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Home My WebLink About1992-01-07 Agenda I I '''. -'-'. . " - n n .-, Ell .\ ! IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL AGENDA REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF JANUARY 7,1992 7:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CIVIC CENTER 410 EAST WASHINGTON I I I -: , i \ , , , j , , i , ...,. ,.- . .. - . ... - -.. - . - n n .-, \ cl ITEM NO.1. ITEM NO.2. mMNO.3. ITEM NO.4. AGENDA IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. JANUARY 7.1992 7:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBERS A!A.;.., Iht; ~1 ;&"/(r (..v 7~~.v ,I . , CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL. SPECIAL PRESENTATION ~ \'IteU":! (u.uv I, "'o..nlotlon 10 1110 Chy Council 011110 1891 HOIp/co AWOId. MAYOR'S' PROCLAMATIONS, I. Wook 01 Roconcmallon. JallU4ry 13,20, 1992, b, Mallin LUllIor KIng, Jr, Rocoonlllon Day. January 20. 1992. CONSIDER ADOPTION 01' THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED OR AM~NDED, I, Consldll approval 01 Olllclal Council aCllona 011110 IIgular moo ling 01 Docomborl0. 1991, ond 1110 apoclol mOiling 01 Docombor 18. 1291, II publllhod, aublocllO cOIrocllona, oa rocommondod by 1110 Clly Clork, b, MinulII 01 Boarda ond Commlulona, 111 HIli 0110 "'ololVallon Commlulon moollng 01 OClobor S,1891, 121 Planning ond Zoning Commllllon mooting 01 Docom. bor 5, 1891. 131 Commlnoo on CommunllY Nooda mooting 01 Novom. bor19,1991, 141 Alrporl Commlulon mooting 01 Novombor19, 1991, 15) Pa,k. and Racroatlon Commission maollng 01 Novom. bar 13, 1991. 10) Parka and Rocrootlon Commission apoclal mooling 01 Docombor4,1991, 171 Parks and Rocrootlon Commission mooling 01 Docom. bar 11, 1991. IS) Board 0' Library T,ulloos mooting 0' Docombor 19, 1991. "'-~-,-~"""""....----r"'-----"'--""-""~~-""'-- - - -."........------------~- .-.--.,.-----~,---.-...--- -- .,.------ .......---~- ~ ,---.- -nnE'O Agonda 10wI Clly CIIY Council Rogular Council Mooting JallU4ry 7, 1992 Page 2 191 Rlvorlronl Ind NalUlII Ar... Commllslon moellng 01 Docomborl8, 1991. c, pormll MOllonl .. Rocommondod by 1110 Clly Clork, 111 Consldor I motion approving I CIIII '8.l14or pormlt 101 Micllool E. Hodge dba Soothlno Lloodry, 218 E, Markot SUOOl. lRonowl1I 121 ConIldo, I motion Ipprovlng I CIIII .C 'Uquor L1contO 101 around Round, lno. dba a,oood Roood, 830 S. Rlvorlldo Dr. INowl 131 Consldor a motion approving I CIIII .C. Uquet U. con.o let 1M Ho ShiM dba Aoolho ROIIIUllnl. 624 S, Qilbon St, IRooowl1I 141 Consldor a motion IPprovlng I CIIII .C. UquOl Licon.. 101 000 POOl Studont, lno" dba Ono.Eyod Jako'I, 18.20 S. Cllnlon. IRonowall d, SOiling Publlo HOIllngl. 111 Consldor lonlng I publiC hoa,lng lor January 21, 1992, on tho Clty'l proposod Community Bulldor Plan, Commont: Tho proparallon 01 0 Community Bulldor Plon will provldo lowi City with bonus point. whon Ipplylng lor I varloty 01 1I0tl financlol mlltanoo proorams. Thl purposo 01 tho Plan Is to havo commu. nltlo. dovolop I dlta bm ollnlOlmollon on varlou. componontl olthl community and to oltablllh I plan which odd,olSOlthoso componont.. Public Input I. requlrod and any commonll rocolvod must bo ad. drouod In tho final Community Bulldor Plan. 'iJ-/ o. Resolullons. 11I Con sidor 0 rosolutlon accepting Ihe wo,k 'or the conslluctlon ollhl Pollullon Control Storagl Building Proloct. Commont: 500 attachod Englnoer's Roport. ...... , ,\ , r-- - . , . . - n n E' 'I Agonda Iowa City Clly Counoll R.gular Council M.oUng January 7, 1992 Pag. 3 ,\ I I. COtrospondonoo. 111 Momorlndl Irom Ihl T'lllic EnglnoorlOglrding: lal SlOP Ilgn Inlllllallon on Frontago Ro.d It Wa,dway Plaza Iccon.l. Ibl Parking prohlblUons In Ihl cul.do'lIo In tho 600 block 01 South Lucu Suoot. 121 NOllco 01 purcNIO 01 Oqu/pmont Irom tho F1nanol Dopallmonl. Thllll plac.d on tho Igond. In ICCOt. danco with 1101. law. 131 Momoranda Irom tho CIvil SOMCI Commllllon lub- milling cortlllld 1111I 01 Ippllcanll 101 tho loIlowlng poslUon.: III PoIlco UoulOnantlPoIlcl. (bl Nolghbo,hood SOMCOI Coordlnalor/Ptonnlng ond CommunllV Dovolopmont. (cl Pa,klng Enlorcomont AllondanllPorklng. (dl Account Clo,k/TrOOlury, (II AssoclllO PlaMor/Ptlnnlng ond Community Dovolopm.nl. III Assocllt. Plannor/Plannlng ond Communlly Dovolopmont. Igl Community So,vlc. OlllcorlPollco. (hi CoshlorlTrOlSury. (/I Mass Transit OparatorlTra"sll. iii Molnlonanca WorkorlllTrafflo Englnaorlng. (kl Dlspalchor/PoIlCI. (/I Coshlor/Parklng. g. Appllcallons lor City Plaza Usa Parmlll. III AppllcaUon from Lalln Amorlcon Humon RlghlS Advocacy Canlor 10 lOt up a labia on Clly Plaza during Iho porlod 01 Dacambar 10,16, 1991, from which to dlllrlbUlo 1I10,aturo and ollor crolls lor donaUons. (approvadl (2) Appllcollon 'rom Jocquollno Ohorlh 10 lot up a tabla on City Plaza to solicit donoUons lor lho Support 01 MIYI Sloson, during Iho porlod 0' Docombor 10,14, 1991. lapprovodl ,-..,.--,-- ! i I I , i I I I I I I I I i I , ! t -----.- , , - n ,-, E' e " I Agonda 10wI City City Council Ragular Council Mooling Jlnuary 7, 1992 P~go 4 131 Appllcalion Irom Billy Howoll.Slnnard to lot up lIable on City Plaro Irom which to dlltrlbulO 1I10101uro on Docombor 26,27, 1991. lopprovedl AI/Ii / j!..,1J ~ flfu,d,L Jo, ,1';;'/ /hili END OF CONSENT CAL NDAR % ITEM NO. S. PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS. a. Public hoollng on on ordinanco omondlng tho Zoning Ordl. nonoo by changing tho land use rogulolions 01 cortoln proporlY known litho Idyll wild Iract 000 locIlOd louth 01 Foslor Road, nOlth 01 Tall Spoodway, WOII 01 Parkvfow Evangollcel Frol Church, and 011I 01 an unnamed SlrOOI 'rom RS.& 10 RH. IZ.91081 Aclion: Commont: At Its Novombor 21, 1991, mOIling, by 0 voto 01 8.0, thl PlaMlng and Zoning Commission rocommondod ogalnlttho Clty.lnltlolod proposal to downzono tho Idyllwlld trocllrom RS.&, Modlum Donslty Slnglo.Famlly Rosldonllal, to RS.S, Low Donslty Slnglo.Famlly Rosldonllol. This rocomme~' dOllon II not conllllont with tho III"'a ,ocommondallon Includod In thl momorondum dalod OClobor17, 1991. COIIO' Ipondoncllrom Ihl propolly ownor ond nolghborlng proporty ownoll concornlng lho rozonlng proposal Is Includod In the Council packot. ,&P ~lt.I ~'/ft;".e)jJ,/i. (f .sJ , b. {}1('l-l-tM"~~ Public hoorlng on on ordlnanco amondlno Iho Zoning Ordl. nanco by changing tho use rogulallons 01 an approxlmatl 20.8 Icro IlOct 01 land locolod sOUlh 01 Foslor Road, north 01 Tolt SpoodwlY, WOlt 01 Pa,kvlow Evongollcal Froo Church, ond 011I olIn unnamod slrootlrom RS.8 to OPDH.8, a prallmlnary plannad dovolopmonl housing IPOHI pion lor Idyll wild Condo. mlnlums, Iowa City, Iowa. (Z.9104 and 5.9111) Commont: At III Novombar 21. 1991, moollng, by a voto 01 6.0, Iho Planning ond Zoning Commission rocommondod approval 0' I proposal submlllod by Idyllwlld, Ino. lor 0 prollmlnory plannod dovolopmont pion known as Idyllwlld Condominiums, a 1 04.unlt, rosldontlal dovolopmontlocalod on Iho Idyll wild tracl. Tho Commission's roc om monda lion, as ... ... t ~' - n n E' :/. . \ I , ~ ConStnt CaIMld.1r Pa~ I Courtney I Movtd by Ambr, StCOndtd by 1I0row, Any discussion. 1I0rowl Yts, your 1I0nor. I had a qutsUon on '4d.l.ln whl(h wo Stt tM p.h, on Ian. 21st for tho Clty's proporM Community Bulldtr Plan, I wantOO to whom that this would bo Hnt I wondortd. AWnsl Copl" of tho plan. I am roally not suro. I would havo to chock with Y.arln. My undorstandlng II wo WIll matolt avallablo to tho tradlUonal moans of tho public library, tho Cltrk's orrico. It thero aro sp<<ItIC people that maybt you would Iiko It malltd to. 1I0row/l would be Inltrtsted that It gots bolck up to tho East Contrallowa CouneU of Govornmonts t><<aUst wo havo boOn. Atklnsl ECCOG,llno. 1I0rowl BtcaUH ECCOG haa boOn doing this sort or thing ovor tho past yoar and a ball and I would lIke a IIWo (r~ ferUllzaUon among tho various builder's plans. Atklns/Okay. I WIll tako cart or that Nov I this Is btlng wrlUtn by stall. Atklnsl Yos It Is. Novl Public Input Atklns/l am not sure oXilcUy bow tho public Input procoss works. It Is more a compllaUon of data than anything. Ills not IIko tho proparaUon of tho CIIAS or somo of tho othor more tradlUonal clUzen parUelpaUon documents. For us to bt<ome ellglblo for funding undor various statt programs wo have to kind of packago all of this together. And cortalnly tho public Is onUUtd to comment on It I don'L thing. I am not roal sure that thoro Is evon a nood for It bt(auso It Is lust kind of bard data. Kubby I WMn you compllo thOSt components...WlII you glvo us some oXilmpltl so pooplo will know when to commont Atklns/Suro. Wo can do that Y.ubby I Can you give somo examples right now. Horow/l think wo are getung this this Friday. Tnt council will be gOlUng It. Il will be mallod out this Friday as I understand It. Atklns/l don't have tholinal draft In front of me. Courtney I Any other discussion, Roll call. - .. .... ,.- _ 9 - 90 . - - ~ 1 . ~ - n n E' LI Agonda 10wI City City CooocU ROQulll c~a MaOIIng JolIUI,y 7, 1992 Pogl 5 Action: "'.J r X~~/. tI /r .Q IP) cL ~ all #/~1l ~ ID'O~ ~~I':~ Acllon: doterlbod In tllo .ccompanylng momOl.ndlrl\ dalod Docombor 31,1991. Illubloct gonorony to lubmllslon.nd .pprov.1 01 conllluollon Ind logal dOC\.Wl\onll prlOt to C~II conlldo" IIlon 01 tllo plan. To dall, Iogal dOC\.Wl\Onll havo boon lubmlllod to tho Cily and mUll bo Ipproved by tllo Logal Dopartmont. ConallUCllon plana Ind drawing I, howovor, havo not boon lubmlllod lOt City IIvlow .nd .pprov.l. TIIo CommllaJon'l rocommondallon II conllalont",lth tllo Ilall'l IOcommondallon. COIrOlpondonoo Irom InlorOllod Indlvlduall 1Ilncludod In tllo COIMICU packot. .,~, ftiJ) (f"oltl!'It~/ 11,6) )?,.twtlv/ ;(,U~,,,) ~JD" I'AJ'/~./WtCe~ ~ t.lt (J1Jt. I{ I ( (1.4''; Conlldor a rOlolutlon opprovlnjJ t~ prolimlnAry Lllgo Scali Non'Rosldontlll Dlvolopmont Pl.n 101 City Carton Company, lno, Ind .pprovlng .n Igroomont wllh City Carton luthOllzlng onoroachmont 01 cortaln Iondtelp/ng Improvlmonll ontO public ,lghll.ol,wlY, IS.91291 Common\: At III Docombor 5, 199 1, moo ling, tllo Planning Ind Zoning Commilslon rocommondod, by. VOla 01 e.llCook vollng nOI, approvol 01 0 prollmloory Largo Scalo Non.ROIldon. till DlvolopmontlLSNRDI pion lor City Carton Company, lno., locIlOd on tho norlhwost cO/nor 01 Bonton ond Clpltollllootl. Thl Commllslon'l rocommondltlon II lubloctto omllaJon 01 I propolIl originally lIIult,olod on lho plan to barm orteroon 1110 aroo WOlt 01 tho loading dock IOCIlOd on tho northwost cO/nor Ollhl 1110. Thl ClloT.nliG~lon 1110 oncourogod City opproval 01 conaln doslgn 10aturOl 01 tho plan 01 dOlc,lbod In Iho momorandum dalod Docombor20, 1991,Inoludod In Iho Council packot. Thoso loaturos havI boon approvod by Ilall. Tho recommandollon 01 1110 Planning ond ZonIng Commlulon Is conslslont Wllh I rocommondallon conlolnod In tho 11I11 roport dllOd Docombo, 5,1991. At It I Oocombor 18, 1991, mooting, by 0 vOlo 01 7.0, tho Rlvorlront ond Nalural ArOlS Commission rocommondod disapproval ollho LSNRD plan duo to Its pro_lmlty to lho lowo Rlvor and tho lack 01 malorlals to ollocllvoly Icroon Iho 1110 Irom tho rlvor. ~ J (~&-..J ( &(U /. ~ ~ 1;: ,\ I . - rt rt E' 5 · ~^ p3ge I Courtney 1 Discussion. M~ lIaytkl Mr, New Mayor, membtrs of lbe counctl, CIty start. I'm Me lIayek and I reprtstnt Polar eock Whlth Is a p3rtnmhlp of t,,r,'O construcUon companlH. Polar construcUon Com~ny or lIolslnkl, Finland, and also BEtcK Which Is a Unltfd Statts construcUon comp3ny, They aro htadquar~rod In Birmingham, Alabama. I also want to point out to you lbat Polar.5tck Is lbo SOlo shareholdor of IdyllWlld Inc Wlllch Is lbo owntr of lbo Idyll WIld tract and someUmes I rofer to It as lbe Englort tract bocauSf It has In lbe p3st bHn rtfmod to as lbo Englert trat~ as well. I also want to point out to you lbat I reprtstnt Kovln Hanlck Who Is a local roal tsta~ brokor and agontln Iowa City and has bHn so for qul~ somt Ume. I want to II I may pltaSf outllnt a IIttlt bit of history of this proposal Wlllch you have bofore you at lbls moment Back In tarly 1991, I was contac~ by Kevin and by principles of Polar.5tck, to repr~nt lbem Wllb r"poet to a COllege park conctpt Polar 5tck has doveloped lbe COllege p3rk concept Whlth Is a Upscalf multifamily c1us~rtd studtnt housing dtvtlopmtntln II communities Wllb unlytrslties lbroughout lbe country. They wer. very oxcl~ about placing a similar projoctln Iowa City and I might say lbty art still txcltod about doing lbat II lbty can mr find lbt approprla~ location. Whon lbey contac~ mo lboy told mo lbatl was to call a mooting of all of lbe neighbors of Idyll wild tractor Englert trac~ as well as Inviting lbe city planners as well as lbo roprtStntatives of lbe riverfront commission to lbls mooting. And we did have lbls metting. It was on March I, a rainy Friday night In fact It was rainy, cold and a Friday night at lbe HOliday Inn, plus we had about 23 poople show up for It ^ lot of neighbors. Bob Wachel was Uloro. Wo also had lbo hoad of lbo planning dopartment at lbat time at~nd lbat mooting as well. They wan~ to como to Iowa City and prtstnt lbe college park proposal to lbOSf Individuals, In~rested peoplo Who wort In lbt norlbond and oUlorwiSf had an In~rest In lbe devolopmontln lbat area. lbey did so and we rocelvtd, as you can Imagine, a lot of comment They asktd for a lot of comment We recelvod a lot of good suggostions tor modi tying tile plan, such as changing acc&Ss trom Tall Spttdway to lbe norlb oll ot Fos~r Road. And several olber sugg&Stions. Polar Bock lben, polar bock, never trom lbe very beginning trio<! to Illdt Ule nature of lbe proposal to Wit: student housing. They telt lbey had good succoss wilb lbatln lbe past They wan~ to do It In Iowa City, The doveloper however In taking Into conSideration, tile objecUons lbat wore vOlco<!, lbe considerations lbat wore pr~nOOd to lbem by neighbors and start, wont back to lb. , . . -nnE'b . .\ · 5A ~g~ 2 draWing board conslstenUy to try to mett U10st conCfrns and U10st oblecUons. Finally, alter many many monUls W& did, U1e dmloper did come back WlUI a c1~an slate ~nUally. They und~rstood U1at U1~ college ~rk concept was not appropriate lor the theldyllwild or Englert tract.. It was simply unworkablo. Thoy knew U1at.. Thoy eame back With a proposal U1at Is somowha~ \'Nil vory similar to U1e one that you're prostnted tontgh~ and U1at Is the IdyllWlld condominiums project.. They did so with U1e proposal U1at met all 01 U1e stalls' conctrns \~th rosptCt to the development to the Idyll wild trac~ as woll as U1e concerns exprosstd by U1e commission, They shllted completely Irom a student housing project to a c1uster&<!, upscale condominium dmlopment that would appeal to, U1ey lol~ reUr"" young couplos, and certainly lamlllos as W&II. That was at 103 units por the tract or 2M acres. ThelniUal proposal, I'm not embarrass&d to say, was a 212, this Is the College Park proposal, was a 212 units lor llIat tractor land. they came down to 1666, they came down to 124, 112, and then 103. At the P {l. Commission mooUng, as the minutes Wllllndleate to you, U1e P(I. Comm pass&d or rocommend&<! approval 01 the proposal unanimously with a 6.0 vote. And I think I'd bt ralr to say U1at ba~ upon my listening to U10 comments 01 Dick Gibson, who was the abstnt membtr the night the vote was takon, I slnceroly bollove that had ho OOon thoro, It would have boon 7.0 vote In ravor or tho proposal. CondlUon&<! upon ollmlnaUng one bUilding 01 lour units, dropping It to 104. That's llIe proposal that you have btlore you tonight.. The developer In U1ls process has btnt over backwards to try to comply with concerns. The city 01 Iowa City does not ow& Polar. Bock anyUllng, and I want to bt very up Iront about llIat.. But I do also want to Irom a lalrness standpoln~ emphaslzo that this has boon a long, drawn out process where U1e devoloper has trl&<! to como up With a proposal U1at would bt appropriate to U10 Idyllwild tract.. Thoro W&ro a lot 01 concerns and let me remind you If I may resptCltully. U1at right now, U1e tract may bt developed pursuant to what I'd like to call the Oaks.llodge proposal. It's o~nUally a 32 housing unit development which Is comprised I believe 01 62 slngtelamlly homes plus 19 duplex houses. We believe U1at the Idyllwild condominiums project that wo have propos&<! tonight, has ~veral advantages. And I'd like to got U1rough U10m because I U1tnk U1oy'ro Important and I know U1ts Is an Issue U1at Is extremely senslUvo with resptCt to development 01 U1at tract, and II you'd Indulge me, I'd like to cover U1em, some or them. The current proposal will provide tor 52 handicapped accessible units. None are available under U1e current , , . - n n E' ~-I " ~ p3go l plan, Whtn I say th. currtnl plan, I'm rolerrlng to WIIat a dmlo~r could do WIth that proptrty now at this Umt. Thm art t'ft\) rownUon basins WIth rf$ptelto th. pro~llls comp3r~ to on. undor th. curront pl4n. Also plt.Ut romombfr.thls IS a condominium prolK~ th.r. WIll bo a cOIIdMllnlum d.daraUOIllndudlng vorl' ctrld covonant.s W111ch WIll han vory strict provisions WIth rtsptCt to malntfnanco olthOst bulns. And you lolks arelamUlar With that tract 01 land, tho SOuth basin Is rtally qUilt largo, And UIO curront plan has no policIng or onlorcemtnt provisions With rtsptCtto malnwnanco 01 that basin. You WIll hm undor a condominium conc.pt dtvtlopm.nt as propOstd bf/or. you now. Tho propOstd plan also Is going to provldo lor mr 1250,00001 I4ndseaplng oxptndllurts, Right now, thoro aro virtually no trOts on that tract 01 land. Thm's no assuranco thatthoy'ro going to bf any trOts under tho current allowtd subdivision plan. Tho building 5O!backs lor tho proposOO buildings, the 26 propOstd buildings aro slgnlltcanUy larther back Irom tho ptrlmeltr boundary Unts 01 tho proposOO plan than thOst houSts ptrmlUod now undor th. Oaks lIodgo plan. I think tho closost building that com.. to a ptrlm.ltr boundary Un. Is th. building closost to th. church and I think thllt'S $OmeWllero about 33. 34 10ft In that nolghborhood.the othors aroln the neighborhood 01 40.45 loot lor th. boundary Unts. Thor. Is also lor tho propostd plan, 301 apprOXlmaltly, 30l moro, or 30llts5lmptrvlous surlacothan tho .XlsUng plan, And I think that has quite a bit 01 Import With rtsptCtto dralnag. and stormWiJltr rolenUon probl.ms, Also under th. condominium d.v.lopm.nt concopt the plan propostd Includts mothods 01 maintaining and controlling tho common aroas. TIlero , tho homeownerS' assoclaUon WiU bt establlshe<l. TIlero Will bt a common Inlarest In maintaining tho optn aroas and tho common lacUlUts 01 that subdivision. TIlero Will bt on/orcomont provisions With resptCtto tho dKlaraUon or condominium as wall and that does not oXlst at this Umo, there Will be, and I know Ulat Susan menUon&d last njgh~ I bfll.v. It WiJS SUsan and I may bf wrong, wall a concorn r think randy talked about a conc.rn at I.as~ about ronUng. TIlat thoro aro prolKts all ovor town that start out as being single family ((Isldoncts and thoy and up, and ho's obviously qUilt rlgh~ as ronlal proptrty. TIl. dovoloptr has commlllod to mo and I horoby commit to you, the dKlaraUons or condominium havo a restrlcUon on renUng the units. In other words, they Will bt requlre<lto be owner occupie<l property. TIlero aro other condominium devolopments as you know that have similar restrlcUons. They're concerne<l about UJat Issue as wall. And t - n n E' EI . · SA pago 4 lhoy can doal W1lh lhat under lho propostd plan. AISO,I would rtSptCUully state lhat lho proposal compllH W1lh lho comprtMnslveplan as amondtd In 1969 lor lhe ptnlnsul3. It's cluslor, slnglolamlly dmlopmont providing ror stgnlrlcant optn spaco, At lho H ramlly por acro occupancy rango. Also lho proposod plan provldos ror Foslor Road ImprOYtmont lrom lowtr drive to lho \mt entrance or lht proposod subdivision It also provldH ror conUnulty or dovelopmont. this plan,lhls property as propostd WIll bo dovelopod starUng rrom ~nUally lho cluslor to lhe norlhoast and movo towardslho norlhw.st. It will bo a conUnuous conUnulty dovelopment as propostd to lho oXlsUng plan which provldtS ror, as I Indicated, 62 slnglo ramlly homos, OXCUSt me, 62 slnglo ramlly hOUStS, I am sorry, and 19 duplexos. Thoro Is no conllol ovor how long lhoso lots tako to get sold. No conllol over how lhey are develOped. 110 conllol over lho strucluros lhat are going to bo placed on tM proptrty as lhe eXlsUng subdivision approval Is at lhls point. Furlher, lhertls a prtdetermlned doslgn In an OPDH or In any overlay zone. And lam sorry. I am not lIylng to tell you lhlngs lhat I know you already know. But I lust want to slim lhat an overlay zone provldH ror predotermlned building strucluros, predetermined building placemen~ predetermined archl~tural doslgn. Larry Is going to, while I am talking, If It Is alright wllh you rolks. TnOSt are elevaUons or lhe Lwo building stylOS lhat havo been put togelher by the architect. As wt Indicated thore are rour living units per building, SO lhls Is all determined. What you," Is what you get If you approve lhe Idylwlld Condo. concept. Also, by the way, the architect Mre Is Chari" Brugerman rrom Cedar Rapids. I bollovo he doslgned lhe Boyd hOme on RocMslor Ave. Ir my memory servos me. Also the parking provided In the condo. subdivision proposal Is rar In exctss or what tile city minimum requirements ror parking are. Far In excoss or the requirements. Also their Internal walkways prOVided Within the condo. subdlv,odevelopment which mak" It very pedoslllan rrlendly. Also there Is going to bo local project developmen~ local prolect parUclpaUon. That Is where Kevin Hanlck com" In, There will be local builders. This Is not a project where Polar Bock Is going to ~nd up non.unlon eonsllueUon workers rrom Alabama or rrom where evor. It WIll be a local developer Involved In tho building on this. As rar as tile denSity Issue If I may address that. Casey Cooke, who obviOUSly Is on the P IZ Comm" during some or the mooungs wt had made somelnterHUng comments. He indicated he was very personally Involved with respect to the Compo Plan rormulaUon as wtll . - n n 8 CI " · ~A pago ~ as tht amendmtnt in 1939, Cawy Cooke said that ht wantfd to stltsS looking at tht housing stock throughout tho city. And he polntfd out some vory IntmsUng staUsUcs Which you rolks prob3bly ore awaro or and I torgotlon somo or thom. But ovor the last ton years tho donslty development In Iowa City haG lall out pacod the prOlo.:UOIIG. A hUS. porconbge out pacing the proltcUons 110 polnttd out to tho nolghbol1 and to us that tho density or dovelopment In the south part or Iowa City has oo.n onormous When compared to tho denSity or dmlopment In tho north part or Iowa City. ParUcularly In tho ponlnsula aroa. 110 said that It Is Important that that donslty bt shared by ovoryone. That that density not simply be placed In a roglon or tho city but everyone has to share In density. And ptOplo Who live thoro. Pooplo Who live Whore I live. Who IIvo Whore you rolks live. Onco you aro there you roally don't want many more rolks. And Casty Wl'S polnUng out that that Is not approprlato. It's an approprlalo responst and reacUon. But that thoy had to look at What was best as rar as dlversllylng density throughout the town. Not lust In the south and not lust In the west or oast but all over tht community. lit said that When the Compo Plan was passod and tht amendmont was passed In 1989 rororrlngto tholdylwlld tractor tho peninsula that his opinion was that tho density that the Compo Plan provided ror was not SlrlcUy RS.5 but was 2-8 housing units por acre tor the peninsula. That was his opinion In the proem that he was Involved In with respect to the Compo Plan. Now with rogard to the 1I00d plain Issut, I know that that Is a sonslUytlssut. But Iowa law and the ordinances or the City or Iowa City provide that It Is permlUed to build In tho 1I00d plain as long as you rollow cortaln speclllc requlroments and the developer has dODO so. The developer has done that ConsequenUy I might suggest or not consequenUy I might also suggest that devolopment Is now permltlodln that 1I00d plain area with respect to the oak Hodge development project Which I believe and tho developer believes to be rar Inrorlor to tho proposal that Is being madetontghl Incidentally, last spring we had a lot or lI00dlng, And IlIn In tho north ond ond r know North Dubuque StrOQ~ the west side, thost lanes or lralllc wore reslrlclod. I am sorry, the oast side. And the east stdo or Tart Speedway was tnundalod. But at no Umo was Fostor Road Hooded or Impeded. I might also suggest that tho Idlowlld Tract was not lI00ded olthor, It was not an Inundalod pleco or property, And that was prolly slgnttlcant lI00dlng wo had In tho spring. Now,llldylwtld Condo, proposal as proposed Is not approved, I honesUy do not know Ute developer has any altornaUve , -"....... ~ 1 - - - ~ \-- n n y u ~ · SA page 6 plans. I can honosUy and candidly say that Dtnslly has !><<ome an Important Issue to deal With. I know that It Is Import.1ntto you lolks I know that It Is Imporlantto the Mlghbors. And I know It Is very Important to the d&Velopers. They are at 101 units ~ acro, That comes down to ~nUally an OPDH 5.1. Thoy have como down to that lovol, Thoy loolthatthoy cannotcomolowor. It Is InlorosUng boe.1use II you tako out tho troo line blvd, Within tho subdivision tract and you ollmlnalo-you don't take tho Wholo blvd, out.but you lake out tho mlddlo blvd" I guess, area that has tho troos and landscaping on It 104 units would comply With a RS'5. So II you reduce amonltles and cut back In landscaping exponsos thon may bo you moot a lowor donslty 0110 lor Whalonr moots strlcUy speaking RS.5 donslty. Bu~ at this poln~ What tho dovoloper has donols como down as lar as thoy loolthoy can and still provide tho amenlUes that aro so Important to that tract development Am I am going to wrap up hore pretty qUICk. To elect to go With the eXisting Hodge.oakes plan, I honestly and slncorely lell It Is not In the bestlnlorest 01 thO City 01 Iowa. I think that the neighbors agroo With that And I ~lIovethatto be the ease, slncorely. Will wo hear Irom them tonight but I bellove the concept thatla being proJlO"d la lar and away In tho bostlnlorost 01 tho city comparod to What Is there now. Thero havo boon many many proposals lor the Englort tract and thoy all have boon protestod precipitously by the ntlghbors, To tM back 01 tho vory beginning and as lar back as Tom Scoot can recall and Tom Scott Is a protty young man. It goos back a IitUo bll Development Is going to occur thero. Wo know a slgnllleant price, thoro Is no socrotto tha~ was paid by the dovoloper tor that tract ot land, A tremendous amount 01 money. It was going to be dovolopod and I suggest that you look to tho Pf/., your Commission and you PfZ stall, With all duo respect and look at What they havo dolormlnod In tace ot tho protests that have been mado throughout this process by 6-0 they votod against downzonlng and thoy votod tor the proposed subdivision. ObViously you must decldo What Is best tor the City and I stress thal Tho City Is What I think you have to look at as tar as Is this proposal to be the ~stlor tho City 01 Iowa City. Thank you very much tor your timo. Courtnoy II think wo havo a couplo questlons tor you. Horow/ Mr. Hayek,l am a little bit perploxod. Who owns that property right now, Hayok/ldylWlld, Incorporated. It Is an Iowa Corporation. It was Incorporated tor tho purposes or taking title. Horow/ But Dean Oakes 3nd Hodge no longor own that. , 't, - n n q 'I .\ .~~go 7 IIaytkl No ma'am Tho proptrty I belltvt was purchaSfd In Fobruary by Idylwild InC'Orp. from ~n Oakes and Hodge. /Iov I And Polar ~k owns Idylwild Incorp,. Hayokl Polar Bfik own~ all of the shartS. All of tho Issued and outstanding sharos ofldylWlld Incorp. Thoy wan~ 14 havo an Iowa CClIp. Involved, Thoy nom covored that Issuo up. From the very boglnnlng Polar llt4k has IdenUfled themSflvos as the 'owner: 1I0rowl Thoy wtrt not able to do What thoy wanted to do. would they use Oak" and Hodg" plan, !layok/l am not saying thal I don't know What they would do. I hontSUy don't know. I hm not had any InstrucUons as to What thoy would do, Larsonl But thoy would have the right to, Haytkl Thoy hm tho right to but I don't know that thoy would do thal I am not. In othtr words I am not horo convoying throats. Please don't think thal Alii am trying to Indlcatt Is What can be done with the property and What their proposal Is, I am just saying that their proposal Is the best proposal. Kubbyl Would tht C'Ondo. assoc. mombtrs bt able to change tho covenant that It had to be ownor oxupled. Hayokl Normally thoy havo tho right with a sufflclont majority of Whatovor that may bt.What mr the percentage would be. Kubby I But there would bt provlslon for thal Haytkl Tos. I would think so. I would think that to be the case. I don't think that you would formr prohibit It from changing those covenants as long as there are a sufficient number of poople Who art In favor of Il But thost provisions would be and I have Indicated to Dana Chrlsltnson, that thost provisions would be submitted to the city for tholr city attornoy review. Horowl What Is your exporlencoln comants In this city In ttrms 01 parents buying something for their kids to live In for 4 years? Hayek I It happons In an awtullot 01 C'Ondomlnlums. But I've boOn Involved In enlorclng thost covonants with respect. Horowl How do you do thal Hayek I There are mechanisms In the covenants that II you vlolatt those covenants then you can be prohibited or enjoined lrom that continued- Horow/ll tho owner Is the mother and lather, only the mother and lather can live thoro and their daughttr and their lrlends cannol Hayekl Normally, I think that II a member of tho family rtSldes in tho condo. unl~ I believe usually that Is allowed. I think that you could r~ulre that an actual owner occupy. I know Ulat thore haYe been . . -' n n q e ,\ , · '^ 1>38. 4 "WI whfft Utt moUtff lInd fllUtff han purchllHd Ute proptrly WlUt Utt daughter or Utt SOlI and convtyod to Uttm or had Utem bUY Il You know, I. undlvldod \n~rt$lto got around thal Thort aroalways ways to got around rtstllcUons, lIorow/lluslaskod Utls stmply btcaus. In '311 remomt>tr Uto phras. coming up 01 apartmonts on Klrk~ Avo and someone said someone said lot's got around Utt stmanUC1 of Utls. WO'ro talking about a dormitory. And Utls Is-I am really concornod about Utls. Hayekl SUsan, Utt proJ<<ltd cost 01 Uto units or Uto projected purcha~ prlco Is somowhtrtln Ute nolghborhood of S 120-130,000. 1I0rowl And Is Utatln comparison WlUt OUtff laclUUos nearby. Tho gonoral nolghborhood costs. lIaytk/l don'tknow. Horowl e.caus. I Utought Utat wal what Uto ami wal. Tho ami was going to bo UtattxptnSlvt for yupplts or for whatevtr and wo soon lound out that Ute student's parents can aflord to buy Utom. I am worritd about Utls. Il4yok/l can't addrm It any mort Utan I havt. Kubby/I havt a qutsUon for Und4. If wo would changt Uto zoning to RS-5, Utt curront plat II at RS'5, corrtel Gontry I Tho subdivision denslly of Ute plat Is ItIS Utan RS-5. Kubby I Rlghl But bocaust It's dupleXts would that plat Uton bo defunct or would It bt nonconformIng. aently I Ltts back up. If you downzone it Kubby Ilf wo would downzonell atntry I Th~ plat remains. Kubby/ So It would lust bt nonconforming, aontlyl Yts. Horowl Tho 03kos Hodgo plat Utatll Utero right now. Gentry I The subdivision play remains. lIorowl Would remain. If It wore dOWllzontd It would remain lust nonconforming. aently I Yos. Larsonl Mr. Hayek, can you elaborate alltUo bit on someUtlng Ulat you spokO of Utallntrlguod me, I would Uketo find a way to have all tht benefits of your development I might say Utatl agr.. WlUt you whole hoarlodly Utatltll much belter Utan most of Uto opUons Utatl can onvlslon going In thero Utat aro out In Utore by a developer looking short range and soiling Utem quickly. So I Utlnlc. that It has tlemendous advantagos, I appreciate your UsUng Utoso, lam sure oUter pooplt WlIIUst somo 01 UtO dlsadvanlagts. I would IIkoto find a . - n n q ~I \ · ,^ pagt 9 dtvtlopmtnt Ulat can lit W1U1ln RS'5 For lots 01 rtally mort philosophIcal qutsUons, one 01 Which Is Ulat ~ rtzontd mryUllng tl50 Ultrt to RS-5 and I Ullnk It only lair to rmnt Ulls on. RS'5. And It sttms to me Ulat your dtvtlopment can bo one that IIts In RS'5. You blkod about bklng out a /Ilodlan 01 Ibo blvd, You could drop taIIO building and got It down to 100 units and lit W1U1ln RS-5, You ulkod about not knowtng What Uloy would do II Ulls didn't lIy but can you give mt any 01 your pel1pO(Uvo on hOW It COUld lit In RS'5In$~ad 01 RS-5.1. H~yok/l Ullnk maybo Kevin could, Randy, slnct I am not roally Ulo developer and I rtally don't havo an answer to you oUler Ulan What we han historically done alroady Which Is Ult slgnlllcant rtducUon In Ulo proposal. Kovln- Nov lOne moro qutsUon btloro you call on Kevin. Havo you dlscussod 1l00d Insuranco wtUl Polar 8f.jk. Have Ulty madt plans to put Ulls In Ult covenant Haytkl Woll, I Ullnk What happens Is Ulo marktt place dt~rmlnts Ulat to a corl4ln oxtent In oUlor words,lI you buy a property and IInanco wtUl a lendor Who Is going to.parUcularly a lender Who Is going to soli Ulo loan on Ulo s<<ondary market Which happons a lot 01 Ulo Ume. That londer r&qulros 1l00d Insurancoll you build In Ulollood plain. Boeau5t Polar Btik, Ulo doveloper Is not going to own a property onco Ule proporty Is sold. Onco Ulelndlvldual buyors buy all 01 Ulo units, Thon It Is Ult homoownor's assoclaUon Ulat owns all Ult common areas. And lrankly Is Uley ask mo I would probably luggtst Ulat Uloy hm 1l00d Insuranco. Nov I Even lor Ule common areas. Haytkl Wtll, you know. Thtrtls going to bt a lot 01 amenlUos, There Is a lot olllghUng, Thortls a lot oltlo<l/lcal. Thertls a lot 01 Ullngs Ulat I sUppo".o could bo olloclOO In Ulo common :lfoas by ll00dlng Ulat Uley would want to protect Ulomsolvos against Tho units tllomsolvos aro built at an elevaUon Ulat Is abOvt Ult 100 ytar lloor plain. nut III had a ground lloor unl~ I Ullnk regardltss 01 What my lender said, I would probably Invest In llood Insurance. Nov I The units aro two on Ulolowor level and two ab ovo. Hayekl Two on Ulo bottom and two on Ulo top. Dottom units are Ule handicapped accosslble. Courtney I Could Ule condo. assoc. buy 1l00d Insurance lor Ulo Whole bUilding just bt(aU5t Ule upper levels would bt responsible lor Uloso common areas as woll also, wouldn't Uley, . - n n q LI .~ · SA pag~ 10 Hayok/I don't hm tht answer to tha~ D.1rrtll I don't think that thtrt art any requirements that I think that It Is up to the hOmtownt(s 8$$<< and the dmlo~r,1 suppos., as to what they may require. Bu~ you know, usually the lending market deltrmlnes what gets what Insurance. Kubby / Yeah but that Is for the Individual units, Not for the common space. Hayek/ YOS, ma'am. That Is right Larson/I gum my concern about the Individual units. the only part of th~ llood quesUon that bothers me Is that poople that come In from another community and figure well tho city wouldn't lot them build thtrt If there Is going to bt a bunch of flooding and that of courst Is not the stato of the current set 01 ordlnan~. We do lot poople build where there Is going to bo a bunch of lloodlng and so I think some way of protecUng buyers that don't have maybe realtors as good as we all might hOpe that they all are, SO that they don't get In to a sltuaUons where they think 'I am In a flood plain here, bow can I do this.' Hayek/I think that Is something that could bo Ues In too with the doclaraUon of condo. Larson/Let me finish the rost 01 my quesUons for you so you don't have to shurne around with Kevin and he may want to answer all of thOSt. I am preUy grOOdy about this piece of land, I guess, bo(aU5t If It Is going to bo a OPDH then we get to have a IItUe bit of leverage and I might want to have a few more things than Pf/. wantod. Maybt tho things that you can't go with. I want to throw them out and at least get your reilcUon. My fooling Is that when we have a developer fill In some development In an area then they put In the sidewalks on the periphery. I have a hard Ume pollUcally and othlcally putung a dmlopment In that Is almost 100J of the ntlghbors are against and then a few years down the road when we Improve thOst periphery roads assossthose neighbors for half the cost of the sidewalks wilen tradlUonally we have made developers put sidewalks In a long tMlr dev~lopments, I know that you have the Internal pedestrian traffic vory ~II managed but I don't undersland why wo don't ask you to put up the cost of the sidewalks now to be done, to be expended when thOst roads are actually Improved. Is that something the devoloper thinks lust can't do. Hayek/ No. I don't thlnk.ln fact,tho first Ume we hoard about that was from you last night That is something that the slaff did nol roally discuss with us other than I think that they wanted to have, with the , , -nnc/S . ,I · 5A pago II Colltge Park dovelopmen~ they wantod to have a stdowalko$Ome provisions ror sidewalks along Tart Spoodway to tho south over to the Dubuque aroa. And thero Is a big problem thore as rar as r.o.w. Thm Is not tho r.o.w. to do that Is my understanding. That was the only cldeW1lk Improvements that ~re dl<<u~. And Randy, It Ie not something that tho developer has considered, Larson I But that Is up ror discussion. Hayekl Yeah, absolutely. Larson/l think that the only thing you could hm done around your Colltgo Park subdivision would have betn to put about a 100 root rence around It. Is Bruce Glasgow In his leller or January 6th, which you may not have won, mlslnrormed when he says this type or dmlopment catering to studont and reUroos will not burden the school system and city, olc. elc. He 800ml to think that It II ca~rlng to students, I hear you say that there are not going to bo any sludents there unless thoy are daughlm and sons or owners, Hayek. Yeah. And I don't know wlIat the basis ror that comment he made was at all. I didn't road Il Larson/Okay. And on that Issue, Ir an owner Is a 19 year old In a condo, are they allowed to have unrelatod two other poopleln that unll So that not mrybody In the unit has to bo owner. Hayekl No. I think that Is correcl Larsonl So, the owner could then rent out par~ the bedroom or whatever to rrlends or whatever. Hayek/l think that a910ng a9 you stay within the unrelatod roomer provision I think probably that Is true. Larsonl Even with the declaraUons that you want to put In your homeowner assoc. Hayekl There are certain ways to get around Il Larson/l don't mean get around Il It would be contemplatod that someone could bUY one and then have roommates 01 college age. Hayekl SUre. Larsonl And that would be enUrely permlttod and contemplatod. Hayekl II there Is a way of prohlblUng that from happening, I am sure 1M developer would very strongly consldvr doing 50, Courtney I But that could also happen In as 125,000 single family residence. Hayekl SUre, It happens all over town. Larson/l am not alrald or thaL I just want to make sure that the publiC record or percepUon doesn't get dlstortod, For poople to think that thore won't be coUtge kids there, Pete Hayek said there ~uldn't 00. . - n n q b · 5A pago 12 114yek/ Tbtrt aro going to bt, Just like Polar Bfik sold from the beginning But I would IIkoto suggtSt that dmlopment under tho OaktSllodge concepti btUm Is going to rosullln more o/that happening than undor this proposal, You art going to havo duploxos. You aro goln8to hm smallor stnglo/amtly rosldoncos larson/ And my laslthlng and then maybo It Is Umeto sWitch om to Kevin, up to you, Is- I don't have any problem bolng In favor 0/ this dtvtlopment as opposod to tho Oakos lIodge dmlopmenl I don't han any problem bolng In favor o/It compared to almost any dovolopmentthatl ean Imaglno. But that Is a hardor call/or somo !ltOPlt. I think at some point you have to paint a pic lure to us 0/ What happons II this doosn'l go or What wo are 80ln8to havo any chanco 0/ goWng 100 unit thing so Itllts Within our RS.S. 1/ you would bo able to get this approved by lust moving somelandseape so that It Is going to go \I wo downzoned to RS-S. I gum I want to know aboutthal ilayek/ W. Will ctrtalnly provldethatlnformaUon to you. Larry Is going to ban, frankly, a lot of Input on this. Jlo(ause he Is going to do the cosUng o/thal. larson/ Casoy Cooko agr... With you. 110 told mothatlt probably doos III Within RS-S. His opinion Is II you shllt some things around. Ills a very c1oso call. lIayek/ltls. We Will get that for you. Kevin lIanlck/1 am a partner In teplc Kroger Realtors herein Iowa City. I am also Involved In this proltCtln a number 0/ ways. 8rlelly, he gave you his background, I Will ~II you mine. I was contacOOd almost years ago now by Polar Iloo\k to set about a place to build their coll&8o housing proltCt and we looked high and low. WelnvosUgaOOd probably ovory possibility In town and thero was some slzo roslrlcUons and obviously some zoning roslrlcUons that we had to deal With and frankly, I am not afraid to say this because I said It to them at the Umo. When they doclded to bUY this property from Oakos and Hodge who owned the property, I said you havoltsS than a SO/50 chance or having your proltCt passed her.. I feltlhatl had to say that from a roal osta~ brokor point 0/ vlow. Justin good faith. I personally didn't think that It was the right use for that land and I advlcod thom o/thal Tboy folt.thoy aro co convlncod o/lholr produc~ by tho way, and the way It has worked In other places,they /elt that they could change minds, Whether they were led to believe thatlhls could happen or not by olhors, I have no comment but lhey ... . '----....,--T t - n rr \ q '-I . . ~ p3go I) did buy tho land, Whon It bt<amf appmnt that OlANGETAPETOREEL9H SIDE2 Kovln lIanlckl thoy now own tho land, Thoy ownod It Ulon, ThIG waG not An opUon on tho land, TIIoy purchaso tho land Thoy Immtdlatoly ~nt oock to staU and said wIIatls rtcOll\mtnded htro, With a vory strong re<ommondaUon from tho PIZ staU of 10Wl! elLy thoy talked about e1usltr slnglo family owntr occupied rtsldonct5. That Is wIIat th.y wantod. TIlls Is against an alrtady approved subdivision of slnglt family and dupltxod lots. It was already In placo. Thoyalways consldortd this thtlr oock up posIUon And to addrtsS one of your points to ono of your quesUons, Randy. To wIIat Will happon Il this Isn't approvtd, I don't know. Wo don't know for surf btcauso Polar ~k dotS own this land, My anUclp3Uon Is that thoy would put In tho Improvtmonts, put In tho strttts and ..11 tho lots. That would bo my anUclp3Uon. To any bulldor wIIo wants to como and pay tho prlco for tholoL TIlt way we hm run tht numbtrs, thoy would bt compoUtvoly priced lots. Thoy wouldn't bo ltrrlllcally oxponslvo. And you would got corresponding duploxos and sf. houstS that ~ ean mako guO$$OS aL I think that tho would sollthoso hOusos, from my oxporlonC", at a lo~r prlco than tho condo. units, frankly. And to answer anothor one of your quosUons, wily on oarth, from my oxporlonco, any paront would mr bUY as 120,000 wIIon you (an bUY any number at hall that prlco In this town for studonts. That goes against good sonso. I don't think that that would happon. Kubby I Kovln, aro you saying that thoy wouldn't thon chOost to drop ono of tho buildings Instoad. I hmn't got to that yoL Hanlck/l wantod to addrm a couplo of othor things tlrst III could, Also tho two prolocts that aro alroady In oldstoncoln this town that I think one ought to look at aro two fairly good quality prolocts from my oxportonco. Tl1oso aro tho Willow Brook Condos. on ~nton and Mormon Trok which Is In a flood plain by tho way and thoy do havo flood Insuranc. and art onUrely owner O((upl~, An<:llt) my knowJ&dgo,ORt unit whoro a ttonagor WIlS living thoro WIll lust r05t)ld re<onUy. Thoro aro no chlldron what so mr.thoy aro all ownor occuplod couplos and slnglo. And tho othor proloct which Is a similar projocton tho oast stdo of town on Cayman Dr. Similar four ptox typo units aro, I think, good oxamptos of tho kind of markot that thoso units Will appeal to, Wo happen to Ullnk Ulat Ults Is a bettor location for that kind of thing. I am spoaklng horo as my oxporlon'oln roal ,---".....---r . - n n q 8 " · SA page 14 ostatt In 10m City, Wt ftnd a IItmtndous dtmand, a growing dtmand lor rtUrHt, tmpty ntSton, alum ptOplt who lInd 10m City a vtry attracUve pl3coto spond a good sharo 01 Ultlr Umt. Wt Mve ptOple who Inquire on a rtgular basis from DH Moines, [)3Vtnpor~ so on, who would like to own a placoln 10m City, a rmonably prlctd unit In 10m city, to spend a good sharo of limo. They Ullnk 10m City, and a lot of ptOple Ullnk 10m City Is a wonderful place to reUrolor, I'm not lust saying olderly, but I'm saying ompty ntstor type ptOplo who mntto tako advantage of Ule arts and cullurallhlngs Ulat aro olrered Ulat frankly artn't as avallabloln oUler plactS. I Ullnk Ulls IS an elrort to mttt Ulat markel Thoso units havo bttn cartlully dtstgntd so Ulat all 01 Ulo units aro on slnglolovols. Thoy aron't Ilko somtono rolorrtd to up on Kirkwood, mulU.two storltd lovols. Once you'roln your unit you'ro on one slnglolovo1. And as Polt monUontd, Ulero art 52 units Ulat will be handlcapptd acc0S5lble which I Ullnk Is also an Important concern and one ought to be carefully consldortd under Ult Oakes.Hodge of course, noUllng nttd be handlcapptd a((mlblo, landscaped or anyUllng olSt. Ulo Ullng Ulat I'd roally IIkoto address Ulat you brought up 15,1 don't know how to say Ulls kindly, but Courtnoy I Don't worry about Ulal Hanlckl Butl won't be mean tlUler. Bu~ Ulls almost ttchnlcal point 01 wheUler It's 104 or 100 units, we've worked cartlully wlUl Polar. ~k. Now I want to let you know, and I don't Ullnk lhat UlIs Is any socret elUler, Ulat Ulls Isn't Ule sort 01 Ullng Ulat Polar.l\oik,lrankly Is a small project for Ulem. They'ro a big InttrnaUonal dmloper. Tho' Uloy arolnvolvtd and sUII own Uleland, we actually anUclpate taking an acUve ownership and dmlopmont rolo. Wo hm local builders and local archlttcts, local markeUng. This Is not a rovorse carpelb3ggor kind 01 Ullng. Ulls Is a local prolecll want you to view It Ulat way, But to address your point hero, When we asktd MMS to getlnvolvtd and Ule Broggamann (sp?) DtSlgn group to get Involved and Ulo Polar.~k pooploto get Involved, we wtro trying to design a whole project Ulat has many facets, It's a muIU./acvltd plan you hm horo, Donslty Is lust ono vory minor Ullng. And wt're trying vory hard to respond to Ule concerns of Ute neighbor. And part 01 Ulose concorns have to do wlUt Ule environment and mlor rolonUon, and how Ulat's going to be handltd, Ute conUnulty 01 developmont Ulat was brought up over and over again about hodge.podge, no pun Intended, devolopment. Ooh, am I going to got into trouble for Utat? (laughter) But Ute continuity 01 dmlopment, was an Important Utlng. a single developer . - n n q cl . ,\ · ~^ pagt I~ who could contlol tht apptaranco of Ulat I mean, It', ~n vl.~'\1, It., ooon brought up by many of thew peoplo Mro, that thiS In an enlly way to Iowa City. This Is one of tho lIrst things that people 6Ct whtn thoy drlvolnto our town. And tha~ tho thing that camo back on that was land~plng. How much land~plng' I romom~r tho nOIBhbOlG havo brought that up Ume and Umo again, Right now at Imt In tho curront numbtrs, I can ~II you thiS part of It, thoro's a 1260.000 landscaping budget And at20 aerts, that's I think you can chock that ou~ that's roally gonorous.lt will bt a professionally landsupvd and 1 think oxtremoly attractivo developmtnt And 1 think that th~ are good things. Tho reason that wo'Vo got a ll~ bOulovard and hOavy landscaping budgotls boeaUSt thOSt aro tied In vory carofully with tho numbOr of unlls you can build. 1 moan, tho oconomlcs. wo all know the boUom IIno on that I think wo could Stnd Larry S(hntll!er and MMs back to tho drawing boards and prOStnt you with another I O~ unit proposal that would bt In fact bOeauSt of tht calculations of slleols and so on would bt right at your RS5 density, If that's what you want this Is zoned RS~.1f you want RS5, I think ......'rt lalklng about a technical mallor only 000 aspect of this wholt thing. BocauSt what wo're trying to do Is provide a whole multi.facelOd plan, And that's what It Is/ a plan that Incorporated dlfferont designs of very residential looking brick and clapboard siding, a lot of common arta, a lot of landscaping, handicapped accessibility, attractivo walkways within the complex. tho things that wo thought wo wore responding to the neighbors and the PZ Commission, and PZ slall. We wore led to btllevo by the way, and I'm not blaming anyone for this, that when wo changed from lIratof all from 116 to 112 to 10~ and then In the nogoUaUons with PZ dropped to 104 that \'It woro going to bt In compliance. It was only af~r the fact that It was comple~ly re-drawn again that oh you just missed It again a IItUe bit Well, that's 09 far at this point as anyone's willing to go. And I know what you'ro asking. I know exacUy WIlat you want me to say Is, If push comos to shove, wo11 go to 100, I can'~ I can't mako no guaranl.OO of tha~ whalSOOver. Larson/ Ho. Ho one 86ked you to do that BocauSt I don't want to bt extorting or, but what I do want to ~II you Is that I wanted you to expound on that bOeausolt's a reallssuo to a lot of people. I ~nd to agrto with you on everything that you said, that It's a detail and It's a oochnlcaltypo thing. Hanlck/lt's an Important facet I would also say from my conversaUons with neighbors and Uley can stand up here and say tboY didn't say It or that someone elSt has a different opinion, Ulat the oblocUons have . - n I 0 [I . -----; · ~ page 16 bttn flied not almost IOO~ but 27~ 01 tho neighbors, are baSfd on tholr concerns about prt<odenet btlng 6ft lor denslly btlng solin the ptnJnsub. I think, I agree with thom.1 undorstand that's a concern, I. again II you say that this Is an OPDH 6 vs. an OPDII 5.1. lbe thing thal ovtryone has to undorstand Is that this Is a vory parUcular plan lbat gots acctpted by clly or nol and U:alll anybody lalls to carry lbal ou~ It gott back to the drawing boards. Which means back to planning. back to lbo stall. and back to lbe neighbors. so It can't go any other way eY:tpltxplldUy What you'rejudglng right now. And I wan~ I don't want to take that trot lined boulevard ou~ and I don't want to cut down on lbelandseaplng budgel Larsonl Thanks a lol lIanlckl But wt want to have tho right kind 01 project Any othor quosUons I could answor. 1I0row/llust had a quesUon In lerms 01 When Ws parcel was sold to Polar ~k. was Polar .~k aware lbat lbere was desire to downzone this by neighbors to RS6, or RS 5 at lbat Ume? lIanlckl Absolutely noli was never aware 01 that mysoll. Hayek I I think they wore probably aware 01 thal Bocaust I know that they wort vory carolul with all tho mlnu~ Irom all tho prior procoss Whert there was an appllcaUon deadline, so a couple 01 years ago maybt? courtney I We are going to need YOI} to get that on the rocord, Marian didn't pick that up. Hayekl Let me say this. I don't know What they are aware olin terms 01 tha~ but I think that they have always relied on the Oakes-lIodge approved In place plan as their fall back poslUon, On that I am certain, Horowl Wtll but then. Okay. But that's. lIayek/l can't answor Susan Whother they wore or no~ but they wore very carelul to get minutes 01 prior meeUngs. that may have been aller they had bought the land. I don't know. I wasn'~ I didn't represent them at that Ume. Horow/Okay. lIanlckl Any other quesUons? Larsonl Thank you very much, Kevin. that was very helplul, Hanlckl Thank you. Courtney II assume there are othors who would lIke to speak to this Issue? Abigail Van Alieni Samo laces, CongratulaUons, All 01 you have won, Had a little musical chairs, congratulaUons and thank you John McDonald lor 4 years 01 listening to all this. McDI Thank you Abby, Thank you. . - n I E' . I . · ~^ page 17 Van Allon/ Welcom., D.1rroll Courtnoy / Th3nk you. Van Allon/It'. hard to got up hor. and go through all this again and hoar a lot of tho thing' wo'Vo boud btIOlO, but thoro.,o ,oally co many dotaUslnvolvt<! In this that wo do forgol Sovoral yurs ago I prosonled not only IndiVidually to pt'Oplo but alSO nere tho commltmonlS of flood Insuranc.. I did rostarch on building on tho 1l00d plain. What has happtnod to plactS that \'Nro bullllwvnty yoars ago. Tho rtsulta, It.thatls anothor hoarlng. This has to do with downzonlng. But I can't holp to want to answor right now somo of tho things that I have hoard. I look on this plot of land all of tho Umo. May I romlnd you that It Is not\ust a rlvor that ll00ds Il I t Is tho 73 acrot that drains Into It and thoro Is wa~r on that land all of the Umo. Como to my hOUSt tomorrow and," It. \A~'lust talk about tho downzonlng. I can't help to say at this umothatalso one of tho roasons Iowa City Is so popular and It Is btcomlng donSi with PfOplo that aro moving In to It Is that...... do havo opon spaco and a boauUful onttancoln to tho city. Open spaCt Is ~rrlbly Important. I havo had my ttoublot with taStY Cook ovor tho dtnsity of dtvolopmont and lot's havolt donSt ovory plact. You can't havoll Homosltad fought hard for conttal park. What would t1tW York City bt now without that long extension of open spaco. It Is ltrrlbly Importanl You must glvo Umo and ~nsldoraUon to this and IIs~n to your staff that recommonds open spaco. for that roason I am all for tho clus~r zoning. Absolu~ly. It Is tho way to dovolop that ploco ofland Is through c\us~r zoning. So you do havo moro open spaco. About this Umo 30 yoar. ago In 1961 tho oxcavaUon for our homo was done but not boforo we had thoroughly looked In to and had ovory confldonco thatlho R I.A zoning would bt malntalnod In tho aroa. I cannot btgln to count tho numbor of Umot In tho subsoquont thirty yoars that...... and our nolghbors haVO had to apptar boforotho P(l. Commissions and tM city councils In ordor to protett ~ur Investment. Thoro aro InvostmonlS othor than Polar Bock In tho area. And to urgo thOSt bodlos to provide us with nolghborhood security. During thOSt 30 yoars tho city has spent hundrods and thousands of dollars of tho tax payors money to fund tho Planning Dopl and numorous zoning studios, Consls~nUy,tho staff of tho Planning Dopl and tho oxtenslvo studios have rocommondod that this aroa shOuld be malntalntd In at UIO lowostdonslty, In tho 1960 thoro was tho Bartholomow (sp1) Ropor~ amondtd and up daled In 1976, 1963 and as roconUy as 1969, . - n I 0 e - 5A pago 1& And though, I am not going to go Into all tho roa$On. why, Il b<<amo R.& Il wa. rt<ommtnd by tho sl4l1 and by tht study th3tlt bt R-5. I think wt art alllamlllM With tho reMOns why It Is nol It dotS not moan that wt still cannollollow tho rtcommond3tions lh3t bm ~n mado. Also tho SUnloy Plan, tho rlvor corridor plan, dKCrlbtd tho Iragllo conditions 01 tho peninsula arta. Thus, thoro Is a long, long and cosUy blstory 01 low dtnslty dovtlopmont polld., lor tht peninsula aroa. Wo strongly urgo this CllY council to maintain thiS polley lusl as councils In tht past ban and also to lollow tht rtcommendations 01 tho Planning ltalland tho rt<onUy updalfd Compo Plan so that this arta can be zoned RS-5. Thank you. lam suppost to lurn thtst In. Cowlnoyl City Clork, Gentry/Darroll, during this broak I would suggest that you consolldatt tho two hoarlngs slnco PfOplO aro discussing both tho downzonlng and tho proposN OPDII simultaneously. It Is almostlmposslbloto divide thom. Courlney I You wlsb that I optn tho othor one simultaneously. Gentryl That would be my suggestion. Rather than having tvtryont get up and rehash rostale what thoy did prior to thal -5b.- Courlnoy I (roads -5b.) DtClaro thiS pll. open alSO. Kubby II know that thl. may be hard lor US. Dutlor Mlghbors to do. Dutlt would be holplullor me that II thoro Is any way that you could a~ tho risks or your valUO\udgoments about going with the old OPHH and the posslblO risk 01 doing the 03k., lIodgo pIal II the land would stay RH and II you had to chOOSO betWtOn those two, what would be your prelerenco. It might help me lust wtlgh overy thing a IIWo differently. Or II Mlthor olthOSO aro IC(Oplablel want to hoar that, too. And why. Hayekl )ustlor the record, Mr. Mayor, may I have my comments that I made during tht pll. for the prior nom also on record 00 the same lor this hoarlng. Thank you. Kubbyl Do you need a motion. Hayekl And lor Kevin Ilanlck as well, Courlney I Would you like to add anything now that we have an extra public hearing open. Lyle ~ydel/ How can you consider a socond Item when you haven't answered the ftrst quostlon? , - n I 0 ~I · SA page 19 CourtMY / We are nol conSidering anything tonlghl We are only listening to publlclnpul ~ydel/ But It you dKldo on tho flrsl quosUon to dOWll%ODO thon tho s<<ond resoluUon Is mute. It Is nothing. Courtnoy/ And wIlon wo got to yoUng on this, wo WIll havo U1al volo flrcl and then I wparate Yolo. They won't bt yotOO on slmulbnoously, LyIO. seydel/I don'l rollow your roasonlng. I ean't rollow your reasoning. If you don't haye an anS'iNr to tho first quosUon, how can you resolvttho s<<ond 000, You havo to havo an answtr to tho first one first Larson/ We can consider tho quosUon slmull.1noously and mate our decision a dlUmnl Ume. Seydel/I am lust bringing It up. I think opening both p h,S althe same Ume Is you aro oponlng up a roal can or worms, Courtney / Do you wanlthe,..1 anS'iNr Lyle. Legal advlS<<! mo to do thal (jentry / Mr. Lylo, It you ean stparate tho two qutsUons as so rar no ono has ~n ablo to stp3rate tho two qutsUons. Thon It Is a molaphysleal qutsUon. ~ydol/ (can't hoar) Courtney / Anyone 0150 WIsh to spoak to olther Issuo or both at tho samo l'Al!1 Umo. - Mf1'C1eland/305 Tart Speodway and I am one or tho rosldents ntarby that opposo tho cumnt propoS<<! plan by Polar Bt1k. And am In ravor or tho downzonlng to RS.S, HO'iNver It Is quite cloar that'YH havo ossenUally In rront or us a plan that Is goo<l. It Is good ror tho city, It Is good ror Polar Bo4k and It Is goo<l ror tho pooplethat Uvoln Uto nolghborhood. Butllako two oxcepUons. I am not going over roally any new terrain here. I am lust basleally giving you my view. And the nrstls tho Issuo or density. It Is c10ar Ute dlUeronco bot\'NOn, on a pracUcallovol, 102 units which could be consistent WlUt RS.5 or 104 units consistent WlUt RS.a. It Is lust not gotng to mako a btg dlUoronco I ean't bellovo to tho dovolopor. And It Is not going to mako a pracUcal dlUoronco to Ute pooplo living noarby In terms 01 Uto cars, tho pooplo, or what hayo you. But it will mako a big dlf(oron~ on that Issue or prKooenl B<<auso 'iN sUII hove a huge peninsula which Is going to be dmlopod. And to set a prKooent that RS.8, underlying Rs.8 Is accepl.1ble WIthin what the Comp, Plan describes as a low density or thelowost possible density or some such words like that could come back to haunt you and us and the development or Ute ponlnsula tn the ruture. So I can't see Ulat technical and pracUcal Issue Is such a minor point, That thoro Is tho Issuo or prKooont Is .".-------'----....----T. . i -.,.- - n I -, LI . · 5A page 20 really one 01 very great slgnlllcance Tho StCond Issue regards landscaping, And although I apprtclaOO S250,000 Is likely to do a very good lob of landscaping, Thoy will do a very good lob 01 landscaping. It Is my understanding that wo are missing two things, We are missing sptctflcs and wo are missing a Ume courso. Now th~ two things are Important to us In a very shOrt oorm way to the neighbors, First 01 all the Issue of sptclllcs. It Is Important what trotS are going to 00 planted, WMt ty~ 01 tr~, what kind 01 denSity, where are they going to 00 planted along Talt Spe<<Sway. Small trotS that will grow up In 20 years lust doesn't do us a lot 01 good right now, So 'tit need to know that the sptclllCS 01 what Is going to planted will give us an Idea 01 whether there will be a sulltclent visual barrier, The Sptclllcs Is crlUcal and the Stcond Issue Is tho Ume courso. II those trotS go In lal&r on, five or l&n years down the road alter they finish the dovolopmen~ that makes a huge dlllorence. We would like to '" those trotS go In oofore any development starts prOViding that visual barrier to the dovolopment. In which case I think that would 00 wonderful. So, I guess In closing, my fooling Is that II thoso two Issues can bo mot. I lust don't'" any reason why they can't boo I would strongly support Polar Botk's proposal. I think that many others would as 'tIt1l. And wo would 00 done with this. Thank you vory much. Kubby I II the landscaping quesUons could 00 dealt with, Is the prtcedent Issue so wolghted for you that you would sUII rather have RS-5. Cleland I I don't really know. Ilut I think that you and those of you who will be around for the next 5-10 years are probably the ones that are alltcted by the prtcedent Issues the most. Iltcauso there Is a hugo ~nlnsula back there. You woren't at the P(I. mootings. Ilut the numoor of Urnes that those ~plo wtnt back to IhO Compo Plan wording, to the details, Interpreted It and relnoorpreted I~ re-looked at It. Another words, they used tho Compo Plan as procodonl That Is going to hap~n again and the prtcedent the next Ume around Is going to 00 what Is hap~nlng right now. So, It lust Is my gut feelings that It Is going to be a big deal doWtl UIO road and It Is very Important to us and It Is very Important philosophicallY, And those ~ple that live on Taft Speedway long oolore I arrived. They have boon trying so long to get the zoning down to RS-5. It would almost be a slap In the lace to some not to bring it down. We are so close to doing it. Kubby I Although, II you live on Talt Spe<<Sway as long as some of the poople that hm lived on Fosl&r Road, you are the one that will have to live with tile prtcendent longer than any 01 us up here, . - n I 0 5 \ · ~A pago 21 LarSQn/lthlnk that prtctdtnt cuts both ~ys bfcauSt we would also bo> StWng a prtcooontthat says we %t.)ntd RS'6 but we madothom put It In at RS'5, I, It would go both ~ys. II you did a planntd dtvtlopmontlt had to lit at tho roallow ond I think Is goos both way.. Cloland/5, lis a IItUo vaguo. Tho 5 and tho 6 Wo had an OPDII 51, that woUld be groal But we can.t do thal LarSQnl Thank you. Clolandl Thank you. Samuol Fohr 16 Knoll~ Lano which Is off of Fosltr Road. And this Is not tho first Umol hm botn horo on this ma~r. Of COUlSt My lIayek mado, Ithough~ a vory offocUvo staltmont on behalf of his clients and I am ptrfocUy glad to say that It soomod to moln my doallng with this particular company that thoy havo botn moro, how shall I say without hurting SQmebody's f"lIngs.not that I mr worry too much about that.butlot us put It this way, I think that Utey have been very fair with us In mrythlng. I havt no complaint Whaleyor on that scoro. But I will not mako any Invidious comparisons which I, In a maUtr of fac~ lust got through doing, The s<<ond thing Utatl wish to say Is tha~ btforol got In to a vory short prtStntation, that I thought that from Mr.llayok's prosontaUon tonight c1arlflos some things In my mind that I had not.somol hadn't thought about and some that I had thought about but hadn't got any roal notion of until I hoard him talk. So It was very usoful for mo to havo to holp me mako up my mind on What poslUon my wlfo Betsy and I would ~nt to tako on this matlor. lIavlng said tha~ I ~nt to agr" on tho first placo but I won't dwell on It on tho quostion of prectdenl I havo IIvod outthero for 36 yoars now, going on 37, and In that Umo When when we camethero tho Fortst Vlow Trallor Camp which I think which was at that Umo a non. conforming uso but that Is old Umo so I am not going to worry about thal Duttho Porost View Trllller camp was thoro. Thon a largo apartmont dovolopmont was built to tho -.mt of Forost Vlow and thoro Is provision for moro to bo builtin that aroa. Thon a numbor of alm~t tudor apartment buildings wore built up to the west ot Whoro Bud louis IIvos at tho top of tho h\ll on Foslor Road at tho northwost corner of the Elks Golf Courso. Those woro llll mulUplo housing. Vory fow slnglo housos havo bton built In that aroa slneo Jim and Abboy Van Allon buill Vory tow. ThOro ar& a numbor of roasons for thal I don't know thorn all but that Is tho facl Now thon it you look at tho lorraln that Is loft on UIO so called pontnsula as I bollove it Is owned by two soparate pooplo, 111 concorn mysolf principally wlUI UIO . - n 1,0 lib · ~ p3g. 22 proptrly owntd by Dill M.udon wI1lch IS 10 th. \ml of tht country club. I know thalland InUmalfly, And thalland Is dlvldtd Into lwo plaloaus living oulth. bluffs which OVfr look th. rlv.r al plac~ IIko Indian Lookou~ .tc. Ap3rllrom thatllls lIa~ pr.Uy ~II dralntd larm land, Both upptr mt53,1I you wanllo (3l1lttha~ and 1Il.lo~r mtS3, Ilhould think lIal alllllthalll would bo a gr.atlfmplaUOn 10 cram as much housing on 10 thalllal land on which Wlllluroly go lor a vory good prlco one day, To cram as much housing on 10 Il as you could posslbl. gol. Th. only tseapt Irom lIltrtls Foslfr Rood, Somt 01 M.ardon'sland on 1Il.lowtr mtS3ls not only In th.llood plain but Ills In th.llood zon., Bullllerels a lol 01 land both upptr on lIlo upptr mt53 and on lIlolo~r mt53. Now my Irtond ,rom Tall $pOtdway bravtd tho quesUon 01 proctdonl and I am nol going 10 lIog lbal horw anymorolllan absoluloly nt<ossary, You Will have mulUplo housing lar In t~ 01 stngltlamlly dwvlllngs. You hm htard by somebody or olll.r lo build Itv.'ra~rnlly hou~ In lb. mlddl. ollllo swamp lIler. allll. corn.r 01 Tall Spttdway and Norlll Dubuqu. Slr..l. Good enough lor swd.nls I suppost. AI~r all, moslo,lllem gol rubbtr bools. Bullllal was mulUple housing. And 1Il0 qu~Uon I have II whalll going 10 bocomo olll. I havt botn In Iowa Clly long .nough lo say lIlallllorols nol a solo on 1Ills council who was on lbo council whon I cam. hero. Councils como and councils go. You cannol bind mn yoursolvos roally and suroly nol your successors on 1Il0 councUlo any kind 01 plan so long as you stay WllIlln lbo gonoral Ilmlls lbal say o,llle Comp, Plan. Dul apartlorm that you can am~nd lbat Compo Plan, and Il has boon dOM, So I do nol pul my lallll In princes. I did not say lbatl dlslrust you p3rUcularly but I know lbal olllor poopl. are golnglo como along. Ills In 1Il0 nawro olllllngs. Nono 01 you ~ro on here so vory Il)ng ago. And you will ovontually wanllo do somolblng 0150 &nd thal will bt lIlal. Tho pooplollvlng lboro Will sUII bo 1Il0ro. That Is ono big dlUoronco lbat you havolo lblnk about. Now, lboro aro olllor asptCts 01 lbls plan lIlatlllllnk oughllo bt consldortd, I must say lIlat I agroo willi Linda Gonlry and lIlo council. You can'l discuss 1Il0 downzonlng apart form Polar ~, I don'lllllnk Mr.llayo" dlscussOO lbo downzonlng at alloxcopt by Inloronc.. Bull didn't objoct bocauso It soomtd lo molllatllloro lIloy art. Slarlng us In 1Il0 faco, both of thom, Now, I am concornod, howevor, about OM 1Illng, I had somo small part 10 play In lIle dralUng ollllo reslrlcUvo covenants at River lIolghts, I havo not . .. - n I 0 '-1 ~ # 5^ pag~ zJ tollowtd tho dOVtlopmont or chang~ In tho r~lItcUYO coyonants at Rim lIolghts stnc. about 1970 That Is a long Umo ago Thty may hm mado changes, Thoy hm had somt probloms I know In k~plng corlaln kinds ot ~ndonclos out ot thtrt. I can't Sft UI.1t any .ttortls bolng mado In tho elilts ~ do anything ot tho SOIL TIIoy aro ~lrln9 boddlng and drying out tholr clothos on th. b.1lconlos wllonovr tho woathor ~rmlts. It glvos us an ImprtsSIOn sort ot conaonlallty wll.n you drlvo Into town. Slnco thoy built so clos. to tho road and don't havt any IIHS your oyts are dlsllack-..1 by b.,-..1dlng and some my nlco towels. Now tho point Is Is that wlltn It Is all said and dOnt, I agrto that tho price ot thoso units proposOO by Polar ~k WIll provont most studonts lrom buying In, Prob.lbly most parents aren't going to want to do il But I nevor having botn conlrontod WIth such a dilemma WIth my child ron, I havo no Idoa how Individual partnts can bt countoo on to roacl But thtrt Is a growat danger thatontorcomont Will bt on paper and not In tacl Who Is to entorcoll Thtst rtslllctivo covonants art among tho pooploln tho organlzaUon. Thoy aro tho ones wllo havt to onlorco thom. Cortalnly tho neighbor. hove no standing, dlrocUy atleas~ to complain Is 011 th. happens Is that six PfOplo arollvlng In a dwelling meant tor tour. I don't think we havt any slandlng to complain as tar as I know anyway. So that Is a very groat worry to mo. I am somowllat roassured by Mr.llayek's sta~mont on tho othor hand, that thoy aro gOing to do a lOb ot building slarting right ott and going all tho way through to complttion. I ctrlalnly hope thal thalls truo. Bullt would mako a big dlltoronco to us neighbors It Il dragged and on and ovory so ol~n tho roar ot th. bull dozor would bt hoard In tho land and anothor building would bt going up and tho road would be closod, Thal brings another matter up wlllch Is tor tho council to consider. Ills ancillary to tho qutstion ot wllothor Polar ~k should build thoro or nol It Is also Is a problem brought up by thal and thalls the qutsUon of trame. And the prOCOOentiallSSUo also Is In tha~ As I said ooloro.11 you hay. multiple housing on Mr, Moardon's land and you gol Foster Road, Nobody Is suggesting Taft S~way or wllotovor you ~lIll Il Will bt modo Into a s~way. It's going to be Fos~r Road thal Will ~rry all that traftle. And It Is going to 00 wo wllo IIVO thoro wllo aro going to have to try to get out onto Foster Road at rush hours, And trom Fostor Road wo WIll havo to wall our turn ~ go onto North Dubuquo, Whether you Will ovor bogln to mako a loft turn thoro withoul a slop light Is a gool quesUon In my mind It thoro or. vory many moro pooplo, It doesn't matlor wlloro thoy comolrolll as lar as Ulatls . - n -I 0 8 ',' 6 5A pagt 24 conc~m~, I think that thost things that the council ought to give tht grtat&st concorn to. I think that tho council, whatever Its VIOW on tho matter mntually, I think that tho council ought to 00 vtry scrupulous In this dmlopmenl This Is a crucial dovelopment lor the City of Iowa City bt(aUSO If this gotS down tho drain. If It aS$umos tho form of tho lIodgo Podge plan.that was a Freudian slip but an accurate ono, In my opinion. If It bt(amo a hoogo podge plan it would 00 too bad for tho dty, I think. I regard that plan as atrocious. Always did, I could novor soo what tho enthusiasm was last yoar. But at any rate, I don't soo that enthusiasm today. So, I say I think the council Is under an obllgaUon that If It changos.lllt ro2Ooos, That IS'You aro asking to rtzont this so calle<lldylwlld tract from tho currtnt plan to tho proposal of Polar Btik. If It Is ro2Onod It ~ms to mo that It ought to 00 mado as c10ar as t>osstble and '1M do havo tho stafl horo as well that this plan Is going to 00 carried out and that It Is going to materialize In tho form In which It Is OOing prosonWd. Which I say In my opinion a vory good prosontaUon and an attracUvo plan. And thoso are.thoro are many othor things that you could talk aboul I wouldn't want to live In a flood plain. I romomOOr, about a yoar a go that was I~ tht late Proftssor Ktnnody saying and tvtryono know that ho was wrong, that It would rain again, But It turnod out that ho know somothlng In spite of OOlng a profossor and It did rain again. WolI, It Is going to rain again. But that It tho way, In my opinion, that we living up on tho hili thOre, cannot dlrecUy concorn oursolvos with, But It ought to 00 something for the public. That Is to say you as their reprosontaUvos have various scrupulous concorns about bteauso It will 00 somobody that OOars the cost of any kinds of roallossos of property that occur In that parUcular tract of land. WolI, I havo said allllntendod to and more, Thank you vory much for your hoarlng. Courtney / Thank you, sam. Mary Ella Whlte/ 121 Talt Speedway. My husband 11m and I oppose tho dovelopment of Idyllwlld whIch IS n~ nows to you I am suro. Wo are alroady soolng the eflects on our property of the llll brought In on the Idylwlld property by tho previous owner. The last two summors of flooding have shOwn an Increasing change in where tho water tablo rlsos In our yard. Tho dlsplacemont from tho fill at tho flood lovols '1M havo soon Is causing now and hlghor aroas of standing water In placts In our yard nover soon by my family's history 01 ownorshlp 01 60 plus years, Our contention still stand as we have previously statOO that damage will 00 dODO to our property both by this development and projects such as the raised elovation of Tall Speedway for the . -. n locI . · 5^ pagt 25 pmmtnl program thal the clly will have to punutlor the develo~r. Ills sad to me thal a gr~n 6pace, a lormer corn lteld can'l be allowed to stand wlthoul the dollar 61gn ap~arlng as the standard 01 dtvtlopment. Open gr..n space becomes the targel 01 develo~rs as wo can personally alt4St to. AIt4r ~yinB togal tHe lut you In cJ tho thousands 01 dollars to defend four foot drainage pipe from Idylwlld beCause our proptrty had optn green space. The faclls and remalns the projoctls In the 1I00d plain. I would like to close with a shorl quotaUon of Garrison Keillor from his bOOk lr'Jvlnc Jl..lfIJ~ 'Ufe Is complicated, nol for the Umld. Ills an experience that wlltn It Is done It will take us awhile to get mr It. We will look back on all the good things we surrendered In favor of deadly trash and wish we would have returned and reclaimed them. We may sit In a cool corner of hell and wish we had kept the ballpark, built the shOps elsewhere and not killed oll all those cornltelds." Thank you. Carol Seydell 12~ Taft Speedway and 14~ Garden Stroot. I was going 10 bring a visual aid lonlght. I would like to address two Items. First of all, tho ltallle-you havtlo think about It. I was going to come up and say art you listening, I know this Is geWng too much but the trallle Is going 10 be horrendous. The lI00dlng Is going to be horrendous and I really think bOfore any further steps should be made thoso two Issues have to bo addressed and I think that we aro going at this backwards. I think the proposal of the large buildings. I think that they were referred 10 as cookie cuU.r hOuses-would be pr(lbably an excellent Idea. Thore's too many of thom. I don't even think that RS-~ Is good. I don't kn?w where YClu can go from therll. But they.lt would look very nice out thero but you have 10 hayo wider space and I think as far as landscaping, I was going 10 ask If they were going 10 haye underwater plants or something like that to plant there because It Is going 10 1I00d. If they build It up hIgh enough they are going to haye the lI00dlng In the church parking lot which Is bad now. OUr sIde will probably not get lI00ded because of the Talt Speedway Is so low and It will kind of act as a creek taking water from us, The land In the parking lot In the church area Is going to llood bocauto the land Is going to bo up here and the walor has 10 go down, So I really think this whole Issue Is beIng approached just backwards, I haye saId this before. You hayelo address how you are going to get poople out. It almost-you do Dubuque ltrst by widening It and raising It and handling the water problem which has to be handled up on the hill, It can't be handles down bolow because my visual aide was a bowl of walor and When you art digging a slorm water detention area In tills . ..... . - n I ., [I , 5A p.1g. 26 flood plain. What you art doing IS Imply putting a sl.1lner bK4U$t tho wator Is going to ~m. up as (ast as It Is going to ~mo down, So you art g.Wng wator that com" up Is going to fill your storm wator d.tonUon and thu.ls nol going to bt anywllor. (or the storm water to go. With on.lltU. dralnag. pipe you can conltollt bul not all of It So I r.ally ask you ptepl.. I don't .v.n know how 10 say this, To downzont, way down and first of all addr~ th.lssu. of Dubuqu. Stt..~ tho flooding and th.n put the opon sP3~ In, But you ean't.1 don't think you can do. I don't mn think you can put the Hodg. ma In or you can pul this ar.a In Without first of all handling the oth.rs. KUbbyfCan wo gol som.ln(ormaUon (rom public works about thatlssu. of wII.n you dig wa~r Is coming up (rom below and wII.r.ls tho wa~r going 10 ~m. (rom above or from tho flooding, !lorow/l spent about an hour and a half and th.y WIll be abl.to fllplaln It Th.r.ls mort than on. pipe. Th.y art slantod at two dmtrtntltvtls to g.t lwo dl((.rtnt flow I.v.ls of the river. Kubby. Will that be tnough btcaUSt It Is not lust In one space that II you dig up. That If you dig any plact on that !lorowl He calcuJatod this all out ae<ordlng to th.. Kubby/l would Ilk. !lorowl Th. ground wa~r, right Soyd.l/ls so high th.ro, It Is the sam.l,v.1 as th. rlv.r. Wh.n th. river goos up, that goos up. It Is ~nstanuy gOing up and down, C1tar across th. road. So stormwaltr d.ltnUon Is not going to h.lp. Cubby II would Ilk. a m.mo ouUlnlng tho Public Works poslUon addrosslng that spt(lfIc point so that I understand how th.y believe that their plan Is lako caro. !lorow/l WlIlIAII you. It Is .asl.r lust to go and talk. Larson/l would Ilk. to sot It too. If th.y put It In a m.mo It lore" them to think It through so It doesn't tak9 an hour and a half to toll m. about It I think th.y can ltlllt to me In two paragraphS. CUbby lOr two pages. !lorow/l cam. up WIth mort quesUons than they wanltd to deal With. KUbby I Thon maybe wo nood to have th.m be at ol,lr Informal m~Yng wilen wo discuss this. I think that that Is an Important quesUon that Is In my mind. I nood to h.ar (rom them how the dev.loper's plan Will d.al With that spoclllc Ism. And th.y cay that It Will so I nood to understand that t , . ,- n' I ., '1 · '^ page 27 "orow/l gutSS my qutSUon Is no malWr WlIatlllt plan \o^)uld ~,It \o^)uld sUII hm to hm storm wa~r do~nUon. WhOlhOr It \o^)uld bo CIIANCinAPIl TO RiEL Q).S $10; I "orowl managemtntof U1at Kubby I Somt of us volild no In U1t past bf(aUSO It was a flood plain. period Even U10ugh thorels an ordinance but looking atth. health, safely and ......Uar. of our clUZtns. ^nd so nttd, for mysoU,that ans......r Courtnoy /lit has alroady shook his hoad ovor thoro. Ho can do It Cathorlno Gay 15 Knollwood Lano. Think It would ~ possible, Mr. Mayor, to ask mrybody to sbnd up for a mlnult and U1tn sit down, Courtnoy I ^s long as you all Will too. Gayl While I sign In....Thank you. I would concur With my MIghbors that havo spoken r02ardlng downzonlng bKauso I do U1lnk U1at Wt havt to worry about U10 prteodtnt bolng sot In tho ar.a. Now almost all of us havt bttn quilt pleased with many of the U1lngs that wo havo ,"n With Polar Btck. HowoYtr I havt to say that suroly U1atthtY Wtrt awarothat Wt had ntlghborhood mOtUngs and U1attho neighbors havt rtslslild development In this area and that many of U1oso neighbors havollvod for oven morothan forty years In U1ls area. I am talking about now our Irnmt<!lalt neighbors to Idylwlld. Tholmmtdlalt surrounding poopl. around Idylwlld. ^nd with all du. rtSpoct for th. devoloptr I don't'" how they can guaranltt that U1tst so callt<! owntr o<<uplod units will fit U10 dtSCrlpUon that wo havo as a nolghborhood 10.15 yoars down tho road, 1 wanttd to sharo a troffle problom with you. It Is a truo story about tho Cliffs, Now apparonUy thoso students that aro living at U10 Cliffs aron't vlolaUng tho morothan thrOt rulo. But I gu~ that U1oro aro only two parking places per apartmont for thost U1roo follows. 1 had a call from a grandmoU,or W110 was roally oxasperalod, I think It must havo boon tho ond of tho month that this kid got his towing and ho didn't havotho money and ho didn't want to ~II his folks so hoask his grandmotllVr. But anyway, It ap~ars that tholasl person In thoro somoUmos can'l find 0 plaeo to park and thoy park III02ally and no parkod III02ally and mn though hols a rosldont no was movt<! out So sho callod and wanlod to know If thoro wasn't a garagothat no could ront In tho aroa, ^nd tho kid was perfocUy willing to walk soveral blocks If he could lusl find a placo to park his car, Well, there wore none that wo know of, So thon sho callod . - n ./ ., e. \ 1 , 5A page Z~ Parkvlew Church and ask It they would consider renUng a place to park and that said no but they said that you are not the first one to ask that has ask us about this. So I think that w. have to really consider density ror our whole area and parUcularly I would like you as a council to consider thelmmedlatt neighbors at tho momont B<<auso this Is what Is oorore you at the moment And I know that It Is dllltcult to dlsagr" WIth the P/Z Commission and not be dlsagr"able and I hO~ I hmnt bftn Ulela~r. But I do take e>>:epUon to their vott, Thank you, Courtney/Anyone elso. Ode Trlmble/lllvt on Tart Spttdway and since 195~ I have lived thoro on Tart Spotdway. Wo havo botn In many mHUngs. Wo'vo kind or grown accustomed to mHUng our neighbors this way ovor tho yoars, We've tried to buy that ploce or ground one Ume and give It to tho city to make a park out or It This was years ago. AbboY Van'lIen had It worked out WIth Gr"n SpaCfS or whattver the name or the governmental place was that Wt provided half of the money and they would provide the other half and give It to the city ror a park. The city did not want to take care or It at the Ume. They rerusod us. We've bgen the watch dog of this area for many years. Thore have bgen a lot or pooplelnvolved. In ractabout IOOhr us. Wueall%e that something Is going to hap~n. We realize that Wt are dealing WIth a pretty good ouUll At this Ume we realize that this Is probably the best soluUon that we have 5*n yet as far as having It o~n which Wt all prefer or course. When you are dealing WIth good poople you don't like to muddy the wattrs too much because It Is a good prtstntaUon. OUr biggest concern Is the zoning. That Is my biggest concern anyway. S~aklng for myself. Since we can't have It ror a park pracUcally. It Is the zoning or the area. I put In flve homos on Tart Speedway, By putUng them In I mean I hammered them together, I built them. I have a lot or myself In Tart Speedway and In that area and I have a strong feeling ror the ar~a, I rool that this Polar Beck group has something nice to orrer the city In many rospocts. The zoning I am vllry much QPp0m4 to tM a and vory much want the 5 because or the procedent It WIll set. As Sam said It Is IIkenogglng a dead horse arOOr the rourth ~rson has said It. But I think that It Is really Important. I think It Is really Important btcause there Is a hugo area. I am sltUng next to one or the areas right now. I can certainly 5* the owners or thOSll pro~rU&S saying It thllm why not mll, And It WIll hap~n. And you know it WIll hap~n, I think it Is Ume to stop arguing and maybe Umeto sit down and deal. I think it Is Ume that . '- n I ., 3 · ,^ page 29 Wf sat down possibly mY5(llland they saId yts Wf Wlllaccopt tho ~ and make the adjustment and Ume for us to say make It nice Thatls my ftollng and my wllo's ftollng and 5(lvoral othors In thO arta. Tho 5 Is the big thing at this point With us. And It Is a very big thing ~auso thO big aroa out thoro and thoro Is going to bo a lot of thlnss Mp~nlng thtrt In the next 10.15 years, Thanks a lot Margaret i.(Donald/ Are Wf stgnlngln tonight Courtney / Yos, please, Oh. someone took the pad, Who's got the pad. M. McDonald/ Thank YOU.AOO Fos~r Road, First I want to lah a momont to congratulate our now mayor and our new mayor pro tem. Mrs. Nov,k and to say II big thank you to our throo Ume former mayor, John McDonald and to SUsan "orow. Who has boon our pro tem and to each ono of you Who so paUtnUy elt through as the Commission you have appointed have sat through many many many hours WIth the rost of us In trying to be sure that we make the right chOl~ at this Ume. There have boon chOl~ made bofore as you have boon reminded. And thoro haye boon other councils Who hm labored long hours and hard hours In order to matt tho doclslons With us to try to help have a boauUful Iowa City. Which we are constanUy complimented on. And parUcularly on the north entrance to Iowa City. And we lust smile and say yos, thank you, we are sUlltrylng. And we hOp& that Whatever doclslons are made Will be good for the future as they have boon thus far. SO thank you for your assistance and Whatever way you can do and we fool that you Will vote With your conSCIence. Now there are s?me things Which hm boon lust touched on and I want to menUon again the tralllc has not really boon strongly studios as we had hoped It would bo although there was a survey made. And we hm one rosldent Dr. Coulter Who was trying to come tonight If he was not held by medical pracUce. "oWfver he has done a good deal to study the tralllc In front of his home on Dubuque Street Which Is dlrocUy across the street from the Parkvlew Church, There has boon talk of a stop light and I personally have a disagreement With the poople who have talked about the placement of a stoplight When It Is done. B<<ause I would IIh to ~ It on a piece of flat land down In the area Whero p&rhaps the poople from Rudge Road would have an opportunity to turn and get into Iowa City Wltbout having to go east all the way over to Dodge Street In order to get to town. SO Iln addlUon to hoping that It would be on a ploce of flat highway. I would like to hope that It wouldn't be on a hili as It Will be If It placed at Foster Road Where poople coming down a hili may have trouble In stopping, If there Is any dllllcully With the surface of the road and wo . - n I .., LI · 5^ p.1go ,SO J lean altfst to lhal bt(aUSt somoUmes we hm to go all lhe way down to Tall S~way In order to mab a lurn to gel to our home on Fos~r Road. And In addlUon, lhe ~rsons Who aro going norlh n&Od to be ablt to go uphUl quickly Whenever lhe light changes, So, I hope lhat Whon lhtrtls a stoplight lhat somt consldtraUon Will be madt for lhelocaUon of lhat stoplight In lht OOst possible postUon on DubuqUt Str~l And lhen I want to menUon somelhlng elSt Which hasn't betn lalked about and I lhlnk lhat It Is very very lmporlanl You havt heard smral Umos lhat zoning Is ono of lhelhlngs Which Is most Important to lhO$O of us of lhe ntlghbors. We also have ScUd among ourwlvos many of us lhat we f"1 of lho plans Which havo bitn prtstntod In all of lhtst years lhat we havtlalktd about Chang" out lhtrt. And It Is ,S6 for my husband and mYStIf lhal we hm ~n many lhlngs lhal have ~n brought to us but lhls one rtally dovs stem to have more possiblUUes (or being SucctSS(ul lhan anylhlng elst lhat we have s~n. And Ilhlnk Mr. Hayek has done nice poslUon In prtstnUng II to all o( us. Very paUenUy so In answering our quosUons, However, we sUlI ("Ilhtrt are too many bUildings. And we would lib to ~ as much o~n spaco as posslblo. We Will admit lhat we hm hopod lhat we can hm a p.1rk. And It Isn't just one Umelhat we trli<! to buy Il There was a Ume only less lhan two yoars ago When we really lhought we wero going to be able to buy It beforo Mr. oates sold It to Polar ~k people. Bo(ore he bought It actually at a big prlco and It was Uten sold. When It was sUII owned by lhe ClvelndlvldUals and It was some long Ume ago When we collected money and had It deposited WlUt a trust officer at lho First NaUonal Bank. This history gots a away (rom us, But Mrs, Vantllon gavt some o( It at a Commission m"Ung recenUy When we had a ph. btfort Uttm. So I menUon Utat as really What our basic Undtrlylng hope WOUld be, That we could hm bought Uto land and given It to all of you and Uten you would hm had to worry o( how you wero gOing to design a beauUful park (or Uto norUtentranco o( Iowa City, Howevor, U we must have buJldlng we really Utlnk Utat Ute Polar IltCk people havo tried hard to consider Ute Utlngs Utat we havo wanted In opon sp.1co and to try to ~ how wator can be dispoSed o( In a proper manner Which would have to be done even U we had a park. I agr" WlUt Mrs. Horow. on lhat. Thon lhe lhlng lhat we roally aro lhlnlclng about or lhat I havo lhought about Is Ute fact Utat yes \~ are 'etUng a precedent In Utls deciSion, We are 'elUng a precedent because lhere are places In our country Whor. thero have ~n natural dlsasoors that ha.. 6 (omplo~ly Wf~ out developments. Now we say lhat It is never . - n I .1 5 . ~^ ~g. )1 gOing to happen to us bulthalls nol ~slbl.thal 'iN could consider It IIo'iNYOr this could happtn and It 011 or thow n.w buildings wero 14kon out In th. clow ruluro or In tho dls14nc. ruluro ~mo other dtvtlopor could bt broughlln and It thalls Ion to as high a denslly as & plus, I h~vo tOlQoLUn wh~l tho noxt ca~ory can ~ bulll ean ~ mor.than lusl &, Il can be up to I think Ills 12 bull am nol sur.. Mrs, Monica Moon could 0011 us IIowevtr. thalls ono quesUon thall rollod to ask Monica and sho has ~n ~rrtllc tn htlptng us WlUI undorstandlng With WIIal WO Mtdod to know, IIowom, thor.ls a posslbllily that that could bt spollod Ilnd thtn anoth.r porson could come In a rodmlop tho land at a hlghtr denslly and we arothlnklng or tho rar dlstantlulurt WIIon nont or us Will bt around. But sUII wo would Ilk. to think thalth.r. would be a beauUrullowa Clly hor. ror othor peoploto onjoy. Thon my lasl poInlls this. And I hay. said this to tho peoplo WIIo rtpr~nt Polar ~k. I saId Ilto Mr. SIbly and Mr. SlIvtrs~tn WIItn thoy brought mlno oul I hay. said Ilto our ropr~ntaUvos horo and I have said Ilto many or our neighbors. That this firm has an opporlunlly ror a salOl start rar btyond anything th.y could pay tor bo(aU5t It we do quallly building In thoso slnlclurts. And I don't moan luslth. txwrlor. B<<aUSt as rar as I can undorstand tho oxterlor Is rtally aboultht maln Item thaltho Pfl Comm. and start ot tho cily can doltrmlno. So, I don'l know how tho procoduros tor dtltrmlnlng thtln~rlor or slnlcluros to know thal thoy art going to bt built woll, But tho beUOr thoy aro buill tho btUOr they Will 1011, And this company Will have a start or peoplo WIIo IIvo ot tho aroa WIIo wllIltlltholr trlonds,tholr neighbors as thoy know peoplo WIIo IIvo In thoso properUos and thoy will. They wllIltllthom how wondortulthoy aro and how Ills roally well done and tho kind or place that they would wanlto Invosl their money. I tool thal quaHly building and donslly arothelwo big Important points In our decision tonight and I would IIkoto urgo you to consider tho peuuons strongly which m being prosonted to you and you WIll know how we rool and WIly we r..lthal way. And again I want to thank each ono or you ror your thoughUul conslderaUon. Not lusl tonlghl or us but ovory night or all the IssutS W11lch you have brought beroro you. Thank you. Courtnoy I Thank you, Margaret. Lyle Seydel I I have provlously slgnod In. Tho onorgl%or, he lust koops going. I was accusod by the developers as being the rod rabbit that goos around tho energlzor commorclal, you know Ho lusl koops going on and on and on and ho just busts In on all tho commorclals. Ilusl koop going on and on. Am I going to use 'pooch 101 or 103 or 201? I have , ... r-- f ~ . - n , ., b · 5A pago 32 eliminated lots WIth my pt'tStntaUon w. tnow that some developmontls gOing to tat. placo out th.re and wt mull and WIll accept thal Comp. Plan calls for dmlopmont of tho peninsula at 10\mt possIblo denSity, In tho Compo Plan thoro are prOVISions for c1uslorlng and thty talt about low dtnslty btlng H units por acro. Thon tho city comts along and Imploments that plan through zoning ordlnancts, Cortaln areas aro zontd this and ctrtaln mas are zontld thal Somo art zontd RS'5, P.S.5 moans slngltfamlly dotachtd dW&lIIngs, minimum lot aroas of 0000 sq 1l A tract of land of one acr. or greator Is bolng subdlvldtd In this area, a max density of 5 dW&lIIng units ptr acro. I undorllno the ~rd maXimum, RH provldts for dtvtlopmont of a small or lol This rtprtstnts a relaUvtly high dtnslty for single family dtvtlopmonl Duploxos are pormlttod as a provisional use. Slnglofamlly lots rtq1llro 5000 sq.fl and a duplox lot rtqulres 6700 sqllll a tract of ono acre or morels btlng subdlvldtd In this area tho max Is 6 dW&lIlng units por acre. So there Is tho ansW&r for tho city council, The maximum out there of RS.6Is 160. That Is the absoluto maximum, Not 200 or 212 that was given to you last night While the ordinances limit the maximum numbor It doosn't say anything about tho minimum numbtr.. Hey,ltt's bt concerntld about thal This Is a fragile area. WMn tht Compo Plan says H units por dW&lIIng, What Is the matlor With the 2 dW&lIIng units por acro? How about 40 units out on this tract? Tou ~uldn'tget n.ar as much objecUon. Tho Homoowners aSW(. Who enforctS those? Tho homoowners themselves, So What art they going to enforc.? Something that they wanl Not that th. city wants. VtgtlaUon In th. development plan oven In the, It almost SlIpptd ou~ tho Oates.Hodge subdivision, ther. W&re requirements for troo planUng, And that's requlrtd by city ordlnancts. Rogardlm of your Yolo, Whether It's ayo or nay on tho downzonlng thollnal devolopm.nt plan, I ~uld rosptcUully requost that you require not only requlr. but demand that the InstallaUon of alllnfraslrucwr. that a detalltd plan of all the landscaping bo pr~nted and approvtd by th. city before the first building pormltls Issutd, Others hm addrqssOO th~ problvrrls of Uiv trallle, the noise, the school denslUes, and that sort of sluff. I ask you as tho elected olllctalsfor all the city of Iowa City, to consider tho Impact or this on all of tho city of Iowa City, and thon volo In favor 01 downzonlng. Thank you, Larry SCMllller I MMS Consultants, 1917 S. Gilbert Stroot. Tho neighbors are very correct In that there has been a lot or ~rk and study done on this piece or ground ovor the yoars, I porsonally worked cn 4 different . - n I . , ,-, · ~^ p.1go JJ i I I I ! i i I I prol~l$ Somo of them I h.mn't betn too proud of; they ~ro What tho dfYflo~rs wantfd to do, so granlOO, \tN aro at anothor Sl.1go In this thing, Tho thing that I w"uld IIko to Impross on you Is that Uto approval of Uto propostd plan Is a significant down%Onlng, for this am, Wo'ro down:onlng It from RS3 ~ OPDJI plan that ~,I dWlllns units ptr aCto, 26 bUildings conl.1lnlng 104 dwolllng units, ThKO 26 bUlldlngs,1f you dlYldo Utat out Into Uto 20.6 aerts, Utat's ono bUilding for oach J/4 of an acrt. That's a prtUy gOOd SIZed lot art3 for a building If you want to look at It that way. IT also mtans,lf WV wvr. to look at tho original subdiVISion, ~ had thr" bUildings ptr 8cro, ThOSt arotho relaUvothlngs \tN'ro l.1lklng about fllthls rathor optn spaco plan silo. Thoro's boon somo quosUons on Whothor or not downzonlng or this plan w"uJd ~t a pr~od.nllthlnk that It doos, I think If you approvothls plan as Is, you'ro $OtUng a deflnllo pr<<tdont for anybody olst Who wants to dovolop In that aroa. You're making a stalomtnt that you'ro not going to approvo high donslty zoning out In that area. 'CaUst If w& 10m It as RS6 or &YOn If WO zonolt RS5, you're saying tho samothlng. You're making a statomtnt to WhotYtr wants to dmlop anything out In that area that low density Is What you're going to hm, What \\It Will allow. I Utlnk that In elthor sltuaUon \tN aro giving a doflnllo stalomont to anybody olst Who wants to devolop In that area, Lyle mado a common~ I don't want to got In an argumont about I~ about tr"' bolng r&qulrtd In a SUbdiVision. Only a vory f.w sltuaUons Whero trees aro r&qulrtd In a Subdivision, and not any w"uld havo boon requlrtd on Uto Oakts.Hodgo subdivision that I'm aware of. Larsonl Larry, bofor. you leav., I bought Uto Idea oarller of th. developtr paying for sidewalks around this, or at loast paying Into O$(row to havo thost sldowalks construclOO Whon Utost roads aro brought up to standards. Would 125,00000 a ballpark flgur. for that? Wo'rolooklng at 2600 running foot for tho Wholo way around and ton bucks a fool? SChnlUjer II think Ulat'd 00 somoWhoroln Ulat aroa, I Ullnk WO'd want to dO an ongln"rlng osUmalo on It OOforo \\It'd say. Larsonl I just wantfd to got somoldoa of tho ballpark flguro of What \\It'd 00 trYing to gol SchnlU/or I Tho roason sldowalks woro not shown on Ute curront plan around tho ptrlmotor was that unUltho SU"ts arolmprovtd, thoro's roally not a lot of point In putUng sldowalks In thoro boeausothoy'd 00 damag&<! slgnlflcanUy In construcUon, Larsonll agr". I just want to got Uto monoy now, hold in O$(row unUI U1OSO s!roots art brought up to standards. . , - n I ., EI . ,I I I I I I , I \ · ~A page 3~ Schnllller II can'l say thal the dmlopm are WIlling to pay that I.4rson/llusl wanttd to confirm the numbtr, the tsUmalt SchnlUjer I Thalls one posslblUly. Larsonl Thank you very much. Thal was a loll~ than I thoughlll would be quilt frankly and tha~s makts Il more conceivable thal a developer would throw thalln. Horowl Larry, I've learned an awfullolfrom you, I really have In this whOle OPDH business, I think you ~re,IL starWd to be talked about when I flrsl was on PZ and you certainly hm taken parlin the discussions aboul that. Il lOOms to me thal the original conceplof OPDH was to han within an existing zone, a method whereby open space If n~od to bo for stormwaltr managtmtnlor whaltvtr, would be sol aside and tht samt dtnslly could be achltved by c\usltrlng or by a design within this OPDH. Bull don'lever remember thalll was sol to achlm lowtr density al a hlghtr zone. And Il S*ms to me and I don'l wanl to be silly aboul this, bullt sooms to me to be Uke a UWe bit prtgl\ant. this zone Is RSO. And mn If I~s doslgntd at RS5.I,I~s still RSO. Larson/No,ll'd be OPDIIO. SchnlUjtrl Ildoos not Horow/l~s OPDH bul It Is still underlying zone. Schnll~er III carrlts an OPDH zone on the zoning map. And my fooling Is ~'ve gola fallacy In our zoning. If the thing Is In an approvtd plan In an OPDII5, I or 5.6 or whaltver elso wt've got In toWII, wt need to have something that shows on the map what thal density Is. 1I0row/Then you, by your rationale, the whole rost of the peninsula would have to be OPDH and ~ would have to be assurtd that someone as good as Polar .~k would be developing the rest of the peninsula. And hOW can ~ possibly do thal? SchnlUjer I You can't. Horowl Tha~s right. Schnlt~er I and I gu~ the thing tha~ there's bOOn some discussion about 1M Meardon tract out there. And I don't know the exact acres of that thing. but there's a relatively small. The upper peninsula area Is Immen~ly 6maller than the low flatland around It. Horowl Right. I've driven around there. Schnllller I When you've got a, even a 6mall perlmeltr dimension around a large area, ~II for Instance, the 200 foot area around this tract Ul8t wt ~re requlrtd to calculate that the neighbors 20:t area might be, that 200 foot strip around the outside of this was almost equal to what was In the Inside. 20 acres about, . , - n , .1 cl .\ I , ~ pago J~ 1I0rowl Um.huh. S<hnlUjor I So It d~n't l4ke a my largo strip around tho outside to toqual what's on tholnstdo. And WhatI'm loading up to on tho Moordon tract Is With aU tho low lJalsround around tho ouWdo 1.1IO eould ond up with. lalrly high donslly dustmd on tho con~r 01 that thing on top and still bt Within RS5 donslly. So It'S somothlng that you'ro gOing to hm to look al And tho thing that you'ro gOing to hm to look at btloro you go too much larther Is how many lolks you want to have live out there on one a<<OS1, 1I0rowl That's rlghll agrH.1 agrH. Kubbyl Whalls ho currontzonlng 01 the rostol the ~nlnsula, RS5? S<hnllllor I Tho curront zoning wost or this silo, with tho oxcepUon 01 a low spots Is IORS. Kubby I Any development that would hap~n there would have to como to us to bt rezoned In any cast, whether there Is a procodent sot or nol S<hnlUler I Rlghl Anything that hap~ns out there has to come bolore you lolks, and belore thOSt lolks and whoover tlst wants to bt Involvod with Il Kubby I And anyone olst who wants to, If lor some reason Polar-Bttk would want to pull out and It was zoned OPOH3, somebody wantod to come In and do a dtlferent kind 01 devolopmon~ It would have to come through the whole proem again. Larsonl That's rlghl Kubby I Of ntgoUating OPDH, Gentry me OPOII, I want to clarify thal The PDH Overlay Is a zone. And It Is mod In the re<order's olllce. Itls on the map. And In order to remove that or chango this plan as specific as It Is with respect to malorlals, location, etc, It would havo to bo rozoned by you. It could not bt changod otMrwlst, Ills different than tM subdivision, Larsonl This Is all that can bo built there. Ain't anybody going to come In and built somellllng lIIat goes up to lIIe- Genlry III you ~r. to approvellle opposod OPDll Overlay It could not 00 changed wllIIout council acUon. Horowl That It true. But the numbors would have to stay at I O~, Gentry I No. llorowl What would they bt able to go up to. Gentry I The next Ume It came to you,you are rlght.lt could go up to lIIe overlay or lIIe RS-3. Horowl That's right, Larsonl . , - n Ie' [I ,I , 5A pago J6 O.ntry lit ~uld sUII havt to com.. IIorow/As somebody has Solid. ~ art not gOing to bt horo lormr and lorovor. Larsonl And I understand Ibal That IS only It ibis prop0$31 doosn'l get buill IIorowl Well, bul We ~nt Ibrough Ibat onco btlor. WlIb OPOII or any zono U, God rorbld, Ibo Whololblng should collapst or bt dostroytd.lbe underlying zonols sUlllbero and It 'Nt ~ren't Ibor.. ~UbbYI They have to bt built as Ibat subdivision. And It Ibey want to chango It. "orowl They havo to come b.1ck In. Courtney I This Whol. Une or reasoning here b.1fl1os m. a IIW. bit It 'Nt zone It as RS.5 and a 1I00d comos Ibrough Ind Wipes It oul A ruture council can come back and rezone It as R$.3 It doosn't ma~r one dlrecUon or Ibe olber. Therols always gOing to be dlrroront poopl. sltUng up hor.. Larsonl That Is how I r"l about lb. Whol. prt<tdent quosUon Is. And along Ibat Uno or roasonlng, It wo approvtd ibis Iblng Ibon wo would havo to go In and rezonelbOSt RS.5s along Tart Into R$.3s. I am not saying \\It would do Ibat I am just saying Ibat Is lb. rollow Is you btUtvt ibis precodent argument I don't Iblnk Ibat ibiS precedent argument maktS sonse. JIlSt becauso \\It approve this development thinking It Is bt~r Iban some RHs doosn't mean Wi have to downzonethe Whole rost or Ibe peninSUla R$.3, Courtney II have trouble WlIb Ibe staooment Ibat ibis sots a precedenl I WlU a<<opt Ibat It conUnutS a precedenl I n tho same area you already got a trailer park, you'vo got condos. and mulU ramlly already Iber.. This doosn't sot any precodenl It may conUnuell The precedent has botn sot many years ago. SchnlUjer II guess I agr.. WlIb Ibat to some ext&nl The zoning on this piece or ground has boon Uko Ule ground waoor. It has gone up and down and lip and down WlIb Ume, SO. I Ullnk that once Wi estabUsh ibis plan In place, It Is going to late a lot more ror somebody to changoUlls Ullng In the tUlurolbDn What wo aro going Ulrough tonight Nov I Larry, I have a quesUon about ibis plan. A couple or poople have Iberels only one way In or out Isn't Ibere any secondary access ror emergoncies. SchnlU/er I Thore are two secondary access points Ibat are a IItUe blt.lbey Will bo someWhat obscured because Wi don.t Inoond that poople Will bo using thoso on a regular basis. The primary access It a boulevard onto Foster Road, SO that Ibere are t~ stroots at onelocaUon that , , - n I e 'I ' ,\ · ~ page J7 pr~umably In a dire sltuaUon could bo blocked by some emergency vehicle or something, So they havel~ acc~ points out One of the access points Is In the southeast corner acrOS1 the strett from Mr. Trimble's property and the other access point Is In about thelo~r third of tho proportl' alonB tho EIlto on no namo cttHl So thor. aro t~ emergency access points to this sight. Itorowl And are both of thoso exits on to the strett wtlere It ~uld not tit lI00ded. In other ~rds you figured wlltre Tafl ~uld not flood. Schnll~er I The 000 on Taft Spetdway and-doos hm po~nUal for bVlng lI00ded boceuso the elevaUon In front of Mr. Trimble's property Is bolow the hundred year 1I00d Iml. 110 name strottls onUrely above the hundred yoar 1I00d lovel. Courtney I What Is tho current owntrShlp of unnamed strett. Schnllllor I That Is a good question. Gtntry/l can answer that question. It wan county owned. It was dedicated to the city. Since It was vacated the county has to dlspost of It to either side. Schnllller/lt has not been disposed of. Gentry lit has not boon disposed of. Courtney I Ills sUII a county owned stroot. Gentry/ltls sUII county owned since we vacated. Courtney II didn't know Whether the Elks had went down and claimed It wtlen It was offered to them or not. At one time It was offered to them and all they had to do was go down and claim It. Gentry II don't know that. Courtney II think you ~uld know If thoy didn't. Schnltllor I Wasn't the condlUon of the vacaUon sublect to thelnslallaUon of one of the sUetts In the Idylwlld subdivision. So Il couldn't be vacated yet. Gentry I SoundS like It Is In limbo but once vacated It.lt doosn't revert to the city. Courtney/lt Is not a city stretllt Is a county. Gentry I Easement. I (can't Mre) Courtney II am not suggesUng anything. It was lust asking a quesUon. I didn't know wllat had happened to It since the last go around, Gentry II have lost. Abigail Van Ellen/(can't Mar) I don't care about your.1 mean I do caro about your precedent wtlether It Is RS.5 or RS.&. I want to point out from wtlatl said was the precodentthat you are selUng, You have usod tilO tax payers mOMY ovor tho yoars, You had tho Bartllolomow (sp?) .. , - n j e e 't \ · 5A page ~O report. You have usod their money to update It In 1970, 190~. 19M You have u~ It for the Stanley Plan, You have u~ the tax payers money for p3ylng your staff. Having planning staff, The planning staff and thtst reports have told you that this areas should bt...the 5 and both the Commission-the Pfl Commission have simply Ignorw this. Made a mockery of all of thtst things where your tax payer has bttn u~ and If you do not stick to the RS-5 after all of this The amount of money that has gone Into It. All thtst surveys, You are making a mockery of your zoning, AbsOlu~ly. You are making a mockery of using the tax payers money to advise you as to what to do. Advise the Pfl. That's the pro<went you'Ve set. Any questions, please. I want to make that really clear. Hovl You are very clear. Courtney I Anyone else who hasn't spoken before would like to spoak. Mr. SCott. You are going to clarify the whole thing for us, right. Tom SCotti I wish that I could. There Is just a couple of Items that I would like to darlfy, Mr. Mayor. In regards to the possibility of unrelated people or students living In the complex. The Iowa City allows two unrelated peoplo to equal a couple and In both the RS-5 and the RS-O zoning ,It allows one additional roomer In both of thO"..o two low density zones. The other Issue I would like to answtr. Tho question was askw a number of times tonight whethor or not Polar Beolk was Informw of tht difficulties of thiS partiCUlar tract concerning r~nlngs prior to their purchase and I can ~II you It Is my understanding, based upon convemtions early on, that staff advlsod Polar ~k prior to the purchase of the proporty of the history of the property. The othor Issue on the non named str*t. It Is my understanding that when the Oakes 1I000ge subdivision was approvw that the vacation of no named str~t was sUblo<t to both the construction and the dedication to the city of Sage Str~t. And Sage St. was the propose<l north-south str~t that ran along no name str~t within tM boundaries of tM propo<'..od subdivision, TM last comment that I want to make Is probably more complex. TMre Is some dlsagr~ment botwoon legal staff concerning this partiCUlar Issue. But I do think that It nwds to bo brought out and YO\lllll nood to know that the Commission did In fact take consldorable stock In this particular position, It was my understanding when Dana Issuod tho memo that there was agr~ment In tho Legal \)Opt. on this Issue. Now I have had conversations with Linda and with Dana and with Karin Franklin prior to Dana Issuing the memo to the Commission and prior to discussion of this particular Item by the Commission, But It doos ~ T , - n I e ~I ' \ · ~paat ~9 dtal WIth whether or not the o.,ktS lIodgtS subdIvision has legal standing II In fact tho property Is downzontd to RS'5, I know that Linda has at loast has Indlea~ her dlsagrtvment with this particUlar coneluslon, But none tho loss, tho Commission was apprl~ of It and I WIll toll you that this particular memo was wolghtod as Influential and at least somo member1 of the Commission In tholr decision, It's a memo from Dana Christenson, c13~ tlov, 15, 1991, to the c\\alrman and commissioners of tho Iowa city P{Z Commission. And It Is In spodfle rtsponso from tho Commission concornlng tho legal standing of tho o.,kes 1I000go subdivision and spocllle roforenco to wtltthor or not the duple>>>, would be allow.d under tho RS.5 zoning lilt was downzoned. And I quote from tho momo,1'hO final plat....(roads momo). At tho timo of tho approval of tho final plat tho property was zoned RS.& which c1asslllcation allows for construction of duplOX structuros by right. Without going Into somo of tho caSt law that Dana quotes I would rtad tho following on pagothroo of his memo, "In . order to dottrmlno..(roads momo) Hothon goos on and says (roads memo). 110 did Issuothls as a.as ho says on tho last page, · As noltd In tholntroducUon.Jroads memo). That parUcular momo was received by tho Commission and as I said It did carry significant wolght to tho Commission's dollberaUon and discussion. And I think you noted with somo dogrotthO consternaUon and a IItUo bit of scurrying around When Linda said to you all that tho o.,kOS Hodgo subdivision final platted has standing, That was (.ontrary CIIANGETAPETO REEL 92,5 SIDE 2 Tom SCotti The only other comment that I would like to make Is the othor Issue that was ral~ during this partiCUlar PDH discussion and you all touched on It brleny. And that Is that II In fact this tract Is to be done.ls to be anything done dlfferenUy than what 19 proposed It will require rozonlng. The only f1elllblllly that the motion to approvtd contained other than that Is which Is contained by ordinance was on the number of strueturtS, Wo IImltOO or wo gave tho dev.lo~r tho nolllblllty to Increaso of deereaso tho two struelur&S. ThO only two that woro approved. And that aro tho Issuos that I wish to elarlly, Mr. Mayor. Aro thm any quostions. I will try to answor thom, OthOrwlSt, good nIght. Nw / I have a quesUon... I would like to read Dana Christenson's memo to P{Z, can tho council got a copy, -". r-- -,.... . - n I ,~I LI . , 5^ page 40 Gtntry I Yts. But 'IN'rt not talking aboul 1M samtl$Suts hm Wo art not talking about standing and I think thoro ntOds to bt IOmo c1arlflcaUons of wIlat tho quosUons that D3na was asked and was ans'INrlng and tho qutSUons that I was prtWn~ WIth Mro !cnlght and anl'INred. And thtrt Is a lot mor.to the s!cry In tfrms of I~al analysIs by simply. Tho plat Is not gOing to go away, Tho pIal IS a proporty rlghl That quesUon was not alkt\! and apparonUY was nol dlscu~. ScoUI No. Undo, as you 'lN1I knoW, b3std on our tarller discussions and you all know wIlat thol~alltrms that D3na wan~ !c got Into, 110 koplOd hlmsolf out of that parUcular lorrl!cry as best that I can undmtand. My point of tho momo being Introduced IS that II was part of tho discussion on tho part of PIZ and part of tho dtUbmUvt proctSS and 'IN did dopond on Il As IlndtcatOO I thought \lit had rosolved all of our dlfforoncts but !cnlght wIlon you IndtcatOO that-you 6urprlsod me beCauSt 'IN ovtdonUy had nol Gontry I Well, then, There has bttn IOme mlscommunlcaUon, I apologize for thal Larsonl You lost mo on tho rolevanco of Il Gontry I I'd IIkoto know If wt might how your dellberaUons would have differed bo(aust your yolo was against the downzonlng, Scotll That's troe bUt part of the reason.there 'lNre certaInly a numbtr of reasons wily the Commission did wIlatlt did. ^1I1'm saying Is that the appllcablllly of duploxes btlng built under RS-5 zoning was oot of the Issues thatllle Commission addrossOO and one of thelssuts 'IN spoclflGally asked Logal for an answer and this Is tho answer that we wore glvon. That yes, the plat stands but no, the dupleXts not If we downzoneto RS'5. Duplexes are not a pormlttOO use under tho RS-5 and could not bt built under the RS.5 zonIng. Larsonl And so you didn't want to doWll2Ono beCause you would 00 taklnK away tIlo rights of tho Hodge oakes developmenl SColll That's CQmcl Larsonl NOM of that has anything !c do with my d~lslon on this, I don't nood !c hoar anymore about Il I understand your explanaUon now SColll Thank you, Nov I Bolore we clOst tilt p.h. can we add thelelt&rs we r~elved !cnlght and also thelellor that came In the mall to councllmemeoors from Mr and Mrs. PaUl on Normandy Drive, . ( -' niP s . - - ,\ I . ,^ page 41 Larsonl s.condl Courtney/Okay, IlIllnk we mgolng lO n~ lO acctpt lIllS correspondenctlnlO bOlIl olllle phS wpara~IY or slO<o we art In to bOlIl 01 them now would you Ilk. to do It as one, Gontry I Might as well tlovl Voto for lIlls lor bOlIl public hoarlngs. Larsonl Second Cour tney I OkaY. Any discussIon, Allin lavor-opposOO. on tht mau.r. Kevin "anld:/1 would Itke to clarlly one thing that Tom menUontd, I am not sure what was doar abOutlL When lIle P{1. Comm. vo~ lor tho approval 01 this proposOO plat he talktd abOutsomollexlblHty. thO lIexlblllty doos not have to do with any numbtr 01 units. Only thelact that thero art Lwo styles 01 buildings, S1lghUy dUltrtnt styles 01 b\'lIdlngs. Thtro was somolloxlblllly abOut how many 01 tach, Thert could be no more than 75' of one typo, It had nothing to do with tho numbtr of units. Kubby I That was dear In the mlnutts, too. Courtney I On the mallor 01 doslngs this public hOarlngs, I am almost a IIWo hesitant to do thaL We haYO wvoral questions that have ~n ral$td, Ont pertaining to the walor sltuaUon. Ont pertaining 1.0 tht posslblHty 01 a IItUo bit of wiggle room ono way or the other Mro. Anoth.r ono lust ralStd Is 1.0 this parUcular m.mo m.ans ilnd It SHms som4I dllferences within our own legal stall. 5Ul1 am not convinced 01 thaL If we dost those and th.rt are any negoUaUons that take plaCt we would have 1.0 go aMad and volo and tho whol. process would have 1.0 start over. Gentry I (can't hOar) Larsonl Can W& just conUnue thts9. Kubby I Could be chOOSt 1.0 volo the samo night we dost the p.h. Courtney II would wish 1.0 do thaL If W& choost 1.0 continue bOth 01 those pUblic hearings to tho next. mooting that we also have some sort 01 volo scheduled lor that night.. I think It Is only lair 1.0 all parUts Ulat we get this thing 1.0 some sort 01 a dostr one way or the other, Larsonl What's U1e agenda, Darrell. Is U\ls going 1.0 be on next time. courtnoy II would suggest putting It on tho next mooting. I am not sure that because wo have continued the p.h, lIlat we n~ 1.0 go back through all the commonts again. I would hOpo we wouldn't hav& 1.0, But anything now that comes up In between we certainly would want 1.0 hear. Kubby II move that we keep the p.h. opon until the 21st. ".,.".., ,.".. : ,. ~ ..,': . i - niP h - - ,I ! · 5A page 42 Larsonl ~nd. Both public MarinS'. Courtney I Okay. That would bt the pUblic Marlngs concerning th. z.9106 and z.91M and 5.911 \. Moved by Kubby, 5<<Qnded by Larson, Any dlscu~lon. All those In favor- (aytS) Oppostd- The chair declartS a seven minute rec&S1. , , - n I e ,-, ' 'sc pago I COurtneyl Moved by Ambr, seconded by Larson. Discussion. "orow/l don't want to drag this out but I am concerned abOut scr~nlng along tho river. I think tho natural.we have asked peoplo when Riverfront and Natural Arm commission to tako a look at It easoy Cooke was dlstrOS$ed by this, AS I understand I~ I havo driven back and forth looking at It As I undmtand It now thero Is a six foot high fence on that sldo of the property. Not yet but that Is where It Is going to bt. I am assuming that all of the rtst of the things that staff has asked have bttn fulfllled. \.arsonll have a hard time understanding the split I guess. I don't understand why Ann and Sally and pooplo I know caro about those kinds of things would vot& for It EverybOdy other than Casey If It wasn't adoquat&. Nov II think, having road through tho mlnut&S of the RF Comm, I understand part of the reasoning thero. Thostaff recommended to the PIZ Comm. that this SCt'Hnlng bt vlowed from tho levol of the river. If you \Wre In a canoe. But the RF Comm. said the roal point of the scroonlng should bt from the park on tho other sldo of tho rlvor. And I agrH with them. I think that thero aro going to bt far moro people In that park and far more peoplO on the trail which will also be on the west side of tho river. And those are the people for whom we should be thinking abOut scrHnlng. And, though I am really In favor of the City Carton Co. and I don't want them to possibly think that I am nol I think that they are doing a great job. this particular slyle of busln~ Is not known for noatness. And neatntsslS not something we require of them. SO I think mayb& we can ask that thoy provide scrHnlng. And If I had my way I would ask that they provldo scroonlng on tholr property south of Ilonton as \WII because I think that think that this Is only btlng a good nolghbOr. Larsonl What would that do to this proposal If we decide we want to side with nalural areas Is that to add some more scroonlng there. John Ockenfels/l will address those Issu&S. Tho Issue of ser"nlng, for opens. WhOn this first \Wnt through to the Pfl, correction. the RF Commission, the RF Commission approved this loom 7/0 In favor. And thon It wont to ptl., At ptl. Casoy Cooko brought up tho point that ho felt thal there should bt scroonlng along the RR tracks. And the Issue btlng that as put I~ you can stand on tho other side of tho bank and look across. The problem with all of this Is the facl that we are not the property holder to the riverbank. ThOre are several hundred foot there that btlong to the Crandlc RR that Is a commercial district and It , - n I e EI ' · 51: past 2 II &ltong.lot Ills nol a RO.W 01 RR trackS. Df(auso they have to throw sWltchos and go 011 on a sorlos olllvt soparate tracks thal dead end.thal don't go to any plac.. The ser..nlng rulos as they are wrlUon would apply to tho RR nollo UI, t lak.. pr.Uy strong tX.mpUon wlth thal I agrood to th,'.nc.. LArson/ You losl mo thoro, John. You coutdn't pul scrHnlng thoro bolWHn your proptrlY and the RR. Ockontels/ We are going to bo using ono Stlol thOSt RR tracks lor loading oulbound. Thalls Why 'lit aro nol puWng In. The other sltuaUon thor.ls thal 'lit ean'l pul serHnlng In there boeauso the concrete goos right to the RR tracks rlghl now as dOtS the edge 01 the building. Lorson/ You nttd lonctt wlth gatos Whothor than 11m or shrubs. Ockenlols/ Thal's corrtel The oUler thing Is thalln order to gel somll1ucks In and oul ollhal proporly WI) have 10 pull all tho way oullo tho exisUng edg. 01 the concrete to back a soml tractor thalls going to boo standard trailer length Is 531ttl Thalls Whal we deal wlth, The tractor In Ironl 01 thalls another 20 ltel Talking someWhere bolwoon 60.651ttl ollongth 01 semi truck thal nms lwlcell's length to maneuver In. So In order to gel Into the loading docks we have to pull all the way oul to the RR tracks and then back up. What Casoy wanted was trOtS In that arta outlront and there Is already trOtS on the river bank. I would really suggest that you go out and take a really strong look at thal There arelwo trOtS on the river bank that have a diameter excmlng lour loot In addlUon to Stveral other trees that have lessor diameters. 1I0row/ Bul the dlamoter Is down al the river edgo. It Is not up Where 'lit are talking aboul Ockonlels/ Thero Is also a lot 01 growth ollowor shrubs along that riverbank. I guess my point Is Is that lOOking at the lact thal you are talking about scrHnlng someUllng Ulalls going 10 have RR cars storod on It as soon as they start hauling coal again lor the Unlvorslty. That IS What thalls lor. So we aro going to havo a lonco that Is going to be behind IIn sols 01 RR <4f& Ulat.1 have already acknowlodgod that Wo are going to do that lor you. The slzo 01 the park that'lltare talking aboul I am going to ask you to consldor the uUllzaUon 01 Ule pocket park 300 loot across tho river looking across tho 11009 on the river bank on both sides 01 the bank 01 the river, live ~'ls 01 RR tracks, and thon you get to our proporly. Now I think that It Is getUng pretty lar letched to be honest With you. . ...... . . - n I J~J Cf . ,\ , ~ pago 3 ~ubby /If thtrt Is concrolt thoro now and tho concrolt stays how could you. Od:onfols/Ilcannol bo. It has 1m to do With thuXlsUng concr.1t than tho nocO$$3ry turning radius for trucks. Larson/ this Isnt lusl a qutsUon of you lusl cant afford to do tho wotnlng, It roally would Inltrf.r. dramaUcally With your uso of tho proporty. Ockonfols/ Randy, I think thal wIlall showod you on tho Bonton SUHL Sldo, Wbal wo aro doing thoro voluntarily. Tho btrm thoro \tI3S my Idea from tho start. Il.....snt somothlng thal \tI3S nocossltalod by somobody tlst. W. took a roallntfrtslln tho facl thal wo would lIke to brtak up tho visual apptarancts thor.. I had somo proUy strong commonts to a couplo pooplo al P14nnlng, If tho City \tI3nttd trots so bad, Wbon tho City built tho brldgo why dldnt tho City planl somo trHS thoro. If wo aro thal bad of an 'Y' sort on our property. Ambr I John, you knOW, I roally thought wo had this rosolvtd lasl night At loaslln my mind Il was so perfocUy clear to mols thal wnatls bOlng asked Is ridiculous and Ilusllmplor. tholadlos and g.nU.mon of the council. I have hoard mort than ono, Including mYStIf say In campaign rMtorlc through the yoars thal wo musl attract good clean vlablolnduslry horo that pays good \tI3gts and all that. Bul wo havo our groaltst obllgaUon to tho buslntsStS that art already h.ro thal art trying to .xpand and cr.alt moro. And I! all the busln~ that wo have In our community reprtStnlod by the Ockenfels family Is so Umely and so btnoflclalto the environment of Iowa City and everything elst I can't bOlleve that'lltare puWng thtSt poople through this kind of rig and a roll. Kubby I But I think when you have two Commissions that both IIsltn to and have different opinions, I think thatllls okay for us to qU05Uon and afltr last night. Ambr III Is alright to qU05Uon bulto put tho man through tho grlllllk. this again afltr ho wonl through It last nIght. I simply don'l understand Il at all. Kubby II think there Is obllgaUon to rethink things. If I have a quesUon. llorow/ Thl. I. a river city. W. bm already abrogated the rlvor corridor to moslof tho University. Within the past few years wo have ~n looking at the river In ltrms of what Is on either side of It and wo havo bt9n making thOGo ownero on either 'Idolly to bring the river corridor up to something that would be beauUful. John lust happens to be located along the river. I don't dlsagroo With. John Ockenfolsll dlsagroo With you on that. What 1 am saying Is that I! somobody should nood to bring the rlvor up.the river corridor up to , - n I .~, [I · ~ pago t standards that you ~uld lIke to ~, it Is tho Crandlc RR that OWllS tho proptrty that abuts the rlvtr. Horow/l know but wo novor got anywhero With thom John. Ockonlole/I bayo no control oyor thorn wbaloo ovor. Courtnoy I Thon dOll't punish him btcaUSf you can't gol anywbor. W1U1 Crandlc RR, Ockonrols/ That Is kind or what I havo bttn saying all along, Anothor lhJng that I would lIke to make ctoar Is that the roason that Wt're here tonight Is that 'IN are planning on building a building on that proptrty. If wo ~re not planning on building a building, put 100~ or the procts$lng Insldo that building, wo wouldn't be hero doing lUl LSNRD program. W.'d be sluHlng our papor and our cardboard and ovorythlng outsldo lIke Wt havo bttn doing ror 20 years and you would 9ft It In the neighborhood like you have 9ftn It ror 25 ytarl, But 'IN are horo tonight Wo arolmprovlng our processing. Wo art building a b\lJldlng that Is going to bo 75 rOft Wide and thirty root high so Wt can dump all or thOst trucks Insldo 01 the optraUon. W. art sptndlng S600,OOO on that lot to Improvo It Wo aro taking the brunt or tho loose matorlalthat 'IN aro doing ocr 01 tno oxlsUng corner. That was tho whole goal that wo starttd WIth whon wo starttd doing this. Ilt(aUst wo Ust to prldo oursolvos on thelactthat Wt could do our whole optraUon Insldothoso buildings and ~ didn't havo to dump anything outsldo. On tho last J.5 yoars as ~ havo soon a tremendous growth In roeycllng, Wt havon't botn ablo to kttp up bo(auso or tho sl~ or our building. And now Wt hav., when those buildings beam. avallablolast yoar,lt prtstnttd us WlUI8R opportunity that wo did not hm bororo. Tho Umlng In out Industry Is not tho right Umo to bo building buildings, W. didn't go out doing this to make 0 lot or money. We are doing this simply beauso or tho ractthat wo have a dramaUc nHd to do IlIC wo are going to conUnuo to keep the opttaUonslnsldo. Courtney I Any other discussion, Roll call. TIIo motion pas$VS, 1 I i I I j \ t I i 1 l \ I I t I I \ . . - n I ~, 'I Agonda Iowa City City Council Rogular Council Mooting JallU4'Y 7, 1992 Plgl 6 ,\ i ITEM NO.6. PUBLIC DISCUSSION, -().. ITEM NO.7' ANNOUNCEMENT OF VACANCIES. o. AlrpolI Commlulon . Onl voclncy lor I Ilx.yoortorm ondlno March 1, 1998. lRlchard Blum'. lorm Ind..1 b. Alrpon Zoning Board 01 Adjustmont . Onl voconcy lor IlIvo' yoortorm ond1no Fobruary 26, 1997, IJohn Ruylo'. torm ondl.1 c, Broadbond Tolocommunlcollons Commlulon . Onl voconcy lor I throo.yoor torm ondlno March 13, 1996. (lilY Stovons' torm onds.1 d. Commllloo on Community NOIds . Throo vocanclos lorthroo. yoortorml ondlno Morch \, 1996, (lo,ml 01 Andy Plnzlnor, Jim St. John, Ind Robollo POllick and.) o. Historic Prasarvatlon Commlulon . 11l Ono vaconcy 'or 0 throo.yoo, torm ondlng Morch 29, 1996, 'or 0 roprasonlotlvo 01 Summit Stroot Dlltrlct, (Jay Semol's tarm ends,) 121 One vacancy lor a lh,oo.yoar lorm ondlno Mlrch 29, 1996. IKovln Hanlck's torm onds.l Tholo appolnlmonts will bo mado at tho .fcblu8ly-18, 1992, City Council moollng. ~A.. :3 j~r f . - n ,-~~, e II .7 pagt I Courtntyl Announcomtntol vacancltS_ Kubby II would IIko to challtngt all 01 us to get some women to apply to Iho AIrport Commission and Iho Airport ZOning Bo3rd of Adjustmonl Sot 'Nbat wt can do. I I , . , - n I ~'~I "." Agondl lowI CIty Clly CMCU Rogllllr Council Mooting Jaooory 7, 1992 'Igo 1 " 1 ITEM NO, 8. CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS, I. Consldor rlcommondlllon 011110 Johnlon Coooty Board 01 SUptrvilOlI 1/1I1 Robon Wlchal bo rooppolntod II tllo JohnIon Coooty roprOlonllllvo on tllo Rlvo,lront and Naturll Atm Commllllon lOt I tlvoo'Ylar torm Inding Jal\U4ry 1, 1m, Action: '~l.lft~ / I.t~ I 11/(' n~rJ) ITEM NO, D. CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION, &r.J $/ttll; ITEM NO, 10. REPORT ON ITEMS FROM THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY, I, City Managor. ..-1)- b. Clly Allo,noy. .J,,~ ~v . - n ,I 9 LI "9 pago I CourtneY/City Coundl InrormaUon Kubby / I do hm a couplo or Ilfms, I WIll totp lbtm brlor. Aclu.1l1y I WIll cut It down to two rrom lbrot and I WIll ult anoll1or nlfhlabout somolblng ol~. 11lIttd to lCCOO today a IIWt bltabou ~nllngll1o City to writ. a loUtr to lbo Corps or Engln"" asking wbat lbolr prOCtSS and Umotablo WIll be ror rtspondlnato qutsUons brouabt up at public htarlngs and In wrlUtn rorm as woll as PfOPloshoWing up at lbo hoarlngs about lbo raising or lbolml or lbo rtsfrvolr. I would IIto.JCCOO dtddtd to Wfltt a lolUr Inquiring, My moUvaUon Is lball lust Wilnt lbo Corps to tnow lbal we alolnlfrts~ In lbls Issuo ~u~ It Will hm somo atrocts on Iowa City. PossIbly ~rUcubrly In lbo am lbal was or much coundl at tonight I Wilnl lbom to tnow lbat wo arelnlfrtslfd and wo want to be topt updalfd on lbo proctS$, So I WOUld lito to movo lbat we wrltt a It~r to lb. Corps or Englneors astlng lbtm to tttp us Updalfd and What prOCtSS lb.y WIll USt to anMr lbo quesUons lbat woro ralst<! at lbo p1l, CourtneY/I don't lblnt we MctsSarlly nft<! a moUon, Any oblocUons rrom council to wrlUng a le~r. Sttv. would you droll lbat lollfr. Atklns/I'I tate care or lbat Kubby / Tho olbor ,"UO lbat I havo bttn lblntlng a lot about Is lbo rrustraUon lbat a lot or us havo oxprtsSf<l Wllb lbo stalf and OUR. And parUcUlarly about lbe romedlal wort lbat nft<!s to be done at lbe land rill and lbat wt have a plan lbat we submlllfd, Tho OUR hands are Ues bocauSt lbey don't have starr. The money Is lbore ror stair. Because or lbe hiring rroezo at lbe statt levol lbey can nol use lbat money to hlro starr so wt can got on W1lb our wort or cloanlng up What wt nttd to clean up. So I hm bttn trying to brain storm as to how can wt get somo movement In hore. Ono or lbe lblngs lbat I havo lbought about was gelUng a hold or our stalf legislators and aSking thOm to make a modUlcaUon about tile bUdget rroeze or tIlo hiring rrooze and lbat It should only be ror new monies and not ror monies that are Idly sflUng there and have already bttn allocalfd, Thll othllr thing I think that tho s14tt would be much more responsive to Is somll kind or preompUve strike against them. And I don't know legally If thoro aro any opUons. But wo can do II provonlaUvolaw suit or somo kind or reverso InjuncUon Where Instead asking that something doesn't hllp~n wt ask In a law suit tIlat somothlng does hap~n so lbat we can moot our obllgaUons. That wt have dono ovorylblng rlno but things are screwtd up on their end and we want a court or law to say they notd to lot these poopl. movo on. I don't know If olb.r , - - I ~I 5 . · 9 page 2 peoplt have other Ideas on how we can move. I just don.t Wilnt to lit Idly by While our landlUl nms some work. Horowl Unda.1 have a qUOSUon Ute that bt(auso I romomoor back In tho '70's When Hixon had Impoundtd (und, and that Will ovorturntd bt(auso theleglslaUon had alroady allocatod the money and the court said to hJm esstnUally you can't do that Gentry I Yos, Steve. "orow/l am amazOd at that prteOdence doosn't trickle down to the statt love/. Gentry I Something similar Is oolng chaUongOd, Swve sont a poUUon (or a dKlaratory JUdgment down to me, /( WO Wilntod to got Involvt<! It would entail paying some attorney (0tS to Dos Moln.. (or Brick and Mark $buUng (sp?) Law Firm. And it Is challonglng the acts o( the govornor and tho Oflleo o( Bustnoss Managomont and the troasuror. Atklns/l didn't know It said all 01 that "orowll would 00 vory Inttrostod in doing thal Oentry I Challengln~ tho Stnatt Fllo 57 J Which atttmpted to take that money out 01 a vory sp&cl/lc pot dos/gnOd (or underground walfr prolocUon and throw it In to tho groat amorphous gonoral (und to take eart or tho de(iell KUbby lit Is not lust that that I am talking about Oontry II suggOStod to Sttvethat we lOin that It would Involve some money on our parl KUbby II( WO walt it costs us money bocaUS9the romOdlal work costs Will go up and up. Courtney IlnlfrosUng enough, Slfve and I's (Irst conference on Monday-we woro discussing somo possible agendas. It Is one o( tho vory things that I brought up. That I am ready to make some sort o( a move towards the Staw. I would hav& to think a IItUe bit about jolnln81n 1\ largor one, I think that I WOUld bo much more In to piCking a specl(lc SUbjKt that concerns our community only and going With it but I WOuld certainly 00 open (or diSCUSSion. Oentry I And I nOod to do somo r9Search on Whetber wo can challenge In through the admlnlstraUve procOdures because It Is an admlnlstraUvo agency or Whether you do It through a writ or mandamus through a Court Larsonl Let's schOduJe a diSCUSSion o( our OpUons, Ambr I Since Susan menUonOd one procOdent that happenOd to a naUonal /lgure. I happenOd to be personally acqualntod With another that happenOd In tbe Statt o( New York last year wilen Mario Cuomo . - ~, I ~ b #9 pagt 3 grabbed S I SO million out of 1M stato Insurance guanly fund for usv as o~raUon ox~nst, Tholnsuranct dopartment took him to th9 New York SUpremo Court and made him gin It back, So there are procodtnct. Wt art blp.1rU~n so that 18 good. I do havt a rathtr good friend, a Wlwnod wnlor dUnn, wIlo glv" mt advlw from Umt to Ume and ht would bt d911ghtoo If we suod tht DNR because It Is his contonUon that It Is their rtsponslblllty to k~p tht Iowa River cl9an upslmm from Iowa City Instoad of making us rosponslblt for cl.anslng It as It flows through Iowa City. I think that h. has got a point. I would bt Intorostoo to 6ft wIlat. Kubby I Ont of our opUon to bt not lust the money that Is targttoo for landfill uw but tht monl" that art alroady approprlalod for DNR staff. Bocauso If we could do something to ovtr that hiring frttze, that could htlp tht tnvlronment all through tht stato and not lust Mr9. I would IIk9 to soo wIlat opuons th9r9 art for that too. John Ock9nf91s1 Kar9n, you ar9 right on base and I would IIk9 to compliment you on btlng pro acUn on It. In our Industry as well. Th9 r9Cycllng Industry has b99n dtclmatoo by the fact that the legislature over tht last four ytars has passtd act aftor act aftor act alloWng funds for tnvlronmental protocUon and clean up and r9Cycllng and tvtry other ltom you want to use and tht govtrnor has IIntltom Vttood tvtry one of thtm. In fact has comt back and Is taking tht money from tht Upping fotS that you art paying at thtlandflll and tht taxtS that you art paying at thtlandllll and approprlaUng that money as well so you art not tvtn gelUng tht btnellt 01 that wIlat you art paying for. Thank you. Larsonl Ntxt mooUng. I have a IIWt spttch that Will takt somt Umt so I Will walt until then. I thought It was approprlato because 01 our proclaiming Dr. King's day for Jan. 20th. OUr ntxt mooting I think Will bt on tht 21st and I Will do It thtn. Thank you. McDI I havt S9vtral ltom that I bavt bttn saving up... One quick IIWt thing. I rte.'d a Itttor. I don't know It any of tht rtst of you got It or not. Dalt, maybt you art familiar With this. Thtltttor was from tht National Assoc. of Broadcastors. And suppostdly thtrtls a bill that Is going to bt on tht ~nato floor by tht end of this month that tht eabltlndustry Is vigorously flghUng, Iteame out of commlUOt last summer, Old we.1 mean I don't know tht parUculars of the bill, Are we supporting this. Should we sond a lottor to our sonators saying that we art supporung this or. l . - n I ~, :-/ ,\ I · 9 p.1gt4 "tlUng/l think It Is SJl12. W. hm communlcalfd With our roprtSfnlaUvos In tho p.1sl I can cb<<k b.1ck and SOt how r<<onl It may be advlsablo to Cfnd tho sam.loUor again, Larson/l would bt all In ravor or thal McDI Thoy said th.y lOOk at a posslblllty or a volt boror. tho ond or tho month on this. I ban no Idoa WIltro "arkln or GraSSI.y sland on this p.1rUcular Issu. and U we bad conlaclfd th.m or not on this. H.lllngl Th.r.ls a bouso bill on this too that earn. out a IltU. bit laltr that may bt d.b.1lfd at som.lalfr pofnl Th.r.ls also some d.b.1lt about WIl.thor or not this Will be d.b.1lfd as quickly as this month, Wo try- MeD/But you .ro ramlllar With It and on top or Il Good. Courtn.y I Just on.lltm. Wo-In ca~ you SOt a rathor strangolooklng rtd rtr'lruck running on tho stroots. No, we didn't buy a socond ono. Wo Will ban to bt using Coralvlll.'s. As some or you may know and oth.r. no~ we rospondtd und.r mutual aldo to tho rlr.ln Lon. Trot on Saturday .v.nlng and our larg. a.rlal truek was damagod .nough that It bas to be lakon back to Virginia to bt ropalrtd. So, In tho moan Urn., und.r tho mutual ald. agroomon~ we Will be using Coralvlllo's U nttdtd. Larsonl Do we .at that 'xptn~ tor tho r'p.1lr. Courtnoy I Yos. Larsonl Th.r.ls no.you can't go b.1ck to tho pooplo. Ambr II would bope that th.rols physical damag.lnsuranco. AWns/W. bav., wolI, we bm-protty woll soU Insurtd, Dill, on our tquJpm.nl Wbat we aro going to do Is contact tho property ownor that we rospondtd to. And undor mutual ald., can we go to Lon. Troo and domand p.1ymonl Tho answer II no. Larsonl How about tho property own.r. Atklnsl That Is What Is bolng ollplortd right now. A wall t.U on tho- $50- 60,000. .~... ,-- ,'.1' ; I i ,....,.....,.....".~.; ,..... . . << - n I ~, E' ,I , lOb paSO I COurtnoy I City AUornoy Gtntry II havt two Itfml. Holiday Inn Iowa City II clostng to soUto Larktn IDC. (sp?) WbIch litho C4hJUBrothor. from Codar Rapids II sdItdultd for aU cUy Monday, Jlnual}' 131b, mt WHk. Tho monoy 1,ln pia co and It II going forward. Tho Sf(ond Iltm II II that I want to tfU you that...... have hJrtd a now soerttary Who II Mal}' McXrlsty (sp?) and Ih. WIll btiln working In our offlct Jan. 15th and wo art rtally doUghtfd to havt hu. Kubbyl Joan Is a tfmporary. Gtntry/Tot. -.-.._--_._--...-..-..""----,-.,;,.~-;--- < ',.' . - n I ~, cl Agondl 10wI City City Council R4gtJar Council M40II/lQ J.IIU4,y 7, 1992 Paga S mM NO, 11 . RECOMMENDATIONS OF SOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, I. Consldor I racommondallon 01 tllo Rlvorlront .nd Nat~al A,... Commllslon IOglldlng ICIOOnlng tllo propolod City C6rton Company, lno, Ilcllity on tllo northwOIt cOtnor 01 Oonlon Ind CIP/tal SUOOII Irom 1110 Bonlon SII04t Patk dovolopmontlocatod on 1110 oppotlto bank Irom City Clrton Ilong tllo Iowa Rlvor, Commont: On Docombor 1 S, 1981, by a VOID 01 7 to 0, 1110 Rlvorlront Ind Nalurll ArOll Commllslon rocommondod that tho City Council conlldortllo p/acomont 01 III 10000n vogota. tlvo ICroonlng along tho lilt bank oltllo 10wI Rlvorto ICr40n tho propo..d City Carton Company, lno, IlclUty from tllo propolOd Bonlon SUoot Palk dovolopmont. A IOlalullon concerning thll mOil or II on tllo agonda alltom Be, Action: ~fi~. ITEM NO, 12. ~ CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTe AND THE CITY CLERK TO AnEST TO TWO SUBORDINATION AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE CITY OF IOWA CITY,IOWA AND HILLS BANK" TRUST COMPANY FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 712 DEAR. BORN STREET, Commont: Tho Clty'l Housing Rehob "'coram WII conlactod by HiIIl Bank 81 Trust roquosllng thatlhl Clly opprovo two lubordlnallon ogroo. m4nll lor tho ownor ot 712 Doo,born Slroot. Tho ownoll 01 laid property uoculod two 1111 lions In tho omount 01 111,000 IIcordod Juno 8,1987, ond f1,400 rocordod Fobruary B, 1988, lorllllltanco through th4 Clty'l Compr4honslvo Housing Rohobllitallon "'ooram. On Novombor 4, 199', Hill. Oank 81 Tru.t mado 0 loon to tho ownorln tho amount 01 f26,OOO to rollnanco Iho ullllng mOllgago. Tho apprallOd valuo 01 tho property Is 169,000. Tho lubordlnatlon agroomont will ostoblllh tho City's lion In . ,oeond pOll lion which II aloo tho City'. lormor position. Action: -lalJtM~1 jJ.,p JI,( j) % . -, n I LI [I Agonda lowo City City Council Rogular Council Moollng Jonuary 7,1992 Pago 9 ITEM NO, 13. i/J../ CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO AnEST THE RELEASE OF A PROMISSORY NOTE AND MORTGAGE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 327 NORTH JOHNSON STREET. 1.1. 5 I I I , , ITEM NO, 14. Commont: Youth Homol, lno. rocolvod t31,668 In Communlty Dovolopmont Block Gront ICDBallundl to pu,chllO Ind rohobllilOIO proportJoa 101 tholr SlIucturod Indopondont Living SOrvlCOI ISILSI prOOlOm. On AugUltl, 1991. Youlh Homol oxacutod I promlllory nolo ond mOltgogoln thl omounl 01 f16,648.50 101 volulrocolvod lOt lunds rocolvod through lho CDS a progrom. ThOll Iundl WOIO ulod toword tho purchDlo 01 proporty locolod ot 327 NOtth Johnlon SlIoot. Youth Homos hol boon unablo 10 ocqulro onothorlt,ucturo ond wllhol to ulotho romolnlng m,02UO In CDBa lundlto opply loword tllo fllSt mOltgogo on lhl proporty locotod al 327 North JOhnlon SlIoot. Thl City Intondl to oxoculo 0 now promlllOlY nota Ind mend mOil gogo to IIlIocttho Incroaso In CDSa oullllnoo. Roloaso 01 tho ..llIlng lion at thlltlmo will ollow Ihl Clly to p1oco I now lion on thl proporty to rollocttho odditlonol CDBa lundlng. Action: ~t11 / '1 M~,d~ I Jw~tfr;v (tJiI!J~ CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZINa THE CITY MANAGER TO PURCHASe THE PROPERTY AT 1S30 I STREET FOR THE PROVISION OF AFFORDASLE HOUSING TO A LOW/MODERATE INCOME IOWA CITY HOUSEHOLD, Commont: Thl City has ogrood, subjoclto City Council approval, to purchaso tho lot 011830 I Stroot lor '8,600. As ..plolnod In lho momo Includod In tho Clly Council packol, tho lot would bo usod os a now locotlon lor 0 donalod, lulloblo houso or lor now construction 01 ollordoblo housing. Llnlo land Is ovollablo In Iowa City lor luch purposes. ACllon: -'~IJ~HJ r/1lJ,fW ~ -------------.---........- ~r...--.~.-- -- ....- ..-- r-.---------.---~..~~----- ........ ,- n,~ I L' 'I . \ .l~ courtney I Moved by lIorow, soconded by Nov. D1S(u~lon, Kubbyl DotS anyono knoW wtly wo don't havo a rt<ommondauon Irom CCN. II<<3USO thOSO are Block Granl monl" usod lor a dllloronl purpost and usually monl" go back to tho CommlUH to roallocat4. Slnct IL II such a largo amount Courtnoy I NobOdY sooms to knOW. McDI Evor slnco thoy havo changed thoro SChOdule. ThOY eQuid havo takon that up as a stparato ltom. Bul maybO slnco tMY have changed their schedulo as lar as making allocaUon thoy plan on taking Il up at that Umo. 1 don't knoW. Kubby I But we aro saying that Ills okay to sptnd Illn a dllloront placo hOro. Nov/lt II not lIlorally a dlllorenl placo. Kubby I same program bullor a dllltrenl prolt<t and tach projecllHven II tho samo agoncy Is doing I~ tach prolt<llS ranked high, low, medium priority as a project I just wanted to bring thal to poople's auonUon. lIorow/lntorosung point. I mean wtlal would happtn Is poople would- Atklns/llls tho sam. agoncy bul as Karon has pointed oulIlIs a dlllorenl purpost lor tho monoy. Ijusl don't knoW. Kubby/l don't han a probltm with tht purpost. Ilusl wanl to make surt thal CCN had a chanco to speak to this. Horowl Can we tablo this. Kubby/l don't know wtlalll would do to Youth Hom" to tablolt CCN doesn't m..l lor awtlllo. Thoy don't m..l unUI tho 22nd wtllch Is altor Larsonl Without anyono knowing wtlothor It would caust a problom with delaying I~ I would rathor noldolay It Atklnsl My Impression Is thalll wouldn'l-I will certainty golll c1arlned to soo wtlal did occur. Kubby I Could we nnd oul and II this was a problem to mako sure thalll doesn't happtn again. I would 1..1 nno abOul doing It Courtney I Roll call- MoUon pa~. --""'---.- ) ...... , .\ I , , - nIL, e Agonda Iowa City City Cound Rogwr CMCR MoOIIng January 7, 1092 P.gI 10 ,I i ITEM NO,111. 9J.~ CONSIDER A RESOLUTION RESCINDING RESOLUTION 91,203, AND AUTHORIZING EXECUTION 01' AN AMENDED AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF IOWA CITY AND ROBERT W. FOX AND MARY FOX, HUS. BAND AND WlFI, FOR TEMPORARY USE OF PUBLIC RIOHToOF.WAY IN AND ABunlNG BLOCK 82, ORlalNAL TOWN, Commont: On OClobor15, 1891,1110 Cily Council.pprovod ROlolutlon '91.283, which IUlhOlllOd .n .groomontlOt tompatory ula Olllloot Ind .noy rlghll'ol'way "ong W.thlnglon, L1M Ind lho Inoy running 0111 01 LIM Slrool, 10 onablo Robort Fo. 10 rOlIOlO tllo building known Iltllo low. AportmonlllOCOlod In Block 62, Original Town. Tho ownor noodl 10 lOCUlI 1110 conlllUCllon 1110 ag.lnlt podOllllan .nd vohlcular lI.rrlc. IIlalll camo to tllo City AttOlnoy'l ottonllon thaI Dlvorllllod "'oporllol, lno" wal nol tho ownor 011110 10wI Ap.llmOnll, but WOI IItllorthl monagor, Thllruolullon and omondod agroomonl will rolloct Iccurato, logal owno,thlp, 101 rocordallon In Iho John.on. CounlY RocOldor'l olllco, Clly Attornoy rocommondl approval. Action: 1n"~1t//7lN~fh 7HZ) % ITEM NO,18. f/:J. 7 CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE APPOINTMENT OF MR, DOUGLAS BOOTHROY AS THE PROJECT OFFICER FOR THE ACQUISI. TION OF 20 UNITS OF PUBLIC HOUSING FOR THE HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IA05P022000, Commont: Tho Dopartmont 01 Housing ond Urban DovolopmontlHUDI has roquOSlod tho oppolnlmonl 01 0 ProlOCI Off/cor lor tho ocqulslllon projocllhal WOI owo,dod. A. Mr. Boolhroy Illhl Dlroctor 01 Housing and InspOCllon SorvlCOI, IIII approprlalO to IOloCI him OIlho Proloct Orrlcor. slorr rocommonds Ihll acllon. Acllon: ~~lJ~lI./ Jl~t!(~ ITEM NO, 11' ADJOURNMENT, !k4/I!tltl It). 5~ /.111. ad ~da t "'t - nIL, ~, ,\ . City of Iowa City MEMORANDUM DATE: J.nu.ry 3. 1992 TO: City Council FRl>>I: CI ty IIIn.gor RE: Work Seulon Agondll .nd Heotlng Schtdulo J.nuary 6. 1992 Hond'l 6:30 . 8:30 P.H. . City Council Work SOil Ion . Council Chalbers 6:30 P,H. . RovlOl/ zoning IIttors 6:40 P,H. . Parking flcllltlol 7:15 P,H, . Proporty Acqullltlon . 1839 I Stroot 7:39 P,H. . Council Agonda, Council tIll, Council con.lttoo roports 7:45 P,H. . Exocutlvo SOlS Ion . Pondlng Lltlg.tlon Janu.ry 7. 1992 Tjlold.~ 7:30 P,H. . Regular Council Heotlng . Council Chalbers Janu.ry 14 , 1992 t!losd.~ City Council Goal Sottlng SOlS Ion ; I I I I I I I I I PENDING LIST Stonnwater Hanagemont Rovlow Salol/Solicitation on City Plaza Clgarotte Ordlnancos City Conforonce Board Heotlng . Fobruary 3, 1992 Appointments to Airport Commlsllon. Airport Zoning Board of Adjustment, Broadband Telecommunications Commission, COfflmlttoo on Community Needl, and Historic Prolorvatlon Commission. Fobruary 18, 1992