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Home My WebLink About1990-12-11 Agenda , U' [I rl ., I LI IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL AGENDA :l ! . . . I . I ..l .....,.t REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF DECEMBER 11, 1990 7:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CIVIC CENTER 410 EAST WASHINGTON J , ;:-8- ,'[" r7 . "'I -c,. . At1:c-;.., ~' "1 ,(Jt.oc.(ry AGENDA ~MV IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. DECEMBER 11, 1990 7:30 P.M, COUNCIL CHAMBERS ~.ctI.<< ~ ITEM NO.1. CALL TO ORDER. ROLL CALL ITEM NO, 2. MAVOR'S PROCLAMATIONS. ITEM NO.3. o. Collogo Womon't Baskolball Day. JanuOl'f 5, 1991. 'Jl L. Ll'1\& 1)... . )clC...bu- 1:1 ",0 Co. ~1Io ~:3~D i.Ju.~. u, IO.'~ CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THh CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED 1710 OR AMENDED, o. Consldor approval of Otnclal Council AclJons of tho rogular mooUng of Novombor 27, 1990, as publlshod, tub/oct to corroctlon, os rocommondod by tho City Clork. b. Mlnutot of Boardt end Commissions. (I) Human Rights Commission mooting 01 Oclobor 22, 1900. (2) Board 01 Appoals mooting 01 Novombor 29, 1990. . . I i (3) Housing Commission mooting of Soplombor II, 1990. (4) CMI Sorvfco Commission mooting 01 Novombor 7, 1990. (5) Sonlor Contor Commission mooting 01 Octobor 16, 1990. t j (6) Broadband Tolocommunlcotlons Commission mooting 01 Octobor 17, 1990. (7) Airport Commission mooting 01 Oclobor 16, 1990. (61 Boord 01 Ubrory Trusloos mooting 01 Novombor 16, 1,990. o. Porml! Motions and Rosolutlons os Rocommondod by tho City Clork. (1) Consldor a motion approving a Spoclol Closs 'C' BoorM'lno Pormlt for Blnh Van Nguyon dba TU.DO Roslauranl, 224 S, Cllnlon, (ronowoll U [I fl '. I h . Mayor's Proclamations lIorov,1 Ambr./ May I add a taglino to your fino proclamation, Thoro is a concerted errort within tho communllY, spearheaded by the local nowspaper. 10 make every eCrorl to sell OUI the lIawkeye Arena, I have been solicited and I will parllclpale, I am encouraging everybody who Is or a mind to buy several tlckels Cor their firm or ror their Camllies and help support Ihls prolect. I think it Is quite nOleworlhy and a hlslorlc occasion, lIoro,,1 I I I II -.-1 . c.J .. .~..~-, . i , , , I I I I J ! I -- .:... . "-0.- [I rl '. I ',-, ' . . Agonda Iowa City City Councll Rogulor Councll MooUng Docombor II, 1990 Pogo 2 (2) Consldor 0 motion approvfng 0 Spoclal Closs 'C" BoorM'lno Pormll lor Pagllal'l Pizza Palaeo, LTD. dba Pogllal'l Pizza, 302 E. Bloomington. (ronowoJ) (3) Consldor 0 moUon approving 0 Closs 'C" Uquor Uconso for Von Ching Rostourenl, lno. dbo Von Ching Roslourant, 1603 Boyrum StroOl (ronowoJ) (4) Consldor 0 moUon approvfng 0 Closs 'C" Uquor Uconso for Gabo'l, 100. dbo GObO'l, 330 E, Washington Strool (ronow' oJ) -~O'dd.\ (5) Conlldor a rosoluUon to Issuo danclng pormlt to Gabo's. d. SotUng Publlo Hoerlngs. !SO.",;),~ (I) Consldor a rosolullon lotting publlo hoorfng for JenuOl'f 8, 1991, on plens, IpoclncaUons, form of contract end osUmoto of cost for tho conltrucUon of tho Fllcal Voar 1991 Senltory Sower Improyomonts Proloct. Commonl: this pro/oct II a comblnaUon 01 four Imallor senltary lowor pr%m: Ralston Crook Crossings Ropalr, Morcor Park Rollof Sowor, Socond Ayonuo Rollol Sowor end BOI Sowor Extonslons, AI Ralston Crook, demagod plpos , . crossing tho crook and tho pilings supporUng thom will bo 'I roplocod, At Morcar Park and Socond Ayonuo,largor sowors will bo InstoJlod connocUng oxlstlng IOWOrs with tho 10Uth. oosllntorcoptor to rOliOYO lurchorgos. At 801, sanitary sowor will bo oxtondod to IOMCO alllols In BOI 3rd and 5th Addl. Uons, Tho Englnoor'a construcUon cosl ostlmalo II $200,000. .00. o. Rosolutlons. ...\'I)D' ;),a.;.:. (1) Consldor a rosoluUon accoptlng tho work for lho Highway 1 allntorltolo 80 Paving Improyomonl Projoct. Commonl: this rosolutlon occopls 011 work lor tho Highway 1 at Intorslalo 80 Paving Improyomont Projoct. Tho nnal conlract prlco Is SI ,087,223.42. Olthls amount, approxlmolo. ~ $963,000.00 Is oxpoctod to bo rolmbursod by tho Iowa Oopartmonl 01 Transportation, Soo altachod Englnoor's Roport, a .~'- f] rr;. I ." Et--- ' Agonda Iowa City City Council Rogulor Councfl Mooting Docombor 11, 1990 pago 3 ~ (21 1~O'(')~S Consldor a rosoluUon occopUng tho work lor tho Sycamoro V10w SanltOl'f Sowor end Paving Pr%ct Commonl: Soo 11IIchod Enginoor'l RoporL (31 Consldor I rosolutlon accoptlng tho work lor tho Plvlng Improvomonts lor Sarnuol Orlvo Addition, Commonl: Soo ettachod Engineer', Ropgrt. I. Corrospondonco. (II Lotlor from Robort Myors rogardlng tho proposod ban on opon burning. (2) Lollor Irom Joollon and Jamos Mogen rogardlng tho pro. posod ban on open burning. (3) Momorando Irom tho Tralno Englnoor rogordlng: (a) Posting a Tow.AwlY Zono In tho Contral Buslnoss District, (bl Slop sign on Kookuk Stroot II Sandusky Orlvo, (c) Loft.lurn doslgnoUon al Bonton StrooVOrchord Stroot. ! (4) Potltlon slgnod by 316 parsons roquostlng lho City Council to addross lho Issuo 01 skotoboordlng. Slgnoturos Iro on filo In tho City Clork'a r..lnco. g, AppllcoUons for City Plaza Uso Pormlts. (I) AppllcaUon from Mlcholo Sumstlno for usa 01 tho fountain aroa on City Plaza lor a sludonl projocl on Novombor 30, 1990. (opprovodl . - , . fl rl " I cl _ . Agondo lowo City City Councll Rogul8/ Councll MooUng Oocombor 11,1090 Pago 4 h, Applications for Uso 01 Strool. and Publlo Grounds. (1) AppllcoUon from 00 Ann Nlllos 10 hlvo a 'Walk Against tho Waf on Oocombor 2, 1090. (approvod) ...AmJ. J rf~. ( dt~, e,ltrM END OF CONSENT CALENbAR f ~,"_J ,,~ I. I. 1l\"D ~ AI~~f,h,tu ~ ITEM NO, 4. PLANNINO AND ZONINO MAmRS, a. Publlo hoarfng on an ordlnanco Imondirlg Chaplor 36 01 tho Iowa City Codo 01 Zoning Ordlnoncos to limit and control oslobllshmont 01 hollports, hollpads, and hollstops In Iowa City, Iowa. Commonl: AI It. Novombor 15, 1990, mooUng, by 0 voto of 6-0, tho Planning and Zoning Commls.lon rocommondod approval 01 an ordlnanco that wOuld Introduco amondalory longuago In tho Zoning Ordlnanco to prohlblftho ostabllshmont of hollports and hollstops as olthor principal or accossory um In tha city's commorclol and rosldontlal zonos, this rocommondotlon Is gonorally conslstont w11h tho sian rocommondotlon In 0 momorandum dolod Octobor 25, 1090. AcUon: lev ~.J n~ /~'( (11t'.i/;r l'M.l~i""".({"~v ( ( ""tOn. b. Consldor an ordlnonco amondlng Chaplor 36 of tho Iowa City Coda ~ of Zoning Ordlnancos to limit and control ostobllshmont 01 hollports, hollstops and hollpads In Iowa City, Iowa. (First Consldoratlon) Commonl: Soo Itom o. obovo. Action: ~ I ~ &r'A' Iii '/g (!.Q.Q. "'t" . I ; I ' !' '! - , 0" [I .rl i~J n ' . Con,enl Calendar lIorowl Moved by Ambr,. seconded by Larson- Rollcall- Okay. Kubby/l v,'ould like 10 nOle Ihal v,'e gOla petition signed by 318 peoplo requesting the cil)' council address Ihe Issue oC skaleboardlng, And Ihere are some people here Ihal are going to address Ihls during public discussion, I/orow I I " , . . -, T~~,'''''''''''''''.- . :i .' . . I'" l( . " " II I' Ilrl , , '! .. ' j '. _u~",;-<:.:..l .- . ,u_~"_-r '"1 \ , I i I :1 I , , , ,..-j . I I . i I , , i I I ;. , 'j fJ i [I " rt' ~i~', -~ I "10 page I lIorow/,CounclI will be deferring conslderlnglhe ordinance lonlghl We will nOltake HrSl consideralion VOle Ihls evening We will defer Ihal 1'10'0 weeks, Thai dale Is" ~arrl January 8th, The neJl regular council meelingls January 81h. lIorov.'/l now declarlllhe public hearing open, Larson/l want to lust add ror people v.'ho are v.'onderlng, It Is a prelly mong policy within the clly lhat we nOl VOle on som~lhlng on the same nighlthat we hold the p.h, II doesn'llook like you have much chance 10 conSider com menu made allhe p,h, If you go ahead and VOle ten seconds orler you hear those commenlS. Thai Is part or Ihe reason, And we thought that it was an imporlanl enough issue thai we ought to have a Cull council here ror that vote, Sorry thaI you hm 10 come back again to hear the vote If you wanlto, We wll1take all comments tonight Dr John Kammermeyerl Firsll'd like 10 present these pelltions, approllmately 750 slgnalUres In Cavor or these amendments, Horowl Move to acceplthose inlo the record, Karr/lC you'd like to, you can also walt until after lhe'publlc hearing and accept everything as one, iC you're so Inclined. lIorowl Because we do have some other correspondence Kammormeyorl My namo is John Kammermeyor and tonlghl, I'm spooking on behalf or these amendments to the zoning ordinance, both ror myself, and as a representative oC the Northslde Neighborhood Association, We are basically opposed to heliports In ony re,ldenlinl or commercinlzone In Iowa CllY, We do not think lhatlhere's any quesllon concerning the undesirability or a heliport In a residential zone, So movinll on to commercial zones, all commercial zones. OICepl neighborhOOd and highway commercial zones, currently allow resldenlial uso above the ground floor, Indeed, especially In Ihe central parlor the city, there's a great deal of residential usage in commercial zones, Thus a heUpad In a commercial zone would be jusl as undesirable as jr it were in residential zone, There are three main reasons why heliports in residential and commercial zones are undesirable. These are firstly, safelY. second noise and vi bra lion poilu lion, thirdly. decreased property value, Concerning safelY. helicoplers can crash due 10 mechanical railure or pilot error, IC Ihe hellcoptor Is below 300 reetln altllude, whon trouble develops, tho helicopler cannot be maneuvered by auto" rOlalion and II will come slraighl down and crash, If Ills higher than 300 fectills possible ror the pilot to do some limited maneuvering, perhaps hove a somewhal comrolled landing. Examples or crashes I ~, ~ ' , . U [I rl ;~/ j:/ "4a page 2 over the last decade or pertinence in lhls region Include, March. 1980 Webster City. where lhree people were killed by an emergency medical helicopter craShing near the hospital In September.1980, thoro was a prlvale helicopter that crashod just North oC ~Innlck Stadium. during the r1rst quarler or lhe Iowa-Iowa State roolball game. In September. 1981, there was a partially controlled crash landing or a aircare helicopter on Grand A venue, near Relnow and Slater halls, And most recently, In January, 1988. there was a crash of a. I think it was. I'm not Me or the name or the firm. but it Is a Medical Emergency helicopter. SkyMed I believe. at the University of Nebraska Medical Center In Omaha. No one was killed there, but but there were some Inlurles and the pilot received burns. Part or tho hellcopler flew a block and hit an automobilo. So there are safety concerns. As Car as noise and vibration. when a helicopter comes In on a glide path to land. It Is under 300 Ceet in allllude Cor a number oC blocks around the heliport. Decibel readings are approlimately seventy at three hundred Ceet away, approllmately ninelY at one hundred Ceet away, and in the range oC 105-110 at flrty feel away rrom Iho helicopter on landing or lake-oCC. In addllion, thero's a groat deal oC vibration, which Is hard 10 quantllate, but we are all awaro rhat that Is present, And also we have learned in the laSI tew monlhs. Ihat a modern hell porI has a IIghl beacon, which operales at nlghlllme. And Ihus we have noise. vibration. and lIghl pOllulion around Ihe heliport. As Car as properly value, generally properlY value may decrease around a hellporllr It Is eSlablished In a buill up area. Rents drop, jusl as lhoy would near an airport, and in addlllon, insurance will nol cover any chronic damage caused by repoated vibralion over a prolonged periOd or lime, moreover, a number or people on Ihe norlhslde discovered Ihls rail Ihal Ihey would have 10 purChase addilionallnsurance 10 be Cully covered if a hellporl were eSlablishod near their residence, Now Iowa residential and commercial zones, A recent survey done by Ihe Melropolllan Council oC Ihe Twin Cllies, or cities In Ihe Minneapolis and SI. Paul region. showed thaI 27~ of the cilies responding 10 the survey, 10lally prohlblled hollports in the clly. Also, In addition. San Francisco has banned all hellporls In their clly In recenl years. Including all hospital based heliports ror reasons of safelY and noise. So In summary. we feel the proposed amendments Ii ...~ . . 'rl rl j~) -,,:=, . ., J, . _ ._ '1a page 3 to the wning ordinance currently before you, would eUminale any queslion or ruture inlerpretalion or lhe loning ordinance concerning the prohibition or heliports, And I and the North~ide NeighborhOOd Assoclallon urge lhe adoplion or these amend menu by lhe city council. Thank you very much, Horowl Thank you Dr, Kammermeyer, Any questions from council? Is there anybody else who wOUld Iikc to speak to th" ordinance? Jim Pontol MY name Is Jim Ponto; llivc at 130 E, Davenporl, I agree with all Dr, Kammermeycr's commcnts. I personally am opposed to II. Obviously, a lot or this resulled Crom Mercy's aUempt at establishing a helicopter, During the Board or Adjuslment meetings. two rormer City Council members testimony spoke to the Cactthal I 1983 the city council during tho development or that ordinance, atleasl according to these rormer city council members, Cell that they were In fact prohiblllng helicopters In commcrcial resldcnllaland the zoning codc Interpretation panel's rUling reconlly obviousl}' questions thc original Intent oC wh81they wanted to do, SI) because or possible legal Inlerpretatlon conruslon, (think that adoption or these ordinance amend menu Is appropriate. Thank you. Horowl Thank you, Anyono clso? (lIcne Holbrookl ('m Illene Holbrook and ('m president or the Norlhside NeJghborhood Association, and I'm not going to lengthen this out because I know you're all aware or what's gone on in the past and you're probably tired or hearingil. However. we are very happy aboutlhe decisions that have been made so rar. and I hm rellthat It's not only been the Northside problem. II's a prOblem oC the whole cities, and the countryside around us. I do hopo in much consideration, you will pass this ordinance so that in the nen rew years we won't be righting this Ilem again, at Mercy or anywhere elso inside the clly limits. (think that protecllng our neighborhOOdS and protecting the people or this town Is more Important than having helipads or heliports allhe convenlenco or establishments, Thank you. 1I0row/ Thank you, Is there anyone else? Albert Soucekl I'm Albert Soucek and I reside al 80 I Brown Street, Iowa Clly, Iowa, and I'd like to talk 10 you about noise In general, and nolso rrom helicopters in parllcular, My baCkground Is somewhalln this area, I hold the degrtle or Masters or Public lIeallh Crom the Unlverslly or Minnesota School or Public Health with major emphasis on environmontal hoalth. J currontly hold a INavyl rank of 06 Caplaln .1 .. ',' fl rl E" " :Y .. J - [J [I, rl .;~' s ..J . J , '1a page 3 to the zoning ordinance eurrenlly berorc you, would eliminate any question or ruture interpretation or the zoning ordinance concerning the prohibition or heliports, And I and the Northslde Neighborhood Association urge the adoption or lhese amendments by lhe cily council, Thank you very much, lIorow/ Thank you Or, Kammer meyer, Any questions rrom council? Is there anybody else who would lite 10 speat 10 lhi, ordinance? Jim Ponlo/ MY name Is Jim Ponlo; I live at130 E, Davenporl. I agree with all Or, Kam mer meyer's com men IS, I personally am opposed to II. Obviously. a lot oC lhls resulled rrom Mercy's atlempl al eSlablishing a helicopter, During lhe Board or Adjuslmenl meetings, two Cormer Cily Council members testimony spoke 10 lhe ract thai I 1983 the cily council during the development oC lhat ordinance, alleast according to lhese rormer cily council members, Celllhal they were In facl prOhibiting helicopters in commercial residenllal and lhe zoning code Interprelallon panel's ruling recently obviously questions lhe original inlenl oC what lhey wan led to do. So because oC possible legal Inlerpretatlon conCuslon, Ilhlnk lhal adoption or these ordinance amendments Is approprlalo, Thank you. Horow/ Thank you, Anyone olso? IlIene Holbrook I I'm IlIone Holbrook and I'm prosldenl of tho Northslde Neighborhood Assoclallon, and I'm nOl going 10 lenglhen lhls OUt because I know you're all aware or whal's gone on in the past and you're probably lIred or hearing II. 1I0wever, we are very happy aboUtlhe decisions that have been made so far. and I have rellthat II's not only been the Norlhside problem, II's a problem or the whole eilles, and lhe counlryslde around us, I do hope In much cOllsldorallon, you will pass this ordinance so lhat In the nell rew years we won'l be r1ghllng this ilem again, at Mercy or anywhero olse Inside lhe city limits, I think that protecllng our neighborhoods and prolectlng lhe people or lhls lown Is more Imporlanl than having hellpads or heliports allhe convenience or OSlabllshmenlS, Thank you, 1I0row/ Thank you. Is lhere anyone else? Alber! Soucek/I'm Alberl Soucek and I resldo al 80 I Brown Slreel, Iowa Clly, Iowa, and I'd like 10 lalk 10 you about noise In general. and noise Crom helicopters in particular, My background Is somewhal In lhls area, I hold lhe degree of Masters or Public lIeRllh rrom lhe Unlversily or Minnesota School or Public IIeallh wilh major emphasis on envlronmontAI hOallh. I curronlly hold a lNavyl rank of 06 Captain , :! ,I 1/ , . , I o [I rl i~t ~ b' '4a page 4 In the US Public lIealth Service. Among olher things lhat we do Is to prOVide medical support for the US Coast guard, Let's talk a 1I1tle bit aboul noise, Now noise Is unwanted sound. something we don't like \'ery '10'011 and it's actually a rorm or pollution.luslllke radiologic pOllution or smoke rrom clgarelles oC auto emission or ~'aste incinerators and the likes. so noise is a rorm of pollution. We measure noise and sound by a unit called a decibel. Usually. in ordinary life, most or the noises and sounds range Crom zero 10 160 decibels. I don't want to get repetitive, but I do have to use this a IIl1le bit ror background. Anything rrom lero 10 60 decibels Is acceptable, Thilt would be my conversalion or perhaps a car going by or lhe wind. From silty to a hundred decibels we would consider annoying, That would be maybo your neighbor with your snowblower, a vacuum cleaner, alarm clock, or a helicopter flying overhead. Now anything over a hundred. like a hundred and slXlY Is very obleclionable. In that aroa would be things like rlvellnK machines, jack hammers, rock bands al aboul 100 Ceel.lel airplanes laking orr 100 Ceel rrom there. and hellcopler, parlicularly in approach, In hover,lhen climb ou\. Wllh this preliminary Ihing, I wanllo lalk aboullhe noise Crom helicopters, a 111110 bll. My own experience, and thai's conslderablo, has been In Ihe Dell 203 and Ihe Enlron 280 and Ihe Sikorsky 76. For the flrsl two of Ihe kind, you mighl use In hospital opmlion, relallvely small hellcoplers, IIellcoplers get Ihelr noise either Crom their engines, the noise or lhe comhustlon In Ihelr cylinders wllh hOl exhausl, Ihe gases In Ihe cylinders are hOI and under pressure and so when Ihey come oUlln lhe cool air, Ihey mako popping noises, and Ihat includes tho Inlernal combuslion engine helicopter, lhe turbine hellcopler, and Ihe hollcopler sounds are very Invasive IC you've e\'er heard one, you'll recognize thom. Thoy'ro also vory scary, They produce the reeling oC rear In people, With Ihls Cear, comes physiological changes. hearl rale Increases. blood pressure goos up. and so rorlh, Ihe main lhlng aboul helicopters lhal produces this noise, Is called blade slap. ThaI has 10 do with lhn blade coming up agalnsl Ihe air. In mosl helicopters thai have a completely integrated syslom, Ihe blades can go up and down Cour and a hair and Ihey're also on rolallon, so this depends on what slluatlon they'ro adjustod in, So I've been lalklng mosliy orc lho curc here. but I would like 10 concludo by rererring also to this Minneapolis lIelicopler Ordinance which slates thai helicopter noise Is coming under close scrutiny In -- . , 0--[1' f1 ,,;~~.] " :, -1a pagc 5 early planning S1ages for hellporlS. Potcnlial noise Impact on surrounding areas, is emerging as the controlling issue in eSlablishing heliport slles. Thank you very much Cor your allenlion, 1I0ro\v / Thank you Or, Soucek, Anyone else; Marli Milani/ My nome's Marll Milani and llivo at 730 E, Ronalds. Arter all we've said at all or our various meetings. I think you all know hoVo' e in the Norlh end reel. I would urge you 10 pass this ordinance, ror the the sake of the reslden" of the north end so that we can stay home at night once In a while and gel on 10 more poslllve lhlngs like plan ling lrees and planning ror Ihe clean-up of our lillle happy hollow park and olher evenlS, Wc've been prelly busy wllh this and I would IUSl, as a pOSlScrlpllo Ihal, like 10 say. II's been 0 very renov.'ing experlencc Cor me, and ('m sure, we're all oC us. who have participated In this, and 10 Ihese young p~ople who are here about the skateboards. Ihat this Is lust a wonderCul experience or democracy, We Ihank all or you, and all or the other boards and commissions who have heard us, If things go right. you won't hear Crom us again Cor a while. 1I0row/ Thank you Marli. Al this lime, ('m going to uk our cllY auorney 10 give us a synopsis oC Ihls ordinance, so thai you who have mado Ihe lime to come down hero can listen 10 iland help us consider Ihls. Genlry/thanks, Susan. There are a lot or Camlllar Caces In lhe audience and I appreciale you're coming down once mere 10 tclllhe council whal you think Is approprlale, Whallhis ordinance as Ills proposed will do Is , firsl or all, II will conlinue 10 permit heliports. hellslops, and hell pads. which are actually three dlfrerenllhlngs,ln two zones In Ihe currenl zoning ordinance: lIeavy Induslrlal, which Is (-I, and Public Zones, which is any area Iholls Is zoned ror a pUblic use. which obviously will includo Iho airport. The second Ihlng il does, II will conlinue 10 Iimil hell pads as principal uses by special excepllon In Ihe three zones which we lalked aboul beCore: lhe Orrice Research Park. the Research Development Park, and lho Industrial Zone or General Industrial, or (-I, The Ihird Ihlng it will do is clarlCy Ihalln lhose same Ihree zones, or Orrice Research Park, Ihe Research Developmenl Pork, and lhe I nduslrlal Zones, which ore largo areas zones Ihoy're large land consumplive, Ihal accessory uses in Ihose zones will be Iimllod 10 special oxceplion, Ihal means going 10 Ihe Board or Adluslmenl and having a pUblic hearing and lhe findings or fact,lusl as you people did I , .. . .a [I rl i~' FI '1a page 6 In rronl of the Doard of Adjustment. The rourlh Ihlng II will do is. Ihe way the ordinance Is drafted, lhe council will make as aleglslalive finding of focllhal heliporlS, hellslops. and helicopler landings and lake'orrs are nOI appropriale in resldenUal and com mercial zones. and lhererore will ban Ihem In lhose 1'10'0 zones, The final and f1C1h Ihlng II will do Is find also 85 a leglslallve roc\, lhal air Iransporlallon Is nOI an Integral pari or a hospllal use. and lherdore will redefine Ihe deflnlllon or a hospllal In Ihe zoning ordinance, 1I0row/ Okay, Ihank you. Mrs. Genlry, Is Ihere anyone else who would like 10 address us? Thank you, Jim. ('II tako you noxt Jim Larew/ Madam Mayor and council members, I appreclale Ihe City Auorney's describing Ihe inlenl oC Ihis ordinance because Ihe poinll Intend 10 address Is how Ilhlnk Cor Ihe beuer Issues. such as Ihls one will be addressed by our pUblic bodies if Ihls amendmenl to Iho zoning ordinance is adopled which I would encourage you 10 do, The overall beneflllo Iho adopllon or this ordlnanco is Ihal by banning, and Ihe presumpllon being thai such uses In residenUal and commerclalaroas by hellporls, hollpads, or hollslOPS, Is nollo bo permllted In resldenllaland commercial arons, /I would Impose Ihe burden on Ihose who in the fUlure might wish such uses 10 come 10 lhis body. The most public, Ihe moSI responsive, lhal body which Is Charged wllh Ihe dUly or finding CaclS and making law ror our cllY and would Impose on Ihal person or group or Inslllullon who wish 10 have heliports, or hells lops, or hellpads placed In resldenllal and commercial areas, 10 come berore Ihose who would Collow you.lr nol yourselves, And Ihls Is as II should be. I believe. Ilhlnk Ihal all members who aro caSlin Iho roles, whelher Ihey be In Iho board of adlustmenl, Ihe Zip panel, or others, In every Inslance Ihall could observe, were attempllng rallhrully 10 perrorm the dulles or their orrlces, DUlIl none"lhe-less because II became entailed in a lechnlcal Inlerpretallon or a code or ordlnanco almost became a bailie oC law briers and technical and hypertechnlcal hypotheses aboUI what some council member In some era was Inlendlng. I think your adopllon or lhls ordinanco would prevonllhal Crom occurring. That Is 10 say, iC someone In the rUlUro wishos 10 mako this kind or use or commercial or resldenllal property, they would havp. 10 come 10 you, or to your successors, and d",crlbe Ihat need, and Y(l\l '\lCJlild have to find facl Jl tJ '0 rt j~"'.cl '4a page 7 and make concluSion, of la'lo' to '0 adopt II \\llhOUllhl5 amendment being adopted, 1115 qUlle pOSSible thai \\'e \\'ould have a Similar cour,e or even15. Wllh similar Clllzens. in good rallh, allempllng 10 hyperlechnical 'ways. ad\'ice Vl'llh Ihe beSl laVo')'ers Ihey could find 10 rind OUI whal people Inlended or mel and placed 10 Ihe very uncomrorlable posiUons \\'hich Ilhink thai a number or people haw brcn, We do elecl people such B! you to be pl3~cd In uncomforlable poslUons. BUllhese olhers do so OUI of \'olunlary and appoinUve capacity, Ilhlnk Ihalll ,hould go with the burden or lhe orrice, lhat you rill. not wilh some olher organs of governmenl Ilhlnk Irs especially importanl ror lhis kind or Issue. because Ihe use or hollcoplorl In Ihose areas. iI's clear Ihallhe benefils and Ihe burden, are nOI shared equally. Those who mlghl benefll b~' Ihe location or Ihe hellporl, may nol surrer any or Ihe burdens, Thai \\'as what was moSl deeply Cell I Ihlnk by the the Norlhslde Neighborhood. all hough II was not clear 10 them whallhe benenlS would be to Ihom. Ihey could certainly envision whallhe burdens would be. Ilhlnk lhls kind or body which would Invite Inpul rrom lhe entire communlly and making aleglslallve finding Ihal arCecled our enUre communily.ls Ihal body which Is mosl apl and pro pared 10 Ihink broadly aboullho Cuture of our com munlty, and not these other organs or governmenl which have been put through Ihe process already. lIellcopters, when JOhn Kammermeyer was describing the five wrecks thai happened, vivid and palnrul memories were broughllo me because I was Involved In a tangenUal way wllh the 1980 utlhe Iowa-Iowa Slale roolball game. I use il as an mmple how any or us riIled perhaps wllh Ihe vanilY of self InlereSI can maybe disregard danger' 10 olher" I had hired thai helicopler to PUl a banner allhe back or iI, 10 fly over rootballgame, 10 promolo an IIHalod poliUcal campaign or my own, I have since nOled, wllh some embarrassmenl, thai others have done so ror perhaps beller causes, bathroom tile replacement. birthdays, and other causes, Becauso my banner was 10 be the nellln line, I was paying acute allenUon 10 every moUon thallhal hellcoplCr was made, and I sUII remember palnrully and walched lis descenl which was very sudden and Ihankrully nOl on a crowd, lIad II beon my bannor on the end or Ihat hellcopler, (Ihink II would'vo been a very approprlale melaphor for a campaign thaI was going nowhere and sinking raSI I menllon this because Ilhink all or us whelher we're Individuals, or InsUlullons, I think Mercy 1I0spllalls as much a concorned citizen In this community as any other, hUItt'S posslblo Ihal JI tJ, [l rl' '~I n. .' '40 page 8 some olher Inslilulion with less strong lies, maybe an out or state developer or a hOlel complex. someone who we have no control over would think, gee, this Is in my Interest, and may ha\'o no real antenna or what's In the community Interesl. IC that parly, thatinslitulion. less well grounded than the flile lil;lilUlioillhiil Mercy is by its very inception, It would have to come beCore this body or your successors. and say this need is so greal, that It's not only In my Interest but In the community's. If you don't adoptlhls amendmenl. my reeling Is thaI the arguments are lhen pASSed Into the technical legal brier mode rather than the policy making mode. I think that all or us Ceel that no mailer what tho result Is, If we've had tho Cullost opportunity to persuade our duly elected orrlclals lIS to what tho best Cuture Is Cor oul community. I thank you Cor the time to speak to this amendmenl. 1I0row/ Thank you Jim, I believe you had some questions. Eileen Deyer/411 Markel. I hadn't realized, until the amendment was read, that this extends, I dldn'l know It was listed. but It eUends the policy permitting helicopters to land In public places. Does this mean one can land in a block park anywhere around town, Ge9try/ No. We ore talking about tho airport proporty, Deter I It lust sounded unmodified. Larson/ By pUbliC In that area zoned public which would mean thaI 0 governmental body that owner public land could establish a heliport If they thoughtlhey could gel away wllh thaI. That is what II Is talking about, zoned public land. , Deyer/Thls already happened by this euension that they don't have to make any special - Gentry/ The currenlzonlng ordinance would presumably permltlhe school dlslrlctto allompt to land a hellcopler, We do nol anticlpato, from a staCr or council position, thaI Is going to happen, We do anticipale the alrporl will have helicopters as II does now land there to bring In Mercy's patients, , Deyer/ The olher thing I was concerned aboul lhal there Is no stalemenlln this. And I don't know further, maybe, or the height above the clly thaI Is Cree or alrcrafts, From whal height on down Is no aircraft 10 be flying, Gentry / ThaI Is a very good question, It Is something I talked about with Slarr. Perhaps I have or have not shared this wllh council. Under an old U,S. Supreme Courl Case. the rederal administration-the federal Avlalion Admlnlstrallon, fAA, has jurisdiction over air Iransportatlon down to one Coot above the ground, The City has control over lhings I I .1 i i I . . I I .' , a . [I . FI ' '~I ' I '4a page lJ that land and take orr on the ground or the buildings they're on, 50 lhe FAA is stili going to be concerned with lhlngs that are flying In certain pathways and we would antlclpale thaI they will be receptive to any flight plans or alrcrafu or any othcr helicopter. And the)' are , the ones that havc the jurisdiction over that, not the City, B~r~r II ~cc That I! threatening. Could anything be done 50 that this doom'l extend what seems to be another threat aboulthese public lands, I mean what you anticipate Isn't safe, Gentry/ Well If. my suggestion iC you are concerned aboulthal-lhe Des Moines division and the 51. Louis and ~ansas City division of the FAA are very rccepllve to giving you information about who has flight plans. They are all computerized In terms oC who has flight plans to fly across the air in this Vicinity. Courtney/I don't think that is what she is concerned aboUl, What she is concerned about Is the public zone Is going to remain In here and even though we don't antlclpale tho school dlstricl would want to establish a heliporl, they could. The city could establish one right out here In I the parking 101. Beyer/ That Is my concern that this does speclrically ellend that right. Gentry/ That was not changed. 1\ has not been my Indication that thoro wn, any Indication at the Pn Commission that that was suppose to be changed. Iforow/ Right. ~ubby/IC you wan led to. . 1I0row/ Could you please sign in, Mrs, Beyer~, ~ubby/IC we wanted to limll heliporl, helistop, helipad landing only at the airport, then we nced to make that oxplicll, Gontry/ Yes. If you want to Chango thaI. Now is tho tlmo beCoro It Is votod on. ~ubby/We would nced to continue the public hearing If Gentr)'/ Yes, yes. Nov./ Linda, as I underSlood It, the rewording thaI I proposed yesterday was not a subslanUve chango. Do we need a rormal amendment on thaI. Gentry/ You wlll need a Cormal amendmenl on thaI. Nov./Do wo need that today or do we wantlhal nellUme, Gentry /Ithlnk II should be discussed today unless you are going to conUnue the p,h, so that tho peoplo in the audlenco know what you are proposing, WIlliam Dull/ 320 B, Jerrerson, My concerns several months ago we about the heliCOpter landing al Mercy, I believe the Board of Adjustment has made the correct decision with regards 10 that, I would like to - - ,0 0 rl '~I ,;:1 '10 page 10 encourage Ihis council 10 pass lhe amendmenllhal you now have, My inlcrcSl is obviously personal, I live close 10 downlown, (live In Ihe norlh area, I have lived in Iowa CllY Cor 25 years. And I have several children, I work and walk downlovln an around my residence, I really don't bellove that any helicopters should bo landing closo 10 my hous~, My backyard. I dOifl WiliitthcDI to land in my backyard, I don't wan them landing Intersections close 10 my house. I don'tthlnk Ihey oughllo be landing OUI hero in Ihe parking 101. I would like 10 see a very slrong statement rrom you IhatllmllS these to areas which we have that are very safe and that is the airport. Ilhlnk any other place is just Illogical. Ills unsafe. They are noisy. This Is a small community. Tho Iowa City airport Is nOI very Car Crom anything. I would like an amondment that is crystal clear in IImiling these helicopters, hell pads, helistops, whatever you want to call them. I encourage you to pm this amendmentlC not change it to make it moro stringent. This is obviously vel)' personal. I don'l have any data to support my stands other than I am a cillzen, living here Cor 25 yesrs and I live In Iowa City because oC the nice community and the Creodom Crom nolso and I would like to see il conllnued. Thank you. lIorow/lsthoro anyono olso who would IIko 10 address the council. Nov.l Let me ask something while we are here. Linda, when I read this. we described very dlslinct limits In lerms oC size of area In order 10 PUI a heliport on Induslrlal zoned land, Why doesn't this size restriction also apply to public land, Genlry/I am afraid Ihat you are going 10 ask Don Schmeiser and Pfl., I took what was presented to my orrlce and Dana and I rewrole it and clarified It and IC It Is going-I am not sure how much Ihal was discussed at Pfl.. But I suspecl it was nol. And IC we aro going to make a substantive amondment thon we need 10 lalk aboulil. Larson/ Not only that, If we are going to lalk abOUl-lhe way II reads now Is you can get heliport Into a lnduslrlal lOne or research and orrlce park zone by special exception, And P/Z did nOI consider the Idea or banning helistops In Ihose two zones as well as public, And If council desire is 10 consider banning In alllhe zones, olher Ihan the airport. that Is something that has to go all the way back to PIZ, isn't il. Genlry/ They did discuss malnlalnlng Iho curronl ordinance with special exception both Cor principal accossary uses In the three zones lhat we lalked about, 1.1, RHP and ORP, I don't know, and Don can help me OUl, If they talked about the public zones, I wasn't there and I can't answer lhal. . . a [I ,rl '~I .:" ' '4a page II Larson/ As I said lasl night. Ilhink aboullhe first lime Ihal somebody In an Induslrlalzone eSlabllshes a heliSlop and Ihere Is 0 resldenlial area 500 Ceot away, which oC course Ihey can be under our zoning ordinance, Ihe success or Callure or Iheir applicallon ror a special eJceplion may hinge on whelher Ihal neighbor Is as democralic wilh a small d and as welllnlenlioned and as well financed as Ihe Norlh,lde neighborhood, Gen!ry/llhlnk Ihalls whal mcliy Ihe curren! ordinance provides and Pn confirmed Ihallhalls approprlale. For Ihe 1.1 zone. For general Induslrlal, right. Schmeiser/ Lot 010 oJplaln. Tho original ordinance only prohlbiled Ihe heliports, hellpads, and hcll5tops In Ihe resldenlial and commercial zones. It did not speak 10 induslrlal zonos speclrlcally or 10 Ihe P pUblic zone. Now keep in mind Ihal the P public zone Is only In Ihe zoning ordinance 10 serve as a nolice Cuncllon 10 adjoining properly owners because It does not now-It Is not now applicable 10 public uses. The zoning ordinance does not apply 10 Ihe school dlslrlcl. It does not apply 10 the UniversllY of Iowa, Larson! Thoy can do who lover Ihoy want. Schmelserl They can prelly much do whallhey want. They ar'J nOI bound by the cily zoning Qrdlnance, Larson/ My quesllon Is Ihls. IC council wanled 10 say you can'l have hollports In Induslrlal zones ellher or orrico and research park zones because or Ihe Ceellng IC you rely on Ihe special mepllon process, maybe you don'lgel the same kind or hearing al the Board or Adjuslmenllhat Ihls Issue brought rorward, Maybo Iho neJl Issue Ihe peoplo can'l arCord lens or thousands of dollars to conleSI this kind or a thing, Did Pn consider whelhor hellporls should lusl bo banned rrom the cily, period. Schmelser/l don'llhlnk Ihere was any queslion Ihat P/Z Commission rell Ihat Ihe heliports and hell pads would nol be per milled in an Induslrlal zone mepl as a special eJcoplion as II so slales in the ordinance, Ilhlnk Ihls amendalory language only makes 1I cryslal clear as 10 whOllho Intent or Ihe ordinance Is in Ihe first place. Kubby/ Evon If you wero rool eJpllciloboul saying no hellporls in public zones mepllhe airport, stale law, or whalover slill says Ihe pUblic zone is IuS! a deslgnalion bUllhey don'l have 10 rollow Ihe zoning ordinance, SChmeiser! Thai Is correCl, Ironically, luslln Ihe laSl couple or weeks, our legal slarr has found some judicial courts decisions which Indlcale Ihal I i! " 'I Ii 'I I. II ., .I -- J a [I 't-I, ":1 LI . '1a page 12 we can regulate public bodies to some ellentthrouRh our zoning provisions. This Is somethlnR we are pursuinR now, as a mailer or fact In our zoning ordinance, ~ubb)'/lIow would those things apply to this ordinance. Do you know, Schmeiser/I think it Is something you would wanlto bo careful In writing Into the ordinance, And if you were to do so, I think you should conllnue the p,h. so we can prepare something ror you 10 consider a\ the nClt meetlng, Larson/ Long day. I am not gelling my point across. Which Is. Ir council wanted to ban heliports In the city, this ordinance doesn't do that. It stllls allows them by special exceptlon I those two or three zones, Schmeiser/ That's correct. Gentry/ That's correct. Larson/ And If we wanted to do that, do we have to send It back to Pfl or do we lust amendment it on the floor here, Schmeiser/I think It Is a substantive change, Gentry/It Is very substantive. Larson/I don't know how council Ceels about that but that Is what left out for me last night about the thing Is that It Is nol much dlrrerent. Courtnoy/I'II bo tho first ono to speak up on tho public zoning question. I would In no way support taking on Universily 1I0spilal as a public zono and banning their helicopter. Larson/I am not talking about thaI. I happen 10 agree that we have a real need, Courtney/ And I also would nOt want to ban us Crom potentlal police use If needed someday In this area, There Is no way I would support banning all public areas, Larson/ Tho public thing Is a moot point. We can't regulate that, It Is not a zoning classlflcallon, That Is nol what I am talking about, (lust want to make sure that everybody wanls to conllnue allowing them by special excepllon I those two zones. J.I and whatever the other one Is, Gentry/ The other two research park zones, That is something thaI we need to decide now or else continue the p,h, If lhere Is some substanllve changes In the current ordinance as proposed, it will need to be, the p,h, '10'111 need to be continued, Larson/It would have to go back to P/Z. wouldn't it, Gentry/fthlnk Don Is right. f don'lthlnk Pfltalked about changing the current special meptlon scheme, I think largely lhey talked about com merclal and resldentlal. That Is my understanding, Larson/Iguess flust see this same thing coming up ,potenllally, That a orrlce or research raclllty decides thalthere Is a possibility, So they go ; , I I , - '. f1 [f rl _ _'j S ' -4a page 13 10 Ihe Board of Adjuslmenl ror a special mepllon and Ihen we are In a same bind where why didn'l you rolks address Ihls back Ihen, I don't know how I am going 10 VOle on II bUlllhlnk Ihalll oughllo be discussed, Nov.I You have Ihe wholo ordlnanco in Cronl or you. Can you lell us is II ten acres required, is IllwenlY acres required Cor thai special mepllon, Kubby/ The imporlanllhlng Is can II be anywhere on Ihose len acm, Because lC Ills on Ihe edge rlghl nelllo alraller park or neighborhood- Genlry/Bul thai would be deall wllh os any special elcopUon In lerms or rull blown hearing, wllh condlUons imposed upon 1110 prolecllhe neighbors. Nov.l This was whall was trying 10 got 10. Genlryl These are very large. I don't have the acres In rront or me. And I don't know Is Don remembers the acreages. DUllhey are large areas. 1I0row/ Whalls council's pleasure. I am hearing Ihat flrsl or all we aro dererrlng the Vole. Second of alllhero Is a sense or going back 10 Pfl. 10 get Ihls. Council/ No. Larson/I am wllllng 10 wall unlll tho January meoUng 10 docldo. AmbrlI Ihlnk there Is enough jnformatlon n there ror mo 10 cast a Vole. I don't wan I 10 go back 10 PIZ. We have had ample discussion, Nov.ll would like to read the amended wording on the deflnlllon or hospllal 10 gellhls Inlo Ihe record. It says, An Inslitulion providing heallh services Cor human InpaUent medical care Ior the sick or Inlured and Included relaled Cacllllles which are an InlfNatparl thereof such as laboratories, OUI pallenl CaclllUes, slarC orrlces I , . i , CIIANGB T APF. TO REEL 90-100. SIDE 2 the lasl ClCepl clause Is an addl.~lp9 and Ihere is a rewording blur. It says, CaclllUes which are an Inl~parl there or. These aro lhe changes. 1I0row/ Do we need a mollon 10 amend Ihal now or laler, Genlry/ Laler. You may do IIlaler. As long as Ihe public knows Ihat Ihalls a change thai you will be conlemplaUng al your first reading, Kubby I Allhough whal Randy dismissed the point aboul areas zoned public, Don was lusl saying Ihere Is a way to do Ihal. It doesn't mean we can'l "r~~pllhe Un lv, Ilospllal or any place where currently hellporls are or where hCllcoplers land now, J' . r,. r( '~I h J '~a page I ~ Genlry/ We have no zonlnglurlsdiction over the University whether landing or otherwise, I don't really know whBl Don Is talking about. 1I0row/ Tho p.h, Is still open, Let mo seo If thero Is anyone else who "ants to address us and then \\10 will close, Larson/ Thai was my question, Is there any reason 10 close il. Oecau,e If we leave II open and just continue 1110 the next meeting we lhen have the option to discuss some of lhese things and do wh8lever we need to do. I/orow/ What would council like to do, Would you like to keep the p,h. open/ Kubby/ Oecauso we mado a Chango tonight, I don't have a prOblem leaving It open. I do not have a problom. I/orow / Two no cares, no. Nov.ll don't this Change is anything substantive, Gentry/l agree. Your change Is purely Clarifying, modlCylng phrase. It Is not substanUve. You don't need to conUnue the p,h, for thaI. I/orowl The p,It.ls closed, Karvcan we have a motion to acceptlhe correspondence, I/orow/ Moved by Nov., socondod by Kubby to accopt tho potitions and the correspondence. Kubby/I don't know when the discussion takes place for if we want to discuss further banning, Larson/ When we are discussing the ordinance, we can decide this ordinance doesn't go far onough, We can send II back, Gentry/ You can vote It down, Nov.ll would pl'eCer to accept this ordlnanco and then discuss a, a soparate Issue whether or nol we want to keep the Industrial, Larson/ That probably makes more senso, fjust don't want seven years to go by In the interim like last lime. Kubby/ You mean to proteclthe commercial zones and rosldonlial zones, thon go back and rothlnk this, Nov.l Yos, I would like to approve this before we consider, I/orow/ There Is a molion on the floor, Do you need a roll call. Allin ravor, opposod- It's been accepled, I, I' i , ; i - , . , - , [I rl '~I .,-, ," Agonda Iowl ClIy CIIy Councll Rogul81 Councll MooUng Docombor 11, 1900 Pago 5 AclJon: Consldor an ordlnanco amondlng tho Zoning Ordlnanco by condl. Uonally changing tho use rogulaUons of approxlmltoly 168 aeros of lend gonorally Iocatod north 01 Molroso Avonuo and wost 01 proporty ownod by tho Unlvel1lty of Iowa from 10.RS to OPOH.I, a prollmlnary plannod dovolopmont houllng plan for Walnut Ridge. (Z-8915 & s. 69431 (Socond consldorlUon) O. Commont: At Its FobruOl'f 15, 1990 mooUng. by 0 voto 016-1, (Hobort voUng no), tho Planning and Zoning Commission rocom. mondod approval of this rezoning roquost to onablo dovolopmont of o 1 04.lotslnglo.famlly rosldonUal subdMslon. this rocommondaUon was sUbJoct to oxtonslon of tho munlclpal sanltOl'f sowor from the Hawkoyo 11ft staUon to tho proJoct slto. Tho Commission also rocom. mondod, by 0 volo 01 6-1 (Scott voUng no), that tho City advanco tho cost of this sowor oxtonslon, with saId costs to bo allOCOlod on 0 por eero bosls with the aNoctod potUos paying tholr eh8lo as dovolop. mont occurl, Tho munlclpaJ senltary sowor will bo oxtendod to tho proJoct lito. Commonts rog8ldlng this Itom wero rocolvod by tho Council It tho Octobor 2, 16, 30, and Novombor 13, 1990, publlo h08llngs. reA.--.I I .4w, ( )~, Jft,Q "vi? ~) -K~. ~ In e D AAu..t Ii '. ii a [I rl '~I 8 ' - '4c page I Ilorow/Moved by Larson. seconded by Ambr, Discussion- ~ubby/I am golnR 10 be voUnR ror lhls because because I want lhls land to bo zoned OPDlH But I disagree strongly with advancing tho cost or lhe sewer eltension. And during the general obllgallon vote which Is a substanUal porUon or that G.O. bond Is Cor this project is where I Ceel It Is important ror me to vote no to voice my objection. Ilorow/ Any other dl~cu"lon. Roll call- Okay, , 1 ' ;1 It 1\ 1\ I; . II I Iii , " I I , I i ! I I I I i i' i i . . , , J .. , ' , . . rl rl ~::, ,cl , - - Agonda Iowl City City Councfl Rogu/OI Council MooUng Docombor II, 1990 Plgo 6 d. Consldor en ordlnoneo emOndlng tho Zoning Ordlnanco by COndJ. Uonally changing tho usa rogulaUonl of Ipproidmatoly 43.8 acrol locotod In tho 10uthoOSl qUldrenl of tho IntorsOCUon of Molroso Avonuo end Highway 218 from ID.RS 10 RS.S. (Z.9014) (Socond ConsldoraUon) Commonl: Alita mooUng 01 Octobor 4, 1990, tho Planning end Zoning Commlselon rocommondod, by I voto of 4.0.1 (CIOIk abstain. Ing), Ipproval 01 0 roquosl submlttod by Oevo Cahill for I zono chango lor Ipproxfmatoly 43,S IcrOS IOCOlod In tho southoast qUldrent 01 tho InlersOCUon of Molroso Avonuo end Highway 218 from 10.RS 10 RS-S lubJoct to tho following condlUons: 1) dodlcaUon 01 6 acro. 01 lultob/o opon .paco within tho proposod tract known IS the Cole FOIm consisting of 125 ocros moro or loss, end 21 tho undorslandlng thalthl. la an oul-ol'loquonco dovolopmonl as Is currently dannod In the Comprehonslve Plen. This rocommondaUon Is not conslstonl with tho Stl" rocommonda. tlon In I roport dalod Soptombor 20, 1990; tho slall rocommondod thlt 0 minimum of 2.75 ocros 01 tho dodlcalod opon spoco bo contrally localod land which hiS lopogrlphlo chorlctorlstlca that will allow the dovolopmont of 0 nolghborhood playground, The POIks and RocrooUon Commission rocommendod that three or moro acres of pOlklend bo provided In a centrallocaUon and thai the 8100 10 bo dodlcatod meoltho criteria for a nolghborhood park os spoclRod In tho IIl85 Nolghborhood Opon Space Plan. Tho ordlnonco boloro tho City Council aupports the Commission', rocommondoUon, nol tho stall'a or POIkl and Rocrootlon Commlsslon'l. No commonls woro rocolvod atlho Octobor 30 or Novombor 13, 1990, publlo hoar. Inga on this 110m. Action: .A:uJ / CH.J'" j,l~ e /J If ( V J,.1/ 1//;;') ~~ (rL'D ~.J' - 1 [I rl 'j LI ' t] ~, '4d page 1 1I0row/ Moved by Ambr.. seconded by Courlney. Any Discussion, I:ubby/I wantcd to make a comment obOUI condiUonal ' I. lIere it says 'sultablc open spacc.' (think Ihallhat word Is fine meplln our-In Ihis particular case that word suilable has a very specific deflnlUon Ihatl Ceel we need more discussion on. Ilhlnk In the ruturo II would be helpful to me If we have words like 'suitable' which appear 10 be very vague, that during the platting process Ihere Is negollallon and discussion aboullhe opUons, That's not Ihe case here, (Ihlnk Ihal 'suitable' needs 10 be more clearly defined. I would like In Ihe CUlure nOlto use such vague terms when ills really not so. 1I0rowl Any other discussion. Roll call. Okay, it has beon accepled, I i ;! , ,. i j. 'I I. 1 'I 'I, f / , I i I I j , I i , ! i' I I . i I I ! I I I -" fl [I, rl LI . I' . }'-- Agondo Iowa City City Council Rogular Councll MooUng Docombor II, 1990 pego 7 ITEM NO.5- PUBUC DISCUS&ION, k 1tt:,) ITEM NO, 8, CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION, .-b~ J fir;,) I ITEM NO.7, REPORT ON ITEMS FROM THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY. a. City Menagor, (.Jw cU~~.u t" tr J1...:.uw) hh ;/1:'.1/ ,0 rl r,' Lit-' ;:, . .~ palle I lIoro," / Public discussion.. Jim Mulac/ 527 Clark, I am happy 10 be here tonighl representing the skateboard community or Iowa City. In regard 10 a roclllty that we would like to Vo'ork with the city. realizing thaI it Vo'ould be a recreational raclllly that Iowa City Vo'ould eventually be very proud to have in this community, Inllially though I want to give you a Iillle bit or brier bac~ground on skateboarding, The past decade if nOllonger skaleboarding has become Increasingly a major national sport Particularly In the coastal area, BUl now all over the country Skateboarding has become a sport that has very highly evolved skills that Involve the athleles and technlC3 over c very long period or time. Ramp skating has its own set or technics as well as what is called street Skating which Involves a combination or acrobatic and sometimes choreographic technics. Wnlch in skateboarding competitions re judged just as you would judge acroballc events or hillhly s~llIed alhletlc evenls, In some partS or the counlry there are already very high tech and very highly involved skateboarding parks and skateboarding facilities where they have competitions, Skateboarding demonstrations, They are actually very popUlar ovents and cvonts that in many cases arc sourcos oC rovcnuos Cor munlclpalltlcs as '10'011 as Cor private Intercsts. Tho skateboard community In Iowa City has had a dirrlcull relationship with Iowa City I think, to a degree, they haven't addressed each other very clearly s to what tholr needs aro. Obviously, no one wants to got run over by a skateboard when walking out or a doorway and walking down a sidewalk. We all know that skateboarding is potentially dangerous sport In which you could Call down and broak your arm or leg, Your skateboard could fly out In rront or a car and causo a serious accldonl. It can bo and somotlmos Is a hazardous pastime. Nono tho loss, bicycling Is also a potenllally hazardous paslime, Coolball is certainly a hazardous pastime, American lire Is Cull of hazardous pastimes which we are Involved In every day, Faclls this is one or tho prlCils that skateboarders are willing to take Cor the sportltselr, The pride, technic and tho satisfaction the sport gives them, Currently Iowa City has very strict rostrlctlons to where skateboards can bo used, Most or them aro protly lusllfled, Particularly using skatoboards In tho downtown aroas and many other parts or the city whero skaleboards are restrlcled. Nono tho less the community has hundreds or young kids that are skateboarding as much as they possibly can during the warm months of lho year, There are currontly lhree If not more national magazines thaI deal with skateboarding thaI are available at - tJ. [I rl Y .-=(. .: '5 page 2 drug 'lore,. There are IWo skaleboard lelevlsion show, Ihal are on weekly. Skaleboarding i, here 10 Slay, illS nol ,omelhing thai i, going 10 go away in a year a IWO. II really I' a ,porllhalis here permanently and probably one Ihal v.'lII be Included In Iho compelilivo sporls as a pOlenlial Olympic evenl in year, 10 como, I really don'l feellhallhal is an euggeralion, Because of Ihe technic, involved wllh skaleboardlng are very high degree athlelic skills Thai being the ca,e, Whal we have 10 do is find someway Ihal skateboarder, can develop lheir skill" can praclice Ihelr sport and recrealion with skaleboardingin a Icgilimale way. As III' now.lhey have been ,kaleboardlng around Ihe edges oC Iho pollee depl, ror Ihe la,lsoveral years, Running Crom open parking 10110 anolher and one place where Ihoy can skalo ror IS minute, wllhoullho Univer,ily poliCl! Showing up, II has been basically developed Inlo an outlaw paslime, Which I don 'I think il ever wanled 10 be. Whatlhey would like 10 do i, have a raclllty they could use thaI would be de,lgned Cor the purpose or really doing their sport In a sall,rylng way. There is a couple way' we could go wilh this. One argument ha, been made that the cily should really have any responsibility In this and that private ~nterprl,o should take over. Ir It Is a proCltablo sport there should be a v.'ay that private Interest should sallsry this need ror a skateboard Caclllty, It is very true that there are privale skateboard parks, There Is one In Davenport called Rampage which Is a relallvely popUlar skateboard park. It is an Indoor park, It Is a year around park, The only problem I, that II's owned privately and It Is meant to be a profit maklnglnslltullon, And because It is In a big enough communily In the Quad Clllos, It Is able to generate enough business amongst a ralrly arrJuonlgroup oC skatoboardors to keep ilSelC going. In fact, if you go skate altho Rampago ~ato Park In Davenport, It costs $7.50 overy time you go. If you are a member then the fee Is somewhat reduced, you skate ror $4 or $5, That kind of feo Is one that you ave.lr. high kid Is not going to bo able 10 arford very orten, I now a number of kids In Iowa Cily who go to Rampago occasionally when they can arCord it, Which Is two or three limes a year, What we really need 10 have Is a Caclllty like a swimming pool. ^ public raclllly designed not to be a profit making Institullon but ono that could be a public Caclllty that skateboarders could use and pay a user ree, But one that could be a modest Cee or a $ I or something close to that thai they could arrord, That a jr, high who has a paper routo or odd jobs could arrord a modoSl skateboard park fee on a dally basis in order 10 praclico tholr skaloboardlng, Which Is somolhlng these kids wan I to do on a -0 ff'rl LI ,LI . '5 page 3 dally basts, I have some materials I want 10 give to the city clerk lhal are from A mes The CllY of A mes went through lhe same prOCllss thaI Iowa CilY has gone lhrough wllh Inllially banning skaleboardlng rrom downtown and lrylng 10 Imagine lhat skaleboardlng Is going 10 go away, And then finally came 10 a much more construclive relalionshlp and they recognized that skateboarding 15 a valuable good SPOI. And they decided to work wllh Ihe community. skateboarders. and other volunteer groups In lhe communlly to do a very nice skateboard park, There is 0 protolype skate board park In Fort Wayne, Indiana Ihatl have designs here ror and II gives very detailed account oC what some or tho costs are. what the designs are that would evolve In doing a really first class Caclllly. Obviously this Is something that would cost some money, Courtney/How much money, Mulac/ There are, The Fori Wayne faelllly and this doesn't have to be the same by any means. I would say $80,000, This would be a racllllY that would have a Cull sized half piped ramp, II would have a mini ramp for those at an intermediate level oC ramp skaling. And would have an area or street rurnllure where you would have street skaling type racllllies. Pipe railings, steps, curbings, banks, things that skaters ean cnjoy Cor street skaling, Wc havo local skators here who arc already coming up with designs Cor this phase or the park, What happened In Ames, the Kiwanis Club got very involved wllh this in Cund raising and reduced some oC the costs ror the city, Therc Is every reason to believe that In Iowa City you can find volunteer groups...that would want 10 come out Cor Ihls, That could be Involved In Cund raising to puttogother what would finally be a rull scale Caclllty. Out ono thaI wouldn't necessarily havo to cost tho city a tromondous amount other than somo Inlllal ercavatlng and modost orpenso than the Cull price. Courtney/Indoor or outdoor? Mulae/ This would be an outdoor facllllY. One that would'be used on a seasonal basis during tho mild months or the year, That Is really lhe same situation thai they have In Fori Wayne. Larson/ Do you have any Inrormallon on how much liability Insurance they carry and how much that would cost, Mulae/I do have some InCormalion here In this materials thaI I am gOing to bo prosenling.Thero Is dIrferont ways that they havc gono with tho liability problem, It Is a problem. They do however have a schedule or the actual risks of Injury that are Involved In skateboarding In terms of how lhey compare with other sports, Delleve II or not,lC they ..---..... 0"[/ fl Y J C, .. '5 page ~ use proper sarelY equipmenl in a conlrolled situallon. s~aleboardlng turns out to be much less dangerous than- Larson/ltls really kind or a threshold type question ror me, One broken nec~ and sevoral million dollars or liability ror a city wlpos out tho whole Idea Cor me, I lust can't Imaglno getting past thaI. I don't know what the Insurance people say the odds are but that Is would be !omethlng I would have to resolve berore I can even look at it. That shuts down-the City Is self Insured to a large ellent, We would have to have a policy 10 cover lust this one slluatlon. I can'tlmaglne having enough customers and being able to charge enough just to cover the premiums, Nov.ll am concerned about staffing II. Would tho Incomo bring In enough money to pay ror tho slafL Mulac/ There Is two ways you can get Income. One way or course is simply to have your user ree on a dally basis ror the skaleboard, Iowa ClIY, because or as big as community Ills and Is a high trarrlc communllY, has had a more rigorous enCorcement or lIS reslriclions than many or Ihe other oUlllning communities, Muscatine, Washington, W, Liberty. some of Ihe oullylng towns have a much looser slluallon ror people. Consequenlly Ihey have a higher percentage or people who are skaleboarders Ihan Iowa City does. Thoso are howover smaller lowns and a full scale skateboard park is probably not very likely. But what Is likely Is thai If Iowa ClIy has a really nice skaleboard park, you can have skalers come In Crom W. Liberty, Washinglon, Mt, Vernon, Crom other communllles thai wlll enhance the skaleboarders thai are already in Iowa City. Nollo menUon Ihe raclIhalIt would bring other business Iraffic In 10 this community. Kubby / If we were going 10 look Inlo this Issue, Ihe firsllhlng wo would do is ask Parks and Rec 10 take a look aliI. Whether or not city council majorllyor minority are interested in pursuing this Issue, lC you are Inleresled In pursuing Ihls Issue. I encourage you to go dlreclly 10 Parks and Rec, to discuss il al Ihal level, Becauso It will ond up gelling back there and coming Ihrough Ihal way anyway, Larson/ We can'l slllhrough alllhese Inrormationallhlngs and thai Is whal Iho Boards and Commissions should do. I toll you, pu oro going 10 have 10 give Ihem chapler and verse on liabllilY ror mo because Ills ono thing Cor a prlvalo enterprise 10 decldo Ihat I'm going to pay insurance and If I have a billion dollar claim agalnsl me Ilusl go bankrupl and gel oul or here, Ills anolher Ihlng 10 pledge Ihe larpayers Slance behind lhls. ,0, [I ' rl. LI b. ___ '5 page 5 Mulac/I have some informallon rrom a vartety of dirrerentlechnics that are being used 10 deal with the liability problem. Ames. fort Wayne. This Is deHnltely a concern but ills ono that hilS been deal with and I think one that doosn't have to bo an obstaclo that v.'ould have 10 shUl down, 1I0row/1 wonder If our city manager could schedule you to meet with lhe neXl Parks and Rec meellng, ~aren's point Is well made, It Is going to havo to come through lhat route. Mulac/ This Is my Hrst stab 01 trying to nand up 10 this, I may have come to the wrong placo first. Larson/I don't mean to discourage you al all. I am jusltrylnllto warn you that these are some oC the considerations thaI we ought to take very seriously. ~ubby/ Which is helprul to you because you know what kind or Inrormation we are going to be aSking ror, Courtney/I have a Cew builtin prejudices agalnsl skateboarding because I work downtown and I have gOllen run over several limes and I have watched them work on our street Curnlture down there. I also have some very strong builtin prejudices Cor children, I was about 10 bring up tho samo thing. This really should be cycled through Parks and Rec. Should ho have somo sort oC meeting wllh the Director flrsl beCore going to a Commission meeting a laylngil out. So It can be scheduled and Ihlngs be put In their packet so thai they can, I think Terry can guide him through a meeting rather than lusl showing up al a meeting, Atkins/ GoI a packel of InCormallon, Courlney/ It Is obviously a Ceaslblo idea because it Is being done In olher placos. It can bo done. II noeds 0101 of work to gol thore. ~ubbyl $80,000 and lusl to do excavation, thai's a low Hguro. Mulac/llls going 10 vary rrom one place 10 onolher. BUllf we use this as a general figure, This Is nOI a Cac11l1Y thai would have to be all In one season, Ono possibllllY Is 10 design ale a reasonable sight thai could be developed. Then do Ihe Slreel skallng phase or It In Ihe firs I year wllh volunteer rund ralslng,..clty could volunleer some excavallng labor, possibly some malerlals, Where we could sharo the burden, Atkins/ Tho city doosn't volunteer, we havo 10 pay our employees to do that, Courlnoy/ You have somo good Ideas liS rar liS gelling somo or Ihe service organizations involved along Ihe way Cor Cundlng and volunteer work, Frankly, I would do aboulllnylhlng if you can guaranlee me thallhey will Slay out of the plp.Ia, - I il L. a [I n LI .,-" ,'.' '5 page 6 AIkins/ Jim. have your name. address. and lelephone number nelllo II, I'll gel II 10 Terry and we will gel iI arranged and be In louch wllh Jim 10 gel iI scheduled, ':ubby / Aro you guys in Ihe back skaleboarders, Are you alllnlereSled in pUllinglome lime and energy Inlo Cund railing or working, Mulac/ We could gel some labor rrom lhe skaleboarders.. ':ubby/ Are Ihere muny female skaleboarders, Maybo Sue could learn. Courlney/ BOlh or my boys have skaleboards, So I see Ihem go up and down my sidewalk, Aikins/ Should go to Ihe Clerk. she can receive Ihe Informalion, We will sorl il and seo Ihallho Parks and Rec Commission, If you need any back lust make a nOle on II for UI, 1I0row / Thank you very 01 uch, ':ubby/ Thanks ror coming down you guys, Linda Halon/I would Iiko 10 lalk aboul skatllboardlng also and address a rew polnls Ihal you raised tonighl. The firsl one Is a broken neck. ThaI's a common misconception aboul skaleboardlng Ihalls very dangerous, When il did come oUlln Ihe 60's, the materials that were used were nOI as smooth and durable lIS, Cor mmple, tho wheel are loday. So tho conslruction or tho board ItselC lIS '10'011 as tho addillon of knee pads, elbow pads and helmets do make Ihe sport a 101 safer Ihan in years pasl. As far as the Parks Dcpl., on Feb. 14 or Ihis year, my son and I did address Ihal body reo a desire ror a skateboarding park. Since none or you have ever heard Ihal. It apparentiy didn't get passed on. That's where it has been, It has been Introduced and during thai week, Mr. Trueblood had gone to Washington, D.C. to a meoting oC tho hoads oC parks boards, lie came back wilh InCormation Ihallhls Is something that is being done around the country. It Is an Issue Ihal people are having 10 address because kids wanllt. So hoperully, by going back 10 them with more Inrormation, it will gel around 10 really being discussed and addressed In Ihls city, NOI only Iowa City bUI Durant and olher cilles they sure lell you where you ~an'l skaleboard. BUllhey don'l tell you a 101 or places Ihal you can, Kids rcally don'l wanllo go ouuldo thclr houses and skotcboard. Thai Is nOllhe Idea but. So IC we don'l wanllo see people down on the plaza Ijusllhlnk give Ihem a place 10 go, I'm prelty sure Ihose kids '10'11I be allhe skaleboardlng park. An interesling way 10 go aboullt and an importanl way Is 10 Incorporate a comeraderle belween these kids and also a posllive no drug and alcohol policy and give Ihem a posillve way 10 use all or Ihat energy, I agree wllh Mr. Mulac Ihalllis t " I - ,.J .. r-rl rl L..I FI . - 'S page 7 a sporl, II develops nol only lheir personal coordinallon bUI self confidence A JOI 0( kJds aren't greal alleao cporlS or else they don't gellhe opporlunfly lr Ihey don'l play, I havt: .c:en lhal rrom Ihe lowelllevel oC a kid on a skale board and alllhe way up, Ihe rour yr, olds look up 10 Ihe elghl yr, olds, and tho elghl yr, olds look UplO Ihe Ir, high ones and Ihal is good, The older ones have a role model and have a position 10 sel ror Ihe younger kids, II can be laken and Iifled up 10 a higher levellhan Ihe streel kids on skaleboards Ihal gel In Irouble and gel hurl. IIopeCully Ihal would bo Ihe way Ihal we would go oboUI II. As Car os slarring. Ihere is nOl a lot once Ills builllhol has 10 be kepi up on upkeep. Evenlually we would like an Indoor pork, For now the kids lUll need a placo 10 go. Nov.l We are lalklng aboul somebody who Is gOing 10 sfllhere allhe gale and collecl money, Ealon/ Just like Ihe people downslalrs Ihallake your dollar, Nov.l We do Ihls al Cfly Park Pool. Cor eumple, DUI we gel several hundred people a day coming In wflh Ihelr dollar. 'don'l know IC Ihls Is going 10 be possible 10 juslify Ihe npense Ih~lll would lake. Ealon/I can seo Ihal concern. DUll think Ihal there are a larger populallon Ihan you might believe. And once they are given a placo 10 skale, Ihere '10'111 be moro, Nov.l We are willing 10 be convlncod, Larson/ The dlrrerence between when you go 10 Parks and Reo and when we send someone 10 Ihem, Ihey have 10 give us some kind or answer. We '10'11I gel somelhlng back Crom them, Ealon/It is nollike It has never been addressed, A year beCore this some 18 yr. old did address Ihem 100. Mr. Trueblood seemed open 10 the Idea. OC courso, It's a low figure, Ihls S80,OOO. My research was moro In Iho aroa oC a S 150,000 Indoor park. II might even bo possiblo 10 gOI a vacant warehouse somewhere. II Ihe mean lime Ir the kids jusI has a slab oC cement and some things, Llabilfly Insuranco Is the biggest road block. Whal are you going to do downstairs Ir someono breaks Ihelr neck diving, There Is always thaI posslbilfly. IC Ihey were encouraged or had 10 use the safelY equlpmonl pads, thai would be educallon for lhem...lhal would be Iho way 10 go 10 mlnimlzo Injuries. Kubby/ Do you know IC Rampage In Davonport require people 10 wear saCelY gear, Audience/ (can'l hear) Nc Kubby/ That might be good 10 know, rr olher skaleboard rinks require thaI. 'nCormallon Ihal mlghl be helpCullo mo Is gOing 10 thoso oullylng communllles and saying how many, doing some kind of survey, 110'10' a [I', t1' LI .cl . " .~ pagr ~ many skaleboarders are lhere, Whal would be the amounl you could arrord 10 pay, Ealon/ People rrom Iowa CllY do go 10 Davenporllo sKale, Thai Is quile a distance, Orlan Gelling/I have been skaling ror 1'10'0 years, One r Ihe Ihlngs aboUI lIabllily, We have Ihe Doy Scouts behind us and we are going 10 gel a hold or Ihe Iowa Cily Boy Scou\S and they are wllllnR 10 give us a million dollar, lIabHllY coverage ir we Ius\. The racully or the people running il are lust going 10 have 10 loin Ihe Boy SCOUl,. They don'l have to go to all the meellngs or anylhing, They IUSl have to every so orten hold 0 beneril at Ihe park or somelhlng ror somelhlng lhallhe boy scouts ore Irylng 10 accomplish. Courtney / Which troop is sponsoring lhls, Gelling/ All or them. We have 10 lalk 10 Ihem, The one in Waverly said Ihey would do II Cor lhe Waterloo SKate park. They gave us Inrormatlon. There are skaleboardlng Iroops in dlrrerenl alales, Courlney/ Talking aboUI Cormlng a Iroop or your own, I can't see all oC 'he troops In town agreeing on this, Gelling/I am sure Ihey would. I don 'I know iC ills a national Boy SeOUl thing. Courtneyl A troop or your own makes sense, Gelling/ Also, the thing aboul running II. There are 0 lot or skaleboarders or working age thaI could work there, There has to be someone supervising It butlhere are a 101 or skateboarders thai are Willing 10 give up their time to work there...We were Ihlnklng Ihat S80,OOO was prelly high. I don'l know where Ihal was, The one thai he was talking about. Yours Is oUldoors, hers is Indoor, The one he Is lalklng about has a 44 fool wido 10 rool vert. ramp, Which Is hugo, I don't think there Is many people In Iowa City that Is going to bo using one or Ihose, Ir Ihey really wanllO, Ihey con go up 10 Davenporllo use Ihelrs, We ore really asking ror Is cemenl sturr that would be dlrCerent 10 a 101 or SIUrr around here because lhere Is nOl a 101 or cement. Whal we ,kale around town. like Ihe plaza and all the Olher places Is more cemenl ,IUrC Ihal we have been able 10 uso. We jU,1 want cemenl slurr and melal Sluff thai '10'11I go like Ihal, Like bike racks, old blko racks and cement Isn't real expensive, The Ihlng abOUl wood Is that you have to reply the ramps overy so orten because the plywood wears out. Rampage just did Ihat. That cosllhem about S500 10 reply all or Ihelr ramps, We really wouldn'l have to do Ihal Wllh a cemenl skale park, Also. the skateboarding In lown we have been going back and forth between Ihe UnlversllY and the CilY, If we , " a [f' n .s n . .~ page 9 ?el caught. Usually we ask lhem lI'here lI'e can skale if 11'0 get caught and they say. I have had the Iowa CilY pollee say go to the Unlversily We can't do anything there We go to the University and lhey say go to the 10'1"0 Clly..,they go back and rOrlh...Universily is just gelling skateboard banned..,a 101 easier Cor the city I am prell)' sure the clly's fine for skateboarding Is around S 1 00, II is not near as what it is ror the Universlly. The UniversilY is really bad They do a lot when they catch you, I know or 200 skateboarders around Walerloo, At least 0 couple hundred around here and 0 couple hundred In Muscatlne and a lot In N. Liberty and IIl11s and all or those places, Thoy'd come.., Jlorow /lIow would they get here. ~lting/ Same way they 8etto any other place 10 skate, A 101 or kids come to Iowa City lust to skale the sturr in lhe street. Larson/ We encourage you to Slay in contact with Jim and gel something arranged wilh the head or Recreation, Bring up all these details... Jlorow / Anyone else who would like to address council. Dan eorCey /1 am not a skateboarder nor do J have any veSled interested In It. lam a parenl. I would like to urge support to throw their weight bohlnd It rather than to walch them do alllho work. I think i1is easy ror us to turn our children Into criminals by saying something Is Illegal, BUllr we don't really forceCully toke aCllon and Integrate them Inlo society we lose them. And then lhey show up someplace else, If we start turning our children Into criminals althe age or 12 we should not be surprise Ir at the age or 18 they aren't cooperating with the rest or whal we ask of them. We as adults should take the Initiative and not elpectthem to do it ror us. lam nOl sure thaI Parks and Rec, will oponly welcome something thaI might not mako the monoy or something that might be more work Cor them, As the adults In this com munily, we should throw our weight behind making sure that something thatls nOl just a sport bUlactually allreslyle for a certain segment or the populous, We should keep lhese people in our society and nol make them criminals. Jlorow/I am going to II mil this, If asked all those In ravor oC a skateboard park In back I would get qulle a number or hands. Including some or the cameramen, Ilhink that I would like 10 close on this Issue. Is there anyone else who has something to bring to council that Is not on the agenda, Anna Wagner/I am kind or warn down aHer listening 10 everyone else, I do want to lalk a IIl1le bit, My name is Anna Wagner, In my role as a private citizen I would use this public access tonight. 'lhlnk I will n -' '~;- \ - -t,..~t,. J I, 5 ,~::' I. . .. · 5 page I U iustlal~ about my maIO concern It has 10 do wllh housing, /Iere again. I am doing this as a private cilizen tonlgh\. Specifically, why IS It that singe people, lhalls those alone without ramllies, arc dcnied housing vouchers here In lo\\'a City The program I am rererrlng to Is in the IIUD program book, page 14. In lhal program IIUD uses the word ramlly and one or my quesllons is is a ramlly onc person or no\. AI whallevells that decision made, Locally or allhe nallonalllUD headquarters And can or will the clly do anything to remedy the siluallon soon, Do we have to ta~e ,ome other acllon which I will discuss in a minule. I can add too that there was a hearing and this concern is nol mine alone, Several people and agenCies menlloned, I can also add reasons why this Is a doslrable thing. /Ioro\\'/ Was this addressed 01 the Afrordable 1I0uslng Task Force, Wagner/ Yes. II has been, Several limes. AIkins/ You have to understand Ihal Ann has raised the Issue allhe Tas~ Force and that is one or many many issues Ihat have 10 be addressed, In Chairing lhe Task Force. At leasl the way I have been conducllng myself and the Task Force seemed to be accepting of lhat is lhat we are nOl going to take a scalier gun approach. We need 10 hear overy body out and gel ovorylhlng down, Pack ago somolhlng togolhor and getlhe Task Force educated and get tho InCormalion back. Anna, with all due respecllo you presenling II here. We are really nOlln a position to solve Issue by Issue, It Is much much more complex than Ihal, Wagner/ ThaI's why I am here. okay. I don'llhlnk Ills because IIUD or the City Is dlscrlmlnallng agalnsl singles. There Is a partin lhe back or IIUD thai says who they want to dlscrlmlnale agalnsl and who they don't. They don't have anylhlng about family Sial us In here, They havo Ihlngs IIko race, color, nallonal origin, handicap, ago or sex. Then Ihere Is a senlence lhal says IIUD delermlnes to Ihe eltenlto which lIS programs comply with Cederallaws forbidding dlscrlmlnallon In all federally runded acllvllles, Which sounds like Ihe fOI keeping the hen house 10 me, I do Ceelllke it Is discrimination. This is why I am In Cronl of the council and I am on pUblic television, I don 'I think we have to spend sll months talking about other things to look at this issuo. That Is why I am-I am nol hero as a momber or the Task Force, I am a private cllizen and I guess and others hm lalked aboutlhls In lerms or a class aCllon suit. If Ihatls whalll lakes agalnstllUD, BUll wanllo come here first and see thalli's not a local problem. I guess Is whal I'm saying. 10 put my mds on Ihe table, Nov.lls it a local problem. - - , 0 :~, [I n 5. j=/ --,' I · 5 page II ~ubby /11 is a national problem Nov.lllave people walked in and been denied locally ~ubby/ We have dlscuuod this on CCN and ~'e have had 1I p.h. on an Issue II is discriminatory, And illS national discrimination. Where lIun regulations say In the voucher certificate program. unle~s you are elderly or hllndlcapped, singles lire notllllowed 10 parllcipale In the program. There Is one meptlon lInd that Is il is up the the c!.IY's discretion thaI you can choose not 10 discriminate IC you wanlto Ir CIIANGI: TAPE TO REEL 90-10 I, SIDE I Kubby/ aparlment. And you can't be living there at the time or rehab and you can get displaced and the clly can decide as a policy whelher or nor singles '10'111 be allowed to gellhose vouchers. The City or Iowa City chose not to allow 10 singles. unless they are handicapped or elderly to gellhose vouchers. So there Is only one secllon In tho luw that allows us to be loss reslrlcllve than lIun and we have chosen not to. Larson/II mlsostatOltho .lIuation to call It discrimination, MOil peoplo think of discrimination as being choices based upon those kinds or classification that you listed. The constitutionally protected classifications. II is a prlorllY choosing type syslem that has a dICreront Impact on IC you aro In a ramlly or no\. But that Is based on a broad policy decision that these programs are design to help Camllles, not to help single people. Now that policy decision can be disagreed wllh and that can be a moiler ror a local entity to disagree with or not, I think it skews tho debate a IIl1le bit to say that It Is discriminating against slnglo peoplo. II is Choosing to sorvo a dlrCeront group. I don't think that Is what people think or when lhey think or the word discrimination, Wagnerl That may not be, BUllr you are on the bOllom or lho economic ladder, I would like to call II heap. I would like to look at II a IIl1le bit dlrCerently. LeI me point something out hero, too. It docs talk about ellgiblllly IC more than hair or the Income gocs to rent. In an area such as Iowa Clly, Wilh low wago lobs and high ront, It Is more IIkoly that a person would pay closer to 50\ or income ror rent rather than tho tradlllonally desirable 25\ or 30\. This slluation around here can generate a person Into poverty, Juslto keep up with the rents. Ills a problem, I think Ills a problem in other places 10, I guess I am coming hero to look ror dlreclion because I dldn'lthlnk it was a local , ij . j a[1 rL, 5 .::, " .i ,'. · 5 Ilagc 12 problcm. BUlllhink illS a problem and 10 my mind, Ilhink illS dlScrimmalory Smgle people can be poor 100 and we can wmd Ull under a bridgc 100 I gue" I am asking where do we go with ii, Do \\'e go \\'ilh a elm aClion SUII Do we go wilh Larson/I have 10 agree \\'ilh our ell)' manager...lhal conslanll)' Cor years we have been bombarded wilh housing queslions and housing issues We fell like we had no way or gelling a handle on iI They are so inlerrelaled and so com pie I and Ihere is no consensus on whal Is Ihe housing problem We decided we were going 10 handle II with Ihe housing task rorce, There are 25 issues Iuslllke yours Ihal mighl be suseeplible loaclion, BUI every aclion we look on each individual issue would have consequences with regard 10 the olher issues, I guess we all boughl in 10 Ihe Idea Ihallers gel the recommendalions and wisdom of Ihe Task force berore we address Ihese Individual items. (am nol willing 10 back away rrom Ihal yel (Ihink we need 10 lellhe Task force work. Thai would be my prererenee, IIorow/ for Ihe lime being we have delermined 10 go wilh Ihe Task foree and take Ihe i1ems as Ihey can gellaken care or. Ambr.ll Ceel exaclly Ihe same way. I bought Inlo Ihe concepl or Ihe MCordablo /lousing Task forco evon 10 Ihe polnl where we did nol reject one applicant. Because I dldn'l wanllo be put In Ihal posillon or dlscrlmlnallng agalnsl one person or a person represenling any Individual group. Or any view point. So I Ceel we have done a slerllng job oC appolnllng Ihe right kinds or people and Inslilulions 10 Ihat lask Coree. I am willing 10 IIslen 10 all polnls or view Ihal comes through Ihe proper condull which will be Ihe end result. Larson/ We discussed Ihls very issue, The derlnilion of a Camlly and ellglbllilY and ralher if flUD Is going to have Ihelr derlnllion whelher we have 10 have olher programs ror singles and Ihlngs like Ihat. IluSl don'llhlnk Ihls body Is Ihe place 10 Slarllhose kinds or solulions when we have already slarled this Olher mechanism, Wogner/I feel like, again, been side Slepped To be real honeSl aboUllhls, Larson/ Why do you reel like you cannol bring your concerns 10 Ihe lask Coree, Wagner/ Because I have several limes and Ihey keep gelling side stepped, Larson/ BUI you don'l know IC your concerns will be ombodled In lhoir recommendalions 10 us Cor whal aclion we should lake or whal avenues we should consider as solulions, Maybe lhey are side stepping you, ( don'l knnw. Wagner/I am probably Impalienlperson because Ihis Is rig hi on my door slep, I am a poverly person, Maybe one paycheck and I could lose -- . . ~ [I rl .5 .L,. '5 page.K'13 my home and be homeless I don'tlnllw what Mr Ambrlsco's com menlS were directed toward about lelling everybody be on the task rorcc lhat wanled to be on II. If they were directed 01 me or nOl J don't think anybody did me a big ravor by-J am a member or the Task Force, Ambrll thought we did you a favor by appOinting you because If we hm gone lhrou~h and made our Individual selecllons. The normal Idea Is to appoinl a commission or a finite group of people, We have nine one some, five on olhers. seven on some, Everybody thaI showed an interested on the commission was appointed, Therefore. I feel your polnl or view, you have an equal opportunity to make your point through that bOdY, Wagner/ The point Is Is thaI you just said you thoughl )'OU did me a favor. Lorson/ All the members. not jusl you specifically, Ambr./It was unanimous, Wagner/I don't Ceel as tough you did. I Ceel as though lam talking alone on some oC these poverty Issues In the com mlllee. 1I0row/ Out you are talking 01 the committee and your voice Is being heard, Which Is good. Wagner/It gels to be kind oC old, to be honost aboul it, I '10'111 say there are two other people that have complained to me thaI they don't like the dlreclion It Is going either, It seems to be directed more towards middle class Issues then the really poor. Horow/ Any task Coree has a right to come up with a minority opinion, Larson/ Once receive their InCormalion II will be up to us to take aclion, And you are rree to give us your Input and your Ideas and solulions at thaI poinl. We aro just saying that we can't jump Into the middle oC that procoss. Wo need InCormalion and Cacts to deal wllh. Putting the whole ling together in a lotal pack ago wllh some perspeclive to It Is what we asked Cor, Then we wlll be laking specific sleps and or cours~ ordinances, p.h, and all those kinds of lhlngs and you can reinvest your Inpul allhal poinllr you Ceelllke II was Ignored althe task Coree. A mbr./J will give you a gOOd mmple, Several years ago, when I was mayor, we appointed a financial sludles commission and the majorllY or councilaccopted and we adopted tho mlnorlly view, not lhe ma/orllY. And that Is whal we ran wilh, Wagner/J had beller say one ling right now, J am not crillclzlng the Task Force or the people 0 II. lam Just saying that J think you have to be atlhe bOllom level 10 understand what some or lhese problems are and they are desperate at thalleve!. I d01l'1 know If I wan I to wail ....... . .. - J I _ _ rl . rl 5' S . .' - '5 page MI+ one or two ycars 10 gClthis thing solvcd The other part Is thai we have an election coming up and. jack ~eOlP. See, or IIUD. loday he comes OUl with a bunch or RepUblican governors, I don'l Vlantlo gel political here butlers race II. They wanl reduction oC flUD in the capital gains tn ThaI Is the kind or thing that ups real estalo prices because people think up thaI as an inveSlment and thaI Is the kind or thing lhat hurlS poor people who renl or try to buy, This Is lhe same gUi' who J think Is discriminating againsl poor people. I think U all lies in...Thls Is an '89/90, ~ubby/ The policy has been instituted (or a long timc, Wagner/I am real rruSlraled Nov.l Am I correct to assume lhalthere Is nOlhlng lhal will help a slnglo person find a home. Is this voucher system the only thing available, Wagner/ That's not available either, Nov.l Is there something else available, Wagner/ No, ~ubby/ RentalllSSlstance Is very short term. So there are IImUed options Cor Single people, I/orowl We certainly have appreciated you bringing this to our allention. I think lhatthe council truly want to let the process to work It's way through tho people we havo appolnlod (or this AfCordablo /lousing Task Force. If your situation and those o( others constitute a mlnorit}' report, I think }'OU have adequately stated your case. I think that is somelhlng we '10'111 have to deal wlth In terms o( how we can help that, We can't take It OUt o( contelt o( the whole plclure right now, Wagner/ Can you tell me anything I can do as a private citizen. /lorowl Continue to be vocal. And ask (or a minority report that would be appondaged 10 the final recommendation, Wagner/ Thank you (or your time, Nov.l You can always try corruspondlng wUh the rederalgovernmenl. Wagner/ That Is the kind o( things I was gelting al....,Somebody made the comment 10 me thaI my bOSl deal would be to get married. That was a member C the Task Force, I (eltlhallhat was highly inappropriate. Gentry/ Anna. have you contacted either or the senators or congressmen in terms or. Wagner/I am slarllng on this, Gentryl I think any or them would be Interested In your views on how IIUD regulations might be changed or legislation, Wagner/ Thanks, Gentry/ Those namos would be listed In tho public library, Go to the public library, - II .! , . t]. '[I rl '.JS h. . ,~ page w/r 1I0ro':.'/ Anyone else ror public discussion, Chair Is going 10 call ror three mlnule recess. " 11 " .\ II , \ I I I , i i i I \ '1 I . J I ! , I I I '~\ I :1 , I \ I i I I I I ., , I I ;1' , TJ '[I rl S "-,, . '6 page I 1I0rowl Clly Councillnrormalion. Courlney /1 jusl wanled 10 Ilhink Ihal illS very seldom lhal our employees gol derendod Ilhink lhallhere IS only one group Ihal over comes 10 Iheir deronso and Ihal is Ihis body. II is said Ihallhero Is only Iwo Ihings suro in liCe and Ihalls lalos and doalh, Ilo~'a you can add a Ihlrd one and Ihal occasionally we will have a large snow Slorm, And II will be very dirrlculllO clear Ihe snow rrom Ihe downlown and Ihe resldenllalareas, We do have Iimiled equipment. We do have only so many people 10 do Ihe lob, Ilhlnk personally Ihal Ihis was an mellenllob done Ihls lime on clearing, To have enough equlpmenl and people available Cor Ihe largesl snow Slorm In rive years or sll years, II has been a long time since we have had one wllh Iho winds Ihal wo had Ihere and Iho amounl or sno~', I would suggost Ihe 181 outlay would nol be acceplable 10 Ihe lal payers and we would have a 101 more com menu aboul clly employees slandlng around doing nOlhlng all summer long wailing ror the snow slorm 10 come around in Ihe winler, Ilhink Ihal some or Ihe com menu made In Ihe newspaper and In particular a couple or downlown retail peQple were unlustlfled, I would suggest Ihat when they have sales In their stores and there Is upon occasion moro people show up to buy their shoes and leans than they can handle and they don 'I get waited on Immedlalely, They should take thai In to conslderallon when they start criticizing because the city doesn't get the lob done like they think. In a perrecl world Ilry 10 deal wllh lhe snow in my driveway In a perCect manner. I don't drive on It berore I go OUI wllh my shovel and/or snow blower to gel It orr. Decause once you drive on iI, iI packs it down. It packs It down to the point that you have to gel some sort or chip or a hoe or whatever to get It orr or the cement. I might suggest that In a perrect world we would ban all driving until we get Ihe Slreel clean. Decauso IC we did Ihallhen we could gel them down to bare concrete, As long as we only have Ihe equipment that we have, we are nol going 10 gel all or Ihese Slreeu clean berore people get oUI on them and drive on lhem, They are going to be rough and they are going to have rulS In Ihem, Ills IUSl going 10 happen, Ilusl Ihlnk Ihal occasionally we need 10 respond 10 some or Iheso com menU lhat are made publicly In the newspapers Ihal our omployees tend 10 take to hearl and think thatlhey are being crlllclzed, My laSI point is Ihat I think this body should lake a poslllon right now would be an inrormal vole or rormal vole Is whether we are going 10 dig rlre hydranl, OUl or snow drifts lhal are made on a regular basis, Ilhlnk Ihat person was being very unreasonable, Ilhlnk Ihalthe employee - . ~ , .t' .. tJ [I ..rl 5' A . '6 page 2 went oullo aClually do lhallob, il shouldn't happen again. We have 1,700 fire hydrants In Ihis lown Larson/I missed Ihls monumenlal argumenl, Courtney/ We had one clllzen who absolulely insisled Ihal CilY crews come oul and clear Ihe snow away rrom Ihe flro hydrant in rronl of their house, Larson/..,we are In Iowa and II snows Courtney/ Thai Is mclly my point EspeCially lhe first storm or Ihe year...1 Ihlnk Ihal somebody needs 10 give Ihe crews the credil thatlhey deserve. They work long hours Ihrough Ihe middle or Ihe nlghl going around parked cars Ihal never seem 10 gOI moved, Kubby/I would like 10 requesllhal afler the Inillal removal,lhal when Ihlngs sellle down and are a Iillle slower. Ihal 'I.'e go back. especially in highly populaled areas and remove snow rrom curb ramps, Ir you are in a wheel chair II Is really hard 10 gel around in Ihls lown, Courtney/ Thai Is Ihe responslbllllY or Ihe homeowner and we should enrorce Ihal. I live on a corner 101 and I have IWO curb ramps. one going each dlrecllon. I make sure Ihal they are clear no mailer how many times thoy come and plow It back In. I go down Ihere and clear II out. Ills the responsibility or the homeowner to do that. The same as ills the responslbllllY of Iho homeowner to shovel the snow away rrom Ihe fire hydrant. II is their properly and ilis their responsibility. Kubby/I want 10 encourage people who have curb ramps 10 shovel them out and Ihat everybody can have Iransportation around lown, Nov.llr we are going 10 say thallhen we have to say Ihal everybody should shovel their sidewalk, 1I0row/ LoIS race It Colks, that doesn'l happon, Nov.l Thoy should. Courlney/ People do shovellhelr sidewalks and thy do clear them out. When they come Ihrough the second round wilh Ihe plows they gel burled again, You are going 10 have 10 go back oUI and do It again, It Is parlOr living In Iowa rolks. Ambr.l On Ihe firsl day or Hanukkah. I would like 10 say lIappy Hanukkah 10 everybody who Is concerned wilh Ihls wonderrul holiday, And since we won'l bo having anolher meeling bororo Dcc, 251h. I havo worn my 80bbl Knighl swealer and I wish 10 say Merry Chrlslmas and lIappy New Year 10 all or oul Crlends, neighbors, consllluenlS, Kubby/I wan led 10 say lIappy lIanukkah 10 everybody everywhere, I also had Ihree olher Issues, One or Ihem Is another holiday Iype or Issue, - 1 I I j 'i ! I I a [I rl 5 'I " '6 page 3 Thai is holiday IighU I am real concerned wllh energy conservation Also I have lhls W851erullove of holiday IIgh15. So 10 me II is a compromise belvo'een lhose IWo Ihlngs, I like 10 see Ihe Iigh15 bUll v.'anllO encourage people 10 lurn Iheir indoor and Ihelr oUldoor Iigh15 ofr v.'hen you go 10 bed al niRhl. For fire sarely roasons as v.'ell as energy conservation Secondly, I wanled 10 announce 1'10'0 meelings. One is probably over by nOlL', Ills happenlnglonlghl 01 7:00 In lhe CoralVille Public Library aboullhe Oakdale IncineralUrs, II may stili be going on, I am not sure, Mihal meeling lhere wos going to be some updale 10 Ihe public on whal is happening and IoU or lime Ihere are queSlions. So who knows II 5111I may be going on, The second meeling is aboullhe V,A, inclneralor which is going 10 be Thursday rrom 11:30 10 12:30 In Ihe Chapel. Ilhlnk Ihese meellngs are reallmporlanl Cor people 10 go to ir you are Inleresled In these Issues. This Is your opportunlly 10 ask queslions dlreclly. My concern wllh alllhe inclnerolors Is all or a sudden we are lalklng aboul haVing Cour dlfCerenl kinds or medlcallncineralors in Iowa CIIY, Whal I would hope that If the medical communlly Is going to say Ihal we are going to do wasle reduclion and afler Ihat we are going 10 need 10 Incinerate. Maybe we need 10 have the medical community 10 work logelher to maybe have one incinerator. Alllhe Inclneralors are near resldenlial areas and Ihal is a big concern ror me, The reason Ilhlnk Ills approprlale for cllY council, bUll am bringing It up here, Is also we are going 10 have 10 possibly deal wllh the decision as 10 whelher or nollO accept Ihe ash allhe landrlll. I hope at Ihese meelings Ihat Ihe polnl '10'111 be broughl oullo work logelher. If ills deemed thai we are going to havo incineralion or medical waSle in Iowa City, thai maybe we have one Incinerator Inslead oC four, II would be cheaper and less bureaucracy If Ihere was one, Iforow/ Mr. Atkins, would you like 10 address this, Aikins/II has 10 be alleaSl a year If nol 18 monlhs ago we dlrecled correspondence . ~aren, saying emlly Ihe same Ihlng. Thai why don't all the medical Cocllllles In Ihe communlly gellogelher and do II In one place alone lime and II wonl no where. So, we went on record encouraging Ihem to consider Ihallhoughl process. Larson/ Need to pass a law, 1I0row/ You can't. You are lalklng aboul another jurisdictional level, Two dlrCerenlones, The Slale and Ihe V,A, Kubby /1 had requesled rrom Ihe public works depl, Ihal we gel some Inrormalion, Especially aboullhe radloacllvc Inclneralor as 10 what . , O[rn.br, " -6 page 1 the content or the ash wu No one could really answer our most basic question, Chuck's response from public works was lhat until you can answer these queslions we can't make a decision whelher or not we '10'111 allo\\' It in our landrill, That is a good policy ror us to rolloVo'. Lastly, ( wanted to ask some questions ab\lut Whispering MeadoVo's. To kind or reiteratc my concerns aboul having conservation plan before we approve a rtnal pial. ^ conservation plan ror the wetlands, I know lhal wc are hiring somebody Crom the University or Iowa, Dr. Yon Drake, who ( trust a lot to do a good lob and to look at lhese issues In a very whollstic way I want 10 know iC that conservation sludy will bc done berore the final pIal. Atklns/llopcrully, ~aren. It should be. Just 10 give lhe council an encapSUlation or It all, Our engineering div, In public works contacted Yon Drake allhe University and concluded lhal an inCormal agreemenl with him, a conlracl, to study Ihe secondary Impact or Ihe slorm waler runorr, drainage, etc, running through Whispering Meadows, This was al Rick Fosse's suggcstlon. which (Ihlnk was a good one, As or loday, one or Ihe agencies of Ihe DNR and the Corp hove slgncd orr on Ihc prcllmlnary or Ihe primary findings wilh respect 10 Whispering Meadows. 1I0wever, Ihere Is onc olher lIsr.ency oC Ihe DNR Ihal this secondary ImpacllnCormatlon will Influence whelher Ihey sign orr. (always gel a kick OUI of If one agency or Ihe DNR said yes bUllhe olher agency may say no, So we are nOl really sure or whallhey are going 10 do 10 us or ror us, The final pial Is likely to be four 10 Sll weeks, If allgocs well, we would like 10 have Ihal secondary ImpacllnCormallon 10 be Incorporated Inlo Ihal final plalllng process We do have one minor problem. Thai is Is thai ovorYlhlngls snow coverod. I assume thai Dr, Yon Drako Is going 10 havo 10 lake Ihallnlo consideration when he docs his work, AI the very least we should get the element s or a manager plan out of this whole process, Ilhlnk, barring anylhlng failing apart on us, Ihat you should have some or your concerns answered 10 the best we can With the Inrormation we have at hand, 1I0row/ Are you going 10 rerer 10 Ihls leller wo received rrom Ihe wetland subcommlllee, Johnson Counly Resource. I would cerlalnly like 10 enter thoso Into the mlnules, The Dcc, 10 leller CroOl tho wollands subcom mllleo of Ihe Johnson County REAP prograOl, They are asking ror essentially. Aikins/ Yes, Bob Watchel Sloppcd in yesterday. Kubby/ My second issue having 10 do wllh Whispering Meadows, Ilhlnk we lalked aboullhis a IUlIe bll berore, Where in Ihe process do we lalk .- - tJ [I .rt ,,-,-b, .-:-I->-~" . ,.. 16 page ~ about ensuring the prolection or the wetlands during conSlruction, I know it's a Iillle more area than Gentry/ We are talking about that right now Karen. Kubby/Okoy. So that issue will be dealt v.'lth. Gentry/ Yes. At this point, the subdivider is not plmed with our Inltiol response so we hove scheduled a meeting Cor Thursday morning to 80 over It again. Kubby/ There would be some kind or remedy if there was damage to the w~t1ands during construction or that. Gentry / Yes. 1I0row/ Larson/I wish our Mayor II speedy recovery Crom so Coolishly railing on the Ice. I hope that no ono else surfers such a palnCul incident. Horow/ Get beller, John, quickly. I don't have anything other then to wish everyone happy holidays, Merry Christmas, Happy lIanukkah, winter sols lice, ( , ! " Ii ., ,! d il 'I I I ,I I' I [1' [I . n b ,:' , . , '70 page I 1I0row/ City Manager. Atkins/ The City Clerk has something to report during my lime. Karr/l would like to note the addilion or a vacancy or the City ConCerenco Board. I menlioned to you last evening. We arc announcing one vacancy to tho Board or Roviow Cor a IiI yoar term, Jan. I, 1991 to Doc. 31. 1996. That appointment will be made al the lolnl CilY ConCerenco Board meellng meellng, January 21 Sl. 1I0row/ ReCresh me. Who Is leaving. Karr/ II Is a sil-year lerm so the gentleman whose term Is up, I can't think oC his name right now. lie has been on II Cor sll terms. And he has reapplied. I apologize, 1,lhink or the gentleman's name right now. ~i' ( ! , I I i I i n il I Ii , 'I I' \1 d II . ; t I ! I I I I i I I i i I , ! I I I , 1 I L l . O. [I n, b ,':1 Agonda Iowa CIly CIty Council Rogular Councll MooUng Docornbor 11,1990 pago B b. City Attornoy. ~./ 1/1!id) ITEM NO.8. 'MD.")}'!" CONSIDER A RESOLUTION DIRECTING SALE OF $2,300,000 ESSEN. TIAL CORPORATE PURPOSE GENERAL OBUGATlON BONDS. ITEM NO.9. Commonl: This rosoluUon roUfios end confirms tho ocUons cl tho F1nenco Dlroctor In tho dotormlnatlon of tho most favoroblo bid which was rocolvod on Oocombor 11, 1990, at 12:00 noon on tho Gonoral ObllgoUon Bond Issuo. AcUon: ~~ / A,I./J ( 51 j,"J t) AU6 1/ ~ . M/) aaufl./' ''/11' CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHO IZlNG AND PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE OF $2,300,000 ESSENTIAL CORPORATE aENERAL OBUGATlON BONDS AND LEVYING A TAX TO PAV SAID BONDS. I I ..!.9o '~,;)1 Commont: This rosolutlon provldos final authorlzaUon for tho Issuonco of tho bonds, Action: A,,.,A / 6twr . , (' Mu-fo ~ /It tj) a'~ /dtMy /~" ... lJ [I rl b, LI . '7b page I 1I0row/ Ms. Genlry. Genlry/I would lust like 10 say Ihat Sieve Aikins come 10 our noon Kiwanis loday and talked aboul affordable housing, among olher things. lie was his usual witty and provocative selC and gOI picture thinking about lhe big plclure, lie presonled Iho quostlon, tho Cederal governmenl makes mandales, Slale governmenl makes mandales, how are we going 10 deal wilh I\. /I was very good. I was proud oC him. " I :1 \I jl II .il . ..' f , ,I I , ,I , I I i , i I I. 'I I I , " 1 I ,I ,oj , ,I . i' I a [I rl f3 -c,' . '8 page I 1I0row/ Moved by Larson, seconded by Ambr, Discuuion, Mr. Yucu;s, please lnrorm us as 10 what happened, Don Yuculs/ This Is called a compellllve bid, A very ravorable rate. Thirteen bidders. Lowest net Interest rate was rrom a group- Courtney/ Wrong firm won. but besides that-right rale. Yuculs/ Under 6\, 5.9941 over the lire of the bond, It Is very favorable Courtney/ , would lI~e to point out that there are AAA rallngs and then there are real ^^A ratings, We got the real ^A^ rating, The day beCore Cedar Rapid,. with their ^A^ rating. sold a bond (ssue and our hlghesl bid was below what they actually sold those Cor, We got the real ^AA mllng here. I think thatthl, Is a ranlasllc deal, 1I0rClwl Are we all set on this then, Kubby/ljust had one comment. The Walnut Rldgo advanco ror tho sower is 2\ \ or the bind Issue, I have no problem with the olher Items on there but because this Is such a big percentage or the bond Issue this is where I am voicing my protest and vollng no with no reservations about lhe other items on It. Yucuisl Just one point, Karen, on the way the bond counsel worded the rcsolullon. It did not statc specific prolcclS. It did stale Improvement and equipment of sanitary sewer. Kubbyl RighI. But that Is what thc money is going to go Cor. Yucuisl That Is the way we slaled 11 in our use, By approving Ihe bond issue, you don'l necessarily approve the prolect. The money Is available to do sewer work. Kubbyl This Is thc only place that I reel't is approprlale to register my prolest. Courtncy I You voled agalnsllt bcr ore on the. Kubbyl No.1 voled Cor the rezoning or Walnul Ridge thow wholo time. Nov.l Wo also havo 10 say. If this projecl doesn't happen, we wlll uso Ihal money ror something else. At~ins/ Thai Is Don's very point. Courtney/It doesn't have to be used ror this, Alklnsl Thai is right, Ilorow / Roll call- Okay, MalorllY rules. Kubby vollng no, I ,: ! il , :: I, l' \i Ii I , I . U [I ,rl b, h. Agondo 10WI City City Councll Regular Councll Mooting Oocombor II, 1990 Plgo 9 ITEM NO. 10 - 'I1l~O'dd8 ITEM ~O,11 . ~D'~}.~ ITEM NO,12, ~ ITEM NO, 13. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORlZlNQ EXECUTION OF CONSOU. DATED ANNUAL CONTRIBUTIONS CONTRACT IKC9033E. Commonl: Tho Consolldolod Annual ContrlbuUons Contract covorlng tho 473 units of SocUon 8 ExIsUng Housing has boon Incroosod 10 482 to Includo nino IddlUonol units from tho appllcaUon submlttod In Soptombor 1990. Tho moxlmum annuol contrlbuUons Imount will bo SI ,305,598. This Includos tho addlUonol corUncolos end en odjustmonllo 0 provlous cost omondmonl datod 6-23-88, AcUon: ~">V / ,4m./. I ~~ /11 'D ~<Ut..", CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVINQ, AUTHORIZINQ, AND DIRECT, INQ THE MAVOR TO EXECUTE AND THE CITY CLERK TO A1TEST AN AQREEMENT FOR USE OF PUBUC PROPERlY BV AND BETWEEN OUN I. LLOVo AND DWAINE R, ANDERSON, AN IOWA QEtlERAL PARTNER, SHIP, FOR THE PLACEMENT OF A LANolNQ, STEPS, AND PROTECTIVE HANDRAIL ON THE EAST BLOOMINQTON SmEET RIQHT,OF,WAV, Commonl: Tho proporty ownOrs of 328 Easl Bloomlnglon Strool hovo con$tNctod a landing and stops on tho Bloomington Stroot rlghl-ol.woy adjacont 10 tho proporty IIno sldo 01 tho sldowolk, This agroemenl establlshos conditions lor UIO use of publlo proporty by tho ownors and lenanls 01 328 Easl Bloomlnglon Slroot. Publlo Works rocommonds approval of this agroomont. Action: M J ~/k) { ----a ,P (p J ~") ,#M,J rIt~~'D/:''''''' CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDINQ THE CITY CODE BV ADOPTlNQ A TAP.ON FEE ENABUNQ ORDINANCE, AUTHORIZING THE ADOPTION OF PROJECT-SPECIFIC TAp.ON FEE ORDINANCES, AND PROVIDING SUBSTANTIVE AND PROCEDURAL RULES FOR THE ADOPTION THEREOF. (Paslod and odoptod) Commont: A momo from tho City Attornoy and Flrsl Asslstonl City Attornoy was lurnlshod with tho ogonda for tho November 13, 1990, Council mooting, Action: KuJJw. '10 ~(.D~r ADJOURNMENT, ~/..(~ 1:'15 r,/h, aJ.Q~ .a [I' rl b .'-,. . 'II page I IIorow/ Moved by Ambr.. seconded by KUbby, Any discussion. ~ubby/ A quick quesUon. IC Ihe tenanls change. does lhis agreemenl aUlomallcally. Genlry/ Termlnalo? Yes. ~ubby/ And thai mean, Ihey havo 10 removed lholr sleps. Genlry/ Yes, It Is only ror Ihe benefll or Ihls parUcular lenan\. 1I0row/ Any other discussion, Roll caU- The resoluUon passed. I 1i j\ Ii Jl \1, . II ' , 'J' "t >! 1 1 . I ! . i -0 [I n, b FI City of Iowa City MEMORANDUM DATE: December 7, 1990 TO: CI ty Council FROM: CIty Manager RE: Informal Agendas and Meeting Schedule December 10, 1990 6:30 - 7:30 P,M, 6:30 P.M, 6:45 P.M, Monday 7:05 P,M, 7:20 P.M, Counc 11 Chambers . Preslntatlon by Wm, R. Ingles - Local Rlcycllng Firm . Contlnuld discussIon of cigarlttl sales and vending mach I nlS . Rlvl.w zoning mattlrs . Council agenda, Council tlm., Council commlttel reports December II, 1990 TUlSday 7:30 P,M, . R.gular Council Melting - Council Chamb.rs D.cemDer 24, 1990 CITY HOLIDAY . CITY OFFICES CLOSED NO INFORMAL COUNCIL MEETING Monday D.cemblr 25, 1990 CHRISTMAS DAY. CITY OFFICES CLOSED NO REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING TUlSday January I, 1991 NEW YEAR'S DAY. CITY OFFICES CLOSED TUlSday January 7. 1991 6:30 . 9:30 P.M, Monday Council Chambers Informal Council Meeting' Agenda Pending January 8, 1991 7:30 P,M, . Regular Council Meeting - Council Chambers Tuesday PENDING LIST Stormwater Management RevIew Sales/SolIcitation on City Plaza Appointment to Mayor's Youth Employment Board - January 8, 1991 '.J' ,r rl '~1.. ',Lf '. · /, J' / 'I' 1,1 AGENDA TIME 1 II.m I ' I : 1J 2 Item 2 , 3 Item 3 '/,~'f 4 II.m 4 . 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