HomeMy WebLinkAbout02-14-2013 Historic Preservation CommissionIOWA CITY HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Thursday, February 14, 2013
City Hall, 410 E. Washington Street
Panma J Haivat Hall
5:15 p.m.
A) Call to Order
B) Roll Call
C) Public discussion of anything not on the agenda
D) Certificate of Appropriateness
1. 619 Ronalds Street (new gutters)
2. 513 S. Sununit Street (carriage house renovations)
E) Report on Certificates issued by Chair and Staff
F) Consideration of Minutes for January 10, 2013 — HPC Meeting
G) Adjournment
Staff Report
Historic Review for 619 Ronalds Street
District: Brown Street Historic District
Classification: Key Contributing
february 8, 2013
The applicants, Soplic jolt' and Claude Pujol, arc requesting approval for an aheration project at 619 Ronalds
Street, a Key Contributing property in the Brown Street Historic District. The project consists of removing
existing built-in gutters and installing new, exterior gutters and downspouts.
Applicable Regulations and Guidelines:
4.0 Iowa City Historic Preservation Guidelines for Alterations
4.6 Gutters and Downspouts
4.7 Mass and Roollines
Staff Comments
This vernacular Queen Anne style house is located on the south side of Ronalds Street. Builder and Architect
are unknown; date of construction is C. 1900. The Queen Anne influence is seen in the multi -gabled,
asymmetrical form of the house. Gable returns and crown molding over the windows, and the pedimented
porch entrance, mark it as the later `free classic' variation of the style. The house is one and one-half stories,
with brick foundation, clapboard siding, and metal roofing.
The proposed project consists of the removal of the existing built-in gutters and installation of new external
gutters and downspouts, The new gutters will have a halfroundprofile The work includes the installation of
replacement nreLal roofing at the roof edge where the built-in gutters are removed.
In this case, these is evidence that the existing built-in gutters are failing and causing damage to the house.
These gutters are not adequately sloped to drain and are therefore holding the rain, ice and/or snow on the
roof. 1lurthertn0re, because these existing gutters are not at the roof edge, but rather up the roof slope
approx. 1.0", any leak in the gutter results in water migration into the roof structure and walls of the house.
The guidelines for Gutters and Downspouts recommend repair of original built-in gutters. A second option
involves roofing over the built-in gutters and installing exterior gutters, with the condition that the roof slope
at the original gutters is not altered. As an exception, the roof slope may be slightly modified at the covered
or removed gutters if required for drainage. This exception is allowed when it has been determined that the
built-in gutters cannot be reported and cannot be returned to proper working condition.
Note that the guidelines refer to a typical style of built-in gutter that is part of the roof overhang. The built-in
gutters on this house are a different design. Also, it is not known if the bu It -in gutters on this house are
original, or a later addition.
The guidelines for Mass and Roofines recommend the preservation of original roof pitch and span;
preservation of historic metal rooting, whether or not it is original to the house; and preservation of historic
trim. Regarding roof pitch, there is an exception that allows minor changes to address drainage concerns.
Under this exception, other significant architectural features - such as trim, or brackets — must not be altered.
In Staffs opinion, the existing built-in gutters are beyond repair, and reconstructing the same design would
not guarantee proper function. 'hhe proposed project is a reasonable solution that will preserve the structural
integrity of the house. 'Phis work will maintain the existing roof slope, and will not alter the proportions or
detailing of the existing cornice and eaves. The profile of the roof edge will change with the removal of the
built-in gutter and the addition of exterior gutters, and Staff considers this change acceptable.
Recommended Motion
Move to approve a Certificate of Appropriateness for the projecL at 619 Ronalds Street, as presented in the
application.
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Application for Historic Review
Application for alterations to the historic landmarks or
properties located in a historic district or conservation district
pursuant to Iowa City Code Section 144C. Guidelines for
the historic Review process, explanation of the process and
regulations can be found in the Iowa City historic
Preservation handbook, which is available in the PCD office
at City hall or online at: www.iegov.org/IIPhandboolc
For Staff Use:
Date submitted: I i
❑ Certificate of No materi al Effect
❑ Certificate of Appropriateness
❑ Major review
❑ Intermediate review
❑ Minor review•
The I PC does not review, applications for compliance with building and zoning codes. Work must
comply with all appropriate codes and be reviewed by the building division prior to the issuance of a
building permit.
Meeting Schedule: The IIPC meets the second Thursday of each month. Applications are due in the PCD
office by noon on Wednesday three weeks prior to the meeting. See attached document for application
deadlines and meeting dates.
Property Owner/Applicant Information
(Please check primary contact person)
❑ PropertyOwner Name:
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❑ Contractor t Consultant Name,
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Proposed Project Information
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Historic Designation
(_yaps are located in the Historic Preservation Handhook)
❑ 'this property is a local historic landmark.
OR
❑ this Property is watim a historic or conservation district (choose location):
0 Brown Street Historic Distinct ❑ College Green Historic r)isnict
❑ Mast Collegc .Street Historic District ❑ Longfellow }Historic District
❑ Northside Historic District ❑ Summit Street Historic District
❑ Woodlawn Historic District ❑ Clark Street Conservation District
❑ Collcge Hill Conscrvation District ❑ Dearborn Street Conservation District
❑ Governor -Lucas street Conscivztion
District
Within ttre district, this property is classified as:
2 Contributing ❑ Noncontributing ❑ Nonhistoric
Proposed Project detaus to the Iowa City Historic preservation committee
Tom Wilson contractor, House: 619 Ronalds street, owner Sophie Joly and Claude Pujol
Project description
I am writing to try to get permission to repair a roof at 619 Ronalds Street. It is a
protected home with built in gutters. "they have suffered many years of neglect, and
perhaps worse, some poor quality repairs have caused further deterioration of the roof.
1 have worked on a number of'metal roofs and it may be said that this particular
design may not be as protective of the house below that other types of built in gutters.
Typically, a metal roof gathers the water and carries it right to the edge of the roof, if the
built in gutters leak they tend to leak onto the soffit area.
For this particular roof, the drains are not at the edge, but rather about 10 inches
up the roof plane. When these gutters leak, the water is directed into the walls and the
siding of the house, (see enclosed photos for clarity). 1 want the board to take this
particularly point into account: Leaks may go unnoticed for some time and do damage to
various aspects of the house: insulation, exterior siding, interior plaster, framing,
electrical or any material which supports the growth ol'mold or mildew.
The wood repair and the paint job needed for this house is directly owing to the
inadequacies of the current roofing. J am hopeful that the roof structure beneath or
sheathing below the metal roo f' is not damaged.
As one can tell from the pictures, this type of gutter is 1) less likely to be self cleaning, 2)
more likely to hold dri fts or slow fall over the structure of the house (as opposed to the
soffit area), 3) creating higher sides that shades from the sunlight the lower area
containing the water and thus snow and ice are more likely to accumulate, less likely to
thaw and more prone to ice dam from water being retained in the soffit area and freezing.
Material to be used
My original intention was to do some stop gap metal repair, some sealant and new
paint. As i started to uncover the damages, J realized that it was far worse that J had
anticipated. The problem is that it is winter and the worst of the past repairs are covered
with roofing tar and a material that looks like fiberglass mesh is covering some earlier
failed repairs.
One of the worst leaks on the SW corner of the building is a downspout where expansion
of ice caused the scam to split, thus opening a hole large enough for all my 4 fingers to
enter. This then drains right into the house.
1 agreed to try to work out a solution, which does not radically change the
appearance of the house, and yet serves to protect the home, the historic house and any of
the improvements that one must make to protect it from the elements.
In short, the metal roof would be protected and would remain relatively unblemished.
The gutters would be replaced with continuous metal to the roof edge, which would
transition to period appropriate gutters and downspouts, which collect the rainwater once
it is safely off of the roof (sec picture with proposed design).
Please find attached pictures that highlight the various problems.
Thank you for your consideration,
Sincerely,
Tom Wilson and Sophie Joly
The top 3 sketches show the roof and gutter as it is now
They are an Inside corner, and outside corner and a typical side view.
Note the location of the raise gutter spline is shades w/ diagonal lines
The bold line is the roof edge.
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The bottom 3 sketches portray a simplification of the replacement.
Again, the edge of the roof line is bold
There are some light lines which show where the gutter spline was.....
There is a detail which shows how the new metal meets the original in the
bottom right panel.
The lower left sketch is an inside corner. There would be a valley piece
so there was not a lap joint, a seam directly in the corner.
It would be met with two longitudinal runs of tin.
The lower center sketch represents an outside corner. There will be
either a seam or an overlap on the ridge where new meets new. The area
where new meets old would be either represented by the detail of the
lower left sketch. I also provided 2 photos.
The bottom right sketch is pretty self explanatory; a side view and some
hidden lines showing where the gutter spline was.
There should be an approximate 45 degree downturn drip edge near the
new location of the external gutters.
The bent metal seam connection raises about 1-1.5 inches above the area
of the original roof cut. The external fold which the old tin laps into should
be about 1/2 inch, so any water that entered would be more likely to exit
out the top side than the back side of the fold.
As mentioned I may be able to solder this connection, but I cannot
guarantee this.
It is certainly possible to use a self leveling sealant into the fold and screw
the joint w/ sheet metal screws.
This joint can also be back brushed with sealant. A coat of paint would
make 3 positive sealing methods; the geometry of the sheet metal joint, the
sealant and the roofing paint.
There is a detail which shows how the new metal meets the original in the
bottom right panel.
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619 Ronalds St.
this the west side, note that the valley that would collect snow is completely in the
shade, as is the drain to downspout
SW corner w/ leaky downspout transition. Note gutter shades itself even at high noon in
winter. Snow will build and be prevented from draining in the winter in valley. this
gutter to downspout transition has a split downspout due to freezing water. The split in
the downspout is approx 1 square inch.
West side of house, facing
north
corner detail of the downspout show on Pic e-mail #1 showing resultant damage
from leak.
One can get the idea that leakage directs water into the house and less so
onto the soffit below. One can also imagine drifting Into the roof valley being held in
place by the built in gutters.
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Moving around the house, this is the backyard, SE corner where the valley meets the
gutter. Note electrical service below. Holes here cause damage below, just as on the
SW side.
One can see the result and water damage below that valley area
§V corner facing North towards Ronalds. This striaht section of built in gutter goes not
Main completely towards the downspout. it has a high section in the middle, possibly
due to deterioration or past repairs.
You can see the faint shading showing a past repair of the area. One can almost also
make out the high area, mildly bowed upwards above the window. When there is snow
on the roof it merely drips off at the area where the 2 roof planes converge.
NE corner facing south. One can see the downspout (this one also has a hole in it) A
Vally which could hold snow and ice for months in a snowy cold winter, and there is
resultant wood/paint damage below the short length (that is on the upper area of the
photo running east to west) and the downspout area.
Also note..... these areas where the downspout would be replaced are all flat; they occur outside
of the standing seams. A replacement of this area with more flat steel would look quite
natural.
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This is the north area above the porch. Note that even at noon this is shaded in the winter and
that the gutter following a storm could conceivably have several feet of snow above it, and that
the gutter serves as a sort of cleat to hold it onto the roof. Any holes in the roof (such as may
occur in the transition from standing seam to flat) will be subject to ice dams and resultant
leakage in some conditions, regardless of the conditions of the gutters and type of gutters. Of
course, the more snow that is held on the roof the more subject to damage the house may be.)
This is also an area where modern house make use of snow and ice guard for that reason. (that
is an adhesive underlayment like tar paper that is installed under conventional roofing materials,
generally on roof edges and in valleys.
A possible roof connection. The upper piece being the existing roof, the lower piece
being the fabricated repair roofing.
This could be sheet metal screwed, either zinc coated of even stainless steel. It would
have a polyurethane self leveling sealer which would prevent water from being drawn in
to the joint.
It *may* be possible to solder the connections without fasteners.
It would not be possible to solder AND use a sealer interface as the polyurethane would
prevent the soldering. One could still seal over solder prior to painting.
This type of connection would be continuous, should provide no holes for water to get
through and since the gutters would not effectively be holding water onto the roof there
would just be less water against the roof even in the event of a leak.
Note, the sheet metal joint interface may also allow for some expansion and contraction
in the summer and winter.
Removal of the lower gutters and tin may provide access for wood repair (such as
sheathing) and installation of tarpaper or snow/ice guard. Since there has been no
demolition it is not known what will be encountered.
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The area beaneath the foreground is where the bird nest and wood rot is; may need
some wood replacement
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west side towards the backyard, interior corner. Very spongy. Potential metal roof damage
beneath this area.
This is on the west side of the house, near the front. You will need some wood replacement here,
there is a bird nest, wood rot and I believe a seeming hole above it in the roof.
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Staff Report February 8, 3013
Historic Review for 513 South Summit Street
District: Summit Street Historic District
Classification: Kcy Contributing
The applicants, Paul and Carrie Nichols, are requesting approval for an alteration project at 513 South
Summit Street, a Kcy Contributing property in the Summit Street Historic District. The project consists of a
new footing/foundation, new concrete floor, and new garage doors for the historic carriage house.
Applicable Regulations and Guidelines:
4.0 Iowa City Historic Preservation Guidelines for Alterations
4.3 Doors
4.5 Foundations
Staff Comments
Renovation is currently underway on this 1883, High Victorian Italianate style house on South Sunarnit Street.
Last month the Commission reviewed a proposal to remove two of the brick chimneys. This proposal
addresses needed repair of the historic carriage house, including a new footing/foundation, concrete floor,
and garage doors.
The one and one-half story carriage house is located at the rear of the lot, and is considered a contributing
structure in the historic district. The stricture has a combination of Dutch lap and clapboard siding, asphalt
shingle roofing, and no visible foundation. Some settlement has occurred.
The proposed new footing/foundation will be poured concrete. There may be as much as six inches of
exposed concrete above grade, with the concrete Finished smooth.
The new garage doors will Fit within the existing overhead door opening, which is shown on the attached
drawings as 15' 9" wide x 7' 6" high, per the drawings, there will he two painted, panel -style doors with
divided -light windows.
The guidelines for Foundations emphasize the importance of correcting moisture and stability problems. The
guidelines recommend repair of historic foundations; and any replacement materials should match the
appearance of the existing materials. In this case, there arc no exposed foundation materials to match.
The guidelines for Doors recommend retuning and repairing historic garage doors when possible; otherwise,
installing new garage doors that resemble the style of historic garage doors is recommended. Installing two
single -car doors instead of a single door is also recommended.
In Staffs opinion, the proposed work meets the guidelines. The new fooling/foundation is necessary to
stabilize the structure, and the six inches of exposed concrete above grade is acceptable. The proposed garage
doors seem appropriate for this building, although product information should be submitted for final
approval.
Recommended Motion
Move to approve a Certificate of Appropriateness for the project at 513 South Summit Street, as presented in
the application, with the following condition:
provide product information for proposed garage doors, for reviewand approval by Chair and Staff.
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Application for Historic Review
Application for alterations to the historic landmarks or
properties located in a historic district or conservation district
pursuant to Iowa City Code Section 14-4C. Guidelines for
the Historic Review process, explanation of the process and
regulations can be fotmd in the Iowa City Historic
Preservation Handbook, which is available in the PCD office
at City Hall or online at: www.icgov.org/HPhalidbook
For Staff Use:
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Date submitted:
❑ Certificate of No material Effect
❑ Certificate of Appropriateness
❑ Majorreview
❑ Intermediate review
❑ Minor review
The HPC does not review applications for compliance with building and zoning codes. Work must
comply with. all appropriate codes and be reviewed by the building division prior to the issuance of a
building permit.
Meeting Schedule: The HPC meets the second Thursday of each month. Applications arc due in the PCD
office by noon on Wednesday three weeks prior to the meeting. See attached document for application
deadlines and meeting dates,
Property Owner/Applicant Information
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Historic Designation
(Maps ore located in the Historic Preservation Handbook)
❑ This property is a local historic landmark.
OR
lK This Property is within a historic or conservation district (choose location):
❑ Brown Street Historic District
❑
College Green Historic District
❑ Gast College Street Historic District
❑
Longfellow Historic District
❑ Northside Historic District
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Summit Street Historic District
❑ Woodlawn Historic District
❑
Clark Street Conservation District
❑ College Hill Conservation District
❑
Dearborn Street Conservation District
❑ Governor -Lucas Street Conservation
District
Within the district, this property is classified as:
a Contributing ❑ Noncontributing 0 Nonhisloric
Application Requirements
Choose appropriate project type. In order to ensure application can be processed, please include all listed materials.
Applications without necessary materials may be rejected.
❑ Addition
(Typically projects entailing an addition to the building footprint such as a room, porch, deck, etc.)
❑ BuildingElevations ❑ Floor Plans ❑ Photographs
r ❑ Product Information ❑ Site Plans
Alteration
(Typically projects entailing work such as siding and window replacement, skylights, window opening alterations, deck or porch
replawmenUconaruction, balusterrepair, or similar. If -the project is a minor alteration, photographs and drawings to describe the
scope of the project are sufficient.)
Building Elevations ❑ Photographs ❑ Pt'oduet Information
❑ Construction of new building
❑ Building Elevations ❑ Floor Plans ❑ Photographs
❑ Product Information ❑ Site Plans
❑ Demolition
(Projects entailing the demolition of a primary structure or outbuilding, or any portion of a building, such as porch, chimney,
decorative trim, baluster, etc.)
❑ Photographs ❑ Proposal of Future Plans
,J' Repair or restoration of an existing structure that will not change its appearance.
❑ Photographs ❑ Product Information
❑ Other:
Please contact the Preservation Planner at 356-5243 for materials which need to be included with application.
Proposed Project Details
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MEMORANDUM
Date: Fehruary 8, 2013
To: Historic ['reservation Comuvssion
Frorn: Cheryl Peterson, Preservation Consultant
Re: Certificates of No Material Effect, Intermediate Reviews, and Minor Reviews
The Historic Preservation Handbook requires a report to the HPC at each meeting of any projects that have
been approved administratively. Below arc the projects approved since the Decemher report.
Certificates of No Material Effect— Chair and Staff review
722 E. College Street (repair day -tile awning over door on front of building - revised proposal)
722 E. College Street (approve new sign on front of building)
Intermediate Review — Chair and Staff review
none
Minor Review — Pre -approved items — Staff review
none
MINUTES
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
JANUARY 10, 2013
EMMA HARVAT HALL
MEMBERS PRESENT:
MEMBERS ABSENT:
STAFF PRESENT:
OTHERS PRESENT:
Kent Ackerson, Esther Baker,
Downing, Shannon Gassman
Pam Michaud, Ginalie Swaim
Frank Wagner
Chery Peterson; Bob Miklo
Mindy Seifert, Tim Sieck
PRELIMINARY
Thomas Baldridge, William
Andrew Litton, David McMahon,
Dana Thomann
RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL: (become effective only after separate Council action)
None.
CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Swaim called the meeting to order at 5:15 p.m.
PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF ANYTHING NOT ON THE AGENDA:
There was none.
CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS:
513 S Summit Street.
Miklo said this property is located in the Summit Street Historic District. He said the proposal is
to remove two of the four chimneys on the house. Miklo said that one of chimneys proposed for
removal is on the Summit Street side of the house. He presented an illustration showing what
the house would look like without the chimney. Miklo said the other chimney is not really visible
from the street.
Miklo said the guidelines used by the Commission with regard to chimneys refer to non -
prominent chimneys — that if they are not prominent or are not a key element of the house, then
in the past, the Commission's practice has been to allow their removal. He said that in this
case, the chimneys on the front of the house are quite prominent. Miklo said it would be staff's
recommendation that those be retained. However, he said the one in the back is not prominent,
and staff would recommend that it be approved for removal.
Miklo said it is staff's understanding that the owner would like to construct some closets in the
interior of the house, and that is the reason for the chimney removal. He said staff has spoken
to the contractor about a couple of options, one of which would be to brace the chimney from
the interior and keep the portion that extends above the roof. Miklo said the other possibility
would be to create a facsimile of the chimney, but that would not be the favored option.
Miklo said staff recommends approval of removal of the rear chimney but not the one on the
front of the house.
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
JANUARY 10, 2013
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Michaud asked if the chimneys have been rebuilt. Miklo responded that it looks like the upper
portions of the chimneys were rebuilt at one point. He said they probably had more of an
elaborate top to them.
Swaim agreed that the chimney in the front are prominent and area a significant elment of the
houses design.
Mark Kennedy, the applicant's contractor said that at this point he believes the owners are fine
with leaving the front chimney.
MOTION: Gassman moved to approve a certificate of appropriateness for the
application for 513 South Summit Street with the following condition: the proposed
demolition of the rear chimney is approved, and the demolition of the front chimney is
not approved. Baldridge seconded the motion. The motion carried on a vote of 10-0
(Wagner absent).
REPORT ON CERTIFICATES ISSUED BY CHAIR AND STAFF:
Miklo said there was one certificate issued for the installation of a radon -mitigation system at the
back of the house for a property on Grant Street. He said it will be painted, as specified by the
guidelines, to match the color of the house.
REVIEW NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION OF HAAS & SON GROCERY STORE 518
EAST BOWERY STREET.
Swaim said that Commission consideration is required before an item goes on to the State
review board. She said that interested parties, including the owners, were invited to attend the
meeting, but none of them were able to make it.
Swaim said that Mary Bennett prepared the nomination and said there were just one or two
changes that SHPO asked her to make. Swaim said she thinks the document preparer may also
have fleshed out a little bit more about the original owner. Swaim said other than that, the
document in the packet is what will be passed on. She asked for comments from Commission
members.
Miklo said this property was last reviewed for designation as an Iowa City landmark. He said
that the criteria used for the National Register are the same as for the local landmark.
Baldridge asked what the final resolution was for the door on the alley. Miklo replied that the
owner is going to keep the appearance of the door, but it will not open on the alley. He said it is
a building code issue.
Swaim asked about the front windows. Miklo said the replacement windows were approved
subject to chair and staff signing off on them, and the details are being worked out.
MOTION: Baldridge moved to approve the National Register nomination for the property
at 518 East Bowery Street, as submitted. Baker seconded the motion. The motion
carried on a vote of 10-0 (Wagner absent).
REVIEW NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION OF OLD SETTLERS' ASSOCIATION OF
JOHNSON COUNTY CABINS UPPER CITY PARK ROAD.
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JANUARY 10, 2013
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Miklo presented historic and current photographs of the cabins. He pointed out that one of the
goals of having these cabins listed on the National Register is to open up access to funding
sources for restoration.
Swaim asked for comments and discussion. She said the nomination is interesting in how it ties
the two into the use of log cabins as a commemoration of early pioneers.
MOTION: Akerson moved to approve National Register nomination for the Old Settlers'
Association of Johnson County Cabins, Upper City Park Road, as submitted. Baldridge
seconded the motion. The motion carried on a vote of 10-0 (Wagner absent).
PRESENTATION BY TIM SIECK ON A RESOURCE -SHARING WEBSITE FOR HISTORIC
PRESERVATION CURRENTLY IN DEVELOPMENT:
Seifert thanked the Commission for allowing them to come in and talk about their endeavors.
She said they are looking at examples of ways that the public and private sectors might be able
to work together on the type of projects the Commission discussed at this meeting.
Sieck said that he and Seifert founded MT Endeavors in the spring of 2011 with a mission to
help repurpose historic properties and architectural salvage components so that they can have
a modern-day appropriate use. He said that they developed a website, called Historic Building
Archives, to fill a need for information.
Sieck said they launched the website as a way for individual users who have a passion for an
old building, live in an old home, own an old building, or are just interested in old buildings to get
and provide information. He said they decided to take it a step further to make it nationwide and
eventually worldwide.
Sieck said listing something on the website is free. He said there are categories of information
and properties.
Seifert said one thing they are working on is an auction site of architectural salvage experts
where people can specifically buy and sell architectural salvage. She stated that one can
choose a category for an item to sell and eventually post it to the website, when that process
and website are up and running.
Sieck said they are working in this niche that they are passionate about. He said they would like
the Commission's help to build a community of preservationists who will use the site and help to
build the database. Sieck said they would like Commission members and others who are
passionate about old buildings to become members of the archive. He said one would simply
have to register to then submit listings and share stories.
Sieck said the benefit of the Commission doing this is that it adds another tool in the toolbox of
preservation efforts. He said it gives one more level of online exposure.
Swaim said the word listing has other meanings, such as listing a property to sell and National
Register listing. She suggested using a different word such as posting, to differentiate this
website from the other meanings. Seifert said she likes the idea of using the word "post,"
because it fits in with the online world.
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JANUARY 10, 2013
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Swaim asked if this website would have links to the Historical Society and other sites. Seifert
confirmed this and said they are making a network to pull all this information together, rather
than have it be separate. She said the social media aspect involves finding a community of
people who are interested in the same things. Seifert said once one can find the people who
are talking about the same kinds of things, the discussion just kind of blows up.
Seifert said they would like to see all of the types of properties the Commission discusses and
the areas and homes and buildings be listed on their website. She said it is frustrating to not be
able to find information, and their website is one place that problem can be solved by coming
together between the public and private sectors.
CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES FOR DECEMBER 13 2012 HISTORIC PRESERVATION
COMMISSION MEETING:
Swaim stated that on page five, in the third full paragraph, the last sentence should read,
"Swaim asked Commission members to encourage people to support the Jefferson Street
District."
Miklo stated that because of the approval of the Jefferson Street Historic District there will be
one more Commission member to represent that district. He said the member has to be a
resident of the district.
MOTION: Baldridge moved to approve the minutes of the Historic Preservation Commission's
December 13, 2012 meeting, as amended. McMahon seconded the motion. The motion
carried on a vote of 10-0 (Wagner absent).
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 6:12 p.m.
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