HomeMy WebLinkAbout1996-01-23 TranscriptionJanuary 23, 1996 Council Work Session 6:45 PM
Council: Nov, Baker, Kubby, Lehman, Norton, Thornberry, Vanderhoef.
Staff: Atkins, Helling, Karr, Fosse, Milkman, Shank, O'Neil,
Meisel, Yucuis, Shaffer, Craig.
Tapes: 96-12, side 2; 96-14, all; 96-15, all.
Woito/ Naomi, before I leave may I clarify the voting of the
Conference Board ..... State Code provides that each unit of
the voting for the Conference Board which is made up of the
county, city and school board. There are only three votes and
each unit has one vote. The majority of the members of the
members of the particular unit present constitutes the vote of
the unit.
Nov/ For example, if we had five members present, three votes would
be considered a unit.
Woito/ Of the council,
got to be two out
all I have.
correct. And then to pass anything, it has
of three of the units to pass it. That is
Reports from Boards and Commissions 96-12 S2
AIRPORT COMMISSION 96-12 S2
Howard Horan/ Good evening.. Howard Horan from the Airport
Commission .... We are off to what we think is a really great
Master Plan .... appreciate your support. Just to let you know
about some IDOT grants that we have. We are working on a
fencing project to entirely enclose the airport... six foot
security fence that will be funded 70% by the state and 30% by
us ..... And state also will help with a lighted wind-t and
wind sock... Airport terminal renovation... ADA is what is
motivating us .... Look forward to making it a more public use
building .... We are moving ahead on the new hangar building..
corporate hangar .... modest sized two engine corporate
propeller driven aircraft .... very very powerful .... We are
moving ahead on that on the understanding that it has to pay
for at least principle and interest .... Next couple of years
we have to look forward to renovating the shop building, the
FBO space .... cinder block building .... probably next 2-3
years we will be looking for ways to put some capital
improvements in that building. We may be asking for some help
there.
Kubby/ ...not be part of the Master Plan?
Horan/ No. The Master Plan, I think everybody is current with that.
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We are looking forward ..... next public meeting is at 7:00
..... I believe that McClure wants to have a preliminary
report ...... FAA approval ....
Nov/ So, do you expect FAA approval by the April 17
Horan/ I am not sure we will have it entirely by 1st of April.
think that was their original target date ....
Thornberry/ They have been working with FAA on an ongoing basis,
right?
Horan/ ...yeah.
Thornberry/ Shouldn't be any big changes when the FAA sees the
final plan?
Horan/ Barely a ripple.
Norton/ What do we get from the FBO? Revenue?
Horan/ Yes. He rents space in the terminal building .... and we get
a piece of the fuel... nickel a gallon.
Kubby/ So once this space, the FBO space is improved,... contract
allow for that rent to be increased based on higher quality
space?
Horan/ He has one more f~ve year extension. We will negotiate that
a year from now .....
Thornberry/ (Can't hear).
Horan/ I think there will discussion about that.
Lehman/ Might be nice to have that discussion prior to renovating-
Horan/ .... feel like it is our responsibility. Is there a way to
build the FBO a different building, a little bit better
organized for his purposes, keeping the rents where they ought
to be... and making the terminal a much more public use
building .... What exactly is the best public use of it is
undefined for me at this point.
Norton/ Would it be to his economic advantage to improve that
facility now? ...paint it, fix the walls.
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Horan/ ...That is not the way our current tenant feels.
Thornberry/ The current tenant rents space from the city? The
entire building that the FBO is in is a city municipal
building and he rents some of that space? .....
Horan/ A vast majority of it .....
Norton/ So it would be to his advantage to have a nice pilot's
lounge and so on .....
Thornberry/... It is still a municipal building.
Nov/ Sounds as if before you start renovating the building, you
could negotiate the contract earlier. There is nothing to
prevent that, is there?
Horan/ No, I guess not .... negotiations.. difficult ....
Nov/
Lehman/ If we are going to spend money on the building, I think we
should find... increased rents ....
Thornberry/ At the end of this year before the five year option, is
there any language that can be changed that after the first
year, before the next five years or is it just sort of take it
as it is for another five years.
Horan/ I don't know the answer.
O'Neil/ It is pretty much fixed.
Kubby/ We were whispering about the Airport Levy. I would
personally like response from the Commission..°
Nov/ We would have you do a little research on that one before it
gets to any discussion. It is certainly a valid thing to
discuss. We ought to think about it.
Horan/ That pretty much is all I have to share with you.
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HUMAN RIGHTS COM~4ISSION 96-12 S2
Alison Ames Galstad/ I am chair of the HR Commission. I am here to
night to review the staffing needs that the HR Commission has
identified ..... Two other Commission members are also here
tonight°.. also Heather Shank .... As is outlined in our
proposal we have requested a full time investigator and a full
time clerical staff person to fulfill the responsibilities ....
I think Dale Helling has clearly addressed the increasing work
load... Almost all of the Coordinator's professional time is
devoted to processing formal complaints with very little time
left over for the myriad other responsibilities of the office
which included discussions with potential complainants,
community outreach efforts, public inquiries and educational
programs .... Consequence is that our current coordinator is
stretched .... 2-We are handling discrimination on a case by
case basis and doing very little community wide to improve the
situation .... The efficacious way to deal with discrimination
in a community is balancing education and prevention
efforts .... we are not achieving anything even close to that
sort of balance .... To combat employment discrimination we
need to provide education and information to the local
businesses on the Fair Employment Act... need to provide an
efficient complaint process .... To fight housing
discrimination we need to educate landlords and tenants
alike .... educational efforts must be ongoing ..... This also
requires that we stay on top of trends on housing
discrimination. Share one example of how the current lack of
resources impacts our ability to handle housing .... 1991...
need for survey of housing discrimination... clear it was time
to take another objective look at discrimination in housing.
It is now 1996 and over ten years since the last housing
discrimination survey. We simply don't have the time and the
resources .... Currently have a very competent and efficient
professional staff... Heather Shank. The current Commission is
enthusiastic.. dedicated .... We have simply analyzed our
situation and laid out our resources needed... We are earnest
about our work in human rights in Iowa City ....
Diane Martin/ I am one of the HR Commissioners. We have provided
you ... facts, figures... Racial discrimination.. 1989 29% of
the complaints filed to the HR Commission were about racial
discrimination. In FY95 that is up to 40% ..... The State's
Civil Rights Commission has as a mandate that each community
create a community diversity appreciation team. We have no
such team in our area .... It is just in the beginning
discussion stages. Goal for that team would be primarily
education... also serve as a rapid response group in the case
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of a hate crime ..... We ask that you give great consideration
to the request ....
Osha
Gray Davidson/ Commission member... sum up a couple things...
Part of our task ... is to do community outreach. There are a
number of project that we would like to do... haven't been
able to do. Martin Luther King Day .... The Chamber of Commerce
has expressed interest in helping business people understand
what they can and can't do in complying with the HR Ordinance
.... We need the resources... and also the time .... One thing
that is lost often in discussion of HR is the effect of
delaying justice ..... ramifications ..... businesses aren't
able to accept certain kinds of grants as long as a case i
spending. so we are hurting everybody in this process. A few
years ago, another city council here, asked the HR Commission
if we would put together an education program on the ADA and
take it out to the community...had to tell them no... don't
have time .... First priority.. adjudicating cases .... backlog
has grown. We are trying to initiate other programs...
Bridges ..... tentatively getting started .... Neighborhood
associations .... about what the ordinance means .... HR
Commission is not just a voice but an ear .... We are asking
for two positions. I want to make it clear that although we
need both of them, it is imperative that we have legal
assistance .... lacking to the worse degree at this point is
legal assistance to work on these cases .... then we also do
need clerical work ..... not a function that should fall to
commissions .... I don't think it is an exaggeration to say we
are in a crisis situation with the HR Commission at this
point. We have a backlog of some 50 cases. We just cleared up
cases from 1992 and 1993 ..... Sending a very poor message to
people of Iowa City... We need to send a better message. One
that says we do take human rights seriously .... Justice may
not be cheap. But the price of allowing discrimination to grow
in this community... it is... Price of allowing that to grow
is far costlier... need some help.
Nov/ Do we have any questions for the Commission?
Kubby/ ...priority .... $6,000 in
preparation which would free
position .... investigator ....
additional funding for minute
up some other time°.. 1/2 time
Nov/ The Commission has clarified that they would prefer an
investigator to clerical help.
Kubby/ In Dale's memo to us... funding for mediation .....
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Helling/ At this point it is funded out of the operating budget. If
we continue to pursue that... very successful... may have to
do another amendment to cover costs .... it is cost
effective ....
Kubby/ The operating budget that appears in the proposed budget
includes that money for mediation?
Helling/ Right .....
Nov/ Any other questions?
Thornberry/ I have one or two. 40% of the complaints most recently
have been of a racial nature. What percentage of those
complaints have been adjudicated at this point?
Galstad/ Most of the investigations are not done .....
Thornberry/ People come to you when they perceive a problem. After
six months.. disappointed... where do they go from there...
alternative ....
Galstad/ Once they have started the process .... (can't hear).
Thornberry/ What is a right to sue letter?
Galstad/
Heather Shank/ Mandated under law that if they are going to being
a discrimination complaint to go through a civil rights agency
of some kind whether local or state or federal .... If in that
certain amount of time it still hasn't been investigated,
which is generally the case, they can go and request of the
agency that they get a right to sue letter meaning that can
take that case out of the agency and go to district court ....
Generally attorneys, especially in Iowa City I have found,
don't do it. They wait for our investigation to be done first
Kubby/
Shank/ All they do, if the certain amount of time has passed, all
they have to do is send a letter and say we would like a right
to sue letter ....
Norton/ You do that without any particular investigation?
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Shank/ That is correct. I have only had one request .....
Thornberry/ So it would be far better, less expensive, simpler, and
quicker to mediate these problems?
Shank/ Yes... we have been incredibly successful... 7 out of 7 ....
they appear to be quite content... Carried out by outside
(can't hear).
Lehman/ ..... I think this community really does care ....
Shank/ .... I would prefer an investigator .....
Thornberry/ Is the HR Commission mandated by any state or federal
regulations to be in a city of this size of greater? ....
Shank/ When the law came down to affect local area .... 25,000-
Helling/ It was higher than that, 29- or 30 something. Clearly it
includes us. That was about five years ago. Any existing
Con%mission in a city that size had to remain in existence and
that is still if affect.
Nov/ Okay, ready to move on.
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SENIOR CENTER COMMISSION 96-12 S2
Nov/ Senior Center Commission is next.
Mary
Kathryn Wallace/ I am a commissioner with the Senior Center
Commission. First of all I want to congratulate the newly
elected and reelected members of the Commission and we look
forward to a positive working relationship with you... I am
impressed already with the dedication of Commissioners who
have been appointed... doing our charge and being the eyes and
ears of where you have sent us. I am here with another
commissioner, Terri Miller, who is Chairman of the Finance
Committee and I am also a member of the Fiance Committee. I
will be briefly talking to you about past at the Senior Center
and Terri will talk to you about the future that we hope to
have.
Nov/
We are here today
moving into that.
acceptable?
to talk about the future... interested in
Can we not review the past? Will that be
Wallace/ I would like...two minutes.
Kubb¥/ It think it helps us understand a trend...
Wallace/ I will be brief. There is a graying of America... one of
the largest population growths is occurring in the aging
population. So there is a need in the U.S. for Senior Centers
and the need is changing .... more and more people are growing
older... more individualistic... need to meet the needs of an
aging population... need diversity in programs that are
offered .... All old people are not alike... We are wanting to
share with you the growth that has happened at the Senior
Center ....
Nov/ I am asking you not to reiterate because we have read
everything you have given us.
Wallace/ .... May I just highlight... staff has increased by one
since our beginning in 1981. Number of volunteers has
increased from 178 to 600, giving 8400 hours of service in the
beginning to over 59,000 hours now. We are trying to meet the
charge that has been given to us .... Before people retire,
their greatest concern is will I have enough money .... people
make adjustments to that. After people retire, their greatest
concern is their meaningful use of time and time in
retirement... can be 20, 30, or 40 years. We are trying to get
to the meaningful use of time and highlighting the growth that
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we have had.
Terri Miller/ I am also on the Commission .... last year... asking
for additional staff person.. asking again .... You are not
able to fund everything that you would like to fund. Still
feel the need to put in an additional staff person in the
Senior center .... franchise money, hoping to get some help
with out video from that. So we haven't asked for that staff
person. We re still asking for the communications
specialist .... to help deal with our marketing...
communicating what we have to offer .... looked at options in
our progra~muing. o. We feel that with the aging population ...
different generations coming into the center with different
interests .... Staff... stretched very thin... We also had some
requests in our budget for some building improvements...
flooring improvements... Architectural fees... help give us
more space. We appreciate the fact that you have funded a lot
of our building requests in the past .... Thank you.
Nov/ Tell us.. more about what new space needs you are thinking
about.
Miller/ ...the mezzanine .... if that floor were extended through
the assembly room .... if a floor were put in...second floor...
That is what we would like to take a look at the feasibility
of that .... Assembly room which is used for the senior
dining... additional space... We also find the heating in that
room... difficulty ....
Kubby/ Last year there was a proposal to have a 1/4 time
communications specialist ..... for the Post. There was not
support to do that .... small amount, is that the direction to
go? .... volunteers are spending a lot of time.
Miller/ We have had a large increase in volunteers over the
years... allowing those volunteers to use their talent .... By
having additional staff that can work with those
volunteers ....
Thornberry/ Do you have anybody, a senior, at the Senior Center
that could fulfill this position?
Miller/ We have... 600 volunteers at the Senior Center... help
produce the Post. The problem with using volunteers .... if
they have an opportunity to go to Hawaii... they are going to
take that opportunity. A paid staff person will be there ....
volunteer... the turnover is a lot greater... person is not
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there consistently...
Thornberry/ Even a 1/4 time person... If this were funded... person
from another job? ....
Kubby/ ...may or may not have another position .....
Nov/
Norton/ ...The Center doesn't sound like it needs to be
marketed ....
Miller/ The Senior Center if very successful... kind of marketing
things that I was talking about... homebound... SCTV... bring
some of our programming into our home .....
Kubby/ ... hard place where we are in where residential development
doesn't pay for the services... increased demand... federal
cut backs ....
Miller/ Baby boomers coming to retirement age... increased demand
.... 31% of our population is in that age group.
Norton/ Strikes me we need to get serious about Channel 2, 4, and
8 or 2, 4, and 10 ....
Miller/ Large group of seniors who work on SCTV ....
Lehman/ What kind of revenues .... fees?
Miller/ That is a tough question ....
Kubby/ Maybe there is somebody from staff who can answer.
Meisel/ The fees that we generate are only for teachers who expect
to be paid. Whenever we can use volunteers, we use volunteers.
So what we use the fees for are to pay for either the teachers
or pay for he extras that go along with the class or
activities... We take a little bit extra we get from a
class...pays for the xeroxing or whatever... Kind of a wash.
It doesn't bring anything into the Center to pay for a staff
person .... Depends on your philosophy... charging for
anything.
Lehman/ .... to what point do we offer service... beyond a certain
point I really think it should be self generating and self
supporting .... We can't be everything to everybody.
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Miller/ Some of the activities are self sufficient... they do
charge fees within the group .... quilters do bring money into-
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Miller/ Money that comes in and really doesn't go back out again.
Bette Meisel/ Band members are willing to pay $60 which goes to
their instructor, music or whatever but the Center doesn't get
a penney of it. But we are the ones that have to do most of
the scheduling .... It is something that we need to talk about
Nov/ We all understand that you are not going to raise the budget
through fees ....
Nov/
We also understand that some volunteer services organization
add 10% administrative fee to whatever they are charging...
not an unheard of system .....
Kubby/ In the budget there is a line under Receipts for charges for
services, is that-
Arkins/ There are three receipts, Bette. Property tax being the
largest one, Charges For Services and then the Johnson County
contract .... Johnson County, by contract, pays 20% of the
operating budget for the Senior Center.
Meisel/ There is nothing under there that is coming from our
people. That money that they bring in just goes right back
into the programs.
Atkins/ They have numbers accounts where they are basically a
wash ...... We provide people, space and staff coordination.
There is really no other subsidy.
Nov/ Materials .... at expense of participants...
Meisel/ ..... put it towards new exercise equipment ....
Norton/ Do we have figures on the county usage. Are the numbers
right, 20%?
Meisel/ (Can't hear).
Kubby/
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Meisel/ Our problem is because it is a voluntary sign in .... have
a door counter .... But we have all kinds of people who don't
consider themselves as being the the Senior Center... refuse
to sign in .... Those who forget to sign in .... We could give
you something. How accurate it would be, I don't know .....
Miller/ Another source of funds we get is from bequests ...... spend
on equipment for the Center .... gift fund..° piano, exercise
equipment, computers ....
Nov/ Any further questions? Thank you.
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LIBRARY BOARD 96-14 Sl
Charles Trau/ President of the Library Board of Trustees. I would
like to thank you... opportunity talk tonight about the
proposed budget .... This is a basic budget necessary to meet
the ongoing services that we provide to the community. The
principle areas of increase are technological, technical
information services. Also in material collections, increased
costs that are projected to actually meet the present services
we provide as well as repairing and updating equipment .... In
addition there is an item , an increase for overtime pay ....
open... Sunday to coordinate... public school calendar and
also with regard to certain holiday Sundays which we have a
great significant number of users that we requested we open...
The Library Board°.. regrets that our request for certain
staff positions have not been proposed .... Fortunately we are
blessed with hardworking and dedicated staff and
volunteers ....
Kubby/ What is the amount on the overtime?
Trau/
Susan Craig/ I can't remember off the top of my head. I think ....
it costs about $500 to be open on a Sunday and so that
includes overtime pay for the permanent staff plus additional
hourly paid staff who comes in .... About $2500 for five more
Sundays.
Thornberry/ These openings on Sunday is your option, however?
Craig/ It was put into the budget request and manager included in
his budget proposals to you.
Craig/ ...open...Labor Day... and stay open on Sundays through mid-
June to help coincide with the public schools.
Nov/
Baker/ Clarification (can't hear). It says transfer from the
Computer Replacement Reserve. Where is the transfer coming
from?
Craig/ As I understand it, it comes from the city's operating
budget. It is transferred into a replacement fund to
eventually replace computers at the Library .... The
distinction is you don't have to have it spent at the end of
the year...carry it over .... Our main computer system, when we
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need to replace it ...cost several hundred thousand dollars.
So we need to accumulate over time that money.
Baker/
Atkins/ If you look under expenditures, it says Transfers Out. That
number will jive with the one down below... avoid those big
spikes in expenditures and particularly when it comes to
computer equipment where we have five years technologies ....
Kubby/
Atkins/ I would not recommend borrowing money for anything that
doesn't have a useful life of ten years or more. Computers are
about five years. That is why we do it with cash as opposed to
borrowing.
Baker/ Do you...have any other reserve funds?
Craig/ The other fund that is listed there, the Cable Channel
Replacement Fund, is a fund that we get some money from
franchise fee that is also put into a Equipment Replacement
Fund for the equipment related to our cable channel.
Baker/ (Can't hear).
Atkins/ Larry, if you are asking are there other library funds that
is not budgeted, the answer is yes.
Baker/ (Can't hear).
Atkins/ They get other funds... all specifically earmarked for a
very specific purpose ....
Baker/ (Can't hear).
Atkins/ The library has an independence because of under the law.
We do not treat it as a separate as we would an Enterprise
Fund and thereby budget a contingency.
Baker/ (Can't hear).
Atkins/ They could take the moneys that are ultimately appropriated
to them .... and set aside ....
Baker/
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Craig/ We don't call them reserve funds but as Steve said we do
have income that comes from a contract...from State of Iowa...
brings in between $40,000 and $50,000 a year and the Library
Board budgets that and prepares a budget. In the past it was
used for computer support... Development Office ....
Baker/
Craig/ Last year when we had to do the roof very suddenly, we had
to come and get permission to spend $24,000.
Arkins/ It came out of a contingency account.
Baker/ (Can't hear).
Kubby/ The reserve fund from bequests...
Craig/ Most of the requests the we receive go for the Development
Office and are probably .... most of them are usually earmarked
items... or to put into the endowment .... The materials budget
that we spend is augmented by $50,000 a year that comes from
the Library's endowment ..... Thank you.
Nov/
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HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE 96-14 S1
Linda Murray/ Chair of HCD Commission. For several years now...
local level that supportive services are a vital part of any
housing plan ..... As people work for becoming independent...
supportive service... means the difference... many forms...
Any kind of service that enables a person who is temporarily
receiving some kind of (can't hear) .... As the realization of
importance of supportive services grows on the local
level...funding on federal and state level is being cut ....
Financially responsibility for these kinds of services falls
more and more on shoulders of local agencies .... Ongoing
supportive services can only be paid out of CDBG Funds and not
out of the HOME Funds ..... It is estimated that there will be
a $50,000 available for allocation .... that is the maximum
amount ..... So far six groups have submitted applications for
these fund°.. total of about $100,000 .... Life Skills, EHP,
Mayor's Youth, JTPA, Kiddie Cab ..... and the Furniture Project
and all of those provide supportive services of some kind or
another. HCD requests that you consider allocating up to
$50,000 of GF for supportive services ..... Can't fund
everything that you would like to .... we hope people will be
your priority ....
Kubby/ So the total amount of 15% CDBG moneys is $50,000? That must
be after the Aid to Agencies.
Murray/ That must be after the Aid to Agencies.
Kubby/ So the committee has earmarked a certain amount of that 15%
for the categories supportive services (can't hear).
Murray/ That is the maximum amount of money that can
is left over after the Aid to Agencies. All of
that I mentioned fall into that category ....
be spent that
those groups
Kubby/ In the past... almost all of that 15% is for Aid to
Agencies?
Marianne Milkman/ Sometime yes and sometimes no... the 15%
fluctuates .... three years ago we decided... We never know
what our budget is going to be before you have to make your
budget .... We decided we would take a good average figure,
$105,000, and that is what we would plug in every year .....
This year... who knows what can happen in Washington .....
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BROADBAND TELECOMMUNICATIONS 96-14 S1
Steven Hoch/ I am a member of the BTC .... keep my comments to three
minutes .... As you may know the new franchise agreement allows
the city to collect up to $.50 per subscriber per month to
support local programming facilities .... last night... the
Commission voted unanimously to recommend to the council that
we begin collecting that fee. Let me tell you a couple of
things about the fee. First, in our negotiations with TCI, the
city has undertaken a needs assessment... the needs assessment
considerably exceeded the revenue that we will collect on this
fee .... If we begin this process of assessing the $.50 per
subscriber per month this can be changed at any point in time
by the council over the life of the agreement .... If the BTC
and council decide if these funds aren't being used
sufficiently... Thirdly, I would like to remind you that what
we are talking about is $6.00 per year per subscriber. It is
not an awful lot of money and the final point... is that for
those of you who are cable subscribers, you have probably have
noted that TCI on a quarterly basis often changes its fees
which it is allowed to do under federal regulations. TCI very
carefully calculates how much you can charge subscribers
versus when it is going to start losing subscribers and comes
up with a very elaborate formula. They.. have told us that
...if we don't collect that $.50 ... what they are going to do
is raise their fee by $.50 per subscriber per month .... TCI is
going to take out approximately $67 million out of Iowa City.
So we are asking them to return... a very small portion of
that fund for community programming ....
Kubby/ .... nine years... $.50 per subscriber per month, what that
number is that we could get versus TCI.
Hoch/ There are 16,000 subscribers .... $96,000 per year.
Norton/
Kubby/ At some point they will lose subscribers.
Hoch/ Remember they are subject to federal limitations as to what
they can charge...
Norton/ But when we add the $.50 ....
Hoch/ If we zeroed out what happens ...what the feds allow TCI to
be doing ......
Thornberry/
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Hoch/ It comes to the city ....
Atkins/ We would receive in the $.50... approximately $96,000 a
year... We have spoken with the folks at TCI. They are fully
prepared to do this now .... takes a nod of the heads. They are
prepared to go. They will put it on unless you tell them
otherwise.
Nov/ I see no reason not to.
Atkins/ My recommendation to you is take the $.50, run with it now.
The money will accumulate. As a matter of policy, how you
choose to appropriate it is yet to be decide. We will be
keeping tabs on it ....
Hoch/ At any point we can zero it out .....
Kubby/ In our documents... talked about it in terms of this is $.50
for community programming kind of activities .....
Atkins/ I guess the thing you need to go on record... Tell TCI,
collect the $.50 ..... Your policy... cable revenues are used
for cable related activity ....
Hoch/ .... just beginning the process of figuring out .... lots of
work for us to do in that area. This will just give us some
money ....
Atkins/ It cannot be spent without your approval.
Nov/ But it will be rolling into city coffers at the rate of once
a month?
Atkins/ ...monthly.
Nov/
Atkins/ It could accumulate forever .....
Hoch/
Atkins/ The $.50... important point of taking advantage as soon as
you can. I am sure they calculated that into their negotiating
position .... They are going to move that rate up to that
point.
Helling/ It is a pass through. It is specified that it will be used
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for local access. That is what TCI will be indicating in their
notice to subscribers .... there are a broad range of
options ....
Nov/ We did talk about this once before. We seem to be in
agreement-shall we say go ahead and do it?...
Kubby/ .... I have heard from people
feelings ..... point we should
choosing not to have a p.h ....
in both directions... mixed
conscientiously say we are
Hoch/ If council wants to have a series of hearings,
One of the problems .... we can't collect
retroactively ....
that is fine.
this money
Nov/ Karen, we can have public input on how the money can be spent
before we spend it .....
Baker/
Norton/
Thornberry/
Baker/ If the public comes down here in droves and says don't
collect it .... we can always then say no.
Kubby/ .... majority doesn't want it.
Baker/ ..... If this council decides we don't want the money, we
will give it back to TCI.
Council/ (All talking).
Nov/
I really believe that we do need public input and I think we
will get it when it comes time to say how we will allocate the
money.
Baker/ ...schedule a p.h. as soon as possible on the issues.
Atkins/
Cordell Jeppsen/ I am Chair of that Committee. We have had two
meetings so far... dealing with exactly this question of what
to do with those funds .... My understanding .... desirability
for additional public input .... Might be better... let us
formulate a recommendation for you so the public has something
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to digest ..... If you don't want the $.50 in 2-3 months, you
can tell them to turn it off ....
Baker/
Kubby/ ...getting input before we do it .... I think it is important
for us to talk about that possibility... combine it with the
fee itself .....
Norton/ An increase... benefit the users .... seems to me we are not
exactly taking it away from them ....
Hoch/ ...needs assessment surveys. Our needs are far greater than
what we could ever accommodate .... There is a great deal of
interest ....
Thornberry/ If we say we would like have that $.50, it doesn't got
to TCI. If we say we don't want $.50, TCI gets it.
Cordell/ They have a certain latitude by which they could set their
rates by the federal government .... they chose the highest
possible rates the fed allows them .... they balance that very
clearly ...cable subscriber...
Kubby/ ...they may have to go down...
Jeppsen/ It would be only good business sense to recoup as much as
the fed would allow them.
Nov/
Hoch/ They were pretty sensitive... on the bill...
Norton/
Jeppsen/ I think we can make an argument to the public .... why we
ought to collect it.
Nov/ They have already put a lie in for the franchise fee ....
Thornberry/
Jeppsen/ ... New agreement hasn't even gone into affect yet... We
are just figuring out how much money we have got ..... Going to
be a long series of discussions.
Helling/ In all of our discussions I think we all agree that
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pursuing this pass through idea that we took approach .... We
will collect this money if you say so and I think the product
that we deliver to the community is going of determine whether
or not the community is going to be willing to continue to pay
that. We understand that .... talking about enhanced services
Nov/ Thank you. Next item is Heritage Trees.
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HERITAGE TREES 96-14 S1
Cecile Kuenzli/ I am the member of the steering committee of
Heritage Trees and this is Kate Klaus... Some of you are
familiar with Heritage Trees .... briefly outline who we are
and what we have done. Organization of citizen volunteers...
worked to promote, preserve and replenish Iowa City's urban
forest. This is a public private cooperative venture for the
benefit of everyone... Up to date... 1994 volunteers
inventoried three oldest neighborhoods in Iowa City:
Northside, Goosetown and Longfellow Neighborhood. And also
Plum Grove area and Oakland Cemetery. They identified...
measures... mapped...assessed condition of trees. Neighborhood
associations and Friends of Historic Preservation all
contributed to the project financially as did the city
council... Neighborhood Services Coordinator assisted in
printing of maps and survey forms... classic example of public
private venture .... Produced four tree walk brochures .... Also
sponsored a tree pruning discussion-
Nov/ We have them.
Kuenzli/ Also sponsored a tree pruning workshop by Iowa State
Extension .... tree walk tour... What do we want. What are we
doing here tonight. We would like to extend the survey to the
other side of the river and do a tree inventory in the areas
of Manville Hts., Chautauqua Hts., Normandy Drive area, City
Park and crandic Park .... estimate this is going to cost
$10,000 ..... services of professional arborists..o purchase
and production of survey materials and to conduct volunteer
training .... Return... city will receive approximately $35,000
worth of volunteer time and labor and skills. I would like to
stress you are the only source of funding for this survey. The
City Forester... conference .... they will be no federal grant
moneys available for such projects .... responsibility for
caring for our local environment falls directly on volunteers,
local and state governments. We would also like you urge you
to continue support City Forester Terry Robinson's budget
requests .... His budget is still inadequate .... As Iowa city
continues to expand.. need for tree planting... Thank you.
Kubby/ What were the requests of the City Forester that were not
funded?
Atkins/ $600 in some misc. expense and $3,000 computer .....
Kubby/ If we wanted to fund this...Forester Budget? ....
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Atkins/ I suspect...Forestr¥ ....
Kuenzli/ .... $10,000.
Kate Klaus/ We have our own account with the city ....
Atkins/ It has to show up in the GF and transferred into that...
Kubby/ And you did not recommend one way or another on-
Atkins/ I don't recall discussing this ....
Kuenzli/ ...
Thornberry/ How long will this project take that you are proposing
for the west side? ....
Klaus/ We are planning to organize it and train people ..... this
year and the actual survey will take place in summer of '97
and that is when the volunteers will out. But it takes a fair
amount of time to get organized ..... get funding this year and
get everything in place .... next summer we can go... be done
by the end of the summer.
Thornberry/ $8,000 arborist, how long is he working for this
$8,000?
Klaus/ He works as long as he has to .... he recorded here that he
put in 89.25 hours at $40 an hour... he put in a great deal
more time .... He will do his work the summer that we
inventory.
Thornberry/
Klaus/ He goes out and he walks the street and assesses every tree
that the volunteers have already mapped .... proper
identification, age, height, and what kind of care program
that tree is going to need .... aging urban forest here .... He
looks very much at the health of trees .....
Norton/ How does your group relate to Terry? .....
Klaus/ All entered on data banks in the city so that this
information which he does have the time or manpower or
money... will be there so he can work out block by block a
long term maintenance program .... especially on public
land ....
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Norton/ ...You become an advisory commission to the Forester.
Klaus/ Yes, it is a coordinated effort .... Get funding to bring
people in once every 3-5 year as to do maintenance on old
canopy trees ....
Kuenzli/ .... volunteers.. put
welcomes out input.
Norton/ Solid data base ....
Kubby/ .....
Kuenzli/ Neighborhood association...
time ....
Kubby/ Chamber .....
in roughly 1,640 hours .... he
$500 each contributed last
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Kubby/ ...
Klaus/ We talked ....
Norton/ Heritage Tree Endowment Fund.
Nov/ There is a Natural Heritage Trust of some sort...
Kubby/ (Can't hear).
Norton/
Klaus/ There is an organization in Marion, Iowa .... Trees Forever
and I can contact them about what funding may be left .....
Kuenzli/ Trees Forever in Marion only grants one grant to a
community and last year it was Paul Davis .... City Park
received some of the benefit of those funds .... We can apply
for it this year ....
Nov/ Is the council interested in a short break? I am seriously
considering moving the Johnson County Museum up .... agreeable
with everyone ....
Kubby/
Nov/ The order ....
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JOHNSON COUNTY MUSEUM 96-14 S2
Laurie Robinson/ Executive Director of Johnson County Historical
Society... private non-profit organization... operates
Heritage Museum .... our mission is simple, to collect and
preserve and teach local history. We serve all the people of
the county .... Our programs are diverse... collections..
publications... museum.. Irving Weber Award... lunch series...
School visits .... Traveling Chest... History Day Camp .....
Last several years .... more than 12,000 in 1994 .... 1195...
street undergoing a three week paving project... almost 70% of
our members and program participants are Iowa City
residents .... sense of history that makes a community seem
like home .... Past two years City of Iowa City has supported
3% of our annual operating budget .... We expect our operating
expense to top $120,000. Please consider increasing this
year's level of support to $5,000, an increase of $2,000 .....
help cushion impact of decreasing federal support for
museums... By increasing our support... $5,000 would represent
a cost of only $.07 to each resident of Iowa City .... local
history is the way we tell our own story and create our own
roots .... Thank you.
Baker/ ....
Robinson/ Plum Grove is an estate that is owned by the people of
the State of Iowa...administered by the State Historical
Society of Iowa and is locally managed by the Johnson County
Historical Society ..... 28E agreement ....
Lehman/
Robinson/ A few years ago I tried to talk to the City of Iowa City
about having some kind of in kind reciprocal relationship...
we have a very small amount of money to manage Plum Grove
with .... In Coralville .... plows...mows...in kind stuff for us
which frees up the money we would have to spend doing that...
If we had some assistance for Plum Grove, caring for the
grounds...then the money that we are now spending on mowing,
which is substantial, could be freed up for extending hours or
having it open more ....
Baker/ (Can't hear) .... open space ....
Robinson/ There are a lot of different individuals in charge now
and a lot of things have changed .... encourage you to bring it
up... continuing problem and that is the security of the
house .... Also there are ongoing archaeologists at Plum
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Grove .... Summer '93 .... opened up in back of Plum Grove and
it is sinking ..... old cistern ....
Nov/
Robinson/
Baker/ (Can't hear).
Robinson/
Vanderhoef/ Open space... archaeologists ....
Nov/ Last group: CVB, Iowa Arts Fest and Jazz Fest .... funded last
years from Hotel Motel Tax revenues .... continue with what we
have on the list.
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JAZZ FESTIVAL 96-14 S2
Nov/ Jazz Fest .... five minutes.
Mark
Ginsberg/ I am a human being here in Iowa City. I have a wife,
three kids, house and a business .... I also have a passion for
the community... seeing this community continue to thrive both
economically and culturally .... as a businessman... how
operating expenses relate to how much money the business is
making ...... make investment in not just my program but in the
CVB and Iowa Arts Festival and Friday Night Concert Series ....
cultural and economic inventory of this community. I think any
business that stops buying inventory dies .... We have to
continue to invest in the inventory of our community...
people .... Iowa City Jazz Festival is a completely volunteer
effort. We raise money to pay for artists fees only ....
marketing, advertising, insurance .... in kind... artists fees
are recruited by private funding. We need support from the
community... not only ongoing support .... closing down
streets... Fire..Police Department.. also like to see a line
item on the Hotel Motel Tax, that or a $.25 hour raise in
parking fees ..... see if who is listening... I think a line
item specifically for programs that benefit the community.
Every dollar that is spent in the Jazz Festival... we see a
50:1 return .... 15,000 people... over a two day period .... It
is a free event .... All of the food tents sold out of their
food... businesses that were open did benefit .... open to do
business... What is philanthropic is that we get involved in
the community .... asking for support here... give us a line
item .... on Hotel Motel Tax that may be separate from the CVB
so that while they are trying to do what they are trying to
do .... we can concentrate on improving our event without
taking anything away .... I would like consideration of a
separate line item... 20-25% range.
Nov/ Mark, do you have a complete line item budget for this event?
Ginsberg/ Yes, I do.
Nov/ Can we see that. We saw a list of what is happening ....
Ginsberg/ I can break it down. We are spending $34,500 in artists
fees this year. I don't have a line item break down of the
bands with me ....
Nov/
Can we get a break down of so much money came it from
individual contributors .... renting tents .... this that and
the other plus where it went?
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Ginsberg/ We are not that organized .... we lump in general revenues
and general expenses... there is a break down that we put
together and I can break it down that way .... Before I do that
I want you to know that success shouldn't stop you from
continuing to fund programs like this. Because of the efforts
we make in going out and recruiting funding, I don't want that
to be a disincentive to continue to give to a program because
our program will die without public support.
Nov/
We are just saying that when we have given to other groups, we
have received a completed budget and so would you please send
us something ....
Ginsberg/ I can do that ....
Nov/
... whatever you have in the way of breaking down .... You
would certainly know you had X food tents and each one brought
in so much money and you could then give us a total.
Ginsberg/ ...I don't have it broken down that way... lumped into a
general revenue line item.
Nov/ You don't know how many food tents you had?
Ginsberg/ I can go back and look at the checks .... It is in a
spread sheet that has general revenue. The predominant
funding... coming from private contributors ....
Kubby/ .... We don't always ask for that .... It has not been a
policy ....
Ginsberg/
Nov/ If you can do one year.
Ginsberg/... I can break it down... business contributions...
concessions... Another thing .... WBGO out of New Jersey picked
us up .... Jazz Set .... audio .... This was rebroadcast four
times in '93 and '94 .... stations across the country... 3 1/2
million people
Council/ (All talking) .....
Ginsberg/ We paid them $1,000 to bring in a
it .... We had to pay extra to the bands...
an engineer to come ....
technician to mix
We had to pay for
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Nov/ Do we have questions for Mark?
Kubby/ Consider .... portion of budget was artists fees. Was that
above and beyond the $5,000?
Ginsberg/ I would like you to consider as much as you can possibly
give. You are asking me to define a fee... I would like to
increase it but at least...same level as last year ..... This
year's festival is absolutely phenomenal.
Kubby/ Concerned about .... trend is to grow and grow and grow. At
some point it becomes a different atmosphere then your
original intent .....
Ginsberg/ (Plays radio station recording) .... I am not ...
interested in growing it beyond the two day event. Our focus
is very intense... we like to keep it that way... also going
to go out and try to reach for more expensive talent ....
providing a public service as well as providing an economic
benefit for the community ....
Nov/ Send it to Marian Karr and we will all get copies from her.
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Liz
ARTS FEST 96-14 S2
Dueland/ Director for Iowa Arts Festival .... sent you
information and I will be very brief... As I outlined, this
next Iowa Arts Festival will take place the last two weekends
of June .... It started eight years ago... It now is a separate
non-profit .... Originally started to be a promotional vehicle
for all of the community ..... We are taking a much more active
role this year .... many changes this year... putting together
an Iowa Arts Festival Orchestra.. radio variety show... grand
stand .... In the format going to three weekends what we are
doing is increasing our programming by about 25 hours ....
Increasing last years artists fees...to about $20,000 this
year ..... Our Board of Directors .... undergoing... long range
plan... make sure we are very community based .... local
involvement.. all segments... partnerships ...... We have just
a wealth of talent .... actors, artists .... working closely
with the University ..... I could go on and on and on .... I am
very excited about the festival. We will continue to build up
partnerships .... Bring in an Iowa alumni who has gone
nationally .... that is from Iowa .... I have a desire... all
arts... encourage year around participation arts .... Idea ....
To come up with banner that say Celebrate Summer Arts ....
working together with other art organizations .... promote the
cultural diversity .... As you can seefromthe budget that I
submitted $60,000 is operating budget money .... work.. on
building up a reserve which was depleted due to some staff
changes over the past year ...... We really watch our pennies
and $5,000 is a significant portion of our budget.
Norton/
Dueland/ .... feature Latin bands .... culinary area... Working with
Office of International Services ........ We are working to
include that .....
Nov/
Dueland/ ...we want to position ourselves as a regional... benefits
our business community... arts .... We feel that right now with
the amount of money that we have to spend .... We really have
a wealth of resources .... It is my passion to have this
festival remain true to its name, Iowa Arts Festival ....
Nov/ Could you tell us why you are increasing your cash
balance .... ?
Dueland/ We ended in '94 (can't hear). When the Festival ends in
June we pay all of our events services, insurance fees...
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artists fees... We have to be able to (can't hear) ....
Nov/
Dueland/ o.. Grant... Department of Cultural Affairs...
Kubby/
Dueland/ ... We do the best we can to pay ....
Baker/ (Can't hear).
Dueland/ ...ICPL, they actually donated the (can't hear) ....
benefit. We don't compensate them either ....
We don't pay everyone ....
Baker/
Dueland/
Norton/ Aren't the artists exhibiting as well? .....
Dueland/ ..... like on the bank .... jury show...
Nov/
they
IC Chamber .....
means to show
their work .... We have performers in so many different
levels .......... professional ...... high school orchestra ....
We have many different situations with artists. I am excited
that the festival really is diverse enough .......
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CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU 96-14 S2
Wendy Ford/ (Handout) First of all... Director of the Iowa
City/Coralville CVB. I will start right off, I just came from
a four hour planning session at our Board of Directors ....
Thank you to Naomi and her support as a member of the Bureau
Board of Directors... we have enjoyed working...
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Wendy Ford/ Look forward to sharing with you about the CVB and It's
growth as well. On behalf of the entire Board of Directors, I
am here .... to encourage your continued support of marketing
tourism for the Iowa City area. The CVB has been funded by the
Hotel Motel Tax collections of Iowa City and Coralville since
its inception in 1982. Until the last FY the city's formula
had been to fund the bureau at 25% of the collection for the
year ...... I will ask you to take a look at your handouts
(Iowa City/Coralville Convention & Visitors Bureau Statistics;
Iowa City Hotel Motel Tax FY 94, 95, 96.) First one shows some
brand new statistics that we have put together rightfromour
own office ..... number of walk in visitors that we have been
assisting... Just since we have been in... substantial growth
in numbers of people .... This last year showed a 277% increase
in those numbers... July in this year... over 1,000 visitors
in one month. I am proud to say that even in slow travel
months... over 450 visitors... for visitors information ....
easy accessibility. Next page are statistics from U.S. Travel
Data Center Study ..... bold column. Shows that travel
generated expenditures topped $112 million for 1994. We are
talking about Iowa's third largest industry .... People
employed by tourism in Johnson County ... topped over 2,000
..... I will let you just peruse at your leisure the Iowa
Welcome Center Survey Results .... Lastly, on the back sheet,
I have a little table of Iowa City Hotel Motel Tax for three
of the last FYs ..... At this point in the year we are running
a little bit flat ..... 0.3% increase over last year ..... CVB
because of the $10,000 earmark by the council last year is
running at 7°8% deficit from their funding at the same point.
We are running a little bit behind, we are doing more, and we
expected to do even more .... Call me .... After last year's
budgeting session was complete there were several comments by
council members .... I would like you to think about that
process again. The CVB walks a very thin line. Please
understand that our Board of Directors feels that funding
festivals is merited ..... hopes for their continued funding
... but not at the expense of marketing the area to those
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visitors .... Our Board also would like to reinstate the CVB's
own funding program... we had our own funding program .... for
local organizations as well... Over the last 10 years over
$49,000 were awarded to various organizations, large and small
.... One of our recipients...JoAnne Higgins, race director for
Old Capital Criterium, was one of the recipients... one that
really facilitated that kind of event ..... draws a lot of
people .... We also promoted especially the use of our funding
program to as seed money for small conventions... 100 people
spending three days draws a minimum of $30,000 into the
community and that is before the economic 2.5 factor or
whatever it is that trickles down .... We focus on those local
groups in encouraging them to hold their state and regional
conventions in Iowa .... Hancher visitors coming for one
event .... and coming back for another .... show them what a
great place we do have. Every visitor that comes in for a
convention .... is free to use our publications which promote
all those yearly events... We also produce a calendar of
events .... Funding festivals is great but funding them from an
established well working promotional agency for the community
somewhat undermines the mission of CVB .... Hotel Motel Tax
dollars are very good dollars for growing the tourism product
in the area because those dollars come in in the pockets of
our visitors. Unless we continue the flow so visitors, we risk
losing the potential income that Hotel Tax dollars have for
us. That is very important that we use Hotel Tax Dollars to
promote over night visitor stays because the over night stays,
that is usually the people traveling from at least an hour
away are the only ones that will generate that Hotel Motel Tax
...... Just a couple of more points...I have used the analogy
of a farmer eating his seed corn .... clearly illustrates how
using up too much of a fund like Hotel Motel Tax dollars
without using a portion of it to re-seed or seed new Hotel
Motel Tax dollars put you at risk for losing ground .... What
the CVB is asking for is simply a reinstatement of the full
25% with no council earmarking of the Hotel Tax so that we can
maintain a competitive edge in marketing the community ....
Secondly a long range commitment to the CVB and the 2100
employees of the Johnson County tourism industry.
Kubby/ Is the Bureau planning to reinstate the local festival
grants?
Ford/ Meaning our own community promotional funding program? .....
Yes we are and we realize that some of the criteria ..... may
not have been to your liking. We are very willing to work with
the council to come up with criteria that would satisfy you as
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well. Obviously our chief mission is to grow tourism so that
we can grow Hotel Motel Tax dollars and one of the ways that
we felt having a program most worthwhile for everybody was to
insure that the dollars were used for promoting .....
Kubby/ And it was really to promote outside a certain radius
outside of Iowa City ....
Ford/ That might have been a stumbling block. One which is very
negotiable .... be happy to sit down and work out some details.
Nov/
I seem to remember there was a subcommittee that was going to
work on grant program. Do you remember what amounts they were
suppose to work with?
Ford/ The proposal last year was an amount equal to the greatest
amount the Bureau had ever awarded and that was $7,500. I know
in the year that we budgeted the $7,500 grant .... we had
budgeted for $10,000 ..... Any play between there is definitely
worthy of consideration.
Kubby/ Money was distributed among many different festivals .....
Ford/ Per year over ten years .... value of being a recipient of one
of those smaller amounts ......
Nov/
...Thank you. I am assuming we are not going to make all of
these decisions today .... We should go home and restudy the
material and re-think and come back and make a decision.
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Council Time 96-14 S2
1. Kubby/ There are two things I am interested in getting some more
information... 1-Transit. Possibility of having family bus
passed similar to a swim pass idea and it sounded kind of
intriguing. How could that work... school age people...
2. Kubby/ The other one. The Police Department has requested that
you recommend that we go with $410,000 for computers?
Atkins/ Computer upgrade .... that is why we carved it up into three
years.
Kubby/ I would like to understand what that system is about because
part of me wants to say maybe they should have $380,000
computer and that other money can be put into our reserve or
spent on some other items that we have been talking about.
Atkins/ I will get you the details on that. We did split it into
three years .... I will get you a memo on that.
3. Kubby/ Last night in our Transit discussion... two items we were
going to get back to. It seems now is the time... put things
out to the public... that was the spread of options on the
monthly pass and the other one was the... amount of service at
night. Do you have time scheduled at our informal to talk
about it ....
Norton/ Concerned about is exactly the form that that is going to
be presented in the p.h ..... considering options ....
Atkins/ Let me understand what I heard you say last night when we
talked about the amount of service and the spread of the
options. We were to take the $20- & $22-, calculate those
numbers accurately... then there was a request for what does
partial night time service reduction mean and we were to
prepare something that gave you at least some kind of an
option to work on. That is what I understood you wanted from
us. We haven't finished it.
Kubby/ I thought we had only looked at that $75,000 figure.
Atkins/ I am using that as a target but I am assuming that it is
not a hard and fast target .... you indicated the possibility
of two loops or something similar to that.
Norton/ ...see $75- and $100- level ....
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Atkins/ When you gave me that number it wasn't hard and fast .... we
will prepare those in a fashion and let you react to them.
Nov/
And you are going to prepare something in writing about all
the things we talked about yesterday. But would you review the
Transit pass costs that we talked about. I don't remember
hearing that many.
Atkins/ The Transit pass. The budget proposal calls for $.75 and
$25. For each dollar reduction in the pass .... is a $12,000
loss in revenue ....
Nov/
Atkins/ My impression... as a council policy option was a reduction
in that pass that you had not settled on it. I showed $22 on
the chart but it was still subject to debate .... It is a $25
proposal... I can outline those real quickly.
Kubby/ Hard to educate the public ....
Atkins/ We can prepare a range of numbers ....
Kubby/ If we give some specifics in helps...
Atkins/ Maybe we can put together some sort of a range... handout
...... The in what everybody said without committing you
because the p,h. purpose .... heard you say to me we want to
hear what the folks have to say.
Kubby/ Range we talked about last night was $20 to $24.
Lehman/
Norton/ Why do they have to know the $25 proposal?
Atkins/ It is in the proposed budget...
Norton/
Arkins/
Lehman/ I talked to Kelly Hayworth and Mayor of Coralville and they
would really like $24.
Atkins/ That is something to keep in mind.
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Lehman/
Atkins/ They haven't had their hearing yet either.
Thornberry/ How did that meeting go today?
Baker/ Could we save that.
Vanderhoef/ What I would like to offer here on that pass price if
the public hears the $12,000 for each dollar difference in the
pass price .... makes some difference on what we can do for
night service, they may well be willing to say $24 works for
Kubby/ Assuming.. only way that relationship can be .... are
options.
Thornberry/ Who is going to say I would like a higher rate .....
Kubby/ There are people who look at the whole picture.
Nov/ ...cannot get along without the bus at 8:00 at night.
Thornberry/
Kubby/ Other thing that I have heard... four different people say
I can't afford $25. I think $18 is too low...if I had night
service. I would be willing to pay whatever amount .... There
are people who understand...
Thornberry/ Someone from Madison, Wisconsin... said $.50... too
cheap. They were paying $1.00 .....
Norton/ We are not going to have a chance to see what is going to
be discussed on Tuesday night before hand .... Are we together
Monday?
Atkins/ I am going to get this prepared and out to you in a couple
of days. I want you to have something in hand.
Norton/
Lehman/ The options I think are ours ..... we explain the cost of
reducing that...
Arkins/ I think what Ernie is saying is... have to impress upon the
public. Here is the proposal: $.75, $25, no night time
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service. Now that we understand that and that we are reviewing
options... for example .... At least they can understand your
perspective ....
Kubby/ We are going to create some options to get out to the public
to give us feedback about it ......
Norton/
Kubby/ Tone down what our parameters are so we can get more viable
feedback.
Lehman/ That is what our job is after the p.h ..... Has to be our
call.
Norton/ Hearing is on City Manager's proposed budget.
Atkins/ That is your target .... My job is to make proposals, create
a target. If you choose to move that target around, that is
your call. I need to advise you the financial consequences of
that.
Nov/
What about trying to give a survey? .... some point that a
specific late night route is more important because of the
people who need it. Is there we are going to get that survey
done°
Atkins/ We are going to try to get you a survey ....
Norton/ I will go down there in the morning .....
Atkins/ We are going to try to get something. We talked about it
late this afternoon.
Kubby/ Important to me that the public have information about what
we are thinking about and what the consequences are of
different kinds of decisions that we might make .... I am
wondering- I want us to be as specific as we possibly can in
terms of information that we put out to people .....
Atkins/ I think generally speaking we have to assume the public has
an appreciation... people that appeared before you here
tonight say I want my thing ....
Kubby/... I would like to see us do is have at least four people
say we would like to see two different options of two
different levels of night service based roughly around figures
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of $75,000 and $100,000.
Atkins/ And that is what I heard you say. That is what I will try
to prepare for you.
Kubby/ About ten minutes ago I heard you say you are going to give
us one option.
Atkins/ No. $75,000 was the target. Shape something around that ....
Can you prepare a night time service in and around that one
route, two route, five routes. I will do as many as we can
reasonably put together for you. We will get you something.
Thornberry/ .... Do you have a letter out on the internet?
Kubby/ Yeah.
Thornberry/ Can I have a copy of that?
Kubby/ Marian, can you give him a copy of that? It just reflects
what it said last night.
Thornberry/ I would like to see what we said.
Kubby/ I guess I want to complete this.
Baker/
Atkins/ You want night time service options.
Baker/ ..... How it is presented to the public before the p.h. is
that right?
Kubby/ There is a couple of issues... One is I keep hearing Steve
say that we will get you an option for night service that-
Atkins/ You said you want to restore night time service.
Nov/ Not the entire night time service.
Atkins/ That is enough direction that I am assuming that okay,
Steve, what kind of options are valuable within that very
broad parameters of returning night time service in some
fashion. You added to that... willing to spend $75,000. Those
are targets.
Norton/
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Arkins/ I think we are okay. I think we are going to do what you
want me to do.
Lehman/ I heard four council people say discontinuing all night
time service without a viable options. I don't think any of us
have concretely decided that the fees are where they should
be. We had decided that we do need some night time service...
we do need an option.
Norton/ What we want to look at is a couple of alternative ways of
defining replacing partial night time service .... Karen wants
to be sure that we see not just one night time restoration
option.
Kubby/ .... If that is what everyone is understanding and agreeing
to that is all I am getting.
Vanderhoef... I asked for last night that I would like figures
because I keep hearing all of you say night time service which
I hear you saying... 11:00 .... and we don't have any numbers
on ridership after 8:00 at night and it may well be that our
best use of the dollar may be to continue service until 8:00
and nothing after that .....
Kubby/ And we requested that information last night, right?
Atkins/ Restoration of night time service may be ending at 9:00 .... I hear you ..... I don't know.
Nov/ Those are the kinds of things we can get from the survey .....
Atkins/ This work will be done before that survey is finished.
These are going to be our best guesses for you. We got to get
started on this right way.
Baker/ Are you saying, Steve, the night of p.h. on Transit, you
will actually have route alternatives?
Arkins/ It can't be that specific .... I can give you some
options... We have a formal meeting again on the 30th ....
council time emphasizing the upcoming hearing...
Atkins/ ... you have already instructed you want partial
restoration. Now figure it out.
Baker/ Is there any more questions on Transit because I have a
different issue?
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Norton/ We are missing that Tuesday before that
the special hearing? ... February 6 but we
together on Monday night, are we?
special? When is
are not meeting
Kubby/ We are going to listen to the public and we might...talk
about it.
Nov/
We agreed last night to meet on Wednesday morning to talk
about a decision making .... 9:30 .... Coming right back to it
the next morning.
Kubby/ ..... let people know that on February 4 at the Rec Center I
am going to be sponsoring a Transit teach in to try to present
some information of just stuff that staff has given us in
terms of where the money comes from .... what the trends are in
federal funding ..... It is important .... not four of us there
.... Important for me to let you know that I am doing that...
February 4 at the Rec Center.
Norton/ Why doesn't the council get behind some fireside chats on
t.v.? ..... briefing on Transit and any other topic ....
Kubby/ I will also be doing probably a little five minute PATV
thing about some trends in ridership .... episode of It's News
To Us ..... as an individual... from my perspective .....
collective thing... good ....
Norton/
Kubby/ Local issues from my perspective ....
Baker/ Transit ....
Nov/ Does anybody have any questions on SEATS? ...new information.
Thornberry/ Need another time ....
Kubby/ Maybe you could write some stuff up?
Nov/ ....The county they wanted to get together and staff is
prepared to do it but the county wanted somebody who was
elected so we sent somebody.
Norton/ ...options about getting our own program together along
with Coralville...
4. Baker/ Tomorrow .... I have a question .... Wondering if majority
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of council would be willing to ask Steve to prepare a short
memo about the budget implications of a 1/2, 3/4 or full time
position in Human Rights ....
Atkins/ $42,000 for full time. We have $6,000 in the budget. That
would make you $34,000 short .... half time-lop it down the
middle ....
Baker/ Can you put that in a memo?
Atkins/ Absolutely.
Baker/ Here is what it is going to cost for A, B, and C .....
Atkins/ Have Dale do it.
Nov/
5. Norton/
Vanderhoef/
Baker/ Maybe we can do this... some of these things that Steve has
approved.
Norton/ I got a whole bundle of them I want to bring up. When? ICAD
funding.
Kubby/ In the past we have asked people who want to make changes
from what is proposed to put them in a memo form. We did add
that meeting on the 20th, right? So if everybody puts their
stuff in writing to be in a packet .... February 20, added
budget meeting.
Nov/ That is CIP only because our budget has to be published on the
16th .... that was the 7th.
Kubby/ The 7th, not the 20th.
Karr/ We are meeting the 20th but no for that.
Kubby/ 7th... budget. That is when we can do it.
Nov/ We were able to get everybody in town... February 7.
Kubby/ .... none of us have been able to talk about specific things
that we want to propose.
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Nov/ Can we do that in a memo? .....
Kubby/ I am suggesting that we each write on the 7th.
Norton/ The morning after our hearing on Transit.
Nov/ We really have to finalize ....
Baker/ Once we pick a figure, we can't go up, we
Kubby/ And we can change things around.
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a memo .... talk about it
Wow.
can go down.
Yucuis/ We will give you as much flexibility as possible which
might mean that the numbers that are presented on state form
might be higher to allow any flexibility that you want up to
including the p.h .....
Baker/ Is the 7th ...personnel decisions.
Atkins/ The sooner you get to that the better off... prepared
coming in. Understand that what we would do is that from a tax
perspective you have got no latitude anyway. That is fixed and
you know how much money is coming. Don is suggesting...
expenditure... puff that up in order to give you some
flexibility .... You can always go down, you can't go up.
Kubb¥/ We do need to build in to our budget deliberations time for
us to talk and negotiate ....
Atkins/ You can do it on 7th... also 20th ....
Norton/ .... Haven't had much time for discourse on out own ....
Feel like we are locked in a vice.
Atkins/ In many respects you are because of the process that we are
stuck with.
Norton/
Nov/
Kubby/ We need to do as much as we can ....
Atkins/ Keep in mind, on the 29th I did put a line under your work
session-Budget ....
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Vanderhoef/ Request... I am leaving down first thing on Friday
morning .... give me as much as possible...
Atkins/ ..... fax nearby... call and we could fax you something ....
Karr/ The next Friday .... on the 2nd...
Vanderhoef/ ...back on 6th ....
Thornberry/ I am leaving Wednesday ....
Vanderhoef/ I am leaving on morning of the 2nd .....
Thornberry/ Gone from 7th to 13th ....
Karr/ Anybody who is leaving, let me know... I will have all of the
calendars so you can take a look at them at anytime. I have
got them all.
Norton/ Leave a phone number where I can call you ....
Baker/ You have mine ....
Kubby/ Annie Tucker is here and has an interest in having some
mediation moneys earmarked in the City Attorney's Office is
anybody wants to talk to her before she slips away ....
Annie Tucker/ (Can't hear).
Nov/ Tell us what you were going to say ....
Annie Tucker/ The idea came from the fact that I know.. mediated
disputes in this community .... neighborhood disputes .... What
is happened is...as a mediator... In these situations I felt
like I had to .....
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Tucker/ Were interested in being involved .... but often folks are
not interested in putting money toward this kind of process
... budget where the city made funds available to folks who
were willing to mediate just so the process could happen ....
save time .... if folks handled the problem... I called Dee and
talked to him .... Put it together really quickly.,. basic idea
is a valid one... Linda... she concurs ..... She was willing
to have it in her budget.
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Nov/ I am not sure that I understand .... isn't it a conflict for
the city to pay the mediator ....
Tucker/ If it is an independent fund ....
Nov/ Still city money ....
Thornberry/ ..I would like to see a lot more mediation done .....
Norton/ ...Available to an individual .... issues .... not interested
in paying mediation costs in those cases.
Nov/ I might be interested... conflict of interest .....
Norton/ .... I found it difficult to understand ....
Kubby/ Here is an example .... $4,000 set aside for mediation... Two
neighborhood groups want to apply to use those moneys to talk
to each other in a more structured way versus going to
court .... A way to apply for those funds .... Maybe a community
group...
Norton/ Did you see the mailing from the Iowa Peace Institute
today? I will put it in the hopper .... Dubuque has taken a big
contract with iowa Peace Institute .... training city staff in
mediation.
Tucker/ .... hate to see it not happening for lack of funds or
time .... I was just trying to figure out a way for that
commitment to work out ..... If there were public moneys
available ....
Nov/ I have heard from other cities... set up mediation system ....
Tucker/ .... I don't see the conflict of interest ....
Thornberry/
Norton/ .... aware of the possibility of mediation ......
Nov/ We have talked about it for a number of years ....
Tucker/ ...I know that people want to mediate ....
Nov/ We did have several cases mediated in the Human Rights
Department .... city did pay for that ....
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Helling/ We pay for it but the city is not a party to that meeting
...... The city pays for it as a way to resolve these
complaints but the city is not a party to the mediation ....
Tucker/ These are cases where the city is not involved ....
Vanderhoef/
Kubby/
Tucker/ Given the ...number of times people choose mediation ....
Just looking for a way to make it happen. Thanks for you time.
Nov/ Thank you.
Tucker/ Interesting watching you folks work together.
Nov/
I had a call today from Don Yarbrough and University Hts.
about possibility... Neuzil Property and I ask HIS to check
into it.
We had Dee Norton volunteering to go to the Emergency
Management Committee this time. I am looking for a commitment
Council/ (All talking).
Adjourned: 10:15 PM.
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