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June 1, 2009 City Council Work Session 6:30 P.M.
Council Present: Bailey, Champion, Correia (arrived at 7:00 P.M.), Hayek, O'Donnell,
Wilburn, Wright
Staff: Helling, Dilkes, Karr, Davidson, Hargadine, Rackis, Rummel, Severson,
Hightshoe, Boothroy, Dulek, Yapp, O'Brien
Others Present: UISG, Shipley (arrived at 6:50 P.M.)
Council Appointments (Item #18):
Bailey/ I think we'll get started. Amy's going to be late. She called me, but I told her that we
would, uh, get started on some other items before she got here, cause I know she's
interested in the Housing items. I thought we might start with Council appointments, and
this is for the SEATS position, and Mike is willing to continue serving and we can fill the
position in January, or if somebody else would like to, um, sit on...when does the
Advisory Committee meet?
O'Donnell/ Um...every other month. It's really good, uh, it's a good meeting. If somebody's
interested, I'd be...glad to step down. (unable to hear response) Huh?
Bailey/ ...of interest?
O'Donnell/ We really put out all the fires, uh, we once had, and uh, so it's really a pretty easy
meeting. I don't mind doing it, but.. .
Bailey/ All right, if you're willing to continue to serve and we'll just fill it in January, that would
be great. Okay, thank you. Okay, let's um, then skip down to schedule of pending
discussion items, and Dale, you had some specific questions about this.
Schedule of Pending Discussion Items (ref. IP4):
Helling/ Yes. Let me find it here.
Bailey/ This is IP4.
Helling/ Um, well yeah, I would note that your, uh, meeting with the Airport Commission that
was scheduled for the 15th is back to the 29th, um, the downtown building sprinkling
policy, after your discussion with, uh, of the A2 occupancy, and with the memorandum
that you received from, uh, Housing Inspection Services in the packet, um, was just
wondering if that's still something that you could, or should, be scheduled for a, uh, a
work session, or whether you got your questions answered, Matt (mumbled)
Champion/ I don't think we need that (mumbled)
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Hayek/ Well, we need...I shot you guys an email last (mumbled) I...so we, I still want to just
have a conversation, one on one or (both talking)
Helling/ ...working on some...
Hayek/ ...so we can wait on that. I mean, I don't care if you guys want to take it off the pending
discussion list until I request to put it back on and try to get three votes. That's fine with
me.
Helling/ Well, I mean, I just raised it because we did provide that information and...
Bailey/ Yeah, why don't you follow up, and then if you have further...if you feel like you want
to discuss it further with Council, we can bring it up again. I don't think you'll lose sight
of it.
Hayek/ No. That's fine (both talking) so take it off.
Bailey/ Yeah.
Helling/ And then, the meeting with Historic Preservation Commission, you received some
information in your packet. Also, I think there's indication in there that they are working
on revising the guidelines, and those should be finished late summer or early fall, so I
thought you might want to have your discussion later rather than sooner because it may
be helpful to have those revised guidelines, and you can talk about them.
Wright/ I think that makes sense.
Hayek/ Do you know if their process for updating their guidelines involves much input from
community? Will there be an opportunity at that level, public input?
Davidson/ I think there's a hearing, but I'll double check, Matt, but I think there's (mumbled)
Hayek/ Okay.
Karr/ Jeff, do you have your mic on?
Davidson/ I have it right here. Is it just not up high enough? (noise on mic)
Karr/ Thank you.
Hayek/ Cause I know of some community members who would like to have input, and that
would be the appropriate time for that.
Davidson/ I'll double check. Is that better, Marian?
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Karr/ Yes, thank you.
Davidson/ I'll, uh, double check with Christina. I'm almost sure...I've never heard of us going
through a process like that, and not taking public input.
Hayek/ I would assume.
Davidson/ I'll find out.
Hayek/ Okay.
Bailey/ (mumbled) Okay. Um...well, let's just jump back to the top then and go through
Planning and Zoning items.
Planning and Zoning Items:
a) CONSIDER A MOTION SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR JUNE 16 ON AN
ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 14, ZONING, ADDING A BUSINESS
SERVICES LAND USE CATEGORY, MODIFYING THE STREET WIDTH
STANDARDS FOR INSTITUTIONAL USES IN RESIDENTIAL ZONES, AND
CLARIFYING APPLICABLE REGULATIONS TO AND ALLOW MINOR
MODIFICATIONS TO SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THE PUBLIC
ZONE.
c) CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 14, ZONING,
ESTABLISHING DEFINITIONS AND A USE CLASSIFICATION PROCEDURE
FOR DRDINKING ESTABLISHMENTS AND ALCOHOL SALES-ORIENTED
RETAIL USES AND ESTABLISHING MINIMUM SPACING REQUIREMENTS
FOR DRINKING ESTABLISHMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND FOR
ALCOHOL-SALES ORIENTED RETAIL USES IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS
SERVICE (CB-2), CENTRAL BUSINESS SUPPORT (CB-5), AND CENTRAL
BUSINESS (CB-10) ZONES.
d) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL
PLAT OF SCOTT -SIX INDUSTRIAL PARK, 2ND ADDITIN, A
RESUBDIVISION OF A PART OF LOT 36, SCOTT-SIX INDUSTRIAL PARK,
IOWA CITY, IOWA.
Davidson/ (both talking) uh, for Planning and Zoning items we have items a, c, and d on your
agenda this evening. ~.Jh, item a is to set a hearing on some, basically just some clean-up
items that, uh, we have found a little problematic and since the new zoning code was
adopted, and we...we saved up several of these and put them through Planning and
Zoning and we'll have them all for you at the next meeting (mumbled) clean-up, tidy up
kind of items (mumbled) smoothly in the future. Uh, item b then is pass and adopt on the
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Northside Neighborhood Historic District. Any comments or questions? (several
commenting)
Bailey/ We can't even talk about that one. (several talking) Yeah.
Davidson/ And then item c, which we can talk about if you'd like. It's pass and adopt on the
liquor establishment changes for the zoning ordinance. Any.. .
O'Donnell/ It's all been said.
Bailey/ No, I don't think so.
Davidson/ You don't have anything from staff.
Bailey/ Okay. I don't think...
Davidson/ Okay. Let's move on them to item d. Item d is a, uh, preliminary final plat. (noise on
mic) Um, it's Scott-Six industrial subdivision. It is to establish atwo-lot subdivision.
Uh, the existing zoning is, uh, industrial I-1 and there is both developed and, uh,
undeveloped property as part of this subdivision. Uh, I think you're probably familiar
that most of the property is developed, and that's why we are expanding the...to the east
with our new subdivision. iJh, this is the property that we're talking about, uh, you can
see it's there, just north of 420th Street, uh, has access from Independence Road. Uh, this
was originally a single lot that was split...uh, right there, uh, and this is the lot up here
that is proposed to be further subdivided. This was the remaining part...of the original
lot, and it is currently undeveloped. There is a warehouse on, uh, this lot. It is now
proposed to subdivide this parcel into lot 1, which is here, and lot 2, which would be here
at the back of the property. And, certainly those of you who have...that we've reviewed a
lot of residential subdivisions, you know, one of the first questions you might ask, wasn't
this kind of an odd sort of a flag lot kind of a deal. We do allow these types of lots,
particularly in industrial subdivisions, uh, where we don't have the concerns that we do in
residential subdivisions about somebody basically living behind somebody else,
and...and some of the issues that...I mean, we do have lots like this -residential lots in
Iowa City -but they've proven to create some problems, and so we don't typically allow
them, uh, any more, but in commercial and industrial subdivisions, uh, CI-1 type zoning,
uh, we would allow this configuration. There is an access easement then, a sewer and
access easement, right here, uh, and...and the property would then have, uh, access to
Independence Road. iJh, there was a...requirement, uh, that there be a signage...signage
with the, uh, street address here so that the fire department could (mumbled) property if
need be. Um, there is also, along the back here, a 35-foot wide...this is 55-foot wide
access easement. There's a 35-foot wide, uh, storm water easement back here which
extends to the property line, uh, and could be further extended to the east, but it does
include this property, and would allow storm water to be drained, uh, through that
easement. And some existing storm water basins. Uh, the couple of...the deficiencies
and discrepancies that were listed there have been resolved. And so the recommendation
here is, uh, to, uh, approve the proposed, uh, preliminary plat and final plat, and by the
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way, just to, in case you're interested, but this lot here is approximately two acres. This is
the...lot 1 here would be slightly under two acres, and this would be approximately an
acre lot, if you approve (mumbled). Any questions?
Hayek/ What is east of the applicant's lot?
Davidson/ Our subdivision.
Hayek/ That's...that's (both talking)
Davidson/ I take that back. The, the, uh, there is a...oh, I'm sorry. Here, Matt. This is a parcel
owned by a private property owner, and then our, this parcel, this parcel, and this parcel
is our new industrial subdivision. And this parcel here is owned by the Pribble's and
we're coordinating with them in terms of access and some things like that.
Hayek/ So they...they're holding that piece.
Davidson/ They're holding this right now, but eventually is intended for industrial development.
Hayek/ Okay.
Bailey/ Any other questions? Okay.
Davidson/ Oh, one more question, Madame Mayor. Um, I'm unable to attend the meeting
tomorrow night. I will be happy to have somebody from Urban Planning attend, if you
anticipate questions with any of these items. I just thought I'd ask (mumbled)
O'Donnell/ I don't see any questions.
Bailey/ I don't imagine that...
Davidson/ ...pretty straightforward.
Bailey/ Ross?
Davidson/ And of course the item a, we won't really discuss until after you...
Bailey/ Item a is the public hearing, pass and adopt, pass and adopt. (both talking) Yeah, and
seems like this one (mumbled) questions on. You good on this one?
O'Donnell/ I think so.
Bailey/ I think we're set.
Davidson/ Thank you. If...if for some reason you think of some stuff, you would like to have
somebody present, just let me know tomorrow.
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Bailey/ Okay. Thanks.
Davidson/ Thanks.
Bailey/ Okay. Um...oh, Amy specifically wanted to talk about the Housing items. Let's jump to
agenda items...and info packet discussion. Just...
Agenda Items and Information Packet Discussion (5/21 & 5/28):
ITEM 3. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED OR AMENDED.
g. Correspondence.
1. Acting Traffic Engineering Planner -Install bike lanes on Market
Street and Jefferson Street between Governor Street and Gilbert
Street
Wright/ Um, I did have a question about the 3.g.1., something about the bike lanes. Just kind
of...configuration.
Bailey/ Okay. John?
Wright/ And it's something I may have missed going through here, but I didn't...I don't think so.
Is the intent to have on, uh, Market and...Jefferson bike lanes on both sides or on one
side only?
Yapp/ Just one...just one side of the Market and Jefferson. And it'll be on the left side, as they
were, uh, before they were removed in the 1990s.
Wright/ Okay.
Yapp/ Uh, and that would be only, the bike lanes would be designated east of Gilbert Street, then
west of Gilbert Street where we have, uh, a lot more on-street parking, commercial
vehicle loading and unloading, uh, we would go with the shared-lane arrow, uh, which
has proven to be quite popular around the country.
Wright/ I think it's a good idea for both of those. My other question then kind of dovetails in
there. If somebody is heading west on Market for example, they're in the bike lane, um,
let me try that again. They're heading west on Market. They're going to be turning right,
uh, is there any legal impediment to their traveling in the traffic lane, not the bike lane?
Yapp/ No there is not.
Wright/ Okay.
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Yapp/ And actually...the way we will stripe them will be a little more modern than the way they
were striped, uh, back in the 1990s. They'll be dashed as you approach each intersection,
which helps the motorist see that the bicyclist maybe leaving the bike lane to, uh, make a
turning movement. But they can still be in the travel lane, as well.
Wright/ That...that was why I wanted to check. People are going to be wanting to go both ways
and there's that...the safety issue if you're turning right from the far left lane, so...
Yapp/ Yeah, and that...that, that is one of the issues bicyclists have with bicycle lanes, is that
when they are making a turning movement, they need to leave the bike lane, whether it's
a two-way street or a one-way street.
Wright/ Thank you.
Bailey/ Okay. Other agenda items, or info packet items?
ITEM 8. AMENDING TITLE 3, FINANCES TAXATION AND FEES, CHAPTER 4,
SCHEDULE OF FEES, RATES, CHARGES, BONDS, FINES, AND PENALTIES,
SECTION 8, PARKING VIOLATIONS, TO AMEND PARKING FEES, RATES,
AND FINES.
ITEM 10. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 9, MOTOR
VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC, CHAPTER 9, TOWING AND IMPOUNDMENT
PROCEDURES, SECTION 4, IMPOUNDMENT FOR ACCUMULATED
PARKING VIOLATINS, SUBSECTION A: DETERMINATION OF TOWING
AND IMPOUNDMENT, TO COUNTY RAMP CHARGES AND VEHICLE
UNLOCK FEES TOWARD THE $50 "TOW THRESHOLD AMOUNT," AND TO
ELIMINATE THE REFERENCE TO AT LEAST FIVE (5) PARKING TICKETS;
AND TITLE 9, MOTOR VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC, CHAPTER 1:
DEFINITIONS, ADMINISTRATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF TRAFFIC
PROVISIONS, SECTION 1: DEFINITIONS, TO INCLUDE DEFINITIONS OF
"RAMP CHARGES" AND "VEHICLE UNLOCK FEE."
ITEM 11. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 9, MOTOR
VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC, CHAPTER 4, PARKING REGULATINS, SECTION
6, PARKING IN ALLEYS: SUBSECTION B, ALLEYS IN COMMERCIAL
DISTRICTS: PARAGRAPH 2, TO LIMIT PARKING IN AN ALLEY TO TEN
(10) MINUTES.
ITEM 12. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 9, MOTOR
VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC, CHAPTER 4, PARKING REGULATINS, SECTION
1, PARKING PROHIBITED IN SPECIFIED PLACES, SUBSECTION A,
PARAGRAPH 6, AND TITLE 9, MOTOR VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC,
CHAPTER 4, PARKING REGULATINS, SECTION 7: VEHICLES ON PARKIG
AREA, SUBSECTION B: STANDARDS, PARAGRAPH 3, SUBPARAGAPH C,
TO CHANGE THE PARKING RESTRICTION FROM WITHIN FIVE FEET (5')
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OF A FIRE HYDRANT TO THE FIVE FEET (5') OF CURB SPACE IN FRONT
OF THE FIRE HYDRANT.
ITEM 13. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 9, MOTOR
VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC, CHAPTER 5, PARKING METER ZONES AND
PARKIG LOTS, SECTION 6, PENALTIES; PARKING TICKETS: BY ADDING
SUBSECCTION D, RETURNED CHECKS:, TO ALLOW THE RECOUPMENT
OF FINANCIAL PENALTIES AND ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS UPON THE
RETURN OF ANY CHECK OR AUTOMATIC BANK DEBIT.
ITEM 14. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 9, MOTOR
VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC, CHAPTER 9, TOWING AND IMPOUNDMENT
PROCEDURES, SECTION 1, TOWING AND IMPOUNDMENT OF
ABANDONED VEHICLES; NOTICES, SUBSECTION A, TOWING AND
IMPOUNDMENT AUTHORIZED;, TO AMEND THE NOTICE REQUIREMENT
FROM SEVENTY-TWO (72) HOURS TO TWENTY-FOUR (24) HOURS
BEFORE TOWING VEHICLES FROM CITY-OWNED PARKING RAMPS.
ITEM 15. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 9, MOTOR
VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC, CHAPTER 9, TOWING AND IMPOUNDMENT
PROCEDURES, SECTION 4, IMPOUNDMENT FOR ACCUMULATED
PARKING VIOLATIOS;, SUBSECTION B, NOTICE OF TOWING AND
IMPOUNDMENT; HEARING:, TO ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT THA
THE VEHICLE BE IN VIOLATION OF PARKING REGULATINS AT THE
TIME OF TOWING OR IMPOUNDMENT AND STREAMLINE NOTICE
PROVISIONS.
Hayek/ I got.a couple of parking questions.
Bailey/ Yeah, I figured people would. Chris is here.
Hayek/ (mumbled) the agenda.
Bailey/ Not quite.
Hayek/ Man!
Bailey/ Looks like parking is a big issue here or something.
Hayek/ Thanks, Chris. Well, one question is simply that it's on item 11 which is the
use...restricting alley parking for ten minutes.
O'Brien/ Yeah, a lot of those outside of the fees, all of these are ordinance clean-up items. We
went through the ordinances, um, and that one you're referring to. There's four different
ref...three or four different references in this, uh, title to ten minute parking, and it's
different for them so we wanted to go through and clean it up and just label it as ten
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minutes, um...rather than, so it's more of a clean-up, much with the fire hydrant, uh,
referral where, um, the ordinance states no parking within five feet of a fire hydrant, and
while some of the fire hydrants are seven feet off the curb, the intent of that is to have
five feet of clearance for emergency vehicles to utilize that. Um, so that was just a clean-
up item to try to get that ordinance to...we saved 'em up so we had 'em all on one agenda,
rather than, um...have different ones spread out throughout the...
Hayek/ Does...do you, are you actually changing the alley restrictions, or just cleaning up...
O'Brien/ Just cleaning up...cleaning up the language.
Hayek/ Okay. Okay.
O'Brien/ It's always been ten. We usually give 15 to 20, um, just because it's impossible for us to
make it around that fast to get there in ten.
Bailey/ Okay.
O'Brien/ You want me to go through some of the other ones just so you have an understanding of
(several talking)
Hayek/ While you're up there.
O'Brien/ Sure. Um...okay, item 10, um, that was...what we're doing there, uh, one is we don't
tow for five tickets. We wait for the $50 threshold, so rather than leave that in the
ordinances, we're removing that since we don't utilize that threshold. Um, in addition,
one thing that, um, that was not in the code was tagging things like police unlock fees,
um, and so...when we impound vehicles we try to collect all of our fees that are
outstanding. Well, vehicle unlocks, as well as ramp charges, they have neglected to pay,
um, some exits if they don't have enough money, or if they do and they just say they don't
or whatever the circumstance is, um, we let them out on what we call a debit and so we,
um, are trying to get those all in so that people pay everything they owe the City before,
once we impound that vehicle. Uh, that's what item 10 is. Um, 11 we discussed. 12, the
fire hydrant, the intent of that ordinance. Once again, uh, we discussed that as far as
clearing up so that, um, it doesn't say just within five feet. Uh, 13, um, there's nothing in
the parking ordinances that states we can collect for, um, if someone has a bad check that
they write, so we just wanted to tie that to what the City currently does when someone
writes a bad check, so that's what that 13 is. iJh, 14, there's an ordinance that states that
vehicles are not allowed to park in a parking garage for more than 24 hours without
approval. But then we have to give them 72 hours notice before we remove them from
the garage, so what we're trying to do is...is limit that to a 24-hour notice to...so once
their time period passes and we find out they've been storing their vehicle, we'll put a
notification on their vehicle that shows them they only have 24 hours to move their
vehicle, rather than 72, is what the intent of that was. Uh, 15.. .
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Bailey/ Um, just a second, I have a question, and I assume that approval is...the hotel has some
exceptions.. .
O'Brien/ The hotel, permit holders, uh, but for people who are just storing their vehicle. Um, we
have records of all the permit holders. We track by license plate, so we're able to
determine who they are.. Um, in, right, in the Dubuque Street garage, it's...um, we try to
ask the hotel and if it's a question, then we don't...we don't move forward on...on...but
normally what you'll see is people have a lot of violations. Those are the ones that aren't
hotel guests, and those are the ones that we're trying to clean up, so...
Hayek/ But if you've got a monthly pass, you're...you're not going to be towed.
O'Brien/ Correct.
Hayek/ Okay.
O'Brien/ You know, if they leave their vehicle there and it's not...it's causing a hindrance or it's a
nuisance because it's unsightly or damaged or flat tires, leaking oil, we'll notify the permit
holder that it needs to be cleaned up.
Champion/ If somebody is storing their car, I agree they shouldn't be doing that. Um, the
problem with 24 hours, they may not check their car. You know? They might not check
their car to see if it's going to be towed.
O'Brien/ Right, and since the ordinance says you can only keep it there 24 hours, I guess that was
why we...
Bailey/ What kind of notice do I have if I drive into a, is there something there in the parking
garage that says I can't, they can't...
O'Brien/ It's not actually on the sign, um, it's...it's in the City code as far as ordinances. We
could certainly do that if...(several talking) sure.
Bailey/ ...probably not very known, not that that makes it okay.
O'Brien/ No, I understand.
Bailey/ But I think that you're going to...well, I think that a lot of people who have been in the
habit, students have found probably or...or, you know, people who use on-street parking
(mumbled) found this is a good option. (mumbled) heads up that this will be changing.
Champion/ Yes, I think you're right about that.
O'Brien/ I don't know that they know that they...only have 24 hours or that it's 72 from towing,
but I.. .
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Champion/ It might be a good idea to let the University, DI or somebody know when they give
information to the students in the fall. Because I'm sure a lot of people storing cars there
are probably students who are here, don't drive every day, and they figure they'll just park
in the ramp and leave it and then when they go out, say they lost their ticket, and they
only pay one day.
Bailey/ Right.
Wright/ Or you do what I did, which was drive downtown, park your car at Chauncey Swan and
walk home, and forgot that the car was there for three days. (laughter)
Bailey/ Yeah, yeah, I can see that happening! How do we communicate our parking, um, rules
to the University, and how do they communicate it to (both talking)
O'Brien/ They have a task force that, and I've spoken to Dave Ricketts, and starting in the fall,
our intent is to have either myself or Mark Rummel, who's present, our Associate
Director, uh, present at those meetings.
Bailey/ How...how does it get from those meetings to actual people who are new residents in
Iowa City, that would be...
O'Brien/ I think they have different people who...are representatives, and whether it's through
the media or through brochures, information goes out that way.
Bailey/ Yeah, I don't think we can put out too much information about (both talking) beginning
of the school year, I mean, I don't think that there are too many press releases or
what...however we do it.
O'Donnell/ Do we not have a sign up in the ramp?
Champion/ No.
Bailey/ Not for this.
O'Brien/Not for that one, no.
O'Donnell/ Maybe we should.
O'Brien/ Right, and we're looking at changing those anyway. We, um, with some changes that
we're making in credit card access, things like that, we'll...we could certainly look at
adding that. The concern that you run into is the more verbiage you put up the less likely
they are to read it, um, as they are with signage...
Bailey/ There isn't a universal symbol for don't leave it here over a day.
O'Brien/ Sure.
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Bailey/ But I don't think there is.
O'Brien/ And honestly (several talking and laughing) it usually takes us a while to see that a
vehicle's stored. We don't go through and mark every vehicle every night. So it's, you
find the stored vehicles are the ones that have been there three, four, five days already
probably by the time...
Champion/ I've seen a few of'em, cause they just get really dirty and dusty, and you can tell they
haven't been moved cause the, you can't see out the windshield. (several talking and
laughing) Covered with pigeon stuff.
O'Brien/ IJh, number 15, um, what that's doing is, currently we state that a vehicle must be in
violation before it is towed. Uh, what we're finding is that as people's fines escalate, they
will move into the parking garages, things like that. We'll notice $300, $400 and we can't
collect on that, um, and so what we're asking for is the elimination of the vehicle must be
in violation, um, to ...if they're on City property, streets, parking meters, um, parking
garage, things like that, they can be towed and, um, if we know that there are, one of our
scofflaws. Uh, number 16, oh, that's not me! Uh, the other one we have on here, boy, I
got on a roll there and just kept going! Uh, the other one we have on there is the fees. I
didn't know if there was any additional discussion we wanted to have on that. Um...
Bailey/ I'm sure we'll have plenty tomorrow night.
Hayek/ Well, yeah, and my...I raised this last time, and this has to do with quite a lot, the
feedback I've gotten about raising the rates at like Chauncey Swan, for example, which is
$20...a $20 increase or a one-third increase overnight, and I understand, I appreciate
wanting to get everything in sync so that we're not distinguishing between the ramps,
because any more the demand is essentially consistent across them, and also be consistent
with the University, but a lot of pain all in one fell swoop, and I don't know if we have
options to stagger it out a little bit.
O'Brien/ Sure we do, and...and the initial discussions, that was our proposal. Was...the first
year was $70, a bump up to $70, um, and I think the discussion at that time was is it
better to do it all at once or to have a consistent increase, um, where every year you're
seeing an increase come up in those parking rates, so um...we proposed it both ways, um,
in the budget, um.. .
Hayek/ And we opted for the, uh, and...
O'Brien/ Correct, and that's not to say we can't change it, obviously (several talking) um, you
know, that's why we have these discussions and that's why we have those public hearings.
We're certainly open to the...
Wright/ Did you hear from quite a few people about that?
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Hayek/ Yeah. I did. Um, and I've also, you know, I remember growing up and you were the
owner of a downtown cookie store who said, you know, it's better to raise your cookie
prices once a lot and then leave them for a while, than a little bit every year. People
really get torqued about cookie price inflation, and uh (laughter) so...
Bailey/ So you're going to tell that story tomorrow night?
Hayek/ I may have to. You know, I don't know if we're able to say, look, we're going to do this
all at once, but we anticipate leaving that for a period of...for longer than we would if we
staggered it. I don't know. It's hard...
O'Brien/ It's tough to make that a guarantee because you just don't know where you're going
to...especially with permit revenues, where it's going to fall, um, but that's our intent was
to raise it once and to leave it for an extended period, um, and that's why getting to 80,
bumping everything up some 20, you know, some are substantial increases, and we knew
that going in, um, and that was why we offered the staggered where as with a 65 to 80, or
75 to 80, there really wasn't as much thought into that, because it wasn't as big a jump,
but...but any time, you know, a 33% increase when you're talking a monthly rate is
something that you need to look at, so um...you know, we proposed it two ways because
we saw, it was a benefit both ways, and so we're...
Bailey/ I think it would be helpful at the beginning of the public hearing if you would overview
that and then overview the expired meters, um, the change in the expired meters citation.
O'Brien/ Yeah, we have heard some feedback about the rate increases, and the thing that's been
difficult for us is nobody specified which increases they're talking about.
Bailey/ Right, that's what I've heard too.
O'Brien/ Yeah, we've seen a couple letters that just, I think, saw there was an increase and, um,
but you know, I...I, some of the people that have sent letters I know are people who have
actually supported. We went to them ahead of time with our...our, uh, parking citation
changes and they were very supportive of those changes, so it's, um, you know, maybe
some more clarification tomorrow and the following two weeks.
Bailey/ Yeah, I think that would be helpful.
Hayek/ Does...does the Council have any interest in staggering those increases for...
Champion/ That large one I do.
Hayek/ I mean, I don't want to make a capital case out of this, but...
Champion/ No, it is a big jump, 33% is a big jump!
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O'Brien/ Needless to say, that's Chauncey Swan and Court Street. Um, and Court Street, once
again, that's, um, those are...are Transit funds. Um...for that facility, so I just want to
make sure that we're...
Hayek/ That need to be repaid. Right. But when you say...
O'Brien/ Everything goes straight to Transit. It doesn't, it doesn't get paid out.
Hayek/ I thought you were talking about...
O'Brien/ No, it's a...Court Street's a Transit asset, so everything...all the revenue generated goes
straight into Transit, so that...um...
Bailey/ You're interested in staggering it even before we hear comments?
Champion/ No, I mean, I'm interested in thinking about it.
Bailey/ I...I feel like that's a possible fallback position, if that's a concern. I've heard a lot of
concern but people haven't, once again, haven't been as specific, um, and so I'm not
exactly sure what they're talking about specifically, what will...what is the most
concerning, I think.
O'Brien/ I think some of it is employers who pay for employee parking where they might have
10 or 15 permits, uh, that they're paying for, and may see that, um, my initial response...I
assumed it was the meter rate, I guess was my first assumption.
Bailey/ That's what I was hearing from some people, but then again I don't know if...if, some of
them, most of them are downtown business owners, and I don't know if they're concerned
about, um, paying for permits or what it is.
O'Brien/ Or if it was just the word increase was a...was the scary...
Bailey/ Yeah, could be.
Wright/ In general I heard some grumbling about parking increases, but I didn't hear anything
specific about...that ramp, or those two ramps.
Bailey/ Right. Well, and I kind of agree with raise it once, keep it the same. The problem is, the
no guarantee aspect of this.
O'Brien/ Sure, and...and I think when, you know, it puts us in line with what people are paying
already for University permits, and permits in the area. That was why we felt that was a
rate that...
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Bailey/ Well, if I'm not...if I'm not doing that now, it doesn't matter (both talking) I mean I think
that's the issue. But I'd certainly be open to talking about it, depending upon what the
comments are.
Wright/ I don't feel strongly about it.
Bailey/ I don't feel strongly, yeah. I mean, I think...
Wright/ ...willing to (both talking) if there's a general feeling to do that.
Bailey/ An other questions?
Hayek/ The only feedback I've gotten on all, is on two parking ramps -Chauncey and Court -
and mostly Chauncey. People saying, look, I've been parking there for years because it's
the cheapest one and it makes me walk longer to get to my office and I pay for it myself,
etc., so...other than that I've not gotten one iota of feedback (both talking)
Bailey/ ...get exercise.
Hayek/ Okay, we'll see how it goes tomorrow night.
Bailey/ Yeah. Any other questions for Chris? Okay.
O'Brien/ Thank you.
Bailey/ Thanks, Chris.
Champion/ Thanks, Chris.
Bailey/ Okay, any other agenda items or info packet discussion?
IPS of 5/28 packet:
Wright/ Um...I think a number of us were contacted about the dog.
Champion/ Oh, right!
Bailey/ I think all of us.
Wright/ Pardon me?
Bailey/ I think all of us, yes.
Wright/ And I understand that there is a court hearing on Thursday, but the, um, euthanasia
hearing is on Tuesday, which seems a little out of kilter. Is there any flexibility on that, I
guess that's...
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Helling/ The hearing would be on Tuesday, but they, you know, if the result is euthanasia, that
wouldn't...that wouldn't be carried out before the (both talking)
Wright/ It wouldn't be carried out that quickly, okay.
Helling/ No, no.
Bailey /Eleanor, do you have, you look like.. .
Dilkes/ It's also the, the issues are different -the issue before the court is whether the transfer, the
decision made to transfer the dog to the City, uh, was legal and valid, uh, the issue in the
administrative hearing is whether the dog, um, meets the criteria that is in the code to be
euthanized. If there's a ruling, um, in the administrative hearing saying the dog can be
euthanized, that also is subject to appeal to the district court.
Bailey/ Okay.
O'Donnell/ who determines that?
Champion/ The City Manager.
O'Donnell/ Well, I mean, who determines that, do we have a, um, yeah, is there any set criteria if
the dog bites 21 people in three days, is there some kind of criteria set? (several talking)
Dilkes/ I can't...I didn't hear the question.
Bailey/ Is there some criteria set for euthanizing...
Dilkes/ Yes. There's criteria, three...I believe there are three elements in the code that have to be
satisfied. And there's a hearing officer in this case. It's the City Manager in this case, uh,
it was designated to, uh, Doug Boothroy.
Bailey/ Okay.
Champion/ Yeah, I appreciate the letter from, um, one of the city attorneys. I can't remember
who, yeah, from Sue. It's kind of explaining what had happened, because it was quite
informative.
Bailey/ Any other...um, info packet items or agenda items?
Hayek/ Had a question about the fish kill, but I see there's something in our packet. So I'll
(several talking)
Bailey/ Yes. I hadn't...I had a question about that.
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Wright/ Um, this is apparently my night.
Bailey/ Have at it!
Wright/ This could go under, um, Council time or, um, agenda items, but the, uh, we have an
item in the correspondence from Gary Sanders about the FBI, the Ramsey County Sheriff
being paid by the FBI to infiltrate a peace group...
Bailey/ LTh-huh.
Wright/...here in Iowa City, um, I found that very disturbing. That was a legal peaceful group,
uh, with no suspicious actions nor suspicious motives, and uh, I would be interested in
the Council coming up with a resolution or a letter to the FBI just saying that, uh, we
didn't appreciate this infringement on the civil rights of our citizens.
Bailey/ Are others interested in pursuing that...that approach?
Wilburn/ Do we know for a fact that they weren't...anyone in the group, uh, had sent any type of
letters or threats or, I mean, do we know that, could we have that factual information?
I'm just asking. I don't know.
Bailey/ I actually heard something a little bit different that wasn't completely anon-violent
intent, but...but that's just a way of framing (mumbled) discussion.
Wright/ Yeah, and I've talked to a couple other folks who just said that they were sort of stunned
by it.
Wilburn/ I don't know how they came up on the FBIs radar. I...I...
Champion/ And I, we probably wouldn't ever know. They probably wouldn't ever tell us, is what
I'm saying.
Wright/ Chances are.
Champion/ Right. I think there's got to be something in there, there must be some reason. Do
they really just go around and infiltrate peaceful groups? That seems really odd to me.
Wright/ I think they really do.
Champion/ I wouldn't put it past them.
Correia/ ...have in the past.
Wright/ It's nothing new!
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Champion/ Well, I think we should talk about it some more. I'd like to have a little more
information. I...that does bother me, if that's true.
Bailey/ What more information would you like?
Champion/ I don't know. I have to think about it.
Wilburn/ ...police chief consulted in any way by the FBI related to this (both talking)
Bailey /I believe he was not, but I think he's here.
Champion/ Oh, he is here!
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Wilburn/ Can we ask the FBI for...I mean, if they want to tell us that it's restricted information
then I'd rather hear that that's restricted information before I presume that...I just don't
know.. .
Correia/ Should we do a Freedom of Information Act request?
Wilburn/ yeah, that type of...I mean, yeah, I mean, I'm not saying that anyone is giving us...I'm
not saying anyone's giving us false information locally, but I...I've had...people not quite
sure of the whole story before....
Bailey/ (mumbled)
Wilburn/ There are different sides to stories.
Hargadine/ There are people that are, uh, presently doing the Freedom of (several talking) so that
is underway. Um, what was relayed to me was, uh, in the weeks prior to the Republican
National Conven....uh, Convention, and that there was some type of threat. They didn't
articulate what it was, and that um, it was a, uh, it was specific to the convention that they
were worried about, is there a threat, uh, at that particular event, and that's what
their...that's what their sole interest was, is um, are these protestors, are...is there more to
just protesting or um, is there a...a, blah, a specific threat and um, that's why they did
what they did.
Dilkes/ I think we probably want to cut this off at this point. This has not been noticed and
particularly given the nature of it, you probably want to put it on your agenda before you
talk about it.
Bailey/ are there four who are interested in putting this on a work session agenda?
Champion/ Yes. (several responding)
Bailey/ One, two, three...four. Okay. So, Dale, if you'd add that to the pending list.
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Champion/ Thank you.
Bailey/ Thanks. Other agenda items or info packet discussion?
ITEM 9. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 8, CHAPTER 5,
SECTION 1, ENTITLED "DISORDERLY CONDUCT" TO INCLUDE
FIGHTING OR VIOLENT BEHAVIOR IN THE DESCRIPTION OF
DISORDERLY CONDUCT.
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Correia/ Um, I had a question on item 9, the disorderly conduct. Um, adding the fighting and
violent behavior to the description of the Iowa City code. So that's already, I guess I'm
just wondering why we need to do that, if it's already a State code. Do we have local
charges that wouldn't be State charges? What is...
Dilkes/ It allows it to, allows us to charge it as a city charge, rather than a state charge.
Correia/ Why would we want to do that? Why wouldn't we.. .
Dilkes/ The revenue comes to us for one thing.
Hargadine/ And it does mirror the State code at present, I mean, the correction will mirror the
State code.
Dilkes/ What...what happened in this case is that there was a charge for a kind of a fighting
situation that was charged under the...the City's disorderly conduct, and we tried it, and
realized that our City code was...was not very well written with respect to charging, uh,
disorderly conduct for a fight situation. So, we're just fixing it.
Correia/ And so...when um, we...those charges...I guess I'm just thinking about when L ...look
at juvenile court data on charges. There's always a little asterisk that says something like,
this doesn't include offenses that are local ordinances, so it doesn't get elevated to be able
to be reported on, so how...how do those get reported for statistical purposes sort of
elevated up? Do you see what I'm saying?
Dilkes/ Amy, I think we'd have to see what you're talking about and what the specific reference
is to...and look at the reporting requirements for juveniles. I...I don't think we can
answer that tonight.
Correia/ Okay.
Bailey/ Thanks, Chief. Any other agenda items or info packet discussion? I think we've covered
almost everything so...okay. Let's move back to the top and go to JCCOG Affordable
Housing Task Force recommendations. John.
JCCOG Affordable Housing Task Force Recommendations (ref. IP 20:
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Yapp/ Good evening. Good evening, Marian. This picking me up? Uh, at its May 20th
meeting, uh, the JCCOG Board did formally approve the formation of a JCCOG
Affordable Housing Task Force. The, uh, recommendation for this...let me call it a
standing committee rather than a task force. They approved the formation of a standing
committee. Uh, made up of each of the municipalities JCCOG works with. Uh, Johnson
County Government, uh, the University of Iowa, Homebuilders, uh, the Realtors, the
Housing Fellowship, uh, and I think...I hit all of them. And the intent was to include
those, whether they're a municipal staff or housing groups, or the housing industry. The
intent was to include people involved in the housing industry on some level, that it would
be a group oriented toward practical solutions, those that have the...the deep knowledge
in the housing industry, to...have a standing committee and over time work toward
consistency in how each of the local governments, uh, the rules and regulations
associated with affordable housing and how those rules are interpreted. Uh, one of the
things that we've learned is that many of the rules and regulations, whether it be building
code interpretation, zoning rules, uh, things like minimum lot size, all those things, can
be very different within the, uh, abutting municipalities. Uh, as a JCCOG group, one
thing I think we have to acknowledge is that this group will be, uh, discussion oriented
group and... solely advisory to the local governments. They won't have any authority to
implement any policy or any...any funding sources, etc. Uh, and that's where, uh, I
asked Tracy Hightshoe is here from your Community Development department. If there
are initiatives or policies or programs which you would like acted on sooner rather than
later, I think it would be appropriate to work through your Community Development
division, or your Planning and Zoning division, uh, or your Housing Authority depending
on what that...that issue is. Uh, we did attach the full report from the Johnson County
Affordable Housing Task Force, uh, which addressed much of the information in the
Affordable Housing Market Analysis which was released about a year and a half ago
now, uh, since the time of that market analysis, we have had a lot of changes, and that
was...some of the things discussed, as well, both with the national economy, uh, the local
economy due to the flood, and the local housing stock. Again, due to the flood, and
I...those issues are things that we're still getting a handle on and still, uh, still unsure...
many of the flooded properties where they will end up, and I think that will be the case
for the next several years. With that, I'd be glad to take any questions.
Bailey/ Any questions for John?
Champion/ Will this, um, standing committee...make some recommendations to the different
city, um, governmental agencies?
Yapp/ That's the intent.
Champion/ Okay, great! Great.
Yapp But not right away, I mean, I think it'll take some time to build some consensus, but yes,
that is the intent.
Champion/ Okay, good.
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Correia/ So who...who will be representing Iowa City? How does that...
Yapp/ It will be a staff appointment, um, my intent was to go to your City Manager, uh, and...if,
if he wants to, bring it to the Council that would be his discretion. I think most of the
municipalities are designating the...the administrator or manager was designating a staff
person.
Bailey/ Makes sense. Any other questions? (several commenting) Okay.
Wright /Just one quick question. When do you, uh, anticipate that the, um, group will
be...getting down to business and getting started?
Yapp/ Uh, in July. For...for JCCOG, this is in our FY10 work program, um, our intent was as of
July (mumbled). We've already started making the context (mumbled)
Wright/ Thank you.
Correia/ (mumbled) open meetings (mumbled)
Yapp/ They will be open to the public, uh, advertised accordingly, uh, posted accordingly, uh,
there are others...there are some other interested groups interested in this issue, not
necessarily associated with the housing industry. They'll certainly all be invited and uh,
like any JCCOG meeting.
Bailey/ And they could...and people can sign up for notice and information, just like any other
JCCOG group. (mumbled response) Okay, all right.
Correia/ (mumbled) JCCOG packet? Posted on the web site? How does that happen?
Yapp/ Typically we post preliminary minutes on the web site, and then once they're approved,
then we'll post them as final minutes.
Correia/ Okay, great.
Bailey/ Thank you, John.
Champion/ Thanks!
Bailey/ Okay, Housing Authority termination policies.
Housing Authority Termination policies (ref. IP3):
Boothroy/Before we get started on the, um, excuse me, the memorandum that Steve had put in
the packet, uh, I just wanted to make a comment about, um, the action that the Housing
Authority took in the last week and a half to deal with the incidents on the southeast side
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of town. I don't know if all of you are aware of that, but I think Steve's initiative was at
the right time and the right place, and I think, uh, we've got control, at least at this point
in time, of the situation. Um, he hand-delivered letters to the five families that were
involved, that had children involved, and uh, and the...the disorderly conduct or
whatever it was described as, and uh, requested that they participate in mediation and um,
it's a serious matter for those families. That's what we're here to talk about, uh, they
understand that there are ramifications, and they did participate and, uh, from what I
understand the meetings were productive and I think, uh, Steve deserves an 'atta boy' for
that effort, because he got there quickly and Sam's here tonight, and I wanted him just to
give the police's perspective on how the Housing Authority handled that and got involved
(mumbled). Would you come up and just...for a second, and then we'll start on the...the
details of the memorandum. But, it's that kind of action I think that's necessary to...to
move forward in these kind of situations and...and uh, get things under control.
Hargadine/ I would echo those sentiments as well, Doug, uh, um, we had several flare-ups -two
in the neighborhood and one at a local school -and uh, got a hold of Steve pretty quick
and said, I need some method of getting parents' attention, and uh, Steve's response was,
you know, I've already got a letter drafted. We can have them out in...and hand-deliver
them today, and uh, he did that and I think that was huge towards just sending a flare up
to everybody, um, stop what you're doing and think about the consequences, and um, as
we discuss the policies and procedures, I think it's a perfect model of community oriented
policing in problem solving. Uh, usually in those models you...you deal with
neighborhood services. You interact with protective inspections, and the Housing
Authority, and...and in this case, it's an example of how it worked well.
Boothroy/ Thanks, Sam.
Rackis/ Thanks, oh yeah, thanks everybody. Marian, you got me? Okay. Uh, following John's
lead, uh, for tonight's purposes we're talking about, um, what happens when a head of
household and...and an adult family member get into trouble or violate program
violations, and...and as we get into the discussion, there are some key points that I just
want to start with, and the first is that we maintain credibility with applicant and
participant families, owners, landlords, neighborhoods, the larger community, and the
Department of Housing and Urban Development by enforcing these program
requirements. Uh, under federal regulations, uh, these federal regulations state when the
Housing Authority must terminate assistance, and where we have the discretion to
terminate, uh, others based on certain actions or inactions of family members. Uh, to
preserve the integrity of the Housing Choice Voucher Program, it is important that
families abide by their family obligations and lease agreements. Participation in the
program is not an entitlement. Program integrity promotes accountability and personal
responsibility, and I think overriding all of this is our policies are applied fairly, firmly,
and uniformly to all program participants. Uh, we're set up to give oppur...families an
opportunity, uh, to succeed, and uh, with that I'd just like, you know, to draw your
attention, uh, very quickly to the, uh to the flow chart, to just get that visual of...of how
this process works...and uh, and as you look at this flow chart, there's a couple things
to...to understand, um, one key component is according to the Violence Against Women
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Act, a victim of domestic violence cannot lose her or his, uh, assistance, if they are a
victim. So I wanted to make that clear, because we did have two families that were
terminated because a head of household was the abuser in those cases. So, the...the
victim has special protection. Um, and the other thing that we have is something called
consideration of circumstances, and that...that really is a very, uh, very broad and...and
general, uh, look at the family and all the components of the family, all the components
of the...the action or inaction, what happened, who was involved, what personal
responsibility was taken by the head of household and the parties concerned. So if we, if
we walk through this flow chart, we...we are looking at these consideration of
circumstances all the way through the process. So...so typically what happens is we
receive some information regarding a breach of family obligations, uh, this maybe, uh,
an arrest that's reported on, uh, the police blotters. It maybe something reported, uh,
somebody's gone to jail, it maybe at an annual review when we are looking back over the
previous year and we discover somebody did not report income. It maybe we've
received a complaint of an unauthorized person, uh, or the landlord notifies us that the
family is not paying rent, uh, the landlord notifies us that the, he or she thinks there's an
unauthorized person, so something happens, uh, we get information and we begin to
investigate that...that information. Uh, during this investigation of information, again,
we're considering the circumstances, we're drawing upon all the resources we have to get
the...the truest picture of what occurred. Uh, once we have a lot of data in place and we
start getting a clearer picture, uh, at this, um, little diamond here, uh, HUD required must
terminate. It is most likely at that point, sometimes sooner, but definitely at this point
when we believe that we have, um, discovered and uh, have enough evidence to show
that there's been a breach of family obligations, that's when we contact, uh, Legal, and
we...we ask for Sue Dulek's opinion as to whether it's a HUD required termination, or a
HUD you may terminate. So that...that dictates the...the next action that we take. If it's
determined that it's a may terminate, uh, we send the termination letter. If that
termination is appealed, uh, we schedule a hearing, uh, if the termination is upheld, uh,
we then terminate the assistance and we always get a 30-day notice. If it's a HUD may
terminate, um, we...we, you know, get that information from Sue. We, again, are
looking at, is there any...is there any reason to mitigate this? Is there any other family
circumstances, uh, you know. If yes, if we discover something, many times families
come forward and have an explanation. We work it out with the family, maybe and...I
mentioned in the memo, numerous other agencies get involved in our process. If we, uh,
find a reason to mitigate the termination, housing choice voucher assistance is continued.
If we do not, and... and again, we are attempting to give, um, the families every
opportunity to succeed in this process. If we, uh, cannot find any mitigating
circumstances, then we...we send the termination letter. But even still, after we send the
termination letter, sometimes we haven't really gotten families' attention until we've sent
that termination letter saying your assistance is going to be terminated such and such a
date, such and such a time, uh, you have a right to appeal. It is at that point that, um, the
family files an appeal and maybe even at that point we're finding some mitigating
circumstances and we're not scheduling a hearing and uh, the...the assistance is
continued. Uh, we're really only going to termination in...in those instances where there
is really no other recourse except the termination of assistance. And having said that, we
still get into a hearing and we discover something that we never knew, and uh, just
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recently I believe in January, an individual who was on her third repayment agreement,
uh, which we were going to terminate the assistance. She's never, uh declared herself as
disabled, came forward and said she had a brain injury and had problems with paperwork,
and since January we've been working with Vocational Rehabilitation, Elder Services
Community Mental Health. So, we got all the way to a hearing before we discovered
that, and obviously did not hold the hearing and...and issue a termination, uh, decision.
So again very quickly, and this is, you know, a very simple flow chart, uh, very quickly,
we're looking for opportunities to help families succeed. We have consideration of
circumstances that are...that are outlined in, uh, the packet that I gave you, and...and
again, I think, uh, the key and overriding feature is our policies are applied fairly, firmly,
and uniformly to all participants.
Champion/ You know, Steve, if somebody hasn't been paying their rent, and then they're
terminated, is the landlord out that rent or what happens with that?
Rackis/ Typically if a family's not terminating their...their rents, the landlord's going to enforce
their lease, and uh, you know, the landlord, you know, may give them some informal
notices. Some landlords jump to, uh, formal, you know, seven-day notices for
nonpayment of rent. We...we encourage landlords to include us in that process. If we're
notified that somebody's not paying rent, we send a letter to the family, uh, stating that,
um, the worst thing that can happen, uh, on somebody in federally assisted housing is to
be evicted from that federally assisted housing. So we send a letter, very similar to, like
with the incident south of town that you need to comply with your lease. You need to
comply with your landlord. If your landlord evicts you, you're going to lose your housing
and you're going to be denied. So we work with the landlords. Again, that...that's a very
good question. If you really look at it, the housing choice voucher program is a triangular
relationship. The...the client has a relationship with the Housing Authority because
we've determined them to be eligible, and they are signing the voucher, the legal
document. They're signing off saying they understand the family obligations, and we're
telling them that based upon their income, that we're going to pay a portion of the
contract rent. That family also is signing a legal document with the landlord, the lease.
Uh, once that unit's passed inspection, the rent is reasonable, it's the right bedroom size,
we then enter into a Housing Assistance Payment contract with that landlord, and...and
so, again, there's legal requirements all the way around and you...you try to work
together to...again, ensure that family is successful. (unable to hear mumbled question)
Yeah, we do have when people do not report, uh, income, uh, we enter into repayment
agreements. It's not always clear whether the family intended or you know, to omit
the...the data, or you know, whether it's one of these acts of commission or omission,
you know, they just simply...they thought they reported. They called. You told them,
you know, you got to put it in writing. They never put it in writing. So when we...we
have just a straight repayment agreement, we do not terminate the family. We enter into
a repayment agreement with them. iJh, our guidelines we try to have the, you know,
minimum of $50 and hopefully the repayment agreement paid within two years. Um,
sometimes that doesn't happen and those things are changed. We...we typically then
give a family three chances to succeed, but uh, once they get to like a third repayment
agreement, we...we'll enter into a repayment agreement and terminate their assistance.
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iJh, while HUD says you may...may terminate, it is really HUD's uh, HUD's intent for
the program, if the family continues to repeat the behavior, and even though it's a may
terminate, that at some point if they continue to, you know, repeat that behavior that we
do take action and terminate that family.
Hayek/ Um, thank you for this memo. It's choked full of useful information. A question I have
as to the, uh, minors' issue, uh, I understand the mediation efforts that are taken and
assume that most often that...that's enough to...to end the problem, but what happens if
those same minors continue to, um, commit acts that violate the family obligations?
Rackis/ Again, HUD would say, if they continue to repeat those acts, continue to have acts of
violence that HUD...HUD's expectation is that we would terminate assistance. One of
the things that we're going to look at, um, very closely is what's the parent's involvement
in terms of, uh, controlling the youth, trying to change those behaviors, uh, we have...we
have a parent that has a very difficult child and a perfect example of that - I had a
meeting at juvenile court services probably about six months ago. I came out of the
meeting. She's there in tears. Her son ran away from the tracker, disappeared. Her first
action was to go to juvenile court services and report it to them. And even though the kid
had committed yet another act, um, I just simply met with juvenile court, uh, discussed it
with them, uh, discussed it with the parent and we have not terminated her assistance.
She is doing everything in her power. If the parent is not doing anything, I mean, then it
sort of shifts the burden to 'parent what are you doing. Kid continues to get in trouble.
You...you don't appear to be doing anything about it.' That's where the focus begins to
shift to, you know, we...we are looking at terminating assistance because the parent's not
accepting the personal responsibility and accountability.
Correia/ Do you use a, um, social worker to help assess that? Cause I mean I think that there's
lots of ways parents are or aren't trying to get help for their children that may or may not
appear that way to others.
Rackis/ We...we have (both talking) yeah, we...we have a lot of contact with, um, we're getting
information and partnering with the Family Resource Center coordinators in...in the
schools, uh, community mental health, social workers, uh, Department of Human
Services social workers, you know, if the family, typically, if the family's working with
any other organization and those behaviors are repeated, then we are, you know, in
contact with those organizations as to what's being put in place, what's the next step,
what's the next thing. So, yeah, we're working with, uh...
Correia/ How...how is that...determination made that...a criminal activity threatens the health,
safety, or right to peaceful (mumbled) of other residents and persons residing in the
immediate vicinity. Running away or...you know, I don't know the specifics and I don't
need to know the specifics of that juvenile, but certainly when, uh, adolescents maybe
getting into trouble, it's not...through actions that are threatening the safety of (mumbled)
or others. It may, but it may not be, so I mean how is that determination made, and again,
is there...
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Rackis/ Well, according to the federal regs, uh, drug related activity and...and violent criminal
activity is...is not, uh, just that activity that's on the premises.
Correia/ But I mean, that's what it says in here. It says threatens the health, safety, or right to
peaceful enjoyment of other residents and persons residing in the immediate vicinity of
the premises, and that's what our...that's what it says...in our may terminate, both three
year and one year.
Dilkes/ Sue can...can you answer, you want to come up and respond to that.
Dulek/ Hi, there are different categories or different criteria that the Housing Authority can take
action. Violent criminal activity stands alone. Drug related criminal activity stands
alone, or other criminal activity that may have an effect on such and such and such. So
you...you don't have to show that violent criminal activity has an effect on the
neighborhood, or that drug related activity has an effect on the neighborhood. But if
you're talking about other criminal activity, you do have that, uh, extra burden. Does that
answer your question?
Champion/ Can you give me a for instance?
Correia/ See, I don't...
Dulek/ I'm not sure what you're...
Correia/ ...three year so it's (mumbled)
Dulek/ Right. An...an example, let's just say...um, the kid, um, is vandalizing the apartment
complex. It's not drug related, it's not violent, but at some point that could affect the, um,
the health, safety and welfare of the neighborhood.
Champion/ That's a good one. Thank you.
Correia/ Thafd be the other.
Dulek/ Yes.
Rackis/ I think the instance that we talked about earlier today at that meeting where the kid tried
to run away, they were sort of in between this spot and the...the complex, and the...the
apartments, and again, we just looked...that was a juvenile and they were, I believe,
arrested for disorderly conduct so again we just set up, um, our mediation through our
normal procedures for dealing with juveniles, just to simply address that particular
situation. Our intent in that situation was not to terminate the family, but to meet with the
family and...and quite frankly if I would have known, uh, that, because I had a separate
conversation with Matt Johnson that talked about that particular family, had I put two and
two together, that...that was a family that Matt Johnson had told me about, I wouldn't
have had the mediation meeting, because the mother had...had modeled, I mean, she
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went out. She talked very calmly to the police. The police had her kids in the backseat
of the car. They had arrested them for disorderly conduct. She simply went out -what
happened? What's going on? What did they do? Okay, what's going to happen next?
Will you release them to my custody, and they did. If I would have put two and two
together and...and had known that that was the family that Matt had told me about, I...I
would not have brought Valerie Kemp or Andy Tucker or anybody else in. I would have
just simply talked to the kids and the mother myself.
Bailey/ Other questions?
Champion/ I think that's a good policy, because sometimes parents do not have any control over
their children. Even when they try.
Correia/ The issue for me is that sometimes parents don't have control over their children
because their children might have a serious mental health or emotional disturbance that
they haven't been able to get any help on (both talking) well...well, right, so it's not that
they're a bad parent or that they're, but that they...you know, their child is...has an
untreated mental health issue, and so part of what feels like happens is that then the
family in this situation, rather than it...being able to expend their energy on getting their
child the help that they need and navigating the system...that system, which is a very
poorly structured system in Iowa, the children's mental health. There essentially isn't a
children's mental health system, that they're trying to save their housing and going
through this system, which may or may not provide them with health, I mean, because
Housing Authority doesn't have...doesn't provide mental health care, but then they're
focused on that and it, you know, I'm just...and so, from my perspective, you know,
persons that are living in unassisted housing, rental family, or are in owner-occupied
housing, their kids get in trouble and they can focus their attention on getting their kids
help. And sometimes those parents do not focus their attention on getting their kids help
either, but they don't have to worry about becoming homeless and going through a
rigorous, and the child doesn't have to feel that... a child that may already have an
emotional disturbance feel like they maybe responsible for their family losing their
housing, and that certainly, for achild - an adolescent -does not promote.. .
Rackis/ Well, again, while we don't have direct services, our staff is...is very well attuned to the
services that exist in the community. In...in many times in the six years that I've been
here and we've had kids get into trouble, that parent is completely unaware of the
multiple services that are available, that simply that parent is working hard, you know,
going to work maybe working two part-time jobs. They...they've never contacted the
School Councilor. They don't know that the Family Resource Center exists at...at each
school. That's what we can bring to the table by addressing, uh, the juveniles, that we
can...can provide them access to those services that they may not otherwise...
Correia/ I guess it would feel like a more supportive type of way of getting services to families if
it didn't come with, you know, we have to go through this termination hearing (several
talking) well, but they get a termination letter and if there...if they feel like they can trust
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the Housing Authority they may go to the Housing Authority, for whatever reason
(several talking)
Bailey/ I think there's some...Steve wants to clarify something.
Rackis/ No...we're, with this memo we're talking about adults. We're not talking about kids.
Correia/ But all we've been talking about are kids.
Rackis/ No, I've been talking about adults. The...the, this is all...
Correia/ ...questions have been about kids.
Rackis/ Well...again, we...we're not sending termination. We...we did not send a termination
letter to the kids involved in the incident on Hollywood Boulevard, and uh, and Miami
Drive. We sent them a letter...we sent a letter to the parents, inviting them to mediate.
We said in the letter that vio...you know, this type of activity could, but we specifically
said in the letter, this letter is not terminating your assistance. I think I started off, again,
that...this memo is addressing adults, and behavior of adults, and in the six years that I've
been here, we've only terminated two families because of what a juvenile has done, and
in...in one case the...the parents, they did not appeal the decision, and in the other case,
um, there were three incidents that occurred and had the mother interacted with the
police, and it involved a BB gun. It involved three separate instance...instances. It
involved another child getting shot with this BB gun that required medical attention, and
at noon that day, the police simply told the mother, all we want is give us the gun. Your
kid's already been charged once in juvenile court. This will be a probation violation.
We...we do not want him to have a probation violation, just give us the gun, and she said,
'No,' and they said, well, we'll have to go get a search warrant, and she said, 'You do what
you need to do; I'll do what I need to do.' And she walked off into the house. At...at, uh,
3:00 or so that afternoon, this kid took the same gun to Mercer Park, put that gun to
another kid's head and demanded oral sex. At 5:30 that afternoon, the kid shot another
kid with the gun and caused medical...medical attention and...and the mother, again, I go
back to, said, 'You do what you need to do; I'll do what I need to do,' and that is the first
family that we've terminated the assistance and it came down to that the mother could
have avoided the second two incidences had she gone in the house, got the gun and gave
it to the police.
Bailey/ So...what I'm hearing is, and...and correct me if I'm wrong, that if there's a...an incident
involving a juvenile, that you reach out to that family in some way and typically it's
mediation of some sort. You're sitting down with, uh, resources that you have access to
and talking with the family, to whatever degree is necessary.
Rackis/ Correct.
Bailey/ Okay.
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Champion/ I think that also, Amy, um, that schools and counselors, I think they're pretty astute to
mental problems with students and if they think a child has a mental problem, sure there's
some reporting that goes on about that. There are also kids who are just brats. Uh, but
there's a different and I agree with you, mental health needs to be treated, but I think with
all t he resources and the school situation with counselors and teachers, mainly, catch that
stuff. I think those kids are being, at least being diagnosed by somebody. Anyway, I like
this, this clarifies a lot. Thank you.
O'Donnell/ (several talking) appreciate what you did here, um, you know, we keep talking about
kids and children. You know, some of them had baseball bats and um, in Cedar Rapids
we just about had an officer that lost his life by three juveniles. So I...I think, you know,
in Iowa City, and I do receive many calls about people afraid to go out of their homes at
night and uh, that troubles me a lot. So I...I think, um, like what you've done here is...is
very appropriate and um, I think...I just think it's a great letter and I appreciate it.
Bailey/ Ross, do you have something?
Wilburn/ I was just going to, I mean, there's uh, no question that there are gaps in the mental
health system, not just with juveniles, uh, with adults but with juveniles. LJh, the only
question that I would have, and um, because there are going to be gaps. There are going
to be young people that will slip through, um, it's great that you have the faith in the, uh,
teachers and (both talking)
Champion/ I do!
Wilburn/ ...counselors, but there are, uh, there are times when a young person who may have
some mental health issues that, um, will um, get in an adversarial relationship with the
schools, with their parent, and so there are times...I view this similar in vein, there are
times when an adversarial relationship, um, will develop with housing similar to what
happens in...in some of the schools, and um, sometimes it is, um, you know, the letting
someone know what the consequence or whether it's maybe perceived as threat, um, but
uh, my concern, um, I...I heard it a little better when you explained, uh, the situation of
running away, it uh, that the other criminal activity, uh, that a status offense wouldn't be,
um, held against, uh, an adult in housing, um, status offense meaning it's only...well,
running away is not a crime so...
Rackis/ Yeah, we had a mediation, and the kids were charged, and basically because they both,
you know, I...they were both charged with disorderly conduct (both talking)
Wilburn/ That's different than, yeah...
Rackis/ But again, you know, our...our, I have a background in mediation, and uh, that's what I
brought to the Housing Authority when addressing juveniles, and again, this new staff
is...is bringing mediation services and this family circle approach that Valerie Kemp uses
and the...the juvenile court services use, with juveniles, and so again, I felt that that was,
again, in dealing with juveniles, to take it out of just an internal Housing Authority,
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include these third parties with ...with the notion of that the whole purpose of it is to
provide the resources to the families. Again, I think the purpose of this memo is we do
treat adults differently. They are signing leases. They are signing the voucher. They are
signing that they understand the family responsibilities, and if they are engaged in drug
related activity, violent criminal activity, they're allowing unauthorized persons to live in
the unit, or they're not reporting income, to protect the integrity of the program, you
know, at some point we're going to take action.
Wilburn/ And I think...I think for us when we're asked by the public, I mean, and uh, you know,
I'm not sure how it came up but if, you know, uh, well I...taken away from your example,
Mike, I mean I had someone, um ask me about, well isn't anything going to be done, and
I said, well, um, if someone committed a violent act, they would have been arrested.
They would have, if they were juvenile, they would get engaged in the juvenile court
system. That's...that's what happens, uh, there are other things that we try and put in
place and the cooperation with the other systems and even within our own system, that's
(mumbled) is happening, um, you know, we're...we're not going to, um, stop certain
things happening in the moment -people make choice -but even certain activities that we
do with the house have other effects. For example, I just witnessed, uh, yesterday, uh,
there was, uh, a shouting match going on between a few kids, um, other kids come
around. There's 10, 12 kids around, couple, um, adults started walking down, couple
patrol officers stop by, all of two minutes -the adults (mumbled) the kids away, the cops
go on their way, the area's clear -five minutes later, I hear, um, I hear an adult saying to
the kid, 'No, I don't want you to go down there, cause you keep getting into trouble down
there.' That's something you won't read about in the paper. You don't hear people calling
about, but you know, it was...for all of two minutes, there was a shouting match among
some teenagers and everybody, the adults did what the adults should do, law enforcement
did what they should do, they didn't have any excessive response which is two officers.
They didn't call for, you know five...but again, that's something that, uh, you're not going
to read about, you're not going to see about, people aren't going to ask, it could happen in
any part of town, so...and uh, that exchange may have been a result of some of the
actions (mumbled) and the adults themselves.
Hayek/ You know, I think, uh, in my opinion is Iowa City (mumbled) and mental health services
is better, uh, relative to most communities, but I don't doubt that the gaps exist, um, but
this seems...your policies seem to me to be sensitive to the difference between minors
and adults, and I think that's the right approach, but...but uh, when there's...when some
sort of act...when an act occurs that has victims, um, the fact that it was committed by a
minor or an adult, uh, matters less. Uh, and I think the City as a provider of assisted
housing is, has to take ownership, uh, when those things occur, and I believe this policy
does that. Um, but I'm...I'm pleased by what I've heard tonight (mumbled) an
appropriate approach to the situation that was faced a few weeks ago and... and that you
probably face from time to time (mumbled) glad to see us crack down and I...I, in a
sensitive but...but firm manner that does carry consequences if the situation doesn't get
better.
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Wright/ And I appreciate your willingness to take into account parents who are really trying and
working with their children, or if they are unaware of services, trying to hook them up to
appropriate services. I mean, Amy's correct and... and Ross, you mentioned that as well,
but sometimes...sometimes the schools do miss or there maybe a...other subtle behavior
problem that's serious but more difficult to detect. It sounds as if you're trying to hook
folks up with the appropriate services. So...that's admirable.
Bailey/ Anything else for Steve, Doug (mumbled)
Rackis/ I forgot to mention, Linda Severson's also a (mumbled) for services, and I....just realized
she was sitting over there.
Bailey/ Okay. All right, thank you.
Champion/ Thank you.
O'Donnell/ Wow, this went quickly tonight.
Bailey/ All right, um, let's keep going...down, um, Council time.
Council Time:
Bailey/ I just have a quick question -have we started street sweeping yet?
Helling/ Yes.
Bailey/ Okay. Good. It's very sandy out there.
Correia/ Um, I just wanted to let folks know on Friday, um, there, this coming Friday, there's a
summer kick-off bar-b-que at Fair Meadows Park that's sort of a follow-up from the
community meeting a few weeks ago, um, (mumbled) the summer, um, in a
positive...positive activities. The unified drill team will be performing, um, the Rec
Center will be represented at the table with some information about free activities, the
playground, that sort of thing.
Bailey/ We have it here. (noise on mic)
Correia/ And started working with Mike to schedule the Grant Wood Gym for every evening
during the summer with supervised activities, so that (mumbled) activities, so...
Process of Evaluating City Clerk & City Attorney:
Bailey/ Okay. Anything else, Council time? Okay, let's um, there's a handout tonight. Let's just
go through this process for evaluating City Attorney and City Clerk. That time of year. I
don't think it'll be delayed by flood this year. (several commenting) So, I just put
together some, um, you know, a possible way we could go. The top page is an outline of
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the timeline, but let's first start with tools, um, and I think that'll help us develop our
timeline. What we'll use for the evaluation of, obviously, is the goals or what we have
from last evaluation, annual evaluation which I think we did in the fall, and then I'm
proposing that we do some type of Council input, and I have a model back here. It's very
similar to the one we used for City Manager. The staff input evaluation, which is behind
this sheet. These are questions that we've typically asked, um, City Clerk and City
Attorney in previous evaluations and then any additional materials from the staff
member. So, what I'd like to do is look at this evaluation part 2, because this would be
the newest part for this evaluation process. I thought since we structured the City
Manager's evaluation a little bit, we could take advantage of that structure and use this a
little bit with City Clerk, City Attorney. We've never really had a structured input
process, at least to this degree. If we want to go that way, we can. We don't have to.
So...I, um, pulled some questions from that, um, part 2 that we used before, put them
together, some you may feel don't apply. We can cross them off, we can go through, we
can decide if we want to use it. I'll give you some time to read. I'll take a restroom
break. (mumbled) talk about if we want to use this. (BREAK) Okay, so my
fundamental question is how do we want to provide input to our staff members? Do we
want to use something like this, or would we like to use something, um, based upon
(mumbled) structure?
Champion/ I think performance evaluation part 1 is usually what Marian and.. .
Bailey/ Right.
Champion/ ...Eleanor do. I don't think we need this type of formal evaluation, um, with these
two. I kind of like it when we just sit around and.. .
Bailey/ Do you want these different categories, or do you want, I mean, do you want to be able to
reflect in different categories or do you want (both talking)
Champion/ I think this is...I don't think it needs to be structured. I think this is useful for myself.
Um, I just don't think we need to fill out more papers.
Bailey/ Okay. So, you would use this as a guide for comments, but you wouldn't...we wouldn't
necessarily compile it? Okay.
Champion/ But I...that's just my opinion.
Bailey/ Okay. Other thoughts?
Wright /I like formal evaluations. I think (both talking) I like them to be structured and
relatively consistent from one year to the next.
Champion/ I'm not fussy either way.
Wright/ Um...
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Champion/ It just seems needless.
Wright/ But I do like the...the possibility that you (mumbled) discuss (mumbled) have some give
and take, so I think there's...
Bailey/ Well, I mean, we had a range here, so I wanted to provide some options. (several
talking) Where are the rest of you falling in the middle? Cause I think we can do any
variation...we haven't used a lot of formalized structure in these evaluations, I mean, like
I said, part 1 is essentially the questions we ask every year. And so I think...they're
probably, once we talk about that, there will probably be some agreement on that, but
we've never really had a part 2...to this degree, I don't think.
O'Donnell/ I...I like it more informal. I like the way we've done it in the past.
Bailey/ Would you want categories to come in on...broad categories, or just simply...
Champion/ Well, I think these are all great categories.
Bailey/ Okay, so you...are you, Mike, saying, like Connie use this as a guide, but don't
necessarily compile something written or...
O'Donnell/ Well, you can use it as a guide but L ..I just, I truly like informal, uh, conversation.
Bailey/ Other thoughts?
Hayek/ I...I guess, uh, I mean I...the...the fact, looking at part 2, I can see some items that I
would put an N/A (several talking), um, I don't have to have this kind of structure, but the
fact that we already do so in the manager position...makes me lean toward making it a
little more consistent.
Champion/ We have not done that in the past. (several talking)
Hayek/ But we are now. I mean, right?
Champion/ Well, we did. Yeah, we are now.
Bailey/ I think we'll probably continue it.
Champion/ I don't care, I mean, if the majority think we should have a formal thing (several
talking)
Bailey/ One of the...(several talking) I don't want to minimize these two positions. These two are
still our employees. I don't want to have this sort of huge process and then say, oh, yours
(mumbled) so I mean, I did...(several talking) on one hand it could be great, if you have
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a great relationship. On the other hand, it didn't seem very respectful, but...I mean, that's
interpretation.
Wilburn/ ...to be consistent, we...we, um, we evaluate three positions, um, I think they should
be (mumbled) consistently.
Bailey/ Okay. (several talking)
Champion/ That's fine. I don't care. I mean, it's not laborious.
Bailey/And, okay, so...just having glanced through this, I, you know, it would be helpful if we
didn't have a lot of N'As. So are there things that we should just take off, because they're
not really germane for the evaluation or, I mean, is there a consensus on what those items
would be? Because it could be that you might think one and (both talking)
Hayek/ Yeah, I would leave this as is.
Correial I think so.
Hayek/ It's fairly short and sweet, and we've (both talking)
Bailey/ We can tweak it if it, after the fact, if...if we want to alter something for upcoming years.
Hayek/ It gets the job done.
Bailey/ Okay. All right, so...um...
Wright/ There's one of those questions, just scanning through it, I wasn't...entirely sure what you
were getting at, and that's just under planning and implementation, number 4, reviews
enforcement procedures periodically to improve effectiveness.
Bailey/ Well, that would be something like, um, Eleanor would have brought a scanned some of
our ordinances to bring language updates or something like that.
Wright/ Okay.
Bailey/ That's immediately what I thought of, or...or Marian with some of our liquor license
procedures.
Wright/ Okay, perfect.
Bailey/ I mean, I thought of the (mumbled) as well (both talking)
Wright/ ...just needed the context for it.
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Bailey/ Well, that's how I thought about it. Okay, so we've also...we briefly glanced at part 1,
these are the questions we generally ask. Are we in agreement of asking staff
(mumbled)? Okay, so let's look at the timeline and see what's doable. And so we
basically confirmed these evaluation tools, um, if I got...these items, uh, to final, part 2 to
complete...I got that to you by Thursday...could we have it, and we looked at a different
date, didn't we, Marian? The possibility by the following Wednesday.
Karr/ We looked at...we talked about June 10th so the compilation could go in the 12th packet.
So that (both talking)
Bailey/ 11th packet.
Karr/ The 11th packet, excuse me. The 10th.
Bailey/ So you guys could get the compilation with your packets on the 11th, could you, um, in
less than a week turn this around? (several talking) Okay, so it'll be June 4th then June
10th by end of day. I'll pick those up and get those back. I think that's doable, by um, got
a packet on the 11th. And, if that's the case, we could have the evaluations as early as the
15th, 16th rather than waiting to the end of the month.
Champion/ Right. That's good. We could do it before a Council meeting or...
Bailey/ Yeah.
Champion/ Or before a work session.
Bailey/ Yeah, and my thought was that we would have a little time for us to, um, review the, like
on Monday review the draft compilation, make sure that we're all onboard with that, if
there would be changes, then we would change those for Tuesday, and do the evaluations
on Tuesday.
Hayek/ sounds like a plan.
Bailey/ Okay. Did you get that, Marian?
Karr/ iJh-huh.
Bailey/ Okay, that works...I (mumbled) that works for you guys too, right? Okay.
Champion/ So we'll meet like a half hour before the work session?
Bailey/ You guys prefer to meet for evaluations before or after? Sometimes after, uh, a meeting
is (mumbled) be really tired, but sometimes it's hard for people to get here early enough
to do two.
Champion/ Oh, I see.
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Correia/ For after.
Karr/ (several commenting) unless we do...I was going to say...
Bailey/ We could do one on Monday evening (both talking)
Karr/ One on Monday and one on Tuesday.
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Bailey/ If the compilations are...if the compilation doesn't need a lot of editing. (several talking)
Wright/ It kind of depends on our agenda.
Bailey/ Right. Can we have a light agenda on that Tuesday? Let's have a light agenda.
Helling/ It already looks like it's going to be light.
Bailey/ (several talking)
Wright/ ...light agenda I think after would work fine.
Champion/ We could do one on the...
Bailey/ The challenge is, you'll get the compilations on Thursday, so if...if there are changes in
the compilation document...
Karr/ How 'bout this.. .
Bailey/ yes, what?
Karr/ Since there's some unknowns, why don't we schedule...why don't we plan on an executive
session on both nights, if by any chance (several responding) you can get one done one
night. I'm going to be here anyway, and if not, then we simply won't need the executive
session on, uh, Tuesday night and instead of adjourn to executive session, you just
adjourn the formal.
Bailey/ And we will have...
Correia/ Wait a minute. I'm getting confused.
Bailey/ Well, no...I...
Correia/ I thought Monday night we were meeting to...amongst ourselves and Tuesday we were
meeting (several talking)
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Bailey/ If there wasn't a lot of change to the compilation or I'll have an electronic copy. We can
make changes, print it off, take care (both talking)
Karr/ You'll know...you'll know on the 10th and 11th, but not before the packet comes out, so
that's why if we schedule both options, it leaves you the total flexibility to do that, and
you'll know then...on the 15th.
Champion/ Yeah, sounds good, Marian.
Bailey/ Okay? Any other questions or comments about this process? Good. That's taken care
of.
Wright/ Thank you for your work on that.
Bailey/ And thank you for the work that you (mumbled). Okay, um, we talked about schedule
pending. Upcoming community events and Council invitations. Amy announced the
event, um, summer kick-off bar-b-que. I think we're also running special bus for Arts
Fest. I saw a press release today so that would be nice (several talking)
Helling/ Saturday service will be free bus service.
Bailey/ Yeah, Saturday...(several talking) so, um...isn't Sunday kids' day though? Saturday's
kids' day. Global Village...okay. Good. Okay, any other upcoming community events,
Council invitations?
Wright/ ICARE pancake breakfast.
Champion/ Oh, right!
Bailey/ Yeah, and there are opportunities still available to volunteer. I talked to Erica, um, Erica
Pullen (several talking) at MECCA, and she...she had some shifts left, and then later that
afternoon on Sunday is also the ribbon cutting at Fire Station #2, for the ribbon cutting
around 2:00. (several talking) 1:30...1:30. Actually (mumbled) anything else? It's
going to be a busy weekend. Anything else? We have a meeting tomorrow night.
(several talking) Okay, um, anything we need to discuss with the meeting schedules? I
think we took care of that. Okay, thank you, see you tomorrow night.
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