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AGENDA
SPECIAL FORMAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING
July 2, 1997 - 7:00 a.m.
Civic Center
ITEM NO. 1.
CALL TO ORDER.
ROLL CALL.
ITEM NO. 2.
CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
OR AMENDED.
PRESENTED
Approval of Official Council Actions of the special meetings of
June 16 and 18 as published, subject to corrections, as recommended
by the City Clerk.
Minutes of Boards and Commissions.
(1)
(2)
(3)
(4)
(5)
(6)
(7)
Senior Center Commission - May 21
Iowa City Public Library Board of Trustees - May 22
Iowa City Airport Commission - April 17
Iowa City Airport Commission - May 8
Iowa City Planning and Zoning Commission - June 5
Broadband Telecommunications Commission May 12
Recommendation to Council: The City Council not accept a
franchise modification proposed by TCI, which was to reduce
TCI's local office hours on Saturday and add staffing assistance
to cover Mondays.
Design Review Committee - June 16
Recommendations to Council:
Reassess the location for the Transit Interchange Facility due to
design impact and safety concerns of the facility.
Disapproval of the Design for the Transit Interchange Facility.
Projecting signs continue to be prohibited.
If projected signs are permitted, the Committee supports staff
recommendation with the following modifications:
· the width (thickness) of projecting signs be no wider than
four. inches and _~
· projecting signs~illuminated
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Permit Motions and Resolutions as Recommended by the City Clerk.
(1) Consider a motion approving an Outdoor Service Area for HMDS,
,~nc., dba S,ohQ~s 1208 Highland Court.
(~orrespondenc~
(1)
(2)
(New)
Loretta Kantor - Hickory Hill Park
William Talman Lexington Avenue [response from Marcia
Klingaman included]
(3) Vickie Abrahamson - Airport [response from Ron O'Neil included]
(4) Robert Willis - economic development
(5) Kathryn Wallace- Senior Center
(6) Alice Kintz - Senior Center
(7) William Fischer - noise
(8) Austin Winniford- skateboarding
(9) Terry Lee and Janiece Thein - temporary sidewalk
(10) Lorna Dykstra - temporary sidewalk
(11) JCCOG Traffic Engineering Planner:
(a) Designation of One Additional Metered Space on the South
Side of 300 College Street
(12) Civil Service Commission submitting certified lists of applicants
for the following position(s):
(a) Kennel Assistant
(b) Community Service Officer
e. Applications for Use of City Streets or Public Grounds. (all approved)
(1) Glenn Ehrstine (Summit Apartment Coop Fiftieth Anniversary
Celebration) - June 29
(2) Casey Hayse (Evert Conner Rights and Resources Center
Seventh Anniversary of Americans with Disabilities Act
Celebration March) - July 26.
f. Applications for Use of City Plaza. (all approved)
(1) Jeff Pitzen (Ambulatory Vending of tapes) - 1997.
(2) Daryl Woodson (The Sanctuary's 25th Anniversary Concert)
July 5
END OF CONSENT CALENDAR.
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING ON PLANS,
SPECIFICATIONS, FORM OF CONTRACT, AND ESTIMATE OF COST FOR THE
CONSTRUCTION OF THE IOWA CITY CIVIC CENTER FRONT ENTRANCE
RENOVATION PROJECT, DIRECTING CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH NOTICE OF SAID
HEARING, AND DIRECTING THE CITY ENGINEER TO PLACE SAID PLANS ON
FILE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION.
COMMENT: This project includes the replacement of cracked ,and crumbling concrete
steps and sidewalk, replacement of splintering wood benches, replacement of non-ADA
compliant handrails and curb ramp, and replacement of planter at the Civic Center front
entrance. The architect's opinion of probable construction cost is $43,000 with funding
from the General Fund of Government Buildings Maintenance.
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ITEM NO. 3.
ITEM NO. 4.
City of Iowa City
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE DESIGN PLANS FOR
PHASE I THE RAISED-PLATFORM AND RAMP ADJACENT TO TACO
BELL.
Comment: On June 3, the City Council approved the design plans for the
exterior alterations to Suite 160, Old Capitol Mall (Taco Bell), subject to
the future review and approval of the raised plaza area adjacent to the
Taco Bell project. The architectural firm of FRCH has submitted an
application on behalf of Heitman Retail Property for approval of the design
plans for the raised platform and ramp adjacent to Taco Bell. The Design
Review Committee will review this application at its June 30 meeting.
Action:
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION FINDING IT NECESSITY TO INSTITUTE
EMERGENCY PROCEEDINGS FOR REPLACEMENT OF THE LIBRARY
ROOF AND AWARDING CONTRACT AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO
SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST CONTRACT FOR
REPLACEMENT OF THE LIBRARY ROOF,
Comment: The recent hail storm caused significant damage to the Library
roof. Although the City had planned to replace the roof next year, the damage
caused by the hail storm necessitates that the roof be replaced immediately.
The delay of a public letting could result in serious loss or injury to the Library
and its patrons. State law provides that a city may avoid the public bid-letting
procedures if the delay of advertising and a public letting might cause serious
loss or injury to the city. Darrell L. Smith, a registered professional engineer,
has certified that emergency repairs are required for the Library roof.
The City received a bid from T & K Roofing of Ely, Iowa in the amount of
$212,729. City staff find this bid to be reasonable. T & K Roofing should be
able to start work by Monday, July 7, 1997.
This resolution finds it necessary to institute emergency proceedings for
replacement of the Library roof and authorizes the Mayor to sign and the City
Clerk to attest a contract with .T & K Roofing.
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ITEM NO. 3 CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE DESIGN PLANS FOR
PHASE 1 THE RAISED-PLATFORM AND RAMP ADJACENT TO THE TACO
BELL.
Nov/Moved by Thornberry, seconded by Vanderhoef. Who is here on behalf of the
Committee?
Karr/You also have a handout in front of you.
Nov/Okay.
David Schoon/The Committee met on Monday afternoon and recommended approval of
the design plan as presented. You have a copy of the plan in your packet. If you
have any questions, I would be happy to address those.
Vanderhoef/David, are they talking about putting the tables out for outdoor service area?
Schoon/At this time, I don't know if that is Taco Bell's plan to actually put tables out
there or not. If they do put tables on this raised platform area, that is on private
property. So it would not be required to meet the sidewalk cafe regulations and if
they served alcohol, it would then need to meet the outdoor service area
regulations.
Vanderhoef/Okay. Originally on their first plan, they had shown those drawn in but
hadn't really addressed it and as I look at this plan, I don't see how that would
work. Have you measured it out to see if that is a possibility?
Schoon/They have talked about it as a possibility. Some of the store fronts, or I shouldn't
say- Part of the building now along Clinton Street, if they do move ahead with
this facade renovation, they could move that back to where the present fire
hallway is which would give them some additional space which may mean they
would be able to work in some tables out there.
Vanderhoef/Okay but we are not approving anything like that at this time?
Schoon/No.
Vanderhoef/I just want to be clear that we are not.
Schoon/If they do decide to put tables out there, it would not require council approval.
Vanderhoef/Okay.
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Kubby/Would they have to have enough room so that door could remain accessible to
people with disabilities?
Schoon/Yes.
Kubby/So if there is not enough space, that is-
Vanderhoeff That is what it appears but I don't know that.
Kubby/So in approving this, are we, indeed, saying this design is acceptable all the way
down the street?
Schoon/No, you are just approving Phase 1 of the raised-platform area which is figure 3
in the plans you have.
Nov/And this covers the area from the eastside entrance to the comer on Washington
Street?
Schoon/What you are approving does not. It is just approving Phase 1 which is in figure
3 of the plans you have which is about 100 feet of the Taco Bell entrance.
Norton/The railing design might be similar, I take it or something like that.
Schoon/Yes. The idea is that it would be consistent along-
Norton/So there is some sense in which we are placing a general concept?
Schoon/Correct. If they continue this general theme all the way down to Washington
Street, one would assume the council would approve it.
Kubby/Are they- We have this picture that has the Mall looking totally different on that
side. Is this similar to what they have envisioned for what that side of the Mall
will be like?
Schoon/The architect stressed that this is their first attempt at a design to present to
Heitman Properties. Heitman Properties hasn't approved this yet as their design
for the facade renovation.
Kubby/But they are going to do something?
Schoon/Their plan is to do something.
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Norton/I am not quite sure how much they are into the r.o.w. actually. That first
paragraph of the letter seems to me to be a little hard to understand.
Schoon/It will not be in the r.o.w. at all.
Thomberry/I went to Heitman and saw their several pictures in color and different
angles. It looks really kind of nice as opposed to the big blank windows.
Norton/It is certainly a change. I agree.
Nov/Okay, any further discussion? Roll call- (yes). We have approved this.
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ITEM NO. 4 CONSIDER A RESOLUTION FINDING IT NECESSARY TO
INSTITUTE EMERGENCY PROCEEDINGS FOR REPLACEMENT OF THE
LIBRARY ROOF AND AWARDING CONTRACT AND AUTHORIZING THE
MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST CONTRACT FOR
REPLACEMENT OF THE LIBRARY ROOF.
Nov/We need a motion. Moved by Kubby, seconded by Norton. Now, we have an
explanation from Dennis Mitchell, Assistant City Attorney.
Mitchell/As set out in the comment there, we sustained some serious damage to the
library roof as a result of the recent hailstorm. This resolution allows us to get in
there to have somebody replace the rood as soon as possible. I do also have- If
you have any questions regarding this, I can answer those as best I can. Also Jim
Schoenfelder and Susan Craig are here also.
Kubby/We got information- Well, we really didn't get any information except what the
cost is from the one company and then we were contacted by another one saying
that they were the original roof contractor and they have a proposal that is less
than half the cost. What's up? I mean, are they both technically appropriate
strategies for repairing the roof for what our purposes are?
Mitchell/Jim may be able to answer that a little better than I can. But they are two
different styles of roofs and the style that- It is my understanding on like the Rec.
Center Project and Civic Center Project our consultant, Shive Hattery and Van
Winkle-Jacob, those two particular cases, had recommend that we go with that
type of roof. What has been proposed for the library roof is the same type of roof
that we have on the Rec. Center and that is why T & K Roofing was the low
bidder on both of those projects. The bid amount that they bid is actually less per
square foot than what we paid on those two projects.
Kubby/So we are trying to get away from the flat roof?.
Mitchell/Well, I don't think it is a (can't hear-all talking). I think it- Well, I should
probably get Jim up here to explain it.
Nov/Let's get an explanation.
Jim Schoenfelder/The two types of roofs that we are talking about are different
proposals. One that T & K proposed is what is called a modified bituminous type
of roof. It is, and I am not a roofing expert. We usually have consultants come in
and do this but I am trying to explain the best I know about the roofing system. To
give you an idea, it is more on the order of the old build up type of roof with a lot
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of different- It is a different application but it is a bituminous type of material.
The material that is on the-
Kubby/What does that mean?
Schoenfelder/It is a tar, using felt.
Kubby/I like those three letter words.
Schoenfelder/The existing roof that is on the library now is what is called a single ply,
generic term of single ply, roofing which is a thick plastic sheet over the top of the
roof. That is the roof membrane itself. That particular roof is what is called a
loosely laid which means it is not adhered to the insulation of roof below but it is
held down by the rock that is put on top of it. So they are completely different
types of systems and the last three major roofing replacements that we have done
here, our consultants have recommended and staff has gone along with the
modified bituminous type because it appears to hold up much better to traffic on
the roof and in all these cases we have mechanical equipment on the roof and we
have people walking to and from that equipment on the roof and the single-plys
do not seem to hold up as well from that traffic because they appear to puncture.
And we suffer damage on that the single-ply much easier than we do on the
bituminous.
Norton/Jim, in the original Rec. Center and I have made this comment having been
around here loath these many years and have seen all the roofs on the schools
replaced. The Rec. Center, we spent all kinds of money to replace the Rec. Center
roof, this roof. You know, I said somebody had the caveman had it right to start
with and we have messed it up since then roofwise. But the build up roof was the
first roof, wasn't it, on the Rec. Center? Was that a build up roof?.
Schoenfelder/On the Rec. Center, yes.
Norton/That gave us trouble in the early days?
Schoenfelder/I don't know the history on that roof.
Norton/I am just curious. This change, did we go from a build up to this membrane roof
and now back to the modified build up?
Schoenfelder/Not on the Rec. Center, no. I think the Rec. Center has always been a build
up roof and then we went ahead and replaced the entire roof with a modified
system which is slightly different.
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Norton/Is the membrane system bound to shrink and get brittle and one thing or another?
Schoenfelder/Well, we have got three membrane roofs that I know of or different types
of membrane roofs. We have one on the Senior Center which is a hypelon, I think
it is a CSPD and those are chemical names for what is up there. We have one on
this roof which is, I think, it is maybe EPDM or some type of modified rubber
system. And we have got the one on the library, it is PVC and we have got
another PVC that is on the Streets and Sanitation building. Those are the only two
buildings that we have experienced a shrinkage on which has been considerable. I
think the library roof once already has been slit around the edge and a two foot
piece installed all the way around because it was shrinking back from the edge of
the roof, actually tearing the flashing off the roof and that was done, I believe in
1990 or so and it has already shrunk up again as much to start and I have some
photographs here. If you want to see them, I can pass them around. It is already
pulled back on the roof again and that is partially part of the problem. The age of
that roof, it is starting to deteriorate. We had the same problem on Streets and
Sanitation where the roofing literally tore the side of the building, tore the fascia
off it stretched so hard. So those particular types we have had bad experience with
shrinkage.
Lehman/What is the life of a built up roof?.
Schoenfelder/The warranty that we are getting is ten years but typically 15-20 years
without major problem.
Lehman/I guess I ask that because frankly I have a little problem with the proposal. We
are talking about changing the style of the roof completely and I realize and I
don't question for a moment that this is an emergency sort of situation. It needs to
be done pronto. But we have one bid for a membrane roof which has lasted 18
years. It has lasted 18 years, admittedly, with some difficulties. But it is 18 years
and the proposal that they have given us is a 15 year warranty. Now the
bituminous or built up roof you say has a ten year warranty, costs over twice as
much money. I have a little problem with that.
Nov/I also share your concerns. However, when they did an inspection damage for hail,
the other roofs had no damage at all.
Lehman/I don't think that is relevant.
Thomberry/Naomi, I have been with Burger King for 27 years and we have always had
flat roofs and I have been in Oklahoma, Colorado and Iowa. I have always had the
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membrane type roof. You are correct in saying there is some shrinkage, especially
when it comes up to meet the HVAC and the sides. But this is over a period of
time and the weather has a lot of do with it, especially when it is not covered well
with rock. There are now different type of membrane that you can put on
walkways on a- I call it a rubber roof or a slopped roof. A slope one is where they
put it on with a mop and the hot tar. But I would like- With the University using
the membrane roof or rubber roof or whatever the material is, why did they go
with that instead of the slop roof, tar type roof?. Do you have any idea?
Schoenfelder/I don't have any idea, maybe the particular circumstance of that.
Thornberry/Do you know, the two new HyVees that are being built in Iowa City. One is
already open and one on First Avenue is not open yet. Do you know what type of-
And they have flat roofs, is that correct, Dennis? They do and I was wondering
what type of roof they were putting on?
Kubby/I haven't seen tar.
Thornberry/I don't know if that roof is sealed and on yet. I imagine it would be. It is
quite a ways-
Nov/Who are you?
Ken Baragary/I am Ken Baragary.
Nov/No, no. Mr. Baragary, we have all of your information. Sit, please.
Thornberry/I have a question if he knows the answer to.
Nov/I know, but we have read all that stuff.
Thomberry/Is it a membrane roof on HyVee?
Nov/Yes, it is.
Thomberry/That is the answer that I wanted and-
Nov/But this is not a p.h. There will be no public comment.
Thomberry/Naomi, all I have is a question.
Kubby/Four council members want to hear from various people to get information.
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Nov/I would like to hear from our people first, please.
Thomberry/That is fine. It is just that I had a question that if he knew the answer to, yes
or no or rubber or slop. I understand that it is a membrane type rubber roof.
Nov/Yes.
Norton/I have another question. Can somebody tell me how this roof repair is going to
relate to the future shape of the library?
Nov/I would like to hear from Susan about how this affects the library before we get into
anything else?
Susan Craig/Well, it only affects the library when it rains and it is been affecting the
library seriously ever since the hailstorm in May. Webave gallons of water that
comes in every time it rains. We have a lot of duct tape right now holding major
pieces of roof together and if there is a major thunderstorm when the library is not
open, I or the building manager goes down there and gets the buckets out. People
are getting sick because there is so much mildew in the building. The ceiling is
being- You know, we are losing ceiling tiles fight and left. It is a major hazard.
We have plastic over certain parts of the bookstacks that if it might rain, people
are instructed to let it down at night. Everybody knows where the buckets are. The
Children's Librarian asked if we could drape the whole children's room.
Thomberry/Susan, what you are after basically is a dry roof. Is a roof that is going to
keep the library-
Craig/I want a roof that is dry that will keep the library contents safe and I want it done
ASAP.
Thomberry/I have got the same thing and I have got buckets until I got my roof fixed
because I did get some hail damage also. A lot of other things damaged, too. What
you are after basically is a roof that is going to keep your library dry. Do you have
a choice as to what type of roof that you want?
Craig/
I turned to the city experts and you have paid for engineering studies that show
that the type of roof that was placed on the Rec. Center was the best kind of roof
to get and you paid good money for those studies. I assumed that they were
correct and that is the proposal that we went with. We have dealt with T & K.
They did the roof repair which was just three years ago in 1990 and did
satisfactory work. They guaranteed it for two years and it met its guarantee. The
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amount of money that they ask for in this proposal was less than we had put in the
CIP for this year for roof replacement. It all seemed reasonable.
Kubby/Does it affect if we ever get an expanded library issue on the ballot and it passes?
Does it affect what happens to that roof line?
Craig/There are so many options right now about how the roof line would change that I
don't know.
Norton/That was my question. You are not sure how it will relate to the future shape of
it?
Vanderhoef/What kind of mechanicals are up there that take traffic back and forth?
Craig/
It is not just mechanicals. We have a fire exit that goes across the roof and we do
have a lot of ballast rock ballested on the roof now. But we have all- There are
four air conditioning units up there that take traffic and it has considerable traffic
the last two summers because as we repaired the air conditioner. And then the
routine maintenance, I think, is quarterly. The fire exit, two fire exits off of the
second floor go across the roof and then down the stairs between the Old Penney's
building and the library. So we go out there and shovel in the winter time, shovel
the fire exits. We don't shovel it if it is an inch of snow but if it is 6 inches or 12
inches we do.
Lehman/These are typically not used?
Craig/They are typically not used but we are required to maintain them to go out there.
Lehman/I know that. Literally there is no traffic on those unless there is a fire.
Craig/That is correct. We are maintaining them.
Thomberry/We maintain the HVAC.
Lehman/I have got six of those units on my roof. We have them serviced twice a year.
Thornberry/I change my filters on those things monthly but we now have a walkway
plan that we can get to everything we need to get to and this can be a raised
walkway even on a membrane roof.
Kubby/I would be interested in looking.
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Thornberry/I will also attempt to understand, not being an expert, just being around them
a lot. It is not just rubber laid down with rocks put on it. It is also sealed on the
side so that it goes up so that water cannot get down the side. It is not just thrown
on there and put rock on it.
Nov/The attachment was not done originally. It could be done with an attached roof next
time. The original one was not-
Thomberry/I am sure it was. It was attached to the flashings and anything that goes up.
Nov/Yeah but not attached all the way.
Norton/I think this is a really tough one. I don't see how we can become roofing experts
precisely here. It seems to me if we got that nickel advice that says let's go with
the-
Thornberry/Well, with a 15 year warranty on this thing and the last roof had a 15 year
warranty and 17 years out they had a problem with it and they came back and did
it under warranty even though it was out of warranty.
Norton/Do we actually know the money difference, Dean, here? For example, we have
got an open piece in this one expression, don't we?
Thomberry/Pardon?
Norton/We have an open part of the bid, don't we? We don't know the difference in
price we are talking about here either, do we really?
Thornberry/I think so.
Norton/I didn't think we did.
Nov/No, there is an open part.
Kubby/If we believe and our folks can tell us that both strategies are responsible
technical strategies. Looking at money, especially less than half the cost is a
response- We should be open to looking and it may have to go up a little bit if we
want walkways which would be prudent.
Thornberry/I do, too. And if you get one or two or three engineering firms that say that
have better experience with one than another, we can also get two, three, four the
other way because we can buy experts.
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Lehman/Well, I have a question, Susan. I don't know if this is for you or not. Apparently
the Van Winkle-Jacob firm inspected the roof and there is no doubt in my mind
that their inspection report is probably 100% right.
Craig/You can come and man the buckets if you think there is not a problem.
Thornberry/We are not saying there is not a problem.
Lehman/Well, no. We got the report. I don't think there is any question we need that
roof. I think we probably all agree with that. As part of that report, there is loss
prevention data bulletin, dated April 1995, relative to PVC or the membrane
roofs. Did Darrell Smith, the person who did the inspection, has he seen the two
proposals that the city has, the one for bituminous and the one for the membrane
roo~
Craig/I can't say. I believe that all he did was deliver a judgment on the condition of the
roof.
Nov/He said it is an emergency, that is all.
Lehman/Yeah and I am sure that is correct. I guess I have a real tough time with, you
know, a project that is over twice the amount of money that gives less guarantee
and I guess if this gentleman tells us that we need the roof and need it
immediately, he gives us this data that is, I think, maybe somewhat out of date.
But he does gives us data relative to membrane roofs. I guess I would like to have
known how he would compare the two proposals. It seems to me that one is
replacing the present membrane while maintaining the underlayment, the
insulation, whatever. The other is tearing everything off down to- I don't know if
you have rafters on buildings like that. Totally replacing everything and then
putting a bituminous surface on it. One is a totally new roof. One is replacing
what would appear to be a replaceable part and both of them give rather
substantial warranty. The real difference being one is over twice as much money
as the other.
Schoenfelder/Just to answer a couple of questions. Darrell Smith is the person that is
doing the consulting and design of the roof that we are going to be putting on the
Civic Center. We do have a single-ply roof and he is strongly recommending that
we go to the modified bituminous roof. The reasons are it doesn't hold up as well
with the traffic and we have a lot of equipment up here also. We had him, because
he was doing work for us now, go over and do the look on the library roof. He
didn't make any recommendations one way or the other but it is my assumption
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that if he is doing the roof for us here and strongly recommending we go to the
modified, he would recommend that also there. I can't speak for him. Another
factor on these proposals is on the one proposal from D.C. Taylor that appears to
be half the cost, there is a line item there that says if they find damaged insulation
they will replace that on time and materials. We don't know, at this time, how
much damage there is, if any, to the insulation. On this roof, for example, we have
the time to do the survey. That is what Darrell Smith is doing. he took four
samples. He found because over the years, even though we have a good guarantee
on this roof, that all the minor leaks that we have had have soaked the insulation
and have destroyed the insulation. We have to go in and replace all of that. We
don't know if that is the case over there. With the T & K Proposal, that gets
replaced anyway. That is in the cost.
Nov/I have to assume that if the library has water and the library has mildew inside, it is
difficult to say that the insulation doesn't have it.
Baker/Of course it doesn't have to be the whole thing.
Nov/If you are going to say half of it is damaged, I would recommend replacing the
whole thing. What risk the other half?.
Schoenfelder/Also there was nothing on the D.C. Taylor proposal about replacing any
cap flashing that might have been tom or deformed by the material pulling away.
Maybe that has already been repaired. I don't know but that is taken care of in the
T & K proposal. Also on warranties. The warranty is to repair and fix the roof.
But if you have damage inside the roof, we are left repairing that and I am just
telling you experience. I am not telling you technical data. On the roof, our
experience here in this building, for example, has been we have had a lot of minor
leaks. They were easily fixed. The people come out and fix them right away,
granted. But once you notice the leak, the damage is done. We had a computer
system here, some of the boards on that were destroyed. It took out HVAC system
down for a while. We had to bear the cost of getting that fixed. That was from a
minor leak that was done from some damage of somebody walking around the
roof. That is not to say it is not going to happen with another type of roof but it
happens more frequently on these. On the Senior Center, for example, we went up
and had to tear the roof 8 foot away from the sides. That is a single-ply roof, a
different type of roof. A single-ply but a single-ply. All the insulation was
damaged there. We pulled that out, put that roof back. The roofing contractor was
on the job with the general contractor. They took all the precautions they could to
keep that roof from being damaged. They have walking paths up there. When they
left the job for two months, we continued to have leaks and in that period of time,
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the number that sticks in my mind of 73 small holes from that process. That is the
experience we have had.
Kubby/In my mind I am also weighing- I mean it is a risk either way because we don't
know what is going to happen if the library issue gets passed, a multi-purpose
building gets passed. We don't know what is going to happen to that roof. What
does it look like to spend $212- to have it tom off and modified in some way in
the short term? And is that worth the risk of the flat roof with the guarantee? I
don't know. Those are the kinds of things I am weighing in my mind.
Craig/
I don't know. I can't answer your question, Karen. But that is the money that you
had budgeted this year to replace the roof. So, I mean, we could have gone
through the public bidding process and ended up spending that much money or
more. I mean-
Kubby/Right, I understand that it is budgeted but it is still dollars. It is still General Fund
dollars.
Nov/Now, I have a question on the public bidding process. If we had written
specifications for a public bidding process, would we have specified the two layer
and tar system, the built up system?
Kubby/Sounds like it.
Nov/That is what I am-
Schoenfelder/The only thing I can say is we would have brought in the roofing
consultant as we do on all of our other projects. The last three times we have done
it, they have recommended that. And we have used different consultants. We have
had Shive Hattery on the Rec. Center. Then Van Winkle-Jacob on this particular
building.
Vanderhoef/Can you tell me if there is any difference, for instance, if we did complete
that second floor on the library about tying into you? The membrane roof versus
the two stage. Any difference?
Schoenfelder/I don't know that there would be.
Vanderhoef/Additional cost to go through that process?
Schoenfelder/Whatever material you chose at this stage of design, you would have to tie
into that material more likely with the same material.
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Nov/No, we are not saying that. At least I don't think so. If you are going to add
upwards, on top of a roof, if there a difference based on the type of roof you are
adding upwards? If you are going to put another story on? If you are going to put
another story on, is there an advantage?
Craig/We are not completing the second floor. You would raise a lower piece of the roof
up to the level of the higher roof and then you would have one roof in which this
one is easier to-
Vanderhoef/Tie into and be leakproof and all of that kind of thing.
Norton/Easier to tie into which one?
Kubby/I would like to hear from D. C. Taylor answer that question.
Norton/Which one is easier to fie into if you raised?
Thomberry/Well you can tie into either one.
Nov/They will both answer if you have to hear from them.
Thornberry/If I were a betting man which I do on occasion as you know, Mr. Norton on
the golf course. I would say that any flat roof is going to leak sooner or later,
period.
Nov/Okay, all right. Which roof would be acceptable or not acceptable in terms of
adding an extension to the second floor?
Baragary/Either one. My name is Ken Baragary, I am regional manager olD. C. Taylor
Company and I understand the manner of decorum here and I will restrict my
comments to that question. Either system because you are joining two separate
entities with different movement. There will be an expansion joint or a control
joint. So either system will require about the thing.
Nov/What about the system that will have a floor above it? Does either system work if
you are going to put a second story onto the first floor?
Baragary/You mean come in and completely remodel?
Nov/Just add a floor, another level?
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Thomberry/You got a roof, you got an addition, you got another roof.
Baragary/Okay, you are going to build right up to that other floor. What I have seen
when they have done that is usually build a super structure around it and then
come in with building the trusses up. Again, either system will lend itself to that.
The single-ply that we have proposed will be a little bit easier because it doesn't
require a torch or a tar kettle. Workman can easily patch that with membrane.
Kubby/Thank you.
Jim Agne/With T & K Roof. It appears the major issues with council are the warranty
and the cost. Would that be correct?
Audience/(Can't hear).
Nov/We are to answer that question, yes.
Agne/What was the question again about raising? If you are going to build another roof
over the existing roof, is that the question? Well, no matter what roof is on the
bottom, you are going to have to tear it off and build a new super structure on top
of it and then put a new roof on a the new addition. Whether it is a single-ply,
whether it is a modified , neither are easier or harder to tear off and
replace. It is really not an issue. The bottom roof is going to have to be torn off.
Nov/Okay, would you sign your name, please. Karen, do you have any other questions
along that line?
Kubby/No but I guess one of my responses is whether or not an expanded facility
happens, you have kind of indicated that we would at a minimum do the
expansion.
Nov/If the other one passes, yes.
Baker/Even if the other one doesn't pass.
Norton/Either way. In other words, the cheaper alternative may look better given the fact
that in either case, there is a relatively short life for this enterprise.
Kubby/And in between the time we can, if we want to make a policy decision about what
kind of roof the library should have we can do so. But it seems prudent that if we
are headed in a direction that there is going to be that added square footage no
matter what happens.
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Thomberry/Can we get into the question of timing? Do you have a question?
Atkins/I have several questions.
Thomberry/I do, too. As far as timing is concerned, I think we need to get this thing done
today. It is imperative that we get- Are either proposals quicker? I mean,
timewise?
Kubby/We know T & K. They can start July 7, that is soon.
Norton/I want to reiterate before Steve comments that we are not sure about the actual
cost on the two proposals because we don't have two quite equivalent proposals.
One of them has got an open ended feature in it. I am concerned about that. Go
ahead, Steve.
Vanderhoef/I guess I would really like to ask what the cost might be to replace all of the
insulation if that is what they find needs to be done and work that in.
Kubby/The worse case scenario.
Vanderhoef/The worst case scenario.
Nov/That was $16 a square foot. Jim, do you know how many square feet we have?
Schoenfelder/I want to talk or answer one thing about insulation on the roof. With the T
& K proposal and with their add alternate on there, they would be replacing all of
the insulation which would bring the insulation value of that roof to about a R20-
23. The current code requires an R21. If we are putting a membrane over the
existing roof, that was designed to the older standard. I am not sure what is up
there because I haven't had time to evaluate it. It might be an R13-15 which
wouldn't meet the current code. That would be another factor.
Kubby/Do you have in the proposal what that cost is just for the insulation because let's
say that is going to be equivalent?
Schoenfelder/I think the add alternate for the tapered added insulation was $29,000. In
the neighborhood of $29,000 for the entire roofi
Thornberry/Could we assume then that D.C. Taylor would be spending the same amount
for insulation of necessary and it looks like it is going to be necessary?
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Nov/They gave us a per square-
Schoenfelder/I don't know that it is necessary. It is just a consideration.
Vanderhoef/This would appear then to be-
Thornberry/Steve-
Atkins/My turn yet? Thank goodness. I have a half dozen questions. I would caution the
council about negotiating proposals with the audience and I think that is what we
are doing and it is only going to lead to trouble. Have we clearly established the
fact that we an emergency? And I think that as much as we hate it, everything we
are arguing about is the strength of the public bidding process. You write a tight
spec, you put it out, you let them bid, you open them up and answer that. So we
do, Susan, have an emergency. We got to get it fixed right away. Okay, I think
that is clear. Secondly, we are discussing a change in product. One is different
from the other. Jim or Susan, how many proposals did we get besides T & K for
the double? Just one?
Craig/(Can't hear).
Atkins/I just wanted to know that. For that proposal, we only received the one and that is
not speaking ill of that particular proposal. We are- They appear to be- Both
appear to be reasonable responsible technical strategies. But we are adding in
expanded facilities, all sorts of elements to this process. I think it is going to make
it that much more confusing. We have our professional engineers who have made
a recommendation. I think the recommendation is what is up in front of you fight
now. Because of additional information and a possible lower cost product, if that
is the direction you want to go, I think that you simply have to pull back, send the
staff back out again, and we have to get proposals on this different product so that
you can compare them. That would allow T & K also an opportunity to put a
proposal together. But that extends the problem, the emergency issue.
Kubby/Why do you recommend that process? We didn't use that process-
Atkins/I am not recommending it. I am recommending what we have in front of you
right now is the T & K proposal.
Kubby/Right but if we want to look at something that looks more cost effective,
especially because we know it is going to be taken off and have to be replaced in
three years.
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Atkins/We don't know that.
Kubby/People have indicated that there is going to be expansion at the current site
whether or not a multi- purpose referendum gets on the ballot and passes.
Atkins/That is a policy decision you all have to make. I am not arguing with you Karen.
Nov/There has not been a decision. There has been a discussion.
Kubby/But it has been a consistent discussion and commitment to the library.
Atkins/My concern is before you award this proposal, if you are not satisfied then you
send us back out and we will put together a proposal on a different product and let
you compare the numbers. But the bottomline is that messes up the emergency
process.
Norton/A different product, the modified tar?
Atkins/I don't know. I would ask Jim to say ask the consultant to put together some
specifications so we could get a proposal together. What we want someone to bid,
what will it cost to replace that insulation. I want those-
Kubby/I understand that but you were suggesting that we go and do a semi-competitive
thing which we didn't do that originally when the staff too the recommendation
the consultant to do this other roof. We went to a company that we have worked
with before, that we have worked well with before to say give us a price, we need
to move forward. Why wouldn't we use that same process if we chose a different
kind of roof to compare two different kinds of roofs?
Atkins/As long as they get a legitimate number on the two different products.
Dilkes/Karen, I think he is also suggesting that we have control of the specifications, not
a company coming to us with a certain set of specifications and telling us what
that prices is going to be.
Nov/My concern is that if we do a set of specifications and we start comparing the
prices, we should have competitive bidding on both styles and not just compare
the two people-
Atkins/That is fine, Naomi, that simply-
Kubby/No, we need to move faster than that.
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Atkins/I think you need to move faster.
Nov/I think we are already dealing in the council designing a roof and that is not the best
idea.
Arkins/I don't think there is any doubt about that.
Kubby/But it doesn't have to be what the staff recommended and do it as immediate as
Monday and do the competitive bidding process. There is a lot of ground in
between there.
Atkins/I think Karen is correct. There is ground. It is just the risk issue-
Kubby/We can take a short term break. I mean we are talking about a lot of money. Even
though it is already budgeted, it is still money. I believe that council has
consistently talked about adding that space onto the library. It is going to have to
get torn off. I want to do it- I want to protect the library materials and keep the
integrity of the collection. I want to do it fast but I want to do is cost effectively.
Thomberry/Can't argue with that. In the interim, where are we going to get 123 people
with umbrellas to stand up on that roof?. We have to get going.
Atkins/The emergency is today and the emergency will be tomorrow and the next day
and the next day.
Thomberry/It has been since the hailstorm but we don't need any more damage than we
already got.
Atkins/The emergency has not changed. It is the public award process is what it is. If we
simply- If it were a smaller contract, I would have authorized something, go fix it.
Nov/Okay, is this Mr. Blando?
Edward Blando/I think on behalf of these gentlemen here who are all roofing contractors
and some of whom are Iowa City-Johnson County residents, they have, I think,
allowed me or given me the authority to propose to you an alternative plan which
would eliminate the emergency and that is a couple of these gentlemen make an
attempt yesterday to look at the roof, go up on the roof and to view it and give an
idea of that the extent of the problem is. They were not allowed to go on the roof
itself. But they did go to an adjoining building and overlook the roof. They also
have talked to Mr. Smith who is the consultant. It is their information that there
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may be somewhere 50 -70 small holes in the roof. Their best estimate at this time
is that the emergency could be eliminated with an expenditure of less than $2500
and that would give this council time to consider alternatives, time to go through
the bidding process. To go into a project of this magnitude without competitive
bidding is, I think, a disservice to this council and to the tax payers of Iowa City
and Johnson County. To say that to allow this to go ahead with a single estimate,
actually you don't even have a bid. You have got an estimate upon which you
propose to offer a contract. An emergency would allow you to take, to eliminate
some of their bidding time, notice and so forth. But it seems to me a great
disservice to eliminate competitive bidding to say we are not going to give you 40
days but here is the specifications. Can you guys come in and give us a bid within
a week? That didn't happen. That should have happened. That is the service to
your tax payer. Now, like I said, we have people here who for less than $2500
can- Let me just finish. Can eliminate your emergency and take care of it.
Nov/We understand.
Blando/They are also here and are authorizing me to say that as tax payers and concerned
citizens, they are willing to donate up to 50 hours of labor to eliminate the
emergency to take of this. I think it is a, like I said, certainly by declaration, you
can not create a real emergency and that is what I think you are trying to do and I
think when you have an alternative which is better than the plan, I think you
would be foolish not to take it.
Nov/Thank you. Does the council want to do a one week bidding process?
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Craig/(Can't hear).
Thomberry/That is the goal right now and to put in a temporary repair while some bids
come in to me sounds pretty reasonable.
Atkins/Well, we are into a debate just when an emergency is not an emergency.
Nov/We know this is an emergency. This is not a debate.
Atkins/Thank you.
Kubby/I would like to hear from Larry. What are you thinking about? I know it is early.
Baker/When I got this job years ago, I didn't know I would learn so much about sewer.
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Norton/Now about roof, right.
Craig/(Can't hear).
Nov/I can remember the days when sewer was pronounced sorer.
Thomberry/That is a long time ago.
Nov/That was a long time ago.
Baker/Until the last gentleman got up I was totally confused. We can stop the leak
immediately, give us a week or two week, whatever to put a proposal together
based upon clear specs.
Arkins/We do not know whether you can stop the leaking immediately. This is a recent
proposal. If you are saying- If the council is saying you want to go back and you
wish to take the risk associated with extending the emergency, that can be done.
Susan is going to have to spend a couple of more nights with buckets. I mean that
is kind of the bottomline of the thing.
Thornberry/Only if it rains.
Atkins/Only if it rains.
Norton/It is going to rain.
Atkins/If you want more proposals and you want a different product and you wish to see
those kinds of things done, declare it so and we will buy Susan some buckets and
we will get it done for you and we can get it done in a reasonable and timely
fashion. It will require a quick turn around with respect to contractors.
Nov/How do you feel and also Dennis, how do you feel about the legality of accepting
volunteers hours for repairs?
Mitchell/I think that is-
Kubby/Community service.
Atkins/Personally, I don't think you should do that. I think that if you want some quick
repairs, we can go out and get a contractor, get up, take care of the spots for
$2500, whatever the number is and get it done. The big issue is how we are going
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to handle this thing, what kind of product you wish to see put on there given all
the other implications that you have laid out expanding the library, not expanding
the library, going up, going out.
Dilkes/With all respect to Mr. Blando, I think it is really not a good idea to accept
representations that is going to cost $2500 to get on this roof to repair it and stop
the water when we have got a staff that has been looking at this and trying to
figure out this problem and hasn't come to that conclusion. And then we are going
to walk away from here and it is going to take probably a good amount of time to
put this together.
Atkins/I want Darrell, our consulting engineer, to make that call.
Dilkes/Exactly.
Atkins/I would rather have him do that.
Nov/I agree.
Mitchell/One thing I should point out. I think it is going to take a lot longer than a couple
of weeks, though, if we go back out and try and get some more bids because we
are going to have to hire Darrell to come up with the specifications for-
Apparently maybe even two different styles of roofs and compare these things.
So, because of the time frame we were working under, that is part of the reason it
didn't happen. So, if you are going to do that, maybe Susan has got something to
add on this but you know, I think we might be better off having somebody make
some temporary repairs and then actually go through the bidding process. I am
just concerned that if we take too long that, you know, we might have a lot more
damage to the library than what it is going to cost to repair it.
Craig/The two roofing contractors that have been on the roof, T & K and D. C. Taylor
both said it would take tens of thousands of dollars to repair the roof. It was at that
time that we decided since we knew we needed a new roof and we had the money
in the budget for a new roof, we should not waste the repair money, we should
proceed as quickly as possible to replace the roof. I don't know if you can fix it
for $2500. I don't know anything about roofs except I don't want mine to leak.
But it just- I went in there catching the drips that are all over the building and I
can't believe you could do it for $2500. And I would also hesitate to have
volunteers up on my roof.
Thomberry/Susan, just a quick question. Ira roofer came and said you have some roof
problems, could I take a peek and see what the damages are for a quick repair and
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it is an emergency exit also and you have HVAC up there, why wouldn't you let
somebody up there to look?
Craig/I was not here yesterday. I left town Friday morning, 6:00, for a conference and I
got home last night at 11:00. So I am coming into this pretty cold. So, I probably
would have let them.
Lehman/I guess I am not happier with this than the rest of us are but I really- I guess I
totally agree there is an emergency. I really hate to see this thing postponed one
more day or even one hour. It has got to be done and you know, as much as I
would like to think that we could temporarily repair that roof and get two weeks
or three weeks or whatever to put the proper bids, I am not at all sure that we can
do that. I think that the report that we have clearly establishes that there is- I hate
the word emergency. But I think it is important that this be done as quickly as
possible and I agree with you, Karen, that because of the potential of changes in
the structure of that building, with an expanded library, I hate to see us put any
more into it than we have to. But at the same time get a roof that is solid, that has
integrity, one that has a guarantee on it from a firm that we are familiar with. I
guess I would prefer to put this out for bid but I am willing, this councilperson is
going to do something and get on with it right now.
Norton/Which method though, Ernie?
Lehman/I am not willing to spend over two times the amount of money for a roof that
may or may not be there three or four years from now, particularly on the lower
portion.
Norton/You want to go back to the membrane?
Lehman/After 19 years. I just put a new roof on my building three years ago and I talked
to a local contractor last night who I- Well, Tom Werderitsch and Tom builds lots
of buildings. He has about equal respect for the two kinds of roofs. He had a real
problem with the disparity in price and thought that for basically the same
warranty, you are going to have a tough time justifying spending that kind of
money for a roof that is warranted for about the same period.
Norton/I share that but how do you deal with the uncertain, unknown portion of that.
Lehman/I think Jim said you are talking maybe $26,000 again to replace it all?
Norton/I don't think that-
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Audience/(Can't hear).
Norton/That is a serious question.
Atkins/Folks, I caution the council you really (can't hear). You are also negotiating with
the audience and I would really be very cautious-
Nov/We are not going to hear from the audience again. We have given them the time that
we have had to given them. We have to move on. Now we are going to either
defer this vote and let the staff recommend something else or we are going to vote
on this particular issue now.
Kubby/I would recommend that we defer this vote. That we have another special
meeting. The point is that within a very short time we come back, we get some
complete numbers for the different style of roof from the company (can't hear)
that we have worked with before. Because it maintains the interest in moving fast
in this emergency and we can compare the final numbers of both styles.
Atkins/And it is not just from D.C. Taylor. There may be other contractors that also
have interest in that same kind of product. It is not T & K and D. C. that are up
here.
Kubby/It is more than- we didn't ask any other roofers besides T & K for the original
one. Why would we-
Atkins/If you are sending us back, let's go back and try to get as much as we can, Karen.
Nov/Let's do what we can. Back to the 14th.
Baker/How much?
Atkins/A couple of weeks.
Nov/The 14th is the next time we are meeting. If we are going to do this, we are going to
do this on the 14th.
Kubby/15th in our formal meeting.
Thornberry/How much are we going to allocate for plastic to cover the library?
Nov/I understand the 15th is a formal meeting but we would have to have it on the work
session for the 14th.
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Thomberry/I understand working in a downpour in the inside of a building and it is not
fun and she has got a lot of property to protect and something has to be done
before it rains next time to eliminate any more damage. Is there anything we can
do in the meantime within the next two weeks?
Atkins/I would assume part of the- I have sufficient authority in my own budgeted
authority to say go get somebody to take a look and get some quick patches up
there. But whether it does any good or not, I don't know.
Thomberry/I don't know either but it is better than nothing because we know what we
have go now and it is a lot of leaks. It is a lot of water every time it rains. So
something has got to be better.
Atkins/We have sufficient authority to take that action on our own without your
approval. That is up to these folks.
Nov/We have been spending about five weeks in terms of putting buckets and plastic
around the library. If we spend another two weeks doing that kind of thing, the
work doesn't come to an end, correct? Now, let's vote.
Craig/(Can't hear).
Atkins/Susan, come to the microphone. You know, this is an emergency, when is it an
emergency? It is a legal term we use to try to proceed with this project. You are
not happy with the cost. You wanted a different product to look at because you are
not happy with the cost. You want a different product. We are going to go back
out. We are going to talk to other contractors. That is not just D.C. Taylor. Four
or five of them sitting right there.
Nov/There has to be an allowance for everybody to put their two cents.
Atkins/To put their two cents in.
Thomberry/I am not saying, Steve, that I have got to have another product. I would like
to look at the two products. They do the tar thing all over. It is just that when
geez, Carver Hawkeye does a membrane and the new HyVees do the membrane,
is it that bad?
Nov/Well, it is a different style of building.
Thomberry/Not really, it is a flat roof.
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Council/(All talking).
Craig/
We have had leaks in the building since the building opened. I mean the roof-
They don't teach it to you in library school but you learn pretty quick. And we
have covered leaks. We have had under the first warranty we did good work with
D. C. Taylor. They came back lots of times and repaired things and fixed things.
We started to have major leaks several years ago. At that time the state of the
building and what we were going to do with it was very uncertain and we spent a
fair amount of money, almost $25,000 getting repairs done where they put that
piece around to make the shrinkage not so tight. This leaking that we have now is
not like the leaking that we have had for the last 18 years. This is a serious
situation. You know, we are putting at jeopardy- I mean, it is full of books which
are paper which-
Kubby/We also have to think about that $100,000 plus. That although budgeted, it is still
a lot of money when it may be the roof may get tom off in a very short period of
time. We have to look at those timing issues and the investment issues while still
protecting the collections.
Thornberry/I would like to make a motion to defer.
Norton/It has already been moved, hasn't it?
Kubby/No, second.
Audience/(All talking).
Nov/No, we are going to clear up the cost issue later. We have a motion to defer. Moved
by Thornberry, seconded by Kubby.
Dilkes/I think you need to defer this to a date certain in the near future. Once you declare
it to be an emergency, it needs to be treated as such.
Thomberry/To the 15th of July, the next available meeting. They have had leaks since
day 1.
Kubby/But it is a different magnitude.
Thornberry/I understand that. I have worked with buckets.
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Norton/May I? I understand that that motion entails the fact that the city can do whatever
they can to head off the current emergency?
Thornberry/That is correct.
Norton/They may have to throw an umbrella over the place.
Atkins/I have sufficient authority to do that.
Norton/A lot of umbrellas.
Nov/It has been moved and seconded that we defer this vote. We have discussed it.
There will be no further discussion. This is a motion. This is it. Do you want to
defer or not defer?
Kubby/I am prepared to vote but there are some other specific directions. We need to
make sure that we all agree to so staff knows what to do between now and the
15th. It may be clear but with us you never know. So it is good to restate it so that
we know what we decided and staff understands.
Nov/We said it. Go ahead and say it again.
Kubby/That we are going to get- We are not putting it out for bid but we are going to
look at this other-
Atkins/We are going to take it as close to the bidding process as we can, forma detailed
proposals in a timely fashion for the 15th. Jim, Dennis, Susan, before you get out
of here, I will have to visit.
Kubby/And in the meantime, the library will allow roofers to get on the roof to look at it
so they can start seeing what the damage it, I assume.
Atkins/We are going to seek other proposals. I think we have to afford an opportunity for
perspective contractors to look at what they are going to have to do. I think that is
an obligation on out part.
Nov/And we are going to allow more than two styles of roof to be proposed if someone
wants to.
Atkins/We will contact Darrell Smith. We will tell him that we would like to look at an
altemative proposal. Both proposals will go out and then a company could bid
both of them if they would like.
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Nov/That is the general idea, thank you. Is there any further discussion?
Thomberry/This is going to include insulation if necessary?
Atkins/My understanding is that the T & K proposal had incorporated the insulation and
what we are hearing, it did not in the other one. It will be clear, Jim is nodding his
head, insulation if necessary, will be replaced at this cost.
Thomberry/Because if we do put on the addition and it has to be redone, the insulation
will still be good as long as it hasn't leaked into the insulation. That can be
reused.
Nov/It will all be there. Any other comments, Steve? Do you understand everything we
have said?
Atkins/Sure.
Nov/Thank you. All in favor, please say aye- (ayes; opposed: Novick, Baker).
Karr/Two opposed?
Nov/I heard two, yes. Okay.
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ITEM NO. 5.
ITEM NO. 6.
ITEM NO. 7.
CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS.
a. Consider a recommendation from the Planning and Zoning Commission
to appoint Lea Supple to the Airport Zoning Commission as a
representative of the Planning and Zoning Commission. Term expires
May 1, 2000.
CONSIDER A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO
DISCUSS STRATEGY WITH COUNSEL IN MATTERS THAT ARE
PRESENTLY IN LITIGATION OR WHERE LITIGATION IS IMMINENT
WHERE ITS DISCLOSURE WOULD BE LIKELY TO PREJUDICE OR
DISADVANTAGE THE POSITION OF THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY IN
THAT LITIGATION.
Action:
ADJOURNMENT.
CITY OF 10 WA CITY
City Council Meeting Schedule
and Tentative Work Session Agendas,
June 27,1997
June 30 - July 6, 1997
Telecast Live on Cable Channel 4
July 2
7:00a
SPECIAL FORMAL COUNCIL MEETING
WednesdayI
Counc// Chambers
July 4
7:00p
CITY OFFICES CLOSED
Friday