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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1995-02-27 TranscriptionFebruary 27, 1995 . Council Work Session Page i February 27,. 1995 . Council Work Session 7:00 PM council: Baker, Kubby, Nov, Pigott, Throg. Absent: Horow, Lehman. Staff: Arkins, Helling, Woito, Kerr, Miklo, Fosse, Winklehake. Tapes: 95-33, all. Review Zonin~ Matters 95-33 S1 a. Consider setting a public hearing for March 28, 1995, on an ordinance establishing the Moffitt Cottage Historic District for property located between Muscatins Avenue and Ralston Creek, north of Court Street. Miklo/ Moffitt Street Historic District .... Muscatine Avenue .... Throg/ Have all five property owners been contacted? Miklo/ Yes, all property owners have been notified .... Public hearing on an ordinance conditionally amending the use regulations of approximately 13.09 acres located at 655 Meadow street from RM-12, Low Density Multi-Family Residential, and RS-5, Low Density Single-Family Residential, to RS-8, Medium Density single-Family Residential. (REZ94-0020) Miklo/ West of Dover Street and north of Muscatine Avenue. Kubby/ I have a bunch of questions .... Miklo/ Property is currently zoned RM-12 (refers to overhead)... Proposal to fezone it to R$-8....neighbors have submitted a successful protest petition so 6/7 council members are necessary for this. Throg/ Were all of those protests from property owners within 200 feet? Miklo/ ...no...enough of them were within 200 feet .... This was recommended for approval by the Commission...also by city staff. Kubby/ What would the number of lots be allowed in that current zoning? Miklo/ ..... the RM-12 zone which is multi family would allow 150 some .... It requires 2,725 square feet per lot area per Thlsrep~en~ only araasonablyaccurate ~anscrlpfionof ~elowa CIH~undlmeefingofFebma~y27,1995. W8022795 February 27, 1995 . Council Work Session Page 2 dwelling unit versus the 4,350 required for duplexes under the RS-8. Throg/ I am not entirely clear about the history of secondary access ..... Why no secondary access was provided to that site in earlier development decisions .... Miklo/ There was some discussion .... Apparently ...cemetery...city did not require it .... A certain point we would be concerned about providing secondary access .... Under proposed rezoning of RS-8 ..... 72 units..at our threshold of 500 vehicles trips per day...se¢ondary access if not needed .... Al%ything above that would require secondary access... Kubby/Another standard that is used is number of lots ..... 29 lots is the cut off ..... Make sure we are being consistent .... Miklo/ First and Rochester has over 100 dwelling units on ..... one point of access ..... under 500 vehicle trips per day policy that is about 70 s.f. lots of 35 duplexed lots ..... Baker/ Miklo/ Could be developed at a higher density under RS-8 .... Applicant did submit a concept plan which shows approximately 72 units .... Baker/ Throg/ We also have a loose criteria that says we don't want more than about 1,000 cars per day on local roads .... currently estimated counts for Dover Street are somewhere around 700. Miklo/ 680 approximately. Throg/ ...say we really want to put more than 300 vehicles per day on Dover Street given that 1,000. Miklo/ our Traffic Engineer and also our Transportation Planner · ..we do have a guide in comp plan that says it is desirable to limit local streets to 1,000 trips per day. This development would result in Dover Street exceeding that ..... Felt because there were two means of access .... national standards call for up to 1500 vehicle trips per day... Transportation Planner also pointed out...Dover...serves as a collector street .... It is not ideal to have 1200 vehicles per day on Dover Street but it is acceptable .... Thisrepresents only areasonably accurate transcription of thelowa Ctty coun~Imeeting ofFebmary27,1995. WS022795 February 27, 1995 . Council Work Session Page 3 Kubby/ ...grade... specifics of the neighborhood... Throg/ Points that Donald L. Green makes in his petition about hazardous driving conditions .... worsened by addition of 500 Oars... I think there is some cause for concern .... Baker/ .... Still have potential for greater traffic problem .... Kubby/ ...maybe we can try to push that number lower .... number of lots would be decreased .... Nov/ 13 X 8, you got your 104 units .... under the allowable density. Throg/ Kubby/ .... Glad we are going lower...dedication of flood plain land ~..connection between parcels...all beautiful things about the project...concern about the street, the grade and the windiness. Throg/ Access.to the north is not possible. Nor to the west .... Is there no way to provide secondary access south .... Miklo/ It would require purchasing property from the funeral home or purchasing an existing residences... Throg/ Miklo/ I did ask Jim Brachtel, Traffic Engineer, about this particular concern...curve and potential intersection .... he said it is not idea but he was not concerned that this development of and in itself would be unduly unsafe situation. Pigott'/ What about .... fire vehicles .... worried about big fire trucks trying to get around the curve .... is that a big concern? Miklo/ We did bring this to the attention of the Fire Department .... they were not concerned...I could check ... I will check. ' Throg/ Has the property owner investigated the possibility of purchasing land near Gay's Funeral Home property to provide secondary access to the south? Miklo/ Not that I know of. Th~s ripresents only. reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa C~ty council moe~ng of February 27, 1995. WS022796 February 27, 1995 . . Council Work Session Page 4 Kubby/ ...There is this memo from Jeff Davidson, October '92 is the date .... looking at the secondary access policy...page 3 .... "shall be defined ..... ,, .... gray areas of going over the threshold .... when can we go over them ..... Miklo/ We aren't going over the threshold for secondary access ..... We are exceeding our threshold for amount of traffic on a local street. Woito/ These policies weren't really adopted bythe council .... just decided and there was not agreement .... a lot of controversy. Miklo/ It was decided. I think it is in the proceeding memo that staff could use these as guidelines...weren,t incorporated · into the subdivision regulations. Woito/ They weren't really adopted by the former council. Kubby/ Do we have any guidelines about secondary access in terms of the grade of the slope? Woito/ I think this is the closest that you ever got to a policy. Kubby/ So, in a letter...guideline 8%. Is that correct? Miklo/ There is in the policies or guidelines that we are using...when a grade exceeds 8% then we would look at a means for a secondary access for emergency vehicles. Kubby/ And what is the grade at Dover there...? Miklo/ ..... 6-7%. Kubby/ Grades confuse me .... Miklo/ That grade would be applied to the new street and not Dover Street. P/gott/ Nov/ What is the incline percentage on Jefferson Street or market Street .... 12-15% .... not that high...? Kubby/ ...they didn't even meet the 3.5 to 1 .... I think .... Baker/ The only thing that prevents this from becoming developed at RM-12 now is lack of secondary access. Thisrepresents only areasonably accuratetranscrlp~on of th~lowa CIWcoun~l mee~ng ofFebtuwy27,1995. WS022795 February 27, 1995 . Council Work Session Page 5 Miklo/ That is right. Someone could propose developing it at RM-12 today and at some point we would have to say that is too many units for the amount of access. Baker/ Kubby/ Decrease in the density of housing that would be theta .... Throg/ Send a couple of signals...strongly favor the idea of in fill development .... 2 .... this as a downzoning...good for neighborhood .... matter of secondary access .... encourage property owner to investigate that .... Kubby/ Miklo/ I don't think it has been talked about ..... this meets our currently guide..lnes... Baker/ ...why would they want to down zone? Nov/ If they could get secondary access, they would want to develop it at RM-12. Throg/ I don't have any strong opposition to RM-12. Baker/ In fill development .... Throg/ For me the biggest concern is traffic on that street ..... significant .... Kubby/ ...p.h. discuss it more .... C® Consider a resolution approving the final plat of D&L Subdivision,- a 6.41 acre, four lot commercial subdivision located on the south side of Highway i West, west of Sunset Street. · Miklo/ Final plat .... 6.41 aores...four lots...council approved preliminary plat .... all conditions...have been approved. Both staff and Commission recommend approval of this item. Consider a resolution approving the preliminary plat of Orchard View Estates, a 107 acre, 34 lot residential subdivision located partially in Fringe Area 4 in Johnson County south of Dingleberry Road NE, approximately 0.6 mile east of its intersection with Highway 1. Thisrepresents only a;easonably accumte uans~pfion of~elowa Clty coun~l meeting ofFebma~y27,1995. WS022795 February 27, 1995 . . Council' Work Session Page 6 Miklo/ Preliminary plat...34 lots, 107 acres. It is Fringe Area 4... staff and commission recommended approval... no conditions recommended on this particular plat. es Consider a letter to the Johnson County Board of Supervisors recommending approval of the rezoning of a 0.73 acre property from A1, Rural, to RS, Suburban Residential for property located in Fringe Area 4 near the southeast corner of Newport Road and Prairie du Chien Road. Miklo/ Next ~wo items are conhected...rezoning of just under an act,...property would also be subdivided into three lots.... reconfigure the property for an additional s.f. residential lot .... conditions were satisfied .... Kubby/ When we get our OPDH ordinance done dealing with sensitive areas...within one mile...versus two mile. Because it is part of our platting process within the city and other plattiDg issues go out one mile and that one should as well. Miklo/ We haven't addressed that .in detail. OPDH regulations are actually zoning regulations ..... As the ordinance is being written...continued to be zoning regulations... to apply them to plats in.the county we would have to negotiate that through an amendment to the fringe area agreement. Kubby/ I would like us to be thinking about that .... lots of important areas within a mile of Iowa City that should be preserved. Throg/ Bob, do you happen to know when that next meeting of the sensitive areas committee is? Miklo/ I believ~ it is on March 7 ..... City Manager's Conf. Room, 12:00. Consider a' resolution approving the preliminary and final plats of Sedlaoek 2nd Addition, a 3-lot residential subdivision located in FringeArea 4 near the southeast corner of Newport Road and Prairie du Chien Road. This represents only a rea,lon~bly accurate b'anscdptlon of the Iowa City council meeting of Febmwy 27, 1995. WS022796 February 27, 1995 . Council Work Session Page 7 Waterfront/Hy Vee Storm Sewer Kubby~ (Can't hear). 95-33 Sl Rick Fosse/ Take a momeDt and go over...drainage problem and. some potential solution and seek some guidance here (refers to map on overhead) .... years we have had problems with drainage in this area .... chronic complaints .... water...across waterfront Drive ..... water shed to the east of the RR tracks...broken into two areas: 26 acreswhich drains in at this point {refers to map)...included HyVee .... and 180 acres .... Look at HyVee site .... look at drainage... HyVee had two choices for storm water management... on site storage.... other choice is to provide a 100 year conveyance out to the Iowa River .... extension of the Iowa River .... HyVee is to pursue this route... piggy back onto that project .... pay for the oversizing of storm sewer .... 'remedy problems... $125,000- 140,000 ...... Other two alternatives for solving it .... {Refers to map) ...... wate~ just sits in the area... Our other option is when we improve this portion of Waterfront Drive...large storm sewer...$283,O00...opportunity to piggy back onto this project...get it done at a lower cost ..... Kubby/ Anyway of relieving problems on Gilbert Street... as well as further east. Fosse/ Yes...take a look at that .... (Refers to map) ...... Kubby/ Does that decrease the number of points where storm water enters...? Fosse/ Yes .... Throg/ If we do the blue line...diverting water away from the green line .... Fosse/ Possibly. o.(refers to map)...There will be a measurable benefit to this property owner...HyVee .... will be able to recoup some of those costs from that property owner .... Throg/ Wondering if there were other property owners who would benefit...? Fosse/ Burden is on HyVee .... Nov/ Fosse/ Purple is our preference ..... Tide represents only a reasonably accurats transcription of the Iowa City council meotlng of February 27, 199G, WS0227.96 February 27, 1995 . . council Work Session Kubby! What fund pays for storm sewer'stuff? Page 8 Arkins/ ,,.Reserve in Road Use Tax Fund .... 2-If we do finance Oakland/Grant byway of CDBG/FE~.., will freeup full cost of that.project...extra moneys within that bond sale .... Make sure if you are even interested in seeing this done, Throg/ I am interested, Kubby/ ...... taking natural storm run off that helps feed those wetlands .... too much .... Fosse/ We will be diverting some of the flow for the wetland here (refers to map).,,10-15% of the flow that goes down there .... One other factor.,if we become a player in this,,, public purpose .... may need to step in-and use our powers of conde~ation .... Kubby/ Let's do it, Arkins/ We Just need some-lead time to get this prepared to go on your CIP list .... come back to you... Nov/ Can this be obligated before deadline on FEF~ funds? Arkins/ The August 1 ..... We will find out for sure; Fosse/ Culminate in an agreement between the city and HyVee .... they design and construction administration,,. Kubby/ Public private partnerships .... to everyone's advantage .... Arkins/ This represents only a reasonably escurme transcription -of the Iowa C~ council mestlng of February 27, 1995. WS022795 February 27, 1995 . Council Work Session Sidewalk Cafes 95-33 S1 Nov/ Let's talk about sidewalk cafes. Page 9 Pigott/ All right .... Karr/ This was placed on your agenda as a follow up to the committee and also to gain some direction from council because the last time we talked about it it was sort of a skeleton approach so we wanted to report back before staff proceeded with any more detail on it. Throg/ I have one quick reaction. I would very much like to see a map of the CB-10, 5 and 2 zones showing the areas that would in fact be eligible for a sidewalk cafe as defined, as constraint. Earr/ Of all the potential zones? Sure, okay. Throg/ .... it is very narrowly constrained ~nd maybe that is good, maybe that is bad but I would like to see a map. Kubby/ Other outdoor areas that serve food, like Seasoh's Best, that is considered an outdoor service area- Karr/ That is on private property. Pigott/ Anything on private'property this doesn't- Karr/ No it does not. Kubby/ But this 'definition of that entity is an outdoor service area or what do you call that. Karr/ That is an outdoor service area because it is on private property and that definition would not change. What this proposal does is take from the section of the code dealing with plaza cafes and the confusion of outdoor service areas that were not on private property and put them together and combine them into one. Kubby/ This definition of restaurant, is it consistent with our zoning ordinance? Karr/ It is the definition of restaurant that we use throughout the code. We made no change in that. Throg/ .... Why 8 feet instead of 4 feet or some smaller-? This ~presents only areasonablyaccur~e ffanscri~lonoflbelowaCIty~un~lmee~n§ofFebmm727,1995. WS022795 February 27, 1995 Council Work Session Page 10 Karr/ 8 feet is what it is currently recommended. The committee met, we talked about that, that was one of the areas we spent a great deal of time on. 8 feet was strongly recommended by the Public Works Department .... 5 feet is the ADA requirement. We could not go below 5. Throg/ Why did Public Works recommend 8 so strongly? Karr/ .... Chuck felt very strongly. Rick was convinced, after talking to Chuck, how strongly he felt a~ut it .... dealt with the use of the pedestrian way .... going to be in a commercial zone where you have 8 feet on either end of it .... flow of people and the commercial nature of the areas .... 8 feet was recommended. Throg/ Woito/ ...When we build public sidewalks, we build them at 8 foot widths .... that is a standard that they believe in .... maintain for safety purposes .... free flow of people. Throg/ The prohibition of having table and chairs in corner areas and about having them not closer than 10 feet from an alley. Karr/ Linda, doesn't that have to do with fire and H.I.S emergency .equipment? A concern that it could easil~"~ extended and not affect an adjoining property- Arkins/ Vision triangle. Woito/ So that you would not have obstructions to people's site from...other portions of the street. Pigott/ Where does the number come from, 10 feet versus say 5...? Do we have room to play? Woito/ You have room to play in all of these numbers. They are based in some sense on some standard .... you can't below the 5 feet in terms of ADA. Karr/ Each one of them .... go to council... get some .sense ...go back to committee... to take back any comments that council had. We really wanted to get your feelings on it and then take it back and look at site specific eases .... Baker/ I have some specific questions .... page 2...weather permitting. Who permits? This is a judgement of the business, This represents only 8 reasonably accurate trm~scrlptlon of the Iowa City council roosting of Febtomy 27, 1995. WS022796 February 27, 1995 isn't it? Council Work Session ~age 11 Karr/ Yes. Baker/ Hours of operation, 8:00 to 9:00. Karr/ That was arbitrary...we did talk as a com/~ittee about establishing hours because it was a concern from our Police Department about enforcement and safety after dark. Throg/ There certainly should be hours...whether 10:O0 instead of 9:00. Baker/ Or 7:00 AM- Karr/ No, we have a little bit of concern from P/R Department for areas in the city plaza because of maintenance. They maintain the area...clean up between 7:00 and 8:00 .... if it was setting up any earlier than 8:00, they thought there could be a real problem in maintaining that area ..... especially in summer .... Their crews start at 7:00. Baker/ ...not that many people are going to take'advantage of this .... 7:00 to 10:00 seems like a reasonable time...workable. Kubby/ I like that, too. Baker/ Bottom of page 2- Karr/ 7:00 AM to 10:00 Pigott/ ¥eah. Baker/ Amplified sound equipment shall not be permitted. Is that the same thing as saying amplified sound shall not be permitted to be broadcast from the establishment out- Karr/ That is how we have enforced it. Throe/ I don't understand that .... doors to restaurants are open and music is coming out of the doors. Karr/ But it is not amplified out. It is flowing out of the doors. Throg/ It is music coming for the inside .... diversity of sound... Pigott/ I understand some people have concerns in the busines~ This represents one/8 ~essonabl¥ accurate transcription of the Iowa City council meetlng of Februa~,y 27, 1996. WS022795 February 27, 1995 . . Council Work Session Page 12 district...someone elso's noise. Baker/ Your music is somebody else's noise .... concern about amplified ~usic imposed on people who don't want it imposed on them. Karr/ We do that.on a case by case basis in the pedestrian mall now with a sound permit. Baker/ Karr/ We don't do it in the outdoor service areas even'on private property now. It is a prohibition there .... Baker/ .... Concer~ed about the sound being generated somewhere else and piped out or doors open .... Atkins/ The timing on the amplified sound...is really very very important .... It is during the day .... time of day is the thing... after the business, banks, and some of the other folks shut down ..... Baker/ ...compete sound .... Arkins/ Baker/ I would like the committee to think about the time of the regulation or prohibition. Karr/ Larry, are you saying you wish it to be strengthened and not just amplified equipment? But you wish to- Baker/ If you have somebody inside playing an acoustic guitar. It is electronic amplification that is always the problem. Nov/ We have already said here it is not going to be allowed° Why not just leave it that way? Kubby Maybe that is where the noise ordinance kicks in .... Throg/ Wise thing .... with music is let it ride as it has been proposed. See what happens maybe a year from now .... Karr/ Woito/ You don't want it coming out the doors either. Thlsrepra=entaon]y areasona~ly ~cur~e ~scr]p~on of~elowa¢ltycounc~ m=a~ng ofFebma~y27,1995. W$022796 February 27, 1995 . Council Work Session Page 13 Karr/ He doesn't want speakers or anything. Nov/ I don't want any amplified music either. Throg/ I am willing to support that. Kubby/ I.would rather have it'based on time... in the evening .... more acceptable than during regular business hours .... Atkins/ ...doors are going to be open .... Baker/ I am willing to wait and see if it is a problem ..... Karr/'So majority of you just. leave the wording as it is the~. Baker/ Atkins/ Another city had them down below .... a number of ways .... Throg/ Pigott/ Baker/ Page CHANGE-TAPE TO REEL 95-33 SIDE 2 4 .... must have employee hours alcohol Karr/ Yes it does% Throg/ Rather than stuff .... Pigoft/ How do you do that? present at all times during is consumed .... outside? someone waiting...go back inside to get the Karr/ The committee felt very strongly- An employee. Throg/ That is not currently required at the Holiday Inn. Karr/ No but that is on private property. Kpbby/ Karr/ It is the selling to minors and the invitation that perhaps somebody would shar~. Pigott/ I can't see how you really do that .... too difficult. Thio represents only a reasonably accurate t~ansctlption of the low8 City council meeting of February 27, 1995. WS022795 February 27, 1995 Council Work Session Page 14 Kubby/ Karr/ A beer garden or an outdoor service area has the screening and the handing or the sharing ..... But most beer gardens have high fences... Kubby/ The concern is still there... Throg/ It creates an unnecessary burden for any business that wants to do a sidewalk care .... Nov/ It is part of the job...monitor their one service. Throg/ A waiter is going to be there most of the time .... Karr/ Also viewed it as an extension of a business .... you have that responsibility .... Is there four of you that want to strike that...? Nov/ I think it is fine the way it is. Pigott/ Strike it or re-work it. Kubby/ Is there another option for dealing with that concern? Th~og/ Different language .... Baker/ Somebody who is responsible for monitoring the area. That doesn't mean he has to stand there all of the time. Pigott/ Someone is in and out looking. Baker/ .... survey .... allow roll out awnings. Karr/ I think they were talking about the awnings you see on a lot of store fronts .... We do not allow that presently. Pigott/ Throg/ W'ny we don't we ask DR to look at that and consider whether it would be wise to amend the appropriate code? Kubby/ Question #1 about the minimum footage. I guess what I want to go out and do some measurements at some potential sites to make sure if we are going to sure that 8 foot that are these regulations functional. Thisrepresents only araason~bly accur~e ~ansc~p~onofthelowa Clty coun~ mos~ng ofFebmaw27,1995. WS022795 February 27, 1995 . Council Work Session Throg/ Map might tell us ..... Page 15 Karr/ Do you want the map to have the width of the sidewalk? Throg/ I want to be able to see where these- Arkins/ You want some dimensions, okay. Kubby/ Page 3, section #2...notifying property owners. Many of the properties are leased to other businesses. So I would like that notification to go not only to property owners but the lessees..... Nov/ It does say in #3 that it includes the ..... owner and the renter. Kubby/ But not for the abutting property owners .... Under #4 with right to withdraw the license, can the council say no to concerns of abutting property owners or lessees? Woito/ No to the applicant on the basis of objections of the abutting property owner? Karr/ Yes. Woito/ That would be all of the factors you would be looking at. Throg/ .... Page 3, #4...right to withdraw .... Woit0/ Withdraw is the wrong word. We need to change that. Throg/ It seems like such a blanket exception .... real disincentive for purchasing any hardware .... What are the kinds of conditions under which the license might be revoked? Karr/ Public safety .... Throg/ What does that mean? Put some flesh on the bones. Karr/ If they f~iled to repeatedly adhere to the hours ..... Kubby/ R. J., would it state if arrest was made in the indoor versus outdoor section if we did this~.. having that distinction in the future might be helpful to us ..... Atkins/ We could also put'a notice requirement in here .... Thlsrepresen~ only areasona~ly acetate ~ans~lp~on of ~elowa Clty coun~l mealrig ofFebrumy27,1995. WS022795 February 27, i995 . Council Work Session Page 16 Winklehake/ It would be relatiqely easy to have the complaint marked outdoor ..... Kubby/ That would be real helpful. Karr/ Just for the record, it is one liquor license. Throg/ Marian, if you could amend the draft ordinance to specify the types of conditions under which a license would be likely to be withdrawn .... Woito/ Such as...including but not limited to. Pigott/ Is there a fee attached to the licensing? Woito/ Yes, you would just establish that by resolution. Arkins/ They are using the public r.o.w. I think you should. Woito/ Nov/ Charging fees for carts on the plaza .... Kubby/ Who will get the license? Will it come to us or administrative? Throg/ E.2, page 3, refers to city staff. Woito/ It has to come to you. There are some inconsistencies in here that we are going to iron out tomorrow. Karr/ It is recommended because .... liquor license, we would handle it through my office as an extension of a liquor license. We would sign.off by all of the affected departments .... because it is the use of public r.o.w ..... Kubby/ Karr/...letter that we send ..... will be considering this at this meeting. If you would like to send a letter we need it by such and such a date. Woito/ I would suggest these are not on the Consent Calendar because these are not routi~e...i Kubby/ I am not sure why we are restricting this just to these three zones ..... might be some place in a commercial This represents only a reasonably accurate tra~scdptlon of the lows City council rnsotlng of Februmy 27, 1995. WS022795 February 27, 1995 . Council Work Session Page 17 neighborhood zone .... What other zones are restaurants in...? Woito/ Our understanding of the council was you wanted to increase the al~biance of the d.t. and also that there are the properties outside d.t. area have larger sidewalks and larger areas anyway .... Atkins! Exposure in a neighborhood commercial zone .... Nov/ I don't think neighborhood commercial zones have any public sidewalks .... all private .... Eubby/ Maybe the committee could look at that ..... Karr! We did look at that .... We could take a look at some. Arkins! CN-1 zones. We will take a look at it. Kubby/ I guess I would like a listing of what are the zones where restaurants are allowed. Karr! We could go that way .... Kubby/ With these same kinds of...rules should be the same everywhere. Nov/ Kubby/ Arkins/ HyVee serves food outside all of the time .... Karr/ Do you wish these changes to be made prior to the setting of the p.h...? have an accelerated schedule here .... Pigott/ Karr/ You are looking at extending the hours .... extending the zones...adding monitoring provision rather than the full time employee .... woito/ We can get it done. Karr/ I may want to continue the p.h. I don't want to close the p.h. until it is more in final form even if it is less restrictive. This represents only o reasonably accurate transcription. of the lows C~ coencll meeting of February 27, 1996. WS022796 February 27, 1995 . . Council Work Session Page 18 Throg/ If we could get revisions in time- Karr/ In Friday's packet ..... Arkins/ We have a council meeting next week. Kubby/ Karr/ It would be three weeks .... you could continue it. You will be setting a p.h. tomorrow night .... 28th ..... Kubby/ A week isn't very long .... I don't want to feel rushed about it. Karr/ Why don't we see what we can do tomorrow...meeting scheduled at 9:30 ..... Also have discretion of continuing it on March 7 atkins/ Karr/ ..... 6/7-Special work session and formal ~3/14-cancelled 20th-tentative 27/28-work session and formal 29th-water Baker/ I hope we can talk about that 20th...spring break .... Nov/ Sidewalk cafes. Page 1, b., food service menu...does this mean you have to have a printed paper menu...? rule out Great Midwestern ..... Kubby/ Doesn't say menu has to be individual menus? Nov/ How are you defining menu? Karr/ It was originally intended to be a hard copy ..... Pigott/ Menu on wall. Woito/ I would say that qualifies. Nov/ Chalkboard menu...and self service- Karr/ I think it would be okay. Nov/ .... quite a few restaurants self service and have not printed This represents only o reasonably accurate trunacr!ption of the Iowa Ck'y council meeting of February 27, 1996. W$022795 February 27, 1995 . Council Work Session Page 19 menus .... In another spot you say they shall be someone assigned to -serving food. I am assuming that definition includes someone who is standing behind the counter and handing you a sandwich. Kerr! That is correct, yes ..... don't want to do is have one person being the whole operation. NOV/ ...didn't want to eliminate the self service style of restaurants. On page 3, second category for maintenance. I would like those criteria to be under the sidewalk care license ..... I would like to number those 5 & 6 rather than a separate area under maintenance .... Karr/ Under maintenance i & 2, you would like to continue those to 5 & 6. Nov/ I would like to take out the word maintenance and number those 5 & 6 under care iicense because I think those requirements ought to come before you get the license. Pigott/ Sure. Kubby/ Okay. Nov/ That means you put an F. instead of G. in the operations. Was there any business that said to the committee that said I want to do thiso..deterred by the following regulations...? Kerr/ ...an individual..said scratch it and start over, it is not going to help me. Nov/ Karr/ No one had ever applied... it was that the regulations...did not allow them to pursue it .... Kubby/...can we get back to that person. Helpful to say how can we change this to make it work .... Karr/ Sometimes..individuals .... geographic location .... limitation .... Certainly we can get back to them and see if we can be more specific .... minimum width of sidewalk is concern.... Pigott/ Great. Thlsrepresent$on~ ereasonably accurate ~ans~lp~ofi ofthelowa Citycouncll meeting ofFebma~f27,1995. W$022796 ? February 27, 1995 . Nov/ Okay- · Council Work Session Page 20 This represents only a reasonably accurate trm$crlptfon of the Iowa City council meeting of February 27, 1996. W$022796 February 27, 1995 o Council Work Session Page 21 Council Agenda/Time 95-33 S2 1. Baker/ Is there some subtle message...there is no council time on the agenda .... Kubby/ ...I think there is no City Manager time either .... Karr/ We will add it tomorrow. ® Kubby/ Is someone making appointments for us to meet with our delegation in D.C...? I have not .... our staff should do that. We need to have an appointment..° there is enough issues .... Arkins/ Let me check for you on that. Pigott/ Nov/ Kubby/ I had made two suggestions on things to really focus on... 1-To not make the ADA weaker. The other one was to make sure if telephone companies were getting into the cable business...they have to follow the same franchise rules. We haven't really talked... Pigott/ Balanced budget amendment..oshifts the burden... unfunded mandate .... not give you any money toe the states° Throg/ Baker/ Nov/ State of Iowa already requires a balanced budget .... unbalanced anyway. Kubby/ Other thing is to make sure the federal moneys get to the hydraulic professor study for flooding .... talk to Leach about Arkins/ Kubby/ I wanted to get an update on the Pizza Hut sign .... tomorrow night you could mention something about that. Woito/ That was assigned to Pat...she left .... we are pretty busy... wait another month .... 4. Atkins/ I have to court on Thursday...temporary injunction of This represents onl~ a reasonably accurst~ t~m.c~lptlo~ of the iowa City cou;~'mee~ng of February 27. 1995. WS02.2795 February 27, 1995 Council Work Session Page 22 Glasgow's .... I will be gone most of the day .... Baker/ (Can't hear) I think Jim and Ernie are right .... ~ubby/ In the BTC meeting it suggested a joint hearing to be held with the council about franchise stuff. I think that would be a great idea .... I would like to follow through on that. Helling/ Think council is obliged to hold a p.h. on the ordinance...so joining together would eliminate (cantt hear). Pigott/ Excellent idea. 6. Kubby/ (Agenda Consent Calendar,5.g.(4))-Letter from Dan Berry and GerryAmbrose about the sidewalks on the 100 block of Iowa Avenue .... Council on Disability Rights and Education which the city is a member of ..... change the grade or level of sidewalk and then do door ways.,.openings on their own .... look at that issue on Iowa Avenue... change the streetscape on Iowa Ave. I am interested in precursory - Atkins/ I will prepare something for you. Throg/ I would just love to see some trees .... Atkins/ I talked to a couple of planners about it .... We will prepare something for you on that.... Nov/ Which block is this? Atkins/ Iowa Book and Supply, that corner .... 7. Kubby/ (Agenda #18-Resolution naming depository). I need some more explanation .... Arkins/ Banks call .... opens greater investment opportunities for us if they increase their limits .... done in consultation with the banks .... Kubby/ Increasing for fourfold for Norwest...why...? Atkins/ They simply want more of our money .... Kubby/ Atkins/ Those are upper limits .... This ~pressn~ only areasonablyaccurate ~ns=lpfion of~elowaC~tycoundlmaefing ~ Febmmy27,1995. WS022795 February 27, 1995 o Council Work Session Page 23 Nov/ Still Don ¥ucuis decision about which bank gets which amount of money. Arkins/ We call them .... give us an interest rat,...we take the best Kubby/ Open Space Action Plan Committee. There was a d~te in here of February 21 where Hills Bankwas going to be receiving bids...$400,000 bid that was rejected. Is that tzlle and is that the only bid. Arkins/ Give you a capsule of what I know about this. Evidently Hills is taking it-over~..was a bid...how formal ..... I just simply don't know. Kubby/ Is it public knowledge? Arkins/ Gee, I don't know. I can ask. O'Brien property. And the bank has chose not to accept it .... substantial debt... letter for the neighborhood. We have not pursued p~rchase of actual property on the O'brien side...parcel on the other side...Rogers property. I spoke to Karin just late this afternoon .... are we motivated to buy this land. She said to me I am not so sure we want to use public moneys to buy the land .... be able to get the flood plain through the dedication...anyway .... Give me a couple more days. maybe I can get something a little more specific and tell you who said what to whom. Kubb¥/ How can the city facilitate that proparty getting turned over to someone who will act on it...? using staff time to help facilitate communication... Atkins/ Woito/ It would require money in talking to Roger Riley at Kiwanis. Big debt .... Kubb¥/ Woito/ Call Roger, Steve. Arkins/ I will talk to him. Let me prepare kind of an update memo.... Throg/ ...Capitol View .... Thle represents only a reasonMy accurate transcription of the Iowa City counc}l meeting of Februby 27, 1995o WS022795 February 2?, 1995 Council Work Session Page 24 Kubby/ Pictures in Longfellow Newsletter were pretty good... re- rod...erosion. We will get you a memo updating you on that. Nov/ $400,000 was rejected... O'Brien/ He is in real deep on that... Throg/ Originally hoped that'council would be interested in adopting a resolution opposing the death penalty .... there would not be four people in support of doing that kin4 of resolution .... What I brought with me and I gave each of you a copy is a proposed letter that simply says .... opposed death penalty... I think all I am suggesting here is that...any of you...as individual member of the city council...invite you to joiq me in signing it. I guess I would ask Marian if there is more than one person..makeup a real version of this on city letterhead .... Baker / I have a problem using city latterhead unless you have four people... Nov/ I would not put it on city letterhead .... send this individually from each person .... Baker/ Unless there is a majority of council it shouldn't be on city stationary. Kubby/ If Jim wants to write a letter .... Atkins/ ...he is not speaking for you but identifying the fact that he is a member of the city council... Baker/ Atkins/ Kubby/ Do I have permission to steal some of your language...? Throg/ .... Atkins/ As long as the letter does not express policy as a city council. You can certainly express yourself as a member of the city council. Baker/ ... Karr/ So one letter for...three signatures. This ropres~nts only a raason~bly accurate tryinscription of the Iowa City council ma.~Jng of Febru~W 27, 1995, W8022755 February 27, 1995 . . Council Work Session Page 25 Throg/ That sounds good. Thanks... 10. Throg/ (Agenda #5.g.(6)-Letter from Ed Barker regarding water/wastewater issues.) Interested in Ed Barker's letter ..... Seems to combine some financing possibilities... appealing... Atkin~/ We are going to prepare a response .... 11. Throg/ Tap on fee. I know that you are doing something. Woito/ I have a draft. Throg/ A key element, from my point of view, is to incorporate into the tap on fee the actual estimated cost of the water and wastewater systems that are directly a consequence of growth Woito/ After I do a draft...we had better sit down and chat .... run through some of this. Throg/ Okay. 12. Karr/ 15b, CCN Vacancy. Neglected to add four males and six females presently are on the Commission .... Kubby/ Will Sue be here tomorrow night...? Nov/ 13. Woito/ I have one thing on the conflict of interest memo. There were a couple of pages that were missing ..... pass these around ..... page breaks screwed up ..... Karen and I have talked...other people have raised about five more scenarios...more complicated than the marriage... revised version later .... Oral version .... outside agencies... Baker/ Woito/ Mary Ann Dennis problem .... Baker/ Woito/ The memo from Marianne Milkman and I don't agree with that then they can't do anything .... Baker/ It was confusing to me .... Th~ repr~=ntson~ areasonab[yaccu~e~anscdpfion ~elowaCItycoun~l m=e~ngofFebmary27,1995. WS022795 February 27, 1995 . . Council Work Session Page 26 Woito/ Came out of one sentence .... matter of taking a few facts..changing them... very different result. 14. Arkins/ Friday, March 17 is Green Day at the Civic center .... magazine recycling .... Adjourned: 8:35 PM Thtsrepreeent$onlyareason~lyaccurate~scdp~onof~elowaCt{y coun~lmee~ngofFebmary27,1996. WS022796