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MINUTES
• PROJECT AREA COMMITTEE
July 5, 1973
The Project Area Committee met in regular session on July 5, 1973
at 3:30 p.m. in the Conference Room of the Urban Renewal Office.
Members Present: Henry Linder
Tom Wegman
Byron Ross
Kent Braverman
Les Moore
Pearl West
Pat Carney
Glen Roberts
Russell Mann
Walter Chudwick
Members Absent:
Helen Louis
Dick Feddersen
Ray Mossman
George Crawford
John Williamson
Helen McGreevy
Staff: Jack Klaus
Pat Wilson
Mike Jones
Guests: Robert Downer
Joseph Kinney
Harold Donnelly
press
Mr. Mann moved, seconded by Mr. Moore, that the minutes be approved
as distributed. The motion carried unanimously.
Discussion began on the grievance filed by Mr. Joseph Kinney, owner.
of The Annex tavern. Mr. Robert Downer, attorney for Mr. Kinney,
opened discussion by saying that successful,relocation of The Annex
was'a matter of opinion, Mr. Kinney being of the opinion that the
business.could not be successfully relocated and therefore filing
for a payment in lieu of moving expense with the Department of
Urban Renewal. Some important factors considered by Mr. Kinney in
the relocation of his business were: proximity to downtown because
of the clientele which were mostly University -oriented persons
faculty and 'students -- and the space available for relocation.
• Mr. Linder stated that the PAC was under, the impression that The
Annex was in fact being relocated to the property at 126 South
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• July 5, 1973
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Clinton the former location of the Dotty Dunn Hat Shop.
Mr. Kinney emphasized that this was not the present Annex, that in
fact, it was a tavern being opened under the name,"The Annex" nnex" by
an employee of the present Annex tavern in conjunction with Mr.
George Nagle who is purchasing the building. Mr. Kinney also stated
that Mr'McLaughlin had never, discussed this development with Mr.
Kinney and that the old.corporation was still in effect as long as
it operates, then it is dissolved.
Mr. Moore!Iasked whether the stockholders were the same in the pre-
sent corporation as in the future business. Mr. Downer answered
no.
Mr. Braverman wondered about the dollar differential between what
Mr. Kinney would receive either way, as'a relocatee and as'a dis-
placed business who receives a payment in lieu of moving. The
payment in lieu of moving was stated as being from $2,500 to $10,000.
Jack Klaus reemphasized that, based on other cases and the fact
that another tavern was indeed being placed in the downtown, i.e.,
the new Annex, the Department of Urban Renewal felt"that the busi-
ness can be successfully relocated and therefore would not qualify
for a payment in lieu of moving. He also emphasized that the
business itself does not have the option unless they qualify and
in the opinion of the Department, The Annex did not qualify. Mr.
Mann wondered if the Project had purchased the property yet. Jack
Klaus replied, "No."
Mr. Kinney stated that the purchase was dependent on the outcome
of the hearing.
Mr. Mann wondered how many places cited in the letter from Mr. Jones
to Mr. Kinney were available at the present time. No answer was given.
Mr. Braverman asked if a rent supplement would be available to Mr.
Kinney if,a new place would mean a considerable boost in rent. The
answer was no.
Mr. Mann asked if Mr. Kinney had been offered any other place in
downtown iowa city. Mr. Roberts stated that the Department of Urban
Renewal, as he understood its function, was not responsible for find-
ing another place of business for businesses being displaced, that
the Department would generally assist, however.
Jack Klaus again emphasizedthat the point in question was whether
or not the business could be successfully relocated. Mr. Braverman
stated that there should bel some type of determination as to
whether or not Mr. Kinney wants to be relocated.
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Mike Jones stated that Mr.McLaughlin felt that the business can be
successfully relocated as evidenced by the fact that he is reloca-
ting a tavern to the previously -mentioned address on Clinton Street.
Mr. Ross stated that there was a difference of, opinion.
Mr. Roberts stated that he was under the impression at the time
the Project Area Committee voted on the plans for the tavern to be
located at 126 South Clinton, The Annex was moving to that location.
Mr. Kinney blamed the useof the', same name on Mr. Nagle.
Mr. Linder wondered why The Annex was not equated to Michael's Tavern
which received a payment in lieu ofmoving. Mr'. Moore stated that
the owner of Michael's was in ill health and advised'not,to enter
into anew business.
Mr. Mann stated that it was a, matter of exposure -- that is, where
can Mr. Kinney go so that,,,the exposure is the same as it is now.
Mr. Ross wondered where there would be comparable square footage in
the downtown area.
Mr. Roberts again emphasized, that it was not the responsibility
of the Urban Renewal Department to relocate any commercial business. r
Mr. Linder stated that he felt Mr'. Kinney would qualify for a pay-
ment in: lieu of moving under sections "b" and "c" of'the HUD require-
ments. Jack Klaus emphasized that HUD would not concur in a pay-
ment in lieu of moving, therefore, local money would ',be,necessary
to reimburse Mr. Kinney and the Council would have to concur in the
figure.
Mr. Ross stated that based on the letter from HUD of January 10th,
that he felt HUD should re-examine their decision.
The ,Committee then went into closed session to determine whether
or not they should concur on Mr. Kinney's'grievance. By a vote
6 for and 3 against, the PAC recommended that Mr. Kinney's claim
for a payment in lieu of moving expenses be denied. The meeting
adjourned at approximately 5:30 p.m.
Resped'Kfully submitt Pat Wilson for
R. Patrick Carney, Secret
of
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MINUTES
• PROJECT AREA COMMITTEE
The Project Area committee met in regular session on October 24,
1973, at 7:30 p.m. in the Conference ROOM Of the Urban Renewal
Office.
Members Present: Kent Braverman:
Patrick Carney
Walter Chudwick:
Richard Feddersen
Henry Linder
Helen Louis
Russell Mann
Ray Mossman
Les Moore
Glen Roberts
George Crawford
John Williamson
Members Absent Byron Ross
Pearl West
Tom Wegman (excused)
Helen McGreevy
staff: Jack Klaus
Pat Wilson
Nancy Nelson
(See attached sheet for members of the press and other guests)
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Linder. Approval of the
minutes of the last meeting of July 5, 1973, was deferred to the
next meeting. This was moved by Mr. Mann and seconded by Mr.
Braverman.
Jack Klaus stated that Mr. Wegman would not be present, but he was
Alliance's
not resigning because of pressures from the People
because of a possibleabsence at the
conflict of interest. His
meeting was because of a previous commitment.
Mr. Linder recognized Michael Pill, a representative of the People's
f and Ms. Patricia
Alliance, who read a letter signed by himsel
Anderson, stating their opposition to Mr. Wegmanis remaining on the
Project Area committee and the Design Review Board and Mr. Fedder-
sen's close connection with a member of the Old Capitol group while
he sat on the Project Area committee. The letter is filed on
record, as accepted by Mr. Linder.
Mr. Feddersen questioned why he was named in the letter. Mr. Pill
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• October 24, 19713
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answered that Mr. Feddersen holds stock in the company and there-
fore, his opinion might be biased in their favor. Mr. Feddersen
emphatically stated that he had no money invested personally, that
his wife was a stockholder and he had absolutely no control over
his wife's actions in the group.
Mr. Williamson pointed out that Mr. Feddersen had been involved in
the downtown and its development approximately 20 years before any
money had been invested, and therefore he saw no conflict of
interest.
Mr. Linder then turned the 'meeting over to Jack Klaus who presented
the pro . posal of the Old Capitol Business Center Company. Questions
that arose during the presentation were asked and answered as they
arose.
Mr. Braverman asked if there was a limit to the amount of City dollars
that would be used in the Project. Jack Klaus stated that commit-
ments were made by the City Council when they approved the 1973-
1977 Capitol:Improvements Program!. He stated that a total of
$5.150 million was committed to the building of parking facilities.
During the presentation of the maps outlining the condominiums to
be built, Mr. Carney wondered about the possibility of low income
housing being built somewhere in the Project Area. The answer was
that unless and until the federal government released housing
funds, there would not be a possibility of such housing since the
cost would not allow it. Mr. Moore wondered whether there would be
a market for these townhouses with Univer sity-oriented people or
even townspeople in general. Jack answered that Link!Programs, Inc.
had surveyed people in downtown Iowa City as well as hospital and
University people and determined that many would prefer living
close to downtown.
Mr. Moore then asked whether the developer can sell pieces of un-
developed land to private families or'individuals. Mr. Klaus answered
no.
Mr. Crawford asked about the possibility of low income housing in
the future. Mr. Klaus stated that there was a section of the Project
that could be converted into low income housing along with some of
the condominiums if the funds were available.
Mr. Braverman wondered where the City's portion of the financing
for parking facilities would come from. Mr. Klaus stated thatt most
likely the funds would come from revenue bonds.
Mr. Roberts wondered if the bus depot would be owned by Old Capitol.
The answer was yes, probably leased to the person who runs it.
lie also wondered about the possibility of land ownership by small
businesses. He was told this would not be possible.
Jack Klaus stated that the total completion time for the project
would be 6 years from January 1, 1974, to December 31, 1980, or
thereabouts. He also stated that the squarefootage of the mall
would be 308,350 retail/office space.
Mr: Braverman brought, up recent reports that the Clinton Street
Mall .tenants were in jeopardy by Old Capitol's plan requiring the
modulars be moved prior to previously planned times.'' He was 're-
assured by Mrs. Freda` Hieronymus, representative from Old Capitol
that the development, would just have to work around the modulars
y y p Table in the new devel
and that the would stay until space was available
opment.
Mr. Roberts wondered if the developer cared that Burlington would '.
bisect the project area. Jack stated that Burlington was the only,
major 'east -west arterial street downtown and would have to remain
open.
Henry suggested that the committee defer recommendations and a
final decision until the Redevelopment' subcommittee had a chance
to'meet and make its recommendations He suggested that they try to
get back to the Council with a recommendation within 10 days.
Mr. Braverman suggested that they then turn the plans over to the
Redevelopment subcommittee. Mr. Mann wondered if the City Attorney
had made an interpretation as to the legality of the plans.,, Jack
Klaus stated that he had and had found no major problems with the
plans.,
The recommendation' was made that the subcommittee should meet and
then call the PAC together for a final decision. Jack stated that
the first recommendation would probably be'the 'first of many and
that after modifications, if any, the PAC would again meet and
make recommendations regarding plans and specifications for 'speci-
fic parts of the redevelopment.
Mr. Feddersen reported on the meeting of the general public held
the 'night before the PAC meeting. He stated that he saw the plan:
as an incorporation of many previous plans, using the best of each
one, with many new innovations.
Henry wondered if there had been any objections from the public at
that meeting. Mr. Feddersen answered that he thought mostly there
were just questions, no serious objections. Mr. Moore thought that
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• October 24, 1973
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there had been one objector.
Henry stated that one objective of this plan was to,raise the tax
base fasterthanpiecemeal development would have done. Mr. Braver-
man didn't agree with that premise. He stated that he felt it
important to satisfy the committee with alconcentrated effort to
get the job of redevelopment done.
Mr. Feddersen stated that the ,final decision was the Council's'.
The ownership of small businesses was then discussed in_great detail.
Mr. Bravermanstatedthat the Project hadWhichlthel.beensmallbursented
to the small business owners as a way by
owners could own -a part of the newly -developed downtown, and that
the City would be real estate brokers. Mr. Klaus stated that this
conhethept had beenthatntimemore than a year ago and had been discussed
wit
* Mr. williamson moved that, subject to the review of the committee,
the PAC should relay to the Council that its initial impression of
the plans was 'favorable. The motion died for lack of 'a second.
Mr. Moore stated that he wanted to wait until after the election to:.
make a recommendation'to the Council. Mr. Feddersen disagreed with
dn't really ',make any difference. Mr.
this idea, stating that it di
Linder wanted to make sure'the general public's impressions were:
de.
known before a final recommendation was ma
Jack suggested the PAC could write the Council a letter making this
clear. Mr. Braverman stated there was no rush. Chairman Linder
suggested that they report to the Council that the PAC had seen the
entire presentation and had referred the matter to the Redevelopment
subcommittee for its report.
* Feddersen moved that the Chairman be instructed to refer the plans
to the Redevelopment Subcommittee for its review who''is-in turn in-
structed to return promptly with its recommendation to the full Project
Area committee so that the PAC may make a recommendation to the Council.
Mr. Braverman seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.
Mr. Crawford wondered when the Redevelopment'subcommittee would meet.
was Mr. Moore's responsi
Mr. Linder answered that that bility as he
was chairman:
The Chairman then called for New Business. There was none presented.
• The Chairman called for old Business. None was presented.
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Mr. Ken Haldeman from,Buc's Leathers then made a statement on
behalf of the small businesses in downtown Iowa City, particularly
those
in
the Mall who were fearful of being ein lost in the shuffle"
of
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a large corporation and overshadowed 9 P in the covered mall by large
ar e
chain '.corporations.
Jack Klaus responded byat the Cit was committed to a sal b
Y the small uai-
nesses'as illustrated by initial n developer solicitation.
Mr. Carney stated that the Committee itself was not very informing
with regard to when and where meetings would be held and solicitation,
of ,public input. Mr. Linder stated 'that `all they could do was to pub-
lish meeting
ublish,meeting times and places and the public couldn't be forced to
attend.
Mr. Braverman suggested that before any, decision by the PAC was
made, they should actively solicit public input, particularlythat
of the businesses downtown.
Mr. 'Mann then moved that the meeting be adjourned and Mr. Braverman
seconded. The meeting was adjourned at; 10:25 p.m.
Respe tfully submitted, Pat Wilson for
R. Patrick Carney, ecretary