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IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL
AGENDA
REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF APRIL 14,1992
7:30 P.M,
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CIVIC CENTER
410 EAST WASHINGTON
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IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL ,
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REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. APRIL 14, 1992 ;(.l
7:30 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS "lit*,
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ITEM NO, ,. CAll TO ORDER. .
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ITEM NO.2. MAYOR'8 PROCLAMATIONS, Stl,lIdtkbJ , I
I. Olya 01 Romombtlnco ollho V1cllma ollho HoIoclull . All/II
U'Mly 3, 1882.
b. CommlllllY DoveloplnOnl Wook. All/II 20.28, 1882. \
o. CycUng Wookond In Iowa Clly . All/II 24,28, 1882.
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d. Atbot DIY' All/II 24, 1882.
ITEM NO.3. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR A8 PRESENTED
OR AMENDED.
I. ConsIdOl Ipll/ovII 01 Officii' Council ACIIOIII ollho IOgullr
milling 01 Mlrch 31, 1882,01 publllhod, aub/OcllO cOtrlo,
1/011I, la rocommondod by lho Clly Clork.
b. M1nulOl 01 Boorda Ind Commlulona.
III Boord 01 Ubtlry Trullooa moollng 01 March 31, 1882,
121 Boord 01 Adjullmonl moollng 01 March 11, 1882.
131 Commllloo on Communhy Nooda moo ling 01 March
18,1882.
I 141 HIIIOtlo ProlOrYlllon Commlaslon moo ling 01 March
I 10,1882.
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<I ISI Btoodblnd Tolocommunlclllonl Commlaslon moollng
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01 March 18, 1892.
ISI Housing Commlulon moollng 01 FObrulry ", 1 982,
171 Plonnlng ond Zoning Commlulon moo ling 01 April 2,
1892.
ISI Rlvorlronl Ind NIlurl1 Arm Commlulon moollng 01
Mlrch 18, 1892.
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Agondl
10wI CIly CIlY Council
Rogullr Council Moollng
All/II 14, 1892
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c. Pormll MOllonl II Rocommondod by lho Clly Clork.
III Consldor . mOllon IPll/ovIng . CIIu 'c' Bolr Pormll
lOt Slophon P. lonoch dlllloo's Sl.nd.rd SoMco,
13D N. Dubuquo. iRlnawiQ
121 Consldor I mOllon IPll/ovIng I CI... 'B' Boor Pormll
lOt chin Ind Grill, Inc" dill Chili Ind Grill, 20S N. Unn
StrOll. IRonowl1I
131 Consldor I mOllon 'Pll/ovIng I CIt.. 'E' Boor Plrmll
lOt Hy'Voo Food SlOt II. Inc., dill Druglown '2,1221
N. Dodgo. IRonowl1I
141 Consldor . mOllon IPll/ovIng I Closs 'c' Boor Pormlt
lOt Themos E. Hlrrll dill Hlrrls D1acMl, 71 Com'
morclll Dr. IRonowl1I
181 Conaldor I mOllon 'Pll/ovIng I CI... 'B' Boor Pormll
lOt Torry Flinch dill Slm'a Pin.I.C., 321 S. GUblrt
Sl. IRonowl1l
181 Conaldor a mOllon ,pll/ovIng . Cia.. 'C' UquOt
LIconlO lOt Konnody InvealmonlS, Inc., dill Tho Vlno
T.vern. 330 E. Pronll.. Sl. IRonowol1
171 Consldor. mOllon opprovlng . Clm 'C' UquOt
LIconlo lOt ClIo P.clllco 01 lowI CIlY, Inc., dill
Mondo'a Spolia ClIo, 212 S. CUnlon. IRonowll1
181 COIIIldor . mOll on OPll/ovIng 0 Clm 'C' Boor Pormlt
lOt COOll11 Morl, Inc.. dill C Mort 188, 302 S.
Dubuquo. IRonowll1
181 Conaldor I mOllon opprovlng on OuldOOf SOMCO Atll
lOt SOIIon'a BOil, Inc., dill Soolon'a BOIl, 328 E.
WOlhlnglon. IRonowl1I
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Soiling Public Hoorlngs.
III Conlldor 0 rOlolullon lOlling public hilling on All/II
28, 1882, on plonl, Ipoclllcollons, IOtm 01 ContrlCt
and OlllmllO 01 COil IOf conltrucllon 01 lho Plum
Stroollmprovomonls PrOIOCl.
Commont: This prolocl wllllncludo lho ropllcomonl
01 Plum StrOll from Hlghllnd Avonuo 10 Kookuk
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City of Iowa City
MEMORANDUM
OA T E : 4/1]/92
TO: KAyor, City Council, C.nml Public
FROM: City CI.rk
R E: Add It Ion. to Conunt C.hndar
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Conaldar a lOtion .pprovlnA . Ch.. "c" Liquor Llc.n.. tor Jon Fovlor
db. C.J,'a, 320 E. lurllnAlon. (Nov)
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SUOOl Ind lho upgrading olllOtm IOwar. Tho 0111.
mllod COil 01 constrUCllon Is "88,200.00.
121 Consldor I rOlolullon lOlling public holr'ng lOt April
28,1992, en~. ;~~lIcnl, 10fIIl 01 eillltfiet
.nd Illlmllo 01 COSl lOt conllrUClfon ollhe FY82
IIOtm lowor Imll/OVOmonll Il/oloct.
Common!: This Il/ojocl ll/ovIdOlIOt lho cOIIIlrucllon
01 IlOtm IOworsln lwo locIllCllls whoro curronlly no
IlOtm 10WO,. 0.111. Tho IlIllloc'llon Is Irom P.rk
Rood II Mogowln 10 lho 10wI Rlvor ~I Grlnod. Cl.,
MinOt Dr. .nd Clly Plrk. ThlI prOlocl will roduco
oroslon, sodimonl'llon Ind flooding probloms In lho
Iroo. Tho IOcond locI lion Is II lho IOUlh ond 01
Rldgo Sl. Haro 1IIIgO 0100 drolnslhtough bock Ylrdl
Ind down I gravol onoy. SIOtm lowor win be ll/ovId.
od 10 dr.ln lho yards ond coIloCl .ddlllenol Wlllr on
Rldgo Sl. ond convey 1110 tho HlghwlY S dllCh. Tho
onglnoor'. OIllmolod Call 01 conllrucllon II: Pork Rd.
'411.800 Ind Rldgo Sl. t34.320 lOt . 10111 01
'448,220. .
131 Consldor . rololUllon lOlling public holllng lOt All/II
28. 1892, on pllnl, lpoclllc'llons, IOtm 01 conlrlCl
Ind olllmalo 01 COil lOt lho 1892 Molnlononco .nd
Ropolr PrOIOCl . Clpllol ond Dubuquo StrOll plrklng
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Common!: ThIs proloCl will Il/o~do lOt lho ropolr 01
dock lurllmond o.plnslon 100nll, lho ropllcomlnt
01 upenslon lolnll, lho Inlllll.llon 01 wllorprooflng
mombranos, Ind lho Inllllllllon 01 0 concrolo pono.
lrOllng SIIlor 10 lho dock surl.m. Tho Englnoor'l
conslrUCllon COil OIIImOlo Is '172,000,00 lOt lho
bllo bid ond lour Indlvlduol odd Illornolos 101.lIng
190,000.00. Tho budgol IImll lOt lhls ll/olOCI Is
'208,000.00.
o. Mollons.
III Conlldar a motion 10 approvo dllburlOmonll In lho
Imounl 01 '4,813,860.88 lor lho porlod 01 March 1
lhtough M.rch 31, 1982, .. rocommondod by lh.
Flnaneo Dlroclor lubjocIlo oudll.
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Rog~lr CMCU MoOllng
AIl/U 14. 1882
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III Consldor I rOlolullon 'Pll/ovIng low. CIIY'. FY83
llvough FY87 StrOll ConllrUCl/on Program.
Commonl: Tho 10wI SI.IO Codo roqulr.. lNl cillo.
rocolvlng InOlmonl. 01 Rood UIO T.x FWlds lubmltl
lIvo.ye.r Il/ogllm 01 Il/opolod .lroot COlllltuCllon Ind
rOCOIIltrucllon 10 lho fOWl D.parlmOnl 01 Tr.nIPQttl'
lIon lOt lholr rovlow. Thll rlPQtt mUll be .ubmJllod
10 lho lOOT by Moy I 01 olch yelr. Tho roPQtlln no
wlY blnd. lho CIlY 10 lha.o Il/O/OCl. Ot lho lImIng,
Ind modinC'llon. con be mldo. A copy Ollho rOPQtl
Is Ill.chad.
g, COtrl.pondonco.
III lOllor Irom Whlllng Avonuo rosldonls rogardlng bow
Ind Irrow hunllng 01 dDOr wllhln lho CIly limit.. A
copy 01 . loga' opinion roglrdlng lhl. mlllor Js II'
llchod.
121 MomOtandum Irom lho Trllllc Englnoer rogardlng
parking mOI.r ZOllO on lho WOII sldo Ollho .oulh holl
01 200 Soulh Dubuquo StrDOl.
h. AppllcatlOlllIOt UIO 01 Stroll. ond Public Grounds.
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III AppllcllJon Irom Hlblllt lOt Humlnlly 10 p1ICO I
"Ihock" on 011O parking .paco on lho lot ad)acontlO
lho HoIldlY 1M HOIOI on April 28.28, 1882. lip.
Il/ov.dl
121 AppllclUon Irom Clrousal MOIOf. lOt UIO ollronl.go
rood lOt a car wOIh 10 bonolll Sludonl. Against Drunk
Driving on April 11, 1892. (approvadl
Applications lor Clly Plm UIO P.rmll'.
III ApplIcation Irom Slgml Aipha Mu lor UII 01 chocker.
board .quaro .rOllor a bllk.lblU bouncIng ov.nllo
benolll Am.rlcln Hoarl AISOCllUon on All/II 13.17,
1892. (approvodl
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121 Appliclllon from lllln AmOllcln Hum.n Rlghll
Advoc.cy Conlor 10 101 up I llblo on Clly Pl.lIlrom
which 10 dllulbulO ~llr'luro .nd ollor crlllslOt dOlll'
11011I during tho porlod 01 All/II 1.7, 1882. Ilpll/Ovtdl
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END OF CONbENT CALENDAR
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ITEM NO.4.
PlANNINO AND ZONlNO MAnERS.
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Commonl: Allis All/II 2, 1882, mOIling. by I VOII 0/4.0.1
IGlblon Obllolnlngl, lho Pllnnlng ond Zoning Commllllon
rocommondod opll/ovII 01 0 Clly.lnlllllod propoullO rOlono
lho lubloCl Unlvorllly.ownod proporty Irom RM.148, High
Rllo Mulll.Flmlly ROIldonllll, ond CI.l, Inlonllvo Commorclol,
10 p, Public. Thll rocommondlllon Is conllllonl Wllh lho sloll
rocommond'llon.
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Courtn~y I Movw by Ambr, ,,,",ondo;-<1 bv Horo,," DISCussI-;,n
Horow! Would you hke'o ~l:pla1O 3NUt-
Courtney! I WOUld hk", to pull 'Jut for ;",paraw ~xplanat1on lUom f ':) J
r~solution on the ;tr""t ,onstruction program
KUbby! Do W~ n'*<l a motIon to do that
Karr I Do you want to d~leUo It :rom tM ag~nda
Courtn~y! lwm f ( I)
I tlunk we have had somE- mlsmtormatlOn mculat",j Ulrough the
commumty today on thiS partiCUlar Iwm that It deals spe<:lfically With
the Kirkwood ReconstructIOn that we dlscussw last mght And It 10
fact does have that item Includwln It that there IS Intended to be a
reconstruction of Kirkwood How.;v~r In that It;.,m It doesn't hst any
Specl!lc sp.-cl!lcations It merely says that th.;r~ Will be varying
Widths and doesn't bInd any construction or sp.-clflcations on It And
there was some diSCUSSion today about haVing som~ pubhc Input on
this item, Really Without pnor notIfication of a pUbliC neanng so that
all parties involved could know about it, w~ r~ally can't do that SO W~
are g0l1lg to go ahead and vot;., on tile full consent calendar There,
how~ver, IS a place on the agenda IS someone would Iik~ to ha'l~ some
discussion of that particular topic 1 tern -5, Public DiSCUSSion, I would
say though that before the prole<:t starts th~re will b~ a PUbhc heanng
set, I am told about a month from now on the plans and specifications
for Kirkwood Ave And at that time ther~ Will be a full ph If
someone Wishes to glV~ some input tonight. that IS fine Although It
will be r~peated again if you don't want to go through It
Horow! Also prior to that tIme the staff WIll h~lp make arrang~m~nts fro
information for anyone who wants to attend in wrms of just exactly
what the specifications look like as they ar~ nght now
KUbbY! Sp.-cial informational meeting
Horowl Special Informational me~ting Will-perhaps W~ '..nil ha,',; It at Mark
Twain, But It Will be In the general neIghborhood We Will let as
many Interested people know Just let the staff know and they will
send you a notice, Or call me and I 'HIll g.;t a notice sent to you
Courtney I don't mean to cut ff any discussion on thiS It IS lust that we
can't move It back on the agenda and hav,; a phon It boKause there
are laws about publishing and notifying about phs ahead of time I
lust wanted to get that out
Larson! Just brtefly to furthH explain because! ',>lasn't sure '\Illy It was
being discussed last nigh ;>Ith;>r and the p;>opl~ that called m;> today
didn't get much of an explanation from me as 1.0 why It was b('tng
discussed It was lust part of a report tllat we He r""quued to glv.;. tc)
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t.he IDOT So 1t was ,)M A 25-)0 pro\~,ts it happ..n.;d to t..;o th~ ,'n..
that we w~nt mto ~onslderable detaIl about last mght M,auso?
obviously, It 1S ot great m~rest to many poNplo? mcludmg p..opl" on
th~ council. And so It lust b€<am", a tocus ,)t the newspa~r artlcl",
and y~t wnat we are votmg on tOlllght lS lust the so?ndmg 01 thIS
report to the state It 1oesn't bmd us :0 that kind ot program It
dOf.'Sn't de~rmine wnat WIdth Klrkwood IS gomg to M It dcesn't, m
tact, bmd us to do anythmg to Klrkwooo And that Will b., a separa~
topiC m about a month trom now tcr a ph It IS a little mlsleadmg to
say that Item "5 IS public busmess b~use there ar~ some 12 -13
zonmg matters Included m one of those Items bet ore that It may be
an hour or two ~tore pUblic business comes Th~re IS no way ot
~lIing
KUbby / I had OM other comment about the str~et constructIOn program and
that is on the Melrose 8ndg~ and Widening and that at tlle jCCOG
meeting tod~y w~ talked aoout thls a little bit and It seemed that tor
good commumcation r~asons It would be good to send a council
member with a statt perSQn to go to the UIIlV Hts, counCil to explain
the project and to get any-~tore specs are wntten up-to get any
special needs tor access that nelghoors on the Umv, Hts might have, I
think they are wanting Illtormation and I would be Willing to do that
or I just wanted to bring that up tonight as something we discussed,
Larson/The feedback Cram jCCOG to<lay Crom Univ Hts ,ounCllmember Ulere
Was that the staff p~rson that presented th~ matt.er last IIlght did not
have the answer to many oC thelI' questlOns and they thought It
appropriate that policy makers some to their meeting to discuss not
only the specifics or the program but also the time and the expense
and Ulose kinds or things
Courtney / Okay We WIll take that und~r advlsem~nt
Larson/ But the discussion about this Klrkwooo sturt last nIght It wasn't
meant to llappen WlUloUt mput rrom the publiC and It '''3S kind or a
quirk or the report bemg due at Ulis time that that happened So
those people Ulat asked how we call make all Ulose deCISions WlUlout
communlty Input, It wasn't meant to be that way and It Isn't bemg
handled that way I didn't really understand that today
Kubby / ! havo? one last Item about the consent ,:alendar and thIS under
correspondence, g (I) about tho> deer m cIty limits And 1 am v<?ry
glad Ulat we do?Clded as a (,)uncII not to allow bow hunting m ,)Ilr (Ity
limits 81lt one or the Uung, 'llat 1'1" (0'lld dc that would bot qUid: 10\'"
(,)st, and be helprul Wo)uld b~ to rut s(,me d~er ,:ross1llg 51~ns 111 plac~s
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that are typical places That are city streets Where we don't have to
ask IDOT permission ~ I would !lke council to t1unk about that
Larson/ It w.. could g..t a r..spons.. from our traffic .ngm....r about th..
advisability and Wheth..r that would h..lp
Atkins/ Sigmng IS traditionally not a prOblem Jim generally puts them out
I W1l1 wll you that they disapp€ar fairly quickly also
Courtlli"Y I O~r crossmg signs won't disappear as fast as duck crossing signs
Kubby / Put them on With somethmg that Is really difficult to tak.. off,
Atklns/ Last time th..y took the pole and all
Larson/ Give it a try
Courtney / Any other discussion on the consent calendar
Roll call (yes)
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c. PIlbllc hoarlng on .n Otdlnonco amondlng lho Zoning Ordl.
nonc. by chonglng lho uso rogulallonl 01 In Ipll/oxlm.l. 27
Icro tr.Cl 01 I.nd locOlod on lho nOtlh sldo 01 RochollOr
Avenuo, tilt 01 Sl. Them.1 Courl. from ID.RS to OPDH.8, I
1=t#!im!r.:IV ~ Ocv:!~l HMlno (POHI p/!n 101
Rocholllr Hills, 10wI Clly, 10wI. a.8110 Ind S.81281.
Common!: At lis mOIling 01 Morch 8, 1882, lho Pl.nn1ng Ind
Zoning CommIlslon, by . VOlO 01 4.2 (Gibson Ind Clorkl
vollng nol, rocommondod ,pll/ovII, lub/OCllO condillonl, 01
a proposal lubmlllod by Bill Happel lOt I prollmlnory Pllnnod
Oovelopmonl .nd llrgo SCllo Rosldonll.1 Dovelopmont p1ln
known IS Rochollor HiIIl, I 32.unIt, rosldonllal dovelopmont
loc'IOd on lho .ub/Oct IrICl. Tho SummllY RoPQtt, dalod
Mlrch 18, 1882,lncludlllho Commllslon'l rlcommond.llon.
Tho 11111 rocommondlllons Includod In lho roPQtt dllld
Docombor 8, 1891 Ind In I momOt.ndum dllOd Fobtuory 20,
1882, Indlcolo Ila"'l concorns rogordlng lho dovolopmonl 01
. Itroot nolwOtk In lho nOtlholll PQtllon ollho cllY. Com' '
monll concornlng lho dovolopmonl propo..1 woro rocolvod by
tho Council Illho Morch 31, 1882, publiC holllng. TNI
holrlng hu boon conllnuod Irom lhol dllO.
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nonco by chonglng lho Ilnd UIO rogulallons 01811 S. Modlson
SI.lrom P 10 CI.l. IZ.91081,
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Common!: Allll Mlrch 18. 1892, mOIling, by. VOlO 014.0,
lhl Pllnnlng ond Zoning Commllllon rocommond~d ,pll/oval
01 I Clly./nlllalod Il/OpOSallo rozono lho .ub)OCl prlVIloly.
ownod property Irom lho P, PIlbllc Zono, 10 lho CI.l, Inlonslvo
Commorclll Zono. Thll rocommondallon Is conslllonl wllh
lho 11011 IOcommondlllon Includod In lho ropOtl dalod Morch
18,1882.
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Courtlk,',' This ph ha; l).?~n ..ontlnued lr,'m,IlT Mal' n ): :n~~tlng
I'd 11i:~ to r~pen the ph
Paula Brandtl 02.. N GlIl).?rt, I want I1rst of all to thank tM develop"r, for
op"nlng up tIlelT opttons And mal:mg )tIl"r .;,;,nsld"ratlons 1 tlunk
that says a lot tor '.h"m And! know '.hat :hos" N us WIl" ar" WIth
HistorIc Pr"s"rvatlon appro;.;lat€> '~'lat How~v.;.r w" -:10 hav"" s""v"ral big
concerns The fIrst of tIl..se IS that we nav~ to 3,t sImply on falUl tllat
tllese tolks wIlo pr~vlOusly have not ;ho....ll any mte-r"5t m k*pmg
tlle house on SIt€> and pres..rvlng It on Sit.. ue no'" gOing to make a
good faith etrort to s,,1l the prop€'rty $0 that's som"thtng Wit lUSt have
to trust that they're really gomg to senousty, aggr"sslv..ly took for
somo?OnE> to buy it $0 Wit hope that they're successful of course But
tlle second big concern IS the pnc.. My understanding IS tIlat theY're
going to be aSking $95,000-$ 100,000 for thiS bOUS<> Now that's hardly
a handy p€'rson's Sp€'Clal I'm concorned that th.. pme could put off
prospectlve buyers So WIlat I'm bOptng IS tllat Wltlun tlle agr€'t>ment,
the developers WIll be flexible, lust as tn the real world, tIley'r.. trying
to sell a property and it's not selling at that pnce, that aft€>r a coupt..
of months, you have to make adjustm"nts and say, w"l1 maybe w"
don't have to make qwte as big of a profit maybe we can make a little
less profit and sel1 the ho~oe for a I1We less I hope that that IS stil1 an
option, Thank you
courtney I Thank you
Kubby I Unda, in terms of those W<Jrds, good falth ,,!fort, does adjusting the
price after a c"rtam amount of time fal1 In ~o thos,," the legal sens~ of
those words'
Gentry I Not necessarily It'll- If you real1y wanted to test It, do It In terms of
how a court would view It under al1 tll~ Clfcumstanc"5, depending on
the market, how many po?Ople had 'Mwed It, I mean you'd have to
look at every tiling
And if for WIlatever reason, we felt that tile conditions were not met,::.at
are the recourses or consequence?
Gentry / then we su" tn court for bNach of zOning agreement The city has
that optlon
Horowl It seemed to me thQugh, In the course of the diSCUSSion about this
that we all asked al1 parties Involved to work nard to sell It, so that
the Fnends of Histone Preservatlon and ev~rybody else ...'110 IS
Interested in saving thIS hous~ would wor!:. WIth t.h.;> d';>'Jeloper to
actively, to r.;>acll that. good faltll ~ffor'. ! c~rt.alnly !lope that t1lat
would be part of the whole pICture as ';/,,11
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Novl So do I
Gentry I It's my und~rstandmg that tM agr~ement was worKe,j "ut alter a
number 01 counCil m~mbHS, Histone ~res~rvauon persons. lnd :he
develop.>rs all sat In a room and dlscuss~ all tlUs and gave me a hst
of conditlons they had agreed on And tlus IS What's III th" agreement
Ambr I The prop.>rty owners can certainly sp~aK 1 x thems~lves This
councillor und~rstood that tlle agr~~ment- tll~ t9~"OOO IS not lor
negotlatlon. That's a firm pnce And tll" prop~rty IS gomg to remam on
tll~ block for six months If It Isn l sold after that, it WIll r"mam on tll",
block for SIX montlls and the property owner WIll h~lp them mov~ It
off I think that you should be made p~rfo1Ctly clear about that, Miss
Brandt I don't tlUnk th~ price IS SUbJect to n~gotlation In trymg to
look at tll" rational" of the d"v~lop~r, and I hav~ no hard"n~d
knOWledg~ of thiS L"t's assum" that tlleY'v~ mv~sted about
$20,000/acre Just to acqutr" tll~ prop~rty which would put th" ov~ral1
purchase pric" at 1/2 million As I und~rstand It from the oth"r ph,
th~ typical condominium valu" IS gomg to start at $160,000, going up
to 1220,000 So in order to mak~ thiS historic bUilding habltational, I
would think that th~ n"w own~r woUld hav~ to put at I~ast another
150-60,000 into it Wlllch would then put it right m the median range
of the property that surrounds It If this development happens.
Larson/ Bill, I think you're corro1Ct, although I don't think that pnce for th~
house Is necessarily the price after it IS moved I thlnK-
Ambr / It's two <:lifferent numb~rs
Larsoni That's right. I lust di<:ln't want to glv~ pe()pl~ the Impression It'S
worth that And I "''ant to mal:~ sur" ~ple don't g~t the wrong
impr~ssions from our City attorney's comments Naomi and i wer~ the
two p~ople at the meeting just ~us~ of schedules. I don't think it
was something Where the city council was negotiating With the
d~v~loper and th~ Histone Pr~s~rvatiomsts or anythmg ~Is~ to start to
strlk~ a d~al It was 1n Informatlonal m~etlng We were ther~ in out
official capaciti~s an, 110t really trymg to sp~ak for th~ Whole council
My f~~ling was that th~ lot which IS gomg to be used f')r thiS house if
it is r~furblshed or pres~rv~d, lusUl1~s th~ "ast malority 01 th~ pme
It is on of the nicest r~sldentiallots m th~ city In lact all 01 the county
or more Because of ~xact1y th~ thmgs that make It worthwhll~, th~
tr*s and th~ h1lls and ~"erything else, 1 thought that What Mr Happel
was offermg and wasn't som~thmg we were demandmg so much as h~
"''as offering, was a reasonabl~ compromise gl"~n the lact that, I don't
thmK p~ople w'Jre saymg okay you'v~ lust got to tak.. a $100,000 or
$200,000 hit on your d'J"",lopment II you want It to be r",zon'Jd I don't
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t.lUnk tllats appropna~ ne.:"ssanly My mdlvldual Vl;.W as a ,;oun(11
member IS tnat tllat wouldn't be appropnare to say V"S th" r"zonmg
you asked tor IS appropnare tor tIl", land use, but you can t do It
unless you do tills otller tlllng. and It's gomg to cost you an extra
couple of hundred tllousand dollars, or Wllarever What! t.'lought ',.;as
appropnare was to torc", 111m to .o>xplore WlJether that house (ould be
preserved, Whether the market would gIve hun any tiling to
compensate tor the loss, And h",'s having to delHe two $220,000
Condominium ulllts to leave tll" house Wller.o> It IS. One of those urnts
may 00 able to be replaced In the developm"nt and one may not In
tact they both aught not be So I tllought It was appropnare to asl to
explore tllat. I tIl1nk what's wen reached IS a reasonable comprollllse,
despite the price be.:ause 1f tlle dev€>lopers Wllo art? mrerested In tllat
house and tllt?re are several, to make It work tlnanclally Wlth the
additions and evt?rytlling. tIlat they'd have to add on to It Then I
thlllk tlley'll make It known to interested groups In tlle communIty
that they need some financial help to make It work, And I hopt? that
the people who've b%n mvolved. I think WlJat's Important to note is
that the developer's oftt?nng the house He's oftenng a very beautltul
lot to go Witll it And that's Wlly, I don't want prospective buyers or
anyone to be scared ott by that price tllat was mentioned, because you
don't just get that little house You get all tlle Site that goes With It
That's Wlly that price has to be that, I shouldn't say you get it in terms
ot owning It It IS gOing to be a (ondominium, so the ',mole association
is going to own the land, You get It in tllt? sense that tllat is the setting
ot the house So my ~rs~tlve on the me"tmg was ~ reached a
pretty tair compromise It certainly Isn't as far as could 00 reached,
We could've just requIred him, it he wants it to be rezono:d, to ko:ep
that house. I don't know Whether there's sentiment tor that extreme a
view on tlle council, and so I was not askmg that Nobody was at tlle
meeting
Nov / I think it's unportant tllat this will be part of tlle condommlum, And
the people who choose to buy tllis thiS hous" and returblsh it are
gOing to hal'o: to be part of tho: homo:owners assocIation and contribure
Whatever anybody o:lso: contribures But then agam, they go:t all tlle
so:rvices too,
Courtney / Any otller input trom the PUblIC?
KUbby / I like how our phs get turned ar,)und Mre I'd Ill:..,. plenty of Ume to
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ran Nash/ I s"nt a :"tt."r t<:> .;.v"ly,)n" ('II th" ((,un"l lnd : ,j ilk.;. tv r"ad tJiat
I..tter for th~ public r"cord IIvW ir..ads I..tt..r \
And I'd ldd on.;. .;omm~lIt 1''1';' ;.;."n .,.~, ;!V; pl~n; OI.J it ""asn l untll
th\i v\iry last SIt.;. plan that I ''I.. s....n that any n..w constru>:tron was on
th.. site of thiS .;ottag... Pnor Sit.. plans had all th.. Units arranged m
dlff>?r..nt places, so th..r..'s the poSSlblllty of no loss accordmg t<:> the
site plans I've s..en
Kubby / Can w>? g..t some ,:lariflcatlon, elthH from the dev~lo~r are
attorn..ys th.. on>?s to ask about onc.. the >:ottage IS added ,)II to and
finished, are th.;. same kmd of mamtenance r"'lUlrem..nts the sam>? for
other bUildings as th>? cottage)
Gentry/ Bill? I can tell you What I drafted from the notes I was glv>?n
Namely that there Will be addlttonal marntenance costs for the
Haddock Hous>? over and above, as r understand It, the typical
homeowner's association I assume that's basl'<! on additronal
mamtenance costs becausE' of the ag" I don't know
Bill Happel/~55 WilloWbrook Lane Karen, m address you're question. the
reason for the specIal conditrons maintenance on thts partrcular house
is that first of all, all of the condommiums WIll be mamtenance free
type constructron of bnck, stone, vmyl or ste>?l sldmg The house IS a
wood frame house and Will therefor d>?fimtely tak>? more maintenanc>?
costs through the years and we are not r>?strictrng th.. addition t'lat
Will probably be added to that hous>? to be vmyl or brick or whau.v..r
It could be wood structure so it '..rould blend in With the historic
house. We don't feel that the condommium association should be
reliable to repair that house or keep it maintenance. It'd structure
completely, and I thmk that your costs WIll go up
Kubby That answers my question, thank you
Happel/ I would Uke to take a second and gOOd back and answer a few of th..
things Ulat Jan has brought up. ObVIO'lSly I was someWhat
disappointed in r~elving a copy "f th" I"tt?r that sh" wro~" to tll"
council after our me..ting I had thought thJt w>? had corne 1:<) an
agreement Two weeks ago lsp..nt a gr..at d..al of time befor>? makmg
the offer to me>?t agam to fmd anoth..r solution Trymg to >?xplam the
differ..nce b..tw..en condommlUm lIvmg and a smgl.. famIlY Ilvmg.
And again sh>? bnngs up that t~at IS J d..fmlt" detnment t(, th.. s.;.lllng
of this hous>? Mcaus>? It do>?sn't own :he prop~rW III ".,tHch tho?
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,;ondommlUm SIts I 'llvugnt tIlat I ma.j" 'n~t ""ry :I.-ar tIlat :t.lt ',:as
)ne or tht? probl~ms tbat ! hdd In )tf~nng ':.hIS h(}U~,o:- tr)! sal~ : r. '.,,'Quld
lImIt tIl~ r.<JIIl:;"': vI p""pl.. wnc. Illlgm buy tlus nous.. b.;.caus~
condomlwum 1111mg Isn t tor "v..ryon.;. com.,. p".opl.. don t hk.. It I
tnw to ~xplalU tIlat two w.,.,.ks ~ge ;co I am sur.. '.hat ....'as und..rstoo.j
That tIlat ....ould ~ 3 pre.bl..m
Nov I I thmk tIlos.. ot us up h~r.. ,jld undHstJM It
Happ~ll I tIlmk so But ~g3m I was llsappomti?'j ll. '~'l" l"tt.?r Sh" bnngs It
out ~gam And mayb" ;;ho;. wasn't llst.?nlng at tho;. b::no;. I tIlc,ught that
I made tIlat very clear As tar as tile price I thml; Randy pr..tty well
lut It on the head, This parbcular house do." oil. 0n a SIt.? Where we
had two condomlUlUms planned Th.. more w.. discuss..d thIS
partJcular site, the mvr.. '/aluable It g"ts I t IS a chvlc" spot III Ic,',.;a
CIty Ther.. IS no questl9n about It It IS ncot out ot lme You ar..
getting the hous.. fro:e1h..land IS wortll mor.. than a $100.000 The
hous.. ther.. is not a p..nny IU tIlat cost as tar as th.. house m
conc..rnw, I would lik.. to giv.. you lust a tew comparables I hav..
trusted them and I hope they WIll trust m.. In a subdivision nght to
the east of this land. And John IS here toOlght, It IS hiS dellelopment
and h.. can cont..st It. There ar.. lots that sold for $50.000-$55,000
To the west Behmd Regma High SCllvol there IS a new dellelopm..nt
and some ot those lots range abov.. $50,000 y.)U go out to Lak..wood
Hills m Coralllme Th..re are lots there trom $50,000-$100,000
Walnut. Ridge- OlJt on Me-lrose A'!"', you WIll rtnd lots from $55,900 to
$64-65,000 Gallway Hills acre.ss th.. str~t to the south ot Walnut
Ridge on Melrose-there are lots vt $55,01)0 ThIS partJcular hlstonc
house and WIth the addition WIllch I am sure anyone Who would
purchase this house to live m as a condommium uOlt woUld add on to
it and v.ilth that addltJon they are tal:mg up the area ot two lots I am
not embarrassed at all about that pnce put ,~n that partiCUlar site As
tar as marketJng the home, I Will guarantee, you ha"~ my word, I Will
give my word to the council that W~ WIll do "very thing possible to sell
the hom~ as a condomllllUm Ulllt Y~s, ther~ WIll b som~ probl..ms and
I l:now that That IS on.. oi tile reasons, anel agalll I say I "lalt.?ct s.)
long to make thiS otf~r to s~ll th~ Unit as ~ .;ondomllllUm Ulllt. But we
Will do "verytlllllg we can III SIX months I v.illl guarant.?e that ~nd wo?
Will market It as we would any other l1stJng tha t We had
NOIIII WOUld like to make on.. more ,:omm.;ont along ~ose Un"s b.;ocause I
talked to somebody 0n our hIstone r"s~rvabon C0mmlSSlon who was
';oncern",j about tll;> pn(;> b~calJs", Ill:s I'",rs',n ''>IaS '.'mpanng tll"
pnce toO an old"r hous" ':<n a .:,)nstrlJct".j ;tr,,~t And w" had ',) r,.nullo
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h..r that thiS hous.. pnc.. ~lw nas to shar.. 'll.. ':'jS~ A putting m th~
str~t. s"w"r Iln..s, and "'a~r IIn~ and all ,)( th.,. ,.th.,.r thmgs that th..
oth"r ,ondonl1n1um own"rs .lre gOing to shar" and w" lust n"oo thiS
~n publiC r~ord
Happ"l/ I thmk you are nght. Naomi Is en"r" any )th..r iU.?St!vn that
council has 'm111~ I lm her.. It n~t ! r.;.ally ~>lant co thank Naomi and
Randy (or attP.ndlng that m~t1ng Th..lr mput ....'as nluabl" I
thought that tll.. m~~t1ng was,ucc"Ss(ul I ("It w" aC(oIIlpllShOO at
l..ast at thiS tiJne WIlat w~ s~t vut to .jo And agam, I know that Jan..,
]acki" and mys"U-you hav" two fine r"al ~sta~ !Irms Mr" In IO....'a
City WIlo will actively market thiS nom.. In th" n..:tt six months On.. o(
our first conc..rns was how do w.. handl.. and off..r that would com~ In
and tie up thiS particular purchas.. of thiS hous~ for any length of
time. Someone com.. In and make an off..r ObViously It IS gOing to be
subject to archlte<:tural improv..m..nts and they ar~ going to have to
take som" tim.. to get tllat b..for.. th..y Will release those type of
contingencies Their !Inancmg may o.e- basw vn the addition and they
are not gomg to go to that "^'j)ens.. WithOut knOWUlg that they have
the land tied up W.. are not gomg to l"t th..m tie that land up for SIX
months. So we only hav.. one pot€-ntiaJ buy..r III that six month
period. It is our lob to limit that to th.. shortag~ penod of time and
take backUp offers behind that so that If they aren't able or don't see
there way through in a Umited amount o( Urn.. to go through With the
purchas.. of th.. house, we stilll1ave time to go ,m to tile second or
third potP.ntiaJ. This is a conc..rn of ours and we will not tie up that
property for any lengtll of time for any buy..r
Horow/ Bill. I just want to reiterate that I'm trusting you that you ar.. going
to take any and all sugg..stions (rom m..mbers o( tile historic
preservation community to assist you III truly really worlang out the
good faith ..ffort o( selling th.. nos.. Anybody that llas any
suggestions, get to you
Happel/ We w..lcome tIlelr help in marketing It
Larson/ The prosp~tive buyers need to bo? put mto commumcation of those
peop!.. by you too In case they don't know WIlo tllOSe Int€-rested
parties are Tllere may be som.. help I lla~ to seoi' you get to a last
minute tll1ng wllen~ things ar" llurnoi'd So th"y may need to get In
toucll With th..m ..arly on I would ask tlle publiC to r...;ogmz" that
t.nIS isn't a situation 'h'1lE'r9 thE' dE'V91oper has to do any o( th..se thmgs
H.. .:ould hav.. saved lllmself tillS E'ntlre llea<:!acll.,. by bUlldozmg th..
llouse H.,. .;ould do tllat ',.morr')W In fact
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Larsvn,' \V~ hav~n't .jon~ tnt-' fo?ZI)nmg ! am 'u,;t ;.a~'mg t...~~r v-.t1'l:"n Y')!J k,,~~
at .....Th~th~r 15 1S :lppropnatl? tor :(lun(11 tv -:-xt..enJ tll-:-s"f pr(:'nus~'S .jn
good faith ..!forts, i thmk that Yvu hav" t)) 1wl: at th.. fa,; that (!It-
d..v..lop.>r has shown tho>.. good laltl', ..florts H~ <vuld hav.. r..mov.;.:!
thiS ';;hol.. headach" months agv H.. has Shown that hiS r"putatlvn IS
unportant to hun Thank you
Courtn!~Y/ Mov"d 3nd s"cond<?1 (Ambr. Larson) to acc€'pt corr..spond€'nc"
All m favor ( ay-.s)
Doug Russell! Chair c,f th.. Histone Pr"soervatlon Commission ',,,1'u.;h m..t
"arher thiS evenmg I atwnde<:! the meetmg last week ....'1th .;ertam
members of the <Ity counctl, W1tlllvlr Hap~l and the other
develo~rs. And wIlat the m..etmg produce<:! was a compromise
proposal for tlle consld"ratlon of the city council And I aske<:! that tll...
City council follow tlle detatls ot tlle proposal and tlle execution and
honoring of the proposal v"ry carefully Because you are now tlle
responsible omcers of the government to do that The P /Z Comm
.;annot and the Historic PrE-S..rvatlon Comm cannot I want to
emphaSize tllat good faJth IS tll.. k.,.y to tll.. .,.ntlre agreement and you
should 00 satisfte<:! that there IS good faith m fact m every step of thiS
compromise proposal and the way It IS execuwd It must be good
faith in setting the purchase pnce in th.. first plac.. and council should
ask itself wilen It mak..s thiS deciSion-Is $9~.OOO ior tllat lot With an
additional <ost for additional land If any IS added to It Wltll a
additional requirement that the owner of tllat partl<ular condomlr.!um
unit pal' for tlle maintenan<e for tllat stru<ture ~parately from tlle
condommium agr*ment and Wltll tlle additional requirement that
that owner bt- a part of that condominium association. Paying
membership dues to maintam buildings tllat he or sh... does not hve m.
You should insist tllat tll"r" be good faltll m marketing tllis building
m tlle ftrst SIX montlls And It we tall you should inSiSt tllat tllere b"
good fa1tll efforts to hav" tll<? stru<tur€> mov>e<llf It com<?s down to
that And you should mSlst Uuough your staff and t.hrough your
voting tllat th..r€> b.. good (altll in t.h<? way tlle plan IS drawn for thiS
condomiOlum d"velopment Look at all tlle drafts of tlle proposal
How many condominIUm UOlts 'mil b" r€>pla<ed by saving thiS cottage
[ hOp€> tllat good faith WIll Includ" .;onslderatlon of alternatll'"s should
a buyer not com€> forward S00n ()n€> .)( tll€>s€> might b", to let som<?on€>
renovate tlle structure Someone like fn>?nds of Hlston( Pr~servation,
perhaps Then ha"€' It. 1pprals€>d An(\ '.Mn sell 1nd n"gc"11tP. 'Jpon 3
different purchas<? pm>? If It comes to tllat If thf' blllldlOg ';I~r"
r.;-nonted bdor.. It was ;(,1<1 p.;-rllaps Mr Happd would r>?all.>? a
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r~nlt"mber to to<:us r.h4t the- gval to mak~ all ,)I rJ'U$ \-IfQrk. IS t".c, pr€'s~rv~
t.'!e cottage Another alwrnauve that may be -:0nsldere-j by you vr the
,jev..lvp"rs dunng the SIX mvnth p;;nvd IS If a buyer 15 nvt avallabb at
that pur~hase pnce ",nslder negouaung a fau marki't value to sell
that prol...:t at 'HIth agr""m>?nts '.hat tM buyer do certam t!ungs
Such as are outlm€'<l m thIS proposal 'Jnderstandmg that thIS
l"'1uuem..nt t.hat may latAi'r be add..d would mean that W1tho'lt sa'llng
th.. cottage that th",re ....ould b.. no approval .of the .vlllng r""lu..st
The thIrd alternative whIch I Mp~ everyone ....'llk""p m ffi1nd IS that
there can always be additional m,*ungs Whether thIS ~ompromls~
proposal IS approved tomght or not approvo;ct tolllght, ..veryone Who
was in the room last w..el: met m good faith and partiCipated In a
fnendly way And I thmk In a most constructive ".;ay So I nope that
the dev"lop;;rs and th" councilors and others Will not be sny about
m*ting again If there are some details that nee<! to be workw out Or
it is doesn't look like the cottage is gomg to be sav"d And my r~ason
for saying all of tillS IS not to reneg~ on an agreem"nt B"cause I tI11nk
there is a compromise proposal for your conSideration but there was
no vote on the agr"ement With th~ developers I don't think that th"
participants in the m"eung w"re "mpowered to do that So the vot~ m
tomgnt But I ask the council to remember to focus on thIS good faith
issue, To focus on th.;> pUblic good To focus on the l"gltimate
community interest on saving that cottage on Ulat SIte WhH.;> it IS
locat~ now And to focus on r.;>qulflng conditions that can reasonable
b~ calculated to put that commumty mter"st mto affect And that IS to
save the cottage that the Haddocks built there Thank you
Kubbyl And Doug, lust for your Information and everybody ~Ise's, we are
not actually voting on this tomght I am not qwte sure why But we
ar>? not voung It \\1111 be m two w~k.s I am assummg
Russ>?llf That Is all the better It v"m glv>? the opportunity for additional
meetings If clarittcation were requested But when the Ume fro th"
vote comes, Ulat is what I hop>? my .;omm"nts ar>? dlr.;.:tE>d toward
Larsonl The concept of addItIonal compromises <)r mi;>>?tings rals"s a qUi;>stlon
whether to continue Ule Martmg lust III cas"
Courtney II was a ltttle uncertam as to why th>?re wasn't an Item on Ul"
agenda for a vote tonight, tov
G>?ntry I I don't kn0w YOI) ".,olJld naw w ask ~!Iolll(a Thi;> 3greem"ot IS
slgn>?d
Moenl At the time that the Jg>?llda was set th"re.....as ur.,;ertamty ,)5 to
wlleUl>?r or ovt tillS p II would be ';0ntlllu~ 'x (J.)S".j ,)!l,j t.ase.j ')!l
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KUbby! Just to w sal~ I ","'ould ake us tv .;ontlnue th~ ph
larson/ No r..asvn not to and !SINn th.. fad that w.. nav.. cl~layo;.d Ill...
developer by two w~~ks b;, l..avmg It otl tomght If '..e did have a
change and had to s..t p h m two weeK" we would be d..laymg hIm
another two weeks I don't thinK :t hurts anythmg to delay,deler or
.;ontinue the ph
Courtney! ( am not qUlw sure What changes you anttc:pata
Larson! I don't
Kubby / Who knows What can happen
Larson/ I don't anttclpaw any either
Nov / We do hav.. a signed agreement Do you really think that :s gOlllg to
get changed
KUbby / Just m case somethmg should shllt Just that outside posSlb:lIty that
it doesn't delay things
Larson/ I am only Viewing the dev..lopers Intert'St at this pomt Illt d:d
change it ....-ould then delay It for another two weeks
Happel/ I don't quiw understand why It wasn't on the agenda My
understanding was. That was one 01 the reasons I urged an early
meettng afwr the last council meettng to get together so that we could
go 10rNal"d WIth tile first r..ading I don't have any Idea wIlat Changes
would be. That's as far as I think I can go That:s it I thought that
we had an agreement I Illought-nothmg IS going to change m two
weeks that I can see
Larson/ I understand and that IS line It should have b..en on the agenda
tonight in my opinion It lust didn't get there What I am worrying
about is that il we close the ph. torught Even If it is unlt!:€-ly that
some change was mad.. in the agreement Then two weeks Irom
tonight we wouldn't b<? able to vota on It agam either W", would have
to have another p.h to changE' the agreement I don't thin!: that the
agreement is likE'ly to I)E' .;hangE'd
Happel/ We have signed it It:s m the attorney's hands
Nov / We are all surpnsed that It IS not on the agenda
Kubby / I would like to move to conttnue thE' ph
Court.ney / In absence of a second. motion d:es
I close the ph
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Consldor In Otdlnonco .mondlng lho Zoning Oldinonco by
changing lho I.nd UIO rogul.llOlll 01 811 S. Modllon Str.Ol
from P 10 Cl.l, IZ.910811Fi111 conaldollllonl
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Commonl: Soollom d. lbovt. SI.1I11 roquolllng expedltod
~ol!en ollhb ordinonet.
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Public ho.rlng on In Otdlnonco Imonding lho Zoning Ordl.
nonco by Imondlng Socllon 38.78111121 roglldlng perlOtm.nco
'l.ndardsIOt bulk 'IOt.go olllamm.blo Uquldl Ind chemlc.ls.
Commonl: On Morch 18, 1882, by . YOlO 01 4.0, tho
P1.nnIng Ind Zoning Commllslon IOcommondod ,pll/ovol olin
.mondmonl 10 I..mpl lho Zoning Ordlnonco rogullllon 01
undlrglound bulk IlOtlgo olll.mm.blo Ilqu1dsllsoclllOd with
.utomobilllOMcO IllllOllllnd glr.gos. Tho locI lion Ollholo
l.clllllOl .rl 1l/000nlly rogulllod by lho UnllOtm Filo Cod..
ThII rocommondlllon II conslllonl Wllh InIOtm.llon Iubmlllod
by 11111 .nd conlllnod In lho Council packel.
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g, Consldor .n Otdlnonco .mondlng lho Zoning Ordlnonco by
omonding 8<<llon 38.7601121 rOOllding porlOllNllCo Ilandl/dl
lOt bulk SIOtlgo ollllmm.blo Ilqu1dl .nd chomlclls, IFlrll
consldorollonl
Commonl: SOl 110m I obovo. In. 101l0r dllOd Morch 27,
1892, D.vld V. NOtdllrom, V1co Prosldonl 01 NOtdslrom 011
Company, roquolll oxpodllod conlldorlllon ollhls .mond.
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Courtney I Tills Will be first consld~ratton
Moved by Ambr, se(onded by Horow DiscussIon
Ambr I I no~ the applicant has requested "A~itiod consIderation, But 11
council is m that mode t....-o weeks from now we could collapse It.
Courtney I PJghl TypIcally we do that on se(ond and tIllrd rather than first
and Se(ond.
Any other discussion
Roll call- (yeses)
The ordinance is gIven first consIderation
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April 14. 1992
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h. Consider an ordinance providing that general property taxes
levlad and coUected each year on aU property located within
the Northgate Corporate Park Urban Renewal Project Area,ln
the City of Iowa City, County 01 Johnson, State of Iowa, by
and ror the benalit of the State 01 Iowa, City of Iowa City,
County of Johnson. Iowa City Community School District and
other taxing districts, be paid to a special fund for payment of
principal and Interest on loans, monies advanced to and
Indebtadness, Including bonds Issued or to ba Issued,lncurred
by said City in connection with said urban renewal redevelop-
ment project. (Second consideration)
Comment: Consideration and adoption of this. ordinance
would establish a Tax Increment financing (TIF) program for
the Northgate Corporate Park Urban Renewal Project Area.
The ordinance directs aU tax Increment revenues to be made
available to the City lor repayment of project related expens-
es. The tax Incremant derived Irom the proposed project
would be used to retire the principal and Interest on a
$500,000 bond end to pay lor the administrative costs
Incurred In setting up the program. No comments were
received at the March 31. 1992, public hearing on this
proposed ordinance.
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Consider an ordinance amending Chapter 36, entitled "Zoning
Ordinance" of the Code of Ordinances of Iowa City, lowe, to
permit leased parking by religious Institutions located In RM-
145 or PRM zones. (Second consideration)
Comment: At Its meeting 01 March 5. 1992. the Planning and
Zoning Commission recommended, by a vote of 5-1 (Cook
voting no). approval of amendments to the RM-145 zone and
the PRM zone parmlttlng, as a provisional use, that religious
Institutions with parking areas existing prior to March 1,
1992, located In an RM-145 zone or PRM zone within 300
feat or a commercial zone may leasa up to and Including two-
thirds of the parking spaces In those existing parking areas.
The Commission's recommendation Is conslstant with the
stall recommendation sat lorth on March 5. 1992. Com-
mants Irom Rev. Roy Wingate of Gloria Del Lutheran Church
were received by the Council at the March 31. 1992, public
hearing on this Item. In a letter dated March 12, 1992. Kevin
Monson. on behalf 01 Gloria Del Lutheran Church, requests
expedltad consideration 01 this ordinance.
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Courtney II wli~v~ W~ hav~ a r~ qu~st (or "xp.KliW consld"ratlon o( tillS
Moved by Ambr. seconded by KUbby to collapse tile se<:ond and tIllrd
considerations
Discussion
Roll call-lye' es)
Moved by Ambr. seconded by Horow (or (mal adoption
Discussion.
Kubby I I wanted to make one quick comment One ot tile religiOUS
Institutions has said tIlat tIley would voluntarily pay a pro-rated
payment in lieu o( tax~s Kind ot to tile city (or tIlat comm~rclal us~ o(
tIlat property, And I want to encourage otller r~ligious IOstitutions it
tIley d&ctde to use tIleir parking lots in tIlat way tIlat tileI' would also
voluntarily pay tIlose payments 10 lieu ot tax~.
Courtney I Any other discussion.
Roll call-(yeses)
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Clly,lowl. ISUB92,OOO31 160-dlY IImltlllon porlod: walvodl
Commont: On Mlrch 18, 1882, by . VOlO 01 4.0, lho
PlIMlng Ind Zoning Commllslon rocommondod Il/ollmlnlry
.nd IInII pltl'PIl/OVII ollho lubloCl parcol,ll0.48 'CIO, 84-
101 rosld.nll.llubdivlslon locolld 0111 01 WOII Sldo Drive Ind
nOtlh 01 E.rl Rood, lubltcllo conltrucllon drlwlngl, gIlding
pllns, and Iroalon control plonl bolng opprovod by 1M Public
WOtU Dopartmonl Il/IOt 10 CllY Council consldor'llon 011ho
IppIlclllon. Tholo condillon. hovo boon IIlllllod. Tho
CommIlslon'a rocommondlllon II consl.lonl with lho 11I11
roPOtl d.lod FObtullY 20, 1882.
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Courtney I Movo,id by Nov so;<onded by Horow DIscussion
Kubby I This Whole re-subdlvldmg !las really s!lown me how compllcated
tlungs are getUng When we get neighborhoodS mvolved, they are
ge-ttlng morol vo<:ai. That means that deve-lopers are needmg to be and
the city IS needing to be more commurucatlve WIth neIghborhoods and
maybe we can learn from all of this and remember to commumcate at
tM front end of tlllngs I see ~ple In the back of the room There IS
another example about Kirkwood WIlere we need to do better
communication on the front end of projects t1lat the city IS doing I
guess I want to challengol myseU and the rest of council and thol
community to get together and have this communIcation be more
consistent
Courtney I Any other discusslon-
Roll call- (yeses)
Resolution is adopted
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(ourtn..y/ PIJbl1( DlSo:usslon
Tom Muelli!'f / Nt"w mem~r of th't" S~n1or l:en~r ':,_'mmlSSJOn 3nd ! am h-:reo
to give you on€> vf tlle 'lp.:lac..s that IS Impvrtant In vur (OmmUIlKati0n
As I am sur€- you all kI10W ':11.;. :.)o:?nlOf ':o:?ut'e'! IS .=lvs~ nght now
because It IS under gomg som~ malnt~nanc.. The pnmary tiling tllat
has closed It IS It IS b>?lng recarpeted With tlllS beautiful :arp>?tlng
WlUch I would b€> glad to pass 3r(1und no?re
We ,3r~ r<o'Carp"tlng tlle flrs~ tllr~ floors of th" cen!>;r now under of
current bUdget and hopefUlly we Will have enough money l~ft In our
bUdget as we get near tlle end of tlle year tllat we WIll b>? able to buy
carpetmg for tlle balance of tlle Center and tllen find money In next
years budget to put it on tlle tloor So we are closed but we Will be
open tomorrow for lunch and tll", first tl00r and tll", ground tloor Will
be open a w*k for tomorrow, the 22M of Apnl and all of tlle
carpeting we hope we Will have It compl"'ted by tll", 4tll of May In
addition we are dOing some painting Now you all know It has wen
tller", 10 y",ars It has been 10 Use for ten years so we have tlllS
ongoing program and we are USl1lg community workers prOVided to us
by tile court to do tile palntmg and have a plan next year to get tile
wall coverings and tlle very high areas done profeSSIOnally In
addition we are also uSing t.'lese community workers to clean, sand,
and re-oil all of our wood lurnlture Sometlllng else has come up
tllere and I want to read tllis little verbiage to you The maJority of
people WIlo volunteer or at!>;nde<:1 classes WIlen tile Cen!>;r opened !>;n
years ago were basically healtlly 65 and 75 y~ar "Id p'?(>pl>? Ten
years laoor tlllS group IS Iikel>" to have problems WltIl Sight, heanng,
mobil!ty and tlexibility And although tile new young retired loin each
year, a surpnsing number of older retirees not Involved WIlen tIley
were younger also jOin for many reaS(1ns Including that tlle center IS
an acceSSible, low fisk, high satisfaction faCility and program The
center endeavors to addr~ss tIlese problems in diff~r~nt ways each
year So we are addreSSing t.he lleanng problem ThiS year the gift
fund at tile Senior Cenoor purchased a $972 PA system WlllCh was
selected to make programs In our largest big meeting room eaSily
heard from every pOint In the room The (Ity In addition, spent
$2817 on replaCing the nine year old PA system fro th€' rest of tile
bUilding, The Commission IS also working on an Impro"",d slgnage
sys!>;m so that those Wh') ar>? ,0nfus~ have Sight probl",ms of 1,;]]0 ar~
overwhelmed by th~ SIZ~ of ':he bUlldmg Will find l<xating3 pr')gram,
activity or me",ting less tlu",atenmg We 31so ~re worl:.lllg ,.>n makmg
bathroom doors and ",ntry J,,,:.rs molr", a,:,:"s-slbl" and III fa.:t one ,)f th"
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thmgs tIlat W~ have .jone m tIlat r.-gar-j IS apply '.0 erN r-,r ,3 grant A
S 11,570 Which would h~lp mak~ the heavy ,j.)ors ~aSlel t(, -)~n for
pwple that would hav~ dlfl1culty th"re Now they did turn us do,vn
but w~ WIll b<o b.1~k. ::0 W~ al.o aN workIng on th~ hr.. alarm WIth
th~ lire dept to add sound and light In rvoms so that people that are
hard of h"aring or have SIght probl"ms ~11J b" able to be a....'are tlIat
mere IS a tire alarm So that IS me report Thank you veri much for
your contmuoo support
Cvurtney I Thanl: you
Naomi School! 625 Whiting Ave I'd like to read a leu..r from Gw"n Hayes
which was deliv"red to me today She wntes m support of the
proposal before you to seek ....'ays to control the de~r In reSIdential
north Iowa City (R"ads Letter)
Hal Schedll 625 Whiting Ave I would like to comment to follow up that we
are celebrating 500 years after the discovery of Amenca by Columbus
We know that this has had a maJor impact on North America but IS
has not affected the deer population h~re are more d"er now than
wilen Columbus landed but they nave less terntory and I would like
to propose a solution, Possible solution tIlat IS used and has been used
other places in Iowa The Dept of Natural Resources, DNR, has a plan
for parks wIlere there IS an over abundance of deer, They make a
survey and decIde wIlat the area can support a:1.d then mey permIt
hunters to purchase a permit to hunt the deer and control the
popUlation. And my sugg~StiOlllS Ulat We ~lIh"t tile DNR to see
wIlether there is a tolerable pOpulation vr whether tIley should all be
hunted. There is a standard safe way of hunting deer m Iowa usmg
deer slugs m shot gun shells and supervised hunting that would 00
safe.
Courtney I Motion to accept correspondenc~ (Ambr Horow) We are in
receipt of correspondence before us tonrght trom Peter Hayek
concerning the same SUbject I would have to say on me OppoSIte Side
of the arguments
Nov II would also Uk" to say tllat tIlere ar~ some less drastic measures that
can help control deer and I am trymg 1.0 g~t som.,. mformation on
wIl~re these kmd of thmgs ar~ available for purchas~
Courtney I Any other discussion on accepting correspondence
All In favor (ayes)
Barbara Nickmshl -) 32 KIrkwood r am here representing the Longfellow
nelghborllood. Summit Stre.,t., Klrkw,)od, K.,<lkUk, Marcy,lll thp. way
down from the mall t<l GIlt-ert Str~.,t And we allllad tMugllt that thp.
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W1d~mng of Kirkwood was not gc'mg to nappoi-n 'lnUllast night IVlthm
two hours w~ got a gr~at d",al of P""Pl", to .;om" hoi'r~ to "1.1>r"ss to YOlJ
W" do not want Kl!t wood "'1d",ned ,md 'Jur un,j~rst.lndlfig had b'*n
that Hwy "6 was bullt Th" H'''''Y "6 By-pass to tat. tM tralll.; away
from Summit and Klrtwood and w~ ar" wggmg you that you would
reconsld~r and nor Wld~n our str~"t Thank you ""ry much
C..cll~ Ku~nsll/ 70'1 S Summit I am h.r~ to addr~ss tM Klrtwood ISSU~ also
As ( hav~ follow~ th~ diSCUSSIon of thiS ISSU~ ( r~allzed that th~
problem that confronts yOU IS .,.,ry often your ,:onc.,rn that what you
do to one neighborhood IS gomg to ha"~ an Impact on anoth~r
neighborhood. As the pr~sld~nt of Longfltllow Nltlghborhood
Association, 1 want to say that we are m complet~ solidanty with th~
Kirkwood pE?Opllt b<?<:aus~ what affltcts th~lr neighborhood negativ<S'ly
IS going to affect our neighborhood negauv~ly,too Kirkwvod funnels
traffic dir<S'ctly into thlt n~ighborhood of Longfellow via Summit St!eltt
To quote a much over used- We don't dlsagrlte that the strlt~t nel?ClS to
b" rltbUllt That the substructurlt IS deteriorating but rebulld It but do
you have to widen it, To quow a much ovltr used phraslt from a very
w~ll known mOVie, you bulld It and they Will com~ Widening
Kirkwood is what I call th~ _ phllosophy of st!~et wid~nlfig
and street building. As I undl?fstand It, Kirkwood IS not an arteriaL It
is m~r~ly t!~ated as an artenal Why not ~ncouraglt traffic to us~ th~
by-pass six for wtlich it was int.I'n<l.<l for ..:twh Mrs Nicknish just
said. If ther~ prov~s to not be enough room ther~ to handl~ the
ov~rload from Kirkwood. you have more room on By-Pass "6 to Wid~n
than you do In the Kirkwood area Last Jun" yOU passed a polley of
pres~rving and valumg th~ Integrity of n~lghborhoods Valuing-
pr~s~rving n~ighborhoods at the eY.pens~ of movmg traffic It s~~ms
to m~ this is thlt first r~aI ISSU<S' you hav. m wtlich to Impl~m~nt that
policy and W~ ~agltrly look forward to s.~mg you do It
courtn~y / Any oth.r items for PUbl1C discussion
JOhn Dyson/ I thank the otl1~r two repr~s.ntauvl?S for glVll\g you som~ very
cl~ar cut mformation about Kirkwooo Ave I gu~ss thlty and mys~1t
haV~ lived ther~ a long ume I have b~~n thHIt approXimately twenty
y~ars and there IS lIttl~ 1 can add to what has been saId except I don't
eV~r rem~mber traffic bemg a hug~ problem on that street. I have
s~ldom If ~v~r b~en frustrated on trymg to gH onto Kirkwood Ave I
don't understand where all the pr"bl~m IS tllat "'~ are trymg to solV~
It IS Just non ~Xlstent HIS a IltU", bit l1k", saymg3 bus gomg down th~
str",et WlUI Oll~ person 011 It I .jrove 'Jnto Kirkwood Av", tomght at
ab<lUt 7 30, a I1ttl,. bit j:'rlor to that I dr.)ve fr')1\l one elld t,) tile ,)t11er
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as far as I could Se.? and I was th", .)nly ,ar on Kirkwood Ave at that
tlm", I travel It Imly olten I leave my horn" approXImately at 7 30
m the mornmg on a regular baSIS and com", horn", ~ 30 or :. 00 PM
V~ry oltNn on that ;tr....t dunng U,.. noon hour and som..tim... s..v..ral
times dunng the noon hour and I thtnk traffic flows very mcely on
that str""t I don't know 01 any four laM strwts that aren't bUSY I
thInk IS you WIden It you are gOIng to get more tralflc So If traffIC IS
the problem thiS IS certatnIy not the solution I M'ar that money IS a
probl",m ner", in Iowa City And r suggest to you that It .e",ms like a
big waste to me to spend any money Wldenmg KirkWOod Ave I agree
I tIllnk Hwy -6 was bUilt as tne by-pass It IS only a blo.:k and a half
or two blocks away. If It still had the frontage roads that were started
originally that would b", an excellent by-pass But It IS a far better by-
pass than Kirkwood Ave would be an arterial avenue through the City
So I agr"" I have seen no problems in twenty years and I really don't
anticipate any unless you attract a lot of traffic mto that reSIdential
neighborhood Thank you
Carolyn Gross/l was here last evemng for your work sessIon and consIstently
heard your experts tell you that you n*<l to WIden th", stroot to make
It safer and then worry about ta~.ing th", traffic off of It Are we going
to have another Dodge Street that for four blocks IS four lanes wide
and hardly gets used If you widen that street and do as we aSk and
take trafflc off 01 It, it is not gOing to make your use Of money very
good, Why not worry about keepIng tramc 0[[ of It m the llrst place
and then you wouldn't hav", to widen It. Thank you
Courtney I Any otller items for publiC diSCUSSion r WOUIU potnt out again for
some of you that weren't here at the beginning There WIll be an
official p.h. set on this proi~t in abOut a month from now and there
will be notification of that We will try to get it out through the
Neighborhood Services Coordinator There IS gomg 0 be some
informatlonal meetlngs before that TMre 'N'lll be anot.her ph when It
comes time for us to olficlally vote on thiS
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ITEM NO.8.
RECOMMENDATION OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS
I. Consldor rocommond.lJons oliN Commlnoo on Commllllly
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III THE COMMlnEE ON COMMUNITY NEEDS RECOM.
MENDS TO THE CITY COUNCil TO CONTINUE TO
SUPPORT THE CURB RAMP ACCESSIBILITY PRO.
GRAM AS THEY HAVE IN THE PREVIOUS TWO
YEARS AT THE CURRENT AMOUNT OF m,ooo.
Commonl: CD8G lundl hive boon ulod In IN put 10
mike cUlbs Icculiblo 10 porsOlll uslng whoolcholll.
Howover, two VOIII Igo. curb .ccOIslbiUly Imll/ovo,
monlS woro lundod lNOUOh ItrOOl m.lnllnanco.
AllhOUOh nOl I rocommondlllon lOt CDBO lundlng,
CCN lliIl consldorllN CUlb rlmp .ccIIllbllily Il/O/OCI
· nocOI..ry lundlng Il/O!OCl. InlOtrnollon roglrding
lho CCN rocomrr.ondallon Illnc/udad In lho Morch 18,
1892 CCN mlnull1.
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TO THE CITY COUNCil TO FUND THE FOllOWINO 1882
COSO PROJECTS IN THE AMOUNTS BELOW:
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Community M.nlllHullh COnlll Acqulllllon
low. Clly frlt M.dlc., CUnIc . L.bor.lory
M.yor'l Youth Employmenl Prog. . f.lrmudowl Prol,
HOME ProlOCI COO/dln.11on
Houllng R.h.bUll.llon
Eldllly SlIvleu Agoncy . sllIin R.palr Progr.m
GII.tlllaw. City lloullng f.llowlhlp Acqulllllon
LIFE Skllll . Houllng SUPPG/I Plogram
Aid 10 Ag.nclu
G.nllll P1.nnlng .nd Program Admlnlllrallon
Contlng.ncy
'41,180
171,180
114,000
111,980
118,300
1280,000
117,380
145,000
118,984
181,400
112&,000
'30,718
Commonl: Tho CCN mOl on Milch 18, 1892 and made
rocommondallonl rogardlng 1992 CDBO IUndlng, Addlllonal
Inlormlllon roglrdlng Iho CCN rocommondallon Islnc/udod In
lho ProjoCl ROlourco Book Ind In tho CDBG Coordlnalor'.
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10WI CIly Clly Council
Rogullr Council Maollng
April 14, 1892
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ITEM NO.7.
ACllon: ~e !k1JJ o.~' AII')
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PU9l1C HEARING TO HEAR COMMENTS FROM THE PU8l1C REGARD.
ING THE RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE COMMiTlti ON eOMMUHilY
NEEDS ICCNI ON THE USE OF 1892 COMMUNITY DMlOPMENT
8l0CK GRANT ICD8GI FUNDS.
Commont: On Morch 18, 1882.1ho CommIllOO on Commllllly Noodl
mOl ond IOtmul'lod rocommond'llons lOt Il/OjoCll uslng 1882 CDBG
lunds. Tho CCN rocommondlllOllllnd oddillOlllIInIOtm'llon roglrdlng
lho roqutll' .ro conlolnod In lho PrOIoCl ROlourco Book Ind lho
momOtlndum from lho CDBG COOIdinllOt which .ro Includod In lho
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ITEM NO. B.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF VACANCIES.
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ITEM NO.9.
I. Boord 01 Adjullmonl . Ono voconcy lOt In \IlOxplrld lorm
ondlng JlllUlry I. 1098. (CondlCI Andorlon rOslgnod.1
b. CommltlOo on CommlrlllY Noods . Ono vlClncy lOt . lIvoo.
Ylor lorm ondlng July I, 1898. (Mo,ll Snldor'.lorm ondl.1
Tholo Ippolnlmonll will bo mldo Illho Moy 28, 1882. mOIling OliN
City Council.
CITY COUNCil APPOINTMENTS
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I. Conlldor In Ippo/nlmonl to lho AlrPQtt Zoning Boord 01
Adjullmonl 10 WI I voconcy lOt I nVI'Yllr lorm ondlng
FobtUlry 28, 1097. IJohn Ruylo'llorm ondl,l
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b. Conlldor In Ippolnlmlnl 10 lho AlrpOll Commllslon lOt In
unexplrod 101m ondlng Mlrch I. 1898, !Willllm Tuckor
rOllgnod.1
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Courtney I Move\l and se.;onde\l (Kubby, Horow) to accept the
recommendation. DISCUSSion.
KUbby I Just to make It real clear We are not saymg that thiS IS getting
fundlllg. This IS saying that we are heanng wllat CCN is
recommending. There will be a p.h on the next Item and then in two
w~ks we will be voting on how to allocate the block grant
Courtneyl All in favor- (ayes)
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not ~ondly, I und.;.rstand th~ ?,)mt that Manann.;. mat",s about Fair
Meadows This IS also a prolect that keeps Mayor's Youtll ~mploy~
That gets tile matchmg lunds and I don't know how many
neighborhoods there are tIlat are lower tncome tIlan tile orchard street
neighborhood I thmk we are 10 an area that really could beneHt Irom
even a better park than tlllS You know as well as I do that that big
park you have talked about over there IS a long time In commg Tltis
would give some reliel But at tile very le3.st I Wished there could be
wtter coordmation Irom tIlese kinds of thmgs because I really le..l
that some-at least slight dlsservlc.. has ~n done to m}' .:ommlsslon
10 haVing thmgs so much 10 the dark Thank you.
Jim Swaim/ I am Irom United Action For Youth I don't want to address our
proposal per se tomght. I do want to comment that all 01 us are sort
01 learnmg Irom this Irrst year 01 SWitching the cycles lor CDBG, And I
appreciate the efforts that tile stall have gone to. I thInk a lot 01
things have come up lalrly short notice lor a lot 01 us in terms 01 how
the change m the schedule aflects ditterent projects and I think thls
year w.. have learned a lot and I ..xpect It Will Iron out what.:ver
problems we have next year And I want to encourag.. he council that
If you have any suggestions on how to facilitate some 01 those things,
Whether It be meetings earlier Ifi th.. y..ar lor some 01 the things that
we have to decide I know, espeoally for Peg 10 applying for grants,
that the state deadllnes now gets kind 01 screwed up relative to the
new CDBG guidelines tn that time Irame. So we are going to meet to
try and work out whatev..r bugs we can, But that IS gomg to be
somethmg that tak..s us a little longer Thanks.
Courtney / Any other input on thiS particUlar Item.
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Any comm..nts on thIS Ittom;
Rowrt Burns/ 10.....<1 CIty archlte-:t and deNlop..r My prvlect IS to
rehabll1taoo the Pr"ss-CltI::en BUlldlllg mto housmg tor the ..lderly and
dlsablliMs I'd like to bn..lIy tou~h on five topICS The tlmlOg ot my
request to you, the leverage vt the CDBG tunds, the evaluatlVn process,
the !ustlticatlon ror tundtng thIS protect, and aloornaoo CIty 3upport
Frrst ot all, the Issue vt tlmtng I (~l tllat thE' other applicants arE' very
worthy prolects tvr your consid..ratlon How..ver, I thmk you'r.. gomg
to have to ask yours..lt It thIS IS th.. only chanc.. w..'r.. gotng to have
to try to preserve th.. Press-C1tl::en BUlldmg There are otller
developers who are moorested m pur'chasmg the bullding and
demollshmg It. I have limIted tlme 111 'much to negotlaoo Its ,.urchase.
Secondly, tile leverage ot the CDBG tunds 1 ha ~'.. a handout Our
request tor tunding trom the CDBG program represents 10% ot our
total project cost. If you compare that Witll all tile vther applicants, as
I have done, we rank s""ond, lust behmd the Greaoor Iowa CIty
Housing Fellcwshlp, 111 oorms ot leverag.. The thre.. columns on the
right hand SIde ot your exlublt repr..sents the budget breakdown trom
..ach of the applications that were submItted to the city. The tirst
column IS the CDBG funds, ;econd IS the otll..r tunds, and total funds,
and I've shown the percentage and highhghted our pro!"ct that
represents the I 0% The third pomt that I wanted to address is the
..valuation proc,;.ss by CCN I hav.. anotMr ..x11iblt. First or all tile
handout- I'll wait till you get it ThIS handout comes trom the city It's
the evaluation proc..ss used by CCN You'll see that our project meets
every criooria tor evaluatlng these appllcatlvns I've checked them olt
and I've veritled it witll the cIty Secondly, with respect to the
"valuation process, you can se.. that I've hIghlighted '.-.1l..re I (eel tile
prolect ranked on their evaluatlon scale The CDBG tunds ar" to b"
paid baCk We do address a sigDlticant and urgent .;ommuDlty n",,(\
And Will assIst a larg" numb"r 0t low and moderaoo income peop!" m
relationshIp to the housmg Issue We plan to bwld up to 66 units And
more importantly probably. the slgDlticant us.. oi maochmg tunds I'v"
already touched on that The (act that we do le~'erage additional (unds
whIch we inoond to apply tor But the tourth point Id like to touch on
IS lUStltlcatlon by you tor tundmg thiS pr01ect t,)r housmg FIrst o( all. I
come to you because ot the tugh cost per :Jlllt I 'Or site acqUisition l'n
thIS location Without somE' kmd 'Oi s11bSldy It'S gomg to be ',ery
dlttlcult to develop low mcom~ hOUSing on that 'we $",condly. w",'d M
returnmg ,)r yvu',j b.. returlllng, tllE' bUllcimg t.o a lugliE'r pr')p~rty tax
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vatu':?' Wh~n Wi: completo:1 t.h.:- pr0'€'(:t ThlI,jly .N":-~'~ s.;ole<to:-\J thiS
b~ause of Its locatlon n..ar ~XlStlng s<Xlal ,ervlC~S, pnmanly the
Seruor Center ....tuch IS nght across tho; str",..t And fourthly, for the
ftrlit that w... arlo} r~u~~tmg W<aUS... th... ";lty suppvrt to a kwy to
attracting oth€'r state and fw€'ralfunds W€' learn",,j that last year
With the Flllagarden prolo?Ct WlllCb IS no..... UndH ':0nstructlon Tbe ltfth
pomt that 1 wantoo to touch on m :on,!uslon IS t.'1at If It'S not possible
to fund thiS prOle.:t With COW funds, Id like you to consider ~lteruate
;curces of funding and prunartly tax Increm..nt ltnan.:mg I've talke-j
....,th the assessor and weVe done a prel1mmary estlmate of What thiS
lll1gbt generate In additional property taxes mcremental basis and It's
conservatl'~ely $65,OOO/year So thank you for your conslderatlon
Courtney / Thank you
Any other comments on this Item? Yes
Charles Eastham/ PreSIdent, Greater Iowa City Housmg FelloWShip 1 lust
very brleUy wantoo to summanz.. our prol~t and talk about two of
what we thmk are the key features The profect for which we are
requesting funds Involves purchasmg ')ld duplexes at scattered Sites
throughout the city. two 2 bedroom duplexes and three 3 bedroom
duplexes And after acquiring those properties, rehabilitating them as
appropriate to make them avatlable as rental property, affordable
rental property, to very low Income households 'NllO are partiCIpating
In the City'S admlmstered section a program The purpose of this
proj.;..;t, as w-e have formulated It, we thmk meets two of the needs
detailed or outlined In the recently CHAS First, It would make rental
apartments. additional rental apartments, available to section a
participants and It's clear from reading the CHAS that there Is
substantial diffiCUlty on the part of section <3 participants m !lndmg
rental apartments that landlords make available to them And the
second purpose Is that O'Ter the course of time these apartments. these
properties Will eventually increase tlle overall stock of affordable
rental apartments Units m the City smce after the 15 y..ar ,jebt
r..tirem..nt period for thiS proJect the rental rates (an be lowero/.! to
the actual operating cost Which we think WIll make rental rates wblch
are affordable to very low 1Ocom" bouseholds The OthH k€'y f€'ature
of thiS proi~t IS that th€' lo,-,:a CIty Housmg F..llo....'Ship IS a non-profIt
organization It's commumty bas...;! md oWll€'rsblp of thes€' propertl€'s
Will remain SUbstantially In the communtty And the propo?rtles WIll
r..malll as affordabl€' hOUSing thf'~ugholJt tll€'ll useful!lfe 'f (olJncIl
has any questions Id l'.. llapP\' '0 ;nsW-r th",m
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Ambr! Mr mayor I',j Ilk.. to n!,'V'" t~'lat '"'' O(,"rt '11" hanJ-:.ut$ that w"r"
pr~sented dunng thIS ph
Nov I SI?o:ond
Courtn"y I Mov.;d and s"'ond~ (Ambr Larson) to a.;c"pt Mr Burns
handouts
Any diScussIon?
All In favor ( ayes)
Nov / We also had a letter on thiS, we approved that
Courtn.;y I Anyone else WIth mput on thiS Item?
Mary Anne Denms/ ChaIr, CCN I'd also like to mtrOduc.; a couple of other
comulIttee members that ar.; her.; tonight Lmda Murray IS here, She
IS the vlce-chatr of the committee. Bruno Piggott IS also here and he's a
commIttee member J wanted to remmd th" counCIl that we did
re<:eive 17 r.;quests totalling over S I 4 million, The cIty allocation from
HUD is $750,000 So we did recommend that you fund ten proje<:ts and
that woUld also include a $30.000 contingency fund and S 125 for
planning and program adminIstration. I'd like to end by saymg that
you're all welcome and we ho~ to see you at the CD celebration
Thursday, April 23, from 4-6 at the Senior Center Thank you.
Courtney I Could you give us just a IitUe of the background on the discussion
on Mr. Burns pro)e<:t? I do have some sympathIes toward that
LOOking at the evaluation process, one of them was not pr~vlOUsly
funded With CDBG funds and several of the recipIents nave been
previously fUnd~. w!1~r~ h~ hasn't J just wond~red what thto
discussion was, I'm not arguing With It,
Dennisl Obviously the Press-Citizen project has not been fund~ before Mr
Burns is involved in another proje<:t that received a conSiderable
amount of funding last year which IS over b"hmd EconofoOds m
Southgate I guess what I can say IS that I think the committee IS
committed to hOUSIng We are v9ry aware of the eHAS, an<! we <lId
fund, we recommend~ that you fund four proJects that are very
consistent and meet all of the obJectives 01 the CHAS ')ne- of the
concerns that 1 personally had as a member of the .;ommlttee IS the
sIze of the request We recommended $230,000 for the housing rehab
program in the ';Ity, which you know serV9S many, many renters and
home owners To fund Mr Burns prolect would then be, Wlth any kmd
of adminIstration. would then not allow us to fund any other proJect
So that was my bigg9st personal concern
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Larson/ Would It b~ fair to Sdy 'llat It wasn t any problem so much With hiS
prol<?<:t. as much as the fact that that prolect alont' would mt'an that
none of the other pro1"cts could bt' fund.;d ,
O...nm./ That'. v~ry fair to oay
Larson/ [ didn't S* any argum..nt Wlth any vI the thmgs that Mr Burns was
saymg about It meeting the cntenon and everythmg
Dennls/ No
Larson/ [t ends the program for all of the oth€'r prole.;ts
DenniS Right. And IllS prolect m"t all of th~ ':nt<>na
Courtney / Okay Thank you
Have we el,:plored tlle posSibility of tlle TIF for tlllS pro\<'Ct)
Atklns/ No But we WIll it tllat IS what you'd like [.;an put It on my tllmgs
to do list.
Courtney/Okay
Kubby / And what other options tllere are for ways the city can be mvolved
Atkinsl Our money
Larsonl For instance, tllat $100,000 we set aside Whetller tlllS 15 a place for
tllat and so fortll.
Atkinsl I just want you to b€' cau'" J , 10 tlle ne.:t montll or so about malor
cash kind of capital commitmet...> '0 prolects I share Bob's concerns,
It would really bl a nice bulldll:~ to save and plus a good project but
the legislature IS still m session. [hate to repeat tllat but I Simply lust
don't know-
Kubby I This might be one of tllose thmgs Where we want a menu of options
Atkins I I understand What you are saying ! tllink It IS worth tat-ing another
run at.
Courtney I Thank you.
Jean MannI Director of Elderly Services Agency and I am here both to tllank
you for your support of the human services agencies here In town
through tlle block grant dollars tllat you allocate for tlle people In thiS
community And also because Of the funding requests that the CCN
has recommended ! lust want to say to you that Elderly Services has
a small repair program. Our mission IS to keep p~ople safely In tlleir
homes, We will serve, by the time June 30tll comes around thiS year,
we will serve about 60 people. maybe 70 people WIth repairs tllat
directly relate to tlleir bemg able to remam saiely at homo? Tile cost
of those repairs ca range-we sort 0 aim at $400-)500 top on tllmgs
But Wo? havo? ro?palrs that can bo? as ine')!lso?quo?ntial as $5(1-$60 and
then we have some very large ones Wh",re I have to ,peak to
Mananne Milkman and t11o?Y havo? to '.<llk a~{'ut tJlo?lr pnonU€'s W€'
are I1terally somo?ono?'s saf"ty It ,jlre<:ts salo?ly- 'vVo? appo?al to women
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and mlfi0nty (0ntractvrs W", ar.. Mlplfig t,uslfi"'SS..S In '.hat '.-lay Wlt!l
tIlat money We aro: ke;,pmg people m tIl€'lr Ilomes l'o'lu,:h IS gOIng to
save you a lot v( money lfi tIl., long run Jnd I Know tIlat It Jo~n't look
I1ke so much compar..d to tile Pr..ss CltlZ",n bUlldmg but a 11tU.. money
svmetlmes ....,sely used can help people ;tay lfi tll"'lr homes and b..
sate almost as effecttv<?ly as a bIg prol<?Ct can And I lust want<?d to
call to your atwntion tIlat the money can go along way I am sorry
tIlat we can't (und <?verytlung That IS all I 'Wanted to say
KUbby! Could one of tile staff people or mayb<? someone (rom CeN tell us a
litUe bit about tile Ned Aston Trail park d<?voi'lopm<?nt and Why so
many people Why It It IS not .,l1glble, Why It IS not el1glble
Atkins! Before Marianne speakS to tIlat, w'" have some correspondence thiS
evening tIlat ( would 11ke to address real qUickly We have budgeted
What we haITe called tile Benton Street Park, is fully budgeted And
yOU'll recall during our bUdget diSCUSSions that tile parks and
recreations folks raised the Issue by parkland acquisitions funds is
what I recommended to you I happen to belloi've tIlat it's a very
positive prolect That we can proceed W1t1llt And tIlat m my last
conversation with representativ.,s from tile commISSIOn and the staff
of parkS and ree, they are meeting at tile end of tIlis month to go over
some recommendations to you abOut the use of parkland acquisition
funds. Because as you remember, they were sort of sp11t as to whether
they wanted to make cash contribution, whether we had to pay back
But we do have that proJect lfi our Capital Improvements We're just
simply waiting for them to make that policy determmati<'n for us.
Larson! Including those parts of tile project Mayor's youth was gOing to do
Atkins! We have $55,000 dollars budgeted for that proJect Now how we get
It don<? is really sort of a secondary Issue, We did have the thing
budgeted. Secondly, when this issue was brought tc' my attention by
Mary Anne and she \'"""s lust seeking my oplmon on these things, one
of tile things that I (elt 'Was pertinent to thiS project and why eeN
might not want to (und it is that we do clearly have an alternate
source of monies, that being parkland acqUisItion It's not a whole
heck o( a lot dlffoi'rent than When CDW money was paymg for the ~urb
cut It Just Simply didn't make sense when you do have a Viable
moi'ans to do It So, I Just ',.;anted to preface Mananne's comm..nts ....,th
that prolect IS m your CIP
Larson! Well, the question It raises for me then, IS '#hether)ne of thoi'se
other prolects that does not quallfy for matchlllg (unds '"",uld be
boi'tter (undoi'd by Ule city so Ulat tlus pro;<?ct (,)uld be don~ by Mayor's
Y0Uth since they g",t a mat<:h on (unds Wo: ,))mmlt (r''lll <:DBG
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Atklnsl That's v"ry possIble But we'd hav" to go wck through those
Manan IS snakmg tier Mad I don't know "Ither
Larsonl Wh..n we g..t matchmg (unds, I want 1-.' us th..m I am lust
wondermg 11 we .;an US" them her"
Atklnsl My goal was-! had understood that ther" was general support lor
the prole<t Lets g..t the prole<t (\one II 10 lact we are able to get
Mayors YOUUI mvolvt'd and 11m fact ther... ar... other ag...ncles that
might parttclpatot 10 the dev"lopment, that IS all the better Aga10 the
goal was to get the th10g ltmshes But we need th" re<:ommendatIon
from P/R on the use of the momes So that IS kmd 01 hang10g out
there.
Larsonl There are lots 01 ISSUes but the one I wanted a dire<t answer from I
guess ....-as Whether 1'1" could double our money by us10g It m thIS way
Marianne Mili'.manl We could but ev"n better 10 the opinion of CeN and staff
agr'*s with Ulem IS to use It on the Fair Meadows park Improvement
proje<t because that has a double Whammy m the sense 10 that It both
funds the Mayors Youth element of it and benefits a lower mcome
neighborbood
Larson/l understand that but why couldu't you do both Are they not able
to do both projects in one year
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Larson! So you are still taking advantage of that mat:hmg lund It IS just on
a different proje<t for Mayors Youth
Milkman! Rigbt
Larson!l tell you what, Bob, you wnte a good I"tter
Robert Wachall Thank you I feel sort 01 in the dark about thIS w1lole
process I don't th10k I was well mlormed Perhaps 1 wasn't even
well advIsed to go lorth and spend the time and bave P"g MCElroy
spend the time gomg befor" thiS TIllS poor commlttN-that IS not a
criticism I'm saying thiS poor committe" b>?caus>? th"y hay>? so very
many worth while proJects to fund And I saId that w1len [ was bere
before wben we approacbed them In fact I would not bave come
back regardless of encouragement from stail to do so had not the
commItte", ,,,veral people ,)n th" com mitt,,>? Its,,11 aSk"d m" to go
ah"ad and do It again Agnes Kuhn Who IS no longer ther" and at least
one person Who 15 still t.h"re It would have been nice :f we coUld
hav" gotten 1I1e P IF< Comm to make th" commIttee before this bas t.o
M deCIded so y')U would kuo'" '",'hether those lunds are a',ailable or
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10WI Clly Clly Council
Rogullr Council MOOllng
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c. Consldor .n Ippolnlmonllo lho Porks Ind Rocrllllon Commll'
slon 10 ml.n WIO.plrod lorm onding J.nuory I, 1883. lKaron
Ht.dlk roslgned.1
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Horow/ Yes I wlleve tIlat you ""'"re nice ~nough to r".,;<h"oul" tile
suocommlttw on school salet,' to tile .;.;nd ,)1 AprU at :. ',0 PM
Sometllmg has .;ome to my att.:ntlon And wMn tile 51:, graders Irom
Roos"v"lt are moved over to Coralville or Kirkwood Well. they ar"
moved Irom Roosevelt They are (\.:<:Idmg tonight It has wen
requested by som" ot t.'le P"'Opt" on the west Side that tlllS particular
ll:P.m wadded to tile concerns we have r !l3V" assured tllem tIlat tlllS
IS going tllrough th" saf"ty comnuttP.e ot tlle school But ess"ntlally
tlley will no longer nave SIX grade crossmg guards at Bo?nton and
Greenwood So tlley unmedlately asked abOut llashmg hgbts I said
that it would be mucb betl:P.r It tlley went tllrough their satety
committee and th"n bad that brought to our att"ntion But I do tllmk
that tllat is an ar"a because 01 tlle hill tIlat we should be aware of So
I told them that I would just bring It up tonight Thank you That IS
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Ambr / Several months ago our very ell.1l"nslve ladder truck was involved in
a mutual aide program tor Lone Tree and durmg the combat ot that
tire our eqUIpment sustained some serious damage and t do believe
that it is back on line now, Sl:P.ve
Atkins/ Yes sir
Ambr/ What "''as the total t III and IS tllere any pOSSibility ot recovering
some recompense on tllat
Atkins/ My understanding was tIlat the bill was approXlmal:P.ly $60,000
And whlle the damage didn't appear to be severe What bapp"ned
was was the arm, the weight of th" arm when Ul.: wall t.:lI. It had a
jarring motion whicb basically,m as I understand It, damages tlle
strength ot the ladder. I don't \mow a whole lot about these things
whicb is paintully E'vident
Nov/ I assume trom what you are saymg IS that w" had to bUY a whole new
piece ratller tIlan repair
AWns/ My understanding is that Uley have put m a numb"r ot new parts
don't know the detaUs to that For $60,000 I am makmg tlle
assumption hat Uley put 10 a lot of new parts r know that Jim. our
fire chlE'!, through tinance is talking to th" lolks 10 Lone Tree to see
what type ot IOsurance recovery Wf: might gE't ThE'fe was an E'arher
conCE'rn that WE' WE're gOlOg to go all:P.r the City ot Lone Tre" That IS
Simply not the case t tlllnk Wf: put that issu" to rest But that IS
being pursued Bill and t don't really nave the details no'''' I Will get
someUllng back to you II you would l1ke
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KUbby / I gu"ss I am maklng an ~ssumptton that wh"n w.. dr" b"lng
coo~ratlv" dnd h"lpmg anoth"r lunsdlctlon With their fir", that '''''
only take the ladder truck. tlle .;^'P'"nslv,; 0n.; )ut wh.;n It IS n.;ww
Atklns/ My und9rstandlng of th.. mutual dId.. proc..ss works W.. ar9
secondary, we are ca1l9d, And wh.;n tlley call, I am sur9 tllere IS a
descnptton of the natur" )f tlle fir.; and tllen the type of response tllat
tlley would LIke to have r am sure tlley don't have that typo: of
equipment. SO I am making an assumptton, Kar"n. that only WIlat IS
sent IS WIlat IS n~w
Ambrl Last week, your honor, you appomW Mrs Nov and myseU to a
specIal comml~ to be tlle facilitators Wltll two members ot tlle
Board ot Su~rvlSors and two members ot the Board ot Trustees ot tlle
Library We met today at I PM and tlle elected officials ot tlle
commit~ elected Mayor Pro Tem Novas our chalI' I would like to
deter to Naomi at tllis pOint to give a resume and recommendation to
council.
Courtney I Do you have any otller items
Nov I We did have a meeting We did have a lot of good discussion and as a
compromise tor tlle moment tor IT 1993 we agr~ on tlle Library
Board recommendation to $208,526 This Will be written somehow so
tllat it can be a Signed letter by both city and county and we will also
get togetller and Wo: Will also rewnte a long term contract And tllis
committee Will meet again on April 30tll at noon in the JOhnson
Courtney Administration bUilding in the confer"nce room on the
second floor. And whoever would like to come IS welcome
Kubby I What happens since the Library says that to serve county residents,
they need $225.000 to pay tor services. And how are those same
services give for $208,000
Nov I What will probably happen is that the servIces that were cut are not
going to be complete;y restored but hey are gOing to be equalized for
everyone And I don't know If tllls parttcular dlfference In funding
would mean that ther.. would be Cewo:r people workmg, C..wer hours,
fewer capital expenses this year But I think the only way to do it is
some how amend that budget and that WIll be up to the LIbrary Board
Kubby I I do have some concerns about that because the citizens of Iowa City
said that they are willing to have theIr taxes increased on a levy basis
to restore services to past Cull levels and that With the county not
paying their full share then our citizens are sUff"rlng from that
Nov I ThiS is a valid point and we all said t1lls
Kubby I I am very distressed about this
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Ambr/ Th~r.. was also m"fiuon.-d dUring tM ,jlscUSSIOIl by th.,. ,ju ,;.:tor ~nd
/.Is Nov pl..d5<l cQrro><:t m.. If I mlsund..rstooxl thiS TMr.,. couh:l b<-
other sourc"s ....'thm the library's {manclal ;ources to com" up ",th
that $17,000 dltfer"ntlal
Nov / I believe It was not qUlte the WIlol.. s..v..nte..n
Ambr I It wasn't qUite that !lrm
Nov I But there was som.. fleXIbility
Ambr / We went mto that meeting '^'1th the sole purpose of commg out of
there '^'1th a resolution It took a great deal of give and take It was a
spmted meeting and hopefUlly WIt all got up from the tabl" still
fnends and amlcabl.. And from this WlII come the b<-gmning of
negotiations to have a more finite contract with mput from all sides,
And there was a lot of misinformation that had floated around I
think there will b<- a lot of clanfication given as a result of thiS
meeting. There-the county appointee at thiS pomt m time IS Anne
Spencer and she will be given the more s~lfic Charge by !ler chair of
the Board of Trus~ to be a dlfe(t 11~.ISOn between th" Iowa City
Board of Trustelts and the Board of Supervisors So that 10 the future
we hope that this doesn't happen again. The Impression I got was that
since there was such a substantial mcrease, $450,000, that really got
their attention and It wasn't something that they had anticipated at
all. And all I am trying to do IS to give you the Impressions that I got
Not ne(essarily that I agree With their pomt of view If I put myself
fn their chair, I think that I can empathize witll tIlat Any how, Naomi
and I bring this to you for hopefully your approval It IS going to be
placed on tile agenda of tile board of SupervIsors Thursday morning so
tIlat their two members can gain a majority vote for them. And Mr
Gelman and Mr Swaim, Who represent the Library Board, we have an
impreSSion is gOing to ask. their full body for tIlelr maJority opimon
Nov / Actually there were three Library Board m..mbers Who did vote for
tills compromise We expect the Library Board to somehow reach a
decision They are meeting on the 23rd and we are gomg to be last In
terms of thiS agreement and we are not gomg to llave It actually
Signed until, WlllCh IS our Mxt meeting ThiS IS all '{ery mformal at
thiS point and we expt<t both the county and tile library to agree to
What we do. I think we had very much the same comments as WIlat
Steve was saying We had all of us facmg a pOSSible property task
increase The legislature IS stillm session IS What we heard from the
county as well as from the City So. the Library may have to amend
t.heir budget. and put off some capital expenses or Whatever If they
don't get tile complete funding for now It will be tll.,.lr d..C1slon
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Larson/ I am not conc~rn""j abvut !c.;eptrng $2'JO .)v(' ratll..r 122~- 'lUs
y~ar I am sUr~ tIl~ LIbrary Board can I1nd ways to mak~ tIlat ...."rk
Out of their (onUng~n(y or \,llak-ver Wbat r am concerned abvut IS
our comproml~mg on thiS ,ssu" and I tIlmk that .t.~ . ;Igntllcant
compromIse be r~pe.;W 10 the negoUaUVns tv llOd a long k-rm
contract that r~wres the count," to pay ,)nly lor th~ lair value 01 the
use county residents make 01 tlle llbrary TIlat IS all! nave ev"r
wanted NObo<:ly has convmCed m" y"t tIlat that numb"r Isn't
$225,000 But 11 tllat agre<i>ment IS not abl~ to be gotten 10 a COuple 01
meetings we bav~ had already on this I am Wllhng to accept the $208
and get it past thiS But I ....'ll be very dlsappoanted II the county
doesn't agre~ to pay lor the lair share 01 their usage
KUbby / We WIll argue about WIlat lair mean.
Ambr / That is th~ key to all 01 tlllS The conversation started to Hoat IOto
tllat diSCUSSion tlUs afternoon and It went on lor an bour and a half
like that and there was lust no way you can come to a resolution of
tllOS<i> lin" points WIthout havang tlle mput Irom tlle hbrary's director
because she bas the spe<:1flC anlormatlon I know that It IS really gOing
to be a revelation to a lot 01 people Belore I went to tlle meeting this
mOflnng I bad a nice discussion Mtll Lolly and I lound out a lew
things that I didn't know eXisted about various kinds 01 library
memberships tllat <i>:o.st in our own library And the reciprocal
agreements that we bave Mtll other commUnities. There are just so
much inlormation I am as gUilty as anybody Maybe you lolks knew
how this thing really worked But as a result .)1 servmg on tins
committee I learned qUite a bit of mlormation That mlormatlon Isn't
known at all about the supervisors
Larson/ That is my starting pomt IS what the library director deems to be a
lair and ~ultable portion 01 the expense ought to be the starting
point That us politiCians sbouldn't be 10 tllere sayang welll don't
tllink county people use it tllts much or CIty people use It this much
The expert should be helpmg us determme
Ambr / We have to tak<i> the subjectiVity out 01 It and Just put It on th<i> baSIS
01 Wllat IS lactual And tllat is what you can put mto that contract
Nov / The supervisors lelt tilat they did not hav~ enough anlormation on tile
library budget Tbey Mll receive more anlormation
KUbby / They Will get It They WIll get mor.. than they ask lor
Nov / We set a deadline 01 August 1 lor a signed 'oOntract 10r the luture soo
tilat WIlen tlle Ilbrary starts 10 ml.jdl" August 0r early :;"'ptemt-er to
talk at-out next year's budget, th'i'r" Will be a sign".] ,:ol1lra(t
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Courtn",y I I hav.. got t.o g~t my two ,:..nts In h..r", I t1l1nk w.. 3r.. ,:I..arly
negotlatmg agamst ours"lws on thiS and 1 mad" my 1""llngs I/"ry _u
known at our 10mt city county m....tlng 1 """P"'t th"m 00 pay th"lr bill
on thiS I want to put thiS on th" 2 7th m!ormal m"'etUlg lor diSCUSSion
Wh",n w,,'ve got the lull council h"r" I d<'n't think It IS acc~ptabl" I
can certamly be out voted on It w~ 11dn't start thiS thmg and w'" are
negotiating down on someothmg tIlal I tIlmK IS very cleoar;ut ')n ....lIat
It takes to run that op.;ration ,..nd I'll r",p",at my ';omm..nt that th..r",
are a lot of folks that have moved out of 1.)Wd City 1n00 very ~xpenslv~
houses to avoid city taxes and I am not about 00 gIve away city
services to tIlem at any potnt tn tlm" and make our tax payers pay for
it
Nov / We expect those thtngs to happen 10 future contracts
Courtney / I am concerned about thiS years tax dollars We Will put It on for
Informal and I assume there Wlllbe some sort of otticlal action needed
on the 26Ut.
Gentry / Yes You w1Ilhave a draft
Larson/ When we get tnformation from the library board I presume they
are going to tell us how they f*l about thiS comproml~
Nov / They will meet on the 23rd-
Courtney / If services are cut because of the $17,000 They are cut to the
Iowa City residences wIlo are parIng full share of thts and actually
increasing tIleir own taxes by their own votes
Larson/ I want to know the affects of the agreement and 1 am assuming Utat
Utat small amount of mon~y is in contingency somf'wl1ere and won't
have to be a reduction of services But I do want to know wnat they
anticipate doing to make up for that shortfall I also want to know
Whether they believe that resolution of Utis Issue now so that tIley can
plan for the future IS more important to them then $17,000 I know
they are very concern about that th~y need to know one way or the
other and I am all for holding the county's teet In th~ flre and saying
that $225 is the fair number That IS wllat you payor your reSidents
don't have service But as tIlE're are some questions as to wIl~ther we
termtnated the contract on time and as the library needs certamty as
much as they need money In some aspects 1 want to know their
feelings about tile comprvmlse as to tllose detaIls before we vote also
Thanks,
Nov / And we at least did make ourselves clear that we felt that tile contract
was gOing to be terminat.",>:!
Larson/ Can't be now unUI next year If It wasn't t.ermmated With that letter
we sent
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~ntrYi No We dlS<uss,;O IltJgatJon It was my und~lstandmg that you all
r~loKt.;d lItJgatlon as an "ptlOn to s~nd th~ 'fanous groups mto t.hls
me.;ung
Laroon/ 1 wa.n't talkIng about lItigation iu.t (,;,11 th~m that th~ .:ontra<t IS
termmat.;d No serme after JUly I I don't thmk anytlung has to be
lItigat.;d there unless they want to litigate It
Gentry/Well, it servICes were .;ut we WOUld be m court WIth them
demandmg servlc~s after JUly 1
Larson/ That would be theIr .;holce It wouldn't be us ,:hoosmg to htJgate
Courtney / I don't s'* any dlJference form thiS Item and the I]mv sewer Item
wllere they come to us and want to cut and want our ~pl,; to pay
the ditference Okay. Enough said, An}.tlllng Alse
Larson/ Just briefly, you r honor. I wante<! to mentJon that It IS Cnsls Center
week next w,*k And Sunday Apnl 26 IS their annual big fund raiser
and usage of the Cnsis Center went up 64% last year, went up 't6$ so
far thiS year. It IS amazmg to me how a city so prosperous as ours has
to impose such a heavy duty on pnvato? agencies that are partially
pUblicly funded, That there can be so much need that IS continuing to
swamp people and create situations WIlere very hard workln€, ~ple
wllo are paid very little have to deal With an onslaught of truly needy
people The Crisis C~nter's attitude has always been that is you come
in the door and need something we Will gl'/e It to you and they don't
discriminate and try to f!gure out If it IS your fault or wllatever They
just meet the need and the n~ed keeps piling on and I hope that
~ple take that to heart and have a good breakfast next Sunday,
April 26th, A week from Sunday It IS from 8 am to I pm. ThiS is a
gourmet breakfast. Your celebnty pancake ll1ppers will Include ail of
the city council I presume, most of the Board of Supervisors, other
elected officials as well as som" athletic celebrities ot note. And it is
only $5.00 and breakfast IS worth more than that Since the food IS
partially donated, It really makes a difference to them to the tune ot a
couple thousand of dollars So [ hope you will come out to St Wen
Church, April 26th
KUbby I Beware of ,;'lllP creme at th.;ose br~akfasts
The Crisis Center WeBk IS getting merged WIth Anythlllg But Dnve
Week activities Meaning don't get 111 your private ,'ehlcle. Get on
your feet Get on your pogo stick Get on your bike And how thiS is
gomg to work IS that on Sat, May 2, Iowa City TranSIt IS domg nde the
bus for food promotion So that III lieu of your fare, your transit fare.
If you trlllg an item for the Cnsls:~nter you can nde the bus free
And you Will be Manng more about tile Anythmg But Dnve Week
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w~ ar.. gomg to w trYlOg gl Jo ;om~ thmgs mayb.;. ''''Im :lly
.;ouncllmemt>.;>rs anJ mayt>.;> WIth som.. ':Ity .;.mploye.,-; \0,110 Junng m"
w%k of Apnl 26-May 2
Mayt>.;> commg to a council m""tmg or gomg to vn.. .)f you m....tmgs on
a bll.. ram"r than dnvmg
The other thmg I had had tv dv Wlm transIt too ; lust "''ant ~ gIve
some kudos, not only to he d1f~tor but the transIt ,jnvers lor
r~elvmg an award Irom '.lI.. North Am€'ncan TranSIt R,,;..arch
Group .for theIr servlc.. quality I lust thmk It IS Important to m"ntton
those ttngs, Our bus drivers (10 a v..ry goV<l 'vb 01 gl\'lOg Informatton
to people and dealing WIth th..lr sp€'Clal n,;Ws wlule they are on Ih..
bus
One last mmg IS that a lot of tim..s I forg..t th" roots of our holidays
and somebody s..nt me mls pamphlet about me roots of arbOr da>'
And there '!.'as some Informatton In mere that I thought was
Interesting. ..but It Is a mldwest tradition that started 10 1 & 72 Wher..
this man in Nebraska, Jay Sterling Morton. started Arbor Day, knowing
that people on the plainS w..re tearing down the trees for food, fuel
and for shelter and new that the ~ology was very IOtegrated With the
trees. So on the first ArbOr Day a million trees were planted just In
Nebraska. That IS a pretty good splash for the first time something
gets celebrated.".! am glad the Clty is continUing to be IOvolved m
Arbor Day and one of the results of mat lS that we are agam named
Tre.. City USA for our continUing e<!uc:atlonal efforts abOut me
importanc" of planting trees That w~k mat Arbor Day IS happemng,
get out of our car and plant a tree You Will be domg a lot for the
environment. That IS It
Courtney / Lorraine requested that anyone mterested in attending the ICAD
banquet on April lOth to let her know as soon as possible We can get
our names m there
I would also like to report that the fund raiser for llreman Barry was
extr~mely successful The Clnal accounttng total Isn't m y..t but th~
check and profits WIll be at least $3500 And there ar.. a coupl.. more
fund raIsers planned wlllch I WIll try to keep ev..rybody updated on
Ambr/ With so much focus on pUblic oHlclals these days, all the way from
the civic center to the court house to tile wlllte Ilouse about public
oHiclals not doing th" right thmg 1 know thIS group and all ,)f those
that I have serve<! WIth over the years IS 1 felt always had a hIgh
sense of propriety We havo, penodlcalll' as all the counCIlors know, a
group called tile S E Iowa M'.Itllclpal League and penodtcally, about
..very month, w.;. g.;.t an IOvltation tv Jttend "ne of '.lIese meetings m
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S.E Iowa Randy has n..v..r mlss.;d on.. SlOC" h.. has b....n vn councH
But thllY are usually held 10 th" local restaurant or even 10 CIVIC
centers [lust wonder what klOd 01 r..actlon our wnstltu..nts would
hav..1I th"y saw thIS inVItation from S.Ii. Iowa MUOlClp;ll L....gu...
HilIsburl (sp ?), Iowa. Headlin€'d the Diamond Lady RIverboat CaslOo
Fun Fun, Fun On Monday, APril 27 ThIS IS thll regUlarly monthly
m*t1ng
Larson/ I havll nllver been to one 01 those mlletings and I am not going to
this one
Ambr/ They even lOvited us boat load 01 pUblic oll1clals I don't thInk [ am
going to attend that
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ITEM NO. 12.
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CONSIDER A RESOlUnON AUTHORIZINO THE MAYOR TO liON AND
THE CITY CLERK TO AnEIT THE RELEASE OF A LIEN REOARDINO A
PROMISSORY NOTE EXECUTED FOR PROPERTY lOCATED AT 1110
FRANKLIN STREET.
ITEM NO. 13 .
Commanl: Tho ownore 01 1l/0POlly loc'lod II 1110 Fr.nklln StrOll
rocolvod Ilslll'nco Irom lho Clly'e Houslng Rahab/1I1011on Progllm on
OClobor 23, 1884. Tho IlsllllncO WIS lOt I 10111 01 117,800 In lho
IOtm 01 I dacllnlng blllnco lion which oxplrod on OClobor 23, 1881.
Tho Rahab 11I11 wu conllclad on Morch 30, 1882 by MidAmorlc.
Slvlngs B.nk InIOtmlng lhem lhol lho Il/oporty hae boon eold Ind
roquolllng . rolOOlo 01 lion. Slnco Iho lion hu oxplrod, II cln now bo
ralOOlod.
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CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ADOPTINO A POLICY FOR THE ACQUISI.
TION OF VACANT lOTS FOR EXPANDINO AFFORDABLE HOUSINO
OPPORTUNITIES IN IOWA CITY.
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Commanl: An IIIOtdlbll houslng policy, wheroby lho CllY Icqulroo
oPll/oll/lOIO, voc.nllols, will ollow lOt lho now ConlUIICllon 01 IIIOtd.
Iblo houllng unI11, Ot lOt lho roloclllon 01 ollltlng IIlllS oJelld lOt
damollllon wllh the purpoea 01 molnlllnlng lhem u IIIOtdlblo IIllle.
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Commanl: Tho Clly Ipprovod lhls eubdlvlllon In OClobor 1988.
Allhough lho Clly doll nOl OIdlnlllly ral...o I lubdlvlslon from lho
elormwllar mlnlgamanl OllOmanl Igloomonl unlll eulllclonl glound.
covor Is Olllblllhod Ind mowlbla, 0 lion romllns on lho subdlvlllon Ind
Croll.. I cloud on lho proporty 111101. Bulldore Ind locII llnonclll
Instllullons now IInd lhomlOlval unablo 10 mlrkallocal mortgagoe on
lha eacondlry markol.
This IImllad rolma ogroomonl would romovo lho oxllllng cloud on llllas
10 proporty In Maadow Rldgo Subdlvlllon, wllh I lion lrlnslonlng 10 lho
OSCIOW fund 01 18.000. Thll ralOllo would allo pormll mlrkotlng 01
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Courtney IMoved by Larson s~onded by Ambr DIScussion
Kubby I One of the thmgs that a few of us had as!:.,.j to 00 added that IS In
here and I wanted to make sure the commumty knew was that the
pollcy before did not Include Investtgatton of usmg land trust. But
now the policy does not rule out that posslblllt'l when It becomes
feasible WIth a large enough pll?<:e of land or a lot of smaller pIeces of
land being put together I think this IS realunportant as an opuon for
keepmg the cost ot the housing attordable and m perpetuity
Nov II am also a little concerned about tlus because It IS a general fund
expense that was not m our budget and IS not part of our procunng
and I don't know why I mIssed tlus. When we brst discussed tlus I
thought it was gOing to be CDBG tunds or housmg authority funds to
purchase these lots for $75,000. And be<:ause It IS general fund
because it wasn't part ot our ph., 1 am a little hesitant
Atklns/ What we antiCipate<! doing was that 11 a proJect were to come along,
It would be either a contingent expense or have to go to our working
capital to pay tor It It would be number 1. Secondly, don't rule out
the HoUSing Authonty reserves They do have sufficient reserves
available to them tor projects such as this. It be<:ame a question ot
what to budget. Just how much money did we want to set aside for
the thing
Nov / But it wasn't In the budget
Atklns/ No. We did not put a line item in the bUdget for this
Nov / And this IS a strong pOlley change Without having It In the budget It Is
a little dlsturbmg.
Atkinsl Well, the polley was coming along at the time the budget was being
prepared, I didn't have a number that I f",lt comfortable
recommending to you, So I didn't put one In In the future budget
year we can certamly do that. These thmgs Will come along as they
come along.
Kubby / You're uncomfortable in terms of the process of not having a ph
about this polley
Larson/ I lust don't want to make protects wait until tit" next budget process
though it It IS a worthy protect
Nov / I would Ilke at least an assurance of a ph before each lot is purchased
Atkins/Oh. I think we have to do that. I think for land acqUIsition, don't we
have some kind ot hearing process We don't
Gentry I Disposal not acqulsltton
Atkins/ If that IS what you would prefer we can certamly arrange that In the
polley that it will be In the form of a heanng before you
Courtney I Will tJlat delay the process
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Atklns/ No In most Ulstanc\?S WIIat you would b.;. domg IS kmd of like- that
on€' lot we bought We- Just lSSU€, a contract If 1 !tnd-If th€'y rell m€' It
IS a good Ide-a, I can sign a contract and the- clause to be put m IS thiS IS
conting9nt upon approval by th9 City council, So I can 9nt.>r mto th9
agreement, lock the- land up, bnng It back to you It you re-)€'Ct It, we
are not out anythmg
Horow/ I Just need assurance that at the same time that we are ,jomg thiS,
we are also loo\{mg at the mvestigation 01 commumty land trusts
With the othe-r groups In the CIty that are dOing this
Atkins/ There IS no doubt you have our atrention on land trusts It has come
out loud and clear from you
Kubby / There is one other sentence in ll&re that I am concerned about Not
enough to vote against this b€'Cause I think the over all goals are
important But It says tile goal 01 the city IS to maintalO the balance
between long term affordabillty and upward mobility of home
ownerShip mar\{et through equity bUilding. And I am not sure that
the city's responsibility is to help people build eqUity.
Nov / This is a really strong change, I think we have some obligation lor
affordable rental housing. I am not sure that we have funding
obligation for equity.
Kubby / I don't mind making sure people are in houses so that their finances
b€'Come stable over a couple period. Tll&y can then afford to move to
another house of this same level and then they can start bUilding their
equity on their own,
Larson/ I am With you on that I brought that up before. I don't think this
locks us into that 1 don't want people getting rich because we helped
them buy a house.
KUbby / I am not even saying that that is the intent of people getting into
houses. This policy says that our goals are balancing those two things
and I don't thlOg thatls the Obligation of the city That is not WIly we
are dOing it And that Is WIIat the poltcy says I wouldn't mind that
sentence being a little less dramatic
Nov / I wouldn't mind deleting,
Atkins/I! you want to make some changes. I would pr€'f€'r that you lust
defer the thing and we will bring it back We have walred this long.
It Is not a rush on this thing.
Courtney / I am not quite sure I understand WIIat th€' problem IS Hit me
once more l.I.'1th It
Atkins/ The eqUity bUilding r thlOk I understand The language implies that
we are a party to aSSiSting someone m buildmg equity so that they can
move on to some othoi'r property
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KUbby / Th.. languag" h"r.. says tM goal of th.. city IS balancing and
maintaining long term affordablllty and up'Ward mobll1ty and hom~
own"rshlp I don't know that I want th~ goal of our tax dollar
Investm~nts to be that. That may b~ a end result That might happ.?n
I don't 'Want to state It as a goal
Courtney/ I don't mmd that goal on the house Itself I thmk that IS th.. goal
of everyone to have that happ..n. What I tried for all along Is the land
remains statlc and It IS only the appre<:lation on the house that th~y
r~aJlze. I think ~verybody IS o?ntltled to that If th"y are making the
Investment In the house and If we can som"how through land trust or
Whatever maintain the land as no appr~Ciation Just kind of stays
th"re. Then more power to them if the house goes up in value and
they movo? into the next one. And this lower priced one we can
provide to somebody else
Kubby / I mlght be, in my mind, If I put stress on the word balance. I don't
have as much problem WIth It It IS a concern that I 'Want US to have
continUing dialogue on.
Larson/ I think It is a general enough policy and the details of the
implementation of it will come
AtI'Jns/ The intent was to be general. But evidently.if you are reading it
specifically, I don't want to discourag~ you from sending it back to
them,
Kubby / The document says 'our goal is' That IS a definitive statement that
we are malCtng to the community and people can come back to us and
point to our own document.
Nov / That is right. And we are also saymg not only IS this a goal but It is a
goal to use general funds, We are gOing to take tax payers money
from this homeowner and use It to help that homeowner, That is a
policy we have to think hard about
Larson/ So What do you want to do Do you want to pull this thing
Horow/ I woUld like to see if we can get some dIfferent language in there
Karr / There is a motion on the floor
Courtney/It was Larson/ Ambr
Motion and seconded have been withdrawn
Atkins/ Table it to the next meeting. We WIll get back together qUiCkly on
the thing. If we have any trouble WIth It we can bring it back to you
the next meeting telling you What the concerns are Okay
Two weeks IS fine
Courtn"y / Moved by Horow to d"t"r Second"d by Nov Discussion
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G~ntry I Do you also want to consid~r th~ procedures 10 terms of a resolution
aUthorizmg Steve to negotiate and bnngmg back the purchases for
your ratiflcation,
Atkinsl You can simply wrl~ In thl)rl) soml)thmg IIky thy cIty managl)r IS
authorized to enter mto agreements pending council ratiftcation or
something like that Usually m real estate deals you've got to move
fairly qUickly so [ can lOCk It up TMn you have th~ ability to say yes
or no later on. I am assuming you don't want to discourage that
process.
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CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZINO THE MAYOR TO SIO AND
THE CITY CLERK TO AmST AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF
IOWA CITY AND ECOlOTREE, INC. OF IOWA CITY, IOWA, FOR THE
PREPARATION OF PLANS AND THE PROVISION OF SERVICES FOR THE
LANDFILL PO~R TREE PLANTINOS.
ITEM NO, 18.
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Commonl: ThIs plOIOCI will OItobllah poplar 1100 pllnllngs Illho CIly
ownod landfill. TrOll will bo pI.nlod on lho IlndliU covor 10 roduco
orollon ollhe covor ond 10 roduco Infillrltlon lheroby roduclng IOlcholo
IOtmlllon. TrOll will 0110 bo plonlod In bOIdor 11011 10 plovtdo wind
brook, vllU.llnd nollO blrrlor, Ind 10 holp c.lch blowing UllOt. FulW. A ~
.groomonll will bo nogollllod lOt IUIUlo pllnllngl.lOloClOd horvolt,.nd
mllnlonanco. Tho COil 01 doslgn "MCOS, 11001 .nd Ilrll,yolr mllnto.
nanco Is '38,888.
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CONSIDER A RESOLUTION FI DING THE NECESSITY TO INSTITUTE
EMERGENCY PROCEEDINGS, APPROVINO AND RATIFYING PAYMENT
AND ACCEPTINO THE WORK FOR AN EMERGENCY SEWER PROJECT
AT THE NORTH COURT CIVIC CENTER ADDITION,
Commonl: TNs rOlolullon plovldol on OflOr-tho.loCI OUlhOtlullon 100
occoplltho wOtk lOt lho IOlocltlon Ollho Boor Crook SIOtm Sowor .nd
noo/by unlllry ..wor lhol Wit noclllory lor conltrucllon Ollho NOtlh
COUll CIvic Conlor Addlllon. Slnco INs work wal unlntlclpllOd Ind
doIlY Ollho work 10 accommodllo lho ulull blddlng plOCOII would
hava rOlullod In Ilgnlllclnl dolay.rolalod oxpon..s, omorgoncy ropllr
procoodlngs WOIO Inlllllod as plovldod In lhq Iowa Codo. Thls II lho
IInal SlOP In lholo procoodlngl. Tho llnal COil 01 lho WOtk II
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Courtney I Mov,;.j by Kubby, s';';vnd""j by Horow DIscussIOn
KUbbyllhave two questions I'm really glad tIlat v'll' city attorney saw
sometllmg m here and warnold tile consultant tIlat som~ne would w
asktng tlUs. Slle's very tnSlght!UI and knows us well now So I have a
fE'W questions for Dr LIcht. If I could I saw tIlat you brought m some
cuttings
Licht! I brought a tree
Kubby / We coUld take tIlat home on our bikes One of my questions IS tIlat
one of tile reasons we're trYing to do tlUs IS to prevent groundwater
contammation
Llchtl That's right.
KUbby / And m getting tile cuttings gomg. you're talkmg about expliCIt
written permi- notification to the city that youll bE' applying pre- or
post-emergent herbicides
Licht/Um-hUh.
KUbby / So I'm concerned about What IS that herbicide and are tIlere
alternatives to tne normal market things that would work, like turkey
dung or cougar dung to keep tne deer away or Whatever?
Licht/ Sure.
KUbby / What will you be pUtting on?
Licht! Okay, right now, our concern is tnat we have brome grass grOwing.
Brome grass, for any of you that have tried to plant trees IS a very
aggressive type of plant. It WIll ktII trees It will actually remove the
water from the root 20ne. So What we have here IS What we're going to
be grOwing. This is a poplar cutting. It was stuck in the ground four
weeks ago. And IOU can see the root zones that we are going to be
utilizing to pull tne water out of tne ground. It you have a dead tree,
It won't do that, and so we're planning fight now to use Roundup
hE'rbicide, It breaks down quickly to baSically help us get w%d control
only for the first year. I've be.n assured by the people Who operate
the landfill that lllere are mulches avallable WE"re planning on
applYing compost Which I also believe Will prOVidE' some weed control.
And it necessary, it may be necessary to apply somellling called
Surflan, WIlich is a grass control And again, these are approved, lllese
are what the Iowa DNR are recommending. Now we have said, with
llle help of Ed Engroth, that we may lust use mulch and do no
herbiCides. All my research with llle univerSity has no herbiCides
mvolved So I'm not an hHblclde fan also. but as It says In the
explanation of llle project, that we do need weed control llle first
year So, KarE'n. I know that you're very concernE'd about that. and we
want to use thE' minimum So we'll use at the lowest rate to still get at
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least a pause In the weed and grass growth sv we ,an g€'t th€'s€' tr*5
to be the canopy crop
Kubby I I had a question about, J read through thiS and there was some
things about ~valuat!on, but I wasn't r9ally sur9 how s~lflc W9 W9r9
going to get to make sure that this IS actually dOing what it's meant to
do In or partiCUlar case I know In your study SiteS it's workmg
successfUl and I'm glad we're gOing to try thiS, but what kinds of, are
you going to be Involved in doing some studies to make sure thIS IS
functioning the way It'S e(f1clent
uchtl One of the Ime items In thiS contract IS to wnte a proposal for getting
the amount of funding not paid for by the City to actually measure tl,,,
water budget So our maJor concern on the landfill cap IS to use a plant
that can pullout the ground, so much water that there IS no water that
leaks past the root system dUring the groWIng season and dehydrates
the soil cap during the growing season so that after the leaves fall off
First that soli has to rehydrate, wlOter comes, nothing moves down
when the soil is froze, so that when sprinb comes the leaves com.. back
out again and recapture the water. so that wo? have no infiltration
That's th.. goal. in Oregon, where we have a succ..ssful cap that's
demonstrating this, we have instruments in the ground down to five
feet in the ground to demonstrate there's M water leakmg by the tree
roots, That is our goal and that is wllat we hope to perform on this
establiShed site. What Will happen in the first year, we'll put in four
nests of what we call suction tensionmeters at one and three feet in
the ground to measure and we're expecting to see some water removal
during the growing season. That type of work will be expanded in the
second and third years. We're doing this kind of work out at Amana
With poplars and farm pollutants that are getting oft of farm lands
into cr.-eks and so we are experiencing this kind of research right no
KUbbyl Okay. And has thiS been done In Iowa on a landfil\7
Licht! Not that I aware of
Kubbyl So this is a first for Iowa
Lichtl That's right And but in Oregon, it looks like tho? OrO?gon Department of
Environmental Quallty IS about to lOaM the use of densely planted
poplars as part of the closure plan for a landfills operating permit
When that happens there are 12 landfills that are going to use thiS
system
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Uchtl I don't belleve that that IS the case PrObably Chuck SchmadekE- .;an
talk about thiS Right now It IS more of a prototypE- system
KUbby I So are we haVing to do oth"r things on top of thIS In addition to thiS
to meet- So How does that IOterfere WIth th" kind 01 stUdIes to show
thiS WIll work as an alternative to the tradlt10nal ways If we arE-
doing two thlOgS at once.
Uchtl Let me answer part of that. It IS my understanding that 10 Iowa, for
landtllls that w"re closed before October 1939, WlllCh IS Where ",.e are
working They r~ulrw a two foot CO'7er and that right now IS Where
w~ ar~ worklOg. We are not worklOg on the newest closed facilities
that require an unpermeable membrane. We are trYlOg to understand
how It is that we can k"ep leachate formation from ralOfall in these
older fills, That if you were to go our on a landfill in JUly-there are
cracks in the ground and things like this. We are trying to get a cover
crop so that hopefUlly we can keep the water out of these older tiled
and closed areas, specifically. And If
Kubby I So it is really not Interfering because If this were an alternative We'd
need to put a cap soli on anyway for the trees as well as to have some
kind of membrane there
Uehtl One other thlOg. We Will be adding compost that has been already
produced and we are expecting to add a layer probably 4-6 inches of
compost on this area too.
KUbby I Of our own compost. City produced compost.
Ucht! Right. So we are trying to get that back into the 'leO system And our
focus is to hopefUlly rejuvenate a more normal type of ecOlogy out
there and not just grasses but also d more varied habitat
Larson/l just want to know If you sell stock 10 your company,
Uchtl You Wouldn't want to do this With all the stress. Right now it has a lot
of potential but we're in tIlis time of trial and we're trying to figure
out What does work, These trees are the result of trying about thirty
different varieties We Ulink, It'S 10 Impenal, Carolina. it's probably
the best grOWing tree, And 10 three years out at Amana, Where we
planted these very densely, the average tree was 13 feet, 9 inches tall,
and that was grown in rows that were, trees were planted a foot
apart on 40 inch rows. so '7ery densely We're planting t..'lem With
greater spacing up here so WI! can get tractors and we can managl!
them better But it IS our hope that it proves to b~ a syst"'m that
works and meets the needs of landfills and the cItizens that liVE-
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Kubby I How much do __ spend ill a year on fm..s for litter control'
Atl:msl Deliberately we don t spend any
I tlunk we had to pay about a S 300 line about a year ago That was
part of th~ admlOl~tratlv" ord"r 1& that corr&<:t. A coupl" years ago.
Sehmadeke/ln addlbon, we have awut the equiValent of tllr"" full time
people lust plckmg up lltter It IS a big problem
Nov I We don't spend it on fines We spend It on Utter control
Courtney I How many of tllese tree are 100bally bemg planted
weht! Twenty five- about twenty five thousand
Courtney I It IS a lot Of poplars I noticed that part of It to here says selected
harvest I am eunous wllat you do Wltll poplar wood that IS
harvested. I only ask that because at one pomt 10 time I got some
miXed in Wltll some fire wood and It doesn't burn worth a darn.
Uehtl These are not Lombardi poplars I forgot to say this Which
everybody has a bad atbtude about because tlley were disease prone
and tlley broke down and people had to clean them up. We are
growing the energy equIvalent per acre per year of a thousand gallons
wortll Of fuel 011 energy With a bout the third year and among the
plants tlley are among the fastest groWIng plant out tllere, That
implicates issues Of green house gases and different tllings. We are
looking at making tllis into pelleted fuels and things like this. In
Oregon, wllere we are growing them, we have tlle pulp and paper
industry waiting for It. They are wmg used right now In oriented
lIOOr parbcle board. They are a source-there are dIfferent chemicals
that can be made from this We are makmg bold statements that we
feel this has a potential for a malor commodity crop in tlle future
That is in the future. Right now we are focusing on the environmental
benefits and the derived value from that. But we do expect to
harvest. And we won't be burmng them in the fire placesl
Courtney I By mistake, somebody got me some of those They are too wet of
wood to burn
Lichtl You didn't let them try-
Courtney I Great Very int~resbng
Any oUler diSCUSSion
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Pago Ie
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CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDINO CIIAPTER 27. 8ECnONS 4'
AND 87, AND CHAPTER 32, SECTION 42, OF THE CODE OF ORDI.
NANCES OF THE CITY OF IOWA CITY, IOWA, THE CHAPTERS BElNO
ENTITlED 'PlANNlNO" AND 'SUililiVIsION REOULATlONS" BY
ADDING THERETO NEW SUBSECTIONS ESTABUSHINO THAT COST8
OF ENOINEERING EXAMINATION BE PAlO BY THE DEVElOPER IFlRST
CONSIDERATIDNI.
Commonl: TNs IOvlslon will .1I0w lho Clly 10 bill dovolopers lOt lho
dllOct COlli 01 pill ond pI.n rovlow by lho Englnoorlng DIvision. ThIs
rovlaw 100 II oxpeClod 10 r.ngo 'rom tBO,oo 10 12.400,00 do pending
on lho comploxlly Ollho ploposal and lho quallly 01 tho plans lubmll'
lod. Commonll on lhls propolOl woro sollcllod from oroa dove/opers
Ind onglnoorlng firms. A copy ollho 011O commonl rocolved hit boon
Includod In tho InlOtmltlon plckOl.
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ITEM NO. '8. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 24, ENTITlED,
"MISCELlANEOUS PROVISIONS I OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF
THE CITY OF IOWA CITY, IOWA, BY ADDINO 24-8, 24.7 AND 24.8
REQUIRINO EMPLOYEE EDUCATION, AND PROVIDINO PENALTIES FOR
VIOLATIONS THEREOF ISECOND CONSIDERATIONI.
Commont: This Otdlnonco will provldo lor oduclllng omploy... on lho
11110 Ilw concornlng clglrollo sllol. Coplol Ollho dr. II Otdlnonco woro
mallod 10 III buslnoss.. Ind rOlallors. No commonll woro rocolvod It
tho public hOlrlngl.
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Courtney I Mov.,a by Nov, s.;..;ond~d I:>y KUbby DIs,;usslvn
I(ubby / One of the purposes of thiS. I am assumlOg, IS to mak~ sure that
people .;ome 10 WIth some worl<. done AS close to flOa1 ~S poSSible So
that our people don't ha ve to flmsh It up
Fosse/ That IS corre<:t. That IS a part of the wIlole thlOg To IOsure that we
have qual1ty plans comlOg 10 10 the office
I(ubby / Are you experiencing that you are not r~elvmg quallty plans
FOSSe! Occasionally we Jo re<:elve plans that are not qual1ty
!lov I We are e~ting that most people are golO& to pay the minimum f~
on this and submit a quality plan
FOSSe! I don't expe<:t that most of them WIll be down vn the t30 range No
I think it will 00 sometlung higher than that e:!cept for some of the
simply LSNRD and LSRDs. And a typical subdiVision might run 10 the
neighborhood of t60- t80 per lot
Larsonl Would you respond to Mr Oakes concerns Do you have thOSe 10
your mind fresh
Fosse! Sure, One of hiS concerns was looking at a fixed fee for the reVieW
process. That would accompl1Sh one of our goals That belOg 10
finding an additional source of revenue for staff But the se<:ond goal
of encouraging quality plans and completely thought out plans would
not be achieved by that.
I(ubby I And the goal isn't really that We ue trymg to make money from
some off the wall way or some unrelated way but tllat development is
causing the need for us to have the kind and number of staff and to
use staff time for this. So it is related and we are trying to make It so
that if the development causes more staff time Then the price
accommodates that.
Fossel That is true. As an example, last summer We had an Industrial
development going, The we literally had enough plans that we could
wall paper the new additional to the civic center with it They would
bring it In and say thiS IS great because thts would be costmg us a
fortune in any other town wIlere they pay for each submittal Tllat
also is a disadvantage to the Ii:! fee because If they do want to make a
small revision and they give a new submittal t!ley pay the full fee
Whereas if it is a small reVISion, we lust need an hour to lOOk at It,
they only pay for that amount,
Courtney I This is the second go around on thiS OM If I remember nght. We
talked about this once before
Atkinsl You sent It bacl<. asl<.lllg us to ,:ontact the developers ",1111ch RiCk did
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Courtney I It has t.aken a long time j almost forg,)t about It It has b~n so
long ago All ot a sudden here It IS agam What about when we come
up With changes and they have tv go back and r"submlt At", .....'"
Wal vmg f ee& then
Fossel The key here on thIS IS we are gomg to charg€' tor th€' engm""nng
revIew WIIere we are zeromg 10 on storm ....-ater calculations, grades on
streets and things Ilke tllat Most ot the changes tllat are s"nt back t
tlle dev€>loper are concept related and we won't 00 chargmg for that
revi"w. That IS we won't charge for us slttmg around and argumg the
ments ot tlllS vs. tllat ThIS IS tor cranking tllrough tlle numbers to
make sure tllat It is going to work
KUbby lit tlle numbers needed to be recranked tllose-would tllere bave to
be another payment. It the d€'velopment ....-as changed so mucb
Courtney I Which we do occaSIonally do RedeSIgn some developments on
occasion.
Kubby I So there would be a double fee It numbers had to be crunched a
second time.
Fossel That is nght It sometllmg got tllat tar m tlle process and we had
reviewed construction plans, wlllCh is WIIat tlllS IS all about, and then
tlle WIIole development changes and it comes back to us again, The
construction plan phase The way It IS written now, tlley would get a
double charge The big revisions come at the preliminary plat stage
and that is prior to WIlen we review construction plans
Courtney I How wide spread ot distribution ....-as t.hls How many letters did
we send out.
Fossel We sent out 13 to developers and engmeenng hrms tllat do tlle ;::ans
and specs tor those
Courtney I There ....-asn't a need to send it to mdlvldual builders
Fossel No The builders are tarther dOWllm tlle development cham. We
didn't see tllem as bemg directly Impacted by thIS
No... I Probably engineering !lrms are more directly impacted than anyone
else.
Fossel We didn't get any response trom any engmeenng firm
Larsonl [ am just concerned tllat. the engmeenng hrms didn't let tllelr
clients know
Fossel We sent it to their clients as well as the engmeering hrms
Larson/.. send it to SIX of sev€'n developers
Fosse/l can get you the Ilst If you would 111:e It
Larsonl No It IS lust- It IS not everybody that might develop 10 town
Courtney I I guess bet ore we get through second and tlllrd I would Ilke to see
tlle list just 10 case we mIssed somebody
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Kubby I Don't you t1l1nk th.. grap,; Villi> IS pr,;tty fast awut It
Courtn..y / I Just can't ~11..ve that nobody call&<! me on thIS Last ttme I had
sev..raJ calls on this
Ambr / Rick, did you send on.. to the- Hom.. BUIld..rs Assoclatton
Fosse/ No I didn't
Ambr / Would you do that pl..as.., (think LotS Batterman
Atk1ns/ Sreve- is the- current president, Isn't l1e Our Sreve One or our rehab
Insp&ctors is the pr&Sld..nt ~t that to the-m right away
CourtneY/AnY other discussion,
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MEMORANDUM
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10: City Council
FRl>>l: CI ty KI",~or
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Appolntmonts to tho OOllgn Rovlew COhItttOO .nd 80.rd or Eloctrlcll
Ex.mlnors .nd Appo.ls . H.y 12. 1992
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