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May 8, 1998
Council Work Session
7:10 PM
Council: Lehman, Champion, Kubby, Norton, O'Donnell, Thornberry. Absent:
Vanderhoef.
Staff: Atkins, Karr, Franklin, Miklo, Yapp, Kugler, Davidson, Rockwell, Osborne.
Tapes: 98-65, all; 98-66, Side 1.
Peninsula 98-65 S1
Lehman/Some with a gray Dodge with the lights on in the parking lot... Victor Dover
and his staff has been working in the Civic Center .... Commend you and your
staff... been great great people to work with... Staff... is enthused about this...
We look forward in seeing what is being proposed in this area... unique
opportunity .... It is important that we make this work.
Victor
Dover/Let's bring down the lights, and look at pictures. Picture this, roads on
your term. Roads that make things better rather than worse. Imagine, not a new
subdivision in Iowa City, but a new neighborhood. That's what we've been
working on this week. We've started this last week with your help. So those of
you who weren't here for the previous meetings, let me just make sure you know
where the project is. Here's a map of Iowa City, the location we're studying
together, is right here. The upland part of the peninsula that is owned by the city,
that includes the flood plain below, the parkland on the peninsula, the area next to
the bridge and so on. What if that was a new neighborhood for Iowa City? We
believe this really is a one time opportunity. There is as far as we can tell, no
other site like this one. Picture having the feeling of living in a place apart
because of its stand alone, self-contained geography, and yet living in the heart of
the city. Is there another place where that can happen? Picture this, living in a
place that's well served by municipal services, has the feeling of community life,
the strong bond that you feel in your older neighborhood, and yet has spectacular,
long views against open space, across open space, that will remain open in
perpetuity. There is no other sight like this. That's why growing just the right kind
of neighborhood is very important on this sight. Now, designing in public is the
way we have been going about this and you are going to see tonight work in
progress because the next step in this public process is to show you how we took
your instructions during the last week and molded that into a concept plan, it's not
finished, but it's there for adjustment and improvement. The first and most
exciting part of this process took place in this room. We took the sixty or seventy
people who came out last Saturday, gave up their weekend day to work on
planning for the neighborhood and we broke them into table groups, about ten or
so per table, spread around this room. And each group worked for several hours
answering questions like, where's the center of the neighborhood? Where are the
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edges? What do you want to see there? What kinds of homes and other things
occur there? What are the streets like? We asked you these questions, and the
groups got rather intense, we admonished everyone, argue if you must, but argue
with your pencil. And they did it. You are a very polite town, and even the growth
and the new development is sometimes a very emotional charged issue, folks
really acted pro-actively to propose what they do want on the mats, instead of just
complaining about what they don't want. Then, each of the six groups pinned up
their work for the others to review, and we reconvened theater style, and went one
by on through presentations of each of the six teams. Spokes persons for those
teams presented five minutes or so of the big ideas that came up at their table.
And then after that the other members of their team occasionally corrected them
and said wait, you forgot one of the big ideas. It was really kind of neat. And then
as a group we critiqued the results. And the audience offered the bigger gathering
a series of watch words and things to be sure to remember as fundamentals. We
took notes on all that and then went to work. Now the next step of the process was
to get a better look around. You told us a lot, we had seen a lot on our trips to
Iowa City, and on our initial tours we went back out on the streets. We were
studying neighborhoods we had less familiarity with, like Manville Heights,
because you said that was important. We also went to look at other precedents, we
studied Mount Vernon, and West Branch for example to learn about other forms
of settlement in the smaller town scale that have been occurring in this area. And
it was a great thing to do, because we were finding over and over as we walked
with cameras and notepads and measuring taps that the dimensions matter a lot.
That the feel, for example of a street that is 32 or 33 feet wide curb to curb is
incredibly different from the feel of a street where the dimensions are 25 feet, like
they are in the Longfellow neighborhood. We also saw lots of evidence of success
in these great old neighborhoods. Look at the natural fit between neighborhoods
that are filled with front porches and kids for example, that you see there is
evidence with all those bicycles. And then we started taking those six plans and
trying to hammer them and mash them and synthesize them to a single plan. We
jokingly called it the Frankenstein plan. And there were a bunch of them, very
different, here's one that got a little harder geometry, here's one that didn't know
about geometry. Here's one that starts to apply different geometries and different
sectors of the property. We were studying the design ideas three dimensionally as
well as two dimensionally, so we were thinking about the long views in
relationship to the park, and these kinds of things. Now during that part of the
process, we also interviewed a lot of people. We had a parade, for those of you
who came in and out of the city council chambers during the past week, you saw
this in action. Dozens and dozens of Iowa City folk came through to see the work,
look over our shoulders, offer suggestions, everywhere we can, those suggestions
are incorporated in the plan. We interviewed builders, developers, realtors,
council members, technicians from staff, transit people. We interviewed the
engineers, the public works folks, all getting that what's the win-win solution for
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each person's technical specialty. And then we stayed up all night. Here's Nancy
Purrington helping stay up late coloring marshes. Nancy, are you in here? There
you are. You deserve a lot of credit for the graphics in the lobby out there. We
appreciate your help. And lots of other folk helped too, as we put the plan
together. It was a tremendous team effort. I get the luxury of standing up here as
spokesperson tonight, but it really was a hands on effort by tons and tons of
people. And of course our whole team. Now tonight what we want to do is hold
up the work and ask you what you think. We need to here from you about what
you don't like. We need to know what you're concerns are, and what might need
to be fixed as we march toward the second draft. We also need to here from you
what you do like. Because if you don't bring it up, and no one else does, we may
not realize that's an idea that's important to you. So we need your information
about what you want and what you don't. Plans are visual things, but they do boil
down into a few policy concepts that seem to be coming up over and over as most
important. First of all, you told us that you didn't want just one kind of thing, that
you wanted a mix of housing types, a range of sizes and types of dwellings to own
and or rent, no all one thing. You also told us you wanted it mixed through the
neighborhood. You didn't want a row house enclave, all the row houses together
in one part, and an apartment enclave or complex somewhere else, but rather you
wanted to create as economically and socially diverse a fabric as possible over the
whole property. Second, you told us that the natural features are incredibly
important and you wisely, as good real estate consultants reminded us also that
those things were for the enjoyment of all of the neighbors, and would add value
to all the neighbors homes. Literally adding value to the adjacent neighborhood
and adding value for the greater citizens of Iowa City. You told us that the views
were important, and you didn't want to see things impede those views unless-you
wanted to improve those, and you talked a lot with us about the forested ravines.
Now, most of that upland property you understand does not have trees on it now.
It was crop land, it's cleared, and most of the property that we're discussing for
the actual footprint of the settlement on the top of that hill is already cleared. But
the ridges, or the slops rather around and the forested ravines are heavily treed,
and you told us that to stay the heck out of those everywhere we could. And
you'll see that in the plans. You talked to us about streets. You put a high priority
on being pedestrian and bicycle friendly. There was discussion about traffic
calming, about the way buildings sit down on their sites, so as to really shape the
public space instead of just sitting there randomly. You told us that you didn't
want a gated community but rather the kind of interconnected neighborhood you
find in older parts of Iowa City you also told us that not just any buildings would
do. That the place to look for building types that respond to the climate, which
look right in this light, and feel right in your neighborhood are the historic models
of your older parts of town. And that raises some questions, with it and some
challenges and we'll explain those to you later, but this is definitely one of the
directions. You told us that you didn't want to see the garage scape. When we
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showed comparative pictures and asked folks what they thought, thumbs up on
front porches facing streets, thumbs down on double wide garage doors facing
forward was the response we got over and over and over. So buildings and lots
will have fronts and backs. There's more to being interconnected than just streets.
The streets are part of the pedestrian network and the bicycle network, and the
motoring network but that system also includes the allies, pedestrian paths, and
trails, and, here's and important one, ways to get across the river. The dam of
course you may all know is about to be improved with a pedestrian and cycling
bridge. But that goes to Coralville, and it doesn't make for a, at least in the short
term, a very convenient connection to say the University or the Medical Center or
downtown. So the plan includes a way to get that kind of connection. And then
last, recognizing that this new neighborhood was sitting at the end of road, and
there weren't a lot of other ways in and out besides using Foster Roads, we've
worked hard in the big ideas to do all the things we can to reduce the travel along
your streets. One of the things we can do is mix the uses, provide things inside the
neighborhood that you need so you don't have to leave, encourage folks to both
live and work in the neighborhood, and of course that list of ways to reduce traffic
would also include on the horizon at some point, a transit connection. Now the
land itself tells us a lot. These green areas on this upland slope are the forested
areas. Here are the slopes that surround the new part of the Elks golf course, here
are the slopes that transitions from the neighborhood to the parkland below, here
are forested ravines... and so on. And you can kind of tell when you look at the
picture that way, that these forested areas you told us to treat very gently carve the
area of the neighborhood into very distinct parts. Well, that could be very good
for identity in the neighborhood. For example, the neighborhood will really cleave
naturally into a pair of urban quarters, or carties as the French call them that have
their own identity. Kind of a lower part of the neighborhood, an upper part of the
neighborhood, and the neighborhood center where the two come together. Now
put that into scale for you, this circle represents from center to edge a five minute
walk, a quarter mile, from here to there. So the neighborhood clearly falls within
an easily walkable distance, if we provide pedestrian friendly streets and paths, if
we make it possible for people to walk then perhaps they can. So with that as the
basic framework, lets take it to the neighborhood. I'm going to show you pictures,
illustrations, they're purely hypothetical, and I'm going to show you sight plans
that go with the pictures. As we do that, I want you to understand that the master
plan you see here is, at this point, truly a concept. Yes, we've drawn streets, and
we drew street trees on them so you could visualize how the plan might be lived
out. But implementation wise, what's going to happen, is that the city, who owns
this parcel, is going to advertise for buyers, of the land to be settled. And they will
include in that request for proposal, a booklet that has all these pictures and all
these big ideas and challenges the developers or builders who'd like to bid on the
property to propose their design solutions incorporating these ideas everywhere
they can and improving upon them everywhere they can, seeking the maximum
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creativity from those builders and the developer. Design is one way that we would
look for their creativity, we would also look for their creativity in financing,
phasing, staging in other words what part is done first and second, how they can
best achieve the goals of minimizing the environmental damage, how they
achieve the goals of maximizing that mix of housing types, and price. The price
should not be the only concern or the foremost concern of the council when they
select the final buyer. All of those factors ought to come into play, and you might
as council even choose to sell the property to a proposer who offers a little less.
Yes they did the other things you're asking for in the best way. So that's the
attitude. Price is going to be very important the city has made it very clear for
example they fully expect to recover the 1.3 million dollars that has been spent
here on land. We don't think there is going to be any difficulty doing that. But
there are all these other factors too that should be weighed in, now let's walk
around the neighborhood. Here's the Iowa fiver as it runs an ox bow around and
then forms the peninsula. This is Foster Road, as it's being improved, and along
side the Elk's golf course as it enters the property. Down below here's the dam
and Coralville to the west. In these maps, north is up so you can remain oriented.
Now this area inside the trees is that cleared upland area. And part of it has been
leased to the Elk's for a modification of their golf course. There is a fairway here
and here. And that gives us basically this area to work with. Down below is a big
city park, with well fields and the new wells that have been installed, that park
will be improved with some paths, with a service lane that they can use to get
trucks to the well heads for maintenance, but it will be essentially preserved as a
natural area. There is a park master plan forth coming, it is not part of what we're
doing here, but look forward to seeing the details of the park master plan, which
might include restoration of some natural areas and so on. Now, I think it is
probably better to zoom in here a little bit, and look just at the part on the upland.
The neighborhood center, Foster Road, the southern ward, and the northern ward.
Foster Road is a piece of the city's city-wide trail network. It will actually include
a design that is friendly to pedestrians and bicyclists who are working their way
back down to that bridge, and that's great. It'll come through the heart of the
neighborhood, reach the neighborhood center, we treat as a trail head, with some
things that will be very attractive to the trail users, and then on through and out to
the path. The neighborhood is made up of a series of fairly normal, although
cranked and twisted, and adjusted where necessary, fairly normal city blocks.
Blocks, streets that are faced on both sides by the fronts of buildings, the
buildings are served on their backsides in most cases, where everywhere possible,
by any ally or narrow service lane. That means the garage doors, garbage pick-up,
some utilities, can be in the ally. Allies might well be private, but subject to
agreement, development agreement or speed restriction which maintains the
private responsibility for maintenance, like snow removal, and cutting the grass
and so on. The streets in this scenario could easily be public streets. In a few
locations in the neighborhood, there are special sights for specific buildings or
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gatherings, like this central square, or this little park which is compared size wise
and character to Black Spring Circle, if you know that area. You can see a series
of those things. The design of the neighborhood calls for streets to be faced on
both sides by fronts, right? Well that also means that at the edge where there are
critical views, into forested ravine there, or into the golf course there, the road
only has buildings on one side. That means if you are standing on the golf course
and looking back, you will be able to see the fronts of houses instead of the
barbecue grills. You will be looking at the front porches, and we think that's a
very valuable marketing tool as well, because that means that from across the
river or from out on the open space, there will be post card views of the village on
the hilltop. Much better than looking at the backsides of buildings. Now lets enter
the neighborhood on Foster Road, 28 feet from curb to curb, with a wide planting
strip, a wide sidewalk, or multi-use path on at least one side for the pedestrians
and cyclists, faced on both sides by fronts of houses. That might look like this.
Here's the Elk's golf course, the first of the tree lines and ravines, and then Foster
Road as envisioned in that cross section, and this really should be, instead of
thinking of Foster Road as it enters the neighborhood, as a problem to be retreated
from because of the traffic, and so on, the best way to handle this street is to make
it the signature address of this neighborhood. As in the older neighborhoods,
really showplace homes might well be located there. You're looking at an image
that depicts what it might be like to arrive along that curved section at the comer
of Foster Road. Now into the heart of the neighborhood. A typical street. If you
look at the dimensions, you know that these streets are really not mysterious, their
based very much on traditional Iowa City streets, the wide planting strips that the
trees can grow large, and there's not interference with utilities, we learned that
from places like Brown Street. The sidewalks on both sides, we learned that from
places like Summit Street. The shallow setbacks really, never less than say 15
feet, more ordinarily 20-25 feet, and sometimes where the slope is intense, or a
front yard is called for spacially, even a little bigger. The 25 feet curb to curb we
learned from the Longfellow neighborhood. And in this shot, you actually see
down a street, and there's for example the golf course long view in the distance.
The streets are arranged the way they are so that the homes are not only on the
edge of the view. But the homes a block or a block and a half inside will share a
feeling of ownership and beauty with that view. I also noticed this street is not
made of all one kind of thing. So let's just exam how it is different. For example,
a street like that that is across the slope might have a fairly small difference
between the level of the sidewalk and the finished floor on one side and a sloped
front yard and a higher or larger difference between the sidewalk and the finished
floor on the other side. And we see that all over the older parts of Iowa City. You
will notice that that street is intercepted by an alley at just the right place and there
is a little out building for the garage of the house that faces the golf course. And
naturally, a site like that might attract a rather up-market home buyer. That could
be a fairly expensive home with a majestic view across the course, across the
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trees, across the river and so on. And then intemally a house that doesn't have that
same view but has a great street as its amenity, full size, market rate, a four-square
house, for example, like that one. The same street, however, can have a small and
modest bungalow. Or a house like this one on D Street which is really a
marvelous example of historic preservation in action. What else? A marvelous
example of affordable housing through smart design. This house, which is really
quite charming, is a rectangle. It has a simple foundation. This house is narrow. It
is not as wide as the big houses that are sharing the neighborhood/This house is
not a full two stories, maybe 1 V2 if they are very creative. That is a way to blend
affordable units with the more expensive units. It is to allow the smaller ones and
smaller lots to be interspersed in the same neighborhood with the larger ones.
Here is that idea on another street. Full size, a single-family detached house with
that wonderful urban relationship to the street. Then immediately adjacent, ckeek
by jowl, attached housing, inherently more affordable to construct and sell.
Smaller per unit land costs, less frontage to finish to a presentation face level and
so the sketch shows you the idea of how row houses and duplexes can be
incorporated into the same neighborhood with detached houses. As we find our
way through the neighborhood we eventually arrive at the neighborhood center.
The village square on the hill top. This is a simple greens pace. It is the precious
center where the land-there is no other land like it on the site. Very special and
designed for community gathering. Very very straight forward and no elaborate
equipment. What is really going on here though is the homes and other buildings
are brought close to the square to frame it and it is given shade and enough
regularity in design to be used for a wide variety of community events. When
there is not an event going on, it is just a nice beautiful green space where you
might sit to eat your lunch or meet a neighbor. Now in that picture we are seeing a
number of different things. For example, live-work combination units could be
built like row houses but they might contain upstairs a residence and downstairs a
business for that resident. You could be an attorney with an attorney's office
down below or an artist with an art studio down below. You see here a site for a
daycare facility. Childcare deliberately constructed in a way that is domesticated.
A civic building in the way it fronts the green and behind it is the tot lot play area.
We happen to have a site right there that is large enough to do that. You can see
here how the ravine begins to slope off. So actually the square forms a green
connection between those two forested ravines. Then you are seeing this thing.
More about that in a moment. In plan, the place you just saw was a drawing James
Dougherty did that illustrates what is would be like to stand right here and look
back at this comer of the square. You saw the live-work units, the comer store,
the childcare center. You didn't see the other side where its play area is located.
And what you also saw was a trail head because somewhere on the site you know
we need to find a few, not many, parking spaces for people to come and enjoy the
trails. Nothing where they could park a boat or a trailer or anything like that. Just
a few and those are concentrated at the center. And then folks that have stopped
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here can walk on down or take their bikes down. It is envisioned that the other
end of the square could be anchored by another civic building. Now why Emma
Harvat Square? Well, this is just an idea. Okay, city council, you get to name
streets and squares. We are just playing the game here for this week. But it was
fascinating to learn about the history of Iowa City and we were intrigued to find
out about Emma, the first woman mayor on this continent of a town larger than
10,000 people. Elected just a year or two after women gained the right to vote. I
understand she was not someone you would want to cross. Tough mayor. So
Emma's Place anchors the Emma Harvat Square. Well, that is an idea. And for
shorthand, just to give us a way to talk about all of these different streets and
squares, we have given them all names and all of the names may not pan out. We
might find out that some of them are horse thieves or wife beater or Indian
murderers. If you find that out, we don't have to name streets after them. But for
shorthand purposes, the maps have those names on them. All of them are mayors
who served in your city prior to W.W.II which is approximately the time where
on this continent we lost our minds with regard to how to do design and
development of new neighborhoods.
Now what is this thing? A site reserved for a comer store or small commercial
enterprise. Will that work? We don't know. It might have to be a Coke machine.
Okay. Or it might start as a Coke machine or a wagon and find a niche and grow
to the point where it could occupy something like this. But the idea is that you
could incorporate in the neighborhood a very very small enterprise which
provided somethings people need in the neighborhood and avoid the necessity for
them to get in their car, strap themselves to another 6,000 pounds of steel and
amble down Foster Road and Dubuque Street adding to the regional traffic, the
area wide traffic. And you can capture a lot of trips. A very small fraction of the
trips generated by the typical single family detached house are trips associated
with work travel. The majority of the trips generated by a house are for so called
discretionary trips and they are things like going to get a newspaper...quart of
milk .... to pick up a popsicle or an ice cream cone. Now, picture this, maybe, just
maybe. If it is a labor of love for someone who lives above or a retiree or
someone whose break even line is not at the level expected by some national
chain. Maybe you could sustain a commercial enterprise here despite the fact that
we have a relatively small number ofrooftops surrounding it and supporting it on
foot, on bike, and with short cars trips. But if we add a couple thousand people a
day on a trail going by on their in-line skates and on their bikes and on foot, we
can support it a little better and Foster Road is the trail and your trail today,
incomplete as it is, is generating 1638 trips on Wednesdays in that part of City
Park that is next to Hancher Auditorium, even though it doesn't yet connect and
run along the river's edge as it will when it is implemented out on the Peninsula.
So there is a possibility that you can make it a little more affordable if you
provide something in there that folks need when they are using the trail. Water,
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for example. Remember that ice cream cone? Trail users like that. Now suppose
we also put right here in front of it because we need convenient parking
associated with that comer store even for our own neighbors in the neighborhood
who are stopping by for something on their way home or on their way to work.
Suppose we designate those parking spaces the trail head and now we make this a
great place to start a bike trip or a skating trip on the trail network and we add
customers that way without adding anybody who wasn't already going to use the
trail. Maybe it is a little more practical then. Now what if transit, in some form,
may a little jitney or maybe a bus, were to find its way eventually in the heart of
this neighborhood. Obviously it would come and stop at the center where the most
people can walk to the transit stop and that would be a great place to stop and wait
for the bus if you could buy a cup of coffee and stay warm and dry inside and read
that newspaper while you wait for the bus. You see how these things come
together in a neighborhood center and makes it more viable. Well, all you have to
do in your request for proposal is insist that a site be set aside to make this
possible and encourage it. All you have to do is make sure there is not some
zoning law that is going to make that impossible and all you have to do is demand
the design that will make it a good neighbor. Three easy things. Now it gets even
better. Traditional towns just did this very well. Here is the banking house of
Wright and Fuller and here is the residence of Mr. Wright, the banker. It was
normal in Iowa forever to put residences and the business of residents on a small
scale together. And that is what the live-work units are all about. And if you do it
right here and this is my home or my home is around the block. This is my law
office where I am on a phone or tapping on a computer and I want a cup of coffee.
See how it works. That is synergy. It works even better if I have dropped my child
at childcare at the very place where a few steps away I am going to wait for the
bus. That is what you just saw. Childcare, comer store, and live-work unit. Now
civic buildings are really important too but there is a great deal of variety within
the houses themselves. We envision streets like the ones you saw before. It is also
a possibility that you could encourage the kind of street rarely seen in mature
cities and that is the kind of very intimate village kind of street scene here. I call
that the quirky intimate cross section. It is deliberate not a consumer of so much
land and it is a different kind of walk. Imagine if you are walking and you walk
down Moses Bloom Lane and you see a street where the trees lean in from a
garden. Okay. That is the kind of thing that can be accomplished if we think
outside the box. Imagine a street where the row houses have bay windows as they
always did in the Midwest and you can see up and down the street. And here is
the kind of cross-section, astonishingly small cross section which can generate a
place that looks like that. Enclosure is not a bad thing. Human beings crave it and
in this neighborhood, you are going to have the ability to create those kind of cozy
contained enclosure spaces and the broad long open views across the golf course
and across the trees and so on. We were just here at Emma Harvat Square. There
is the comer store, here is that lane you just saw in the perspective.
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Civic buildings. One of the basic principles of neighborhood design. Special sites
are reserved for civic buildings. That encompasses a very large amount of things.
It might be a little branch library. It might be a music school. It might be a place
of worship. It might be a community hall or some combination. It could be a post
office or these kinds of things. Well, look at what that does to the identify of the
neighborhood. It becomes a landmark, a symbol of permanence in the
neighborhood. This is from an old Iowa map, as you might have guessed. And we
think there are possibilities for your civic building and special locations to do
precisely the same thing in this neighborhood. So here you see, for example, a
civic building drawn generically. That includes a little bell tower or a clock tower
if you happen to have a clock laying around that you need to find some good
place to put.
Audience/(Can't hear).
Dover/I was waiting for one of them to get it. But anyway. The cartoon illustrates it as if
it is a scaled down cousin of your old city hall tragically lost because some
consultants from out of town thought it would be a good idea for you to get with
the times. The Pruecil School was another example of a great Iowa City civic
building which could be that kind of symbol of permanence. Also it adds visual
variety and variety of life to the things that go on in the neighborhood. Wouldn't
that be a great place for a music school. A music school will need performance
spaces but you also could use a performance space, a room this size for example,
for a community gathering or a retreat or a conference or a lot of other things. So
just like the live-work units, it requires you to think outside the box of
conventional zoning. The civic buildings are going to make you have to think
about combinations of civic uses that make it viable to build them. Here is this
lower part of the neighborhood and the road that leaves from the Emma Harvard
Square around this way. Here you basically see the newest part of the Elks Golf
Course. It is under construction now if you go out there and take a look.
Here is the road that is designed so the fronts of houses look across the golf
course instead of the backs ..... That road becomes an important edge road and we
get into conditions like this one where we would like to bring the street close to
the forrested edge so that the lots can be reasonably sized. You can get good size
blocks to fit within our constrained land. But also because we think that is a
scenic special thing. Imagine, just take a stroll around the neighborhood and walk
about the scenic edge. Even if you live in the middle, you feel you own a piece of
all of it. Okay. But the slopes are pretty dramatic when you get close to the edge
like that. These are forrested because they weren't good for planting crops
because they are too steep. And so here is how that is resolved. Here is one of
those forrested slopes. A little overlook for the passers-by. To grade and build in
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such a place, you can leave the trees alone and that is what is proposed in this
plan. You grade at one level for the street and at a second level for the sidewalk
and at a third level, third terraced level for the house. This is very much like that
cross-section I showed you from downtown before, except here with a little
retaining wall. We couldn't resist drawing seasons. I have to tell you we are from
Miami, we had to draw seasons. We enjoyed that. The perspective you just saw
might be along this area. Now there is an opportunity at the close of that street
when it is joined with Foster Road to create a little park. We were really taken
with Black Springs Circle. Do you all like that example? Up in Manville
Heights... It is a really beautiful place, high standard. Of course this street still
connects as they go through. So the fronts of houses here. We look upon the park
and the forrested slopes would remain for the public enjoyment of all. There are a
couple of other spots where you can do that, too. Where the block really requires
us to be creative about how we fit lots in. You still have the opportunity to create
a little public space that belongs to everyone and is off the traffic but is not a cul-
de-sac. See. This is a much better place to have a potluck dinner than the bowl at
the end of the conventional cul-de-sac out in the sprawl. And here is a spot where
the slope drops off dramatically and we saw an opportunity to create one of those
overlook streets, right where the flat part of the land ends and the slope begins.
Here you see an overlook that is designed to give you access. In the winter time
toward one of those views, folks told us last week were the most special.
This is a cross section through one of those edge streets. There is an Elk ....
Golfing at the edge. It is a tree lined street and the fronts of houses or apartments
facing it .... Here is that street overlooking the golf course, faced not only by
houses but in a couple of strategic spots probably an apartment building or a
couple of row houses. We think that there are great opportunities to get housing
variety by incorporating some multi-family buildings of just the right kind. We
also think those buildings which have a little more mass can be part of changing
the sky-line so it doesn't look like house land but it has that diversity and
landmark status. Here... looking up from the park you would be able to see,
because of the natural clearing that already exists, you would be able to see an
apartment building there. Here, because of the long views down to the river and
back toward Manville Heights, a natural location for a couple of apartment
buildings that are essentially 50 steps from Emma Harvat Square. There is a place
here for between two of the forrested ravines where a conventional block of the
kind you saw doesn't fit. So we recommended you could creatively use a spot like
that by having a couple of apartment buildings, one that faces the T over here and
one that faces the street over there .... In old Iowa City there are beautiful
examples of a medium size apartment buildings .... Something that will fit nicely
with the scale of houses and the trees.
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Now, for landmarks, you can't do better than this. How long have you been
looking for a place to find a home for the chimney swift tower. Well, here is just
an idea. What if you took this very special thing from 1915 and found a home for
it in a part of the community? Do you know what this is? This is the only
structure of its kind in existence. A chimney swift tower where the chimney swifts
are encouraged to come in a build nests and then there is a spiral stair in which
you can go up and study the nesting habits of the chimney swit~s. It is a song bird
tower. This could really be great. It is about 30 feet tall. So it will be, if situated
on the proper base along one of those overlooks, it could be a great symbol of the
neighborhood. Imagine standing in the park, looking back up to the forrested
slope and peaking through the trees is the chimney swift tower. That is the
postcard view of the neighborhood. Just an idea.
Now you have got to be able to get around in a place like this. I talked earlier
about the trail that Foster Road becomes. It leads to the trail head which is that
center. But it is part-
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The streets... plus Foster Road from relatively small blocks that can be easily
walked around. You have many paths to get from one place to another. It also
means that if you are entering or leaving the neighborhood, you have many ways
to get from one origin to another destination. And so interconnecting is very
important. But those aren't all of the pedestrian connections. For example, the
paths or trails .... Add additional ways of penetrating and circulating through the
neighborhood, looking at its special views and the alleys themselves are also part
of a pedestrian network. So when you put it all together, this is a highly
permeable neighborhood for the movement of folks on skates, on foot, and on
bicycles.
Audience/(Can't hear).
Dover/
This is not something you can move a car down or anything like that. There is a
service lane... blocked... ballards .... To manage the well field. The trail would be
coming here across the steep slope... stairs or ramps and not something for the
movement of cars.
This is the southem tip of that map .... Connection across the dam to Coralville if
you are walking or biking. We recommend the addition of a second pedestrian
and cyclist bridge. Here it is shown crossing the river and connecting to Crandic
Park which is one very good way to hook up with the city's trail network and
make your way to the campus, medical center or downtown. The map also
shows .... Second location as an alternate .... Connect you more in the direction of
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Manville Heights towards Park Road .... Now it is a matter of engineering,
environmental concerns and the overall trail picture to determine which of those it
should be. The green stuff is also network... tie together two existing forrested
areas. No home is very far at all from some kind of special public space .... One
longest block. There would be no dwelling farther away from a public space of
that kind than one block .... Enjoy the benefits of open space.
Every map that you have seen so far doesn't have lot lines. There is a reason for
that. A basic framework of infrastructure can be laid out without needing to know
exactly how the segments of the blocks are going to be subdivided. Okay .... But
we did want to have an idea what this infrastructure framework might support and
how you might diversify the layout of blocks and lots. And so this map is an
overlay showing lot lines on top of the block segments .... You might reserve a
larger parcel for an apartment building... in that same block .... larger houses...
You might start to see smaller lots.. or even locations for the row houses or
attached houses .... We did find examples... Think of a Midwestern row house ....
See how the block could work here with a mixture of medium size detached house
lots, smallest row houses and big lots... all in the same block. Now building a
new neighborhood doesn't mean neglecting the neighborhood that you have got. I
am very encouraged by this map... the city thinks of itself as a city of
neighborhoods .... How you treat planning in this town is very encouraging. You
are a city of neighborhoods .... Continuing to nurture and improve your existing
neighborhoods is also a priority of any good plan. You have historic districts ....
Our advice to you is while you work hard as a community on getting just the right
neighborhood on the upland area, you should continue to invest and work hard for
the success of existing neighborhoods. We are concerned about the fact that
because there is not another motor bridge across the river .... in this new
neighborhood and other developments which take place along Foster Road... are
going to be down at the end of a road and they are going to contribute their traffic
onto that road... and brings them out here to Dubuque Street .... Traffic will enter
the area-wide network. It seems reasonable to do everything you can to intercept
folks who are doing routine car trips before they go out into the area wide road
network .... To some of the locals... issue of rising concern. That means thinking
of a larger area. We recommend you continue to think of the study area as a
whole... about what you can do to intercept car trips .... To give a hard earnest
look to the area... natural neighborhood center... might want to include a wider
variety of non-residential uses .... We would never recommend anything of a scale
that is big enough to be any kind of competitive threat to downtown .... Need to
look at that .... Capture car trips with retail and other things ....
I showed you a bunch of pictures... Will this work? What if you could move into
a new neighborhood and have all of the benefits of an old neighborhood?...
character of the historic architecture... and still have full size closets and modem
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appliances .... Modem family and household types... Sounds like the best of both
worlds. This week, we asked Architect Suzanne Martinson .... To interview
builders and developers, Realtom... tour home sites .... recent development...
compare what she found there to the older neighborhoods and the things that carry
out the urban design objectives you saw in the pictures. The question .... Can we
have those kinds of exteriors and those kinds of relationships to the public realm
we saw in those old pictures and still have interiors and floor plan types and cost
of construction that meet contemporary needs?
Suzanne Martinson/The answer .... Yes. After meeting with builders and developers...
We took the opportunity to concentrate on designing different housing types that
might fit into your new neighborhood and one of the first types of houses I
explored was a four-square .... Most often... qualities... open kitchen .... Family
room... possibility of open dining room... ability of the garage to be attached to
the house .... Sites... have an alley access .... Different opportunities... placement
of the detached garage .... Can move closer and closer to the house .... Typical
front porch... developed an entry... stairs... living room... kitchen... office...
small library...
Doveff
We are not recommending that the city should go out and design all of the houses
for a builder. What we have been creating here are exhibits that demonstrate that
both objectives are doable. These are samples... not rules.
John Shaw/ .... I have been in older homes... taken down to the studs... re-done inside...
found them very unsettling. What risk do we run simply putting up a stage set?
Dover/Design matters .... But also create the right kind of relationships among neighbors
and householders ....Architecture is important. Here is a finding. We learned that
architects, for example, are not usually required, unless your building a large
number of units or a very expensive piece of construction. You need find-and
that's probably a mistake. We would encourage you to involve architects on all
the projects. And so if you are sub-normal designers you'll get the stage set effect
that your worded about. You go ahead and remember that design matters and
invest in it up front. As builders and developers you'll reap the rewards and
greater value.
Martinson/I'm going to test this, Mike. Can you hear it?
Dover/All right, your on.
Martinson / The next study were smaller units where we studied-These are smaller width
units and this is a typical vernacular cottage style with again, it's very important
that you've raised porch for privacy element, also placing the house on the site.
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And again the development on the public's space of the house, which is the living
room towards the street in relationship to the porch, and in close proximity to the
sidewalk, and dining room and much larger kitchen and viewing the back yard.
And again, viewing the development of the detached garage.
Dover/(Overhead slide projections).
Martinson/Here we are taking the garage and attaching it to the house. This can be
equally achieved... direct access into the house. Majority of green space ends up
behind the garage .... It is possible and very workable off of an alley situation.
Here is two different width units... side by street on the street... Victorian
detailing... This is a bungalow style house .... Different... gable faces the side,
asymmetrical porch .... Second level in the house .... Here is one that is situated in
Iowa City... one story example...
Dover/...examples of how you can elegantly attach ramps .... Accessibility ....Liked
about the raised floor level.. additional level of privacy ....
Martinson/The bungalow in this particular example .... 1200 square foot house ....
Attached row house... some of the ideas that Victor was citing... 16 & 24 foot
wide lot here .... These units have alley access with a garage .... This is the open
green space... garden space... These units.. developed with living room space..
towards the front... combined living space, great room and kitchen ....
These are two story units ....Stretched out to add another floor ....Bay window
...open golf course view ....
Dover/Lower price units and undoubtedly an expensive house... on the same block and
equally dignified .... No penalty either way.
Martinson/This is the second level floor plan of the units... The apartment unit .... This is
what it might look like from the alley view .... Two story scaled ....
Dover/Accessory dwellings, naturally occurring forms of affordable housing.
Martinson/This is a sketch of a multi-family unit .... Use this as a model ....
Accommodated off the main square, constructed out of brick .... Woodsy type of
accessory detailing on this...
Dover/Multi-family housing may not be mean spirited housing .... Where does all of this
go?... Without a vision the people parish .... But what we ask you to visualize if a
neighborhood on the hilltop... surrounded by permanent open space. Part of the
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city... river... natural scene. That is what the images suggest ....Karin Franklin
will help bring us into the next part of this.
What you just saw was work in progress .... This is a very risky thing I am about
to do... From the delegates to this important assembly who are here, I am going to
ask you to raise your hands for one of the following three categories: I love it, I
like it but it needs some work or I hate it. How many hate it? How many love it
and how many like it but think it needs some work. Okay, I think we are on the
right track ....
Franklin/What we need now is some input from you...comments, questions, anything
you would like to say about what you have seen tonight .... I like that first
response of you love it.
Audience/...the thing think I really like about this is that perimeter road ....Best
ingredient in this whole thing.
Dover/We had some of that .... Plan has some more because of that input. Thank you.
Audience/
Dover/At last count there was something like 400 .... Projects of various scales... that
embody this idea of traditional neighborhood design or the new urbanism ....
There are Midwestern examples .... Madison... We are finding this impulse to
build neighborhood now to get back community is going on all over the place ....
A lot of others... early stage of construction .... Early returns have suggested to
the Realtors .... That traditional neighborhoods absorb... sell much faster...
Jim Thorgmorton/I would like to praise the city council... staff... you for having
produced a very interesting design for a part of the city that is quite special... I
really like each of the key components... Draw attention.. risk that we and the city
will be swayed by the imagery and believe that something like what you have
seen here is really going to happen... It may not really happen... likely to... I
want to encourage the council and staff to hang with this direction .... It is a good
design ....There are lots of key elements here that are really good as design
principles ....What could not happen here but should happen in other parts of the
city is a really coherent mix use core that people can really walk to... fully
accessible by public transit ....For other parts there is more that needs to be
done ....
Doveff
I would offer that you have a special opportunity because you own the land ....
You hold the cards .... You can hold out for the kind of quality that you want ....
Also .... Very important that you are setting a model, aim as high as you can get
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because then you have something transferable .... You are going to be able to
encourage builders and developers to try things here they might not try on a corn
field.
Audience/One of biggest concerns here was how you were going to balance providing
good views from the new homes... and protect the valley for natural uses. I think
you have gone about it in the right way ....You leave the slopes undisturbed... I
commend you ....
Dover/There are places in those cross streets that mn from the golf course back towards
the deepest forrested ravine .... A lot of economics that have to take place here ....
Audience/Do you have an estimate of the total number of dwelling units?
Dover/The reason I didn't make it a part of the presentation is because.. that number can
be a little higher or a little lower depending on what is going to work out
financially. So it is not a magic number. But what you saw illustrated represents
somewhere between 250 & 275 to 350. We didn't try to get every unit you could
possibly imagine fitting on the land... That little study you saw with the lots lines
represent between 250 and 350 units. It represents 300 units and that fits.
Audience/With this land being possibly the most precious in Iowa City as we look at the
potentials for the layouts, how is the idea of keeping this moderate price range
possible? ... small houses become expensive... rent on the apartments becomes so
high ....
Dover/
There is affordability at the outset that we accomplish by design and there is long
term or permanent affordability which is a different problem .... When we use the
term we mean owner occupied housing that is affordable to someone earning
between 60 and 80% of median income in your area .... Two parts: First the
immediate affordability at the outset. By making some things affordable that are
smaller, cost less to construct, have a lower per unit land cost, we can get some
range of prices from the beginning. For example, an apartment above a shop front
on the comer store... likely to remain inherently affordable over a long period of
time .... Neighborhood that is desirable .... That will cause appreciation which is
normal... proof that you have succeeded. As those appreciate in price, that can be
for the people who bought in at the beginning a natural way for household wealth
creation .... Now you have a unit that is not as affordable anymore. That has
happened... That first event .... Very smart investment .... That is good. But that
doesn't deal with permanently affordable inventory that is also important to
create. Our recommendation to the city is that they challenge the builders,
developers, buyer-applicant who want to buy the property, to present the most
compelling scheme for obtaining long term or permanent affordability...
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affordable owner occupied homes, not city subsidized .... They can do this in any
number of different ways... tax credits .... They can decide the sell some of the
units to a not-for-profit housing organization that holds them in a permanent
affordable inventory ....A lot of mechanisms... policy things that the developers
of the land could do ....Long list of criteria ....Smart way of protecting the
environment .... Good price .... If you have the most compelling plan... for
incorporating permanently affordable housing, you ought to get points for that in
the rankings of various proposals .... Find partnering organizations ....
Franklin/Besides the design and policy issues that are just related to the Peninsula, too,
one of the things that we can look at as Jim was pointing out was translating this
to other parts of the community and when you have these choices as more of the
norm rather than the exception, you are going to get some leveling out there as
you get more supplies.
Audience/My question was about permanent affordability and I think you did a very
good job of answering it. I really do like your vision, mixed neighborhoods
throughout...economically and socially diverse.
Dover/It is not our vision .... Did this in the room with everyone else hands-on. It is the
citizen plan at this point. Thank you ....
Audience/I live in a 150 year old house on the northside and I am sort of wondering are
you going to build with the right kinds of materials... so this is going to last for a
long time...
Franklin/That would certainly be the intention that they are built to stay there for a very
long time .... Quality of the structures that are built there is very important.
Audience/
Franklin/ .... list of things that we will want to see... get higher points... quality of
construction should certainly be one of those things.
Dover/...One of the things that will be in the package handed to the interested buyers of
the land will be an officially adopted set of design guidelines .... Sergio Vasquez
from our office .... Has been managing this project day to day. He is directing the
work in the coming weeks... concept draft and a future presentation, 4 - 6 weeks
away .... Early July for a follow-up presentation with improved information. One
of the things we will have at that time is the design guidelines... a draft... to
council.
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John Shaw/You are using the words design guidelines. Sometimes when you get into a
neighborhood you hear the term covenant. Can you discuss that?
Dover/
Here the design guidelines will be broad. It will be illustrated... diagrams...
explain how to actually build the stuff that is shown in those pictures. But it
won't be a full blown code .... I think some of what you just saw in those pictures
might be illegal under current city standards .... Street standards and setbacks...
mix of uses will require some adjustments to the city's rules... So the design
guidelines serve an interim purpose. They could easily be adapted .... Made more
hard line .... Developer agreements... homeowners association documents .... Part
of the zoning system... Guidelines will be broader at this point.
Franklin/And we wanted those broader guidelines so that we can translate them into
whatever it is that we need for other parts of the community. We may have
covenants on this particular piece of property which are unique to this piece ....
Dover/This is the starting point of those ....If other members of the consulting team want
to chime in here ....
Audience/ I think what happened this week is really exciting .... One question... when
you show the examples of what the architectural styles looks like, the reference is
so strongly historic that I guess my concern would be that ... some of the ideas
need to be reinterpreted in a 1990's vision... more modem... I am curious about
how that has worked... how guidelines developing that isn't a recreation of a New
England village...
Dover/ ....I think your point is very good. We would urge great vigilance about a few
basic urban design principles: about the placement of buildings, orientation of the
fronts and backs, location on the lot for parking and garages .... That kind of stuff
we would urge to be very rigid about. When it comes to architecture, the
important thing is the quality and the long term life cycle intelligence of the
house: response to climate... the way people really live. The regional vernacular
architecture is usually a good benchmark for fit with climate because it is time
tested .... We hadn't planned to recommend that there be a rigid historical style...
old neighborhoods are kind of eclectic ....Eclectic might be the best way to think
of it.
Robert Gray/A few people have come in and mention other things... passive solar
ideas... We can incorporate other things like that ....
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Dover/We are actually pointing to the genetic code for how to grow good architecture
for the area and we are still on a learning curve as far as that goes ....The mounds
of books of examples have been growing also ....
Martinson/I would just like to say... make a comment about the translation of
architecture in this day and age... beautiful historic home and historic
..... techniques... Not everybody can afford the full brick foundation... But I think
this is where you have to be aware... architect... knows how to detail materials
properly... starting and stopping of materials becomes so important .... You need
architects.
Dover/Why it is optional here we cannot figure it out.
Martinson/It makes an incredible difference .... A drawing... how to tell somebody in
what dimension is also important for something to look real ....
Dover/We saw a lot of two dimensionalized four-square knock offs .... Those kinds of
things have to be re-learned here to build better neighborhoods... Advance ....
Urban design.. architectural design should both be floated upward ....
Gray/We had some local architects who came in and worked with us: Jim Barret, Sue
Licht and others... John Shaw. They also showed us some of the work they had
done in town... Unless you are doing a certain number of units as a builder, you
don't have to hire an architect... we think your local architects could be used ....
Continue to contribute their ideas and thoughts ....
Dover/
400 projects... have all dealt with the same problems... there are starting to
immerge lots of ready to use or adapt plans... of houses that work for modem
expectations .... Adapt if for Iowa City...
Franklin/I think since it is getting to be almost 9:00. What I would like to suggest at this
point is that if you have got comments that you would like to make to the
consultants that are here or city staff.... Please, we would love to hear your
comments .... Anything about this project... They will be coming back sometime
in the beginning of July. We will be having another public presentation of this
project with refinements...
Dover/And better base information .... That needs to get updated...
Franklin/The next step after that will be adoption in some manner.. resolution by the city
council of this as a design concept .... Adoption of the design guidelines... send
out a RFP to developers and that is a process that is probably going to take us
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another six to nine months .... Have someone that we are ready to work with to
build this project. So stay tuned.
John Shaw/(Can't hear).
Franklin/We need to hear from the local market, can one person do this all or are we
going to look at a number of different people? Okay.
Shaw/(Can't hear).
Franklin/It could be one developer and many builders .... We will have to still scope that
out .... This is not all fine tuned at this point in time .... Thank you all very very
much for coming.
Dover/Thank you.
Adjourned: 9:00 PM
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