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REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF APRIL 13, 1993
7:30 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CIVIC CENTER
410 EAST WASHINGTON
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IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING - APRIL 13. 1993
7:30 P.M.
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ITEM NO.1- CALL TO ORDER.
ROLL CALL.
ITEM NO.2- MAYOR'S PROCLAMATIONS.
a. Days of Remembrance of the Victims of the Holocaust. Apri11S-25, 1993.
b. Critical Care Awareness Week. April1S.24, 1993.
c. Earth Day - April 22, 1993.
d. Cycling Weekend in Iowa City. April 23.25, 1993.
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ITEM NO.3. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED OR
AMENDED.
a. Consider approval of Official Council Actions of the regular meeting of March
30, 1993, as published, subject to corrections, as recommended by the City
Clerk.
b. Minutes of Soards and Commissions.
(1) Planning and Zoning Commission meeting of April 1, 1993.
(2) Soard of Adjustment meeting of March 10, 1993.
(3) Design Review Committee meeting of February 22, 1993.
(4) Mayor's Youth Employment Soard of Directors meeting of January 27,
1993.
(5) Mayor's Youth Employment Board of Directors meeting of February 24,
1993.
(6) Committee on Community Needs meetings of February 24 and 25 and
March 16 and 17, 1993. Copies of these minutes are Included In the
resource book attached to the agenda under Item No.6.
c. Permit Motions as Recommended by the City Clerk.
(1) Consider a motion approving a Class 'C''Llquor License for Jon Fowler
dba C.J.'s, 320 E. Burlington St. (Renewal)
(2) Consider a motion approving a Class 'C' Liquor License for Kennedy
Investments, Inc., dba The Vine Tavern & Eatery, 330 E. Prentiss.
(Renewal)
(3) Consider a motion approving a Class 'B' Beer Permit for Terry French'
dba Sam's Pizza I.C., 321 S. Gilbert St. (Renewal)
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Courlneyi Days of l~emembral1ce of the Victims of the Holocaust-
April 18-25. 1993.
Critical Care Awareness Week-April I 8-2-1. ]993
Emily lvIelleker/ I am a registered nurse and I work at the VA
Medical Center here in Iowa City. I work in Surgery Intensive
Care Unit. Four of five people in America will experience
critical illness or injury directly or with a loved one in their life
lime. For most people lack of knowledge about critical care
compounds the stress and fear experienced by critically ill
people and their families. National Critical Awareness Week
was organized by the Fmmdation for Critical Care to inlbrm and
educate people about critical care. Through emphasis on
critical care during the week of April] 8-2-1 we hope to raise
public awareness and to help prepare people a little better to
cope with critical illness or injury. We would like to invite aU
of you to attend the open house that we have scheduled
Sunday, April 19 form 7:30 AM to 7:00 Pill at the VA Medical
Center on the eighth noor in the Medical Intensive Care Unit.
We will have many exhibits relating to the kinds of care that
we give patients in intensive care. Lots of information
available Ibr people and we really hope that we will have a
good turn out and it will really help to raise public awareness
about critical care and the kinds of things people need to think
about if somebody in their l~lIl1ily should happen to have to be
in a critical care unit. Thank you.
Courtney/ Thank you.
Also... Earth Day-April 22, 1993
Cycling Weekend in Iowa City -April 23-25. 1993
Week of the Young Child- April 18-2-1, 1993
Darlene ~'lcNulty/ Chair person for the Week of the Young Child. I
would like to accept this proclamation on behalf of all the
licensed child care centers, the home day cares. and the local
organizations who work with young children in our community.
And especially on behalf of all the children. We do care about
you. We would like to invite all of the children to participate in
all of the activities this week. Especially on the 17th. Saturday.
from 9:30-12:00 when Sycamore ~Iallwill have activities from
one end to the other. Alllmnds on and fun activities for
children. We also would like 10 encourage people to go to the
Sycamore Mall. Old Capitol. IIills Bank and l~lstdale and the
Coralville Library to observe all the beautiful artwork that the
young children from inl~lI1ts to school age have done. And they
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will be there until the end of the month. We would like to
especially thank all of the parents and childcare workers who
were involved with this particular day. Thank you.
Courtney/ Thank you.
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(4) Consider a motion approving a Class 'B' Beer Permit for Little Donkeys,
Inc., dba Panchero's, Inc., 32 S. Clinton St. (New)
(5) Consider a motion approving an Outdoor Service Area for Season's Best,
Inc., dba Season's Best, 325 E. Washington St. (Renewal)
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d. Setting public hearings.
(1) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION SmlNG A PUBLIC HEARING ON APRIL 27,
1993, ON PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS, FORM OF CONTRACT AND
ESTIMATE OF COST FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE 1993 STORM AND
SANITARY SEWER PROJECT.
Comment: This project Involves sanitary sewer work at three locations
and repair of a collapsed storm sewer. Sanitary sewer work will relieve
surcharging at Dunuggan Court, Kineton Green, and the north end of
Pine Street. Storm sewer work will remedy overflow and erosion
problems at Ellis Avenue alley. Total estimated cost of this project Is
$152,305.00.
e. Resolutions.
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(1) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ADOPTING SUPPLEMENT NO. 57 TO THE
CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF IOWA CITY, IOWA.
(2) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND
THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST THE RELEASE OF A LIEN FOR PROPERTY
LOCATED AT 514 EAST FAIRCHILD STREET, IOWA CITY,IOWA.
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Comment: The owner of the property located at 514 East Fairchild
Street received a flve'year, 3% loan In the amount of $925 through the
City's Housing Rehabilitation Program on October 13, 19S9. On
October 6, 1992, the owner made a lump sum final payment. Since this
has occurred, the City can now release the lien.
f. Correspondence.
(1) Letters In support of PATV from:
(a) Rev. Charles Klink, Asbury United Methodist Church.
(b) Rev. Robert W. Dean, First United Methodist Church.
(c) Sharon Thomas, Hoover Elementary School.
(d) Robert Kinney and Doneld Kinney, Monozygate Productions.
(2) Letter from Marianne Michael regarding various Issues.
(3) Letter signed by 21 persons requesting Improvements of Melrose
between West High and Highway 21S.
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(41 letter from Amy Wilcox regarding traffic problems on North Dubuque
Street.
(5) Letter from Department of Economic Development regarding CEBA
application for Iowa Processed Meats, Inc.
(6) Letter from John Morrissey regarding Capitol Street Parking Ramp.
(7) letter from the City of Coralville regarding annexation of property
adjacent to The University of Iowa Research Park.
(S) Letter from Northslde Neighborhood Association regarding the open
space policy.
(9) Letter from League of Women Voters regarding the State Convention on
April 17, 1993.
(10) Memorandum from the Traffic Engineer regarding parking prohibition in
the 10 block of East Lafayette Street.
g. Applications for City Plaza Use Permits.
(1) Application from Iowa City Rugby Football Club to'have a table on City
Plaza on April 3, 1993. (approved)
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ITEM NO.4. PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS.
a. Consider setting a public hearing for April 27, 1993 on an ordinance
amending the Zoning Ordinance by changing the use regulations of an
approximate 13.98 acre tract located southwest of Teg Drive and east of the
western section of Aber Avenue from RS.5, Low Density Single-Family
Residential to P, Public (REZ93.Q005).
Comment: At Its April 1 , 1993, meeting, the Planning and Zoning Commls.
slon, by a vote of 6.0, recommended approval of the rezoning of this property
from RS.5 to P. The Commission's recommendation Is consistent with the
staff recommendation.
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b. Consider setting a pUblic hearing for April 27, 1993, on a resolution approving
the voluntary annexation of an approximate 6.92 acre tract of land located
south of Scott Park and nonh of Fairvlew Golf Course. (ANN93.Q002)
Comment: At Its April 1 , 1993, meeting, the Planning and Zoning Commls.
sion, by a vote of 6.0, recommended approval of the Mltchell.Phipps
voluntary annexation request. This recommendation Is consistent with the
staff recommendation.
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c. Consider setting a public hearing for April 27, 1993, on an ordinance
amending the Zoning Ordinance by conditionally changing the use regulations
of an approximate 6.92 acre tract located south of Scott Park and north of
Falrview Golf Course from County RS, Suburban Residential, to ID.RS, Interim
Development Slngle.Family Residential. (REZ93.0004)
Comment: At its April 1 , 1993, meeting, the Planning and Zoning Commls.
slon, by a vote of 6.0, recommended that the property be rezoned from
County RS to ID.RS. subject to 1) the clear understanding that all of the costs
associated with providing infrastructure for the development of the subject
tract will be paid for by the developer, and 2) City Development Board
approval of the requested 6.92 acre annexation. This recommendation is
consistent with the staff recommendation. .
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d. Public hearing on a resolution approving the voluntary annexation of an
approximate 5.59 acre tract of land located north of American Legion Road
at the north terminus of Owl Song Lane SE. (ANN93.0001)
Comment: At Its March 1S, 1993, meeting, the Planning and Zoning
Commission, by a vote of 6.0, recommended approval of the Windsor Ridge
Development voluntary annexation request. This recommendation is
consistent with the staff recommendation included in a report dated March
4,1993.
Action:
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e. Public hearing on an ordinance amending the Zoning Ordinance by conditional-
ly changing the use regulations of an approximate 5.59 acre tract located
north of American Legion Road at the north terminus of Owl Song Lane SE,
from County RS, Suburban Residential, to RS-5, Low Density Single-Family
Residential. (REZ93.0003)
Comment: At its March 1S, 1993 meeting, the Planning and Zoning
Commission, by a vote of 6.0, recommended approval of the requested
rezoning of the Windsor Ridge 5.59 acre tract from County RS to RS-5 with
the clear understanding that all of the costs associated with providing
infrastructure for development of the subject tract will be paid by the
developer, and subject to 1) City Development Board approval of the
annexation of the original 240 acre Windsor Ridge tract, 2) City Development
Board approval of the requested 5.59 acre annexation, and 3) the developer
dedicating .127 acre of open space In addition to and Incorporated as part of
the 6.9 acres of open space required of the original 240 acre Windsor Ridge
tract; the location of the open space shall be negotiated with the City of Iowa
City. This recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation
included In a report dated March 4, 1993.
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f. Consider an ordinance amending the Zoning Ordinance by conditionally
changing the use regulations for a 30 acre parcel located west of Sycamore
Street and immediately north of the corporate limits, from ID.RS to RS.8,
Medium Density Single. Family Residential. (REZ 93.0001) (Second Consider.
atlon)
Action:
Comment: At its March 4, 1993, meeting, the Planning and Zoning
Commission, by a vote of 6.0, recommended that the subject application be
approved, subject to the following conditions: 1) restrictions regarding when
and how basements could be provided, 21 developer agreeing to provide
$7,500 to be used for parkland/open space acquisition In the Wetherby Park
neighborhood, as defined In the proposed Neighborhood Open Space Plan, and
3) the developer agreeing to dedicate rlght.of-way sufficient to accommodate
the upgrade of Sycamore Street to arterial street standards. This recommen.
dation Is generally consistent with the staff recommendation Included in the
staff report dated February 1S, 1993. Comments regarding this proposal were
received by the Council at the March 30, 1993, public hearing. The applicant
requests expedited Council' consideration of this ordinance.
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Courtney/Any sentiment towards collapsing. I have two nos. Can I
have a motion for second consideration.
Moved by Horow, seconded by Ambr. Discussion.
Kubby I The only comment I would like to make is that my biggest
concern was the provisions on how basements would be
provided and since we are going to be monitoring this it may
not be new in general but new for this area of the country or
for Iowa City. As long as we are going to assess this for a year
so that maybe the city manager can help us keep track of a
year and go back into the neighborhoods. So we don't forget to
bring it' back up in a year. That we do some assessment on this
to make sure we are doing the right thing and tJle theoretical
part is actually-
Horow/ That is a good idea.
Kubby I With that I will vote yes for it.
Nov/ I drove by there today. They are doing a lot of earth moving. I
also noticed that we have no curbs and gutters along Sycamore
at that point. Are we going to put those in.
Atkinsl April 20th. It is on your list.
Nov/ Thank you.
Kubbyl The ultimate date.
Couftney I Any other discussion on this item.
Hall call-
Ordinance passes second consideration.
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g. Consider a resolution approving the preliminary plat of Scott Boulevard East,
Part Two, a 26.lot, 9.23 acre residential subdivision located east of Scott
Boulevard and north of Court Street. (SUB 93.0002).
Comment: At Its March 1S, 1993, meeting. the Planning and Zoning
Commission, by a vote of 5.1 (Cooper voting no), recommended approval of
the preliminary plat of Scott Boulevard East, Part Two, subject to lots 40, 41.
42, 43 and 59 not having direct vehicular access to Court Street and Public
Works Department approval of preliminary stormwater calculations. The
Commission's recommendation Is not consistent with the staff recommenda-
tion included in the staff report dated March 1S, 1993. This Item has been
deferred from the Council's March 30. 1993, meeting. In a memorandum
dated April S, 1993, staff describes and Illustrates how the proposed plat
could be amended to address both Commission and staff concerns.
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h. Consider a resolution approving t e s cond amendment to the Subdivision
Agreement for Scott's Second Addition.
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Comment: The subject subdivision Is generally located south of U.S. Highway
21S and east of Highway 1 West on Naples Avenue. The proposed amend-
ments revise the specifications applicable to the Improvements to Naples
Avenue and postpone Improvements to certain access easements in the
subdivision. The staff recommends approval of these amendments.
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ITEM NO.6. PUBLIC HEARING TO HEAR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC REGARDING THE
RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE COMMITTEE ON COMMUNITY NEEDS (CCN) ON
THE USE OF 1993 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS.
Comment: On March 17, 1993, the Committee on Community Needs met and
formulated recommendations for projects using 1993 CDBG funds. The project
recommendations and additional Information regarding the funding requests have
been forwarded to Council In the 1993 CDBG Prooram Statement Resource Book.
Council approval on the final Program Statement Is scheduled for April 27, 1993. '
At the Council meeting after the Public Hearing, CDBG staff wishes Council
direction as to which projects to Include In the Program Statement.
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Courlney, Mo\'ed by Kubby. seconded by Horow. Discussion.
Nov/ We received some more information today.
Horow/ Right. We should enter that into the record. A letter form
~'Ir. Glasgow and the subdivider's agreement about Scott Blvd.,
Fast Part J. You want to take mine and give it back to me.
Courtney / I didn't get it.
larson/ Second.
Courtney/ Moved and seconded (Horow/Larson) to submit it into Ille
public record. Discussion. All in favor. (ayes).
I.arson/ Could Karin explain il' this changes anything about your
feelings and my understanding is that this subdivider's
agreement purports to give the developer the right to have
curb cuts on Court Street across the street I'romthis proposed
development.
Franklin/ Yes. It doesn't essentially change anything in terms of our
position.
Larson/ You still don't want curb cuts even though-
Franklin/ We still don't want curb cuts. The reason that those curb
cuts were not denied had to do with trees that were located on
those lots. There was a desire by the part of the P/Z
Commission and the council when that was approved to allow
the access onto Court if it was necessary to remove the trees.
So it is specific to those particular lots. It is not an issue that
pertains to the lots on the north side of Court Street.
Horowl Karin. at the time this subdivision agreement was signed was
the Windsor east subdivision already known about.
Franklin/ No.
Hormv/ So the volume of development on that side really wasn't or
pressing concern.
Franklin/ Well. when the Planning Department of Public Works made
our recommendation 10 the P/Z Commission and council we
recommended no access to Court Street. However it \Vas the
Commission and council decision that the issue or the trees was
greater than the concel'll about access onto Court. And that il'
access onto Court were required to save those trees that option
should be lel't open. However the subdivision was designed to
allow access onto Elmira and Scott Park Drive.
lIorow/ And thaI is the way it is noll', right.
Franklin/ That is the way it is noll', yes. [don't think-the plans 1(11'
having COUl'l Street extend 10 the east were plans that were in
place at the time Scott R1vd. Fast Pmt I were approved. The
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Windsor Ridge annexation we did not know about at the time.
We didn't know that development would be as imminent as it
is. The concern was still there.
NoVl Were those lots developed lhathave houses on them now.
Franklin/ Some of them.
Nov/ I mean just 26 80: 27.
Franklin/ The owner of the subdivision is here. I think they can
speak to that. There arc no lots now. I believe they are
developed and the lots do not hm'e access onto Court Street.
NelVi Well, I was just thinking that if they were developed I would,
as a home owner, prefer not to back into Court Street. Given
those lots m'e on a corner and have a choice it is not a direction
comparison to the north side.
Franklin/ I would agree because there were other options as you are
indicating with the corner lot with lots 40. 41 ,and 42 in the
subdivision bcl'ore you there will be no choice as the plat is
currently configured.
Larson/ But you could put in a private alley or whatever.
Franklin/ Whatever, yeah.
Nov/ So we can either sent this back to P/z or accept what they have
reCOlnllJended.
Franklin/ Or deny it.
New/ Or deny it all together.
Kubby/ So, if the majority of council wants to send it back to P/Z we
shouldn't really deny it because it will make the process start
from square one.
Franklin/ II' you deny it it will mean the developer, in order to do a
subdivision plat here, needs to come hack in with an
application and is paying a fee again. I think if you do send it
hack to the P/Z Commission it allows the process to continue to
evolve. But you might want to do that with some kind of
guidance to P/Z as to what your expectations are. Whether you
do wish to Sl'<.' a rcconf'iguration of the plat or what your
desires are. Why it is that you are sending it back.
Horowi Okay.
Kubhyi BeCiluse I am planning on voting for the resolution hut if the
majority of council wishes 10 send it hack to P/Z either
direction I would prefer it was not voted down and that we
either defer or whatever-
!Iorowl What arc your reasons for voting for it. Karen.
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Kubl1l'i Wel!, I was out fhere. r think where Scott Park Drive is
okay. Especially when you think about development further
towards Rochester. That that street goes straight through
which makes it a more efficient development. Then you won't
have that dip and if the developer says.even though we
disagree on the severity on the dip in the street with the staff
configuration. If there is going to be more fill it really changes
the topography out there enough that I feel fine about where
the street is.
Horow/ And what about the lots that do not have access.
Kubbyi I don't want access onto Court and would say no to that and
so the developer would have to figure out how to deal with
that.
Larson/ That is how I want to approve it because sending i1 back just
has us preparing a ne\\' plat. The city. I mean. I think \\'e
ought fo approve it like this and if the developer wants to
amend it or change it or do something different, he can still do
that \\'ith an approved plat and this way we have made our
point that\\'e are just not going to have curb cuts on streets
that function as arterials. My probIelllwith granting it is that
if you grant it some places then ho\\' can you say no anywhere.
And then you have got First Avenues on every single street in
town. And regardless of whether we have learned that lesson
no\\' or learned it ten years ago \\'e should have learned it. And
if we are going to have a policy that lYe not have curb cuts on
arterials then I think t hat has to be a consistent policy-
NoVi It does set a precedent iI'IYe say it is okay here.
Franklin/ I \\'ouldlike to present a question to the city attorney. If
this plat is approved and once these lots are sold to a single
individual. Say Lot 41. And the legal papers have no access
permitted on Court Street. Does thai inclividual have any
recourse against the city if they buy it IYith an understanding
of access or no knowledge of the restriction. I kno\\' you hate
hypot het ical.
Gentry/ You are suggesting that soml'One would buy that with the
documents recorded in the Hecorder's Office and have no
knowledge of Ihe restriction.
Franklin/ Ymh. You don't think that is likely.
Gentl}'/ If Ihe attorney IYere doing their job and the lending
institutionl don't see holY that is possible. Whether there is
access by reason of an alley via private access agreement or
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public is another question. But I don't see ho\\', once this is
recorded with-Whether Bruce is going to sign the documents
and they get recorded perhaps is more problematical. Bnt once
the documents are recorded in the Recorder's Office. someone
who is buying it should know that Ihere is no access permilted
form that lot. And J don't know the answer to that question.
NoV/ This makes the assumption that there is an attorney and there
is a lending institution. [I' those two things did not exist who
onus is it to know what is on the Hecorder's Off'ice.
Gentry/ The buyer. But is the developer won't sign the document
that gets recorded then we are back 10 square one. And J don't
know the answer to that.
l\ubby/ So if people are-l guess 1 haven't really heard that people
want to send it back to p/Z.
Nov/ Oh. r don't know.
I.arson/ J think you are right. I don't think there is any point in
pUlling a hardship on the developer of having to resubmit and
pay Ihe application fee.
Nov/ r really appreciate the fact thattl1ese documents came today.
It gives me a bet tel' understanding of what Mr. Glasgow is
thinking about. And I am sure that since he has seen where I
live he know has a better understanding of why r say 4% grade
is negligible. I just don't agree with this particular plat but if
everybody does not want to send it back and if we feel we
should just go ahead and say they will build a private lane
behind those lots and they will be accessible. We will do it that
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way.
Harow/ I feel very uncomfortable about this. [agree that [ don'l
want to send il back and have him starllhe whole process over
again with a fee and all of Ihis. But deliberately going along
with ,1 subdivision that two lots do not have access for gelting
in or out jusl doesn't seem right to me.
I.arson/ It is just three lots that he has drawn on the plat. Doesn't
have to stay three lots. It can get all one big lot or he call put
an alley behind and give Ihem access or he can redesignlhe
plat and amend it and resubmit it.
Horow/ 1 know Ihal. [know that. But it just seems to me thatm)'
posil iOIl in terms of subdivision and land use is to see I he
package as it is totally developed. Nice and tidy and Ihe public
is not lelOled. I ,1111 not fooled. The developer kllows exactly
what he is suppose to be doing. This just seems to be less I/mll
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whall\'c are use 10. 1/ doesn't sir right and yet I don'lwanl
Bruce to have to go bark and starl all over again.
f\ubby/ You can stal'l over from the very beginning or you can jusl
refer iI bac k to wil h some direct ion.
Horow/ It is possible for us to give a conditional all right and have
the final design. be iI an alley way or whatever. be resubmitted
just to this body.
Franklin,' You are get ling the same look tium bOl h of us,
Gentry/ If iI is going to be a public alley I think it wil! be different
from the preliminary pial. This is not a preliminary.
Franklin/ I would advice YOll that if you want an alley there or some
kind of access. IfyoulVant anything other than this restriction
on lot access that you refer iI back to the P/Z Commission. If
you approve this preliminary plat. and it is a preliminary, it
gives credence and reliability for them to call on with the final
platting process. Which means you have created three lots that
have no access with this provision there.
Larson/ Why would he do that.
Franklin/ I would have to ask him the same question. i don't know.
Larson/ I just don't want to say that-well, forget it.
Nov/ The one thing that r do like about this is Ihe north south slreet
lines up with what is south of COUl'l. We do get a straight line
rather than a zig zag for somebody who wants to continue
north.
Fmnklin/ In response to a COlllment that you made. f\aren, about this
makes it neal and tidy to go norlh to Rochester Ave.
f\ubby / r know it won't go all the way up.
I~ranklin/ Okay. It will probably go to Washington and that will be
as I~lr as it wil! go.
Horow/ The concept of having alley ways I like. r definitely like that
in Iowa City. Bul iI has been a long time since we have
deliberately fostered alley ways and it seems to lIIe to be
asking for something that r have not really considered the
nlmilkations of.
Nov/ lwouldn't advocate a public alley there. I would say a private
lane makes more sense.
Courtney/ yes sir.
Bruce Glasgow/ My turn, huh. Okay. How about compromise. One
driveway 1'01' the three lots. And we will-you can approve iI
that way lonight. Change it 10 two 101s. Pul one driveway in
and that will go and take care of-I hose three lots will become
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vel}' expensive Iwo IOls. And (he (rade olf is Ihat we didn't
use one of the driveways across the slreelthalwe are entilled
tn. We have the lot 27 sold and they are designing this right
noli'. I don't knoll' where it is going 10 be. But Ihat has a big
tn,'C on iI.
Kubby/ That is the rcasonwe were allowing access, Bruce. to
accolllmodate that and that condilion is nol on the other side of
the street.
HorOlI'/ That is a separate subdivision.
GlasgOlVi Yeah. But anyhow we olTer that as a compromise. Two
driveways on Court Street in 400 feet. Can'tllliss that Hille old
lady coming out of that garage coming down there.
Horawl Youleli my house today going of illY driveway. .lust on
Kirkwood you oughl to see the way J have 10 get oul of there
and that is on a slope. Essentially you just yell gowabunga and
slide oul onto the slreel. And there is a flre plug on the other
side of the street.
COllrtney/ J have taken her home after Illeetings before and that is
what she has tolclme. Yell cowabunga and go.
Amlll/ That is Ihe sister to Geronimo.
Horow/ ft is not nice. It really isn't and this is a hill going 10 the
eas!. r would hate to have the responsibilily of having said
yes, go ahead and then sell that to sOlllebody.
Glasgow/ Then another compromise. We will pul a turning lane in
Ihere so when you back out of the garage you GIn go out the
fronl way.
Horow/ That is the way 1 go out, Bruce.
Glasgow/ II still scares you.
Hormv/ YOll come on over on an icy morning.
Glasgow/ No problem at all. III'<lS also at 10 Courtney's house and
your letter is in the front door. I didn't want to go 10 the soccer
game.
Horaw/ What about the concept of a private lane. Is that possible as
anolher compromise.
Glasgow! I think there is il possibiHly that we can go between two
houses and gel 10 somebody else's backyard. We are willing to
go along IVilhlhat if Ihal is what it is.
Horml'/ Would you be willing 10 draw Ihill on a plat and come back
10 liS wit hlhat.
Glasgow/ This is the preliminary. You W>t a shot at me in anolher
three or four IVl'l'ks.
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I\ubby/ flut the preliminary puts the initial okay on what is on
paper.
HOrDw! It really does.
Glasgow! Then why don't YOll give me one driveway and we will use
the land like it should be.
HOrDw/ No. If you would go along with that lane I would consider.
Glasgow/ I would rather look at a church or a daycare center. I hate
to do that to the people that are out there already. There is
nothing, in my eslimalion, there is nothing worse than a church
when you want to get out in the backyard on a Sunday
morning in your grubbies and do your yard \\'ork and
everybody else is all dressed up and-
HorolY! Are you threatening to put a church inlo\\'a City.
Glasgow/ I have sold five church sites in my lime, yes.
Nov/ What about a street to the eats on this.
Glasgow! A street to the east.
Nov! You have any ability to put in a street along the east side of lot
40.
Glasgow/ No.
Nov/ I was thinking that if you were going to do two large lots. Go
that way. I think that is the way to do it. No curb cuts on
COUI1.
Glasgow! Are you guys liying to muster up support for one curb cut.
Courtney! We were-
hlrson! You talk about precedence. Now you got not only the
precedence of curb cuts on arterials but you got tJ1C precedcncc
of devclopers coming up and horse trading at councilmcetings.
Courtney / Oh no.
MeD! That has been donc bclore. That has bcen c10nc before.
Larson! I have fell kind of comfortable letting Tom Scot I run
interference on these things.
MeD! Somclimcs we have 10 do that.
Glasgow! We ask that you go ahead and votc and do somcthing with
it tonight. Thank you.
MclV Throughout this whole process and Ithink we have all agreed
thai one of the things that.onc of our primary concerns has
been that we shoulcllimit curb cuts onto Court. And because,
as I think we are all aware. maybe 2025 years from now. I
don't know how long it is going 10 take. But from the sounds of
things it looks like Court Street would cnd up in West Bl'ilnch
some day and we have 10 be a little bit careful about what we
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allow nOlI' because of lvhallhe fulure llIighl hold. But allhe
same time I don't think that we arc going In be able 10 deny all
curb cuts as it extends. Bul I Ihink we should be very much
aware and be very cogni7<lIlt of the 1~1Ct that we have to walch
it very closely.
larson! I lhink I will go along with you John. The reason is. because
as I said last night, [ think curb cut access on arterials is one of
the thing you need to look al but there might be times to out
weigh it. I think fairly or notl~lirly. the developer did get a
development that did give him curb mts on Court and that
might have led to some expeclations on his part that they
wouldn't be completely prohibited. Even the fact that there are
a lot of curb cuts on arterials near that area there, I don't have
nay problem with compromising. It just isn't that big of deal 10
me. One curb cut on that street just doesn't make or break it.
NOVi And then when somebody backs out of their driveway and
somebody else hits them-
Larson! You are gonna put a hammer deal in there-
Nov/ Are they going to come back to city council and say you let this
happen
Larson! I said that was one of the considerations that I don't like
curb cuts on arterials but let's gel on with it.
Nov! Think about it from a 1,\I\yers standpoint.
Ambr/ I certainly like the overall design presented here.
Courtney! I have a question. I think I have mustered enough to
stan a compromise here. How do we vote on this now.
Franklin/ What is your compromise.
Court ncy / Onc.
Me D/ One curb c nl.
Franklin! Any where.
Courtney! D::l we need to send that back to design it.
l~ranklin! Well. this is not consistenl with the P/l Commission's
recolnmendatiolls.
Courtney / I understand.
NOVi And therefore I Ihink it has to go back.
[mson/ It doesn't have to go back. We can amcnd it and meet with
Ihem and explain to them why we amended it,
Now Do we have a commission representative here.
larson! No.
Franklin/ Typically when the recommendalion of the Comlnission-
when the council actioll is not collsistent wilh the
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recommendation or the Commission you have a discussion with
the Commission or Commission representative before you lake
your vote.
Nov/ That is right.
Mc!)i Not necessarily.
Larson/ It is our prerogative 10 do-
Franklini The choice is yours.
McDi This isn't entirely against what the Commission is
recommending. What the Commission recommended to us.
Kubby/ In terms or curb cuts it is.
Ncw/ Yeah. It says subject-
McD/ They mentioned four lots-however or where ever I am at here.
We are talking about one here. So we are aClUally changing it
from what they had under consideration. This is not the same
project-Ihis is not the same type or issue Ihatthey had under
considemt ion and I don't know at this point. One or the things
that has made a difl'erence in the past as far as I his policy is
how strongly sometimes they have felt about a particular issue.
And I really can't say atlhis point il' this was a big item or a
big issue. Karin, lllaybe you can address that belleI'. I don't
know.
Courtney/ There was a split vole on it. Was that what that was over.
Franklin/ My understanding was thallhls plat was discussed during
one of the COlllmission's longer meetings. I can't explain the no
vote. There was no explanation given/br Mr. Cooper's vote.
l-IorOlv/ [ would again like to suggest the alternative that we ask the
developer In come back to Ihis body with another plat on
design. And may by between now and then he and 1mry
would be able to work some up thaI would be accepmble.
Larson/ This is not the kind or thing that we have-! mean the policy
that we would meet with Pll, anytime we want to do something
different than what t hey have recommended Ilies in the f\lce of
Ihe respeclive I'unctions of the two bodies, Their job is to
recommend and our job is to decide.
IIorow/ Well. I was one of the ones who came up with this
suggeslion. I have W take umbrance.
larson/ John can allest to-
Courtney/You have a lot or ex-Pil, members up here t hat me
squirming in their chairs over there.
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Horow/ This is going 10 sel a precedence. We have gone along in
terms of no arterial curb wts. We weren't cutting whetller or
not there was one or two.
ImsOl]/ r am saying that we have sometimes done things that P/Z
recommended against and not met with them when we said
well. it isn't that big of a deal or they don't really care.
Nov/ls a big deal.
1101'011'/ I think so too.
I\ubby/ Does this mean Ihat people aren't that concerned with Ihe
placement of Scott Park Drive. Because there really has been
very little discussion about Ihat in terms of stall's
recomnlendation.
Horow/ I am not thai concerned about it.
I\ubby/ Okay. So people feel good. I would prefer-at !'irst I didn't
want to send it back to P/Z because r was more worried about
the street in a certain sense. r would now prefer tn send it
back to PiZ with the direclion that the street stays in Ihe same
place but we deal with the one curb cut.
Ambr/ I like the developer's drawings. I think they are well done. I
like Scott B1vd.'s parallel to I~,lrk Drive. So my only hag up is
whether or not I agree with the Planning slaff Ihat we have a
cast in iron rule about curb cuts. Karin and I are going to have
a book session because [ looked all through Ihat compo plan
today and I had a little trouble coming up with thai I1nile
slalemenl. I think the developer has ofl'ered a pretty darn good
solution in one curb cut. Ancl I think. ~rr. ~'layor. thaI I am
reading four votes f(lr Ihat,
I.lrson/ The only issue now is whether we send it back 10 P/Z and
say we want 10 do one curb, is it okay wilh you.
Ambr/I don't think we have 10.
Kubby/ So Ihen are you saying lilat as development occurs along any
arterial thai if Ihe developer comes in with a curb cut Ihat our
basic line is saying no, Ihal is nol appropriate. That is the basic
rllle. If there is some extenuating circumstances becallse of
design issues you are open 10 discllssing it bllt il is not an
alllomatic tiling developers should come in to liS with. Iwanl
to be clear abollt-
Ambr/ I keep going back to my interprelation ofwhal the compo
plan is. II simply t hat. II is a plan. And any bllsiness 11'01'1 h
ii's saIl has a compo plan which is a road map that YOll go in
and YOll d revise it somelimes more I han anmlally. }\nd if
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circumstances wacrant it, you ameud lhe plan. And Ilhink that
this is an example of' it. Which I have done consislcntly in my
ten years on the council.
l!ol'Ow! I agree with you on that concepl of'the plan, Bill. But in this
particular situation! disagree where this is f'or a curb cut.
Given the f'act that eastern side is higher. That is a slight slope.
! just disagree with having a curb cut onlhat par of' Court
Street
Courtney! Okay. We have gOI a motion on the nonr 10 approve this
resolution as il is written. If we are going 10 change anything
we are going In need an amendment to the regular motion.
Larson/ ! would move to amend lhatlots -f-il. 42, and 43 be
combined into two IOls and have one curb access onto Court
Slreet and that all other aspects of' it be as recommended at
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Ambr! ! will second the amendmenl.
Courtney/ Moved by Larson. seconded by Ambr 10 amend the
original motion. Everyone gel it. Does it need 10 be restaled.
Discussion on the amendment.
Franklin/ E'\Cl1se me. The resolution as il is stated now has
restrictions on lot 59 also. Are you retaining that restriction.
That is the one on I he corner oJ'Scott Park.
larson/ Yes.
Novl And 43 is relained.
Larson/ No. 41,42, and 43 will be combined into two lots and they
get one curb wt but nobody else dell'S.
Nov! 40. 41, and 42 would have combine because 43 has an access
onto Ihe side street.
I\ubby / BUI he could combine 43 and 42.
Larson/ Which one is onlhe corner of' SeeM Park.
Franklin/ 43 and 59.
larson! I am son)'. -10.41. and 42 should be combined.
Courlney/. Any other discussion on the ,ullendment.
All in '[IVOJ' (ayes)
Opposed (aye-I\ubby, Hornw, Nov)
Motion passes -1/3
Courtney/Back to Iheoriginalmolion. Any f'urtherdiscussion.
I~oll enll-
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Courtney,' Public discussion.
Doyle Detroit. J am one 01' lhe two co-directors managing Public
Access Television. The other co-director. Renee Payne was nol
able to be here with me tonight. As usual I am available for
questions or comments about Public Access Television.
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The news is that this week we are breaking our record J{Jr
children being on Public Access. We are going 10 have -J.S kids,
a total this week. from Hoover School on Public Access. This is
part of the extended learning project. I believe it is called
Transformation, coordinated by Sharon Thomas at Hoover
School. That has been a real pleasure getting up carly in the
morning and seeing the kids. The other thing that we are
really proud 01' this week is that we set a record for getting a
sholl' taped and on the air within two working days. We taped
and edited a reenactment of the last supper thalll'as put on in
Wellman by the Asbury United Methodist Church. For those of
you who watch access late we are showing it Wednesday nighl
at 1 AM. For those of you who watch access carly, Thursday at
6:30 Plvf on the new channel 2. I would also like to commend
Bill Batey who is our production coordinator for this particular
project. And also if anyone in the viewing audience has taken
the PATV classes and would like to get involved in production
teams to do this kind of the project in the community, our
phone number as usual is 338-703S. We have recently
decided that we are going to be <lssisting the production of
three different series. I don't knoll' whether you are aware of
it but we did assist the production 0)' the Sanders Group and a
sport sholl' called Sports Opinion. Those two shows are no
longer being assisted by PATV starr. Sports Opinion is
continUing under the direction of./oe Murphy from Murphy
Sound and it has been expanded to an hour which we are very
pleased about. If anyone out there IVould like to volunteer to
help with Gary Sanders Sholl' we would be happy to put you
together with Gary and get that sholl' back on the air.
Kubbyl Get BiJl-
Ambr/lll'ill help him out.
Detroit.' Bill, if you come. you can go through the workshops free.
We convened t\\'o different conllllittees to go through the
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applications that I\'e had Ic)r series. And II'halll'e \\'ere looking
for were groups that had not been served by Access because
our business plan for this year is to reach out to members of
the community who have not traditionally used Public Access.
So three series. we had ten applications. They ranged form
kids shows to comedy shOll's. A lot of entertainment. A lot of
interest in doing original drama. for example. We had one
sholl' that we have on standby because we hope that the
producers can re-I\'ork the concept. lt is aimed at the
International Students at the University of Io\\'a. It is called
International Edition. We may be able to do that sholl'. We are
not sure about thaI yet. SO that is our standby. But we have
three that \\'e have selected. And \\'e are proud of the diversity
in these three series. They wjJI probably be hilling the ainvays
first in June and Ill'iII probably be coming to tell you when
they will be on. The first one is called Peace Begins At Home.
The producer is Laura Winton is \\'ho the administrative
assistant for the DVIP. This is a talk sholl' which will focus on
issues of domestic violence. Specilkally about domestic
violence intervention projects. But also issues that are
concerned to people who are concerned about filInilies at risk.
We are hoping to put out the kind of values that we want to
see this conllllunity maintain. The second sholl' is Linda's
Inquiring Mind. The producer is Linda Delabarba. This is a
panel discussion featuring both layman and professions
centering on life changes brought about by various alternative
methods in the physical, mental and spiritual areas of each
person's me. I think this will be a very popular sholl'. There is
one similar to it, I believe. in St. Paul. The third sholl' is called
Those Two Homos. It is a sholl' of local, national, and
international anilirs of concerns to gays and lesbians, focusing
on interviews, features and cultural events. The producers are
Kim Painter who has a column in the D.I, and Richard Shannon
who has completed aliaI' our workshops. So we are going to
begin working on pre-production with the three new shows
and we should be able 10 give you air dates probably mid-June.
Courtney/ Thank you, And you are on a nell' channel now.
Detroit/ We are on Clmnnel 2. We are experiencing increased
Viewership because of being on Channel 2 and we are feeling
very good about it. We are also hoping to have new T-shirts.
Bill gets the first one. Noll' the most serious thing that I need
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to address the council abut is the llKt that our payment from
TCl is late. It was due April 1. It has not yet arrived.
Kubby/ (can't hear) will make a big old red one out of that one.
Detroit! Dale and I have been velY gracious and everyone has called
everyone and the check my be in the mail. The check is not in
our account. I am a little concerned about this because I
understand that we are considering re franchising with TCI and
what comes to mind and I want to apologize to aI the English
teachers ill the audience because I am about to mangle syntax.
If I had paid my cable bill as late as TCI has paid the access
center I \Vould have owed between 25 and 30% in a late fee.
There is no late fee included in the contract right now. Perhaps
there should be because the Access Center has had no money
coming in for the last 12 days and it was due to us, We intend
to keep the Access Center open. This will not impede our
operation. We are, in IlKt, expanding our hours as of June 1.
But I will tell you about that in the middle of Mat. But I
wanted council to kno\V-
Gentryl I suggest you put that in writing for the council for later.
Vour complaint.
Detroit! Okay.
Gentry/It is not their position to decide on that now.
Detroit/ ] didn't expect a decision. This is just simply information for
council.
Gentry/ We would like it in writing.
Detroit! Okay. I will have it in your olTice tomorrow. And maybe
the check will be in the mail. Who knows. l\nd when we get
the check and you watch Channel 2 we will be saying thanks to
TCI. It' you watched that channel tonight it will be saying
where is the check. So, Are there any questions that are
arising from the last time I addressed you gentlemen-I mean
ladies and gentlemen. Bill. you weren't here. [I1gured you
have a fell' things youlI'anted to say.
Ambr/ [ like you representation very much.
Detroit/ We have ollly talked on the phone.
Ambr/ I think it is a good idea to come to council. The Senior Celller
does that mOllthly. [am not suggesting that you do because
there might be other people that want tolalk. But Ilhink it is
a gooel ielea to lalk 10 us more frequently.
Detroit/ I \Vantlo be ,Ivililable.
Ambr/ Yes. ThaI is gooe!.
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Courtney: May be the besllhing lllat has ever happened to you.
Detroill Definitely. Actually something came up in talking to Pat
White about this current problem. We are thinking about this
summer. You might want to think about being part of t1tis.
Getting together a series of talk shows to talk about what the
conlll1unity wants to be on public access. And I am hoping to
have one of you come on and represent not the council but
yourselves. But I understand there are some very strong
opinions and I think it's time that we got those opinions on
Public Access. That to me is the appropriate use of Public
Access. You can elraw straws.
Horow! I do have one question and that was I had suggested that the
Board consider putting some or its programming for adult
situations later at night. What was the result of' that.
Detroil/ Out Board meeting is this week. Thursday. And I am on the
agenda to talk tot hem about that and to talk to theml believe
about haVing a second disclaimer for language or content. And
I am going to bring that up to them. We are programming until
almost 1:30 some nights so it won't be a problem for that. But
I will let you knoll' how it turns out.
Novl Doyle, has your check been late other times. Is this the first
time.
Detroil/ I don't knoll', Honeslly. The records-I could probably go
back to the bank and round out. I don't know right away from
records in the oflke.
NoW If you could check your bank statements and record other
times and put iI in wriling along with this time.
Detroit/ This is only the third payment that we have gotten.
Helling/ I don't think there have heen any late in the past. according
to]ohn.
Detroit! That was the consensus or the Hoard people but I haven't
actually had time to check that. BIlt we knoll' that it is late and
are we going 10 get interest for it.
Genlry/ You could put thaI in writing if you would.
Detroill 1 will be happy to do Ihat.
Gentry/ Thank you.
Hilda Howell/ I haven't agreed 10 taking up much ol'your lime. But I
am here on behall' of the people who live in 320 East
Washington building where I live and we're worried ahout the
tral'fic on Linn and Washington. !l is so difficult to cross there.
I will tell you about it. Hel()J'(~ I begin I will tell you about olle
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elderly couple that lived t here. I{everend i\'Jiller and his wife
and they go down to the crossing and nothing stops so-even on
Ihe green lighlthey don'Hhey arc afraid to cross because
there arc two streams of traffic crossing it and in the path
where they want to go and Ihis is. Oh, I have got the wrong
glasses. The people at 320 E. Washington apartment arc
desirous of Ihe city to regulale the traffic at the corner of Linn
Street and Washington. At the corner is very busy and the
consenSll~ in the building is Ihat it should be looked inlo.
especially for all the wheel chairs and people with canes who
cannot gel across the street there. I. myself', have gone as far
as the middle of the st reel as swiftly moving autos arc coming
each direction behind me and in li'ont of me crossing on my
green light. And so it leaves me in Ihe middle of the street.
The I'd light is on and here I am. Fortunately everybody has
stopped up to now. But t hat is what it is and it is worrying
because these senior citizens are afraid of being knocked down
by the traffic when they are crossing on a green light. This
situation occurs all day long. I myself. witnessed a wheel chair
with a person dumped into the intersection at Gilbert and
Wnshington and that is a busy corner, too but it doesn't nffect
us. But the police were there and also an ambulnnce to take the
injured person to the hospital. I did not see the story in the
Press Citizen the next day. Why not. ThaI is about it. Except n
friend of mine says Ihat we arc all equally concerned and
talked to the traffic engineer alxlllt this and more recently to
Karen Kubby. Plense don't wait for the fatal accident before
you take the action. Yours sincerely, Marian Borg. And here is
43 people that signed this. We didn't have time to get more
signatures. There is 83 people thai live in the building.
Courtney/ Mlm. we had an extensive discussion on this last night
with the traffic engineer and we did-
lIowell/ I am sorry, I don't hear well.
Courtney/ We had a discussion last night at our informal meeting on
this item.
Ilowelli Oh.
Courtney/ And we have decided to put in a no right turn on red li)r
one of the Intersections. One direction il would be-as
Washington turns north onto Linn. l\ight on the corner of the
Senior Center Ihere.
1I00\'ell/Oh. That would help.
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Courtney! We are going to try that one first and see if it helps and if
that doesn't help then we can decide on something else. That
should be going up soon.
Kubby/ We will vote on it at the next council meeting.
Courtney/ We will have a formal vote on it in two weeks and it will
go on up shortly after that.
Howell/ That is wonderful. You knoll' not only in our building but, of
course. we are conscious of the sit Llation. But t here is a lot of
maybe a half a dozen students, college students. that use the
same crossing every day and it is not just for us. It is for
everyhody that goes past that corner. Thank you for your
time.
Cour1l1ey/ Thank you
Kubbyl Than you for coming, Hilda.
Howell/ Thank you.
Courtney I Any other items for puhlic discussion not on tonight's
agenda.
Clara Oleson/ [I'I came here as often as Bruce Glasgow I guess I
would have a lillle stamp. too, here.
Courtney/ You are catching up with him this year.
Oleson/ I think I am going to skip my citizenlectLlre tonight. I think
it has kind of phased everybody in. What [want to focus on is
one aspect of the last CEllA application process. Which is
basically the local match. [am assuming that you got the
correspondence from the DED about their consideration of the
application. Roberta TiII-Retz has a copy of the page starf
review which went to the subcommittee which issued a smaller
review to the rull commillee. If you remember that application
indicated that there would be $283.000 in job training money.
And that would be basically what has been know as 2IlOB
moneys. In an allemptto understand that my remarks are
based on the following information. Reading 2ROB. I{eading it's
regulations. Reading all the policies, procedures and guidelines
which there are none. There are six pages, three pages of law
and three pages of regulation. That is it for this progmmwhich
is worth $100,000 in federal tax exempl bonds. It is also based
on a two and a half hour conversation with the Economic
Director or Kirkwood plus an entire al'ternoon at the DED
speaking with AI Klausen who is the director or this prognllll
for the state and his supervisor JoAnne.
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Horow/ b:cuse me. Did you also talk with the JTPA Director in Cedar
Rapids.
Oleson/ No. Because is a state program. This is notlhe JTPA. This is
strictly an Iowa program. It's funding has been grandfathered
into the ms Code. So this is not JTPA. And I know that you
know about JTPA, Susan, so I think you would be interested in
how this stale effort compares to that.
Kubby / And are these moneys available wit h or with out CEBA.
Oleson/ That is correct.
This program has been in existence since 1983. It is not
dependent on corporate need. Unlike the CERA application,
forgivable loan or grant, where there has to be a demonstration
of need. There is no demonstration of need to this public
assistance to a corporate recipient. None. Zero. Zip. The process
as outlined in the statute basically is focused on an individual
business. The theory is that the money will go to the individual
business. The additional facility that is created by that grant
and the additional jobs will generate additional taxes. Part of
those taxes, then. will be diverted. And they will be assigned
to the community college to basically payoff bonds which the
community college issues. It is in the lingo known as a job TIF,
Ta'\ Incentive Hnancing. So what this means is for future tax
moneys we are diverting there allocation which would
generally go through their property tax and through their
employee wage withholding tax into the general fund and go to
the school board and the cities. They are now diverting that.
And we are basically diverting it to the bond pay olT that the
community college operates. So this $283.000 was really a
$661,000 ten year bond subsidy program. Now let's look at
where the money goes. The money basically is kept in reserve
at Kirkwood or by the community college. Up to SO% of the
money can go directly to the company for wage subsidy for
what is termed n the statute on the job training but is really
more accurately vestibule training. There need not be any
actual training sessions. The standard is the Dictionary of
Occupational Titles. So, for example. if Bill. you were going to
hire a file clerk. YOll would look in t he Dictionary of
Occupational Titles and it would say, maybe. six months. I
have no idea what it would say. Three weeks. Whatever it
would say. You would then have that person come to the
ornce. When they showed up-when I hey clocked in-they are
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Oil on the job training. You need not speak to them. You need
not give them any additional training. You need not give them
any test You need not dowment in any way that they have
gone through training. You then send a request f(lr
reimbursement to tile community college indica! ing either the
clock number of the social security number of that individual
alld the Ilumber of hours that they worked at the rate of pay.
l\ubby/ So you are saying that these people can come and work
ullder this training window of time. Not actually be trained but
actually do work lor you.
Oleson/ It used to be that 100% of the money went like this. The
there was various uproars. Then they said \Veil, only 50% of
the money can go lor that. When you hear the word on the job
training either you vision maybe some-because this is
illdustrialmoney. Right. Somebody doing some learning some
rather complex computer assisted design or a statistical
processing conlrol technique alia Deming. Something like that.
Wrong. There is no way to check or to audit as to who has
done what and what training.
larson! In fact. the people might not need any training at all.
Oleson! That is correct. Inl~1Ct. what it is, is that it is a wage subsidy.
Noll' the other SO% is m~1ilable for what they call customized
job training. This is money that can be uSl'(I, for e.xample, to
pay the personnel director or the training director or some of
the equipment used in training by the company. Again the
employee need not leave the premises. The hours of the
training whether the training is adequate. Whether the
employee needs the training. Whether it is a job that we need
to create for training is not at all looked at. The allocation for
the-in your local match would have provided l\irkwood
Community College with an overhead just to administer the
program. What this means is doing their marketing, telling
businesses this program is available. Then helping them fill
out the application for CFBA. There really is no formal
application for this program that [ have seen exist. Come up
with a preliminary agreement which is boiler plate and then
take the preliminary agreement, some of which arc in existence
for years, Some months. If' it ever goes to a final agreement
and this agrel'menl basically talks abolltthe fiscal
responsibility of a company goes belly. Right. Because Ihe way
this is financed is thl' l\irkwood or commllnity college is issuing
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lhe bonds so Ihey need 10 be assured lhe fiscal responsibility.
The training progralll submitted by the company I have looked
at one. ThaI is the only one lhat [have had access to. [s
basically a two day, 2-1 hours over a week period or orientation
10 company policies including a mm about the company, -IS
minutes of training about the Right To I\now. A subject [ teach
to workers and I have never saw it taught in 4S minutes. Rut I
can always learn something. The most insidious thing about
lhis program is the definition of who is eligible. The definition
of-it talks about Iowa Induslria[ New .lobs Training Program.
And indeed it does eliminate governmental jobs. II does
eliminate professional jobs. Rut its definition of industl)' is a
business. Is a business. So the exalllple is is that if business A
wants to locate in .Iohnson County, they look lor six months and
they say to business A in the last six months have you done
business anywhere else in Iowa. The answer is no. That is all
that is asked. Business A fiscal soundness is investigated but
allhough that is not a criteria of this program. Neither the
unemployment rate, necessity for the jobs, or whether this is
going 10 displace jobs of employer B is never looked at. And
the statute explicitly indicates the definition of industry and
uses the example, which of course lor this program has become
infamous. An industry is a business engaged in activities
descrihed as eligible inlhe Act rather than the generic
definition of encompassing all businesses within the state doing
the sallie activity. For example, in the business of lIIeat
packing, an industry is considered to be a single corporate
entity or operating subdivision rather than the entire meal
packing business in the state. So that what we would-in a
rational programllhink whalwe would expect is that the local
folk would want job training moneys not to go, for example. to
train people where there was a high unemployment mte. The
example that [gave, both the l\irkwood and the state, wait a
minule-suppose a husiness comes in and we know from Iowa
.Ioh Lahar slatistics thatlhere are ROO unelllployed workers in
that category in.lohnson County, Do you really I\"<lnt to spend
state moneys to train more people when there are already
Ihose numher of people unemployed. And the answer would
be unless that they were unemployed as a resull of being
dumped from this employer. we woulclnollook at thaI. I
submit to you that this is a program which you can get in
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collusion with unless you exallline it carefully. J h,lve provided
you a copy or the stat ute. I have provided you a copy of the
regulations. That is literally alllhal exists except for the
annual report. I have given you a section of that annual report.
The state 000 willlell you the strength of this progranHhe
weakness of this progralll was thai in the early days it was
perceived as a corporate give away. In 1992 this progralll
gave Monsanlo $720,000; IBIl $625.000: HyVee $1.5 million in
1992; ConAgra $6i5.000 in 1992; and Genocore $1.07 lIIi1lion in
1992. Which is an interest ing exalllple. That is the Kodak jOint
venture operation in Cedar napids. And what this indicates to
lIIe is if one does as I do believe in industrial business policy
this is an absolutely stupid way to spend your lIIoney. There
is-I can'l think of a rational reason to give IIyVee $1.5 million
in 1992 in Iowa. Now lIIaybe there is one. But when you ask
either the local or the state people who articulate that you
really don't get. at least in lilY estilllation. anywhere
approaching a satisfactory answer. I would point to you that
the prilllal}' public benefiCiary is the comlllunity college. And
what I alii suggesting that you do is educate yourself as a
council. You have a full tillle economic developlllent
coordinator. Talk to that person and ask for input about this.
The state OED has no infbrmation on these individual prograllls
except a preliminary agreement and the final agreement. They
do no auditing. There is no 1011011' up. One of the things I was
looking was to see if there is a way to construct a list of
workers and call the III up and say did you gel training, what
kind of training did you get, did you think you were better off
or not better off. There is no necessity for a worker to be told
that his salary or her salary is being subsidized here. And the
real problellllhat has to be liKed and I don't-I talk about this
as the systelll. It is a systemic problelll. Is that the conlin unity
colleges have been setup as the as the lIIi1k cow here. And so
thill the corporate collllllunity doesn't have to go to the
leglslalure. They just Il'l Ihe COlli III unity colleges go to the
legislature.' And we llOW have a comlllllnity college available to
have $100 million of bonding ilulhority which is federally tax
exelllpt fil!' the benerit not of the economic well beings of Iowa
workers. Or necessnrily even Iowa corporat ions. Or
necessarily even any corporation that needs it. This is a
progralll devoid of any standard of need. I\nd I subllllt 10 you
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that there is no other well~lre program run in this state or in
this nation which is that morally bankrupt. When I think or
the hours that people have to put in to apply for rood stamps.
[ have seen those applications which are eight pages long now.
And we have six pages with not even an application rormto nil
out lor a $100 million. That is a scandal. That makes the
business community look bad and it makes government. which
is in collusion, either unknowingly because you don't educate
yourself or you don't ask hard questions. lt diminishes your
credibility. I want people to gel knowledgeable about this. Anel
I want them to investigate it. Don't trust my judgment. But
trust my instinct that this is necessmy to look into.
Horowl Clara, I would like to ask you to whom does the annual
report go. Who asks for the annual report.
Oleson I The annual report is required by the statute. ltlooks like
this.
Horowl Hight! But who asks-to whom does it go. Back to the state.
Oleson I I am sony. The annual report is produced by the state DED.
And all it is is a listing of the companies, the county, the
location in the county. the amount or the grant, the funding of
loan date, the planned number of jobs to be created. and the
actual number of jobs created.
1Iorowl The community college doesn't have to contribute to that. [s
t hat right.
Olesonl The paying or this.
1Iorowl No. The evaluation or final numbers. The community college
has no input in terms or what its role was I this. Is that right.
Oleson I No. I meiln the community college rC'CJ'llits this program and
then arc suppose to investigate it. There is no way. The is
absurd. Right.
IIorow/ln your looking ilt this program were YOll able tn determine
whether or not most or these moneys went to I\irkwood
Community College in Cedar Hapids or the branch here in [owa
City.
Olesonl That was unclear to me although I think that inlclI'Illation
would be available, Susan, I just didn't ask to have it broken
down. The administrative cost here. rrom whatl\irkwoocl is
getting. is about $3 million.
Courtneyl Just so we are clear on what you are saying here. You are
wanting us to jllsl edllmte ourselves on this. There is no action
that we take on this particular program. I !lope you are
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making this same passionate plea to our legislators on the slate
level because there is action thai they have taken and could
take in the future 011 this.
Oleson/ But there is actio11 that you took, for example. when you
okay a CEBA application that has a local match of 280B money.
Okay. You have the authority to say we are the applicant. We
are not going to apply for 280B moneys. If the recipient wants
to go and deal with the community college by themselves and
get 280B money. that is their business. But the City of Iowa
City as the applicant lor eEBA is not going to look at 280B
moneys as legitimate local match. You do have aUlhori1y. I
don't know when you will gel a next CEBA application. But 1
think that is the reason thin I alii here as well as in those olher
forums that you mentioned. The DED has lots of information.
But some of it is very hard to evaluate. They claim to have
created something like 49.000-52,000 manufacturing jobs in
Iowa. We say, on its face. that is absurd. Then you give them
Department of labor statistics and they say well we didn't look
at this. we didn't look at that. It is a very politicized situation.
But this is one I don't think the City of Iowa needs to be in
collusion with and I think that Ihrough Ihe League of
IvlunicipaJities, through your efforts in talking to legislatures. J
think that you are going 10 have a lot more ability to be
listened to then I am. But I will cont inuing speaking.
Kubby/ Thank you.
I~oberta TiII-Helz/ 600 Manor Drive. And I would like to address the
issue of the CEllA grant application which was denied. When
Clam and I were up talking to Lon Olenzak from Kirkwood
about the 280B moneys I noticed and was struck very forcibly
that the investigatory process there seemed to us as real lacks.
Thai whal in fact was investigated was. as Clara said, the fiscal
soundness of the companies. However, what was not
invesl igated was whet her they would be displacing Iowa jobs.
Whether there had been labor law violations which are called
for in the slatule that those things be looked al. As you know
we also had concerns ahout the investigatory process exercised
by both ICAD here andlhe cily development coordinator with
regard to Millclnl in fOlwarding the CFBA gmnt applicalion, r
/wliew that-have you all rl'ceived these staff reports. The
CEBA project anillysis reporllhallhe slnrf P''l'p,lrecl lilr the
subcommitll'e ilnd the board. II is a two page dOCllment. Okay.
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1 have copies for you here. I believe that there are seven
copies. 1 have another one there 1 an get to you later. Then
tell me if you have or have not seen this.
Horow/ I have no!.
Larson/I haven't.
TilI-Retz/Okay. What this was then was a report of the DED starr on
how they evaluated this project and they sent this in to the
subcommittee and as you know. the subcommittee and the full
board turned down the CEBA grant application for j'l'Jillard
Refrigeration. You can look at this over at you leisure but I
would like to draw your attention to page 2 which is the
sUlllmaIY of the overall project strength and weaknesses.
Kubby/ Excuse me. John. could you and Sue share and pass one more
down here because I can't even look on this one.
TilI-Retz/ I do have seven somehow with Ille somewhere. Okay.
And 1 will get the others to you. So anyway I would like to-the
summary of overall project strength and weaknesses. The
strengths being that ilwas a good benefit package in their
judgment for employees. The Millard had pledged corporate
guarantee and t hat the cost per job amount is relatively low.
The weaknesses of he program-six of them are listed and two
additional unknowns. 1 think 1 will only mention here
weakness /15 which is lack of local due diligence and minimal
financial eflbr!. Plus the two unknowns-Why the Millards
owners established a new company for the ham processing.
namely fPM. And secondly the outcome of the NLlm cases
pending. I think that when we look at this we have to ask
ourselves why this was turned down. Why-how could it have
been stopped. How could either the project not have been
leJIwarded from here if it were going to get an unf~1Vorable
review. What could we have done at this end 10 make sure that
this didn't happen. Can we prevent it I guess so that we do
exercise Jocal due diligence here. And it seems that it is
obvious tlmt we must ore thoroughly investigate. And I do
believe tat everything that I have hemd here. What Karen
found out a meeting or tow ago that the state does feel that
when youlelJ'\vard a gnmt thm you have approved it. That you
think it is an okay gmnt. We do believe. Clam and f that tlll're
are till' resources available here locally both in ICAD and here
with the economic development coordinator to undertake a
resc'arch- an adequate investigation and research process to
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find out some of the things that we with just a couple of days
of vacation were able to find out. And I have a-we have a
draft. I think [ only have seven of them. We drew up a draft
for discussion purposes at this stage only called CEHA and nOB
Funds Application Process Heview. Some suggested questions
and sources of information for investigating applicants. And
this is our modest proposal here to assist in the process of local
review and investigation. And I won't go through this whole
thing with you here. Let me point out basically what we would
like 10 do. What we did was to identify some questions that we
think if they had been asked in this process the whole thing
probably would have gone more smoothly. And some places to
get the answers. And we have three major categories of
investigation. The first being questions about the business and
where to look for some 01' t he answers to those questions. The
second point being information onthe induslI)' and by that we
want to use the dictionary definition of industl)' as generic lass
of companies. And thirdly, informal ion on the nature 01' work
and the types of jobs that are going to be created. Our
overriding goal here is that [owa City use lax payer money
only to bring in worthy corporate citizens and r believe the city
council has made it pretty clear that is your concern as well.
Ane! you need to be able to evaluate whether these are worthy
recipients and potentially good corporate citizens. So those are
the first three areas. We also then on everyone of these
suggestwhal is already I t he books. And a lot 01' these
probably are things you already do but the applicant be called
upon to proVide this infol'lnation. It is there responsibility first
and foremost to provide many of these things that are on the
CERA grant application or you could ask them additionally.
However we think tha1 their answer should be verified and we
give you places to look for to verify that inl'ormation thm they
give you. Now the fifth point that we make in our drafl
dOCllment is sort of a suggestion fClr the city council and the
economic development establishment here in Iowa City. And
that is you develop a public service rather than solely a
marketing philosophy and approach to loenl economic
development. And we have sugl:ested that you have the
responsibility not only In encourage business development in
this area but also in insure compliance with the appropriate
rules and to insure that the company ml'ets loenllo,\pectations.
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There are in some places in the country these citizen groups
that have drawn up whalthey call a code of responsible
employership or the social contract that an employer or
corporate citizen should make with the citizens in the town or
community to which it belongs and particularly when it is
getting tax payers money. And we would like to see perhaps a
formalized some sort of responsible employer code of conduct
or a check Iistthal employers could go through or Ihat the city
council and I could go through 10 say are youlhe kind of
corporate citizen that we want. And we jusl off the top of our
head came up with some of these items on page 2. Are you
going 10 be providing responsible compensation and benefits.
Will you be exerciSing some SOI'l of fairness or affirmative
action in hiring. Will you have an occupational safety and
health program. What is your environmental programming.
Will you attempt to control and reduce toxics althe source and
so. We also then finally had some suggestions for ICAD in
terms of developing or expanding its strategic plan. J might
add Ihat we are hoping 10 meet with JCAD on Friday and will
be presenting this document to them and talking with them
about how they view all of these things. So we are not
expecting you to do that. We did hope, however that there
would be more account taken of kinds of people who are
looking for jobs here. What the local labor markel conditions
are. What the local compensation emlrls look like. And again
we hope an approach like this might help the city and ICAD
avoid fulure disappointments such as we experienced with
Millard that particularly when we are using lax payers money
thaI we might get oniy the most resjxmsible corporate citizens
into our city. And we would hope to be able to use this as a
discussion draft to lalk with you or David Schoen further aboul
these items and what we mighl do in the future 10 enable us to
investigate more tho/'Oughly.
l!ormvl Thank you.
Karrl Do we have a lIlot ion 10 ,lccepl correspondence!
COlll'tneyl Moved Ho/'O\\'. seconded Nov tn accepl correspondence.
Discussion?
MOlinn accepted.
Kubby/ lthink Ihatline will be very helpful to me in thinking about
fulure applicalions, because we had decided Ihal we Iwd
decided thai we were going to talk about Ihis isslle ,lgain in
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terms of our process. And we weren't in the middle content of
an application. so now that that time is over. I hope that we can
schedule some time to talk about this before the next
applications comes. So it's kind of not talking about anything
specil'ically, anyone company.
Horaw/ There is another angle to this, though. that \\'e do have the
responsibility of encouraging and helping the appointments to
the private industry council. I know the ./TPA is different. but
this does certainly incrcnse my sensitivity toward our
responsibilities to \\'ho sits on the prh'<lte indusny council. And
what sort of rules and guidelines that group uses because they
to use taxpayers' money or the community colleges and the
corporations throughout the east central area. And I must say.
I've had a lot of questions as to how the decisions are made in
terms of funding from the programs that go to the industlY and
the colleges. So this is very helpful. I aI\preciate that.
Courtney I Any other items of public disCllssion not included on
tonight's agenda?
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Courtney/ I open the p.h. Comments on this item.
Charles Eastham/ As a member of the Iowa City Housing Commission,
the commission met in a regular meeting this morning, and al
this meeting we decided to designate one person to come this
evening at the p.h.. to renew our endorsement of the city's
down payment assistance program which is one of the
programs recommended to the council by CCN. We considered
this program when we, lhe commission, reviewed all the CJ)BG
applications earlier this month, and we endorsed it for full
funding at that time. We would like to continue that
endorsement. We would like to make a note to the council that
the home buyer's assislance progmms are one of the items t11al
the city's comprehensive housing program strategies as being
needed in the city and as having a priority and I also would
like to point out that in the citizen's input section of the CHAS
t11at was adopted in October of ] 991, there is a letter from Jay
Clark. \lP of NCS, Iowa City, and in this letter. Mr. Clark points
out that one of the difficulties he sees in his business is
employees of NCS who are at the lower half of the wage scale
there. the difficulty those employees have of finding affordable
housing. He indicates thai one of the ways he sees of making
the community more attmctive to employees in those wage
categories is to have programs which help to find affordable
housing. particularly home buyers. So we'd like to continue our
support of this particular bill.
Courtneyl Thank you.
Horow/ Excuse me, I have a question. It occurs to me Ihen essentially
what he is asking is for the taxpayers to supplement the people
that he's hiring in his industry. Is that right?
r~astham/ I don't wish to interpret ~'Ir. Clark's letter that way.
Horow/ No. But it could be interpreted that way. 11 just dml'ned on
me. Thank you.
Robert burns/ Architect. I'd like to speak to you about the Press-
Citizen Building, or the former Press-Citizen Building. We arc
requesting now $150,000 in CnBe; funds. Thai a reduclion in
our initial request. This amount represents the difference
between the sellin!~ price for the building and the site
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it would be \'l'l'Y helpful if the cily would be able 10 find sOllie
eDBG funds. even if it it's nol for lhe complete $150.000. We
have requested the same $150.000 from other sources but we
haven't heard yet. I think it would go a long way if you would
support the project and that is why I am here tonight. [1'-1
believe I think I know the answers to these questions but if
you arc interested in preserving a historically significant
building in Iowa City. in ct.t. Iowa City. and at the same time
preserving this sight for at least 15 years 1'01' elderly housing
and prob,lbly an addilional15 years in total of 30 years and
also a the same time build 18 apart ments for elderly and
handicapped people. This would be the opportunity to do it.
Andl really haven't heard any real negative concepts about
the project itself. There have been some questions raised and
they are all valid. If you have any [would be glad to answer
any that you might have. But it has been my goal and my
objective to try to preserve this building and 11lIild elderly
housing and this is my attempt. So far we have either applied
for or received a commitment on nine sources of financing for
this project. And this is the tenth one. So-
Horow/ Bob. I think-I mean [ certainly applaud your efforts at the
building of affordable apartments and also historic
preservation. I guess my only problem is where would I
eliminate something else at this point to come up with
$150.000. That is vel)' difficult.
Burns/ I agree and I don't even take issue with you on thaI. I think
all of the other applications are worthy.
Horow/ Because there would be more than one applicant and that is
a major blow to our carefully craned package.
Burns/ Well. there is a possibility of a supplemental appropriation
for CDge; funds. So that is another possibility and we plan to be
under construction by September 15. So it could be a jobs
creation kind ofa commitment is that is one of the strings
attached to the supplemental appropriation, You could take a
look at the contingency fund that you have and there may be
some applinlllls who would be able to reduce their l'l'(jUl'st by
5-10%. I don't know but the way the sources of financing are
combined andlhC'ir relntiouship to each other, tl1(' eDge;
progmm is just one of the sources that we have to use Ii>r
acquisition and that is why Wl'me hC'll'.
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I\ubby / Would a small amount or block grant money help leverage
other source that you arc looking towards. Ithink it would
sholl' them. the DED, that you are committed to this project as
well as the others that have applied. They can understand that
you have many projects to fund but-
Kubby/ Does the tax abatement agreement that we talked abut last
year count within that application for this other source.
Burns/lt does but it mostly helps during the operation phase of the
projeClto keep the renls afrordable. Our rail' market rents
which is what we commit to for a one bedroom apartment are
less than what the rents are at the Ecumenical Towers. So thaI
is what we are trying to do. It is a difficult job to do. That is
where the property tm: abatement comes in. I think lhat is a
demon straHan of the city's commitment There is no question
about that. Butl am still short $150,000 to acquire the
building that is including the $900.000 01 private capital that
we is committed to 1 he project
Kubby/ And how much and what is kind of the minimum amount
that yon feel would sholl' the city's commitment via block
grant Will a couple of thousand dollars be helpful when
leveraging those other funds. Or does it need to be a more
substantial amonnt to be helprul within you other application.
Burns/ln ans\Ver to )'ou question, in all honest 1)'. ] would sa)' a
substant ial amOllllt.
l11/'Son/ Bob. m)' problem with it is it is not the anI)' wa)' to preserve
the building. There are other buyers apparently interested in
preserving the building. With the amounl of money per unit
we could hand mane)' 10 low income people fbr 30 years and
let them bu)' places. It is just a penn it unit cost And if you
remove the effort to preserve the building which I am vel')'
much in favor of and I \Vould hate to lose it because I think it
is a stunning building and only focus on the pr0\1sion of loll'
income housing. )'OU got to agree there are lots of better bang
for the buck elsewhere.
Burns/ Well, that is one of the topics that need more explanaUon. I
read the article in the papl'r too t hat says the pl'r unit cost is
$92,000 an apartment. But it also doesn't point oulllml
$:~O,()O() a unil is for acquisilion of he site, And $10.000 of Ihal
per unit is for just restoration or he exterior. Noll' granted. tlml
is all mone)' that could be used for some other purpose. I
understand and if thai is your choice then at least we have
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tried. But it will preserve the building. I am committed to
tilat. I am committed to that in writing in the agreement with
the Press Cilizcn. It wiII preserve that site as a site for elderly
housing nol\' and in the future for at least 30 years.
Kubby/ Do youilavc any figures that if eventually or when
eventually be GG units, the total, are built I\'hat the cost per
unit is. Because in a way it is unfair to say it is $92,000 a unit
when it may indeed be today that $30,000 of each unit is for
acquisition and 10 for restomtion. But those numbers will be
CU! drastically when those other 48 units are built.
Burns/ The land cost would be zero dollars for the additional 48
units because we would have already acquired it.
Nov/ But you don't have a plan. You don't have a time line for the
other 48 units, right.
Burns/ No, I don't have a tinK' line for it but I am willing to commit
in writing to build the additional 48 units as affordable rental
housing. elderly and handicapped housing, if I am able to
obtain the funds, I can't make a commit because I don't know
whether I am going to be able to obtain tile funds. It certainly
would be-you can understand my preference to so that.
Nov/ I understand. I also understood that part of the money you
had in state funds or federal was a commit to fund 66 units.
Have they now rearranged their commitment to ] 8 units.
Would they Jowcr their amount if 1 hey had to colllmit to ] 8
units. Not at tilis time. But tiley haven't said no eitiler. But all
of the sources or finanCing are contingent upon all of the other
sources. And] believe I\'hat they have told me. They are
I\'ait ing to see if' we are awarded low income housing tax credit
and tha1 is another applicationlhat is pending. It is already
into the 10ll'a Finance Authority. They even wrote and told me
that tiley lI'ere going to I\'ork closely witil the 10l\'a I~jnance
Authority to see ilow tilat application does there for the tax
credits. So, if wc don't get tile lax credit we I\'ill have to scrap
the project.
Kubby / For example t he HOlliE funding-
Burns/ That is lile onc she is talking about.
Kubby / IUght. I\nd lhose people knol\' I hat it has been reduced to 8,
Burns/ Yes.
Kubby/ And the amount of money is stifl tilere. It actually there was
some aclditionall1loney given. mrrect.
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llul'l1s/ There is enough money tn do the projectlhere. And tJley
actually had set aside thaI money for the GG unit project.
Nov/ I know. I am jusl concern that because the money was set
aside for GG units it will not necessarily be lhe same amount
for 18 units.
Bul'l1s/ I understand your concern but I believe t hey would have
said no by now because what they have said they arc waiting
on in making a commitment to see what the tax credit
application does.
Nov/ And what kind of agreement do you have with the Press Citizen
about holding your options.
Kubby/ June 1.
Burns/ June 1 S.
Hormv/ I have a question for stall in terms of the supplemental
appropriations. Marianne, did CCN talk about the use of
supplemental appropriation moneys in terms of the priority
ranking of these projects.
Milkman/ It was mentioned. At our recommendation we urged
them not 10 think that was money in the pot already. With
what is going on in Washington right now it is really not sure
that money exists. However they did discuss that and they did
raise the issue that that migbt be available.
Horow/ But these projects are ranked in priority in the big book. In
other words lets say that bis was ranked number, what, l4 or
lS. No l3.
ivlilkman / ! would like to add that one of the questions raised was
council had agree to the, at a consensus, to the tax abatement
for the GG unit project But you had not discussed that in
relat ion to the l8 unit project
Kubby/ Do you think. I guess maybe I need to change my mic. Ask
committee members if that influenced the ranking. That we
hadn't talked about the 18 units. I am get ling one shake of the
head. Maryanne Dennis, do you agree with tlml.
Hol'Ow/ ! am sony, I didn't see ~'Ialyanne Dennis.
Kubby / So. if city council \\'ere 10 agree to the tax abatement for the
l8 unit building, the ranking of this projeclmight have gone
up.
M<uyanne Dennis/ I think the ranking of the project might have gone
up. We had a very-! think youl<now even in lhe ralionall'. It
was a vcry spirited debate about this project. lthink there
was lots and lots of support fill' this project on the committee.
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There lI'as a concern about if the smaller project lI'as completed
II'hat guarantees do lI'e have that the larger projectll'ould be
completed even though we know that it were to be completed
that would mean thai none of the money-there lI'ould be no
cost for land acquisition. There was some other, what the
commillee thought, were more bigger things than that also. If
it were to be, if the bigger project were to be completed. do we
have a guarantee that that would be. that the project would be
a long term housing for low income, elderly, and!or people
with disabilities.
Kubby! Did you ever specll'ically talk about a smaller amount of
money to help leverage this application for acquisition.
Dennis! The original request was large.
Kubby I It was what. $300,000.
Dennis! Right. And when Mr. Burns presented the original request
that question was asked and the answer that I believe he gave
lilr that was that he would he able to do the project for
$150,000. Which was subsequently been his Dnal request.
Kubby! Okay. Thank you.
Nov! And what I understand is that if the contingency money comes
in it was something like $30.000. When that the amount that
you added into contingency.
Kubby! That is the extra money that might be coming that was
added into contingency.
Nov!Was that $30,000.
Dennis! Right. Total of $W.OOO.
No\'! Weill would propose that we spend the entire $60,000. But if
this $30,000 which hasn't yet arrived could be spent on
something like this would it be useful. Would it make any real
difference.
Dennis! For this particular project. I don't knoll'.
Nov! Yes that is my concern. It is no where near 150. No. No. [am
thinking tllat was the money that was added in tl1is week.
Milkman! I think [ should just explain. The public is not aware of
this extra $30,000. The original notice in the paper talked
about $] .002.000 funds available. We since have been told by
HUD that we need to also budget money we expecl to receive in
pro!~ram income that is in loans that elJl' being repaid over the
course of this nt\'\t year. And so we are including an extra
$30,000 In Ihe overall budget li)r this coming year. So Ihat we
would have $1.0.32.000. However, Ihe S30,OOO will trickle in in
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t he course or ilK' year. They well be more or there may not be
as much. II is an estimated figure and it is very dirficull to
commit that ,11 this time.
Nov/ We can't say that we arc arc going to commit it on July 1.
Milkman/ Half way through the year maybe we will knoll' or have a
better idea of how much there is.
Courtney/ Well. at the risk of being shot down. I can't imagine that
we 1I'0uld have any objections to a reduced tax abatement.
This just means that we are abating less taxes thenll'e were
before and I can't imagine an argument against that from the
city council's part.
Nov/ The total will be less. Noll' the value will be less. So the
abatement will be less.
Courtney I Yes.
Larson/ Unless lI'e deride that lI'e don'tll'ant to support the project
at all.
Courtney'! Okay. But] don't think the tax abatement question is one
that would determine whether lI'e lI'ant to support the project
or not.
I~lrson/ But it might now from out decision that we could get more
loll' income-
Courtney/ I just think that is a non issue that lI'e agreed to abate
$60,000 or I don't remember what-
Kubby/IllI'as $100.000.
Court ney I HlI'ilI he less t hen that. Any time I can not abate taxes it
is okay too. Any other discussion.
Atkins/ Darrell, that also 1I'0rks against the project driving the rents
back up too.
Courtney I No. II is less number of units and so it is less value to the
building so it is less taxes.
Kuhhy/ Although maybe not proportionately.
Courtneyi illaybe not. I haven't put the pencil to it.
Atkins/ I haven't either.
Nov/ III'0uldthink proportionately. I don't knoll'. Youmighl figure
out-
Burnsi II is very important tothe operation or the project. II is
relative that we me only talking abut properly taxes on .I R
units. But it is [i)r those I R units so it 1I'0uld be important.
Courtney/ It is important that you still have the tax abalement. But
whal r am saying is that I can't ima!line it beil1ll important to
us. Someone raised that tome. II maybe had heen you the
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oll1l'r day Ihatwe may not wilntlo abatement on ,1 lower
amount. I just-for a smaller size project. And I would think
that we would want to.
Burns! While I have the Door. In answer to the question that you
ask Mary. whether the $30.000 would be substantial. I would
think that that would be substantial.
Kubby! It is helpful. thank you.
Nov/ We just found out it trickles in so we can't lite!"ally advocate it.
Courtneyi Lets move onto any other discussion on any other projects
or this one if you wish to.
l\ust Martin! I am a member of CCN and I just wanted to respond to
a couple of points. Some of the same arguments I used on the
committee. Maybe I will have more luck here and primarily I
am thinking if you do get supplemental money or if you agree
to take money from somewhere else. lthink part of the
problel11 with the committee was it was just such a large
project. And then it got smaller. You know but by then I
think, particularly when you talk about rankings. I think this
project would have been l'<Ulked much higher if we didn't have
to consider how much money we had and competitive projects
and the amount which was just such a big chunk. l\esponding
to l\andy's question about bang for the buck. I don't think you
can get in a real important sense a belleI' bang for the buck
then pulling low income disabled housing in this local ion. The
placement. The conversations you arc having with SEATS. The
necessity of those pmp]e to have access to the University. to
the Library, to all the stuff that happens (Lt. Just to point that
out. And finally I think lhat one of the things we had concerns
about on the committee and they were very valid concerns was
is this thing all going 10 fit together now with 18 units, with (15
later on. Is al this money going to come together. And what I
argued then and wlJilt I nrgue now is why not appropriate the
money now. If it doesn't come together you will get the l110ney
back. Andl am sure the council docs that on occasion, You put
money into a project and it the other sources don't come
together. ;\ 101 of progml11s have to have federal funds from
over here and state money from over t here. You know. take a
step 1(1Iward on this one and I would l'ncoul,lge you to
considered finding the money to clo thaI sOl1lewlll're. Thanks.
Kubby/ Do you have any idms.
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Horow/ Would you consider taking something out or here or all or
the contingency.
Larson! How much do you think would need to be-
Martin! I think. hey. you are raising all of these questions. I just
want to advocate it. No. Well. I was one or the people onthe
committee who kept mentioning Bill Clinton's runds and I was
much more certain that it was going to happen then. Because I
know, after being on the committee. I know that CDBG money
at least in this community is not pork barrel money and is
spent very wisely. So maybe there is money that way. If you
could get-you could I1nd $30,000 somewhere maybe. Then to
leverage all or this other money that Bob has worked out. That
would be quite a bargain. r justlhink it is very attractive
proposal. The committee. you know I want to characterize the
opinions or the people that disagreed to much other than to say
that the committee people thought it was a good project. There
is just questions which you have all touch on I think tonight.
Larson/ Competing with other good projects is the problem.
Nov/ Would the committee like to consider $30,000 Jar this and
$15.0001'01' this other loan program which 1 don't like.
HorOlvi I wondered iryou were going to raise that or not.
Kubbyl That J really difficult when there is not a meeting to answer
that.
NoviNo. No. r am not saying answer it today. I am saying think
about it.
James MaiMr. Mayor council members. city orficers. 234] Cae Drive.
Iowa City. I have been in Iowa City since] 973. The I1rst time I
come up here. I am a member or the Salvation Army, Iowa
City Corps. I have been wit h t he Salvation Army 1'01' 30 some
years. We arc starting up a project. Captain Miller is here. She
hurt her leg recently so I will do the talking 1'01' here. And we
are requesting a rund J()r $15.000 for the soup kitchen, We
want to. r guess you have already discussion already. We are
going to proceed and try to get the equipment when the runds
available.. I guess we know there is a need here in the
community and we. as a local businessman. we have all or the
supportl(lr this project. I personally have been in restaurant
business I(}r 20 years and I am right nOlv consulting with
HyVee. the deli, and knowing how they ope'rate the l(lOd and
also knOlvin!: what the set up should be. I\nd we have a lot or
people helping us with the construction and getting other helps
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in making sure it is done right. So I am open to questions that
you have.
Horow/ Now this is proposed for the building that is on Highland.
Ma/ yes.
Horow/ Okay. It is a good location.
Nov/ One of the questions that came up yesterday is a concern about
not having a single day without one meal because the lunch
program at the Wesley House has 6 days a week and Salvation
Army is proposing to serve six days a week and we don't want
to have the same day missed on both schedules.
Ma/ We would mostly be doing nights. The evening meals.
Nov/ Yes. I understand. But which night do you plan to skip.
Captain Miller/We may not skip any. We haven't gotten that far in
the planning. We said we would do it definitely six nights. If
we skipped any of course it would be Sunday. That would be a
consideration. We would not be opposed to sen1ng on Sunday
and not serving the other days. We would not be opposed to
serving seven days.
Nov/ Okay. Because I think the lunch is not on Sunday. The Free
Lunch Program. And so if your off day was also Sunday tlmt
would mean people without a kitchen and without the ability
10 go to a restaurant would Imve no mea] on Sunday.
Captain/ /twould not be a problem. We could serve on Sunday. It
was something that we had not considered. 11 is a good point.
We would have no reason not to serve the full seven days,
actually.
Novl Thank you. If we had this service on Sunday we would also
have to work our some system of transportation on Sunday.
And / know the city buses don't ordinarily run on Sunday and
we might have to consider some kind of special shuttle at that
hour. These things have to be incorporaled.
Milkman/ This WilS discussed to CCN meeting, too. I am going to
speak fbr Captain Miller because she is having a rough time.
They are looking into gelling a couple of buses, in f~1Ct. to use
evel)' night to transport people from probably you mentioned
two or Ihree areClS d.t. to till' soup kitchen and back into the cLt.
area. So Ihal is something that they are looking into.
Kilt)' Davis/ (can't hear) We are going to have an open house thl'
first Salurda)' in May from .10:00 to 1 PM. So tr)' out our
cCXlking,
Kubby/ Are you cooking.
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Davis/ Jimmy ilIa and Polly from China Garden and I are going 10
donate the food and do all of the work. There will be Jots of
hoJ's devol'S.
I/o row/ What time is thai gain.
Davis/ 10-1 PM.
Kubby/ I requesl vegelarian.
Davis/ Yes. I was just going to say lhat. Last lime I didn't have any
al tllC Neighborhood. So lhis time there will be plenty of
vegetable or hors devours. Thank you.
Bruno Piggot/ 1 am a member of C:CN as well. And I JUSl wan led 10
address a concern of Councilwoman Nov's regarding lhe down
paymenl assistance program, 1111ink il is a decem good
program. In one of lhe lhings lhal r have heard before
councilwoman was the f~lCl that lhis isn'l a community need. It
is something thalmighl be addressed in a dif'lerenl way and
maybe our tax dollars shouldn't go for purchasing housing for
people andl just wan led to say lhalllhoughl ilwas imporlanl
because our tax policy in lhe counlTY supports people who can
afford a down stroke on a house. Purchasing a house. And
ac1ually encourages ilthrough federal dollars on your tel'\
return. I think ilwould be great policy for us to encourage
lower and moderate income people to be able to afford a house
as well and this is certainly a low to moderate income benefit
and so inlhat way if you look al it as helping loll' to moderate
income people alTOI'd a house. A dream which all Americans
parlicipate in. And see that we across 111e counll)' supportlhal
in our tax policy for people who can't afford a down paymenl
on a home. I think it is a reasonable program and one we
shouldn'l cut money oul of to give to olher programs.
Nov/ Well I will reilerale I lhink lhal a communily need Is one thing.
An individual dream is another and as long as we have
communily needs that are sli1lnol fully mel I am not totally in
support of lhis project.
Piggot/ I understandlhal. I jusl think that we will ever completely
meet all of our commllllily needs wilh 1 his million dollars and
certainly Ihis is one that will go-
Nov/ That is my point. You have said it accurately. We willnotmeel
all of our communily needs.
Piggot/Bul this is one lhat is wellwO/'thy of consideralion. So.
thanks.
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Courtneyi Marianne. Ihe $60.000 contingency. Is thaI. I forget from
year to year. Is that normally about what we /'llll very year or
do we have i1 higher or lower in some years.
Milkman/ It has been going down steadily. But this year it looks
higher because of that extra S30.000 Ihat is one in there. It is
still less than 5%.
Courtney/And do we end up using the contingency almost every
year before it is over.
Milkman/ Typically nol. We use a small amount oJ'it only.
!lorow/ What do we use the planning and research on.
Milkman/ That is for doing particularly work onlllethods and other
techniques for gelling affordable housing. It is research that is
required in part for the (]!AS, an anti poverty plan that is
barriers to affordable housing.
Horow/ Above and beyond the general administra1ion.
Milkman/ Yes.
Kubby.l Does it include rental surveys -
jvJilkman/ Yes.
Courtney / ! would throw open l'or discussion some amount of the
contingency going towards Mr. Burns project. I t11ink it is a
worthwhile project and also any 1houghts towards some of he
down payment assistance program going towards that too. It is
the only things that I have heard in discussion here. The rest
oJ'them have no objection it sounds like. Leis get in narrowed
do\Vn to a couple of items here.
Kubby.l I am not interested in taking money from the down payment
assistance progmm. But I am interested in finding a way.
Whether it is a combination oj' block grant moneys larm
contingency. Because I feel uncomfortable taking too much out
of contingency. A combination ofCDBG contingency money and
some other source to get whatever minimal amount would still
be signil1n1nt to help leverage the other applirntions that Mr.
Burns has.
Horow.l I would be more in filVor of compromising wi1h Ihe down
payment assistance and the contingency. I fell the acquisition
for the city of more housing even though it be rental is just as
important if not more.
COlll'tney'! I think one could mnke a cnse for this being Ihe down
payment assistance.
NC)\I/ Dne could, yes. I nm also very concerned that there are people
without homes. The ElIP and DVIP nre over flowing 11l'GllIse
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people cannot find rental housing. And to me this Is a more
urgent community need than helping somebody else who has
housing but wants 10 purchase something. So [would be in
favor of taking $30,000 from that fund and putting it into this.
Kubby/ Are you talking that high. Sue,
1101'011'/ Oh. I think I IVould go $25.000 only because J IVant to leave
a certain amount in there.
McD/ What is the difference between $5.000.
Kubby/ Yeah.
Nov/ Go IVith the whole $45.000 and then J can compromise easily.
110roll'/ I don't particularly wanl to take all the money out of
contingency. That $30,000 doesn't really exIst. J don't believe
it Is there until I see it.
l<lrson/ What is your proposal. Susan,
1l0rO\\'/ I am thinking It up as I am talking.
[arson/ Naomi-
Nov/ $30,000 from the down payment assistance which then
becomes $15.000.
larson/ To go to Burns's.
Nov/ yes.
Kubby/ I thInk that Is taking too much.
Nov/ 11 is a more urgent need. There is no question.
larson/ Why don't we cut the down payment assistance program in
half and gibe that to Bob's and then take the rest to get up to
$30,000 for Bob out of conlingency. That way you are dOing
very little to contingency and you have only halved the down
pnyment program and not gutted it.
CourtneY/IS and J 5. J will go along with that.
i\mbr/ Mr. too,
Horow/ All right. Me, too.
Ambr/ Good.
Courtney/ Got it.
Kubby/ You are saying taking 15 oul of down payment. ThaI is not
halt:
Coul1ney/ $15.000 from it and $15.000 from contingency.
Kubby/ Butlhat leaves the contingency really lo\\', Are you
comfortable wilh havirJll only $15,000.
Courtney' Well. that is why I asked how on en we used it and she
said that \\'e hardly ever use il all.
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Larson! We also have the contingency that is nol in the budget of the
Clinton money that is a contingency type of thing that might
happen.
Courtney! Steve wants to say something. He is squirming over there.
Nov/ Before he squirms, Marianne, stay here for a second.
Kubby/ Continuing squirming but be loll' key.
Nov/ If you would predict realistically how much of thc loans
expected actually come through that would help a great deal.
We don't really expect all of that $30,000 all at once.
II'Iilkman/ At once. no.
Nov/ So if iltrickles in can wc say maybe $15.000 of thatwiJI trickle
in in time for July 1st. Arc we being realistic.
Milkman/ July 1 of this year.
Novl Yes.
l\'IiIkman/ No. No, we are talking about the money that is going to
trickle in after July 1.
Nov/ So how much can we realistically say we could take out of
contingency which is really $30,000 less than what the books
says. I don't knoll'. What is realist ie.
Milkman/ Healistically we have a steady income of about $3.000 a
month of loan repayments. What bumps the program income
up is every time a property is sold that has a housing rehab
lien on it we get a lump sum back. But we never knoll' when
they are going to be sold and this year we did very well partly
because of the Rundell Street house and we got a total of
$65,000 back. But $30,000 came back from the I~undell Street
property.
Kubby/ We don't need the contingency until July because that is
when these moneys is given out. We need it on the end of the
project because people have cost overruns.
Horow/ Mr. Burns's deadline iI' he 15 of June.
Larson/ What I am saying is there are two othl'r contingent events
that you could thinl< of as possible safety valves or
contingencies. One being the Clinton Stimulus money and the
other being the IlKt that Bob's project might not go and he
might not need the money.
Milkman/ I don't think you coukllook at the Stimulus package
money as being contingency money. That is going to be there
and it is going to be spent and it is going to be spent for jobs
and J()r Infrastructure.
Kubbyi It is a different money that you are talking about.
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Milkman.' Yeah.
Kubby/ So what I am saying, Sue. with talking about it coming in is
that we use $15,000 or this contingency that is solid. We knoll'
that we are going to get the money. Then we are at a deficit in
our contingency f(l!' what we would like to have but that will
rise up as the money trickles in. So like we are fronting the
contingency but we are going to get it back but we don't know
what level it will be in. That was what my-
Courtney / Steve-
Atkins/ Just as an aside. If President Clinton heard you talking
about trickle in and own he would probably have a fit.
hubby/ We mean it in a different way.
Atkins/ I think you do. Okay.
Kubby / [ do.
Atkins! That wasn't the point I wanted to make. All the trickling
going on prompted that thought.
I want to remind you that last night you specifically stated that
you wanted to wait until the meeting of Monday night, the
26th-the informal- to make your official appropriation
decisions. Tonight you are doing a p.h. And you were making
appropriation decisions. 1 just wanted to remind you that is
what you decided.
Nov/Oh.
Larson/ [ thought we are suppose to give them direction tonight.
Atkinsl Omcially we had to have it by that meeting. You certainly
GlI1 but that is the message that was left last night. That we
would wait. We hear it out and then you decide to do what YOll
are doing to do.
Courtney/Well we can make the final decision at the next meeting.
Atkins/ This was just a note of reminder.
Kubby / This maybe was just a discussion.
Nov/lf you are going to talk about loan repayments which kind of
float back and forth through the year that would be the logical
place to put your down payment assistance and be more J]rm
alxltlt something like this because you are not going to spend
that $-15,000 all at once.
Milkmani That is true. That would be one way or looking at it. The
other way or looking at it is that the loan repayments from the
housing rehab program and in the past the policy has been that
they go back into the housing rehab program.
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Ncw! So we are Ihen talking aboul $300,000 plus $30.000 in Ihe
housing rehab program ir-
Milkman! No. The $30,000 won'l be budgeleduntil next year. The
$30,000 is slaying as unprogrammed funds until FY95.
Kubby!lt will be considered carryover nexl year.
Comlney/ LeIs do this. This is fairly short notice for you 10 give us
alllhe l1gures and stulT. Since we are nOlmaking the final
decision until two weeks form last night. If you wanllo pul
togelher some pros <md cons on this for us why then we can
make our final decision onlhis particular plan.
Kubby/ And I wouldn't mind. I don't knoll' if it needs a special
meeting or the committee but get some feed back li'omthe
committee. It would be very helpful. J Ihink an important
part of the process.
Larson/ Either individually or -
Courtney! Okay. Any other public discussion on this item.
Nov/ I have to mention Ihat I had a phone call h'om John Morrisey
about1l1is down payment assistance and he also disagreed with
me. [felt that I have to say Ihatthey have one more on their
side.
Comlney! yes. He visited my ofl1ce also and J told him to call you.
Larson/ Where did he park.
Courtney/ I had no idea. That was the other item that he wanted to
talk about \Vas the parking decision last night. Any other
discussion on 111is item.
Close the public hearing.
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Iowa City City Council
April 13. 1993
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ITEM NO.7- PUBLIC HEARING TO HEAR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC REGARDING THE
CITY'S PROPOSED NON.HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR
FEDERAL FISCAL YEARS 1993.199S.
Comment: Iowa City Is required to prepare a non.houslng community develop.
ment plan In order to meet the requirements of the Housing and Community
Development Act of 1992. The plan lays out non.housing community develop.
ment needs and long.term and short-term objectives for the next six years. The
1993 CDBG allocations must be consistent with both the Comprehensive Housing
Affordablllty Strategy (CHAS) and the Community Development Plan.
Action: .Jf/./ Ifl:a-"
ITEM NO. S. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SUBMISSION OF A NON.HOUSING
93. VI COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR FFY93 THROUGH FFY98 UNDER THE
HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ACT OF 1992, INCLUDING ALL
THE NECESSARY CERTIFICATIONS AND DESIGNATING THE CITY MANAGER AS
THE AUTHORIZED CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER FOR THE, PLAN.
Comment: At Its March 16, 1993, meeting, the Committee on Community Needs
recommended approval of the Non.Houslng Community Deyelopment Plan.
Adoption of the Non.Houslng Community Development Plan will allow the City to
apply for CDBG funds which will enhance the City's ability to address its
community development needs.
Action: 4/tfut/ >1tfp~ft/
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ITEM NO.9. PUBLIC HEARING ON A PROPOSAL TO LEASE CITY PROPERTY KNOWN AS THE
UNION BUS DEPOT. 404 EAST COLLEGE STREET, TO GREYHOUND L1NES,INC.
FOR AN INITIAL TERM OF FIVE YEARS.
Comment: On March 30, 1993, the City Council passed and approved Resolution
No. 93.64, setting a public hearing to receive comments on approving the
assignment of the lease of the Union Bus Depot property to Greyhound Lines, Inc.
The term of the leases shall be five years commencing March 1, 1993, and
extending through February 26, 1995. The monthly rent during the term of the
lease Is set at $1,200 per month, for a total of $14,400 per year. Staff of the
Legal and Finance Departments have reviewed and approved the proposed lease
and have recommended its execution.
Action:
Y1~ OW ~IJAPL
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CourtneYi' Open the p.h. on this item.
Kubbyl 1 have a question. On page 8 under Economic Development. under
short IeI'm objective number 1. Was there any discussion about
encouraging minorily and \\'omen owned business enterprises as
kind of targeting those populalions in lerms of an evolving loan pool?
JI'Jilkman/ No.1 don'l think Ihere \\'as. Nol specifically in relalion to Ihis
discussion of Ihat Jt was relaled more to the rehab program and Ihe
way, the whole way and construction projects in the city and Ihe way
we tlY to recruit targeted small businesses for that 11 wasn't
disCllssed so much in relation 10 the development
Horow/Marianne. 1 would like to ask that a copy of this be sent 10
Bob Ballentine at .JTM in Cedar Rapids, and also to the East Central
Iowa Council of Governments if possible. Thank you.
Courtneyl Any other discussion on this item?
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Courllley/ Moved by Kubby, seconded by Nov.
Discussion.
Kubby/ I do have one more question. It mentioned this is supposed to be a
non housing but there are some housing issues menlloned in here. I
know it's hard to separate things but was it just impossible to not
mention?
Milkman/ That's right. I mean, we realized that to but t here were some
tllings that 1 think they're so closely linkecllike in the neighborhood
----- improvements that it's impossible to avoid the word
housing in there. But the basic housing plan is the eHAS.
Kubby/ Thank you.
Courtney/ Any other discussion?
Roll call-
Resolution is adopted.
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Iowa City City Council
April 13. 1993
Page S
ITEM NO. 10. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE MAYOR TO
93 - ~2- EXECUTE AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST A LEASE OF THE UNION BUS
- DEPOT PROPERTY, 404 EAST COLLEGE STREET, PURSUANT TO WHICH LEASE
GREYHOUND LINES, INC. WILL LEASE SAID PROPERTY FOR AN INITIAL TERM
OF FIVE YEARS.
Comment: This resolution approves a new lease of the Union Bus Depot property
to Greyhound Lines, Inc. The term of the lease shall be five years commencing
March 1, 1993, and extending through February 26. 1995. The monthly rent
during the term of the lease is set at $1,200 per month. for a total of $14,400
per year.
If this resolution Is passed, the City of Iowa City must make repairs to the facility.
These Include roof replacement, compliance with the Americans with Disabilities
Act, and interior Improvements. Estimated cost of these improvements is
$20.000. Improvements will be paid for from the Parking Systems reserve fund.
Action: ThI.uiJv / !If}f~
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ITEM NO. 11. PUBUC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE 1991 EDITION OF THE
UNIFORM BUILDING CODE, AS AMENDED. THIS CODE SHALL BE KNOWN AS
THE IOWA CITY BUILDING CODE.
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Comment: The Iowa City Board of Appeals has reviewed the 1991 Uniform
Building Code and recommended several amendments to accommodate local
practices and to provide for enforcement. The 1991 Uniform Building Code Is to
replace the 19S8 Uniform Building Code.
Action: )f!b ~)
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ITEM NO. 12. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE 1991 EDITION OF THE UNIFORM
BUILDING CODE, AS AMENDED. SAID CODE SHALL BE KNOWN AS THE IOWA
CITY BUILDING CODE. (FIRST CONSIDERATION)
Comment: See Item above.
Action: ~t!~~ / ~ ;U(j till ()4 tUllt'ltLCd!
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ITEM NO. 13 - PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDI ANCE ADOPTING THE 1991 EDITION OF THE
UNIFORM FIRE CODE, AS AMENDED. THIS CODE SHALL BE KNOWN AS THE
IOWA CITY FIRE CODE.
Comment: The Iowa City Board of Appeals has reviewed the 1991 Uniform Fire
Code and recommended several amendments to accommodate local practices '
and to provide for enforcement.
Action:
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Courtney.'A motion!
Moved by Nov. seconded by IIoro\\',
Discussion.
Nov/ Why are we having a p.h. loday on a lease that slarted March 1, s1x
\\'eeks ago!
Kubby/ They just drew straws back there to decide.
Fowler/ 11051. We'\'e had quite a bit of trouble getting this contract back
and lbrth due 10 the 1~1Ct thaI we were negoliating over the phone
and lhrough lhe hlX machine and Ihrough the mail with Greyhound
in Dallas, Texas. And we never really had a chance to sit down and
lalk to them. Everything was long distance. Whenlhis agreement was
signed by Greyhound and mailed to us WiOl the March 1 date on it,
they did not get it here in time to get it approved by legal and get it
onto your agenda. So they putlhe illarch 1 date on it and mailed ilto
us and then because or the lime constraints we had to work under
for publication and everything, we just couldn't do it.
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Nov/ Is there some other more realistic date?
Kubby/ No bec<luse they want them out on iI'larch .1.
Larson/ They rented il anyway and it \\'as just a continuation or the
tennnc)' nt will they were in and
Gentry/ Are they in possession!
Fowler/ II 81: II is currently in possession.
GentlY/ So they haven't assigned n release 10 Greyhound!
Fowler.' Not to my knowledge.
Gentry/ We can jusl change t he dale.
Nov/ Do we want Greyhound to pay retroactively! Is that the reason?
Gentry/ The)' don't owe any unlil the lease has been assigned 10 them.
Atkins/ Wouldn'lwe want to leave it at the March] date because
financially that's better ofT lilr us because they have to pay!
Centry.' We're not entitled to n double payment.
;\Ikills/ They may make double payments, bUllhey're paying at a rate less
Ihan what 1 he lease calls for now because o/' the paperwork.
Therelilre the March renl should be at 1200 and not 650.
l"lrson/ I/' Ihey're expecling 10 pay th,1I anclwilling to, lei's keep it thai
wny.
(;enlry' That's !'inc.
Nov' The lease also menl ions /'I.'ill eslate laxes ,1Ild morlgage?
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Gentry. The lease is very, vel}' stock, outdated. inappropriate 10 a city
private enterprise. Obviously someone in lIallas drug out Iheir
sli1l1d,mi lease and allal'/Jment. We're no! doing any allol'/Jment here.
There's no mortgage. bUI obviously they have their corporate
allorneys and this is adequate lelr our purposes.
Fowler! That's exactly right. They requested thatlhe lease had to be, Or
they didn't requesl. They wanled the lease written on their standard
lease form. And we tojd them thai a lot of il didn'l apply to us but
they sllll.
GenII}';' And it doesn't do us any harm. There's nothing inappropriate. It's
a little confusing. I haven't heard attornment since law school.
Kubby! And why are taking money from Ihe parking reserve fund and is
it a loan or is iI JUSl a payment oul?
Fowler/ Parking Systems owns the building.
Kuhby/ Okay. fI's nol a loan. It's just a paymenl for iI.
Alkins/ And the lease payments go back to parking.
Larson.' Thal was my first question.
Ambr/ ln taxes ii's allornment. In iOl\'a. ii's atonement.
I,arson/ Arc you all done Naomi?
Novl I'm through.
Larson/ I'm going to vote agin iI. because I think ii's a vel}'. vel}'
subslandard amount of money they're paying for an extremely
valuable piece of property. And I understand Ihe argument is, we
should subsidize bus service so that it's centrally located and
accessible to our ciliwns. But I understand the efforts of staff to tl}'
to gel as much for Ihis local ion as they could from Greyhound. But I
just don't think it's the proper use of Ihat piece of properly. Ilhink
there's other locations thallhey could give Ihat would fit
Greyhound's needs, ftlthe conl/llunity's needs, and open up this piece
of property that would he beller used by Ihe city for something else.
Having recently become more familiar with what near downtown
property is worth. especially with us dOing all the improvement. I'm
not 1rying to convince anyone. and I'm perfectly willing to be
outvoled but I jusl won't approve a Imse at that amount for that
location.
Courtney! Any olher discussion?
HolI call.
Molion approved (l<lrson voling no).
I havcn'l selid that in a ymr and a hair. I don'l think.
l.<1rsoni ;\boul a year. l.asl time Karen was gone. I vol('d no.
Kubby/ To fill in lilr me. ThanKS.
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Courtney Open the public 11earing.
Robert Carlson' I am the Chair of the Board of Appeals and t11ere are
two Ihings Ihat \Ve wonld like to bring np to council t11at came
up during discussion. First on is once again we are going to
adoplthe del'inition of lilmily that kind of goes through all of
the various codes, There \Vas discussion if that is the
appropriate definition. That was done when I came on board.
The last thing I want to do is be involved in the redefinition of
what family is. Butl think the council needs to think about
should thai issue be reopened. It has been more than a decade
since it has been developed. And is that the appropriate
definition at this time. There are instances where people are
living as a family that cannolunder the code. So I Ihink you
ought to think aboul \\'hether to do that. The other item is the
Fire Depl. Came and asked if you would change the standard
from the National Standard on Sprinkling Apartment Buildings.
The standard in the code is three story apart ment buildings are
sprinklered and in lo\\'a City we have developed a habit of
grading around buildings so that the lo\\'er level of a three
story apartment building is not a story and \\'e have- The
Board came to a 2-2 deadlock on whether to do it or not. \Ve
are going to change the definition to three levels instead of
th ree storied whic h means 1 hat the standnrd 12 plexes \\'ould
become a three story and be sprinklered. It goes against the
grain of trying to do low income housing. It goes \\'ith the grain
of Hying to provide for protection, We would like a little
direction from council as to. this is going to sound bad. We
want 10 mclin min the ability to 11ave lower cost apart ment unit
at the cost of lhe additional safelY which wonld be more in
keeping with the National Standard. I think you are probably
going 10 gel addressed the Access and you know 1 hat we are
starting to stretch our Fire Department lilirly badly in the
things we are doing. We have gone through a bunch of
discussion on Ihis as \\'hat you are doing about the lilirness.
The guy who has just finished a 12 plex and now the next guy
is goin!lto have unils Ihal are S I ,Oe)() more expensive. Thai in
some poinl in lime we are going to do it and do we want to do
it no\\'. Do \\'e wanl to lead or do we wanl to IClllow. Do we
want 10 folio\\' years behind.
f\ubby.' Did you look al any fire stalislics in terllls or 10I\'(j City and
\Vl1al kinds or /'ire elllergencies are happening in those 12
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plexes that don't ha\'e sprinklers \-'s. apartment buildings that
are larger and do 1011011' under the code. Were those stats
looked at at all. Would you at some point.
Carlson/ Andy brought bunches of information.
Kubby/ Lots of numbers.
Carlson: We can tl} to analyze it logically. The problem is the
incidence is so loll'. 1\11 it takes is one.
Andy Rocca! When we firsllalked about the sprinkler issue inmuti
l~lI11ily dwellings and there were several approac hes that we
wanted to lake and we did research the number of multi
hllnily dwellings that were built in the last year. And we were
looking lor a logical break to lower the sprinkling triggering
mechanism in multi f\lmily dwellings. Ron Boose. the Senior
Building Inspector, was of great help when we reviewed those
numbers. r believe there were approximately 12 buildings
that were built in the last year or II months. That if we would
lower this threshold would be sprinklered. You look at the
number of occurrences of fire starts that we have had in multi
family dwellings, they are loll' in number as compared to
national statistics. But I think it is important that you look at
where we are locating a lot of our multi family dwellings, Out
on the fringe. Increased response times. Still (~lirly densely
populated buildings andlhe f~lct that whether \\'e put this
building a foot lo\\'er into grade or raise it up-that is the only
difference \\'e are talking about. We still have the same
number of oCCllpants \\'ithinthe building. And so I think there
are several (~1CtorS that \\'e need 10 look al. We d have
examples. You can look at dormitories. a fairly dense
populated building, where \\'e have had sprinkler system
activale. keep the fire in check and extinguish it. As \\'ell as
allo\\' the other occupants of Ihe bUilding 10 safely exit. Smoke
delectors. J like to dm\\' a parallellhere \\'ith smoke detectors.
We have seen a dmmatic progression \\'1th smoke detectors.
We started out putting Ihem in common areas around sleeping
rooms. No\\' \\'e are requiring them in sleeping unit. each le\-'el
of the building, and outside of those sleeping areas in common
hallways. So \\'e are seeing this progression andlthink what f
would like 10 emphasize is Ihat if we can combine early
warning and detection of a /'ire with an application of an agent.
thai is what is idenl in terms or fire suppression ane! life salely.
Kubby/ By agent it is jusllI'ater.
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I~occa; \Vater. rigllt. Tllere are incentives to-There are some
incentives that the insurance industry alTers lor sprinkler
system installations and tlley vary to some degree but perhaps
there could be, again as Chairperson Carlson indicated, some
direction or incentives ofTered by the city to allow that. And
that could be h1Ctored in to the operation of the fire
department on whether we are looking at stalTing levels,
response times, different things of that nature.
1I0row/ This reminds me of curb cut situations. In terms of~\\'ell. my
thoughts are getting tllere Steve. Bare with me a minute. But
we felt. the citv fe!lunder tile concern-CCN did not have
enough money to put curb cuts throughout the city when we
were going to put them in and so we as a city took on that
responsibility and funded those curb cuts, right. Okay.
Atkins/ Say that again.
110/'011'/ We allunderstnod the need for curb cuts for the
handicapped. So we made a decision to fund those cw'b cuts.
CCN didn't have enough money so the city-
Atkins/ CCN had, as one of their responsibilities, to try to remove
architectural bm-riers and what we chose to do was, instead of
requiring them to appropriate $25,000 a year, we switched it
over about four years ago or something like that to simply part
01' routine street maintenance.
1l0/'Ow/ That is right.
Atkins/Yes. that is what we do.
Horow/ So having that sort of precedence I am wondering whether
or not we might not be able to consider the same sort of
financial arrangement li.lr those three level structures that are
expressly designed fi.lr alTordable housing.
Atkins/ I would suspect that support in the ((mn of some kind oj' a
subsidy Jbr the operation. How you would go about it
financially and what the cost would be. I guess-
Kubby / And the def1nition of affordable.
HorO\\'/ Noll' wait a minute. We deal with this definition of
arI()f(lable listening to the developers as to who is going to
come in all the time.
Atkins/ Well. whatever the number is I understand the dilemma of
the Board and Andy's dilemma. I happen-personally happen to
prefer erring in hlvor of having a sprinkler system.
Nov'! I would like to say lets just pul it in,
Larson; I would too.
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Horowi I would too,
NoV/ There are the same number of people. They deserve the same
safety. Why should it be difTerent if they are living on a
difTerent ground level.
Atkins/ We have disCllssed that as a stalT on occasion. That very
issue. That loll' cost housing does not have to be less quality
housing and the life safety issues. as l{andy pointed out, are
legitimate issues that should just simply be covered routinely
and incorporated in the development of housing.
Larson/ If you IVant to subsidize low income housing lets do it.
Atkins/ Then IVe make that decision.
HorolV/ But IVait a minute. What do youmC<1n by that then.
Larson! I just mean that if IVe lVant to subsidize 101V income housing,
let's do that directly rather then by saying that lVe arc not
going to pass a code that makes the housing of those buildings-
for the construction of those buildings more expensive. I just
don't think IVe provide lesser quality for 101V income housing. I
think the subsidy is more direct has an impact-
Horoll'/ So II'here would the money from the sprinklers come from.
Larson/ We just require that they have to put them in.
Courtney I I IVant to back up here a second. We are going to say that
all three level buildings need to go back and retrofit-
Novl No. We are talking about nelV building code.
Courtney / Just the nell' building. That that lVilImake them more
expensive to build and make them less competitive in the
market place.
R<x<:ai Could perhaps,
Atkins/ No. I am not so sure I agree lVith that. I think it makes it
more expensive to build. I am not so sure it makes them auy
less competitive IVhen you are comparing it to another nelV
unit. NolV II'hen you are looking at other older units that don't
bare the cost or did not bare the cost of putting in the sprinkler
system. yes. But a nelV unit like to like right nolV IVould be
comparable. As l~lI' as if' you choose to subsidize that in some
l~lshion, I alll assuming you IVould give us direction to figlll'e
out sOlllething. That is a separate issue.
Nod Right. That's really a separate issue. Andl alll thinking of
something that is a three story apnrtlllent building and
something else across the street is tIVO stories IVith a basement.
But they are still both 12 units ,md IVhy shouldn't they ens! the
same. Don't see any reason II'hy they have to he cheap.
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Kubby/ Andy, would you say that we have a lesser instance of fire
emergencies because of our housing inspection services.
Hocca/ I think certainly that is a contributing 1~1Ctor there. The level
of code enforcement is certainly high. It is a good program.
And 1 think that is a contrihuting factor. But we have had
some fires in recent times. You don't have to look very l~lr
back in our fire history to look at S0111e of those losses to
apartment compk~\es and rooming houses and fraternities.
Why that may not address the fraternity, sorority, Greek house
situation entirely I think clearly there is some history there
and it is a pro active measure rather than a reactive measure
and that is the direction the fire department would like to
head.
Kuhby/ I think we are going to need to do that with definition of
family sooner of later whether peopie really want to deal with
it or not. 1 would be in favor of opening that discussion. Ten
years is a long time with the change or how people actually live
and have roles in our society.
Larson/ I would agree with that. That we have to take on that battle
sometime. About '93 John. '94 I mean.
McD/ I don't care. We can open it up and talk about il anytime you
want to. Actually I wouldn't mine being a part of that one.
Horow/ I think I am going to move rrom this end of the table down
here.
Ambr/ ] mean you are talking about when to talk about that
discussion. II' you go ahead with the next motion by golly you
are in it. And I don't think it is fair to the people who aren't
aware of what is in this document that aren't here tonight. So,
Mr. ivlayor. when this is done here r respectively request that
we continue this p.h. to let those Iblks who knoll' what a time
bomb that is sitting here have a cimnce to come clown and talk
alxlll1 it.
l.arson/ But we didn't decide that we were going to amend the
definition of family tonight, right.
Kubby/ And I am not even plwxlsing that we get into that discussion
tonight.
Larson/ But we are just perpetuating the same definition in this one.
It isn't change din this document.
Courtney/ f think we need to just step back a second anclletLinda. I
went through this with Linda last night as what a/Tect Section 7
on page 2 has here.
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Ambr/ Why is it in a clocumentlike this.
Gentry,' 11 mirrors the definition in the zoning ordinance which has
been in Ihere probably since 1983.
l\ubby/ It has always been in the line.
Larson! Whal is the change in this document.
l\ubby! There is no change.
Larson! Why does it say delete the definition of family in section
407.
Nov! Because it is dealing with the state code and substituting local
language.
Courtney/ You got an explanation coming here,
Boosel The liBC has a definition of liullily that does not correspond
with the City of Iowa City zoning ordinance derinition. So \\'e
are being consistent.
Gentry / We are keeping The similarity.
lmson! We are nol changing Iowa City's definition of family at this
time.
Genlryl No we are not.
AmlJ/i That is nOllhe way I read it. I am sorry. This is whalwe
were talking about adopting tonight.
GentlY/ [t has been in the zoning ordinance for ten years. It is the
same.
Ambr/ Well, [ won't vote for it in this.
Boose/ That reference to deletion, Bill, is for-
l\ubby / What is the problem with this definition.
Ambr/ A family JlIay also be two or more persons not related by
blood, marriage or adoption. That is not a definition of a
family. Family definition is an individual of two or more
persons related by blood, marriage. adoption or placement by
governmental and social service agencies occupying a dwelling
unit as a single house keeping organization. I am well satisfied
with that definition.
Larson/ It is the second sentence that expands that 10 two unrelated
people that-
AmlJ/i I don't see any necd to have that.
l\ubby/ Is that second scntcncc in the '83 zoning-
Gentry! Yes. They are both in therc.
Ambr/ Thcn [ think wc ought to start a movcmcnt to takc it out.
Gcntry! Thcy arc both inlhcre.
Now Bill. that mcans that two students wn't be roommatcs in one
apartmcnt.
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Ambr/ I think it has other ramifications.
Novi Yeah, but taking it out means that you can't share an
apartment.
AlIlbr/ Well, I have my eye on a couple of those that we ought to
change too.
Novl I grant you there are situations where more than two are
sharing and that doesn't nt our definition.
Larson/ They can share but they aren't sharing as a j~lmily.
AlIlbr/ Why try to bend 2,000 years 01' tradition and all the
definition of all the academic books that I have looked at.
We're talking about a family. You are talking about something
else.
Nov/ Well. what would happen if we had unrelated people in the
same apartment. Would you then have to evict them.
AlIlbr/ I don't care what you call that relationship but I don't want it
to be called a family.
Larson! Do you have to be a family to live in an apartment.
Gentry I No.
Boose/ All the different zones regulate-are restricted to a hunily plus
one roomer, two or three roomers. For instance in a single
family zone, with that definition of a family you can three
unrelated people sharing a house.
l.arson! Oh. really. In our RS-S zone, you can't have an apartment
with four college kids living in it.
Boose/ No. That would be a violation of zoning ordinance if they
weren't related in some how.
l.arson/ There would be a fell' of those around.
Nav/ I wouldn't be surprised.
Imsonl And I might have participated in one or two of those. I did
not knoll' that.
Kubby II am coming from a very different perspective in wanting
to-I agree with Bill that I want to open up the discussion. But
I \Vould like to even make the definition broader than what is
here. So I think I am definitely going to be voting 1'01' this even
though I also have problems with the definition and would like
to open up discussions at a later date and not hold up the une
and other change'S made because of that definition even though
I have talked about wanting to broaden it for years.
Imson/ Well we could bring it up and ,ul1end it at any time. II' you
did it you ought to do it jilr all oj' t he different references in all
of t he codes.
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Kubby/ ft should be consistent across the city andlhat is \l'hy I \l'ilJ
vole 1'01' this at this time. For that consistency sake.
Horn\\'/ We are still in the p.h. aren't \\'e.
Courtney/ Yes. Any other public discussion on this item.
Kubby/ Can I bring up the changes at this point thall \\'ant to make
to get input. Or do YOll \\'ant me to \\'ait.
Courtney'- Well, lets gel past the public hearing 1fwe are going to get
past it here. Anybody else. Okay. YOllwanted to make a
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Ambr/ I wOllld like to make a motion lhat we continue the p.h. to
have a better airing on this then what I see here tonight.
Courtney/ Is there a second. Motion dies for lack of a second.
Any other discussion.
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Courtney/Moved b f\ubby, seconded by HorOlv, Discussion.
f\ubby/ I had brought up last night the idea of-there is a change in
the area or demolition permit to have a two day delay in order
to noWY city departments in case they want to salvage. And
what r would like to do its make two changes to that change.
One or them is that we have a longer delay and r am open to
discussion as to how long that delay is. Secondly. that we not
only notiry city departments but we sign the property to be
demolished. The surrounding mea. The people driving by
have an opportunity to knoll' what is going to be happening in
the ruture. To have a city phone number on that sign so that
people can get inrormation and possibly get involved in the
process at some point.
Larson/ I thought those themes or philosophies make some sense. r
was interested in starr input as well as a reasonable type delay
or commission. &lard input in lerms or two days is not enough.
Ten days is probably too long. What your feeling was. Because
Ithink it is realistic Ihatwe have a lot or people in the
community that would salvage things ir they knew about it and
we have a lot of people that would like to create action about it
maybe possibly a historically signil1cant house. That some
window of time makes sense.
Ron Boose/ Well, currently there is no delay at all. Vou can come to
the counter and get a demo lit ion permit and go out and start
knocking the house down and I guess we felt that there should
be some way to slow up that process. However, justification
was t he problem. flow do we just i1Y whatever delay we come
up with. Two days is an arbit rary figure. So it is a policy
decision. Stall wouldn't have any objections 10 a longer delay.
If'it can be justified and that is the policy that council wants 10
take lthink there me reasons 1'01' that.
Larson/ I think you jusW)' it on the ground or historic preservation
and elll'ironmentally in recycling in using materials that maybe
the OIvner and also city policies or maybe having our option to
move the house 1'01' loll' income housing or whatever. r think
there is amble policy snpport lell' a seven day period-
f\ubby/;\ neighborhood notil'ication and colllmunity involvement
which we are trying In roster.
Lmson/ What would slrikl' you ,IS being too long given those policies
in lilvor or somewhat or a delay.
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Hoosel Well, wilh /!losl huilding projects it is going 10 lake a
minimum of five working days to get a building permit
anyway. So something along that line.
Hoosel I~ive would be somewhat consistent in thai line or seven.
Boosel I don't know if you would feel that was adequate as l~lI' as
notification. Talk about signing the property. There is
probably going to be a day delay from the time they come in
and fill out an appliealionuntil we come up with some kind of
sign. We would have to design one for them to put on I he
house if that were parI of it. A lot of this is tending 10 take
care of itself now because of I he high cost of taking demolitioll
materials to the land fill a lot of developers are looking for
somebody to take the house. But in most G1SeS Ihey don't want
to apply for the demolition pertuit because they don't want the
publicity.
HorOlvl You think 10 days would be too long.
Larsonl !Xl you use five business days. Is that the standard.
Boose/ That is what we normally tell people.
Larson/ Because if you do that then you have got a week.
Boosel Seven days, yeah.
Larsonl You have a week then if you do that.
Boose/That is what we normally advise people. I1 actually can mn
shorter or longer depending upon our work load. In the sprillg
it is generally a lit tie longer. It t he winter it is generally
shorter than that.
Larson! Well 1 think having a weekend be included in the windOlv.
Whelher you just say seven days or you say rive business days
is important because weekends create a little different trame
pattern and a lillle more notice.
f\ubby I If they come on a Monday five working days is a Friday. So
I would rather say seven days.
Imsonl No because Friday wouldn't be. That would be four and
some portion hut it wouldn't be rive working days.
f\ubbyl If they came in Monday morning i1 would be ~Iollday,
Tuesday.
lmsoni Tuesday would be olle full day. Wednesday. Thursday
Friday.
f\uhhyl Is thaI how you count il.
Larson! And you IVould say the firth day.
!loosel I don't know 1hat we have a strict policy Oil il. We can
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Nov/ S,l)' seven days. II is an easy O/K'.
Kubby/ I would rather error on ten days hut I understand the
reason for being a little more consistent with the olher permits,
(,d4911</ Having heen in this lown too long. If you do seven days we
will have demolition permits heing issued around holidays to
eliminme the number of days, If YOll just do calendar days you
get a four day weekend that you can cut out of there and all of
a sudden there is a lot so your response time is down. So do
working days. Six working days if you want to make sure to
get a weekend.
Kubby/ Thank you. It is a very impor1ant observation.
Larson/ I think that is the kind of thing you couldl/y. [fit create an
outcry. If there is some legitimate reason against it it is easy to
amend later. But] would he interested in favor or six.
Ho!'Ow/ I agree.
Kubby/ Would anybody go for one more day. Seven working days.
Courtney/Me we just going to make an amendment 10 the whole
ordinance. Is that what you want us to do.
Gentry/ Sounds like that is what you want to do.
COtll1ney/ I mean that is Ihe procedure that I WCUH to go through
here to have CUl amendment. We havl' got a motion on the
Door.
Gentry/ You Jleed 10 amend the ordinance herore you vote on it if
you are going 10 vole on it. If you are going to vole on il
tonight.
Kubby/ Me people amenahle 10 seven working days vs. six.
Horow/ I would second that.
Larson/ I don't care.
Nov/ I don't have strong feelings, J think six is probahly enough.
Courtney / You want seven working days.
McD/ Almost two weeks.
Courtney/ Seven working days is nine days.
Kuhby/ What r amlhinking abolll is not just about salvagl' bul ahout
notification to surrollnding properties. By the time gets up. By
the lime someone sees the sign and can gel inlill'llla!ion Ihat a
week doesn't Sl'em-
Larson/ [ don't think it is much or a hardship since people knoll' for
months prohahly thallhey are going 10 tmr down a house.
MeD/ Karen, with the networking Ihat goes on in this town. Areyou
kidding. Somelhing like I hat is llsually known within ahoul
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f\uhhy;' Therefore people don't mind seven vs. six. I will make iln
amendment. I would like to move an amendment that says
that we have seven working day delay in the issuance of a
demolition permit and that the property he posted with Ihe
city phone numher. r don't know if you have to go into that
detail ahoutthe posting. But 10 be consistent lI'ill1 other city
posting.
Horow/ Second that.
Courllley/ Moved and seconckd (Kuhhy;'Horo\\'). Discussion.
All in favor (ayes). Opposed- Amendment passes,
Back to the originalmo1ion. Any fmt her discussion on the
original motion.
Nov/ Yes. I have a couple of questions. Onlhe 180 period which is
now applying to more than] 80 days at the heginning. J clon't
underst,md it. E'\plain how it works.
Boose/ The current wording states that once building permit has
heen issued at least 1 0% of the project has to be completed
within the nrst ] 80 days or the permit becomes null and void.
Then it states thaI if work stops at any time heyond that for a
180 clay period it would also hecome void. But there is no
percenlage of completion. What brought this 10 illY mind was
the Capitol Street. If they would have gone down and turned a
shovel of dirt J would have had very litlle hasis to pull that
permit hecause there was nothing saying that they had to
complete at least another 10% of it. There was nothing saying
that they had to complete-they just had to do sellne work
within the l1ext180 days. This is intended to close that loop
hole. To make sure that sOllle progress or some measure of
progress. Every six months I 0% is a prelly minimum amount.
Nov! So you are really saying that you want .10% in lhe nrst 180
days, 200A> at the end of the second 180 days.
Boose/ At a minimum. yes.
Ncl\'! Okay.
Boose/ 100% in two years.
Now That is nol as clmr as it might be in terms of words here.
Boose! lhalmay he possible. I worked with that wording to try and
change il around and nol get 100 wordy \\'ilh it. Open 10
suggestions. lhatwas my intention though to close Ihat loop
hole so that after the first six months they still have 10 sholl'
sClIne mmsure of progress belc)re t he two years-
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Nov/ I.inda. lITO/lid YO!l read 111<11 sometime be/ore second
consideration and see ii' it can be more surely worded.
Gentry/ Yes.
Novi 1 don't wanl 10 change it today InHllI'ant to make it clearly
understood that IVe expect ,1I1other 10% in t he next 180 days
and 1 am not sure thaI it is as clear as it might be.
Gentry/ Okay. I IVilllook al it. I also wanllo make sure on thallast
amendment you wanllo comply with the wning posting
requirement. Or just subdivision.
Horow/ Post the demolition. That it is going to be demolished.
Gentry/ You said according to city policy for posting. We have
subdh1sions. We have zoning.
hubby/ What are the difrerences in how the property is signed.
Gentry/ One has to be-l guess aClually we rolloII' the same
procedure. It is not required for subdivisions but we do it
anyway.
Atkinsl We are lalking aboulthe physical sign. Zoning requires
placing the sign and also notification within 200 feet.
Subdivision was placing a sign if I recollect.
hubby/ We are talking about placing a sign.
Atkins/ Something thai is visual.
Boose/ Site plan ordinance. Our deparlment supplies the sign for
that and it is just a posting of the property.
GentlY/ Okay.
Kubby/ That is what I am talking about.
Novl Could I also get an e:pl<lIlation on the sect ion of automatic
closing for doors. Stair well doors.
Boose/ That is an additionalloral amendment that was proposed 10
deal with a specific problem that we have inmost apartment
bUildings where the stuir tower doors arc required to have
automatic closures on them and they arc being circumvented
by people blocking them open. Hre inspectors and Ihe lire
Marshall can attest to-you can pick any apartnlC'nt bUilding in
town and you are going to IInd at least some of those doors
propped open. And I he other option in the building code is
that instead of sell' closin!: doors is you have automatic closing
doors. Which we have some in the new addilion or the civic
center. There is a smoke detector on each side or the door.
There is a closer 011 iI. II is normally ill the hold open posilion.
But when sllloke is detected it is automaticalll' closed.
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Boose.' No. It is not a fuse link. A fuse link is-you see those more in
hospitals. It is a lillle older technology where the heat would
aClllally cause the fuse link to melt and shut the door. It would
react much sooner in delection of smoke and wouldn't take the
heat rise.
Larsoni You can do that now inslead of these automatic closure
doors,
Boose/ This is a requirement in apartment buildings only.
Novi What happen if tllOse doors are propped open.
Boose/ Well. there would be no motjvation to prop I hem open
because they would be normally open.
Larson/ You could leave them open.
Boosel A good example is the door right outside here going into the
north wing. It is open all the time. That is a required fire door
but there is a smoke detector on each side of il. Anytime the
building started to fill with smoke it would close.
Kubby/ So that only works if you have a smoke detector put in you
electric-not ballery operated ones but ones you put in your
electriG11 system so it is hooked to the door some way also.
Boose/ It is an assembly that comes wilh the door closure. The
smoke detectors come with them nnd there is a location
requirement as to how far on either side of the door they can
be placed. I don't knoll' the exact IOG1tion but I think it is
wit hin three feel.
1~1l'Son/ What would that run you.
Boose/ I am not sure I have heard. In a new installation around
$200 a door. This was brought up. We had some apartment
owners there. Actually r was surprised at the reaction of the
apartment owners were in favor of it becilllse they would
rather pay that cost up front. The doors being propped open
does deteriorate Ihe hardware of the doors and they are haVing
to go through and replace them. So it should-it is a !itlle more
u Ji'ont cost but it should eliminale Ihe maintenance cost over
the long run.
Nov/ If you wanted to close I he door by hand you could.
Boosei Yes.
Nov/ There could be thai option. Okay.
Boose/ Yes. These are closed at night for security reasons.
Novi Okay. Thank YOlI.
Courlneyi Any other discussion, Linda,' want to go back 10 the
liulIily. Tell me what this ch,lI1ge is that wasn't there be Ill/'('.
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Gently/ Nothing.
Courtlley.' Then why is it being rcwrilleJl.
Gentry/ Someone on the Board of Appeals-
Courtney/ This does not allow or prohibit anything dilTcrentthen
what wc had before.
[arson/ No.
Gcntry/ In terms of trying 10 figurc out how many units are
permitted in each zone or each building-when you are issuing a
building permit you have to look at the zoning codc and you
havc to look at thc building code. This will be simply be
consistent with the zoning codc in terms of dctcrmining units
for a zone. For cxample you can havc only onc roomer in a sJ.
home. Certain zones you can have two roomers plus a family.
So how you define t~llllily might be two people from Systcms
Unlimited living in a home and they might also have a roomer.
But-
Kubby / The way it is written in here is becausc we arc sceing the
whole ordinancc not justthc changes. An din our whole
ordinance that is different from the UBC. So Ihat is why it says
delete.
Gentryl Right. The UBC is dilTerent than what we have traditionally
had.
Courtney/ Any other discussion.
Roll call-
Ordinance passcs I1rst cOllsidemtion. Ambr. voting no.
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Iowa City City Council
April 13. 1993
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ITEM NO. 14. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE 1991 EDITION OF THE UNIFORM
FIRE CODE, AS AMENDED. SAID CODE SHALL BE KNOWN THE IOWA CITY
FIRE CODE. (FIRST CONSIDERATION)
Comment: See item above.
Action: ~/ 11 H;'~/ ;Ut 1/( f
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ITEM NO. 15 - PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE 1991 EDITION OF THE
UNIFORM MECHANICAL CODE, AS AMENDED. THIS CODE SHALL BE KNOWN
AS THE IOWA CITY MECHANICAL CODE.
Comment: The Board of Appeais has reviewed the 1991 Uniform Mechanical
Code and recommended several amendments to accommodate local practices and
to provide for enforcement.
Action: ~D trItU ~O"AO..!7
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ITEM NO. 16. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE 1991 EDITION OF THE UNIFORM
MECHANICAL CODE, AS AMENDED. SAID CODE SHALL BE KNOWN AS THE
IOWA CITY MECHANICAL CODE. (FIRST CONSIDERATION)
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ITEM NO. 17. PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE 1991 EDITION OF THE
UNIFORM CODE FOR THE ABATEMENT OF DANGEROUS BUILDINGS. AS
AMENDED. THIS CODE SHALL BE KNOWN AS THE IOWA CITY CODE FOR THE
ABATEMENT OF DANGEROUS BUILDINGS.
Comment: See Item above.
Action: r:((J.M.c,L-- I 1\ ~I'u
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Comment: The Board of Appeals has reviewed the 1991 Uniform Code for the
Abatement of Dangerous Buildings and recommended several amendments to
accommodate local practices and to provide for enforcement.
Action:
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ITEM NO. 1S. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE 1991 EDITION OF THE 1M;!
ED~E- UNIFORM CODE FOR THE ABATEMENT OF DANGEROUS
BUILDINGS, AS AMENDED. SAID CODE SHALL BE KNOWN AS THE IOWA CITY
CODE FOR THE ABATEMENT OF DANGEROUS BUILDINGS CODE. (FIRST
CONSIDERATION)
Comment: See Item above.
Action: ~P/A.M?J / !/(/!.1.(;
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Courlney, \!cl\'ed by [Jorow. seconded by !\:ov. Discussion.
Ilorow! Yes. Iha\'e a question. The section IOS0S Subsection A
about portable fire extinguishers. Noll' we have recently dealt
with putting in new types of fire extinguishers. Isn't that right.
Andy Rocca' Right, in the housing code. That was a requirement
there. What we have clone ,md for a number of years in the
fire code-throughlhe UFe we have inspected commercial
occupancies requiring that 2:\ lone multi purpose extinguisher
and we just wanted to be more specific within the Uniform
Code itself.
1101'0\\'/ I had a questionloday. At a maneI' of hlCt I was too late for
you. Many of the apartment dwellers are nOlI' having to
change their fire extinguishers and the question which has
come up is what do they do with them. For instance one
property manager has 180 fire extinguishers to get rid of. lIe
wasn't able to get in touch with Floyd Pelkey. And J wondered
whether in dealing with this issue you have had a precedence
in another location to what do they do with all of these fire
extinguishers.
Rocca/ They are certainly substandard in terms of the housing code
no\\'. That doesn't mean that they couldn't be utilized you
knoll' in other areas. They can certainly still stay in apm'tment.
In another location perhaps. And then could be maintained as
such. Butta meet the housing code they would have to carry
the 2AlOIle rating.
lIorow/ So you would suggest to these property managers that they
finish, that they use these out lor their normal life.
Rocca/ That is not going tn hUl1 anything. You knoll' you have got
another location essentially that you have got a fire
extinguisher. It is smaller then again is required by the
housing code and we looked a several hlCtorS there \\'henwe
looked at a minimum size. And essentially the larger Ql1e will
allow you to put out more fire. And when it is rated it's rating
is gained hy an expert us('r \\'hich typically most people are not
expert users of fire extinguishers. The other thing- '.
111rson/ The others are still worth something. aren't they Andy.
Could you sell them.
Rocnv Somebody could I suppose. /\ fire equipment company-if
Ihere \\'ould [1(' a trade in value perhaps. The agent is basically
glorified baking soda so it is not going to harm tlK' environm('llt
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in any way. The s1eel container perhaps could be recycled in
some fashion as well.
lIorow/ I wiII call Royd about this tomorrow. But his I thin your
department should be aware that someone might call about
that
Rocca/ Right And I did field a question prior to yours today on that
same subject and I was going to look into it with some of the
other fire protection equipment vendors to see what their
recommendations might be.
Horow/ Okay. Thank you very much.
Roccal Anything else.
Courtney/ Any other discussion.
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Iowa City City Council
April 13, 1993
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ITEM NO, 19. ANNOUNCEMENT OF VACANCIES.
a. Current announcements.
(1) Historic Preservation Commission - One vacancy for a representative of
the Woodlawn District for an unexpired term ending March 29, 1994.
(Joyce Barrett resigned.) This appointment will be made at the May 25,
1993, meeting of the City Council.
b. Previously announced vacancies
(1) Riverfront and Natural Areas Commission - One vacancy for an unex-
pired term ending December 1, 199~. (Dean Sullivan resigned)
(2) Broadband Telecommunications Commission - One vacancy for an
unexpired term ending March 13, 1994. (Paul Casella resigned)
These appointments will be made at the April 27, 1993, meeting of the City
Council.
(3) Riverfront and Natural Areas Commission - One vacancy for an unex.
plred term ending December 1, 1994. (AI Rebal resigned.)
(4) Board of L tbrary. Trustees . Two vacancies for six year terms ending
July 1, 1999. (Terms of Kent Swain and Anne Hargrave end.)
(5) Parks and Recreation Commission - One vacancy for an unexpired term
ending January 1, 1996. (Jennifer Olson resigned.)
(6) Board of Appeals - One vacancy for a licensed plumber for a five.year
term ending December 31,1997.
These appointments will be made at the May 11, 1993, meeting of the City
Council.
ITEM NO. 20. CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS.
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a. Consider an appointment to the Historic Preservation Commission for a three.
year term ending May 29, 1996. (Betty Kelly's term ends. )
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b. Consider appointments to the Mayor's Youth Employment Board:
(1) One vacancy for a three. year term ending March 27, 1996. (Carrie,
Norton's term ends.)
Action:
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(21 One vacancy to fill an unexpired term ending November 4, 1995. (Kurt
Kastendick resigned.)
Action:
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ITEM NO. 21 . CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION.
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ITEM NO. 22 - REPORT ON ITEMS FROM THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY.
a. City Manager.
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ITEM NO. 23. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO APPLY TO
93- ~3 THE IOWA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY
ADMINISTRATION FOR PARTICIPATION IN AN EXPERIMENTAL SCHOOL
CROSSING SIGN PROGRAM.
Comment: This resolution will direct that the Traffic Engineer make application
for the City's participation In Federal Highway Administration's experimental
school crossing sign program. Approximately 20 communities In Iowa have been
selected to participate In this experiment which Involves the use of a new type of
sign material which Is purported to give better recognition to school, pedestrian
and bicycle warning signs.
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ITEM NO. 24. ADJOURNMENT.
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Courtney / City Council Inl{)I'lnation.
f\ubby/ I will try to be very brief. 1 just have two items. One is I am
getling lots of calls from people about where we are in the
process with the airport. Irwe could-l tried to HClI1 O'Neil
today to know why the Airport Commission. I don't what kinds
of additional informationlhey are asking for. Specifically what
their time frame is. So if we could get an update for all of us.
Larson! First they have to find out and then they can tell us.
Courtney I I think I can give you a Iitlle insight 10 that. The Chamber
Board has appoint a task force 10 study the whole issue and
they have made a formal request to the Airport Commission
that they slow down the process and delay their consideralion
until the Chamber can do some evaluating of lhe economic
benefits of the airport as it sits and so on and come and give
some input to the Commission. And that is going 0 take them
some time because they want to do some surveying of current
users and that will need to be an ongoing process. 1 think, if
anything, that is what has slowed down the process and I, as
one. agree with 1 hat particular tactic that they are using
because 1 think that the Commission to some extend failed by
their consultant in that was not addressed at all before the
whole thing. Whether they move it or not was addressed as 10
how important is an airport period 10 the city. And someone
needs to put that information together so it can be factored in.
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Novl Airport Commission. They are going to have a survey of their
own.
Courtney IIVell, how that was written but I know what the task force
report was to Ihe Chamber Hoarcllast time we were there.
A1kins/lwas at the same meeting as Darrel. I understood it as Darrel
explained it.
NoV/ That doesn'l sound like what it says 10 me.
kubby/ Did it have a time frame.
Courtney/ No.
f\ubby/ ~'Iy second item is about Iowa Sl~nate File 94 about the leIteI'
we wrote about against preemption for pesticides legisl<1lion.
;\n<l as 1 have learned more about th,lIl gel more concerned
about it because it may include 1 hings sllch as disposal as well
as just applicalion. ;\nd it may mean that part of the ordinance
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tlla! nandy lalked about !nterms of Senate notification about
substances being sprayed in aparlment bUildings. We may not
be able 10 kl'Cp that on the books if IlIis certain/(lJ'll1 of Senate
File 94 goes through. So I woulellike to get more detail aboul
what does it really mean J(1I' Iowa City. floes that mean we
can't charge more at the lanelfill if we should have a special
waste authorization J()r a company anel we can'l charge tile one
and a half times because il is a greater risk inlerms of
monitoring, contamination, etc., WhCll does it really mean. !t is
much more broad than/ first though.
Atkinsl I agree anel I am nol so sure that the state knOll'S and /
think Ihis started snow balling and IlIey are throwing
everylhing. Because what will happen is that if Ihis is
approved I hey willturll it over it 10 the DNR to write
regulalions and you are absolutely right. They will have
conflicts galore.
Courtneyl They will interpret it however they want.
Atkins/ I will do my best bul/ just don't really think I could
promise you. / can give the general legislative intent. I think I
understand Ihat. But, boy, 11011' it will shake down into
regulations.
Kubby/ Well, I know Ihalthere are like 20 more amendmenls and
thank god there is not too nlllch longer in the session that it
might get slalled long enough thaI it doesn't happen. But ifany
of you or people out in lhe community know legislators in
different parIs of the stale please contact them. Our legislators,
our representatives are against the preemption so there is nol
lIluch lllore that we can do besides support them in their
position. But if YOll know people across the slale, have them
lobby their people and !fyou know Ihem directly please
contact Ihem. That is all I have.
l<lrsonl (Reads leIteI' of resignalion dated April 13. 1l)l)3)
HorOlvl Thank you. R,mely.
CourlneYI Are you going to 1()lIow that act.
Nov/llmve nothing to say.
Ambr/ No business.
Horow/ I do. But it has 10 do wil h spring. I wanleello reminel
people-I wish we had kept him (()r lasl. TIll're is a ck><lnup
elay on April 18th. Ralslon Creek Clean Up from noon lInlil 4.
For inl(lJ'lnalion call Terl'sa Carbray, 338-l)4.fl. There will be
two lire collection days. One held hy Ihe I.ongfellow
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Neighborhood, April J 7. I.eave your tires on Ihe curb before l)
Am and in the Grant\\'ood Neighborhood area the Tire Day will
be on April 24. Both of those areas please contact your
neighborhood association 1'01' further informalion. And they
also need some help. A reminder Ihat City Carton will be
accepting magazines on .June 5th. So stan saving the, I have
gOI so m<U1Y that I need 10 get rid of them anyway. The Project
C;reen Garden Fair is the Hmvkeye Arena on ~Iay 8 and so that
sort of takes care of all of us helping to keep this greal city
cJean and looking nice in the spring lime. I also had the honor
of last Saturday to be up in Cedar Hapids and take part in a
ci\~c occurrence in terms of Ihe storm water labeling program
lhat is sponsored by the stale through the fCCOG. On your
screen is a picture of a fish-the words Dump No Waste. Dmins
to Stream. This. with the permission of the City- Jn other
words, any group or citizens who wml1to put this. His an
educational program. Th is outline would be in front of a storm
sewer to remind people to nol to dump paint of hazardous
waste or anything down our storm sewers. You do, however,
have to come first to the Civic Center and council aClually needs
to discuss this as well. It is a program. I would like to pass
these out to our councilors. This is purely an educalional
program but it also helps the city in terms of keeping
ul1lvanted material out of the storm sewers. A storm sewer
labeling program. And finally. not I1nally, but because also
because it is spring we have a situation with lawns and the
whole issue of lawn care. If you are allergic to lawn care
chemicals and which to be notil1ecl in advance of an application
being made or a Ic1wn care company has erroneously worked
on your lawn, under Iowa [<III' you may report it 10 the
Department of ;\griculture Pesticide Division for invesligation.
The number is 5 15-28J 8591. And you ask le)r ~'[r. Mark
[,owhaefer. Under Io\\'a Imv he musltclke investiWlIive action
to address your complaint. That Illllnber again is 515-28 I
8591 and they will investigate it for YOII, And l'inally I have
also had the joy this week of having pmple who are cily
employees. Either I have observed them in the caSl' of Ed
Moreno talking to the Northside Neighborhood Association
about our city watl'r. And I have also had someone come up
and tell me how much Ihey appreciated t he work of On1cer
Frank Cummings who dealt with an automobile accident in
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which an elderly person was involved. The care with which he
gave that person plus the person's l~llllily and follolV up care
was very Illuch appreciated by the l~lIl1ily. And 1 think we
need tn recognize these every once in a while, Thalis it.
McW 1. if I don't have anything to say. [do want tn take this
opportunity with Randy's comlllents. I just \Vant to say thank
you, Handy. [would. in the 12 years t hat I have hecn here I
have had an opportunity to sit around this tabie with a lot of
pcople and you havc truly been a dedicated committed
member of this body. And you have selved your constituents
in this community very well. Thank you very much.
Courtney / Well those were pretty much the comments that I was
going to make. These always catch you a little short. I think it
is only thc second timc that [ have had this happen as I sat
here. I think that I can relate to what you are talking about
with the clients and so on and fortunately illY market day ends
at 3:30 or 3:00 in the af'ternoon and I know that with law
practices it doesn't end with tIle closing of the Nell' York Stock
E;\change. With your new business now I can certainly
undcrstand. On behalf of the rest of the council too I just thank
you for the service and wish you the best in both endeavors.
Larson/ Thank you.
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Courtney/ Moved by AJllbr, ~lmllded by Homll'. Di~ctls~ioll.
Hormv/ I would only ask that the traffic engineer some how get the
inforlllalion about this pmgmm to the schools so lhatthe safely
patrols and the safely committees in the individual schools
know how to reach the teachers, staff and ~tudents on this
program.
Courtney/ Any further discussion.
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City of Iowa City
MEMORANDUM
DATE: April 9. 1993
TO: City Council
FROM: City Manager
RE: Work Session Agendas and Meeting Schedule
Apri 1 12, 1993 Monday
6:30 . 8:30 P.M. City Council Work Session. Council Chambers
6:30 P.M. . Review zoning matters
7:00 P.M. . Traffic Engineering Issues
7:20 P.M. Recommendations on CD8G Funding
7:50 P.M. . Parking Update
8:05 P.M. . City/County Joint Meeting Agenda
8:15 P.M. Council agenda, Council time, Council committee reports
8:25 P.M. . Consider appointments to the Mayor's Youth Employment
80ard and Historic Preservation Commission
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J Apri 1 13 , 1993 Tuesday
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Capital Projects
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Agenda pending
April 27 , 1993 Tuesday
7:30 P.M. . Regular Council Meeting - Council Chambers
PEND I NG LI ST
Appointments to the Riverfront and Natural Areas Commission and Broadband
Telecommunications Commission. April 27, 1993
Appointments to the Parks and Recreation Commission, Riverfront and Natural
Areas Commission, and 80ard of Library Trustees. May 11, 1993
Appointment to Historic Preservation Commission - May 25, 1993
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