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Council Present: Alter,Bergus,Dunn (via Zoom),Harmsen, Taylor, Teague, Thomas
Staff Present: From,Kilburg, Goers, Grace,Platz,Knoche,Havel, Sovers,Van Dyke,
Nagle-Gamm,Hightshoe, Seydell Johnson,Ford
Others Present: LeFevre,USG Liaison
1. Call to Order
Teague: It is 6:00 P.M. on August 1,2023, and I'm gonna call the City of Iowa City Meeting to
order. Roll call please. (Roll Call) All right,well, welcome to your City Hall to those of
you that are in person, and to those that are virtual,hello as well. And we have Councilor
Dunn virtual tonight as well, so we can hear you clearly. So welcome to you.
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8. Community Comment(items not on the agenda)
Teague: We are on to item number 8,which is Community Comment. This is an opportunity for
anyone to talk about an item that is not on our agenda. So if you wish to come forth,um,
you can sign in at the desk or there are stickers in the back. You will be allowed three
minutes,up to three minutes to speak. And we welcome you at this time. And this is your
opportunity to speak to Council. We can, Council will not engage in in discussion back-
and-forth,but welcome.
Perez: My name is Kevin Perez. I live at 161 Columbia Drive. Um, I just uh, I'm gonna share a
little bit of history with you about myself because that's what I know. Moved here in
1985. Did go to school. In 1992,my wife and I and my brother opened a business called
The Peaceful Fool up in Hall Mall. In the year 2000,we opened One Twenty Six at 126
East Washington. I opened that with Derek and- and Lisa also for...hn sorry, I just
scribbled some stuff down here, so I apologize. In- in our course of opening One Twenty
Six,we were uh kind of the original, started uh the patio outdoor dining with Alice at the
time,but we kind of started the whole thing that's now closing streets and what not. Uh,
in 2002, I opened the Monkey House in Sycamore Mall. You lose some and you win
some. Uh that was a loss. Uh 2007 we opened Mama's Deli, 2008 we opened Short's
Burger and Shine. In 2010,we opened Stella in University Heights. In 2012,we opened
Short's on the east side, 2017 we opened Hudson's Southside Tap. In 2019, I opened
Short's in Marion. Uh we survived COVID. We have a small farm three miles east of
town where we grow a couple thousand,4,000, 5,000 pounds of vegetables that we use at
our restaurants. I've paid over $1 million in property taxes. I've hired 1,000-over 1,000
employees. I currently have over 100 employees. The restaurants have raised and donated
over $100,000, at least,to a lot of the local uh,mostly out at Eastside and Hudson's,but
to local you know, students,usually high-school and younger organizations. I've lived in
the same house in Iowa City for 25 years. I coached teams. I- all three of my kids
graduated from City High, and I've worked really hard. Last Tuesday the City of Iowa
City took my patio off the front of Short's Burger and Shine. Uh they had-this-they did
this despite having a notarized signatures from the landlord who was you know, and a
completed application and the money. And they unilaterally decided to take the patio
away and send back my check. In turn,they hurt my business,they hurt the people that
work for me. They've caused way too much stress for me you know, I've got enough
things to worry about in my life than whether these guys have taken my patio. But
anyway, I know my time is up,but.
Teague: Thank you.
Perez: Thank you.
Teague: Welcome.
Ross: That's a really good guy. You should have given him some more minutes. I'm already-hey
wait,whoa,whoa,whoa,two minutes and 50 seconds?First of all,yeah you should give
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more time than the three minutes to those who might need a minute or two. That's my
suggestion for the Council for today. I would like to read a statement by Harold Pinter,
considered the greatest playwright of his generation,who upon accepting the Nobel Prize
in 2005, said the-these words. "The United States supported, and in many cases
engendered every right wing military dictatorship in the world after the end of the Second
World War. I refer to Indonesia, Greece,Uruguay,Brazil, Paraguay,Haiti, Turkey,
Philippines, Guatemala,El Salvador, and of course, Chile. The horror the United States
inflicted upon Chile in 1973 can never be purged, can never be forgiven. Hundreds of
thousands of deaths took place throughout these countries. Did they take place?Are they
in all cases attributed to the US policy? The answer is yes they did take place and they are
attributable to the United States foreign policy. But you wouldn't know it. It never
happened.Nothing ever happened. Even while it was happening, it wasn't happening. It
didn't matter. It was of no interest. The crimes of the United States have been systematic,
constant,vicious,remorseless. But very few people have actually talked about them. You
have to hand it to America. It has exercised a quite clinical manipulation of power
worldwide while masquerading as a force for universal good. It's brilliant,witty,highly
successful act of hypnosis."Harold Pinter, 2005. Since then I would now add to those
conflicts. Yugoslavia, Iraq,Afghanistan,Libya, Syria,Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan. We
could also add Rwanda and Congo. And today we can add Ukraine. The US is not
helping right now in Ukraine,which is a right wing government that's attacked the east of
Ukraine for nine years. And the only way to stop this war is for us to call, write our
Congress people and demand, demand that this thing end. This could have ended a year
ago,but the US wanted to sell arms. So I'm telling everybody who's listening,please
connect with all your politicians that you can. And demand peace,which is what we
need. Thank you so much.
Teague: Thank you. Anyone else like to.
Ross: For the three minutes.
Teague: Anyone else like to address a topic that's not on our agenda?Welcome.
Perez: Tag, I'm it I guess. My name is Derek Perez.
Teague: And what city are you from?
Perez: I'm from Iowa City and I live on 2716 Brookside Drive. And I just don't think my brother
got through this all, so,um, and I'm not sure how this works. I've never been here before.
I don't know why I'm,uh,would have to do this,but I guess I'm here to ask or to add that,
um, I guess in general, at what point does,um,the City--and I guess I'm not sure if you
guys respond to this or not--but,um, after being in business and,you know,working
pretty hard myself,uh, for years and getting through the pandemic and the things, like
who-when-who unilate-unilaterally decides to do something like take away an
opportunity to-to,um, add to the economy. I mean, I doesn't- doesn't make a whole lot of
sense. We've got 20,30,40 people working in all these businesses. My businesses as well
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are fine,but who knows when the City will,uh, combine and take something away from
me? I think it's important to know that,uh,when he followed the law, did exactly what he
was supposed to do, and then the City comes and takes his patio way and throws it in the
dump. I mean,you had to pay for that. And who will you guys just-will you guys
respond to this and when you do, I don't know how or when you'd respond to it. Is it-is it
just,uh, it says I guess I'm asking- I'm just supposed to speak. Can I get clarification?Are
you guys gonna respond?
Teague: Yeah.Now you can speak to the Council,but certainly you can follow up with staff and
we can also follow up with you.
Perez: Okay. Because I would really- I think it's important as-to know if you guys are even
aware that this happened,that the City has taken away somebody's property and thrown it
in the garbage. I think it's important that somebody should speak to,the City Manager or
the Attorney, and find out exactly what happened considering as much work as we've
done to,you know, increase the property taxes and increase the revenue that comes into
the City and pays the salaries of the people that run the City,that it's important. It's
important for us to know that you guys are,uh, looking out for the best interest of the
people that do this work. That's what I have to say. Thank you.
Teague: Thank you. Anyone else like to address a topic that's not on our agenda? Seeing no one
in person or online. I'm going to close the public comment section.
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9. Regular Formal Agenda
9.a. Mercer Park and City Park Court Renovation—Resolution approving
project manual and estimate of cost for the construction of the Mercer Pak and City
Park Court Renovation Project,establishing amount of bid security to accompany
each bid, directing City Clerk to post notice to bidders,and fixing time and place for
receipt of bids.
Teague: We're gonna go on to item number 9,which is regular formal agenda 9a is Mercer Park
and City Park Court Renovation. Resolution approving project manual and estimate of
cost for the construction of the Mercer Park and City Park Court Renovation Project,
establishing amount of bid security to accompany each bid, directing City Clerk to post
notice to bidders, and fixing time and place for receipt of bids. I'm gonna open the public
hearing, and welcome.
1. Public Hearing
Seydell Johnson: Hi,Mayor and Council. Juli Seydell-Johnson,Parks and Recreation Director,
here to talk to you about this project. Um,the fust thing I just want to mention on this
project,you may remember it originally started and also included the baseball fields at
Mercer Park. Um,that's been split off from the project for this time,uh,mainly because
we're working with the school district on some additional things that they would like to
see done at the baseball area. So that part of the project will still happen but will be
delayed as a separate bid. So it's only pickleball and tennis courts that we're talking about
tonight. The fust one I'll talk about is Mercer Park. You can see right now we have eight
pickleball and three tennis. This was just a resurfacing that was done about six years ago.
This was at the very start of what became-has become a pickleball craze out there. Um,
we didn't know much about what was needed on all the pickleball courts. So some of the
things that will change with this renovation--the current courts have a fair amount of
cracking and different things happening, so we will be tearing them up down to the
subsurface, starting out with a new layer of- of pavement on them. We switched the-
around so we'll put the tennis courts to the south and we'll end up with nine pickleball
courts. The big thing that changes with this though, is that there's walking aisles between
each row of the pickleball courts and they'll now be 10-foot fences in several of the areas.
So right now we just have low fences and some other things that have been problematic.
This should give them better playing surfaces and a better playing experience.New
fences,new windscreens, and we're going to use slats in the fences. The lighting will
actually stay the same as what's there. We'll just be able to redirect the lights and reuse
those. So is there any questions on the Mercer side before we go to City Park?
Harmsen: What's the timing on this?
Seydell Johnson: We'll get to that in just a second.
Harmsen: Okay.
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Seydell Johnson: Okay. City park- six tennis courts there, a lot of tennis use there.Not as much
at Mercer, especially now with the City High project that's happened for tennis. But City
Park is still very strong in tennis courts. So this project as you can see right now, it's six
tennis courts and there's that little tiny basketball area just on the edge of that. This
project will rebuild the six courts. We will add pickleball lines to this project,but they'll
remain primarily tennis courts with a practice area or practice wall as well. The
basketball court rotates and with both projects,we're getting better paved accessibility
paths to the actual items. And that's one of the things that the realignment of the
basketball court does in this place. So bids are due August 22. We hope to award
contracts September 5, and then construction later this fall and early spring. Questions?
Teague:None at all. Thank you so much. All right. Anyone from the public like to address this
topic? Seeing no one in person or online, I'm gonna close the public hearing.
2. Consider a Resolution
Teague: Can I get a motion to approve,please?
Harmsen: So moved. Harmsen.
Taylor: Second Taylor.
Teague: Council discussion.
Harmsen: Just a quick. Thank you. I have a teen- at least one teenager in my house who spend-
he and his buddies spend 2-3 nights a week out there on the tennis and pickleball courts
and they'll be excited to hear about the renovation, so.
Alter: I just wanted to say thanks to all of the people who,this was, gosh,within the fust six
months of my coming on as an elected,the pickleball clubs in the area invited me out to
take a look, and then also really graciously just explained with a huge amount of passion
and enthusiasm about the play itself,but then also really what the needs were. And just
over time, it went from yeah,yeah,we'll resurface. I'm not saying it dismissively,but
from we will resurface to really understanding that this is,um,needs more attention. And
so kudos to Parks and Rec,but then also for the advocates who've been in there from the
beginning talking about what they needed. So good.
Teague: It's a great project. So, thanks to all the staff. All right. Nine, oh no,we're at, so roll-
call,please. (Roll Call) Motion passes 7-0.
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9.b. North First Avenue Improvements—Resolution approving project manual
and estimate of cost for the construction of the North First Avenue Improvements
Project,establishing amount of bid security to accompany each bid, directing City
Clerk to post notice to bidders,and fixing time and place for receipt of bids.
Teague: Item number 9b is North First Avenue improvements,resolution approving project
manual and estimate of cost for the construction of the North First Avenue Improvements
Project, establishing amount of bid security to accompany each bid, directing City Clerk
to post notice to bidders, and fixing time and place for a receipt of bids. I'm going to open
the public hearing. And welcome.
1. Public Hearing
Van Dyke: Yeah. Good evening Council. Marri Van Dyke,Engineering Division. So this project
is part of our Pavement Management Program and the project includes pavement removal
and replacement on North First Avenue. So we'll be completely reconstructing First
Avenue between Stuart Court and Hickory Trail. So that's shown in red in this map. And
that's basically the area at the bottom of the hill,north of Rochester and south of Scott
Boulevard. So this gives you an idea of what current pavement-pavement conditions
look like. So as you can see, it's pretty rough. We looked at doing just a patching project
instead of the full reconstruction,but there's so few panels that would be worth saving
that we determined that it would make more sense to just go ahead and do the full
reconstruction. The project will be split into three phases so that we can maintain access
to residents. Each phase should go fairly quickly because there's no major utility
improvements with the project. It's mostly just the paving and then some minor storm
sewer work. And then we'll also be updating the curb ramps at the Stuart Court
intersection so that they are ADA compliant. Schedule for the project is to open bids
August 22, award the contract September 5, and then construction would be between
September and November this fall. The estimated construction cost is $475,000. That's
kind of the brief overview,but I'm happy to answer any questions.
Thomas: I- I have a question. Wa-wa-what do you,um,-what do you think is the reason for
why the road deteriorated so badly?
Van Dyke: So since it's at the bottom of the hill,potentially there could be some drainage issues.
We're going to be adding a subdrain along the sides of the road so that should help keep
the water away from the pavement. But I'm assuming that's probably the major issue
that's causing the deterioration out there.
Thomas: Because the rest of First is in pretty good shape. Just this one section.
Van Dyke: It's in much better shape,yeah.
Thomas: Thanks.
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Alter: I have a question about timing. Um,kind of a constellation of questions, I guess. First is
that you said it would be done in phases and I saw the different phases so that there'll be
access for the residents and those offshoots. Will it be through going for people going
north-south?
Van Dyke: So the plan this is to do a complete closure for north-south traffic. It's just, so kind of
where we're splitting, it's that driveway and then Stuart Court,which is a dead end.
Alter: Okay.
Van Dyke: So they'll have access either from the north or the south, depending on what phase
their in.
Alter: Okay. So embarrassing side question. When is Rochester due to be completed?
Van Dyke: So they'll be working- I don't know the complete- like the entire completion date. I
know that they will not be at the First Avenue intersection until next year,but they'll be
working in other,kind of west of First Avenue where they're at right now.
Alter: I guess I'm just thinking of sort of like two--that's going to be a mess.
Van Dyke: So we wanted to get this project out this year so that we're not overlapping at that
specific time where they're going to have closures at the intersection because that would
be worse,but I think that we'll have opportunities to kind of, our detour routes won't be
overlapping.
Alter: Do you have a sense of what the current detour route would be? I'm thinking of folks
around Regina. I mean,the amount of traffic that is on there around 8:00 in the morning
or just right before to get kids to school at Regina, it goes all the way down to the bottom
and that's when it's fully running. So I'm kind of trying to figure out what the detour
would be to get them to Regina if also Rochester is closed, even if it's not at that specific
intersection, if they can't get up to Regina.
Van Dyke: Right.
Alter: So I'm just trying to figure out the logistics because that's...
Van Dyke: Yeah, I apologize. I should have had a zoomed out map.
Alter: It's okay.
Van Dyke: But it will largely be Scott Boulevard and then I'm trying to think what's west there.
Would it be Dodge?Yeah. Dodge Street and then I guess Muscatine.
Alter: And when is Court Street closing? Sorry.
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Teague: I guess I want a clarification just to make sure to what you're saying. So Scott Boulevard
will be opened between Rochester and Dodge? Is that what I understood you saying?
Van Dyke: Yes. We won't have any impact to Scott Boulevard.
Alter: Right.
Teague: Do they just have to go up and around.
From: I know the staff recently met with Regina,has been in contact with Regina. I don't know
who is involved in that,but-
Sovers: Yeah. So Scott Sovers,Assistant City Engineer. So we did meet with Regina staff, I
think the Assistant Principal maybe, and talked through kind of access and we've got it
worked out where,you know, even during,um, construction of Rochester,there'll be able
to still access off of Rochester east. So from east- on- on Rochester, east of First Avenue
they'll still be able to get to that intersection and access Regina. So that doesn't
necessarily take care of the traffic that's north. They'll still have that-that would be
coming from the north. They'll start to use a detour route to detour around this-this
construction area.
Alter: So they go to Scott and come in on Rochester from Scott?
Sovers: Correct. Yeah.
Harmsen: How long is the actual- I know you have a time window,but how long will they actual
closure last?
Sovers: What do we have in the contract,recall?
Van Dyke: Well,we gave them 40 working days. But it should be-. so that's like-
Teague: Will you come to the mic,please.
Van Dyke: Sorry. It would be three months-ish total for all three phases.
Teague: Any other questions for staff? Thank you. Anyone from the public like to address this
topic? Seeing no one in person or online, I'm going to close the public hearing.
2. Consider a Resolution
Teague: Can I get a motion to approve?
Bergus: So moved,Bergus.
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Thomas: Second, Thomas.
Teague: Council discussion.
Taylor: Having just gone through,very close to my neighborhood,the Benton Street
reconstruction, I can appreciate this. Because several comments from my neighbors on
how nice it is. It really is beautiful, it's smooth.Now they allowed for like one line at a
time. It wasn't totally closed and it's not quite finished yet,but it's a very lovely- lovely
project. And- and Benton was not nearly as in bad of shape as what those pictures you
showed for First Avenue,but they also did,besides a full reconstruction,were some
storm- storm sewers and water drainage kinds of things. But it moved along pretty well,
but they had pretty good weather. So- so,yeah,this will be a good project. It'll be
wonderful. People appreciate it when it's done.
Alter: I just have to say that I think this is going to be really rough and we're going to hear a lot
about it. I mean we've got, I forgot, on the west side we've got Benton,just we've got the
Rochester, Court Street is going to start. I mean,these are all major thoroughfares for
school and for work. And I realize that pavement doesn't have its own-you know, it's not
going to align it's needs to our calendar per se,but this is just really unfortunate.
Harmsen: Yeah. I mean,that's...
Alter: I really wish we could get this.
Harmsen: One done.
Alter: Coordinated better.
Harmsen: Yeah. I mean, if Rochester was opened before that was closed, and then like the North
Governor coming down over to Dodge or North Governor,then you could pop over to
Rochester,but going all the way down like Muscatine and Court Street and then back
around. That's,that's going to be, it's going to be a bit tight and absolutely necessary
project. I drive along,you know,not probably as often as you do,but quite often. And so
yeah, it's in rough shape,needs to be-needs to be fixed and it's good that it'll be fixed
right with the substrata that'll keep it from deteriorating again. Um yeah.
Bergus: Just a reminder. If people take our free buses,they will detour and then you can read a
book or do your email while you're avoiding the roadwork.
Fruin: Yeah. Just to remind Council, certainly this is why we come to you. If you're not
comfortable with the level of construction that we have and you think that's going to be
too much,we can hold off and we can do this at a later date. There's never a good time
for it. You know, in the spring,we'll get a lot of complaints about the condition of the
road. We'll do our best to patch it. And,uh, and then,you know,there'll be other projects.
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It'll be competing with Court Street down the road. As it's planned right now this won't,
this won't overlap with Court Street at all. But the east side has seen a tremendous
amount of road construction. We just accepted the First Avenue-Scott Boulevard
roundabout. But we-we rely on you as- as electred leaders to kind of take that
temperature at times. And if we think we're going too fast or we have the- a-a too high a
concentration of road projects at any given one time,that-that's your prerogative to say
let's hold off on this.
Harmsen: Would there be any benefit to next summer when it mean when it's not in school. Um,
during that gap. I know you'd said that Rochester,that project will be moving closer to
the First Avenue intersection. But what's the kind of pros and cons of looking at.
Fruiin: Yeah. I'll have Ron come up or Scott and talk through that.
Knoche: Ron Knoche,Public Works Director. The issue at hand is going to be the gap between
the two projects and getting folks in and out because we'll be in the intersection of First
Avenue and Rochester next year reconstructing that intersection. So we- I mean, it'd- it'd
be better to get this project out of the way,that way we can maintain access to the folks in
that area.
Harmsen: That reconstruction, does that go all the way across the First Avenue intersection on
Rochester?
Knoche: The,the,the intersection, and so we'll be under construction there and then we'll have
the closure to the north. It- it'll- it'll make it more challenging to get folks in and out.
Harmsen: Oh, for the people that are living in that, in those neighborhoods. I was going to say
otherwise,.
Alter: Yeah.
Harmsen: Close them at the same time and rip the band-aid off,but I see there's people that are
trapped in between.
Knoche: Right,their trapped in the middle.
Harmsen: Okay. I think I understand that better.
Fruin: A reminder of the grid street pattern,the benefits there when you don't have it.
Alter: Yeah.
Harmsen: Yeah.
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Alter: Although there's Hickory what's that new street Hickory that comes out on Scott. It's
an outlet.
Knoche: That's on the north side of this project.
Alter: Yeah. That was going to say it doesn't help in this one.
Knoche: It helps those folks,but the folks that are stuck in the middle...
Harmsen: Yeah,Bluffwoold.
Knoche: Yeah
Alter: So and I- I don't like to micromanage honestly,but I'm just concerned. It's- it's not even
like the volume of- of construction, it's just these particular projects and the timing of it
with school. And so you're projecting-not projecting,your saying,that the-the Rochester
First Ave is going to be closed for reconstruction next summer? Can you give an
approximation of like what the month would be?What's the plan?
Knoche: It'll- it'll take most of sum, I mean take it'll take most of a construction season for us to
get to that area.
Alter: When is construct,when does construction season start, like,when you can really start
doing work?
Knoche: April 15 is kind of the beginning of the construction season per se,but I mean, it
depends on the weather.
Alter: Yeah. Just thinking if there is a way that you could postpone this,well, I don't know. April
doesn't help any for school.
Harmsen:No.
Taylor: I think it's- it's like Geoff said,there's no real good time for it anytime. I mean we
continually get comments from the public about the,when you gonna fix these potholes?
When you gonna fix these roads? So.
Alter: On the flip side,we've got already got one chunk of the east side saying,why can't I access
anything?And why don't I have a thoroughway way so, I mean,you're absolutely right.
Sorry. I didn't mean to sound submissive. You're totally right. It's one or the other. We're
going to get it both ways. It's just this really seems. I know what the concentration level is
of people using First Ave to get to Regina or to get south. And so to do that like when
there's school is just the part that made me go,whoa, so.
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Knoche: And I think the-you know, staff has reached out. I mean there's been some coordination
efforts with Regina already in regards to the access, and I think we can continue with the
Communications Department and make sure we get that messaging out so folks know
you know,where they access points are gonna be at and- and understand kind of where-
where they need to go to be able to get there for this, for this fall as we move forward. If
we move forward with the project.
Fruin: What you can do, I mean, certainly if you want to press pause now,you shouldn't feel bad
about that. That's-that's okay. We will bid this and you'll have to accept those bids. And
at that time we can come and present to you a more- a more precise estimate on timeline
for this project,more information on the detours and the coordination with Regina, and
then also be prepared to give you the latest on the Rochester project. We can work with
the contractor, I presume,to-to project out the best that we can. And you all know that
timelines change with-with weather and all kinds of different variables. But,um, if
you're comfortable enough proceeding at this point,we can present you more at the- at
the at the award stage,um, if that's of interest.
Harmsen: I think that would be helpful.
Bergus: I think it stings,but there's never a time when it won't. And I would prefer we get the
road repaired and work through on the details as Geoff mentioned. We can look at it
more closely if we need to at that point,but I would hate to delay this,you know, even
the idea of getting the bids.
Alter: But are we in a position to delay once we've gotten a bid?
Teague:No.
Alter: Right.
Teague: Once,well...
Alter: Once a bid as awarded then we're...
Fruin: Yeah.
Alter: ...locked in,right?
Fruin: But you have to award the bid.
Harmsen: We could not award the bid.
Alter: Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah. Well, I guess I'm going to let folks know that I'm not
going to vote in favor of this. And part of the reason for it is, as I've said,my hesitations,
but also understanding that I could vote no later on, once actually we've got more skin in
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the game, I- I would feel worse about that. So I guess this is a protest vote, if you will.
But, ah, and I recognize,this is not a knock on the department and you're doing,you
know, this is, our roads are a major source of contention and frustration. So I know it has
to be done and there is no good time. But this one just stings an awful lot given how
much volume there is and in spite of talking with Regina,that's-that's my rationale,but,
um, I'm not willing to do this at a point where, ah, a bid has already been awarded. So I
just wanted to let people know in advance what my logic is for what my vote is-will be.
Teague: If no other comments,roll-call,please. (Roll Call) Motion passes 6-1.
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9.c. Setting Fines for Criminal Disorderly House Violations—Ordinance amending
Title 8,Entitled"Police Regulations," Chapter 5,Entitled "Miscellaneous Offenses,"
to specify the criminal penalty for disorderly house violations. (First Consideration).
Teague: We are on to item number 9c, setting fines for criminal disorderly house violations-
Ordinance amending Title 8 entitled Police Regulations, Chapter 5 entitled Miscellaneous
Offenses,to specify the criminal penalty for disorderly house violations. This is the fust
consideration.
1. Consider an Ordinance (first consideration)
Teague: Can I get a motion,please?
Alter: So moved to Alter.
Thomas: Second Thomas.
Teague: Alright. And Eric Goers.
Goers: Thank you,Mayor. So some criminal procedure and I'll try not to drag it out--when you
get a speeding ticket, it's usually a scheduled fine. And by that I mean,the penalty is set,
it's written right in your ticket. If you plead guilty or you're found guilty, it'll be $100 fine
plus cost and surcharge,whatever it is. And on the bottom of the ticket,when the officer
asks you to sign it,the officer is not asking you to admit to guilt or anything like that.
You are signing for an unsecured appearance bond. And what that means is, if you fail to
appear for court,judgment will just be entered against you for a little bit of a higher
amount,but that would be the end of it.No warrant for your arrest or anything like that.
That is not done with unscheduled fines. And again,unscheduled meaning that there's a
range of penalties that the,uh,magistrate judge would impose. Those range presently
between $105 and $855 plus cost and surcharge. One such unscheduled penalty is for
disorderly house, a city charge of disorderly house. There are a number of ways to
commit disorderly house,but the vast majority of that we encounter are for loud parties,
you know,neighbors are calling and complaining about the party and the noise that's
coming from it next door. The problem that we've been encountering has been a ticket
will be issued, a trial date will be set, and then the defendant will fail to appear. Well,
there is no unsecured appearance bond right now. So what happens as a result is
oftentimes a warrant is issued for the arrest of the defendant. You know there's no jail
time available, so that seems inappropriate to us, or at least is not the outcome certainly
that we're looking for. But it's kind of the only tool in the toolbox left for the judge
because,you know,you can't just keep saying please to the defendant and hope that they
show up the next time. Because of course now we're again paying the officer overtime
pay to show up for a second trial date. If there are civilian witnesses involved,we're
having them come back, it's inconvenient for everyone. So by setting,uh, a scheduled
fine, and,um,there are different fines for a fust offense, second offense, and a third
offense, so that we can still have some of that range. If it's a problematic defendant--and I
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should add that probably 90 or 95% of officer calls too loud party um, calls for service,
result in a warning,not a ticket. And so if you're getting a ticket,you've already, it's been
pretty egregious or you've been warned and you're still doing it anyway. But we still
have,you know, a fust offense, second offense,third offense, so that there's some
gradation and the penalty. But if the defendant fails to appear,the judge can just enter
unsecured appearance bond.No warrant is issued for the defendant's arrest and it's done.
Everyone's moving on. And so that's why we're proposing this ordinance amendment to
you to schedule them at fust offense $300, second offense 5 now- $500,third offense
$855, and thus avoid any warrant ever having to issue for the arrest of a defendant. I'd be
happy to answer any questions you folks have about any of that.
Bergus: How many of our scheduled offenses have um- are kind of at this top end of the-the fee
schedule. You said 855 is the highest,which is what it would be for the third offense
here.
Goers: Right.
Bergus: Or what other types of offenses?
Goers: Well, I'm trying to think so for example. Well, I'm not- I mean,that- that's high. Uh, and
again, for a third offense. Obviously,possession of alcohol under the legal age has
escalating penalties. Um- I'm trying to recall if the under 21 ordinance has escalating
penalties as well, I believe it may. Um,but those are the two that spring to mind. Most of
the um, simple misdemeanor charges that we have,we're just mirroring um, a state
charge, like speeding, for example. In those situations,we have to adopt whatever the
state penalty is. Well, crimes like disorderly house and under 21 and so forth are of our
own creation and so we set whatever penalty we want for those. Um, and so there aren't
too many where we have any kind of say at all, frankly,but those are the ones that spring
to mind where we've got some kind of escalating penalties.
Bergus: Do you know how we arrived at the 300, 500, 855?
Goers: Well, a fair question. Ah,we- we wanted to make sure we had some progression. And we
thought that if you are a defendant and you've gotten to the third offence,you've- I mean
for awhile we used to have magistrates who would say,you know, "Boy, on a second
offense, I'm going to max out the finen a second because you're not learning",you
know. Um, and obviously changing the behavior is what we're looking to achieve here.
Um,but no,there's no-there's no magic to those numbers. Those numbers could be
anything. Again,between 155, or 105 and 855 because that's the statutory range for a
simple misdemeanor in Iowa,but they could be a different number if Council wishes.
Bergus: I don't have a specific number in mind,nor am I trying to say these are the wrong
numbers. It's just that it is on the high-end and the justification for this change in part was
worth saving ourselves some time and energy,right by not having to, for example,have
an officer appear for trial repeatedly and that kind of thing. So it- it just struck me as like,
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why, and disorderly house does is not a um, it's typically a offense of,you know,where
the those who would be in the position of being victims are,you know,that kind of harm
isn't-you know, it's not of a level that might be where we would kind of put that top
number for the offense. But I see some skepticism. That's why we're having this
conversation. And I know-and I also know this is in the simple misdemeanor realm, and
so it's not like there aren't penalties that are higher than this,but just poking at that high-
end a little bit.
Goers: You're talking about on the third offense?
Bergus: Correct.
Goers: Yeah.
Teague: Any other questions for Eric?
Harmsen: Out of curiosity about how many of these do we see in a typical year?
Goers: Boy, I don't have that information available and I'm not prosecuting these myself
anymore, so I'm afraid I'm not sure. I can certainly get that information for you.
Harmsen: It just that it's not critical.
Taylor: And these fines would go uh,to the owner of the building. Say it's like an apartment or a
house with students in it,but the owner of the home is out-of-state, doesn't even live in
the area,but they're-the one that receives the fine and the notice.
Goers:No. It would be the possessor,which,you know, in the case of an owner-occupied
property would be the owner,but in the case of a landlord-tenant relationship, it would be
the tenant because it's them who has that,this is a criminal charge that we're talking
about, and so it's the criminal defendant who needs to have permitted the noise, either
caused the noise really what happens most of the time,but at least,you know, allowed to
exist, are permitted it to take place. And typically they have to be present. Sometimes we
have apartments where there's four roommates living there. Two of them are home in
Chicago this weekend and these remaining two are there. It's the two who are there who
will get the charge,not the two who are gone.
Taylor: Thank you.
Teague: All right. Seeing no other questions. Anyone from the public like to address this topic?
Seeing no one in-person or online. Council discussion?
Bergus: I'm just not- I'm not comfortable with the escalation and going all the way to the top. I-
I- I guess I'm just kinda take the temperature if people might be willing to lower the
numbers or keep it at 300. Um, I understand the intent for deterrence,but-I just.
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Harmsen: I think I'm more comfortable with it for a third offense. But I could see if you want an
argument to be made for the fust offense being a little lower. But I guess my sympathy
drops off. I guess if that's, I mean,kinda to be fair, um,you know,by the third time
around. So I don't have a strong feeling about this one way or the other,but that's kinda
my fust-my fust blush. I will say I like the idea of removing the necess-necessity of
issuing an arrest warrant.
Bergus: Absolutely. Yeah.
Harmsen: That happens to touch on some of our other goals. So I appreciate that. I definitely
appreciate staff bringing this to us,this idea.
Teague: I have one question. Will the-the three rates be listed on any given citation?
Goers: Well, they wouldn't list all three on the citation because at the time of issuance, it would
be-you would determine whether this is a fust offense, second offense, or third offense,
and so forth. Usually the officers will just look for calls for service on that address and
will realize, oh,wait a minute,we've been here a number of times before,um, and,you
know,hey,have you gotten previous tickets?And they can, of course, check quickly,you
know,relatively quickly to see and sometimes they miss that. And our office ends up,
you know, doing an amendment after the fact from a fust offense to a second offense, for
example, if that's what's done.
Teague: There-the only reason I asked is because if they- if it was listed,you know,when they
got there fust fust offense, like if it was listed like your second offense will be this,your
third offense will be this,um, that they're fully aware that if they continue this,you know,
that it will be higher. Um, is it possible?
Goers: Uh,well, I am aware that some officers will do that for progressive offenses. They will
just write both in,handwrite kind of the levels. Um, I think that's sometimes to cover the
different unsecured appearance bond,you know, if this is your fust offense, the
unsecured appearance bond is X, if this is your second offense then your unsecured
appearance bond is Y,that kind of thing. And perhaps for some educational component
as well. But otherwise,no. I mean, certainly we could,you know,make sure that police
are doing some education um,you know,with folks to say,hey, I'm writing you a ticket
tonight. This is for fust offense, disorderly house. Beware second offense is 500, beware
third offense is 855, and that kind of thing. Geoff was kind enough to find some statistics
about disorderly house citations. Um, some of these are gonna be skewed by the
pandemic. For example, in 2021,we issued two. That is not normal. In 19- in 2019 it was
46 it appears, in 2020 it was 29. I think that number already was starting to dip with the
pandemic,which, of course, started in March, 2 in 2021, as I mentioned, and 6 in 2022. I
would assume that it will go back to a more normal number . For example, in 2016, it
looks like there was 182. I don't know that we'll get back to that,but um, I would expect
it to go back up,but we're not issuing a ton of these right now. Thank you.
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Teague: I see Councilor Dunn's hand is up.
Dunn: Yeah, Councilor Bergus, I- I am inclined to agree with your stance on this and I'm just
wondering if you have any particular numbers in mind.
Bergus: I'd go with 105 for the fust. That's the bottom end,right?
Goers: That is the bottom end,yes. I think one of the- I'm just recalling one of the um,
considerations that went into our decision to, or proposal to set it at 300 and so forth. My
memory is that um,being in a bar under 21 is $300. And so when we look at penalties,
sometimes we try to, at least the ones that we can control that are not set by the state,
kind of try to have some parody or some understanding to make sure that,you know,we
kind of balance the offenses and the seriousness to the community and so forth, and make
sure that they don't get out of skew. Um, as I mentioned,most of the disorderly house
charges are a result of neighbors calling in and complaining. And if the tickets being
issued,they've probably been calling repeatedly in order to do so. Whereas people under
21 in a bar,we almost never have complaints about that, it's just officers will go in and a
bar check and find someone who's under age.
Thomas: I would comment too that, from what you were saying,Eric,the fust time is often a
warning. So I mean,the actual citation is probably the second encounter. So there already
is a fust one which is sort of there's a grace on the warning. So in that- in that context,the
gradation seems to me to be reasonable. Having experienced,you know,being on the
other end of this.
Alter: I think my concern is that in thinking about sort of the entire culture of the University
town, and the fact that in many of these socializing entities,um,have been shut down for,
fraternities, sororities, for um,you know, some really,really awful events. And so people
are looking more towards houses and apartments for parties, and there's less oversight
than at a bar. And so a disorderly house might end up impacting one individual,but
there's going to be many people, or maybe only a few,but there will be more people there
than not. And at least somewhat,perhaps anecdotally,but also studies have shown that
house parties end up, a lot of damage can be done and a lot of tragedies can happen. So
I'm kinda of- I am fine with it being perhaps a lesser amount for fust offense,but I do
think that actually it needs to be ranked accordingly. And I am taken by what,um,
Councilor Thomas said where there's already been probably a police presence saying,
knock it off. So I mean, I kind of think that this might be one of those like moments of
like,we tried and this is serious, and here's how we feel about this. So,um, I mean, I am
okay with lowering it. I- I don't know that I'm okay with the minimum,um, for the fust
offense,but I do think the increasing ones should be because that's a pretty problematic,
uh, situation. And I just- I think of how much effort across the board over the past 20
odd years since I've lived here,there have been about drinking culture and how can we
combat this?And to me saying,well,the fust time is not so big. I get it. When I was in
high school, somebody called the cops when my parents were gone,right?But that's not
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exactly what we're talking about here. This is about people who are college students
primarily. And there's just too many incidents of no oversight, and bad things happening.
So I think that this is something where they should understand that what they have done
is not just, er,what-evs- so anyway that's.
Harmsen: Throwing an idea out if we wanted to tweak it a little bit. What if we did 2-4-8, double
it for each offense? So you start at two, second offense it doubles,you do it again it
doubles again. Just also in terms of making the education component perhaps easier or
cleaner,rather than like,you know, 855 and,you know,having some non run-round
numbers. Again, I'm not strongly,no strong feelings about that,but if- if we're- if we'd
like to tweak it a little bit, that might have some simplicity on its side. But again, I don't
have a passionate feeling about it.
Teague: I honestly can go,um,the 300,400, 855,the 2,4, 8. Um, I think,you know,the-the
crux of what we want is for them to feel an impact and for them to, I think if they knew
what the progression would be,um, like,this is going to cost you for your second offense
and your third offense,then I think that would be um,very adv- advantageous for them.
I'm not exactly sure. At least I would,you know,have the-have the citation. I don't know
how the citation comes, if it's all handwritten,there is no specific form for like um,
disorderly conduct or disorderly house,but that would be helpful if they had some
materials, some knowledge of what the next offenses would be, even if there's just asking
officers to educate them. But I do think that if- if we can do a higher amount up front,
that might,you know, get people to think,you know, a second about it. Um, but like I
said, I can go with the three or the two. Um, I think the three,you know, at least the logic
that was just mentioned,that's the same amount that a person in the bars under 21 would
have to pay. Um, so if we're talking about one person paying that,uh,versus maybe a
couple of roommates paying 300, I think I'm comfortable. The more I talk with the 300,
the 500, and the 800, 855.
Bergus: Just to kind of bring it full circle, as I think about it, I think what I'm uncomfortable with
is, I don't necessarily,um,think that there is a good deterrent based on the fine,right?
Like when how this plays out,the amount of money probably isn't going to make a
difference. I may just follow Mayor Pro Tem's lead and vote,no so you understand why.
Um, I definitely am grateful that we are changing it. If it will remain a criminal offense,
I'm grateful that we would be changing it so that a,you know,we take out that warrant
issuing part. I think having it schedule makes sense.
Teague: I do see Councilor Dunn's hand raised again. I'm not sure.
Dunn: Yeah. I mean,uh, earlier I just wanted to make a comment. I mean- I think the 2,4, 8 Is-
is something that I- I like the idea of so if people wanted to go with that [inaudible].
Taylor: I just have another sort of strange procedural question. Uh,we know Iowa City is a very
mobile community,people come and go. So is there a time frame on this? Like one time,
two time,within a year,two years or I mean what if it's like one and then two years later,
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and then four years later, is that- would that still be the third offense, or how-how would
that play out?
Goers: Right. Unlike, let's say uh,tobacco violations,uh,where it's,you know,two within two
years,three within three years, four-you know, and so forth,there's no such thing like
this,but we find that the age of when someone often gets these is when they're in college.
Um, and um, so frankly,we don't see a lot of escalation. I mean,there have been certain
circumstances in which we've seen,uh,the same defendant,more frequently the same
apartment,but not always the same defendant because as I mentioned, sometimes one is
there and the other is not. Um,but they tend to phase out. I mean -yeah, I wouldn't
expect to see a lot of escalation. Um, and a couple of other pieces of information. I- I
looked up what the escalation is for the under 21. It's $300 for the first offense, $500 for a
second offense, and 625 for third and subsequent.Now,that was set in 2011. I believe
that the maximum fine in 2011 was 625. I think that's why that number was selected. The
other thing I will add is that, it has been a longstanding policy of our office that if the
defendant's of criminal disorderly house charges are cooperative with the police officer
um,they can, if it is their wish,have the charge,the criminal charge, amended to the civil
version of this offense. That carries with it a $750,um,municipal penalty along with
court costs,but that is issued to the whole apartment. So, oftentimes that's three or four
defendants who are splitting that cost. Um, and of course,would result in no criminal
charges on the person's record. But again,they need to be cooperative with the police
officer and we check,you know, if they-well, if they were not cooperative with the
police officers and made life difficult for both the neighbors who called in and the police
officers who responded,then we do not make that offer.
Teague: I do think it'd be a multiple,you know, oftentimes it's multiple people paying the fine.
Again, I appreciate the 2-4-8. I think it makes a lot of logical sense. Um, I- I can go either
way,but I'm comfortable with the 3, 5 and 855.
Alter: Does it make sense to- of those of us who are okay with it to, I know that I heard
Councilor Dunn, Shawn Harmsen, and yourself I'm okay with the 2,4, 8. Um, I don't
know where [Overlapping]
Thomas: It's- it's not that much different than what- [Overlapping]
Alter:No.
Thomas: -was originally proposed. A- as I said, I do think having-you know, living in areas
where we do have these incidents,they can be pretty ugly at times. You know,we're not
talking about-we're talking about people who often are quite,um quite drunk. And so it
can be,you know,just the interfacing with these individuals can be very difficult. Um,
and as I said,the-there is that typical just so- so the warning is noted by the police
officer, correct?
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Goers: Right. When there's a call for service,the officers respond and- and they,you know,
basically report back how it was resolved. And it's- it's- it's typically a warning in the
sense that they issue a written warning and hand it to the person.
Thomas:No. But do they- do they note that issued a warning- [Overlapping]
Goers: Yes.
Thomas: -so that the second time around- [Overlapping]
Goers: Yes.
Thomas: -they would issue the- [Overlapping]
Goers: Typically noting not the resident's name,but the address,you know, 123 Happy Street,
Apartment 4. And so if a subsequent officer, let's say if there's a shift change or
something, subsequent officer is called back to that same apartment.
Thomas: Right. It's often a residence or an apartment unit. That's- [Overlapping]
Goers: Yes.
Thomas: -the issue.
Goers: Right.
Thomas: Um, so there is that initial one that is given the free pass before anything, citation is
issued. So 2,the 2,4, 800, I think it's not-not significantly different than what was
proposed. So I'm okay with it.
Harmsen: Like I said, I don't feel strongly enough about it. Just throwing it out there as an idea to
change it from what it is if somebody [Overlapping]
Teague: I guess the question,yeah. I mean, certainly there can be a motion to amend,um, if we
have people that feel strongly about it um,maybe they make- can make the motion.
Dunn: So moved.
Teague: So um, Councilor Dunn just moved for a motion to do the-the fines at 2,4, and 800. Do
we have a second?Do we have a second? I don't hear a second, so that motion fails. So
the original motion is on the floor at um, 3, 5, and 855. Are we ready for roll call?Roll
call,please. (Roll Call) Motion passes 6-1.
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9.d.Adding New Fee for Electric Vehicle Charging—Ordinance Amending Title 3,
Finances, Taxation and Fees,Chapter 4, Schedule of Fees,Rates, Charges,Bonds,
Fines and Penalties, Section 8,Parking to add a new fee for electric vehicle
charging. (First Consideration)
Teague: Item number 9d is add a new fee for electric vehicle charging. Ordinance amending
Title 3, Finances, Taxation and Fees, Chapter 4 Schedule of Fees,Rates, Charges,Bonds,
Fines, and Penalties, Section 8,Parking to add a new fee for electric charging vehicles.
And this is fust consideration.
1. Consider an Ordinance(first consideration)
Teague: Could I get a motion,please?
Bergus: So moved,Bergus.
Harmsen: Second,Harmsen.
Teague: All right. And we're going to have Danielle-Darian, I'm sorry, I don't know why I said
Danielle. Darian.
Nagle-Gamm: Wrong department.
Teague: I know. Come and speak to us.
Nagle-Gamm: Good evening Mayor, Council. So the City of Iowa City has been offering electric
vehicle charging in public ramps since 2017. So there's been about six years of public
charging. Um,Harrison Street Ramp was the first ramp to have public charging. The last
one we added was at Tower Place and that was in July of 2020. Once these installations
were complete,we now have two electric vehicle charging parking spaces in all of our
public parking facilities,which is great. Um, to date,this amenity has been offered at no
additional charge. Parking sessions in the spaces designated for EV use are limited to 4
hours only to promote turnover of those two- of those limited spaces we have. And how it
works is we have,the chargers are ChargePoint, and that is the manufacturer and brand
and they provide the platform for us. Um,they, so customers download a ChargePoint
App on their phone. They, on their smartphone app,they use their phone and that app to
initiate a charge- charging sessions and ChargePoint users are required to tie a credit card
to their app. So even though we don't charge a fee right at the second,um, anybody who
has a ChargePoint App in Iowa City does have a credit card attached to,um,their-their
ChargePoint App. Um, and also ChargePoint, I should say, is also used across the United
States. So it's a place, if you have an electric vehicle,you will find ChargePoint chargers
in multiple other locations. In 2019,the State of Iowa passed legislation to recover road
use fees that are normally collected by legacy fuel taxes. So this is, of course,we're in
this interesting transition where we all know how much funding we need for our roads to
maintain them, our bridges. Um, as EV adoption takes off of course,we're limiting the
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amount of funding that comes from gasoline taxes, diesel taxes that actually supply
funding to communities such as ours to help repair our roads. So- so the legislature
passed-two pieces of-well one piece of legislation with two-two items in it to help
compensate for this technological change. They phased in additional annual registration
fees for plug-in hybrids and also battery electric,um,vehicles. I keep wanting to say
battery electric buses. I'm used to saying that. Battery electric vehicles. Um, and they also
included an excise tax,um, of 2.6 cents per kilowatt hour for electric vehicle charging at
non-residential locations. So basically,you know in our parking ramps we're sort of
functioning as what a gas station would function as with legacy fuel. So we're providing
and fuel,we're reselling a fuel to the public. So this excise tax began to apply to the City
for all of the fuel that we are selling to the community, or we're providing to the
community as of July 1. So the City has four expenses associated with dispensing that
electric fuel in our parking ramps. We have, of course, electricity. We have ChargePoint
plan fees. We have maintenance costs which have been pretty negligible to this point, so
we haven't had a lot of maintenance costs. And then now we have the state excise tax on
the electric fuel. So if the City chooses to collect a charging fee through the ChargePoint
system,which would be the simplest, easiest,um, and if we choose to recover those
costs,ultimately, another expense would be added, a fee amounting to 10%of each
transaction. So that's kind of how the ChargePoint system--they collect the fees,they
collect the revenue,um,they take 10% and then they, essentially the rest of that moves
back into the City coffers--the rest of the 90% of those transactions. So what we did is we
evaluated the calendar year 2020 utilization. So we looked at how much electric fuel we
use in the year 2022,um, and those expenses related to the provision of charging
equipment for community use. And we, doing some analysis,we-we-we indicated
basically that a fee of$0.16 per kilowatt hour would be required for us to break-even for
all of those,um, expenses. We paid out approximately or expenses added up to about 10-
10,500, I believe is what it was for 2022. So in order to recoup those funds,um,plus a-
the new excise tax from the state level, it would result in a $0.16 per kilowatt hour
charge. So at this point, staff is recommending that the City established a $0.16 per
kilowatt hour fee to recover the excise tax,to recover the ChargePoint fees,the
electricity, and then of course,the Cloud fees charged by ChargePoint. Um, a caveat, I
will say, the City has seen tremendous growth in EV utilization,we're seeing new users
all the time. That's a metric we,that we measure and that's really exciting. But it is
reasonable to assume that once these fees are implemented, demand may decrease for
drivers that don't have EV, or demand may decrease for drivers that do have EV charging
capacity at home. So we expect that we'll start to see an increase in the amount of EV
charging from either renters or people who don't have access to a garage and don't have
easy access at home for charging equipment. So we plan to continue to monitor the
utilization of charging equipment and expenses and periodically reevaluate this fee
structure. Um, I don't know if we'll get to the level of gas stations where they can get out
there signs in the morning and they change their numbers as fuel prices ebb and flow with
every delivery. But we'll certainly be evaluating on a regular basis to see what our-what
our expenses are and come back to you all with any further recommendations. And I
would be happy to answer any questions you have on this topic.
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Harmsen: Out of curiosity um,we've been basically,the City has been eating the cost of the
electricity-
Nagle-Gamm: Yes.
Harmsen: -for this time period?How much of that electricity cost is part of that $0.16. So we
know that the excise tax is,uh, for 2.6 cents per kilowatt hour. Um, so of the remaining
13.3 cents, or whatever it would work out to be,how much of that is the electricity?
Nagle-Gamm: I don't have that breakout in front of me,but I can get you that information. I can
get you a better breakout of all that. It's a good question. We have it calculated, I just
didn't include it my memo.
Harmsen: I think where I'm going with this is just,yeah. Thank you. I guess I can do it- so I'll
save that for discussion.
Dunn: Quick question for you. So do you have any information relating to,um,how many
kilowatt hours the average day or you know visit is?What is that information?
Nagle-Gamm: Yeah. We do have that. I don't have that in front of me either,but that information
is,we've got a really great dashboard through ChargePoint and we can-we can,um,
calculate very many different variables related to EV charging. It's pretty exciting the
amount of information that we have at our fingertips so I could get that information.
Dunn: Okay. I'd appreciate it. Thank you.
Harmsen: I'm wondering too, I haven't yet made the switch to an electric vehicle. So they're kind
of like,this kinda ties into Councilor's Dunn's question. So I think what he's getting at or
at least one of the things that would come from the answer to his question, is like,what
would it cost somebody to come in and fully charge their vehicle during that four hour
time period. But how does that, I mean, so what does that similarly charge if they were to
charge at a service station that allows for EV charging. I mean would we be still under
that,would we be the same,would be-we'd be more expensive? I just don't have a frame
of reference. Do you happen to know?
Nagle-Gamm: Yeah, it's a great question. So over a four-hour period we're estimating it would
cost approximately $4 for somebody with a full battery electric vehicle to charge. Um,
and I don't have,uh, electric vehicle myself. The electric buses are [Overlapping] are a
different beast. So I can't use that for comparison. And I'm trying to recall Danny Bissel-
I did have this conversation with Danny Bissell who's on our climate team, who does
have an electric vehicle and he runs all of our stats and analysis and he keeps tabs on how
we're performing from an EV perspective. And my- I can't remember exactly what the
comparison would be,but you get a really good charge out of 4 hours. Um, and I'm going
to- I'm going to have to defer back to him. Um, I don't think it would be like a full tank of
gas,but for a full plug-in hybrid vehicle,but it would be a substantial- it would be a
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substantial charge in that four hours based on the speed with which our chargers charge.
So they're charge-they charge faster than your average at-home charging system.
Harmsen: Got you.
Nagle-Gamm: So from my perspective, I think of even if it got half full- a half full tank of gas
now at a gas station,you know is depends on the size [Overlapping]
Harmsen:Not $4.
Nagle-Gamm:Not even close to $4. Right. So I can't give you an exact comparison,but I have
to-my recollection is that it was at least 50%, if not- if not more. I can get more
information from Danny Bissell on that piece too,but still a good deal.
Alter: I just have a question that's actually from- it's a definitional question. In the memo, it says
staff recommends pursuing idle fee charges in the future if compliance with the four-hour
parking,that's just if somebody overstays their.
Nagle-Gamm: Yes.
Alter: Okay. All I had to do is read it out loud and it made sense. Thank you.
Nagle-Gamm: Yes it is. That is an option we have in the future. That was one question we had a
staff. Is this the time to propose idle fee charges too and some communities have done
that to incent people when they're-when they're done charging,they're-there in the space
that someone else can't use. Um, although I did find out just today,um, one of our- one
of our staff members just bought a new electric vehicle and she said- she had it parked
downtown while we were doing the-the fare-free event downtown, and she got a notice
on her ChargePoint app that somebody was waiting in line for that particular location. So
there's-there's a communication system that helps to notify drivers that someone else is,
there is a waitlist for that space. So when you get to your four-hour period, it helps
remind you to move along so idle fees may not be necessary,but I wanted to include that
as a way that we can potentially avoid people overstaying the time so that we can ensure
there's access to the-to more people. Basically, for the limited amount of spaces that we
have.
Thomas: So these spaces are not used for parking at all. Technically,they're simply charging
stations.
Nagle-Gamm: Yes. So yes.
Thomas: We're losing the parking revenue from these-these stalls.
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Nagle-Gamm: There- so our patrons that use our parking facilities will pay for both parking in
the facility,the per hourly fee or their permit, if they have a permit, and then they will
pay for the electric vehicle charging on top of that. So they'll be two fees.
Thomas: They will be paying for parking in that space? Okay.
Nagle-Gamm: Yes.
Teague: Any other questions? Thank you.
Nagle-Gamm: Thank you.
Teague: Yes. All right. Anyone from the public who would like to address this topic? Seeing no
one in-person or online Council discussion.
Bergus: I think it's a good idea to recover our costs.
Teague: Yeah. I think it's a great option for people to have the ability to go in and charge up.
And if you're there to sitting idol,you know, I think it'd be an incentive to go and move
your car so someone else can,uh,reap the benefits of getting some charge as well, so I'm
comfortable with it. All right. Roll-call,please.(Roll Call) Motion passses 7-0.
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9.f. Urban Renewal Plan Amendment—Resolution approving Amendment No. 17 to
the City University Project 1 Urban Renewal to add a project to the Urban Renewal
Area.
Teague: Item 9.f. Urban Renewal Plan Amendment-Resolution approving Amendment No. 17
to the City University Project 1,Urban Renewal Plan to add a project to the Urban
Renewal Area.
1. Consider a Resolution
Teage: Can I get a motion to approve,please?
Alter: So moved Alter.
Bergus: Second Bergus.
Teague: All right. And we're going to bring up Wendy Ford,Economic Development
Coordinator.
Ford: Good evening,Mayor, Council. I'm Wendy Ford,Economic Development Coordinator,
and tonight you are looking at a resolution to approve amendment No. 17 to the otherwise
known as the City University Project 1 Urban Renewal Area,which is known as
downtown as well, and the reason for this resolution is because,um, it adds a project to
the plan area and that project would be the exterior renovation of the Senior Center. This
isn't approving that project at all. This is approving putting the project into the Urban
Renewal Plan so that you have the ability per state law to-to consider that. So that
project,um, is estimated to be two million dollars and it will completely renovate the
exterior of the Senior Center when it goes forward. But again, I should reiterate this is
only updating the plan or amending the plan so that you can consider that project in the
future.
Teague:Now Council, if you have any questions for Wendy Ford,you better get them in because
Jul- on August 11th, she's out of here.
Ford: I thought I was out tonight. I almost [Overlapping]
Teague:No questions for you.
Alter: Because it was a very clear presentation.
Teague: Thank you.
Ford: Thank you.
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Teague: All right then. Anyone from the public like to address this topic? Seeing no one in-
person or online, Council discussion. Roll call,please? (Roll Call) Motion passes 7-0.
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9.g.Hawkeye Smoke and Liquor Tobacco Civil Penalty—Resolution assessing
$1500.00 civil penalty and thirty-day retail cigarette permit suspension against
Hawkeye Smoke and Liquor.
Teague: Item number 9g,Hawkeye Smoke and Liquor Tobacco Civil Penalty. Resolution
assessing $1,500 civil penalty in 30-day retail cigarette permit suspension against
Hawkeye Smoke and Liquor.
1. Consider a Resolution:
Teague: Can I get a motion to approve please?
Alter: So moved Alter.
Bergus: Second Bergus.
Teague: All right. And we do have to amend the resolution.
Goers: That's correct Mr. Mayor. As I mentioned in,uh,the item clarification section of the
Work Session meeting,uh,the proprietor here sent in their waiver of a hearing and,uh,
acceptance of the penalty at around,uh, shortly before noon today. And so apologies for
the late,uh, change,but that's why,uh, so I would enter or ask,uh, a Council member to
make a motion to substitute the resolution that you've received in,uh,your late handout
materials for the one that was included in your packet originally and if that amendment is
approved,then you can vote on the underlying motion of the imposition and acceptance.
Teague: What he just said can I?
Harmsen: So moved .
Teague: All right.
Alter: Second Alter.
Teague: Okay. Any,um, so moved and seconded. All in favor say aye. (Voice Vote). Aye. Any
oppose?Motion passes 7-0. Any questions to- for our City Attorney from the Council?
No. Anyone from the public who would like to address this topic? Seeing no one in
person or online. Council discussion. Roll call,please? (Roll Call). Motion passes 7-0.
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10. Council Appointments
10.a.Ad Hoc Truth and Reconciliation Commission—Two vacancies to fill an
unexpired term,upon appointment to December 31,2024. (Mohamed Traore and
Kevo Rivera resigned)
Teague: Item number 10 is Council Appointments. We have four appointments-four different
commissions or trustees that we're going to be appointing today. So we're going to go
through each one individually,but at the end we'll do a collective one vote.All right, so
we'll start with 10a,Ad Hoc Truth & Reconciliation Commission. There are two
vacancies and they're both with male requirements,um, and they will be,uh, filled upon
the expired term,which is now,uh,through appointment date to December 31, 2024. So
who would like to make a motion to appoint someone?
Bergus: I have a couple of recommendations. I would nominate Emmanuel Nakihinga and Chad
Simmons.
Alter: I would also add,um,Louis Tassinary- Tassinary as a consideration.
Taylor: I agree with,uh, Chad Simmons and Louis Tassinary.
Teague: I agree with,uh, Chad Simmons and Louis Tassinary as well. I think we-we should say
that there are some great applicants,um, especially you know,the male applicants that
we have to look at. Um,Emmanuel, I thought they had a great application as well,um, I
like the,um,the great energy, I would say,um,but I- I will,uh,promote Chad and Louis.
Dunn: I would-uh, I would agree with that as well.
Hamsen: Yes, I agree with those sentiments as all- all of the above, in- including thank you to all
the people that applied and some great- some great,uh, some great applications there. I
can certainly understand why Councilor Bergus,uh,named Emmanuel in her-her list, but
it sounds like the Chad and- and Louis is kind of the consensus that's developing and I'm
okay with that because they're also good candidates.
Teague: So it looks like we have a majority, if I'm counting correctly,uh, for the appointment of
Chad Simmons and Louis Tassinary, if that's correct.
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10.b.Parks & Recreation Commission—One vacancy to fill an unexpired term,
upon appointment—December 31,2023. (Pending vacancy for Boniface Penandjo
Lemoupa)
Teague: We'll go on to the next commission,which is going to be Parks and Recreation
Commission. We have one male requirement.
Alter: I was impressed by Alex Stanton.
Bergus: I agree with that nomination.
Teague: Yeah. I can agree.
Harmsen: Yeah. Again, some other good candidates too,you know,was- for me, it was between
Alex,uh, and Alan and Jordan were the three that jumped out at me.
Teague: Sure.
Harmsen: Among good- a good candidates.
Teague: Any other names or any other supports for any other candidates?Right now we have
three for Alex and then just single for others.
Thomas: Gene Chrischilles. I appreciated his describing himself as a clear thinker, cooperatively
finding solutions and- and improvements.
Dunn: I would support Gene as well.
Harmsen: And I think I can be okay with Alex.
Teague: So we have three for Alex,two for Gene as of now.
Taylor: I- I think both of those are good,they are all good. Um, Gene I liked because he has
served on boards before, so he has an understanding of- of the process,uh, and Alex is
good. But he did say that the Library Board was his fust choice rather than Parks and
Rec. So in that case I- I would go with Gene.
Teague: So we have-now Laura,have you down for Alex, Is that correct?
Bergus: Yeah.
Teague: Okay. So we have three for Alex,three for Gene.
Thomas: Who hasn't?
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Teague: Is you.
Alter: Oh,me? I nominated- I put forward Alex.
Teague: Are you- oh,then- [Overlapping]
Alter: I did put forward.
Teague: -then we have four.
Alter: Oh, okay.
Teague: Yes. So Alex Stanton.
Alter:...I wasn't doing my job.
Teague: Well, I'm so sorry.
Alter:No-no-no.
Teague: All right. Alex Stanton will be appointed for,um,Parks and Ree.
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10.c.Planning& Zoning Commission—One vacancy to rill an unexpired term, upon
appointment—July 30,2026. (Michael Marut resigned)
Teague: And then we're going on to 10.c which is Planning and Zoning Commission. One
vacancy to fill an unexpired term upon appointment through July 30, 2026. This is one
male requirement as well.
Bergus: I would nominate Scott Quellhorst.
Dunn: I would go with that as well.
Harmsen: Yeah. That would have been the one.
Alter: I would- I would support that.
Teague: All right. I can go there as well. So, um, I think that's majority. So Scott Quellhorst.
Okay.
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10.d.Library Board of Trustees—Consider a recommendation from Johnson
County Board of Supervisors to reappoint Robin Paetzold as the ounty
representative,July 1,2023—June 30,2029. (Term expired for Robin Paetzold). See
correspondence included in Council Packet.
Teague: And then we're gonna move on to 10.d. Li-Library Board of Trustees. Consider a
recommendation from Johnson County Board of Supervisors to appoint Robin Paetzold
as the County representative,July 1, 2023 through June 30, 2029. And Council
discussion.
Bergus: Sounds good to me.
Teague: Sounds good to me.
Teague: All right- all right. So I am going to go back up and we'll start with, um. Can I get a
motion to approve for the Ad Hoe Truth and Reconciliation Commission, Chad Simmons
and Louis Tassinary, and then for the Parks and Recreation Commission Alex Stanton,
for the Planning and Zoning Commission, Scott Quellhorst, and then for the Library
Board of Trustees,Robin Paetzold.
Dunn: So moved.
Teague: Moved by Dunn.
Alter: Second,Alter.
Teague: Seconded by Alter. All in favor say aye. (Voice Vote)Aye. Any oppose?Motion passes
7-0. And then could I get-um, could accept correspondence for the Library Board of
Trustees?
Taylor: So moved Taylor.
Bergus: Second Bergus.
Teague: All in favor say aye. (Voice Vote). Aye. Any oppose?. Motion passes 7-0.
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13. City Council Information
Teague: Item number 13 is City Council information.
Bergus: I don't want to steal anyone's thunder,but we made our buses free today. So that I think
is the most exciting thing that that we could talk about.
Alter: Yes.
Teague: On the fust. Yeah.
Bergus: So thank you. Huge thank you to staff for making that happen,making it happen
quickly. And really-really-really want to say thank you for all the communication that
I'm seeing about it. Like we are blitzing the media and social media and,um,really
impressive and grateful to know that we can do that and push it out that way. Don't let up.
Now-now's the time ride the bus.
Teague: Yes-yes. This is good. Hearing no other,no other updates.
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14.Report on Items from City Staff
Teague: We're gonna go to our City Manager's Office,um,which is item number 14,Reports
from City Staff.
Fruin: Well,um, RAGBRAI 50 just came through.
Teague:Nice.
Fruin: That was certainly exciting. Big kudos to the City of Coralville, Think Iowa City and of
course our staff too for managing the-the-the riders that came through,uh,despite some
challenging circumstances, especially as they,uh,uh, overnighted in Coralville. Um,
another anniversary is 40 years of National Night Out that's taking place tonight right
now.
Bergus: That's great.
Fruin: Um, we are now at three locations. We had four locations in total,but one has closed
down. Uh, so for another half-hour,um, our Police and Fire Departments will be out in
the neighborhoods,uh,building some relationships and having some good conversations
with our residents. So,uh,uh, thanks to those staff members that are putting in the time
planning,uh,those events. That's it.
Teague: City attorney.
Goers: Uh, I'll echo,uh, City Manager's comments about RAGBRAI. I rode on Friday and
Saturday. And it was delightful to ride through town and see a bunch of smiling,uh, City
staff faces that I knew, even though it was 06:00 in the morning,they were still smiling
and greeting every rider as they went by. And it was a lot of fun.
Teague: And our City Clerk is gonna tell us about her riding expedition.
Grace: Oh,no.Nothing for me.
Teague: All right.
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