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MINUTES APPROVED
PUBLIC ART ADVISORY COMMITTEE
THURSDAY, MAY 15, 2008
LOBBY CONFERENCE ROOM -CITY HALL
VARIOUS TRAIL LOVATIONS -IOWA CITY
Members Present: Mark Seabold, Patrick Carney, Rick Fosse, DaLayne Williamson,
Annadora Khan, Jan Finlayson
Members Absent: Terry Trueblood
Staff Present: Marcia Klingaman, Jeff Davidson, Nate Kabat, Tracy Hightshoe,
Terry Robinson
Public Present: Shirley Wyrick, Washington Hills Neighborhood Representative;
Jill Harper, Pheasant Hill Park Project Designer
CALL TO ORDER
Seabold called the meeting to order at 3:05 PM.
PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF ANY ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA
None.
CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES OF THE MARCH 6 2008 MEETING
MOTION: Finlayson moved to approve the minutes; Fosse seconded. The motion
passed 7:0.
COMMITTEE TIME/UPDATES
Marcia informed the committee the "Tunnel Vision" art piece will be installed next
Thursday, May 22, 2008 as the Iowa Sculptor's Showcase piece. A brochure
announcing the piece to the public will be distributed in lieu of a dedication ceremony.
Marcia announced acquisition of the art piece titled "Impermanence Is Inevitable" located
on the pedestrian spiral bridge at the corner of Hwy 6 and Iowa Avenue was approved
by the City Council.
Marcia also told the committee installation of the new B.J. Katz pool wall piece has
become a challenge. City engineers were hoping to use stainless steel cables to hang
the piece from the ceiling, but learned chlorine can cause stainless steel to fail. Marcia
said she is working with city engineers to find a solution; they are looking into using a
higher q~auged cable or other materials. As of now the dedication ceremony is still set for
June 6' at noon. Marcia asked Jan to speak at the dedication ceremony. Jan accepted.
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May 15, 2008
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PRESENTATION OF WASHINGTON HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ART PROJECT
CONCEPT
Shirley Wyrick, Washington Hills Neighborhood Representative, and Jill Harper,
Pheasant Hill Park Project Designer, presented the proposal for a neighborhood art
project for Pheasant Hill Park. Jill would like to use "characters of imagination" designs
from K-12 kids from Hoover and Lemme Elementary schools to create 3-D characters to
display in the park. The characters would be used to create a path beginning at Green
Mountain Dr. and ending at the playground. She hopes to create 30-35 sculptures with
metal interiors and mosaic coverings that would be about 2.5' tall and 2.5' at the base.
City High students would be responsible for creating the sculptures. Jill said 2-D mosaic
path markers could be used as an alternative, but she was worried about upkeep issues
created by grass growth. Jill also showed concepts for an archway that could be used as
signage for the park entrance. She said she still needs to refine plans for an arch and
get cost estimates as well. She proposed a timeline that would begin in June 2008 with
completion in June 2009.
Shirley commented Pheasant Hills Park is not well known because it lacks proper
signage. She believes this project would help create a needed identity for the park and
for Washington Hills neighborhood. She wondered how the kids would be given credit for
their work. Shirley also brought up the issue of vandalism and wondered how the project
might be affected by a snow fence that is placed in the proposed project area every
winter. Jill noted the kids' artwork would include their name and age on the piece. Terry
Robinson explained the snow fence is needed to control drifting due to the direction of
winds in that part of the park. He said the fence could be made to work if the project was
placed in that spot.
Jill asked Terry about accessibility requirements that might arise from the project and
how the bases should be configured. Terry said grass or woodchips would not be
considered fully accessible, so if the project creates a path it would need to be concrete.
Terry explained a concrete walkway would add extra expense in both materials and
maintenance since it would have to be cleared in the winter. He suggested the fgures be
placed in an alternating pattern to avoid creating the need for a concrete path. He said
the bases should go below the frost line to avoid winter damage and suggested circular
shaped bases to make mowing around them easier. Marcia asked how much a base
would cost. Terry estimated about $80/base, but noted a round base might cut costs.
The committee wondered how much the total cost of this project could be. Marcia stated
$15,000 is the amount the City can dedicate to the project. She also said there was a
PIN grant given for a bench in the park, which could be integrated into this project as
well. Jill asked if the project could be phased to leverage more funds and if funding might
be available for a cement walkway. Marcia said the city funding is typically a one time
thing, so phasing would not be an option. She also said any costs for the walkway would
need to come from the total project budget. The committee agreed the project was good
and should keep moving forward. Jill agreed to refine the plans and come up with more
specifics for the next meeting.
TOUR OF LOCAL TRAILS
Iowa City Public Art Advisory Committee Minutes
May 15, 2008
Page 3
To get ideas for possible trail art projects, the committee took a tour of three Iowa City
trails. The tour was lead by Terry. Marcia suggested the committee should think about
what types of art would be most appropriate for each trail such as progressive signage
that would provide an educational component along the trail, a more concentrated
sculpture garden on the trail; or something else.
Trail #1: South leg of the Iowa River Corridor trail
Jeff explained the trail goes up into the nearby subdivision. He said upcoming trail
additions will make the area into a major intersection of trails in the near future. Because
of the additions, Jeff suggested the committee might want to wait on placing public art
here until the area is completed.
Trail #2: Court Hill Trail -
Marcia told the committee once this trail is completed scheduled for this fall, it will be one
of the first residentially oriented trails in Iowa City. Jeff added a crosswalk will be
established at Creekside Park across Muscatine Avenue and also on 1s' Ave where a
refuge island will be installed as well
Trail #3: Water Treatment Plant
Terry pointed out the place where a new amphitheater will be built near the trail
entrance. He also explained a new dock will be built to allow a universally accessible
fishing facility. Rick noted the water well and intake buildings might present a good
opportunity for art installments.
ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at 4:55 pm. Next meeting scheduled for June 5, 2008
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IOWA C[TY TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION FINAL
MONDAY, APRIL 28, 2008--5:30 P.M.
ROOM 201, SENIOR CENTER
MF,MBERS PRESENT: Saul Mekies, Hans Hoerschelman, Brett Gordon, Uary Hagen,
Robert Kemp
MEMBERS ABSENT:
STAFF PRESENT: Mike Brau, Bob Hardy
OTHERS PRESENT: Susan Rogusky, Michael McBride, Lee Grassley, Laura Lowe, Tad
Davis
RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL
None at this time.
SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION
Grassley reported that the transition to a digital simulcast in which both analog and digital
transmissions are provided is complete. There were a few, but not many disruptions. Good
information on the digital transition is available at dtv.com. Coupons for discounts toward the
cost of a digital converter for those who have only over-the-air broadcast television are available
at that site. When the transition goes into effect in February of 2009 those who subscribe to
cable TV or a satellite TV service not be impacted. Mediacom does not sell digital converters.
Grassley said electronics stores such as Best Buy will have converters but cautioned against the
$40 converter carried by Wal Mart, as there have been concerns as to its reliability. McBride
reported that the University channel has experienced significant growth in the number of
programs produced. There has also been a large increase in the number of programs submitted
by University departments for cablecast. Channel schedules are now being submitted to the "fV
Guide service so the listings will appear on the on-screen program guide channel and the digital
tier program guide. Hoerschelman said a big question for PATV is how to motivate new and
current producers. Mekies said PATV needs to encourage new producers. Kemp noted the
increase in production values of the school board meetings. The "P.E. For Life Programs" is
being considered by Mediacom as a video on demand offering. Hardy reported that the City
Cable TV Office is in the middle of a project installing new carpet and painting. Candidate
forums are being taped and cablecast for the June 3 primaries. The Video Voter Project is also
underway. Anew program with the Mayor, At Home Iowa City, will be taping a second
program soon and will feature outdoor art. Hagen and Mekies said that they like the idea of
allowing citizens to address questions to the mayor. I~Iardy said the mayor is determining the
shape of the program and it must be kept in mind that the mayor is one of equals on the City
Council. Hagen suggested that the involvement of the new city manager be sought.
ELECTION OF OFFICERS
Mekies nominated Hoerschelman for chair. Hagen seconded the nomination. Hoerschelman was
elected chair unanimously. Gordon nominated Hagen for vice-chair. Hoerschelman seconded
the nomination. Ilagen was elected vice-chair unanimously.
APPROVAL OP MINUTES
Hocrschehnan moved to approve the amended March 24, 2008 minutes. Hagen seconded the
motion. "fhe minutes were unanimously approved.
ANNOUNCEMENTS OF COMMISSIONERS
Mekies welcomed new Commissioner Robert Kemp.
SHORT PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS
None.
CONSUMER ISSUES
Shaffer was not present. Mekies said the Citychannel4.com website should include information
about the transition from analog to digital transmission.
ML IACOM REPOKT
Grassley reported that the transition to a digital simulcast in which both analog and digital
transmissions are provided is complete. There were a few, but not many disruptions. Good
information on the digital transition is available at dtv.com. Coupons for discounts toward the
cost of a digital converter for those who have only over-the-air broadcast television are available
at that site. When the transition goes into effect in February of 2009 those who subscribe to
cable TV or a satellite TV service not be impacted. Mediacom does not sell digital converters.
Grassley said electronics stores such as Best Buy will have converters but cautioned against the
$40 converter carried by Wal Mart, as there have been concerns as to its reliability.
Hoerschelman asked about the frequent 8-9 minute outages experience in Iowa City. Grassley
said there was a mistake made in setting a timer to day hours rather than night hours during the
transition to the digital/analog simulcast. Hoerschelman asked if Mediacom was compressing
high definition signals. Grassley said Mediacom does not compress high definition signals down
to the standard some operators are using such as Comcast. Comcast is technically transmitting a
high definition signal but the standard is closer to the standard of 10 years ago. Mediacom's
high detnition signal is state of the art and puts 2 high definition signals in 6 MHz where as
Comcast puts 4. Hoerschelman asked if Mediacom redirects any users of their Internet service to
other sites when the site is not found and noted that some Internet providers doing so had a
security breech that had been exploited by hackers. Grassley said Mediacom does not redirect
users to other sites in those circumstances.
UNIVERSITY OF IOWA REPORT
McBride reported that the University channel has experienced significant growth in the number
of programs produced. There has also been a large increase in the number of programs
submitted by University departments for cablecast. Channel schedules are now being submitted
to the TV Guide service so the listings will appear on the on-screen program guide channel and
the digital tier program guide. Kemp asked if programming would change much over the
summer. McBride said that DITV, the Daily Iowan newscast, will not be produced and there
will be no sports programming. All ten commencement ceremonies will be cablecast. Nine will
be live. Each will receive about three playbacks.
KIRKWOOD COMMUNITY COLLEGE
O'Brien was unable to attend but did provide a written report. Over the past quarter Kirkwood
produced 55 new programs and imported 84 new programs. Kirkwood had 2184 total
programming hours during the first quarter of 2008.
PATV REPORT
Davis reported that the PATV annual report was included in the meeting packet and that
additional information is available at the PATV studio. The `Live and Local" program will
feature the Habeas Corpus dance troop live April 28 at 7:00 p.m. 7"he week of May 4`~ will be
declared PATV week in Iowa City by the Mayor. PATV will be cablecasting special
programming that week to celebrate PATV's 19 birthday. Preparations are continuing for the
Alliance for Community Media regional conference in Chicago May 22-23. The guidelines
workshop will be held Sunday May 4 at 10 a.m. Other workshops are by appointment. "the next
board of Directors meeting will be May ] 8 at 2 p.m. Hagen said he was impressed with the large
number of public service announcements for local organizations cablecast by PATV over the
past year. Gordon noted that PATV is not open mornings or weekends. Hoerschelman said the
big question is how to motivate new and current producers. Mekies said PATV needs to
encourage new producers.
SENIOR CENTER REPORT
Rogusky reported that Senior Center Television (SCTV) has been running smoothly and has lots
of projects for the number of volunteers. Among current projects are the Artist in the
Community, a collection of oral histories regarding World War II, the RSVP project in which
pairs seniors with students in a program to promote public speaking, ajazz band concert
featuring 5 high school bands and the Senior Centerjazz band. The fourth Spanish-speaking
program was recently taped. Gordon said that SCTV does a lot with limited funds and noted that
many Senior Center TV programs get played at PATV. Rogusky said that about 5 hours a month
arc cablecast at PA"1'V.
LIBRARY REPORT
No representative was present.
IOWA CITY COMMUNITY SCHOOL DISTRICT REPORT
Lowe reported that many of their new programs are being produced by the City of Coralville.
There was a technical problem during the last Board meeting that has been corrected. The
largest segment of the school channel's programming is school board meetings. Education
Exchange has the next most playback hours. Kemp noted the increase in production values of
the school board meetings. The "P.E. For Life Programs" is being considered by Mediacom as a
video on demand offering. The application for funds from the school foundation for editing
software, reimbursement for a camera, and funds to pay a teacher to oversee student video
activities will be decided soon.
CI1~Y MF_DIA UNIT REPORT
Hardy reported that the City Cable TV Office is in the middle of a project installing new carpet
and painting. The Community Television Service remains busy and will begin the summer
season of Friday Night Concerts and Market Music programs. The Summer of the Arts events
will also be cablecast. Candidate forums are being taped and cablecast for the June 3 primaries.
fhe Video Voter Project is also underway. Anew program with the Mayor, At Home Iowa City,
will he taping a second program soon and will feature outdoor art. The program will produce
one episode per month. Hagen and Mekies said that they like the idea of allowing citizens to
address questions to the mayor. Hardy said the mayor is determining the shape of the program
and it must be kept in mind that the mayor is one of equals on the City Council. The program
will generally be on life in Iowa City and less on the issues of city government. Hagen
suggested that the involvement of the new city manager be sought.
CABLF, ADMINISTRATOR REPORT
Shaffer was unable to attend.
TRIENNAIL REVIEW
Brau said that a copy of the last Triennial Review was included in the meeting packet so
Commissioners could get an idea of what the review has entailed in the past. Brau said that in
the past the Commission has formed committees to review the areas covered in the review and
the Commission could proceed in any manner it wished. It is hoped the review could be
completed by year's end.
FCC UPDATE
Brau said that there has been no movement at the Federal Communications Commission on the
Petition for Reconsideration by organizations representing municipal interest of the recent FCC
franchising order. There has been no action on the lawsuit dealing with the same issue. Brau
said it appears that the efforts by Commission chair Martin to mandate a form of a la carte
programming is going nowhere. Martin has been unable to get the support of swing Republican
members to support his idea. Grassley said he agreed with Brau's opinion that the a la carte
proposal appears dead.
ADJOURNMEN"t
Kemp moved and Gordon seconded a motion to adjourn. The motion passed unanimously.
Adjournment was at 6:50.
Respectfully submitted,
Mike I3rau
Cable TV Administrative Aide
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MINUTES APPROVED
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MAY 15, 2008 - 7:30 PM -FORMAL
CITY HALL, EMMA J. HARVAT HALL
MEMBERS PRESENT: Elizabeth Koppes, Tim Weitzel, Ann Freerks, Robert Brooks,
Wally Plahutnik, Charlie Eastham
STAFF PRESENT: Bob Miklo, Karen Howard, Sarah Greenwood-Hektoen
OTHERS PRESENT: Carter LeaVesseur, Noah Stevens, Candice Stevens, Jay
LeaVesseur, Nancy LeaVesseur, Charlotte Bailey, Dan Smith
RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL
Recommend approval by a vote of 6-0 SU606-00003, an application submitted by Dav-Ed Limited for a
preliminary plat of Galway Hills parts 10 ~ 11, a 51-lot, 21.75 acre residential subdivision located at
Dublin Drive 6 Shannon Drive.
Recommend approval by a vote of 6-0 SUBOS-00005, an application submitted by Dav-Ed Limited for a
final plat of Galway Hills Parts 10 7 11, a 51-lot, 21.75 acre residential subdivision located at Dublin &
Shannon Drive.
Recommend approval by a vote of 6-0 SUBOS-00002, an application submitted by Jeff Hendrickson for a
preliminary plat of Hendrickson Lytham Condominiums, a 2-lot, 9.48 acre residential subdivision located
south of Melrose Avenue as an extension of Olive Court, Learner Court, and Marietta Avenue.
Recommend approval by a vote of 6-0 an application submitted by Agudas Achim Congregation to
establish a cemetery on 4.12 acres of property located south of Linder Road, west of Prairie du Chien
Road.
Recommend approval by a vote of 6-0 amending regulations pertaining to the subdivision and
development of land.
CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order at 7:34 p.m. by Chairperson Ann Freerks.
PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF ANY ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA:
None.
DEVELOPMENT ITEMS:
SUB06-00003: Discussion of an application submitted by Dav-Ed Limited for a preliminary plat of Galway
Hills Parts 10 & 11, a 51-lot, 21.75 acre residential subdivision located at Dublin Drive & Shannon Drive.
The 45-day limitation period is May 25, 2008.
Planning and Zoning Commission
May 15, 2008
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Freerks asked for staff comments. Miklo stated that the full staff report was given at the last meeting and
is available online for anyone who is interested in it. The basic information concerning the plat is that it is
51 single family lots, with 2 out-lots for the storm water management system and 2 out-lots to be added to
the existing green space. Miklo stated that at the last meeting there were concerns expressed regarding
increased traffic in the area, specifically on Dublin Drive, which along with the extension of Tipperary and
Shannon Drive, is designed to be a collector street to funnel traffic from Galway Hills and Walden Wood
to Rohret Road and Melrose Avenue. These are collector streets which are considered to be
overburdened when they carry 2,500 or more vehicles per day. City transportation planners project that
the addition of the 51-lots in Galway Hills Part 10 8 11, the existing traffic in Galway Hills itself, traffic in
Walden Woods that will choose to go north, and general traffic in the area will add up to roughly 1,500
trips per day using that street network. This projection was based on traffic counts that were taken in
August 2007. At the last meeting concerns were expressed that this count was taken in mid-August prior
to the start of the school year and thereby failing to include traffic from West High students. As a result,
traffic planners took a new count last week, which found the count to be consistent with that taken in
August 2007, with roughly 600-700 vehicle trips per day on Dublin Drive and roughly 700 vehicles trips
per day on Shannon Drive. An additional count was taken on Sunday to account for the perceived
increased traffic due to church services, and again it was roughly 600 trips per day, slightly less than the
weekday count. It was found that the increased traffic generated by the church on Sunday was off-set by
the decreased general traffic in the neighborhood on that day, a pattern consistent with other
neighborhoods throughout the city. Based on these measurements and projections, the transportation
planners, do not feel that this street will be overburdened. Miklo reiterated that in the event that it
becomes overburdened in the future there are traffic calming techniques that can be applied, and that the
streets have been designed with inherent traffic calming features such as turns which are intended to
discourage through-traffic in the neighborhood. Miklo pointed out that there will be some benefts to the
inter-connected street network for area residents: it will make it easier for the City to provide services to
the area, especially emergency services such as fire and police. The Fire Marshall has confirmed that the
more ways in and out of a neighborhood the better it is for their department, especially in an emergency
situation where one road might be blocked.
Miklo also addressed a question raised in the previous meeting regarding the relationship of the street to
the open space and the Willow Creek trail network which is in a temporary form in that area. If this
subdivision is built out, the W Ilow Creek Trail in this area will be rebuilt and improved to its permanent
state. Actually moving the road (Shannon Drive) in relation to the open space, as suggested by residents
in a previous meeting, would be difficult as the road has already been built at great expense by the
developer of Walden Hills. There was no immediate benefit to the residents if Walden Hills when that
portion of the road was built. It was built exclusively to provide connectivity to other neighborhoods at a
later date. Redesigning this subdivision to move that road in relationship to the park would be a great
expense and one of questionable value given the traffic projections for the area.
Miklo stated that the plat, as submitted, does meet all zoning requirements, subdivision requirements, is
in conformance with the Comprehensive Plan and what it calls for for this neighborhood, so at this point
staff recommends that the preliminary plat of Galway Hills Parts 10 8 11 be approved. Miklo offered to
answer any questions the Commission might have.
Eastham asked if it was still the position of staff that, as stated in the staff report, in order for bus service
to be extended to that area it needed to be a connected street. Miklo stated that in terms of serving the
west side, the Transit Department would like to create a loop in that area and this street is necessary to
do that; there is not another option.
Weitzel asked if Shannon Drive would be widened at all. Miklo replied that it will be a 31-foot street once
it gets over the culvert, which is standard for a collector street, and it is the same width that Dublin Drive is
built to.
Freerks opened the Public Hearing.
Planning and Zoning Commission
May 15, 2008
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The developer was invited to comment first, but no one came forward to speak.
Eastham disclosed that he went out to visit the proposed site after the last meeting and that while he was
there he had a conversation with a resident that had been present at the previous meeting. The general
topic of the conversation was regarding the process that the Commission went through in making its
decisions. Eastham wished to state this in the interest of full disclosure.
Carter LeaVesseur, 742 Tipperary Road, stated that he would not like to have the road put in because he
and his friends are kind of small and a lot of times adults driving cars would not be able to see them when
they were there. They do not want to be hit by cars so near their bike path.
Noah Stevens, 2459 Ireland Drive, stated that he agreed with Carter. He bikes to school on the current
path often and feels it would be very likely he would be hit if there was athrough-road there.
Candice Stevens, 2459 Ireland Drive, had a question about the traffic on Melrose Avenue. She stated
that it is diffcult already to get out of the neighborhood onto Melrose at certain times of day, and she
wondered if there were any plans to alleviate that problem of getting onto Melrose.
Miklo stated that Melrose Avenue is an arterial street and that transportation planners did look at that.
There are 12,000 trips per day on Melrose, which is not unusual for an arterial street, and is what it was
designed for. The transportation planners did look to see if there was a way to synchronize the lights at
West High and the one closer to the interstate. The difficulty there is that this is an unusual traffc signal
designed specifically to provide better access to West High, and there was not much the transportation
planners believed that they could do in terms of synchronization of the signal. They anticipate that some
of the traffic from this subdivision is going south and will have the option to take Shannon Drive and
Rohret Road. There was not much hope of improving the situation on Melrose.
Freerks asked what type of criteria was usually used to look at replacing a traffic signal. Miklo replied that
it was not actually about replacing the light, but that there would need to be a warrant to have other traffic
lights installed in the area. The traffic counts from Dublin and Galway indicate there are not and probably
never will be enough traffic trips per day to warrant a light at that intersection.
Jay LeaVesseur, 742 Tipperary Road, stated that he would like to take an opportunity for a quick math
exercise. LeaVesseur stated that the Melrose Meadows traffic counts alone were 281 cars per day, there
were 678 cars that were past Melrose Meadows (not Melrose Meadows traffic), with 51 new lots coming
in at 7 trips per day, the numbers are up to about 1,400-1,500, 650 cars coming off of Rohret Road into
the other subdivision, and still no car counts are given to anyone on Hunter's Run and the whole Weber
side of town which has grown dramatically faster than anyone could have anticipated. LeaVesseur stated
that all of those people are going to need to come over to Northwest Junior High, and to take Camp
Cardinal over to the mall area. LeaVesseur stated that Galway Hills will become the shortcut, and that all
of the traffic counts he stated were getting perilously close to 2,500. He encouraged the Commission not
to wait to solve a traffic problem after the fact if they chose to approve the plat. He said it seemed likely
that there is going to be a traffic problem heading into the situation, and that it was best to try to
incorporate solutions to those problems now by making restrictions on the road or putting some traffic
calming measures in at this point in time. Overall, LeaVesseur stated, that he understood that it would be
a great expense to move the road, but that the road is still going through the only green space in the
subdivision. He understood that the road had valid reasons for going through and that it has been in the
Comprehensive Plan for twenty years, but he stated that the demographics are changing, the counts
have changed and that it is not an unimaginable scenario that the traffic counts will be as high as the
residents are fearing. He thinks the math is flirting around those numbers already.
Miklo clarifed that the guidelines for a collector street being overburdened is 2,500 vehicle trips per day at
the mid-point of the street. The traffic from the elderly housing project was not taken into account
because that traffic is not likely to go in that direction, at least not much of it.
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Nancy LeaVesseur, 742 Tipperary Road, stated that she had a problem with the way the new traffic count
was done and felt that it was a bit dishonest not to put the traffic counters so that they included traffic from
the retirement community. She believes the counters were not put in the right spot and that as a result
the traffic counts are off. She fears that their community will become "Gateway Hills" rather than Galway
Hills, and that the Commission is underestimating the amount of traffic that will be coming through the
neighborhood and that having a park with a street through it is dangerous. She said that she understood
the desire to make it a through street to provide city services, but she does not believe that the benefits
will be for the Galway Hills neighborhood as there are already two exists in their neighborhood. What she
believes is actually the case is that the focus is getting the services over to the over-populated area near
Weber which currently does not have a fire department or another way out of their area. She would have
felt better about the project if another exist onto Melrose or Mormon Trek had been created for the people
in the Weber neighborhood, so that cutting through Galway Hills was not such an attractive option.
LeaVesseur said that while she understands that this was the deal that was made fifteen or twenty years
ago, the plan no longer makes sense, and it is the residents of Galway Hills who will be stuck with it. She
feels it funnels too much traffic through their subdivision, will be dangerous, and will lower their property
values, and she believes that no one at the meeting would appreciate the same things happening to their
subdivision. She asked the Commissioners to really think about what they would be doing.
Charlotte Bailey, 6 Kearney Court, stated that none of the Galway Hills residents were trying to be
alarmist, and that they all know roads are important and that the more roads connected in different
directions means the more options traffic has to flow. She stated that she believed that the people living
south of Galway Hills who do not have another way to get their children to Northwest Junior High, the
mall, or to West High are really the issue. The traffic coming in and out of Melrose Meadows still creates
traffic at the Melrose intersection and contributes to back-ups, even if they do not drive deep into the
subdivision. Changing the math on the number of trips the new residents will generate does not really
change the issue or the problem for Galway Hills residents. The other issue she wished to address was
not just the volume of traffc, but also the speed of traffic. She wondered if the data that was collected on
the most recent count included speed information. Bailey believes that if there is a combination of volume
of traffic and speed of traffic then this should be taken into consideration. She believes that speeds
increase in the straightaway portions of road nearest the path that was put in for kids living in Galway to
walk to West High, and that this presents a danger. Another questions she posed regarding the traffic
counter placement as it relates to the issue of speed, was that if you came up with speed data, would the
data be collected to show only average speeds. This was significant, Bailey said, because turning traffic
of those living in Galway Hills would obviously reflect lower rates of speed than through traffic that would
be using Galway Hills as a thoroughfare. She would encourage the Commission to take this fact into
consideration if they were given speed information. She reiterated a statement she made at the meeting
a few weeks ago, saying that the residents there wanted to be part of a positive process, and that if most
of the key decisions that can be made about a plan are made prior to a plat being presented to the
Planning and Zoning Commission, then this is a hard place to be heard for the first time. She encouraged
the Commission to look at the process, because it is hard to come and try to be heard when the majority
of key decisions have already been made.
Freerks asked if there were any other speakers who would like to address the Commission on this topic.
None came forward.
Miklo stated that there is a similar connection proposed for west of Highway 218 in the Country Club
Estates subdivision which would provide a circuitous connection between Rohret Road and Melrose
Avenue. When that development occurs, Miklo stated, the Commission will have a similar question
before them.
Freerks asked what the timeline on that project would be. Miklo did not feel comfortable giving an actual
timeframe as that would be determined by the developer.
Miklo also pointed out that there were several residents from Galway Hills present during the Southwest
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District planning, and that discussion of this connection did come out at that time. Freerks asked when
this took place. Miklo believes it was 2002.
Nancy LeaVesseur, 742 Tipperary Road, pointed out that in 2002 Camp Cardinal Road was not open yet,
and that it's opening changes everything. LeaVesseur did not believe the issue with Country Club
Estates would be comparable to the Galway Hills situation, as a connected street there would be used by
those in the subdivision, not by several other subdivisions trying to get out. LeaVesseur stated that
Galway Hills in comparison with other subdivisions in the area is tiny. She also stated that the person
who came to talk to the Commission in 2002 would have been the developer, not the residents who
actually live there, and the population over by Weber was not as large at the time. LeaVesseur said that
it might have been a different story if they had connected the other street first, from a subdivision to a
major road, but that what is being done in this project is taking a cluster of subdivisions and making a
gateway road for them through one very small subdivision. LeaVesseur added that the Melrose
Meadows counts are really very important as they would reflect the difficulty of trying to get out of the
subdivision in the morning. She reiterated that because Melrose Avenue is so overburdened, all of the
increased traffic in the Galway Hills area would cause traffic in the mornings to become stuck and
backed-up. She believes the Commission would be making a big mistake to approve the plan.
Freerks invited the public to comment further. No one came forward. The public hearing was closed.
Eastham motioned to approve SUB-06-00003, an application submitted by Dav-Ed Limited for a
preliminary plat of Galway Hills Parts 10 & 11, a 51-lot, 21.75 acre residential subdivision located at
Dublin Drive and Shannon Drive.
Plahutnik seconded.
Freerks invited discussion from the Commission
Brooks stated his agreement with many of the concerns the residents expressed about the traffc, and as
a result, he was not sure that he was ready to support the plat. He stated that he knew it conformed to
the master plan, the concept that was developed in 2002, but he agrees that making this the only
connection to Melrose from the west side of Highway 218 will increase traffic in the area. He does not
believe that the curves in the plan are enough of a deterrent to discourage using the new connection as a
cut-through. He stated that he has real problems with the way the area has been developed and what
appears to be the lack of street planning to get the traffic moving through neighborhoods to the
destinations they seek. He stated that he was not sure what the answer was to this, but that he was not
sure he was going to support the plat.
Eastham stated that in considering this application he began where he always begins and that is with the
Comprehensive Plan. It is clear that the Comprehensive Plan supports a connector street between
Rohret Road and Melrose at this approximate location. Eastham visited the area both to look at the
potential traffic and utilization issues, as well as the parkland issue. He believes it is a relatively adequate
amount of parkland for the subdivision. The only major issue he saw to resolve was the connection
between Rohret and Melrose. In considering the matter, he asked himself what was different about this
situation and others in the community where two major arterials needed to be connected through existing
subdivisions. He was unable to convince himself that this was an unusual or unique situation. He
believes there is an adequate alternative for traffic flowing west and north by taking Mormon Trek
Boulevard to Melrose Avenue, and believes that most people will continue to take that route. Eastham
believes that the route and the traffic calming designs will discourage cut-through traffic, and that it will
not present an attractive alternative to Mormon Trek. Eastham feels a great obligation to heed the Fire
Marshall's statement that connector streets are very important for public safety overall, whether or not
they are utilized in a particular instance; it is simply wise policy in the community to encourage connector
streets. The bus service is of concern to Eastham due to the concentration of people, especially the
substantial numbers of senior citizens and people with disabilities, and families of lower income in the
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area. Extending bus service to the area will ensure some transportation is available to those families and
individuals. For all of these reasons, Eastham stated that he is reasonably comfortable with supporting
this application. In the future, Eastham stated, it may be a good idea for neighborhood associations in the
area to get together and promote bus usage to alleviate some of the traffic. Eastham said that if traffic
speed becomes a problem it can be handled with the installation of traffic calming devices in the future.
Eastham said that his family has lived on two major streets and has some experience with traffic, and the
family did adapt to the busy traffic. He stated his intention to support the plan.
Plahutnik stated that part of sitting on the Commission and voting is making sure that they have not made
a snap decision, but that they have thought through their decisions. Plahutnik stated that he is on-record
as being anti-sprawl and pretty much anti-development. If within the confines of the Comprehensive Plan
he could deny any of this, he would. Plahutnik added that that statement goes back as far as the rest of
Galway Hills, Hunter's Run, and all of the rest of the sprawl that has spread out from Iowa City. This,
however, is not the role of the Planning and Zoning Commission. Plahutnik stated that from what he
heard, it sounded as though the Commission or staff designed this subdivision. Plahutnik stated that this
land belongs to somebody else who has property rights over the land. The developer has designed the
subdivision in a process with staff being there to make sure that at every step the developer is complying
with the rules that have been set down. That, said Plahutnik, is staffs job. Plahutnik stated that to the
extent that staff can nudge a developer in a direction that is more beneficial to the community, he believes
that we have a pretty enlightened staff which does that. Plahutnik believes that the role of the Planning
and Zoning Commission is being misunderstood. The Commission is there to ensure that development is
fulfilling the letter of the law. In this instance, the developer has worked well within the recommendations
of staff, Plahutnik said. The main concern brought forward by the residents seems to be traffic. The bulk
of traffic in the area, according to Plahutnik, will continue to be that of residents. Plahutnik put forth the
question for consideration of whether or not residents of a community will drive responsibly within that
community. He believes that speed issues have been addressed pretty well by the street design and that
if it turns out they are not adequately addressed, they can be resolved in relatively short order. Plahutnik
wished to make the point that this is really no longer a subdivision; it is a part of Iowa City. He states that
he lives right on Gilbert Street and that the traffc does not present an irresolvable issue for his family; that
it has worked across America in hundreds of communities since the post-War years when traffic began
steadily increasing. It is time some city services were provided to the area, as the city is f lling in.
Plahutnik said that as in-fill happens, the areas left as isolated subdivisions will soon be few. For these
reasons, and for the reasons Eastham articulated -fire and police coverage, bus service-Plahutnik
supports this application, and commends the developer for working within the framework and working
with the City so well. Plahutnik stated that the stubbing for all of these properties and the fact that the
road was to be filled in has been there for all to see for quite some time, and should not be a surprise.
Koppes stated that she will support the plat. She has some concerns about traffic, but feels that she must
go with what the traffic planners have been reporting, which is that there will not be a traffic problem. If
traffic becomes a problem, she believes it should go right back to the City immediately. Concerning the
park, Koppes suggested the idea of a community garden space for the neighborhood. The bus routes will
not present a traffic problem, according to Koppes' experiences, and will provide benefit to the
neighborhood. Koppes pointed out that every neighborhood has some traffic concerns, but that part of
filling in the city is connecting such streets.
Weitzel agreed that traffic was a pervasive problem in the community, and is everybody's problem.
Weitzel does not believe that traffic is a reason to stop this project. He does not see how we could take
one section of the community and say that it does not have to have roads through it, but everyone else
does. The positive sides of the street connection are in providing fire safety and police security. Weitzel
stated that he would like to see a wetland and a prairie there instead of a subdivision, but that that is just
not going to happen. Weitzel said that the subject had to be viewed fairly and from the vantage point that
an allowance for some sort of growth must be made. Weitzel stated that this was not a new plan; the
subdivision has been growing for some time. He stated that the street design and topography allowed for
some natural traffic controls and that in the event that traffic became a problem in the future, traffic-
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calming measures could be implemented. Weitzel encouraged those present to think in terms of wild
optimism and toward the future when perhaps cars were not needed, or were much smaller, or everyone
rode the bus. He stated that there are a lot of reasons why this plan has met the necessary criteria,
although he can see why the residents are upset about it. Weitzel recounted that he lived in a
subdivision that had a neighboring subdivision come in and to which current residents were opposed. He
said that though many were upset about the idea of it, no one really talked about it anymore. He
acknowledged that change in your neighborhood is a difficult thing, and that traffic is a back and forth
thing that everyone in the community lives with. He stated his support for the project.
Freerks agreed with many of the comments presented and said that she did not know what she could add
that would be much different. She stated that the plat was in agreement with the Concept Plan that was
developed long ago and the Comprehensive Plan. Freerks said that there were opportunities to get
involved at earlier stages, and that people need to make themselves aware of the plans for their area and
realize that streets will be connected eventually. Freerks believed that the curves will help with traffic
calming and that speed is an issue all over the community. She urges residents to address the problem
immediately if they do experience speed issues in the future. She stated that it would be negligent in their
duties as the Planning and Zoning Commission to not allow for this connection of streets. Freerks stated
that she lives on a secondary arterial and has a four year old and a nine year old who have learned to
respect the cars. Part of living in Iowa City is everyone sharing the roads. Freerks stated that while she
knew residents would not be happy with this decision, the connection is part of the bigger plan. She
thanked residents for their input and advised them that they could contact the City Council with further
concerns.
The motion was voted on and passed 5-1 (Brooks voting no)
SUB08-00006: Discussion of an application submitted By Dav-Ed Limited for a fnal plat of Galway Hills
Parts 10 & 11, a 51-lot, 21.75 acre residential subdivision located at Dublin & Shannon Drive.
Miklo stated that the fnal plat is in two parts, Part 10 which includes Dublin Drive, Tipperary Road and
Shannon Drive, and Part 11 which includes Limerick Lane, and would complete the subdivision. The plat
as submitted is in compliance with the subdivision regulations and zoning code. Staff will be reviewing
the construction drawings and legal papers related to the project, and recommends approval subject to
approval of those documents prior to City Council consideration.
Freerks asked if the Commission had questions for staff. Eastham asked if the developer was obligated
to complete Part 10 of the plat first, so that the street connection was one of the first things done on the
project. Miklo stated that this was correct. There were no other questions for staff.
A public hearing was opened on the issue.
Nancy LeaVesseur, 742 Tipperary Road, wished to point out that the 92 year old man who began
developing this piece of property was very much opposed to this street connection; he wanted to cap the
street off and loop through the development. LeaVesseur felt that this version of the plan was forced onto
him, and was not consistent with his original vision for the development. She stated that she had lost a
lot of respect for the process.
There were no further comments from the public.
The public hearing was closed.
Eastham motioned to approve the application submitted by Jeff Hendrickson for a final plat of Galway
Hills Parts 10 & 11, a 51-lot, 21.75 acre residential subdivision located at Dublin Drive & Shannon Drive.
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Koppes seconded the motion.
Freerks invited discussion from Commission members.
Eastham wished to point out that it often happens that a developer may have had a different street
pattern in mind then that in the Comprehensive Plan, and sometimes the Comprehensive Plan has to
prevail.
Brooks made clear that he would vote in favor of the final plat because the preliminary plat had already
been approved, but that he still holds the same concerns and disagreements. He acknowledged that the
developer had done what was required of him, but feels concern that all of the traffic west of Highway 218
still has no other convenient connection between major destination points.
Freerks stated that the final plat is consistent with the preliminary plat and she would be voting to
approve.
The motion carried in a 6-0 vote.
SUB08-00002: Discussion of an application submitted by Jeff Hendrickson for a preliminary plat of
Hendrickson Lytham Condominiums, a 2-lot, 9.48 acre residential subdivision located south of Melrose
Avenue as an extension of Olive Court, Learner Court, and Marietta Avenue. The 45-day limitation period
is May 22, 2008.
Miklo stated that the Commission voted on the planned development for this project at a previous
meeting, but that the subdivision had been mistakenly left off of the agenda. The subdivision basically
creates two lots, Lot 1 & Lot 2. It also creates the Leamer Court loop and extends Marietta Avenue.
Miklo said that the subdivision is in order for approval and staff is recommending approval at this time.
There were no questions or staff.
The public hearing was opened and closed with no comments.
Brooks motioned to approve an application submitted by Jeff Hendrickson for a preliminary plat of
Hendrickson Lytham Condominiums, a 2-lot, 9.48 acre residential subdivision located south of Melrose
Avenue as an extension of Olive Court, Leamer Court, and Marietta Avenue.
Eastham seconded.
Freerks invited Commission discussion. Eastham thanked Brooks for pointing out the error in the
subdivision having been left off the agenda at the previous meeting.
The motion carried 6-0.
CONDITIONAL USE ITEM:
0008-00001: Discussion of an application submitted by Agudas Achim Congregation to establish a
cemetery on 4.12 acres of property located south of Linder Road, west of Prairie du Chien Road.
Miklo stated that this property is just beyond the city limits, north of Interstate-80, west of Prairie du Chien
Road. It is in the Iowa City/Johnson County fringe area, and county zoning code provides for City
comment on any conditional use permit within our fringe area. If the City objected for some reason, then
it would take asuper-majority of the County Board of Adjustment in order to approve the item. The plan
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would expand the existing cemetery to the east and south. It would include a new interior roadway and
seven parking spaces. This property was rezoned last year with the anticipation of this plan. Linder
Road is a fairly narrow road that does not provide for off-street parking, so the addition of the interior road
would be seen as an improvement to the existing situation. The property is heavily wooded. The County
does have their own Sensitive-Areas Ordinance which they would apply to this development. Staff
recommends approval at this time.
Freerks asked if there were any questions for staff.
Eastham asked if this area was likely to be annexed by the City at some point. Miklo responded that it
does fall within the City's growth area. Eastham asked if the City's parking requirements would be met by
this plan. Miklo said that he did not believe the City had parking requirements spelled out in the code for
cemeteries. He said that the roadway's width of 18-feet should allow for a car to pull off to the side of the
road informally and let another vehicle pass.
Freerks inquired about whether or not there were restrictions on the quality of road to be put in. Miklo
was not sure what the County standards would be. Freerks asked if there was signage on the property
informing nearby residents of the Conditional Use application. Miklo said that the County had posted
signs, but that the City had not.
The public hearing was opened. No one wished to speak to the issue and the hearing was closed.
Koppes motioned to approve an application submitted by Agudas Achim Congregation to establish a
cemetery on 4.12 acres of property located south of Linder Road, west of Prairie du Chien Road.
Weitzel seconded the motion
The motion passed 6-0.
DISCUSSION OF AMENDMENTS TO TITLE 15, LAND SUBDIVISIONS: Consideration of amendments
to regulations pertaining to the subdivision and development of land.
Freerks noted that the matrix prepared by staff outlining the proposed changes to regulations and staff
recommendations for each of them was gone through by the Commission in their informal work session
on Monday, May 12, 2008.
Howard asked if the Commission had more questions for staff, or if the Commission wished to go ahead
and go through those items on the matrix in which the Commission was interested in recommending a
change.
Freerks stated that the Commission would proceed by opening the public hearing and allowing for
comments and then close public hearing, entertain a motion, and from there bring up any amendments
they wished to discuss.
Miklo pointed out that Ron Knoche, City Engineer, was at the meeting and available for comments and
questions.
The public hearing was opened
Dan Smith, 905 Wylde Greed Road, stated that he was present on behalf of the Homebuilders'
Association and the Land Development Council. He stated that some while some of their concerns had
been alleviated, others remained, and in the interest of time he would focus on those. One issue he
wished to bring up was the notion of what is a "complete" application. The issue, Smith stated, really
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revolved around what it takes for an application to be deemed complete.
Freerks asked for clarification on which exact proposed amendment he was referring to, so that the
Commission was able to follow along..
Smith stated that in the interest of making things as easy as possible, he would refer to the matrix. He
was referring primarily to numbers 5, 6, and 7 on page four, all of which speak to having a complete
application. There is no provision in the code that talks about what a complete application is. The hope
and goal is that clarification will enhance the Homebuilders' and Land Development Council's ability to
submit a complete application the first time, thereby speeding up the process for all.
The second thing Smith wished to address was on page 24 of the actual subdivision document. In this
section, the code requires amid-block pedestrian connection in a development "unless that connection is
deemed to be unnecessary by the City, and can be waived...." He requests that the City highlight a few
of the circumstances that contribute to the connection being waived, and flesh out the details of this
clause.
Smith stated that he would be happy to answer any questions the Commission might have, and noted
that they were working on a revised document addressing these issues more fully.
Eastham noted that currently a preliminary plat does not reach the Planning and Zoning Commission until
it is complete and has no more than six technical deficiencies. Eastham asked Smith if at some point the
Homebuilders' Association and the Land Development Council intended to suggest specific language
either within the existing subdivision code or some additional language. Smith replied that what they had
requested was a one mandatory staff review. He said that while they did not wish to burden the
Commission's agenda with horribly inaccurate applications, their recommendation was that if there is
something that they are not doing in the code or in other ruling legislative language, the City should be
able to point to that and say exactly wherein the deficiency and noncompliance lies. That is why they
made the recommendation of one mandatory staff review, which they understand may not be feasible, but
may get the ball rolling. Citing the code provision would make the defciencies clear to all parties.
Howard recalled a conversation from the Monday work session in which the issue of defying a technical
defciency was raised by a Commission member. Staffs hesitation in doing so, she stated was that it is
such a broad term and there are so many different types of standards involved. If it would help the
process or make it more clear for the development community, Howard said, staff could probably add a
broad definition of what deficiency is, saying, "including, but not limited to... " She wished to make it
clear that these are not discretionary design issues that are being talked about, but technical construction
specifications and legal issues such as zoning standards and engineering standards that you must
comply with in order to meet the code. This is in contrast to idea of where the streets should go and
designing the lot layout, which are policy issues and the kind of questions where staff and a developer
might disagree, but are not the kinds of deficiencies being addressed here.
Miklo said that the deficiencies staff was speaking of are missing or incorrect measurements, easements,
noncompliance with zoning requirements. At this point, Miklo said, staff did not have language for the
Commission defining these circumstances, but that before the Council, staff could develop a sort of
descriptive list of issues typically found as deficiencies on a plat. In this case, the amendment would be
to insert language to def ne deficiency as one or more of these types of things.
Plahutnik asked if somewhere there was a document that stated what a plat consists of. Miklo confirmed
that this is found in the subdivision regulations themselves, the engineering standards, and the zoning
standards. Plahutnik replied that there are documents that could be easily cited. Howard noted that as
most subdivisions in Iowa City go through one firm, she believes that firm knows fairly well what the City's
construction standards are. These are complicated documents, Howard said, and it is typical for
technical mistakes to be made when the applicant's consultant is in a hurry to submit the application. The
City Engineer's Office goes through these documents in detail and highlights discrepancies or omissions.
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Howard asked Ron Knoche to address the detailed process the engineers take in reviewing the
documents. City Engineers, Howard said review every mark on the plat and then send it back to the
developer's engineering firm, who then makes revisions and returns it to the City Engineer who once
again reviews every mark on the plat. If there are major changes or deficiencies from the time of the
original submission, it is going to take awhile to resolve. Those are the kinds of technical things we are
talking about.
Greenwood-Hektoen added that even some non-technical deficiencies, such as labeling something as an
easement where there was none, is an example of an issue that must be cleared up prior to proceeding.
Things such as this are hard to define.
Knoche stated that the process City Engineers go through in reviewing the applications is basically the
same process the contracting engineer goes through in designing the development. They review each
calculation, checking the math, making sure the dimensions are correct, the call-outs for specifications
are correct, and any other unique situations that might come up in a given subdivision. Knoche stated
that it was not a matter of going through the documents in an hour or two; rather it was a multiple day's
process. He maintained that to have to go through and cite each provision as to why something does not
comply with standards and regulations would actually slow the process down, not speed it up, nor would it
help the consultant design things better.
Koppes asked if Engineering was the department that evaluated whether the fire codes were satisfed.
Miklo replied that it was the Fire Marshall who did this. He said that there are several departments that
review the application, including: Fire Marshall, Engineering, Water, Housing & Inspections Department
Planning Staff, Parks and Recreation. Howard stated that the application comes through planning and is
sent out from there to the various departments to be reviewed. At their joint staff meetings where
everybody is there from the different departments to discuss it. In a separate meeting, the City Engineers
generally meet face to face with the consulting engineers to discuss the plat.
Freerks asked if it was one engineer working on a specific plat, or was it more of a group effort. Knoche
replied that typically the engineer that starts amulti-phase subdivision stays with that subdivision all the
way through to provide continuity for the developer and the City.
Koppes asked if the engineers have a list of things they look for. Knoche replied that the review of the
final plat is based on what is in the code.
Eastham asked for clarification of this answer. Knoche said that for preliminary and final plat reviews they
make sure that the items called out in the subdivision code are met. The construction specifications and
design standards are what are then used for the technical side of the review.
Eastham asked if the parts of the code to which Knoche referred were all in 15-2-2-B. Knoche said the
construction standards are not.
Howard asked Knoche to address how consistent those construction standards are across jurisdiction.
Knoche said that the current standards being used was a joint process developed between Iowa City,
North Liberty and Coralville, and so engineering standards are generally consistent amongst the
communities and not unique to Iowa City.
There is also a statewide construction standards document to which Iowa City contributes, and which
Coralville, Iowa City, and North Liberty eventually hope to adopt.
Howard said she pointed this because having consistent standards across jurisdictions makes it easier for
any engineering firm within these jurisdictions to comply consistently.
Brooks asked for clarification that staff would be willing or is currently working on some additional
language to clarify or defne technical difficulties so that there isn't that potential policy-type issue.
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Howard said that she believed that they could come up with some type of broad def ninon which said,
"included but not limited to ..." Brooks noted that there was something similar to that in the explanatory
notes on the matrix staff had provided. He believes that when it comes to a defciency that is based
solely on technical standards, it should be straight-forward. Brooks said the Commission should not be
dealing with technical deficiency, that that is what the City's experts in their various fields are for.
Eastham asked if staff was at this point going to come up with some additional language defining
technical deficiency. Freerks believed that this type of specific question should be held for the
Commission discussion phase, and not in the public hearing.
Freerks asked if Smith had anything further to say prior to the public hearing being closed. Smith stated
that 15-2-2-B provides pretty good objective measures. Smith said what they've asked is that comments
be returned within 20 days regardless of department, so that there is consistency which would allow
developers to plan out the process with some degree of certainty. Smith added that 15-2-2-B provides
pretty good objective measures.
Eastham asked for clarification on the 45-day limitation period as it pertains to the 20-day proposal Smith
had made. Miklo stated that the 45-day limitation period is a state law. He added that in order to get an
application on the Planning and Zoning Commission's agenda, they must have the comments back well
within the twenty days, usually within two weeks all initial comments are back. Howard added that this
was the initial set of comments. If the developer then makes revisions to the plat, then it must be
reviewed again. Miklo said that they do try to accommodate developers; if deficiencies are minor then
they work with the contracted engineer to try to get them resolved so it can get on the Commission's
agenda as soon as possible. If the deficiencies are significant or there is a long list of them, then that is
not possible. Those delays, Miklo said, are the fault of the consulting engineer who submitted an
application with multiple mistakes.
Weitzel asked Smith if he was actually seeing problems with long delays, or if this was a preventative
measure. Smith said that it was both. Smith stated that the concern was not so much the time in which
the application was before the Planning and Zoning Commission as there is a built-in statutory time limit,
but the timeframe in getting the application to that point. Smith said that he had been told anecdotally
that comments from one city department may come in immediately, whereas another department's may
come in much later. Smith said there was no deadline that they were aware of prior to the application
being placed before the Commission. He acknowledged that there may be an internal schedule, but that
it is unknown to the developers.
Freerks asked if the 20-day limit was intended to be from the day an application was sent in. Smith said
yes. Miklo clarified that comments trickle in because if Planning gets comments early, they go ahead and
forward them to the consulting engineers. Smith said that the Homebuilders' Association and Land
Development Council were trying to get their members to take advantage of the City's pre-preliminary plat
meetings where all parties are at the table. Encouraging this is their way of trying to streamline the
process as they are asking the City to do in implementing a 20-day policy.
Greenwood-Hektoen pointed out that the time period being discussed was the time period in which an
application had not yet been deemed complete. At that point, she said, the burden is still on the
developer to submit a complete application. It should not be up to the City to point out various technical
deficiencies that the consulting engineer should have been aware of prior to submission. This is why the
deadline is set at the point at which a complete application is submitted rather than any application at all.
Smith said they were not asking for the 45-day clock to begin running an earlier; they are just asking to
consistently get the comments in a timely fashion; the 20-day number is negotiable.
Howard said that the Planning Department's hope was that when the application is submitted it is
complete and accurate. When that is the case, it should not take very long for the various departments to
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review it, and it will go directly to the Planning and Zoning Commission. On the other hand, Howard said,
if developers are using City staff as quality control, then it takes longer. She believes that this is where
the dispute comes in.
Koppes asked how often an application was submitted that was so complete and accurate that it went
right through to the Commission. Miklo said that an example would be the Galway Hills fnal plat which
had very few technical deficiencies. He said that this was an "above-average' example.
Plahutnik stated that the Commission does not see applications that are not complete; staff does. He
said that while Smith had heard anecdotal evidence of City delays, Plahutnik imagined that anecdotal
evidence could be gathered in the other direction in which applications ranged from the equivalent of
something drawn on a napkin to a complete, amazingly accurate technical drawing. Plahutnik said that
what Smith was saying was that the drawing on the napkin and the nearly complete application both
would need to get comments back within 20 days. Plahutnik said that not taking into account the lower
end of that scenario was making an unreasonable demand on staff. Smith replied that in taking the worst
case scenario things always sound extreme.
Eastham asked how such an ordinance could be enforced. What would happen if the City departments
did not return their comments within 20 days? He understands what happens when a complete
application is submitted: the Planning and Zoning Commission votes on it and it goes straight to Council.
The Council could adopt a policy that asks staff to return comments within s certain amount of time, but
he does not see how this could be made into an ordinance.
Howard said that there are some larger cities that upon receiving an application that has a number of
deficiencies it is rejected out of hand with no comments from staff and returned to the developer for
completion. Howard said that they do not like to do that; they like to work with developers to try to work
things out and get it to the Commission as quickly as possible. She said that it would not be to the benefit
of the developers to have these very precise and exact procedures laid out in the subdivision code.
Freerks said that all could agree that it is a complex process and that everyone wants to make sure it is
done fairly and accurately.
Eastham said it would be helpful if there was some sort of data or list showing the number of applications
that were affected in this way.
Miklo said that a study was done a few years ago to answer this question, as it is one that has been
ongoing. It turned out that typically it was four to five weeks between the time the application was
submitted and the time the Commission was voting on it. Miklo said there are outliers that take longer
because of complicated issues facing the project. An example is Whispering Meadows Development that
was approved last year and had a wetland and various other sensitive features. The plans that were
originally submitted would have resulted in a subdivision that did not drain properly and would have had
effects on neighboring properties. It took a year to work through those issues because of the wetland and
other topographical features and the need to get approval from the Army Corp of Engineers. So there are
some projects out there that take extended periods of time, however, Miklo said that for those projects the
finger must be pointed at the consulting engineer who designed it.
Knoche stated that one item called for in a complete application is that construction plans are according
to the specifications of a City Engineer. Basically that means that there are no more "red lines" on any of
the documents, all problems identified by the engineer have been resolved. Current practice is to go
through the entire document and point out every defciency before returning it to the consulting engineer
so that they have the opportunity to fx things. According to the language, Knoche stated, once the City
Engineer comes across one deficiency they are within bounds to stop and send the document back to the
consulting engineer, saying that they will not look at it further until all errors are corrected. Knoche thinks
there is a lot of give and take in working with the development community in that the engineers do a full
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review of the plans, not stopping after one error and sending it back to them. Knoche said that if the
development community wants to seta 20-day limit, then it needs to start when a final set of construction
documents that are perfect are submitted. However, it will take a much longer time to get to that point if
those sorts of limitations are set. He believes his department has a good working relationship with the
development community, and wants to see it remain flexible and reasonable. Knoche also noted that due
to the slow market, turn-around time is much quicker than it was four or five years ago. He thinks the
process works very well although he acknowledges that there are anomalies out there.
Freerks asked for further comments. None were forthcoming.
The public hearing was closed.
There was some discussion regarding the best way to proceed with motions and recommendations for
changes to the subdivision.
Koppes made a motion to approve amendments to Title 15, Land Subdivisions, as recommended by staff
in the matrix "Proposed Amendments to the Staff Recommended Draft of the Subdivision Code," in #5
adding the word "technical" to language concerning deficiencies.
Miklo interjected that staff did not in fact recommend adding the word "technical" to deficiencies.
Koppes withdrew the motion.
Koppes motioned to approve Title 15, Land Subdivisions, including the amendments from the matrix
dated April 25, 2008, for items #8, #10, #11, #21, and the frst paragraph of #27.
Weitzel seconded the motion.
Freerks opened the topic for Commission discussion.
Koppes stated that she would like to amend #5 to include the word "technical" to deficiency. Freerks
asked if she could spell that out and make a motion to do so. She believed an amendment to the motion
may be necessary. Greenwood-Hektoen pointed out that the current motion did not include #5, and that
after the current motion was voted on, #5 could be addressed.
Freerks restated that there was a motion and a second and that the Commission was currently in
discussion to approve 15, Land Subdivisions, including the amendments from the matrix dated April 25,
2008, for items #8, #10, #11, #21, and the first paragraph of #27.
Eastham required further clarification, asking if voting in favor of this motion to approve the recommended
subdivision code with the additions outlined in the various sections of the matrix would preclude the
Commission form offering further amendments to change the subdivision code. Greeenwood-Hektoen
stated that it was her understanding that further amendments could be permitted.
Howard and Freerks asked Greenwood-Hektoen what the best procedure for voting would be for when
the changes go to Council, so that they would not have to go through a whole list of amendments one by
one.
Miklo stated that what Council will receive is a draft that includes any amendments the Planning and
Zoning Commission has approved.
Plahutnik, Freerks, and Eastham thanked the Homebuilders Association, staff, and other members of the
public for their input on the issue.
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A vote was taken and the motion carried 6-0
Freerks asked of there were further amendments to discuss.
Koppes motioned to add the word "technical" in front of deficiency in item #5 and add a defnition of some
sort.
Eastham seconded
Freerks opened for Commission discussion. She asked if it was clear to staff what was being asked of
them in this motion. Brooks said that rather than having to list every single violation, having a clear
understanding of the word technical deficiencies would be more effective. He pointed out that there was
somewhat of a definition of it already in the explanatory notes of #7.
Miklo stated that staff recommendation would be to skip the word "technical," but to def ne deficiencies.
Koppes said that as she understood it there were two kinds of deficiencies, design deficiency and
technical deficiency. Miklo stated that design was a policy issue, not a deficiency. Greenwood-Hektoen
pointed out that there are deficiencies other than technical, for example, legal deficiencies, or things
required by the fire department that are not fulfilled. Brooks stated that those would be technical
deficiencies because they are things that can be specifically tied back to the code or the law; they are not
opinion or design issues. Freerks contended that the scope of what could be considered a deficiency
makes it difficult to define. Brooks said that he just wants to make sure everyone is comfortable with what
a technical deficiency is defned as. Miklo said that staff's goal is to draft a definition that excludes things
like street curve notes, etc. Brooks said that if we cannot define it we cannot expect anyone to live by it.
Plahutnik stated that when engineering makes a red line on a plat, it is clear what the deficiency is. He
asked if when others are looking at the code -fire, water, housing inspections-is it also as
straightforward what the deficiencies are. Plahutnik said that it seems as if this referring back to the
original codes is already done. Koppes said that having a definition could only help to clarify things; she
did not expect and exhaustive or comprehensive list as things change and you never know what's
coming. Koppes asked for clarification on why staff did not wish to have "technical" in the definition.
Howard replied that it opened things up for an argument on what is and is not "technical." Howard asked
if it would help if they had a list of types of items that would be considered deficient which stated "included
but not limited to these types of things' and similar things, but not including the word "technical." Koppes
said that that would be fine and that she would modify her motion.
Koppes modified her motion to create a definition of deficiencies that would include but not be limited to
an illustrative list.
Brooks asked what the distinction was between a deficiency and a discrepancy. Howard stated that a
deficiency is something that is missing, whereas a discrepancy is something that is inaccurate.
Eastham stated that he continues to be bothered by the way the code is written right now whereby the
staff can prevent the forwarding of an application to the Commission because in their view it contains too
many deficiencies. In his view, he's not quite so sure that that's a good way to construct the process. It
appears to give the applicant very little recourse to move an application from a discussion about how
many deficiencies it has to being reviewed by the Commission. Koppes stated that she agreed but that
this was not part of the motion on the table. Furthermore, Koppes pointed out, it was the Commission
who stated that they did not wish to see applications with so many deficiencies anymore. Eastham stated
that he thoroughly agreed that a plat should not have more than a few deficiencies before coming to the
Commission. The questions, Eastham said, is what if there is a big disagreement within staff about the
deficiency and they prevent the application from moving forward. Brooks said that he wasn't sure the
Commission should be the arbiter of what is a deficiency. To him, that is set by the City Manager and
approved by the Council. Those are the things that are deficient. If a developer feels they are being
unduly harassed, Brooks said, he believes there is recourse for them besides the Commission. Howard
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stated that the recourse would be through the Board of Adjustment. Howard could not recall any
instances in which the engineers disagreed about a technical construction standard, but that if there was
an actual disagreement about an interpretation of existing code language, the arbiter of that is the Board
of Adjustment. Howard said that she did not think the disagreements that occur between staff and
developers are over these types of deficiencies. The disagreements are over policy-type questions.
Eastham stated that this answered his concerns; the applicant has some recourse. Plahutnik stated that
15-2-2 pretty clearly says what complete is and then lists, and so it is not really question of staff being in a
position to hold an application up. As soon as the list is met, it is complete by definition. Freerks stated
that she did not believe staff tries to hold things up. Eastham clarified that that was not what he was
saying; his concern was giving proper recourse.
There was no further discussion on the motion. Weitzel requested that the motion be restated before
being voted on.
Freerks restated the motion as: a definition of deficiency including and not limited to a list that staff will
come up with before this goes on to City Council.
The motion was carried in a 5-1 vote (Plahutnik voting no).
The Commission discussed changing wording in item #17 of the matrix. Miklo said that staff recommends
changing the language from "adjacent property owner' to say "designated property owner or
homeowner's association." Howard suggested the following language: "property owners or homeowner's
association as designated in the sub-divider's agreement."
Weitzel moved to amend item #17 to the language just stated.
Koppes seconded.
There was no discussion.
The motion carried 6-0
Weitzel wished to discuss item #24, per discussions at the informal meeting. Miklo stated that the
discussions at the informal had resulted in tabling this particular item until further discussions with Parks
and Recreation could be had. Howard stated that this particular item is in existing zoning and subdivision
code so changes to the existing language are not recommended at this time. Eastham agreed that the
issue would need further discussion.
Howard brought up that there were probably some cross-references within the draft that would need to be
cleaned up if the changes were made.
Eastham wished to discuss item #23, the noise buffer provision, 15-3-4-0 in code. Eastham wished to
make a motion to remove 15-3-4-C be removed from the draft of the subdivision ordinance.
Brooks seconded.
Eastham stated that while this is swell-intended provision, he thinks that some of the objections raised by
the Land Development Council on this are well-taken. He finds particularly valid the recognition that a
300-foot buffer would not necessarily offer noise reduction in some of the areas along Highway 218. He
is not comfortable having a provision in the subdivision code that is supposed to address the specific
problem of noise control when it is clear from the outset that the provision will not be effective in some
instances. In his opinion, noise levels are something that can be evaluated by potential buyers.
Koppes pointed out that that may not necessarily be the case depending on when they buy the house as
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in the summer the trees provide a buffer, but in the winter, with no leaves, the buffer disappears.
Brooks stated his agreement with Eastham. He believes it sets an unaccomplishable goal. He says that
studies fall predominately on the side of the argument that vegetation does not necessarily buffer sound.
He said it should be up to the developer to provide a good visual screen.
Weitzel stated that this is a standard that is trying to avoid the problem of opening your door right onto
interstate traffic.
Brooks said he struggles with the City mandating 300-feet out of development for a visual screen under
the guise of requiring a sound buffer. He suggested that perhaps the City needed to buy that portion of
the property if that was there objective. He felt he would have to have time to think about this and
validate that this type of ordinance was really reducing the noise in the way it is intended.
Freerks requested a view of the map showing what areas were being discussed. Miklo described the
different areas of the map where the ordinance applied.
Freerks stated that the City strives to create quality neighborhoods, which does not include building right
up to the interstate. Brooks asked that the quality neighborhood not be sold on a sound buffer as that
was not what he believed the ordinance was about. Brooks said that it was a visual screen that was
intended. Eastham said there appeared to be people willing to buy homes in very noisy areas. He felt
that if it was clear that sound reduction could be achieved at some reasonable cost and with reasonable
certainty, then he would have a much different opinion. Miklo said that as the language is drafted there is
an opportunity for the developer to create a berm or a wall to get closer to the 60 decibel or less level.
Koppes said she almost felt this policy should go to Council. Miklo stated that the Commission was there
to make a recommendation on policy. Koppes said that while she would not personally buy a house
along the interstate, how far should the Commission go to protect people from buying them that want to.
Miklo said that one of the other concerns was that in a hot real estate market, such houses sell.
However, fifteen or twenty years after the house is built and it needs rejuvenation and reinvestment and
there are whole neighborhoods, is someone going to be willing to reinvest in them or will we be left with
while neighborhoods that are deteriorating? Brooks said that he does not disagree, he simply does not
like the fact that it is being sold on the premise of reducing sound. Miklo replied that part of the intent is
that you have 300 feet to work with to plant trees, build a berm, or do something. Brooks reiterated that
this again was a visual screen being discussed, not actually a sound barrier. Howard said that she
believed 300 feet sometimes works as a sound barrier. Distance and berms can work as sound barriers.
Plahutnik asked if the word "noise" was left out of Section 1, and the wording simply stated "buffer," and in
Section 2 the decibel level remained, would that meet everyone's concerns? Plahutnik said this would
take away staff's concerns about noise, and Brooks's concerns regarding selling the idea on a false
premise. Brooks stated that that would mean changing the wording in the title that said "To Reduce the
Effect of Highway Noise ... " Plahutnik maintained that that could easily be changed to "To Reduce the
Effect of Highway Impact." Brooks said he was comfortable with it going forward to Council; he just didn't
like selling it on the idea that it would reduce the noise. He thinks what is being done is to try to create a
visual barrier between highway and any development, commercial or residential. He thinks that the City
should have a policy in general that wouldn't allow anything like what happened along Highway 218 in
Coralville.
Eastham said that it was a good discussion of the issue, and Freerks called for a vote.
The motion failed 4-2 (Eastham and Brooks voting yes).
There were no further issues to discuss on this item.
CONSIDERATION OF MEETING MINUTES: MAY 1, 2008
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Eastham motioned to approve the May 1, 2008 minutes. Brooks seconded.
The motion passed 6-0.
OTHER:
Miklo stated that the election of Vice-Chair would be on the June 5, 2008 meeting agenda.
Discussion was held on returning to the 5:30 p.m. meeting time for informal meetings and it was decided
that for the time being, informal meetings would be held at 6:00 p.m.
ADJOURNMENT:
Weitzel motioned to adjourn. Koppes seconded.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:00 p.m.
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MINUTES APPROVED
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MAY 12, 2008 - 6:30 PM -INFORMAL
CITY HALL, LOBBY CONFERENCE ROOM
MEMBERS PRESENT: Elizabeth Koppes, Tim Weitzel, Ann Freerks, Wally Plahutnik,
Charlie Eastham
STAFF PRESENT: Bob Miklo, Karen Howard, Sarah Greenwood-Hektoen, Ron
Knoche
OTHERS PRESENT: Dan Smith
CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order at 6:31 p.m. It was noted that Greenwood-Hektoen and Eastham would
have to depart early and that Howard arrive late.
DEVELOPMENT ITEMS
SUB06-00003 8 SUBOS-00006: Discussion of an application submitted by Dav-Ed Limited for a
preliminary plat and a final plat (respectively) of Galway Hills Parts 10 & 11, a 51-lot, 21.75 acre
residential subdivision located at Dublin Drive & Shannon Drive. The 45-day limitation period is May 25,
2008 for the preliminary plat and June 8, 2008 for the final plat.
Miklo began by addressing concerns brought up by Galway Hills residents at the last Commission
meeting. Residents had expressed concerns about traffic volume if the road connection between Galway
Hills and Walden Hills to the south were completed. Miklo said that the connection would allow Galway
Hills residents to exit their subdivision to the south, just as it would allow Walden Hills residents to exit
their subdivision to the north. Miklo said that it could be assumed that some additional traffic would use
the neighborhood, but that traffic planners think it will be limited. Miklo pointed out that Mormon Trek only
has only a few traffic signals in that area and that as a result it would remain the fastest route.
An updated traffc count was done by transportation planners, given the concerns residents had brought
forward that the previous count could be flawed if it was not taken while school was in session. Miklo
stated that in order for a collector street to be considered overburdened it would have to have 2,500
vehicle trips per day. The new traffic counts were much in line with the previous ones, showing
approximately 700 trips per day on Dublin and 700 trips per day on Shannon, for a combined total of
under 1,500. He noted that only a percentage of the traffic from Shannon would travel to the north and
some of that would be offset by traffic from Galway Hills being able to travel to the south once the
connection is made.
Regarding the concern about additional West High students using the street if it were connected, Miklo
said that there were 120 enrolled students west of Highway 218. Even if every one of those students
began using this road when it was completed, the traffic counts would still remain well under 2,500
vehicle trips per day.
A positive aspect of the completion of the road would be that city services would be improved to the area
and transit services could be established. Miklo said that the overall vehicle trips and miles traveled may
actually go down if the road is connected and this was important towards minimizing greenhouse gasses.
Next, Miklo addressed the issue of park design that had raised concerns among current Galway Hills
residents. Miklo said that the greatest difficulty in alleviating these concerns is that the north part of
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Shannon Drive is fixed, having been built by the Walden Hills developer to a certain point. Miklo believes
that rebuilding the road so that it does not run through the middle of the park would not be financially
feasible or justified based on traffic projections and the great cost of doing such a project. He said that if
there are issues with traffic flow or speeds, the area could become eligible for traffic calming. Miklo said
that taking traffic calming measures beyond those already built into the street design before knowing if
there would be traffic problems and what those traffic problems would be, would not be advisable.
Eastham remarked that Shannon seems to narrow as it goes north. Miklo said that that may be because
of the culvert in that area.
Eastham said that he did have some concerns about the park-land issues, and wondered if the City had
accepted responsibility for the parks at this point. Miklo said that the City had not. Eastham wondered if
the City intended to buy playground equipment for the park area, and expressed concern for the marshy-
ness of the area. Koppes suggested that the community could use part or all of the space as a
community gardening lot.
Eastham asked what the parking policy on the through streets would be, if there would be any
restrictions, and if parking policies might affect speeds. Miklo responded that in the traffc counts done
the week prior, speeds seemed pretty typical of similar neighborhoods, and that as a collector street,
there would be no restrictions on parking unless requested by the neighbors. Miklo added that the issue
of West High students using the street for parking was not observed during the traffic counts.
Miklo stated that he was recommending approval of both the preliminary and final plats for this project.
Koppes asked if there were any mitigating factors that would even legally allow the Commission to deny
this project. Greenwood-Hektoen remarked that legally the Commission did not really have a basis for
denial. Miklo remarked that in general a pretty compelling reason was required for the Commission to
deny a plat that has met all other approval criteria.
Eastham asked if there were comments obtained from the Police Chief regarding connector streets.
Miklo said that there had not specifically been comments on this project, but that the position of
emergency services was generally that the more connector streets the better.
Eastham and Koppes agreed that public transportation becoming available in the area was a positive
change.
Plahutnik said that the issue of street connectivity would be an important factor in his decision.
SUBOS-00002: Discussion of an application submitted by Jeff Hendrickson for a preliminary plat of
Hendrickson Lytham Condominiums, a 201ot, 9.48 acre residential subdivision located south of Melrose
Avenue as an extension of Olive Court, Lamer Court, and Marietta Avenue. The 45-day limitation period
is May 28, 20085.
Miklo stated that this was a procedural matter, having been mistakenly left off of the last meeting's
agenda. There was no discussion held on the matter.
CONDITIONAL USE ITEM:
0008-00001: Discussion of an application submitted by Agudas Achim Congregation to establish a
cemetery on 4.12 acres of property located south of Linder Road, west of Prairie du Chien Road.
Miklo stated that this was a conditional use application being submitted to provide for expansion of an
existing cemetery. The plan includes 7off-street parking spots in addition to the parking provided along
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the side of the cemetery road. Staff is recommending approval of the plan.
Freerks noted the wooded area in photographs shown by Miklo and asked if this was considered a
sensitive area. Miklo replied that the County, in whose jurisdiction this cemetery lay, has its own sensitive
areas ordinances which would govern the County's actions for the area. The item was before the City
because the cemetery was within the City/County fringe area and County regulations allow for City input
in these cases.
DISCUSSION OF AMENDMENTS TO TITLE 15, LAND SUBDIVISIONS: Consideration of amendments
to regulations pertaining to the subdivision and development of land.
It was decided to go through the staff-prepared matrix entitled "Proposed Amendments to the Staff
Recommended Draft of the Subdivision Code," dated April 25, 2008, discussing each of the items
individually.
Item #1: Amend the definition of "Alley," deleting the word "abutting." This item was withdrawn by the
original requestors.
Item #2: Amend definition of "Boundary Line Adjustment" defining it as a certain percentage of a lot rather
than 1,000 square feet." Staff expressed reservations about changing this as Staff had experienced no
instances in which the current definition had been a problem, and was concerned for the ramifications of
this with a large piece of property.
Item #3: Request for clarification: What is a "public open space improvement?" Staff stated that this is
defned in City code and is a generally understood term. Koppes agreed that no clarifcation was needed.
Freerks asked if the submitting developer, Glen Siders, had expressed why he felt the need for
clarification. Plahutnik wondered where the quote was taken from. Howard stated that the quote was
from the section of the code defining "improvement," and that the City does not want to accept open
space as an improvement until the lots are built.
Item #4:15-1-7B Clarify when a full release will be granted by the City for storm water facilities.
The City Engineer, Ron Knoche, stated that the new language would allow for a little more flexibility to
accept improvements prior to completion of the subdivision. He said that with the adoption of the new
Construction Site Run-off Permit, it will become even less of an issue. Koppes asked what the City does
with the land used for stormwater detention. Knoche replied that some of these areas become city parks,
some are maintained by the homeowner's association for the area, and some are maintained by the
developer. Howard said that the request was for clarification on when a full release will be granted.
Weitzel stated that the main concern was to avoid having a bunch of lots with soil eroding throughout the
city. Plahutnik asked for clarification on whether a release was granted when the project was finished or
when the City Engineer said so. Howard said that typically all infrastructures would have to be in place
before that release was granted, so this provision would allow the flexibility for the City to accept the land
earlier if the City Engineer determined that erosion would not be problem, for example, if all the lots
surrounding the detention basin were developed first.
Item #5: Include language providing for one mandatory staff review, with any further review at the
discretion of the applicant, who may choose in the alternative to petition the Planning and Zoning
Commission of review. Delete language prohibiting plats proceeding to the Commission when there are
more than 6 deficiencies. Howard pointed out that a plat can already go to the Commission without Staff
recommendation. Koppes asked how the number 6 deficiencies had been settled on. Miklo stated that in
the past it was not uncommon to find plats with 20 or more deficiencies coming before the Commission,
and that the Commission asked not to see anything with more than 6 deficiencies. Howard explained the
nature of a technical deficiency versus a disagreement on subjective design issues. Koppes asked if the
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word "technical" might be inserted prior to "deficiency" to clarify the matter. Miklo explained that design
issues were a matter of policy disagreements whereas deficiencies were a matter of inaccurate or missing
information required by code. Freerks asked if deficiency could at least be defned to clarify matters.
Howard suggested that because deficiencies covered a vast area of possible errors in a number of fields,
defining it might be difficult. Howard and Miklo agreed to consult with the City Attorney's office and the
Public Works Department about the possibility of defining this term.
Item #6: Request that all departments reviewing the plat must provide their written comments to the
applicant within 20 business days. Freerks asked if this was 20 business days from when the application
comes in or 20 days from when the application is complete. Howard stated that if applications are
complete when they are received comments are typically back to the applicant well before 20 days,
because the application, if complete, would be put on the P&Z agenda approximately 2 weeks after
received. If, however, the application is incomplete or has a lot of discrepancies, there may be a number
of revisions necessary before they are ready to be sent to P&Z. If there are changes made to the
documents after they are returned to the applicant, then Staff has to review them again, generating new
comments. Miklo stated that an applicant usually knows within a week if their application is too
incomplete to fully review.
Item #7: Request that any code deficiencies be clearly cited to the corresponding existing City code or
ordinance provision. Howard stated that since the vast majority of plats are prepared by the same
consulting firm, the City's engineering standards are well known. The reviewing engineer will redline the
plat noting any corrections that need to be made. Requiring the engineer to reference each detailed
engineering specification would likely cause unnecessary delay and redundancy. Most of the codes, other
than perhaps zoning which is slightly more discretionary, are very clear-cut and self-explanatory. Written
comments are given to the developer explaining what deficiencies need to be resolved. Staff prefers to
maintain the current flexibility to work with developers rather than codifying such an arrangement that
may actually slow down the process. Weitzel said that it sounded as if developers were insinuating that
there was something capricious or arbitrary governing some of these non-compliance issues. Freerks
asked if this was a frequent problem. Miklo said that if Staff cannot point to a City code, then it becomes
an issue of design, and design issues are not deficiencies.
Item # 8: 15-2-3B-3 Amend the language so that a digital copy of the plat is only required after everything
has been finalized. Howard stated that only the final plat is required to be compatible with the County's
GIS system. Early digital copies can be in simple pdf form and helps to reduce unnecessary paperwork
as revisions are made. Staff suggested making this distinction clear in the code.
Item #9: 15-2-3C-9e: Delete this paragraph because there are a lot of possibilities for things to become
"peculiar," a term which is not defined. Howard stated that the term "peculiar" is used quite frequently in
City code and it means unique or specific to. It is not new language. This allows subdivider's agreements
to be tailored to the specific property being subdivided.
Item #10:15-2-3A-5 Delete this provision or provide further guidance as to its purpose and scope.
Howard stated that current wording is intended to benefit the applicant and allow the flexibility for minor
changes between preliminary and final plats. Staff suggested changing the language to make this section
more clear.
Item #11: 15-2-36 & C Add a new subparagraph to 15-2-36 and a new subparagraph to 15-2-3C that
would require a note on the final plat and in the sub-divider's agreement to the effect that notes on plats
are not intended to create any stated use- restriction or covenant or create any third party beneficiaries to
any noted use restriction or covenant. This change was requested by the City Attorney due to a recent
court case.
Item #12: Delete paragraphs A2, 3 and 4, plus various questions submitted by Glen Siders regarding this
section. This section adds language establishing standards for street connectivity. There is currently no
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language in the code regarding this issue to give the applicant, staff or the Commission any guidance with
regard to review of proposed streets within a subdivision. Howard stated that Staff position is that it is
better to have a code that provides guidelines so that reviews can be fair and consistent over time.
Item #13: 15-3-2B-2 Clarify what the additional "projected traffic generation" calculations or methodology
the City will utilize and rely upon. Howard said that the City uses the ITE traffic generation manual and
local traffic counts and studies to project traffic generation. These are industry accepted methods.
Item #14:15-3-2C Street Types -Retain current right-of-way standards as sufficient minimums. Howard
stated that even with an increased right-of-way, Staff does not anticipate much loss in lots, as lot lines
can be adjusted to accommodate it. Miklo stated that staff reviewed various plats to determine if
increasing the ROW widths to better accommodate bicycles and street trees would affect the number of
lots that could be achieved and found that since most lots were not exactly at the minimum lot size,
boundaries could be adjusted so that there was no net loss in the number of lots achieved.
Item #15: 15-3-2C Street Types -Clarify when and who has the discretion to choose between a 26 and
28 for pavement width for cul-de-sacs and local residential streets. Howard said that the intention was to
let the developer decide based on the neighborhood needs.
Item # 16: Table 15-1 -The request from Bob Elliot was to not reduce the street pavement width for local
residential streets from 28 feet to 26 feet. Howard stated that a narrower pavement width generally
equals lower traffic speeds.
Item # 17: 15-3-2F-3 Delete language requiring adjacent property owners to maintain landscaped areas
within medians of cul-de-sacs and loop streets. Miklo said that generally what happened is the
homeowner's association takes it over, or people in the neighborhood just informally take care of it.
Plahutnik pointed out that "adjacent property owners" could be deleted as it does not matter to the City
who does it so long as someone is responsible. Staff will consult with legal prior to making any
modifications to the language. The Commission indicated little interest in requiring the City to maintain the
grassy areas of all cul de sac bulbs in the City, since this was not parkland or open space that was
benefting the public at large.
Item #18:15-3-2H-5 Develop specifications for the construction of emergency service turnarounds.
Howard said these specifications are in the International Fire Code. Public Works and Fire Code
standards are not in the subdivision code; they are in separate documents.
Item #19: 15-3-2J Private Streets -Question about designating responsibility for maintaining private
streets and the procedures and financing of such services. Howard stated that while there may be
appropriate places for private streets, the City generally discourages them as often people are unaware
that they live on a private street and expect the City to solve maintenance issues.
Item #20: 15-3-3G Remove this paragraph regarding mid-block pedestrian connections or extend the
length of the block before requiring one. Delete subparagraph 1 in its entirety. Amend subparagraph 2 to
allow for current maximum block lengths of 2,000 feet. Amend subparagraph 3 to allow for current
minimum block lengths along arterial streets. In subparagraph 4, delete the 900-foot maximum cul-de-
sac length and substitute "1000 feet." Howard stated that currently there is not much of a standard for
block length. While it is best to have more streets with greater connectivity, where that is not possible,
mid-block pedestrian connections are an alternative method of achieving connectivity at least for
pedestrians and bicyclists. Plahutnik asked if there were instances where it could be waived. Miklo said
that language allows the City to waive for example when there is no apparent destination.
Item #21: 15-3-46-4 Exempt corner lots from this standard that requires double-fronting lots to be 125%
of the required lot area. Howard stated that this was not the intention of the code language. It was
intended for lots with parallel frontages. She said that language could be added to exempt double-
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fronting corner lots.
Item #22: 15-3-4B-7 Clarify that only "public open spaces' as defined by Code are subject to
subparagraph 7. Howard stated that staff was at a loss of how to make the language more clear. Freerks
and Plahutnik agreed.
Item #23: 15-3-4C Provisions To Minimize the Effect of Highway Noise -Delete this subsection in its
entirety. Weitzel stated that good design maintains property values and makes quality of life better for
those who live in the area. He maintained that certain people would benefit from being able to develop
right up to the white line. Howard stated that the federal government encourages local jurisdictions to
create standards for residential development near high volume roadways, such as interstate highways.
Howard said that some people do not realize how loud the traffic can be when purchasing homes along
the interstate and the noise level varies from summer to winter. Miklo said the best solution in their view
is to develop that land for non-residential uses, but requiring a buffer area was the minimum necessary.
Item #24 15-3-SB -Create an incentive and reward sub-dividers who voluntarily create open space by
providing credits towards the required fees in lieu. Howard stated that this was an interesting idea but
that it would require further study. Plahutnik stated that this was a recipe for gated communities with one
entrance. Miklo said that Staff recommends coming back to this, putting it on the pending list, and
studying it with the Parks & Recreation Commission. Koppes said that Windsor Ridge has all of that park
space that is really the backyards of the residents, with no access other than through private property.
Miklo reiterated that Staff would like to look at this idea in more detail, but recommended no change at
this time.
Item #25: Delete this subsection. Howard said this is only across-reference to public works codes and so
should not create any conflict with actual regulations.
Item # 26: Delete the words "and beyond, as necessary." Knoche commented that there are times when
there are topographical constraints or issues with some neighbors not allowing it to be extended for
example in which this language becomes necessary to ensure that neighboring properties can be
developed in the future.
Item #27: Amend subparagraph A to include only projects that have not received final plat approval as
opposed to "constructed." Delete subsections B and C. Staff agrees to amend the paragraph in this
manner. The developer typically works it out with the Post Office; the City would like to be involved to
potentially add their voice to the decision if need be. Staff is against deleting subsections B and C.
Item #28: Delete subsection15-3-12B -Staff is against deleting this subsection.
Item #29: 15-3-14C Delete "at its discretion, may' and insert "shall." Howard said the intent behind this
language was to avoid leap-frog development and amending the language would tie the City Council's
hand with regard to setting priorities for capital improvements.
Weitzel asked the best procedure for making motions to make changes in the Formal Meeting. Miklo said
that the best thing to do would be to make motions to make changes for the ones the Commission wished
to change. It was decided not to go through the entire matrix at the formal meeting, but to identify those
things they wish to change and then make their motions.
Koppes asked when the Commission would be voting on aVice-Chair. It was decided that this would be
placed on the agenda for June 2, 2008.
There were no further questions or concerns
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ADJOUNRMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 8:12 p.m.
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FINAUAPPROVED
POLICE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD
MINUTES -May 13, 2008
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CALL TO ORDER: Chair Michael Larson called the meeting to order at 5:30 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Elizabeth Engel, Loren Horton, Donald King, and Greg Roth
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Legal Counsel Catherine Pugh (5:31p.m.) and Staff Kellie Tuttle
STAFF ABSENT: None
OTHERS PRESENT: Captain Tom Widmer of the ICPD; and public, Dean Abel
RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL
None.
CONSENT
CALENDAR Motion by Horton and seconded by King to adopt the consent calendar as presented
or amended.
• Minutes of the meeting on 04/08/08
• ICPD General Order 89-04 (Civil Rights)
• ICPD General Order 91-07 (Investigative Case Screening Process)
• ICPD General Order 92-01 (Infectious Disease Control)
• ICPD General Order 99-03 (Prisoner Transport)
• ICPD General Order 00-10 (Evidence and Property Handling Procedures)
• ICPD General Order 01-07 (Police Media Relations/Public Information)
• ICPD Quarterly/Summary Report (15` quarter) - IAIR/PCRB, 2008
• ICPD Department Memo 08-16 (January-February Use of Force Review)
• ICPD Use of Force Report -January 2008
• ICPD Use of Force Report -February 2008
Motion carried, 5/0
OLD BUSINESS Future Forums -The Board directed staff to check into availability at the Library for a
meeting room. They also agreed on Tuesday, September 16 at 7:30 P.M. with
Tuesday, September 23 as an alternate date. The Board would like a press release
in the paper and a media release on the Internet to inform the public of the forum,
and possibly contacting the paper to do an article on the forum for further exposure.
Content of the meeting will be a brief 5-10 minute history/summary of the Board
given by Horton and also on the process of filing a complaint. Roth will contact the
Police Chief to see if a representative from the department could be present to field
questions and possibly give a presentation of the Police Department's formal and
informal complaint process. Then the meeting would be opened up to the citizens to
hear their views. Discussion will continue at the Board's next scheduled meeting.
NEW BUSINESS None.
PUBLIC
DISCUSSION Abel is glad to see that the Board is addressing the upcoming forum and that the
history of the Board will be revisited.
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BOARD
INFORMATION Horton informed the Board that his term and also Engel's term is up September 1
and that he would still be available to give the presentation at the forum.
Abel asked the procedure for Board appointments and was directed to the City
website where vacancies are posted.
STAFF
INFORMATION Tuttle handed out information regarding the public reception for the new City
Manager, Michael Lombardo.
EXECUTIVE
SESSION Motion by Engel and seconded by Roth to adjourn into Executive Session based on
Section 21.5(1)(a) of the Code of Iowa to review or discuss records which are
required or authorized by state or federal law to be kept confidential or to be kept
confidential as a condition for that government body's possession or continued
receipt of federal funds, and 22.7(11) personal information in confidential personnel
records of public bodies including but not limited to cities, boards of supervisors and
school districts, and 22-7(5) police officer investigative reports, except where
disclosure is authorized elsewhere in the Code; and 22.7(18) Communications not
required by law, rule or procedure that are made to a government body or to any of
its employees by identified persons outside of government, to the extent that the
government body receiving those communications from such persons outside of
government could reasonably believe that those persons would be discouraged from
making them to that government body if they were available for general public
examination.
Motion carried, 5/0.
Open session adjourned at 5:55 P.M.
REGULAR
SESSION Returned to open session at 6:23 P.M.
Motion by Horton, seconded by King to set the level of review for Complaint #08-03
to: 8-8-7 (B)(1)(a), On the record with no additional investigation.
Motion carried, 5/0.
TENTATIVE MEETING SCHEDULE and FUTURE AGENDAS (subject to change)
• June 10, 2008, 5:30 P.M., Lobby Conference Room
• July 8, 2008, 5:30 P.M., Lobby Conference Room
• August 12, 2008, 5:30 P.M., Lobby Conference Room
• September 9, 2008, 5:30 P.M., Lobby Conference Room
Pugh will not be available for the July 8`h meeting.
Tuttle informed the Board of administrative changes to the mediation forms.
ADJOURNMENT Motion for adjournment by Engel and seconded by Horton.
Motion carried, 5/0. Meeting adjourned at 6:31 P.M.
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