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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2002-10-22 Transcription#3 Page 1 ITEM 3 O[ITSTANDING STUDENT CITIZENSHIP AWARDS - Grant Wood Elementary. Lehman: Item number 3 is Outstanding Student Citizenship Awards and this is the first one of these for the fall. This is the time that's really kind of special. We don't have these during the summer. So I'd like to ask the folks from Grant Wood Elementary to come forward. You guys all have grandpas don't you? You're just up here with your grandpa. So just relax and take it easy. My granddaughter smiles like that when she sees me too. What I'd like you to do is give your name and why you are thought nominated for this award. Because you have good grades and stuff. I'1i bet you do too. Emily Panther: (Can't hear) says I do good in school. Lehman: Would you like to read that? No, you have something to read there don't you? Ah, let's read it. Let's tell everybody about it. Panther: (Reads statement). Keryth Gadson: (Reads statement). Ben Riley: (Reads statement). Kyle Tester: (Reads statement). Thank you for this honor. Lehman: Do you guys know what a teacher by the name of Jan Gringko or Jan Lehman? You do? Do you know who she is? She's my daughter-in- law. And she is probably one of the sweetest ladies I have ever known. And you better be good to her because I think she can be ornery. Anyway, I'm very proud of her. This is the time we really enjoy on the Council. And I, you know, I'm sure that most of these parents and grandparents and folks listening kind of deep down wish that we could have said what these kids are saying. You guys are very special and we're very proud to give you these awards. And that's true especially for your parents and I know for your grandparents. So let me get you the awards. Kyle. Tester: Thanks. Lehman: And Ben, Keryth, and then I'm going to read what each of these say: "For outstanding qualities of leadership within Grant Wood Elementary as well as the community and for sense of responsibility and helpfulness to others, we recognize these students as Outstanding Student Citizens. Your community is proud of you. Presented by the Iowa City City Council." And you be sure to tell Jan who gave them to you. Okay? Thank you. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #4 Page 2 ITEM 4 CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED OR AMENDED. Lehman: (Reads item). Champion: Move adoption. O'Donnell: Second. Lehman: Moved by Champion, seconded by O'Donnell. Discussion? Karmer: A few things Ernie. Lehman: Okay. Kanner: In public hearing there's one in particular I wanted to mention number e(4) intent to convey vacated parts of Front and Harrison etc. to U of I. I had a question for the City Attorney. It said because it's a public institution we're not required to get monetary compensation for that. Can we get monetary compensation if we like? Holecek: I don't think that the statute prohibits you from getting compensation. It allows you to convey it without compensation. Kanner: Okay. So the intent is to convey it without getting compensation which I thought we were talking about getting compensation at the time. Lehman: Well we weren't, but I don't think this indicates that we're...that our intent...it does say without compensation. But we... Kanner: Yeah. I thought that changed. Weren't we talking about getting compensation at one time? Champion: No. Lehman: Not on this one. In fact I think it was specifically indicated that we between gover~maental units that transfer of property generally was without compensation. Kanner: Okay. I thought I heard something differently earlier in the discussion. But hopefully people will come up with their thoughts on this whether it is a good idea to convey it at all and to do it for no monetary compensation at this time. And then did want to mention a couple other things. I had a question for Steve. We had a correspondence about some sewer problems from Steve Thayer number g (2). This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #4 Page 3 Atkins: That's correct. Karmer: Can you explain what's happening and what's the correspondence was about and what has been done about it? Atkins: We are working on it. I really cant' tell you a whole heck of a lot more than that. We're been exchanging letters. We've have several letters I believe in the packet concerning the issue. Lehman: We have copies of those. Atkins: Yeah. Andas soon as we have a resolution to the issue I'll prepare a report for you. I really don't know much more than that right now. Kanner: Okay. Thanks. And then finally we had a letter again in correspondence this was g (4) from David Baldus and from George Woodworth. I thought it was noteworthy and wanted to make mention of the response to Dr. West's letter regarding the police stop study. And I would tend to agree with the letter. Just to quote briefly from it, "Dr. West's letter simply does not address the issue of whether race was a factor in the initial traffic stops. It is for this reason that the claim of the Police Chief and others of the Louisville study demonstrates that race is not a factor in the initial decisions to stop motorists has no support whatever in that study and is a complete misrepresentation of what it does contain." So it doesn't say one way or another. And I think we should make note of that and continue to explore this issue. Lehman: Any other discussion? Roll call. Motion carries. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #5 Page 4 ITEM 5 PUBLIC DISCUSSION Lehman: Item 5 is public discussion. This is the time reserved on the agenda for the public to address issues that do not otherwise appear on the agenda. If you wish to address the Council, sign in, give your name and limit your comments to five minutes or less. John Dane: My name is John Dane. I live at 4082 Dane Road SC, Iowa City, Iowa. I'm here to talk about the closing of Dane Road. (Reads statement). Lehman: Thank you, John. Kanner: Thanks, John. I appreciate your remarks. Dane: Do you answer questions? Lehman: Not during public discussion really. Dane: Okay. Karr: Motion to accept correspondence. O'Dormell: So moved. Vanderhoef: So moved. Lehman: Moved by O'Donnell, seconded by Vanderhoef to accept correspondence. All in favor? Opposed? Motion carries. Julie Spears: Good evening. My name is Julie Spears. I'm a member of the Johnson County Local Homeless Coordinating Board. The Local Homeless Coordinating Board is recognized statewide as the designated body to initiate, address, and coordinate policy at the local level with the goal of to eliminate homelessness in Johnson County. Members of this board represent over 30 local service agencies that address the needs of housing and the homeless in our community. Some of these agencies include the Greater Iowa City Housing Fellowship which that's whom I'm working for, the VA Hospital, the Crisis Center, HACAP, MECCA, the Iowa Coalition Against Domestic Violence, the Iowa City Housing Authority, EHP just to name a few. And also staff from the Iowa City Planning Department and JCCOGS attend the monthly meeting regularly. Recently the Board decided to address the Council on a more regular basis and this is the first of such occasions. The Board recently established three policy and planning subcommittees - the ABCs of affordable housing. Those are called the access additional funding sources, build more This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #5 Page 5 affordable housing and create opportunities for housing stability. These subcommittees have been meeting regularly to work out concrete strategies to achieve these goals. And we would like to work with the Council on these issues, encourage Council members to attend meetings as some have, and ask Council to keep the Local Homeless Coordinating Board in mind as a partner when addressing housing policy in Iowa City. In future months members of this Board will keep Council informed of our progress and opportunities for the Local Homeless Coordinating Board to work together to serve the housing needs of our residents. The Local Homeless Coordinating Board meets monthly on the second Wednesday of the month here at Harvat Hall. The next meeting will be on November 13th at 10:00 a.m. and if you have any questions please contact Candice Peters at MECCA. She's the Chair of the Local Homeless Coordinating Board. Thank you. Lehman: Thank you. Kanner: Julie can you submit some sort of agenda monthly to our Clerk and that would be in our packet? Spears: Sure. We'll ask Candice to get that forwarded to your packet. Thanks. Kanner: Thank you. Jay Honohan: Jay Honohan again from the Senior Center Commission. As the eternally optimist tonight I have good news to report. If you haven't already heard the Board of Supervisors has tentatively committed 11% of our '04 budget of the Senior Center. That meeting was last Thursday so Linda and I didn't get a chance to prepare the memorandum in time to get it out in your packet, but I have a memorandum here a copy for Marian outlining the results of that meeting. Basically I can say that the entire Board is committed to funding as far as I can tell between $70,000 and $75,000 towards the Senior Center budget. And by the way the Commission approved the recommended budget which is being submitted to Steve at our last meeting and I'm happy to report that it's less than last year and less than we actually spent. I'm sure you'll be happy to hear that too. The Board of Supervisors is also...discussed I should say - discussed a new 28E agreement and will be looking forward to meeting with them on that. And I'm hoping to get some sort of a five year agreement that it gives them a commitment for five years. At the present time the majority - I can't say all of the Board members - appear to want to base their participation on the funding on the number of rural residents who are participants and that comes out to about 11% at this time. One or two members have talked about usage. We may be exploring that. The Staff and I will be looking and the Commission will be This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. //5 Page 6 looking at that in the near future. I think that I would prefer and I think the Commission prefers a participant method because that takes in availability and it doesn't address - for instance you have it available all year long maybe you only use it once or twice, but it is available and I think the County should fund on that basis. I don't intend to read you that long memorandum. Linda did a very accurate job and I think that represents everything that happened. Linda and I discussed today we're making plans to meet with the Coralville people in the very near future to see if we can get funding from them. And I remain the eternal optimist on that too. Thank you very much. Champion: Thank you Jay. Lehman: Thank you Jay. Do we have a motion to accept... O'Donnell: So moved. Vanderhoefi Second. Lehman: Moved by O'Donnell, seconded by Vanderhoef. All in favor? Opposed? Motion canies. Michelle Robnett: Good evening. I'm Michelle Robnett and I'm here tonight with Alan Ellis to represent the Airport Commission. I just want to do a brief update of some of the things that we have in the works and where things are going. Based on some recommendations from the City Staff and the City Manager we will begin setting goals for the next fiscal year and probably for the next future years for probably approximately 10 and strategic planning and business planning in November of this year. We're coordinating with a consulting firm and the firm has agreed to combine a strategic and business plan. We know we need to get something together and get it up and get it there in place pretty quickly. We've completed our fiscal 2004 budget request in planning which included some budget needs for the airport and business consultants and we also have looked to grant funding that's available through the Department of Transportation at the Federal level to fund similar kinds of projects that have happened in the United States. And I don't know that they require matching funds, but we will include that if they do. We've made initial plans as to how many meetings and how many different kinds of community groups that we're going to solicit input from and users as well as business and the hospital here in town. And we plan to begin in the beginning of November. So, any questions, comments? Lehman: (Can't hear). O' Donnell: Thank you. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #5 Page 7 Kanner: I had a question for you. Robnett: Yeah. Kanner: Are you looking at fundraisers like we have the Animal Shelter has a fundraising group? Perhaps some of the airplane owners would like to take part in fundraising opportunities. Robnett: That's actually not in and of itself actually I've done fundraising as a job, but that is one of the things that we'll consider on the master plan. Baron Thrower and myself are the subcommittee organizing the strategic plan and we did actually the two of us discuss whether or not there should be a Friends of the Iowa City Airport kind of group. So not specifically because in and of itself fundraising without a strategic plan would be kind of an empty kind of process. Kanner: But that might be part of the strategic plan is to form one of those? Robnett: Definitely. Definitely. Anything else? Thanks very much. Lehman: Thank you. Champion: Thank you. Bob Bums: My name is Bob Burns from 319 East Washington Street. I'd like to be able to provide you with some additional information tonight that might be useful for you as you consider item number 11 the FY03 action plan. Lehman: That's when you need to bring it up. Bums: I'd be glad to wait till then. Lehman: That's when you...yeah we'll let you do that. Okay? Bums: Thanks. Lehman: Any other public discussion on items that do not appear on the agenda? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #6c Page 8 ITEM 6c PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS. Consider an ordinance changing the zoning designation from Low- Density Multi-Family (RM-12) to Sensitive Areas Overlay Low- Density Multi-Family (OSA-12) on 1.06 acres to allow a 14-unit multi-family building located on the west side of First Avenue south of Stuart Court. (Second Consideration) Lehman: (Reads item). Champion: Move second consideration. O'Donnel!: Second. Lehman: We've been asked to expedite this. O'Donnell: Go ahead. Vanderhoef: I move that the rule requiring that ordinances must be considered and voted on for passage at two Council meetings pr/or to the meeting at which it is to be finally passed be suspended. That the second consideration and vote be waived and that the ordinance be voted on for final passage at this time. Champion: Second. Lehman: Moved by Vanderhoef, seconded by Champion. Discussion? Do we know why this is being asked for expedition? I think someone is here to tell us. Yes? Paula Streeper: Hi. I'm Pollard Streeper. I'm one of the owners of the project. We started back in May with Planning and Zoning and it took several months - a lot longer than what we thought it was going to take to have Planning and Zoning approve our plan. We worked with them and now we're up to this point and pretty soon building season is going to be...we're going to need to be getting started. So we're hoping that this two week period would help us out a little bit in that. O'Dormell: Fine. Lehman: But your concern is being able to get started because of weather. Streeper: Yeah. We'd like to get started before the snow hits. Lehman: Okay. Wilbum: That might be Wednesday. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #6c Page 9 Streeper: It might be soon. Lehman: Significant snow perhaps or ground freezing. Streeper: So if you have any questions we have our contract here too. Lehman: Are there any questions for her relative to the request for expediting? O'Donnell: No. No. Lehman: Fine. Thank you. Streeper: Thank you. Lehman: Discussion part of Council. All in favor of expediting...no roll call. Now that is a 5-1 vote. It fails. Holecek: It fails due to the 2/3 requirement for collapsation. Two-thirds. We have more than two-thirds. Holecek: Three-quarters. Excuse me. Karr: We need six to collapse. Lehman: Wait a minute, you need six out of seven. Champion: We only have six people Ernie. Lehman: If you have six. Holecek: Let me do some math. Lehman: Do that. Kanner: Is it those present or the total number? Champion: (Can't hear), Lehman: That is over three-fourth. So it passes. O'Donnell: I think we'd better check that again. Lehman: Three-quarters of six is 4 ½. Kanner: Ernie the question is: Is it the number (can't hear) or those present. Lehman: Number present I believe. Champion: Number of people voting. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #6c Page 10 Lehman: Will you check that? Kanner: They're going to find that out. Yeah five is 75, but (can't hear). Champion: It passes. Wilbum: He was in the building earlier today. O'Donnell: That's amazing. Lehman: Steven if you want to change your vote we won't have to look this up. Karmer: Emie you can feel free to...actually you said for ones who have some aspect of controversial nature you'd be willing to...you think it's important to do all three votes. You've said that in the past. Lehman: Them was no one. Katmer: There's some controversy to this. Lehman: What was the controversy? Champion: 16%. HoIecek: Mr. Mayor it is three-fourth of all the members of the Council. Lehman: Not those present. Holecek: Correct. Lehman: Okay. Motion to expedite fails. O'Donnell: Sorry. Lehman: Do we have a motion to... Wilbum: Move second consideration. Lehman: We have a motion by Wilbum. Vanderhoef: Second. Lehman: Seconded by Vanderhoef for second consideration. Discussion? RolI call. Motion carries, Kanner voting in the negative. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #6i Page 11 ITEM 6i PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS. Consider a letter to the Johnson County Board of Supervisors recommending approval of a rezoning from Al, Agricultural, to CP2, Planned Commercial for 54.8 acres located south of Herbert Hoover Highway and west of Interstate 80 subject to conditions pertaining to traffic improvements and sanitary sewer treatment. (CZ02-012) Lehman: (Reads item). Champion: Move the resolution. Wilbura: Move that we send the letter to the County Supervisors. Lehman: Moved by Wilburn, seconded by Champion. Discussion? Karmcr: Karin I had a question for you. Do we know what the corn suitability rating was for this land on this? Franklin: No. Kanner: Okay. And was this property on the County's...before the fringe area agreement they've set aside some property for rezoning, some for residential and so forth, was this on their original map for rezoning of commemial? Franklin: I don't...I'm sorry I don't know what you're referring to. Kanner: The County has a map for instance for residential what is appropriate for residential rezoning - agricultural land to residential. Franklin: Aside from the fringe agreement? Kanner: Aside from the fringe...well I think it's incorporated perhaps into the fringe area. Franklin: Okay the fringe agreement sets out policies for each of the areas. And in this particular area this area is shown as appropriate for commercial development and it was something that the City agreed to and with the County and is part of the 28E agreement. Kanner: I think Dee is probably right in their comp plan they have areas set aside where they're going to have future residential and future commercial. Was this part of their comp plan to have this originally? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #6i Page 12 Franklin: I don't know. When we evaluate it, we evaluate in the context of our fringe agreement with them. I presume when they do their evaluations at their level they look at their comprehensive plans and they look at things like CSR then. When we do our evaluation we look at the fringe agreement - whether it's consistent with the fringe agreement or not. Lehman: I believe Karin, if I'm not mistaken Steven, we had a rather extensive discussion on that fringe agreement relative to which areas would be shown on the fringe agreement as commercial or not. This was shown as commercial in our fringe agreement. Franklin: Correct. Lehman: Okay. So it is consistent with our agreement with the County and also with what they have or what they propose for that property. Franklin: That's correct. Yes. Lehman: Okay. Vanderhoef: And they've tried to expand it and...the commercial part of it and that's where it didn't agree with our 28E. Franklin: Right and then we have stated so. Vanderhoef: And we denied it. Kanner: Thank you. Lehman: Any other discussion? This is just a voice vote is it not? All in favor of signing the letter say aye. Opposed same sign. Motion carries. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #9c Page 13 ITEM 9c $10,6000,000 GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING BONDS, SERIES 2002 c. CONSIDER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE OF $10,600,000 GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS AND LEVYING A TAX TO PAY SAID BONDS. Lehman: (Reads item). O'Donnell: So moved Champion: Second. Lehman: Moved by O'Donnell, seconded by Champion. Discussion? Kanner: I had a question for Kevin. Lehman: Yes. Kanner: Since we're pretty good risk in investment if someone wants to invest in our City through these bonds do they...how do they do it? Do they just go to their stock broker and ask for Iowa City bonds? Kevin O'Malley: Yes. Either their stock broker or their local financial agent they have a retail market for our bonds - a very good market by the way. So they're readily available. Kanner: Thank you. Lehman: Any other discussion? Roll call. Motion carries. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #11 Page 14 ITEM 11 CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ADOPTING IOWA CITY'S AMENDED FY03 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, THAT IS A PART OF IOWA CITY'S 2001-2006 CONSOLIDATED PLAN (CITY STEPS, AUTItORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT SAID PLAN AND ALL NECESSARY CERTIFICATIONS TO THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, AND DESIGNATING THE CITY MANAGER AS THE AUTHORIZED CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER FOR THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN. Wilbum: Excuse me, Emie. Lehman: Yes. Wilbum: On Item 11 I will be abstaining due to a conflict of interest or the appearance of a conflict of interest as I'm employed by an organization that receives funding through the process and the fund. Lehman: Thank you. (Reads item). Vanderhoef: Move the resolution. O'Donnell: Second. Lehman: Moved by Vanderhoef, seconded by O'Donnell. Discussion? Bob Bums: Good evening. My name is Bob Bums from 318 East Washington Street. And I would like to update you with some information I've put together on the comparison on the cost of duplex lots. This is an update of our project at this point in time regarding the FY03 funding request for housing projects. The first item as a point of reference the Burns & Bums application back when this process started was the worst case scenario and at that time we had budgeted and shown in our application 5 lots at $100,000 per duplex lot. And we stated at that time that there are duplex lots in Iowa City that sell very close to that amount, but that we would do our best if we were funded to acquire lots at a lower cost and that would effect our per cost per unit figure in the budget. So the second item on the list is the Bums & Bums actual average purchase price. We've purchased 7 lots at an average price of $39,085 on scattered sites, There are not two duplexes...there are not more than two duplexes next to each other in two areas of town which would be in two separate elementary school districts. So that in the terms of our resources that's $273,000 of the $300,000 that you allocated to our project at the begirming of this process. The...just for This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #11 Page 15 comparison the third item on our handout to you is the purchase price of the Greater Iowa City Housing Fellowship and CITY application that you're considering along with our request for additional funds tonight on this item. And as you can see their purchase price is $45,000 per lot for 10 lots or a total of $450,000. I thought this was a good time to point out to you that when you allocate funds to us we put them to good use. We pumhase duplex lots at $61,000 less than what our budget was and that's money that is unused. If there were funds available we could have purchased more lots. We stopped at seven lots because that's all we were allocated. But I wanted to point that out to you for future reference and for your consideration tonight in your decision of where to allocate the City's resources. Any questions? I'd be glad...I'd be happy to answer them tonight. Vanderhoef: I just commend you on finding the lots at these prices. Bums: Well in negotiating the price too. I thank you very much. We appreciate the compliment. Duplex lots are in short supply in Iowa City and...so it's difficult to purchase them at the lower prices. Vanderhoef: Thank you. Bums: Anybody else? Champion: Well I appreciate this scattered. Good job. Kanner: I have a question for Steve Nasby. How does this affect the figures that we were given before about per cost units, subsidizing and so forth for Bums versus the proposed GICHF/CITY... (End of Tape #02-83, Beginning of Tape #02-84) Nasby: Let's see. Let me look it up here. The application...I need to ask Bob a question. The application you resubmitted the new one does that have the new figures in it or the old figure in it? Okay. The... Lehman: Well Steve while... Nasby: Yeah the total costs they're looking at let's see 16 units for 2.85 million is what the application is... Karmer: This is the Bums? Nasby: Yes. This was the application which came out to a total per bedroom cost of $57,000 because that's how you would ask that we break it down so we broke it down that way. And on the Greater Iowa City Housing Fellowship/Housing Authority application it works out to total cost per bedroom of $44,856. So if Bob's new figures are in here This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #11 Page 16 that's the number, if it's his old figures... Kanner: You're saying even with the new figures - let's assume they're the new figures at $39,000 lot the bedroom for Bums is $57,000 for the proposed, the recommended one for GICHF is $44,000 per bedroom. Nasby: That's according to the applications they've submitted that's correct. So it isn't all in the land cost although that obviously plays a significant portion of it. Kauner: And Mr. Burns had said he would...I think maybe he said he would change his length of accessibility to lower income for these units to a greater period of time. Vanderhoef: The length of the loan. Kanner: The length of the loan? Vanderhoef: Yeah. Kanner: What is GICHF guaranteeing? Nasby: Mary Ann do you want to answer that? Kanner: And is there a significant difference in that between the two organizations? Mary Ann Dennis: Well the Housing Fellowship as a non-profit corporation is willing to accept the term of affordability for the life of the property as long as the Housing Fellowship owns the land under the owner-occupied units which the lease on those units would be 99 years and that's renewable for another 99 years. For the rental units it would be as long as - excuse me - as long as the Housing Fellowship owns the property - hopefully forever. We never plan to sell. Kanner: So you're doing land trust with the ownership - you're planning to sell the housing and keep the land and lease it out for 99 years? Dennis: Right. This is a mixed use project. The application is for the land acquisition. The plan is to build three duplex buildings for a total of six rental units and then 14 owner-occupied units. Karmer: And do you plan to sell those as soon as possible or start out with a lease for those 14 and then eventually work to... Dennis: Well the 14 owner-occupied units are divided between the Housing Authority and the Housing Fellowship. The way that the Housing Fellowship structures are the way that we structure our affordable This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #11 Page 17 home ownership program is a land trust so that we do have the leased land. The Housing Authority has a little bit different structure to offer home buyers choice in how they can pumhase homes. Kanner: But for the 14 that you're planning to sell the houses - whether you sell the land or not through the land trust - do you plan to start off with them being renter occupied and then move to sell... Dennis: No. Kanner: ...or right away you're going to sell them. Dennis: Correct. Kanner: Okay. Dennis: And that was acceptable to the neighborhood. Karmer: That's what I think they wanted some... Dennis: That mix of numbers of units. Pardon? Kanner: They wanted some of that actually. Dennis: Correct Kanner: That's what they were asking for. Dennis: Yeah. Lehman: Other discussion? Bums: I'd just like to point out to you the application that we submitted for this current funding cycle that Mr. Nasby quoted the 2.8 million and the cost per bedroom that he used reflects land cost at 5 lots at $500,000 or $100,000 a lot or the original $500,000 figure. So the cost per bedroom has a...would be lower. And without doing an analysis I don't think we can answer that question tonight, but it's certainly lower than the figure that he gave you because the application reflects the $500,000 land cost versus the actual $273,000. It would be $227,000 less for the 14 units. Kanner: This application was resubmitted just a couple months ago fight? Bums: Correct. Kanner: Didn't you know at that time...didn't you have the purchase at the lower cost at that time to include those? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #11 Page 18 Burns: Yes. Kanner: How come you didn't include those in your figure then? Bums: Because all we did was update the application that we had submitted originally and said that if we had $500,000 we would build more units. So if you really want to do an analysis I think it's going to take a little bit more time. Nasby: Yeah this is the application your organization submitted and the one the Housing and Community Development Commission considered SO... O'Donnell: Thank you Steve. Karr: Can we have a motion to accept correspondence from Mr. Bums? O'Donnell: So moved. Champion: Second. Lehman: Moved by O'Donnell, seconded by Champion. Discussion? All in favor? Opposed? (Motion carries). Any other discussion on the resolution? Roll call. Motion carries. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #12 Page 19 ITEM 12 CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CITY CODE TITLE 14, ENTITLED, "UNIFORM DEVELOPMENT CODE," CHAPTER FIVE, ENTITLED, "BUILDING AND HOUSING," ARTICLE E, ENTITLED, "HOUSING CODE" TO REQUIRE THAT ALL LANDLORDS AND TENANTS EXECUTE A LEASE ADDENDUM AND BY DELETING THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY PROVIDE WRITTEN NOTIFICATION OF HOUSING VIOLATIONS BEFORE ISSUING A MUNICIPAL INFRACTION. (PASS AND ADOPT) Lehman: (Reads item). O'Donnell: Move adoption. Lehman: Moved by O'Donnell. Champion: Second. Lehman: Seconded by Champion. Champion: Yes. Lehman: Discussion? We have been...I'm sorry. Kanner: Go ahead. I'll ask (can't hear). Lehman: I would ask for an amendment. We have received a new ordinance which would replace this ordinance. It has been...the terms of this new ordinance have changed some. This original one that we voted on back changed have been substantive enough that the amendment if passed would constitute first reading of the ordinance. This amendment is...represents changes that were suggested and agreed to by the Iowa City Apartment Association in agreement with the City Staff and my understanding with the neighborhood task force. And also there are two non-substantive changes which were first to clarify that minor children of tenant need not sign the acknowledgment form and second to clarify the City will prepare the form not necessarily furnish 500 copies. And the need to motion and second to amend the revised ordinance to include these two Staff recommendations. So if we want to we can pass the ordinance third reading as it was presented or we can...I would accept an amendment which would replace the ordinance with this new ordinance that has been agreed to by all of the parties. Vanderhoef: I will make a motion to replace the original ordinance and use the second proposed one that's been approved by Staff and Housing Authority and Renter's Association and neighborhood groups. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #12 Page 20 Lehman: We have a motion to amend the ordinance by substituting an ordinance...I think you described that pretty thoroughly. Is there a second to that amendment? Wilbum: Second. Lehman: We have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion? Pfab: Mr. Mayor. Lehman: Yes. Pfab: Could you go over again what the changes were? Lehman: I can tell you the changes that are non-substantive that came from Staff: to clarify that minor children do not need to sign the acknowledgment form on the lease. Pfab: Okay. Lehman: And to clarify that the City will prepare the form, not necessarily furnish 500 copies to the landlord. There were other changes that were made by the Apartment Owners Association agreed to by the Staff and the neighborhood association. Apparently everybody is in harmony on this. Pfab: Is...are they lengthy or would it be possible to just go over those? Lehman: I don't know what they are. All I kno~v is... Kanner: Emie can we highlight what they are? Lehman: Pardon? Kanner: Could the City Attorney highlight? Lehman: Do you know which ones...what they are? Holecek: I believe we have them here. Chmnpion: Good. Lehman: Hillary. We have someone who does know. Kanner: And I have a question. We had in our packet for item number 12 proposed amendments a redlined version, now was that supplied by the Apartment Association. They said you have an attached change. So that is different than what was passed out here. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #12 Page 21 Holecek:: What is passed out subsumes the redlined version that you see. And correct me if I'm wrong Hillary - subsumes this redlined version, but as a clean copy and also includes the Staff's changes as to not requiring the minor...the tenant's minor children to sign the acknowledgment and also removes the word "furnish" and replaces "let that prepare" as far as the City prepares the form and does not necessarily furnish multiple copies of the form. That's what you have before you. Lehman: I think there's a couple others... Hillary? Hilary Sale: Sue Dulek is actually there from your City Attorney's office is probably better equipped to explain all the changes than I am although I am certainly happy to answer questions if you have them. Lehman: Sue. Okay. Sue Dulek: Sarah did tell you all the changes. Your packet does include the redlined version and those changes do include a change in the name of the form. Previously it had been a lease addendum. The recommendation by the Greater Iowa City Area Apartment Association is to call the form an informational disclosure and acknowledgement form. Pfab: Versus what? Dulek: A lease addendum. Pfab: Okay. Okay. Alright. Karmer: Itmight be easier ifyou had the packet onpage 147. There'sthe redlined version which follows closely to this version we got here. Pfab: Okay. Is this the latest version then? Champion: Yes. Dulek: Yes. Lehman: This is the proposed amendment. Dulek: It's just taking out the redlined version and included the two non- substantive changes that the Mayor mentioned that is to clarify that minor children of tenants do not need to sign and secondly that the City will be preparing the form not necessarily furnishing multiple copies to landlords. So the form you received tonight is the redlined version just cleaned up with those two additional non-substantive changes. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #12 Page 22 Pfab: So you need both of them to put it together. Dulek: That's the suggestion, yes. Kanner: It's easier to follow with the redline. You can see where the changes where made. Item number 12. Dulek: In addition to changing the name, the other major change if I may speak for the Association would be the exclusion of the requirement that the form include the driver license number. That has been excluded. That was probably the most major change in the recommendation from the Apartment Association. Pfab: So you're saying is primarily housekeeping? Dulek: It's primarily what? Pfab: Housekeeping in the form itself. Dulek: The name of the form and the deletion of the driver's license I would say are the two major substantive changes. Yes. Lehman: Those are the reasons that we have to replace it with a different ordinance. Pfab: And is there anything else then? Dulek: I don't want to speak for the Association. I would not consider the others major substantive. There are changes and there are reasons that they requested those changes, but... Pfab: And total disagreement everybody all the way around? Okay. O'Donnell: Totally. Lehman: Total agreement, not disagreement. Pfab: I'm sorry. Agreement. Lehman: Disagreement is up here, agreement is out there. O'Donnell: Exactly. Lehman: Okay. Other discussion? Kanner: I'm glad that it's incorporating a large part of the amendments that I proposed last time about the removing the driver's license requirement. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #12 Page 23 Lehman: Okay. All in favor of the amendment. That does not require roll call, is that correct, Sarah? Kanner: Did someone...? O'Donnell: Do we not have to remove Ernie? Did we not move and second this as it was? Do we not have to withdraw those? Lehman: Yes, but we have...no, no...we have an amendment to substitute an entirely different ordinance... O'Donnell: Okay. Lehman: ... for this. Wilburn: Once that's done we have to do first consideration. Lehman: Then we do first consideration. Is that correct? O'Donnell: Is that right? Vanderhoef: We all agree. Champion: It's fine... Lehman: We all agree, but if the City Attorney doesn't agree it don't make any difference. Holecek: What did you agree on? O'Donnell: We have no idea. Lehman: I believe that we vote on the amendment, if it passes that we then have a motion for first consideration. Holecek: That's fine. Lehman: Alright. All in favor of the amendment indicate by saying aye. Opposed? Amendment carries. Is there a motion for first consideration of the ordinance as amended? O'Donnell: Moved first consideration as amendment. Lehman: Thank you. Pfab: Second. Lehman: Moved by O'Donnell, seconded by Pfab. Discussion? Roll call. Motion carries This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #6c Page 24 ITEM 6c PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS. Consider an ordinance changing the zoning designation from Low- Density Multi-Family (RM-12) to Sensitive Areas Overlay Low- Density Multi-Family (OSA-12) on 1.06 acres to allow a 14-unit multi-family building located on the west side of First Avenue south of Stuart Court. (Second Consideration) Wilburn: Emie, I rise to a point of order and information. Since we have a full Council now is it possible to call third...we had a request for expedited consideration for planning and zoning item 6c. The party is requesting that second consideration are present. Is it possible to either bring that back up for consideration by the majority or to consider third consideration this evening since we haven't adjourned? Holecek: You could do a motion to reconsider. That motion would need to be made by someone from the prevailing party which would be the five who voted. Wilburn: Would this be an appropriate and acceptable time to do that? O'Donnell: Let's do it. Holecek: Yes. Wilburn: Okay. I move to reconsider item 6c Consider an ordinance changing the zoning designation from Low-Density Multi-Family (RM-12) to Sensitive Areas Overlay Low-Density Multi-Family (OSA-12) on 1.06 acres to allow a 14-unit multi-family building located on the west side of First Avenue south of Stuart Court. Lehman: Do we have a second to the motion to reconsider? Vanderhoefi I second. Lehman: We have a motion and a second to reconsider the previous vote this evening. All in favor of reconsideration (can't hear) by saying "aye". Kanner: Wait, wait. I need some more understanding of what's going on here. Holecek: It is a motion to reconsider the vote on the collapsation or the expedited consideration. Wilbum: That's correct. Lehman: Right. Holecek: That's the motion being made. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #6c Page 25 Kanner: So to reconsider...so who's the prevailing side? Lehman: Anybody who voted in favor of the ordinance. Holecek: That's right. O'Donnell: The majority. Champion: No, he's not prevailing. Lehman: We are... Wilbum: Well the motion was defeated to collapse, so who's the prevailing side? I guess that would be Steven wouldn't it? Okay? Karr: Could we not procedurally have a motion if that is your intent to reconsider the second consideration then you would be a member of the prevailing side. Then you would start over again not acknowledging the second, but collapsing. Wilburn: I withdraw my motion. Lehman: Wait a minute. You made a motion to reconsider the consideration which we passed. Champion: You can't do that. Lehman: That's what you're saying we have to do. Holecek: The prevailing side would have been that voting "no" for the collapsation. Champion: But, he can... Wilbum: But I can move to reconsider second consideration. Holecek: Reconsider second consideration. Wilbum: I'd like to withdraw my prior motion. Lehman: Good. It's withdrawn. Wilbum: And make a motion to do second consideration...to reconsider second consideration on item 6c. O'Donnell: Second. Lehman: We have a motion to reconsider and we have a second to reconsider. Item 6c. All in favor indicate by saying "aye." This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #6c Page 26 Kanner: Wait I have a question on that. Lehman: Yes. Kanner: We're reconsidering the vote. We had an affirmative vote of 5-1 to pass number two. Lehman: Right. Holecek: Correct. Kanner: Okay. Holecek: And he's asking for reconsideration of that vote. O'Donnell: With a full Council. Lehman: And it passed. O'Donnell: And it passed. Lehman: Now we are in a position where we can... Holecek: You are now taking second consideration. Lehman: We are now looking for a motion to consider second consideration. Vanderhoefi Reconsider. Champion: We haven't voted. Karr: Have we...we haven't voted on the reconsideration. We can't go any farther yet. Lehman: Alright. Let's do this again. All in favor of reconsideration. Pfab: Wait, wait. Lehman: I'm sorry. Pfab: Are we working to collapse and do we have to unwind it as...? Lehman: Yes we're unwinding. Pfab: So if...do we vote...when we vote do we unwind it? Champion: We will do that. Lehman: A yes vote on this vote will unwind it. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #6c Page 27 Champion: People want to get construction going. Pfab: Right, right. That's what I'm hoping to do. Lehman: All in favor of the motion to reconsider indicate by saying aye. Opposed same sign. Motion carries 6-1, Kanner in the negative. We now need a consider...we need a motion... Wilbum: I move that the rule that requiring that ordinances must be considered and voted on for passage at two Council meetings prior to the meeting at which it is to be finallypassed be suspended. That the second consideration and vote be waived and that the ordinance be voted on for final passage at this time. O'Donnell: Second. Lehman: Moved by Wilbum, seconded by O'Donnell for expedited consideration. Discussion? Kanner: I talked to people at Friends of Hickory Hill that are concerned with this issue and they're just beginning to have discussion on it and I think we should have ali three votes on this. I think this is one that's taking out significant, steep and critical slope. It's controversial in the nature because it's also even though it's allowed by the law and could be recommended, it's controversial because it's going above the usual prescribed height. So Emiejust like you said that on controversial subjects you think we ought to take all three votes, I would recommend that we take our time on this and do all three votes and wait two weeks. Lehman: Steven, this project has been in the mill for five months working through channels here at the City. We've had no one speak in objection to this at public heating or at any consideration. No one has objected to this. I don't consider this particularly controversial when no one has spoken against it. When we have a lot of public discussion pro or con on an item I have a real problem with expediting. But the only controversy that I am sensing is what I'm hearing from you because it hasn't come from the public at all and if there are concerns on the part of the public they've had five months to express those concerns. Now do you think that's enough time? Kanner: Emie I think that you use it both ways. Sometimes you say when there's people don't repeat what's already been said. When people don't say anything you say you haven't heard it. I say give it all three times under State law. Lehman: Okay. Roll call. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #6c Page 28 O'Donnell: I call it question. Lehman: You didn't say it in time. I call roll call. Kanner: Second. We have a call to question. O'Donnell: I withdraw. Lehman: He withdraws it. Okay roll call. Kanner: I'm not withdrawing my second on that. O'Donnell: I have. Kanner: What? Karr: You want to make it. You don't have anything to second if he withdrew the original. Do you to wish to make the motion? Kanner: Don't you have to withdraw both? Champion: Emie's already calling the vote. Kanner: Okay. O'Donnell: Let's vote. Lehman: Roll call on the motion to expedite. Motion carries 6-1, Kanner voting the negative. Wilburn: Move that the ordinance be finally adopted at this time. O'Donnell: Second. Lehman: Moved by Wilburn, seconded by O'Donnell. Discussion. Roll call. The motion is adopted. Champion: Thank you Mr. Wilbum. Lehman: 6-1, Kanner voting the negative. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #14 Page 29 ITEM 14 CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING, AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST AN AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY OF IOWA CITY AND FARRAGUT SERVICES INC. OF LAFAYETTE, COLORADO, TO PROVIDE CONSULTANT SERVICES FOR DEVELOPMENT OF STORM SEWER MAPPING APPLICATIONS. Lehman: (Reads item). Champion: Move the resolution. Vanderhoef: Second. Lehman: Moved by Champion, seconded by Vanderhoef. Discussion? Champion: Can you give me a little explanation of what this is because I'm an engineering idiot. Atkins: You're asking me? Lehman: One of our GIS... Atkins: Janet is in the audience, but let me just take a quick run on it. We have an obligation, as you know, to address the issue of storm water management under Federal regulation. Our permits that we receive from the EPA require us to do certain storm water mapping - in other words in order to comply. This is one of the phases in creating the mapping, the documents that we need to fulfill not only our future permits, but at the same time get us the mapping instruments to make it. Champion: Does it map the storm sewer or the water flow? Atkins: Janet, please? Lehman: It does both. Atkins: She's the engineer. Champion: Oh good. Janet Lower: It maps the actual storm sewer system. So it will map the pipes, the intakes, the outlets, that nature of things. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #14 Page 30 Champion: Okay. Lehman: So we can find them all. Lower: Right. So we know where they all are and where they all go. Lehman: My understanding is there may be old storm sewer pipes that we really don't know where they are. Lower: That may be tree. I know Jim Wells in the Waste Water Department he knows where a lot of things are, but it's not necessarily down on paper. Lehman: Yeah. We're going to do that. Lower: So if you can find Jim you can find out where things are. Lehman: Okay. Champion: Thank you. Vanderhoef: We need it on paper, not in his head. Lehman: Okay any other discussion? Roll call. Motion carries. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #17 Page 31 ITEM 17. CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION. Lehman: City Council information. Irvin? Pfab: Yes. I'd like to consider a motion to reconsider the motion to defer for six months consideration of the ordinance vacating the 23 foot wide Grand Avenue Court right-of-way commencing from the north right- of-way line of Melrose Avenue and extending northward for a distance of 295 feet and placing said ordinance on the next special formal City Council agenda and be scheduled at the earliest possible time. Champion: Second. Lehman: We have a motion and a second to reconsider to reconsider the vacation of Grand Avenue Court. Discussion? All in favor indicate by raising their right hands. All opposed. Kanner: Could I get a copy of this? Lehman: Yes. All opposed same sign. Kanner: Could you hold on a second. So this is to put it on the agenda? Lehman: For reconsideration right. Kanner: So we're not voting in favor of it. We're just voting to...do we need three people to put it on the agenda? O'Dormell: ...to put it on the agenda. Lehman: No. This is a motion requires a majority vote of the Council to put it back on the agenda. It also requires that that motion be made by someone from the prevailing side which is Mr. Pfab. It would go back on the agenda for consideration at which time it could be postponed for six months. It could be voted up, it could be voted down. Kanner: Okay. And so the motion is to reconsider. I'll vote in favor of that. Lehmm~: Alright. So we now have five votes in favor of reconsideration and we have two votes to the negative with Vanderhoef and Wilburn voting against. Now let's set a time for that meeting if we're going to be doing this. What's the pleasure of Com~cil. O'Dormell: How about next Tuesday morning. Lehman: Tuesday morning, 8:00 a.m. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #17 Page 32 Vanderhoef: I'm out of town until next Monday afternoon. Wilburn: I don't have my planner with me. Kanner: Why don't we wait till the next meeting? Lehman: I think part of this is a...well I don't care, but I think it's an issue of time. If we have a special meeting between now and our next work session we can have first consideration at the special meeting, second consideration at the work session and we can pass at the regular meeting which would put it pretty much on track. O'Donnell: And I think that makes a great deal of sense. Lehman: Is Tuesday morning a time that Council can meet? Kanner: Which? Lehman: Next Tuesday 8:00. Wilburn: I don't have my planner with me. I have a couple morning meetings in Cedar Rapids, but I don't remember if it's Monday or Tuesday. Lehman: Can we pool the Council tomorrow and we will set that meeting for next Tuesday or Wednesday morning at 8:00 depending on the availability of the Council. Okay. Champion: You don't need to call me. I'll be available either time. O'Donnell: You don't have to call me. Lehman: And we will do that tomorrow. Okay? Anything else Mr. Pfab. Pfab: No. Lehman: Connie? Champion: Nothing after that one. Lehman: Mike? O'Donnell: Nothing. Irvin I really appreciate that. I think that is...that's a step in the right direction and it shows that we're still willing and able to work with the University and I really feel badly that we delayed it as long as we did. Lehman: Dee? Vanderhoef: I have nothing. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #17 Page 33 Lehman: Ross? Wilburn: Just for the record I...there has not been...there haven't been many University projects that have come in front of us, but I haven't voted down one. I hadn't voted down this one yet. It's unfortunate that the University decided to let a contract without knowing they needed formal approval from us and maybe there's some misunderstanding between Staff's, but I don't consider myself unreasonable and I'm not saying that here on Council I'm saying by a couple letters I received. I'm just saying for the record. I did just want to make sure that's clear. Otherwise I just wanted to thank the Coalition Against Domestic Violence and the Senior High Alternative School for putting together the men leaders...male leaders in the community to take a stance against men hitting women. Appreciate the luncheon they had and the speakers they got together. Thank Ernie and Interim President Sandy Boyd at the University and Lane Plugge the Superintendent of the Iowa City Community Schools for taking leadership on that. Appreciate that. Lehman: Well attended. Wilburn: Yeah. (Can't hear). Lehman: I was well pleased with the number of people particularly the number of men. Wilbum: Yeah. Good crowd. Lehman: It was a good meeting. Okay Irvin or Steven. Kanner: A few things. One want to congratulate Steve Thunder McGuire and the rest of the folks at (Can't hear) for the job they did on the construction fence. I thought it was a good use of space and bringing different groups together. They...different student groups were allowed to paint human silhouettes with things that conveyed the image of their groups so there were... Black Student Union had a space, medical students, Campaign Against War, Iowans for Peace With Iraq had a space, the Christian Group had a space and there's some beautiful colors and some fun images there. And my hats off to them for that project. And just again to reiterate a summary of my trip to the State League of Cities is in the packet with the two recommendations and hopefully Council takes some of those to heart. Especially want to mention some of the energy efficiency programs that are available and perhaps not just for our buildings, but things that can be made of use by businesses in Iowa City. There's programs out there and I think the City perhaps could help initiate some of those things. One of them is a planning program that's offered by the State. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #17 Page 34 Third thing is I noticed in the paper recently that the School Board initiated a new policy of rotating one other person in on meetings that where they helped set the agenda and get updated and I think that's a good idea for Iowa City City Council to rotate a different person on the agenda setting sessions that the Mayor has with the City Manager. I believe that happens once or twice a week. Lehman: I don't know that we've ever had an agenda setting session since I've been Mayor and this is my fifth year. We have occasionally had an item. Atkins: Receive your blessing before the agenda is put together. Lehman: You let me know what's on the agenda and I do appreciate that. Karmer: Well it might be good to start something a little more formal where the Mayor is there and we rotate a different person or the Mayor and the Vice-Mayor are there and a different person. It seems like it's a good policy from the Board and they just started it. And I think we ought to think about it. Champion: It's an old thing. They did it for years and years and years and I don't think when they...actually when they stopped doing it. But Steven the reason they did it is they don't have work sessions. So after the agenda is done by the Superintendent and the School Board would meet to discuss the items on the agenda - the President, the Vice- President and another School Board person and that person was rotated through. But the idea was to familiarize whoever you could with the agenda because they have no work session so everything is done at a meeting and try to keep the meeting from being 15 hours long instead of 6 hours long. Kanner: How come they stopped doing it, Connie? Champion: I don't know. They must have done it when Lane came because it was always done...as long as I was on the School Board it was done. Kanner: And then finally I'd like to apologize to the Gazette for erroneously correcting a mistake I thought they made in reporting a Council vote I made at our October 8th meeting. During the third reading of the ordinance that raises fines for nuisance violations I intended to vote no a third and final time and after reviewing the records it's apparent that I lost my place on the agenda and voted yes. So to Frank Gluck and Lyle Mueller I'd like to apologize for incorrectly correcting that. Lehman: Okay. A couple things. First of all I'm sure all of us - not only on the Council, but within the community - certainly wish Pat White a This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #17 Page 35 speedy recover. Pat has had bypass surgery and I really can't - I have not heard - I assume that he's doing well. We certainly hope so. So we wish him the very best. And here's an announcement that I would have loved to have made a year ago when it probably should have been made, but here it goes: Iowa City's new skateboard park located at Ten'ill Mill will be open for use this weekend weather permitting. That three month project only took us what... ? Atkins: Two or three years. Lehman: That one has really bugged me. I drive by it and I just see...anyway I strongly suggest that all skaters wear protective equipment when using this new facility - helmet, elbow pads, and so on. The park is designed for use by skateboarders and in-skaters only. Bikes are not permitted. Formal grand opening will be sometime next spring. And I think that I gosh I speak for me and my house when I say I can't wait for these advertisements for the election to be over. Pfab: Ernie? Lehman: Yes. Pfab: I have to tell you that skateboard park is something to behold. I toured it on the tour of the park and recreations. It is absolutely amazing, but it's way past my time to use it. Lehman: I think that... Vanderhoef: Me too. Lehman: I think we all resemble that. Steven do you have anything? Atkins: Nothing, Sir. Lehman: Alright. Sarah? Champion: I had one thing I forgot. Lehman: Okay, Connie. Champion: (Can't hear). Lehman: Of course you can. Champion: Okay. I read and I'm going to get a copy of this, but I didn't want it in the packet so I'll just give it Mr. Atkins, that one of the main ways to cut down on underage drinking is to enforce occupancy codes. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002. #17 Page 36 Lehman: In the bars. Champion: In the bars and we've talked about occupancy codes in bars before and I never see anything being done about it. So I'd like us to discuss that. If everybody else is willing to it have the Fire Chief come to a work session to discuss that because bartenders can then see who's drinking. Lehman: But I think Steven mentioned this some time ago didn't you Mr. Kanner? And I think the answer we got is that it's almost impossible to determine the occupancy unless you seat both doors and have half the Fire Department going through the building counting noses because...I don't know. We can certainly look at it again. Atkins: We have done it on sporadic basis Connie. Lehman: Very difficult. Atkins: It is very difficult, but it's not not doable. O'Donnell: Let's think about it. Lehman: Alright, but I agree with you. Pfab: I would support that. Lehman: Alright. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of October 22, 2002.