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ITEM 3. COMMUNITY COMMENT.
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Bailey: This is a time for people who, um, wish to address the Council on items that are
not on tonight's agenda. If you wish to speak to an item that is not on tonight's
agenda, please approach the podium, state your name for the record, and limit
your comments to five minutes or less.
Dvorsky: My name is Melvin Dvorsky. I live at (noise on mic). I'd like to address the
Council this evening on a matter concerning the moratorium on building, uh,
more...more bars here in Iowa City.
Bailey: Melvin, this is later in the agenda, in Planning and Zoning, I believe. So, if you
could speak at that time, that would be helpful.. Thank you. Anybody else
wishing to address the Council?
Ford: Hi, my name is Liz Ford. I'm with Friends of the Animal Center Foundation, um,
and we support the Iowa City Animal Care and Adoption Center, and um, I think
that, um, you got a letter from the Foundation, uh, telling you a little bit more
about what we do, so I'm not going to go into that. Um, but...what I did want to
tell you is that while we're still waiting for, um, the final word from FEMA, and
still hopeful that it's going to be a yes, um, we're sort of starting to take some steps
and looking at where, you know, where to locate the shelter, and the Director of
Animal Services, Misha Goodman, and I met with, um, or we went to the, um,
Parks and Recreation Commission meeting last week, and we gave to them, um,
just a really brief description of some ideas that we had about possibly locating
the new animal shelter we're hoping to build for our city in a park area, and I have
copies for you guys tonight, um, I made eight copies to give to you, so I'll hand
that over. Um, the Foundation wants to, um, really wants to locate the animal
shelter in a park type area. We really think it would benefit the City in many
ways. Um, the animals, the people that care for them, and the people that use our
recreation in the parks, um, we're hoping that the City will also be, um, happy to
promote that too, and we'd like to ask Council to support that. So...um, I'm going
to hand this over, and thank you.
Bailey: Thanks, Liz.
Fidelis: My name's Libris Fidelis. I just have a brief complaint. Um, as you know, there
are parking structures throughout the city. There are, uh, rental apartments that
are next to these structures. Uh, when people park their cars or even when they're
not even quite at their car, they could be a couple floors away and they push their
automatic, uh, buttons to unlock their cars, their headlights come on. These
headlights are often times coming on bright, and with these new halogen
headlights, they're much brighter than the older headlights were. Um, the way
that the parking structures are made, these headlights shine directly across the
street. Now I live at 320 S. Dubuque Street at Capitol House Apartments, and I
live on the fourth floor, and when people come in the parking structure, get in
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their cars, or even when they pull in and stop and shut their engines off, the lights
are on for a certain amount of time. These lights shine right directly into the
apartments, and when I'm using my computer, the only place I can put my
computer so that in the afternoon when the sun comes in I can see my screen is
facing the window, and when these lights come on at night, they're very bright,
and I would like to see a barrier of some sort that will prevent headlights from
cars shining across the street into these apartments, because they go directly into
the windows. Thank you.
Bailey: Thank you.
Sanders: Good evening. My name's Gary Sanders, and in one of those funny coincidences
about life, uh, Sunday the Des Moines Register, front page, had an article about
the FBI doing a surreptitious infiltration of a peace group in the city before the
Republic National Convention. And then the next day, I was substitute teaching
at City High School in Randy Brown's American Studies class, and we were
looking through this book. This is the particular book we were using, and we
happened to be in the chapter on Richard Nixon. And I just want to read you a
sentence. It says...it says to silence anti-war and civil rights protestors and other
critics, the Federal Bureau of Investigation under Richard Nixon and Attorney
General John Mitchell illegally tapped phones and broke into homes and offices,
searching for information to embarrass and discredit them. In addition,
undercover FBI agents joined the ranks of SDS and African-American militant
groups such as the Black Panthers. In some cases the agents deliberately set up
violent clashes between these groups and the police. I really, in my naive, even
though I knew the Bush administration had sunk pretty low did not realize that
they were authorizing spying, uh, domestic surveillance of groups, especially...I
know some of these folks here, and this is not a dangerous group. Uh, yes, they
were...they publicly stated in Meeting Room A of the Library that they wanted to
go up to the Republican National Convention and do some blockading of streets.
Illegal activity -yes. Violent activity - no. I would like, therefore, ask the City
Council to consider, as I wrote to you, a resolution stating an opinion on this sort
of activity by the federal government in this town, but I realized before that you
would need an opinion from the City Attorney. So I would, therefore, ask the
City and County Attorneys to read the entire 800-page document, um, unredacted
if possible, and to report to you and the city whether this group actually posed any
sort of threat. I would also like to know how much money the federal government
spent on this infiltration by two undercover agents, and I would like further that
the City and County Attorneys draw up a response, saying how should the City
and County react to federal law enforcement agencies in the particular of this
case, of spying on anti-war groups or other domestic groups, and in general how
to interact with the federal government and law enforcement. And my...my long-
term goal in maybe six months from now is that the City Council would pass a
resolution saying they do not approve of the federal government doing infiltration
of peaceful groups in this city. Thank you very much. (applause in background)
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Bailey: Would you please hold the applause! This is not a performance. It's a meeting.
Anybody else wishing to speak at public comment? Okay. We'll move on to
Planning and Zoning items.
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ITEM 4. PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS.
a) CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE REZONING APPROXIMATELY 23.25
ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED ALONG THE 400 - 500 BLOCKS
OF N. VAN BUREN STREET, THE 300 - 500 BLOCKS OF N.
GILBERT STREET, THE 300 - 700 BLOCKS OF N. LINN STREET,
THE 200 - 300 BLOCKS OF RONALDS STREET, THE 200 - 300
BLOCKS OF CHURCH STREET, THE 200 - 500 BLOCKS OF
FAIRCHILD STREET, AND 200 - 400 BLOCKS OF DAVENPORT
STREET FROM NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION RESIDENTIAL
(RNS-12) ZONE TO HISTORIC DISTRICT OVERLAY/
NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION RESIDENTIAL (OHD/RNS-12)
ZONE AND FROM MEDIUM DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY (RS-8)
ZONE TO HISTORIC DISTRICT OVERLAY/MEDIUM DENSITY
SINGLE FAMILY (OHD/RS-8) ZONE. (REZ09-00001) (SECOND
CONSIDERATION)
Wright: Move second consideration.
Bailey: Moved by Wright.
Correia: Second.
Bailey: Seconded by Correia. Discussion? Uh, this would be a good time to disclose any
ex-parte communications on this matter.
Hayek: None other than, last night at our work session, uh, I was asking Mike Wright
about getting support for looking at the historic preservation regulations, outside
of this, uh, particular vote, and he asked if I was, uh, consistent in my position
from the last meeting, and I said I was (mumbled)
Bailey: Okay, anyone else? Okay, any further discussion? I know that the public hearing
is closed. We had extensive, um, discussion last time. If there are new items to
introduce, we would be willing to hear those, but um, if nothing new need be said
(mumbled) Okay, roll call. Item...
Hayek: This is a good opportunity, Madame Mayor, if I can just inform the public that,
uh, at the last meeting I mentioned the idea of having the Council work with the
Historic Preservation Commission to examine our regulations, with a view
toward, uh, assessing whether they might be improved in terms of respecting the
realities of modern day living and environmental concerns, and energy efficiency
concerns of homeowners, and there is that interest, and last night at our Council
meeting we decided to take a look at that, and uh, that doesn't impact the vote
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tonight whatsoever, but I think, uh, we'll have an opportunity at times to go
through that exercise, and it's on our to-do list, and we will be tackling that.
Bailey: Okay. Item carries 6-1, O'Donnell voting in the negative.
Wilburn: Excuse me, Madame Mayor, if I may. Uh, did we get new correspondence from
the group, uh, the...the...public, did she hand us something new?
Bailey: Tonight?
Wilburn: Yeah. I thought she...
Wright: From the Neighborhood Association?
Wilburn: Oh, from the Animal...group?
Bailey: I mean, we haven't (several talking)
Voparil: Yes, from the animal group.
Wilburn: Okay, move to accept correspondence.
Voparil: Yes.
Bailey: Motion by Wilburn to accept correspondence.
Wright: Second.
Bailey: Seconded by Wright. All those in favor say aye.
Voparil: Also I have correspondence to accept under item 4.a., that we just voted on...that
you just voted on.
Bailey: Okay.
Hayek: Move to accept.
Wilburn: Second.
Bailey: Moved by Hayek, seconded by Wilburn. All those in favor say aye. Motion
carries.
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ITEM 4. PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS.
b) CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 14, ZONING,
ESTABLISHING DEFINITIONS AND A USE CLASSIFICATION
PROCEDURE FOR DRINKING ESTABLISHMENTS AND ALCOHOL
SALES-ORIENTED RETAIL USES AND ESTABLISHING MINIMUM
SPACING REQUIREMENTNS FOR DRINKING ESTABLISHMENTS
THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND FOR ALCOHOL-SALES ORIENTED
RETAIL USES IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS SERVICE (CB-2),
CENTRAL BUSINESS SUPPORT (CB-S), AND CENTRAL BUSINESS
(CB-10) ZONES. (SECOND CONSIDERATION)
Champion: Move second consideration.
Correia: Second.
Bailey: Moved by Champion, seconded by Correia. Discussion? Melvin, this is the time
that you.. .
Dvorsky: Thank you. I'd like to recommend to the City Council that a moratorium be put
on any more liquor licenses and to any more bar establishments in this town. I
think that they are way too many, and with all the fights and, uh, problems we've
had within the last six months, uh, something has to be done, cause we've got to
consider the safety of our, uh, elderly and senior citizens also. Thank you very
much for your cooperation.
Bailey: Thank you, Melvin.
O'Donnell: Thanks, Melvin.
Bailey: Further discussion?
Braverman: Uh, I'm Jody Braverman from Iowa City. Uh, I believe that the proposed, uh,
zoning change with regards to drinking establishments is too restrictive. iJh, I've
spoken with each of the City Council Members individually or left voicemail
messages for the City Council Members individually to talk about this. I think
that the plan to limit by distance the number of facilities that provide liquor by the
drink, based on hours of operation in any sector of the city would be better if it
was changed to percentage of sales. We've initiated discussions, uh, ourselves as
a real estate developer and uh, and a contractor, uh, with the operator of a couple
of ethnic restaurants in Johnson County to open a third restaurant in the Old
Towne Village area, uh, we have now also talked with somebody who would be
opening a potential bar in that area, uh, yet the proposed zoning change may
preclude the openings of these types of establishments because of restrictions
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based on hours of operation, and their proximity to Blackstone, which is an
upscale, contemporary, fine dining site. Neither our restaurant prospect, nor
Blackstone, would have the majority of its sales ion alcohol, yet under the
proposed zoning, only one of the two restaurants could have a liquor license and
operate past midnight. Um, the root problem with drinking is downtown Iowa
City. And that's where your efforts should be, uh, should be, uh, concentrated.
While we applaud the sentiment, and certainly encourage the City Council to do
everything in its power to deal with both the underage drinking problem and the
overall binge drinking culture, including without limitation, raising the bar
admission age to 21, I don't believe that limiting the proximity of restaurants with
liquor licenses will do anything other than push decent restaurant operators who
wish to enhance a patron's dining experience with the availability of adult
beverages. The system...the systemic problem is downtown, and you should
focus your efforts in that area. Uh, the solution must be downtown. The problem
is not the newer sections of town. The problem is not the outlying sections of
town. Certainly there is an occasional rogue operator elsewhere that must be dealt
with on an individual basis, and you certainly have the power to do that by
the...with the appropriate authorities. Um, we shouldn't be a community that
rolls up, um, the sidewalks at midnight, uh, we're a cosmopolitan city of letters
and literature and culture, and quaffing an adult beverage beyond bewitching hour
with a friend in a comfortable neighborhood commercial setting, uh, should be
acceptable. Um, I understand that there was, uh, in the, uh...Planning and Zoning
Commission there was a vote to amend to 250 feet instead of the 500 feet, which
is in the current regulation. That vote failed on a 3 to 3 vote, so there's certainly
considerable sentiment in that regard, as well. Thank you.
Bailey: Thank you. Any further discussion?
Fidelis: I'm Libris Fidelis. I live downtown. Uh, just like to~ make the comment that I
think, you know, it's been quite adequately discussed in the last, uh, Council
meeting, and also the Planning and Zoning Commission, uh, the pros and the
cons. I'd just like to say that I think that the present consideration is more than
generous. I was actually disappointed that the 1,000-foot separation was not
approved. But when you stop and think about another issue, and that's parking, if
you have a restaurant that, um, attracts patrons who wish to imbibe alcoholic
beverages, that is an attraction which brings a parking problem. That brings more
people to the downtown area. So I think that the present consideration is more
than generous.
Bailey: Thank you. Further discussion? Among Council?
Correia: What's compelling to me is the research that was shared with us from University
Student Health, or Health Iowa group, um, that looked at just the block level, um,
increasing the density of alcohol permits or whatever terminology is, um,
increases crime and other negative neighborhood-based impacts, um, and I think
that it's more fair to have it citywide. It...the...have, don't have to worry about
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down the road having to deal with a potential, um, new area where there...where
we're having issues related to alcohol density. So I don't have any, um, problems
supporting the ordinance as it...as it's presented.
O'Donnell: I didn't support this last time, and I'm not going to support it tonight. I think it
goes beyond what we were trying to accomplish. Um, I think it's good for new
development, but we certainly can't compare Blackstone's to a downtown bar that
holds 2,000 kids. We just can't do that. I think we missed an opportunity to, um,
open more fine restaurants that...where the idea isn't to go in and drink all night.
So I...I will continue not to support this.
Wright: Well, I will continue to support this, because fine restaurants can open, if they
don't make it the opportunity to drink all night. It's just a matter of having them
close up at midnight (mumbled) that shouldn't inhibit a lot of restaurants from
coming in. I think what this will do is prohibit, uh, higher concentration of bars
popping up elsewhere in town. I think there's actually a fairly realistic possibility
that that could happen, uh, we certainly don't want that to happen, and uh,
wherever it happens to the other areas of town are much closer to residential
sections than the downtown block is, and I think we need to be cognizant of that,
um, I think this 500-foot, uh, distance regulation is pretty reasonable.
Champion: The restaurants were a concern of mine, but I talked to several restaurant owners
and they didn't see a problem with it, because they said 99% of restaurants are not
open after midnight, and they wouldn't hesitate to open a restaurant, and I think
open it next to a bar. So I'm going to support this.
Wilburn: Couple points that I would like to add, um, I was one when the multiple times that
the Council has considered a 21-ordinance, this is related to the issue downtown,
that um, I was less willing to consider some type of zoning approach. Uh, but um,
the, uh, Councils past have not been willing to support a 21-ordinance, in addition
to, uh, some supports in the community. Um, (mumbled) the establishments wish
to come forward and change their mind related to 21-ordinance, then I would be
willing to reconsider, um, a zoning approach. Um, but until that happens, I'm
willing to go forward with this. I think the information related to, um, the overall
number of, uh, liquor licenses in the community having an impact on the broad
community that was presented by, um, the Health Iowa group, uh, is compelling,
and I think we have some, um, we have some experience in the County, uh, in
North Liberty in particular, related to an establishment not typically where
students are that had some issues a few years ago, in terms of the noise that...that,
uh, you know, a...a bar, bar/restaurant so near a, uh, a neighborhood, um, a
neighborhood can raise some issues in terms of, uh, the noise and the...the
volume, and um, the distance factor is exactly that, trying to not have, uh, you
know, compact areas with multiple...multiple liquor license establishments, um,
so since it is out near a...a residential, that would be in certain areas of the
community, that, uh, you'd want to try and prohibit that, and, um, you know, in
some of the development areas, I mean, I think you need to go ahead and get out
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and measure the distance to see whether you...you can or cannot, uh, but those
are the reasons that I'm willing to support it.
Champion: I just want to correct something that a couple of people have said. We're not
limiting liquor licenses.
Bailey: Right.
Champion: We're limiting the number of liquor licenses to bars that are open from 12 to 2.
Wright: Establishments (mumbled)
Champion: Okay, thank you!
Hayek: I, uh, originally, and still uh, support this as it relates to the Central Business
District. That is, uh, because it is, there's the public health side of it, were
presented to us in the economic development concerns that we discussed, support
that kind of move downtown. But as it relates to the rest of the city, I think this is
a solution in search of a problem. I think it goes well beyond what this ordinance
is designed to, uh, address, and I can see no compelling reason to discourage
restaurant establishments, whose operation would be covered by this ordinance, in
neighborhoods that we simply do not have these issues in, and I can understand
the prospective approach to this, that you want to keep this from, uh, moving into
other areas, but the scope of this is so broad. You're taking this ordinance into
neighborhoods and parts of town where it's not perceived, uh, there being
anywhere close to the kind of issues that we see downtown. And I have concerns
about it discouraging economic development in places like, uh, the Old Towne
Village and...and similar places like that, so I...I won't support it for those
reasons.
Wilburn/ (several talking) Excuse me. I think I remember, uh...if you'll allow me. I think
I remember when we had, um, the request for the outdoor service area, um, in this
bar, and a couple other bars that are in neighborhoods, we did have some
correspondence from some of the neighbors concerned about that, so again, I
don't think, and also with the experience North Liberty has, I don't think it's, um,
it's a, um, reaching foreign concept that...that the concern about noise and
potential, um, alcohol-related issues...is...I don't think it's a stretch to...
Bailey: No, I don't either. Um, I spent last weekend in that neighborhood, and...and any
kind of concentration, I mean, that would be two establishments opening
and... and, or closing after midnight. I think could, um, cause some problems in
the neighborhood, given the proximity to residential. So I think that this makes
sense. Now a restaurant, I mean, this will cause economic development problems
if we frame it this way. Please, give me some restaurants that are open till
midnight in Iowa City, please! I mean, I think that that's right. 99% of them are
not. It would be great to be able to eat at 11:30 at night, but so there's an
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opportunity. There's the gap! Let's address that, and then when we have a
proliferation of restaurants that are serving till midnight and patrons who want to
stay there, after midnight, throughout the city, then let's talk about revising this
ordinance. I mean, Jody's right. We have some systemic problems in Iowa City
about drinking, and the thing about systemic problems is they rarely confine
themselves to a specific geography. Yes, we see it mostly downtown, but if we
don't address this issue, there are going to be three or four Councils down the road
who will have to be addressing issues of concentration in bars in other
neighborhoods and other challenges. So let's approach it now. I don't think it's
too stringent. And I think it's actually foresightful, um, addressing what we've
seen happen. We know what can happen. We know that our downtown is going
south of Burlington. Let's address these issues now. Let's have some restaurants
that will stay open till...till midnight, and...and go from there. I think that this
provides the balance and I'll continue to support it. Any further discussion?
Okay, roll call. Item carries 5 to 2; um, Hayek and O'Donnell voting in the
negative.
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ITEM 6.
Bailey:
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ASSESSING A $300.00 CIVIL PENALTY AGAINST HEAD HUNTERS
GLASS, INC., PURSUANT TO IOWA CODE SECTION 453A.22(2) (2009)
A) CONDUCT HEARING
This is a hearing (bangs gavel). The hearing is open.
Chappell: Good evening, I'm Andy Chappell from the Johnson County Attorney's office.
On February 13, an employee of Head Hunters Glass, uh, provided, not sold in
this case, but provided tobacco to a minor, um, that...that action is a violation of
453A.2 and as this is the first violation by that business, um, I would recommend
that they be assessed a $300 civil penalty, pursuant to 453A.22.
Bailey: Is there anyone from the establishment here wishing to speak at the hearing?
Okay, hearing is closed. (bangs gavel)
B) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION
Wilburn: Move adoption of the resolution.
Bailey: Moved by Wilburn.
Wright: Second.
Bailey: Seconded by Wright. Discussion? Roll call...oh!
Hayek: No, I mean, this...there's no, uh (both talking) strict liability, for lack of a better
word. If you sold it, there's no discretion as to whether it was...
Dilkes: It states once...once there is a conviction it's pretty much automatic shall is the
language that's used.
Hayek: Got it.
Bailey: Thank you, Andy.
Hayek: Thanks, Andy.
Bailey: Roll call. Item carries 7-0.
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ITEM 10. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE IOWA CITY PARKS
RECREATION AND TRAILS MASTER PLAN FINAL REPROT AND
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY.
Wilburn: Move adoption of the resolution.
Bailey: Moved by Wilburn.
Champion: Second.
Bailey: Seconded by Champion. Discussion?
Hayek: This is an ambitious plan. It's comprehensive, thoughtful, uh, the product of quite
a lot of input from both Commission, staff, and citizenry. I think, you know, it's
tempered by the financial realities we face, but it gives us something to work
toward, and uh, I think it's a great guide...set of guideposts for us.
Bailey: it's very visionary.
Wright: I'd like to thank the Commission and the folks from the public who did supply
their input. This really turned out to be a lot of work.
Bailey: LTh-huh, the Commission worked very hard on that, and I think with the
implementation they will continue to work hard. Any further discussion? Roll
call. (both talking)
Voparil: Motion to accept correspondence.
Wilburn: So moved.
Hayek: Second.
Bailey: Moved by Wilburn, seconded by Hayek, um, all those in favor say aye. Motion
carries.
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ITEM 12. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE HAZARD
MITIGATION GRANT PROGRAM (HMGP) ADMINISTRATIVE PLAN.
Wilburn: Move adoption of the resolution.
Bailey: Moved by Wilburn.
Wright: Second.
Bailey: Seconded by Wright. Discussion? Roll call. Oh, discussion, sorry! Yes, please.
Daily: Um...
Bailey: Just state your name.
Daily: My name is Morris Daily, and I have been, um, a member of the University and
Iowa City community for about 25 years, and I have, um, corresponded with a
few of you regarding my request to amend the, uh, HMGP demolition, uh,
guidelines to permit us to stay in our house for an extra period of time. Excuse
me, I'm just getting a cold I'm afraid. Um, as we...I guess I'm not going to go
into detail about why we want to stay, other than the fact that we've been there for
a long time. We've put immense amounts of money into the house. We've also
just repaired it, and really we just love living there. That's the bottom line. Um,
as we heard yesterday, HMGP guidelines do permit some flexibility up to this
maximum three-year limit. Um, and at the present time, based on my discussions
with, uh, meetings with various staff members and what I heard last night, I...I
don't see any really good reason why the City should not honor our wishes, and at
least try to make this plan work. Now, if in the end there's some reason that it
really can't pan out, well so be it, but um, I don't see this. real effort to make it
work for us yet. So let me...let me just go through a couple of these issues and
I'll try to be very brief here. Um, one of the issues raised, uh, especially when I
was talking to some of the City staff a month ago was that delaying the
demolition of one house might increase the cost to the City, um, well I know now
that in fact demolition contractors have not even been asked if there's any
additional cost to that, so we...there's no data to even suggest that that might be
true. Um, and in fact, if the City, uh, requires this of a contractor, they may well
just say that's part of the deal and it won't cost anymore. We just don't have any
data to suggest otherwise. Um, furthermore, the demolition costs are reimbursed
to the City by FEMA up to $20,000 so uh, most likely, uh, unless there was some
massive increase in costs, which doesn't really make any sense, uh, the cost to the
City then should be zero. And the third issue regarding the, uh, fiscal part of this
is that, um, by keeping my house on the tax rolls for an extra two and a half to
three years, the City, uh, would, or at least we would pay, I'm not sure how much
the City gets, but we would pay between $10,000 and $15,000 additional taxes,
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and I know the City needs properties on the tax rolls. If you demolish the house
and take possession of the property, that tax income obviously goes away, and
that amount of money for my house, and in addition to the one other resident on
Normandy who's apparently in the same position that I am, uh, you know, that's a
significant amount of money, which should defray any additional costs, if there
are any such costs, um, at all. An additional important issue was raised last night
by the Mayor, one that I think, um, obviously all of us have to, um, take very
seriously is that of safety, and so I want to just address that issue very quickly
here. Um, the incremental risk to the City of allowing one or even two additional
houses to remain for a short period of time, the incremental risk is...has got to be
as close to zero as you can get, um, there will still be over a hundred houses in
that area, many of which are in the 100-year flood plain, uh, and at least a half
dozen or more of which will be along the river, as our house is, uh, so I think that
risk is minimal. Secondly, the way the floods happen in Iowa City, we do not,
we're simply not susceptible to the severe flash floods that cause fatalities in most
other areas. We have the dam upstream that doesn't protect us indefinitely from
floods, but I...in the two floods we've had in the last 50 or 60 years, there has not
been any question about having tons of time to get out of your home. Uh, even
after the mandatory evacuation last year, my wife and I could easily walk back
and forth to our house for several days. I mean, it's just not the kind of flood
that...that is a risk for us, and I believe not a risk for, um, for first responders for
the City either. Um...I think any risk, first of all, I'm willing to assume any risks
from our point of view, um, and I think we can minimize any risk to me and what
infinitesimal risk there is to, um, City emergency staff, um, by simply evacuating
the house when a flood is imminent, uh, before the water gets to a level which
even come close to being dangerous, and I think we would be actually not only
willing but would do that regardless, having seen the power of last year's flood.
Um...so, in summary, there's two of us, I believe, that want to stay on Normandy
Drive. I think we have, um, pretty good reason for wanting to do that. Me
primarily cause I want not to move before I retire in a few years, and plus the fact
that I just really love that house. Um, and I think it really wouldn't make any
difference to the City. There's no additional risks. I don't think there will be any
additional costs, and so I would make the plea to the City that it's reasonable for
us to, um, ask the City to at least to try to make this work.
Bailey: Mr. Daily, at last night's meeting a majority of Council did direct staff to look for,
uh, an extension period. Obviously it's going to have to be less than the three
years that you requested, so they are working on that and I don't know where they
are on that, but they're certainly looking into that. So, um...
Daily: So perhaps this will have been, or will be addressed by them.
Bailey: (several talking) we have directed them to address that.
Daily: Well, I just wanted to make sure that my comments were on the record, and that
everybody heard them.
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Bailey: Yes....I...I think that that was one of the motivating factors in last night's
discussion, and...and directing staff to do that.
Daily: All right. Well, I want to thank you for your attention and I...so that I'm not
totally sound like a misanthrope here, I'd...I want to state that, um, how much I
and the rest of us appreciate what the Council and the Mayor, and uh, everybody's
done for the neighborhood down there. It's, uh, a major bright shining light in a
period that was less than desirable.
Bailey: Thank you, and then David and Steve will be able to give you that deadline once
it's established. Thank you. Okay, further discussion? Okay, roll call. Item
carries 7-0.
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ITEM 16. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT AND
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO
ATTEST A CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION. OF THE BURLINGTON
STREET PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE REHABILITATION PROJECT.
Bailey: Um, we have some staff here to talk to this, so I won't read the details.
Helling: You do have a handout.
Bailey: Yes. Yes. Um, I need this...
Wilburn: Move adoption of the resolution.
Hayek: Second.
Bailey: Thank you. Moved by Wilburn, seconded by Hayek. Discussion?
Gannon: My name's Denny Gannon. I'm the Assistant City Engineer. Um, we took bids
today. It was actually a rebid from two weeks ago, and um, this time we got three
bids, and if you look at the summary there, the three bids are all higher than the
engineer's estimate, but the three bids are all, uh, pretty close together. And we
are recommending the, uh, the award for the base bid, uh, engineering, Public
Works, uh, would actually have gone with the base bid plus the .alternate bid,
except, um, in the...uh, in, let me, um, summarize that the...the, uh, alternate bid
includes a new railing. That's the difference between the base bid and the
alternate. The, uh, the DOT would like the base bid, plus the alternate bid, and I
believe the University of Iowa would too, and all three of the, the University of
Iowa, the City, and the DOT are players in this, um, the University of Iowa's
budget right now is only for the base bid. They didn't have enough time today to,
um, talk about the extra costs that would be involved. Um, so what we could do
is, uh, go ahead and approve the contract tonight with the base bid, and we can
have conversations with the, uh, contractor, and we could, uh, do a, uh, a change
order or an extra work order to include the railing. That would be in the near
future. And would be for that same price as the, as shown on...on your summary
there.
Bailey: So the same price as the alternate...the base plus alternate.
Gannon: Base bid plus the alternate.
Bailey: The $802,000.
Gannon: Right.
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Yeah. Any questions?
Given that the University hasn't had a chance to (both talking) apparently discuss
this (mumbled) I think that makes a lot of sense.
So will this come back to us, um...
Gannon: No, we wouldn't have to do that. You go ahead and approve the base bid and then
we would do that, uh, internally with a...a change order. It would have to be
approved by the contractor and of course the University of Iowa, and uh, the DOT
would have to agree.
Helling: This would be a substantial change. The only, we would make sure the Council
knew if that happens, but (both talking) by a change (several talking)
Gannon: That's why I'm bringing it up now.
Dilkes: We might want to talk about how (several talking)
Bailey: ...authority to do that, or are we simply voting on the base bid? I want to make
sure people know what they're voting on.
Dilkes: You're asking them to award on the base bid.
Gannon: Just the base bid.
Dilkes: Um, but the alternate bid is open for 30 days beyond the receipt of the bids,
correct?
Champion: What's the difference there?
Gannon: We would have to do this fairly quickly because the...the alternate bid (several
talking) substantial amount is handrail, and uh, to get this project done in the
summer, they're going to have to have it, uh, made, uh, by a supplier, so we would
have to decide on this fairly quickly.
Dilkes: No, I'm just...I'm asking if we...if we needed to have the Council award the
alternate as well as opposed to doing it by change order we would have to...we
could do that at the next Council meeting.
Gannon: Um...
Dilkes: We'll have to talk about that. Um, so right now you need to award the base
(several talking)
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Helling: Yeah, actually if time is of the essence, we actually have a meeting next week too
that we could (several talking)
Champion: I thought we authorized the City Manager up to $25,000 or something like that.
Bailey: $50,000 (several talking)
Dilkes: No, that's a different issue. That's a consultant services' issue. This is a bid issue,
and my...my only concern is with the size of the change order and whether we
need to do that by award as opposed to change order, but I think we can figure
that out before next week, and...and if we think we need to have you award the
alternate, we'll just do that then.
Bailey: This is just a point of information, cause there's nothing we can do. Our...our
bids, and bids across the state, have been coming in very well. This is...is not
what I would consider very good situation and we had to rebid it. What...do you
have any speculation as to what happened or just the nature of this type of
project?
Gannon: I think it's a different kind of a project, plus um, the bidding, the construction
time, the window, is summer. We have to have that done before the...fall for
school and also for football games and...
Bailey: So the time constraints probably, okay. I understand.
Dilkes: Can I just ask one...Denny, is there any, um, would there be any problem with
deferring the award until next Tuesday, and... and awarding, if we want to do the
alternate at that time, just awarding the base...
Gannon: It does delay things, because we want to get started June 1st, which would be, um,
like two weeks from yesterday.
Dilkes: Okay. Let's go ahead and award the base bid then.
Bailey: Okay. Any further discussion or questions for Denny? Thank you for being here.
That was helpful. Okay, roll call. Okay, item carries 7-0.
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ITEM 17. COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS.
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Bailey: Um, we have quite a few openings. Uh, Airport Zoning Board of Adjustment,
one vacancy to fill an unexpired term, two males and zero females currently
serve. Airport Zoning Board of Adjustment again, one vacancy to fill afive-year
term. Airport Zoning Commission, one vacancy to fill asix-year term, 3 males
and zero females currently serve. Board of Appeals, one vacancy to fill a five
year term, um, and one for mechanical professional, five males and one female
currently serve. The Human Rights Commission, one vacancy to fill an unexpired
term, four males and four females currently serve. The Youth Advisory
Commission, one vacancy to fill a...two-year term, um, we're looking for a
person from Tate High, three males and three females currently serve. And those
must be received, those applications...must be received...I don't have a deadline.
Um, by 5:00 P.M. Wednesday June 10th.
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ITEM 18. ANNOUNCEMENT OF VACANCIES.
Bailey: Previously announced Board of Adjustment, um, two males and two females
currently serve. New vacancies, Historic Preservation...
Voparil: Excuse me, Madame Mayor. Um, weren't we going to appoint for Human
Rights? We did have some applicants for Human Rights. Excuse me.
Bailey: Oh! (several talking) Yes...we were. Let me just read through the...the
vacancies and we'll do that next.
Voparil: Okay.
Bailey: Okay. Um, new vacancies, Historic Preservation Commission, one vacancy to fill
a long...for the Longfellow representative, four males and five females currently
serve. Library Board of Trustees, three vacancies to fill six-year terms, four
males and two females currently serve, and a new vacancy, the
Telecommunication Commission, one vacancy to fill an unexpired term, three
males and one female currently serve. These applications must be received by
5:00 P.M. Wednesday June 24, 2009. And at last night's meeting, um,
we...informally agreed to appoint Kelly Fleming to the Human Rights
Commission, and I would entertain a motion to that effect.
Correia: Move to appoint Kelli Fleming.
Wilburn: Second.
Bailey: Moved by Correia, seconded by Wilburn. Discussion? All those in favor...
Wilburn: I was going to say, a lot of good applications for, uh, for this particular
commission. Typically get a lot, so...
Bailey: And if those applicants are interested in serving on other commissions, um,
that's...that's, um, certainly there's availability. All those in favor of appointing
Kelli Fleming to the Human Rights Commission say aye. Motion carries. All
right.
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ITEM 20. CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION.
Bailey: Um, let's start with Amy tonight.
Correia: Nothing.
Bailey: Okay. Matt?
Hayek: Nothing.
Bailey: Ross?
Wilburn: Um, nothing.
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Bailey: Really? Okay.
O'Donnell: Just a quick one - Dale, I was driving on Scott Boulevard, and there's some really
encrusted potholes developing on that road. You might want to take a look at
that.
Helling: We'll do that!
O'Donnell: All right! (laughter) You don't have to fix 'em yourself though!
Bailey: Connie?
Champion: Nothing.
Bailey: Wow, um, last time we went very late, and I...I wanted to talk a little bit about the
pass...we talked about passenger rail last night, and I had the opportunity to ride
the train, um, from our facility to the Quad Cities, into Moline, and I...I've got to
say, I really look forward to the opportunity for everyone to do that. It was great
ride, and it's very interesting to see communities along the rails from that
perspective. It was, um, many of us are from Iowa and very familiar with the
area, but we had... sometimes had a hard time knowing what town we were in
because you don't usually see them from that perspective. So, um, and we...we
went at the rail speed. I think it was around 45 miles per hour, and still it didn't
take us that long. So I can't wait until we have 79 miles per hour on those rails.
So, I appreciated Rebecca's presentation, and I appreciate the Chamber's advocacy
for the Chicago Flyer.
Weegand: (unable to hear from audience) My name's Matthew Sullivan Weegand, um, I
grew up in Iowa City. Have a degree in Cultural Anthropology with honors from
the University of California at Santa Cruz. I've been working in the restaurant
industry for six years since I came back from college, and I would very much like
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to open up a stand down, uh, in the Ped Mall. I know that there's only eight spots
available right now, and uh, I was hoping that you could consider making a new
spot or two available, uh, because I was told by the City Manager, or Assistant
Manager (mumbled) that, uh, the...decision to give it to someone is based on
seniority and cart design and items on the menu. Well, we have great ideas for
the design and great ideas for the menu. So, uh, we were just hoping, uh, we don't
have seniority is what we don't have, so...um, I was hoping that somewhere down
the line you could consider opening that up, uh, for business. Thank you.
Bailey: Okay.
Champion: We can talk about that.
Bailey: Yeah, we can certainly talk about that. Thank you.
Weegand: Thanks a lot.
Bailey: Thank you. Welcome to Iowa City. Okay.
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