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Home My WebLink About1994-07-05 Agenda ~i!~?}"'" , 'I 1,/, ~ IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL AGENDA <, : . '.,,' r:: '. _.: I", . :::: I I I I I": . ll) REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF JULY 5,1994 7:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CIVIC CENTER 410 EAST WASHINGTON "', , "I" .. '. . 0 .' I , , ' , ' .. ,Cm.., . ~_'" ."~.d ,"'!':","-''" "':":':":;"::':/':';;'1':' ,",'<," ' '. '. ,,~,:, '. "", ,', ,".. ,', - , " ". .."...., ."...........'i..};,..;,.. ;/",;,..l:t'i!..Si'{,;::;-'cc7::."1''''f}2;, .;~~~ ,.,,' .-.. ,l -.2I:;Z".(O\'I:;-<;~!\""."''''i'''' .... '..' 'I. 5 '. ..E)',. '. :, '~~'" 'iL:""~"L'2~ ",'. ":r, ;," 'E~:~~:,L~"""":J!',:,~,;:,:",:,,/,;\,:,,~:,,:,';;::'::':.,' . ','" "'~ "/...:,, /:." (.,~.~"::~~":,l.'I,v.,,d~';'; <.,.,.-,' :",~" ..",,;:, ,}I.:' ,:.;> I' : : ~~'.-: '"I",'~', ~' " ," AGENDA IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING . JULY 5, 1994 7:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBERS ., .'." ..if, .../,.:~!;,\t\;. .' .:..:1 "'",'. ,.:,,', ,', " " ,,-,', ',' . ," ' , ",.... ;._~__...:..:.:.,~;...:,.".~^'~...~..;;....~.,~"::"I.,':':i,;..ij.;.l.:l~;..i..~~i...','..:.;.;.:<>i:...:::.:L.';,'".~,:~.'-:;'~,',. ITEM NO. 1 - CALL TO ORDER. ROLL CALL. ITEM NO.2. MAYOR'S PROCLAMATIONS .~. '1"', , , , ,~ . \', . ~. . ,,''f ",' ~~2. ~ '....:;, '.: .'~:. :~ ,~o','-,';;;"::; ~.. :.:<':<.l ;j,:,'.:,.(.,~;~,,-;;,~~... ...-::.:....~ ,_~':' " ". ~ ~ If ~ ~ ~.~ R.~ 1 j , i , ,'I .1'1 I a. Steve Thunder-McGuire/Miracle Arts Center Day - July 6, 1994. ITEM NO.3. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED OR AMENDED. a. Approval of the Official Council Actions of the regular meeting of June 7, 1994 and the special meetings of June 14, and June 21, 1994, as published, subject to correction, as recommended by the City Clerk. b. Minutes of Boards and Commissions , (11 Committee on Community Needs meeting of April 27, 1994. '", I@ (2) Board of Library Trustees meeting of May 26, 1994. (3) Riverfront and Natural Areas Commission meeting of May 1 B, 1994. ., ,((~u~ ''-.;,;',!::/li' -J" '~.-'''..." '''''-."".." "'r", '"'''''''''''1"''' ':':'.1.:....',.,""... ' '\ ' . . ( J ,..",' ,p..' .. 0" ,I" is '[J' :,; I '.,1' \,,' 1-': ,',', '" ,,,' ;), ..') " ',',','.-" ',', ,(,;, , ' .."",~"",J"",i",~,,,,, ,I' ......c-\- ~;(<i'::',".'" ..i..j,,: .. '.1 , , ': . ~';. . I. """'" ,., '. . is, '. .'~ " . ~".' .. ' ,;,' . :.'........ " , , . ; '. " ..~,u.;, ,_~~,~.:..~_'_.;..._'...........D"""'...... ;..;~I..~.' U'.::.";.k::';":'~~ ~~'.~.:.:..; .'~'...\'!.l':L.i"""~'.:r ~;"",.........,..i~......... '~'.___..,.,;.,.,.,:, ; . " , Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting July 5, 1994 Page 2 1 .1 I I , I "', I , , (21 Consider a motion approving a Class "C" Liquor License for Keith W. Dempster, dba The Mill Restaurant, 120 E, Burlington Street. (Renewal) " (3) Consider a motion approving a Class "C" Liquor License for Amer- ican Drug Stores, Inc., dba Osco Drug Store #2393, 2425 Mus. catine Avenue. (Renewal) i,' (4) Consider a motion approving a Class "C" Liquor License for American Legion Post #17, dba American Legion Post #17, 30Hl Muscatine Ave. (Renewal) " " , -: qLf - 22-1 (13) Consider a resolution issuing Cigarette Permit to Hilltop. I : ~ , ',( ~-....'- . . 0' . , ", ", '(~'.,- , ' .ur- _. - --' ".', ',," ,," . "',,,< ";"" , ~~..;~..:'.J!: j' ,'.,,'.."..,...,.....-..'."""...'''1...''....''. "~"-I"'~" ". '1" ,>, ....'...,~,',:; ;o,.,.ii ... \ii;,''''::''.,'\'. . .,...)~",.,: Y"";, .'[1",;, :'i;:, .. ,', '," "~I."'r",."",I,' "~I'"~ ,\.""" 1""11",,' .' '. ' ./,5 ,'", 'J' . ~. '. ' ," , , ' , :',' , . . ~.....' 3;'/" "':'!:;:-:'-';'~'\"'.::>: ,l,:', ","'/ .. . "."""I';~ 'II,' ';;-'~~'\"" l\."".:t:.r:'i(. .'."" 'L',,"" .-,,".', :",':\",:: - '~~i./'i ..... ,:;.-. ,; , , , , " :1 .J ('" ~, ,,::.... , I I I I \ ~ . ~ ,>r~:~.'. f).! IJ ,. f)' r.", ~co 00 , .. ,,',.' 'l' :,' ',,,'.'' "r . .'.\\1:\ '~" . , , '."':'" ~,; , '~ , . , . ':. ,.. '. . <, ' ",,\ :', '.,~.:. "~'--'~'..:.~___ :-:....::__.~~.:; ..,",.",,~<<.,,-,~:,<;j~(;")~'j'-.~;: '~;':: .:M';;.; :';':~;',.<:..':' ,,~ :,"'.'"'\;':"':;:,,,.:.~, 'l',:';"M_'I.,i.,~...4:_ ;,;'".,":';", ': Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting July 5, 1994 Page 3 I . d. Setting Public Hearings. (1) CONSIDER SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR JULY 19, 1994, TO DISCUSS THE ALLOCATION OF $17,300 IN CDBG FUNDS FROM UNPROGRAMMED FUNDS TO HILLCREST FAMILY SER. VICES FOR A SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM. " " ' Comment: Hillcrest Family Services is applying for a Supportive Housing grant through the Department of Housing and Urban Development that will provide transitional housing along with supportive services to homeless persons. They are requesting $17,300 of the $54,790 in unprogrammed funds to cover the HUD required 25 % match for operational costs of the program. /."'1 . I , . ' i \ ' e. Motions. (1) CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE DISBURSEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,437,164.90 FOR THE PERIOD OF MAY 1 THROUGH MAY 31, 1994, AS RECOMMENDED BY THE FINANCE DIRECTOR SUBJECT TO AUDIT. , . ' , . . f. Correspondence. (1) Letter from Jessica Hamm regarding magazine recycling. (2) .Letters regarding SEATS from: (a) Vivian Hahn (b) Winifred Brooks (3) Letters regarding speeding in the area of Teg Drive from: (a) Michael and Joanne Margolin (b) Kay Meacham (c) Charlotte Fallon (d) Lucy Choisser "i '] ,I (4) Letter from Duane Bickford regarding fee-per-bag trash pickup. (51 Letter from Bluffwood Neighborhood Association regarding the proposed development of property at the southeast corner of First Avenue and Hickory Trail. (61 Letters regarding parking rates from: (al Paul A. Soderdahl (bl Stanley J. White with attached page of signatures (7) Memorandum from the Traffic Engineer regarding parking prohibi- tion on the east side of Peterson Street. 4u- o.-<f.j..d] 6Y\ " " ""I, , ",'" .,' '. "0, .;,;'.;.;";:,, :l'-"-"~"~""'''''''I,.,...,,-''''',.,]m_.'!''-'''--'--l~'''' .', "1 ., i,'" '. ":./ ",,"","'" "," -,,,,',..,""',.",""''',.,,,., ",' 'n'" " ',':':"':::::'P~~;.JN"::,,,\''. '\" ...,".' ". . .' ,.'?_5';~;:.;,gf , \", .',', "~:~"F:::;,":':""~:':" .l'.\\'ml1l,' '; ,;...'. 'f' . -/'1: ". .. ,." '". , , '~ " . , ,';~t:'\;'l,.'" ,": '-', . , "~, ','" l I ,..' '. .,.. , ' ,'f .'.~'. ',' ,'.:: :~~:',~ ;.":::~~,' :..__ .":'~~~".....:..,i:;l~;:.:..':Wi~'~~~~~~" j:: '~~",~r~...';.i.-.:...:";;:'~; ~.:i::.;,~',,;:w.:,;.:~"ir~ ~ ;:.:.'';::j~ '.:'.i.':.'~',.'::.:~/.; ~:'::,j-,i:\';. ~::,\','::':,'L.,--~;' ":"l;'~:,:,-',:~i:j::. ;;", ;c~;:::~':"':';'1~ i;.,';.l~'~ ,.L.:: :.,;:~:t '..':" : ' '. :~"~ ,<I.., , City of Iowa City MEMORANDUM "';, ',i: , To: Mayor, City Council and General Public From: City Clerk ' Date: July 5, 1994 . . Re: Addition to the Consent Calendar. , ~ Item #3f(8l Letter from Gertrud Champe, Melrose Avenue Neighborhood Association, regarding traffic on Melrose Avenue and the Environmental Assessment. "" I fi) ,;.: ./.... .,~ (_.~ \ ',I i~ i ,'1 , I ~ i , , I I , ~: i I ,-,'. ~ " ~I ' ~ 'I: , "", --'-:mr --",~.~~ , '.~,' --- ' ",',...,',',':'",,' ',..":,:.",J, " . , ",' ,'. .~ /,'"h, ,-.-, ".!~.[," ~.~, 'Q~,.e,"'-"'~"''''''''',,,,,.,,,,,,'c.''''''''''''''''''l''~'''''' "" " ~ :,:.' ,-' ,><> '."",. '",..',' \;'(';"'~,~:'I:":,<I~~,.,\~",~:,,. :::,''''''''.'1.,,:,,.~\::,~.,.-:,::.'..::;,:....,:.' ,.::',(',' .~' :' Q;",S " "'",' "0,,.,,\ \.,.. '. ' ,', " ')5," ',. .:..," '''''::..:.:.E;:,., ",;'!<';"'., '., ,," , , "if .C:,..:..",/\ '".r " ' ',. ...:..- o "'1 ,,1,'.....-..,,; ,'::,'.' ..',,',...,.": ":',, (~~'f~/~:~ ' '.. ",', .. .' , '';'. .,.., . ~~' '" ., ':::.',U\P' " ,~ .... ':,.' '". ., ".',.. ". " , 0,,' ,',', '. .': ; ,. ',-,"', ,-,'.. ~ " , " I' '," " " . .. ,.. :~' ...' . ".ji' , " ;, ,. ,,' :'..) .:' , ~~. ',:,/_',~__.:;,;""~.~,,~,~'~"~,,"'';';;~l'<';;~'~_:'-;'';;':'.,,,_,.'~~':':"';.~~~.i.~':i:.:c;"'~""';';':\';:"'~::''-''<J".~~';'':,b~::_..-,.:..'..~.~'" ' Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting July 5, 1994 Page 4 g. Applications for City Plaza Use Permits. ~,,', (1) Applications from Mikhail Borgman for permission to set up a table during the periods of June 14 through 19, 1994, and June 21 through 28, 1994, for the purpose of educating the public about Russia and accepting donations for the preservation of rare books in Russia. (approved) (21 Application from the Senior Center for permission to set up a table to display a quilt and offer raffle tickets during the period of Au- gust 1 through 5, 1994. (approved) , -,. 'I' h. Applications for the Use of Streets and Public Grounds. END OF CONSENT CALENDAR t?/JwI~d.. . ~% ~ /.);. , "I . I (1) Application from Christopher Green of the Iowa City Magazine for permission to close a portion of Wright Street for a Chamber of Commerce Business P.M. on August 18, 1994. (approved) (2) Application from Carousel Motors for permission to park vehicles on the frontage road on July 4, 1994. (approved) ~/.(~~ 1 '.,1 '\'" ,i' ITEM NO.4-PUBLIC DISCUSSION (ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA). ;......':1 '~',.i >1 ("" ., \\ \~ " " ~;bA~ 'I" , . /~ I\] I . , I ~ i I , ITEM NO.5- PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS. a. PUBLIC HEARING ON AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO CHANGE THE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF PROPERTY LOCATED EAST OF HARLOCKE STREET FROM 16.24 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE TO 2-8 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. .' , . ' I i \ I ~.) , "'f , ,T .' ',Ie Comment: At its May 5, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning Commission, by a vote of 5-0-1, with Dierks abstaining, recommended approval of the amendment of the Compreh~nsive Plan land use map designation of the subject property from 16.24 dwelling units per acre to 2-8 dwelling units per acre. The Commission's recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the staff memo- randum dated September 16, 1993. . Action: (D~(p) t( - e.- ec..,tt,;1I' ".) tiJ 1/;9 t~ ~~ ..",..', . ...,t)l.I't'.t"ir.'~'!')"" ,.....""'1':"".,...."~....~..,.\i!....^,..,.'-;"-~I'...~" "''', I \',. , .".".,", '."'1""""'''''''''''.'' """"""""""""'r~f;' ,\,;;;/").(),../i:L; ,.,1;:\".";,:;',,....... .., ". ..;.?$i>.,;,i:~..:. , ,I" r " ", ' -~:,":::.:.:,\";-':'.}' ~J';"""'.i "'(,,', ".. ,r;!j" ',;'- ,": ,',; .".". ;<.:'.."~!.:..;.t;.; -'.> '. "i.' , ," ',.. '~ , , . " . I Horow/ (#4) Public Discussion. Jeannette ockenfels/ I live at Capitol House Apartments and I have still got a complaint. They are still not stopping for .me going across the street and I am getting sick of it. I wait. If there are a lot of cars I wait until they go a second time and push the button. That is the only way I can have my safety. And I am going to deliver some stuff that has got my background on it so you can know what my background is. Horow/ Thank you. Thank you very much. .! , ,-! Kubby/ Nice picture. Horow/ Jeannette, is there anything else that you wish to say. J. Ockenfels/ No, not really. I I ',"I , ,~ I " Horow / Okay, thank you. Anyone else that would like to address council, I urge you to come forward. okay. l;) .' '\ " '( c,;;~ \ " ~",:.: ( I.' I i ~ \ ! I, [I , , " ~-::J 1 ,I; :"." i~, !o~ i!!' W., "1,". ',,'" \..",. . ' ~- j'~"""""''''"''~' '..- ....,....~.~..~\".."'......~l.'".. " ' .:.,' ,.~::.(.; i i'v,:..,::::'. ,; ),:,:,; , '<,""':',-.""'::':" . "'?(:r:':~:";.':~t:~',":S'~\'.;:~'~ ,I',> ";,'!""!",;",,;,,:,,,,,-,:,;,,\:::'i :)'~.:::"';:",:,:,~':,:,:;!', : rn~:~,: ""..""",0.,.."".." ","" , .' .in', I..J, ::.. ", '-.:J . '"I.": ',.;i,:"',::'- , 'I<of'" , .,.:;:\'.'i/ :.::~r:,:~"~:,:'''::'!;'i;' ' " , "" ';' :'",,:', ' ":. ::'~'~.,. ;~:.!.',;'I.\:,:)< , ~C'.?~ ,." " ';, :'.", '. ' ,\ ,O::ll.W:{ '.... ~ /~~, " ( , ' I, I, , 1-', "jl i , ,I 'I ',I I, ! , I I ;, I i ~>; 11' lUI ~\_'.") i~ ",,:,"1.1,' ..If;. "'t !-i.1 , . .,,'~ 1:- _~.'\~J C' , \ _,0 ., 'I'j ~ , , ?t:\" . .. . , . ~ . '~., . ,,,.. ~... ,',.".. " ,'.' , "',.' " "",'. #5a-e page 1 Horow/ (#5a-e) The first five items we have, a, b, c, d, and e all have to do with the general area of Harlocke, Ridge and Weeber streets. The first two items are comprehensive plan change. I will read these. But when you address council you may address council for all five of them. In other words we will allow that. We have also- Nov/ We need a motion. I will move that we consolidate the first five p.h.s. Horow/ It has been moved by Nov, seconded by pigott to consolidate. Any discussion about this. Okay. All those in favor signify by saying aye (ayes). At the same time there is some sentiment on council to amend the zoning that has been sent forward to us from the P/Z Commission to either one or the other. All RS-5 or all RS-B. If you wish to address us on that aspect, you also may. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them because there are a lot of items here. I will read these first and then please feel free to come forward, write your name down and stay within five minutes. (Reads Agenda Items 5a-e). We will open the p.h. now. Remember you are addressing all five issues or anyone in particular. If you have any questions, feel free to address council with them. Open the p.h. William Knabe/ 1101 Weeber Circle and I am the primary spokesman for the Weeber Harlocke Neighborhood Association. I would like to begin this presentation by first of all passing out to each of the council members a statement of the position of the neighborhood association. This is a position statement that we adopted on October 7, 1993 and we still stand by it word for word. As you can see, we have a large number of people here tonight. The Weeber/Harlocke neighborhood distinguishes itself because we are a together group and you will get the flavor of that tonight I am sure. I would like to make my comments very briefly in two areas. First of all I would like to take the time if you don't mind to show you a very brief slide show to acquaint you with the area that we are talking about. I am not going to try to belabor the points but I want to just point out very quickly to you the whole area that we are confronted with and the basic issues that we are concerned with. I would like to begin by first of all addressing to you the whole idea that I think Karin Franklin made very clearly to many of you when she made the presentation at the informal session regarding the whole issue of the Weeber/Harlocke area. There are basically two issues that we are concerned with here and these are the two issues on which all of the other factors evolved. That is we are concerned with the traffic and we are concerned with the topology. The important issue that you must bear in mind and why as a neighborhood stand as a united force in this particUlar case is because we do not see this as a separate zoning issue. We would point out to you in our - ,~_._. - ],"'''> , 0 '-"_it." ..,,, ''1 ,...._'-..'.',','",.,. .",'.. ,.. . 'r,"',-' , ') 5 ',' .. ~ r'!< , , , I ~ ~~ f;~, I;, ~ I , ~ ,.....ii O. :.,.,'1 ~'. ,< "j , I , I II /?- 1\, 0 ,. "-j :'~t;\1 ' , .. ... , ',' . .,',' ~ '.."" . , . __'. -p. _~~ ::':", _ :~. ,-:, .;:_'~', .__-,h_ ".~u ....._....: '.':.:. :_..,. _ ~,..:,:.:,:...:~ c' .... ,:,;:. i ""v_ #5a-e page 2 statement of position that we argue that what you are zoning in this case is not a separate piece of land but you are zoning part of our neighborhood and that is very very important to us. So let's look at a little bit about the topology and the traffic issues that we are faced with. Anyone who has not seen this property and I know many of you have walked it. I know Naomi was over walking it the other day. This is the same tract of land that Susan Horow. and I walked together ten years ago. This is the same tract of land that we took Jim Throg. on last year. So there are many of you who have had experiences here. The greatest experience you get with the Weeber/Harlocke neighborhood is the fact that in the winter time it is almost a very desperate very difficult neighborhood to get in and out of. As you see here this is Weeber street going up Benton Street and that car that is sitting up there at the top of the hill is attempting to negotiate onto Benton street. Some of you who come from some distance and travel Benton probably are acquainted with the area. You can see the lights on the car, the tail lights are on which indicate the car is backing up. There is a very good reason for that and it is because unless that car backs up, all the way-half way down Weeber street, approximately one block, you will not get off of that street. If you don't believe it, here is the same car making the second attempt. And here is the next issue. Once you get people going up the street you get other people who think they are brave enough to follow and so you get a number of people who are starting to get off of the street at the same time and you end up with a situation which is not uncommon to any street where you have hills and you have the difficulty of getting up those. Now we are not going to say that this is the whole issue that is involved here. But it gives you an idea of the whole issue with respect to getting traffic up and down the street. One of the things we would point out to you is that this is a very well established neighborhood. We are not like the northside. We don't have old houses. We have old neighbors. Many of us have been there 25-30 years or longer. Many of us have grown up together and as a consequence we have raised our children together. And children playa very important part in this neighborhood. Even though we only have approximately 53 residents in this neighborhood, we presently at this time have 43 children in the neighborhood that are school ages children. This is a neighborhood that subscribes to the concept of the comprehensive plan that says you have a public school within two blocks, you have s.f. residents so students can walk to school. So our kids walk to school even in the snow. Again, this is a view that points out to you looking backwards up Weeber Street. You get an idea a little bit of the struggle that one has to go through in the winter time. Often times we have been forced to go to the street in walking. Now, before you believe that that is the whole concept of the neighborhood we would point out to you something like this. Now we are r d.l . . .,'-,\~," ':.. ;',',-', - 'j'~: ...." ..:,'.'" ,I..::,,..: - ,". .'\' " , o ~. . .. .-....". ~. (! I I ': ~'l!'1"":":-'::' 0 I. 5 .,"'1, , ;. " , ~::.i .f [~.\ \ ,,.,,-.1 ,...::.~ : r \ I" I I I , I : i I I ~, I I'~ I, , I Ii '~\.,.;. ,'\...... , ,,/' '~:~~~ ,~\ f.l;11 :if' .Cl C""o ;'j ... . . ~r \\'t, , , , ,~' ~ ", ~. .!:..:. . . ;..' ...~ #5a-e page 3 going to be fair and honest and say to you that this is the view of our neighborhood during our annual garage sale. We have this every year and this last year was our tenth annual garage sale. But this will give you an idea about the problem we are faced with. The street you see right immediately in front of you is Weeber street looking south and this picture was taken before Weeber was extended all the way down to Eddingale. But you can see up at the end where it is going down towards Eddingale. The street on the left hand side that you see just beyond the bushes is Harlocke. You will notice that Harlocke is a street that just comes directly on. There is no stop sign or anything. It is just a normal residential street. What you would observe here if you could actually get out your measurement and see is this-Weeber street is exactly 24 feet wide. It is 25 by the standards if you call the curb. Harlocke street is 24 or 25 feet wide. We do allow parking on one side of our streets. But as you see it gets to be pretty crowded. This is one of the great concerns we have because if you are to send traffic from this development through Weeber and Harlocke you are going to have to extend the streets or widen the streets to 30 feet. This is another view of that corner and this is a very dangerous corner from the standpoint of the fact that you can see traffic comes up and down Weeber street and that is Harlocke on the left hand side and very often times it is a real major issue as to which car is going to get across the intersection first. Now this is Harlocke street on the end of Harlocke street and this is the piece of property that you have identified as the Jensen Tract. The piece of property to your left, that is the Jensen Tract, and you will notice several things about this picture already. First of all the flat part of that tract of ground, as you can see, is right next to the street. You will also see that there are some wooded heavy wooded area. Now if you want to get some relationship of this to Mr. Ruppert's property, it you will look at the dead end of Harlocke street-the area there, that is where Mr. Ruppert's property starts and it goes south until it hits Highway 1. This is another view of that piece of property and you will notice that there are apartment houses on this complex. This is a very important thing because one of the things that we have is a mixture on this Harlocke area or Harlocke street of a RS-5 house and several apartment houses. You might say how in the world could that happen. Well, some developer decided that they were going to build apartment houses and that is what they built. That is exactly how it happened. And then this is another view of that flat piece of property so you can get a pretty good feel if you are-some of you, I know, have asked about the idea about where the ravine is. The ravine is on the right hand side where the heavy treed area. We will show you another picture of the ravine. We were somewhat amused to see some of you belabor over many of the questions that we have labored over for ten years. One of the questions you labored over is . 0 . ' ',.]'"'' __~~_____.__ _ I ,- " .- ,. . 1 . ,tS ~, 1. ~ ~ ~., t r ~i!' ~ ,.' : .j 10. ."-' ' , ' M"i:;Il :\ " , "t' "11' '.': ... . ~, ~ '.. . .' . ..,:,....., - . ~~_. --....." ". ...,. .. ,'" .., -'~." . ,- #5a-e page 4 I .1 (- why can't you just access this property from Benton Drive which is a private Drive. One of the reasons you can't is because Benton Drive is owned by five different people to my knowledge and they have not agreed to allow access. All five of them have not agreed to provide such access. Also, you will find that Benton Manor Drive, which is the street here, does not have standard curb cuts or is not the standard width of any kind of road. In fact, often times you cannot tell the difference between a parking lot and Benton Drive itself. If you don't believe me you just take a drive down it and you will get an idea. This is the one RS-5 house that sits on Harlocke street among the eight plexes or apartment houses. And this is the one that I think will be discussed a little bit later on by one of our neighbors because of the fact that the whole idea was this piece of property would be RS-5 to begin with. This is Mr. Ruppert's. property looking out one of our neighbors property. This gives you the idea a little bit about the density of the property and then here is a pic -this is a view of Mr. Ruppert's property looking east toward the ravine for the west side and then another view looking down toward Highway 1. The purpose of these two slides is to show you something about the steepness of the slope. We are talking about anywhere from 720 to 750 feet above sea level. So we are talking about some pretty high ground. This gives you the idea of the ravine. Here is the ravine. This is the very beautiful ravine and it has some natural waters in it. Some streams that are found in it. We even found, as we looked at the stream area that kind of feeds in the area. We also found some pollution. Some old car wax, some gasoline and some things like that we thought needed to be called to your attention. Now, we will very quickly convert to the idea that in addition not only do we fight snow, we fight water. This is Weeber Street looking down south Weeber Street. This is a typical flood day. Thank God, we don't have too many of those. But we would share with you the idea that we have a lot of fun with it. And we make a big deal out of it. And that is some of our neighbors to show you we really care. Now, I am going to make my comments very brief to you but I do have some comments that I want to point out to you. I appreciate very much the privilege for giving us the opportunity to present to you tonight. All I want to really do is to make a couple of real quick comments about issues that had been brought up in the informal sessions. Since I know you are already pretty familiar with the area that we are concerned with. One of the things that we are concerned with as a neighborhood is that we have heard you in two informal sessions make a lot of discussion about the zoning and we are a little concerned about the fact that we don't hear a whole lot of understanding about the real issue which we are faced with and which we are confronted with and that is traffic. There is absolutely on question that we have a problem here. This has been a problem for ten plus years and it has not gone \ ~ I I I , I . I I , I I i I \ "( ~\ '" J ~~' 'r ~;~ f~- . 'l... O_~_ It"", --' =~'~. -, .0".), 'i":',..;" '",;' .',.," ... . !' A \:;I r!: !, \ ,. , ! .j '1 . ')~ ... ~ \ 1[1; ~~;] .' ,'I "' , ':r:,\i.~ , -,~, ,,', ~ '. ... . . :.l,~_._ f . #5a-e page 5 ~ away and it will not go away magically unless we address it. So I want to look at five issues, very quickly, that you brought up in your informal session and also make a couple of comments about these. The first issue was some of you said the question or asked the question why are RS-5 in the north and RS-8 in the south. This does not make sense. We agree with you. It doesn't make sense. Now, in fact, we said that it should be all RS-5. And even the P/Z staff itself, if you go back to their formal minute meeting will tell you that they recommended RS-5. The staff recommended RS-5 and what you don't see in your recording of minutes is that a motion to make all of it RS-5 failed by a 3-3-1 vote. So that tells you that this is a real critical issue. One of the things we think you do understand very clearly is the fact that this piece of property needs to be downzoned. And we think that is a very good point. That is a real plus that you understand that. But we would point out to you that whoever developed the compo plan foresaw that many years ago because if you look at the compo plan this section, the west side and the east side of Harlocke and a strip equivalent to a street width all the way down to Highway 1, was recommended that it be 2-8 units per acre. So if you look at the compo map, that is the recommendation that was already made. We pointed that out to the P/Z Commission. At first they didn't agree with that but they finally saw the same thing we did and we kind of thought our eyes were going bad on us. But we kept looking at that map and pointing to it. So I would urge you to look at the P/Z compo map and you will see what we are talking about. I would also point out to you that if you ask the question why RS-5 to the north and RS-8 to the south I would give you a reasonable answer. You may not like it but the reason why it went that way is because I think the P/Z commission sincerely wanted to address the problem and so far I think you maybe missing the problem. The problem is this. We cannot afford to allow Harlocke to be a primary or even a secondary access to any zoning higher than RS-5. We do not have the ability to support that in the neighborhood without it being extremely disruptive to the neighborhood. And that is the whole issue that we are faced with. The second issue that sometimes was brought up was why not use Highway 1 as an access point. This has caused considerable debate about this issue because we have the famous debate on how many access points do you have to Highway 1. Again, I would like to point out to you in confirmation of the P/Z staff's findings that we agree with them. We have talked with DOT now for five times. There are getting tired of seeing us I think. And we have talked to them five times and they have told us fives times on five different occasions that there are two access points from Highway 1. There is one access point that would be the north part of Ruppert's Road or Ruppert's Road Extended. That is by Solanski's carpet and in case you are having trouble locating that-that is directly in the commercial area that presently I iG M ~1 , :t" , , : .! i~ ! I I r ;1 , I ... .'C__~ . ....._~ l8"'~ - " tlLl__ --~ -. --'u .~ ')..... ',\, , " I " 0 0 'J S , '" .',. - , ' '-', ..\ ~W"ti:1l " '-'7\ I I \ i. . I I I I I !! I . I I ! I ' I k I ,I I ".l_) \ ...... " r ~.,,_., .' .~~tr..' L1~ LA i"i' ...... ,':' " ", -;' ~.':. :J.~ '.~... #5a-e page 6 exists on the northside of Highway 1. The other access point, in case you are not familiar with it, is directly across from Walmart. They have got a big traffic light and that is the access point and it gives access to Tim Russell and his property. There are two farm cut-a-ways that are provided for Mr. Ruppert so he can farm his property. But those cut-a-ways according to DOT are not approved access points. Now, if you are thinking about Highway 1 access, let's talk about a couple of the problems very quickly that you will need to address. Number one is if you look at Highway 1 access to this piece of property it must go through commercial unless you negotiate an agreement with Mr. Russell. Mr. Russell and Mr. Ruppert have discussed agreements. Audience/ (Can't hear). Horow/ The limit is five and the prerogative of the mayor, since he is the primary speaker for the whole neighborhood to let him have that time. Knabe/ At any rate, what we are proposing to you is to consider the fact that if you go through a commercial zone you have to deal with whether or not you want to access residential property through a commercial zone and that is an issue that has been brought up before the city on separate occasions and I think it is an issue that according to the information that I have been given indicates that you don't really like to have that happen. That you prefer to have an access to the residential property directly. The third issue that has come up is why not extend commercial development. One of the things that I would point out to you about this is that many years years ago when we addressed this issue we discussed the possibility that the north side of highway 1 would be residential from Miller street to Sunset ori ve. And even though there is some commercial development in there that was in there before that time, it is consistently been held-to my knowledge the view has been held that this should be developed as residential property. Horow/ The commercial aspect is not on the agenda for this evening though. Knabe/ Okay, well, that is fine. I will not address that aspect then. The next issue that was brought up has to do with the taking of land issue. I am not going to get into the legal statement with regards to that. I am sure you are already clear about it but there were arguments that were advanced by Mr. Jansen that cannot go unanswered. One argument that he advanced is that to zone this property RSL it would not sale. I say ask the Realtors. We have been asking the Realtors and I would quote for you one Jane McCune says, "what people desire most is as. f. home they can afford." If you think the :("'" 0 r- \ , . ~. .0 .... ''"'\\;,'' .,......... iiI... . ..-; ,", -~ '. ~. t'~ '" ], l' ~ , ! .! '..\' ,S 10: -".,,\.,,') '" . A' ~fiii:~:, r .,~ (~' \ ,\ , \, , ,~ I~~~~ f' " .1 I I ; ! i , i , ! I~'; ~,' 9ft ~'~' ~(t~,;~,' I". '~~"', I .-'" c.,.,." , 0 .'- " "----~- " " , ." ' " '. \.\!" ~ ~ , .. , .;,,' ., , '.'r" . " -,' : ,,';".~ I" #5a-e page 7 property would not develop I would also point to you Apple Ridge. Mr. Jansen has said that no wants to buy a s.f. home on Harlocke which would have beside it on all three sides by apartment houses. I would point out to you that our good neighbors on Apple Ridge, many of them are here tonight who are part of our neighborhood now, they are not surrounding by apartment houses but they have on the east side carousel, south side Walmart and west side Mennards. So I think-and they bought their property and they are quite happy with it. The last issue that I would want to bring up to you with respect with what was brought up before as the notion and idea that came up tonight before council in informal and that was the idea why don't they get together and pool all of their resources as developers and develop this piece of property. I would point out to you that we did make the proposal as part of our statement of proposition that the entire Benton hill, West Benton Hill, should be developed at one time. We still stand by that. I would also point out to you that Tom Scott made numerous efforts to get the developers to come up with a plan and to get together. That extended for almost a full year. The neighborhood stood by and waited for it. I would also say to you that this issue confronts or is involved with neighbors. But in the ten plus years that we have been involved in this issue we have not one single time been approached by a developer or by a owner. lve have been on occasion been asked by P/Z to provide plans or proposals and we have done that. Some of the plans and proposals were efforts to draw roads just like some of you are doing and we found that we weren't much better at doing this than anyone else. I would tell you though there is a viable solution and these are the things that I want to conclude on. I would point out to you that the neighborhood knows the property is going to be developed and we are in favor of that. We are concerned about this traffic issue. We are concerned about the destroying of the topology of the ground. I, myself, personally have four acres of ground that adjoins Mr. Ruppert's property and I would be terribly concerned about the erosion. The area that we are talking about has already been on your environmentally sensitive inventory sheet. It was one of the sensitive areas because of the erosion and the steep slopes. And if they start taking ground or dirt off of that hill you are going to have a major problem. In addition I would point out to you the fact that there are viable solutions but no one seems to want to ask the neighborhood. So I am going to make an assumption that you want to know what the neighborhood can do. Here it is. We have a solution for you to consider and we got it from the compo plan. If you again go and look at the compo plan you will notice that they zoned a strip of property on the east side, the west side of Harlocke, all the way down to Highway 1 as 2-8 designated units per acre. Now, what we would propose you do is this. Our problem is traffic. If you would extend Harlocke a little 1'" 1,',"'" , ..~'; .' ~,:~,'-:' ,,0,,' ~. . ,-': """;:1"'::,, ' :! ~ \, , . I' ',' ~. ~ ~ ~ ~\ ; I~ ~' , J , .1 ~.tj, ,',.', I . ' " " ',. .'~t; \'" , .. , , .\T'~ ... . ~ ., . , "." _~h"...... _.....~ ..'. a;'.. C. ,'._'. .... #5a-e page B further down into a cuI de sac and then declare that strip of land, that corridor, that is only the street width wide on the left and on the right as RS-5. That meaning that you would give no other access for any other parts of the property to Harlocke. But the houses that would be built on the east side of Harlocke and on the south side of Harlocke street would be RS-5. The rest of the property you can do pretty much what you want to do with it because you have solved our problem with it. Our problem is we preserved our neighborhood. Now what '>Ie really would like to see you do with the rest of the property, that is a mixed reaction. First we would like to have a park just like any neighborhood. And that is a beautiful area and would make a beautiful park. But even at that we would also like to see you show some wisdom. If you are going to extend commercial property that it doesn't abut commercial next to RS-5 but that you do make the other piece of property something like RS-B. Now the key to this whole thing is that you recognize we are saying you give access only to that corridor or strip to Harlocke. The rest of these or access would have to come through Highway 1. And that is our proposal. Horow/ Thank you, Bill. I am assuming that you are talking all the time from all of the neighborhood. Throg/ So, would it be possible to ask some questions. Horow/ Could we get the rest of the people who want to-and then ask questions. ."...., " ( : .,\ [-", , \\ m , I" I I , I , , ! ! " I I ~, ! I 'j, U./ ....;, ~, , r Jeff Gauthier/ 110B Weeber Circle with my wife and two children. with all due respect, with ten years of history it is kind of difficult sometimes to condense it into- Horow/ Now, are you- Gauthier/ Briefly. Horow/ Right, because he just took most of your and practically if not all of your time. Gauthier/ I understand. I am here representing the interests that we have as a member of the neighborhood and whose home abuts the property that has been referenced. My position here is a matter founded on two fundamental principles. One is the safety issue that has been addressed and one is the preservation of our neighborhood. The unbridled development of the above referenced property, known as REZ93-0007, is a cause for concern because we believe due to the likelihood that traffic will be routed through our neighborhood via Harlocke. Multiple family development of the property we believe will create a level of traffic activity that is not 1'-;= 0 4-' r, ..,', ____ .,.~ mi i I, ,1- .. ,(- .. - 0.,]<..,. P' . - I' " ./5 .' , I ~ ~~ ~1 I.! ", I a'. '., ;. ';m1;jmJ " .,.-..... ,( ~..\ I I \1 \ ,-}-, 'I' \, I , I, . I I II II, I, : I I I i I I I I,. I i I'; I i i I II) ;,.,,'" , , "1 ;:t;I'~~' ~'. '1 ~ , ~(i'tt1';;. ' f}~j L'A_) I ,to " I "' . '. ~t ~'\!' '., , l~' , ~..,. :, . "...,,(.~. .,,_:j."'-' . #5a-e page 9 compatible with the safety that our children currently enjoy. Further encroachment of multiple dwelling units, as now exist on Benton street, will only exacerbate an already marginal traffic situation on Benton and the adjacent streets. To digress from my notes I just learned a few minutes ago of a rather suspicious development with Forestgate Apartments where there has been expansion that did not go through the P/Z Commission but is some sort of easement has been negotiated through the existing Forestgate. And I am very concerned about that as it involves some of the property owners that we are addressing tonight. And it does raise the issue of credibili ty. My second fundamental concern is founded in the belief development of the property at a higher density of zoning will not result in a a situation that favors the long term investment in our home and the neighborhood including our neighborhood school, the Roosevelt Elementary. Fueling further encroachment of multiple dwelling development will not, we believe, enhance the value of our property nor generate the support and participation in the preservation of our neighborhood. Additionally, it is our belief that our neighborhood school will not enjoy the level of vitality, support and participation that it requires and could expect from the RS-5 designation. As we have and it was noted earlier never been contacted by the developer not shown any proforma plans our concerns admittedly are speculative. However, we do not believe our concerns are unrealistic nor unreasonable given the prevailing circumstances. consequently I we believe that the most prudent course of action would be to acknowledge these concerns and those of our neighbors and place the burden of proof on any developer who may wish to step forward and make a thoughtful and legitimate proposal. To insure that our neighborhood's interests and concerns are comprehensively addressed the RS-5 designation should be maintained as an incentive for the developer to address these matters in a collaborative and sensitive fashion with the neighborhood association. And I thank you for allowing me to make comments. I do have a copy- Horow/ Thank you. Is there anyone else who would like to address council. Is there someone not from the neighborhood that would like to address council. Mr. Jansen, certainly. Robert Jansen/ Thank you. I am Robert Jansen, I am the attorney for the owners of what has come to be known as the Jensen Tract, four acres that border Harlocke on each side. Several comments were made. I don't intend to answer or engage in a debate with the spokesman. However, a comment was just made alluding to a question of credibility. I have no idea what the gentleman is talking about with regard to some easement. Nor do my clients know anything about some easement. We have no knowledge of this. Which leads me tell you there has been a tremendous amount of speculation up here tonight, well . - -':-~ '~ ......' 0,)'< .~!:' ! ..' . - 'I ,,' " IS r 'if I ~ I I ~~ !1 rr."" f '. '8 ' 00 " ~' , " ^ ,"i " " ': ~t ~ I't: , '. . ",... ... . "..' \;.,1 ~ "W"f . ;.' . ...,-............... ..._.~,.,_~..~._,-., ,,,,-,,,,,d :.,.:, '. ,.. . ~.;,... _.c;.;.... o':'.f ~:~: ..',. ,-.;'':: . ~~;~ ' _^.~ " ! #5a-e page 10 presented, but there has not been a development proposal for our property since 1983. Nor is there one pending now or in the near future that we are aware of. We are simply here seeking to preserve what we have. You have been asked to take a very drastic downzoning from the second highest residential density to the lowest. I am not sure what the impetus is behind the rezoning at this time. I have not been able to figure out where that came from. Perhaps there is some need that we don't know about. That there is some unfinished infill zoning in Iowa city that needs to be tidied up or what it is. But you don't have to deal with this issue. If I understood your comments at the beginning, Madam Mayor, there is a motion pending with the council to consider alternatively. 'I Horow/ There is a sentiment among council members to have the whole area zoned one or the other. Jansen/ Has this been put in a form of a motion. Horow/ Not yet, sir. Jansen/ Olcay, I assume that would be done under the ordinance, the city initiated rezoning. ......_.~~.. " ' Gentry/ Hopefully, it will be done during the p.h. at some point. Either tonight or tomorrow-the next p.h. Jansen/ I am simply asking the question because we have from the very beginning when this issue was brought up again last fall made it clear to P/Z that we are quite willing to compromise. We recognize RM-44 is not appropriate. We are willing to accept the RS-8 rezoning classification. And I would urge you in the spirit of compromise we are engaging in to consider this. I haven't heard much compromise otherwise tonight but there are some rights and I am not going to belabor you. I am not going to give you a lecture on the law of taking like Mr. Knabe did. The point is don't force this issue into court because you don't need to. There is substantial liability risks here for all sides. I think the city has major issues before it that needs resolving. Do not get into this one if you don't have to. And you don't have to. We are not going to come into next week with a development plan. Not at all. We would like to preserve some value to this property which will be destroyed if you go to RS-5. So, again, I restate what we have stated several times to P/Z and I will state it to you as a council. If you are going to consider either RS-8 or RS-5 as alternatives in your decision, we would urge you and emphasize that we are quite happy to accept RS-8. And we can end the problem right now. Thank you. Dwight Drury/ 1117 Harlocke street. My family and I have resided here at this address for nine years. They have been pretty }" .. (-', \l ,~ ~r j !', ,11, /' I' .. (~. .... . : 0 .I "'. ---..---..------. -~._- )",'".'....,'"'' , '",oL, .':. ':,.:..' . ,/)-;i.- ,.,' '\'.'.;" I,ml . -~:- 0.' .~ ' ,.. . ':T"'::"':-':', '?5' " i " ~ i ~ ....."..'i. 0.... " ...,'.",.:. ~ ,-., " ,\ " .r-: \, ' 1 '\"J'" c-' , \ , ~ !~ ", I I : I , I I. i ~: II' \ i ; ~,'), .W(~ . {(~_!!..~ .... I . .'\l~\'t. '. '~ .. ,;,,' " ... . ',' , ..... " . . "."..' ..,-':_~._'., -.., ".:.'. ,. ','.. .,'. .." .....' ; .::. .....__,J.'.........'. #5a-e page 11 good years and we have been in on this considerations and concerns since we have moved there. I appreciate the gentleman who spoke previous to me but I think the traffic considerations cannot be forgotten. Safety considerations cannot be forgotten in lieu of dollars and cents. Neighborhoods cannot be forgotten. The topography of that area is very steep and very rugged. At the bottom of that ravine, near the Jensen property, is almost a natural wetland. I think the best consideration would be to cuI de sac Harlocke. Then continue on with your development. We know it is going to be developed. We want it to be developed. We want it to be developed humanely, sensibly, rationally, with consideration to neighbors and family and children. You hear the children tonight. That is our neighborhood. We protected our children through the years that I have been there. And those apartment houses that went in. Practically overnight we get new people moving into those on every semester. We have to train these individuals how to drive in and out of our neighborhood. We have taken the point at sometimes in CHANGE TAPE TO REEL 94-86 SIDE 2 There is children playing here. Sometimes we resort to yelling. Sometimes calling the police. But after the training period ends we may have some point of peace and then it begins again. We ask you not to make the situation worse. Thank you for your time. Ferdinand Ukah/ Good evening. I am going to be brief. Yes, I am one of the new residents-that moved to the new development on Weeber Avenue. Yes, that property is overlooking the Mennards and the Walmart and the new grocery store that is coming out there. And, yes, I was aware of this before moving in there. Because of the neighborhood being there, being stable there for many years with lots of children and I do have three children of my own. I moved there because it is so close to the University Hospital and I could go over there pretty soon in an emergency situation. I think the nature of the new development that is further much in the hill with the winding road that comes there, I think it would be very dangerous to have more traffic that is already tracking through the neighborhood to increase the traffic. The road is indeed winding and sloping so that sometimes you are not able to see above the-within a quarter of mile in front of you and please urge the council again to look at the human side of it and put this in consideration when you make a decision. Thank you very much. Horow/ Thank you. Charlie Ruppert/ I think they are all making a mountain out of a mole hill in the first place. Harlocke Street is closed off /8- )""",....,"',.,'" __ ","1-.<., '.' ''''!. ......., .:,',"'.. , ~-,.. .....:',.,. ~'. <.';:.,-:'-, ~ ~", - -~ ," ",0 " r' , " .... . , "," i , " }" ..' ""j S-.,rtJ l .' ,". '_~ . .;mt"J r~ . : " "< ""'i .....~i " ( i ,'.;;''\ \) 1 ~ i ! I I i I Ib II" tJ,) ~-' ~.~~,'I,."~"I,: '~i \I! " ~Ul~' " :~!' i -..-" '(- 0 " , .' \;, i ,~ . " . ... . '~' , , ,',.' ~ .-.....0:- " . '. ,",: ..:',.;.___.','_:.... L,;,:";,,..:>o:.::'!"...:.J.~..(..;~:': ..'....,;-.. ..... ::',..... :_:c.~', ,.;,'.. , ' #5a-e page 12 on account of vandalism and so forth. Whether you know that or not I don't know. cuI de sac-they voted one time to cuI de sac Harlocke. Seemed like a reasonable idea. It will suit me. We never intended to use Harlocke to get out there. Never did. Not once. One developer did and the other one come along and he followed the same tracks. Where the trouble came in. But I, myself, have never figured on it. I think there is going to be something developed there that will be better than there is on either side on Miller Avenue or where you folks live. I know you have problems. The swimming in the creek or in the low spot there. That is no water of mine or anything. I don't have anything to do with that. That don't relate to the thing at all. To the manager and the city council. Many years of hard work and studies of planning including a special southwest study were completed before this area was zoned high density multi family RM-44. We never intended to put 44 in there but it takes a hell a lot of options away when you dump down to B or 5. And you all know that. The boundary line runs on the west side from Highway 1 to Benton Street. It widens out across Benton and then comes back down along the east boundary line of the RM-44, straight south dOlm to Highway 1. The elevation is a little steeper than they had it. It is up as far as BO feet there but that is to advantage if the right thing goes in there. This proposal would put RS- B up against commercial. It would be next to the RM-20 and to RM-44. Well, they don't usually do this. They had a whole different proposal back in 'B3 than they have this year. Entirely different. There are currently only three s. f. homes in the larger area from Miller Avenue to Harlocke which is closed. There is one in the little area there but there is predominantly other housing. In this portion of the Ruppert property- if this portion of the Ruppert property is zoned RS- B, important development options would be lost. Since the two Highway 1 accesses currently and they aren't only for farm use as you are thinking there. I looked at this thing from another view. We have got very small narrow portion to build your RS-5 on. Like to show you some here. I don't have enough maps for everyone. (Distributes maps) . Horow/ That is all right Charlie, we can share. Make Marian Karr- Charlie, why don't I pass these out. got two more minutes. sure that You have Ruppert! I couldn't talk at all the other night, could I. What was the reason for that. Horow! It was at a different type of meeting. It wasn't a formal meeting. Kubby! You are using your time Charlie. Horow! We have three pieces-four pieces of correspondence'to enter ~~ ....,.,.., .,.. ,- ", :..l..~",' ...'.,' '".l,. ','" . ',: .,., 0 ,......,', i PO' . ''',''-'-: ", ...,....-.-...-. . . .:;c': ~ " , .'. I I i I ~,'. ,I.f "I'" , ' 1.'5 ,:1[1 " ',."..."..... ,< .~~~~1 I . ,....-.... , , I , .,\ (-''\ \J Ii , I I, 'I~l \ I i I ' . ii" ,! 1 ::(~ 0 ; '~ ... . '. '..~~: ,', , " " , " .~. , ... . ___d" "'U'.. ""."". ;.-.',.........,-" . #5a-e page 13 into the record. Would someone like to make a motion. Karr/ Madam Mayor, we haven't accepted anything so far. Do you want to do it in one blanket motion at the end of the p.h. Horow/ Motion by Kubby, seconded by Pigott. All those in favor signify by saying aye (ayes). Nov/ Marian wants to wait until the end of the p.h. because we will have some more. Horow/ Okay, Charlie. Ruppert/ Got a minute yet, huh? Thank you. I used part of that up, I guess. Dear Council members. You are regularly faced with a difficult decision affecting the lives of the community and its residents. The residents who place there trust and honesty and integrity and in the honesty and integrity of the governmental process. You may to be aware but it is a matter of public record that the last P/Z hearing the Commission refused to hear me. As the result of that action, so on and so forth-well, by the time I sign in I guess my time will probably be up. Throg/ I would like to urge us to give Mr. Ruppert a few more minutes if he would like that. Horow/ Charlie, would you like a few more minutes. Ruppert/ Nope. Horow/ Okay. Ruppert/ That is enough. I could tell you an awful lot about this. I could talk here until tomorrow morning and you wouldn't like that. I have been involved with this for-we have owned the place for 69 years and we have always have trouble down there building buildings over sewer lines and everything that comes up you get all confused down there with. Horow/ Thank you. Anyone else who would like to address council. victor Mashburn/ Very briefly. My wife and I live at 1100 Weeber Circle and the mole hill being made into a mountain that Mr. Ruppert rederred to is right over my back fence. I would implore you to rezone this entire area RS-5, protect our neighborhood and our children. We are certainly willing to work with developers and I think that is clearly reflected in the Apple Ridge development. So I just urge you to rezone this RS-5. Thank you. I also have two letters. First of all I wrote each of you a letter that I hope that you received by now. I was telephoned today and told that needed to be a 1""'l1IliL _m_., ,0,);' """,.,", ...-....,;..-;' ~. . ~JI. I ~ '" l.~ ' !. 25: 1'0, ,'.,.1', ,,'1 . ' ~'m!it'J, i: r ,\ \,-- \ ,\ , /'l t'-'r I' I' , , , i ! ~' : I \~, "~ I\{~" f\lt1t 1':0 c~, 'f(--'- 0 , " I -' . , , "t' . \~i_~ , ~ '. . .'{ .. "._0.-. '-_.", ,_ . '" ,', . #5a-e page 14 notarized letter. If that is the case I have one notarized. If that is not the case I won't do that. Gentry/ Yes, it is required to be notarized. Horow/ A protest letter, oh, okay. Mashburn/ If that is the case, I have a copy that we kept just for our own personal records. It is addressed to Mr. Lehman but the content is similar to what each of you received and I would like to present a notarized copy of that letter and then a letter also from Mr. Knabe. Gentry/ We have a protest form. Pigott/ Do they need to fill out a protest form or is that sufficient. Gentry/ If you keep the hearing open then they would have a chance to correct it next time. Kubby/ We are planning on continuing the hearing so we could make sure he got the form. It couldn't hurt to make sure. Gentry/ The protest form is in the City Clerk's Office and also Planning and you can get it in our office as well. Horow/ Is there anyone else who wishes to address council about this. Mr. Scott. Tom scott/I am appearing before the council as chairperson of the Iowa city P/Z commission. I think you have heard certainly the history of this particular tract. Both from Bill Knabe and Charlie Ruppert and from other neighbors. I guess I look up here and see Susan at least was on. I don't remember Larry if you on for the ten year ago rezoning efforts that the commission went through and I think from memory the recommendation was to cul de sac Harlocke and to rezone the properties, some of them RS-20, some RM-12. And I will tell you that that particular proposal died at the council level and we are still faced with the same questions that we were faced with back then. The Commission struggled with that item extensively then and we certainly struggled probably longer wi th that item most recently. All of the concerns over traffic on Harlocke and Weeber should be solved at the subdivision design level and not at the rezoning level. The issues of safety, the issues of substandard streets, the issues of traffic and the issues of secondary access are issues that will be addressed and resolved before any subdivision proposal receives a positive recommendation from the P/Z commission and sent to this body. I would like to clarify one item that was mentioned tonight and that is .m.. - JJ o ):,".' .~- ....". ~. . , r I' I " o t~ r i I: js I let ,< ,l'~::;:a,;Ji. '. i ".--.. I, . I I. I i I I i i 'I I : I I I . I I ' I : ~, I I " II' ; i I i ~\,"/ 1 ' :~~"j~" ioI. .. ','; ~, ~lr"~~", . ' :/<1-'1 , --.....,;. ,(-'- 0 , \"i '~r"I" , ""f ... "',. . ~, ,., ~ '"~ ~' . . ,',;." --'. '-'..' ,.. , ..~. ,'-,.;..,....--.."--~..:,_.....,, . .. . ,,',,', ..:: ,-~: .--"-. . .; #5a-e 1 J , page 15 according to Mike Jackson at the IDOT Maintenance Office in the city of Iowa city has indicated both to me personally and to staff that the two access points to the Ruppert Tract are located, one of them west of the Sobaski Carpet store immediately west of Hudson and the other is approximately across from the secondary access to the Walmart-Cub Foods store or the east entrance to that tract or the Carousel entrance in that particular vicinity. Finally, I would like to address two issues concerning the Commission's vote and recommendations. I will tell you that if the Jensen Tract is to be rezoned RS-B by the council that at the last P/Z Commission meeting in formal poll only, I asked if that particular proposal was under consideration by council if the members of the Commission felt that consultation was required. Three of the four who voted for the RS-5 on the Jensen Tract, with one member absent. In other words the three being Dick Gibson, Ann Bovbjerg, and George starr with Pete Cooper absent, indicated that consultation with council would not be necessary if the Jensen Tract were zoned RS-B. The reasons for that being is the long term public record with the P/Z Commission on this particular issue as well as the subsequent vote on the sense of the Commission in which they said they would be open to RS-B zoning on this tract if traffic issues could be resolved. But I will tell you that if the council is so inclined to zone the Ruppert Tract to RS-5 the Commission would insist upon the consultation agreement being adhered to and a joint meeting scheduled between the council and the Commission to discuss this item. Finally I would tell you that to delay the rezoning on the Ruppert and Jensen Tracts until we do an OPDH overlay zone would certainly be unfair to the neighbors and I would likewise tell you that it would be grossly unfair to the P/Z Commission. This item has been dealt with, struggled with and recommended twice to the council level and for this council as well as previous councils not to act on our recommendation in my estimation is grossly unfair. Furthermore the present zoning remains intact and that is the Jensen and Ruppert Tracts remain or retain their RM-44 zoning until either the parcels are rezoned or until the OPDH Overlay zone is imposed. As I indicated in the minutes of the commission meeting that I strongly supported the compo plan change to bring this area to a 2-B dwelling density and the need to do that. I would only say that for you all to now shirk that responsibility and not address the zoning issues and resolve them would disappoint me. And finally I would say if in fact consultation is required that the Commission would meet your schedule as opposed to possibly the issue revolving the Northeast Iowa city Area that we discussed earlier this evening. ~ ! '! Horow/ Thank you, Mr. Scott. Nov/ When you are talking about rezoning and not requiring .V,__ RA_ _ oj" . ""'.?s::lo, .-.J,'," , . .', ~:~', .'d ." . ,.; M.iEl ~ , I ; I : I I . i ! I i r~ ~:i :,J,y'., r , ,.'.: ~!~:' ;:j',; t'1' '~~# Ii,t,~", ' ~.~ ~~~" I ,...... ,t~o ., "'\ ;', . ':t ~ ' , , ,.\!,.. , , ..... ... . .,'.:i , '" " P"-~~~" "-"":':;-'''','1 " ..... :..',.:(-,:,-, #5a-e page 16 consultation, do you include the west side of Harlocke street. Scotti Yes, yes. The other comment that I would make is the OPDH zone has been something that the Commission has consistently at least in the name of the chair supported for at least 7, 8, or 9 years. I don't want to see this item unresolved for another ten years as it has been in the last ten years and by delaying it until a OPDH overlay-imposed overlay zone occurs again I don't think is fair. I think that if in fact the areas were zoned RS-8 that at a later date or a later point if in fact we do come up with an OPDH Overlay zone that we could look at those areas for that at that time. Kubby/ Why wouldn't the recommendation from P/Z-or what is different from now and ten years ago in terms of recommending something different than cuI de saccing Harlocke and having RM-20 on the Ruppert Tract. Scotti The biggest problem I think or the biggest reason for the difference in the recommendation deals with I think a realization of the topographical constraints that both parcels have and the difficulty in developing those at that high of a density and the problems you encounter because of the steep slopes, especially on the Ruppert Tract. And I think also it was a reaction or is a reaction to the public input over the years in an attempt to reach a compromise that I think the Commission feels is fair to all parties involved. Thank you. Horow/ Thanks, Tom. Anyone else wish to address this subject. Kubby/ I have a question for staff and that is how logistically does the city council go about saying that we want a street cuI de sacced. I mean we don't own the property. Karin Franklin/ You could. You could acquire it and complete that cuI de sac. Otherwise what you do is you send out a signal that this is going to be cul de sacced if any development plans are ever to come in. I think what has been suggested is that there be a zoning ~lhich defines some extension of Harlocke to a cul de sac and then it be zones RS-5 to the west, south and the east. I think that is what Mr. Knabe was proposing. So you would delineate that. Kubby I Can we put out a message like that and enforce such a message during a platting stage. If they come in with something different but it follows all of our rules and regs, how do we- Franklinl You always have the ability to determine how streets are going to be laid out in subdivisions within the city. I think the problem that I would foresee if you don't take it upon yourselves as a capital project to acquire the land and .....:L n "T '0 J",:< .",."'.. 1;",,:, ". ,.,,',' ,-.' .',r')":' :--: "Z',; ~'. '! ',". ,~~~ -. ;.:....,:'. '. I........ .- I.,.. ,5 I ~. I , i.! ,'fO"':' '1. 8 ..) '...... "-,"''''",-,:'j, I, ~~m - ' .r r-' \ \ \ ~ , ~ , ' , ' I ~: II'" \ I ~ j ,:\;,.~/~: ,~, I .I.",'" l;ill I'L' "r;-~,', - :'l., 0 , \'1 ... . "t . ." ',~ !:~ . ',' ,'c' ~ ". . , ,.1. .~... .. ,.-........,. , -',' ....., _._-.~:.,-._"~,- ,. , #5a-e page 17 establish that cuI de sac is that if development does not occur during the tenure of this council or for some long period of time, they is nothing to ensure-there is no law to ensure that that happens. And so, if in fact you wish to do ,that the best way to do it is to literally set it in concrete. Pigott/ No pun intended. Franklin/ Yes, pun intended. Horow/ Any other questions for staff. Throg/ Not for staff. I would like to ask a couple of questions in the spirit of dialogue and understanding and I think I want to direct them towards Bill Knabe but anyone else from the association maybe could feel free to answer them. So I will just address it to you Bill. You are a property owner so how would you respond to the claim that we often here that it is my property, I can do with it what I want. I don't want anybody telling me what to do with my property. We hear that quite often. W. Knabe/ I think the only response I can give to that is as a property owner I can express to you the feeling to you that I have that feeling sometimes when I think about it as my property. But I think that often times I have made decisions about the property that I own that are decisions that are made basically because of the neighbors that live around me. For example, I have four acres of land. I have decided that those four acres of land will be undeveloped even though I had been given a few years ago an opportunity to develop them as part of Apple Ridge. I,did that primarily because of the fact that we like to have some wooded area in the neighborhood and many of the people in the neighborhood enjoy that area and have enjoyed it in the past. That is the only way I can answer to you is I think I can understand that feeling but I also think if you are involved in a neighborhood-like if some of these people involved as developers or owners lived in our neighborhood I think they would have a different opinion about it. Throg/ Thanks, Bill. Could I ask one other question. Again, either you or another member. One of the possibilities, I guess, if we chose to rezone to RS-S, one of the possibilities is that if we pursued an OPDH process that could involve clustering of dwelling units and Karin Franklin, please tell me if I am wrong. My understanding is that for the Jensen Tract which is four acres, at RS-5 that means there could be 20 dwelling units on that piece of property. And if you clustered them it would be possible I think under current RS-S ordinance to build a 20 unit apartment building with the rest all being open space. So I am wondering simply whether the ~ 1101 rrr 'q - 'o,,],,',;;~~'" . ''',' "',.",", "', ,\"":"1 , .....:.- " . .' .' I I I [, I r 'I.! , "\!5' io,: "" ,.,,-.,',1' ;. ., ;' 'S'" mrntij . , ' ~ .( (-- \ , , i~ I " . I I, I ! , ' i ~', lL .J t~~' :9';, "ii' f0tj r.= :~~ '. " i . ,~~ t .: \', ' ,', . ~. , .. ... . ',' .,,::. . ~ .~.. . . " ..,".\; ~-,'.' ~'., :>~: ~ ,\';; .:;,~. i...,:L<,:; ~'.:;, ~,;; :.:~,:,;:: ,.;'_ . :.'':','..".'.......:.'.. #5a-e page 18 association would object to a 20 unit apartment building with the remainder of that 4 acre land being left alone. Knabe/ This is not a topic that the association has discussed so I hate to speak as a voice for them. I can tell you what I think and then you can disagree with me. I think the attitude of the association is we count cars. When we see RS-8 we see 300 more trips per day. When we see RS-5, that is the lowest density that would allow. If you actually used RS-2 we would be thrilled to death. Throg/ Thanks, Bill. Horow/ But the follow up question then is if it were an RS-5 zone but for all of the property, both the Jensen and the Rupperts, would all be put in one apartment building on the Jensen property, you would still see the cars that would be coming on Harlocke and Weeber. Knabe/ But we have no choice because the property is going to be developed. If you ask us what is ideal is we see it all as a park but we have always seen it as a park. We have treated it that way for years. But that is not fair to the developer and we know that. So the lowest density you allow, by law, is RS- 5. So we count the cars. Nov/ I think we also have to consider the fact that Harlocke Street and Weeber Street will not be the only street if this area is ever developed. And so we cannot say with any certainly that all the traffic will necessarily be on your street. It is a matter of speculation at this point. Horow/ Are there any other questions that council has for any of the speakers. Bakerl I have one question. Mr. Knabe, I just want to get clear with the statement that you just made. Your objection to the RS-8 is simply a matter of potential traffic counts. Knabe/ That is right. Bakerl Okay. Horow/ Is there anyone else in the public who would like to address before-I am assuming there will be a motion to continue this. /I would again- I am not a developer and so the nomenclature that you are addressing here with the 20 houses. I mean I agree with Bill that car count is sort of the common denominator. On the other hand the picture that I have in my mind of clustering frankly doesn't sound real attractive. And I guess at least representing the- And trying to be consistent v'~ - )"..,....,",:, ,',"" , '. " '..".."" "':','.::'.~,2.<:~.". .<.:;~.;.~." , , ... u "'......',.1___ --.t.l - . .'_ .-'.'..i:} , . ".:: . ~ -".. ,.. -, '.' r , 'I.!. '. I" , ..-" :15 ,10. . '.' .,.,.,-,.',-", -' '.' i~~~~':' ~'~~:,~;;""i~'; ,.:" ,,', ~ #5a-e page 19 , , with what I have said both here tonight and numerous numerous meetings that I have attended at the P/Z Commission is s.f. dwelling for me is the most ideal of all situations and I guess- a 20 unit apartment complex no matter where it is positioned frankly doesn't roll off my tongue very well and the traffic count of that depending on how those apartments are built and what sort of-how it would attract. I don't know. If they are pseudo dormitories for the University of Iowa we are in trouble and that is exactly what is up and down Benton street. So, I don't know, I guess is sort of speculative at best. Throg/ By asking the question I didn't mean to imply producing the kind of apartment building was the only possible way of clustering. There would be other ways of doing it. / I understand but, again, as the law reads" I think I understood you. Karr / Madam Mayor, you have a motion on the floor to accept correspondence. Do you want to take a vote on that. i i \ I Horow/ It was moved by Karen, seconded by Bruno-by Jim to accept the correspondence. I thought we took-all those in favor signify by saying aye (ayes). Moved by Kubby, seconded by Throg to continue a-e to July 19. Any discussion. All those in favor signify by saying aye (ayes). Okay. Thank you. ""'<.., /,.~ ~\'; " ' .' \ ,: .1'. ~ '/ I I r, '0 ;}, " ,L ~;,.,i,I".,:.":. ' 1"..._,..-~'~....r"'~7""n~'''''~'.'vr:-t._''7\W''~-~......n-'.-'-'1~~.....PT.'...,' ., v', /,>:,0.,,',.. "{i:::'\;'~;"" ,'\"'.', ,.,.,.'""',,... '."..'.r'j'S.'<n., .. ,"""",,):<,~:, ',i> ;:':"., .;",,?:',;:,,::\",::"::":""?:":,.,,:>,~_: -',' '',:-'', ',.' ,:f.'~', ,.::"..:,'.:'~:~.",;:,,4.J,t;; ('" .." " .,', " ,-' .,',.. " ',".1'," , '., ~.;"::-:'V..: '1'", sm,,:,',:,,! ...:.:j;\:f' :..,.' .... . , ,',' '...' . ',' , ~ , . , ... ......".>"., "1' ~. ....' . ,,' . . ....,' . :' ',:. ",". ;,"-,.,' .~"i~,"~.,:' " , .'- .:_,..--->-.~' ~,,,-,,,,,,,,,,,-,,,,"'.....~-.,"""': -..-"':"'-'",. , ! ! ! " 1 \"': \ \ ~ I' I ~ I , i I I I I I \ , , , ','C"," , ' 0 . ":1, ',. '" "'., , ' :~'__..-":'._._';"'.....__..",,,...,,.-~'..ll.>.,.,,,..,;'::j',.:.~c.::.'", :.;.'.'.;\.;.'.-.~.:;.-:'I.:l;'-ll:;;:.J.t.1;:,~t:._..:-!,-:,;,,-,,;\, . Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting July 5, 1994 Page 5 b. PUBLIC HEARING ON AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO CHANGE THE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HIGHWAY 1 WEST FROM 8-16 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE TO 2-8 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. ,'to . Comment: At its May 19, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning Commission, by a vote of 6-0-1, with Dierks abstaining, recommended approval of the amendment of the Comprehensive Plan land use map designation of the subject property from 8-16 dwelling units per acre to 2-8 dwelling units per acre. The Commission's recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the staff memo- randum dated May 5, 1994. ,I \\0/ )P '! Action: ~:Ib 1/'1 c. PU8L1C HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ORDI- NANCE BY CHANGING THE USE REGULATIONS OF APPROXIMATELY FOUR ACRES OF LAND, KNOWN AS THE JENSEN TRACT, LOCATED EAST OF HARLOCKE STREET FROM RM-44, HIGH DENSITY MUL TI- FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, TO RS-5, LOW DENSITY SINGLE-FAMILY RESI- DENTIAL. (REZ93-0007) Comment: At its May 21, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning Commission, by a vote of 4-2-1, with Scott and Jakobsen voting no and Dierks abstaining, recommended approval of the rezoning of four acres of land located east of Harlocke Street from RM-44 to RS-5. The Commission's recommendation is consistent with the staff recommen- dation contained in the staff memorandum dated May 5, 1994. I II j, '1/ i' '~ .~~ '" //f . Action: .i' d. PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ORDI. NANCE BY CHANGING THE USE REGULATIONS OF AN APPROXIMATE 11.5 ACRE TRACT OF LAND, KNOWN AS THE RUPPERT TRACT, LOCATED GENERALLY NORTH OF HIGHWAY 1 WEST FROM RM-44, HIGH DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, TO RS-8, MEDIUM DEN- SITY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. (REZ93-0007) Comment: At its May 19, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning Commission, by a vote of 6-0-1, with Dierks abstaining, recommended approval of a City-initiated application to rezone' an approximate 11.5 acre tract of land located generally north of the Highway 1 West from RM-44 to RS-8. The Commission's recommendation is generally consis- tent with the staff recommendation contained in the staff memorandum dated May 5, 1994. ,\" If}- >~ Action: ~~,) ,,; '1;fJ . ,- v , .," ',I" j--"'''-'"'''''~''~'''' "''''''!''''''''''~'''''''"''''''''rr''n-' .., ""1""" :1" , 0, ',! ,;;,'!,",' ,"':',' ", ",' ,'" 00,'" ":;',:' "''''~ ", "", '" 0' ,I' :::,:",:,:;,':',.,::::<O'~':,',I;;"~:~:i,'::, \V~:," ,":',' '., ," .," '..;' . <)',5',', ,', " ""'" :':"~', '. ,',\" ."., r',' 1,>-;,..''- 'II.",.,:, "",. ',' ','" '.,l, '" ' '. J ,. " ".',":,'/' ,'i'"';:"",""1 .- ,'. :"'"'' ~ j','...;,;......~.,""~.,.~..J', - ',,"," , \.. -- ","\, ',,', ". ".: ~i\~."'-"\'\, , .... ,~'i:-." ", ... . . ',<i.,. "\i" ,. " "'\1" .:_':..:.. -'~', ":" ",. '. " ..",.::, ;.:",:-." .,'.' , , , ..... '., ~. ""', . 4' . '. . . '_l ", .'.... ... " ,_" _~,..~:~.~:'.,.:~""..;'~..i~~~L!:~___.. . . ~ . /"., ,-. -. - . . .. .. . . ': _.__:.-.....:_";....;,_~......,,..,...;...,..,...:..........~.~.'...l.'-"<'.'.....',....,,~::'-.;,;~.,.::'.;. ... ~'_.., ...;.....:,:.~..L;~b ~:;-;:,.,';-~:.~::~.:..:..:;_,~.,,'n":,;:\~':~ ...;.....M~...:...'K'.. _ . " ,'! Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting July 5, 1994 Page 6 1 j " I e. PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ORDI- NANCE BY CHANGING THE USE REGULATIONS OF AN APPROXIMATE TWO ACRE TRACT OF LAND LOCATED GENERALLY ON THE WEST SIDE OF HARLOCKE STREET FROM RM-44, HIGH DENSITY MUL TI- FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, TO RS-5, LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY RESI- DENTIAL, (REZ93-0007) Comment: At its May 19, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning Commission, by a vote of 6-0-1, with Dierks abstaining, recommended approval of the rezoning of an approximate 2 acre tract of land located generally on the west side of Harlocke Street from RM-44 to RS-5. The Commission's recommendation is consistent with the staff recommen- dation contained in the staff memorandum dated May 5, 1994. Action: ~~u =j~. '-, f. PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 36 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF IOWA CITY, IOWA, ENTITLED "ZONING" TO PERMIT BUILDING CONTRACTOR FACILITIES IN THE CC-2, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONE, BY SPECIAL EXCEP- TION, SUBJECT TO THERE BEING NO OUTDOOR STORAGE. I ! .,..~ ,I, ' J: c~ fM I ' I ! ill Comment: At its May 19, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning Commission, by a vote of 6-1, Gibson voting no, recommended an amendment to the CC-2 zone regulations to permit building contractor facilities within the zone, subject to the provision that all storage be contained within the building, and that the use be subject to the special exception provisions. The Commission's recommendation is inconsistent with the staff recommendation contained in the staff memorandum dated May 5, 1994. Action: ~ fHW al(VdA(/~ g. PUBLIC HEARING ON A RESOLUTION TO ANNEX LAND IN THE VICINI- TY OF THE INTERSECTION OF MORMON TREK BOULEVARD AND HIGHWAY 1 AND TO ANNEX LAND NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSEC- TION. (ANN94-0005) ;', " Comment: At its May 19, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning Commission, by a vote of 6.1, Dierks voting no, recommended approval of the proposed annexation. The Commission' s recomm~ndation is consistent with the staff recommendation containAe2.~h~ staff memo- randum dated May 12, 1994. ~ ~ Action: frtI;/~ tJ.W{Jf- (I-'fIJlJ./Jprf(}riM~ aU ~ 1~,I ~ -a (J(nJt,udJ h 1)9 df..~ ",', .,.. .. .oj'.,..'.", j..."..",..,""..,"''',.,'''I'',..,..,'"'''''''"""'"."..,"''"'f'"l"'" 'I' ',,' , .~. " ',: .d.' -" ",,',""',' " ,'" . '" , "".,,,,,,,.\ '"''''''''''\',...''' ",', ", ", 0" ;'':'1'" ii:.;.:',',L:: ','.. .." '.,'. "":'. " "'.t'''' 5:':>',":,-",: ,', '.,'::~; ",' ',",,",.. , )", .,~.. _\..,::J'.';I~' :-:":'-:,I'~,,':';,' ::, ' .', ',,' .' ..~'" ' , ,", """'-'~'~"\J";I,-..I ,:,~i , .,' N:' . C' '...... --<l '. 0 \'\.' ~._~------ ';1-, ~. , , =' " ~ , . " .~,'. ' ; r ::: ',' " ";,,' ' .,,:' """"",,,,!,Q, ~~;~;SN~F' : .i;~'- " #5g page 1 Horowl (#5g) Public hearing is open. KubbYI Tom, if you remember, would you tell us why Sally voted no on this. I don't remember reading it. .....;: Horow/ Mr. Scott. KUbby/ Do you remember why Sally voted no on this. Scotti Yes, because we have an informal policy that all rezonings have to have the opportunity to have two public discussions and it was the majority will of the Commission to waive that and Sally voted in the negative as a point of- . j' , " . 'r. Horow/ Protestation. Anyone wish to address council on this issue. Kubby/ Thank you, Tom. Karr/ Could we have a motion to accept correspondence. I " I 1 , ,.! _I j I i , Horow/ Moved by Pigott, seconded by Throg. Any discussion. All those in favor signify by saying aye (ayes). As I understand it, due to the need to get legal descriptions completed we have been asked to continue this to July 19. Moved by Throg, seconded by Baker. Any discussion. All those in favor signify by saying aye (ayes). We will continue until July 19. , . -j I ,;! (i (~~ '\ J~ r~1 . " ~, If. ~ .,J ,.1 .!: . I;' '\ "' "."','," " .' ,,,,:, " ," ".' ~.;';;',,' 1.-', F ' '~~. '1::;:,;,;,}"n;;:Ff~!7,~''''~''''!:;Y''''!''''T:-:!0T;;O''''':!!I'\';1 r;j'\ ,:."U':i\';..,:",i,()ii';!>' }.!;?",',!,,::,,:,.,' ,... ,'.."'."."'...,.,.:""!'i"'..,~'$.\{-,." l,g}:, :".\\' ".c-- 0- ...=: .!: .....,. ""-" <"1 . ""~-:';I" '.-,~-. ~',""".l ~ ...., I (1 ~ ~ , , i I i I i \ ~ ;~~j rll 1 "j' J: L: ,'" .;' "..". , ,,""il' . ',~ :_". ~ . !'to' .,'1""" .... ".', 'l';", ~ , , . . . :-~: ,'~;. , . , , " . ,'.' '..:....--" ,_.'-~,._'''''':''-''''''';_''''Ah';''''''''''''''~'~~='-''.'';.-''\''~'L-:.' ,.,,,_'_;,,.... _~.'._~.... .. ..'-_.._........_..--:..__._::.,c.;;" Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting July 5, 1994 Page 7 h. PUBLIC HEARING ON A ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ORDI- . NANCE BY CHANGING THE USE REGULATIONS FOR PROPERTY LO- CATED IN THE VICINITY OF THE MORMON TREK BOULEVARD/HIGHWAY 1 INTERSECTION FROM COUNTY A1 TO CI-1, INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL, AND LAND NORTHWEST OF THE INTER- SECTION FROM COUNTY R1A TO CO-l, COMMERCIAL OFFICE. (REZ94-0007l Comment: At its May 19, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning Commission, by a vote of 6-1 , Dierks voting no, recommended approval of rezoning land in the vicinity of the Mormon Trek Boulevard/Highway 1 intersection from County A 1 to CI-1, Intensive Commercial, and rezoning land northwest of the intersection from County R1 A to CO-1, Commercial Office. The Commission's recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the staff memorandum dated May 12, 1994. '7) ~~ ~ lfjJ, Action: ~ivj)(/ IJftI- ~a~ . /I//4ffW i. PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ORDI- NANCE BY CHANGING THE USE REGULATIONS OF A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 402 S. LINN STREET FROM PRM, PLANNED HIGH DENSI- TY MULTI-FAMILY flESIDENTIAL ZONE, TO CB-5, CENTRAL BUSINESS SUPPORT ZONE. (t3u;r'i I<<cc.ltp,w) Comment: At its June 2, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning Commission by a vote of 5-1, Gibson voting no, recommended approval of rezoning property located at 402 S. Linn Street from PRM to CB-5. The Commission's recommendation is not consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the staff report dated May 18, 1994. Action: ./w,~) j. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE BY CHANGING THE USE REGULATIONS OF A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 402 S. LINN ~TREET FROM PRM, PLANNED HIGH DENSITY MULTI- FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONE, TO CB-5, CENTRAL BUSINESS SUPPORT ZONE. (FIRST CONSIDERATION) Comment: See item i above. In a letter dated June 10, 1994, Lori L. Klockau requested expedited consideration of this proposed rezoning; Action: 11~I/./A~ I~tl/lf ~Jl/ ~ /1;~- , , . ~'h"_._A..._'_... r: td.w 11;;111 .,. , ~. . I I , I I I " "" I ,11 . ';\. " ,.1,1 " '.1: . .-.- " ' . . ,~., , ' ' '-..-:, .';' j..:-....,....,.,..''"..''''.'''...'''''''''"''''''''''....I~'''."..:.."I"'""'i" .";",',' :/'" :<,':',>,':.:,'" ";;,("~':'.':,~', ,: '.'\ -.' "" :""'"..,', :':>\.., . ..' "'~:, }"""'" ,0",.. ,,',,' '," , ''') 5,,' ' 0, ,~~,. . "-' ..:.....';.;:.tT.,' ,:~i'<':)l'."",">':"'" , ' ,. , " ,~,.', ",',":,<,',-,\;>'i-' /1; C'. ~ :, ",,' 0 I ' , '.. .\ t~.:.'J'i~''::'" - ' .~._.... , r .\ -', c \ \ I ',\ I \\ I~'''I(-~ . ! . ,/ .. I \ I , I " I ' , I , I !: I I !~~~ i " , \ I I 'I..,' \.....-- , q'~'~I"'" '~" .~~ ,t,",' "i~I~,', \, ,~~. \"'t,W': I'" :rft~:t" " .---- {(I-'~ , ".. 1':; :. ' ,.tl,\t', , . ,~' ... . ~ """. . ',,'.' .J..."'",,~ '0" ".' ,.; .'. .t".........;/....,.....', " .........' . ...:.:"-';~..::.oc.;:,:....-:'_..,,:. #5i page 1 Horow/ (#5i) Declare the p.h. open. Lori Klochau/ My home address is 1031 Briar Drive. My business address is currently 150 E. Court street in the Mid America Bank building. I am an attorney in Iowa City. I practice basically family law and domestic relations with Dan Bray and we are requesting that the council consider the proposal to rezone this property located at 402 S. Linn from its current zoning of PRM to CB-5. As you stated before, the commission recommended this rezoning. The staff's not approval of this can be categorized as mild and basically trying to be conforming with what the council had been saying that they intended to do with this area which may have changed since the staff's meeting and recommendation on this issue. I think the council has recently said that they would like to see this particular area to be primarily residential with sprinkles of commercial use and that is what we are asking to be is a sprinkle. This is a really neat old building that has had kind of a unique history. I have brought along photographs to show special features of this (can't hear). We initially thought this house was built in the 1920's and with more research we found out it was built in the 1890's around the turn of the century. I talked with Irving Weber who grew up as a child down the street from this area and he said originally this house was opened by a fellow named Dr. Lawyer who was a dentist and he had a sign up that said Dr. Lawyer, Dentist, that ended up in Rippley's Believe It Or Not. Dr. Lawyer ran his dental practice out of his house. Later on this property was owned by Frank Vogel whose lumber yard was in behind there and he kind of operated his lumber yard out of this house. So this house in this area has a long history of kind of being a mix of residential itself which I think is kind of neat and I think if you look at that whole area that whole neighborhood is kind of an eclectic mix of commercial and residential and I think it is a good idea to have it remain so. We have contacted all of the neighbors that are located within 200 feet of this property. There is ten of them. Not only are people not resisting this but they are adamantly supporting us in this. They would like to see this property not only be rezoned from PRM to commercial so that it can be not so intensely used but they had also liJ<e to see this old building restored. I think you can see from the photographs that we have given you some severe interior and exterior deterioration has already started to take place. I think it would be not cost effective to duplex this and restore and preserve it. What we are planning to do or what we would like to do is make this law office. I talked with people that have owned it recently and they are just kind of curious about what we want to do with this parcel. I said we would really like to make it a law office and they said you know we were talking about this house and it would be a perfect law office. So the Youth Homes that had been in there recently before we had contacted - ... .__.~--- ... ~_. ~ ..,~.._._, " j,..".,",.. :. ,', ~.:,'., , 'I :.......;,:r.....;: ... " 0, ~. . ,._, : .j TIP 15 ,~ ~fj,: " .' .~~ .. ." " ~,,, , , "-" " J\' : (-'\ \l ~ I"" ".....-" I. \ I " , , II I I I I ~:. ~ ,,' ~... \\, 0 " f"1 ""1 ' . ,'. ~\i:. ,:. ,- +,. " "",:,' , . '~.. . .'~, ":'.~ '~j ,:' '-.:; .:~ '. #5i page 2 them thought it would be really a great use for this to be a law office. I think that comes for the nature of the original use of that house which was kind of an office home kind of setting. Because of the property that is adjacent to this property it is not possible to annex this to another property and develop it more intensely into a high density residential. I think that probably the only thing that this can be done besides you know what we would like to do is to have it be a duplex. I don't know that that would really be the highest and best use and wouldn't be conductive to preservation. I appreciate the controversy going on with the CB-5 zone and the things that the council is struggling with now in terms of the tax abatement and the parking fees. I think the reality is is that we have a negligible impact on those issues as well as they would have a negligible impact on us. I would like for the council to very seriously consider our request to rezone this from PRM to CB-5. I do believe strongly that what we are proposing to do with this would be the highest and best use of this parcel. And also allow the preservation and restoration of a building which is really in a very highly visible area of the city that leads to the core of d.t. Thank you. Horow/ Thank you. Kubby/ What about the parking. Is there sufficient parking there now for the current-for your proposed use. Klockau/ There are three parking spaces in the front which Youth Homes kind of snuck in and they are not conforming and it is unclear to me what exactly we will be allowed to do with them. I think that we will have to take the three that are in the front of the building and make them into two for handicapped use. We already-we have leased parking space already in the parking lot across the street for our staff. We intend to continue leasing those for our staff. It works out well because our current office is just right up the street. We are pretty low traffic law office. We don't have more than 3- 4 clients in our office in the day just by the nature of what we do. What we do is a fairly case intensive thing so we don't have a lot of people in and out and we think that the client parking along with the off street parking that is available would be sufficient for our client needs. I think it will be necessary for us to keep our leased parking available for our staff which is what we have had to do anyway. Novl What about handicapped accessibility. Klockau/ We are working on that. steve Vanderwoody is a person that is involved with historic preservation and he is also very interested in handicapped accessibility and making it aesthetically pleasing in older buildings. And actually the - - ~ - -.:~=: )"..."'.","..""" "0' ','; " " ''','' -- "r' ,"'" ,'" '.\,' 1,.1,:. ',,' ".~....' " ~':':;" , . -'- ',~ . .oj',." ", . ,.. . , ' I , , , I , , .1 " "'lj"S:: 10,. ." .' . , ' 7:iIT.~.., ,: /' , .,\, (-'~ \ , '\ ,/,:o!I '.>4).-1 i r I" I I I , I : , , I I : ~, I I. 11 d,,) '11 ,~ }I"'" ;:.j ~'1 i!;r~: , :(-,.,',0,' " " , " i '~t I,\'i" .~ " . '0' ,':' ~ ". . .. ',.. '., :~, .', #Si page 3 site and the porch and the parking lend itself fairly easily to handicapped accessibility. We have looked at that. We will need to put either a lift or some kind of ramp in the front of the building. If we get any more employees which is probably likely in the future we will have to have two handicapped accessible bathrooms. There is already one. There was a person that lived in the residents that was handicapped. So there is already one handicapped bathroom in the downstairs and right next to it there is a really big closet which is big enough and adjacent, luckily, to plumbing that we think we can do that pretty well. We were struck, when we walked into this building, how easily the flow of the rooms and what is already there will lend itself to what we want to do. So, it will work out pretty nicely. Nov/ Are you planning to have an apartment above. Klockau/ We have thought of that. The third floor of this building is really odd and not very useable. What we would rather do is eventually be able to expand, add maybe one or two more attorneys and use the second floor for apartments. Steve Vanderwoody was suggesting to us that we put an apartment upstairs which is something we hadn't really thought about logistically because of the nature of the work that we do and confidentiality concerns that we have. I think we would be a little bit uneasy with people that we don't know coming in and out of the building. Nov/ I did go over and look at it and I noticed there was another entrance in back. Klockau/ This was a Youth Homes building until just a few weeks ago and I think there ingress egress rules about fire escapes and things like that made it necessary for them to add that because that was sleeping quarters upstairs for youth. There is no plumbing up there. There is not place to put a bathroom or kitchen because the dormered ceilings come almost down to the floors. There is no square flat walls up there. Nov/ So even the second floor is not usable as a- Klockau/ It could be. It actually was at one time. Dr. Lawyers relatives, I can't remember who now, I think his mother-in-law or sister or somebody lived upstairs and there was a kitchen at one time on the second floor and there are two bathrooms on that second floor. But, again, because of the nature of the work that we do, it would be our preference not to have an apartment up there. But it is not something that we have ruled out in looking at this just in terms of cash flow. Throg/ Were any of Dr. Lawyer's relatives bankers. Only kidding. I don't have any real problems with what you are proposing for ~. " ..",.-- . - , - ;';' , ,,' O)"i" .,..,' ~ ... ~. . ~ I ! ~ ! .! }S ' 1'0', ....c...._.,. ", "'r:..:r :m;omi " ;~," ,.... .; .{'I::. ; '~ ~ ....';,<,','.' .i'," . ;\t"" ':.,\il,;' .tJI '. ",',," , . --.' , I .... .,," "~. .~ , I ~ ,." \.. ~. . '~., . . ,..:,~...'j;-,~'~:;.;::.:i,;'r,,;;;-r;:~..:,~::.<Xi ::~\;:~~~,'j.~L':'::L''::'"':i.''' " '\ i ., #5i page 4 the building at that site. But you are not the only possible owner at that site. So let's say you sell it to somebody else. What other possible uses consistent with the CB-5 zone could that parcel then be put to. And maybe Karin Franklin would like to address that. Klockau/ My understanding of CB-5 would be a broad broad range of possibilities. It could be anywhere from a bookstore to a restaurant to I don't know what. I think the proximity to the Court House, the kind of pinch for office space that there is d. t, I think it would be likely if Dan and I sold it that other la~lyers or professional people would want it just because of its nearness to other things. He and I were talking about handicapped accessibility and I kind of said half jokingly that he and I will probably be glad to have that some day when we are needing that ourselves. Really that is ,;. , ! CHANGE TAPE TO REEL 94-87 SIDE 1 Horowl Any other questions. Thank you. Is there anyone else who wish to address council on this issue. Tom Scotti Chairperson of the Iowa city P/Z commission. I do not know where you are all on this item. But for the public record if council is so inclined to disagree with the Commission I need to inform you that the Commission would request consultation on this item. f7':1" \21 " I', Horowl Thank you. Anyone else. Declare the p.h. closed. l r \ ",; .f' . n I, i , , ~ l ~ ~f,' iJi 9 l ,;,r,,~ 0 , '}, ,.. _ :-~ v'...> , : , " : : ~ ' ,.,,',...,'..,'..:..r:' /,:~ j""^'::."'; "':""""""';"""",7;;""';;"';"'::'.":""':;]""'i'I", ,', I "":i, ,,);'\.,0':1" .:,;';",', ,,'\ ,'",.. ..j" '" .n,,: ,', ',J:',;""" ','" ',' . " .-"......'.".<,!~::,.:, '--:':~':;::'<':,',,>' .' .. .~',~ . :..,<:",~.~~~.r. <-,-' '''~'''-i.'' "j\, ...../ ~, ,l.' ,-' ,,;. ' \'~ I ~ \ , ~ r ! i I , I I I I II ~ r 1,1 f' ~~i .....;..., " \-; 'r';'} ',.,...... ..; ':"',"",.", "~, " . :;:'1\4)::' ',:'. !~. .'.:'.. ,', ....' " " ~. , :,'... . " " 1 ~.'. .- ..', f" .','t. , ~. . ';" #5j page 1 Horow/ (#5j) Is council so inclined to give this first consideration. Moved by pigott, seconded by Throg to consider this ordinance, give it first consideration. Discussion. j KUbby/ I would not be inclined to collapse at the next meeting then if we're going to vote on it at the p.h. but I've kind of struggled with this one because I don't like the idea of having a big barrier in between parts of the zone when the other part is the only thing on the other side of the barrier, meaning Court street. But I think I've been convinced that because of the other uses, long term uses of the property around this particular piece of property because of our discussion about sprinkles of commercial property in with residential across Court street, I think this is a okay thing to do. " " Nov/ I'm inclined to think it's better than okay. I think it is a nice old house and I would like to see it kept. And I think if we are zoned for high density residential, there isn't anyway this building can be preserved. .I Horow/ Does anyone else have any other discussion. c.\ ,',~" Baker/ I would like to say that I don't have any problems with this particular project. I think it will be an improvement to the existing property. I am going to vote against it for a different reason. I talked to Lori about this over the phone and I am not losing a lot of sleep because it is going to pass. until I get comfortable vlith the underlying regulations and rules for the CB-5 in general, I am not going to expand it. And also I think that Dick Gibson has been the lone vote on P/Z for a couple of issues and he needs some support. So I will support him. Horow/ with that, roll call- Passes, 6-1 (Baker) first consideration. '/. I I , - ,. , ," , , .,'. ";I.~,.' ..:,\. _.;:"',1)\ ',:~. - )"',.."'",..,""""""'"..,,..,,'-',.."',..,,"""..."""1'''''..''' 'I "" " 0,.' .~, ',,' , .':r:":r:::'>:\,":~">.::''-'; \"';-'" h" >,.l<__' "l,\.~:.""",,,, :':",~,-~" ':," , '0" "~"': """,0,"" ,'" ',' 'I. 5' ' , :":':"':"';;',:~",>:\:""::,."" ,:~~'~~\'>'" '" ..' .'.., ""';"_~:"";'>'''l''')': ," r,,'o~ 'I , , ",," "" , , "'.,..,,. .",.,,',,; :\' ., .~ '~~.^"i . , -J i , i , I I , , , .;,;'<:i .11 r\ \~ m I ' .j i .. I i J I i '.~ ' . , ~ I -~, .(1.'0 "'. . ..;;....\.. ",-", , . .', . ; . I ',' ':~t,\ ~.(:: ,'~. .::.','. 'l",,- . :.-'1 . .:~. .'( , ".. :',". . . . ., ":.'.. '. .... '.' .... _. .'.~.""',........"",-'J~..:.~~". _~..:.u.....'~.~.~.~, ",_~,_~,-_,,"':':_~, .~'; " "' ':_'_.::.-_~._..~.._..;""",,,,;,""''''''''''.!'~'':':7;h\';~':''~"''~:':J.__''~'C'~:~;;-';':;J.,;;.:.\.,..1J";:;,~'"::;,, '..';.;'.;.~~...i.:>'(,,;,:","~,.i';:.i:,~;;;'iJil.,::! ;"~':;'ti"~ - .. Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting July 5, 1994 Page 8 k. PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 36 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF IOWA CITY, IOWA, ENTITLED "ZONING" TO CHANGE THE DEFINITIONS OF "DEVELOP- MENTALLY DISABLED," "FAMILY CARE FACILITY/FAMILY HOME" AND "GROUP CARE FACILITY." Comment: At its June 2, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning Commission by a vote of 6.0, recommended approval of amending the Zoning Ordinance definitions for "developmentally disabled," "family care facility/family home" and "group care facility." The Commission's recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the staff memorandum dated June 2, 1994. Action: Yt~ ~~, rr~ t/A/..~ I. PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ORDI- NANCE BY CHANGING THE USE REGULATIONS OF FOUR ACRES LOCATED WEST OF SCOTT BOULEVARD AND NORTH OF COURT STREET FROM CN-1 TO RM-20. IREZ93-00121 Comment: At its April 21, 1994, meeting, by a vote of 6-0, the Plan- ning & Zoning Commission recommended denial of a request to rezone four acres located west of Scott Boulevard and north of Court Street from CN.l to RM-20. The Commission's recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the staff report dated De. cember 2, 1993. In a letter dated May 4, 1994, the applicant requested that this item be placed on the Council agenda. Comments were re- ceived at the May 24 public hearing on this item. The public hearing was continued. Action: ,h pfvv m. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE BY CHANGING THE USE REGULATIONS OF FOUR ACRES LOCATED WEST OF SCOTT BOULEVARD AND NORTH OF COURT STREET FROM CN-l TO RM.20. (REZ93-0012). (first consideration) Comment: See item I. above. Action: -iaMr .I ~AM ~;~~ /~ e (I /;./J ;/ ,. af~ r~ Ir' " ~:. I . ,..~ . I I ';" ,/ , , , , "j: lfx(11. - , ,I \. ....:. ',.,' " ,. .,,,'..'....1.'.' " '1'--"~":':''''"' ",'\ ','" ''':'1"' ,: ,\ ,''''''.,\'''''7" "'1','0', I", '-"" \ ,)0: 1::1\ f) 5 ,\"'.' , "':',', '.' ;~"I ' .' " . , I' ,'.' ......> ",", ~ ' . -, .....<.,)",,\\,(.,:,;,") ,,' " "." .:;rzt;.r:i, , . .:\ (-. \ , ,/,'I ,~...,., r . I ! , , ! i , , " k ) I" I, I, I ,~ '~I' ,.j" ~. r-- '~,_ 0 ., " i . :~t;\'1 " ~ '.. . ~ ". ~. . . "'.:~' ::" '.'.:, .. ; , " _ .__~:.....;..::i:. ";,,,., ...0,',: #51 page 1 Horow/ (#51) The p.h. is now being continued. Mr. Glasgow Bruce Glasgow/ 834 N.Johnson. In the home and the deer and the antelope, we had 8 deer in our backyard only 12 blocks away from here last night. Anyhow I've got a short note for you to read. Isn't it nice to have someone come in front of you and want to downzone for a change. That's what we're here for. The question before this body is whether we should downzone from CN-1 commercial to apartments. And you're probably wondering why. Why would anybody want to get rid of commercial zoned property and replace it with apartment zoned property. The answer to that question lies in the way that CN-1 is handled by staff here. Let's look at the history of this land and the existing zone that we now have. My firm has owned this ground for 25 years. It \~as zoned Highway Commercial and the whole 25 acres was zoned Highway Commercial 25 years ago. Then through a comedy of errors like moving Scott Blvd. because we put the dam in the wrong place in Scott Park Drive and we'd have to donate a whole bunch of ground to put the new improved Scott Blvd. in. We supplied all the r.o. w. at no cost to the city. Anyhow we went along with the seven acres that were left after the smoke cleared. We designed it and developed it as CN-1 zone. This is where the fun begins. First we optioned all seven acres to representatives of Eagles Supermarket. They met with city staff and were told that their market would not fit in this zone because they wanted 65,000 sq. ft. and it was only zoned for 40,000. Now if I were a business man I'd work with someone who wanted to spend $6,000,000 out at the edge of town and pay a bundle of taxes. But there was no offer by staff to try and accommodate Eagles and get an upzoning on this thing or at least some better square footage. So they, they went away. They didn't go very far. Two years later and 27 trailers less why they're just down the street from us. Second we had a group of five doctors. They optioned two lots and wanted to put in a clinic. All they were allowed was 1800 sq ft. It wouldn't work. Their representatives and their architects could not make it work. So they left. Third a periodontist tried to get her building in there and her advisors came up with a minimal building, 2250. 1800 was all they could have. She left. The fourth, two dentists optioned one lot and were going to build an office building or a dental clinic. They were going to build it and one of the dentists had to go to the Board of Adjustment and prove that what he was going to do in this dental building would not harm the morals of the surrounding neighborhood. He was able to convince the Board of Adjustment that a dentist with 40 years of experience would not corrupt the said morals. This trip to the Board of Adjustment cost him more than $1000. The other dentist was told that she too had to do the same thing. She said no way and she left. Well in order to save the project, I agreed to build the building and sell half of it to the 10 .~ 'i .! "'-T~- I ...." - rt"- . - , Jr, " , \ . D,: , 0 )5 , ,,,' .... l-'.UtiE' f; ,_,' j' .~-- ,(: (-'\ \, \; y:'~ , ' " I ii II I , , , , I I ~'~ !,l '~). ,..,,'....... )' ~," l!'r~ l"': " "'j ... . '.~t\,\ ~ . ,'\, . " :~. ',.'.:. ~ ''''.. '.. ~. . ...'.-i,';:;, ":~ .::::,. .. ',. ~'.h!:'-. _': .~".':,,' .........;",..:.:,... #51 page 2 first dentist. I inherited a demand from the city staff that this building could not have a concrete basement floor in the basement. So I took that up, went down to the city staff and said why. And they said well if we allow you to put a basement floor in there you'll haul some things down and store them in the basement and you'll exceed the 1800 sq ft limitation. Well I told them I'd be on TV on Tuesday night to tell the people of Iowa City about this stupid thing and I was allowed to cement the basement floor. Only took me one day. Now that the building is built and ready for occupancy on the other side we have three professionals that said they could exist in 1800 sq ft. The only request was that a stool and lavatory be put into the basement. What do you suppose the staff said. You can't use a stool and lavatory in the basement because the use of those sanitary facilities will exceed the 1800 sq ft regulation. Well I figured then as long as the city didn't let any commercial out there why in the hell should I have any commercial. So I asked for the downzoning. Now I see the city has gone ahead and changed all the rules and regulations for the CN-1 zone. That's fine. A step in the right direction. Now we can have 2400 sq ft which would accommodate most everybody. We needed 3000. We got 2400. We can have apartments on the second floor if we go to that Board of Adjustment and I don't know why we have to go there but that's it. And we could have about 50,000 sq ft in the supermarket. Even more if the staff is allowed to tell them where to put the valentines and where they should have their drug store. But the do-gooders had to put in two extra pages on this CN-1 zone calling for bike racks, hiding air conditioners, hiding elevator shafts, art in the rear of the building, and the whole ball of wax. What does this all boil down to. I'd like to have the apartment zoning or get rid of some more of this stuff that you have for CN-1 zone. It's still not going to work. Any questions. Horow/ I'm sure you realize that a lot of the comments that you've made about staff, staff does do what council tells it to do. And I take offense at some of the jabs you've made at staff. I really will have to, when I first came on the P/Z commission you and I talked about this parcel. At that time you were talking about small stores, a clinic, almost a health oriented area. I guess I've been looking for something ever since and I \~ould hate to see you give up. I admire you for your longevity and I'd like to think that we're learning with you as to what we can put in there. You really want to go apartments. Glasgow/ Well it's accomplished one thing didn't it. It got the CN- 1 zone so that staff would look at it and change it. I couldn't get that done in five years. So maybe my $350 is paid off. That's what it costs to write a rezoning. No, I think the people of Iowa city need commercial but they should have commercial, not a bunch of rules and regulations that prevent i '. ID .' ,I 'c""-,',...,,.., :t 0 'I , ~.= i)"'" .,,", , .'.' ,':.:"" ::'.': 0<"".,. ...J> :-::"., ">"',-,. ..-. ~.' ..",.j: ? 5' I O~ .,.,",.",'! ' ,< llID.B( ", i , .,~ (-. \ \ ~ I' ., ! I i I . I I I I I r', II .~ ~f~ r,.~ , ;[" -. 0 " ;"j ... . '.~t \ ';: '\'" ,-, -. ',' '".' ~ ." ~... . . ,', " ,\,'~. -.'-'.', .......-.... , ..,'"".[..,._","" .".."",,'c.-,',-. ;.."......:......, #51 page 3 us from having our ground. Horow/ Council have any specific questions. Throg/ I just want to make sure I understand. I gather that you disagree with both the purpose and many of the requirements of the CN-1 as it's currently been written. Glasgow/ It doesn't work. Throg/ And you, I mean the sense I get is you want to be able to put whatever kind of commercial development out there that you're able to attract investors to commit money to, of whatever type, whether they're consistent- Glasgow/ Investors are people who are going to live there and operate. Throg/ Whether they're consistent with the neighborhood or have any rebound to the benefit of the people who live near the neighborhood commercial or not. Glasgow/ There are very few things we can put in there. I would think that you would want to tell your staff that if you're the boss tell the staff if somebody would come in to a zone, I don't care if it's CN-1 or CC-2 or what, and want to put up a building that they should come to you and say this is a good project let's see what we can do to preserve it. This is not happening. Kubby/ But the CN-1 zone is a very specific zone. That it's a smaller commercial area that's not real land intensive usage, that will be uses that the neighboring residential areas will come to. It's not for just any kind of commercial use. So it's a very specific zone and that's a perfect place for it right where it is. And it seems like we've really expanded what can happen there. There are more options as you said yourself tonight many of the people who left because the old zone wouldn't work, most of them could've made it work now. Glasgow/ You know you can't, you couldn't exist in the 1800. Now we've got 24. We wanted 3000, we got 24. 2400 sq ft, but why all this Mickey Mouse about not being able to use your basement. Horow/ I would like an answer to that but Bruce I also, I really do admire you for your longevity. I mean I'm sure you're going to outlast five councils to come. And it seems to me that since you have had the stamina to go this far with us, why don't you hang in there a little bit longer. I'm sure something can be worked out. I really would like to know about the basement. Karin, would you be able to address thatl please. ,'--" " - :~--. _ "~,o.."j.;,' ,.. . .....,., ,~' r , , , " ,. S'5 ' 10'" """.., ' , "',~:;:.'.\ ,/ . iSlllllBfc , " ,\ . . ~ -.~ ..,;. n .~~ r-', \ ~ I' I I . I' I I i , , II ~ '",' .[ " ".......1'.., . ','\t,.',' .".-'".'\1' ,,',','1 - ~,. '... . ;\, ," :." . i~ "', , " ~. .... '" . #51 page 4 Franklin/ Sure. It has to do with the maximum sq footage. And when you have a maximum sq footage allowance by creating another floor you then create the opportunity for use of that space. It's very difficult to enforce once the space is created, how that space is being used. We did increase the sq footage for office uses as Bruce has indicated, and there is a much longer list of permitted uses as I think you're all aware of. Horow/ Can the basement be used for storage. Why does he want the basement cement in the to begin with. Franklin/ That the particulars of this case I can't speak to. It was through enforcement and HIS, but I believe that the reason had to do with that maximum sq footage. And the maximum sq footage is to be for the entire use and that use includes bathrooms. It includes storage. It includes secretarial space, office space, the whole ball of wax. ',-', Kubby/ Because once it's there you can use it for office space or whatever other use. ! I , \i Franklin/ Exactly. Horow/ Thank you very much. Any other questions for staff. Okay. Unless I hear differently I'm going to close the p.h. Any other feeling on staff or council. I declare the p.h. closed. () '!, ,1' , '/ " " ,( "', - ~R1 .' s J'''''"'''~'''''' '"'",~"''"'r''''''''''''''' .....'.....1"......... ," "I';":'{i ,':,:: .',;:<':.,'~;>~_::,',:.,: . ". ..:".,{~.;, ':,' ';.;;~})\i~'il,~:'.~.;<':" \"':' ",::_0;'","1 ~'~., "",\".,'. '''''/,':'~ ,/~'"'2::':,: ~.():,-::, ,-'0',. :"~:: ",.""",,,..,0,,,, "I""""" ,')5 1, 'J' ,:" ,", '.' :"","0'_:,' "_"'~f ..,~/:\':".'.~,:',IJ)~',\,;,;,.,:'",' .' '",' i':,:,.,~" ~I ,,:,',,:;,::,i,l:,~',".";:-',;" o .:'.; ....... ..~ , ' - -------- .:..,.'-. ' ...."...... , ~ki,{:,..'~'~,.,;.:; .~ , " 1 ; ~-";",."I :~f !, , Ii ~(""I " C-.J . v""l. . ,', ," " , ' .:. ~~l ~ '. : .. '.~!.. . ,. "-". ,;." , ,'... . '1.,' ..: :... '/', . :. ~:. , , ...." ,.. 1,-" '. , . .,:. .'. ... . '~" "".. :...,:.:'~~>:~~:' ::....", ,.:;;::.>~;.:'~~.-.i .,.',:Y:i<i;.\' #5m page 1 Horow/ (#5m) Chair would entertain a motion to approve the ordinance. I I I Kubby/ As one of the do-gooders, I would move first consideration. Horow/ Moved Kubby, seconded Baker. Any discussion. Throg/ Well somebody has to start. I'd be happy to. I will vote against the ordinance as a do-gooder or whatever. It seems to me that that particular parcel of land is best suited for neighborhood commercial activities. It would be a mistake to rezone it to RM-20. Furthermore I think it's extremely important to have commercial activities within reasonable distances from residential, from places that people live. And the more we move in that direction as we've started to do with the the CN-1 zone, the better off we're going to be. We'll be able to create centers for neighborhoods so I see no sense in supporting this ordinance at all. Nov/ I tend to agree with that point. This is a logical place for a neighborhood commercial zone. "'. , " 'I Pigott/ I agree. And I also agree with many of the things that you said Sue about hanging in there with us that there are greater possibilities now because of that. Let's work it out. Let's see if we can get something there. It's a unique possibility. Horow/ Anybody else. I find myself in total agreement with Jim. Don't faint. ' Throgl Must've been a matter of misunderstanding. Let me explain. Horow/ Nope. No, sorry. Roll call- The ordinance fails 6-1 with Baker approving the ordinance. r.! I I I I I, I i ," o J "',.~-,_ ]',.,',.,"',',.,",..,,', '^ '"'''''..''1'''",'' ,....'......"'..1..,",'....,,",..,"',....;\" ,',{O,},;- ., ,',;/,' ;":.';"'S"'" """ ""';'5' >.. ..n ,.".. ",';'1 ..,,1.,""":'.,""";',.'. " ,.' .;1 ...U,r." _ ------od ..."..... -,-. . "" ,.,,1....,....',/.1,..,.' ([ , . " .>," ;(',..! --""'~'" ,- , ',"<'s mr." ',' '.f' .', .,...~..' ," I ',.: ! . i '. i '''', : , ! :....-: Ii \J ~ I ' I I I · ^ " '. .:.~"..-, . , ....,r\,\l:. .:.... .... " ',' " .,' '... . , ", ,....~. , ' '.', . ;.'" . ... u'. .._',;'. ,.,,,,~......._.-,~,,.,--~~.:,,,;-',~';<,,,-.;."::~:':"'.- "".:._.'...:~ .'_ '.._ :._~ , ' " . . . '. . ,".: .-;' , _. ___~...~..,.."~",....,__,."~.,......,,.:,,..'~l"-'-~',,:..,.'-:-I"..~'~~~: ....,':;:: ;;'. "C",,';..'.. " , .,:~', .;; ;', ',_,'.',';:.:.. :';,',;"",I'~' ~, ::", vA'.'.::';' ';":'1i..t:1JO'~',_ .-.",,;.~~";"'~,.. Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting July 5, 1994 Page 9 n. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE BY CHANGING THE USE REGULATIONS OF APPROXIMATELY 18.6 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED NORTH OF ROHRET ROAD AND EAST OF SLOTHOWER ROAD FROM THE COUNTY DESIGNATION OF RS, SUB- URBAN RESIDENTIAL, TO ID-RS, INTERIM DEVELOPMENT SINGLE- FAMILY RESIDENTIAl. (REZ94-0006) (SECOND CONSIDERATION) Comment: At its May 5, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning Commission, by a vote of 6-0, recommended approval of rezoning an 18.6 acre tract of land located north of Rohret Road from County RS to ID-RS. The Commission's recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the staff report dated April 21, 1994. Protest petitions from owners of over 20% of the property within 200 feet of the subject property have been received. Therefore, an extraor- dinary majority vote by the Council is required. Comments were re- ceived at the June 7, 1994, public hearing on this item. #At/ ,#~ ql.j.~ 1.l.'O ~~ ('/1/14/ 17e$>> 10 o. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE FINAL PLAT OF SOUTH- WEST ESTATES, PART SIX, A 10.21 ACRE, 25 LOT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION LOCATED NORTH OF PHOENIX DRIVE. (SUB94-0008) Action: Comment: At its May 19, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning Commission, by a vote of 7-0, recommended approval of the final plat of Southwest Estates, Part Six, subject to approval of legal papers by the City Attorney's Office and construction documents by the Public Works Department. The Commission's recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation in the staff report dated May 19, 1994. Construction documents have been approved. Legal papers are being reviewed. Action: 94-- ZZ'i , rc 0 Comment: At its May 19, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning Commission, by a vote of 7-0, recommended approval of the final plat of Dean Oakes Fourth Addition, subject to approval of legal papers by the City Attorney's Office and construction documents by the Public Works Department, and provision of a 35 foot waterline easement, north of the gas pipeline easement on Lots ~ 0 and 11. The Commissi- on's recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the staff report dated May 19, 1994. Legal papers and construction documents are being reviewed. 1~)~ (n.r4: )el r/Ju; ~ 5 r.) -: ,. -, - -,"-- Action: % 1~ '- <~... ,~,I"",:","'Ci;""";:O:'~::"!:'" l..." .,.':' ",:.)";'.' '\ .\ :,;':/~'~\'2;';':;:/,:' ,.'}11\;{;:' :':"';.:.,',:'::::>,.:.:,:: ' "ri" ::}:r~'.~':,7".(:-\;", . , , ~. 'I, ' . ~ .". \ l ,I,j ':::T""":" 'f,.""II:' , :IS ,.0> .,.', ". ,~~, .', '! . ...~!Fl~" , , '. '" ,< . r", . ,. .' . "t .._I\i" '.'~ . .' ... . ',' '....,1 ~ ". . , :.1. - . ,~...,. "....".-......_..'.._-"..~.-.....,.,...~.-., ~- ..---.-- - ~. . ',., :,'.."': ...."!._ .:, ;...:-'_..;]"J .,,'~-' '.A...'.,."",,,.,"- . . . _... .._. ..___" hq ........4..... ~ _-.. _,..~..__' "'-~. .c'.,." .,.,."., ,'. Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting July 5, 1994 Page 1 0 q..j. - 2,30 q. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CHAPTER 28E AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF CORALVILLE AND THE CITY OF IOWA CITY TO ALLOW THE CITY OF IOWA CITY TO REVIEW AND APPROVE ALL ZONING AND SUBDIVISION APPLICATIONS ON THE PORTION OF THE GREER TRACT LOCATED SOUTH OF CLEAR CREEK. .....: .r -''\ C " \ ~ I" ;.: I I , I , 1 , 1 , I II I k. I ~'; U", ''1iit \'y ,.~' !~:; \~i ~r rr~~ :L_"O Comment: On June 14, 1994, the City Council approved a Chapter 28E Agreement between the City of Coralville and the City of Iowa City regarding the Greer tract. The City of Coralville has requested that minor modifications be made to the agreement. The proposed modifica- tions are discussed in the attached memorandum dated June 30, 1994. Staff concurs with the City of Coralville's request.' Action: ~~jv /'11(1P/-U . .k/ ~) -Ma,) y. r. CONSIDER A LETTER TO THE JOHNSON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPER- VISORS RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF AN APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY JERRY L. EYMAN, ON BEHALF OF, PROPERTY OWNER FRANK KABELA, TO REZONE 29.04 ACRES LOCATED SOUTH OF 1-80 AND NORTH OF HERBERT HOOVER HIGHWAY FROM A 1, RURAL TO CP-2, PLANNED COMMERCIAL. (Z-9427). Comment: At its June 16, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning Commission, by a vote of 5-0, recommended that the City Council send a letter to the County Board of Supervisors, recommending denial of the proposed rezoning from A 1 to CP-2. The Commission's recommenda- tion contained in the staff memorandum dated June 16, 1994. Action: ~/~*f lev ~ Ab ~ -I::::~J ~/ldd~!/1f~LJJ ITEM NO.6. 'PUBLlC HEARIN~ON PROPOSED RESOLUTION OF NECESSITY FOR THE MAIDEN LANE PAVING & SANITARY SEWER ASSESSMENT PROJECT. Comment: See attached memo. Action: ,~tl~ ~ CONSIDER A RESOLUTION WITH RESPECT TO THE ADOPTION OF THE .' RESOLUTION OF NECESSITY PROPOSED FOR THE MAIDEN LANE PAVING & SANITARY SEWER ASSESSMENT PROJECT. ITEM NO.7. q~- l.'3/ Comment: This Resolution continues the assessment procedure. A~lon: YL71~dhJ I/;w ~ , ',~ .,' ~:" = ," ).."""'..',' ",'" . "'..'.', ':':"u.' '\(~~:1',",,',,' .11 \. ,'"" ,,;',,".'-. '"',:.'.1.'.''' ," , " " h,; j i \', ,;-" ~~, '0' , ' ,I.! '. , ,,""'F' ,5 ,10" " ","""""" ,'" '",Y '": ",,~. ,"" 'il' ~~.:;.' ',\ , .,," (' " ,., I I I I I I l ~ " , ~f :j' '.! ". co , ~__O . ..','. '';' . , : '. . ~,. . . .,' ~t ~ .~ ' . ,"' ,'; . '.\'~ ,.... "~I , " , ': " . ", '~'.'t-,~ : - , ....". ;"".. #5q page 1 Horow/ (#5q) Moved by Nov, seconded by Baker. Discussion. This is the part of Iowa city that is being de-annexed, Seceded to Coralville. It is seceded isn't it. No. Severed. Atkins/ It's July, you know. The civil War and all that. Horow/ Thank you. civil War. I knew I was getting in on the Confederacy. Would somebody like to- Throg/ Do we need a new mayor. Horow/ Never mind. Roll call- (ayes) Getting rid of that portion of my district gets to me. 'r' . M '.1 , .1 " '.' ~. ~ , , 1 j , i i . i ," . , " ,", , , I A,' .\;;) "1 . .:'.! '.'1 ';' , , . ':! n ~ .,"--, ' . ,,', , '. l',,'~',w"'." ....,.............,',,1","'.,'.'......,..."..'1'.." ":":.'1' "....:..,,'i,: '.' ',',"" "-',;:;:'.',.':':..,\""",.,""'....,',' "," "0'\ ."..',.....:.::..::::'.,~:':,-:--'Oi:.;;.-":;;.~Jl'>'.l:)~\~;..<,__i:'ij~:',:,.>,::"'.,,-,,.,:, ' '. ' " ,:.~ ..~.. .,~:~:::'..,",i.."Jl'." /\:: . :~J- .' ., ;. , ~~. r ,( (-', \ ~ , " i I , I ! , i I ~~ : !'. I' \ l ~j , II f~"'~' ',~,',;; 1,1" f~f~,. L_. (--0 ,'i ... . "t' .W.~ .. , ..... . " ..,: ,. ~',~" '.. ..;. :,. :,., - ':..;, :. .:~ '.':::,: , ,:,~ : .~ ' .\.: '. . #5r page 1 Horow/ (#5r) Moved by Nov, seconded by Kubby. Discussion. This evening at the informal it has been suggested that not only we send a strongly worded letter but that the mayor attend the Board of supervisor meeting about this situation and we certainly are agreeable to doing that. Anything else that council wishes to say. Baker/ Did we say to attend the meeting or whatever you think is most appropriate. Horow/ Attend the meeting and- Nov/ Well, we said a phone call. A personal contact if you couldn't attend the meeting. Horow/ I am not gainfully employed during the day. I can attend the meeting. Throg/ Sue, I guess I would like to reiterate or emphasize I think that this is really a bad idea. I mean the proposed development is a really bad idea. The entryways to our city are important. They help give the city a distinctly urban rural character and if we and the county jointly somehow begin making every entryway into a dense cluttered commercial activity then you will no longer know you are living in Iowa city or anywhere else. So- Baker/ I absolutely agree with Jim and that feeling has got to be expressed very strongly and I think when we said we were sending this letter we have to revise the letter. So what do we have to do here. Karr/ I am just wondering. Do you want the letter revised. You talked about that at work session. Horow/ We were talking about revising the letter. Karr/ Okay. So you want to note that. Nov/ The basic motion still stands that we deny this. Horow/ This is a consideration. Do we need a roll call-Just a motion. All right. Moved and seconded. All those in favor signify by saying aye (ayes). Mr. Thornberry did not have-you didn't have a chance to discuss the Dean Oakes issue. Would you care to address that. We have already passed it. Okay. Would you like to address this on this issue. Dean Thornberry/ (Re: 5p) I live on Oakes Drive which is close to Quincent and I was wondering on this Dean Oakes, Fourth Addition, and I asked Tom about it and he didn't think that the road was going to be extended. But Quincent comes off of _ RR."_' ~'"" --, '.'._.~,.o,",:):. \....1 -~ ~. . 1 , I ,I I I. I o I l f, i '! , '~J15 ,I d. '.t,;' . ~,-"_..,,,. , ; '-"j - -. --,~ --' .- ~,..<."" '. - . i I .~ " , i "1 I I i ,', ) , i 1 I 1 , , .~ 'C;i ~\ \\ .~ ,':.;.r", I'; , I ' I !\ I ! I i Il ~ "."-' I , , -- C'- '. 0 " - . ..., ' .', . ','-0-' " , '."'~~_~,~i, . "'~' '., '" . '... '..' I ',' , . , ,'-; . "~-_: . . ' .i'; <,;::.; ,~',; ~:.:.i~ ';'~:': .~~ ;':.-'L\i:':~~!..',c:,:_-:.' ~';.;.;; :',~:..l'.: . #5r page 2 Oakes Drive and deadends. WIll the approval of the final plat of Fourth Addition Oakes Drive necessitate Quincent extending and entering into the street of Old Dubuque Road. It will still be a dead-end street. Gentry/ This is the final plat. Thornberry/ Yeah, I mean with that plat the road won't go through the dairy and- Gentry/ Correct. Thornberry/ Quincent will still be a dead-end street, is that right. Gentry/ It will stop as it is noted on the plat. Horow/ So the answer is yes. Thornberry/ Thank you. - :ci j-'''''''.''.'''.'''.'''..'..n~ ,,,,',;;:0,,.,,:;. ,,'~;!\,!::t,"'~':",\'" ,,' ,".." .','v """',";" " ;" , .: " ~. . , " ;-' , I , : I: , ' ""I , I I 1 ! , I " " ID, " :J..! I I, ... " 1"""';; , ::c;;Cr~; ',.,' rf,:i ,r",v _.,W,'it " .' .'" " ,,,",; ~.',,,,.,,, ,.. " , j<i.:.Jf.l;:U1 ",-.. 1 ,S' eJ ,\ \ ~ " , , , , I I " I l I I '~ .' , '~'I' ~:~'; 't t' , ~\ i "ii' ',~,' rJ ,'! l' ~, -~ :co "-j ... . . ~ t :,\ I. , , , " . , '. , 'i'. ,",'.~"" #6 page 1 Horow/ (#6) Declare the p.h. open. Daryl Woodson/ 658 South Lucas. I own the Sanctuary Restaurant and all of us in the neighborhood are finally happy to see this project coming through. We have a little question, some of us, about the timing of the construction project. Several of the comments made by some of the other business people were well of course, it is fall, school is starting, they will tear everything up. It is going to be disruptive anytime it happens. And some of the business people are of the attitude, fine, let's just get it over with. It is going to have a pretty hefty impact on us. We have no additional parking. All of our parking is on the street or on public property. We have no lot. The last time we had anything close to this and in terms of the closing of Maiden Lane was when they built Blackhawk Apartments. We experienced about a 25% drop in business in that period. It was about a week, five days. That is going to be really substantial at this time of the year. I think it might be moot. Rick Fosse mentioned it may be too far along to re-time this. But I am just really concerned that A- it is going to have a big impact on us and B-that there wasn't any consultation with any of the property owners in the neighborhood about the timing of the construction. There has been a lot of consultation since 1988 about the planning of the project. When it finally comes down to construction there was no effort to contact us and see if the timing would impact us and when the best time might be and that kind of bothers me. Horow/ I would like to have my own reaction of this confirmed by staff. I suspect that a lot of this has to do with our catch up from last summer's flooding and that it is beyond the control of staff in terms of the timing. Mr. Fosse, do you have any comment about that. Kubby/ And please comment about why the-we can't approve things pending in a certain date in the future it actually happened. Fosse/ Okay. I will try to take those in order. In answer to the first question why we didn't talk to the property owners about the timing is because the answer was obvious. We know that summer is the best and we tried our best to schedule the project for that but as you have indicated we are playing catch up and we are hitting our high priority sewer projects first this year. We have some options available to us for the timing on this. There has been some indications from the property owners on the south part of this project that they really would like to see this go this year. That is the feel we are getting from them. One of the options and we need to talk with our legal counsel in the morning on this is to bid this and bid is phased so that we construct the south portion this fall and construct the north portion next summer. How -"~ ""<l - ,0.,')",',,'.'. . ~" . , ,':" 1 :., ,- ~. . , '. I:l~' 1~ ~ ~ ':~J fiT g , ft) , ~I I,j ~5 ,10, " , t.~,tl' ,...' '.;; l- I ,~ :~ ;1 !'~ C,,~',O, -", . , , '... . , ,',~t ~ Ii . , " , , ,~. ~ .~.., . . :.. ...1 'h~::'.','" .,~;:'~,." ~-.. , ',,' ... #6 page 2 that will impact the price I am not sure. There is a cement shortage going on right now. The powder constituent of the concrete, that is expected to go on for about three years. We don't know what that is going to do to prices in the coming years. And they will have to take a guess on what that is going to do. We are bidding something this year for construction next summer. But that is a possibility. The other possibility is postponing the entire project until next year where we would cease the assessment project tonight, deferring it all until a date certain next spring and then we can pick up from where we left off at that point. If I have described that correctly, Linda. Does that sound- We had talked with Ken Heney about it a little bit. That is one of the options. And then the last option is just to do it all this year. Kubby/ You now I am really hesitant to say I feel we should do one thing or another because we don't have any information except from one property and you now when you say you have a feel that they want us to do the south from the southerly property owners. We have a feel that they want us to do a certain thing. Our feelings might be wrong. Horow/ A p.h. Would you care to address this, either one of you. Fosse/ Marsha Henderson has talked to the property owners directly. And she is here tonight and she would be able to give you some insight. KUbby/ I would like to get a sense about the timing. Nov/ Rick, when we are talking about timing, give us an idea of the total time needed for construction. Fosse/ Well, this would be bid for later this month, end of July and we would look at construction going to near the end of October or into November depending on the weather, that we have. Nov/ It is around three months. August, September, October. Fosse/ Uh-huh because we have go the storm sewer component and now the sanitary sewer component on the south side and as well as the paving. Horow/ Thank you. We are still in p.h. Does anyone else who wish to address us on this. John Rummelhart/ Yes. Good evening. Me and my siblings own the Blackhawk Apartment Building which in relationship to this proposed resolution is about a quarter of the entire assessment down there. A large impact on us and my concern ........ - ~ dIV .,0,,:]':,.:';' . '. ,,".-C-;", r ~ " " ..":'.:.. r(' ! . h A \;;J ! .j ~:) I I[j _,_r._..'<.. ' 'l~nlft'~'l i J \ 1 itJr:' , , I I' i , i I . I i I~ , ' \ I , ( ,\..1 J :'i~ ;~: ' t&r I. L ("- 0 . , , ... . .,,' 'I ',r.': ~, \ ". . , ~.::' . #6 page 3 isn't so much to do , forgive me if this isn't quite the time to be bring this up by wanting to get to it as early on as possible, the concern to me is the cost. I know costs just keep going up but I've got a lot of information that goes back to '89 and 1990. Back then from what was generated by city staff I am assuming our portion of this entire assessment project was going to be just under-approximately now, under $30,000. A lot of money. No problem. Let's do it. Let's go for it. Let's clean this place up. Let's get the dust out of there. We have got apartment people that Daryl needs-it is a positive for everybody in the area. I don't have a problem with that nor a question. Somewhere, I don't have the exact timing, sometime after that we got talking about the meter revenues sometime after February 1990. By today's projected parking revenue amount we would only be looking at about $27,000. Hey, this is between '90 and now. Let's go for it. Let's do it. Let the city put lights on our building if they need it for period lighting. We are open to that. We are trying to coordinate having-doing some planting all along that our 320 feet. Get some more green space outside of the trees that are designed into the project. Today, '94, I don't want to say all of a sudden but in the latest round we are looking at approximately, again, about $61,000 on our portion of the assessment. You get the point. It starts getting pretty tough and that is one concern for us. I don't know how we started out or where we started out and we end up where we are at today. It impacts us more than anybody and that is fine. Starts to get a little bit tough to swallow with those kind of numbers. A couple of other questions that I have in reference to this project is, I am not certain or not, if the sidewalk assessments are figured into this paving assessment. At this point I am assuming probably not but I don't know. That is one question. Another question-I mean somebody from staff can get back to me sometime. The-if this gets pushed through and we are talking these amounts of money nobody still as of yet given me the specific interest rate on the outstanding balance of these assessments. I don't know if it is 12%. If that is the highest rate that can be allowed by state law. If that is what you are charging. Or if it is 5 or you know-I don't know what the rate is. I would like to find out what that is going to be and what that is going to be over ten years. If that is changing. Or if it going to be set in stone once we get locked into the project. Early on in some of my first correspondence it was calculated at least the way I read the project financing the city to finance-this goes back to '90. The city was going to finance preparation of project plans, specifications including survey, engineering and inspection, special assessment schedule preparation. To the best of my knowledge today that has been thrown out the window and I think from the current preliminary project costs I believe those are being borne on the property owner's shoulders. There again, we are going from numbers and I don't want to say ~' iii' :~I L t' f CD I 1'/ ''1.i I, t I.l ~ : ::, ,,]:, I 10, 0 'IS , ,~ " ~~~'!, ,...----." , 'I \ , I, : . i I : I : I I j I I ~~ ! [I' ; \ i J ,,( \ ..::;;/ il'~'I''- 'i . :,;i'M~," :'ll\!(i,., L_~, ~C'o " j'i ,"~t:.\l" 'pl " . " ~ '-~ . '.,,' #6 page 4 promises but one direction to another. One other question, too. As far as the amount of property on either side of this project and who is affected and whose property increases the value or should be assessed. Is there a specific number of feet off of the center line of Maiden Lane that the assessment reaches out into. On Gilbert, we stopped on Gilbert street. On my side of the street we stopped I think we have-I don't what it is, 75-80 feet. We stopped there as far as the reach of property owners being assessed and I don't know if that is- Linda, maybe you know. Horow/ John, some of these questions that you are asking are very very specific. I wonder if you can get together with the staff and specifically ask them. Rummelhart/ Well, let's leave it at that. Like I say, maybe I am too early. But it seems like I keep getting behind here. I have been trying to keep up on this thing since '90 and here we are today and I am another $30,000 out of the pocket. Those are my- Horow/ Do you have a feeling, however, about the timing issue that has been raised. Rummelhart/ Nope. I mean anytime the engineering people can get it scheduled. I now what they are up against so I don't care if it is in dead winter. Get in there. Horow/ Thank you, John. Gentry/ I will call you and we will talk about your questions. Horow/ Anyone else wish to address council. Grace Jochimsen/ My partner Janet Getz and I own the Antique Mall and I just like to address the issue of getting this completed. We have been going to meetings for years and we are on the south side and I guess we would just like it done. Hopefully this year. Kubby/ If it would be hurtful to one of your neighbors would you object to being done next- Jochimsen/ No, not at all. certainly not at all. But the costs just get greater and greater as John has shared with you and this has been in the planning for maybe eight years. Before we bought the business and we just-we have a parking lot that we would like to do something with and we haven't done anything with the parking lot because we don't know what the city is going to do and we would like to make our parking lot look nice and be safe. - .' "- -- 0)","','..,'<' .,." ,c.' .,"': ~ . '::; ~. . ,it ',\ " ~ t" , , [ 1.1 ? s' i 0/ .,. ' "., ", . ,j,'. ,~' .L...~'.l\I.<:.lI. , ""1 " . ~t: \', , " ".. .. '~' .' . " ~ " , . . ~... . . ." '--..". ~ . .' -:. . c ',. .. _;...: '~'M" ~ :_~~::~ ~.: . ' ':.....: ....J.:,. .~~':~~. ..: ~..'.':,-,~<\_:,<;., ...H...,........ #6 page 5 Kubby/ If we split the project up, do the increased costs get pin pointed to the half that it costs more or does it get spread evenly over everyone. I .l (- \ Fosse/ That is difficult to say. We could break the bid up so that you have a separate bid item for concrete paving this year vs. concrete paving next year. But I suspect that a good bidder would make this year's half more expensive so they get more of their money now instead of waiting until next year. There wouldn't be a good way to compare the costs of delay there. Kubby / They get added together and then distributed based upon whatever the criteria is, the sq footage. Fosse/ The way it is set up right now is the entire project is lumped together and then split up per front footage and in response to some of John's comments earlier. It is an expensive assessment project. It is different than many of the others we have done. This has got period lighting included, tree plantings, there are some ornamental sidewalk, and sidewalks are included in this assessment. Yes, they are. So, I won't argue with John that this is an expensive assessment project. And as we discussed last year the preliminary schedule of assessments has tried to be as high as we think it could possibly come in because state law does not allow us to assess more than this estimate. If it comes in lower that is good. If it comes in higher we eat the rest and I might also mention that the city will also be eating about $42,000 of the estimated project costs because for some of the properties the proposed assessment exceeds 25% of the value of the property. And when it does that we pick up any of that excess. And this project that totals to be about $42,000 couple with our input from the parking meter revenue we are estimating at about $45,000. Brings our total up to $87,000. f;'1 Kubby / And the laws don I t allow us to go ahead and pass these resolutions and to have, bidding but not have construction happen until later. Fosse/ I think and correct me here Linda if I goof up. We could bid it now and specify a start date of next year. It would be unusual to do so but it is my understanding that we can do that. :1 ! i , I it ~ Gentry/ You can't assess or you can't collect any of the assessments higher than the estimated regardless. Even if the contract doubled. Nov/ But if we have a firm bid and we accept a bid that says construction is starting May 1, 1995, how would that change the assessment. ~, " ',,' '\! ;: }"" )' .' ".1 T'"y, -=,,- 1;1',;:",",\",':\" \ c-~" ~ ~ 0 :i,. __w--..___. _ ~, o .',", .' ..,.'. I ~. ~ " "',.,i; '_'" " ~ G .; j , " '" . , ,'1" IS .ld. ,........;,:-.-'.1...,1 '... . .::.~t~\.p' '. :',': .." .r" I ~""i;"::':';: ~'"',,I. :'......, , ., '1'"':"\.:.' . ',1, " ~. . , . '~"f.., ~. . . ;~:.("'; = ,.~;.:.:..~;:.,:._,<:.:."jL.-. :.~_:::', ' #6 page 6 .,1 j Gentry/ It wouldn't. All I am saying is you can't collect more even though you get a higher bid. Fosse/ Linda is saying if for some reason prices come in very high because of that delay we eat that excess over what the estimate is today. Gentry / And Rick is right. I mean the assessment on John's property has already been reduced a sizable amount. Horow/ Is there any other questions or is there anyone else who wishes to address council on this issue. Kubby/ The assessment on John's property has doubled. Gentry/ No. The assessment on his property was reduced because of the no more than 25% CHANGE TAPE TO REEL 94-87 SIDE 2 "j i Kubby/ Would have been otherwise. It has still gone up from the original. Gentry/ It still doubled from when. But you are comparing apples and oranges between what we were dealing with in '89 which was in an entirely different ballgame. Horow/ I would like to close this p.h. If there is any discussion we can do this under the resolution which is next. \ , , I I Baker/ I just want clarification from Daryl about the best time for you is- Woodson/ Early summer or late spring, yeah. Baker/ For the three months that this project. So we are putting it off basically a year. Okay. Thank you. Horow / I close the p. h. Can we have our discussion under the resolution. Would this be appropriate. I i l ; ~:LJ .'.~ I.,",,::,.; lr ',- r~11 f{ 'f .' .'[~ , I. ',. ,":, ,7. : ",' ~' ',"_1'. . ;",q;;'!1);t';'i:,~::...t'::.,:",.",..:,,:.;,..,""',';; "I""'."'.'f"'i',' ....'. ) 5,;: ,0; .. . . . ';".,'.., "','. \.;.,'~',';' :': ..~. :C~O_~_-r '. ". " ,< ,~';;tli~i "t,.' ; ", , . ~r; \' ' , .. ,,' ' .' .. . ,', , ",,' , '..,.,;' . ':',:;',-:.': , --,,,'.,' ~., - .. . .; , '.: - . .... ',. - " ~ ..... #7 page 1 Horow/ (#7) Moved by Nov, seconded by Throg. Discussion. Nov/ We are so anxious to get this thing finally done. Rick, what real difference would it make if this were bid in phases. Fosse/ It is really difficult for me to say. I don't know that the impact of the cement shortage is going to have have. It may work to our advantage if contractors are very busy for the remainder of this year. It may work to our disadvantage if they are very concerned about what the price of cement would be next year. Got to balance those two things. Nov/ Is there any way to balance the parking needs. Is there any place else to allow parking for, Prentiss street or wherever, for the businesses that need it. Fosse/ I don't have a good solution for that. We can get his dumpster relocated. I think we can accommodate that. But as far as parking behind the business there is not much we can do in that regard. It will be difficult. " t ("'; Horow/ We couldn't let's say pay one of the property owners that has parking to use there parking lot in the evening. Fosse/ There is not much left down there after- Horow/ chung's parking lot is really what I am talking about. Fosse/ And Ben Chait owns a parking lot there and we are acquiring a good share of that for a construction easement during construction. They need a staging area to build the bridge from. , \ Lehman/ Rick, you say this is about a three month job. ~ : I · Ii 1 , Fosse/ Yes. Lehman/ Realistically we started at the first of May next year, you think going through May, June rainy period we could do it in three months. Fosse/ I think so, yes. Unless we had another summer like last summer. Let's hope not. , I~ , i ~ "~ I~; ~,," (", , L~ Nov/ In last summer the rainy period went all the way through August. You would need a forth month and a cushion on that. Horow/ council, there is a motion on the floor and this does not address the timing. But I am assuming that it is to begin this season, this current #7 resolution. Nov/ It doesn't have anything about timing in this resolution. - ,C~~~~_ - - =~:- ','; , 0,,;)' ',,-',::: ~' . , ,. f l, o : '! ~s ,ld: ','."".." " ^ (~l'i!."" . ",'\ ... . ?f\\"!. , '. ". .. , . '~"T . .' .' -'. ;'.p:, ,'.-'-..,..'. #7 page 2 Karr/ #7 just adopts the resolution of necessity to proceed with the assessment project unless you \~ould like to defer it totally which is on page 2 deferment. Fosse/ #8 is when you play with the construction dates. Karr/ The only thing here Rick is if council wishes to defer the whole project which is one of your scenarios. This would be the opportunity to defer it. Baker/#7 or #8. Karr/ #7 if it is deferred as a whole assessment project. #8 if you are considering any of the other options presented. Kubby/ If I understand things correctly, I would prefer to vote this in tonight but with either a staged or next year date on the bids because then that would lock in the numbers for the businesses. And because it is our choice to try to accommodate the differing needs and desires of the businesses down there and to have this thing moving along, if it costs us more because of that. Horow/ Where do we get that money. In our CIP, right. What would that do to us. Atkins/ Ask me that question again. Gentry/ Regardless of what the number is going to be, what you are going to collect is the same. ,( [ ,i~ (~ \. \ ~,;"f~ , ' I Kubby/ And we are saying what that difference is we make up. Gentry/ We wake up, definitely. Karr/ If you award a contract. If it is grossly over you don't have to award at all. Kubby/ Right. And that time. So that is when we can how much is that difference. is probably going to do nothing but be more next i 1'; Atkins/ We make up means the general tax payer. Just so you understand. , II If: ~ "'Ie :~': ' i::t ~"'! ~ . ", ~ . Nov/ And Rick did not seem to have anything definite to say about whether it would be more expensive to wait or more expensive to do it now. That seems to be up in the air. Atkins/ Sounds like a risk. Throg/ I would like to ask Daryl a question because I am a bit ~- ! 0 " ".. ----. -- -----_.~- ,1 -- )"i.,.,',""..',", . ,C, .~J'::' : :: '0 ,',' , . .. '.:~. ' ,\):::', .'. :. ~ ,'.~' '", ' ~. . ,-'.' ::.:. --.-. . . ""I"'" ,.-.,.' 15 .- .... ~I' , ~' ~ ' Q 'I,l" .. Id,' "'.'("'''..,>,'\, ,r,~~ ..~.. , .\ r-', , , ,\ \ ,~ r:r : i~ I I I , I I I , 1 i ~~, ! I ~ U ~,") \ '~- ') , " }~'" ""~' :. ~ (:. ,\ !;1tl ,(1---,'- 1\L 0 l I "' . . ~t: \' "'\ , " , ". ..{\ #7 page 3 confused about something. As a patron of the sanctuary, Daryl- Could I ask you a question. I am a little puzzled about the parking situation. I have always had the impression that a large number of sanctuary patrons park on Court street or else in the parking lot immediately north of Court. So I don't-maybe I am not paying attention. Of course the people park in back but what fraction of your patronage parks immediately behind the building. Woodson/ I don't really have an accurate number. We haven't stood outside and watched. Like I said, all we can do is go back when they were building Blackhawk and we experienced about a 25% drop at that point in time. This time of the year a 25% drop we would be looking at somewhere in the neighborhood of $30,000-40,000. Throg/ I guess, I mean it is your business and you would know it a lot better than I do. But I would be really surprised if that kind of affect happened. Woodson/ You know, it is hard to say. It really is. The increase in parking in the neighborhood since Blackhawk has been built because of the overnight parking by residents of that apartment building and some of the others in the neighborhood has really increased the parking load in the neighborhood. It is anybody's guess. It is just the best estimate that we could come up with. Kubby/ Maybe the thing to think about is phasing it so we could balance the risks. pigott/ I would like to see the project- Horow/ I would like to go at least with some-I really would, especially the southside. Get that done. Baker/ I am still confused about the risk of either a phased, a partial phase, or a delay of the whole thing. How that drives up our costs other than just costs going up in general over time, interest rates. Are you saying if we bid it now for a date in May that people will-bids will be artificially inflated. Fosse/ It is possible. What is going on in the ready mix industry right now, as I mentioned, there is a shortage of cement. And there are actually rationing it through the ready mix plants. Contractors don't know what it is going to be like next year or the year following. I am guessing it is going to last about three years until they get caught up on the supply. That is the big risk factor out there other than just regular inflation. I"''' - - - - ~ - )" ," ..0 " ',~.;"', .'- ~, , .' _\ -~ " ~. . I 'If.. ,I.;, ""J ;-I' I , i ,I " lJ. ~J , fi I D f I,! '. ,10, '. ' ,.....'../ ,\ .:1lWit~~I: ..': . I , ,...-;-..., ~\ \ \ " '(,,1- , ' ",,. " ~." I ... . "t' ~ " \\ !:, '.. , ,~' ..... , '~."t . .' "..i"c.~. ~:,; ......, ;:~, .~':,'..,:", .... "-.: ....:.-.-..-... #7 page 4 Baker/ My inclination is to do the project. Horow/ Yes, mine is too. Throg/ I would agree with Larry. I would say it appears as though we have a real good project and we ought to get on with it and build the darn thing and not run the risk of further delays. I don't know what next summer is going to bring. Pigott/ I don't agree. I think that given the possible risks that some of the businesses carry I would be willing to take a little bit of risk so that they maintain their business level. I am concerned given some prior experience with that. But also would like to see it gotten underway. If we could start on it and phase the project and maybe it wouldn't cost as much as starting the whole thing next year. So it does strike, it seems to me, a happy balance. Horow/ I think I would go for it personally. The whole thing right now because of chances (can't hear). Ernie, where are' you coming from. Lehman/ As such a I would like to see it phased I think it would be prudent to get it done as quickly as we possibly can. Nov/ I would go for at least getting part of it done. I think we have delayed and stalled much too long on this. If the bidders can be requested to bid it two ways. Can we ask them to say what would it cost you to do it and what would it cost you if you did it in two phases. Fosse/ We could do that. We could bid that as an alternate. It would take a little more time to piece it together but it is doable. Karr/ Rick, isn't it correct on the resolution of necessity we also need six votes. Fosse/ Three quarters. Karr/ six votes to proceed on the resolution of necessity. Only four votes for #8, the adopt the plans and specs, and amending that. Kubby/ But #7 doesn't have anything to do with timing, correct. Karr/ Not unless you wish to defer to a date specific the entire project. Kubby/ In terms of bidding it. Not what the date of the construction would be. o ....' - ..', , .' , . o'l, ',.i . ,\,",,::,,'Y",..,' .- '.', , ',",0" . '",', ~. . '., " ::'.;.':~ .":~;~'.'i.:.::'" r I , I I 1 , i, ''"r:'''':'' .. ?5f .....'.", 0.,:, y .,-,..,'.-.,:'1 ., " ,< .~~i::i. " l "~to "\\1./ . , ... . ',' ~ "Of: . ~ '..','" ~.. ,.._.' ". .:_;,,';..,,',,';; ,,~'h .-. -, ',' _...., -...:",,::_ ..'__ ~":" .. h_' 'c' .~ ,,' '..,' #7 page 5 Karr/ Correct. It has nothing to do with the date of construction. It has to do with the assessment project in total. Kubby/ I am interested in phasing. Horow/ I want to make sure. You are saying #7 needs six votes just to establish- Kubby/ I am certainly not going to vote no against a project because of the timing factor. And if there are four solid votes for doing it all now. You all are solid-Ernie, Sue, Jim and Larry. Lehman/ I like the suggestion that we get an alternate bid. If there is a significant difference, yeah, then I think we almost have to do it now. If there is not a significant difference I don't have a problem phasing it. But I think we need to know what we are talking about. Kubby/ Are any of these votes dependent have those options open. So we can stuff and still get this option. on dates so that we can vote yes on all of this Nov/ We are confused. clarify. Kubby/ We are asking for two options. I want to know if a yes vote on all of these things locks me into one option or another. Karr/ A yes vote as it is right now is your question. Horow/ On #7. Karr/ Locks you into an assessment project. Nov/ #7 says we will do an assessment project. It does not say when. Right. Kubbyj I want to be clear about the whole thing before we start voting on pieces of it so that I know what all of my votes- Gentry/ There have to be proposed deadlines in the specifications for the contract. Karr/ We aren't that far yet. We are adopting a resolution of necessity on a proposed assessment project on #7. Kubby/ She is answering my question. Gentry/ I know but why get the railroad going down the track if we are going to stop. Lehman/ If we can't get passed #7 the rest of it doesn't make any ~- ",:' 0 ')'''.'',:,'''','''''';,.,\ :'.;, ,'..' '\;::". "~'" . :'. .,'; . I'~:, ~ - 'r 0 , I .-;. ~. . ......,. - ',' ~ @ I, , " I IS '~. '10, . .'".,..'" .. " .n.l~j' , i ;'1 I I i I I 'I I ' , , , I I I " I I r" I II) ~,'" , r, 0:f~ Wli~ L_,..~: :IF" -" 0 .M,.,. " ;' l. ... '. ., . . :.~t I ,'j' , " " , .~. .',.J , .~.... . .......,.. :.~~...:;;~,~.::._. - "-,' . ,', i ,-....:;.\;..,,~ ,,,::;;~,;,_,~'-",}..~,., ,-'".. #7 page 6 difference. Throg/ We all want to build the project and that is #7. Lehman/ #7 is the assessment procedure. Kubby/ Because 30 seconds after we vote I am going to have the same question. Why not answer it right now. Throg/ Do you want to vote against the project. I don't get it, Karen. I don't understand. Kubby/ I am saying I want my question answered before I vote. Gentry/ I want to hear what is in the plans and specifications for the starting state. Kubby/ Because I might want to persuade someone to change their mind to go for a phased project which I haven't really done yet if the answer is that you are going to be locked into doing it on a certain date. And we don't have an option for looking at doing it either way. Fosse/ Right now the late start date is early August. Gentry/ So we would have to amend that. Fosse/ Right. What we do is when we get to #8 is- Gentry/ We would amend the date. Fosse/ We would approve the plans and specs subject to an amendment which you could recommend tonight. The alternate has some appeal because if the contractors are booked solid for the remainder of this year, forcing to this year, could drive the price up. Kubby/ Can we amend it so that it is flexible so that if we do get that phased project it is going to have two dates and not one date- Fosse/ Right. There are some complexities to work out but give us direction to bid it as an alternate and we will work those things out. KubbYI The vote that we have tonight does not have to have that worked out before we do that. Fosse/ No. All we need to know is is it your desire to get it done this year, next year or- Lehmani Rick, when the bids come back we have to accept the bids. ,'",0 ' ':;:',1 ':}"",'.:C,,',',''':'' "', .:"..,' ..', ,I',' ....' ,.-.. i P' . .!' f' ~ F,' ~ I.j " r " ',.15 ", " ~" ..,';",," ,,' 0' , . J, ----'.'--" :'1\."-.., ~'"" ';.1 - 't"").':' . ..\,. !<. ....',.:. , ,t'II' ',;: '.'~ . " '... , . ',' f" ',0. , " . "! "'~~.' " .,', ~, . . ", "-. .' "'''''-,,' t'-': #7 page 7 .'1 At that point we would accept the alternate if we wanted it, right. Fosse/ Right. So I mean that is down the trail. Horow/ Is everyone clear in #7. This is a resolution for necessity. We have got a motion on the floor. Any further discussion. Roll call- (yeses). Okay. ,! ".r ..~ i'i (.J;~ \ ~ ", ' , ~ ~~:"I,<.', ~j\ ~l 'l l~ .' ,. '", L: i :(,"o~ A' 0:' ! j , '" '-,,' . '.'.~" c- / .,.,. :,' .'.' ".~.', .' . .'.' ,_': ~,\ I;' ''-'. . ':'.:"""\ ' , . "~ ' >'..'::,.-',,'..,;..;"'" I , ,i,;': )'.......""",",".n ocr\;' ','"CO< ,- ."-1'...., '.."""'j""....' ''''I' ,.....,. ,~./-~:~:,':_O:"::'~,;'~}.':.;..':~'.,. ::(.i\~:}.:'~:.':.:.:,.'i:.:,", ."'>:~':: ,;',' ": ,".' ',' ",'" ,;' ,'-, '-':"-(::'~-' ",: "<::, ",O:,"~, \", ,'" ""~"".',"'",, " , ' I. 5"" " " .".. ,.r:'r"~":.."(':,,,:,,~,,';,:"":/'" '-., . :".~ ""('I",'~;,;\,;i",.....',_"'l , \. ~ ""::'::", .. :, /.,,'," , nmi;nJ':'< ',' ",." '.""~'~-"'I . i , ,y'-i', " , " ~'.'~i~~'! j :,.'1,,_.. " ... . '.'",' . - ..'" ...,':....,.. " .' . I ',,', . . -_._...~~-,_.:_:~'-._~;.~.~~.~~:.',..:.~~~.~.- ~.-.., - " ,1 . ,. . , ' . ". . _ .._ ,~ ..___._.:.__~~,_,.....;......~-;,-".1;~-:-<>_;,~", ',,, ,~,:';""; :::..:.r-:.;.:.i::.(.;':"'.,:::_<j:"'; : ~ ,; \...:: .:: : "-;.: .~ ',~.','..!' Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting July 5, 1994 Page 11 ITEM NO. 8 - PUBLIC HEARING ON PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS, FORM OF CONTRACT AND ESTIMATE OF COST FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE MAIDEN LANE PAVING & SANITARY SEWER ASSESSMENT PROJECT. Comment: See memo referenced above. Action: ...Ittl) F) ITEM NO. 9- 9lf - l.3c. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ADOPTING PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS, FORM OF CONTRACT AND ESTIMATE OF COST FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE MAID. EN LANE PAVING & SANITARY SEWER ASSESSMENT PROJECT. (' \ fJ r , , , i I L ~ " ~,ij!, .. " l'i , ((' .-, :, 0 " Comment: See memo referenced above. Aoll," , firr/ ;f,;;'~ i7 k w ' ~/c3 ITEM NO. 10 - CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THE GRADE OF CERTAIN SIDE- WALKS IN IOWA CITY, IOWA. (FIRST CONSIDERATION) Comment: The assessment procedure as set up by bond counsel requires grades to be established for the sidewalks contained in the Maiden Lane Paving & Sanitary Sewer Assessment Project. Action: /Gftt (/11 110 ITEM NO. 11 . PUBLIC HEARING RELATIVE T AN APPLICATION FOR TEN (10) UNITS OF PUBLIC HOUSING ACQUISITION. Comment: Paragraph 403A.28, State Code of Iowa requires this Public Hearing prior to undertaking this housing project. The Iowa City Housing Authority proposes to acquire and operate a project of ten (10) three-bed- room single-family dwelling units, pursuant to the United States Housing Act of 1937 as amended. The houses will be located within the corporate limits of Iowa City and must have an average cost of $87,900. Action: Y0 ~ aff~ - Vl""-'''~~''l)''''''''\'''''-",'-\''(''''''-''~'! ,,..,~,", '.... , .; ,;: :0':" \,;:':"\ \ ',',"; ',- ...,. """,~":;,,. ':?:" '..... .,". . .,., .. , ":..;' . .~'-, i ~. . ~" .' . " ' , I i I , A "" , ,,', " '.I"f /': '0' .!" " ., "'I,~',' ""'1,"'.'0.1;",, ," ~5:' JOy "-'''''''''"",,1'.'' . " ...'c....' '.';" l~, ...,'.,- " .,' , :,.,.'\ . . "\~"" ....\\\" ,','I .~. ~. .:;;,..."..'._"._..'-..:.'.';....u ;..,1.. ,.- , . I (~ ~ ~ I' ! r \ I ~}, J , Ifl lil\ ,I ~l L.. 'C"-;; "), , '''. :', . #8 page 1 Horow/ (#8) P.h. open. Gentry/ Now, if you want to make a change let's do it now. Yes, now. Horow/ And then that would be voted on in #9. Gentry/ Yes. NoV/ The way you are proposing it should be explained before we decide to change it or not. Fosse/ Actually we have a lot of options now. You can do it all of this year. We can do it all next year. Or we can build alternates. Those alternates being do the south part this year, north part next year. Or another alternate would be to do it all next year. Again, my feel for the property owners on the south section is they would like to see it get done this year. They have got some construction going on there. They might as well have this go on at the same time. And we can feel the property owners out on that even further although that can take some time. Kubby/ So, do we have to have any specific language right now to amend it so we can vote on it so we can have these options open to us once we see the bids. Gentry/ Well, you are approving plans and specs so I think they ought to be specific. Lehman/ Specifically we could ask for a bid for the entire project for this year, for the south side for this year and the other side for next spring or all for next year. Fosse/ If would want to explore that as two alternates we can do that. Lehman/ I would care for all for next year at all. Kubby/ Let's do the first two. Fosse/ Just all this year or south part this year and north part next year. Okay. Kubby / And in either case by voting for this it locks in the amount. Which ever bid we choose the real one-the primary and the alternate. Fosse/ You have already done that. Kubby/ By the last vote we locked in the amounts for the property. ~: ~=_.~- -_:'" )';':"'::' .' .::. ..: ,:, ",' ,,: ~::\" . , '. ..0,,,,. . ",I, . "'. -,... : ''-'''''''''.'' 1'):.'::'/.'.,:., ;::.:. , .. . . '/.~' .,'..;' 'j';.:'. . . o ! '! "f'""";,' r U ' is.''' ,0" , 0._...,".. . .'" " ~',1 , '0 ;,. -, ': '~"', '.Ii.-,,::.- ~. :,," , , .. " " ,i 'r-:o:" I., " ,&,\,j I" 1 \ \: ,:;;.;,,.;, I' I ~ i , i I I il ~. !I , , ":~,:>:, \1IIi', '., (',' ~i n' . ~r '~~: ~C' 0 " .... ,',-, . ' '~ "':"':";''':~~\,~'f:'~,:,'..._. ," .',/. ,,:' . , " ""'" '" . "-00 .... , .', , , ;, #8 page 2 Baker/ Yes, the assessment amount. '..' :'~. , .( ,~ ...., ". ~. . " .,', . ,,',,1', ."", ~;.,,'-,.., . I I Horow/ Okay, is there any further discussion about this. Declare the p.h. closed. - , -~ ':, " !.! I I, , , J"', ",",",'"""""""',"""" - .,'1. :, ,:f''-':''::'" O""~'">''' .": ':'i}r'~t,;,:.',L, ,,' " ""n', :,: ' " . .,', " 'j ,~ ..' " '~; i' '" - ,', ',!,'.. ' " " I . .:; \' ',' .'~" '. '~"'1(' ..,::/"~",,, :,' '_ ' ....,""",..,.'"..1'''','''''''','''''",,'1:''''',',1,,' """""." ';5",:, ,,0.' \ " _ ,J,:.., ",J, ''''! ~\"~'''_" ' , .: ,) l ~. " ,~ .: .J r- \ ~ I i , II ~ " t', :!> ", ". of: '" k. ,\(, 1 .', -., ,:"'- 'r:, ".. , , ',1;:'1 ,', ,',-' . "I' " "\\i' ,. "" . .',"" " , ... , , 1~' ':" . ", -"'I':, ",'.'i ~ . .,,'.;-......, #9 page 1 Horow/ (#9) Gentry/ You need to move to- Horow/ Moved by Pigott, seconded by Lehman. Ms Gentry, is there something wrong. Gentry/ No. Horow/ Any further discussion. Karr/ This is on the floor as it is. Pigott/ Can I move then that we amend it. Kubby/ You are the maker of the motion. Can you move to amend. I don't know. NoV/ Why don't you move to amend just so we are following- Kubby/ I would like to amend that we have two alternatives. One that we do the whole project this year. One that the south part be done this year and the north part next year. Horow/ Moved by Kubby, seconded by Throg as a friendly amendment. Okay. Any discussion. All those in favor signify by saying aye (ayes). Now we go back to the main motion. Consider the main motion as amended. Moved by Pigott, seconded by Lehman. Any further discussion. Roll call- Gentry/ Is there some confusion. You said- Karr/ You said you are amending it to include two proposals. One proposal is before you right now and that is bidding it all this year. So you are adding an alternate of the north and south, correct. Nov/ Yeah, the alternate is south this year and north next. Horow/ Oh, I see. Yes, that is right. The current proposal on the floor is for all this year. The amendment is for south this year and north next year. Anything else. Okay. Roll call- (yes) . Kubby/ Wasn't it easier when people didn't want to know what was going on. Horow/ Yes, as a matter of fact it was. . - -- , "" '.", - .,~j:lf:'~.::""." .".'.";::' ."'~"."" ":"",,, '.' · o ,,' "0',' , '., 'h.., '. "':'><',\/. ,': " ')," ~. . , ", .l.~;':'_-". ..~ r I " ' f;)\ "'" :..! 1,"',",' ',..'..1' ''',',1,' 2syO, , .' , . , . .".. ",... "; . ~. I '.. ~1 "" ,', " " \ i~ I , I I I I I ~ I '",' 'Ii'; ;Jj " I'j !~ (,,- 0 I, \'j ... . , "It' :~ W:. ' "', 1 .. ',' .'.." ~ 'N.." . :i'," ..'...... #10 page 1 Horow/ (#10) Moved by Throg, seconded by Kubby. I would appreciate your explaining this. this for now. Discussion. Rick, What are we doing Fosse/ Well, the design standards in code mix the elevations of the sidewalks as being a third of one inch above the curb and for this project we have got to vary that through here because all the buildings are built at different elevations and we have got to match the openings. And when we vary from that then we need to pass this. In revision of the code that is going to disappear. But we aren't there yet. We are close but we are not through that process so we have go to do this. Horow/ Thank you very much. Nov/ All right. So we are talking about a sidewalk that is slightly curvy. Gentry/ No. We are just talking about a datum elevation level that we are establishing differently. Horow/ But it is not going to go up here and down there in order to meet the accessibility requirements. Fosse/ No. It will be going up and down to match the buildings. It will be as subtle as we can make it. Horow/ Because we are using the bars there it will not be distressed by that. Nov/ I don't care about people using the bars. I am really asking about the ADA accessibility. This is the concern that I have and if we are going to redo the sidewalk and if we can redo it so that we don't have steps into the businesses I would like us to consider having it down that way. Gentry/ Is that the way it is designed. Fosse/ Chris. How close are we to matching the doors back there. Do we still have some steps to some of the properties. Chris Stephan is the- Chris stephani Has some steps down there that we had to put in. But I think all of the rest of them we will be able to match either with ramps or by varying sidewalk. I would have to look at plans but I think we have two instances. Horow/ This is the intent of council. So when you get back to the drawing board with this resolution passed that the sidewalk we meet the ADA requirement. StephanI Yes. __ on - ,,",0"]',',":,',":,' " ",",::.,; \:':, ,'::: :' ~. . ;:-:.:' r, A \:J 'i,.j ......, I' " -', is "I"""','. ' 0' \.:' . . ~. '. '"".-.,. : '," ';'~':?'~-~~.': (:~~~:':.'.\'~~' .' .\\:ml'm!," ,'i" ," . ;,::...';. , , " .J i 1 ~ , ; , -"") ~: ! 'r', ,"'I ""~'i .i i " ,;; " . i: ,'"j ,I ,'! i i , I I i ;~~ l,1 '0. '~ , , A.~ i , I A I I i I f ,[, d I ~I"":::": ". " (',r . , ~i l\1~,,\ [.., ',( " , , '..).::.,'.....:..:.. ;<: ~':~'.tt... . , --"'., ,.... c~'..' , '... ':'" , ,,'.... : ~. '-. . .... ". - , " .. '. I', " .t-' " . #10 page 2 Nov/ And why is there one place that it does not come in correctly. stephanI Because the rate in which you can vary ramps and sidewalks and the space that we have available just makes it almost impossible. We have some doorways that are almost as much as 2-3 feet different from one another that are only 20 feet apart. And we have got a sidewalk that is only 7-8 feet wide from the back of curb to this building. So given we have got doorways from there over to here that are 2-3 feet in different in elevation and I have got some real problems trying to figure out how to get from here to there and still meet the ADA requirements with regards to ramp slopes. Kubby/ And at Fitzpatricks there are some possibilities for the front door. ! stephani Yeah. And we tried to accommodate that as much as we could. Horow/ Any other questions. Kubby/ Will it become a problem for water collecting in the dips in the sidewalk. stephani That was the other thing. Trying to keep the paving slab low enough so the lowest doorway there will drain out. Some of those we got into there were garage door openings there. They are even lower and so we sat down and you know dropped the curb drop for the driveway and to try to accommodate that and keep that low enough so that it all drains away for the building. Horow/ Fascinating. I can hardly wait for the ribbon cutting on this one. Roll call- (yeses). if i '_,I .",1 " , , . .'-'" ,:'j ~"._.." "'C''''''"" ",,,,,''''',,. '1"..'''''',....,''''\'..,.., "....\ "f'''c,'I.' ,,!;',.;;;',,:,q(<,:i~,\;:'{';,;~ii,::"':'~;:, ."":"',.."'" "2sir",'cq::, o "", -,' -", ';';':""-:,,,:: '/"," ';..i"',.-:: "/ ,'."., :.. i"... ~"',~..: 't /. ~"" " '..i'\:-.,'", . ,',":;" ,- ',.:"::~-~\~l.r. . : "':~' .... '. ..-./". ... , ." .~. ',". '1" , . .,.'J. ........'" . ,', I I , , I.'; r '. ~ ',' , ,..:". .~.~.,;.,~,t"'':',-':'~-:;'''.'~'~'':'''''~''':' ~~..."u.;.,';.".' a....."u."",,,,-': ; . " ,":,..,,' ':::, " ,"J' ....._. __..~ .'"'"....."-.........._"....'_....AC...""~...._'.__ _~.._. .+_ , . . . . .. ~...c...____--............"'.....,"',...,_.:...:.;',~i...i:.. Agenda Iowa City City Council RegularCouncil Meeting July 5, 1994 Page 12 , ; ITEM NO. 12 - ANNOUNCEMENT OF VACANCIES. a. Previously announced vacancies. , . ! (11 Board of Appeals - One vacancy for a licensed electrician for a term ending December 31, 1995. (This is a new position estab- lished after the approval of the Electrical Code which abolishes the Board of Electrical Examiners and Appeals and moves the duties to the Board of Appeals.) ....'. (2) Design Review Committee: (a) Three-year term ending July 1, 1997. (Timothy Kresse was unable to accept the appointment.) (b) Unexpired term ending August 4, 1995. (Kim Merker re- signed.l '...; These appointments will be made at the July 19, 1994, meeting of the City Council. b. Current Vacancies. i , ,i (1) Committee on Community Needs - One vacancy for an unexpired term ending April 1, 1995. (Susan Feeney resigned.) This ap- pointment will be made at the August 30, 1994, meeting of the City Council. ITEM NO. 13 - CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION. .,.. L1 (""1 \ ~ ( f i I. .k/ ptaJ ITEM NO. 14. REPORT ON ITEMS FROM THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY. a. City Manager. , i i I I, , I I [r.: I \ , ~"J , ~~.,1 ,.\ :';'[,, _I ....0 ' b. City Attorney. ~~ ~ t-r/V (~:- 0 " ,- ),'''''''"'''''-'-- "..,....".-".','.,. :.,..".....:.:';':.:./.;:,::',;":,.0:.<,;.,:>.:,'.,. "';)/.:::-'':'''::".,..',-\,. '." ",,'" "'",, , .' . " , : ' . "''', ~ .' :;\.-,'. :. ~ ':- ..: .' ':" , ' , " ".:,,',; r i , 1 j I ,,' I I ..(.~, .. , >0""1"''':''',', ,IS i,:' 'I'd: . ,,) ;'""<~ ,';_. ':,~,<. .; c-'. .' . r P- I ! I , 1 I I l ~ \, ~ (C"' 0 .'., :". 1',,' , , " \"j ... . "t :',\\1 " . ~ -' '.. ,~, ......' ~ ,'",.. . .'.' ..-...... ".' ..0'''_-.'..".........,. .. .!:. ~'.'.' #13 page 1 Horow/ (#13) city council Information. Baker/ I am so glad you started with me because I may not make it until 10:30. It is five hours. I have a couple of quick things. First of all congratulations to steve for his performance at the Library dinner sunday night. I heard nothing but good things about your performance. I hope that they taped that for Cable Access Channel. Atkins/ I hope that they didn't. Baker/ Now, a couple of other things. And I am glad Karin is still here. I was hoping that Mr. Glasgow would still be here because one of my concerns right now is CN-l zone. something that Karin and I have talked about and I have talked about and I want to get a sense of council. We proposed some minor modifications in the CN-1 zone and I would like to propose another one that requires a one sentence insertion. And it concerns car washes in the CN-1 zone. They are currently prohibited as an auto oriented use and I know one particular businessman who operates in a CN-1 zone who would like to put in a-he has a gas station convenience store thing and he can put in a one stall car wash but he can't do it under the code right now in the CN-1 zone. And I thought to myself well as long as we don't have a six whatever they are called car washes, a car wash is a perfectly viable reasonable thing to have in the CN-1 zone. Kubby/ How do you word it to allow a couple of stalls but prohibit- where is your cut off. Nov/ Word it to have one. Baker/ Auto wash facilities not to exceed two stalls. Nov/ I would say one. Horow/ Like the gas station up at the top of Dodge street next to HyVee. Baker/ Yeah, just a one stall. Nov/ A lot of gas stations have only one. Baker/ That is fine. I would just like to be able to take my car up to- Pigott/ Oh, I see. Nov/ You want that one. Baker/ And it is a convenience store owned by Mr. Glasgow. I think ~_. ~~--.Q l"""""'''~:'''''''''''''''''' , .,:'::'0.; ,;',~ /,:; ,', '", ',' , , I P' . .\ ,'. ....':'....,' ,...'_..~_. _.-0, i I ! o 'J .! .., . ,,!:,:'!'')' '" ~5::rd) _,..-"., dr.'" ";',,. ~ , ' ,. " [, I i i , I I : i · k, i i"'~ I, , , ! I . ,~ ~ {C" O~ ., {, ....~f ~ \'t; , " ... " , ~, " , ~ ..... . ..1 '. ;,.~ -',', ", ";,-,-...'-".,," ,.;...,.,...:....--.. #13 page 2 it would help. And I think it is a reasonable amendment. A minor adjustment. A one sentence adjustment if people are interested. We just throw that in the hopper with the other stuff. Kubby/ I would be willing to look at it. Another way to accommodate cars in the neighborhood. Baker/ You are absolutely right. You could wash your bicycle in these things. Pigott/ Take a shower in them. Baker/ Get naked, get on your bicycle, go in. KUbby/ I don't think that would be allowed under any code. Horow/ I also don't think there were four votes for doing this. Are there four votes for the car wash. Pigott/ Are we voting right now. Horow/ No. If staff spends time on it. Baker/ Sure. A one stall car wash. Nov/ I don't care if we have a one stall car wash. Horow/ You have got four. Nov/ I would like to consider carefully what kind of drainage we have and how much. That would make a big difference. Well, the particular instance here may have a slope that is such that will not have-be able to do it there. If you have a car wash you have to have a whole different drainage system. Baker/ If possible in an environmental safe way. That is what I had in mind. Horow/ Anything else, Mr. Baker. Baker/ Yeah, this comes out of our meeting last week with the d.t. merchants. They pointed out something very interesting and I think especially to me who had never considered it. When we talk about the connection between Transit and Parking and trying to change the perception of parking problems d. t. Evidently the city has helped create that perception of a parking problem by our own advertisement for the bus. And I would like to call to your attention and maybe we can start some rethinking on our advertising for the buses. Not to exacerbate a perception problem and find a more positive way to advertise the bus, Steve. One of the ironies that came out - -- o ,,]: .',' .'- , ,.. . ~,' t:i I.! r } t. " "' .) let, ,-, : ~,;;;~i.:iI .,;~~ , \ ' C:'\ i,,~ l' , I I I" ! , I , I I 1 , , II;' I i' ~ , i i I \:.l")"", '~ ~ I " l~~~~' '< ~;l:' ,~~~, ,.~ ~~. { -',-':1 L___ {(- 0 . " , '::t:.\",. ... . '~' , ". . ,;'--',.. ..':,"" :.....,'",.:.. #13 page 3 of the first meeting. It was a good meeting and we are going to have at least two more very good discussions. That is it. pigott/ Just one thing. And perhaps I can steve or somebody look into this. Someone called me asking about an intersection at Dodge and Bowery Street. The left hand lane headed south on Dodge Street. A couple of people have actually said that there is a stop sign but there is no marker saying left turn must turn left or do not enter here. The person has mentioned- Atkins/ This is the one way configuration. Horow/ Yeah. Baker/ The one way stops right there. pigott/ And if there could be maybe some sort of sign indicating that the left lane must turn left or that they just can't go on there. And I don't know about the possibility of that. If you could look into that. Atkins/ I will have Jim look at it. pigott/ I would appreciate that. Horow/ How long it has been there without needing a sign. Pigott/ This person has said they have seen it a few instances. Baker/ I use to live exactly on that corner and it is a hellish corner. People don't know where they are going. Throg/ Well, Sue, I would like to bring up either one or two points. One is people often ask me how I like being on city council after having been doing this for seven months. And now that we have been sitting here for five hours I guess I want to reconsider but- But I honestly want to say that I find it to be really quite an extraordinarily interesting and challenging activity and it is a fair amount of work too. I want to also suggest that one of the things that happens is that you have the opportunity to attend a diverse array of events and activities and so on. So in the last few weeks since our last meeting-sounds like confession, doesn't it? Mayor forgive me. I have attended the following meetings: stonewall Day on the Pentacrest, the Arts Fair, ICARE Fund Raising Breakfast, Friday night concerts on the pedestrian mall which I count as a major activity, a meeting of the DTA, down to Fairfield with Karen to look at innovative building materials, attended an EA membership meeting, toured through the Foster Road area with Ernie Lehman and Bruce Glasgow, took part in the July 4th Parade in coralville and enjoyed dancing in the Jazz Festival. So, I don't know if I would have been --'. -~ .'..0']"..., ,', ;. ~. . r 'J to. ... .J r : .! " 1d" " f2,Jffi:l " r i' ! " , ~ fC-, , 0 \ .' . :. ' ,,~w.., , , ~ .., . ::':.' ::-,,;:~" ..': " ',-.': . #13 page 4 doing those things had I not been on the council. So if anybody is interested in running for city council those are things you might end up doing and it is a fascinating experience. I would urge you to consider doing it. Horow/ As well as needing to sit for five hours. Nov/ Nothing, I don't think I want to top that one. Kubby/ I have a large number of items. Some of them I warned you about so maybe I will start with them or one of them we already took care of so maybe I want to start with the Towncrest one. I sent you all a memo. And basically I was proposing that I felt like because of the negotiations that Eagles had with individual residents, even switching people among categories. There was some kind of promises made as to an amount that they were going to get and I definitely agree that we should make sure people are relocated and all those bills are paid and see how much was spent and if it is less money spent in relocation services then what category they were placed in through their negotiations with Eagles I think we owe them that balance. I want to know if- Throg/ If I understand you correctly, I would agree. That was a strong impression I had. There were certain promises made that came primarily out of Eagles letter and its commitments and that we ought to make sure those promises are upheld. Perhaps it is possible that I am misunderstanding you or misunderstanding the earlier agreements but I took it to mean that a certain amount of cash or cash equivalent would be provided for the relocation assistance that people need and we ought to live up to that. I think I am agreeing with you. Kubby/ I don't think that very many people will end up having a cash balance to them if there are four people who agree with me. I think most of the relocation costs are going to be at the amount or above. And so I don't think we are talking about a lot of money but that they are fulfilling some obligations that were either alluded to or understood by residents. Nov / I have already told Karen that I do not accept that basic premise. When I read this and thought about it carefully I think that this is a ceiling. There is an allowance up to X dollars. Not a floor in which we must provide those dollars. I think was an estimate and this was a way for Eagles to figure out that we have to allocate $150,000 to this cause and it was up to the city then to be sure that is was distributed accurately. Pigott/ That is not at all the distinction that I came away from in our discussion son councilor the discussions that residents - ")' 0" '. ~. . ,lj'/(, t(1 @ , ! \ }5 ltL ,,', , ' ,. ' , t., :I~i1' r ., [ .:\ c-'\ \ \ ~ i ( " , I ~ 1 I , I ; ~, I I ~ I, ~ l \~ !f J "',\~~'" 'it~ , '~ i,:;r,~': ~ I .t." , .- . ;. j, :, . .t'.\l:, , , .' . ~ -. . ..>.';;.:,',,::,", #13 page 5 had with the people that visited them from Eagle and there were distinctions. I understood dollar amounts were discussed and that people were left with distinct impressions that they were going to get a certain amount of money per size trailer, whether it was X amount feet wide or smaller. Whether they rented or whether they owned. And now-whether it is a is communication on our part or Eagles part. They are hearing something different and they are not real happy and if I were them I now that I would feel the same way that suddenly a governmental body which before a vote was making all of these assurances that if you had a trailer this way you would get a certain amount of money. I would certainly look at, according to them, our sudden change of plan. It is really abrogating an agreement. Hey, look, what is going on here folks. Baker/ Let me tell you what I saw as our understanding. That there was no ceiling in a sense that, you know, if we put aside $2500 for a category and it cost for some reason more for that person. We guaranteed them their costs would be covered. I don't think we guaranteed them a minimum amount in the sense that if it is $2500 and in this particular case it was $2000 and $500 shifts over into cash to them. I never had that impression. It was like always guaranteeing them that they did not lose money on the deal. And in deed, it may be that one of those people in the $4000 would cost us more, some cost us less but nobody loses money on the deal. Kubby/ But then why were people negotiating between categories- negotiating to be in a different category with Eagles and those categories had absolutely no meaning and that is the basis upon which people did not contact council and fight the rezoning as residents and at least Sue and Bruno, two people who voted for the rezoning, did state that part of their reason for voting for it is because residents felt comfortable with the negotiated relocation assistance. Which in their minds and my mind were these categories minimums. Baker/ In my mind they were the categories but they were designed to provide the cost of the relocation. Horow/ That is exactly right. Now, was there a reason that you didn't vote for this based on this allocation business. Kubby/ I voted against the rezoning for a whole bunch of reasons but I am talking about the people who voted for it. I remember you specifically saying that residents feel satisfied wi th the relocation assistance and that wasn't your sole reason but it was one reason people voted for it and I know Bruno spent a lot of time with people down there who said I feel okay about it. I spoke with one person who felt satisfactory being in the $4000 category because of the size and condition of the trailer. 'IF,' -- ''\ 0 .'-' .... )" o "I, ~ .'1~':-/'''' ..';','.;., , < ~. . _. , ,~ !,'t , .~ ?'S 10, , ' :~~i'i , ....1 ....-...... " r (:1 ',' , , 1 'i~:_"" ~k' . ~~,',;i ,'~!, " ':.' r.i' ~1~~, L.A~ '(-- 0 .,',,\ '.' . "1 .', ~\I., " . .'..' '... , ".:' , '~.,. , . ~. . ..,.,;!..... ..,CO', . ',"".' :'-'. ''',...\,,'..,' . '.. --'-""- "..............,. ;r #13 page 6 Nov/ I did ask steve Nasby to come up with a realistic estimate because remember I told you I thought your numbers were way off. Kubby/ Although my numbers have nothing to do with the point I am making. Nov/ I think these numbers are more realistic and- Franklin/ Well, if I could explain to you what this says and I think-we are administering the money, the CD Division is administering the money that came in from Eagles and we are putting with that federal funds and the amount of money that we are working with right now is $300,000. That is the total that we expect to work with unless you decide to allocate something out of the general fund. ~~hen we started out working on this it was our understanding was that the way we were to deal with this and what made sense was to allocate these resources according to need. The goal was to assist those folks in Towncrest to relocate and that we would reimburse them for their relocation costs. Obviously a lot of conversations went on between Eagles, Ed Murphy as facilitator of this for the residents of Towncrest. Where they were apparently misunderstandings about ow this was going to be done. If you look at this and you look at the dollar figures that were stated in Exhibit A of the conditional zoning agreement which I believe were put together to give Eagles an idea of what would be a reasonable contribution to this effort. The total that would be paid out would be $164,500 and that includes allocations to Live Skills to assist people in administration because it takes a lot of working with folks to get this all to happen. So that is considerably less than what we have projected we are going to spend on this project bringing in the federal money in addition to the Eagles funds. What Steve has put together is an estimate based on our experience with flood victims that needed either rehabilitation of units or relocation of units or relocation to some other living situation. And those estimates then reflect that we would probably spend more than what you have called the minimums for each of the households that are in Towncrest. However, we have taken the approach that if we can relocate someone for less than the amounts shown here. For instance someone is renting a unit and they wish to move to an apartment near by, their brother is going to help them and they want a months deposit and one months insurance. That is $600 and they is what they need to relocate and that is what we would reimburse them for. What is left over for this minimum would then go toward paying the difference on the more expensive relocation cases. So that we can distribute that money where it is most needed. That is the approach we have been taking. And we are still at the state of just starting to work with these people so we are still guessing on these - -" ),.".,; ,. .:, ',' o " (/S: ItL, ''';''r,r ^ i:',im~~ r'~-' ..\ ! 1-"\ " \1 41$> , ( \ I ' , . \ 'I" ~ I I , , , , I I . i , I i ~; l \~' J ~ l../ \~V .(' ~ll -.., ,( . " " , , ':r:\'1 , '. ... " .. . . .~' , 'M" . ,,", ... ." .'-" ..:;........-;.~".. ..;..'-"".,',,:. #13 page i estimates. That, with those estimates it comes out over $300,000 which means we are not going to have enough if our estimates are correct without going to the general fund. If we do minimums also, that is we do minimums and we do as much as is needed for each case the amount that comes out of the general fund may be more than the $45,000 that is listed here. Kubby/ And it could be $2000 more and it could be a lot more than that. Franklin/ It could be less, too, if our estimates are more generous than they need to be. There are a lot of unknowns at this point in time. Kubby/And I am really talking some sense about from my view of obligations to fulfill a promise that was either mistakenly understood by many of us both on council and even the city attorney had said and I don't have the date of where this came from our informal meeting minutes where Gentry explained "Gentry explained that persons will get a lump sum of the relocation assistance fund and apply it to wherever their new location is and if there is any left over they can pay the back rent. II So there were a lot of people with many different understandings about that. And because of that I think we have some kind of moral obligation for that. Franklin/ Does the council large that the maximum that you are going to spend on this project is $300,000. pigott/ I didn't know that there was this maximum. Franklin/ There was a maximum. DO you agree that there is a maximum. Lehmani I remember the night we voted on this very distinctly that Eagle was committing so much money and the council said that we will do whatever it takes to see that these folks wi.ll get relocated and this is terribly terribly important to us. But I think I didn't hear what you heard. I heard we were going to relocate them all and do whatever we have to do. I never I guess, assumed that if we could move them for $2000 and we give them $1000 in cash. I never heard that. Maybe, you did obviously. But we did say that we would take care of these folks. So I mean if it is $300 or $330-340 or whatever. I think this council really did make a commitment. Kubby/ Right. I don't think there is any disagreement about that point. It is just about-I believe there is only going to be a couple of cases where my point is going to really come alive. So I guess the easiest thing at this point. I don't think we have to banter back and fourth about this. Are there four people who agree with me. If not and yes we will go forward ~_.~_____.___ _."0/--- y,""',' , '. .' ..' , "0, .' , , '.. ',,', /'- -'.. -,;-' ""'>';' ,\ .', 'I:" \ ~. . . .-' I I ! ,~ '!'l' IS ,10 ,......,1., ~i~:~:>' ,~:~ 'I :,,, J,', '",;,,,"'::'- I r \ lj r::~ I i \" \,~ ,,} ~; Kf ili :co 'r . , ., r'\ ','.~t\ ' " '\'" ' ...... ' ~ , .. . " <l " -,,..;1 ~ '-.,.," . " ~. '-,';-: ,\i..~.:::,::~',".';':i" . #13 page 8 and if no we will for forward. I don't think we need to belabor this a long time. I thought my memo was fairly clear. People can say I agree with you or disagree. Horow/ I disagree. Nov/ I don't think you have enough to agree with you at this point. Kubby/ We had also gotten some correspondence from the Yeggy family asking for a specific request and I don't know that we need a lot of discussion about that. But I feel obligated when a citizen asks us for something specific and they had requested that we put any kind of city action against them on hold until council can investigate some of their claims. If we are not interested in doing that I feel an obligation to bring it forward. It was a request. Horow/ Linda, if you would like to help us. Gentry/ Yes, I assumed that once you received the request and I think in one of my memos I suggested that if you wanted us to change our strategies and not pursue the citations and the violations that HIS perceives and my own office perceives as contempt that you would let us know. Not having heard from you otherwise I have proceeded to prosecute and I assume your silence indicates that you wish me to continue to prosecute. Throg/ I guess I do have the impression that this will be an instance of continuing conflict. I don't se any reason to expect that it will abate. So that kind of implies that maybe mediation services or something else might be appropriate. Gentry/ Well, I have sent you a memo on mediation services. Kubby/ That is another item on my list. Throg/ I don't know if that would work. Gentry/ I don't know either. Throg/ he situation is not going to go away. Gentry/ Well it moves from one place to the other. Now it is moving to prairie du Chien. So- CHANGE TAPE TO REEL 94-88 SIDE 1 Nov/The person who would go along with it. I just don't know. Kubby / They need to have agreeable parties who are willing to really listen and understand each other. In some cases it will work and in some cases it won't. I would like us to n . ~--':::r ",~.'"", j"":""" I , " '-':'-,' '0', ":, ,',-". :. ,-' ;",.', '.,,' ""i", .. ., . . - "~' .,;. .: ,:'.' , . ~. 'I;", . .....c.; '_\;,'- .:....'I!, , T' ,5 I I 'f I I i I i ,\ ,I @ i.! , " " I", o "I'. ;','.",,' ,", '. ,\ i~ai11 ....... .l' (-'\ \ ',I \ i~ I' ' , i.1 I I i i : I I i I I f'~ UA ",~ \ri~ ~~{~ -. {( 0 \. i , "~h\I"1 ,;t , .. , ',' ~ '''... . ",;,'.- :.:':,'.' ":'::., '-'."- -, . ,..:....'. ...,,:."'0' .:.,:',--, ....".-.."",..,.-.::..-,-",'.-..., . ..'.,I.C,,',. #13 page 9 direct Linda to pursue mediation. Horow/ Well, we have by our silence. Kubby/ Have we. Gentry/ Mediation? KUbby/ No. Her memo on mediation. Horow/ You have just thrown me because you say that when mediation is used you need two parties who are willing- Kubby/ I am seguing into another issue because there doesn't seem like there is anyone here who wants to do what the Yeggy's have requested and I am not asking for mediation with the Yeggy's. I am talking about (can't hear). Throg/ If it is possible to pursue alternatives to further litigation that would resolve the situation satisfactorily to the city and to the Yeggy's. That would be- Baker/ It may be. Pigott/ So let us explore it and find out. Gentry/ We could explore it. Horow/ How much time will this take beyond what has already happened. Gentry / Not much. You mean in terms of the mediation inquiry. Probably not much but there will be likely ongoing tussles. Kubby/ When we talk about mediation I guess in some ways I see it as part of our trend towards trying to get people involved on the front end of things. For example, when we are going to do some kind of street widening or some major change in the neighborhood. It may not be because it is preventive lawyering per se but that it is preventive hassle for later and actually cost us less money and less time by involving people on the front end. So when I hear mediation I hear it not only as preventive lawyering but as neighborhood services as well or any kind of community conflict or think that something that is a potential conflict that we could then turn that into an opportunity to have lots of dialogue on the front end. So, I would like us to direct Linda to in terms of the preventi ve lawyering part of mediation services to investigate this more. Make sure that we have some contacts. I don't think that it is appropriate for attorneys in our office to be the mediator because that does not work. You need a third party, an independent third party. But to start gathering a -__." ,. ", ",--_' . 0 ,;'.]\\\i ".'...."-' . " ~. . , ' " i .f , ! ,;r.. ..... ~J ~d, '" ' ": '-, ~ -,\' ~.. "i , \,"j ... . , "t ' , .",,\\,' , ' , , ~,... ,," ~ -. . "'" , ..,',,' '.' "..~i,' '.,'" ~ '"_.,',, " I : f') I, I I I I f; I ll) ,'. :,~,-":",, lqi ~ ,;' , fit!" , ~'L~'~ lr---~ '~N #13 page 10 list of people, professionals, who can serve. Horow/ From that point of view I would go along. NoV/ Depends if you found some. Gentry/ Yes. It is viable- Kubby/ I even like the Washington county ordinance that says intra departmental conflicts will be attempted to be solved first through mediation before going to- Gentry/ That was interesting. Kubby/ We got a memo about a parking fine escalation system. Where I was suggesting that people get to identify which ticket their payment is for so they can prevent some escalation so they don't have the continuing problem if they only have so much money to give to the city for their parking. I mean first and foremost people should prevent themselves from getting tickets. But once they got them I really think people should be able to pin point where their money is going. staff disagrees although I am not sure that-they just say it is justifiable because we have to write off year old tickets. Well, their evidence shows that we have increased payments with the current system of escalation so I think that is evidence that the system is working as we intended to and I think with this adjustment we would continue to see good increase in payment and I would like to direct staff to allow people to pinpoint where their payment will go. Horow! What do you feel about this council. Baker! I am going to plead total confusion. pigott! Is there a logistical problem with it. Baker/ What was staff's objection. Horow/ Mr. Atkins, would you care to comment on this. Would you like me to ask somebody else. Atkins/ I am not real sure what to say. We changed the system and it appeared to be working favorably. I would suspect that certainly there would be some logistical problem. I don't know if they are insurmountable. Kubby! Someone could check their ticket number. Nov! I think that the staff memo is valid. I think people can delay and therefore have their ticket erased. But they would have the motivation to pay them promptly still. There still ,.- ., - '),,',.,..,',.,',:,;.;-' 0",' ';',;', .... ..:,",'.:, :: ~~ ~' . ";" ~'i(,' , ".", '1'...., ,. .25' """;i' 0, ,,),.,:,,', ~' ,. .j (- \ ~ , II ! I ~ ,j ~l:, ,lil 1";" ~$ ! ([", ,,'.,-,0, 'I.. ... " r'l ""'.' ,)t\\'t; . "I, " '... . ,~. ,',.' , ' '. .-'. " . #13 page 11 is that motivation. It may not be as strong for the few people that this affects. When I make a payment on a bill, I want to be able to say where that money goes. The payee, not the creditor. Nov / However, you are talking only about the people that are already have three unpaid tickets. Atkins/ These are violations, too. It is not like you have purchased a good or service where you might have some expression of judgement. I mean this is-you didn't consume a good. You broke a law and got caught and you are going to wait around for a year to make it go away. KUbby/ Well, the more we talk about that the more people know about that. Is anybody into this. I mean I am not going to waste people's time. There was a memo about disruptive Transit passengers and may be needing to address some laws. I just don't really understand that. I saw in the memo that there were a few instances where there was a problem. I guess I want to hear more about it at some point before something appears before us. Horow/ Did you call a staff member. Gentry/ Joe Fowler is the one that is having the difficulty. Atkins/ He was responding to the drivers. Gentry/ I think I attached his original memo to my opinion, did I not? Or did I. Perhaps I didn't. KUbby/ No. Some Des Moines- Gentry/ The memo that Joe sent me would have been a little more illuminating although it is a series of practical problems that he is having and it is frightening people. People are not wanting to ride the bus because of fear and I think that is kind of a serious matter. It was serious enough and I don't remember all of the particulars that I thought it was worth pursuing. You don't want passengers to be frightened from riding our buses. Nov/ Can you send us a copy in next week's packet. Gentry/ I will do that, yes. Horow/ Anything else. Kubby/ Yeah, I do have a couple more things. We got this memo about abatement of cottonwood trees and I was really glad for this interpretation of the state law that says that we have --- )' '0>>, ')" " " '..-" ': ,.."" .,,/'..';,'", I ~. ~ , ' ;,-:.~. .', f,tr: , ,I A \:lI I,; i \ /" ~ " "j":" CJ 5" ,( ~ ..lEI, """'."""',1..:<' ,\ ?.;:.li~1 ," l ,:'.\ (.-..,\ \ ! , , '\ \ I~ I , i ~l. I I'. . , I I, ~ ';j "~~,~,,, ~., ~ ','1\ r,'~,', ... l\i: ,::;'t'l' .'l'l:- -" -2C~_ ',' I . ~r, I .\.. -' . , ~' ~ -. ~. . ',' ~, .... ,. (' #13 page 12 the right to abate but ~/e are not mandated to abate when someone complains about a cottonwood tree and here is where I think mediation services could come in. Gentry/ Yes. I agree. Kubby/ That when there is a cottonwood in the neighborhood you have two weeks of cotton in the air. If someone has a special need because of that cottonwood that there can be some adjustments that a neighbor makes like spending some extra time cleaning out the swimming pool filter of the neighbor instead of cutting a 100 year old tree down. And if those kinds of accommodations can be made among neighbors instead of cutting down a large healthy old tree down. Because a lot of the cottonwoods in this community are older and majestic. I would hope that we could use those services in this specific type of thing. We got another letter from the Melrose Avenue Neighborhood Association asking for more explicit and in a different kind of response and I feel like we need to respond more explicitly. Baker/ The one from Melrose. Kubby/ Yes. We just got it tonight so I don't know- Baker/ This is in reference to a letter they got previously that we got copies of. I just don't remember the letters we sent to them previously that provoked this. Kubby/ They had requested two things from us and one of the things was that we-Well, what we did and what they asked, what they thought they asked for, were two different things and so they are clarifying what their requests are and it is in the new letter and one of them is to make sure that the people doing the environmental assessment agree that there will be some kind of decrease in the number of cars exiting and entering into Melrose Avenue curb cut. ; .! Baker / Marian, could you do me a favor. Whatever previous correspondence we sent Gertrude Champ or to that neighborhood association, could you get me another copy. Kubby/ What we sent to them was-we sent a letter to the environmental assessors saying please note the desire or please note this study from the University. And we sent a copy of that letter to the neighborhood. We didn I t respond to the neighborhood directly and that is another one of their points because when they request something they would like to be responded to directly and I can understand that. Atkins/ We did copy them a letter though. ",- -~:... -, .. < ) """", ...., I ~ti 0.',' 'is .. .. i':llIlia' ,...'-> '~"~'i.'_'__,-,...,''''-~ '<, , "7 ~ " '. ~ I): I; ., I; i! III , I ~ I j If?: , iln \ ~ - .;; "..v ,:,~,'_~,"','"""..,,i .~l.~ ,(I, '. ,~~ . !H' , ".: ,. L~,'; i(~ 0 ,r"'\' . -"~I " . ,':" ','?:,.\'i::,. ... '. ,~, ',....1 , '.'..... . #13 page 13 Kubby/ Right and they did receive that. But the second thing is something that I guess I want more discussion about. I am not sure if I agree with it but I think not knowing I agree with it is just because of status quo. That they are asking that they have some kind of input as to what the service level of Melrose Avenue is going to be and I don't know that we-We don't really say that this is the service level of a street. We have a street and it is in a category. It is a collector street, it is a arterial street, it is a residential street. But them we don't do anything else really. Cars just come and sometimes we change the streets because of the number of cars that come and use it but we don't really say we are going to do things so only 2000 cars use this street a day. Franklin/ What we do is when we do our modeling and do analysis of congestion and volume on the streets we use a level of service C and there is A, B, C, D, E, F and C is a moderate level of congestion and delay. Level service A is you are right through there. C tolerates a certain amount of congestion and a certain amount of delay in an intersection and so that is generally that is what we have used as the norm. You can decide to use a level of service F if you wish to which means severe congestion, a lot of delay. It is a policy decision on your parts to do that. Throg/ The point has to do with the width of the road, doesn't it. And at the same time I think they are also raising questions about how often during the day that level of service is-that deteriorated level of service is met. Franklin/ It has to do with an analysis of whether there is a problem or not. Kubby/ But the thing that the neighborhood association is asking for from us is that they can have some input as to what the level of service on that road and the quality of service. Franklin/ I think they gave that input to BRW. The consultants on this interviewed each of us and I say us because I was on it too, the task force or focus group or whatever we called ourselves that was part of putting together the RFB for the environmental assessment. Kubby/ Right but I think what they are talking about is something slightly different. And that was our answer last time that each entity in the task force will get interviewed by the environmental assessment. What the are asking for is some input into the policy issue of what level of service and quality of service that road will produce for the community and that- Franklin/ Well, I think generally as to what level of service you "'-'~-, ~~ "~ -~ . "'.: ~ ,,',',1. ,'.. "):' "'0, ':," ".,,' : 'i:-:' ; ....' ... ' '::.," ,':"~,'., '.::.:",' ~, ~. . if.; j " , ~ ,,-"',, '.."1'"'''''''' )S ..' I 0, ~~J.~~~' (: ~, (. ..,.\ ,..--:,~ ( \ \ \ ~ I ' . I , I , i , ; i i I . I W i I II ,~~l) .,1 '\;'~I:'.,," ", ;";'11:,. ,::I\~ I'"~l: , .l.t 'j -, (-- I, 0 " ~-_. " " i . ... . "t , .~ \'\'l.~ ',' "," , '.."'1 . ;.,.,:......:!.:O . I." ","C',', ....,. .. ...','",:; #13 page 14 as a council want to set as policy for all streets within Iowa City. As I say we now use this level of service C. If you wanted to use as a matter of policy say that we are going to tolerate a level of service D, E, or F you could do that if you wish to. Or A or B. Kubby / I am trying to make sure the council understands the distinction that the neighborhood is making and that was the reason for the second letter and if you want to accommodate that request or not. And if not, we need to specifically say no we are not going to accommodate it and I might agree with that. I am not sure. Horow/ Karen, I don't agree with this. I guess it is based on the fact that the input they have had in that scope of services to which everyone agreed. This gives me the feeling that they are now disagreeing with what they put not that scope of services. And that is very frustrating because we made them part of that process and now it looks to me like they don't want to accept the fact that they were made by that process. Kubby/ If the majority of people have those same feelings that is what a letter should say that we are not going to accommodate this because and to say that. I am just trying to make sure that the request is clear to people and then you can say yea or nay to the request and to respond directly to them. Horow/ I have answered and it seems to me that on more than one occasion we have said that. I don't think that-I will certainly say it once again. I don't think it wants to be heard. KUbby/ I think what they are looking for is a letter from council saying you will accommodate this or not. A letter to the association saying. I think they have asked for that and I think we should give it. Nov/ Did you get all of this information from this letter today or did you talk to somebody. Kubby/ I talked to Trudy about this. Nov/ Okay. Because this letter doesn't have all of that in it. Kubby/ That is why I am bringing it all up. I haven't gotten a chance to read this in the flurry of the meeting. I am not very good at reading details. So I am not sure what this says or not. I am going from my conversation with Trudy. Horow/ All right. What is the feeling of council. I am willing to write a letter back to them about this one way or another. ,u. ~--"- , ",' ,'" ,'.O~ <.)i" ~ ~' . r~~" ! ,1 )5,10" , " ",'i., ,,'-r' ,I' ~ ," ...-,1. .......,'.:,.:'."._,..,.. c.'-,' r C~~ \ ., \ r:fl ~ , I II i I W ~, ,,;I' , " i~~"'~' ,~, ~r. (~o - i~ j " . ' . . "~, . ::t ~\:'" ;' 'f ':'" ,', , ... " .'.' ',',,:i , ~..., . !' . '.-....,.,-. .,..;;'._:~~>.:;~..!; i._'.;.~, #13 page 15 Throg/ My feeling is I think we should respond differently. Quite honestly I am a bit tired and I don't know how I would want to respond. We have been here for five and half hours and I am just being straight forward. Horow/ Okay, well, anybody else. Nov/ I think we ought to go home and read this before we make a decision about how to respond. Kubby/ Okay, do you want to wait until next time. Pigott/ until next meeting. KUbby/ Okay. And I will probably call Trudy as the signature on the letter for the neighborhood just saying that we didn't get to this until 11:00 and got it the night of and to be fair we wanted to be able read this. Horow / Karen, council. else. I would prefer to contact her myself representing This is got to get under control. Okay. Anything KUbby/ We did have one last thing. We did have a request from the Neighborhood Association from Bluffwood with some specific requests. Throg/ I understand that that is already underway. That is being addressed by the P/Z Commission. Franklin/ We are looking at those items administratively to respond from staff to the neighborhood. It will also go to P/Z Commission on the 18th I think or something. Kubby/ So, will these specific points be addressed to the president through Karin. Franklin/ Yes. Kubby/ I have a few other things but I will let it go. Horow/ I only have one item and that is that our city manager has ordered deer reflectors for Dubuque Street. Kubby/ All right. Pigott/ Good job, city manager. Karr/ Susan, do you want to note the formal meetings so we can- Horow/ We do have some formal meetings coming up on Monday, July 11. We also have an executive session. Monday, July 18, ""'7"'"i/'""""1 ~. ),",""',..,...,"",..,',..,..,., , . - ,..,:;~:.-' ':~.. ,...;. \. .,,-" '. .,,-...., , '. . ~~',C>' ,}(:.;:" . ,.~'. :"::1'<' I>.4Wt't, ., . .~M'l T - '- ~. . 'C Q f .1 I \;: 5\ld:, .l,. ,.,.,j.,... " ", .. '. ~:':I . 'j.. '; . x'l ~~i. " . ,",~t: \' 'I: . ,"I, ,', , " '... . ".',', .:,'1 , '~"I' :., . ...'.'....'-',...,....-. . .._.0.......;: _(:,f:....:;-.:.~.i:;,',,:.:.:;,,/.;;.'::'i.l;.:<. ... . , I ,-' .:," ,:.:'};:"~."A ;:''-,-;" ;, #13 page 16 special formal meeting, executive session. Tuesday, July 19, special formal meeting , executive session. And Thursday, July 21, special formal meeting, executive session. This is done for expediency in terms of vacation. Throg/ Sue, can I elaborate very briefly on a few of those meetings. Very briefly. The July 11 meeting is about economic development policy. The July 21 meeting is about the water plant and the policy with regard to it and rates for water. And the August 31, did you mention the August 31. Horow/ No, I didn't. Throg/ On August 31, there will be another special working session about the northeast part of Iowa city and anybody who is interested in contributing to those discussions should either attend the meeting and just listen or else contact anyone of us in advance or else submit us something in writing. Horow/ These are work sessions and these are not input from the audience during our work sessions. We really need to hunker down. Thank you Jim, I appreciate that. KUbby/ I did have one other thing I really wanted to do tonight and that was get an update on the Cliff's Apartments and the soil erosion control because the weather seems this year to have been very good for doing something and it looks like nothing has been done. And I would like us to check into it because I am getting really mad about it. r '''~ r-' \ '\ i~ r~:.'}~ Gentry/ Ron Boose has been gone for two weeks. Is he back now. Atkins/ I am sorry. I didn't hear the question. Horow/ The Cliff Apartments. Gentry/ The Cliff Apartments. KUbby/ If we could check on that. I am ready to just $1000 a day. Do it. " Horow/ I am looking at Karen and seeing Randy Larson. I agree with you Karen. I really do. , i, I ~; ~ ~,'~;":l' ~q I L~ KUbby/ If we can do $1000 per day let's just do it. I am sick of waiting. Gentry/ I will check into it. Horow/ Great. Okay. That is it. ,tl:-,O,~~>"<'"""';"YJI' 1J..l.~lI"""~.Lr :. ,",,', " o ,',", .' J'-:;:"'''''\'' , " , ",.' ,."" . 'Lt :,,:,'j'.;''',' 'I"~ ':~',:::' ..... 1"""1'''''''" 15 i Q 'i ,j " 1.10" ,,"":u':,'. ~~'.',>~i\,:. ',<,:,i'\'j ,^ ~.':.,i'. .' .;'.:, " ;/. ...~. .. ,~ ;, #14 page 1 Horow/ (#14) city Attorney. I realize it is late but we really would appreciate your commenting on the Supreme Court Case. Gentry/ Yes, last week there was a decision by the united States Supreme Court concerning I believe it is Tierger, Oregon requirement of a women who wanted to develop a piece of property and the town required dedication set aside of a parkland and some of you may know that the city is under going preparation for ordinances which will require developers to dedicate or pay a fee in lieu of parkland. Our ordinance-we are going to do it the right way. Tierger, Oregon did not do it that way. They made no connection between the development that the woman proposed to do and the need for parkland that the city perceived. They just ~Ianted a park. That is not the way to do it and it is not the way our ordinance will proceed. As long as you have a connection between the development being put in place and the need for the parkland being created and so that you can show a relationship between those two, you can have an impact fee and a parkland dedication that will withstand constitutional challenge. I' I " " .J Kubby/ And I hope that the editorial board of the Press citizen hears this part of it because I thought that their editorializing about this did a great disservice to this ordinance that the community supports. ~', ~-" "j ! Gentry/ Even-my memo was public. So they should have- Kubby/ If they wanted to get information they could have called you. Baker/ We will be able to discuss it at the town meeting. Horow/ That reminds me. I forgot the town meeting business. I have sent a letter to Mr. Hogan and the bottom line is great minds run along the same tract. I can't imagine where he has been given the fact that we advertised in the Press citizen for the nine groups that we are dealing with to come up with a vision and work towards the year 2000. Mr. Hogan, we are on trac]<. We will wait for you to jump on board. , i r ') ! I l r ~ ;' ..' ~( I~" .:u ~, -,: {,C',-(;,' -', " - . .,- ":,..,,,..... ...,:"..,;'\./'~ j....""~'"''o'''..''''..,..:'\'''......''.'/'...'''r-..l'J''......''T''''''''''' 8" I', ,'.', .'>:';'ol.~~',,:o,';:~L,{(:';?,::":,"'" ."...'. ..':,," ," "")5 ..y;,....i [Jij. ""'0 .. ,'''' ", ,'; ",i:,''::,':''""!',,, ".., , '.:,' '<'\""''''''''''<'' , ~ I; ; " . ~"" ""/""""\"::'," ^....:.:.,; 'of ;",0 ~\,';I\';.',:, " ;' ~, ; ~. ',., ".' , .. ,....1 \~I' '... ",'1 " " ~,~. '-":'" ., .'.', .:.,! , '.'" .....' , .:., '..-,-. . ,_:;, ,; ~"'- .:_" :.,.:.;',::' :..;;,'1 j,], .~;":"', ...",-",.,~"..."~"...,.;;",~ a .,_~,' . ,'. "," ,:!..; , , ,- '. :.' . ; __._ _;.._. '''._.... ,",,,",,_\,10", i'"'''<:'1'r~<.~.:....:..d:i.',_: ~..' ~(':";'-l:l,: .1..,: .t',I., 'j:.:., ,...: -, .---..-..-."-.-.....:..-:.... Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting July 5, 1994 Page 13 ITEM NO. 15 - CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF IOWA CITY TO 9,,- 23;' ENTER INTO A JOINT PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT WITH THE IOWA DE- PARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION - AIR AND TRANSIT DIVISION FOR TRANSIT CAPITAL FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRA- TION UNDER SECTION 3 OF THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ACT, AS AMENDED. Comment: Iowa City Transit programmed for the replacement of three transit coaches in FY 94. The three-bus purchase is part of a statewide Federal Transit Administration (FT A) Section 3 grant application. The grant has been approved in Washington, and the State is awaiting the official grant agree- ment from FT A before they send out the Joint Participation Agreements. In anticipation of receiving the agreements, the City has already completed the bidding process for the three buses. The Gillig Corporation was the low bidder with a bid of $634,614 for the three buses. The City of Coralville was part of this joint bus purchase and will be replacing 2 buses. The Section 3 program is now an 83% federal, 17% local match program for bus purchas- es. Funding for the local share ($112,635) is being requested from the Iowa DOT Capital Match Loan Bank which is a no interest loan program. The City will repay the State in 3 equal payments in FY 96-98. This resolution will authorize the City to enter into a joint participation agreement with the Iowa DOT and a purchase agreement with the Gillig Corporation. 1~/ ,/?;fd Action: ~>>% ; l ITEM NO. 16. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE --3!:J. l3'-1 CITY CLERK TO ATTEST THE LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF . IOWA CITY AND DAVIS BUILDING PARTNERS FOR THE SUITE, FIRST FLOOR CENTER, DAVIS BUILDING, 322 E. WASHINGTON STREET, IOWA CITY, IOWA. >1 Comment: The two-year lease agreement with Davis Building Partners dated June 23, 1992, on the suite of offices utilized by the Assisted Housing Division is scheduled to terminate June 30, 1994. Subject resolution autho- rizes a lease for a period of two years with an increase in rent for the first year with the second year to be negotiated. This increase appears reasonable in that it has been two years since the last increase. The rate of $12.00 per square foot per year (2,245 sq. ft.) includes heat, water, taxes and insur- ance. All costs incurred will be borne by the Assisted Housing Program. Staff recommends approval of the resolution'. First year rent will be $27,150. I l ~ ~fI' .I ~Al.r fiF$ Action: , l~' (~'i il " /, " ",rr.... 0 '.~_." -:I~ _u -,'--: -" " 'l'~',:"::~:?~'.":\"" 0,"""'" "" ,," ~':~ 0 "'" :':i;"~~:,,;, }::~\".;'\">':'"., .., ".":'.."_ : ".,,' . ~. . . .. '. I '- , ". i ... . '\,.". . ! I' " 'Q" , ',I.f' ~'- .",,1' ,~ , . " '10';'. "-''''-:n'''-'';'''''! ..........,.......'; ,....."i.. ~', . '/ ;'.' ' " .' i'. , ~. {'.'.:., . ! " "., I '.: '..\~t~~'I'i,l, . : ; po :-',':. ",:'1, '.,~ .. ..':-'..,'; '." . '.'-" . \ " ,,' . , ",::......~;,:...:;"'.".......,.~__...,,.;..........._.~..'..~.,.o;:.;.."'" _ ,...,.""~~..:'.',.., -. ' ~ '; ~~.'~,,~.:..~~'..~~:~.:.~'~:i:~.,.~3~'2:.~'._,,~,~,-..:..~:"~~~..,: '_;1 ," .,', .'. ~;. ..._~r;~::.._..:2........';.;......li~......,,'.;.,~.s.'a~~..:.:..,._,~; :~.i\'.~ ~~i;~;:. ._~.:,::, !;, '~; , " , Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting July 5/ 1994 Page 14 ITEM NO. 17 - CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT AND AUTHORIZING 91 - 23S THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE MAIDEN LANE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE PROJECT. Comment: The bid opening for this project was held June 28/ 1994' and the following bids were received: Iowa Bridge & Culvert, Inc. Washington, Iowa $104/015.00 Peterson Contractors Reinbeck, Iowa $118/079.00 Cramer & Associates Des Moines, Iowa $129,177.00 Engineer's Estimate $90,519.00 I (i ..:>.:'! ("'1 \ \ id:f\ I, , I . , I ~ Public Works and Engineering recommend awarding this contract to Iowa Bridge & Culvert Inc. of Washington, Iowa. Funding for this project will be provided by road use taxes. 1~/ Ir 1~ ~= r~ ITEM NO. 18 - CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT AND AUT ORIZING 94~ 2..3" l:HE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROHRET ROAD RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, PHASE 1. Action: Comment: The bid opening for this project was held June 28, 1994 and the following bids were received: Metro Pavers, Inc. Iowa City, Iowa $423/285.20. Streb Construction Co., Inc. Iowa City, Iowa $430/179.50 ! , II i I I , ~~; J, ~ . 'j '~'1 1il " In:' , w " . '. !~: ,:' b Tschiggfrie Excavating Co. Dubuque, Iowa $535/342.90 $749/156.05 John W. Sammons Const. Co., Inc. Keolwk, Iowa Engineer's Estimate $520,000.00 Public Works and Engineering recommend awarding this contract to Metro Pavers, Inc. of Iowa City, Iowa. Funding for this project will be provided by 1994 General Obligation Bonds proceeds. f1~ /-1~lt..J Action: ~/zw % ,r i~ e ., -::~", ","7.. j"...,.,-,"''',',.,.....,',.,'''''''' .' ,,~'.,---. ',', , ,'" ' . "";:':":~.':: :::.-':,'~'.' "." ~> \...., "",0,,' .,' ",I"i ",/ .,,,',\\,,..,,, ' . . " " .:. -,.",~~' ,!:J'l'r '. ; .-:'I",;',.-~.-:.:-~;-'''"T.,l;:.'" . " - 'J' ....'1 , '- , , ~. ~ ,\"': , \ , ,I I I .':' " ' ~" ,f' ::' I , , ""'""1"""''''''''''''';'''"'''::,.'','(':,'', ' ""0" ,'; 5,: ~' ",'? .:,-;', ," ',,:. ",:,,' ,';:,,,~~.,,,, ,,/-~:',' ,... .....'~,.. ' . '~Ci::":.:',~ I:" , " f'.' " .' -:"'<"t'..., : ,.;:~"',\l>, , '. ~. ,. :... . , ','."'" ,', I ." I ",. '::";~ .", , -"." '-....:; .... ' ',.'; " , , . ...: _ ..~:,,~,..~.,~~..,.:;i:~~~:,j~~~_,.,.;.~,~;;....,.;;~~:"~_.. :: ~. .i, . '. \. ,~. " I Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting July 5, 1994 Page 15 . ....~--~"~-_..._..._-"".~-_..~--'--~--'-'.r. · I I ,\ ITEM NO. 19 - CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF AN AGREEMENT q If - 231 WITH JOHNSON COUNTY, IOWA FOR TEMPORARY USE OF PORTIONS OF MAIER AVENUE, A COUNTY ROAD, AS DETOUR DURING ROHRET ROAD RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, PHASE 1. '; . "'/ l , , I i , I Comment: This agreement establishes the terms and conditions for tempo- rary use of Maier Avenue, a Johnson County Road, as a detour route from the City limits line (approximately 1,000 feet south of Rohret Road) to State Highway No.1, being approximately 1.2 miles in length. This agreement is necessary since various segments of the City maintained portion of Rohret Road will be closed to facilitate Phase 1 construction. I , ' , Action: ~;~/ id?"~-i) ~% , I ", I' " ITEM NO. 20 - CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF AN AGREEMENT <1,-/ ~ 't~ '0 WITH THE KESSLER SUBDIVISION HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION FOR TEMPORARY USE OF PORTIONS OF KESSLER DRIVE AND ROHRET COURT, PRIVATE ROADS, AS DETOUR ROADWAYS DURING ROHRET ROAD RE- CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, PHASE 1. Comment: This agreement establishes the terms and conditions for tempo- rary use of Kessler Drive and Rohret Court, private roads, as detour roadways between Maier Avenue and Rohret Road. This agreement will eliminate approximately 5 miles from an alternate detour route. , , \("'i ,;..~:, .., 'J r'--" ! ; I ~ , , l' ITEM NO. 21 . _9<1-- 3(,,30 Action: fl~ / '1)?~".J h ifi/il -II~l CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING A CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR THE ~ CITY OF IOWA CITY, IOWA. (PASS AND ADOPT) Comment: In September of 1992, the City awarded contract to Sterling Codifiers, Inc. of Weiser, Idaho, to reformat the Iowa City Code of Ordinances. City staff has worked with Sterling on reviewing and updating the present Code, and recommends adoption of the proposed Code with minor amendments that are on file in City Clerk's office. A public hearing was held on the proposed Code on May 10, 1994, and no one appeared. Effective date of the proposed new Code of Ordinances is September 1, 1994. ,""" Action: l1fIJ / ~Q/u) ~L ~A-/ IJ tf /J) I 4ht2~ % (-" :. ,',,0 .''t.: _... ITEM NO. 22 - ADJOURNMENT. Ikbv//(~ /l15I'Pf' ~~ __'" ~, " "l'-"'",'~",'T"""'"'''''-''''''''''''' ,..,""""..'1"''''....,..,,'',...,;,',', ~ ,. ,",' """"","" .. ' ,,' ,,,',",:,, '",,' ',;':':'",,''''''' '\ ,", """ "'0': """"0..,, ,,"', , : " IS ,"" ' :'/ :Y'" ,,;' '~:'<"~'~.::;~." <<,~':';',::,:'>':::.';:':,. ,,'. ',.... :' ,~.',',~ <.>..,.... ,,,..,:, ,/j. .. ~,::_',:,:':'",l I,ll ~, ~~ ~~' ' to' ,',I, _-.J ,',." ..". '....,.. ~..,.~:.~. . ..'.......1' l\l'illli.!!I', ,'t".. ..',;"..'" , , .,~-:-i ~' , ,/ " " ..~, . I~ " '0" , ~ I ' , , I ,( " '~ " ,"'l..' '._. ., ,{'{: ,~: " , " ~ '-.'.~k': .",:: 1.\.1, ~ ':-:. ',.- :'. . ; '... . ......., .... " , , '.t' " , , t.., . ' , ' , , , " ;' ;;i,:<.:",~.<i.' '....;.:~; ;';:/ '':':'~.:..~:::..~'.~.:.;~L:.:~.:':';'~ :"'..'_:.-;.~:?,;.~,i:, .... . ,.. , .i. . . ~.. . "', :..:.:"':'~'..::;.,~~;.i;,~ ;,; :t,:,;:i ;.:'~ i,;' ~2,.....:.~:;.;.::,.~:;:,',L;;:.:'i0.,~~L;~.;:.::,~~;t'LL',:;lj;;~,~.:b::0,{i ;,:::;':'~:';~~;~;:t::~; ',L~ ~';:,;'J~'.: :;:-::.1.: ,,~,:.:; ::~:;:.: ; #20 page 1 Horow/ (#20) Moved by Nov, seconded by Throg. Discussion. Kubby! And trucks will not be allowed on this detour, correct. / Correct. Nov/ I think I have to do a small correction. We're talking about subdivision homeowners association, not the homemakers association. Horow/ It's getting late. Thank you very much. Roll call- (ayes) #21-- Rick Fosse/ Just a quick response on your question, Karen. We're going to work things out if we can for school buses to use that after school starts for the homeowners association. 0" "'/," , ,...., .- ...., ~.,..::'):,p;i:::1';((0r'.'.~.:'\--,....:.. "c-'.,'.." '. ,111 '.... ~ , , i I , . \ I.,j .. , T;s-"'.lEf' " ,~.' ,.:"....1l"..(2:.':__:/~:' ;.-. " I ,I ;', ."., .:\ . ,-",..,~",~L~~;.,.:':~:~I:~;' '!';~~:;;i::d:;''J'!;!~id:;hi:::i0.::,:.;~(,ti;i.ti~~,';:I''CJ#d:::.;Z':';~&i;\ij~;'DijiJ;:2~::;/;.Di'i~~';~~:':;.;~;:0J'~;'1~~~~/.,~:i/:'.:~{~~';:i'c ..':U;":{:~:'1~':;;~;:~~:;"~~~'j::~~i;~,~:':',~:2:~~ ';';"~';;.:I~\l;~\...,.,~;., ,,' . " '.. #21 page 1 --'.' Horow/ (#21) Moved by Pigott, seconded by Lehman. Discussion. Yes. I would like to thank both our city Clerk and city Attorney for persistence and patience above and beyond the call of duty. KUbby/ Bravo. Karr/ Thank you. , , i i i , ,~ i 'I ,1 , ! Gentry/ Our pleasure. Horow/ Roll call- (ayes) -"';'" " i I I , , , '" .1 ~~ .., ) --~,l , , , 'Ii " ~, C';' ",'~ "1"yr,-,"-:~-,'l.f, T-..,',,;.'...'.'.," " ' 0" ", ""''''''''T'''' :~ ':"" " ' ' " ". ,: ":- ',:'". ,:,:', "';,'j""";";:,,,, ~--_._._,----.~----- _:"""rr!~-,'!, . ",'.."~ Ii "---~" ""':':::';'0':',' . 1'< " ':" :.\,~' :':.";\:\\;" .- ~ \~I ",'. , .-" J'.~ ' , . . , ~.' , ; " ,.' ..,- "t;:,:;,:,~:)L: 1'~-'- ,..'....'..' \".."'...._".".."~'''....''^'''''''''''I..'"'.'''''_''~,.i ,. ,I"~ ,;:'! ::::,::~. ':ii1\?}"_.?\....,(.:.:,:- :"'>~,:, :,:, ",'- ",: ,>: " " ' '" ,.':~~:ft.;:,:)~;,i:,:'.,: ;:: 9\.';:::.- ''''I'' ,,',,'''' ~""., ", ,'- ", .. ,r.. J',I,,!:~i, . ;:.~~ ::1",;",'''<".1.:''::11:'-'\;,' '. ,'" ,;', .' :' ,-,,':;i;,..:-.~",.t';'~'I,I/":'I:' "'..-..:" ,,' l'Q!}ii~~{', '.' ';' "", " ....',.. . ,./1, ' I I '" ", .,.' " ,'::"~~t~.\..!.;,., . , ~. " '.. ... " , , ' - ""-".. ,', , ':" ~ , ' . . ~' '.',' .', . .." '..', .,,' .\'." ' "... \.....,;.;,> ;,'''~''''=''''''''''";'''''''''''-''''''':'''''~'>''''''''''''''---''-' " -<. "..,:.:.. ._"::, ._......_....~.__. _ ,I ","_c';'_':"''-_''_''-'':~''w_.l.,":::'.._._~~::::..,. ,. _____....., *,,--,.,..'.'.~, ,-:.~i A :,;'.'., ;_.~, City of Iowa City MEMORANDUM I l ..!o ('- \ f',A ,. I I i i~ IJ ~ '\t~"~ ~~; z!\ r,~ t fI ~ L :(", :::;;n', ' " 0 '~ , L DATE: July I, 1994 TO: City Council FROM: City Manager RE: Work Session Agenda and Meeting Schedule July 4. 1994 INDEPENDENCE DAY - CITY OFFICES CLOSED July 5. 1994 5:30 P.M. 5:30 P.M. 6:30 P.M. 6:45 P.M. Monday Tuesday - City Council Work Session - Council Chambers - Review zoning matters - Teg Drive/Aber Avenue Traffic Issues - Council agenda, Council time, Council committee reports 7:30 P.M. - Regular Council 'Meeting - Council Chambers July II. 1994 Monday 6:00 P.M. - Special Council Meeting - Council Chambers Executive Session (Land acquisition, pending litigation) 6:30 P.M. - City Council Work Session - Council Chambers Discuss economic development issues t:"I' \;J Monday - Special City Council Meeting - Council Chambers Executive Session (Performance evaluation) 6:30 P.M. - City Council Work Session - Council Chambers July 18. 1994 5:30 P.M. Tuesday - Special City Council Meeting - Council Chambers Executive Session (Performance evaluation) 7:30 P.M. - Regular City Council Meeting - Council Chambers July 19. 1994 6:00 P.M. .' Thursday Special City Council Meeting - Council Chambers Executive Session (Performance evaluation) 6:30 P.M. - City Council Work Session - Council Chambers Discuss water and northeast Iowa City planning issues July 21. 1994 5:15 P.M. PENDING LIST Appointments to the Board of Appeals and Design Review Committee, 7-19-94 Appointment to the Committee on Community Needs, B-30-94 , " .. -, , J J _ ~ ,', .",.,--V. ~ ,',' .~_~_~. " I;[j,- '....;,...\",,0.,','., ,- ,< )"',;7.'::'-':'.'."~'<" '., .",".""'''''''''......',..'..C:..' '.'" """0,, '\", ' )5 ': "'-';'" Jt',~:',;i' .,::>,::,;.":,_,: ",', ~.' ,