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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2004-11-16 Transcription #2 Page 1 ITEM 2 PROCLAMATION a. Family Week - November 21-27, 2004 Lehman: (reads proclamation) Karr: Here to accept the proclamation is Brian Johns, representing the Church of Jesus Christ Latter Day Saints. (applause) Johns: I know you've got a long meeting, but Ijust wanted to take a minute or two and thank you. First, I want you to know that I represent not just the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. We have others here from other faiths, and many who aren't here from other faiths, who share a concern and love for families. So, on behalf of all of us, thank you, Mayor Lehman and the City Council, for this proclamation. As you know, Governor Vilsack also signed a proclamation proclaiming Family Week next week in the State ofIowa. My wife and I have three girls. We're all here tonight, and it's easy to get just a little frightened when we look at, when I look at raising a family in the world these days. There are a lot of bad things, drugs, alcohol abuse, and things that, the list could be uglier and longer I suppose, but there are a lot of good things, and we believe that families ordained of God, and that happiness in marriage and family life is most likely to be achieved when founded on our principles of faith and love and compassion and forgiveness, work, and wholesome recreational activities. Not only that, but as one author put it, "Happy families are our greatest national resource, and ordinary families are extraordinarily important to our communities and our country." And I just had one idea or suggestion that we've done in our family, and that's to take one night a week and just devote it to families. Don't schedule other things that night. Spend time together. Play. Teach. Nurture. Enjoy being together, and I believe, and I know from personal experience, that just that one thing will do a lot to strengthen the bonds oflove and the ties that bind our families together. On behalf of all of us again, I want to thank you. Thank you in particular for the efforts that you give in developing policies that are friendly towards families and making them the fundamental unit of our society. Again, sincerely, thank you. (applause) Lehman: Thank you. We do need to keep the door open. If you folks would move over, just along the wall. Sir.. . yeah, just move up the wall a little bit. So the door is open for the fire code. Thank you. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #2 Page 2 ITEM 2 PROCLAMATION b. Hunger and Homelessness Awareness Week - November 14-20, 2004 Lehman; (reads proclamation) Karr: Here to accept the proclamation is Ruth Beyerhelm, Local Homeless Coordinating Board. (applause) Beyerhelm: Hi. I'm Ruth Beyerhelm, and I am one of the many members of the Johnson County Local Homeless Coordinating Board, a group that gets together once a month from agencies around town that deal with hunger and homelessness on a daily basis, and we work together to try and coordinate our services so that we're not duplicating each other, and we are, as I'm finding out, I'm relatively new to the Board, finding out that there are a group of really strong advocates for hunger and for homelessness issues that affect our community drastically. I would invite you to come to any of our meetings. I think it's the second Tuesday of every month, here in this room. Just to give you an example of what we do, we are meeting next month with representatives from the University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics. Their Social Work Department, because we're having some difficulties with homeless people kind of falling through the cracks, when they're released from the hospital. We're working together to try and solve that problem. So, I'm excited about the work of the Board, and I thank you so much for acknowledging these issues that affect so many people in our community, and for supporting us in our work. Thanks a lot. (applause) This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #2 Page 3 ITEM 2 PROCLAMATION c. National Hospice Month - November 2004 Lehman: (reads proclamation) Karr: Here to accept the proclamation is Hospice volunteer Ann Sullivan. (app lause ) Sullivan: I just want to thank you on behalf of the Iowa City Hospice. I think it's a wonderful organization that touches the lives of probably everyone here at some time, and we hope that people will become aware, help in any way that they can, and again, we'd like to thank the City ofIowa City for the recognition. (applause) Lehman: Thank you. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #3 Page 4 ITEM 3 OUTSTANDING STUDENT CITIZENSHIP AWARD- Mark Twain Elementary and Shimek Elementary Lehman: The next item on the agenda is, this is the fun time -- Outstanding Student Citizenship Awards. If the folks from Mark Twain would come up, please. (applause) You know, we've been doing this for a lot of years, and we have a lot more fun doing it. You guys probably appreciate this, don't you? Not near as much as we appreciate giving it. This is really an important part of our Council meeting, and we're all proud that you're here. And I think there's some folks out there that are really proud too, so, if you would give your name and then why you have been nominated. Spears: My name is Tristan Spears. When I think of the word citizen, I think of helping others, being responsible, and caring about where you live and the environment around you. The ways I try to be a good citizen are participating in student council for three years, and from that working with other kids to help make the community better. I also participate in playing the cello and soccer, outside of school. With this, I'd like to thank the City Council and my teachers for this award. (applause) Martinez: Abel Martinez. When I think of being a citizen, I think of helping other people, cooperating with people in the community, and being involved at school with fundraisers. The ways I try to be a good citizen are participating in fundraisers set up by the student council, doing my best on my schoolwork, and participating in tae kwon do outside of school. Thank you, City Council, for this award. (applause) Risk: Hi, my name is Evan Risk. I am a 6th grader at Mark Twain School. I was picked from my class for the Good Citizenship A ward. Outside of school, I do extra activities such as baseball, basketball, and cello. Inside of school, I also do activities, such as my fourth year of conflict manager, and my third year of patrol. I especially like working with little kids. I would like to thank my teacher, and the City Council for this award. (applause) Lehman: I'm going to read one ofthese. (reads award; applause) We're twice as lucky tonight because we get Shimek as well. So the folks from Shimek come forward. You know, while these kids are reading why they're nominated, it's kind of cool just to sit out there and think if you could honestly say what they're saying. I mean, this is pretty cool stuff. (laughter) We're not scared, are we? No one has ever bitten anybody. We've always had fun. Okay, I'm going to let you start. Give us your name and why you were nominated. Rocklin: Good evening, my name is Noah Rocklin. I would like to talk about my citizenship, specifically my role as citizen of my school, class, and family. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #3 Page 5 In my school, I am a member of the school safety patrol, a group of volunteers who promise to enforce school rules and do (can't understand). I frequently get requests from other students in relation to homework and other assignments. When helping my classmates and friends, I try to be clear, as clear and kind as possible. I also help my family with such things as helping keep my room neat, the dog walked, and dishes clean. All of these things are small, but I would like to believe that they just trying to help, no matter how little or big, is the mark of a good citizen. (applause) Zalesky: Hello, my name is Nicolette Zalesky and I'm a 6th grader at Shimek Elementary. The reason I think I was nominated for this award is because I'm responsible, and not only did my teachers nominate me, but also my peers. At this time my friends and I are starting to raise money for the Animal Shelter, and in the past I have raised money for the Ronald McDonald House. I also baby-sit, am on school patrol, the green team, and I help tutor at school. I would like to thank my friends and my family, and the people who nominated me for this award. Thank you. (applause) Bodnarek: Hello, my name is Kennedy Bodnarek. I see citizenship not only as a right but a privilege. I know this for a fact because my family moved to the U.S. eight years ago, and we still have three more years to wait before we can apply to become American citizens. I was selected for this award because I contribute back to my community by caring about the future. I have served meals to college kids at my church, volunteered to baby-sit at weekly bible study; I'm a member of green team, which helps make the world and the environment around our school more beautiful. I'm a member of Youth Group, which not only cares about the future of us children on earth, but once we have passed away, accepted Christ, and gone to heaven. Sometimes I help my friends out with helping them with homework. And also sometimes after school I walk younger children home from the bus. I hope that one day I can become a citizen of the United States. Thank you. (applause) Lehman: I think the future's in pretty good hands. Thank you, folks, very, very much. (applause) This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #4 Page 6 ITEM 4 CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED OR AMENDED g. Correspondence 1. JCCOG Traffic Engineering Planner: Change NO PARKING 8AM to 6 PM MON-FRI to NO PARKING ANY TIME signs on the south side of ßrookland Park Drive Champion: Move adoption of 4. g. 1. Karr: 4.g.9? Champion: Oh, yeah. Lehman: Okay, we have a motion by Champion; seconded by O'Donnell, for adoption of 4. g. 9., which is the Brookland Park Drive parking change. Discussion? I think there may be, yes, please. If you wish to speak to Council, come to the podium, sign in, give your name, and your comment. Leonard: I'm Paul Leonard. I'm a resident at 506 Brookland Park Drive. The few points I wanted to make about this, the issue is whether this is part-time or full time no parking, and I strongly favor the full time no parking, as a resident of this area. This is an abnormally narrow street. It also comes up to a sharp corner with Brookland Place. When there are parked cars on Brookland Park Drive, you can come up to that comer very abruptly, with little or no warning ofthe car in the intersecting direction. Our driveway, and we actually share this driveway with other residents in the area, so it's more than one house worth of driveway, also makes part of that intersection, so there are several comings and goings coming up to this intersection, and when there are parked cars, the lane oftraffic, the east bound lane on Brookland Park Drive, is essentially over in the west bound lane, and you've got cars coming at each other in unexpected places with very little warning. This is a bit exacerbated, frankly, because we're a mixed neighborhood, by which I mean we have some younger, less experienced drivers, don't know quite how fast cars can come out of nowhere, and come up on that corner quickly. Second of all, this is a street with no sidewalks on either side. So, the pedestrians are out in the street. I'm one of those pedestrians every day when I walk to work, so that particular thing is a very personal issue for me. I know that there was a safety assessment made, which I'm assuming considered the passage of emergency vehicles on this very narrow street. The concern that I have about this is that in the real world, it's hard to enforce parking laws exactly. Is that car nine feet from the curb, or is it eleven, or nine feet from the corner, eleven feet. Is it one a half feet from the curb, or is it two and a half feet. And without such rigid enforcement, things that in an ordinary street might not be a problem, are going to quickly become a This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #4 Page 7 problem in terms of passage of emergency vehicles. So, as a real world matter, as opposed to the idealized world where cars park exactly eleven inches from the curb, I think that really it is a significant safety issue. Thank you very much. Lehman: Thank you. Karr: Mr. Mayor, just for the record, it's 4. g. 1. is the memo. 4. g. 9. is the letter dealing with the matter, but 4. g. 1. is the item we are considering at this time. Lehman: All right. Noted. Any other discussion? Manriquez: My name is Joe Manriquez. I'm a resident of 404 Melrose Court. I live with myself and two other roommates in a duplex there, and we, the parking issue is the toughest issue that we face living where we live. We share a driveway with the residents ofthe other side ofthe duplex. So all three of our cars are stacked one on top of the other, and there's no parking on the street from 8 to 6 during the day. So when we have maintenance men come, like we had last week, it's a pain. We had to park on the lawn so the maintenance man could get into our driveway so he would have some place to park during the day. At night, when people are coming or going, and we have friends or family that want to come to our house, or study groups, or anything of the like, they usually park on the side of the street. During the day, it's completely open from 8 to 6. Let's see. I guess the width of the street, this summer there was a lot of construction on the street, and the street was widened, and parking is probably, like I said, the biggest issue we face every day just living where we live. And I strongly urge you to keep it open just as far as living with our neighbors, there's nowhere to park within, I don't even know, a mile of our house, if we didn't have this side street. Every day when parking is allowed on the side street, it's just a lot on one side of the street, and there's not a lot on the other. So, we park our cars right next to the curb there, and I haven't had any trouble. Not that I'm an expert, but I haven't had any trouble driving up and down the street at all. And there was a safety report and we did receive that letter, and the letter said that there wasn't a safety issue, wasn't a safety concern. I don't know what goes into assessing that situation, but I assume they probably took into account emergency vehicles. I think a little bit, ifthere are some concerns, I know we have neighbors that try to enforce the 8 to 6 no parking every day. I know I've been out there about 8: 1 0, and talking to a police officer in the morning and left my car there over night, and he said 'you know somebody called the police and had you ticketed' and I would just suggest, we live on the opposite side of this gentleman. He's down the street from us. I don't know. If a car's there in the morning that needs to be moved, I would suggest maybe continuing to call the police if it's that This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #4 Page 8 close, and I think that's about all I have. I don't think it's a huge problem, and I'm sorry that we had to come here to discuss it. We weren't invited to the Neighborhood Association's so we had no opportunity to discuss it with our neighbors previously. Thank you. Lehman: Thank you. Diehl: My name's Paul Diehl. My wife and I live at 513 Brookland Park Drive, and I wanted to address some ofthe issues that the other Paul addressed, and some of the issues that have been raised by our neighbor on the corner. This summer the street was repaved for the first time and well, in my experience. We've lived there almost thirty years and it's probably the first time it was repaved since it was laid back in the mid-twenties. As a result ofthat, it was repaved because they were separating the sanitation sewer from the storm sewer, which had been combined and that created basement problems, which thankfully we're not here to discuss with you tonight. As a part of that sewer project, curbs were put on the street, and they never had curbs before. So the parking is dramatically impacting the width ofthe street. I can prove that by the improvement of my yard. I would have people parking a foot and a half to two feet up on the yard because there was no curb or any barrier to keep them from doing that, and that allowed a wider street. There's no, as Paul pointed out earlier, there are no sidewalks for pedestrians to use on that street. It is a major flow-through, just like Brookland Park, just like Melrose Court is a flow- through. There are people that have disabilities that use that street. Mothers that push strollers that use that street. Bicyclists, one uni-cyclist, which is interesting, and others, just ordinary pedestrians, and let me tell you, if there are cars parked on that street, when you are pulling out of a driveway, you cannot see them. Now, the response that I got to that when I contacted the City street engineers was 'you need to be more careful backing out of your own driveway', and I take that on my self as my responsibility. But as you know, we're a town of visitors. And we're in the football stadium area, and our driveway is used a lot to make wide turns. Somebody pulls into our driveway quickly, and backs out quickly, and cars are parked on both sides of our driveway, they will not see the people that they're going to hit, and occasionally I go out in my wheelchair. They're not going to see me. Although I'm trying to see them, because I don't want to prove our point by being a victim here. So, that safety issue to me is a very limited safety determination. If you mean by safety issue the street passes because emergency vehicles can get down it, I can't address that. Perhaps I can. Paul addressed the theoretical world versus the real world, but there are safety issues far beyond those, and those involve not being able to see the people that are using the street because they cannot use sidewalks that are not there. Now, added to that is the other issue, which is increasingly dangerous since last summer, of the intersection of Brookland Park Drive and Brookland Place. With cars This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #4 Page 9 parked on the south side of Brookland Park Drive, cars coming around the corner from Brookland Place, on to Brookland Park Drive, stay in their lane, but cars that are going east on Brookland Park Drive have to get into the left lane to get around the parked cars, and from the direction of Brookland Place, it looks like a curve. From the standpoint of Brook land Park Drive, it looks like a comer. It is a very strange place, and it is no place to have cars further complicating this issue, where there are two driveway shared by at least four residences. So given all those safety concerns, given the fact that all of us have parking issues, we have a long driveway. The length of our lot, and we have to move cars out of the way all the time when we have friends and we use it ourselves, and it's up to the residents to provide parking, and the residents on the comer with the duplex provide six parking spaces, including their garage, and perhaps another on the alley, which I'm less sure about. So, it seems to me that the overriding safety concerns versus the need for parking is the central issue here. Thank you. Lehman: Thank you. Walker: Hi, I'm Jean Walker, and I live in the Melrose Neighborhood. I'd just like to underline that it is very narrow street, and so with the parking on one side, it does make it very difficult to back out safely, and then when there is snow, ifthere are cars parked along the street and the snow plow can't remove that snow, and so that makes it even narrower because a foot of snow along the cars, as well; and then I won't repeat anything that the other neighbors have said, but I just want, I had a question and that is already there is a discrepancy between one end of Brookland Park Drive and the other. The west end, it is no parking during the day, 8 to 5, 9 to 5, something like that, but on the east end of Brookland Park Drive, it says no parking during that time Monday through Friday, so more parking is allowed on the east end of Brookland Park Drive than on the west end, where it looks as though the street is more open. So I had that question of the discrepancy, as well as the comments that the neighbors have said. Thank you. Lehman: Thank you. Parker: Good evening members ofthe Council. My name is Eric Parker, and I live with Mr. Manriquez at 404 Melrose Court. Ijust had a couple things. First of all, you know, thanks for taking the time to hear a parking issue. Champion: It's a major issue all over. (laughter) Parker: When we were informed ofthe change, I called Anissa Williams down at City Hall, and she informed me that they sent out a survey and they had done the safety issue, or the safety issue study, and that there was no This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #4 Page 10 problem with that. Obviously, more safety issues have been brought up by our neighbors. She also informed me that the initial complaint went through the Melrose Neighborhood Association, and that our rep is Ms. Walker, and I got a chance to talk to her the other day, and I asked her if she could give me the names of the folks that were in favor of this, and she said she'd have to get back to me. Because it would be much better if we could resolve some ofthe issues dealing with the parking in a neighbor-to- neighbor kind of way, instead of in Council Chambers, and she got back to me and she said that no one thought it would be advantageous to speak to us before that. So this is the first time, us that are opposed to this resolution, we've heard the other side, which is unfortunate that we couldn't understand both sides a little bit better. You know, basically it comes down, it's something that I'm sure the Council is used to balancing the interest of renters versus permanent residents, and how bad this issue really is, is kind of, I think what you've heard kind of inflicts the issue. I took, I kept track of how many cars were on the street this week. On Tuesday, we had two cars overnight; Wednesday we had three; Thursday we had two; Friday we had two; and Saturday we had six. So, again, it's just a balancing act that you folks are going to have to see both sides and make your decision. Just a couple more things. Changing the parking on Brookland Park Drive will seriously inconvenience me and my roommates, you know, as Joe said, we rely on the on-street parking on nights and weekends for ourselves and visitors, our parents, study groups, etc. You know, it would certainly be different if we were one or two car households, like most of our neighbors. Instead on our side, like was brought up, we have three parking spots and we have three cars, which would seem to be adequate, but the closest parking spot for anyone to come visit us, is, we're not really sure how far away, aside from the parking ramp, and that's just a huge inconvenience, and you have to weigh that against the safety issue. Just a couple more notes that have been brought up. I would argue that Brookland Park Drive is not a major through street. The stop sign on Greenwood and Myrtle limits the traffic to only come in from one direction, so you kind of have it, kind of mitigated there. The big thing is certainly game day, six or seven times a year when we have traffic all over the place, and everyone has to deal with it. We don't have alley parking at our place, and it's just, like he said, the safety issues versus the inconvenience issue, and you're just going to have to weigh that as to how it works out. Some great stuff tonight, but I'd encourage you to vote against it, but I also think some great arguments have been made on the other side. So, thanks. Lehman: Thank you. Council, discussion? Champion: Well, I think this is one of those golden opportunities again where if we had neighborhood parking stickers, we could solve this problem by allowing parking on one side of the street, twenty-four hours a day, and This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #4 Page 11 then you have little passes you give your guests that they have to take our to their car and put on the windshield. We've talked about doing this kind of thing. This is a perfect solution to this problem. The reason there is no parking is because University students park there all the time, and the neighborhood never gets to use the parking. It's just too close to the University. So, I'm not going to support this, but I support the problems the neighborhood is having, and I don't know if other Council members are interested, but I think that is a perfect solution to this problem, and I know Regenia has mentioned that she would be interested in talking about it, and I think we could do it relatively quickly, and designate a couple of neighborhoods that are real handicapped with parking. So that's where I'm going to stand on this. I'm going to push that we do that for this neighborhood, and for part ofthe north side neighborhoods, as well, which would solve their safety issues and not punish renters, and I think it is a punishment for renters because they're doubling up usually and ifthey have guests, there really isn't any place to park over there. There's nowhere. O'Donnell: And I agree with Connie. I'd like to suggest we defer this until 12/7, so we can have further discussion on it. Lehman: Is there a second to defer? Elliott: I would second that. Lehman: We have a motion and a second to defer. All in favor? Opposed? Elliott: I would like to suggest that we do have what I understand is a strong neighborhood association there. I think one of the best things, Connie, I'm glad you're feeling better, but I do disagree with you on part (laughter). Champion: As usual! (laughter) Elliott: It would ease things immensely if the neighborhood association could come back and give something to us that the neighborhood itself agrees on would be the best way to resolve this, in fairness to all ofthe residents. Lehman: I would suggest that, Eric, you call and discuss this with your neighbors, but we'll have it again on the ih. I would like to go out and take a little tour, personally, and look at it. I think you can expect us to do something either positive or negative on it December ih. Okay. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #5 Page 12 ITEM 5 COMMUNITY COMMENT Walker: This might be on the agenda, but the mountain lions. I know. . . Lehman: We do not have mountain lions on our agenda. Walker: It's not on the agenda? Lehman: No, so if you want to talk about mountain lions, you can talk about mountain lions. Walker: Oh, I'll wait until it will come up on the agenda. Lehman: It's not on the agenda. Walker: Under correspondence? Lehman: Yeah, but that's not an agenda item. Walker: Oh, okay. So, sorry. It's just that I know that the City Council received a letter from a person living in University Heights, and Ijust wanted to express my concern about what has happened to other various mountain lions that have been found in the state. They have either been run over, or shot, and I had talked with Misha Goodman and she had described the character ofthe mountain lion and that it really tries to be elusive and it's not going after people, etc. Now I understand that obviously a mountain lion in a city is bad news, but I wish that there would be some sort of work that could be done with the DNR to find some sort of solution so that there's not carnage of the mountain lion, and also in regards to that, whether there could be some sort of information that could be given to the public about mountain lions and what one would need to do if you came across one, etc., just for information for the public. So, thank you. Lehman: Thank you. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #6 Page 13 ITEM 6 PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS b. Changing the Zoning Designation from Medium Density Single- Family Residential (RS-8) and Neighborhood Conservation Residential (RNC-12) to Medium Density Single-Family Residential/Historic Preservation Overlay (RS-8/0HP) and Neighborhood Conservation Residential/Historic Preservation Overlay (RNC-12/0HP) to Designate the Ronalds Street Extension of the Brown Street Historic District 1) Public Hearing Lehman: Public hearing is open. Maharry: Good evening, my name is Michael Maharry. I live five blocks away on College Street, and it's wonderful to be able to walk down here to Council Chambers on a nice night, and see wonderful young civic leaders as well. I am the Chair of the Historic Preservation Commission, and would like to present for your consideration the Ronalds Street Extension to the Brown Street Historic District. I think if there were a showcase of what a historic district can do for a neighborhood, Brown Street, as well as Summit Street, I think, would be very good examples. The Commission feels that this expansion fits in very nicely to the current district and recommends its approval. Now, a little bit about the district, briefly. There are fifty-nine homes in this area, and according to our Historic Preservation architect, who prepared this survey, 94% of these buildings are deemed historically significant. The oldest one being built in 1847, so that is 157 years old. That is at 614 N. Johnson Street. In this district, there are eight different architectural styles and forms in the homes, and this area of town represented two important aspects of Iowa City history. Number one, as you might imagine, the growth ofthis area parallels the growth of the University ofIowa, and number two, it's actually a very important area of Bohemian American settlements. Goodtown, mind you, is the most prominent Bohemian area in Iowa City. I would be very neglectful if I did not mention that, and so would the residents of Goosetown. They would remind me of that. But Ronalds Street is also very quite important for Bohemian American settlement in Iowa City. A listing of occupations of some of these early neighbors is quite revealing. Lawrence Denniny was an engineer for the Burlington to Cedar Rapids and Northern Railways companies, circa 1860, and he lived at 613 E. Ronalds. Margaret Cannon was a child welfare nurse at the State University ofIowa around 1919. So there were English professors, grocers, retired farmers, widows, butchers, bakers, but no candlestick makers that lived in the district, as well. Twenty-eight homes as you may have seen on your maps, it's marked with an asterisk, and those are homes that were deemed key properties and are of such quality that individually they are eligible for listing on the National Register of Historic Places. So that fact, along with the This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #6 Page 14 previously mentioned 94% of the total homes found to be historically significant, was evidence for the Historic Preservation Commission on September 7th, to vote six to zero to send it forward to the Planning and Zoning Commission. On October ih, they approved it, seven to zero, to recommend that finding it, that it was consistent with the City's Comprehensive Plan. So with that, I will either answer your questions or have other people speak if they would. Lehman: Thank you, Mike. Ponto: Good evening, my name is Jim Ponto. I live at 618 Brown Street. My wife and I have lived in Iowa City about twenty-five years. More than ten years ago we moved to Brown Street, for a large number of reasons. Predominantly it was just the character of the place. We just loved it. A great place to raise kids, and so on. Over the last ten years or so that we've lived there, we've noticed not only maintenance, but improvement of the street, and we feel that is in large part due to it being a historic preservation district. There's not a lot of turnover of property on Brown Street, but in the last ten years there have been, and I've been very pleased to see that many of those properties have been purchased by families with young kids, and so there's an influx of youth, and I think that the appealing aspects of being in a historic preservation district are what drive people and want people to live there. I think Ronalds Street extension is very logical and it's a nice fit, and I think would be a wonderful addition. I urge you to vote for it. Thank you. Lehman: Thank you. Burford: My name is Helen Burford, and I live at 604 Ronalds Street, and my house was built my Leo Grimm, who was a postal worker, and if we become a historic district, it will be one of the key structures in the district. And I'd like to thank you for this opportunity to consider creating this district and the extension to Brown Street. As I speak tonight, I realize what is valuable to one person might not be valuable to another. However, my family and I value historic towns and we view the north side as a historic neighborhood. There are many features of this area that are important to us. It's not just our home. It's important that it's a compact area. It's important that it's walkable to downtown. It's important that it's walkable to the University. It's important that it's a mixed-use area. That there are stores in the area. It's important to us that there's a diverse range of housing in the area. Not every house is four bedrooms, some are two, some are just for one person. It's also for us that it's transit friendly, that the bus is there. It's easy to get around. Meet the people on the streets who live there. We enjoy the tree-lined streets. We like the broad range of styles and sizes of the houses, not (TAPE ENDS) There are homes that are there from the 1950's. We enjoy also living among students, This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #6 Page 15 professionals, older people. Basically what it is, it's the quality of life in the area that really is important to us, and I think that's in large part because of the fabric ofthe community. But part of the quality ofthis neighborhood are the homes, and historic buildings again are the fabric of the community. It's our responsibility, and I take it as my personal responsibility, to respect the craftsmanship of the people who built these homes. I also know that there have been lots of issues about 'is this infringing upon my rights' but the community already enforces building codes. This is an ancient tradition from the Babylonians, and being asked to consider one or two more steps in how I take care of my home, or what I do for the community, really is no impediment to me. I see lots of benefits from having this area as part of the Iowa City community historic district. I think it's important to underscore a sense of history for Iowa City. I also see it as a way of reinvesting in the community where there are lots of people here who are trades people, and this gives them opportunities to work in the community on restoration projects, just generating local employment. I believe it also enhances recruitment to Iowa City. I also believe it attracts people who are looking for cultural institutions and art institutions, and most importantly as a neighborhood, I want you to know that I went door to door to talk to people on Ronalds Street to see if they would come this evening to show you their support. There really is a lot of support within the neighborhood for having the area become a historic district. Not everybody was able to come tonight, but I'm sure you know and you can see, that there have been letters written by people in the community, so this is a concept that I hope you'll be able to support. Lehman: Thank you. Pubic hearing is closed. Karr: Motion to accept correspondence. Lehman: I'm sorry. Karr: Correspondence, please. Lehman: Motion and a second. All in favor? Vanderhoef: So moved. O'Donnell: Second. Lehman: All in favor? Opposed? A motion? 2) Consider an Ordinance (First consideration) Bailey: Move first consideration. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #6 Page 16 Wilburn: Second. Lehman: Moved by Bailey; seconded by Wilburn. Discussion? Elliott: As the senior member of this group in terms of age, I think it's interesting to me, at least, to point out that forty years ago when I was working on the local paper, the Brown Street area was considered by many to be a blighted area, and I just second what some of these folks have said that historic preservation has done for that area, so I certainly will be voting in favor of this. I do have some mixed emotions. We did receive a letter from a woman who identified herself as owner of a property that is an appendage to this. It kind of hangs down in a peculiar location, and it seemed to me that it would be appropriate to eliminate that house, but I was informed that some feel it has historic significance and more important than that, I don't think there's anyone else on the Council who would agree with me, so I will be voting in favor of this. Lehman: Okay, let's see how the rest of us vote. Roll call. Motion carries. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #6 Page 17 ITEM 6 PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS c. Consider a Resolution Approving the Preliminary Plat of Saddlebrook Meadows, Part 1 (SUB04-00030) Wilburn: Move adoption of the resolution. O'Donnell: Second. Lehman: Moved by Wilburn; seconded by O'Donnell. Discussion? Karin? I just wanted to wish you a very happy birthday, from all of us. Franklin: Thank you. Lehman: I feared that perhaps you would leave after the P&Z items and we wouldn't have the opportunity to express our good wishes. Discussion folks? Roll call. Motion carries. This represents only a reasonably accnrate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #7 Page 18 ITEM 7 CONSIDER A RESOLUTION SETTING DATES OF A CONSULTATION AND PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED AMENDMENT NO.1 TO THE NORTHGATE CORPORATE PARK URBAN RENEWAL PLAN FOR THE CITY OF IOWA CITY Vanderhoef: Move the resolution. Bailey: Second. Lehman: Moved by Vanderhoef; seconded by Bailey. Discussion? Vanderhoef: This is something that just is going to enhance our city in that it keeps some industrial, light commercial out in that area, and certainly we have had people come to Council recently that were looking for places to buy out in that area. So, I'm delighted to make this part of the district. Lehman: Right. This is active rather than reactive. Which is good. Other discussion? Roll call. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #8 Page 19 ITEM 8 CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 5, "BUSINESS AND LICENSE REGULATIONS," CHAPTER 2, "VEHICLES FOR HIRE," SECTION 5-2-8 "VEHICLE FOR HIRE REQUIRE- MENTS," OF THE CITY CODE BY DELETING (B) "DISTINCTIVE COLOR SCHEME REQUIRED" AND REPLACING IT WITH A NEW (B) "DISTINCTIVE COLOR SCHEME REQUIRED" TO CLARIFY LANGUAGE (SECOND CONSIDERATION) Vanderhoef: Move second consideration. Lehman: Moved by Vanderhoef. O'Donnell: Second. Lehman: Seconded by O'Donnell. Discussion? Hatch: Yes, I have some discussion. My name is Tom Hatch. I'm the owner of IC Cab, and okay, I'd like to submit that there's a whole bunch of stuff here that maybe isn't apparent on the surface level, but once you dig a little bit deeper. There's all sorts of consequences to taking this action, under the proposed action. One, how many colors do. . . the language is a distinctive color. Well, what do we mean by distinctive? Are we talking about pearl, eggshell, white.. .that's the first thing. Second thing is, that there's.. and this affects at least three cab companies that I know in town, and ours in particular, but there's another cab company, as well as us, where 90% of our car is white. Okay? Who's going to decide, or what mechanism is there going to be to decide, who gets white? Is it going to be a coin toss? Rock, scissors, paper? I'm thinking of a number between one and ten? You know, it would be arbitrary, and you know, while I'm not a lawyer and I didn't spend last night at the Holiday Inn Express, I can say that if! was on the short end of that stick, I'd be seeking counsel. The other thing is, there's plenty of cities in this country where there's one color for cab companies. You look out in the street, and that is it's yellow. Hello! How do they deal with the confusion? I mean, (can't hear). And I further this a bit, that if this was systematically chaotic, you'd have probably heard from our friends in Coralville, where, and I'll get to this in a minute, as far as the licensing goes, that process is far simpler. Okay? There's inefficiencies in the way that the cab business here is regulated. What's not regulated, interestingly enough, is hours of operation, I mean, how many hours can you sit behind the wheel not regulated? What do you charge for fare? Not regulated. And unlike anybody else in the transportation business, no D.O.T. physical. No random urinalysis. No anything. All that's unregulated. Okay? What is regulated, and I would submit that it's a duplication of effort on a number oflevels. Every year in the City ofIowa City, if you own a cab company or if you drive for one, This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #8 Page 20 you need one of these. Your cab badge. $7.50 at the City Clerk's office. To get one, you need a D.C.I. background investigation every year. Okay, it seems to me that this is information readily accessible by a couple keystrokes to begin with. Ditto, your motor vehicle record, every year to get this, and it gives something readily accessible with a couple keystrokes. Now, to make it even more, I don't want to be too vitriolic of this, but Romper Room-esq. Okay, you then have to take that information and copy it onto two special pieces of paper that the City provides you with; one green one and one white one. Okay? Now there's certainly, you know, legitimate issues in regulating who drives a cab. Okay? Lehman: We're really dealing with colors on the cabs, is what we're talking about. Hatch: The colors on the cab, this is what I'm saying, okay? I don't know where the confusion is coming from, frankly. The third shift police officers we deal with? The convenience store.. . you know the adults who are sober downtown at night, okay? The convenience store clerks; the rest of the cab companies, even the inebriates who are jumping in, which is primarily the, I mean, 80% of our business is in 20% of the (can't understand), is what it amounts to, and it's usually downtown. It's usually late. And it comes from the periphery. It comes to the center, and it goes in the opposite order late at night when the bar close. There's no confusion there. Okay? So I submit that there's a whole host of issues that are brought up by what seems like a fairly innocuous change in the regulation. And for that matter, you know, like I say, the biggest problem I have is that if you've priced a paint job on a car lately, it looks like it's about $3,000 bucks, so times, one times two times three, and I would suggest that there's all sorts of things that can be done to the cab regulation and it maybe wouldn't be a bad idea ifthere was a committee established to go over some of this. For example, the City ofIowa City requires $1 million in General Liability. Lehman: We're only talking about colors. Hatch: I understand all this, but what I'm saying is there's plenty of the regulations that should be revisited, but by comparison, that's $250,000 to Cedar Rapids, it's $300,000 to Waterloo. That's a real cost. Okay? There's not enough margin to begin with here, you know, and to put this further burden on, it affects like I said at least three companies that are straight cab companies, and I think it would also affect, and I'm not sure exactly, a number of the airport shuttle services, as well. So I would submit that maybe we should talk about this a little bit more. Maybe if we got a committee together to go over the cab regulation in its totality. That might not be a bad idea, but this, you know, change or amendment in regulation to me seems unwarranted, unnecessary, and I've searched for this word for a long time without trying to, you know, balancing my This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Conncil meeting of November 16, 2004. #8 Page 21 anxiety against you know being vitriolic, but I think the one I arrived at would be silly. Thank you. Lehman: Thank you. Marian, would you like to explain. Karr: I'd just like to clarify one thing. The current ordinance requires that each vehicle be furnished with a distinctive color scheme. Lehman: Scheme is the... Karr: .. . and each vehicle. What happened is we had companies coming in and as they add new cars, the company wants to change the color of that vehicle, rather than paint it. So what we have is within companies discrepancies within color schemes, and it puts staff at awkward spots to already look at a color scheme approved by another cab company. So what we've been interpreting this code for years is each company shall have a distinctive color scheme. Doesn't say that you can't use the same color over. So you can use red and white. You can use green and white. You can use... we're not changing how we've been enforcing it for years. What we are is clarifying that each company have a distinctive color scheme. The current companies will see no change at all in how it's being enforced. But new companies will be informed that we do have distinctive color schemes. Lehman: What you're saying is that all the vehicle of one company need to be, have the same distinctive color scheme? Karr: That's correct. Lehman: Okay. And we'll, you can speak again later, Tom. Go ahead. Green: My name is Mick Green. I'm from Marion, Iowa. I'm the owner/operator of Airport Shuttle Service. They're licensed vehicle for hire with Iowa City. I'm here to request that, from the City Council, that we be able to change our color scheme from blue with blue letters, to silver with blue letters. Reason I'm asking this is we use Chrysler vans. Currently I have six Chrysler mini-vans and one large Ford 1 O-passenger vehicle. The reason we're asking this request is Chrysler has informed us that the color that we use now, the last time it was manufactured was 1999, and it's kind of a teal blue, and there's a million of them out there, and it was really a nice thing because it was easy to replace vehicles. We replace usually two vehicles a year. The point came up of painting. Painting is not a viable option because, as the gentleman stated, often times you can spend $3,000 to $4,000, which we'd have more invested in the paint job than the vehicle, some times. So that's not really a viable option for us. With checking with Chrysler, they said we should probably look at silver, which This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #8 Page 22 to my knowledge nobody is using that color now, and we would like to have silver vans with blue letters. Lehman: That's not something Council has any issue with, that's between... Karr: No. You can change the color scheme at any time you want, Mick. It's just you want to change your existing licensed ones as well? You want to run.. .you can change your color scheme at any time by filing a change in the City Clerk's office, and being sure that that color scheme isn't being used by anyone else. Do you wish to change the current cars you have license? Are they all going to be silver? Green: No, what I'd like to do is... Karr: That's the problem. Green: What I'd like to do is phase this in like over a three year period, and I was told, we did some research, to come down here and address the Council. To make a formal request. Karr: We can, again, the color schemes can be changes at any time. What we're running in to is if companies have more than one color scheme. Green: Well, I guess I would like to go on record, I would like to have silver with blue letters. Dilkes: I think what the gentleman is asking is that there be some provision, and I don't know what that would be for a change in color, and a phase-in of that color. I don't know what period oftime we're talking about, or I communicated with Linda Kirsch, his attorney, and said that we understood his dilemma, but there was no authority in the code, as it's now written, to allow different colors on different cars of a single company. I suggested she would have to raise that with the City Council, and said that the color scheme issue was on the agenda tonight, and told her that, as Marian did, a letter did to all the cab companies that it would be on the agenda. Karr: We certainly can allow a grand fathering in. The problems that we have heard are two-fold. The confusion is from citizens, who when they call a certain cab company, have an expectation of what type of car or color to look for when they get in. It's a security for them, that they called a certain company, that they know is red and white, and when another one pulls up, they're very concerned that it's the right one. The other thing is that we receive a number of complaints each year from taxi companies themselves of people painting their cars to look like their competition, and so we try as much as we can to, we have eleven companies right now, and This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #8 Page 23 again, you can change colors at any time, providing that they are far enough away from the existing companies licensed. And ifthe Council would like to consider grandfathering, certainly we can take a look at that, as well. Champion: Well I certainly think we have to allow people to gradually change a color scheme, and the color they're using is not available. They would never be able to afford to paint all their cabs. Nobody would be able to afford to ride in them. Elliott: I think the question, however, is whether or not they can phase it in. Karr: This doesn't take effect until March. Champion: The other thing is, I don't know, it seems like we're making something pretty simple very complicated. Elliott: I'd like to have staff look at it and come to us with a recommendation. Bailey: (several talking at once) .. . lack of clarity and this is to clarify a current ordinance regarding color, as far as I'm following this, and so this is the staff recommendation, we've got it. Elliott: Except there is no provision for phasing in. Is there a reason why that cannot be? Dilkes: The Council can direct us to do a grand fathering, phasing thing. You can direct us to eliminate the color altogether. You can do whatever you want. Frankly, I'm certain that eliminating the color scheme from an administrative perspective would be far favorable to dealing with this color scheme all the time. Karr: And we recommended that to you in December 2001, and that didn't (several talking at once). Yes, they can keep their color scheme. We're just clarifying that each vehicle isn't a distinctive color scheme. Each company, that's all we're doing. Dilkes: This is not a change. It's just simply a clarification in the language because the argument has been made "oh I can make every cab a different color." O'Donnell: How do we put a provision in for.. .the airport shuttle? (can't hear) that they can grandfather this in, is that possible to do that? Karr: We can certainly take a look at that, and currently they have seven vehicles listed, which would be blue color, and they've got a couple of This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #8 Page 24 them that are 1996. The other ones are much newer. The question is how long do you want to grandfather them in? O'Donnell: Did you not tell us two to three years? Green: Three years because we replace usually two vehicles a year. That's what our budget allows, and we could probably within three years have it all done. I would probably either have to paint the large vehicle silver, or maybe replace that one. That's considerable cost. That's probably about a $25,000 vehicle in itself. This is just, we saw this problem coming, and we thought we'd better address it. We're assured by Chrysler that silver is the staple in their line-up, and that it will be there, which gives us the ability to... Karr: I will be very happy to look at the color scheme, but as it currently stands, I have one licensed silver vehicle already. So, unless the silver is distinctive enough, I can't promise. Green: Well, when I looked at my sheet, I didn't see any company that had silver. Karr: I do. Now it may be a different silver, Mick. You could bring it in and we could take a look at it. Green: Which company is that? Karr: Silver Shuttle. Green: I didn't even know they existed. (laughter) Champion: How could you? There's thirty of them. Dilkes: I think there's a misperception that we don't have many cab companies, and how many.. .we currently have eleven. O'Donnell: Is there anybody interested in deferring this? Champion: Well, I think we've got some.. .we're creating a monster. O'Donnell: Well, absolutely. I would like to maybe have time to talk about this. Champion: I mean, we ought to think about some distinguishing feature that the cab company has to have. Lehman: You mean like a sign with their name on it? This represents only a reasonably accnrate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #8 Page 25 Champion: Yeah, like a sign with the name on it. (laughter and several talking at once) Green: Which we do have, we're required to have 2-inch letters. We have it on either side of our vehicle. Lehman: Right. Karr: They're required now to have that. Licensing for the cab companies are in March of each year. Bailey: You know, this is a relatively simple issue. This is a relatively simple change. If we want to accommodate these kinds of things, can we just go through with this and come back? Instead of deferring something that is very simple. Lehman: I would concur with that. This is really kind of... Dilkes: You could collapse this one and be done with it tonight, and then look at the other issues. Lehman: And then look at other issues...I think that's a good idea. Bailey: And then bring, I don't know what this grandmothering thing would entail. .. Wilburn: It would also, you would have to address...it wouldn't be an issue in this case, but you'd have to address, because the color is being phased out or not available, but you'd have to address whether or not someone can use a color that someone is being phased out of. (laughter and several talking at once) Elliott: Well, let's vote on this, and have a recommendation. Bailey: We can get some input from these experts, and develop something that's a little more comprehensive instead of deferring this and rushing through. This is very simple. Lehman: I sense that grandfathering is not going to be a problem. Green: Thank you. Lehman: The rest of us think that we will.. .however, you may have a silver problem. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #8 Page 26 Green: Honestly, I had a sheet provided to me that had all the colors on it. I don't know if it was updated or not, but we picked silver because nobody else had it on that sheet I had. So, I don't know. Lehman: Well, this is something, I think, we can.. . Champion: We have to discuss this further. Lehman: Right. Heyn: My name is Paul Heyn. I'm an owner of Old Capitol Cab, here in town. I guess one of our slogans is "ride red," so we're red. I'll probably be one of the only ones here speaking tonight in favor of having a color for the cabs. I know it sounds kind of germane to the average person why you have a different color for cab companies, or color schemes. There is a silver cab, by the way. He just started recently. So, it's just a single van. We do have eleven companies. I think there are only two companies that have more than a half dozen vehicles. A lot of companies are single, or two-vehicle companies. That's why there's a lot of confusion. There's probably.. .we ride fourteen or fifteen vehicles. Yellow Cab here in town, obviously they have a color and they'd be interested in keeping yellow. That's their name. They ride a dozen to fourteen vehicles, and then the other companies combined run about twenty vehicles, if you include the shuttle services, which are based primarily airport services. We get our paint jobs for about $1,000 here in town. This year we've painted fourteen vehicles alone. So, I don't see painting vehicles as a large expense to someone else. Ifit is, or if they're paying too much for that, they should check around business-wise. We've never had a problem with it. What we like about the clarity of the color is the safety issue, and I think this is what's been addressed before, is people calling for a cab and you can say that, yeah, you look out front of your place and you should be able to tell what color a cab is when you look out. It's not true with a lot of the customers that we pick up that live in apartments that are fifty yards off the street or far enough away that they have to look to see what color the company is. We get a lot of calls, just problems back and forth with companies. We've worked with pretty much everybody here in town. I don't have too much trouble solving this within ourselves, of people stealing calls. Somebody calling for a cab. Somebody hears it over a scanner, which they can hear our radio scanners back and forth. Our dispatchers make sure that we let people know to look for a red cab. When you go out, look for a red cab. Look for a red cab. It's color, color, color. A lot oftime somebody will hear a call; they'll try and get to it before we do; and a customer sees a cab, and thinks that's the company they called. What we try to do is we try to build patronage within our customers to trust us. Professional cab company. What we do, who we are, and when somebody else takes that ride, well, there's now a safety This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #8 Page 27 issue of you riding with somebody different than us. We think that we're a different company than a lot of others. We provide a very professional services. The grandfathering, I'd be against that, just to speak it here, just because you're going to have that discrepancy again of which color is it. The average person has no clue. All's they know is that color changed, and I guess what we'd hate to see is we'd.. .1'11 address the gypsy cab issue, that's people that will take their personal car, go downtown on a busy Saturday night, follow a cab, one of us around. Somebody flags us and we've already got people in our car going a different direction, so we say we can't take you because I'm going south and they want to go north, this person behind, in their own personal vehicle, then will have seen somebody flag a cab, will just roll their window down and say, "Hey where do you want to go?" Big safety issue for Iowa City. I guess our biggest concern is, what happens when somebody finally gets in one of those cars and doesn't reach their destination? So, I think a color scheme, from a safety issue, is something that's good for Iowa City. And I guess I'll just leave it, and any questions you have, I'd be happy to answer. But I agree with having a task force or a group to get together to discuss all the other issues we have in the cab companies. I think between ourselves we'd probably be able to come up with a lot of things that most people wouldn't be aware of. Thank you. Lehman: Thank you. Hatch: If! understand Marian correctly, our point's moot, and so basically I'm just guilty of not reading as closely as I should have and muddying the waters. So, basically the only thing that's going to change is you couldn't carry two, or three or four. . . Karr: It's the same thing you and I talked about a couple weeks ago, Tom. Hatch: Well I feel like an idiot. Anyway.. . thanks. (laughter) Lehman: No, no, you're not an idiot. Any other Council discussion? Wilburn: So we can collapse this and... Lehman: We can if we want to. Whoever made the motion, if you'd like to withdraw it, and... Karr: Vanderhoef/O'Donnell. Lehman: Would you withdraw your motion? Vanderhoef: I will withdraw.. . This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #8 Page 28 O'Donnell: Second. Lehman: We're about ready to... Vanderhoef: Okay, I move the rule requiring that ordinances must be considered and voted on for passage at two Council meetings, prior to the meeting at which it is to be finally passed, be suspended. That the second consideration and vote be waived, and that the ordinance be voted on for final passage. O'Donnell: I second that. Lehman: Motion by Vanderhoef; seconded by O'Donnell to collapse. Discussion? Roll call. Motion carries. Vanderhoef: I move that the ordinance be finally adopted at this time. Bailey: Second. Lehman: Motion by Vanderhoef; seconded by Bailey. Discussion? Roll call. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #11 Page 29 ITEM 11 CONSIDER A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN lOW A CITY BY WHISPERING GARDEN IHA LIMITED PARTNERSHIP Wilburn: I will be.. .this is Item 11, right? Lehman: Right. Wilburn: I will be abstaining due to a conflict of interest. This involves the usage of Home Funds and I work for an organization that is a recipient of CDBG/Home Fund. Bailey: Move the resolution. Vanderhoef: Second. Lehman: Moved by Bailey; seconded by Vanderhoef. Discussion? Vanderhoef: This has been a tough one to look at, for me, even though we didn't have written guidelines at the time that these dollars were awarded for the '04; however, at the time we had a lot of discussions about the fact that we were trying to scatter the sites for the housing and to be aware of impacts on schools. So, I will be voting no on this tonight because I truly want this moved around the city, out of the Grant Wood School district. Bailey: I'm going to support this and for the following reasons. We've made a lot of assumptions about impact on schools, and we have a task force working on that, and clearly from reading their minutes, it's a very complex issue, and I feel like we are acting on some things that are already decided, and the impact ofthat is a reduction in low-income housing in our community, and I think that that's creating a problem, or continuing a problem, that I'm not interested in perpetuating. I know that this is in the Grant Wood School district. I know that Grant Wood is quite well staffed to deal with kids in that district with, who come from difficult situations, but housing stability, or lack of housing stability for families, causes even more problems, even greater problems than going to a school that has a high percentage of low-income kids. So I'm going to be supporting this, and probably as I anticipate, in the minority supporting this. Lehman: Other discussion? Elliott: I will, I oppose this, and will vote against it on the basis of both geographic location in an area that already has an inordinate concentration, and so geographic location and concentration. I'll be voting no. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #11 Page 30 Champion: Well I think this...1, what you're saying is true, Regenia; however, I do know, and the school district also knows, that we have created problems by not distributing low-income housing. Children oflow-income and high-income learn best when they're inter-mixed; when there's a pretty even mix; all groups learn better when they're inter-mixed. And I think we are putting a burden on the schools, and I think the school district would agree with us. They asked us to look at this originally, so they must think it's a problem. Bailey: But the problem is the market, I mean, these are the.. . southeast Iowa City is where there's low-priced lots, and that's the problem, and so we are foregoing the possibility of having twelve additional affordable units. Champion: I think we're going to look, I think we've talked about looking at developments that are requiring...1 can't think of the term you used, Eleanor. . . Lehman: Inclusionary zoning. Champion: Inclusionary zoning. I mean, I don't think this is something we're going to drop and ignore. Dilkes: Wait a minute. There was a question as to what inclusionary zoning was. It's not my understanding that that is being contemplated in the rewrite of the Development Code. Champion: No, we talked about looking at it; asking that we look at it, that we could, remember Ijust asked you if we could do that, and, so if we're interested in doing that, that is one way to address the land issue. Bailey: Right, but that's a future issue, and essentially for two years we're not having any low-income development, that housing, because the southeast side is the place where you can afford to build these kinds of units. And we will, I'm sure we will have the opportunity to further discuss this. Lehman: Any other discussion? Roll call. The motion fails 5 to 1; Bailey voting in the affirmative. Yes? Bob Burns: Mr. Mayor? Is there a reason why you didn't recognize comment (can't hear) Lehman: Well we had discussion and routinely that's the time that folks from the audience get up. Burns: I had raised my hand but you didn't see it. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #11 Page 31 Lehman: Oh, well routinely people don't raise their hands, but if you wish to address the Council, please. O'Donnell: The vote's already... Lehman: And the vote's over, but if you'd like to speak to Council, please. Bums: My name is Bob Bums, architect, 319 E. Washington Street in Iowa City. I just want to point out to you again that these lots in Iowa City are the only duplex lots where the ground is level where we can build a simple one-story duplex building for affordable housing. There are no other places in Iowa City to do that. I've checked with a realtor, as recently as last week, and I would urge you to, someone who, I think you can reconsider this motion. I would urge you to go back and reconsider this motion because we have a contract with the City to provide affordable housing. We have a loan agreement and a note, a promissory note to pay the City back to build affordable housing, and these are the only lots that are available, as I said, to build a simple, one-story duplex building in Iowa City. It's the only place. I have a contract with you're, and you just denied us the opportunity to receive scoring points from the Iowa Finance Authority, where we have to submit our application, so we ask you to reconsider the motion. Lehman: Is there anyone who would like to reconsider? Elliott: Not I. Lehman: Okay. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #13 Page 32 ITEM 13 CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST A DEDICATION OF SCHOOL SITE AND COST SHARING AGREEMENT BETWEEN CLEAR CREEK, LLC; SOUTHGATE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, INC.; THE CITY OF IOWA CITY; AND THE CITY OF CORALVILLE Lehman: We've been asked to defer this. Bailey: So moved. Dilkes: Indefinitely. Lehman: Indefinitely. Motion by Bailey. O'Donnell: Second. Lehman: Seconded by O'Donnell. All in favor? Opposed? Motion carries. Are we okay on 14? Dilkes: We're okay on 14. I've, we've added a provision that makes letting the contract on a school site agreement. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #15 Page 33 ITEM 15a CONSIDER A RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING THE AWARD OF A CONTRACT BY THE CITY OF CORALVILLE, lOW A FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE CAMP CARDINAL ROAD SITE PREPARATION PROJECT, AlK/A THE CAMP CARDINAL ROAD PRELIMINARY CLEARING PROJECT Lehman: And we have received seven bids, and the engineer's estimate was $192,200. Low bid was Veith Construction at $173,530, and pardon? Champion: They backed out, didn't they? Dilkes: They withdrew their bid because they had a misunderstanding as to... Lehman: All right. Public Works is recommending the award go to the Connolly Construction Company ofPeosta, Iowa, at $194,980. Do we have a motion to... O'Donnell: Move the resolution. Vanderhoef: Second. Lehman: Moved by O'Donnell; seconded by Vanderhoef. Discussion? Roll call. Motion carries. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #15 Page 34 ITEM ISb CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 04- 222, AND AUTHORIZING AND PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE OF NOT TO EXCEED $7,000,000 AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF A SENIOR HOUSING FACILITIES REVENUE BOND OF THE CITY OF lOW A CITY, lOW A, FOR THE PURPOSE OF LENDING THE PROCEEDS THEREOF TO THE BORROWER; THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF A LOAN AGREEMENT AMONG THE CITY, THE BORROWER AND THE SERVICERPROVIDING FOR THE REPAYMENT OF THE LOAN OF THE PROCEEDS OF SAID BONDS AND THE SECURING OF SAID REPAYMENT OBLIGATION; THE SALE OF SAID BONDS; THE EXECUTION OF A PLEDGE, SERVICING AND PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT; AND THE EXECUTION OF OTHER DOCUMENTS RELATED THERETO Lehman: Do we have a motion to... Wilburn: Move adoption of the resolution. Lehman: Thank you. Champion: Second. Lehman: Motion by Wilburn; seconded by Champion. These are bonds that we're going to sell for Oaknoll, which is a tremendous opportunity for the City, I think, to work with a really, really great citizen of the community. O'Donnell: Absolutely. Lehman: Discussion? Elliott: This is the same thing we had done for A.C.T. Lehman: That's correct. Roll call. Atkins: Not really. There'll be a lot of "thereofs" and "wherefors" if you want me to exp lain it. Elliott: I'm tired of.. .no. In general this is what we're talking about. Atkins: In general we're helping, we're pledging our support, our good... Elliott: Good. Thanks, Steve. Lehman: I would like to know who holds the wording for this, but no on second thought, I'm not going to ask. (laughter) Roll call. Motion carries. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #16 Page 35 ITEM 16 COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS Lehman: Last night the Council agreed to the appointment of Douglas DuCharme for the Board of Appeals. Parks and Recreation Commission - Phil Reisetter and Matt Pacha. For the Senior Center Commission - Jay Honohan and Betty Kelly. Do we have a motion to that effect? Vanderhoef: So moved. Champion: Second. Lehman: All in favor? Opposed? Motion carries. We will be re-advertising those appointments that were not made last night, and those need to be in by... Karr: December 1 st at 5. Lehman: December 1 st at 5 :00 for the next meeting. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #19 Page 36 ITEM 19 CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION Bailey: Nothing here. Wilburn: Nothing tonight. Lehman: Dee? Vanderhoef: I was late tonight because I was having a birthday party with my youngest granddaughter who turned two today. So, I had birthday cake with her before she had to go to bed. Lehman: Mike? O'Donnell: I'll say once again, the guys picking up the leaves have done an incredible job. We should recognize that. And are we sending a letter regarding the traffic problem over on River Street? We all got an email about. .. Atkins: Sorry, Mike, I didn't see it. O'Donnell: Yeah, the school issue, about crossing and the traffic going fairly fast. Atkins: Oh, the one we talked about last night. Oh, that one, I just, yes we.. .I'll see it's taken care of, yes. O'Donnell: Okay, that's it. Thank you. Lehman: Connie? Champion: Thanksgiving dinner Thursday. Lehman: Your house? Champion: At the Rec Center, isn't it? Lehman: Yes. I can't go. Atkins: I have to miss too. I'm giving a speech for the Rotary so... Lehman: Bob? Elliott: Some of us didn't have much to say about the vote on affordable housing. That does not mean that each of us did not give a great deal of thought. That's a very sensitive questions, and we're trying to deal with it as best we can, and on the Council we have different opinions, but that doesn't mean that any of us don't think it's a very important question. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #19 Page 37 O'Donnell: Well said. Champion: Can I revise my all done? (laughter) Lehman: Yes, I didn't think you were. (laughter) Champion: Well, I do think we seriously have some parking situations in Iowa City that are difficult to deal with for residents and guests, and I don't know, I think we should talk about a neighborhood parking sticker, for very limited areas. Lehman: Well, Connie, 1. . . Bailey: The Northside is doing a survey. Champion: Oh, okay. Atkins; I thought there was one under way, Connie. I'll check for you. Champion: Okay, great, fine. Lehman: We've talked about. ..and then nobody seems to want it, but okay... Atkins: Let me find out where that is and I'll report back to you. Lehman: There is a meeting, and Marian, if this isn't correct, tell me. December 1 st is the public meeting for the Charter Review Commission. It's going to be kind of a general community meeting where they're going to discuss various aspects of the Charter, to kind of confirm that what we're doing is okay, or that they'd like to make some changes. Karr: They have two major issues they'd like input on: the election of mayor, and then the Council district representation issues. Lehman: Now, my suspicion is, that if three or more Council people attend that meeting, they are unable to speak. Karr: I don't believe that's... Dilkes: No, the idea for this meeting is that people will break into different groups so I don't think that should be a problem. There is going to be a coming- together, so as long as you aren't speaking as a group I think it will be okay, so I think you should all come if you're interested. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #19 Page 38 Karr: As you mentioned, Ernie, this is a little different than your other actions, because you must accept these recommendations or forward them to the voters. Lehman: I don't think I'll be able to be there, but I think it's a meeting that Council would enjoy being there, and it would be good to have our input. Vanderhoef: Is that at 7:00... Karr: It's at 5:30, Room 1 at the Library. Elliott: December 1 ? Karr: December 1. Vanderhoef: I will not be there. I will be at National Convention. Lehman: I'll be at Enzer's, as usual. You know, I'd like to wish everybody a very Happy Thanksgiving. You know, tonight the first proclamation was one about family, and I think there's no holiday more important (TAPE ENDS) significantly greater than the (can't hear). This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004. #20 Page 39 ITEM 20 REPORTS FROM CITY STAFF Lehman: Steve? Atkins: Not a thing, sir. Lehman: Eleanor? Marian? We have a motion to adjourn? Bailey: So moved. Lehman: We haven't got a second. Wilburn: Second. Lehman: All in favor? Adjourned. Thank you. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of November 16, 2004.