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IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL
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REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 14,1993
7:30 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CIVIC CENTER
410 EAST WASHINGTON
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AGENDA ~
IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL ~
REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. SEPTEMBER 14, 1993 ~
7:30 P.M. ~
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ITEM NO.1. CALL TO ORDER.
ROLL CALL.
ITEM NO.2. SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS
a. Presentation of Certificate of Commendation to Officer David A. Droll.
ITEM NO.3. MAYOR'S PROCLAMATION
a. Trick or Treat Night- Sunday, October 31, 1993, from dusk until 8:30 P.M.
ITEM NO.4. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED OR
AMENDED.
a. Consider approval of Olllclal Council actions of the regular meeting of August
31,1993, as published, subject to corrections, as recommended by the City
Clerk.
b. Minutes of Boards and Commissions.
(1) Mayor's Youth Employment Board meeting of JUly 28, 1993.
(2) Board of Adjustment meeting of August 11, 1993.
(3) Parks and Recreation Commission meeting of August 11, 1993.
(4) Library Board meeting of August 26, 1993.
(5) Broadband Telecommunications Commission meeting of July 21, 1993.
(6) Planning and Zoning Commission meeting of September 2, 1993.
(7) Housing Commission meeting of July 13, 1993.
j8~ Rlverlronland Natural Areas Commission meeting of August 18,1993.
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c. P rmll Motions 6YI
(1) Consider a motion approving a Class 'C' Baer Permll for Clarissa T.
Wall, dba Wall's Food Mkt, 1603 Muscatlne Ava. (Renewal)
(2) Consider a motion approving a Class 'C' Beer Permit for T&M Mini
Mart, Ltd., dba T&M Mini Mart, 2601 Hwy 6 East (Renewal)
(3) Consider a motion approving a Special Class 'C' Uquor Ucense for
Masala, Inc., dba Masala, 9 S. DUbuque St (New)
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Courtney/Special Presentation, Chief.
R. J. Wlnklehake/ Mr. Mayor and members of the council, It Is my
pleasure to bring some Information to you. As you know,
throughout the flooding all kinds of different things have
occurred. This particular one deals with officer DavId Droll.
Department accommodation...... Mayor, what I would like to do
Is present Officer Droll an accommodation that he has In front
of him is for the work he had done January 26 this past year.
That particular evening on the 26th of July a total of three
people were in the Iowa River. As you know It was flooded
throughout the summer and a number of publIc safety and
emergency services personnel responded to try to retrieve the
three people from the river. Ropes had been dropped at
various locations. They were unable to grab on to those ropes.
The last place that the public safety people were able to do
anything was the Burlington Street bridge by the dam. It was
very Imperative that we were able to get a hold of the people
there because once they went over the bridge I don't think, it
was too far over the dam, there would be much question that
they would have died. The Sheriff's Department had personnel
there, CoralvllIe Police Department, Coralvllle FIre Department,
the Public Safety Department from the University, they had
some people from their Physical Plant, Iowa City Fire
Department and the Iowa City Police Department. We were
told about 50 emergency services personnel. The Sheriff's
Department they put a boat In. It was Imperative at that time
to get to the people before they hit that dam. While that was
going on ropes were dropped. The three people that were in
the river were able to grab on to ropes. One of those people
were able to grab on to a life ring that was attached to the
rope. It was truly apparent that person was going to lose their
grip very quickly. Volunteers were requested and Officer Droll
Immediately volunteered and went over the sIde of the brIdge,
attached to a rope, went down, not once but twice. The
Important part of all of this Is the fact that we had over 50
people there and when the call came out for someone to go
over that bridge, Officer Droll Immediately responded and was
lowered not once but twice. The second time he was able to get
to the girl and pull her back to the abutment. The other
emergency servIces personnel that were there from the other
agencies were then able to retrieve them from the river. We
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were very fortunate at that time that we were able to get
everybody out without losing anybody. We were not only In
danger of losing the three people that were In the river but
Officer Droll was certainly endangered, the sheriffs deputy that
was In the boat. I might add the boat was In the river and the
engine couldn't run so we had the additional problems to treat
In that we also had to get the deputy out. We had a number of
officers that were on the side of the bridge at the edge of the
water with ropes to be able to retrieve these people....... In this
particular case, this particular officer did that. I am very
pleased to present Officer Droll with the Department
Accommodation.
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Courtney/Trick or Treat Night - Sunday, October 31, 1993, from dusk
until 8:30 P.M.
Nov/ We have to remind people that is the day the clocks are set
back so the distance between dusk and 8:30 Is a little bIt longer
than tonight.
Courtney/ Before we go on it Is twenty minutes before eight. There
Is twenty minutes left at the polls. If there Is anyone out there
watching that hasn't voted yet. Get up off the couch, go vote.
We have done everything Important that we are goIng to do
tonight. You are not going to miss a thing. it Is much more
Important that you go to. and vote In the school board election
If you forgot. That Is for you, Barb.
Kubby/ For all of us, Darrel.
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City of Iowa City
MEMORANDUM
TO: Mayor and City Council
FROM: City Clerk
DATE: September 14, 1993
RE: Addition to Consent Calendar
4 b.(9) Minutes of Rules Committee meeting of September 13, 1993.
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Regular Council Maellng
Seplember 14, 1993
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ITEM NO.5. PLANNING AND ZONING MATTE~iS.
a. Public hearing on an ordinance to vacale a ten-foot wide walkway rlght-of-
way located along the southwest lot line of the 415 N. Seventh Avenue
property. (VAC93.0002) ~
Comment: At Its Augusl 19, 1993, meeting, the Planning and Zoning
Commission, by a vote of 4-0, recommended that the ten-foot wide public
walkway right-of-way located adjacent to the southwest lot line of Lol 21,
Windsor Heights, Fifth Addition, be vacated, subject to ratalnlng tha 20-foot
wide sanitary sewer and ullllty easement localed along the N. Sevenlh
Avenue frontaga. this recommendation Is consistent with the staff recom-
mendation Includad In the staff report daled August 19, 1993.
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b. Public hearing on an ordinance amending the Zoning Ordinance by changing
the use regulations of an approximate 1.65 acre tract of land locatad al702
S. Gllbart Street, Iowa City, Iowa, from CI.1, Intensive Commercial, to CC-2,
Community Commercial. (REZ93-0009) ~ r~
Comment: At Its August 19, 1993, meeting by a vote of 4-0, the Planning
and Zoning Commission recommended approval of an amendment to the
Zoning Ordinance by changing the use regulations for property located at
702 S. Gilbert Streatfrom CI.l to CC-2. The Commission's recommendation
Is consistent with the staff recommendation Included In the staff report dated
August 19,1993. In a lellardated Augu.t 25,1993, tile applicant requesled
expeditad consideration of this rezoning.
Action: .bi?/ f.)
c. Public hearing on an ordinance amending lhe conditional zoning agreement
for an approximate 240 acre lracl, known as Windsor Ridge, located east 01
Scali Park, south of Lower West Branch Road and north of Amarlcan Legion
Road. (REZ92-0013)
Commenl: At Its August 19, 1993, meeting, the Planning and Zoning
Commission, by a vole of 4-0, recommanded approval of an amendmanl of
the conditional zoning agreement thai accompanied tha March 30, 1993,
rezoning of Windsor Ridge from County RS to City RS-5. The purpose of the
amandmentls to clarify tha procedures for conveyance of approximately 13
acres 01 land for a school site to lhe Iowa City Community School District.
The recommended amendment differs slightly from what staff originally
proposed, but Is consistent with the Inlended clarification slaff fell was
warranled.
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Regular Council Meatlng
September 14, 1993
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(4) Consider a motion approving an Ouldoor Service Area for Larken, Inc.,
dba Holiday Inn, Iowa City, 210 S. Dubuque St. (Renawal)
d. Motions
Consider a motion 10 approve dlsbursemanls In lhe amount of $6,714,243.34
for the period of August 1 to August 31, 1993, as recommended by the
Finance Director subject to audit.
e. Resolutions
Q3.z.f'1, (1) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN , i
AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST THE RELEASE OF A FINANe.. ; ,
ING STATEMENT (UCC2 FORM) FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 416 i, ~
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secure the appliance to the real estate. This Is dona by recording the I~
financing statement (Uniform Commercial Code - UCC2 Form). This I'
remaining financing stalement can now also be relaased since all liens ,', . !'
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have been paid off and released al the Augusl3, 1993 Council meeting. " I;
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(2) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING APPLICATION ON i: ,
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AMENDED, FOR TRANSIT OPERATING ASSISTANCE FUNDING I', I
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Comment: JCCOG Is preparing lhe annual Federal Transit Admlnlstra- i; ,I
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tlon Section 9 application on behalf of Iowa City Transit Funding In the 'f'
amounl of $260,168 Is being requested for FY94 transit operations.
f. Correspondence.
(1) Leller from Kennllh and Alfreda Gallln regarding HUD's program for the
conversion of public housing to prlvala ownarshlp.
(2) Leller from Neighborhood Canters of Johnson County requesting
Council's support for combaWng gang activities In tha Iowa City area.
(3) Leller from Eleanor McClelland regarding parking reslrlctlons at
Farmers' Market.
(4) Lellar from Batty and Deane McKray expressing appreciation for sarvlce
provided by city amployeas.
(5) Lellar from E. Lorenz regarding proposed changes 10 Lexington Street
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September 14, 1993
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(6) Lellers regarding the proposed Increase In parking ticket fees from:
(a) Calherlne Johnson
(b) R.J. Rech
(c) Martlyo S. Trumpp
g. Applications for City Plaza Use Permits.
(1) Application from the Kirkwood Community College to set up a table on
City Plaza during the period of Seplember 2 through 10, 1993, for the
purpose of dlstrfbutlng Information. (approved)
(2) Application from Fred Slocum for permission to sat up a table on City
Plaza during the parlod of September 7 through 10, 1993, for tha
purpose of soliciting signatures on a patlllon and offering free literature.
(approved)
h. Applications for Usa of Slreets and Public Grounds.
(1) Application from Eslher Retlsh for permission to close Penfro Drlva on
September 6, 1993, for a block party. (approved)
(2) Application from Veterans of Foralgn Wars 3949 for permission to offer
vateran poppies for donations on Iowa City streets on Seplember 3 and
4, 1993. (approved)
(3) Application from Sua Schuster for parmlsslon 10 close Eallng Drive for
a block party on Saptembar 6, 1993. (approved)
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Courtney/Open the p.h. on this Item.
John Hayek! I represent Vivian Stringer, the owner of the property
at 415 N. 7th Avenue, who Is seeking the vacation and hopes to
be able to purchase the walkway. I think you had a full report
on this. I really don't have anything to say unless there are
any specific questions.
Courtney/ We didn't have many last night. Any other public
discussion on this Item.
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Courtney/ Open the p.h. on this item.
Mike Kennedy/ I am here on behalf of Kennedy Plaza and basically
what we are asking for In our application is the opportunity to
have a wider variety of businesses on the bottom floor of our
building at 702 South GlIbert Street which I think most people
would agree is an improvement over what was previously
there which was a giant blue lean to that housed Ford tractors.
We are simply asking for a rezoning to CC-2 to allow us to
accommodate tenants who would not otherwise be allowed
under the CI-l designation and we have had a lot of inquiries
from perspective tenants whom I think would be excellent
tenants who would really enjoy being in that type of a bullding.
We feel that the bulldlng is an enhancement to Iowa City in
general and we simply ask for the opportunity to offer this
building to a group of tenants who would not otherwise be
allowed to under the current zoning designation. If you have
any questions about the bullding or anything else I will be
happy to answer them or defer to the general contractor Mike
Hodge who is here.
Kubby/ Naomi had asked the question last night that I thought Is, I
don't know how important of one but it was an interesting one
to me. She asked why the zoning request wasn't made before
the bullding was built.
Kennedy/. The would simply be an oversight on the part of all of us.
We just made a mistake and didn't take it into account and
then we realized-
Kubby/ The speclflc uses. The differentiation in uses.
Kennedy/ Right. It was just Simply an oversight on our part and as
we got farther down the road we figured that we needed a CC-
2 designation In order to accommodate a number of tenants
who we felt would be interested In the space.
Horow/ I think what this has done is really sensitized council that
perhaps the staff and council should anticipate this zoning
realistically In that whole general area. It's-it gives a feeling
that you really hadn't thought It out In advance and that
council Is trying to correct something that you hadn't really
thought out well In advance. So, In a sense I am not
comfortable with It. In another sense I think It is good because
It is going 0 make me look harder at the next commercial
venture that Is put In to an area where there will be a potential
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for this residential commercial mixture. That Is a left handed
compllment If you want to take It that way.
Kubby/ Although the zoning that was there didn't come through us
because It was zoned appropriately so we didn't really get a
chance to look at It. We didn't get a chance to look at It to
anticipate that.
Ambr/ Mr. Kennedy, I have got to point out to you this councilor
appreciates your direct answer because when one Is involved
In a complex business venture you try every time to cross
every T and dot every I. I appreciate our straight forward
answer here tonight. You simply didn't think of It. And I know
that you wish you had. But I certainly don't hold that against
you. I think that Is an admiral trait.
Kennedy. Thanks.
Nov/ I agree I would have preferred that It would have been
thought out a head of time but It Is a nice looklng building and
probably will easily accommodate the klnds of businesses that
want to be In there. I think we may have to give people amore
specific outline of what the current zoning accommodates when
the building permit comes In. Some sort of a reminder that It Is
Ilmlted In some ways and maybe this kind of thing won't
happen.
Horow/ Or look for a general amendment to the compo plan.
Nov/ Or the zoning ordinance.
Horow/ Which will then force us to take another look at Gilbert
Street. It Is just-those all go together.
Nov/ And maybe we ought to have more areas of Gilbert Street
under the CC-2 jurisdiction. We just may have to think things
over.
Ambr/ When I think what Gilbert Street use to look Ilke I wish we
had some old photos to show the folks. You and other
developers have just made that absolutely the picturesque
street compared to what It was. If we had a slum In this
community that was It. I am just amazed every time I drive
South Gilbert Street.
Kennedy/ Thank you.
Courtney/ Any other publlc discussion on this Item.
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Courtney/Open the p.h. on this item.
George Matheson/ I am the current president of the Iowa City School
Board. I know most of you. I don't have to say that but it is a
formality that we need to go through. Before I get into my
prepared comments I would like to take the opportunity to
wish the best to our retiring council members. We appreciate
everything that you have done for us and we wish you the
best. It Is not retirement, I know, but good luck to you. I come
to you today together with Barb Grothe who is here who may
also have a few comments depending on how weill do here
tonight. But, In any case, she Is here and In terms of any
specific questions she or I wlll try to deal with those. Really
the purpose for being here Is three fold. One, we have a stake
In this, obviously and we think that, secondly, it Is good for us
to have a conversation about things that both of us have some
concerns for. So, to have a public dialogue like this Is very
fruitful. We found the same thing on the school board.
Secondly, I want to check some facts as we understand the
facts as to how we got to where we are and truthfully and very
honestly check our understanding of those facts. And thirdly, I
guess I would have just a few observations or maybe you
might call them suggestions. But first let me deal with the facts
as we see them and I am Interested In your feedback. One, as I
understand It we are dealing with an agreement tat was a
tentative agreement that was struck as of February 23, 1993.
That agreement was placed before us as a school board and we
agreed In principle to It and that Is the one, as I understand it,
that Is being modified or Is up for consideration to be modlfled.
In that provision was Included or In that agreement was
included a provision to donate 13 acres of land to the school
district to compensate the district for financial burden from the
development. In other words a donation of 13 acres with
basically no strings attached whereby If we chose to build a
school on that site It was our land or If we found out at some
future date that it was not the appropriate piece of land for
whatever circumstances that we still had the land that we
could then sell and take the money and buy another piece of
land. The third fact that I would, I guess as I understand
anyways, we understand that the district has little power In
this matter. We are more or less outsiders looking In and I
really want to emphasize that we, knowing this and
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understanding this, that we appreciate your taking or needs
into consideration. We truly want to work with you and we do
appreciate your consultations with us throughout this process.
I guess I would reiterate that you can be sure that the
development of 240 acres will most definitely have an impact
on the school system. On the elementary, junior high and high
school. And I think at the very minimum we anticipate having
to put a new elementary school in that area if this
development takes off he way everybody is anticipating.
Number five, in the past the cost of such needs has been spread
across the school district and I think this is the traditional way
that these improvements have been handled. For example,
with the most recent addition which we are all famillar with,
the Weber School on the west side, we bought a piece of land
and the money for that piece of land or the cost was spread
around the district, not only Iowa City but the other
municipalities represented by the school district. And finally
or the final fact that I guess I would toss out is that It is our
understanding that the city has been trying to shift some of the
funding for these improvements to the owners, developers, or
users in the form of a land donation or an impact fee. Those
are the summary of the facts as we understand them. I guess I
would stand corrected either where the facts are wrong or
whether our understanding is wrong. If there are, we can
always come back to those. At this point what I would like to
do is offer a few what I would call observations or suggestions,
maybe you might even say requests of you. First of all we
certainly believe that the issue of impact fees is entirely up to
you to decide as the polley makers of Iowa City. I really say
that very sincerely. I admired your willingness to venture Into
that arena, that area of consideration. It doesn't come without
controversy and I can't say anything other than I know that It
is a very difficult issue to deal with and I admire you for doing
that. But we recognize, again as I said before, the school
district is more or less on the outside looking in. It is your call
basically and we defer to that. Secondly, based on our research
and understanding of Impact fees we have serious questions as
to whether they will really become a reality. You are famillar I
think with the communication that John Kruse fOlwarded to the
PIZ Commission and In it he suggested or referred to some
research that he has done on impact fees. I think he suggested
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that he doesn't think that there are any laws or any ordinances
in the state of Iowa requiring impact fees or, and I think In
addition to that, he looked at other states and observed that
there were some questions and concerns and problems with
impact fees. I think his initial understanding and feeling was
questioning whether they would ever become a reality.
Thirdly, from the school district's point of view, we prefer the
original agreement of February 23 whereby 13 acres was
donated to the district for a school site or to defer the impact
costs on the school district should another site be more
preferabie-be found to be more preferable. I think this is oniy
common sense. If you look at it from our view point, and we
are partisans in this I guess, If you ask us would you prefer to
have 13 acres of land with no strings attached to use as you
might to put a school there or trade It for another piece of land,
most certainly we would say that that is our preference. We
would certainly. And the school board went on record as
approving, in principle, that agreement as of he 23rd. As you
look at us as partisans definitely that is what we would prefer.
If, however, you decide to pass the amended agreement what
we feel is that then site selection becomes crucial. We think
that the focus therefore should be on site selection and we
would like to be a major party to that part of the decision
maklng. So If I could summarize very quickly and as I say
Barb wlll grade me being the good school person that she is and
if she has anything that she would like to add I told her to feel
free to do so. But I would say in summary we admire you for
getting into this whole area of impact fees. We know it is
controversial and I can't say anything other than that.
Secondly, we would prefer the February 23 agreement. It is in
our best interest. Thirdly, if you adopt the amended
agreement then we would surely like to be a close participant
in which site Is selected. And I would say fourthly, and the
bottom line Is that if the worst happens and we are given 13
acres of land by way of the amended agreement and the worst
happens and that Is we decide that Is not the site where we
want to build because circumstances dictate that that Is not the
best site and we lose the land. We don't get any Impact fees.
Then we are Just back to where we are right now. We are at
the poInt traditionally the way we have handled things and we
can live wIth that. So we thank you very much. We know that
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consultations have been going on. You have been meeting
through your representatives with the school district. We are
pleased. We have been kept abreast of all of he deliberations
and we are happy you have Included us In the discussions and
anything that I can respond to I would be happy to. Of If I
can't answer It I will ask Barb to.
Courtney/ I think to some extent, George and I had a real long
conversation the other day and kind of went through the circle
that we are in. I think, to some extent, It Is sort of a the old
catch 22 circle that we are In. The council has been working
towards this point for several years to start extracting some
help for the school district, the park system, and all that from
new developers and on one hand we have the developer out
here who would like to have those sort of amenities close to
their development because It helps them sell their lots. I don't
think there Is a secret about that. On the other hand we have
got the district who has had not the best batting average In
getting bond Issues passed and It Is very difficult to get those
passed. The city didn't get theirs passed either and if we can
avoid those I think that that Is the best way to approach It.
However you folks are the ones that need to decide where the
site Is going to be. You know demographics and students and all
of that and we have no Idea on that. We take a best guess and
say here Is a big plot of land out here. There are going to be a
whole bunch of houses and assume that there are going to be a
few kids move In there. It looks like a logical area for a school
but we could be dead wrong on that. So that gets us Into a
problem of saying we are trying to pick your site for you which
we are not. And then we come around to you, as you say, you
are kind of left out here In the open on It. So, there is really no
way to get around this thing. If we go to the developers and
say that they mayor may not have a school there then they
become less willing to pony up the land for a school because it
makes their development a little less attractive and they may
not be able to sell them for quite so much and they may also
have to go back to the people they may have told that there Is
going to be a school there and tell them now there Is not going
to be a school there. So It all keeps going In a circle.
Matheson/Darrel, I don't lose my thought on the last-no developer
and the school district will go on record as not committing Itself
absolutely to any piece of land and no developer-I happen to
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be familiar with real estate buslness-a developer or Realtor,
who tells anybody that that vacant piece of land as we are
looking at It Is going to have a school, should be doing that. And
I counsel the school district that we need to shout It from the
highest buildings.
Courtney/ But they don't have to come rIght out and tell them that.
It gets enough publicity through things like this and through
the newspaper reports that here is bIg subdivIsion and land set
aside for a school and all of that and we have all talked about
how things become facts through not even Realtors or lawyers
and anybody else telling them that It Is there. It becomes a
fact anyway.
Matheson/ We have no control over that, obviously, and they have
their own consciousness to deal with.
Courtney/But It Is stili a problem.
Nov/ George, It is not over sold. They may say potential school site.
Not everybody hears the word potential.
Matheson/ It is a two way responsibility and everybody has their
own consciousness to deal with. I think there are people out
there we don't ask enough questions. People who are In a
buying mode and who do not do enough research, ask enough
questions and, you know, at some point along the way these
folks have a responsibility to make a decision based on being
informed. There Is a two way responsibility. But I just want to
jump In there because the district will not go on record. It
would be irresponsible, I would think, for us to do that and as I
say-
Courtney/ For one thing, right now you couldn't say whether It was
going to be an elementary or junior high or high school. Even if
you could say there Is going to be a school. We don't expect
that and ali I am trying to point out Is kind of a little bit of a
dilemma that we end up being here. I think your assessment
on the Impact fees Is pretty close. We know what taxes that we
can pass in this state along to the people. The sales tax and
that sort of thing. A school Impact tax Is not one of them. If
there was a way for us to raise flat cash for this thing-for this
purpose for you I think, to me, that would be the best way to
dolt.
Matheson/ You made reference to and I think you were concurring
with me that the site selection is Important and that you would
want us to playa major role In that. We are willing to. I mean
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we really would like to participate closely in that and
recognizing that these are projections, estimates, and so forth.
But you know some land Is better than others In terms of-for
example, my understanding is and I don't know that we need
to get Into a great amount of detall. But one of these pieces of
land has a creek running through It which may not be the best
for chlldren In terms of the safest best possible situation. So
those are some of the things that I think we can add some
expertise In terms of site selection.
Horow/ George, I appreciate your four observations but as you
summed them up I came up with a fifth one and that is that
this Isn't the last subdivision that this area is going to see and it
seems the potential or the next time this happens will be that
the school board and the council works even closer from the
very very beginning so that both parties know what is
possible and what Is desired. Certainly then the developers will
be on notice as looking at this as almost an automatic thing.
Kubby / As long as there Is a zoning change that needs to take place.
That Is the only leverage at this point that we have to
negotiate.
Horow/ Yeah but up until this point this hasn't even been-we have
never really talked about this and this Is what I would lIke to
see us-
Courtney/This Is just the second time that we have done this. The
Grantwood one was easy. You already had a school there and
all you had to do Is say we want some land next door. That one
was real easy. This one Is more difficult and I think we are all
In our learning curve here.
Matheson/ As I thought through this It strikes me that with respect
to donating land, Impact fees, and so forth you are going to find
reasonable people on both sides over that Issue and we have to
find a compromise or some way of working these things out
because I think there are reasonable people on both sides of
the Issue.
Ambr/ In your long range planning have you anticipated this kind of
development In this area of our school district or did this
happen too quickly In view of your last study that you have
done on your demographics.
Matheson/ I'll give you my opinion and I will Invite Barb to add her
opinion. I think It Is safe to say that throughout the school
district things have been happening so rapidly that I would say
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that we try to do the best job we can In terms of projections
but I would ask you folks aren't there some things that have
taken place recently that you didn't anticipate were going to
take place two years ago.
Kubby/ Five annexations In the past two years.
Matheson/ So certainly I think that would be my answer. You
probably are In the same position that we are. It Is tough to
project when things are happening so rapidly.
Kubby/ I guess I want to go back to what you stated as a fact. And
as an Individual council member I may end up thinking that
what you understood to be the agreement may have been the
best way to go. But that Is not how I understood the
agreement. I did understand the agreement to be that there
were some flexibility on where the site would be but It would
be a school site and I don't remember any conversation about
what If the school district decides some of these options aren't
the best site. I guess It would be Important for me to know
what other council members or what we collectively
understood the agreement that we voted on to be. And also to
ask Karin what PlZ's understanding of the wording of the
agreement.
Matheson/Can I respond. I have not really-I guess I really don't
want-that Is your call. What you decide In terms of how the
flnal agreement Is going to end up, whether It Is a donated
piece of land or whether we have a certain option on It so to
speak. I think that Is your call. I think that the original
agreement gave us 13 acres of land for a school site and If we
decided at some future time that this was the wrong site that
we had that land and we could sell it and take the money and
buy another piece of land. I am not trying to push you on that.
I am just saying that was my understanding.
Kubby/ For me, when we are talking about these are the facts, It Is
Important to clarify what people's understanding Is of that.
Matheson/ Are you saying that I am Incorrect.
Kubby/ We never discussed it past the point of there Is a couple of
laces the school could be and it will be In one of them. We
never, In our thinking, got past that to maybe one of these
possibilities Isn't going 0 be approprIate and that comes from
dealing with different kinds of Issues and that Is why, agaIn,
this communication and working together Is so Important.
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Courtney/ I think I went into this thing pretty naive. What I heard
as we discussed It and what I saw as I read it was If the school
needs a place to be built then here it Is otherwise It kind of
reverts back and it dIdn't really say one way or the other In
the zoning agreement. I didn't think it was, as I went back to
it, I didn't think It was clear. And until It was brought up what
happens If they don't build one and here Is our subdivision and
now there Is no school here, then whose land Is it. Well, I don't
know.
Matheson/ My observation Is that you are well beyond that. Frankly
I think that Is history.
Courtney/ Next time it will be done a little differentiy. We have to
deal with thIs one right now.
Nov/ I think most of us agreed with that. We all thought that If the
school were built the land was donated. Here Is a piece of land
on which to build the school and we never though beyond that.
We didn't think about what this land Is going to do If there Isn't
a school. We just assumed that If there wasn't a school there
wasn't a donation. It wasn't In writing. It wasn't clear. It was
just a matter of Interpretation.
Ambr/ I Interpreted it, George, If the opportunity knocks at the door
you had better open It. We are talklng around this issue like
the piece of land Is being donated at no sacrifice to the
developer. I think ail of us knows what an acre of land goes
for, undeveloped land. I think it Is just a magnanimous gesture
even though there Is a benefit to the developer also to have a
school In or around that development. So I think If a building
Isn't built there for 12 years I'd say the district and we as tax
payers have missed an opportunity for whatever reason.
Matheson/ Bill, I guess as I think this through In preparing I really
do mean I think that is history. Whatever the understandings
were that Is In the past. It seems to me you are about ready to
adopt the amended resolution and my focus or my Intent was
to say then I think we really need to focus on site selection. I
agree with you. I think reasonable people are on both sides of
these Issues and I don't want to get Into the controversy of
whether we should have 13 acres with no strings attached. I
am just saying that our understanding was and If you ask us
which we would prefer, sure we would prefer 13 acres with no
strings attached. That is pure logic.
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Kubby/ You laid out some facts and you said that you wanted
feedback and I think that point was needed to be clarified and
named.
Matheson/ I am not here to brJng pressure on you folks. You got
enough If It.
Ambr/ I really appreciate your presence here tonight, Mr. PresIdent,
because I think It has c1arlfied a number of things In all of our
minds. Just your summation alone was good.
Nov / You have pretty well the kind of thing that we have accepted
that we need an agreement of some sort with some kind of
time limit, with some kind of site selection on It. Now based on
the fact that we probably are going to adopt that kind of
agreement, do you have preferences 0 the time limit as well as
on the site selection.
Matheson/ I think 30 years would be fine with us.
Courtney/ Then It becomes a historic site and we won't be able to
build anything on It.
Matheson/ There Is an element of seriousness In there because I was
talking to another board member last night about his and I
mentioned the 12 year and she said, you know, what If this
development doesn't develop quite as rapidly as we all think
that It will. What If It takes 20 years. What If there Is no need
to put a school out there within 12 years. Time may be a little
more crucial than that. I do say that somewhat seriously that I
don't know what the projectlons-I think the projections are
optimistic but I would toss that out to you. Maybe 12 years
Isn't quite enough time. Again, that Is something you need to-
Nov/ That was one of my concerns that maybe a building permit
within 12 years would mean that a school Is actually
constructed In 13 years. And maybe Is we were talking about
a 15 year time span at some point you would not necessarily
have to have It constructed with 13 years. Can we go back to
15.
Courtney/ Where did 12 come from, Karin. Is that a negotiated
figure with the developer.
Franklln/ We started out with 15 and then figuring that It takes
about three years for something to get built from the time you
got a building permit. So up to 12 years you would have the
opportunity to get a building permit and then It would take a
couple of years to build It.
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Nov/ I am questioning that three year time. Lets have some real
experience. How long Is It going to be from the time the
building permit Is Issued to the time the Weber School is
finished.
Franklln/ The discussion started out with the school district deciding
to build a school. Deciding was such an ambiguous term that as
we went through the discussions of this It came down to a
building permit and whether it is 12 years, 13,14,15, I mean
this is all something that you folks can decide.
Matheson/ Before I lose it, I don't mean literally lose it-lose my
thought, I really want to make sure that I leave the Impression
that we are very grateful to have the opportunity to have 13
acres of land and perhaps, you know, at no cost to the district.
We really do appreciate that and that is, I guess, the theme
that I want to leave here and that I wanted to bring to you.
We are happy about that and I was just trying to respond to
some of the other understandings or facts or misconceptions.
Courtney/ As George and I talked the other day I mentioned I am
still a little bit distressed by this whole thing because 12 years
from now If the building permit Is there and they have got the
land that stili doesn't allow them to build a building on the
land. They stili have to pass a bond issue to build a building.
And If the bond Issues fall they are still in the same position.
That Is why the last two or three years we have got 0 figure
out some way to raise cash for these things because then we
don't have to worry about the bulldlng either.
Pigott! In this letter that was In our packet from the attorney to the
school district In one paragraph it says we believe that It would
be appropriate to have some of the funding coming from the
owners of the newly annexed property by way of the property
donation or Impact fee. The next paragraph talks
pessimistically about the opportunity to enact some sort of
thing. I just wanted whether it is possible to think about that
and I don't know whether council has had extensive
discussions.
Courtney/ Council hasn't. The city manager and the mayor have
been talking about it for a year and a half.
Pigott/ And whether or not that you folks have opinions on it as well
that might be Included in any discussions about that would be
helpful to me.
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Horow/ This certainly has occurred In literature. The N. Y. Times has
had articles on this also. It seems that at this point we all need
to be a little more educated on the subject. Both your staff and
your board and certainly this council. I mean I have read them
but I certainly have not Internalized them. I have as much
skepticism as you do. But I also think that we do have to try to
build up our tolls because times are changing. We have looked
through the whole thing through one set of glasses. I think it is
time to start looking In different ways. And what I would hope
to be Is that both boards would get up to snuff at the same
level so that we would at least share the expenses of a staff
person to honcho this thing. because It Isn't going to be cheap.
I mean you are going to have to spend some money to make .
some money.
Matheson/ I agree. I think we need to be more aware and we need
to work closely. It seems to me, If I could, that Impact fees go
well beyond the school district and so It seems to me that you
are going to have more of a stake In deciding on how this Is
going to unfold then we are. There are other Improvements
and services that you will thinking about with respect to new
developments over above school districts that may be will be
coming before the schools that will be in play. While I don't
disagree with you I thlnk-
Courtney/ Well we have been successful in figuring out a way to do
It with sewers. We have worked our way around It and we
have been fairly successful In figuring out how to take care of
some of the park system's needs. But that Is easy for us
because It is our sewer and It is our parks and we know what
we want to cio with them. It Is not as easy to deal with the
schools which I think Is the next vital piece of having a big
subdivision some place. It Is not as easy to deal with teat
because we are not going to make the ultimate decision on
where It Is going to be so we are just kind of guessing.
Kubby/ And that Is why
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Kubby/ collaborating together. Even though It Is officially not your
Jurisdiction to say come on In we need help, we need your
expertise, we are going to be affected, you are going to be
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affected, and this Is an example of where we need that
collaboration.
Horow/ I think it helps the citIzens realize that we really want t
work together and reduce duplicate efforts.
Matheson/ That would be my second theme I guess. The first being
we really appreciate the opportunity at 13 acres and we hope
that we will be able to take advantage of that. And secondly,
we appreciate being Invited in to the process and helping to
make a selection. We're ready. We stand ready to discharge
our responsibilities.
Horow/ Once we have got you George, we are not going to let go of
you.
Nov/ I assume that you have read the ordinance.
Matheson/ yes.
NQv/ And It does say location shall be negotiated wIth the city and
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the school board.
Matheson/ Yes.
Horow/ Then that Is-we look forward to what you come up with.
Matheson/ Might I ask Barb-
Kubby/ I have a question for Ann. I don't know there wlll be a
ready answer but- Darrel had Just said that school Impact fees
are not part of what the state allows us to do. Is that so.
Ann Burnslde/ I am going to have to refer that one to Linda. I
haven't looked Into the Impact fee area at all.
Courtney/ Steve has researched that.
Atkins/ The way I understand Impact fees and we did some general
research with bond counsel, Is that under the Iowa Constitution
you cannot levy a tax. Only those that you are speclflcally
authorized to do through the state legislature. We use fees all
of the time. Simply go through our list of revenues and you are
familiar with the fees. What we are able to do and It will have
to get a more detailed legal opInion Is that I understand that
you can. In fact, put together a schedule of fees If In fact that
fee Is used for the specific purpose as Identified. You know,
that whole line of thinking. That can be done. It Is a very
common practice In Illinois. That, when a developer comes In
with a subdivision, often times It Is simply a matter of how
many acres do you have and the fee Is so many dollars per
acre, the moneys are then transferred to some sort of an
account usually help by the municipality and that creates the
cash that you were talking about Darre!. When It comes lime
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for the schools to consider they factor the development Issues
that have occurred and the municipality baslcaliy transfers the
money over to the schools. My understanding Is that we can do
these things under home rule.
Kubby/ How would a full impact fee be different from parking
Impact fee we have on south of Burlington area or the up and
coming open space ordinance that wUl either be land and/or
money.
Atkins/ By my way of thinking, Karen, I don't see a dramatic
difference. Right. I think those are other good examples that
fees are a reasonable means by which to raise cash for a
specific purpose to put In your general revenues and then It
becomes something a little different.
Courtney/ We came up with a solution and that was just tack
something onto the building permit for each and every
bedroom that was there. To build that bedroom you had to pay
some for a building permit. The wrinkle that comes In Is that
we raise the money and It Is coming form within the confines
of Iowa City. The school district encompasses CoralvUle, North
Liberty and IlIlIs and Johnson County. And you can envision
those that some people saying now Iowa City Is paying for
schools here and that frees up other money that we pay In our
school taxes that may be going to CoralvUle, North Liberty and
Hills. Now If we could get everyone to put the same building
permit fee on all four towns and the county then It would
become fair and equitable. My assessment of the possiblIlty of
that is pretty slim to get everyone to do all the same thing. But
It may be worth a shot.
Kubby/ But could those moneys be deposited for schools that would
serve Iowa City residents. Are there other ways of dealing
with that concern besides saying all four municipalities and the
county has to do It and they wUl never do it, therefore, we can't
do this.
Courtney/, Haven't come up with one.
Atklns/ I think-
Novl There Is no way you can do that because children are bussed
Into Iowa City Schools from other municipalities and you don't
want to tell them-
Atkins/ What you would have to do It arrive-follow up on what
Karen was saying, you would have to do Is arrive at some
system or formula whereby moneys raised-If for example the
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other community chose not to participate that In fact the
moneys that are raised by your legislative actions are
specifically intended to serve the needs of the students
generated from within the corporate limits of the city and I
suspect there are ways we can do that by demographics and
the other thing is that-and you are right any policies on fees I
think needs to be universal in the sense of meeting the needs
of the district. But also so should land dedication. I mean If
you chose that option. I mean, quite frankly, we are all aware
of significant annexations that Coralville recently undertook.
Whether they have designated land for school purposes, clearly
they are going to have large residential development going on
out there. They are going to have the same needs. It Is not
easily resolved.
Matheson! This does not get easy and It Is complicated because as
you talk, Steve, the thought that occurs to me or when you
start talking about setting aside money by Iowa City for Iowa
City kids the first thought that occurred to me Is we as a school
district have a responsibility to maintain some equity across
the district and so as soon as you start pouring money Into
Lemme School or to City High School what we do we say about
Coralville Central and the Kirkwood School and If the disparity
grows because that money Is being poured In. It Is an Issue
that jumps out at me.
Atkins! And I think that that Is pertinent but also the city bears the
capitol cost. For example, you about to spend $3 million
upgrading a road. Clearly all the students at Weber are not
going to be city reslden ts. We still bear that capital cost. There
has to be some way that we can figure that out. I encourage
way that If you can find a way to create the cash and clearly
earmark it for the purposes of schools I have got to believe
that the schools and cIty will come together some way to make
sure that it Is used productively.
Kubby! I guess for me the process that at some point we need to
have a discussion and may be here we have been talking about
details of possibilities which maybe Isn't the Issue at hand. But
to decide that we hold the value of wanting to have people who
make a living from development that create an Impact. Share
some of those responsibilities fiscally or landwlse which ends
up being fiscally. And then we need to do some research. Go
back to the ordinances that John Kruse has looked at and do
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some follow-say what are the weaknesses In those ordinances
and what are some model things In the city. And that Is
another thing the city and the school district can collaborate by
doing Joint research and discussing what wlll functionally work
and take care some of the concerns that we both have. So I
guess I would like to have that discussion.
Horow/ I am not clear on what you just said because-
Kubby/ I think we have to agree on what we want before we talk
about details.
Horow/ I don't have any problems with this but I cannot Imagine
that there Is a way of having, If I understood you correctly, of
having the developer and only the developer pay for having
created a development. There is no way of doing that.
Kubby/ I wasn't Implying that It is their business whether they pass
that on or how-I don't know that we have the legal ability to
say that you can't. I did not mean to Imply that in one
direction or another.
Ambr/ With that being said and all of the discussion of fees I am
sure you know because of your profession that the average cost
of a dwelling In the state of California Is $340,000 compared to
our $120,000. Of that $340,000, $31,000 Is attributed to fees.
Keep talking about low cost housing. So I would just like to
throw that out for everybody to consider when the discussion
comes up.
Kubby/Do we need to go back to-If we should decide that we want to
change the time frame do we need to continue the p.h. Is that
a signit1cant enough change. Because I might want to continue
that discussion about that. Would we need to continue.
Burnslde/ If you are going to change the agreement.
Kubby/ Change the time frame.
Burnslde/ Yes, I think so.
Franklln/ Yes, you would need to because the developer has to sign
the agreement before the p.h. closes and he may want to
discuss it with you.
Kubby/ I guess I would like to hear some feedback about the
flexibility of that number.
Courtney/ Are we running Into some time critical things for the
developer here.
Franklln/ No.
Kubby/ Are you Interested In opening that discussion up.
I would like to continue the p.h
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lJ.&v/ I would like to second that.
Ambr/ I don't care to continue it.
Courtney/ I guess I am happy with the time frame that is there.
This thing Is either going to work or it Isn't going to work and
adding one year to It is probably not going to make a whole lot
of difference.
Nov / I was suggesting that we add a little longer than that. Make It
15 years instead of 12 which is where we started out.
Plgott/ I would be wllling to talk about It.
Horow/ I would like to at least have the developer and the staff and
the school work out something that Is realistic among all three.
I don't want to tell them the number of years.
Courtney/ My understanding is that they have already gone through
that and this is what they came up with. The staff and the
school-no, the staff and the developer.
Kubby / If there Is a majority of council that wants to negotiate that
again.
Nov/ I am sorry, I didn't understand. Was the school Involved.
Courtney/ No.
Horow/That is what I mean. I would like to see whether we could
get the staff and the school and the developer In agreement
with this.
Courtney/We need a referee. Karin, you are it.
Franklln/ The discussions on the years was primarIly on the staff
and the developer. The school district was apprised of all of
these discussions as they were going on and obviously the
school district would like a longer period of time. As George
stated, 30 years. I don't know that any further discussions
between those three parties is going to make a big difference.
Horow/ Except the developer just said that he was willing to continue
the p.h. for the purpose of changing the number of years. At
least that Is the way I understood that.
Lowell Swartz/Of Windsor Ridge. I think the distinction between 13
years, 15 years, 10 years, came about as a result of when I
worked with the staff In modifying the wording of this
modification. I think their wording called for completion of
construction within 15 years. I discussed at some length with
Karin and members of her staff-Marcia Borman and also John
Kruse, representative of the school district-and between the
three of us we decided that some event more clearly
Identifiable In time might be the applying for the building
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permit. The construction of 15 years is a very nebulous
number. Applying for a permit would be something that would
follow the bond issues and something like that. We just kind of
put that on the 12 time frame.
Kubby/ Are you willing to open up discussions again for changing
that time from 12, 13, 14, or 15 years In terms of the building.
Swartz/ It seems to me that If Weber gets built In a year and a half
or two years or something like that-not too far off from what I
am projecting here.
Courtney/What he has just said that the school, by legal counsel, was
involved In some of this negotiating process.
Swartz/ That Is correct.
Kubby/ That is not what I am asking. I am asking-
Courtney/ I understand but we are gettlng-
Horow/ I withdraw my support on this. I think we are micro-
managing. They have already gone through an agreement on
this whole thing. Let's let them stick with It. Three is nothing.
The school would really like 30 and I agree with them. I think
that Is probably what they would really use is 25. This Is a
case of a polley board trying to come down to a minute
number.
Kubby/ I am not asking for a number. I am asking Is he open to
discussing It and I am not Interested in discussing the details.
But if there is a majority on council that wants to open up the
discussion to lengthen the time I am asking how he feels about
that.
Horow/ I withdraw my support on this.
Courtney/ I don't think we have got four.
Plgott/ I am still supportive.
Nov/ I am.
Kubby/ It is just to continue the p.h.
McD/ I can go with what has been proposed. Again, I don't think
another year or two is going to make that much difference. I
you were talking about long term I think there might be more
of a reason to open it up at that time. I don't-
Courtney/ Not interested in 30 years, Lowell.
Swartz/ I am just thinking that there might be room for a few years
but not 15 or 20. My original understanding was construction
would be completed in 15 years. And I am just modifying It to
make an event that Is more clearly identifiable in time.
Courtney/ Don't have four people to do this. Let's move on.
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Kubby/ John, would you vote to continue the p.h. or not.
McD/ No. I said I can live with what has been proposed. I don't
think another year or two Is going to make-
Kubby/ I am sorry, that is not what I heard.
Courtney/ Any other public discussion on this Item.
Swartz/ I don't think I have any particular comments other than to
address our view that was pointed out In the letter that I
submitted to Karin Franklin. I think It was Included In your
packet. I think that pretty well summarizes Windsor Ridges
position on the meaning of the original agreement and the
negotiations that we have had to reach this modification. We
Intend to work fully with the city and the school district to
select a site that Is acceptable to all three of us. I don't have
nay other comments other than-
Courtney/ Where did the discussions of different sites. Was that
Initiated In P/Z. I looked at the maps and I thought It had
already pretty much been set- as to the general area. We have
moved a few feet here and there.
Swartz/ tentatively we have set within the area that has been
preliminary platted called . But we stlll have the
whole area north of Court Street that hasn't been platted to
look at a potential school site. And as I understand.
Courtney / I Just wondered where this thing of moving It down to the
creek came from.
Swartz.! I don't know.
Courtney/ That wasn't your idea.
Swartz/ It was either ours or I don't know whose.
Courtney / I understand the concerns of building an elementary
school on the creek.
Swartz/ I have no idea of who likes what. We are wil1lng to work
with the city and school dlstrlct-
Courtney/ Okay. That is all we need to hear, I guess. Go ahead.
Franklln/ Do you want to get Into this discussion.
Courtney/Probably not.
Kubby/ Pretty Irrelevant.
Courtney/ The revised agreement says city and school wlll work
together In selecting the site and so we wlll do that.
Burnslde/ Could I ask a question while these folks are stlll here. The
copy that Is In our packet Is not a signed agreement. Is there a
signed agreement yet.
Franklln/ (can't hear)
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Kubby/ I move to continue the p.h.
Pigott! I second it.
Kubby/ Thank you, Anne.
Burnside/ I was assuming initially-
Courtney/ What are we doing here.
Burnslde/ I was assuming that the copy In the packet was just an
extra Xerox copy and it didn't surprise me that there were no
signatures but Marian reviewed the originals and we don't
have a signed agreement.
Courtney/ Who needs to sign it.
Burnslde/ Mr. Swartz, Mr. Watts, and the City.
Courtney/ We only have one of them here so we need to continue it.
Burnside/ That is the way it looks to me.
Courtney/ Gary is not here so it doesn't make any difference.
Matheson/ Thank you very very much. I appreciate the opportunity
to appear.
Courtney/ You do need Mr. Watts on there too, Anne?
Burnslde/ Yes. There are signature lines for both and I assume that
they are the entities authorized by the-
Courtney/ It has been moved and seconded (Kubby/Pigott) to
continue the p.h. for two weeks.
Allin favor (ayes.
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Ragular Council Meatlng
Seplember 14, 1993
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d. Consider an ordinance vacating the alley localed west of Gilbert Slreet and
north of Kirkwood Avenue betwean 210 and 230 Kirkwood Avanue. (Passed
and adopted) (VAC93-0001) 't1l~ ~
Comment: At Its June 3, 1993, meatlng, by a vota of 6-0, the Planning and
Zoning Commission recommended that the alley located west of Gllbart
Strael and north of Kirkwood Avenue between 210 and 230 Kirkwood Avenue
be vacated with certain conditions. The Commission's recommendation Is
consistent with the staff recommendation. At the close of the Council's public
hearing on AuguSl3, 1993, the conditions of the vacation Includad, 1) closure
of the curbcut on the northwast comer of Kirkwood Avenue; 2) agreement to
a limit of no more than two curbculs on the north slda of Kirkwood Avenue
with redevelopmenl of the property; 3) establlshmant of a conservation
easement on Ralston Creek; and 4) retention of an aasemenl for U. S. West.
In a leller daled August 24, 1993, the applicant Increased his purchase offer
to $1,800.
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e. Consider a resolution vacating a portion of the approved plat of Rapl Creak
Ridge Subdivision, containing Lots 25, 26 and 27 and a portion of Running
Deer Woods Road, located east of Highway 1 North In Fringe Area 4.
(SUB93-0010)
Comment: Allis July 15, 1993, meeting, by a vote of 5-0, the Planning and
Zoning Commission recommandad approval of tha vacation of a portion of
tha approved plat of Rapid Creek Ridge Subdivision. No comments were
received at the Council's August 31, 1993 public hearing on the vacation of
the plat. Tha Commission's recommendation Is conslstenl wllh the staff
recommendation Included In the staff report dated July 15, 1993.
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f. Consider a resolution approving the preliminary and final plat of Rapid Creek
Ridge, Part Two, localed east of Highway 1 North In Fringe Area 4. (SUB93-
0010) (60-day limitation period: September 14, 1993.)
Comment: At Its July 15, 1993, meeting, by a vote of 5-0, the Planning and
Zoning Commission recommended approval of a preliminary and final pial for
Rapid Creek Ridge, Part Two. This plat covert the area vacated In Item e.
The Commission's recommendation Is Inconsistent wllh the staff recomman.
dation Included In the staff report dated July 15, 1993. Staff recommended
that the plat be approved, subject to lhe resolution of Issues related to the
60-foot wide roadway easement for Running Deer Woods Road.
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Courtney/ Moved by Ambr, seconded by Horow. DIscussion.
Kubby/ Karin, will you review this a little for me the 60 foot
easement.
Franklln/ The 60 foot roadway easement was to allow for the
integration of this development with the development
immediately to the east. It Is an option that the city required
with the original plat. It continues to be on the plat. The
practicality of Integration of developments In the county is
very difficult because all of the roads are privately owned
within the subdivisions. But it leaves us an option for the
future assuming that maybe we can work that out someday.
Being optimistic.
Kubby/ And this was not Included. The 60 foot r.o.W. Is not Included
in the new plat.
Franklln/ No. The 60 foot roadway easement Is stlllincluded In the
plat, yeah.
Kubby/ Okay.
Courtney/ Any other discussion.
Roll call-
The resolution is adopted.
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Seplember 14, 1993
Page 6
ITEM NO.6. PUBUC DISCUSSION
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ITEM NO.7. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 2.100 OF THE CODE OF
_~5- 35~~__ ORDINANCES OF IOWA CITY, BY REVISING THE MEMBERSHIP REQUIRE.
MENTS FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. (SECOND CONSIDERATION)
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Comment: The proposed amendment requires that all members of boards and
commissions shall be allglble electors of the City excepl as provided In the by-
laws of a board or commission. this amendment would bring the Rlverlront and
Natural Araas Commission's by-laws Into compliance with the Code and would
allow other commllleas to have mambers who are nol allglble alectors of the City.
Staff requests expedlled consideration of this Itam so that the remaining Daslgn
Review Commlllee vacancy may be adverUsad.
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2.5tITEM NO.8. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 74-48 BY
'13- ;~: CHANGING MEMBERSHIP REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DESIGN REVIEW
COMMITTEE FOR THE CITY OF IOWA CITY, IOWA AND APPROVING ITS
BY.LAWS,
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Commenl: The Council's Rules Commlllea wilf consldar this Ilem at Its meeting
of Septamber 13, 1993. Minutes from lhe Rules Commlllae meeting wiIHle htw. ~
distributed at Ihe-SeP~i.:, 1993-Councll meeting.
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ITEM NO.9. ANNOUNCEMENT OF VACANCIES
a. Previously Announced Vacancies.
(1) Planning and Zoning Commission - Once vacancy for an unaxplred term
ending May 1, 1997. (Casey Cook resigned.) This appointment will ba
made at the October 12, 1993, Council meeting. .
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~ II talked to the mayor today about a problem I had In that my
~~ car got towed away. And my car got towed from a legal spot
M" wIth the meter tickIng and I have a ticket here. Now there Is
either something wrong with the meter because I put a quarter
and a dime In. It was a full hour. I went to class, I came out of
class and my car was gone. The ticket here says 9:32 when I
put a quarter In maybe a minute or two before 9:30. My car
was then towed away to Coralville where I had to go get it.
When I called up towing company and talked to whoever It
was on the phone I was told that I would have to pay $200 to
get my car back which was about 1000% of the tickets that
were outstanding. This was the reason gIven for my car beIng
towed. I call that ridiculous. I called a number of people velY
angry. When I finally got there however I was asked to pay
$56. The whole situation as far as I am concerned is
extortionate. Now I can understand having to pay tickets on
time or what have you. That is fine. I didn't get around to It. I
had $20 outstandIng. To get a car towed and then to be asked
to pay $200 and then to show up and suddenly find out that It
was $56. What have you. All the way to Coralville Is
rIdiculous. Now, I don't know what the whole situation Is all
about and why I was told $200 first and $57. Maybe It was
somebody's Idea of a IlttIe joke. I don't think It was very
funny. And as far as I understand a car cannot be towed form
a legal spot when the meter Is stili ticking for any reason.
Courtneyl I have done some InvestIgation on this both with ParkIng
and Don Is In the back row here and with Legal. And do you
want to address the Item about towIng while the meter Is-
Number one the Parking Department says the meter had
expired. Now-
II have witnesses to the fact that I put in a quarter and a dime.
It was on the hour and when I got back my car is gone.
Courtneyl Those of us sitting up here don't know that one way or the
other. I asked the question. That Is what the parkIng officIal
said. But I think there Is a better answer to this that we really
, can tow anythIng that is on the tow Ilst.
dttl~ttJ I So there are cars just roaming the streets looking for anyone
who has may $16 in fines so they can tow their car away and
be charged maybe $200 if they don't put up a fuss. Is that
what happens.
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Courtneyl My understanding Is that your tickets were Issued
between January 30 and August 5 and that somewhere around
the 17th or 18th of August you received the letter Indicating
that you were on the tow list.
iett~ I No, I didn't get a letter. I didn't see one anyways. And th~t
Is besides the point.
Courtneyl There is a letter mailed once you are put on the tow list.
/tttt~ I As far as I am concerned that Is beside the point. My car was
parked. Don't smile at me, I don't think It is funny. As far as I
am concerned-
~o.urtneyl It Is not funny, it Is the law.
_ lIt Is a ludicrous law.
~o~rtneyl That Is your opinion.
~ IMy car was parked In a legal parking spot the meter should
have been ticking. I put In money Into the meter and I was
Issued a ticket two minutes later while I was In class. There Is
a problem there I would say.
Kubbyl Darrel, did you ask-do we, f there was a problem like this, do
we typically-did you ask them to go check the meter. Or Is that
a typical thing that the meter Is checked.
Courtney/. before the ticket Is ever written they turn the handle so
that they can be sure that someone didn't drop money In and
forget to turn the handle. It happens all the time. The Is
standard procedure. Anytime that there Is going to be a ticket
written that Is the first thing that Is done and If the handles
turns and it [picks up time they go on.
~tt~ IThat has happened that when they put money In, five minutes
later the meters wlll suddenly expire.
Courtneyl The next step to the process Is If you are questioning the
.A ' function of the meter there Is an appeals process to t1l1 that out.
r/iettttX) II am not going to go through all of that. I have been through
enough today. My point Is and my only point Is that and you
can take my word or not-! am here because I am very angry
about this. And I put money in that meter, the meter was on
an hour, I checked It before I went to class. My husband was
standing right next to me who also checked It. And when I
came back my car was gone and I had to go all the way out to
Coralville and all the nonsense In between and I am really
angry about that. And you can take my word or not. Th1s 1s
what happened and It Is ridiculous. The charges and
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everything else as far as having to pay for all of this i think are
exorbitant as well. And I think-
Courtney/ Well, as long as you understand that there is a way to
avoid this and that is to pay the parking tickets when you get
./" . them. Okay.
rJ{titJ). /Thank you for the morality comment. That is not why I came
here.
Courtney/ I understand.
rfe~ /What do you understand,
Courtney/ I understand that you are angry because you got towed
. away but you were in violation.
~/That is no answer to everything that I just said.
Courtney/ I am sorry. I understand your anger but It is the law and
. we are perfectly-
~ttd<l /The law was violated as far as I was concerned, In my opinion.
Kubby/ I would like to find out that it Is typical that if our parking
meter when they are walking by and the notice a car on a tow
list that has a running meter if we typically tow. Does anybody
here know that. Don, do you know that. And that may be the
law that we are able to do that but it also may be a matter of
policy of how we spend-
Don Yucuis/We typically don't tow a car if it Is In a spot that has a -If
they are In a meter that has money in It unless it has had a car
that a person has fed the meter several times at the same
meter which is a violation. You can't feed the meter and keep
it in the same spot over a period of time. We usually don't tow.
We don't go searching for people on the tow lIst. There has to
be a violation that occurs.
J<l!bby/ Okay.
qftltli<J /Oh well, in that case, I was towed illegally.
Kubby/ Maybe not illegally but maybe-
rl4lt~ / Against your own regulations.
Yucuis/ In checking with Mr. Fowler on this the person that issued
the ticket stated that the meter was expired. The person that
was called in to tow the car also came by, checked the meter,
turned the handle to make sure that the money was not
jammed or that the meter was not jammed. In both instances
they stated it was an expired meter.
Plgott/ Could it have been a defective meter.
Yuculs/ If it a defective meter we can check that out.
Kubby/ I think that-
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PlgQtt! Because that sounds like a possibility.
;JtttlA ! Well, as far as I am concerned, It most certainly was
defective.
Kubby! If It was a defective meter. If we go and investigate that
and find that It was. Where, even though on some strictly legal
basis we had a right to tow, where does that leave us In terms
of responsibility In this case or In the next one If there Is one.
Courtney! We are.asklng legal questions over here now.
Kubby! I am not sure that was a legal question.
Atkins! I think you could dismiss the ticket that was Issue but that
doesn't change the fact that the tow violation stili exists. It
doesn't change anything. You can dismiss the ticket.
Burnside! What was the question, Karen, I am sorry. I was looking
up the code section Involved.
Kubby! If the meter was Indeed malfunctioning which triggered this
whole set of events, where does that leave us. Do we have any
wiggle room or obligation to rectify this.
Burnside! The procedure to follow and I don't like the Idea of
making up ad hoc procedures here this evening would he for
her to flIe an appeal. And we would follow those appeal
procedures. If It was found that there was a problem with the
underlying charge we would deal with that.
Kubby! But that doesn't say anything about the tow. That Is just
about the ticket, correct. Or would that trigger another question
about the tow.
Burnside! I would trigger another question and I would look to
Finance Department 0 see If they have an established policy on
that.
Kubby! What Is the time frame for appealing, Don. How long does
she have If she should change her mind. I think that Is
Important Information because things may be different In a
week.
Yuculs! I am sure of the exact time. I know In most cases you have
at least up to a year.
/et";,, ! Are we talking about the $3 ticket or the $50 that I finally
paid.
Kubby! The ticket which Ann said that If the ticket Is appealed and
you win, although to appeal It you have to pay It. Then that
may trigger another question about the tow. So It may be
worth your while to choose to appeal to see what the next
question Is.
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-/t;u, I AIl right, fine. And I do want to reiterate that when I taiked
to the towing company on telephone I was told $200 and when
I got there Is was-
Courtneyl I have no idea where that came from. I didn't go into
that.
Kubbyl Would yqu sign in please so we can get back in touch with
you. And is that something that if we do question about-
Courtneyl I think that warrants a phone callout to the towing
company to ask about that.
Kubbyl By the city because if that was indeed was said that is a
.fl . problem.
~.ttta4 II think so. Thanks for your help.
Kubbyl Thank you for coming down.
Courtneyl Any other items for pubIlc discussion not included on the
agenda.
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Courtney/Moved and seconded (McD/ Horow) to collapse the second
and third readings on this Item. DIscussion.
Kubby/ Real brIefly, I usually don't like to do this so I like to JustIfy
why I am going to vote for It because Design RevIew has not
had a full body for a while and they are trying to do some
things. I want them to be able to have a full body as soon as
possIble.
McD/ I thought your reason was going 0 be Just because It was a
recommendation of he Rules Committee.
Kubby/ Sorry, John.
Courtney/ Any other discussion.
Roll call- (yes)
Move by McD, seconded by Horow for final consideration.
Discussion.
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b. Currant Vacanclas.
(1) Board of Appeals, One vacancy for a flve-yearterm ending December
31, 1998. (John Staska's lerm ands.)
(2) Rlverlront and Natural Areas Commission . One vacancy for a
representative of The University of Iowa for a three-year term ending
December 1, 1996. (Larry Wilson's term ends.)
(3) Senior Center Commission - Two vacancies for three-year tarms andlng
December 31, 1996. (Terms of Bud Gode and Mary Geasland end.)
(4) Design Review Commlllea - One vaca~cy for three-year tarm ending
October 26, 1996.
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These appointments will be made at the October 26, 1993, meeting of the
City Council.
ITEM NO. 10. CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION.
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ITEM NO. 11 . REPORT ON ITEMS FROM THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY.
a. City Manager.
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b. City Allomey.
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Courtney/ City Council Information.
Kubby/I have one thing. I was out of town for a week and I got
around this afternoon to reading ail of myoid Press CItizens
and there was an article In there about this Tip Hotline for the
Police Department and I have very mIxed feelings about it.
Some of it is it really important that people feel safe in giving
information to the police that they think is important. But on
the other hand I can see how It can end up violating two
neighbors. People may come in and out of my house late at
night and it is nobodies business. Maybe they are buying
beads. Maybe they are coming to visit me. Maybe they are
feeding my bird. It doesn't-the assumption I don't want to
make in this community that if you have people coming In and
out of your house that I am selling drugs. So I appreciate the
hotline but I also had concerns about it being abused and I just
wanted to express that conflict to the council and to the
community and call for people to take that hotline seriously
and it is not to be used to get back at people that you have
problems with. That is all I have.
Ambr/ In one of the local morning papers there was an article that
announced to the world that one of the local bar restaurant
facilities was going to be closing down because theIr lease
wasn't going to be renewed. The part that I was concerned
about all during the interview with various employees and
patrons of the establishment they kept referring to it as a bar.
The best bar in town. The best bar to have the best live band.
We are close to the band in this bar. It is just the best bar
around. So the reason I have a concern about that was because
when this facility was granted their Ilquor permit the basis of
the liquor permit was that it was a restaurant because it is in
the lower level of the building and we have an ordinance and
we have the request of our Pollee Department and the Sheriff
Department and all of the people involved with the law
enforcement that we don't like bars in lower leveis or on upper
levels because It Is very very difficult for pollee to maintain
law and order, make an arrest with an inebriated person trying
to push him up the stairs or bring him down stairs. It Is very
difficult for our law enforcement people to enforce the law.
The just of the article was was that this lease was not going to
be renewed next June and that we were going to have a nicer
bar, etc., etc., his words or her words always referring to that
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bar. I would just lIke to alert the Clerk's Office, this councIl,
future councIlors, that whenever that applIcation comes In or
perhaps as even a service to the owner of the buIlding that you
alert that person perhaps that lIquor permit may not be
approved. Because the basis of the lIcense was that they have
more than 50% of their receipts In food services In order to get
that lIquor permit for something that was below grade surface.
I am just making that announcement as a publIc service to the
buIlding owner and future bars owners unless this council
decides to change that ordinance.
Nov/ You mean future restaurant owners.
Ambr/ Or restaurant owners, yeah, which is that way that was
purported to be at the time. And I Intend to give the rest of
the councIl a copy of the article. I have clIpped it out. I will
bring It to you. That Is all I have.
Horow/ I have two items. The first one If that last week was the
first of a number of breakfasts that the, for lack of a better
expression, the school business partnership team Is putting on
with large businesses and schools and community citizens,
small businesses, service organizations. In other words to
Increase the exposure of the businesses and what they will be
needing from students of the future. What they are willing to
offer and what they can offer the school system and the other
way around. What the school system would lIke to do or work
with the businesses. It was a very very fruitful discussion and
for me it was very helpful to see this school business
partnership emerge. People get excited about the potential of
scholarship and the contribution of the business community
and the Industrial community and I think we tend to forget
that there Is more to lIfe out there than just this councIl. That
school Is going on and businesses are going on. It Is very
exciting as t the contribution. The other exciting aspect was,
sorry folks but, they had one heck of a good time Saturday
morning at the Oxford parade. There Is nothing better than a
small town parade and Oxford did It right. They just had an
awfully good time. There were almost more people In the
parade than who were watching the parade.
Kubby/ Thanks for representing us.
Horow/ I thank you for letting me have that honor and I also
appreciate the Fire Department, speclrtcally Mr. Eimer Beckler,
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who drove out there and did us well In terms of representing
us and Iowa City.
Courtney/ Did you ride in the bucket in the fire truck.
Horow/ No but let me tell you that rig needs new shock exorbers. I
lost a Ilttle weight where I can afford to lose some weight.
Kubby/That Is a good technique. The city could rent It out.
Horow/ Right, it would make a lot of money.
Courtney/McD/ You really are easily entertained.
Horow/ They were happy that we were there. They really really
were. It was kind of like, Oh my God, look at what is coming
down the hilI.
McD/ I have no business.
Courtney/ I suppose you are all wondering about the sign behind us.
I kept the drama up all the way through for all of the people
up here. Although everyone up here has seen this sign. The
banner behind us was sent out from the
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Courtney/One of the two cities that has adopted Iowa City and the
Johnson County area for flood rellef. I some discussions with
the good mayor of Santa Rosa today and also the Operation
Payback Office. They have a full office open fully staffed.
Some things that are in the works-the churches out there are
very Involved and the Seventh Day Adventists Church of Santa
Rosa has filled about a half a semi. It is leaving tomorrow. The
current plan Is to deliver to he Salvation Army. It has 12
pallets of goods on It including a stove and a refrigerator for
the church here that was flooded and many clothing items and
toys and so on. There is another full semi load waiting for an
empty semi that is coming this way. Their hardest work Is-
most trucking companies try to have their semis full both
directions of course and so they are having a little bit of a hard
time finding a full semi to come back. They also said there is a
gentIeman that Is coming In from Santa Rosa who Is a skilled
counselor, will be arriving this weekend and stay through the
first of October and he will be coordinating with some local
folks. Captain Miller from the Salvation Army to visit and help
counsel with people that have been displaced from their homes
on a volunteer basis. This leads to the mental health problems
that everyone Is concerned about. Santa Rosa council Is
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approving, I think tonight, a resolution which will be sent out
to us. And the plans for the auction on October 9 are coming
along well. I am going to be escorted around 0 most of he
schools In the area on Friday the 8th to promote the auction by
the good mayor of Santa Rosa and then officiate at the auction
and then that Is the culmination of their whole fund raising
effort and they will present us with some sort of symbolic or a
real check at the time.
Kubby/ Darrel, I may want to send something with you, something
from Iowa City, that somewhere there can have. A pair of ear
rings or something.
Horow/ I would send a loaf of bread but I don't think It would last.
Kubby/ When are you leaving.
Courtney/ October 7. That Is all I have for this evening.
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Ragular Council Meeting
Saptember 14, 1993
Page 8
ITEM NO. 12. RECOMMENDATIONS OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS
a. Consider a recommendation of the Broadband Telecommunications
Commission that tha City Council approve tha BTC Annual Report.
Commanl: this report will be Includad In the FY93 Annual Report of Boards
and Commissions which will soon be published.
b. Consider a- recommandatlon of the Housing Commission to submit two
applications for conslructlon of 1) twanty public housing units for replacement
of homeownershlp sales and 2) twenty new unll Incremant, as published In
the June 28, 1993, Federal Raglster.
Comment: Thesa applications were approved by the City Council at Its
special meatlng of July 19, 1993.
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ZS31TEM NO. 13 . CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK
q:;. ~;.~ TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH ROSEBAR TIRE SHREDDING
CENTER, INC. OF VINTON, IOWA, FOR THE PROVISION OF TIRE RECY.
CUNG SERVICES AT THE IOWA CITY LANDFILL.
Comment: this agreement provides for uie transportation and disposal of tires
from the City landfill to the Rosebar Tire Shredding Center. Tha cost of this
service 10 the City Is $75.00 per ton. this Is a three-year contract, wllh an option
to renaw for one additional year.
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251\ITEM NO. 14. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK
'13- i "', TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH ALTER TRADING CORPORATION OF
DAVENPORT,IOWA, FOR THE PROVISION OF SCRAP METALS RECYCUNG
SERVICES AT THE IOWA CITY LANDFILL.
Commant: this agreement provides for the lransportatlon and disposal of scrap
metal from the City landfill. The City will recalva payment based on the monlhly
market price of ferrous metal. This agreement will allow the City to continue this
scrap metal recycling program. This Is a threa-year contracl, wllh an option to
renew for ona additional yaar.
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Courtney/ Moved by Nov, seconded by Horow. Discussion.
Horow/ Yes, I only have one question. I am assuming that by us
having these three different contracts that there is definitely
some fiscal reason whIle we are committing ourselves to three
years. I didn't ask that question with Rosebar because I can
assume that there is a need for it. The scrape metal I do
question. Why are we getting ourselves into a three year
contract.
Atkins/ It has worked in the past. I don't know how else to answer
that.
Horow/ The market Is not projected to be that volatile that we-
Atkins/ Scrap metal we have had very little difficulty. We have
always been able to have some Income form that.
Nov/ And the contract says the monthly market price is what we are
going to get. However it changes It changes. One thing it did
not mention Is tin cans and I would like some assurance that
we are able to send them tin cans and not just appliances,
automobIles.
Kubby/ it says, on page two, it says the contractor agrees to pick up
all types of scrap metal delivered to the city landfill from
whatever source.
Nov/ I just wanted to hear that tin cans are Included in that
whatever source.
Floyde Pelkey/ We have that option to send them the tin cans or
they can go to-If they are collected by our recycling trucks at
curbside or drop sites, they can also go to City Carton. We
actually have two options for tin cans.
Nov/ This up to you or whoever that Is managing it at the landfill to
decide which one Is the better deal.
Pelkey/ At the landfill we get very few tin cans unless somebody out
of the kindness of their hear when they are bringing us their
trash brings a back or can of tin cans with them. We will go
ahead and put it In the box and they do accept it.
Nov/ I am just asking about the stuff that they are picking up at the
curb. This Is at your discretion which place it goes.
Pelkey/ Sure, we could go either place.
Kubby / So If someone comes to the landfill with a truck full of metal
and they don't have to go on the scale, they can take It directly
to the recycling box.
Pelkey/ No. They do cross the scale and they do pay us to use It.
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Kubby/ So they are paying full landfill price when we get paid for It
being taken away.
Pelkey/ Right. A lot of stuff we get In the appliances we have to go
through and take out the capacitors and the ballasts so we do
have a charge or we do have a cost associated with the charge
of crossing the scales.
Kubby/ So If someone brings In Iron scope that has a metal handle do
you take the handles off. Wooden handle I mean.
Pelkey/No.
Kubby / Will they take that kind of stuff.
Pelkey/ Yeah they will take that. That has ever been a problem.
Like the plastic out of a refrigerator. They have a landfill of
their own that they can get rid of that or recycle It If they've a
place for It to go to.
Kubby/ Okay, so If I wanted to come In with a bunch of scrape stuff
like old screen frames and that kind of thing I can go tot he
landfill but I do have to pay the tipping fee.
Pelkey/That Is correct, yeah. It Is hard to get rid of that stuff. The
other option to that Is to call1lke one of the local junk yards to
take that off of your hands. We do suggest that to anybody
that calls us. If they say well I have got a bunch of old storm
doors and storm windows and they say can we take It to the
landfill. We say yes but you need to pay but you can call on
local scrape dealers and see If they will take It off your hands.
Atkins/ The should. I Imagine the scrap dealers are a lot cheaper
than our tippIng fee.
Pelkey/ Yeah, they are and some are getting particular about what
they do take because they do want the metals right now that
do have good market value. But they do take a lot of stuff.
Nov/ A lot of storm windows have aluminum frames. That does
have some market value.
Pelkey/ They do and there Is a lot of different types of aluminum out
there and that Is why a lot of people get confused wit
aluminum cans or even our tin can drop off sites. We finds
aluminum windows and doors and everything else In those
bins. People don't understand there is a difference but we
don't want to dIscourage anybody from uslng-
Courtney/ Any other dIscussion.
Roll call-
The resolution Is adopted.
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Regular Council Meeting
September 14, 1993
Page 9
255 ITEM NO. 15. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SECTION 5(H) IMPLEMENTING
'. qg,-:, AGREEMENT FOR THE CONVERSION OF PUBLIC HOUSING TO PRIVATE
OWNERSHIP.
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Comment: The Iowa City Housing Authority wlshas to provide homeownershlp
opportunities to the residents and participants In the Assisted Housing Programs.
HUD has approved the Section 5(h) homaownershlp plan and has received an
application for 20 units of replaoomant housing. this Implamentlng agreement
will allow the Tenant to Owner program 10 begin. Staff recommends approval of
the Resolution.
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ITEM NO. 16, CONSIDER A RESOLUTION GRANTING EXTENSION OF THE DEADLINE,
FOR TELECOMMUNICATIONS, INC. OF EASTERN IOWA (TCI) TO SUBMIT
A PROPOSAL FOR PROVIDING CABLE TELEVISION SERVICE TO IOWA
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Comment: this resolution will grant an extension to October 20, 1993, to TClto
reply to the request for proposal for providing cable television service with the
condition that TCI entar Into an agreement which grants to the City extra tlma,
If naeded, to respond to TCI's proposal.
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ITEM NO. 17. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE BUDGETED POSmONS IN THE
WASTEWATER TREATMENT DIVISION OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPART.
MENT.
Comment: The Wastewaler Treatment Division currently has two Malntenance
Worker /I Collection positions (pay grade 4) and two Malnlenance Worker Plant
positions (pay grade 5). In tha past lhe employees worked In their designated
area, however, It Is more efficient and productlva to use these positions
Interchangeably. Therarore, we are, combining lhese two malntanance worker
tlUes Into one. The total numbar of Maintenance Workar /I positions ramalns the
same.
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Courtney/ Moved by McD, seconded by Ambr. Discussion.
Horow/ I have a question for Ron. We have in this city a number of
programs that all deal with providing housing, assisting
housing, providing It, rehabilitating It, helping people to buy
their houses, helping them to rent, helping them to maintain
and I think that Is good. I think a city government needs
compassion. But I also think from my own point of view that
we also need to look at and evaluate some of these programs
after they have been In the process for a while whether or not
we really should continue to accept federal money for
something. That perhaps It is not really that workable. Do we
have or are you thinking about some sort of evaluation to
measure the success of these programs. Do we get some people
out of these homes and loft out of the nest, as it were,
successfully. DO we have a way of evaluating whether or not
those who have gone through the program of maintaining an
apartment or a home have done so successfully. I feel I have
very mixed emotions about these programs so I guess I really
am looking for some sort of concerted approached either from
the Housing Commission, even the Greater Iowa City Housing
Fellowship group plus our own staff In terms of coming up with
some evaluation. Is this on Its way.
Ron Henderson/ Yeah, I think that one of the things that Is an
Integral part of the program and I think of the administrative
staff as a chronic review of what we doing. We are In such a
changing environment. We have had a political change of wind
so to speak In D.C. so that things are changing and sometimes It
Is best to be on board and sometimes it Is best to get out of the
way of a bus that Is coming through. I think that this Is Just
one tool that may be appropriate In our area here because of
the cost of people getting Into housing. It may be. I don't
know. It has to have some evaluation to It. I don't think that
this program will Just be allowed to run. There Is going to have
to be other evaluations on It Just to make sure that It is
meeting goals and needs. I think President Clinton stated that
they are gOing to overhaul the welfare system. This Is the
fringe of the welfare system but what Is more Important is the
philosophical basis of the overhaul. We are going to have to
look at what we are doing, for Instance, Just In assistance alone.
Is the philosophy of assistance, Is that crippling. Are we
keeping people In poverty by assisting them. That Is
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something that we have to look at. So this Is Just one of many
programs that I think needs to be looked at. Unfortunately this
Is one of those programs that Is going to be a hindsight
evaluation. We can look at all the predictors to see that there
are going to be successes. There should be successes. But It Is
going to be basically In hindsight and that may be llke a three
to four to five year period. But I think we wlll have a good
feeling early on whether of not this Is going to be a success or
not or If it Is meeting the needs of the people of Iowa City.
Horow/ Okay. Thank you because I Just think every single one, no
matter at what level, there needs to be public accountability.
In order to do that you have got to have some evaluative tools
here.
Plgott/ I was Just thinking about that and I was thinking that maybe
some of the characteristics of success or lack of success or the
default rates or the number of people that plan to-that they
decided that they would like to participate In this program.
Are those some of the Indicators that might be of whether this
Is successful or-
Henderson/ Yes, obviously. I think that one of the things that we try
to do Is mirror life. We try to be something different than
what life Is. If life knocks you around then somewhat the
system should knock you around. It was unfortunate about the
parking meter situation that came before you but that Is one of
life's prevails that probably does more to teach about what life
Is about than Just a simple going to school. Likewise with our
program.
Courtney/ Where were you when I needed you a little while ago.
Henderson/ I had much more time to think about It than you did.
No-It Is a difficult situation. I do believe that the same rates pr
the same things that banks would say to a person owning a
home should be said to the people we have. They should not
necessarily be shielded from these realities. At the same time
we have to know that they may not have the strength to go on
without us helping to carryon. So-
Plgott/ It Is Interesting. As you have said the political winds have
changed In Washington. In the past this sort of program, it
seems to me, was a basis of which some people thought was a
great way to get the country out of the housing business
because they were philosophically opposed to the United
States-first they thought that housing provided by the
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government was a failure and secondly they thought that that
wasn't the role of government. When I think about this
program I don't share that view and so It concerns me, the
program, because I don't share that view and I don't want this
to be that for us. I, Instead, would like to see, the provision of
housing and I hope that-and I am supportive of providing
housing/home ownership for lower Income people as well as
rental polley because I think the government In Washington
provides us with Incentives and all sorts of ways to provide
home ownership for those people who already have some
money so that It is a good polley to give that same chance for
home ownership to people who don't have a lot of money. But
the one thing that concerns me Is that It Is the Reagan Bush sort
of program of getting us out of the housing business and one
concern that I would like to see you, If this Is passed, I would
like to pursue Is to make sure that for every house that Is sold
we make sure that our rental housing Isn't depleted but
maintains Its level. I think the rental housing stock, the
affordable rental housing stock, Is really low. So we have to
really be careful about that. Providing that opportunity for
home ownership Is very Important for lower and moderate
Income people just as we do for higher Income people. But we
should also maintain that housing stock and Increase It.
Nov / That Is one of the reasons I will vote for this In spite of the fact
that subsidizing ownership Is not my favorite cup of tea. We
will have people In this program who have gone from low
Income to moderate Income and we have no way to tell them
they are no longer eligible for this program. We continue to
rent to them as long as they choose to stay In that location. We
don't tell them we have a waiting list you are no longer eligible.
So pulIlng those moderate Income people out of this and then
replacing that with a new rental unit and pulIlng somebody
else off of the waiting list Is a good way to handle this and I
assume that Is the way that you are going to handle this. And I
also assume that we are going to be careful that we are not
going to fall. We are going to pick people who do know what
home ownership means and If they don't we are going to teach
them what home ownership means and how their obligations
have changed. Right?
Henderson/ That Is correct.
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Nov! And I am also making the assumption that the second sale of
that house will be to another low moderate Income person who
Is qualified under our program under our housing authority.
Henderson! That Is correct and It will be conditioned much like, I
think, Sycamore View second sales are conditioned also.
Kubby! Ron, can you speak a little bit to the amount of money that
we are going to get from HUD and how that will help us
maintain our public housing stock. That we are -the only way I
can support this Is if there Is a one to one replacement of the
housing stock. Theoretically that will happen.
Henderson! It Is not theoretically, that is federal law.
Kubby! Okay. So what happens If $83,000 or $85,000 per unit.
What If we cannot buy a lot and build a structure of three
bedrooms or larger for that amount of money. Do we have-
Isn't there an appeals process to get more money.
Henderson! HUD Is Intent on providing homes. If they allocated us
Just using that figure-If we have $85,000 and they gave us 10
houses so we at $850,000. And when we started to push the
pencil and get down to very hard-you know, task, about
buying this lot and this lot and doing this construction and so
forth. We find out we can't do it for that price for three
bedroom detached single family homes. That we might have to
go to zero lot lines or duplexes or some other combination.
Then HUD has the responsibility to sit down and look at us.
They have already allocated the money so what we have to do
now Is formulate the project that will fit our needs and HUD's
needs under that dollar cap. They are motivated to build or
create housing Just as much as we are motivated to do it to.
Kubby!With that scenario, If we are talking about zero lot lines, I
want to make sure that If we are having some five bedroom
homes, for example, for sale to a family. If we have two five
bedroom homes that we build at least two five bedroom homes.
Henderson! That Is what we are looking at.
Kubby! So those kinds of one to one ratios would then the overall
one to one ratio will be followed.
Henderson! Yes, that Is correct. Also HUD will allow us, I didn't
attempt it this time, we can attempt it In the future project.
With this one to go to completion at a good level. That we may
be trying to convert some twos-two bedroom units Into private
home ownership and maybe try to get them to give us back
threes and fours. In other words trying to tailor the housing
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stock for our needs. The private Investor driven market here
Is for one, two and three bedrooms with threes being a smaller
number but ones and twos. I think that our responsibility as a
public housing authority Is to meet those gaps that the private
sector doesn't meet and those are the threes and fours and five
bedroom units that are not very marketable.
Kubby/ Can we buUd three, four and five bedroom zero lot units for
$85,000.
Henderson/ Is that allowed by PIZ. If it Is I will do anything, sure.
Nov/ I think we also have to redefine what we are calling affordable
housing. We have to say whatever these units are in terms of
bedrooms that there are no basements, there are no garages,
there are no central air conditioning units so that we build It
for the money we have. We just don't put In as many
amenities.
Kubby/ I would agree on that except on energy efficiency. That part
of the families monthly bills Is their utilities and If we need to
spend 2% more to add ceiling fans and great Insulation and
triple glazed windows to save people on a monthly basis as we
talk about-
Nov/ I agree that.
Kubby/ I have one last question. That is you and I talked about
timing Issues. That I am Interested In having some units built
before we sell them so that for a short period of window of
opportunity we actually have a slight Increase In the units of
public housing vs. a slight decrease. And I would like you to
explain what you said to me because I don't think I can
articulate It very well and to answer the question that If we
build-let's say we build ten units. We have got them built. We
only have seven families who will qualify under our criteria.
What happens with that three units.
Henderson/ Nothing. It Is ours. I think one of the things I may have
talked to you abut Is there are several clocks starting at a
certain time. For Instance, they award us ten units, let us say
new construction, for the replacement of these units that we
would be selling. The clock for the construction project would
start on the same day the clock would start for the conversion.
So It becomes a matter then of a race of time. If we are lucky
we find ten lots and get ten basements and ten houses started
before we have processed the people through what training
programs or whatever they need to get the home ownership
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sate period. Then those clocks are Independent of one and
another. As long as we show good faith on either side of the
program then HUD Isn't going to do much to us as long as we
are showing good faith and progress. Because they understand
that the rainy weather we had could have really sunk a project
especially If we were looking at like, for instance, slab houses.
We could have really had some real construction delays due to
wet ground. So HUD understands that and as long as I think
they see progress on both sides there Is never going to be
really a decision on their part that one Is not moving In favor of
the other. They will look at them as independent but tied
together In an illusionary type of way. If we make the
construction project fall and In the other project let HUD deal
with what they want to do with the three houses they are not
going to take them back. They will just say oh, that Is your
next fair share maybe. I mean they can punish us. I would
rather be told after I got the houses that I was suppose to stop
building. I think the concern that you have Is that we want to
make sure that we are going to completion. We are not going
to wind up with four or five houses sold and then no
replacements because that Is contrary, as I sald originally to
federal law, it would be contrary to the agreement we signed
tonight. It was contrary to the promise that we made to you.
Kubby/ For me the one to one ratio replacement Is the crucial point.
If it weren't I would be adamantly opposed to this program
because I really disagree with the philosophy upon which these
programs have been built.
Horow/ I have one other question. Is this program capable of being
carried outside the Jurisdiction of Iowa City. Like you can give
vouchers to people to go to other municipalities. Can these
moneys be used say In Hills for the purpose of helping people
In Iowa City.
Henderson/ Our charter with the federal government Is border to
border and then some. So we can operate In other states. We
can but it Is up to the city council to determine wherein we
would focus our operation. To this point the statement has
always been within the corporate limits of the City of Iowa
City. So It Is on-the question you should ask yourself Is do you
want those options there.
Horow/ That brings up for me-It brings up even another aspect of
this whole thing. Obviously I have no problems going along
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with it right now In the corporate limits of Iowa City. But
would certainly be open to amending it to be something that a
regional housing commission would so suggest because that
would be excltlng If this could be done on a regional basis.
Henderson/ Is Steve In charge of our travel allowances now.
Horow/ An amendment could be made at such time as some
recommendation like that was made and/or adopted by
council.
Nov/ You may run Into a situation where you have just as much
money and there Isn't a lot available and you want to sell a
house and you have got to build a new one and a lot Is
available somewhere outside the city limits, do It.
Henderson/ We would come back to the council, obviously, like for
peripheral or contiguous county building areas. I think that Is
just a give maybe even In the council's eyes that sometimes it
happens where you just build outside the city limits. I
understood your comment to be more regional based nature-
extending an offer to even the other cities, communities, or
even the counties Itself opportunity to have that there If they
so desire It. I think that Is something that the council could act
on. At this point the worst I would say would just be a
contiguous area. You know just across the city limits. On the
other side of Scoot blvd. or some place like that.
Courtney/ Any other discussion.
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Courtney/Moved by Ambr, seconded by Horow. DIscussion.
Kubby / So they are all pay grades five.
AtkIns/ Yes.
Nov/That was my question also.
Courtney/ What Is the total cost of this.
AtkIns/ In new money. I suspect it Is probably less than $500 each.
Courtney/ I kind of like to have those Included In these. Any other
discussion.
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Regular Council Meeting
September 14, 1993
Page 10
ITEM NO. 18 - CONSIDER A RESOLUTION DECLARING AN OFFICIAL INTENT UNDER
93 - c ZS e, TREASURY REGULATION 1.150-2 TO ISSUE DEBT TO REIMBURSE THE
CITY FOR CERTAIN ORIGINAL EXPENDITURES PAiD IN CONNECTION
WITH SPECIFIED PROJECTS.
Comment: this resolution declares official Intent under Treasury Regulation
1.150-2 that the City of Iowa City will Issue debt to reimburse Itself for expendi-
tures paid out In connection with Improving the Robert A. Lee Community
Recreation Center Including reroofing and replacemant of flooring. The total
estimated cost of the project Is $425,000. The General Fund will advance
approximately $35,000 and the Landfill Raserve will advance approximately
$390,000.
Action: /hid/. ~/}
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ITEM NO. 19. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 32.1-63, FEES OR
CHARGES AUTHORIZED IN CHAPTER 23 OF THE IOWA CITY CODE. (FIrst
Consideration)
Comment: this arnandmant to Chapter 32.163, Fees and Charges, allows the
escalation of unpald parking tlckels. At the end of ten (10) calendar days unpald
$3.00 expired metar and overtime tickets will escalate to $5.00. At the end of
thirty (30) days all unpald parking tickets except handlcappad will escalate to
$10.00. this action Is being takan to encourage the timely payment of parking
tickets. Effective date of this action shall be January 1, 1994.
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ITEM NO. 20 ' ADJOURNMENT.
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Courtney/ Moved by Ambr, seconded by Horow. Discussion.
Kubby/ So we borrowed money from ourselves to work on the Rec
Center. We Issued debt and we are paying ourselves back from
the debt.
Atkins/ When we Issue the debt. We have not done that. This
authorizes us to do that. Beginning the process. This
guarantees that you can do that.
Nov/ We can do that when we feel up to It. When the rates are good.
Atklns/ Yes. The market Is good, the size of the debt Issue. In fact I
think we have one coming next council meeting something
similar giving us authorization to proceed with the Issuance of
debt for capital project related to the flood. It Is an authority
to do something.
Courtney/ When we going to talk about Issuing debt. Have you-debt
period. Do we have a time schedule on that.
Atkins/The CIP Financial Plan. In fact we worked on It this
afternoon. It Is really a matter of Just getting the thing
prepared and getting It to you. I am suspecting not a debt
Issue when-any Ideas on your time frame.
Don Yuculs/ On the actual Issuance of debt. Our Intent would be to
try to Issue some debt this calendar year. Because the fed
regulations are on a calendar year basis and there Is a five
million dollar cap that certain regulations fall under. There Is a
ten million cap and when you Issue bonds those regulations fall
under and it would be better for our purposes to try to issue
some debt this calendar year and then we wllllssue some more
later.
Courtney/It Is possible to put the resolutions and stuff in front of us
for approval and then let the Finance Department elect the
timing of It as far as catching the market rates.
Yuculs/ We could do that. I think with the capital projects things we
are worklng on we are wanting to bring back the projects to
you and say this Is what we think we can afford to do this
fiscal year.
Atkins/Don't we do that anyway. We go to market on the thing. We
have some flexibility. The resolution doesn't authorize a
market date that I recall. It authorizes the sale that you are
willing to go along with the debt. We don't actually go to
market unless we feel the market Is worthwhile. Is that what
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Courtney /Yeah, except that you could be two or four weeks off and
that can have a rather large impact in the interest rate that we
get and I was just wondering if there was any way we could
open end this a little bit where we could give some approval
and you hit the market on a specific date.
Yucuis/ There is usually at least a 30 day time period because you
have t set a p.h., you have to identify the projects, you have to.
it is generic.
Courtney/ But once you have done all of that do you have to, on that
final day, do you have to go to market with them like we have
done in the past.
Yucuis/ No. That allows you to go when you want. We did that in the
refinancing of the bonds. We did everything in advance and
when we wanted to go to market the market wasn't good so we
decided to back out of it, let's cancel it, and then we waited for
a better window and it was to our advance. We waited four or
five months.
Atkins/ Did we have to redo everything.
Yucuis/ No.
Atkins/ We didn't have to do the p.h. over again. We just said bad
time for market, stop, and we didn't proceed until the market
improved. Then we went back to the market. You had already
given us authority.
Courtney/ I am looking at It from the other angle here. I am looking
for a good time for the market than postponing because of a
bad market. I want to be able to give them some flexibility to
get a good market.
Atkins/ The market is good now.
Courtney/ that is why I am asking. Okay. I guess if we can get some
resolutions. If we can do that sort of thing we probably ought
to increase our flexibility a little bit as long as you are planning
to do it before the end of the year anyway.
Atkins/ We can talk to bond counsel about that. There are so many
state laws and then you have the IRS code on top of it. We
know we are going to proceed with these things anyway. Just a
question of timing.
Nov/ Steve, has this money been spent.
Atkins/ This money has been authorized. We are under contract, the
work is under way, we have to make payments to the
contractor. So there is an appropriation that has been set aside
to pay the bill.
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Nov/ And we have actually signed a contract and started the work.
AtklnslYes. Remember that you awarded the contract two weeks
ago.
Yuculs/ Just for the roof repairs. Nothing on the flooring yet.
Nov/ If there Is a contract on flooring that wlIl come through us and
we borrow the money and pay the contractor.
Atklns/ Yes we would.
Courtney/Any other discussion.
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Courtneyl Moved by Horow, seconded by Nov. Discussion.
Kubby. I had a couple of comments. Last night we had agreed that
we would do our best to do some continual public Information
about this ordinance. As people come and go In this town and
we talk about different towing laws In terms of street storage
or bicycle laws this Is another ordinance that we have that we
will need to consistently need to put out there.
Atkinsl The new students. We will have to prepare a flyer. We
always send them a packet of Information about things that are
going on. There will have to be something. I agree with you.
Kubbyl And Don said that the tickets would be designed in a way
that It would be very clear that this Is the ordinance in Iowa
City. And lastly the one thing that Is not in the ordinance but Is
a matter of policy Is that the amount of money that will trigger
a tow will now Increase from $15 to $50 and I think that is a
necessary thing with these changes In ticket prices.
Yuculsl That Is actually not a policy_ It is In the ordinance. What we
wanted to do Is get this In place and once this Is on place we
wlll proceed with coming back to you on Increasing the rates
from $15 to $50. We don't want to have that In place until we
start this program because otherwise the $3 ticket you would
have to have quite a few more tickets to get up to the $50
level.
Kubby/ I just want to make sure that Is doesn't work the other way.
If this starts and I get two tickets I could be towed.
Yuculsl No.
Kubbyl That wlll not happen.
Yuculsl In fact the tickets that have already been issued through the
end of the calendar year wlll not escalate.
Nov/ This doesn't start until the first of January so I assume that the
new towing limit wlll also start the first of January.
Yuculsl Correct.
Kubbyl And why aren't we doing that In the same agenda that we
are doing this because they are companion changes.
Yucuisl The way the ordinance Is drafted Is once it is approved at
three council considerations it will be adopted and that wlll put
in to place, If we had the $50 item in here, that would put that
Into place right away. So we could not tow people at the $15
level. So we wanted to delay that untill.
Karrl Don Is clarifying the difference between an ordinance and a
resolution. An ordinance has three readings and a resolution
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finish this one.
Nov! Not an ordinance.
Kubby! We need a resolution to change our polley.
Karr! That would be forth coming.
Kubby! So it is not an ordinance and it is a policy but to change the
polley we need the resolution.
Yuculs! Once this Is adopted we are not going to Implement the
Increases until January 1 because we have to order some new
tickets and new billings and we have about a 60-90 window to
do that and that will give us plenty of time to do that and we
want to do it after the holiday.
Courtney! Any further discussion.
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Courtney/ before we adjourn just a couple things I forgot during
council time. We have run Into some attendance problems with
the proposed meeting next Monday the joint meeting between
the county and the city. At this point I count four council
members and two board of supervisors that can make it and I
think that Is a fairly weak attendance. We are up to five and
two. That Is the count as of today and they haven't talked to
Pat yet to know whether she can or not.
Horow/ I would urge us to really look Into this because I got word
from one supervisor today that they had heard that It was
canceled so they promptly started stuffing their calendars with
things. So there has been a lack of communication here and If
we have got five members who will I would really ask that we
get back to them and say I don't know what the problem was
but we would really like to have this meeting.
Kubby/ I agree.
Plgott/ I agree.
Courtney/ I am one that will not be there. I ran Into conflict that I
found out after I got home last night. That Is fine. The word I
am getting from the vice-chair over there Is that they don't
want to have the meeting and I don't know If they have
officially discussed it at a meeting or not. That would be
Thursday.
Horow/ We are getting mixed signals. All I got was we were the
ones who didn't think we wanted it because three of you were
not going to be here anyway. Then they were told that maybe
the meting was off and so, because of that, some of them pt
stuff on their calendar.
Kubby/ We should try to have the meeting. We should try to get a
third supervisor and the agenda Items.
Horow/ The more we get together with them the better.
Courtney/ Okay. You are It.
The second Item Is that I have had some questions about
Dubuque Street popping up. Apparently it Is looking a little
dryer. Do we have any kind of official position on It.
Atklns/ Rick was out on Dubuque this afternoon and as a water
recedes and everything Indicates It may In fact we may begin
even seeing more of city park by this weekend. I think I
mentioned to you that we had a police officer observe that the
road had dropped. There does appear to be damage to the
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road. And until we can do the proper engineering work. There
may be the very real potential that we may have two lanes
cleared by this weekend. I cannot recommend putting traffic
on that until we are absolutely sure and we may have the thing
settle by this time next week.
Courtney/I understand we have have some moving of barricades
and people trying to drive on it anyway.
Atklns/ I have not received that complaint. If that Is the case then
we wlll take care of that because they are not only endangering
themselves. If that roadway Is in sad shape all they are going
to do is mess it up even more for us. The water has to recede
to kind of dry out so we can do the right kind of work on It.
Nov / I drive in a regular basis over the Park Road bridge and yes
there is a part of the barricade that Is flattened out.
Atkin/ It wlll be taken care of.
Courtney/ I thought that was some lIablllty to-
Atkins/ I don't think there Is an doubt that there Is Ilablllty to it.
Nov /The street looks almost half way dry.
Atkins/ Yes. It is on it's way. We have Just got to be sure about this
one before we have any traffic on It. It Is not worth the risk.
Kubby/ I also handled out that bike Issues memo that I had talked
about last night. I really appreciate if you could read It and
add some ideas to that and that we schedule It for an Informal
at some point.
Atkins/ Okay.
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City of Iowa City
MEMORANDUM
DATE: September 10, 1993
TO: City Council
FROM: City Manager
RE: Work Session Agendas and Meeting Schedule
September 13 , 1993 Monday
6:15 P.M. - Meetin9 ~f the City Council Rules Committee _
Council Chambers
6:30 - 8:00 P.M.
6:30 P.M.
~:50 P.M.
City Council Work Session - Council Chambers
- Review zonin9 matters
- Council agenda, Council time, Council committee reports
Special Council Meetin9 - Council Chambers
(Executive Session. property acquisition and pending
litigation)
September 14, 1993 Tuesday
7:30 P.M. - Regular Council Meeting - Council Chambers
7:00 P.M.
September 27, 1993 Monday
6:30 . 8:30 P.M. City Council Work Session - Council Chambers
Agenda pending
September 28, 1993 Tuesday
7:30 P.M. - Regular Council Meeting. Council Chambers
PENDING LIST
Appointment to the Planning and Zoning Commission. October 12, 1993
Appointments to the Design Review Committee, Board of Appeals, Riverfront
and Natural Areas Commission, and Senior Center Commission - October 26,
1993
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