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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1994-03-08 Agenda ~, l , . ',..,", ", i. \', ' ',',.' I . ~ ;,' ,i ., IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL .' . , . I , 1 AGENDA " / ; I SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING OF MARCH 8, 1994 7:30 P.M. ~ \ d COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CIVIC CENTER 410 EAST WASHINGTON ,~ '/ ' I ~ . ~ ~ , , ' ,/ - :(" ~_7. ......_.~-...... ~__, :,'~,.-. i . )...:...:.'''.'''....''''.''..'.''"'..'' .,......, ,....".'1..." ....1' <,.{ " ' . "","",:..,',;',,',' (:::,..: "; i ',>~,::." '.:-:;:;::I~:,;,rf,1 '-, ','\ ,,' L :" ,\ '",: " ..' -, ,,' , '_~:: .. ...., .'. "':f",Q ""i" . .'. J Co. .'. .0. " . ~...:i:."~ ,"_'_:' ""'_\:~)'~:')"":.',..t",, .. :'," ,- ,"" '",,~ ~ (;::,_,;I-;':':C-::_::l,'/>; . "~l.,~~{_:;,_,:::,. ;'. '~:~';:"\; '~\'~:':.'~::..:':', ......j~' . "" ,.' " .!',' , ",. ;'-J,'; .~ .' ':> .' . ~ ",', ; :,.~:i...::..:~~~.;.:..;.;.:.:..:....;,;.~"':;'~;._~"\""-'''''~U''''':'''''':'''''"I~''''''';''''''.'~;''"""__.,_;.~. _.'~~_, ,_,~':...~, :.. , " ... ,-,', ~:, , -'; ITEM NO. 3- )JCt~ :;;:r ~ :::; n'L~ ~ a. Daffodil Days - March 28-April 1, 1994. b, ~f ~ ()~,.. Ya1.. I )Jiau~;k) I '7'/' 'f: CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED OR AMENDED. AGENDA IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING. MARCH 8, 1994 7:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBERS ITEM NO. 1 - CALL TO ORDER. ROLL CALL. , , i I , t '( , ITEM NO.2- MAYOR'S PROCLAMATIONS "" i ',,1 1 i 'i ! . ) . I . , . , , a. Minutes of Boards and Commissions. (11 Human Rights Commission meeting of February 28, 1994. (2) Committee on Community Needs meeting of January 26, 1994. " " (3) Mayor's Youth Employment Board meeting of January 5, 1994. " :;' (4) Historic Preservation Commission meeting of February 8, 1994. . ;, (5) Board of Adjustment meeting of February 9, 1994. b. Setting Public Hearings. i 'I qq-b ~ (1) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION SETTING A DATE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON MARCH 29,1994, ON THE PROPOSITION OF THE ISSUANCE OF $6,940,000 GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS OF IOWA CITY, IOWA, AND PROVIDING FOR PUBLICATION OF NOTICE THEREOF. Comment: This resolution sets a date for a public hearing on March 29, 1994, at 7:30 P.M. in the Council Chambers to receive oral and/or written comments or objections from any reGident or property owner regarding the issuance of $6,940,000 of General Obligation Bonds. The projects include: Rohret Road ($2,100,0001; Wastewater distribution projects - Westside Trunk, Pine, Kineton, Sunset ($795,000); Wastewater- EPA compliance, design only ($1,555,000); New Water Treatment Facility - design only ($1,500,000); Whispering Meadows Wetlands Park Develop- ment ($190,000); Curb Ramp Improvements (ADA) ($50,000); Regional Storm water Detention - S. Sycamore Area ($705,000); and Bond Issuance Costs ($50,000). ... .i , The actual bond issue will be closer to $7.4 million because the City Council already approved Resolution 93-258, which allowed the City to reimburse itself from bond proceeds for the costs associated with the Robert H. Lee Recreation Center roof and floor replacement ($425,000). ":fl. !!. --_, , ~~ " . -,~.~~ - ,-",,', .. . , . .c..' ",.:,;.r"Q:,,'l.. ""i:;':;" . "Jl__"'_ ' ... '~ .: _' :i1I;,:;" '",.' ;:'-\~:.':'.....,...:'....."?'-""\'...':'~. ktvnL 1f{1UMQ I ! . '. , " . 1':"''1011\ "t' '') 5 ., ' I.....'..:,' , , ','. 0, , :i "'. " " " . : "~~~: ,""" ",i :,,; 'l .. , .~ i 'f" ',. . .. ... Agenda Iowa City City Council' Special Council Meeting March 8, 1994 Page 2 qf-b4- (2) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARING FOR MARCH 29,' 1994, ON PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS, FORM OF CONTRACT AND ESTIMATE OF COST FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE IOWA CITY SENIOR CENTER EXTERIOR REPAIRS PROJECT. Comment: This project consists of the repair and reconstruction of the Senior Center roof and skylight as well as repair and resto- ration of exterior stone work, brick facade, and window lintels. Preliminary cost estimates include base bid: $43,575.00 and add alternate #1: $21,700,00. ",j c. Resolutions. .1 9.t/-~ ~S (1) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST THE RELEASE OF A LIEN REGARDING A PROMISSORY NOTE AND A MORTGAGE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1703G STREET, IOWA CITY, IOWA. " Comment: The owners of the property located at 1703 G Street - received a low-interest loan of $1,944 through the City's Housing Rehabilitation Program on April 8, 1992. The loan was paid off on February 16, 1994, and can now be released. " q4-~ (2) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST THE RELEASE OF TWO LIFE ,-, ~ LIENS REGARDING TWO PROMISSORY NOTES FOR PROPERTY ,.., LOCATED AT 502 THIRD AVENUE, IOWA CITY, IOWA. Comment: The owner of the property located at 502 Third Ave- (" nue, through the City's Housing Rehabilitation Program, received '"~ assistance for a total amount of $2,705.25. This amount was ....----:!. paid back to the City on February 28, 1994, and can now be \ . released. \ \" ' ~ qlf- "7 (3) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN ; AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST THE RELEASE OF A DRAIN- AGEWAY AND STORMWATER STORAGE EASEMENT LOCATED ~ ON LOT 44, FIRST AND ROCHESTER, PART ONE, IOWA CITY, IOWA AND TO EXECUTE NEW DRAINAGEWAY AND STORM- WATER STORAGE AREA AND NEW STORM SEWER AND DRAIN- ," AGE EASEMENTS FOR THAT PROPERTY. . ", I",' / 1\ . } Comment: The City possesses a drainageway and storm water storage area easement on Lot 44, First and Rochester, Part One, Iowa City, Iowa. In order to increase the buildable area of the lot, the owner has requested the City to rele,ase the existing easement in exchange for a new easement over a smaller portion of Lot 44. The City does not require the additional area included in the origi- nal easement. In addition, a storm water and drainage easement was inadvertently omitted during the platting process. This Reso- lution authorizes release of the existing easement, execution of the replacement easement and execution of the storm water and drainage easement. "i 'or' '~_..._'_. "'.',' " 11:_' ...,.,-;,:~ ...':'..'.;".'_', '.......,~ -':!.>,~,,~ '. i,'~~',- .~,:~"::~~.,~,.~,,,....,r"'''''',~,-':'''~ " .,;'l,l, 1",0" ."."'_ ~\"'" ' "" .",":/_:'".~,;<.,.:, ,:);':'.,' ," , ',: , T":~'" :1''';':\ :t s .0;, '~ ' "-, ,"" i,: ';'. ~':" 1 ":"",,. \ ,;,< ;'. .1 .' . ',-, . '. , '~.~. ,or f.,' ",' ' . .~ .~ .. ~ " ,I ':,"" " ':'.',,',,, ,,:-,,:;:.,' :",,;~:~~~;";~"":~":"'~~-~':"":'~~~--,--- : Ia. Agenda Iowa City City Council Special Council Meeting March 8, 1994 Page 3 I I d. Correspondence. 1''-' (1) Petition signed by sixteen Iowa City and Coralville residents re- garding the SEATS service. :, ,':' (2) Letterfrom Timothy M. Clancy, Chairperson ofthe Johnson Coun- ty Coalition for Persons with Disabilities, offering this organi- zation's input on issues related to disabilities. (3) Letter from Joy Smith and David Rust expressing support for extending health benefits to domestic partners. .' (4) Letter from James E. Clayton regarding the proposed urban revi- talization plan for the near Southside. . ",', (5) Letter from Susan M. Goodner, M.D., of Coralville, expressing support for extending health care benefits to domestic partners. (6) Letter from Nancy Heerens-Knudson, Physician' s Assistan~, and Ralph Knudson, M.D., of Coralville, expressing support for health care benefits to domestic partners. ' f;\ :~ (7) Letter from the Iowa City Community School District regarding the parking ban on Morningside Drive. (8) Letter from Mona Shaw regarding health care benefits for domes- tic partners. ' . ~ \ (9) Memorandum from the Traffic Engineer regarding parking prohibi- tion on the east side of First A venue from Rochester Avenue to the north end of First Avenue. .k..rd~ ",_....;1' , "1 , "I' Ii! ( ~/II~ ao END ~F CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM NO. 4 - PUBLIC DISCUSSION. tV;1tC4~ ~Jb(,) -0, (1) ~~ I ,_t ~ /.ld MAeA' ~ 46-/V '. I I ~ ~., /'.: ~ q ~ y. " . "I~ )'.....-.....'....'-' . . '."""'".",". '. ..'",.'..' . ,'.e...""."c,,,.,-.c.,..,\"'.....'''''''I''..'' .", I ,. ::',::0";",' " ' '" . . '.' '. ,,' ,:' '.0,' ,.,:';1,""1 .;I:'~""" '" '-j'\\ ' .. " , "'J t:, ~f,'.- ""'~ _:~_ ,~" ",.,' ,(',~.. .:,<:,:,~" ';' ',:~,,~!",:'.~.:,.,\ .',i',' c;i:, -------- .......--, 1:(07'- . <,,~, v "" '",,': ,"""";' "'~', "\,,~,,, l~' , 'I '. -":~'~f<~;":;"~':',~~:~:.,r:-:.~ ': ' :ma"~':"',:''':Ir' ~;::::;j:",.,.. . "', ',' ....~-~-'-'~:, <--.. '__,_,'4 ..:;c~_' City of Iowa City MEMORANDUM ';, '. " Date: March 7, 1994 To:' Mayor and City Council From: City Clerk Re: Additions to the 3/8/94 Council Agenda ,,',: ,! I , \ Letter from John Morrissey regarding the proposed Urban Revitalization Area south of Burlington St. -j ! j ! IDe. Accept the recommendation of the Johnson County, Sesquicentennial Comm. that Bud Louis be appointed as the representative of Iowa City on the Comm. ,',,',', ,.- '- .. J " , ' I I I __,','1 ! .....: ~!': .,.., , ,.'--:,",-,. \\ , '$1 IT " ~ I f" : . If ~ ,,1) ,\ ~:i f ~ ' ,:,iL-':::; fo~kcf If: ()O pfYI ~!7/9if ':< ""'''''''''''~''''-:'''-r:''i. . ". I" , , ( .~ " ' "",,", , " ,,'. t ,,', I , o ",.< :" ;'!'~'i "::-, :::;";:":i,;f';i~ ~.9,:,i:;":,_:,~':;;;,,: " : :'1"""':; \" [J,...,,:., .:,:. "',~:i'~:'I,>J1i;,, """, ,',',' I, .~,fi ...'_... I, I .:\ \--\ \1 \\ '", ,." i I \ I" I --, ., ""r'l ,;>. . , "~l: \'1 ' ,'. '~ ,~. " ..\ ~ '.. " , . .'---'_:: , ' ,...,~"...-,,~,._...., ""'" .,,-,,-..,.'""-..., ,'."'..,,-",... -- " #3 page 1 Horow/ (#3 Consent Calendar) Moved by Pigott, seconded by Kubby (to approve consent calendar as amended). Any discussion. Throg/ I guess I don't know how to phrase this. Can we consider Item #3b(1) separately. I have a question to ask about it. Maybe we can do that right now. Horow/ Why don't we take that out. Actually I would also like to take out Item #3d(7), the letter from Iowa city community School bistrict regarding the parking ban on Morningside drive and discuss those separately. Would council agree to that. Throg/ Yep. Sure. Horow/ And I would like- Karr/ Motion to delete b(1)- Horow/ Item #B(1) and Item #d(7). Karr/ Okay, for separate discussion. So we have a motion on the floor. It has been seconded. Roll call. Yes. Gentry/ On the motion? Oh, I thought you were doing the motion. Horow/ (Go through roll call-yes). All right. Now we will consider Item #3b(1). Jim, do you have a question about this. This, for the public, is setting a date for public hearing on March 29 on the proposition of the issuance of $6,940,000 GO Bonds of Iowa City and providing for publication and notice thereof. Throg/ My question concerns the potion of the resolution that concerns the new Water Treatment Facility and I simply didn't have time to ask about this before hand so this is the only opportunity I have to ask I think. That would include one and half million dollars into the GO Bond for design of the Water Treatment Facility. I don't have any problem with spending money on design of the Plant but I thought we hadn't resolved how to pay for either the Plant or its design whether it be GO Bonds or Revenue Bonds. Atkins/ You have not. Let me explain that to you then. This is an authorizing resolution. It will have to come back to you ultimately before you actually approve sale. When we layout these authorizing resolutions and build or put together the bond perspectives we identify the projects that we would like to finance under the terms and conditions of this GO Bond. This small amount for this particular aspect of the larger project, it was our intention to sell the GO Debt to finance the engineering cost. However, how you pay for it, that is F03894 o l J ,"' . , ",' ---- " liS I'd:, zmci' -, ,'. I,' , " i j J ~ \ ."" ;;:~ , : r I I I I I I , ~ I i , , i , I .~~ .' ~t,; " ;'1' il ,; ,~ L, {c:: 0_ ,".' ' ,.,'Y'i' " , ,''It' ',~' \,\t,'t ." . .~' ,I: , ... .. .. ~ , -, . ':~ ' . ~;~"'_, _n" .,~""';''',~,' ',' '~"".: :;:~_' 'S,'L:' .',';.-, :,';, ,_:,,', #3 page 2 whether you decide to retire it with property tax or water revenue, has not yet been decided. We will occasionally sell GO Debt because we can get a lower interest rate and yet retire that debt by water or sewer revenues. You are correct, that has not been decided yet. Throg/ Okay, thanks, steve. Kubby/ Along the same lines. Curb ramp improvements for $50,000, we have been doing that through Road Use Taxes in the past. Atkins/ Yes. And if you will recall in the seven year plan we dramatically expanded that. This $50,000 is intended to come from a GO Debt. We have another $50,000. We are doing $100,000 a year instead of $25,000 under our seven year plan. Kubby/ And are we expected to always do half from Road Use Taxes and half from GO Bonds. Atkins/ I don't have it committed to memory but I think that is how we have laid the thing out, Karen. Here is $700,000 at $100,000 a year. But I can look it up for you. Horow/ Any other questions. You want us to come back to that, steve. Atkins/ No. Karen is satisfied. Karr/ Madam Mayor, before we go to the next one. This is a resolution. So I do need a motion and a second to approve it. Horow/ All right. Moved by Baker, seconded by Lehman ((#b(l)). Any further discussion. Atkins/ May I comment before you vote. I did check, Karen. It is 50 and 50 each year for the next seven years. Horow/ Any other discussion. Roll call- (yes). I would like us to go to #3d(7), the letter from the President of the School Board regarding the parking ban on Morningside drive. For the public, Mrs. Champion has is writing on behalf of the Iowa city School District in regards to the parking ban on Morningside Drive. Money has been allocated for a new parking lot for City High School and the construction on that lot will begin this summer, 1994. Parking lot will be completed and ready for use at the beginning of the 1994-95 school year. We are asking that the parking ban on Morningside Drive be repealed by city Council until the end of the school year. Thank you for your consideration. Sincerely Yours, Connie Champion. F03894 -, --~ ~ T ,~ ,0 " ,~, - ']'.'.... , , ' " , . -" .- ., ,.' . I I 10 I , I t. l..) lci ,~:;;j~~j" I' , '. r ,~~ \ i ,....." r;~>.::.; : r I , I~ I I ~, 'l.' : " I, ~~ if ,\; h I" ([ ~-- ..' ;" ,~ r' .. ,", " ,.t,\t, ",\ , " "" , '.' "" ..', . , ".,\ '~.,., " , ... _ ..._,_..,,~, - .~,~., ,..'_".:...'_.,;c' "... ,,'r,,'. #3 page 3 Baker / Sue, how many spots are they talking about on that lot. Does anybody know. Horow/ It is like about- Atkins/ 200, I thought. Baker/ Substantial. Horow/ There are blo separate lots. The design, because of the terrain, it is separated almost into two different terraces and one will entrance and exit onto Court and the other will entrance and exit from the circle. Throg/ It is a substantial amount but I guess it won't accommodate all of the cars that students drive out to city High in. Lehman/ Do we know how many spots we are talking about on Morningside Drive. Horow/ No. Nov/ No where near the 180. Atkins/ Don't hold me to it. 18 seems to be a number that sticks in my mind. I am trying to think of that general area. Horow/ We are talking two blocks. A two block area. The 1600 block and the 1700 block as I recall. Atkins/ It is something in that neighborhood if I recall. Horow/If you recall we were discussing this in terms of whether or not the school board actually did appropriate the money and gave us a time definite in terms of when the parking lot would be built. The idea for rescinding this for a temporary period of time would be let the students know before they leave on semester break this Friday that there would be parking on Morningside after semester break. But only until the end of school. Nov/ I think you have the wrong friday. I think there is another week in there. Horow/ I think you are right. Yeah, you are right. The 19th. Kubby/ I guess I would like us to also entertain an idea of talking about rescinding the parking ban on Glendale Road except where there is safety consideration and to talk about Third and Dunlap because they are all kind of brought about by the same F03894 -....,.,- . - "'~:~ - .' .' u_ ':Q., J': I ,"' , .. @ " )5 IrS:, , '",-, ._,. . 'I Ii. .~ , \ ,. ( , ,\ '~"\ \ \ ~ : I ~ ~' I' I , I: .~~ :iJ " !}.; .<\ i;r~ , .,.'~' j' ": .' ,t>. '. "\t' ,.-\\'t.'; '., .. ,~, ",I ';,.'. \ ... . '. ...,"...:: ...~" '. -'..','- :-_.._~...',' -'.'... '.'..., ' . .';.,..--., '.,.""_..",,.,;.,."'..', #3 page 4 issue. I kind of think in terms of being fair that we need to behave equally on all of the neighborhood streets so that not one neighborhood is negatively impacted. That it is spread out a little bit more. Nov/ On Dunlap Court they have parking on both sides. There is no way an emergency vehicle can get in there. We really have to bring that down to one side only. Kubby/ I would like to propose that on Third and Dunlap that we prohibit parking along the cuI de sacs because it is hard for service vehicles to get around them. Each cuI de sac has a tree that the vehicle ends up hitting as it goes around. But on the other sites that we prohibit parking on one side of the street eight to five, Monday through Friday. So there is parking on one side of the street at all times but not eight to five, Monday through Friday, so that service vehicles can get in. Nov/ Even on Dunlap Court they had parking on one side only the vehicles could get in but two sides it is impossible. Pigott/ The Glendale Road issue- Nov/ We also need to do better enforcement. I get phone calls from people who say that the cars are blocking the driveway, I can't get my car out, and I called the school and I called the police and nothing is happening. We need to do something about it. Pigott/ I am concerned about the safety on Glendale Road. There is that path that goes up to the High School and you know I think the residents in that area have legitimate concerns regarding blocking that pathway and having kids come out into the street if cars are parked there and I don't like the idea of blocking that area off on that side of the road anyway with cars when that is a possibility. Kubby/ I talked with Jim Brachtel today about that and asked him what he would recommend and he said that if we want to allow parking brought back on Glendale but want to protect that pedestrian access that 150 feet on each side of that sidewalk would be a way to protect. Horow/ Well I think we have a number of options here. Karen and I have talked about this. The school board specifically asked us to rescind the parking ban temporarily on Morningside Drive until the end of the school year. They do not ask for the other areas. Whether or not this is because the student population has kind of accepted this at this point, I don't F03894 o ,0 , '. ..' f .. o I ! ' js ~d, --',. .... ," ,: -, .~", " zzm - ' ':," ., ,~:,',): ,I,' :, ""~~:\'l: "',,',"1, ".. , .~, A " , , l,; , '<, ',; ::/\ , .' " ,,, " ,.' ',., ,:" ," " - ,,-' , , ...._._:_ __" ';'Ml.~-,-~::..:.,~:.i,~~ .~.~-.;"i ';;-i~:,:';: ".OJ _, I.;~:, :..::'";,, ";".J.';, ;..; ;" ~ '..,,,,.. ._".' ._.'_... ,_ .:...~~ _ ..._, >. ,_-._. _ -. '" i #3 page 5 know. But what is your pleasure. Would you like to have a vote on the whole area or specifically Morningside Drive. Baker/ Would it be Morningside Drive and a separate vote on the rest of the areas. Morningside Drive I have no problem with. Kubby/ Each one separately. i ,: Gentry/ May I have some clarification. Are you deciding on accepting the letter which is a routine matter on the consent calendar which is d(7). '....,' ! Horow/ It is not a matter of accepting it, Linda, and I need some guidance on this. What I see is at this point in the consent calendar, because the letter has been accepted. Gentry/ You pulled it out for discussion. Horow/ We are talking about action on it. In terms of achieving a cooperation between school board and city council. To be specific, we are talking three months from the middle of March to the middle of June on this. That there would be permitted parking where we right now have prohibited it. As soon as school is out the prohibition will go back on again. And in the amount of time that the students are allowed to park there we will work on vigorous enforcement and the students will know that they will be ticketed. Pigott/ It is just one side of Morningside Drive if I am not mistaken. Is that correct. Horow/ Right. Gentry/ Are you attempting to take formal action under the traditional Brachtel reference tonight. Directing Jim Brachtel- T\, . I I I I ! I I I,. . f~ II J ;,.l~/ ,!JI ~ L_~i Baker/ To prepare whatever is necessary to do it. Horow/ Not item 9, Linda. We are talking about item 7. Kubby/ We can't act tonight. Gentry/No. You can direct Jim Brachtel to bring something back to you. Yes, that would be the appropriate mechanism. NOV/ We can act, then, at our next meeting. ' Gentry/ Yes. F03894 I ,.. . _.A, ,'I' :('~~ :'1 ._; _ _ I ]' :":"0' ,',' ",:, ' \',', ,',' , ',.-", - :',:' ",-".'", .'1 ' ,:,',:: :'\' "", \l~"~":lo""i,.. ~ ..), ,&.. .~. , " ) ".. '.. .., ,- I ~ "'" ,;j ."- l21'ml '~ - ' (' ( ,\ r , \ ~ ..,( : I I " I I I .~\ " I! II ~i'~j l , ',~'/:" i: " " fl', ;:~, I I",. ',I, I l._ : ~, .' ~, ': " " ~ . ':~t;,\'::~ .. ~ -,',:.. ;~. \,' , ."' ~ ' .....;; " ., , . , ~-.~..,-~:~..'..:.'".-.,_., .'........,.L." " " .,'_, . ___ ...,_ ,~......"." ,,_~, ,~"\"H., ,'.-'..,.. -" ....'~,. :.' ',ioU". #3 page 6 Baker/ And it would go into affect immediately upon the vote. Gentry/ Yes. Horow/ This is- Go ahead. Lehman/ The letter from Connie was regarding Morningside Drive only. Is that correct. We are talking about 18 spaces, approximately. Somewhere in that neighborhood. Atkins/ I am just digging back on some kind of recollection. It seemed like it was something like that, Ernie. Lehman/ Doesn't seem very significant to me and if we are not talking about all the rest of the area I really don't think we should single out Morningside Drive. Nov/ That is what we are basically saying. But that is the one that they wanted. So if we are only talking about 18 spaces perhaps we should not consider any. Kubby/ We can do more that what they requested. Lehman/ I realize that or we can do nothing. Throg/ It is important for us to not forget the letters we have received from Kathy and Jeff Mccullough and any other neighbors along Morningside talking about potential hazards to their children. If I remember their letters correctly they said there is something like 18 small children along Morningside and so they are worried about cars being driven through quickly and so on and we don't want to jump into this decision. I am just reflecting upon this. Kubby / Some of us have talked- I mean Naomi was talking about a bunch of tradeoffs that everybody is doing. The school district has taken responsibility to try to alleviate some parking problems. The neighborhood may have to compromise for three more months. And what we can do besides taking way the ban is to also do more enforcement to try to accommodate the neighborhood concerns. So it seems like everybody is doing a little bit to help resolve the problem and so at least a chunk of it can be resolved. Horow/ The process is: 1- We need acceptance of the letter. And then 2-Direction to Jim. The chair would entertain a motion to accept the letter, #3b(7). Moved by Kubby, seconded by Nov. Any further discussions. Pigott/ I just wanted to say that I talked to the Mccullough's as F03894 o ':.'..-.9., ." ,,"' . " ", - o I , I . "')'~,lbi, '.'."1,'.'....'( " '" ,', - .--- ,I;' .l.:!i'!Ii:l:l' i ' " I \. ''! ~.~ , , , . i : i ;,,' " ,J "! R tl n [I, , :C_~ .. ..:,',V" , , , '."to ,.i,1 ,.,.'t'. .. " '" . ',' " ,~ji ~ '~.. . ;.,'_,._.",_,,'. ,,_.J.',::,'.:., """....... --,,_.; ._,.."--"~..."-,,,,-,,,:,',,,-;,;~.; " ',' :,::", .-......:.' -':-::,' ,;,~' """ : #3 page 7 well and I think their concerns are pretty legitimate and valid and I am afraid of jumping into something when their are so many young kids around there and in some way I wonder if the burden should be on the older people who know driving those streets and parking on those streets as opposed to the young children who play in that area. And there is a tradeoff but I would just like to talk about that for a minute. Kubby/ But with this letter we are just accepting the letter. We are acting on it. Pigott/ I just wanted to insert that part into the general discussion. Kubby/ So, we need to still tell Jim what we want to- Throg/ I am also remembering that in the letters that we have received from Dale Hibbs and the petition we received from Chad Clark and the 170 or so students and the statement from city High Student Body President and so on. I don't recall hearing any clear discussion on their part about steps that the students are taking to control the increase in traffic in ,the city High area. So my concern there is that we might be able to deal with this problem now in the short run but it seems to have gotten worst over the last few years and it is likely to continue to worsen. So, in the spirit of wanting- seeking each party to somehow to give a little and get a little I am wondering if we can request the student body. If there is some formal way to ask the student body to kind of program in ways to reduce the increase the traffic. Kubby/ To do more programming. Horow/ I agree with Jim. I totally agree with him and I think a letter would certainly be the minimal amount we could do to the student senate asking them to understand the cooperation that is going on right now but that it really means that not only this year but next year that the student senate truly needs to grapple with this problem. Good idea, Jim. Pigott/ And maybe one of the things that have been mentioned was the athletic programs and the after school programs and perhaps they could talk as groups as football players or whatever to coordinate their schedules. I don't know. Kubby/ Maybe the letter can encourage them to get the group that they solicited from that one meeting at the city High Library. I know I signed up for that and did some follow up and was told that I would be contacted and I haven't been so maybe we could encourage them to get that group moving forward. F03894 - :::'-~-'- ,\ )",';' ;Q. .. " ,h'" i I I ,,"' . li\ i"" I .. ~'S 10 , "',,'."..,, .--j,:;'\',";',:" ,~,," ...~ ,;:.,:.';- \, ~-, '..,;... , Y,' ., , :,,' ",", ""' . .,' ,. > , '.';':~t. ~,'~'f,i.:, ' ., .',..-..", 'y, .;', , :~,. ::""i':, ' . ,..- I, \ , " , I \' \0.... ~; " ~J I' I' :,([. .-. 0 'I , . ~' ~.:~..;.~~U::..~ .~. ,;,,:,~~:~""';;~:'~~:,",~~:~~,,';~,~~,c.~;L~,".~:;;;,,~,,;~.,-,.,,;:....,,~~~w...,"-., ~",~~."".~...".~__:__,_.' #3 page 8 Horow/ Okay, that is a good idea. I totally agree. Throg/ Sue, I would also like to make one other very short point about this. Either last week or two week before that we received a letter from a gentleman that lives on Third Avenue in which he blamed the parking problems in his and other neighborhoods on city High and the city. He wrote as if the students are enemies who are invading his neighborhood and he expressed irritation about having his personal freedom curtailed by parking restrictions. And I take a very different view and I imagine many other councilors do. Kids who attend city High are not enemies or invaders. They are children. My son goes to city High. He is not an invader. So- Horow/ Is he cutting through the back lawn of this man's- Throg/ No, because when I drive him to school we don't get off there. Horow/ You drive him to school. Throg/ At times, yes. If it were me I would enjoy the chance to create a pathway through my yard for him. Nov / But if you had peonies and rose bushes that were being trampled you would be a little upset. Horow/ Let's pull this back together again. We have a first and a second. This is a mere motion. All those in favor signify by saying aye (ayes) Now we get down to the of the whole thing and that is the instructions to' Jim. It has been suggested that we take it piece by piece. The chair would entertain a motion to rescind the parking ban on Morningside Drive until the end of the school year. Nov/ One side of Morningside drive only. Horow/ Right. Kubby/ I don't like the until the end of the year part. Nov/ No. The end of the school year. Kubby/ I don't like the end of the school year. Nov/ Why. Horow/ I have gone around and around about this. If they are F03894 I ,I ,., ., "-~'~ <- , :',."... , ' " '" i' ',,~ ..,i",,~~:~,),::::;:'~',~-.":r ,:"":,:."",.,,. ~'" ' " . , ~' , ':. -':._,-" ~ 'i ' " 'ri\" \j;/ .' :'-.., I,', , .'~,:~:: " ," .,,",..,' ",' 'J o I '.;., ,,,,-,'-1" ' .j ',:,'- , ,~, , I , I .;:::", '" 1\",' . " ~", , ",..,... ,'. ,',',". '. '~t\ ~'j' ~, '. ." ", . " . "', :'....". .., ".', ~ , ,.' , . , ...., ":~ ':, . -,- -, ,.-. " " #3 page 9 asking for it until the end of the school year. They are not going to see students during the summer parking out there. Kubby/ It is not just students who park on the street. Lehman/ I think I see your point. You are saying rescind it period. If we are going to rescind it, rescind it and don't stop at the end of the school year because the pressure won't be on during the summer anyway. Kubby/ And other times. I have changed my mind. I think that these decisions should be made on the basis of safety and neighborhood concerns. I think we should rescind the ban totally. I might be the only person so it is no big deal. Nov/ I think neighbors have legitimate concern to ban parking on one side of the street. I really do. Kids there need the safety. Baker/ (Can't hear) Kubby/ What did you say Larry. Baker/ I was confused by something you just said. It ought to be based on safety and neighborhood concerns so you would vote to-you would not have the restriction. Kubby/ I think there are other ways we can deal with the neighborhood concerns. , i \ i .1 ' Baker/ The neighborhood, their concerns are getting the parking rescinded. Isn't that right. Kubby/ From their perspective, that is their view that that is the way to take care of the problem. Baker/ The safest possible arrangement from their point of view. Just- I : I , I , I Kubby/ I don't think it is worth a twenty minute discussion- Horow/ Chair would entertain a motion to rescind the parking ban on one side of Morningside Drive. We need four nods of a head. Nov/ I don't know. What does Linda say. Gentry/ Are you going to do this now on your own authority or are you going to direct Jim- Nov/ Going to direct Jim. Need a motion. ~ F03894 -"""- ,;~-- ~~- .L ___' ,,:/q,.),,'U .~ ,',.. . '\ ",', ":\" I'''''' D is ,,'.0.:, ,,"" I ~' -. -".,"--;::" " i ,I ~-....- " (--:...... l C"':\ i \1. ,,1\ I , I . I i ! , i i ~, I . ,. i ,I J i I ,\ ' ' ;-Coh ' , ,( -" j,'~",J>I,,',~' ~i' fl: r: ~ ''''''''1 'C",: ., , ,;- ,~: ',;"', .f,', ' '''''''\'1 . ,~ :' " , '" '. '<'~' , I I " "1 ' ',' ~ , , , : '~~" ,"' , , . " ',' , ' ".,_...,'".,-',-_.._.~,,'-': . ::'.' - . .' , , , .. '.. ._"_'___~.'."_"t'-"-',_,:"-,~ ~',,"<:.;.;,.',"'.';.:." .' ,,,~,,'~' ,C-,.,'''-: #3 page 10 Gentry/ I would appreciate it, yes. Horow/ I am looking for a maker of a motion. Baker/ I would move that we direct the city Traffic Engineer to prepare a plan to rescind parking ban on one side of Morningside Drive until the end of the school year. Horow/ Is there a second. Nov/ Second. Horow/ Moved by Baker, seconded by Nov. Any further discussion. Throg/ I have a suggestion. It has to do with sending a letter to the neighbors along Morningside Drive indicating what we are doing and why. Horow/ Right. Definitely. Kubby/ And talking about the increased enforcement during that time period. Horow/ All right. Any other discussion. All those in favor signify by saying aye (ayes, Lehman - no.) Carried with Lehman voting no. All right, the next motion. Kubby/ I move that we direct Jim to rescind the ban on parking on Glendale, looking at safety issues on cuI de sacs and pedestrian access. Nov/ Also I would like to limit that one to one side of the street. Kubby/ Yes. Horow/ And that is until the end of the school year. Kubby / I would make that part of the motion only because the majority so wishes. Nov/ I am seconding her motion. Horow/ Moved by Kubby, seconded by Nov to rescind the parking on Glendale, looking at the safety issues on the cuI de sacs, this is to be one side of the street, Glendale only, and to go until the end of the school year. All those for- Discussion. Throg/ Wait a minute. I am a little concerned about this because we have been asked by the school board to act on Morningside F03894 o o "I,' , ~ . '... ""'0, ,,~.., "', "I.,.~': !O"q" ~ ~] " 'I"'" , ~',"'" "".\'. . , ~':"~:' J '., ~lIDfl, " \\' '! :,' '.~~ , "h~-I.'.", : ~ '. ,.",.... , " " I .1 ,'.', ' ~ , " " P' ::1, "', ' . . ,'-' ", ',. ......:',:':,;,<-.-i,:,: ...._'.:, ,,~,,-,::,., ,,' "-'~"'-~,,-,~ I j' #3 page 11 but not Glendale. So my guess is that the neighbors along Glendale don't have a clue that we are considering doing this. So, my guess is that when we do it they are not going to be very happy and legitimately so because they won't know that we are doing it. I ), I I I I Nov! We will have to send them a letter. Baker! We are not doing it tonight. Pigott! We are directing- Throg! They don't know we are even remotely considering doing this. Baker! In three weeks we could vote it down. But without the resolution we don't have the opportunity. We may have the same concerns and not want to support it because there was not up front- ,',' Nov! Few months. Pigott! six months. Horow! About November. @ Lehman! How long have we had the parking restrictions on these streets. Lehman! So we are talking about November, December, January, February. We have lived with it and got along quite well with it for four months. , \ Nov! But they had more parking at the school. They are just recently started construction and they have took off some of the parking that we had last fall. Lehman! AII,right. Horow! All those in favor signify by saying aye (Ayes-Kubby & Nov) . Opposed (ayes). Fails. I ' ~ , Karr! For the record it was 2-5. Horow! Yes, with Kubby and Nov voting yes. Kubby! So do people feel the same about Third and Dunlap. , \, Horow! Yeah, I feel the same about Third and Dunlap. Nov/ Why are you (can't hear) parking restrictions. We have not F03894 ! ~(-- ~ -- ""="'JI )":'" '.... : ,.'"",'i;Q,. ,'.". !'\ .. '~.:...::i'" ' ,\~~_)... ?s 1 tEj; ,..', ' - ,:,:'::_'~' ,\' iEiizi', ,...."l, I ,j \ \ ,,:>j r.:.:. I I ~ . I : I II , 1 ~~ 'J 'JI t~ ~'I, ,., ,. " ., J,":'l. " ,,:,:;'\t.:.\'t.". f" "'," '. i:., '. '. ; " ",,'" ,.' .','.'-,\ ~ "," '.,' . ,-- " " " , ' ':.1 . ' ,~'. ."~ ~.".. . ,~:,.L......"..,;" ~"'~, ,~~~'.,~:2.~~':...' ~;;i ::.!~~.~,:':.:i;,;:,,;;~,,~'; ,:~;'::~l. ::, , , . " ..:;,.:!,~ ~',,,.,,,:,,,. .<.' ;:'. ,.-'.', - ,~,', ,-'.....', .. _.'~ .--.., - --.. .._..~,_.,-,..-.---,._-, ~ ',...'- #3 page 12 done- Kubby / This one may be a little different because there was a resolution a month ago on our agenda. We postponed it so there are no restrictions. People can now park on both sides on parts of Dunlap and Third and there is-it is more narrow than Glendale or the cuI de sacs. Throg/ And there have been some letters sent out to neighbors. NOV/ The recycling truck cannot get in there. The people had one recycling pickup in December when there was no snow and they had a second one at the end of February because there was too much snow and school was closed. Throg/ They can't get into the cuI de sacs. Nov/ They can't get in there. Pigott/ So, can we restrict it in the cuI de sac. Nov/ They do not get picked up their recyclable. Baker/ They currently have parking on that street that has created a problem on two sides. So the motion or the discussion is to restrict. That is different. Nov/ To restrict from eight to five, on one side of the street so that they cannot be blocking access vehicles that really need to get in. Horow/ And no parking at all in the cuI de sacs. Nov/ Yes. I don't think so. The people that I have talked to on Dunlap Court area, we can allow parking on one side and the trucks can still get in there. Jim has to do his survey but he can do that and get back to us. But they said that if parking were allowed on one side only the recycling truck could get in there. Kubby/ But not around the cuI de sac- Nov/ On Dunlap. I don't know. That is not what I heard. We should have- Kubby/ The motion can be to have Jim investigate what the appropriate thing to do on the cuI de sacs are. That we can get a good answer. Horow/ Karen, would you accept the motion maker status. F03894 o "0, ",I ",'; t.'." ';, .,1'" :,1' ; . ~ l ",' I I '/" I @ , I ' I \ ! . r " 8 tb \uO,' "",,,,,,,,,..,,,),,. ,'...'"" ''''--,-,,', ::'-',':'i' """"'. ...._""'''1','. :~<,:.,:j:' " .., ,', ~c: .:!" ' ',~-'~ \\1, ,. . " '~', ..,~; ',:.00_.. ~ : I I I " " " , ,~ ' ~~'.v, ~',~ ~'I " . ~ .1 L_...; ,I, o .. :.,~. " ',;", :':::.,:':~~F~~.'t":',>. , , . " ',-' , ,..::,: _ ,:,i~:-,-__,_;...~'j,::;:':}',",:',;L:~.....~~,~::.:.~ '~,<>' ,~':;" #3 page 13 Kubbyj I would be honored. Novl I want to second this. Horowj Great. Is there any further discussion. All those in favor signify by saying aye (ayes). All right. We have three actions for Jim. They have all carried. I would like to- Kubbyj They did not all carry. Horowj The second one did not carry. Thank you. You are right. Novl They are putting parking back, if this goes through, onto Morningside drive and then removing it from Dunlap and Third. Kubbyj Partially. Novl We may have cancelled out what we did. We may have shifted it. I just want people to understand that may have happened. Horowj Remember, this is only until the end of school. Let's move on on this. \ F03894 ~ ; .'. '; ,",,' .- ~ I.y, , ,i-' ":'..,';.:;;.::...:"';'\,'..Cl;..; ,::"."';.:.,....'T.~.5:i, Y' 0'0-'\' rl: ,~ ',," ~:'.".', ,'<',:, ., , .' ';1,,', "" 1rntJJ " ",., r.-~ I, "~ ~ I'" I I I , I I I ~'. l , I, "J ' I,,,j, ~':, !iiI )" ," ~.r 1 " '!; " ,. , II cUt.. trim. .~...,\ :. " ,. ,_' y'l '" . .'~t;, : " ,_\ !,~. ',' '. '....\ \ ".. . ::' ..._ _'4'.."" k""~;"''''''''~' 0 ''''~" ',_ #4 page 1 Horow/ (#4) Public discussion. Harold Engen/ I am representing the Senior Center commission. I have four short i.tems, Madam mayor and council members. The first one is the proclamation you made regarding Women's History Month and we have already progressed through two events. Karen KUbby, I believe, was there Friday and presented some of her wares and today C. Vivian Stringer received the Iowa Woman of the Year Award. It was a very nice presentation and there was a nice crowd there today. We will continue with the month of acti vi ties. I have another announcement to make. We are very proud to let you know that the Governor's Volunteer Recognition Awards which we made May 6 have already announced that the outstanding Program and Special Project Award goes to the Senior Center T.V. from Iowa City/Johnson county and Susan Rogusky is here this evening and she is the chair of the volunteers. We are very proud of that. We do have one item that I wanted to bring you up to date and that is you may recall when I was here a month or two ago we had proposed studio fees for the Senior Center. I happened to be chairing the Commission meeting in February and t~e had about 25-30 people there presenting their views on studio fees. As a result of that we received a number of letters and we proposed a moratorium on the fees until we could receive all of the recommendations from the persons who use the Senior Center and discussion with the Council of Elders and other groups in there. We will make a decision on this at our March meeting. I did want you to know that we do have a moratorium in operation right now and we have a lot of happy campers over there. There was some disturbed people for that. The other item that I have is-I want to say that at the Commission meeting we have a good old town hall meeting and a lot of people got up and gave their views and they were heard and I think the Commission members appreciated them coming in and it was a good way of establishing two way communication within the Senior Center. I was very proud of the people that did come in. The other thing is that I wanted to present to you tonight the transportation survey that we have completed. The ADA guidelines, coupled with the rising costs of providing SEATS services to the city and Johnson county. There was a discussion on that on how we should provide or who should provide services and it motivated the Center staff to call together providers of the services of the elderly. They had questions and they decided maybe there was a problem and in order to look at that they thought we might produce a survey which would generate information that would be helpful for the funding bodies to determine the transportation needs of the elderly. 314 volunteer hours went int9 this and out of that 314 hours we had 243 of those hours provided by the gentleman who is seated me and I want to present him to the council this F03894 o o /:, ."" , "' ","" "',' I , , I ",' . , , ,- r ., f, S ~:5 ' 10, '.~, 3.~'in1 " ~( \ \ ,..,..,. r,~'~~ ( : I I i" I I , , ~, i"'. : ' d. '\il ~~'~ ,~ t~.,~'" :,~ ~'~ , ~ I '-- [, 0 , _liI .' ~, ,~: ; , " ' , ";'" , .,1'.\1;, ., , ~, '" . ,.', , -:,.: '. . ,-.,,,,.-,..~:',,,~ ',-".',",,,-,,:"...,.. ,..~;,.t;.'":':""",,_,,, ,''-:.". #4 page 2 evening. I have filed a copy with the city clerk and you will be receiving a detailed copy. The Post had some general pictures in there that you can have. Pigott/ Thank you for your hard work. Horow/ Ymal, the city of Iowa city and the Iowa City/Johnson county senior Center would like to present you with this certificate of appreciation for outstanding service and commitment toward a high quality of life to our Senior Center and the seniors in our community. Thank you very much. Engen/ Thank you. If you have any questions, we would be certainly glad to take them at this time. Horow/ We will look forward to reading it. Anyone else care to address council. John Morrissey/ 1001 Kirkwood Avenue. I recall last week I spoke to you on another matter and at that time I lived at 1218 Highland Court. As a consequence of my remarks I have had to move. So I wanted to come here and tell you abut that and also bring an action item to your attention. Last August I reached a private agreement with a legal tenant of 1218 Highland Court to share those premises with her. We both read the lease and the lease did not seem to address the particular situation that we found ourselves agreeing to. I parked my vehicle in front of the building. I had my name on the mailbox. I assisted the building owner's employees in moving kitchen appliances when some new vinyl was put down. And I walked past his front door everyday, twice a day, on my way to and from d.t. So it wasn't like I was a mystery tenant I don't think. As a result of my comments last week, Mr. Bruce Glasgow, who owns the building had his staff call the very next morning and tell me that I must come down and sign a lease and fill out a tenant information sheet that he requires of all of his tenants. Now his staff says that as far as they can determine the lease does not cover the situation that we found ourselves in. However, I was willing to sign the lease but the tenant information sheet has kind of a curious clause there that requires me to have my parents co-sign this lease. Which is kind of a problem because they are both dead. Anyway, I have since found another place to reside and I am happily ensconced at a new address. So now that you know the size of the ax that I am carrying tonight and how I have sharpened it, I want to bring to your attention an action item. Mr. Glasgow's building at 1218 Highland Court is next door to a day care center called the Jack and Jill Nursery School. And there are 25-30 happy kids that go to school there everyday. And I enjoyed watching them from my desk in the afternoon wilen F03894 .~ - ,) , 0 ,.'.' ,'" , ',..'," ,', , , " ' - ~ " l':!;. IT -. ..' . ..:~---, - I .'} t.. .. ,.) I I " ',' n. \J '" rd, "I. " I ., " I -,' ,-".-,-\" ,.,.;.' ~, '~. ''', ,.,;' !: ~ , :-, '~f .--....; " M, " ":" ~ ',~ , "t:'. ,~ ,,01,\ l' . ,':: ",- ;,:0 , " ,< "',' , , ,~ , ,\~."\ .. , , '"'"i'" ..' . . ",\ , - , ' -1,.,'.'_': ",',:';"...~','.: ,,:, ;'_~ ,::"'_',.i ",,:.. ,,~::'~a:.:,~, ;';'"L:':':l'_'",,,,,,_,,,,,,,, ' #4 page 3 I , I I I I I I I \ I lived there. Mr. Glasgow owns other properties on town and those other properties are experiencing some appliance failures. I went by this evening and there are four refrigerators in the back of his building. There is a water heater, there is a dishwasher and a oven that have been there for at least a week. No precautions have been taken to secure these old appliances so that children won't be climbing into them and playing with them or pulling them down on top of each other. And it seems to be that it might be in the city's interest to send someone by tomorrow morning to see if Mr. Glasgow can't be persuaded to do something with these things. This is not an uncommon occurrence. During my tenancy there have been one or two appliances sitting outside in the back of his property every week. As I say he owns a number of properties and there seem to be some failures which are to be expected but he is clearly not taking reasonable precautions to see that people aren't hurt by these appliances. It also appears that last fall there was some remodeling done in this building and as far as I can determine the assessor has not been notified that a building permit was ever issued for that construction. Whether it was of a magnitude that requires a permit or not I don't know. Thank you. Horowl Anybody else care to address council. Grace Trifarol I am President of the University of Iowa Animal Coalition and I had submitted the request that the Great American Meatout be proclaimed for March 20 and I want to thank Mayor Horow and council members for proclaiming the Great American Meatout for March 20. On behalf of the U. of I. Animal Coalition and the Environmental Coalition and the Tall Grass (can't hear) we would like to invite you to a Veggie Fest that we are having this sunday at the unitarian Universalist Church, 10 South Gilbert at 5:30 PM. There will be a lot of delicious vegetarian dishes, live music from local bands and some art from local activists. I hope you can come. It is a conscious raising event. " I () J , )! t:7 I, Throgl Grace, where is that again. Grace I It will be at 10 South Gilbert. I I I I , I . ~ . I . i ,I II ~, J KubbYI Many of us are going to be out of town. Horowl I would like though to give you the proclamation if you will accept it. ;' ~ Grace I Thank you very much. Horowl Is there anyone else who would like to address council. F03894 },.Ii ~, ( :" I '- 'c- 0 _ ,- .,: ~ '"'~. ' "IMIII; ,- ",.. " .."0,, :',,! \,.'.-: )"'.,...'..".'. r ",'_' -':, '...."', ";'" '. ,'" :', :'~ ,'.';'; :,' ' ""1'"'-''' I" is ,1'0: ''""..'. ,',"I '," ...'" ,',. --,....,--,',,'.' ~\J, 'I': ':,~ " '.-'",,-,,','-,,,",,,, '.-,;'--".-" ,",. .,,' .-.',:...._._..__..:......"I-",.I"'U..".....'..,...<."...._______~_,_... " #4 page 4 Close the public hearing. "!' " Let's move on to P/z matters. -"" -, ..! ,I , , ,I ~' ,,; r, "1! ,.~-.. \ , \ ~' . ",. , ,~ '/ ' I ~ I I I I L I r. , (' l,.....,j .~~ '01 F03894 , ,', ~l o \,;..,: " ~', ' ::1,', """"0' ':'.',' :.. ' ", ?"\t.:\; j,',' ':".',;,."." '.':;".. "~' "; or" '::' .' ":', ~ ,\' ~" <,' to :,~ ,: '" -"," , \ .... . , , " , 1 .1 1'\\, , ~, I , ."1."."'.. ".", 15 'ld, ~,'~:.: ,," I """'i'~"\':":'\~;~' ,';': 2"""""', . 'I ' ~~i'," ' '.." . , ,\' ,'" .., ,', , ~ . '.....~li;I\". " ' . t';, ",' -',',' " " . ,,><......:.,", '. ~\~.>, . " . . ',,' , -" .' :,' " .. -:,' : '.:...;..;.._~.:....:..",w.'.......u:.....:Jt.;:.:;t;'.'--'.,::.-<.~:~.:"..:(."'..i,.:,.~;,......'.:-.~__'"..:._,__'._..__ Agenda Iowa City City Council Special Council Meeting March 8, 1994 Page 4 ITEM NO.5- PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS. a. Consider setting a public hearing for March 29, 1994, on an ordinance amending the Zoning Ordinance by changing the use regulations for an approximate 7,500 square foot parcel of land located in the 1300 qlock south of Sheridan Avenue from 1-1 to RS-8. (REZ94-0002) Comment: The Planning and Zoning Commission will consider the rezoning of a 50' x 150' former electric power substation site at its March 3, 1994, meeting. In a letter dated February 28, 1994, property owner James O'Brien has requested expedited consideration of the ~, proposed rezoning. The Commission and staff recommendations should be available by March 29, 1994. ~(,..; .-'1 ,:;;.J \ ' \ : \ \ \, '." if' I' ~" " ",' Action: 1Z Mbd~/ ~n(d/1(/ att~L4/ b. Consider an ordinance amending the Zoning Ordinance to revise Section 36-20.5, Central Business Support (CB-5) Zone requirements. (First Considerationl Comment: At its February 17, 1994, meeting, the Planning & Zoning Commission, by a vote of 5-0, recommended approval of amendments to the CB-5 Zone. The Commission's recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in a staff memorandum dated February 17, 1994. No comments were received at the March 1 public hearing on this item. Action: c. Consider an ordinance repealing the vacation of the southern 97 feet of the north-south alley in Block 102 bounded by Clinton, Burlington, Dubuque and Court streets. (V AC94.0002) (First Consideration) Comment: At its February 3, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning Commission, by a vote of 6-0, recommended approval of the repealing of the vacation. The Commission's recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the staff report dated February 3, 1994. No comments were received at the March 1 public hearing on this item. Action: c/!al.1 .I ,t~ /#(;(/;/1 E $.J/1J'lMI.J ;/~ o ,',-', '\, '.,'".: ';,1 ': " ,.. ':'f a I , " \' i " ',' i5,'> 'I' 1 " ..I....',::,'i 0,,, Ii i, ..,..!,'::.' . ~;/',e .., ~;", ," : i ,i , -; ,~ "k \ \ ~ r~ I ~l I I I, . I~~ , i llJ ,.~ ;, *,/1 ., j~ !, ,"". p. ~ l:C~ qJf- 3bfO " .",,',. ',:",:' ,~; i'.. , , ,')W:, '~ ~ :. ,. i~. , .. '\ ,1-' '", " .~ , "~ :'...., , ~.. : '''\ , "l,. . " " j' ',1,_,-'" ,,' , ' " ", < ,," " ,-' . '.. ,_,___~,,,,~,:,"_--A''''''''I'';'\:Jd.'.o,'''''''''=~;.,",''''v,,,,,,,,,,';''......:.._.,.__.~ ___ _ ._ . Agenda Iowa City City Council Special Council Meeting March 8, 1994 Page 5 d. Consider an ordinance amending the Zoning Ordinance by changing the use regulations for a 12.5 acre tract of land located west of Sycamore Street and south of Burns Avenue from ID-RS to RS-5. IREZ93-0014l (Second consideration) Comment: At its January 20, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning Commission, by a vote of 7-0, recommended approval of the requested rezoning, subject to conditions. The Commission's recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the staff report dated January 6, 1994. No comments were received at the February 15, 1994, public hearing on this item. ;(;Jh1UMJ/ ~) Action: ~J/ttf & t/ II I!t' % e. Consider an ordinance amending t e Zoning Ordinance by amending the PDH (Planned Development Housing) plan for Walnut Ridge, Parts 5 through 9, an 85.32 acre, 56 lot residential subdivision located north of Melrose Avenue on Kennedy Parkway extended. (REZ93-0015 and SUB93-0023) (First consideration) Comment: At its January 6, 1994, meeting, by a vote of 5-0, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of an applica- tion submitted by Southgate Development Company for approval of an amended PDH plan for Walnut Ridge, Parts 5 through 9, subject to submission and approval of a Grading and Erosion Control Plan. This plan has been approved by the Public Works Department. The Commis- sion's recommendation varies from the staff recommendation contained in the staff report dated December 20, 1993. Public input was received at the Council's February 1, 1994, public hearing on this item. Action: If e i/ f. Consider amendments to Zo ing Ordinance Sections 36-5 , Off-Street Parking Requirements; 36-60, Sign Regulations, and 36-9, RFBH, Facto- ry Built Housing Residential zone, to allow certain commercial uses as provisional uses in the RFBH zone, and to replace the incorrect referenc- es to the RMH zone with RFBH. {Pass and Adoptl Comment: At its November 4, 1993, meeting, the Planning and Zoning Commission, by a vote of 6-0, recommended approval of the Zoning Ordinance amendments cited above. The Commission's recommenda- tion is consistent with the staff recommendations contained in staff memoranda dated February 4, 1993, and April 15, 1993. No comments were received at the February 1, 1994, public hearing on this item. Action: !&~ /~"'1/ f (-~ % o -- ,,"L_~, '~ .'::' - J"..'.,:,:,:.:P' ,"'..' " ,"..:" ',)"" ' :"-', ' ,........,."..--'.-.. , ,'. ',:':', , ' , \'.0 ~ " . , ',/, "'. .,': "" . a ~, I~~ It! I ~' 'I ""-" i I I 1 ~ I, .', ~ ". J , , "I'"'''''''' )) ,lti .,,",',; ,~>:!'>>, , ,:':, ,i,~'" '" " .': <" : ~, I", .;':,".', ;, '." ' ::,;::,,~~~,."'';',,",'I>I.:i...:.i.i,/;~'~'';:':'1.,:;;:'',,):'.j:,;~:';;,':::':'~'i:~'.i',,"-,G"'''J''''''''_'~n..~,;..~.":..._....,,_<;_,_~"_... ,._:.~_:_~,_: _. _, ,_,..:;" :, . , :':":~'>,':;,' ,~.._/;r..; -, ,~"...:_...,-~.",..."":",-",,"'''~~''''----'''---...._'..'-,,,,- '. #5d page 1 Horow/ (#5d) Moved by Lehman, seconded by Nov. Discussion. CHANGE TAPE TO REEL 94-49 SIDE 1 I j , I i , , " ",,'. Kubby/ When we have got full schools. A school that would just increase in size that is already full and no safe pedestrian access across Highway 6. I hope that we can try to deal with some of the impacts that approving developments have and working with the school and trying to get a safe way across Highway 6 in the near future. Horow/ Any further discussion. pigott/ I just wanted to echo that in the sense of the secondary access question and say that I hesitate to vote for it but will be voting for it despite the problems that I see with secondary access on this. .....,. Horow/ Roll call- Second consideration passes. ~'j, ,..-~.: \ ' \ . \ '-,,> ~'--- I' , ~ , I : I , ~,; L J~fp \~,',,':,".,', 1i: " ?,' . (.; " ,I" L...4 F03894 y '\ o )~:.' . ';j'-?:'~':'''O,:,: I':': H: ',if:', .,:~' , ' , "..,. ' ".. ' \,', ..,.-,,'," \ " ',", ,lO;; ,..""".,,"t,,"I' , "'1"'''''''' ')5 .... . . ,',.. -', ,~~ E~~f ".. ,"'-''''~-~ .. I .\ ' C"\ \\ ~. ~;:;.;.- l' ! ~ .j :. ,/.,' ',j, \ ; I' ,.. i:1 i ; I I I 1 :f. I \! ! l J ,'/ I 0'-'-' '- ------; ,". " I' , "'- ;;' ~"'; '. . ' ',~' '" , , ,..t'.\'!,'f ,.." . , t>- . ',' , , " I.' ,'...,',. ~ ',~'f ' .,' . , '~',', ,_,:,_:.~_~~__ n._'....;_.....::......__.__::__' _, '. ,_,_:...,,_..~'."'. ",..i..A:. J,.V-"J _",,:,::_' ._c""";"":,,,,,,~,~;,"',~,_...__-,,_-., _,....~u.~.,,,.._ '.' '......_,_ __:..,..c.... ,._ --.: __:,.__,__,_ ...:--..,----- . #5e page 1 Horow/ (#5e) Moved by Baker, seconded by Lehman. Discussion. Baker/ Yeah, I have a comment more than discussion. We had four members of the P/Z Commission here last night at our request. I don't think we asked them one question about this item. And I thought that we did them a disservice. Horow/ I thought we did too. Baker/ I publicly apologize for ignoring them. Horow/ That did not work out right at all. Baker/ And I think that is our fault. All of us. I appreciate them showing up and I wished that we had handled it better. Throg/ Can I express my view. I was somehow under the impression that by the very fact that we had invited them to come and that there was opportunity to speak that I assumed that if they felt there was something to say they would say it. So that was the way- Baker/ Well, they came at our request. At our instigation. It wasn't that they wanted to talk to us. We wanted to talk to them. Pigott/ For some odd reason I thought they would be up at the table with us as we have met with other. Horow/ I did, too. The only other way of doing that was because we were dealing with them within the context of other issues we hadn't arranged it that way. In the future they should. But barring that apparently direct questions encouraged by me, frankly and I will take the blame on this one. We blew it. I don't think we really got sufficient input on this except we certainly did get input from the developer on the design. The previous and the current one. Baker/ I was under the assumption that they had a regular meeting that they were going to after seeing us anyway but that was not true. They were here just for us. They were not here before another meeting. I just thought that we- Horow/ Okay. Any other discussion on this. Throg/ I continue to be concerned about secondary access to Parts 6 through 9 as discussed in the meeting we had two three weeks ago. I can't remember when we last considered this. Lehman/ I agree with you in your concern. However I think last F03894 o ,,: ,0 ' ,of'", _",',' \ I , , .... ).5'.... D. ",,'t,';.' , '. ,..' ------,--------,---,-,,--,------ ~:i',A'</', .' .,.;;,,1,- '" ' , 1 " "', '. c ~.~~ \ . \ ., ~ ~' ( I r; I ~ I : i . , , J ~ ~I\!/ Ii' I;:', 1"["'1 -' " ,:,~.., .. ~( , , ". ,.-.."~'l, ,': .." ' _- _'''';''::'''~;;_N''~;._''_'''''::~~''''-;:' ~" ...' . .".' , ',,: '}._~~:,.....:2~",~'~~~:;~'i~~~Io,~~~1~~~,:~,"",";l~~~).,;,,-,~-, '~>('<;_'~ ,__:.,-""~";"""",,,-,,..,~.__,_,~'..~.....~~_~~_'.; ..~_.~..~.~,' ,'", #5e page 2 night it was demonstrated quite clearly that there was no real substantial change in the amendment from the original plat that they submitted. They changed street direction here and a little bit there, the culverts were in the same place. I guess in my mind it is a question of fairness. You come back with essentially the same or very similar plan I think you should find it very hard pressed to deny it based on rules that we mayor may not have changed in the mean time. Pigottl I just had the same secondary access questions that Jim had on this issue and then the issue of Camp Cardinal Road gets raised and so for me you know I tend to wonder how that is influenced by a vote saying that I have concerns about secondary access here. Does that mean that I am for extending Camp Cardinal Road down to meet this. I think there are bigger questions that enter into this discussion with the secondary access issue. However I believe it is very important especially with the culverts and the slope of the land. Throgl I guess I want to disagree with what you said Ernie. Correct me if I am wrong but what I heard last night was Larry Schnittjer speaking for MMS and Consultants indicating that there wasn't a substantive change. But I thought I also heard Karin Franklin saying that in her judgement there was. Novl In my judgement there was but it was a matter of disagreement. Throg/ I am just saying it is not just a clear cut case of there being no substantive difference. Kubby/ The fact is the plan had expired. So we can react differently the second time around and it is within the rules of the game. The rules may not be fair in your eyes in terms of that specific- Lehmani I realize that. necessarily right. Some things are possible but not Novl Very well put. Horowl Any other discussion. Roll call- First consideration passes, Throg voting no. F03894 " , "', ',; f,:\: \::):" ".' ,,', \ "'" , '.\ \ "".''''i''......'.r....:. '/' r.;. '. , , ...... ,,<, " t:,'ro"'i~ , ' , ?c': ""'.'.,..,,,;..."..,'1', o , :: :":',';,I~':'>',,:,,R!:,~,:>":~};, . ',."., '-"'~~'"'" "! .', ,', , ' " " (\., ,: ' ~ .~~:,'.-.~. i' .. ':" .' " ..-: ":" ~~t:,:\';, fJ'" ." '.. "~t .. .., .. ' 1 , , 'M,.. ,"' " . ::.,; ,_ ;.~:;':;''''''',l~..,::",~.:..:,;'.~,;,;..:.;:..):~:L.:,::",.~... ,......._ ~_ ,', " ~.' . . .. ' , .. " ' ' _ .. ~ ..~,'~...,..,...~'" """'...::-,.;..;.,'-"'.'u_'''.,."......,...''-........._,._.:...__.__.. Q, Agenda Iowa City City Council Special Council Meeting March 8, 1994 , Page 6 ITEM NO.6 - PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 1995 OPERATING BUDGET, FISCAL YEARS 1995 THRU 1997 THREE YEAR FINANCIAL PLAN AND THE SEVEN YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM. I' i , , Comment: City Council has reviewed the fiscal year (FY) 1995 Operating Budget, the FY1995 through 1997 three-year Financial Plan and the seven year Capital Improvements Program. This is the second of two public hear- ings being held to receive public input on the proposed budget. An increase in property taxes by the amount of the percentage change in the price index for state and local government purchases requires the city budget to be published twice and the City Council to hold two public hearings. The reason why the City is using the inflation factor is due to the continuation of the property tax restrictions in FY95 and the need to minimize use of cash re- serves. Action: ~v fw ITEM NO.7. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THE qJ.j.-foq FISCAL YEAR ENDING JUNE 30, 1995. ~0 " Comment: Two public hearings were held on March 1 and March 8, 1994 to receive public input on the fiscal year (FY) 1995 Operating Budget. State law requires that the City adopt only a one year budget. Council now pro- ceeds to adopt the annual budget for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1995 (FY95) so that it may be certified to the Johnson County Auditor by March 15, 1994 in the format required by the State. , .:~ C.-, \ ~<r . ' Action: 1~</ ,fdr fi ',I ITEM NO. 8- q4--'lo CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPR VING THE FINANCIAL PLAN FOR THE CITY, OF IOWA CITY, IOWA FOR FISCAL YEARS ENDING JUNE 30,1995, JUNE 30, 1996, JUNE 30, 1997 AND THE SEVEN YEAR CAPIT ALlMPROVE- MENTS PROGRAM. " ~, i , I ,b ,I' i \ i c) .,:,j "~ f"i~,:' h\" , \. Comment: Two public hearings were held on March 1 and March 8, 1994 to receive public input on the FY1995 thru FY1997 three-year Financial Plan and the seven year Capital Improvements Program. Council now proceeds to adopt the three-year Financial Plan and seven year Capital Improvements program. Action: 1( MltdV / IJ.f!I' ~.P/ ~jiM.J / /k;% '-- ':' o . ' .., ,0" , '," ,," " " ,:, . "''''',1 ,..-,--.,_. ".'":'.' " .. "~ ..., \ )";,10:.. .;\ .',,' , . '1' ,\ I~~] .-'. l. ' ,,~t, '"'....- \ \! \I /' ',.", T\! I" I I I I , I i "1" i' ,'~.' I ~~ ~ !t~~ r~o .. ,~" ,\ '\ " ... . ;, '. ~r; \', , "',"~,. ',' , "'....i , ". . , .. ._ .J,: ___~ '. . . _ .. ,'~ ..,..,.., ,', ,. ,; ;,\",,_l':'- _:;.', ,_'.. .:.', ,;: .- ',- ,_ ~..'.', '-'~..' #6 page 1 Horow/ (#6) Chair declares the p.h. open. Kubby/ Sue, I had requested that Steve make a very brief presentation outlining a few budget issues and I wouldn't mind it being part of the p.h. Pigott/ Great idea. Horow/ Good idea. Atkins/ Let's see what we can do. I know the rules. This evening you have your hearing and resolution of budget adoption. Budgets in Iowa are unfortunately very very complex because Iowa law is very complex. In all of the communities that I have served in a number of states, far and away the Iowa property tax law is the craziest layered - I don't know how else to describe it other then they just stack one policy on top of another without any real long term thought to the implications of property tax and not only as our primary source of revenue but how it affects the community in particular and tax payers in general. Also the law in Iowa is not particularly timely. As you know we have to submit to the state by March 15 a budget that does not go into effect by until July 1 of this FY. Approximately three months. One of the difficulties is the legislature remains in session after the adoption of your budget and some of you will recall two years ago the legislature undid a number of things that we had already placed in the budget that we had to make those adjustments before the budget year ever began. The city chooses a three year plan for budget adoption and to my knowledge we are the only city in the state that does that. That being we appropriate annually which is in accordance with the law but we also put together a two year plan, planning projection years in addition to our appropriation years. I think the thing that is the most difficult for the public to understand about municipal budgets, in particular the property tax laws in Iowa, and I am going to try to take a run at it. It is difficult to translate it into terms that are recognizable let alone understandable. But there are so many restrictions on you as a city council with respect to your budget adoption policy and I would like to just take a minute or two and just kind of walk through those for the public. Tax rates, tax limits, those are all set by law. The assessed value, the actual value of a property is not set by law but the procedure by which property is assessed is established by state law. The taxable value of that property, that is what you ultimately apply your mill rates against, is also set by state law. The state has something they affectionately refer to as rollback factor. And basically what that does is that fOllowing the assessment of the property it is roll backed to F03894 - ~.)""','" , '.. 'I,.'" " ,,' ", ;\ :.,' " "'0 '"...' - ~' I . " I:" 'I t. 4. lit) I tj, '~;~~'1 " , ' 'j. \ ~ , I I i I i I , I' , , , ~, '~ J ~' !~ 'G_ .' ", Y I t>. . , "'t' '\:\!" , , ',' . ." , >'. , ",:~"':,, #6 page 2 a taxable value based upon some statewide averages. This is only for residential and not industrial. Industrial is taxed at 100% and I mentioned earlier the layering. You add those elements and then we add a tax freeze on the revenue which in effect ignores the tax rates, for all practical purposes ignores the assessed value and the taxable value and sets the amount of money that you would be permitted to spend to run your local government. Somewhat like an allowance. That also being set by state law. Nox, the state also and I think we haven't spent a lot of time discussing this. Your budget, for all practical purposes, is filed with and must be approved by the state. Your local discretion is very limited. Our budget, that is the budget that we have for hearing tonight, I am going to try to translate it into somewhat local terms. That is how it might affect a property owner. The home valued at $100,000 in the upcoming budget year, after you apply a rollback factor, has a taxable value of $68,000. That same $100,000 home last year had a taxable value of $72,000 plus. The city's property tax levy, the rate, remains substantially unchanged. However the taxable value declines almost 7% in one FY. With these rough numbers someone with that $100,000 home in FY94 would pay a city tax of $937. The budget as presented to the council for resolution this evening, that tax bill would be $881 or a decline of about 6 1/2%. I don't know how to explain it in any simpler terms than that because it is again difficult to explain the state law because it deals in gross terms, gross values, gross taxable values and it makes it difficult to translate it. There are certain things that I think the community should remember. Is that we talk about the city's tax only. 60% of your local property tax bill goes to the schools and to the county government. The schools are not subject to the revenue freezes that the cities and counties area. And in our case our schools also have available to them an income tax. We have chosen to use the inflation factor and jump through a few additional hoops and that inflation factor is 2.6% simply because we find it necessary in order to operate the local government. Another often forgotten fact is that in many instances the city government is not really a whole lot different than a business. We have to enter the private market to purchase goods and services just like anyone else. Today's tidbit of news is postage is going to go up. When we calculated it real quick that is about $8,300 in new expense for the city. That one decision. But when you take the market forces which we must compete with the private. We buy cars and other companies buy cars and we buy gasoline and we buy all of those things, it is then I think a little bit more understandable why our expenses rise. Additionally you have the burden of fulfilling the states agenda. That is when they have mandated actions, quite frankly they are incapable of carrying those out, they F03894 :: - -t ,Q ,),' - - -- f" . ~: , I: ,l! ~~ @t ~~ i" r Ie f~ it "~ l!' " I )~ ~ 0, '.. ," ",\ . ~/::..",( ( , - r ..~', ,......... , \ ~(~ I' . ,~ I I I I I , ~>, . f'. , , I : I < :~J \'~ , ;,.' .- :( ~ .. " ':.' ~~~~~ -", ...\'" " "'l, '.. .' .,. . ,~. .. , , .,<...-.. .' " '.:~.,', ' , . , . '., .. ;:',~~' ~~.::;~~~'::.~:, ",-...:..~;...~..,--_. , , " . . , .. ", .. " ' : ,,:, _._ _,__' ~ ,"..,~ ....... .,,:,;.;;c .~.-\'...; .;,.:::;~,.,-, "'" ~I ",: '.t..; ,:.; c.:",'~',,,._<'., #6 page 3 pass laws which are in turn translated to located action whereby you much fulfill those. So, not only does the state tell you how to go about raising your money. These current circumstances are going to tell you how much you are allowed to have and also going to tell you how to spend it. So, it is very frustrating'I know for you and I think for the public and also for your staff is that the initiative process is the proverbial wet blanket that is being thrown on by the state. The bottom line is that our general fund for this year is actually down over the previous year. We have done that by a whole variety of factors. Primarily of postponement of certain expense. We will fulfill the states agenda to the best of our ability. We will use the limited funds we have available to take what minimal initiatives we can. But the bottom line in Iowa unless there is going to be a dramatic revision of the state tax code. I think you can look forward to several more years of these consequences. Is that about five minutes worth. Horow/ A little bit more than five minutes. That is all right. Kubby/ Is that helpful to anybody in the audience. Someone shook their head so it was worth it. Horow/ We don't know how many people are out there watching but it is complicated and we wish more of you would come here and take a look at the budget and comment on it. Pigott/ Sue, could I just ask Steve a question. You had mentioned that the state is not only telling us how much money we can take in but they also tell us how to spend our money. The public probably knows that we have some discretionary spending. I wondered if you had some sort of figure on what percentage of our money is discretionary vs. what mandates- Atkins/ within our budget about 83% of the revenues have some state regulation placed on it. The remaining 17% rests with you and you will see that mostly in our fees and charges. While I am sure there could be some legal challenges if you put together some extreme package of fees and charges, generally that is abut what you have available to you. Throg/ On a related point I was noticing in the paper today that one of the current candidates for governor is proposing to get the state's budget in order and to cut state taxes by cutting local property taxes. Pretty neat trick. Atkins/ I haven't figured out how he is going to do that one yet so I will be curious. F03894 -~ -,'- -~ ),',';\' , ,'.'"" "",:~':', , ~ ~,~'~_.,... ~" '''' ; \ '\ , , ",0 ' ,,'-,' , ' , ",i ' , ' -,' ~ , ,', ./, ~', ~,. j:. illY. . I ~' I 1 " i I '1 I ' ' r I I , '1 "'5';'.10: ,,""\',,-, ," ~,"'"--''' ' "--'-',~' - " -'1( , . ..'....,: ',.., """," ",' '.. ' ,',..\ ,.;...:.........->>\l......-",'''''-l.~".,'''"'.,L:'~''''''''''''.~......'''"'~''''".........._~..,_-:.. '~_.__.,_...__, #6 page 4 . I Kubby/ You have to read his seven page plan. Atkins/ I see. Horow/ Anyone else like to address council. Public hearing closed. , , I , i , ~ i. "',;--or , , '.' , '....,,! '---.f i ! I i' F03894 I . . ,; ,",- ,j,r; :," : : ";'\'''''" -,.~" '" o . .,.. "of, .. . ':'; ~_ , -,.:~-...- "" ',..... , ." /5 ,""" l ,',', . .- ; ~ I J "; I, i I I ,,'-i' "I"'''''';; 0",' :' .'.', '.. '.), , ..~ ~" I ," .' , .. 'f., ","Y"\ ',,; , ,,:1\\1' "', , .~, ~" t>- . " . ,'~.,. 1 , '~.., . ::,': . .' ...' _" ,.J_'^'~:_I':~"_... .,..,.;.','.-".;'.' #7 page 1 Horow/ (#7) Moved by Throg, seconded by Pigott. Any further discussion. (..--....' ,\ ' ,-',\ \ I \ \ 1 Kubby/ Yeah, I do. I traditionally make a few comments about the budget and since it is an $80 million document I feel even more obligated and would-I mean it is important because the budget is the action plan for the next year and it really kind of embodies and brings to life our community values. A couple of things that I want to highlight. There are things in the budget I really like and things that I don't like but you can't nitpick on everything. But there are a few things that I want to highlight and the first area is Transit. And I want to thank Larry Baker for his proposal to take the cream off of the Parking reserve and to transfer it to Transit and what the cream is is money generated above and beyond any kind of debt service, operation maintenance, and any savings for God Forbid the next ramp south of Burlington or whatever the next one is. So after we bring in revenues from the parking ramps and the meters and take all the other stuff out that is part of what the cream is and that is going to Transit. We also have over $500,000 plus being transferred to Transit from our General Fund and much of this is going to go for SEATS and I am glad that we are going to finally sign hopefully soon I hope. Do you know when a SEATS contract with Johnson County. Under Housing Inspection the council has agreed as a majority to, I think it was unanimous, to ask staff to come up with some reasonable increases in fees to go toward hiring two new inspectors. One a Building Inspector and one a Housing Inspector. In terms of the Housing Inspector there has been so much building in town that actually a decrease in the number of people doing inspections on rental property and we really need to get someone else on board to take of those inspections. Nov/ This is mainly a safety issue. Kubby/ Right. And the Building Inspector is needed because as we develop more protections for environmentally sensitive areas we need staff to help guide and inform builders, property owners and developers about what those ordinances are and to help us enforce them. The Senior Center was in tonight and mentioned how many hours it took for that one project for volunteer and I believe that the Senior Center needs to have an additional half time paid volunteer coordinator and from the discussions it seemed like other council members agreed with that too. I would like to to it this year. The majority of council did not want to but I do understand and find acceptable the thoughts of the majority that especially because of the tax freeze and the rollback and the need for the $43,000 repair job on the senior Center roof that it is F03894 C',~ --__-M " ,- - -~ "Q,.j,:- OM ~. . - jslb ,". " '..,' (.' ,m-;!' ., ," " "~ ,- ;. ' "l; '~:~ ~:)~ , , , ' i I" I I I I I I I I I , I f , . , j .I~il' 0--' \' ,~ ll'l:~~," I'l' '[, :c: 0 . ,,~' y i , , , "~t ~,~'l, ~' , , . ~ , .. ,~. ,.,. . ': , ~ " . "~.. ~~;' :':"~"~_"~h''''_''__'''';'_ ,_.."' ' :..,.,>~.m'_'.'''.,.':.-.,_:'.-:,:..', ",,,,,,,~;.':,,,,'..: ,',i'.-~'..,..'."",':"'",: #7 page 2 not feasible this year. I kind of feel the same way about a new city forester and both of these positions I will probably be harping about next year at this time. The library. I feel a real responsibility to comment on not funding the new circulation coordinator. Some of the new positions that we are going to fund are going to be paid out of fees and others that I want to happen aren't going to happen and as we talk more about the expansion of the library I think we will be talking more about staff and I think we do have a real commitment to the library and that almost around 10% of our budget from the General Fund goes towards the library and I think that really shows a commitment to the great services that they provide. We added a few thousand dollars to the Recreation Division budget which is going to be earmarked for keeping the rec center open one night a weekend until midnight so that teens can come and have kind of a positive place to expend some energy and gather. Mona Shaw had brought this up during her campaign for city council. Larry Baker followed up with some footwork as a candidate and it is in our budget. So it really means that those campaigns talking about issues generate a lot of action. The city is going to be working with some of our employees on some healthcare costs containment ideas and I think this is a real opportunity for management and employees to work together to cut down on healthcare costs which is a winnable thing for everybody. We also worked about-this really isn't a budget item but when Steve Atkins came to Iowa City he suggested that we have a citizen's summary to make this information a little more accessible and put it in a form that people could understand the budget and just get it out to the community and it is a great idea. And I think we talked about some ways to make some visual improvements to it to make the information even more understandable. And lastly I want to read the last sentence that is in the beginning statement of the budget. It is an appreciation statement to the Finance Department and the City Manager's Office and I really take it to heart and it says, IIWhile we surely appreciate all contributions to this budget it must be remembered that the real thanks must go to the city employees who on a daily basis transform this document into the city's program of services. II I want to extend my tanks to all of the city employees. Horow/ Thank you, Karen. I think that is very real and I think that Debbie Mansfield and Don Yucuis, our Finance Director, are to be applauded for once again coming up with a very very working acceptable document. Any other discussion. Throg/ wait a minute. I was kind of waiting to see if anyone else had anything to say. I would like to make one comment and it has to do with economic development policy n the city. The F03894 : - , ,_~'r ;';",)x,..". - .", , ~ I I I I ~' . -, . )'~,. ~.tr -<;::::";".'ij!';";;. , I ,I" :imiilI' " I i.,;';l,,'''' ,'" ",r:.'~!;',:-.:',:'y.. '. , p I -~~', ,.. , , I ;':, "i i I I I I I i #7 page 3 'i current budget targets $50,000 for the Iowa city Area Development group and several weeks ago when we were discussing ICAD in a work session I proposed that our funding for ICAD be replaced with funding for a new economic development commission and at the time I said that ICAD needs to be replaced at least as far as the city is concerned by an entity that reflects more fully the diversity of the Iowa city communi ty , is more publicly accountable for its work and pursues an economic development agenda that is more compatible with Iowa city's needs. I understand that some people in the business community have been disturbed by that initial proposal fearing that my proposal is hostile to economic development in Iowa city. I do not mean it that way. My proposal was to create a new economic development commission which would help Iowa city find an economic development policy that was most compatible with this community. So, that was the spirit of my proposal. At the time it was a clear that not a majority of council would support the proposal. I am not going to bring it up right now. I am not going to make that a formal proposal that we have to vote on but I just wanted to be clear about that. , '::,' ~ I I i I " , ",'i I I I I ''-..<:~ ., I, .. " I Horow/ Fine. Any other discussion. Roll call- Our budget is adopted. Thank you. I' ",' ",,:; "-':---.1 ,.j 'I I ,~ . II ,'.. F03894 "',I .,~..;.i o , j" ,', " ,:',,' :,;\ .',",'/,.><R.,:,r:,.,.. : t', ",;'..:',:',:'7"r;,-~':":~':"''''''''t., .\ '...'.,' "'1'''''''''''''''''' O"O"'i; ..., :IS;" "';- ,'"" ,'''''' , ",,,./::" " 1 ".'"'''''i''' " "(, , ' " #B page 1 I I,,' I " I , Horow/ (#B) Moved by Nov, seconded by Pigott. Any discussion. Kubby/ Just that last night there was a big article in the Press citizen about this new endeavor that we are launching into in updating the comp plan and I hope that we will go back to our seven year CIP after that process to make sure that that CIP reflects the outcome of the comp plan update and it is a natural process and so I don't want to get into the details of just- Horow/ I think everybody in the city of Iowa city should be proud of the fact their city is in Iowa the only one that has and that is able to look at a three year period of time for how we are guiding the city through the future. This is a very reputable way of looking at city budgets. I, for one, is very proud of this. I have no problem in tooting our horn when we go elsewhere. Moved by Nov, seconded by pigott. Roll call- (yes). , I: " '. .," " '''" , I , I "~1 " i....-: (; r"~ ~ , ' ! ~ I'" i "', ! ''('I I , ',1"1 ~i( f ,"" U F03894 o ',I ,,, I , ;""',":',"" " , '" ',,' 0 ' , ,; ""~:?";.:~,>",',.,>~'-::,:",;"" , :.... "'_.......~"".".........I'~.."'..."'r ":i(\ '.' ',\, i \' ',.' : .0" .",.,' . ',15:": .....".'!,. , , ,',' , '"._,', -,' :'~-:~!~~; ;,' ",' . -.';" . ",.,~.'....'" i1JJJIitii.ij , ' , 'I,''' , . , : ,.,>,~,~, ,:1 " ,0, ' .;': ":,1,""" , ; ,:::' : :',~t ~ ~ 'I'':' .. ~..i:: ;, '. .;.~,~ ,'~ ..... ' , , '. . : ;~. ' " ,,':, ,,; )', !: ',' , , ,',' ;" "( ,~' , " ';, :'.:._;:,~iL'A":';~'~"'''''~'~':':''~'~''' " .~. " ., . ' , ' _ ,,_._ ~.":",::,,,a..__,"___..: . I I ',' ::.- ;,;,,'.:'.':i,: :;",...," '..,.,' , , ,~_;...,.,:_.,'~~.........,! -...:.':-l\o~.Jo',,,~...-.;::-~,,',,,,,,,,.,,..1..t'"'-=~""~;<-'~_.~"'_'__ .". _,... " Agenda Iowa City City Council Special Council Meeting March 8, 1994 Page 7 ITEM NO.9 - ANNOUNCEMENT OF VACANCIES. a. Previously Announced Vacancies. (1) Design Review Committee - One vacancy for an unexpired term ending July 1, 1995. IGordana Pavlovic resigned.) This appoint- ment will be made at the March 29, 1994, meeting of the City Council. b. Current Vacancies. (1) Mayor's Youth Employment Board - Two vacancies for unexpired terms ending November 4, 1995 and May 5, 1996. (Karen Heim- er and Paul Engler resigned.) These appointments will be made at the April 12, 1994, meeting of the City Council. ITEM NO. 10 - CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS. / a. ~1}~ Consider an appointment to the Animal Control Advisory Board for a three-year term ending May 4, 1997. (Paul Cooper's term ends.) Action: i);/f1IlI~/i I/. ~ //.~ 1 J.Udl.1 c,ll/lv lOA) , , i i .', ;: , r,i J\ ....--..~: \~ " J".... ,~~.- i I' ~t , I , I I 1,... . r~ il ' ~ ";f : ' .~> .(~~; b. Consider appointments to the Housing Commission to fill two vacancies for three-year terms ending May 1, 1997. (Terms of Paul Egli and Charles Eastham end.) ITEM NO. 11 . Action: '() 41' x#.eJ /.(im/ , , , -<~ ""</cQ,,,,;;),'. ,)" I ,',....," .','.-:, '-"j' ~ . " ... ,~,,,,.,'~".'."-"'"' '_~"", 1 " .. ." . ", , ,~' . I I",,' . " I i ! f , 1,"0'.''','1'.,','','''''' ' "''1'"'''''''''''' ' 't'~ ," . "."""",,,",1,,.."" ',. ' .'-'f 'I', I~~ ',..,. \ .. -.~. ,,..-. I ' r , i~ ~, r r " I" I , , I I i ! ! ~, i 'j I~ ~;r . "I,,',. ~? l' , ", ','1" ~"" t (t Il~~, ' L,_ ,^ c."c 0 .. ~ ;,~' j" .,', . '\t," ,"\\f. '. \.. ;'. . ... . '. ~ ....'. . '~..,., . , , " ,_~,I,'..:.~_,.- :.-' .,_..;",,, ..',...; ,..;,;.,,~'. ,,,\; :..-,~",'::~ ",' ~'...., "",.';''-.-~'' .., ", #11 page 1 Horow/ (#11) city Council Information. Pigott/ This evening we received a packet of information regarding the Iowa Festival and I thought it would be an appropriate time to bring it up since I did bring it up during the budget discussion, we have just talked about that, to remind people to consider finding ways to support financially through the shifting perhaps of our Hotel/Motel Tax revenue support for the Iowa festival. The number of things I like about the Iowa Festival, just to give a little pitch about it, is a local festival featuring local musicians which bring a focus to our d.t. over the past several months we have been talking about expanding our d.t. Part of the expansion of or d.t. is not just building new buildings but bringing in new culture. I think it is a vital part of our d.t. and I would really like us to consider shifting some resources and making sure that this festival which is getting on its own feet which receives the majority of its festival budget from private sources including individual contributions and area businesses and corporate grants. That we consider ways to provide some funding for this through shifting Hotel/Motel stuff and I would encourage if it is all right with the rest of council, steve, to examine ways that we could do that and get back to me on that. Nov/ Did you talk to the Convention and visitors Board. Pigott/ I haven't had a chance to talk to them about this yet but I am sure that we will be talking soon. Especially considering this will affect their budget. Nov/ I think they may have some way to do that if they choose to do that we may not have to. Pigott/ And I agree with that Naomi. I think that is a tremendous idea. If they would choose to support the Festival in a way which will allow it to be as vibrant as it has in the past. I think that would be an appropriate method of doing something. Horow/ Do you wish to take that back. Pigott/ I will take it back if that is the sense of council that we would like to see that happen then I would be happy to convey that message as a member of the CVB Board member. Great. I will take care of it. That is it. Thank you. Nov/ I have a couple of things. We had a neighborhood meeting at Lincoln School last week talking about the Woolf Avenue bridge and we had very favorable comments from the neighbors who wee F03894 ~" ..., 0 . . ", !'.' ',' ...,. .j),:."',:,.., l ] J . I ".. . .' ..0."..,__'_"'...' i R ~ '1 "I" ,.., '/,r;. ... ...) 10: ". ""I '" ;, ':'.'1 '~' ~ i' . ,'; ,,' ~. " i: r " .:\ ,-'\ \ ,~ ;;:;,"'~ , I' , ' l" I I I , k i .1 ': '( 1" .) ~'~ l~.''',',(' K' ,\ t.", ." ~' \~, L._ (1---- ~L...<: , , ,..,',1 " ,', " ...'~?: \'i' '" ',',\,. . " ,'.: :' ',,' :" '. ,'" .... ~ 1 '- . ...,-,.-,~.~:..-".,',.- "..,....,....__.~.... . " ,_;__~"......"." L~:, ',',I ~~'~.-,; :.;:.:,'. :,,~',;'<'; ';;~~', '.;"""''"'"'' #11 page 2 able to attend and we had a little scolding from those who do not recommend that we schedule again against a basketball game in an area like that. So we did promise the neighbors that we were going to be sure that those who could not attend would get some comments in the mail and reports on the meeting and if there was going to be another meeting at that school, it would not conflict with the University basketball game. Anyway, the comments about the bridge design were almost all favorable. The bridge looks beautiful. At least the drawing looks beautiful. Let's put it that way. Some of us attended the Fine Art Fair, the Fine Art and Fun Fair. Whatever we called it. The DVIP raised about $25,000 at this auction which they will make good use of the rest of the year and our community deserves commendation for having supported this group in this way. Horow/ There was some fantastic art there. Great. KUbby/ I want to congratulate Jim Throg on his 6-1 vote. And Ernie, too. I think they are important things to remember. We got a bunch of memos from different departments about weed and brush control and there were some things in here I liked and some things I didn't like and I hate, in some ways I say I want to talk about them right now because we are always saying we will put them on an informal and there is just never time. So what is council pleasure at this point. Horow/ I would prefer not doing to tonight. Kubby/ I would like it scheduled before spring so if we want to direct our departments to behave differently and the things we liked to make sure they behave the same. That it happens before it is too late. Pigott/ Next informal. Baker/ Let's do it special Thursday night meeting. Horow/ What about the meeting after the 28 and 29 is the 11 and 12. Kubby/ Sometime in April would be fine. That seems early enough. But there might be some preemergent stuff done that could happen in April. So beginning of April. Nov/ April 11 is the first meeting. Horow/ Okay. All right. I have a number of items. On Friday, March 4, the Iowa League of Municipalities had a meeting of the nine urban mayors and the subject for this particular meeting was on juvenile justice. I went along with your city F03894 b..' ---- ~ .~-- , t') ,',-', , ,", , ',' ,.Q, ,'" ,': " ~. . 'I'" 'It, l,) I j o I , i i , , ,10, , .. ~.. .. " I ,\ 0...~,t' ...-....-...:.1" " r I \ ("', \l ~ ~ : I' if-I I,: IV:' ~ ,: i; ;"j1'j " V( ,~:. ""1' ',',: ~ f;t~, " L... ,:r 0 .' " ,\'i' , ' , '. ~t~" . ,\':, '" . ,'"" " , , '.", ~ 'M... ,',' . :: ~, _".~ H"""." " , '!~,""~'~:.:<:;,:' #11 page 3 manager, steve Atkins, and your chief of police, R. J. Winklehake, and Jerry Palmer from the Iowa City School District was there as well. There were representatives from the nine major cities. Their police chiefs, the justice system in Iowa and other school boards were represented. The whole issue of juveniles and a community response to the problems that are emerging right now in Iowa was covered. Not totally. We agreed we would continue working ont his and at the same time I have been asked to be on a panel at the national level at our National Meeting again on children in the communities and I will gladly take part in that. Along with the idea of children the Iowa City Area Science Center is holding spring course during March 22-29 I believe and two of the Iowa City employees are taking part in that. One is Terry Robinson, our forester, and the other is Carol Sweeting, our educational person in the Water Department. I was happy to see them listed in that. And yesterday I went over to the School of Allied Health Sciences and along with Al Axeen, the two of us gave a proclamation on national Medical Laboratory Week. It was AI's first turn in terms of giving a proclamation and so we had great fun by he would read one whereas clause and I would read the next whereas clause and we kept going on down the line. It livened things up but both os us were very very sincere about giving acclamation to those people who work behind the scenes in hospitals in the laboratories. Cross Laboratory, VA Laboratory, Uni versi ty Hospital and my remarks in front of this group was I feel the same very strong support for the City of Iowa city employee. These are the people that you don't see in front of the camera. These are the people that are working constantly to keep this city as vi tal as it is and I gave you great acclamation because I feel very strongly about them and about what a great staff we have. We also, interestingly enough, received a letter today from Maggie Elliot. Dear Mrs. Horow, I would like to thank a city employee who helped me last Friday in the snow storm. I apologize for not catching the employees name. However she stopped her truck by the Shop, For The Birds, pushed and shoveled me out until my car was free. Not only do I appreciate this particular person's help on a very cold day but I am grateful to live in a city that encourages assistance to the public. Sincerely, Maggie Elliot. I appreciated that and I bet I know who it was. I bet it was Rosie. Atkins/ It probably was and probably got a complaint form a neighbor why she wasn't there plowing their street while she is digging. It is a good trade off. Horow/I had the pleasure of riding in the snow truck and sander with Rosie and she is a fantastic employee. F03894 , , . ,.0 , .' ,,"' . - I' ! " ~5 ;0: ;;\:-1\':',.",'. ':: , ",,; ~, #11 page 4 March 10, this Thursday at the Korean Baptist Church on Mormon Trek there will be a joint neighborhood meeting with Southwest Estates, Walden Woods, Hunter's Run, Ty N Cy, on the Comprehensive Water Quality and Facility Plan and the Rohret Road update. Those are just some of the things that are going on in the city and I just thought I would mention them. i i "<,J , , , -, _'I " I I .1 ! i ,;~ , ( , }"J'~ ....-....; \ ' ~ ',,' <-.-') I.! I i\ ' I ~~, . ! i i , F03894 ,,~ . I I j ~ ~I ) '.', .' " .) o , i " " -~'c""HT-"-::' .l':'I':'o"Jr; "')5'" '...' '; ",( " ',' 1/1, _ _________ _..___:_1' , ",,,~.'\,,~,~,,:.~:~,;,Ii', '. ,", .,", , " 1:), X"":i,I<Ri;";::'!' ",;,)","!' '\ , ': , ~ '. , \ , l I I tJluilil', ' I ' " " I~ '" ;" , '., ''':! t>- . :',' ':~~~~~'j.-.' , ~ ,'.. ,< " "'-,..,,, , , "'. . ' ,.' . . ;\' '. .. ", _ '-'_~ ,~':'.~.r'~,'__~__: ,. ._-,~ ,-'..'~'''~'~'''''''_._~.,-"._-----,. ,_.,,,_,_..u_... __n."_'___'_ " Agenda Iowa City City Council Special Council Meeting March 8, 1994 Page 8 ITEM NO. 12 - REPORT ON ITEMS FROM THE CITY MANA'GER AND CITY ATTORNEY. I I, a. City Manager. -f)... b. City Attorney. -tJ.... ITEM NO. 13 - CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE BUDGETED POSITIONS IN THE '11- '71 WATER DIVISION OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. ,/, ..l \-.~ ~ ~r:'1 I. I" I I I . ~~ I'. , I , , , i I ~~ ~1' % ITEM NO. 14 - CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE DESIGNATING AN AREA OFTHE CITY OF IOWA CITY, IOWA, AS AN URBAN REVITALIZATION AREA WHICH SHALL BE KNOWN AS THE NEAR SOUTHSIDE COMMERCIAL URBAN REVITALIZATION AREA (First consideration) Comment: This resolution replaces a vacant position of MWIII with a Treat- ment Plant Operator position. The new position will increase the number of operators available for relief operations on a 24 hour basis and will increase the on-call operators for plant emergencies. The TPO will also provide assis- tance with preventative and repair maintenance duties. There will be no additional cost under the revised reclassification plan. These positions are in the same pay range. *lJ~/ ,I c(r;JVJ?tMV Action: , " .. , Comment: The proposed urban revitalization area includes the area zoned Central Business Support Zone, CB-5, located between Burlington and Court Streets and is required to implement the Urban Revitalization Plan; therefore, final passage should occur only after the Council's adoption of the Plan. Designating this area as an urban revitalization area would grant property tax exemption to qualified improvements as designated in the proposed plan. This item was deferred from the Council's March 1, 1994, meeting. Action:. ltM11cW il(7;: /t:f;:# It; ~ K~ ( ')'5 : I: [J: '. -~ .,(~~ " , r 'woo . ' .'0 ,", ":""",.:,'",, )", ,,' " . , ,', ....:" , , 't., zm2i .: ,r' i' ., , "," t"- . ".' . '1, ' "\\1:, , , ',' , , '.,; ~ , " f" . . ~ . .__ _._..,........'..'. ,'".~.- ";~'-' " '.",..._.. _w.,_..,...._..., - #14 page 1 Horow/ (#14) This goes along with items #15-17. Nov/ Can we discuss all of this at once or do we need a motion first. Horow/ Moved by Lehman, seconded by Nov. Go into discussion. Kubby/ I hope that we can discuss all of these items because three of them are options of how to behave and so we need to talk about all of them. We have a motion on the floor. We can't go to another item. ~l Horow/ Sure we can. Nov/ Put all the motions on the floor and discuss them all. Gentry/ You can discuss them all without having them all on the floor. As long as everyone agrees with that. Horow/ For the purposes of discussion Item #15 (reads resolution). Item #16 (reads resolution). That is it. There is one motion right now. We are dealing with Item #14. I was on a roll here. ~ Nov/ Would our city attorney like to explain all of this that we are now going to vote on if we vote on it. 'f I' Gentry/ Yes, I would be happy to. State law has once again told us how to do things in terms of abatement. Steve talked a lot about budget and here we are with urban revitalization. There is currently a public hearing was held on a urban revitalization plan for a three block area south of Burlington. State law requires that if the council chooses to continue to look at that plan and eventually adopt it an additional 30 days need to be open for persons, property owners, to come in and object or present additional information to you by requesting a second hearing. So if you wish to proceed with the current plan you need not do anything on the plan and you may as well go ahead and consider the ordinance designating the area which is in tandem by giving it first reading. But you need not do that. Your other options I have outlined in a diagram and also in several memos. If you wish to adopt the current plan and amend the plan after your 60 day period ends for inclusion of design review, clarifying the language on whether this is or is not a blighted area, state law permits you to designate this area and use the urban revitalization tax abatement powers for a purely economic development purpose. It need not be blighted and I think Ernie was interested in clarifying the blight language and delineating it. You can do that later. And your ! ( I ,\ r-'~ , \ \ ,~~ T I" ~~ t.~, :: ~" f;"~", ' F03894 .'" ['- 0- ., ,--.- n. )" "\ " Ie]': ,,0 IS , .":' to',' - -- " " '~':',;::,\:::,:":~ .' DI':',., , . ",:~,j,' ..'''' , " " ~ ) , ~~ [~ ,.:;;i . ~ i .' ~ ,-- " ,',. ..,'. "",",, " ; 'A\\f"" ,~: :':" ~, .' :.., ' ,il'. "l' ,7""'" "." , , , . , .:/, ".." ,I , , ,.. .. '! ":;.._"_~,~_,,:;:,,,:~'~;:::.;..i~~.~~,,,.~.:.::;~;~~;:..x~~.i~!:,"":;; ,;,"-'J.',. ~IJ"''-'''''.''~'''_'.;-:''-__''_._.'_'-__'_;~.~'.'_~_____~~~';:.. '; , '.' , #14 page 2 third thing was to clarify whether you want any percentage of use of this property for residential. The general thrust was commercial. So if you want to proceed with this plan and amend it after your April 12 decision on the plan you may do nothing and adopt the ordinance. If you want to change courses drastically on the plan either with respect to what you want out of the plan or you want to expand the designation then Item #15 gives you an option to abandon the current plan and direct staff on a fast track to give you an amended plan with the three amendments that I gave you CHANGE TAPE TO REEL 94-49 SIDE 2 Pigott/ That is Item #15. Gentry/ That is Item #15. If you want to proceed to abandon the current one and start another one running then I would suggest you adopt a new resolution determining the necessity to do so. If you completely want to abandon the entire process I suggest that you direct staff to prepare a resolution of abandonment period. Horow/ If we choose to go along with the existing plan and work in the proposed amendments and vote on Item #16. No, we adopt Item #14. Pigott/ What would have been called in the past the non-substantive amendments for Item #14. Gentry/ Yes. Horow/ Then on March 19 we would come up with the amendments that would address this. Is that right. Okay. Nov/ I thought that we had already come up with those three amendments. Horow/ They haven't been-they are not in here. Nov/ No, they are not. Kubby/ It won't be any work to create them because they are already created. Horow. But we would have the p.h. for them. Could we have the p.h. for them March 29. Gentry/ No. Horow/ The p.h. would be proposed March 29 for April 12. F03894 o .1 I I 1 I ,",\ ' .." . . ,." ., , I y "."'1'.."..., ,,,' .', /5 , . , '"I''''''' "\, ,0", , ,:; ;, ", ~ :.,.'.' ",' ,",I, , ""','-,\ ' ','."... il'llilmlf ."",, i '., " ; ",'~ ' , ,. I' J' -'~ \ \ \ ~ /~,. , " I I i I , I~, ,I': I I' ! I " ~~ ,II :', ?'~ 0 '. " , '" , "'.:";:' , "'t.' : ~,,\\ 1.', , ',,"" ".,' . ~'~. , ,,:':',' , ""..:\ " ~ " , ',' , ." . ,_ '.. "::'-~'~:~~~.:''.:.'':'"''M'''''''''~'~___''''_'_''''' , , . '.' , _._::.... .......,.c',,"~ .".,,).;;lo::~ .~.~; J.. ","':'" ",:.;".-.:,;; ~:":;,'..;.'-' ;""" ,;-,,<,.",,,;,, #14 page 3 Gentry/If you are talking about the short time frame for an amended plan and continuing on-let's assume you approve this plan April 12. You will then set a p.h. on your-assuming you have agreed to your three substantive amendments: the design review, the clarification. Set a p.h. on the 12th for the 26th. You give public notice you will have a hearing on the 26th and adopt an amended plan with those three changes. Horow/ Okay. Kubby/ Now where is the option is we want to start with a new plan but to have more than the three amendments attached to it. That we want to go with the Bruno/Throg design. Gentry/ Then you should vote in favor of Item #15 and #16 may be premature for setting a p.h. #16 may be very premature. pigott/ So it is possible however that what could happen if we wanted to proceed or if some of us wanted to proceed with the Bruno/Throg plan that you could end up having a majority of council vote for the abandonment of the current urban revitalization plan and not those same, but still a majority, voting for the setting of the p.h. for April 12. Kubby/ Yes. pigott/ Do you see what I am saying. Is the majority may change but you may end up with a majority for both. Gentry/ It would appear to me that if you are going with that- The proposal the you were talking about last night, I don't know if it is humanly possible for you to set a p.h. for April 12 and have anything in front of you. I mean it is just not humanly possible. Karin is wonderful but- Horow/ If we voted for Item #14, a majority voted for Item #14, then would they also vote for Item #16. Gentry/ No. Kubby/ What matters. I don't think that is completely true. That if you voted for Item #14 it got voted down, you would want to vote for item #16. Horow/ Sure. Kubby/ So let's get into this. Gentry/ One would assume that if there is a majority for 14 that means you want to continue on with the plan and vote on it F03894 ._- " ~.. ,',' "'" ',.'",.0,,',.', I",' ;,~ ,/, .', 1 ~,'~'" ',' " :!:,,:: , \ - " , " '~ 11", -" .-' ~ v [, " ~15,rD, '" , ',",'0'" !~' . ' ; '..>' ,....:-1 I" ~; (,\ \\ 1'1 .. ',,, ~4(\ I" \ ~ , b ! '1 ; I ~~I ,;" ,,-...',;../ , , , f ~I":"" ,\ I I'! :!i " , r W'~., [-., f ':'! '....-" '" ,:', " 'f,. , " , ',' ,.,1 " "t' :-."1-\1.\ - " .'~' ,," " A . " , ': :-<;.,1, , . , " ," " .....;.> ::',.;:~... ,-"~';':,;,:\,;:;"";;,'::f:;,..-:,'.j:,':;,::o.;,,, '..",..'..,..P,.._.. .._.'" :, ' , " ,,"' _,.,.,y"..'-'>.,..\J,..,.,,"~..,\T..',J.. ,,--,,,'~''-''''~'_,,,,,,,....,,. .. #14 page 4 April 12. Pigott/ without any substantive changes. Gentry/ And go for amendments for the 26. Kubbyl Everyone agrees with the amendments so that is really not an issue of contention. Novl If we cannot amend this on April 12 I would suggest that we amend it as soon as possible and present the possibility of somebody coming in under the original plan before the amendments take effect. Horowl What is the (can't hear) Gentry/ You will set-I will put on your agenda for the 12th to set a p.h. for the 26th with and Karin will mail out the notices, your 30 day notices, no-it is a seven day notice, for the amended plan on March 11. That is as soon as you can do anything lawfully. Kubbyl No one is going to come in for building permits in that period of time. Gentry/ As a practical matter I find it highly highly unlikely. If someone should for some reason do we have any rights to deny them because we are in process on amendment. Atkins/ There is no moratorium. Gentry/ No. It is not a zoning change. Novl What we do have is approval of each individual project and by the time somebody has gone through the building permit process do they also get tax abatement at the same time. Wouldn't that come some time later. Gentry/ No. You can't get tax abatement until you get the project approved and you apply to the tax assessor and he has inspected your property. That is way down the line. Throg/ But the rules that apply to any new applicant would be the ones in affect at that time that applicant makes an application for approval under a revitalization plan. Isn't that right. Gentry/ They would have to get a building permit first. Novl But even if they had a building permit, I was thinking that F03894 o ,,, 0 '"1,1",,," " 1 " ! , I , "" . ';- '.' ,,:__C_"'_'___'h""" '", I ~ " I ! '''I'''' j~ I,," " : 0"', " " 'I'" ,I" "". ': .' . ~\ ;::~f., i ',~J': ,f .,," , ' '/ "".\ . .. .,:, ~.t ',,'I,', ' /", '" '. , ''- ~', \1 ( , '~''''' , i' . ""_",,,~.~""'_"'.b._', , ',r,,,~; .,' !.' /.' r.";,,,-.:.~,,';) ~~:;;; .", .. " __ ,.,:."'"..".,..,'".-.-.-,..-.-.. ..-.-,.-,.-.-.-..,-,-,--.-. - f #14 page 5 the tax abatement requests comes in well after that. Gentry/ It does. NoV/ At that point we would have had all of our rules in place and we would be able to say that if you expect tax abatement your building has to conform to these rules that we have set up. Gentry/ I can't envision anyone coming in for a building permit or a request in that two week hiatus, between April 12 and 26. Just seems extremely unlikely. ---', Kubby/ Well, I would like to encourage people to vote for abandoning the plan so that we can step back from this 3 1/2 block area and look at this bigger issue of revitalizing south of Burlington with the concept outlined with the plan that Bruno and Jim presented last night. I know that there may be people who disagree with some of the details but I think the concepts are really good. That if our purpose is to spur economic development and to really bridge Burlington street we need to have something more than an office building and for me even though there are great community goods with redevelopment in that 3 1/2 block area, for me the question is not whether those are good things but whether we should use tax abatement and under what conditions we do that. And for me having an office building that doesn't provide other kinds of public amenities that aren't already in the underlying zone like some of the design considerations is not enough for me. I need things like public spaces. I need things like affordable housing. Some kind of targeted employment. That it might be things that I believe are worthy of using that tool at this time. Especially because we are already planning some public investment south of Burlington. One a streetscape plan. We, in our budget, are investing publicly $50,000 in and it may be more over time. Two, the zoning, that is the purpose of the whole south of Burlington plan was to create some incentive. And three, with the commitment in that plan even though I have some problems with it in terms of parking. So, for me those are lower level incentives that I don't believe have had time to work before I am interested in taking a more bigger kind of public investment especially when it doesn't meet those conditions for me of the public housing-of the affordable housing and the public spaces. pigott/ If I could just for a moment. Two things. One is that during the p.h process which was a really an educational process for me. I stayed very quiet and listened because I wanted to hear what people had to say. I heard one thing consistently and that is step back, don't just consider this single project. This single project shouldn't drive this ,.'~~,.....- " ' ,\ C~'\ \'\ ,~ " ~~, , I r( \, ':,",;. \"" ,I': i~ Ii , I' 11'1 I I' i I , I I ~,~ I I' ' \ I !l' ''-("i ,\ -",~-'- :' ,( "~""""."",,, ~::'~ , " ~, *<.1' H ~", L.-'\..:. F03894 Co ~'_~:'_ - "),, " ,"':,/',:' '\ T ~- ,,: . ,Q", l , I I " I i , i ~ j'"'''' "5 ,I' Itj """""" I., '/; .' ,,~, ''.~:'''I , ., '" . "'.;., ' :'I\\i' ,~ '; ,~. " , ," ""o.i ,~ , ", '~.,':, "'. . . ':,1"" ,.,_. -' ',"'~" .... ~""";"..._~" ..... , :,:"..','1,".".":"". """-"--"'C'-J' i I i , #14 page 6 plan. step back and consider the plan. I think last night what we did was step back and consider the plan. I think that that was a wise thing for the public to tell us. That is the first thing. The second thing I wanted to say was that I think that many of the concerns that you raised Karen are important concerns for not just you but for other members of the community and one of the things that I really like about the plan that Jim and I presented last night was that it met several of the needs and desires and vision of a wide variety of people in the community and one of the things that I think we have to consider when we consider revitalizing any area in town is how are we addressing the desire and needs of our community. One of our desires and needs of our community is the office building consideration that is being met through this plan. Other desires have not been considered in the current plan. I think one of the beauties of the Jim ThroglBruno Pigott Plan is that it meets such a wide variety of those needs and desires for the future vision of our city that it makes it possible for everyone in the community to embrace it. And so that is why I think we should step back and not step back to delay but step back to move forward in a fast way to make this near south side a real vital area. < Lehmani Susan, there is a couple of things that I would like to say. Originally I really did oppose this which is one of the reasons I would like the language changed that doesn't say this is a blighted area which it obviously is not. The d.t. area really has only one way to expand and that is across Burlington Street. And I really don't envision this as something replaces or in fact I think it enhances what we looked at last night. To me this is the first step in a journey that will take care of this area south of Burlington Street. And I have no problem with starting this. It encourages commercial development. Basically it discourages residential development or will when we get through. What is built there as commercial buildings is none of our business. If somebody wants to build a shopping center, if they want to build an apartment house, they want to build an office building, that is not relevant. We are talking about 3 1/2 block area that either is important to the d. t. or is not important to the d. t. It either is worthy of tax abatement to encourage people to develop there or it isn't. It really has nothing to do with who is doing it, how much they are spending, or what they are building. If it is commercial, it is commercial. ra I, ,",\1,. ~ , \ \\ Ji. /-- , , . I", 1'0:.'. Novl I agree with that and I agree with splitting it. I liked the idea of proposing some kind of revitalization for the area south of Court Street but this is, to me, a different proposal with different criteria. I think the criteria that we set for :1 J ~~..'" ,. . , . , F03894 ~~ (r~~ L_-~ 'fC ~ '::, , ,._~ " '"'1 I-~ ,~.,,',' o ': ", ~ " ),.,." " " , ,.. " ' ," " ,i.... ,,'( I 'S 'I ~ \ rd, " '" ',; ~q' - ('~'" ( , ,_.\ '-', I \ \ \l ,'I ," '0'(-,\ " , 'II' I! ! I~ I I' I' I, I . ii', I i ~, . ,'; ! I ,: i' II, o_..'\'. Ir:' ~-~- .' ,', ,~," I .' '" . , "'to, , ,,' '.~ 1,'1 , )', i~, ',; ,','-:',( ~ '.'''''., . ;~ '. .. .. ..,'- ~,..,~'",,;..._"-,~ "'"''; .,~~ '~''':,; ,.":,~', ,. , #14 page 7 a revitalization zone, the criteria that we set for tax abatement in an area that we want to be densely commercial will be different from the kind of thing that we would do south of Court street because we want that one to be more residential which may have some commercial mix to it but we don't want the heavily commercial density that we want in the CB-5 area between Burlington and Court and it would be my preference to set those two areas differently and to do them one at a time. Baker/ Let me agree and disagree with Ernie. I tend to favor starting this process with this area. If at least a majority of people can come to some terms that agree on how we want it to work. But it does matter to us what kind of commercial development goes in there. We want not just any commercial development. We want the highest possible density. We want to figure out a way to encourage that sort of development. We make all sorts of general and specific guidelines here. I think Jim and Bruno's proposal last night is almost, in my mind, an inevitability. I think we are going to look at that area. We are going to do it very soon and again, not knowing exactly how it is going to end up but I see much of what you are talking about happening down there. I am very excited about it. I think the time frame that we are dealing with here is such that we can look at the commercial revitalization as a separate issue and it is not going to be distinct from and it is going to be incorporated into your plan or your plan will be incorporated into commercial district. But I don't think we need to wait to finalize all of the details on your plan to do this other plan. saying that in general I have reservations about the current plan for the commercial area and I have some things that I would like to see happen there in conjunction with the discussion of the revitalization plan which is some sort of amendments or fast track discussion of the underlying commercial CB-5 zone and with certain amendments in the zone itself underlying the revitalization plan I am comfortable with proceeding with that. It depends if there are at least three other people who are willing to look at the underlying zone and address some of those other issues. I don't have a strong sense that voting for 14 vs. voting for 16 is going to make a major difference on the time. I would like to be able to do it in conjunction with amendments to the zone itself and which ever 14 or 16 works out best for that I would like to see us adopt. But I have talked privately with all of you and members of the public and for example I see a strong sense that we need to look at the parking requirement in that commercial zone. Not as restrictive as the CB-2 but something needs to be in place that requires any development to take into account commercial parking up to a certain percentage and this is where staff and F03B94 .. .' - ~~~ .,- "..,0.,)",'., ",",' . ,,;, - -,-;w . -N I I f" . ,- \' " is ,10: ,.",,', ,{'.. :.~a' ,", ' '- ........-. I, '. r .' ..\ "."\ \\ \) ~ ' . '~~(-\ 'I ' I : I~ ' I I I I i I -~- tr- 0 .L_ . ; ,~, ,~:., ~, " , . "\~' '-',,\\1.'1 , .. , ' t>- . ',' ,', , ..', t," .,. ~ - '~"'I' , ',', ,..' 1 , ~4,_.JL:.'-_" .w".~,_.:.._, __ ,;_" . _, _. ,.;. . ..,~, ,..-,:_.r;.:~,':" /,<<.'.:,:. .,-". ',: ';.' ,'-;.;~:.:~; '.." '....'..;; .\:",j, #14 page 8 commission can do something for us and they have been thinking about this. with some sort of impact fee schedule for commercial parking and I am quite willing to also ask the staff to look at some sort of way to mitigate the impact of the impact fee. For example we don't necessarily have to require that that impact fee be paid full amount up front. It might be able to be phased in and make it easier on any potential developers to take advantage of the other incentives and lessen the impact of the impact. Kubby/ Could be a land swap. Baker/ Land swap especially if someone has lots of land in the area. NoV/ The kind of thing that we don't require the impact fee at the time of the building permit which has been in our original impact fee. Baker/ That is something that our impact fee ordinance and parking regulations the staff can work out to make it work. The underlying zone has always been my problem with this revitalization plan. It has never been the concept of tax abatement to spur development. And I am glad that we are going to do design review and restrict the residential. I don't want us to lose track and I don't want the public to be mislead by us if we do indeed go ahead and work on this commercial district let them think we are going to let this other project slide. I certainly will not let that happen. I don't think Jim and Bruno are going to let that happen. In fact I would like us see us set a self imposed deadline that indeed that we have something in place for that south side beyond Court for the next building season. Sort of a six month program for development and have it in place by January 1, 1995, so we can talk about development. And then get the two plans coordinated, offer the incentives, here are the rules, let's see what we can do to spur development down there. But I can only support the revitalization plan if at least the majority of the council is willing to look at the underlying zone and that is basically where I have always been coming from the last six or eight weeks. Kubby/ That is exactly why these two issues are linked. The impact fees that will help create some of the public space and the tax abatement because they will not be financially linked in terms of one document or one payment. If the impact fee things don't happen I could not support the tax abatement. And you are saying that that might not be true for you. Baker/ No, I am not saying that at all. I said without that in F03894 - -- = ~~:_.' .~ ==.,i 1,.,,';',.. \", ,II" ,0 I " ,', ' ".,.'",.1,... 1" . , ' , .', --,,__ '''','_..m~_",: ~'~ .1 . I , , I I I I' I 1" uD.. ,'., ", ,.,.....': ,',-ro.,. .',': '.,,:,:);' ", ' ., ";,:~,, ,!' , ,>,', . :,' ",~~~., : .. ,,\1,,'. , .",'.. .' ',~, I" ), '" .;.', , , , , " , ,', ',..." ",'.;\ ' ~ ,.. . . ,'" , . ::::.,~_.!~;..:'...... .... '-~ .. , ' .' , ,,'.,' , . " " . , ' , :. "'_~:'_~~'''''o '~','~'';''C)'::i::;' :,:;'_' ,",.';:li .',::'-.';;,' "o':~",_ ~ ,~. w '..;...~, 'C. "~"~.__.'._.""_ _._ _ C._ _'._..n__~__.'._'____.Q ,__ I ' #14 page 9 place I wouldn't support the revitalization plan that included tax abatement. Kubby/ And I am saying that those two things are connected for me because I could not support a revitalization plan for tax abatement purposes unless these impact fee that help create other public amenities is linked to it. And because we haven't really thoroughly flushed all of that out I a~ not sure that council would agree that-I am sure we can come up with something but I need to see what that is before we agree to the district. ,', . c'" \ \ Baker/ We also, you and I and maybe Jim, we will have another discussion about the whole concept of parking in that area and whether or not how big a ramp, if a ramp. I, for example I see a ramp down there close to that area south of Burlington. Not on Burlington. I would never support a parking ramp that is lined up on Burlington. To make all of the commercial development occur you can tax abatements and everything else but you are going to have to have some sort of parking and I just think that there is a quid pro quo here and it is not to give you tax abatement and we take it all back for parking. That is not anywhere in my field of vision. But there has got to be some balance, some formula where we offer incentives and if we do work on what Jim and Bruno are talking about with the other amenities down there that also acts as an added incentive to development in that area. I think that is a vital part of development of that commercial area which is the start of their plan. Pigott/ It is also a link between what some people are calling separable plans which I sort of disagree with. I think the beauty of this plan is that it does integrate these area in impact fees and makes it possible politically as well as insures that this process really does go forward. {';\ \J , , ..... Baker/ I do not disagree with you at all in the hypothetical sense. I would prefer these things are done in conjunction. What I have always said I wish we can find a way to make this particular proposal in front of us go. Pigott/ And this would do that. i i , I I I' II ~ Baker/ And I would like it to go as soon as possible and- pigott. This would not delay it significantly I don't think. It would delay it. Baker/ That is a judgement that you and I disagree on. I think-I am willing, for example, to say no to this project if we can't ~ F03894 t~' t, .' ~ , , {( __~~'.n~. ~-".~ ~i I,. - \~ : ):""" ',; 0,;.',' ,\:,'" ".,! ,:, I" '',) r:.. ~ J l'\\' " 0". ',,.,' '"" ~" r I. . r , .,,\ C~.\ \1 . ,~ r,~(~ II I- I I i . I i I I .~: , . I \ i ' ',~I) \,.../ , :iI , ",~"~:',,',',', ,I) ~{ ~ I' l ~i' f;,\" \".,~"" 1'- ,,';' ,'" .' ,;'Y,i ., "... " '\, ' ,'..~w, r, ," ~ . ., "'.,. ," :,....'" . ,. " ,:~. __......c_,",._",.;,'. ','..."...._" '.' ..:-,.~~..,~",..;..,.,.-~:;.-...;::..;.'c' ,:.',. ',~,;'., ,;~",~ :...;,.,.:.:.>. " #14 page 10 get the underlying zone conditions agreed on. But if we can I think we can speed up the process. Throg/ Fascinating listening. I must admit I am going to be totally fascinated by the collective mind and action. Particularly with regard to this particular decision I see us struggling to try to do what is best for the city. I don't have any doubt about that whatsoever. And seeing each of us trying to articulate different points of view that we think are consistent with the best interests of the city is really quite fascinating and seeing us trying to struggle to find some kind of resolution that will preferably satisfy all of us and if not, at least a majority. So it is really intriguing to see that. So, let me say some more specific points. Like Ernie, I don' t consider the area to be blighted and I do firmly support revitalizing the areas south of Burlington generally in accord with the near South Side Plan. I think that would be good for the d.t and good for the community as a whole. Generally for that Near South Side Plan. The questions are with regard to the particular plan before us, commercial revitalization plan, the questions are first whether tax abatement is needed to make the area redevelop as we would prefer and then secondly whether the benefits, the overall benefits, of that redevelopment out weigh the costs of the abated taxes. I have talked to a bunch of people as you have, all of you have. I have read all of the stuff we have received. Listened to all these people talk in the p.h. and learned a great deal. And I find that I am not persuaded that tax abatements of the size requested or of the size indicated by legislation given the property value involved are needed to make the desired kind of redevelopment occur within a reasonable amount of time. I am not convinced that the abatements are needed to make that happen. I am also not convinced that the current plan provides sufficient public benefit. So, as a result of that, Bruno and I worked pretty hard to come up with an idea that we thought would provide adequate public benefit that would warrant us giving a plan our firm support and you know we presented that last night and we really appreciated the way you listened and talked about it. I guess I won't belabor the details of that because we all talked about it last night. I sense some excitement on the part of all or most of you about that. That is good. I guess another point that I would like to make is that I can recall many statements by members of the council about how we should not focus on Mrs. Hieronymous's project. That it was crucial not to do that and I got to admit I found it terribly ironic that we are being asked not to talJc about her project but to project about the \~hole plan while at the same time being urged to act quickly so that Mrs. Hieronymous can build her project. The irony cannot escape me. I think that stifles F03894 o ..0 ' ",!' .,',,' l i I I ,.. . , " ._,.__:._,A.'_'._'.__... " , 10"'., I"'" /:, , ''':'':',\'.'',-, ~ !"."~': ;Eim'.!1'. ' ,', ;" .. -...., '... ,...'~'''' /, '., I .,..\ :' ...'......, ' \ \ \l n . ,", ;,0'-(-\ II \ . I I~ I I i i I k. · r; ! I ! " l.,,;/ \~"'-' ~~( o .. .. " .- . ..", . '~,~t~'i'l ~ "I" .,:l.' ,', ", '. .', . , . " , " ~..~' '~ "''''',.' '. . ", :,-.~,.:,:" ""n_'._,.._,,_., ,_~c_ "._ ,.,;....."',~,.....,.,,'_...,_..~,,. . #14 page 11 debate in an unproductive way and so that bothers me. Let's see I have a- I guess, over all my sense is that I cannot support resolution #14. I will vote against it. My sense is that we need to adopt a plan that has difference boundaries that involves incentives and an impact fee that Mrs. Hieronymous and others who build in the area would both benef it from and in a sense have to pay. And also a commitment from the council to act on a revised plan for the area. So I would like to just encourages to adopt the amended kind of plan that Bruno and I were suggesting last night. Nov/ I think revising the plan certainly is not unheard of. We came up with the Near South Side Plan a couple of years ago. Looking at this plan as part of our general revision of our comp plan and our general vision for the future of the city is certainly something we should do. However when we are starting to talk about impact fees and applying them to tax abatement I am not comfortable. And I now this uncomfortable feeling is very similar to what you are saying because I really believe that if a project, a development, whatever you want to call it has an impact in a certain direction, this impact is something they should pay for and it should not have anything to do with tax abatement. So I am back to Larry's idea that if we are going to put impact fees into this we should do it as part of the general zone, not as part of the tax abatement process. So I am going to say okay, let's look at this change in the zone. Let's see what kind of recommendation you can get from the staff and let's look at the schedule of setting a p.h. on March 28 for the April 12 to get what kind of revisions the zone should have in terms of impact fees or whatever else. Is this what you are talking about. Baker/ Can I ask a couple of questions here. Jim, I want to ask you a question. You are not sure that tax abatements are necessary for redevelopment as an incentive for redevelopment of the commercial district. Is that what I heard. Throg/ Not quite. I think what I said is tax abatements of the size mandated by the legislation that we are following. If we have a $9 1/2 million building, that translates, by law, into a $1.3 abatement. There is no justification economically for that. It just derives from the legislation. Gentry/ You can lower the'schedule somewhat but all of that- Throg/But we have to do that for every other project, both within this area and any other similar area. Gentry/ For whatever schedule you can choose to adopt. lower that tax abatement but you can't increase it. You can You can F03894 1ft. - ',j;!,":'; ,\ , . " O' '" "",', ",': , ,'/ :"1"1:,',,, . ".' , 'I" IS . ' I I , I I I ! " ,ld: '.,",".'.' .. ' !\ ' ~8.<1"~'1mi .._w.......'_ I, .l '':',~ \ \ \1 \,\ 0.: i I 1'1 I III I !i I i ~: I , 'I :; 1\ , , ,I, \:' ~;'/ ,( 0 .., ,f.' , '.'," .tW.': ". . .-..' "r , ... , '. . :::' ";".,.",,,:,'.';:,1,.. #14 page 12 adopt a lower schedule. Nov/ But whatever schedule we follow has to be part of the- Gentry/ It has to apply to all of the properties in that classification. ' Schoon/ Every schedule has to be the same in every urban revitalization area. So the schedule would have to be the same in the Block 62 Urban Revitalization area. You can adopt a different schedule and this gets more complicated. If the area is also designated urban renewal area then under the urban revitalization plan you can adopt. Kubby/ So if we wanted to decrease the to lower the schedule we would have to go back and amend the other revitalization plan we have for affordable housing that was specifically spurred by that. Schoon/ Right. Baker/ Again, for clarification. It is not the concept of tax abatement. It is the amount of tax abatement that was the hang up. Throg/ certainly not the concept. I am not objecting the concept at all. I think providing incentives to redevelop the area are fine. What I think is necessary is some way of providing public space for public use and other desired activities that we talked about last night in that larger area and how precisely we do that I think we should leave to staff. But what I imagined was either impact fees or some other equivalent. Maybe what David was just talking about in terms of a combination of a revitalization plan and urban renewal so that you can combine capabilities. Baker/ I do want to make it clear because this is complicated enough without us being confused and us confusing the public which would be the first time I am sure. But the reason I ask the question is because if we want to talk about levels of tax abatement. There is a lot of subjectivity in anything that we do anyway and now we are dealing with another level of subjectivity and other things are already in place and it seems that when your discussion last night of your plan it is very clear that part of your plan involved tax abatements to spur that development. And I just assumed that you would have wanted for that area and that kind of revitalization a real incentive. If you are going to use tax abatement you want a real incentive as much as possible to make it happen which is what we seem to be doing in the commercial district. But are F03894 - ~---. ,. - ), , . . " ':" '0 .. " . '" - ,.. . , '._,. I I~ , t~ l:~ '~ ~ I 'I r... .. ...~ 0, " , " !Jl!:r.\!1i, . ," 'T\.! I" ! Iii I 11 I I I i I ~f I I' , ! . , : i I , 1,._: ~."-- JI ( ., '~ \: i!J'ri " ioo' ~ is !~Wi :\i\~ ,...~~- " ,~ i "f , ," \\ I, ~ ,,"' . "'~, ......,', ~ .~.. " , .',~ ~...; ~--",:_,.." ..",'".....",..".. -~-,..'- ,. .-._".,_.-,,,~,,-,, ",,;',"; ',; ,,:. ,', '"' .' #14 page 13 you saying you don't think we need to do that anyway. Throg/ I think what I was trying to say was that I was reacting to the plan that is before us and making comments about it. And so I was suggesting that the tax abatement either was too large or else the public benefits deriving from the project didn't in my mind justify that magnitude of tax abatement. Now there are other ways to proceed and some combination of incentives and impact fees or something else that gets direct public benefit and public use would be- Baker/ I guess one of the things that people want to go forth at this point need to do it outline in your minds and to the public what we perceive as those benefits to be if we adopt this plan with certain provisions in the zoning ordinance. We can talk about a public benefit being a new building. There is a legitimate sense that an increase in the taxes generated from that property is a public benefit. There is no irony there. We will get, if this project goes through, more tax money than if it doesn't go through. And so we benefit the public because we can take that money and pour it back into that area or put it into the general fund and pend it somewhere else. Nov/ And we can put it into anything that we want. The river trail or anything that occurs anywhere in the city. Baker/ And if we want to redevelop that area this particular project and at this point I don't mind talking about the project because I am doing this with a clear sense that once I get satisfied on the plan I want to have the plan used a quick as possible. I have always had a hang up with the plan. Now it in place, if we can do something as soon as possible let's figure out a way to do that. Once you are comfortable with the underlying zone and the plan. I think we can do that with this schedule assuming that we get four people to agree on what the underlying zone is. And in the long run I want to use tax abatement again. I want to use it exactly for your plan and at the same level. I want to spur development down there along that creek and that residential area and I go on record right now I would like to see us close that one block of Dubuque street and do something there. I don't know what but do something there as far as public space goes and I think that is going to further increase the viability of the commercial area, set up that plan that you want, stimulate that gaSOline station across the street on Dubuque. Indeed, if we can get it going as soon as possible with a plan that we are comfortable with, there is a great deal of public benefit to be derived from that because it sets the stage for doing what you want to do very shortly thereafter. F03894 t~~ ~ ..,~~._- . =r'. - .:O"')'i" r, ,'-',.'" ',' .,,:,;, - ,"' . . ,,',-...-..-,--------.-., ["" 10"", i~ 'i, (\' < .~-~ ," "-< . , ., </:'\' ,!, ",. " ',,/' '::"',W:. ,,"' '.. . '..... , I I ., ,,', '.. ~'.. ' ~ "-.,., tI" . ", . . , .,. ,...,.,._..,~-;:L::..." ,',_'..', .,._,_.._. ". .,__._::__:.,_._,_.,,_.~. _,,,,",;--!;i""4.1.';; ,!,:.'.....,;", "~~ ,:...,...'..,-'._-,.:..,,,..,'.. ,........" ....-...:,-....--- . \ \ #14 page 14 Pigott/ The interesting thing is that it does encourage and there is a benefit and it encourages the growth of that area, the public space there. The benefit that everyone who is in that area will receive and we will pay for. Again it is like adding an additional incentive on top of the abatement in adding another incentive to those people and I see that as only enlarging in a way the attractiveness of the area which isn't that big. However since they benefit from it shouldn't those people in that area contribute to it. Baker/ I want to make very clear the big difference between what seems to be happening tonight and in the near future as opposed to what we discussed in the past. There will be a significant contribution under a revised underlying zone by any developer. Not just this particular project but by any other developer that goes in there and we will-we have changed the terms here. We are getting much more back then before. Throg/ Just a clarifying question because we haven't had a chance to talk about changing the underlying zone. I gather from previous conversations that what you mean is providing an impact fee to facilitate sooner earlier construction of a parking facility in that area. Now that certainly would provide an incentive for developers to build new commercial office buildings south of Burlington. I see that very clearly. Baker/ And with the change in the underlying zone they are in a sense paying for the. Throg/ What I don't see in that concept is how any of those impact fees come back to benefit the public in terms of direct public use and public space for public use or for subsidizing some units of affordable housing like we talked about last night or for providing for a creek walk along Ralston Creek or any other similar public- Baker/ Because, as you well know Jim, you will never be able to withdraw from a developer, whether d.t. or non the fringes, a 100% of the cost on public infrastructure. you will get very close in some cases and not close in other cases. This, at least, gets more out of it than we did before. And you are right, this will not pay for every public amenity down there. We are going to have to put more money into it. But there is the indirect benefits down the line that will flow from that. It will make the area more attractive for developers that is true. The development helps us also. There is this connection and I think we all realize that. It is how much can we get back without killing the incentive for the development. KUbby/ The problem for me is a political one. And usually things o ,-1 1;:. I I 1 I I I I i I ~ I . I i I '"~I ," ',,1 I .' ~ F03894 'I " " ~' I'. l (C' O~ - . -. . ",).;. ['" ~,.. i 0 'J 5 O' ! "', ~, ., ~ . ,.' ~ .' "~"~I"~ I,..' ,'" " ~,i"'l .",.-.,;': '::'\,,'," " ~""'; .' '" . '\f" . , "',W,~' , . ~ , .. , , I . ',",' , " ' -.. ~ ' ~ '-..,., . .,.. " . '. -"-;}_:~...,'-, . "::"';;~;"'_:'-"- ",;"",-.., ~'A ~". ..,_. _.._~_.."___,"_, _~,:.... _,_._,..:..._ . I I I , #14 page 15 like this are not talked about. But if we go ahead with this plan I have nothing to negotiate with you about about impact fees because you already have. It may be that people up here don't want to do the parking thing. You have already given away your chip, Larry. Baker/ Explain that. '- Kubby/ If you say yes to the current plan and the reason that you are doing that is because you believe that we can find something you will find acceptable to negotiate about in terms of parlting impact fees. But it doesn't happen. Like people say yes, I will discuss it. But it doesn't happen to your satisfaction. You have given away- Baker/ Whoa. That ain't going to happen. Because if we don't get an agreement on parking fees and impact fees and changes in parking I will certainly vote no. '" Nov/ And he can vote no at the third reading and kill the whole thing. ;---.v, ,,~' /, '~ KUbby/ Assuming that the timing is sufficient. After looking at the work plan last night, what are you going to bump. I mean, to fast track what you are talking about means redoing some of the work plan that we talked about last night and agreed to. So you are also not only having to negotiate all of these issues with all of these people but you have to negotiate how are we going to move the Planning Department's work plan to make sure it happens and the timing for what you just said is true. Baker/ Karin Franklin. Nov/ You were shaking your head and we wanted to know how significant that was. , i~I~-\ . I ~. Franklin/ If the council would like to pursue this avenue, the changes that you are talking about in terms of the zoning ordinance changes are in terms of the text not significant. It will take five minutes to insert something in there in terms of a requirement for commercial and office. I Ii II , I I I , ~~ 'I. I i I 'I; ! I ~,.y ~( ~'-" ~~,'~ J' Iii. l._..'\ Baker/ As far as the process of going through P/Z and- Franklin/ The process. It goes through P/Z and through the city council and then that is as quickly or as slowly as you mal{e it. I don't see this as a significant piece of the Urban Planning Division work program and if the council is inclined to move in this direction there are other ways we can pick up F03894 ([ 0 _~ -~. _ -= :- . ), , Q,. ,'1 j~ '. I [t .,'.",'" ~i1if .' ..,." , ", ... I r I, ,'~ I' . \ \. ~ : ~ I I I I I" I" , . i , I ! I 'I 1# 1'1',:,,' .{~ l~ . (" , r II I, I '-- t., , ,. , ,\, '. . , .' "'t' " ':: '. ,,~j, .,. "I . ,;'..' , " , , ", :-~.., " ',' "'''.d , " :,_..j'.:.:;::,,,.,"--,,.._-_:._... ' ,-.. ~" ' . - '.- "'~""~"""_""".''''''',<.,l.l'.'_',o,~~,,,.., :,~",;...'",;.',;C''-h':_'--''" #14 page 16 that work in the department. Kubby/ But the thing is is that Larry seems to be just focusing in on parking. There are other issues that I am more interested in. Baker/ For the commercial zone. Franklin/ In terms of the urban revitalization plan for the entire area that would not be a work item in the Urban Planning Division's work program anyway. That is an economic development. Kubby/ By working on the bigger plan and by talking about public amenities and impact fees for public space. Franklin/ That will be in Economic development. I will assign it to David. Kubby/ And what program does trying to find ways to say if you get tax abatement you need to provide some kind of affordable housing. Franklin/ We will coordinate that between David and the Community Development Division. We will get input from the community Development Division to David's work. There is ways to work around the work program. Baker/ But Karen you are not thinking about affordable housing in the CB-5 zone are you. KUbby/ No. I am saying that I can't agree to tax abatement in the CB-5 zone unless I get affordable housing south of Court street. Baker/ In a separate area and a separate kind of development. Kubby / I am saying they are connected because of the timing of things. I can't agree to one without the other. Baker/ My philosophy about impact fees is they have to be related to the development. The impact of the development. Horow/ Not just your philosophy but to be legal. Baker/ I have a legal philosophy. Throg/ Clearly they have to be. Any impact fee- Horow/ It comes down to a matter of trust Karen. I think we all F03894 o 0., " ", .',' I , I,', . ,,"' " ',' ;--,~,-,----- ~ (D i ~ f) ! 10',' """,," ,,',. .'. ' . t\ ' ~ ., ,', i ", ' I~""..,I', ,", "'~t~\\r , "., , ^" ..' '.' ,;, ,~ , t>-' " \, '-,',' '; "'.1', ';..... , . ." '..,.~,.,,;.~ ,~~".i~__,~...,,,~_,~.,, ..,.~;"....:. -', "'. , " ",,:' ""~""'~"'''-''- ". .,_..,'-,.,-~--_._-,-_..:--_.._,._,._,-~., . #14 page 17 agree and have agreed for a number of years in terms of the affordable housing aspect of south of Court. Kubby/ I disagree because the plan that it is an incentive. I felt there was a very good way to demand that there would be replacement of affordable housing and a majority of council said that it can be incentive and not a mandate. And I believe one way to show commitment is to say that it has to happen. Council chose not to do that and that is where that thought comes from. Horow/ In this manner. I guess I would- "',,1 Kubby / Well, are people committed to linking tax abatement and affordable housing. Baker/ Isn't that what Jim talked about last night. Horow/ We talked about it. Not in this area. Nov/ Not in this area that we are currently discussing. It would have to come in a separate discussion of tax abatement south of Court street. Kubby/ I hear what you are saying. I disagree with you. Baker/ You disagree with what though. Tell me what you disagree with. i~~ (\ \) '\ ~ I' 1 Kubby / I disagree that I want to get this whole thing in one package because I want to look at it all at once. I think it is not prudent to look at one section because if the other section doesn't happen. It is complicated. I hope we can work it out. But I don't want to leave that to chance. . Baker/ By the same token I am not going to hold up the commercial revitalization with a clear plan that seems to be materializing now for a plan that we are going to work on shortly there after. Karen, you have my commitment. I think you have the commitment of everybody on this council to address this issue. We didn't scoff at Jim and Bruno's plan. It is an intriguing plan and I think some version is going to happen in the very near future. Throg/ Could I ask a clarifying question. I have heard Naomi talk about having separate areas- Nov/ Separate criteria for residential areas and this is to me logical. Same tax abatement criteria for commercial development do not necessarily apply to residential. . ;q I \ I, ~~ " F03894 ~"I'!" r ~: ,~t f~W. , ,I-\., , "', -"' ,rr;=~-=:~~l, = . , ), -~-),: '\ .::' , , .0, , ""..', I , j"'" ,) c. " "',) 10, " , ,'" " , ~:\, " "'~" ,;' ," ',.. , ,~:',.r': I' , " 'A . "-:;':, ..t.ll, ,'.'1 !' .' .'~' ~, I ' , ~'.. "';'". , '.. ..' i I I I I '~, . . " ' ~:,' ':~"""_'~:"~' .J.>'....','~,~_.'_~~.,,___ _ ' . . " , .. , ' " , ._"..._' _., -",';~::'.~, /-", :; '..i"_:':':':"'~'~' ~':.: ,i, : .:_ ..; .,; . .-.. , ..". .-;" : ,; > , '''.,..".''"'.....,_.......,.w_..__.._..._.._..,.c~_.'1 I ! ' , 'i , #14 page 18 Throg/ And we are proposing tonight to adopt a revitalization plan for a three block area. Do you see that area as having one revitalization plan and then another area, kind of like- including the area south of there but not including that area, in being included in a second revitalization area. is that the way you see it. Baker/ At least. Jim, I don't want the public to be misled by a possible 4-3 vote. That does not indicate dissatisfaction or opposition to your plan. Baker/ I hear you very clearly about that. I am just trying to understand how you are drawing boundaries. See a different way to think about it would be to have this three block area and then amend it to include the southern part so that there is not two areas with two revitalization plans but ultimately one area with one revitalization plan. I am just trying to understand what you mean. Lehman/ Then the commercial is going to have an exemption for residential. You build more than a certain amount of residential you won't get tax abatement which obviously- ';~r" 11\ I~ I II i I I [ .U 1\:'. : I i I i i i ',I, .) ,'1.".- -, Throg/ It depends on how we write the plan. Lehman./ It would have to be two separate plans. Throg/ It would depend on how we write the plan. Kubby/ So in my mind if people are wanting to separate them then my original statement of saying that I find tax abatement acceptable only if there are certain kinds of public amenities for public benefits that are greater than tax dollars coming in because I believe this place will revitalize itself with some help that we are already helping to do to spur it. That then in this 3 1/2 block area I don't agree with the philosophy of tax abatement because the plan can include some of these things. So I probably would- Baker/ Aren't the taxes coming in greater than the abatement. Kubby/ They are. I am not saying that it is not a nice project. That the specific Hieronymous project isn't good. I am not saying that I don't want commercial development in a dense way there. I am saying that I cannot support tax abatement in this area unless there are some other public benefits besides tax dollars and that is not going to happen. It might happen south of Court Street but it is not happening here. " , ?\~-<.; f;r~, 'I~''''; L_,.': F03894 ~G ...~ _.~ ,', ,.., , ,'- ~~ "~ ':' 0 "",'".'/ ",'" ):. ': " , ; ~i' " "I,'" , '. "'I""'"'' " )5 . [d', ':,",..'i ',. " .~' . ' ., "',: 'S'~' , . "',:" ," '.~ I', ',' , ,~. -~'.." - . "',,,'- '" , " ': ,.,'. ...., , ,'-,., : ~' , " . :~ . ' _"."w__ ._"_~.. '_"_"~,.".._.._ . ' . " , __ _ "~_,__'A~"'" .:.:0.::.. .,"c"- -,:,;,,(..L"_ 'a~,l ,'.', '.. '. ':or.. ,,""~ .'_',~,""" ,,'"'. " ,.:...._ .__. #14 page 19 CHANGE TAPE TO REEL 94-50 SIDE 1 Baker/ public benefit in a tangible, in a tangible concrete manifestation of a public benefit. Kubby/ I'm saying that the tax dollars aren't enough to warrant supporting tax abatement. Lehman/ But they support the tax system. They do a lot of things for the public benefit. Kubby/ I understand that. I'm not denying that at all. I'm saying that- ~._- Baker/ Well let me ask you this, Karen. What other in the commercial and the CB5 zones are we talking about? What other tangible public benefit do you want to see happen? Kubby/ I'd like to see affordable housing in that 20%, in that 20% of the building that can be housing. I'd like to see some pavement for Dubuque Street or some- I know not legally but in terms of the timing of things I'm talking about public space on Dubuque Street. Baker/ It may be that, by good lawyering, a definition of impact fees used for parking or parking problems might even include some part of, if you're dealing with transit and traffic and all of this other stuff, might include some of that money being used for the Dubuque Street renovation. I don't know. , But it doesn't rule it out I don't think right away unless Linda's going to shake her head immediately and say it' s absolutely impossible. Kubby/ But I'm saying that I can't up front agree to it unless I know that those things can happen. Nov/ You're not going to get a written guarantee that they will happen today, but yes they can happen. pigott/ Yes but Larry'S saying the same with the parking. You ]cnow he would like a commitment to parking as part of, or he cannot agree to this and Karen's saying I need other things and other things are just as important to her as his issues are and I think that's just as fair to say that. Baker/ Okay but affordable housing in the 20% residential. So if a project comes in with no residential in it they don't get a tax abatement. ,,............ [~\ ! " , '. ;:'f';' , , . , rl I I t I i I I~~; ! . I , \ i ) \' ; \,'~/ WI ,J' l!~J F{t l"'" , --"\,,; Kubby/ The way we're going to amend the plan no the residential F03894 .C~"~~ -_ ~. .~ n' = ,',,".., ) """':','" , J\ " - , , , 0 ' , ~',' ': ..,'" ,1 " ~ I " I ..' . - .. ,. 'I I I i I I '';' "?~': 10:, , ",." .,-.'.'1 ,'" ' ,'\. :::iJ..:~~i..1' I .\ -'~ , \ \ I \ \ \ ~ : I I' I I If i '~ , : I ~ i'~;~" I,"l~,', :',.",p~ .' ~ " 1 , , "--'" C~. , ., ...'~ i ' :,,'. - "~ \\ t.:, " '". '.' '" . ".;: , '" . , ,,_,'~ _{.~,." ~ ,'h , ,.-"".~.,_. ;'. \ "..." '", ," #14 page 20 part would not be. And I'm saying if those units or some percentage of those units are affordable and in our section 8 program that tax abatement should apply. Nov/ I don't agree. I really don't want to encourage large amounts of residential development in that area between Burlington and Court because I think it's the area where our commercial development belongs. Kubby/ But we're limiting it. We're saying only 20% of the building for tax abatement. NOV/ If I had my wish it would say zero. Kubby/ Well we disagree. Pigott/ The majority says 20% and Karen saying that 20% ought to be affordable. Throg/ And on that particular point Naomi I think there's a lot of literature that says it's very good to have residential activity in and near d.t. areas for public safety reasons so that people can walk safely at night because there's activity throughout the day because people are living there as well as working there. So I think it would reinforce some of the things you care deeply about. Horow/ I think I agree with Jim in terms of literature I've read but it in many cases has talked about people who own some of the retail above which they live. And I guess I don't see that in the same sphere as Karen is talking about in terms of affordable housing. I would like us to move on on that. Nov/ May I say one more thing. I had a phone call today from a gentleman who thought the picture in the paper was wonderful because it looked as if we were dedicating so many blocks to pedestrian only traffic. And it looks as if they had this huge new building that was covering 2 1/2 blocks. It was amazing. Can we please get a corrected picture. Horow/ I'd like to bring this all together. I think all of us have been certainly excited about Bruno and Throg's project. From my point of view, I find it fascinating that this redevelopment, revitalization area, part of its origin came from deliberate attempt to protect the historic near business that's on the north side. To deliberately thwart development up there and crowd all that area that we have and so for closing Dubuque Street on that part and working on projecting a need to want to cross the street I think that's absolutely fascinating. I really really appreciate. And like Jim I find F03894 "J m-" ~O),:"" . ',,;.,""...,,' ,;'" . .,... . - .,.' . r"'.' >'5 ~b~ rc-~ 0 ..~ ';'i" 1t~~1' ,',. ;' I~ ' " .. ", " " ,c.,- C~'\ ,~, 'A""":' T'f I~ I " 1:1 Ii ! I I I I I . I~~ I, /I[ II ' , I ~,IJ; ,p.{ " ,"',1" " "t ""."\" ,', '\,. <, !'. '" ,. , ", ...,y'. .,', " " :, 1 ,"' , ',", . ;'\ " . ,__~, ,._EL.~~_.,.,....".,. ",';j_ ..,..,.....:,o..;~.'.::.., , ,__,_,_.___'_.'w_,,_,'-._. #14 page 21 I i I it fascinating to watch how different brains can function together and work for the best of the city. This city, this council and previous councils have been consistent on wanting to work on revitalization in this area. We've been consistent on our commitment to the concept of using fiscal tools. And I believe that we've been consistent in acknowledging that local government can take an action to cause something to happen and I am very, very comfortable with supporting item #14 because I believe that it gets the whole thing started. I, we've got a motion on the floor by Lehman, it's been seconded by Nov. Roll call- Baker/ Wait a minute, can I ask one clarifying question. You've got to grant me this. Sue in your mind what's the advantage of voting for 14 vs 16. Horow/ In voting for 14, I'm taking the original plan and going forward with it. setting on the 29 of March setting the p.h for the 12 on the amendment. We're looking at changing the zone. Put the impact fee in there and working on the amendments for design review, the maximum of 20% for residential, and taking- refocusing the language in this to be for economic development rather than a- commitment. Balcer/ Okay. And the underlying revisions to the zone itself. The timetable for that at least- Gentry/You can't set that hearing until the 12 after you've approved the plan. Baker/ What I want to get clear in my mind is indeed the fact that those things we'll have a chance to vote on those revisions before we make a final decision on this plan. Gentry/No. You can informally discuss it but you cannot take formal action on an amendment before you've approved the plan. Baker/ When's the last consideration of this ordinance. Gentry/ The ordinance should be- The last consideration of that should be when you adopt the plan. April 12. Baker/ Okay. And this can be if necessary deferred as long as it takes to get the underlying zone changed. Kubby/ Because you don't want to have a final vote on the plan. Baker/ I can't vote on the plan until the zone change. It's very clear. " F03894 v_ , ,:,:8,,,],,. )'5' 0 ",-,'" , ", ,\" '. '''''~'' ,'"'..'..' , " '. ~. . ;' ., ,," , ," ,~', I . ".,~'. , ",t \\!,~ , , '~. ~'3 i' " .~' ' t>- . " . , '~'1' I,: "'.,'" ~ . :':':';';::.I..~:,:'i-::,:,:'~i';,: . '..' ',"..: '.... """.~,:">,,;,, """'":':h''-''''"'':''''__''''-~'-''' ~' ,:"",'":~""'-";",,^..,",,,,,,,".,..,,- .' #14 page 22 Karr/ You can set a p.h. as Linda's indicated on your schedule on March 29 if that's the day of your formal meeting. On the zone changes for April 12. Which means then that you'll have your p.h. and a recommendation from the PZ on the zone changes before you on April 12. The impact fee ordinance change is- we can start to work on and you can have something before you on the 29. That does not require going to the PZ because that's a revenue ordinance. It's not a zoning ordinance Gentry/ It's not a zoning ordinance. Franklin/ I also don't know that that one requires a p.h. Gentry/ It does not. Franklin/ Okay. Kubby/ So I want to be clear what these impact fee issues are. We're talking about a parking impact fee on commercial property. Is that correct. We're talking about some kind of impact fee for pUblic use of public space, to create some public space. Baker/ No we're not. We're talking about a parking impact fee. Kubby/ Okay so the only thing that we've got negotiated in here is parking. Pigott/ Is parking. That's right. Kubby/ Okay so how are affordable housing issues and public space for public use getting incorporated into the people benefitting- Baker / First of all affordable housing is probably not getting incorporated into this plan. , t\ ! i, I <I I I I Nov/ Not into the CB5 zone. It could be in the next plan. Kubby/ I'm not talking about- I'm talking about- If we're going to do ordinance changes we have to do it for this one for CB5 and for the zone south. I I , I if I I' ' : i II I" /, 'c " .,,---.. . ' Franklin/ The other thing we could bring you on the 28 and 29 is a plan for the south area which would include your- an urban revitalization plan for abatement for affordable housing and if you wish to have included in that impact fees for public space that can be part of your consideration to balance- Kubby/ How does public space on Dubuque Street get paid for. Why ~ ,'.' ~l "",' ''J . {'t'l 'I': ;" 1, ' I'?~' , ij';{',~~ , "P',. F03894 w............;. ~((~-'~....._-_.~ - .. == ~ , ' o ',j'..",'. J,,"" '..".,..',',,'...", " - Ij,~., ~1 'I ;I .. I I', '" '"u. ", )~ 0" '. '." ,,',. " "1\'" ';'1 .11;'l!!iill' ,-.,--"..'':, i ,'I ,~_. I, ' ~ ,\ i ,-'\ , I \~ !' ", ': " , ,~.(\ I, \ ~ I . I I 1 I , r:; i I c~."" \~..., '~ " . '1'..,",.' 11'\ . *~ " ,( " ~' , --- '~__""_", ,cO'; .' 'yO' '.:\,:,:'" 'It",' ",'..W:. ". ".. ",', ",'::" , "'; ',' .t>- . ,:1, .' '; " ."" "', y,',,,: "",......,:; " ,; " , . .. , ',' , " :~:,_. ._..;.....:.,'-,,',,;'",,~i,,:li.>.:.:.:."--d;.'.::i.:.::;'~,,;;'.,:,~:...il-~','.',~,.'.::.i~;~:,.'...'_ "" "". ,..'.."'"'____m_ _. ___ #14 page 23 aren't people in the CB5 going to be required to helping contribute. Pigott/ Why aren't they going to be required to pay for that. Gentry/ Because that's a city wide need and you can't impose an impact fee for a city wide need. That's very clear in the law. Baker/ That's directly related to the development. Gentry/ If you want to include affordable housing it's appropriate in the plan you outlined last night. It's perfectly appropriate as a tax abatement incentive. Kubby/ okay. So you're saying that- Say what you just said again. Gentry/ Affordable housing is one of the criteria in both urban renewable and tax abatement that you can ask and insert into your plan. You can also require a certain percentage of the uni ts be affordable housing. That's appropriate under the state tax law structure. Impact fees cannot slop over into tax abatement or urban renewal. Kubby/ Is it possible to have tax abatement offered to those who offer a certain percentage of affordable housing in their building. And have an impact fee so if you tear down affordable housing you either replace it with affordable housing, the same number of units or provide an impact fee. Gentry/ You do it in the plan but you don't call it an impact fee. You put it as one of the design criteria. Just as you've done in this plan. Kubby/ But if people don't want tax abatement they don't have to do it. So can we combine an impact fee with affordable housing. If people choose not to replace it then they don't get any tax abatement but they have to pay for it somewhere else. And have tax abatement for affordable housing. Horow/ Remember we want to encourage development. Kubby/ If you're tearing down affordable housing - Baker/ You're talking about south of Court aren't you. Kubby/ Yes. Baker/ Which I'm inclined to agree \~ith you but that's not the issue right here. F03894 , ' , ..,.",.,.,.,.",',. \ o .' 0." /:' '; ":'~:':",, ,; '\, "', ,"' . I I I j ~ ""'r:':''''~ " f.' /) , ,1:"0"" , 1, ~: , ,\ ,~': ,: r '" ,..--'7"'-' \ \ ~ /~ , ; I I I fi I 1,- I' , ~\:J '~ i-i~'.;,' C(' " ~,;:' }" l,. , . ',~, );" I .'" . 'I~ " '~ \. \ 1.-, - , ... . '.' , '-: , ~, " '""1"; . , " , ".' .', " ;,_. :;:~::'''':'''' -'" '. ,. ..,.._'"~,. .-,'.",;"',".,,," ,r" ";'.'"',"',~_.,_:"','"',,",,,,,, "" #14 page 24 Kubby/ I cannot support the CB5 zone tax abatement without affordable housing in it and this plan won't have it. Baker/ And I'm not sure affordable housing is a major issue for the CB5 zone this particular 3 1/2 block area. Kubby/ It is to me. Baker/ It might not be appropriate as a condition of that development of that zone. It's certainly appropriate south of Court street and we will have some version of that take place. Kubby/ I'm saying that I disagree that I think affordable housing should be looked at in this area. We're allowing residential and I think it should incorporate all kinds of it. Throg/ I'm a little curious about the impact fee and its relationship to the pUblic space idea on Dubuque. It strikes me that that kind of public space would provide a tremendous urban amenity for anyone who owned property along the eastern or western sides of South Dubuque Street which would include phase II of Mrs. Hieronymous's project. I don't exactly how the impact rationale, the rational nexus notion works, but it strikes me that if someone's going to benefit directly from something like that, it's not unreasonable to ask them to pay for some of the cost. Gentry/ Well the key issue is not benefit but need. She has not created the need. The city has created the need. In fact you as policy makers have designated that it is a public need that the whole city has, just like the pedestrian mall. Now the traditional sense of urban removal or urban renewal is you go in clear it out and start over. The city buys a property. You build the amenities. And I take it you're not interested in that approach. But for the impact fees you have try to tie it the developers who's created the need. This is a need you see as a city benefit not something the developer's created. The fact that those adjoining property owners as well as all the citizens will benefit from it is just a plus plus plus for everybody. But the fact that those adjoining property owners accrue the benefit of the that particular amenity does not answer the question. It's circular reasoning. You have to look at the need created by the developer whether I'm going to bring in a plant and I'm going to expand 500 cars on this street therefore I ought to have to pay for the public infrastructure to support 500 additional cars per day on that street. That's the impact. That's the need created by my development. There isn't- she hasn't created a need for the open space. You have. That's he difference. F03894 ..,"1. o ,0 " , /",.r' '/" . '..-- o ?slo, , ,";:~:,<(~ ' ,-'j.,' awl,: .,~<{t"', .~ ,1; , , ; ~ ,',I' ., ,,' . ,',' ' :~,~'~~~~;.;.~::':~'~~';~;~~~:,"~;.u.,~;i~,>~:.;",~~=;;:",,~,"""'''.",'''_':~"~~,.___~~,,._.~_,_~~....:_:.L:...;..:r.. ..;_____, '~ ,',,", ;.. ;'l ',\ #14 page 25 pigott/ Couldn't you argue that- Gentry/ It's need vs benefit. It's entirely analysis under the law Horow/ Are there any other discussions specific to this vote. Roll call- Baker/ I want to make it clear I'm voting yes but if the underlying changes aren't made it's going to be no eventually. Horow/ Carried 4-3. (Yes: Lehman, Nov, Baker, Horow. No: Throg, Pigott, Kubby) '-: r ~' '-', ---'\' " \, \ '~' ;1;. ~( I' " . I , .~ 1(, , F03894 " ~. .,(~~ , -~ ~ . )' . <, ,,'" '".,:",I"~:,,,,:, ''''':,'c:..'':'..'':'<'"'' . ,:..:: !~"....!",J>"-:';"":1','" "..,'"'" J'.......I, , ',;,.... ,','. .,.1', ",' J." J':" '\ . '- -~ '~~i:q_ ,.\" " '. ":", ~"" , ! " . ' " 'r:~"11 '"''''1;';''' 10' .::"':':",! . '.:,::, ";;,,, ~"l,. , , r I, ( , ,\: \\l ~ ,~ l'.\~~ I r 1 1" I I I I I I i I,~ jl{,. I , , II '~I./:, ",...~- ", ,ff '~'I' I', ( Jl ~J i",', ,Il'~ '.'.' l_~ [~, '. ..;',t',I '" . , , , "'. ' , :-"\1: ','I ,. , , , " '~ .1'" ....;" '. . '::", .,,:. -,....._'._,-"_.,' ..,., .._,..,~~. ..,.,~,_..,'....C ...._,'..~...;,';"'..._~:-...,.""".. ~",-,_,...^".,.......,.._ Agenda Iowa City City Council Special Council Meeting March 8, 1994 Page 9 ITEM NO. 15 . CONSIDER A RESOLUTION OF ABANDONMENT OF THE CURRENT URBAN REVITALIZATION PLAN KNOWN AS THE "NEAR SOUTHSIDE COMMERCIAL URBAN REVITALIZATION PLAN," AND DIRECTING STAFF TO PREPARE A NEW PLAN ENCOMPASSING THE CITY COUNCIL'S PROPOSED CHANGES. Comment: A majority of the City Council wishes to include a "design review" component in the existing Urban Revitalization Plan, Since such change is a substantive amendment to the Plan and may render the tax exemption status of the property owners flawed under Iowa tax law, abandonment ofthe current Plan is one option, ' If the City Council is willing to proceed with the Plan as originally proposed by the staff in January, without any substantive amendments, the City Council should reject this "resolution of abandonment" and let the legal process pro- ceed, If the Council wishes to "start over" with a new Plan. then the Council should pass this "resolution of abandonment." See memo from City Attorney, Action: Id1 / ~f#: '~l~ Prfd ~ ITEM NO. 16. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION DETERMINING NECESSITY AND SETTING A . PUBLIC HEARING FOR APRIL 12, 1994, ON A NEW NEAR SOUTHS IDE COMMERCIAL URBAN REVITALIZATION PLAN FOR A PROPOSED UR. BAN REVITALIZATION AREA IN THE CITY OF IOWA CITY. Comment: As noted in a memo from the City Attorney, if the City Council chooses to abandon the current Plan, and adopt a new plan for the three' block area, this resolution would put the new plan on a "fast track" by setting a public hearing for April 12, 1994, on the new plan, This should be passed only if the current plan is abandoned, and only if the City Council chooses to direct the staff to prepare a new plan, as noted in the City Attorney's memo, Action: ~b d;~A k h~ 1 ~ ~v ITEM NO. 17. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE REPEALING DIVISION I OF ARTICLE IV ENTITLED "COMMERCIAL PESTICIDE APPLICATION," CHAPTER 34, CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF IOWA CITY, IOWA. (SECOND CONSIDERATION) ~. . ...A.__....___ ! I 1 I Mia- ~ Ur> 1t#fJ I , .. , Comment: This ordinance repeals the "Commercial Pesticide Application" Ordinance passed January 18, 1994. Staff recommends expedited action. Action: ~1/J7ft;dJ JIld I/It f1 ~5/J ~ - "i, ',i ~,~.J,,:; 'I,) ~}' ,t fO''''!, ~ \. ,8 " , .""".-".'1 ---------~~~----_._--- ...,...-.. ,-..'.,',.. ',"'" , \, - ~"':{.,:y,::/,:~,! ~t.,.' ";::':..:i;",.",,.\, ., , ". ..~ ,.-;; ,k' r~\ J ,.'\' <,~--' I ~ :h I ~" IJJ ~ I., ., ,~f".' " ~ F, " \ , \ ~ j ~ I.._~ (( .'}',' ' , ;',....' , ,",' , " ,,"' " . , ..", .:...- ,_,'~:~~_''';'~'~''':..''-'''';I'.'''''''''':'",M'-'''''.~'''''''~~;;'J'.'-'~''"~..,,...,~~,.......:...:,,:~..;~~~,' __~_L_.;'.' , 'f,,; ,"..,',.", #15 page 1 Horow/ (#15) Is this moot. Gentry/ No. You should vote on it. Horow/ (reads #15) Moved by KUbby,seconded by pigott. At this point I wonder at this point if council would permit the owner of the property has asked to address council for a few minutes. Would you willing to have a representative- pigott/ Is there a need to know. Gentry/ You don't need to know. Horow/ Discussion. Roll call- (Yes: Pigott, Throg, Kubby. No: Lehman, Baker, Horml, Nov.) The resolution fails. F03894 ! I .< I i ,., T' I I . , o '- .'". ~-', __= .=--.2.,,,:/q:..,,'.), \'f. , , "''''''''''-' ' ' ..",;"'--" ,": - .' .................",..,..'..,....'1".."...'." 8 ' , , ./5 ;: ,'0/ . .'" " , ,. , ,'~' ",; ,~...,.., 1 '~' , -. "'.'...,-'.,.,,.,.. ":";,: .\ "f I :- - " J" .:1', ~~:(.f.'r;i"." ':':::':;'~,,'.: .. \~, , -, . \. ' ':' .,.',. ,:', ' _,'_ _ ':__:."_'n'_'_"~;':"-'-"__:":'''_'''''';-'--'--:.c ' ",' , " , #16 page 1 1 I i ! i .1 ., Horow/ (#16) council entertain a motion. Nov/ okay. I move. Kubby/ I second. , '\' " ,;1 NOV/ Can it die from a lack of a second. Gentry/ It can die. Kubby/ I withdraw my second. Nov/ Okay, let it die. We can just do it that way. Horow/ The second was withdrawn, the first was withdrawn. Item #16 has died for lack of a motion. I j I I i ! 1 .'~,'l , ~ ';; .. > , ~; " , , ",' ,.i ;.' , ", " f. , if I ,I (,:-'-; h'", " ":,',i ?' \";' \ : , '( ) i\1 F03894 ','1' ',~ , :(-~",.,"'-:, 1 " ,';i_ ~~ "2' '.' ."'.J/y; ;" "."".""0,,,...., ,,,\ " ...''-':,' ..~I)"'~ ~,_' ",,1;\ ,,.,,,11'1 :~,,:~; )~;. v.' ' ",~iX~'::" , , ',"" '.-.--.. '''--' ,.".-, ...."'"'1....--....., '..,"1' ""'-",,!i,"., ,'..",' ",' '., 0" \ ' " " , 5"'" ,', ,"J.ei'" ' ' ,',' , '.. 1. ,4 "'" ',' , ' . 'I '. -' ," ~,":,.',,:' , '.' I . , :, ,:. I , '< ! -","e,'"" ,,:,.,'i<' ~(:,,: :,:,,;':i~,'., ''- A; !:' :, , '10, '.'. i', ~. , , ,''',' '., ""," ' " ." " . "--: :;-'-',~,.,.,":"'-'':''--''-'-':''''''~''~''''''~---'~~-'''''';-'--'.~',:',..._-~ ." -.- Agenda Iowa City City Council Special Council Meeting March 8, 1994 Page 1 0 ITEM NO. 18 - CONSIDER A RESOLUTION RESCINDING RESOLUTION NO. 94-17 OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF IOWA CITY. " ,; Comment: See Item No, 17 above, This resolution rescinds the "registry fee" and should be approved only if the above ordinance is given final consid- eration, Action: ~~/,er dyPd cf %1 r2Lf aCt If' A ./ '\: ITEM NO. 19. AOJOURNMENT. !,ddy / Icf-t! ItJ. ~ ofl. ~ ..' mgrlagenda\3-8,agd .," ~-'.f , " , , ! .J , , , , ~~~.. c-~~ ',l, J,., , I~~~ '~i )" : Ili "I .-, '~, i! " '{ 'I I C,' ;';:, i ~, " ' ' ',', ., "0' " ""..',.... ',;" , ';"',>~,' ?'~'.,..~;,:,~':... "","'l\.~{-: .:\'"',:''-: ;.-..i".... .,~'5-:.I,D'.' "I' 'I' '-' "J':!::.':,:"'''] y o , J" " ~\~::<A: ' ,.;..:...J: ," ~ : ':~:':~~:,:\'~,::,,::':'. ," ",',: " . ~' " ....,:,,', ,'.1:'..,: , , ',I . i " , ".1 ,,'. . ,"" ':' "',' ' , . ,'. "," . ',.-. " ,,"' , ;1',. ,. , ~ . ' ',":," "", ,....,' _-'.n_~.:..-l._~"w_...""~"""''''''''__''''_'_'_.';''''__~'~,,_,,_ n .,'___.....;.,......::..:.~~___M.. ' City of Iowa City MEMORANDUM DATE: March 4, 1994 TO: City Council FROM: City Manager RE: Work Session Agendas and Meeting Schedule March 7, 1994 6:30 P.M. 6:30 P.M. 6:45 P.M. 7:30 P.M. 7:45 P.M. 8:15 P.M. 8:35 P.M. 8:50 P.M. 9:00 P.M. Monday - City Council Work Session - Council Chambers (Times approximate) - Review zoning matters - Meeting with Planning and Zoning Commission a. Street Hierarchy (Sycamore Farms) b. Secondary Access (Walnut Ridge) - Urban Planning Division Work Schedule, - Near South Side Redevelopment Plan - Community Vision/Community Planning Recommendation - Cablecasting of Work Sessions - Council agenda, Counci 1 time, Counci 1 committee reports - Consider appointments to the Animal Control Advisory Board and Housing Commission . ' ',; 'r./\ \& , , ,'. March 8, 1994 Tuesday 7:30 P.M. - Special Council Meeting - Council Chambers March 14, 1994 Monday NO CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION \ March 15, 1994 Tuesday NO REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING '.! f.'; March 28, 1994 Monday ! 6:30 P.M. City Council Work Session - Council Chambers - Agenda pending March 29, 1994 Tuesday , 7:30 P.M. . Regular Council Meeting. Council Chambers PENDING LIST I \ ~ Appointment to the Design Review Committee - March 29, 1994 Appointments to the Mayor's Youth Employment Board. April 12. 1994 , I '\ '(- 0-_ , I ._-'-- :- . , '~, )'" , ,,' """ ,\" ',' .....: , '."'0, ""',,, ,,-. :,',' '," '" " ','., , ,., .'" ,I., .J:.'..,:."\~I" , " ,:.:./,:, ,..........,'."'<..,"'_..., " " . "":, '" '''~''''''r'',:''':,: )S ,I'd" ,"":' ,-..... ',"'"