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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1992-11-24 Bd Comm minutes -" ~\2,\ j MINUTES RIVERFRONT AND NATURAL AREAS COMMISSION OCTOBER 21, 1992 - 5:30 P.M. SENIOR CENTER CLASSROOM DRAfl MEMBERS PRESENT: Roger Bruner, Barbara Hinkel, Jan Hubel, Don Otto, AI Rebal, Nancy Seiberling, Dean Sullivan, Larry Wilson MEMBERS ABSENT: Steven Ford, Loren Horton, Debora Liddell STAFF PRESENT: Moen, Denney, Davidson, Neff CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Bruner called the meeting to order at 5:36 p.m. Moen introduced Charlie Denney to the Commission, the new Associate Planner on staff. She explained that Charlie will work one.hall time for the Johnson County Council of Governments and one-half time for the Urban Planning Division of the Planning and Community Development Department for Iowa City. She indicated that he would be the Riverlront and Natural Areas Commission staff assistant. Moen also introduced Jeff Davidson, Executive Director of the Johnson County Council of Governments, to the Commission. Davidson explained that this is a new situation with the shared staff position. He said that the department is trying to integrate the land use planning lunction with other planning activities, such as transportation. He explained that this arrangement coincides with the federal government giving priority to this type of arrangement as well as providing funding. He said that Denney will be assigned to exploring alternative modes of transportation, such as trails, bikeways, and ride sharing. Davidson noted that the new Federal Transportation regulations require that these issues be addressed in planning activities. In response to a question Irom Wilson, Davidson explained that Iowa City has a bikeway plan that was created in the late 1970's. He said that completion of this plen coincided with the decrease in funding for this type of program. Davidson said Denney will begin to update this document. He said there will also be specilic projects that Denney will explore, such as the extension of the Coralville connection to Fifth Street. He noted that the University 01 Iowa has also requested that there be a survey done by JCCOG of bike use in the community. Wilson asked for additional information on the routing study, Davidson stated that he hasn't heard of any additional inlormation. He noted that approximately two years ago, the Commission requested that JCCOG assist them with five items. He reported that JCCOG has completed the signage project and Denney will review with the Commission the other projects in the future. PUBLIC DISCUSSION: There was none. CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 19. 1992. MEETING AND THE SEPTEMBER 16. 1992. MEETING: Wilson moved to approve the minutes of the August and September meetings as submitted. Otto seconded. The motion carried on a 7-0 vote, ~r35 " 'I I , , . ,'.," , I , , -" Riverfront & Natural Areas Commission October 21,1992 Page 2 DRAfT FY93 WORK PLAN: Moen referred to the memorandum which identified committee responsibilities. She noted that these included projects from the Commission's annual report and the urban planning division's work program. (Hinkel arrived at 5:50 p.m.) Moen explained the purpose of the work program and noted modifications she made to the program concerning the Waterways Committee's goal to review and recommend changes to upgrade the floodplain development permit process and the Trails and Access Committee's goal to support efforts to establish e river trail between Sand Lake and the east bank of the Iowa River. Moen indicated the Commission needs to consider if the projects still represent what they want to achieve and that members to the committees must be appointed. She indiceted thet Liddell had expressed interest in serving on the Woodlands Committee and the Trails and Access Committee. It was egreed that temporary chairpersons would be appointed simply to organize the first meeting 01 the committees. Waterwavs Committee - Moen stated that concern had been expressed that Commission review of floodplain development applications could delay the development process, but she noted that the Commission had made the commitment to meet as needed to c,omplete this item. Wilson said that in the luture the Commission should discuss whether it is appropriate to d'elegate this type of responsibility to a committee. In response to a question from Bruner, Moen stated the property owner is limited on how much additional liII can be placed in Sand Lake. She reported that the City has hired an appraiser to determine the value of the land and of a 50 loot wide trail adjacent to the river from Sand Lakes io Napoleon Park. She stated that Tom Kennedy is suggesting that he would dedicate a 30-foot wide public access easement between Sand Lake and the Iowa River. She said staff generally feels that a 50-foot access easement Is needed at a minimum and possibly the entire area between the lake and the river should be dedicated. She noted that the Planning and Zoning Commission will discuss this item again on November 5, 1992. In response to a question from Bruner, Moen stated that the appraisal will determine whether the City will purchase Sand Lake. In response to a question Irom Wilson, Moen agreed to check on the ownership of the triangular piece of land west of the creek and south of Highway 6, Sullivan, Rebal, Otto, Bruner and Hinkel all agreed to serve on this Committee. Trails and Access Committee - Wilson reported there is a need to place other signage on the trail. He said that at his position at the University 01 Iowa, he has been assigned to a task force to investigate how to increase salety at the dam under the Burlington Street Bridge. He noted that currently the University 01 Iowa meets the state standards, but there are questions of whether or not this is adequate. Hinkel indicated she would also like to serve on the Woodlands Committee. Hubel said she would like to serve on the Trails and Access Committee and on the Wetlands Committee. Moen said that the individual committees can determine the dates lor project completion. Otto was appointed as temporary chair to the Woodlands Committee; Sullivan was appointed as temporary chair to the Waterways Committee; Wilson was appointed as temporary chair to the Trails and Access Committee and Hubel was appointed as temporary chair to the Wetlands Committee. ,)'1!S i r, rJ'I!5 -" Riverfront & Natural Areas Commission Octobar 21, 1992 Page 3 DRAFT Bruner asked that the committees meet prior to the Commission's November meeting in order to appoint permanent chairpersons and to review the dates and projects. Moen suggested that Commissioners might want to consider roles they might want to undertake with regard to the Iowa River Month activities. In response to a Question Irom Otto, Moen explained that the tree preservation ordinance would address preservation of existing trees and not adding trees to a site. She reported that the City has hired a codification firm to, among other things, develop ordinances for the City. RIVER CORRIDOR TRAIL UPDATES: 1. Ned Ashton Gatewav - Moen reported that the Parks and Recreation Commission continues to support development of this park with parkland acquisition funds. She said that the City Manager is concerned about the property tax freeze and was looking at the parkland acquisition lund as a source lor funds for the development of parks. She said currently all allocations are on hold based on the Parks and Recreation Commission's desire to have the dollars used primarily for acquisition and only lor limited development of parks. Moen explained that the City Manager was concerned that the allocated lunds were lor only Phase I 01 the project and ha was unsure where future funds would derive from for additional phases of this project. Wilson noted that even Phase I was a loan Irom the parkland acquisition fund. There were no lurther updates on the River Corridor Trail segments. Moen indicated thet the Commission's packet included a concept plan that was developed by FIRST members for a trail system along the Iowa River, She stressed that this plan has not been adopted by the entities that will be implementing the development of the trail, She explained that it was provided to the Commission for their Information. She noted that stalf has concerns regarding the proposed Sturgis Ferry arboretum because there was previously a landfill on the site that might inhibit the ability of plants to thrive. She said there is also concern regarding encouraging the use of a culvert beneath Highway 6 for access to the trail. Wilson said that the Commission should consider endorsing the plan and said this should be discussed at the November meeting with a possible vote. He said that if the Commission does decide to endorse this concept plan, then they should thank those who have developed it. Moen suggested inviting the plan designers to the November meeting. Wilson stressed that there will be a need to determine what the cost 01 the trail would be if it is going to be promoted. He also asked thet portions 01 the Stanley Plan be provided to the Commission members. In response to a question Irom Rebal, Moen stated that the Iowa Avenue to Burlington Street segment 01 the Iowa River Corridor Trail is scheduled to be completed in the spring 01 1993. DEVELOPMENT ITEMS: Moen reported on the vacation 01 Old Dubuque Road. She explained that the original proposal was to vacate all 01 the road as it crosses the ACT property, but it was determined that some of the roadway property is owned by the Iowa Dept. of Transportation (IDOT). She said the ordinance is now written to vacate the portion 01 the road on ACT property and, upon conveyance of the lOOT segment of the right-of-way to ACT, the balance of the right-ol.way would be vacated. . "I l , , ~, Riverfront & Natural Areas Commission October 21, 1992 Page 4 DRAfT With regard to Bluffwood, Moen stated that the developer has until October 31,1992, to find a buyer for the Haddock cottage on the site. In response to a question from Rebal, Moen stated that the grading has continued and that a new grading plan was submitted. Seiberling asked if there has been monitoring of the location of the equipment around the trees that were marked for preservation. Moen stated that she would check with the Public Works Department to determine if suitable measures have been taken to protect trees that were identified for preservation. Seiberling stressed that it's important to verily if the requirements and agreements were met with this project. She said if they have not been met, then there should be compensation to the City in the form of fines based on the value of the trees. Hinkel noted that there has been extensive grading along 12th Avenue in Coralville. Hubel noted that this is similar to the grading that has occurred on First Avenue. Moen noted that these projects are within the jurisdiction of the City of Coralville. Wilson stated that property owners need to demand a change from the design firms, but said that it seems to be difficult to change the process as it has been occurring. COMMITTEE REPORTS: These were deferred to the November meeting. COMMISSIONERS REPORTS: Otto reported that he had attended a conference and learned that organizations such as Iowa- Illinois and Trees Forever do cost-sharing projects for the installation of trees. Seiberling noted that these organizations olten work with neighborhoods and can also assist in determining the best location lor trees. Otto stated that Dean Oakes is interested in rezoning an agricultural area to suburban residential in Johnson County and also wants to develop an area that is already zoned as residential. He said the County seems to be resistant based on the capacity of Sugar Bottom Road. He said it is likely the County will only approve the request at a lower density. Bruner said there was also concerns with well interference for this area if additional wells are dug. Bruner reported that he had received several calls recently. He said one was about the cutting of trees south of town near the Russell Salvage area and one was about an area near Solon. He said that these calls demonstrate that there is a concern in the community regarding these issues. Bruner stated that there are two vacancies on the Commission and that four applications have been received. He reviewed the applicants for these positions. FIRST REPORT: Wilson reported that the October 17, 1992, bike ride was an overwhelming success. He said the credit should go to Casey Cook, Terry Dahms, Feather Lacey, and Bob Sayer. He noted that the project raised approximately $4,000 and that some of these lunds will be used to promote planning and for future fund raising, ol'i!S : ~ ~ ~. Rivorfront & Natural Areas Commission October 21,1992 Page 5 DRAFT ADJOURNMENT: Hubel moved to adjourn the meeting at 7:01 p.m. Otto seconded. The motion carried on a 7-0 vote. Minutes submitted by Mary Jo Neff rncl().2i ! I i ~r'isl - .. , I ! j , ; I ! i i I I,,, ". "1' ........" , '-. '\)~) ~ - - - MINUTES IOWA CITY HOUSING COMMISSION OCTOBER 13, 1992 ROBERT A LEE COMMUNITY RECREATION CENTER - ROOM A MEMBERS PRESENT: Benjamin J. MOORE, James L. HARRIS, Charles EASTHAM, Roger J. REILLY, Jack MCMAHON (8:50), Robin PAETZOLD-DURUMERIC (8:55) MEMBERS ABSENT: Paul EGLI STAFF PRESENT: Doug Boothroy, Gary Klinefelter, Marianne Milkman, Marci Lindsay, secretary Virginia Stroud Mary Nugent, Andy Rocca, RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL: NONE MEETING TO ORDER: 8:40 AM by Chairperson Moore MINUTES: Motion to approve Minutes of August II, 1992, meeting, was made by Moore, Seconded bY,Harris, carried 4-0. INTRODUCTION CHARLES EASTHAM, NEW HOUSING COMMISSION MEMBER - MOORE Eaetham was appointed by City Council to fill unexpired term left vacant by Jeffrey Foreman. HOUSING CODE AMENDMENTS - KLINEFELTER Klinefelter discueeed propoeed amendments to the Housing Code eections 17-2, l7-5(i)(1)(c), l7-6(c), l7-6(d) and l7-7(q). Section 17-2 clarified definition of Fraternity/sorority from the State Fire Code and the current HIS practice. Section 17-5 comes from Uniform Building Code and raises occupant load to 10 or more. Boothroy stated Housing Code ie not more reetrictive than UBC. Section l7-6(c) spelle out what has been enforced except for the last sentence. This change deal with fire extinguishers disappearing from common areas and also is the exieting State Fire Code since 1982. Housing Code can be more restrictive. Housing Commiseion recommends redrafting to the UFC and request "every" dwelling unit to have 2AlOBC fire extinguiehers by a specific date to be determined by City staff. Motion was made by Moore, eeconded by Harris, carried 6-0. Klinefelter will redraft amendment for Housing Commission to review at the next meeting. (Harrie left 9:35 AM). Section l7-6(d) reflects new HUD etandard for smoke detectore in all Section 8 Certificate, Voucher and Public Houeing unite. This is also consietent with the Uniform Building Code. Section l7.7(q) will aleo be rewritten for presentation to Housing Commiseion at next meeting. CD HOUSING UPDATE - MILKMAN - Review of CDBG Grantee Performance Report - Lindsay Lindeay reviewed the 1991 GPR for COBG and stated this report is a , ':1 'I ; , J'If61 ....,... ".., ~. Page 2 MINUTES IOWA CITY HOUSING COMMISSION OCTOBER 13, 1992 summary for the year and HUO monitors on thie report. _ Review & Discussion of Oraft 2nd Year CHAS - Lindsay The draft of the CHAS Annual Plan is for the federal 'fiscal year 1993. The Table on Pages 2-4 liete the prioritiee set forth in the original five-year 1992-1996 plan. Updated goals are listed as one-year objectives, even though the City may not get to do all. _ Status of HOME Applications - Milkman c1.D8G Greater Iowa City Housing Fellowship has bought one duplex from ~ funde. The statue of the eingle family rehab project for applicants who do not have enough equity may be known by the next meeting. The Rundell Street houee hae been sold and the family 'has moved in. CCN REPORT - MILKMAN At the August meeting of .CCN members toured CDBG funded projects in the community. HOUSING AUTHORITY REPORT - BOOTHROY copiee of the new Fair Market Rente effective 10-1-92 ehowed comparieon of the FMRe effective 10-1-91. Houeing Commission membere received Statistice for October, 1992 in the packets. AOJOURNMENT: Motion to adjourn at 10:07 AM wae made by Moore, seconded by Reilly, carried 5-0, APPROVEO BY: Benjamin J. Moore, Chairperson I rJ'/fltJ ! I I I I I I I I , I I .. I I , ~. '{)\2 ') 'J .' ~,', t " , , po'{1. , MINUTES BROAOBAND TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 21, 1992 - 5:15 PM CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CIVIC CENTER MEMBERS PRESENT: . Trey Stevens, Paul Casella, Cordell Jeppsen, Tim Finer, Roger Christian ~ . . MEMBERS ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Shaffer, Brau, Helling, Burnside OTHERS PRESENT: Casey Ashe, Bill Blough, John Wiegh, John Hess RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL None. LIST OF MATTERS PENDING COMMISSION/COUNCIL DISPOSITION Triennial review and cable TV relranchising/renewal process. SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION The BTC will hold a relranchising public hearing to get public input Wednesday, November 1 B at 7:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers. Ashe reported the Library Board will soon vote on the library's Access Channel Needs Assessment. Ashe is working to resolve an equipment problem which has prevented PA TV Irom lulfilling their agreement with the library. Hess reported the PA TV Board recently passed an equipment purchase package of $16,000. A new program series policy is being drafted. PA TV submitted their Access Channel Needs Assessment to the City October 8, All Needs Assessments Irom all access channels will be sent to Rice, Williams Associates by the end of October. Rice will come to Iowa City to discuss these assessments as soon as she has had a chance to review them. PATV's annual membership meeting will be November 19 at 7:30 p.m. in Meeting Room A of the library. The BTC and anyone interested is invited, John Wiegh reported the ECC has submitted their Access Channel Needs Assessment and that Kirkwood is considering buying additional programming beyond telecourses for local playback. Burnside is researching TCl's practice 01 gathering taxes on Iranchise lees. 810ugh reported that a recent installation promotion generated 864 new subscribers and pushed the system over 300 miles and 21.400 total subscribers. Shaffer reported the Iowa City Cable TV Office will be moving into the North Court Addition 01 the Civic Center on November 10. Shaffer highlighted several items in the FY1994 proposed cable TV budget. $15,000 has been budgeted for additional consulting fees, $49,000 in capital outlay for production equipment, including a vehicle, and $35,000 will be translerred to the library for cable-related uses. Additional overtime hours, due in part to additional informal City Council shoots, have also been budgeted. Regarding refranchising, the Community Needs Assessment has been sent to over 70 community agencies and organizations. The Technical Audit Report should be arriving soon. Finer again required linancial information as requested by the Iranchise agreement. Finer expressed dissatislaction with TCI's lailure to provide the requested information, ~ ' J~f7 ~. Broadband Telacommunications Commission October 21, 1992 Page 2 CALL TO ORDER Tha maeting was callad to order at 5:20 p.m. APPROVAL OF THE BTC MINUTES Casella moved to approve the September 16, 1992, minutes. Seconded by Finer. Unanimously approved. SHORT PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS None. ANNOUNCEMENTS OF COMMISSIONERS None. LIBRARY REPORT Casey Ashe reported that the Iibrarv's Access Channel Needs Assessment will be going before the Library Board tomorrow lor a vote. Ashe is working with PATVto resolve a problemwith equipment which has prevented PA TV from providing multi-camera shoots as specified by their lease with the library. PATV REPORT, Hess reported the PA TV Board passed an equipment to purchase package of about $16,000, which included two SVHS camcorders; SVHS editor, controller and player; a SVHS playback VCR; and two monitors. A draft of the new program series policy was also approved. Community producers may apply for a series contract to have PA TV produce the series on a limited six-month basis. A final draft should be ready by December. Applications lor new series will begin to be accepted in January or February. PATV's Access Channel Needs Assessment was submitted to the City October B. PA TV's annual meeting will be November 19 at 7:30 p.m. in Meeting Room A of the Public Library. Everyone's invited I ECC REPORT John Wiegh reported thet the ECC has submitted their Access Channel Needs Assessment to the, City. Wiegh noted that Kirkwood may send someone to a refranchising workshop at the University 01 Wisconsin November 16. Kirkwood is looking to improve their contribution to Channel 27's programming and is considering buying additional programs beyond the telecourses they currently offer. LEGAL REPORT Burnside reported she is researching collecting taxes on the franchise fee. TCI seems to be collecting a tax on the Iranchise fee and it does appear to be inappropriate at lirst glance, but ~Vf7 , '1 " , ; I , , ; I i I I I I I I I , , , " ! ~ : ...... ~ .... - , , , '" Broadband Telecommunications Commission October 21, 1992 Page 3 Burnside has not completed her reseerch. Bill Blough noted a previous ruling Irom the State Attorney General and of Ie red to provide any documents which might clarify the issue. TCIREPORT Blough reported that TCl's recent installation program generated 864 new connections, bringing the total system to over 300 miles and 21,400 subscribers. The launching of the digital audio service, DMX, has been delayed. Additional outlets are being wired in the schools to better utilize XPress/XChange and Cable in the Classroom. An in-service will be held for the schools demonstrating the services in November. In regards to the recently passed federal legislation re-regulating cable TV, TCI has taken a wait and see approach until the FCC promulgates rules. Blough said the' basic tier requirements Iliay force cable systems to install addressable converters to provide 18 basic channels and pay per view programming. This level of service will be regulated by the local governments with prices set by the FCC. There is some concern that the FCC may not have a large enough appropriation to meet their additional responsibilities. No local broadcasters have approached Blough to negotiate a deal pursuant to the retransmission consent language of the new legislation. Two lawsuits have been filed challenging the retransmission consent, copyright fees and must carry provisions of the legislation. Blough believes it will take 2-3 years before the legal issues and FCC rulings become clear. Blough noted that as the regulatory and legal issues develop, they will impact the refranchising process in Iowa City. ' CABLE TELEVISION ADMINISTRATOR REPORT Shaffer reported that the City Cable TV Of lice will be moving into the North Court Addition 01 the Civic Center on November 10. Shafler met with the reporter lor the Press-Citizen who will be covering City affairs. An article may be appearing prior to the November 18 public hearing. Shaffer received a total 01 12 complaints, most of which dealt with the $5 late lee, lour about lack 01 notice regarding billing due dates, one about property damage, one about signal quality and one question on taxing the franchise fee. Shaller highlighted several items in the liscal year 1994 proposed cable TV budget which is now being prepared. Additionel lunds are proposed lor overtime pay for the Media Unit due to the possibility 01 cablecasting the City Council inlormal meetings and the night hours involved in the regular Council meetings. $15,000 is budgeted for additional refranchising consulting lees. A new position, a computer multi'media specialist, is proposed, but there is a hiring freeze at the City. A capital outlay of $49,000 is planned lor production equipment and a vehicle. $35,000 will be transferred to the library for cable.related use and $25,000 transferred toward the purchase of cable TV ,space in the North Court Addition, The Cable TV Department has already transferred $75,000 of the $145,000 cost for the space in the North Court Addition. $25,000 will come from the fiscal year 1995 budget and the balance in liscal year 1996. 'The total budget is about $276,000. FY95 franchise fee revenues should be about the same ligure with an expected 4% rise. CABLE TV REFRANCHISING/RENEWAL Shaffer reported that the Community Needs Assessments were sent out to about 70 community agencies and organizations to gather input on how they might use cable. Rice, JI/f7 - ~- " - .:.:..-- '" I I I i I ......'....'h~..'\' I. ,,' '",;, '" ,_, ',' . 'I I , Broadband Telecommunications Commission October 21, 1992 Page 4 Williams will procass and analyze the results. The report on the technical audit should be arriving soon. Jean Rice will discuss the results of the Needs Assessment when she arrives in town. The next task after any public hearings by the BTC end/or Council will be to develop a Request for Proposal (RFP). The Public Hearing on November 18th by the BTC will focus on gathering public input rather than answering questions. Finer again requested linancial information from TCI, especially prolit.loss statements and information on the TCI/Heritage transler. Finer noted that quarterly revenue statements are now broken out better, but expressed concern the City has accepted the revenue reports for the last seven years without knowing how the figures were generated. Stevens noted that Heritage had been audited two years ago. Finer requested the linancial information in question be provided by TCI belore the November 18 hearing. Blough said he has been working on generating the figures, but it will involve applying a breakout formula to isolate the ligures Irom a number 01 systems lor balance sheet information and capital. TCI believes they can provide the information for the past two years but beyond that is questionable. Any figures presented will be unaudited. Blough said TCI is not purposely engaging in delaying tactics, Blough said he will try to get the information to Finer before the November 18 hearing. Finer noted the information has been requested specilically by him since May. Casella noted that requests for linancial information have been made well before Finer was on the BTC. Stevens noted that the franchise agreement specifically states what types of financial inlormation is required and TCI has neither provided the information nor designed an accounting system which can meet the terms of the franchise agreement. Shaffer noted that the manager 01 the TCI system in Maquoketa, Doug Nix, was able to supply the type of linancial information requested by the BTC lor the Maquoketa system. Finer said he assumed that TCI has some method 01 evaluating proiit or loss in the Iowa City market or they wouldn't be interested in negotiating lor a new Iranchise. Finer also noted that TCI must be prolitable if they plan to retire all their debt by 1995. '-;', PUBLIC DISCUSSION None. , . '; ADJOURNMENT It was moved by Casella and seconded by Jeppsen to adjourn. Unanimously approved. Adjournment at 6:20 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Jl/i7 ----. ',,- - '" ~ "'J'f) MINUTES IOWA CITY PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION NOVEMBER 5, 1992 - 7:30 P.M. CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBERS r--......::,:.," _.. j :.~. -:"0 -:: 1 ," . ,'.. I t \I'J~ b'~ ~,~~~~:::~'~::.~>~~...~ u S~bj~cl to Il;J~iaVal MEMBERS PRESENT: Ann Bovbjerg, Casey Cook, Pete Cooper, Sally Dierks, Richard Gibson, Tom Scott, George Starr MEMBERS ABSENT: None. STAFF PRESENT: Moen, Miklo, Denney, Bormann, Davidson, Neff CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Scott called the meeting to order at 7:40 p.m. RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL: 1. Recommend approval by a 7-0 vote, of SUB92-0021, the preliminary plat of Park West Subdivision Parts Two, Three and Four, a 39-lot, 31.08 acre subdivision located on the south end of Teg Drive between the east and west portions of Aber Avenue. 2. Recommend approval by a 6.0-1 vote (Gibson abstaining), that if monies are donated by the developers of Park West Subdivision, the monies be directed to the Mayor's Youth Employment Program or a like agency in the City to be used as matching grant lunds. 3. Recommend approval by a 7-0 vote, of SUB92-0022, the preliminary and final plat of a subdivision of Auditor's Parcel H, a resubdivision of portions of Lots 6 and 7 of West Side Park Subdivision located on the eastern portion of West Side Drive, subject to approval of legal papers by the City Attorney's Office. 4. Recommend approval by a 7-0 vote, of SUB92-0023. the preliminary plat of Southwest Estates, Part Five and Part Six, a 39.lot 15.50 acre, residential subdivision located at the end of Phoenix Drive, subject to approval of the preliminary stormwater calculations by the Public Works Department prior to Council consideration, 5. Recommend approval by a 7.0 vote, of SUB92-0024, the final plat approval of First and Rochester Commercial Subdivision, Part One, a two-lot commercial subdivision located on the southwest corner 01 the intersection of First Avenue and Rochester Avenue, subject to approval of legal documents by the City Attorney's Office and approval of construction drawings by the Public Works Department prior to Council consideration. " PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF ANY ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA: There was none. , Ji.( n , 'I I , , I " "j.': r I ,I "', Planning & Zoning Commission Novambar 5, 1992 Page 2 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ITEM: Public discussion of a proposal to astablish standards pertaining to the secondary access policy of the Iowa City Comprehensive Plan. Davidson reviewed a staff memorandum dated October 12, 1992. He stated that based on the Commission's discussion at their November 2, 1992, inlormal meeting, item 4 on page 3 will be changed to reflect concentrations of population and item 5 on page 3 will note that the escrow will be required lor private developers and he will work with Bormann to use stronger language regarding any commitment by the City. He stated that the proposed standards have been distributed to approximately 30 developers in the community for comment. He said that written feedback has been received by one developer and this response has been provided to the Commission. Public discussion was opened at 7:45 p.m. Bruce Glasoow. 834 North Johnson Street. stated that the old axiom applies, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." He said that the Planning and Community Development staff hasn't said that there is a problem, but they are proposing a new ordinance. He stated that developers would have a concern that if they sell a lot to Systems Unlimited for construction of a group home, the developer might not be able to continue with the subdivision. He said that he feels the Planning Department is more concerned with downzoning and writing ordinances than planning. He said decisions should be made on where Hickory Trail, Scott Boulevard and Court Street will go. He said it seems to him that the developers are the planners in the' community. He noted he has a tract off of Prairie du Chien Road that he's had lor the past 22 years while he has waited for Foster Road to be extended. He explained that lunds were authorized to plan the extension of Foster Road, but no plan was ever developed. He said that people preler to develop outside 01 Iowa City. Scott noted that page 3 01 the memorandum cites the legal reasons for denial of a subdivision if there is not secondary access. Glasgow stated that these are simply reasons, not legal reasons. He said other reasons to deny a subdivision include the lack of sewer service and sewer capacity. Scott responded that these are reasons related to the lack 01 inlrastructure and this would include secondary access. He stressed that the political process differs Irom the actions taken by both stalf and the Commission. Scott asked Glasgow if he leels that using designated traffic volumes would be better than using arbitrary numbers of lots. Glasgow respondad that it would be best to look at each proposed subdivision and how it would aflect traffic in an area. In response to a question from Scott, Davidson stated that Hickory Trail is built as a local street, but functions as a collector. He stressed that the City recaives complaints Irom property owners that Hickory Trail is currently overburdened with traffic. Glasgow said there needs to be a plan showing where Scott Boulevard and Hickory Trail will go. He said that making rules regarding secondary access should be dalayed until there has been more planning. Gibson stated that while he agrees with the substance of what was said, he stressed that staff doesn't operate in a vacuum, He 8sked Glasgow if he would ba willing to layout the devalopment plan for all of the property he owns in a given area. Glasgow responded that ~1?8 T ' , , , Planning & Zoning Commission Novembar 5, 1992 Page 3 he's waiting for the resolution of a few issues with regard to the property he owns along Scott Boulevard. He indicated that his development along Hickory Hill Trail could be completed soon. Gibson stated that even though it might be commercial development, it still faces the same problems with piecemeal development. Scott noted that even if a development is laid out in advance, there is still an incremental approval process. He said that , in many cases, staff would like to do comprehensive planning, but can only address what the developer has put in front of them at that time. Scott noted that this political process must still be completed with each development. Moen noted that the JCCOG Arterial Street Plan has been developed by staff and adopted by the City Council. She indicated that it shows the extensions of both Scott Boulevard and Court Street. In response to a question from Dierks, Glasgow stated that the City should review all the vacant land in Iowa City and determine the locations of streets if staff feels qualified to do so. Scott stressed that the incremental planning process inhibits both developers and the City Irom doing what should be done with regard to planning. Glasgow noted the change in alignment of Scott Boulevard. Scott stressed that that was a political decision. Scott expressed concerns with requiring a property owner to put lunds in escrow for the extension 01 secondary access if the extension would dead end at a property line. Bormann stated that the escrow is intended to address situations where the developer has agreed to provide secondary access and it is in the developer's power to do so. She said the escrow then allows the City to complete the extension if necessary. She said this would only apply if all of the access is on the developer's property and the developer has agreed to provide the access. Scott stated that this situation might not ever apply. Davidson agreed, and stated the language was added at the Commission's request. Bormann stated it still would be a good idea to retain the language. Bovbjerg noted that with out-of-seque'nce development, the developer bears some of the infrastructure costs. She asked if a developer could build a street to collector standards in order to increase the number of lots that could be served. Davidson responded that staff would review the appropriate functional class of streets. He noted that staff uses the JCCOG street plan in reviewing subdivisions. Duene Bolton. Route 3. Tioton, stated that he is the largest property owner on the Peninsula. He said requiring secondary access for this area would mean that a bridge would need to be built to Coralville or over ravines, or a road would need to cross a golf course. He said that he assumes the nead for secondary access is based on emergency situations, but he said that on the paninsulary tha road conditions are generally the same throughout. He said there was a desire to have a quiet subdivision in this area without a great deal of traffic. He said that staff has discussed widening Foster Road in the past. He emphasized there is a need to consider the topography of an area and stressed that the peninsula is surrounded by the river on three sides and has ravines and a golf course. Gibson stated that the idea of a bridge to Coralville has some appeal to him based on the need for additional access to Coralville. In response to a question Irom Gibson, Bormann stated that the proposal is to consider the specilic factors of each development and use judgment based on the circumstances. In response to a question from Gibson, Bormann stated that a list of criteria gives legal guidance, but individual judgment can still be lact-specific to the subdivision which is being reviewed. Moen noted that item 1 is a mandatory guideline and replaces the 2~ ~:~ requirement. She ;;~88 , " 'I , , ~. Planning & Zoning Commission November 5, 1992 Page 4 stressed that items 2-5 are flexible and allow for discretion and are used informally b'/ staff presently. Public discussion was closed at 8:23 p.m. Dierks moved to defer discussion of a proposal to establish standards pertaining to the secondary access polley of the Iowa City Comprehensive Plan to November 19, 1992. Cooper seconded. Dierks indicated that there are too many unanswered questions for her to vote at this time. Scott stated he has a problem with including an escrow requirement because he is afraid it will become a part of the process and he can't recall a time when secondary access wasn't provided when it could be provided on the developer's property. The motion to defer carried on a 7-0 vote. ZONING ITEM: Public discussion of a proposal to amend the Zoning Ordinance. Section 36.11, Low Density Multi-Family Residential Zone (RM.12), to prohibit the construction of more than one residential structure on lots which are less than one-half acre in size. Miklo reviewed the staff memorandum dated November 5,,1992. Stalf recommended against amendments at this time. Dierks asked if larger buildings could' be constructed. Miklo responded that a 1200 square loot lot could have 3-4 units. He said the current regulations allow for two duplexes. He said that if only one building were allowed, then the result might be a four-plex. He said this result should be considered with regard to the scale of the surrounding neighborhood. Miklo reviewed the setback requirements and noted that two buildings must be separated by a distance equal to the height of the tallest building unless they are connected in some manner. Public discussion was opened at 8:31 p.m. Judv Livertsen, 947 E. Market Street, stated thet one of her neighbors has counted 500 cars going down Market Street during a 20.minute period. She said that because of the high traffic volume, the only sanctuary for the neighborhood is the alley. She noted that children play in the alley and the concern is that if there are buildings constructed up to the alleyway, this use of the alley might be disturbed. She noted that the backyards currently allow lor Interaction among the neighbors. Andrea Gates. 931 E. Market Street. stated that their neighborhood has a unique situation because they are surrounded by Market, Governor and Jefferson Streets with no on-street parking allowed on these streets. She noted that Evans Street has houses with multiple apartments so the on.street parking is Iilled on Evans Street. She noted that a number of older homes in the area have been converted to apartments with parking now occurring in the alleys. She said additional development would increase the level of alley traffic and would ;(~!f ... -', Planning & Zoning Commission November 5, 1992 Page 5 also increase the density of the neighborhood. She stressed this could destroy the lunction and character of the neighborhood. Robvn Robbins. 919 E. Market Street. stated that a number of students currently reside in the area and sha has had to call the police several times ragarding parties. She said that safety is a concern with her and that she moved to this area from the South Dodge Street area for mora of a neighborhood faeling. She's now faced with tha need to fence her yard beceuse the alley is being used as a street. She said if the density in the area is increased, the traffic in the alley will also increase. She said that the City improved the alley in the spring and this has resulted in an increase in speed in the alley. She also expressed a concern that an increase in population could increase the crime rate lor the neighborhood. She stated in the densely populated neighborhood on South Dodge Street, properties were olten vandalized. Sandv Coonev. 923 E. Market Street. stated that she Is concerned with traffic in the area. She noted that most of the residents have vehicular access only to the alley and not to streets. She said she is also concerned that this neighborhood is not included in one of the designated neighborhoods in the Historic Preservation Plan so she is alraid the neighborhood might become a catch-all for apartments. She said many in the neighborhood would like to be included in a preservation district. In response to a question from Dierks, Miklo stated that this area probably wouldn't be qualilied for designation as a historic district but could possibly be designated as a conservation district. Irene Lekin. 938 E. Market Street, stated that she has lived 83 of her 85 years in this neighborhood. She stated that the housing has stayed about the same over the years. She stressed that they have good neighbors and this is a good location and she has never wanted to live anywhere else. She noted that there was a high level of traffic in the neighborhood and limited parking available. ,'; Nancv Carlson. 1002 E, Jeflerson Street. stressed that those present speaking at this meeting are the property owners in the area. She stressed that they have invested their money and time in their homes. She said il they lelt that the proposal to have two buildings on a lot was a sign of progress, they would support such a proposal. She emphasized that their homes are major investments for them. She said that several of the lots are large enough for the construction 01 two buildings and the property owners have chosen not to procaed in such a manner, She said that many 01 the residents are lower income and have chosen the larger lots without the linancial benefitof an additional building. She said they would only ask that others coming into the neighborhood respect what the current neighbors respect. She noted that the investment by the current property owners is approximately $1 million. With regard to traffic, Carlson noted that Jefferson Street carries over 4,000 cars per day, the north side of Evans ~treet carries approximately 2,000 cars per day, which includes semi trailers and dump trucks. She noted that Evans Street is only 25 feet wide with a 40-loot clearance. She said thet for its size, Evans Street probably has the highest traffic count. She said that the alley on the block currently functions as a street because there are so many one-way streets in the area. She said that their neighborhood is not proposed to be in a conservation district so there would be no control on the design of what is built on a lot. She noted that the houses are similar to those in Goosetown and are small so carriage houses would compromise the neighborhood. ~arlson stressed that the houses in the neighborhood are affordable. She :l~~8 ,. , I , , --. Planning & Zoning Commission November 5, 1992 Page 6 said that if there are two structures on a lot and the lots can't be subdivided, this would encourage non.resident ownership. She said absentee landlords generally don't care for their property as well as resident owners. She said that if an inexpensive older home is demolished, it will never be replaced in the neighborhood. She also expressed the concern that property values could change in a manner that would make additional redevelopment in the neighborhood likely and the properties would no longer be affordable to lower income property owners. She noted that additional development could also result in a need lor the alley to be upgraded. Bruce Glasoow said he sympathizes with the neighbors and admires this area. He said that he hopes the City solves the problem, but he said he feels a solution should just cover this area and not all RM.12 zones in the City. He indicated that he has plan for a subdivision in an RM-12 zone which would contain more than one building per lot. Cindv Cook. 58 Wakefield, stated that she owns property on both Evans and Jefferson streets. She said the Commission should consider the investment she has made for develop- ment of these properties. She stressed that she wants the development to lit in with the . neighborhood. She indicated that if the City makes a change for this area, it should also apply to all RM-12 zones in the area. She noted that this would affect a lot of investments by individuals. She said that not all absentee landlords don't care properly for their property and said that the City shouldn't change their rules in the middle of the game. In response to a question from Scott, Cook stated that the other investor is Charlotte Muller. Jim Muller, 1125 Sevmour, stated that he 'disagrees with Glasgow regarding singling out this area. He said any changes should be city-wide if at all. Andrea Gates stated that putting another house on the lot wouldn't be in keeping with the neighborhood so she doesn't understand how Cook can be sympathetic with the area. She noted that on Clapp there is a lot with an additional house, but stressed that it abuts the street and not the alley. She noted that this is a unique area unlike other RM-12 areas because it abuts three one-way streets. Public discussion was closed at 9:02 p.m. Dierks moved to defer discussion of a proposal to amend the Zoning Ordinance, Section 36- 11, Low Density Multi-Family Residential Zone IRM-12I, to prohibit the construction of more than one residential structure on lots which are less that one-half acre In size to December 17, 1992, and to direct staff to Investigate the posslb!lltles with regard to this Issue while addressing both staff's concerns, the developers' concerns and the neighbors' concerns. BovbJerg seconded. Gibson said he is not certain staff can do as requested. He said that he hopes there is e way to deal with this problem and said he believes people should have a reasonable expectation that the character 01 their neighborhood won't be changed dramatically. He said he also leels it would be realistic to single out this area and there is no need to overlay any change on other RM-12 zones, Cook stated that this is a burden for staff and someone will be unhappy with the result. ~'IrK " ."'~. ". ". -". _.-. . \ .,.~-~~-~~, - n' , ~ ': n, f'l. -:-:;-]-~-I:t.--~_. .-, '"'. . . '-, Planning & Zoning Commission November 5, 1992 Page 7 Scott stated that he believes there should be some degree of stability in a neighborhood. He said one charge of the Commission is to provide a reasonable expectation of stability in existing neighborhoods and he stated he leels the City owes people'this obligation. He said it is reasonable to single out this neighborhood and other like areas. Scott indicated that he moved to the north side in 1971 and bought two properties for investment purposes. He said he could have developed up to 16 units on these properties. He noted that either he or his attorney appeared at every Commission meeting to ensure they had exhausted all administra- tive remedies to prevent the downzoning of these properties. He said he eventually decided that the neighbors wanted to maintain stability in the neighborhood. He said' when the property was downzoned in 197B, his development potential went from 16 units to 5 units. He noted that one of his properties is a single-family residence and the other is a duplex. He said that developers take risk with the purchase of rental property and development properties. He said he does not have as much empathy for someone who invests in a property lor development as he does with someone who invests in property for a home. Scott said if neighborhood planning is ever going to work in Iowa City, the City needs to listen to the neighbors. He said he wants to see a solution to this problem and noted that most of the neighbors have supported a change in order to prevent the construction of two buildings on one lot. He said he also wants an answer to the question regarding the connection of two buildings on one lot. He recalled that in the late 1960's and early 1970's, the practice of connecting structures was common. He said prior to his appointment to the Commission, it was his understanding that this practice was made illegal. He said if this is not the case, he intends to request staff assistance to write an ordinanca to do so. Cook stressed that he does not want to jeopardize tha construction of accessory units which allow lor owner occupied homes while increasing affordability of housing. Tha motion carried on a 7-0 vote. DEVELOPMENT ITEMS: 1. SUB92.0021. Public discussion 01 an application submitted by K-M for preliminary plat approval of Park West Subdivision Parts Two, Three and Four, a 39-lot, 31.08 acre subdivision located at the south end of Teg Drive between the east and west portions of Aber Avenue. (45.day limitation period: November 9, 1992.) Miklo reviewed a staff report dated November 5, 1992. He noted that a revised plat has been received which addresses all of the deliciencies and discrepancies. He noted that John Dane has stated his intention to dedicate 13 acres of open space to the City. Staff recommended approval as submitted. Public discussion was opened at 9:26 p.m. There was none. Public discussion was closed at 9:26 p.m. ~~f{g : . - ... ..... ..., ,. 'I I , , r ,..T - , "I I , -, Planning & Zoning Commission Novamber 5, 1992 Page 8 BovbJerg moved to approva SUB92-0021 , the preliminary plat of Park West Subdivision Parts Two, Three and Four, a 39.lot, 31.08 acre subdivision located at the south end of Teg Drive betwean the east and west port/ons of Aber Avanue. 'Gibson seconded. Dierks asked for c1arilication of Danes' offer to dedicate property to the City. Miklo stated that most of the area is in a Iloodplain and would be difficult to develop. He stressed that the dedication is not in exchange for plat approval and is not being required by the City. John Dane, 4082 Dane Road, slated that at an informal meeting he said he didn't know if the City wantad the land and he was then contacted by Terry Trueblood of the Parks and Recreation Department. Dane indicated he also recaived a letter from Steve Atkins indicating that the City was interested in owning a portion of this property for parkland. Dane indicated it is his desire and intention to donate this land to the City and has a letter to that effect to give to the Commission. He stressed that the donation is not contingent on any approval and that it will be dedicated sometime around January 1, 1993. He said his only expectation with regard to the dedication is a credit on his income tax and nothing else. He expressed concern that the tract is shown as 13.98 acres on the plat and he is concerned as to whether or not this Is the correct ligure. He said that Larry Schnittjer, MMS Consultants, will verily the acreage. Cook thanked Dane lor his generosity. He said he had spoken with Gene Kroeger and John Moreland, who are interested In having their subdivision connect with the parkland that is going to be donated. Cook stressed that his approval is not contingent on this type of connection. However, he noted that the developers have indicated they would donate $5,000 to the City to allow for this connection and to be used as matching funds ILr public grants for an agency such as the Mayor's Youth Employment Program. The vote carried on a 7-0 vote. Gene Kroeger presented a letter offering $5,000 for the improvement of the park. He said that they are glad to make this type of donation. Cook read the letter into the record. Peg McElroy Fraser, Director of the Mayor's Youth Employment Program, explained that they currently have live conservation corps and lour of these are local. She said this is the type of project that would be appropriate lor the conservation corps and is similar to others they have completed in the community over the past 10 years. She noted that these lunds could be used to leverage public and private lunds. Cooper movod to recommend that the City Council accept the donation Irom the developers of Park West Subdivision, namely Kroeger and Moreland, of the gift of $5,000 to go toward the enhancement of access to Willow Creek Park. Cook seconded. J'/ff ; .......-.--.. " ,: '. . '. . ,'. .,..',!':, <.., ."J-" . . ':'~I"'I~/r-j-~-~~-+'[~I~iL~_" ;: .-~':, "~'~' ~'.' .~~".. . . ,<..oJ..; '. .I'.~.':, . "_ , , , ' . ".fJ.. -., Planning & Zoning Commission November 5, 1992 Page 9 Bormann suggested that Moreland might want to make the donation when this issue reaches the City Council. Gibson said he is uncomfortable with the motion because there seems to be a connection between the donation and the approval of the subdivision. Scott suggested withdrawing the motion and making a recommendation simply to the use of any donation. Cooper and Cook agreed to withdraw the motion. Cook moved that any monies donated by the developers of the Park West Subdivision be directed to the Mayor's Youth Employment Program or a like agenoy In the City to be used as matching grant monies. Cooper seconded. The motion carried on a 6-0-' vote. (Gibson abstaining.) ! , i I ,; ! Gibson said that he does not want to vote against this recommendation, but said that he cannot vote in favor because it is an unseemly situation. 2. SUB92-0022. Public discussion of an application submitted by John Moreland for preliminary and linal plat approval of a subdivision of Auditor's Parcel H, a resub- division of portions of Lots 6 and 7 of West Side Park Subdivision located on the east side of the eastern portion of West Side Drive. (45-day limitation period: November 30, 1992.) Miklo reported that the deliciencies and discrepancies have been resolved and stalf would recommend approval subject to City Attorney's Office approval of legal documents prior to Council consideration. Public discussion was opened at 9:50 p.m. There was none. Public discussion was closed at 9:50 p.m; BovbJerg moved to approve SUB92.0022, the preliminary and final plat of a subdivision of Auditor's Parcel H. a resubdivlslon of portions of Lots 6 and 7 of West Side Park Subdivision located on the east side of the eastern portion of West Side Drive, subject to approval of all legal documents by the City Attorney's Office prior to Council consideration. Cook seconded. The motion carried 7-0. 3. SUB92-0023. Public discussion of an application sublnitted by Seville Corporation for preliminary plat approval of Southwest Estates, Part Five and Part Six, a 39-lot, 15.50 acre, residential subdivision located at the end of Phoenix Drive. (45.day limitation period: November 30, 1992.) Denney reported thatthe preliminary stormwater calculations have been submitted, but have not yet been approved by the Public Works Department. Staff recommended approval sl1bject to approval of the stormwater calculations by the Public Works Department prior to Council consideration. Public discussion was opened at 9:52 p.m. . ~_....._~-.. "'-...-,,,........,. ,. . ;'Ift - -- . 1._--"----___ -.. Planning & Zoning Commission November 5, 1992 Page 10 There was none. Public discussion was closed at 9:52 p.m. Dierks moved to approve SUB92-0023, the preliminary plat of Southwest Estates, Part Five and Part Six. a 39-1ot. 15.50 acre. residentlal subdivision located at the end of Phoenix Drive. subject to approval of the stormwater calculatlons by the Public Works Department prior to Council consideration. Cook seconded. The motlon carried on a 7.0 vote. 4. SUB92-0024. Public discussion of an application submitted by Bruce Glasgow for linal plat approval of First and Rochester Commercial Subdivision, Part One, a 2-lot commercial subdivision located on the southwest corner of the intersection of First Avenue and Rochester Avenue. (45.day limitation period: November 30, 1992.) Miklo stated that revised plats have been received and the deliciencies and discrepan- cies have been resolved. He noted that if and when the driveway is constructed across from Tudor Drive, the stormwater inlet must be reconstructed. He noted that this should be illustrated on the construction plans. He said that staff would recommend approval subject to approval' of the legal documents and construction drawings prior to Council consideration. Public discussion was opened at 9:54 p.m. There was none. Public discussion was closed at 9:54 p.m. Cooper moved to approve SUB92.0024, the final plat of First and Rochester Commercial Subdivision. Part One, a 2.lot commercial subdivision located at the southwest corner of the Intersection of First Avenue and Rochester Avenue. subject to approval of the legal documents by the City Attorney's Office prior to Council consideration and approval of the construction drawings by the Public Works Department prior to Council consideration. Cook seconded. The motion carried on a 7-0 vote. 5. S-9007. Public discussion of an application submitted by Paul M. Kennedy for preliminary plat approval 01 Kennedy's Waterfront Addition, Part Three, a 30.29 acre, 11.lot commercial subdivision located west of Gilbert Street, south of Stevens Drive. (45-day limitation period: waived.) Staff had no additional inlormation. Public discussion was opened at 9:55 p.m. Larrv Schnittier. MMS Consultants. stated that the applicant requests a deferral while he is waiting on a permit Irom the Corps 01 Engineers. J t/8~_:{ ..-, ""!'",''' " , , , I I '. I' i I I I I I I , I I ! ! I ::/ ~. Planning & Zoning Commission November 5, 1992 pege 11 Public discussion was closed at 9:56 p.m. Dierks moved to defer 5-9007 to November 19, 1992. Starr seconded. The motion carried on a 7-0 vote. CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 6 AND 15. 1992. MEETINGS: Cook moved to approve the minutes of the October 6, 1992, meeting. Dierks seconded. The motion carried on a 6-0-1 vote. (Cooper abstaining based on his absence Irom that meeting.) Bovbjerg moved to approve the minutes of the October 15, 1992, meeting. Dierks seconded. The motion carried on a 6.0-1 vote. (Starr abstaining based on his absence from that meeting.) OTHER BUSINESS: Moen reported that the Fringe Committee will meet on November 12, 1992. In response to a question from Scott, Moen stated that it was not the consensus of the Council to have membars of the Council or Board of Supervisors serve on the Committee. Scott asked Gibson to serve on the Fringe Committee with him and Gibson agreed to serve. Cook stated thet the Commission has acted on two principles, that those who benefit should pay and that growth should not be subsidized by taxpayers eny more than is absolutely necessary. He said that new development buys in to the City as a going concern and what it buys into is the inlrastructure which includes parkland. He said that when developers don't participate in creating the infrastructure, then people currently in the City are in effect subsidizing the growth of the community. He said part of the problem is the lack of a formalized agreement for an impact lee to create and maintain our recreation system. He said the lack 01 such an agreement forces the Commission to negotiate at the will of the development community. He noted that the Commission has generally had very good cooperation from developers, but he stressed that the City lacks a consistent environment for development and this creates conlusion in the minds of stafl and the Commission. He noted that at this meeting the donation of lunds to enhance parkland access was not contingent on approval and was done at the will of the developers. Scott stated he was pleased with the discussion that took place at the meeting, and with the way staff and the Commission interacted. ADJOURNMENT: Bovbjerg moved to adjourn at 10:03 p.m. Cooper seconded. The motion carried on a 7.0 vote. Ann Bovbjerg, Secretary Minutes submitted by Mary Jo Neff. 'I , , , ,', ' ! i I , I ! { ','.f illlff .~ .... 't.," , ~. pic R.€9I.LlQ.R.-C~ meEflN~ ' A!dY.e'lr186ie '5) Nc?f(. '(:30 'P. m. ~1€'Q.6e Si~~ IN: I. ~. I ~. ?tU~ !. " (1.. I ,':";- ) 1. ~\\.~Jn,~ \...~ \{, Y\ 8. ~\~}\\';~l 0o,,,\Q~~ 9. ~l~1 (lJ'TtJ ~ Jt~ )0. II. ( IJ, 13:Rr"'Lf 'TYtrr j1) t1<.. 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