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IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL
AGENDA
REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF FEBRUARY 11, 1992
7:30 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CIVIC CENTER
410 EAST WASHINGTON
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ITEM NO.2.
CALL TO ORDER.
ROLL CALL.
STATE OF THE CITY MESSAGE
MAYOR'S PROCLAMATIONS.
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AGENDA
IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. FEBRUARY 11. 1992
7:30 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
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II. fino Atllnd F~ Olya. FlbtullY 281lvough MAlch 8. lDe2.
b. 1'1010111011I1 Socii' WOIk Monlh . Milch 1992.
ITEM NO.3.
CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED
OR AMENDED.
I. Minulla 01 Boarda and Commllllona.
111 Board 01 UbtllY TlUllo.. moollng 01 Jlnu.ry 23.
1992.
121 BOlld 01 Adjullmonl moo ling 01 J.nuIIY 8. 1992.
b. Pllmll MOllona .. Rocommondod by lho Clly Clllk.
11I Consldll 0 mOllon .pptovlng . Clm "e. BOOI Pllmll
lOt Hy.V.. Foodl SIOI...lnc. dba Dluglown I'. 821
Hollywood Blvd. IRonewoll
121 Consldol I mollon ,pplovlng I CIOII "E" UquOt
L1conlo 101 Hy'Voo Fooda SIOI.., lno. db. Dluglown
11, 521 Hollywood Blvd. IRonlw.1I
c. S.lIlng Public H.lllngl.
III Conlld.r . mOllon aOlllng . publiC hOlllng on Milch
17. 1992, on thl Clly 01 low. Clly'a FY93 low.
Dop.llmonl 01 TranlpolI.llon SI.II Tranlll Alllal.nco
granl.ppllcollona, Ind ,ulhorlzlng Iho Clly Clllk 10
publllh nOllco olllld hOlllng.
Commonl: In Fobluory. JCCOa will bo complollng
low. Clly Tlonsll'a FY93 SIOIO Tlonsll Alllllonl glonl
oppllcallon. Thll appllcallon will conlaln FY93 SIOIO
Transll Asslslanco and FTA Sacllon 9 prolacls. A
public hoorlng on Iho application ISloqulrod by SlalO
law. wllh nOllco ollho hoarlng publlshod 0110011 30
day. In advanco. Tho granl appllcallon will bo avail.
ablo 'or public rovlaw prior 10 lha hoarlng.
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10WI Clly Clly cOUIlCa
Ragulll cOUIlCa MaOIIng
Fobtuory II, 1992
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ITEM ND. 4.
END OF CONSENT CALENDAR
PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS.
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I. ConsIdOI lOlling a public holrlng 101 March 3. 1992. on In
OIdlnanco vaclllng POtllonl 01 Clpllol. BlOOfIIlnglon, Ind
DavonpOllllloOII.
Commonl: Tho Unlvorslly 01 Iowa ptOPOlO1 vacallng IholO
1111111 10 onablo Illlblllhmonl 01 I pedoslllan moll In lho
vlclnlly ollho ptopolod CoIlogo 01 Buslnoll building. Sub)ocl
10 condlllonl, lho III" rocommondl yacltlon ollho ptopolod
IlroOII. Tho PlaMlng .nd Zoning Commllslon will consldOl
Ihll .ppllc.llon 11111 Fobtuary 6. 1992, moollng. In. 101111
dllod FobtuolY 4, 1992.lho .ppllcanl hol roquOllod o_pedil'
od consldorallO:l Ollhll proposal.
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Public hoarlng on I rOlolulfon Idopllng Iha Noar SOUlhlldo
NolghbOlhood ROdovolopmonl Plan which Includ.. ptopeny
localod wllhln an arOI boundod by Burllnglon Slrool on Iho
nOllh, Ollban Slrool on Iho 011I, 10wllnlorllalO Railway main
IIno and Dos Moines Slrool rlghl.ol'way on lho loulh, and
Madison SUOOI on Ihl WOII.
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Commonl: AllIS moollng 01 JonuolY 9, 1992. lho PlaMlng
ond Zoning Commission rocommondod, by I 8.0 VOIO,
odopllon ollho Noal Soulhsldo Nolghborhood Rodovolopmonl
Plan. Thla hurlnp has boon conllnuod Irom Iho Council',
Fobruary 4, 1992, mooting. CommonlS rogardlng Iho plan
ware rocolvod by Iha Council II lis Fabruary 4, 1992, publlo
hoarlng on lhl.llom.
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Ulr')'Jgh UI. Il"ffiS UU! Wi! t.'ln:~J )to)lll. 13\1 nlSht m MffiS ')1 r~vlSIons
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pUbl< m3,j~ 3t UI+last pUbll': hwmq TM 11l~1 1~31.jl hu!,.jf\o:
pr.:sorvauon and 3n an<~nUv~ t.um Into 1M (8.~ 3n,j L~v f'R/.I :':'n~ to
,nNur3g, UI, 3';!3PUVy r.,us., 01 slru<tul....S.Nlll(h 31" I1sl.;.13$
llgnlU<anl m thy nm S')UUlSl,Jo? fv-;!oi'J>?l.:'pmo?nl pl3n TM s+o:(<M h3S
to do '1I'I1h d~lgn prOV1!NnS providing 3 wn lOOl ioil.W<k ')Ii
~urllngto)n SU'ntlor Ul(lltrst sto)lY Ijf 3ny (o)nsltu<t!"n 31ljng
6lJrllngtr;n Stln UI., (6.5 :Oll't TII" Ultrd r-illt;s to balcOllloiS Ula!
wl';(Inl" can to; no ':Ivs'!r Ul3n lIv~ Int to Ul" SId'! ICllln~ TMs; t\~
IlIlms ar\- r+qulr~m~nU and notIM~nUV~S Th~ M:-:t Itoim r~13trfS t,j
J~fl!lly In rv.p')n~ to dmlOf")rS .:ommtn~ Of prOf'('rly OW:iC'r'S
eo;.mm~nlS about di'nslty In UI~ M3r SOUUIW.lO and also IS conSlSt.:nt
WlUl Ul~ goal (If lh\t plan TIl3t ch3ng(l '....ould allow hlgh>?r d~nllty up
to 9~ Units ~r am and 103 Unit.; F~.r am lllh 961';'f onlt 1~<1r~m
Jp3Itm~l\t.s, 11)3 lor o!lftct(on~y apt S TillS IS also In Ul~ m(ltntlv~
plogram TM doillSlty NlIUSo:S III W111<:1lll ~lU!ij ro:qulr~ 12 p'lllllS III
')Id{.r to go to Ulat hlghH do?nsllY Th~ 12 F"lnl$ slgnUY UlH 3 €1~3toir
numbo:r 01 ar:ioi:iltlo:$ MVo(I II) t-. provlr!o:-lllo)rn a bOIMllt rn~nu TM
13Sllltim Ulvn ~ooirt.'llllS to p3f~m~ 3nd 1$ 3 el13ng~ In 1M pall:ms
laclllly Imp3<tl.. ordln3M. Asaln. In r.;lp<,n;.; tI.>.) put'lte comm.,nl
3nd ....'IIallh. cllang. '..."'uld 3I1v';/ Illhalll 3 dYV~lvrohr MSh...110 pUI
me,l; Ulan 51)~ r0:.1ulro)<\ prl:llIg ,jn SI!", lMy ....'(Iul,j hav" Uloi
n",:ot.!!lIY tI.> (j'j Ul3l TMy Wo)Ul,j 1150 t", 1(01011;:".1. MWoi\'ltl 1.<) pay
1M cIly ~,O~ lnll;1J of 11))':'" III ~lI11llpW Ii!t\ $I) 1ll...."-1I':",,, 'My
\l,\)ul,j t-. pr,WI,jmB Sf,J';"; an,J 1>3Ylllg lor Uloim al).:, ThiS IS. 3gam at
Ul~ su~g~$tIOl1 or OM 01 lh~ fff.'pl~ \-tho:> c?mm...nl",j 10 Ult' publiC
hNfln~ ThoS'; 31(' Ult' only cMng':; Ul3l Jr<' 10 lM 'lrdm3nw bOIfvr('
i'vu to) J3t~ and lh,;.... 3,.. ,Ubl.;.:t, v/l"Olght, p II
Lmr'n/ And y';.u I.:Nmm;.ni\ all ,)1 lhe..;;. oi~:':;,p lor tM hl,INI( Poi\WI3tl,)l\
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In lp.rms .;.1 '41.illl~r II \o.\'\lI,j WIHlly t~ \1;...01
LltSvn! /I I\"\> WJntll-d I.: IJI:~ 1lI31 0\11 vI th~ Otdln3n(~ II '",:'ul'J l"i Mmh }
l\lst by 3 lO':>(JOI tJ:> .joj!yl+ UUI 31 that 11m.
Frankllnl YH YvU (,MJ
L1rwnl O~3Y T1lolnl: you, I:mn
f'llI 5r.)\o,'I1/ I of*r 3t.; lo~ (llY Tlr.;, 3utt.'lOIJtJv.; iN V".; (~nt,:r 31 ~ I oj $
(1lnton SUM I HllIU!l a IIlU.; (on<~rll.)ooJ Ul~t III YO\lr pllln you hllv.,
I~tt O\lt any U(llIly 01 3uromollv.; ~r'/I':~ I !Junl: !J1IS IS 3 V":IY
unp.:>rWnt nrioj lor d I 10\0.'3 (Ity Thm Jr;. 3 lot vI ~'pl+ \0011.) h3\'.
tMlr <3rS I\'<:>rl:(-J (In 3S th~~' 310j d I !Mpplng 3nd 310j \,'Vtl:ln~ d I
This jS a n*J I Willi you ~'\lld conlld+r lvlllns thl> too; In your plJn
TMn!: NU
Lllwn/l:3fln. any f.li:lSUng UlioS 'ioIMJ tv 311-:>10.'''-'110 suy
FrankUn! y~s Any ofi:lSung USol3 W,jU!d SLIY TholY ....\jUl,j lII' non((,nl,;,rmlng
It UI'IY ....':>uld l"i do!SINYoi\ll(l 100.t 01 UI'T:! ~}I"'ls~j va1uo1. Ui"'Y r,ould
Mt b+ ro!pl!(~ unl~s Ih.;y wvr+ Ilst~j as ~llOtlt~j US';) Right nw,
Ur; OUl!;t.Ur; S!I)I; IS (.:.nsldm.j an auto an.j tml: orl.;ntoid u* and
It Is not IIsto.\oj In thy (8'5 :OM
Lars-in/ That Is tht sblt's opinion Ulalth3t d'Nsn't r,prvs;nt tM hlgh,st an,j
tont US& of thiS prof*rty In thiS :':>M
Franklin! Th3t IS corr~~l
Lmonl Th3nk you
Ambr II:arlll. Imoiant ~j CJII you t..">day but l!:oioVp lorSo1ltllla U1OSot UUIIgs
ask~j y<:>u thy oth\<r day II you had Ul, vwomhlp or m S Cllntvn
Franl:llnl Y;$
,"lObr II ~$I<Xt!:tll~ Ulru our supplc-mvnWI bo;.:.l: J couldn'l find Ulat 01 tho
lowJ Sutv Nnk plop.lty [lid ( nllSs It
Fmkltnl No you didn't Thosli pr<Of*IUlis that m Mlhln U13lmvvnlory 3r..
sights thaI W, prolio<:t.n1 ....\Juld d.:ovvlOp \I"thlnllvw 10 li.n }'vm $-:.
not ,mry slngl.; prof*rty \I"thln that supplvmvnt 1~Il11n that
Inv~n!l)tY-Mt oivoiry slllgl, pr')p.itty In Ill' Il~dr $oulllsld... IS In Illdt
Inv,lntory illS only thOlv ,:<lSlo?d WIlI~h ....', 1,1t t-:-:aus, 01
""'llo:rshlp. >)lOsllng US>) or what",v,r \<,\)uI1 p'xslbly M ro:'d~'v,IOpo:-j
\~thln thy nv;., 5-10 Y0:31S TholO two W~ltl~S m not t\<,\) 1I13t \\'y
dntJClpatotd OCCUrrlng 011
Am!:>r I J ~'*t 1IlliY m happy to hw thaI Thanl: you
(ourm,yl Can \o,'V go back to uus IlIgh,st 3nd t~st US,l thmB \>!lUl
Jutomouvv I am not SUro,llhat I (IUlti' un!l.;.rst.ln1 Ulat
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....'Vuld S-3y In r'l!p',ns(- to Ran.jY'S qUoiSIJ.jfj IS unt ...'.) \o,',.u1,1 n,):
(OnSl,~~r 3n 3Uto and tru~1: crl~nlo:..j U!(o, 3 Ilry :to:,) 'Jfilt!UO& U:JlIS
I3n,j (OnIUmpIlV~ iii:" Ulal 3n apprOr,mly us, lor ",u...r th" CE..\ 0
d l :OM or tho, (omm"'la\ :cn, Whl~h ~"ould ,ltr.-Uy abut 1M d I
ThallI1OS(I \:Inds 01 UM, ~lUloUeh IMy ha'ly SI.\y",j In d I O'JVf limy
)S a nonconlormlng U!(>S lor 1M largo! pm, M~t olthiim MVii n\O'l(o
!,o) a poIrlphoil31lt.XallrJl\ WlIm yvu CJn pl')'lld~ OI.:r(o p3fl:mg T11oir~ IS
mor~ 13n(\ mllablii lor thall:lnd 01 land consumpUv(> US... Th...lan,j
In th~ d l IS v+ry t'>~OIIV+ ao.j so II 1')U put a US'! 00 II ....1\I~h t.31:'fS
up a lol 01 spac/! IllS nol u\(o mosl ~lll"(onl u:.) of Ulallalld So IllS
Ml dofoim.;d lv ~ tho, hlgMsl and bo;Sl us.; 01 thalland Is thaI
compltcat~j ,nough
110'1/10 ....Mh (vmm,rctal :(,n,,) do wv all<)w thiS 1:lOd 01 us(- In UlY
c'jmmuntty commmlal. NmmiircI31Int.mSlv<-. hlgh\ll3Y comm(of':!al
Ambr 11n Uut d...ltnlUon 01 UI., h\gh~t and tooist us'!. IS tMr(o any ....o,:tghl
&IV~n to th~ (onv"nl.,nc" !,o) tM bUYing pUblt(
Franl:ltnl Yu TM (onv+nll"nN to tho) buyln~ pUblic TM marl:H3b1l1ty 01
thalland lor that p;llu(ular lund 01 us" all (om~ In lo PllY Ithlnl:
prObably onii way to 1001: 3lll IS II that land was lr* and elm rlghl
now Illt WH~ Y3(ant Could yc.u g~t th~ hlghi'lt pm\' lor lhalland
lor an auto and truck ofl-:nloid USo1 (,r (ould you gH UI\' hlgMst pm\'
for an olhcil. (ommmlal or ro1tall us\' ,",nd tho: (.)nvo?nlo?nco? to tM
~ustom~r (.)1001; Into play In UH dYllallll';S 01 tho? marl:01t III Ullt
r~ard. YiiS.llIS a lactor
Ambr litiS OM that I WIll ~onsld\'r wMn It comiiS um\' to \'olo1
Courtn\'yl AnYOM hm (omm~nts on any ()f th(lS(' phS Wo1 WISh to
(ontinuo th.Sii again
Nov III thm I, nol:<<lY lro tM pu~IIC, I wvuld lI!:ol to commoinl PRM :0:.11.
~.'U !laVO a 11M thal says aCMS to mdlvldual dW~ll1l1g UI\lIS shall w
lrom o1nclWrj lobbli'l of (orrldorS And th(on It says OZOi:O:o1pt al grad'"
1,'1.:1 wMrozo '1y.t;,rtor d'JOrs ,Mil bo: poirnUll(ooJ I wUI'] Ill:.: to ditl;,~
U\;, ",:\.:o;opuon I U\lnl: ",i~flOr ,jrNrways ')1\ thiS 1:II\,j of bulldll\g
3ro1l\'( gomg to bo1 to1rnbly aIIHCU"'~ alld WIll M v~ry bad lI\ t~rm' 01
o1Mrgy con~,:'rvatlOn I UIII\I: Vb) n,,'vd to lIllnl: of vn'i[~y ",llIm'l\ey
Fralll:\1ll1 rlaoml and I Spokolthl; alt,,/Ilwn awut Ull~ and ,11\(,.. th..n I ha.....
~pol:"'n WIth f.<:\t, Mll:lo whO dralt.;.:! tillS Tho: ratiOllalit t..;.l\lI\d 1M
'A'as I,) alloW Ulv potitnlJ31lor toV.'ll!lOUSo;oS m UlIS ~ft'3 ThaI 'A'aS U\o;o
[ozoas')1I t.itl\ln.11t IllS a matM of '....MtMr yrjU want to poirlllllthat
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~IM o)f di'V-:I'jf,mi'nlln Ihl' PP./.l :'Jn~ N not nlat II a I,'....'-:r I';JI~ illS not
3 high ns" tn,:. or a d~voll'Jpmolnt typl(JlIj' 3 tJl<.'n (if J hlgtaH mol
lYI* or dml';'fml'nl II \>oI,)uld W t....~ ~"'ry bUildings
.:ut>t,yI Mayt,,; UI;.langua&o; ,,,uM ,1.)1.; UI31 Inil.;ad v/ th;. W3y Ill' wr<l...j
:0 II ....'Vnl /l,l'N tho; nio-a311V.; 3//;';1.$ on lh.; m,w d..n;.;
Frankllnl W~ NIJld N o::<pItOI In th3111lo~' o::,:t(.nor d1(lrl<.'3}'> .....ould t~, In
tM ca!~ or W"'ll hOUlo:S It tlut IS W!lal tho! counw ....~Jul,j 1I1:~
Ilov / I \>oI,)ul,j Ilk'! thal
(OUrfMY I I am n.;,t <1Ull~ suri' '...'l13t th~ obl\>.;Uons m h'!r~
NovI TM consumpuon 01 i'Mrgy Incr~31~S ~4US~ or ~n outsldi' ,jMr You
H(, going lc IIn,j that th~ 3pts I'J\o,';.st 1,;Vi'13r., qOln~ to boJ dralty
Only thy on~ on Uly uppowr l,volls ary gOing to hav,; thiS Inlld.
d')om~'3Y Inst,,3d 01 outsldi' doorway J ,jWt I:ov'....llow lM!i' things
ar~ going to boto mangM WhHMr thl'i' m gOing to hal,'o: a polak
mH+r or €'l\'<trtc m€'tolr lor '!ach apt or not M th~r€' is a c.,rtaln
wlu€' chang" 'rom on€' apt to aMU1H wII~n UlIS IS don':' TMr,:, IS aho
an €'^'"rlor cllang~ In app.:.aranco? You \>1111 hav., moro? \1vors
I.3rsvn/ DId st.J1t and !laoml agr~ to dlsagr~ on UlIS
Courtney / I am not suro how thiS Is any dlltmnt 'rom any otho:r apt W!lH'J
i'ou 11m Sliding 81m door 'or UN !:>OHom ("Vii and Ul, upp.;r Imls
may not hm Ulat
Franklln/ I don't UlIn\: ""~ hm. strong I~hngs oni' "'oay or 3noth,r It you
tal:o? out Ul~ provISion aM ri1ulr~ tllm not ~ ~rmtttM ~:<t~rlor
door5 to units on Ul., ground llOo,r For town houso?s It Will m~3n and
Jp.lrtnHntlJ\Hldlngs you ....'11 hav~ tv hay,) Int~rlor hallway Probably
tn most cas.;! I<.'Mr., som~n~ IS bUilding a mulll story apt bUilding
and Ul\'i' hm a1rNdy mad.; accommodallon In Ul.; lootprlnt 01 UIO
Inl~rtor lor hallways Ulat Ul~y \>oI,)uld conllnuo; that through all olthi'
lloors lust Neaus, Uli'Y alri'ady hav~ to do It Th, rmon thaI th,
.;:~nor passag.; ways m put on now IS to say,} bUlldlllg mal,nals,
spac.; That NU don't llm to llguro Ulat hallway Ul~n Into your
~al~ulatlN1S 01 Ul, 51:, 01 your units So. J gum I am not sur~ Ulat It
IS gOing to maR, a lot 01 'JIlto:>r..nc.. onl' way or anoth,r But It you do
1.)1:, It out and don't pUlm a provIsion lor townhoum Ul.;n you wvn't
w abl!) to havQ townlloUSQS
!lov/ I ~uld put In a prol'ISlon lor town hous.!ScCourtMY I I am tN I.;avmg It lust III:~ It IS Ev..ry slllgl~ family r..5Id..n\.. III
town has an outSI\!O door I would lust as soon I..av..lt up to th,}
do?slgners and ,jo?volop.m to ~r"'Jt... tl1.m bUlldmgs I thml: w.. m
t""mg lo?slmllvot onough down UI~ro ....'thout putllng )llynMo:>
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J.....Jy 311lUoi t'll 01 orlglnalllY In loirmH l1unt thv d;,'/oilvp.ir can
hgur... In qWIU~'ns at'jul ':n...rgy lilll':loJon<y aM 111<'\\1 tl/lds (,( Ullli6S
t.:.;. ~ut mayt..; J lUll diln l ul"lmtJnd ItlUlIy In any (3:';, ''':i/ dGo'1
113'1(010 d~ldi' on Ulat until /.!3r(h J light' You gl'Ji' moJo Ulr.;(o \,\~'l:s I
':3n un1,irjWn-:llult about 3n>.thl:li LH m... thlnl: ab<lul Ul3! alltll~.
:/')'111 ''''lUld lit... 10, ono) Inor... (('lIl1n~:il, 0-3n...1 LJillJrn"l m...nU'm..J U1'i
la.;llllH 1111(lught ....'0) shoul.J hav(l bUrlo1oJ uUIIUoJos In Um :.,n... An',j I
Mv. Sln~~ loun1 oUllllallllls hH no p13C>!' In Ul~ :>)/lIng whnanc.!
quo~'unqucM It wlongsln 1M UllIIU(o$ ordlnanc(' And ....\' hm a
UUIIUoii crdrnancoi l\)dly In ni+J 01 Upd310i Irs b;oyn (In !hi' IIsll(,r a
!c.ng Urni' and ""'111 Nunitl's <c,ncumnio) ...." (an o1':'v... It up Ul... list
Lmw To g+t my vot.;, Wh4lal(l you &"tng to rM'I(o Itahi'3d 0('
110'//1 d.,n'l tno,... lho!> lut IS 'I...IY long TIlt IISlts (oirlJlnly 'n\!llalong It'S
wJY. butlll...r,,o'$ 10t.$oll1l1ngi lorlt
Lars.in/ls Ulat much 0' a prol+<:t lor you, City AllornorY?
G.;.ntryl Wtlllt WIll roiqulri' <oordtnaUon 01 pUblic ....WkS. Rlet F'jSj(l, Jim
5r3~ht.lI, 3M my o/fl<.;. It "",UIJt, a IItU(l ~II ", ....I,;rl:. piUs planning
~13nmng \\0'11 n~ to bY Invi>lv"j
ur~nl W~ might not g~t to lll+ IX'lnt Wllm ....., hav., to 110 a 10101 ""'-\rt It
mIght lUst sImply Iii Clndlng out Irl,m pUblic ....wts 'iIll~r", !h<<y Ullnt
! bUrI+<:l utHlty or.j!nanc~ Is to?JStblo? or \o.wtabli'
I/O'll W+lI111al's nolI Ul+ only llllng to l11ll1t abouI t>oxauso;. Ult' wholo:'
ordmanct n*ds to t-i ro:'vls+<:l b<..;aulo? I' wi-'r, ge'lng to do anyUlmg
Mlll burtoo UUIIU~ wo?ll d~ It along ....,111 my Improvi-m+nts 01 tho?
str(~tsca~. and tI that d~vt'lopm(ont hap~ns W want 10 hav!.' an
ordlnaney m placo:' so tll31....'o:l do as ....'V dmlop tho:' Slrntscaj)(l
l!or\\w/l'.j Ut" to 1M Into 111311 m"an It Wio'r" gOing 10 loot Into m3SSlv~,
Lo<)t at Illv nUrn~r Of r(lSolUUons W~'rv 1OOl:log at If domg a maSSIVv
tJv'Ii-lopmi-nt down lhm, II s*ms to moi w+ shc.uld 131:+ a 100)1: at tho?
toj!.}! InlraSlr1J,:lurv
Larwnl J'd w w'lIIra~ tv as,: th+ rwr,l~ tl) ~+t lOgoilhvr In pub!l,: worl:s an\1
1'841 end t~U u, how bIg 0 prol~t Ilm would bo ond .....!lollt WOUld
~urnp bvhlnd It
Courtn+y /It', Viol Y Sl.lll tnl.;nilv.
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CourtM}'!Ilow c-Id IS 1M NdlnlO>:v ~ [;M It .j3t~ N.:t m~n}' Y".lrs?
O'lnlly I.A\'H.U~S
Cc,urln'i'1 'II.. -Mnl rvdo II \.11..r. \,0,; JIJ Uly lt~n<llliY'
!j"ntrYIIn lIm~ 10) t>Y 1.IU';,,03t...1
COUrIMi'1 I eu~~s J pm gOllo)m~ proN\~ms t~JUSv I knv'...lhv gv.ll c/lhl~ I,
not gOing to bUlY 311 of Ihi' 'liIfofS but alS{lall ollhi' luncMn t.):.:ofS 3n,j
tranSfcrmoilS and stuff an'.I....'>!'v" l~n Ihrough 11l3t SU~i....:t on':"
~tor~ In Ul" downIO....'l1 afo!3 TMr.. m 3lgumtnU (In l.jt!l sl,joii and
I dl.:ln't gO) WlIh pUUmg Ih~m und+r b+IO)r" so I:lnd 0/1+3<1S 1M tl) Ih"
point IhJll'rn not m:y abvut SI^'n'1mg UI(o stJlf lIm(o cn tlm
I/o\' I W"lIlhts Ii an oldln3n(. Ulat MV\1S stJll Urn. ....'!l.Ih" ....'.. chang.. UI31
particular It.;m or not
(ourln., II don't r<<all Ulat many tl~ms (omlng up 1I11lhlS .....as brought up
aMut burytng In thiS parU(ulu ar0:-3
LmQn/I'm \\,Ulng to gott a rn~mo on It
Courln+y / Wt hmn't had a bunch of conflicts WlUI Ul+ uUlIly tjrdlnan.:.;
Horw/I poilsonblly don't go along WIth th+ W3Y It IS light now .lny W.ly I
mm I \or'Ould lov+to S<-v It bum..;!
!:ubby I We could mn lust g+t .1 list of wlnt UlvISSU+S 3IY In 1h,1..
CourlMY / Why don't you lust glVt us a . ~'rlnt Couta (oPY Cof Ul, uUllty
ordlnanc. and ......111001: at It
Ambr I Whenmr you'ro (oosldmng som~lhlng 111:(0 thiS of 11IIS megmtud~ I
~alllm3glM want UIt (OSLS afo) 8')1118 ~) to) aM I am WIlling to tJ~~ a
1001: at II I am Mt WIlling to put th'i roist.;.! my <:ar*r on th31 OM
subl&<l. 8ul tho monumointJl (~t Ulat IS gOing t,) W IOvolv'>o:l That
c.y.t WIll N p~sl right OOcl: to the- us.:r I thlnl: IMt thoilv I~ <-MuSh
lnmasi's In UloS, ral"s that \0,'0) m v:''P'ifIi1n~mg right now If you m
tJlI:tng aMut burYlns ,,'myUung MW.YOU ha\'. Ulat old
tnfrastru(tur, up tMr(o Ulall Ullnl: ....'11 SUII W lll;.r.; fifty Y(lJIS Irom
now I don.t wll<-v, Ihat y.)U aril gOing ~) tJll: 1M utlllti' m~) t.uIYlng
otVotlythlng Ul3tls tIl'i!') now
Nov I W~lI ...... actually ro:-~ulr, IInofS to M t'UlIo>d WIt/I ni'W (cnstrucMn So
Ulat anyUltng Ulal \\'111:>0) ~onstru(t~1 n~w \..,lIl~ bUrloXI What I am
lJll:lng aboul now IS Ule sllo:-<.t S(JI^' ThiS \o,'ould not b\> part of Ulo)
cc>sts 01 thoi do)voilo~~r This would t;(o "ti' cost
Ambr / EVoilY ume w... add a noiW loistrlcUon,lust r'Jrnoirntx-r tIlat tIloi CvsU go
up II h3s woin only two Yllar5 smCll W(o tJII:oid aoout Uloi (8.10 am
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ilun lItl'!ralli' IllSt rh~ lip 01 1M I(.;t-Irs i'vU MV" t,) m31O~lm It
((lUlUI?Y II \0,'11 to:. UI') Illst tv a(\mtlll I ha'I,! r.~\'H r.;ad Ull' UUhtM
ordln3nC~ S') It i'(lU want tI) punt Il .;.ut 3n,j put II In Uly r"':t+llor us
~+Y II WI' all hav+ +nvugh plvbl+rMlv r+luV+031y II
t:Ubby / AnolMr IUU+ Ulall tal~<ooj atoJUl a IIIU+ bllla:l !Jrn~ (OOWll{o.j
aoouttM allf;rdabl~ hOUSing lSSU~ nlH I am V~l, glad unt Ul", al';-
SQIM Inc+nUVn to) haV~ JllOl,JJbl~ hOUSing bUllllOlI,:, IS no Hiul3UOll
TMl s(lmo! /lo)usllIg lMr+ bo1311ordabl+ I am t.xe,mlllg IMr+
conco!rnM aooUl UlIS l.;.vl:mg ala lol of 1M smgl+ lamlly MUS')$ lhal
m c(,ncw,ooj tI) multilamUy /lous,;,s thaI m Jllordabl+ r;:.nlS n~hl
now WMt WIll h3plX'n Is ov+r IUM Ulal WIlol\l am d'~i rv.1(oy+l.jP
(ompl+t+lY or 3 IJrg~ r'='ruoo dCol's and no on+ ch':')SYi to uSo! Ultl
In(+IIUV+S lor allordJbI\\ !lousing I 8u~s I am nvl Mlli' SlIl\l ...mal
Ul+ opuons ar+ lor r+gUJ111ng that I mlly '",~'ld 111:+ us lo 1001: al UllS
bo:lor+ \oJt! YOl+ on UlIS IlI!ln nlHIS Ul; big Slumbllng bl':.:k lor 1I1~
lor Ulls wMl,) plan mn Ulough 1111:; Uli' VISion 01 It It IS a
stumbling blod: lor m+
l3r~lI/ J shm WIth r.arln thy (onc+rns abojUl havIIIS ad<'<iUJ~ allordatJl\l
housing. It IS on~ 01 tM tl)ugh~Sl nuts to (IJ(k WhYr.) a (Ily as ours
W!l"r, thm IS so mu~b Nm~llUon Whal con(.;.rns m<, alsolS Ulm
m so many plac~s now In th~ ma Wllvl~ ler OM !V3$;jn or anoUIH
lots IImn't ~n r(oojmlopox1and Ul~i' ~nd up t>vtng lallIi' atlordabl+
t;.:.;auso? th~y ar+ mayt... a IItU~ old~r alld not III UI>! V,-sl 01 (,)ndtMn
Jthln!: thal thiS southSld+ plan woUld ~(:;rt so:,m~ pr~ssur~ on r~nts
downward J Ullnl: Ulat It ~)uld bo? a ~Mflt to aUor.jabl~ lIosmg tn
Ull) (Ommunlly allargv v'o(au~~ Ithlnl: II sllmulatols dmlopm.)nl
SOUUI 0' d land mayboi Ul~ poinm.tH and th.n th.r~ would ~ th~
nppl,; aU~l /.layt..mcr~aslng (Om~IIUOn for r.nl$, low"r1ng thoi"
r~nlS and tMrl?by.lthlnl: It would low~r tM numMr 01 o~'p.:.rtuntu\'S
lor thaI kind 01 atlordabl~ hoUSing tn Ul~ d I am I UlIn\: Ulal mayoo
thaI IS acc~ptJbl~ III Ul~ ovmllalloiCt It might Ilal',; 011 aUQldalM
lIousmg I am glad Wi! hay,; tho? Incl?nUm In hm an,j h./pi' IMy ~nd
up MllIg uwJ I also thllll: that all'!r a y'm ,)r lWO olth+sl! IIlct)lIUY~
p.:lInlS and ev~ryUlIng Ulal they arl? not ~elln StI)M and II wo) WI not
g.lllng whal w. n+oid Oul 01 th. d"y"lopmynllhal Wy .;ao IIn!:"r Wl!h
II a lItU" bit to try to Jchl;"v(I th,; s("laI8~IS tlut Wl? want I,) achl(Ov",
I UlInl: thalls wMn ......... hav;,. to (IM.;oly 1001:
Ambr II ~gr...... th3t the p.:.tnl systvm should Will U1m tI) ...ncoUlJge
allQfdabl... hO\Jslllg I:~ojp In nund what \~OI al~ dOIl.S Tho! P.M.11)
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high rJ!+ :'!II... lUsn t rn...t Io.,th much lavN J! I f(.:all ....'UI all 7
rnoimt~rs 01 III1S (',UMII Th3t IS tM roiw,n that ....~ m roi'.'lIIl1g 1I111
To rM\:o) cJpaltlhty 1m .ji:n:.;o hS /'ou kllOW wtl~n 111(0 Ulllt nurnl-lls
g., dv....'Il. your (Cril$ ar. Qvlng Iv h3VY to go up SIJIUllg 10 ."un,j hk.
3 t.rGI:.n ry.;crd vn Y3(h !;su. bUIIl1311S u,u3l1Y ("lilY, Jo\.,'Il tv
I:Ubby I That 19 Why I am IJlkrng mort aooUl r~ulaUcn '0 '.',oy 3IY mur.(j
that tMr~ IS 5')rn\l attord3t>lllty d t Just t<<aus" of thoi PO'lllt you m
makIng I agr~ lltat It WI 11m posIUV~ rlpploi aUc..;t,s 011 thoi
aUvrdablhty of hOUSing on thoi OUtsl:lI1$ 01 liltS (Ity TMn you m
saymg IIlH 10Woir In(Ornoi houschol.js cant hv~ In thIS ar~J whm you
can wrk.hvo). and shOp TMn you hm transporIJU('1I
H.jrow/ls that an murnpuon \0,'. can mal:..
lHy,.nl I arn not murnlng that n<<oisSHlly It IS g<jlng t., go all tho! ';(),/ to
th+ pommoitor 6.6.; blCocl:s Irom d t I don't moian that It only
appUc.s to CoUlvlllo!, Ie-r InSlJn(oi You ar+ right t don't hl:oi to ~y
ilia! ~ tiS ollly ror young proroisslvnals or SOllloithlng
Arnbr / Ithlnl: Woi hm a IllStory l;.'Iloroi 'n'O! havoi tl;.~) ShinIng "hlmpl"S
Ca~ILlI HoUSing prol~t an.j EWmoinlcal To'o\'o:rs AccompllsMd oi};a.:Uy
WIlal wv m 1J1I:lng alXlut up 1I1t1e- I am murnlng that thoso m low
IncCm~ pNpl~ hving clos~ to L~~ soum of UI~ ar.U"n
~ubbY I I gu~s What I am dC'lng IS I \\~nIIO r"'luvst to 1001: at a hst of
p.'>$slblv opuons to ~lth~r mal:v tho; IlIc.nUvvs morv attracUvv So It IS
mor~ IIk~ly to h3p~n and to 1001: at som~ r~U13!Ory options.
Franklln/Okay. It I could lust Llkio a s~ond and go OVior tM lllcoinUvois Ulat
ar~ In th~r~ ThIS Is compll(atN Thm IS a l<jt or sturr Iloiroi that Woi
aroi trymg to go thru In CB.5 for arrordabl~ hOUSing Which IS
d~scrlbo."o(\ as housllIg Ulat Is In tM a$Slst(..j hoUSing program or any
olllie hoUSIng program that thv city approv"s TM parl:lng
rvqulrvm.nt IS wamd That IS an Incc,nU'I. and do that ty~ 01
r~ldvnUal unit as oppvsvd to a ordinary rlisldvnUal Ulllt That IS lor
ass!)!M hoUSing OM 1:111(\ of altor.jabl~ hOusing
Larsonl That wU(iJ boi a brotal: 01 Mw much In dollm Y.;.u m WII:llig
aoout.
Franl:llnl hOOt) a spa.;~ hot)t) a 'PWII5 What ~ arol "'1I:mg about lor
tM Impact Iw For prOViding p3r1:lng on Sltto 1M IlIlormallon I got
from d.;vvlopvrs It (ost mor. than hOOO a spm $0 It th.;y put In
lvn units and tIloiy arv say on", OOdroc.m Untts alld so tIlt'Y m
rvlaUvli!y small and UlIiY hay. to provldv 10 'pam
Larsonl TMy lust navl? to t."'~p th~oi 10 unIts III th\< program rCofojVoir
Horowl Wl\i:rot IS lit... paltmg for lho)\< UlIlts
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Il.no,,", In 1M pUN" fwlltloli tll~ ~\"l:~1 .IM d~'''~l')p.or ,'I 11I~ bU11.llnS must
plV'/IoJ'i 1(11
Flanl:lln/llo Th3lIS 1M tnNnUV'i TM O\\'li'ir "I Ul'ilWIIIY ':\(':$O'l h1'o''1lo
pro-/ld+ 101 It 101 allold3bl.; housmg
Lm~n/ $(I now all 01 3 su,1d+n lIl~(i m F';':'PI(' !lvlng In (lty h'~U,lng $,)
UI\iY h3V~ to pay \;0 IMnllllO p311: lIl+1I m In Ulv larnp
rran\:lml If UI+Y haw 3 ColI 1 Ullnl: lIlal 'to"! hav+ to g~t Wc\: to 1M whol'!
MU'Jn lIl31lllm m gOing 10 t... pol<jpl'i wM !lV'I In IhlS ar'!J lIl3l.1o
not hm cm Il:now not ~v'Ilytyji' ~!I'IV~S lIlal
I:Ubby I 'NhaL ch3ng<'S
Ft3nl:Unl That IS OM Inc+nllVV In lIl+ C8.~ In ~'P.M It Ii on+ olllloi pUb!"
t~MlIts that y~,u g(.t thr(-v pvmts F-:I unll 3gam 1(11 a Ulllt lIlat IS m
lIl+ aSslst,;.j MUSing program or svm'i olllvl program lIlat IS Jpprov~1
by tM cIty AI!o In lily ~RM :OM, to 8'!t to Ul'ihlgh ,j'lOllty or lIl.; 103
units F-r a'.I+ which IS r.)ughly .;ompmbl'i to \><1131 W'l haV'I Soioin
bUIlt In lilt' P.M. 115 but lor 'ilflCI\'OCY ap3rlm\'oU Which m\'30!
lvw+r f"lVpl+ lIlan a 2.3 WdroolO unit WhiCh IS wMt ....'+ arv ~mg
built now $(Ill you do oilltCloioct<'S you can g;t UI') high d~Mlty,
Etltcl+ncl" ao,j I ~.,jrovrn ur.tts m wh3L 'i.'io'V+ Id+nUIt~ In Ulio
compr+hfnslv+ hOUSing allordat>lllty strat'iY as lIl+ tYF" ell hoUSing
Unit Wit nh-"1 to provld+ aHordabl+ units Now lIlat's not n~o!s~r1ly
viory lOW In<olO(I or n~m3fllY low IncoO\; polVpl~. but It's mor~
allordabl>} 1 10m affordabl'l Is a g~n~l al ~rlO do}/X'n.jlng on who's
P-lymg wMUl+r It's affordabl~ or not. 1M If you hm Ulat hlgMr
nUlOwr 01 units Wllm you can go}t Ulo} do}nslty WllH.) your cost ~r
unit Is Ivs~~nN 'or Ul~ d~v~lol^'r .lIlv supply d(o(INS':S. as Randy ~S
~Inung out. It should 'i.~rk out Uliojr.U~ally lIlat UIHV Mil boi ,om.;
con!ammint 01 Uli r.nli In lIlOSi palucu13r umts or W1I1IlaV, a
grvawr supply In IvrlOs 01 supply lIlat lIl~ Nnts won't t~ so high and
Ul~'y WIll w morlt afford3t>1~ W~11 havo} to w'jrl: Uut
I:ubbyl But \Wi could also ~nd up W1UI a '~OO/rMnUl apJr(rn~nt \lxI I rni!an
Ulat's
Franl:ltnl It's ~Slblo} but IS IMr,! 3 marl:o}( lor loOO/moolll I bvdroorn
ap3rUMnt.s? Usually 1M 1600/m(lnlh Jri' lor U\tI 2 t..'<JrOo)m
apartmvnts and lIlvY'r, shmd by
C'jurtn+y I It'd wlt,r t>io a btg Wdroom lor '600/01')0111
Y.ubby II gu(oss I Mtld to hm lrom somtl twplG
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I:U~bY/llnvllo! comm+nlS lr.;.m d~\'~IOpo!l$li) t>ill rn", II UloiS+ 10':+nll\'\>1 m
Ht:Jr.llv+ ~ tMm I haVen't I+ally hmd lrom allytw:.:Iy, :'J my
numt.;r5 In Ul+ ph.,oy l,,;"f:, so;> P+uy (~II
L~mn/ I:mn, Ihy <.lUl.t 'lU...UIM I h~.i w~, Jt..\ullhJI Jnd Il.wlJ.r...i lhl;
In tht (liAS. to<.' What u tM UlInklllg that you ,~'Vnt tn~ ',o/llvn you
IJ~I'.Io! thal (,nt t\rJrooml and c.lftm,n(\i'S m m'lr+ Jlf(.rlj~bl+ It
S~lIIS l rn. U1H most p.;.opl'i I knw thal m trYIllS tl) oX,)nOllll:+ Jll'l
thal m In J ~ltJon It) hav, rOllmm)loiS g+13 t....,) l+;lr.jojm all,;! put
3'~ p+opl+ In It Gnd fl3Y I~' than Illh+y ...,~r., r+nlJog In ~tlICl+n~y
by th~m:<,lv~
rfJnklln/ It WJSlI't thal OOt lyjrOolms and ,lfl(I,nel,s m mort alfordabloi
p+r St In l,rms 0' UI+ WAS, II ~I INking al wMr+ Ul+ n,,'oJ II by
tho! (\li.nlt1l.) WIthin tho:-
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!,3rSonl Sh3r+ a S350 aparlrn+nt and th+y dvn'l....'3nl ~ d) thal TMy $.If
....'hat I ~nllS a OM t+.1rNm or an i!lttr.l;n(y ror S 175 Y+I that:5
Whal thtiy want bUlljuSl don'l Sri that llappo:nlll~
Franklin I I don't 5* Illalllapp+nlng ,lthior
13r~nl So I am ....~ndmng I' ....', m +>:trar~iatJng ol:ay lits gl\'+ thiS
In(tinllv+ to bulld all th~+ on+ l>o:o:lrooms and +rllCl+ncl+s Is thH
baioid on your r~llng lhat IS Wh'/rof th~ marl:+llS
Frankllnl That Is Whm ~ m trYing ~ provld+ units ror an Id+nurl~
populauon. subl~t tv thv CHAS lIow thm IS also a populall'jn thallS
looking ror !loUSing thalls not th, subloXl or thv CHA5 Th"
vrttclvnetis and OM OOdrooms ......r+ basoid on our +;'lirltinct) MUlIn
th. Asstst~ Housing Program and othtr programs WhHv ~,,'Oplv m
looklng.vldvrly and dlSJblvd F--'Oplv that WIll nioN Ihvsv p3rIlCU!3r
apartm+nts Il gOo>> back to UI+ WhOl.. noUon that 11 you Incr~asv th+
supply or Units In Ulv ma W'I m groWIng ~ut I don't thlnl: Ulm IS
any vxpoXlatJons that \iN art) gOing 10 grow so v>:poMnllally thallr 1M
~nlJrv n-:ar SQuUllldv d~Vvlo?' Ihat \iN ah' stili gOing to hav~ Iho) vo)ry
lo.....vr vacancy ratv thal 'n'v 113\'v
larson/ Thio lasll\\~ Nmmvnts Ulat J WJnt to mal:" ....'vroi on0)5 that J mad\!
lasl mglll thal f W3ntlo gtl on pUNIC roXord WhlCll was unllRv tM ee..
5 :ontl Wh..rv What do)v€olopmtlnt wo) tlncourago) now IS r"ally g\'lllg to
lJo:llntl What happ.?ns to d t SInC+ It 111M only H('3 Ulat <I t can r€ollly
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g,i I Ull11l; that 'n'v lIa':o? tv t~ Vi'IY wo?lullllH 'n~ ..!I,ll 01 ~n,:o,)ur ago!
UI+ naM ~Inds 01 d+\'o!l,)pm1int 10 that 3r.~a foi-:JUS1i C'I1(ti It 1\
d~"'oflot....:l i'oU m not gomg to tw It d,)...,'Il to h'Mvvlop It 111 Jl1ot1lYl
'n'ay I am not t1llt (')n,~rn~j \-.'\Ull11v lvit c,1 th, N I:>I.xl: ma that
Ii gvmg to N IllCoSUy lvlldMtUI ~JUi.. 1111101: !flat ....'v c3n 1lOi:..r
'...,th things Jnd lfy to ch3ng+ l11mgs 3S thvy go II :.:.ntng and tJO,1nus
PO)ll1ts and th+ Il1c+nUv\'S don't 'n":>rl: 'Ilo? <an mov'~ ....'Ul th~<. aroll::':! a
IItU, bit $I) that '....as on~ (Omlll~lIt And Uli! S':\')lIo:1 Olli! WJS UIJt Ul~
natur~ 01 th~~ h~mn&SIS to tJlI: aNut Ulof qU~UOllS ".... Mv~ 3bo)ut
UIIS plall It IS my pl~'dt'Uon th4t thiS plan Wlllt~ th~ Ullng th3t thiS
council and thiS group 01 slJlt fX'Oplo? ....'11 bo~ m~t proud 01 10-15
y,m Irom now I thll11: Ul3t ~ 1M: at th, IfnS som<iumv 3n,j .....,
miss th.;. 'or(>$l It IS a masslv.;. ul1d!'rt.1l:mg and a ';I:ry pr'~ri'SSlv+
311.1 pr01CUV+ 3cUon by th<i City or Iowa City 10 10.:>1: 3t tho; VII.'IIIY 01
tM ~nUr~ f,+ntral (or+ I think grm f.rof<jlt I,.) st.31t an,:! (>$pox1311y
l:ann Franklin Is d~+rvw Council may not know W1IJt (l)lllo,>qu.;.n<~s
art gOl1g to occur on thiS plan But thiS IS a big st+p trying to (OnUnli<-
IOW3 Clty's Vitality In d t. corll I think It IS gl)lng to bo) tt,m,ndous
and I think W~ hm th+ ability to chang+ things WIth It om Um(o I,.)
mak" surt It WlJrks out WVII W'I m not only gHUng lid 0' a :OM
that I think Was d+strucUVt to nilghoorhe<<ls and did not provld+
dlgnlllM liVing lor fX'Oplt In tht P.M'I~5In s.Jmt Inst.1nc.>> W+ art
also t.1ktng st~ps I,.) prot~Uns d land mdtt should go to City staft for
putUng It togo?Ulo?r and for Stl:vo} AU:lns and th,~ (,st (I! tM
f,ouncUmo?mbm for bvlng WIlling to mal:, a Ng sti'p Ilt<- thIS
CourtMY I Any otho?r (ommo?nts?
l:ubby I Am I ho:arlng that oUI6r Nuncll m')mt~rs don't ....'3nt to so:(t SlJmo:
opUons Nsld~ tnc,nUv,s lor SOlno I:lnd ,.! rvgulauons'
Larsonl No I do
CourtnliY/l'm not r,ally Intms~1 III putUng Sf'\,(lllc r<igulalJons on It al
tillS tim, I WlJUld lll:~ to I~t th~ plan SlJrt to ....WI: and 11I:(> $aMy
says, tinl:ltr WlUllt as Wt: go
Horowl Th, only thing I'd 1I1:~ to do IS I',j III:, t,) (teho I:ar'!n's r~u~t from
tho? dolvelop.!rs W(t r(tally havlt not hot3rd Irom fX'Opl(t Who ar(t
InwMt?d In dOing thiS and until W(t do, I:aro;.n, I am not ....11d about
Jiuttlng tough r.gulations Into UlIS, mor.; than ~/" alrc,ady hav"
Courtn~y / Th, m s<'m~ oth~r Illco?nUv~,s Irom a llnanm) st.3ndpolnt out
Ulm ll:now thm's $Om, Iundlng FoOSSlt'llllJ('s Ulrough Ul,; Iowa
Flllanco? authonty th3t (tnc,)urag,s low(tr IllcorM houslllg and th'~y can
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thO}<- things
[,.)r~)nl You $.)y you'r~ not {oVI:II WIlling to) h3\'(O .:3rm .j,) 31Mlt rMffiO 011
wMt <ould IN don..th~ pM 3nd NIlS 01 It In ~rmj vI r.itno:ti.;.nI?
Courtn..yl W.. (3n 1001: 31 som. options I'm 31l1U. (ollwn..1Ih31 ~..'r..
gojlng to put oumlVi'S IlIto a 00:( hm Wv n<+110 gvttMS~ r+3.jmgs
all oVl:r '""th by Apnl I wlw: th3t mor alOflum drof<S off an111 \\\:
slarl nllpl<l:lll% Ulls plan and ttYlng ~) ad,j UlIngs, ...."tH gomg (I) wrM
up agalnslan p,xtol'nslQn thH ~ mlly d.)n't want (I) hav<-
Kubbyl I WOUld!4Y thatlIytng to ~nsurt $o)lnt' allorthblt hOUllng 113 m310r
lSSUt and In nola d~lJllabOut wMr<< 3 d,:oor shOul1 bo:o It'S a muoh
,jlflmntlml 01 dl5<USslo.n l<:Ir m~ MI, Y<:lu MJ (omm..nl.;d that you
mlghl t.~ tnll:rl:sw.:1
Ambl WI:II. Daml US(..j lI\o\ \\'Or1 1IIlpl(klng And I UlInt ',NW, 10M a prytlY
go>>:1lob 01 thal o'lvr tho? lasl monUI 1111:1: 1I\(> volunury InOo?IIUvp,
program 3S OP!l')i'i<:1 (I) a r~ul3Uon I'd III:o! to) s~ Ulal work Wll dOli I
tno\O' wMt \\~'rt gOing to doj abOullll'vt talk;.:1 (I)~. (oUpl>? 01 p+)plt
WI1~t opinion I mpoxl TMy MViof (OrM oown hm, bUlthiy walo:h,
thi'Y pay althnUon (I) whal ~'r(> dOing TM (on(,;.nsus 01 my
dlS(usslons WIth thitSt P'NPlt IS ~ ri'ally don't I:IIOW wh3l'S going 10
happotn W. can only pro')vldt thIS I:lnd 0)( a gUldi'lI\al "....'r.. tlnl:i'rmg
....,1I\ ngM now, And as lar as I'm (oncornYd, 1'10 $.)tJSllM \~.;n \I
gtts to that! mlly want (I) shy away Irom 3S many r\iul~Mns as I
can Il'S tough tnough (I) build SOllloiUltng In Iowa City
Larsonl I'm sur~ nol placing my vol~ lor It I hav~ a pr~ludlc~ agalnsl
r&\lutrlng It tr ~ can do Il WIth tn.:o:nU'Jois too I'm lust saying \\'v
didn't ri'ally dldn'llool: al dlSf,usslons awut whal ~'ou (ould rt.'qulrl:
and how Il would we-rl: And I'd suggitSl Ulal stall wvuld r.;.:ommvnd
thal agalnslll w.:aus~ tMy didn't prof'o)sv It l'm Wllllng haVing
1:3ftn PUl out a m~mo abOul What tho optiOns aro
I/ov I I:arln, ar/! you WI\Ilng to roconsldoir UIIS, thiS I:Hoin, altlir a you or so
luStlO s~ whal has happotnw or 1m not hap~lIl!<j?
I:ubbyl Woill.lllt pmlis 01 coursoi lilt passois as IS WllI\oullllc...nUVoiS, 01
(ours~ I'd preler (I) 1001: at lI\~s...thlng' at 1I\~ Iront ~nd boXause Ule
City has mad... a (ommllmtnl and Wi! n~'<l (I) do somOll\lng on thistIsSUt ThiS IS OM opporlunlly (I) loo~ altM rang!! or poSSlblllUvs, 1
dNl't I(o(ollll:t Wi/VO dOM that, so I'm asl:lO& Ulal w... do that t....caw
CourlMY I 1 don'tl:now wMr& you're ,,)mIllS up W1UI Ulal, \oJO llavoin't dOM
anyUllng Mr'~ Tn(- 11ICoinUV& syst...m !:anu lust \oJ...ntll\rough, It
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I:Ubby/ll'S on~ opuon 3mong many Md Ulm m In.:(onUV(os I'm nol
knor.klng Ul(o In<>lnUVlts 3t 311 ;'m !aYlng I want 10 look at Ul(o opuons
You <an uy you don't want to look at Ul..m,lln" But I'm .lIking II
Fwpl(o want 10 1001: at Ul.. rang.. ot Or,UOlll Th..n ~y no But I'm
3~klng ror Ulal
UO'l1 011 you hm ~m(oUllng In mln1?
I:Ubby I 110, Ulat's Why 1'11I asKIng lor UIIS, l"i<:.lUS(o I wanl to s'~ UIIS and ('Vol
t>#n told Ultr.eo m opuons bUII.j"n'll:now What Ulty m , and I
W3nt to SM tMm
Horow/l:arin. Ari! Ulm mor(o opuons out Ul,:r, Ulal y.)U know oP Ulal ~.(o
hmn't (0'1"1 Ulought about?
Fr.lnl:ltnl You (an aMys, You <an Hoqulr, a <-:rlaln numbtr ot Units <o:rlaln
numwr of attordablo units or asslS~ !lOusmg units lor 3 prolY<t and
v,V! talk(od about thatln tht) spring abo~t WhHMr that was, wMth,r
that was tht) way you wanto)d to go WIth that. who?lMr It was
r~ulatory or en In(olnUv(o and my undmtandlng ot Ult <oun(\1 was
that tho: ((lnC(onsus was that It ~uld as an In(o:lIUvo?. you didn't want
311 of th(o units (on(~ntr3Wd In OM ar~3. nor did you want to h3V(o
units for ,'lory slngl. prol~l You also s31d th3t you dldn't want to
,n(ourag, tamlll" In this parU(ul3r ar(oa So wo wm 1001:Ing at
allord3bl. Units tor stngl..s or non.tamtll,s so thal was Why It <am, to
you as It di,llf you would like to have us 1001: r(ogul3tory m(03sur(o$
for rliqUlnng that Ul-:ro? l'* 311ordablt) Units. '~ can do Ulat
Horowl How ~uld you do that? Would you r~ulr(o that a <.;.rlaln numbtr or
untts 00 In tht) asstsW housing program?
Fr3nl:llnl YM, and O:-:.1(uy hOw In wrms ot how you \\'Ould do It WIthout
doing it F~r rrol~t. I don't I:now ott Ul-: top ot my hoi3.j You want to
gH $Om(o dls~rslon Ul(of(<'s S(.m.. t3ctors Ulat havy to 1:... brought Into
pl3Y Mro I don't I:now J'd hm to Ulln!: aooullt
Nov I it'S starUng to tool (ompl~>:
Franl:lln/lt's all complox
Horow/8ut that's aboullM only .)tMr opMn you can think ,)t rlghl n~M?
Frankllnl W~II you'v(o (tIther VIIiW It as an IncenUve, or you do It as a
r~ulaUon
Horow/Okay I Ullnl:
Franl:llnl Or you 103'10 II too U\O o~n mar!:.;t
Horow/l UlmY. th(o compli'l\lly ollhi' way you aClually put UlIS rt.gutatory
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Horow/ We only Mve 0 "nile number 01 Oloc~.s 11': not bS If we're working
on a larqo briO
Kuooy/l'd III:, to soy thotl'm getting very lrustrated thet thlt convllrSOllon
IS not gelling an~Yihtre, OOd " you don't went 10 dO SOmGlhln~, JUS!
soy
lorSOn/I'm not
Courtney! Tne Question IS whether we wont Incentives or regula lions
Lorsonl That wosn't the QUOS' .On lor me the Qmtlon wos wnether we wont
to lOOk,
I:ubbyl Whotor. the options tor us to Choose trom?
Courtney! Any Oth,r ISMS on tnm puollc heorlngs?
Courtney! Moved by lorson and seconded by Amomco to mept
correspondence
Discussion.
tfotlon POSSU,
tlorch' we're lOOking ot?
tfoved oy Kuboy ond secOnded by l/oVlck to conltnuo puollc heorlngs
unlllllorch , meellng
Lorsonl Ana thot would be first reodlng thot nIght
Courtney! Veoh, w.'re scheauled tor IlrS! reodlng thOI nlghl olso
We're talking oboutllems E-H
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'lbtUOry 11. leU
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Publlc MarInO on .n OIdo/llnco 10 lmend CNpltl 38, 1M
ZonlnO Ordinanco, by addlnQ Socllon 3&,20,810 IllIblilh IhO
Contl.1 ButInOlI SupllOfl zona ICD,8),
CO/lVlIInl: AI III rntlllnO an J.IIUIIY 9, 1&&2. !hi P\aMItlO
.nd zonlnO commIlslon 'OCO/lVlllndad, by I 8.0 VOII,
'PJlIOY.1 01 amlndmlnll 10 !hi ZonlnO O,dinlncalo IIlIblilh
I Clntl.1 Buslnoll Suppon ICB,8)lona, nu ho.rlnO hIS
btonconlllluOd!rom!hl CMCU" FlbtUlry 4,19&2, milling,
Commonll ..gliding lho plopolld OIdlnlnco worolOCllvod by
Iht CMCU .1111 FobtUlry 4, 1&&2, public holllng on \hi.
110m,
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Public holllng on .n OIdinanco 10 lmend C~..plll 3&, lho
Zoning Ordlnanco, by adding Slcllon 36.16 10 OIl1b1ilh 1110
PI.MOd High DonsllY Muhl.F.mlly RIsldonlll1 zona IPRMI.
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commonl: AI III mOiling on J.nulry 9, 1&92,1110 PI.Mlng
.nd zonlno commllslon ,ocommlndod, by I 8.0 vOll,
applOY.1 01 In .mondmonl 10 lho Zoning Ordlnlnco 10
olllblllh a PI.MOd High DansllY MullI-FlmUy RIsldonll.1
IPRM) lone, ThIs hilling has btan conllnuod Irom lho
Council'. 'abtuory 4, 1992, meallng. commanl,"glldlng
lho ptoPolad OIdlnanca wllO ..calved by lho Council 01111
Fobtuary 4, 1992, public hoarlng on Ihlslllm,
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lI.g"'" Council MAollng
Fobtuory II, 1992
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0, Public holrlng on In OIdinancl 10 Imond Chlplor 38, 1110
Zoning OrdlnAnco, by .monding Socllon 38,88, 011'111001
parking IOqultomonll,
Commonl: AllIS motUng on J.IlUllY 16, 1992,1110 Planning
.nd Zoning Commllslon locommondod, by I 8.0 VOII,
IPptOY" 011110 ptopolld .mlndmonllo rovllllllo 011'111001
parking roqulromonlllOl UIlIIn lho CB'8 .nd PAM 10IlI..
ThI. ho.rlng hal boon conllnuod from 1110 Council'. FlbtUlty
4, 1992, moollng, Commonll roglrdlng 1110 ptoposod
OIdinonco woro rocolvod by lho Council 01111 FobtUlry 4,
1992, public holrlng on Ihlsllom,
ACllon: j,~. b
I, Public hoarlng on an OIdlnanco Imond/ng Chaplol 32,1,
Tmllon & Rovonuo., by adding Anlclo VI, . parking I.clllly
Impocl 100 OIdlnanco,
Commont: Tho NOli Soulhsldo NolghbOthood Rodlvolopm.nl
Plan ptovldo. 100Iho OIlablllhmanl 01 dlsulCllln which lho
ptlvOlo IOCIOt dlroclly ponlclpolOl In lInanclll suPPOtt lOt
noodad public laclIIllOI, ThI. OId/nanco OIloblllhe. lho Nut
Soulhsldo Dllulcland Iho mochanlsm lOt collocdng I 100 In
1I0u 01 on'lllo parking .p.cal lOt rosldanllol dovolopmonl
wllhln Iha dllUlcl, AI III moal/ng on JanullY 16, 1992, lho
Plonning and Zoning Commllllon IOcommondad consldorallon
ollhll concopl, ThIs hoorlng hos boon conllnuod Irom lho
Council'. Fobluary 4, 1992, moollng, Commonl.,ogordlng
Iho ptopo.ad OIdlnanco woro racolvod by Iho Council .111.
Fobruary 4, 1992, publiC hoarlng on IhI.llam,
AcUon: .bo ;,
g, Publlo hoarlng on on ordlnanca amondlng Iha Zoning Ordl.
nanco by changing Iho usa rogulallon,'rom RM.148 10 PRM
01 approxlmaloly lovon acros ollond localad soulh 01 Courl
Suoal, wosl 01 Maldon Lana, gonorally 0011 01 Capllol SUOOI,
and norlh 01 Iho Iowa InlorSlalO Railway IIna, In an aroo
rolorrod 10 as Iho Noar Soulhlldo,
Commonl: Allis mooUng on January 9, 1992, Iho Planning
and Zoning Commission rocommondod, by a 8.0 VOIO,
approval 0' Iho rozonlng ollho aroa gonorally localod on bOlh
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sid.. 01 UM SUOtl bolwOtn COUll ,nd l'Ionllllluaol.: tho
.r.. boundod bV 1'I0nlill SUOOl on lho nOllh, C.p11ol SIIOOI
on lho WOII, Dubuque SIIO,I on Iho 011I, .nd Wrlghl SUOOI
on lho ,oulh: .nd lho .roolocalod altho nOllhoall COInol 01
Dubuque Ind 1'I0nllu IIrool. Irom High RI.. Mullf.Flmlly
RosldonllallRM'148110 PlaMod High Donslly Mulll,F.mlly
Rosldonll.llPRMI. ThIs halrlng ha. boon conl/nuod from Ihl
Council'. Fobtu.ry 4, 1992, moaling, Commonls rogardlng
lho ptopolad OIdinanco waro rocolvod by lho CO(ItlCIIIIIII
Fobtuory 4, 1992, public hoarlno on IhI.llom,
ACllon: bo 11
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h, Public hoarlng on .n OIdlnanco amondlng Iho Zoning Ordl.
nanco by changing Iho UIO ragulallons Irom CB,2 and CC.210
CB.8 01 oppto.lmalolv olghlacr.. 01 land gonorally localod
nOllh 01 COUll SUOOI, 011I 01 Copltol Suaol, soulh 01
BUllington Suoal, and wosl 01 allball Slroal, and gonarolly
locOIOd 11I1 01 Maldon Lano, .outh 01 Court SllOal, WOII 01
allbart Slrotl and nOtlh 01 l'Ionllu SUOOI, In an oro. rolonad
10 IS lho NOli SOUlhsldo,
Commanl: Tho Planning and Zoning Commission will consldar
IhI. OIdlnanco aliI. mooling on Fobruary 6, 1992,
Aclion: b,,-, h
9d' 35/8
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Consldol an ordlnanca omond/ng Iho Zoning Ordlnanco by
chonglng Iho ula rogulallons 01 on appro.lmalo 20,6 acro
lraCI 01 land localod .0Ulh 01 FOSl81 Road, nonh 01 Tall
Spoodway, wosl 01 Porkvlow Evongal/cal Fraa Church, and
00510' an unnamod auoollrom RS,a 10 OPDH,S, 0 prollmlnary
plannad dovolopmonl housing IPDHI plan 101ldyllwlld Condo.
mlnlums, Iowa Clly, Iowa, IZ'9104 ond S'91111 (Passod and
AdoplOdl
Commonl: AllIS Novombor 21, 1991, mooling, by a VOIO 0'
6.0, tho Planning antI Zoning Commission rocommondod
approval 01 a proposal submlllod by Idyllwlld, Inc, lor a
prollmlnory plannod dovolopmonl plan known as Idyllwlld
Condominiums, a I 04'unll, rosldonlial dovolopmonllocalod on
tho Idyllwlld tracl, Tho Commission's rocommondolion Is
subjocl gonorally 10 submission and approval 0' conslruclion
and logol documonl. prior 10 Council consldoralion 0' Iho plan,
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Tod.IO,lagol documonll hove boon IUbmlllod 101110 Clly ond
mUll bo .pp/ovod by 1110 CIIY AIIOInoy'a Ollleo, COIIII/UCllon
planl .nd drlwlngl hove boon lubmlllod ond Iro bolng
rovlowod by lho Public WOIk. DOPlllmonl. Tho Commllslon'l
rocommond.llon II Conslllonl wllh 1110 allll'a rocommon-
dallon, Common.. rogardlng 1110 ptopoul woro IOcofvod by
Council Ollho J.nuory 7 and J.IlUIIY 21 public hoorlnga on
!hIa 110m, Duo 10 lho o."nl 01 nOllrlud 101l0ra 01 ptOIOlI
Irom nolghbotlng ptoPOlly ownolO, 1111. OIdlnanco will roqulrl
.n O.II.OIdinaIY m'IOIlIY VOIO 01 Council lOt 'PptOY.I,
ACllon: ~11l~JJ f~
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Consider. rOlolullon 'Pp/ovlng lho PtollmlnalY ond llnal L.rgo
Scolo ROIMonll., Dovelopmonl ILSRDI Pl.n 101 Idytlwlld
Condom/nluml, low. Clly. low.,
Commonl: Soo 110m I, obovo.
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chango Iho aoquonco 01 dovolopmonl Irom Phoao " 12000.
20 I 0110 PhIlO 111989,19991 lOI.n .rOl 01 Iowa City known
.s lha OI5larn pOlllon ollho Soulh ArOl,
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.nd Zoning Commission roco:r.mnr.clod, by . VOIO 01 5.0,
.dopllon 01 ComprahonalVo Pl.n 10.1 and m.p amandmonlllo
chango Iho IOquanco 01 dovalopmonllrom PhilO" 10 Phaso
I 101 an .ro. known II Whlsporlng Moadow. Subdivision,
gonarally locllod 10Ulh 01 L.kollda Drlvo, WOIl 01 Bon Alro
Mobllo Homos, nOllh 01 Iho low. City corporalo 11m/IS, .nd
0151 01 Iho canlral pall Ion ollha Soulh Aroa daslgn.lod In Iho
ComprOhonllvo P1.n. Tho Commission'. rocommond.llon Is
conslllanl wllh Ihol 0111011 II 10110nh In lho Docombor &,
1991,11011 raporl.nd lIa allochmonll, Commonls rogardlng
Ihls 110m woro rocolvod by tho Council 01 III Fobruary 4,
1992, public hoarlng on Ihls proposal,
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DISCuSSIon
~:uOOV/LCU night wo lalked aOout a payment lor SldelV~Il,s and I WOndcr~d
whel had l1oD04n4d to Ihol
OtnlrlJ/l SPOI. wllh Ih. Civ.lop.rs Ollorn.y PU.1l0Y41:, and I 11M drolt4d
o 'lerSlon Including IhO agro.mtntlo D~y tor lhe Sld,wall' In lieu 01
Installollon In whiCh em II wOUld nOI creOle 0 cloud or lien on lhe
Il\le and II would De clean The cost per square looltMI PICI1
SChmaoeke prOVided was the some as we opplled to W~lden \~OOd,
12 251rl2 or 19/1Ineol
Lorson/ Ano Ihot's alllhe woy around Ihe development?
Oenln;/llo Ihot's only along Tall SOeedway
Lorson/ Thol wosn'l who I I wonleo I wonted II 011 the way around J don'l
know how Runlelt Dul on, of the most Important orus IS along
OuDuque OM just along FOSler we're only building It to lower our drag
ond I thln~ It Should go olllhe way bOCk Ihere 0150
Horow/ll's nOI my understanding Ihot
(menv speak at once)
LOf'1on/ The church dOesn'1 hove It olllhe Way down 10 Toll
COurlneyl Pon.vlew Evongellcol I've hoa 10 soy l/lOt several limes
GentrlJl They ogreod 10 dr, the FOSler Roed
LOrtonl Jusllo Lauro Or, But Ihey're gOI/1g FOsler ROOd and TOft SpOedwoy
now?
Gsnln;/ KeVin, It's your call,
Honlck! Speaking for Ihe developer Ilhln~ lhere Is some confuSion and
miSUnderstanding here Ano I guess I wont to go Dock I dO Clearly
remember Ronoy bringing thiS os on Item for diSCUSSion And Ilhlnl. I
con really respOnd 10 lhot bulln 0 sonse we were lolklng oboullhe
whole deal of nogollollng and tho Whole conCOPI 0', Decouse Iho focus
was so cleorly on the denSity Question IhOllt seemed like wenovor
really gala dellnlllve Ihot we never re~lIy gOI 0 sense 01 whot wo
wonled 10 dO With IhlS Item And I dO remember Slating thet there,
the developer wouldn'l necesSartly De Opposed 10 thiS uno of thing
Bul after speo~lng to Deon HOlliCk and 10 Lindo Gent~, 1100 om
confUSed ODoul whal SidewalkS, whm, when, how, because gOing
bOCk 10 PZ Slo", PZ Comml9ston, and so for neither or tMse bOdies
recommenoed any furlher Sldowalks then tMse thot we tncorpor~ted
Into the devolopment And I have not, I dO not thln~, ogreed to any
particular plan and cerlolnly not escrow yet It certolnly open lor
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discuSSion Oul oller loll.lnglo LIM~, I'm r.oll~r~ l'trl~r~ 1M sld~l'I'eH
the SIdewall IS tMI ~OM~'S rofErnng to AfW tailing to ~OU. I
thought It wa~ along Tall Speedway on the crooerty VO'J dmrltOI' II
lrom the soulhwesllo Ihe soulheast corlier an~ .......Q II'Ij 10 calculete
the feet In our conversalluon, hut thon I thOught ~oMy 1'1'0' lolling
eDOul Sldevrall:S IMt would In fOCI, Ofl me Improvtmonl~ IMtlhO
developer would provide Again I wasn't clear Of 1M scooe or
limitation of thOse sl~ewalls, so I'm nol
Lorson/ And ,'m not cleer Where the pro.perty lines ore r lust don', Here's
what I want I don't wont the prooert~ owners on the other SIdes of
the roads to get assessed for SIdewalks In lhe nm Mure By tMt I
mean ten or fllteen years Any ROOdS, en~ rO~ds tMI ooullhll
property And I don't ~now where exactly the property lines ore, bul II
you live on the other Side of Foster ROOd, I don't want you to De
messed. They didn't wont the development thm anyway We wenl
ahead and voted It ond I Ihlnl: for gOOd reasons, but I don't want them
to get amssed for 'Idewal~s. By SldewolI:s around Ihe proleClS, I
don't mean, not aroos tMt abut your development I JUS! me on arees
that abut your development along the streets
Honlck/ Okay. Con you be specllle about where you mean then?
Larson/ldon'!, I don't.
Lerson/ Eamtly where you mean, because I om con' used on
Courtney/I'm a little confused Randy by Your comment of reQuIring llle
property owners on the Olher Side 01 the rood to poy for SidewallS
That's not how we normally do It
Larson/Veah they would, IIlhey gOI assessed
Courtney/ No that's not how wo do It You don't omss somcdody on lhe
other Sldo of the slreet for 0 sidewalk 110 you don'l
Lorson/If you put 0 Sidewalk or Toll Speedway and there', only Sidewalk on
ono SIde of rhe road, The preopel'lj owners on both Side of Ihe rood
paId
Courtney/llo
Larson/ That's hOw we did lithe last lime
Courtney/ Where?
Lemon/ We luSI did 11 my first yael' And so you mean 10 loll me tho
Sidewalk on lhelr ilde of the road, they'd 00 the only people
messed?
Kubby/ Urn-hUh
Courlney/lf the sidewalk wen I around lhO Side of your hOuse and counCIl I
wanted to pul one In,Cheever moss lhe rood sure os hec~ wouldn'l
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wont to help pay lor It
lorson/ Well not II he olreOd~ haS one Blltt! there IS only lhe one, tM gu~
Gentf'lJ/ TMt'S rother uniQue for thiS situation pOSSibly onywoy It'S not os
If we hod sidewalkS on one Side of fOilGr ond on OM $Ide of toll so
that 011 those other properttiS os they dmlop differently or os we
Improve our lhe city con flnUh thO sldewolls
Courtney/ Thot's 011 right ThOt'S the prlnclplo tMt I thOught I Mord people
say thOtthey wonted a woy to get out to go to tM sidewall,s to go up
to OubuqueStreet And And thot would would be a lot longer thOn thot
And it's gOing to be up to uS to convince the Church thOt tMy ought to
put one In and then you'vo got another one to pay lor And then you've
got another Glugow property gOing In oerm thero Thero', 0 lot 01
people thot we've got to hOve sidewalks In to get connected uP with
the sIdewalk that goes out In front of the Moyflower
Lorson/If tMt's the case, t don't hOve ony prOblems when they pay It , Just
don't want other people to hOve to get messed And If they're the
only property owner thOt would get messed then I don't core when
this Is done, Alii want Is for the sldewoll:s to be POld for by the
developer,
Horow/ That's not the way I understood I understood hiS discussion ot 0111
thought,
(mony tolk at once)
Gentry/It can't be Taft Speedway because we hOven't seen the grade
Lorson/ ThOt's great The SIdewalkS cn't be put In until we opprove thOt
road
!lorow/ Just 0 l\llle while ago, we were toll:lng about escrow, I thought
(Hany talk at one.!
Larson/ We'd pay the estimated constructon costs now
Gentrey/ Because even II you'd flgured mow on the baSIS of the some
estimates, we couldn't prod them to pay more lottor SO 1\'S the some
omout without the hassle
cvourtney/ currently In the agreement you hOve the sidewall' fropm on
unnamed stroet to 0 property adjuttlng the churclleS property
Gentry/I think Foster Rood
Courtny/ Not on Toll
Gentry/ Foster Rood sidewalk IS undISputed, rlghl?
(mony toll:)
Gentry/Okoy WhOt was put In ofter lost nIght's meel1ng wos, as port
consldorol1on for thO cny's opproval of the LSRD oM the OPOH plans
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referred to wiler In thIS agreement, the d".velopor MS agreed to pay
Clt~, on cmount sulllclent to construct sldewoll.s on Toft Speedwo~
from tho southeast corner 0' the subdiVISIon, whiCh IS tho Old
Id~lIwlld Subdlvl~lon. to thO southwest corner of tM SUbdiviSion It's
actually the dmlopment The cost of such Improvements SMII be
determined by city OM developers engineering Ilrm flitS Consullonts.
Inc Payment of the amount determined Sholl relieve developer of any
future obllgotlonS with respect to the construction of the Sldewoll
Improvements described In thiS paragraph
Courtney! That's the Toft Speedway Side of that development
HCnlC~!ls that C/lr1Stlansen's document. or IS that Pote Uayel:'s document?
Gentry/It's Peto Iloyek's documont after consultation with me thiS morning
and after meeting wllh the counClllasty nIght And you were on the
road
Hanlckl Yes
Gentry! HOw's that sound?
Ilanlck! In theory I can understand what you're tryIng to do It seems to me
given the networl: of sldewol~s within the development WhICh lead to
the southeast corner of Toft Speedway, that's what Randy I thlnl: was
concerned about, hOw people might get from thet down to the perk,
soy Or to Dubuque Streot. But Ihere may be 0 need to provide
sidewalks. There's 0 prOblem of course wllh the grade wlrh Toft
Speedway I con remember very early on you mentioning 0 concern
with tile only other property owner In between whiCh was the church
Butll seems to me to speno money for a sidewalk along that water
way that I don't think would be used
I:ubby! The luture too If thO pennlsula dveloPod ond people ond up needing
to walk from further down the pennlsulo along the development to the
park to Dubuque Street Then that SIdewalk will be more needed for
the future
Honlck! So will the Sidewalk be put In when It IS needed IS that the Ideo
Gentry! yes!
Honlck! And the moeny 15 guaranteed so to speol
Gentry! You won't De amssed or no one will be amssed later whiCh IS 0
very unpopular act You con woU; away from It
Lorson! I om willing to hove the fee SUCh that II ot the time thOt Toft
Speedway IS constructed there stofl recommends ogOlnst sldewoU:s
there that Ihe money De refundaDle If we deCide 10 nol put In 0
Sidewalk I don't hOve 0 prOblem If Sloff really deCIdes we don't need
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Courntey/l ilm illltlle conruse hOw the sl~ewall IS gOln9 to go 01009 Slye
tMt storm WOW retention DilSln
H~nICU I would De 100
Larson/II starr would mommona tMllhore nOI 000 $lai'llol~ lhort.
HOnlcl:fThey recommended Ihol es e motur or lOCI I:aren con proDoDly
corroCllMlllhlnk thO~ ConSidered IMI Ilhln.' the~ were concerned
wllh the'lMt spcce between the $ e corner of the developmenl and
someother connecting area cnd not along tile develooemln It$elf Thill
IS my recollecllon Of It JlnolY neither Slart nor PIZ mode Ihls a
reQuirement
Lersonl Oh, I know Dutl thOught tMt was ror pollllccl reejons
HanlCI:! Ilhlnl; II was becom or the design or lhe developmenl The woy
loh~ considered illS a mew Portion 01 thai southOrn boundory or the
developmonl WilS In rOCI 0 wow realure tMt teh cui do sac In the
s w corner or the development had Pilths {Mlled om arouM thaI
woler 10 Ihat serne comer thO, the people living there would use
Lorsonl That wos never In any or our documents tMt Sold we conSidered
this ond decided thot Sidewalks oron't need olong Tall "
Coumleyl keVin, ore you under pressure 10 neve thiS opproved 10nlght
Henlcl:/1 would certainly lII:e II approved bull Just stote that we ore stili
not opposed loony rmoneDI. reQuests on Sidewalks IIIIIS
determined by P/Z people ESPlcalelly In Itlelf analYSIS tholthOy
think we ought to hay those
Lerson/r don't hove any Objection 10 meklngthls contingent upon stofl
lelllng Or whether Ihose sldevrclks cre recommenaed or not to get Ihe
legol slufl hcndles
Henlckl ThIs one 1001: me by surpruse when I talked 10 lInd~ IhlS aflernood
I never thought that we were conSidering th~t southern Doundary as
lhe Sldewelk need Ilhoughlll was the Tall Speedway beYOnd th~
dmlopmeln because we focused on the conSldere\1ons or the CurCh
In som~ diSCUSSion eerly on TMIIS Why I thOugnllhal we were
conSIdering thel GIving the grade QueS\1on about eSlobllShlng 1I1~1
grode ror Ihe rOOd, I thought thot was Ihe reason 'or the escrow ~s
opposed to some Mure need elong thet water
Franl:llnl 00 you know whOt the puDIIC worl:s(con'l heor) I hOven't a clue
The diSCUSSions lhall recall In 011 or IhlS wos a concern wllh teh
sldewoll:, os KeVIn soys, trom the development to conn~ctlng It with
Terrill Hili Perl: At SUCh \1me thOt TorI Speedway was approved
beCause Ihls IS an 0"9110 Improvemenl The SIdewalk would be
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wos unproved, II would te Improved ond SIW,oll:i \'IouM te Ins lolled
and 01 Ihol pOlnl 1M sldewoH:s y(oudl De 05$Omd OgOlnsl 1M owners
of Ihe properly 01 11141 time on 1M lidO IMllhi $Idel'loll " on
LOrsonl The mil dldn'l soy IMI wo 010 nol gOing 10 nood $ldowoll $ olong
Iwe
Fron~\lnl No We WIll need lhem In 1M lulure aM IheU \,/111 De done-
Lorsonl All along tM soulntm WJMCI'1j 01 1M proper\~ All clong Toll
Speedway, nol lusl In Ihe s e comer
Franklin! TYPical wcy 10 do II In Iht longl'lln would De wilen T oIl Spefllwo~
wet unproved would De sldewcl~:S pul on ellMr Side of Ihe rocd
Larsonl Thol IS wMI I wont ond lhOll' wMI I wonl IhO developer 10 pay
for,
r.UDDyl A shorl lerm wey 10 deel wllh IhlS IS dtOI wllh II In wrl\\en
documents end nOI necesserlly use 1M money lor elonglhe mlMrn
boundal'1j from lhe S w of Ihe s e bul 10 use lhel mOn&~ flOW 10 connect
lhe development wllh TerrIll 11111 ond Ihen when II Decomes \lme lor
Ihe other one'lnstead of kIckIng money for someplece else we kIck It
In for along lhOl soutMrn boundol'1j The city 15 sllll payIng Ihe sam~
emount.
coumteyl Legal nightmare to me ,different owners by lhen..
Genll'lj! paymenl shOuld De 0 cleon poymenl 10 lhe city 10 relieve IhlS
~roperty of any obllgotlon In the future when Teft Speedway IS
Improved whiCh wll1 occur We don't know when 1\ will relive lhlS
proerty owner of eny obligation 10 Ins loll.
Kubby! TMt money, IS thOt earmaWled In lhe genrel fund
Genll'lj! It goes Into lhe general fund 1\ Is not eermorl:ed
KuDbyl So we could chom to lake lhOl moeny end es soon el Ihe
dfevelopmenll done we could choose 10 pulln 0 Sldewolk whOre It IS
opproprlolO 10 connoct lhe d&volOpemln 10 Tern11 11111 pon: so lhal
peole hOve Immedlele access and 0 safe woy lhere
Gentrvl ThollS 0 dlfferenl dectslon
Lorson/ WMI Kevin IS seYlng IS lMl he IS nol reluclenllo prOVide
sldewelks he lusl doesn'l wanl 10 provide e SIdewalk IMI doe,n'
tnood to De lhOro I Ihlnk Koron luSI respondod Ihol stoff says tMI II
does need 10 be Ihere
Honlcl:/If II IS delermlned IhOllhOl sidewalk neoa~ to be Ihere I o;sumne
tMI we ore paying Ihe majOr share of II onywoy I am cerlalnly
reluclanllO, occordlng 10 my colculo\lons, S 1 0-11,000 IMl would go
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Inlo Ihl~ lllly lor somelhlng som, lIm, In Ih, lutur, whiCh Isnt
detennlne~ I wOIJld Do reluctant Ilhlnl: any or ~ou would De
relue tonl to do thO I
LOriOn/ I don't hOvo an~ prOblem wllh languogo Ih,~1 lOy. Iholll thi
Sidewalk IS not pul olong Iho 50ulhern bound41'lJ on Toll SP.old"O~
thot you gal your moeny bac~ ThOt IS 0111 wonl TMIIh41 "mil:
along Toft Speedwoy De paid lor Dy lhe development
HenlM I disagree I don'l thlnl thOl was cloor 10 en yOM
KuDDy/ We lol~ed eDout It 10Sl night
lIonlCI:/ We toll:ed obout the southern DOlmda"J 01 lhe developmenl
lorson/ I was t1o~lng about 0111 the way around II I unoerstOnd Toft
Speedway IS tho only noed thire u
Couln"J/ I wonllo osl: one more lime There will be the need lor sldowol~
along thaI slonnwoter relnetlon baSin
Fronklln! Ves, eventually Wnen Toft Speedway IS Improved we would nove
SideWalkS on Doth Sides
/lov/ Are you sure lhot you wonl Sidewalks on DOlh sides
Fronkllnl ThaI IS how WO do cHy slreels-cHy slondards
Couln"J/ How close Is Ihol Sidewall: end up Delng 10 lhe edg6 01 lhol basin
Fronklln/ The sidewalk will be In lhe public row
Kubbyl When we vole on lhe resollulon wwe vo!e on Ihe language lhot you
rOOd
Gent"Jl Ves.
Courlneyl O~:oy We con vote on thiS and If Ihe developer chOoses nOllO sign
Hlhen we con come boc~ Wllh somelhlng else on tlorCh 3 and storl
over again .. tly underslondlng now IS Ihol we ore 101l:lng Oboullhe
Sidewalk along Ihe soulhern edge 01 the property We ore nottal~lng
oboul onylhlng thaI will connecl over 10 Terrtll tlll1
Frankllnl RighI
Courntey/l om nOI sure whol dll r ernce In money IhOll sir II 1'1011:5 oul
Ihol you don'l wonl to De Involved In IhOI we will come DOC~ and
nogOllote rurther on Ihe t1Areh 3 meo\1ng
Lorsonl Kovln, when I ask you oboul on lhe flrSI meellng, I think you ore
entlrely correct-you SOld we wouldn'l be adverse 10 lal~ln9 obout
lhol ThaI IS somelhlng we can consider dOing Ilhln~ the next limo
II came up Tho next meellng IS when Koren os~ led ond Ilhoughllhot
yo hOd SOld yeah, we would be WillIng 10 do thOl And allhat pOInt, It
wos would you bo willing 10 pay lor It or rOlher would you De Willing
10 enler Into dlsusSlon oboulll I con soe where Ihere IS some
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H~nlC~/ ll)uSl seems to me, CllIzen We. tMt you need ~ Sld~W4H 'rom tM
property to Terrill 11111 ~Iot more than you need one ~n the SOIJlhern
bound~nJ
Coutnry/we will gettMt eventually
L4rson/ That Is notlhe Issue Inlront or us lontghl
H~nlck/ We WOuldn't be messed for thot We could put the money toward
thot right now
lorson/ Cut the people thot dO won the property shoulo be messed
10rtMt
H~nICk/ Veoh, that's the ChurCh They won't use It either
Other Question I hm Is In terms 0' thiS mhrow
Lorson/ Wouldn't be on oschrow
Kubb~1 Would be 0 payment up Iront
HonlCk/ Thot money Is there 0 time penoo on thot. 10m not famIliar welttl
thiS mechonlsrn ,
Gentry/ we hm come up with thIs mechonlsm twice You ore the second or
third lime, There Is no sunshine clouse In It thot we hove plltln so
for.
Honlckl KInd or 0 dOnation, rIght.
Gentry/ I om sorry Sunset. We hove done thiS In one other subolvlSlon ond
there was no closure on It.
Lorsonll view It os another one 01 those things that sometimes Just
developed or negOtiated almost olwoys by P/Z and In this case they
didn't lor one reoson or another Thotls why I brought It UP two
months ago because I didn't understand why they didn't negollote lor
It.
Honlck The only thing I Question IS why we mIght not Incorporate In the
SUbdiVider's agreement 0 commitment to pay lor that up 'rant when
and lilt Is determined needed AS opposed to paying for It now You
may determIne that you wont thot money lor somethIng else
Lorson/ The only reason thOt LIndo sugges t aOlng It os 0 payment uplront
rather thon payment when It IS needed IS the prOblem-
Ilonclk/ When do you realistically expect that money to be used-
Lorsonl Several years
Honlck/lsn't there some ratlonalo for requIring that ~Ind 0' money to be put
In to the 'und now that mayor may not bQ u'Qd ror,QYQr41- wh.n you
have a subdIVider'S ogreemnt Ihet would slOY With the lend IMt
when and If It IS determined thatlt IS needea the aeveloDer will DOU
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IlatllCU Only one properly owner oM It '0\'111 be tile ~u'msor to IIle
developer whICh IS the condO OSSOC tMt YlllllnWIt UI~t oOll9~tlon
Coutn('l}1 Bottom line rational to protecl future counClh from having to go
Dm OM dO ~ sldewol~ ossessment whiCh requires on extr~Odlnory
vote tl II 1$ protested b~ the landowner at tM ttme It hardly ever
pmes tnJlng to put them all In up Iront 01 M'le the money to put
them In
Honlctl The only thIng thot I would suggest IS that to some extent tMt the
slofl gel Involved In terms 01 wllelMr thIS mol:es sense to male thOt
commllment now I wal undOr lhe ImpressIon thaI tMy dldn'l $&0
that os any ~Ind 01 evn nw lerm necessolly lor thaI property
r.uboyl We dO hm plan to at sometime Improve Tort Speedway to Clly
standards whIch means stdewolt.s on eaCh "de illS In our long rongo
plans
Arnor/l:evln, we had a subdIvision that $lorled oul 20 yem ago In 0 cerlOln
port 01 lown Of1glMllolS were sold to lhe buyers 01 a reduce price
because lhey didn't hOve sldewo~s FIrst lime buyer I:new
tMLchOnged honds..Md to hove sldiwolki Iii lhal area lIone of the
eXlsllng owners was oware of whol went on 20 years ago Jrylng to
OVOid
Courtneyl Wny should I expecllMt lhe lost vole we lol:e on lnls thing
wouldn'l come easy.
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rubDy/1t peopl~ woula I ho~ lhl' C11~ clm mg OullheliOI' 1.1,1990
rG$ofullon TI1~1 yo IhulIJ r.<1'ti <1 cOPy 0' IhJI dJVI SJy PMli I ~ Jon
II end gOts on to OmrtDe Ihe Illt/mnl thol Vie Mil negotlet~d for the
prtillm 0101 ono.,t IS 1M prICIng Jgr~emtr.l Slolln gth~t no less Ih"n
SO.t ot the Owelllng unllS const/'IJctell on IOI~ WithIn the S'JOIlIVISlon
Sholl De oller.d lor Still lor ot I'ost 90 (h~S et e Ortel' ot or below
the then current FHA loon 11011\ lor the Cl\y 01 IOWa Clly It we vote
on thl. (omp PIon Change, Ihl, ogreemenl lor Perts 2 will no longer
De In eftecl Decme we Mven'l VOlell on the IIMI plet yet 01 Pert 2
So I om reluctontlo vote on 1\ CICOUIO 1\ will null ono vloll WI 0'
V,h&1 w. hod negolloteo tor Ihl. dev,lopment Poeple lut night were
tlOklng 0 little DIt Decoule 01 Inl"HI rOles poOpl' con ~Ind 01 ot/ora
o little more e~penSlve house now Bill In thiS 1\ seys tMt lor et
leest 90 dOys So there IS some fleXibility In tMrti illS not 0
loc~eo In lime Irome It we were to hove 0 vote ot OnolMr lime or
the IIMI plet tor Port 2 could De votell on to opprove the tlO4I plot
ond thon tho next Item on lho ogendo wos lhls (omp Plan cnange, I
coulll sUPPor! thol Dull tee I very uncomlorteble with 1;100 01 DOCk
traCking on thiS,
HOrow/llndo, I woula lIke your Opolnlon aDoutlhot flecoUS9 I hove 10 egree
with ~oren It does seem to De In direct OPPOSition to whal the
orlglnol resolution wos In 1990
Genlr1}/llhlnk os I undeNIOnd It thiS IS 0 practical prODlem tMI wos
presented to the developer I think (hucl: lIullen IS here to oddress
that. And alSo In lerms ot the CHy's Octlon Itself, we rezoned elll
Franz's property, whiCh, In efteCI, through hope tully InltlOtlon ot
onolhir lOp on toe dO~n thm, hos Droughl thot property OdjocentlO
IhlS property In phose, In sequence development WhOI we hove done IS
OClually chonged the Mlure and the eIleet on port 2 at WhisperIng
11eodows I mean II'S 0 very prOCtlcol prOblem It's nOI truly 0 leogol
prOblem It we were 10 conllnue to Impose the oUI ot seQuence
reQulremenl on Whispering lIeodows POr! 2, lhe dl"erence would 00
poylng tor Ihe overSlzlng ond proboDly coulO buyout tho ogmmont
Cheoper Dy Simply gOing olong with Iho old woy 01 dOing things rolher
than the hOUSing agreement
I:Ubbyl but we've alreody ogroed lilt's out or weQuenco development usually
the developer pays ror Ihose costs And we agred lhOl we would poy
ror Ihose costs es pOrl or tlils ogreement. so I don't understond your
orgumonel Thot we we're olreoOy gOing 10 pay Ihose
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COil. In )~a~~nc~ Oo,~ lh~~'r~ vlJI Or i~QIJ~n,~ for WllCIllor
subdlvl,lon Qnlj port or the realon we wer~ 09reel"9 to 40 IMI WOl
for this 50% prICIng So I don't unaml~nO thO advantogo In It,O ShOrt
term for tM developer IS 10 do tl1l$, bullt's 0 OISOdvontoqe lor the
CII~ In terms of modmte priced hou~lng
GentnJI The w~ement for port 2 IS not gOing 10 DO deciSIve
tlullenl ThOre IS no agreement for wt 2
Gentl'lJl Perdon
tlullenl There IS no agreement lor wt 2
~uDDyl Then Why does Ihl' resolution for 1I1e prellmlnory pial 'or wt I and
2
lluIlenl Thotls en epproval for the prellmlMI'lJ plat The egreemonU wm
Drought Into eXIStence In connection wllh flnol plot
t:uDDyl P.lght AM we hOven't voted for the 11031 plot And the final plot. It
It'S slgnlllconlly dlfferentthCn thiS, than there may De some
dISCUSSIon, but
Courtne~/1 would tl'lJ to lead us through thl'
tlullenl What I'd suggest to you IS that the crHerla used to eSlaDllsh
whether or not something Is 'n sequence, ought to De In sequence has
nothing to do with whether or not the preliminary plat Is approved or
propOSed. It seems to me those crlteno ore developed Independently
DY the stoff. Relate to the Infra structure that's In place, adjoined
developments, Intlll development And the approval ot port I
Whispering Meadows has nothing what so ever 10 dO w1th thO fact that
the stott now Delleves 011 ot WhisperIng Neadows IS tn sequence, that
It Is now ready to De developed The Infrastructure's In place We
didn't Dring 011 In place The CHy choose to Dring 1tlnto place
Kubbyl O~ay But the problem Is that we dO hm a loglsllcal problem hm,
that we wnatto live out the agreement that we negOtiated lor port' I
ano part 2, even though I may agree w1th those arguments. that II Ii
Indeed thiS, phOse I or the development If I go along wllh that. the
practical result of that IS that part 2 won'l have thiS 50~ pricing
agreemont. And I can't do that I fell very uncomfortable oOlng thai
Because there's Dean 0 lot of time negotlaltng thiS And that If illS 0
lime frame prOblom The flnol play Irom port 2 was In here IIrst So
this wasn't on ISsue So then we wen I to out 01 seQuence, or to
pulling US Into the Comp Plan Phose I The olhOr arguments ore vol'lJ
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"ullenl well, I don'l believe IMse und ollSsues M'ie an'J pl",o at all In
your deCISion of ....helher 1111S IS In WWnce , thin' lhOt IhC'} ore
totally IMPproprlole
f:ubby/ln the real sense of whal '11111 MPpen and whOl will De OullI, II will
male" dlllerence phllosoPhlcall~, I agree '1111h you, oul whOl wIll
really haPpen '1111I be dlllerent
llullen!I!'S more than PhllOSophlcol,ll'S III@gol
Lmonl Chuck, 1$11 your feeling IhOl becm~ IhlS IS now In sequence
development. that whelher Iwe '110\ any prior orrcngemenl on hOw II
'11111 be developed os on out of ~eQuen~e aevlJpl'mln IS a mule pOlnl
now
Null en! ConSlder4t1UOn we oftered and tMt con5lder ~tlon doosn'rl eXlsl cny
mmore
Lorson! We can't osl: yu to Bve up to a deallreallng you as somethlr,g you
weren't II now you ore
11ullen! We fully Intend to live UP to the agreementtMt wos In ofcl Signed
Lerson! For Port I , the flnel plat being approved I:eren, Ilhlnl: you 510d lest
nIght, IS It staff's posItion lhat II IS really an equity ergumenllhCl
lhe f acl of the maller I' tMtll we are gOIng totreat some 01 I lie
Iracll:S out there as beIng In sequence tehn wo gOllo brlnglhOm all In
sequence, TMI Perl 2 IS relaly IS nollO De lreated as oul 00 sequence
developmeln anymore
Franklin/In lerms of lreatlng It In sequence or out of sequence, yes Butln
100~lng allls resolullon It says. regardless of tetl clly's polley wllh
resPAcllo oul of sequence developmenl certoln thIngs wlllloke place
Ilhln~ Karen haS a pOint lhal thIS IS for Paris I anO Pari 2 II IS lor
lhe preliminary When we look allhe final, we go back 10 lhe
preliminary anO see whel prOviSions were Ihere tlow Iho Ihlnglhel
slanos oul here IS lhellhe omloper agreeo 10 Ihe less IMn So~ for
lhe prelimInary for Pari I ano Pari 2 For Part 1 also because It was
oul of sequence lhe city agreed to rernlnburse the developer for lhe
costs of developmentlhat normally Ihey would have to pay lor
becouse II wos ot of sequence So when we ~r brInging II InlO
Sequence II moans lhal W9 go bOCk 10 lhO salnford of proctlco of IhO
clly pays for overSIC:e ana lhe developer pays for the standard suze
But all of these olerh IhlgS pOints 1,2,3,M IncluOlng I heprovslon for
no less than SO:C of Ihe dwellIng unlls seems 10 me 10 5\111 per\aln 10
the Pari 2 prelimInary IM\ lhen whOn we 1001: ollhe Pari 2 final we
can go baCk to lhal prellmloory and say \110\ \hlS wos agreed to and
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Lorsonl And If PorI Z IIMI doe!n'l Mve IMI In \lItre then IJOU nave 10 ,Iort
over
frooWn/ \TMn we go \hru the PorI 2 final we do not reach ogreemenl on
thaI the CO'nmtsSlon doesn't not require tMt or tM council doosn'l
require lhat IMn 1\ IS luSI 0 Perl 2 lIonl.
lmon/If the final cerne to us and I presume 1\ IS QOlng to come to uS
wlthO'Jt Ihot SOX conlllllOns In l\.wMI haPpens If we Ihen SO~ IMt IS
nol wMt Ihe prellmlMnJ sold ThIS IS 0 subslantlal changem you hOve
to go bOc~ Ihru Is IhOl wMt we wouod SI)O
fron~llnl Thel IS lhO Quesllon I would pose to legal
Gentry/ ( con'l hW)
lorson/ Any chOnce Of gellng on answer
Fron~lln/1 don't ~now'lnterms of the In sequence and out 01 UQuence I hOve
to agree with (hUC~ thOt 1\ really IS not relovent I dO nOI believe 1\
IS relovenl Seems to me thOt Ihe cntlcollssue Decomes hOW mUCh
dO we hOve to lolow thIS preltmlMI'IJ ploy resolution ond whelher IS
IS In sequence or out 01 sequence IS
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Gentry/ For ObtaIning lhe low Income proviSion was the out of sequence Gnd
we hOve, by virtue of our owr, actions, mode It In sequence
Lorson/Whether we pm this resolullon oO\en~lng tM comprehenSive olon or
no\. And 0 passage In the resoiutlon doesn't make It In sequence We
mode It by treollng the other properlles thOt way
Gentry/ The resolullon sImply recognIzes whot we hove alreody done
floy/WhOt about the resIdents' other requIrements? Are we gOIng to negate
those also?
Kubby/I meon If they corna In and they don't wont to do thiS and start over,
we've tost all thiS stuff we've wor'Ud really Mrd to obtoln We're not,
to~e that rlsl: of doIng II
Gentry/fIr 11u1len, would you like to deler thiS Indefinitely?
flullen/ Koren, he prollmlnory plet, es I understend thO procOduro was
suppmd 10 heve bion here to protocl Ihe devolopor Bollove tMt or
not It wes supposed 10 gIve us some Idee If we broughllorth 0 flMI
ple\ In substonllel compliance with the prellmlMry, Ihe council
would oppro'le It So we could go out end spend lhe monelJ 10 deSign
lhe development Dosed upon the epproved prellJlllnory We could dO the
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wMt I'm tuggullng 10 ~Oll ond 1II11nl whOl I'm hearing LindO ond even
t:eren sU9getl " lhOl It,,, ground IS now In sequence, Dosed upon 011
lhf crllerlO you ooply Even II we were 10 corne In end i '9n on
agreemenl exec\ly 1tle Iht ogreemGr,1 lhOl we sIgned In perl I, Ihero
wouldn'l be eny oul or sequence costs IMl we would M required 10
bear, Dmd on your own polICIes So In IMI sense, we would be
willing 10 slg" lhe seme agreemenl, excepllhol II sImply wouldr,.l
have cnu consldercllon flOWing Irom Ihe clllJ 10 lhe developer so lhol
lhere would De no reoson for uS 10 live up 10 Ihot section 0' 1M
agreemenl beceuto lhe peMll~ lor nOlllvlng uP to 11 WOS nol 10 gel
lhOU oul 0' UQuence com (-)
Horow/lsn'llhlS conSIdered dllrerenllhen 0 norm,1 oul or sequence cost?
Hullon/I don'l think so, no
Horow/ln lhlS Wl!Cular SllUellon Bul we wenl SO fer 10 sPeclflColly slole
Il on lhe preliminary plots 01 bolh secllon one.porls one oM lwO
~o~ or lhe dwelling unlls conUMled on 1015 or lhe SubdiviSIon ShOll
be sold elc elc IS nol perl or lhe normollnlreslruclure lMl oul or
sequence-
tlullen/ Thol wes our conslderetlOn We egreed 10 do lMl You egreed 10
relmbUrn Ui for lhe oul of sequence devolopmenl cosls lhol we
would hOve 10 heve peld
Lorson/ And 10 approve lhe prellmlocry plol
I:ubby/I om seulng I wenlllln our legal documenlS 10 stili be oul or
sequence developmenl until we bolh live up 101M agreemenl end lhe
end mull being lhellhe clly peys ror Il one way or enolher end we
gellheSe omenllles
tlullen/ Thells where we dlsogree
Kubbyl ThaI Is whell wanl counCIl 10 lhlnk ebOUl HOW we )usllly
changing- In essence whal wo dO If we vole lor thIS IS cMngo \hiS
agreement end hOve a greel r\S1: or nullifying lhlS ror porllwo So I
reolly esk council-
Lerson/ I'm nol sure lhe pessage or non possege 01lhl5 resolullon mekes any
Impocl on whelher we lose onylhlng
Horow/I do
Kubby/ Yes Il dOOS beceuse illS chOngtng Illrom-
Lerson/I undersland lhOl Whall om sayIng IS the resolullon doesn't chenge
It ThO Iccl 01 hOW the lena devetops and how we hOve treeted other
properties IS whallS gOing 10 Chango Il In e court or low
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lorson/Our rmlutlon lull rec09111:e~ 1M f~CI.to SM'l'f 1M faelS M,e
chOMO wllhOullhe le5olutlon
Kubb~/1 am saying I Oon'l wonllO rocoghl:O 1\ unllll can vOIO on It.t Ilnal
pial 01 pari 2
/loY/lInda. VlMI heppen, wllh 1M olher provISions ollne prelim pial The
didlcotlon of wellandS, providing 0 len fool Pedislrton vmmenl' do
011 ollhos' !\l1I aoply
Genlryl ror pari on,
/lovl For pori 2.3.4,fortver
Lorson/ They would be In Ihe now IIMl pial, I presume
Gentryl Those ore not tlea to pMslng
flOyl1 am MYlng 0 111110 trouble unOerSlandlng why lhey art nol
lorsonl Becouse 011 of those Ihlngs are In lUSI SUbparagraph J
Courtney/.Hr SCl:nlllJer.
lOIl'lJ SCnnlll)erl I1NS Consullcnl, I nm c Dad cold so you may nol De Obi,
to heor me too well One of 1M majOr com 1031 are Involved wllh
the future developmenl of wt 2 was 0 extremely deep sanitary
sewer syslem 10 sorve the reit of the SubdlYlSlon ,"lIh the turn of
the eyents IMt has allowed us to proceed Wllh Ihe pIons for the ss,e
tap on fee sewer or what eyer you wanllO collll'lhl& whole mo IS
now to be served form the opposite direction ond '11111 not be over
depth sewer It '11111 not be extremely high cosllnvolYed for the City
or the developer 50 those costs Ort no tonger thm We ore lolklng
oboul trode offs the City he, gIVen Ihe developer and Vice verso ThOt
does not exist
Kubby/ But there stili '1111I be some sewerlng
SChmlt)erl There will be sewer Involved for every 101 out thore Built IS
not on extra high cost that thi City nOS gOing 10 Pick up for us for Ihe
developer II Is not something we ore gelling Iraded bocl: onO forth
for
Horow/ Are you saying Ihen Ihot Ihe hOme' lhol will be developed oullhere
would 011 be conSidered Ihe seme es wncl we were see~lng In IhlS
ogreement or the orellm olel
SChnllljor/ Thelli not oorl 01 wholl WOi Il"IJlng 10 dliCU$i
Horow/ ThOllS whOll wen I 10 hear ThellS whOl1 om Irylng 10 Ilgure oul
Sehnlltlor/I ~now you ere Irylng 10 reOd Ihlngs In bel ween Ihe lines bull
don't know IhOllhel!! whOl we oro Irylng 10 diSCUSS We ere Irylng
10 101 you ~:now 11101 costs Ihe Clly wes gOing 10 partie Ipole In ore nol
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l:ubb~1 ASJreMI~ The~ ere slllllWe
SC/lnlll)er All 1M lend owners IMl ore Involved W"IlIIlI~ le\Yer prOltCl
are gOing to partiCIPate lilt those foll:$ Thm roll" wort not
orlgln~lI~ gOing to 03ftlClp3te wllh IMt conslM\lon 110'1'1 Ihe~ ore
gOIng to Becouse of thO woy the thing IS \'lrltt~n up SO.thIIIiSUt on
the ~ or thO hoUSing, I cont address that beceuse I .....asnt Involved In
any or the Original diSCuSSIons or tMt T~ol was something th3t was
negollated wllh the counCII'1 om II'1Jlng to explaIn wnere Ihm CaSU
ere coming from ond where the~ ore d"oppeortd 10 ond 11'1101 hOve ~ou
Horowl TMt makes a lot 01 sense to me But I stili am not clear on wllethCr
or not I can stIli bt mured thotln both ports Il. 2 the develoOff IS
gOing to be held to the orlglMl prelim plat agreement In allOrdaDle
hOUSIng
r.ubby/. there Is no guerantee That the~ can sa~ they don't want to dO thIS
and lilt IS deemed 0 slgnlllcant cMnge the~ hm to go thru the
process
tlullenl I think It mIght be helpful to counCl1-I am not sure ~ou reall~
understand wMt the agreement saId What the agreement SOlO " yes
thaI we would, as 4 condlllon 10 ~ou relmbursemenl of cerleln
overslzlng costs offer 0 certain ~ of the homes bUIll In the area 01 or
below lhOt FHA oppr41sal standard That Is what the agreement SOld
We were obllgoled os the developer to certify thaI we'd complied
wllh this agreement WhiCh was gOIng to reQuire us to brIng forword
the contracts and deeds shOWing lhat we hOd actually complied wllh
Il. The price for not complying with H was thaI the CHy SImply
would not reimburse those costs
Lorsonl /lot only that bul thaI the plat wouldn't be approved
tlullenl I/o The pial has already been approveothat was allot comglte,
Rondy Vou can't back up and unapprove 0 plot once It haS been
approved for part one
Lorsonl Talking about part two also
tlullenl Part one IS what I am talking about That IS where the agreement"
In place We don't have an~ mlsUndorstandlilg about what we agreed to
do thero and the prlce ror our rallure to live up to our ogreement You
can't tear down the houses. You can't make us sell them ror a certain
price and that Just doesn't work In thO market The houses are up
People bu~ them and there IS no w~y for tho CHy to Impact on that
deCISIon orter It has De en modo But what we Dargalned ror arms
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Incremenlal over,I:lng problem We laId rlne If ~ou repa~ IMI to II'
we wlllltve within thiS If 1'10 cen If we can t 1'10 wt II gIve tM
mOMy Dock to you That 15 essentlelly wh~t the weement S~ld
lmonl Whet YOll are seylng IS thet Since there eren't any of thol& COSU
now that thero'
11ullen! Tnere won't be In the second pert There wes In the first oar! As I
understand It we hOve Deen reImburse for II If we don't rnM the
covenent wo WIll hove to give the money Dack Out In the moRd ocrt
those costs won't exist so hOw could you II doe!n't mal:e eny sense
to tnJ to onforco an ~greementll you don't have eny tools to enforce
It with
Y.ubbyl Butlt1s not that they won't exist et 011 It will be SlgnlflCently
less because there won't be overSl:lng but there wIll stili M'/O to De
sewenng
Itullen! fty pOInt IS that they won't exIst ot ell beceuse thiS IS now In
seQuence Ithlnl: It IS In seQuence whether you vote It In or not It
becomes e legal Question OS for OS I am concerned
Y.ubDy! Wo heve not gollon on answer yet ond I om not wllllng to toke 0 vote
courtney! WhOtln foct has happened os for os the hOuses thot hove been
built out there,
l1ullen! Well, we got 0 slow stort es you know We dIddled oround wllh the
Corps of Engineers longer tMt ony Of us wonted to I con't reolly tell
you In terms of the prices I think we hOve only hOd two or three
closings, But I think they were. to the extent they were one Of the
homes selected to be withIn the 50~, I think they met the crIteria
Gentry! In response to your Quesllons, foctuelly, I don't think there Is ony
Quesllon thotthls INS e narrow legol Question I think Dona's prelim.
opinion thot It Is not legally out Of seQuence ony longer Therefore, no
consideratIon But since there IS enough confUSIon now, I would lust
ossume lOOk ot thiS closely 11 you would permll me to do that ond gIVe
you 0 little cleerer picture Of thts-fectuol vs legal
Lorson! The 11001 pletts not uo for oporoval enywoy It wouldn't be any
problem-
Gentry! I see no prolilem In delorrtng It KOrln, thiS come out of your
deoartmont
Lorson! floyor, move to defor tUrn k
Korrl Heve 0 mollon on the 1100r Amb/ Lorson
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Amor/ I will wllMr~w my mollon
Courlne~1 Tile mollon cn~ second have Deen wllMro\'/n 00 we nove Q new
motion 10 deler
t1ove~ and secon~ed to ~oler lIem I (w~onf rulloyl 10 /larch ~
meetIng
Any dlSCuHlon
Kublly/l apprecIate lhe dellcte and tMn\: lhe council for Ickln9 tM time 10
look at thIS
courtneu' All thOse In I Qvor-
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ITEM NO, 8.
PUBLIC D'SCUSS'ON,
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ITEM NO.8.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF VACANCIES
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Housing Commllslon . Tlvoo vlClncl.. lOt Ilvoo'yo.r 10lma
ondlng Mly I, 1998, (Torma 01 Rogol Rollly, Bonl.mln
Mooro, .nd John McMAhon ond,) Thoao appo!nlmonll will be
modo t1lho Milch 17, 1992, moollng ollho Clly Council.
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ITEM NO, 7.
CITY COUNCIL 'NFORMATION.
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fllcMUe/~frn!(~1 W~IIe BuHen Coor~lnoW ror (CIeoo I lUll "'O(ll~ In@
",t 10 tell ~ou ~~out ~ or09r~m thaI weoo I! Involved In rt~hI M'" In
'~~ Cooper~tlon wllh ISU .xtenSlon oho I:\rlwo04 comrnunll~ COII.g.
lO$! yur (CICOG reCelY.d ~ gronl Irom Itl' IOwa OIlP.lOr.dflll
Allernotly, grbntlund to puttogttt.tr 0 OM Vm program on soum
redUCtion ~nd thiS IS ~n eMOllonal program on sourc. red'Jctlon I
Just WOuld III~ to glv, you 0 qUlcl: 4,'lnlllon on wt,~t ~our'e
reduCllon IS to relresh your m.rnol'lJ SOllrc. reM lien IS on~ practice
IMt reduces the quanllty or 10xlCltV 01 any wolle and 1\ IS 11M 01
lund~mentally dlllcrent lhOt recycling Recycling taI.os placo ofter
w. hm almdy Dought and consum.d 0 prOM I whtrOO$ lource
reduction teacnes you hOW not to prOduce the waste In tM 11m
place So thIS progrom IS directed at rQSldents In Benton, Iowa
JohnSon, Jones, lynn, and Torno county 10m the coordlMtor Or the
program and Mve been ytOr~ln9 In Cedor PaPIOS ot Ihe ECICCGS olllc,
SInce lost July trying to research I hove Deen In 10uCh with
organizations ond alllerent groups around the countl'lJ whO or.
worl:lng ot source r'ductlon In Ihelr communities So IhlS program IS
gOIng to toke ploce 01 the lowo Clly IIDrory In /larCh The 2nd,9th,
16th, ond 30th And It WI!I run lor oppproxlmotely two to two ond 0
Mil hours It will Delrom seven to nine pm In IhO mnlng \'ie will
olso be hOlding closs Ollhe 110non ISU extension olllce on Ihe dOles
of lIorch 3rd,IOlh,l71h, and 31st 11150 lit lhe sorn. \line There IS no
chOrge lor the closses, we 4re 05llng thOl peopl. Sign uP Dy lhe Ilrst
of Narch And some 01 Ihe 10plC lhOl we will De covenng Will De
smort Shopping ond pockoglng Issues, sourco reduction, ond 1110 cycle
onolysls, House hold hozordous woste ollemotlYG$, yoro ond worm
Den compoSllng we will De Olscustng puDl1C policy onO leglSlotlvo
Issues regarding solid woste m~nogoment, SIding tho landfills, whot
IS 011 Involved, os well OS source reduCllon .\nO we wl11l\Old 0 youth
worl:shop So we are yen) eXClled IIboutth& whole program, and I'd
IIko 10 emphOslze thiS IS dlrecled primarily lor reSidence we whOt
to try 10 help teach people oDout way' thelJ can reduce the amounl at
gorMge Ihey oro prodUCing And 0 very InterOSllng component or IhlS
program IS Ihot wo will os~, when ever people nove completed the
lour progroms, If onyDooy IS Interested In OOlng on sort of outreaCh,
lalklng to their Church group. talkIng to their CIVIC or SOClol group, or
whOt not WhOt we hope to dO IS hOve a formal1:ed networl: setup
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wnereDy people con lhen wM Mve come 101M closses con then go OM
leaCh otMr oeople Daslcally onylhlng lhey went to lnow about source
reaucllon
KUDby/When people sIgn uO dO they call 0 certain number':'
fllCMlle/Yes, lhey cen cell me ollhe ECICOG orrlce AM cur nurn~tr hero In
C@~or RapIdS IS 398'1266 Also peoplA con cont~~t thOlr county
extension offIces And call1helr counly exlenSlon orrlces 10 Slon up
also AM we ore esl:lng people 10 Sign up ~y 1M 1st of flerch The
response we have golten has Deen 0 bll more then we Mve exoecte~,
so we would In:e to hOve some Ideo of hOw many peool~ will De
o\lendlng before the clmes actually sWt
Novl And you aro aSkIng people to stand uo ror 0 SOrleS of four claim?
tllchellel ThOt IS correct
Horowl MIChelle, dO you go out to hlgn schools or cny other groups th~t ere
Interested In thiS?
tllchellel Well, 05 I believe you know, Liz ChrlSlIansen IS gOlllg to City High
to give 0 talk I have done a couple of tall:5 Actually one at one of the
geogrophy closses ot the university 'we M.; ijon; soma taH's a~vui
thiS, but whot we ore hoping to do IS get poop Ie to come to these
clmes ond help educote them so they fealthe con go out and tal~ to
other people In whatever way they wanl We are vef'lJ hOppy to give
presentations, Dolh LIz and myself, on a varlely ollhm 10plCS we
are covering
Horowl Are cny of these bOlng video topea so that we could putthern 011 our
public access channel?
111chellol We 1'1'111 be video tOPing all of the 10w~ Cl\y clmes
Horowl Because you've managed to hit 0 number of our counsel meollng
nights, John wanted 10 learn about worm comoost
JOhn/l've been wailing a long lime 'or lhat
111cnellel They 1'1'111 be vIdeo taped ana actually people hove oeen aSkIng US
because If they con nOl come lMl evenIng we 1'1'111 hove copIes of lhe
video topes at 011 of tile exlenSlon orrlces So any who could not
a\lend could cneck out tM tapes
Ilorowl ThIS Is fantastic, ThIS IS your lon~'llIllloney at won roH:s ThiS
Is really neot Thank you r11Chelle
Wall shellonl I'm Wall Shell on, I'm 0 rellred reSIdent or Iowa Clly and a
memoer of counsel of elders at the senior cenler we were recenlly
Inrormed lholthe counsel nod shelled lhe Idea or adding 12 parung
slots on WashIngton slreet by 1M senior cenler I'd lIke to gel you to
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supporl 01 lhls ISsue 1 have galhered In lour ooys 120 Deople thol
will boc~ lhal We con get more And we thln~ lor lhe money I! IS the
beil way to git anybody IntoreSled 10 cornIng 10 Ihi conlor T~o'o 12
slOI; 10 bo opon 10 untor mimbors WIll ~O ono Ihtrd Iho P&rtlngll
we shOuld g~t them I have lour people back hero thOt may hOve
something to say on the ISSue, we're all Involved and woulO W:e vel1J
much for you to support us In getting thes~ porting slots
Horow/ I hove 0 Question I was under the Imp; mlon lMt these were to be
lor the volunteers at the senior c~nter
\'Ialt Shelton/ They ore lor open O3'klng vie will redeSignate that aree lor
volunteers We hove volunleer spms alroady In Ihe olher 20 SIOI$
Larson' You would open thOse up then to the general senior center visitOrs?
Walt Shelton' WhOt we would dO woulo be move our volunteer slots out oul
to that curve area and the~ would odd to our overall parking ma
Nov/ ,mpect street par~lng Open to anyone whO would wont to pay for It
Larson/..reserved spot.
Walt Sheltonl They would be merve~ Our plan IS lhallwo of them would
bo for sect busses, that already operoto In that oroo And It's a
moiler of l:nOCl:lng out the cement and extending on oree lhat already
pxlSt
KUbby/ But we could designate that II we chose to rtn so
Nov/ and enforce It?
l:ubby/ tf there IS not Q sticker ThOl'S Bill Job ISln It
Walt Shelton/ They hove 0 slicker for the rest 01 the area, we pay lor 0
sticker to pori: In the rest 01 the area So you could put on the curve
that It reQuIres a stiCker or somethIng to thOl ellect
Kubby/ Well the only support I've heard Irom It, Irom people os benellt os
an open parking meterparl:lng
Lorson/ Thai was my compromise tryIng 10 gel I! because I thln~ It IS a
cheap way to get moro parkIng spot I'm WIlling to voto lor It the walJ
It IS. I oon't know \I there I sony support lor It
Wall Shelton/ We'd certaInly appreciate any support we coulO get because
wo have at least 10 poople 0 day lhat refuse 10 come to the cenler on
loove becauso thoy con par~ It IS a wonderlulthlng for people 10
have such 0 cent or os thiS ThiS cenler IS prObably ronked UD In lhO
top five In thO notion os for os faCilities and use ana activity Ithlnk
that people there hOve POlO taxes there 011 there lives were semors
and owned property In the CIly and I thInk thOse 12 slots lor S24
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tl~ruwl \;011 dces 1M culmcll r~olt:e thaI we were cerlolnhj 1001109 ot lhe
new wtlng remp In lhO Cl\o~nc~ S~ron 10COlion os DOing 0 sourc~ 'or
WI:lng for lhose Un people
SheHonl Will II De diSlgooled Senior porl;ln~ $IIcW arWln IhallaCllll~?
Horow/l would wlalnly conSICGr som@thlng Ille IMI
CourlMV/llhlnl: tMtthe generalf@elln9 was tMt we .....onted 10 walt 1111
we got thiS finalized II ~Ie 00 In 'OCI ever get II "ooll:Od Thot's
coming very soon ana tMn see wnat sort Of allocallons we want to 00
Dolore we spent the money to dO thaI
Shelton/ \yell we've heard of tliat We Queslloncd whether wo would De oDle
to pOr\( lor our onnuQllu In 0 foclllly lI~e tMt Plus the fact thOt
thet's Qulle 0 wOI~ ona most of the people there ore eloerly Woll:lng
tMt fM IS just 0 Illtle 100 tar 'or somo onywoy
I:UDDyl You'd hove to get your younger volunteers or 'Iller vOlunteers to pert.
there,
Shelton/ We he or you
MDylThe only other thing I'm concerned obout mOllng porl:ing and tO~lng
~Ide walk out IS thot you hovo two entronce woys, We would hOve to
decrease the wldlh of the Side wall: wouldn't we?
Shelton/ It's Qulle WIde there tnough
KUDDy!ll'S Quito Wide Dmuse I woll: up ona down thm ollt09 time and I
see 0101 of people wllh mObility difficulty, whelher there people In
wheelcholrs or w01l:ers and there seerns 10 be 0 need for thol omount
of spoce rtght there because you hove two entrance woys, one for
ECumenical towers and the other for the seRlor center, where people
ore gOing up the rood ond down the rOOd from lhOse two pOints Of
entronce And the ewpertence hOw beGn thallhe Width has beGn
Importont, not that It would be Impo$$lDle wlllloutll, butthotlt's
used TM spoce IS used
Shelton! There ore olreOdy spoces In fronl Of EcumeOlcollowers Ihough
Horow! Walt, IS thiS somelhlng thot EcumeOlcoltowers hos ogreed wllh?
Shellon/ Ecumenical lowers ogreed wllh II Ortglnally, lhot they would give
up Ihelr oreo bock there, II we would pulln 0 porklng romp DOCk there
Ana I think the council SOld thOt City englneertng refused 10 dO lhot
Decouse thm wOin'1 room enough for entronce and exll But there
would De room enough tlthey want 10 pul a whole romp In there
comDlnlng Ecumenlcoltowers ono seOlor porklng I Oon'tl:now oboul 0
deollll:e tMtlhot would probobly hove 10 be woy on down the line
Thol's pOSSible 10 dO ond Ihe hove volunleered lo give up there parking
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llorow! Do the~ I now about IIIIS orooosa1
SMlton! I'm not sure
Horow! I'm Intifi$led In ~artn'i pOint of vlOW 6tcau.e I'd 1110 10 IMW
hOw thIS wO'lld olffCIlhO ontranco wa~ 10 IIIO\( l~clllly 0$ \i.11 ~,
the seniOr center
SMlton! I'm sure tMt there I~ enOU?h Sloe wal~ lef! clter ~QU oet tMt,
because ther~ IS IUit a bIg Jut out \Iwre IMt Isn't even sloe wall
~ubblJl Where tMt tree IS?
She Iton! ~o
Lmon/ Itr Shelton, AS Ithln~ I told IJOU on tM pneno, I'm In lovor 0111
becauso estlmaUd cost 01 126 thOlUand and would prOboDI~ oM up
being 0 real COi t 01 much les s tMn that tlore I lie $ 16 or S I e
thOlJSaM when Iloo~eo at the figures we were not gIven when we
,oosldered thiS lust Decause there cre so man~ other buaget things to
conSld~r Il SWIlS to me tMt 9~tlIlIg ten iPOt avaIlable for down
town IS worlh lMl kind of Inveslment We ore gOing 10 spenO $0-$10
thOusand to bUild a bunch of parking spoces In 0 romp And whelher
lhls ten aro oarmarUd for SenIor Conter or not Thero gOIng to toko
lhe place of len IDOlS somewhere to corne to the Senior Cenler
anyway So IllS gOing 10 odd len spolS 10 downtown no matler hOW
you cuI It On lhe other Mnd the amount ollntorut we con continue
to genmte at the SenIor Center IS worlh that ~Ind ollnvostmenl ana
there wosn'l anything new In the Dudgel for the Senior Center thiS
yeer, except 0 little lonltonal help To me It'S 0 cheap IIllle bonus to
Increase Inlereslln the SenIOr Center So I'm In favor 01 It ond I
would oncourogo otMr pooplo to ~\Ipporl It, but It'S lough 10 gol
money oul of lhe budget allhlS pOint
KuDbyl There IS $20 thousand 0 yoar lor 3 yoars lor ma)Of mblntononci bnd
loco IlllS In the SenIOr Center, so I wouldn't soy thoro IS nothing
Shellon! well that'S normal Duoget ISn't It? the lOalntp.oonce?
\:UbDyl well no tillS IS $20 thOusaM a year on top or It
Shelton! weill aon't I:now thOl much about the Internal buOget or the
Center, but It seems to me thOt thiS Isn't on excosSIVO amount 10 get
thOt much help ror parking to attract oeoplo to thO Centor, whiCh
we're tryIng 10 do It's 0 great center and we lI~e to get oeople In
there
Ambr! Weill oon't wonl ~ou to lhln~: tI\ot you gol seven hQrO-hWlea souls
here that you ore talking to, were your rrlends, you know lhOt Ana I
hope In IS- 20 years I'll De able to use those parkIng spols 100 We gal
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o surprise lossed 01 us by 0 couple OIMr sourCllorw \1e tMughl \'Ie
hOd our bUdgel fine-tuned The COIJOIV bWd of SllperVllOrS lell now
that theyre weren't gOing 10 fund the I1trery 10 the emounl 0' wMI
we Ihlnl: our volld cOnlrocl So Just allhll vor~ surfoce WII ore
100~lng 01 0160 Ihousaoo SMrl foil tnm ond fIr All:lns OM 1M
"oyor went Des f10lnes two wms ago ond SW:lnglt from
Information from the stote and the brough! oW: a surtlrtse or two
olso Some Shortfall 'Ni moy be faced with thiS coming fiscal So as
Ilold my deslgnoted good neighbor lObbyist Bill Coon earlier a couple
times I really gOI to 101,14 a look 01 that before I come down OM way
or onother on these oar~ln9 spots And I dO ogree that they would be
money well spant I wont also to toll. 10 Joe Fowler, our oarklng
supervisor ana Chle' Wlnklehake, to see IUS! hOw,lf we wen I along
Wllh !lle proJeCl, guarantee Ihose spOts would be Ihere when you
wonted them I've Deen Involved In lease entire vocent lots for my
oHlce, and we put Signs up and everyday we had to hove someone
towed out Of there SO It's 0 tough prOblem to solve
Shellon! We've considered DUltlng 0 bOOk or tickets down storrs ana onyone
seeing on Illegal pork, ticket It We ticket people who Pork Illegally
on our lot We hove 0 potrol two times 0 dOY, sometimes more often,
that go out ond Issue tiCkets But here's another conSlderotlon IMt'S
ror putting It on the bUdget thiS year, IS If illS budgeted, the counly
would ~Ick In twenty percent we believe
Kubby! We billeve IS very Important
Shallon! We believe they'll do thaI becouse on mOSI of Ihe Semor acts Ihey
do shoulder most olthalr responSibility So whether they dO or not IS
another Question
Courtney! Well, 1 don't think It's any streIch of lhe Imagination lhOllt's a
dead Issue, but gonerolleeling IS Ih~1 we w~nt 10 nOld o'f on some of
these olher conslderallons The Duagels and lhe romp Delore we
deCide, II's not a lorge enough expedllure Ihot we dO II mid year, eyen
If II's not Include In the onglool budget We USually come up wllh
some conllngency '"ndS olong the way lhol con help uS out on a small
expedlture
Shellon! Well, I'm nere 10 reawoken your Interests I oppreclole your lime
Karen Hradek! GOOd Evening, I'm Koren HrOdek, I didn't realm we were
gOing to hoye a mUSical theme tomgn!, SO I thOught I noa to conllnue
We heard .Sunrlse Sunset" earlier So lonlgnt lis .So long torr well
ore saying gOOdbye' I'm leovlflglown folks So I'm here to reslgfl
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all my PositionS Word of IhOu~"IIJPon l~aYlnv Illy~d Mr~,
considering 6111'5 commenl, nol OS long OS I thOught 1 had, I thlnl M
ludgo 0 Il\lIe on hiS ago IherO, almost half 0 conlury As 01 lonl?h\ I
om reilgnlnglrom Ihe 1111ler Orchard neighborhood chair WordG of
odvlse, whGn the City 1$ chosen Inlo neighborhoOdS OS It conllnuOG
dOn'llel just onybody be Cholrperson You'd be ommd OlluSI hOw
mon~ people ore olrald 10 come down hm. lhe~'re scored 10 death
The~ don't underslond Clly government 'whotl soy mekes no
difference' They thln~: now maller whall soy nolhlng gOing 10
MPpen anyway And lhe chOir peNon hos 10 eduCale Ihem 1110111',
of:oy, your word counts Come down ond say what'S on your mind vou
\Ive In lhal neighborhood, you breolh II you eOlll, In your bOSe 01
strMglh DOll Doll for yourself, dO 11 lor your neighbor After
tonight I'm gOing 10 nave one mora p~r1:S and oriS meeting So l'II be
reSigning from thot 1iay I encourage you to replace me wllh a femole,
OS mist OS they moy sound I thInk we need Ihot balence on the
commiSSion, for w~at ever reoson I don't know whalthetr Inlerests
may be, It'S lell up to the fulure
1I0vl We encouroge you to tell your female friendS to opply
HrodM I'm olso, os 0 rmll of 011 this, of course giving up open spoce
odvlsory commlllee place Thot's 0 laugh one I wos on Ihe first one, I
Ihlnk Sue wos on Ihe IIrSI one, way bock In Ilhlnf: '5S I remember
coming out of those meetings wllh heodoches 1119hll encouroge
council OS the recommendations come forlh ThiS will come forlh
wllh greollhoughl behind 11, mony hours of conslderotlon wm
rewriting, rethinking, ond obove 01110 be lOIr 10 lhe Clllzens,
developers, ond the city We've gOllo prolecl our green spo~e, hOo~:
up our green bolls where ond when POSSible, our bike IrOlls, our
scenic river sections We've gal 10 do Ihls Vou con'l)usllellhlngs
hOppen, lelllle developers have whalthey will I'm not ogolnst
developers, bul you gOllo have 0 pion And moke It worl: And IhOlls
Ihe only way Then make It In 10 0 low lorn nol soylng to putleelll
In 10 anybOdy JuSI mol:e 11 worl: for evenJbody I hOve seen mony
limes where porI's octuolly ore woter relenllon bOSlns Well Ihls IS
very convenient IllS 0 green spoco Gronled Bul when you conSider
lolely In Ihe yeors IhOl hove passed Ihose supposed porf:s ere often
under waler ThO! IS nol a porI: to me ThOlls 0 place where kids
drown Thai IS 0 ploce where dlseoses ore plc~:ed up \~here onlmols
die ond rolln Ihe waler Leis sove some ploces thOI we I:now ore
gOing to be por~s Come hell or high weler Leis make II \'tort You
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time right here Decouse olllhOI gorDoge has Deen IOken core or Dyane
orolnence So gOOd Dye fol~s
Horowl ThOn~ you, Koren.
Courtney/Koren If you woulo hOvo lot mo know ahOOG at limo I could hm
prepored 0 SPUCh tor IhlS I will hove to wing It olf the culf We
certainly ohroy! ~new thot when you ore In the audience, up until
tonight, lhOt we were gOing to De Challenged And again tonight we
were challenged ond It IS 0 huge loss tor the tllller Orchard
ntlghbomood There hos never Deen on advocote greoter than you lor
thot neighborhOod I hOpe thOt you hove lound somebOdy to reploce you
and rill your shoes. P/R will miss you and we WIll miss you Than~:
you
Anyone else under pucllc dlsculSlon
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l:uDDyll wonted to UII to you 0 little DII ODool sCOlle t~nls tonight
B.ceuu ~u 011 epOOlnlOd mo 10 tM ORlIlO we5lo wet.r m1nogomonl
dlSlrlCl commllloo ollh. count~ and IhHf I' 901r'910 DO a p~DIIC
heonng thIS Thursday In front ot thO fWd 01 Heellh lor somo
roguloUons And SInce I wes 0 pert ot tMt I wcntod 10 let you I now
briefly whOttM proposod r@gulollons were end If o~y or you had
comments lor the Boord 01 Health II will 90 to tM 6Wd or Heath
end tMn the Bool'll or $uQfrvl!ors Beslcally tM regulatiOnS' OIll1l0!e5
ore to protect ground woler rrom being contemlnated rrom III
maIn tal nod up tic system. Thoro m two pham 10 tho regulations
There will De so thot suDdlvlSlons need to hOve tholr tanks cheeled
regularly and their oDsorpllon midi mcted regularly ond lnere ore
two woys thOt you cen dO It Home Ownm ASSOC con determine VlMt
their plan of action will be and there would be no fee So It would be
kIN! of nelghDorhOod responsIbIlity for hOw their septIC tonkS ore
wOl1:lOg ond their abSOrption field If they opt no to hove thOt self
regulatton then It would bo thot they Pay x amount of dollars for 0
permanent ana lhe county would give them 0 SChedule ana tell them
whet they hm to do end then they do It And there hes been.thotls e
cnenge It use to bo thetthe county was gOIng to gIVe you 0 schedule
ena remInder end you pay the ree And people wented e more pOSltlve
IncentIve Instead oll:lnd or 0 heavy hOnded opprooch to It So thiS
wey we ore gIVing the rural neighborhOOdS some control over their
neighborhOods I am kind or excited thatlhlS IS flnolly hOPponlng
The commlttop heS been In existence for two years I hove boen on II
ror one year And we ore flnolly moving e Iltlle bll on It
Horow/ Koren, IS thIS lies Inlo el 011 with soil conservel1on
Y.ubbyl No
Horow/ SoundS 0 11tlle bit olf lhe woll In J C the 5011 Conservotlon Comm
ObViously IS In lhe urDen. rural rurol .urbon oroo
Kubbyl Dul we ore exclUSively 100l,In9 01 prevonteltve measures 10 make
sure people ore not hovlng 10 fix their tonks, dig therr whole Ijord up
and sterl over ot e huge expense but dOing Interm1l1enl prevenlol1ve
things
Ncv/lslhlS gOing 10 be wrllten In os mOlntenonce IS done every two
yeors flnlle number
Kubbyl RighI Every three yoor~ where your ton~: gets chW:ed and 11 doesn'l
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InSOeeled oM InsoeCtlon PorlS will be on lne Sllrfm \0 It IS "fn)
my lor a lay person to go eM ChW leern where their tor,1 $ ore
Horow/ And thiS ta~es InlO consldmtlon,corr&C\ me III om wrong CuI
aren't thm subdivISions out In Ihe counl~ '10 we Ihtll hOve m)(f IMn
one hOUse tMt feedS Into the one.
Kubby/ Yes .\nd It \'ioulO tal:e care 01 all systems In SubdiviSIons 01 wtaln
mes
SO'I wanted to report the wor\: thaI I hOve bHn dOing thOt you
delegated me to dO And I want to remind City council memWs OM
staff oeople WhO ore on our bowling 100m We have an almost all
women teom 'Bowl lor ~Ids Sole' Dole 15 our tOI'en male on our team
You hOve all 90t\('1 your pledge cards flake sure you don'llorgelto
weor your tee ShlrlS we will be getting tee Shirts ThOllS 0111
ha'le
lamnl Just two QuIC~ things. ,Wanted to remind tMt two tlrnvS In tM
meetlng as you did at the Initial proclcmatlon thOt the crl auction lor
the OVIP Is their m~JOr fund raiser lor the yeor It rully IS an
extraordlnal1J part of thnlr efforts thiS Is something really to go
to ,Ilarch 6th, 3 pm, at the Union ..Secondly. SOClol Worl: flonth
proclaImed for Narch In light of the boards 01 Regents olan or
prooosal to eliminate the SChOol WhiCh would not only affect many
students at the Unlverslly but also many of our social service
agenCIes and the Quallly of lIle We talk olten about tM Quallly of
life on Iowa City Here IS something concrete TM council as a whole
Is gOing to do some things to lObby that the SChool not be eliminated
But In the splrll 01 naming that Month SOCIal Work month I would urge
all private citizens to contact nol only the prWdent 01 the University
but also the Socl~1 Work School and the Board or Regents to urge that
that elimination 01 the school not go to ellect because It would
~llect a lot 01 agencies In town
Nov Rondy, ~re you sure It IS the school thOt IS being ellfnlnated
Larson! Just the undergr~duate progrom But the undergraduates do the
overwhelming amount 01 volunteering os porI or thO degree
program certainly a big part Thank you
/lov/ I have to announce the blrlhday 01 the Leaguo of Womon Votm 72
Yem In conJunction wllh the amendment giving women the write to
vote And the local League of Women voters IS 7\ years old they ore
having a birthday party tomorrow evening, 7 pm, Corolvllle PuDl1C
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lIDrol'lj, even;bO~V IS welcom@ 10 c~m~
I\mbrl Hr HOVor, the ooV Defore vester~ov we M~ onotMr 'nc'aent 0' 0
rollroa~ freight cor derOlllng ot 0 verv vulnerODle WI In our traffic
patlom In lowO CHy ThIS one hopponed al aDoul 1230 a m a"~ II
could h&v~ vory w~n'ewly h6vll hOpponed 010 lime 01 dOy \\I\on
there IS on owfullot of trolllc gOing north Ond south underneoth tMt
trestle on GIlDert Street I lust Quesltcn wnether we os 0 cHV nove
the responslbllltV to talk to the Interstate rOllroo,j cornpenV and 051
them why thiS haPpens In the Wltculor locale IS HtM weight 01
the freight. .0llrlDuted to the poor mOlntenance of the trock LIndO,
I don't expect on onswer from you tonight But IS there some woy In
whiCh we con Uii ellher legol meons or morol su05l0n or whatever
woys we con to OVOid thm 1:lndS of InCIdence
Gentrvl Yes illS ironIC tMt Vou shOuld DrlngthallJ~ I wos reo~V to
respond to the schOol Question toooy I hOve Deen talkIng to FreO
Yocum about 0 proposed train crOSSing orOlnonce we ore trvlng to
restrict the blockIng time, We con 00 under state low Dutthere ore
faIrly narrow constraints os to how mUCh we con do tMt and at wMt
locations Hr, Yocum and I Mve hod ~everol conversotlons Ond they
moke II verv clear thOt they wont to De gOOd neighbors. Thet they
wont to De gOOd citizens and we were explOring the school SItuation
but fronkly I dIdn't aSk him whet hOd preclPlloted the groin event and
I will call him up ond report bocl:
Courtneyl We seem to be MVlng ot leoS! one a year Inside of the city limits
CHANGE TAPE TO REEL 92- 24 SIDE 2
Ambr/l am Interested In portlculor In tMt locotlon It obout tOOk out a
very valuable building Not to mention the OCCllponls of the bUIlding
Horowl Actuolly lIs Gentry commented on whot I wonted 10 deal wllh I
would like to I:now whether there was ony relollonshlp Detween thot
Spill and the blocl:oge on First Ave
Gentry/'{es there wos The relatlonshlp wos the yord wOS restrlcte~
becouse thO cleon U wos nol Qulle os well Oone 05 they thought
Therefore with the yord restrIcted thO yor~ could not be used ottlle
llme when the movement was gOing toword .ocross First Ave In front
of SUr High ond we hove ogree~ I hOve 0 meellng set up FrI~oy w1lh
RJ WlnklehO~:e 000 probaDly Steve WIll De Involve~ on~ someone from
PuDlIc WorkS to toll: obout Deller coorOlnollng system A rOllrood hot
line Somehow we con coordlnole trYing to bring In tile police to
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Horowl There were SIX ws II went SlOw It stopped wtlh Six WS more 10
go
Gentl'lJl Thet w~s bec~use the ~~rd w~s restricted It w41 0 )udgomonl coli
tlr Yocum SOld
Horow/l hove 0 number 01 calls and thIS IS re311~-
gentl'lJI We are wor~ln9 on the overoll restrlCllon at tMt laeotlon lor
ordinance purposes TM rest ollhem moy be prOblematic
Courtneyl Even 11 we hod on ordlnonce In place ond you hod 0 derallmenl-~Ou
are stilI gOing to bloc~
Gentl'lJl And the st~te lew contemplates thOt there ore certain Sltuotlons
whiCh Is 0 mollunctlon ond thOt wo hove no control ovor It we cen
trigger cerlOln mechonlsms from the police dept 000 others thet '11'111
help allevlote or omelerlotote thaI altect It he;
HcDI One Question I nottced In the memo we receleved from tlarlar.ne
IImman 00 we hm to take any t~pe of formal action Con we agree
Informally to extend those terms of those threc CCII members The
terms end the dote that they '11'111 be mal:lng the recommendattons of
reviewing the eppllcatlons thot they heve hod for bloc~: grant funding
There would be three vel'lJ brand new people silting there that would
not hove even gotten through the heorlngs So the recommendattons
wos thot we extend their terms lor one month
Gentryl Yes
Courtney/llove end monded (Ambrl Horow) to extend the terms of-
Horowl Roberto Patrick, Jim 5t John and George Starr
Courtneyl To April 1st
Any discussion'
All those In Favor-
rIot Ion passes
McDI The only other thIng when we rocelved whICh seems to be happenIng 0
little 1001'0 IrOQuently now Dole.letters complolnlng Obout the COble
company How IS thet response normolly handleO Does It go to Drew
Helllngl Yes Traditionally 011 of the complaints hove been processed
through Drew's olllce and he has handleO them When he has problems
- the Comm con ull1mately step In
1'lcDI HoY! about the response bock to the IndIVidual They u.ually-obvIOu.ly
some 01 the thIngs thot hoppen we only hOve so much control over 0
cable compony But when somethIng connot be resolved Irom our end
Does Drew respond Is there 0 response that goes bacl: to the
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tleO/ Gooo resulls or coo mulls
Holllngl Right
Courtnfy/llu anyol\e elst comploll\ed aboutlhO r"JucllOn In 51:0 In Iho HBO
ano (Inema~ gUide
Helllng/llo-
LorIon/ Now sell a program guide that you can buy
Courtne'J/ Tomorrow \'Ie ore begInning the process tMt started 0 few weel;,
CQC~ We Mve come up with Q JOint committee of City council people
and school board people to 1001: Into the whO solety concerns 01 OPO's
of the IndlvlMI IChools and we ore startIng out w1lh 0 11Itle tour at
3pm end kInd of drive around and see first hellO whOt some of the
concerns ore 000 we WIll conllnue on With lormal meetings after Ih3t
The proces, " begInning tomorrow
t:ubbyl Regarding or schedule for next week, there IS no Informal or formol
at 011, Correct.
Cournteyl Correct
NeOI We done with budget.
Horowl Whol hOPPined 10 thi budge I
NO'll We thought thot we were dOM
11eOl Ith:ught there wore 0 fow things lolt hanging out thore Was I
mlstol;en"
lorsonl tllght hove nuno some of them thOt nlghtthOt you weren't there
tlcO/ Do you have 0 115t ovolloble somewhere J guess we solved everything.
Courtney/ We hove 0 public hearing on the 3rd or Itorch
IleOIOkoy I will look through some of my ~tull I!oyce you did address
SOme of the things on ttondoy night
Courtneyl We prelly much hOd to Ilnlsh things up thOt night $0 we could
have the puCllc hearing
tlcO/ For 011 procllcol purposes we Qre done
Kubbyl Depending upon WhOt tM stote Ooes, wa hOve to go through the C I P
again
Courtneyl Rood use to~ don't ~;now how mUCh rood use to~ we ora bringing
In
Kubbyl EverythIng wllh generolfunO money Land fill Issues we hoyen't
finalized becouse 1\ IS 011 revenue funds ys
Courtney I Old you Mye onythlng you wanted to odd In
tlcD/ Not os for os the budgetltsell I thOught we were gOing to uso that
lime to use the budget process to also toH: about raVijnue sourcas
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Courtneyl W. did pullh4t Oil -In. decision on whICh lo~es OM SO on
tleOI TMtl, gOing to Ce SCheduled lor cnother diScuSSion
Courtneyl YU
/lovl [~tro meeting In /lmh
Courtn@y/ I thlnl: there will De 4n extra Oil meeting In tlorCh
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Rogulal CouIlciI Maollng
Fobtuory 11, 1992
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REPORT ON ITEMS FROM THE CITY MANAOER AND CITY ATTORNEY.
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ITEM NO, 8.
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CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE A TENTATIVE COLLECTIVI
BAROAlNINO AOREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OP IOWA CITY AND
THE POLICE LABOR RELATIONS OROANIZATlON OF IOWA CITY,
Commont: Tho Clly .nd lho Pollco L.bOt Ral'llonl Org.n/llllon hava
roechod 0 10nlaUvo colloCllvo barg.lnlng ogroamanl lOt . Iwo,yoar
conlracl ollocllvo JulV I, 1992 Ihtough Juno 30, 1994. MilOt
modlflcoUona 10 Iho o.llIlno .groomonllncludo .croU'lho.board w.go
IncrollO. 01 2" allho boglnning 01 FY93, 3" In Iha mlddlo 01 FY93,
.nd 4" Ollho baglnnino 01 FY94; lha oddlllon 01 Mlrlln LUlhal Kfng, JI.
D.y .S . paid holld.y, lneroalo.ln longovlly paymonlalO oquollholo 01
olhol clly omp/oyoos, .n Incroosa 01 80 pel hOUlIOt olllcorl asslgnod
10 Iho II PM 10 7 AM W.lch, ond . prOvlllon which will allow Iho CIIY
10 roopan nagoU.Uonl 101 a ch.ngo In Iho haolth caro plan undal corl.ln
clrcum.lancoa wharo olhol barg.lnlng unll' ogroo 10 Ipaclllo chino..,
Acllon: .JJJ/c;d~/ ,/Jnl/;
ITEM NO, 10.
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CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUntoRIZINO THE ADOPTION AND
SUBMISSION OF A COMMUNITY BUILDER PLAN FOR 1992.1996,
Commonl: Tho proparaUon Ollho Communlly Bulldor Pl.n will provldo
Iowa City wilh bonus points whon opplvlng lor 0 varlolY 01 11.10
lInanclol osslslanco programs. Tho purposo 0' Iho Plan Is 10 havo
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Courtneyl City Attorney
Gentf"lJ/I aon't have enough to do here olter tonight I lust won tea 10 le\ O'JI
~now that I hovo not lorgollcn oboul tlr Itoorc and I om trying 10 wor~
on something
/lovl And you ha~iln't 'orgollen oboullhe lawn Chemical' either
Gentf"l;1 tlo
Kubbyl On thOt Issue I would like for uS to do something Defore spr1ng
applicatIon So lhot with the new yeor comes the new rule~ Inslead
or mId yeor Hoving any kind 01 new rules
Genll'lJl Prolessor PopplCk promised me something
Lerson/lly personal opinion IS thOl IIr tloore IS not thO mO~1 prossing Issue
reclng us
Courtney/l don't thln~ so either
KUDbyl 00 people agree eDoullhe liming Ollookng at the lawn chemical
Issue
tlcD/1f we ere gOing 10 look etlt
Kubbyl Which meens soon
Horow/Ilell you whet Karen, I hO~e been lalklng to 0 lot or the companies
And rrankly they ore all geortng up ror whOtever onywoy They hOve
changed, They hove sold olf 0 lot of their tanks They ore hoPPY If we
eliminate 011 of It, It will meen more bUSiness foe them
Nov/ There Is a new compony out thOt Is advertiSIng organiC only
courtney/I hOve on old company do mine end they went to turkey manure
bm lost year
Kubbyl There 19 other thtngs'slgns, things like thOt thOt they would need
110st or them don't hOve 0 problem
Gentl'lJl I will call PauL
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1Itg1bt CMeU Ma.ling
'obtuory 11, 1902
P.g, 0
ITEM NO, 11 .
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communi II.. dovolop 0 d.ll bal' 01 InlOlmallon on various compononll
01 lho communlly .nd 10 oll.bllsh 0 p1.n whlch .ddroll.. IholO
COtnpononll, Allho Jonuary 21, 1992, Clly Council mIlling, no
Commonll wor, roc,lvod r,glldlng lho dl.II COtnmunlly Bulldol PI.n,
A copy ollht Plan rOldy 101 adopllon lalnclud,d In lho Clly Council'.
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CONSIDER A RESOLLlTION AMENDING THE BUDGETED POSITIONS IN
THE ASSISTED HOUSINO DIVISION OF THE HOUSING AND INSPEC.
TIONS DEPARTMENT.
Common!: Tho wOIkJoad ollho Housing InspoCIOI pol'llon ,. basad
upon lho numbol 01 unIl. uncIlI conlracl wllh Ih, Daparlmlnl 01
Housing Ind Urban DovoloptROnllHUDI.nd Iho .cllvlly In sUPPOlI 01
lho ptoor.ma which lhoso unlll rOptOl,nl. Tho Housing Inlpocllon
poslllon w.. crUlld In FY90, Th' grOWlh In lho numbol 01 unlll and
lho .clfvlly o.porlonc, compols .n Incroua In Ihfl poslllon.
CUl/onllncom, Illulllclonllo lund Ihls posllJon, Sloll 10cOtnmlnd.
.dopllon.
ACllon:
ITEM NO. 12 .
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MDy!1 have one Quelllon eM II request The OO$ltlon Isn't necemr1ly II
Quetter time OOSltlon thet can De shllted around wllh current
employm So when 1'1, vote 0/\ thl$ o/\e we or, voting on how thaI
time IS be spill up OM With whOm It goes
Henderson! TMtlS correct Beslcally II will be two OOSltlons which wtll
Mv, tile equIvalent 0' I 5 total
rubby! tlv request IS thOt whenever we hOve a hOUSing authorlly ISSue illS
always th.lost pOrt 0' the agenda I don'tthln~ illS lair to Ron to
make him sit for two hours ,our energy level Is all/erent end thet he's
got to Sit here Once In 0 while we coula put him etthe boglnnlng.1
think we shoula switCh things erouna
Courtney! Roll call-
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City of Iowa City
MEMORANDUM
DATE: fObrull'Y 7, 1992
TO: CI ty Council
FRl>>l: City lII",ger
REI Vork Solllon Agendu .nd /lotting Sclledull
.fehru." 10, 1992 IIondo
5:30 . 6:45 P,H, City Council Work 5011 Ion . Council Ch.lbtrl
5:30 P,H. . Rtvlew zoning ..ttorl
5:50 P.H. . Convontlon and Yllltors Bureau Roport
6:20 P,H, . Loalo fro. Goodwill of offlct Ipact for Allllted
Housing Olvlllon
6:30 P.H. . Council .gondt, Council tilt, CouncIl co.slttoo reports
fehrum n. 1992 TuosdAy
7130 P,H, . Rtgular CouncIl Heltlng . Council Ch.lbors
(Roschodulld frOll Fobruary 18, 1992)
fohru." 17. 1992 .
PRESIDENTS' DAY IKlLlDAY . CITY OfFICES a.OSED
Ml CITY COUIICIL IIORX SESSION
Fehrua" 18. 1992
Ml REGUlAR CITY COUIlCIL IIEETlHG
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Tuosd.y
Hond.y
City Conforoncl 80.rd Heltlng . CouncIl Chambers
Slpar.to agenda pOlted
City Council Work 5111 Ion
Agenda pending
March 3. 1992 Tuosd.y
7:30 P,H, . Regular Council Heetlng . Council Ch.mbers
March 2. 1992
6:00 . 6:30 P,H,
6:30 . 8:30 P.H.
PEHOING LIST
Appointments to Airport Commission, Airport Zoning 80ard 0' Adjustment,
8roadband Telecommunications CommissIon, Commltteo on Community Heeds,
Historic Preservation CommISSion, Civil Servlco Commission, Hayor's Youth
Employment 80.rd, Pl.nnlng and Zoning Commission and AnImal Control
Advisory 80ard . Harch 3, 1992
AppOintments to Housings Commission. Harch 17, 1992