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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1978-05-30 Public HearingApril 18, 1978 141CROFILMED BY JORM MICR+LAB CLOAK HAPIM • DCS !101116 MiLkOFILMEO BY JORM MICROLAP CEDAR RAPIDS AND OLS MUINL�), iO,1A Vevera: Public Hearing on South Gilbert Street Relocation Project. T now declare the public hearing open. Also, anyone who wishes to speak, please step forward, state your name and address so the City Clerk can get it down for the record. You will be allowed five minutes to speak. Dietz: If it is all right, Mr. Mayor, I would like to give a presenta- tion first and then maybe call for some questions. The purpose of this hearing tonight is to afford the public an opportunity to be heard on the economic, social and environmental effects of the route location of the pavement and the proposed design on the South Gilbert Street Relocation Project. This is all in accordance with the Iowa Department of Transportation's Action Plan. Before we get into this, I would like to introduce Mr. William Nelson who is with the Iowa Department of Transportation's Ames office. Bill has assisted with the project, and he is here to make sure things run correctly tonight. But in fairness, Bill has expedited some of our previous projects on Muscatine Avenue and Mormon Trek. Also, in the audience is Chuck Schmadeke, Assistant City Engineer, and we'll be available for additional continent later on this evening. There is a series of things that have to be read into the written record. I don't want to bore you, but there is a protocol that has to be followed in order to maintain eligibility for Federal funds. This project is included in the Federal Aid Urban System, and this system is administered by the Federal Highway Adminstration through the Iowa Department of Transportation. Eligible projects of this nature are eligible for up to 70% Federal funding. Representatives from the City staff and the Iowa Department of Transportation, as I indicated, will be here tonight to answer questions. During the formal hearing, itself, the proceedings will be taped. If you have some questions as the meeting goes on, please step forward and speak into the microphone. lie are tape recording the meeting tonight so that there can be a verbatim transcript made. After we close the hearing, City staff, as well as the Department of Transportation member, will be out in the lobby to describe in detail some of the aspects of the project if you are interested and don't care to speak. Pertinent information on the location and design of the South Gilbert Street Improvement Project is available on request from the Depart- ment of Public Works, and you may submit a written request prior to April 28 and that would also be included in the transcript which would be sent to the State highway Department and the Federal Government for review. The purpose of the project is to relocate South Gilbert Street from Third Street south to the south terminus of Napoleon Park. The first three thousand feet south of Highway G is going to be a brand new alignment and as we go on with the discussion further, I will show you some slides of that, but it is intended to be relocated to the west side of Country Kitchen, which I am sure you are all aware of the location. That first three thousand feet, as I said, is a completely new realignment and south of that to the south project terminus is on the existing Sand Road right-of-way. 4• `•� I4ICROFILMED BY JORM MICR6LA6 .i"-n?'1i, i MICROFILMED BY JORM MICROLAB -2- CEDAR RAPIDS AND DLS MDINLS, IDwA Several problems will be attempted to be resolved with the location of this portion of the route, and I will go through those quickly. The skew angle at highway 6 and South Gilbert Street will be eliminated. The distance between South Gilbert Street and the CRISP railroad crossing at Highway 6 will be increased so that we will be able to construct a storage or left turn lane. The skew angle at South Gilbert and the CRI&P railroad crossing will be greatly reduced in the vicinity of Stevens Drive. A full eighty foot of right-of-way can be obtained without creating a negative impact on the adjacent commercial estab- lishments and the future intersection of the streets will not have to handle the railroad crossing adjacent to the intersection. A 66 foot wide right-of-way will be maintained at the south edge of the project adjacent to Napoleon Park. North of that section an 80 foot right-of-way will be maintained. North of the Southgate Addition, Part I, an 85 foot right-of-way will be maintained so that we can have a left turn facility northbound onto Highway 6. The existing 60 foot right-of-way north of Highway 6 will be maintained, or, I'm sorry, will be enlarged to 66 feet. As you may well know, there is a right-of-way restriction due to existing establishments along that area and although it would be desirable to maintain the wide right-of-way, we feel we can get by with the 66 foot width and still be able to construct the project. The pavement width south of Highway 6 will be four lanes, four 12 foot lanes, and there will be a left turn lane at the intersection. North of Highway 6 we will stick with 11 foot lanes as exists currently. Again, there will be a left turn lane. On Highway 6, itself, we intend to reconstruct that part of the pavement at the intersection to provide once again for left turn lanes. The essential pavement itself will remain fairly well intact but reconstructed enough to provide left turn lanes in each direction. We will provide storm sewers and inlets on the project so that two 12 foot lanes will be maintained at all times. Culvert crossings that cross the proposed realignment of South Gilbert Street will be sized to handle 100 year design storms. In addition to the pavement itself, there will be a four foot side- walk on the east side south of Highway 6 and an eight foot sidewalk/ bike lane on the west side. The bike lane stops at the north edge of Napoleon Park and the sidewalk on the'east side runs a little bit further south. The intersection of Highway 6 and South Gilbert Street will be signalized. We'll have left turn signals all the way around and that will be an added convenience to anyone who has driven there on a Saturday morning. The access control to the project will not be limited. Any future access will be restricted to the current City design standards, but curb cuts to potential businesses along the route will be allowed. wicnonDaro By JORM MICR#LA9 MICROFILMED BY JORM 141CROLAB • CEDAR RAPIDS AND ULS MOIML�), TUNA -3- The entire length of the project is approximately 1.1 miles. As I said it starts at the south end of Napoleon Park and terminates at approximately Third Street. Going to the west we will be reconstructing approximately 680 feet of Highway 6 and to the east, approximately 830 feet. These are to accommo- date the left turn facilities. The estimated cost of the total project is 1.374 million dollars. Seventy percent of this or approximately $962,000 is eligible for Federal Aid Urban Systems and approximately 7.5% or about $102,000 is eligible for what is called Urban State Traffic Engineering Program share. This deals strictly with signalization projects and traffic control projects, and this portion is available for that section of the project between Stevens Drive and Highway 6. Finally, the City's share is approximately 22.5%, or about $310,000. The schedule of the project: We submitted what is called a Concept Statement on approximately January 27 of this year. The purpose of this hearing is to provide an opportunity for public input and the end result is that we will send in a design location study which we anticipate submitting to the State on approximately May 15 of this year. We're optimistic, but we are hoping that we can let a contract by approximately November 1, 1978. Whether or not we actually get started may be another situation due to weather conditions, but if every- thing goes as anticipated, construction could begin by early 1979. i I've pretty much read this. I know I'm boring you with this type of thing, but it does tell in a fair amount of detail what the project consists of. This can be made available through our office of Public Works. After the meeting, if anyone would like COPY, if you would give me your name, I'll mail one to you. We've put together some slides, and they didn't turn out too badly, and I think they will be legible if I can just adjust this. This is the cover of the Project Concept Data. I put it in here just to recognize that this is a FAUS project, and although the name has been changed from South Gilbert Street Relocation to South Gilbert Street Improvement Project, it is essentially the thing that we started out with about a year ago when we first et broached the subject to City Council. Rather than trying g these maps pinned in here, and it's kind of difficult to see (and this may not be a great deal better) but this is what's hanging outside. At the right-hand side of the screen is the intersection of Highway 6, and this is the proposed realignment of South Gilbert Street. Currently, South Gilbert Street intersects at a skew angle with Sand Road. Right at this area is the Country Kitchen. over across the street is Pleasant Valley Nurseries. And as I keep pointing out also, this is the section of the project right here where we would anticipate acquiring the only structure on the project. The structure houses Modern Wall and two other business enterprises. The remaining portion of the project, although we need to acquire the right-of-way, the land does not contain structures. ` Mi Cnor ILMED aY 1 JORM MICR6LAO i:.1; .:I. F10:';L:� IILROFILMED BY JORM MICROLAB • CEDAR RAPIDS AND ULS MU11tlE�), 10WA -4- This is a continuation of the project. This is the area I described with the structure on it - right here at the inter- section with Stevens Drive - approximately right here is the borderline between the Cycle Shop, and this general vicinity. These last couple of pictures don't show a great deal, but this dotted line back of the CRI&P railroad tracks and approximately this position is the old line of Sand Road. As you can see on the north side of the - it's hard to see - very small, but along the west side of the project is an eight foot sidewalk/bike lane, and on the east side is a four foot sidewalk. The green, if you haven't guessed by now, is supposed to represent the parkway and the gray indicates the pavement. The final slide is the continuation down to the south line of Napoleon Park. I did take some slides of how the project exists today. This shot - I think I'll talk in terms of anyone who is familiar with the area - we were sitting at the Iowa Lumber and Supply Company looking south along South Gilbert Street. This is the intersection - DX Station on the corner, in the right foreground is Pleasant Valley Nurseries. We're still sitting at the same spot, but we turned the camera a little bit more to the right to show Pleasant Valley Nurseries. In the background is Country Kitchen and the project actually goes to the right of the Country Kitchen. We're sitting at the entrance of the intersection of Gilbert Street with Third Street. To the left is the parking lot of Cox Realty. Can everyone see this light if I shine it down here? It's clear to me. But this is a lime sculpture rock pile that belongs to Pleasant Valley. If you look along the south just to the left of the line of the rock pile, approximately the center line. I guess I liked that picture so I made two of them. Okay, now we're just right almost at the intersection of Highway 6. Country Kitchen is to the left. Perret: You might want to explain how much land the City is going to acquire in this area. Dietz: We'll have to go back. This particular area - everything will be pretty much - will fit into a 66 foot right-of-way. We've talked to the owner of Pleasant Valley Nursery and at the very extreme of his parking lot - actually beyond the parking lot - we will be taking an alternative to acquire as much as five feet. In view of the parking area in front of the building, we have been talking about approximately two feet in this area. On the east side - Berlin: Two feet from where? Dietz: Berlin: Dietz I'm sorry. Two feet from the existing right-of-way. The existing highway line is where in relationship to the curve? It's approximately that curve where that pickup is backing out from - the inside curve of that corner lot. �1 MIC1101'ILMLD By .IORM MICRO LAB Perret: Dietz: Berlin: Dietz: 1.11iROFILMED BY JORM MICROLAB -5- CEDAR RAPIDS AND ULS MUINLS, IU'wA All that exists in the City right now? Yes. That whole line exists now. What about this side? Okay - the left-hand side is the east side of the street. IAhadn't discussed it with you at the informal session yesterday. realized that we made an error in measurements out there. The right-of-way line is approximately a f ft befeet.theack sidewalkwhenwe there. We would ask for app measured it the first time we came out with 39 feet between the right-of-way line and the building. In fact the 39 feet between the right-of-way line and the planter box right directly in front of the building itself. I think that we have found since the ent existing parking there is 45 degree angle parking. The State of the Art standards for 45 degree angle parking require that you have a clear space of 32 wall.feet Whenowenches finishrwithom hthertakingnthere be of the car any will still be 34 feet between the planter box in front of the building and the right-of-way line. Mr. Frantz's letter addressed to City Council objected to the project. I'm afraid he was misled bynone other than myself. We had in fact errored in our measurement, and I think our potential problems with acquiring this piece lskioverthisminutethey aexceptstill toxsay at to some extent. I m goingng top P we are going to start the 85 foot taking this intersection is where to the Sand Lake Road area. I know that's until we get approximately not exactly right but thereafter it's going to be So feet. e west is Now we are sitting on Watebackttorive just the northtandhappr ximatelynright Kitchen and we are lookingking here is that same limestone rock pile between the two trucks and ' 1 kin retty much down the line of the proposed street. we re co g p We have just turned our camera to the south now and we're looking down towards the Modern Wall building. These red flags for instance were not on the center line exactly. The red flags indicate the proposed east right-of-way. I took this shot. It's looking east on Waterfront Drive. Apple - gate's Landing is on the right and Country Kitchen is on the left and the Robo car wash is in the background there. one of the things have to be resolved for this project is the potential and that does haextending the frontage road of 11ollywood Boulevard possibility vOf e into South Gilbert Street project. There is the possibility that e Country we would acquire approxima om Kitchen. The possibility existstelyZthatkwegmightsr be able to close hat ck to the Sand Road rightui7way and rements.SeThe wholeathing isuspeculativeKitchen for their parking reqeq depending epend not thatshould the eoutcomfrof the om tile Roboncarfwashlywood and Iahethcr or MIMI ILMED BY JORM MICR6LA6 NICROFILMED BY JORN MICROLAB CEDAR RAPIDS AND ULS MOINLS, lU'dA Now we are on Stevens Drive and this street is Sand Lake Road, and Modern Wall is on the left side of the street, and we would in fact attempt to acquire that parcel. Balmer: You talked about extending Hollywood down to the Robo car wash and that's a direct contradiction of what we had talked about previously. Dietz: That wouldn't bother me a bit. I would like to see it that way for the sake of the project. This, the Hollywood situation, will have to be resolved before we get into the right-of-way acquisition stage with Country Kitchen. We're still on Stevens Drive now looking south and in the fore- ground is the center line of the proposed right-of-way and in the background you begin to see some cars etc. from Kennedy Auto Salvage. This is a shot inside the Kennedy Auto Salvage Yard. The right- of-way is in there somewhere. It was a little muddy when we took these pictures so we didn't get up close. This is a shot from the Hilltop Trailer Court, and you can see the Kennedy Auto Salvage in the background, and actually there is one, two, three metal buildings and the proposed right-of-way is just on the other side of that metal building and runs through Kennedy Auto Salvage. This is a slide that looks northwest along Sand Road. To the left is the beginning of the trestle for the railroad track that goes over the Iowa River. It is rather low right there but our pavement would cross the track at approximately this area before it gets to the trestle. We will include an at -grade crossing and we would propose also that there be a crossing similar to several locations in town with lights and bells and so on. This is looking south again. We are right on the curve of Sand Road. This project will go right through and over that hill. And this is just on the other side of the hill. We are at the south edge of the curve. And we're pretty much at the same spot in the previous picture, but we're looking south now, and this is where the project - the proposed right-of-way - coincides - the center line of the proposed right-of-way coincides with the existing right-of-way. We are looking north here. This is from the driveway of the Norton property. Here we are looking at that same driveway, and we're looking south. There happened to be a yellow pickup right in front of the end of that driveway. It wasn't one of ours. This is the Norton property. This home and the ten acres it sits on is listed with the National Historical Register, and the possibility of getting a right-of-way is extremely small, there must be direct communication with the Department of Interior in Washington. Ile have elected to eliminate the sidewalk on this phase of the project. This is Napoleon Park and once again we have to eliminate the, sidewalk on the west side of the pavement. 1 i11Cfdafan.0 BY JORM MICRbLAB i PIICROFILMED BY JORM MICROLAB CEDAR RAPIDS AND ULS MOINL�, 10yJA -7- Once again, this is called historical (4F) property, and it takes almost an act of Congress to acquire such property. Okay, that was the proposed plan. We'll just go through once more on the existing plan to show you why we did not consider staying on across Sand Road. This is one of the same shots that was taken looking south from Nagle Lumber. Here we are on Stevens Drive looking south, and we're just across the railroad tracks still looking south. And here is the Kennedy Auto Salvage. We're still looking south across Sand Road to the railroad tracks. I guess here is probably the best picture to show why we didn't choose this alignment. This is again taken from the Hilltop Trailer Court. This is the existing Sand Road coming up here and curving back, curving back and back to Highway 6. We've got real right-of-way constrictions in there and without acquiring several businesses it would bean almost impossible task to get a pavement that would be a 20 year design. That's the end of the prepared presentation, and if there is anyone who has any questions, this would be an opportunity to raise those questions now. Schintler: Ron Schintler, 1116 Teg Drive. I own the lot just north of the Modern Wall Drywall Company, and the street alignment is going to take a sizeable chunk off of that lot. We have plans currently to build a new office and a warehouse for our firm. We are right across the street right now on Sand Lake Drive, and we did purchase that lot with the idea in mind to build a larger building. Naturally, with the street alignment that is going to curtail a great deal. But I guess we can live with the street alignment. I am concerned that when this alignment takes place, that we are cut off from the utilities that are presently on Sand Lake Drive right now. That street will no longer be, and, as I understand it, there are no provisions made to have the utilities put over to this vacant lot. I am concerned that this be taken care of so that later when we do decide to build we are able to build without having to tear up the street to put in utilities. Dietz: I think that we have discussed this very problem with Mr. Schintler, and that I think it is important to have it read into the record. We have not got the final design and there are a lot of details which will certainly need to be clarified, but I feel confident that we can take care of all of them. White: My name is J. Patrick White with offices at 330 South Clinton Street. I am here to represent Pleasant Valley Nurseries, whose business is at 1301 South Gilbert Street, which is at the north end of this proposed project on the west side of the street. We have several problems. A little bit of history to begin with - Gilbert Street, as it now exists, was widened, I believe, in 1971 or 1972. It was widened at that time to four lanes, and a considerable amount of parking that was then available at Pleasant Valley Nurseries was lost. One of the things they did in response to that project was they tore out the front of their building and, literally, moved it back six feet and built a new front wall. They are now left with approximately (I have not yet measured it) less than 35 feet from the back of that curbing which you saw in that particular slide to the end of their parking lot so as to allow for a couple of feet MICROFILMED By JORM MICR6LA6 CLDA6; hdt L.. d f. i'0 i'd1. r•11utOFILMED BY JORM MICROLAB CEDAR RAPIDS AND ULS MUINLS, !UWA l� for their patrons to walk in front of the vehicles. Assuming the need of 32 feet 10 inches called for, 1 doubt very much that two feet from what they now have is going to allow them parking in front of the building. The number of spaces, I am uncertain of, but I guess it would be ten to twelve. But a removal of acquisition by you of two feet in front of their building would pose a very serious economic problem for them. They lived through a Gilbert Street widening project once, and somehow I suspect they will again because Mr. Kroeze is a fairly adept entrepreneur, but we would urge on you an examination of any way possible to undertake this project and proceed without the acquisition of their property, particularly in front of the building. The alternative to that is I urge you to examine the possibility of somehow providing them with additional land on the south side of their property. Indeed, I assume the bypass right- of-way is, obviously, substantial all the way along the bypass to provide the necessary turn lanes. The only reason for this acquisition is to attempt to provide them on South Gilbert Street, and you don't have them at any other point on Gilbert Street. We believe that that can be built at the intersection, however, without taking Pleasant Valley property. With respect to the possibility of your providing additional land, what we are suggesting is that you talk to the Iowa Department of Transportation and determine if there is some way possible to provide Pleasant Valley with some of what would be the north right-of-way from the west on Gilbert Street, in exchange for the property in front of the building, if indeed you need it. It is terribly important to them also if you proceed with the project, that work be scheduled if at all possible, so you are not in front of the facility in the spring. I'm sure some of you have been there within the last couple of weeks. The months of April, May and June are their busiest time of the year. It is difficult not only to find a parking space there, but literally, to even get into their lot. If you have construction in the way, it poses a terrible economic problem. So whatever you do, please schedule your activities so that it reaches that end of the project during the winter. There is a safety problem already there, frankly, which is going to be aggravated by your acquisition of even two feet of right-of-way. In addition to the economic problem that they have with the parking spaces, there is a safety problem with traffic stacking up out into Gilbert Street. If you look at the accident records along Gilbert Street, and certainly out at this intersection, you'll find in the intersection at least, approximately half of them (I suspect the same will be true on north along Gilbert Street), are rear end collisions. I suspect it is something that will not be solved by building in a turning lane. It's a problem with speed and with people trying to get off on either side. It is a problem that will to some extent be solved by a left-hand turn but there is not hardly enough room now for a car to get into that parking lot while another car is trying to back out of a parking space. What happens is that they stack up on the inside lane on Gilbert Street, and you are going to aggravate that problem by taking two more feet. i want to talk a little bit about some of the problems which the document Gene described suggests will be resolved by this project. I think we have some real issues with some of the statements. The statement is made, and it was made again tonight, that the skew angle at Highway G and MICROFILM By JORM MICR</LAB ,i 1. *!O11'H.'� '1ICROFILMED BY JORM MICROLAB CEDAR RAPIDS AND DES MUINLS, IOWA IM South Gilbert will be eliminated. If indeed, it presumably will, that assumes that it is automatically a problem and to that you are remedying the problem by eliminating the skew. I have not at this point had a chance to compare accident figures, but if that is a problem, I assume that it will be reflected in the accident figures at that intersection as compared to other intersections. The statement is made that the distance between South Gilbert Street and the railroad crossing at Highway 6 will be increased to permit construction of a left turn lane. I don't think we understand at this point why we need additional distance from the railroad crossing to provide a left turn lane. You clearly need to have the left turn lane, but you are going to have cars stacked up at that railroad crossing anyway. If you drive down that street on a weekend, westbound traffic from the Gilbert Street intersection is stacked up now two-thirds to three-fourths of the way back to Keokuk. The statement is made that the skew angle at South Gilbert and the railroad crossing will be reduced. Indeed, it will, but it will not be eliminated. It's a fairly low traffic line and we are not convinced that those sort of improvements justify an expenditure of 1.3 million dollars. The statement is made that a full 80 feet right-of-way can be obtained without creating a negative impact on adjacent commercial establishments. I think that is wrong. The document on page 6 talks about widening the right-of-way to 70 feet north of Highway 6. Gene made the statement tonight that it is to be widened to 66 feet. Obviously, the smallest width possible is what we need. The statement is made on page S of the document that future intersecting streets will not have to contend with the railroad crossing adjacent to their intersection. The document does not describe in any more detail to what that refers. If indeed, that refers to the proposed fly-Vec intersection, I'm not sure that it does, we don't think that justifies taking the land from Pleasant Valley. Might I ask if that refers to something along Gilbert Street? Dietz: What that was intended for, Mr. White, was that on its proposed alignment South Gilbert Street and the streets that intersect it south of Highway 6, and there are some that might be proposed, will have a clear space between Gilbert Street, itself, and the railroad tracks. White: Lastly, Mr. Mayor, we simply would suggest to you that there are projects much more in need of the money you presume to have available for this. The problems on the bypass can be improved by adding left turn lanes, which could prove more economical. They could be improved by adding improved signaling, which would also be more economical. l�+_ I41CROf ILMCD BY DORM MICR�LAB (AMI I k-V:l , - Ti: -,'101185 MICROFILMED BY JORM MICROLAB ISLE CEDAR RAPIDS AND UES 11I01NL,�, IUVJA With respect to the problem at Gilbert Street, I do appreciate that this proposal attempts to do more than just improve that intersection. If it were only with respect to that intersection, and this project would solve the problems that exist there, it would be a little bit like chopping down the apple tree to make an apple pie. You can solve the problems with a lot less money. There are other areas of the city with more important problems where the money can be spent. Thank you. Dietz: I think for most of your questions, Mr. White, I'm going to have to look back on the tape to gather them together to respond, but we will try to respond in writing to your questions. It's a matter of opinion, I guess, on any kind of a project, but we do feel that the project, itself, will be of benefit to more than just the intersection, itself. Right now we have approximately 60 feet of right-of-way that exist south of Highway 6 and we predict a real need for the traffic facility south of Highway 6 and the real need for a more than two lane facility. In order to accommodate that there would need to be the potential taking of higher priced property, meaning Gay's Locker and some of the other business facilities along the area. This potential route appears to be more attractive. The left turn lane - the reason we mention that as being a benefit to the project on moving it away - I'll start again -- Moving that intersection away from the railroad track as it crosses Highway 6. We will be moving that approximately 200 feet. That will in fact provide approximately ten car storage on that facility. And I do recognize that sometimes that storage is a higher volume than perhaps ten cars might handle, but when we are all finished, I think we are going to have two through lanes or perhaps a right turn lane, a through lane and a left turn lane, and I believe that with the left turn arrows, etc., I think that you will find that traffic moves out of the intersection a lot faster. We had discussed this project in some detail with Mr. Kroeze, and I do understand his concern for the project. When we first went to him - in fact, the way the plan is drawn out there, it shows a taking from Pleasant Valley of seven feet going up to a maximum of 13 feet. Mr. Kroeze did relate to us that six or seven years ago they moved the building back six feet to accommodate another project like this. We discussed the possibility of eliminating the sidewalk on the west side, and that is the way the project is being proposed tonight so that we could eliminate five feet of that taking. We have not gotten the final design and if there is any way to eliminate problems for both sides of the project, we sure will, and we will work to that end but it just appears right now that two feet will be necessary going up to as much as seven feet on the south end of the Pleasant Valley property. I guess that's all the questions I can recall right now. But once again, we will respond in writing to these questions. Vevera: Is there anyone else who would like to speak to this. Any questions for Mr. Dietz? Perrot: Yes, I do have a question. Gone, was there any discussion at all about the possibility for a three lane street rather than the four lane one? '�� �°� �alcaonuaro sr JORM MICR6LAB fi.UNi IiI1IL , ?i.5 'd0:'I�" i MICROFILMED BY JORM MICROLAB CEDAR RAPIDS AND UES MOINLS, IOdA -11- Dietz: In the nffice - yes. I think that we did discuss a third I:uie. we, in discussing the project, felt that there was a warrant for a fourth lane haled on projected traffic volume. I believe that the projected traffic volume of that area south of Highway G is 11,000 cars. We feel that three lanes would only provide a short term solution. deProsse: Has there - the question raised about the parking, it seems to me - is there a possibility of being able to provide land to the west of the building in order to provide additional parking. I do think that even two feet is going to infringe on the parking at Pleasant Valley. Dietz: That's one of the questions that I couldn't recall. We had discussed this very situation with the State Highway Department. They do own a sizable amount of property in the right-of-way from Highway G, and this is a potential negotiation tool in negotiating for that two feet. I think the Highway Department probably would like to maintain that right-of-way if at all possible, but I think that they are willing to discuss it. Vevera: Are there any other questions? If not, I declare the public meeting closed. BY 111CROMMCD i i DORM MICR+LAB CLOAP. RA: MID, • NLS '101!K 0