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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2008-03-03 TranscriptionMarch 3, 2008 City Council Work Session Page 1 March 3, 2008 Council Present: Staff: Other: Yapp/ Good evening. City Council Work Session 6:40 P.M. Bailey, Champion, Correia, Hayek, O'Donnell, Wilburn, Wright Karr, Helling, Dilkes, Davidson, Yapp Volland Karr/ I'm sorry. Before...I'm sorry, John. Yapp/ Excuse me! Karr/ Excuse me. We do have to add something to the agenda for tomorrow night, for posting purposes, uh, there needs to be setting of a public hearing. It's, uh, setting of a public hearing for March l lth on a purchase agreement regarding three lots, uh, at Aviation Commerce Park...North Airport Development Subdivision, and we'd like to move quickly on this, uh, so we do..:would like to set the public hearing tomorrow night and hold it on the 11th. What you have being passed out is the, uh, just the background information. Again, it's a resolution setting a public hearing. Agenda Addition: CONSENT CALENDAR: Item 4d(2): RESOLUTION SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR MARCH 11, 2008 TO APPROVE A PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF IOWA CITY AND ITC MIDWEST LLC FOR LOTS 2, 3, AND 4 AND OUTLOTS 2A, 3A, AND 4A OF THE NORTH AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT SUBDIVISION PART TWO AND TO CONSIDER A PROPOSAL TO CONVEY SAID PROPERTY. Bailey/ Okay, thanks. Dilkes/ Um, we wanted you to have the information. Obviously when we're setting it we don't have a whole lot of discussion, but...um, that'll occur at the public hearing a week from... Bailey/ Okay. Thanks. Karr/ I'm sorry, John. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular work session meeting of March 3, 2008. March 3, 2008 City Council Work Session Page 2 Football Weekend Parking Prohibition (IP3 of 2/28 Info Pkt): Yapp/ No problem! Good evening. Uh, the football game day parking, uh, issue came to light during the last football season on three streets: Weeber Street, Wylde Green Road, and Talwrn Court. The, uh, Fire Department identified these streets as streets that when there is parking on both sides, solid parking, it's very difficult for them to, uh, drive down these streets in a timely manner. We, uh, in Transportation Planning, we surveyed the neighborhoods around Kinnick Stadium during, uh, a couple of the later home football games, uh, looking for any other streets that might be issues, and for the most part, most streets already prohibit parking on one side, but these streets...during most of the year operate fine, uh, there's, uh, there can be a car here, a car there, but, uh, traveling is maintained, but during the home football games with the, uh, congested on-street parking, it has become an issue. We...we notified the neighborhood of this proposal, of all the residents on these streets, and, uh, received overwhelming support, uh, as you can see from the attached letters. Uh, we also received some requests to prohibit parking during the entire year, on one side of these streets, and I wanted to take this opportunity to, uh, let you know how we do that. iJh, when there is a safety issue proposed, or a safety issue identified, staff will propose changing parking or changing traffic control of some sort, when there's a safety issue. We'll...we still notify the affected residents, but we would forward that proposal. When there is not a safety issue, it's just a matter of neighborhood convenience or neighborhood desire, we typically do a survey, of the neighborhood residents and if a majority, uh, wish to change the on-street parking pattern, then we would bring that forward to you with the survey information. LTh, with this proposal, we would do some additional, uh, temporary signs on game days, so that, uh, people visiting and normally might park on these streets, uh, would see that yes, it is a game day and that no parking is permitted on one side. Uh, it'd be a sign similar to the rezoning notifications signs that you see, uh, real estate-size sign. Uh, and Dale has also forwarded some information to the Athletic Department, so that they are aware of this proposal, as well. Glad to take any questions. Champion/ If we have enough players for a football team, I don't have any problems with it. Wilburn/ Couple things come to mind for me. One, uh, would it be possible if, Dale, in the memo, if you could, uh, ask them to let the Alumni Association know, so they could put it out in some of their (several talking) brochures that go out, and on the web page. Helling/ We've also suggested to them, and I think they're willing to, send the information out with tickets so that people can (several talking) O'Donnell/ And I assume it's going to be posted properly. We're not going to...how many spots are we talking about? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular work session meeting of March 3, 2008. March 3, 2008 City Council Work Session Page 3 Yapp/ Uh, we looked at the aerial photos to get a handle on that. It's about a hundred all together. Wilburn/ So the second piece to that, even though it's posted and we do all these proactive efforts, we can anticipate when folks start getting tickets, we'll start getting calls. Yapp/ The City of University Heights has a very similar signs. Wilburn/ I understand that. I just, because people have their... Bailey/ Have their parking spots.. . Wilburn/ ...and they don't necessarily read the signs. Yapp/ Sure. O'Donnell/ And it's only for four hours. Wilburn/ Yeah, so....we can anticipate...steel yourselves for... Bailey/ And, my question is, will we (several talking) I mean it's tow-away zone. Do we really tow? Will we really tow? Yapp/ That will be up to the...the police enforcement on the ground at the time. They will make a determination, if the parked vehicles are blocking the road to an extent that...that emergency vehicle access is affected. Then they may tow. Bailey/ I like the temporary signs, by the way, because some of us really don't know the dates of football games. Hayek/ It sounds like, uh, staff has not yet determined that the non-football days of the year constitute a safety issue? Yapp/ We have determined that they do not. Hayek/ They do not. Okay. Yapp/ So, we will be following up with a survey. (several responding) Correia/ Because the issues...when they're solid on either side. Yapp/ Yes. (several responding) Volland/ Is it just during the game, or before, like the whole day? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular work session meeting of March 3, 2008. March 3, 2008 City Council Work Session Page 4 Yapp/ It would be the game day. Volland/ So all day. Bailey/ Are there questions for John? Thanks! Yapp/ Thank you. Agenda Items: Bailey/ Jeff. Item 6 PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS. a. AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO INCLUDE THE UPDATED HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN. Davidson/ Uh, thank you, Madame Mayor. Tomorrow, uh, at your formal meeting, Bob Miklo, Senior Planner Bob Miklo, and the Chair of the Historic Preservation Commission, Tim Weitzel, will be present for the continuation of your hearing, and then if you wish, the consideration of the Preservation Plan. Um, are there any specific questions or any issues that any of you have that you would like to raise tonight so that I can make sure Bob and Tim are prepared to address those, or if they require some kind of research that we can do that before tomorrow evening's meeting. Anything that's an outstanding issue, or...or anything that you want them to go through again, in terms of their presentation. Um, just want to make sure that we can answer anything that might be, uh, a question in your mind tomorrow. Hayek/ I think it would be helpful for me, and perhaps others, for them to walk through, um, some of the flexibility improvements, that this proposal would bring to the table, whether it's providing for administrative process, um, streamlining the site...or the design review, un, process. Those sorts of things, and I picked up on those in these voluminous materials, and I'm glad to see it. I just think it might be a good idea to highlight those a little bit. Davidson/ Will do. Bailey/ I touched base with Bob, because I bumped into him this afternoon, and talked to him a little bit about...I think one of our challenges is...are the communication strategies, and I know that's in Goal 5, but I know that communication is under, um, some other goals as well, and so I wanted him to cull out some of these as well, not only communications for particular districts, but sort of a proactive approach, um, with the marketing, that's culled out in the goal file. Davidson/ Oh, right, right, gotcha. Okay. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular work session meeting of March 3, 2008. March 3, 2008 City Council Work Session Page 5 Bailey/ Anything else? Davidson/ Okay. Did you want to see any of the graphic materials again, that were in the Power Point presentation? Hayek/ Does the public, I mean, if we're taking this up again, is there reason to go through it again just for viewers? Davidson/ We can go through as much, or...as little of it as you wish. Correia/ I think a summary recap, since it is a continuation of the public hearing, depending on...people didn't catch it last time and...and then there's no explanation but...I don't know. Davidson/ Maybe the Reader's Digest version? (several responding) Bailey/ Anything else we want from this tomorrow night? Davidson/ Okay, thank you. Item 4c(11) Class E Liquor License for Hy-Vee, Inc., dba Hy-Vee Food & Drugstore #1 & Regal Liquor, 1720 Waterfront Dr. [memorandum from the Police Chief included in council packet] Bailey/ Thanks, Jeff. Other agenda items? I just wanted to mention that I have asked, um, Dale to have, uh, the Police Chief here to talk about the Hy-Vee issue, just for our own information. This is a different type of recommendation, and I thought that might be helpful. Any other...agenda items? Item 4d(1) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING ON MARCH 11, 2008 ON PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS, FORM OF CONTRACT, AND ESTIMATE OF COST FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SENIOR CENTER BOILER AND CHILLER REPLACEMENT PROJECT, DIRECTING CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH NOTICE OF SAID HEARING, AND DIRECTING THE CITY ENGINEER TO PLACE SAID PLANS ON FILE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION. Karr/ Just want to note, um, you'll be receiving this tomorrow, but a revised, uh, estimate on 4d(1), the Senior Center boiler project. The revised estimate is $725,000. Correia/ That's significant, isn't it? Karr/ The number includes an update of all the HVAC controls. We just received that this afternoon. (several talking) This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular work session meeting of March 3, 2008. March 3, 2008 City Council Work Session Page 6 Item 4f(3) Traffic on Dubuque Street: Bryan Ringen Hayek/ There's a, uh, letter in 4f(3), from Bryan Ringen, to John. I'm not sure I follow... Correia/ Is that...I was, I saw that too. I was wondering, we...he was talking about the intersection at Church and Dubuque Streets. Champion/ Oh, yeah. What was that about? Correia/ And I was, I've been wondering if we can have aleft-turn arrow on, when you're coming, traveling south to turn left onto Church Street. Champion/ We talked about that. Bailey/ We talked about that. Champion/ ....didn't want to do it. Correia/ I know, no, no, but... Bailey/ ...discourage left turns... Correia/ ....people are going to be turning left, and it's... Bailey/ Let `em wait! Correia/ ...and it's similar to that intersection at Court and Muscatine, where the one side has aleft-turn arrow, when you're going towards Towncrest, because there's more left-turning action there than, and there's no left-turn arrow when you're going, uh, towards downtown to turn onto Court Street. (several talking) Yapp/ It is on our, uh, on the JCCOG work program. This spring...we actually just started the data collection last week, to look at the Church...at the Dubuque Street corridor from Church Street to Jefferson Street, more comprehensively. Uh, and looking at the possibility for a dedicated left-turn on Jefferson Street is one of the things we're looking at. And the pros and cons of dedicated left turn at both Church, uh, and at Jefferson, as well as some other, uh, things. Correia/ We need a dedicated left-turn arrow. Yapp/ Yes. Bailey/ The neighborhood was really clear about their interest, or lack thereof, of a dedicated left-turn arrow on Church Street. Correia/ Oh, I thought it was just related to the... This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular work session meeting of March 3, 2008. March 3, 2008 City Council Work Session Page 7 Wright/ No, it was seen as another way for traffic to be directed down Church Street. Champion/ And we decided that Jefferson was the street people should be turning on. Correial People, I mean, but people do live down Church Street (several talking) Wright/ People that live down there are quite content to wait. Bailey/ Yes! Champion/ Yeah, we had that discussion. Bailey/ Other agenda items? Wright/ We're just getting the fire out now! (laughter) Item 4f(4) Snow Removal: Tom and Mary Cilek, Michael Holladay, LuAnne Lefler, Cliff Pirnat, Matthew Theobald Hayek/ But I was going to point out that Tom and Mary Cilek letter, but I guess a response has been sent to (several talking) Bailey/ Okay. All right. Council Time: Champion/ Well, I'd just like to bring up one thing, and I never complain about this kind of stuff, but... Bailey/ You never complain, Connie! Champion/ No, but the businesses on Iowa Avenue between Linn and Dubuque never shovel their walks, and it was really dangerous today with the rain yesterday, and on top of the snow, on top of the melting. I think the only sidewalk that shovels is (unable to hear) Marc Moen's building, and (unable to hear). Otherwise, nothing's shoveled. Correia/ I saw the owner of the Q Bar shoveling one day. Champion/ I don't know when that was (several talking) Wright/ There is a complaint filed against them for not shoveling, I know. Bailey/ So, I mean, that's a complaint basis. Right, Dale? (several talking) This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular work session meeting of March 3, 2008. March 3, 2008 City Council Work Session Page 8 Wright/ Yeah, unfortunately, this is just, sidewalks are just a very bad issue this year, more than ever. Champion/ All the sidewalks on Dubuque and the rest of Iowa Avenue are totally clean. They're totally clean, so it's only, I guess, it's just an issue for the ones I'm talking about. Bailey/ ...pretty bad today, but it was around 10:00 (several talking) Wright/ ...Northside Market Place, there are businesses that don't have anything cleared, and it's... Champion/ I can't imagine not wanting to clear your sidewalks in front of your business. Mine's clean! Bailey/ Other Council time? All right. Schedule of Pending Discussion Items: Champion/ I've had several calls about snow removal, and when are we planning on doing that, Regenia? Do we have any time? Bailey/ We're shooting for...um, the...we'll talk about this in the meeting schedule, but we're ballparking the end of April, Apri130th maybe (several talking) but we can talk about it, that when we look at our schedule. (several talking) O'Donnell/ Regenia, I think you should comment tomorrow night on the job that these guys have done. Bailey/ I was out yesterday, seeing the... O'Donnell/ They're out there all hours! It's been a terrible year. Bailey/ Maybe we can talk about that too at the (several talking). Wilburn/ I'm sorry, if I can jump back to Council time. I did forget, uh, if that's okay. Okay, thanks. Um, the first funnel is this Friday, for the, uh, Legislature, so maybe at our next work session, um, can.. . Bailey/ ...Legislative update. Wilburn/ ...a Legislative update. Bailey/ That's a good idea. You should...we should recognize that a little bit more. I think you're right, with the (unable to hear) good. Thanks. Okay. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular work session meeting of March 3, 2008. March 3, 2008 City Council Work Session Page 9 Upcoming Community Events/Council Invitations: Bailey/ Shall we keep going? Um, I've had a couple of Council invitations. One, or invitations that I want to make sure that you guys are aware of. Um, Rebecca Ryan who, um, she wrote, she's now written another book, Live First, Work Second. There's a reception on Monday, March 24th at the HotelVetro, um, 5:30. Correia/ For what? Bailey/ Rebecca Ryan. She's, um, Next Generation Consulting. She does a lot of, um, that sort of work, and bringing in people to cities. So, I'll make sure that this is in next week's Info Packet. I just got the email today. And then on Thursday, the Summer of the Arts has a press conference...Thursday at 3:00 P.M. at HotelVetro. I'm out of town for a Vision Iowa meeting, and I was wondering if somebody else might want to attend on behalf of the City, since we are the title sponsor. Is anybody available? Champion/ I think Mike... O'Donnell/ Thursday I cannot do it. Bailey/ Dale, would you be available? Thursday at 3:00? Wilburn/ The 6th or the 13th Bailey/ The 6th. Are you available? Wilburn/ I have a speaking engagement with the Hates Crime group. (several talking) Bailey/ Okay, that would be great. I think we do, as title sponsor, should have some representation (several talking) Champion/ 3:00 on Thursday. Wright/ 3:00 Thursday at the Vetro? Bailey/ LJh-huh. Second, at the conference center, 2°a floor. Wilburn/ They usually have their kind of shtick and their spiel and they just want to hear general support from the City and (unable to hear, several talking) Bailey/ Yeah, yeah. Okay, thank you. Wright/ Connie, I can just meet you there. Champion/ Sure. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular work session meeting of March 3, 2008. March 3, 2008 City Council Work Session Page 10 Correia/ We all got invitations to the boathouse...University Boat House (several talking) Bailey/ ...and I think that they've moved that to the Levitt Center, is that accurate? Wilburn/ That sounds right. (several talking) Bailey/ Okay. Because it was going to be...I thought it was going to be outside, but... Correia/ So are people planning to attend? Bailey/ I'm planning to attend. I've been asked to speak. Correia/ And then, the United Way Celebration of Community. Bailey/ Planning to attend. Correia/ March 26t" (several talking) Wilburn/ I have 4:00 written down, but...that maybe so I was (several talking) Bailey/ Oh, yes, I sometimes...it's at the Levitt Center (several talking and laughing) Wright/ That's at 4:30? Bailey/ I have 4:00 written down as well. 4:00. It's March 26th. (several talking) Other events that we should know about? Okay. Should we look at...thank you. Should we look at the meeting schedule? Meeting Schedule (IP4 of 2/28/08 Info Pkt): Bailey/ Marian put a proposed schedule...IP4 Karr/ There were some changes made. I don't know if you want to go month-by-month, or... Bailey/ Let's go that way. It's a little bit more of (unable to hear) Okay, we're in March. I'm assuming we're moving forward with the March schedule. Karr/ And that's with combining the work session and the formal on the 11th Bailey/ Is everybody okay with that? (several responding) Thanks for your flexibility. Actually enables me to work. That's good! Wilburn/ What's that? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular work session meeting of March 3, 2008. March 3, 2008 City Council Work Session Page 11 Bailey/ Combining the work session on the 11 `". Um, and then so, and work session on the 31S`, formal on the ls`. We're into April now, combining because, uh, Ross will be gone on the 15`" of April, combining the work session and the formal on April 14`". Does that work for everybody? (several responding) Um, then going to the end, the work session and formal, and then that April 30`", um, what I was thinking of for the snow removal meeting is a work session, in a formal setup, with a presentation by Rick about, you know, what we do, what our policies, protocols, those sorts of things are, and then enabling, um, members of the public to actually speak, but it'll be a work session. Correia/ On the 30`"~ Bailey/ On the 30`" is what I was thinking, so we can just have only that. Correia/ What time? Bailey/ What time would work? Correia/ Can I go back, so that, um, on the 14`", the work session will be at what time? Karr/ We probably will start at 5:30. We don't really firm up the times until we see the agenda, by any chance, but we wouldn't start any earlier than 5:30. I think that works for most of you. Champion/ We can always continue the work session after the formal meeting. Karr/ If we notice it that way. We'd have to (several talking) Bailey/ I think we should standardly notice it when it's a combined. Champion/ Because you never know. Bailey/ We don't have long work sessions, but it just prepares for contingencies. Um, one of the things I was thinking about the 30`" is to have it sort of right after work, so people could come here first, but we could have it at a normal meeting time. I have no... Champion/ I don't think that works. People get off at 5:00. People get off at 6:00. Some people get off at 6:30. Um, I think if we want the public to come, it needs to be in the evening. Bailey/ Okay, I agree with that. So what time...what time would work for you all to start? (several talking) O'Donnell/ 7:00's good. 6:30, 7:00. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular work session meeting of March 3, 2008. March 3, 2008 City Council Work Session Page 12 Bailey/ 6:30? (several talking) 6:30 on the 30th, okay. And we'll just give it a shot and try to get out of here before 10:00 that night. I'm kidding! Hayek/ So, the 30th is snow... Bailey/ Snow removal, yeah. And so if you know of people, you're talking to people, um, let them know that there'll be an opportunity for people to talk in a civil manner about their concerns. Dilkes/ Are we just talking about snow removal on the streets, or are we also... Bailey/ Sidewalks. Dilkes/ So we're talking about the enforcement issues that HIS has with sidewalks, too. Bailey/ Yes. Is there any other consideration we need to think about for that? I was thinking broadly about the letters we've gotten on our streets and sidewalks. Are there any other items or issues that we're hearing about? Champion/ I don't know. There's snow on top of my roof. Bailey/ Have we gotten letters about your roof? (laughter and several talking) O'Donnell/ I think you need to clearly explain that, you know, I've had several calls on cul-de-sacs, where people say (several talking) that's streets, but I mean priorities and doing (several talking) Bailey/ ...presentation by staff about what we do, what our policies are, and you know, sort of, how we are where we are. O'Donnell/ That's good. Bailey/ And then...and I think that staff will also talk about the sidewalk enforcement, how that's enforced by complaint. So we have all the information out there. Anything else we... Champion/ I think we also should ask staff...I don't know if we're meeting this way or not, about just doing minor research on a snow policy. You know, what do we call that? Wright/ Snow emergency? Champion/ Snow emergency. Bailey/ We do have an ordinance on the books. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular work session meeting of March 3, 2008. March 3, 2008 City Council Work Session Page 13 Correia/ Can we look at that? Bailey/ Uh-huh, I have that on the list. Champion/ But people don't know about it. Bailey/ Right, and so (several talking) right, um... Dilkes/ I was just thinking that we...I thought we had kept a list of all the issues that have been raised over the... Bailey/ I have, but I really do want to hear if anybody else has heard. Champion/ I've also, and maybe you all got the same call, about alleys. I mean, what is our policy on alleys and snow removal? Wright/ I actually haven't been contacted on alleys, but I know that's a concern just from casually talking to people. Bailey/ It all goes back to snow removal it sounds like. I think we'll be fine. Um, if I can get my list that I have, and maybe I can...I'll try to bring it to the next work session, see if it's as comprehensive as we prepare for this, or sometime between now and the 30`". And if you think of anything else, let me know. Let Dale know. Okay. So, Apri130`". You know, the snow will be melted by then. Champion/ Maybe! Bailey/ Let's hope! (several talking and laughing) Okay, going to May. May 12t" and 13`", um, and then, I guess the "H" is a holiday, right? So there's one meeting in May. We fine with that? June, right there is June ls` and 3rd. July, we go to the 14t" and the 20t". We have two meetings in July. My preference for the summer is to plan on them, and if it looks like we're not going to need them, um, cancel them. Wright/ Smart. Bailey/ Um, a combined work session and formal on August 11 `". Once again, that's a Monday night, shooting for 5:30 probably. Is that acceptable? Hayek/ Can we go back to July? Bailey/ Yes. Hayekl I have a conflict. The, uh, 28`", 29~" Bailey/ Okay. What... This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular work session meeting of March 3, 2008. March 3, 2008 City Council Work Session Page 14 Hayek/ I have a trial. Karr/ What days, Matt? Hayek/ The 28`", 29tH Bailey/ Figure out a...you're not available those meetings. Karr/ Just those two days? Hayek/ Right. That entire week, but.. . Bailey/ The week? Hayek/ Yeah. O'Donnell/ That may very well be a meeting that we don't have, the 28`" and 29`" (several talking) Bailey/ So the option is to... Karr/ There is only...the option that month, if you want seven people there, is only the 14`", 15`", because I have Mike, Ross, Regenia, and Matt gone the other times. At different times, but... Bailey/ Okay. Karr/ If the criteria is...seven people. Bailey/ Um, that is a summer meeting. We, I mean, we could...what do you want to do? O'Donnell/ Why don't we shoot for one meeting? We can always have a special meeting if we need it. Bailey/ Actually, I think Marian's saying a special meeting would be a challenge, but yeah, we could have the special meeting if we need it. Um.. . Champion/ Well, we can have a special meeting for something that needed to be voted on. That way we'd only need four of us. Bailey/ Sure, that's true. We do try to have seven here, and I'd like to (several talking) Hayek/ I could probably swing a Wednesday, Thursday, but... Champion/ That's way off the beaten path. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular work session meeting of March 3, 2008. March 3, 2008 City Council Work Session Page 15 Bailey/ So, I think if we need a special meeting, that would be the option. Karr/ So 14 and 15 in July only? Bailey/ Right. Okay. We're in August now. A combined work session on the 11 `", work session/formal on the 11 `". Does that work for people? Great, thank you. I think that's me, and a work session/forma125`", 26`" Is that the first week of school? (several talking) Okay. Hayek/ I hate to do this again, but that 11`" could be bad for me. I'm not suggesting we necessarily move it, but... Wright/ l 1`" of August? Hayek/ Yeah. Bailey/ And I can't be here on the 12`". I know that, but... Karr/ We can move it, Connie's gone the 4`" and St". We could move it to the 18`" and 19`", if you want to have them back-to-back, or.. . Bailey/ That puts us a far way away from our July meeting though, if we move to the 18`". (several responding) Champion/ Is it a bad problem? Mr. Hayek? Hayek/ Oh, hard to tell at this point. Another trial, but.. . Champion/ Oh, I see! Hayek/ I tell you what. Let's stick with it. If I have to skip it, I'll skip it. Karr/ The 11`"~ Bailey/ Okay. O'Donnell/ We can address that as we get closer to it. Bailey/ Yeah. When will you have an idea? Hayek/ It's hard to (unable to hear) Wilburn/ First day of classes is August 18`" Champion/ All right, so what day of the week is that? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular work session meeting of March 3, 2008. March 3, 2008 City Council Work Session Page 16 Bailey/ Monday. Okay. We're in September. So, a work session/formal on the 8`h and the 9`", and on the 22nd and the 23rd. And that's through September. (several talking) I know, that's what I'm a little concerned about. So... Karr/ So really the only change we made was July. Bailey/ Right. And you'll put these dates out, and... Karr/ I'll put them in Thursday's packet. Bailey/ And we'll all double-check them. I'm sure we've all checked them, but we'll all double-check them, talk to the people who influence our vacations. Okay. Um, that's what we have for...(unable to hear). Okay, then we're going to take a break. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular work session meeting of March 3, 2008.