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Home My WebLink About1991-07-23 Agenda ~; "', _.,,~, . '. L . " . , , , ~:'.,,"" n CI q ,I ,-, , I' IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL AGENDA REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF JULY 23; 1991 7:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CIVIC CENTER 410 EAST WASHINGTON , , , n CI q -I EI AGENDA IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. JULY 23, 1991 7:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBERS /J:(A~al ,J,k.dty KtAkll $a",~ ~ .k... ~H1 7If.~,v c9'/~ ~~ 7)/ar;u.() CONSIDER ADOPTION Of THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED OR AMENDED. /It/lLu~~ ~ l' ITEM NO.1. CALL TO ORDER. ROLL CALL. ITEM NO.2. I. Consldor Ipprovll 01 OUIcIoI CouncU ICllon. 01 .thl rogulor moo ling 01 July 9, 199 " Ind Iho lpodll melt. Ing 01 JulV 8, 1001, 01 publlshod, lub/OCI 10 correc. lions, .. rocommonded bV tho CIIV Clork. b. Mlnulo. 01 Bolrds .nd Commlsslonl. 111 Bo.rd 01 L1brarv TNIIOII moollng 01 Jun. 27, 1991. 121 Housing Commission mlollng 01 Juno 11, 1991. 131 Broldblnd Tolocommunlclllonl Commission moollng 01 Junl 10, 1001. 141 Alrpon Commllllon moollng 01 Juno 10, 1901. 151 Alrpon Commission moollng 01 Juno 18, 1001. c. Pormll MOllon. Ind Relolullon. II Recommondod bV Ih. CItV Clork. 111 Conlldor . mollon Ipprovlng I cro.. 'C' Liquor Uconll lor Jlmll J, Tuckor db. Tuck'. Ploc., 210 Nonh Unn 51rool. IRonowl1I 121 Con sidor . mollon Ipprovlng I CIIII 'c' Ilur Pormll lor Vou Pllroloum ollowl CItV dbl Din'. MUlling Mllkol, 033 50ulh Cllnlon, lRenowl1I 131 Consldor I mollon Ipprovlng . Clan .C' Liquor L1conl. lor Flold HOUIO, Inc" dbl Th. Flold HOUI., I I I E. Conogo. IRonowl1) 141 Consldor I mollon Ipprovlng I Clm 'C' Liquor L1cons. lor Sonor Poblo'l LId" dba Sonor Poblo'l Lid., 830.111 Avenue. (Ronewall ncrq'lc, . ,....,.-. , I' Agendl fowl CllV City CouncU RfguIv CouncU Meollrlg July 23, 1991 P'O' 2 (5) ~Utkl ,~,J,il/ tf/'lf"'~1 (II" (' q~". ";t'IIIf' ,c" Oeorgo'. IluUOI, 104.: db. O.org.... 312 Em Mark'l Slrool. lRonowl1) 151 Consider. mollon .pprovlng . Cllls 'c' liquor Uc.n.. lor 5:20, Inc. dbl 5:20, 520 S. Modlson 5lroel. lRonowll1 ~/-I7S 17I Consider. Ro.olullon 10 Issu. D.nclrlo POrm!I. d. Rololullon.. -!1J. 1'I1i 11I Consider a ra.olullon ,cc,pllng Ih. work lor Ih. 1In1I'ry' sow.r, Ilorm sow.r .nd povlng Improv.menl. lor Popper- wood Addlllon, P.n 8. Commonl: 500 '"lched Enolnoor'. Ropon_ .. CorrOlpondonc.. 11I L.llor Irom Roben 5. Michael on bohalf 01 Rogln. Educollon C.nlor regordlng propony Rogln.l. sonlng .nd, In pon/cullt, . 11I001 which WII proposod. A momorondum Irom th. , . Dlroclor 01 PIoMlng ond Ploorom Dovolopmonll. ,"ochod. 121 Leller Irom Ooorgo Noglo r.gordlng nolghborhood prosoty.. lion. , 131 Leller Irom V.ldo Oebh.n rogordlng .nlmol control. I- Appllc.llonllor Clly Ploro U.o Pormlt.. 11I Appllcollon. Irom LOI/n Amorlcon Humon RIghI' Advococy Conlor lor permllllon 10 .01 up 0 lobi. on City Ploro during Iho period. 01 July 8.11, 1991, ond July 15-21, 1991, to dl.lrlbulo litera lure .nd oUor croll I lor donoll~n.. lopprovedl ,c., nClCleo I' AOonda low. CllV Clly Councl RoguIIt Councl Mo.tlng JtJy 23, 1991 P.g. 3 . g. AppIlc.lIon. lor UI. 01 5uooII and PubGo QrOWldI. 111 AppIlc.llon from tho Downlown AllocIotlon lor tho u.. 01 pubGo s1d.wolks 101 Sld.w.1k Doya on JoJv 18, 18, 20 .nd 21, 1991. Ilpptovadl .lJ,KI. / ~fl I . -;~ bJ'J ~/Ir;,) j)'Il~ END 0' CONSENT CAUNDAR PlANMNO AND ZOMNO MAnERS. ITEM NO, 3. .. Consldar ..Illng I pubGo hasting lor Augu.1 20, 1991, on an ordlnanc. 10 V.ClI. . ponlon 01 tho louth hall 01 tho rlghl.ol-wlY 01 Lal.yall. Slrlll Jocalod belw.en South CllIban 5tll01 and MaId.n lint lV-91021. Comment: The PIIM/ng and Zoning Comml.sIon wII consider 1hI. roque.1 01 II' JoJv 18, 1991, m"llng. SIIII rocommend. .pproval 01 tho rlCll/ulad vlClllon lub/ocI 10 tho .pptovol by tho CllV For.lter and tho Publlo WOIU Dtponmenl 01 . IondIClp(ng and sId.w.1k pI.n lor tha pllUlg 101 ptopolod lor lha ptopeny, . ptohlbltlon 01 .cc... Irom tho ptOpolad potklng 10110 CllIban and Lal.yall. .trl.II, and tho IItlntlon 01 .1 noc....ry ....menl.. A dOI.1Iad 11111 rocommendollon II conlolnad In tho iliff r.pon which will be lubmlllad lor tho pubGo hailing wllh tho PlInnIno and Zoning Commllslon'. r.comm.ndotlon. Action: ~ .I Jk.n n.a9... n 'r J ".'" n [I cl I:' ., , I Consent Calendar Horol I would like to comment on Item c3 whIch Is to consIder a motion opprovlng a liquor license for tho field 1I0use. I'll certaInly going to vote for this but with the understanding that having talked with Chief Wlnkelhake the law enforcement from Woterloo, Ames, and Iowa City and the representatives of the universities In those three cities ore evidently working together to address the Issue of alcohol on campus or In focllHles that are attoched to campus and so I remaIn concerned about the liquor llcfnses thot we give to those establishments where a lot of octlvltles take place shall we say that either get Into the newspaper or don't but I will vote for this sImply because I know that the law enforcement agencies are looking In some way to address this for more than one strategy. HcD/Okay. Any more dIscussion? Roll call. rl Ct cl e e Agondo low. Clly Clly CouncU Rogulor CouncU MOIling July 23. 1991 P.go 4 b. Con.ldor. rocommendlllon 10 th. Johnlon Counly Boord 01 5upervl.or. thll Iho City dO'1 nol oblocl 10 tho 'uuanc. 01 I condillol\ll u.. pennlt lor. I.mporsry ..phI!l IlWII Jocol.d nonh 01 Inl.lltlt. 80 bolwoen Dubuqu. StrO.1 .nd tho low. RIver ICIJ. 91041. Commonl: Th. PlIMlng .nd Zoning Comml.sIon will conlfdor thI. 110m 1111. July 18, 1991, mo.llrIg, In I momorandum dOled JIJy 18, 1991, 11I11 r.commondod ,pP/ovol 01 tho condlllol\ll U.. permll lublocIIO I tlm' UmJI 01 ono yolt. Alltl July 17, 1991 mootlrlg, Iho Rlv.rlronl ond NOlural At... Commission, by . gon.ral conl.nlul 01 tho member. plUanl, lupponod tho 11I11 r.comm.ndollon thll . commanl 01 no oppoolo lion bo lorwordod 10 th. Boord 01 5upervl.or., plovldod thaI . one yolt limo UmI1 be plocod on Iho propolld Itmporory ..phI!l plInl permJl. Action: AmI, / ;/fottl ~......v ..111'/ /. i4~ jtlrd.J IlII "~w c. Conlldor . r.comm.ndotlon 10 th. John.on Counly Boord 01 Suptrvf. lor. thotth. Ion. chango Irom RS, 5uburbon Ro.ldontlal, 10 CP.l, PIoMod Commorcl.I, be donlod lor LOI 2, PIn. Mlldow. Subdlvlslon, on ,pP/oxlmaloly 5.5 .cr. Ir.clloc.IOd In Fring. Atll 5 nllrly one mil. 1111 01 low. Clly In Iho nonhwul quodr.nl ollho Am.rlcIn L.glon Rood ~nd T.II Av.nu. InltrlOCtlon ICZ.91 'f. Commonl: Tho proposed rOlonlng lor th. purpoll 01 UlobUlhIng . prlvol' club dou nOI mOIl tho Fring. Atll 5 poUcy roqulr.m.nllhll non.111m dovolopmonl wllhln on. mil. 01 low. CllV bo conllnad to . exl.tlng lonlno, In Ihl. Cut to RS, lorg. 10101rlg1..'.mIIy ruldonlrol dovolopmonl, 51011, th.r.loro, rocomm.nd. Ih.t.,lndlng lor donlol bo lorw.rdod 10 tho Boord 01 5uporvllorl. III. .nllclpolOd thlllh. Plonnlng .nd Zoning Commlu/on wllllOk. 10rmalocIJon on thl.llom on Thurldoy, July 18, 1991. A 101l0r conlolnlng Iho PIonnlng.nd Zoning Commlsslon'l rocommondollon on thll Counly rllon!ng roquoll will bo prutnltd to Council 01111 July 221nlormof milling. Action: ~.-1 J jJ,xt I .Ill. ,/lrnJ ~A"~~ \\AUf' I, ---- -- T-- - ,\ \ ... nOCle~' Item 3b l' KubbYI We talked about this a little last night and I was concerned obout some envlroMlental effects with the asphalt plant being right along the river and we found out last night that there Is somo kind of reclamatfon pro gram for the gravel and sand business right there and that this project will be assocIated with that reclamation somehow but I would like us to do somo follow up on this In a while just to make sure that those things are happening or when this permit expires whether they renew or not that we check In and make suro that reclamation Is beIng done and that It's beIng done properly Instead of just lettfng these things go thru and then no folow up or monitoring. IIorol I would second that. I think that Is a reasonable request for the engineering deparlmont. HeD/Okay. Any other discussion? All those In favor of the motion.... --- --- - y-- .- n 0 cl e L, ,I I It~ 3c KeDI We did discuss this last evenIng at our (In)(onnal moetlng and there was some questfon, well wo discussed whot the appllcatlen sheuld have been I guoss. The County PAZ Commission recommended to the applIcant that they (elt that thIs appllcatlen (or this type o( zenlng was more appropriate than what the County or rathor theIr Initial application WIS. The CIty thinks that the orlglnol application (or the A2 actually would have been su((lclent and would have been IIOre acceptable so we find ourselves at a little bit o( o( an Impass on this because we certaInly don't want to deny this project. We think that this proJect would be good (or area and bene(lclol to a great number o( people. So I think that we In(ol'lllollly agreed to go ahead and approve It IS It was applied (or. Did we not? larsonl Noed to amend It? kubbYI Couple o( points. NovIcki I thought that we wore goIng to ask th~ to omend It to A27 larsonl I thInk that we had 4 votes to approve It (or CP and hope that the County gots It changed ovor to A2. KeDI Yea. We were going to approve It (or tho CP zone. larsonl Right. I/hlch would 1lI04n that the motIon on the (loor Is the opposite o( what we want to do. KeDI It would be dented. 1I0rol It would be denIed and we would take another vote. KeDI Yes. kubbYI WIth the people that wanted the CP there WIS also a ... o( havIng a site plan and that the grading and access HcDI That was goIng to be part o( the recommendation I( we approved then there weuld be a site plan' review. Correct Monica? Moenl With the County CP zonIng you automatIcally get site plan revIew. That's a condItIon o( the planned development (or the CPI zoning. A secondary consideration that the PAl CommissIon had recommended that there be sone revIew o( access (rom the development onto AmerIcan Leolon Rd. because there was some concern regarding the access and the terrain o( the area at the point where the development would egress onto American LegIon Rd. With the A2 zonIng, whIch was the orIgInal appllca. tlon that the applicant had sought (rom the County, thm Is not that automatic sIte plan revIew. It was the PAl CommIssIons's recommendation that because o( the uses permItted In A2 they (elt that the A2 zone was more approprIate (or tho area but thoy wanted that approval condItIoned upon the same kInd o( site plan rovlew that you would automatically oot In tho CPI zono and In addItIon tho consldoratlon o( tho accoss onto AmerIcan Legion Rd. Larsonl Honlca lot me try and got this straight In my mind. I'vo got It wrItten down and I think that I'm not prObably (ollowlng It and I know that peoplo just trying to lIsten aren't being able to (ollow It. The applicant (elt like a A2 n CI q e 5 ,I I Item 3c P.go 2 l.rson/ (cont.)zonlng ~IS .dequ.tt for thtlr n~~ds. Is that corr~ct? Tho County zoning .dmlnlstr.tlon told thea no, btc.use you aay not b~ strictly ~h.t they c.11 . prIvott club ~hlch Is .pprov.l.ble In the A2 zone you need to .pply to be In the CP zona so thot .ny ccmmorcl.1 uses that you .'ght In up ~Ith ~hother thay be fish frys or ~hatever would be ok.y. And not be In vlol.tlon of the A2 zona, ~Ich Just t.lks obout private clubs. Our PI.nnlng stoff .nd legal staff didn't feel Ilk. there ~.s . dIfference botween private clubs .nd clubs thot .re .llowed In CP zone .nd fait th.t tho A2 zone ~ould h.ve re.lly been .dequ.to. Is that correct? Hoen/ Thot's rIght. l.rson/ And our dIlemma on council i think WIS that wo felt It ought to be .pproved for .n A2 zona but slnee It w.s folt th.t If wo sold ok.y It's .pproved .s on A2 zona th.t would bo consIdered., d~nl.l by the County bec.use ~h.t was being .skad for WIS the CP zona ~o didn't w.nt to kIll the prQJect so I guess the JlJorlty of council Just b.roly w.s wIllIng to recommend It for CP zone but re.lly folt Ilko A2 wos enough .nd wos hoperul th.t would be .11 the County would feel Is necess.ry. It kind of puts us Into. dilemma bec.use It was kInd of . splIt bec.use we don't wlnt to .pprovo It ror commerlc.l zonIng .nd have the pl.ns not go thru or have thea sell tho property .fter . ~hlle because the project doesn't work the way th.t tha~ Invlslon .nd now we h.vo .11 kInds or urb.n posslbllltlos out thoro th.t wo don't think .ro ne.rly .s ve.slbllo out thoro .s ~h.t this Knights of Columbus project would bo .nd so I thInk ~o .11 kind. faIt llko boc.uso It w.s Just '.rocommend.tlon to tho County I w.nted Just to oxpross kind of our feollngs .bout It .nd hope th.t It c.n bo worked out so th.t It does end up being. A2 zone. Wo dIdn't sea th.t thore w.s .ny problem with th.t .nd wo hope th.t the County leg.l st.rf .nd zoning st.rf will look .t th.t .nd .greo with us on th.t. KeDI All we .ro doing Is roocnmondlng .nyw.y. Correct? Hoonl Th.t's corroct. KeDI The County Is the body th.t h.s JurisdIction .nd th.t will t.ke Ictlon on this one w&y or the othor. Corroct? Hoonl Th.t's correct .nd Independont or your recommendltlon tho County Bd. of Supervisors c.n mako Its decision rglrdlng tho rozonlng Ind In extr.ordlnlry majority of the Bd. of Supervisors Is not required In the evont thlt they choso to rocommond Igllnst your particular st.tement. KeOI So If we would go Iheld and Ipprove Courtl denial KeDI First of III ~o ~ould deny the recommendltlon that's In front or us right now, I main we hive to voto on ~hat this recommendation Is. lorson/ We va to "no" on this recommendltlon. KeD/ We voto "no" on this recommendltlon. .. n cl e b - Item 3c Page 3 l' Hoonl Tho recommendation bofore you advanced {rOl the PlannIng and Zoning Commlsslen Is actually for the AZ, conditioned on the sIte plan review and tho assurance of safety regarding access on klorlcan Legion Rd. So you what you have before you Is tho recommendation from Plonnlng and Zoning baslcly suggesting that the CPI Is InapproprIate but that A2 Is opproprlote with condItions. Larsonl So we want to deny that because we wont to approvo CPI? KubbYI /10. I f you want too. NovickI Not everybody does. larsonl But the majority of Council... HcDI If we want to send a positive recommendation to the Bd. of Supervisors we WOI/ld approve the applIcant's request for CPI zoning. Correct? Hoenl That's correct. KeDI Okay. Now, with that recommendatIon If a majorIty would agree to vote In favor of that when we sned that recommendation on to the County we could also at that tlmo Incorporate our concerns as to whY we think, now the Bd. of Supervisors has not taken action on this yet, correct? . Hoenl That Is correct. HcDI So we Incorporate our concerns as to why we don't feel that this particular zone Is abSOlutely necessary for this project to go forth. That It could operate very well under their orIginal application of the AZ zone. Correct? Hoenl Certainly. KeDI And we could do It that way? Hoenl Yes. NovickI Also we felt that other uses allowed In CP zones are not appropriate and once we Hoenl That's the purpose for thIs. NovickI and once we approve the zone change anythIng else could go In there. , Hoenl That was what lead to the Planning and ZonIng CommIssIon's recommendatIon Is that they had some concern about other uses permitted In CPI that could perhaps be InconsIstent with adjacent land uses and they felt that the A2 lone on the other hand assured In the event that the Knights or Columbus dIdn't develope the site that It would be doveloped ror uses l'iIore consistent or more compatablo with Is there already. HcDI Correct. Would Council agree wIth that? Are there 4 members that would agree with that type of recommendation? KubbYI I think that we are doIng It backwards. That we should recommend what we noc,e.-, Itl!lll 3c Page 4 l' KUbbYI (cont.)feel Is best and even Is that means a denial we can still send a possible message about the project sayIng that we donlt want It to be CP, we do want It to happen and we think A2 Is the most opproprlate way. So Instead of klnda doing what the County wants we should do what we want and still send which Is to have A2 KeDI 8ut It'sthe Countyls call anyway. KubbYI That's true so why don't we do what we feel Is best and send a stronger message to the County? KeDI I/hy? KubbYI I mean my argument Is that It really doesn't matter anyway so we should say what we really want to happen and send a strong message that we want this project to happen. KeDI I thInk we can do It... KubbYI I/e can do It either way Itls just a slIghtly different perspective. HcDI I mean I think weotan send a positive recommendation with the concerns of . rezonIng It to that particular zone and posslblly the Bd. of Supervisors wtll take a look at that and since they have the ultimate ruling on that they wtll agree. KubbYI Right. And IIII make the same argument for dOing the other thing. The exact same argument. Novicki I'd argue the' other way Karen. Larsonl But my disagreement with that, Karen, Is that I don't want to say .yes. to A2 and .no. to CPI and therefore .no. to the project. KubbYI NO,we going to send a letter anyway. Larsonl My perference Is A2 but I still even If It has to be CPI and that's there call If they think under their law that It ought to be CPI then 11m willing to vote In affirmation of It that way also. It Is not preferred by me as the A2 but I donlt want to get Into what tholr zones allow for uses and everythIng. 11m Just In favor of either zone so that the project can work. I Just have a preference for one and that If we vote a denIal for CPI and time goes by It may seen differently than what I want It to be seen. KubbYI But at the same tIme then you are taking a risk that If the project doesnlt happen as Invlsloned or they decide to ~ to another location that you are openIng up the door for other-uses that prObably the County, I can't speak for the Coun~, that we donlt want to see happen there on that edge of the frInge area, understand that It Is on the edgo but I Just feol It Is Important because It Is the frlngo area that wo communIcate well on Issues such as this and that we communicate what we feol but It Is stilI not sayIng that the project shouldn't go. Larsonl Well, the other thing that we talked about briefly I think last. nIght was the Idea of conditional zoning which mayor may not be appropriate there but I 1""-' n CI c, e E' Item 3c Poge 5 Larson/ (cont.) think lie can send the moSS8ge that what we want Is to sce the project happen In a way that doesn't affect the area IIlthout opening the door to 011 these other uses. KeD/ I still thInk we can send a posItive recommendation with our concerns to the Bd. and asking them to take a look at the other zone because the proJcct 11111 work vcry well In... Kubby/ So what lie are votIng on for thIs first vote Is A2 with the conditIons Novick/ No. HcD/ No. We'll need tllO votes because therc's a motion on the floor to approve this rccommendatlon In front of us floro/ Which denies KeD/ Which denies the appltcantlon for the CPI zone. Kubby/ Right If that would pass then lie 1I0uld send this lotter that outlines our position that lie got last night. KeD/ If It 1I0uld pass. Kubby/ Right. Okay. Hoen! Let me clarIfy something. If this recommendatIon If the recommendation to deny or If your vote Is to deny this particular recommendation to go against what the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended lie would have to amend the letter that lias submItted to you last night. . KeD/ Okay. So lie 1I0uld lIant to do that anyway. Hoen/ The letter before you baslcly outlines the Planning and Zoning commission's recommendatIon Kubby/ Which we really don't get to vote upon. Gentry/ John, may I make a suggestion. KeD/ Yes. Gentry/ If you lIant to go against P&Z's IIlshes go ahead and vote on the motion on tho floor, rephrase the second motion that Is In the posItive to support the zoning to CPI and then you have a positive vote to send to the Od. of Suporvlsors. Larson/ Thatls what we aro goIng to do Isn't It John? HcD/ Yea. Gentry/ Okay. KeD/ Any other discussion? All those In favor of the motion that Is on the floor Signify by saying "aye". l' J n 0 q e c, Itetl 3c Pag. 6 , 1 Kubbyl Aye. IleDI Opposed SIllO sign. .. S Ix opposed Helll RocOlIlIIOndatlon Is denied. Kubby votlng In the affll'1lllUve. How do I have a mUon to larsonl Hove to approve the rezoning. hrbl Second. HeDI Hoved by larson and seconded by Ambrlsco to approve the request for rezonIng to the Dd. of Supervisors with. are you oddlng with SlllllCl of the concerns? Ilorol subJec t to... Novicki With the concerns of the Planning & Zoning CommIssIon In writing IleDI And asking thetl to review the Novicki Yes. HeD/ to review the zone. larsonl 1111 let you handle that letter John you knOll what I thInk.... lieD/ Okay. You wlll take care of tha t1 Hoenl Yes. HeDI Okay thank you. , larsonl She knOllS our concerns. HeDI Is there any other discussion? All those In favor of the motion on the floor signify by saying "aye". .. Savan affll'1llltlva ayes. HeDI Opposed samo sign. .. Hone. ~ '. ,'"" . noc,=,o ,\ I Ag.ndI 10wI City Clly CouncU Rogullr CouncU Mo.tlng July 23, 1991 P.g. 5 d. Con.ld.r . rocomm.ndotlon to tho JohnJon Counly Boord 01 5upervlsorl IIg.rd'1IIg . roquut 10 r.zone 1.99 IetU Jocolod oonhllll 01 low. City opP/oxlmallly 1.80 mil.. .11I 01 H1ghwoy 1 on tho oonh sid. 01 Rapid Cr'lk Rood NE ICZ.91221. Commenl: Th. PlannIng and Zoning Commission wID consJdlt tNI 110m 01111 July 18, 1991 milling. In I mtmorandum d.lod July 11, 1991,11011 rocommondad thottho CllV Councllotwlld . commenl to Iho CounlY Bo.rd 01 5uporvllorll1ndlng thollho raqutOllo r.zone tha lubjoct Ir.ct Irom Alto RS II 001 con.lotlnl wfth tho mutu.1Iy Igr.od upon FrIng. Ar.. Polley lor thol ponlon 01 Ar.. 4 1..1 01 H1ghwlY 1. ~tJ J IIrM , Acllon: aJ.Q..~. J ITEM NO.4. PUBLIC DISCUSSION. ~tJ 111"} (~ ~ IS ~~:J,....D_ It.u.u) n [I C, :1 . , ,I I Item 14 Page 1 Jean Hood! 1'11I Jean /food and J'III the SenIor Center rep. for this ",nth to share a little bit about what's gotng on on the Senior Center. I'll excited about all the energy that's goIng on at the Center. Somo of you may know I've been In .. for 2~ IIlOnths and came back tn IIIld.Hay and things ore really hopping ot the Center and It's exciting. As people are working together to pIon the 10th anniversary of the Center we hope that all of you will sove Honday IlOrnlng, September 9th, to como to breakfast with us and we are gotng to do . real switch for our volunteer recognltton. Insteod of usual banquet you'll ve Invited to como and recognize our volunteers at breakfast tlllO. But It's really exciting also to seo the Council of Elders who have selected their now officers, Lorraine .. will continue as thetr chairperson and give good strong leodershlp this next year. I ~Iso think you ought to know that our SenIor Center staff has done an exciting workshop InvItIng the cooperation of the Heritage Agoncy on Aging and the gereatlc,educotlon center at the University of lowo In sponsoring a workshop entitled "The Art of the Posstble" creottng aarket driven ogtng servtces and I had the prlvledge of attendIng thot workshop with Olck...who Is a fonner head of an agency on aging here In Iowa, who now Is workln? In IIl4rketlng. I think he helped us think alot about organizations of the 90 s ond how they ore going to succeed. One of the things that he suggested was thot we needed long range and strotoglc goals and as you know we have a 5 year plan that we've been working on but we are gOing to need your help and the help of alot of older adults and the help of this community If we are going to dream and think whot our Senior Center, what our servtces are for older adults needs to be In this community because this 15 the age group that's really ?rowlng. I thInk that livIng In Iowa City we see so IIlIny young people and that s excttlng but we need also to reallz. that this Is an age group that ts changing. Also we need a streng organization kinds of things and I think that our Senior Center under the leadership of Better Helsel does have this. We also need to have a commlttlllent to quality and to customor servtce and he helped us really think about the market driven organization that really puts the customer, the older adult, In the center. We need to think not onl~ as we do surveys of the people that respond but what about those people that don t respond. And then In personnel selection and retention Is a high priorIty In a quality driven organization for the 90's. And then financing and budgeting are faced head on. I'm sure we have challenges as we look at the future In that direction. This was a good workshop. We've got lots of materials and things to think about and we wl11 be doing a workShop for the commissioners and for our Council of Elders where we look at some of these possibilities. And I want to commend our staff for dotng this workshop. There were 46 people there who repre. sented two states, Iowa and Missouri. I don't know If you have any questions? McO! Thank you very much Jean. Kubby! I love that term "marketIng drtven agIng services'. noc,~le ,\ I Agond. low. City Clly Council Rogufor CouncU MOIling July 23, 1991 P.g. 8 ~...j ITEM NO. II. PUBLIC HEARING ON PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS, fORM Of CONTRACT AND ESTIMATE Of COST fOR CONSTRUCTION Of THE HIGHWAY 1 WEST WIDENING PROJECT. ITEM NO.8. .j/ol'l~ Commonl: ThlI proJOCI Involvu lho wldonlng 01 H1ghl'l'y I W'II Irom Orchord 5lroollhrough tho InltrSOCllon whh Ruppen Re.d to .CCOmmodll. lolt'lum lonu .nd olgnollZltlon II Orchard 51rOOl ond Muter Av.nuo. The Englnoor'l ullmoto I. '816,000. Ollhll.mounl, '90,000 I. lor InllrlOC' lion Ilgnollllllon. Thll work will bo conllNCI.d by Tr.lllc Englnoerlng 11111 .nd wI/I nOI bo . pon 01 Ihe bid pockogo. It II .nllclpOlod th.1 65" 01 tho 10101 proJOCI COSI will bo rolmbursod by th. 51010. The lundlng .groom.nl will bo IInllllod prior to .wlrd 01 conlroCI lor thll proloct. The pion., opoclllc.llonl, lorrn 01 conlloCI .nd ullm.l. 01 coollr. .vol/.bl. lor public v10w '1lho City Clolk'o olllc.. ACllon: -1\..e IM.Jj 4f~<I,(t.!' .JQV 1(b~) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING PLANS, SPECifiCATIONS, fORM Of CONTRACT AND ESTIMATE Of COST fOR CONSTRUCTION Of THE HIGHWAY 1 WEST WIDENING PROJECT, ESTABLISHING AMOUNT Of BID SECURITY TO ACCOMPANY EACH BID, DIRECTING CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH ADVERTISEMENT fOR BIDS AND fiXING TIME AND PLACE fOR RECEIPT Of BIDS AT 10:30 A,M. ON AUGUST 13, 1991. Commonl: 500 Commonlobovo. ACllon: ~.I JI.wJ ( ITEM NO.7. cflw.#-tv % PUBLIC HEARING ON PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS, fORM Of CONTRACT AND ESTIMATE Of COST fOR THE CONSTRUCTION Of THE OAKLAND CEMETERY RETAINING WALL REHABILITATION PROJECT. Common!: Thl. proJoCI Involvo. tho romovol 01 ponlono 01 Iho .xlltlng dOlorlorllod concroto rOlalnlno wollond tho con'lNcllon ollwo now woll. noxllo laid rOlolnlno wall locoltd on lh. Oakland ComOlory .djoconllO N, Oovornor Slrool. Tho Enolnoor'l con.lluCllon COil oollmolO II '100,000.00, ACllon: ~ 6'lUJ 641&cMJ-IL. , ../W yaM n CI c, :, :, Heal '5 I' Kubby/ I have a quick question. ,lie liked lilt night what's going to get IIllved back a llttl. bIt because of our roarran~lng of road use tax IIllney. Old we fInd that out? 1101 ling/Yes. Kubby/ Old you rind that out? HoD/ Kubby/ lar/ lIelllng/Hothlng Is going to get moved back. Our share Is approximately 5277.000 and thero's sufficient funds In the savings from the asphalt overlay program which came In well under budget plus additional funds we will receive this year above what we projected In road use tax because of the Increased populatIon. Kubby/ Great. 1101 1 lng/That will be more than sufficient to cover the costs. HoD/ So we will be oble to continue with 011 scheduled projects? lie 1 ling/Yes . Lor/ Anothor thing that I wanted to add Is that I asked lost night Why after years of our aSking the DOT to let us look at putting a slgnalollzatlon up at these Intorsectlons so that the merchants and the people driving thru there can manuver bottor what lead the DOT to approve It finally and Rick fosse was nice enough to call me back and say what happened was that the traffic got to a poInt whore It was 801 of the warrants, as they call It, the amount that you need to have to look at whether you can have slgnallzlatlon and that at the 801 level they then look at accident history. How our accIdent history there had been enough dIfferent accidents there that that convinced them that a warrant and should have the signal. Izatlon. How the funny thing Is that the accidents went up because of the temporary stop light that were there. Because people weren't use to haVing the temporary stop lights. So It all klnda worked out nicely. I gum. Hot the people In tho Intersection... lie put up temporary stop light, causing enough accidents to we can get pennanent stop lights. didn't happen that way on purpose. But HoD/ lar/ Hakes a lot of sense doesn't yet. ".descrlptlon of what happened. I think It will be a big Improvemont for the rnorchants. " Very much so. Any other discussion? I now declare the publIc hearing closed. HoD/ Hell 17 I/ovl fossol Hovl fossol f I/ovl fossol Larl fossol ---,-_..~--.-...'--- SCIIn/ Hovl Larl Horol fossol Larl Court! Hovl fossel Kubbyl HcDI n CI C, ~I'L' ,\ I I have a questIon. from reading the doscrlptlon In our Plckot I don't really understand how thm lIalll are going to be done. Anybody bring any dralllngs? Right here. Would you like no to come up .nd roll thell out (or you? Yes. I would really like to look ot It once to understand IIhat's going on. (unrolls and explains plans) When they talk about repairIng the two 1I11ls at two seporate locations, One at the north. end near the Intersection o( 8rown and agoln at the south end neor the Intersection IIlth Church Stroet. It 11111 also Include Lhe reconstruction o( tho steps here. The existing lIall 11111 be IIlntalned to the extent poSSible. It 11111 be cut down and the n~ lIall 11111 be built In (ront o( It. ...some o( the strength (rom the old lIall. Tho appmance Is going to be very sfnllar only newer. They are goIng to look the samo. And wo are talking about two 1I11ls wo'r. talking about two pieces o( the single lIam Right. Rloht tho north 11111 and the south 11111. Is thore lIall along here? I don't think so. I don't think It Is contfnuous all the lIay thru there. Do you rememober Chuck? Ho. It's not contfnuous. . Okay. What happens I( a body (aIls out? We'll put It back. That's IIhy they are leaving the old lIall, That's IIhy the old lIall stays. I thought so. Okay I undorstand thank you. Okay. I h~Ye a (e.llng that lie are going to get rell silly hero. ! Any othor discussion? I now decllre tho public helrlng closed. . n CI cl ~I 5 I' Agond. lowo CllV Clly CouncU Rogulot CouncU Mooting July 23, 1801 P.g. 7 ITEM NO.8. 'I/.m CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING PLANS, SPECIFICAnONS, FORM Of CONTRACT AND ESTIMATE Of COST fOR CONSTRUCTION Of THE OAKLAND CEMETERY RETAlMNG WALL REHABIUTATlON PROJECT, ESTABLISHING AMOUNT Of BID SECUNTY TO ACCOMPANY IACH BID, DIRECTING CITY CLERK TO PUDUSH ADVERTlSEMEHT FOR BIDS AND FIXING TIME AND PLACE fOR RECEIPT Of BIDS AT 10:30 A.M. ON AUGUST/3, 1891. Commanl: 5.. commanl .bov.. Action: iJ.-u-..J / 11"<<1 ' I b\.cj) Po ITEM NO.9. PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE TO AMENO CHAPTER 4, AIRPORTS AND AVIATION. Of THE CODE Of ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF IOWA CITY, IOWA. Commenl: Al lho Moy 21, 1901, A1tpon Commllslon milling, lho Commlulon volod 10 IOcomm.nd .mendmanllto Chopl., 4 ollho Cod. 01 Ordln.ncos. Tho propolod r.v1s1onl Includ. d.lellng IInguoO' 10 .vold dupllc.lIon with olhor locllonl ollh. Cod., IOmovlng and r.v111ng loctlon. to rom.1n In compn.nc. with Ih. Fodor.' AvIollon AdmInIltr.llon .nd cl.rlllcollon OlronglllgO 10 s1mpUly Codo Inlorpr.llllon. Tho .nllt. chopllr ollhe Cod. WII r.v1owod. ThI. helrlng I. conllnu.d Irom th. CouncU .. moollrlg 01 July 9, 1991. Action: jl/u "ralf) ITEM NO. 10 . CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER 4, AIRPORTS AND AVIATION, Of THE CODE Of ORDINANCES Of TItE CITY Of IOWA CITY. IFlnt conlldor.donl Common I: so. commonlobovo, Acllon: ~~ ,slA r. vI t ~ ~d nClq~lb .' I Item '9 DIck Blum! I would Just lIke to poInt out to you that the memo thot you hove In front of you that was prepared by the Legal Department wos hand delivered to Hr. Jones at hIs place of busIness thIs morning at 7:00 and he has had all day to see It as most of us had. We havenlt heard any comments about any aspect of the ~ other than he complaIned about the foct that It was delIvered to hla late on the day of the meetIng. floro! Okay. 81um/ It Is our practIce and I wIll relnterrote thIs whIch Is In the ~ that whenevor there Is a matter comIng up before the AIrport CommissIon that we think thot any of tenants mIght be specifIcally Interested In and thIs applIes to Hr. Jonos ond ethers we always make a poInt of notlflng them of that and makIng a specIal InvItatIon to th~ to attend commissIon meetIngs. Kubby! Is there some reason he dldnlt get It earlIer? Cause I mean I got It Friday aftemoon,late afternoon.... , 81um! I got mIne the samo limo he got his. Kubby! Uh huh. Okay. Lar! You got yours when Dlck~ 81um! ThIs mornIng. Gentry! Frankly Anne and I In the rush to get thIs Into the packet forgot to put one In the mall to E.K. And we got one to Ron Monday to give to E.K. So 1111 take responsibility for that. . HcD! So they did get It this morning? Blum! 7:00 thIs morning. KeD! So he dId have an opportunity to revIew It right? Blum! Yes. HcD! Okay. Lar! I would have been happier with a little bit more netlce but... Gentry! So would I but he calls me regularly... Blum! OtherwIse we are Just here answer any questions. KeD! Thank you Dick. I now declare the pUbllc hearIng closed. n CI q :1 ,-, " I Agand. low. City Clly CouncU RogulIr CouncU Motllrlg July 23, 1001 Pog. 8 mM NO. " . ANNOUNCEMENT Of VACANCIES. .. Bolrd 01 EIOCllic., Examiner. and Appeoll . On. v.cancy lor . r'pllIOnl.lIv. olth. public lor I lour,yolt lorrn .ndlng Octobor 28, 1905. lWIlU.m Roddick'. lorrn .nd..1 Thl. .ppolnlm.nl will bo IlIIdo .Ith. S.pl.mbor 3. 1991 me'l/rtg ollho CllV CouncU. ITEM NO. 12. CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION. ,Jt'J r) n CI q. :1 E' 112 , 1 KubbYI I had a butch but I wouldnlt do they all. But one of the thIngs that I read In the paper today shocked and very much dIsturbed me obout I cross burnIng that appears to be raCially motivated In thIs community. And I am just appalled and I hopo that If anybody out thero has Information this thot they wIll call our Police Department. I guess thatls all that I will say about that but there was a situatIon at ~ house a coufle of weeks ago a neighbor called the Police Dept. and It could have been a vu Itable sItuation ond Officer Hoyers did an absolutely fantastic Job of IllOdlatlng a conflict and I asked him arter the situation just how he know what to do and he said all that traIning that you all send us too In conflict resolution really helfs and so I just went to commend Officer Hoyers for a job well done. And flna ly I jsut wnat to let people know that the next two Thursdays I will not be at ~ office hours because I will be trying to make a living and wtll be going out of town during that tlmo. So this week and next week I will not be at my offIce hours. You con catch me the week after. Thank you. . nClq:lq I' AOond. 10wI CIty CIlV Councll Regular Councll M..llng JtJy 23, 1991 pog. 9 ITEM NO. 13 . REPORT ON ITEMS FROM THE CITY MANAOER AND CITY AnORNEY. .. CIlV MONoor. --tJ.. b. Clly AlIom.y. hI) r~) mM NO. 14. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORlZINO THE MAYOR TD SiaN AND THE CITY CLERK TO Anm AN AOREEMENT BElWEEN THE CITY 0' IOWA '1/. I !,D CITY AND THE UMVERSITY Of IOWA fOR US! 0' THE SILURIAN WATER WELLS AT BUROE HALL . Commenl: Th. UnIv.rslty 01 low. own. two groundwoltt woDl "Ilurgo Hlft tNI w.r. Uled 10 plovld. air condlllonlng lor Outgo Hlft. Tho WoQl .r. no Iong.r Uled lor IlIIt purposo .nd tho Unlvorslly 111. .grOOd to allow low. CIly 10 UII IN W.nIIO Iupp/.monllh. City'. tlW W.llr IUppIy to reduce lho nogollv.ImPICII.1I0cI0Iod with lho 10w.lllvor w.lor. Tho I.rm 01 tho Aoroomontl. lor live yoorl. Jw,.b, / ~Lt-" ( im ilW (Ja;kJ 1/. 1(, <!it14;6...~ tUff-) Acllon: JJ..flJ ~ iL,..,...,..., I I I I , I i n t] q LI [I Item 1138 II GentrYI I Just would like to tell you that we have not heard yet on the Ilolfday Inn but I should hear late Thursday afternoon on the successful blddor and whether they have recleved approval from the credit revttll commIttee and I wIll .ak. that announcement ond the medIa Is expectIng a responso and I will lot you know. HcOI Okay thank you. GentrYI Good nells. HcOI Yes. ~~ ,.- - -.... ,........ - 'Or ~ . -- -- - ....--~ -- nnclLl" - I ten 114 -r-- - ~ ---.... I' KubbYI Chuck, do we or there was no InformatIon In the ~acket that I saw about any strIngs attached. Any InformatIon about the qua Ity of wlter or the st4te of rep41r currently of the well. Schn/ There's no strIngs att4ched other than that we have to cop the wells when we ore flnslheduslng them and the cost Is about $8000 for both walls. KubbYI For the fIve year period? Schml .Yea, at the end of the period. Novl So eur total expense Is the coppIng of the wells? Schm/ Well we hove to tie the wells Into our system and there wIll be expense there 4 mInimal expense on the north well 'and the south well wIll be about a block of water maIn Installation. $12.000 to $15,000 I would say. KubbYI But they ore not charging for the water Itself? Schm/ No. KubbYI Okay. .----.--.--- ._----'.'.-.'--'--'--'" , lIorol And'you are not going to cut down any trees right? -____--0- . Schn/ They're already gone. KubbYI lIe'l1 te 11 us before he does. Larl As I am always quclk to crltlze the University when they don't cooperate I want to be Just as quick to commend them,when the~ do something that I think Is an excellent example of the good cooperatIon t at can help ~th sldos and thIs Is certainly a wonderful example of that and I hope that we can begIn to communicate better on everything and develOp a realtlonshlp that contlnu.s to Improve. Schm/ Between the two wells we'll get about a mIllIon gallon a day... HCDI Good source. Schm/ Yes. HeD! Very good. Court! That was my question. As what source of volumn out and what sort of quality Is It? Schm/ Itls a good quality. Dettter than our deep woll. Court! Detter than the Jordan? Schm! Right. Kubby! Since wo aro talking about shortagos of wator, I know Information Is available ~o peopl~ If they would call the City about water conservation can we put that <' "-.,.. 114 Page 2 KubbYI SChla/ L.rl Schft/ n CI I cl LI e- I' (cont.l InformatIon In tho publIc lIbrary and on tho publIc accoss channol ond that kind of stuff? Is thero 0 ..way of gottlng InformatIon out? And we had 0 pross roleaso thIs past week too on tho drought. I haven't bathod all week becouso of that. Thank you. Larl DoIng I\Y lIttlo part. KeDI You know that dld't you Naomi? Any other dIscussIon? Roll call. ~ n CI q LI ~, ,I I 'II. 11'1 AO.nd. 10wI City City Councll Rogullt Councll Milling July 23, IBBI P.go 10 ~ a ~ Jtl.ttl,) :#' ~ (~'s) ITEM NO.,f(" CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ACQUISITION Of CERTAIN PERMANENT SAMPLING WEU EASEMENTS, CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS AND PERMANENT ACCESS EASEMENTS IN CONJUNCTION WITH IOWA CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE WATER SUPPLY PLAN. ITEM NO. 18. ~ ;~~~~ ::~I~:~~I ~;,~~ :~~~r I~n:e}.m~~~tr lt~!t~~1:~ 01 using this w.ler IOU/C' II . row Wllot IUPply. ThI. rllolullon ,ulhorllOl U1f. Clly 11I11 10 nagollllO roqu/tod U1.manIS Ind 1M rIoht 01 condomNllon. Ev.ry .1I0n wID be madl to nlgotlole .n .ccoplobl. Igroomonl without rllonlng 10 cond.mNllon. Pllor 10 plocoodlnO with condomnollon 11I11 wID nollfy Councll. Action: ~/ ~(J KuMy ,It ~ .AU) -rtr~ ~II#' W'J, 6 Ja..,u "5) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING EASEMENT AGREEMENTS AND A SCREENING AGREEMENT, AND ACCEPTING THe DEDICAnON Of PUBLIC RIGHT.Of.WAY BY THE IOWA CITY KOREAN BAPTIST CHURCH. Commenl: On July 10, 1001, Ih.loWI CltV Boord 01 Adjullmonl.pprovod .n .ppllc'llon by lh. low. Clly Koroon IlIptl.t Church lor I spoclol lXC.pllon 10 permJltho II10blllhmonl 01 . rollgloul Inllltullon In th. ns.s lono lor propeny IoCllod .t 171 S Mormon Trlk Boulovord. Tho Ipoclol lXC.pllon WII gronlad lubJocl 10 lho church'. 'orllmonl 10 provldo VogOllllvo scr..nlrlg along th. nonh .dg. 01 Its porklng lot.lluch limo II 'Xlsllng V.g.lollon II romovod and Iho church's dodlcotlon 01 pubnc rlghl.ol. way lor ponlons 01 propony .xlondlng Inlo tho Wilt holl 01 Mormon Trok Boulovord rlghl.ol.woy. jwJ,/ ~~" I ACllon: ~ I~ PaRa I HcOI Aabrlscol 1I0rovlul HcOI Contryl n [I q LI L, .,. At thls tlllG I'. RolnR to roarronRo tho oRondo a IIttlo bit. thoro II on Ita. on Iho aRonda tonIRht.lto. II~I that I knov that ~ hovo 101lG pooplo In tho alldlonco that aro IntorOltod In thll Itoll 10 I think ~ vIII DOVO Iu. II~ ahood JIIIl 10 thoy wn't hovo to lit horll and IlIton to UI all nlRht boforo va Rot to that, and dOlI vlth that part Iculor Iu. at thll tlM. Iu. II~ II conlldllr a rOlolutlon allthorlalnR tho aqullltlon of cllrlaln porannont ID4plln~ voll oalllDllntl,conllructlon oalOllOnl1 and po~'nont OCCOII oaloDOntl In conjunction vlth lovo CltY'1 ccmprahonalvo vator lupply plan. nlO City IlUIl acqulrn proporty 10 Inltoll And IIOnltor lallpllnA ~III In tho burllld c1ulnnolaquUor louth of 111111 and to tho allouvlal louth of lovI Clly to dOlOl'lllno tho lultoblllty of ullnR thll votor lourco 41 a rav vatar IlIpply. lbll rOlolutlon outhorhOl City ltarr to nORotlato roqulrad OAlllIIGntt and tho rlRht of condolllllatlon. Evary arrort viII bo lI3da to nOllotloto an occoptoblo ORraollOnt vlthollt ralortlnR to condollllollon. Prior to procoodlnR vlth condoanatlon Itoff vIII notify Council. For tho purpoIOl of brlnRlnl1 It 10 tho rloor I llOVO tho pillaRa of thll rOlolutlon. ,I I Socond lt'l boon DOvod by Aabrlsco locondod by 1I0rovlta to opprovo thll ROIolutlon. Ollculllon? I Ihlnk I'd jUlt llka to laY at tho out- lot for tho banal It of our audlanca, and thoro aro a cOllpla of poopla I'. RolnR to hava oddroll thll tOOlhu hllva I 11ula lOrD axpartho In thll orOA, than vhot I do. nlat I knov and ~ havo hoard ond I knov ltaft hAI IIOt vllh lovorll dlrroront paopla, thAt thoro II a lot of concorn And rlRhtfully 10 by tho rolldontl that 11vo In thll Aroa. I think that thoro Ita to palntl thu I vould IIka to uka. Firat of all at thls point all vo aro dolnR II RAthorlnR Infol'llAtlon, thAt ls tho aKtant of It, va hAVO not ovon COllO dOlO to uklnA any kind of I daclslon vhathar or not Ihll particular IlIpply vould ba ulad In Iha futuro. 110 hava no IdOl At Ihll point. It'l Iha pOlllblltty aKlltl that It vould not vork out and va vould pack our lultcala and RO In anothor dlractlon. 110 happan 10 knov Ihat thoro II a lupply thoro. Tho analnaarlnl ltarr naodl Infol'llltlon In ordar 10 IIAka any kind of JudlallOnt In tho futuro. Tho lacond thlnR, thll Council I knov and I obvloully can't Ipaak for futuro Councll'l, but I cannot 1IIAllna undar vhat clrcu.ltancOl thaI any Council that vould ba IlttlnR hara vould taka paoplo'l vatar avay frOll tho. and I think tho third thins II laaally va can't. Thoro II no olhar voy thAt va could If all lavan 01 UI IIttlna up ha~ vonlad to. Undar StoIa I.av va could not do It. Linda, do you vanl~alaborata 0 Ilttla bit on 10110 01 tho thlnRI that aro Rolna on. nlan I'. Rolna to hava Iha onalnaar Chuck Schandaka our Public 1I0rkl Olractor talk jUlt 0 llttla bit about vhat'l RolnR on l4yba a Ilttla bit aboul vhal hal tranlplrad and vhat you upact to happan In tho noar fUlllra, Chuck. I think you laid It pratty claarly, John. Tho City doOl not hava tho allthorlty to taka your vatar or anybody 01101 vatar. nla vatar II ba- lov Rround and 101l100no othor than III put II Ihara and It'l avallabla for tholo of III 10 ilia It and your rlHhu and our rlRhl1 ora protaclod by th U.S. and tho lova Constltlltlon, and by Stata and Fadaral Lav. If va varar RolnR to taka any vatar IlIpply Ihat vOllld In any vay dlllllnllh vatar avallablo to YOII for YOllr poraonal Ula, va hava to pay for that and va hava to dthar I4ka an adJllltlllOnt In Mnay and or noqLI~, 15 Paga 2 Cantryl ,1 , raconltruct anothar vall for you. I lOan va Jult can't run In and run raapld ovor your proparty rlghU and thll Council and .y orrIco h41 ablolutaly no dallra to do that. 110 ara horn to protact ovaryonaa Jntorut nnd It'. my Job AI nn oUlcor of tho court to protoct your Intoralt. undar tho Fadaral Conltltutlon GI 11011 41 try to provlda odvlca to my cllantl. I raally a. lorry lor IOQO 01 tho conlullon, at thll tlllO va ara propo.lng to drill vary 1..,11 IIlJ1l1ng 11011, Ind thola valli vIII glva UI 101Il0 IndIcatIon 01 vhat oUoct , Il an)', thoro vIII bo on tho lourco. that .oau of )'ou MY bo ullng now. Thll II a vaty prall.lnar)' taltlng and tholo flnt rOlulu vIII glvo UI A c1uo al to vharo vo can go and how 110 can do It In tho lout Intrullvo ..,nnor, but you ara cloarly protoctad fro. Intorforanco vlth )'our vator rJghu undar Stato and Fodornl Lav. HcDI I would... Lila BAllo)'1 B)' vhat agancy. ploala? Contr)'1 B)' tho DopArtlOnt of Natural Kaaourcol by tho ad.lnl'trnllvo procodurOl that tho)' hAva And Lila Ballo)'1 nlat'l vhat I VAl afraid 01. HcDI and tha CourU Cantryl vall And tho Courtl of couno. HcDI Boforo vo 80 any furthor, Chuck would you JUlt IIko to although I do lOa thAt Ed C4110 In back thoro, I don't know U you, thll iI Chuck Schll4doka Dlroctor of Public 1I0rh and Ed Brinton vho 11 tho Suporlntondont of tho lIator Plant. Sch..,dokol \/hat thil rOlolutlon doOl IIAuthorhOl UI to nogotlato vlth tho proport)' ownorl for 1..,11 oalal:lOnt. to Inlloll monItorIng vol II, In ordar to dotor.lna tha quantity And quality of tha vAtar Ihot'. avallabla, Iho offact. that It viii hAva on oxlltlns propart)' ownor. In tha araa. Fro. thll Infol'1Mtlon than va CAn datorallno vhathor or not It'. In our Intarolt avon to tr)' to lacura vAtar frolll thOla aquUon. HcDI and now you..thara'l a totalof how ..,ny..thara'l only about lovon 1/0111 that you aro looking at, rlRht? Sch..,dokol Thoro'. .avon vall. thAt va monitorlnR valli thAt 110 ovantuall)' vant 10 put In tho aquUar Mouth of 111111 and 17 In tho AquUar JUlt .outh of Iowa City. Thll would ba ovar tho couna of tho naxt IOvanl month.. InltlAlI)' va JUlt noad ono In tho aquUar louth of 111111 and throo In tho oqullar louth of 10VA City. 80fora all tho tOltlnR 11 cOllplota vo 1/111 naad lavan In tho oquUar .outh of 111111 and lavantaan In Iho aqulfar louth of IOWA City. 1I0rovotll Tho aavan thAt nra pllt In thll AqllUar In 111111 thay nro ItrAtoglcally plncad than to talt tho volulllna And tho cnpAelty And tho purIty of tho wntor In dlUarant pArtl of thAt bnlln. Ie thAt corract? Schlllndakol Right, nnd tho arracta on tho axlatlnR wolla In thnt aroa. 15 PORO 3 1I0rovlul LAnonl Schll4dokol Lononl Schll4dokol LAnonl Schll4dokol Lononl - Schll4dokol Kubbyl Schll4dokol Lar.onl Schudokol LOrlonl Schudokol HcDI Sclu:lndokol LOrlonl Schllllldekol nOCIL'b II RIRht IIn't truo , Chuck, that one or the purpo.OI or tholO voll. II to doter- IIlne IIhother tho IIntor that people nro Rotting rrolll tholr privatI wll. 11111 bo orroctod by our Rolng dOllll 1I.1ny tllllO' deoper to top the blR oqutror that 1I.1ny or thOlO 110111 don't oyon teuch. I. that corroct? ThAt'. cerroct. And thAt ono or tho rOOlon. thAt lIlI noed to knov that II becAulo H tho City decldod to tAp the aqutror ror thOlo 11I11 lions or RAllon. or VAlOr that'. noodod, vo vould havo to con.lder AI A council vhethor It VOl lIlIrth dolnR thAt tr it Val RolnR to Arroct other poeplo'. IIAtor, .0 thAt vo hod to cOlllponlAlo thell. That'. corroct. ond dOOln't tho lav .ot rorth thl. IIholo .cholllO or hOll vo havo to cOllponlOto tholl up 10 and IncludlnR bulldlnR thelll 0 nov , lotting tholll tap into our votor .upply or RlvlnR tholll tho IIAtor? nlat '. corroct, YOl. And .0 that thold ArO tho kl"d. or qllOIt Ion. thAt H vo In udnR thll aqutror lIOuld rOu.o a chAnRo In anybody'. IIotor .upply or tholr ACCOII to Valor vo'd hovo 10 uka pllt tholll back In tha .alllO pe.itlon thoy voro in bororo lIlI did onythlnR. That '. rlaht. nlot'. truo ovon ir our ,olllplo. 'Ald It vouldn't orroct pooplo'. votor .upply, but indood it did vo'd .tlll nood to do tholo thlnRa. Yo., tr at .011IO point in tho ruturo tho drav down or tho arroct. on tholr voll, voro IIIOro .ovoro than anticlpatod, vo lIlIuld hAVO to at thAt tllllO RO back and IIlOko corroctlon.. I hod tllll othor thinR', Chuck. BOCOUIO..A lot. .you knov that lIlI IIoro talkln. about thl. particular rOlolution, but a lot or pooplo MY bo horo vlthout tho bonorlt or .011IO 01 tho hlltory. Tho roolon 110 oro 100klnR ror Rround vAtor at 011 II bocoulo in tho ruturo lIlI vlll not bo oblo to Rot onouRh vator hOIll tho 10110 River. II Ihat corroct? Woll tho voll IIotor rrolll tho 10110 Rlvor I. jUlt not Rolng to bo lultoblo In and or it.oH. ..... Elthor quality or quantity. Woll thoro MY bo tho quantity Horo quality, i.n't It? Tho quality... 1II0ro qUAlity problelll. O.K. But thlB lBn't just the BltuAtlon IIhero vo Aro hAvinR to do thlB to lIIeot stAndArd. And to provldo enouRh IIAter ror 10110 City. It hn't the qUOIt Ion or juat IInntlng A dlrronent ValOr supply 80 IhAt the IIAter tOltu bottor or anything? No. IS raaa 4 Latlonl n CI CI L, .-, I' Thl. II 10llOthlnK w ara RolnK to ba raqulrod to do to aaot Fodoral Standard. and 10 provlda IOfo drlnklnR v3tor for IOW3 City. i j Sehll4dabl n',1t" eorraet. I Latlonl And than tho lall tMnR..loll .Y..KO ahud I lleDI Naoal, did you hAva a qUOIt Ion? Novlekl Brlntonl Novlekl Brlntonl LAtlonl Brlntonl Novlekl ~c.f..41 Brlntonl KeDI Novlekl KeD I Schll4dakal Larlonl Yu, I do hava a eoupla qualllonl. lIow larRo II tho IIOnltorlnR wll? Tho IIOnltorlnR wll, tho halo In tho Rround II IIx InchOl. But than thoro II a tw Ineh plutlc plpa thAt'1 placod In tho hola And tho hola II fl1lad In vlth Rraval. So It wuld look Ilka tho Iha of a 1..11 dOllOlllc vall. But It 'e not larRa anough for 0 IIlInlclpol voll. nlala IIOnltorlnll will aro not Inlandad to vlthdrav valor othar than IDOII laiplae 'or laltlnll of vAtar qUAlity. And how do Ihay look:Abova Rround? lilt'" Oh, I vllh I'd brouRhl tholO plclural. Thoro Ara lavard .IIIIIAr^ln I own , ovary IAI IIAtlon hu IOnltorlnR will now and 10 you 100 Ihall 011 ovar lown. 5011O of tho. JUlt hovo 0 HUla vhlta plpa Itlcklng up A fav InehOl. 50110 01 tholl ora IIOro 10phlltlCAlod And thoy hovo A ,0Alod Ild tlulh vlth tho Rround. 5011O 0' thall hava pOIU around tholl to protoct tholl. But, ovary RAI ItAtlon hOI thala now. Thoy don't drAv votor oul 'rOIl Ihol7 No, thay Ara ulod 10 IAllpla Iha valor In tho loll. To bo Iura tho tanka Aro not luklnll. ..', YOI, IhAI'. rlRht. Thoy Ara 011 ovar Iha placo. Did you havo Anolhar qUOlllon7 YOI, I Ihlnk Ihot 'OIIOhow w hAVA to allphAllla tho 'Act thAI our vAtor now drown 'roil tho rlvor II not 01 adaquAlo qUAllly bacAula 0' chollcoll thAt Ara runnlnll frol 10110 othar COlllllllnlty up AtraAII And va eAnnol offlclolly curo Iha lourea of tho probloll. Our cholca At 10Alt 'or now II to tlnd othar votar. H va eould cura tho lourca 0' tho problall, I '. Iura va All WOllld. lIow 10nR do you oxpoct thll Initial philO, And thll II all IhAt va aro In rlRht now, .. It' I An Inlol'1Mllon RAthorlnR phOIO, how lonR do you ontlclpoto Ihll IAklnR? nlo complolo Itudy viII taka About olRhloon IIOnlhl. DurlnR thnt porlod wo vould Ilko to Inltall I ballovo It'l IVo producllon vall. and va vould COIlO bACk to Councll At thaI 1111I0, nnd provldo Council 'urlhor Inforllllltlon nboul locnllon And.. And Iu tholo production valli that IIIRht nClunlly hAVO nn IlIIpnct on n nalRhborlnR vall And thnt '. ana 0' Iha IhlnRI thoy vlll do II dalormlno lC thoro 11 any ImpncI. lIov doop vlll our vol h, It va ondod up dlRRlnR In Ihla nron, RO? n CI cl LI E' 15 PAKo ~ Brlnlon/ 11 Thay vIII KO to badrock. In OAch lono It'. 0 IIlllo dlUoront I think It'. about no laot In tha oraa Ihot'. tvo .1101 .outh 01 11I1\. and I bollova It'. around 200 - 2~ root In tha noar oral. LAnon! O.K. 50. ono or tho thlnJl' that IIJlht happon II U va did arract .oaobody'. prlvato wl\ that vu 0 )0 root or 70 root wl\ or vhal- ovor II that w vould hava to axland thalr wl\ dovn to vhara tho vator I.. Brinton! YOI, thAt'. 0 poulblllly. LAnonl ThAt'. a poulblllly. LAnon! Than vho dOlal'lllnOl vhara thOlo IOnllorlnJl and tOlt production wi II vould bo placad? Brinton! Tho 1I001011.t. thAt ora vorklnl ror lIovard II. Croon our con.ult Inl onalnoar. In Cadar RApid. aro Ilvln. u. tho rocoalOndad .Ita. and than va aro approchlnl tho hnd ovnan to .00 U va can vork an alroollOnt to phco thai on thalO IItOl. LAnon! And vhat vauld ba tho valuo or thl. aa.allOnt that w ora vantlnl to buy rrOl pooplo JUlt to put In thl. Ilttlo .Ix Inch wll? SchlOdako! 1'1 not .uro at thl. tllO. Wo'd havo to look at tho araa and probably hava an apprallal udo baroro va could.. Lonon! Wllat happan. vlth thh val1 vhan va ara dona vllh It? II It going to ba Ihara ror A Ions tl1lO1 Brinton! YOI, tha IIOnltorlng will va wuld IIka to lOa thallOlnlolnad rornor. If tho City procaad. vltll tho .tudy and w got to tho ond or tho .tudy and w rInd out thoro'. no lllOt, no valua val1 thon tho IOnllorlnl wl1. hAVO I1lllo valuo, but '010. But U tho City procoad., or couno thay havo valuo rorovar. LAnon! Tho othar quo.tlon I hoar. Ed, II vhat lIappan. H .0lOthlnl happan. at ono or tho vol1 .ltu that cau.u contallnallon Into tho vatar? Brinton! Wa vould bo a. IUch concornad about that II anyono. Lar.on! I undor.tand tllat. Brinton! A. our ant Ira purpo.o I. to rind out Ir va can oblaln drlnklnl valor rrol thll location. LAr.on! I undar'land va ora concornad about It, but vo lAY havo bll.ar pockoll tllan tho pooplo Ihat ovn tho land. Aro IlIay RolnR to bo oxpoud to lIab\1lty H ,01lOlhlnl happon. to that wlU Brinton! Aro tho ovnor. RolnR to bo axpo.ad to liability? I,anon! YOI. Sclullo'ldoka! No, tllo City vould II.UIO liability. I,aunn! Tho City vould 1I0ld thol harllou. In othor vordl, U n cnr vrock run. ovor a val1 and Rat. 011 davn In that vatar, tho paopla thnt ovn tho Innd thnt vol1 VAl on vould not ba rOJponllblo? noqLIQ 11 115 Pago 6 Larl (cont.) Wo would hold them hannloss7 SChmadokol Part of our agreement with them would bo a hold hannless agreement. Larsonl Part of tho easement. Schmadokel RIght. Larsonl And youlre IntentIon Is to go out and offer people enough money that you'll find people that will bo willIng to do thls7 That you wouldnlt have to condemn any. bodyls land to put the well In7 And you wIll como back to Council beforo you seek condemnotlon on anybody7 SChmadekel That IS correct. Larsonl I think thatls Important becauso I road In tho paper the answor to the question that was asked will you condemn land to got these wolls ond the answer wos yos. And I klnda think that Is a Council doclslon. I undorstand that wo have tho authority to condemn land to do It but whothor Itls what wo want to do or not I think Is a dlfforent decision. , krbl Ed, how closoly monitored wfll tho operations of the city be by a higher authorlty7 In other words wolvo contracted wIth Greene the engineering flnn and I assume part of our staff will bo on hand on a day to day basis. If all the procedures wore sot In place and wo started drilling a month from today what kInd of safe guards to tho citizens out In tho country and In ItIlls have that what's being done Is'belng done tho way we said It was going to bo don07 Is there any kind of superimposed balance here .of checks and balances to guarantee the wo are going to do this with utmost dellgence7 Brlntonl On the monitoring wells7 Ambl Yea. We go In and drill does the DNR or the Dept. of Agrlculature or whoever 'else has authority do thoy come In and look at us on a day to day basls7 8rlntonl ' Not likely. More than likely the day to day dIrection or supervision will be by the Individuals from lIoward R. Greene who are on the Job at all tlmos and the driller who Is now our contractor. Thero may be some occasslonal spot Inspections. Ambl Would It be unusual for us to request that extraordInary care by a higher authorl ty7 8rlntonl Not at all. Kubbyl Getting them thore Is the bId quostlon. Ambl I know It. Larsonl Whon you say hlghor authorIty do you mean God or the DNR7 KubbYI Who ever wo can got. 'Courtl One In the same. nClq~IO ,I lIS I Page 7 Larson! I Just wasn't sure what thot phrase meant there. Ivrb! That's who I rofer to usually. You understand what I om gottlng at? Court! Just so that I'm cinar we keep talking about the two questions of quality and quantity. The quantity really could be done from the river. I Dean we could rebuild the water plant totally and get enough quantIty for as leng as we need It? BrInton! Yes, the report that you have I thInk has one or two paragraphs, not nlch, that says we could probably find another site somewhere ond got 011 of the wator from the river and If ~ ~ry serves me It even had a cost estImate of $25 million. We didn't exp ore that vory far because we knew It was extraordInary expense. It can be dene. Kubby! Does that $25 million Included multiple phrases of processIng the water for quality control? Brinton! The tratment thot we thInk wf11 be necessary to satisfy the new drlnkln1 waters requirements, the ones that are horo and are comIng, Is I guess you wou d call It very high tech. And very expensive. Larson! And of course there would be an annual expense every year I moan you continuo ~ --"'-'- - treatment. In addition to the new plant. Brinton! Extraordinary annual expense In dollars and In energy and attention of the Individuals required responsible to do that. Novick! And do we have a choice? Could we say for exam~le we will supply drinking water In a bottle you know hand It to people? Will t e federal government allow this? 8rlnton! My understanding Is that In some cases, In some extreme cases, that that Is a possibility. I dId do some reading on that. But, and I put something In the refDrt about that, but ~ understandln1 also Is that we would havo to monitor that 01 the tlmo. If the City brought Ind vidual homo units and put them In ovory home and business we would be In the home monitoring treatment business. It could be done. Novick! . I was thinking of buying water. ! Brinton! Buying bottled water? Novick! Buying bottled water and handing It to people. Brinton! I don't believe that that would meet tho Intent or letter of the drinking water standards because we are a purveler of water at every water cooler and every sink and every faucet In the community so we have that responsibility. La rson! They want what comes out of the tab to be safe? Brinton! That's rIght. Larson! Whether you glvo people bottled water or not. BrInton! That's right. And the goal Is for the lowest common demontnotor, that person n CI q ~r " 115 Page 8 ,I I 8rlnton! (cont.)that passes thru town. And that most of us can feel comfortable about doing that anywhero from coast to coast. lieD! Dkoy. Thank you. H.1dam If you would like to come up to the pOdium we during our moetlngs we have to record everything that wo do and by aSking your question back thero or makIng oyur statement the microphone deesn't pick It up so Kubby! Ed thank you for bringing those photographs. Evelyn Knebel! I'm Evolyn Knebel from two miles south of 1I1I1s. Right where they say they are going to be. They don't tell us however what place they have chosen ond so we all think that It Is us. Everybody has the same feeHng because they don't tell us where exactly. It's Just down there. Ue'd like to know why are we expected to be the ones to take care of Iowa City's water? lIow long will they quarantee us that we always have water? We're not going to be here very long but we have kids and yrandklds and we want to bo sure that It's there for them, If Its there. And thero s Just lots of thIngs that we'd like to know why. lieD! Hrs. Knebel Knebel! They tell us that they haven't asked anybody whether they can como In when they have. And things like that. We're Just to a point that we really don't belIeve what they tell us. lieD! A couple of things Hrs, Knebel. First of all, I don't know, have you made the determination of where? That hasn't been fully decided yet? Ed were you going to say something on that? Brinton! I was going to say that as we get more data becauso one of the reasons that we're down there Is that we don't know much about It . SIDE 2 we'Just knew an area. A couple of weeks ago we know a section or a pIece of the township. Wo didn't know two months ago and so we did that blanket mailing to 200 and some IndivIduals to sort of let people know In the area that we think It Is this area. A couple of weeks ago they gave us I think they took a trip with the County Engr. and looked at about a dozen different sites and picked from that dozen about 5 possible sites so we're learning more as we go along too and 1 arologlze for not bolng moro exact about where we are going to be because we don t know yet". HcD! Tho final determination hasn't been made yet? Brinton! rio, we're trying to find some sites. lieD! Okay. Just to answer a couple other of your questions Hrs. Knebel. When we I think a year or a year and a half ago when we contracted with the lIoward R. Greene company there first charge was to see If any water existed. That's how we got started on this particular project. This Is how this was discovered. Thirdly what guarantees do you have that there will always be water there I think as the City Atty. said & the Public Works Dlr. there's no tlmo lImit on this. Again, first of all we haven't even come closo to making any kind of decision as to whether or not this Is golng....we don't know. We need a lot more Inform. atlon before those decIsions are made but say sometIme In the future that decIsion lIS Poge 9 lleD/ Knobl! 1/ lleD/ Larson/ Cour t/ Brlnton/ Kubby/ n 0 q s e ,\ I Icont.lwAs made thore Is no tine limit concerning the surrounding proporty owners S ~ undorstandtng. That would bo If It would IMpact on the surrounding property owners WAter supply that has to be taken care of, we ore rosponslble for that. I allan Itls not a one yoar, two yoar, five years, Its a forovor type of situation so that NO would ultlNtely bo rosponslble for ony type of Impact that would take place. I donlt see how monitorIng one or two wells for even a length of time Is gOing to tell CI how DUch wat.r thoy are goIng to tako from under the ground when they get all those wells that thoy aro goIng to make. Itls 0 lot of difference between 000 and a whole field full of thCl. Well to tell you the truth Mrs. Knebol I don't understand a lot of It olther. 8ut 11m hopefully that tho peoplo that wo aro paying do havo that oxpertlso and will be able to tell us boforo we mako ony kinds of decisions. I think the Council feels like wo couldn't do somethIng unless we had that kInd of Informatfon. Ed Is there an answer to that. lIow thoso monitorIng wells tell us that? I think the best answer Is that no one can predict that. No one can predIct exactly what the long .term tho reoson for all the monitoring wells and all the tostlng Is to do the best Job. And to be able to toll what Is happenIng and that Is the real value of the monitoring of the wells allover tho neighborhoOd allover the area so that you can monitor and keep tract of whatls gOing on. Without tho nonltorlng wells yo~ donlt havo any Information to measuro It against. There Is another, you asked tho last time I was hero, about this prlortty system and Ed pointed out to me whon ho came back from his trip to Dos Moines, In the report the plan that you have and that wo havo dlstrlbutod to tho community In the library and at IlIlls 8ank, In our soctfon called wnon structural conslderattons. there Is this conservatIon pIon. In tho conservation plan which wo borrowed from C~ar Rapids and thoy got from Dos Molnos Is a section called wPrlorlty Allocation SystemW and this prlorty allocatIon system came from the state and Identlflos tho priority levols of.who has first, second, thIrd and fourth and tho very first priority Is self supplY.domestfc. Illghost priority small generall non regulated solf supplied withdrawals usually serving rural aroas. They have a limited ability to shek other wator resourcos because of geographic location. It has the top priorIty. Second domestic fractions of munIcipal systems. Third Is livestock. rourth Is power. Industry,non traditIonal Irrigation, Irrigation, recreation and llosuro. That's tho stuff that we aro werkIng wtth now. It's In your plan, Itls In tho copy that thoy have as well. It would, I think, maybo help. Thanks. Lila Dalleyl rlrst of all I want to glvo this to your City Attorney. Thoso woro coplos of tho potlttons that has boon circulated In the communIty objecting to this study. Now I understand what you aro tryIng to toll us and I understand that thero Is nothing finalized at thts poInt. I would Ilko to mako a suggostlon, howovor, that I thtnk would ,allay a great many of tho fears and aprehenslons of people Involved In this. lleDI H4dam, 11m sorry can you Idontlfy yoursolf. I'm Lila Dalloy from 11l1ls and I would lIko to suggost that tho Council draw up a fonnat that wo could uso as a guldo In tho ovont that thoso wolls aro drtllod 1\5 Pago 10 8alloy I KubbYI Ba 11 oYI KubbYI BalloYI Larsonl Ba 11 oYI Larsonl BalloYI Larsonl HeOI GentrYI BalloYI HcDI Ba 11 oYI HcDI GontrYI HcDI 1I01llngl HcDI OalloYI noqS~' (cont.)that thoro Is an Intorfornco wIth tho wator tabl. because I'll tell you . frankly we do not enjoy tho prospect of having 0 hassle with the DNR to be compensated for thIs. Thts Is one of the bId a~Prthenstons thot wa hove. So If we could havo SMe guIdance, IMe hllp on th4t scorl It would bo trOlllOndously beneficial. You ll1ean a fOl'1ll.lt as to " you nolfce SMe changes what you do first. IIho you call. \/hat nlJ1lber... Exactly. Who you would speaking with. Yea. I think all tho D1IR does, I'vo loeked thru thl suck of 100 pages or so that our City Atty. has that the law sets out how you do It. how you figure out If It has affected your well. I've got their comprehensive well guide and Its Just greek to somebody that h.sn't workod with it. That's right and I think we could very easily put together a plan to show poople what you do If you suspect that you ara having perfonlAnce problOls with your wall because of CI ty. , Cause you have to prove Its because of the other 11I1 Is.. . That would be tremendously reassurIng to.us. I think that would be faIrly easy to do. I don't think that'would be a problem. . , I think that botween Chuck. and Ed. and II.R. Greene we could boll It down to make It not so complicated. Yes. Put It In a simple form so I can understand It and the layperson can understand It. I think that's a good Idea. Okay. And I t~lnk wo could put sMethlng like that togother- I think that's reasonable. Chuck. wo wouldn't havo a prOblem with that? Dale wo can start on that can't we? I don't see any prOblem at all. Okay. Thank you. That would help alot. GentrYI Yes I agreo. '\ 1 lIS Page 11 rl Ct cl ~, L, ,\ I HeDI Thank you. JIm Sladekl I'm JIm Sladek from Route 5, Iowa CIty, and I have 0 couple of cOlll1lOnts. I guess first, you mentIoned that we have to prove that the CIty water wells ore Impacting ~ well. So If ~ woll goes dry I have to prove thot the City has drained ~ well bofore I have any compensatIon. Now what Is ~ livestock gOing , to do In the perIod while I'll going thru all these regulotfons trying to prove that your well dried up ~ woll. Ed, do you have any...1 don't think It's quIte thot harsh. Do I call you or what do I do? I'm afraid I wouldn't be of any help to you. I'd sure try and find someone who would help you. W~~t would happen Ed under Hr. Sladek scenarIo? HeDI Sladekl HeDI Brlntonl HeDI Sladekl Novicki S ladekl NovIcki Sladekl NoviCki Sladekl NoviCki Sladekl Larsonl That's a very good question and as I read the, I started reodlng the same stuff that Randy was reading I don't think It Is as clear as we could IIltIke It. We could IIltIke It better. We know that In the City when we've had water anorgencles that we've done a lot of things that weren't written on how to h.lp people with water and we could IIltIke It better. That would be a local pOlicy. It wouldn't be something that DNR saId you will do. So thoy wouldn't 'have to go thru that hassle of trying to I notIced on that list of prioritIes that livestock came third. ResidentIal use was first. Resldentlal people, I mean, I can go to town or I could go .Isewhere and get water;. Confinement livestock you've got to have a supply ther. and I think the order Is out of wac there for sure. Hr. Sladek since I am not a fann person would you explain to me how a well would go dry wlthout.some gradual depletion. Would It happen that sudden? When the water gets below the well head It stops and you have no IndIcation. . I'm asking would It slow down to some extent? , I'm not an expert but I would say not necessarily so. Dkay. I think In 1988 In some areas In southern Iowa when wells went dry It was from having water to no water. Okay. And my second comment would be that tt seoms to me Is the reason that you want our water Isn't because you don't have the resources In the city limIts but because our water Is cheaper than the the cost of taktng our water Is cheaper than the cost of fixing your own resource wtthln the cIty llmtts. I thtnk there Is technology available that can fix your own problem Instead of havIng me gIven my water to fIx your problem. That's all. I Just want to address those two concerns and I understand your feeltngs. The frame of reference or the perspectIve that I think everybody has to have ts that It Isn't anybody's water. I've gelng to get more satIsfaction from the City than the DNR? Well I don't understand that attitude at 011. If someone calls mo they get satlsfactlen rIght away and what I think that Ed Brinton Is trying to toll you Is that we would establish these procedures so that people did get satIsfaction IlIIlIQdlately. . And yeu mean we can do that In some kInd of legally binding way? Like ,:.sald Its a policy decision that we could adopt, so yes, we can address that. I can't ImagIne CouncIl saying that If someone's well went dry because of our well production that they then have to go thru some long process and their cattle are without water for any tIme I can't either. That's just not going to happen. I moan the price of getting water out to that site Is not expensive for us. HeD! Yes sir dId you want to IMke a cOll'lllent? HArC Bock!l wore my special shirt tonight. I run Bock's Berry Farm. If any of you have been down on Sand Road we sell prOduce In Iowa and also provIde a place for tourIst to como. I'vo got a couple of Items to sfeak to. I agree with JIm here on a few points only 11m lower on the priority 1st than you are. In terms of crop and fruit production. Several things. Number one I spent several thousand dollars this year puttIng down a well because the creek that I pump out of legally from the DNR permiSSion has' been up and down so badly that I decIded to spend the money and put a well In. And the well drf11er who grew up putting In wells In the area sa,ld no problem wo can get you, what I needed, which was 250 gal loons, a minute to Irrigate what I needed to do. We put down the well and there wasn't eneugh water. When there's not enough water In the well, lIke JIm suggested, there's nothing. You suck down to the well head and If there's not enough water left In the well 115 Page 12 Sladek! Larson! Sladek! Larson! Sladek! Larson! Sladek! Lorson! Sladek! Larson! kubby! HeD! Larsonl 1I0ro! ' Larson! nClq~,S II Well, If you have to condemn my farm to take It I look at It as my water. And If I run out and live never run out before and If I run out I'm running out of my water. I unders tand.. . It's your fault. Not my fault. I understand that and we are responsIble for providing you with water If that happens. The same quality of water? Exactly, exactly. Who determInes that? What I am saying Is that I don't think It Is necessary to call the DUR and say will you folks come out and make sure I get water replaced cause I wouldn't call them for anythIng. I DIOan we have dealt with them over the years enough to know that you're just not going to get any satIsfactIon from them unless then In a years tlmo.... 115 pago 13 Bock! Larson! Bock! Cour t! Bock! LArson! Brinton! Court! Brinton! Court! Brinton! Courtl Novick! Brinton! n 0 q S b ,I I (cont.llt's gone. I mean Its dry. You don't havo 0 warnIng perIod. 50 we stuck down a second well at my cost and wo measured the level In one well whIle we sucked on tho othor well to see what would happen and he said It drew down a little bit, no probl~. Wo put manifolds, or connected both wolls together, and you'll havo plenty of water. We dId that and did not have enough water. Put down 0 third woll. 5amo thing. "at enough water. Put down the fourth well. All the tIme measuring the levols In the other wells that we hod prevIously drilled. And so I stili don't have enough wator. Pleue don't telllllO you had lIoward R. Greene doIng all of this. "0, but ~ quostlons Is this then how can you prove that drawIng on a number of wells what the lovols aro going to be elsewhero particularly at a drought tIme versus a very rainy time of year and I don't know. Is tho teChnology there to do that bottor than a woll drlllor who's had a life tlmo of experience. lIow deep wero you going on tho well? I was about 30 feot on all four welh. , Can you answor that Ed? I just know that that's hOlllt's done. That they do drill a production woll, a full scale production well, and put In sevoral monitorIng wolls around It and also monitor anyono's well that Is In tho vaclnlty which Is of a simIlar con. structlon and then pump tho woll for a porlod of tlmo measuring tho pumping rate and the draw down and In our case wo expect to pump for a weok In each well, Hot for 6 hours, not for 8 hours, but for a week. Then develop the mathlmatlcal modol and use that to predIct. And It Is a predIction. It Is not an absolute sclenco. And wo're talking about Ed 250 footers? . !lot exactly sure buL the near onos are about 200 or 250 feet. Tho far ones are our best guess 350 feet. Tho far ones, the ones near lillis, wo don't have alot of data on this yot but we are expecting 1000 galloon. We are expecting large wells. If wo don't find more water than what this gentleman has we'll pack our bag and go homo. Wo'ro talking about an entirely dlfforent acqulfer then what he Is working with? I certainly hope so. Yea. One more questIon Ed. If wo had a woll 250 feot deop and If It woro near tho borry farm would wo then monitor his sources, his four wolls, as woll as ours? Absolutoly. Wo want to monitor evory slnglo woll whero wo can got pormlsslon. And ono of tho first things that lIoward R. Greene did was do this levol circuit thru tho country and a lot of folks got stirred up about that but ono of tho things that they dId was ostabllsh this bench markat circuit so they can measuro to a tenth of a foot.. .water lrvoh. And thoy aro on on tho sarno data so that all tho wolls aro put on the sarno data. lIS Pogo 14 Larsonl 80c k/ Larsonl Bockl HcOI Gon trYI HcOI Bockl Larsonl Bockl KubbYI Novicki -- ........~ .... noqS'-" l' I don't know what ossurances we can glvo you thot thoy are going to be ablo to monitor bettor than what your well driller con do. "m not so sure I c,re 'bout It being monitored as much as hovo tho w,ter thoro or I don't need to know th,t It's dropped a foot. I need to know that I have tho water thoro th.lt I need. And that I think legal counsol con glvo you a botter answer thin olthor of us con. Wo'ro relying on legal counsol telling us that we hovo to provldo that to you. Whothor It's hook you up to our plpos or build you a nOlI well or whatover It light be. But I would say thot our consultants saying that they are gOing to figure out for us whether the wator Is going to be thero for overybody are getting paid $460,000 so I hopo that they can do a good Job of It. Okay. Two lIlOre questfons I have. H.r 1, how can you provo cause and effect? And then like JII's cattle, If I got a fat'lll of ten acres of high cost plonts I can't walt for a week of drought to get thOlllwatered. I don't knOll hOll IIlany NatIonal Guard people can pour bottled water out there. I guess my last comment or question would be I have no prOblem with It portlcularly If you want to pump all the water and even draw us down as long as I hove 0 written somebody who can stand up behind It a written thing that soys I will buy your fann because It's not going to be worth anythIng ,If there's no Irrigation water. Well, agoln I think It gets back to by law you are protected Is that not correct Linda? Yes. I moan you are protected. We can not do that to you. Well, yea but I'm down here on the prIority list wIth... But don't get confused by that priority list. It doesn't IIlake any difference what you use the water for If wo cause you not to have It anymore you could be throwing It out on your gravel pit If you want, we have to give you a source of water. Yeo but like In Jim's case a week could be too long. Timing Is Important. I'm sure that It can bo the kind of situation where a legal written agreement for the easement could quarantee that would be by If you needed It. I mean all those kinds of things are possible. Sure. I mean like I say i'd vote yes to any well drilling as long as I had some guarantee that either I would have all the water I needed or somebody Is going to buy my fann for what It's worth In prime condition which It Is right now. HcOI Thank you. Gary Edenl Hayor HcDonald and Council I'm Gary Eden from southeast of IlIlls. I've got a question that doesn't directly deal with water supply to fanns but It klnda concerns me because I farm ground that It Is the acqulfer' proposed district south of Iltlls and I also farm Iond east of Iowa City In the other Iorger district that I was shown on a II14p sometfme back at a moetlng In 1I111s. ^ geologist that we had there that night filled us In on his feelings that posslblly the acqulfer Dockl 115 Page IS Edenl HcDI Brinton! HcD! Brinton! KubbYI Brl ntonl Kubby! n [I CI S E' I' (cont.) does exist down In the arta south of 1I111s at how deep ho NOS unsure. lie saId that again no data N4S actually .votlobl.. It light bo 1500 feet deep It IIlght be 111110 one Nay or another. lIho knows. fils feollng NIl th.t If they Indeed top Into that It Nas sealed, he felt possibly, In cloy or substance that made surface Imprevlsslvo to got down to thot deep as In regards to all the flOOding thot has gone on down ther. this SunDOr ond Nhat not. I guoss I donlt have too nuch understanding of all that yet but on the proparty e.st of Iowa City ot least on that lap showed. great largor number of squore Illes Involved th.t probably does not 1 t. obove tho .cqulrer district. Ills foollngs were that the recharge, I f there N4S NeIls ploced In th.t mo, llOuld hovo to blSlcly come froe surf.ce Nller Infl1lat!on thru the type of sotl that Ioys In that district Nhlch happens to be . f.lrly hlgh organIc type of sotl th.t con .bsorb soil readily. Also because of t.klng nust of the Nater froe tho surfoce to kept recharged he f.lt that If there s,y 30 wells ploced that the IlnllUl spacing on them light be os far .part os . quarter of . IIlle per NOll Nhlch you could see could Involve quite a large ore.. ~ question Is rogardlng tho use of ral'lll chemicals In that ma by fomrs that are pretty depandent on that at this time In that l.rge surfoce Nater Infiltration art. and Nhat kind of limItations or regulations evldentuolly light come down on ma and other fanners In that am If Indeed tho well field south of 11I11s dool not prove productive and they are forced to go elsONhere. Do you have an anSNer for thot Ed? Yea, I do. That's a good question. 11m sorry Gary but he hIS mare expert Is. but Nhat II' do up hero. The folks JrOllllloward R. Greene tell ma that Indeed to get the pOl1llt (or. well In an agriculture area that you 'have to hove an .greement IIlth the l.nd owner to restrict the allOunt o( chemIcals that ~re used IIlthln a certain dlst.nce o( the lIell and I can't emtly rOlllOlllbor that., I donI t knowllhether It Is 200 feet or 400 feet or something like that. But you c~nsate the (.nnor (or that. If there Is a loss o( productivity or change In productivity bec.use o( tho restrIction o( the use o( those chemlc.ls then that Is neg. at that tlDO and that becomes a permanent part, not only tho e.sement (or the lIell, the lond IIlthln that radIus around the lIel1. Th.t h.ppens. . So when lie total up how much all this 11111 cost I( lie end up doing It those (Igures will be p.rt o( that total? Yes. And I understand that those are not obsorbent (Igures that this Is routine business. ThltlS the lilY It Is done. Although I don't think thatls necessarily what lias Isked bec.use It's not Just using chernelals around the well but using chemicals at all I( the rechorgo o( the acqul(er If (rom sur(lce wlter permeating dOlln. That means It may end up belng,c.use there Is a lot o( people on Council that aro very concorned obout the quality o( water not only (rom standards but Just (or hovlng healthy lives, It could be that lie try and work with the County .nd work IIlth people to t.lk about that. To make sure that the quality, one o( the reasons that lie ore doing this Is tho quality o( water and I( there are things that could change that quality we will be or I 11111 be concerned about It. nClq~lq 115 " Poge 16 1 florol lIell you'd able to pick those traces up thru these monitoring SlII'4l1es right down. 8rlntonl lIe've already samples and we've already tested ond one of the obvIous ones right now Is that wo have vory low nitrates. And we dId some organic testIng but I can't remember now. And I think that Is In the report. And we wl11 do more organic testIng thru this phrase that we are In now. lie wl11 do some organic testIng. So one 01 the things that drew us to these areos Is that we didn't find traces of organic chemicals and we found low nitrates. The nitrates Is the chIef Indicator and we dIdn't fInd that. So we hod every Indication to thInk that this Is a better protected water. But that cloesn't preclude us from wanting to do better. Protect If for a longer term. Larsonl Ed Is your answer then that even though the water In tho ocqulfer In the region that he's concerned about premoates down from the surfoco that somehow doing that takes out the chemIcals? Brlntonl SomethIng happens. There Is an exchange or an attraction. Larsonl Compounded wIth. something else or whatever. Brlntonl lIell this water Is deeper too. This Is not what we call shallow water. This Is deeper wa ter. NovickI Are these chemicals IIlOre likely to be found shallow wells? Brlntonl Absolutely. Or wells that are poorly constructed. Larsonl Brlntonl Larsonl Brlntonl Larsonl Edenl Stuff that Is at 30 feet Is necessarily at 200 feet. Right. And secondarily the requirement with the ONR that you talked about having to restrict the application 200 feet or so from a well he's talking about over 30 square mIles maybe thatpremoates that. lie would not have authorIty outside the city limits to pass an ordInances or anything controlling the amount of things that they put on their fields. Even If we are gottlng water from a well that Is underneath their land we would not be able then to say to them oh by the way no more ..- on that field. That's my understanding. 1 don't know how we can pass an ordinance effecting their use of their land I guess. lIell I can see those areas Immcdlatoly around those wells as yes posslblly not adding chemical but when you start talking of drawing I guess I heard 7 or 8 million gallons a day from an area 6.8 miles square whatever It might Involve you'ro talking a greater draw down from surface sources any kind of water that has ever been Il1IMglned out thore by any type of fann operatIon and you are talking water being sucked down from the surface like a sponge. You1re not talking about water that Is below the ground 4.500 feet In a acqulfer that's a ready supply. You're talking of most of this coming from a surface recharge program where 200 feet may not be enough. It mIght be just say the whole area has to be chemIcal free. Nobody knows that at this point but some. n CI q b 0 ,I I lIS Page 17 Edenl (cont.)thlng that everybody out In that aroa Is sure got to have some foellngs about. And the peoploln Iowa City should also say maybe we're monItoring that the first couple of yoars,we haven't had that draw down sucking theso chemIcals down 200 feet, we haven't had tho pull to pull It down there. But with the rain fall and the amount of draw down who knows what's going to happen. There's no test I don't think that can prove that. larsonl And Is that an analysis that lIoward R. Greene would try to do based on surely we wouldn't be the first people to ever has this kind of process happen where the water Is sucked down as you describe and possible Increase condemnatIon occur because of that. That has to have happened allover the country. ,Would that be part of their analysts? To predict the risk of that happening? Brlntonl 1 don't think we have that In their contract yet to predict a long tenn change In the chemical content. We've got In the contract now to sample the water, and actually the City Is goIng to do the testing. We're going to have the Ilygenlc laboratory. We didn't ask them to predict long tenn and.... larsonl Doesn't seem like to me to be a sclentlc phenonenon that either happ~ns or doesn't and surely It has happened across the country If It does happen or If It doesn't happen. 8rlntonl We'll ask. We'll have to do more work. That's a good questIon. Carroll Edenl Well, 1 don't want to make this pOdium unanamlous with the Eden's but I happen to be Gary's dad. I'vo known John every sInce he's been a little boy. Ills grandpa used to stay with me when 1 lived In Iowa City so I've known the McDonald famtly for a long ttmo. Worked with hIm at University Hospital. But this Is beside the point. Along sIde eur fann Is a fann that was owned by the University of Iowa and my brother owns It today. At the tlmo he brought the fann the well that existed there at that tIme was 400 feet deep. lie had nothIng but constant prOblems with repaIr. After the wells gotten where they were good operative wells the taste and the quality of the water was not drinkable even. And he's had constant prOblems with that. Orllllng Into that lwoer acqulfer posslblly a little over 400 feet deep. I'm sure that the Unvlerslty of Iowa has some data and statIstics on what the depth of that well was and what they found when they started drIlling there. Right along side that In our fIeld lays right next to the back of his barn used to be an old lake bed. My wife's grandmother and grandfather sold the Indians trapped that area for furs yoar around. Right along side the back of hIs barn and why should they have to go 400 feet deep In order to get an adequate supply of water. Another question Is have you considered consulting the latta well drillIng firm. They are three generatIons old. And If they don't have some data that they can make readily available to you I'm surethat there Isn't any avaIlable. Another question that I have If the yeh whos up at tho CoralvIlle reservols, If you'll excuse my english, Insist on maintaining the level of that lake so that boaters can always be assured ef having a place for recreation have you considered the pOSSibility of laying a large pipe underground Into that lake and drawing water from there. If they maintain It llkethey have when we were getting that 13000 cubic feet a second If they would maintaIn It like that and just keep It at that lovel you'd have enough water there to last you forever. And It wouldn't hurt us a bit. Another thing that I was going to tell you the fann that I live on an old well was lIS P.ge 18 Edenl HeDI Edenl HeDI Edenl HeDI Edenl HeDI Edenl HeDI n CI CI b ' , ,I I (cont.)drlven thore with .n Inch .nd . h.l' pipe 21 'eet deep In the ground .nd th.t wos there bo'ore ~ wl'e w.s born .nd I don't know who, yes I do, I thInk there ..... . 'ell. who lived down to River Junctton, Knox Pine. If I'm not mls. liken. lie drove that point down .nd th.t supplied .nd the water ond good cold ...ater that wo ever ...anted. In '.ct I run . ground water he.t pump 'rom th.t source 0' water. It would pump IS g.llons . minute const.ntly. We never could dr.w It down. 8ut what will th.t do to me In the event th.t these test wells are put there ond 'Ind It has lowered the ....ter table enough so th.t we can't use those wells .nymore. I'm sure there .re a lot 0' people In this .udlence that are Just as concerned about th.t as I 'm. Especially those people In IIllls th.t h.ve those sh.llow wells. Th.t's .11 I hovo to soy. Carroll, one questIon, the 'arm th.t your brother owns th.t the UniversIty owned you saId when you stortod out. Wh.t did the University do with th.t? What were they doing? I thInk It w.s brought back In the deprosslon d.ys as well maybe th.t h.d meney .... Crop production or wero they doIng some testing os '.r..? No, I think that they Just brought It as Incentive or . place to put there money .t the tlllO. Dh. There's another one that they own th.t's right over the 'ence 'rom our '.nn. To the west. The Murphy's '.rm th.t '.rm I' I'm not mlst.ken ond It w.s owned ' by the University too. Ok.y. Th.nks Carroll. Call on me .nytlme I' you h.ve more questIons I've been there 'or 50 some ye.rs .nd ~ ...Ife lived there all her life so she could tell you somethIng .bout It. Thank you Carro II. Sus.n FreYI HY n.me Is Sus.n Frey and I'm a I....yer from low. CIty and I reprosent . group rur.1 Johnson County resldnets many 0' ...hom live In or .round tho two proposed well dovelopment ore.s. I h.ve some questIons .bout the l.ngu.ge of tho proposed resolution. When I pIcked thIs up this ovenlng qulto fr.nkly I ....s surprIsed by the I.ng.ug.e of the resolutIon .nd I h.ve some concorns .bout It. HY. rtrst questlon Is 'or the CIty Attornoy. Old the CIty leg.1 sllff h.ve tho opportunIty to revIew the I.ngu.ge of tho resolution? Yes. Gentryl FroYI Gentryl FreYI Very recently? Yes. Tho re.son I .sk Is this. On July 18th, last Thursday, I mot ...lth Chuck Schmadeke .nd Steve Atkins .t tho City's requost .nd I'll describe what tr.nsprlred .t the meeting but brIefly tho substance of that discussIon Is sImply not re'lected In tho l.ngaugo of this resolutIon. We talked about .n agreement between the City 115 Pago 1 g Froy! Kubby! ....--......--- - r-- -- - --....- n [I q b e II (cont.)and ~ cllonts, tho prlvato property ownors tn thIs areo. Talked about on agroement thot would have a durotlon of 18 nonths. Certainly had a ftnlto porlOd. I think by anyono's standards It would have beon cons towed as a tl.'Olporary right of entry or 0 tl.'OlpGrory moment. Thoro 1145 no discussion of po~nent acquisition of oosoments or tostlng of Indotonalnent duratIon whatsoever. Tho agreement lias couched tn tenns of a temporary porlod, an 18 nonth period, of tlmo In which tho property owner was not left IIlth obligations. We also discussed that tho agroement would Include nog. botllfon tho proporty owners and tho City offIcials. So that Is IY concern. Thot this resolutIon talks about neg. tho purchoso of easements for the construction of the so wolls ond In tho ovent that tho neg. Is successful to executo po~nent \lOll oosements & pe~nent accoss oasement agreements. And In the ovent that tho easements can't bo acqulrod by neg. and then tho City Atty. Is authorized to commenco condemnation procoedlngs. So IlIanted to Infonn the City Council thot tho substonco oIlY DOellng IIlth Steve and Chuck was of 0 tl.'Olporary oasement or tfClporary rIght of ontry nature and does not translate Into this rosolutlon. Chuck Is that your understanding of IIhat lias talked about ot the mootIng? SChmadeko! Yos we dId discuss temporary oasements. It Is on option that 110 aro consldorlng and In fact 110 are proparlng some temporory easomont language but our proforence Is to go IIlth tho po~nent easement. Wo'r. oolng to spend $3000 to $5000 on each one of thoso lIells and \10 prefor pe~nent easements. But lie are keeping the option opon to nog. for temporory easomonts. Kubby! Was that explaIned at tho moetlng IIhoro Susan lias? That the proference lias for ponnonent? Schmadek.! I donlt think that 110 talked to that degree at tho mooting. Larson! One thing, It appoars to DO Susan Is that "' lIant to do thoso things and decide If 110 are going to spond thIs $SO nllllon to dovelop these lIells and If we decIde not to do that then It mayor may not be any reason for permanent oase. monts. So I thInk that Chuck Is right I thInk to have the option of lOOking at both the temporary and pormanent I moan I think that's up to them so long as we're talking about neg. I assume that thore Is somewhat dlfforent prIces In. vOlved with temporary and po~nent. Gentry! Susan, In rosponse to your question, I lIasn't ot the moetlng ObvIously. The resolutIon does not preclUde something less than Intruslvo and less restrIctive and 11m sure that you will agree. ThIs gIves the authority to go beyond the temporary but It does not preclude us from neg. temporary and In fact It Is explelslvo In tho authority. And Chuck and I and tho Hayor havo talkod about In fact I am draftIng several vorslons of documents that Ed Brinton Is goIng to bo presontlng to poople and some of them Include temporary limited with 0 cortaln months duration. Ah huh. (yos) Frey! Larson! Frey! Larson! I think you can also see whero there might be an advontage to the City to have permanent easements because once we have an Investmont of puttIng that well In there when that temporary easement runs out now our neg. positIons are somewhat dIfferent. We hovo an tnveslmont there. Yes. It just m~y mako oconomlc sense to buy a permanent easement to begin with If 115 Page 20 n CI q b ~, Larsonl (cont.)that's agreeable with the property owner anyway. Freyl Yes, I can see your point there. Hy point though Is that It seems logical to begin with temporary rIght of entry or the temporary eas~nt agreement ond really ~ purposo In mdklng the comment was to InfonD the Council that that was the substance of the talk and not In tenns of language of this resolution. And that was a surprise to me and ~ clients and we wonted you to know It. Gentryl Susan I'm always avolloble by telephone or meeting If you ever want to sit down and talk about this with mo. FrYI Okay, alright, thank you. Terry Krulsel Thought you were done dIdn't you? Krulsel Then why can't you recycle It and use again and only add for the evoporatlon and the loss to the pipe and so forth. You know we're Into the age of recycling and I see or I can't see why you can't reuse that water and save yourself a lot of expense. Now If or It shoul~ bo whatever you put Into that river should be better than what you aro taking out I assumo when you get done treating It. And so It should cost less to treat It to uso It again. I can't believe that there Isn't bed rock under Iowa City where you can drill a well to get your own water. Condemn someone property here first. I would encourage ~ neighbors In rural Johnson County not to eviln talk about ea5l'll1Onts or the right to drl11 wells. It would bo I'm sorry we're not Interested. Look In your own property first. I don't go to ~ neighbors If ~ well goes dry. I go on ~ own property and drill another one until I fInd water. And I would suggest that you do the same first. I don't know Ed do you want answer Hr. Krulse. In some parts of the world when people are desperate and some drought conditions wastewater Is recycled but only as the very, very, very last option. In our case there are a lot of chlorIdes from the sodIum chloride that most people use when they have their water softner and we can not remove chlorides economically at all. The nitrates are never removed. We Just recycle the same nitrates. Sulfates are not removed. There are a lot of salts that are added In the comm. . unity that end up In the wastewater that are not easily removed. They can be removed If you have a water treatment like you have on a submarine or a space Ship but not a municipal system. Not long term. And not a good solution. In terms of using our own water, wo are USing water out of the bed rock of the City. We are using this Jordan water all the time. We hope soon to be using sularln water and using that to blend with the other waters. It Is that at thIs time and wIth our InvestigatIon It looks like there Is not enough of that water and of a quality that could meet the long term needs. We can get by today but If we double the amount of water use there Just Isn't enough to blend with the other waters to make It work. And that really Is what Is leading us outside of town. HcDI Krulsel HcDI . . HcDI Brlntonl I' No that's alright. Hy name Is Terry Krulse and I fanD south of 11Il1s about 4 or 5 miles and I also own some land along the river and the question that I am going to ask you may wonder how It's going to have anything to do with wells but whit Is the purety of the water that leaves your sewage plant? I mean Is It better than the water that you get In out of the river? I would assume that It would have to be. Yes. -...... --~ ..... noQbL, 1\5 Poge 21 Larson! I think that t a common question and a very Importont answer Is that we would like to take water from Inside the city limits. It would be much easier and cheaper and more neighborly and everything. lie can not do thot. Audience! Now he just said you don't have on adequate supply down there thot you thInk can moet your needs? 8rlnton! There Is not enough good quality water to meet the drinking water standards with reasonable treatment processes. If we had the kind of a treabnent process that you'd have like In Soudl Arabla...you could do It. Audience! I'm talking about ....pressure from underground sources? Brinton! No, thore Is not. There Is not adequate qualIty or quanlty under Iowa City to meot our needs. Audience! Why would there be any more ~Jt In our way and then you are going to run us dry to meet your needs? . 8rlnton! That Is not our Intent. Larson! But what Is the reason that there Is more down there? 8rlnton! Because the geology Is different. Larson! There Is a big pool of water down there that we don't have under us. Brlntonl The geology changes a lot everywhere. It changes a lot In the mld.west. It changes a lot In Johnson County and 2.3 miles can make all the difference. If on the east side of town sularln water Is good, the west side Is bad. It chang.s. It's different. Larry Schottl Hy nama Is Larry Schott and I live down by IlIlls and farm. From II\Y understanding you say It Is going to cost $25 million to fix the wells or put your ...or whatever plant up' there. It's going to cost approximately $15 million on this deal down hero. Hy question would be Is It possible with all these observation wells that there can be contamination and If there Is how do you reverse It? And If that would happen how far would $10 million dollars go? Hy second question would be how wl11 It affect our lifestyles In rural corrmJnltles and our farming practices? I know that this has been discussed but we raise livestock. Te back.up just a little bit you people were talking just a little earlier about the nitrates and I'm glad to see that you are takIng a little bit of the blame for It. lIe've taken It for quite a few years and klnda glad to see somebody else knows that they did something besides us. Also I heard larger numbers that some of the numbers that were thrown around. Haybethey were just stories. I heard that they were planning en getting upto 14 million gallon a day pumped out down there. Iowa City Is expanding every day. And you also said tonight that you were planning on putting IlIlls If they meant It or any of the rural area out there on It. lIow many more million gallon will that add? Third question, maybe I had the third one already, many of us out here from the rural communities... " I NEil TAPE 91.59 ;."." Itrm '15 pag. 22 Schottl ~~ ~~ ~~ Larry Schottl HcDI 80th Bromonl n CI q b 5 J , (cont.) for lond. Ifow muchwlll that bo worth, whenever we como and have no water underneath It. One ~re question, two, ten, fifty years from now, you've olready told us thero's no way to figure out how much water there Is down there. With one observotlon well or two down In our area or these other peoples orea, seven, thots not going to do a whole lot. When you start sticking 20 wells whatever Its going to toke to pump this kind of volume and In the future probably add ~ro ond amending your pIons, I have no understanding on who you guys are plannIng on toklng a 18.~nth period of time pumping 0 few little wells ond getting a pump down figuring out where we are going to be a hundred years from now. We all Ifave children, I'm sure you do too and there's no way I can ever understand It. Also, ~ last quostton, ~st of this ground In our area Is In the flood plaIn and people don't realize that. Tho nitrates you people aro putting In the river up here In your sewer plant whon the river floods will be on property. If the observation wells are on the floodplain and there Is rock around the observation wells that will not be much of 0 filtratIon process for that to get down In there so It ~y not be us ~y be Its your nitrates that are srewlng up the ground water thot goes back to ~ fIrst question, how would you ever reverse It? Ten HIlllon dollars to us Is alot of ~ney. to a city of this size I just can't see where It could evon be 0 payment. the people In this town pay plenty of taxes and were getting our share of It too and I just guess these little numbers like ten mIllion to you guys don't sound like very much ~ney. Thank you for your question bollev. me ten million dollars Is olot of money. Yes, Its about a fifth of our annual budget. In fact, I would sometime. next spring when we go through our budgeting session you'll have to come up and sit In on our Informal moetlng, We get In arguments about a thousand of dollars. I mean where a thousand, five thousand Is going to go or not go. so It Is alot of money, You have alot of questions and I think leglta~te ones I think that were In the pOSition we are because we have alot of questions also and thats what were trying to find some answers to at this particular time. I thIn the concerns you raised are very legItImate concerns If those turn out to be some of the things you stated, well some of your questIons wore al~st statements as to what happened then, If that particular scenarIo would develop we're not going to be pleased with that obviously and I would say that could change our whole approach and change our whole plan. We noed Information thats baslcolly what wore doing at this point, Is gathorlng Information. Just one more little thing. We live right there by 1I111s agaIn. Theres a little town thats got a little Casey Store there. for some little unknown reason theres been contaminants In the well water thoro. I don't know who the people are that got this fancy little shod there, but they been pumping water out of the ground and back Into the ground for several I'd say at least a year or two or maybe longer. They to this day, and It Is my understanding and 11m not making a statement here because I don't know for sure, that they to this day do not have the contaminant cleaned up. ThIs has proven to mo that this Is almost Impossible If the ground water does get contaminated Its almost ImpOSSible to clean It up. Thank you. Thank you. ~ name Is Oeth Bromen. I'm from south 1I111s. I just want to take just a few minutes not very long but we have alot of questions here that are unanswered alot of concerns to the members of the area that Is being talked about as far as the drilling and I think It would be to your advantage to try to clarify some of these questions before you act on this resolution. Draw up a clarification on how we n 0 q b b Ittl '15 ~n J I Beth BrODen/ (cont.) con opprooch If our wells do go dry what were to do If you could do this prior to enactment I think your public relations would be olot better bring everything up out Into the open. We feel down there that things have been hid from us ond 'f you could do thIs (or us Just a (ew more weeks or so that we (eel a whole lot better obout this. Thank you. Thank you. Hdy I .dd Just one brief comment. In response to what Beth had to say, I would also urge thot the Council not odopt the resolution In Its presently dro(ted fonn for the benefit o( ~ clients ond to cleor up ony misunderstanding. I think It would be extremely helpful I( the preliminary step of the agreement of a temporary right of entry or te~orary ease~nt be Included In the language of the resolution. When this fIrst hit the papers and we started tolklng obout how we were goIng to notify people and open lines of communlcotton I was thinking that we needed I oubllc meeting as soon os we sign the contract wtth Howard Green Company. Out now I'. beginning to thInk that we needed public Input even before the controct to kind o( Just outline what our needs were. What may be really base Itn outlIne that wo need nonltorlng wells and get SODe Input as to whot the content of the Investigation because I feel Ilk. theres olreody been at least one thing thats not In the contract that we might want to have answered that was brought up tontght and there might hove been SODe other things that people aren't saying or peopl. who aren't here tonight, may hove brought up. So last night we were really land basting the University about tho trees and I said we really need to klnda look at our own house and make sure our own house Is clean this Is one example where tonight has been a good lesson for mo to even have even publIc Input even before a contract like thIs. To make sure peoples concerns are goIng to be answered by studIes that wore going to spend alot o( money getting answers for. I really think that our Intentions are honorable,l fe.l a ltttle uncomfortable thaL the only public notificatIon besides the newspaper was a letter and I think that that letter was Important but I think It should have been 0 letter that also Invited people to a meeting ond whether thats one large moettng or (Ive of six smaller meetings that we should have done that and since we didn't I feel unable to vote on this ttll wo have publIc Infonnatlon. Because specIfIcally about thIs resolution gives right of condemnation and secondly because of the poInt that Susan Frey made about the understondlng from that meeting being temporary and so that point can get clarified. I for one even thouih I thtnk the studies are Important and I want us to go forward with them, I don t (eel comfortable dOing It yet until people get th.tr questions answered as much as we can even If It means that alot of them alot of the answers Is goIng to be we'll get some of those answers after this first phase. But alot of It Is going to be, where we are currently gettIng our water from, what our posslbtlltles are and why we have chosen thts option. I thtnk even that Infonmatlon need to get to people. SO I will find myself movtng to defer ond If that goes down then I will need to vote agatnst It not because the Intent of the city or the speCific project but I thtnk we need better communication. First of all, as you very well know, there ts nothIng that has been hIdden from the very beginning upon thts. And I...... You and I know that but the appearance of people whose ltvelthood are a seemIngly at stake, whit there Intentton that's In..... I feel a little uncomfortable though when you tmply that there might have been, and there certainly has not been on the part of the CouncIl bor on sto(fs plrt. ~~ Suson Frey/ Kubby/ HcD/ Kubby/ HcD/ But we could reword this couldn't WI to ell.lnate this phrase of condemnation... Sure, you could delete It... If the easements are not negotloted freely w.'ll brIng It back to Councilor somethIng that really says what WI mean? Schmadekel John, If , ~y address that Issue for a IOmOnt. 'f the right to condemnation Is In the resolution there are c.rtaln tax advantages to Individuals even when they negotiate. ' HcDI ' Tax advantages? Schmadek" 'think Linda could propbably better answer that. But If the threat of condemnotlon Is . thero,thero are tox advantages. Tax advantages. Item 115 Page 24 Kubby/ HcDI Kubbyl HcDI Kubbyl HcDI NovickI GentrYI NovickI HcDI GentrYI HcDI GentYI Horowltzl GentrYI HcDI n t] q b .-, ,I I I don't think thot thot's true either. I think that there was no Intent to hide onythlng, but what I'. tryIng to deal Nlth Nas I feel like NO could have boen . Ilttl. DOre foreslght(ul obout how people would reoct to the ordor o( the steps NO took. I think your right as for os there Is gonulne concern. I think that as NO go through this process and again NO are In the beginning stages thore are on oNful lot of decisions that would have to be ..de In order to get to the point to octually use that as a Nater supply. You ond , NIII probably be long gone fro. this body by the tIme those (Inal decisions could be made. There Is a process..... Are trying to ftlke a prediction or what? Ho, I'. Just t.lklng about tho time Involved. Thot seventh generation. Again, If , thought or I think If any ~er o( this Council felt thot there Nas goIng to hana anyone In anyway, have on adverse Impact on onyone In onywoy we would stop right now, but NO need Infonnatlon and thots why NOre at the point NO are. As far as the condemnation thing agoln thats goIng to be our decisIon, thats not goIng to be staffs. And I certaInly would want to I think It would take extremo clrcUlllstances to be forced to do that. But I ...... Yes there are. To the Individual property ONner. In fact when you drop a voluntary agreement In lieu of condemnatIon you word It In such a way so that someone can take advantage o( those tax advantages. There Is a difference. But It doesn't happen If the Nord condemnation Is not on tho resolution? It doesn't happen If It Is not In the agreement, there has to be some Implication that the....... CrazIest thing I ever heard of. n CI cl b E' ,\ us i Plge 25 Gentry/ lIe1\, I didn't crelte the law, John. I'm just I messenger. Llr/ John lIOuld you hive Iny problem Ilong with plsslng the resolution If thot's Council desire we Ilso direct that the procedures for dealing with ony hanD to I wlter supply be laid out Ind given to people before 110 go I~ further. Iloro/ That's what I would like. KeD/ ..\/here are you In the process of I moln hive you stlrted oog. yet or? Gentry/ No. KeD/ Ilow soon do you anticipate going out? SChmadeke/ I think Immediately after the County fair, 110 hod antlctpoted contacting people. Iloward R. Green lIOuld hove the Infonnatlon to us by then. Kubby/ HcD/ Maybe we need a booth at the County Fair' to answer questIons. lie tolked about. I moon there have been alot of good suggestions Il4de tonight about developing some typo of written fonnat/procedures. I don't anticipate It wouldn't toke us long to put something like this together? I moon with the kind of Infonnatlon .. Gentry/ Schamdeke/ No. KeD/ with the kind of Infonnatlon that I think Is being requested with Insw.rlng Ilot of the questions that we've helrd tonight. It would't toke us long to put SOllO. thing like that together. Even If we took action on this tonight something like that could be put together before you even start the neg. process. correct? Schmedeke/ That's right. Lor/ Lindo, what 1'm concerned with there Is reading thru the pack.t of how you prove the City caused the problem and what melsures need to be token and everything I think what's Ilso helpful Is that I didn't see anything In there obout what they do while you're proving those kinds of things and I think that's what people have os I concern Is that people may not hove the credit or the In pcoket ability to just go get water for their cottle If something stops. And If It stops one day and even If It tokes a week to get water I think It would be encumbered upon us to soy what you con do right that day so that you get your problem token core of Ind then we'1\ worry later on about who's ltoble for It. I moon It's not alot of money you'd be talking Ibout. You're talking about a few wells posslbl1y being affected and then needing water for I week. This just Isn't the kInd of money that gOing to cluse prOblems. And I'd lIke to toke that worry from people that they would not only be able to get recooped any damages that they hove but that they wouldn't hove to worry about having damages and they can get water while we hassle about whether It Is our fault or not. Does that make sense? Chuck, ore we going to need that at this stage of I moan I would want something like that written up and the polIcy adopted by the Council. Lor/ Okay, yea. In terms of If we are goIng to provide Intermediate osststance you know while the dispute Is being resolved I mean that's a cost concern that I think the Council should approve. I'd like to thInk they would want that before they figure out how much they want for their easement. People are gOing to have a different vIew what that easement Is worth If they know they're protected or If they think well the DNR protects us. That's two different states of mind for people. That's true. And I think that when we're neg. those easements they need to know that wo're going to stand behind the da~ges. I don't have any diffIculty at all seeIng the concerns of a fInal product here where we have wells that aro drawing 10 millIon plus gal loons a day or whatever the figure Is. I'm having a little bit of a problem seeing these great concerns with little 2 Inch pipe monItoring wells, how that can effect all of these wells In the county. I moan there's not that much water going to be pumped out of those. Wouldn't be a~ water. Not going to be pumped at all, Is It? I don't understand where the concerns are comIng on these monitoring wells. If wo were at the pOint of voting on drilling the whole project then I see where I'd be really concerned too. 8ut we wouldn't know to answer very ~ny of these questions without these monitoring wells. ~ow can we answer them. Schmadekel Can't. '15 ~~ U ~~ Larl GentrYI ~~ Courtl Larl ~~ Courtl n CI q b q J i HeDI Chuck, one final question. Does If we.don't take action on this tonight, If we would not, which I don't to delay our process because we're already Into It and we need as I stated It's an Infonmatlon gathering project does this put us behind schedule In a~ way? Schmadekel I,don't thInk so If action Is taken probably before the August recess. I thInk If we walt until... HeDI So It would be eIther tonight or a week from tonIght. Schmadekel Right. HcDI Or a week from tomorrow night at our special meeting. Schmadekel RIght. HcDI Okay. I Larl But walt a minute that specIal meeting Is not desIgned to be a fIve hour meotlng. HcDI No, It's not going to boo No. Larl This ono Is. 115 Pogo 21 HeD/ Gentry/ Frey/ Gentry/ Frey/ Gentry/ Frey/ Heo/ n t] Cr '-I 0 ,I I As (u as putting togethor the typo of thIng th.t ltO've bten raquasted to put togethor with tho In'ol1lltlon Ind the tlDO t.ble .nd with all o( those things that the peoplo hovo o.prossed some concern about tonight, I don't know, Dale Linda a~no con you glv. DO an Idea of how long I/O might be talking obout. ObViously this hos to be done by sta'(. Susan, do you ho~e any isarvelous SImples 0' these tOlllpOrary OISOIIlClnts that you .re w.ntlng your clients to sign up for. S.mples'are alw.ys o.sler to work wIth. You DOon . somple o( tho contracts? Yos. No. Well you and I need to chat. Okay. Well I thInk the other thIng... Gentry/ I havo lIlY own vorslons goIng and I'd like to run thOlt by you. Frey/ okey. HeD/ Well, I think even more than that I thInk LInda w.s the... , . Gentry/ HeD/ . Gentry/ HeD/ On tho fOl'Nt Lila had . good suggestion whon she mode that putting something like th.t together. I don't knOll I don't know If we can do It... You'll have to tell us how much tlmo, do you have an Ide. yet? Do you knOll? SChmadeke/ I think NO could do It prIor to .ny neg. HeD/ Okay. SChmadeke/ But I doubt whether NO could get It together HeD! In a NOek then? Schmadeke! Doubt whother w. could get It together prior to the resolution. HeD! Alright. So I( we pass the resolution with the InstructIon to sta(( that you would get that put tog.ther before you go out an sign any agreements with people? Schmadeke! RIght. HcD! That's what I neod to knOll. Thank you. Any other discussIon? Roll call. Lor! n CI q '-I ' 1 115 Pago 28 Kubby/ No. Lar/ Yos. HeD/ Yos. Nov/ Yos. hrtJ/ YOSt Court/ Yos. lIoro/ Yos. HeD/ Rosolutlon Is adoptod. " 1 Kubby voting no. Chair doclares a 5 IIllnuto rocess. " n CI . cl '-I e .1 i Agond. lowo Clly Clly CouncB Rooulor Councn Moollng July 23, 1001 P.g. 11 ITEM NO. 17 . 'II. I f>~ CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTlIORlZINO APPUCATlONS FOR 50 UMTS SECTION 8 EXlSTlNO HOUSINO UNITS lCERTlFICA TES OR VOUCHERSI AND REOUESTlNO FUNDS. ITEM NO. 18 . Comm.nl: Tho Dop.nm.nt 01 Housing .nd U,bon DovllopmtnllllUDI has pubnshad I no tic. ollund ,voilobWlY INOFAllor lho Vouchat and C.rlIIlc11. Progroml FYl00l. Ilolod on thl Hou.1ng AUlhorlty'a porlormanc. during tho pill yoora ond 1"ly 111I. up 01 pI.vIoUI .ddillon., 1111 tntldpolad thaI an Ippllc.llon lor .ddillonal until will roc.lv. lavorabl. consJdtrotlon. An .ppllclllon lor 50 IrOl.l\lnd'lIlg conlllcoloo or vouchlr. will be lubmI1tad. 5peclllc donor lmountlor. not known 01 thlltlma. Justlllcotlon lor tha.. unlto. wo hov.1n mill 01 424 nomoo on our ,pplovod wolllng III and an addlllonol 351 In ploCII.lng. thOll unlll wUI bo odmlnlsllrod by Ih.low. Clly Housing AulhorilV and will morlly bo on oxtonslon olth. ex'atlng plogrom .dmlnllllrod by lho Housing AUlhorilY. Action: j\H.I~t.1v J ~lk(.l," 0;;;- I 'I/- . .In) ,Iii''') ~ 'tD CONSIDER A MOTION smlNO A PU L1C HEARINO ON APPUCAnONS FOR eo UtfTS ar SEC1ION 8 EXISTflQ HOUR wnflCATES ~ VOUCHERS. Common!: Soctlon 403A.28, 51010 Codo 01 low., roqulltl lhal . publlo hoorlng bo hold concornlng thll Ippllclllcn ond IhItlho nollc. 01 pubGo hOlrlng b. pubnlhld otloDll 15 dOYI prior 10 tho dOlO 101 lor tho h.stIng. RoquOlllho pubno hoorlng bo SOl lor Augu.1 20, 1001. So. plOvloUlllom lor proorom Ipoclllcl. ACllon: h1J,/~ I a.tL~ - CI cl '-I ~, II I tem 117 Kubby/ Ron how can 110 voto for this before lie sot a pUblfc hearing and had ft7 That doesn't make sense. Henderson/ It the applIcatIon process. ThIs Is a reoccurrIng bl.annually question that comes from the CouncIl. But lie havo to have a resolutIon to authorize the applIcatIon and then lie have the publIc hearIng and If at that poInt tho Council IIlshes not to accept an allard than they reject the award when It Is given. So what we are doing Is actually applyIng for, you have the consIderatIon and at the end of that then If we are awarding you wIll accept those. Kubby/ Okay. Henderson/ So thatls the process. Kubby/ Thanks. Henderson/ It seems,backwards but It works. Kubby/ Okay, thank you. HcD/ Any other dIscussIon? Roll call. i. . n CI q '-1 L, ,I I Agond. 10WI City City CouncU Rogullr CouncU Moollng Uy 23, 1801 P.g. 12 mM NO. 10. -2l.:..1~3 CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ON UNCLASSIFIED SALARIES AND COMPEN. SATlON FOR FISCAL YEAR 1992 FOR THE CITY MANAGER, CITY AnORNEV, AND CITY CLERK. Common\: ThII rosolullon 1011 Iho III000s lor th. Clly M.n.gor, City AlIornoy, .nd Clly Clork lor FV92 .. por tho ovoluollonl hold by th. Clly Council on July 8, 1991. ACllon: J.htlJ / ~....." . ( ~ % ITEM NO. 20 . CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 33, ARTICLE II, DIVISION 1, .GENERALLY' DIVISION 2, 'PRIVATE SEWAGE DISPOSAl.,' ..J/' a~03 AND DIVISION 5, 'BUILDING SEWER REQUIREMENTS AND INDUSmlAL WASTE CONTROL' Of THE CODE Of ORDINANCES Of THE CITY Of IOWA CfTY, IOWA, BY REPEALING CHAPTER 33. ARTICLE II, DIVISIONS 1, 2 AND 5 IN THEIR ENTIRETY AND ENACTING IN UEU THEREOf A NEW CHAPTER 33, ARTICLE II, DIVISION 1. IPIII.d end edoptldl Commonl: Rovl.lon. 10 thll ordlnonce or. nocullry 10 rollocl reconl Improvomonll 10 tho Clly'. WlllOwolor Iroolmonl works, .nd to comply with chonge. In 11010 .nd loderollow. 51gnlllconl rovlllon. Include Iho lollowlng: . Oov.rnmonloleoonclos ar. no lonoor oxompllrom th. provl.lonl 01 thll ordlnanco. . 51onlllconl Indullrlol ulor I. dollnod In PO" II . ulor wllh Wille 1I0wI In OXCOll 01 25,000 gollon. por doy Iprovloul 1Im11 WI' 50,000 gallon. por doyl. . RoOulollon. ponalnlno to prlvolo sowao. dl,pollIIYllOml. . Pollullnlllmlu .1 lOCh ollho Clly'. wlSlowOlOr troolmonl plonll. . Tho Dlroclor hlllho oUlhorlly to IlIuo pormlll accoptlno and limiting Indullrlol WIIIO dllchoroOl ltho Clly Council curronlly Issuo. pormll.l, . Action: .&nJ J ~ I p~a) ri'aM+tV ~ n CI q '-1 ~, ,I , Agtndl Iowo Clly City CouncJI fIeouIII CouncJI Milling JtJi 23, 1001 PIO. 13 ITlM NO. 21 . ~ CONSIDER AN ORDINANCI! AMENDINO CHAPTER 33, ARTlCLI! If, DMSION II, 'INDUSTRIAL WASTI! CONTROL.ADDITIONAL REOULATlONS. Of THI! COttOf ORDINANCES Of THI! CITY Of IOWA CITY, IOWA. BY REPEALlNO CHAPTER 33, ARTlCLI! II, DIVISION II, IN ITS ENTlRm AND ENACTlNO IN LIEU THEREOf A NEW CHAPTER 33, ARTlCLI! II, DIVISION 2. IP.II.d and .dopl.dl Convnant: Sa. Commonl 01 plocadlnO Itom. Acll4n: j.w.J. I 14t/1 I ~ tlllJ /hY) 7h ITlM NO. 22 . CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE INCREASINO IMPOSITION Of THE HOTEL AND MOTEL TAX IN AND FOR THE CITY Of IOWA CITY, JOHNSON COUNTY, IOWA, IfIRl conlldltlUonl Commenl: In 1082, I'lor .pproval 01 the votorl, the Clly Impoaad I live porc.nll!"l holol,mololl" on groll rocolpll 01 room ronts within tho city limit.. 51.1. low pormllltho t.x to bfllncrlllod 10 .ovon porCinI 17'" grOIl rocolpl', .glln only ,'tar .doptlon 011 city ordinance .nd lonowod by IPJlfOval by . majority Ollhol' vollrIg lor Ihelncrouo. If ,pplovod .1 tho g.neral el,cllon, tho Inctoue would I.k. ell.cI Jonuory " 1992. FIrlt con.ldor.tlon ollha ordlnonc. wID pormllth. Issu. 10 be .ubmlned 10 th. AucIllor lor pIoc.manl on tho Novembor 5, 1001 bonol. II I. IItlmolod thaI thl. 2" Incrou. will gonor.to .'00,000 por yur. ACllon: Cc.,1 .. A(/lfltrAili... f: J(1/111 IItttf_ 1/11 ITlM NO. 23 . 7ADJOURNMENT. r ~w I ~" I~' 10 I' lit ad~ n CI cl '-I b\' City of Iowa City MEMORANDUM I' i DATE: July 19, 1991 TO: City Council FRlIt: City ICanager RE: Vork SessIon Agend.s .nd Ke.tlng Schedulo July 22. 1991 Mondoy 6:30 P.H. - Special Council Heetlng - Council Chaftbers Separote Agenda posted 6:45 - 7:45 P.H. Council Vork Session - Council Chaftbers 6:45 P.H. - Review zonIng litters 7:00 P.H. - Highway I Vest widenIng project 7:15 P.H. - Pestlcld. Regulotlons 7:35 P.H. - Council agenda, Council tlDO, Council committee reports July 23, 1991 Tuesday 7:30 P.H. - Regular Council He.tlng - Council Chombers August 5, 1991 ,Mondoy COUNCIL VORK SESSION CANCELED August 6, 1991 Tuesd.y REGULAR COUNCIL KEETING CANCELED August 19, 1991 Monday 6:30 - 8:30 P.H. Council Vork Session. Council Chambers Agenda pending August 20, 1991 Tuesday 7:30 P.H. - Regular Council Heetlng - Council Chombers August 26, 1991 Monday 6:30 - 8:30 P.H. Council Work SessIon. CouncIl Chambers PEND I NG LI ST StormwAt.r HAnAgement Review Sales/SolIcitAtIon on City PlAZA Cigarette Ordinances Appointments to the llouslng COfI1lIlsslon ond HAyor's Youth Employment BOArd - August 20, 1991 Appointment to the 80Ard or Electrical ExamIners And Appeals. September 3, 1991