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HOUSING APPEALS BOARD
MARCH 9, 1982 8:00 AM
MEMBERS PRESENT:
MEMBERS ABSENT:
STAFF PRESENT:
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Goldene Haendel, Mike Farran, Rachel Dennis, Mark
Koenig.
Carol Karstens.
David Brown, Michael Kucharzak, Kelley Vezina, Judy
Hoard, Larry Kinney.
SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION AND ACTION TAKEN:
Goldene Haendel called the meeting to order. Rachel Dennis moved that the
minutes from the previous Board meeting be approved, this motion was seconded by
Mike Farran. The motion carried.
APPEAL OF MR. ALEX GILLETT:
Others present: Alex Gillett
Kelley Vezina reported that he did a complaint inspection at 728 Bowery on
December 8, 1981. He received Mr.' Gillett's appeal request on
December 30, 1981, in which Mr. Gillett was appealing three violations.
Inspector Vezina dismissed one of these violations, Chapter 17-7.L ,, heating or
cooling equipment not maintained in good condition, as after returning to the
pdiscussed was
roperty he decided that this was not an actual violation. The first violation
west room of apartpment 3ter 7is deteriorat dn'9 on west and northwest windows in the
Mr. Gillett raised the question as
do this inspection wto whether Inspector Vezina has the right to
ithout notifying him and asked to see the record concerning
who filed this complaint.
Mr. Kucharzak explained that the inspector does have the right to do the
inspection without the owner being notified and that the inspector can cite
violations in any area the tenant has control of.
Mr. Gillett explained further that he had personally taken all of the windows
Out of this unit to clean and replace broken panes. He felt that there were no
significant amounts of glazing missing, although there might have been a few
cracks in the putty. Mr. Gillett brought a window from this unit in for the
Board to review.
Mr. Kucharzak reading from the property record
not habitable and that because of this fact the violation w uld not, ointed Out attbe required.
Mr.
Mr. Kucharzak then read from the record the account of the complaint by the
tenant in which she was complaining of lack of heat in this room.
Mark Koenig made a motion to re -define this room as a non -habitable room and
therefore dismiss this violation. Rachel seconded the motion.
violation was dismissed. Motion carried,
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The next appeal discussed was Chapter 17-7.0. burners on stoves will not light
when gas is turned on. Inspector Vezina pointed out that the pilots were not
lit, requiring a match to light the burner.
Mr. Gillett explained that the stove was not being kept in a clean condition and
the pilots were plugging up. Therefore when the tenant turned the burner on it
would not light. Mr. Gillett turned off the pilots and posted a sign that the
burners must be lit with a match.
Larry Kinney commented that this was a very unsafe situation. The possibility
of the burner being turned on without knowing it and then lighting a match or a
cigarette.
Rachel Dennis made a motion to uphold the violation. Mark Koenig seconded the
motion. Motion carried.
The last appeal to be discussed, Chapter 17-5.I.(2)(f), insufficient means of
egress, was withdrawn by Mr. Gillett.
APPEAL OF MR. RICHARD FOX:
Others present: Richard'Fox
Kelley Vezina reported that he did a licensing inspection at 946 Iowa Avenue on
January 4, 1982. He received Mr. Fox's appeal of Chapter 17-5.N(4), lack of
required ceiling height, on January 21, 1962. This appeal concerns a basement
unit in which the southwest bedroom has a ceiling height of 619", the northeast
bedroom has a ceiling height of 6'9k", the kitchen and living room have a
ceiling height that ranges from 6'6h".
Mr. Fox felt that this was a minor deficiency. He explained that two persons
currently rent this room and they have. no problems with the height of the
ceiling. He mentioned that part of the ceiling in the kitchen and living room
was tiled, and that this could be removed which would leave the ceilig height at
about 619".
Mark Koenig made a motion to grant a variance concerning the ceiling height in
both the bedrooms and to grant a continuance so that Mr. Fox can look into the
possibilities of raising the ceiling in the kitchen and living room. Rachel
Dennis seconded the motion. Motion carried.
APPEAL OF MR. & MRS. ALFRED HULSE:
Others present: Mr. & Mrs. Alfred Hulse
Judy Hoard reported that she did a licensing inspection at 712-12h Woodside
Drive on January 18, 1982. Mr. & Mrs. Hulse were appealing three violations
that were cited at that inspection. Two of these violations related to a room in
the basement which contained no windows. These violations were Chapter 17-
S.J.(1), lack of required natural light and Chapter 17-5.K.(2)(b), lack of
required natural ventilation. Inspector Hoard explained that Mr. & Mrs. Hulse
planned to convert this room to their own use once the present tenants left,
which will be some time in June of this year.
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Mr. Hulse pointed out that they planned to make this room into more storage
space for themselves, but if they did not, could this room be declared non -
habitable and still be used by the tenants?
Mr. Kucharzak pointed out that the room could be declared non -habitable and be
used for storage by either the tenants or the Hulses'.
Mark Koenig made a motion to uphold the violation and to grant an extension to
Mr. & Mrs. Hulse until June 15, 1982. Rachel Dennis second the motion.
The
peal was of
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Judy Hoard aexplained thatCthetceiling 17-5.N.4),
ln(the other bedroomiof the basement unit
had a ceiling height of 619h".
Mr. Hulse pointed out that the heating duct work was directly above the ceiling
and that it would be impossible to correct this violation.
Mark Koenig made a motion to grant a variance. Rachel Dennis seconded the
motion. Motion carried.
APPEAL OF MR. MARSHALL HUNTER: j
Others present: Marshall Hunter I
Judy Hoard explained that the Board had heard an appeal of Mr. Hunter in January
and at that time had dismissed the violation. Inspector Hoard then recited the
violation under Chaper 17-7.A.(5), second floor unit lacks keyed lock entry
door. Mr. Hunter is appealing this violation. She explained that the second
floor apartment does not have its own door.
Mr. Hunter pointed out that he has had no complaints from the tenants nor has he
ever had any problems with this situation. The outer door. into the common
hallway is always locked. He also mentioned that putting a door in at the top of
the stairway would inhibit movement of large objects or furniture in and out of
the apartment. He also mentioned that it could be a possible fire hazard since
the tenant would have to go through two locked doors in order to get of the
building.
Rachel Dennis made a motion to uphold the violation. Mark Koenig seconded the
motion. Mark Koenig pointed out that the Board would be glad to work with Mr.
Hunter and grant him an extension of time to complete the work, if needed.
Motion carried.
At this time David Brown reported that after reviewing the Housing Appeal Board
By -Laws, he found that Goldene Haendel as the chairperson, was not prohibited
from making motions or participating in the voting.
Mark Koenig made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Mike Farran seconded the
motion. Motion carried. Meeting was adjourned.
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APRIL 13, 1982 -- 8:00 AM
MEMBERS PRESENT: Goldene Haendel, Mike Farran, Rachel Dennis, Mark
Koenig
MEMBERS ABSENT: Carol Karstens
STAFF PRESENT: David Brown, Michael Kucharzak, Kelley Vezina, Judy
Hoard, Larry Kinney
SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION AND ACTION TAKEN:
Chairperson Haendel called the meeting to order. Mark Koenig moved that
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the minutes from the previous Board meeting be approved, this motion
seconded by Dennis. The motion carried.
APPEAL OF MR. JAMES HINSHAW:
Others present: Joe Raftis, Eric Danielson
Mr. Hinshaw is no longer house manager at 724 N. Dubuque; Mr. Raftis was
from the Appeals
present to testify in his place.. This case was continued
February 11, 1982, the violation that was continued was
Board hearing on
Chapter 17-5.N.(4) lack of required ceiling height in a basement sleeping
room at 619h". This was a suspended ceiling and the Board wanted to know
the of raising
what was under the ceiling tile to investigate possibility
the ceiling. Ms. Hoard presented pictures of the ceiling which showed a
network of heating pipes.
Mr. Raftis commented that it would be very difficult to raise the ceiling j
because of the existence of the pipes.
Koenig made a motion to grant a variance of Chapter 17-5.N.(4) lack of
required ceiling height. Dennis seconded the motion. Motion carried.
Inspector Hoard pointed out that Mr. Raftis had done some investigating of
methods to raise the door into the basement rooming unit. They wanted the
door jamb and thereby
feelings of the Board concerning removing. the
the door height to 612". The Board
gaining 2 more inches, raising
responded that they would like to see what the advice of a contractor or
architect would be concerning the removal of the door jamb. They invited
Mr. Raftis to report back to them with his findings.
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APPEAL OF MS. MARQUERITE WELTER
Others present: Marquerite Welter
Inspector Kelley J. Vezina reported that a licensing inspection was done
at 926-26h N. Dodge on October 28, 1981. On December 4, 1981, an appeal
request was received concerning three violations. The first violation was
Chapter 17-5.J. lack of required natural light in unit 926h in the east
bedroom.
Ms. Welter pointed out that several of the violations cited and appealed
were violations that occur in her owner -occupied unit.
The second violation discussed was Chapter 17-5.N.(4) lack of required
minimum ceiling height in the kitchen in unit 926h at WW'. This is a
"step up" kitchen which consequently reduces the ceiling height.
The third violation was 17-5.I.(1) lack of required means of egress in the
second floor sleeping rooms. This violation occurs in unit 926 which. is a
two story unit; it was over, a 9' drop from the windows to the ground level.
At this time, Kucharzak pointed out that the Council is taking under
consideration the inspection of owner -occupied portions of duplexes.
Since a decision has not been made by Council on what code violations
should apply to owner -occupied units and coupled with that there is a code
amendment to define the number of required exits for duplexes differently,
the Board may wish to defer any decision until the Council advises the
staff of their intent concerning duplexes. Mr. Kucharzak went on to.
explain that the City Council is proposing that rather than enforcing the
minimum structural standards against the owner -occupied portion, they are
considering granting an exemption and not mandating an inspection of those
items. But should this unit become tenant occupied it would have to meet
all current structural standards. All health and safety violations would
be cited.
Dennis moved that the Board defer this matter until the decision from the
Council has been rendered. Farran seconded that motion. Motion carried.
APPEAL OF MR. DEAN OAKES
Others present: Mr. Marion Neely
Inspector Hoard reported that she did a licensing inspection at 624 S.
Clinton on December 31, 1981, and on January 11, 1982. April 12, 1982,
she performed a reinspection at this property and a number of the appealed
violations have been corrected. There were two remaining violations that
he wished to appeal. The first violation was Chapter 17-5.K.(3)(c) lack
of adequate ventilation in the kitchen in apartment N2. This kitchen is
an inner room, there are no outside walls and there is no mechanical
ventilation.
Mr. Neely requested that the Board grant a variance with the stipulation
that Mr. Oakes place a ventless fan in the kitchen. It would be very
costly to attempt to put in a fan vented to the outside and as of this time
there have been no complaints from the tenants concerning the kitchen.
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Koenig made a motion to grant a variance of Chapter 17-5.K.(3)(C) lack of
adequate ventilation, with the stipulation that a ventless fan be
installed. Mike Farran seconded the motion. Motion carried.
The second violation being appealed is Chapter 17-5.M.(1) lack of required
electrical outlet. This is in apartment #3, the bedroom lacks the second
convenience outlet. When the reinspection was done the second convenience
outlet had been installed, however, it was not the required distance
apart.
Mr. Neely explained that the electrician had probably put the outlets
where they were the most accessible. He requested that the Board would
grant a variance as Mr: Oakes was attempting to comply although the outlet
was not the correct distance apart.
Koenig made a motion that the Board defer action on this violation until
the reason for this placement of the outlet could be discovered. Rachel
Dennis seconded the motion. Motion carried.
APPEAL OF MR. GARY GRANTHAM
Others present: Mr. 3 Mrs. Gary Grantham
Vezina reported that he did a licensing inspection at 841-43 St. Ann's
Drive on January 28, 1982. On March 3, 1982, an appeal was filed
concerning three violations, all of which were cited in unit 841, in the
basement. All three violations tie in together, the first, Chapter 17-
5.I.(2)(e) basement lacks adequate egress and the second, Chapter 17-
5.J.(1) lack of required natural light, pertain to both the northeast and
southeast bedrooms. The third violation was Chapter 17-5.L.(4) improper
location of heating unit, pertains to the northeast bedroom only.
Mr. Grantham pointed out that this unit was rented as a two bedroom
apartment and both of the bedrooms are upstairs. The rooms in the
basement that are being used as sleeping rooms were not intended for that
purpose.
Koenig made a motion that the two basement bedrooms be considered non -
habitable and therefore uphold the violations, forcing the tenants to
vacate those rooms. Rachel Dennis seconded the motion. Motion carried.
Attorney Brown pointed out that if after 90 days, the time for
reinspection, the tenants have not vacated it, would still be the owner's
responsibility to correct these violations or remove the tenants.
APPEAL OF MR. STEVE ISSEN
Others present: Mr. Steve Issen, Mr. William Kelley, Mr. Gene Kroeger.
Hoard reported that she did a licensing inspection at 508 N. Dubuque on
February 2, 1982. This is a seven rooming unit and one dwelling unit. The
first violation, Chapter 17-5.I.(1) Lack of Required Means of Egress. The
rooms in question are on the second and third floors on the west side of
the structure. There is a fire escape on the east side of the structure
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which is outside of the rooming units on that side of the building,
therefore, the roams on the west side do not have access to that fire
escape.
Mr. Kelley pointed out that this violation was not cited previously in an
inspection done in 1979. Mr. Issen explained that he did not feel break
away doors were a safe alternative. He felt that he could issue keys to
the neighboring tenants allowing them access to the fire escape in an
emergency.
Kinney noted that in an emergency using a key to unlock an access to a fire
exit is not efficient or'advised.
Mr. Issen pointed out that they had asked that an inspection of the
property be done before they purchased it, but that the Housing Inspection
Department was unable to do so due to staffing reasons. They obtained a
copy -of the 1979 inspection letter and used it for a means to decide
whether they wanted to buy the property.
Haendel made a motion to uphold the violation, Chapter 17-5.I.(1) Lack of
Required Means of Egress, with the suggestion that the owners could meet
with Larry Kinney concerning alternatives. Mike Farran seconded the
motion. Motion carried.
The next two violations were discussed together as they are in conjunction
with one another. Chapter 17-5.J.(1), Lack of Required Natural Light,
and Chapter 17-5.K.(2)(b), Lack of Required Natural Ventilation, in the
basement rooming unit.
Mr. Issen questioned the Board as to why these violations were not cited
during the 1979 -inspection. He also reiterated that they had requested an
inspection before they purchased the property and this request was denied.
Kucharzak agreed that the staff was reduced and that for this reason an
inspection request may have been denied. The Housing Inspection Division
is not obligated to do request inspections. These inspections are done if
time permits. He also pointed out that the violations cited at this time
may not have been violations in 1979.
Farran made a motion to uphold both violations; Chapter 17-5.J.(1), Lack
of Required Natural Light, and Chapter 17-5.K.(2)(b), Lack of Required
Natural Ventilation, in the basement rooming unit. Rachel Dennis seconded
the motion. Motion carried.
The next violation was Chapter 17-5.K.(3)(a), Lack of Required Adequate
Mechanical Ventilation, in the basement bathroom. There is no window in
the bathroom and the Code requires mechanical ventilation.
Mr. Kelley. and Mr. Issen's argument was again that this violation was not
cited in 1979.
Haendel made a motion to uphold the violation, Chapter 17-5. K. (3) (a), Lack
of Required Adequate Mechanical Ventilation. Dennis seconded the motion.
Motion carried.
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The next violation was Chapter 17-5.M.(1), Lack of Required Electrical
Outlet. This violation was found in the first floor apartment in the
bedroom. The convenience outlets were not spaced adequately.
Mr. Issen reiterated that this was not cited in 1979. He also felt that
the difference in a few feet was not a major health and safety factor.
Kucharzak pointed out that this Code section was not in the previous
Housing Code.
Kinney commented that the purpose for this Code section was to prevent the
need and use of extension cords.
A motion was made by Farran to grant a variance; however, there was no
second and he withdrew his motion.
Haendel made a motion to uphold the violation, Chapter 17-5.M.'(1), Lack of
Required Electrical Outlet. Farran seconded the motion. Motion carried.
The last violation discussed was Chapter 17-S.N.(4), Lack of Required
Ceiling Height, in the basement rooming unit. The ceiling height for part
' of this unit is 612" and the rest of the unit is at 71.
There was discussion on possible alternatives. Dennis made a motion to
uphold Chapter 17-5.N.(4), Lack of Required Ceiling Height. Farran
seconded the motion. Motion carried.
Kucharzak remarked that it was obvious that the property owners were
agitated by Code changes and previous inspection records that do not tell
the whole story. For their information, this problem is not unique to
this structure. As a result, when the new Code was written the task force
suggested a Certificate of Structure Compliance be issued which would deal
once with the issues of ceiling height, window size, etc. Once the
building was certified and if the Code would change, these issues would be
"grandfathered" in.
Mr. Kucharzak added that there have been changes in procedures for file
'documentation. If a room is unoccupied at the time of the inspection
there are no Cade violations cited. At this time the inspectors mark the
floor plans or make a note in the file that a particular room was
unoccupied or non -habitable at the time the last inspection was done.
Dennis made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Farran seconded the motion.
Motion carried, meeting was adjourned.
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RESOURCES CONSERVATION COMMISSION
APRIL 1, 1982 7:00 PM
CIVIC CENTER ENGINEERING CONFERENCE ROOM
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MEMBERS PRESENT: Fett, Gartland, Sheehan, Singerman.
MEMBERS ABSENT: Hamilton, Hotka.
STAFF PRESENT: Tinklenberg, Webb.
RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL:
None.
REQUESTS TO THE CITY MANAGER:
None.
SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION AND FORMAL ACTION TAKEN:
Singerman called the meeting to order. He welcomed Pat Fett back to the
Commission.' The minutes of March 22 were approved as'read.
There was a short discussion of the amount of time that the. members are
willing to put into the Commission and a discussion of the objectives
listed in the FY83 Goals and objectives.
Gartland will report next time on what possibilities exist and what the
expense would be of utilizing Cable TV to promote energy awareness.
Community Energy Use Report
The purposes for the report were again reviewed and a decision was made to
write the report in an outline format. Sheehan will draft the second half
of the report for the next meeting. Singerman will rewrite the first
section of the report to integrate information on local employment back
into the report.
Iowa -Illinois Gas & Electric Company Franchise Renewal
Sheehan volunteered to call the City Manager and the City Council members
dealing with the franchise to find out the current status.
The next meeting is scheduled for April 15, at 7:00. The meeting adjourned at
9:00 PM.
Respectfully submitted, Roger Tinklenberg:
Tony Hamilton, Secretary.
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CITY ASSESSOR PANEL
MARCH 31, 1982
CITY MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM
MEMBERS PRESENT: Dickson, Phelps, Sehr
STAFF PRESENT: Carroll
GUESTS PRESENT: Don Reed, Iowa Department of.Revenue
1. The meeting was called to order at 4:00.
2. The Committee purpose, which is to thoroughly evaluate the
qualifications of applicants for the position of City Assessor and
forward recommendations to the Conference Board, was discussed.
3. Mr. Don Reed, from the Iowa Department of Revenue, who was
responsible for Assessor testing was introduced and discussed the
duties of a City Assessor: general management of the Assessor's
office; establishing valuations of- residential, commercial, and
industrial property (Mr. Reed noted that previous industrial
experience was necessary for the Iowa City position, and that
personal property valuations were being phased out); administration
of exemptions - homestead, Veterans; providing assistance to the
Board of Review; budget development and administration for the
Assessor's office and Boards; participating in legal appeal
procedures; and the supervision of office staff, which requires
abilities to schedule workload, work with deadlines and work under
pressure.
Mr. Reed was asked about the relationship between the Assessor and
the Board of Review (which hears appeals of the valuations
established by the Assessor) and stated that the Assessor provides
information and some administrative support - scheduling hearings,
etc.
Mr. Reed was asked about the relationship between the City Assessor
and the County Assessor, and stated that although there was no formal
relationship (the positions do not work together) consistency of
procedure and valuations, as well as a harmonious working relation-
ship were important.
4. The qualifications necessary for the position of City Assessor as
proposed by Carroll and Reed, were discussed by the Committee as a
whole and included:
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A. Experience performing residential, commercial and industrial
assessment (experience must include establishing the final
valuation, rather than just data collection or related duties).
B. Public contact experience especially in dealing firmly and
fairly with the public.
C. Supervisory experience or ability.
0. Office management experience including work planning and budget
development.
The Committee decided that the following areas, which are not
absolute requirements for the job, would be given additional credit:
A. Experience/knowledge of computerized record systems, especially
if they apply to an Assessor's office.
B. Experience coordinating the work of a mass appraisal company,
or previous experience working for an appraisal company.
C. Knowledge of the Iowa, City area and properties.
0. Experience working with a legal staff in case preparation and
court testimony.
E. College degree in business administration, economics or related
area.
F. Record of continuing education, especially at a level above
that required, or attained prior to the requirement.
G. Employment stability.
H. Recognition by professional peers - i.e., a leadership position
in a professional association.
I. Professional certification (listed in order of importance):
CAE - Certified Assessment Evaluator (International
Association of Assessing Officials) - only 13-14 CAE
in Iowa
ASA - American Society of Appraisers - Senior membership
designation
RES - Residential Specialist (International Association of
Assessing Officers) only 10-12 in Iowa
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ICA - Institute of Iowa Certified Assessors - only 30 in
Iowa.
Evaluation of applicant's personal integrity and "common sense" was
discussed, and it was decided that these areas would attempt to be covered
through hypothetical situation questions.
Scores of the applicants an the Department of Revenue Assessor test will
not be considered, as they do not differ significantly.
5. The issue of salary requirements of the applicants was discussed
briefly, with the decision to leave salary to the discretion of the
Conference Board. None of the applicant's requirements exceeded the
salary approved for the position for July 1, 1982 - $34,600.
6. Anne Carroll will prepare a structured interview format for the
Co®ittee to use in interviewing applicants. The format will
incorporate the position qualifications as listed above. Applicants
will receive a copy of the questions, excluding any hypothetical
situation questions, prior to the interview and may be asked to
submit further written inforfiation regarding continuing education,
etc., at the time of the interview. Applicants will be advised of
their rights under Section 28A - Open Meetings Law - to request a
closed meeting.
7. The Comittee decided to offer an interview opportunity to all
applicants still interested in consideration for the position.
Interviews will last approximately 45 minutes.
8. Interview dates and times, as revised following the meeting, are as
follows:
Monday, April 26, 8:30-12:30, City Manager's Conference Room, Civic
Center (Committee will meet at 8:00 a.m.)
Wednesday, April 28, 8:30-12:30, Iowa City Recreation Center, Room
A - interviews may also continue into the afternoon depending
upon the number of applicants requesting interviews.
9. The meeting adjourned at 5:40.
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HOTEL/DEPARTMENT STORE
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATING COMMITTEE
MARCH 17, 1982 7:00 PM
CITY MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM
MEMBERS PRESENT: McDonald, Perret, Amert, Eckholt, Berlin, Hayek
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Boothroy, Hauer, Helling, Schmeiser, Strader
(Zuchelli, Hunter & Associates)
GUESTS: Tom Muller, members of news media
DISCUSSION: .
(At the March 3, 1982 City Council meeting, the Council indicated approval ,of
the creation of a six member steering committee composed of two members each
from the Council, City staff, and the Design Review Committee. This committee
was created to comment on and to review preliminary plans and designs for the
hotel/department store complex that will be located on urban renewal Parcels 64-
1 and 82-l.b. )
The meeting was called to order at 7:01 P.M. Strader presented schematic
representations of the department store and hotel. He stated these drawings
represent the second iteration of design and thus were more detailed than what
had been shown the Council on March 3rd. The department store was placed on the
east end of the parcel and extended 10 feet into the College Street right-of-
way. The store has two entrances on City Plaza; one was on the Linn -College
Street intersection and the other was near the wooden play sculpture on City
Plaza. The hotel site is on the west end of the parcel with its dormitory block
set on the south portion of the parcel by the Block 82 alley. The set back of
the dormitory block will allow for more sunlight on the City Plaza. A 24 foot
wide walk-through in the hotel structure was shown for the pedestrian traffic
travelling on Dubuque Street.
Strader said the major difference between this schematic and the one shown to
Council on March 3rd was a 10,000 square foot decrease in small store retail
space. He then concluded his presentation with additional details on the
locations of different items (restaurant, back -of -the -house functions) within
the hotel parcel.
Hayek began the discussion by asking why all of the detailing for the hotel
parcel was necessary. Strader replied that it was necessary for the
determination of the building envelope. Hayek then asked if a developer would
accept this degree of essentially a pre planned interior. Strader said there
would probably be high acceptance because of Zuchelli, Hunter and Associates'
previous experience in hotel development. Hayek concluded by saying he would
like to be persuaded that this approach will work.
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McDonald indicated that he agrees with Hayek's concern.
Berlin said Zuchelli will be contacting hotel developers in the next week and
detailing the City's ideas regarding design and procedures (prospectus and
contract requirements). The feedback from these discussions will give the City
an idea as to whether this approach is on- or off-track. Berlin remarked that he
had talked to a hotel developer who would only be interested in this project if
the design parameters had already been determined.
Perret wanted to know if Strader was still fluid in the design and was able to
refine the schematics as per developer comments. He also wanted to know if this
procedure of allowing a potential developer to say what he/she did or did not
like about the schematic was giving the developer "veto power". Strader
responded that the design was still fluid and changes could be made in the
design. Secondly, the communication with a developer, rather than giving them
"veto power", was really incorporating their retailing expertise into the
design.
Berlin stated this design process does not preclude the ability to use the space
in the development for other uses. This was in reference to Perret's concern
that the previously proposed small retail stores on the northern flank of the
department store were not in 'this design because of adverse remarks from an
interested department store developer.
Strader said the design approach for the site was not market-based in that the
amount of small retail store space was determined from a market analysis but
rather, design was a "fall -out" from space requirements for the department store
and hotel and the space limitations of the site. Perret then asked if the
interested department store had indicated satisfaction with the additional
small retail stores, would the small stores have been included in the design?
Strader replied affirmatively, but that the deleted retail space (approximately
6,000 to 8,000 square feet) was quite small in terms of the whole development.
McDonald stated his concern of not flooding the downtown market with additional
retail space.
Tom Muller, a member of the audience, asked if the hotel restaurant which was
presently placed on the ground floor, could be moved to the top floor so as to
create additional ground floor retail space. Strader indicated it could be, but
his present desire was to keep the restaurant on the street level.
Perret indicated his pleasure with this new design and that he liked the
additional angles in the hotel portion. Strader said he wanted to amend his
previous remark of the design being fluid; some portions of the hotel design
were already fairly fixed because of their space requirements. Perret then
asked if the hotel dormitory block could be moved to a north -south orientation
or placed on a diagonal. Strader said this could be done; however, he thinks the
present design matches the geometry of other buildings in the downtown. Also,
the more angles a building has, the more difficult and expensive it is to
construct.
Berlin stated the purpose of the meeting tonight was essentially to set where
the line of demarcation between the hotel/department store was to be and also to
approve the general concept of design as it had been presented by Strader.
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Hayek said it was difficult to dispute whether this demarcation line should be
placed exactly where Strader had shown or if it should be moved somewhat to the
east or to the west.
McDonald wanted to know if the interested department store liked the idea of
being placed on the east end of the site. Strader stated that they seemed to be
very pleased, especially because of the close placement next to the parking ramp
entrance.
Perret wanted to know how the proposed Linn Street curb design for the
department store would affect Linn Street. Strader said the City's streetscape
design will be extended around the department store site onto Linn Street which
will allow for uniform treatmeht of the curb line.
Berlin stated one of the major concerns of this committee will be the decisions
regarding exterior material options. Strader said at this time he was most
interested in using brick for the department store exterior, with precast
concrete or other masonry treatments as a second option. With regard to the
hotel, he had no strong ideas other than wanting the department store and hotel
exterior treatments to be compatible. He thought precast concrete, which has
the advantage of being very amenable to articulation, was a likely material for
the hotel exterior. Strader said he preferred to discuss this topic at a later
stage with total cost estimates (labor, material, installation) given then.
Perret wanted to know if the Committee's approval of the schematic concept will
determine interior configurations. Strader replied the concept basically
determines the building envelope; some interior configurations for the hotel
will be set, however.
Perret requested an explanation of the mechanics of the Dubuque Street walk-
through. Strader reviewed the dimensions and said that it should be maintained
as a public right-of-way. The Committee indicated general approval.
Amert was concerned about the possibility of the west 195 feet of the department
store wall appearing as. a "monolithic" blank wall if the hotel was not
constructed concurrently with the department store. She wanted to know what
could be done if this occurred. Strader said hopefully this would not be a
problem; temporary landscaping or a mural could mitigate the blank wall. If it
becomes clear that there would not be hotel constructed in the near future, he
said the City should perhaps consider redesigning this parcel for another use
such as office space, rather than retaining it for hotel usage.
Amert then wanted to know who were the principals in carrying out negotiations
with the developers. Berlin responded it was Zuchelli and he, with Hayek when
legal issues are raised. Berlin elaborated upon the negotiations procedure.
All developers who have ever evinced interest in of the site, in addition to
developers Zuchelli knows, are being contacted. Concurrently, a prospectus and
other documents for the site are being developed. The following step will then
be Committee review of the prospectus and associated documents, especially with
regard to design language.
The meeting waaaj.s� adjourned
by general acclaim at 8:25 P.M.
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PRELIMINARY
Subject to Approval
MINUTES
HOTEUDEPARTMENT STORE DEVELOPMENT COORDINATING COMMITTEE
APRIL 9, 1982 4:00 P.M.
CITY MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM
MEMBERS PRESENT: Perret, Amert, Eckholt, Berlin, Hayek
MEMBERS ABSENT: McDonald
STAFF PRESENT: Boothroy, Hauer, Helling
GUESTS PRESENT: Members of the news media
RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL:
1. The bid period for the parcel be 50 days in length (a minimum 30 days
with an additional 20 day extension period).
DISCUSSION:
The meeting was called to order at 4:14 P.M. Berlin indicated his desire
to have the materials for site disposition out as soon as possible and the
purpose of this meeting is to review the prospectus for Parcel 64-1a.
Perret requested information on what will be the process for the land
disposition; specifically, he wanted to know if it would be in the form of
a prospectus, land contract, and other documents used by the City in the
past. Berlin replied affirmatively.
Perret began the discussion by asking why this prospectus was so different
from former prospecti issued by the City. Berlin stated that this would
be explained as this document was reviewed on a point -by -point basis.
Perret questioned the bid period length and whether it should be 30 or 50
y days. Perret reiterated that the Council had, at its meeting on March 3,
unanimously made the decision that the bid period should be 50 days. He
further explained he did not support the 30 day bid period as suggested by
the draft prospectus because he felt that it gave an unfair advantage to
Armstrong's, Inc. (the department store which has publicly indicated its
desire to bid on this site).
Berlin replied that under Chapter 403 of the Code of Iowa, a 30 day bid
period is legal. Hayek confirmed this fact but felt the 30 day bid period
was too short. Hayek stated that Zuchelli, Hunter & Associates (ZHA) had
previously recommended a 50 day bid period as being optimal and thus,
Hayek does not see anything to justify decreasing the bid period length.
Berlin replied that Zuchelli feels the completed design work has made the
previously recommended longer bid period unnecessary. Perret repeated
the Council had specifically agreed on a 50 day bid period as being a
compromise between 30 days (the shortest possible bid period) and 90 days
(the traditional bid period length for urban renewal parcels). In
addition, he did not feel that substantitive design work for the
department store had been done.
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Berlin said the details of the disposition process had changed somewhat
since the last meeting of the Committee in that more specific information•
is available than was before.
Eckholt then asked about the list of addresses of department stores
attached to the draft prospectus. Berlin stated the list contained
department stores in the region as well as other entities which had
indicated a possible interest in the development.
Perret stated that the disposition process is three weeks behind time as
measured by the ZHA contract's work schedule. According to the schedule,
the prospectus was to have been done by March 22. He was not happy with
ZHA because the prospectus seems to have required a good deal of City
staff work while the ZHA contract states it will do the prospectus. Also,
he was concerned about the lack of contact with the different department
stores; he thought Zuchelli had told the Council that he (Zuchelli) would
be contacting department stores immediately after the March 3rd Council
meeting. Perret concluded by stating he thinks there has been a change in
the work program, and that this change has not been reviewed by the
Committee and was of concern to the Committee.
Berlin replied that Perret should not lose sight of the Committee's
objective of getting a department store on the site and in operation as
soon as was possible.
Hayek stated the Committee should decide 'whether or not to make a
recommendation to the Council after the length of the bid period.
Eckholt was not sure if the 50 day bid period would be too long or too
short given there had not been personal contact made with the different
department stores. Discussion ensued over whether the Committee should
recommend a bid period length or whether this was entirely a City Council
prerogative.
Hauer questioned the problem of a 30 day bid period with a 15 day
extension period. Perret replied that it puts a burden on the applicant
requesting the extension and could put the applicant at a slight
disadvantage because the City staff and Council could feel that the
redeveloper was not competent because of his/her inability to put a bid
together in 30 days.
Berlin cited the example of the Old Public Library in which a bidder had
requested an extension. Berlin did not feel this extension had created
any of the problems that Perret raised.
Perret said another concern of his was that the other Council members may
feel that the 30 day bid period cited in the draft prospectus was a set
date and could not be changed. He then recommended a 50 day bid period.
Eckholt supported this proposal.
The Committee further discussed this issue. The major points were: (1)
whether a shorter bid period allowed an unfair advantage to Armstrong's;
and (2) whether the shortened bid period was due more to the fact that ZHA
was behind schedule rather than any changed circumstances such as design
schematics. Hauer suggested lengthening the extension period to 20 days.
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Hayek moved that the bid period be set at 30 days with a 20 day extension
period possible if the developer requests an extension. Eckholt seconded.
There were four ayes (Berlin, Hayek, Amert, and Eckholt), one nay
(Perret), and one absent (McDonald).
Perret questioned why the prospectus stated that no elaborate models or
displays would be accepted by the City. The question was answered in a
roundabout fashion with a discussion on the design work done to date and
what a schematic does and does not represent. All Committee members
agreed that the schematics shown to the Committee by ZHA detailed the
basic shapes, locations, and the footprints of the hotel and department
store. The Committee diverged as to whether the schematics shown at its
March 17th meeting were of a very general nature or represented a
reasonable rendering of what the building would look like when built.
Hayek felt that this difference of opinion arose because City staffinembers
(Berlin and Hauer) thought ZHA was to provide the building design and its
details as a given to prospective developers while he and Perret thought
ZHA was to provide preliminary design work prior to the bidding of the
parcel, and then, when a preferred developer was selected, ZHA and the
preferred developer were to work together on a specific design. Thus,
Hayek said, bidders for the site would have to present some sort of plan,
design, or narrative detailing their choice of facade materials, size of
windows and the like.
Eckholt replied that he thought the City was playing the role of "super
developer" and the building facade and other details would already be
designed at the time of the bid period with the developer not permitted to
deviate from the ZHA design.
Hayek felt since the Committee had only met once and that meeting's
purpose was only to approve a general concept for the site, the decisions
necessary for the "super developer" approach could not have been made.
Perret's understanding was the City would "call the shots" for the basic
design work and the exact details of the final design would be left up to
the developer.
Amert stated a way to work out this issue was to approach it from the
viewpoint of how much information the Council will require in order to
differentiate among bids. In other words, if more than one bid was
received for this site and each bid was equally strong in terms of
developer's reputation, financial capability and the like, then the
design information would become relevant. Hauer stated that the basic
issue appeared to be when the design work occurs; should it occur before
the bids period or after the bids are in?
The Committee indicated that language should be inserted in the prospectus
stating the City will provide design schematics of a general nature to the
developer but specific details, such as facade materials and the like,
should be included as part of the developer's bid narrative.
Eckholt left at 5:45 p.m.
Berlin stated it was very important the Committee indicate when it is
making decisions and exactly what the decision is.
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Hayek felt the Committee should make its decisions in the future by using
motions. Perret favored this procedure and also indicated there should be
a secretary present to take minutes and to tape-record the meeting.
Several other members of the Committee indicated their assent.
Perret suggested that language be inserted into the prospectus stating the
schematics represent the City's desire for the building design and the
developer should work from this design.
Hayek moved that the Committee favor a process where ZHA works with the
developer on design issues after the designation of the preferred
developer. Eckholt seconded and the motion passed unanimously. There
were four ayes (Berlin, Hayek, Amert, and Perret) and two absent (McDonald
and Eckholt).
Perret and Hayek discussed the desirability of maintaining a written
record of developer requests, contract interpretations and the like.
Perret favored having a written record as has been done in the past while
Hayek favored a more flexible method of using verbal responses for minor
issues and written responses for major issues. The Committee indicated
Hayek's approach was desirable and language to this effect will be
inserted in the prospectus.
Perret and Amert indicated concern with the lateness of the ZHA work and
that they would like an accounting of why ZHA was -behind its work
schedule.
Perret compared this prospectus to previous prospecti issued for other
urban renewal parcels. The following items will be inserted in this
prospectus as per the Committee's direction.
(1)' A description of the schematic in narrative form.
(2) Language regarding the adjacent hotel development.
(3) Graphics showing the site plan and the urban renewal project area.
It was moved by Hayek and seconded by Perret to approve the preliminary
minutes from the March 17, 1982, meeting. Motion passed unanimously with
four ayes (Amert, Berlin, Hayek and Perret) and two absent (McDonald and
Eckholt). Perret again stated his desire to have a secretary at these
meetings.
The meeting was adjourned at 7:00 p.m. by general acclaim.
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