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Home My WebLink About1991-10-01 Agenda n / 0 ./ 0 , f , ; i i ! I I ~~ . f, f ,I I I IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL AGENDA , A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF OCTOBER 1.1991 7:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBERS. CIVIC CENTER 410 EAST WASHINGTON n I 0 '11 ITEM NO.1. CALL TO ORDER. ROLL CALL. SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS /J(Afc" ;;u.' ~V'" ,/tJJt~ 1J,1.,1t~~) ;it;re.V /kt'J.t,l'I ~"',M~ 'JPP~ ,f'HW ~V ~',./d.(...w ./4tp.J 11 AGENDA IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. OCTOBER '. 1991 7:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBERS ITEM NO.2. ITEM NO.3. I. P1l11nllllon bV DOT pllCIng \he CIIV of 10wI CIIV on lho 70" PLUS Honor Roll. 10wI CIIV h.. Ichllvod 70" ..llboll usa. b. P101ontlllon of Pollco Doplllmonl Commondolfono 10 Mt. Jim.. Mlngul Ind OrflcolI Clmpboll, Hanlon, Hull Ind KolllV fortholr 1110111 II In IccldonllCono In AUQulI. 1991 whlch rolullod In laving tho IIfa of In 10wI Cltv 'Ialdont. MAYOR'S PROCLAMATIONS ITEM NO.4. I. FlIO P1avonllon Woak. OClobor 8.12, 1991. b. Archltlcturo Woak . OClober 8,12, 1991. c. Enorgv Efflcloncv Wook. Octcber 14.20, 1991. d. Local Clbll P10grlmmlng Wllk . October 8,12. 1991. O. 10wI Cltv'l Offlclll Trick 01 Trill Night. betwoon dUlk Ind 8:30 PM, October 31,1991. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED OR AMENDED. I. Consldlr opproval of Official Council Ictlons of tho regular moollng of Soptombor 17, 1991, 01 publlshod, oubloCI 10 correcllonl, OIlOcommondod bV tho CIIV Clark. b. MlnUIOI of Boards and Commllllons. (11 Human Rlghls Commllllon maollng of Soplombor 23, 1991. 121 Porkl ond Racroollon Commllllon moollng of Soplom. bor4,1991. 131 AlrpolI Commission mOiling of Augull 20, 1991. 141 Planning and Zoning Commllllon mOiling 01 Soptom. bar 19, 1991. n I 0 '1 e -2a pagt I ,\ i MeDII OOUtVll that ~ hav. a rtpr~ntativt horo this mnlng to pr~nt thiS.,. _ .fJ Michael DiU Mr. Mayor, my namo Is Michael LJ1l' I rtpr~nt tho National IUghW3Y Trame Safety Admlnlstration's rfgtonal otflcoln KanS.ls City. I approclaro tho opportunlly to S~3k to you and tho council mtmbtrs and lho clUZtns of 10W3 City pr~nt thls.mnlng. Ono or our objoctivts In tho NationallllghW3Y Trame Saftly Admlnlstrauon Is to oncourago proper usage or safoly btlts ror thtlr uro saving and Injury prtvtnUon capablllUts. Wt hm tstabllshtd through Prtsldtnt Bush, and our own dlroctor. Jerry Curry, a goal of 70~ usago by 1992. a goal Which Is rather ambitious and vory hard to reach. But we'ro vory glad this mnlng to hm tho opportunity to pr~nt to tho first city In tho staro of Iowa tho 70 plus ptrctnlJgo award for having attalnod that usago perctntJgo far In advanco or almost any othor city In tho Unl~ Stattsand In advanco of tho stalt or Iowa Which Is currenUy In about tho mld.slxty perctntilo. Wo know that thoro are a lot or organlzaUons that art able to achieve 70~ usage OOcaUSf they have controlltd tnvironmonts. Military posts for examplo, somo corporaUons aro able to a Vtry good lob or controlling tht pooplt under their ausplcts. Wo know also lhatlt'a vtry\ dllflcult for ciUos WIth very dlvtrst populaUons to roach thtst porctnlJgts, of 70~ and btyond. Wo know too that the only way we can reach 70~ and boyond la by tho acUvt Involvtment or law onrorcement ortlcora and this has boon a conspicuous examplo of that herein Iowa City. Wo know that Chler Wlnklehakels very supporUve or safoly bolt usage programs In the city. Wo also know that Ortlctr Rick Wolss has boon vory acUveln promoUng this program throughout the city. So tonight it Is my vory aptClal prlvilego again to prtstnt to the first city In the stalt of Iowa. tho 70 plus porcont award on oohalt or tho NaUonallllghW3Y Trartlc Saroty AdmlnlslraUon and on oohalt of Prosldont Bush. McDl1 want to thank you vory much ror that award. That was an honor. I gUtsS I didn't reallzo ~ ~re doing so ~II, but I gUtsS It Is btcauso of tholnvolvtmtnt or a lot or our pooplo, and the support that ~ do have In this city. So ~ roally appreclalt your remarks. Thank you. n I 0 .1 ~I ,\ I -2b pago I McDI Chltr would you IIko to? Wlnklohakf/ Mr. Mayor and mfmbtrs of the council. It Is my prJvJlfgoto lfll you about this parUcular Incident I'd IIko to havo tho oltlcors It I could and Mr. Mingus, It you'd ploa~ como up hort. Como up In tho rront Mrt. Whllo thoy'ro making tholr way up hero Mr. Mayor, 111 ~II you What occur roo rathor than road oach ono or thtst. During tho mnlng hours or August II, ~ rocolvtd a call from an Individual Who was Injurtd In a blcyclo.motor vohlclo accldonl This particUlar Individual had btOn riding at a rather high ralt or spttd, hit tho roar or a van, and put tholr head through the rear window or a van. causing sovoro cuts and lacoraUons to tho faCt. Luckily for that individual. Mr. Mingus was nearby and has had numerous years of work In emergency rooms and was abltto bogln to stop tho now or blood. Tho oltlctrs were abloto arrlvo and they all took part In saving this Individuals 1110 bo(aU~ thoro was Vtry JllUo qutsUon that It It hadnl bOtn ror tho .rtorts of Mr. Mingus and tho rour oltlcors, this Individual would'Vt dltd. Tho .rtorts that thtst ortlcors mado, obvlouslY,ln the bost tradiUon of pollco sorvlco, and I think a spoclal thank you on our bthaU to Mr, Mingus and that's tho r&ason wo'd IIko to pr~nt him an award for dopartmental commendaUon along with the ortlcers. orflcer lIanson. McD/ CongralulaUons. Wlnklehakol Oltlcer campbOlI. McD/ CongralulaUons. Campbtll/ Thank you. Wlnklehako/ Oltlcer Hurt, McD/ CongratulaUons. Hurt/ Thank you. Wlnklehakt/ And one or our nO\mt ortlctrs that wo stolo rrom Coralvltlo, Oltlcor Kolsay, McDI Glad to have you. Kelsay/Thank you, very much. McD/ CongratulaUons to all 01 you. Thank you. n I 0 '1 LI Agondl Rogullr Council Mooting OClobor I, 1891 Pogo 2 ~ d, 0, ~ q,. ~'fPl c. Pormll Motlonl and ROIolullonl II Rocommondod bV Iho Cltv Clork, III ConsIdor I mOllon Ipprovlng I Clan .C. Boor Pormll for Kwlk Shop, Inc" dbo Kwlk Shop 1587, 820 Flrat Avonuo Soulh, IRonowall 121 ConsIdor I motion Ipprovlng I CIOII .C. UquOl Uconso fOl Voldor Enlorprllol, Inc" dbo Tho Quo, 211 10wI Avonuo, IRonowoll 131 Conlldor I motion Ipprovlng I Clan .C. Boer Pormll fOllnlond TrlnlpOlI Componv dbo KIrkwood 78, 300 Kirkwood Avonuo, 1R0nowall 141 Conl/der 0 mOllon opprovlng 0 Class .C. Uquor Uconso fOllowo CIIV Vochl Club, Inc, dbo lowo C/IV Vochl Club, 13 S, UM 51, IRonowal1 151 Conl/dor 0 mOl/on opprovlng I Class .C. Uquor Uconlo fOl Hilllop Tlvorn LId., dbo HiIIlop Loungo, 1100 N, Dodgo 51, lRonowal1 181 Conlldor 0 rololullon Issuing ClgarotlO Pormll, (,) Ju. .....,4'rt"oJ Motlonl, III Conlldor 0 motion 10 opprovo dlsbursomontl In Iho omounlof "',87-4,1-41.87 for Iho porlod of Augul11 Ihtough Augusl 31, 1991, 01 rocommandod bV tho Flnonco Dlroctor lubjocllo oudil.;,.~ ROlolutlonl. III Cons/dor 0 rosolullon occoptlng tho work for Iho Park Road Srldgo Plor Prolocllon Projocl, Commonl: 500 Ollochod Englnoor'l Raporl, 121 Consider rosolutlon occopllng Iho work for Iho aonl. lorv 10Wor, Itorm lowor ond paving Improvomontl for GolwoV HiIIl, Pori I. Commont: Soo ollachod Englnoor'. Roporl. -- - ,- - ,\ ! n I 0 I S City of Iowa City MEMORANDUM II DATE: Slpc.nber 30, 1991 TO: ",yor, Cley Council, C.n.rAl Public FROM: Cley Cltrk R E: Addlclona To ConIIne CAI.ndAr 4. c. (7) Conlldtr A noclon ApprovlnK A Cl..1 "c" Liquor Llc.nll ror nAIl aACcAn dbA ChinA PA1AC'. 21 Scur~11 Corn.r Dr. (K.nIVA1) 13.1. IIltcorlc Pru.rvAclon Comhllon . Ono VlcAncy ror I rtprtl.nclClvo or chi SUlDlc Scr..c Dllcrlcc ror In un.xplr.d C'fI .ndlnK MArch 29, 1992. (Dlvld Joplon rOII,n.d), Ind Ono unoxplrod C.ra ondln, Mly 29, \993. (Jlnol Ochl r.llln.d.) 4, d. (I) Conlld.r I DOclon co Ipprovo dllburl.ooncl In chi ~unc or '4,430,395.27 ror chi porlod or AUlulC 1 chrouKh AUKuIC 3\, 1991 01 r.cOla4nd.d by chi Flnlnco Dlr.ccor lubJ.cc co Audlc. (ktO t{.3b'~1 4110 PilI S~ ., _.I.. n I 0 ,I b Agond. R.gul., Council MOIling OClober 1, 1991 P.go 3 f, g. h, SOiling Public Hoorlng., III Consider ..lllng . public hoorlng fOl OClobor 15, 1991, on tho CIIV'I propo..d Comprohenslve HOUsing AIIOIdabililV Str.togV ICHASI. Commonl: low. ClIV Is roqulrod 10 proper. . CHAS In Older 10 be ollglblo for cOlllln fodor.1 fundi, Th. dONl\Onl.llo provld.. .n opporlunllV fOllho CIIV 10 r.vI.w .nd .ddrou III ."OId.blo houalng noada, Public Inpulll roqulrod .nd anv commonts rocolvod mUll bo .ddr....d In 1M flnol CHAS documonl. COIrolPondonco, III LOller from Tom Roynoldl rogordlng ullng walor 10 produco oloctrlcllV, Appllcotlono for U.. of Stro011 Ind Public Grounds. III Appllcltlon from lho Racquol Mollor 10 UIO public aldowalk for lho ..10 of morchondllo during \he Sldow.lk Sol.. aponlOlod bV Iho Downlown AIsoclo. lion on SOPlambor 20 ond 21,1991. lapprovod) 121 Appllcallon from Morv KOlhol fOllho UIO of tho 300 block of Loxlnglon Avonuo fOl 0 nolghbO/hood porlV on So pi amber 21, 1991. (.pprovodl (3) Appllcollon f,om Roglno High School fOltho ule of ItrOOts fOl I homocomlng porodo on SoplOmbo, 28, 1991. lapprovod) (41 Appllcollon f,om Iho Un/vorallV of lowo Homocomlng Council 10 UIO public llroot. for tho AMual Homo. coming Porode on OClobor 18. 1991. (opprovodl 151 Appllcollonl from Iho Downlown Alloclollon 10 UIO public Ildawalkl fOllho "Folllnlo Saving I" Sldowalk Solo on Saptombor 20 and 21, 1991, lopprovodl 181 Application from 10wI Cltv Road Rocol for pormllllon 10 UIO publiC ItrOll1 for tho 15th AMuol HOlplco ROld Raculo bo hold on OClobor 13, 1991. lap. provodl 1\ , I , i i I I I I I I I I " n I 0 .1 '-I Agondl RaglUr CMCII Mooting OClobor " 1991 Plgo .. I' I. Appllcltlons for CltV PlIII UIO Pormlll, 111 Appllcltlonl from lho Lolln Amorlcon HlIIIon Rlghll Advocacv Conlor 10 III up 0 11b!0 on Cltv PlIII during tho perlodl of Soplambor 18.22, 1991, ond Soptombor 23.29, 1991, from which 10 dlltrlbuto litoroluro ond ollor crolll for dOllltJono. lopprovodl y\ JI~I'J) / ~~ ~/' A,o;.), % .Jtu rtr4V END OF CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM NO. IS. PLANNING AND ZONING MAnERS. 0, Cons/dorlonlng 0 public heorlng fOl OClobor I D, 1991, on on OIdlnanco omondlng Chaptor 38, ontltlod .ZonIng Ordlnonco. of lho Codo 01 Ordlnancaa of lowo Cltv, lowo, bV omondlng Socllon 38.111ollhoroln 10 clorlfV non-conlOlmlng 101 IIOIUS In IOlltlonshlp 10 lho RM.12 lone dlmonalonoJ roqulromanll, Commonl: On Soptombor 19, 1991,tho Pllnnlng ond Zoning Commllalon votod 1S.o 10 rocommond omondlng tho Zoning Ordlnanco 10 cllrlfV lhallho vorlld dlmonllonol roqulromants of tho RM.12, Low Donaltv Mulll.Fomllv Roaldontlll Zone, ore not Intandod 10 permlllho croltlon of 0 non-confOlmlng lot 10 onoln hlghor dansltlol of dovolopmonl, Tho Commllalon'o rocommondatJon II conllltanl with tho 11111 poalllon on thls Itam, ACllon: _~~ /~~ all a'lLW [J b, Public hailing on on ordlnanco omandlng Iho Zoning Ordl. nonco bV condltlonollV changing iha land uso rogulollonl of opproxlmotolV 32.04 OCrol of land locotod out of SvcomOlo StrOll and wall of Granl Wood Elomonlarv School, from 10. RS 10 RS.D, lz.&0181 Commonl: Alltl moollng of JulV 18, 1991, tho PlnMlng and Zoning CommllSlon rocommondod, bV 0 voto of 4.0, approval 01 0 roquOSllubmlnod bV Frenll Conltructlon Inc" on boholf of Wllborl Fronll and tho Edith Franu Elloto, for a lonl chango lor opproxlmololv 32,04 acres of proporlV locOlod OIIt of Sycamore Strool and wall of Gronl Wood Elomontorv School from ID.RS 10 RS.D, lubloCllO tho osloblllhmanl of 0 . n I 0 ., EI 11 ConSORt talon<1ar pago I McD/Movtd by llov SfCondtd by Horow to accopl tho con$tnl calondar as amfndtd. D1scuS1lon. Kubby II havo a qutsUon for Marlon. I'm conctrned that wo makt sure tho Johnson Counly Health Dtpartmenl sonds InformaUon to the now clgaretlt permit holders, tspoclally bocauso alltasl one of them, tho new ono, not a renewal, Is that something ~ always do, ~ sond their namo and addr", to tho Johnson County Htalth Departmenl Karr I That's corrocl As a matltr or habit now, WtIat wt do Is ~ will noury them arter your approval with a form Iftltr giving the IIctn~'s namo and addross, and Ulty do sond out a pad:et or InformaUon. Kubby I Good, I'm glad ~ 6tarted doIng thall had anothor commont about the Comprehensive Housing Artordablllly Strattgy Public Hearing part of this resoluUon, In that public Input Is roqulred. Tho mostlntertsUng part ror mols that the 6trategy must addross any Issuos that PfOplo bring to us.SO I think that's rtallmportantto lot tho pUblic know that anythIng, any Issuts that you bring to us will 00 addrtssod, have to 00, McDI Any other discussion. RoU call. Tho rosoluUon Is adopted. I -i I I n I 0 ,./ Cf Agondo Rogular Coooc:lI Moallng OClobor " 1991 Pogo 5 ~ concfltlOlllI zoning ogreomonl which Itlpulal0lthol111ho CIIV utond Iho ..nllory lrunk lOwer, vlo 0 lap-on 100 ordlnonco, which would OOM tho lubloCI IraCI, ond 211ho dovalopor oblalnlng \he rlghll nocOllary 10 Uland Lokoaldo Drlvo, Tho Commllalon'l racommondollon Is consJ.tonl wllh tho 11111 momOlandum dalod June 13, 1991. ThlI hearing wu conllnuod from \he Soplombor 17. 1991, Council mooting, No commanll rogarding Ihls Opp/iCllion woro rocolvod bV lho Council 01 tho Soplomber 3 ond Soplombor 17, 1991, public hoarlngl, Slall II continuing 10 nogollalo 0 condlllOlllI zoning ogroomont with tho opplicant. ACllon: \1. ~W a~~,..P~ .. I . APMtl ~.~ ~ /Dill( AQ ~~ c, Conaldor 0 rololUllon amondlng the Comprohanalva Plan 10 chongalholond UIO clasalllcallon fOl LotllS.19 of Bellav ond Bock Addition from Ganarol Commorclallo ROlldonllal12.B dwolling unIll por ocrol. ACllon: Commont: On AUQul1 16, 1991, bV 0 voto of 8~, tho Planning and Zoning Commllalon recommondod adoption of on omandmonllo Iho Comprohenllvo Plan 10 chongo Iho land UIO clllllllcotlon of tho 0111 aldo 01 Hud.on Avonuo, LOll 18. 19 of Ballov and Beck Addition, from Ganerol Commercial 10 Raaldonllal12.B dwolling unIll por acroland 10 rollln tho land UIO clllalflcollon of tho WOlllldo of Hud.on Avanuo, LOI 22 of BelloV ond Bock Addition, 01 Gonarol Commorclal, Tho Commllalon'o racommondallon II contrary with Iho Ilall roport dalad Juno 20, 1991. Sloll racommondod Ihatlho Comprahonalvo PIon continuo 10 dOllgnato LOll 18.19 ond 22 of BelloV and Bock Addlllon 01 Ganaral Commercial, Com. monll rogardlng Ihllltom ware rocolvad bV tho Council at tho SoplOmbor 17, 1991, publlo hoarlng, j),~/, / M.'f) I .JL. . 51. (~lJIf 101 _'I.1.:.J6C1 ~ Con.lder 0 rololullon approving tho prellmlnarv and final Largo Scolo Non.Ro.ldonllol Dovolopmont plan for LOI B of Block 2 loxcopllho 00.1150 foaltharoofl, TowncrOlt Addlllon, IS. 90091 d, Common\: On MoV 3, 1990, bV 0 vola 01 8.1 (Cook voting In tho nogallvol, tho Planning and Zoning Commission rocom. mondod opprovol of tho Largo Scola Non.Rolldonllal Dovolop. monl pion lLSNRDllor LOI B 01 Block 2 (moPllho 0011150 --- "It, I ~r m'~ -~ - ,\ I n I 0 e 0 .\ .~ page I McDI Movod by Ambr, StConded by lIorow to adopt tho rfWluUon. Discussion. Kubby II bad a few commtnts. I gum I'm not saUsfled WIth the way It Is and could ~ somt Improvemtnton wlIal's proposod.1 donl like lot 19 bOlng rtsldonUal, tlO(auso It IS rtghtor. the highway. And lot 22 w11lch II curronUy Gfnoral Commtrclal and WIll slay so WIth this rosoluUon, I think It should bt rtsldential, tsptclally tlO(auso eVtn though It's a commorclal ust now)t doosn'l have a parking lot or a commercial building on Il Sp thoro's the po~nUal or a modtralt Income houso to rlt In there. So I'd lovt to switch tho dtslgnaUons ror 19 and 22, but that's not What's btrort us and so to protfCt the nolghborhood, and to make It ralr for tho poople with commercial Invtstmont or Intmst In that arta or town so thoy don'lkoep coming In for zoning chang.., I think It ntods to be changod to resldontial. Nov II ~nd to agr.. with changing It to rtsldontial.l did go over and look at I~ and thoro really Is a good amount of spact and trOts bttW\~n that one houst and the actual road. But It sotmtd noisy and such In my tsUmaUon, but ItMtms the pooplellylng thor. ere conwnt wlthll Horow/l tend to agrH with thls,l noro thelnvolvomont that the ntlghborhood has gono through. I think that thoy should havt tholr concorns put to rost on this, I think that ~'ye fooltd around with this long onough.1 also am conctrntd that therols a poronUal for crHplng commtrclallsm to go right up Hudson It It wero solidly tstabUshed thero, so I will go along with this. McDI Weill hay. some problems with It as It's propowJ. And I em rully awaro or the ntlghborhoods conCtrn and I know that tho last thing that any of us that sit up her. want to do Is to Impact a neighborhood In any type or way that has tho potonUal or having a detrlmtntal orfoct on Il But In this parUcular cast, I think that tht way that the comprohtnslve plan has this property sta~, I think Is proper,lt doosn'l make any sonso to moln ono way, to havo rtsldonUal property abuWng a highway IIko highway J. And socondly, the argument that commorclal development Is going to creep up lIudson Avenue, I lust havo a lot of problems accopting thalI \ust can't Sot that happening. thtrtrort,ln this parUcular Instance, I think that tho Comprohenslve Plan should slay the way Ills. Courtnoy II agree that we lust spont sovoral hundrtd thousand dollars down thoro roconstrucUng highway lto make It botltr for tho commorclal ontorprlSts along thtre, and It just doosn't make sonso to mt olther to tako OM IItUo rrontagtlot oft of that Ulat's commorclal on tlthtr sldo with no translUonal zoning, no buUtrlng. you've got a f1yo n I 0 e '1 " I -5c page 2 lane highway on one sldo or It and commtrclal on either sldo or Ill'm IIko John, I don't set tho commorclal development crtoplng up the strtot at a1l. I wouldn't go along WIth tltallt just dotSnl mako any SfnSf to moto koop this as rtsldenUal. It ~ ~relooklng any placo OISf In tho city, wo wouldn't think of putting rtsldonUal zoning on a four lane highway With turning lants, Nov I Woll maybe no~ ~ cortalnly did that on Lo~r MuscaUnt area. Ambr I That could be anothor mistake on the part or tht malorlly, It I look back at how my volt was on that one. I know tho argument about the crtoplng commercialism down lIudson Strott Is one that I've hoard many timtS on this Issue. But probably I don't think that no matlhr What mr tho volt Is tonight that this Is golng to be put to r~t by sovoral proporty ownm.lt lust simply won't happon that way. Whon you look at tho history or lot 22, It had about 20 ytars In ract of commercial USf. It might or boon Illegal. th~ or you Who have tho momory and hm drivon by thoro many timo Will rtcall What was thore. I think that this Is going to be a vast Improvtmonl Tho property owntrs that own that buslnoss, Iowa City Landscaping, I think havo done a rtmarkablolob In drosslng up that whole frontago. Romembtr what was there, I do, They have also agrood that tho single family rtSldenco Which would be to the north or lot 22 Is going to rtmaln a rosldonce.1 think that Is a good compromlSf. That In Ilsolt Is a burrer. The other concosslon that was mado, was that tho back yard of that rtsidenco Will be usod as a backyard and not as a commercial storage aroa ror stock. So I lust think It's a logical movo. Larson/I think It's all a moss as It setms to me everyone agroos. The rosoluUon as proposod doosn't satisfy anyone. Whtther you volt yts or no on It can be subjoct to so many dlrrtrent rtasons that the Whole thing reminds mo or tho old saying that thero's two things you shouldn't watch bolng made, laws and sausago. That's What's happened bore, It.s justondtd up bolng a moss that doosn't satisry anybody. I don'tknow how 111 volt It Itcomtsdown to Whother to rezone lot 19, the lot that's right on tho highway, btcauso I think you can make an awfully good argumtnt that that should bo zontd commtrclal. What bothers me Is that It's now zontd rtsldtnUal and yet tho Comp Plan calls for It to be spocltlod or dtsCrlbod on the Comp Plan as commtrclal. SO I guoss I'm docldlng tholssuo knoWing rull well and agreolng With Bill that It's going to come back to us as a rtzonlng, that I'm not going to doclde that Issue now and I don't think that's bororo us. What's btroro us Is should tho Comp Plan dtsCribo the land the same way as the zoning Is. It's zontd rtsldontial, those lots, n I 0 e e ,\ f .~ pago J WhelJl.r they should ~ or nollf lJIat's What lJIey'r. zontd, that's What the Comp Plan ought to say. My view I' that I don't have that big or a problem changing tho comp Plan to roflect that thOStlols aro :onod rtsldential and that's What tho comp Plan ought to say. I'm not happy about tho lot across tho stroot btlng subject to varying Inlhrpretations dopendlng on Whoro you sit I'm not happy about 16 through 19 btlng treated as It thoy'ro tho same btcause they'ro not To mo, Whothor a lot rour lots In from tho highway Is zontd commercial and Whether tho lot right on tho highway Is zontd commercial, It tntirtly two dlrrmnt Issuts. And so I'm going to volt to go ahead and amond the Comp Plan to get thtSO things Into agreement with tho zoning, But I'm not sayIng that I'm not somoday going to volt to zonolot 19 or maybt 19 and 13 as commorclal, llo(ause I want to SOt that argumont Whon It comts btrore us, btcauso It may vory ~II bt tho bo~r argument J:ubby II gUtSS I don't undorstand tha~ Randy, bo(ause our zoning Is What it Is now, but our Comp Plan Is our vision or What ~ think Is approprlalt land use ror tho ruture. And so It you think that lot 19 should bo commercial, that What it should, tvtn though tho commercial usage is residential. You should want tho Comp Plan to bt gonoral commercial for that Larsonl But undorstand, that Isn't borore mt, Kubby? Right What you said was, you should chango tho Comp Plan bocause that's What It's curronUy zontd and that's not What tho Comp Plan's for, Larsonl I'm not so sure I agr.. with that characltrlzaUon, but my main probltm Is lot 16 through 19 shouldn't bo treated as a block and I think It's holprul for tho nolghborhood to chango tho Comp Plan In thIs manntr. but I just want to make surf that pooplo didn't lust assume that I think that lot 19 ought always to bo rtsldontial. Thank you. Kubby I Ono point that Darrtll mado that ~ talktd about a IIlUolast night was tha~ you said last nlgh~ Darroll tha~ from your perspoctivo, tho reason we worktd on hIghway one was tho commorclallnltres~ but somo of us think that It's ror evorybody that uses highway I and the rtsldtnUal proporly owntrS are pooplt Who ntod safety gotung Into and out or thtlr nolghborhoods to got on to tho hIghway and got to tho commorclallnlhrests and othor parts or town. So thtro aro multi. roasons Why we'ro doing Highway I. McDI Any othtr discussion. Roll call. Tho rosoluUon Is adopted, Ambrlsco, Courtnoy, McDonald voting no. n I 0 e ~I ,I , -SC page 4 Ambr/ Ambrlsco voUng yts, McD/I'm sorry_ -."..-----~ - r-- .... n I 0 e LI Agand. Rogl4or Council MOlting Oclobor I, 1991 Pog. 8 .1 I , f , i I ! I . , 100lthoreoll, TowncrOlI Addillon, .ub)ocl 10 Iho oppllconl '0CIII1ng .pecl,'.xcoPllons fOl aldo yard ond clI.allo perking, Tho .peel.1 excopt/one waro opprovad on May 9, 1990, Tho .poclol excapllon 10 provldo 011'111011 parking on 0 llporOIO 101 WOl .ub)ocllo 0 proporlv exoculod ogllamOnl with 1110 owner of 1035 Wodo SIIIOI, ThlI ogroomonl WII roconllv finollzad ond lho opp/lcanll. now lOoking opprovol of 1110 LSNRD, Tho rocommondollon of lho Pr.Mlng ond Zoning Commllalon II conllllonl with Iho 11I11 rocommand'llon conl.lnod In lho .1.11 roPOlI dOlad MaV 3, 1990. jJtlLt I;~f" I Act/on: I/,,(b % ITEM NO, 8. PUBLIC DISCUSSION, "f).. ITEM NO.7. PUBLIC HEARINO fOR THE PURPOSE OF IDENTlfYINO fUTURE CABLE. RELATED COMMUNITY NEEDS AND INTERESTS AND REVIEWlNO THE PERfORMANCE OF HERITAOE CABLEVISION, INC, Commonl: Tho Cltv Council, Ihtough ROIoIullon No. 91.241 and IhI. publlo haering, II commonclng tho ronowal procOldlngl roqulred bV Socllon 828(al of tho Coblo CommunJcot/onl POllcv ACIIO Ida nt/Iv Iho futuro coblo rolatad communltv neodl and Intaroltl ond rovlow tho porlOlmanco of Harllogo Coblovlllon, Inc, undor Iho franchllO during tho . currant fllnchlso larm, Thll procoodlng will conllnuo, Action: &tV ~lkiU - , '"'- - ... .. --- -"r- . ~ - ~. --- ~ n ICles -7 p3gt I McDI ~rort I optn tht ph. and to glvt any or you tht opportunity to txprtSS somo or your opinions. As was 5t4~ In tho commoot s.<Uon. this Is the boginnlng of tho proctss. this Is gOing to bt a long proc.ss. And throughout this proc.ss this WIll not bt your only opporlunlty or anyono olst rrom tht pUblic for that matter to txprtss opinions, concorns, or anythIng that you might W3nt to bring up during this proctsS. Tho Broadband m Comm. WIll hold tholr own Marlngs throughOut tht proctss. Tho council, again, probably'~1I ~ lust don't know tht datts ytl Wo don't know how things are going to procood. But tht council In tho ruturo will also bt holding othtr ph. on this. OUr non mooUng wt do havo schodulod on this. This Is a Oct 2lst-corro<t? Monday ovonlng and this Is sort or a InformaUonal mttting lor tho council and ror anyono 01$0 Who would IIkoto alltnd. This Is tho night that ~ art going to talk to a consulUng firm that was hlrtd. And tho commission mtmoors will bt horo and all othor Intor.sltd partitS will be htrt. But tht public Is vory much Invited to this same mooUng. It will be a public mttting hold Mro In tht chamoors. So, I lust wanted to say at this poInt that mn thouRh ~ ban this scheduled for tonight that this Is just tho boglnnlng and thtrols going to be many many opportuniUts throughout this proctss for you to oxpr.ss your vlows. Also, Whon I open tho ph" It you would IIkt to common~ Whtn you approach tho podium lust sign your namo and addrtsS and Identify yoursolt to council ploast. I now doclaro tho ph. open. Is thoro anyono Who would IIkoto addrtsS tho council on this I~m. K\rlStin Evonsonl Chair or Public Acc.ss tolevlslon and sovoral or our board mombtrs and our o~utivo dlro<tor art htrotonlght to show our support for public acctsS and our definlto Intor.st In tho rtrranchistng proc.ss. P .A.T.V. has managtd tht community programming conter and tho pUblic acctss channol Slnt 1990 Our board mombtrs hm put In a lot of hours working with tho clly's broadband ltlo<ommunlcaUons commission, other city start, many Individuals, to put togtthor guldtllnts and procedur.s. pollclts, promoUons that can makt public acc.ss a woll usod rmurco for tht city of Iowa Ctly. I think that ~ havt roached a lot or pooplo and organizations. John 11055/ our oxocutivo diro<tor, has somo spocltlc racts ror you. And, It you havt any qutstions throughOut tho procoss. we will be In touch. You can reach any or our board mtmbers. - .\ I I ; f I I I I i I i i n I 0 1:1 b .1 I -7 paK~ 2 John H~ssl Extcutivo Diroctor or Public A((tss tollovlslon I would just lito to roi~ralt somo or the commtnts that KrlsUn has alr~ady madt. I want to thank the City ror their support or public accoss loleYlclon In It's IncopUon and also In the conUnulng support that tho City shows P .A.T.V. through the matching grant program that ~ have ostabUchod With the Broadband TtlocommunlcaUons Comm. At this Umo I would also Ukoto have addlUonal board mombtrs from P A.T.V. stand so that council can Idontity thom. Thty are In the back row thoro. ~ug Lart, Karen /loman, Carl Orgrtn, and Uta Cochran. Wll would lust Uk. to oxprtssto tht council and to the City that we hope that we could gtt tho conUnuod support or tho city and tho council In franchlst rtnfgoUations. And ~ hope that tho council and tht city Is happy With tho lob ~ aro doing With pubUc acctss at this Umo. In tho last yoar, PUblic a((tss has hOlped to product om 1500 hours or locally producod programming dealing tho tho City or Iowa City. That programming has bttn as dlvtrSf as church programs, sports programs, programs doallng With Issuts In tho community, arts, childron'a programming, and lust a Wholo Wide rango or What the clUZons or Iowa City makt up In this community, Public Acctss ltlovlslon IS Vtry proud that \W have worktd With ovor 100 groups and organizations In the past yoar to holp thtm produco programs and gtt thoir mtssagt out to tho cltizons of Iowa Cily through Public Acctssltlovlslon. Wt stand bthlnd our commitments to groups and organizations to help them got tholr mtssagts out and ~ hope that the c1Uzons or Iowa City approclalt that. I am available to you all" you han any qutsUons rfgardlng pUblic acctssltltvlslon or any qutsUons rfgardlng anything rfgardlng our programming or anything lIke that. I hopo that you call me " you hm any qutsUons or comments or conctrns or compllmonts. I think you vtry much. Mel Smlth/1426 Rochtsltr Ave. I don't havo any comments about PUblic acctss but I do havo somt comments In rfgard to What I think aro somo or tht probltms. I notictd In tho paper tonight that It was roporOOd that you council momoors In tht city had only rocelvod 256 complaints In rtgard to cablt ltlovlslon. I don't know Whother that Is an abnormally smail or largo number as to how many complaints you normally get. I know that I havo made complaints down to tho Horltago orrtCt Which prObably didn't get Included In that 256. Ont or tht complaInts that I havols Ulat I am tolJuy oppostd to tho tllmlnaUon or WHBP and WOC and We,:. Tho argumont that thost art n I 0 e '-I ,\ I -7 pag~ ~ both CBS and Nac artlUatts which are tht samo as KGAN and KWWL. On tho surface that sound good. But anybody that IIs~ns to thom, you know that tht programming Is ontirely dUftrenl Not absoluloly In Its entirety, I shouldn't say thal Bu~ ror InstJnco, WIIBF many timts carried sporUng ovenls rrom Chicago Which ~ro not on any or tho other artlUatts, Thoy ~ro not avallablo. Another rtason that I dlsagrw with It Is btCau~ It appears that any of tho stations art In the basic pat~rn dropped out does Whal It leavos an opening ror the spot that you pay txtra for. I don't know how our cable costs compare to other ciUos. But I do know that ~ have subs<ribOO to cable for some years. I think pracUcally since Ils Incoption In hm. I know that our monthly bill has moro than doubltd. That sooms to mo, I don't know lust e)3cUy how long that Is. But to havt moro than a 100~ Incrta~ In ~n Ytars 5*ms to mo protty tough whon you are talking htre that mn tho unionized placts havt boon gtWng 4 and 5~ Incrmts and In ltns yms that only makes 40'50~. That doesn't make 100:C. And I venturoto say that probably the ratts that Htrltage Cable Toltvlslon pay are probably not up In some or thost stratospheric aroas. One or tho things too, since this change, and I havtn't notictd It on our lv, but othtr pooplo have montionod to mo tha~ tsptclally tho sports channel, does not como In clm and Is vory cloudy at Umts and rocoption Is vory poor. It It was that way all tho time I would think that It was the persons ~Iovlslon ~t. But When It comts and gats why It probably Is tho transmission rather than the rocoption. I guoss I would hm to say that basically, I am fairly well satisrlos With cable Lv. I know that I said It one time I was ntvOr going to tab it and that Is not truo, btCau~ I have. And ~ have onjoyed Il I think that tht.1 don' think that the local poople havo anything to do with It but what Is carried on Encoro and HBO Is tine. SOmo of thom aro protty good but thtre are so many ropetitions that It you watched It ror 6,0 months or a yoar I Vtnturoto say that you would be watching the same movlo 19 timos. And my mtmory Is kind of short but I don't nttd It reptatOO quilt that ofltn. Rob LtWls/1 IIvo at 508 KIrkwood AVt. I am not on the board of PAT.V. or anything Ukothal I have boon through tho producors workshops and whtn my work schtdulo allows, IlIkoto got down thoro and try to mako somo t.v. About thrw yoars ago when I movtd to Iowa City I uso to como hero on alltrnath Tuts nights and sit In UIO chambtrs and just IIsltn to tht procttdlngs and soo the city council at work. But you - - - -- - n I 0 e /EI -7 paRH SOmtUmM run kind or lalt ror a person that gtts up In tho morning. I got cable and I don't know It our hou~hold Is rtpr~n14tive of peoplo In tho city or not but wo watch the city council m90tings and 'NO watch someUm9S the roptals lator In the W09k. Wo watch the "hool board mtttings. Wo also, or courso, watch P A.T.V. Wo IIko tho homemade ttlovlslon a lot I r"lUke aU or tho accoss stations aro very Important to tho community and bUilding community. And I am trying to encourage pooplo all tho time. I say you rtally should get cable so you can watch tho city council In acUon, You can SOt tho school board in acUon. So you can watch ttlevislon that your neighbors mako. I know that wo aro oarly In tho proctss, so I WIlnttd to start oarly In tho procoss lJlklng about this. What poople art S.lylng back to me Is do you know It Is around S50 to gtt that hooked up now. For that a lot or poopl. that Is not an uncomrortablo amount or montY but ror somo othor pooplo that Is a nice ploco or chango. It is a dltrlcult thing. I ~uld Uko to suggtst that many the acetss channols could ~ mado avallablo on a dlrtoront sealo than just tho basic cablo. May~ somtOnt doosn't want to gotCNN or tht sports channol or Whaltvor. But It Is Important for us to havt this tool; among ourstlvts for building communlly, A WIly for communicating dlrocUy. You communicating dlrocUy Into our homts and gotting informaUon that Is not modla~ by tho local nowspaper or Whattvor. Whoro thtlr roporUng Is stCond hand of What goos on. I thought that I ~uld como down tonight tho first night and mako a stattment horo at tho boglnnlng for stOlng this kind or thing. Wo aro talking about a monopoly and It stoma to mo that a monoply.thtre are roasons for granUng It I rocognlze this. But Whon you grant a monopoly thoro art also cortaln rtsponslblUtios that SOtm to mo go With It and I am not saying thatltts mako cablo accoss frooto tvtryono for th~ parUcular channols. But maybt a dltrortnt strucluro so that thty aro avallablo to pooplt Who otherwise might not think that It Is Within their budgotto ~ ablo to watch tho council In acUon. I am probably going to go homo right afltr thIs and turn on tho t,v. and watch tht rtst of the motUng from my own living room. Thanks very much. DIana Paullnal Thoro was a song thatlloarntd Whtn I was at camp a row yoars ago about a hat having throo cornors and I think that Is tht ont I am wearing tonight In tho oarly ~O's I btcamo a community producor bocauso tho availability, at that Ume, of U10 programming ctnttr. And I gUtsS I thought It was kind or lalt ror me for starting a -----~ -- y-- .... - - ,I , n I 0 e q .' I -7 pago 5 turn In my caroor slncol had alroady btcomo an oducator and had tMn teaching for ~II over twtnty yms. But It happtnt<t, I was someWhat chtgrln to loarn thal thtrt was no vldoo educaUon avallablo to studonts. lI<<auSt or that and tho cooptraUon that I round with tho community producers I OOgan sort or a mlnl.proloct Wlthstudonls or Iowa Cily SChools. Amts sludenls rrom high school roach unlvorsiUos WIth 2.3 yoars or producUon exptrlonco btforo thty hit tho campus, Which glvos thom a IltUo bit or an tdgo btforo tho Iowa City studonls. Tho socond sltp that I guess I moved Into was a coordlnaUon with Channol191n that thelnformaUon 60rvlctS btgan running on behalf or tho school district Information avallabloto paronts and pooplo In tho communlly. Information such as tho school board m~Ungs that you so kindly roftrred to that W'& aro ablolo gtt In our homts now tho agondas or thoso mooUngs bororo hand so U,at tho community can atltnd thost at loast per television. SChool menus aro now avallablo for parents Who want to know What tho children art having at school. I think I am horotonlghlto loud tho collaboraUon that I havt Sltn In tho last thr~ years. Tho collaboraUon thal has made affordablo to Iowa City studonts through PA.T.V., through Channol 29 and through Channol 271n parUcular. Tho library has also btOn htlprul. I gum my hat has lust gone rourth cornor. Wo havo usod thtlr facllltits as \lMllln tht InstrucUon of our students. I think that the city can afford as much collaboraUon as It can gtt And local programing has bo>on a large draw In that I also would like to volun~r CHANGETAPETOREEL91.72 SIDE I I am sure that I will bt SIting all or you. As Mayor McD said, this will bo a long proctsS. Wo are all fastening our Stat bolts and gotting roady for the rldo. I want to thank you again ror supporUng oducaUonaltv.ln Iowa City. SteVen Croo/719 N. Johnson. I rise at tho beginning or this ronfgoUaUng. tho contract rtntgoUation procoss, to urgo tho council to ntgoUalt a vory strong posiUon for public moss ltlovlslon. As one or thost things that makos Iowa City not only a good placoto sby alivo as W'& saw oxhlbltoo this ovonlng the honoring or tho ortlcors but a good placoto Iivo. Wo movtd Into tho Iowa City community In tho 70's and ror family reasons, much to our sorrow, \1M had to movo away and wo spent a docado wanting and walUng to como back to Iowa City, And It n I 0 :1 0 ,I i -7 pagt 6 was wrvJctS such as public accoss wlovtslon and library raclllUts and othor things or this nalure Which make Iowa City an excellent pl~C.to IIvo. Which loft us longing all Illoso yom ror our roturn and looking rorward to our roturn to Iowa City. Ono 01 tho most o~ting Ungs that happens htre that I havo boon Involved In a numbtr or yms now and othtr PfOplolald tho ground ~rk In the boglnnlng, I wasn't In on thaL Is this pUblic acctsS. WhiCh, I wtsh I could say thoro Is pUbUc accoss but you know I can't I could say go homo and turn It on and watch It this o,mk and then you are going to know What public accfSS . Is. No, no, no. Public accoss Is on tho groWing tdgo or tho Inwlloctual light roally of tho nation. And public acctsS Is on tht groWing odg. or tho Inwlloctual lito of Iowa City Which Is considered a place Whtrt Intelloclualllrols ImportJnt hero and thoro aro many a,poets or thaL This Is one or Illo key things. And Illow roason you can't go home, many or us, and ~ What It Is going to be IIkols bveauSt It Is groWing. It Is changing. And we art exploring What can ~ do wtth this medium. And Wi havo round some vory succtssful methods and somo vory successful things that thty art doing. Many 01 us still has lots or dreams 10rL I don't know What It Will bo. That Is tho elO:lUng part Lots koop Illls txclUng opUon open ror conUnutd growth In the yms ahtad. Now It that Is to happen you folks aro going to have to got In thero and StO, I happen to btlleve that Bill Blough and somo or tho PfOple that are Mre In Htrltage ~uld lust likoto ~ us nfgotiato a really good place ror public access ltltvlslon In the contract that Is rone~, It I can bo or htlp In any way I certainly Will. Thank you. Tom Curtisl University lIelghts. We have cable Lv. over In UnlvtrSlty Heights. Ono or the Illlngs that I am concernod about that I ~uld like to mtnUon to council Is tho marktUng technics that lIerllago Company UStS. Tht lattst bolng the unsoUcltod Encore that they provldtd and the proctsS thoy used. I lust wan~ to mtntion that I don't know It there Is any way to address that In a contractual mtans. I am vory concerned about thost typo or markeUng ~hnles. And I approclalt tht opportunity. I called tht City and Mr. Bill Schotrrer said thoro ~uld bt an opportunity to 6peak to tho council and he did rollow through and I think him ror tht notitlcaUon on this. . Dowty McGU~ II hm boon Involved With pubUc access Lv. orr and on since It 6tar~ In Iowa City. For tho first II Ytars I managed tho library's public channel until I changtd lobs this AugusL I didn't n I 0 ':1 .1 ,\ I -7 pago 7 think that I ~uld tvor havoto do this again. But htre I am It ~ms to mo that ~ dtSfrvo all tho local slurr on cablo tv. that ~ can g~l Wo've got IIvo places on tho dial wMre ~ can uo things not madoln Los Angolts or Now York or AUanta, but horoln loWll City. Tho spaCts on the c.'Ible dial aro prime rtal tstato. I think that It Is groat that ~ are on thoro. I ~uld urgo support or hanging on to all or thOSi local channels, Uke commorcial tolovtslon, acctsS can 00 preUy good or preUy bad. Unlike commtrclalltlevlslon, Whon It Is preUy bad ~ In the audience c.'In do somothlng about It by making a show and pulting It on oursolves. Tho library channolln parUcular has boon vtry valuablo. I am not part of It anymore. But While I was wt ~ro able to put on library evonts, story hours and OVtnts from tho m"ting rooms and put them Into poople's living rooms WIlon tt.ey couldn't altond. Early on we had a documtnt scannor camora so ~ could fYtn ans~r lnrormaUon qUtstions. One timo ~ turnod a Uve camtra on a diagram or how to rtplace a carburator to anS\'Nr one ~rson's Information quostion. Lot's &(It the not~rks do thal During rerranchlslng I ~uld IIkoto stO us hang on to tht local channtls. Just one last foolnolo. In all of our doallngs With Horitago Cablevlslon, thoy have bttn highly supporUvo. So a quick plug for how Heritage handles the accoss channels. Lori Boars/l first ~uld like to say that you forgot In your proclamation that this Is Employ the Handicap Month. And It Is also national Downs Syndrome Month. That Is only t~ things. First or alii hm gone through the spt(lal noods training and Mr. Larson, Randy Larson, has bttn on our show, I haven't bttn thtreto run tho camera but I hm holptd Marjorie Hayden Strait Who tncouragod moto do tho training. For fow yoars I was rt~lIy htsitanl I thought ~II can I run a camtra, And then I ~nt down thtrel thought ~II okay I can run a camora. And I just encourago anybody In tht city and you council mombers, I have watchtd you on lv, I talktd to Kartn KUbby a lol She was In my article last March. I have had lIerltage ooforolt was Hawktye and I rtally tncourage that more spt(lal nttds training for P.A,T.V. It anybod)' has any quostions ror me I am open. :ferry L.t~rs~1/ IlIvo at Bon Alre. Ont of tht reasons I think I came tonight Randy, I watchod him a couple ~ks ago. lie was talking about tht hundrods of pooplo that aro going to bt hero and ho didn't know how thty all ~rt going to speak and so rar mrybody has bttn s~aklng n 1f]:le ,\ I -7 pag~ 6 ror this public accoss. But I am somo What of a radical and I don't know It Mol rtmtmoors mo rrom tho days or th~ negotiaUons I am a satollllt man. TM only thing I want to say Is I hopo that you ordtnanco or franc hi" dOOi not oxcludo mo. I road vldoo magazln9S and talk about tholarost things that aro coming In. I can lako It and slam It up against tho wall and got roctption. I can thtn mako my cholco and I lust do not want to bt shut out for tho rlrst thr" yoars or som~ now tloctronlcs and then laltr on pooplo say yts I can havell I lived out In tho country ror quloo some time. I hod a saOOllllt dish thtr~. When things got scrambltd, pooplo ~ron't goIng to ~II mo a scramblor. Thoy said no, no you can't You hm a cablo running In rront or your property so you can't hav~ this. Thtn arttr a Whilo Whon things sotUtd down I could buy anything I wantOO. I just don't want to go through this again. Tho othor thIng that I would lIke to say Is that I think It Is Umo that ~ forgtt about this ~xtra chargo for tho lv. In my chlldrtn's room or my room or Whaltv~r. It wet aro going to rtnogotiaoo a contracl Mol has boon In automoUvo. Each yoar ~ havo to glvt back somo monoy to the bIg manufacturors or cars. Wt aro oXptCtOO to reduco our prlcts. Not to constanUy ralso thom. I think Ills timo that probably ovtry homo has an addlUonallv. I sot one thoro and thoro. I sot one out In tho hall. I don't know Who Is paying for thtm. Iowa illinois E10ctric doosn't say ~ put oltctrlclty to your homo you can only use It In tho kllchon. It Is Umoto got this silly thing out of thore and say this Is a private homo, run the lv.s tho way you want to. Thank you. Bob WOlihl I live at2526 Maytlold. I como to you to ralso two points today. Lot mo tlrstor all romlnd you that I had tho privllego or btlng tho chair of the first cablolv. commlltoo back In 1972 .1973. I would point out to you that you as a council have an opportunily to mako up and redo a mlstako that tho council mado back then. Lot mo read you a Stction of the roportof May 23, 1973 from tho cable lv. commlltoo that was composed of ciUztns. Tho commlltoo votOO six In favor or public munIcipal owntrshlp and two In ravor or prlvaoo commtrclal ownmhlp. It was notOO In tho mlnults that commlltoo mombtrs oxprossod their prorortnco concornlng tho bost form or public ownorshlp. Tho most favorablo consideration In a general way wort a) tho establlshmont or a pUblic authority and b) contracting With or loaslng tho sysltm to a prlvalt managomont corporation. What ~ basically said back In 1973 was that prlvalt ontorprlse Is groal And n I 0 :1 ~I 1\ -7 pago 9 mryono or tho mombfrs or Ulat commlttoo, ~vtral of Whom art dt~d now, lavorfd prlvatb ontbrprlSt. I rt<ognl%o that In thiS caSt you art doallng with a monopoly. And that you don't havo compoUtivo basic structuro or privett onttrprlSO at that point Thllls a monopoly. It basically provldos porsons WIth tho opportunily. As we said back then, and as tho IIteraturo said, It glVM somtbody tht right to produco somo monoy and good mOntY. Tho rocont arUcloln tho ntwspaJl'lr tho other night talktIJ In terms or tht amount or monoy that ~uld 00 mad.. Now maybe you In your wisdom did not ror~ Whm that montY could bt u~ In terms or municipal sorvlcts to bt a btnoUtto ptoplo. Back In 1973lhtrt was ttchnology In ltrms or sorvlcos that a communily could provldolls rtsldencos. SUch as burglar alarms. SUch as roadlng utility moters. 1I0no 01 thOSt things hm como about They would havt como about It tho council would havellstentd to It's commission and commlt~. Alii am asking you to do Is olthor to lalk to some or thOSt porsons Who aro allvo Who aro on that commlltH. And to oxploro that possibility. Tho 6OCond thing, lot mo suggtst that you rttxamlno tho 12 basic rmons for voting for lIaw\:oye Cabltvlslon. I would morely submit to you that all of lhoso 12 roasons havt notcomt about In a roallty. I think that you nttd to look at thoso. Thoro art a lot or IIlUo grlpos that I havo and that othtr pooplo havt. I gum tho basic two rmon that I am hOrotonlghtls I) to remind you that you havt tho opportunity at that this stagoln history I think to makt a now doclslon. I personally think that tho decision that was mado by tho council back In '73 was wrong. I think that I could provo that to most pooploln rorms or It nothing olso on dollars and tconomlcs. 2) to mtrely point out to you that I think tho City or Iowa City has beon laxed. I do not blame Haw\:oyo C.ablovlslon or Heritage. Thty aro going to operate tho buslnoss In tho m~t oconomlcal way and profit way that thoy can. That Is alWllYs not In tho bost public Inltrost. Tho council or Iowa City has not kept thtlr noso to tho grind and said boy you didn't do thtse things. I roallzo that most or you wero not on tho council back at that moment. But you art on tho council now, okay. And I know that thort Is a public olecUon coming up. Somo of you aro running ror tlocUon. Ono gtls an oasy trick. 111 be your campaign managor. Sorlously though. I think that this Is a vory criUcallssuo. It Is one that ~uld solvo a lot of probloms It you will look at It croativoly. I urgo you to consldor again tho recommtndaUon for municipal ownership of tho cablo system. And I ~uld suroly be vory happy at any Umoto talk to you - - - T-- - n I CI :I~ LI ,\ , I I I ! I ! i i , , , I I I -7 p.lg~ 10 Individually and COlloctiYtly and glvo you the ~alth of maltrlal and to show you Why I think that Is. Anothtr Vtry IntmsUng thing, Back In 1973 Whon thoy projoctod tho oconomlc foaslblllty of cablo, AdvorUslng was novor consldorod to bo a sourco or Incomo. 8ocauso back In '7 31t was prolocWd that thoro would 00 no commorclals. Back In 197J, I havon't road all or thtst mlnuWd yet. But I can rtmomb&r toiling our consultants that Il 5*mod to mo that Ulat WO~ld b& a vory lucrativt rorm. Penotration In 10W3 City Is groat. Back In 1972, In support of thost Who talk about public accoss. In 1972 thoro waS8 publlcaUon calltd Tho Cablo Fable Which lalktd about public access stations and tho fodoral rogulations al that Umo, And It said bulln somo communltits thal aro culturally rich, rail mort chanMls aro noodod. You can Imaglno my ploasure that ono or tho two clUos monUonod W3S Iowa Clly, 10W3, this Is a rich community. Inltlloctually and cUllurally. I, again, submit to you that It Is In tho bost Inltrost of this community In ltrms or a communlcaUon tducaUon notwork for this systom to bt owntd by tho City of Iowa City, Thank you vory much. Bill T~rry I 357511anks Drive, It Is kind of amusing how I got down horo, OUr lovoly Pross CIUZon, Shawn lIubooll, I don't really earoto know any moro about tho man btcauso as far as I am concerntd ho was totally Irrtsponstblo, Inractual ,Inconcluslvo, It Is roporting lIke that that gtts this council and this c1ly In troublo, 110 sat for an hor and talktd With Drow Schaorror to try and rind oul What this rontwal situation was, And he also lalktd With Dalo HtlUng, Ht montions two things In thero of Which Dalo and Drow told him about. Ho also mat.ts It sound IIko S75,000 Is coming out or tho city colttours, It Is not. It is coming our of tho rranchlso foo. And that 15.1 am lust sick and tirod of tho PrtSs Cltiztn and Il's IrrtSponsiblo rtporting. So, thon I got to Ullnklng arlor having sorvod on tho Broadband Tole<ommunlcaUons Commission ror a number or yms and tnloylng ovory bit or It and tspoclally working With Drew, That I noodtd to maybt ouUlne somo things that I though we nood to addrtSs as we como upon tho rranchlso ronowal. Ono or thom Is stalt of tho art. I think WI nood to utillzoln our community tho state or tho art In tho cablolndustry. Whonovor that rontwal takos arroct that Is UIO stalo of tho art that we out to bt employing. Wo oughlto havo mtter rtadlng, ole<trlc and gas aro/ust a couplo or thom, Walor ror Ult Clly, Ilolltr uso or 911 tnhance It posslblt. Banking buslnoss via cablo. Two way Interacting. n I 0 :I'S ,I I -7 page II More lucraUvf rranchls>> roo. And ore oxtfnslve commitment to public ac<m. I think that probably one of the ways that we can do this and I have OOon told that It Will nmr happon. I would like to '" It happen. That Is lor tht council to appoint somebody rorm U10 Iowa City, tho county, and Coralvllloto work 011 a task rorco With Broadband TtlocommunlcaUons Commission. Anothor thing that this roporttr had said In Mrf. lie roally made It sound Ilko Iowa City was a bad place as far as cablol v. I am Mrf to ttll you that not much more than six complaints a month. 223. And all you hm to do Is road some of the tradolournals to hoar some horror .torlts. Woaro vory vory fortunato In I.hls town.. I am not a company man but ~ havo got a good company horo. And Bill Blvugh has OOon oxtromoly cooperaUve With U1ls communlly. 110 has glvtn us moro than What wo hm asktd and gono out on U10 11mb ror this communlly. I havo some probloms right now WlUI Tel and one of thom.tho maIn onols how Tel got control or Horltago Without your approval. Iltcauso undor our ordlnancoltls mandatory that thoy got your approval and yet thiy now havolt and thty aro tholargtst n U1olndustry. Thank you vory much. Ambr I Bill, may I ask you a qUtsUon. You made a lot or good poInts and tho p.h.ls not only for the council but for all or us to loam and It has bton vory tdlfylng for mo this tvenlng to hoar rorm you good poople. What did you moan by trying to obtain a morolucrativo franchlso. 1I0w. Ttrry II U1lnk U1at now Is tho timo that When you sit down and nfgotialt you can ralso It I~, a. Ambrl You know Who pays Il Torry I Suro. AmbO Tho usor. Torryl That Is true. You can also, I think, you havo tho opportunity. Don't got moln to too doop of walor, Bill. Butl think you havo somo play hOroto work With a posslblo IlmltaUon as rar as tho basic ratts. And one of thost would bo I U1lnk that you could put Into the franchlso no Utrlng. Boy, thtrols noUllng that I would halo worso Is to SOt tht syslom Uerod oocauso that Is the bost way cablt companlts can Increaso tho ratts. Tho basic would bo just your OVtr tho air sorvlcts. Your channols that you usoto gtt on you anlonna In your houso. And It might bo a fow othtrs In thero Ilko one or tho othtr national ntWS ehannols or the woather channel. Thtn thty havo that for a lower ralt than what thty now, what tho basic ralt Is, ~---~---- -- n I 0 :1 b ,\ I -7 paiO 12 1I0rowlls that What tho dlrtoroncols oot~n b.1slc cablt and oxpandtd b.1slc. Nov / That Is tho curront Uerlng system. Horow/ln other words that Is ~Innlng or tho Uering sysltm, Even though b.1slc uso to Includt somo or tho oxpandtd, It Is now split ouL Thoro Is two dlttoront kinds. rorry /RlghL You hm It right now a cortaln dfgrto or Uorlng With tho pay sorvlc&S. That thty would bt tht hlgh&St or your Uors. Horow/l hm wondorod about that mystlr bocaust I am wondorlng Whothor that would Increaso. Whtthtr tho txpandtd would conUnuo to Incroaso In cost &YOn though it uso to bt part of the b.1slc. Thort Is a possibility or that wouldn't thoro 00, Ttrry / Vory dtflnlltly. And I would, lor What it Is worth, I would lovo to sorvo on a community task rorco It you did stt one up. I tnJoyed working With Drowand I would Ukoto work With him again. McD/ Anyono 01$0 Who would IIkoto addross tho council on this Iltm. Davo Funk/I sworo that I was going to ktop my mouth shut tonight but I Just can'L Ir I didn't say somothlng my Wlfo would 00 all OYtr mo anyway, Uvo In Iowa City, III Randy. I don't know just how many channtls thoro Is on ltlovlslon but I usually run tho onUro channols that Is avallablo and ond up back to channol 4just to walch tho nows. I don't know It It would bt posslblo or not I am lust right on tho vtrgo of going back to myoid anltnna bocauso I am so sick or all or th~ othtr things. I am paying ror this to just Ust as a numoor 30 channols that I nom watch and that I am novor going to walch or Inltnd to watch. Maybo Its btcauso of my ago but I am not really InltrtstOO In sotlng somoono go to bod With somoono olst's Wlfo or somtthlng IIko thaL Or thtso shabby looking kids With long hair and torn pants and using all of thtso four lotltrtd words, you know. And lumping up and down. Thty look Uko thty aro tramping on a bunch of ants or somoUllng, What I would roally IIko to d and this was ono thing as rar as I am concorntd was a solUng polnL I approachtd a couplt or pooplo that Is In this saltllllt buslnoss. Ono thIng that I kind of Uko about their proposlUon was that I can pick tho channols that I want and pay for only thoso that aro ustd. In othtr words It I havo got thirty two channols out Mrt and I am paying ror all 32 channols and I hm no InltnUons or using maybt only 4,5 or thtm at tho vory most, I don't sot Why I should bt paying ror anothtr 25 channtls that I n I 0 :1 '-1 I' -7 pago 13 . have no InltnUons What so tvfr or tvtr using, It Is just a wasto. Tho this gtnUtman hor. 5Pfaklng. May~ you hay. th. oPfn UtJd htroto ralso another 1.2~. My God, I am going to pay moroand this Is gOing to push mo alltUe c1osor or going back down and ~Ing lIagon down there and having my ltlovlston anltnna or buying a dish. I am gtlting rod up With It I would Ilk. to lust pay for What I am going to W3tch and What I onjoy watching Instead of all or this othor slurr that Is shoved won my throat so to speak that I am ROvtr going to W3tch. Thank you, gonUeman and lad Its. McD/ Anyon. olso Who would like to addrtSS the council on this Iltm. We apprtclalt your coming tonight As I statod In tho begInning, this Is lust tho beginning, Thoro Is going to bt a long proctSS and ~ Will Mod and apprtclalt your Input throughout the proc~s and wt Will teop you Informtd. W. Will makolt PUblic at our meotings Whon dlrrtront things art going on. As I stated tho ntxt scheduled meeUng Is Oct 21s~ Monday night at 6:00 p,m. I don't know It I said tho Ume, Ills at 6;00 pm., horoln tho council chambers and that Is the night that ~ are going to bt meoUng with the consulUng firm. Again, It Is an opon mttting and a public meoUng and anyono can at!tnd. Horow/l would lito to ask If It Is posslblo for many or tholotltrs that wt hm rtcolvtd about this subjoctto be onltrtd Into tho public rocord this evening. It might bt a IItUo bit dltrtcult but tiloro aro a number of lot!trs that havo boon vtry spoclHc about olthor posltivo or nogaUve aspocts of It Thoso lotltr ~Iltrs havo asked moto ~ It ~ can't menUontd thom somtplaco, Is Is posslbloto gtt thoso In tho public rocord. Karr lit tho Clork has copl". Y.arr/It you would furnish mo coplts.1 would bt happy to do that 1I0row II don't hm thom but I cortalnly Will got thtm. Karr I Tlltn I can list thom ror tho rocord. Horow/l Will got thtm to you. Larson/In our proc~s for tho mooting on tho 21st, Is that for tho public to como and make commtnts also. McD/llo. Actually that Is an opportunity for tho consulting firm to make their prtstntaUon to ltll us What aro somo of tho things that they want to accomplish and hope to accomplish during this process. Larson/ Will that meoting 00 broadcas~ Channol 30 or 29. MeDII doubt It. Is that schodUled, Dalo. n I 0 :1 EI 'I I -7 pait 11 Iltlllngl Wo wan~ to talk WIth tht consultant about thal/lt ~n't bt IlVt ~IKast but It could bo tapod. Larsonl My last qutsUon was Is It too lalt to ask that th. consultant be propartd to r.spond to com. or thOst things, .specially th.ld.a or municipal own.rshlp and the things that Mr. Torry monUonod. 1I.lIlngl TIIo things that ~ro brought up tonight ~ro things that normally In tho proctsS aro brought up and tht consultant doos rospond to. I didn't roally htar anything that th.y don't probably anUclpalt. MeDII now declaro tho ph, clOSfd. I I j I , , I I I I I ! , n I Ct =t q ,I i Agondl RogulOl Council Mooting OClober I, 1991 Pogo 7 ITEM NO.8. PUBLIC HEARING ON PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS. FORM OF CONTRACT AND ESTIMATE OF COST FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS REMODELlNO PIl0JECT. Commonl: Tho Council Chomber Is bolng remodolod 10 plovIdl for hondlcoppod occllalbililV, Romps will be plovldld 10 \helwo 'evol. 01 tho lIagl. WhlOlcholr .octlone will be plovIdod In lho public lilting oroo, L1ltenlng .IOllonl will be plovldad fOllhllllOllng Impolred, Now dropos, wood fInIsho. ond corpollng will bo In'lollod 10 ImplovI v1luol qualllV when ClbloCIIllng Council Chamber mlallngl. Tho olllmolod COil of thl. prolocll. t34,OOO, ACllon: ~'j l&A) ITEM NO.9. --9" Q~I CONSIDER RESOLUTION APPROVING PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS, FORM OF CONTRACT AND ESTIMATE OF COST FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OFTHE COUNCIL CHAMBERS REMODELING PROJECT, ESTABLlSHINO AMOUNT OF BIOS SECURITY TO ACCOMPANY EACH BID, DIRECTINO CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH ^DVERTISEMENT FOR BIOS AND FIXING TIME AND PLACE FOR RECEIPT OF BIDS AT 10:30 A,M, ON OCTOBER 22,1991. Commonl: SOl cornmanl IbovI, ACllon: .rJ>>.6lhtJ I AlII'" I % ITEM NO. 10. ~~ PUBLIC INPUT ON DOWNTOWN PAR KINO ISSUES. Commont: AI 0 lubsoquont moo ling Iho CIIV Council will be dllculllng downlown plrklng Iuuolln conlunctlon with Implomanllllon of Iho CD. B zono .outh of Burlington Stroot. Thllllom provldoltha OPPOllunllV for Iho Chombor 01 Commorco, Iho Downtown A'IOClotlon, and momboro of tho public 10 provldo Inpul. ACllon: .f,fI) ~t1) .1 n. lOLl 0 - 3 pago I MeDII now doclare tho publlc h~arlng o~n, Is thore anyone Who 'M)uld Ilke to addr~s the council on this j~m. Larsonl Jim, I had a quostion. Thoy didn't call you and ooll you to got down htro, did they. I ntod to hm sop.1rotod out for me tho cosmtUc changos ror cable broadcast and tho handicap acc~lblllly Issuts. Is thoro anyway of knoWing In oorms of the cost Jim Schoonrold~r I That Is ralrly dlltlcult btcauso somt or thtm ov~rlap. For o~mplo, Whon ~ put the handicap ramp In, ~ WIll bo dOing wood'M)rk thtre Which 'I/O 'M)uld elthor hm to stain to match this or do It In a color that Is more conducive to cable broadcasting. Larson/Or not caro lilt matched. Schoonfoldor I That Is truo,too. Larsonl What about the things that aro strlcUy cosmoUc. The rortnlshlng or this par~ tho n&w carpet and tho ntW drapos. Schoonroldor I That was.1 didn't do that btcauso I had a contractor In horo to try to got an tsUmaw What tho cost or doing tho rerlnlshlng Is and thty couldn't ltll me unUI thty actually star~ sanding Into this maoorlalto S&O II they can retlnlsh It Part of It Is a vtntOr and part or It Is solid. It tho venttr, Is thty start losing tho grain, then we Will havo to put a wood lamlnaw over It or go to a plasUc lamlnalt. Thty didn't want to glvo mo an osUmalo at that Umo. SO Whon I put tho prlco logtthtr, I uso a per square root cost Larsonl But It Is all part of that bid as a packago. Schoonfoldor / Yts. Kubby lit 'M)uld bo hard to soparalo It ou~ Is that What you are saying. Schoonroldtr / Yos. Larson/l think you can ltll motho gtntral tsUmalt ror tho carpet and dropos, can't you. Schoonrtldor / Tho drapos, did 'I/O gtt an osUmaro rrom. Karr / We currenUy are awalUng osUmatts. Wo havt a couplo tsUmaros out and, again, 'I/O aro walUng tor council approval to procood With the projtct. What ~ havols lust ball park rlgurts. Kubby/ What Is tho ball park or don't you want to say. Karr II am ItOry to say btcauso I havo ont quolt In and I hm two mort coming and I rtally halo to say. That would arrtct tho othtr two quotts. McDI You don't want to say It ovor tho air do you. Nov / Can you ltll mo What you moan by rorlnlshlng. Is it a matltr or a dltreront color. Schoonroldor / Yos. To mako UIO wood'M)rk a lot IIghltr In color and tho carpeUng also. Since we have to put now carpeUng and havo to do It ....- -~ --'1"-- - .1 I n LOLl ' I ,\ i .6 pago 2 from thatdtsk bact. lust as ~1I, slnco ~ hm Ult ~plt Mro doing I~ we might as well rt-carpet the Whole thing. J.arsonl Bob, are you availabloto sltp forward and toll us Why ~ ntod to do thest things With cabl& casts, Undtrstand my concorn Is not With the handicap acctsslblllty. It Is With tholdta that we spend montY on cosmoUcs In Umts or Ught budgets. I lust W3nt to havo tho public hoar Why ~ aro buying n&w drapts and now carpet and rtflnlshlng tho wood and so on. Bob Hardy I Basically thortls two roasons. Ono Is to lighten the room btcaUSt It Is so dark In Mro. Ughts bother people and so we art trying to rtduct tho amount or USt of lights to bring tho onUre room up. Tho othor Is tho color Which shUts tho tnUro color of tho cast That 19 the roason Why pooploloot a IIWo rod. Thoro Is a color shUt In tho onUro way It looks. It ~ aro going to mako a Chango. Tho suggosUons weroto accommodate tho cablt at tho samo Umo that ~ ~ro making tho changos. Larsonl And you hope that this Will makt tho producUons or the cablo casts a IIWo mort UStr rrltndly to ~plo and IncrtaSt vlt~rShlp a UWo bit Hardy I RIght Larsonl And you aro a Bob Hardy producUon coordinator. Kubby II W3S roally hoping that ~ could Stparato things out so we could roally Stt What costs art gOing for Which Iltms btcaUSt I know Whon ~ talktd about tho addlUonal civic conltr modtrlcaUons that I was asking about making room for at least ono tntranct. But moro ImportanUy. both entrancts to be acctsSlblt. So I am glad that ~ aro doing this. SO I don't want to volt against It but I hm a hard Umo spondlng SJ4,OOO on It But It Is roal hard U we can't Stparalt It out to know What costs aro going. Schoonftldor I A lot or that cost Is also Involvtd In somt of tho mochanlcal stutt that has to be dono btcaUSt we havo to movuadlaUon and a hoaltr up thoro and chango air ducts that aro undor tho floor to accommodalt tho ramping. Kubby I Would you say that a groaltr percontagols done for things that ntod to be dODO VB. tho cosmoUcs. Schoonroldor I Yos. Y.ubby I Can you say What perctntago. Schoonroldor 156~. Nov/ls It also going to Improvo betltr sound quaUly. n I CI LI e II -6 pago 3 Schoonrelder I Thtro Will bt some addlUonal mlcrophonos and so rorth. But this Isn't In this parUcular prolocl Kubby I So being able to speak from tho audlonco without coming up Will not bo donoln tho projocl Kur lit Will not be dont as part or this bid. Larson/ln all falrn", I don't want to Imt anyone WIth tho wrong conclusions. Tho drapts art What.moro than t~nty Ytars old. Karr I Clostr to thIrty, Larsonl About thIrty ytars old and tho carpet Is Vtry worn. I lust wan~ to get somt of this stuft on thelocord, I am not agalnstll I lust think that Whonmr wo do a cosmoUc typo thing ror city radUtiltS that It ought to bo lusUtlod to pooplo and I havo no problom at all voUng for this. I lust wanlOO to Itt pooplo know that thtro was somt roason bthlnd It. It wasn't lust a rtrurblshlng. 1I0rowl That wasn't tholmprtsSlon you gavo mo. I thought that ~ ~rt going to nlckol and dlmt this to doath, Frankly, I am rtally concorned about drapts that do not permit poopltto hoar and permit adoquat& ltlovlslon transmission, You'vo got dlrroront quallty.you could gtt a choapo typo drape and you would havo all sorts of ltchnlcal probloms, Larsonll will 10m the OXptIUSt on draptS to lust about anyono olSt othor than mo, But I will say that I am pretty willing to nlckol and dime you on cosmtUc things, I nttd to htar thtjUSUrlcaUon and I thInk that Bob and Jim havt done a good lob or doing that. That Is alii wan~ to gtt out. Courtnty II don't know If tho camtra can pick It up or not but thtrtls a Whllo splotch on tht drapos back thtrt that has Imn thtrt slnco I havt boon on tht council and I am told that they aro scartd to doath to clean thtSt bocauSt thtn 'lit would be forced to bUY ntW onts bocauSt thoy would nom maktlt through a c1tanlng. Nov I Thoy aro old and Urtd.., McDI Any othtr discussion. I now doclart tho pubUc htarlng clostd. n lOLl ~I ' l' -10 pago I McDI this roally Isn't a public htarlng on this Iltm as most 01 you are oWJrt As you art also Wtll aware thm are &tvml things that art soon to be consldored by tho council and we wanltd to put this on tho agonda tonight that btroro we slJrt consldorlng somo or our own Idoas might tit or some or tho rocommondaUons rrom staU might bt that ~ W3nlod to glvo othu tnttrtslod parUts tho opportunity to lnltrjoct some of Ulolr Ideas so that we could also tako th~ under constderaUon at the same Ume. So, at the momont we ltnlJUvely hm scheduled next Monday nlgh~ Oct 7, horeln the council chambers and Informal motUng at lbe p3rUcular Umoto discuss this parUcular Issuo. It will bo an Informal work sosslon for tho council. At the momtnt It Is going to bo tho only agonda on tho Ume. It Is an o~n mooUng a public mttUng on that Is WIlat ~ hm schedultd right now. I gutSS WIth tha~ lr anyone would IIkoto addross the council on this ntvtr ondlng Issue. KUbby I Can I ask one quick qUtsUon. I know that thore art easy mochanlsms for getUng downtown buslntSS poople noUfltd or m*Ungs, When Wt say that ~ want public Input W3S thoro anything spoclal donoto get tho gonoral public aware. Atklnsl Not that I know of. Kubbyl Was thero a IIWe Uny Uny thing In tht paper mn. AUclns/1 don't rocolloct It I was gone last ~k so I couldn't ltll you. Jolt, do you rocolloct Is Whether you did anything spoclal. McDI Probably didn't since It Is not.theoreUcally not a true p,h. It didn't even get In to the small print AUclnsl Start momtltrs had mtt with mombors or tht DTA and tht Chambor and various commllltos. Kubby I Th~ aro easy mochanlsms that hm thtlr own Mtworks, It we say that It Is also for the gentral public I think that mtans that we havo an obllgaUon to make suro that thoy have an opportunity to know that thty can come hore, Stan Mlllerl RepresonUng the parking and transit committee or the DTA. Slnco January or 1991 the commltlto) has met on 0 regular basis to discuss parking conCtrns In the downtown arta. Wt have alttmptod to IdonUfy Issuts and recent dtvelopments In parking to dtltrmlno or at least spoculalt on the causos In somo of tho rocont dtvtlopmonts and to project What ruluro concorns may boo Our commilloo mtmoors rtprtsOnt rotall and proftSStonal servlco organlzaUons. Tho rotalls Includo th~ or tho Old Cap. Ctnltr as ~II as mtrchants outsldo tho ctnltr. Wo have had the Input and asslslJnco or Jot FoWltr of tho n lOLl LI ,I , "'0 pag~ 2 Parking Dlv , JOhn Lundell or Transit System and more rocenUy lerr Davidson or the Planning Dlv, Thty hav~ ~n mosl htlprul to us and "''I) appr~lalo tholr coopmUon. Tho commltt" r~08nt:os tho comploXlly 01 tho pUking issuos and tho rolaUonshlp 01 parking to furthor downtown devolopment Wo also recognIZe llnanctalllmttaUons and the ability to $trve tho P3rklng Mods 01 tht downtown arta. Tho commlt~ perceiVed a palltrn or Incrmed congtsUon In tho Capitol StrHt parking ramp, You WIll hear rrom robil membors Who art most altected by this dmlopmtnt and you Will htro their aSStssm~nt 01 tho curront uUllzaUon or tho parking ramp, And you WIll ne<<lto consider how tho curront utillzaUon WIll arrect ruturo dmlopmont In tho downtown arta. But until recenUy In this past month the commllt~ really had no evidence to support tho claims of our mtmbtrs about incroasod congtsUon In the ractllly. At that Umo the utilization or 1991 was Issutd, Which you may hm road, and It not only supporlOO the porceptlons 01 our mombtrs but It raised ovon more concern aboul both ramps. But ramps show a sharp IncrtaSt In Usagll OOglnnlng at the start of tho $(hool yoar In 1969. The Capitol Str*t ramp tht caP3ctly or 675 vohlclts Is running at a ~kly noon day Iml of about 700 vehlclts. Pretty much conslsltnUy throughout tho $(hool year. Summtr usage Is slgnlflcanUy lo~r as well as vacaUon and holiday usagt. Tho obvious conclusion Is that tho ramp Is highly utillzoXl during tho $(hool ym by sludvnts and faCUlty, staff and vlsilors to Ule Unlvmity. Onco more, tho Capital Strttl ramp Is of such dtslgn that the public perception or It It It bolng rull occurs ~Il bolow It's pracUcal capacily. At somtwhore around 700 cars the typical user Is prObably going around In drclts trying to fInd a spaCt, walUng for othtrs to move ou~ tXptrlenclng lines altho exlt and fHllng kind or rrustratod. Tho usagt or tho Dubuque Slrttt ramp also lncreastd In 1939 With tho mrage Usago or about 400 cars 01625. It Is not so rull. With 200 permit part-ors and thollollday Inn P3rt-er5 It's summer usagt doosn't drop vtry much, It's curront usage Is htavily ~lghttd towards long lorm parking. It's dtslgn Is much bottor and It's tntrancts and exlts can accommodalt hlgMr trartlc lIow. The commjl~ aSked well Why was thort such a suddtn IncreaSt In tht usago In 1969 and today we don't know for sure. Thtre has boon Illtie commercial dtVelOpmtnt In tho CB.I 0 ZOM tho past couplo or Ytars. Almosl no new construction, ono renovaUon of tho Paul Htlon building. Our membtrs ltll us thal rotail salos havo not Incrmod anyWhere close to tho usago or tho parking ramps, So Why Is Ult use n lOLlS .\ l -10 pilg~ 3 of th~ ramps up so high, Wo hm IdenUflod sovtral theoraos that appear to havo some merit first 19~9 corrosponds with tht Urnt that tho Unlv. ralsod their parking ratos. Tho Capitol Strtot parking racUlty Is not only cl~ to tho contral campus It Is also choapor than tht Unlv. faclUUos. Socondly we havt hoard tho suggosUon that maybt tho mix at tho Unlv. or Iowa has changtd In rocent yoars. Thore may bt mor~ commuwr students, part Umo studonts and facully mombors and start membtrs. But the third and by tho far the most roasonablo explanaUon for thtlncreasod usagtln tht ramps Is that tho dovtlopmont In the arn south or Burlington Stroet has alrtady Impac~ downtown parking. In tho past fow years thoro has bton approXlmawly 200 apt units construc~ In this nolghborhood and maybo somo minor commordal construcUon. Tho zoning for tho nolghborhood has rtqulrod tho construcUon or OM parking space ror oach living unit W. don't know how many cars are ownod by ltnants or thtst apartments. CHANGETAPETO REEL 91-72 SIDE 2 In addiUon to tho 200 parking spaCts provldtd by tho doVtlopers thtrt may bo 200.400 additional cars In this nolghborhood fighting ror on strttt and ort strttt parking spaCts. Although tho ltnants 01 thtst nolghborhoods probably don't us~ tho ramps Vtry much they prObably do 10m their cars In th~ nolghborhood during th~ day While thty go to class and go to work and tht rtsult Is the olimlnation or parking spacos that might othtrWlst bt usod by downtown commultrs. Wo btliovo that thoro aro Jmplo Who park In tht ramps simply bocaust thoy have no othor cholco. So WIlat Is going to happon In tho noar future. first tht Unlv. roctnUy ollmlnalod about 200 parking spaCts during two yoars or construction for tho now buslMSS school. Thoy will bt adding 160 spacos bac~ at that Umo. Although tho park~rs havo ~n asslgnod ol~Whtrt thtro now asslgnmonts ar~ not os clost or convenltnt as their old lot And short wrm parkers parUcularly In tho cold ,*athtr WIll no doubt bo using tho ramps mn moro. Secondly tho M.IA parking lot noar tho Holiday Inn will bt somtday olimlna~.It's 90 spacts will bt gOM. And thor~ will bo domand form ntw u~rs. In addition tho old library lot with 76 spaCts will IIkoly bo lost at somo point and It's new dtvtlopmont Whaltvor It may 00 Will croalt domand ror moro parking, Of cour~ tho aroa south or Burlington Stroot will conUnuo to havo rurthor n IOLlb ,\ I "'10 paio ~ dmlopmenl So we aro concorntd that thtst demands ror parking may hav~ a slgnUlcant and adm~ orr~t on tho ramps Which aro already at somo point or stress. Tho situation could reach an unaccoplablo point It nothing Is dono. Hore are somt or tho rocommondaUons or tho parking commltltt or tho DT A. Sevtralor thtst aro short torm, ralrly supertlclal and b3ndald approachts. (I Pormlt parking In the ramps. Ptrmlt parking Is a IfglUmatt uso or tho ramps. It Is a netd or oxlsting buslntssts as ~II as buslnesst5 Who might consldor locating downtown. 1I0~ver some tine tuning can 00 dODO to tho parking pollcl&S In the ramps. Wo rtCOmmtnd moving 75 pormlt parkors rrom tho Capitol StrHt ramp ovor to the Dubuquo Stroot ramp It condlUons gtt any worso. That point may 00 now. In addition, pormlt parkors In the Dubuquo ramp should 00 moved to higher Imls or tho ramp ror long torm parking and theroby rr~ the lo~r Imls ror shortor ltrm parkors. 2) Wo should continue to tlnd OOlttr ways of utilizing the downtown parking raclllUts. We netd to oncourago the uso of the Dubuque Sl ramp Which Is undor utillztd In relation to the Capital Stroot ramp. Wt nttd to Improvo the sign age that Idontitlts the entrance to tho ramps and ~ nooto got parkors from tho Capital Stroot ramp to tho Dubuquo Stroot ramp. We netd to tncouragt tho uso of the bus sysltm. We nttd to oducalt parktrs about Whon to uso the ramps and rtduco their frustration. Wo netd to promol& the Park and Shop and tho Bus and Shop systems. J) Is that one lot south or Burlington In parUcular dosorvfS sludy and atltntion. Tho government parking lot ntar tho post ornce could possible hm a ~ond or third dock addod It air rights were obtalntd rrom the ftdoral gmrnmont Tho space could 00 altractive bocauso It would not roqulrt the rtmoval of land from any othtr uso. And btcauso or the slope of that lot It otttrs tho possibility or surfaceltvel parking tntorlng the ractllty on sovorallocaUons. This space could 00 altractive not only for downtown commultrs but (or rtsldonls and commtrclal usors of that neighborhood. We have no Idta Whothtr the acquisition and construeUon or the ractllty Is feasible. It Is SOmtUllng we bollm should bo InvtsUga~ fully. The last two suggtSUons are moro dlrncull We btllove you should procetd With more parking In the Chauncey Swan Plaza. 140 spaCts and bt prepared to procetd With tho Rocroation Conltr parking ramp as well. I t Is Important not to walt until there Is a crisis In thew downtown ramps bofore additional parking Is altracttd, Lastiy ~ btlltve that Ule dtvtlopmtnt south or Burlington Stroot should bo done so that in n lOLl '-1 ,\ , -'0 pago 5 genoral parking Is constructed to moot U10 domand or tho arta.. While somo dovtlopment south or Burlington Stroot Is going to no doubt utillu tho parking ramps tho bulk or tho dovolopmont south or Burlington Str~t should havo Its own parking. Don't lot tho dmlopmont south or Burlington Stroot damago tho retJII and oconomlc Vitality or tho CB.IO zone. I would like somo or tho other memoors or the DT A and the pooplo give their Input as ....'IlII. Paul Smlth/l think arter hoarlng the discussion or tho mooUng Monday night I am not sure how prepar~ you aro for all or us that came wnlght to como up horo and talk so you may want to addrtss that again and find out Whothor as many pooplo that camo you want como up or nol My namo Is Paul Smith. I won a buslntss on tho downtown plaza and am vory Involvtd In tho DT A. I basically want to rollow up on What Stan said and lot you know that thoro Is Indotd concorn It the dmlopment south or Burlington procO\'ds Without adoqualt p3rklng for that area. I think most or us fool thoro Will 00 somolmpact that would not bo posltivo for us. So we lust want to follow up on that and I assumo that you Will probably want morolnput Monday night that you do tonight on this. McDI Actually, Paul, tonight Is.~ advtrUstd for tonIght and anyono Who wants or has any suggtstions or Idoas or anything at all, that Is What ~ aro bOro ror tonight to IIsltn bocauso our mOOUng on Monday night Is probably going to bo moro or a work sosslon among oursolvts at that particular time. Paul Smlthl There Is a numbor of us here from the downtown arta and I think basically want to como out for support for What Stan has propostd to you as far as Idm go. OUr blggost concorn Is that development south of Burlington cannot rtly on tho parking that Is on tho north sldo or Burlington In ordtr to maintain that dtvelopmonl Two things, Paul, Who Molt that report that Stan road. Audltncol That's tho conconsus of tho commlttot. Larson/Of tho DT A. That purports to speak for mryono. What I'd bt Inltrts~ In Is It pooplo havo ptrspocUvts that thoy fool nood mort omphasls than that rtport gave, that would bt Inltrost to mo. Also, was that rtport somothlng that Jtrr DaVidson saw bororo ho did his or Is this tho first Umo this has botn unvelloo 1 Smith I This Is tho first Umo that ~ purposoo this. Wo mtt With Jorr DaVidson and Jot FoWltr sevoral timts, lust to get their Input and to find out what that roport had said. n lOLl EI ,\ I -'0 pago 6 Larson I It sotmed to mo that many or tho conclusions and many or tht recommondaUons \<{fro vory, very 5lmllar In tho t~ reports, Which sptaks \<{fll ror mayt>> finding some SOluUons that r.pr*nt ovoryono's Inlorosts. Smlth/l think tho purposf or prtsonUng that for tho DrA WIlS to show that thort ~rothlngs that camo out In that rtport that ~ porcolvod possibly t>>rorohand and thore Wert things In that rt~rt recommondaUons that ~ agrtod WIth, I think part or our blggtst conCtrn was to show that again tho southsldo, we want to sot that doveloped, ~ oncourago that Our concorn was adoqualt parking ror that southsldo dtvolopmen~ and that tho ramps on tht northslde art alroady strOSSOd to tho point Whtro, Whon I havo customtrs comt In and I think othtr pooplt too, tht hardost part about downtown buslnoss Is parking, and I think that most or you know tha~ too, At least my concorn, and I think that most or tho concorn from tho DT A Is ~ want to mako surf thorels adoqualt parking for tho southsldo dtvtlopmonl Horowl Paul, you lfsltntd to lbo discussion last night about financing Has this sort of discussion laktn placoln your commlt~ as \<{fll? That Idoa or oncouraglng Uto southstde dmlopmont would possibly ntod encouragomtnt of tlnancO$ from tho DT A, so that thoro would bo this ItssOnlng Orrtct on tho oxlsUng parking, Smlthl Woll, I think that ~ havo not specifically approachtd how thtsO things can bt rlnancod, I Ullnk ~ wallOOto gtt our conclusion until ~ found out from tho city What thtlr proposals \<{fro, And \Ir\)'ro not surf What the bost thing Is to do, Wo making rocommendaUons to you folks and asking you to look at It and got tho ovtrall vlow to sot What Is bostl'm not suro thtre11 bi dltteront opinions from oven DrA mombors as to Which asptcts and how to fund It WIll bi tho bost way to do It Thort's a lot of opinions. Nov II think, It you don't mind, tho DT A could discuss thIs btcauso It Wtms that from Wllat ~ got ytsltrday, our starr Is rocommtndlng an Incroaso In tho parking ramp rtoS to construct lust one sldo and tho Dr A Is rocommondlng that we do both sldos of tho COllfgo StrtO~ mako t~ docks, Wt nttd to htar from you, aro tho downtown morchants going to acctpt an Incroaso In tho parking foos In tho downtown ramps, as ~II as tho othor ontS. And It you discuss this, and It you come back and say, we WIll accopt an Incroaso of so much but not that much, It WOUld 00 very helprul. Smlth/lthlnk that Is SOmething that ~ havo kicked around and ~ aro planning to do. I'm not suro ~ ~ro propared to do that biforo ~ n lOLl q lJ/lftY) ,I I found out What tho clty'S rocommondaUons ~ro and What tho study shol'Nd . Nov I I'm lust saying. pltast think aboul it Smlthl y~, I think W~ detlnl~ly Will I think ~ Will look at that and try to como to somo to some conclusions rrom What our f~lIngs aro. But thm's quilt a fow dtrrmnt vlows sUII so ~'re not quilo all tho way yet to glvo you What ~ r~t Is tho best posslblo ans~r. Wo tossod out some Idm or What aro tho possiblllUts, I think. Horow/lt's a good roport Nov II think also It the Dr A Is IIs~nlng. not all or your memoors parUclpalt In tho Bus 'n' ShoplPark 'n' Shop system. I think somoUm~ you would rocolveloss complaints about parking It pooplo would got a IItUt mOnty. · Smith Tha~s an ongoing concorn or ours too. And ~ approach that ovory yoar In trying to oncourago pooplo to USf that What happens In downtown Iowa City Is that you have a vory unlquo mix. That's one or tho draws that ~ havo, that brings pooplo downtown, and allows thom to do buslntss Is that thero's a vory unlquo mix, and With that comes unlquoldoas. So, While \W don't havo authority om everyone to mako thom do tha~ ~ dtrlnlltly oncouragolt among all momoors, be(auso we fttl &YOn It thtro wm IncroaSts In the parking sysltm, It you'ro coming downtown to shop, WI) pay for It And I do accept parking at my storo. Larson/l~s mainly pooplo Who soli liquids that we havo a probltm With Kubby I I'm glad you said that and not me. Smlthl Wo want to work roally hard on this oocaUst this Is obviously a big concern of ours. For mystlt, I camt to Iowa City 4~ ytars ago with tho InltnUon of bolng horo ror six months and to loavo, and I round I rtally IIkod Iowa City and I staytd, and my buslntss has boon horo for a year, and I enjoy downtown. I think It's very unique. I think Iowa City's a wondorrut placoto boo We hm a very prosperous downtown ror tho slzo or our community. If you look at many othtr placts, and towns that I'vo sotn mystlt that don't havo downtowns eVtn clost to What wo havo. So While ~ have a good downtown and ~ don't forOstO sorlous problems, our concern Is maintaining It btrore anything would happen to diminish that Larson/l'm vtry ImprtsStd with the convergtnce or congruenct of tho thoughts procoss by both groups. It so-.msto mo the stair's rocommondaUons and thoughts, plannIng and zoning's about It you're going to do somtthlng south or Burlington, than you'd bttltr provldt tht parking. All or tho massaging or tho traUlc sys~m or parking sys~m that ~ havo that Jorr has rocommendod and ~ aro consldorlng all sotms to mako sonst to you to a cortaln dtgrco. I'm n IO~,O .1 I '10 pago 7 glad to ~ that th~ro's not this big dltttronct or opinion btto,mn tho morchants, DTA, and staft', rtcommondaUon,. They ~m vory similar tom&. Smlthl Ytah, wo'vo trltd OVtr tho past nino months or this yoar tSptClally to addrtss this. Stan's tht ht3d or our parking commlttoo and ho's done an oxcollont lob or follOWing up and obtaining InrormaUon ror us, I think part of that taslntsS that's happtnoo Is that ~'Vo trloo to maintain btlltr conlJct With city staU and to ~ Involvtd With this to a grtater dtgrtt than What ~'vt ~n In tho past That's alii havo. McDI Thank you. Joan Gllplnl Good &Vtnlng council mtm~rs. My namols Joan Gilpin and I'm happy to bo htro as a rttallor In tho downtown aroa for tho past 14 yoars.I'm also tho DTA's prtsldtnt this yoar.1 do slton tho board ror tho Chambtr or Commorco, so I'm sort or wtarlng thrtt hats tonlgh~ but I rttl ~ all art roprosonting the same goal Mro, and that Is that I personally and tho DrA as ~II as tho Chambtr Board concur With tho roports prosonted by Stan Mlllor. Has tVoryoM had a chanco to road that ptrsonall y? Nov I This Is tho tlrst ~'vo hoard of It Gllplnl Stan ran through tach point vtry, vory well and I do approclate tho hard work that ho's put In and tho commlltoo. So Wt dotlnlltly all concur with that roport and support It You know, thoro's this Wholo thing bot~n perctpUon and roaUly, and I hOar my customors como In or I talk to poople that I work with on othor commltltts Who livt In Iowa City and say they ntvtr como downtown btcau5t thtro's no placoto park. I work downtown tvtryday and I'm downtown &Vtryday and thort Is placts to park, but tholr percopUon Is their reaUlyand I'm not going to chango tha~ but Wt do want to makolt . tasltr ror tho Park 'n' ShoplBus 'n' Shop system that tht clly and tho DTA administer togothor. So thtro's things like that that ~ dotlnltely art willing to do and want to do. Of courso ~ can't mako ovoryono parUclpalt In tha~ but It Is oUtrtd. And we fttl that &VtryoM should parUclpalt In llto makt It a bolltr and oasltr oxporlonco ror our customors to como down and shop. Wo11 bo happy to pay ror thtlr parking. Wo11 bo happy to glvo thom a bus rldt homo It that Is thtlr cholco or transportaUon. So thm's things that ~ art doing In a vory poslUvo dlrocUon and will conUnuo to do. I gutsS my conctrn Is that ~ don'~ although wt do support both tho Chambor and tho DT A and mysolf personally as a buslntss person downtown, I support and oncourago tho dovolopmonl south or Burlington In parUcular, but not . i I I I I I I n I 0 ~, '1 ,I I -10 PiI&H at the fXptns. or somt of tho o1'isUng parking ptrcolved or rtlal probloms we hm. In lJlklng WIth Jert I said I don't WIlnt to comt Wfort tho council and txpr~ some or th~ concorns It I don't havt any soluUons. I'm kind of ono or thoso pvoplo Who I don't Uko complalnors It thty'ro not WIlling to WOrk toWllrd a SOluUon. And M said I don't think tho council wants to hoar SoluUons rrom you. Rather thoy WIlnt to know your concerns so that wo can work together to mate this work tho bost WIly posSlblo. SO oven though we as tho DT A, as tho Pilrklng commltteo, ~ don't have any solutions. we hm conetrns that wo n~ to prfSfnt to you all so that wo can movt In the proptr dlrocUon and make the bost dtdslon posSible. I approclalt your Input as rar as tho rlnancts and cortalnly that's SOmothlng that's alWllYs right In front of our facts. I gum anothor thing that I would throw out hero Is that my undUSlJndlng Is that to oncourago dmlopmont south of Burlington, to oncourage th~ dovolopers to comtln and bUild Whaltvor, that ~'vt reductd tho requlrtd parking spaCtS, or that's tho poltnUal situation. I roally fool strongly that th~ devoloptrs should In dttd have parking spactS available for their ttnants. And also any commtrcial that might go In on tht lowor lovols. I think that thoro neoos to bt a provision In thoro that parking Is provldtd, btcaUstl rtally fool that It Will Impact tho downtown advorsoly It ...... don't hm adequalt parking In tho aroa. Kubby I And you moan parking on silt, not parking Is provided and It's two blocks away, Is that What you'ro saying? Gllplnl Not noctsS.lrlly on silt, but In tho aroa. Btcaust ptaple cannot drive up right In front of my storo, I'm ustd to thal But thoro I' noarby parking, Whethtr It bo tht ramp or Whother It 00 tho fact that thty ~r.lucky onough to gtt somo on.strtot mtltrod parking. But I just roally rool Uko noarby Is roally Importanl Kubby lit would bo roally groat to know What ntarby mtans. Gllplnl Rlghl Kubby lB<<austlast night we worotalklng abou~ Is two blocks too far to havt someono walk. And dOtS It mako a dlrtoronco It they'ro a shopper, or thty Uve downtown and their parking Is two blocks away. It would 00 rtally htlpful ror us to have a dtrlnlUon of What Is noarby. How many blocks aro you talking aboul DOtS It mallor It thoy havoto cross a major stroot or nol Gllpln/l gUtsS that's rtally alii havoto say. Ctrtalnly we do approctalo WOrking c10stly WIth tho city stafr. It's OOon wonderful to 00 Inrormod about this. I know tho Chamoor or Commtrco board mombtrs and mystlf as prtsldtnt or tht DT A and my mcomoors havo OOon Informed - - -, n I U ~I I~ ,I I -10 pago 9 or U1e dlrrerent m"Ungs and 1 r"1 ~ have some good support Mre tonlghll do also think Karen had a good sugg.,Uon that I really "I this should bo a concern 01 all the ~ple that ,,^,rk, live, shop lInd play In the Iowa City area. ~Ust It's not going to only arrtct mo as a business ownor In downtown 10Wll City, but It.s going to hm an artoct on all or us that Uvoln tht area, so I think WIlother they come or no~ thoy should. Kubby I That's tholr control. Gllplnl Rlghl Thanks a lol McDI Thank you, jm. Gj'I"A~lYIt Clydo -I Mld.Amorlcan Savings Bank. We aro a member or tho DT A, and on oohaU or tha~ ~ do support 90~ of What tho DT A Is rocommondlng. But ~ aro on the south sldo, and ~ are looking to What Is going to happen In tho devtlopmont or tho southsldo. On stw parking Is not somothlng ~ rw'ls gOing to strvo that first block arta from Burlington ovor to Court Strwt for on slta parking. It ~'ro truly trying to expand the downtown aroa to tho southsldo, Ytars ago doclslons that were made for tht walking mall areas Whon we know that we'd hm parking problems thon. We hm to lust oxpand on the parking aroas we have right now Whethor It Is building the parking ramps hlghor. I don't know Whtthor that has bton explortd. Again, It Is how do ~ pay for It We parUctpalt In the Park and Shop program right now, Wo don't have a prOblem With thal You are going to dlscourago buslntsStS from coming Into the south side It they have to provldo on silt parking. That ana Is vory valuable as It Is right now. And taking up extra spaCt ror pUlting In a small parking arta Is not approprlalt. And Whon ~ are asking new buslntsSts to do that When downtown was shaped yoars ago not to provide thal We made tho doclslons to provide the parking ramps then. Wt just havoto expand on the parking ramps. ClOSt to locaUon ramps. I lito the Idta of the fedoral paring lot It we can oxpand on thal Wo have madolt a walking area. Let's conUnue that one block south aroa Into a walking area and not have to provide addlUonaJ parking ror the buslnossos that come In. It lust dotsn't make a lot or stnst. On our bohalf, we aro part of the DTA but downtown Isn't there yel We want to soo downtown got to Whore we aro at to strvotho community. Nov I Whoro are you. Clydo IWe aro on tho corntr of Court and Dubuquo Strool Kubby II havo a quosUon. It thoro was anothtr Itvel or parking on the fedtral properly, ,,^,uld that bt Rtarby enough ror your purpoSts. n I 0 ~r ~I ,\ I -10 page 10 Clyde I Yos, That would 00 or by tho 1I0llday Inn or Chauncey Swan All thal Right now PfOplo.parking Is porcolvcd as a problem, Wo hm slo~ down trartlc so much on Burlington Strtot as It Is With all tht stop lights. Parl'.lng In one arta and walking bacl'. and rorthls just going to bt tXptClOO. Kubbylln your percopUon,ChaunctY SWan additionallevol would.you think customtrS would park thoro and WIllk to you buslnoss, Clydo lit depends on Whtre tho buslntsStS are dmlopod, We havt our own parking lot so we don't havoto addross that spocltlcally for our~lvos. Now, Is It Is rlgh~ ~ WIll build our own parking ramp and strvo tho aroa thoro. That Is btsldo tho point Trartlc, right now, tho walking trartlc Will ~rvo tho area provldor thoy have or ~ can build on olthor tho Holiday parking ramp or Chauncoy Swan or OVtr by tht rodoral building. That Is In tho arta, That Is how ~ servo downtown as It Is. Thoy u~ tho parking ramps and WIllk to Whore Ulty nttd to go. That Is our rttllng oolng on tho south side and wanting to sot tht south sldo dovolop. Again, we support90~ or What the DT A has proposod In tho aroas. Wo are not opposod to holplng pay tht addlUonal cosl Jay Honohanl Mr. Mayor and momoors or tht council you chtalOO mo out or a sptOCh a couplo \mks ago Randy so I am going to get It now. I gUtsS I am vory supporUvo of What I hoard Miss Gilpin and tho parking commllt&e say becau~ I think that Is somt or tho thIngs that I have bttn concernod about the last two years that I have bttn appearing hue. Whtn I htard that this WIlS coming up I thought that I would do somo thinkIng about thIs problom and I did como up With somoldoas that I would IIkoto glvoto tho council and to the staU that may bo a UlUo dlUoront but I think go towards tht samt problom. Addrosslng somothlng that Karon brought up, I think that ~ havo got thr.. parking problomsln Iowa City. Not justono. I think that It we look at It as just one probltm w aro missing a point Tho rlrst problom Is long term storago. That Is ror both the sludtnt populaUon that Is around tho arta during tht day that Is. And that Is ror tho buslntsStS, tholr employ..s, and ortlcos and their tmployoos. That's a problom. And I thln~ Ulat problom has to bo addrosstd. ThO stCOnd problom I Ullnk Is What I call tht studtnt probl~m Itstlf. I thanl'. that has to bt addrtssod dlltorenUy. I thln~ that It can bt or shOuld bt addrosstd dlrftrtnUy Ulan tho long oorm storage prOblem. I was tJktn by Wllat Ms. Novick said yosltrday about tho poriphtrallots. I think that you ........ --y-oor -- n I 0 S LI ,I I -10 pago II might want to think about that ror studonts. ~auSf sludtnts aro engagtd In that very thing right now with the Unlv. II you rt<311 you've got South Riverside Drive. You've got storage lots ror studont parking, And maybO some porlpborallots Uko sbo suggoslod mlgbt bolp somo or that problom. Particularly It It Is cboap onougb. l\O(aust In a lot or th~ apartmont compl~xos around our building. thoy chargo tho stud~nts for parking In tholr bUilding underneath. Uke Blackbawk, ror oxample. So tho studonts art prone, somt 01 thom, not to pay that parking. We art talking $35.40 a month. Whlcb can bot an awtullotto a studonl 1I0v II board or ono that was S60. 1I0nohan/l wouldnt bo a bit surprlStd. But, It you could provldt somt or thOSt lOts, that might r~\Ievo somo or tho prtssuro that tho city downtown has ~ust or tho students. And you know that students, thoy will do almost anything Whtn It comts to parking I go back a long timt on this Issue. Whon I was pollcoludgo the sludonts prtstn~ about tholr sharoln tho populations or lraUle violations. When It camt to parking vlolaUons thty had 90~. I think that maybt somo goal that kind of moved them out or this aroa with thtst porlphorallols, Storage lots It thoy aro, might htlp. You don't have to go too far I don't think. The railroad tracks.thoro might bt arta down thero and tho land costs would bt a lot chtaper for you than some or tho land costs that ~ aro talking about right clOSt to downtown. It also might bt a lot chtaper than ramps. The othtr parking problem Is your short ltrm parking probltm, And that Is What thtst poople aro conctrned about and lusUflably so. And I think that you should, might thought would bt that tho Chauncoy Swan lot should 00 moving out tho long ltrm, tho omploytts, the buslnoss pooplo out to that lot and not havt thom In the downtown ramps. As much as you can. I don't havo tho staUsUC9 JeU has. But I think It you can accomplish that. I know a lot or pooplo that walk rrom tho Iowa Stalt bank that park In that lot across tho strttl And I think that again It Is a mat~r or cost and I don't havo any rlgurts or any slaUSUC9. ThtSf pooplo got that all on mo but I have boon. Tho city council In 1963 Whtn I was city attornoy ror tho first yoar, tho parking problom was one 01 tho first things that thty wero WftSUlng with. It hasn't gone away. Butl think maybt a dllteront approach lIke I am suggtSting might bt of somo hOlp btcause I think tho major problem Is tho long ltrm storago and tho sludonts. And I think that It you curo tilose two probltms, tht shortltrm parking problem won't 00 thoro. Thty will have tho n I CI ~r 5 ,I I -10 pagt 12 parking spac~ for tho customtr. I couldn't miss saying ho\tMm that I don't want any ollp3nston or any modlflcaUon south or BurUngton Without addrosslng the parking problem. Bocaust I know that Ilia gong to Impact us and I wilt yo that I agr9t With tho DT A that It Is going to Impact them. I know PfZ I guess r"ls tht samo way right now. I would urge you to consider thost as a thr" prong thing. lIot as a OM prong thing. You might havo a ootltr chanco or goWng somo Idoas to solvtlt that aro not so ollptnso as five story ramps, Larsonl Jay, I don't want to start a dobalt about the Issues at all. But since you art hort, If part or tho problom Is that tht Clinton Str"t ramp tills up by 9 am. or gtts 50~ full by 9 am. Which aro obviously studonts since none or tho storts are open, What doos.how are you mooting tholr nttds by providing ramp or lot somoWhoro rarthor Whtn What thoy want Is to drive as clost as they can to class and got out and walk as IIWe as thoy have to. 1I0nohanl Cortalnly thore aro a lot or sludonts like that and othor than shooUng them I don't know how you solve the probltm. Larsonl But undorstand also, on tho way back from tho car thty stop and buy things and thoy havolunch. Honohanl Some or thtm do and some of them don't Larson/lt Is nottnUroly a curso. 1I0nohanl But If you Will think, You como down tomorrow morning With me about 7: 15, ~ Will stand at my orrtce and we Will ~ thom como across lIke ants rrom all thOst complems coming up town. Thost are studtnts primarily, And thty do havt parking spacts. Whtthtr thty are paying for thtm or not And they walk. ParUcularly Whon tho weathtr Is nlco, Thoy walk, In ract they do such a good lob or It that tho guy at Qulk Trip or I may 00 calling It tho wrong namo, The one at the cornor of GUoort and Burlington. Thoy walk across his property so bad that ho has had to build a sptClal stairs for thtm. Thty Will stay though and thty Will walk. I thInk you can ~ It Whtn you soo the studonts do this all tho Ume. And that Is from Johnson and all down thore. Clark and Blackhawk and all of thost. Larsonl But what I am saying Is that It we aro trying to got and open up somo room In tho Clinton Stroot ramp, It Isn't going to do any good to build a ramp six blocks away rrom downtown and say okay students this Is only $20 a month.you guys can park thtre so our shoppers can havo Clinton Stroot. lIonohanll didn't say ramp. ......-..- - 1"-- - n I. 0 ~, b .1 i -10 P3eo IJ Larson/l don't cart What It Is, TIley want to park a block from class, Honohanl Not all or thom. I think It you provldo them somoplaco to p3rk thoy Will. I know pooplo that can't find a parking placoln tho morning on Johnson. I know ontln P3rUcular silting right ovor thm With a rod shirl 11011 park In tho Roc. Con~r parking lot and rot<! tho mo~rs While ho works It ho can't rind a parking plact on Johnson. What I am saYing Is It you can prov/do somo or this you might And thoro aro no mtraclos I am suro you all rtcOgnlzo on tho parking problom. But maybo an approach or kind or soparaUng It might bo ablo to work. I btUm and don't hold moto this. Yoars ago It Is my undo"tanding that Madison had a kind or program Uko Ms. Novick suggts~. Whoro thoy had tho perlphorallots and thoy buSStd tho studtnts In. AgaIn, I don't know What tho cost of anything IIkothat Is. Thank you vory much. KUbby II think It Is roally hard to ans~r that qutstion. Will pooplo park on perlphorallols or not without asking pooplo, I think It Is hard. Pooplo say yos thty Will or no thty won't Wo won't know unloss ~ ask tho pooplo. And thon you don't ovon roally now onco ~ hm tho answer. tlov / Wo havo umlttn permits and a fow moro pooplt on a walUng list Thty could 00 glvon a qutsUonnalrt.1 Kubby / Or a pilot program. Bob Wtlsh/2526 Mayflold. Ltt mt say Kartn that I did rtad about this discussion tonight and I am not a mtmoor of tho DT A. I think that maybo that I may havo boon In Iowa City too long bocauso I agroo With What Jay lust said. Jay, tht rtason.Whatl was going to say, was tht basic quostion you not<! to ask In all this Is Who art you going to sorvo. I thInk that has dtrlnod that my well In ltrms of throo classifications of persons. And trying to addross all thIngs, I agroo with Jay, It Will not do It Ltt mo glvt you a couplt or posltivt suggtstions. And a couplo or warnings rrom my persptCtivo. I) My obSorvaUon Is Whtn tht Unlv .15 not In sosslon you can find all kinds or parking spaCts on Iowa Ave. Which has a largo part or on stroot parking to Strvt tho business arta. It might bo worth WhUoto lust tXptrlmtnt and say In the ont hundrod block on Iowa Avo.. To mako thoso mt~rs 45 mlnutts or much shorltr a maximum Umo so that studonts cannot park thoro and go to class and go back Without golting a tickot My gUtsS Is that It you kopt giving thom tickots. About tho tenth one thty would Itarn to not park thoro and you would open up a magnlflctnt number or placts ror parking. 2) Whon downtown was - I CI ~, .-, ,\ , -10 pago 14 doslgntd In terms or loading zonos. You have a lot or loading zonos that art not btlng utillzod. Bf(aUSf all of a luddon Wt hm dls<ovmd that trucks can park tn tho mlddlo of tho strtft and croat. ha:ards thoro and thoy don't havo to Ust tho loading zonos, So you hm got a hock of a lot of loading zonts to bt parking spaCts. Courtnoy I TMy aro. You aro right that thty art not being utillztd as loading zonts. Th&y art being utillzod as parking spots. Frtt. WolShl Makt them In to parking zonos b.1ck again. On. way or tho othor. )) In ltrms of a suggosUon. I know that you know In othor conltxt. tho problems that tho &tnlor clUZons raCt In relation to tho &tnlor conltr and all. I personally think. Ono of tho t3rly studlts In parking was done around 1960 and anothor one was done In 1965 Whtn I first camtto tho communlly. All or thOSt studlts IndlcaWd that one or your primo nOods for parking spaCts Is at tho north sldo or tho buslnoss district and you kttp buJldlng tho ramps down to tht south sldo or tho buslnoss district and Ignoring that othor problem. Lot mo suggtst although tho timt kttps going away and makts It moro dlrtlcult that utilizing tho ramp on tho Stnlor Conltr.EcumtnUcal To~rs lot I Ullnk Is a rt31 ftaslblllly. It ovon It It oxttndod In ltrms or half or tho ovorhang on Iowa Avo. Or, Itt mo suggos~ Linn Strttt With oithor vacaUng that or om air parking ramp thoreln terms of &trvlng that Wholo north aroa of tho communlly would be a good thing. Kubby / Would you ropeat that last onto I don't got Whtro you aro talking about on Linn Strttl WoISh/ Linn Strttt bttWtin Iowa Avo and Washington. Linn Strttt doosn't go any placo txcopt up to Iowa Avo. It Is c10s0d already by tho Unlv. You could u~ olthor r.o,w, abovo tho strtft or you could clOSt tho stroot With somo tntrancts through tht First National Bank, for olClmplt, parking aroa. I am not a doslgnor but I think that that could be dtslgntd. Ltt mo say In ltrms or tht rllCord and I almost dtcldtd not to ltll you this but Whtn you htar about tho probltms With tht Capital Stroot lol Tho rlrst pr~ntaUon on the urb.1n rontwal doslgn In rtlation to that parking ramp happen to 00 madt In tho b.1&tmont of the church thal ~ servo. Wo lookod at thoso plans. I had somt roal problems and I would s~ar to you UJat What tho doslgntlr or thoso plans told mo was well ~ reallzo It Will hm a mouS9 trap arrllCt but the bait Will be so good that poople Will kttp coming b.1ck. I said that that might work In Chicago and not In 10Wll City. A warning or dangtr signs. It I read corrllCUy, you aro all thinking --------....---- ----- - ,-- - n I 0 S EI -10 page 15 about fncr~aslng bus fartS to pay for parking. I don't know Whethor that Is correct or not But gH. ~ Where I dllter WIth Jay Is, I am not surt that ~ want to provldt parking for long ltrm ~plo Who como down and park tholr cars and stay downtown for olght and halt hours and thon got back In tholr car and drive homo. My rHllng Is that ~ should not provldt parking for thoso persons and ~ should oncourago thom thon to USf the transportaUon sys~m. And that would strongthon public transportation. And I roallzo that somo of my buslnm frlonds say hty but IUko thal I lust havoto say that I think that thoso are Utd togtther and you have to say Okay, Who are ~ going to sorvo tho most I would say that tho most prOSSing parking nttd Is for tho short ttrm shoppers. I think that tho short ttrm shoppers. A lot of ~plo WIlnt to como downtown and go In to one storo and buy OM or two things. And Wi really don't provldo that rtally short ltrm. This Is Why I think that somo my short mottrs on tho one hundrtd block on Iowa Avo. would do that and I think that It would roally holp. Lot mo say It you aro thinking about Incrtaslng tho ratts, parking ralt9 and nobody has menUontd this tonlgh~ but I pass this locaUon now at loast a couplo Umts &Vtry day, and that Is a thing calltd WalMart. Thoro's a big hugo parking aroa out thort. And It you want to do somo damagoto downtown you Incrmo tho parking fotS downtown and you want hm to worry about tho dovolopmont south of Burlington. SO IgutsS What I'm saying Is, IIsltn to Jay ror oncoln ttrms of Who you can strvo. Whorol dlfftr with Jay Is I'm not surf that tholong.ltrm o/ght hour parking you roally should provldo for. I think that's What public transportaUon should do. And that should bo urgtd. Tho other Is, I think thtrt aro somo vory slmplo things that don't cost a dadgum ponny.ln ttrms or, wo'vo got a lot or spacts ror loading 20ntS that artn't being ustd tha~ as Daml says aro beIng ustd for parking. Put thoso back Into parking spacos. thty woro thoro. Courtnoy II think Ulat ~ art missing an tXColltnt opportunity by not putUng 15 mlnult mtltrs In all or tho alloys. Thtrols rovonutS bton lost thtre conslanUy. Welshl That Is anothtr thing. I feel strongly thought that on tht alleys you should roturn thom. In rtlaUon to sIght and What Is too long or a way. I cannot ltll you rrom a commorclal slJndpolnl I can loll you What church llteraturo says. That Is an Important ractor Is slgh~ not dlstanco. It you can SOt Whtro you aro gOing. For txamplo, you go to a shopping aroa Uko at Targot. You can park a block and a halt aWllY and It doosn't SHm that you aro parking a long ways becaust you can - - ,I , I -..-.- -- -r-- .... - - - --.... n I 0 S q ,\ I -10 pagt 16 ~ It and It Is right there. Thoro Is nothing In ool~n, So It Is not tho dlstanc~ at Imtln church Uloratur~. It Is slghtlmporlJnco So I guoss my pita to you Is go b.1ck and ask the b.1slc quosUon who m you trying to sme and then to adopt a policy to do that. I think, quilo rrankly, II you &.lId and I r~allu that this would draw lIack rrom a vory ImporlJnt steUon or this community, that we aro not gOing to provide that long oorm olght hour parking and urge thost pooptoto uw public transportaUon and would make some other adjustments. My gu~ Is that you would rind that thero would bt enough placts for tht shoppm In down town and I would urgt you to glV~ thost things consldmUon. Thank you. Anna Bussl Bonton Stroot. I know that you are all thrtllod that I am Mro again. Larsonl Anna, When Randy loavts Jay In tho mornIng, ho can go to your placo for colt.. and watch the tratrlc on your cornor. Bussl WolI, as ~ all know that When It Is dovolopod tho apartmonts will come and so will the poople and cars. I am all for dmlopment as ~II as tho next guy. One of tho Mxt things that doesn't soom that anybody has rtally hit on bOro yottonlghtls that Whtn you dtvelop south or Burlington Stroot aro you going to croalt the samo parking probloms for thoso or us Who on that end or town that you have crta~ for the poople over on this end or town. That Is kind or one or my conCtrns Is that you know thatlllvtd up on North Johnson Street and couldn't park In my own houw. or In around on tho street In my own houw and In my own Mlghborhood btcauw of all or tho various parking problems that are In tho neighborhood. I know a lot or tht people that are on the north end have bton heroin tho past. Wo havo all sot through thoso meetings and have complalntd that tht stroot parking Is so bad that evon the olt sldos that doosn't work. TbOre Is a lot or problems thtre to be addrtssOO and all or thtsO gonUemon and lad Its havt addrtSstd tho ract for the buslntSSts. But there Is sUII tho rost or us who own property ror rosldtnce. This Is going to atroct also. OM of tho things that I don't undtrstand Is Whtn you havt to come btlore tho clly ror a permit to build and you havo apartments and you havoto roqulro so many parking spaCtS, how can one chargo for thoso parking spacos Whon It Is a roqulromtnt by UlO city that you havo them In the first placo. I can undorstand why thty would chargo ror tho &Conomle roasons but whtn It Is a roqulrtmtnt and you have an apartmtnt and you are paying rent It would ~m to bt that you could n lOb 0 ,\ i -10 pago 17 at loast hm a parking spaco thorll. Whon you hm tho ramp.WIIon you aro In on this ramp. Granted I am on. or th~ ~plt Who trios to avoid shopping downtown. I am tho first onoto admit Il So I know. But Whm IlIvo I can go right out to 330 and ror about What It would cost moto go downtown, I can 00 In Cedar Rapids. It Is truo but I havo many nolghbors Who r~1 tho same way. Thoro Is a Wholo group or us Who cOUld como down horo and ltll you tho samo thing, It Is not just mo. I am just ono Who Will admit Il Walmar~ of courso, Is coming to a nolghborhood nm me and thoy do hm a good parking lot and It w1l1oHoct tht downtown In tho fact that It dOtS hm parking. But tho downtown Is always going to hm Its cliental and tho oultr onds Is always going to havo tholrs. That Is tho way It always Is. I don't think that ~ aro going to $tO downtown lOSing much business. But Whtn you slJrt to dmlop south or Burlington Strttt tho parting down thoro rtally should be ~II thoughtoUl Whoro I am at ~ havo pooplo WtIo park on our oH strHl I hm haultd tho, out or my.1 havo a parking lot behind my houso. But I haul ~plo out or my parking at all of tho Umo OOcauso thoy just prtsumo that It Is thtro for anybody to uso, On Mlllor Strto~ I don't think Hudson Is sa bad bocauso right now thm Is not.you know thoy havo too Ught of parking om thm. But on Mlllor Str..t ~ havo ptaplo that park thoro all day and go up to tho cornor and grab tho bus and tho car Is thoro all day, Kubby / So that Is their perlphorallol BuS$/ And tho thing Is, of courso, oolng a hair drtsSOr In Iowa City for 20 samo Ytars. I hoar this from othor nolghborhoods. I am'~ aro not tho only ono. Thoro aro ptaplo. Somo of It Is Unlv.llospltal parking ptaple. Some or It Is downtown parking ptaplo. A lot or It Is ptaplo Who work In Iowa City and Who aro going to be gono ror olght hours and I think tht samo as tho one genUoman doos that tho olght hours CHANGBTAPE TO REEL 91- 73 SIDE I trying to gtt oul You aro going to find pooplo gassod to dtathln their cars In tho ramps. Is thtro anything that can bt done to addrtss somo of thoso things. And oxptdtaUng tho ramps to got In and oul I thank you for your Umo. AgaIn, ploaso consldor tho rosldencos as well as tho buslnosSts WIIon you look at this. n lOb 'J .1 I -'0 p,lgo 16 Pbll ShJvtl From S\'r\~ts and Trtats and I also ropr~nt Old Capital Ctnttr Morchants AssoctaUon and I am also on UIO parking commllU-o. Tho mall, a lot or pooplo think Old Cap. Conror runs that mall ramp. You can Imaglno wball:lnd of complaints that ~ got all kinds. Tho avorago customor's porcopUon Is that tho ramp Is full most or tho Umo and ~ got all kinds or complaints. Ont or our blggtst probloms as or lalt Is that ~ havo had a lot or loaso como up and a lot or corporaoo rops from rfglonal rotallm aro conmnod about tho ditrlcully In rtndlng a placoto park In tho ramp. And this occurs at 6:30 a m. This morning I got thort at 6:30 and walked tho rlrst two Imls and thty Wtro full. Wo want tho studonts to park. I don't havo any soluUons. That Is Why I am on tho parking commlltet so wo can como up With somo soluUons. Tho studonts do sond monoy In all of our buslntssos so ~ want thom thoro, Wo oncourago all or our mallomploytoS not to park In the ramp but as of lalt a lot 01 thom hm choson parking In tho ramp btcauso tho str~t parking that thoy chooso to park In south of Burlington thoro aro othor pooplo parking. Part or that Is In our study about poople Who IIvo around thore, Thoy areltavlng thoro cars thort and walking. So ~ havo poople Who art working In tho mall and parking In tho ramp. Anothor concorn or Old Cap. Mmbants AssoclaUon Is that our salts Incroasos art not k~plng paCt with tho parking. Thoy art not going up IIko we would wisb and our parking Is not gotUng any botltr, Tht htalth f tht dOWlltown cllmalt Is dopendont upon adoqualt parking and Old Cap. Ctnltr will conUnutto work with DTA Which ~ art a mtmbtr or and the council In goIng up with ad~uato soluUon,. Thank you. 1I0row/ Phll,l havo a quostion for you. It your salts art not going up commensuralt with tho parking. Thon aro your assoclaUon mombors surt that tho studtnts aro actually purchasing things moro than lust consumablt goods on silt, Is thtro rtally a rolaUonshlp bttw~n having tho studonts parking thort and tho proUt that your morchants art making. Is thoro anyway that that can bt found out Shin/I don't know Susan. Lot mo ask Sandy. Audltnctl (can't htar) Horow/ You will havo to como up and talk In to tho mlcrophont, This Is InoortsUng. B<<auso It thty aro purchasing food Iltms. This Is qutsUonablt as to Whtthor your mtrchants art roally gttUng tht btnttil or all thOSt cars that aro parking thtro. n I' 0 b e ,\ I '10 paRo 19 Gall BalduSI Markoting D1roctor or Old Cap. Conwr. In SQmo rosoJrch that ~ had dont a couplt or yom ogo IndlC4l.td that although ~ han poopl. Who aroln tho mall rroquonUy. Moro SQ than other malls our sl%o. The averago purchasos on S 10 ~r visit Whoro most malls Who dtpond upon base customors Who aro coming In and making purchasos for tho family hm a minimum or HO.S50 avorage per purchase. So that Is one of tho things Ulat we constanUy have to fight Although ~ have tho tratrlc fr~uenUy In tht mall, their purchasos are not that high. So we havoto try to draw on a dltforont customtr base Which Is dlttlcult It tho customm we arelrylng to draw perceive thm Is a parking problem. Larsonl That Is parUy a function or What storts you have In tho mall, too, Isn't It Thoro aro storos that appoalto a dlttoront customer cliental that are trying to draw the clUZtns or 10Wll City Who have children and Who are doing Shopping for tholr family down and Whon ~ got comments from thoso pooplo and rind out that thty aro going to Wostdale and Undaloln Codar Rids and rind out that tho rtason that thoy art not coming to us Is bocause thoy percolvo that the parking problom Is too big of a burdon to bart. Then that Is the problem that we have with the merchants. Yts, we do havo salos rrom the students but wo would also IIkoto bo able to appeal to the resldonts or Iowa City. Courtney lit Is all or thoso S 1.50 trurtJts that bring down tho aVtrago salts. John GrossI My wife and I own a buslntsS In downtown Iowa City. I would like to first ask OVtryont Who gets a haircut In Iowa City to ploase raise their hand. Okay. That Is very Important Wo support our hair poople. Just a row brltf commonts and then I would lIkoto commont on the thought about moving all or tho permit parkors from tho ramps down to tho Chauncoy Swan Plaza. First of all If wo do move tho studtnts to perlphtrallots and possibly bus them right to tholr classrooms only 50~ or the downtown buslntssts will rail. That might bo too high of a price to ay. Larsonl Think that would bo too high a cost to pay. GrossI Yes. It might be too high a cost to pay. Ir thoy walk rrom class, my buslntsS Is sort or on that roulo. Larsonl But tho other bustnosses would havo plenty or parking. Tht othtr 50~ that strvlcod. GrossI It poople Who comt just to park. As wo havo raised the ralts to pay ror additional financing or tho Chauncey Swan lot As ~ gtt closer to n IOb~1 .1 I -10 pag.20 50 conts you Will ~ stud~nts and rocully mOVll back In to Unlv. parking systom.. Right now thm sa 10 c~nt disparity bot~...n our sysltm and tholrs. W. Will soo a movomont back as It Is only a nlck.1 ditt.ronco Il may bo worth tho conv.nlonco. 1>.110 "olUng has workod many y.ars In stralghtonlng out th. probloms In the alloy. Tratrlc In tho alloy. Th.r~ ....>tr. probably many opportunlUts for him to WIlsh his hands or that probl.m and ht didn't HIS perStvoranc~ Is admlrabl~, I>.1lt. I want to thank you. In splto or that ho~vor It Is dltrlcul~ and this Is my $Orlous poln~ difficult to $Orvlco many buslntsStS from tho allty. W~ find that we havt orton two dellvvry v.hlc1os In a parking ramp and ~ or. bilck and forth many Umts a day ~ art moving merchandlst In and oul It would bo a roal strlous burd.n to hav.to do that from th. Chauncoy Swan Pia%.). That would bo almost a two block walk Whereas It Is much moro ~nvlnl.nt now. As rar as moving th. parkors up a Itvolor moroln tho Dubuqu. Strtot ramp, I don't Sto that as a problom. Tht third lml Stoms Ilk. wt art r~ally way up th.r~ but thrto Is rtally two and two Is on~ and th~ ba$Omtnl I don't know,ltls dittlcultto rollow. I think Jot Is fixing that probltm also. Moving th~ permit parkors up In th. Dubuqu. Sl ramp wouldn't bo a problom for us.Movlng us down to th~ Chaunc.y Swan Pia%.) would be a v.ry sorlous dittlculty for us and I would Ilkt you to think about thal Larsonl JOhn, J.rr m.nUoned In th. discussion last night that h. didn't ftol that price olthor In tho ramps or at th. mtltrs was as big as conc~rn as availability for tho morchants. Dots that Stom to bt What you ar~ ocholng. GrossI I think so. W. do Park and Shop. And I am going to stnd Anna a coupon for parking. I don't think that Is real sorlous. I think that Whtn ~ look at th. Wholo sysltm and Chauncty Swan would c.rtalnly havt som.lnc.nUvo prlcts I would .xptCt ror permit parkors. W~ mIght Sto somo mov~ down thort VOlunlJnly and some move out or Old Cap. Larsonl You aro talking about $27 por month VS. $50 to go rrom Clinton to Chauncty Swan. Big InctnUn. GrossI Lots of folks would mov.. Lots or rolks would bt happy to mm down thoro. Larsonl Thank you. GrossI You art ~Icom.. ...........- -r-- ... n IObLI .1 , -10 pagt21 tp1!.':.(., Sandra ~/I repr~nt OM or tho major dopartment storos In Old Cap. Mall. Old Cap. Mall has already atymlod In it's growth a long With my storo. I am trying to got a remodel and posslblo expansion b<<auso I havo outgrown my store. I can't convince my corpora~ peoploto put $2.3 million dollars In my storo With nat salts growth. I tis not Within their bost Inltrtsls to rtlnvtst monoy. With sales growth tax revtnuos como up and so dOts employmont Right now I can ~II you that I camo from the Wtstdalo market Iowa City and Coralville. rtsldenls are up everyday shopping. lIundrtds and thouS.lnds of chocks have passoo through my store up In tht Wosldale marktt So ~ are alrtady losing thom. The Old Cap. mall as a cenltr has stymied In growth. So we havo alroady reached that plaooau. And I don't want to ~ tho downtown aroa start to go down hill Which Will happen Ir the parking continuts. But morolmportanUy I can't convlnco my company ropr~ntativts to put the remodel dollars In to my storo btcauso of this. Wo neOO to address It quickly so that we can got somtthlng going again. B<<auso It really has slo~ down tremtndously In the last 2. 3 years. Charllo Rupperl/ WolI most of you know who I am. You think that parking Is bad now. I am one or thoso old Umers around. Use to only way you could go Is around tho main block and you would double park and thoy trltd parallel parking and thoy havo tried conltr parking. Thoy have tried every other thing. It got so bad one night that When thty ~re goIng around thty got jammed up and th~ in the cornor that wanted to walk the ptdostrlan.well one of the rellows'lt was a farmers car parked right around tho corner Whoro you couldn't gtt on tho cross walk. So one of tho follows opentd tho back door. It was a rarmor and his Wirol gUtsS In tho car. A big Buick. 000 guy walkod through. Four and flvo went through and opened tho door on one sldt and ~nt through the back or tho car there and made nOthIng or It WolI any WIly, We have a btauUrul park out htre. You really onjoy It laltly. lIow nice It Is. Of courso I can romtmbtr too and any old Umer around htre can remtmoor throo dlrtertnt brldgts down htre over across and tho trains ~nt undor tht 000 and thty put a now onoln. Maybt In tho 305 In and along thtre. Now we havo got anothtr one that Is sUII up. It is a ooautirul brldgo. I think that It has ooon too qultt htro. I wont to a mooUng that got dull In horo OM night and I tort to anothtr mOOUng. They had ooon Wl'angllng about somothlng for about oh an hour or so and couldn't make any doclslon. I hadn't rIIOb~, .\ i -10 page 22 bton thero vory orten bull come In and I u~t thom a IItUo bit Somobody says SOmtthlng about It and I said well that was tht purpow of coming In. Thoy got to dlS(usstng for about two mtnutts and thoy had tho Wholo thing sotUod unanimously. ~. WolIl think What you n.oo Is a fow wild Idm thro\t,\\(\ out I havon't hoard anything that was vtry oxtreme or anything, I don't havt any, too. You got out Mr. a bunch or scrub trffi and hair btauUlul Ralston Crttk. And you got a strHt Why don't you build out om Wldt enough on this park a IlLU. bit OVor tho strHt and Itt the ~ple out undorneath. Go lwo or thrtt ramps and you have two blocks and Whon you gtt that fillod With two or throo storl", rollow th. crook on down or maybt you hm to go the othor way. I think that Whtn you get this park out horo. Eventually that Is going to bt tht dtmlSt or th. park. You can't have trOts and parking and eVtrythlng elSt out thert. It won't work. Maybt you don't know It but It won't Tim. Will tell. It won't be thUt. A lot or ~pletalk about park and o~n spaCt. When you want to como along and rillll up With caN Stmalstorl" high. It's rldtcults. 111 sign In Mro beroro I say somtthlng I shouldn't 111 tell you I'm going to c1tan up an area a llLU. bit too. Thor. Is four or you htre up for .Ioction and I lib to treat tVtrybody all right Bull have docldod that I won't have any signs ov.r my corner this year for various reasons that are only know to m.. So now you know that Horow/ Good for you Charlie. Htlplng tho envlronmont Ruppert/I hope you und&r5tand...1 wouldn'l mn bt ablo to mow....! just as wtllltt you know.... I got an tducaUon on that cable Whtn Il star~ htre you know. Should Iltll them a IItUo about that.. Atkins/I am the only one that has courage to say no, don't ltll them Charll.... Ruppert/I was looking at some troos for a long Ume and I kind of Uke thtm and the cable company come up. It wasn'l tho cablo company It was one or their contractors that como along and thoy say do you own thoso trotS or dOts the city own them. Thty want to cut a thirty Inch hole or a thlrly foot through thos. trtts thoro to Wind th.lr cablo. I won't tell you how It wound up that I came down h.re but I got Irritated afltr a While. They askod m. about four Umts. I said don't do anything unUl1 com. down and sot th. manager. Wtll, the manager wasn't In. Dalt was thtr.. It wasn't long that I found out that somebody had given them the right to go lust about whtrever n lOb b ,I , -10 page H they wanted to or do What they wanted to. I didn't ttnd that all out rrom you but you Wtro thero. That's all. McDI Thank you. Rupportl I was going to roll you. What Ilntondod to toll you was how nlco this Hwy -lis coming out there rrom Old Dubuquo Road. lIow slick and all how thty como down tho way thoy do. this and that. Alii Mar about Is Hwy-' Wtst. this and that you know. It cost a IIWo more for IIwy , I Wtst. But only about S 10,000. 605 lor oneand 610 ror the other one. McDI Thank you, Charlie. Is there anyont 01$0 Who would like to make any moro comments on the parking Issue. Wo thank you ror your obSOrvaUons, your comments. As I sta~ Whon ~ slJrtOO out ~ wantOO to hOld this sosslon first bororo we mttt next Wttk to go over tho ma~rlal that has bttn pr~ntOO to us and go over some moro or helssuos that arelnvolvtd In It. I know It Is a concern to all or us. It Is a conctrn to all of us as ~II as to all of you b<<auso It Is one 01 those Issuts. And I do agrH with the.probably with What Jay said that In 1962 the council was wresUlng. Thero hasn't bton a council that I am aware or that has not wrosUod with this particular type or problem. Wo did roll Jtrr Vtry early on a few Wttks ago that ht could solvo this problom that we would put a bronze statult or him In tho plaza. SO lar, ho said that Is a groat Incentlvo but hO Is still working on It. Hopefully we will be able to come to some conclusions shOrUy. We will bt mooting on this again Inrormally, as I said, next Monday mnlng and we will go rrom thert at that Umi. Thank you. n lOb .-, Agonda Rogulor Council Moollng OClobor " 1991 Pogo 8 ,I i ITEM NO. 11 . Roc.....J /P:/() PUBLIC HEARINO ON PLANS,SPECIFICATlONS, FORM OF CONTRACT AND COST ESTIMATE FOR AN EQUIPMENT SHELTER FOR TRUNKED RADIO PROJECT. Commanl: ThIs projecllnvolvOl 0 10x24 fOOl .qulpmonl sholler 10 houl' lho IlWIkod rodlo slatlon IYllom bo.. Ilotlon(11 ond lIIoclltod oqulpmonl, Tho lpeclllcotlono .ncomPOII lho labor, oqulpm.nl, mOlorlals ond dallvary for 0 profobrlcolod flborglou oqulpmonl sholler, Tho sholler comu oqulpped with ol.ctrlcal, hOlling, cooling, lira IUpprOlllon, 10curllV IYllom, ond o..poralo gonorolOl room, Tho Ilall oltlmalo fOllhllltrucluII II '38,000. ACllon: (\p "'"-u tlff~I" ...R... ITEM NO. 12 . _~,- "5" CONSIDER RESOLUTION APPROVlNO PLANS,8PECIFICATIONS,FORM OF CONTRACT AND COST ESTIMATE FOR THE EQUIPMENT SHELTER FOR TRUNKED RADIO PROJECT. Commonl: Soo procodlng 110m, ACllon: ~/~ I ~.....J ~ ITEM NO. 13. ANNOUNCEMENTS OF VACANCIES. 0, Hlltorlc Prmrvatlon Commllslon . Ono vaconcv for 0 rapro. sonlallvo ollho Summll Straal Dlllrlcl fOl on unoxplrad lerm ondlng March 29, 199i~D~~rellgnOd,~ b, Boerd of Adjullmanl . Ono voconcv for a flvo'voar lerm ondlng Jonuerv " 1997. IJolI Borla'olerm ondl,1 c, Parks and Rocroollon Commllllon . Two vaconclol fOl four. VOOl lerml ondlng Jonuorv 1, 1998, lTerml of WIlliam Slalnbroch ond Daryl HonrV ond,1 d, Human Rlghlo Commission. Thrao voconclaa for throo.voar lormo ondlng Januarv " 1995, lTerml of JOIon Chon, Frod Mimi ond Torrv Powoll ond,l Tholo oppolnlmontl will bo mado Ollho Novombor 12, 1991, mooting of tho Cltv Council. n IObEI City of Iowa City MEMORANDUM )1 I DATE: Slpttnber 30, 1991 TO: Hayor, City Council, Clnarll PubUc FROM: City C"rk R E: Addition. To Conunt CalandAr 4. c. (7) Contldar a DOtlon approvlnl a C.... "c" Liquor Llcan.e for nlll Blccan dbl Chlnl Pllaea, 21 Stur~1I Corner Dr. (R.nlVll) - --- 13.1. III.torlc PlOllrvlt Ion Cornl..lon . ane vlclncy for I rapr..entat Iva of the Summit Stre.t DI.trlct for In unaxplred terl .ndln, Mlrch 29, 1992. (D.vld Jep.an re.llnad), end Ona unaxplrad t.rD .ndlnR MIY 29, 1993. (Jlne. Och. re.llnad.) 4. d.(I) Con.ldar I lOtion to Ipprova dl.bur.ement. In tha elOunt of $4,430,395.27 for the period of AUlu.t I throuRh AUBu.t 31, 1991 I' rocommended by tha Flnlnca Director .ubJect to ludlt. lkrw Il'$b.~, 4/101'11\ S~ n lOb q Agond. Ragular Council MOIling OClobor 1, 1991 Plgoll ,I I ITEM NO. 14 . CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS, ~(t:i t(T 1-,( 0, ConsIdOl In oppolntmonllo lho AlrpOlI Cornmllalon 101 on unexplrod 101m ondlng Mlrch " 1998, IAnlonl. Homllton lOalgnod,1 Action: w~ 1/UluJ It~1 1l\lfA-u ~. b. ConsldOl oppolntmonlS 10 tho Rlvorfronl ond NaMol Are.. Cornmlsalon: III A IOprOlonlallvo 01 Tho UnlvOIallV of low. 10 fiJIan unexpired 101m ondlng Doc amber I, 1993, IAllon Suoh IOllgnod,) ACllon: ~ I';.d~b-l,j W k..~ Atv &,'".J. 121 A thrOl.yoor 101m ondlng Docambor " 1994, ~ RaW. MJ... III~o.1 . ACllon: t &.,." S,lU<<,,,.,) 13~ ~.~ Shu.r ITEM NO. 111. CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION. ~LJ ItdJ \ n I 0 '-1 0 I ; j , I f I I I I i I I i "I) pago I McDI City counclllnrormaUon, Kubby II had two it~ms, There WIlS a mention In tho Parks and R~. Comm. mlnutts that tho Iowa CIty Boys B3sobaJI Assoc. Will now allow girls to parUclpatt It thty so chOOSt and would prtror that om tho girls sortball program. I think Ulat Is groat to Itt girls havo that cholco or programs to be In. Socondly, I WIln~ PfOploto noUce tho mural of tho front or First Hal Bank that Is taking placo ovor Umo. I saw this big txpanslvo surfaco arta to paint on. I though~ gosh, I am going to approach the bank to sot It they would let me put somo of my dtsfgn work up thtro and thtn thoUght that It would be botltr to havo a lot of kids InvOlvtd. It was kInd or parallol thinking With What happened at tht University., and connoctM With a womon at tho University Who Is doing mural work With kids and the bank WIlS vtry gentrous In supplying paint and suppUts Cor tho kids. And last wttktnd thty completM kind of tho aquaUcs StCUon In tho front of tho ~mporary podtStrlan walkway In front of the bank, Over the noxt couplo or WtOkonds you WlU sot It progr~. Thoy aro doing a rtatly groat job. IUs kInd of Ukt you art oxporltnclng dltftrontocosysltms &I you walk through thoro. Hov II would 111'.0 to announco tho fact that thoro Will be an tnorgy conwrvaUon conforonct at the Unlv, or Iowa, Ocll5 and 16. And anyono Who Is InltrestM In atltndlng can got InformaUon from the Conftr.nc. Ctnltr or rrom th. Lartw Law Otrlct, ....--_._~ -~... ,\ i n I 0 '-1 . I I' Agondo Roguler Council MOOllng Octobor " 1991 Pogo 10 ITEM NO. 18. REPORT ON ITEMS FROM THE CITY MANAOER AND CITY ATTORNEY. O. CIIV MalllgOl. ~,,/ ?JtAJ b, CIIV AIIOInov, - f).- , i I I ITEM NO. 17 . -~~ CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZINO THE MAYOR TO SION AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST A SUBORDINATION AOREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF IOWA CITY AND IOWA STATE BANK AND TRUST COMPANY FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4311 OAKLAND AVE. Commont: Tho CllV'o Houllng RahobllllOtlon P1ogrom wal conlaclad bv tho lowo Stoto Bonk ond Trull Componv roquosllng lhel Iho Cltv opptovo 0 .ubordlnotlon ograomonl fOl Iho owner 01 tho ptOpellV locolad 01 4311 Oakland Avonuo, In Docomber, 19B9, the own" IOcolvod .3,000 In tho form of 0 1110 lion through tho CllV'o Emorgancv Rapolr P1ogrom, Tho lowo Slato Bank and Trull ComponV wllllOflnonco Iha ownor'o oxllllng contrecl ond would like 10 havo Iho filii mOllgago pOlltlon on tho propOIIV In lho omounl 01 .49.000, Thls subOtdlnat/on ogroomonl will olloblllh tho CItV" lion In 0 aocend lion poaltlon which was 0110 Iho CItV'o formor poslllon, Tho ptOPOIIV w.. IOconllV opprol.od 01.81,000, Action: /h,ei / 1/11/ I lHtt1 % n I 0 '-1 e ,I I -100 pagt I McDI City Managtr. AU:lnsl Yts, lust two quick Items ror council InrormaUon. You Will rtcall the othor day tho roderal government announcod that 11.6 million grant for tho purchast or the t~nty units for public housing, WolI our D.lpt of II.J.S" In parUcular, tht Assls~ 1I0uslng Program, also rocelvtd vorbal noUllcaUon rrom tho rtdtral govornmont that ~ Will rocelvt an addlUonal t~nty cerUtl~tts In the amount or 1120,000 ptr year for IIvo yoar commitment We had applltd Cor t~nty two. We did very woll. And wo also Will receive a 126,000 drug tducaUon grant Whereby we Will hm a contract With the Broadway Nolghborhood Cenltr, And It Is to addrtss drug oducaUon for our younger dUZens, 3.13, In any or our public housing programs. It Is an opUonal program. So thr.. very nlco programs In a vory short Umo. McDI Dots the grant for the drug tducaUon program, doos that come through IIUD also. AU:lnsl Yos. The 126,000 grant Horow/ Do we havt a reloast on tha~ Stove. AU:lns/Thls lust come In today by teltphone. Horow/I hm had the honor of slWng In the healthy pooplo Year 2000 In Johnson County for the stato. We art specifically dealing With alcohol. The htalth problems In Johnson County and drug substanco abust btlng one or thom. The mooUng Is Thursday, I would really appreclalt If I could gtt a roloast for that AU:lnsl SUre, I Will get you something on It That's all. -- --T"""" - n I 0 '-I ~I .\ Agond. Rogulor Council MooUng OClober I, 1991 Pogo 11 ITEM NO, 18. _?I.JS" CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING A FEE FOR THE PROCESS. ING OF HOUSING REHABILITATION LOAN SUBORDINATION AGREE. MENT8, Commanl: Loons ond 1I0nloro ptovldod 10 lowo Clly roaldontllo olalll lhom In houalng rohob, Our rehob loaM/an Iyplcolly lekOl 0 IIcond lion pollllon, Whon Ox/lUng filii mOllglgOl or 'Ind .0111 cenlrOCII oro roflnoncod, tho landing Inllllullon will mako 0 roquIII INI lho Clly .ubOldlnole 10 Ihe now 11111 morlglgo on lho ptoporly, Tho Clly h.. beon illuming tho odmln/llrollvo COllin ptocOlllng IhOlo requOIII, Howover, alncolho Clly'lacllon In .ubordlnellng and tho rollnenclng II of fllllnclll benoflllO tho 'ander/owner, 11/1 approprlolO IholO plymonl of .150 10 Iho Clly bo modo .. consldorOllon for odmln/ltroUvo oxponsolln tho .ubOld/nellon 101M/on. fI,~ II'~ I Acllon: 11 .'14t~ % , ITEM NO. 19 . -'Ii. ''-65 CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH VON BRIESEN' PURTELL,S,C, DY STEVEN D. RYNECKI, FOR LABOR NEGOTIATION SERVICES. ITEM NO, 20 . _'/1- J!lJ, Commanl: ThlIII 0 Iwo-yaar agroomOnl, beginning OClober 1, 1991, lor Iho nogolllllon of collocllvo blrgaln/ng ogroomonl. and othorllbor roloUonl consulUng 10rvlcOI, MI. Rvnockl hol porformod thoso IIrvlcOl for Iho C/IY .Inco 1980, A copy of Iho Agroomonl and ollachod Foe Schodula Illncludad In Councll'o ogando pockOI, ACllon: ~o I/Jw, ( .M.~ it",,; IJ.,~ % CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE 9UDGETED POSITIONS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE PAY PLAN, Acllon: Commanl: Tho rosolullon rollocll 0 chango In Iho IlruCluro of tho Pollco Doporlmonl .. roquOllod by Iho Chlof 01 Pollco, Tho organllOUOn OIloblllhao claar IInol 01 outhorlly ond rosponllblllllOl within tho Pollco Doporlmonl, Tho organlzoUon ollmlnolOltho Dopuly Chlol of Pollco poslUon and two Sorgo ani pOllllonl, bUI oddo four Lloulononl pOIIUonl, Ctxur / .4tlt.6 / Jh rrlfJ e&tJ' ~ ~Mf 'NI n I 0 '-1 LI ,\ I -19 pago I McOI Movtd by Ilorow. HCondod by Ambr.to adopt th~ rmluUon, Discussion. 1I0row/1 would like to say tMt this parUcular person certainly has a way about him or asslsUng mo In undorstandlng What tho negotiations moan and how they move and along with Dalo. It really Is a vtry tducating proem. I think that this Is a good appolnlrnonl Kubby / Dalo, Whon It Is a oft year and ~ don't have a nogoUation that lJkos placo, What aro some or tho wrvlcts that are provided. lIolllngl We hm only had on. oU yoar In tho last twelvo that ~ didn't han somo nogoUaUon. Tho only other 60rvlm that we'vo gotltn from Stove and from Yon Brltstn and Purltll ovor tho yoars thore has bttn a grltvanco arbltraUon. Thore art a numbtr or othor smlcos Ilsrod In tho contract but most or th~ aro provldtd In house and primarily through our legal staU. Kubby /It wo do a roclassltlcaUon .Whon ~ do It would thoy bo Involvtd. lIolllngl No, Kubby /It would bt a 60paralt porson. Holllngl Rlghl Burnsldt/I would add that Unda Gentry montionod to moln rovltwor this malltr that sho, were sho Mr., would have calltd to you allonUon that a numbtr or tho wrvlcts Ils~ In that contract aro provldtd by your In house staU. That Is no renocUon at all on tho rlno work Mr. Rynockl has dono ovor the yoars. Sho would, I think, mako that clarUlcaUon. lIolllngl Wo would not suggost changing thal Thoro Is no rtason te pay a consultant to do What wo can do. McD/ Any othor dIscussion. Roll call- Tho rosoluUon Is adoptod. n I 0 '-1 ~, ,\ f -20 pagt I McDI Movod by Courtney, $<<ondod by Ambr to adopt tht rosolutJon, Discussion. Kubby II have a ftw commtnts. I havt rtally botn struggling With this over tht last coupl. of days. I havo tal~td With RJ. a bunch or Umos and I havo tal~td With somo pollCt oUlcors and som. poopl. Who don't really havo any dlroct connections. And, as an army bra~ I rtally undorstand the chain of command and tho nm ror that Whtthor I dlsagroo With that or not I undtrstand the logic of It Btlng a membtr of the housing coop I really undorsland the nm to doUntatt rtsponslblUUts to ma~e sure things art covor~. I really support movtS to both of th050 goals but I rtally fool uncomfortablt about tho Umlng of U1ls mn though thtrt Is a roason for tht timing of It I r"l Ilk. I roally nm to walt for the budget proctss to do major rtstructurlng like this that could havt pottnUal tlnanclng Impact on tht pollco dept's budget In tho ruturo. By having this now poslUon It SHms that-I don't know What tht t1nanclallmpacts are and I havo a lot of quosUons that I don't think have boon ans~rtd fully. I want to look at the pollco dtptln Whole and other roquosls are going to be madt from the pollct dtpt And would prortr to walt for tho rogular budg.t proctss. I fool uncomfortablo tnough that I can't put my name down for supporting this at this Umo. Horow/l undorstand What you aro tal~lng abou~ Kartn, But I for one would not want U1at poslUon and tho doslro ror rtOrganlzaUon to romaln vacant unUI Wt solve this budget That would be six months Without the Chltr oolng abloto carry out his dept as he wants to. Kubby I Wo curronUy havo WIltch commandm that watchts, So, It would be six months of staying In this poslUon Whore things aro funcUonlng all right Nov I Tho only probltm would be that the Chlof may not 00 able to do this. It ho Wtrolll, Who would take over. Thm Isn't that person Who Is that doputy, Kubby I WolI, thoro Is that Captain and In tho now structure It would bt a Caplaln Who would lake plact or tht Chi of. That would 00 tht noxt sttp down, Nov I Who would ta~e that job If we don't ( can't hear) Kubby lit would havoto be on. of the Captains. Thoy art tho noxt hlghost ranking orrtcer. I{orowl Karon, I wouldn't want to (mo.frankly,1 don't want to micro. manago hIs job. Butl wouldn't want to lem him Without oolng ablo to do What he wants to do for six months. That Is wllY ~ hlroo him. n I 0 '-1 b 11 -20 page 2 Kubby I At the samo Ume It's the end rtsultld our rosponslblllty and I netd to mako SUet I understand all or tho things that are going to como up financially for the police dopl Wo have already approvtd somothlng tho ym It was rnlly Imporbnt and a good lhlngto do but it 18 going to be just part or tho budgot ror a continuing program. But tho purso strings ~re somowhOro olso and now thoy art going to be With us and I want to mako surf that ~ arolooklng at all of thoso Issuts togothor, MeDII think tho Chlor has made 8 thorough evaluaUon btrore he prtsonltd this rtallgnmtnt and rtstructurlng to us. I think With tho InrormaUon that has boon provldtd to us that I think th3tlt makos a lot of sonso. I find It vory 8ccoplJblo. Courtnoy II approclalt your conslstoncy on It too Kartn. I don't romombtr you supporUng anything that the polleo has wanltd to do In your ltnuro. McDI Any othor discussion. Roll call. The rosoluUon Is adopltd. I I I . , n I 0 '-1 '-1 Agonda RogulOl Council Moollng OClober " 1991 Pogo 12 ,\ t ITEM NO. 21 . CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 10.31 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF IOWA CITY ESTABLISHING THE BOUNDARIES OF THE VOTING PRECINCTS IN IOWA CITY. !Rill conald.rot!onl Commonl: Tho now vOllng ploclnclond clly council dlllrlcl boundlrlol IOnoctlng population changes 01 tho 1990 Conlul have bean drown up ond have boon revlowad by lho public olon Inlormol moollng ond by lho Johnlon Counly Commlll/onor of Eloctlono. Tho Council mUllodoPlon OIdlnonco rovlalng lho boundOllo. ond Iubmlllho now boundarlOI 10 tho Socrelarv of Sloto by Novombor I I, 1991. Tho now vOllng ploclncl Ind City Council dlllrlCI boundarlal will go Into olfocl on Novomber I I, 1991. ACllon: h,,;~) /J,JI~ IU ~ II/.IJ ~ I' ~ 1.V xh. 1&,0 I.4ttJ ~ ITEM NO. 22. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 2.17 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF IOWA CITY ESTABLISHING THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS IN IOWA CITY. !Rill conaldorollonl Commont: Sao p/ocodlng llam, AI 0 relull of tho rep/oclncllng p/ocall ond lho renumbering 01 0 ploclncl. voting preclncl number 7 II now localad In tho goographlc area fOl Clly Council Dlllrlcl A: Ihorefore, SOCllon 2.17 of Iho Codo 01 OrdlnonCOl mUll be amondod by mOving P10clncl 7 from Council DlllrlCI C 10 Council Dlllrlcl A, Action: nl,,;.JI~~(O Mt.tI//J ~ '~ ITEM NO. 23 . CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER SEVEN 171 ENTITLED ANIMALS AND FOWLS BY ADDING DOGS TRAINED TO ASSIST THE HEARING IMPAIRED TO THE EXCEPTIONS SECTION FOR DOG LICENSES. (mond conaldorollonl Cornmonl: Tho faclthollho Clly Ordlnonco oxomplO loolng oyo dogl from IIconllng ,0qulromOnll bUl nOl dogllrolnod 10 ossllllho hoarlng Impaired wu polnlad OUI by 0 clllzon 01 Iowa City. Tho amondmanl addl dogl lrolnod 10 aulll hoarlng Impaired 10 Iho oxcopllonl locllon 01 ChoPlor Sovan m. ACllon: k ~) &a. /'~rI-(/ IN( II- JOuJrtt ~1JN ~..,( & If 11 ""'\ /#'~ ~ ITEM NO. 24. ~D~NTf' ..../ltr.& ~ ' ~/~::."f6"fll1. aae~ n I 0 '-1 EI .1 1 -21 pago I McDI Moved by Hov, HCOndtd by Ambr to give tht ordinance (Irst consldaraUon. Discussion. Horow/l havo to go on rocord. I am sorry your honor but on this one I roally do. Wo can joko about this but there Is a corner or -adjacent to Proclncll4. In othor words, taSt of DoForost Which will bo In a dUtoront prtclncl Thal parUcular strttl has parUdpa~ In the nolghborhood or Kirkwood and I hm to go on record as saying I wish that It ~reln Predncll4 Whore the rtslof Its friend s are. I know thalll sounds ridiculous bull truly really mean Il I think Il was a crazy dtslgn. Kubby I Thoso poople can still particlpalt In the nolghborhood. Horow/Of courso thoy can. Bulll moans somothlngto go to your Proclnct and wt your nolghbor, You loko about thom. You lJlk aboul What Is going on. Thoy can't do thal Il sounds so stupId bull am saying Il I roally mean this. 111 volt ror Il bull wanlll on record. Courtney II would lusl bo more than happy to It back Into your dlstrlcl It that Is What tvtryone wants to do. Horow/l don't think we can. We have gono too far, Ilusl wanl to go on record.., McDI Any other discussion. Roll call. Flrsl conslderaUon Is approved. n I 0 '-1 q ,\ I -2~ pago I McD/ls this thumtnded? Karr I Tho amendtd version Is In front 01 you this mnlng. McD/Okay. It Is tholtxt. We can go ahtad Wlthsocond consldoraUon. Karr I The tiUo changts, Mr. Mayor,lt thoro Is In~rtst to do It. Tht tiUe of the rovlSfd ordlnanco Will diffor rrom tho tiUe on tho agonda It council Is Incllntd to go With tho rtvl~ vorslon. Kubby I Yoah, ~ should chango tho tiUe. McD/Okay. Burnsldol Tho original tiUe earrlod that language referring to sptclflcally to dogs and to the hoarlng Impalrtd and visually Impalrod.Whlch languago has boon amondod In tho now form. So the tiUo was thon amendtd to conrorm to the ~xt. McDI So do ~ havo to takNo since this has alrtady boon glvon first consldtration, dOts this amendment havo 0 bo vo~ on. Karr II would suggtst starting back and giving It rlrst consldoration. It council Is so Incllntd and wants to caleh up, you cortalnly can glvo It first and socond this tvenlng. McDI COuncil did agr... I undtrstand that you wanttd the amendments so that It Is a IIWe mort encompassing to cover all of tht thIngs that ~ talktd about. Kubby II roally approclalt Bill bringing that up. McDI Do we have to tako any typo or action to got rid or tho first consldoration approval that we gave the rormer ono, Kerr II bollm, It you aro so Incllntd and It the city attornoy would agr.., that we could lust road Into the rocord tho now titio as amondtd and It would thorefore kill the original one. It that Is okay. Burnsldt/l boUm that Is corrocl McDI -231s an ordInance (roads ordinance) That Is the amondtd ordlnanco. Karr I So Incllnod to glvo two readIngs tonIght? Or do you lust want to do one. McDI We Will give It two. Karr Waive tho rlrst and glvolt socond. McDI Movod by Courtney, socondod by Ambr that first conslderaUon be walvtd and tho ordlnanco bt glvtn socond consldtraUon at this Umo. Discussion, Roll call. (Everyono votts yos,) Movod by Courtnoy, socondod by Ambr to glvo the ordlnanco socond consldoration. Discussion. , I I ; I I , , I , I I I , I , I n I 0 EI 0 l' '2l page 2 , i , , i i I I , , I E j , , , I I i , McDI Roll cell. s.cond consldtraUon Is approvtd. .:-'" n I 0 EI 'I 11 I I '24 Prior to Adjournment Kubby I Btforo we move to adjourn I really take excepUon to somothlng Darrell said about mo not supporting the pollco depL Btcauso thtre are many things that I havo supported that havo boon new programs and I rool IIko It bo mato s~~monts lito that you sbould bact It up and loot In tho rocord. Courtney II can point out that thoro are DARB. ortlcor, I can point oul tho oxpanslon to the POllco depL and now tho roorganlZaUon. Kubby I Not the expansion of the pollco depL of the communication sysltm. You aro erronoous on your vlow point of my volts on thost things. So, you mad. the statement so I fool you should go bact on the rocord. McDI Do I han a motion to adjourn. All thost In favor signify by saying aye. W. aro adjournod. , --, - lOtI I~ City of Iowa City MEMORANDUM ,I . DATE: Septelber 27, 1991 TO: CI~ Council FRaI: City H.lnager RE: Work Sesllon Agendas ond Heetlng Schedule Septl'llber 30. 1991 Monday 6:30 . 8:30 P.H. Councfl Work SessIon. Council Chambars 6:30 P.H. . Revfew zonfng IIl4tters 6:40 P.H. . EnvIronmental Regulotfons . Plannfng and Zoning CommissIon 6:50 P.H. . Downtown parkIng Issues 7:20 P.H. . Expans fon of parkfng meler mu 7:35 P,H. . Afrport Slide Presentatton . Ravfew of currant site 8:00 P.H. . Councfl agenda, CouncIl tfmo, Council committee reports 8:15 P.H. . Consider appofn!lllents to tho Airport COllllllssfon and Rfverfront and Natural Areas Commfsslon October I. 1991 Tuesda~ 7:30 P.H. . Re9ular Councfl Heetlng . Councfl Chambers October 14. 1991 Honda~ 6:30.8:30 P.H. 'Councll Work Sessfon . Council Chambars Agenda pendfng October IS. 1991 Tuesda~ 7:30 P.H. . Regular Councfl Heetfng . Councfl Chambers October 21. 1991 IE!I. 8:00 P.H. 6:00 P .H. . Councfl Work Sessfon . CouncIl Chambers Heetlng wIth Rfce, Wfllfams Assocfates regardfng Cablo TV Refranchlslng/Renewal Process Monda~ PENDING LIST Stonnwater Hanagement Revfew Salos/Sollcltatfon on Cfty Plaza Cfgarotte Ordlnancos Appofntments to Rfverfront and Natural Areas Commfsslon and Board of ElectrIcal Examlnors and Appeals. October IS, 1991 Appointments to Senfor Centor Commfssfon, Board of Appeals and Board of Examfners of Plumbers . October 29, 1991 Appofntments to HIstoric Presorvatfon Commfssfon, Human RIghts Commlssfon, Board of Adjustment and Parks and Rocroatfon Commission. Novombor 12, 1991 r' I I f ~ I ( II 1{~~ ~\ 1 . t ~u; '\'\ , '\'11 . n 10CIO 7;~(. ICCf"1 T1f"IE/T APE FORM FOR 1!J,.",Or.l 'I N'I/ AGENDA TIME Sublect COMMENTS 1 lI.m I lj~2 Kw.. CALl- ~ .~O 2 lI.m2 7,\ \ ..~P((,,', r1uu .n... ~ ?>/ 3 lI.m3 ',v t,^,IU~' \ :') .. ~~- 1f1~,.A., ^ .... " 4 lI.m4 - : II ') I'".., 1:,.,. {I!,. r. '''At' ' LVI , S lI.m15 .~ .f 'PlA'/OII'JI.. . 7"l""'- ~ ~ (llt':> 6 II.m6 ,01 .P......... 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