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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1983-07-19 Bd Comm. minutesMINUTES COMMITTEE ON COMMUNITY NEEDS JUNE 21, 1983 3:30 PM IOWA CITY PUBLIC LIBRARY, ROOM C MEMBERS PRESENT: Jackson, Krause, Williams, Lauria, Stimmel, McGee, Becker, Leshtz, Whitlow MEMBERS ABSENT: Hirt, Bonney STAFF PRESENT: Milkman, Hencin, Keller, Barnes, Mintle, Suttles (intern), Behrman COUNCILPERSONS PRESENT: Neuhauser GUESTS PRESENT: Mary Anne Volm, United Way; Mr. b Mrs. Richard Davin; Jesse Bromsen, Independent Living I I RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL: i CCN recommends that the following changes be made in the Housing Rehabilitation Manual: 1. The $3.00 service charge on weatherization loans should be eliminated. 2. The income guidelines should be amended to conform with new HUD Section 8 Assisted Mousing guidelines. i REQUEST TO HOUSING COMMISSION: 1. CCN requests a report from the Housing Commission and Housing Coordinator Lyle Saydel on the status of funds allocated for public housing site acquisition; specifically, $67,175 for 1982 assisted housing acquisition and development, $75,000 for 1983 assisted housing acquisition and development and potentially an additional $70,000 previously allocated to Independent Living. SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION: Lauria called the meeting to order at 3:35 PM. Review and Approval of Minutes for May 4 11 and 17 1983 Moved by McGee and seconded by Becker to approve the minutes of May 4, 11, and 17, 1983, as circulated. The motion carried unanimously. Discussion with Mavor Mary Neuhauser Reaardina CCN's Expanded Role The CCN members introduced themselves. Neuhauser complimented CCN on their work with the Jobs Bill allocation. She emphasized that it would be important for CCN to function whether or not COBG funds continue in future years. Neuhauser stated that CCN could function as a more active planning group to assess the 1.37.5- MICROFILMED 37.s MICROFILMED BY :JORM MICROLAB i 1 CEDAR RA PIDS•DES-MOINES r t ■ Committee on Community Needs June 21, 1983 Page 2 needs of the community. She referred to a 1979 study which determined the highest priority human needs of the community. Neuhauser stated that it would be helpful to have CCN look at those needs, do periodic surveys to determine gaps and advise the City Council on priorities which may be funded through a variety of sources. Mary Anne Volm, director of United Way, stated that the United Way planning group does not have time to do long range planning and would welcome the opportunity for CCN assistance. Leshtz commented that CCN and United Way were the only groups that did comprehensive planning for human needs in the City. Hencin emphasized the value of having an independent group" to do the human needs planning, stating that CCN would have the advantage of a "total perspective". Laurie mentioned the limitations of staff time, stating that the collection of information in a systematic fashion would be a burden on City staff. Neuhauser stated that the City Council .would be willing to consider arranging for time for the Human Services Coordinator. Milkman suggested that a representative of CCN be placed on the United Way planning group and vice versa. Neuhauser suggested that the CCN members receive copies of the 1979 reports. Mintle reiterated the need for coordinating planning for human needs between CCN and United Way. The possibility of rotating memberships to represent each group was discussed, as both groups have a three month period when. they meet frequently. Public Discussion/Members Discussion Upon review of the summer meeting schedule, it was determined that there would be no meeting in July. The next CCN meeting will be Tuesday, August 16, 1983. Review of Procram Statement for rngG Jobs Bill Funds Laurie referred to the program statement for CDBG Jobs 8111 funds stating that his only concern was that CCN was obligated to fund the Nelson Adult Center at a future time for the full amount. Lauria commented that the Program Statement nicely fits the CCN recommendations. Milkman stated that the City Council had mentioned that, if any funds were not used, they would like tome that funding used for rehabilitation in neighborhoods. McGee commented on the City Council's approach of using the CCN's priorities. The ers discussed their funded. Milkman was directed to sendsthosees to lettersbased on those comm nts. not been U_ date on Lower Ralston Creek Properties Hencin stated that the City Council will not proceed with the sale of the properties until the flood plain maps have been revised. It is anticipated that this will take from six to nine months. Stimmel questioned why the Pipeyard Parcel had been sold prior to the flood plain revisions, and Hencin explained that the buyer was willing to do the necessary filling. Lauria asked if the properties would increase in value once the maps had been, updated. Hencin stated that he doubted that the properties would be reappraised. /3 7S t j MICROFILMED BY tai ,JORM MICROLAB j (I CEDAR RAPIDs•DES 1401NES r J a Committee on Community Needs June 21, 1983 Page 3 Update on Council Response to Federal -Local Block Grant Proposal Lauria referred to the letter dated June 16, 1983, from the City Council to Senators Jepsen and Grassley and Congressman Evans. The letter supports CCN's position on the merger of General Revenue Sharing and CDBG programs. Discussion of Housing Rehabilitation Program Changes Barnes referred to her memo dated May 17, 1982 and reviewed the two changes in the Housing Rehabilitation Manual as proposed: 1. That the $3.00 service charge on weatherization loans be eliminated. 2. That the income guidelines should be amended to conform with new HUD Section 8 Assisted Housing guidelines. mend to il that Moved by ee and seconded by Whitlow to in the Housing Rehabilitation Manual be de. Thetmmotionc bothchanges made. The unanimously. Lauria commented that the income guidelines for a one person household seemed rather high. Barnes explained HUD's rationale. Discussion of Hudson/Miller NSA Designation Suttles distributed a packet of information concerning the designation of the Hudson/Miller area as an NSA. She referred to a letter and petition to the City Council dated June 7, 1983, from Karen Hradek, 924 Hudson Avenue and residents of the that a organized iforoJune 305 utttoldiscussuthe p ssibility hbOforthis NSAhood tdesignathas ion. Jackson, Williams and Lauria indicated that they would attend the June 30th meeting, Milkman questioned whether a CCN member should be assigned to this neighborhood. Suttles indicated the possibility of Hradek applying for an upcoming CCN vacancy. The members discussed the difficulty in obtaining information concerning income eligibility of the property owners in the area. They also discussed the possibility of a voluntary survey of income eligibility. Stimmel questioned whether the neighborhood boundary could end at Orchard Street rather than its present location of Riverside Drive. Quarterly Reports Independent Livinc Canter McGee referred to the letter received from Donald Schaefer, dated June 7, 1983, formally withdrawing Independent Living's application for CDBG funds. Jesse Bromsen addressed the variety of funding problems which had led to Independent Living's withdrawal of its application. Bromsen highlighted beenaccepted as ha member recent developments, stating that Independent Living had organization of United Way and had received emergency funding. CCemben which could be allocateed. M Gee stated wthat ays iin April CCN available disussed approvedalmotion7to allocate the funds for public housing should Independent Living be unable to use the money. Lauria mentioned that it might be possible to reallocate the money to the Nelson /. 7J o....._ yi MICROFILMED BY 'JORM MICROLAB f i CEDAR RAPIDS -DES MOINES r J `-1 Committee on Community Needs June 21, 1983 Page 4 Adult Center rather than use it for public housing site acquisition. He requested clarification of the current public housing site acquisition fund use. Milkman referred to a memo from Hencin to the Housing Commission dated May 4, Hencii n stwhich outlined funds atedthat theCommittee's allocated to transferng projects. Independent Living funds to public housing if Independent Living failed to meet the deadline had not been forwarded,to the City Council. CCN members requested a report from the Housing Commission and Housing Coordinator Lyle Seydel on the status of funds allocated for public housing site acquisition; specifically, the $67,175 for 1982 assisted housing acquisition and development, $75,000 for 1983 assisted housing acquisition and development and the possibility of an additional $70,000 previously allocated to Independent Living. Assisted Housing Acquisition and Development This report was not presented due to Hirt's absence. Housing Rehabilitation and Weatherization Krause reported that one project has been completed and three are currently under construction. $71,000 is encumbered by the project and there is one interest loan settlement tomorrow and one to two loans out to bid. He explained the eligibility guidelines for forgiveable versus low interest loans. Krause reviewed the priority system which made funds first available to the elderly, handicapped, and disabled persons. Lauria expressed a concern that young, low income persons were neglected by this program. He stated that he was particularly concerned about young, blue collar, low income persons. Krause stated that he would inquire as to the percentage of funds which have already been earmarked. Laurie stated that a letter of resignation had been received from McGee. He thanked McGee for her contribution to CCN. The meeting adjourned at 4:55 PM. Submitted by:y Sara Behrman, Minute aT'ker 7S- 1; MICROFILMED BY y '.JORM MICRO_ LAB_ I CEDAR RAPIDS -DES MOINES )! 1 MINUTES PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION June 8, 1983 MEMBERS PRESENT: Crum, Jennings, Martin, Mitchell, Riddle, Willis, Wooldrik MEMBERS ABSENT: Dean STAFF PRESENT: Showalter, Howell, Ackerman, Crutchfield, Ray GUESTS PRESENT: Joan Bickel, Carol Bream, Bill Casey, Audrey Chanen, Gail Fitzgerald, Bob Hall, Darlene Henderson, Kate James, Jean A. Lakin, George Nagle, Anne Pinkerton, Steve Wieting RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL ' Moved by Wooldrik, seconded by Crum that any money that the city derives from the sale of Central Junior High should be earmarked for a specific community recreation facility. Unanimous. RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE STAFF Moved by Mitchell, seconded by Martin to recommend to the staff a one-year trial change of Center pool hours for summer 1983, Monday -Friday: Swim Club 5:30-6:25 a.m.; early bird adult swim 6:30-8:00 a.m.; Swim Club 4:30-6:00 p.m. Unanimous. 1 SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION AND FORMAL ACTION TAKEN f The minutes of the May 7, May 18, and May 26 meetings were approved as written. Several guests spoke to request additional adult hours at the Center pool this sumer. The regular summer adult hours are 11:05 a.m. to 1:00 P.M. Monday - Friday and 9:00-10:00 P.m. Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday. There are many more adult hours during the fall, winter, and spring: 6:30-8:00 a.m. Monday and Wednesday; 9:00 a.m, to 1:00 P.m. Monday -Friday; and 9:00-10:00 p.m. Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday. With the additional numbers of lap swimmers as well as the closing of the Fieldhouse pool, the Center Pool has been quite over -crowded. A petition was circulated to add adult hours; about 85 persons signed. Swim Club now uses the pool 5:30-8:00 a.m. during the summer, Plus morning hours at City Park pool. Martin suggested giving Swim Club the hours of 4:30-6:00 p.m., and early bird adult swim 6:30-8:00 a.m. Monday -Friday. Swim Club could also use the 5:30-6:25 a.m. time. This was well received by both Swim Club and the lap swimmers. After discussion it was moved by Mitchell, seconded by Martin to summer recommend 83, Monday -Friday: one SwimeClubril 5a30-year m.of Ceearlynterpbirdoolhaoursdultfsor wim 6:30-8:00 a.m.; Swim Club 4:30-6:00 p.m. Unanimous. This will cut public swim hours weekdays from 2:00-9:00 to 2:00-4:30 p.m. and 6:00-9:00 p.m. Willis reminded the Commission that they are an advisory body, and that any decision must cane from the staff. A final decision regarding pool hour changes will be made by Neal Berlin. Darlene Henderson, Lakeside Apts. HACAP manager, requested aid in organizing a youth program at Lakeside. Funds for such a program were appropriated last MICRDFILMEO BY E '.JORM MICROLAB i CEDAR RAPIDS -DES MOINES - J ', I Parks and Recreation Commission June 8, 1983 Minutes, Page 2 summer, but were not used and may be lost if not used by June 30. Henderson said there are facilities as well as an Olympic -sized pool at Lakeside which they would like to utilize, and asked about the possibility of a Recreation staff person organizing and carrying out the program. Showalter replied that we need to consider whether we want to operate this type of program on private property. Wooldrik suggested that the children could attend the Grant Wood School playground program. After discussion, Showalter suggested that Henderson get definite information about the funds being available, and that she meet with him and the Recreation program supervisors on Friday, June 10, at 9:00 a.m. to see what might be offered. COMMITTEE REPORTS Willis reported that the Riverfront Commission had walked the proposed Napoleon Park trail. There were lots of bugs, and also some trash. The nature aspect of this park is very small: in some places the river is not visible from the trail, and the plant life is quite average. Willis felt he couldn't recommend spending funds there. Jennings reported that the committee on proposed policy directions for the Recreation . erlinswillhrecommeendthatheir the Comimissiontions to meet withAlCassadymshortly after he arrives. DIRECTOR'S REPORT Showalter reported that the city was not chosen for funding of the Napoleon Park restroom project by the Land and Water Conservation Fund. The entire state Of Iowa, including all municipalities and counties, received a total of only 5488,000. Funding will be requested through the Optimist Clubs and possibly other service organizations. CHAIR REPORT Riddle expressed his feelings that we need to let the Council and others know that we need money - that cur facilities and programs are lacking because of Shortage of funds. OTHER BUSINESS Willis asked about proceeds from the hotel/motel tax. Showalter stated that the taz went into effect April 1, and that state law requires that 50% of any perhapsswe should cons derir0eequesti grS 0,000gof theseefunds for9theted that Napoleon Park restroom project. The proposed sale of Central Junior High was discussed. Wooldrik suggested that any money that the city receives be channeled into a specific recreation i� not ntohe movedbyWooldrik,jsecondediby Ctrum thatranyenealfmoney thatrthescltyyderivedicusson it saffrom the sale of Central Junior High should be earmarked for a specific recreation facility. Unanimous. Wooldrik asked about progress On the golf tournament. Showalter responded that he had written a memo to Berlin requesting that he request a Saturday 1374 ; MICROFILMED BY !JORM MICROLAB CEDAR RAPIDS -DES I101NES r , 11", r Parks and Recreation Commission June 8, 1983 Minutes, Page 3 date for Finkbine, suggesting one-half day to be set aside for us. Crum asked about the condition of the Mercer Park ball diamonds, saying that it doesn't take much rain to cancel games. Ray responded that the soil there is very poor and that there is a serious drainage problem. Last fall 30 tons of soil -sand mix was put on the diamonds, and it has helped. Jennings asked about putting chain link fencing around the diamonds. Showalter said that there were funds to do that in 1978, but the Council would not approve the project. New lighting for diamond 81 should be considered because of safety. Moved by Crum, seconded by Mitchell to adjourn, 8:55 p.m. II MICROFILMED BY IJ ORM MICROLAB 'CEDAR RAPIDS•DES-MOINES ,I r i 1374 MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION JUNE 8, 1983 6:00 P.M. IOWA CITY PUBLIC LIBRARY - MEETING ROOM B MEMBERS PRESENT: Margaret Nowysz, Howard Jones Vander Woude, James Hayes MEMBERS ABSENT: GUESTS PRESENT: STAFF PRESENT: CALL TO ORDER: Larry Baker, Greg Duffey Mary Nieterbach Pat Keller Chuck Skaugstad, Steven The meeting was called to order at 6:11 p.m. by Margaret Nowysz. A discussion between Mary Nieterbach and the Historic Preservation Commission lasted approximately one hour and a half. Mary reviewed with the Iowa City Historic Preservation Commission the rules, procedures, and processes that the City of Des Moines used in the management of their historic districts. For a more complete record of this discussion, please review attached document. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: , Howard Jones moved that the minutes of the May 11, 1983, meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission be accepted. Chuck Skaugstad seconded the motion and it passed unanimously without discussion. NOMINATION OF NEIGHBORHOODS:' Margaret opened the discussion of the nomination of neighborhoods by asking what procedures were required for getting Iowa City historic districts approved. Pat Keller then stated that the process of nominating districts involved holding Public hearings and presentations before the Planning & Zoning Commission and the City Council. Margaret then discussed how long it would take to complete this. review process, and that a November deadline seemed reasonable. Howard Jones asked, what the Commission would be designating when the historic districts were outlined. Margaret responded by stating that the Commission could only nominate districts on a local level. Howard stated the benefits of having districts in place would be the preservation of neighborhoods that were deemed to be of historic value. Margaret stated that much of the work and research regarding the quality of historic areas in Iowa City had already been completed. Summit Street and Woodlawn are documented through the process of nomination onto the National Register of Historic Places. The North Side Commercial and Residential, Goosetown and College Hill areas of Iowa City are in the process of being /✓ 7,7 :.....�: _— _--tea •--—�� ani _ MICROFILMED BY tt"' 'JORM MICROLAB CEDAR RAPIDS -DES MOINES r J -._.. J. HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION JUNE 8, 1983 PAGE 2 nominated. Therefore, a lot of the documentation of these areas has been completed. All of the applications for the National Register of Historic Places have been completed except in the College Hill area. Jim Hayes stated that he would like to see all of the districts forwarded at one time to the Planning & Zoning Commission and City Council. All of the questions should be raised in regards to the districts and not one at a time in a piecemeal fashion. Howard asked what documentation was available and felt that all of the districts that were nominated should be thoroughly documented. Margaret felt that this would not be a problem. Howard stated that he was not familiar with the criteria involved in the proposed nomination of these districts to the National Register and therefore did. not know what work had been completed. Howard stated that staff should undertake a project to collect this documentation into one package. Jim felt that he was comfortable with the district nominations given the inventory that had to be completed. A package should be formulated, however, by staff, adequate documentation and this package should be reviewed by the Commission. The present level of documentation is very detailed and specific. Howard asked what criteria for nomination was required by the National Register. Did the National Register require a certain percentage of resident approval in order for a block to be included in a district. Margaret then reviewed the districts that were proposed for National Register nomination and the requirements that were involved. Howard thought that it would be beneficial to see a package assembled prior to proposing districts to the Planning & Zoning Commission and City Council. The Commission should be thoroughly prepared to answer all questions by the public and this could only be done through documentation. The Commission should have all of the arguments set forth and every Commissioner should feel comfortable with the nominations. Jim then stated that the Summit Street and Woodlawn areas would have absolutely no problems with City nomination due to their inclusion already on the National Register. Margaret asked what timeframe could be expected for full City district nomination. Pat then went over the requirements stated in the ordinance and the Commission concluded that a November timeframe appeared to be realistic. Howard added that the whole package should be tied together so that an integrated proposal could be made and the whole process should be carefully monitored. Margaret added that the process would take a long time, and many buildings would suffer adversely through the, 1983 construction season. The best method of preserving a neighborhood was through zoning. Howard asked if owners had been informed about their status in regard to nomination to the National Register. Should the Commission also hold public hearings to inform residents of the City nominations? Margaret replied that all of these people had been contacted by the State. Steve added that yes, in fact Property owners have received multiple mailings. Howard believed that it was important to adhere to procedures that had already been laid down in the ordinance. Chuck asked what other cities do in regard to requests for nomination of city districts. Des Moines and Dubuque were reviewed as far as their procedures in this matter. /37% 1 MICROFILMED BY 1� Of' ;JORM MICROLAB i CEDAR RAPIDS -DES I401NES J r--• HISTORIC PRE5ERVATION COMMISSION JUNE 8, 1983 PAGE q Jim asked what form of presentation the Commission should make to the Council. Howard added that the reasons for inclusion of a district needed to be thoroughly spelled out. Jim presented a motion to direct staff to collect all available information for Iowa City historic district nomination for the Summit, Woodlawn, North Side Commercial, North Side Residential, Goosetown and College Hill areas of Iowa City. The Commission will consider all of the information for nomination of the six districts at the next meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission. This motion was seconded by Chuck Skaugstad and passed unanimously without discussion. EDUCATION: Margaret opened the discussion of educational alternatives by asking what alternatives were available. Steve suggested the use of mailings and newsletters which are very good but tend to be expensive. Jim said that things will presently be very busy as they stand and much work is needed to be done for district nomination. Consequently, he felt that the educational efforts should revolve around informing people about the positive aspects of living in an historic area. Margaret suggested the formulation of a list of individuals to contact in regard to a proposed district educational effort. Publications should also be gathered that other Commissions have formulated and the Commission should try to gather brochures and pamphlets that might benefit homeowners through the dissemination of information. Howard stated that the educational thrust of the Commission should be to look at what other people and Commissions are doing and develop similar programs. An awards type of program could prove to be very valuable. The types of awards, guidelines, and applications should be investigated as part of an awards program. ESTABLISHMENT OF AWARDS PROGRAM: Margaret suggested that a future meeting be designated to receive applications and present awards. There was then discussion lead by Jim Hayes on whether awards commerci al, residentiad be l, ospecific tc.,or w whether the interior, the scope of the awardsshould beleftopen. Howard added that an outline of the guidelines and an application form be presented at the next meeting. Jim asked in what form the awards would be presented. Chuck stated that plaques were used in Chicago. Jim added that the National Trust had a plaque that many cities give. Howard asked for what will the award be given. Steve then read section one of the ordinance relating to the Purpose and intent. Awards could be given for outstanding example through construction or remodeling. Jim added that an application form needed to be formulated. Margaret said that the awards should be all encompassing and general. Howard stated that in the application form, reasons outlining the justification should be specifically stated. Awards should be made annually if warranted. Margaret added that some years there might be multiple awards and other years there may be no awards. Additional discussion was raised on possible additional educational projects. Possible Irving Weber articles on historic districts, the use of radio, and the obtaining of information from Madison, Wisconsin, Austin and San Antonio, Texas, and other cities were suggested as possible courses of action that the Commission could pursue. /377 i•r� i li MICROFILMED BY :JORM MICRO_ LA.B i i CEDAR RAPIDs•DEs MOINES r J P' n HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION JUNE 8, 1983 PAGE 4 SOURCES OF FUNDING: In response to the Jobs Bill program, Margaret asked what were the legal ramifications of buying and rehabilitating a house or running a salvage bank. Pat responded by informing the Commission that discussions with the legal staff show that the Commission is an advisory body and could not obligate the City in any way. Purchase of a house, therefore, could not be undertaken. The idea of a salvage bank may be feasible depending upon the structure of the program. REPORTS FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS: No specific concerns were raised at this time. ADJOURNMENT: Chuck presented a motion that the Historic Preservation Commission adjourn. This motion was seconded by Steve and the Commission adjourned at 8:44 p.m. 5� MICROFILMED 8Y I !JORM MICROLAB I CEDAR RAPIDS.DES-MOIRESr-- 1377 J. SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION BETWEEN MARY NIETERBACH, DES MOINES PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF TO THE DES MOINES HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND THE IOWA CITY HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION ° Des Moines has two city districts. These districts are also on the National Register of Historic Places. a Any change or alteration to the exterior of a building triggers a certificate of appropriateness. ° Monitoring of districts has been difficult; interdepartmental cooperation between the building inspection department and the planning department has been poor. Building inspectors are not overly zealous in regards to historic preservation violations. The Des Moines Historic Preservation Commission has received poor publicity due to the negative nature of some of the commissioners. Some commissioners are anti -historic preservation. ° No building permits are issued in districts without a certificate of appropriateness. ° 51% of the residents must petition Council to be included in a historic district. j° There is no monetary charge for a certificate of appropriateness, this is covered in the building permit fee. ° In cases dealing with demolition, the commission has three months in which to get the building sold, moved, or work out some other alternative. i ° Process of application for Certificate of Appropriateness: I. Apply for building permit for exterior alterations. 2. Certificate of Appropriateness required. 3. Application. 4. Staff review - presents findings of fact - makes recommendations. S. Commission review - examples of materials may be requested. 6. Commission action - official resolution, issuance of certificate of appropriateness. 7. Copy of resolution sent to applicant via certified mall. ° Frequently, applicants will be shown pictures depicting examples of good work that has been completed on another building. /3717 4 I MICROFILMED BY .JORM MICROLAB CEDAR RA PIDS.DES'MOINES r ■ 4 ° Legal staff attend all meetings. ° All adjacent property owners are notified of historic preservation commission review. ° Slides of projects are sometimes presented. ° Educational efforts in Des Moines have included: I. Seminars on historic preservation. 2. Mailings to historic districts. 3. Workshops on identifying and classifying the architectural period of a building. 4. Completion of a bibliography for property owners in historic areas. 5. Council Bluffs and Madison, Wisconsin have good educational programs. ° Des Moines has classified historic districts as urban revitalization districts - thus allowing for tax abatements on Improvements to historic properties. This program discourages demolition and new construction and assists in rehabilitation. MICROFILMED BY IJORM MICROLAB ;CEDAR RAPIDS -DES MOINES r 11 V MINUTES HOUSING APPEALS BOARD JUNE 22, 1983 MEMBERS PRESENT: Goldene Haendel, Beth Ringgenberg, Fred Krause, Mike Farrell, Al Logan, Janet Schlechte MEMBERS ABSENT: None. STAFF PRESENT: Kelley Vezina, David Malone, David Brown, Larry Kinney, Judy Hoard Haendel called the meeting to order. Krause made a motion to approve the minutes from the May 10, 1983, meeting. Ringgenberg seconded the motion. The motion carried. APPEAL OF PI KAPPA ALPHA FRATERNITY 1032 N. DUBU UE: Present: None. Inspector Malone reported that he conducted a licensing inspection at 1032 N. Dubuque on April 26, 1983. The first violation appealed was Chapter 17- 5.I.(2)(a) lack of required handrail, two sets of outside steps north and south; at the northeast part of the building have no handrails. Inspector Malone also presented the second appealed violation which was also Chapter 17-5.I.(2)(a) lack of required handrail, east interior steps to boiler room have no handrail. Krause made a motion to uphold the violations involving Chapter 17-5. L (2)(a) lack of required handrail. Logan seconded the motion. The motion carried. i APPEAL OF JANENNE WICKS 702 IOWA AVENUE: Present: Janenne Wicks. Inspector Malone reported that he conducted a licensing inspection at 702 Iowa Avenue on April 27 and May 4, 1983. The first violation appealed was Chapter 17- S.K.(3)(a) lack of required/adequate mechanical ventilation, the first floor bathroom has no openable window or vent fan. Ms. Wicks stated there was an opening in the bathroom wall that opened into the hallway. Ringgenberg made a motion to uphold Chapter 17-5.K.(3)(a) lack of required/adequate mechanical ventilation in the first motion carried. floor bathroom. Schlechte seconded the motion. The The second violation appealed was Chapter 17-5.M.(1) lack of required electrical outlet; second floor, southeast room, has only one electrical convenience outlet. Ms. Wicks stated that because this room had only been rented to males she did not feel that they had the need for additional outlets. Krause made a motion to uphold Chapter 17-5.M.(1) lack of required electrical outlets. Schlechte seconded the motion. The motion carried. At this point, Appeals Board member Mike Farran came. There was discussion as to how many members needed to be present. Assistant City Attorney David Brown informed the Board that only five members could vote and advised that one member should leave. Ringgenberg left the meeting at this time, leaving five members. 1371 . MICROFILMED BY JORM MICROLAB t CEDAR RA P I DS -D ES -MDI 11 ES r --1 -1 MINUTES HOUSING APPEALS BOARD JUNE 22, 1983 PAGE 2 APPEAL OF MRS. HAROLD MANN 723 E. JEFFERSON: Present: None. Inspector Malone stated to the Board that the appeal request had not been received within the ten day filing period. Schlechte made a motion to hear the appeal. Krause seconded the motion. The motion carried. Assistant City Attorney Brown informed the Board that Mrs. Mann had been sent a letter saying that her appeal would not be heard until the July Apppeals Board meeting, if the Appeals Board granted her appeal rights. The appeal of 723 E. Jefferson will be brought before the Board at the July 12, 1983, meeting. APPEAL OF JACK YOUNG 340 ELLIS AVENUE: Present: None. Inspector Malone reported that he conducted a complaint inspection of 340 Ellis Avenue on May 4, 1983. The first violation appealed was Chapter 17-7.A.(I) ceiling not maintained in safe and sound condition; Apt. 24, water coming through the ceiling. The second violation appealed was Chapter 17-7.A.(5) ceiling not maintained such that it may be kept clean and sanitary; Apt. 24 and Apt. 34, kitchen ceiling is water -stained with peeling paint. The third violation appealed was Chapter 17-7. I, electrical maintained in good and safe working condition; Apt. system not 24, kitchen ceiling light fixture has water dripping from it. Inspector Malone stated that at the time he did the inspection theceiling light fixture was full of water and he advised the tenant to shut off the lightswitch and empty the water in the fixture. The last violation appealed was Chapter 17-7.J.(2) lack of adequate water pressure; when Apt. 24 bathroom faucets are turned on and then Apt. 34 bathroom faucets, the water pressure in Apt. 34 does not seem adequate. Inspector Malone stated that the water pressure was less than the width of a penci I. Schlechte made a motion to uphold Chapter 17-7.A.(1) ceiling not maintained in safe and sound condition, Chapter 17-7.A.(5) ceiling not maintained such that it may be kept clean and sanitary, Chapter 17-7.I. electrical system not maintained in good and safe working condition, and Chapter 1.7-7.J.(2) lack of adequate water pressure. Krause seconded the motion. The motion carried. APPEAL OF RICHARD CONDORELLI 422 BROWN STREET: Inspector Vezina reported to the Board that Mr. Condarelli had telephoned the day before and had verbally withdrawn the appeal. 1✓ e7 (i MICROFILMED DY I ':JORM MICROLAB CEDAR RAPIDS•DES'MOINES r MINUTES HOUSING APPEALS BOARD JUNE 22, 1983 PAGE 3 APPEAL OF PHI GAMMA DELTA FRATERNITY. 303 ELLIS AVENUE: Present: Jim Brook Inspector Malone reported that he conducted a licensing inspection at 303 Ellis Avenue on January 21, 1983. The appeal request was not filed within the proper time period. Krause made a motion to grant appeal rights. Logan seconded the motion. The motion carried. Assistant City Attorney David Brown advised the Board that if they chose to they could hear the appeal if Mr. Brook was prepared to present his appeal at this time. Mr. Brook stated that he was prepared to present the appealed violations to the Board this morning. The Board agreed to hear the appeal at this time. The first violation appealed was Chapter 17-5.I.(2)(a) lack of required handrail; southeast exterior steps from sidewalk to basement kitchen lack a handrail. Mr. Brook stated that the steps go down to the kitchen and he felt that a handrail might impede movement of groceries down to the kitchen. Krause made a motion to uphold Chapter 17-5.I.(2)(a) lack of required handrail. Schlechte seconded the motion. The motion carried. The next violation appealed was Chapter 17-5.N.(4) lack of required 7' minimum ceiling height; southeast bedroom in basement has 6'9k" ceiling height. Mr. Brook stated that this room was presently vacant but had been used by the house cook in the past. Logan made a motion to grant a variance to Chapter 17-5.N.(4) lack of required 7' minimum ceiling height. Krause seconded the motion. The motion carried. APPEAL OF MARQUERITE WELTER, 926-26k N. DODGE: Present: None. Inspector Vezina reported that the Board had heard an appeal on this property in the past and at that time had granted a variance to Chapter 17-5.N.(4) lack of required minimum 7' ceiling height as long as the property was owner -occupied. Inspector Vezina stated that Ms. Welter no longer lived at the property and that she was requesting a variance from the Board. The violation is in 926k kitchen which has a ceiling height of 615Yt". Logan made a motion to grant a variance to Chapter 17-5.N.(4). Schlechte seconded the motion. The motion carried. APPEAL OF MICHAEL MAHER, 417 GRANT: Present: Michael Maher. Inspector Vezina reported that he conducted a licensing inspection at 417 Grant on March 31, 1983. He stated that the appeal request had been filed late. Krause made a motion to hear the appeal request. Farran seconded the motion. The motion carried. Mr. Maher was prepared to present his case to the Board and the Board agreed to hear the appeal at this time. The first violation appealed was Chapter 17-5.N.(4) lack of required 7' minimum ceiling height; northwest room in basement sleeping room is 618". Mr. Maher stated that he had repaired the other violations in the northwest room and he was requesting a variance from the Board for the ceiling height violation. /, 7f y; 1 SSI I MICROFILMED BY :JORM MIC_ ROLAB CEDAR RAPIDS -DES MOINES MINUTES HOUSING APPEALS BOARD JUNE 22, 1983 PAGE 4 Krause made a motion to grant a variance to Chapter 17-5.N.(4) lack of required minimum 7' ceiling height. Schlechte seconded the motion. The motion carried. Mr. Maher reported to the Board that he was withdrawing his appeal of Chapter 17-5.N.(4) lack of required 7' minimum ceiling height in the southwest sleeping room in the basement. He said the room would no longer be used as a habitable room. APPEAL OF MARSHAL HUNTER 1105-05h ROCHESTER AVENUE: Inspector Hoard reported that the Board had heard the appeal of Mr. Hunter on February 8, 1983, and had requested that a continuance be granted at that time. The violation that was heard by the Board was Chapter 17-7.I. electrical system not maintained in good and safe working condition; south side, 1105k, electrical service is located too close to entry and stairway. The Board had granted a continuance to allow the utility company to inspect the installation. Mr. Hunter told the Board that Dick Bock from Iowa -Illinois Gas & Electric had looked at the location and had said that it was adequate. Mr. Hunter said that the service had been installed 18 years ago and though it might not meet the code today, he felt that it was safe. He added that there was a loop that was lower than he thought it should be and that Mr. Bock had indicated that it could be Pulled tighter. Krause made a motion to continue the appeal for 30 days during which time Inspector Hoard was to make arrangements for Mr. Bock from the utility company, the City electrical inspector and Mr. Hunter to meet at the property and to inspect the. electrical installation and to provide the Board with a written statement of their findings. Logan seconded the motion. The motion carried. APPEAL OF CLARA HARRISON 11811 SOUTH DUBUQUE: Present: Clara Harrison, Dean Oakes. Inspector Hoard told the Board that this appeal was being reheard because the notice of hearing letter that had been delivered to Ms. Harrison's place of business had stated that the hearing date was April 23, 1983 rather than March 23, 1983. The Board heard the appeal at the March 23 meeting. The first violation that was appealed was Chapter 17-S.I.(2)(g) lack of required minimum/doorway; Apt. 6, entry door has height of 6'. Inspector Hoard told the Board that this particular apartment was located between the first and second floors. Schlechte made a motion to grant a variance to Chapter 17-5.I.(2)(g). Krause seconded the motion. The motion carried. The next violation appealed was Chapter 17-5.J.(1) lack of required natural light; Apt. 2, bedroom has no window, lacks natural light requirement. Inspector Hoard told the Board that this was an interior bedroom, that it did have a doorway that opened into a livingroom and one that opened into the hallway. She added that there was sufficient natural light in the livingroom to provide spill light as allowed for by the Housing Code for the bedroom but that the required opening size from the bedroom into the livingroom was not met. Ms. Harrison told the Board that years before she had been told by a previous inspector that if she made an opening from the bedroom into the livingroom the MICROFILMED BY �I 'JORM MICRO_ LAB j CEDAR RAPIDS•DES MOINES r J ' I s I "I MINUTES HOUSING APPEALS BOARD JUNE 22, 1983 PAGE 5 Housing Code requirements would be met. Krause made a motion to grant a variance to Chapter 17-5.J.(1) lack of required natural light in Apt. 2 bedroom. Logan seconded the motion. The motion carried. The next violation appealed was Chapter 17-5.J.(1) lack of required natural light; Apt. 3, bedroom has no window, lacks natural light requirement. Inspector Hoard told the Board that this was an interior room and that the doorway opened from the bedroom into the hallway. Mrs. Harrison stated to the Board that this apartment had existed in its present state for 42 years, that there was a ventilation system for the bedroom. Inspector Hoard was asked by a Board member if there were other violations in this apartment. She informed them that this was the only violation cited. Logan made a motion to grant a motion to Chapter 17-5.J.(1) lack of natural light, Apt. 3 bedroom. Krause seconded the motion. The motion carried. The next violation appealed was Chapter 17-5.J.(1) lack of required natural light; Apt. 4, livingroom has no window to the exterior lacking the natural light requirement. Inspector Hoard reported to the Board that there was enough natural light in the kitchen to be counted as spill light for the livingroom and that there was a doorway between the kitchen and the livingroom that had 18.88 square feet. She also stated that there was a window area above the doorway between the livingroom and the bedroom that had 10.5 square feet of natural light. Logan made a motion to grant a variance to Chapter 17-5.J.(1) lack of required natural light, Apt. 4 livingroom. Schlechte seconded the motion. The motion carried. The next violation appealed was Chapter 17-5.K.(2)(b) lack of required natural ventilation; Apt. 2 bedroom has no window, lacks natural ventilation requirement. Inspector Hoard stated that this was an interior room and that the natural ventilation requirement or the spill light requirement of the Housing Code could not be met. Mrs. Harrison stated that there was a mechanical system of ventilation and that she had not shown Inspector Hoard this during the licensing inspection. Krause made a motion to uphold Chapter 17-5.K.(2)(b) pending a reinspection by Inspector Hoard. Schlechte seconded the motion. The motion carried. The next violation appealed was Chapter 17-5.K.(2)(b) lack of required natural ventilation; Apt. 4 livingroom has no windows to the exterior, lacking the natural ventilation requirement. Inspector Hoard stated to the Board that there was adequate natural ventilation from the kitchen to meet the Housing Code requirement for ventilation for an interior room. Krause made a motion to grant a variance to Chapter 17-5.K.(2)(b) lack of required natural ventilation, Apt. 4 livingroom. Logan seconded the motion. The motion carried. The last violation appealed was Chapter 17-5.N.(4) lack of required 7' minimum ceiling height; Apt. 6 bedroom and kitchen has a ceiling height of 6'9h" and livingroom has ceiling height of 616". Inspector Hoard stated to the Board that this apartment was situated between the first floor and second floor. Schlechte made a motion to grant a variance to Chapter 17-5.N.(4) lack of required 7' minimum ceiling height, Apt. 6 bedroom, kitchen and livingroom. Farran seconded the motion. The motion carried. /43 %/ 11r I MICROFILMED BY p'+ .JORM MICROLAB CEDAR RAPIDS -DES MOINES J. i MINUTES HOUSING APPEALS BOARD JUNE 22, 1983 PAGE 6 Krause made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Farran seconded the motion. The motion carried, Goldene Haendel, Chairp son Housing Appeals Board ,:: caro.—. -..----`J -•-� MICROFILMED BY IJORM {MICRO_ LAB, I j CEDAR WIDS1-DES MOINES 7r • 1 `-1 i MINUTES HOUSING APPEALS BOARD JUNE 22, 1983 PAGE 6 Krause made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Farran seconded the motion. The motion carried, Goldene Haendel, Chairp son Housing Appeals Board ,:: caro.—. -..----`J -•-� MICROFILMED BY IJORM {MICRO_ LAB, I j CEDAR WIDS1-DES MOINES 7r • 1 HOTEL STEERING COMMITTEE JULY 7, 1983 CITY MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM MEMBERS PRESENT: Amert, Berlin, Hayek, Perret MEMBERS ABSENT: McDonald, Wegman GUESTS PRESENT: Al Vijums, Richard Peterson and Vern Beck representing the developer, Tim Lutz and Pete Lassic representing Dryvit, Charles Rohde of King's Building Materials, and members of the media Meeting called to order at 8:45 a.m. Hayek moved and Amert seconded the acceptance and approval of the minutes of the June 16, 1983, meeting. Motion approved unanimously, McDonald and Wegman absent. DISCUSSION OF EXTERIOR MATERIALS FOR FACADE: Vijums gave a preliminary introduction stating he represented Adolfson & Peterson which did $81 million in construction work in 1982. He said Adolfson & Peterson (A&P) will be submitting cost estimates and the like as the construction management team for the project. He indicated A&P will also work with the architect on design issues. Vijums stated A&P will supply the management for the project and use local contractors for the remaining work as much as possible. Vijums said cost estimates have been made for five different materials for the hotel facade. These are: (1) Synthetic stucco (Dryvit, Surewall, R -Wall, etc.) --5288,000 (2) Plaster (Portland cement stucco) --$324,000 (3) Decorative concrete blocks --$432,000 (4) Brick --$510,000 (5) Pre -cast panels --$648,000 Vijums noted these were the total estimated costs of material and did include other costs associated with a heavier facade material. Vijums gave some reasons for the cost differences between these materials which included weight difference (eight pounds per square foot for synthetic stucco as opposed to 50-60 pounds per square foot for brick and pre -cast concrete panels). He also indicated the "mucky" soil conditions demanded a light -weight material; otherwise the project would require an increased number of caissons and an increased amount of structural steel. Vijums stated the differences between synthetic stucco and stucco were not major and that A&P could work with either equally well. He also stated /,3 79 )hr MICROFILMED BY Of, `JORM MICROLAB CEDAR RAPIDS -DES MOINES J. HOTEL STEERING COMMITTEE JULY 7, 1983 PAGE 2 the Committee could choose any stucco texture or color as long as it would complement with the College Block Building. Hayek wanted to know if the cost estimates included structural cast. Vijums the increased replied affirmatively. Perret asked if the large increase in cost was due to other items such as the structural steel or the caissons as opposed to the actual facade material. Vijums again replied affirmatively and stated that was why high-rise buildings did not use heavy weight materials such as brick. Vijums said the Dryvit system used a drywall system with studs already inserted and had structural studs as a back-up. This system takes into account the temperature differentials in different building locations such as would occur between the south and north walls. Berlin requested information as to the problems mentioned in the King's Material letter (attached to the minutes). Vijums stated each exterior material system had its own problems. Given this building is designed for about a 40 year lifespan, he thought the Oryvit would work well. Perret wanted to know if there was a medium -weight material that could be considered for the building. Vijums said a glass curtain wall and/or aluminum panels would meet the medium -weight criteria but its costs, once installed, are about S40 -S50 per square foot which is very expensive. Vijums then suggested the Committee have Tim Lutz, a sales representative for Dryvit, present additional information on the Dryvit system. Lutz said Dryvit has been in use in Europe for 20+ years and was first used in the United States in 1969. Further, he stated that over 100 million square feet of buildings had been covered with Dryvit and over ;50 million of Dryvit was purchased in 1982. He said the main problem with Dryvit was in its field application. He stated a person from the Dryvit office would Pe on-site for this project to assure that there would be no problems. Lutz then gave a slide show on the Dryvit system which, among other things, noted: (1) A number of national architectural firms have specified Oryvit; (2) The Dryvit system utilizes special wallboard, adhesive, mesh, and a finish which are manufactured by Dryvit; (3) Dryvit can be used in a variety of ways ranging from signs to decorative panels to entire wall coverings; (4) There are two methods of application --field and prefabricated panel; and (5) Dryvit operates on an "autsulation" principle in Which the building insulation is attached to the exterior wall which reduces the temperature differential experienced by the internal structural components. /•3719 MICRDFILMED RY ` 'JORM MICROLAB j CEDAR RAPIDS -DES MOINES J J_ HOTEL STEERING COMMITTEE JULY 7, 1983 PAGE 3 It was noted the Eagle grocery stores in Coralville and Wardway Plaza as well as Ecumenical Towers and Capitol House have used Dryvit. (The Eagle stores use the Dryvit as decorative paneling.) A reference sheet of projects using Dryvit in Iowa was presented to the Committee (and are attached to the minutes). It was noted that Dryvit comes with a five year warranty and is approved by HUD. Responding to a question regarding control joints on the Dryvit system, he noted there have been no problems with water infiltration. He did say the polystyrene will absorb up to about four percent of its weight in water and if it froze, it could pop off the surface facia, but he said this problem resulting from freeze -thaw conditions will happen to other materials. Lassic said there had been no problems of this sort with any of the Dryvit systems installed in Iowa. Lutz noted that Dryvit system does not require control joints but are often installed for aesthetic reasons. Perret wanted to know if there was any preference as to whether the Oryvit would be applied in the field or by prefabricated panels. Vijums stated a preference for panels because of better quality controls. He did not know what size the panels would be because that would depend on the architect. Vijums noted the panels could be as tall as one story. Berlin said the key was how the architect used the materials in the building. Hayek asked the question as to what the approval process by the Committee was to be for the exterior material choice. He said that in his mind there were two choices: use of a synthetic stucco or more traditional material such tor had indicated the ng would have a life-spanaof 40 years. cHetisctroubled by the building�i sexpected longevity or its lack and that this building could have aesthetic and functional problems in 20-25 years if Dryvit was used. He feels there is a considerable difference in terms of the aesthetic impact between the use of rick ures the downtown. He furtheristated t on hhehdisagreed with the otel and the other bconcept roftnsuch alimit d life -span on such a major building in the downtown. He felt the cost differences between Dryvit and a brick exterior amortized over the building's life- span are substantive when evaluated on aesthetic and maintenance viewpoints. For that reason, he favored use of brick or a more traditional building material. betterAmert said she understood why light-weight ere being advocated by thedeveloper.Ho ever,she is concerned materials c nce ned aboutwthe urrounded environment and its long-term Dryvit appearance in a brick -s life, especially because of how Dryvit or another synthetic stucco system is assembled. She stated her preference for a more stable and proven natural material for the hotel exterior. She felt it would present a more pleasing appearance. In answer to a question as to what the Design Review Committee opinion on Dryvit was, Amert stated she thought there would be a genuinely negative reaction by the committee; it had briefly looked at the apromotional nd was not at allials and a enthus asticryvit aboutsample at its use forttheune hotel, 1983, meeting /377 C; i MICROFILMED BY i' '.JORM MICROLAB CEDAR RAPIDS -DES 1401NES N HOTEL STEERING COMMITTEE JULY 7, 1983 PAGE 4 Hayek wanted to know if the Design Review Committee could meet within a week to evaluate Dryvit further. Hauer stated she could try but it was a problem getting a quorum. Berlin noted the Committee was set up to expedite the design approval process so decisions would not be kicked around between the Council and Design Review Committee. Vijums stated he would like to clarify his comment with regard to the 40 year life -span of the building. He said the building would still have its structural integrity but that in 40 years, the interior would need updating as would the exterior. Berlin stated he was very uncomfortable without the architect's verbal and visual articulation of what this material (Dryvit) will look like on the building. Berlin said he also needed information on other materials to be used in the building such as trim and glass before he could make up his mind on a final basis. Perret shared Berlin's feelings. Lutz noted there are polymer finishes which can be used like paint to repair and maintain the Dryvit appearance. Perret stated he wished to see a visual rendering of the hotel. Hayek noted he could understand the developer's reluctance to expend the dollars necessary for the rendering. Beck said he was looking for a tentative approval of an exterior material subject to specific considerations of the Committee. Hayek stated he was not personally willing to make a decision on the exterior materials because of the insufficient information provided to -date. He again noted that brick was his preference for an exterior material. Berlin said the major issue in the choice of an exterior material was how the building materials would relate to the City Plaza. Berlin said he needed information on how the bottom floors of the hotel are to be treated. He noted perhaps different materials could be used for the bottom floors with the Dryvit utilized for the dormitory tower. Perret stated the Committee has not said it is opposed to using Dryvit but that it needed a visual evaluation of what the building would look like before it could approve material. Hayek said he was afraid the Committee was "over-technilizing" the design process. He thought while it would be nice to have renderings, enough other information has been provided to give the developer a tentative opinion at this time. Beck stated the developer will not build a brick building. He also said the Committee was glib about spending other people's money. Hayek replied that the Committee was not being glib but that Dryvit is not consistent with the effort and time spent on other buildings in the downtown urban renewal projects. Hayek said that the Committee is very much aware that Dr. Johnson's money is building the hotel. /3719 lMICROFILMED BY �! '.JORM MICROLAB i CEDAR RAPIDS -DES MOINES r __ J HOTEL STEERING COMMITTEE JULY 7, 1983 PAGE 5 Amert stated that the facade material discussion has not been very decision to-date. nthe exteriorsmaterialhbutahetatese hdnfel�t Dryvit was ntent of rnotyingequalto the other qualities of the hotel structure. Further, she stated she doesn't regret that Dr. Johnson did not desire to use brick because she thought that was a good decision. However, she felt there were other natural materials which could be used to good effect. Beck noted the dollars for the project are especially being used on the interior portions. Vijums said stucco was the same stucco has a tendency to crack He also stated that Dryvit has a as synthetic stucco in many ways but that ;o there are greater maintenance problems. greater energy efficiency than stucco. Perret wanted to know what would happen spandrels with Dryvit surrounding it. textures and colors can be made to look a variety of other materials. if natural materials were used as Vijums said that the Dryvit like pre -cast concrete as well as After some discussion, the Committee generally thought there were creative compromises to be made between the use of Dryvit in entirety on the building and another material to be used entirely on the building. Beck stated he will authorize the rendering of the building with an exterior material shown. Berlin thought it would be beneficial for the Committee to speak on the phone with the architect to relay their ideas and opinions. Beck replied the expertise for the hotel design is being provided by the developer and did not think it wouldbe very useful to have the Committee talk with the architect. He also stated he did not know when the renderings would be available. Hayek stated that what was being left unsaid in this entire discussion is that whatever design the developer comes up with is the design that will be presented to the City. The developer should be aware that the City can choose not to approve the design and Hayek thought a discussion with the architect would be very useful in resolving design issues. The discussion then returned to the use of Dryvit. The question was asked as to why the samples presented to the Committee had different numbers of layers of mesh. Vijums replied that Dryvit comes in different hardnesses and the one with the most heaviest layers of mesh had a high durability factor which would be used in the vandal/heavy use areas. Amert asked if A&P had ever used Dryvit as a new building material (as opposed to using it on a retrofit project). Vijuns said that A&P had never used it on a new project but that he felt confident in recommending it. Lassic said a local architectural firm (Hansen Lind Myer) had specified Dryvit for three different hospital projects in the past year. Perret requested the architectural drawings of the design changes mentioned by the developer be presented to the Committee. Vijums presented additional information on plans. He stated that in two weeks the architect should have specifications on the hotel which would allow information such as the window size and trim to be specified. ,Y 1 FI j MICROFILMED BY Vi' JORM MICROLAB CEDAR RAPIDS -DES MOINES HOTEL STEERING COMMITTEE JULY 7, 1983 PAGE 6 It was suggested that a joint Design Review Committee/Steering Committee meeting be held next time design plans and materials are presented. The Committee concurred. The meeting was adjourned by general consensus at 10:35 a.m. Submitted by: �f ems/✓///. X a Andrea Hauer i r i R 0