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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2007-11-05 Transcription November 5,2007 City Council Wark Session Page 1 November 5, 2007 City Council Work Session 6:15 P.M. Council Present: Bailey, Champion, Correia, Elliott, O'Donnell, Vanderhoef, Wilburn Staff: Karr, Dilkes, Helling, Yapp, Morris, Kopping, Davidson Others Present: Volland, UISG Rep. McCollisterfMormon Trek (lP2 of 11/1 Info Packet): Yapp/ Mayor Wilburn, Members of Council, uh, we had a request from a constituent, uh, property owner on the north side of Mormon Trek Boulevard to change the name of Mormon Trek Boulevard. The initial request was to change the name at Highway 1, uh, from Mormon Trek Boulevard to McCollister Boulevard, east of Highway 1. We did a property owners' survey, uh; four of the six abutting property owners were against the name change. All four of those were west of Dane Road. Uh, we received a subsequent request, uh, from John Dane to change the name of Mormon Trek Boulevard to McCollister Boulevard, east of Dane Road, instead of at old Highway 218, as is currently planned. Uh, the existing street signs show Mormon Trek Boulevard, uh, at Highway 218. It's the intention, currently, that east of old Highway 218 it will change to McCollister Boulevard. The rationale being that's a major, the major north-south entranceway into Iowa City, and a logical place to change the name. There is also some rationale to change the name at Dane Road, because that's where the road goes from a north-south street to predominantly an east-west street. Because this was a constituent, large property owner, uh, of the property abutting this road corridor, urn, we're bringing that to you for your decision. Wilburn! What's the, uh, pleasure of the Council? I thought the alternative was a reasonable compromise. Elliott/ I contend there's nothing logical about changing the name of this street in the middle of the street. It just doesn't.. .have you ever driven, what is it? I90? It's east and west, and then it goes north. They don't change the name. Have you ever driven around Atlanta? They don't change the name. You'd have to have four different streets. It doesn't make sense. Correia! Kirkwood to Lower Muscatine. (several talking) O'Donne11l .. .to Grand. Correia! Can you tell me, who's McCollister? Yapp/ Uh, McCollister, the McCollister farmstead is the.. .the, uh, it's a historic house on the east side of Gilbert Street, just a little bit north of Napoleon Park. Correia! Okay. You can see it. . . This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session meeting of November 5, 2007. November 5, 2007 City Council Wark Session Page 2 Yapp/ ... and was a very large (several talking) Correia! Yeah, okay, gotcha. Yapp/ Very large-property owner, back in the day. Champion! I think the logical place is Highway 218. Vanderhoef/ They actually owned all ofthe land along Sand Road, all the way to Hills. Correia! Okay, so you're saying that we change the name at 218. Yapp/ That's the current, that's the current plan, yes. So that as you go east over the river, it will be McCollister. Elliott/ Why do you want to change the name? You're driving the same street. You don't change streets. Why change the name of the street? Yapp/ I'm not aware of the history, uh, behind the name change decision, but... Elliott/ No, but I mean, does that make sense to you? Yapp/ It makes sense to. . . to change the name of the street where... where the land uses along the street are changing, at a logical point. Elliott/ So you'd change Muscatine when it goes from a residential to a business area. Yapp/ Where Kirkwood and Lower Muscatine. . . Elliott/ No, no. If you change it, based on the use alongside the street, then the street's name would change as it goes through the business district into a residential district.. .because the usage along the street has changed. Again, it makes no sense. Wilburn! Well, ifthere's no.. .ifthere's no strong feeling to change it, I don't know that this was, uh, I didn't anticipate as being that strong a sentiment on Council. (several talking) If I could finish my...if I could finish my sentence, uh, be a reason, a potential reason to do it is, you know, if you are making certain deliveries or if you, just in terms of, you know, the extended, uh, to potentially alleviate any confusion as to which part of, uh, if you're not that familiar with the town or.. .or the addresses, uh, if you want to head off in a direction where... making the wrong guess as to where the address changes or increases, that's one potential (unable to hear). Champion! I say 218. Dee, what do you say? Maybejust... This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session meeting of November 5, 2007. November 5, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 3 Vanderhoef/ I say Highway 1. It needs to change right there, because that is a state highway coming in with, uh, an arterial into town, and if you change it right there at a very large intersection with very large signs that Mormon Trek is going to go to the west off of Highway 1, and to the east you can make it McCollister, which then works, because at some point in time, McCollister may well curve again, clear out on the east end, to go up towards, uh, Hoover Highway, because it's going to be a bypass, so you need to have some consistency for an out-of-towner, who comes in and says, 'Okay, if! want to go west toward the Coralville area and the University area, I'm going to go on Mormon Trek. If I want to go to downtown, I'm going to go east on McCollister and then into town via Gilbert Street. Elliott! And that is consistent? Vanderhoef/ Well, at least. . . Elliott/ Let's not use the word consistent, if you want to change the name.. .I'm driving down Mormon Trek and all of a sudden I'm on McCollister? And I think, what happened? (laughter) Vanderhoef/ The changes are going to happen at that intersection, in my mind, that... uh, South Riverside is...is certainly not a major, major, uh, entrance. I think more and more are using Highway 1, and as soon as this bridge is completed, more and more will use Highway 1 and go across on the bridge, uh, rather than come in from the south, would be my expectation. O'Donnell! Seems a little silly though to be coming in on the highway and say, well, at a stoplight or a stopping point, you either turn left on Mormon Trek or right on McCollister. I agree with Bob on this. I don't like the idea of changing the road, the name. Vanderhoef/ My first preference is to go all Mormon Trek, all the way across... O'Donnell! Well, then we agree. Vanderhoef/ .. .but if we're going to change name at all, then the place to do it is at Highway 1. Wilburn! How many Council Members want to change the name? Or, how many Council Members wish to leave it as Mormon Trek? Vanderhoef/ All Mormon Trek. Wilburn! Elliott, Vanderhoef, O'Donnell. Okay. Urn... This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session meeting of November 5, 2007. November 5, 2007 City Council Wark Session Page 4 O'Donnell/ Well, if we're going to change it, then I think we should change it three times. Just to be.. . (several talking and laughter). Wilburn! Okay, urn, another alternative is, uh, what were you saying. . . Bailey/ What Dee says, if we're going to change the name, makes the most sense to me. Wilburn! At Highway... Bailey/ At Highway 1. Wilburn! .. .at Highway 1. How many wish to change it at Highway I? Correia, Vanderhoef, Wilburn, and Bailey. Helling/ Remember, you.. . that was put to the residents out there and they were.. .the ones that were against it, and that's.. .you elected several weeks ago then to leave it the way it was. I just wanted to remind you that that was put to residents and they did respond. There were four. . . Yapp/ Four of the six property owners objected due to the investments they've made in the Mormon Trek Boulevard name, in advertising and stationary and checkbooks and so forth. O'Donnell/ They were in favor ofleaving it all Mormon Trek? Correia! Just their part. Wilburn! Just their part, and I was... Bailey/ Just their part, untiL.. Wilburn! ... when we first started, I was saying that that alternative, that compromise, seemed to work for both instances, but 1.. . from the initial reaction I didn't sense there was a willingness to do that, but I'll go ahead and ask the question - would there be three others beside myself that would be willing to take... Champion! That's an expensive proposition.. .you're talking about business stationary, envelopes, addresses, internet, business expenses. Just changing your address does not, is not a simple thing to do in a commercial business. Wilburn! So would you support me in the alternative to change at, was it. . . Yapp/ Dane Road. Wilburn! At Dane? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session meeting of November 5, 2007. November 5, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 5 Vanderhoef/ That doesn't make any sense. Champion! That doesn't make any sense to me, because you have it in the middle of the road then. Vanderhoef/ Otherwise I would say change it at Gilbert Street. Wilburn! Okay... Bailey/ Or stick to what we've got, right? Wilburn! Okay, so there aren't three others who were willing to go with the other, uh.. . (several talking).. .well, I guess I'm not quite sure on what you, what you were suggesting, Connie. Champion! Well, isn't by the Airport, isn't that 2l8? Bailey/ Old 218 is what... Correia! That's south... Yapp/ That's the current intention, is to change it at old Highway 218. Correia! So it's.. .at Dane Road is, it's essentially almost a 90 degree turn, by this.. .it's almost as if you're going onto a new street. Isn't it? (laughter) Yapp/ Uh, it's a curve. Correia! It's a curve. Yapp/ It's, yeah, it's not quite a... Bailey/ Let's just keep it the way we have it. Yapp/ It's a, uh, I believe posted 45-mile-per-hour curve, safe to drive at that speed. Wilburn! Okay, I will ask again. How many wish to just leave it as Mormon Trek? Bailey/ The entire way? Wilburn! Well, until... Bailey/2l8? Wilburn! 218. Starting at 218. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session meeting of November 5, 2007. November 5, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 6 Vanderhoef/ Let's call it 960, or South Riverside, because it's not, nobody... Champion! .. . call it South Riverside, call it whatever you want to, Dee. Can we just make a decision on it? Correia! I'm fine with changing it at River. . . Bailey/ As we have planned? Correia! At Riverside. Champion! I am too. O'Donnell! I'm not comfortable changing it at that big curve where it's... Champion! No, but we're talking about 218 now. I mean, I'm sorry. Bailey/ The original plan. Correia! Will there be a light there? Yapp/ Uh, at.. . Correia! .. .at 218, or, South Riverside? Yapp/ As the.. .as the traffic patterns, uh, would warrant a signal, yes. I think it's likely. 1. . .it depends on the pace of development, in that area. Correia! ... well signed that the name.. .I'm fine with that. Wilburn! So at South Riverside? Changing it to McCollister. Is that what you're saying? Champion! That's what I'm saying too. Correia! Yes. Bailey/ Yes, our current plan. Correia! Yeah. Yapp/ I'll get back to Mr. Dane. Wilburn! And I'll go on.. ..that's four. That'll get us moving. Champion! That only took fifteen minutes! (laughter and several talking) This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session meeting of November 5, 2007. November 5,2007 City Council Work Session Page 7 Senior Center Repair/Replacement Proiects (IP3): Helling/ Linda and Kumi are here to answer any questions that you have.. . specific questions. You'll recall that these projects were, uh, part of a larger list that came to you before. Uh, we're doing the restroom projects now. Uh, the reason these are tied together is because of the boiler and chiller project is the, or the coolers on the roof, and so it would make sense if we're going to do that, to do the roof at the same time, both of which are needed. What we're asking you for tonight is, uh, a go ahead to do the engineering, and so that we can find out specifically what needs to be done, and get a good cost projection on that. O'Donnell/ Sounds like a great idea. Bailey/ We don't have a lot of choice, do we? Helling! Um, it sounds like it's.. ..sooner or later, and probably sooner, and... Bailey/ ... very expensive building. Helling/ Yeah, this is the kind of. . .kind of situation where more damage can result to the building if.. .if the roof and the, uh, envelope work isn't done, as I said, sooner rather than later. Vanderhoef/ This is the third time I can remember doing work on the envelope. Helling/ Uh-huh. Vanderhoef/ It is horribly expensive. That's why the Post Office wanted to sell it real fast, real cheap! Wilburn! Any questions for staff? Okay, looks like you've got permission to proceed. Helling/ All right. Oh.. . (unable to hear person speaking away from mic). Morris/ So is that a go-ahead to be able to get consultant services.. . (several responding).. .so we're okay. Establish Le2;islative Priorities (IP4 & IP5): Wilburn! Included in the packet was, urn, samples of what we had had the last one or two times. Vanderhoef/ The new Iowa League. Wilburn! And Dee had submitted the new Iowa League. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session meeting of November 5, 2007. November 5, 2007 City Council Wark Session Page 8 Helling/ The meeting I've scheduled with the Legislators, I think that if other issues come up that you want to, uh, at least mention to them as things of interest to you at that meeting, I think you can do that, but it's nice to have some sort of an agenda to give them, at least the issues that you've all identified as something you want to highlight as your priorities to give them that ahead oftime. Bailey/ And we're going to do this in resolution, right? That's what we've done in the past, so public are on notice about what our priorities are. There was one year. . . Wilburn! Actually, it was the most recent year. Bailey/ Do we intend to do that again? Karr/ You can. You've got one meeting to do it with the sitting Council. You could do it, sure. Bailey/ I think that that's the best transparent way, urn, as we're advocating as a Council, to our State Legislators. (several talking) Karr/ Resolution, just attached.. .we just made it part of what. . . after your discussion, we just confirmed (several talking) after discussion. Correia! Okay, right. Bailey/ I think we should do it that way. Champion! Yeah, I think that's a good idea, Regenia. However, Ijust want to go through the things that Dee gave us. I'm not willing to do a gas and luxury franchise. I don't know how anybody else feels about that, but that just gets billed on the bill to the, urn, customer, and I think that's really the wrong kind of taxation. Elliott! I certainly wouldn't want Iowa City to do it. Vanderhoef/ All it is is to leave the Home Rule choice there. It isn't that we would do it. Champion! Well, I don't want people thinking I'm willing to do it. Dilkes/ Until the Supreme Court's decision, urn, all cities assumed that they had that authority, to do a franchise fee that was a percentage of gross revenues. It's.. .it's an attempt to reverse the Supreme Court's decision, holding that cities did not have Home Rule authority.. .do not have authority to do that. This is attempting to do it. Vanderhoef/ Uh-huh. Just make sure that.. .that it's there. Because it takes a separate vote still of the local to institute a franchise fee.. . like that. So, it's... This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session meeting of November 5, 2007. November 5, 2007 City Council Wark Session Page 9 Correia! I see what you're saying, Connie. Ifwe're talking about it, it's as if we're supporting it, that we would want to do it in our community. And so, it's fine for the Iowa League to be doing it, but we don't necessarily... Vanderhoef/ Well, if you support Home Rule, then you would support this. Champion! No, I wouldn't. I don't support every rule. Vanderhoef/ Well, in concept, to keep as broad, uh, spectrum of what cities can do, rather than turn it back over to... Champion! I understand what you're saying, but I'm not putting my name on something I don't support. I don't care who it's for. Elliott/ It doesn't seem to make sense that we would want to push for something that we don't support. Dilkes/ It was one of your Legislative priorities in 2006. Vanderhoef/ Uh-huh. Champion! It was? Correia! Yeah, it was on our list, but we don't need to do it this year. (several talking) Yeah, it was (several talking) Vanderhoef/ It was part of the. . . the Home Rule issue, not because we were choosing to do it. Bailey/ I would like to maintain this in... the option to increase the Hotel/Motel Tax (several talking) and I spoke with the Board today. We had a retreat, and good support from the Board, so if we would like to keep that on, I would like to... Correia! And I'm interested in keeping on the Iowa State Housing Trust Fund Appropriation. (several responding) Bailey/ The one thing too with this economic development initiatives, and as you know, I'm on the Vision Iowa Board, but 1...I would like us to support, urn, preserving and expanding the economic development initiatives provided by Vision Iowa, Iowa Great Places and Community Attractions, particularly since we think we'll be applying for something. Champion! I don't have any problems with that. Bailey/ Okay. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session meeting of November 5, 2007. November 5, 2007 City Council Wark Session Page 10 Wilburn! Well, if we want to (laughter) better (unable to understand). Bailey/ What did you say? Wilburn! Ifwe want to apply for the money, we better, uh... Bailey/ Support.. . support it! Elliott! That would appear to make sense. Vanderhoef/ I think keeping the pressure on. . .on, uh, Home Rule for smoking in public places is one that I suspect this Council would, uh, continue to support. Champion! Yes! (several responding) Correia! And we already passed the resolution. Vanderhoef/ And the Vehicle Tax on pickups is part of the, uh, Time-2l Study recommendations, but somehow to. . . to bring out the fact that we need to continue to support, uh, infrastructure kinds of activities, including these for, uh, roads, I think, is very, very important. Certainly, the water, wastewater, is equally important. Uh, we've bitten the bullet in Iowa City... Elliott/ Dee, tell me... tell me again of what you are talking about. The pickup tax? You want it off, or do you want to leave it? Leave the... Vanderhoef/ I want to change it so they pay their fair share. Elliott! Oh, good, good, 'cause that's an outdated concept. V anderhoef/ Yes. Wilburn! So leave it is what you're saying. Elliott! Uh-huh. Correia! Was there anything.. .was there... Vanderhoef/ No... Elliott! No, don't leave it. Vanderhoef/ .. .leave it on the... Elliott! Yes, yes. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session meeting of November 5, 2007. November 5, 2007 City Council Work Session Page II Vanderhoef/ ... priorities list. Correia! Was there any legislation introduced last year? About this? Wilburn! I thought it was introduced...I don't know ifit made it past... Vanderhoef/ On the pickup tax? It was introduced in one spot, and I can't remember whether it was the House or the Senate, but, uh, basically what the, the Legislature was waiting for was the, uh, total package in time to talk about the total package. That study came back in in January, and they wanted to work on several of those things in the package, because they have a goal of200,000...or $200 million a year for the next twenty years, which actually isn't going to be enough, and so there needs to be some other, 00, revenues besides increasing licensings and some of those things. One of the things that.. .that, uh, in this talk about Time-2l, as you realize it only addresses, uh, roads. It does not - roads and bridges - it doesn't, uh, do anything for, uh, rail, and I think we need to get ahead of the curve and uh, be looking for some, uh, funding from the State Legislature for rail. Uh, the Illinois Legislature is looking at this. They're looking at this Amtrak, they have the five-spoke kind of Amtrak coming out of Chicago, and they are getting ready to, uh, look at putting large dollars to complete it to the, the Mississippi River, and one of those two routes is...is slated to come through Iowa City, on to Des Moines and then on to Omaha, and certainly we need to stay on top of that one with State funding to put in there, because certainly the cities are not going to be able to afford it on their own. Uh, the other piece that I still, uh, am very excited about and think we need to keep working on is the Crandic Rail, and so that's a startup in a rail, a passenger rail situation for, uh, our local community to get ahead of the curve. Certainly we are near gridlock on 380 and when we look at the cost of, uh, starting up Crandic at $70 million versus $400 million to add two more lanes on 380, it makes sense to me to... Champion! 380, who's going to add two more lanes on 380? Vanderhoef/ Well, that's what it's going to take, if the gridlock is...is achieved in there. They're looking at it. The money is not going to be coming from the Peds for quite a long time... Champion! Amazing! Vanderhoef/ .. .we could start up, uh, rail certainly between Iowa City and expand it as the ridership grows. Wilburn! I've spoken a couple times with the Amtrak representative that's doing that. . . that study, and it would be helpful ifthere were some activity in the Iowa Legislature related to rail, so (several talking). This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session meeting of November 5,2007. November 5, 2007 City Council Work Session Page l2 Bailey/ I talked to one of our Legislators, urn, about some energy efficiency things that are going to be happening, hopefully, this next session, and one of the things that I think that we could support as a City is some uniformity, urn, from the utility programs that promote energy-efficient appliances. I think we heard that in the franchise discussion, that there's a lot of disparity between the programs, and that if the Legislature would step in and perhaps have some third-party administration that we could really make some advances. I mean, that's a.. .that's a fund that the companies pay into, apparently, and some consistency, I think, would be beneficial to our citizens. So 1'd like to add that to something that is a priority for us, ifthere is interest from other people. Champion! Yes, you're right about that. I think the other really important thing, we don't seem to get anything on and nobody seems to want to help is this condo property tax situation. Um, that's... Bailey/ Our lobby isn't as strong as their lobby. Champion! Amazing! Vanderhoef/ Well, it's a property tax issue that they're well aware of at the State House, and haven't been willing to change, but if this, uh, interim study, uh, for property tax reform, that's where we have to stay on top of it, and. . . and keep lobbying at that table, to be sure that we're heard, that we need those revenues. Bailey/ And then another economic development, urn, program is increasing the funding for micro enterprise development in the state, that passes through from the State to the cities. That's something I know, urn, DED is working on right now, but I think we should also encourage our Legislators to support that. I think we would benefit and I think that that would be a good thing, particularly for Iowa City. Correia! And then, let's also piggyback on that is there's efforts to expand the State's Earned Income Tax Credit refundable credit, and they.. .they're able to do a small amount this year, but there's efforts to do more, and then that impacts our locaL.. Wilburn! Yeah, yeah, it does. Correia! .. .to have cash back in their pocket, urn, be able to cover some of those basic needs, uh, on a very low income. Wilburn! Are you okay with that? Bailey/ Oh, yeah, definitely. Wilburn! Okay, looks like a go. V olland/ 1'd like to see the wrongful retention of landlord deposits stay on, as well. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session meeting of November 5, 2007. November 5, 2007 City Council Wark Session Page 13 Elliott! You bet! V olland/ Because I know that the students are planning on, and have already started talking to Legislators about it, so I'd like to see it kind of a partnership. (several talking) Elliott/ We put that on last year, and I think that was a good thing. Champion! I thought it passed too! V olland/ Not that I'm aware of, no. I think that they added amendments to kill it. Wilburn! I remember it being introduced, but uh... Vanderhoef/ Uh-huh, it was introduced. Champion! It's probably a strong lobby, too. Volland/ It is a very strong lobby (several talking). Champion! I think if we had term limits, those lobbyists wouldn't be so important. (several talking) Vanderhoef/ Uh.. . for certain, we want to stay on top of maintaining local control over cable franchising. Uh, I think that one is terribly important. Helling! That concept is, we would support it; however, we wouldn't do well at all last year. Vanderhoef/ I know! And.. . and I think we have to stay on it. Helling/ I think that, well, unless there's leg.. . counter-legislation introduced or whatever, it's.. .the utilities pretty much won. How 'bout tax restructuring? Vanderhoef/ Just the total package. Helling/ The general. . . V anderhoef/ Yeah! Helling/ .. . concept, yeah. The rollback and all that. Vanderhoef/ That certainly is.. .is, uh, covered. One of the, uh, ones that, uh, I think since we have a professional, uh, police and firefighter group, uh, the pensions control, what's been happening there is when, uh, remember some of you were This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session meeting of November 5,2007. November 5, 2007 City Council Work Session Page l4 still on Council when we were still using up the remainder of our self-funded, uh, pensions fund for the City of Iowa City, and at the time that that was brought in, and the State took it over and said we had to, uh, pay into a State fund, the State Legislature was going to fund part ofthat. Well, in the early years, with high interest rates, they didn't have any problem, uh, keeping the fund solvent. That's not true, and that's what we've been paying dearly for, that we get the extra bill every year now to keep that fund solvent. In the meantime, the State Legislature has not put any new monies into that, and they are not even paying up to the percent that they said that they would pay when they took over the fund. So, uh, there's a lot of push by the large cities in Iowa to, uh, keep that high priority to push the Legislature to do their fair share of helping fund the, uh, pension plans for our professional firefighters and police officers. And certainly not to give any new benefits to those groups, until the fund is fully funded. Wilburn! My understanding was...J think that's fine to keep (unable to understand) fair share. My understanding, this year because of some good investments it's not as, not as bad as... Helling! There is some good news. Uh, the floor, there is no floor set at 17%, I believe, urn, and it started out there. Went to the high-20's. Started down a little bit. This year we found out it's going down to l8...I think it's 18.75. So a dramatic decrease. Now that's obviously because the fund is making more interest income and so forth, so that's nothing that's guaranteed for the future, but at least for this year, it's gone down considerably. Vanderhoef/ And interest rates are going down again, so... Helling/ ...it may take the other.. .. Vanderhoef/ It's pretty apt to go, start moving back up on us, of what we have to pay in because it won't be totally funded. Bailey/ You should probably take (unable to understand). I would like an update on historic tax credits. I know I asked for a cultural trust update last year, but I would like.. .because I understand that they're encumbered pretty far out, and I think we should get a report. I think that would be something good. Wilburn! Okay. Urn, we also don't want our list to get so long that we don't make it through the... Bailey/ And that's not necessarily a priority. I just wanted a report. Council Appointments: Wilburn! All right. (several talking) This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session meeting of November 5, 2007. November 5,2007 City Council Work Session Page 15 Champion! No, there's two. There's three actually. O'Donnell/ Looks like John Roffman on Board of Appeals, Jay Honohan, Senior Center; and Michelle Han on Youth Advisory Committee. Elliott/ Three openings, three candidates, they all look good. O'Donnell! Yeah! (several responding) Wilburn! All right. So we'll make it so. A2enda Items: Karr/ Do you want to, you've got also the, urn, Human Services, Aid to Agencies, three people. (several talking) Vanderhoef/ You and Connie did it last year. Connie and I had done it couple of years. (several talking) F (several talking) Karr/ .. .or wait until the formal. It's "F." Wilburn! I can't...I can't do it. Karr/ I know, and it can wait, I'm just trying to. .. Bailey/ I'm willing to do it again. Champion! Well, I am too, but... Bailey/ .. .no longer working for United Way, so... Champion! Maybe we shouldn't.. .wait till the new Council's in place. (several talking) Karr/ You can't. Champion! Oh, we can't. Karr/ You won't.. .well, you can if you wish to start the ground running right away. Last year you made your recommendations January 22nd. Champion! Okay, okay. Well, Mike, do you want to do it? O'Donnell! I've done it before. Has anybody here not done it? Champion! That's not going to be here. Well, you can't and Amy can't. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session meeting of November 5, 2007. November 5, 2007 City Council Work Session Page l6 Correia! I'd rather not. Champion! And, urn, our friend won't be here. Elliott/ Oh, you called me a friend! I'm so... O'Donne1ll Slip of the tongue! (laughter) Bailey/ Well, we could wait until our next meeting. We certainly know who else could do it. O'Donne1ll Let's wait until the next meeting. Karr/ You want to defer it? Champion! But it needs to be done before... Karr/ Yeah, but by the 2ih of November. O'Donnell! We'll know. Good idea, and I would be glad to do it again. Wilburn! Other agenda items? Vanderhoef/ Ijust, Jeffprobably can answer this, uh, in the recycling report, urn, there was.. . staff is researching the potential for single stream curbside recycling. Does that mean integrated? Davidson! I would guess it, I would guess that that means, uh, what we've called co- mingled in the past? Single-stream, and then it's sorted... Vanderhoef/ That's what I was afraid of. Davidson! You take it to City Carton and they sort it, and there's of course a price differential for that, but it's considered easier for the consumer. Correia! Is that...I think Jennifer has presented it that we're kind of at a plateau with the number of households that participate in curbside, and there's a belief that we get higher numbers... Wilburn! I thought there was a.. .I thought there was a major. . .I thought the Council discussed this, maybe around budget time, and if I remember right, there was a majority of Council that wanted to at least get some information about (several responding). Bailey/ .. . considering I didn't do recycling today, because I don't know how. That'd be good. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session meeting of November 5, 2007. November 5, 2007 City Council Work Session Page 17 Champion! Ijust go to City Carton. (several talking) Wilburn! Other agenda items? O'Donnell! What was that, Jeff, was that co-mingled? Champion! Sounds different. Wilburn! Just throw it in the bucket. Champion! I don't know. I don't.. .hard to do. I have so much recycling I couldn't possibly fit it in one of those blue containers anyway. Correia! I overflow mine. I have other containers. I put it around. They pick it up! Wilburn! Other agenda items? V anderhoef/ You can get a second blue container if you want to. O'Donnell/ I already got one. They stole mine. Wilburn! Any other agenda items, or do you want to take a quick break instead? (several talking) Vanderhoef/ Nothing that can't wait. Karr/ Adjourned or not? Wilburn! Uh, we're done. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session meeting of November 5, 2007.