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changes to that policy,we're going to actually come to the Council Economic Development
Committee and vet those,and eventually it'll come to the full Council. And I think that you're
going to see a staff recommendation that will broaden beyond lead,that will um,provide a little
bit more flexibility in how we meet those climate action goals. So your TIF policy and we're
making an assumption that TIF will be needed on this project,but your TIF policy will govern
that eventually, and that's-that's a time to take that up.But,um,now-now is okay,too,if you've
got ideas on what sustainability means in 2024.
Moe: On the specific topic of sustainability,I know I'm particularly interested in the-the quality of the
construction or the quality of the building,and that it's a kind of building that is a long-term
permanent investment in our downtown,not a short-term thing.And so while sustainability can
sometimes encompass the operational energies that buildings use,it can also encompass that
amount of energy it takes to build the building and how long it's around. So I would like that
conversation when it happens to include that sort of both of those dimensions of sustainability
and then that being part of our decision-making is-is how much carbon or energy the building
uses to operate versus to construct.
Fruin:Yeah.
Moe: And that it's something that it's a permanent quality building.
Fruin:Yeah,I-I think we can have that conversation. I think that's a good point. One of our goals for this,
right?We're looking at the long-term health of the downtown.We're not making short-term
decisions with this project.We're really trying to,um,add long-term value,and one way you do
that is you build a building as you're describing.Um,so I think you guys can,you know,react to
that. Generally speaking,I think if-if we're simplifying this,and please,if I'm oversimplifying,
let me know,but I think you're getting at avoiding construction like wood.
Moe: Yeah. Like wood frame construction.
Fruin:Wood frame construction. Uh,which is going to be the cheapest route until the building code
requires you to move to steel,which tends to be eight stories or more. A lot of the buildings that
you've seen in around town at that 4-6,7,our stick built or wood frame construction. So we could
certainly require higher construction standards,regardless of height,um,and I-I think that would
align with the goals of the long-term benefits. It will increase cost if it applied to a shorter
building. Again,once you get past eight stories,you're going to be in that level of construction
anyway.
Teague: Councilor Dunn,I know that your hand is raised.
Dunn: Thank you,Mayor. Um,I guess I-I just have some broad comments that I'd like to share about my
thoughts on this.Um,one of the main priorities that I've heard from folks and that I really agree
with is I think it'd be amazing if we could,um,in-in attempting to preserve some ground-level,
um,commercial space.If we were able to do something to provide,you know,an incubator space
for small businesses,um,I think that that is something that would require an immense amount of
planning,you know,input from the business community as well as to especially how we-we
develop a process to,you know,get businesses that are off the ground,you know, eventually out
of that space and into another space that suits their needs so that other businesses can-can,you
know,access that public benefit.But that's something that's-that's really personally important to
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me.We-we have a really prime opportunity to potentially,you know,give small business owners
and entrepreneurs in our community access to the biggest market.And that is something that over
and over is mentioned to me as one of the most difficult problems that small business owners,
especially people who work and run food service,uh,that they run into. Um,doesn't have to be
food service,it can be market,it can be whatever.But that's something that I'm super interested
in. Um,I-I also would share interest in,you know,the design and building aspects that Councilor
Moe is bringing up as it relates to climate,uh,and long-term longevity. Um,but yeah,that-that
stuffs really-really big priority for me personally.We'd also love to hear what other people think
about that.
Moe: Okay. Can I ask you a question,Councilor Dunn?
Dunn: Of course.
Moe: I'm-I'm curious. I share your excitement about the opportunity for an incubator space or,you know,
a Newbo-like kind of thing.But would it be a no-go for you if,um,a cultural institution wanted
to be in that space or a different tenant?I mean,in the context of this conversation,what are our
bright lines for no, is- is that for you, it must be that or just a high value like it?
Dunn: I think that if we can identify,you know,a mix,I think that'd be ideal.But as long as we can have
some capacity for incubator space,that's going to make me happy. I-I wouldn't say it's a no-go if
we fmd the right,you know,organization or cultural,you know,space to go there.It's a quite
large space. Uh,so I-I have a feeling that we-if we're looking at a very specific micro level at
that point,um,I have a feeling that there's-there's not going to be too many problems with-with
shared space,but I don't know. I wouldn't say it's a red line. It's just something that I-I really
want to see.
Teague: I think, for me,we've had a lot of public input in- in ideas on this, so I would want staff to kind
of take,um,you know,a step back,look at it. I don't have a this must go there.When I do hear
about the incubator space,I already realized that we have merged downtown. There's also,you
know,Dream City coming on,coming on board. There's one in Coralville. So you know,we
would have to do a needs assessment,um, for some of this stuff.But not to say I'm,you know,
totally against it, if that's what,uh,will be proposed,I'll consider it at that time.But I-I don't
know that I have any specific,um,direction that I want to give the staff at this point. We have a
bunch of information that has come from the public.I think we should,you know,kind of shift
through that and then make a recommendation that,um,seems to be in line with our strategic
goals,which staff is well inundated and knowing.And so I'm comfortable with just,um,waiting
to see what the next iteration of this process brings.
Alter: And I guess I would add,it's-not-it follows well after the Mayor,because it's sort of generalized in
that way. One of the things that I would like to see is, and I think any design firm worth their salt
is going to do this,but something that compliments the surround. You know,we have the senior
center,we have brick buildings around it, and I'm not dictating any of that,but,like,be creative
with that while attending to the space because where the Chauncey is is different from where
Hotel Vetro is,from where 21 Linn Street is and the surrounding areas. And so I think that
thinking about a new building in a way that complements what we have would be fantastic and to
be attentive to that. Um,I'm also mindful of,I think, from,um,the feedback that we got that-that
Rachel and her team have collected,that,um,there was a lot of really valuable feedback,um,
over at,um,on the Ped Mall,where the market is,right?Where there's that transition space. So
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something that actually is drawing people in.Right,I am not an architect. I'm not a designer. I
don't know,but these are things rather than my red lines of no. It's more like I want to highly
encourage that type of inviting in so that this is a space where people maybe walking by,oh, God,
that looks really interesting and that there's things for them to do.But-but that initial invitation
isn't necessarily.I mean,there really is a design element to that to draw people in. So I would be
interested in that kind of welcome.
Moe: Yeah,oh I'm sorry. Go ahead.I've spoken more.
Salih: Um,go ahead.
Moe: I-I wanted to,I mean,that the example that Jeff provided us was height,and talking about
complimenting or somehow fitting in is something that is obviously going to be the most
controversial part of this process. One of the things that it's been percolating in my mind is how
do we say it fits in,right?You know,are we going to wait until the last minute to say it fits in? Or
are we going to give some kind of guidance. And one-one possibility is to acknowledge the fact
that downtown is listed on the National Register, simply stating that building can be as tall as you
would allow,but it can't detract from that.It can't dig list that if that's a way to think about that.
Alter: Yeah.
Moe: And I-I don't know who gets to be the arbiter of that in the design phase. That's the tough piece um,
because those kind of things don't happen,but I'd be curious to hear all thoughts on,um,how we
set some kind of guidance for how tall this thing is- is going to be.
Alter: And just to be really clear,short. To be clear,I-I want to encourage the creativity as well as the
complimenting. So when I say,comp-I'm not trying to do, like,a coded like,I actually have a
height in mind.
Moe: Sure.
Alter: Please that is what it is.It's not that because, in fact,I've seen designs,you know,they haven't
come to fruition,where they've been really interesting,very tall buildings.
Moe: They step back. They change [inaudible].
Alter: And so- so I just want to encourage that it's like that it is-there's an awareness of the surround and-
and that there is a sense of compliment.It may not be that it fits in exactly,but there's a
compliment to it.
Moe: Sure.
Alter: So in anyway,I just wanted to-to add that that I don't have a height in mind.
Salih: Yeah. For me,I see from the assessment we received or,from the like the survey we did with the
public that they have also,like,they want to encourage people to come downtown from
immigrants and people of color to the downtown. And I think if we look at the downtown where
we have all these businesses,we're going feel like, see like,few businesses are BIPOC
community here in the downtown. And I-I'm not,like,really for example,asking for another
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incubator or anything,but I-I if there is any space for business doesn't matter if it's a restaurant,
doesn't matter if for BIPOC community to start their business for 13 years.And this is-will be
like if their business is successful,they can see somewhere else because everybody would know
them and they can easily stay in the downtown,but go and rent there or maybe just like,you
know,go somewhere else. And that's what I mean,if we can find to encourage people to come to
downtown,the people will come to the thing that they relate to.And I think it's like more
buyback businesses downtown will be great to be added to this. This way,we will draw people
that not-through normally come to the downtown,so they can come to the downtown.
Dunn: I agree with you 100%,and I think that um,you know, emphasizing a sustainable retail incu-
incubator,whether that's um,you know,food-based or-or mercantile based.Like,I-I-I've heard
from members of the downtown district,I've heard from business owners,that barrier to entry is
extraordinarily high. It's extraordinarily high for,you know,the-the least pardon me the,you
know,the average level of disadvantaged people in our community for so people who are more
marginalized. It's extraordinarily and sometimes it's-it's not a barrier that can be passed. So,you
know, 100%agree with you on that one.
Bergus: I think big picture on that point it's I'm remembering with the South district market that we
actually changed the zoning code to enable a use that could help subsidize those spaces. And I
think that premise,I could see there-there may be cities that would approach that very-very
differently,like that we are-so that however it's framed,so that potential developers know that
we are a community that values this and wants to encourage it,not like we just want a Louis
Vuitton store there.And that's,you know,what would make us happy.I-I'm not really-at this
stage,I'm not interested in like, suggesting specific uses,but I think as to the sustainability,
having a building that the use can change over time,um I know we've talked about concerns,just,
for example,with the RISE and the fact that,like that student housing and not a whole lot more
can be done with that massive physical structure,and just trying to be cognizant of the flexibility
of the space itself. I also just wanted to say publicly that we do know that there was a decent
amount of public input looking for green space or a park,and I really appreciate the fact that
we've been very clear in saying that's not what this space is for,and that we want to encourage
the-we want to encourage this to be a place where the public is very welcome and feels, as you
said,invited in and not-not exclusive,right,that it doesn't feel elite. I-I think the Chauncey is
always the example that comes to my mind of my favorite public bathroom in Iowa City,you
know,and- and you can walk in there. And even though it's a very nice hotel and condos,you
never feel like you're not welcome in that facility. So,however,that can be done through design,I
think is really important. And then just yeah,the long term flexibility and the mix of uses and
having the density that is appropriate for the very,you know,core of our community.
Harmsen:I-I can't say there's anything that I strongly disagree with that anybody has said. So that's great.
I think we are all close. I think- as with I think Councilor Bergus and the Mayor's comments,you
know,I take right now more of a general view. So I agree with the idea that some sort of,you
know,commercial opportunities that are lacking from downtown is probably one of the things I
heard also in the surveys without specifically right now me saying,I want it specifically to be this
kind or that kind but certainly be interested in all of the things,you know,that have been
mentioned,certainly would be-would be great.Just to be on the record since we started this
conversation with building height. I also don't have any problem with a taller building,as long as
it and Councilor Alter,uh think that this complements.You know,when I stand on that corner
there by just down from the Englert and sort of look at that streetscape,it's kind of cool,right?It's
really cool and so I don't think height is the defining factor of something that complements,but
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certainly whatever that design looks like that fits. Like,I-I don't think a Chauncey design fits in
that corner in the same way that you know,different kinds of materials might be more-more
fitting in with sort of the character.At the same time,you know,definitely,I love the openness
also of the Chauncey.I think I agree with that.It's almost a semipublic space, and I think that's-
that's pretty cool. So,yeah so there's no hard red lines in any of that statement,I guess,but-
Alter: Actually,it- it does occur to me,one thing that when you're talking about the RISE,I want to keep
it general in terms of comments.But one thing that I would have a very hard time with is luxury
student housing.
Bergus: Agreed.
Alter: I just don't think there's a need for it,and so I would have a very hard time with that.
Harmsen:I mean,we didn't specifically say affordable housing. We did mention the strategic plan,but I
suppose it's worth saying.
Alter: What do I-what's my red line,no?
Harmsen:Yeah-yeah.No-no.But also something that would be,you know,we're looking for. I don't
think we mentioned that in-in other sort of context with our strategic plan but just to make sure
it's part of this conversation tonight,that that's one of the reasons why I don't have a- a I'm not
against a taller building,because as Councilor Bergus said,we want to see something multiuse,
and we'll get more multi-the more floors there are and the more spaces available.
Alter: And it's core downtown as well. Yeah.
Teague: Any other comments?
Dunn: I-just being specific,since other people were bringing up very specific items,I would also say that
I-I don't have any major concerns at this point,uh,about building a height,and I would also
share the comments that were just made by Councilor Alter.I'm not very interested in luxury
student apartments.
Teague: All right. Great. Thanks.
Frain: So just- if I could just recap as we sum up so everybody's clear on next steps. So um we're going to
get the Council Economic Development Committee together in the next few weeks,and we're
going to start to look at the TIF policy that was last written in 2017. Staff will present some- some
suggested edits to that,work through the-the Council Economic Development Committee.Uh,
once we-that group feels good,we'll bring that to the full council for consideration. The idea is
that we're updating that policy before we see any responses to this. So it doesn't look like we're
tailoring a policy to responses received. While that's going on,Rachel will take the lead in
drafting the RFP, and we'll bring that draft back to the full council.We won't take that through
the Council Economic Development Committee,we will come and we'll do probably a work
session or two so that we can get that hammered out,and our goal is still to release the RFP in
September. Okay.
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2. Review of City Council Pending Work Session Topics
Teague: Alright,we're going to move on to Item number 2,which is a review of City Council pending
work session topics. I will say that if we can focus on what is here and not talk about things that
are not,or add anything to the list at this moment. So just to get us started,you'll see we do have a
few currently scheduled items. These are all items that I know that the council is on board with.
July 16th,the new tobacco permit moratorium.We'll get an update from our city attorney.July
16th,we'll also have the City Hall and Public Safety Headquarters Space and Needs, study
update,and then on August 20th,that's going to be our free fare transit progress. So we're looking
forward to that. The next topic of- it really deals with our strategic plan action items requiring
council discussion.Now,here there may be some reconsideration by council, so I just kind of
open that up to see if there's any other thoughts to what is listed there. There's four bullet points.
Alter: I actually do have one suggestion or two to get the temperature from- from people.I do not
remember the-the logic or the rationale.Was there a problem that was to potentially be solved by
doing the two way with Dodge and Governor?
Fruin:Yeah,I appreciate you bringing that up,because the public works team has-has been prepping for
this one.I think in general,the idea was,can we create a-create safer streets,slow traffic down
and maybe improve kind of on a neighborhood feel around those one way couplets. So we-public
works has spent quite a bit of time working with our consultant to diagnose this,and we're
actually ready to come to you now and talk through the pros and cons,and we'll have a staff
recommendation for you on that. So it's not under the currently scheduled,but it's either going to
be July 16th or that first meeting in August.
Alter: Okay. Then thank you.Perfect.
Harmsen: So if we drop that now,that'd be pretty rough. Huh?
Alter: That I'm in no way shape or form. I want to hear-this is great,I look forward to hearing what-what
the-
Moe: Including the price tag for it.
Fruin: Correct.We'll be part of the pros and cons and yeah.
Moe: Okay.
Teague: I will just say that I'm very interested in the regional transit system.I know that you sit on the
Metro Board,and so um this I want to keep there. So at least to have the conversation even if it's
not-how would I describe that to be?
Bergus: Yeah.No. I think now is a great time to-to start working on that.And I-not only at the MPO
level,but at the-there are better together working group for Pillar 3,which is the mobile
connected region,and we have an opportunity relating to possible relatively near term activation
of the CRANDIC corridor with electric battery powered trains that we're looking at. So I do think
maybe setting aside some work session time to get that presentation and update.And if-I don't
know what-what the council would like to do as far as the regional transit system sort of
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statement,but I would be happy to take that to the Pillar 3 working group or try and,you know,
get other entities on board.I-whatever you want,I'm happy to put a lot of energy behind this one.
Teague: I-I guess I would maybe-I'm not against that,but I think maybe working with staff to create that
statement and bringing it to us.
Bergus: Are folks comfortable with that?
Moe: I am. I-I think that with regional transit,everybody says,well,duh,just have a county wide transit,
and then you realize there are so many rules and it's so complicated,so actually having a public
work session where we explicate that why it's so damn complicated and hard because we all want
it so badly and can't get it done. So I think that conversation is worthwhile for the community.
Harmsen:I know that the one there about the legal steps discouraging preventing bad faith and predatory
property investors is one that,you know,in fact,I just within the last 24 hours,got some updates
on some of our bad faith property investors here in and around our community and the way
they're letting their properties,you know,they're upping rents with the justification of more
maintenance and then doing no maintenance. So you know,I hear it from-hear it from my mom,
hear it from other members of our community. So I don't want to see that one fall off or at least
I'd be open,like,maybe there's a way to-because we have already done some stuff looking at
some legal. I know that we had some discussions on that last summer,I think Last fall,maybe,at
that time escapes me.But to leave something on there because that's going to be an ongoing
problem that,you know,we deal with,and you know,we're still struggling to find ways to deal
with.
Alter: Is that perhaps so and because I know that Redmond is active at our lobbying,right,as a city,what
we're advocating for at the state.And I know that this is pretty high priority among several of our
representa-state representatives,that I'm wondering if there is a way for those two things to come
together since I know that in terms of the legality,we don't have the leverage to do that,but
perhaps by the city somehow finding and carving out more opportunities to advocate for the state
to do something might be possible.
Harmsen:I-I think if I were to recommend something here,is-is we might-this might be too narrow by
just having it at legal steps.Like,I wouldn't tick that out,but maybe or other measures to try and-
and,you know,whether that's,you know,some sort of a-when things start breaking down,you
know,inspections. I know that now all of these parks are in city limits, so they're not in our
jurisdiction,but there's a couple that are.You know,and so I don't want-I wouldn't like to see
that. I mean,there's nothing pending,but maybe that's something we can circle back to.
Alter: And I feel like I might be jumping in it where,um,Mayor Pro Tem would,but I think it's a safe
thing for us to agree that we all want to continue pushing hard on our affordable housing action
plan. And to try to-and-and I know that we have some- some movement in that,but to-to
continue looking at significant scale affordable housing efforts. So I-I don't particularly see any
bullets on here to get rid of.
Fruin:Yeah, and these are-this is verbatim from your strategic plan action items. So I don't really-I didn't
really anticipate these-these first four bullets. Um,it's-it's more of a timing issue and just getting
them scheduled.It's the other topics that have been either carried over from past councils or kind
of hanging out here for a while.
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Moe: Do we need a discussion on City Charter since we have a current City Charter working on the City
Charter?I'm curious why that's.
Teague: Well,I know that that was a Councilor Dunn sugge-or initiated the work session topic. So any
thoughts on the discussion for City Charter,Councilor Dunn?
Dunn: I-I-I think we can remove that one for right now.I like Councilor Moe stated and Councilor
[inaudible] stated to me in private.I think it's time that we just let them-
Teague: Okay.
Dunn: - see their work and see where the chips fall.
Moe: All right. And then can somebody explain to me the one above that,the impact of land use decisions
on long term?What are the origins of that bullet point?
Fruin:Yeah,this was,um,uh,really a-a concept that,uh,uh,Councilor Thomas had championed and-
and has been on this other topics in some way, shape, and form since probably two or three years.
But it's-it's really trying to,um,uh, consider how different land use patterns and the
infrastructure needed to support those impact the city financially over time. So at a very basic
level, sprawling acre executive residential lots versus denser,more diverse,uh,housing,what's
kind of the,um,infrastructure cost per unit,um,uh,would be one way to think about that.Um,it
looks at downtown-style development versus big-box-style development and compares,um,the
long-term cost on the city.Um,Councilor Thomas,I think had ideas to bring in a consultant to-
to-to kind of describe that to us,uh,which is why that's been hanging on here but um-
Moe: Is that conversation needed to effectively craft the pending revisions to the comprehensive plan?
Fruin:No,I don't think so. And frankly,I think that we recognize this concept already. You see that in the
form-based codes that we've been developing.Um,so I don't personally believe that that's
needed. I think you will see that this-this narrative discussed with the comp plan. So I-I think it
eventually makes it to you in the context of that comp plan.
Teague: I think with-with the form-based code,this is definitely being addressed,and so-
Alter: I agree.
Teague: I don't know that we need to leave it on there any longer. Unless-council-unless there's someone
that feels strongly about it.
Moe: I'm interested in it,but I think the place is with the comp plan.
Alter: Yeah.
Bergus: Yeah.I agree.
Teague: Okay.
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Alter: One that I'd be interested I'm not sure if I was the one who suggested it or not.But um,the strategic
plan decision-making framework,I would be okay removing that simply because we have the
strategic plan that also has,you know,like,what's the amount of lift?What potential years there
are?I think that we sort of have that built in to our strategic plan. I do reiterate that I think we
need to get together to revisit the strategic plan as current council. Um,but I don't think that we
need to then figure out some kind of a rubric or a-or a framework that overlays essentially
something that we've already built in.We can tweak it. So at any rate,I don't think that we need
to make something out of whole cloth. So I will be comfortable [inaudible].
Teague: So just editing the,uh,the framework of editing what we'll be looking at with a strategic plan.
Essentially,we're just gonna review the strategic plan altogether.
Alter: Yeah. I just don't think that we need something where it's to create a strategic plan decision-making
framework because we basically prioritized within the strategic plan.
Bergus: I think that came from a pattern of us kind of straying from,is this following the plan or not,you
know,and we'd kind of go off. So as long as we're keeping the plan in focus,I agree with
removing it,but I also think,you know,maybe now's the time to say,hey,we want to have some
kind of retreat with the current council around the current strategic plan. So that's going to be
additional time. That-that is a work session. Where does that fit-
Alter: Yeah.
Bergus: -on this list and on timing?
Alter: I would also say,I very much like the subheading that says,here's-here's the things that are on the
pending list that are part of the strategic plan. I think that's a great call-out that helps as well. So
yeah.
Salih: Is speaking about the strategic planning,I just had a hard time to-to fit like the matrix that I was
talking about for everything that we do as a city. How can we add matrix to like affordable
housing or anything else?Where can we fit that in?You think this could be on the strategic
planning as well,or-or how is that,if you can?
Fruin: So,um,I was going to add a review of the strategic plan on this,just based on,uh,conversations
with council. So I think you'll see that. If I'm understanding,we can strike that first bullet on the
framework.We'll add a review of the strategic plan,and I think that's the appropriate time to take
up the-the metrics that-that you're asking about.
Salih: Great idea. Thank you.
Harmsen:Do we need to just say, like,I mean,because kinda the point of this right are things that we are
directing city staff and maybe ourselves to come up with some information for us to talk about,
such as we have scheduled for July and August.Are there's some on here?I'm looking at the
UNESCO City of Literature update, and,uh,um,I mean,we do updates periodically already in
our-in our council agenda. I know I just started on there.Megan was on there.Was there
something more you had in mind for that as a work session topic or does that predate you even?
Fruin:Uh,Mayor Teague,I think it was you that requested that.
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Teague: Yeah. So- so I think UNESCO City of Literature,there's so much happening that I think it would
just be beneficial for the-the council and the community to learn about. Um,I'm going to be
going to Braga,Portugal with John,um,the executive director,John Kenyon. Um,the first week
in July,and so just to come back and give some information about that, and maybe just to,you
know,the bigger picture that's happening. I think that would be-
Harmsen:Inviting John to upcoming work session in August or September.
Teague: Yes. And it would be kind of a filler. We look for filler opportunities as well. Yeah.
Harmsen: Okay,that makes sense to me then.
Salih: And do we have any slight order for this or do you wanna do that now?
Fruin:Well,I've started to do that with the currently scheduled. That's fairly new,just to give you an idea
of what we're looking at. Um, so yes,it is helpful if- if you can say,you know,these two or three
items are our priority to get these scheduled because some of them will require some- some staff
homework Uh, for example,Redmond is taking the lead right now on the review of the City
grant programs,just trying to collect all that information and get it in a format that will be ready
for your work session when that time comes. Um,but if there's any other priorities on here, it is
helpful to know.
Bergus: I think that crisis response one was one that we said,let's have that conversation in light of sort of
fall budget time. So just making sure that that happens.
Teague: Yep.
Bergus: At that.
Teague: And there are some just like that one that does have kind of a date or yes there's time.
Alter: There's a timely component to it.
Moe: Revenue was very much in that bucket.
Bergus: I was gonna ask about that as well.Yeah,the lost conversation and other revenue streams.
Salih: And affordable housing,I think we need to start having a plan for that so-
Teague: I do think that the affordable housing is up above under the,you know, strategic plan action. Um,
so I will be comfortable just crossing that out just from that,you know,the other topics because it
is accounted for.Yeah. That way,we don't have just topics just to have topics. So people are okay
with that?
Salih: What-what do you mean,like adding-we're gonna-we are gonna discuss?
Teague: Yeah,is up above in the second bullet.
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Salih: Oh,it is there?
Teague: Yeah, so we don't have to have it down there.
Salih: Okay. Oh,I didn't notice that.
Alter: I also like the way that,um,we've been roughly putting it along the calendar for priorities. I think
that that's incredibly useful. And so I would just recommend that we maybe on a quarterly basis
or do that-do this kind of sifting through because then you don't have to scramble.And you can
also tell us,like,we're really-we're not gonna be ready for another six months on X,Y,and Z.
So,you know,it's not that it's dropped off. We just need more time. I think that that's- it'll just
help us be that much more aware of all the balls that are in the air for us as well as for- for staff.
Bergus:Like the air quality discussion,I think we're waiting on government agencies,right?
Fruin: Correct.
Bergus: When we get information,that will be one that will come back.
Fruin: That's correct.
Alter: I am interested on the continuing efforts of the Childcare Coalition.However,I also know that this
is like we have committed ARPA dollars. Um, and so-I mean,it's- it's in process. So I think the
type of update that I would be looking for is not necessarily in this next three months,even.It
would be sorta like as- like as we start pivoting to think about,well,is there a way for us to
sustain this?Are there additional recommendations from the Childcare Coalition? So this is one
that's not um-
Teague: Yeah.
Alter: -it doesn't need to be urgent,but I would like to keep it on.
Teague: Yeah. I guess-I guess,for me, if it's just updates,I think joint entities is a great place to put it.
Um, and then if it's funding request,a lot of that,you know,you know,that didn't go through the-
the routine channels.But I think it's probably at the routine-to routine channels to request
funding. So I would more be inclined to remove that as a topic that we're interested in. Certainly,
it may come before the city for us to address it at council level,but I think removing that from
here,I would be comfortable with knowing that it will be coming up in a joint entities meeting.
Alter: I would simply want,um,I guess the option if there's new information or something that is timely,
and maybe that's where you're coming in,like, if there's a funding ask or saying this is coming up,
this is a new thing that we want to do that-that we could entertain that potentially on a working
session.But-but I see your point.
Teague: Yeah. I kinda see it as an entity and having that a part of the city's,you know,pending topic. I
don't know is the wisest thing,though there are other avenues for that to happen,should it occur
and-and a need is there.
Fruin: So consensus on Childcare Coalition update is what?
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Alter: I mean,it is-it is an update,and so I see to your point that Childcare-that that could work well as a
joint entities.Um,and I'll just work my back channels to-
Teague: Sure.
Alter: Get more information from the Child Care Coalition,and if I know that there's an ask or something
coming up,I talk to other counselors to see if there's the appetite.
Moe: Yes.
Harmsen:It sounds good.
Alter: I'm fine with that.
Bergus: And our next joint entities is July 15th,right?
Alter: Yes.
Teague: Yes. Any other items here that we want to discuss for retaining or removing?
Alter: Where is Council at on the license plate reader?I'm just-I'm going through the things that we have
not mentioned yet. So I know that we've had a fairly robust conversation about it,but I don't
know that we landed anywhere.Is this something that we want to bring back up?
Fruin:Yeah,we-we were,you know,this was a budget proposal that was not funded. Um,you'd
requested more information, some public education on what these license plate readers are,how
they're used. Um, so,um,we would-Chief Liston and I would-would-would work to produce
just that. We probably have,uh,the vendor come in and talk about what they are.We'd-we'd
share experiences that other agencies have had with them,let you know who's using them all
around us,um,that sort of thing.
Moe: I would like an opportunity for that to happen before because I assume it will come up again in
possible proposed fixture budgets and to have that conversation ahead of the budgetary
conversation would be,I think,hopeful.Even if we-the conclusion is no,the havoc discussion
now,like,I think that would be productive for your budget modeling as well as our decision
making in general.
Teague: Sure.Yeah,I would be comfortable with that.We're nearing our stop-time,um,park master plan.
I don't know if this was submitted prior to us getting the-
Fruin: This might be the longest standing item we have on-on this list.Um,the-the equitable distribution
of destination parks,um, from staff standpoint,we-we don't really need this on there. We feel
like we have the plans in place,and we're actively working towards those,um,but this was
important to Council four or five years ago,maybe.
Alter: I think there have been so many good strides towards doing that.
Bergus: Yeah.I think we can remove it from our work session and know that staff is taking that seriously.
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Alter: And I was going to say,I mean,we could always request or kick it to the Parks and Rec
Commission if they wanted to look at it,but I just-I feel like-
Moe: The second one.
Alter; Again,I don't want to put more work on.
Teague: Okay.And then the last thing that we have that was just determined,uh,by the Council was the
historic preservation incentive discussion, so I'm assuming we're going to leave that on.
Moe: I would strongly prefer that.
Teague: Okay.All right. What I'm going to do is I'm going to just pause this,we're going to take a break
from the work session,um,so we will come back after our formal- formal meeting. So you can
consider yourself to be dismissed at this time from the work session.
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Teague: Yeah. I think-I don't know if you're intending to get the numbers and just share with us.
Salih: Yes.
Teague: I think that'd be great.Just to keep it up-up before us.Yeah.
Salih: Okay. Thank you.
Teague: Any other items from June 6th?We're going to move on to June 13th. And then there's two items
that we know we want to talk about. It is going to be IP5 and that is the joint entities meeting,
which is scheduled for July 15th. Any agenda items that we want to add?
Bergus: I think North Liberty and Johnson County are also asking for this,but the pop up Metro,which is
the battery powered train opportunity on the CRANDIC Railroad,if people are cool with hearing
about that.
Teague: I think it'd be great.Any other topics that we want to highlight for the good of Johnson County?
Moe: I liked the idea that came up in our work session about childcare being a joint entities issue. I don't
think it's appropriate this soon,but like getting-getting that coalition teed up to present to with
the schools and us and North Liberty,would be great.
Alter: I was going to say,yeah.
Moe: Yeah.
Teague: So it doesn't sound like there's an item outside of the pop up that anyone wants to put forth at this
time. Okay. And then remind us again where the meeting will be held.
Grace: I believe it's North Liberty.
Teague:North Liberty. Okay. And they're at their new City Hall,so [inaudible] So it'll be a North Liberty.
All right.We're going to move on to IP6,and this is the listening post. And so it is time again, so
I don't know if people have a the past listening post and who did what,um,but probably need to
do one.We haven't done some in a while but,um, so maybe August because July probably want
to still preserve unless I have not heard yet about the South District Diversity market.
Alter: It's not-it's going on the summer.
Teague: Okay.All right.Because I was going to suggest that we did that,we could do the farmers market.
We've done that before and we can probably do that in August and then we'll do one more in
November,unless there's two people that want to shift it to July,and then we will do it in
October.
Salih: I think August is good.
Teague: Okay.Who wants to do August and who wants to do November?We'll just go ahead and assign
them at this point.
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Salih: And which location?
Dunn: Whats the date in August?
Teague: I-well,how about we just identify who wants to do it in August and November, and then we'll
work offline with dates with Kelly?
Dunn: I'll do August.
Teague: All right.
Salih: I guess when I ask about the location.
Teague: Oh,I think the locations,we are comfortable with whoever is going to do it to determine. I will
be comfortable with that. And if it- if it's not at the farmers'market,it doesn't have to happen at
the farmers'market.
Moe: I'm flexible for any of the dates. So happy to do August,but if it doesn't matter.
Salih: I feel like on the farmers market,people are coming for something else maybe a few people will
notice that where they are they're going to come and talk to us but if we did it like somewhere and
intentionally,counsel will be here,come and talk to them. I would rather do it somewhere else.
Teague: So Mayor Pro Tem-well,during the time Mayor Pro Tem Alter and I
Alter: Oh-oh,that's fine.
Teague: We-we did it at the Farmers Market,and it was kind of a busy day where people,you know,
stopped to see us because they had us right there before them,and we weren't there campaigning
and so there was-they-they had us right where they wanted us to.
Salih: I just like not everyone go to the Farmers Market.
Teague: Yeah.No no. And- and again,there are different places that they've been.Um,but I just
suggested,you know,a place that was already having individuals,but certainly.
Salih: I would like to be on the West side anytime,I don't know.
Alter: Is there a splash pad on the West side?I know that sounds really silly,but is there?
Salih: Is there what?
Alter: Is there a park with a splash pad at-on the west side?
Salih: It is [inaudible]
Alter: I mean,you know,where just a lot of people gather on the weekends,that could be-they'll be there
anyway,but you're going to where they are.
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Salih: Yes.Exactly.
Fruin: So,um,we do hydrant parties in the summer.
Alter: Oh, fixe!
Fruin: Or we just kind of open up the fire hydrants and let-let the kids play in the street.We'll close down
the street. Thursday,August 15th,it's during the day.It's 1:00-3:00 during the day,but we'll be at
Pheasant Ridge neighborhood on the West side doing that, so that's off-of Bartlett and Robert.If
you want a daytime,I don't really know how many adults will be Partaking in the hydrant party
but Maybe supervising the kids that are running around in the street that's one option.We don't
have a splash pad,the closest one would be in-
Alter: Grant Wood.
Fruin:Yeah.
Teague: So it sounds like are you want to do August and maybe you and Dunn can determine what-
Salih: I-I want like Laura and I because Laura represent District A.
Bergus: Sure.
Salih: So if you and I can do some time there and if somebody want to do that[inaudible]
Teague: Do you want to go in November?
Salih: It does it matter,yeah.
Teague: Okay.
Bergus: Yeah.
Teague: So you two in November,and you'll figure out the location, and then Dunn and Moe as in
August,and you all work offline,that sounds great.Any other items from June 13th?Hearing
none.
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5. University of Iowa Student Government(USG)Updates
Teague: We're moving on to item number 5,University of Lowa Student government Updates. Welcome.
Monsivais: Hi,everyone. I hope you all are well. Can you guys hear me okay?
Teague: Yes.
Monsivais: Okay,good. Just check in. Um, if you notice the lady-the very stunning lady who is next to
me tonight in the back,that is not the deputy, so,um,that is our vice President for USG. Her
name is Brenda Ramirez,and I'm just so excited to hopefully have more guests from USG come
and observe City Council,it has been my goal,and I feel like I've reiterated this time and again
that I want to get more members of USG to engage with local government and yeah,that is just a
big thing for me this year. Um,I have a couple numbers in this next point, so just be aware it's
kind of a long point. So the Board of Regents has approved a 3%tuition increase for non-
residents and a 1.3%increase for residents in their most recent meeting held at UI.In total,this is
an increase of$395 and$270 respectively.In addition,there was also a 2.5-2.5%increase in
mandatory fees,these percentages apply to the entire 2024 and 2025 academic year not per
semester. The Radiation sciences program has requested an additional increase of$1,617 for both
residents and non-residents for fall 2024 to help balance their budget through a three year
program,these are increases for undergraduates,but there are additional hikes for graduate and
professional programs as well and these increases between all three universities are estimated to
generate$35 million in revenue for fiscal year 25 and in terms of peer comparisons to other
colleges,the University of Iowa still ranks mid to low on these lists in terms of how expensive
our fees and tuition are compared to Big 10 counterparts. Additionally, student Regent Abby
Crow attended her last meeting with the Board of regents at the same meeting. She's an alumna of
UI, and the student region terms rotate between three regent schools on six year terms. USG
commends her work and thanks her for her dedication.Um,I finally got an email sent out to the
city manager about our legislative agenda initiative of infusing our platforms.I will respond
shortly to that once I get word from the rest of my team and then,yeah,Leasecap is happening,I
ran into some trouble coordinating the program,but all as well I've troubleshooted all the issues,
so yeah,that's all I have for you tonight. Thank you.
Teague: All right.
Bergus: Thank you.
Teague: Thank you. We're on to item number 6,which is our final agenda item for the night. Uh,council
updates on the sign boards,commissions,and committees. I think many people-well,I think we
got that the last. Yeah. So any other items?Hearing none.We are adjourned. Enjoy the evening.
Thank you.
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