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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2007-04-02 Transcription April 2, 2007 April 2, 2007 Council: UISG: Staff: City Council Work Session Page 1 City Council Work Session 6:30 PM Bailey, Champion, Correia, Elliott, O'Donnell, Vanderhoef, Wilburn Baeth Atkins, Dilkes, Elias, Fosse, Franklin,Helling, Jordan, Karr, Knocke, Panos, Yapp TAPE: 07-29, Both (, Side I, problem tape not available) ITEM 14. Panos: Bailey: Panos: Bailey: Panos: Bailey: Panos: Bailey: CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITYCLERK TO ATTEST AN IOWA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FUNDING AGREEMENT FOR THE DUBUQUE STREET & CHURCH STREET INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT STP-U-3715 (632)--70-52. (DEFERRED FROM 3/20) (continued from problem tape) Traffic could continue on to Jefferson rather than cutting through back at Kimball and going up Gilbert Street or even cutting through at Brown or Ronalds to get around this intersection. You know, I, I agree that it makes it easier to make the left turn at Church Street. Right. But it also keeps the traffic flowing to the downtown and not having them bottlenecked at this intersection. Well, and potentially, you could keep the traffic flowing if you just improved the radius for the buses, because if you made - But, yes. I mean that's all- And that would, that would, and I understand. That would relieve the issue with the buses, but it doesn't relieve the issues of the left-turners that impede that through movement of traffic at the intersection now. I was, I was out here Friday afternoon going out of town and the traffic was backed up to Ronalds and to Brown. I mean, you know, so the left-turners that are turning down Church Street are, are causing an issue at this intersection. Right. About 15 minutes on the beginning and ending of the day. And part of the challenge as well is, you know, we're also accommodating. I mean, we've had this discussion at JCCOG. We're accommodating commuter traffic and I think comprehensively, and this is probably a JCCOG issue, we need to begin to take a look at how we're accommodating commuter traffic, doing commuter lots and doing some of the things that other communities tend to do to get people to the center of the city, that This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. ------_._-----~--_._-,-----~---_._~-------_._-----~-_._._---_.._---------,.~-_._---_..._---,-_._-,_.._-----''-'--'---'--- - -- ----..-....... April 2, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 2 everybody doesn't need to be in their personal vehicle. And that's something we need to talk with the University about, but, I mean, you could accommodate better flow of traffic by simply improving the turn radius of the bus is my point. And I don't, also, I don't think, I don't understand why we're having a tnrn lane on, south of Church Street and Dubuque Street. I don't see what that necessarily facilitates. Few people do turn left onto Church - Champion: Oh you're right. Bailey: To loop around Clinton. [t'sjust not a, you'll take the Davenport or the previous streets before you'll do that. It's not a common movement. Panos: And part of that, part of it is just for the balance of the intersection. Bailey: The match. Yeah. It just seems, seems gratuitous. Correia: One thing, one thing [ wondered about is that, I think sometimes what happens with, cause this has happened to me out, going, during that time when there's more traffic on Dubuque going towards downtown is that people who aren't familiar with the intersection, they end up in the left lane. Bailey: Yeah. Correia: They don't - they aren't ever planning to, they weren't planning to turn left, but they didn't realize that oh, I need to stay in the right lane. And I know at that Dubuque, that Dubuque and Jefferson, that used to be two lanes going forward, not a dedicated left turn lane. I don't know when it switched, but it switched at some point, maybe when- Vanderhoef: Where? Correia: That Dubuque and Jefferson. Bailey: Dubuque and Jefferson. Correia: That wasn't always a dedicated left turn lane. Bailey: Right. Correia: I don't know if it switched when we added the parking on that, when we lost parking at the middle ofIowa Avenue, we added parking on the right-hand side. So [don't, didn't know if we could just dedicate the current left lane and sign it so people know ifthey want to go straight they get in the right lane. Panos: And I think that was one of the options that Jeffhad pointed out in the memo that he sent, and I don't want to speak for Jeff, but I think that by doing that the level of service at the intersection just went so low that it, it wasn't, it wasn't serving the purpose- Correia: It was a dedicated arrow. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription ofthe Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 3 Panos: Of the arterial. Vanderhoef: Well, it's both. Panos: I, I think, the dedicated arrow I think goes along with that dedicated left turn lane. V anderhoef: Yeah. Champion: We don't have a dedicated arrow on Jefferson and we have a dedicated left turn lane. Bailey: Right, we do. And we need a dedicated arrow. Elliott: We definitely need a left turn lane for the southbound traffic and if you have a left turn lane on one side you really need to have it on the other side, or it creates all kinds of problems. Champion: Why? Elliott: People don't - if you've got this many lanes here and this many lanes, it's the way it used to be when you turned off of Riverside onto the dam bridge, and you turned from two lanes onto three lanes. Champion: The dam bridge? Bailey: The dam bridge? Which dam bridge? Champion: Which dam bridge? Elliott: The dam bridge. Bailey: Which dam bridge? Elliott: But anyway, you need that for uniformity. But we definitely need the turn lane for the southbound traffic at the north, on the north side of that interchange. Panos: And the counts that were done will agree to that fact. I mean, you have the conflict with the left turners, the southbound left turners, and the northbound traffic on Dubuque, which causes some of that delay. Elliott: Yeah. Vanderhoef: Ok. I'm still gonna go back to the question that I wanted to ask way back when. What is the width of Church Street right now, east of Dubuque? Panos: Church Street is 30 feet, 30 foot back to back, back curb to back curb. Vanderhoef: 30 feet wide. Panos: Right. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 City Council Wark Session Page 4 Vanderhoef: Ok. And what does it take to have the third turn lane over the 30 feet? Panos: Essentially, the previous plan showed an additional 2 1/2 feet on either side. Vanderhoef: Ok. That's, that's max. But you can do it with less - I know. Panos: You could, but with the bus movements heading east on Dubuque or on Church, I don't know that I would - Vanderhoef: 2 1/2 feet. Panos: Right. That will give you- Vanderhoef: To have a fully functioning- Panos: Correct. Vanderhoef: Twenty year or thirty year working intersection. That seems to be a very small amount of land to take to put out a half million dollars of infrastructure for the movement of traffic in our city. I think we are kidding ourselves if we do not move forward with what we have to have to accommodate our growing city and population. Wilburn: And there was not, ah, - Vanderhoef: Well, Connie wasn't here the night. Champion: I wouldn't support that. Bailey: I still want the process to be taken, take both options to the neighborhood. Let's increase some understanding of the decisions we're making. Perhaps they would agree with that decision because, do you want it torn up twice? If that's how people see it and they buy into that vision, if you want it tom up twice, or do you want us to do the work now, perhaps we would be surprised. I think that this warrants a discussion with the people who are concerned and upset. It's not that I'm unwilling to make a decision, but I think the process would be better if we could have that discussion and make that decision with that group. Vanderhoef: But the discussion needs to be with the, with all of the citizens, not just with a particular neighborhood. Champion: Oh. I disagree. Elliott: Oh no! Streets belong to the City and not to the neighborhood. Champion: Oh then don't even have a neighborhood meeting. Bailey: Streets impact neighborhoods though, and I think these people feel particularly unsupported by this group. I mean, the Historic District didn't go down. They feel that This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 5 this neighborhood, just as we've talked about other neighborhoods, they feel like this neighborhood needs stabilization. By putting more traffic on Church Street, there's a huge concern about what it may look like, how it may encourage or discourage, you know, people living on that street. And, and that area is really corning back, the school population is increasing. People are, you know, young families are moving in and there's a real concern and it feels very much in peril. And I think, even though the streets belong to the entire community, they impact neighborhoods, and I think it warrants a discussion, because this is a neighborhood that doesn't feel supported by the seven of us. Elliott: Well I, I'm happy to listen to the neighborhood and the neighborhood should have some additional input, but the streets belong to moving traffic throughout the City and the neighborhood does not dictate - Bailey: Moving people. Elliott: What happens on the street that runs through there. Bailey: Moving people throughout the City. We have a, we're moving towards Complete Streets, and that's about moving people, not just moving cars. Wilburn: I'm going to ask again, is a majority of the Council wanting to see both of these plans presented when City staff goes out and talks to? O'Donnell: I don't think it's necessary. Vanderhoef: Absolutely. O'Donnell: I don't think it's necessary. Champion: I, I think it's fine. I'm not gonna support widening of Church Street. Bailey: Even if the neighborhood would come back with that plan? Champion: Ah, well, if they come back with it I probably would support it. Elliott: They aren't going to. I'm a firm believer in saying we have listened to you. Bailey: But we haven't. Elliott: And for that, for that reason, that I'd like to see the two plans go out and therefore they can see what it was initially and after listening to them what we have compromised on doing. Wilburn: Ok, that's four right there. Bailey: And can we, can we present three? Can we talk about what it would mean if we would do nothing, take the money out and have to recompete for it? I think, I think that it- Elliott: I wouldn't be in favor of that. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 Champion: Bailey: Elliott: Champion: Bailey: Champion: Correia: Bailey: Champion: Panos: Champion: Bailey: O'Donnell: Champion: Correia: Champion: Correia: Bailey: Champion: Bailey: Champion: Wilburn: Panos: City Council Work Session Page 6 Regenia, what about plan #3? But they need to understand what that would entail. And I think that they're, I mean- Mmm hmm. Why couldn't plan 3? You're saying do nothing - why couldn't it be just to widen those curbs so the buses could make those turns? I suppose it could. It would be a great improvement to that intersection. That's what I was just wondering too. Improve the bus area. I'd be fine with that. I, I mean - Maybe plan 3 could be improve the turn radius - is that what you call it? Turn radius. For the buses. Good transportation language. Going south on Dubuque Street - that's the only change that we want to make? Right. South. South Clinton. I mean - No, west, going west on Clinton. No, it's just a presentation to the neighbors about that would be another, or the, it's going to be a community meeting. It doesn't necessarily just have to be a northside meeting. It should be, obviously, a public, open to all your street users. Can we do that? Can we make that plan 3? As far as I'm concerned you can. I can support that, just like that. I think there's enough heads shaking, so. Know what you're doing? Sure, ok. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 7 Wilburn: Ok. O'Donnell: Good luck. Bailey: So what are we doing tomorrow night with this agenda item? Champion: Well we can still vote for it. Correia: Is there, is there a deadline for this? Bailey: No. Correia: For this application? Champion: But the application can be, the contract just says we're going to do something. Correia: Ok. Champion: So I think we can still vote, can't we, to send that contract? Bailey: That doesn't feel very - Vanderhoef: We should put it in our CIP as a planned project. Knocke: I think if we're gonna go to plan c, I think that it doesn't make sense to use federal funds to do this proj ect. And so - Champion: Ok. Bailey: Ok. Knocke: I guess, based on my recommendation, it would be to defer it indefinitely and then we'll bring it back to you after we have the neighborhood meetings. Wilburn: Ok. Bailey: Thank you. O'Donnell: So we continue with the long lines? This all started out by asking for a turn lane so people could get through that intersection and the bus could somehow safely make that turn. Elliott: We'll vote on that. Wilburn: I think, I think we'll make the decision tomorrow night what we're gonna do and people can add their comments tomorrow night. Knocke: Ok. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 Elliott: Wilburn: Panos: City Council Work Session Page 8 Good. All right. Thank you. PAULA Deferred Prosecutions Wilburn: Elliott: Wilburn: Elliott: Dilkes: Elliott: Dilkes: Elliott: Dilkes: Elliott: Dilkes: Elliott: Wilburn: Ah, PAULA deferred prosecutions, we did get a copy of Eleanor's memo with her thoughts and concerns. I will also point out we did receive a letter from Phil Jones at the University of Iowa saying that they would not be in a position to fund, organize, or supervise the program. Otherwise, that's the information that's there. I'm not quite sure where to go with this. I have a question for Eleanor. Yeah, go ahead. Ah, Eleanor, the final sentence in your first, in your number one paragraph, says "Out of an abundance of caution regarding potential ethical issues, the City should not serve as a site for community service." I guess I, [ hadn't even thought, that came out ofleft field for me. Why is there an ethical reason for that? Oh, there have been some issues that the Supreme Court has considered with respect to prosecutors deferring prosecution or entering into plea agreements for the benefit of some For their own community. Yeah, and [just, I don't want to get into that. I don't want to get into, [don't want to even get near that problem. The old chain gang. Yes. You can do the community service other places. Ok. And frankly, we do do community service when the magistrates, I mean, we do provide sties for community service when the magistrates order it right now, and we can barely accommodate that. Ok. Good. [hadn'tthought of that. Urn - go ahead. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 Champion: Dilkes: Champion: Baeth: Champion: Baeth: Bailey: Dilkes: Bailey: Dilkes: Bailey: Elliott: Champion: Elliott: Baeth: Elliott: Baeth: Wilburn: Baeth: Champion: City Council Work Session Page 9 You know, the, Eleanor's memo, I'm not sure the terminology, but she suggested that she thought it would be better if the students approached the legislators who do what they do with- Public intox. Public intox. Have the students done that, do you know? Have they taken advantage of that? I mean no, have they gone to the legislators, tried to get the same law enacted? Oh, no. Not that I know of. Not. And if you changed that to reflect the option that's available with public intoxication, would that change it from a scheduled offense? That's what I couldn't figure out. No. Ok. It wouldn't have to. Wouldn't have to. Ok. But that could be done separate. I was reading something today, somebody objected to using the word absent. That could be done absent any, any concentration or focus on what is going on here. That's a separate thing you could do. Yes. And that could make at least some immediate impact on something that the students would like to achieve and they could still continue to work on this. And Ross, I'd like to point out that, that Dean Jones said that the Student, Division of Student Services isn't able to facilitate what this program would require. But I was contacted by Mr. Nakbasi today and he said that he was talking with President Fethke, who is very interested in this project, and while Dean Jones isn't necessarily as enthusiastic about it, President Fethke is. Neat. For what it's worth. Ok. For what it's worth. And he's here for who knows how long. I know, I know. Who knows? Maybe that's- This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 10 Bailey: It's looking for quite some time. Baeth: Four years, probably. Vanderhoef; Shorter rather than longer. Wilburn: I don't even want to get into that. Champion: Well, I like the, I like the idea of this whole project. I'm not sure, I'm sorry I wasn't here for the last discussion, where to go next with Eleanor's memo, kind of. Oilkes: I've been very accommodating, frankly, to Mr. Nakhasi, because I understand where he's coming from, but the problem that I see is we have the option for community service right now. Champion: Yes, so that - Oilkes: The only thing that we don't have is getting rid of the conviction. And it seems to me there is a much simpler solution for doing that. Champion: Your thing about the State. Oilkes: Than this incredibly massive undertaking. And it seems to me at least there should be an attempt to make that happen before we do this. Wilburn; And my recommendation if anything, if that's something the Council would be supportive of, is at the next legislative meeting is to make that request on behalf of the students if there is a majority of Council wishing to do that, to make that change. Champion: I think that would be great, because to me - Wilburn: Now to my own personal feeling, rather than some of the other aspects of the project that were discussed. Champion: It seems to me that the PAULA conviction is, to me, less criminal than the public intox., and ifthey're willing to do it for public intox., they should be willing to do it for PAULA too. Vanderhoef: I think this is a real good project for students to look at over the summer. Get the local legislators briefed on it, see if you can get some sponsors for it and it's something that could be ready to go next January. Bailey: Yeah. It seems a lot more, a lot less convoluted and a lot more direct and having the same impact that you're looking for. Baeth: Well I agree that it would fix part of the problem, as far as helping to keep somebody's mistake from ruining their record. I think the other aspect of it is not necessarily for the benefit of the student's future in getting a job, that sort of sense, but more that they have a This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 Wilburn: Elliott: Wilburn: Baeth: Elliott: Champion: Wilburn: Baeth: Dilkes: Baeth: Dilkes: Baeth: Correia: Dilkes: Vanderhoef: Baeth: City Council Work Session Page 11 chance at a more meaningful punishment and who can learn from their mistakes in this way and connect to the community. And I think this is a good opportunity. You know, I understand it is a big undertaking and, but I think there's potential to build a relationship between the community and these offenders who this program can have a very positive impact. Kind of the piece that I added last time is that my conversations with some of the same folks that the students had is concern about the capacity of, whether it's the nonprofits or the City or whoever to, to take it on. I think one of the - And, and a question about, there's some disagreement here about whether or not it really fits the concept of restorative justice. So. There's just going to be disagreement. Mmm hmm. One of the aspects of this though is if the University and the City and the County could get together to provide a format and a concept for community service that, right now, as Eleanor said, the magistrates do provide some of this, but there's so little capacity for it that I think one of the aspects is trying to build that capacity in a cooperative effort with the County and the University and to provide them some meaningful activities for these students who might be. And it shouldn't be just students. It should be anyone in that area. So that aspect of it, it may be too difficultto accomplish, but I'd certainly like to see it proceeded. Can we put it on the joint meeting agenda? Sure. Now Eleanor, I also thought it dealt it blow when you said that the community service couldn't take place in the City. Is that, so that's even if a different organization volunteered to help out in the City? No, no, it can take place within the City. It just can't be- Right, I'm sorry, [didn't mean that. For the City, for the City ofIowa City. So for instance cleaning up the downtown area wouldn't be acceptable? It couldn't be placed with the City as the supervisor. It couldn't be - yeah. It can't be supervised by staff. But if it was supervised by another entity it would be ok. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 Bailey: Dilkes: Baeth: Champion: Bailey: Elliott: Dilkes: Elliott: Dilkes: Bailey: Elliott: Baeth: Elliot: Baeth: Wilburn: Champion: Dilkes: Baeth: Champion: Dilkes: Champion: City Council Work Session Page 12 Mmm hmm. If it was a community group that was going to clean up Ralston Creek it wouldn't be a problem. Ok. Or pull weeds out of Hickory Hill Park - what do they call them, noxious weeds. Garlic mustard. Or for instance, ifthis, if this were a cooperative effort, a countywide cooperative effort, that might - It might. It might eliminate a portion of those concerns. Yes, yes. My only - I don't want to be deferring prosecutions and having people, you know, walk down the hall from me and go over here and - it just, it's just too close to me. To have that direct, immediate benefit to the City for which I work. Mmm hmm. There's a lot of organization that would need to be done. Oh yes. But I think it's worth looking at. You know, simple solutions to difficult problems. Ok. So, can we - We can certainly do some suggestions to the, to students to request community service as opposed to fines. Ok. Oh yeah, that's great. I mean, you know, I think if their defendants were requesting community service they might get that. That's a really good idea. And can we put this on the joint meeting - when is that joint meeting? Soon? Is? This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. ___..~~.m__._..._..._____.____..____.___,___"._,_....m__._.~_._~.___~___.__,.,_..,..__._~._.____~.___,___._"-."--------.---...- -_...._.__....~._.- . April 2, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 13 Elliott: May? Karr: I was going to ask under Council time. I need agenda items by tomorrow - April 11 tl,. Champion: If it's not, can we put this? Correia: So, if we put this on, who would talk about it? Baeth: I will be stepping down before then. Correia: It's on April II tho Bailey: You're kidding! Next week. Elliott: Oh, say it isn't true. Correia: The joint meeting is on April II th Baeth: Sorry? When is the meeting? Bailey: Next week. Baeth: April did you say? Oh sorry - I thought you said May. Vanderhoef: Mmm hmmm. Baeth: Ok. I'll talk about it. Dilkes: I'm - can I - I just want to: why, why is this a joint meeting? Correia: Yeah that's what I'm wondering, because it's an Iowa City. Champion: Because we were wondering about, oh- Correia: It's an Iowa City charge. Dilkes: They're mostly Iowa City charges. Now, other communities, well, I think University Heights has their own, but a lot of them just charge State charges. I mean, there would be some, some consequences outside Iowa City, but the majority of them are Iowa City charges. Champion: Right. So maybe that's not good. Dilkes: I just, I'm not sure (can't hear) Correia: Why we would - Champion: Right. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. -~,---~----,-,----,--,,-------"~-~----'--"-~'~'---'-.---.-"'--------------.--..----,'--.----....-..,.--..-_..- April 2, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 14 Vanderhoef: I think that's part of the problem, is that we have a concentration of offenses in a small community as compared to the city of Minneapolis, where there's lot's more organizations, lots more volunteer possibilities. Baeth: That's a good point. And I like the idea about seeing if we can amend the law for the deferred judgment. I will definitely look into that. Student government's been pretty successful lobbying lately, so maybe we'll try to extend our success. Champion: Yes. That's a good one. Elliott: More successful than the Regents. Vanderhoef: I have one for the students to help us with next year. Wilburn: Agenda items. Bailey: I have. Champion: Oh. Go ahead. Bailey: Go ahead Connie. Champion: No, I'm just writing something. Go ahead. I'll catch up. Bailey: I have a question on some Consent Calendar items. This is- Dilkes: I'm sorry, can we back up to the PAULA one second? So can I assume then that staff should not - Vanderhoef: Spend more time on this? Dilkes: Spend more time on this. Is that the decision? Vanderhoef: I think it should be deferred for a year. Dilkes: We're awaiting possible legislative proposal. Wilburn: Yes. Champion: But I think it's a good idea to have people who have to appear before a magistrate with a PAULA ask for community service. I mean, I think- Bailey: I, I appreciate all the work you did to work with the students, because I know that sometimes that, that can be very time consuming. Elliott: Yes. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 Al!enda Items Bailey: Elliott: Bailey: Atkins: Bailey: Wilburn: Atkins: Bailey: Atkins: Bailey: Atkins: Bailey: Atkins: Bailey: Atkins: City Council Work Session Page 15 Ok. Which one? 4d(5) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION FIXING DATE (April 16) FOR A MEETING ON THE PROPOSITION OF THE ISSUANCE OF NOT TO EXCEED $600,000 OF GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS (FOR A GENERAL CORPORATE PURPOSE) AND PROVIDING FOR PUBLICATION OF NOTICE THEREOF. Item 4 d(5) this is a resolution, issuance of bonds. I have a question about a couple of these. Just, improvements to the Sand Lake Recreation Area, I know it's in our, $400,000.00 is in our plan this year. What specifically are we doing? What are we on track for this year? I guess I just don't know. That I don't know. Oh, ok. At a minimum it's got to be getting the concrete, cinders - Well I know it's- Yeah. I mean, we are programmed to spend about $400,000.00 and that might just be cleanup, right? It is, initially, the very first phase is clean this place up to make it presentable before we. That's where we are? Ok. Because I'm suspecting that before long people are gonna want to start using it. Right. We're already getting inquires about using it for the use of fishing. It would be help - I mean, I know this plan isn't fully fleshed out, but it would be helpful if we had at least a staging plan of it will kind of go in this order- Ok. 4d(7) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION FIXING DATE (April 16) FOR A MEETING ON THE PROPOSITION OF THE ISSUANCE OF NOT TO EXCEED $435,000 OF GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS (FOR A GENERAL CORPORATE PURPOSE) AND PROVIDING FOR PUBLICATION OF NOTICE THEREOF. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 16 Bailey: And cleanup seems like the natural next step. And then on 7, there's a mention of acquisition of art for public buildings and areas and that's something I couldn't find on our fiscal year '07 CIP. Atkins: That's sort of an embellishment of the art program, where those folks have asked for us to do that. Which one, which number is that? Vanderhoef: Is that the $50,000.007 Bailey: 7. Elliott: 7. Bailey: It's 4, yeah, 4d(7). It's on page 4, #7. Atkins: Ok. Bailey: And it says acquisition of art for public buildings and areas. Atkins: Yeah. Bailey: And so what is that? Atkins: That $400,000.00. Bailey: Ah hah. Atkins: Within those proceeds that we would generated from the bonds, we would do art in public buildings and areas. You have a commitment of, I believe, of $50,000.00 in the budget, because the other monies are to pay for the window replacement and other City Hall improvements, routinely. Correia: So that, oh. Bailey: But that's not our public art program, is it? Vanderhoef: Yeah. Atkins: Yeah, it's the public art program. Correia: Art for public buildings and areas that the City - Bailey: Oh, public buildings. I assumed we were talking about this, we were talking about art, our public art program. Atkins: Public buildings. Bailey: Got it. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 17 Atkins: Ok. Bailey: I was very - got it. I just was. Atkins: No, I can see your confusion. Our hearing- Bailey: Public buildings, I thought you were gonna get a really nice sculpture for your office is what I was really concerned about. No. Champion: I know. Vanderhoef: He has to paint his own pictures. Atkins: I paint my own. Mediacom Rate Adjustments Bailey: Helling: Bailey: Helling: Bailey: Helling: Bailey: Helling: Bailey: Helling: Bailey: Wilburn: Helling: Wilburn: Elliott: Yeah, I know, you paint your own. And then in the information pack, this Mediacom rate adjustment. Dale, don't we set basic cable rates? We, what they do is submit paperwork that - I know, but they're assuming that we're going to say yeah. Well what, they always do. I know. I was quite incensed. Because what they do is, they propose the rate increase, then they submit the papers. We have to analyze that and see if it's consistent with the FCC formulas. Right. If it is you don't have a choice. Right. So when will that be coming up? Soon? Ah, the rate increase I" of August, usually they submit those papers in, I'm thinking, somewhere in May. Ok. There was one time it wasn't and we challenged them on it and won. Yeah, there have been. We actually got a small rate adjustment refund. Yeah. It's gonna be rare and miniscule though, I presume. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 Bailey: City Council Work Session Page 18 Thanks. Correspondence 4f(11) Brian Flynn: New proposals by the Fire and Building Depts. Elliott: Correia: Atkins: Elliott: Atkins: Elliott: Bailey: Wilburn: Atkins: Bailey: Elliott: Atkins: Bailey: Atkins: Bailey: Atkins: Elliott: Bailey: Ah, you're talking about items. Do we have support for Brian Flynn addressing us at the next work session? Where is that? Ok. Let me, that project is the public safety, the fire safety issue. Your next work session is only good for an hour and a half. So we're going to have to figure out how we can do that. Then at an upcoming. That'll be your call, but I'm just saying if the next one is going to be tight on agenda. That's, the next one precedes a formal? Mmm hmm. Because we moved the formal. What I had put out, I'm presuming I'm not seeing it, there was an email that I responded to Brian - ok. So it's the pleasure of the Council. We had, we had fully intended to present it to you. We have a PowerPoint presentation on what the issues are. I think the world should see that, then Brian is certainly welcome to come and comment, but I, the reason I asked Ross is to ~ Can we - I would like to have them both on the same night. That's fine too. It's just a matter of scheduling. I think we should handle this the way we started handling zoning and put it on a, can't we just put it on a formal agenda? Oh sure, you can do that too. Because then it's taped and then more people see it. [just don't know if they'll be ready for the next meeting. It's fine, I just, so it- Are people, are people ok with putting it on the formal agenda with not a decision point? Is that possible? This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 Atkins: Wilburn: Bailey: Elliott: Bailey: Atkins: Elliott: Bailey: Karr: Bailey: Atkins: Champion: Bailey: Champion: Bailey: Champion: Bailey: Wilburn: Champion: Dilkes: Bailey: Atkins: Elliott: City Council Work Session Page 19 That is possible. No action, is that what you're saying? No action. Information item. Yeah. I mean it's kind of a work session-like item but on a formal agenda so it can be taped and more people can be aware of it. Yeah. Work session is where most of our work gets done anyway. Right, and there's a complaint. Those aren't taped and those aren't widely attended by the public, so. You talking about the building and fire codes? Yeah. Yes. The A2 occupancies. Yeah, that needs a whole meeting to itself. But we, I think it needs to be a meeting where people have the opportunity to have it taped. Well yeah, why don't we, yeah, we can have a separate work session that deals with that code. Ok. And have, have it taped, have kind of a town meeting where people can come and talk. That's, so that would do more of a public hearing, though. That was one of the options that I believe I put out there. I like that. I mean, I like it. The other option is that - Is this is here, what you put out? It should be. I didn't - you responded to that, Ross? This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. _.."...._~--_.._-_._-------~~-------_._.._.._._~--'-_...._.._,._._-_._----,.._,~_.----_.._--_..,-"~---~~_.,-_.--- - -- - -.-.-...."....-....-.. April 2, 2007 Wilburn: Elliott: Wilburn: Atkins: Correia: Atkins: Bailey: Wilburn: Atkins: Wilburn: Atkins: Bailey: Atkins: Correia: Atkins: Bailey: Wilburn: Bailey: Karr: Elliot: Bailey: Elliott: Bailey: Wilburn: City Council Work Session Page 20 Yes I did. I didn't see that memo. I don't know, I just don't know if it ended up in- Ok. I'm sorry, I didn't get it to you, apparently. No, I don't see it. ['11 see that you get it. So, what is, what were you thinking, Ross? Well, I had told Brian that typically we kind of reserve, preserve work session time for the Council to discuss because - It was handed out tonight. Oh. So was it handed out? Here you go. [didn't get through everything. Sorry about that. I don't think [ have it still. It's got my name at the top. Oh - got it. Climate, is it with the climate protection? What's the cover page on that one? Yeah. What does it look like? It had a number in the upper comer. I have price gauging. Climate. Global warming. Are you talking about price gauging, Ross? Fixing global warming. Who knows what I was talking about? This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. .~~~-_._-_...-.__._,_._~-~----._---~----"--""'----~-----~_._,- ---,,---_._,_.,....-..._------,.._-~---~._._---_._.__..---'-~'._- _.-._-_.~--_._--_. April 2, 2007 Karr: Atkins: Karr: Correia: Elliott: Champion: Karr: Bailey: Wilburn: O'Donnell: Wilburn: Elliott: Bailey: Champion: Dilkes: Correia: Wilburn: City Council Work Session Page 21 Steve, does it have my name at the top? No, it has mine. Then I didn't, then they don't have it. I don't have it. I certainly don't have it. I don't have it. J haven't seen it. Ok. Ok. So he's going to outline what he wants to do. Ok. Ah, let's see. Brian made the request, I said there are two issues that come to mind as I reviewed your request. I said Council has not had a chance to review that, so the recommendations have not, the proposals which you have referred to have not been in front of Council yet for our review and won't be until the recommendations have been finalized. When that has occurred the Council will be able to review any concerns that you or your group have. You will be able to review the final recommendations at the same time as the Council. We receive information about staff proposals in a Thursday pack. And I'm just outlining the process for him. As we have done before on occasion, if the Council wishes to have a public hearing on an item being proposed we can have one at a regular meeting or set up a special meeting and have that item be the only item of business. Special meeting. Also, you can contact Council members directly to express your concerns. I'm talking about after we hear the final recommendation. I remind you that we have not had the proposals in front of us yet. Ijust said I know the item is important to you, however, it's important for me to try and preserve the work sessions as a time for the Council to have adequate time to discuss all of the issues in front of us and be able to direct questions to staff. So. Yeah. I like the special meeting. Special meeting. Special meeting. One of the - How long do you think it would take? Go, go ahead, Eleanor. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 22 Dilkes: Well, one of the ways that we've done this in the past is the ordinance is prepared, it goes on the formal agenda, we set it for a public discussion, and then, you know, you can have, if you wanted it all to be on TV you could have the presentation by staff and then comments by the public at the formal. I mean, you could certainly do that at the informal too. But that's, I think it's good to have the actual ordinance on and have, so people, we all know what we're talking about. Wilburn: And that, that was kind of what I got to Brian is you're lobbying to talk about something that we haven't seen a final recommendation yet, so. Karr: You certainly could do that at a special formal with just that item. We've done that on occasions, with the 21 ordinance comes to mind. Bailey: Zoning. Karr: Zoning. Champion: Zoning. Correia: Like how long of a discussion? Karr: Well, I would suggest regardless of what you call it, I believe that you're going to have to sit up here because the room, for conversation, it's just going to be enough people there that you're going to need the space. Correia: Right. And I'm just wondering, we have, it seems like our regular, when we don't have anything controversial, we don't have a long agenda, our Council meetings don't last very long. And anytime you have a special meeting, if it's an hour or two hours or there's an additional half hour, you get here early, you leave late, I mean it just adds time for everybody. That if committed to a longer meeting, then we might have - Champion: But then I would suggest that we put it at the end of the agenda so other people aren't waiting here. Vanderhoef: Through all of our other business. Champion: Through all of our other business. Correia: I'm just throwing it out as- Champion: Yeah, no, I think you're right. I mean, we could do it at a regular formal meeting. But I, my recommendation would be that we do everything else on our agenda. Correia: First. Champion: Before we do that. Vanderhoef: Absolutely, Connie. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. Apri12,2007 City Council Work Session Page 23 Champion: So people aren't waiting around for their agenda item. This could take a half-hour or two hours or longer. We don't know. Bailey: Or longer. Elliott: Oh. Vanderhoef: Or we could say we will do a special one hour or one hour and fifteen minutes. Bailey: Like we did with zoning. Vanderhoef: Whatever we want to say on this one special issue at the end of the - Bailey: And continue the public hearing. Dilkes: Like you do with- Vanderhoef: Pardon me? Dilkes: You could do like you do with public comment; if you wanted to put it earlier you could say we'll go for an hour, the other stuff will go, and then we'll finish at the end or something like that. Elliott: I would just like Brian's group to be here to talk with us. Champion: Oh, they'll be here. They will be here. Elliott: At the same time the staff does. I don't want the staffto present and then a week or two later another group comes in. Bailey: I agree. I think we should have all the information. I, yeah, what everybody has said. All the information, same time, and not necess - and potentially continue the public hearing and not necessarily vote on the first reading of the ordinance, even that - Champion: But we need to see the ordinance, and they need to see it too. Bailey: I agree. I think Eleanor makes a really good point. Correia: Absolutely. Yeah. Atkins: Oh. We hear you. Champion: Whip it out. Bailey: So you got what we want. Champion: Whatever you do is fine. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 24 Bailey: But check with out basketball schedule first? Elliott: No, we're going to complain whatever you do, Ross. Champion: Baseball schedule I think. Bailey: Ok. Whatever it is these sports people do. Vanderhoef: Are we ready for the next questions. Wilburn: Agenda items. Agenda items, yeah. O'Donnell: Some people play cards rather than watch games. ITEM 10. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ADOPTING A COMPLETE STREETS POLICY FOR IOWA CITY, IOWA. Vanderhoef: Ok. 10 and II. 10 the ordinance is written without a percentage. Bailey: Mmm hmm. Atkins: Yeah. Vanderhoef: And I wondered if there was a nod of heads tonight to use one so that when it's read it can be read with a percentage in it? Elliott: What's a percentage? Bailey: For the Complete Streets. Vanderhoef: For the excessive. Correia: Excessive costs. Wilburn: We hemmed and hawed between 20 and 25% last time. Correia: And so the 20% can be the, that, sort of the industry standard at 20%, you could say no, you wouldn't do it, but you would still have the option, 23%, to say well, we're going to do it. Vanderhoef: Because there's overriding reasons why a Council would choose to do that. Correia: Right. To do it. 20% doesn't constrain you that once it hits 22% you can't do it. Bailey: Right. Correia: That's just you have the option of the policy to not do it. Bailey: Of a discussion point. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. _ __ +____.___~.__.+__._m_._.__.._~_.___"_.___ ____.+__+_..__"...___.._.__.___+.___.~____.,_. --..--.---.,.-. ---------.-------"'-.------.- - - -- -~. -,..----..,-~.-----~-. April 2, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 25 Correia: But you could. Is that right? Atkins: Mmm hmm. Elliott: I don't think the percentage means you can't. I think the percentage means if it's below the percentage we are required to do it. Correia: Automatically. Elliott: If it' s above it we have the option of opting out. Isn't that? Correia: Yeah. Bailey: That's why I suggested 25, to get more, yeah. Vanderhoef: I'd I ike to try it at 20 and future councils can always change all of this. Bailey: Yeah, because we do so much rework. (laughter) Bailey: Could save that much time. Vanderhoef: Try it at 20% and see how it goes, see if that industry standard isn't a good number to start with. Bailey: I'm interested in this discussion, most of these cities do not use an explicit percentage to define excessive costs, so did you get a sense of where that comes down, or what happens? I mean, are they doing great projects or are they not doing great projects. I mean, they're noted as bicycle friendly communities. I assume that they're doing great projects. Yapp: They're doing similar projects to Iowa City. Bailey: Ok. Yapp: As far as sidewalks, public funds toward trail construction, sidewalks as part of bridge construction and pedestrian tunnels. It's very similar-type projects. They, with locally funded projects, councils, the message I got, councils always have the option of funding or not funding or delaying any locally funded project. It's when you are using state or federal funds where other entities are making design decisions that that percentage becomes important in giving some guidance. Correia: That's where you would want a percentage. Is that what you're saying? Yapp: Any federal funds already have that guidance, because any federal funds coming through JCCOG. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 26 Elliott: And that is? Yapp: 20%. Correia: The 20, oh, ok. Elliott: That is a standard. Correia: I see. Yapp: It is a federal standard for federal funds. Bailey: Ok. That'sjust 20. Vanderhoef: Period. Wilburn: 20%. Correia: Might as well be consistent. Bailey: Yeah. Let's be consistent. Yapp: And Amy made a good point. You can still fund something. Bailey: Sure. Vanderhoef: Oh sure. Yapp: Like a pedestrian tunnel that might be very expensive. You can choose to delay it, but that's always your option. Wilburn: Ok. Thank you John. Yapp: Thanks. Bailey: Thanks. Wilburn: Other agenda items. ITEM 11. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ADOPTING A POLICY FOR THE EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS TO ADDRESS THE PROVISION OF SIDEWALKS WHERE THERE ARE GAPS IN THE EXISTING SYSTEM. Vanderhoef: II. On the sidewalk infill policy. I was looking for reasons why when you get to the ease of construction, the second circle a sufficiency of right of way and need to acquire property. Why do we have to acquire property? Don't we already own from the curb back a certain? This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. --~----~--"--""--"--""'-'-'--"-----'---'-------'-~-,_.._-_._--_.~--_._"-_.-_.._._--,._---"._-_.__.,._.,,--.-.--.-.---,--.------ April 2, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 27 Dilkes: No, but I think the point is if you need more width to put in a sidewalk, you start from the curb. I mean you, it doesn't matter where you, if you need more width it's got to corne from the property owners. Vanderhoef: I understand that, but don't we have a set amount that we own from the curbside? Dilkes: No. For instance, on my street, on Kimball Road, the sidewalk is right, on one side is right next to the road. On the other side there's no sidewalk. So in order to put a sidewalk on the other side of the street we would have to acquire additional right of way on the side on which there is no sidewalk. Correia: So the City doesn't own any right of way on that side. Elliott: So, if there's no sidewalk. Dilkes: It may own some, but it may not own enough to put the sidewalk in. Bailey: Which makes sense when you're talking about an infill project, because we are talking about some of those older neighborhoods that have. Vanderhoef: I understand that, but there's, you know - Dilkes: No, that's clearly going to be an issue. I mean, sometimes we don't have, in the existing right of way there is not room for a sidewalk. Vanderhoef: So it wasn't purchased when the street was made. That's, or to the City at that time. Dilkes: Or we had different designs of streets or you know, narrower streets or wider streets. There's just not enough right of way to put the sidewalk in. Elliott: This says if the, if there is no right of way or it isn't wide enough, we need to do whatever it takes. Dilkes: You need to consider whether you're gonna have to acquire property in order to get the sidewalk in. Elliott: Yep. Champion: And then when do- Vanderhoef: Since, if we're putting it in, I feel like citizens ought to give that. I'm serious. Correia: Oh yeah. O'Donnell: We can just take it by force. Dilkes: That's an assessment. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 28 Vanderhoef: They're mad because they don't want to scrape a sidewalk. I'm sorry but, it's sort of like streets. You have to have them for everybody. Bailey: I'd like to live in that reality too. Dilkes: Yeah, but when we acquire streets we pay for it. Vanderhoef: And give me an example of what you're talking about when you're talking about adverse impacts to private property, other then the maintenance and liability and so forth. Champion: Maybe they have to build a huge retaining wall. Vanderhoef: No, we've covered retaining walls someplace else there. Bailey: If you had a big oak tree. Atkins: Tree roots system. O'Donnell: Taking out a bush. Bailey: Taking out a huge oak tree. Atkins: Big tree or to kill a root. Dilkes: You've got a big hedge. (can't hear) Dilkes: Yeah. I mean, it's just. Bailey: Hey, respect your- Champion: A croquet set. Vanderhoef: So it's mostly vegetation. Dilkes: Oh no, it was just an example. Bailey: Oh I'm sure. Correia: Maybe they have a deck. Bailey: Yeah. Dilkes: Somebody's got, you know, a wall there. Wilburn: It's a catch-all. Dilkes: Yeah. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 Bailey: Wilburn: Bailey: Elliott: Bailey: Elliott: Bailey: Wilburn: Correia: Wilburn: Correia: Bailey: Correia: Bailey: Correia: Atkins: Bailey: Correia: City Council Work Session Page 29 A legal catch-all. Other agenda items? 4e(2) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING, AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST A CONTRACT FOR THE PERFORMANCE OF CONSULTING SERVICES BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY OF IOWA CITY AND MARKETEK, INC., FOR A DOWNTOWN IOWA CITY, IOWA MARKET NICHE ANALYSIS I did want to check in with people about 4e(2); it's on page 5. This is the Marketek contract for the downtown analysis. It's on our consent calendar. Did anyone have any questions that they wanted Wendy - I mean, I think she'll be here tomorrow night, but if anybody had any questions, just to give her a heads up. I noticed Cedar Rapids is having one, at about the same price. Yes. I think theirs is 65 grand. Yes. Consultants are all doing well this year. They're doing this kind of stuff. Yes. Will this include discussion- I've got to stop doing pro bono work that the consultants do. Discussions with the faith communities located, churches downtown? Pardon me? Will it include outreach, getting information, you know, consulting with the churches downtown? I was at a meeting with the faith community, members of the faith community. They had wondered about that, since there are so many churches downtown, if that was considered as a - It wasn't outlined in our work plan, but- I mean I was, that just came up and they- Oh, yeah. I mean as stakeholders, I think we should put them on the list. That's a good point. Since we lost some out of the middle of downtown, I don't think of them so much anymore. Right, but there's still- This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 30 Vanderhoef: There's still 6 or 7. Champion: Well we happened to include looking at the Linn Street area, and there's certainly churches between downtown and it would. Correia: Yeah. Parking would be, sure. Bailey: Yeah. We can include them on the stakeholder list. Correia: Ok. Good. Thanks. Wilburn: Any other agenda items? Correspondences: 4f(3) Jay Honohan: Senior Center and Parks & Recreation Correia: I had just had a - you know, I appreciated the focus groups from the Senior Center. There was a student that had done that. I guess whenever I look at focus group narratives, I mean I always like to have- Bailey: The demo, demographics. Correia: You know, how many people, what were their ages, just sort of that. I don't know if they had, I imagine they may have done that, but I mean, I think those are. Bailey: I thought there were 16 people but they didn't have other demographic information. Like membership, if they were all members or not. I don't know ifthat would. Correia: I mean that just. (banging sound) Bailey: What was that? O'Donnell: It's a slam-dunk by Robert- Elliott: You have to pronate when you shoot the ball. Bailey: Very weak wrists, Bob. Vanderhoef: That time guys. He just tipped off. Wilburn: Anyone want Council time? Correia: The Tivo started recording right now, right? Champion: Might have Council time, but I could wait 'til tomorrow night. Wilburn: Ok. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 31 Bailey: Oh, make 'em die. Do it, Connie. Vanderhoef: Go ahead, Connie. Champion: Who's playing tomorrow? Atkins: Nobody. Champion: Nobody. Elliott: Nobody. Correia: Women. Vanderhoef: Women. Champion: Oh, the women. Bailey: And it's a new Boston Legal so we get out by 9. Elliott: Oh my. O'Donnell: We'll talk about (all talk - can't hear) Vanderhoef: We've gotta get Miss Marian home for the game. Wilburn: Pending discussion items? Bailey: I did have a question about these. I'm so sorry, you basketball people. O'Donnell: Who's apologizing to me? Council Time Bailey: All right. The overview oftransit services, I'm assuming that we're including the events and that's scheduled pretty quickly? Because we mentioned that. Atkins: Oh yeah, yeah. Bailey: There was something else I thought should go on that issue, that list, but I can't remember what it is now. Atkins: Well, the idea was it may provoke some additional thoughts. Let me know tomorrow so we can get them on the list if you think of any others. Bailey: Yeah, I will think, yeah. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 Elliott: Atkins: Bailey: Correia: City Council Work Session Page 32 I think we were going to get cost estimates on that weren't we? For what? The transit discussion, including the events buses. There was something else that we talked about. So it's, schedule them out? Is that something that? (cut off - end of tape) Correia: Atkins: Correia: Atkins: Bailey: Correia: Atkins: Bailey: Correia: Atkins: Bailey: Wilburn: Correia: Bailey: Correia: Elliott: Champion: Atkins: I mean something like the housing study, that's sort of pushed back until we get it. You'll be getting that probably by your next meeting anyway. Well, the selection for the, or the (can't hear) That's why I'm having trouble with the next work session meeting, is what we can get fitted in on the work session as well as allow you agenda time Well, we could program out our pending issues on this work session. That's what I mean. Can we program out our pending issues? That's ok too. On the next work session, that's what I'm suggesting. Ok. Ok. All the better. Because this isn't a focused group on, I'm feeling that. No they're not. So, you have, so, you just added transit related to? Events. Well, Summer of the Arts. Summer of the Arts, but are we gonna have a transit discussion? Because at some point we were gonna look at that again in terms of needing - We're building needs all the time. We're waiting to see. This transit discussion was intended to be very broad. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 Elliott: Champion: Atkins: Bailey: Atkins: Correia: Bailey: Atkins: Champion: Elliott: Atkins: Bailey: Wilburn: Karr: Wilburn: Elliott: Bailey: Correia: Wilburn: Bailey: Elliott: Champion: City Council Work Session Page 33 Yes. Right. Like the current financial conditions, update on your routes, what are the new things you want us to consider, pending federal funding. Ok. All right. So we'll have that. Ok. Yeah. It's intended to be a very broad agenda. Because there's also from our JCCOG work the item from subsidized cab service, that (can't hear) I'd like to start. Hey. I think you can put really anything you want on the table. Yeah. Ok Fine. That's breakfast tomorrow. When we have these broad issues, I'm assuming we'll go away with some understanding on some components and you'll probably have created, ok. Send these people home. See you tomorrow. Before we adjourn, there's, I've got to get agenda items in for the Joint Meeting. Anybody have any agenda items in for the Joint Meeting? Did we decide that? Once again, I will not be able to attend the Joint Meeting. Could we please get it off of second Wednesdays? I, I reiterate my request. I don't remember hearing that before. Sorry. Make that an agenda item. Yes. No second Wednesday. Is the student? No, we're not going to- This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007. April 2, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 34 Bailey: No. Elliott: It's not going to the Joint Meeting? Is that correct? Wilburn: That's correct. Bailey: Thanks for your dirt. Thanks for (can't hear) it at me. O'Donnell: You're welcome. Karr: That's it? Wilburn: Looks like that's it. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 2, 2007.