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IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL
AGENDA
REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF FEBRUARY 4,1992
7:30 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CIVIC CENTER
410 EAST WASHINGTON
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IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL 1l..r*'~
REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, FEBRUARY 4, 1992 ;::;r
7:30 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS ~
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ITEM NO.1. CALL TO ORDER. f)~
ROLL CALL. 1ta-~
ITEM NO.2, MAYOR'S PROCLAMATIONS. rxil~
I. Bilek HlltOlY Month, Febtulry 1992.
b. Selutl to HOlpltellzed Veterenl DIY' Februlry 14. 1992.
c. United Wey VoIunte., Apprecletlon Week. Februory 23.29.
1992.
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SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS. ' ,
ITEM NO.3'
ITEM NO.4,
I. PrOlOntetlon 01 'Smoke DetoctOl on Ouord' IWlrd to the O.ry
Ullrich I.mlly 011814 Hollywood Boulo....rd.
CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE cONftm ~A~~ ~~;~ENTED
OR AMENDED.
I. Conlldor IPprOVO' 01 Olllclo' Council Ictlon. 01 the regul.r
mooting 01 Jonu.ry 21.1992. o. publllhed,.ublect to corroc.
tlons, II rocommondod by the City Clerk.
b. Mlnutel 01 Boords .nd Commllllons.
111 Plonnlng end Zoning Commllllon meeting 01 Jonu.ry
16.1992.
121 Anlm.' Control Advilory Bo.rd meeting 01 November
20.1991.
131 Anlmol Control Advilory Bo.rd meeting 01 J.nuory
15,1002.
/41 M.yor'l Youth Employment Boord meotlng 01 Novem.
ber 20,1991.
151 Airport Commission mooting 01 Decombor 17, 1991.
/61 Sonlor Contor Commission mool/ng 01 Novomber 25,
1991.
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Lt~u~nant Rog~r J~ns~nl Flr~ Dvparlm~nt Mr Mayor and ~oun~1l I am hm
Ulls mnlng as tho lIrst Clro olClcor (lrltho S<OM to r~pond to a
Incident at the Gary Ullrich residence. It gives me a great deal 01
pleasure thvrvloro to present bolore you a very poslUve award to this
lamlly In our community. It's an award that r~ognlzes people WIlo
~apvd or prmntM serious Clr~ loss and Inlury after bolng al~rt.?oj
by UI~lr smoke detectors The Smoke Dog award establlshed by Ul~
Sl.1~ Fire Marshall's olllc& uses the acronym Smoke Dog WIltch stands
(or Smoke [)O)tector on Guard, ~ause Ilke a guard dog. a smoke
detector sl.1nds watch mr a home eS~lally during the night WIlen
I*->plt art sltoplng and tht most vulnmbl~ and WIltn mostllr&s
occur. This award prOVides Ilvlng prool by tM prmnc~ 01 our
rt<lpl.nts horo tonight that smoke <le~tors do work. Tht award
provld~ us In th& Iowa City Flr~ [)o)P.th~ addlUonal compon&nt to our
~ucaUonal campaign to slgnlflcanUy Incr&as& and ~ncourag~ Ule use
ot smoke d~tectors by all clUZ~ns In Iowa City. It's ~n ~sUmat..'\Ithat
o( the 600 Iowans WIlo dim In (Ires mr th~ last 10 yms, ~rhaps
halt olth~m could hm ~n savM had a smokl) dotector wen on
guard In th~lr home. ~ause more than halt 01 all tatalflres occur at
night While people are aSltop, overy homo noMs smoke detectors to
wake th~m up bVlor~ smoke mrcomes th~m. In tho early morning
hours on DocembVr 23. a smok~ detector soundvd tho alarm and
awak~n~ Mr. Gary Ullrich 0110 14 HollyWOOd Blvd. DtSl:overlng his
basement tull 01 smoko, a call to 911 was placed. At 2:42 that
m~rnlng. a structuro alarm was sounded at th~ rtr& [)o)pt. yielding 2
engine companies, one truck company and a battallon chl(o(. As the
first flrt oCllcer on th~ tirst arriving unit, I dlscovored modera~
smokt In tho lo~r Iml o( tht home. A systematic soarch was
IIlIUaW, mntually yl~ldlng a taulty sump pump motor to bo the
sour" TM Unit was d~MrgIZed, the bUilding was cleared 01 smoY.e
Our total on seeM Um~ was 32 mlnu~s. CI~arly Ulls was not a major
'hallil1gti to our llro lighting r~urcl)s and capablllUes Thio ioviont was
howmr slgnlrtcant In demonSlraUng the eClecUvonoss 01 a pro~rly
malnl.1lned srnoY.e detector Had ono not boen prosont, thoso ovonls
(ould hav~ ~n va;Uy dillmnt, ~rha~ ~v~n tragiC I ho~ you'll
lotn mo then In applauding 1110 loreslght, rosponslblUty 01 tho Ullrich
lamlly to Install and maintain smoke dotectors , not only tor tholr own
protection, but lor tholr lamlly and lrl(onds as woll Mr Ullrich, thanY.
you (or providing thiS vory poslUvo oKilmple III clOSing, Mr Mayor,
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J'd Utt to r,mlnd mryoM, smok~ de\l.'I(tors are our lIrst 11M 01
dtrtnst ag4lnU rlrt. No amount or planning and pracUclng 01 esca~
drill WIll ~Vt you If you ntvtr wakt up, Plea~ t*p your smoke
d.t<<tor wortlng. Studt" hm shown, WIlli. ~ns or millions 01 homos
hm smokt dtt<<tors. roughly ontthlrd or thOSt art not In good
working ordu. Thts. tndangtr thvlr ownus by (mUng a lalso sons.
or security. Jt's ntttmtly Imporl.1nt thmrore to tE-St and cltan all
d.~tors r\1ularly, RtpJact Ult b.'lt~lIE-S according to the
manuracturm rtcommtn&tlon. or at Imtonct a ym. Test your
dttectors onct a WHk to makt surt you'rt pro~Wd It only tal:ts a
s<<ond to ~t a dtttctor wlIlch could say. your Ill.. Thanks very
much,
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Agende
fowl City Cily Council
Regular Council Meeting
Fobtuory 4, 1092
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c, Parmll Motion. Ind ROIolutlonl1l Racommended by lho ClIy
CIOIk.
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III CMSlder 1 motion .pprovlng 1 crill 'C' Bur Pormll
lor C1yd. R. Selton dill Se.ton'l CIsh & Clrry
Market, 1331 MUlClllna Avenue. (RenewIII
(21 ConsldOl 1 motion Ipprovlng 1 CIIII oEo Boer Pormlt
lor OuIkTrlp Corporltlon, dill OuIkTrlp '500, 323 W.
Burlington. IRenew.1I
131 Consldor a mOllon approving a Cia.. 'c' LIquor
Llcen,. lor Nllh,Flnch Company db. Econoloodl
'473, 1987 Broadw.y, (Renewall
141 Consldera mOllon .pprovlng a CI... 'Eo Boer Pormlt
lor Hr.Voe Food Storti, lno" dill Hy.Vee Food Store
'3, 1201 N. Dodg., IRenewal1
151 Consider 0 motion .pprovlng a CIIII 'Eo LIquor
L1cen.e lor Hy.vee Food Storti, lno., dill Hy.Vee
Food Storo II, 501 Hollywood Blvd. IRenewIII
161 Consldor 0 motion approving. CI... 'Eo Boer Permll
lor Hy.Voo Food Slorel, lno" dill Hy.vee Food Store
II, 501 Hollywood Blvd. IRonewoll
m Consldor 0 motion epproving 0 CIon 'Co LIquor
Llcen.o lor MotU LId" dill Bo,Jlmel, 118 E, Wash.
Ington, (Renewall
181 Consldor 0 motion .pproving on OutdoOt Service Ar..
lor R.T, Grunll. tnc" dba R.T,'., B2B S, Clinton.
IRenewol1
d, SOIling Publlo HDBIlngl.
111 Consldor 0 relolutlon IOnlng publlo heorlng on March
3,1992, on the FY93 Proposed Operallng ond C.pltol
Improvomenll Budgel,
Commont: Thll resolution lOts the publlo heorlng on
tho FY03 Propolod Operotlng end Capitol Improve'
ments Budget on March 3. 1992, Detolled Inlorma.
tlon on the budoot will bo ovolleblo lor publlo Inlpec.
lion on Fobruory 20, 1992,
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low. City City Council
Ragular Council Mooting
February 4, 1992
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ROIoIutlonl,
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111 Consldor a rOlollt.lon .cceptlng tho wOIk lor tho Itorm
lewer end plvlno Imptovement. IOf Hidden Valloy.
Comment: Soe otloched Enolneer'a Report,
121 Cona!der . relelutlon acceptlno tho work lor tho wato,
main Imptovementllor Wilden Wood Part 3.
Commont: Sot oUlched Englneer'a Report.
131 Conlldor a ,00elutlon authorlzlno adoption 01 bylawa
lor the Mayor'l Youth Employment Progrom.
Commont: Tho City Council Rulel Commluee met on
November 28, 1991. and epproved thole byl.wa.
141 Conlldo, a relolutlon adopting Supploment No. 51 to
tho Codo 01 Ordinonces 01 the City 01 low. City,
Iowa.
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111 Leuer from South Eest Junior High lupportlng tho
ploPolOllor a \r.lIIe slgnol ot the Inlersectlon 01 firat
Avenue .nd Mall Drive.
121 Leuer from Bruce Qlasgow regerdlno ornco ulOlln
CN'lzone,
131 LoUe,.from relldontl on Utile Creok Lene regarding
John MOIellnd'a dovolopment In West Sldo Plrk
Subdlvlllon:
la) John FrOler and Peg McElroy,Frosor.
lbl Sylvia Mop.,
lei Poler and Bar bar. Logo.
Idl Marvin and Bonita Bryco.
(01 John and Lorralna Sooger.
(41 Momorondum from tho Tralllc Engineer regarding:
la) Stop slon on Coli Orlve and Rohret Rood.
(bl Commercial vehlclo loodlng zone. 100 South
Capitol Stroot,
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low. City City Council
Rogullr Council Meellng
flbluary 4, 1992
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g. Applicallonllor UIO 01 Stroot I Ind Public Grounds.
III Appllc.tlon hom the Downtown Association lor the
use ollldowolks In tho downtown erea 1001Idewalk
18101 during the period 01 Jlnuory 23.26, 1992,
IApprovedl
h. Appllcatlonllor City Pl.la Ule Permit.,
111 Appllcotlon hom Emma Goldmon Clinic to dllulbuta
merature milking the 19th onnlverlOry 01 Roe v.
Wado on Jonuary 22, 1991. (Approvedl
END OF CONSENT CALENDAR
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ITEM NO.5'
PLANNING AND ZONING MAneRS.
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Consider setting. public heorlng lor Morch 3, 1992, on ft resolution
omendlng the lowo City Comprehonslvo Plon by revlllng tho develop.
ment polley 10/ Aree 4 01 the Johnson Countynow. City Frlngo Aroo
Polley Agreomont.
Commont: Tho proposod revisions to the dovolopment polley lor Fringe
Area 4 would ellow limited resldentlol devolopmontthrOughout Areo 4
providod tho proPoled devolopmont moets certoln standords. Fringe
Aroo 41s the portion 01 the Clty'l eMuate"ltorlel oroo locotod northOO"
01 Iowa City olong Highway 1 North, Tho Planning and Zoning
Commission will consldor this omondmont at Its Fobruory 0, 1992,
meotlng,
Action:
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Courtn~y II~m a Franklin had SOm~thlng to say to us on thiS onv
Frankllnl W. ~uld r~uest that you not set tht ph We ~uld like to
WIthdraw this I~m. The PZ comm did m*t last night and dls<uSSM
thtlr position on aria ~ and d~lded It ~uld bot a good Idfa to have a
dialogue WIth th& (rlng& commlt~ ~auw the PZ (omm Is l.lklng a
position that Is dillmnt than WIlat th& Iring. commtttH (am& up
WIth. And so In ord~r to allow that dlalogUt to tak~ lace, w~ would
sugg~t not seWng a ph at this time.
Kubby/ ~ you hm a da~ when they WIll meet?
Frankllnl No. We do not hm It Stt ytl Probably It ~uld I>t Ground tht +nd
of February. It WIll depend on WIlen ~ can gtt tht memoors o( the
lringt (ommittto together.
Courtney / Moved by Kubby, s~onded by Horow to de(~r lndtllnlttly.
Dl&cusston.
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Agend.
low. CllY City Council
Regul.r CouncU Mooting
F.btUllY 4. 1992
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Public he..1ng on . 'OIo1utlon .mending the Comprehensive Pl.n 10
chlnge the .equene. 01 devolopment !rom PhIlO 1112000.2010110
PhIl. I 11989,19991 lor .n .... 01 low. City known II lhe oul.rn
porllon 01 tho South At...
Comment: At II. meeting 01 J.nuory 9, 1992, tho PI.nn1ng.nd Zoning
Commllllonrecommendod, by . voll 01 500, .doptlon of ComPlehen.
slvo P1.n lO.t .nd m.p .mendmenll 10 ching. tho .oquaneo 01
devolopment !rom PhaIO 1110 PhlIf I lor .n .ro. known II WhIlporlng
Mudow. Subdivlllon, genorsny loc.ted .oulh 01 L.kellde Drlvo, WOlt
0180n Air. Mobile HomOl, norlh of the low. City corporalO Umll., .nd
out 01 the centr.1 portion ollhe South Aru dOllgnatod In the ComPle.
hens/vo Plan. The Commllllon'. recommendallonll conllltent with
thlt of 11111 .1.01 forth In the Docomber 5, 1891,lt.II repott and III
.ll.clvnent.,
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Public heorlng on.relolutlon.doPllngthe Nur Soulhlld. Neighborhood
Redevolopment PI.n which IneludOl Ploporty loc.ted within .n .re.
bounded by BUlllnglon Stre.t on the norlh, Gilbert Streal onlhe out,
low.lnllrstlle Rlllw.y m.ln Uno.nd DOl MoInol Street rlghl,ol.w.y on
the .outh, .nd Modllon Stre.t on the WOlt,
Comment: Atlt. meeting 01 JonuolY II, 1992. the Plonnlng.nd Zoning
Commllllon recommended, by . 5.0 vote, adoption 01 the NOlI
Southalde Neighborhood Redovolopment Plon.
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courtn~y I Open th~ ph
Discussion
CI~ tho ph. Oops Okay
Jim St John/l guvss I'm a UlUe too tall lor this mlcrophOno Good mnlng
I'm glad I made It Tht rtason WIly I think ~ ntvd to look c10Stly on
thiS Irlnge dmlopmtnt IS In tht aroa thiS IS oolng considered, you
once again IIko out on Walnut Rldgo or,lundlng thiS Fran:
dmlopm~nt to tho tune 01 '570.000 WIth bond dollars sold and
raised by a ral~ In wakor and ~~r rates acr<oSs th~ to.>3rd to p;ly lor
It and I undmtand that the r~v~nu~, you can us~ lJ1os.t lunds In a
dls<roUonary way, but I think the ~ploln the Grant....'OOd
neighborhood arta who came More this commlltw last yeu. or thl~
council last ym, hoping to gtt some kind 01 rtprttYt In ~rms 01 the
amount o( (oot trallte crossing that highway, should be \ls~n&d to
mort c1~Iy. along WIth this txpanSlon I mllz, that tho growth 01
thoclty In Ulat 8r~a Is roally l.1klng placut a groat paco. And so
btforo wt grow so (as~ so quickly thore, Itt's look at grt'tn Sp;lCf. Ltt',
look at loot trattle, Sot It ~ can't build In to this now pM$>>, arm
that ~ can deslgnako Ilke tht ~Uands (or, Park sp;lco or gr~n sp;lco
small or largo, whattm It l.1ktS. ~ause I don't think this council Is
allowing (or onough grHn space In tho growth that has bvtn taking
placoln thiS community. It svoms IIko &Ytry aroathat IS grHn Is now
apt to be dmlopod. And this IS all rtv~r bottom land and It's allllatl
think It you'rt going to d9volop UIIS am. and It's gOing to be alkor tho
noxt hmlngs In SiXlUtnct dtvtlopmtnt and not out 01 wqu,nce Ilk, It
thtor9Ucally now Is. And Moro wt spend those rmnuo) dollars that
art gtntra~ by ~lIIng th~ bonds, that wv should look rtal c1~ly
at whon you dmlop those aroas, that thm's tnough land lor
Granto,..'OOd,lor examplo, tht school to txpand. And thm', tnough
spac&lor thOS& ehlldrvn to play In And al$O whlin you go to finanCing
th~, what I consider mOderat/) to mMlum Iml hOmtS, that you tatt
Into eonsldmUon WIIat you WIll do lor low Incomo mas and WIlen wt
~mlQP Ull. ,nUre area, t.1k& Into consldmUon the thing. that I
monUonvd. Or~n spac~ lssu~ Ithlnl: are roally Important In Iowa
City, bVcauS<o It soems ftYitryWllvrt Wt drlv& now thm's a bUilding
going up wh&ro th&r& was a groon sp;lc& bVloro And $0 IthUlk It
would rtlally bohoon this council to allocato moro dollars In areas that
you dmlop lor groon space ~aus& In tho long term, altlir thl~ typo
01 doVelOpm4)nt conunues on and on, gtnmuon altor generauon, w~11
1001: back on Ulls council and ask, wvr& thoy dOIng enough lor us to
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allow space and arm lor our chlldr~n to play B\<aus.;o Ul>! la<t 01 Ul;
matter Is the~ hOmes WIll not hm that much of a bonvlll WIlli no
park space around. There won't bV,the values ....,on't 00 as great as
they would otherwls~ bV It you don't allow lor a b.:llanc~, and that's
WIlm I'm asking wMn you decide to vo~ on thiS proco)dur~ that
When you alloca~ these dollars to dmlop thiS land you tal:o Into
consldmUon the chlldr~n using that hlghway,th& Grantwood 5<hOol
that will bo n~lng to ~xpand, and also gr*n sp3c&that I thtnl: IS
really at a pr~mlum In Ulls toWll. And ~ n~ to do mrythlng 'IN
can to get as much ollllat as ~ can Into new dev&l(lpm~nts Thank
you.
r.ubby Ijlm/lust lor your Inlormatlon, this, would thiS particular tract 01 land,
Which Is not the Franz tract but.
St John/I'm familiar, yes, 330 som~ odd acres Isn't It?
Nov /No the Maclng IS on a dlll~r~nt piece of proporty
St. john? Yes,l understand. But ~'r~ talktng about Ulol same ac~a.
Kubby / We'r~ talking about the same area. But that ~ already have an
agrtoment through a conditional zoning agr&&m~nt that W>} would pay
outo( ~uence development costs lor "wvr In exchang~ for some,
OM dellnlUon (oc allordable hOusing. A mechanism loc that. And that
we did also n~oUa~ gr*n space
St. JOhn/ A swap of land with this s<hool.
Kubby / Within th~ hOusing developm~nt right whlnd It. AlthOugh we did
not tall: about WIlat tralllc Issue, We did tall: a IttU~ bit about
In(reas~ 01 s<hoolklds Issu~ with Grantwood wing so much ovec
llowlng.
St. JOhn/It makes a lot 01 ~nso to me. I also know that the long term
~pltallmprovoment plan will Include widening the stretch 01
highway wtw*n Scott Blvd. and Where It now comes Into ay'
Inters~tlon. So/ these ar~rlal rou~s around town and the onion ring
development that we seem to have <<currlng In 1II1S town Which,
Incidentally, [)o)nnls Hagu~ warned against In Earth Day 1990 That
typo 01 development. That total expansion out TM cost 01 services
ovor Ull1e fQr thts o~n'lon. I am sure you WllI,luture councils wUl
w bard pressed to come up with dollars to ~rvlce theso parking and
stop lights and so on. But also Ule cost 01 the loss 01 one \lIe or an
InjUry IS so great that I thInk that II you are gOing to be dmloplng
thiS area and putting It Into thiS new phase Which later publiC
Marlngs WIlt prob.:lbly allow lor ThiS CIty and this counCIl has to w
responSible lor those chIldren crossing that stroet because Ulat IS wllat
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your ch3rge IS 3S councUmombers IS to rn31ntaln publiC sal~ty and II
we are gOing lo be SUbsidIZing and you might want lo ch~ a
dlllmnt ~rd then I do I hke that OM mysell I think th3t It IS
really Important that you start pulling people as well as s\)....~rs and
lnlrastructure In a dlllmnt classlllcaUon 01 prlonU~ I think
children crossing on the way to Grantwood and S E. Jr High children
that I sw,you know, First An. we hm already,you are gOing lo be
discussing Ulat la~r or have ovon wlor9 and probably always Will
unUlthero Is a light or something thero. I know what UIO tralllc
tngln~rs art thinking 01 dOing there. We really hm lo take that
more Into conslderaUon ~ause Ilthe s<hools art groWing as last as
they ar~ and the school bond rel.rendum IS going In and WY ar9 not
going to ~ gelting a grade s<hool down In the Grantwood area but
morollkoly In tho southwe$t part 01 the CIty, the long term
comprthtnSlve plan should also Include the southwest part 01 Iowa
City and th~ children walking to and lronl West High. I think that IS
roally Imporl.1nt In this plan In particular ~ause thmls so much
In~nslvo development taking place so quickly that al~r It occurs we
are going to look Ground and say why didn't we do this. Why didn't
WY do that Why didn't we put a walkway across that highway when
we could havt aUorded It OOcause It Is only going to get more
exptnslvi Is the way I view It Plus, I m those children running
across that highway 9VOryday and I don't think that I ~uld ~
comlortablo with rnysolllll dldn.t come up and let you know Ulat.
That Is somothlng that you havt 00 look really keenly at ~auso I sw
so many children crossing that highway and tho Grantwood parents
that Il:now hm Ix~n concernod about that and I ~rsonally do to. I
havo ~n nlvces and nvpMWS living hero In this town and I want to
mal:" suro that they are walking to and lrom s<hool sal~'y whother
they are In the southeast section of Iowa City or northwest or you
name It Tllat IS Why I thin\: It IS r41ally Important lor thiS councUlo
look at It you are gOing lo 00 dmloplng this area, start looking at
vehicular traWc and pedestrian traWc and even you know you can
work with tho transit d~p.)r~mont In maintaining somoUllng there
That Is WIly I came Mre tonight bVCauso I was roally concornod about
Ulls typo 01 development We soem to 00 lust developing at VYVry
edge 01 town Without roally taking stock 01 the Jmple that are on
those streets and those children that are waly.lng on the sldewalY.s and
highways Just ~ause thm IS sldewalY. <1oosn't mean that they are
using It there and usually In thiS typo 01 weaUler they Will go lo
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In~rSV<tJons, walk on the concr~~ right WIlm tht cars are suppose to
tot, I am talking about paths across near tht (jrt statJon, Is an
txampl~ o( WIl3t I think Is a good Idea, Just sl.1rt thinking about In
ttrms 01 how ~.strI3n tral(jc Is C10Wlng as well as tht vthlcular.
Thank you.
Courtney I Anyon. tlltUktlo addrt5s this Item. Now Will clOSvthe public
htarlng,
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~ntry / Mr M3y~r, tll:3rln has n" obj~;tlon. ~ might (')nSld~r (ombtnUl2
tht public htarlngs (or It-.ms c.D.E. 4n..J (>>SSlbly F 'InCt, 0 3nd 1/, Sln(~
It Is 3 pact3gt and Utey 311 dom311 !(ogtth+r and It \\'11 toy very
dtlllcult (or any on. ptrson gttung up hOI. and sptaklng lo
dtllmntialt IS ~ Which p3rtlcular IlYm th3t Ulty'r. dls<usslng.
courtnty/ W. nHd a motion lor Ul3l
G~ntry II Wl)Uld suggYSt Il
~ubbY/I mov+ Uta!.
Courtney lIt's been movN to combln+ pUbllc hmtngs C through 1/
GtntrYII, II, I'm ~rry.
CourtntYIII. Inlo on. pUblic hmtng And seconded Any dls.:usslon?
lIorowl SYcond1 All rtghll111~ond It
Courtney/LOOk, urson did
1I0row / Oh II. did 1
Courtnty/ Ytp. Any dlS<USSlon? All thc.sv In lavor
Courtnty I DiSCUSSion.
Motion carrl~.
1I0v / Now you should rtad 011 o( Uteffi
Courtn.y II was a(rald you ~r. going to ~y that
~Ubby I And a tew ot us h3\.t $Om. amtndmtnts. Should wt tJlt about thost
btCorttht pUblic hearing or not now?
l..monl flot tonight though, right?
Gtntry / (can't hear)
~Ubby I TIltn wt COUld just throw tht Idtas out Mort Ult PUl\lIc h~3rlna
and ~plt con also react lo thos+ POSSlblt am~n..Jrn.nls
Gtntry I Thtn Ilthty'rtlor a vo~ 1
courtnoYI (roads ilYms through 5hl
Frantlln/ljust want to r,mlnd th, council that w~'r. suggtSung that you
conUnUt th, ph on th, parking (aCIIlty Impact (w ordtnanc\l Taking
comments lonlgh~ but Ulin also continuing that until your next
mHtlng on the 11th Mxt ~k
Larson/I~m 01
Franklin/ YIiS
Courtnoy/ Wt'lI do that WIltn wv got don. With th. 'liputAII or thOSt public
hWlngs art now opvn lor commont
McD/ On. question wlore w, start Wh,n art wt SChMulio\llo tat, acUon on
thest1 lias that won dIS<USS~?
Franklln/ Wo didn't talk about It last night Th., UIVY can l~ $(hvdul~llor
lurth,r consldtraUon at your Mr.t rn~tlng WIllch IS next Tutsday We
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could al~ ~hedul~ lIrst consldmtlon tor your March 3r~ m*tJng and
sUII meet Ul~ do!adllne as tar as tho! moratorium g(Of5
McD/1 ~uld prel~r lo not S~hNUI~ It lor lIrst ~onsld~raUon lor no!h't wwl:
Franl:lln/Ol:ay
McD/I l'II)uld preler lo walt UII our, WIlat ~uld It b<>, th~ March 3rd, and
th~n I'm assuming that you'lI hay. all UUVi mwUngs In March and
there's no change In your schvdulo to dati
Nov / We WIll need three meeUngs We can COllapse t~ It somvthlng's
Courtney / We need lo do thiS tor the moratorium It's om AprUlIrst
McD/ W~ would still have an opportunity lo do that, to do UIlS dUllng March
Frankllnl Y~. Unless you chang\' your ~hedulo!
Larson/ And It ~ did ~ could collaps& and gvt It dOn<!
Franklin/ Yeah
Courtney/Is that okay With you?
Courtney / Comments....
Y.ubby / Can we mentlon our amendm~nts so that WlJ can hm somo r~3CUon
(rom people WIlo are Mre? I had one WIllch IS on tho! PP.M ordinance,
page 5 lor people WIlo do hm COpies I'm Interested In Ule pUblic
~n\'lit leature, numoor 3. which gives people eh'tra bonus points (or
committing some o( their units lo the asslsW housing program. I'm
interestM In increasing the points alloW\\(! per unit lo mako> It more o(
an IncenUve to go that rou~,lo provide that alCordable hOUSing. I'm
not sure WIlat I think the nUm~r should be. but I ~uld like It to 00
equal to basement rellnlsMd WIllch Is 5 point I think assisted hoUSing
Is that important that I'd like to Increase the points.
Larson/ Would you comment on Ulat Y.aren 7 In ~rms 01 points where you
g&t a certain number of points lor the Whole building and then points
(or the unit. And kind o( WIlere you came up wtUlthls hierarchy or
number 01 points on each 01 these things.
Franklin/ Let m& lIrst address the Issue that Kar&n has raised and then I WIll
ask Bob lo addr\lss your g&n&ral quesUon about tho points. I think.
Kmn, by Increasing the number 01 points per unit WIlat you WOUld do
IS d~reaso) the Inc\lnUve lo have a number 01 mUIUple units SO you
want to k%p Ulat numoor low I( you can g&tlive points ~r unit
then you would only prOVide OM unit Or say you could g&t6 points
per unit, only prOVide 00& unit. You can only get 3 points per unit and
you nm to gH 7 points to do OM of the bvnus provI51"ns, you would
th&n oo'th&re would 00 an IncenUve lo prOVide at loast thr* units lo
get9 points
Y.Ubby I But It you W<lntOO to get hlgll&r d&nstty, th&n you WOUld provld.
mor\' asslstOO hOUSing. SO It may not be Your point IS valid II y.,u are
looking for one mUlUpl& of 7 But II you W<lnt to go lo Illgh&r mUltiples
o( 7 then you ~uld put more 01 assisted housing
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Fran~lIn/l don't know I didn't 101101'1 that
LarSt)n/1t you m trYing lo encourage mor~ allordabl~ hOUSing untts. you
wantth~ wnus points lo be somewtlat low On the OU1H hand. II
somOOM IS loo~lng (or 21 wnus points, th~y might 'lNlllk~ at 7 at a
pop lor th~ allordablo houSing that they could gH there
I:ubby /1 don't know It I ....'Quld want to go lo 7
Franl:lln/But still you ~uld get lewvr allordable housing Units It your
goal Is Increase the number 01 allordable housing units the you want
lo kMp that number I*r unit low
I:Ubby /1 ~uld IIl:e lo hear (rom sorno dmlopm on hOW Increasing Utat
number ~uld Inlluence th~lr d~lslon to use that parUcular point
sys~m lor assisted housing and WIlat kind 01 mcUon. Which way It
~uld go thru.
Franklin/ Why don't I have Bob address your g~neral quvsUons
Larson/ What I was ~rrled about,Bob, I want lo see th~ In~rplay, I don't
want any point I~vol o( th~o things to be at a point WIlm that IS tho
OM that &vo)rybody uses And nobody uses oj:*n space and nobody
uses masonry, b<<aUse they m all using a!lordablo) hOUSing or vice
versa, Is thm som~ balance as to how you ~uld put it tog~tho)r.
Mlklo/lt Is d~slgned such that It somOOM wants to build, Now tho) limit Is a
three slory building, I( somoone wants to build 11 six slory building
they nm to obtain 7 points to do that. One way 01 doing that is to
provld~ three al(ordable housing units, that is 9 points or two
allordabl~ housing units and somA. ol*n spaCA. WIllch ~uld give the 7
points you ~uld n*<l 7 or more points that you ~uld n*<l This IS
based on ordinances that are used In other communities, MosUyon
the wvst or east coast. It Is dllllcult to predict wtlat will hap~n,
N*<l to actually work WIth a lew prolects It may be ov~r timo) as wv
gain e~rlenco WIth this point sys~m that W': want to am~nd It on~
way or the other. G.tting back lo I:mn's earlier question, It your goal
Is to produce alCordable housing and someone wanttct to build to the
hlgMr denSity, they would ntvd 7 points In order to build to that
hlgMr denSity TMrelore you would want to hm lewor points
awardw (or tach allordable housing units so they would noOO to build
mort allordable housing units In ordtr lo build at tho) hlgMr denSIty.
f:ubby / Why would somoonl) choose that oVl)r somo) other option WhGt IS
the lncenlJVV to choo~ 1M affordable hOUSIng point &}'&wm n somo
oltheso othm It your argument IS true th.n I would.my goal Is lo
Increase the uso 01 thiS option and have It lo be used mor~
extensively And It dV(reaslng the points IS the thing that WIll do
that.that WIll be 11M I wantlo make sure that peoplO us;; that as an
option TMr~ are som~ dOWlI sides 01 dOing It Bur~a(arcy' ~rc9Iv~
or real Probably both I wantlo make sure that thiS Is attractive
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enough (or (X'Opti\ to uw tiltS I do want to Mar from poopl.;> hOw
your 1111 about thiS parUcular
Franklln/l Wljuld Itk~ lo add a comment about UI~ pvlnt syt~m Glv~ you an
~X3mpl~ 01 5Om~ 01 the thinking Ulat wv did On tM masonry llnlsh
Wh~n wv Hrst Sl.1rtW out WIth thiS wv had that at 7 pvlnts WIlICh gav&
It a lot 01 promlMnc~ It Is also 3 vvry my thing lo do WIllch many
bulldvrs might opl for And so nght away you \l,'Ould havv 7 points
that mayor may not be mouvatW by thiS vnUre sys~m So ~
brought th~ num~r 0/ points down Something els~ haS to ~ uwd
IJlo W~ may n900 to r~lInv UI~ ov~r um~ nl~ Importanc~ 01 the
various public ~nvllts shOuld be r~lI~ted In th~ points and II you
1~lthat wv have not rel1<<ted th~m as you Wljuld hav~ them then wv
n~ to mato somo changes
Larson/ That Is What IS so hard to ludge How Ulvy Wljuld uso thorn. IllS so
my to g~t the points to do that .I don't understand WIly It Isn't 20
points lo got to a SIX story building Or hoW that decision was made
To m~ a big building IS gOing to ~ mad~ out 01 brick anyway most 01
th~ tlmo.
Frankllnl Remomwr OM 01 tho malor goalS 01 this plan Is to havo high
Inwnslly uS(1ln that ma and WIlat we 3ro trying to got aro am~nIU~s
In conjunction With that high IntenSity 01 uS/).
Y.ubby I So It you m3ko It too hard you Wljn't havo tho higher donslty...
Lar50n/ My goals lor high donslty aro not tho sarno as othor poople'S. I have
goUnough SIX slory buildings In my lown alroady. 1 understand WIlat
you are saying
Nov /1 \'{Quid Ilko lo sugg~t a couplO 01 other amendm~nts alld I Wljuld like
thm lo r~ply to boUI comm~rclal and r~ldentlal us~. I think that Wit
shOuld have 5')mo InconUV~s lo pr~orve hlslorlc structuros, and we
can ~t up a point systom or anywhero olso so that poople got moro
crtdlt Ilthoy use tho building In Its onUrflty, use tho shOll and rehab
tho lnslM And m3YbY a low I&ss points or WIlato)vor It tMy'rv using
lust tho la~ado But Ithtnk there ought to be somo Incentive lor
som~M Who bUYS a lot WIth an oldor structure on It lo pr&Sflrvo It In
some way And lor resldontial USflS, I \'{Quid IIkl) to say Uiat balCOnlOS
are allowed only II wo havo at least a ten loot sid.; yard or backyard,
wMro} ovt)r tM balcony IS Jli:o:aus~ I thin}: It's po~nually possibly
thatthoy WIll haVO balcomvs and we havo a current minimum vI
~ Iw~ lIVe yards rathor What IS It? AnyhOW, It's a very minimal
lINt, right And I \'{Quid also Ilke to proposo that we have varied
utlllUOS on the SouUISlde, In tho 20 blOC\: aroa that Wi/'ro talking
Larson/Is WIlat sM'S proposing, Karin, a modltlcatlOn olll&m 4 under publiC
oonollts? Just lo make It that you g.;t maybe 5 points II you use Ull)
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la\3d~ and 711 you us\' all 01 It Is that WTlat you'r~ t.:llkmg awut
lIaoml?
llov / Something hk~ that
Franklin/ You'r~ r~l~rrlng lust lo th~ ~RM ;:t)n~ light now?
Nov/I'm rolmlng to bOth :ones to rvvyrsv Ulat
Franklin/I undmt.1nd that
lIov / But the point sysltms lust (lnaudlblil
Franklin/It's a modlllcaUon What It \o,\juld do l:<<3US+ w. don't hm a
landmark ordlnanco W~ don't hm transler dlmlopm~nt rights right
now, as ..,,~ taU~~ abOut last night, lor historiC proper U(1 That \o,\juld
alloW thiS to come Into play. That IS pr..~rvauon 01 hlslorlC bulldlngs
Soontr, Imm~lat.ly as thIS IS adopW ThIS basically lust puts It III
that b3skot 01 options 01 amenlUvslo u~ lo goa tM points to do
something more on tho propYrty
urson/ How abOut tho dlllmnUaUon ~tW\lt'n lust using tholaS\ade and
using thO whOli plac.
Franl:lln/lthln that IS a roasoll3blo dllun{Uon lo mm II WIlat you are
lrying to do IS prtSA.rv~ an ~nurt bUlldlng. That you \l,\)uld gtt mort
points lor that as oppos~ to just prtSA.rving thtlas~ad.. In ~rms 01
tho balcony In tht yards, that \o,\juld r~ulro a chango In tht d~tgn
guldeUMs por~. And I am 4$sumlng thtrt that we are lust l.1lklng
abOut tho high donslty. Well, maybt not You might want it In tho
commtrclal area too sin" Wi art going to havo resldonual
dmlopmonl
tloV/ Usually, until now anyway, r~I'JtnUal abOVt commtrClal has not had
th~ balconies, Hw,vtr tho high density ri1Sldollual bulldlngs haV,
had them, TMy hm had a groat many olthOOl, W. have s*n slld~
wMro thty art almost abuUng agatnstoach other from '1M bUilding tfI
tho noxt. I \l,\)uld Ilk. to pf(.servo a IItUo mort op.>n look.
Franklin/ That IS possible In putUng that In. I \l,\)uld suggoslthat as OM 01
tho dtSlgn guidelines as a r~ulatory prOVISion Vi an opuon, It you art
going to dO It
Larson/I am \l,\)rr\N abOUt tho unln~ndOO consequonc(lS Ulat m WIJ now
gOing lo ond up Ulat nobOdy haS balconies
Frankllnl F.~r I don't know
larson/Nice thing lo hay. Ulat most pooptolll:o 1 don't want to outlaw
them either.
Franklin/ Suro. That WIll bt somothlng that the group WIll novd to d~ldo.
WhiCh thIng that you want to Wilgh oil
Urson/ Your commonts on tho burying 01 uUhUOS
Franl:lln/ TM undergroundlng 01 uUIIUes Right now th~r~ IS a r~ulr~ment
U\at nay now apl building U\at the uUIlU~s 00 undllrground ex.:eptlor
certain parts Translormm, sWltchtng Things that c~n't 00
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und~rgroun'1 That wvuld tal:\' taro? 01 bUilding to tM 11M !lOW In
UIIS ma of town W\' all\'ady have U\(I utillUv<i a~v~ ground and tMy
are WIthin the publiC lOW So, It wvuld 5~1I1to m9that probably
undergroundlng 01 utilities wvuld be part of your WhOltloo\: at a
strwt scapv plan and wvuld be a publlc prol<<t as oPP""..<-<1to a
partiCUlar de'/&lopment *Ing responSlbl9 for It lit Within ~ CIty bl.xk
you may hav~ In 1111 d"vvlopmvnl 01 on~ building and tho) uUIIU..~ m
OVHMad along the r ow within the str*t That It wvuld ~ a publiC
prollKllo ta\:e m~ olthal WIthin that bl<<\: as opposw to lust that
oMlnllll
J:ubby / Translormers can be put belOW ground, can'lth9Y Just an economiC
hardship to do SQ. ..
Horow/ You can do It [).:f*nds upon wMril you put It
Ilov / They do It all oVir thi wvrld. Thiy lust don't do It hm
Larson/ Would It ~ a slgnlllcant damp+nvr to dmlopm9nt to requlli a
little svt bac\: on Burlington For Instance, tho way swarma's building
IS built there on the corner 01 Burltngton and Clinton.. they have th91r
lot 11M and then they use their first 5,61*t. I Uilnl: It was Intkndvd
for sidewall: cale lYPV, but In el(ect mov(!S the bull(\lng back lrom the
strt'ill It mak~ the f*do:strlans along that stro:etl*1 a IItUe morv
comlorl.1blO, It you requlrothat kind of svt \i3ck on the other side of
Burlington, all along Burlington. until you don't h3ve that situation
wMre you hm Il,W ~II Building right to tho lot 1100, 4 loot sldo wall:
and thon th& strtot practically. Would that ~ significant dampvnH to
dmlopmont there.
Franklin/ ThO bl<<k It will affect most IS th& bl<<1: bVlwo:en DubuqU9 and
Cllnlon Stro:ets and tM owner of that propvrty Is Mr& so I guioSs I
would have you direct that qu~tion to Mr If sM IS WIlling lo r~pond
to Il Wit h3V& that as an IM9ntlV& hm noW. What ~ \\'Ould do Is
lust taktlt and mal:tlt a requlrtment It. can N don.. Ithlnl:
rvdevtlopm9nt of that parUcular bl<<k l>'~aus9ll wvuld be a lugt
prolect The Slgnlllcance of that would ~ ItsS than It you m talking
abOut a Single lot that IS bOlng rwmlop+d OthHWlS~, on Burltngton,
talking probably long term befOle thm IS rvdmlopm9nt
Larson/ We hm that as an InC9ntive We coul(\ ma\:& It as a requlNment
Maybe sM WIll (omm~nt e\)/)IJ! tMt Than\: you
Courtnity / ArO Wit ready
WIIlrelda Hleronymous/ As you IndlcalW my lamlly owns the bl<<k
bVlwVtn Burllnglon and Cllnton, right across Burlington Strt'ilt AS you
also knoW I haV& gath~rvd together a slgnlllcant portiCln 01 that bl<<l:
WlUI tile IntknUCln ultimaltily olleplaclng wllat I conS\dlir to \)i)
unattracUV& buildings With alar gr&al.:or building I havo) a couple 01
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problo!ms tlumoor one If I st.1rt to build the bullo:lIng I haY'! In mind I
Will numL~r one htro th~ wst archl~t Ulatl can find TM most
ImaglnaUv~ arcllltl?\tl can tind and build that kind 01 building I
think I have proven that I am not tnwrostw In doltl)rtoraung tho? loo~
01 our community. OM o( tho restrlcUons that I haY\? the most
probl~m With says that 25~ 01 my ground C100r wvuld have lo bo
WIndows. As you know we buill WIndows Into the Shopping cen~r
WIlen W~ buill Old Cap. Centl)r TMy hm ~n highly unsuccesslul
We hm tfllxl to give them lo merchants lo Ill! ~ause we lelt It
looked loss Ukol a hug~ structur9 Illt had thesol small Windows In It
W~ can't keep tholm lllle.j, Tho oUler probl~m you hm, WIlen we
built Younkers,lor Inslancol, wvuld not have any Windows nIt mson
a merchantd~n't want Windows Is ~ausq It robs him 01 wall sp;lce
It hol doesn't have wall space that It IS provon In Gllted,lt limits the
kinds 01 merchandise they can carry. Becaus~ they can't put anything
In that area. I wvuld preler that there not be such a restriction In
hm. Just simply to say that tholY It can't ~ blank walls. What you
arol trying to get away lrom Is thol N. W. Bolli T,I~phon9 building. I
undersl.1nd that. I Ullnk you know, most jmpl~ agree, It Is most
unattracUv~, lo a ~estrlan. That Is WIlat It amounts lo. To say that
25~ 01 that lront has to be glass Is most unrealistic, parUcularly wMn
It races the south. Particularly,l menUoned one pvrson wIlo wvuld be
Involved wIlo W\)uld be the archttl?\t. Tho numwr second pvrson or
pvrsons WIlo W\)uld be InvolvV<! wvuld be the lInanclallnsUtuUons and
wilen you are talking lo lInanctallnstitutions, you are gOing lo b& darn
sur, that this Is gOing lo ~ a successlul commerCial venture llOloro)
tholY put (orward thol money. And WIthout you aro) not going lo build
that building. So, I hm not roally concorn~ myselC too much about
design restrictions because I (eel that III do WIlat I say I am thinking
01 doing WIllch Is to hire the best archllvct I can lInd. The most
Imaginative architect I can lind, that I can get WIlat I want lo build
approved. But (just don't see any reason lo make It lougher It WIll
~ lough enough ~ms mrythlng that got done haS been tough
,nougll So, I W\)Uld r~u,stthat you not put any such rostrlcUon
25~ TMre are not 25$ Windows on this building I don't know 01 a
building that has 25:t Wlndo"'" In any of tho MWllr bUildings nl~Y
buill out In my aroa I can mn remember WIlat It originally was
buill lor It Is right now bvlng used as a drug store And WIlat did
tholY do They Simply put shelving In lront Olthol glass Unattractive
but tholY havol to have space for shelVing. self de/eating I don't
know WIly they camol up With this 25:C that had lo be glass I haven't
any Idola
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As tar as your first question WIllCh was II you hav~ a ~tbacl: Th(o
rmon (or not haVing a s~tbaCk ts (or Ul(o ~onv(onl(onc(l tor Ul.;
r>>J~trjan He wants to walk Into th.; storo) 110) doesn't want to walk
across tho (ront yard and then Into a store That IS WIlY all thi' d t
bUildings ar~ built on the stdowalk What you may (Ind IS that YOll
may n*<l to Wldvn tho Sldv~'all:s
/lov / Talking about ~ (Nt stdeW311:
IIIHonymous/ Most peoPlo.most shopJ.'*rs want to be ablo to wall: MAt to
the WlndOW.n.
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Larson/ Tho ~tback I am talking about
Ht,ronymous/ Thm Is room. What you would do Is oUmlnate tho space
bVtw~n tho) sidewalk and the curbing What you are alter Is high
dMslty. You want as much built on that lot as you can get someone to
bUild, Not really trilng to makt the bUilding smalltr. So I think that
Ult (ewer r~trlcUons that you put on destgn,th& bet~r. NObody,vo)ry
ltw pooplt would build a (lve story bUilding and In~nUonally makt It
unattracUvi to tho pUblic,
Larson/ coUplt r&cont examples".
Hleronymous/ Don't think thty had tht pUblic In mind, I know they wm
maldmlZing spaCt. And thty art not commercial bUildings, Can j
ans~r any othtr quesUons? Thost are tho) only things I havt
probltms WIth, And I havt said nOthing about
Larson/ Excu$O me, Is another ont o( your conSldtraUons (or wanUng to
rt-juct tht WIndow spaCt have to do WIth a mort entrgy tllicltnt
bUilding?
Ambrls<o/ Abr..olu~ly. It you don't bellm It go by GlltM on a Windy day.
Those Window; do VYirythlng e;.'Copt wave. 8ecaust thtrt's just not
enough Support WIlin you havo that much glass, you nm, you know,
more Support And WIltn It's all glass, you don't hm a lot 01 support
Larson/It Surt IS lun to walk by though
I/Itronymous/ Oh, It's lovtly
Ilov / And you do get f)\\Opli' Who comi'ln boxaust you hav(o bIg Windows
Hieronymous/ No question about I~ but~, you say, th&(Q Is a saWtlel1 You
gtVt up certain kinds o( mvrchandlsQ you can't carry It works great
(or glllM, but I can't s* It worklng lor a dress Shop lor Instance It
works great I:<<aus& Wi mak& It WOrk. Wi carry Ul& kind 01 stul( that
would work. But yo)t the stor&s that are In malls us€- th&lr WIlol& tront
aria on tht ln~rnal Sld& 01 the m aU tor glass. Peopl&, J mean dr&ss
shops In Old Capitol. (or Instanct, all glass and thty us(od to display till)
dresses There m a COupltl 01 riasons (or that Ontl, you 'v,; got a
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n3lfow (onlran<t Mj tM Wld.:r Y'JU ma!:.: that (ontran<-:. th~ ml)rt?
lrl~n,jly In notglm It's 3 ,1(\lJr U1H rolls up. as l)Pf~o?<j to 81m
ThC>S~ thH hm glm WIll probably put svm&thlng In Iront 01 It And
th3t'S t<<3USt!, 'fo't? ct'j It at Gllt.;.j We hav.: not as I.M>? 3. 0.;:" don't
h3v~ the WIlole thing as ~ntranc~ So Wo: have to put ~m(othlng In
Iront 01 Uut glm to m~k.. G<im..UlIng Ul~t Ill... to \"~Ik Ulrvugh It It'G,
It's boxom+ SMIVlng sfi3c+ In vll~t
Horow/ Okay. I was lust thlnl:lng mn 3t Sycarnor+ Mall
Hlt?ronymous/ All I'm aSking you to do IS plcturt? 3 bUilding. S3y hall a blo<l:
101lg building WlUI 25 ~,only 25~ 5Ajhd 'fo'all and UN r(ost 01 It glass
And I don't know WIlal you'r~ talking about wMn you talk about a
~orMr building Art! you s.3ying 25' on OM slr*t and 25' on tM
oUltr Slrwl? What's gOing to hOld It up, (rankly? I~ I lust say. Ilhlnl:
you nvvd to bt a lilli, practical
urS(;n/ WIUI that ono?, WIlatl would characttn:.: as minor commt?nt With
r~3rd to tht WIlole plan. ar, you supportive 01 th+ Wholt? plan
otMrWl~?
Hlmnymous/I don't. you know. I hm lor yms lrl~ 1.0 COIlVlne!? tho? City
thatth~y should prott.:t the south dlr~Uon ~ause It IS th!? only way
\;'(0 can Y).'pand tho? dOl'llltown I would Ill:, to s+? that \;11010} ma to
bV roqulred to havo somt typo: 01 commmlal on th& ground lloor
~rring tha~ commtrclal or olClct. Somtthlng And build as many
ap3rtmtnts as tho}y want to abOvt thtm, but to flUll lull 01
apartm(onts to me IS a mls!,)l:. ~austl right now they m wtry old
bUildings In thm, rtlaUvtly IM~nslve to buy and tear down. Once
Ulty gtl tho? apartmtnts WiJ IMnUontd bull~ It'S prohlblUvtly
~xpo:nslVt to tear Ultm down and start ovtr, So Ithlnl: ~ always
hm to I:*p in mind that that IS tho) only way our d'jwntown can
grow and II we can't downtown well grow 011 Ule p.;.rlmtter I wvnt to
Cedar Rapids loJay I hmn't btvn In Cedar Rapids In qUltt som+ umo?
boxause It's no long,r nocnmy to go to C~ar Rapids to shop. Butl
W3$ downtown In CR I ....'I)uld, dUrlng.lrom, after th+ lunch hour, alttr
tht lunch hour,thero was hardly anyoM on th~ sld~wall:s In
downtown CR SUllply L~auso It has now oo:om~ oltlc~s an,j tlnanelJI
InsutuUons ThY rvst.)urants close on saturday and Sunday Thm's
nobody down Ul~re And I don't Ullnl: that you w~nt thOt lor our Iltuo)
<Ily, yvu S~ lthlnl: that WiI Vt'ilot to (loeo\lrJgc tho c::pJmIOn Ule
~"'PanSlon 01 the downtown not n~essanly ~:q:'anSjon 01 aPJrtm~nts,
t<<ause w~ have lots 01 apartmtnts
Larson/ And you m(lan riot.lll wMn you say eornrniorml
Hl(lronymous/ R~tall. olllc(lS, lawyers
Larson/ But Including rt?t.lll, y.:ah Thanl: you
Hlmnymous/ 8o:<au5io II Wi! don't It's gOing to 00 on th(l ~O{Orlmiot.:r
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Lar5')n/l gU\'I$ I wa$ lUll was l<jojlUlg 30'11 gU\'I$ ~v(oryon(' ~I!oi I:MWS UII$.
WMUlvl yo:.ur ov(or3ll1~lIng al>vut Uloi plan II, um IS Uloi dtr\'<Uon to
go ~) compum,nt do)'<<'I\to....'n or WhHh"r yo)U lnl thIS plan IS oo:,t
1I1oironymous/1 was saYing my only probl-:m ....,th It IS 11l3t yo)U'Voi ,jnly
allO\o,'\'I1 th~ OM blc.:l "'M~ dvpUllor commyrm!
Lar5')n/ Y~ah
Hlvro.lymous/ HOF*'ully l1lat's not gOIng to L.. vnough ~rn.;..,;nv wMn I said
SOm~thlng a~ut putung a commmlal bUilding acrOS$ 6ur:lngton, onoi
,,'tht bUlln+$s I*Opl~'s r'~p"nslf Imm~latelY was. ....~1I1 don't WJnt
to go across Burungton SUM My r~poo~ to that was that would
d~~nd on WIlat ~Iso.! was ov~r there What oilsoi IS OVoir thm to pull
peopl& ov&r thm 6urUng!on 5th"!t IS art~r all no 'oJld~r than any
slr*t In CR, And people managing v~ry nlc~1y to gH across So I lust
C.ln't go along WIth tho.! thoi(lry th3t Burlington IS 11llS gr"at bmlyr
Thanl: you very much And dCln'tlorg~~ .....~ sUII n~ p.3rl:lng Thanl:
you vtry much
Courtnoy / Thank you
Jim St. John/ I wan~ to l.111: about this Issue too tonight ~aust I'm.
Courtneyl Jim Could you Id~ntiCy your~l'. W" alll:now you, but
Sljohn/I'vo shaved my moustJche oil, so mrytoody dOo:sn't I:now Who I
am,
coUrtMY / You nm to sign In loo
St. John/Jov. almdy dono thall'm Jnn Sl John I wantoo to tall: about
som" Issu~ Ulat Mrs.lllmnymous dly.uss~ wCor" you just
pr*~nUy. and Mort I talk about you I:now, what sM has
(ommunlca~ to YOU,l wan~ to moinUon something that I thought
originally, and I'm really glad to Mar Ms Novlcl: bring up hlstortc
pWArvaUon, t<<.lU~ I also heard WIthin Ul~ 1m 5 mlnu~ th~ words
torn do'<<'l\ a couple 01 Urn". And Jthlnk Ulat w,,'v. dOM Ulat In tht
cour~ 01 Umtln Iowa City Cor thOS& 01 you WIlo wm on thv council
on tho.! city stall Who havvn't bvvn In Iowa CIty that long, wt USN to
hm som. viry nlc. old bUildings hm that now are replmd by
shopping malls and par\:lng rampi Ilow I know that 5')moi po:oOploi
vl~w that as pr~rvss. I do to.) I want ~(\nOmIC, I want a Vital
dO'<<'l\to....n Shop \:Mpors In this community know my 1m boXausoi I
pay lilY bills Mrtl in town and I purchasv goods lootly I tino\: 'loW
~hould all do l1lal W" chould try to aVoid Wr,~tdalv~ and co on But
that aSld~, I UlInk Historic Prt$~rvaUon, th~rv's a h(\m~ that IS right
nm Ulv St Patrlcl:'s Church It's I Ullnk, called LOUIS Clar\: homr" and
I menUon~ It to IrVing W~boir l1le oth~r day Oh h(. S31d, you'r~ W..
young man who put all UI~ grey hair 00 SUi! HoroWltz's hf:ad and I
said no, oh no But I'm lust 1:lddlng YvU, Susan
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Horow/ Really th~y're lust blond<o stml:s.lh3t'S ol:ay
Horow/ Only our MJrdress..-n know lor SUIt', I ,.,ultJn't r..-slsl 1M J think
historic prmrvauon's Nally Impvrtant mthls ar~3 E....:auioi It's roi311y
some 01 the oldest parts 01 Iowa City an,j Ull~ homo? In p.3rU<ular .
according to IrVing We~r, was OM 01 th(., II notth... old~sl hom~ SUIl
sl.1ndlngln Iowa City, h.thoughl, and I did t.x> !jYllmU~n3Ily
sF*al:lng and Int.rg.nmuonally spY31:Ing thalthl. would bY an 1.1.al
l<<atlon lor a doctor'S or dentist's or proftsslonal'S OffiCii bUilding In
a small WIllt~ hOu$O WIth th... gre-:n shuttm, and I UlInl: that'S MmV's
v,:ry worUIY olthts <ouncll's proto:<uon And as far as BUllington
Slte-:~ I would have no problem s~nljlng rnon...y south and OOlth 01
Burlington Slt~el but I don't thlnl: Its as ~asy for ~plt to g~t aClOSS
lor thO'h that live In Capitol House and 400 S. Dubuqu(o Str(~t which
m primarily S.nlor occuplW hOUSing units And contrary to W1ut
Randy might s.1y, I wouldn't mind anoth\'r Ecum+nlcal Towm,lIv(o SIX,
elgh~ ~n stonos Bi<ause w... nm that I:lnd 01 hOUSing too Mayw
mn In thiS art:a But C....jar Rapids'S successlul program 01 building
skyways and I think Burllngton Stre-:t would ~ an eix...ll...nt way to
s~rt our own skyway program, tl ~'r~ gOIng to N building ramps, or
putting MW commolrctal bulldtllgs ~Uth 01 Burlington to k,:llp that In
mind, w<ause thm ar~ a lot 01 F*Ople who find that In lncllmatl)
.....eatholr that a dllllcult stretch, Burlington Stmt Also as (ar as
s(otback Is concolrned, you know and I know that that land IS (oAT*nSl'/...
and you want to develop &Y(ory square Inch II posSible ~ause that
prolit motlv(o IS so gml We want to mal:(o that land use1ul8ut I don't
want to S% What now hap~lls or did hap~n at GUled occur again In
that you g(ot oil the bus, you're walking through thoro In between tM
stor(o and the bus, and th(or,t's very little space th,ne And I don't want
to SOt' that happening on Burlington Str*tll ~ can Mlp Il That's
Why lthlnl: Ule ld(oa 01 SttbaCI: I~ an e:<<tll...nt ont I thlnl: skyways
are the way to 81) And also as lar as ~arlng down old bulldlngs, I
think that th6ro,s a way that we can Incorporalt) some 0lthes6 old
structures In thiS plan aM es~lallY thiS hOm(o and som(o 01 the oth.jr
Ilomes Utat COUld ~ used lor profesSional otIlUU~S and Ulat's
som~thlng that w~ really hav...to strongly push WIlottMr It's Ulrough a
credit point systl}m or not (thin\: that that's an ,m:~I1~nt Idea and tho
way to 80
Jay Honohan/ Mr Mayor and mimoors ot Uli (ounel( I'm Jay Honohan as
you all alr&ady know I notlc~ you got a n&w lac., lilt smc~ tM last
time I was Mre It 1001:5 my n1C~ I want to start out by saYIng
SOm&thlng that might t~ unusual for mo tJjnlghl I'm gomg tJj agr~~
WlUI Frl}lda HI.,ronymous on two points TM ltrst OM thatI'm gomg to
agr~e In the obVIOUS on~, ~ n~ more parl:lng In thIS area But 1M
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SOXOM on'? I'm gOing to a8r~ bo:lor~ I go llJ<l: to Ul~ p..lrklng ('m
gOing to agrw With h~r on som'! ot tho! d~slgn Uungs Ulat I S# In thiS
plan OV~rallll's always twn my OPllllon Ulat good do!v~'lv~rs ar~
gOIng to develop go..."1d bUildings no matto?r Io.'hat buro?au<raUc t.Jngl.:s
you SH out lor th~m And poor dmlopm m gOing to dmlop poor
bUildings no matt~r bur~3umuc tanglis you s~t out tor th~m And /
think Frieda, /11 sUck up tor h,r again, IS a gOOd ~:ompl~ / think PIa:.,
Co?n~r liS a gOOd (I~:Jmple ot WIlat can be dono? by peopl& WIlo want to
develop SOmething w~lIln Iowa Ctty But (thlnl: In this area that \\'~
havo? S.:en Wllat WV'ro? talking abouttonlgh~ you11 W! a lot o( gOOd
aparlm~nt bUildings and you SI.'e a lot 01 poor OMS And I think that's
gOing to hap~n no mat~r WIlat kInd ot design and stJndards you put
In. And I think that tho r~sult 01 a lot 01 d~s/gn st.Jndards Is r~ally to
hinder th~ gOOd dmlopers and not the poor OMS SO I'm gOIng to
com'? out WIth Frl~a and say that I think you should really take a
Socond look at a lot 01 the things that ar& In thiS (hmn't had a rtlal
gOOd chance to stUdy It or th& ordlnanc~ b'Xauso? ( Just got 'em
Monday acto?rnoon. AM didn't rltally g~t a chanco? to g~t In 'ern
becau$O It's Income talC season. But I do ~ some things obVIOUsly that
m In th& plan WIlen I look at spe<llIc pl~es that I'm very Vitally
In~r(lS~ In That I'm unhappy WIth. I no~ on page l~ that Ul~~ sort
o( say, appears to mt! to say that you need I J I parking spaces ~(ore
you should dev,lop thIs ma or alter thtl area Is dmlop'!d. I'm not
sure Just Wlllch. My conc~rn Is that II we need thos& kind 01 sp..lco?s
right now, and that's WIlatthe stat( san (or this dmlopm,nt, and
......lv, got a parking Jrva Ulat Is I und~rstand trom UI& stall's r&porls
ooth this on~ and pr&v/ous ono?s, IS In a dellclt POSIUon as (ar as
parl:lng Is conc~rn~. Why at this Um& are Io.~ (lnacUng an ordlnanc~
WIllch has, the proposal on It has Wvn r~lec~ tWlc& be(ore by thv
councll, to remove the parking (or commvrclal areas? I'm also
concern&d aoout th& Impact ot high dvnstty r'Sld&nUalln thIS ma
Again I haVen't had too mUch chanc& to ro?,chocl: th& ordinance but I
think the plan and thv ordinanc& calls tor a tamlly and thr(loj In an
apartmo?nl How II I Und&rstand Ulo? ordlnanc'!, and Llnda, you may
correct m~ on thiS, but at least It US~ to be a tamlly was two students
So that's (jV& stUdents In a unIt I don't I:now W11~ro? th~ s~lt' got Ulat
101 parking Sp..lces that th&y show In that stUdy, / lInd Ulat hard to
btUOY~ Also It It Is I 04, WIly m w.. .aYlng only on~ .pa'~ pyr unit? I
thInk thIS Is gOIng to Impact WIlal's a rod parking sltuatlon right no\~
f I:now YOU't& bUilding a ramp and 1 agr~~ WlUI Ul~ locatJon I didn't
Uk/) th& rox cent&r locatlon, and lthlnl: that's a r~alllrst st~p torward
But th~S& do)v~lopers Will d&V~IOp a lotlasl&r Ulan your ramp My
~xp.:r1~nc~ slttlng at Ulat table tor ~I{\v(ln Y(lars IS that It tJI:~s a Icng
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tim<- to bUild a parkmg ramp And Ithml: we can r(omvmboir tM two
Ulat "''(0 built It IMln.t tJI:... Ul(oi(o d(ovo!lOp.lIS that long TMY'U all boi
building bUildings a lot laH.)r than you lor a ('jt cll dtlfH<-nt r",ay'lns,
most 01 WIll(h are wyvnd yvu'ro! control $A) I lust want. for thv
parl:tng sltuaUon I'm OpposN to thls plan, unl;,oSs UlIS council commits
IU~II to som~ f>3rklng SOIUtiOM lor U11~ ar,,3 e~lor.. you adoptlhi
niW ordln3nc.. I'd 111:.. to,~ a commltm"nt from you for UlI~ aria for
p.1rl:mg Wha!hVH It IS somi solution Il:now lhm IUS ~n a
dISCUSSion S~Vi and I tall:~ OM Um~ an.j Ithoughtthm was $Omo)
mov(olMntlor the old Malden laM lor a p.1rkmg lot I don't I:now
WIlat h3pp+ned to that That was tall:~ abo~ut a couple 01 years ago
And I havtn't 5~n ony progr~' on It. I mum. It', not In lh. mill
Larson/It's In the mill
Honnh3n/ But as long 3S It's t.lk~n I don't know whin It would Nar frUit for
us In that am
I:Ubby / Art you L3ll:lng abOut a commllm(ont to do something. or a phYSIC31
commllm~nt to have the laClllties avallablt wlore ~ Impl(om~nt thIS
plan.
Honrahan/ Thto latt.:r That's WIlall would IIk~ to S% You've Mard all my
arguments abOut parl:lng I'm not gOing to rep+at them all, I'm lust
going to say a (oUpl(o 01 things abOut historic I don't know WIlelMr I
ShOuld be p!eas(od at p.1gt 27 or WIlether I shOuld claim Inlrlngemenl
M<aus+ we wm nmr asked, But that's our building. And ~'re very
proud 01 that building. And I dunno we went back to WIlm Irving
Wtber couldn't get us back any lurther and we dlscover~ some stull
WIth some lrl(onds so that really, parts 01 It at least go bac\: to la97 or
1~~7 and I hm a picture lrom the newspap+r 01 that building. But
we didn't n*<l any hlstorlC preservation district lor that building. We
didn't Med any historic preserv3tion d&stgnaUon We did that by
ourselves, We did that ~ause Wit wanted to and wv put our moniY
and our time and illort Into that building. I don't want my bUilding to
be destgnatod a historiC butldlng. I don't want any desIgnatiOn And I
WIll oppose any designatiOn" our bUilding as a hIstoric bUilding,
~xaus(o Ulen ofto:n r.;gulauons lollow Wlltctl WV 0 not want We want
to bot able to do With our building WIlat we want to do We hav.i
pm(orv~d It W(o 110'1(0 pr(os~rvM It In tM st.~t(o that It was daUng bIlc\:
to WIlen they rebuild It alt(or the lire In 1907 WI) want to I:&~P It that
way WIUlout any govvrnmotnt r.;gulaUons Without any rules, you
don't hm to ,"',rry aMut our building N\au$it w~ did tt tn the
beginning ours&lv&s It Will conUnue to \)oj lust 111:& It IS ngllt now
UnlltSs, what you do to thiS ar(l lorm us out And then that bUilding
may 00 SOIMUIIllg Ulat could w d&slroyoo Thall\: you
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L m~nl Just lor you Inlormauc,n, an,j (In,)w cc,uncll wvuldlynch m~ It I
r~~pond\"d to tiYo:ry c(\mm~nt Il13t allyono? m~,j~ t(\llIgllt Uut I dldnt
agr# WlUI But W\'o approy,)<j tM llm~lJblo} l"it,jf'! you got !1m
tonight that ....'Vuld allvw tor that n~w ramp to be don'! t-!lor~ n~^t
spnng WhICh IS stgntllCJfiUi' bvlor\i any prolKts In UIIS ma m gomg
to g.t don.
( aUdl,nc~lIltnJudlbl~)
Larsonl TM p.1rklng ramp ugh! t~hlnd us ^ ym Irom thiS spnng
ObvIoUSly not a month an,j a h3111rom now f,ut In J ym trom thiS
spung
( aUdIM<+)/ltnau,1Iblt)
IJrS<)n/ ThBt's the UrMtabl~ UI3t \\'3' 4nnounc~ lUst tOnight Th-:y put out
bids In July and hm a n1M month <onSlrucUon
!l>rowlThiY wvrt dlscusilngthrto or lour sUII
LarS<)n/Thty stili don't hm OM down to go along WIth lour,but ~11 d~ld~
that In a wnk or two. And you ought to know about tht maIden l.3M
prol~t, Jay p.1rt ot th+ reason th+ Mald+n Lane prOI~I'S tJklng $I)
I,>ng IS ~au~ ....'0 couldn't gvtthe n+lghoor'S to agr% on WIl3t to do
And lor a nflghbor as promlntnt as you to not tVvn know WIl+re It
stands IS disturbing, It's gVlng to boi parklllg m+tm. It's gOing to be
nicely dOM, It's gOing to h+lp tho artJ.
Honohanl And that's all that S~Vt told me a long Um& ago, And I Ulought
that Umttablts at that Urnt would have had It In plac& lor a year by
now.
Larson/ W+llthlS obViOUSly d+layed It GOing to dOViotallthls
Honohanl And I'd boi wiry happy to drtvt Into Ulat MW p.1rklng lot III Ul.
sprtng. randy, but I hm my Sk+pUctsm Thank you
Courtn+yl AnyonuIS+?
John Rumm+lhart/ Good mnlng I'm trying to k~p up WIth allth& activity
hm this mnlng It's g"lng to be tough to d" As lar as Mald,n Lan(<, I
don't OYin think It's any prolect~ yWly budg\ot out to '95 or mn on
the books, Ill'm not mistaken yet That's OM it+m And I would 1I1:e to
urg+ Ulat Ulat gvlS gOlllg and I*'rtj d+lllllto)ly WIlling to pay our mort)
than (air shm on that prolK~ and att\ompllng to r.~rhap; am+n.j
S<)m~ hopolully minor mlstakV$ as lar as mal:o surtj ....~ get onough
grc-vn spacv down through that corrtdor Ulvre. At Imtlll our section
ot M3ld.n ~Il. W.'ty WllIlrl@ to) holp out how.;v..r ....\; c~n on ll1~t
Conmnlng th~ proposw 11m $l)UthSld~ zoning In g~nml, thvrv's a lot
ot dltl~rontthlngs that stJlt's dOM a g000.110b at !lYing to put
tog~tMr And (think that was ral~~1 ilarU(or, It'S tQugh to know
vY.ilCuy wllallS gOing to haPF*l\ II you grvilll light Ulv propoJsotd
ordlnan(~s as th~y sland Alii guo!ss I (an ~II y'Ju at thIS, by mo! at
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U1lS poInt. IS 1 thlnl: It'S m 1M right ihr\'o;Ur:n rh~ 103m q\l~\llOn ~y
1M I:wps corning Ncl: <10....'11 to r~I'J~nU31 ',I~llIlty qu...sU,;.n Your
flJrl:tng to la<llltJt~ Uut. an.J It \>.\!'r{'I'jo)l:lOg at !h~ ,hro!o:Ue'll 01
vAp3ndlng to Ule south WIth dO\>.'IItWll dlstmt tts~II, l')U doillmtoily
hm to Ix> sur~ U13t you don.t los~ tM lI~lOblhty c,r J>>Sstblllty 01
having that <ornm~r\lal or olll<~ sp.3CY on UI~ IIrstllool I don't I:now
WIl.:th~r to m31:~ lbat bml: at Court Str"t or II that should go IUlth..r
south or noli don't knclw It's got to ~~ 1001:00 at cllY.~ly lbough
~au\o? .....o?lIl( tt's not YOU'loi gOing to IOS,) It And thoin WIth lllhoi
(X>S~lbtllty lor Ulo? d~'Joilopm;nt doWl' Ulat (01 lido I Ithlnl: thJl W1lb
tho? commmtal spac; th~t 15 It sounds Ill:~ ~nd lool:slll:oi IS gOing to ~
hopoilully taking place I'd s.1y bollWffn 8urllngton 3nd COUlt Str~t
spoiClllcally, I Ullnl: lbat hopoilully lboi, your rvsldvnUal Units, pot+nlul
mtdoinUal units abovoi commH<131 spac~ Inst~3d 01 wing ni<YS$.lrtly
3 dlstracUon to thoi m, hopo?lully It can mlly Nmpllmoint 1M WlIol+
as!'<<t TM mc,r.) peopl~ you hm In thoi ar~3, IS Mpo?lully gOing to
la(llltatoi the addlUonal busln~soiS In lb.! 3fo!3 You'roi gOing to s# th~
small Shops hopo?lully pop up, WlIat.;voir tMy may ~. s., my only, thoi
biggest thing 1 go up With IS , , po?rsonally dr,.n't haY-) a prObloim (rom
both city +xpo:nso? WlS+, strwls, s+wr (a(IIIUoiS, garoog+ pICkUp, or
anything vl~, str&&t m3In~n3ncv. Having a lot mort d+nslty 111 say
down this corridor than WIlat \o,';'r+, WIlat you're lOOkIng at coming
down thoi tubes Mroi, at loiast WIth thiS PRM :onv But how to wVlght
that agMnst the dllllculty, tht po~nUal problllms ....'1> hay. WIth tht
parking. , don't have an anSWoir But 'thlnl: that's, to moi that's SUII
th+ main rub. One conCoirn , don't t.now 110101 UIIS con~umncy \t,\)II:S
Into this I think It'd be In r&lmncoi to, mayt.~ I:artn you can Mlp m.;
out, 1 know Ulat this It+m 50, thoi par king structure Impact ,", I think
Which would go along With the POSSlblllUoiS 01 haVing to hm your
50~, potenUal 50~ 01 a prol~ts roqUlr9d parking oil pr~mls9 on a
pUblic, In a PUbliC (aclUly That mtghtlly, might be (1M My only
concern ....'Quld be II mo or WIlotv&r ~Iso would happvn haY\> a larg~
enoUih p((lCe 01 propo?rty In Ulls pro!Y.'$.X1aroa In Whlth we tould, ,
say tho) arnendo:d ordlnanco) al>l& to lit on l'OUI a~lbo)Ucally all Uloi
r&slrt(Uons and roqulr&mo)n~ hm on Slto) parl:lng lor s.Jy, tMlr lull
r~Ulr9mo)nt that t 'M)uld hate to ~r$(lMlIy I~s~ tilt opUon to ~ ~bl~
to hm tht,l addlUonal parking, not tlrcumvlint tho) 50~ rliqulrvmlint
that I would havv to pay (or publlc, lor th9 pUblic laClllty Butlll was
W3nUng to hm moro) than 50~ at my o)xp+nse on my proltXt aM It
o)nhanco)(\ my bUilding, the valuo) 01 my bUilding, thlllc,ng tlirm
tXonomlcs 01 U1at bUilding, tho) conv~nlo)nco! lor lbo) tvn3nts,
conullo)Wal or rt1sldl.\nUal. r'd ~ U~l.\t. prl.\uy ups.it.loslng Ulat
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hUbby / You'd still be \~llIng to pay Impa(t f~f! for that'
Rumm~lhartl Dot(lntt'lly /
I:Ubby / 50~ but want th~ option o( putung mor... Ulan 50~ on your prop. my
Rumm~lhart/ Do!llnlt~1y But f Uunk th~ rub thm IS that f dont thm!: you'r~
gOing to ~ to many prol~ts WIlm If It Nm",s down th~ tubo:s WhHot
It's a 50,50 split, I UlInk thtl conCoinl by tho.', I mumoi tho.' PJrl:mg fns
~plo.' wvuld be that you won't fill up tho.' public ramp But j don't
thmk that thm's roially gomg to be that kind of probllim ~ausoi I
can hm ...nough peopl~ that hm a larg... €'Mugh PIO:C';' of ground
really to do too much addItional PJrklng WlUI
!:ubby / But people mIght choos.;. to go to th... ~:~n5';' 01 addmg SA)m...
und...rground parkIng, maybe ...v...n mor~ Ulan OM l.;.v...1 I m...an, f
don't know IC that's economically l(oaslbl.;., but It's a posSibility
Rumm...lhart/I can deflnt~ly tell you that It IS because Wve already ~n
lOOking at that, multi.lml und€'rground posSlblllU~s You know
hopelully It11 go. L<ot's SOt' hero, I'm trYIng to get out of your hair so
that you can k*p rOIling. On... sugg(osUon I'm conc(orMd aboutth..., on
th& PRM propos(l(l zone, I really UlIn!: Ulat WlUl Ul~ limit, Ul~ dUo:cUon
the proposv.j ordmancv IS gOing, WIth th(o, again WIth th~ parking, WIth
thoi drlv...ways, landscape bul((ors, With the r...strlcUons conc(orntng th...
parking r~utrement, you r(oally, I almost can guarant..'V you, W(o m
doillnl~ly going to bring that denSity way down, ~aus... and maybe
that's the dlr~Uon, I think that's kind o( th... ~ntJtlYV djr~Uon both
PZ and you (oll:s or... wan~ to go and stalf's trying to lormula~ tha~
it's gOing to I:nIXI: the Wind out o( UI... salls Ithmk 01 the actually high
doinsity. You'r... gOing to get some low to moolum d.;.nslty dmlopment
I just want to hm you (oll:s be sur... and think that ov.;.r, becaus(o I
thin I: With th(o tough restrictions, I'm not saYing wrong roistrtcUons,
lust tough, It's going to be very dllll(ult to build any number 01, haVe
very many roisldinUal units In Uli bUildings, Espvclally WIth thi
amount 01 restrictions, Il:lnd of call It thi box~ In thvvry And
maybe that's CtM but there again WIth the parking. trying to rtlsolvtl
the part-Ing probl&m, that's WIlat's gOing to happen. You'r(o gOing to
have a lot loss denSity down through Ulat corndor Ulan you sMuld
hav(o to tlnhanc& th... othf!r,th(o comm(owal spac.;.s on th~ Clrst lIoors
Y.Ubby / Do you thlnl: Ulat Ulll opUons compensat... lor Ulat, for tlltl
r&qulrllmtlnts? Incrvas(o thv d.;.nslly'
Rummilhart/ We mlly don't
!:ubby / Mal:~s It attracUv(o enough or thwr(o too
Rumm~lhart/ Pmonally In refmnce to that parUcular numb.;.r Tllit lllUd
PUblic beneflt ff1aturv conc(ornmg the alfordablv housmg program I
Uunk what you m gomg to flnd III gvneralls you arll gomg to fln,j
that II peoplv arv gOIng m that dlr~Uon WOi havv bv(on land 01 trymg
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Ul~ rofqUlro:rnoinllS at lml as · 31s (OI\C':rned Ulal you or" gOing to
llnd tho: paru<ular prO)oiI:llJo?lng IS gOing to 00 dldal.;.d (,) a high
,1,~r~~ by th~ ty~ orllnanCl3I bacl:lng In tM pr<:l!oi(l Bot 1110....'3
Ftnan~ AuthOrity. gOing to hav& anoUloir s.;.t 01 ro:.:julr(omo:nts as to
WIlJt U1OSO ro:nt limits ar~ gOing to be on a prol~l I think 3(v gOlllg
(I) Nm& mor(i Into play than thiS parucular pUbliC ~Mltt 1.3lIJr.
That IS my 100tial rvacuon You m gOing to haV(l an (onUrv prolv(l
WIllch ar~ low tncom~ or allordablv prole<t I thin\: you m gOing to
have othH prOje<ts WhiCh aro! your standlrd \)0) It slud~nt p)pUlauon
lor th~ most part or po?rhaps o:ld(orly That Is again my po?rsonal
thought. As far as you m~nUono:.:1 about tho burled uUIIU(os I am all
lor that all tho wa.y down thru their tnrron~ 01 Blackhawk Ulvr.~ .....;.
lrl~,.to gel a hug~ pol~ at 19ast drop down on tM ground With thv
tramlormors on thv ground w.)uld do tho front 01 that bUilding a lot
morv IUStiC& than WIlvr91t IS at now bu according to la III that IS
Inlo:aslbl~ at Ulls tim-:. Hthat can be wvrl:ed In somoiwa.y thm- again
you m W>:lghlng tho: costs agalnstlJo?lng abl~ to get som-: UllngS don-:
That IS always tough to do I W\)uld rofqu-:st of sugg&St also that In
the.as lar as thoi droIt conevrntng the PRM ~OM that In the wording I
don't hm a comple~ly u0aWd dralt 01 It but on tho se<tion that I
am showing, 36'15A. thoi Intvnl....1 ~uld suggest you put In that at
Imt In thV<.ry by m& th9 hIgh donslty has ~n ,Is OUtthoi Window
and Ithtnk It should be Changed to medium doinslty B<<ausv Ithlnl:
that is WIlat we ar(l up against. And thoi OIMr point Is It mIght be'
some more thought might be put on Ulis Is as lar as thv ro.lStrtcUons
that th& stat( have put togeth&r. Again I &mphaSlzoi I thin!: things are
In th9 right dlr.xUon lthlnl: trying to c1var up som& past prObloims
here It may be.WIlat wv arv doing WIltch again Is up to you 1011:5 to
consldor lIlt Is good or bad. You are putting a lot more rvsponslblhty
and a lot more pow9r In a parUcul3r pvrson's hand, thoi Dlri\tor vI
Planning WIlICh IS I am assuming Y.ar~n at thiS point In Umv. And I
thlnl: that maybe that pvrhaps thm IS two ....-ays to 1001: at that It
doosn't conco:rn moi I Ullnl: I g&t along With wllOo:voir is In that
poslUon down tho: road Poirhaps som9 oth(or IJWP1~ wvuldn't
Ultimat(lly that authority as j( IS wrj(~n W\)uld IJo? put on your llands
but In tM Initial St.'lgvs ~rhaps thmls a IltU~ too much control bo~lng
put In that position Tht) oth.r thing lust OppoSlt9 that Is maybY thm
is not ~lIQugll Mayt.v yvu ~llVuld put mort) llt):\lblliti'ln th& DuO(ton
hands and the start's hands as far as looking at ~3cll 01 UleS9
paruculsr prolects as th~y com~ up and not hm maybe so many
ro.lStnctions Ri!ly on thoilr ludg~m(ont t)v~n mori! And go hom Ult'l~
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(ljurln"y I Thank you, J"hn AnY')l\o! o!l!o! IIko! to a,Jdr"ss Ul!o$o! lUoms
limy Hlnkl'!y /1 11m a r~al plOblo?m WlU, you r.Mnglllg tM 10\5 to lI\'i<Jlum
,ji!n!lty It I' ei.'rtamly not high d"nstty II y<>u d') U'lal I haF,potn \l)
hm purchas.+i a pl~e 01 prop,my In that :onlng bo?<3USo? 01 ....1lat It
I~ I h3d ho~ tMt In Ul~ lutur~ that ~ would hav(, eom~ around to
d;,vvloptng d t down towards thy r3l1r~d tw\:. WIth (ommml313nd
3pt' or 3 mlxturv o( som.thlngll\:v that I'yyl What Mr.
Ilvlronymous S3ld aoout dmloplng the mwlum di.'nslty as I WIll call
It I don't r~ally think It IS d......illlng units In tho?r~ It IS r~allY gOing \l)
r(oStmtluturo? growth oltM d t aro?a 01 Iowa City One~ you bUild
$l:\mtthlng MW In thm that Is r~lauv~ly small It IS gOing to to: a long
llmt b+lore you change It The oth~r thing IS IS II you want som~thlllg
allordablt. you can't build allordable things on YI:ry my ~}:p.lnslv~
pro~rty WIth a v.ry viry liW number 01 units b<<aUSi the OOSIC
building cost IS hXN as lar as your building and tht ri!st 01 It gets.
Your land costs hm to ~ diminished by tht number 01 units that you
put thm TM othi!r thing 111m that I would really Ilke to bring out
IS I Ulln\: thm IS a ov~r r~acUon to two votry larg~ gray tjl~phants
pooping on tht sidewalk In that ma. You'Vt look~ atth~ rtst 01 us
that Wl)uld dmlop $l:\m~thlng thi.'r. and think Ulat maybof w. would
do UI& s.3mt. But I can assure you that not all 01 us would Ithlnk
most o( us would be a IItU>) mor. mponslbl>). ESf*:lally to our
customtrs or tvnants. With the prop+rty I have thm IS nothing I can
do Willi It undvr your proposed changvs Just Simply nothing at all
E:<<vptlust k~p It as It Is. I don't hm much prop+rty there. I am
not thi! big kid on th~ I>I000k I am th~ small kid I do want to stay
thm. IIiI:t llIe aria J thlnl: th~rv Is a lot olluturo) thm as lar as
Ule u~lulMSS to Iowa City and tho) cMens TM main problems I
hm With thtj prow..als ar(l that when ....'0) start talking about points J
think about basl:,tball, lootball, I:lds games on tv. and maybe
computvr gam" J don't think that our llnanclallutur(l and ....'(lll being
In thiS community shOuld be basvct on points lor domg thIngs The
points com, about to the dmlopvr by hiS long term plans With hiS
Pflllit:t Wh,Ulvr peoplv roint lrom him or not Tllat's wb(lrv thv MI
points c,)me In TMy d....n't eomot In at tht bvalnnlng WIth som(lbody
saying ......,11 glvv you thIS II you do that I hm a I:lnd 01 a ood ',)eUng
aboutth~t I also Ullnk tMt svm~ 1:1n(\ 01 a pomt systlJm mIght Ix.
mtsusYd I thin!: It could be dOM In som~ way 1:3r1n brought up
som~thlng ~bout would you glVt mor(l points lor thiS to (lstabUsh
lowvr lllcom, hOUSing or allordablv hOUSing I th In I: that II you want
31l0rdablv hOUSing you nli\od to lIavv somvlY.oo1Y to bull.:1 allordab!e
MUSing. I UllJlt It's a lot V3S1,r, a lot clo!antr, a lot Mat(.r It's r~ally
vvry hard to tal:v hOu"ng lor low Ino:omv p<<>plv and mly.lt WIth
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hOUSing that ....o,;uI1IuVoi to t~ v~ry oi~~nil'/~ 35 Ul~s.:' poP.)s31~ m
In g~nml, What I ......)uhl rli311y It\:\' \I, \~ IS Ul~ '!'!l\\lly 1f.1 f'!lIlJIl\
high, not as pro~w In thi' m~jlum brac\:~t, I w\;.uhJ It\:,!
I:Ubby / What IS your dellntUon 01 high?
Illnc\:lvY /1 wvuld Itl:~, \0.'(,11670 or so ~uar\' 1M pon UnltlS high dvnslly 01
lot ar~a, I don't ~On5ldyr lint Nry high at all I think It n",1$ to bY
Nn51dmbly abov. that I mlly don't h3"v a numt.vr lor It boKau5v
WIth th~ dlrrmnt slZ~ and Varlity 01 units that you put In thvr\l So I
don't r.;>ally hm a nUmber lor that, but th~ plecv 01 prop+rti' thH I
hm wvuld hold roughly nln~ units un<J;r your propos.!1 tM way It IS
right now ....")uld hold conMmbly larg\lr than U1al. many Um'~ mor(l
And fiS Randy, It could ~ v(lry ugly Illt ~ri d'?M Impropo.-rly But I
Ulln\: there's ways to control Ulat a lot NSI(lr M3S4)nry structur\\S's tM
only thing that I wuld build, On, othvr thing I hmd 1I1lS mnln~ I
lorg-:t WIlo said It, and that's tin root SI,j~ M backs II you'r~ gOing to
be putting b.llcont~ I would not build anyllllng that ....'.lsn't lIln loot
lrom thi lot Iln,to anoth~r bUilding e~aus(ll \Nuld Itk.;> thv peopli
WIlo r,nt (rom mi to hm a Ittllo) bit (>1 SPJCi and try to have somi
quallly Ilthiy do look out thi Wlnd,)w I thin\: balconl(o$ 3ft! r(llaUv(lly
Important.../ would stJlI/ust to It at tin (oot As Car as thv SHb3cl:s 01
lront yards and sid, yards lor that arva J thin\: that the ~tt<acks m
unnecorssary. Wi hm Vitry ....'dt mi\1lans ~l"",*n Ule sld,walk and
th, street You just ta\:\' away land u~, You end up WIth my viry
UtUi. ESF*<lally at the corMr lot I happYned to purchasi a lot WIlvrt
I can put three laym 01 undvrground project. ad\'o~ua~ parking Cor
tht peoplt...worned about 1I1~ rest Olth, commumty havmg to plCI: up
posstblt (evs lor mt to go In and 11m only 50~ 01 my parking on tht
prolect Wi as dmlopors shoul,j be rvsponslbli Cor tht adequa~
parking o( our ~nants, It you could 50~ oil, you Mv, a vtry v,ry
larg. proj.;<L r.laUvily small should r~ulr. 75~ o( your parking and
thi number 01 parking spaces propos~ IS a lot bvttir than What It
was I'v~ a,ways thought It should W Inmas.!d ~m~WIlat y~s It
would Incria~ my C')Sl It cost .....ould tnmaS9 my d~nslty musl
InCr>ias~ to mal:i a vtablti prolect Tllat IS r>ially about alii hay!! to
Sdy at~ut It
Larson/Is 1I1at correct nurn~r In t,rms 01 all how unlu II" could d"V~IOp
1Iltjr~ It h& did 1I1lngs IIk(o (onslruct,x! mas,)nry and stall Wasn't how
I wai r.adl1l8 It
Franklin/ Hi has a 12,000 S\llt lot
Larson/ MOO
Franklln/ Just tn terms or thti gross, Harry and I w(ont ov(or hiS lot Tho
total numbo!r 01 unlls you could 11m, takl/lg Ul~ 81 OSS 5q lootag(o
W1juld be 13 units Now you probably \\\Jul,j only bUild 12 and that IS
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you llad 7 points so you coul,j bullll ~lll(l~nCI~S, tMn you could goit 20\
units. But tMy wvuld haV~ to t~ ~rflmn(l~ That IS wMroi tflat II
com,s Into play
Larsonl With aU Ul~ bonus points M coul,j accumulate, II hI: dldn'tlJulld
.ttlct.nct.s, h9 (ould only build 12 UOl'"
CHI/AGEr APE TO REEL ')2.21 SWE I
Franklin/ OM unit pozr 700 sq It That is shghUy (':SS Not havlllg a
<al(ulator,17
Larson/\?, The reason I all: IS ~4US" I don't W3nt to hm thiS thln~ ~n;j
up WIlero a lot oll^'Oplo: can't f<'ilmlop H~ haS got 19 units thm
now...OM Olthio parcoils I would like to \* r~mlo~
Franklin/In wms olth~ d~nslly ISSU~ and John suggfiU"n thatth~ namoi to:
changEod or expressed as medium d<-nslty RIght now ~';: hav<- an RM,
144 %009, RM. 145 and Ithlnl: as Bob e~'Pla\n(o(\ last night ThiS laUs
hlgl\i:r than UI" RM,\H butd,linlfl.olY less Ulanth, P,M.I~5 Th3t IS
baslcaUy 101l0Wlng wIIat ~ lelt thoi direction thatth~ C.,mm and
council wer~ going In tP.rms 01 decrming doinslty. TM OOw doinslty II
10Wvr so that thm donslty bonuses wvrk. You have to hm som.,
bas, with wlIlch to ~rk oth~r wls," thoir, II no advantag, to going to
th~ bonum. So that Is wlIy It IS s~t up th, W3y It Is and It rangtS
lrom 50 dwelling unIts pir acr(t to 67 d....ovlllng units pir acro IS tho
maY..
Larson/ What <ould he put there under thoi cumnt zoning
Franl:lln/ Under the current zoning It Is dllllcult to dwrmlM ~au~ the
RM,I45 doos not have a pozr unlt rtXIulremont but It wal baSically
dmlopOO lrom thO other RM,I~5 at about I po:r ,00 sq It So thoin
you are taly.lng about 30 units,
OM other point In tyrml 01 the density, Whoin you do loo\: at
Individual smaUlots It IS harder to build and ma~~ml:e thorn \I you
put lots togother you have moro lloXlblllty
MIY.lo/ As lar as WIlat IS Uloi d~ClnlUon ollllgh d~nslty, It van~s 110m
community to community Ono1 01 thoi Ullng that W~ IO<)l:~1 at wMn
Wit put thiS ordinance togotho)r IS wMt otlNr ClUes do and WIlat IS Ul~
max. dc-nslty allowed ^ gOoXl compamon IS [lvs MOIMS, 10\'.'3 ^
much larger city thalllwa City Th~Y allow a m~:{ (II SO units po;r
acre In th<-lr hlgMst donslty apt Madison, Wls(onsln IS anothH OM
'110 looked at and U10Y allow(o(i 43 wIllclllS v<-ry (omparabli' to our ,4
Again. comparing to oth"r CltliJS thiS IS not a moolum d~nslW
classtllcatton
CourtMY / Any other (ommonts on thm Itr!ms
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Gentry/ J}) you want to continue all 01 Uloirn, lurn~ UI~rn all ~:>g~Uloircan
still stay on the timetable.
Courtney/ Moved and ~ondoo to conUnue all 01 tMse ph S (Ilorow/Ambr)
Allin (avor,
MoUons carrl~s.
I:arr / Hav~ moUon to accept correspondence.
Courtney / Moved and ~onded to accept any corrvspondence (Horow/
Ambr)
Allin lavor,
MoUon carries.
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Iowa City City Council
Regulor Council Moetlng
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Public helllng on en ordlnlnce amending tho Zoning Ordlnanco (Chapter
36110 eltobllsh . Centrol BUllnoll Support (CB.51 Zono,
Comment: At It. meeting on Jlnu.,y 9, 1992, tho Pllnnlng end Zoning
Commllllon recommendod, by . 5,0 vote, epprovol 01 emendmont. to
tho Zoning Ordinance to ostablllh . Centrel Busln.,. Support (CB'51
zone, Tho ordlnanco end a memorendum lummarlzlng h. content ore
Included In tho Council pocket.
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Action: ~ ~~~ (l~.. A.
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Public hoorlng on.n ordinance amending tho Zoning Ordlnlnce (Chapter
361 to ostablllh a PlIMed High Donslty Mulu.Femlly Relldentl.1 (PRMI
Zone,
Comment: At III meeting on Jonulry 9, 1992, the Planning and Zoning
Commllllon recommended, by a 5.0 vote, approval 01 on amendment
to the Zoning Ordlnonceto oslebllsh. PlaMed High Density Mulu.Femlly
RelldentlollPRMlzone, Tho ordlnonce ond a memorondum lummorlzlng
III content are Included In tho Council pocket.
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Public hoarlng on en ordlnonco amending tho Zoning Ordlnonce (Chopto,
361 by omendlng tho oll'ltreet pO/kino requlromontl,
Comment: At It. meeting on Jonuory 16, 1992, tho Planning ond
Zoning Commllllon recommendod, by a 5,0 vote, opprovol 01 tha
proposod omondmontto revlso tho oll.stroot parking roqulromontllor
ulOIln the CB.5 and PRM zonos, Tho ordinance ond 0 momorendum
lummorlzlng III content.,e Includod In the Council packet,
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Public hearing on .n ordinance .mending Ch4ptor 32.', Texotlon e.
Revenuol. to Ilfovlde lor . porklng ItructUle Impoct leo,
Comment: Tho Neor Southsldo Nolghborhood Redovolopmenl Plan
Ilfovldea lor tho IItlblllhmont 01 dlltrlcllln which tho plNlte lector
dllectly pllticlpltolln IlnanciolluPport lor needed public IICllltlll, ThII
ordlnanc. .1IIb1ilhol tho Neor Southslde Dllulct and tho mech4n1am lor
colloctlng . 100 In lieu 01 on,slte perking Ipac..'Ot resldontl., dovelop'
mont within tho dllulct. At It I moetlng on Jlnuary 16, 1992, tho
Planning Ind Zoning Commllslon recommended conlldoratlon olthll
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Milo hoorlng on an OIdlnanco amending tho Zoning Ordlnonce by
choll\llng tho use regulltlon. !rom RM.145 to PRM 01 opproximately
aeven .cr.. 01 land located louth 01 Court Sueel, well 01 Moldon Lano,
gonerelly GIlt 01 Cepltol Sueet,.nd north 01 the Iowa IntolltOle Rallwoy
\Ine, In an oroo relened 10 .. tho Neor Southsldo,
Comment: Atlta mooting on Jonuary 9,1992, tho Plonnlng and Zoning
commission recommended, by . 5,0 vote, opplov.1 01 the rezoning 01
lho aroo gene,.lIy locOled on both sid.. 01 L1M SUOOI belween Court
and Prentlll auoetl; the or.. bounded by Prentlll suoot on tho nOlth,
Clpltol Sueet on tho Welt. Dubuquo Sueel on the out, Ind Wright
Sueet on the aouth: end tho er.. located 01 tho north..1I COIner 01
Dubuque and Prentill IUOotl !rom High Rile Multi,Famlly Relldontlol
IRM.1451to PloMed High Donslty MultHemlly ROIldontlallPRMI.
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R.gullr Council Mo.tlng
Fobruery 4, 1992
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Conlld.r .n ordlnanc. Im.ndlng tho Zoning Ordinanc. by changing tho
use r.gul.tlonl ol.n ,pploxlmlte 20,8 Icr. trlCt olllnd loclt.d louth
01 FOlt.r Rood, north 01 Tilt Spo.dWIY, W.lt 01 PI,kvi.w Ev.ng.llcll
Fr.. Church, .nd out 01 .n l.IlWmod It,o.tlrom RS.8 to OPOH,a, I
pI.llmlnary pllMOd d.v.lopm.nt housing IPDHI plln lor IdyllwUd
Condomlnluml, 10wI City, lowe, IZ.9104.nd 5,9\111 (Second
Consld.~'tlonl
Comm.nt: At It I Nov.mber 2\, 1991, m..tlng, by I vote 01 6.0, tho
P1ennlng .nd Zoning Commllllon r.commond.d opplovll oIl plopolIl
lubmlll.d by Idyll wild, Inc. 101 . pI.llmlnory pleMOd d.volopm.nt plon
known IIldyllwlld Condominiums, I 104,unlt, r.sld.ntlol d.volopmont
locOl.d onth. Idyllwlld tr.ct, The Commllslon'. r.comm.nd.tlon Is
lubj.ct gon.rllly to lubmllslon Ind ,pplovol 01 conltructlon Ind l.gII
docum.nts prior to Council consldor.tlon 01 the pl.n. To dot., l.gII
docum.nt. h.v. beon lubmlll.d to tho City Ind mUlt be IPplov.d by
th. City AIlOlney'. Ollie., Construcllon pl.nI.nd drlwlngl hevo be.n
submlllod end er. being r.vi.wod by tho Public Works D.portmont. Tho
Commllslon's r.comm.ndetlonls conslllOnt with tho Itlll'lr.comm.n.
d.tlon, Comm.ntsregardlng th. plopolIl w.r. r.c.lv.d by Council It
th. Jenu.ry 7 .nd J.nuery 2\ publiC ho.rlng. onthllltom. ou. to tho
OKlOnl 01 notarlz.d 101l.r. 01 prot.ltlrom neighboring ploporty owner.,
this ordlnanc. will r.qulr. .n .xtreordlnary m'lorlty vote 01 Councillor
.pprovel,
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v.c.tlng th. ollicl.1 plot olldyllwlld Subdlvillon, lowe City, lowe,
Comm.nt: Approvll olth. pr.llmlnary Pl.M.d D.v.lopm.nt Housing
Plon end tho L.rgo Scole Rllld.ntl.1 Dov.lopm.nt Plan lor Idyllwlld
Condomlnlums will nocmltllo vacating tho 11nal pl.t.pplov.d lor tho
20,8 acre lit., Du. to th. Council'. r.vll.d m..tlng Ich.dule .nd tho
publlc.tlon roqu!rom.ntl lor vecotlng en olllclel plot, th. It.II II
recomm.ndlng Ihot CounclllOtth. publlo hoeflng .t thl. tlm.,
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Conlldor e losolutlon approving the flnol plot 01 HuntO" Run Subdlvl.
lion, POlt sovon, a lubdlvlslon 01 Iowa City, Johnlon County, Iowa,
\SUB 91.0030: eO.day IImltotlon porlod: Febluary 10, 19921
comment: On Janulry 9.1992. the Plannlno and Zoning comml1l1on
recommended, by' vote 015.0. applOVal ole final pllt IOf Hunte" Run
Subdlvlllon, Part Soven, I 20.lot, IPploximlte 8,33 acre lubdivlalon,
locoted nOlth 01 Rohtet Rood .nd welt 01 Highway 21 eon FOllana DrlVl
extended lublect to: 1 I City epplovll 01 ell conluuctlon plans. 21 final
.pprovel 01 elllogal documonts by the CIIV Attornoy's Olflce, and 31 an
extenllon 01 the ollplratlon data 01 the ,pploved, omended p'ellmlnory
plot lor Hunters Run Subdlvlalon, Ports Four tlllough Nino, to Novomber
3,1992, The commllalon'S recommondatlonll con,lltent with that 01
Itoll "Itated In the January 9, 1992,ItollrePOll, The conluuctlon
planl.nd 'egol documentlore being reviewed by City stall, On January
2 I, 1992, City Council oxtendod the plellm1nary pllt apploval IOf
Huntora Run Subdlvlllon, Pertl Four tlllough Nine, to November 3.
1992.
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John Rummvlhart/l almost mlss~ It I hm got a bit 01 J 'MY small
po:rhaps public orl\'nt(.,j m~sag\' Ulat I \\~uld IIJ((' to pm on to you
lolk~ and mor~ Impor!.lnUy to thm lolk$ I happ.;n to g~t a copy of
th~ budget Just a sm3111l~m lust ~Ior~ I ran down hm thiS .v~nlng
I \-;as I<-Jlmg thru that on cap ouuay on all the dlllmnt depts I lust
piCked on". It&m (or ".:Qmpl&. I tool: chairs, In g&nml. chairs Didn't
mn g~t Ulru the WIlol~ list I count(oljl elldo:d up With count 01 35
(hairs With an avmge Chair lor the prop.)so:d 9 3 budg~t, the mrage
chair costing.. 1269 ,6 Thos& m pretty e~~nSlvf) chairs by me TM
moral 01 this story would bo) that Ule P/R Dlrco(tor Is lOOl:lng at 2
chairs lor his olllct at only 1150 pvr chair So I would proJ>>Se a
pot...nUal savings 01 aoout HMO II Wit lit! tht Dlre<tor o( P IR buy
mrybody el$O's chairs lor the City o( Iowa City Small point Not
ne<essartly a protest I lust hope that somt mort peopl... Ulat \\\)uld
possibly be Manng this convmation UIIS mntng tal:it a lot more
conwn on WIlat Is going on With this budget process ~ausit this Is a
,ninor &Y.ample, sad to see not very much participation Larson/ Steve,
can you expound upon on that also so they get OOth sides ollt
Atkins/ I hm no Idea WIlat hi ts !.lll:lng about It you want me to go
thru the budgH and start adding up chairs and dividing by,l hm no
Ide:!. Wt bUY chairs In bull:. We have Chairs-replacing In Roc. Center
som... 01 Which m 30 years old..!( you want to llnd out the cost 01 a
particUlar (hair Ul...n pick up Ule phone and call me and I Will be
happy to show you the bids,. buy most olthtm locally hm in town
Rummelhart/ thaI's grtat
^U:lns/ Wo havo an Obligation to g...t thtlowvst and oost bid..! happon to ltll
vvry strongly that an employ.. Is disirvlng o( J quality (urnlture Jnd
lIxtures N<Juse It Improves tM work envtronmint.l have no Idea
Whtrv you eaml) from. don't mislead the PUblic. Need to 1.&11 me
sp.i(lllcally WIlat you art tJll:lng about
Rummtlhart/ In tht propos>)d 93 bUdget pael:lit WlllellI llappo:n to plel: up
at last Monday's worl: sesslonJool: at the dlllerent dtpts cap ouUays
proje<tions.. added up all tho dillmnt chairs 35 chairs at Ulat aye
(Mt W!d~ '!~mtJon th~r~ yv. ior the same ty~..d.:s'rlu.d 'lialr I
am sure It IS not the e:oct same chair
Ct)urtn...y / Id~nU~al chair ..lull sympathy 01 bUYing good chairs le,r our
4lmployevs .
Rummelhartll am not saYing you are not dmrvlng produeUvlty r<~s on
right chair lor Ul910b r~al point IS Ulat I would hop" Ulat th&
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budg,lJry proc(<S$
courlJl,y/1 agr~
I..1rSijn/1 think that IS elWcUy tho ....'I'ong approach towards gHting lnvolv~
In tM budget. Too many pi'{'pl, thJt m unwt1ltng to PJY ror the local
gov,rnm,nt that th,y d,m3nd.llnd out abOut re31lstle ISSUolS..butto
try to m3k~ It In to a ~nugon sllv,r p13t.d hammir by saying !hl$ 1$
too much dollar cost lor chairs, that IS d~trucuv, 01 peoplo's bellel or
local gov,rnmtnt ..don't appr~la~ that
I:Ubby / Good to mlual, Ulat look 3t hOW much we pay (or (urnlturo.
Lart<>n/ Look at tho actual chaiN 'thtn mal:t a [tal rauonal point about It
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Courtn~y/ Moved by Nov, s<<ond~ bY Ambr Oly.usslon
!Iov / Hav~ Wt all of our do(um~nl5ln ord~r
Karr / You hm a rtvl~ rtiOlUUon In lront of you thlj mnlng Th3t Ii tM
OM you WIll tot acting on.
tlov/ Okay,
G.ntry I Which rtn~t ,ubl~t \.0 publiC work" dlC~tor" approval oftht
eOMtrUcUon plans for s\.Orm w~ter m3n3g.m~nl
t!ov / Art Wt still on a subl+:l \.0 basiS as Wt approv~ thiS r*luuon.
Gentry / With rMptellO the storm wa~r maM&~rn~nt conslrUction on s~
and pl3n5'Yes,
tlov/ And legal dO(umonU?
G~ntry / TMY art approvtd.
Courntby / Any othor discussion
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REPORT ON ITEMS FROM THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY.
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Horow/I h3V~ tW\l things thiS ~v~nlng The Brst OM I \'o'3nt to r~mtnd
~ple about the c~libraung Cultural DIversity at the Unlv~rslty, F~b
?th, noon until 6 pm ThiS IS gomg to b(l ov~r at the University and I
am hOping poopl~ Will go over there at the FI~ld Hou~ Plenly 01
things going on. Sp<<<h~ Some recognitiOn on allth~ varlOUS
students at the University Then Irom H on Ule sam~ day tho)re Is
an open hOuw at the Em~rg~n~y Housing SMlt~r I am hOping that a
lot 01 poopl' Will com. and take 0 loo\: otlM Ern.rgtncy 1I0uslng
SMI~r and perhaps sign up to voluntwr and or to dona~ things
Y.ubby I Remind pooplt'lthat tho Cultural D!vorslly won'llust ~ luSI spwcMS
and awards Gam~ and load. Fun
Horow/ Last year was a lotollun. I really enjoywd Il
Ambr / Mr. Mayor, as you art \'oovll aware, Mxt W*\:ontxt Monday at t ~o
you Mve destgnatod me as council surrogalh to present you at Ulo)
annual tribute to ntmns at the V., Hospital. OUr carry your
proclamation and road It proudly lor you AI(hr that. wlllCh IS the
(ustom,th~ of us who are not only ve~rans but a great many
poople In the community wllO do a lot 01 voluntary service at the
Vewrans Hospital Will loin In a ntual 01 going to each room n the V)',
Hospital and ~ dlstrlbU~ valentines to the patients who are there
from all over the mldW*l ValenUn~ m unique In that they are
each 000 an original WOI\: 01 alt bY the s<hool children the the
nolghborhoad. And I wtlllust proudly b& tho)re again Everybody IS
Invited to como. That IS all,
Kubby /1 havo a few things, OM 01 the things wo tal\:&ct about last night
that I thought about and want to t.3lk about again. It Is aboultho
CDBG lunds and tradluonally wq uso 50~ 01 thorn lor publiC sorvlc~
wlllch means employotS and Wi tal:e that mOMY Irom the blOC\: grant
program and put It In to Aid to AgencieS And It was suggostod to
Increase some lIe)Oblllty that Wi pUlthat doWll to la so U\at the
bloc\: grant lunds can b& usW With a little groa~r lI~:(lb\llty In (hrms
01 propo$OlS. Aller thinking aboUllt a mUI>, I om l:lnd QI,lt was tho
end 01 a long evonlng and Wi kind 01 lust said Wi will lust loave It as
It Is but bO(aUSO I havo a I~ltnglhat Wllh our ollordablo housing
strategies, Wi might b& using lilv.:k gr~nt funds lor a tot 01 those
ISSUes as woll as l:otpmg our rehab program up And It Wi ta\:e Ule
15~ for Aid to AgenclOS that leav~ hardly any money leltlor spv<llIc
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proposals that m community IntUatw This WIll lust glv>) that
program a IItU& lIt'X1blllty so I would like us to reUunl: Ul>) answer
that we gm.
Larson/It was 12~.
Nov/ What we gaYO was 12~
Y.ubby/ Was It E>>:u~ my wasting your time ...It was late Ilhought It was
that we wm k~plng It the sam~
Thi Othir thing was In terms Olthi Planning Division's Works
program I ,,^,uld lite us to spend, t>ven lIlt Is lust ~n mlnuOO5 at an
in(ormal m*ting. making sure that we agr* WIth that ~use It
~ms like tho FY 92 ,,^,rl: program IS v(:ry amblUous lor the (ow
months that art left In FY 92, Just g~t som~ more d~tall about that
and make sure that W& agr" WIth that list of prjorIU~s. Is that okay
WIth (l('Opli.
Horow/ Y~ah, WIlat do we do WIth that
Courtn~y/ That program goes on a FY.
Kubby / That Is how It Is S9t up In this schedule.
Franklin/ Bf<auSt th~ Urban Planning Dlv, has an ~normous ,,^,rk load Wt)
altempted to put It In to Uscal years lor tho pur~ 01 manag(:mont.
So It Is b.1slcally a schedul~ of how we In~nd to wor!: through thOSi
variOUS Items and som~ olth~ things we bumpOO to FY 93 and 94 and
y&S, FY 92 Is amblUous,
Ilov /But som~ olthosv things hav~ bHn In th~ works lor aWht1~.
Franklin/ Th~y hm WIllch Is anothor r~ason lor putting th~m Into FY so that
we can monitor It rouch mor~ clost)ly,
Nov/ What J am trying to say Is ~aust) th~y hm bHn In th~ works (or a
While thoy can be finished WIthin 92.
Franklin/ Yts, That Is trUt.
I:Ubby / J want to conUrm this list 01 prlorltios. And ilthm Is somtthlng
that n*<1s to be shil~ Wt) nHd to give tho Planning ~pt. that
dlr~Uon.
Franklin/ Y~ W~'d appreciate It As long as you don't sllllllt all Into FY 92
Kubby / Aclually J have a question about something on pag~ 3 about
subdivision r~ulatlons and .c IS Impact (~~s and Infractions and
~nvlronm~ntallmpacl'What.
Franklin/ It could be any kind Th~ Urst one that we are trying Is tho
parking laclUty Impact l~e but th~re has be(:n som~ Inter~st on thO
part olth~ P fl Comm. to look at that tool for other things and we have
to weigh that qUite cmlully In terms Of WIlatlt does to th~
dovolopmont process, UIO cost 01 housing and all 01 UIOSO kinds 01
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things that might possiblY be aCl~t.;.j by It
r.ubby / Or &Conoml~1 dmlopm~nt
Franklin. Y(01 An.j $I.) ~ hm:n't'
r.ubby / Optn ~ndw 3$ to what arm you are looking at
Fr ankhn/ Y tt.
Horow/ Karin, may I build on that on that S3m~ pag~' Y.arm Franklin Under
Histone PftS+rvaUon Comm acUVIU~ .b was to rtS+arch
am~ndm~nts, su~ngUI and revltW requlrtmtnts lor porch removal,
addition of manufactur~ Siding and Increased ~naIU~ lor
alIA rations and dtmohUons which O((ur WIthout a ~rmll I wondmd
wMthtr thtrO might $I.) tit an InconUve to look at elthtr IncrtaSlng tht
~naltitt or dtcroaslng tho ~naltitt for Mt domollshlng a building
and rather promoting rehablllUtion 01 the building Is thtre $l.)me
way that that parUcular obltctivO could bt Wl)rdtd to bt an InconUve
to nMbllltatt tho MU~ rathtr than Inma~ the ptnally lor
d~mohshlng.
FrankUn/ That Is tho othtr side olll CortalnlY that IS part oltht
Commission's work and It Is loldtd Into things IIki ~ are dOing on th,
SOuth Sldo, ThO fo. ,tho ~nalty for tM dtmollUon Is ~t by Sta~
Codo $I.) Il mms that ~ han to do tll3lthrough a legislative prociSS
and tho comm. \'lI)uld bring It to the council or ItglslaUve commll~ to
lobby the sl.1tt to get that (hangtd. SO that WIll I.1ke (onSldorable
timo to accompUsh that I would think.
Horow/I onlY haYt OM othor OM and that IS pag, 2. Ar, ~ r,allY dOing
this right now.
Courntty II don't think ...... had It schtdulid Look forward to an Inlormal
Y.ubby /IS1uO o( dmlopmenl. hOUS+S on tho cornor 01 O\lbuquo and Church
SU~L I am un.jor tht undorsundlng that w;I really can't do anything
dlrtcUy but I ....'3nt to know It thif& art opUons (or oncouraglng thoso
strUctur~ to not tit domollsh&ct. WMthor that IS through nogoUaUon
WIth tho (urront ownor 01 WIth thO porspective owner or whatevor
But I don't want to s~ tvon a nlco apartment building theN. Thalls a
very Important cornvr for Ule ontraneoway oftowa City which Is
touch~ upon In thO Comp Plan What can ~ do.
Franklin/ Wo havo altompted to nogouate With thO ownm alroady and
baSIcally ~li<J .v.n going $0 far as to e.,nntct In~r.sttd parUtS wllo
Wl)uld be Interested In buying It from tho olOsUng ownH to resmo
the pro~rty as IS. That has not \'lI)rk&ct oul Th&ro IS a building
~rmllthallS now under review for an apartment building that would
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dmlopor to get som~ MSlgn c~nsldmUons In that apallm~nt
building and dtmlnlshm~nt olth~ numlJolr 01 units Ilow~wr, haVfn't
~n su<<esslul in saving th. buildings
t:ubby / Some o( tho historic overlays :onts or SOmothlngs that IS In lb+
works In your work diVision plan h+lp us not to hm som+thlng Uko
thiS happtn again.
Franklin/ Tho wllol~ noUon 01 translmed dovelopmtnt rights could be
appll~ In tilt nOlthsldo as well as tho south Sldo You hm to hm
thon somo place lor those dmlopm9nt right to go 5') we would hm
to work that out but that Is onolo3turo ObVIOUSly d"lgnaUon o(
historic districts WIllch has not ~n successlul on the northsldo so lar
and anything olso Wt can build Into as InconUvts lor the presorvolUon
01 buildings. Yes, It IS part 01 things that Wt art working on
t:Ubby / Thts Is vitry dlsh9artenlng to me.
Nov / A long the samollnols thoro any Chanc9that we can movothosv
bUildings,
Frankllnl OUr problem right now would bt thtro IS no plac~ to move thtm
to, That Is thit problem that we havit had. And we brought to you
acqulslUon o( 11 lot on I Street and this Is part o( a WIlole policy that
we art working on right now about acquIring lots so \t,'I} would hm
an Inventory to movo buildings or to potonUally build altordabl.
housing. But tht problom WIth thoso t\t,'1) hosts right now In torms 01
Umlng,no it WOld not Ilelthor oltheso houses would be appropriate I
tho I Str&tt Mlghbolhood. It Is totally dtl(orvnt..That Is a dOUble lot
It Is a good sl:olot on I Strevt but It just would t;.) tol.1l1y Inconsistent
with What Is around it You don't want to Ins9rt that So, as lar as
thOSIl two houSts 3ro concorn~ we don't hm any site to movo thorn
to and we won't hm ono In Umo (or WIlon they art to bi domollshtd.
Wo probably WIll get salvag. ma~rlals lrom thom
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Courtn~y/ City Attorn~y,
Gentry /1 have two,~II, one I~m dealing with two proporti~ In the City
that have btvn thorns In th& neighbors side lor stvVral yem and they
hav& lInally I think ~ art coming to compl&tion 01 the problem~ on
the dupl~x on Jefl~rson Is lInlshed and the proporty on Church haS
btvn purchased on contract and IS ~Ing compl~te<l and deOOed mr
to another own~r by April, TIle Mlghbors shOuld ~ very pleased
Ann 8urnslde's good work,
Cournl&y /What happened to the 00& on Jeflerson.
Gentry/It was llx&d up and lInlshed.
Courtney / Drop by and 1001: at that
Gentry/ Y&5, Do drive by, Ann deserv&5 a pat on the back for both of them
Horow/ Are the nelghbors,ls thm any way that th& n&lghbors can bt
Informed as to on Church Str*t as to Who the owner IS or What the
plans wllI~. Is it just gong to be lInlshed the way It is They still
have a loto( frustrations"
Gently II would sugg&5t that they call Ann.
Larson/ Maybe the Northsldt Ass<<, could put It In thm Mwsletl&r. That
was Assist&<! City Attorney Ann 8urnsldethat we want to thank...
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10wI City City Council
Regular Council Maotlng
Febluory 4, 1992
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ITEM NO.9'
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CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AMENDING A CERTAIN SANITARY SEWER
EASEMENT AOREEMENT WITH GOODWILL INDUSTRIES LOCATED IN
THE SOUTH ONE.HALF OF THE NORTHWEST QUARTER OF SECTION
24, IN TOWNSHIP 79 NORTH, RANGE 8 WEST OF THE 5TH P,M,
Commont: This resolution Imonds. unltory sewer Igreoment between
th. City Ind Goodwllllndultrles, The City It/II molntolnsIntereltIn I
logmont ols.nltlry lowor, The City Is rololslng only Iho logmont 01
tho OISomontlS dOlcrlbod In Exhibit A end loc'lod within proporty
ownod by Goodwllllnduslrlos, Both 0' thoso sogmonll ero It tho end
01 tho orlglnll Lowor Muscallno Trunk, much 01 which hIS beon
ropllcod by tho SOUlholstlnlorceptor Sowor projoct,
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CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING A PROPOSAL FOR DEVELOP.
MENT OF A PORTION OF THE VILLA GARDEN URBAN RENEWAL PLAN
AREA, APPROVING A FORM OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BY AND
BETWEEN THE CITY OF IOWA CITY AND IOWA CITY IOWA HOUSING
ASSOCIATES LIMITED PARTNERSHIP AND AUTHORIZING EXECUTION
OF REQUIRED DOCUMENTS,
Commont: A Dovolopmont Agroomont end other roqulrod documont.
have been drollod by Ahlors, Coonoy, Dorwollor, Hoynlo, Smith a.
Allboe, P,C" logol counsollor the City, which will enoble tho Vlllo
Gorden Apartmonll projoct, locotod at tho northoost cornor 01 BroldwlY
Slrolt Ind proposod Croll Pork Rood, 10 bo IInancod wllh Tex Incre.
mont Flnonclng, Tho dovolopor, Robort p, Burns, Is Inloroslod In
entorlng Into tho Dovolopmont Agroomont so thai tho silo cln be
acquired Ind construction can bogin, A momo dOlolllng tho Ipoclllcs 01
tho Developmont Agroomontls ollachod with Iho agondo motorlals,
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F.btUlry 4, 1992
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ITEM NO. 11 .
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RESOLUTION OF INTENT TO CONVEY TO JEFFERY L. AND DEBRA M,
CONKLIN CITY INTEREST IN UNUSED SEWER EASEMENTS AT 1532
ROCHESTER AVENUE.
Comm.n:: TNII. the fir.1 .t.p In .n ,cllon which will r.mov. . tltl.
cloud CIIII.d In 1967 when ."tutory proc.dur.. w.r. nOllollow.d to
,".ct . 101.... 01 c.rt.ln obsol.l. IInlllry ..w.r ....m.nt., Th.
r'loIutlon Itlt..the Inl.nt 01 the Council to romov. this cloud by Qull
Cl.1m Dud, loll owing the provillon. 01 the Code ollowe. It .110 .ot.
public helrlng lor Morch 3, 1992, on the proposel, which will b.
follow.d by . r..oIutlon euthorlzlno lh. execution 01. Oull Clolm D..d
10 the property.
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Courn~y/ En~rl.1in a moUon lor adlournm~nl
Larsonl D.1rrel, bvloro you adjourn 1 would lust want to say that 1 valuo
public Input and 1 think th3l1 was too brusk ....,th John Rummtlhart a
mlnulf ago Whon ho complained about tho prlco 01 tho chairs I want
to apologtzi to him on th~ re\ord as I chasUS\-..j him, He usually has
good sugg~Uons. I didn't agr~ WIth hiS ono tonight but I just want to
got on tht r~ord that I could havt rtlSpondM moro cour~usly.
courtn~y I Thank you.
Movt and ucondvd to adjourn All In lovor. Thank you
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City of Iowa City
MEMORANDUM
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OAT E: J.nulry 31. 1992
TO: City Council
FROM: Cltylllnager
RE: Work Sosslon Agendll .nd Heating Schedule
Mond.y
City Conference Board Heetlng . Council Chlmb.rs
Seplrlte Igendl posted
7:00 . 9:30 P.H. City Council Work Session. Council Chllblrs
7:00 P.H, . BOlrd/CODIlsslon budget requests
7:30 P.H, . Human Sorvlces Agencies funding and
Use of COBO Public Service Funds
8:10 P.H. . RovlN zoning .Itters
9:15 P,H. . Council agenda. Council tl.e, Council cODllttee reports
February 3. 1992
6:30 P,H, .
Februlry 4, 1992
6:30 . 7:30 P.H.
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City Council Work Session. Council Chlmbers
Discuss FY93.95 Flnlnclll Plan
7:30 P.H. . Regullr Council Heetlng . Council Chl.bers
TuesdlY
February 10, 1992 Mondo
5:30 . 6:45 P.H. City Council Work Session. Council Cha.bers
Agenda pondlng
Februlry II, 1992 Tuesday
7:30 P.H. . Rogullr Council Hoetlng . Council Cha.bers
(Rescheduled from February IB, 1992)
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February 17, 1992
PRESIDEHTS' DAY I~LI~Y . CITY OffiCES CLOSED
HO CITY COUHCIL WORK SESSION
Mond.y
February 18, 1992 Tue$dlY
NO REGULAR CITY COUHCIL HEETING
PENOING LIST
Appointments to Airport Commission. Airport Zoning BOlrd of Adjustment.
Broadband Telocommunlcltlons CommisSion, Committee on Community Needs,
Historic Preservltion Commission. Civil Sorvlco Commission, Hayor's Youth
Employment Board, Planning Ind Zoning Commission and Anlmll Control
Advisory BOlrd . Harch 3, 1992
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