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AGENDA
REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF JANUARY 31, 1995
7:30 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CiViC CENTER
410 EAST WASHINGTON
ITEM NO. 1 -
ITEM NO. 2-
ITEM NO. 3 -
ITEM NO. 4 -
AGENDA
IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING - JANUARY 31, 1995
7:30 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALL TO ORDER.
ROLL CALL.
SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS.
a. Presentation of Citizenship Awards to the following Regina Elementary
School students:
(1) Sara Murphy
(2) David Welsh
b. Charter Review Commission Recommendations
c. Presentation of award to the City of Iowa City on behalf of the 18th
Annual Parsons Technology Iowa City Hospice Road Races.
MAYOR'S PROCLAMATIONS.
a. Community Fitness Awareness Week- January 29-February 4, 1995.~~
b. American History Month - February 1995.-~/~, /-/-/,~,~.~J
~) Slack History Month - February 1995.
'Girls and Women in Sports Day-February 2, 1995.- ~.~ .~J 7~~
e. Sertoma's Freedom Week - February 12-18, 1995
f. Salute to Hospitalized Veterans Days - February 11 & 12, 1995.
CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED OR
AMENDED.
a. Approval of Official Actions of the regular meeting of January 17, 1995,
as published, subject to corrections, as recommended by the City Clerk.
b. Minutes of Boards and Commissions.
(1) Riverfront and Natural Areas Commission meeting of December
21, 1994.
(2) Board of Library Trustees special meeting of January 12, 1995.
(3} BroadbandTelecommunicationsCommission meetingof December
19, 1994.
(4) Planning and Zoning Commission meeting of January 19, 1995.
(5) Charter Review Commission meeting of January 4, 1995.
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ITEI,[ NO. 2 - SPECI~ PRESENTATIONS,
a. Presentation of Citizenship Awards to the following
Regina Elementary School students.
(1) Sara Murphy
(2) David Welsh
Horow/ We have a special presentation of the Citizenship Awards to
the Regina Elementary School Students. Would Sara Murphy and
David Welsh please come up to the podium. This evening we have
two recipients.
David Welsh. David is a sixth grade student at Regina
Elementary and he, according to his teacher, never a day goes
by that she doesntt hear his gentle words or witness his acts
of kindness to fellow classmates. David is considered an
outstanding young citizen by his teachers and his school.
David, congratulations.
Sara Murphy is a sixth grade student at Regina Elementary. Her
teacher, Sister Mary Francis, considers that she is ¥ery
deserving .of the Citizenship Award. she is supportave,
u~derstandlng, helpful. She also 1s very- has a lot of
consideration and tenderness towards anyone who is having
difficulties. Sarans kindness extends beyond her peers to
teachers and other staff members and her teacher says that she
has random acts of kindness that are too numerous to mention.
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ITEM NO. 2 - SPECIAL PRESENTAT?ONS.
b. Charter Review Commission Recommendations
Horow/ Charter Review Commission Recommendations. Mr. McDonald.
John
McDonald/ How soon you forget, right. I get to sign in. I
don't know if I have ever done that before. Madam Mayor,
council members, Mr. Atkins, Mr. Helling, Ms. Karr, Ms. Woito.
Nice to see all of you. I have the privilege of standing in
front of you tonight to present the recommendations-to
represent the CRC to present the recommendations of the CRC
which you appointed last May. Just a couple of brief comments.
We will present our recommendations to you tonight. As I
understand it we are going to set a p.h. for two weeks to
allow the public to respond. To give you an opportunity to
review those recommendation and then we will have a more full
blown discussion, so to speak, in two weeks on the issues. One
thing that I did want to say. I did notice that I do have
several of the Commission members here tonight. Part Cain, Ann
Rhodes, Kathy Penningroth, Jeff McCullough, Mary Geasland.
Most of you that sit at that table up there I know you don't
get credit very often for doing many things right. But I have
to say you people out did yourself when you appointed this
Commission. I have never had the opportunity to work with the
finer group of people than I did with this CQm~ission.
Horow/ Left handed compliment.
McD/
Karen, to tell you the truth, I would take this Commission any
day. We started meeting last May. I do think the Commission-
There is an old saying about give a busy person something to
do and they will get it done. You appointed a very busy group
of people but they were just superior in reviewing I believe
the Charter. We went through it paragraph by paragraph,
sentence by sentence. I do not know or I cannot think of an
issue that was left off of the table. We solicited input every
way we knew how to do it. In fact, we did set a first when we
had our p.h., which was not real well attended. It was
publicized. There were not a lot of people but we had our
first call-in p.h. and we did receive a few phone calls
actually. So, we tried something a little different. It worked
out fine but we tried in every way that we knew how to do it
to get the word out that we wanted people's opinions. And as
we reviewed the Charter, as I said, I don't think there was
any stone left unturned. You will have the opportunity to
review it. You have been receiving our minutes. You will want
to possibly refer back to som~ of the minutes so that you can
get a little bit better flavor of the discussion that took
place. We had good discussion on every issue. Most votes were
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not unanimous which you all can understand how that system
works. And we finally came to consensus on the recommendations
that are before you tonight. So, again, I thank you for the
opportunity to serve. The Commission did, in my opinion, an
excellent Job and we will plan on discussing it in further
detail with you in a couple of weeks.
Horow/ I will look forward to two'weeks. Thanks, John.
Throg/ Thanks to the Commission, too.
McD/ Thank you.
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ITEM NO. 2 - SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS.
Presentation of award %o the City of Iowa City on behalf
of the 18thAnnual Parsons Technology Iowa City Hospice
Road Races.
Horow/ (Reads Proclamation).. Would you like to come forward'to
receive this. Thanks, Peg. Do you have anything you would like
to say.
Peg
McElroy Fraser/ Please let me introduce your 19th .Annual
Parsons Technology professional SUpport group. Ms. Jenny
Spangler, Administrative Race Assistant and Pre-Olympic
Marathon Qualifier; Olympian Jeff Galloway,. from Atlanta;-and
me, Executive Race Director. While I volunteered to volunteer
at the O~ympics, I think that is as close as I will ever get.
I would like to take this opportunity to also say a warm
welcome to you, our city, our friends, family really that made
the 18thAnnual Parsons Technology Hospice Road Race~ held on
.October 30 an astounding success. Nearly 6,000 individuals
registered for the event over 5,000 safely finished with a
· first person 12 year old Colin Lewis Beck of Iowa City in a
blistering pace of'1.41. Ther~ is a short course factor there.
Winner of the Half Mile Medical Hippc Hustle to Ms. Susan
Horowitz in the front of the middle of the pack of the KGAN
News Channel 2 Koala Classic Open Mile Walker in a time of
17.22. Susan you were ~19th overall; 173 female and 2nd in
your age division. Finishing all events was Rosalie Braverman
in 1OK Walk time of 2.37.26 and she is so special-to.us
because she was out oldest participant and she received a
personal escort from the finest medical team ever assembledby
our Medical Director, Dr. Jeff Wilson, of University of Iowa
Hospitals and Clinics. The start was spectacular with you
Susan and Chief Pumphrey and Finish Line Co-Director Carol
Kurgler helped me out with a kinder start than the traditional
gun and Susan, I wasn,t reaching for you-to stop the sound
horn after you started the race. I failed to tell Finish'Line
Media Staging Director Mike Altmeier that I have a deathly
fear.of heights and I really appreciated you being up there in
that bucket. There was 5,490 Iowans, 23 states represented,
and 5 foreign countries. This field represents a whopping 24%
increase in our field over last year when national ~aces are
holding steady or declining in numbers. But not in the ~reat
stats of Iowa. Where the number one race, BIX 7, increased
over 5,000 and went to 20,000 this year and the number two
race, well that is us. Our 'youngest participant and. I
m~ntioned. Rosalie Braverman who I frequently say training in
our 10K course right about'at the 4 mile marker. Wendy Ford,
The Convention and Visitor's Bureau estimates that the ripple
effect of our Fall Festival is over $1,750,000 for' our
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community during the weekend and the Fall Festival concept
conceivedbythe ever creative Bill of Iowa City Press
Citizen furthered our consortium efforts to bring people to
our community through our lovely spring and summer festival of
events. There were records'set in the 10K and half because ~f
the changes in courses recommended by the Iowa City Police
Department, Deputy Sheriff and traffic Control Director Joe
Lalla, Dr. David LUburoff, our Race Operations Director and
Mike Forrest from the IDOT and even Farmer Eldon Prieble
stepped in and contacted fellow farmers in the county to
notify them that the race would be coming through since there
was a .lot of combine action right out there in the county
during that time. There were 950 University volunteers'~hat
contributed their time in order to insure that the
participants enjoyed themselves and arrived safely, each and
everyone at the beautiful finish line of which Linda Neuman
was located along with other wonderful'volunteers..And our
volunteer to runner/walker/wh~elchair ratio and that along
with the Penn Elementary' teacher Lynn and her Penn
Panthers., 18 year veteran of the races Pr-~ple Jim Thomas
and over 150 Coralville Central Elementary kids joined by the
entire school for the Annual Hospice Rap won the hearts of
national writer Hal Hidgeon, national guest RichardRono from
Kenya and we do plan to provide some illuminating lighting for
Richard Rono next year from start to finish and of course
Olympian Jeff Galloway. 1,270 of the field'found over 10,871
sponsors and raised over $143)900. It was a pleasure to'see so
.much of you, steve, throughout the weekend as both in his
volunteer commitment as UW and as a flower child handing out
flowers to all of our parti~ipante. And my favorite report is
that there were no injuries and few Complaints. So, on behalf
ef the I6wa city Road races a~d our Board and our staffs'and
our volunteers and all of the runners, walkers, and wheelers
and most of all all of the agencies that benefit from your
fine work, I wish to award you this'beautiful ceramic piece by
Artis~ Julie Kincade and Jeff'will bring it up to.you. Susan-
Horow/ Thank you very much.-
Fraser/ And from the bottom of ~y heart I can never say thank you
enough for everything that you do. You are the finest in the
world.
Horow/ Thanks. That is b~autiful.
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ITeMNO. 3 - M~YOR~B PROCXa%MATIONS. :
b. .American History Month - February 199§..
Horow/ (Reads Proclamation)~ Is there someone here. Thank you very
much. ..
Shirley woolums! Good evening. I am a member of Pilgrim Chapter,
Daughters of the American Revolution. On behalf of Pilgrim
Chapter I would like to extend our appreciation for the
proclamation of February as American History Month. The
proclamation will be framed and placed in the speaker"s table
on our February 11 America~ History Luncheon. Our theme is D-
Day revisited. Our speake~ will be Attorney William Tucker, a
re. cipieot of the Silver Star Medal ~or Bravery. 'Thank you
again, Mayor Horow. The National Societ~ of the Daughters of
theAmerican Revolution was-founded in 1890byfour women, two
southern and two northern.-Their goal was to heal the terrible
wounds still bleeding from the Civil War. The founders
believed that a call to the'common bond, the ancestors who
fought together in the Revolutionary War to liberate us from
Engl&nd and found Our countrywould be a unifying and healing
process. The DARObjectiveg are historic preservation. Several
of Pilgrim Chapter's bronze markers are visible in the Iowa
City-Nest. Branch area. P~omotion of education. We support two
DAR schools as well as six other schools including two native
American schools. The DARalso offers'scholarships-for various
-endeavors. The patriotic endeavor. Annually'award ROTC medals
tb deserving Army and Air Force units at the ~. of I. We also
offer a high school good citizenship award. Pilgrim Chapter
was chartered in 1898 in Iowa City and has been active'ever
since. Membership is open to interested women who can trace
their lineage back to theAmerican RevolutionaryAncestors. ~e
welcome all interested individuals %o our meetings. Thankyou.
Horow/ Thank you.
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ITEM NO.
d.
3 - MAYOR"B PROCLAM~TZONSo
~irls and Women in Sports Day ~ Februar~f 2,
1995.
Horow/ .(Reads Proclamation)l Would you like to come up and accept
Jennifer McCullough/ on behalf of'the 'Woments Inter6ollegiate
Sports Council, the women athletes of thoU. of I. and young
women athletes everywhere, I would like to thank you for
recogni~ing February 2 as Girls' and Women in Sports Day.
Without the support from parents,.schools, city councils, and
on a national level, young Women such as ourselves would not
be able 'to enjoy the opportunities to compete at the Junior
and varsity levels. RecognitiOn of the hard work~ dedication,
and excellence achie%ed by women and girls in' sports in
greatly appreciated. It is this kind of acceptance that will
continue to generate support for young girls and women to
Rarticipate and excel'in whatever sport they choose in the
future..Thank you for recognizing February 2 as Girls and
Women in Sports Day.
Horow/ Thank you ~or being here.
Kubby/ What sports-
McCullough/ (Women in audience list sports).
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Agenda
Iowa City City Council
Regular Council Meeting
January 31, 1995
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c, Permit Motions and Resolutions as Recommended by the CiW Clerk,
(1) Consider a motion approving a Class "C" Liquor License for Mike's
Place, Inc., dba Mike's Tap, 122 Wright St. (Renewal)
(2)
Consider a motion approving a Class "C" Liquor License for One
Poor Student, Inc., dba One Eyed Jaks's, 18-20 S. Clinton St.
(Renewal)
{3) Consider a motion approving a Class "C" Liquor License for Motif
Ltd., dba Bo-James, 118 E. Washington St. (Renewal)
(4)
Consider a motion approving a Class "C" Liquor License for
Vanessa's of Iowa City, Inc., Givanni's Italian Cafe, 109 E. College
St. (Renewal)
(5} Consider a motion approving a Class "C" Liquor License for R.T.
Grunts, Inc., dba R.T.'s, 826 S. Clinton St. (Renewal)
Consider a motion approving an Outdoor Service Area for R.T.
Grunts, Inc. dba R.T.'s, 826 S. Clinton St. (Renewal)
(7)
Consider a motion approving a Class "E" Liquor Permit for Hy-Vee
Food Stores, Inc., dba Hy-Vee Food Store #1, 501 Hollywood
Blvd. (Renewal)
(8)
Consider a motion approving a Class "E" Beer Permit for Hy-Vee
Food Stores, Inc., dba Hy-Vee Food Store #1, 501 Hollywood
Blvd. (Renewal)
(9) Consider a motion approving a Class "E" Liquor License for John's
Grocery, Inc., dba John's Grocery, 401 E. Market St. (Renewal)
(10) Consider a resolution issuing a Dancing Permit to One-Eyed Jakes,
18-20 Clinton St. and R.T.'s, 826 S. Clinton St.
(11) Consider a resolution issuing a Cigarette Permit refund to Leo's
Standard, 130 N. Dubuque St.
d. Setting Public Hearings.
(1)
CONSIDER A MOTION TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING FOR FEBRU-
ARY 14, 1995, ON THE CHARTER REVIEVV COMMISSION
RECOMMENDATIONS.
'Comment: The Charter Review Commission has held twelve
meetings since their appointment in May of 1994. The recommen-
dations of the Commission will be presented to Council at the
formal meeting of January 31, 1995. Citizen comments will be
received at the public hearing on February 14, 1995.
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Iowa City City Council
Regular Council Meeting
January 31, 1995
Page 3
e. Motions
(1)
CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE DISBURSEMENTS IN THE
AMOUNT OF $11,783,830.47 FOR THE PERIOD OF DECEMBER
1 THROUGH DECEMBER 31, 1994, AS RECOMMENDED BY THE
FINANCE DIRECTOR SUBJECT TO AUDIT.
f. Resolutions
(1)
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN
AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST A SANITARY SEWER EASE-
MENT AGREEMENT FOR LOT 20, WEST SIDE PARK ADDITION TO
THE CITY OF IOWA CITY, IOWA.
Comment: Upon further development of West Side Park Addition,
the Engineering Division of the Department of Public Works noted
that the sanitary sewer line installed on Lot 20 several years prior
did not precisely follow the original sanitary sewer easement
granted to the City to include the area of actual installation. This
Resolution authorizes the execution of the necessary Sanitary
Sewer Easement Agreement to reconfigure and expand the original
easement area.
g. Correspondence
(1) Letter from Jay Honohan regarding the Senior Center budget.
(2) Letters regarding the proposed increased parking rates in the
ramps from:
(a) Tomas H. Summy
(b) Evelyn Kral
{3) Letter from Liz Miller regarding proposed incentives for carpooling,
(4) Letter from the Iowa City Area Development Group regarding
future plans.
(5)
Letter from the Cedar Rapids Gazette Sunday Editor regarding a
new weekly feature called "Ask Your Public Official". Attached is
a reply to this letter from the City Manager.
(6) Notice of purchase of equipment. This is placed on the agenda in
accordance with State law.
(7)
Adult Day Program.
Letter from the Committee on Community Needs regarding the
END OF CONSENT CALENDAR
City of Iowa City
MEMORANDUM
To:
From:
Date:
Re:
Mayor, City Council and General Public
City Clerk
January 30, 1995
Additions to the Consent Calendar
Item No.4g(8)
Item No.4g(9)
Item No.4g(10}
Item No.4g(11)
Item No.4g(12)
Letter from Mary Ellen Chudacek regarding carpooling issue downtown.
Letter from Bill Hubbard regarding request by Bruce Glasgow to open
Virginia Drive. (Petition attached)
Recommendation from Sr. Center' Comm. regarding the Adult Day
Program.
Letter from Sue Feeney, Committee on Community Needs, regarding the
Adult Day Program.
Letter from Susan Dulek, President Board of Directors of Neighborhood '
Centers of Johnson County, reguesting the City accept the assistance
provided in the 1994 Crime Bill for additional police officers.
Agenda
Iowa City City Council
Regular Council Meeting
January 31, 1995
Page 4
ITEM NO. 5 - PUBLIC DISCUSSION (ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA).
ITEM NO, 6 -
PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS.
Public hearing on an amendment of the Comprehensive Plan to change
the land use map designatidn of property located on the north side of
Highway 1 West from 8-16 dwelling units per acre and 16-24 dwelling
units per acre to 2-8 dwelling units per acre and general commercial,
Comment: At its December 15, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning
Commission, by a vote of 5-0-1, with Dierks abs.taining, recommended
approval of an amendment of the Comprehensive Plan to change the
land use map designation of property located on the north side of
Highway 1 West from 8-16 dwelling units per acre to 2-8 dwelling units
per acre and general commercial. The Commission's recommendation
is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the staff
memorandum dated December 9, 1994. The public hearing was
continued from the January 17, 1995, City Council meeting. Public
comments were received at th~_~a~995, meeting.
q 5 ~
Consider a resolution amending the Comprehensive Plan to change the
land use map designation of property located on the north side of
Highway 1 West from 8-16 dwelling units per acre and 16-24 dwelling
units per acre to 2-8 dwelling units per acre and general commercial.
(F;,~ C~,,~;d~o,~
Comment: See item a. above.
Action:
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ITF~ NO. .5 - PUBLIC DISCUSSION (ITF,14S'NOT ON THE AGENDA).
Horow/ Public discussion for items not on the agenda. This is the
time if you wish to address council about an item that is not
on the agenda, please come forward, sign in, state your name
and I wo~ld ask you to limit your comments to no more than
five minutes.
Bill Hubbard/ 1445 Oaklawn Avenue. My first question wouSd it be
pos. sible for me to use'the overhead projector?
Horow! Sure. We have got someone here who can help.
Hubbard/ On the December '6'meeting last month Mr. B~uce Glasgow
Came before you and requested that you expedite his request to
have a r. lo.w. called Virginia Drive paved. As the only other
property owner along that r.o.w, I feel I have some interest
in this m'atter and would like'to address you concerning the
matter.at this point in time. Yesterday afternoon I dropped
off a petition signed by residents in the area with the City
Clerk and I think you may have gotten that 'for your work
s~ssion last. night. It was signed by a number of people in the
neighborhood and generally states our opposition to that
paving and in particular Our opposition to Mr. Glasgow's
request that we be assessed for the improvement of that r.o.w.
Because I own property in the area I have actually done a
little bit of checking around and I would like to take this
opportunity to share with you some of the informatidn I have
about 'that r.o.w. Probably when I am done T think' you are
going to feel you are probably going to know more about it
than you ever wanted to. I would like to showyou this is Just
a map Of the general area to kind of ~rient you..This is-
Atkins/ Bill, excuse me a second.. You are going.to have to use the
microphone.
Horow/ Bill, I will be calling you on five minutes.
Hubbard/ (Can't hear). Okay. This is Prairie du Chien Road running
north out of town and I am getting this all unoriented. And
this is specifically, this is the area that we are talking
about right in here. What I would like to do is just show you
a little bit more blown up view which isn't going to fit on
here very well. Okay. If you pay particular attention to this
dash line right here, this represents sort of a dividing line
which is used in surveyin~ thes~ areas and it is an important
line because many o~ the legal references of ~his property are
stated against this line. Just to give you a brief history of
this. In 1953 the Whitings deeded a south 25 feet of.this
.r.o.w from this point to this Point from Prairie du Chien over
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to here and then on the same day in 1953 the Conways deeded
that same 25 feet on this. side of this dash line. So there was
a 50 foot r.o.w. established at that time. When this was
deeded over there was no' mention of any specific street'at
that time. Then in 1960 the Wh. itings deeded over an additional
10 feet south here from the parcel they had originally given
which made that 35 fee on this side and 25 fee on this side.
So a total r.o.w of 60 feet.' As this area developed, as the
Conway subdivision developed, as .all the Whitings Additi6n
developed, this parcel of land, the 60 foot r.o.w. as never
shown as a street on any of those plats. It was never platted
as a'street. It has always been shown simply as sort of a 60
foot no man's land. Okay. And when Mr. Glasgow did his
resubdi¥ision of lot 30, then it showpd up as just a 60 foot
r.o.w. Okay. So the point here is that it never existed
technically, as I understand it~ .as a city street. It was
never shown on a plat and it was never named in any document
that I could find. By this'.way 'this is where I live right
here. In 1977 the r.o.w., the portion running for Prairie du
Chien'over to here all the way to Oaklawnwas abandoned by the
city through an ordinance. However this remaining stretch from
Oaklawn Avenue over her~ to what is {he boundary of the Shimek
School property was not abandoned. This still exists and what
I understand it is ~t~11 in the possession of the. city. Okay.
Now-
Horow/ Mr. Hubbard, you are about out of time.
Hubbard/ Okay. Well, the point that I wanted to make waw that this
has never existed as a city street and Mr. Glasgow has, I
think, presented the.information such that it was a city
street at one point or another and also, I would Just like to
add that.he did have access to his property through the Samuel
· Drive area which he had. developed in 1987 and effegtively cut
off his access -to that area..Not I have read the
correspondence from Karin Franklin and at this point I don't
know whether the issue is settled or not. I just wanted to
come down and fill you in a little bit on my positio~. Thank
yOU.
Horow/ Thank you very much.
Kubby/ If Mr. Glasgow comes back to us requesting, some of that
information might be helpful for us to have in writing because
I am not going to be able to ~etain all that ~nformation about
25 feet here and-
Hubbard/ I would be happy to submit that to you at some point.
Horow/ Thank you. Anyone .else care to address council?
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John
Rummelhart/ Good evening. Try and make it short andsweet. My
concern is once again the proposed water plant situation. I
would like to ask just a couple of questions. I ~m curious
where Dr. Lioht's, Lou Lioht's suggestion when he was'up at
this platform some' time ago. Where his suggestio~ on the
'possibility of a alluvial vertical piping system. Is that at
all-?-
Horo~/ We are stiil working on pulling that material together.'I
can't answer that question for ]ou right now. That'is being
looked at.
Rummelhart/ When the alternatives that the city is currently
working on are all~valuated, all the numbers come in. What is
going'.to happen then? You will look at those alternatives an4
make a recommendation.
Horow/ We will look at those alternatives and with staff, workout
a recommendation that we will all then make a decision on.
Rummelhart/ So what the council is looking at is forever and a day
until this-plant is done is only at the current 'alternatives
that are in front of you?
Kubby/ Not necessarily. It matters what information comes back to
us and we also talked last night about the possibility of
widening' the scope of the value engineering study to'the
possibility of more ailuviai' water versus. river and or. deep
well water.
Rummelhart/ That is great. I appreciate that point'. Do you foresee
as a council any more or any public- input, any more public
input into this water plant issue?
Pigott/ We expect to have a forum after we have the infor~ati~n
from the staff. After ~hey.evatua~e the proposals, they are
supposed to present us with-a memo, we are suppose to,read
through it. We are supposed to-hold a community forum.'i think
~e have talked about doSng that and evaluate the decision,
=alk with the public about the decisions. So, ind~ed, we wil-~
have public input.
Rumm~lhart/ Is there a time frame on that?
Horow/ This is to be finished by M~roh..SO between now ahd t~e end
of March.
Kubby/ I thi~k the important thing about"the public process is once
we get the answers to the questions and the alternative
responses from our staff to the alternatives 'that .were
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presented during the p.h.s is not so much a panel discussion;
this is what we have decided. But to'get information to people
· so they understand the options we are looking at and then t9
have a 0ommunity discussion about it.
RLunmelhart/ Gre~.
Kubby/ Instead kind of a sell job ab. out what we have decided
because we don't want to decide until after we'have community
dialogue.
R~elhart/ That is super. That is'definitely encouraging. That 'is
a big'concern. One last item ~ d~ want to mention, It is such
a condem. It should.be for everybody in the city. And I think
it is. But I just filed today a proposed initiative res0~tion
in which we are hoping to get 2500 signatures 'to hopefully
have an indication of at least one train of thought in concern
on this-whole process.'I wouId lik~ to just read a small part
of that. I am out of time, am I. It is on file.'Maybe you have
got it there. The concern is to be sure we have the lowest
cost alternatives looked a~ in this process.
Lehman/ Just one Comment. I don't think there is anybody sitting up
here who isn't every bit'as interested as you are in getting
an efficient water plant .and I think we would look at any
a-lternative. I think it is important for us to all remember
that there are differences of opinion and' when we have. this
water forum, we are going to have. folks say one way is a
better way than another'and yet at some point we have to make
a decision. -'
Ru~melhart/ Will the current hired engineering firm, wil~ there be
a representative from Howard R. Green and or Stanley at this
meeting?'There will be. Okayl And willquestions b~ able to be
asked at this meeting? Great.. Thanks a lot.
Horow/Anyone'else care to address council on any issue that is not
On the agenda?
Laurie Tulchin/ I am the.co-~wner'of Blimpie 'Sub Shops. I am here
because we are putting in another Blimpie downtown at the old
Rocky's site and I am.working on some outside signage. I will
give you an elevation. I have done some work with an
ornamental sign guy to try and improve on some of the signage
that is available. This may look familiar to anybody that-
especially to you, Steve, it is right up the hill from you.
This is the Blimpie sign and it is Just kind of a yuckie
internally illuminated franchise style sign. What I would like
to do is something out' of cast aluminum and copper which
projects into the pedestrian '~a11.and sort of ~uplicates the
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1870's appearance of an older style sign. But when I went to
the DR Committee to review this type of a sign, they couldn't
act on it because there is no defini%ion for a projected sign
in the sign standards. So, I went to the Building Department
and she also told me that there was nothing they could do
because that type of sign doesn't exist. I will show you a
little drawing. The only kind of signs that are in-the sign
standards are canopy signs, awning signs. You know, like the
Hills Bank sign and the Pizza Hut sign and I Just as soon not
do a sign like that on the Rocky building~ But I can't get
anywhere because nobodyknows where a projected sign is unless
the time and temperature is hanging off of it.
Horow/ It seems to me when I was on th~ P/Z Commission and the HP
Commission that there were' differeht people who wanted to
place signs that stuck out.from the building. Is'this what you
are talking about?
Tulchen/ Yes.'
Horow/ That has been dealt with in the past.
Tulchin/ Supero.Just tell me what tb do next.
Horpw / (Can't hear) The facades of the d.~. area were mean~ all to
be the same manner. That one-was not to be more spectacular
than the other.
Tulchia/ Well, I am not after spectacular. '~ .am Just after
something a little classier than the Pizza Hut sign and if
anybody here is interested in doing something like that I
would appreciate some direction on how to'proceed.
Nov/ Explain a little bit more about what'this is.
Tulch~n/ These signs are made Out of cast aluminumand copper. They
-project and these drawings are Just preliminarydrawings. They
can certainly be modified to meet any kind of requirements for
height and how far they project. But if you want to do a
fascia sign it is going to look like that.
Horow/ Is there anything wrong.with putting this material on the
building9
Tulch~n/ I would like to be able t~ read is from both directions a~
t~e people approach. ~acia signs are usually very boring and
we've spent a lot of money remod91ing the building. We'd
~eally like to do some~hing nice.
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Horow/ It is too bad we can't go'bqck in time because we h~ve done
a number of companies who have asked us to do this and they
have had the same advice give~ 'to them. So it is a matter of
what is fair.
Throg/ If your point is right then it is puzzling that the DR
Committee would have told Lauri~ that they don't know what ~o
do and that Building Inspection Department would have told her
the sa~e thing. That is the puzzler.
Tulohin/ The Building Department told me to come ~0 you'guys and to
see if I could get you to add some'kind of a definition for a
projected sign so I would know wha~ to comply with.
Horo~/ We can certainly take that under-consideration.
Throg/ It would be nice to direct that to if we wanted to-
Horow/ Karin, could you come up and tell the process whereby this
might-
Franklin/ In the 60's when the sign ~rdinance was adopted one of
the targets was projected signs, to prohibit them. It doesn't
meant that we can't consider that again. So, the proper way to
address thi~ would be to look at projecting signs 'as an
amendment to the Sign Ordinance. It goes to P/Z and then comes
to the city.council. So, we can work on that.
Horow/ With consultation from DR?
Franklin/ Yes.
Tulchin/ So, what should 'I do next?
Franklin/ Come see me.
Throg~ Let's do it.
Horow/ Great, took care Of that.
Nov/ You are talking about. a sign that is perpendicular to the
building.
Tulchtn/ Like Ye 01d-
Horow/ Ye Old'Eatery-
Tulchin/.It is better than an a%u~ing sign or the Hardees sign or
the Burger King sign. I mean you can't possibly. like. those
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signs. They are horrible. We have got enough of them. I mean
we should really do Something.nice,'I think. " '
Kubby/ Or something that is designed for ~he build%ng sotmds %ery
interestihg.
Tu%chin/ Right.
Horow/ May I suggest that-you also get the DTA inwolved.with wha~
you are trying to do..
Tulchin/ S~re. Whatever it takes, I will do it.
Horow/ Thank you Very much. Anyone else-care to address council.
Dean Thornberry/ Even though I don't own the Burger King d.%., I
will take exception to the'sign, the Burger King sign. It is
a copper-sign. I had the building all redone outside. I took
down the Iowa Theater marquee. I could have left-the Iowa
Theater.marquee up. I replaced it with what is there now as
opposed to the Iowa Theater marquee. So I will just take
exception to the sign.
Horow/ Exception received. Anyone else care to address council on
any issues?Seeing none, we move to item 6.'
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ITEM NO. 6 a.
Public hearing on an amendment of the compre-
hensive Plan to change the land use map desig-
nation of property located on the north side
of Highway'l West from 8-16 dwelling units'per
acre and 16-24 dwelling units per acre to 2-8
dwelling units per acre and general commer-
cial. · .
Horow/ I ask you to sign in, keep your comments to five minutes and
try to let any of thosedpeople who have something else to say
other than what was s~i at the previous meeting speak first.
Throg! S~e, do we want to combine various hearings?
Woito7 NOo
Horow/ P.h. is open.
Mary Hitchcock/ From 1507 North Dubuque Road. At this time I would
like to tell the council that since the.P/Z reviewed this
matter the Rupperts have received an official appraisal. It is
about this thick. It was done by Keith Westercamp. He iS an
MIA Appraiser and while the Rupperts were under the impression
when they talked with the P/Z Department, Karin Franklin and
Mr. Braverman that the exchange of commercial for.RM-44 was
"basically a kind of even exchange which made the-whole thing
a fair and equitable solution to the problem. The appraisal
comes back and tells us that R M-44, the value of the RM-44
property is off the top of my head, $1.3 million and the
shortfall by changing the zoning as'it is'currently proposed
makes the devaluation of the property $851,000 net. The
Rupperts would like the matter to be deferred until their
attorney' can go over all of. this paperwork and see if
something can be done or referred back to P/Z so P/Z tan have
this information and make a decision about what they think is
right to do considering the fact that this is a sizable~aking
from the Rupperts if it is left as it is. Thankyou very much.
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Richard lAbodes/ 2014 Rochester Avenue. I simply wanted to advi~e
you the fact that I have had a. letter distributed to you in
response to Councilman Baker's request last time that I have
a written form of points that I have raised. I still am very
interested. I am standing up during this item because comp
plan is part of it all. I am still very interested in what the
city appointed environmental technical advisory committee was
consulted about this whole ball of wax because it is all an
intertwined issue as far as I can see. The zoning, the ~omp
plan, everything. Thank you.
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Throg/ I think that is a good point and I wonder if we do, in fact,
send-it back to P/Z. If there is the possibility of a viable
action in the future, it would be good to ask-to invite that
· technical advisory committee to review and comment and make
suggestions on what is being proposed.
Horow/ Anyone else care to address council?
Judith.Knabe/ I would like to relinquish my time-to my husband.
Mary Jo Kenny/ I would like to relinquish my time to William Knabe.
Hor0w/ Nice tie, Bill.
William Knabe/ Thank you. It is very appropriate to the occasion.
It is all that jazz. I live at 1101 Weebet circle and I am
speaking tonight as a representative of the Weeber/Harlocke
neighborhood Association. I will try to keep my remarks brief
since' this issue is likely to be deferred back to P/Z
Commission. for further consideration. The neighborhood
association is obviously disappointed that an acceptable
resolution of this matter cannot be reached. Never-the-less we
stand ready to continue our efforts to work with al% parties
to arrive at a fair and equitable solution. There are two
issues which I want to speak to this evening. One deals with
the January 27 memo you received for the city attorneyand her
assistant regarding their interpretation of projected traffic
counts from developments of the Jensen and RuppertTracts. The
other concerns how we are all expected to proceed for 'this
point on. I will be sending you a letter that addresses both
of these issues in more detail. For the benefit of those in
the audience who have not Seen the January 27 memo from the
'city attorney to members of the city council. The stated
p~rpose of that memo w~s to address the legal question 9f the
defensibility of the proposed. rezoning configuration, i.e. RS-
5 for both the Jensen Tract and the western portion of the
RuppertTract as proposed to an RS-8'rezoning. I must make it
clear at the onset we i~ nO way wish to challenge the city
attorney's conclusions regarding 'what she perceives might
happen in a court of law. Nor do we. want these remarks to be
construed in any way .as a lack of respect for the city
attorney and her staff.-Personally I have always-hel~ a very
high regard for the city attorney and continue to do so. But
this memo contains some lnflammatory statements and draws some
incorrect conclusions which unfortunately someone has .to
address. The memo deals sp~cifically with th~ specter of
traffic congestion and that is the la~quage of the memo or the
perceived impact of development .of the Jensen a-hd Ruppert
Tracts. And here I am referring always to the western portion
of the Ruppert Tract. In terms of additional traffic through
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the Harlocke/Weeber n~ighborhood, the specific arguments or
statement we wish to challenge are the following. First,.the
interpretation that is given to projected traffic counts. I
would like to demonstrate this problem byusingthe sametable
prepared by Bob Miklo with the P/Z staff'which the city
attorney's office used to arrive at their cohclusions. This
particular table y6umay recall is just a large or larger copy
of the table that appeared in the memo, the.actual table that
appeared in the memo. Just to make it very quickly clear to
refresh.your memo on what the memo says. It is ~ vez~ nicely
put together table that indicates the n~mber of dwelling Units
that are projected-
Horow/ You got to have a microphone.
Knahe/ The number of dwelling units that are projected, the number
of trips per day per unit and the projected trips per day.
Then down on this side you can see .if Jensen is RS-8, Jensen
is RS-5~ Ruppert is RS-8, if Ruppert is RS-5 and then the
combination between the two. The.last statement which is the
statement that is also ~art of the graphic. I want to call to
you attention the number of dwelling units on each parcel was
based on the parcel developing at 65% of the maximumdensity
allowed by each zone because the topographic constraints
potential densities might be slightly less. So what you are
looking at here is a rather conservative set of d~ta based
upon a 65% of a maximum density. As a trained statistician, I
must remind you these figures are not factual. Therefore, they
cannot be actually. Yet in the memo that is directe~ to you,
the reference is "These are the actual traffic counts in the
.Harlocke/Weeber neighborhood." They are not based on real life
studies. They have been-done in the 'Weeber/Harlocke
neighborhood. They are only theoretical guesses generated by
the P/Z staff based on a formula provided by the Traffic and
Engineering staff. While I would not question that we
sometime~ must place'some degree of faith in such theoretical
nulabers due to the.absence of real data. If I did make such a
statement as a statistician I would be dead. I must caution
youabout making fact out of fiction. There are two points
regarding this set of figures tha~ raise questions in my mind.
One-The number ok dwelling units on each parcel was based upon
the parcel developing at 65% of the maximum densi~ya1!owedby
· each .zone. Because of topographic constraints potential
densities might be slightly less. W9 Would arque that-even if
one takes into consid~rat~on topographic constraints, the
number of units.might actually be more. Especially if the
developer comes in with a planned development o~ an OPDH. The
second point, the number oftrips per day per unit, seven, has
decreased dramatically since the last trip generation report
for this area was complied. A~d we feel compelled to ask the
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question why. I wish ~o show you this particular memo that was
w~itten on -October 26, 1984~.¥ou can see Karin Was then a
Senior Planner. The only thing' that I waht to refer your
attention to is this little line right here, RS-8, maximum
unit 63, number of trips 630.. Now it doesn't take-a real
scholarly mathematician to figure that out that that is ten
trips.perumit per day and not seven. Now perhaps we would all
like to believe this rather dramatic drop is due to the
effects of maes transit but it hardly seems likely. Second,
the memo reaches the ~ollowing conclusi0n regarding these
projected traffic counts. Although, and I quote, "Although an
RS-5 zoning results in a vehicle trip total below the
guideline" and this is. m~ insert to explain .it tO you. The
city's policy indicates the residential streets-. should
generally be designed for 500 vehicle tripe per day. An RS-5
designation would generate a total of 449 trips for this are~.
And RS-8 rezoning would result in a total of 645. ~d I would
continue the quote. Well let me restate the quote. Although an
RS-5 zoning results in a vehicle trip total below the
guideline, an RS-8 rezoning does not result in a total which
i~ unreasonably above the preferred standard. Now even if'we
were to accept these numbers as fact, the question we'would
raise here is how. Qan you arrive projected at such a
conclusion as unreasonably above the preferred standard. The
difference between the RS-5'projectioD and the RS-8 proj~etion
represents a 29% increase. That is almost one third and that
is a signiYicant diff.erence in any statistical test that
anyone would have wished to apply. So I fail to see why it
would not be considered "unreasonably above the standard." But
I would seriously question the'manner in which'this data has
been presented to you. Let's look at the data in a different
way.
Horow/ Bill, when you go to use
way in the middle of your
across too hpavy, too loud.
that mic, keep it down about mid
necktie because you are coming
Knabe/ Let's Iook' at this data in a different ~ay.-Let's ask the
question, what are we really talking about in terms of an
increase in traffic? Given, currently there are approximately
260 vehicle trips p~r day on Hatlocke. This is a quote from
the Bob Miklo's memo. Problem, how'much of an'increase will
that be on Hatlocke if the Jensen Tract on the western portion
of the Ruppert Tradt are both zoned'RS-5 or. bo~h:zoned RS~5.
~ook at these figures. Our current estimate of traffid on
Hatlocke Street is 260 trips per day. If it'were zoned'RS-5
the number of trips would be 449.-.The total number of trips
· are an increase of 173%. I~ it was. zoned, if both. tracts of
land were zoned RS-8 the. increase ~ould be 645 or the number
of t~ips would be 645 trips of day or an increase of 248%~ We
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consider such an increase unreasonable above the preferred
standards..Even if we accept these theoretical projections,-a
248% increase in traffic on a 24 'foqt wide street t~at feeds
into anothe~ 24 foot wide street that already generates 266
trips, ~hat is 38 houses times 7 using their figures. Plus
additional area traffic thaC subsequently feeds into West
Benton Street is reason for great-concern. Third,-this quote
from the memo, "Thus, the neighborhood concerns for the
specter of thousands of vehicles passing through the
neighborhood is simply_ not factually supported." I do not
know the source of this quote or if it is a quote but I guess
you would say the theoretical'number of cars passing through
the neighborhood on.a daily basis'would be only 911 plus'those
cars that Just drive through the neighborhood. So I guess it
would only be fair to say that we are linking our neighborhood
to about a thousand cars per day~ Finally, what we find most
disturbing about the city attorney'.s memo is the prevailing
spirit of absolutism throughout. the c6mmuni0ation that
culminates in the conclusion with. the statement, "that the
specter of traffic congestion-is simply not a valid objective
conclusion.'t If this is true then why -have we subjected
ourselves for such a long long time to such deceptions. Why
has the P/Z..staff, members O~ the Commission, the-owners, the
developers, members of the neighborhood all stated in public
documents at some time during their precedence that they~ave
recognized that there · is M potential t~affic 'congestion
problem. Have we been perceived by the __, I would argue
certainly not. And I hope we are' not qullible enough to
believe that a problem does not exist just because someone
says it does not exist. Perhaps before leaving this memo I
should point out we are not in disagreement with all:it says.
There are some things with which we would agree. For example,
the explanation provided regarding the indefensibility of or
indefensibility of the prior P/Z'recommendation, that is. that
the Jensen Tract be fezcried RS-5 and the Ruppert Tract RS-8,
represents and I.quote, "a distinction without a difference."
We would concur with the conclusion which is why we have
consistently requestgd RS-5 for both tracts from the time that
this rezoning was first initiated-ten years ago. The second
major point that I want to address this evening is how~re we
perceived from this ~oint on..
Horow/ Bill, do you have anyone else to relinquish you any more
time?
Knabe/ No.
Horow/ Can you wrap it up?
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Knabe/ Yes. I just want to make ~WO suggestions very.quickly to
you. FirSt of all I think that a special effort needs to be
made to make certain that all'communication if-shared with all
parties involved. It is difficult to ~egotiate something if
not all sides have access to the communication that. is taking
place. The second thing that I want to make to you is that
you haye strong feelings ~bout the direction in which you want
to see future discussions or negotiations move or
-recommendations you expeGt'the P/Z'Commission to address~ save
them now and.'not after the fact. You owe that-much to'a~l of
the parties that.are involved with this issuel We are no~
asking y~u to dictate the ~sults. We are asking you to. only
set the parameters of' acceptability. Thank you.
Horow/ Thank you very much. Does -anyone else. care t6 address
council on this issue? Declare the p.h. closed.
Karr/ Could we have a motion to accept correspondence~
Horow/ Moved by Pigott, seconded by Baker to accept correspondence.
Any discussion. All those in favor signify by saying aye
(ayes).
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ITEM NO. 6b.
Consider a resolution amending the Comprehensive
Plan to change.the land use map designation of
property located on the north side of Highway 1
West from 8-16 dwelling units per acre and 16-24
'dwelling units per acre to 2-8 dwelling units-per
acre and general commercial. (First.Consideration)
Horow/ This is a land use perspective where we are asked to
consider residential decreasing. the residential density and
changing some of the residential to commercial. Moved by No~,
seconded by Throg. Discussion.' '
Kubby/ 'If we do .this will it tie P/Z's hands or decrease the
options for the negotiations because what we will be doing
with this is saying part of the Ruppert tract is going to be
commercial and their concern is they will be tied-their
concern will not be able to be dealt with about that land use
of comme[cial. I mean maybe that is okay that we want to tone
.it down~o that at %his point.
Throg/ Since that part is 9urrently zoned residential it would-not
necessarily have to be 'rezoned commercial. It could
conceivable remain zoned 'tHe.way it is now.
Horow/ We are setting the parameter.
Woito/ May I respond, Karen. If you are concerned that the iayout
of the 2-8 dwelling units per acre for most of the Jensen; the
piRce west of' Hatlocke, the Ruppert and then a portion 6f the
commercial along the Ruppert Tract is not appropriate ~hen I
would defeat this and not send a signal to P/Z. If you think
this is an appropriate land use without the specifics. for each
particular piece then it is appropriate for you to give P/Z
some guideline~ and the property owners some'guidelines as to
where you want them to head.
Kubby/ Okay, when you say each pa~ticular piece you mean the exact
property lin~-?
Woito/ I mean the rezoning.
Kubby~ It is not dictated by what iS in the comp. plan. It is the
general area.
woito/ This should display at least~We have been talking about this
for at least a year and I know you haPe been talking about it
a lot longer. But if you have an intent to change it from the
RM-44 then it seems appropriate that now is the time to do it.
It is a broad intent. It is not specific.
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Nov/ You are talking about j~st the comprehensive plan and not the
individual zonings? ;
Woito/ That is correct.
Pigoft/ I think that gives us some flexibility while maintaining
some parameters. I am not against-
Horow/ It gives P/Z some flexibility to work oh this.
Throg/ It doesn't say whether we want them to do RS-8 or RS-5 but
it doss say basically below RS-8 at least on the west Side.
thi~k we ought to-
WoitQ/ It tells {hem you don'.t want RM-4~ for sure.
Pigott/ Right.
Kubby/ Right, it is also saying we don't want residential there as
well of any kind of any density.
Throg/ On the east side..
Horow/ Plus the minutes that have been taken from this meeting, the
discussi6ns that we have had about the ravine certainly
obviously are going to get back to P/Z. Anybody have any other
discussion about this?
Kubby/ We were talking about putting this back ko P/Z and opening
up negotiations again. So I don't understand where things are
going to be different on the commercial aspect of it which is
why this. whole thing is kind of falling apart is because of
the Rupperts concern and ~herefore they don't Want to sign a
conditional zoning agreement. So what will come back to us
different.
Nov/
My ooncern is not Just the Rupperts. It is the Jensen folks
also who didn't get to participate and sign the agreement and
the Buss family didn't get to participate. So there are other
people who have been really concerned about this that haven't
had a chance to be in on'it. It isn't just the Ruppert family.
Horow/ That is the same for me. I think that those people getting
invoIved in the discussions at the P/Z level will bring a
different dimension to how PTZ looks at it. '
Pigott/ Let's hope so.
Kubby/ As long as the Jensens will get involved.' There was
opportunity and a letter for the mayor went out to everybody
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and as long as they take this opportunity as well as
ourselves.. I mean I guess what I would like us to do in part
is to request that P/Z respond to each of the ~oints in the
SandyRhodes memo as part of the direction as well as'the comp
plan.
Nov/ And bring the technical.advisory committee in on.this'.
Kubby/ That is one of the points.
Throg/ And a directly related point has to do with.the discussions
about open.space'that might be donated by the Buss's or might
be connected to the Jensen Tract and so on. The conversations
that we have had.
Nov/ Sounds l~ke you ought to involve the P/Z Commission members.
Ask them to. send a representative.
Horow/ Certainly the ones with the Open Space. Get everyone one
there. What the beck. I don't mean to jest about this but it
does seem to me that this has been coming for a long time but
we now are identifying more and more people who do have a part
to play in this. Any further discussion. Roll call- (yes).
Great. Resolution passes, 7/0.
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Agenda
Iowa City City Council
Regular Council Meeting
January 31, 1995
Page 5
Public hearing on an ordinance changing the use regulations of an
approximate four acre tract of land, known as the Jensen tract, located
east of Harlocke Street frooro RM-44, High Density Multi-Family
Residential, to RS-5, Low Density Single-Family Residential. (REZ93-
0007)
Comment: At its December 15, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning
Commission, by a vote of 4-1-1, with Jakobsen voting no and Dierks
abstaining, recommended approval of an ordinance changing the use
regulations of an approximate four acre tract of land, known as the
Jensen tract, located east of Harlocke Street from RM-44, High Density
Multi-Family Residential, to RS-5, Low Density Single-Family Residential.
The Commission's recommendation is consistent with the staff
recommendation contained in the staff memorandum dated December
9, 1994. A protest petition has been submitted and thus a three-fourths
(six of seven members) vote of the Council is required to approve this
rezoning. The public hearing was continued from the January 17, 1995,
CiW Council meeting. Public comnlents were received at the January
17, 1995, meeting. ~z/~_/~ ~,~..~_,.¢1i/~. ~~_.~,
Consideration of an ordinance changing the use regulations of an
approximate four acre tract of land, known as the Jensen tract, located
east of Hatlocke Street froro RM-44, High Density Multi-Family
Residential, to RS-5, Low Density Single-Family Residential. (REZ93-
0007) (First Consideration)
Comment: See item c. above.
Action= /~,~/~'~.
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ITEM NO.
Public hearing on an ordinance cha~ging the
use regulations of an approximate .fou~ acre
tract of land, known as the Jensen tract,
located east of Hatlocke Street from RM-44,
High Density Multi-Family Residential, to RS-
5, Low Density Single-Family Residential.
(REZ93-0007)
Horow/ Items c.; e., g.i. and k. are p,h.s on the zoning changes.
Rather then going through these it is council's intention to
defer this. We do not have a.plan before us to even really
take meaningful public input.'So ~he intention of council is
to send back to P/Z Commission because frankly the consensus
that was there is no.longer there.
Kubby/-Can we not open p~h.?
Woito/ You might as well combine them, open them and close them.
Horow/ Open the ph.s for c., e., g., i., and k. - (Kubby/Pigott to 'combine c., e., g., t., and k.)
C%osing the p.h. on c.,'e., g., i., and k. Discussion. We are
deferring this indefinitely.
Nov/ Don't you want to let somebody'talk?
Horow/'Open it .back up. Go right ahead. Realize that we are
deferring this back to P/z.
Bill Buss/ Well, you are deferring part of it. As you know I am
William Buss, 747 Wes~ Benton Street and you guys kaow what
.you are doing but I. don't and it is a little bit confusing. I
understand that you just approved the change in the comp plan.
And what iS very unclear to me is what that means and what you
intend it to mean ih with respect to the commercial zone. In
other words, if you look at a comp plan map, there is a little
bit strip of commercial in the bottom southeast corner ahd
have you changed that.
Horow/ (No).
BUSS/ Okay, thank you, that is all.
Horow/ Close it again.
Karr/ Could we accept'correspondence?
Horow/ Moved by Throg, seconded by Pigott to accept correspondence.
Any discussion. All.those ih favor signify by saying aye
(ayes). We are still on the discussion of the deferral.
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Throg/ I would like to say something about the traffic counts. Last
night in our work session discussions we were ~sin9 language
like safe versus dangerous as if current traffic levels were
safe and increases might or might not be dangerous. It .is like
zero and one. And it is either or. And the idea that a traffic
increase of ~-00 or so vehicles would be dangerous or. not
dangerous you know is relatively safe to say a bit odd. So
what I wo,uld like to suggest is that we ask staff to prepare
a distribution of traffic counts for local streets within Iowa
City so that we have a sense of how man~ streets, local
streets, have what counts. And we would end up with a plot of
these local street counts and then have a sense of where a
street like Hatlocke fits within that distribution curve and
then we would be able to see how it moves along the curve so
to speak.
Horow/ I would like to find'if staff is set up to-
Arkins/ I was going to say that I suspect we have that. I don't
know if we have it-You don't want all the streets. We can give
you certainly a representative sample.
Throg/ All the local streets that we have counts for and I k~ow-
Woito/ At least a good random sample. I think that is an excellent
idea.
Franklin/ I think most of our counts focus on collectors and
arterials and a lot of the countsare done.by-Well, they are
done on a regular basis. Well, we will Jus~ see what we have.
what you want is when you say distribution you mean, for
instance, how many streets have between 200 and 300 80T or 600
and 700 80T. Okay. Just for local streets?
Woito/ The range is really I to 1,000. i to 500 as we talked about
last night.
Franklin/ Okay, Just for local streets.
Throg/ Yes. Some comparati~e-
Nov/
I have to comment on this'safe versus dangerous since you
bFought it up. It isn't the numbers that make this safe or
dangerous. It is the c~reful drivers who obey the speed
limits, who look out for children because you can have a
street without a single ac6iden~ that has 2,000 vehicles a day
if it is well controlled.
Throg/ There is truth to that~
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Horow/ Any other discussion?-The motion is on the floo~ to defer
this indefinitely. We are referring %his back to-
Woito/ Wait a'.minute. There is not motion on the ordinance.'
Kubby/ Move to combine and defer all of the-
Horow/ We already moved to combine-
P%gott/ No, the p.h.s.. We have done the p.h.s but not the
ordin~nces.
Kubby/ Move .to combine and defer
indefinitely.
Nov/ I.second.
the Harlocke/Weeber
rezo~ing
Throg/ And do what with them?'
Horow/ Send it back to P/Z'where it will be taken there. T~en it
will eventually come back to us. So you are combining the
ordinances-
Nov/ Deferring all three zoning ogdinances.
Kubby/ When we vote, are We voting 6o c6mbine or-
Horow/ Moved by'Kubby, seconded by Throg. Disoussion.'All those in
favor signify by saying aye (ayes). Okay. That takes'care of
that.
Throg/ ...Just goes on and on and one.
Horow/ Trust me since 1984, you are right.
Kubby/ It is important to note ~hat this time it is not the council
that wants to take a.look at this again. That it is parties
involved. I mean we have done-a lot of that but in this case
it is not our doing. It ultima is because we Just voted on it.
Horgw/ And we have to vote again.
Throg/ The key point is these are so many.parties involved and we
want to them to agree so that it is something the community
and the property ow~ners all share.
Kubby/ It is a good value to have to try to come to some truly
satisfactory position for everybody. And that does take time
and even though it seems like a hassle and it takes time. If
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it works, it means there is satisfaction and 6wnership of this
in the community.
Throg/ Not only that, if perhaps we could deal with the traffic
issue and. avoid concerns about unconstitutional takings of
private property which we don't want to get into. This is a
way to do it.
Horow/ We can hope for that but a~ some point council will have to
make the 'decision and there might be someone who might not
like the de~ision that council makes.
Nov/ We made the decision tonight for the first time in a long
time.
Pigott/ We did. Let's not forget that.
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Agenda
Iowa City City Council
Regular Council Meeting ·
January 31, 1995
Page 6
Public hearing on an ordinance amending the Zoning Ordinance by
changing the use regulations of approximately two acres located
generally on the west side of Harlocke Street from RM-44, High Density
Multi-Family Residential, to RS-5, Low Density Single-Family Residential.
(REZ93-0007)
Comment: At its December 15, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning
Commission, by a vote of 4-1-1, with Jakobsen voting no and Dierks
abstaining, recommended approval of changing the use regulations of
approximately two acres located generally on the west side of Harlocke
Street from RM-44, High Density Multi-Family Residential to RS-5, Low
Density Single Family Residential. The Commission's recommendation
is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the staff
memorandum dated December 9, 1994. The public hearing was
continued from the January 17, 1995, City Council meeting. Public
comments were received at the January 17, 1995, meeting.
Action: ~_.~-~( C~-,~-----r~<~_~
Consideration of an ordinance amending the Zoning .Ordinance by
changing the use regulations of approximately two acres located
generally on the west side of Harlocke Street from RM-44, High Density
Multi-Family Residential, to RS-5, Low Density Single-Family Residential.
(REZ93-0007) (First Consideration)
Comment: See item e. above.
Action: ~
Public hearing on an ordinance amending the use regulations of an
approximate 4.57 acre tract of land, known as the western portion of
the Ruppert tract, located generally north of'Highway I West from RM-
44, High Density Multi-Family Residential, to RS-5, Low Density Single-
Family Residential. (REZ93-0007)
Comment: At its December 15, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning
Commission, by a vote of 5-0-1, with Dierks abstaining, recommended
approval of an ordinance changing the use regulations of an approximate
4.57 acre tract of land, known as the western portion of the Ruppert
tract, located generally north of Highway 1 West from RM-44, High
Density Multi-Family Residential, to RS-5, Low Density Single-Family
Residential. The Commission's recommendation is consistent with the
staff recommendation contained in the staff memorandum dated
December 9, 1994. The public hearing was continued from the January
17, 1995, City Council meeting. Public comments were received at the
January 17, 1995, meeting.
Action: ~_~ /'~,~.x~
Agenda
Iowa City City Council
Regular Council Meeting
January 31, 1995
Page 7
Consideration of an ordinance amending the use regulations of an
approximate 4.57 acre tract of land, known as the western portion of
the Ruppert tract, located generally north of Highway 1 West from RM*
44, High Density Multi-Family Residential, to RS-5, Low Density Single-
Family Residential. {REZ93-0007) (First Consideration)
Comment: See item g. above.
Action: ,~/--~__E~ "~'"
Public hearing on an ordinance amending the Zoning Ordinance by
conditionally changing the use regulations of an approximate 4.09 acre
tract, known as the eastern portion of the Ruppert Tract, [ocated
generally north of Highway 1 West from RM-4¢, High Density Multi-
Family Residential, to CC-2, Community Commercial. (REZ93-0007)
Comment: At its December 15, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning
Commission, by a vote of {~-0-1, with Dierks abstaining, recommended
approval of changing the use regulations of an approximate 4.09 acre
tract, known as the eastern portion of the Ruppert Tract, located
generally north of Highway 1 West from RM44, High Density Multi-
Family Residential, to CC-2, Community Commercial, subject to a
Conditional Zoning Agreement requiring the retention of the existing
natural buffer within the western 200 feet of the tract. The
Commission's recommendation is consistent with the staff recommenda-
tion contained in the staff memorandum dated December 9, 1994. The
public hearing was continued from the January 17, 1995, City Council
meeting. Public comments were received at the January 17, 1995,
meeting.
Action:
Consideration of an ordinance amending the Zoning Ordinance by
conditionally changing the use regulations of an approximate 4.09 acre
tract, known as the eastern portion of the Ruppert Tract, located
generally north of Highway 1 West from RM-44, High Density Multi-
Family Residential, to CC-2, Community Commercial. (REZ93-0007)
(First Consideration) '~
Comment: See'item i. above.
Action:
Agenda
Iowa City City Council
'Regular Council Meeting
January 31, 1995
Page 8
Public hearing on an ordinance amending the Zoning Chapter by
changing the use regulations of an approximate 1.5 acre tract of land
located north of Highway I West and west of Miller Street from ~S-8,
Medium DensiW Single-Family Residential, to CC-2, Community
Commercial. (REZ94-001 9)
Comment: At its December 15, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning
Commission, by a vote of 4-1-1, with Jakobsen voting no and Dierks
abstaining, recommended approval of a City-initiated application to
fezone an approximate 1.5 acre tract of land located north of Highway
1 West and west of Miller Street from RS-8, Medium Density Single-
Family Residential, to CC-2, Community Commercial. The Commission's
recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation contained
in the staff memorandum dated December 9, 1994. The public hearing
was continued from the January 17, 1995, City Council meeting. Public
comments were received at the January 17, 1995, meeting.
Action: ~g~/~/- ~
Consideration of an ordinance amending the Zoning Chapter by changing
the use regulations of an approximate 1.5 acre tract of land located
north of Highway 1 West and west of Miller Street from RS-8, Medium
Density Single-Family Residentihl, to CC-2, Community Commercial.
(REZ94-0019) (First Consideration)
Comment: See item k. above.
Action: ~ ~'/t
Public hearing on a resolution to annex an 80 acre-tract of land, for a
project known as.the Green View Manufactured Housing Park, located
southeast of Sycamore Street and east of the Pleasant Valley Golf
Course. (ANN94-0007)
Comment: At its December 1, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning
Commission, by a vote of 5-1, with Dierks voting no, recommended
approval of the City of Iowa City and Robert and Erma Wolf request to
annex an approximate 80 acre parcel, to be known as Green View
Manufactured Housing Park, located southeast of Sycamore Street and
east of the Pleasant Valley Golf Course. The Commission's recommen-
dation is consistent with the staff recommendation as set forth in the
staff report dated September 1, 1994. The public hearing is continued
from the January 3 and January 17, 1995, City Council meetings.
Public comments were received at t~nua~_.~ January 17, 1995,
meetings.
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ITF~I NO. 6 m.
Public hearing on a resolution to annex an 80
acre tract of land, for a projectknown as the
Green. View Manufactured Housing Park, located
southeast of Sycamore Street.and east of the
Pleasant Valley Golf Course.' (ANN94~0007)
Horow/ P.h. is open. I would ask you to sign in, state your name
and keep YOUr remarks limited to no more than five minutes,
please;
Richard Rhodes/ 2014 Rochester Avenue. I have hot address the
council before regarding the Green View annexation and
rezoning. The reason that I have'not addressed you is that the
conditional zoning agreement that the developer agreed to
adequately addressed the protection of the sensitive areas
both on this tract'and on the adjacent area. These sensitive
areas are primarily wetlands and they include a large wetland
complex to the east on Snyder Creek Bottoms. However, as an
advocate of environmentally rational development I have been
concerned about reports that I have been reading the last
couple of weeks in the newspaper. These reports say that the
development of this mobile home park may proceed under county
jurisdiction. From both a planning and environmental
perspective, it would be ill advised to allow a second mobile
home park to be developed adjacent to city limits and
contiguous city limits. Why do I feel this way? If ~his mobile
home park were developed in {he county it would require an
independent sewage.disposal system. It is totally%mconnected
with that of Iowa City. There are going to be a large number
of inhabitants in this mobile home park whether it is within
county jurisdiction or with the city jurisdiction and indeed
it will .probably develop at a' greater density if it is
developed in'the county than if it were developed in the city.
These inhabitants will generate a large amount of sewage as we
well know. And regardless of how well managed this independent
sewage system is, it will be more susceptible to environment
damaging malfunctions than with the city sewer system. And I
would point. out to you that .the southeast interceptor goes
along the east side of this degelopment, Just down hill from
it, just to the west of the development, will be the major
sewer line connecting the north south plants. I would urge you
to do everything in your power to make sure that if this is
developed, that it is developed within Iowa City. Thank you
very much.
Pigott/ Thanks, Sandy.
Horow/ Anyone else care to address council on this issue?
Karr/ Could we have a motion to accept correspondence?'
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Horo~/ Moved by Pigott, .seconded by Baker. All those in favor
signify by saying aye (ayes)-. Thank you.
Mark
Dorpinghuas/.I am the business manager for Modern Manor in
Iowa City. I won'ttake up much of your time. I Just ~anted to
submit to the council a brief-list of 80 names of residents of
Modern manor which is the information that it will give you
will submit-their names and their occupations. I Just want you
to realize the diversity ofthe type of people that we have at
Modern Manor which I am positive will be the diversity that we
will have at Green'View Mobil~ Home Park. We have diversity of
people on very fixed 'incomes, factory workers, teachers,
attorneys and physicians. I would Just like. to submit this to
you for you to look over. I am afraid I didn't make eDough
copies. I did make three.
Horow/ Give it to the City Clerk. Thank you very much. IS there
anyone else that would like to address council?
Lehman/ Bob, what will your rents be out there approximately?
Bob Wolf/ In answer to your question! the rents at Modern Manor-are
$195, $190.
Lehman/ Is that about ballpark for-?
Wolf/ Because of the low density in the proposed park we"used the
budget number of $200 a month.
Lehman/ And that includes no utilities.. It does not includ~ sewer
or water.
Wolf/ That is correct.
Lehman/ What is HUD's fair market value rent in Iowa City?
Wolf/ They have changed numbers on us, $153.
Lehman/ So the degree of subsidy WOUld in 'fact be in the
neighborhood of $47?
Wolf/ $47, that is correct.
Lehman/ So on 116 lots there would be the opportuDity. of
subsidizing up to $47'?
Wolf/ Yes, right.
Kubby/ Does your lot rent at Modern Manor include sewer and water
charges or .is that a separate item above the-?
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Wolf/ No. Sewer and water are included in Modern Manor. We.have our
own water treatment plant. We also have our own. sewage
treatment plant. Incidently, our costs a~e more in the
neighborhood of $7 per month per dwelling unit.
Kubby/ So it would. be lot rent plus utilities at Green View. Normal
lot rent of $200 plus city utility which are then projected to
be about $40 a lot. Does that sound-?
Wolf/ ~4hat did you say is $40? The utility cost?
Kubby/ Sewer and water.
Wolf/ The rates increased. We were dealing with a number somewhere
in the vicinity of $-25 and.then there has possibly been a rate
increase since then.
Nov/ Back on the'utility question. Are you planning a separate
meter on each of the mobile homes?
Wolf/ Yes.
Nov/ For water and sewer. What about'electricity?
Wolf/ Yes. That is a function-of the utility company. As I
understand it we were going to have two utility companies out
there. It might be Iowa City utility plus IIGE.
Nov/ Oh. You have differen~. electric meters on different mobile
homes.
Wolf/ Sounds to me like IIGE.is going to supply us gas for the
entire project and the electricity will be divided. One
portion will be serviced by I think.it is Iowa City Utilities
on the south and on the north end it will be IIGE.
Nov/ This is getting complicated.
Wolf/ Actually, once we get it set up it won't be that bad.
Horow/ Okay. Does anyone else have any other questions of Bob while
he is here? And you have signed the agreement.
Wolf/ ¥eah. I have a few comments I would like to make. I will try
to be brief. We don't want to talk about how much I am going
to help the golf Course over 'there. I thin~ we pretty.well
talked about the road to the soccer fields is not the primary
function of this project. The road issue. I thinkwe have kind
of covered the affordability. Do we-really need affordable
housing?And I think I have tried to demonstrate several times
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that there is a definite need for it. The state of Iowa
manufactured housing represents 22.6%. The one thing I would
like to point out is the fact that almost every employer,
large employer, in Iowa City is shozt of help and I feel that
Green View would go a'iong ways in starting to build a..labor
pool for this Iowa City area. I keep hearing about the way the
developer was selected. Did the City of Iowa City do the right
thing is.adverting and selecting a developer through its RFP
program? And I think the answer is yes; When I read the
newspapers it sounds to me like Iowa State University sold a
$14 million t.v. station through the same process. There has
been a great deal.of concern on both side~ for and against
about w~at these homes are going to look like. We have talked
several times about everything has to be above 1976 in the HUD
code standards. The Iowa City code enforcement is going to be
responsible for making these inspecti~ns and they have terms
like safe and sound condition, ~eather tight, insect proof,
maint~nance in good functional condition, clean and sanitary
conditions, and so on. I will skip part of this. I would like
to say that Green View, we have already got a plan in place.
We are ready to roll. Obviously we need at least 6 votes to
get this project started. One thing I did do, Mrs. Wolf and
myself, had-the oppor~unity to talk with Barbara Grohe,
Superintendent of schools, on the subject of how Green View
and the Wolf family could assist her.in reaching her ~oals for
the school district. It was primarily an infor~ational
session. We got some ideas from her and we gave her a few. We
have pretty much agreed to meet. again. I would like to say in
closing that we have t~ied to comply with all the wishes of
the council, the staff and also those who. are opposed to us
and if you would please, .I would like to have my 6 votes.
Thank you.
Horow/ Thank you,
the p.h. On
closed.
Bob. Anyone else wish to address council? Close
the resolution to annex the 80 acre tract- Not
Randy Moore/ 4322 Daniel Place. And there was a lot of discussion
last night that mostly centered around costs and kind of the
general location of the project and there ar~ a couple ~hings
that I would like clarified. I apologize for the drawn up map.
It is the same one I had.two weeks ago. The qu~stion of costs.
Karin-Franklin referenced a memo that was given to you folks
earlier this month kind of breaking down the costs and
contributions and in there my understandin? is that the ci~y's
contribution came out to around $1.4 millxon which my belief
is that that is $420,000 in flood moneys, $230 some to extend
the water, and the $800,000 and some for the road within the
80 acre park. I feel %here is two section~ of road that are
left out of that that need to be considered. One of those is
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the east west portion that is labeled at $410-And that refers
back to the CZA #10 whi'ch states that there has to be access
to the land to the east. And since it doesn't make sense to
cut through the middle of. the park and the anticipationis is
that the park will be degelop in three phases, it is not
likel~ that the road to. the east would happen at the south
edge. So that means that most likely the road-is going to
curve across either the northern part of the park or most
likely actually be that portion of the east west ~arkway'that
was referenced at the $410,000. So I think that has to be
considered as part of the.cost of the project. The other
section is the section in.red that I referenced last ~ime. The
i~itial portion that was discussed last night was about the
first half of the roadway within the park being done at a
collector grade which is a 31 foot wide street. This half-mfie
section of Sycamore which is in the county iS only a 24 foot
wide chip and sea1 road-.~hat is'rough rolling and'patched and
is in need of repair now and because of its narrow nature, 7
foot narrower than what -
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Either way~ this 770,000 for this part of the roadway I thi~
needs to be considered as part of the cost of this project
developing as Green View Mobile Home Park. Kind of where that
bring~ summary on this slide, doesn't fit well but, wh~t we're
looking at I believe ape the first three costs which is. the
1.4 with the Sycamore. which is currently the half mile in t~e
county, and the east-west portion brings up the costs up
front. The two million, six hundred'and some thousand. And as
was pointed out just a little while ago the subsidiz~d amount
is no longer 70 it is really in the bal~ park of 45, and
depending on.where, how you can factor in utilities, if you
take a subsidized pad at $154 and you add in around $40 for
utilities, that brings you up into the $195 ballpark. A person
would have the option. of. either getting a subsidized pad
within Green View and paying $195 or'the potential of going to
other parks that there may be some vacancies in and for that
s~me money'getting a lot that'includes utilities at least at
this point in time. You know granted with the increase in
water and utilities that may change ~ver time but it really
means that 45 is the maximum amount of subsidy and ~t may in
fact be less. So the contribution on the part of the developer
is minimized, so instead of being what was nearly a balanced
wash before now becomes a really significant difference ~s far
as what the city's contribution is and what the dePeloper's
concessions are. One other item that was discussed last night
that I was tryingto understand c6~pletely was a dlscuss~on on
essentially the extension of transit, city serviges, in the
form of bus route. And what I thodght I heard last night in
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fact I went back a couple of times and re-listened to what I
recorded, but it sai~ ,you know that the city took on the
obligation to extend services to Sycamore Farms and-because
this project which is right ne~t to it, there was no further
burden from that perspective. I guess.myquestion is if there
is no road between this trac% of land and this one.ex6ept what
is established through the City, and from this point to this
point following the yellow ~oute and then down Sycamore is
right at two miles and that's not counting any acces~ into the
park Or into the Sycamore Farms tract. And because 'there's
nothing in the seven year CIP that addresses any .extension to
the road or anything that woul~ bring it over to the Sycamore
Farms, it seems unlikely that any kind of a loop route that
would pass through Green View and also pass through-the
Sycamore Farms would be feasibleuntil significant time ih the
future, seven, ten, or whatever'years unless you specifically
address that and move that up in the time schedules. so I
guess I would feel that if you are in fact intending to
provide city services to this tract of land, that for the
foreseeable future the only-option is really a bus rout~ that
goes down, turns around and comes back. And that would seem a
lot less efficient than a one, a route that is in'fact a loop
with the'busses going from point A to point B anyway so making
a stop if there's people 6r not is not going out of th~ way or
adding to the cost of that trip.'
Horow/ Randy, your time's up.
Moore/
Horow/
Pardon?
Your time's up.
Moore/ Thank you..
Throg/ Randy, before you get down; I think, Karin correct me if I'm
wrong, but I think the east-arterial that goes.· through
Sycamore Farms does not appear in·the seven year CIP program
because the developer's. required to pay for construction of
that road. No. She's shaking her head no. Pardon me.
Marla Edwards/ My name's-
Horow/ Can. you wait?
Marla Edwards/'I was just going ~o give h£mmy five minutes.
Horow/ Oh, that's all right. When he's answering something. Thank
you for your-~ourtesy. He's answering a question. That's all
right..
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Marla Edwards/ He has my five minutes anyway.
Throg/ Can you correct my error Karin?
Franklin/ The portion of the ea.st-west parkway that'Randy's talking
about is not scheduled until 2002 or after. And it's just a
matter of working it into the tIP and priorities as they're
proposed to the council now. You can change that. In terms of
the complete construction of that eas~-west parkway from Sand
Road to Sioux Avenue, I have indicated to the counci~
previously and I have indicated to Mr. Bright of Sycamore
Farms that I can argue for that being a city CIP because it's
an arterial Street. We would expect dedication of land, but-it
would be a city project to build the street.
Horow/ And that section between the northern boundary of Green View
and-?
Franklin/ In Sycamore Farms.
Horow/ Right Sycamore Farms.. Is that the city's portion to be
developed or-Sycamore Farms portion?
Franklin/ I'm saying that ~ can s~e 'the entire arterial being the
city's responsibility now as we do with other projects, if a
developer wishes to go ahead before we're ~eady topicgram it
and have money for-it and they wa~.t to go ahead, then they
have to pay for it.
Kubby/ Will you clarify the issue? I.mean t understood that P/Z's,
I can't remember all the numbers of which conditiQns but I
think it's near the end so it[s nine or ten per road, there
minutes are a little bit different then what we've been
talking about. We were talking about a road on the very
northern portion of the Green View and on ~he very southern
portion. But I thought that P/Z's intent was something in the
middle so there was access for land on the east. I want that
clarified and Tom's here. Maybe he dould do it. So I want that
clarified and if there is a road in the middle of the tract,
who pays for that.
Franklin/ First of all the design of the manufactured housing park
is going- if-this goes forward- will go through P/Z Commission
and the city council. The commission was concerned about
access to the property to the east~ I think much of that
concerned in terms of the placement of the road related to the
location of the school site which is now in flux, that is the
location of the school site. What has been agreed to is that
there will he east-west access. Definitely there will be an
east-west road on the north boundary of Green View. There may
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be one through the park. There may be one and/or on the
southern boundary of the park. But that has n6t been resolved
at this point. The zoning agreement says that there's an
obligation to provide access, east-west. access, to the
property to the east. And I think the understanding. is that
that is in addition to. the road that goes along the north side
of Green View. As with any project or any subdivision' plat
that the city approves, we approve, we look at the layout of
the streets for the future and what it's going to.look like
and how'it's going to f~nction. When those streets are built,
we don't always have control over them unless we take it upon
ourselves to build them. They are built as development
progresses and as it's needed by theparticular property owner
that's building it unless there's'a 'public reason for us to
become involved and build it ourselves. So with this project
as with any project, we will have a layout that will
accommodate these concerns. Exactly when those will be built
in terms of access to various properties will depend upon need
and the progression of development.
Kubby/ Who would pay if ~here was 'a road?
Franklin/ If there's a road in the middle-
Kubby/ And one to the south. Who' pays.for each of those roads?
FranklinA The Wolfs. Those would be local streets.
Baker/ Karin,' when you talk. about guaranteeing access to the
property to the east, will you clarify for me and for-the
audience, what is that property to the east and how how is it
zoned?
Franklin/ The property to the east.is part of Sycamore Farms. It's
now zoned a combination of RM-12. there's ten acres in the
northwest corner of their property that's l%H-12. The remainder
is IDRM because the ProPerty does not have access to' public
streets right now. That's why the zoning of IDRM. The RM-12
reflects zoning that .they already had within the county.
Throg/ What does IDRM mean?.
Franklin/ IDR~ means Interim Development Residential Multifamily.
And that is an indicator that there is a deficient in terms of
infrastructure and that in the future it would develop as
multifamily. Immediately to the ~ast of that property is the
conservation easement of 190 acres.
Throg/ And in part that means there's no road' leading to it~ S.o
there's no.access to that.
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Franklin/ There at this time is just I think it's called Country
Lane which is a rock road. It is not sufficient r.o.~. for a
~ity street and not sufficient r.o.w. to provide access to
Sycamore from this property.
Horow/ But the road in the-.middle of the Green View' Park could
easily connect into that area at Rome point. Is that right?
Franklin/ Yes. But that- where that road is going. to be in terms 6f
access to the east other than the one on the north boundary of
Green View has not been settled upon yet. We will do that
through the design. prpcess if we get that far.
Horow/ Okay. Thank you.
Kubby/ How did you feel about the figures that Randy Moore put up
about the total of the ~treets over t~me, whetheF we did them
phased or whether we did them all up front~
Franklin/ Over time we will have all of those costs. I don't
believe it is fair to say that then ~ou would trigger all of
those costs to Green View in trying to come up with this
equation. I disagree..'
Kubby/ I guess it matters when you do them.
Franklin/ Absolutely. And what else is going on. I mean we'r~
talking about our growth area that the previous council
adopted. And that show~ that the City of Iowa City will
progress south until we hit our waste water treatment plant,
and that's about as far as we're going to go. So at some point
we will have these ~osts~ And it's a matter of when and how
you're going to proceed.
Baker/ And those costs will proceed whether or not Green'View is
there. It is just a matter of timing.
Franklin/ It is a matter of time. Any time and it will be higher.
Nov/ We also have to say that transit ~o this area is a matter of
time. It may be ten years before there are. enough people
living there.
Baker/ Could you speak to that.a little bit more?
Franklin/When-we talked ~bout Sycamore Farms in the annexation and
rezoning of sycamore Farms this issue'came up of would transit
be provided tot his area. At some point, yes. And the idea is
that in the long run ther~ ~ill be a street network that will
serve this area such that we can have a loop that includes
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Sycamore, the east west parkway and the a road from the east
west parkway north to Highway 6 through Sycamore Farms. There
also may be some connection through Whispering Prairie D~ive.
It depends on how the streets are laid out. We obviously are
not going to build the 'streets and extend the transit routes
prior to development of the area. Those kinds of services
proceed as the development happens and annexations and
rezonings do not result instantly. in a population in the area.
That will happen over time also. And we will proceed with that
as that happens.
Horow/ Any other questions? Anyone else'care to address council? Do
you wish to continue, Randy?
Randy Moore/ Just a couple of brief comments. I agree in part with
what Karen is saying. These are definitely costs that this
area is going to have.to incur at some point in time. But I
guess what I-my logic is if you are going to put a park in'you
have to provide services to that area and that is going to
· have to move many of those improvements ~p significantly in
the time schedule and .because this is essentially a skip in
what should be natural development progressing down from the
north, that injects or adds to that cost base and makes it
fully the responsibility of the city to pick up at this point
in time where it could be shared with other developers in the
course of a more natural progression. The other thing and 'I
understand the fringe area agreement between the county and
city is somewhat in review at this point. But the .existing
fringe area agreement'for Area 6 states that this is preferred
to stay as agricultural and it was one of-the last areas
slated for development .simply because the infrastructure was
not to the area and that seems consistent with the area. You
1ookdownthere and it is a corn field now. And speeding it up
and incurring all these other costs is simply a result of
putting in a development of any tl~pe whether it is a mobile
home park, standard residehtial or whatever. I feel thattract
of land has merit for future development. I just don't think
the timing is right on this one because it moves up all these
other expenses more quickly and part of the intent to provide
an area that is more affordable and some of that is providing
city services which I think is.also staged in either the
fringe agreement or the city's idea towards developing areas
for annexation is tha~ you have to be able to provide services
without incurring undue costs. And I am trying to look art his
very broad mindedly and taking into consideration that yes,.
once the roads are there, other development around it will
utilize this. So those costs will eventually get shared bask
over. But it keeps coming back to the same thing.'Too much,
too soon for a project that may be best put some place else.
Thanks.
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Horow/ Anyone.else care to address council?
Carol Marlow/ From Amber Lane and what I would like is a
clarification on something I read in this week~nd's Press
Citizen. The Press Citizen said that the city would chip in
about $1.5 million in funding to reserve 166 subsidized lots.
My question was on the meaning of the word reserve, length of
time and secondly, what happens ~f-Maybe that should be
answered first. If that'could be clarified at this moment.
Horow/ We have set aside a number of-~a~in, would you care togire
the specific nu~er of years and the discussion that we had
last night in terms of what happens if someone increases their
economic stature.
Frank~in/ The reservation of the pads is for a period of
approximately 15 years. It is 20,88Q months. The idea is that
these pads will be reserved for people that have an income 65%
of median income or less if'they are.renting'the'pads° There
will be 20 units that are rental chits that are provided and
those will be provided for people that have income Of 50% of
median income or less.
Marlow/ Then the question is suppose that this was'sold before the
15 years. Does that agreement carry on?
Franklin/ Yes.
Marlow/ Thanks, I appreciate that. And last, in' today's Press
Citizen, I noticed the article.about the c~r poolers and the
most honest sentenc~ which I appreciated attributed to
councilor Naomi Novick who .said, who gave her re~sons, and
then saidI have been-in that situation. Whatever the reasons,
whatever the discussion, money,.- transportation, access,
reservations, it is still an awful lot of one kind of'dwelling
in that area, southeast Iowa City. And I do wish that each of
you would remember this issue of concentration or equitable
distribution and if you would put yourselYes in the position.
This is 6ut of context but the message is still there. I have
been in that situation. I wish eaoho~ you would think what it
would be like if you lived in southeast Iowa City and this
proposal was anticipated, how yqu would feel i~ you were in
that Situation. Thank you.
Horow/ Thank you very much. Anyone els~ care to address council?
Steve Nasby/ 21 Jema 'Court. I also happen to have wor~ed on this
project a little bit.. Several weeks ago Randy stood here and
asked you'not to listen to misguided comments or false
statements. Is that correct and I think you just m~de a couple
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that I waht to correct. When he had his overhead on he was
showing that the subsidy was $45. That is on the onset on year
i and when you look at'it since. the market rate rent that Bob
had indicated is $20Q, you project that up about 3% a year and
fair market rate has been going up about 3% a year, that gaps
widens. So at year 15 it is at about $75 a month and that is
how we came up with the $1.2 Dr whatever and he had $900,000.
So that is the first point. The second point is that people
just pack up and move to 9nother mobile home park. A~ part of
another project we have one of our entrants call mobile home
parks in Iowa City that were not 10cated in the flood plain
and that were not closing. There was' less than 12 vacancies.
So, there really is not place that they could Just pick up and
move to. Those are just the two points'that I wanted to
clarify.
Horow/ Thank yo~.
Pigott/ Thanks, Steve.
RandyMoore/ If I might respond to both of those. It'is interesting
in that comparison all of a sudden time value of mgney'becomes
factored in when no other presentation of numbers that has
been taken into account. That is going to back to staff memos
on the cost of housing and the' affordability comparison that
was initially done between Sycamore parms and Green View. So
I understand what Ste. ve is saying but the bottom.line, you
know the subsidy. The'important issue here is the subsidized
portion that the renter would see is going to be $45 a month
of less regardless of what kind of inflation factor or
whatever you are going to put on to it. We don't know what
inflation.is going to be so all we can do is look at wh&t it
is now and to make a reasonable expectation as to-In the
future the differential will be roughly the same. Whether it
is $75 in the future due to inflation. That is at future
dollars which means rent.is not going to be $200. It is going
to be $280 or $300 or whatever the math works out to be. 8o I
think the only fair way to do that is to look at it in today's
dollars and what the contribution is and understand that that
right now is $45 and.~11 I am saying 'is it seems like it is an
awful lot of expense. on the.part of the city to Secure that
$45 a month per pad for 116 units.'No vacancies at the time of
the flooding, that is correct. But there is a significant fa6t
that is continually ignored and that t~ that there ~s 84 acres
of RFBH J~st annexed and rezoned in A~gust that represents at
least 450-500 or more units dependi~g on how it is developed.
That signiflcantly changes th~ availability factor and is also
a major contribution to the concern about how much of the RFBH
is in one area. I am not saying that that is good or bad but
let's ta~e a look at- Mayor HOrow., you had indicted before
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that it is p~obably a good t~ing to locate the housing.near
where the jobs are. Let's reverse that. Let's say I wanted to
work at Oakdale. The only place there is currently any
significant opportunity to get into a mobile home park. is in
the southeast area 9f Iowa City. So from the respect, you are
limiting the opportunity for those that want to work ~lsewhere
in the city but need to live in a mobile home park or would
prefer to. So I think that argument can work both ways and I
think the bottom line here is we just have to look at wh~% we
feel our pertinent and realistic costs rather than quibbling
about little differences and the fact that the fair market
rent isgoing to change over time is true but probably in the
long haul that peroentage,-that ratio is going to stay pretty
much the same and there are othe=. factors that are-probably
going'to be more significant such as the cost of getting to
and from work, access to city services, and all the other
issues that have been broughtup. S6 that is what I would like
to state.
Horow/ Does. anyone else care to address council that has not
already-? Sure.
Bob Wolf/ I am still Bob Wolf. We regularly serve the other pa~ks
in the community. At this particular time and Mark d~d this
for me in probably October or'NQvember. There are currently
three parks that have rents that are over $200 a month and one
park is'up at $240. And there is a lot of indication that the
other park owners are going to also raise. So when I talk
about a budget number of $200,' we will not know the final rent
until we get all of our costs in. It could be $210.'I really
doubt if it is going to'be $190.
Nov/ We can also say there is' plenty of manufactured housing in
North Liberty for those ~ho work at Oakdale~..
Horow/ Right. Is there anyone else who cares to address council on
this issue? Declare the p.~h. close~
Pigott/ Wait a second, Sue.
Baker/ You have-One more.
Lyle Seydel/ Good evening. It has bee~ a long time. Almost five
years since I have addressed the council and I am going to
speak to those who have the experience that listened to me
those five years and to those new members that have come on
since. The old story don't put it in my backyard is p~evalent
in this discussion. I have listened to it, I have read-it in
the newspaper. There is a need for low cost housing-in Iowa
city. This is a method of providing it. It is an immediate
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method of providing it. 1993 when we had this tremendous flood
I spoke with Karen many times becauSewe lost a house in the
flood. There were people who. needed a place to go and didn't
have it. Members of the council and the city staff jumped on
the band wagon and said'let's grab some of'that federal m6ney
and let's produce a city sponsored or at least backed~obile
home park. That is why we got to where we are now. The staff
have spend. countless thousands of dollars. Developers have
spent countless of thousands of dollars. designing this
project. Not this project but others. People who. are
interested in it. And I come at this point in time I read in
the newspaper where there are three council members who are
willing to vote it down. I can't understand you. You are the
people who brought the project 'to this point in time.
Specifically Karen who has preached for the lower income rent.
Let's give it to them. This project is here now. You are
waiting for the next proJect~'That pr6ject, what is it called,
the Steve Bright project. Whatever the name of it is.. That
has been on the drawing boards before I retired from the city.'
That was being talked about 6, 7, 8 years ago and there is not
one brick'laid, not one fence post put in down there. Here is
a project-you used subsidized housing probably within the
year. Let's go back to the 'many projects that we worked on.
Not a one of them did anyone ever step up and say let's do
that project. Let's do it. I carried the subsidized housing
program from zero ~o over 900 units and not one public p~rson
sat there said let's do it, let's get into it.-So ittakes a
little guts, a little chestiness, tough skin to say let's do
it. SO any. questions 6f me.
Kubby/ No but I would encourage you, .L¥1e, to stick around for the
vote so that you can hear why.people are going to choose to
behave certain ways.
Seydel/ I will.
Kubby/ Great..
Jane
MoOrs/ And I would Just-like'to respond to that. I know things
have changed~ Maybe a year ago when staff wanted suggestions
from council this was an excellent. But you Rid not choose the
location. You did not put it there. I mean you probably
wouldn't have chose to put 'it there because of the
concentration factor;'the infrastructure. So, I mean, what he
said may be true. At'one point in time you indicated this was
the route to go. It obviously is no longer the route'to go.
And like you said you have to be tough skin. You have to stick
withwhat you believe qt this pOint'in time no matter what you
said in the past. It is what you believe now. Thank you.
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Horow! Anyone else care to address council on this issue? Public
Hearing closed..
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Agenda
Iowa City City Council
Regular Council Meeting
Janua~ 31,1995
Page 9
n. Consider a resolution to annex an 80 acre tract of land, for a project
known as the Green View Manufactured Housing Park, located
southeast of Sycamore Street and east of the Pleasant Valley Golf
Course. {ANN94.0007)
'~ "/~'X"~Comment: See item m. above. · '
/~ '/~ ~ Action: ~ ~__~/~ ~~~~'~
,,
n///~3~' o. ~ubhc nearing on an ordinance amending the Zoning Chapter by
~4,~-/// changing the use regulations of an 80 acre tract of.land, for a project
~ known as the Green View Manufactured Housing Park, located
/~ southeast of Sycamore Street and (~ast of the Pleasant Valley Golf
Course from County RS, Suburban Residential, to RFBH, Factory Built
Housing Residential. (REZ94-0012)
Comment: At its December 1, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning
Commission, by a vote of 5-1, with Dierks voting no, recommended
approval of an application submitted by the City of Iowa City and Robert
and Erma Wolf to fez, he an approximate 80 acre parcel,'to be known
as Green View Manufactured Housing Park, located southeast of
Sycamore Street and east of Pleasant Valley Golf Course from County
RS to RFBH, subject to ten conditions. The Commission's recommenda-
tion is consistent with the staff recommendation in the staff report
dated September 1, 1994, and the list of conditions dated December 1,
1994. The public hearing is continued from the January 3 and January
17, 1995, City Council meetings. Public comments were received atthe
January 3 and January 17, 1995, meetings. Protest petitions represent-
ing owners of 20% of the property within 200 feet have been submit-
ted, and thus a three-fourths (six of seven members) vote of the Council
is required to approve this rezoning. .~_~_.~
Action:
Consider an ordinance amending the Zoning Chapter by changing the use
regulations of an 80 acre tract of land, for a project known as the Green
View Manufactured Housing Park, located southeast of Sycamore Street
and east of the Pleasant Valley Golf C~urse from County RS, Suburban
Residential, toRFBH, Factory Built Housing Residential. (REZ94-0012)
(First Consideration)
Comment: See item o. above.
Action:
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ITF, H NO. S n.
Consider a resolution to annex an 80 'acre
tract .of. land, -for a project known as the
Green View Manufactured Housing Park, located
southeast of Sycamore Street and east of the
Pleasant Valley Golf' Course. (ANN94-0007)
Horow/ Moved'by Baker,
seconded by Lehman. Discussion. .-
Throg/ Yeah, I would like to. bring up a few points. First I want to
briefly, very briefly, restate my reasons for opposing the
proposal as originally presented. And very briefly they are
that the connection with vacating the flood'plain the to west
oft he river and using flood relocation money to help buy this
particular of land. That linkage has . been weakened
considerably. over time; That is what Jane is referring to.
Secondly the issue of public services, particularly with
regard to transit service, fire protection, p01ice protection.
Seems to'me that we are going to be increasing 'the cost of
publid service at a time, particularly with regard to transit,
public fundings dissipating and going to be declining over
time. Now I know we talked about that at length and I want to
make a side point here. Last night I felt at that time a
testing of spirit towards my friend Larry Baker and I want him
to know.that it was just the moment. I apologize to you and I
kind of conveyed that to you. And the third point for me
opposing the original proposal has to do with the large amount
of ~ublic .subsidy. We have seen extension dis~ussion about
that right now, particularly with regard to the road. So,.a
series of reasons, all right. But Bob Wolf and Irma Wolf have
done a terrific job,' I think, of putting together a concept
here and I really admire and applaud their suggestion that
they made most recently about directing the subsidized units
towards households less than 65% of median family income and
to targeting 20 units for ?ental. I admire that tremendously.
And that, like I said last. night, has influenced me. I also
indicated, I tried to indicate last night that I could imagine
a circumstance under which I would go along with this project.
But the circumstance we haven't had a chance to discuss it
really now. Now 'I am not blaming anybody. It is probably my
~ault more than anybody else. But when I was running for
office I talked about the importance of building new
neighborhoods. My language was new neighborhoods that were
affordable and sustainable and I said it was a real important
part of that was creating a sense 6f neighborhoo~ around new
development and that would involve a neighborhood center. It
would provide a focal point for development of that larger
community. So, for me to support this proposal as presented,
given all the other stuff that I said wo~ld be radigally
inconsistent with what I ran on. So, what I am trying to
suggest i~ that if I felt that this proposal was being planned
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conscientiously as a coherent part of a new neighborhood in
that area south of town, if'that what was g~ing on, then I
would buy into the idea. I would say-Youknow the question is
how are we developing the area. Not whether we will develop it
or whether support this or whether we oppose that. So~ in
large part, the issue for me is needing time to kind of see if
there are any possibilities there for developing that area as
a coherent. neighborhood. If there is no time then it would
Just be morally, politically inconsistent of me to supportthe
project as presented..
Kubby/ You are talking about seeing the finalized version of the
plan in that area before you could support it.
Throg/ I mean I don't 'ha%e any problem whatsoever- with a
manufactured housing park being located there. but that park,
the internal design of the park for me has to be helping'build
a coherent neighborhood for that larger area around the L and
Sycamore. And there needs to be spme kind of focal point,
commercial and the like, somewhere near that L. I need to see
some sense that that whole area ~round the L. Draw a quarter
mile radius or half mile radius around that.L. I have to have
some sense that that area is going to. be developed coherently
as a neighborhood and I know what I mean. I know it.is tough
to talk about. Tough for you ali to follow. So last night, you
khow I mentioned this book, Visions For A New Am~rican Dream
recently ~ublished. It is full of examples of what I mean. So,
I don't know, maybe it is too late if it doesn't matter. But
for me it matters a lot and that is where t stand.
Horow/ I think we recognizm that it does matter a great deal for
you, Jim, and I appreciate the concept. And I really do. Where
I have problems with that is that we are faced with a 6/7 vote
right now. The ability to get the concept that you would like
to see and frankly that I probably could support is something
that evolves over time. It evolves with different land owner
that we have no control over right now. It evolves with time
passing. And we don't have control over some of the money.
That is a lose you lose situation. And the people.who'have
been waiting to get into affordable housing. They would
probably be 7-10 years older by the time we got around to even
having this total concept on paper that you would have to ru~
another time or two. And so for me, it saddens me that you are
not able to bend in your campaign promises and spirit of
theory that you wish to introduce in this city with good
reasons. You oan't bend and that di~tresses me.
Throg/'¥ou didn't hear part of what I just said though which was
that I am willing to-I have no reason to oppose a manufactured
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housing park as such down t~ere. The question is how does it
fit into the rest of development around the area'.
Horow/ We can't tell you that.
Nov/ I think this kind of issue can be addressed. I want to back
track for a minute though about six votes on this. We don't
need six votes to annex.
Horow/ Not on the annex, no.
Nov/ And assuming that we will be able to plan somehow to do this
kind of thing through the comp plan.. We can't say this area
will be multifamily and another area will ~e neighborhood
commercial or whatever. You can deal with those kinds of
issues after this is annexed. Understand me.
Throg/ I hear you.
Nov/ Thank you.
Throg/ But the next issue on the able is r~zoning and up until now
there has not been any instruction 9bout how else the area
around the L might be develop$d..S0-
Nov/ I think the word might' be is what we are ~eally hanging on
because might be is as far as we can go here. We cannot say
what somebody will be ~bing with the property. We can say we
would like it to devei6p this way and we can put it into the
comp plan.
Throg/ We can be a lot more proactive about this in terms of
guiding development and we cando it with various powers. that
are available to the city and we can do it by using a transfer
of development right scheme that Linda Woito is working on for
us right now because we ask her to. We can us~ it by enabling
us by using that traditional neighborhood part of. the
sensitive natural areas ordinance that that committee is
working on. How to act on it in the Short ru~, I don't know.
But I am Just telling you:where I stand because' it is
important.
Lehman/ Can't we still do that?
Nov/ We aren't arguing that'you have a legitimate stand there. But
I just don't think we are goin~ to settle it i~mediately.
Baker/ Sue, c6uld I ask- We talked last night about what happens if
the council disagrees with the P/Z Commission. Whether or not
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we should have a conference with them and I notice Tom is in
the audience and I am just wondering if he had any comments.
Horow! Mr. Scott.
Tom Scott/ (Can-'t hear).
Throg/ I think. the answer is no for right now.
Nov/ The annexation doesn't require that.
Baker/ Okay?
Horow/ Any other discussion about the annexation?
Kubby/ I am going to be opposing it but I will explain why during
the r~zoning.
Throg/ It might be helpful to be clear about what the procedure
would be if we annex and don't get the super majority for the
rezoning.
Horow/ Well, we can certainly go back-the prevailing side can go
back to the annex and decide ~o de-annex or we can leave it
annexed without any zoning.
Woito/ No. You can't annex without zoning. on the annexation and disapprove it.
Horow/.Can we annex it- The 'o~ly way to do it is get'a
let's say from the city for interi~ development.
Woito/' You would have to reset a hearing
ordinance or you would have to 'defer
annexation.
So you have to re-vote
p~oposal
for another zoning
the resolution for
Horow/ Okay.
Nov/
I am assuming we can annex and then defer the vote on the
ordinance to fezone as long -as we do it within.'the next-two
weeks or something like that.
Woito/ Yes, you can do that.
Horow/ Any other discussion. Roll call- Okay. Annexation carried,
4/3, Kubby, Throg, and Pig~tt voting'no.
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Public hearing on 'an ordinance amending the
Zoning Chapter by changing the use regulations
of an 80 acre tract of land, for a project
known as the Green View Manufactured Housing
Park, located southeast of Sycamore Street and
east of the Pleasant Valley Golf Course from
County RS, Suburban Residential, to RFBH,
Factory Built Housing Residential. (REZ94-
0012)
Horow/ Declare the p.h. open. I would ask you to sign your name,
state your name and limit your comments to five minutes. I
would"ask you to to repeat what has already been repeated or
commented so far.
Tom Scott/ I am Chairperso~ of the Iowa City P/Z Commission. If the
council turns this proposal down on a affirmative vote of 4/3
or even 5/2 it will be the wrong course of action. The 6 vote
majority is like defeating it on a technicality. It is not by
the usual majority rules. By that comment I mean nothing
sinister because the- code requires -it. You all don't. But I
likewise' doubt that the people who are opposed to this
particular resolution in front o~ them would.support the ~/5s
rule requirement on tax 19gislation at the federal level that
is being discussed. It seems to me whether it be a filibuster
in ~he U.S. Senate or a 60% req%lirement to pass bond issues,
it i~ an excuse and sometimes and abuse of participatory
democracy. My fear is that.the 6 vote reguirement is being
used to further individuals agendas. Not the city's and I use
that term collectively. Not the' city's agenda. Likewise~ you
will be doing a disservice to three segments of our commuDity
who are presently by and large out of the loop..By this
proposal you will get 116.standardized, excuse me, subsidized
lots or pads in the Green View Mobile Home Court with priority
going to those for flood relocation. You will get 20 Section
8 subsidized rental units and the remaining approximate 230
lots that will provide more affordable housing opportunities
for members of our community who are presently unable to
afford home ownership in Iowa City. The Commission has always
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responsibility to provide a broad cross section of housing
styles, densities and costs. I refer you to the comp plan
under Housing, page 39., which reads the housing goal of the
City of Iowa city is to meet the varied housing needs of its
citizens and to insure to the extent possible safe, healthy,
and affordable housing in. a pleasant environment. The
involvement of city government in housing usually takes two
forms: through the clty's regulatory powers and through
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programs which help people acquire or maintain housing. The
housing issues which are presented below may be addressed
through the city's ability to zone land, making housing
opportunities more or lessvaried through building housing and
subdivision standards affecting. he cost of housing, through
federal, state or local funding of housing assistance,
rehabilitation programs or housing for the .special
populations. And through private. and public partnerships to
assist first time home buyers and foster the provision of
adequate and affordable housing. The more affordable housing
and in all actuality the household income that we talked about
was a $17,000 to $30,000 range. That gap in this community is
not being met and if you rely on the market mechanism to do
so{ it will not be met. It wi%l only be through the
utilization of some sort of spbsldization, either direct
intervention by the city, reduction in the city's
requirements, lowering of density standards, etc..~ or the
subsidy of infrastructure costs which leads one into a
discussion of the projected road cost to the south wastewater
treatment plant and the soccer fields. The city's commitment
to "providing northerly access" to this area and the
understanding of both the council and the Board of
Supervisors. But it is illogical and wrong headed-to access
the entire.cost of this roadway to the Green View Proposal. if
as was asked last night, if this were a typical subdivision
out of sequence, who would have the responsibility. The answer
was the full cost would be assessed to the developer including
the oversizing. But if in fact this were a subdivision the
developer would place the roadway in the middle of 'the
development so as to take advantage of access to both sides of
the city imposed collector street, This is not the case in
this instance. And I might add Jim in your desire or wish to
have a neighborhood.' If in fact under the normal s~bdivision
proposal and we went through this with the arterial in
Sycamore Farm. If in fabt the collector went down through the
center of the proposed neighborhood park you would destroy the
ability to probably design ~he. type of neighborhood. that y6u
Would like or the neighborhood concept.
Horow/ Tom, you have got One m~nute.
Scott/ I also would tell you ~hat there is a possibility in the
RFBH zone that you can include dommunity commercial centers to
serve that particular subdivision. P/Z spent in access of
three months and ultimately made'an affirmative recommendation
subject to ten conditions. Many of those conditions dealt with
issues raised by the 9sighbors. I would ask you to go back and
read the minutes of the Commission dated 12/1/94, page 8;
paragraph 2, for a summary. Two ve~Tyquick final'comments. One
in reference to a comment that was made' at last night's
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informal council meeting. For over three months the Commission
spoke, talked about "more affordable housing" when discussing
the Green View proposal. And our minutes indicated this
differentiation between "affordable and more affordable
housing." There is a difference and I would hope that council
read and noted this over this three plus month period of time.
And finally, after my comments last evening I checked with the
Commission and majority of the Commission is willing to waive
the consultation phase with the city council. And my comment
in closing is not meant to be derogatory. But the Commission
~otdid feel that they wanted to waste their time in meeting
wit the council on this issue. Thank you.
Horow/ Thank you, Tom.
Throg/ I would like to ask you a couple of questions. First, does
your statement represent the point of view of the Commission
as a whole?
Scott/ I told them pretty much last night what I was going to say
because when I left this room I can only describe my demeanor
as upset. If we weren't on t.v. I would tell you what I really
felt.
Throg/ Maybe we should do that. Second question. I think I heard
you say that, I have forgotten what the noun is, this is,
"being used to further individual agendas, not the city's."
Who were you referring to?
Scott/ Jim, if in fact there are four votes to pass something in
the affirmative and we have all found ourselves in this
position. I, myself, many times on P/Z. If in fact there are
four votes to pass something, we sometimes swallow hard and
vote in favor of it. That doesn't mean that you don't
negotiate the best deal you can get and I compliment the
council for additional exactions from the developer. In this
particular regard the Commission did not get or did not
address. But none the less, as Susan indicated, the bottom
line is if there is a majority of those who are empowered or
elected or directed to make those decisions, my feeling is and
has always been that if I am on the outside then I Join on the
inside. That is a personal feeling.
Kubby/ So it doesn't answer the question. Who were you speaking
about and what agenda are you speaking about? I feel you make
that kind of public statement and if it is about me, I have no
problem you saying it in public now. I think you have a
responsibility to when you make a statement like that.
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Scott/ In direct reference to tha~ particular comment, Karen, your
particular concern that city money should not be used for
meeting housing needs for other than the lowest possible or
the extreme low income as. I think what you said in
conversations about where 'you thought city money should be
directed. That is not the overall policy of the city the
either the commission, and unless you all change, neither the
Commission nor council's directire at this particular junction
with the policies that the city has adopted. In specific
reference to Jim, it would be that you are unwilling to bend
when you have so much and are so close that for one issue and
that is that an inability to at least impose tonight that
neighborhood concept and defeating it.
Throg! I guess I do want to react to the unwilling to bend,
unwillingness to bend. I don't think that is true. I think
what I tried to say was if we had some time here and'some
ability to converse about how to develop that overall area of
which Green View wouldbe .a part then we might be able to come
up with a scheme that I could buy into and would'make me
willing to vote for the Green View Project° That is what I
said. So there is the time constraint, right, March i I think.
Okay..I don't mean to trivialize it. It is a time constra~n~.
But that is not a good way to make decisions when there is
controversy among the community. My~ense is you have got to
involve the public ih the conversation so that there is a
sense that they have a sense that what is being developed is
good for their neighborhood, good for their sense about how
they want that overall area to develop as well. I think it is
real important for time to take its course there for that to
happen.
scott/ But likewise you do have go have some trust in those that
the council has appointed to develop the final product that
comes to you all in the name of, in this particular case, in
the name of a proposal for a RFBH park.
Throg/ True and I have considerabl~ admiration from all of you on
the P/Z Commission. That is not the point for me. I would
agree with your statement there. but we hav~ a responsibility
as a council to, as you put it to Karen, to t~y to obtain
further exaction from the developer if we think they are in
the public interest of the city as a whole and that is what I
am trying to do. And I think others are trying to do it in
their own ways as well.
Scott/ The design of the subdivision or the design of the park
occurs after the annexation and rezoning. that would be the
only thing that I would answer there and that it is difficult
to design the park to include the neighborhood concept until
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after either annexation and rezoning are .voted in. the
positive..
Horow/ Thank you, Tom. Any other questions?
Jane Moore/ I would just like to say thank goodness we are not all
sheep. From what I understand of sheep everyone follows the
leader. If the leader J~mps over the cliff, everyone else
jumps-over the cliff and I am glad that we are able to make
our own decision and ~tand by that regardless of.what other
people around us are saying. Thank you.
Throg/ Can I react to that? Though I am sure Jane meant that in a
good way, I do not believe that anybody else on council is a
sheep or is acting in a.herded kind of way. So, I don't agree
with that at all, Jane.
Horow/ No, Jane. We know to whom you were directing it. Thank you
very much. Is there anyone else who would care to address
council?
Dean
Thornberry/ And i won't take up very much of your time. There
have been a lot of people displaced from the floods a year or
two ago. A lot of people are being displaced from their mobile
homes for other reasons, for the new grocery store. Karen, if
you want to do something for the disadvantaged, for the low
income people, how low do you want to go? We can't build a
tent city down there. We can't do-I mean a mobile home park is
a good place to start for people that are getting married,
that are working their way up. It is a good place to start. A
lot of us have been there. I started out as an hourly employee
at a burger joint and with some good luck and hard work and
saving the money and with a good wife I have gotten out and
have raised to a higher level. But where do you start? How
low? Do you have an answer for-that one.
Kubby/ I sure do. First of all, none of the people who currently
live in Towncrest will be able to move into this new park
because the deadline for people being out of the Towncrest
area is June 1, '95 and this will not be ready in time.
Secondly, people in Towncrest, the people'who are left will
not be able to-very few of them will he able to afford to live
in this mobile home park even with the subsidized pads. There
might be a few people who are currently renting in Towncrest
who if the timing was right could go into one of the rental
units and there might be two of those people. So, in terms of
having this park be'for Towncrest residents, that was one of
our hopes at the beginning of this whole process and I know
Naomi kind of disagrees with that but that is what we-part of
what spurred us to want to have this happen. That is this not
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going to happen now. That is just answering part of your
question. the other part is it makes a difference when there
is public moneys involved. Direct public moneys. Whether it
is-
Thornberry/ One minute. Is this four of my five minutes, Madam
Mayor?
Kubby/ No, do not count my answer. I guess I am not the one who can
say that but I assume that will be the comment. Now I have
lost my train of thought.
Thornberry/ I am sorry, Karen. You were talking about how we were
going to-
Kubby/ There are lots of priorities. When Tom says it' is Just that
I want to help the extremely and very low income residents
with housing issues.
Thornberry/ Karen, how are you going to do that?
Kubby/ Well, let me continue.
Thornberry/ You've got to give them a job.
Kubby/ There's a whole range of housing programs that we've done in
the past and that we hope to do. And through a citizen
process, a citizen commission, we have figured out a way of
labelling them low, medium, and high priority. I'm interested
in acting on our high priority items when there are public
moneys involved. And finding a way to meet out medium
priorities through zoning issues, through others kinds of
incentives and partnerships that don't involve largeamount of
public subsidy. And timing is all part of this subsidy with
the road discussion. That those roads are going to happen
anyway. But if we had a uniform pattern of development, the
city wouldn't be paying those costs. It would be paid forby
developers as that land came into the community. So, it is a
difference in emphasis. Not a difference and' it's my agenda
and I hope everybody on here'has an agenda. We have talked
about this before. It means you have goals in mind for the
community and I look at all of the goals of various kinds of
housing types. I tend, bacause of my perspective, to focus on
a section of them. People have known all along what my
perspective is and I have been elected and reelected and the
bottom line is I make a decision and I do what I think is
right whether you agree with me or disagree with me. And you
have power to do Something about that. You may have other
comments and I have some other things I want to say at a later
date as well.
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Thornberry/ Go ahead.
Kubby/ No, I prefer to wait until after the p.h.
Thornberry/ Karen, you have wanted city parks. That is not had. I
like city parks, too. You have wanted things that are good for
the city of Iowa City and I will give you that. But you have
got to give the people a place to live and-this I think you
are turning down and I think-
Kubby/ If you really want to get at that issue, talk tothe largest
five property o~rners that own property within the city limits
of Iowa City and land cost is your biggest factor in the cost
of housing. Talk to them about having control for the market.
Talk to them as well as talking with me about those issues.
Thornberry/ I am not going to stand here and argue with you but you
have go~ to understand that we are living in a democracy and
in a democracy prices are set notby individuals orby council
members or by any one person. And the price of property in
Iowa City is pretty expensive and when you build something on
a piece of property you have got to be able to get your money
back out of it. That is the American way, that is democracy
Karen. And that is making the property in Iowa City a little
more expensive and that is why I am saying if you can put an
area of housing that isn't right d.t. that the very very poor
that you are referring to can walk to the mall or wherever
they choose to walk. Putting it there is not the worse thing
in the world. It is going to give a lot of people a 91ace to
live that are looking for a place to live now. I firmly
believe that.
Horow/ Anybody else care to address council?
Baker/ Sue, can I ask a guestion first?
Horow/ Well, it is p.h. time.
Baker/ It is clarification about something that was just said.
Something that Karen Just said about the deadline for
Towncrest. I thought we were pursuing some sort of extension
for that. Whatever happened to that extension? Question.
Kubby/ I put the idea out but there was not direction to staff to
do that.
Baker/ I thought there was.
Horow/ No. We didn't have four people who wanted to do that.
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Baker/ Just ask Eagles what their schedule was.
Throg/ I support the idea.
Pigott/ We should.
Throg/ There is four votes right there for looking for an extension
from Eagles.
Kubby/ Then look at the people who are left and see who can
actually afford the- That is another issue.
Baker/ That is another issue. I just want to get the timing issue.
Kubby/ I would love to have that direction. I have been looking at
how to break open some possibilities for people. About time,
Larry, thank you very much.
Baker/ Always willing to catch up to you, Karen.
Jim Miller/ I am a member of the Sycamore Farms development group.
I would just like to address some of the very recent comments
here in regards to free market and free enterprise, and
some of the other I guess insinuations that were made and I am
representing the free market. I have been I the free market
for 25 years. I am planning. on going through with the
development of Sycamore Farms that may take another 25 years.
I think the comment that says that the city needs a cross
section of housing is what we ha~e lived by for the last'three
years and I am sympathetic to the costs that have been
involved with this particular request. I certainly haven't
heard anybody apologize for the costs that we have incurred in
the last three years looking for that cross section of housing
stimulated through the CHAS report, commented upon by many
members of the community who sat on that report and otherwise.
Our motivation was to meet a cross section of housing with
varied needs. The comment that says that the free market will
not work and the requirement for'subsidy is absolutely is
necessary I firmly totally do not agree with. that. If I did,
I would no~ be here. There is a development that is coming to
you. The character of that development or developers I should
say certainly has been the topio of conversation behind closed
doors in separate and distinct meetings. A lot of that has
come back to us. We have taken that the best that we could
have. What. I can tell you is that 500 rental pads are coming
to our community. What I can tell you is our target market are
people who make 60 to 80% of median income. Free market will
take care of that need. I am committed to it. I am so far into
it now that I can't back out of it. Those people are there.
They are'real. We are not questioning that one bit. Our free
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market will take care of that. We have been told through this
process that if you 'buy i~to affordable housing, you don't
have to pay attention to the comp plan. And that is a very
broad statement. And it goes in with the subsidy comments that
were talked about that. the city needs to get involved'to take
care of that $17,000 to $30,000 person. I am here to tell you
that that is an incorrect statement. If anybody can prove to
met hat it is a correct statement, please save me the time and
the expense of future work involved with Sycamore Farms..I
think that if the comp plan is not applied-I don't care if
this park comes or if this park goes. What I do care is that
development in our community is compact, contig~ous,
economical. If it is going to cost the tax payers money of
which I am one I think-that it needs to be justified. In my
mind this is totally unjustified. And I am here to tell you
that in a year, a year and a half, two years, ten years, as
these 500 rental pads that we are going to bring onto the
market fill, you can determine at that time that your 65%
median income target market is still there and still ~ooking
for a place to live. I hope that they are not. I hope that we
are taking care of that need. We have worked for over three
years to understand where that market is. That same three
years we have dedicated to accommodate that market. Give us a
chance. We have only been in the city since August. In 'two
weeks you will have a land planner from Detroit here with a
total full comprehensive view of what our Sycamore Farms
development is all about. People have said about us that we
are just out here trying to.economize on the zoning. We are
profiteering. I wish the people would come to me with those
comments rather than to hear those through the curtain,
through the back wall with whispers. I could go on and on
about the many many issues that you have looked at but in
closing I appreciate some of the people that sit on this
council to take the time to talk to the people, to understand
the issue, to look at the numbers, and to understand the
numbers and Just not buy off on somebody else's opinion. To
get involved and to understand it and in your heart vote for
it or vote against it. And I appreciate those people. Thank
you.
Horow/ Thank you, Mr. Miller. Anyone else care to address council?
Lyle Seydel/ Do you want me to sign in again?
Horow/ No, you don't need to but you have to say-something
different than what you said last time.
Pigott/ I don't remember your last name.
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Seydel/ Seydel. To have a neighborhood you must have neighbors.
This will-provide a group, a large group of .neighbors.
Sycamore Farms, just to the east of this is going to be
another group of neighbors. the city is going to develop
whether you like it or not. It is going to develop and it will
probably develop to the south and to the east because that is
the way the land laysl That is all I have to say. Thank you.
Horow/ Anyone else care to address council on this?
Karr/ Could w~ have a motion to accept correspondence.
Horow/ Moved by Pigott, seconded byKubby to accept correspondence.
A~y discussion. All those in favor signify by saying aye
(ayes).
Randy Moore/ Obviously there is a lot of strong feelings across the
full spectrum on this. From my perspective I just want to
state for the record ~y opposition to this is not from a
neighbors perspective. It is', in fact, from a citizen of the
community perspective. The difficulty I have with this
particular proposal is that I feel that there are a higher
than acceptable amount of costs and factors involved that make
it less than desirable solution for the goal. I don't think
anyone has any disagreement with the goal of providing
affordable housing. There are good solutions. There are bad
solutions. This one is somewhere in between and I think what
we are trying to do here tonight is to review the merits of
this specific solution against the context of what you the
council and we the city think'we are suppose to be proPiding
for the best interests of the city on the whole. And there are
defin~tely different viewpoints. And I think when you get down
to the bottom issues you are going. to have disagreement and I
think that is good. I think this council should not have 7/0
votes the majority of the time. I think the council should
represent that cross section of the community. And in doing so
there is going to be many different view and groups
represented. So I think it is a good thing when there is
discussion it is not quick, there is a lot of things that have
to be listened to openly, considered carefully and in the
final end, you have to vote within your scope or your
comprehensions of what y~u feel is the most appropriate to
meet the ends of the greater good and that is going to be
different for everyone of you as it is different for everyone
of us. I think, for me, the bottom line on this particular
proposal is many of the points that are made are well taken as
far as developing community. This boils down to your picking
an isolated tract of land that is in an area that was
designated by the city and the council to be reserved for farm
land with the area being developed.last relative to the other
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areas around the city and in choosing to go forward with this
proposal you are going in contradiction to all of those
previously established goals and I know there was a lot of
thought and effort that went into setting up those policies
and those guidelines and it just seems that there are just so
many inconsistencies that that to me raises a flag that says
there is something or a lot of somethings that just have a
hard time addingup on this proposal and for that reason, not
that I am anti-Iowa City, not that I am anti-trailer parks,
not that I am anti-affordable housing because I am not. I am
not any of those things. But if we are going to do something,
I personally feel we need to do it with a conscientious mind
that we make sure that we spend the money in the most cost
effective way possible. Get the best return because we are in
a finite financial situation. And the city cannot afford to
spend more on a solution than the solution merits. And my
personal feeling is that in this case this solution is too
expensive for what the community is going to get back out of
it.
Horow/ Randy, I have appreciated yours and your wife's involvement
in all of this. I feel that you being in the county have taken
part in the deliberations within the fringe area agreement. I
want to make sure that you realize that. When you are in that
area outside the city, what you have to say about this is just
as important as those people who are in the city. So I have
appreciated your input.
Randy Moore/ We always have felt that we are part of the community.
Even though because of where the boundary is drawn right now
doesn't negate the fact that everything we do revolves around
Iowa City. So we feel very much that we are a ~art of the
community. That is the motivation for me at least why I am
this involved on this particular issue. Because I see the city
catching up with us and we becoming a formal member of the
community, right now, honorary or however you want to phrase
it. We are-
Nov/ (Can't hear) if you feel like being annexed.
Horow/ If you want to be annexed we will take your money.
Moore/ Depending on how this goes, it will get there and I think
the bottom line is, as I said before, the timing on this. I
have no doubt that we will become official member on the tax
rolls and it is just a matter of when it will happen.
Horow/ We will take it. Thanks. Anyone else care to address-?
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Larry Schnittjer/ MMS Consultants. I hadn't intended to speak
tonight but something that 'Randy said kind of tripped my
trigger and I thought well, maybe I had better. I have
listened to this discussion on both sides for about as long as
we have been playing on this thing and it has been too long as
far as I have been concerned. The issues that we are looking
at here-We have people that are concerned about having this
type of development next to them. We have prejudices. We have
concerns for schools. We have concerns for safety, traffic,
property values. You 'name it, we have all heard them all. I
don't care where you put this project. You are going. to hear
the same things. And I worked with Bob looking for sites and
we looked in a lot of locations. The other sites that we
looked at were extremely difficult topography, limited or no
utilities available, limited or'no Vehicular access available,
or not for sale for manufactured housing. I don't know every
piece of ground in this town but I am pretty familiar wit~ it.
The original RFP also recognized these issues because it
stated that the city would extend sewer and provide access.
Some of Karen's last comments were that if this'land develops
progressively the developers will provide the streets. Not in
the case with arterial streets. The city provides them.
Kubby/ I don't think that that is true. We can make a decision-we
can make a case either way is what Karin Franklin said
tonight. When land is annexed and that is different than when
land is currently in the city. The land I am talking about is
land that wouldn't annex and that is a very important
distinction when you are talking costs.
SchnittJer/ The city's current process for improving arterial
streets is that the city picks up the cost and there is very
little, if anything, that is assessed. Rohret Road is an
example, Melrose is another example. I don't think there is
going to be very much assessment on either one of those roads.
Kubby/ I am not thinking about those types of roads.
SchnittJer/ This is a similar type situation.
Throg/ An annexation is involved.
Kubby/ It is not.
SohnittJer/ It is not in that we are going through an annexation
process, I will agree.
Kubby/ We changed our comp plan specifically to say that when land
is annexed into the city the full cost of development,
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including the road, oversized and everything, are pai~ by the
developers. We did that recently.
SchnittJer/ Okay.
Kubby/ The last couple of years. I guess that is not-
Schnittjer/ In regard to Jim's comments, I understand Where he is
coming from. The thing I'am concerned about is if we kill a
project before we have a chance to negotiate it we don't get
anything. We can possibly negotiate some of the things that we
want. We have got multi-family zoning to the east of this
project that can be ihcorporated with it. You can develop some
sort of community center on that area, whether it be a small
commercia~ facility or a little green spot or a large green
spot or whatever. I think there is potential. But if we kill
it there is not chance. The P/Z Commission and maybe even
council will have a ~hance to review this project and
additional projects as they come along in this area.
Kubby/ It is interesting that ~hen we were working on Sycamore
Far~s for so long, things that normally are done after
annexation and rezoning were worked on before then because we
wanted to see the complete picture. And that is why when Lyle
was saying. Sycamore Farms was talked about for so long is
because P/Z took the time to look at all of the issues before
we annexed and rezoned so we knew'what the whole deal was
before we said yes so that we could maintain some negotiating
power through the annexation and rezoning process. Put one
set of developers in the same area of town through that
process which I think was a good one and it ~as difficult for
P/Z. Well, you can come up and respond but some of the things
like the conservation easement that took a lot of time to'come
up with was something that could have been .done .after the
rezoning and we said we want to know what the details of that
conservation zone ~re or have control over that on the front
side of negotiating instead of the back side.
Horow/ There is a difference in terms of the time and use of the
money. That is one variable we didn't have in that .other
situation.
SchntttJer/ I guess my final comment here I don!t think that your
vote tonight is on'whether Or not-you are going to have a
mobile home park. You are voting on whether or not you want
this project and whether or not the city has requested the
staff propose this project. Because if you turn it down then
it won't be a project is my understanding of the situation.
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Horow/ Thank you, .Larry. All right. We have to move on. Are there
any other people who would like to address council.
Pamela Read/ 4295 Sycamore. I would like to respond to some of the
comments that have been made here. It is specific to the
gentleman who spoke before me has saidthat this project would
be unpopular in any neighborhood you put it in. Then why are
we doing it. If it is going to be unpopular anywhere, maybe
there is something wrong with it. Maybe it is not. needed.
There was also a comment that the market will not take care of
the $17,000 to $30,000 person. I don't hear that though from
other people. There is Sycamore Farms. There is Sycamore Farms
with Calvin Lakes which you just seemed inclined to reject.
There is also Mr. Wolf's co~ments several weeks ago that he
would be willing to do this project on his own. He is part of
the private economy. I also have a problem with quoting for
the C~AS report to justify' this project. There is aisc I
believe a spot in the C~S report that says that future
development should be contiguous. The zoning. should be
contiguous. This piece of zoning is not contiguous to anything
around it. There is n6t RFBH anywhere around this. Nor are
there any plans for there to be RFBH around this. This is not
contiguous and this does not conform with part of the C~AS
report. There is also a comment about the 6 vote rule and I
think the reason that there is a 6 vote rule is because it
takes into account the desires of the community that is being
affected by this resolution. The community is not One or two
individuals. There. is a lot of community opposition to this
and again, if it does work in this community, then it is not
going to work in any other community. Why should we do it. Why
should we spend city money to subsidize this type of housing
when 1-it doesn't-we don't have to subsidize this type of
housing, I don't think. The market is taking care oft his type
of housing needs and also, there is no payback. There is no
payback on-investing in mobile homes is not the same as
investing in a house. You have no equity. I think'that was it.
Thank you very much.
Woito/ Susan, I think people need to be aware that there is state
law and there is U.S. S~preme Court decisions that indicate
that you cannot discriminate against mobile homes and I would
just remind you of that and I would remind the people in the
audience that.
Horow/ Right. Thank you, Linda. Anyone else care to address councll
on this? Declare the p.h. closed.
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ITEM NO. 6 p.
Consider an ordinance amending the Zoning
Chapter by changing the use regulations of an
80 acre tract of land, for a project known as
the Green View Manufactured Housing Park,
located southeast of Sycamore Street and east
of the Pleasant Valley Golf Course from County
RS, Suburban Residential, to RFBH, Factory
Built Housing Residential. (REZ94-0012)
(First Consideration)'
Horow/ Moved by Nov, seconded byBaker. Discussion.
Nov/ Larry, do you want to start?
Baker/ I am still collecting my thoughts. But I do have'aquestion.
It is sort of a general question. Four of us are inclined to
support this. Some specific objections have been raised by a
couple of council members. I am just wondering if the~e is
anything that council opponents of this project could ask of
us that we could do tonight to make it a-more acceptable
project. And we can't satisfy, Jiat, your desire tonight. but
in terms of for example infrastructure cost or any'other
specific issue that would make any council member feel better
about this project that the four of us can deal with.
Kubby/ Part of it is where the land is. The other part for me is
the cost of the housing. AndBob has said he doesn't want to
have a different kind of mobile home park. He Wants it to look
like Modern Manor and having a $5,000 to $10,000 to'$15,000
trailer being the majority is not what he is interested in
doing. Therefore I think those two things are irreconcilable.
Baker/ Bruno, you have expressed a concern, I think, about a
particular issue of infrastructure cost. Is there anything we
can do to ameliorate that concern?
Pigott/ Well, the concerns I have regarding infrastructure costs
are specifically in regard 'to the road and we have talked
about phasing in the road. The city is still employing the
front of the infrastructure costs in making the road. That is
a large concern of mine. Part of the problem is the location
of the park. If it were in a differe~t location perhaps-Larry
has mentioned how difficult it is to find a different
location. But the infrastructure costs and a different
location might make it more palpable because you might not
concur the costs of. building a road down to a different
location, perhaps.
Baker/ We are going to build a road down to the soccer fields. We
all agree to that.
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Pigott/ The question is to what extent do we pay for any road that
goes there.
Kubby/ The square footage cost is significantly lower for what we
are calling a park road versus a full city standard road and
maybe Karin, would you just say what the two costs per foot
are for the different kinds of roads.
Baker/.It is $3.17 versus $40 I think.
Kubby/ So that translates into big bucks difference.
Baker/ I am just wondering if four members of th~s council are
willing to approve this project with Just the park road. I am
assuming that is what we are going to settle with the county
on. With Just the park road access, would that ameliorate your
infrastructure concerns.
Nov/ Interesting idea.
Horow/ That is a good one.
Nov/ We would 'have built that road whether or not there were a
mobile home park.
Baker/ The park road at a minimum will be built regardless of this
project. If we didn't improve that in a sense you have negated
all the infrastructure costs associated with this project. so
if we Just had the park road as is'as the access and we have
go long term plans for improving roads down there and just
phase them in over the long time, is that sufficient to erase
that objection.
Pigott/ I think it is not'sufficient because the location still
requires us %o build down there and that is one of the
infrastructure. So the location is a part of that
infrastructure problem. But a location further north would be
easier. It would require less.
Kubby/ It relieves my infrastructure cost part of the concern that
I have, yes.
Baker/ But located up north or not, it iS the same road, the same
land. So the location doesn't affect the road costs.
Pigott/ It does. If it is in a different part of town it could
possibly.
Baker/ We still have to build the road. We still have to build this
road up to standards.
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Pigott/ Indeed, right. What I am saying is if you put it in a
different part of town you alleviate two concerns. One of
which is concentration and the other is just the
infrastructure costs.
Baker/ Okay, this is important because I really am trying to
understand and to be able to respond to the real objections
and I assume that your objection is infrastructure cost but
now it iS location and that-is something that I can respond
to. If infrastructure alone is not going to resolve this, it
is a moot point.
Kubby/ I think it would be a way that would be the only concern to
make things happen. But at the same time, it is a dangerous
precedent in that we don't even allow-We allow some private
streets of more narrow than our standards but not public
streets from private' developers.
Baker/ It is, as in most of this entire issue, a question of what
you are willing to trade off to get a project done.
Kubby/ If that were the only issue I would ju/np at it. If the~e
were a majority to do that. I would be very interesting.
Baker/ I mean we can eliminate the infrastructure cost as an issue.
And then we have to deal with the other ones and that is what
we have to talk about. Okay, I just want to get that clear.
That is all I
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Throg/ I thought Naomi wanted to say something.
Nov/ Well, I will say something but you can go ahead.
Baker/ I am sorry. We are all waiting for somebody else to talk.
Throg/ I just want to reiterate that I have no desire to quote kill
the project. I don't remember who used that-verb. I heard it
anyhow. But, if there was some way for us to extehd the time
deadline for this so that we have three months, let's say, to
try to generate some visi6n for developing that area-and. some
sense in hpw that vision could be accomplished and how Green
View would fit into that vision. I would be happy to support
that as a motion to defer. But with those kinds of
instructions. Absent that I-
Horow/ But given if we were able to
undertaking would be needed to
almost be spinning our wheels.
even do that the enormous
satisfy might be we'would
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Pigott/ Would it?
Horow/ We don't have the land. The land is not available. Some of
which he is talking about. In other words north of the L that
goes out to the river. The only area that we have already
controlled through zoning is to the east. Jim, I almost feel
that if we got that far and worked on that, you would come up
with something else.
Throg/ Did we just vote on the Near South Side Plan after several
months of reconsideration about what we were trying to do?
Horow/. Months, years.
Throg/ I am sorry. It took less than a year. It took approximately
nine months andwhat happened was three people on the council
wanted to do something that the staff originally proposed.
Three people wanted to do something different and we, over a
period to time, managed to come to a compromise agreement that
all of us were willing to vote for. All right. And that was
because we were willing to give time, give people and us time,
to try to work out an agreement-an idea that we could all live
with. And it worked. So you now have the Near South Side Plan
adopted.
Lehman/ Jim, in all fairness, I think we had seven votes for that
the night that you presented it for the Far South Side. Not
for the first one but the second one I thinkwe all agreed on.
I don't know. We are kind of going in circles. I don't see us
really going anywhere.
Horow/ Right. I don't either.
Lehman/ I don't think there is such a thing as a perfect plan. And
I think that sometimes you have t6 take the best of what you
can get. This plan obviously has minuses and some of them, I
think, are really big minuses. But I think the pluses are such
that I am going to have to support it. The staff did what we
asked them to do. I think they were very fortunate in coming
up with a developer who has proven his ability. Modern Manor
is certainly a monument to what he is able to do. I think it
addresses what we say that we want to do, provide affordable
housing. It does something else that we don't have at.this
point. We don't have stock for manufactured homes. That was
one of the emphasis to start with. We are not doing thatl Then
I think the other thing to me and this is strictly my own
feeling. To me there is a matter of credibility here.
Credibility with the developer, credibility with the public,
credibility with the city staff. When things had been done in
accordance with wh~t they perceived us of asking them to do
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and then we come down to the 11th hour and say that this is
really not acceptable. I thinkwe lose credibility. But I will
support it.
Nov/
I have to say a little bit more about infrastructure now that
we have almost exhausted it. I talked about roads and we were
all committed to putting in a road because of the 's6ccer
fields. Because we have annexed a wastewater treatment plant
site which includes a park which includes a soccer fields, not
because of annexing 80 acres where there is a mobile home
park. So attributing this cost to this particular project is
a little bit confusing. Also when this area was particularly
zoned for. agriculture it was due to the fact that we could not
provide water and sewer and that was the infrastructure that
delayed this. because we are not going to put in water lines
and sewer lines anywa~ and because we have annexed the
wastewater treatment p%ant, it makes great sense to put a
project like this with city services. It does not make sense
to put it in at county standards and put in a septic field
next to the wastewater treatment plant. I really want us to
hang on to this infrastruc~ure idea and use it.
Kubby/ I think I want to speak before Larry does because if the
question is called there won't be a majority.
Baker/ Why would the question be called?
Kubby/ Because this is a long discussion and it has happened
before.
Baker/ I haven't said much before and I don't know what to say-I
don't know what to respond to because part of my problem is
the parameters of the opposition'seems to shift and I am
trying to get clear in my mind exactly what 'it is I am
responding to.
Kubby/ Let me go forward. I want to move on from that.
Horow/ Do you want your pointer?
Throg/ Is it the laser pointer?
Pigott/ It is indeed.
Kubby/ I would have had a colorful map to make my point more clear
to people sitting across the room but I had thought last'night
we had decided to defer it and I had to run around a. bunch
this afternoon so I thought well, we are going to defer it, I
am not going to carry my map around in case we won't defer.
That didn't happen. So we have a map that is not colored.. But
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what I want to do is I have five different points I'want to
make that might answer some of Larry's questions'and I don't
feel like I have been inconsistent in the comments that I have
been making since this issue did finally come back to council.
And the first one I want to talk about is concentration and
I know that can be defined in very many different ways. First
I want to have people look at just where the built up area of
the city is. And then look at this area south of Highway 6 and
east of the river. So we are talklng about the southeast
quadrant. Not much of that quadrant is built up. It is quickly
becoming built up but it is not built up yet. Within this area
we have Bon Aire, we have RFBH here that was in August put
into the city. It is undeveloped as of now. We have near this
point Thatcher and Baculis. Near this point we have got
Sunrise, Modern Manor and we have got Breckenridge which is
down here. I am not exactly sure where the lines are. It used
to be called Meadow Brook. So I looked at where the RFBH is.
I need to point out the other RFBH's up here to the north and
here the only other sites'in the city. Then I started looking
at what are the city initiated projects or things that the
city has contributed money to for what we call affordable
housing and there is a broad range of definitions for that. I
can't remember when we did Villa Gardens. But it is south of
Highway 6 and east of the river. We put block grant monies
into that project and at that time we talked about this issue
of concentration. We were all very concerned-are we concen-
trating lower income citizens in one area of the town. And we
are hesitant to go froward with the project. That we said this
is a high priority project because it is brand new rental
units that can be used with our Section 8 subsidized housing
program.. Those issues ' out weight the concern about
concentration. So then we did Sycamore View which is close to
this .area. Near Southeast. it is right here across from
Southeast. Where we did some owner occupied units. That. was
city initiated. City moneys from some reserve fund. We talked
about the concentration issues a little bit then. Then we
looked at using some federal moneys to build 33 units ?f
affordable housing. We chore to do it in this area in
Whispering Meadows. 33 units there. We talked abou~ the
concentratioh issue and said the need for doing this' is
important, more important than the concentration issue. So
then I went what are the other people doing. in town for
affordable housing. We have got HACAP with 8 transitional
housing units, two. of them or 25% of south of Highway 6 and
east of the river. We have got the Greater Iowa City Housing
Fellowship who has 18 units. Ten of them or 65% of them are
south of Highway 6 and east of the river. Then we have the
city's public housing stock. We have 82 units, 29 of them or
35% of them are south of Highway 6 and east of the river. So
in March when council had a meeting about this we brought up
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again this concentration issue and that is where it kind of
ended for us at that time. I went back and listened to the
tape and took notes when I re-listened to the tape and
everyone agreed that it was an issue. And then we were'just
resigned to the fact that the only place we could afford to do
affordable housing is in the southeast area Of town because
that is where the land costs are lower. And there wasn't
further discussion. So, I guess the question I ask myself is
when are we going to start talking and acting 'upon that
concentration issue. This is one, two-the third city housing
thing that we have done in the last couple of years and plus
the federal government programs that we have initiated and
gone forward with and the two non-profits. And sowhen I. look
at the C~AS report that says one of the high priorities there
is scattered site ho~sing, I want to try to live out that
value. And we haven't been lately. We have said that the other
needs are more important and I guess I want to say when are we
going to start on that prio=ity. I amgoing to leave the laser
thing now. And I have a few other points I want to make unless
other people want to respond to that. So then I move on to
okay are there things that alleviate this concentration issue
to much that I am willing to say okay, we will do one more in
this area of town. I 'look at our documents that help guide us
on our decision making, the CHAS and City Steps which we are
voting on part of it tonight. Already mentioned the scattered
site issue in the CHAS. The city steps outlines as high
priority, low priority,. and medium priority for certain
issues. For owner occupied units, 'the high priority are
households living at 50% of the median income or lower and for
rental units 30% of median income or lower. Incomes that are
in between 80 and 50 for'owner occupied and 80 and 30 for
rental are considered medium priority. So when we get back to
this talk about the market and personal agendas; it is a
matter of where you choose to put your emphasis. And the
bottom line for me is that we seen recently that the market
can take care of this medium priority. And even though we
don't do this with the city money so there are subsidized
pads, my belief is that.the people I want to invest city
moneys in with or for cannot afford to live in here possibly
even with the subsidized pad. And so we would be going to our
mediumpriority which can be taken care of throughthe private
market. And Bob has said as soon as he develops a pad at
Modern Manor it is filled up and I believe that that would
happen in another park that Bob Wolf does. We have seen that
in the zoning of Sycamore Farms. I have never voted for an
annexation since I have been on council for six years and. I
don't like the idea of bringing more land int9 the city until
we have developed more of the land that is already in the city
limits. But I bend my rules for myself of how I conduct myself
as a policy maker because things out weight those rules and in
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that case that developer gave up half of their land and was
going to have a variety of housing in the whole area were
enough and it was meeting the medium priority and so those
were enough benefit to the city that I broke my self imposed
rule about annexation because you have to look at each case
oneby one. So where I want to put my emphasis for city money
is for the high priority populations as cited in formerly CHAS
and now City Steps. I want to shift my conversation a little
bit to the timing of' our discussions and the issue of
credibility and a council member said to me after I had
thanked staff for all the time they put into this that how can
I say that and then vote against it because staff had put so
much time into it. I really thought about that. The amount of
time that staff puts into something is important. But it is
also not the major thing I should base my policy de¢i~ions
upon. There are many many factors I need to look at. I kepted
reading P/Z minutes and seeing the answer to the question of
what is this park going to look like be-the answer to that
question was it is going to look like Modern Manor. And
council hadn't-you know, we talked about we want a place for
people livin~ in the flood plain to move into. The mobile home
parks that people living in the flood plain are in do not look
like Modern Manor.'So, my vis_ion of what we were doing was
different than other people's. We hadn't talked about it. And
it is not a fault in my vision or a fault in anybody else's
assumptions about what we were planning. It is that we didn't
talk about it. So I have called Karin Franklin and said this
is getting so far and I am not comfortable with saying it is
going to look like Modern Manor. So when are we going to talk
about what our vision for the park is. ;tnd we didn't talk
about that until December 19. So what the lesson here is for
me is that when we are going to spend a lot of staff time that
we need to be on some parallel tracks. P/Z, their job is not
to deal with the affordability issue per se. Their job is to
look at land use issues and I am glad they are there. they put
in tons of time. But the lesson for me is that we should have
been on board as a group earlier in the pro6ess and so I hope
we can learn. I have certainly learned that lesson. 'In terms
of credibility that the 6ity can't be a good partner. with a
private entity. We are in partnershi~ with private entities
all of the time. Everyday. From P/ Z issues to other housing
projects that we have been successful at. Through block grant
programs. Through working with the landlords for the Section
8 housing programs. So I think for one example. that didn't go
the way the developer wanted it to, to say that we have lost
credibility I don't think is fair to. all of the work that city
staff and council does on a routine basis. A~d the last issue
has been a little harder forme. And that is this issue of this
is going to happen, it is going to happen in the county and it
is going to be your fault if you vote no. If you one of those
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people voting no. Well first I don't think it is my fault. But
secondly, if we were to be kepted hostage by if we don't do it
in the city because it is going to happen in the county with
fewer rules with it then why. don't we just annex the whole
damn county so it can be in the city and do it right. I am
serious.
Horow/ Where would you get the money?
Kubby/ It doesn't cost anything to annex. I am Just making a point.
Making an extreme example. But if I was held hostage to. that
all of the time I could become paralyzed with anything that we
deal with in the fringe area and I won't allow myself that. I
can't control what happens in the county. I hope that if they
choose to do this that they look at some of. those issues that
we have looked at and I will be there to ask them to look at
those issues. And I think Bob is interested in having some of
these things stay in his park. I hope he does. So then'the
last point I guess I want to make is about so what else do you
do with this flood money. What are the people living in the
flood plain do now and
· it is a legitimate question. If we
could do this in a different place and have it be targeted
towards the high priority people as outlined in City Steps I
would be willing to pay big bucks for infrastructure costs
because the private market is not providing that kind of
housing. And for me that comes to my whole philosophy of what
local government is about. And that is let the private market
do what it does. Government intervention is for whe~ the
private market isn't taking care of certain sections of our
society and that is when we should intervene and be a player
in this game of housing. So I have some suggestions on what to
do with the flood money. I am interested in a down payment
assistance program. I am inte~ested in a rental ~eposit
program that will help create scattered site affordable
housing for people. And I know that at first this seems like
a problem with the date of August 1, 1995, which is-the date
by which we have to have this money encumbered..We have
examples in our community Of those two programs so I guess it
is really a question versus a statement to staff and I don't
necessarily need this answer tonight. Do the moneys have to be
encumbered to specific households or can we encumber that
money to a program that will allocate moneys to specific
households. We are not allocating money to specific households
with the Wolf project so that is a question. I would like to
go that route° We also go a list last night of possible storm
sewer projects to alleviate affects of flooding in different
kinds of neighborhoods that are scattered across the
community. And I haven't really given serious attention to
that. It was Just given to us last night. So I guess that has
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become part of the possibility of how to use this flood money.
And with that I will be quiet.
Horow/ Thank you. Bruno, have you already completed your- I would
like to finish this off.
Throg/ I don't have anything to say. That was quite eloquent,
Karen. '
Pigott/ I think that Karen has mentioned a lot of the concerns that
everyone has had. My opposition has been based on~artly on
the infrastructure.costs and the.fact that we are developing
next to an area tha~ already is rezoned for RFBH or very close
to it. And the cost Of doing this in this location. Maybe we
could do something similar in another location. I think that
we should investigate Other possible uses of the funds. I
thinkthat Karen has mentioned downpayment assistance program
and that is one that I would be interested in looking at.
Because a majority of council supports going forward and
moving towards affordable housing for people, let's find one
solution that works for all of us. Thanks.
Horow/ Thanks you. Larry-
Baker/ Like Karen, I thought tonight that the vote would be to
defer this and send it.back to P/Z and have them mad at us
more formally than they are now. So I don't have anything
organized. But I do have some things to say because I think it
needs to be clear at least in my mind why I would Support this
project and why I have a hard time understanding the
opposition to it. If I were a neurotic person I would see lots
of irony in this situation. But I am basically pretty.dull and
serious.-We have got a project in front of us that the city
staff has recommended, that the. CCN has recommended, Housing
Commission has recommended, P/Z has recommended and I will'go
through why I would support this. But to explain why I would
support this I have to really rule our why I would not 5ppose
it and when I mentioned earlier that part of the reason I had
to wait was because I was concerned about the shifting te~ms
of the opposition it seemed like. I will say rightup front,
Karen, you have been absolutely consistent. In fact,- 3-4
months ago I would have predicted you would have voted against
this project. Not for all of the reasons that are articulated.
But there is a certain consistency with a certain priority as
far as certain groups that need to be helped in a certain
order. I understand that and if it were a case where we could
take this money and 'use it more effectively to solve that
problem,.it would be more understandable for me. But we have
an option here and we directed the city staff to take this
federal grant and do two things:. some sort of flood plain
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relief relocation efforts and start to address thequestion of
affordable housing in Iowa City.which has been an issue in
campaigns for the last 2-3 campaigns. I t~ink one of the
things that I have learned from this discuss~on over the past
few months is that there is no consensus about what the
definition of affordable means. Karen has a definition. I have
a broader definition. I don't know-I won't articulate where
anybody else is. But, when I get down to studying this
project, there is one overwhelming objection that I have a
hard time deflating. Location. If I lived in this are and was
not on this city council, I would probably be in the audience
and speaking to this. group. I understand that objection. That
is understandable. It is a respectable objection. I understand
the concentration issue. And though this part of town doesn't
have an inordinate amount of low income people, it does have
an inordinate amount of this type of housing. So, then the
question becomes why don't we put it somewhere else. Larry
SchnittJer, the staff had talked about this. We searched. We
knewup front as a council in the direction we gave the city
staff that we have problems with location. As it turns out,
with the time frame that we have and the proposals that we got
and the search that we did for other locations, we came back
to this area. So one of the things that is really-going to
determine. a vote for anybody is what do you trade of~. Other
opposition to this. I thought I. had it listed. But I get here
tonight I thought I knew what the opposition was and it
shifted a little. Is this an appropriate use of the federal
money. We directed the staff to use it this way.' The
assumption they had was that they had a clear majority that
supported the idea of flood relief, flood relocation and
affordable'housing. That changes in the last month or two. Is
it a wise use of the money. I think using $400,000 grant is
sort of seed money to produce 116 lost or pads of subsidized
housing, 20 rental units of Section 8 or whatever, and 200 and
something other pads 'of aSfordable housing makes the use'of
this money for this project appropriate. You can argue about
that but I am convinced that this is an appropriate use of the
money. The second opposition to t-his project was thequestion
of the growth of the city, extending city'services, out of
sequence development° And once again, it is a matter of trade
off. I appreciated your discussion of Sycamore Farms as an
example of where you have a goal, you have a policy in your
own mind at least, and you are confronted with the situation
that makes you reevaluate how rigid you are going to be in
that opposition. I cannot believe that this annexation and
rezoning creates any significant burden on city services that
is not already been created in the past. Police and fire as
Steve said last night are negligible. Snow plowing, garbage
collection, transit is an interesting issue because we are
not-there was never the assump~ion that we are going to send
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the bus down there the firs~ time .Bob Wolf puts a home down
there. It is an area that we have made an obligation to serve
with Transit. I firmly believe this project.would have made
that Transit service a more viable service. Question is,'we11,
this is really not dense enough development to Justify that
sort of service down there. But folks, if we'had come in with
a higher zoning for this kind of project, there wouldn't be
room in this building for the apposition to it. The staff has
said .RS-5 was a compromise on their part to make it
politically expedient to get. it through. So the discussion of
well, if it is denser it is more viable. You are right, it is.
But for this project it is not viable. The infrastructure
argument has been the most baffling to me. And that is why I
really wanted to get it clarified earlier. We are going to
build a road, four people have said we are happy with thepark
road,.we will phase this in over aiong long run. In fact the
staff came up with their own phasing proposal and that is
where I thought I understood one person's opposition based
upon infrastructure and another question as well. It comes
back to the first problem which is location. Is this
affordable housing and that seemed to be another objection. It
is not really affordable housing and this is where we have
tinkered with figures and heard conflicting figures and how to
interpret them. If manufactured housing is not affordable for
a certain group of people in Iowa City who have not been able
to be served by available housing, then we shouldn't have any
illusions about trying to do this somewhere else. Manufactured
housing is an affordable option for a certain group of people
in town currently not available. Will the market satisfy that.
I have the feeling that Bob Wolf's interest in developing this
project on his own in the county comes out of it wouldn't have
happened'unless he got involved in this project to begin with.
I am not sure that the market would have necessarily solved
this problem. Is Sycamore Farms going to be enough. I am more
confident that Bob Wolf wi~l develop quicker than I-am that
Sycamore Farms will develop. I have no objective rationale,
Just subjective feeling. Now we get into something else that
comes up tonight. The process of not dong this until we see
the total picture and. this is where-Jim, I absolutely agree
that this is in the best of all possible worlds, this is what
we ought to do on every issue. But I didn'2 hear-When I came
in somebody asked me what I thought to be your concerns about
this proJect'a couple of days ago, I would have listed three
concerns and I would have never thought of that because I
hadn't heard you articulate, I don't think, that- concern
before. That is what I talk .about it is harder and harder to
respond to these things because they come at me.
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Throg/ A quick reaction. It is an effort to find a compromise
solution, right, and I had talked with Karin Franklin though
not with other members of. council.
Baker/ The problem that is in my mind, that if we try to address
these issues and said we will only do it when every piece is
in place, there is a potential there to paralyze government.
And I think that is what has happened here. We have become
paralyzed when we have a project that is not-And a couple of
people have come right out and said'it. We Just don't find it
acceptable. And I really appreciate those people who will say
up front it is the location. It is-forget everything else. It
is the location. And I say, I have a hard time disagreeing
with you. Can the market satisfy this. No. I don't think they
can as soon as we could spur it. I am a little reluctant to be
abstract. And this is the only thing that I have in common
with George Bush. It is the vision thing you know. It is hard
for me to articulate-I hate to use those large concepts. I
quite honestly have a much lower level-here is a problem, here
is a project, let's deal with this. Have something in the
background. I look at this project and I say, okay, there is
a lot that could be better about this project but we have a
time frame. we have a staff that has worked on certain
assumptions that we have created. That I think at-least six
members of this body haPe created and now we are saying, all
right, we know that thi~ is a form of affordable housing but
there is too much else-that we have problems with. So we are
going to let this one go in this location. I really am forced
to come to the conclusion that of all those issues, the one
that is not going to go away .is location. And I am very
concerned about us trying to do any comparable project
anywhere else in the city. We talked about moving it up to a
section of land up further north from the Green View project,
closer into the city limits. Once again, if you look at that
map, if we put that project right next to that group of homes
that I think is RS-5 or RS-8, the volume would be Just as
ihtense and 'the concerns just as genuine. Anywhere you go in
this city we will face the same problem. I agree, that if and
we are .always going to face the problem of a super
extraordinary majority. Because I am always going to assu~e
that adjoining property owners will object to this kind of
project. I Just think that we need to be able to say 'to the
staff and the public, look, this is a priority of ours and we
will have to disappoint some people. We are going to have to
put it somewhere. If we are not going to be able to put it
somewhere with six votes, I am all for rethinking the whole
question of manufactured housing.
Kubby/ I guess I want to respond to that for just a minute' because
if you take this project and say that all manufactured housing
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communities are going to be the type that Bob Wolf wants to
develop. If you make that assumption then I think you are
correct that if we only do the priorities that I want to do,
those high priorities with city funds or with public moneys,
you make the two. assumptions: 1- You only do the high
priorities, the extremely low and Very low income households.
And the other assumption is that all mobile home parks are the
housing value of a Modern Manor. I think you are correct. But
it was Bob Wolf's desire to have the housing costs, the kind
of mobile homes that would be in that park, be of a certain
value and so I think if we did something in another place Or
at another time or we look at this issue again, our choices
are not only to be at a $15,000 to $70,000 range with the
middle range being $25,000 to $40,000 with that increased
interest costs, etc. We could go to a lower end of the
market. Public opposition is not, in and of itself, a reason
for me to say no.
Baker/ Go to a lower end of the market. It seems to me that
increases the opposi%ion.
Kubby/ But you see, that is not a problem for me. The public
opposition in and of itself- I ~ean, most of my things that I
am in the minority on I take a lot of grief about because a
lot of people disagree with my votes on certain things. It is
looking at this all in tandem. Okay, let's say this same park
was on the west side with the infrastructure costs, the
transit challenges, and the income levels were the same, the
20 units, it might change something for me. But it is all of
the things together at once.
Baker/ If it was this or if it was that we could do a lot different
things. But we don't.
Kubby/ And I am saying because those things are together, I am
willing to say no to something to live out those values.
Baker/ I think that if you don't bend somewhat you will always-you
will never achieve this.
Horow/ Let's-
Audience/ (Can't hear).
Horow/ Yes it is. That is all right. Naomi-
Nov/
I need to say something in response to her. Because you
brought out the history of this, I have to add that we started
out before we ever considered this, saying we were going to
have flood moneys spent to buy property in the flood plain. We
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were going to move property owners away from the flood plain
and we were going to say that that property is going to be
city owned public property. We were going to take housing off
of the market and not going to add to it. And the only reason
we did not buy that property is that the owner refused to'sell
it. And this is the same question we come across here. We
looked at the possibility of putting this kind of development
here and .there and there. the owner would not sell it. So
therefore, we are ending up with this one. And when this came
out of P/Z with about ten different conditions on it, the
council proceeded to add more conditions and I give Karen
credit for the fact that we would have 20 rental units which
conditions did not come until it got to council level and we
are going to have both P/$ and city council review the design
of this which did not have when it first came to us. And if we
continue talking a little bit longer, we could add a couple
more of conditions. However, I thinkwe have a good plan here
and it is time to vote on it.
Horow/ I would like to end this. It is my feeling that council's
concern for all of us is to house people. We recognize through
our various commissions and various reports that there is 'a
need for more affordable housing in this city. We can't teil
people to go to Coralville and North Liberty~ Shueyville, Lone
Tree. We can't shoo them away from our city. They are here,
they are waiting, they are'on waiting lists. The next issue is
that council as an elected body often has to make whole
decisions. It has to say we are going to do this. We are going
to take the moneys that happen to be available. God knows that
we didn't need the flood but we had it and we received the
money for this. We. take advantage of leverage, ~sing money,
that 'is a wise thing for our council to do. It helps your city
in the overall. I feelthat we are right to intervene. Private
market has .not given us the houses that our advisory
committees tell us are necessary. We have the right, actually,
we should ta~e that right to do that. We have got people who
need homes. Our main priority was to increase the housing
stock, not just do something quick and dirty and get out. But
to actually increase the housing stock. And I think'that this
plan as it has been proposed, is a good one. It is a concept
and sometimes I think this council just doesn't feel
comfortable with concepts. It must tie down every detail. That
is unfortunate because this is a good concept and I thinkwe
are missing the boat on this one. I would like to take a roll
call vote. The ordinance is defeated, Kubby, Pigott, and Tbrog
voting no.
We need to go back to the annexation and the prevailing side.
Chair would entertain.a motion to reconsider the annexation.
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Moved byNov, seconded by Lehman. Any discussion. All those in
favor signify by saying aye (ayes).
Woito/ You need to disapprove the resolution.
Horow/ Moved
. by Nov, seconded by Lehman to disapprove the
resoAution. Any discussion. All those in favor-we need a roll
call-
Woito! The way it is stated, you should vote aye to vote down. You
are undoing what you did before on the annexation if you so
choose. (Roll call: 6/1, Baker: No.)
Horow! Chair would entertain'a motion to take a break.
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Agenda
Iowa City City Council
Regular Council Meeting
January 31, 1995
Page 10
Consider an ordinance amending the Zoning Ordinance by changing the
use regulations of a 0,32 acre parcel located at 719 S. Capitol Street
from C1-1, Intensive Commercial, to 15, Public. {REZ94-O017) (First
Consideration)
Comment: At its December 15, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning
Commission, by a vote of 5-1, with Dierks voting no, recommended
approval of an application submitted by Johnson CounW to rezone a
0.32 acre parcel located at 719 S. Ca. pitol Street from C1-1, Intensive
Commercial, to P, Public. The Commission's recommendation is
consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the Staff Report
dated December 15, 1994, No public comments were received at the
January 17, 1995, public hearing on this item.
Consider an ordinance amending Zoning Chapter Article N., Off-Street
Parking Requirements, Section 14-6N-lB1 specifying construction
materials for required hard-surface parking areas. (Second Consider-
ation)
Comment: At its December I, 199¥ meeting, the Planning and Zoning
Commission by a vote of 4-2, with Scott and Jakobsen voting no,
recommended approval of a text amendment to Zoning Chapter Article
N., Off-Street Parking Requirements, Section 14-6N-1 B1 requiring hard-
surfaced parking areas to be constructed of a~phaltic cement concrete,
Portland cement concrete, or manufactured paving materials, such as
brick, unless otherwise exempted, or authorized by the City Building
Official to use other materials. The Commission's recommendation is
generally consistent with the staff recommendation as set forth in the
staff report dated December 1, 1994. No public comments were
received at the January 3, 1995 public hearing on this item.
Agenda
Iowa City City Council
Regular Council Meeting
January 31, 1995
Page 11
Consider an ordinance amending Zoning Chapter Section 14-6E-6C1 to
clarify the density requirement for dwelling units in the CB-2, Central
Business zone. {Second Consideration)
Comment: At its December 1, 1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning
Commission, by a vote of 6-0, recommended approval of a text
amendment to Zoning Chapter Section 14-6E~6C1 to specify the
requirement of a minimum lot area of 875 square feet per dwelling unit
in the CB-2 zone, The Commission's recommendation is consistent with
the staff recommendation as set forth in the staff report dated Decem-
ber 1, 1994, No public comments were received on this item at the
January 3, 1995 public hearing on this item,
Action:
Consider an ordinance to vacate a portion of Waterfront Drive located
south of Highway 6 and west of the CRANDIC Railroad right-of-way.
(VAC94-0007) (Pass and Adopt)
Comment: At its November 17,'1994, meeting, the Planning and Zoning
Commission, by a vote of 6-0, recommended approval of VAC94-0007,
a City-initiated proposal to vacate a portion of Waterfront Drive located
south of Highway 6 and west of the CRANDIC Railroad right-of-way,
subject to retention of utility easements over the entire vacated right-of-
way, and the said vacation taking effect at such time as Stevens Drive
and Waterfront Drive are reconstructed. The Commission's recommen-
dation is consistent with the s~aff recommendation contained in the staff
report dated November 17, 1994. Comments were received from the
public at the December 20, lg94, public hearing on this item.
Action:
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ITEM NO. 6 t.
Consider an ordinance to vacate a portion of
Waterfront Drive located south of Highway 6
and west of the CI~ANDIC Railroad right-of-way.
(VAC94-0007) (Pass and Adopt)
Horow/ Moved by Throg, seconded by Pigott% Any discfission. I would
just like to say that Hy-Vee has waited aiong time for this.
Let's go..Roll call- (yes) Passes.
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Iowa City City Council
Regular Council Meeting
January 31, 1995
Page 12
Consider a letter to the Johnson County Board of Supervisors recom-
mending denial of an application submitted by Jerry Eyman to fezone
approximately 12.48 acres from A1, Rural, to CP-2, Planned Commer-
cial, for property located in Fringe Area 5 west of the 1-80 interchange
with the Herbert Hoover Highway. (CZ9465)
· ITEM NO,
Comment: At its January 19, 1995, meeting, the Planning and Zoning
Commission, by a vote of 5-0, recommended that the CiW Council
forward a comment to the Johnson County Board of Supervisors stating
in the strongest terms possible that CZ9465, an application to rezone
approximately 12.48 acres from A1, Rural, to CP-2, Planned Commer-
cial, is not consistent with the mutually agreed upon Fringe Area Policy
for Fringe Area 5 and should be denied. The Commission's recommen-
dation is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the staff
memorandum dated January 12, 1995.
Action: ~/~~ ~'~'~/~'/
ANNOUNCEMENT OF VACANCIES,
a. Previously Announced Vacancies.
(1)
Animal Control Advisory Board - One vacancy for a three-year term
ending April 5, 1998. (Janice Becker's term ends.) {2 males and '
2 females presently on Board.)
(2)
Mayor's Youth Employment Board - Two vacancies for three-year
terms ending April 15, 1998. (Terms of Dave Jacoby and Loren
Forbes end.) {2 males and 8 females presently on Board.)
These appointments will be made at the February 14, 1995, meeting of
the City Council.
b. Current Vacancies.
(1)
Board of Library Trustees - One vacancy for an unexpired term
ending July 1, 1999. (Anne Hargrave~ resigned.) {3 males and 5
females presently on Board.)
(2)
Board of Appeals - One vacancy for a mechanical professional for
an unexpired term ending December 31, 1998. (Dave W. Christine
resigned.) (4 males and 2 females currently on Board.)
(3)
Housing Commission - Three vacancies for three-year terms ending
May 1, 1998. (Terms of Roger Reilly, Benjamin Moors, and Jack
McMahon end.) (2 males and 2 females presently on Commission.)
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ITeM NO. 6 u.
Consider a letter to the Johnson County Board
of Supervisors recommending denial of an
application submittedby Jerry Eyman to fezone
approximately 12.48 acres from A1, Rural, to
CP-2, Planned Commercial, for property located
in Fringe Area 5 west of the 1-80 int~rchange
with the Herbert Hoover Highway. (CZ9465)
Nov/ I move that we send this letter to the Board of Supervisors.
Kubby/ With explanation point.
Throg/ Yes.
Pigott/ That means I second.
Horow/ No you didn't, Karen did. I took that as a second. Is it
council's desire that their mayor shows up again for what it
is worth?
Kubby/ I hate to he resigned to the fact that it won't help. I do
believe that- I am resigned to the fact that it won't help but
in order to try not to live out resignation at least a call
would be great.
Pigott/ March down there Sue.
Kubby/ A call.
Baker/ Chain yourself to the door.
Horow/ We don't need a roll call on this.
Nov/ We could decide to opt out of fringe area agreement and then
enforce city building codes in this two mile fringe area. We
have that right, you know.
Kubby/ And we have been asked-
Horow/ It is twenty minutes to twelve and you have got that much
devil in you. You are really amazing. It makes sense.
Baker/' Naomi is right. It makes perfect sense.
Kubby/ Can we do that right now?.
Nov/ No, I don't thi~ we can do it right now. We have to have a
p.h.
Horow/ All right folks. I will give it my best shot.
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Baker/ Can we discuss that. Not tonight but-
Horow! Sure, anything? All those in favor signify by saying aye
(ayes). Thank you.
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Agenda
Iowa City City Council
Regular (~ouncil Meeting
January 31, 1995
Page 13
(4)
Planning and Zoning Commission -Two vacancies for five year
terms ending May 1, 2000. (Terms of Kenneth Cooper and Ann
Bovbjerg end.) (3 males and 2 females presently on Commission.)
These appointments will be made at the March 7, 1995, meeting of the
City Council. '
ITEM NO. 8 - CiTY COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS.
Consider an appointment to the Airport Commission for a six-year term
ending March 1, 2001. (John Ockenfels' term ends.) (4 males and no
females presently on Commission.)
Action:
Consider appointments to the Committee on Community Needs to fill
two vacancies for three-year terms ending April 1, 1998. (Terms of
Gretchen Schmuch and Rusty Martin end.) (2 males and 6 females
presently on Committee.)
Action: ~ ~
Consider appointments to the Historic Preservation Commission to fill
two vacancies for three-year terms ending March 29, 1998. (Terms of
Kevin Hanick and Jay Semel end.) {1 male and 4 females presently on
Commission.)
(1) At-large representative.
{2) Summit Street District representative.
Action:
Consider recommendation of the Johnson County Board of Supervisors
that Sue Chase be appointed to the Riverfront and Natural Areae
Commission as a representative of the CounW for a three-year term
ending January 1, 1998. (Barbara Hinkel's term ends.) (6 males and 4
females presently on Commission.)
Act,on=
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ITEI~ NO. 8 - CITY COUNCIL ~PPOINTI~i~I'So
ae
Consider an appointment to the Airport Commission for a
six-year term ending March 1, 2001. (John Ockenfels'
term ends.) (4 males and no females presently on Commis-
sion.)
Horow/ Last evening the council agreed to appoint Richard Msscarl,
1651 Dover Street.
Consider appointments to the Committee on. Community Needs
to fill two vacancies for three-year terms ending April
1, 1998. (Ter~s of Gretchen Schlnuch and Rusty Martin
end.) (2 males and 6 females presently on Committee.)
Horow/ Council determined to reappoint Gretchen Schmuch, 831 E.
Market Street and appoint Tim Ruxton, 626 Bowery Street.
Consider appointments to the Historic Preservation
Commission to fill two vacancies for three-year terms
ending March 29, 1998. (Terms of Kevin Hanick and Jay
Semel end.) (1 male $nd 4 females presently on Commis-
sion.)
(1) At-large representative.
Horow/ council agreed to appoint Michael Pugh, 730 Third Avenue.
(2) Summit Street District representative.
Horow/ We appointed John Shaw, 437 South Summit. We didn't deal
with this last night. Chair would entertain a motion to accept
the appointments that we determined last night.
Moved by Lehman, seconded by Baker. Any discussion.
Pigott/ We did not reappoint Rusty Hartin to the CCN. I wanted to
say thank you to Rusty Martin for the'work on CCN. I worked on
the Committee with him and felt that he did a tremendous job
and would have like to see him reappointed but I am Just happy
that he had the opportunity and did a great Job on the
Committee.
Kubby/ I also wanted to make a comment in that our tradition has
been that unless someone has performed poorly on a board or
commission or has served some ungodly number of terms although
we don't even do that. That people are usually reappointed.
And there are two people who were not being reappointed to
different things. One is Rusty Hartin to the CCN and the other
is Kevin Hanick to Historic Preservation commission and I find
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both of these individuals to be active, vibrant, effective
members of the committees and I am sorry to see them not
reappointed. I will be voting for the appointments because I
do have no objections to the people that we will be-
Horow/ I am glad you reminded me 'about this because we also all
agreed to ask Kevin to stay involved in Historic Preservation
as long as he possibly can. R011 call- Or motion. All those in
favor signify by saying aye (ayes). Thank you very much.
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ITEM NO. 8 - CITY COUNCIL ~PPOINTHENTS.
Consider recommendation of the Johnson County Board of
Supervisors that SueChase be appointed to the Riverfront
and Natural Areas Commission as a representative of the
County for a three-year term ending January 1, 1998.
(Barbara Hinkelts term ends.) (6 males and 4 females
presently on
Horow/ All that we need to.do is-
Moved by Kubby, seconded by Nov. Any discussion.
Kubby/ The discussion we just had kind of pertains to Barbara in
that she wanted to be on this Commission but the county
couldntt reappointher because she lives in Coralvilleand not
within the unincorporated areas of the countyJ There are many
subcom~ittees on this Commission and hopefully she will stay
involved in some of those subcommittees as a volunteer.
Horow/ Good point. Okay. All those if favor signify by saying aye
(ayes).
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ITEM NO. 9 - CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION.
ITEM NO. 10 - REPORT ON ITEMS FROM THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY.
a. City Manager.
b, City Attorney,
· ITEM NO. 11--
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING A REVISED SCHEDULE OF FEES
AND CHARGES FOR PARKS AND RECREATION SERVICES AND PROGRAMS.
Comment: The Parks and Recreation Commission and staff review fees and
charges annually, and increases are considered in order to help support the
Recreation Division's budget. The Commission's objective is to generate
approximately 45% of the Division's budget from non-property tax revenues.
the proposed fee increases for FY96 will help to achieve budget support in
the amount of 44.63%. A three-year plan has been established, with FY96
fee increases being recommended for adoption at this time, and FY97 and 98
fee increases tentatively identified. Some of the FY96 increases will actually
be implemented in FY95 because the summer season begins in FY95, but
continues into FY96. The Parks and Recreation Commission has reviewed
and adopted the proposed increases.
Act,on
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ITEM NO. 9 - CITY COUNCIL INFORF, ATION.
Horow/ City Council Information.
Kubby/ Three short things. First I would request that in our next
packet we get a report from HIS and our City Attorney with an
update with what is happening with the Cliff's Apartments in
rectifying the erosion control problem. Secondly, I would like
to request that our Transit Division ask the property owners
at Modern Manor and Sunrise Mobile Home Parks to be able to
stuff mail boxes with information about the east side loop. I
am getting some feedback that people in those two mobile home
parks aren't sure of the schedule or aren't even aware that
there is a route that is now going past them. And lastly I
want to thank the video crew. I know I do it kind of later at
night but you all stand up and sit. I know it is not easy. I
know you can get overtime so that is an incentive but it is
not an easy Job that you have and I truly appreciate it. That
is it.
Pigott/ Yes. I have a couple of things. First I Just wanted to
comment that last night we talked about the Senior Center and
Adult Day Care Program and it seemed to me that the issue in
that, I want to revisit it for a minute, was if we didn't keep
this program in the Senior center we might be looking at an
expenditure of CDBG funds in the area of $150,000 for a
building. The county apparently last year came in and
requested that amount from the CCN. I just wanted to repeat
that because it seems like maybe that would happen again. They
need a building somewhere else and our decision not to allow
it to stay in the Senior Center may cause us to think about
spending $150,000 to $200,000 instead of spending perhaps less
in the Senior Center. In other words, there may be a financial
cost of moving it out of the Senior Center to us despite the
fact it is not a city program. Which is interesting.
Nov/ That is a projection that may or may not be true.
Pigott/ Indeed,. you are right.
Nov/ The plan at one time was to construct a building. Now they are
talking about buying something. and spending a lot less money
on remodeling. We just don't know yet.
Pigott/ Still, it could be significant amount of money and we could
contribute to it.
Horow/ It could also happen within five years. So, we will get it
either way.
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Pigott/ Some of the other things I think about is given the fact
that Congress has changed, given the fact that their
inclination is either to give money in forms of block grants
or not at all probably, that we may find ourselves down the
road where we don't have the CDGB money that we have today and
forced to come up with a decision in a different location. So,
this decision, I am not saying that one or the other is right,
but I am just trying t'o look at the implications of it. And it
could be that we are not spending a chunk of money because of
this.
Horow/ I think we may even have to be faced with a decision of
spending money for things like Congregate Meals in which case
Adult Day Program is highly questionable whether it can
continue. There is a lot of issues in this that I don't thi~k
have really been thought out and I know that the County Board
is graveling with.
Pigott/ I guess What I would like to urge us to do is retain some
flexibility in thinking about it so that we don't end up
committing ourselves to this kind of chunk of money we don't
have down the line on a program and I know.that it is
difficult but-
Nov/ We don't spend money that we don't have.
Pigott/ Well, we borrow.
Secondly, we received a memo from Steve Atkins regarding
General Fund Revenues and he talked about the council's severe
lack of discretionary authority with respect to General Fund
levels. I know a lot of people probably aren,t watching this
right now but I think it is important to note the kind of
discretionary authority or the lack of discretionary authority
that we have. In his memo he mentioned that approximately 83%
of General Fund revenues have some form of state regulation or
related control. And he presented us with a little chart
mentioning all of the different revenue sources. One is
property tax, the state selects the allowable rate. Transfer
of Employee Benefits Levy, state ~elects allowable rates. Road
Use Tax, again the state sets the tax base and the amount to
be distributed. The State Funding the state sets a tax base.
Any number of things. The Hotel ~otel Tax, then again, the
state sets the rates. It is important to keep those things in
mind as w6 go through this budget process and it is important
to the citizens to note how deeply constrained this council is
in discretionary spending so that every time we face an
expenditure of a service that may be duplicated that we really
watch where we spend it and this is, I think, a really good
memo. Than~.s, Steve, for that.
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Throg/ Bruno, I would kind of like to reemphasize the other aspect
of that and kind of note the irony of republican government
demanding that the federal government give them block grant
money without any strings attached while in turn tying the
hands of local government.
Pigott/ That is right. It is interesting. The Republican speaker,
for instance, talks very strongly about handing authority back
to the state and local governments. But what they are doing is
what they really talk about hating is unfunded mandates. They
transfer the authority for us to do something to the state and
local level. They don't give us a penney to do it and these
sorts of ways are ways to address it.
Baker/ Dean, you Republican. Bruno was giving the~ a lot of flack
about this. This is a protest. You' are taking off.
Baker/ I will be very brief. We got a copy of a memo to Steve from
Ron Logston about an opportunity for d.t. employees to
purchase half price bus fares and it says there will be a
promotion in the d.t. newsletter and Chamber of Commerce
newsletter. I just wanted to alert the 6-7 semi awake people
out there who know d.t. employees, that these are available
and you should, if you d~n't hear about it, ask your employer
if indeed you are eligible to get:one of these half priced bus
passes and-
Kubby/ The important part is the DTA or the employers is paying
that. It is not that it costs the city half as much. It is a
great contribution.
Baker/ So I urge the people to look for it.
Kubby/ I did forget something. I apologize. When we broke after
talking about Green View, Lyle Seydel came up to me and said
that he felt that I had misrepresented some information and so
I wanted to let people know what that was that he thought I
misrepresented. I think it is important to hear that kind of
feedback. He was saying that when I talked about the
concentration issue that I only talked about city initiated
projects that were in the southeast area of town and I didn't
mention the 100s of Section 8 housing units that are scattered
all over the city. I have alway~ acknowledged that and really
am glad that we have landlords who will participate in the
Section 8 program mostly because it is meeting those high
priority needs and at scattered site housing. I didn't meant
to create that kind of misrepresentation. I tried to emphasize
the things that I pointed out that were city initiated, not
that the federal government is fully funding. Things that we
had lots of control and initiative about. I am sorry if other
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people felt the same way. I just wanted to clear that up.
Thanks.
Horow/ I would like to remind you about animal license renewal
time. I was down today to take care of Samantha and Amelia and
just wanted to let everybody know that this is the first year
th~ the .Anim91 Control LiceNse-they are trying to match
rabies expiration date with license expiration dates. These
people are really hustling. They not only have a very good
Press Citizen advertisement but they have been running four
weeks in a row with the Advertiser. Both Channel 2 and Channel
9 had something on it and KCJJ was talking about it for a
week. So, please, if you haven't gotten your license for your
cat or dog, new law requires cats and dogs at four months of
age to be vaccinated against rabies and adult licenses are now
required at four months also.. Please,. if 'you have any
questions, phone them between 10.30 and 5.00, Monday through
Friday, 10:00 to 3:00 on Saturday. Coralville residents may
still obtain licenses through the Police Department front desk
in-Coralville. Please do it. It is your way to protect'your
own animal.
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ITEM N0. 10 -.REPORT ON
ATTORNEY.
a. City Manager.
ITEMS FROM THE CITY !~.N'AGER ~ CITY
Horow/ Mr. Atkins,. I would like to hear about United Way.
Arkins/ It is almost Wednesday, so if you wouldn't mind I would
1.ike to take my City Manager hat off for just a minute and the
United Way Campaign is over 'in about four minutes officially.
First of all I wanted to start'off by thanking you 'for
allowing me to participate in the United way Campaign. I was
the general campaign chair for 199§ and it. took 'a lot more
time than I thought. You all were very gracious to understand
that it did take a lot of time. I would like to report to you
that I think it was all worthwhile. We had a goal of
$1,111,111.11. Everyone Counts was our theme this year. Well,
we exceeded the goal. For the second year in a row we have
exceeded $1 million. We are $80,000 over last year in our fund
raising. The some 40 some UWAgencies are going to enjoy the
benefits of that effort. And it you wouldn't mind since I
never had a cabinet before but I have one here. Jim Lane of
Heartland Investments, Suzanne Summerwill of Iowa State Bank,
Larry Reinhardt of Proctor and Gamble, Dr. Bill Gay of the
Animal Clinic, Dale and Mary Gail Bentz, and AnnI%hodes of the
University-they were all members of the Cabinet and had a
great deal to do with the success of the campaign. As a
community we should do a Whole beck of a lot bette~ but we did
real good this year.
Kubby/ Kudos to everyone.'who organized and everyone who gave.
Horow/ Great.
Atkins/ That is it.
Nov/ Good Job.
Pigott/ Good Job, Steve.
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ITEl( NO. 11 -
CONBZDER P, RE8OLUTZON EBT~I~LZEIHZN~g ~, REVISED BCHED-
U~E OF FEEB ~ CHARGES FOR P~S ~ I~CRF~TZON
BF, RVZCEB ~ND
Horow/ Moved by Throg, seconded by Lehman. Any discussion?
Kubby/ I will be abstaining because I use the pottery studio and
one of the fees in this schedule is that item.
Horow/ Okay. Any other discussion. Roll call- Resolution is adopted
with Kubby abstaining.
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ITEM NO. 12 - CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST CONTRACT FOR
THE IOWA RIVER FLOOD REPAIRS PROJECT.
Comment: The bid opening for this project was held January 1 ~, 1 995 and
the following bids were received:
Barker's, Inc.
Iowa City, Iowa
$420,150.50
Midwest Excavating, Inc.
Coralville, Iowa
$426,518.95
Peterson Contractors, Inc.
Reinbeck, Iowa
9439,764.25
Tschiggfrie Excavating Co.
Dubuque, Iowa
$453,325.05
Cole Construction Co., Inc.
Kaosaqua, Iowa
9459,427.86
James J. Manno Construction Co.
Ridgeway, Pennsylvania
9511,901.75
Taylor Construction, Inc.
New Vienna, Iowa
9574,967.O0
Wolf Construction, Inc.
Iowa City, Iowa
9579,786.00
Engineer's Estimate
9524,112.00
Public Works and Engineering recommend awarding this contract to Barker's,
Inc. of Iowa City, Iowa. Funding for this project will be provided as follows:
Soil Conservation Service - 9329,749.00; Federal Emergency Management
Agency- 946,947.00; Road Use Tax- 97,604.50; Water Fund - $11,472.00
and General Obligation Debt - 924,378.00.
Action:
I~EH HO, X2 -
CONSZDERA RESOLUTZON ~I~RDZNG CONTIU~CTANDAUTHO-
RZZZNG THE I~YOR TO SZGN ~ THE CZTY CLERK TO
ATTEST CONTInCT FOR THE Io1~ RZVER FLOOD REPAZRB
PROJECT.
Horow/ Moved by Nov, seconded by Pigott. Discussion.
Kubby/ This is a change. The amount has changed and-
Atkins/ The funding changed, Karen. If you recall the last time
around it was to be all General Fund and I asked that it be
postponed, back and re-fi9%tred the funding trying to minimize
the General Funding impact.
Kubby/ Will you explain why the water Fund?
Arkins/ I don't recall the specific~ but what we did was I went
through the project and I asked staff to explain to me how we
can distribute these costs reasonably and equitably our share
to the various funds that enjoy the benefit of the project.
Kubby/ So I need to understand why the Water Fund enjoys the
benefit of this project?
Denny Gannon/ The Water Fund comes up with the Emergency Spillway
for the Iowa River Power Dam. That is where the water-
Nov/ I have to see some irony here. $420,000 that we did not Spend
earlier that could be used right here.
Horow/ Okay, any other discussion? Roll call- (yes) Motion is
adopted.
Kubby/ There is nothing preventing us from using some of that money
we didn't spend to do more of this'kind of work.
Atkins/ Yes. We are going to come back to you. After hearing y~ur
discussion we are going to give you a couple more ideas.
Nov/ I see no reason why it couldn'~ go right here.
Arkins/ I think we have a match requirement, Naomi. The Soil
Conservation Service, there is a percentage distribution. So
I think we are stuck with something.
Nov/ Think about it.
Arkins/ Yes, will do.
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ITEM NO. 13 -
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE
CITY CLERK TO ATTEST AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF IOWA
CITY AND THE IOWA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR FEDERAL
TRANSPORTATION ENHANCEMENT FUNDS.
ITEM NO. 14-
Comment: This resolution authorizes an agreement between the City of Iowa
City and the Iowa Department of Transportation for federal Transportation
Enhancement funds to be used for the Iowa River Corridor Trail between the
Iowa Memorial Union Bridge and Iowa Avenue. $111,700 in Transportation
Enhancement funds have been approved by JCCOG, representing 80 % of the
estimated $139,625 project cost. The 20% local match will come from the
City of Iowa City. The University has shared in the expense to design the
project, they will be sharing in the expense of construction administration,
and they have agreed to maintain the trail after it is constructed.
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING A 28E AGREEMENT TO
CONDUCT CERTAIN ACTIVITIES BY THE IOWA CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT
(ICPD), THE CORALVILLE POLICE DEPARTMENT (CPD) AND THE IOWA
ClTY/CORALVlLLE SAFE CERTIFIED COMMUNITIES MEMBERSHIP (SAFE).
ITEM NO. 15-
Comment: This 28E Agreement allows the Police Departments in Coralville
and Iowa City to work with the SAFE committee to make residents aware of
Crime Prevention strategies through a series of articles, radio and television
broadcasts, ads and public service announcements. A grant will allow the
Police Departments to offer specialized assistance with home security
analysis, operation identification, and car security during the grant period.
The Grant is for $5,000 and makes the cities eligible for additional funding.
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ADOPTING A PORTION OF IOWA ClTY'S
CONSOLIDATED PLAN FOR FY1995-FY2000 {AKA CITY STEPS).
Comment: As required by HUD, the City of Iowa City must prepare and
submit a Consolidated Plan. The portion of the plan under consideration is
the Citizen Participation Plan and Priorities and Strategies section. Public
input received by Council on these sections at the January 17, 1995 Public
Hearing has been taken into consideration.
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ITF~ NO. 13 -
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ~YOR TO SIGN
AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST AN AGI~EI~ENT BETWEEN
THE CITY OF Iowa CITY AND THE Iowa DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION FOR FEDER~ TRANGPORTATION ENRAWCN-
~ENT FUNDS.
Horow/ Moved by Pigott, seconded by Throg. Discussion. Roll call-
Pigott/ I am happy to see this money.
Horow/ Me, too.
Woito/ (Reads roll call).
Horow/ Resolution is adopted.
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ITEMNO. 14 -
CONBIDBR A RESOLUTION ESTABLIBHINQ A 28E AGREEMENT
TO CONDUCT CERTALN ACTIVITIES BY THE Iowa CITY
POLI~E DEPA~TMEI~ (ZCPD) v THE C0R~LVILLE POLIOE
DEPARTMENT (CPD) ~ THE Iowa aXTY/C0RALVILLE BAFE
CBRTXFIED a0MMUNITIESMEMBERSHZP (SAFE).
Horow/ Moved by Kubby, seconded by Pigott. Any discussion? All I
can say is I have been taking part in the discussion leading
up to this as have members of our Police Department. I feel
quite comfortable about this particular project. Roll call
(yes). The resolution is adopted.
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ITEll NO, 1.5 -
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ADOPTING A PORTION OF IOWe
CITY~S CONSOLIDATED PLAN FOR FY1995-FYi000 .(AKA
CITY STEPS).
Horow/ Moved by Nov, seconded by Kubby. Discussion'.
Kubby/ Somehow I feel like there should be discussion on this
because it is the document that will guide us when we are
choosing how to spend money on housing.
Horow/ I have to agree with you on that.
Kubby/ But it is late. ;knd I feel sadly about that because there
was such public participation in the past when we had public
input into other documents in earlier years when I was on CON.
There wasn't a lot of involvement. There were opportunities to
be involved by there wasn't-people didn,t take the opportunity
and people on CON and on City Steps task Force were really did
a great Job of getting people out and going out to where
people were and that makes this document even more valuable.
Horow/ It seems to me that they did a yeoman's job in getting out
to get the input but the people from whom they received it
were overwhelmingly those people who desperately needed help
and so to me there is a almost bias in the input that came in
and that is so frustrating.
Kubby/ It kind of makes sense that the people who are needing help
when there is an opportunity to ask for it, those are the
people who ask for it.
Horow/ That is one way of putting it. Any other discussion?
Nov/ There were other people also who did participate.
Horow/ There were but not-
Nov/
People in the business community did participate, not
predominantly. No. But we don't want to give the impression
that only those in need showed up.
Horow/ I think, Karen, I was looking for a balance of the community
that would be interested in more than just the desperate needs
that we heard.
Kubby/ They are in here. They are just not high priority but they
are in here as medium- I think those are reflected.
Pigott/ I am not hearing.you say you disagree with the dooument or
anything like that, Sue, are you?
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Horow/ I have my reservations. I have to be honest with you. I
really really do. I think the document has been worked and
certainly well thought out. But I do have my reservations.
Okay. Roll call- (yes). resolution is adopted.
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ITEM NO, 16 -
?5-/<7
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING LOAN AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE
CITY, THE IOWA DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND
NATIONAL COMPUTER SYSTEMS, INC. FOR $635,000 OF COMMUNITY
ECONOMIC BETTERMENT FUNDS TO ASSIST IN CONSTRUCTION OF A
BUILDING EXPANSION.
ITEM NO. 17 -
Comment: On July 15, 1993, the Iowa Department of Economic Develop-
ment awarded the City and National Computer Systems a $635,000
forgivable loan from the Community Economic Betterment Account. The
terms of the agreements have been agreed to and the attached resolution
authorizes the Mayor to sign the Loan Agrsements and Promissory Notes.
Action= ~X~ ~/~ '
CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TITLE 14, CHAPTER 9,
ARTICLE A, ENTITLED "PARKING FACILITY IMPACT FEE" TO CORRECT THE
LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE NEAR SOUTHSIDE PARKING FACILITY
DISTRICT. {SECOND CONSIDERATION)
Comment: The ordinance amending the Parking Facility Impact Fee
Ordinance to include commercial development contained a scrivener's error
in the legal description. This ordinance corrects that error. Staff recommends
the Council waive the second reading and pass and adopt the Ordinance.
Action:
ITEM NO. 18 - ADJOURNMENT.
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ITEI~ NO. :16 -
CONSIDER & RESOLUTION ~%PPROVING LOAN &GREEMENT8
BETWEEN THE CITY, THE Iowa DBPARTI4BET OF ECONOMIC
DEV~LOPMENTANDNATIONI%LCOHPUTBRSYSTEI(S, INC. FOR
$63S,000 OF COMMUNITY ECONOMIC BETTBRMENTFUNDB TO
ASSIST IN COESTRUCTION OF A BUILDING EXPANSION.
Horow/ Moved by Kubby, seconded by Pigott. Discussion.
Pigott/ Sue, I wondered if you could alert the people who might be
watching why now this is happening and not July 14.
Horow/ The working up a contract between the Economic Development
and NCS just took this long. Either through personnel needs at
the State Department, Iowa Department. It was a surprise to me
that it took this long but that is the legality.
Nov/ There was a change in director, too.
Horow/ Right.
Throg/ I guess I would like to say very briefly that if this had
been a new proposal to us I would have had lots of questions.
I would have been very curious to hear the responses. But
since it was approved bye city council a year and a half ago
I don't have any.
Horow/ Thank you, Jim. Roll call- (yes). Resolution is adopted,
hooray.
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ITEM NO. 17 -
CONSIDER AN ORDZI~i~NCE ~.NDING THE TITLE 14~
TERP~ARTICLE A~ ENTITLED "PARKINQ FACZLZTYLMPAOT
FEE" TO CORRECT THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE NEAR
SOUTHSIDE P/qRKING FACILITY DISTRICT. (SECOND CON-
SIDERATION)
Horow/ Moved by Kubby, seconded by Nov. to collapse the readings.
Any discussion? Roll call- (6/1, Lehman-no).
Moved by Kubby, seconded by Nov. for final passage. Any
discussion?
Throg/ I have the impression that Karen'wants to get this parking
impact stuff off the agenda.
Kubby/ No, because it is scrivener's error and I don't like to have
those.
Horow/ I would be interested, Ernie, why are voting against
collapsing this?
Lehman/ I don't want to have anything to do with that impact fee.
Horow/ Roll call- (6/1, Lehman-no). This passes with Lehman voting
no.
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City of Iowa City
MEMORANDUM
DATE:
TO:
FROM:
RE:
January 27, Z995
· City Council
City Manager
Nork Session Agenda and Meeting Schedule
January 30, 1995
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g:00 P.M. -
9:30 P.M. -
9:45 P.M. -
January31, 1995
7:30 P.M. -
February 6, 1995
6:30 P.M.
Monday
City Conference Board Meeting
Separate agenda posted
Parks and Recreation Fees and Charges
Review zoning matters
Lake Calvin rezoning
NCS CEBA Loan Agreement
Ride Sharing Incentives
Parking Ramp Improvements
Adult Day Program
Council agenda, Council time, Council committee reports
Consider appointments to the Airport Commission,
Committee on Community Needs and Historic Preservation
Commission
Tuesday
Regular City Council Meeting - Council Chambers
Monday
City Council Work Session - Council Chambers
Discuss FY96-98 Financial Plan
February 7, 1995 Tuesday
6:30 P.M. City Council Work Session - Council Chambers
Discuss FYg6-g8 Financial Plan
February 13, 1995
6:30 P.M.
February 14, 1995
7:30 P.M.
City Council Work Session - Council Chambers
Agenda pending
Regular City Council Meeting - Council Chambers
Monday
Tuesday
PENDING LIST
Appointments to the Animal Control Advisory Board and Mayor's-Youth
EmploJ~nent Board - February 14, 1995
Appointments to the Board of Library Trustees, Board of Appeals, Housing
Commission, and Planning and Zoning Commission - March 7, 1995