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Home My WebLink About1991-11-12 Agenda n n rl . I =, - - - - I' IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL \ AGENDA REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF NOVEMBER 12, 1991 7:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CIVIC CENTER 410 EAST WASHINGTON . . , . , -. - -~ n rt n '1 LI - - - "EM NO.1' mMNO.2' "EM NO.3. AtJ.;a/l /J'.~ ~'rr ~ 1111t~ ,'..) :f1 /I "jl.W' Sc,1.111I~;J.v ttltW 1~ ,J jkAIP~ AGENDA IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. NOVEMBER 12, 1091 7:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBERS CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL. MAYOR'S PROCLAMAnONS. Youth Approtlotlon Wook. Novombor 10.18, 1811.., ~d~ ll\'II".llt~ Ill(lr~ b, COfnmIN,lty Rood.ln Ooy . Novombo, 13, 1991. .. c. (l"III,tI ell'''' Ao.lJu'hO' """I:. nltll".;J~, IYII to .,tV CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED ;,'* i':} . OR AMENDED. "illf' . 10 ConIldor opprovol 01 Olllelol CMCU IctJonl 01 tho lpoclol mooting 01 Octobor 29, 1991, Ind tho rogulo, mooting 01 Octobor 29, 1891, II publlthod, lubjoct to cO/roctlono, II rocOfnmondod by tho City Clork, I, b, Mlnutol 01 Boordl ond COfnmlulons, III Boord 01 Adjultmont mooting 01 Octobo, 9,1991. 121 Boord 01 Ubrory Trultool mooting 01 Octobor 24, 1991. 131 Civil Sorvlto COfnmllslon mooting 01 Octobo, 24, 1991. 141 Humon Rlghll COfnmllslon mooting 01 Octobor 28, 1991. ISI MOYOI'I Youlh Employmont Board mOIling 01 Soptom. bor 2S, 1991, 0, pormlt Motlonl ond ROlolutlonl 01 Rocommondod by tho City Clork. III Conlldor 0 motion opprovlng 0 Clm 'C' LIquor License 101 Gloond Roond, lno.. dba Gloond Roond. 830 S, Rlvorsldo Dr, lRonowoll 121 Conlldor 0 motion opprovlng 0 Spoclol crOll 'C' Liquor Llconso lor Pogllol'l Plna Poloco L,T,O" dba Pogllol'l Pluo, 302 E. 6100mlnOlon St, IRonowol1 - ,-- -- .\ I . 0 0 CI . I S Agondo Iowa City City Council Rogulor Council MOIling Novombor 12, 1991 Pogo 2 131 COIIIldor I motion opptovlng 0 Closs oEo Uquot Ucon.o 101 Rondoll'.lntornoUonol, Inc., dbi R.nd.n'l Ponlly, 1851 Lowor MUICIllno Rd. IRonow.1) Conaldor 0 motion approving. Clss. oEolloor PormJt 10/ B,I. EntorprllOl, dbo ExprOIStop, 2545 N. Oodgo St, IRonowl1) 141 d, COIIOIPondonco, III LOllor IrOfn Roboll ond Martha Hullm.n roglldlng tho propolod mO/ltO/lum on now construction In tho RM.I4a Zonol In tho noor louth.ldo nolghbolhood, 121 LOllor IrOfn JOllY L. Eymon roquolllng that Loon Clrclo be ronomod to Goldfinch Clrclo, 131 MomO/ondo IrOfn tho Tro'"o Englnoorlng rogordlng: 101 Porklng prohibition on OoFOIOIt Avonuo 11111 Inlollocllon with Lowo, MUlCotlno Rood. . lbl Porklng prohibition on COIVO' Stroot otltl Intolloctlon with MUlCotlno Avenuo, leI Porklng prohibition on POlOllon Stroot louth 01 Court Stroot, 0, Appllcollons lor City Plozo UIO Pormlll, III Appllcotlon IIOfn John Poul Zuckormon 101 pormlsslon to 101 up 0 toblo on City Ploro on Octobor 31, Novom. bor 1.5, 1991, Irom which 10 dlltrlbuto II10roturo ond ollar croltl lor donotlons to bonollt Big Mountain Support Group, IApprovod lor 011 dotos oxcopt Novombor 2 whon IPOCO WOI olroody rOlolVod,1 (2) Appllcotlon Irom Mlyo Slolon lor permission to lOt up o toblo on City P1ozo on Novambo, 2, 1991, Irom which to d/stributa litoroturo ond ollar croll. lor donotlons, lopprovodl -...._--- ---- - ,...... .... ~ ----.- ,\ I -~ ----..--.-~~----~.. ~......- .......,...._.~-----....--~~--~-..------ . n [t 0 '1 b - Agondo lowo City Clly Council Rogulor Council Moollng Novombor 12, t991 PIgo 3 131 App/lcotlons IrOfn Lolln Amorlcon Humon Rlghtl Advococy Contor to lot up 0 toblo on City PlIII during tho porlodl 01 Octobor 28 Ihrough Novombor 3, 1991, Ind Novombor 4 through 10, 1991, IrOfn which to dlllributo /itorlturo ond ollor croltl 101 ('I <: . .I dOJllllonl, (opproved) ~. -.)1.< ~,(.(Itt;1V --1tJH'< I JJt'lUJ /./,4 t1_'m~ itA'",!? I ~ ~'IJ~JU ~ ITEM NO, 4. END OF CONSENT CALENDAR PLANNINO AND ZONINO MATTERS. I, Publlo hoorlng on In OIdlnonco omondlng tho Zoning Ordl. nonco by OIloblllhlng 0 morotorlum unlll Aptlll, 1992, on now conltlUCtlon lor ptoporty lonod RM.145 000 loco lid within tho boundorles 01 Iho Noor SOUlhsldo Nolghborhood ROdovelopmont PIon. Commont: Tho Clly Council, In conjunction wllh tho PloMlng 000 Zoning Commllslon, hol Inlormllly ogrood to tho con. COplS outllnod In tho NOlr SOUlhsldo Nolghborhood ROdovolopo mont Plln 000 hlghllghlod In I momoroOOum dotod Moy 23, , 1991. Council momboll hlvo 0110 oxprollod, on 0 numbor 01 occoslons, tho nood to chongo tho RM.145 lono to oddross porklng, 10tblCkl, 000 donllty, Slnco dllcusslon Ollho NOli Southsldo ond omondmont 01 tho RM.145 lono bogin, ono pro!oct on South Dubuquo Slroot, which Is Inconslllont with tho plln, hos boon construClod Ind 0 loundotlon pormlllor I proloct on tho comor 01 Pronllsl ond Capllolltroots hOI boon IlIuod, Thll projoct II 0110 Inconllltont Wllh tho daalrod dovolopmont lor thll 1101. An oddlUonal pro!oct moy bo lubmlllod lor 0 building pormll In tho nOlr luturo. Stoll IOcommondlthat 0 morolorlum bo plocod on now conllructlon In this olOa untlltha Zoning Ordlnanco can bo omondod to om body tho concopll 01 lho NOli Southlldo PIon. Complollon olthoso omondmontl can bo accompllshod by April 1 , 1992, IhOlOby pormltllno construcllon In tho 1992 conllrucUon season, This moratorium ordlnonco oppllos only 10 now bUlldlno pormlts lor now construcUon. Anv pormltlssuod prior to Octobor 29, 1991, will conUnuo to bo valid. Action: _ __ ,Atl?j 1l1ll~/ r,{f, /, lit ft'A) ~ e,f,tt:.J~,t~~ ate 4v'~ --..-- - --- T-"-"""- ~ --...- ,\ I n n n . I ,-, - - - City of Iowa City MEMORANDUM ,I I DA TE: !loYo:lbor~, 1991 TO: 114yor. City Council, Conor.ll rubllc FROM: City Cltrk RE: Addition to ConlOnt Cllond4r J.r (I) Conldor rocOMOndltlon ot tllo Mlyor'. Youth F.IIploynont rro~rAll th.t tho bolrd by.l~v. bo rovl.od In tllro. prlDlry ~r'.11 Incro.lod nU2bor or bolrd DOllbor., l'p4rlttnR tho locrot4ry ~nd tro.luror pOlltlon., Ind c~ltto. protocol, Tbl. nAttor .1I0uld bo rororrod to tho Council Rulo. C~lttoo. , . \bt:Tln II,~'~I ~:S?l \"~,, Sl: n rt n '1 FI - - - - .1 ! · 'i~ pl,oI I /.1,0/ I MW d\-;Im 1M p II or-m ~.:Iclo! I, In'>! i) lMl,l ~n,j HI: IN Ci/mrMIIU, I wul,j Ill:... J IMUon/rom Ul... WUMll f..\ J(.:...pl ("rr(Oll(tn'J~II<~ 111)1 W'vt' r<-;{llv""J ')11 UlllIWIl Il's l+in m'~\'~ all.J s~:.jlld~ to a<<'I~,tth'i (OllofSr"n,jvll<v mto Ul(o pUNI, r"c.jld t~y.usslon /.!'jU'ill (3111+5 I M'"" .j(..;I3I~ Uly ph Op-!II Is tMr... anyoM whO \o,'juld 111:01 to addr<oSs tM (oUIICII ('II 1M II~m john Rumm~lhall/ I gum thiS thing's \om\:m3 I'm \:lOd 01 up hm on 3 (01<1 c311, I'm not too I~mlllar WlUI vv\'rythlng that'S t-:~n gOing on I gu<oSs Ilun Md a <oupl, f")rh3pS NSIC qu,suons (Onmnlng this particular acuon You 101\:5 hav... dlY.USS~ wtwi'i-n youls,IW ffiayto? \;'h~t ~m+ olth... ptobl,ms 3r~ I didn't \:now II and 'i/h"n th, ...U<o(lS to ~m... p31U(ulu ~pl& tMt m (umnUy 1""l:lng at UYlng to build a I...w things, I t:no\l' m going to hay, S'im... pr...tty big raml!lcaUOns I thin\: I\'r som, r~plo?llI th, building pr<<...ss to my undmtJndlOg I lust hOp... you'r... t.11:ln& Ul~ things Into (ollsld,raUon I'm not saymg \'IMt ~pl... hm planMd currvnUy ar, IS n~...ssanly nght or wrong, or would bo;o (onslst~nt With tht dlr~Uon all 01 us m trying to g,t put tog+thtr on th+ nm ~uth Sld+ But I thin\: th, F*Oploi that m WIthin th, (urr...nt limits 01 tht :onlllg ordlnanc,s, NY you r\tally shOuld hm tht opportunity to go aMad With th,lr prol(o:ts. I'm not C,M 01 th,m, but III was In Ulylr SIIC~.It'd ~ a p"tty tough bull,t to sWllllow, Kubby / /)j yo)u mvan mn II thvy hmn't (om!) In for a ~rmlt y,)t? II th!)y had plans? RumlMlhart/ 1 don't, thm again on th~ timing of things, looking at It III was Uli IndiVidual and a month ag!) I had \)Ought a ptt<oi 01 pro~rty tor SOIM ~~nslv!) r~al ~st.1t~ With tho? thought th3t may~ WIthIn thv nvll't ym I w~s gOing to b(. dOing somvthlng WIth 1~ Ulat'd ~ 3 dtlllcult bull~t to swallow putUng th, moratorium on I don't \:now wllYr, you draw Ul, IIn~. I guvss you'r,} gomg to ,jUw It WlUI Uli moratorium, but Nov / It Is 3 rvlativ...ly short moratonum Rummolhart/ TMr~ agaln.wllat d,>* It run through to, Aprtl? Wol1, I Wojuld hm to agr~ WIth UI3t and I guvss that \~ould w wloroi UIHI&ht at tM ~Illnlng ~'f tM ~<inS(rlJ(tl~lI $~~$,'n ((If ll(.l(t yvlr I\u$t f~lt I n&t.'11M tv say What I wantM to) say That IS alii ha\1 to say on Ulls ISSU~' McD/ Anyonoi >>15>> wM ,...'Ould ltk~ to addr~s UI1 c'junclI on U,IS It~tfl , I I , 1 ! I I , n [I 0 . I cl - · ~J pJg~ Z ]l/n .:~mf'1 On Ul~ &>"r" 1;/ Dtr~t.;." of UI" (lo)''''l1I'jWl1 Asl<-:llU:,n I WJnl.:-! to bring up a C<'upl~ 01 1\~U\,j I\.gJl\lIng 1M lrlOralNlum I think th3t It IS J B';.;.11,j,a 10 k'~k al any prop.;',,,,,J bUII,jmg en Ui';' nw south M~ P.UI I !fllnk that Ihm m a coup:.;. (If NMr l/ungs IMt n*-1 to tv Uk~n Into c<'nSld.;.r,'Ucn 'NlJ~n ',,'~ 3rl.lookmg at thiS ^ coupt.;. or thi'm t"llng parking W~ hm dls.:UIs<od In th~ DTA and 11','.' (t,Jrnt.:r Ul~ probl'.'rns IMt W'.' h3Vef ....'UI PJI kIng rjO\oJllt,j'<\,'T1 O'l~r 1M last refW yws ~ hav~ had 3 lot or rnuIlJolo'v~1 3pl bUlI.jlng, built on tM sOllth sid'.' and the amount 01 parking that IS r\"lUtrI'<J lor i'ach d....~lImg IS mlu/ll"~nl ror Ul~ nurnlx-r or ~pl\' hVlng lJl~r~ nut hH caU!(od tncrm~.j !la/tlc In parl:lng rampi. on stnH parking and I undmlJnd that thm IS dnotMr very large apt complof:( UI31 IS In Ih.;. plalll right now. A hundrcod unit or som.;.thlng lit.;. that3n,j I know Irvm Vivml yms ago wMn se'm~ rrtvnds or mini' ltv\1oj In 10m\' apts up hm ^ Ullofo? t-:droom apt USUJlly Mid !Iv,! or 51:< p.?<)PI\' Ea':h OM hH a <:Jr Thm IS typically Suppll~j OM PJrklng spac" ~r unll W.;. ar'.' already In a my ught parking sttuaUOn lIghl now W'.' m kind vI oohlnd tM .;.Ight ball Our ramps m lull or nm capaCity Our on sttc~t p,lrtlng is Vllry In3d~ua~ a Ivt of UmoX. I undmwnd that \.'. do hm a coupl~ of plans right now Mvr. thof counCil 10 bUild a di<k on a COUplli of 1M lots I thInk that Wli n(.)oj to Io.)t a IttUo bIt rUlthofl and butld a ramp alltll~ bit more In thli south Sld,;o ar~3 and g~t aM3d of Ule) p,lrklng "unch Ulat ....'0} m In e,~C3USC' If ....~ tutld tho: t~) de<ks that w~ ar'.' tall:ing awut llVW, WMn W'.' llnally lerSo: tho} lot lhJl IS oohlnd th~ old post oftjc~ and th+ 10ttlofSI,Jo} tho} HOliday Inn TMy ar& (lv~ntually gOing to go, Wv3fV gOing to w at alJoul th(l !Jm(l plac'~ Utat w. m right nCow, W~ m going 10 ~ t~ yms dCoWll th+ r03d I lust think thaI Wror., any d\l(\,IOn I. ma~io to allow any lurthior mum unit apt, butldlngs 1.0 Ix- butll The. parking sltuaUon M\\i!$ to ti address~ With tM Units, Whc-:vvr IS dOing tM dmloplng TMy n~ 1.0 prOVide: more) pal king untts ~r Ulllt or g(lt a city bUlldllr .50lno} how worl:lng loglithl'r to tal:1' m(o of It I thlnl: thaI ~ n~\"j 10 t..l1:1' a look at th~ rnulU.lml Unit for parking McDI Thanl: you, 11m ]Wl Gilpin! I am s~aktng on whall of tM DT A Wlll(h I am lIiv pr~lld~nl Wv lound at..~lJIIIIIS ph Oil Thur~d~, ~ v..~ dIdn't a~tually ll~v" Urn\' 1.0 hm an actual board m*ung and pr('$vnt our rli31 thoughts to you but I want 1.0 comv on Mall 01 tho: DTA and a bustMSS ('wn~r In downto.....'llo\\.a City and (oncouragll y.)u to g,\ aMad and vnforco: tillS moratJ:irlurn CofrtJtnly Wef m lor d(ovo:loplll~nt on Ulv nm s.:,uth SI,1io ~--....--.......-.- --~ - ~ -....- .' , ti [I [I 1:1 [I - · 'i3 p3g(' 3 and .....~ ar'~ w<)rkmg v,:ry ,jlllg\.nuy ~1l11l Cjly SlJl/ an,j ~.~ hay...l'l"')f/ ~Ioro: (l)un';lll1lo: IIrst of 0:1 ".,th ~IM (on<o:rns ~n,j W;! ~r... Wrl:lfig rvr solutlOllS Th~ (hamt~r t..;.ard IS alw a.....3r<o 01 ~om... l'f our COnCi-lllS 3flIj m wvrl:lll~ on U\, samy <l!ry.:Uon Whyry as.....,.!r... tor d,'/<-Iojprni'nt, Wi! thin\: that thi' numbo:r oni' lSSUi' boilng thi' F<Jrtlng crunch Ulal ""v alrv3dy ar" ta'~ ,~th and Ntorv (mung a1ars,r problfm rrom thior~, I thin\: Ulat ....'io n*" to lwl: at som... or th~ :vnlng Utat IS In place! and p'jto:llual (hang~s Ula! ale! Ill':orp"ra~j In Ul~ no?ar s.Juth Sid... dmlopmiont $l) I WI>'Jld lust ~n(ourag~ you to matf surf that ""~ don't put tM <art bo?for... tM MrS>? by 8':.lng 3M3,j 3n.1 allOWIng s.JIM d<ovvlopm"nt on th... nm 5(Juth SId,: that may U. tnconstst...nt WIth \v1lat w, mlly vant WIth th./ partmg ISSUio probably boflng thy !lrst pllollty to ICoOl: at along WIth s<'mi' othfr things, That IS r,ally all I \<I3ntiod to SJY this (oYe,nlng Than!:! again ror your lIm... and congratulauons to mryonio McO! Thanl: you, J(oan Is Uli'r, anyono? i'ls~ WM ....~ul,j lI\:v to ad,lms thy councIl on thiS I~m Tom Charlton! I wanll.'<I to Indica to sup~rt ror U:, morali)llum I spot" about SUCh a moratorium mll...r, I bofllm that thiS ts a gm Id,a In t,rms of thy planning prO<*5, I ....~uld 111:, to simply ma\:, a coupl, of commvnts conco?rnlng thl) hlstorte pr,,~rvaUon a$p'(t or thy moratorium whVr, my Int.:rvsts actually Ill) and would hOp' that thy addriosstng of thv Issue- or d./nstty Within thy RM.145 :'jM would and could bot usofd In part to ,lIcourag, prmrnuolI of llIoJivldual structurvs WIthin pia,." And you might consl,j". and Ul~s~ ....~uloJ or courso) I:>f MW conco)pts, might consld~r dmloplng Sl)m~ Individual landmark status Ught ordlnancoiS Which Wl>uld Mlp that pMoirvauon status and In addition With thos.; som& tax IIIcyntiv&s for th" oWllm or th~ propo?rtiios By dOing 5(>. hay, a gm mix or dlllmnt typ'S or stru,tur~s WIthin th~ SOUUI sl\1~ diovoilopmo:'nt zono) Thanl: }'OU M,O! Thanl: you vl:ry much AnyoM -:Is-: Who w,)uld IIl:v to addr~s thy council on this \lo)m, I now d~lar., th~ p.h 'los~ -~ ---.--- -- -- - -..... .1 ! o CI 0 e . I Agondo Iowa City City Council Rogulor Council Moollng Novombor 12, 1991 P,go. b, Action: c, II Cons/dor an ordllllnco omondlng tho Zonlng Ordllllnco by oltobllshlng a mO/atOllum until ApllIl, 1992, on now con. ItlUCtlon 10/ ploperty zOfIOd RM.145 ond locotod within tho boIlndarlol 01 tho Noar 8outhsldo Nolghbolhood Rodovolop. mont Plon. lFirst ConsldoroUonl COfnmont: 800 Itom 0, abovo, Tho Plonnlng and Zonlng COfnmlsslon will consldor thll ordllllnco otlll mooting on Novombo, 7,1991. J}/I/.b I /!t.uJ ~l(J II /./J f v, .~ J'(J 1&1) 77/el) rp Publlo hoarlng on on OIdllllnco nlImlng tho rood locOlod oast cl CorOU101 Motor.: 'Rupport Rood,' Commont: In. lottor dOlod April 16, 1991, M1chool J, WI.dOfn roquOItod thottho City nomo tho rood locatod OOlt 01 Coroulol Motors: 'Ruppert Rood,' PrIO/ to bolng convoyod to tho City 101 tho purpolos 01 0 ItrOOt, tho proporty was ownod by tho Rupport Fomlly lor lovorol YOO'I, With tho dovolopmonl 01 Wilt port Plaza, tho rood WOI Implovod to City Itondardl, Action: ~ D1IV 4f1~dlt.e.. d, Consldor on Ordlnanco naming tho road IOCOlOd 0I1t 01 Corousol Motors: "Rupport Road,' (First Consldorotlon) Commont: Soo Itom c. abovo, Action: //{l1IJ I t!~".d' /61' t'.. 1/ i f I 1/ ..b{J~ i1lrto ~lli~t.... '/1) -- - -- -r- -- n rl rl P P - - - - - .;b p3g\\ I M<:DI M.)vo,ld by AmN. s~:vn,ji...j by H'lfoj\", to ~.jopt IIrst eon!l<1muon OU(USSIOn CourUl+yl Tho.> ~'3y I r<o),j thlllt autolO311cally <,nds on ^F,nl 1st WMtMr '..o'V hav+ our nY'n' pl3ns put t(.g+U\ir Ij,ntryl WMthir thm IS any r+:onlng or any chanS+ at all. YiS Frankltn/Or soon,r If \\'t di'Jtlop an ordlnan" and It IS adopttd by tho t,lly <oon(ll pllor to April 1st thin th~ moratorium \or~old ,nd on that da~, MeDI Any othtr dlv.u~"on RolI~lI. first (onsldmtion IS adopl<<1 ---.----.,---..-,..---- _. --! l' -._-_-.------..-.._------- , , ", n rl n ,:/ :, - - - - - .+3 p3i~ I I' ',I,:DI M'jvo?<J by H.;,rw, s~on'j(.j t,y CourlIl~y tv give! tlllS hut .;,:,nSl,jmMn Dll<uswn L3rs.;.n/ John. J .",,,,uld lust II\:(? to S.lY th3llt IS Ml oft~n thH you gtila r03d n3m~j 31tH you Nf.;,r, you m 1I.,)d MeDI Tll3lls usually a pttr~uistt+ In /0''';3 Clt;' Courln,yl NOl of~n 'iIY don't git any commint out 01 Mr P.upp...rt MeDI Any otMr dll<\lSSIOn P.ol!(all. First consld+raUon " 3dopt~ I I I ! , \ , i i ! I , I , I i I i i i i i ! i ! nnoeL{ - - Agondo lowo City City Council Rogulo, Council Moollng Novombor 12, ID91 Pogo 5 0, AcUon: .' I Conlldo, an O/dlnonc, omondlng chi Zoning Ord/nonc' by conditlwRy changing tho lond UIO rogulaUOIIS 01 appro", mlllly 33 ocrol 01 lond locotod OOlt 01 SyelmOll St,..tlnd WOlt 01 Orlnt Wood EJomontary School IrOfn ID.RS to RS'5. IFlrst ConsIdorotfonl 1z.GI081 COInmont: At It I mOiling 01 July 18, 1991, tho PloMlng Ind Zoning COfnmllllon rocommondod, by I VOlO 01 4.(), IpprovII 01 I roquolt lubmlnod by Fllnlz Construction lno" on bohall 01 Wilbon Fronlz Ind tho Edilh Fronlz Eatol'. to omond tho zoning dollgnoUon 01 In opproxlmolo 33 ICtO trlCt 01 IInd locltod lilt 01 SyeomO/o Strootond Wilt 01 Wood Elomlntl' ry School IrOfn ID.RS to RS'5, lubJoctto I condltlonolzonlng ogroomont which It/pulotal that 11 tho City II to ucond tho IOnltOry trunk IOWO', vlo 'tiP-on 100 OIdlnonco, which would 10M tho lublocttroCI. ond 21 tho dovolopor I. to obtoln tho rlghtl to oxtond Lokolldo Orlvo, Tho COInml.llon'l rocOfn' mondotlon II conslstant with tho mil momO/ondllll dotod Juno 13, 1991. No cOfnmontllogordlng thIuppllcoUon woro rocolvod by tho COuncil ottho Soptombor 3, Soplombor 17, Octobor 1, ond Octobor 15, 1991, public hoorlngl. COIro. Ipondonc' IrOfn BladfO/d Ind e.rbaro Roork roglldlng tN. proposal WOI occoPlod by tho Council prfO/ to tho clolO 01 tho publlo hoorlng on October 15, 1991. -1J"I~ //1..", 1st tv//, I ,./II'... ;/1;;,/ /Jmb ~ ~tMt "",. n rt n p s - - - - - " I -'Ii' pag\' 1 M~DI Mow..j by Amt.r, S(.:'ln,j(ooj by H'jr.)W t., glv,; lll~t ,:('n!ldmtl~n DlseuSSlljn I:Ubby / We had tall:,;.:! mllo:r about gi'ttlrlg s.nne: tnlorrnJlIOn awut .....o:Uands In thIS afioJ My lnl$undmtandlng J!.Nut ....1Ial WI! agr~ t" I tMught Uut '110: had agr~ te, gH that Informatle'n bo:loro: wi'd:,j thIS'''''~ cam~ to th:s :onln& chang~ I 'n"Juld pri'li'r that It bot that way But thi' agr*rni'nt thH council has IS that Wi' """,Uld do It bo:oloro: 'f.'tf had lInal plans for wMri' Uli' Si'Wi'rs ....,ould go In (1*1 that Ii.'i! would hm' mor~ I~vmgi' II ~ Mv\' Ulat mlljrmaUOn at um point e<<ausi' of my mtsunde:rstJndlng I \~uld havo: ~n mori' vOo:alawut havlllg that Inf(lrmaUon ""lor" thi' r.::"nlng that I dQn't 1*1 ~Omf,jllabl~ putting my name of UIIS SQ I ....'11 bot voting no) 11*lllki' I n*'-1 m~ri' InformaUon about WI1at IS thi' sltuauon out thm In ti'cms I)f weUands \.IeD/ WI! did hm quite o:>;U'nSIVi' dl5<usst'jn 'v/Mn thts partiCUlar prci'1 COUII(\l ,j\o;lagr* on OM of our pro:vtous dlS<U)stoIlS Ulat t" IlIri' wmo: i'i.~ruso: to ri'Vlo:w that WI1oli' ma as far a$ deWmtnlng WI1Jl might M 'f.o.:Uand and WI1at might not bot During Ulo: coum ol our dl5<usslons Ul.:r.: was Informal agr~mo:nt by a malonty of council VI go aMad and prO(~ WIth this swp as long as tM dmloF-:r did agr* to ((oClaln conditions, OM of tM things that Is a lIlUoi Untqu~ aNut this particular sltuaUc,n and the agh~mi'nt that haS lX~n mad~ TIlat w~ lak~ this InlUal sti'p that not only WIll tho: road M i':rtendo:d by tho: di'v~loF*r but thi're IS also an (J}:O:ll3ngo of land Mt'n'~n tM dmlopo;.r and the 5<hool district to allow them Sl)me future i'i.-panslon In tho? future wMn they feelthatth\'y 'f.."ulrJ n~ that I do MlIi've that this parUcular sltuaUon IS such Ulatlt has Ulo: pot~nUal of bVlng a WIll WIn win sltuaUon for a lot of parU,s Involv~, As Ms I:ubby did bring up, W~ are at the same Umfl mOnltc.rlng WI1allS, WI1i'ri', and lust how e:Mnslve som~ of the w~Uands, Esp<<lally to the south of this particular tract. Larson/ I think that w~ did agr",) as a councH Ulat anlndi'p-1nd.:nt study of thi' WI1oli' am, thi' ,00 acri'S or whati'm, 'f.."uld bi' Mlplul as thi' consultants study was Mlpfulto us at Uli' WhlsP'1rlng \.Ii'adows SUbdivision but was pl!rhaps not as Urnflly as It could hav.;o bo.'Vn SIO(.; w" 1:lnd of adoploxl thi' pIal and "Vi'ryUllng by th" Ume Wi' got that I am not sur" exactly WI1at WfJ agri'otd to Whethi'r I:"rlo 1$ right of not on the Umlng of that TII& only reason that I am WIlling to go aMad With It Is sl.)!f, through MonIca Moon's assi'rUon, that Wi' would 11m ample li'vmgi' down Uli' road t,(-causi' 01 the prOtf:Clo:d nalur" of Uli' w"Uan,js througll f~dmllaw to mal:", sur., that Uhi di'v.,lv~r d.;.z.sn'l o Ct CI I~I' b \ .1 I · oj.) PJ&~ ~ d.mlop In 3 way that IS adv~m to th~ \'NUands $., f WIll vot~ In favor It It What I ho~ What WIll happ.:n IS that lat~ on wh~n ....'o'! hav" an ag~nd3 ltt'lO Ulat authon:<'S Ulat planning and tM prol~t lor Ul9 s'......;r i;.:tinslon that ....'11 go through UIIi W!lljli ma An,j I hop.; What ....'11 lIappi'n IS that th~ pro/i'$$(Irs study WIll M Nmp.:tw In Um~ ~nd that thi .;nglnnnna pwpl.; CJn ....~rl: "',th thJt.o \>.',; Jfo) not g~tUng illlogs~r Mads WIth ~3r.1I oth':r but....'V me all trYing to do th(o sam~ UHng IlIopv Ulal our vngln~llllg st3ff mms allotad qUlr.kly In gtlUng thal contra'.l consummatM and g(otUng that study dOM I thmk thal \~ h4Vt amplt Imragt hm to mak'! sur\' that tho1 d~vvlvprn(Olills dOM propvrly. I WIll VO~ In lavor /lvv II think U13l Ulit ml Umit lo vv~ agalnstllls II thi' final pial d*5 not consldvr 1M ....'VUands and consldi'r th\\rn ....'.:11. l.Jr~n/l am sym~ul~ll'. WlUl ~Jrojn'5 pvlnl Ncaus~ usually a pIal com,s and ....'01 11m rath(or IlrnttoX1 rmons '/'10) can votv agalnslll I:ubby II lust WJnt to lusur, U13l 'vo'V 11m Ul(o options opo:n to US TillS IS traditionally In thv way ~ havi' doni' Uungs 11115 Is lllv ttmv lo ,jo llllngs In cm for ~mv ro1a~n tNrv IS a Huki' that \\'V m Wl'ong, w,: hav(l no po~r to changv and Mf >Ualo) Larsonl Or as mur.h po\\'vr as Wit \\'1)111" hay!) al a rv:ontng. McDI Any oUlitr dlsr.usslon. Roll call, Ftlst consfdvraUon IS adopl(ocj,l:Ubby voting no. - .--- --- -. ,- ....-- - --.... nOt] I:' ,-, . - Agondo Iowa City City CouncU Rogulor CouncU Moollng NOVtmbor 12. 1991 Pogo 0 I, Action: g, .J'. as" Action: " I COIIIkfor an OIdl/llnto amondlng tho Zoning Ordlnonto by condllfonoUy thonglng lho land UIO rooulotlons 01 Lot 22 01 BaUay and Bock Addition Irom RS,a to CI.I, IFlrst Consldor. otlonllZ.91011 COfnmont: On Octobor 3, 1991, tho PloMlng ond Zoning Commission rocommondod, by a YOlO 01 6.0. approvol 01 a rOqullt Iubmlllod by Iowa City LondICOP/ng 10/ a 101\0 chongo 101 Lot 22 01 Bolloy and Bock Addition IrOfn RS.6 to CI.I, IIlbjoctto tho condlllonl outUnod In lho momO/andum dOlod Octobor 10, 1091, Tho Commlulon'l rocOfnmondltlon II conslllont wllh lho Itoll rocOfnmondotlon dOlod Octobor I, 1991. Commontl woro rocolvod IrOfn nolghbOllng proporty ownorsottho Councll'a publlo haarlng on thllltom on Octobor 29, 1991. Duo to tho rocolpt 01 101l0rl 01 protOlt to tho rOlonlng propolOl IIOfn nolOhbOllng proporty ownors, pouogo 01 thll Ordlnonto wlll~oqulro tho 10vO/obla VOIO 01 thtoo. lourthl 01 lho momborl\ollho Council. ",t' el Pot.lt' ~~7;'-,A-,;:<<1Ml_(~~~' , tl~a#lt~ ~I Cons/dor an O/dlrllnto omondlng Socllon 3G.62(cl 01 tho Zoning Ordlnonto to pormltldantlllcotlon owning signs In tho RM lmulll.lomllyllonol, ISocond Consldorotlon) COfnmont: On Octobor 3, 1991, by 0 voto 01 6.0, tho PloMlng and Zoning COfnmllllon rocommondod that Soctlon 36'62(cl 01 tho Zonlng Ordlrllnco bo amondod to pormlt Idontlllcotlon owning slgnl In multl,Iomlly Ion.., ThI1 rocOfnmondotlon II conllltont with tho 11011 rocommondollon, No COfnmontl woro rocolvod ottho Octobor 29,1991. publlo hoorlng on thll 'tom, Dovld LonO II roquoltlng oxpodltod consldorotlon 01 thll omondmonl to onoblo InllollaUon 01 tho owning bolOlo wlnlor, Tho ownlno II to protoct 0 bulldlno ontronco Irom tho olomontl, .~I.I.d lAmA l f1lldl.41//6 !J) ,2~(!. /J1./fJ-If ;.t.(~ % , 1)"111 #- -11My ~ ---- -y--.... - -- n n rl e FI - - - - ~ , I -'Il PJg~ 1 f.l<DIII\J~ t.) tM r~:~lpt ,jf l~ttm of f'rot~t to 1M r~:.)nlng prW'HHllH dOo':s nl)t <"1M Into pl~y, (orr(lo:l G~nlly / Com..:t It should !.JY Mt Tt.m ~houl.1 t./ 3 n.jl Iii thvr.. M<D/lt dOoti not r~ulr.. Gentry! An ~~:traordln3ry malollti' Ii nc,t tllggmJ McDI Right An ~xtmrdtnary malollly IS noll1lggm.j ~ It WIll to) a SImple malorlty r(1Ulr~d or nrn1.;..j to Soil thiS approv~j Mov~ by Ambr, soKond\'J bi' Larson t,) 81'/(0 UlIS flrst ':')nSI11~ratl':'n Dly.usslon I ~uld also a~ ~~l, lime enMtJln 3 mouon to accept. t.lov~ by I.mon, s~.,nd~1 by lIorow tQ accepl r~~nt corl\"f"'n.j~nce In to public r~ord D1s<usslon All th(r$~ In favor 01 Ul~ 1001l0n' Motion carrtlfs DIscusiton Hov/l Will S14rt the dlsmslon on thiS ThiS IS a !,.)ugh ISSU, Wi- had many many comm~nts Irom I>Jth the commml31 MIghl>ors on Iludsc,n Ave and Ule ro>Stdentlll Mlghwrs on Iludi'm AVe I know th~ PIZ C"mm did alS(l 1 Ullnk that Ule compromise that WJS deSI&nM by the P IZ Comm Is probably gOing to ~ ~lt.ir In apt*mnce any .....'3y Utan Whalthe nolghbors ar~ looking at now, I wvntand 100kN althat more than onco) Whll. lthought aboulll A I,nc.. WlUl arwr VIU Is going to ~ a d,flnl~ Improvemvnt I did as\: our sUll to r,aUtrm that the rezoning With condltlons Will suy With tht land no matt(,r Who may won the land In Uto fulure, TM llince and tho) arbor Vita aro) part 01 the condItional rezoning and Will remain anlj I \I,\)uld alS(lltl:e to say ~ n~ lo cho!(k up on this Is som~bOOy Mr~ planning lo go bar.l: and 1001: at It and ~ sure Ulat UltSot condltlons ar'~ lulflll~ and tho rmonable pt)rl.;.J 01 Um.;. YliS, Thank you, Horow/l a8r* WiUllhat concoirn wcausoi lllm m svm. iltuallc,ns whm the arbor Vita was dlctalv<! but It ,.rl.1lnly h3s not grown and It hasn't !>Ven monitorcod 1 Iwl Ulat aSlon6 as lll.;orc- IS Nn,jlllonal :onlng on thlj that trav~ls With th~ lan,j th~t this IS the wslas '^'~ can P"SSlbly ,jo TMr~ lust Is no comr-illlng r'Jason for me l,) t>vll~v.;. Ulat If It s!,,)ys RS.O Ulat anoth~r council or anoth~r CNl1mIS!IOn ',o,\)uldn't (hlng~ Illn tho} luturv and Ul~ Mlghbvrs \,\)uld hav~ t,' go through liltS again This l~ .) dlfflcultlsSU& I.arsvll/ltli a rval dlfllcullliiUoi fvf ffioi ~au.oi I dOlft un.jmlJnd hOW ';,'Y arrlvw atlhls condlU"n31 :onlng agflmnoints 1 ....\~uld prvfoir 111al Ulvr& bv somt} way to oinsuroi Ulat UtlS s14y Ul'! l:lnd 01 US& that It s now I don't hav~ much ll'outM With tM pJrllcul)r land own~r lllat adjOins Il or Ulat owns Ulv land using UIIS partiCUlar pm';'l to oIY.paniJ Uli<lr t,uSIMSS S',Ol.;wllal That va~ant !l'lW, VIlIl.;!llS wrround(,j by -"--"'--- ---.,.-..........------..- ..... ..,--..~ ~. - - -....- ~....--.... ----- ------ - - ....---~'T_"-....... - --- o O. CI e cl . · ~r pag~' ~ ,I t an ugly ro?n(~ and not u!~llor ~lli'~hmg, IS g\'lng to l".' t,;Uo?l ap~JlIng and a Mtoi'1 assoJt ~ tho: n"'lgllbollllX'd ....11...11 It IS plant~J I."tll !~";'dllngs and U!{<oj.lS J nursilry Jnd has a Ilt(o.' aUractJVt' r('n('~ aroun.j It If thm W(lr~ a dW(llUng unit on thiS vacant lot !IV"" UI31 ""'J. Mlng usw lor modmt~ (of low mcom(l hOUSing I '...\JUld prot.JNy vot.) ~ I~JV,; It roi>ld.nlJal :onlllS Ilutth" lact that thl: lot H vmllt 3n.J th~ ract that tM U:~ 01 tho? lan.j ....'11 ~ an Improv\'mo?nt t.~ Ul~ Mlghb<~lhOc,.j l~avtfS 1M to voto: 101 It III hJd my dlllUlo?lS I ....'$h tMr.: was a I'lJY to mal:~ !ur~ th3t tho? only l:rnd 01 us~ that (oul,j go "n thee.: /.Iy only MSltJncy aoout r",:onlllg It commo?CC1alls Ul~ lo?3r Ulat ~m~Um(lln Ulv lulur... that buslnvss \o/Illch IS v(lry suc'o,'sslul wm mov~ on and sotll this pro~rty that IS :('no.'d r.ornrn...rml to $Om... ~nllty that would not W an ass"t to th~ noilghoorhOo."ld I don't Ulln!: that I can allO'.... that only 1m to warrant to vot~ on thiS on<- so I ""'11 VO~ In favor of this OM but 11lo~ that th~ n...lghb<jrs don't thin!:. as S')ln(l I)f th(ll(lttNS tIlat wo? havot r,x"lvw, U1Jt UtlS m.?allS Ulat Ulo? council 15 pro bUSIMSS and anll n...lghborhood E<<auso? I don't Ulln!: that IS how tho.' majority of council 15 votmg for UIls f*ls Tll3t Is fairly pf(oSonUng of tho Issuo. I thin!: that IS not tIl3t squaroly prmnW an Issu... ~tw"n n...tghborhoods and bUSU1~tfS. It Is tho Individual facts of lilts (trcumstanc~. th...lndtvlduallot that Is lnvolvvd hm That factlllat tIlm IS a nm1 for a buft~r and lIlat UIIs lot WIll provld~ a Mlp In mating lIlat butf~r thatl~ads m~ to votA. thiS W3Y. 1101'/ W~ also voli.'d to chang~ Ull) cornp. plan so lIlatall of Uloi roiJnllnlng lots lIlat han ~n plann~ for comm~rctal us~ r~v"rt.M to ro?Sld~nlJ31 and 1Ills OM lot Is tht only OM Ulat didn't I think Ulat all of us on Ult council f*1 tIlat 11M Is firmly drawn AS firmly as 'n'v can po;.sSlbly draw It allllls point. I:ubby /1 am som~nv that votM for thv comp, plan cllang~ th3t did not In(lud~ this lot w.:auso: lIlm wasn't a chol~~ at tIlat poInt of tnclu,jmg thiS lot and I ~uld hm IIkw to 11m Includ~od ~IS lot to r"mam r\'SldenUal tn Ul" compo plan. But I foill Ulat Ulls IS ~lrft(Ult. tl)O, ~aU5~ a gain IItt' Randy ~Id. thallI ~ could Illm9 thal thl, \'M9 th(l bUSIMSS lIlat w.)uld sl,)y IMrt) e+-.aUSot 'i.'it cannot Insuro.' tllat I think lIlat Woi havoan obllgaUon lol th<-Iong t.)rm protO\lIon or 1Il€> nvlghborllood to k'i"p It rvsldvnUal An vmpty lot mlllat part of town WIlli no (onm~ on It, a housv can w movvd on It for a r"ntJl pro~rty or own"r occuplW IllS t4g oillOlJgll \l) mtiV", a MIJ~ w~ m s,:.:lng lots of old...r lIom.:s ~Ing dtmollshvd and If th'ir~ IS a pla(~ to 1lI0Vo.'lll'illl to Ulat I~S appropnatoi, It \'Muldnt to! d~lIlol1sllw and put In tti 1Il...1andflll Inst...ad tIloiy (,)uld W mO'lM to a Pl')t or land ,~...... 'Or - . - -------.-- ----- n 0 0 ~I Ct. - · 'if pJS'/ ~ I i I I ! . I I sU~1I ~S this an.j f'%pl" (an II..." thm and It W>..\UI,j ~ a((ordabr" hoUSing I thlnl: thH \,\} 1Ia\'o/ Um obllgauon lor thot long to1rm prot~tlon 01 Ule n('lglloolhoo;l I can't "'Otollor th~ (hang~ to (OmmYI~IJI And it II not to say anyUltng about th~ busln~$ at al\ I hop.? that,lt 1001:$ lI~y this IS gOlOg to pJss, that Iowa City landscaping ""11 go to th" f.oard 01 Adlultm~nt and tJlk al'><)ut th" SOlid \1\"<<1 t(on~y Instyad 01 thy (haln lint I,nc,. I thlnl: that Ulat ""1\ to? ryally gOOoj 101 Ul" nvlglloorll00d I appr~latol all Ul& um~ and (<((ort Ulat you 11m takt'n to tJlk to mt' and to diScuss thl5 15$Ut' !galn agam and agam My only (onco:lO aoout my VOl" IS that It P'MplH I could gyt thrv.! oUIt'r ~ple to agl* With mt', Ulo comp plan would w commor<l3l, the :onlng would bv lestdonual and Uloi nylghborhood would W opYn lor this batUe again That IS ony 01 my goals. Is that Whvn nelghoolh<<<ls light and t>atUy and UlYY 'Win', Ul~y dvn't havy to ~ lOOking OVH their shouldor lor th'/ Mxt batUe on tho samoi turl on tho same ISSUoi That Is my only hesltJu.,n In voUng against It Dut It d~$n't lOOk IIkoi It Is gOing to wa probl"m unlortunately Horowl That IS tho; r~ason Why I I~I uncomlortJblt' leaVing this RS'6tor tho long wrm, Only b<<aus& thm is Ulo condlUonal :onlng gotng along WIthlt Ul3t I would go along With Ulls ordlnancy, I:Ubby II would raUloir strugglo Ulrough It on.; mor.; tJmo, And mayw mn try again to changy tho comp plan on lot 22, That WOUld 00 my prel&ronce, MeDlls Ulm any oUler diSCUSSion. Roll call. Ftrst consldt'rauon Is appro...tld, ~Ubby voung no I , , I I i '1 I . , -- ----- r- - - - --.... .' I . , I i ! I I I I , I I -..........-.---...--..............----- .. it,- ~'l~ .. ~-.....- .......,....~ --- -....----",..---- ~.............-- --~---- ----..-- ---- - - - ...--- - ~T-"-"'" rt rl n :1 . I - - - Agondo lowI City City CooocU Rooul., CooocU Moollng Novombor 12. 1991 P.oe 7 h, -!fl' ~S'J AcUon: I, ConsIdor In O/dlnonco omondlng Chlplor 36, onUtlod .ZonIng Ordlnonco,. 01 tho Codo 01 Ordlnoncol ollowI Clty,lowl, by Imondlng Soctlon 35.11 (olthoroln to clorlfy non-conlOlmlng 101 ItOtus In rolotloruhlp to tho RM.12 ZOllO dlmonslonol roqulromonl', (Socond ConsIdllotlonl COInmont: On Septombor 19, 1991,tho Plonnlng Ind Zoning COInmllslon voted 5.0 to rOCOfnmond omondlng tho Zoning Ordlnonco to cllllfy thlttho vlllod dlmonslonal roqulromontl 01 tho RM.12, Low D.naIty Mulll.Fomlly Rosldentlol ZOllO, oro notlnlondod to pormlttho croollon 01 I non-conlOlmlng lotto 1IIIIn hlghor donsltlol 01 dovolopmont, Tho COfnmllslon'1 rocOInmondotlon II consIltont with thlt 01 tho Itell, No COlnmentl woro rocolvod ettho Octobor 15, 1991, publlo holling on lhllllem, Stoll roquoltl e.podltod Ictlon on thll Itom, , , / ~ Z' ~(l~ JJ.,H.t tV .~"<<'tf IIt""# r4fJ~tV%J' > ~i I ~/ .lJJlld I)",,""" nt ej) % Consldor 0 rosolutlon opprovlng tho cOlroctod IInol plol 01 Roglna Subdivision, tho cO/roctod IInol plet 01 HlckOlY Hill Rldgo Subdivision, ond tho cO/roctod logol do scription 01 tho ICCOII momonl convoyod within tho propolod HlckOfY Hili Rldgo Subdivision, COfnmont: On Soptombor 3, 1991,tho City Council opprovod tho llnal plot 01 Roglna Subdlvlllon 000 tho llnal plot 01 HlckOfY Hili Rldgo Subdlvtslon, .nd tho Clly Council outhOllzod tho 1.10 ond convoyonco 01 0 IO.loot wldo portion 01 tho oxlltlng 60,loot wldo OCCOSI momont within tho propolod HlckOlY Hili Rldoo Subdlvlllon, Slnco City Council opprov.I, tho oppllconll havo dllcovorod thlttho 10001 dOlcrlpUonl lor tho llnal ploll ond tho convoyod OCCOSI momont woro In Olio(, Tho oppllcontl hovo lubmlllod cOlloctod IInal pial' .nd 10001 pope,. 101 City Council approval. SlolI rocommondl opproval 01 tho cOlloctod IInol plOl1 and 10001 papers, AcUon: A2"1/ 7l.~/1I;j,~ }(I, I/;;'.) )J!II;/l'v % ~ -.... .1 I CI ~[,.. 0 :1 J:' · il r>3gt t M{DI Mvv.;..J by Ambr. s~ondoi-j by lIov (0 a,J.jpl UI~ f-n(,luUNI L1Is.;umm I:ubby 111I~d vot>:d 4g~lnSl tillS Sul~il"'lsfvn M-:JUS~ 'Jr our 13(1; or lihvlfonmliht.1lt':1ulallOns to prol.;.:l f113lUf<' lh.;n Jhd Ul\' 1111I Sldv IS amaZIngly dmsbW M thIS Ii an IlnF,,"rbnlllllng ~ d" t+:JUI. Il atrt<t$ ~mt l\'gal do.:urny!it$ an,j IllS ImportJllt to Wf+{l Uut O'lVrill4 II.~DI P.oll (311. TIle: r~oluU')n IS advpl'ioJ ~ ~--~_._---- - r-- ......- - - l' - -... ... ~ .~-- - ._~ [I 0 [I ~I ~I Agondo low. City City Council Rogulor Council MooUng Novombor 12, 1991 Pogo B ~ ACllon: . I. ConaIdor . rOlolutlon outhOll,1ng UOtutfon 01 . Rmllod rol...o .groomont concornlng ItOlmw.lo, monogomonl Ollomlnt .groomont with a.lwoy HiUI Subdivision, Port Ono, COfnmonl: Tho City dOli not O/dlnorUy rol.... . subdivision IrOll1lho tonltlUCtlon roqulromont.lrcludod In tho ItOlmwolor monogomont ...omont .groomont IIIlU pormonont grCM\d. covor II OIt.b1lshod .nd mowlblo ond tho l.cWtfOl .ro othorwllo .ubll.ntloUy COfnplolo, In tho Intorlm, . Ron romllnl on tho lubdlvlslon horoln, cro'llng . cloud on tho tltlol 01 oU proportlol wllhln tho lubdivlslon, Tho Iimllod rol.... Igroomont would romovo tho tlllo cloud, locililltlng 1110 01 lOti, whllo tho City would romoln prOlected by rooson 01 tho lion .1I0chlng to on olCrow lund IlIobllshod .nd molnt.lnod by tho Flnonco Ol~rtmont, Tho City Englnoor rOCOfnmondl .pprov.1 01 tho .groomont. Jl1HA ~/It./" f - /Judy % ITEM NO. 15. PUBLIC DISCUSSION. ./tv 11lrtIJ "." -r- -- ... --..... ,\ I n Ct CI ~I Lt' - .' ! .5 PJ6~ I McDI PuNIC [!I!CtlSsl.jn /.I1t.:h~1I M'jSS/I Jill \>o'tllth~ !l,)V 1st (OOIlMn, J group that has w..~n lorm.;.d $tnc\' th~ Iraglc \'V~nlS that haPPVnM !lov 1st Wi'm F'rlrnarUy conc~rny.j I\~th dlscu~slllg p..'Sslbl~ c~\rnmUnal Jcllon In r~sp.;.m~ to Wh3t hJp~ny.j inCluding 1~lslallon 3$ ....~II at loX31acttcn ™ group has IIlH tWlC~ now and IS compns~ c,t S~v~r,ll 01 th(t Wldov... and f*Opl~ Irom all \I'all:s 01 th~ commumty What I wvUld Ill~\ to do IS ro:.lu~st Ul~ my council sc'nd !QttQrs to ro:pr~s~nlal1v~ r~u~l1ng th~ stJ~'requ~llng thatth(t PNhlNUons that hm ~n p.Js~ In th~ slat~ law agamst local communttl\'S 1~lslatlng hand gun control on thi'lr own W r~tnd(..j. But al5\l to UI~ /o\o'J Sla~ Munlclp.lllty. McDI Th~ Iowa L(tagu~ ot MUntclPJlll1i'S IS th~ organlZJUon that mCoSt otth~ elll~ and to....'llS In fwa ~Iong to and do a lot 01 th(t 10bbytng le,r common IntmslS among thos~ clUt's and towns MosSI On~ 01 our long ~rm goals IS to. Ul \\\irking WIth loca!IJ',~ t'nlorct'm~nt and hunt~r's groups and ~plt' Irem all walls ot tht' ~mmunlty to dralt 5\lm~ pttIC~ 01 l~tslatJon that ....'o)uld ~ amonab!Q and could w PJss~ by rQlmndum In thl) community that WVUld ro:strlct or would tUrthor control UIO USt' 01 hand guns. Thoi purchm. transporUon. ott 01 handguns, In ord~r to do that 'n'~ hm to do ~mothlng to gt't th& Slat.> prllhlbltion ri':nowd MeDII know tho m*Ungs that y,)U hm had, I know that you havl) dOM somo) r~mch In thts ma You r~all:o: that as tM law ro:ads at UllS point th~ local municipality Is r~trlc~ as l\) r(tally cannot d,) anyUllng as tar as adopt~ any ty~ 01 strlc~r ordlnanco: Ulan WIlat Is prQs(.nUyon tho) books at tho: Slatt Ii'vol TM authority to do this wvuld hm to Cvmoi thrOUgh thv Ivglslaturv tn ordvr l\) glvo US Ulat I:lnd 01 authority Mossl The lett~rs wvuld wa symbolic g~sturo tndlcalJng thoi InlertslS on th~ part 01 th~ city to 00 abl~ l\) do Ulat. l:ubbyl On& 01 th& Intmsl1ng Ullngs./....-as at Ulat pr-:ss conf~r~nc~ that lamlll~s ot th~ vlcllms had and MIO~tt~ I^:wj~rd;r said Ulat In 1990 WIlen Ul& pr~rnpUon clauso} \~as put on tho} gun cOulrolla...., Utat Ul~y hmd Irom no OM 01 1M local!('Vlil Th~y h(<Jrd from no cttlvs or 111& L4?g of Municipallt, $v It S~~rns a litO" lalol but I think Ulat It Is an Important thing to Ii'! Ul&m kno\~ that wo would IIk& to 11m that option ot dOing McDI W(J can do It. Again. th~r~ Is a ((<flaln action .a c~rtaln lObbyIng o:llorts Ulat Wit can do as IndIViduals or C')II~ltv~1y It counr.II....,ouhl so d~slr~. Onv 01 Ul-: Ullngs that \\\iuI,j l\.i dlltlcUlt at tho;. lo:g Iml I I I I I I I I rl Ct CI :1 S - " i · ) t~gv 2 ...."uld t~ that UlIS wuld ha'/~ tv b-i ad.)pto:>.j 3S a pmnty by Ulm bo,lr,j 01 dlr/Xt,)fS I:ubb,'/ IgucoSs aIHt.:r \"'vuld I.:t th~m I:now that th':r~ IS on~ ctly that IS IntH~sty.1 /.leD/ Thm IS c~rt.\lIlly nothmg wTVng WIth trYing tv gH.trYlng to Impr~.s upon tM leg that WI! ....'vuld conSldH this an Imporl.1nt Jg~nda It~m lor M up comtng S~Slon tn Ul': 1<-gISlaturv /l'jv / I Ullnk that ......: could dlS<USS UIIS tM n~:\'t UlIIo? .^~! roM WlUI UIV largo? (Ity mayors That IS a gOOd population that IS r~pm~nW Lorson/ Not only Ulat Just tho lact Ulat UI~r~ was no Oppo:>SIUon last tJm~ do.:o$n't m~an at all that Ul':r~ wvuldn't bo:- a grc-H d~al 01 Opposition UIIS Umlt. ~m.;.tim.;.s you hav.;. tv SUlk.;. on a pr(.gmslv~ ISSUo? CHAUGETAPETO REEL 9HI SIDE 2 I.Jr~n/ /I.;.:<t m*ung..jo you havt It s~t so Ulat po?Opl~ m \&/Jlchlng Moss/It Will bo:- tWj Mondays from now Larson/ ~ you know wMrl) M<m/ Wv IImn't d~~rmtnvd It Look tn thv (>3p<-r It WIll bo:- som9whm In th~ Mlimorlal Unton. Larson/ P~pl, can call you or callf:artn and hnd out In tht MlIt two w*ks as to whvn It WIll w Walch the Mwsp3~rs II th.;.y \&/Jnt to 1010 In the movem~nt. M<>ss/ Sur,. It WllIl" pUbllcl:~ In tho) Dally Iowan Mor, Ulan III:ely It Wlll .xcur III the M,monal Union. Larson/I wvuld say that alUlough Sl.1lo: lo!glslation pr*mpls us from some things that It do.:sn't pr*rnpts us from mrythlng I hop.: you will continu~ to e(:plor~ things that the I......al governmtint can do I:Ubby/ It Is nlc~ bYcaus~ wv m not lust lool:lng at Ivglslation. We are 1001:lng at community action, education on dlttmnt ways on roisolvlng contucl \'l~ laU:i-d atx,ut thv poSSlbUlty of f..;.opI9 'vlh.) hav.;. hand guns or oUl~r guns mat Ul~y mlly d(>O't want to hm UI~m on Ul~lr prop.:rty or ~rson. And 11m a gun m~lt down and do a p'~acv convorsion UlIng ond rnal:tI It Into a m~mortal W': ar~ lust looking for dlttoront Idm. If p*pl<o havo Ido3S 3nd want to g(otlnvolv~-d, plvas.! jorn us twv Mondays from YtiS~rday Lars<>n/ I don't want to suggest othvr things that you can do But wMUlvr th&rtllS 3 gun conlIolla't/ln Iowa CIty, Iowa or not, It mayor may not bv as Important of an Issuo as wMtMr the US Congro:ss does SOIMUllng I might P'~lIlt out Ulat our r(oprlis(onlativli as w(oll as lIV., of tllo? m: rvpro:so:ntJtivvs lust vow.j against th~ last gun control bill For .....---- ----- .-.-..........----~ --- .. ...--. ~ .......- - - - - --.. - nOO:lb - II ~, r-agi 3 $-jm~M r.jrtr~YM H! h~ral [w:momt 10 I'OI.~ um ~1Y t~aus~ ," Ul\' ruralllatul'~ of his ,1lslml II un';"IlI<I'jMb!o! IrI my mind and J Uunk thH If P"-'Opl; hav<- 3 prublvrn WlUI hiS 1',,((.$ anli oUI~r (ongr<'ss ~plt'i ..."wi "11 that liSU+. Ulty oughl to I.;t hUll I:nvw MvSS/J Ulm!: th3t 'n't haw. t.) bYgm WIth wlwr+ Wt m and w m a commumty that has t#n t.:m'rt=~ ~ 'n\! art 'my so?nsltm (.) this lSSU'! and Jthtn!: Ulat If \0,'; ~l:o: tM IllItlaUVt Jnd a.;t on thiS on a 10<:311;':+1 TMtIS') 'lollY ImJ:'~ltJnt sttp as \0,'.;11 '1Il1.;thtl Ulan t1YlIlg to lobby Washmgton Thlt has t#n gOing on for Y.;3IS I Uunk th!t 'f,\! can aii.:o<t cMng.; Immo!dl!I~1y I..'lr~nl Thm IS a IIUl; rnom(ontum Mwand NfCir<- 1M In.;tdi'lIt thtrv was ~mt mom+ntum naMn3l1y IH+ly IMsSI And 'n't 3ft lntolrtst~-d as ",,'vllln MJIlng from hunt.:r's gloups ^nyoM conctrn~1....,th thiS ISSU, that IS mtmst~ 11\ a rvsponSlblt pt<-<+ Ofl<ilSlatlon Mlng dralt.;..j to N put up for a rMmno1um VO~ Th3t UI;y StV, US th,lr Idv!s W.; 31~ plltn3ttly InwloilSW 10 dOing all UIH....'i: can It 'wI)uld ~ ImrJomlbl, to say IhH anyUllng .;ould hm proiVtnto!d thOSt tragic ,v'lIls Irom tXcurrlng Wt ar.; IntH~W In dCilng as mu,h as w\' call. Courtn,yl Ev,n Ulough I hm s"m, ,mvm,lY lavorabl, Io)anlngs in what you art proposing 11.,13 bit uncomlortJblt ....,th US lust b1anl:H saYing that 'n" Will si-nd th;~ Ivtlo!rs "",U10Ut som; sort 01 public Input I hm t-Hn on th, I/atloml Commltt.;.:. at tho) l/aL Ltg. 01 MUnlClpal1U;s lor Ulr.~ y...3rs Uut has d~b3toid thiS vn Ul& Iloor and It has t-Hn d~l~atoid i-3Ch tlm~. ~rlmartlY bo&ms, 01 th; rural consUtu~ncy out Ul~r~. J ulld~r st.lnd whm our parU:ulu 1~lslators m coming Irom To gH Ul~ Iowa L<-g . ~, SUPPVlt thiS would w dllllcult at bYst whon mn th, flallCinal L~ 01 MunlctPJllll~i can't g~tlt dOM I:Ul>by I W~ art nvt tJll:lng 3INut ShOtguns or rtllvs \Vii 3ro lalkmg about handguns, COlJrtn~y II un'j~rst3nd I am not arguing Jgalnstlt I 310 lust saymg Untl am 3 bit un,:omlorl.'lbl'! WCJlJSv w; m, dOing thiS It IS an Jrgum(ont that has Mvn dOM on much hl~h~r IvVoills than thiS and normally rc-qulm a lot 01 pUblic Input LaU<Olil AN you $iying thallhls r,ouncll nwds to lIal'. mor~ dl)cumon about '~HMr W~ would hm adv.x3to;. tM Liog tal:tng It up !.IeDI W~ would h3\1ti to First c,1 all. ~.'i! hav," Ul':' nght as mdlvldual council m~mbm 0 ~/J'tt'i l!l" Loig and Vo, Wlltoi our loiglSlators on any partlcular ISsu; UIJl might \)0;. Nlorli IMm Butlf \N m gOing to ,10 It as a boAy thvn thiS IS ~olllHhlng that 'n'Ould Il)v~ t,) 1>" SO:ht...juloid --.. -.. T-- - " t n 0 CI ~I .-, - 1\ · ~ pag~ 1 I:UbbYI So ,an Wo~ s.;h\'ojul~ It lor an mlNmal McDI Thll ...."uld l~ IIn~ I:ubbi' / I UUllt lhalll....X\uld to) mory r,<j\....;rlul c,;.ullng IrNn us /.l,D/ Ony ollh~ Ihlng,.on, ollh~ 3f'pro.lchyS U13t C3n t~ tJt..1I on thiS I f"\'rson3lly agrc", ....'Ih your ~st!Jon 311,j III dlJn't On Ih~ olh~r Sldll OM of Ih~ t.3cUe~ Ihat nugM ....')rk 3S 13r 3S olh~r mlJnlctpllU~ m'ns UI& sl..)(o> ,)110'.1'3 ESP01o:1311y 3S 131 3S lust ....>>rl:lng '...,Ih our 0....'11 1~1!14tur~ and \oNltlng Ulfough our ...."n L~ ~M ollh~ thing' that 'vN try to accompMh In all ty~ 01 dlflmnt arm IS mm 10<41 control On ISSU(i Ihat dtr<-:Uy 3ftc"t us M~t IOC311y tl\'Ctr!oJ 0lll(l31S across Ih~ su~ ....,ould uSU31ly lump on any t>3nd \o.'JgoII Ihat ....Xluld gtV& Ihim baik SOIOil (C,ntrol so Ihat YGU can mat.. Ihos~ kinds of d~lslon t:ubby / L~l's lust \o.Tlt~ alH!;.r saYing Ihat 'vN ....'Jllta ban.j on all pr.;.vmplion (Iaus~ urson/ Many l1m~ ....~ hm ~n astr)oj to wnl;. a l~tt~r SJYlng Ihat Ihls tssu~ IS tm~rt.3nt t.) us and ....'i1 hav~ lust d')II& It WIlhvut ~ttlng It for an aginda tt~m. I dvn'tknow Why Wv lusl can't do Utat McDlls Utvrt a majority Ihat \o.';lnts t,) dlr~tlhatalthts ~In~ Utalls Ilnv. Larson/l do McO/ W~ can talk about WIlting a liltH to th~ L<-g to ask Ih,m to Larson/ An,j to our IOC311<-glslators Who Ilhlnk hav, I:tnd 01 aSl:r)oj le,r hat I,tt,r, MeDI On. 01 th~ Uttngs that IS gOIng on at this um~ 01 ym, tM L~ IS actually ~ttlng Its 3go)nda lor Utt u!>':omlng svlsion But Uler. can be) some oth(or Issuts added I don't hm a problem WlIh Utat. Courtn,yl W" m also aMut to go tnt.) th~ /lat. L~B.;.f Munld, m~Ung again and II this hasn't t#n propwd by anolh~r municipality to put on Ulli lloor onc.;. again thin any cIty or town can proposv 1~ISlativo) lobbYing to 00 pm.d on Utt lloor. MoW TMrv m narnf:S 01 elUvS Ulat 11m boXOIM syml>OlIr. 01 UIIS I:Ubbyl Woul,j you ~ Wllltng to \oNII: on Ihat som~ Courtney I Slnc~ I am Olio) 01 UlriN ~plt) Irom th~ st.)t" on Ih~ COllllllltt%, I SUpposli It anyon& IS gOing to It would 00 mv Things ollhls magnitudv aft) prolHsvJ to bi palt 01 U\t) 8111 01 Rtgl\t$ and tM ConsutuUon mal:ofS mo) a IItU, uncomlorlJbl~ lust passing It W1UlOUt any chanc.> lor PUbliC Input boiSldvs C'lIo) ~rson I:ubby I We 3fo) not WTiung 3 lo)Ulir aSI:lng lor anylhlng to l~ b31lnoo WI) arli asking 101 US to have control o 0 0 :1 FI - ,\ i , 5 p3g(o 5 Court.llvy/l st.3rW out 5Jymg that I IofJS IJvorJbl') to W!lJlholl>.'J$ w:mg I dOll't want to lust do UlIS WlUIOUt at l{oast brm&lIig Uns up U-lat thvl\' IS gNng to N somo! P"iOplv thJt ,"\)uld 111:" 10 11m a 5JY on Ui r~prv~nllng th"m In UIIS 13illlon t10v / I think Ulat you are! right aoout that II .....\1 a,:tullly gilt to th~ r~lnt of saYing that \~.~ m going to r~stn<t lM all ~.." m Hymg !lOW IS that wv ....\)ulll \l\:~ So,mv Io<all(oadway anll that I thmk ....~ on $.3y urson/And any ordinance that....'V pm must lI3ve, by 13\</, a ph Courtney / I have 3 lot of thing' that I ....'Vuld hl:~ not to M\.... pr~mpuon on urson/ This IS OM where, lio.,<aus<- of th(l timing, w... might W vll\'\Uvo;. Courtney / We gotac~ out on UI~ clg3r~tt~ vlindlng mJchln~ c.rdIMnc.; t+:ause of pr{o~mption, For them to <Ialm that not...o1y cam" In and dlsagrNd ....,th It to m~ Is.they al'...'3Ys throw that m as a lasl thought Ws mal:(I sur(o that the C1ti\1 don't 0'mrI1(1 us Lars"nl Trutll bo) 1:00\1'1 My undvrst.3ndmg IS UIlt thv malorlty 01 Ul~ l~lslators didn't ~ven I:now It was In 1M bill It was ad,jo)<j at thelasl mlll,u~, Mossl One.; Wit hm tIlo! option 01 drafting our own pl<"!) of 1<115lation thvn tMre will mtalnly haV,; t.) ~ Marlngs and w,; Will 11m to arrive at a consensus, I tIllnk tIlat tills actually IS a grvat ~t cm lor a community of concvrn~ ~ple. We art alSO a rural community, I am a hunt.!r mys>?lf, I am not In~r\1tox1 In any sort of ron 01 handguns outl'lgllt but I am Inv.r~w.t In morl) ri-sp"tlslbl" 1tigal control of who purchas~ U\em and hOW tIli-y are, I tall:e-j to SMrlll Car~nd...r aoout thot UIIS \I...\o~k Onc.; lit Issu&S a ~rmlt to obt.3tn a handgun M l:no\o{S that ho haS no lurth...r control. Hoi dO<o5n't know what was purchmd How many w~apons wvr,; purchai~ He apparently Is Issuing lnordlnat... numwrs 01 pvrmlls to studtnls at thv Unlvmlty who by law atvn't sup~o) to havo) ~Ieapons III their dorm rooms. W& l\aV& got a lot of wv3~>ons running around our commumly that 'n~ don't mlly tnow alXiut Thm \) a lot to W dls.:usS~ Mr,} and I thlll\: Ulat It Is ImJX'rtant that 'I"~ try to arnv" at a cons-:IlSUS as a community wMn It com~s lIm~ to dralUng thIS 1~lsl3Uon Kubby/ So Wi: can go aM3d and wrltv M~DI That IS line. Larson/ I don't havv any problem at all With coundl s~~mg tM l(>tl~r ~nd approvmg It and mrytlllng I just thIn\: we lI3'/e dOM qUltv a Ii:W vI tMm on acclamation CourtMY II Ulln\: that WiJ should haYft a <hJn~~ to haVv SOlll~ c,)mm-:nt on tIl~ ti:ltt n n. CI ~I Cf - - I' · 5 PJ8i> 6 M~DI '(ou ""11 gH ~ <Mnc~ t" r~vl':'w Ul~n TIIMll: you \'~ry much J<>hn IMt/ Prot.:ssor ot Astronomy ~I th~ Unlv.:rstty ~nd I w~nt I,' SUp~"t Wl1at was lust ~Id I 3m gOing to bv gOing Into ~ htU~ rnvrv deltall though OM 01 th~ things that has Inlmstt-d mil ~ gr~3t d~311S how Gang LUI was abl~ to purchaY.' t\\l) handguns And Ilool:>?<I Into It by t.)1I:lng to Pal WlllW and I got a c<>py 01 th~ law an,j baSically Ul~ law IS v\lry \oo\\3k law and IllS t'>..twn~ly dllllcult to o!nt"rc~ Th\l tacl, wchnlcally It you read th~ law cart>tully, th~ sh~rltt IS sUPf"Js", to ISSU~ the po:rmlt to acquJr(o a handgun as soon as thi> appUcauon IS tlllvd OUl Which IS aboull'M> mlnuws. And th~n hy IS SUPJ>>Si to conducl UllS (h~k and It In th~ procvss ot dOing th~ (hi..;k h~ tlncts that th~ polrwn should nOl hm a gun, M has to go tlnd hIm And lMy (an bui' th~ gun anyWh~reln th~ staw ot Iowa. WhiCh means h~ has to sm(h 1M who St.)w. My view IS that IS an unentormblelaw Nw tortunately tor th~ ~pl~ that IIv~ In Johnson Courln~y, SMrltt Carpo?nd~r 'M>n'l glVIi them th~ po?rmll Hi mal:~ Ulem como 00(1: tor It allo:r a thr~ day waiting po?rlod. As a (ons~u(onc(os, we hm 3 small amount ot pro~Uon. But thm Is things that hv IS supposv to ch~1: that M cannot I~ally do, I/i> cannot tlnd out It thv ~rson has a mvntal tIIMSS and Is mvntally lncom~tent Without a (ourt order. TM only way hv can ttnd out It th€'y m an alcoMI a~user Is It thvy hm a history ot drun!: drlving, Ho can get Ulat trom Ule analysts or drIving r~orlj And the only mson hv can tlnd out It th~y m a drug abu~r 0 sUbst.)nc~ abuser Is It thoy havi an arr~t r(o(ord that g~s along With thal So tho law r0311y dO\\5n't pro~t us VNY well. Tho other tNtur€' that Wi just talked about Mrv says that no p"IIUcal subdivision can mal:o an ordlnanc~ that Is moro rigorous than th~ Sl.1w rnvans that \>,'v mlly cannot do anything unl~ss wv do It al tho stJw 1m! Wv'vv ossvnUally 1051 local control. FUI Ul~rmor~, ,^~'v~ lost local control In anoul~r rltSJ}<<t, In Ula! UI~ po:rwn WlIO IS supptno:d to ~ntolCv Ulls law Is th~ sMntt. but th~ sh~rlt! can ~ ovmul~d by som~ ral:l)I~ss bur~aumt tn th~ ~pt 01 PuNIC S<lMy In ~ MOines And thaI hap~ned in this cas/) The law says absolut4ly nothlllg about rOri!lgn, clUzvns ot torvlgn counlrlvs that m r.sldvnts in UI~ Unll.;d Stato)s Not <>M word. And Ul~y could havi! said th~ ~rson had to ~ a r~lstl)rw vo~r III JOhnson County or thv (OUnly Whi!r~ Ilv got UIl) thIng ThaI would hm mad~ It cltiar thvy hm to ~ a ClUz~n TMy dldn'l say Ulat Thvy say you ar~ SUPP')svd to ch~l: thlt stat~ and UI~ naltonal .......- .... .. ..,......-........ -.......,....--------.-....------.--~----- ----- n 0 0 LI Ct - · ~I P3g'~ 7 I ! i <rIm~ r"":.:.ro15 Th~ I~gl(al \';>:t~nsl<:n lor sorn~"" lr"m a lor~'lgn {ountty IS, you l:h~t. Uli' crlm~ r')\Olds In !h~ horn~ country Th!ir,n noUlIng Ilki' tllH In h~r(l lilU <:an lnt>)rpM It t'lUli'r \'/;Iy It's ,M;'3tJbl.; And thi d~ISlon was ma,1, by svm"Ix":Iy III o.;s Mom.;.s \;110 IS not J"OuntJbli ~) Uty votm /loV! You m,an Ult sMnll Mri' 011':\ Mt grant Uti' I'*nnlt7 /l,1I / /10 H(I r(lIUS\-1 to gr antlt An1 M was ovmulo?<1 by Ut(l o.:pt 01 PuNIC Salit>' n.:o{aus~ Ul~ri' \','.15 no way to Ch-?<!: WlUI malnlJnd China to S~) II h(l had any <rlmlnal r~ord I don't ~II(1vo.! Ut(l stud,:nt visa 15 ch~!:.xl Vi~ry Uloroughly I Utlnl: It th(lY Md a gr~f1 md Ut!ire'd ~ much mor., Utorough <h<..;k Butlt It'S 3 5tudi'nt Visa, I don't Illln!: Utey {h~k It v.;ry IMroughly So h.; bad no Idia What ~rt 01 p<lrson M was d(lallng WIth So I think Illat Uto;, Utm's a 1~IUmat(l Mmi> rul, problim hm, And ",~'ro d0311ng WIth 3 sltuauon Wh<-ri' w, hav, no prot.:,,;uon And th(l po:opl(l 01 Utls {ommunlty m mlly IrustratM about It And I hop.: you po:opl(l WIll Ilgur(l out What to do about I! You know a lot btU,r Utan I do 01 how to d,!1 WlUt 1ll(l1~lslature on rnat~rs 111:(1 Ulls, /lov / At tM mom(ln~ all wv (an do IS Shari' your Irustrauons, /l.;II/I'd also Iik. to suppvrt th.; 101.;.1 01 a gun purchm XXXX program I don't know too mUCh about Illat I undmtJnd Illat Utat has ~n succ~slulat 51 Louis, But I Utlnk that maybt Illo communtty ,",'Ould know that Wd do a lund drlv(I to rolls.; mOMY to do th3~ Wd probably hm pr(ltty gOOd pJrUclpaUon And I tlllnl: Illay~ that's What ..,.,ov ought to look Into also. Thanl: you v(lry much. ~kDI Thank you, JOhn, Is Ulo:ro> anyoM (lls(I who ~)uld 11I:0> to addri'Ss Ill(l (ouncllabout any twm th3t ,10\0s not appm on this ~ventllg's agenda? John Rummilhartll'rn John RummOlhart, again III sWl!(h Io<us a hUlo bit Mro. I lust hm a protty small problim I'm lust trying to Nmg to light to mrybody on Ul~ coun~lI It's s~tfjc to m(t, but it's gon~rlc to tho city as a WllOlo Wi! cumnuy Mvo purcllas(>tJ so:.mo? prop.:rty Mhlnd our current buslnm dOWllat Contractor's TOo)1 and Supply, and Illm's an old,lalrly ~II dllapldatoXl, old housll on the pro~rty Ill(tro.> Porhaps It a problem 01 tho) Individual I'v.: boX,n. was worl:mg WlUt, by lh~ nam. ot Max YO(um. But aSldv Irom, l:ubbYI A probl,rn? A problem? I'm sorry RummOlhartl outside 01 any IndivIdualS, Illeri"s a curro)nl chanc.; WhM& a salvag(t3bl(\ houso, that might to? up to qU{,slIOn, It'S a 50111 old hOUse, by flI.), cortalllly nH<1s somo up-grading, U.at IS lalrly roady (.;. l"? mc/vM T,) my undmtandlng trom tall:lng t..' U1\o hOUSing IrlSp",,:tl,jn ----~.,.-.--......- - - -- " I ~ - ~ . - - ~- ~----....--------- - T-- ...... n r tJ LI ' I - I .' I · S p3go! ~ f+'f'li' UH.tH tlfllnlt.tly J <IJmp Tho!lt ':,nIY dlt\'\lJon ....'Jl, llu! 110111~ ""5 Mt S'i1ng !Jj t-~ mlj'/o,~j ThH h"UN IS gOing t., l~ l\J~l(Jlly, lh~ vnly OPU('1l C'p'-'n to mli Jllhls pvlnl or I.ho! gamo! " to (urr~nuy t~lng In fi'laUv"ly f.;a,Jy !oJ mov~ TltH IllS unsH" and I.hall hav. 10 d" s<,mi'thlng at'liut II WhJt am lto do I 11m no Plac. to I.1k. II or PUI It I dWI 1:110'", I ....ouJd Ilki to hang on 10 II III CJn Whal Ulvy m to!lIlng mo! IS ,j('m,'lIsh II TM only plac,) t.~all <an tJl:l! It Is to 1M dump ^nd UlallS hOo! I am <~ft.3lnIY nol qUibbling aL.~ut havmg to lpotnd a (OUPI~ Ulou5<'lnd dollm 10 go!t rid 01 3 hoU5~ 1M f":Ilnl In a Jargo!r conlo!A't IS I Ullnl: Ul3t Ul~r~ IS a.l.hls IS OM Inst.)n(~ but It IS haPF~nlng rlgllland Io!lt S<im(owMr~ along Ul(o 11M I wuld ho~ Ul~l Ulyr, ~uld t+ pYrhaps s<>m~ t.;1t,r (OOrdlnaUon t.;t....'Wn I.h, pUblic dy~nlllynl and lIlayti svmt 01 Ul, non prohl ofganlZ.lUOns and Individual Ill:, mYk\11 as lar as saYlrlg wMn Ult Insp.l<Uon dtP3rlmtnlls saYing My Insl(03.j 01 $3ytng My hYft IS a hoUS(o, I:nO<I: Ult son 01 a gun dO....'Il, 1.31:(0 It out to Uly hndUII I'm Martng as I (omy to Ulony m+Yllng5 somi' Um>!5 15 My ~ d',nl want to till UIY lan,jllll and h,y ~ got po.1<jpl.) n~l<jlng MUSlllg That Id trustratmg. Larsonl Why canl thy hou$Y W mmd John Rummylhart/l can't t.; quow on Ult r~(ltd W{aust I am a IltUt bit hazy on Ul, WlJol, sltuallon tOo), 1My w,r, gOing to bY holding mt In cont.>mpt or not In con\limpt but th,Y.Uli city was gOing to ltnv ml) If that bUlI,jtng movoo off Ul~ prol*rty. ~ubbYI BoKJu~ Uli St.1t" of UI~ hous~. you m.)an Rummylh3rtlllo, McDI JOhn, y"s Ulat Is Ul~ ro!a$l)n I am a lIttl~ bit lamlUar W1Ul Ults p.3fUcular lssu(o RUrnmilll3rtl You ar.; prowbly mor~ lamlllar Ul~n I am Neaus. aliI was. my p.3rt ollt \lo'aS hm IS an old houw and hop,lulIy It could bY S3lvagoo 3nd Lmonl WlUl al1 du(o rtspoxll d'jn't I:now tho! Issut hm, Mr.OI TIlt) Mus.! has l":ovn InSp.l<I~J moro! Ulan onc'! 011 smral dlll"'r~nt O<(Jslons and bI'o:aus., ollh~ probl-:ms f..xausv'" tho! condlUon Th., IndiVidual as y.,u m~nUon(od was gOing to t.11:0 UltS Itouso and put It on anoUlor pl~.> of pro!>,!rly Ulat M owns Rumm~lharl/ Was It out of Ulv city MiDI $howm Rummvlh3rtl Sho\loWS Addtllon Ilhlnk Ulat It must ttio on <IIY propvrty McD/lt IS RUllltnvlhJrtl ~:<ausof UlofY r.ond(omnofd an v>Jsung bUlldlllg ----..-...........- - ... .. .,.................--......,...-~---------~-- -~- DOC/Lie , ~ pg,;"j McDI And t,)o'~ that (1M dO....'Il AM IMn thiS ~Htl~ulal h.jw thaI h~ oWMd wMt M WJS gotng tv IM'I.; to that I.JlM I<<Jtlc.n It was insp<<totd and It was told that thm .....yr.;. c~lt""n t1illlgS thJl ""'.1. gOing to havv to N dony WIOIY thy hOUi.. could N mO'Iy,1 ursonl Why ....'3S that McDI B<<aus'~ 01 th~ (OMlllon It ....-as In that ba.j 01 condltlon Lar5')nl WilY "~uldn't Ul~y hm tv ,Jo th~~ things aIM It E,)t mov~d McDI ~) tt bo:lm Rummtlh3ll/ Which IS ridiculous boI\m... th'!r.; IS gOing 1,1) b\' d3m)s~ bo:t'.l'*n In the. moving urson I What IS It Ulat you o,.,\)uld Ilkv to SYio changotd, JOhn Rummelharl/ I mlly don't hm an ans....'VI. I am lust bringing It up.t:Ylng to bring a point to tho) surfac.;. that ttls tough I don't ~M',\, II som<oOM (ol~, bo: It mys~11. If I 1131 a I.,t If I p.llSo)nally h3,j 3 pla.;~ that....'3S r.;.latmly (IO$'.'to wMrof Ulof hous'.' o:urr~nUy IS and It II'3S f~J!ibl~ to mov~ It I think mys~1f I might bo: (omlng to you an'J saYIng My What do I nHd to do) to mal:.;. a movo.' I don't. 1.JrSo)n/lt sounds Ilk\l Ulo) answ~'r IS to bring It up to cod~ To Iulltll th.;. insp<<Uon d.;lIc1yncl~. Rumm~lh3rtl Y.;.ah, I don't kno\.... Som.;.how thm IS suppos.;. to bo: th~ Mus" has got to bo: o,.,\)rth ojO~ of thy valu.;.. Thm again, I don't know tht particulars, Supposotdly tM thing was Insp<<totd as tar as Its Int~rlty. McDI By our butldlng Inspoxtor I know lor a lact that Ulm was mort) than. 000 trip is normally all it would t.1kC' But box"us~ of thi' IndiVidual had cont.1.;W 010) and $Om'~ oth.;.r things that took plac.;, UI.; bUilding Inspoxtor was out making at Imt a minimum of two and III r"rntmbYr it might mn hm twn about Ulr" tnps down thm. AU:lnsl That proF*rty has bYvn lnspvct~ nummus Urn(-s Thy building InSpi'(tor mad~ a IUdgvm~nt and In th(- e>rdlnanc.;. I don't know th~ SP'XlflC languag~. Thm Is a valu~ as you ~lnt>:Od out ~I ojO~ An,j It was IIts IUdg~m'!nt Ulat Ulat llOus'~ did Mt motH Ulat d.;.lI01Uon and tn lact was conmn~ that tho) hous~ may "nd up colla~slng Wlitl~ It Is In transit OUr vl:p.:rtvn~v WIth tM prvvlous IIIdlVldu~1 was that vvry possiblv Wlilch m~ans that th,) public IS 1lI:(,ly to t~ out UI"ro) ~1i'3nlng up that mvss als-) And Ilvlt v.ry strongly that I am nolln a FN)jllon to subsutut.;. my ludgvm~nt for a butldlng IOsJ:*ctor Wlio know; th"Sol things Intlmawly If M wlls 1M Ulat It IS li<Jt ....'<ortlllt QUlw lrarll:1y John that Is sauslactory Rummt)llIart/l Cvrt.1ll1ly approCl3t... Ulv ~lIIt And Iluit 1I0pol Ul3t UII)S') dl!CIslons ar~ wing m3\1v rationally an,j n,)t stmUy ~rnoU')nally --....---~~------. - --- I' ,.- - .... .. ,~..... ...,........ ~. - . ....- -~~ -- - - r--- ..... - ~ - -..... n rl n LI :, - - - - ,\ I .5 pagv IQ ~rhaps Thm again th~ Int~lIty of th~ bUilding I on t s!.'lnd Mr~ an,j hono:sUy VO'II for It and say My It IS ~af'~ ~) IM\'~ I don't ~M\'" th3l for a fact Bullthtn~ that ~V'~n 1III \~S liy Ul(o In~~~~Uoll po:<'plv's opinion was SJlv.1gablHJtv to mov.; 1 don't ~now ., It was .1bl~ to t~ movw And that IS a tough thing W~ m 1(>Slng again th" ro!soums of all tho! W\>o<1In thiS bUilding, th~ landfill IS g.)tung flll(.,j up Tho! w-orst thing IS tho! POSSibility 'l~ah maybo: l\y you JlI'j 1 Wo1 100'1: at a pl~~ of.1 don't know If our c.:.jo:s J(~ too, sUlngvllt but a hou~ It tMrv IS a Muso! that dOo:so't haVi> any Mat III It but thm IS a roof Mayw tM roof d~sn't 1~.11: TMt IS "",rtho mansion to a lot of (>'!Opl.; sitting out Mr~ on tM SU'o!I)t.S and undo!f th~ bndg(oi I am not passing judavm.;nt or saYing nght or wrong I 3m just $.lYing U).lt thm Is a lot of room to Atl:llIs/ My sugg~tlon to you would N t.al:~ It off It's blocl:s. put 3 no!w foundation In and ro!hab tho! MUsv That Is W!.'llnly a chOlCt! you could mal:~, Lolav& th~ hOUS9 thm 1I0v / Why did you want to movv It Rumm9lhart/ B<<auSo? WIly did M or why did I Nov lIs It your hOus~, Do you own It Rumm"lhart/ Th9 company owns tM building. 1I0v / And WIly did you want It mov~. Rumm9lhart! I was hoping to g9t It mov~ W<3US9 tM only opuon th3t th& Ins~Uon m throwing at m9 art! to d~U'oy It That Is my only. Larsonl Or rehab It or bring It up to code Rummelhartl Corr~t. I could have dono) that at OM point Ambr I John, did you \I'3nt to bUild something ~lSo' on that lot Was Ulat tho! Ido!a of buying It. Rummelhart! It Is a fairly larg& parcel and thiS IS a small hOUS&, No on& has IIv~ In for som~tlm& and thm again. I don't want to ma\:& a point of this s~lfjc pfobl~m, It Is mor& of a 8&nml frustraUon that Mr& IS another building. Mayw SOm&thlng could havo) w~n dOM. I don't I:now If It Is ~rnaps a coordination problvm Horow/I dl$.lgr* with you, Ithln~ this (Ity lIas ~nough ag~nclvs and ~nough ~oplo;o Ulat ar~ \\'OrY.tng In r~hablllt.aUng (<,r!.'llnly HACAP has put and 5t. Thomas Moor!! and a numbl:r of various groups ar& doing UIIs right now Th& word IS out. If th~r~ Is a hOUS& that can ~ found and can b& r<<hal>l>o!d that thvro! IS church groups Wllllflg to wvr~ on It. Rummelhart/ Right. It Is not always Thm again It IS d&~nrjlng upon wh&r& Ul~ butldmg IS and wh~r& It can bo! mov&d to and U19r& IS a lot of factors to consld~r but I gu.;ss What I am lust trytng to bring to n n n LI LI - - - ,I , .5 p-Jg"l II light IS hm ~ hJ\'~ tMr~ IS th~ bUilding Ins~Uon ,j~paruMnt d~lng th~lr lot; And mor~ powo:r to tho:m anoj th~y do do, ~ S,x'>d lOb But lh~ mlndsH IS hH~ IS ~ building th~tls ol:ay TMy 1001: at th~ t.;.jk, not up to codot, bvom. do ~m"thlng ~I.\o,utll ~nd Ulatls tlM I am gOing to go out and do What IllaY~ to do Init"aJ iiI pc>.>Ibly haVing ~m~ OthH sugg~suons or Idm Eo;> It lor th~m hJVlng m\iril Inlormatlon to mayoo ~mo) 01 tho) otho)r ag~nct<'s 01 saYing My by tM way HACAP IS 1001:lng lor a hoUSil TIl':y Mppo:n to hm a lot H blo.:l:s away Would you consltj~r wanting to may~ trying to gilttM Ullng mov~ Or no, It is not "'MUI gtilllng th,~ Uung mov~ McDI JOhn AU:lnsl Plmil k*p In mln,j Ulat Wi! wvro) prvSi!nW WlUI thiS tssu~ Wh"n Wv hm an IndiVidual Who has got It up on blo.:ks and about to movo) It. J think all thil coordination In thil wvrld MVilr w",uld hm suc,:~od~ In thiS \>3rUcu!ar tnsbnc(o lIo.....11 th(o IndiVidual Who own~ lh(o Mus\' did In lact want to do all th~ things that you ar"! talking about. I can assur~ you thm art' plo:nty 01 ago:nct~ out thm Wil had dts<ovmd that this was undvr way and stopl*1 It. That make., a big dtllmnc~, I think tl th~ Individual want.:d a housv rvhabboid or S(avvng~ In ~m~ way, Wv hm a vvry succvsslul ~llort at that. I don't think thm Is any doubt that WY can amngi! that II WY "",'&.{ had known iii ;"_1 S~vv II:now somo) dmlopo:rs tn th~ 135'. a.9 months hm conlacW you saying I want ~, dliV(olop UIIS propo:rty In a dtllmnt way thiln It Is currvntly and I want to mov~ a Muso), do y"'u hm Idoas, Hav,~ wv bo:\ln succvsslul at Mlplng somOOM Who wants to gtyv thli CIty a hOusv, To M ablo) to movo ~nd rillo.:ato th(om, AU:lnsl As lar as moving It kmn, I don'tl:now 01 any sp+:lllc clrcumsbncvs I do know that wv had a hoUSiI dO....'I\ oil DUbuquv Str*l and th~ Individual was ....'l1lng and \~.:.to go through that pro.:~s 01 having It movw II M ~ould glv~ It to us Wr: couldn't Hnd anyoM who was lIItol'~st.:d tn H~ gm us a rvasonJblQ amount 01 Um~ $<) It Is not hk~ W'J don't try to do thos.: things I thlnl: that In thiS coso) Ulat tho) houso) ....'as In such a Mrnblo) condlllon that w.: (~rtalnly couldn't r('((lmm"n<I lIov II know 01 anothvr tnstanc~ wh~rv a d~vvlopvr wantw to mov.; a !\os,) and want.:d to put up mulU lamlly unIts and tho) Hlst(>rtc Pr~s Frto)nds m workIng 'filth him to hnd a 1000aUon 10 b~ sur" to prQ~vrvo) that !\oust) aM as lar as I I:now It IS lust a mall~r 01 saving a MUSt) and J>'}opl,) m trYing - - "............--- - ... --.. ..,............... ....,.......... - --~ ~._-_._- ~-- 'nOOLIS - · 5 p3gt 12 I I I I I i I ! Rummo?lhatll Just OM oUI~r point t-:ms~ I d.;.n't ""Jnt to bUln up any mor~ UrM Is on (vnlldmUon f'('lhap! tIlm IS s<>mo? lI~lQblllty as tar as how tM ((ilj~ r"Jds ,15 far as potvnUJIlY old,r h'jmos that m gvtting movid. To my (umnt undmUndlng, I could t~ off on thiS, th~ mlnut" that t:\lstmg t'ulldlng gHS rMv~ tJ) anothvr location, hm agam lIylng to k*p In mind ~th3ps smgmg an oldo?r bulldmg TrYing l/) kHp mayoo s.)m~J>>jy go?tUng Inl/) Ihat bUlldlllg at tilt low~t (ost posSlbl;. That bUilding has got tJ) 00 (.jtJlly brought up to cumnt coM If It IS an old~r homo? but you m looking at a hOUS9 that In OM mlnlJt(o Ihat hadn't ~n InovM ~'3s okay and quOlt> rolaUvtly iJft, haVing II) ~ar alllht plumbmg out and alllht "I\to:trleal out and I don't know What vIs. out to gvt bael: up to tho? MW eod(o l:ubby IMaybt WhE-n ~ look at rmmplng our eod~ In I1ght of atrordablo? housing Ihatlhat could 00 5"mo?thlng looktd at and W~ may d~tdo that that Is not apprOprl3lt> bUlthat should 00 Ion tM I1sl of things to txplort, Nov / Anothor mnUt you might oxploro It you aro at tho point Whm you art d~ptra~ Is l/) salvagttht ma~nals to 00 usod to rthab s<>miWhort .I~. ~auSt tht city Is Intms~ In using somt oldor mawrlals tn may InstJneiS, Rummolhart/ If I am not mhtakon Ithinl: Pam ~rMS was " Ilov / SM Is tho ono I am thinking of, MeD/ Thank you, John, Is thm anyont &15(0"" .....--- --~--- - - ............- l' '-.-, -------....--.-...........-~ ~ .. ~--....- .........,....-- --- ---...- -~- - ~---- ---- - ~~------ n rl n LI h - - - - Agondo 10wI Clly City Council Regular Council Mootlno Novtmbor 12, 1991 Pogo 9 ITEM NO, e. ~) I~I ~vb ~ IJ ~ # tV~ CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS. . o. Consldor Ippo!nlmonls to tho Hlllorlc PrOlorvlllon Ccmmll' sJon: III For I roprolOntollvt 01 tho 8l1M1lt 811001 Dllllltt lor on lIlOxp/tod lorm ondinQ March 28, 1882. (Oovld Jop..n roslgnod.1 ACllon: "rW Abu' t 'a~,ttl....a...!l:. (21 For In lIlOxplrod torm ondinQ May 29, 1893, (Jlmos Ochs rosJgnod,1 Action: AtJ ~, 1109 .I111l.JtJ' --II-. b. ConsJdor oppo!ntmonllto tho HumIn Rights COfnml.slon to IIn tlvoo vlconclos lor tIvOO'YOII torms ondlng Jonuary I. 1985. !Torm. 01 Joson Chon, Frod MImi. .nd TOllY PowolI ond,1 ACIJon: . (}a4''; .""wZl~ If 3'1 .(1 c, Consldor on Ippo!ntmontto tho Boord 01 Adjultmont lor I IIvo'YOII torm ondlng Jonuory I, 1997. (JoII BOliO" torm ond..1 ACllon: AI.tflI- 9# l"tv JJwSI l{N'dl A7t.J - -.. .' I ,~-- ..r ~ ~ - - ~- ~ _....~........-. - ,--- - ~ ----.... CI Ct 0' LI ,-, Agonda Iowa CIty CIty Council Rogular Council MootIng Novombor 12, 1991 Pogo 10 , I d, Cons/dor an appolntmont 10 tho Pifko and Roellotlon Comml.- lion to fiUtwo vlc.nclol 101 lOUf'VO" torm. ondlng JOIlUlIy I, 1996, (Torm. 01 Wdll.m Stolnbloeh ond Doryl Horvy ond,) ITEM NO.7. Action: ~ 6/'11"11,,) I.~ 11IJ.i(t.~ uJ I~II CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION, ~A 1&1 tL-of,,(~' tM t. AuI&~3nkl 'II .!tv ylrtIJ ..,..'n.....c____. ITEM NO.8. REPORT ON ITEMS FROM THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY. 0, CIty Managor, -I) . b. City Allornoy, .d fJr11 1 #;;,-/ ;,......,...;' -..........,.,,-.. n 0 CI LI EI - -7 ~13g~ I McDI City coun(1Ilnrorm3tJon I/orowl Y.:s Illav~ t\\'o Itvms f.oUl having to ,10 \t"Ul ((Ill'~:tJ(lllS Our l~Jr pICk up WIll c~;nUuul.' unlllllo\l 30th w~ 3re- W\.rklng our dJrnw...st So g.:t U1VSo) 10).1'1':$ out UI.:ro: It you hm any qU~$l1ons as to WMUl.:r or not your ma IS gOing to t.m Ul.: 1~31 Pl(l: up tru(k. call Ul.: Dtip3rtm~nt or Public Work' on tl13t Ollv Thv uUlvr h3$ to du \t"th coll~Uc'n or t.:l~phon'? ~t.s an1 Ulm Will ~ t....,o 10(3uons. TH~C<)m lias arrang.:s With HyVw wtw*n Nov 2 and 1)(-< 2 to tato) your old ~Io?phono? ~ts. US We-st h3d mang(od With Eaglo? stom rrom Nov 26 to o.x ~ At all Eaglo? stor.:s to tak.: t.:1~phono) ~ks ThiS IS strlcUy only t(>lcphon~ Woks I has Wvnln Ulv MwsPJr*r We- WIll hm some publicity on Ule radio Tal:~ thos~ t.:lo:phon~ bool:s TMy m wing shrwd~ ror ~dlng ror an anlmalllv.:stock comPJny In MlnMsvta I:Ubby I Tw.,) Short Ullngs. I lust wantl)oj tI:llet p.:oplo? I:now Ulat w got our ~Mrgy NnSolrvauon re~rt and Ule City, tho: last llscal y~ar, sav.:d S265,OOO Ulrough ~no:rgy C<)ns~rvatlon It r~ally amaz.:s 1M. Tho: so:<ond Ullng Is, as I r~m~mbVr, I can't r~m~mwr II It was last Volts D.1y or Ule V~ts Day bYrOrti Whm a man CJm& In and got a parl:lng Ucl:vt on Ulls day and he was a voittiran He was qujt~ upset about It. I was downtown on V~ts Day and saw a lot or people wilh parking Uckets bo?<auSll city otrlm ....we clos~ and II lot or hours wm changl)oj and dllrmnt raclUU.:s so peoplo: assum(od It was a hOliday. So, our mt}t.:rs say UloiY m not oinrorc~ art&r !lve and on Sundays and on holldays. And so I don't I:now how e~nsivoi It muld bY to golt som& new plaws Ulat doirlne what wv mo?an by holidays When you tall: about plugging Ule mewrs or not plugging Ule m(ottirs. Or Whenev" Wo: buy new OMS. McDI At least start out With th& MW OMS KUbby I OVrlnlng Ulat. I Ultnk It Is only ralr W\ause p.:oplv Ullnk or vvtoirans day as a holiday and It Is and W1 m gOing to mal:e p.:opl& plug the met&rs on Ul~ Iloltday Wi! should gtvl) thl)m ralr ....'arrllng. AU:ln,/ W~ do put out a pri'" r~lm~ tI:llnrorm toil:, that W~ all) ~n(orclng th~m Don't dlJnge any holidays wMn w~ mal:& up tho?SiJ lIotW plat.:s. t:ubby I" Larson/l Ulought Wwrans Day was a city holiday Why m Wi! Uel:",ung ~Pl& It It IS a Clt,llollda, MeDI Bo?<ause Ule parl:lng department Isn't oil Courtney 18o:<auS(l Ule majority or downtown Is worl:lng and thm n~ws tI:l W &nrorc(onl&llt to I:~p Ulose parl:ing plaei!s' ~ -y-- - I' nOOLICf - · 7 P3g, z Lm~nl I:ubby I J thin\: It " an unport.3nl h.,It,jai and \\"! sh"uld not enforc'1 th~ mliu.rs and th~ p3r1ng p<~pl, Should hav, Ulvlr d3Y oft 100 CourtlliY II muld b<.gt dlftyr t<<au~~ It IS nota holiday downtown I cvuld em I,ss about tM mOMi' What ....'~ n*<llS thi' turn OVi'r Of sp..~lS That IS \o.'lly tM mc-llirs m thm to sUrt WIth l:ut'bY / SlIle, that s*ms to w th, d~lslon th~n li'ts SIV, P'~pl, a fair Warnln& TM pro:ss r.;o!.;oaS(lls gr(lat It ....'(l can do sNMUlIng lllorli I wuld prefer UI31 Lar~n/ I:ubby / Whtn SU(l W3slJlI:lng about phOM book drop ofts, \\VJ do hm OM hvri at th, Clvtc cvnloir. I don't I:now If It mattm What brand of phon~ book you hm Hvrow/ It maki'S at>solu~ly no dltlmncoi What brand of lliltphoM book you hm. McD/ nlank you. -- -r- - " I I I I I "..~--... .,................-". -.,. ~ ~- - -- ------~ - r---- - n nos 0 - - i, 1 '6b ~;'! I M~D/ City Attorno1oY Gvntry / J ~juJ.j llt~ to r~fVrt 011 1M sfJUu (1/ lll~ ll"lld~y IlIn l~r~1II In<orp Irom ((.ilu Rapids h3\'O> t*Vn gl\'~n 15 addltJonal days by tM RTC Wlllllll Whl<h to <ompl,w UIY s.Jlt UnuI131l 15 Ul'Y hav" toilldm.j svrnv <<Jln,st mon,y Jnd th, M'~ bJ~km m a group lIorn 1I0ng l:on6 Which <hO~i to rvm~ln '<<Nt IMUUMi I' now out O/ll RTC revls my <onlld<<nt that th\'r~ WIll bo: <onsurnrn3Uon 01 tht salt. You IOt)1: v,ry Sl:tpucal.lohn .. l.ar~n/ I am ~jnd~llng how mU<h 01 ^m~fI(a 'IN art gOing to s~1I to Ivrvlgn inv~tors bo:lort ...."> do S<lm~thtllg about r~jmllly.al rn3ttl?rs ~ntry / ~n't answ.:r th3l M<D/ Thanl: you. ........ I' I I \ ..,...............--..r ----------..----..-..~ ~- [I 0 0 S . I Agondo Iowa City City Council Rogulor Council MooUng Novombo, 12, 1991 Pogo II ITEM NO.9. PUBLIC HEARING ON PLANS, SPfC1F1CA nONS, FORM OF CONTRACT ANO ESnMATE OF COlT FOR THE CONSTRUcnON OF THE WAY. mE STREET SANITARY SEWER REPAIR PROJECT. COfnmont: TNs proJott wiD abandon a collapsed pottlon 01 the sanllory sawo, lino ond roroutatho now to the Rive, Corridor InlOrtOptor SoWII. Tho onglnoor'a olUmola 01 COlt II '41,299.00, AcUon: b.e nil) Il/.lwJ/J~,p If ITEM NO. 10 . ..2.,. .JVo CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING PLANS, SPfCIFlCATIONS, FORM OF CONTRACT, AND ESTIMATE OF COST FOR THE CONSTRUCt nON OF THE LAFAYme ITRm SANITARY SEWER REPAIR PROJECT, ESTABLISHING AMOUNT OF BID SECURITY TO ACCOMPA. NY EACH BID, OIREcnNG CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH ADVERTISEMENT FOR BIDS AND FIXING nME AND PLACE FOR RECEIPT OF BIDS AT 10:30 A.M. ON NOVEMBER 25.1881. COfnmont: SOl COInmont obove, ACllon: /hx{,/ /hI/) I ' 1!#' ~.ItlU t ITEM NO, 11. ~ CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN MMS , CONSULTANTS OF IOWA CITY,IOWA AND THE CITY OF IOWA CITY FOR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THE SOUTH SYCAMORE TRUNK 6EWER PROJECT. Commonl: Tho Soulh SYClmO/o Trunk Sowor 10rvlco 1101 Includol opproxlmltoly 510 ocrol gonolllly locolod loulh 01 oxllllng dovolop. mont odjocont to Sycomoro Stroot, Plolimlnary pr%ct com oro olllmotod to bo mo,ooo.oo, Tho nogOllolod 100 101 onglnoorlng IOrvlCOlls 159,700.00, All project CO", 010 to bo ,ocovoTod through I tap.on 100, Publlo Workl rocommondl opprovll 01 this rOlolutlon, ACllon: 4oU~'1t511J1II!J .ltt/ l#tlt) I II~UI ~ A1'~/'r "ll' " .......---- ---- T-- - - - -~.... ,\ , - - I I I I I I i I ,I ....- ~ .... ,- -- .,..... . . ~- -.,. ~ ---...---_.~ n rl rl (, ,:r - - - - - I' -II pag~ I M~DI Mov~ by urson, !oKcnJi'j by Arnbr I,) a,jopl 1M r~~oluUon DIS(usston H<Jrow/ls thv n(ioUalf.-d 1* lor ~ngtMvrtng smlM part 01 UI': pr.:llmtnary proltiClf.-d cost, or tn addlUon to tllY prvllmsnJrY prolvct.;..j (ost? s.:hma,M:e/ll's part 01 Ul.: total CO$t Horow I Tllanl: you N,)v I And I thought at som~ ~lOt ,;,',: ojO:<:IIj~:l tr., walt t.-!I<lre ""',: voto?o:l on 1I11S until '^'~ s* wltat Ul.: r~t 01 Ul': t'udg,:tlS gOUlg to 1n<lu,j,: llv:<t yo?ar, !.lcDI 011 What? \lov / On tM ,::':panSlon 01 1M city sWvr Ambr / W~ didn't tJll: about that 1I0v / W~ did Y.ubby / Yvs Wv did McD/ TM final d~lston \lr.lS golOg to w marjv as to wMU1~r ",'v sM'Jld pro<:~ willi Ul,: prolo:<:t at Ulatllm~, r.OfTo:o<t? Chuc\: s.:hmadvl:e/ WMUl~r to c,)nstruct tho? prol~t That 1M d-:stgn !.Iy undmt.andlng was Ulat UI>) dvslgn was to continuo? nw McD/ But wv wm not gOing to add.w~ ....~rvn't going aMad and put th~ projtiCt In. Lar~n/ That wasn't my undmtJndlng but I can undmtJnd that that might hm bnn the undHstandlng, Kubby / This thing that we m voting on Is a contract both for d~slgn anrJ svrvlc~, nght. s.:hmadel:e/ Up to construction McD/ For d~lgn, \lov / Part of this Is ~stimating th.: cost 01 construction II Wi! m going to g.:t to th~ point 01 construction Ulr~ ymi Irom now, tMt Ii all going to hm to w ri!doM, SChmad.:l:e/ Just add In an Inflation lac tor Is all that would w ntiCi-ss.1ry tlov / And WMro? Is tho? S56.OOO going to com': Irom, Schmadtil:&/lt would 00 part of our Svwtir revenu~ tlov / We hav.: It sitting In the bani: at this m,)ment, AU:lns/ We have a s>),^~r Improvement re~rv(t that you had to set astd.: at the time of construction or at the tim>) that we were dOing the sanltJry s(tw&r proj~l W~ would prob.lbly draw It out 01 that account and tMn w~ ar~ obligating to I:o!o!p It at a certJln Iml Wit woul<l navi' to replac~ thOSit funds at tho) timv you procitoo with thit prolV<t II you choose not to go with thv prol~t you still have an obligation to repay U1OSo? monlvs Lars,)n/ How long dM It takit to do thv d~lgn work ,............- .".. - . . - -~ --.... - nnn~,:, - - - - III pa~'i 2 s.:hmalj~I:(I/ I thUlI: Ulm IS at-,ut140 ,jays tolJllQr th~ pr~hmlnary and lInal d'islgn urson/ S<> 1/ W~ don't d? It ulltJl t>udgH d~ltboirJtJons W~ Mv~ got Ulr~ months on to F~b f.lcO/ This IS Why I thought Illat Wv had agrvvd to do Illl. p.ut of It bY<au.. I (an r~rn~mwr again 1ll3l \or'Mn W~ wm tall:lng that night that W~ had Ul~ conv~rsaUon on Ulat P;lIUcular tract of land on Sycamor~ I can rlim~m\:>olr Chu(l: ~IUng us Woi wvr~ trYing to d~ld~ WhiCh way ""'i/ .....~r~ gOing to go as lar as Mlng abl~ to r~vl~w th~ wvtlands In th~ arila As to th~ slJpulaUon on UIIS parUcular Iract 01 land I h'ffiilmoor him tillllng us thH II wv did nothing thiln b<~USil 01 th~ mr\: up that has to boi dOM Mor,;. any ty~ 01 Uno: Is put In that w,;. muldn't w talking abOut Mlrt ym and that ""'';' muld w ta\l:lng about thi! 101l0....'n8 Yi/ar lIoy / but ....~ also said Illat wv wantild t.) look at our C IP budgvt for Ulil Mi:t thr~ y~!rs and thm aoouts. MeD/ Wi/ ....'(>r~ told that wv muld hm Um>? to do that Larson/I gU(o$s I lust thlnl: Ulat If Wo) spoint S60,OOO now on thil dO:Slgn that th~ odds 01 turning It down In Filb. or March 3f(o priltty small MeO/lthln\: that a lot 01 It has to do WlUlthil ty~ of InlormaUon that WiI gilt bacl: Irom th9 rvvl,;.w 01 that particular arila, ~aus& that Will InyolY& part 01 this sam~ discussion as lar as r&YlvWlng th~ .....~U3nds In that arila. Larson/ Chuck's saying that CHAllGE TAPETO REEL 9 t-a2 SIDE I Larson/ arillnundat~ by thilS& budgvt busUors that, I want him to 1001: at thi/m all togilthH and dt'(ldil Which OMS m th& prlontlvs Now I don't know II s~ndlng tvn po:mnt 01 tM prol~t cost now would glY') thiS a l~ up or Is appropna~, but thvn again I don't I:now II Ullt Yloll~S any pa(ts wv madt' With tM dmlo~r on our tJmlng of this thing, but I did not I:now Wi! had to ili.'PiInd this mono:y now In ordilr to mal:iI a d~tslon on It at budgilt lImv Am I UIO only on~ that mlssM that. Nov /110, AU:lns/ Wi! mlly don't hm to You could cMsl) not to do thiS work. It lust movos ov&rythlng back Lm~nl What Is \M down WliI 01 that Ati:lns/ A construction silason WIng mlss~ ------~ - r'" - - -..... " , ~--.-........,.~ ~... .,................ """"r"-------...-~--- -~-------- ------- - - . rt 0 Cf S LI - · II ~')g~ 5 $(hrn3d~I:~/ It ....1)Uld rnQv~ th~ d~v~lvP'1r l\lcl: anQUI~r Y~Jr all') ~.) h~ WUldn't t.} able to .j,;.vo;.IOP thiS M:\t sumrno;.r In th31 ar",J AU;tns/ But YOUI ass~ssm,ntls <~'rr.:.:t Thm IS an ,I,mo;.nt olllnanml nsl: In tM s.im 01 sJ:-indln& th... mon...y I .....,juld thin}: that at s~'mil urn... In tho lutur" you 3rt gOing to do UIIS prOIv.:t any....'3, Ursvn/ $-jm':Um~ In th~ Mxt 10.20 yms that ....''1 m gQtng to do this prol.:.:t AU:lns/ An<:l you WIll hm th~ d~llgn Courtn~y/ W~ M,j d~ooW pr~vl',uSI>' th~ o?ltmo:nlS 01 f1n3nml nsl: on this and tho malorlty o;.l\<t.xIto go WIth th...lInanctal rISk llov/ It IS lust that .....Of did not d~ldo;. to go ....'thlt thiS ym and thm arv $Om~ 01 us Who m conwn<-d al:>out walUng and looking at out lInJnCt31 ptctur,} In t"rms 01 otho;.r captUIlmprovo;.mo;.nts 3n<:l s'Itung ~mo! prlortU...s at that um~ If ~ m gOing ~l dO that'lt 5o:fmS to m~ !.at you ......~uld (onSlluct s...wm thiS ym olUl~r way S(l1mado!k~/ lItxt surnmo:r IS What....'} had anUclp3to:.J Sol th.,. dmlo~r (ould priX~ ....'UI hiS dtVOloprn,nt thiS Wlnt...r an,j UI...n stJrt CQnstru<UOn this surnm.;.r as .....0;.11 /.fcD/ It ~ agr* at budgtt Um~ to priXm But ,^'i did agrVo't ~l pr~~ WlUI tht di'slgn. Larsonl What you ari' saying Chuck IS b\o(ausi thi' di'slgn IS conungent mainly u~n topography, It isn't gOing to ch3ng~ b-itw*n now unltl 10.20 yms (rom now 'my rnuch S<hmadvl:tl That IS correct Larsonl And that II Wt m mr gOing to dO'/olop tilt aroa ....~ no1V'J tilt dvstgn Wt)rk dOM. That this doosn'llor(o\loso thv cMnc& th3t II wv dYCtdoi ~t budg.t Um.; that this Is lust not a priOrity quit.; y.;t, Wh.lh.r that mlssn a smon lor tM dmlo~r or nOl, that thm m othvr priontii'S. Courtn~yl Mol thero:- othi'! svwvr prol~ts that art b-ilng Ulkw al:>out at budg-:-t Um~ Uta! Wt piCk and r.hos~ AU:lns/ S3n1t.1ry s~w~r.l don't ro:.:oll~t any major OMS, Chuck S<hmadaW TM only OM In Ult nm luturv IS a I 0 In~h plp.t that IS out along W(1tWlnds Drtvv TM do;.v.;oloprnont 01 GallW'JY conllnu,:s SVUUl UI3l WIll hay,; to b-i uP2radtXI Courtnity/ I am not qUltv sur. that sinei' thiS ~omvs out 01 Ulv SioWvr lunds how It CJn Impact th~ r~.t vf th.;o budg~t If UlIS IS 1M only Atklns/ TM di'Stgn. All 01 thv mOnio;.s (or this prol~t m S9Wi-r rmnUitS It Is not a dlr~t aU(o\t on your tax ii/tUng poll~ln It IS just Si/....W rmllu*. Sam", p..xl:itt That IS why that who;.n you hayit UliJ So.i\<,W -....--- - -- 'T-"---- - -- " I -_.--.,.-,-...........---.. ".,................. -......,...._._~---....-------- --~ -----.-- ---,.. --- - - --- --,-- - - ~ --- 000 S S -II N.H l' Imrr,jv,m,nt r...l~rV~, UI;r<' IS mon~'l s...t m1~ I,:,r tM PUIf':1+ '" ~"T"n~lns tM 'yst.,," ~n.J tlut IS Fl3rt 01 th+ wl101~ oon,j COUlttl<-y / ThiS IS PJtt 01 1M vnt~rpm(o lund nvt tM GO t.l:( rooMY At1:lni/ YYi and you ,"ua />>Y It l'3d~ McO/ AnY othvr qUf$llOnS on lhlS Th3n~ you, Chucl: At1:lns/ ChUCk, ~Ior" you lUV" I do r.xoll.xt thU th. up on IfN. lh3l 3ft wing g...nmt(.,j ImmwI3My by lh& Fran: prol~t m a....1ully clos+ to COYHtng th~ d~tgn cost fight up front Ilhlnl: that Ul'ir~ IS an Imm~la~ mh that com", we\: to you So you 3ft mlnlmt:lng your flSl: S<hmad(ol:~/ About H55,000 tor 33acrf's I:ubby / If ~ agr* to do construction d'~s lhls amount go Into'WlIl Wf' nm! to pay UlIS all at one~ At1:InS/ Thll WI1ol~ 156.000 Y(oS Y.Ubby/ rio, Th~ ~570.000 Atklns/Y~ You wvuld 11m to pay Ul+ contmtor to do tM ....",rl: ml say a ~rlod of ftK months. Y.Ubby / That m&ans an tmm(.jrat.> lump In rat.:s to (om that Atklns/ /lot n(";(oSsarlly. You don'll:now WI13llh& Llp on $(Mdul~ IS gOing to toy coming wc\:, Wh3ll:ind of int(.rn31 tlnanctng W~ might chO<>Si to do, To Iml all 01 Ulat out. W~ 11m 15 million tn S......if rmnUiS. It IS probably SOm~thlng !(oSS Ulan I~ Thalli assuming Ul3t you hm no cash What so ,Vir In Ul~ prOI~l McDI AllY OU1<Ol dls.:ussion, Roll call. Tilt r*luUon Is odopW. (I:ubby yoUng no) n rl 0 ~, b - - Agondo lowo City City Countll RogulOl Council Moollno Novombor 12, 1991 Pogo 12 ,I I ITEM NO. 12. . qt- .m RESOLUTION amiNO A DATE FOR A PU8L1C HEARINO ON THE PROPOSITION TO EXPAND THE PURPOSE OF THE 1889 OENERAL OBLlOATION 1001 80ND ISSUE (FOR AN ESSENTIAL CORPORATE PURPOSEI AND PROVIDING FOR PU6L1CATlON NOTICE THEREOF. COfnmont: ThI1 ROlolullon 1011 . public hoorlno on Novombor 28, 1991,to rocolvo 0/01 0/ wrlnon COfnmontl IrOfn Iny lIs1dlnt 0/ PloPGrty owner rogardlng ox~nding tho purPOIO 01 lho 19S9 Q,O, Bond 111110 lor on OIlonllll COIPO/olO purposo ond .ulhorllOltho City Clork to publish tho notlco thorool. Tho City Councll.doPlod . ROlolutlon on Ooclmbor 12, 1989, oUlh0/1zlno ond PlovIdlno 10/ tho IlIuorco 01 f2,980.ooo Qonorol Obligation Bond. .nd lovylno . tOll to pOV uld bondi, Tho Bonton Suoot Blldgo Plo)oct, one 01 tho PlOloclllncludod In tho 1989 Q,O. Bond IIIUO, roqu/rod lowor Bond Plocoodllllln orlglnlUy onllclpat. od, tho Clly cutlontly 11I1 opp/odmotoly 11,300.000 01 Plocoodl Ivolloblo IrOfn Iho Bondi which moy bo Utill,Od 10/ olhor ollontlol purposOl 01 tho City, SloII rOCOfnmondl tllltlho City Council o.pand tho purPOIO 01 tho 1988 Bondi to poy cost. 01 COMtlUCllno 111001 ond unltory lowor Improvomont., ..sonllol cO/poIalo purPOIOI, Tho Kirkwood Avonuo roconstrucllon pro)oct would bo tho rocOfnmondod ItrOOt Plojoct, .t .n oltlmotod cost 01 11,3 millIon, to bo IlIIdod IrOfn tho ".3 million ovolloblo IIOfn lho 1989 Q,O, Bond 'lillO, Wo IIIvo oddod tho unllory lowor ImPlovomontl purpose 01. lollbock only litho City COMOt ulllllO tho lull II ,3 million by Docombor 01 1882. Tho 1989 Q,O, Bond procoodl must bo IPGnt by Docombor 1992 to .vold Irbltrogo rogulatlonl. (Soo tho rOpolt 10/ . mO/o dOlollod oxplolllUon,1 ACllon: J11f~/ ~(" ITEM NO. 13. q/.J'J.\ -If,tt~ RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF CONSOLIDATED ANNUAL CONTRIBUTIONS CONTRACT IKC8033E, PROJECT NO.IA OIH022. 016 % Commont: Tho ConsolldolOd AMuol Conlrlbutlonl Conlroct covorlng tho 4B2 unltl 01 Soctlon 8 Exllllng Housing hos boon IrcrOllod to 802 to Includo twonlV oddltlonal unllllrom tho oppllcollon lublnlnod In July 1981, Tho mOlllmum onnual conUlbullons amount will bo Introolod by f12I,968,OO to 0 tolol 0111.867,227. Action: .4'1111/ //,fIJ .t.1'~ i(r4,1 ~/J..~,d % ITEM NO, 14 . ADJOURNM~ flM4W / #tt~ ~/J ttC.f ,AJ ?:,Hr I'" n Ct Ct ~, .-, - , I . I ~ pJg~ I M.;DI M"v~ by Ambr, !~:ond~:1 by Horow to adopt Ul~ r~;')luUon Dls<usston l:ubby 1 TII3nk you tor Mlng Mr~ Ron McDI Roll call. TM r~soluUon IS 3dopt~ , i I "..- - ... .. ,~...... ...,.-- - - - - - -- -- - nrtnSFI - - - - City of Iowa City MEMORANDUM Olio: Novtlltor 7, 1891 To: cay CoundI From: Clly Ml/IIOOr At: WOItl60sslon Agond.u ond Mooting Schoclllo Novtlltor II, 1891 vmRANS' DAY HOUDAY . CITY OFFICES CLOSED No CouncI WOIk 60ukln Novtlltor 12, 1891 TuoS(Uy MOIWY 8:30 . 7:30 PM COutU Work Sosslon 8:30 PM . RI'Ilow Zoning Monors 7:10 PM . COuncl Agendo, Councl Tlmo, Councl Corrmfttoo Ropo~1 7:20 PM . Conlldor eppolrtnontl to tho Hlstor1o PrololVollon Coll11llsllon, Human RJgIQ Convrisllon. BoIId 01 Ad;Jllmont ond Pollll ond ROCIOItlon ConvrisIIM 7:30 PM Regular COuncl Mooting: COuncl Chombors Nov.mber 13, IGGI 5:OOPM.~ 1/"".11""" a-,,,,~ I)./,~, IUJt.. Mooting 0111Io CRy Cor1oronco Bolld . Agenda POltod November ID, tDDI 8:30 . 8:30 PM COuncl Work Sosslon . Councl Chll1'bors Agenda Pondlng Novomber 25, IDDI Monelly Wodnosday Tuosday do . 8:30 P.M. . COuncl Work SOlllon . Councl Chll1'bors Agonda Pondlng Novomber 20, t gg I Tuosday 7:30 PM . Regulor Councl Mooting. Councl Chambors fI.!m1Il1W StOrmNotOl Managomont Rovlew SoIoslSollcJtatlon on CIIy Ploza Clgorouo OrdlnancOI Appointment to tho DOllgn Rovlew Commlttoo . Novorrbor 28. 1001 Appointment. 10 tho Btoadband Tolocof1mJnlClIlIon. Commllllon. Oocombor 10. 1091 ~---~~ -r- - l'