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CITY OF IOWA CITY
COUNCIL ACTION REPORT
February 18, 2025
Board of Appeals: January 15
Attachments: Board of Appeals: January 15
Final
MINUTES
IOWA CITY BOARD OF APPEALS JANUARY 15, 2025 — 3:30PM
EMMA J HARVAT HALL, CITY HALL
410 E. WASHINGTON STREET IOWA CITY, IA 52240
MEMBERS PRESENT: Andrew Martin, Thomas McInerney, GT Karr
MEMBERS ABSENT: Andrea French
STAFF PRESENT: Danielle Sitzman (Neighborhood and Development Services
Coordinator), Grant Lientz (Guest Counsel), Sue Dulek (Assistant
City Attorney), Tim Hennes (Sr. Building Inspector)
OTHERS PRESENT: Gregg Geerdes, Dave Moore, Matt Adam, Doug Fisher, Lysa
Moore
CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order at 3:30 PM.
ELECT OFFICERS FOR 2025 (CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR):
McInerney moved to elect Martin for Chair, Karr seconded, a vote was taken and motion passed
3-0.
McInerney moved to elect McInerney for Vice Chair, Martin seconded, a vote was taken and
motion passed 3-0.
CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES: June 5, 2023 Board of Appeals minutes
MOTION: McInerney moved to approve the minutes from the June 5, 2023 Board of Appeals
meeting. Seconded by Karr.
VOTE: Motion passed 3-0
HEAR APPEAL OF BUILDING OFFICIAL'S ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT (319 N.
Van Buren St.):
Martin stated that they would first hear from the Appellant.
Gregg Geerdes is representing Mr. Moore who lives at 425 East Davenport Street in Iowa City.
Mr. Moore has lived there for about 40 years, and he's owned it for about 20 years. Geerdes
stated they are talking about the area of the City directly north of Mercy Hospital on Van Buren
Street and there's a lot at 319 North Van Buren Street, which is about a half a block north of
Mercy Hospital. Up until 2017 there was a small house on that lot, a one story, cottage style
house that was torn down in 2017 and it's been a vacant lot ever since. The City has recently
issued a building permit for a residence to be built on that vacant lot and the problem is that Mr.
Moore's sewer line runs from his house to the south, where it intersects the City's main line,
which runs down the alley where this lot at 319 North Van Buren Street is. Geerdes referred the
Board to page 14 of their agenda packets and to a letter prepared by the City and sent to
Geerdes' clients. He pointed out on a picture where 425 is on the north edge, and then the
vacant lot at 319 which shows two cars parked on it. Geerdes stated that the problem is that
the building permitted now has a foundation installed on top of Mr. Moore's sewer line. Geerdes
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stated that under code section 721.1 of the plumbing code there's a table which says that
buildings or structures have a minimum horizontal distance required from building sewer of two
feet. Geerdes noted the chart he is referencing is on page 10 of the agenda packet. They know
Mr. Moore's sewer line is under that foundation for several reasons. First, the current owners of
the lot, who are building the house, came to Mr. Moore and said that he had two choices, either
they were going to build on top of Mr. Moore's line or else he, at his expense, can reroute the
sewer line. Geerdes stated that sewer line has been there for 100 years or more, because it's
an old house in an old part of town, and although they do not have a formal written easement
agreement, there are things called prescriptive easements that state if one uses a property for
more than 10 years it's going to be considered as their property. In this situation, this easement
has been in existence for over 100 years, nobody's complained about it, it wasn't a problem with
the old house, because that was a tiny cottage of around 800 square feet that was able to fit into
the east of this sewer line, but from the floor plan and the site plan for the new house, which are
on pages 18 and 21 of the agenda packet, they will see that this is a much larger property.
Geerdes stated it is their position that this is the new homeowner's problem to show that they
have built clear of Mr. Moore's sewer line, and even though they've already admitted to Mr.
Moore that they have built on the sewer line, Geerdes believes they have adequately shown
that the sewer line exists underneath there otherwise the City wouldn't have sent the letter in the
first place and there wouldn't be a problem. Geerdes stated what they are asking is for that the
separation, which is required by the building code that there be two feet between the building
and the existing sewer line, be enforced and if that's not for whatever reason agreeable to the
buyers Geerdes' clients are willing to discuss with them a reroute of the sewer line, but it
certainly shouldn't be at Mr. Moore's expense. Geerdes stated he believes they can work
something out, but as it is now it's a violation of the building code.
Secondly, Geerdes stated this is an old line, as he stated earlier at least 100 years old. It is his
understanding that apparently the pipe is it's made out of old clay and the present owners
discovered the tile whien aiey were excavating for hei fuunua ion, noting they exposed she
pipe. Geerdes is unsure if that clay is approved for construction and installation under buildings
or not, the code has certain requirements for things having to be approved and tested by the
relevant testing agencies and stamped as being approved. He stated given that this is 100
years old and in existence well before the code came along, the basic interpretation of this is
that this separation only applies if they're putting in a new sewer but doesn't apply if they're
putting in a new building like they are. Geerdes stated that doesn't make any sense because if
the goal is to separate building from sewer line it doesn't matter who was there first. In any
event, looking at the code section in question it doesn't draw that distinction, it just says that
structures need to be separated, and he doesn't think the fact that the sewer was there first
makes any difference.
Dave Moore (425 East Davenport Street) began by stating he believes he read last week that
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of the parties could object and wanted to know if that was correct.
Lientz replied that they do have a quorum but will double check on Mr. Moore's question.
Moore stated he was told that the sewer was underneath the house. He acknowledged there's
some things in the City's case about not knowing the exact location. Moore stated when the
owners and he spoke, they basically just told him not to worry about it. However, looking at his
house and where the City says the sewer line ends there's really no way it can go anywhere
other than underneath the new house. The owners admitted to Moore and that they knew they
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built their foundation on top of his sewer line and no one he has ever talked to has implied that it
was not that the exact location was an issue and it needed to be camera. Moore asserts the
City told him that because of the location the foundation his sewer could be severed or
disconnected. The owners told Moore in conversations they were going to go over his sewer,
and they really had two options, they either go over it or Moore could pay the cost to reroute it.
Moore stated the letter dated November 12 from Tim Hennes says, "When I found out about the
location of the sewer and I knew there were plans to build on the lot where your sewer runs
through, I thought I should share it with you in case it gets severed or disconnected during
construction". Moore also spoke to Robbie Maher in late November, he's one of the owners, and
asked him about putting a camera down there and he stated they didn't want to do that and go
to that expense and to just leave well enough alone. Moore is unsure if that was about saving
Moore the expense or not wanting to go face to face about the issue of the sewer underneath.
Moore noted in conversations with City staffers like Tim Hennes, Joe Welter, Tim Wilkey, and
Wastewater, the actual excavator and the owners there was never any mention that it might not
go under there. It was clear the line was under there.
McInerney asked when Mr. Moore became aware of the pipe going through the property.
Moore replied he received a letter from Tim Hennes on October 8.
McInerney asked why Mr. Moore didn't agree to an easement. Usually if there is a discharge
pipe going underneath someone else's property they should have an existing easement so that
they're not in this exact situation right now. McInerney is curious because Mr. Moore had some
time between when he received the letter before the building permit was issued so does he
have any additional information about what the terms were and why there was no agreement.
Moore stated because they didn't record these kinds of things in the 1920s and what Moore was
told they had what's called a prescriptive easement, Mr. Geerdes can talk about what a
prescriptive easement is. Moore personally talked with Chuck Meardon downtown and talked to
Doug William and Dick Clausner who were both attorney friends of his, when he heard about
the sewer line and he thought Mr. Olivera still owned the land, Mr. Maher didn't sign the deed
until late November, so the attorneys Moore talked to informally said he didn't have to do
anything about this and could just wait until he hears from the owners. Also, at that time there
were no designs up on the City website, there was no building permit applied and no designs,
so that is why he didn't move quickly, in addition to about a million other personal things that
were going on at that time.
McInerney asked if Mr. Moore saw the pipe be exposed. Mr. Geerdes had stated that the
owners had exposed the pipe. Moore stated he did not see the pipe exposed. He did walk out
the day of the excavation although he had no idea when the excavation was to be, it was just
happenchance. He talked to Mr. Maher in late November that they were going to get to it pretty
quickly and Moore had asked if they could have a little time to figure something out here.
Moorse stated as far as this exposed sewer pipe goes, Mr. Geerdes can correct his comments
on that, but Moore remembers that the excavator was there that day, they walked out there and
whether by coincidence or not, the very first excavation was exactly where Moore's sewer would
have entered into that building and his first thought was what are they doing, are they looking for
his sewer. It might have been coincidence, but he never saw that they exposed the sewer.
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Karr noted there's a general idea of where this sewer line is but never in the 20 years that Mr.
Moore owned his home actually ran and located the precise location. Moore confirmed that
they had never done that. Moore states he brought it up with Mr. Maher but Mr. Maher didn't
want to put Moore to that expense. Moore stated he has had that sewer cleaned out twice
before, by Action Sewer, and one time they did say they were going to have to go all the way to
the alley for that one and they did. Moore stated he never really processed that his sewer line
goes right to the alley and never even considered the location of it until this came up.
The Board next heard from the City.
Sue Dulek (City Attorney's Office) want to address a couple of the legal issues and Tim Hennes
can answer the more plumbing questions or specific questions about the sewer line. Dulek
pointed out on a map where the two properties in question are, 425 East Davenport Street and
319 North Van Buren Street, and noted they are not adjacent properties, so the sewer from 425
goes through two properties, and there is no recorded easement. Dulek stated additionally
there's no prescriptive easement, a prescriptive easement must be from a judge and no judge
has given them a prescriptive easement, or any other type of unwritten easement. There is no
easement. The City issued its building permit saying the sewer issue is between 425 and 319, it
doesn't involve the City.
Martin asked for clarification about the two types of easements. Dulek explained there are
recorded easements and unwritten easements. A prescriptive easement is one type of unwritten
easement that allows someone to go to court and ask, because of certain factors and facts, the
judge should grant them an unwritten easement, which could be a prescriptive easement.
Dulek noted Mr. Geerdes opened up his comments by saving that this is a very simple problem
but to the City it is too and there's no right to be on 319 and with no right to be on 319 the City
issued its building permit stating the folks need to work this out, because under the code 425
has to get to the City main and how it does that is up to them. If they want to go south through
323 and 319 they need to get their permission, which they do not have.
Dulek stated regarding the City's memo, and to highlight a couple of points in response to what
Mr. Geerdes stated, on page 10 of the packet the reference to the chart of 721.1 is very
important because it says, except as provided in 71.2 no building sewer shall be located in a lot
other than the lot of the site of the building. So unless they can meet this exception, they have to
be on 425. So then the exception, which is right below, and it has to do with abutting lots says
nothing contained in this code shall be construed to prohibit the use of an abutting property, the
abutting property is 323 and doesn't even speak to 319. Dulek stated there's nothing in the
nlumhina code that sneaks to a non -abutting property but even if it was abutting they would
have to meet two requirements. They have to have an easement or an agreement that's
recorded, neither of which apply so 721 is not applicable at all to this matter.
McInerney asked when did the policy change to state someone can build over an existing line
that is used for sanitary. Dulek stated there is no policy. McInerney stated there was a policy
when his property was forced to abandon the sanitary sewer and he had to reroute at his
expense. He was told by the City that he had to find a way to get around the building to make it
happen, because the location of the existing line was directly underneath where he was
planning to build his house, and they had to abandon that. Therefore, he lost the bathroom
because in the original small house it was in the back of the lot. McInerney was under the
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impression that one can't build over exactly the same type of construction. It was an old
property, about 100 years old so he is just wondering when that policy changed for the City to
allow buildings to be built over clay sanitary lines.
Dulek noted that was on Mr. McInerney's own lot and stated if they were just talking about 425
that would be a different matter, if 425 came in here and wanted a building permit.
McInerney stated 319 is operating as if they own the property, and they own everything on the
property, and therefore they're responsible for this line that's underneath and if it's going to be
workable, it would potentially provide controversy and to have it still in existence. When did Iowa
City have a policy in to allow this to be even happen.
Dulek stated the City has not had such a policy in her experience, in previous years, the code
speaks to buildings on that particular lot itself, the code does not speak to what happens on
non -abutting properties. 319 is not building its house on its own sewer line.
McInerney tried to explain to the City at the time when he had his sanitary abandoned, he was
trying to walk through the logic with the City on what does it matter, if it doesn't work he will be
the one rerouting his own property sanitary anyway, why can't he just take the risk, but he was
told no. He stated that's one inspector, and that's probably just because of his discretion, that
he operated that way.
Tim Hennes (Senior Building Inspector, Iowa City) doesn't know the specifics of McInerney's
case to drill down in detail on that right now.
McInerney understands but it seemed like it was more than one case that he'd heard that. He
heard it actually was a policy and he was to follow along with the policy. Because it was an
unexpected expense he just wanted to know if there was something written and if there's
anything that they can reference as to why they don't allow building over an existing line for the
same property owner.
Lientz advised the Board to ask about what the current code requirements are speaking to the
case that's before the Board today.
McInerney stated they don't have one here, that's within two feet. Hennes replied the section
that is being cited to be to horizontally. In this particular case, the wastewater division went out
and scoped the main and located the manhole and 111 feet down is a 90 degree tap and at that
point on the side of the pipe, there's a tap off of it, that sewer is 12 foot deep. Wastewater
cannot confirm that this is the route they just drew that on there as a straight line that could
come straight out but they do not know the location nor the depth of it. They can assume the
depth as there was a footing inspection and the line was not exposed during the footing
inspection. Hennes noted just doing the math with this being 12 foot deep, and the foundation
at that garage is a four foot foundation with one foot out of the ground, if that is teed off at 90
degrees off the side of that pipe then there's almost eight foot of coverage over that pipe, if it's
underneath that footing. However, he stated they do not know that.
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McInerney noted the new building is 55'6" from the lot line, with that includes the 10' setback
and so that would mean if it's an 80' lot minus 22' leaves basically 57'6" of building that is
affecting the area. So, if the sewer line did come straight back and straight south, that line may
not even be on the building. He asked if the original lot line for 425 extended all the way to the
alley. Hennes is unsure.
Matt Adam (attorney, Simmons Perrine Moyer Bergman) represents the homeowners Rob and
Jamie Maher stated he did provide some comments in the agenda packet, a bullet point list of
about 12 things addressing this matter. Tonight, he wanted to start with the Board of Appeals
and what their job is to decide decisions or determinations made by the City. Adam doesn't
quite understand, in the grounds for appeal that start at page three in the packet, what decision
or determination is actually being appealed, that's somewhat unknown and not clear. Adam will
also point out that he guesses the Board is here to determine if there are any plumbing code
violations, because that's the Board's job. Mr. Moore's appeal cites chapter seven of the of the
plumbing code. Adam zeroed in on page 30 where it says that this code applies governing the
materials, design and installation of sanitary sewer systems and building sewers. It's pretty
clear, that's what the code says, so he doesn't see any grounds for appeal on that question. The
materials being used to build 319, the design of the plumbing system on 319 or the installation
of any plumbing or sewer on 319, none of the grounds of appeal address that. Presumably the
building plans for 319, the logical conclusion is, the building plans and everything associated
with building this new structure on 319 is unquestioned_ and valid. Adam believes the Board's
analysis stops right there. Period, end of discussion.
Adam stated he will address the claims though because he thinks that's the end of the analysis.
He will address what they've said. They're claiming, specifically 721.1 building sewer, Adam
would argue this applies to the building sewer of the new house to be constructed on 319, not
existing sewer that might be in the ground, and to that point he emphasized they don't know
where that thing. is, nc one has provided any evidence as it's to location, it's all hypothetical.
Adam stated the Board is not here to deal with hypotheticals, they're here to deal with facts
within the confines of what the job is under the Board of Appeal and what the plumbing code
says. Adam reiterated they don't know where the sewer pipe is, they don't know what it's made
of and no one has seen this pipe. When the excavation was done on the four foot foundation in
that area that might be under that line, it wasn't exposed. At a hearing last week, the man who
did the work said when he dug it up, normally he can see the old trench and can see dirt moved
somewhere to see the indication of where this trench is and he saw no evidence of that. Again,
no one even knows if this sewer is under this building or not. But again, Adam reiterated he
doesn't think that's relevant for purposes of this analysis, if they read the code section 721.1 it
applies to the new sewer and whether or not that can go under an existing structure and there
are exceptions that allow for it on abutting lots only. Mr. Moore cited this code section himself,
likelv to his own fault, because under his own arguments if this applies to his sewer, he's in a
non conforming situation, his sewer runs through a lot that's not even abutting so the City could
arguably shut him down, but they're not going to because it's grandfathered in, potentially. But
Mr. Moore's arguments fly right in the face of his own use, and that's significant. Mr. Moore also
argues, without any facts, that he's got a prescriptive easement. Adams stated that he has
litigated those things and they're almost impossible to establish. They can be established,
there's some case law out there, but to say it's just got to be there for 10 years, that's only one
element, they have to prove a claim of right under color of title, very difficult. They would also
have prove it's been openly and notoriously used continuously and hostile, which meaning
against the other owner. Mr. Moore didn't even know about this thing until October 2024, that
testimony alone kills his claim for prescriptive easement in a legal side. But Adam noted that's
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not why this Board is here, they are not here to decide prescriptive easements, they are not
here to do anything except to see if the plumbing code on this new building was complied with
and this plumbing code does not apply to sewer lines have been in the ground for 100 years. If
there was a built plumbing code that applied, it would have been what was in effect in 100 years
ago, not today. Adam asserts there's nothing in this plumbing code that prohibits the structure
from being built over an existing line, nothing there, it doesn't exist, so all of those grounds for
appeal are misplaced. Adam also wanted to acknowledge that if perhaps this line did need to be
moved, it would be on Mr. Moore to move it, it's pretty clear the homeowner is responsible to get
their sewer from their house to the main, it's his obligation. Adam just wanted to bring these
points to the Board's attention and so for these reasons, they would request that this appeal be
denied and that his clients be allowed to continue building their home.
McInerney asked if they have any photos of the excavation. Adam is unsure if they have
photos, the contractor that did the excavation is here and can come up here and say he never
saw any pipe, nor did he see the ground disturbed where a pipe might have been laid 100 years
ago, which he claims can be seen all the time when he digs these things. Adam reiterated they
don't know where the pipe is, again it's all very hypothetical. No one located it, Mr. Moore didn't
locate it, and that's a foundational question of fact that Mr. Moore should have done before he
brought this appeal, but he didn't. Adam thinks it's critical that it's detrimental to his appeal that
he didn't, but even if he did it doesn't matter, because it's not this Board's job, this Board's job is
to determine if the new building at 319 complies with the code.
McInerney noted the issue here though is in chapter seven it does say in the first sentence of
that chapter, "shall govern the materials, design and installation of sanitary drainage systems
and building sewers" so he finds it interesting that that in itself could be grounds to say, one has
to have complete construction documents for a code official to make an opinion, or at least to
issue a permit. McInerney asked does design have a factor in Adam's opinion.
Adam replied he would say that if it did the factor would be the design of the new construction
on where the sewers leaving 319 and how it's getting tapped into the main in the alley. He
reiterated this code section only applies to new construction, and the design of that new
construction, it is silent and ignores any existing pipes anyplace else that hypothetically might
run under this house.
McInerney noted the code itself is meant to be not particularly specific on section and chapter,
because they don't address the totalitarian, the total, the gestalt of the construction process and
there's other chapters. For instance, chapter 30, addresses installation and protection of
sanitary drainage systems, which requires knowledge about where those existing lines are to
ensure that new construction does not interfere. Therefore, he is questioning where the sense is
of not addressing this issue. He stated with the lack of information provided it's almost
deception, they may have not knowingly been done but apparently people knew it was already
there and that's the part that he's a little confused with, why would they even let this proceed
when it would create controversy.
Adam stated that doesn't matter in this case but he'll address the point in two ways. First,
focusing on Mr. Moore's grounds for appeal, as the appellant he has the obligation when he files
an appeal to put everyone on notice of his grounds. Mr. Moore did file an appeal, and then the
City stated his grounds weren't specific and Mr. Moore had to cite what code violations he was
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claiming to be in question. Mr. Moore then wrote the email trying to find some clear indication of
what he's appealing and he did not appeal what McInerney just cited, that specific code section,
so they can't consider that today because it's not ripe for review and they can only consider the
grounds that he puts that forth in the appeal, Adam reiterated, the section that Mr. Moore cites is
721.1 and the second thing is it again applies to new construction, where one can put new pipe
in the ground, can it go under existing structures or not and what the horizontal distance
requirements are, that's what code section 7211 talks about, it's not talking about existing pipe
that might be in the -ground.
Adam would argue there's no requirement that one can't build over existing pipe. People build
over pipe all the time, they put concrete over it. Sometimes they don't want to put structures
over it, because usually, if there was an easement, the easement holder could come in and tear
it down and fix right because that's what easements say. But there isn't an easement here, and
there's no prohibition of putting a structure over hypothetical pipe that isn't even know where it's
at. Adam would ask this Board to focus its decision on whether or not there were any clearly
articulated grounds that support the appellant's claim, and if there's any facts Mr. Moore has the
burden of proof and Adam doesn't think he's met it.
Doug Fisher stated he's been in the water and sewer business since the mid-1980s and
considers himself just short of an expert. He completed the water and sewer hookup for this
new property at 319 and to correct Mr. Adam, he was not the actual excavator for the footings or
the basement itself, but he was there the night after they had just swiped the dirt out for the
garage footings and he stopped there specifically because he wanted to see if there was any
evidence of this supposed sewer running in there. However, what Mr. Adam was hitting on is
when there's an excavation, whether it's 10 years old, or in this case maybe 100 years old, they
are more than likely going to see evidence of the dirt mixed up, because it was mixed up going
back in the hole. They never packed it back in 100 years ago or kept it separate. Fisher was
looking for the discoloration or the difference in dirt in this footing excavation area and did not
see any, if he had he probably would have probed and it probably would have been slightly
softer. Fisher also wanted to note regarding the plan, as an excavator he doesn't know why
they would have cut across the lots diagonal like that. If it really goes where indicated by the
yellow line on the site plan shows it, then it's within a couple or three foot of a house and he
doesn't know why they would have got that close with a sewer. From his years of experience
Fisher would say they came straight back and then 45 over to the supposed location, which he
thinks is accurate, they specified 111 foot down, that's the number he was provided. Fisher
noted again he believes they probably came straight down square with the property, got out
very close to the alley, and then at some point they probably put a bend and went to that
connection. 'He stated at a Idl period it lI time IG a they probably had a III mil Vu 1-1u� i �ueIv1 ucInuJ or
angles.
McInerney asked about the angles. Fisher explained most of the angles are 45 degrees, they
can do 22, 45 or any combination thereof to make it. McInerney stated the clay had some
versatility and he is not that familiar with what options they had back then but they did what they
had to do to hook it up. Fisher acknowledged he doesn't know why they tapped 425 there.
McInerney stated there could have been a different property line at that time, when they first
built the house, but it is unknown and just hypothetical thoughts.
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Fisher also heard that going back in the abstract, back to day one, there was no talk ever of that
lot going through, that's what he heard last week, the attorney can confirm that.
McInerney asked what type of soil condition would be typical there. Fisher stated it was a
typical clay, typical to what is in the area, a tight mix clay which was absorbing. There was no
mix or nothing in there and if there was a ditch ever dug through there, he thinks they would be
able to see it.
Fisher stated he digs several holes a week and knows he's on the right track when he swipes
the dirt out and can see the difference. He knows he's on the right track to find the problem,
whether it be a water ditch or sewer ditch, whatever. The other thing Fisher would like to stress
is he believes there is way more money being spent on this thing than necessary. They could be
spending $400 to camera this line and locate it because it could be very easily done and either
prove the point that they've got a valid reason that they are building over it or put it on the back
burner because it's not going underneath the garage. Fisher doesn't know why they didn't
spend the money to figure that out before they ever got to this point here. It's a simple, easy
thing.
McInerney asked what the camera would do, would it give a vertical location. Fisher replied it
would, it's a push camera comes on a reel. They push it down and can get the depth and
exactly where it is. With the camera they can see the integrity of the sewer, whether it's even a
problem.
Gregg Geerdes first stated he was sorry to hear Mr. McInerney had experienced this issue as
well and Geerdes didn't hear anything from anybody which would allow this situation with Mr.
Moore to be any different than the way the City handled Mr. McInerney's situation. Geerdes
shared once upon a time he submitted some building plans to the City and neglected to include
a design for the trusses, a very important part, and what the building inspector said is that he
would not do anything until Geerdes show him on plans that the build meets code, and that
made all the sense in the world to Geerdes, a perfectly reasonable request. The question is why
wasn't that applied in this case, why didn't the City go to the current owners and say City code
says two feet clearance so show that they are in compliance with that requirement. It is not the
appellant's obligation to show that building codes are complied with, they didn't come in until
after they were approved, they have the right to challenge them but it is the City officials job is to
properly approve the plans, and in this case they did not and could not properly approve the
plans until they had a survey, or whatever they want to call it, to show where that sewer line is in
relation to the building. That's their responsibility. Geerdes also wanted to go over is the code
section that they're talking about. It's on page 10 of the agenda packet, it states "except as
provided in Section 721.2 no building sewer shall be located in a lot other than the lot that is the
site of the building", Mr. Moore is grandfathered in, that's not an issue, but then the next part
states "nor shall a building sewer be located at a point having less than the minimum distances
referenced in Table 721.1" and table 721.1 says minimum horizontal distance required from
building sewer and structure is 2'. That's what they're talking about. It doesn't talk about sewer
lines coming in after the fact, it talks about if one can build a building that's within 2' of a sewer
line and as Mr. McInerney already found out the answer to that question is no. Geerdes stated
all they are asking is for the same standard apply for others as well.
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January 15, 2025
Page 10 of 16
Dulek noted again they are not talking about the construction on 319, nor the sewer line for 319,
they are talking about the sewer line on 425 going through two properties. The code says one
can only go on the abutting property under certain circumstances. There's no provision in the
plumbing code that even allows them to go on 319, and there's no easement, it's as simple as
that. The City granted the permit noting the homeowners need to work this out. 425 has got to
get to the City main however they want to do that, they can figure it out and if they want to go
through 319 they talk to them and get an easement or whatever. There's no violation of the
plumbing code. There's no violation of chapter seven that the City did in issuing the building
permit.
Dave Moore (_425 East Davenport Street) has some notes but trusts his lawyer and trusts that
he did take a long look at the building code. Moore would love to know what code 30 is but what
he was going to say was to do a quick Google search on basically is there any code prohibiting
building on top of an old sewer it states while there isn't a single universally stated plumbing
code explicitly prohibiting building directly over a sewer line but most local building codes and
the international plumbing code incorporate provisions that effectively prevent this practice by
requiring adequate clearance and proper sewer line installation depth. Moore actually thinks the
two that they brought up do in their interpretation prohibit it and in other words, essentially
making it impractical to build directly on top of a sewer line. Moore also noted there's been so
much about this camera thing and it's been such a surprise to him, this has gone on for a month
and he knew that they could camera but nobody ever doubted the location of the sewer line.
Moore sat out there with Mr. Fisher, who Moore has heard great things about regarding his
work, and they talked that day about where they could reroute assuming that it begins at
Moore's house and ends at exactly where it ends at that diagonal rather than somehow bizarrely
going straight south and then taking a 90 degree angle and then another 90 degree angle to
meet at that main sewer line. Mr. Fisher and Moore actually sat there where it crosses the line,
and talked about whether they could do a reroute coming around and he said it'd be kind of
tough to do with a couple 90 degree angles, but maybe it could be done with a couple 45
degree angles. This hypothesis that somehow it goes straight through just doesn't make sense.
Moore trusts the wastewater management but if this is the main issue that the location of the
sewer, he emailed Action Sewer and they're willing to go in late this week or next week to see
where the sewer goes or does not go.
Moore also wanted to say while he's not an excavation expert, but the southern part of this
building is a garage underneath two stories and while the footings are not as deep to four or five
feet and it could be that his sewer line is maybe it's six feet underneath the garage. Moore
acknowledged Mr. Fisher is an expert and he's seen evidence of sewer lines that have been
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full weight of a two story house on top of it, because that's what's going to go on top of this, the
full weight of a two story house. Moore has been told by wastewater management that this is a
problem and a number of other people have said this is a little bit of a time bomb, including City
engineer Joe Welter.
Martin asked for clarification of if Mr. Moore has had this line located. Moore confirmed he had
not and the reason why was because when Moore suggested it to Mr. Maher to have it
excavated or camera'd Mr. Maher stated there was no reason to do that and waste money on
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that. The other reason was it just seemed like everybody had said where it went and that's the
main reason they didn't camera but Moore is happy to camera at this point but doesn't know
how this got to be the center of the conversation. Martin stated because Mr. Moore's assertion
is that the Maher's built within two feet of Mr. Moore's sewer line, but no one knows for certainty
where Mr. Moore's sewer line is and that's the reason it became the center of the conversation.
Lysa Moore (425 East Davenport Street)also stated they didn't camera between the time that
they understood what was going on and now because they had Christmas, put down a dog,
they never gave enough time to even figure it out. She is an artist, Mr. Moore is a musician, and
they needed time to figure out how to do this.
Mr. Moore acknowledged the month of from late November on was incredibly full and he told
both Mr. Maher and Mr. Fisher that and asked for a week but then suddenly, December 3
they're excavating. It was in the back his mind they should camera this but they were at their
limit and asked to just slow this down so they can think about this.
Karr noted they have a very limited scope that they can interpret here and since there's been a
ridiculous amount of hypotheticals that are fairly irrelevant to the actual facts that the Board can
weigh in on, the reality of the situation is that if Moore camera's it and it's either within two foot
or not, whether there's a jurisdiction or not, it sounds like it's probably the Moore's responsibility
to fix, and lawyers can figure that out. But if it's not underneath there, does he care. If the line
goes straight back and it's not underneath the footprint of this building are the Moore's doing
anything with it or just wait until the sewer needs to get fixed and then have to deal with it.
Moore stated if the sewer is not underneath the structure, house that's built, he still cares but
they wouldn't have to do anything about it at this point.
Lientz wanted to quickly to respond to Mr. Karr, he doesn't want to shut down anyone in the
middle of asking questions as more information is always a good idea and he wouldn't want to
deprive anyone of their due process rights by preventing them from speaking but as suggested
at the outset here the Board has a pretty limited question before them and that is whether there
was an error by the building official in issuing the building permit. When going through their
determination here and their deliberations if they are going to find there was an error, they are
going to need to point to the particular code section that they say has been violated. The Board
will want to have some findings of fact with their deliberation here stating what are things that
they think are relevant and what things are not relevant. The Board is to determine what is
relevant, is it whether there is or isn't a pipe that goes through a sewer service through 319, if
so, does it exist and has that been proven to their satisfaction? He noted people are testifying
that it does and people testifying that there's no record of it so the Board must make those
determinations and figure out what they think the facts are based on what's been presented.
Everyone has made their case and now is the time where the Board gets to decide how they're
making their decision. Lientz reiterated any motion under the Board rules is going to have to be
in the affirmative. He noted that the burden is on the appellant here so in order to reverse the
issuance of a building permit the Board would need a motion to reverse the building official's
issuance and that vote would have to be unanimous.
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January 15, 2025
Page 12 of 16
Martin asked if the City is obliged to know the location of the sewer from 425 when they issue
the permit. He thinks they're looking at an unknown condition being revealed, and it's still
unknown, so they're going to be going in circles until they get more data and this can be
adjudicated properly.
Lientz interjected again to say that the City has discretionary acts and ministerial acts.
Discretionary acts are they can choose whether it's a good idea to do a thing or not do a thing.
For ministerial act, and the issuance of a building permit is a ministerial act, while a Board
member may have personal experiences where they disagree but his advice today is the
issuance of a building permit does not involve any sort of discretion if the conditions that are set
for that issuance are met. If the code provisions are satisfied, and the fee is paid, the building
permit gets issued. If the Board finds that provisions aren't satisfied per something reflected
somewhere in the code, and they'll need to cite the code, not use personal experience nor
anecdotal stuff nor other cases, but the facts that they've heard today and the code where the
Board of Appeals lives.
Martin stated the reason he is asking that specific question of whether the location of this pipe is
necessary for them to issue the permit is because the appellant states they believe the City
should not have issued the building permit because it violates section 7 however he is not at all
convinced that the City is required to know the location of that sewer line in order to issue the
permit and doesn't see where in the code it states they are required to go out and scope all
these neighboring sewer lines to find out if they even go through this property.
Karr agrees and stated if they found them during excavation, then that's a separate thing, and
perhaps they need to find a remedy.
Martin stated that's still different than if they dig and find artifacts which they have to deal with it,
or if they found asbestos on the property, that doesn't stop them from issuing the permit, but it
does require them to take the appropriate steps to remedy that. So, if after the permit is issued
they found a pipe that was in violation of code there would have to be a remedy for that and
whose job it is to pay for that doesn't matter, the question is should they have issued the permit
and he doesn't think there's any reason that the City should not have issued the permit.
McInerney stated the owner has the obligation to provide a complete document to the building
official in the permit process and can't omit things and no one bothered to look up in the code.
Martin asserted it has to be an abutting property of 319 doesn't cover 425.
McInerney finds that as a weak argument and a technicality what they're really dealing with is
basically an unknown issue. They could look at it as a way of how they can get these people not
to go to court, and the answer is by encouraging them to get more information and data so that
all parties know where the pipe is. He believes there's a lack of willingness to find out where it
is and he finds that disturbing on both parties. One maybe has reasons because of duress, the
other one does not give the reason and it's claimed that they said don't worry about that which
he finds almost like entrapment. He also noted even the attorney for the owner of 319 said that
one can't get a prescriptive easement, there's no way it's going to happen as it's so rare so then
what remedy do they offer, that's is his concern.
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January 15, 2025
Page 13 of 16
Martin agrees, if he were building this property and thought there might be a sewer line
underneath there would he do something about it, yes but that's not the issue before this Board,
the issue before the Board is should the permit have been issued period.
Lientz stated there are other venues available to people who want to exercise their property
rights. If they want to establish an easement, they can and there are venues that are available
to them to say their easement rights are being violated but that's not here, that's District Court.
Here they live in the building code, and they have to find provisions that are in violation of the
building code otherwise they are going to have to let the building permit stand.
McInerney asked if the building of a structure over the top of the pipe covered by chapter 7, he
is not sure that is either, it's very gray to him, but he could understand why the City would not
want anyone to build over a pipe like that.
Martin noted he comes from perspective that if he doesn't know for sure he doesn't put anything
on his drawings to show that there's something in there because guess who gets to pay for it
with their professional liability insurance, him. It's like they're trying to not give some sort of
responsibility to the landowner. Martin stated the appellant is saying the City should not have
issued the permit but that's dependent on accurate information, which they don't have.
McInerney disagreed noting it seems like it was known prior to the issuance of the permit by the
City and they exacerbated the situation by sending a letter on October 8 telling the appellant his
sewer line was going through this property and good luck. He doesn't want to encourage this
activity by the City and thinks that's not the way they should have approached it, they should
have demanded that there be an examination of this. McInerney stated that's why the timeline
is very important here, and the fact that no one wanted to work it out, but it seemed that there
was an error, in his opinion, that the building official should not have given them a building
permit until this was resolved. It would have been a simple thing to ask and to resolve.
Lientz asked Mr. McInerney to cite the code section that would support the City's position to
demand resolution prior to the permit. McInerney referred to code section under design, page
30 is the beginning of the that states this chapter shall govern the materials design and design
requires interacting with other materials and existing materials and that is a requirement of
submission of documents. He stated an application for permit is at R1-05.3 and the application
requires that permits shall be on a form furnished by the building official and shall contain a
general description of the proposed work and its location. McInerney asserts the owner of 319
did not fulfill the obligation of providing a known location of this existing sewer line and at the
same time the City should be promoting a way to resolve this without getting into the courts.
They created the problem by not coming up with the more data.
Karr asked again for Mr. McInerney to cite the specific code. McInerney notes that in 721.1
applicability that chapter governs the materials, design and installation of sanitary drainage
systems and building sewers. The City asserts this is for new ones, but at the same time they
should have known that there was something there and they did know and they didn't bother.
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January 15, 2025
Page 14 of 16
Karr agrees with everything McInerney is saying and the fact that they're having this
conversation is ridiculous because they could have answered all of these questions with more
data but when he reads exactly the same section under sanitary drainage, it's very clear in his
mind that is for the new system. However, he is not certain that there are not other codes that
talk about the unknown conditions on the rest of the site, but that code section is regarding the
design of the new system.
Martin noted the other part of 721.1 states no building sewer shall be located in a lot other than
the lot that is the site of the building or structure served by such sewer, and then there are also
minimum distances for that. So that is stating that the sewer line for 425 can't be on 319.
McInerney agreed and asserted that is why the building permit should never have been issued.
319 applied for a permit and was given a permit despite having a known condition, he thinks the
City takes responsibility here and they could have easily recommended scoping and could have
given or delayed the permit issuance and that's where they errored. They could have decided
that they were not satisfied that the document was fulfilling the requirements as a building
permit requires.
Karr has a problem with requiring City staff to go through the entire building construction
drawings and everything to make sure every possible scenario is covered.
McInerney is concerned about the October 8 email, and the position they took immediately was
advising the owner, the potential buyers, to consult a private attorney regarding the matter.
Karr is glad the City brought it up, alerting both the buyer and the potential harmed party to
check this out. Again, the City should not be controlling every single tiling and micromanaging
everything. These are adults who own properties, they need to figure it out. Both parties knew
stuff was going on so it shouldn't be the City staff stating they are not going to do anything until
the situation was resolved.
McInerney feels the City shouldn't have issued a permit, it would have been the prudent thing to
do, they knew the sewer line was there. He understands but the City doesn't want that amount
of responsibility and so they advised the parties to talk to attorneys. He stated the City should
have at least given a helpful list of options to scope it out, people pay taxes for this, not just tell
them to get an attorney, that costs so much more and all this could have been avoided.
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they get it scoped and determined, and they can't make an easement unless they do that
anyway. With the building project being on hold there'd be a motive on 319 to be working with
425. Again, he states they should reverse the building code official and say it was an error to
issue a building permit for the reasons that it did not fulfill the design requirements, as in chapter
7.70.1.
Martin noted the other issue he has with that, is it the 319 property owner's responsibility to
change their line because of this existing sewer line, or change their plans, or anything about
what they want to do because of this existing sewer line, is that even an issue.
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January 15, 2025
Page 15 of 16
McInerney replied no other option was given except to see attorneys. He is saying that the code
requires they reveal the existing conditions so they wouldn't have an interference. He also
stated it is likely this pipe is going to fail at some point, property within the next 20 years, there's
a least a 50% chance that could happen because it is a 100 year old sewer line.
MOTION: McInerney moved to reverse the building official's decision to grant the permit.
(no second, motion dies)
Karr agrees with Martin and doesn't see that the building official errored on this.
Martin noted the City sent out that email on October 8 and they issued the permit on November
22, that's a month and a half, that's a lot of time.
McInerney questioned is that enough time, what is reasonable.
Martin asked if the City heard from the appellant.
Dave Moore replied yes and stated he has the complete thread of an email exchange between
him and Mr. Hennes. It was not included in the packet.
Lientz stated they are not supposed to take under consideration new evidence, they are
supposed to deal with only those matters that were properly submitted as part of the appeal,
they don't want unfair surprise, but if the City consents to the consideration of new matters then
the Board might do so.
Dulek stated she is not and would suggest the Board not entertain new evidence.
Moore noted there's four or five emails over a course of several weeks but the camera issues
didn't come up until last Friday and it was mentioned to defer this hearing for a week so they
could camera and scope the pipe.
Lientz suggested they don't defer, there are a lot of people that have paid a lot of money to be
here tonight. He noted it doesn't sound like they are unanimous here on the night of the hearing
that's scheduled by their bylaws, but unless they feel like there's a compelling reason to defer
they should continue on.
Karr asked a clarifying question that if the sewer line was found to be under there would there
be a potential impact at a final inspection to get the certificate of occupancy.
Dulek replied the City has already agreed to allow the house to be built there in granting the
building permit so it wouldn't matter. It's a matter between 425 and 319.
Martin agreed maybe this could have been handled differently but at this point he doesn't see
enough here to say the City failed in their duties by issuing the permit.
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Page 16 of 16
Martin asked if the vote has to be unanimous. Lientz explained they only need to be unanimous
to reverse the City official's decision.
MOTION: Karr moved to affirm the building officials to uphold the permit.
Seconded by Martin.
VOTE: 2-1 (McInerney dissenting) (motion fails)
Martin thinks both parties should get together, figure out who's going to pay for the scoping,
scope it, and then if the thing does end up being underneath the building, in the best interest of
both the homeowner at 319 and the homeowner at 425 figure out a way to get that sewer, if it is
under the building, get it out from under the building.
Karr noted this isn't a unique situation, these odd sewer lines are all over the place, especially in
the north side, he would put forth in the future perhaps legal and the building inspection
department can figure out a way to be more proactive, so it doesn't have to get to this type of
situation.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION: McInerney moved to adjourn meeting, Karr seconded.
VOTE: Motion passed 3-0. Meeting adjourned at 6:19 PM.
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Chairperson, Board of Appeals Date
BOARD OF APPEALS
ATTENDANCE RECORD
2025
1/15
French, Andrea
O/E
Martin, Andrew
X
McInerney, Thomas
X
Karr, GT
X
KEY:
X = Present
O = Absent
O/E = Absent/Excused
--- = Not a Member
Item Number: 4.b.
I, CITY OF IOWA CITY
COUNCIL ACTION REPORT
February 18, 2025
Climate Action Commission: January 6
Attachments: Climate Action Commission: January 6
MINUTES
IOWA CITY CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION
JANUARY 6 — 3:30 PM — FORMAL MEETING
EMMA J. HARVAT HALL
FINAL
MEMBERS PRESENT: Michael Anderson, Jamie Gade, Ben Grimm, Zach Haralson, Nadja
Krylov, Wim Murray, Brinda Shetty, Angie Smith, Robert Traer
MEMBERS ABSENT: Emma Bork, Michelle Sillman
STAFF PRESENT: Daniel Bissell, Sarah Gardner, Megan Hill, Diane Platte
OTHERS PRESENT: Scott Hawes, Sarah Furnish, Jana Garrelts, Barbara Eckstein, Rachell
Truitt
CALL TO ORDER:
Gade called the meeting to order at 3:31.
APPROVAL OF DECEMBER 2, 2024 MINUTES:
Shetty moved to approve the minutes, Smith seconded, and the motion carried.
PUBLIC COMMENT OF ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA:
None.
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Welcome and introduction of new members Nadja Krylov and Robert Traer
Action items from last meeting (staff):
• Staff reported that commissioners can support the City's legislative priorities by calling the
Capitol. Haralson asked if the wording for clean energy inclusion in new building code standards
was posted anywhere, and Gardner offered to follow up.
• Staff contacted Darian Nagle -Grimm about someone from Transit presenting to CAC in 2025
Community survey results presentation:
• City Council work session tomorrow, January 6, will cover the community survey results. One of
the two custom questions included in the survey was from Climate Action about commuting.
The current data about commuting in Iowa City comes from an ACS survey that uses a point -in -
time method of data collection. The community survey question calls for an averaged -over -time
response, which may yield different insights. Gade asked if the data show demographic subsets
and Gardner affirmed it can.
Events:
• Inclusive Transportation community conversation Jan. 30 noon, ICPL Meeting Room A
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• Inclusive Transportation virtual Q&A with author Feb. 4, 6 p.m., Zoom
• Other events in the community (commissioners) - none
NEW BUSINESS:
Midyear presentations from Climate Action Grant awardees, summarized in slides in agenda packet.
• Scott Hawes reported on how Iowa Valley Habitat for Humanity used grant funds for air sealing
a home under construction.
o Krylov asked if Energy Recovery Ventilators can be installed as a retrofit and Hawes
affirmed it can.
o Shetty asked how many homes have been built by IVHFH; Hawes reported nearly 200
homes have been built in the community so far, with 2-3 homes added per year.
o Haralson asked if the energy -efficiency upgrades are a new development and Hawes
reported that they have been standard procedure.
o Grimm asked if there is a trade-off between energy efficiency upgrades and cost of the
home. Hawes explained that the financing package can be structured around the
income of the household (28%) through subsidies.
o Grimm asked if there are families that can afford a more environmentally friendly home
but there are not such homes to fill those needs. Hawes posited that a builder does not
collect a higher profit margin from educating potential home buyers; they generally just
explain what increases the cost of the home.
• Barbara Eckstein explained how Trinity Episcopal Church will use funds for window rehab of
seven windows that face a courtyard. Two bids were received, one was accepted, and the
church is ready to move to next steps on the project this winter. A video by a parishioner will
complement the project. The Historic Preservation requirements of the building meant that
communication with City staff took place early and often.
o Haralson asked if there is an estimate of cost -savings on energy bills. Eckstein noted the
building has been jerry-rigged over so many decades, the general strategy is to walk
back decisions that have been made over the years to create a comprehensive space.
She noted this project is a step toward a long-term effort to add solar panels to a
portion of the roof.
• Sarah Furnish and Jana Garrelts reported how Neighborhood Centers of Johnson County used
funds for a community garden for the 3-year-olds classroom.
o Gade asked if there are plans to expand to other locations. Garrelts reported the
Pheasant Ridge site has a small garden.
Election of Chair and Vice Chair
• Shetty moved to nominate Gade as Chair, Grimm seconded, and the motion carried.
• Anderson moved to nominate Haralson as Vice Chair, Gade seconded, and the motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS:
Discussion of 2025 Climate Action Commission meeting times and dates
• Krylov reported seeing good results from a 12:30-2 meeting time to strike a balance between
public comment opportunity and a schedule that works for presentations from professionals.
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January 2025
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• Commissioners discussed scheduling needs. Gade asked if moving the public comment period to
the end is possible; Gardner affirmed it could. Anderson noted that a special meeting time for
public comment (listening session) would be helpful.
• Haralson moved to schedule CAC meetings 4-5:30 on Mondays, Shetty seconded, and the
motion carried. This schedule will begin in February.
RFrap-
Confirmation of next meeting time and location:
• Monday, February 3, 4-5:30 p.m. Emma J. Harvat Hall
Actionable items for commission, working groups, and staff:
• Staff will send a follow-up email with items discussed at this meeting.
ADJOURNMENT:
Krylov moved to adjourn, Traer seconded, and the motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 4:51.
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CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION
ATTENDANCE RECORD
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12/31/2026
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Michal Eynon-
12/31/2024
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John Fraser
12/31/2024
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Jamie Gade
12/31/2025
NM
X
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X
X
X
O/E
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Ben Grimm
10/31/2026
NM
X
O/E
X
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O/E
O/E
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Zach Haralson
12/31/2025
NM
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O/E
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Nadja Krylov
12/31/2026
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Wim Murray
MiclAmerican
NM
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Michelle Sillman
12/31/20025
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Brinda Shetty
UI Rep
NM
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Angie Smith
12/31/2025
NM
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Gabe Sturdevant
12/31/2024
NM
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Robert Traer
12/31/2026
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0/E = Absent/Excused
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* No longer on Commission
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Item Number: 4.c.
CITY OF IOWA CITY
COUNCIL ACTION REPORT
February 18, 2025
Community Police Review Board: January 14
Attachments: Community Police Review Board: January 14
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CITY OF IOWA CITY
MEMORANDUM
Date: February 13, 2025
To: Mayor and City Council
From: Connie McCurdy, Community Police Review Board Staff
Re: Recommendation from Community Police Review Board
At their January 14, 2025 meeting the Community Police Review Board made the following rec-
ommendation(s) to the City Council:
(1) Accept CPRB Complaint #24-10 Summary Dismissal
(2) Accept CPRB Complaint #24-11 Summary Dismissal
Additional action (check one)
® No further action needed
❑ Board or Commission is requesting direction from City Council
❑ Agenda item will be prepared by staff for City Council action
Approved Minutes
Community Police Review Board
Minutes — January 14, 2025
Call to Order: Chair Mekies called the meeting to order at 5:31 p.m,
Members Present: Colette Atkins, David Schwindt, Melissa Jensen, Saul Mekies,
Jessica Hobart -Collis
Members Absent: Ricky Downing, Jerri MacConnell
Staff Present: City Clerk Kellie Grace, Legal Counsel Patrick Ford
Others Present: Police Chief Dustin Liston
Recommendations to City Council:
• Accept CPRB Complaint 24-10 Summary Dismissal
• Accept CPRB Complaint 24-11 Summary Dismissal
Consent Calendar:
+ Draft minutes from the December 10, 2024 meeting
+ Correspondence from Mary McCann
Motion by Atkins, seconded by Schwindt to adopt the consent calendar as presented.
Motion carried 510. Downing and MacConnell were absent.
New Business:
■ Public re ort template:
Board member Schwindt said he will create a draft "run book" or set of instructions on how to write a public
report and share with the Board at the next meeting. Board member Jensen mentioned that she has two
different versions of the public report templates that she will share with Schwindt. City Clerk Grace shared a
version of the public report template with the Board and will email a copy of it to Schwindt.
Old Business:
• None.
Public Comment of Items not on the Agenda.,
a Mary McCann appeared and thanked the Board and the ICPD for all that they do for the community.
Board Information:
+ None.
Staff Information:
• None.
CPRB
January 14, 2025 Approved Minutes
Page 2
Tentative Meeting Schedule and Future Agendas (subject to change):
■ February 11, 2025, 5:30 p.m. — Helling Conference Room
• March 11, 2025, 5:30 p.m. —Helling Conference Room
• April 8, 2025, 5:30 p.m. — Helling Conference Room
• May 13, 2025, 5:30 p.m. — Helling Conference Room
Schwindt will not be at the February 11 ' meeting and Atkins will not be at the March 1 lth meeting.
Executive Session:
Motion by Schwindt, seconded by Jensen, to adjourn to Executive Session based on Section 21.5(1)(a) of the
Code of Iowa to review or discuss records which are required or authorized by state or federal law to be kept
confidential or to be kept confidential as a condition for that government body's possession or continued receipt
of federal funds, and 22.7(11) personal information in confidential personnel records of public bodies including
but not limited to cities, boards of supervisors and school districts, and 22-7(5) police officer investigative reports,
except where disclosure is authorized elsewhere in the Code; and 22.7(18) Communications not required by law,
rule or procedure that are made to a government body or to any of its employees by identified persons outside of
government, to the extent that the government body receiving those communications from such persons outside of
government could reasonably believe that those persons would be discouraged from making them to that
government body if they were available for general public examination.
Motion carried 510. Downing and MacConnell were absent.
Open session adjourned: 5:40 p.m.
Return to Open Session:
Returned to open session: 5:59 p.m.
Motion by Jensen, seconded by Atkins to accept the CPRB Summary Dismissal for Complaints 24-10 & 24-11 as
presented and forward to City Council.
Motion carried 510. Downing and MacConnell were absent.
Adjournment:
Motion by Atkins, seconded by Hobart -Collis to adjourn.
Motion carried 510. Downing and MacConnell were absent.
Meeting adjourned: 6:02 p.m.
Community Police Review Board
Attendance Record
Year 2024-2025
Term
10/16/24
Name
03/12/24
04/09/24
05/14/24
06111/24
07/09124
08/20/24
09/10/24
10/08/24
11/12/24
12/10/24
01/14/25
£x fires
Forum
Jerri
06/30/27
O/E
X
O/E
X
X
O/E
X
X
X
X
X
O/E
MacConnell
Ricky
Downie
06/30/26
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
O/E
O/E
O/E
O/E
Jessica
Hobart-
06/30/26
X
O/E
X
O/E
X
X
X
X
X
O/E
X
X
Collis
Melissa
06/30/25
O/E
X
X
X
X
X
O/E
X
O/E
X
X
X
Jensen
Saul Mekies
06/30/25
X
X
O/E
X
X
X
O/E
X
X
X
O/E
X
Amanda
06/30/24
O/E
X
X
X
---
_-
Re min ton
Orville
06/30/24
X
X
X
X
Townsend
David
06/30/28
---
X
O/E
X
X
O/E
X
X
X
Sehwindt
Colette
06/30/28
---
O/E
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
Atkins
Key:
X = Present
O = Absent
O/E = Absent/Excused
NM = No Meeting
-- = Not a Member
CPRB REPORT OF SUMMARY DISMISSAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL
Re: Investigation of CPRB Complaint #24-10
CPRB Complaint #24-10, filed on December 17, 2024, was summarily dismissed as
required by the City Code, Section 8-8-3(D): All complaints to the board must be filed
with the City Clerk within one hundred eighty (180) days of the alleged misconduct.
Dated: January 14, 2025
l_k"J
CPRB REPORT OF SUMMARY DISMISSAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL
Re: Investigation of CPRB Complaint #24-11
CPRB Complaint #24-11, filed on December 26, 2024, was summarily dismissed as
required by the City Code, Section 8-8-3(D): All complaints to the board must be filed
with the City Clerk within one hundred eighty (180) days of the alleged misconduct.
Dated: January 14, 2025
Item Number: 4.d.
I, CITY OF IOWA CITY
COUNCIL ACTION REPORT
February 18, 2025
Library Board of Trustees: December 19
Attachments: Library Board of Trustees: December 19
Iowa City Public Library Board of Trustees
Meeting Minutes
December 19, 2024
2nd Floor — Boardroom
Regular Meeting - 5:00 PM
FINAL
Tom Rocklin - President Bonnie Boothroy Robin Paetzold
DJ Johnk — Vice President Joseph Massa John Raeburn
Hannah Shultz -Secretary Claire Matthews Dan Stevenson
Members Present: Bonnie Boothroy, Joseph Massa, John Raeburn, Tom Rocklin, Hannah Shultz,
Dan Stevenson.
Members Absent: DJ Johnk, Claire Matthews, Robin Paetzold.
Staff Present: Elsworth Carman, Sam Helmick, Anne Mangano, Brent Palmer, Jason Paulios, Angie
Pilkington, Katie Roche, Jen Royer.
Guests Present: None.
Call Meeting to Order. Rocklin called the meeting to order at 5:03 PM. A quorum was present.
Approval of December 19, 2024 Board Meeting Agenda. Shultz made a motion to
approve the December 19, 2024 Board Meeting Agenda. Boothroy seconded. Motion passed 6/0.
Public Discussion. None.
Items to be Discussed.
Policy Review: 501 Authority for Administration of Personnel Policies for Library Employees.
Rocklin said this policy helps explain the relationship between the Library and the City. Massa made a
motion to approve Policy 501: Authority for Administration of Personnel Policies for Library Employees.
Raeburn seconded. Motion passed 6/0.
Policy Review: 103 Membership in Professional Organizations. Carman noted that Rocklin identified
Greater Iowa City should have "Inc.". Shultz noted the library pays for half of memberships and asked if
it was a budget decision. Royer said it was tied to budget and policy history. Carman said depending on
the year staff could outpace the budget. There was discussion about how the University of Iowa pays for
professional memberships. Massa made a motion to approve the proposed changes to Policy 103
Membership in Professional Organizations. Shultz seconded. Motion passed 6/0.
If you will need disability -related accommodations in order to participate in this meeting, please contact Jen Royer, Iowa City
Public Library, at 379-887-6003 or iennifer-rover@icpl.org. Early requests are strongly encouraged to allow sufficient time to
meet your access needs.
Review: FY25 Holiday Calendar. Rocklin noted the request to close early on February 20, 2025. Carman
said this would be an opportunity for training with other corridor library staff. The training begins with a
keynote presentation in the morning and breakout sessions in the afternoon for staff collaboration that
do similar work. Carman said the Iowa Library Association (ILA) conference is the only time these groups
regularly get together. Carman said there is cross -over in regional library work, and it would be nice to
get the different groups together. All participating libraries will contribute financially to the event and
Cedar Rapids Public Library will provide the facility. Carman said staff who attend the training will be
offsite all day and asked to close the library early at 6 pm so public service point shifts can be
consolidated. Rocklin asked how many staff members would attend. Carman said 20-23. Carman noted
ICPL is the only library in the corridor not closing for the day; Carman felt keeping some service in the
region available was important. Carman polled staff for their interest in attending the optional training
and there were a number who preferred to work at ICPL. Stevenson thought this was great and would
love to have a similar opportunity in his own profession. Carman said depending on how it goes he may
ask again next year. Raeburn asked if other libraries are closed for President's Day and noted ICPL does
not. Mangano said it was an AFSCME change. The library used to have holiday hours on President's Day
and when Juneteenth was adopted, they opted to not have them. Boothroy said regional collaboration
is a great idea and she liked the solution to keep the library open for part of the day. Boothroy shared
she supported it. Stevenson made a motion to approve the FY25 Holiday Calendar. Shultz seconded.
Motion passed 6/0.
Staff Reports.
Director's Report. Carman shared InService Day was a positive and successful event. Carman thanked
the trustees who attended and noted staff did a great job staying engaged. Carman said it is a
meaningful opportunity to learn together.
Carman noted his report highlighted post -holiday tech help and mentioned that the library does tech
support all the time, and library staff are tremendously patient and knowledgeable in the Digital Media
Lab, and all service points.
Carman noted the Public Libraries of Johnson County Legislator Reception went well. The legislators
who came are supporters of libraries and were curious to learn more. Carman said it is always a good
experience to share library work being done and is good practice in engaging with legislators. Carman
shared next year it will be hosted by the Iowa City Public Library. Boothroy asked if legislators identified
any issues they anticipate coming up in regards to library services or libraries. Carman shared this was
discussed and there was assumption that some of the failed legislation from the last session will be
brought back. Carman said that tax reform is on everyone's mind and the impact it will have on
municipal budgets, and then within that to libraries. Carman said the intersection of those dollars going
down and further legislation against library service will create a very different environment for library
services in Iowa.
Departmental Reports: Children's Services. Pilkington thanked Johnk for a tote of trains and tracks,
and shared it was a big hit.
Collection Services. Mangano shared the Adventure Pass program is suspended and the State Library is
searching for an alternative reservation system. Rocklin asked if it is a selection question. Mangano
If you will need disability -related accommodations in order to participate in this meeting, please contactlen Royer, Iowa City
Public Library, at 379-887-6003 or iennifer-royer@icpl.org. Early requests are strongly encouraged to allow sufficient time to
meet your access needs.
agreed.
IT. None.
Development Report. Roche gave a fundraising update. At the time of the January Board report
release $36,000 had been raised, since then $53,000 of the $85,000 had been raised. Roche said the
number of new donors has expanded. Roche said her team has been trying to reactivate donors who
haven't donated since 2017 and many are returning. Rocklin shared he recently heard that about 20% of
new donors give again in the next year and asked what things make donors more likely to give again
the next year. Roche said thanking them and making sure they get their tax letter in a timely way. Roche
said the donor list has been divided into tiers for additional contact with donors.
President's Report. Rocklin shared that he attended InService Day and it was impressive. Rocklin
said staff were highly engaged.
Announcements from Members. None.
Committee Reports.
Advocacy Committee. None.
Finance Committee. None.
Foundation Members. None.
Communications.
News Articles. None.
Consent Agenda. Boothroy made a motion to approve the Consent Agenda. Shultz seconded.
Motion passed 6/0.
Set Agenda Order for January Meeting. Rocklin said the January meeting will review the
strategic plan update, 2nd quarter finances and statistics, and departmental reports. In February the
Library Director evaluation will be held.
Adjournment. Rocklin adjourned the meeting at 5:23 pm.
Respectfully submitted,
Jen Royer
If you will need disability -related accommodations in order to participate in this meeting, please contactlen Royer, Iowa City
Public Library, at 379-887-6003 or iennifer-royer@icpl.org. Early requests are strongly encouraged to allow sufficient time to
meet your access needs.
,AW* IOWA CITY
sF-IW PUBLIC LIBRARY
Board of Commissions: ICPL Board of Trustees
Attendance Record
Name
Term
Expiration
2/22/2024
2129/2024
3128/2024
4/25/2024
5/2312024
6/27/2024
7/25/2024
8/22/2024
9/26/2024
10124/2024
11/2112024
12/19/2024
1/23/2025
Boothro , Bonnie
6/30/2029
X
X
OE
OE
X
X
X
X
OE
Johnk DJ
6/30/2025
OE
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
OE
OE
Massa Jose h
6/30/2027
X
OE
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
OE
X
X
Matthews Claire
6/30/2023
X
X
X
OE
X
X
X
OE
X
X
X
O
X
Paetzold Robin
6/30/2023
X
X
X
X
X
OE
OE
X
X
X
X
OE
X
Raeburn John
6/30/2027
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
OE
X
X
X
X
Rocklin Tom
6/30/2525
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
OE
X
X
X
X
Shultz Hannah
6/30/2025
X
X
X
X
OE
OE
X
X
X
X
X
X
OE
Stevenson Daniel
1 6/30/2027
1 X
I X
I X
I OE
I X
I X
I X
I X
I X
I OE
I X
I X
I X
KEY:
X Present
O Absent
OE Excused Absence
NM No Meeting Held
R Resigned
TE Term Expired
Item Number: 4.e.
a
CITY OF IOWA CITY
"QR T-4 COUNCIL ACTION REPORT
February 18, 2025
Public Art Advisory Committee: December 5
Attachments: Public Art Advisory Committee: December 5
Approved, p.1
Public Art Advisory Committee Mtg, 121512024
Minutes
Public Art Advisory Committee
December 5, 2024
Emma J Harvat Hall
Public Art Advisory Committee
Members Present: Leslie Finer, Juli Seydell Johnson, Andrea Truitt, Sophie Donta,
Ron Knoche, Anita Jung, Rachel Kinker
Members Absent: Nate Sullivan, Jeremy Endsley
Staff present: Rachel Kilburg Varley, Ashley Platz, T'Shailyn Harrington
Public Present: none
Call to Order
Truitt called the meeting to order at 3.32 p.m.
Public Discussion of Any Item Not on the Agenda
None.
Consider minutes of the November 7, 2024 PAAC meeting.
Knoche noted the election of the chair and vice -chair occurred at the October meeting
and needed to removed from the November meeting minutes. Johnson moved and
Kinker seconded that the amended minutes from the November 7, 2024, meeting be
approved. Motion passed (7-0).
Consider 2025 Public Art Matching Grant Program Materials and Budget Amount
Kilburg Varley noted the changes directed at the November 7, 2024 meeting were
incorporated. She shared that $15,000 was budgeted for the grant program.
Additionally, current capacity in the budget's "opportunity fund" line item would allow for
a total of up to $25,000 to be awarded through the 2025 funding round if the Committee
chose to fund more than $15,000 in projects. Committee members discussed and
recommended an edit to the online application form so that applicants have the ability to
expand the size of the text fields. Additionally, they agreed that approving an amount of
"up to $25,000" was desirable, and that they could decide upon the appropriate level at
or below that depending on the quantity and quality of applications received.
Jung moved to approve the final 2025 grant materials and a funding amount up to
$25,000. Finer seconded. Motion passed (7-0).
Jung asked if there was a list of public art maintenance projects. Kilburg Varley
reminded the Committee that a Condition Assessment Survey is underway and will be
completed in Spring 2025. This Survey will include a condition rating and ranking of
Public Art works that are in most need of repair or maintenance.
Approved, p.2
Public Art Advisory Committee Mtg, 121512024
Public Art Input Survey
Rachel noted that, as part of the continuing process to collect information that will inform
an updated Public Art Strategic Plan, a Public Art public input survey was recently
issued and will remain open through early January. The goal is to receive at least 500
responses. She reviewed the various strategies that will be used to market and promote
the survey among the public, including news release, social media, and cross -promotion
with other departments. The Committee suggested sharing the survey with local arts
organizations and on the buses for additional promotion.
January Meeting
Kilburg Varley noted that the January meeting falls on the day after New Year's Day.
Additionally, there are not currently any known agenda topics. As such, she invited the
Committee to decide if they would like to hold the meeting as scheduled, reschedule, or
cancel the meeting. After discussion, the Committee decided to cancel the January
meeting.
Staff Updates
First, Kilburg Varley provided an update on the South District Bus Stop Bench Project.
She shared that the Public Works staff will be assisting the artist with final fabrication
and installation. That team met earlier in the week to develop a plan for installation,
which should take place in the next couple of weeks, weather permitting. She also noted
that a ribbon -cutting for the sculpture would probably take place later in the Spring when
the weather is better. The Committee suggested a possible partnership with Party in the
Park for the ribbon cutting.
Finally, Kilburg Varley noted that she will be beginning maternity leave soon and
introduced alternative staff members, Ashley Platz and T'Shailyn Harrington, who will be
assisting with agenda prep and staffing of the Committee and administration of the 2025
Matching Grant funding round.
Old or New Business
None.
Adjournment
Knoche moved to adjourn at 3.52 pm. Jung seconded. Motion passed (7-0).
Approved, p.3
Public Art Advisory Committee Mtg, 121512024
Public Art Advisory Committee
Attendance Record
2023-2024
Name
Term
Expires
917/23
11/2/23
1217/23
1/4/24
4/4/24
6/6/24
8/1/24
9/5/24
10/3/24
1117/24
12/5/24
Ron Knoche
N/A
X*
X
X
X*
X*
X
X
O/E
X
X*
X
Juli Seydell-
N/A
X
O/E
X*
X
O/E
X
X
X
X*
X
X
Johnson
Steve Miller
12/31/23
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
---
---
---
---
Eddie
12/31/24
0
---
---
---
---
---
---
---
---
---
---
Boyken
Andrea
12/31/25
X
X
X
O/E
X
O/E
X
X
X
X
X
Truitt
Anita Jung
6/30/23
X
X
X
X
O/E
X
X
X
0
X
X
Jenny
12/31/23
O/E
0
X
---
---
---
---
---
---
---
---
Gringer
Jeremy
12/31/25
0
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
O/E
X
O/E
Endsley
Nate
6/30/26
X
X
X
O/E
X
X
X
O/E
X
O/E
O/E
Sullivan
Leslie Finer
12/31/26
---
---
---
---
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
Rachel
12/31/27
---
---
---
---
X
X
O/E
X
X
O/E
X
Kinker
Sophie
12/31/26
---
---
---
---
---
---
---
---
---
X
X
Donta
Key
X
= Present
X*
= Delegate attended
0
= Absent
O/E =
Absent/Excused
---
= Not a member