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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2003-04-07 TranscriptionItem 2a Page ITEM 2a. Lehman: Champion: O'Donnell: Lehman: Kanner: Champion: O'Donnell: (laughter) Lehman: O'Dormell: Pfab: Wilbum: P fab: CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CITY CODE TITLE 14, CHAPTER 6, ENTITLED "ZONING," ARTICLE B, ENTITLED "ZONING DEFINITIONS," SECTION 1, ENTITLED "PERMITTED ACCESSORY USES AND BUILDINGS." (FIRST CONSIDERATION) (reads item) Move first consideration. Second Move by Champion, seconded by O'DonneI1. Discussion. I have a little concern. We had one letter in our packet I believe at least one, maybe there were more that I overlooked, concern of 11 children sometimes being overwhelming to neighbors and I think we have a need for neighborhood childcare centers but 11 might be the right number. Sixteen might get to be a little too overwhelming for neighborhoods and I was wondering if anyone else had any comments from people in the community or any other thoughts on that. I frequently have 16 children in my home after school ... Yea, but they were all your own. I haven't had any comments from anybody. Has anybody else had any? I have not other than the letter in the packet. Just the one letter. I was going to try and contact the person but I couldn't get an address or phone number. The folks that have spoken with me were concerned or looked at this as a positive. This having you know possibly creating some good opportunities for some child care providers that they trust and have confidence in their ability. So I support it, I think if folks do have concerns about what's going on at these sites then perhaps they can give a contact out to the Department of Human Services for monitors and license the daycares. I'm certainly going to support it. When I was on the Johnson County Board of Social Welfare the childcare is one of the most, affordable childcare in the area that it will work, is such a big demand for so many. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 7, 2003. Item 2a Page 2 So much of the income group, not such the low income it's up there pretty high, and anything that we can do to make it easier for these individuals and small units to work I'm going to support it. And if there's problems we'll look into them as we go. Lehman: Okay, other discussion? Roll call. (all ayes) This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 7, 2003. Item 2b Page 3 ITEM 2b. Lehman: O'Donnell: Pfab: Lehman: Champion: Lehman: Karmer: Franklin: Ann Freerks: Franklin: Don Anciaux: Lehman: Franklin: Lehman: CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE REZONING 2.8 ACRES FROM FACTORY BUILT HOUSING RESIDENTIAL (RFBH) TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT HOUSING OVERLAY 12 (OPDH-12) AND AN OPDH PLAN FOR SADDLEBROOK ADDITION PART 2 LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF HEINZ ROAD EAST OF PADDOCK BOULEVARD. (REZ02-00019) (SECOND CONSIDERATION) (read item) Move second consideration. Second. Moved by O'Donnell, seconded by Pfab. Discussion. I'd like to point out that we have done a lot of these expedited considerations this summer in this format and the reason for the public is because we have a lot of months that we've only had one meeting...(can't hear) in December and this last month. So I think this would be an appropriate thing to do this. Right. Other discussion. Karen, can you remind me again why Ann voted no on this, please? I think I can and I'll ask Ann Freerks to back me up or correct me if I'm wrong. Ann Bovbjerg voted against this. It had to do with the placement of two, three or four units, I don't remember the exact number, back behind the other units and she just wanted to have fewer units (can't hear) she didn't like that particular arrangement. Is my recollection. Does that sound right? (can't hear) This is Saddlebrook. Saddlebrook, yea. Is was the density she was objecting too. We have to speak into the mic or you'll have to reiterate what she says. The density evidently was the issue. The number of units, and I think the location of them too was an issue for her. Okay? Other discussion? Roll call. (all ayes) This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 7, 2003. Item 2b Page 4 Karr: Lehman: O'Donn¢ll: Pfab: Lehman: Motion to accept correspondence. Do we have a motion to accept correspondence? So moved. Second. Moved by O'Donnell, seconded by Pfab. All those in favor (all ayes) Opposed. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 7, 2003. Item 3 Page 5 ITEM 3. Lehman: Wilburn: Vanderhoef: Lehman: Wilbum: Pfab: Dilkes: Helling: Pfab: Helling: CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 10, ENTITLED "USE OF PUBLIC WAYS," CHAPTER 3, "COMMERCIAL USE OF SIDEWALKS," BY AMENDING SECTION 1, ENTITLED "DEFINITIONS," TO INCLUDE MOBILE VENDING CART AND MOBILE VENDOR; AMENDING TITLE 10, CHAPTER 3, SECTION 4, ENTITLED "NUMBER OF PERMITS; USE LIMITATIONS, EXCLUDING SIDEWALK CAFES," TO EXCLUDE MOBILE VENDING CARTS; AMENDING TITLE 10, CHAPTER 3, SECTION $ BY RENUMBERING IT AS SECTION 6; AMENDING TITLE 10, CHAPTER 3 TO ADD A NEW SECTION 5, ENTITLED "USE BY MOBILE VENDORS" TO ALLOW MOBILE VENDING CARTS ON IOWA AVENUE; AND AMENDING TITLE 10, CHAPTER 5, SECTION 9-A-3(d) TO CHANGE THE PERMITTED DIMENSIONS OF VENDING CARTS (FIRST CONSIDERATION) ffead item) Moved first consideration. Second. Moved by Wilburn, seconded by Vanderhoef. Discussion. I think it's a good idea and these go on the north side it allows four and any chance we can take to maximize the amenities use of Iowa Avenue I support. Could someone, Kafin, could you speak about how this came to be? I'm for it but I'm not able quite to figure out if you only have two why can't you put some on the south side too? This is Steve's or Dale's. I can speak to that Irvin. Okay. Essentially what we've had in the past is five, a maximum of five carts, on the Plaza and Iowa Avenue was constructed to accommodate these carts. We had talked about this last year but thought we'd wait and see how that works out. There's a lot of pedestrian traffic. There's somepeople interested in them. We have a total of seven applicants this year. Our suggestion regardless of the number of applicants was to add two to Iowa Avenue and it just works out with seven that we can do that this year. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 7, 2003. Item 3 Page 6 Pfab: Helling: Pfab: Wilbum: HelIing: Kanner: Pfab: O'Donnell: Lehman: They're good applications and they appear to be quality carts and so it seemed like the time to do it. So seven, the number seven isn't cast in stone? No, nor is the number five. But just as a matter of policy we've done that just to keep the numbers down to a manageable level and to not have the place collaborated with carts. But we'll keep five on the Plaza and two on Iowa Avenue this year. It looked to me because of the wide space there that certainly wouldn't hurt anything. As a gateway to the City coming off Interstate 80 it certainly would give a informality part, make the edge of the City a little softer sort of speak, when they are there. That's my thoughts. Dale, and the carts can not be stored on Iowa Avenue. They have to be No, just like the other carts. They have to be stored off the public right-of- way. Yea, I think while there's a benefit to these carts, and I support them also, I think that one of the main arguments you hear against them in many cities is that people with spaces, permanent space in buildings, feel that they might be losing building business to people that don't have that much overhead costs and investment. So I think there is some validity do that and we have to watch that but I don't think we are approaching that point. I'm going to tell you a little story that I hear a long, long time ago. It says if the shoe store in town doesn't have enough business what they should do is try to get another shoe store to come in across the street. It works. So these carts all have shoes? We're not selling shoes offthe carts. Any other discussion? Roll call (all ayes) This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of April 7, 2003.