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IOWA CITY PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
RECREATION CENTER, ROOM B
SEPTEMBER 10, 2980
MEMBERS PRESENT: Crum, Hillman, McLaughlin, Phelps, Riddle, Robertson, Wooldrik.
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MEMBERS ABSENT: Berry, Humbert
STAFF PRESENT: Showalter, Lee, Nowell, Christner, Ray, Kelso, Weigandt
GUESTS PRESENT: Anne Glenister (Project GREEN), Roger Scholten, Ronald J. Allen, Esq.,
Rev. William L. Waltz, Mark Grady, Lynne Adams, Hilda Howell, Ronald
Osborne, Susanne Watson, John Watson, Karin Franklin
RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL
* Moved by McLaughlin, seconded by Wooldrik to recommend that a boat ramp should not
be built at City Park. Unanimous.
* The Commission reaffirmed an April 5 recommendation that Elm Grove Park be put up p
for bids, with separate bids on the eastern portion and on the entire property, and
that the money derived from the sale go to the Parks and Recreation Commission for
the specific purpose of park land acquisition. Unanimous.
* Moved by Wooldrik, seconded by Phelps to accept two gazebo shelters, picnic tables,
and grills for Sturgis Ferry Park as recommended by the Riverfront Commission.
Unanimous.
SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION AND FORMAL ACTION TAKEN
The minutes of the June 11 meeting were approved as written.
There was a lengthy discussion about use of park shelters for non -recreational use
and about using a park shelter for specified times for a consecutive period of time.
No action taken.
Karin Franklin of the Riverfront Commission asked for approval to have two gazebo -
type shelters, picnic tables, grills, and trash receptacles added to Sturgis Ferry
Park. The funding would come from CDBG funds left over after the construction of
the Sturgis Ferry boat ramp. Moved by Wooldrik, seconded by Phelps to accept two
gazebo shelters, picnic tables, and grills for Sturgis Ferry Park as recommended
by the Riverfront Commission. Unanimous.
Franklin also suggested that funds may be available for a boat ramp at City Park.
After discussion, it was moved by McLaughlin, seconded by Wooldrik to recommend
that a boat ramp should not be built at City Park. Unanimous.
for The official appraisal for Elm Grove Park suggests offering the entire property
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Aprilz53recc0 and the ommendationast thatoElmoGrove Park,beOPutThe Comup formbids, withfseparatenbids
on the eastern portion and on the entire property, and that the money derived
from the sale go to the Parks and Recreation Commission for the specific purpose
of park land acquisition. Unanimous.
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Millman requested that persons be allowed to take lounge chairs to the outdoor +
y pools. The Commission agreed to allow lounge chairs at the outdoor pools Monday #
f through Saturday on a trial basis for 1981.
Riddle is planning to initiate a basketball program on a trial basis at Hoover
School for elementary youth. The program will start this fall and will be held
on Saturday mornings.
COMMITTEE. REPORTS j
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Millman reported that the Ralston Creek Committee had not yet made an offer
to buy property owned by Regina High School which will be in the Ralston Creek
water detention area.
CHAIR REPORT
Crum appointed Robertson, Riddle, and Hillman to be the nominating committee for
new officers, and directed them to prepare a slate of candidates for the next
meeting.
The City Council has approved the Mercer Park building. Bids will be opened on
September 16 and let on September 19, and then the firm will h
days to complete the job. ave 120 calendar
DIRECTOR'S REPORT
The hickory Hill shelter has been delivered. There have been some problems
locdtinq a.legal description of an easement along Conklin Lane in which to put
a water line; the City legal department will be aiding in solving this so that
a 6 line can be put along the road to the shelter for restrooms. We hope to
have the shelter finished by November.
MEETING ADJOURNED 10:10 p.m.
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CONFERENCE ROOM CIVIC CENTER
WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3, 1980 - 3:30 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: KLAUS, KOENIG, KARSTENS, VANDERZEE, HAENDEL, GRAF, DENNIS
STAFF PRESENT: SEYDEL, FLINN, HENCIN, BARNES, SCHMEISER, STEINBACH
Recommendations to Council:
to Small Ci tics Grant monies, for the TRehabhat ilitationsProgram be use
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Recommendation to PI
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8700 to the present 6000 square nfeet for the rconversioneduce themoflexistingsize housingm
to duplex in an RS -8 zone, 2) To place a grace period of 10 years by ordin-
ance on the new RS -8 area (currently zoned R-2) for the conversion of the pro-
perties to duplexes only on existing buildings and only for owners of proper-
ties at the time the law goes into effect. Duplex use could then continue
beyond the 10 year grace period.
I. Fleeting was called to order by Chairperson Klaus at 3:30 p.m,
II. Minutes of the Meetings of July 2, 1980 and July 23, 1980 were approved
5/0 on motion by Ilaendel, seconded by Karstens.
III. Task Force on Zoning Ordinance - VanderZee presented attached report to
and recommendations to Housing Commission. Klaus questioned status of
anticipated Public Hearings on Ordinance, It was moved by VanderZee,
seconded by Koenig, that Items 2 $ 3, as amended, be referred to Planning
and Zoning and Legal for consideration. Approved 7/0.
IV, Housing Rehabilitation Program - Barnes reported that Bob Fox of the Iowa
Apartments did not proceed with the 312 Loan, but that it is his intent
to proceed with the rehabilitation of the complex.
I Hencin referred to his Memo of August 29, 1980 regarding failure to meet
HAP goals as well as contingency of 312 monies dependency on local (CDBG)
rehabilitation program, and indicated a possibility now exists to allocate
$100,000 for additional rehabilitation in the hold -harmless CDBG (403) area
j due to repayment of prior rehab loans and the sale of urban renewal parcel
64-1. Moved by Vander7.ee, seconded by Dennis, that we recommend to Council
that we use CDBG money for additional rehab. Approved 7/0.
V. Housing Assistance Plan - Klaus expressed concern that plan could not have
been mailed to Commission in time for discussion at Commission meeting he-
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fore it was sent to City Council. Hencin clarified the time frame for pro -
senting to Council in time for A-95 reviewprocess prior to HUD submission.
He elaborated that in the spring a totally new HAP Plan would be devised;
that hearings will be held and Commission input sought at that time.
VI, AHOP (AREA HOUSING OPPORTUNITY PLAN) DRAFT distributed for Commission re-
view and discussion at next meeting. Seydel expressed concern that proposed
"Fair Share" Plan does not take into consideration prior work performance by
other cities in the area,
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MINUTES OF THE IOWA CITY HOUSING COMMISSION
CONFERENCE ROOM CIVIC CENTER
WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3, 1980 - 3:30 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: KLAUS, KOENIG, KARSTENS, VANDERZEE, HAENDEL, GRAF, DENNIS
STAFF PRESENT: SEYDEL, FLINN, HENCIN, BARNES, SCHMEISER, STEINBACH
Recommendations to Council:
to Small Ci tics Grant monies, for the TRehabhat ilitationsProgram be use
din1thed4031Area.
Recommendation to PI
annin
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8700 to the present 6000 square nfeet for the rconversioneduce themoflexistingsize housingm
to duplex in an RS -8 zone, 2) To place a grace period of 10 years by ordin-
ance on the new RS -8 area (currently zoned R-2) for the conversion of the pro-
perties to duplexes only on existing buildings and only for owners of proper-
ties at the time the law goes into effect. Duplex use could then continue
beyond the 10 year grace period.
I. Fleeting was called to order by Chairperson Klaus at 3:30 p.m,
II. Minutes of the Meetings of July 2, 1980 and July 23, 1980 were approved
5/0 on motion by Ilaendel, seconded by Karstens.
III. Task Force on Zoning Ordinance - VanderZee presented attached report to
and recommendations to Housing Commission. Klaus questioned status of
anticipated Public Hearings on Ordinance, It was moved by VanderZee,
seconded by Koenig, that Items 2 $ 3, as amended, be referred to Planning
and Zoning and Legal for consideration. Approved 7/0.
IV, Housing Rehabilitation Program - Barnes reported that Bob Fox of the Iowa
Apartments did not proceed with the 312 Loan, but that it is his intent
to proceed with the rehabilitation of the complex.
I Hencin referred to his Memo of August 29, 1980 regarding failure to meet
HAP goals as well as contingency of 312 monies dependency on local (CDBG)
rehabilitation program, and indicated a possibility now exists to allocate
$100,000 for additional rehabilitation in the hold -harmless CDBG (403) area
j due to repayment of prior rehab loans and the sale of urban renewal parcel
64-1. Moved by Vander7.ee, seconded by Dennis, that we recommend to Council
that we use CDBG money for additional rehab. Approved 7/0.
V. Housing Assistance Plan - Klaus expressed concern that plan could not have
been mailed to Commission in time for discussion at Commission meeting he-
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fore it was sent to City Council. Hencin clarified the time frame for pro -
senting to Council in time for A-95 reviewprocess prior to HUD submission.
He elaborated that in the spring a totally new HAP Plan would be devised;
that hearings will be held and Commission input sought at that time.
VI, AHOP (AREA HOUSING OPPORTUNITY PLAN) DRAFT distributed for Commission re-
view and discussion at next meeting. Seydel expressed concern that proposed
"Fair Share" Plan does not take into consideration prior work performance by
other cities in the area,
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Vii. COORDINATOR'S REPORT - Seydel reported that there were 364 units
under lease in the Section 8 Program at the beginning of the month;
that he may ask for a redistribution of units by size. lie further
informed that new income limits had just been received this date.
Seydel reported on the Audit for the period 7-1-78/6-30-80 and read
the findings and comments to the Commission. Klaus indicated that
the Housing Commission's Minutes should reflect the Commission's ap-
preciation of the good management leading to such a good HUD Audit.
Seydel further reported that the Federal Guidelines are changing to
exclude "student aliens".
Public Housing - Seydel reported he hopes to get HUD to reduce first
program to 32 units and allocate the additional 36 units to conven-
tional allocation. This would require developer to change his pro-
posal, but verbal approval has been obtained. Preliminary site re-
port on the property on Kirkwood previously discussed has been sub-
mitted. Proposed zoning would permit 58 units.
Lakeside/Rent Abatement - 16 units certified for rent escrow are sub-
ject to HAP Contracts. Under the terms of this contract, a default
has occurred (the defauZt is "failure to provide Air Conditioning is
an integral part of the Contract)." Therefore, the Iowa City Housing
Authority will abate rent retro to August 1 in the amount of $15.00
per month. Units will be reinspected beginning 9-4-80.
VIII. CCN Report - VanderZee referred to previous discussion and action taken
regarding Rehab program and recommended that staff investigate possibili-
ty of utilizing funds for 403 area for inspection staff during January,
1982 time frame.
IX. Housing Code - Task Force Report - Steinbach reviewed problems meshing
HUD Code with State Housing Code and failure of HUD standards to address
rooming units. It is anticipated that revised Code will be ready for
Council in October.
X. Adjournment - Moved by Haendel, seconded by Karstens, that meeting be
adjourned, Approved 7/0. Adjourned 5:20 p.m.
Approved:
M. Diane Klaus
Chairperson
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Vii. COORDINATOR'S REPORT - Seydel reported that there were 364 units
under lease in the Section 8 Program at the beginning of the month;
that he may ask for a redistribution of units by size. lie further
informed that new income limits had just been received this date.
Seydel reported on the Audit for the period 7-1-78/6-30-80 and read
the findings and comments to the Commission. Klaus indicated that
the Housing Commission's Minutes should reflect the Commission's ap-
preciation of the good management leading to such a good HUD Audit.
Seydel further reported that the Federal Guidelines are changing to
exclude "student aliens".
Public Housing - Seydel reported he hopes to get HUD to reduce first
program to 32 units and allocate the additional 36 units to conven-
tional allocation. This would require developer to change his pro-
posal, but verbal approval has been obtained. Preliminary site re-
port on the property on Kirkwood previously discussed has been sub-
mitted. Proposed zoning would permit 58 units.
Lakeside/Rent Abatement - 16 units certified for rent escrow are sub-
ject to HAP Contracts. Under the terms of this contract, a default
has occurred (the defauZt is "failure to provide Air Conditioning is
an integral part of the Contract)." Therefore, the Iowa City Housing
Authority will abate rent retro to August 1 in the amount of $15.00
per month. Units will be reinspected beginning 9-4-80.
VIII. CCN Report - VanderZee referred to previous discussion and action taken
regarding Rehab program and recommended that staff investigate possibili-
ty of utilizing funds for 403 area for inspection staff during January,
1982 time frame.
IX. Housing Code - Task Force Report - Steinbach reviewed problems meshing
HUD Code with State Housing Code and failure of HUD standards to address
rooming units. It is anticipated that revised Code will be ready for
Council in October.
X. Adjournment - Moved by Haendel, seconded by Karstens, that meeting be
adjourned, Approved 7/0. Adjourned 5:20 p.m.
Approved:
M. Diane Klaus
Chairperson
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REPORT TO HOUSING COMMISSION FROM TASK FORCE ON ZONING - September 3, 1980
Our ColrBrittee has met with Mr. Schmeiser and in discussion with him have
arrived at three possible alternatives for the Housing Commission to follow
in this matter:
1. To press for amendment of the Comprehensive Plan for the
rezoning of certain areas from RS -8 to RM -12.
2. To reduce the minimum lot size from 8700 to the present
6000 square feet for the conversion of existing housing
to duplex in an RS -8 zone.
3. To place a grace period of 10 years by ordinance on the new
RS -8 area (currently zoned R-2) for the conversion of the
properties to duplexes only on existing buildings and only
for owners of properties at the time the law goes into ef-
fect. Multi -family use could then continue beyond the 10
year grace period with the existing lot -size requirements.
Leonard J. VanderZee, Chairperson
Kathleen Graf
Mark Koenig
Carol Karstens
AMENDMENT: (Item #3 - ZaBt sentence should read): "Duplex use couZd then
continue beyond the 10 year grace period."
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IOWA CITY HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 22, 1980
CITY MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM
MEMBERS PRESENT: Costantino, Kuhn, Marcus, McGuire, Penny, Portman, !
Yates. j
MEMBERS ABSENT: McCartt (excused), Reyes (unexcused).
STAFF PRESENT: Helling, Mejia, Scholten. i
GUESTS: John Swinton, Jeannie Swinton, Lyle Miller (0.I.).
RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL:
None.
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RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY MANAGER AND STAFF:
McGuire to write letter to state regarding training program.
SUMMARY OF RELEVANT DISCUSSION:
1. Meeting called to order at 7:30 P.M. by Chairperson Linda
McGuire.
2: Kuhn moved and Portman seconded that the minutes of August 25,
1980, be approved as submitted. Motion passed unanimously.
3. Copies of correspondence regarding the problem of sexual and
racial harassment at the downtown construction site were
distributed. The situation was discussed but no action was
taken.
4. By-laws revision. Copies of the revised by-laws were
distributed and Scholten reviewed the major changes with
Commissioners. They will now be typed in final form and
distributed and will be voted upon at the October monthly
meeting.
5. Confidentiality in meetings. Commissioners discussed the need
for confidentiality regarding the use of names in discussing
informal complaints. Scholten explained that this was a policy
question because legal liability was not there if the I
statements are true. There was a concern that by naming names
the entire Commission would be biased if a formal complaint were
to be filed later. Commissioners felt they would prefer to
handle each situation individually rather than have a formal
rigid policy.
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6. Complaints pending;
a. E/S, 5-2-7905. Appealed.
b. E/R, 7-10-7906 and E/R, 7-10-7907. Appealed. Respondent
also wants to submit additional information.
C. E/R, 9-18-7909. Respondent to contact chair of the team to
arrange meeting.
7. Services provided by local retailer. Penny spoke with the store
manager who agreed that'the policy regarding share drafts would
be changed to accommodate the local credit union and would be
standardized.
S. Screening for Civil Rights Specialist. The committee is
awaiting additional information from two final candidates. A
decision is expected from the screening committee in the near
future.
9. Support staff reclassification. Support staff have been
promoted to personnel assistants. McCartt wrote letter of.
recommendation
ntimoved
and Marcus tseconded ethat the tletters he ibelPlaced oinaMorris' and
Mejia's personnel files. Motion passed unanimously.
10. Affirmative Action Task Force. Committee is working on the
final draft of the policy. Expect to confer with HR Director at
next Task Force meeting regarding the policy.
11. Commission training - state program. McGuire will write letter
to State indicating the local commission's desire and need for
such a program.
12. Meeting with Artis Reis. Primarily present were executive
directors of commissions; agency survival issues were
discussed; state investigators may contact local investigators
when in town for an investigation; confidentiality issues
discussed; questions on the way reports will be written. Next
meeting scheduled for October 10 in Des Moines.
13. Bus posters. Posters have been distributed and are posted in
both City buses and Cambus.
14. Brochure distribution. McGuire willwrite letter. "Take One"
holders will be offered to those responding.
15. Draft letter for speaking engagements. Portman submitted draft
of letter to be used for speaking engagements. Mejia reported
that Mercy Hospital is requesting speakers on two topics
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6. Complaints pending;
a. E/S, 5-2-7905. Appealed.
b. E/R, 7-10-7906 and E/R, 7-10-7907. Appealed. Respondent
also wants to submit additional information.
C. E/R, 9-18-7909. Respondent to contact chair of the team to
arrange meeting.
7. Services provided by local retailer. Penny spoke with the store
manager who agreed that'the policy regarding share drafts would
be changed to accommodate the local credit union and would be
standardized.
S. Screening for Civil Rights Specialist. The committee is
awaiting additional information from two final candidates. A
decision is expected from the screening committee in the near
future.
9. Support staff reclassification. Support staff have been
promoted to personnel assistants. McCartt wrote letter of.
recommendation
ntimoved
and Marcus tseconded ethat the tletters he ibelPlaced oinaMorris' and
Mejia's personnel files. Motion passed unanimously.
10. Affirmative Action Task Force. Committee is working on the
final draft of the policy. Expect to confer with HR Director at
next Task Force meeting regarding the policy.
11. Commission training - state program. McGuire will write letter
to State indicating the local commission's desire and need for
such a program.
12. Meeting with Artis Reis. Primarily present were executive
directors of commissions; agency survival issues were
discussed; state investigators may contact local investigators
when in town for an investigation; confidentiality issues
discussed; questions on the way reports will be written. Next
meeting scheduled for October 10 in Des Moines.
13. Bus posters. Posters have been distributed and are posted in
both City buses and Cambus.
14. Brochure distribution. McGuire willwrite letter. "Take One"
holders will be offered to those responding.
15. Draft letter for speaking engagements. Portman submitted draft
of letter to be used for speaking engagements. Mejia reported
that Mercy Hospital is requesting speakers on two topics
(History of Local Non-discrimination Ordinance and Civil Rights
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6. Complaints pending;
a. E/S, 5-2-7905. Appealed.
b. E/R, 7-10-7906 and E/R, 7-10-7907. Appealed. Respondent
also wants to submit additional information.
C. E/R, 9-18-7909. Respondent to contact chair of the team to
arrange meeting.
7. Services provided by local retailer. Penny spoke with the store
manager who agreed that'the policy regarding share drafts would
be changed to accommodate the local credit union and would be
standardized.
S. Screening for Civil Rights Specialist. The committee is
awaiting additional information from two final candidates. A
decision is expected from the screening committee in the near
future.
9. Support staff reclassification. Support staff have been
promoted to personnel assistants. McCartt wrote letter of.
recommendation
ntimoved
and Marcus tseconded ethat the tletters he ibelPlaced oinaMorris' and
Mejia's personnel files. Motion passed unanimously.
10. Affirmative Action Task Force. Committee is working on the
final draft of the policy. Expect to confer with HR Director at
next Task Force meeting regarding the policy.
11. Commission training - state program. McGuire will write letter
to State indicating the local commission's desire and need for
such a program.
12. Meeting with Artis Reis. Primarily present were executive
directors of commissions; agency survival issues were
discussed; state investigators may contact local investigators
when in town for an investigation; confidentiality issues
discussed; questions on the way reports will be written. Next
meeting scheduled for October 10 in Des Moines.
13. Bus posters. Posters have been distributed and are posted in
both City buses and Cambus.
14. Brochure distribution. McGuire willwrite letter. "Take One"
holders will be offered to those responding.
15. Draft letter for speaking engagements. Portman submitted draft
of letter to be used for speaking engagements. Mejia reported
that Mercy Hospital is requesting speakers on two topics
(History of Local Non-discrimination Ordinance and Civil Rights
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and Employment). No decision was reached regarding who would
address the group.
16. Community Housing Board. Kuhn reported that although
Participation was light, the Housing Conference resulted in the
exchange of many thoughts and ideas between landlords, tenants
and other interested parties.
17. Next Commission meeting, October 27, 1980, 7:30 P.M., city
Manager's Conference Room. Agenda setting - October 17, 1980.
18. Marcus moved and Penny seconded that the meeting adjourn.
Passed ur!4nimously at 8:55 P.M.
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Iowa City Civic Center
Mi.i4;h�(J HdiJh.N'I': bleterle, Phipps, Saeuglinp,
:,TAFF hthJ6NT: Zehr
UI'lUo" lltr.':;1JIT: U. blun, J. Park, C. Burton
Ch•.irman bietr_rle opened meeting- at 7:30. General discussion followed
concerning; the plans and specification of the Airport Terminal parking
lot, improvements. It was moved by Phipps and seconded by Saeuglinp
that, the resolution us read be adopted. All voted aye.
Craig; Burton approached the commission for space during the 4th of
July activities at the airport to have a stand for the Anderson Party.
It was moved by Saeuglinp, and seconded by Phipps that Political groups
be permitted to have displays no larger than 81 X 81 at the airport
during, the Aviation Day activities. All voted aye.
Chairman 0eiterle announced that she was making up the annual report
and that if any members wished to make and input to have them ready
to he turned in at the July 10th meeting.
Xeeting adjouned at 8:15 P.M.
N07'r: These minutes inadvertently omitted
from council packet,
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IOWA CITY MUNICIPAL AIRPORT
South Riverside Drive Iowa Cay. Iowa 52240
Office Phone (3 19) 354-1800 Ext. 357
AIRPORT COMMISSTON
MTNUTES: PIANS AND SPECS. FOR IIANCAR
September 29, 1980
Iowa City Civic Center
MEMBERS PRESENT: Redick, Phipps, Saeugling, George
Staff Present: Zchr
Guests Present: L. Muller(DI), W. Overman -II. Bogcrt(II.R. Green Co)
r.K. Jones(ICFS), Dennis Knowling, D. Blum, N. Blum
Chairman Redick opened the meeting at 7:30. General discussion
followed concerning the plans and Specification of the new Hangar.
Mr. Jones expressed concern over the location of the new hangar
stating that he thought that it should he farther away from the
Terminal building. Mr. Knowling stated that lie thought that the
hangar should be in its planned location for easy of access and
availability to the public. Mr Blum supported Mr. Knowling statements
and also stated that the planned location would be the safest, as
the public would not have to drive their automobiles on taxiways
and runways to get to it. Mr. Bogert commented that the planned
location is the least expensive place to locate ttte hangnr as far
as connecting utilities and connecting tnwiways also the planned
location is Suggested in the blaster Plan. Mr. 7.ehr stated that a
great deal of effort went into selecting the location for the hangar
and weighing nil the advantages and disadvantages the Commission
feels the the planned location is in the best interest of the Airport.
Phipps moved to close the public hearing, Saeugling second. All voted
aye.
Saeugling moved to accept the plans and specification and act the Ilid
date as October 22, 1980, 7:30 P.M. George Second. All voted aye.
Meeting adjourned at 8:15 P.M.
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