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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1995-08-01 AgendaiOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL AGENDA REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF AUGUST 1, 1995 7:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CIVIC CENTER 410 EAST WASHINGTON Subject to change as finalized by the City Clerk, Clerk's Office, 356-5040. AGENDA IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING - AUGUST 1, 1995 7:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBERS ITEM NO. 1 - CALL TO ORDER. ROLL CALL. ITEM NO. 2- For a final official copy, contact the City MAYOR'S PROCLAMATIONS. ITEM NO. 3 - a. Month of Recognition of the 50th Anniversary of the End of World War II - August 1995. ~ CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED OR AMENDED, Approval of Official Council actions of the special meetings of July 11,1995, and July 18, 1995, and of the regular meeting of July 18, 1995, as published, subject to corrections, as recommended by the City Clerk. Minutes of Boards and Commissions. (1) Airport Commission meeting of June 15, 1995. (2) Mayor's Youth Employment Board meeting of April 25, 1995. (3) Mayor's Youth Employment Board meeting of May 23, 1995. (4) Mayor's Youth Employment Board meeting of June 27, 1995. (5) Housing Commission and Committee on Community Needs joint meeting of June 14, 1995. (6) Committee on Community Needs meeting of June 14, 1995. {7) Committee on Community Needs meeting of July 13, 1995. (8) Human Rights Commission meeting of July 24, 1995. (9) Design Review Committee meeting of July 17, 1995. (10) Planning and Zoning Commission meeting of July 20, 1995. Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1, '1995 Page 2 Permit Motions and Resolutions as Recommended by the City Clerk. (1) Consider a motion approving a Class "C" Liquor License for 6:20, Inc., dba 6:20, 620 S. Madison. (Renewal) (2) Consider a motion approving a Special Class "C" Liquor License for High Energy Food Concepts, Inc., dba Bushnell's Turtle, 127 E. College St. (Renewal) (3) Consider a motion approving an Outdoor Service .Area for High Energy Food Concepts, Inc., dba Bushnell's Turtle, 127 E. College St. (Renewal) (4) Consider a motion approving a Class "C" Liquor License for Micky's of Iowa City, Inc., dba Micky's, 11 S. Dubuque St. (Renewal) (5) Consider a motion approving a Class "C" Liquor License for G.A. Malone's L.C., dba G.A. Malone's L.C., 121-123 Iowa Ave. (New) (6) Consider a resolution issuing a dancing permit to Setting Public Hearings. (1) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEAR- ING FORAUGUST 15, 1905~ ON PLANS, SPECIFICA- TIONS, FORM OF CONTRACT AND ESTIMATED COST OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE 1995 CURB RAMP PROJECT. Comment:. This project consists of the construction and reconstruction of sidewalk curb ramps to Ameri- cans with Disabilities Act standards along routes prioritized by JCCOG and special interest groups. This is the second of four contracts to bring Iowa City's sidewalk system in substantial compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act, The estimated construction cost of the 1995 Curb Ramp Project is approximately $100,000. This project will be funded by road use taxes & bond proceeds. City of Iowa City MEMORANDUM DATE: TO: FROM: REF: July 31, 1995 Mayor, City Council, General Public City Clerk Additions to Consent Calendar 3 c. (6) Consider a resolution issuing a dancing permit to Iowa City Fall Fun Festival, 2150 Rochester Avenue. 3 c. (7) Consider a motion approving a Special 5-Day Beer Permit for Iowa City Fall Fun Festival, Inc., dba Iowa City Fall Fun Festival, Inc, 2150 Rochester Ave. (New) Consider a motion approving a Temporary Outdoor Service Area for Iowa City Fall Fun Festival, Inc., dba Iowa City Fall Fun Festival, Inc., 2150 Rochester Ave. (New) Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1, 1995 Page 3 Resolutions. (1) (2) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE WORK FOR THE SANITARY SEWER, STORM SEWER, WA- TER MAIN AND PAVING PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR LOTS 72-95, 137, 138 AND 157-174 FOR WHISPERING MEADOWS SUBDIVISION - PART 2; Comment: See Engineer's Report. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE WORK FOR THE SANITARY SEWER, STORM SEWER, TILE LINE, WATER MAIN AND PAVING PUBLIC IMPROVE- MENTS FOR VILLAGE GREEN SOUTH - PART 3A (LOTS 1 & 12-15), PART 3B, PART 4A AND PART 4B (LOTS 51-54 & 65-68). Cornmerit: See Engineer's Report. (3) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE WORK FOR THE SANITARY SEWER, STORM SEWER, WA- TER MAIN AND PAVING pUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR WINDSOR RIDGE - PART 5. Comment: See Engineer's Report. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE WORK FOR SANITARY SEWER, STORM SEWER, WATER MAIN AND PAVING PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR- VILLAGE GREEN SUBDIVISION, PART XIII. Comment: See Engineer's Report. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE WORK FOR THE MAIDEN LANE PAVING AND SANITARY SEWER PROJECT. Comment: This is the special assessment paving and sanitary sewer portion of the Maiden Lane Area Improvements. The pedestrian bridge is not comp{ete. The final construction cost is $264,838.64. The amount to be assessed to property owners is $301,562.15 which includes construction, engineer- ing, legal and administrative costs. Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1, 1995 Page 4 (6) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ORDERING PREPARATION OF FINAL PLAT AND SCHEDULE OF ASSESSMENTS FOR THE MAIDEN LANE PAVING AND SANITARY SEWER PROJECT. Comment: Tills resolution directs the engineer to prepare the final plat and schedule of assessments in preparation for levying the final assessments for the Maiden Lane Paving and Sanitary Sewer Project. Correspondence. (1) Letter from John Forrest. regarding public access television. (2) Letter from Brandon D, Ray regarding public a. ccess television. (3) Memorandum from the Traffic Engineer regarding removal of parking prohibition on the east side of the 100 block of North Linn Street. Applications for the Use of Streets and Public Grounds. (1) Application from George Karr for the use of public streets on September 3, 1995, for the Regina Fall Fun Festival Walk/Run. (approved) (2) Application from the American Diabetes Association for the use of public sidewalks for the Walktoberfest on October 1, 1995. (approved) (3) Application from the Downtown Association for the use of public sidewalks on July 20 through 23, 1995, for Summer Sidewalk Days. (approved) (4) Application from Craig Carney for the use of the public sidewalk adjacent to the Racquet Master during the period of July 20 through 23, 1995, for sidewalk sales. (approved) (5) Application from The University of Iowa Homecoming Council for the use of public streets for the Homecom- ing Parade on October 13, 1995. (approved) Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council .Meeting August 1, 1995 Page 5 ITEM NO. 4 - Applications for City Plaza Use Permits. (1) Application from the Friends of Spartacus Youth Club for permission to set up a table on July 21 and 29, 1995, for the purpose of distributing literature. (approved) (2) Application from the Evert Conner Rights and Resourc- es Center for Independent Living for the use of the stage area on July 26, 1995, for the Americans with Disability Act Celebration. (approved) (3) Application from the Dbwntown Association for the use of the stage area on August 26, 1995, for the Abilities Awareness Day. (approved) (4) Application from Chris Randall for the use of the stage area on July 26, 1995, for the purpose of announcing the candidacy of J. Johr~ston for City Council. (approved) (5)- Application from Rebecca Thomas for permission to set up a table on July 22, 1995, for the purpose of distributing information. (approved) (6) tion about ~e clinic./am~pproved) END OF CONSENT CALENDAR Application from the Emma Goldman Clinic for permis- sion to set up a table for the distribution of informa- PUBLIC DISCUSSION (ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA). #3 Consent Calendar page ITEM NO. 3 - CONSIDER ~,DOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR PRESENTED OR AMENDED. Horow/ We have added a number of items under Item C, Fall Fun Festival items. C(6), (7) & (8). A beer permit for the festival and also dancing. We have deleted resolution E(1). This is to delete and defer to August 15. This has to do with the storm sewer, sanitary sewer, water main and paving improvements for Whispering Meadows Subdivision. Moved by Pigott, seconded by Throg. Discussion. Roll call- (yes) . Thisrepresents only areasonably accurate transcription ofthelowa City councll meeting of August1,1955. F080195 #4 page 1 ITEM NO. 4 - PUBLIC DISCUSSION (ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA). Horow/ Public Discussion. Items that are not on the agenda. Anyone that wishes to address council on an item that is not on the agenda. Please come forward, sign in, state your name. We would ask that you keep your comments to not more than five minutes. Davey Moore/ Hi. Do I sign in here? Kubby/ Will we get a song tonight? Throg/ It is worth noting that Davey Moore is one of the most outstanding singers this city has seen in a long time. Moore/ We will see how I do as a public speaker. I just stopped by. I guess I had the option of writing the council or stopping by and it was just simpler to stop by. I am a renter on Davenport Street and we were out, my wife and me and an eight year old, we out of the country for about two and a half months last winter and we had a subletter there who seemed to do a pretty good job. Anyway, when we got back, about a month and a half after we got back we ended up getting in the mail a utility bill for $1,000 and at first I thought it was a mistake. The break down on it was about I think $300 and some for water and $600 and some for utilities for sewage and I talked to the subletter who is not in a position of being able to pay it and he said he remembered two or three days when the water might have been running on the toilet but other than that he couldn't explain the 30,000 cubic feet that went through the system. So I was just about ready to realize well, this must be a mistake. I talked to the city. They checked the meter and it was not a mistake and so I came in and I ran into a Realtor friend of mine and said that he thought the water end of it seemed fairly fair but $600 and some for sewage when it was all clean water seemed a little extreme. He thought I should check with the Utility people here. So I talked to a Don Yucuis and maybe I caught him in a good mood. He is a great guy anyway. He said yeah, this seems reasonable. Maybe we can- You pay the water and we can work out something on the sewage and go from there. In the meantime I paid $100 as an act of goodwill. Anyway, he suggested I write a letter to the sewage adjustment board which I did and he thought it was going to go pretty well. So, anyway, that was rejected. We got a letter from them a couple of weeks ago that they had rejected that and I thought okay, what do we do next. This represents onty areasonably accurate transcription ofthelowa City council meeting of August 1,1995. F080195 #4 page 2 Kubby/ Wait a minute. I never knew we had a Sewage Adjustment Board. Throg/ Who did you go to, Davey? Arkins/ I am suspecting then that Mr. Moore may have gone to the staff committee that reviews. It has been called a number of things. Close enough. I know what you mean. Moore/ You know what I mean. Somebody by the name of Dianna wrote me a letter back. She was to the effect that all the water that goes through the system whether it is clean or dirty still goes the same way. So I was about ready to give up on it and then I thought well, I will take one more shot at it. I did talk to Don and Ed Moreno one time. They said that in the future at some point there is going to be some meeting where they may look at strange cases like this and so I am on a payment plan with the city at $50-75 a month but this may change if they change their mind. Anyway, I didn't come here for charity. You know, if we screwed up, we screwed up and we will pile up some money and figure out a way to deal with this but I wanted to make a couple of points on int. One the fact of the previous two months billing procedures makes it pretty difficult to catch something like this. So really I think-I don't know what the negatives are on the one month billing procedures but as far as that is a will good positive on that. The second thing here somehow I find it a little difficult to believe that there is not some kind of relationship between clean water and the amount of work that is done to it when it is not 30,000 cubic feet of sewage as opposed to 30,000 cubic feet of clean water. I don't know enough about the science of it but somewhere along the process I would think that the maintenance or something would be less expensive when we are dealing with clean water. I don't know that but I want to throw it out. Kubby/ The problem is is when that water goes down your sink or down your commode and it gets mixed up with everything else that is in the sewer pipe and it maybe dilutes what is in there a little bit but we still have to clean it out. Moore/ Are there some communities that charge their sewage rate according to the size? Woito/ According to the size of the what? Moore/ According to the size of the family. They bill you according This mpresents only a reasonably accurate transcHptlon ofthe Iowa City council meeting of August 1,1995. F080195 #4 page 3 to the amount of cubic feet of water but when it comes to the sewage itself they deal with that according to how many people. Woito/ There are some communities that do adjustments based on household income. Kubby/ Family size does not necessarily dictate water or sewer usage. Moore/ The only other thing I would say is I don't know if someone told me and I don't know who it was that this is one of the highest residential utility bills that there have been in a long time. Is there any kind of a flexibility in this process at all for extreme cases like this? Horow/ I think the next thing to do really would be to talk to the staff about this because we don't have facts and figures in front of us to help you one way or another. I think-I have appreciated you telling us your story because it is true. If you can't catch a leak you do pay for it and we have had complaints about going to the one month bill but I am saying in your case it has proven the value of having a one month bill. Not to your benefit. Throg/ I thoroughly agree with you about your point about the one month bill. To just delegate this to the staff is to push the policy question to them. The policy question is basically what should be done when someone has an extraordinarily high bill when it comes out of the blue. Horow/ My point for that is that this is a public discussion period for other people to talk about this and I don't think we can solve it this evening. That is the point that I think we will have to take this up later and I would like you to talk with Don Yucuis (can't hear). And what Jim's point is that this would have to be a discussion during a work session of council to look at the policies we have. They may be reaffirmed or they may be (can't hear). But this isn't the place. Kubby/ But we have-We did vote and it was a 7-0 vote to have a resolution to have a policy for low income households with the new water and sewer bills but we haven't finalized what that means and it may be part of that discussion if there is a household who has an aberration in their water usage because of a leak, is there some way to deal with that within that policy as well. That should be probably added to that list of Thisrepresents only areasonably accuratetranscription ofthslowa City council me~tng of August 1,1995. F080195 #4 page 4 discussion. Horow/ Thank you very much. Moore/ All right. I hope I didn't come at the wrong time. Horow/ It is perfectly okay. Kubby/ I hope you will go back to your subletter, too, and see if you can arrange a payment plan between you and the subletter. Moore/ Thank you very much. Horow/ Anybody like to try to follow that act? This is public discussion and we ask if anyone wants address council on an issue that is not on the agenda, please do feel free to come forward. Thisrepresents only 8reasonablysccuratetranscrlptlon ofthelowa City council meeting of August1,1995. F080195 Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1, 1995 Page 6 ITEM NO. 5 - PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS, at Consider setting a public hearing for August 15, 1995, on a resolution to annex a 3,05 acre tract located north of Ameri- can Legion Road and west of Arlington Drive. (ANN94-0008} Comment: At its July 18, meeting, by a vote of 5-2, with Gibson and Scott voting no, the Planning and Zoning Commis- sion recommended approval of this annexation. The Commission's recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation. Action: Consider setting a public hearing for August 1.5, 1995, on an ordinance amending the Zoning Ordinance by amending the use regulations of a 3.05 acre tract located north of American Legion Road and west of Arlington Drive from County RS, Suburban Residential, to RS-5, Low Density Single-Family Residential. (REZ94-0013) Comment: At its July 18, meeting, by a vote of 6-1, with Scott voting in the negative, the Planning and Zoning Commis- sion recommended approval of this rezoning. 'The Commission's recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation. Action: Public hearing on a resolution to annex an approximate 250 acre propar~y located north of 1-80 and west of N. Dubuque Street. (ANN94-OO09) Comment: At its July 6, meeting, by a vote of 6-0, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of the annexation of this property, which is the site of the proposed water treatment plant. The Commission's recom- mendation is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the .~taff report dated January 19. Action ('ZT~,/L ( ~/~ Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1, 1995 Page 7 Public hearing on an ordinance amending the Zoning Ordi- nance by amending the use regulations of an approximate 2,50 acre property located north of 1-80 and west of N. Dubuque Street from County A1, Rural; RS, Suburban Residential; and R3A, Suburban Residential; to P, Public. (REZ94-0018)~/~ Comment: At its July 6, meeting, by a vote of 6-0, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of this rezoning. The Commission's recommendation is consis- tent with the staff recommendation contained in the January 19 staff report. Action:_ "~,~ ~'~. ~~ Public hearing or~ an ordinance amending Title 14, Chapter 4, "Land Control and Development," Article C, "Historic Preser- vation Regulations," and Chapter 6, "Zoning," Article J, "Overlay Zones" to allow the City to designate historic landmarks and conservation districts. Comment: At its July 6, meeting, by a vote of 4-2, with Jakobsen and Starr voting no, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of the amendments to allow the designation of conservation districts and, by a vote of 6-0, recommended approval of the amendments to allow the designation of historic landmarks. The Historic Preserva- tion Commission, by a vote of 5-0, also recommended approval of the amendments at its May 9, meeting. Action: #5e page ITEM NO. $e. Public hearing on an ordinance amending Title 14, Chapter 4, "Land Control and Development," Article C, "Historic Preservation Regulations," and Chapter 6, "Zoning," Article J, "Overlay Zones" to allow the City to designate historic landmarks and conservation districts. Horow/ Declare the p.h. open. Doug Russell/ I am here representing the Historic Preservation Commission. I thank you for your time considering these ordinance changes and I would like to make a brief presentation to outline them and I would be glad to answer any questions you may have about them. There are two things we are proposing to do. Both of these were recommended in the HP Plan of 1992. All of the ten focus areas of town mentioned in the HP Plan could be affected by this legislation. There are possible landmarks in all ten of these neighborhoods or areas and conservation districts may be appropriate in eight of the ten. So this could have some wide spread effect. The first thing we intend to do is to ask for authority for the council to designate landmarks. A landmark would be an individual building or site or a small group of buildings that is not appropriate to be an historic district. The procedures for designating landmarks would be the same as for historic districts. The protections provided by the statute would be the same. The standards for review of changes in building permits for landmarks would be the same. What is new is the coverage. This will give us an opportunity to designate something that couldn't be a historic district by itself like Old Brick or the Johnson County Court House or the Close Mansion or the former Press Citizen building or the College Block Building which houses Bushnell's or the original airport hangar or the Englert Theater or the old log cabins in city park. Something along those lines. Or a small grouping of buildings like Barbara's Bake Shop and Rentertainment where it wouldn't be a district but could be a landmark. So that would be new. Also you would be giving the authority to designate something that is not a building. A landscape architecture area or an archaeological site. Another new thing would be that this ordinance would create a registry of historic districts and landmarks so that information would be available in one place for historians and citizens. The other new thing would be that the ordinance would create a historic landmark placque program so that we would have some form of brass placque available to be placed on these buildings so the public 6ould be educated about the history. We think the end Thlsrepresantsonly areasonably accuratetranscription ofthelowa City council meeting of August1,1995. F080195 #5e page 2 result of a landmark ordinance would be the same as the HP Ordinance. It will allow important buildings in our district to be preserved. We are only 156 years old or so and we would like to see some of these same buildings make it for the next century and a half. The Conservation District Ordinance is the second thing that we are asking you to create. The statute contains the definition. A thumb nail sketch definition of a conservation district is an area of buildings the majority of which are more than 50 years old which reflect the traditional character of an Iowa City neighborhood, say Rundell Street would be an example of that or Jefferson Street just north of the University campus or say the Longfellow School Neighborhood. It would be an area that might have too few buildings of an historic character to qualify to be a historic district but still have a compatibility of structures or design. Say, Ronald Street or perhaps North Dubuque Street or it could be a neighborhood or an area where there is a pattern of neighborhood settlement that is relevant to Iowa City districts. Say Goosetown or the Longfellow Neighborhood, again or it could be an area of unique character or distinctiveness. This could be perhaps the market street commercial district. It could be fraternity row on North Dubuque Street. There are all kinds of possibilities. And what would actually be proposed as a conservation district would be subject to survey and study and reports to you. The procedures for designating a conservation district are very similar to those for historic districts except that a group of citizens may initiate the process. It doesn't just require the preservation to act. Once the process begins, the new step for conservation districts would be that a conservation district report would be prepared and that would be the basis for designating the conservation district and it would include historic facts, architectural surveys, information about the character of the neighborhood relevant to having it designated in the first place. It would also contain specific design review guidelines for that neighborhood and it would be expected that design review would vary from neighborhood to neighborhood. What is appropriate in Goosetown might not be appropriate in Manville Heights and so forth. Each step of the procedure in designated a conservation district would have safe guards for the property owners and for the residents. As we do now, there would be notice. There would be p.h.s at every step of the process including the HP Commission, P/Z Commission and city council. With notice and adequate opportunity for hearing we think that the citizens needs will be met. If a district is created there will be design review within that conservation district with specific standards for which will be established in the ordinance that Thlsrepresents only areasenebly accurate transc~ption ofthelowa Clt¥council meeting of August1,1995. F080195 #5e page 3 you will be asked to vote upon. There is in the conservation district report a big role for a neighborhood residents and property owners to be heard on what the standards should be and what the regulations should be. The goals of this ordinance are to conserve neighborhoods integrity. We want to avoid incremental demolition of neighborhoods. It has happened to the Near Southside Neighborhood which in affect, no longer exists. We want to avoid incompatible infill which is something that happened on East College Street, for example. Something that is happening now on North Dubuque Street. We want to protect older buildings from demolition by pieces. First the porch comes off, then the carriage house comes down. Pretty soon it is just such an old shabby house it is not worth saving. We want to protect these areas that may not be appropriate as historic districts now but that they will have the integrity to become historic districts 50-100 years from now. Think again of the Longfellow Neighborhood for example. What we are trying to avoid is things in the neighborhood which are intact. The kind of mansion-plexes that invaded College Street. The kind of mansion want to be-s that invaded Bowery Street. We don't want to put a stainless steel silo next to a wood frame house. And we don't want to put a multi- unit apartment building with no front door on Dubuque Street as has already happened. The goal is to try and preserve the context of the neighborhoods and I know the question have arisen what is the tradition neighborhood and I hope that the examples that I have given you would be some answer to that question. I would be glad to address any questions that you may have for us. Pigott/ Doug, could I ask if you were in a conservation district and you wanted to make a change to your house and you were not happy with the decisions that came down about the change you wanted to make, what kind of appeal would you have as a homeowner under the conservation? Russell/ There is a right of appeal and the final appeal goes to the, I believe, to the city council. Maybe the staff can correct me on that. It is either to the Board of Adjustment or the to the city council. Woito/ Board of Adjustment. Russell/ It would be like other zoning matters that go to the Board of Adjustment and that would be the right of recourse. And of course, if they are not satisfied with the administrative process, they can always sue us. No one has sued the city Thisrepresents only areasonebly accuratetranscription oftbelows City council meeting of August 1,1995. F080195 #Se page 4 under the HP Ordinance since it was inaugurated in- Throg/ Doug, you made a reference right near the end of your talk about defining characteristics of traditional neighborhoods and I noticed that, I don't remember what page it is, that somewhere in the definition of conservation districts it says that it would define the traditional character of Iowa City neighborhoods in terms of architectural characteristics, building scales, building setbacks and streetscape design. And what I wondered about last night and wonder about now is whether those characteristics are defined in the HP Plan or whether there are sketches in the plan or any other location that neighborhoods understand what those characteristics mean in terms of traditional neighborhoods. Russell/ There are plenty of graphic illustrations about what we mean. They don't really fit in a city ordinance but they would fit appropriately in a conservation district report and for historic districts we have prepared the Design Review and Guideline Book which says preferred, not preferred, do this, don't do that and so forth. And this would have something similar for conservation districts. But to give you an example: You have a row of houses of modest scale, wood and stone construction on say Rundell Street which I take as a good example. You don't really want to put a big brick apartment building in there. You don't want to put a stainless steel round art deco building in there. We moved-The city moved an American four square clapboard house from Bowery Street to Rundell Street and that worked just fine. That is an example of what we would like to do. If you had a row of houses that were prairie architecture style and there was a vacant lot the design review would say don't build an A-frame there. That is the kind of thing we have in mind. If you have a neighborhood that is full of porches, you don't want to build an apartment building that has no front door. That is sort of what we had in mind. We also would say that we don't define terms like setback. They may be defined elsewhere in the code. But if you have a neighborhood of houses, take South Summit Street, where the houses are fairly far back from the street, to place a building right on the sidewalk would be inappropriate. I think it would destroy the whole streetscape. So it is that kind of compatibility with other structures that we are aiming for. Throg/ Suppose the task is more difficult for situation that are of the type of conservation district proposal that is directed towards where you have a mixture of housing types, housing This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City council meeting of August 1, 1995. F08019 5 #5e page 5 sizes, some apartment units, some other s.f. units. A real mix of styles and types and so on and I guess that is the reason for having unique conservation reports written for each of the conservation districts. Is that correct? Russell/ Yeah, I think that is right and we would not say that because we have small size houses on Rundell Street, for example, you can't build a ranch house or that you can't build a bungalow or that you can't build a brick house as opposed to a wood house. But certain things don't fit and the goal would be the allow people to maximum freedom while protecting the rights of all the neighborhood and the neighbors and trying to preserve the fabric and the texture of that particular neighborhood and I think the important thing at this point about these standards and just exactly what is going to be regulated and how, this is where the citizen input will come in. The citizens will be participating in the writing of the design review guidelines and if there is any portion of the citizenry in the neighborhood that doesn't like them I am sure they will be here to talk about them. Pigott/ For each conservation district, is that correct? Russell/ Each conservation district would have its own set of guidelines because different things may be important. Mass of buildings or setbacks or whatever. Pigott/ So in other words, the neighborhoods gets a right in say in this process. Russell/ They have a say in this process. They have a say in what we pass to present to you. Then, of course, the Commission and the P/Z Conumission and the city council have the right to say yea or nay. And each stage, citizens have a right to comment further. So it is subject to amendment all the way through but our goal is to try and have citizen input at the most meaningful point. Horow/ Thank you, Doug. Kubby/ Would it be in the ordinance or in each conservation district report for continuing to amend the report of each conservation district. If as neighborhoods get older the concerns might where we felt more strongly or be in a different direction and there needs to be some process for amendment once it is set up. Where is the process laid out? This represents only areasonably accurate transcription ofthelowa City council meeting of August 1,1995. F080195 ..' #5e page 6 Russell/ It is not laid out in the present ordinance. I would expect it would be in the conservation district report and the rules for that district. I don't really anticipate that once designated, a conservation district will be undone. Kubby/ I was thinking more of the details of what the tradition is for that conservation district may shift over time or get added onto over time. Russell/ I understand and I think that would be subject to amendment over time because these neighborhoods are going to evolve in ways we can't even contemplate right now. Throg/ One other brief point that I have got is the ordinance talks in terms of neighborhoods of which are the built portions are more than 50 years of age and I am just making an observation here, in another ten years from now, post WWII subdivisions will become eligible to be conservation districts and yet in know way could they be defined as having the characteristics of traditional neighborhoods in Iowa City. So, about ten years from now, we are going to face an interesting question. Russell/ We are and I think all of these definitions change and I am sure there are a lot of buildings that today we would prize as National Register Historic Properties that were torn down because there were old junk. We are just lucky that some of them are kept as long as we did. I think you are right. I mean some question arose when one of the early McDonald Hamburger Stands with the garish arches and white tiles was proposed to the National Register. People said my God, that is ugly and the response was it is history. It is not really an aesthetic judgement as much as an architectural and historic one and in this context the neighborhood judgement about what the character is as it evolves. Horow/ Thank you very much. Anyone else care to address council about the ordinance for the conservation district or historic landmark designation? Paula Brandt/ 824 North Gilbert and I am here representing Friends of HP. Good evening to all of you. We hope very sincerely that the council will pass both of these ordinances. They are good for buildings, they are good for neighborhoods and they are good for the community because they link us to our past and to our history and to what is special about Iowa City. What is special about Iowa City is not South Johnson Street though. It is all of our other neighborhoods that really reflects the Thisrepresentsonlyareasonablyaccuratetranscription ofthelowa City council meeting of August1, 1995. F080195 ~5e page 7 past and what really judge to be the future of this town. we hope that you pass this. Thank you. So Horow/ Anyone else care to address council on this? Declare the p~h. closed. Thisrepresents only araasonably accuratetranscription ofthelowa City council meeting of August1,1995. F080195 Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1, 1995 Page 8 Public hearing on an ordinance amending the Zoning Ordi- nance by conditionally amending the use re{lulations of an approximate 7,8 acres located east of Old Dubuque Road and north of Dodge Street from RS-5, Low Density Single-Family Residential, to OPDH-8, Planned Development Housing Overlay, and RS-8, Medium Density Single-Family, (REZ95- 00401 Comment: At its July 6, meeting, by a vote of 6-0, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended denial of this rezoning. This recommendation is inconsistent with the staff recommendation, In the June 1 5, staff report, staff recom- mended approva! o:[ the p(oposed rezoning, ..~,~.. ,¢~'~.) Consider a resolution to annex approximately 103,86 acres, ~, which includes the Highway 218/Highway 1 interchange and ~ propeAy located in the southwest quadrant of the inter- change. (ANNe5-0001) ~~~ Comment: At its June 15, meeting, by a vote of 6-0, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of this annexation. This recommendation is consistent with the City staff recommendation contained in the staff report dated Jun~ 15. No public comments were received at the July 18 o, #5f page 1 ITEM NO. 5f. Public hearing on an ordinance amending the Zoning Ordinance by conditionally amending the use regula- tions of an approximate 7.8 acres located east of Old Dubuque Road and north of Dodge Street from RS- 5, Low Density Single-Family Residential, to OPDH- 8, Planned Development Housing Overlay, and RS-8, Medium Density Single-Family. (REZ95-0010) Horow/ Last evening council discussed this and ¢ouncil's discussion was an intent to refer this-We gave an indication to refer this back to P/Z Commission for a decrease in the density and to provide somehow for the controlling of the development from the southerly (can't hear). We will have a public hearing on this and take the comments, close the p.h. and then there will be a vote to council whether to refer back to P/Z. Declare the p.h. open. I ask you to state your name and keep your comment to five minutes and we have learned there is no delegation to one spokesperson that can then speak for 15-20 minutes for four people. So this is no more than five minutes. Mary Losch/ 1252 Oakes Drive and if I am truly only going to have five minutes I will have to break the statement up because I am here representing 86 households and they will not all speak tonight if I make my full statement. Many of them will, most of them will be up here if I don't. I am just letting you know that and have a two minute videotape that is part of this. But We are trying to-this is a consensus of the neighborhood. The attached statement include the signature of every household. Horow/ Would you like to start with the video? Losch/ No, it in part of the traffic portion. So it wouldn't fit exactly at the beginning. [Reads August letter to City Council from Residents of Old Dubuque Road, Bristol Drive, Oakes Drive, Quincent Street and Quincent Court.] [Presents Video of Traffic.] Horow/ Mary, your time unfortunately has expired. Is there anyone else that would be able to-? Losch/ I have two more pages and I will finish up otherwise we will have people tripping up here to try to finish it. If you would prefer I will read the conclusion. [Reads letter.] CHANGE TAPE TO REEL 95-92 SIDE 1 This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City ceuncll meeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 #5f page 2 Losch/ Because we were curious about what in fact would be available if this were not constructed. And that includes some openings at Villa Garden which was Mr. Burns last project which I thought was particularly noteworthy. [Reads Conclusion of letter.] And I have a copy of this statement for you with the appended signatures. Horow/ Thank you, Mary. Are there any questions from council? Anyone else that cares to address council on this issue? Jim Holwerda/ I represent certain individuals of the Ecumenical Consultation of Christian Churches. At the Ecumenical Consultation we have long had an interest and put a lot of energy into the provision of housing and our interest is in the providing of affordable and diversified housing for people of Iowa City. After examining the issue on July 19, we the undersigned make the following resolution: We the undersigned of the Ecumenical Consultation of Christian Churches, Iowa City, Iowa, meeting July 19, 1995, urge rezoning of the parcel of land located off North Dubuque Road which has been proposed by the Greater Iowa City Housing Fellowship in partnership with Mr. Robert Burns. It should be pointed out that the adoption of this is done by us as individuals of the Consultation and not by the Consultation as an organization. The individuals who have signed are the Rev. Bruce Fisher, Father Kenneth Kuntz, Mrs. Jackie Finn, Mr. Billy Howell- Sinnard, Father Dennis Hoffman, The Rev. Patricia Halverson, Mrs. Ann Shires, Mrs. Pat Brandt, Mrs. Etta Rasmussen, Father David Hitch, The Rev. Bob Dean, The Rev. John McKinstry, and The Rev. Jim Holwerda. Pigott/ Thank you. Horow/ Anyone else care to address council on this issue? Linda Murray/ Chair CCN. As you know, CCN has not met yet to discuss this specific project and we won't be meeting until next week, on the ninth I think. I've been following this project fairly closely both out of personal interest and I think that it's part of my responsibility as chair. It's in that viewpoint that I'm speaking to you tonight. CCN has not adopted an official position on this project but I have. Finding a way to provide decent affordable housing for Iowa City's low income residents is and issue that both council and CCN struggle with on an ongoing basis and not just when it touches our individual lives. You are as aware as I am of the difficulty that Mr. Burns and the fellowship have had in Thisrepresents only areasonablyaccuratetranscfiption ofthelowa City council meetingofAugust1,1995. F080195 ~Sf page 3 acquiring land to build this kind of project. I don't need to remind you of the discussions that took place just a few months ago as to whether or not additional funds should be allocated for this purpose when the funds from the previous year had not been expended. In the end however, based on CCN's recommendation, you did allocate an additional $100,000 to the Burns-Fellowship Partnership. Because I believe the strong philosophical commitment to the goals of this partnership. Now it is time for both of us, CCN and Council, to back up this philosophical commitment with aotion. We can do that with this project which is a valid and workable project. Yes, there are some concerns but I haven't heard anything that can't be worked out if the will to do so exists and I continue to believe it does. So my question to you tonight is if this is not the kind of project that we have allocated approximately $500,000 in CDBG and Home funds in the past to Mr. Burns and the Fellowship to do, then what is? I think we need to know that. Thank you. Horow/ Thank you. Sharon Raffensperger/ I live on the south side of Iowa City and I teach on the south side of Iowa City so I was very excited when the Housing Fellowship came up with this project on the north side of Iowa City for affordable housing. I'm also a member of the Board of Trustees for the Housing Fellowship and we spent many many many hours discussing whether we wanted to take on a multiple housing project like this. But our goal is to provide decent affordable housing for people in Iowa City and we knew the goals was to provide decent affordable housing and this seemed to be one of the fastest ways to do it, go into a multiple housing project. I hope you'll give it a lot of consideration before you vote. Throg/ Thanks Sharon. Jim, it's always good to see a colleague from the University. Jim Stoner/ 1212 Oakes Drive. Both myself and my students have been out taking traffic counts along Dodge Street for a number of years. And I realize that the last thing City Council needs tonight is probably a five minute traffic engineering lecture so I'll try not to do that but I think in my opinion rezoning to allow high density multifamily housing without allowing for safe adequate access both for existing and future residents isn't appropriate especially when there are really no plans to address the traffic problems that a change in zoning would create. In my view, the enthusiasm of some staff and other Thlsmprssents only areasonsbly accurs~ transcription of tho Iowa City council mssting of August 1,1995. F080195 #Sf page 4 people for the project is not balanced by the recognition of the problems created. First of all I'm sure you've all seen- Horow/ Mr. Stoner, you're going to have to move that mic over a tad. Stoner/ That's fine. I'm sure you all recognize the (can't hear) Dodge Street. Dodge Street is a radial community corridor, provides 1-80 access and serves major employers and commuting traffic from the north. It's also important I think to point out that the top portion of Dubuque Road is a seal coated road. It's not a hard surfaced city street. It's the only major two lane corridors with direct access to the city. Peak hour volumes approach that of Dubuque Street primarily because you have ACT, NCS, Press-Citizen, and other commercial development along Dodge Street. Off peak traffic is not currently a problem but peak hour traffic is considerable. Peak hour traffic on Dodge Street, this is just one one hour traffic count I happened to do in June, I realize you probably can't even see the numbers, but the numbers are very very high. And with it the fifteen minute interval on southbound traffic you see 265 vehicles and that primarily reflects the traffic from ACT at that time. If the intersection is left with the Dubuque roadway controlled by a stop sign, you have peak hour level of service up will occur. And this means that you'll have an average of greater than sixty seconds delay on this stop sign controlled leg of the intersection. It's going to be virtually impossible to get out of there. Currently operates at approximately level of service C which means it's acceptable and has less than twenty-five seconds average delay. It'll take less than forty additional vehicles per hour on Dubuque Road to reach this condition. Installing a light at the intersection is not a solution. For one reason, the delays on Dodge Street will become excessive. It's a state highway. The state DOT would not allow it. Estimated annual increase in fuel costs alone would be over a quarter of a million dollars just for putting tke light in. This may help Dubuque Road traffic but it would cause major problems on Dodge. Dubuque Road is in some Ways similar to Prairie du Chien except that residents do not have access to a secondary intersection like Kimball to gain access to Dodge Street. A three phase light with turning lanes would be appropriate and could be done, but this improvement would probably require acquisition of land for r.o.w. from 1406 Dubuque Road which is the second property being considered for rezoning and consequently would increase the acquisition costs for that property. The improvements that to this intersection are not part of the proposal, Dodge This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City council meeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 #5f page 5 Street improvements that are in the '97-'98, potentially in the '97-'98 CIP, and as reported by staff, gaps will not be created in the traffic stream that will allow safe access for left turning traffic off of Dodge Street. The intersection would continue to operate at level of service set up and become a significant safety hazard. Pedestrian actuated cross walks would also be required at Dodge and Dubuque Road and this would complicate signalization but would possibly increase safety. And so finally I just think this rezoning to make this federally funded land acquisition worked out is not really planning. Thank you. Horow/ Thank you very much. Throg/ Jim, oould I ask you a question? I think I heard you say that even an additional forty vehicles would cause excessive delay. Stoner/ On Dubuque Road. Throg/ Right. Okay. Stoner/ If it remains a stop sign controlled intersection. Throg/ How many housing units does that translate into if you make standard assumptions in terms of trips per housing unit? Stoner/ That's just in the peak hour, Jim, so you're probably talking 20-25 housing units bringing it up to that level. Throg/ Okay, so if the area develops to a single family density of three to five units for all of the open space that could be developed single family at that density, would we end up with the same kind of problem in terms of excessive delays? Stoner/ Eventually, yeah. I mean even if you look at them and there's additional land platted at the present time that that's you know it's fourteen additional housing units. I'm not sure how many total would be, but they would potentially be in the lots located. But I think it's very important if you have a very huge multi-density unit that housing gets out of control pretty quickly. Throg/ You really mean to say huge multifamily unit in this particular instance. Stoner/ I mean any multifamily. Thisrepresents only a reasonably accuratetranscription ofthelowa City council meeting of August1,1995. F080195 #5f page 6 Throg/ Okay. Horow/ Any other questions? Baker/ Yeah. Can I ask a variation on Jim's questionwhich I think is a question which, there are two parts to your traffic analysis. One is density and the other essentially infrastructure. The traffic generation seems to at a point, you seem to be saying, the road width, the access, the lights, all the infrastructure questions are not actually handling and any additional density will dramatically exacerbate that problem so is the- I'm trying to see if the real solution here in your mind is simply not any increased density. Stoner/ That's one solution. The other option is for significant, when the re-do the Dodge Street corridor, I think you're talking about a more significant project than you currently have before you. Baker/ But by the same token, could infrastructure changes also potential solve an increased density? Stoner/ If the - If the state DOT would allow you to add additional traffic signals and a light on Dodge. Baker/ I'm trying to understand if there's any sense in your own mind or the neighborhood's mind about an acceptable density. Thirty two units which would be the Comp Plan density as is. Is that acceptable? Stoner/ You have to see the site plan, and in any event, even with thirty-two units, you'll have a significant increase in traffic. I have to say that, who's to say. Baker/ Okay. Stoner/ You're going to have significantly greater delays whether people would find alternative traffic paths, maybe they will, maybe they won't. Kubby/ What we just approved off of Quincent street. There were fourteen lots there, plus there's more land to be developed and I guess I see the same concerns are there for the single family detached for any more traffic period. Audience/ (Can't hear). Thisrepresents only araasonably accurate transcription ofthelowa City council meetingof August 1,1995. F080195 #5f page 7 Horow/ We can't pick this up if you're going to speak away from the mic. The answer was yes, they are concerned about that. Any other specific questions for Jim? Throg/ Yeah, unless Ernie did you want to? The core problem is Dodge Street isn't it? I mean, it's not traffic on Old Dubuque. What you're pointing to is that the raise encountered in trying to get on to Dodge Street from Old Dubuque, right? Stoner/ Right. Or in getting off of Dodge Street to turn left on Dubuque Road. Throg/ Both of which are a function of the traffic volume on Dodge Street. Right? Stoner/ Dodge Street. That is correct. Throg/ Now would you agree that if we have additional development farther out on North Dodge, either a commercial or office development or in fact single family units at a lower ~ensity farther out, that we will in fact see significant increases in traffic on North Dodge regardless of what we do in this particular instance? Stoner/ Yes. Throg/ Now in this instance, if we have a choice between providing low density development for forty-one units farther out somewhere, either out North Dodge or out Kirkwood or out Melrose or out somewhere, would you agree that the literature basically says that those forty~one units will generate more trips and longer trips than would multifamily units closer in toward town? stoner/ That's true. But you're still going to have the queuing problem on Dubuque Road. Throg/ Sure. Stoner/ That's just where probably the greatest problem is going to be encountered. Throg/ That queuing problem's going to exist, isn't it, regardless because of increases in traffic problems on North Dodge? Stoner/ It'd be increased but the biggest concern is still going to be what your traffic arrival rate is going to be at the end of Thisrepresents only areasonably accurats~anscription ofthslowa City council meeting of August1,1995. F080195 #5f page 8 the queue on Dubuque Road. That's what's going to determine what the delays are. But it's a relatively smaller number of vehicles overall. Kubby/ What's the acceptable level of delay? Is that sixty seconds or less? Stoner/ No. Typically~ at level of service C is what most of your subdivisions requirements. Kubby/ And what is that level of delay. Stoner/ For a stop sign controlled intersection you are talking less than 25 seconds. Kubby/ Okay, thanks. Throg/ Thanks, Jim. Horow/ Anyone else that cares to address council? Liz Allen/ I just wanted to say that I sat through as many City STEPS meetings as you did, Mayor Horow, and we all know that we are in need of low income housing. I do agree with the front page of the Press Citizen tonight when council members had stated that the council should write a policy that spells out exactly what you are looking for in low income housing proposals and as a member of the Board-As a Board member of the Greater Iowa City Housing Fellowship I feel that our Fellowship is trying to help the needs and there are a need of over 2000 units and not letting this pass and not giving us a chance to help the needs of Iowa City is only stopping us from bringing that need down to 1959. Thanks. Horow/ Is there anyone else who cares to address council on this issue? Kathy Folk/ 1241 Oakes Drive. My comment is very simple. Where is our neighborhood park? Where is our open green space? You are taking more land away from us. We are becoming land locked. We are going to be this island inside of roadways. Where is our neighborhood park for children and adults to meet? Isn't that part of what the city is suppose to provide us? Kubby/ This property is not public property at this time. It is private property. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City council meeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 ~5f page 9 Horow/ It does have the right to be subdivided. Kubby/ It is public knowledge that there is a deficit of parkland in that area. We definitely know where our deficits are and whenever there is a development, we have a group of people that looks at should we take land from this particular development as designed and or should we have fee in lieu of the land because it is not an appropriate place for public space. And in this particular instance that group of people said it is best to have a lieu in fee of as this was laid out° Folk/ Who said that? Who made- Kubby/ An Open Space Subcommittee of P/R Commission. Folk/ That means we don't have a park, though. Horow/ In this particular site. Kubby/ It is not one particular development's responsibility to provide parking for the whole area. It is as the area develops it is an acknowledged part of the city's infrastructure and the value that we have is to have open space in each part of town. But it is not one development's responsibility to provide it for the rest of the neighborhood. It is a compilation as the area develops to create the space. Folk/ Then I misunderstood that we were missing a green space. We don't- Kubby/ You have a deficit of around five acres of open space for the whole neighborhood and as individual lost in the areas in the whole neighborhood develop we look at is that particular space appropriate to provide money to buy open space in another area or to provide the space in that area. In this particular instance that subcommittee said we would rather have the money than the space because it is not appropriate to have the open space for the whole neighborhood in that location. Folk/ But it doesn't make any sense. You mean if we live in the neighborhood we will have to go across town to go to our neighborhood park? Kubby/ No, I don't think I am being clear. Maybe someone else could describe this. Thisrepresents only areasonably accurate transcription ofthe Iowa City council meeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 #5f page 10 Horow/ If the land that is up for sale right now were of a nature that it was more appropriate for a park the Neighborhood Open Space Committee might have considered this and voted against this. But they took a look at it in terms of the ravines that were there, in terms of the nature of the topography of the land and felt that it was marginal at best for what is needed in that area. Our ordinances have-are written so that the developer has the ability to either set aside land specifically for a park, part of a park, or give money in lieu of that set aside so that at some point those moneys can purchase parcels of land put them together in your area and create a park. Does that make sense? Pigott/ So future developments may, if future developments occur in that area, those developers maybe asked-may have that choice of providing land or a fee as well. Horow/ Let me get a little more specific. If Mr. Oakes were approached by the P/R Commission in terms of an area that they had looked at that would be appropriate for a park, then they would negotiate with him to purchase that land. The way they get the money for that is this in lieu of aspect about the ordinance. Kubby/ The goal was that you can walk to your neighborhood park. You are absolutely correct but it is not this particular development's responsibility to provide open space for the whole neighborhood. Pigott/ And maybe it will be a combination of other developments should other spaces develop in that area in the future. That in combination how to develop that open space that you are talking about. Folk/ It sounds like you are taking away more and more of our open space. There won't be any space left for an open space park. Throg/ Here is another way to say it, Kathy. At least my effort to say it. Right now the folks that live on Quincent and Oakes and so on are surrounded by open space and it is pretty neat. I mean I have been out there quite a few times. There is plenty of open space around those subdivisions. It is all privately owned. And the only way that you can have a neighborhood park is if the city buys some land or if one of the landowners chooses, out of goodwill, to donate land to the city for a private park. Thisrepresents only areasonably accuratetranscription ofthelowa CiW council meeting of August1,1995. F080195 #5f page 11 Folk/ I understand that. Why doesn't thecity buy some of that land instead of making it into apartment buildings? Horow/ Because in the Open Space Plan there are other areas that also need parks. There are designated priorities in terms of who needs and who has more density and which neighborhoods need more open space. It comes downto that. The city doesn't have enough money to buy open space for all neighborhoods. That is the way it is. Folk/ But I would just like you to consider that because my daughter is now ten years old and we have lived there for twelve years and she has missed a lot of chances to go to a park in the neighborhood. It is going to be too late for her and for us- Horow/ My daughter has graduated from high school and she has not had that chance either. We live 0n Kirkwood Avenue. Not all neighborhoods have neighborhood open spaces right adjacent to them. We are trying to rectify that as well as we can. Folk/ I appreciate that. I just hope thut¥ou would also balance if you are taking something away fromus I fell we are still due something in terms of open space and safeness and a place for children to play and people to meet safely. Horow/ Would anyone else care to address council? Rite Arora/ 1262 Oakes Drive. And what I am here to say is that we all, the whole neighborhood, is behind the idea of affordable housing. We know there is a need and we know that it should be done. What I have been hearing is these great big apartment buildings where the kids and there are going to be a number of kids that is going to be playing out there are going to have parking lots to play in. They are going to walk over the HyVee and they are going to play in the HyVee parking lot or they are going to-The street that we are talking about, on Dubuque Road, they are going to be playing on Dubuque Road. This is the future that we envision for our kids. I mean why can't we do s.f. housing or duplexes where they gave have green space to play in front of them and don't have to go into the parking lots to play. I mean these are little kids that are going to be there for a long time. And they deserve that. They deserve to have open spaces. They deserve to have some areas to play in rather than be out on the streets playing where we are already staying and we see by the traffic counts that it is unsafe to play. The issue is not affordable housing. The issue This represents only e reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City council meeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 #5f page 12 is density and the amount and what are we giving them. They are going to build these huge complexes which everybody has shown don't work. Kubby/ We are not talking about South Chicago and 32 levels of apartments. We are talking about two story apartment buildings that are what? 8-plexes in some instances. We are not talking about the projects and we are not talking about a development. This makes me very frustrated because I hear what you are saying but it is not the affordability or the people who will live there but it is the density. But I do want to make sure that we are all talking about the same project and it might be useful if Mr. Burns could show what we are talking about so that there is not mis-information because this is not high density. This is not big apartment buildings and there are open spaces for people to play in in this development. Arora/ Where? Where? Kubby/ There is a whole outlot behind the buildings- Arora/ The ravine? There is a ravine at the back and also- Kubby/ It is. It is a form of open space but- Arora/ I understand what you are saying. Kubby/ Make sure that people are talking about the same project and for some of us tonight I feel like we are not. Arora/ I understand that and we understand that it is not Chicago but the concept that you are going to provide for them where you are taking away parking spaces. You are saying we don't have adequate parking spaces so we cut down on the number of lots that you are required to park on. We don't have ample space even to provide parking. So that is where they are going to be playing. So the concept is the same. Kubby/ There is a rationale behind the variance for reducing the parking because people don't need to make as many trips because they are near a commercial area because a household that we are talking about is not going to be having 2-3 cars. We are talking about families who are working full time who don't have 2-3 vehicles. Arora/ They have no neighborhood center to play in. They are going to have not area to play in.They don't have enough land to put This representg only a reasonably accurate transcription of tho Iowa City council meeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 #5f page 13 the parking lots in. So this is where they are going to be playing. These are the playgrounds. So the idea and the concept even though you say that it is not-We understand that it is not big high rises and stuff but the concept is the same. Kubby/ I want to make sure that the language is right. Arora/ Okay. All right. Kubby/ You can make whatever point you want but don't say these are high density because it is not. It is higher than you want. Arora/ It is not higher than we want. It is higher than what is bad for the area. It is not higher than- Kubby/ That is okay to make your point but when people- A couple of times people tonight have said high density apartments, big apartment complexes. I am disagreeing with that. Arora/ When there are more than one 8-plex put side by side it becomes high density. Anytime you put 8-plexes side by side in an area that does not call for that kind of zoning, it is high density and that is the concept that is written into our zoning ordinances. I didn't make it up. Kubby/ RS-8 is medium density. Arora/ But you are going to (can't hear). Kubby/ Agreed, the facts are there. Arora/ I am just telling you the facts. I mean that's the way it IS. Kubby/ Can you find a way to make it? Arora/ Well maybe I have a problem with the language. It's possible, but the concept that I'm trying to present is the meaning of what you're saying. We're just talking about the fact that these are little kids. And the safety, if there should be an accident, any kid, any adult die over there or anything happen over there, it's on our heads. It's dangerous. We can see it even now and it will happen in the future. And it's been on my conscience. It's something I wanted to bring up. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription ofthelowa Ci~ council meeting of August 1,1995. F080195 #5f page 14 Horow/ Thank you very much. Anyone care to address council on this issue? Baker/ Sue can I ask a question? Horow/ Oh, do you have a question? Baker/ I was wondering if Bob had the scale of the site plan itself. Not for this audience, but for the audience that might be watching this meeting, because I would suspect that the neighbors have seen the plans, so we don't need to show them again. But if you have something that we could- Burns/ Could put on the overhead? Baker/ Overhead or would work in front of a camera. Horow/ I assume that the neighborhood has been briefed by Mr. Burns. They know the size of these complexes. They know the issues that we're talking about here, okay. Baker/ Because the site plan I looked at had recreation space. Pigott/ Some space. Mary Losch/ I think most everyone in the neighborhood is extremely familiar with the site plan. We know the number of buildings and we know the square footage of the play area. And that's the basis for our concerns. Baker/ All right. I think that a lot of people who are watching this meeting tonight do not know it so it's not really for anybody here and Bob could give us some more details on that. Burns/ (Can't hear). Baker/ Sure go ahead. Horow/ Is there anyone else who cares to address council on this issue right now? Dean Thornberry/ When one desires to build or buy a home in a certain area and does all their home work regarding zoning, density, land uses and so on, and then goes ahead and locates to that area, they expect certain things. They know if there's a playground or not a playground in the area. They know what the density is for that area. They know what the land uses Thisrepresents only areesonably accurate transcription ofthelowa City council meeting of August 1,1995. F080195 #5f page 15 are. And all of a sudden a developer comes and puts a project in there having to change the zoning that you've already researched after the fact, there's just nothing you can count on then. My suggestion for this entire area is for the developer to explore the available land and it is available that is already zoned appropriately and is for sale for this project in the north side of Iowa City. Don't necessarily rezone land in a single family dwelling neighborhood when there is land available and for sale that is zoned appropriately for this project. Now I have to read this, Karen. But still, building high density affordable apartment units is unfair to the resident. And this high density thing is for Iowa City. No, it's no Cabrini Green. But it's high density to the area that they're putting it in which is single family area. That's what we're saying as far as high density. There are no apartments in that area. There's not even any duplexes in the area. Kubby/ Let's see a ratio of units per land. This is a medium density, even if we took it down to eight, it's medium. Thornberry/ There are no duplexes in the area. plexes in the area. And they're wanting don't know. There are no four- to put in what? I Audience/ (Can't hear). Thornberry/ Many, many. Of two and three bedroom apartments. That's what we're saying as far as high density compared to what's already there. Audience/ (Can't hear). Thornberry/ A duplex, zero lot line or similar would be far more favorable instead of rezoning a long standing single family area. Thank you. Horow/ Thank you. Throg/ Dean, can I ask you a question? Thornberry/ Sure. Yes, I am running. Throg/ What would it matter to me? I understood you to say that home owners should expect that zoning in their neighborhood should remain constant so that they have a sense of some durability of current zoning so that when they buy a house Thisrepresents only areasonably accuratetranscription ofthelowa City council meeting of August1,1995. F080195 #5f page 16 they know what the zoning around the house is going to be. Did I hear you say that? Thornberry/ I'm saying that when you buy or build a house, it's the largest expenditure you'll ever make in your lifetime. And when you do it and do it properly, you look at the area that you want to be in~ not necessarily who the neighbors are but the way it's zoned, etc. Yes. Throg/ Okay. So are you saying then that developers should never apply to council for rezoning? Thornberry/ On a very infrequent basis. I've been before this council and the previous council for rezoning possibility and- I'm sorry. It never got to the council. It went to P/Z. And along with staff, they recommended that I not apply for a rezoning because they did not really want to fezone the land that had already been rezoned one way. That's why I built my Burger King on land that was already zoned commercial. I have done things, built a apartment building that was already zoned for that. I have not rezoned any land in Iowa City and very very infrequently, I think, should land be rezoned. Throg/ Of course I wasn't trying to peg you. Thornberry/ In every single council meeting, I believe without exception, rezoning issues have come before this council. And I don't understand if we had a good zoning plan for the city of Iowa City, why the rezoning needs to. Throg/ But I'm simply trying to understand that developers should not apply, in apply to council to rezone their land. whether you're saying principle, should not Thornberry/ Well, when the land is vacant. You say developers. I'm saying for example, a farm. It's got to be rezoned from farm land to anything else. True. When the city of Iowa City was planned and as has got the old plan, sure, it needs to be revised periodically in area by area. But once a neighborhood is solidified, I think it should remain a neighborhood. don't think you should tear down old houses and put up fast food joints. I don't think we should tear down an old school and make a mall. I don't think that should be done. I really don't. Throg/ Okay. Thanks. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City council meeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 #5f page 17 Horow/ Thank you very much. Any one else care to address council? Bob, do you have something to say at this point? Bob Burns/ I'm a local architect. I have a great deal of information with me tonight and I've been collecting my thoughts here and working as you have. But I did want to point out to start out by saying that back in May, before we even submitted a request for rezoning, we contacted the neighborhood by contacting the neighbors within the first 200 feet within the boundary of our property and shared with them our plan. This project started out as a 66 unit multi-family housing project which is the lowest density permitted for apartments in Iowa City, RM-12, 66 units. That's what the zoning ordinance provides for. That's what we were submitting. You can see on this overhead the meeting that we had through may and into June. The problem now is that we keep hearing the same thing from the neighborhood. We've reduced the units, first to 41 units after the staff review and after input from the community, and after last night's meeting with the informal meeting with the city council, we can see that the 41 units which is at a density of 10 units per acre, is not acceptable to two of the council members. And since a super majority is required, we realized that it's not going to pass, so we are willing to accept a lower density and we have a plan. [Shows plan] This plan is for 32 apartments, office, one manager's apartment as part of a community building/core house which we are proposing for the residents for their own use and for their guests. At this point, we think it's going to be difficult to finance the community building and the manager's apartment, but we'd like you to consider that in your deliberation and we'd like P/Z to consider it if you consider this back to them. Baker/ Bob, is it the same number of buildings? Burns/ No. Baker/ It's one less building? Burns/ There's four eight-plexes. Baker/ Versus, what was the? Burns/ (Can't hear). Pigott/ Four eight-plexes. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City council meeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 #5f page 18 Throg/ Let's have the northeast one. Burns/ This is the community one. Kubby/ Marian has a laser thing so you can stand by the mic. We have a special gadget so you can stand by the mic and point. Baker/ It will burn holes in cloth. Burns/ The community building. This two bedroom eight-plex is the same location 41 unit project. To show the council what the exterior elevations of the eight-plex look like, they're two story. Pigott/ Bob, the camera's are- Burns/ That's a three bedroom eight-plex, two story. Another three bedroom eight-plex, two story. And another three eight-plex, two story. The children's play area east of the community building has been enlarged by moving this building farther to the east. Pigott/ How big is that, Bob? How big in the play area now? Burns/ This dimension would be about a 70 feet from the patio to the building and it would be about 100 feet from the sidewalk to the sidewalk. This will give you an idea of scale. What we have been able to gain by eliminating one of the 8-plexes is more open space in the northeast part of the site and that- What we were showing there is hard surface play area which is the size of a regulation half court junior high basketball court. So we have done this so we can separate the smaller children's play area from the older kids. Now this has been in the project since the beginning is a gazebo which will be a screened in gazebo for just __ recreation and a barbecue area in the center court yard. ~-~h these kind of amenities I challenge anybody to go find a project that has these kinds of amenities for 32 units in Iowa City. So there is our plan. Horow/ Okay, thank you very much. Throg/ Thanks, Bob. Horow/ We will refrain from asking you detailed questions because this particular p.h. is on the rezoning. And so that I would prefer that this does not get into smaller details. Thisrepresents only areasonably eccuratetranscriptlon ofthelowa Ci~ council meeting of August 1,1995. F080195 #5f page 19 Burns/ I have one issue on open space. Can I bring that up to you? I think it is important. We went to the Assessor's Office and calculated the 70 s.f. residences in along Bristol Drive and the three Oakes subdivisions and compared them to our site. Our site area is 178,808 square feet. The total floor area of our buildings is 38,977 square feet or what we call a green space ratio of 4.5:1. CHANGE TAPE TO REEL 95-92 SIDE 2 Bob Burns/ For the data with me. But just to give you an example, this is Hills Addition. Baker/ Why don't you move the thing over so the names don't show. Yeah. I think that is better. Burns/ This is an example of Hills Addition where we calculated the site area and the floor area from the Assessor's data and you can see the green space ratio that is lower that ours would be an example of a s.f. lot that has less open space than we have on our property and of the 70 lots, we have more than 46 of them. Kubby/ Bob, I had a question about- A couple of people have brought up the issue that there, on the north side, are some areas that would be big enough for this kind of development that are currently zoned appropriately and that they are available for sale. Could you address that? Burns/ Yes. Kubby/ Why aren't you purchasing those properties or one of those properties? Burns/ We are always open to anyone who is interested in selling their properties but to my knowledge, the one that they are talking about is Bruce Glasgow's property between Prairie du Chien and Dubuque Street and we have talked to Bruce Glasgow, we being the Fellowship and I. Met with them in my office, toured the site, talked about a location where we might be able to build a project but there is no street, there is no water, there is no sewer and there is no possibility of developing a private site that has none of those services. It is just not-He hasn't subdivided it and in fact, he doesn't own all of the property that he has to have access to get an access between Dubuque Street and Prairie du Chien. So- Thisrepresents onlyaressonsblyaccuratetranscrlption ofthelowa City council meeting of August1, 1995. F080195 ~5f page 20 Kubby/ So it is ].and that the infrastructure is not and that would increase the cost to develop. Horow/ This is an issue about the rezoning of this particular parcel. I don't want to get this particular p.h. mixed up with other aspects of what ifs. Let's stick strictly with this rezoning. Thank you, Bob. Are there any other questions for Bob? Okay, thank you. Throg/ I guess I would like to ask one. I guess in the spirit of fairness I asked Jim Stoner some pointed questions. I would like to ask you one. The information you just gave us about green space ratio was not done on a per capita basis and I think maybe if you did that on a per capita basis it would look differently. Burns/ In terms of- We are not talking about density, we are talking about open space. It was an issue that came up at the p.h. Throg/ I understand but if you have a s.f. house on a s.f. lot with 3-4 people living in the building that would help you calculate a per capita green space ratio. It is getting too complicated here. Where if you are doing the same thing for 41 units or 32 units with 3-4 people in each of the units then you would end up with a different per capita green space ratio. Burns/ I understand what you are saying, Jim. We were trying to give an example of this is not a large scale high rise type Chicago type project as it was being referred to as. Throg/ Thanks, Bob. Horow/ Does anyone else care to address council on this issue? Kubby/ While people are signing in and out I want to apologize to the audience for maybe seeming argumentative. I do think- especially to Rita. But I do think it is important that our language reflect what we really mean even though we know what we are talking about here, people who are listening in don't know. So forme my language is very important and I think we got that all cleared up. But I just wanted to apologize for the tone. Bill Sueppel/ I wasn't going to speak because I thought everything had been said. But we didn't come down here to talk about a This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City council meeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 ~5f page 21 new 32 unit plan. I think it is a disgrace. I think it is an insult to city council and it is an insult to the 86 residents. They started out with 66 units. You said you talked to somebody on May 24th. I don't know whom you talked to but I know I was never contacted until after I had spoken at a previous meeting which was in early June. I don't know who in our area was contacted but he says he contacted people within 200 feet. If you look at the map, people within 200 feet are probably 5 out of the 86. Maybe he talked to them, I don't know. But we fought the 66 when we heard about it. Then we came up with 41 which is way too high a density. Totally contrary to any concept of zoning in Iowa City with what we have adopted over the years. Forget about low rent housing. I am talking strictly zoning and comprehensive planning. It is totally contrary. Now we are down to 32. Is this the plan in the first place and if so, why didn't they come up with that plan in the first place so we could have talked reasonably about that type of a plan? I think this is an insult to the council and to the people and a terrible waste of time. I want to talk one other issue. I was shown here publicly that having a house apparently with 4978 square feet. Now my house is not 4978 square feet. I don't know where Bob got these figures. My house is 53 by 30 or something like that with a garage on it. Now maybe they are counting the driveway. Maybe they are counting my sidewalks that I have to put in to come up with 4900 feet. But addition to that, since there were no parks in that area, several of the people who initially started out there bought extra lots so we would have some place for the kids to play. I still have a vacant lot. So I really have 30~000 square feet out there for a house of about 2300 square feet. I am not sure what it is. I tell you what we did. When we see somebody looking at the lot next door we would send all of our children out there to start playing. Nobody wanted to move in. Own little playground as did several people at that time. We are talking in the mid-60's land was comparatively very cheap compared to today. And was the only reason I wanted to talk today. Jim made a very good point about per capita. I wasn't going to get into that. I mean even on the bare facts they are talking 4900 square feet homes out there. I don't want the people- 4900 square feet is a big home, folks. That is 70 by 70 if my math is correct. My home isn't 70 by 70. Further what we are doing talking about this new proposal when you have a proposal here that you are suppose to vote up or downy Horow/ We are not voting on it this evening. This evening we are taking the p.h. on. That is okay. Thisrepresents only areasonably accuratetranscriptlon ofthelowa City council meeting of August1,1995. F080195 #5f page 22 Sueppel/ Eventually you are suppose to vote Horow/ Right. Are there any questions for Bill Sueppel? Baker/ I just wanted to point out that indeed I we have all I think said that we were going to direct this back to P/Z- Decide whether we are going to take it back to P/Z but P/Z will have to talk about this new proposal before it comes back to us to evaluate. We are not evaluating this proposal tonight. Kubby/ Butwhere that came from though was a discussion last night about needing six votes to make this happen and part of the conversation was what would it take to make this happen with six votes. And one of the things was that Ernie said it has got to meet that Comp Plan which is a very legitimate statement to make and what that means is going down to 32 units and that is where it is coming from. Sueppel/ Thank you. Throg/ I guess I would like to make a brief observation in response to some of what Bill said. And that is I don't think I have met a more decent and honorable man than Bob Burns and there is no way on earth that he is trying to manipulate the people in this audience or the neighbors up there by starting off with 66 in order to weasel down to some lower number. He is a very decent and honorable person and trying to do what is right. Sueppel/ I wasn't indicating that he wasn't that but if that is what happened tonight, that is what we have got. The proposal was 66. It was proposed at 41 and tonight after everything talked about the 41 we suddenly come up with the 32. Throg/ It often happens because the initial figure proves to be totally unacceptable for enough people to make it not be viable. sueppel/ So you start high and hope you can settle low? Lehman/ I don't really think- There is no 32 proposal. He has drawn something which he may present to the P/Z Commission. But I think this is informational tonight because of last night's discussion but we are not considering a 32 unit. Sueppel/ Thank you. Thisrepresents only arsssonably accurate transcription oftbelows City councilmeeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 #5f page 23 Burns/ To answer Mr. Lehman's question. The site plan I showed you tonight, the 32 units, we came up with the design today in our office. The sketches are up in my office if you would like to go see them. With respect to the Assessor's data I took the information off of the cards and would be glad to correct them if they are wrong. Horow/ Thank you. Would anyone else care to address council on this issue? Joanne Schoenwald/ 1149 Oakes Drive. And what I want to say really addresses not only the 41 units but the 32 that he just showed. I know that the city council and other city council's across the country are under great pressure to find affordable housing in their communities. But before you do something here that is irreversible please remember that the P/Z Commission has heard all of the particulars and all of the details and in spite of their desire to approve low income affordable housing, decided unanimously that this was not the right location. Now we would need to integrate these families into our neighborhood and because their children would be going to school with our children and so fourth and that would be a very difficult thing to do if there are in 8-plexes and we are in s.f. dwellings. Now, I have delivered meals to the elderly for a number of years all over Iowa City and I have seen in neighborhoods where low income dwellings are interspersed, low income s.f. dwellings are interspersed with more expensive homes. I have seen neighbors looking out for each other and showing concern if a family needs help. For those less fortunate who live in high density apartments and by high density it could be 8-plexes, it is a very different story. The neighbors near by are rarely aware that these people exist. If they need help they call for volunteers or to city agencies. We are a group of concerned neighbors in a city that has prided itself on helping less fortunate individuals. but I would just ask the council this do you think that this approach will work any better in the northeast side of Iowa City than it has in other parts of the country? Horow/ Is there anyone else that cares to address council? Lyone Fein/ I apologize for speaking but I feel really compelled to speak on behalf of people who aren't here tonight and whose voices haven't been heard and that is the people who would potentially live in- My name is Lyone Fein and I live in an apartment in d.t. area and I can't afford a s.f. place with a big lawn and trees on it and I feel like I have to speak for Thisrepresents only areasonably accuratetranscription ofthelowa Ci~ council meetlngofAugost1,1995. F080195 #5f page 24 the other people who also can't afford that. I feel like tonight I have heard these people say, although I hate talking like that- Tonight I have heard the people in this neighborhood who are concerned about this development say that they are for affordable housing but I think what they are saying is that they are for it as long as it is not in their neighborhood. They are concerned about children playing in parking lots but if you can't afford to buy a s.f. dwelling in your neighborhood then people like myself who have to live in d.t. while our children can just play on Burlington Street or something like that. I think that these are some of the things that are intimated by the things that were said tonight and I just found myself getting more and more upset by it. I think people who can't afford s.f. houses have a right to live in places where there is grass and trees. Where they are not constantly hearing fire and police sirens going by at all times of the night. Where they are not being woken up in the middle of the night by drunken college students walking past and they have to put their children to sleep again at that, you know, 2:00 in the morning. I don't know. I guess that is all I have to say. Throg/ Thanks, Lyone. Horow/ All right, I would ask if there is anyone who wishes to address council about any other aspect of this that has not already been discussed. Otherwise we will be closing the p.h. Kubby/ Shouldn't we continue the p.h? Horow/ I think this is at the point where we can close it and take the comments and I would ask council to refer this back to P/Z. Karr/ Could we accept correspondence? Horow/ Moved by Kubby, seconded by Baker, to accept correspondence. Any discussion? There is a motion on the floor about correspondence acceptance. All those in favor signify by saying aye (ayes). Kubby/ Linda, if we refer this back to P/Z asking them to look at a lower density project, is that considered a significant change going from 41 to 31 that we need to re-advertise a p.h? Woito/ Yes. Basically you will be starting over. So you can either close the p.h. and have a motion to refer it back. You close Thisrepresents only areasonably accurate transcription ofthelowa Citycoun~lmaetlng of August1,1995. F080195 #5f page 25 the p.h. and have a vote. Horow/ Declare the p.h. closed. The Chair would entertain a motion to refer the subject under discussion right now back to P/Z Commission with the intent to investigate decrease in density as well as discussed last evening the provision in some way of controlling development on the southerly three acres. This is the discussion that we had last evening. Moved by Kubby, seconded by Baker. Discussion. Kubby/ I think it is important to explain why the second item and that was a concern that Ernie brought to the table to say if the land south of where this development is proposed is going to be rezoned we need to have some controls over the zoning and one way to have more control over the what actually happens in the development even down to where trees are is to have it also be OPDH-8 and that way we have to go through a public process, it has to come through council and they is recourse for public that if what actually gets developed is not what is on that OPDH plan our H.I.S. has some power to rectify that. So it is the (can't hear) for the neighborhood. Lehman/ Yeah, I am concerned about that because it would be possible to put at the 41 level a 70 units on that corner. I think that is absolutely inappropriate. I did say last night that I am not opposed to referring this back to P/Z but I don't want that to be interpreted that I will vote in favor of a lesser density. I am willing to look at it. I think there is a lot of things about this plan that staff did that we asked them to do. We asked them to find different locations around town. They did that. There are a lot of things about it that are good. There are things about it that aren't so good. I feel kind of sorry for staff. All of the work that has been done basically on our direction and now we have a problem about that. but,just because it goes back to P/Z I don't want that to be interpreted that I will favor a lesser density. Horow/ But you are not willing to say no at this point? Lehman/ I am willing to look at it. Pigott/ But that is frustrating in a way. I feel frustrated by that because what could happen is we continue a process which I don't know what your likelihood is, Ernie, But if we continue a process, the neighbors are going to come down again. They are going to be put through agony of fighting something that Thisrepresents only areasonably accuratetranscription ofthelowa City council meeting of August1,1995. F080195 #5f page 26 I fear them saying they are not in favor of even at a lower density. That is going to be another 6-1 majority we are looking at. Mr. Burns is going to be put through a process which, you know, it may be something that he is not going to enjoy and delays him from looking at other property. I am in favor of sending it back to P/Z. I just want to state that. But I also think that I don't want to waste the staff time or the neighbors time or Mr. Burn's time if what is going to happen and I know you are saying you can't guarantee one way or the other that we come at the end. Horow/ And the way to do that is to defeat the referral back to P/Z and take the vote on whether or not there is an extraordinary majority for this this evening. Woito/ It will have to be the following meeting. Throg/ Sue, I would think it is not a good idea to refer this to P/Z if in fact we could get a super-majority. I think we should have a super-majority and I want to explain why because it is clear we are not going to have it. I want to explain why. It seems two main questions come to mind as I think about this particular proposal. One is do we want to insure safety and affordable housing is provided for our lower income neighbORS. ~nd secondly, if so, then where shall that housing be located. Some argue that the people of the community acting through their government have no housing responsibility towards their low income counterparts and they say we ought to kind of just leave this to the market. Well, the record is clear that the market is not going to provide the kind of housing that is needed unless it is provided with incentives. Without governmental action, therefore, lower income people will either be left homeless or else forced to find housing in towns outside of Iowa City. And I believe that just as the government should help people own s.f. homes by permitting income tax deductions for home mortgages. So, too, should the people of the community help the low income neighbors have access to housing they can afford. so how to do that. Once approach which Mary Losch rightly notes has not worked well and has been turned away from is to build concentrated ghettos of high rise apartments populated by very low income people. Bad idea. People are moving away from that. Robert homes in Chicago is a good example. A second approach is to disperse lower income families throughout the community. Either by providing rental subsidies or by providing people or by letting people live in scattered site s.f. housing owned by the local government. This approach has proven more effective This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City council meeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 #5f page 27 than the first by often encounters opposition from wealthier communities that don't want lower income people living near them. Of course we could let those families just wonder the streets looking for a place to live. Saratoga Springs, in my judgement, is clearly not a concentrated ghetto of low income people living in high rise apartments. Clearly not. It is only 41 units. About ten units per acre rather than the 1000 or more units typically found in what we call the projects. Very different. It is also clearly not an instance of concentrated lower income citizens in one area. It is only 41 families out of about 2000 families in the community that need affordable housing. Several months ago we rightly chose not to continue concentrating lower income families in the southeast part of town. If not in the southeast part of town, then where? I think this particular location is very well suited for development of this type. I also remember a moment when my second son was born. I lived in a 48 unit apartment complex in Los Angeles, right. And that morning my wife awoke and said oh my gosh, I am bleeding and you women know what I am talking about when she said that. She was nine months pregnant and we were terrified. We thought this child was dead inside her. So I ran down the hallway, not the hallway. I ran down the garden pathway to the next apartment unit over and got my friend, Dr. Tony, that is his first name, Tony, and said help, help, help, you know, Mary is bleeding. He came down and helped us work through that and turned out I now have this wonderful 14 year old son. This doesn't strike me as the kind of place where, you know, there is (can't hear) where nobody knows each other just because they are low income people and we were low income people at the time and just because we lived in an apartment unit, it wasn't a bad place to live. So, what I want to say is from my own experience and from my heart I think it is just great for some people to live in multi-family units and this is a good location for it. Thanks. Horow/ Does anyone else care to address- Kubby/ Jim, you had said kind of at the beginning that you didn't think it was good to refer it back to P/Z. I am still unclear why. Throg/ Well, I mean I think we should vote and have- I think all of us should support it. I am trying to encourage all of us to support it but that is not going to happen so when-It ought to go back to P/Z and things will happen the way they are going to happen. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the iowa City council meeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 #5f page 28 Horow/ But from my point of view, by referring it back to P/Z we are really only delaying a decision to be made. Kubby/ Ernie at this point can't say no. Baker/ I would rather delay the decision than have a decision I disagree with which is the way it looks right now. Okay, I want to get clear what we are asking P/Z to look at because there were other issues raised here tonight and if it was density and control of the undeveloped portion of this total area. Are we saying once we get those resolved comfortably the other issues fall into place. Horow/ I guess I have faith enough in P/Z that when they take this issue they look at all the aspects of ito They are looking at land use and land use certainly, to me, brings in many of the issues that were raised here. Throg/ But it doesn't have anything to say about the income status of the people who might be living there. Kubby/ Bring up a traffic issue that Larry might be getting at. Baker/ What I am trying to get at is that we can reach some resolution because we have narrowed down the point of disagreement where we can't agree. At least six people can't agree. And if we can get those issues resolved - I mean we can't say right now it is going to pass with 6 votes in the future. But I am trying to figure out if something is going to pop up. Horow/ That is interesting because for me I would like to ask CCN to address the issue that there will be no, to our understanding as of lat evening when the neighborhood center board has not had the ability to have a housed program and staff there for the low income families. We have done this in the Broadway Apartments and the Pheasant Ridge. Kubby/ Those are many more units. Horow/ We are talking- We went from mixed units. Do you remember last night, my concern was that this project went from 66 units of a mixed nature, of mixed incomes, down to a concentrated 41 of just low income and that to me is a very real problem based on the various boards and commissions that I sit on and listen to the problems that come out of that. Thisrepresents only are~onsbly accuratetranscrlpttonofthelowaCIw councilmeeting of August1,1995. F080195 #5f page 29 Kubby/ Not all people who are 50% median income are on welfare or have fragile situations in their households. Horow/ You still can have enough of a problem presented that the programs that we have at the neighborhood centers are able to alleviate. This remains a problem for me. I would ask CCN to address this issue. Murray/ I realize that this is a problem for you and I will be happy to bring this up at our meeting next week and I will notify you and have you sit down to talk with you about what CCN decides on this issue. Baker/ (Can't hear) because of the financing issue as well. Kubby/ That is their purview. Not really services. Council/ (All talking). Horow/ Wait a minute, Karin- Franklin/ In terms of the Housing Commission and CCN meeting that is scheduled for next week, those are looking at the 41 unit project. Until we have a project they can't do their evaluation of the specific project. So I think in terms of those meetings next week, we will have to reconsider them. If this is going to go back to the P/Z Commission, if that is your decision tonight, then we will reschedule those meetings to look at the specific project. Horow/ I think your point is well taken and a referral back to P/Z is what we had the p.h. on. That of the 41 units. There is no proposal into P/Z for 32. Kubby/ But how this came about is the question targeted to people who were saying this is not acceptable. To say what would it take to make this acceptable and your answer was basically you can't fix this. I can't support this which (can't hear). And Ernie said these are a couple of things that would make me not say no but I need to think about it and so really Larry's question is really to Ernie saying are there any other issues because now is the time to speak. Lehman/ When does Naomi get back? Kubby/ Ernie, it is you. This rspresents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the iowa City council roesting of August 1, 1995. F080195 #5f page 30 Lehman/ I am just saying that if Naomi has a strong feeling against this there is no point in going any further. Kubby/ But we don't know that so we need to move ahead with the information that is available. Horow/ She doesn't get back until the 8th of August. Kubby/ A week. Horow/ There is a motion on the floor to refer this back to P/Z. Kubby/ I guess I just want to hear Ernie say there aren't other issues or that- Lehman/ Those are the two that concern me the most. Throg/ Is one of the two the point about neighborhood (can't hear)? centers Lehman/ No, density and control of the adjacent property. Kubby/ That helps me know that we are being clear as we can be at the moment. Horow/ Okay, there is a motion on the floor. All those in favor of referral back to P/Z please indicate by saying aye (ayes). Opposed (aye-Horow). Back to P/Z, 5-1, with Horow voting no. Kubby/ I also want to thank Larry for his note to us yesterday saying-For me the message from Larry was if we are going to be serious about helping-providing affordable housing ourselves through zoning, through incentives, through direct subsidies, we need to get it together here to know what is acceptable to a majority and maybe a majority so that we can help facilitate the lion-profits and for-profits coming together and whatever kinds of entities happen. I know that there are some people from the neighborhood who are talking about getting involved in this issue as a result of these discussions saying how can we get involved in these affordable housing which I think is very commendable in the neighborhood. To say our conscience has been raised, that this is an issue, we want to get involved in helping provide some solutions for the community. Horow/ I would say the other neighborhoods throughout the city should equally get involved in this. It has distressed me that at p.h.s that we have had, both for the CHAs and STEPS, those This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City council meeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 #5f page 31 people who have been there in full have been the people who are in need. Not the people in whose neighborhoods they might fill up. And I think this is something that the city of Iowa City really is going to have to take seriously. Either you do or you don't and you elect people who think your way or not. It is a very frustrating situation. Kubby/ I appreciate your memo to us and think we should act on what Larry suggested. Horow/ Thank you very much. Thisrepresents only areosonably accuratetranscrlptlon of ~elowa City council meetingof August1,1995. F080195 #Sg page 1 NO. $g. Consider a resolution to annex approximately 103.86 acres, which includes the Highway 218/Highway 1 interchange and property located in the southwest quadrant of the interchange. (ANN95-0001) Horow/ Moved by Lehman, seconded by Baker. Discussion. Kubby/ I have a few questions about Kitty Lee Road and it is on a letter from Regina Alatalo. Anyway, Regina wrote us a letter and I know that we have heard from the Board of Supervisors about Seeley Road in the past and after annexation will the intersection of Kitty Lee Road and Highway 1 be in the jurisdiction of the county or the city? Franklin/ It will continue to be in the jurisdiction of the county. This annexation has nothing to do with Kitty Lee Road. Kubby/ I am sorry to ask the question. It is the appropriate time. Franklin/ No, I think what she was referring to was the traffic on Highway 1 and indicating there was a problem now that she felt with too much traffic on Highway 1. It was addressing the intersection of Kitty Lee Road and Highway 1 and traffic coming out of Kitty Lee Road onto Highway 1. Kubby/ Right. Right. Franklin/ But I think what she was concerned about was that the annexation for Winebrenner's was going to increase the traffic on Highway 1. Kubby/ Right but my question-To me the issue is traffic flows down on Highway i to turn onto Kitty Lee Road and that when there are businesses near this area that as the traffic flows down to get into this business near the commercial area that that causes traffic problems. So there may need to be some turning lanes to get into the area. That is kind of a deduction I am making- Franklin/ Into the Winebrenner's area? Kubby/ Right. What issues do we need to think about in terms of safe turn on into this commercial area once it is annexed? Franklin/ Okay because the Kitty Lee Road is a residential area. Kubby/ Okay. Let me start over. How far away is Kitty Lee Road, the Thlsrepresents only areasonably accuratetranscription of thelowa Ci~ council meeting of August1,1995. F080195 #5g page 2 turn off from Highway 1 from the interchange? Franklin/ I don't know that precisely. Kitty Lee road is west of Naples I believe. There may at some point as this area develops on both sides of Naples Avenue, there may be a need at some future time for either right turn lane or left turn lane. But this would be considerably in the future. Kubby/ For this commercial area having four or five car dealerships, P/Z didn't think that we needed to do anything with traffic as part of the conditional rezoning to make sure that traffic could flow down and safely get in ? Franklin/ No, there was never a question of the capacity of Highway 1 at all. Horow/ Any other issues? Kubby/ I guess I should have asked- Throg/ Karin, I understand that we have site plan review authority over this particular annexation. Is that right? Franklin/ Yes. Throg/ What does that consist of and can you give us and the audience some sense of what authority we have and what kind of factors we would look at in a site plan? I guess I want to urge us to be pretty aggressive in what we look for. Franklin/ When the building permit comes in for whatever they wish to develop on the property, presumably they will have some office and display area, auto repair, the things that normally go with car dealerships. There will be a site plan submitted which will be reviewed by H.I.S. and Engineering and Planning and we will look at the layout of this site, the traffic circulation on the site, access to it,screening, lighting. Lighting may be of particular concern because the proximity of the airport. But we also look at that very closely with auto dealerships, too. We will be looking somewhat at the building but not at design for the building. Primarily circulation on the site, screening and lighting and the usual zoning requirements of setback type (can't hear). Throg/ So, I guess I would like to urge you and council and the owners to think in terms of a contribution to the city. Not just in terms of economically but in terms of providing an Thisrepresents only areasonably accuratetranscription ofthelowa City council meeting ofAugustl, 1995. F080195 #5g page 3 attractive and appealing part of I am sure the owners have that like to (can't hear). Thank you. an entryway to the in mind anyhow. But city and I would Horow/ Thank you. Any more questions? Pigott/ Without annexation, the county would-this is going in under the county's jurisdiction. Do they have the same sort of site plan review in the county. Franklin/ No. You have to get a building permit but there is not inspections afterwards and they did not have site plan review as we know it. They have a planned commercial zone. However that is not what was being pursued with the county as far as the zoning was concerned. The review would not be of the type that we would give it. Horow/ Any other issues? Roll call-(yes). Karr/ Madam Mayor, could we except correspondence on this one also? Horow/ Moved by Kubby, seconded by Lehman. Any alscusslon. All those in favor signify by saying aye (ayes). The Mayor would like to take the prerogative of moving the agenda over to Item #15 at this late hour- This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City council meeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1. 1995 Page 9 h= Consider an ordinance amending the Zoning Ordinance by amending the use regulations of an approximate 103.86 acres, which includes the Highway 218/Highway I inter- change and property located in the southwest quadrant of the interchange from County RS, Suburban Residential. to C1-1, Intensive Commercial. (REZ95-0011) (First consideration) Comment: At its June 1 §, meeting, by a vote of 6-0, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of this rezoning. This recommendation is consistent with the staff recom .m. endation contained in the staff report dated June /~o,o~ 15. No pubhc comments were received at the J~ly 18 public hear,ng on his item. ?t.~/~,'.~-~l : Consider an ~rdinance amending the Zoning Ordinance by amending the use regulations of an approximate 0.82 acre tract of land. the north portion of Lot 4. Highlander First Addition. which is located on Northgate Drive from RDP, Research Development Park, to CO-1. Commercial Office. (REZ95-0008) (First consideration) Comment: At its June 15, meeting, by a vote of 6-0, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of the requested Northgate Drive rezoning. This recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in a staff memorandum dated June 15. The applicant has request- ed expedited consideration of this item. No public comments were received at the July 18 public hearing. #5i page ITEM NO. 5i. Consider an ordinance amending the Zoning Ordinance by amending the use regulations of an approximate 0.82 acre tract of land, the north portion of Lot 4, Highlander First Addition, which is located on Northgate Drive from RDP, Research Development Park, to CO-i, Commercial Office. (REZ95-0008) (First consideration) Horow/ Moved by Kubby, seconded by Pigott, first consideration. Any comments? Roll call- (yes). First consideration. Next meeting if council wishes to consider the expedited consideration, we will take it up at that point. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City council mooting of August 1, 1995. F080195 Agenda ..... ' .... .' ' ' Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1, 1995 Page 10 Consider an ordinance amending the conditional zoning agree- ment for Lots 4-17, Highlander First Addition, revising the development standard pertaining to rooflines and parapet walls. (REZ95-0008) (First consideration) Comment: At its June 15, meeting, by a vote of 6-(~, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of revising the development standards for Northgate Corporate Park by repealing Section 10.30.3 which required flat rooflines and replacing it with language that supports consistency, but does not specify a required design for rooflines and parapet walls throughout the corporate park. This recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the staff memorandum dated June 15, No public comments were received at the July 18 public hearing on his item. Action: Consider an ordinance vacating a 20-foot wide alley located east of Gilbert Court and immediately north of Lot 4 of Block 3, Lyon's Addition. (VAC95-0002) (First consideration) )'~4~¢_.~ Comment: At its June 15, meeting, by a vote of 5-(~, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of the requested alley vacation, subject to the retention of a five- foot easement along the north edge of the subject alle~ for storm sewer and ditch maintenance, and subject to the retention of easements for any utility that may exist within this right-of-way. This recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation set forth in the June 15 staff report. No utilities exist within the right-of-way, so no easements are needed. No public comments were received at the July 18 public hearing on his item. #5j page 1 ITEM NO. $j. Consider an ordinance amending the conditional zoning agreement for Lots 4-17, Highlander First Addition, revising the development standard pertaining to rooflines and parapet walls. (REZ95- 0008) (First consideration) Horow/ Moved by Kubby, seconded by Throg. Throg/ I think we need flat roof lines. Horow/ Comments have to do with flat roof lines. After all the time we spent putting together the standards for this Northgate Corporate Park, I tend to agree with you. Kubby/ But this doesn't negate the need for compatibility among our buildings. It just says your options are greater than just flat roof lines. So I don't think that that spirit has been negated at all. It provides more flexibility. Horow/ Any other real discussion? Kubby/ That was real for me. Horow/ Roll call- (yes). First consideration is adopted, 6-0. Thlsrepresents only areasonably accurate transcription ofthelowa Citycouncil meeting of August1,1995. F080195 Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1, 1995 Page '11 Consider an ordinance amending City Code Title 14, Chapter 6, entitled "Zoning," Article S, entitled "Performance Stan- dards," Sections 108 and 10C, concerning the location of underground storage tanks. (First consideration) Comment: At its June 15, meeting, by a vote of 5-0, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of amending Section 14-6S-10B by repealing all references to underground storage tanks, and amending Section 14-6S-10C by including all underground flammable and combustible liquid storage tanks, not just those associated with filling stations under the governance of the Iowa City Uniform Fire 'Code, except the minimum distance between underground bulk storage tanks and any residential zone boundary shall be at least ten feet. This recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the staff memorandum dated June 15. No public comments were received at the July 18 public hearing on his item. A c t ion: ~-~,~.~.,)/'/~.~~2 Consider a resolution approving a Chapter 28E agreement between the City of Iowa City and the City of Hills establish- ing a boundary governing extraterritorial review authority and annexations, Comment: At its July 20 meeting, by a vote of 7-0, the Planning .and Zoning Commission recommended approval of this agreement. The Commission's recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation, Action:...~. ' '- #5m page 1 NO. Sin. Consider a resolution approving a Chapter 28E agreement between the City of Iowa City and the City of Hills establishing a boundary governing extraterritorial review authority and annexations. Horow/ Moved by Pigott, seconded by Throg. this-It would be helpful if staff, explains what this is all about. Discussion. I think at Ms. Franklin, kind of Franklin/ This pertains to the city's ability to review subdivisions in a two mile territorial area. Hills and Iowa city both have the authority to review subdivisions within two miles of their boundaries and these areas overlap. We are mutually agreeing with Hills that we will review subdivisions north of the line. They will review subdivisions south of the line so that we don't (can't hear). Horow/ Thank you very much. Any questions? Roll call-(yes). Thanks. Resolution is adopted. Thisrepresents only areasonably accuratetranscription oftholowa Cl~ council meeting of August1,1995. F080195 Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1, 1995 Page 12 q5 - zz H- n. Consider a resolution vacating Fox Hollow Subdivision, a 31- lot, 62.21 acre subdivision located north of Herbert Hoover Highway and west of Taft Avenue, (VAC95-0003) Comment: At its June 15 meeting, by a vote of 5-O, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of vacating the Fox Hollow Subdivision, This recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the staff report dated June 15, No pufilic comments were received at the July 18 public hearing on his item. Consider a resolution approving the final plat of Boyrum Subdiv. ision, Part 4-, a 3-lot, 11.67 acre commercial subdivi- sion located south of Highway 6 between Boyrum Street and Waterfront Drive. ~ Comment: At its July'6 meeting, by a vote of 6-0, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of the final plat of Boyrum Subdivision, subject to approval of legal. papers by the City Attorney's Office and construction plans by the Public Works Department prior to City Council consideration of the plat. The leg'al papers and the construc- tion plans have been approved, The Commission's recommen- dation is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the staff report dated July 6. Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1, 1995 Page 13 ITEM NO. 6 - Consider a resolution approving the final plat of Longfellow Manor, a 7.64 acre, 20 lot, residential subdivision located on the south side of the 1300 block of Sheridan Avenue. (60- day limitation period: waived.) (SUB94-0012) Comment: At its September ~, 1994, meeting, by a vote of 6-0, the Planning & Zoning Commission recommended approval of the final plat of Longfellow Manor, subject to 1) approval of the legal papers by the City Attorney;s office prior to Council consideration of the final plat, 2) placement of a note on the final plat and incorporation of language into the subdivider's agreement permitting use of the private drive for maintenance vehicles, pedestrians and bicyclists, and 3) appropriate grading and seeding of Outlot 1 prior to City acceptance of the public open space. The Commission's recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the staff report dated September 1, 1994. On October 11, 1994, the Council deferred this item indefinitely. The plat could not be approved at that time because a County Treasurer's certificate had not been submitted. A County Treasureds certificate has now been submitted and the final plat is in order for approval. PUBLIC HEARING ON PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS, FORM OFCONTRACT, AND ESTIMATE OF COST FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE IOWA CITY LANDFILL LEACHATE LIFT STATION CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. Comment: This project will provide a new lift station with improved capacity to pump leachate from the landfill to the wastewater treatment plant to meet all state and federal regulations. The Engineer's construc- tion cost estimate is t~545,600. Funding for this project will be provided by landfill ~evenues. Action: #5p page 1 IT~ MO. 5p. consider a resolution approving the final plat of Longfellow Manor, a 7.64 acre, 20 lot, residential subdivision located on the south side of the 1300 block of Sheridan Avenue. (60-day limitation period: waived.) (SUB94-0012) Horow/ This is a resolution approving Longfellow Manor. However, the legal papers are not in order and the applicant has asked to defer to August 15. Moved by Kubby, seconded by Lehman. Discussion. All those in favor signify by saying aye (ayes). Wow. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the iowa City council roosting of August 1, 1995. F080195 #6 page ITEM NO. 6 - PUBLIC HEARING ON PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS, FORM OF CONTP, ACT~ AND ESTI~TE OF COST FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE IOWA CITY LANDFILL LEACHATE LIFT STATION CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. Horow/ Declare the p.h. open. Declare the p.h. closed. Kubby/ We were talking about one little part of our landfill operation. Doing an upgrade on it is $500,000. It just emphasizes how costly waste is. Thisrepresents only areasonably accuratetranscription of ~slowa Citycouncil meeting of August1,1995. F080195 Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1, 1995 Page 14 ITEM NO, 7 - 95- ~-~(0 ITEM NO. 8 - CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS, · FORM OF CONTRACT, AND ESTIMATE OF COST FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE IOWA CITY LANDFILL LEACHATE LIFT STATION CONSTRUC- TION PROJECT, ESTABLISHING AMOUNT OF BID SECURITY TO ACCOMPANY EACH BID, DIRECTING CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH ADVERTISEMENT FOR BIDS, AND FIXING TIME AND PLACE FOR RECEIPT OF BIDS AT 10:30 A.M., AUGUST 22, 1995. Comment: See comment above. Action: :~'~.~.// ~)~/~ ~'-~J'/ ~ PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CONVEYANCE OF CITY-OWNED PROPERTY AT 1109 FIFTH AVENUE, Comment: This is a continuation of the Public Hearing on July 18, 1995. Staff has selected eligible low to moderate income buyers for the property, subject to approval by a local lending institution. The property will be sold at the appraised value of 985,000 and the City will hold a second mortgage to maintain affordability. A resale agreement will ensure that this home will remain affordable to a low to moderate income household for fifteen years. Action: .~'~ ~ ITEM NO. 9 - ITEM NO. 10 - CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CONVEYANCE OF CITY- OWNED PROPERTY AT 1109 FIFTH AVENUE TO BRADLEY AND ELIZABETH JOHNSON. Comment: See Item above. Action= Previously announced vacancies. (1) Housing and Community Development Commission: (a) Three vacancies for one-year terms ending September 1, 1996. #8 page ITEM NO. 8 - PUBLIC HF2~RING ON THE CONVEYANCE OF CITY-OWNED PROPERTY AT 1109 FIFTH AVENUE. Horow/ P.h. is now in session. Anyone wish to address council on this? Lyone Fein/ Can I just ask- My name is Lyone Fein, thanks for reminding me of that. I just wanted to ask if somebody could define what low and moderate income levels. Numbers- Horow/ Right, there are numbers and we throw them around from time to time. Karin, do you have them at the tip of your tongue? Franklin/ Low to moderate income is defined by the median income for a particular geographical area. Low to moderate is 80% of median income or less and that figure of the income level varies with the number of people in the family. I don't have those income levels but I can get them for you. Throg/ There is a formal definition for a particular program. Franklin/ They are formal definitions that are set by the Department of Housing and Urban Development. Horow/ (Can't hear). Any other comments? Okay. Close the p.h. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City council meeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 #9 page 1 ITEM NO. 9 - CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CONVEYANCE OF CITY-OWNED PROPERTY AT 1109 FIFTH AVENUE TO BBADLEY AND ELISABETH JOHNSON. Horow/ Moved by Kubby, seconded by Pigott. Any discussion? Kubby/ You know, earlier there was lots of discussion about affordable housing and we talk about strategies. We need to have lots of different strategies for providing different kinds of housing. Having apartment complexes in a neighborhood is one strategy that we have not been successful. We might be successful in the future in doing. This is another strategy where there are infill lots that we can purchase. The modular home that was put together in the factory, taken to the site and put together. Ann Bovbjerg is here as part of the crew tonight and she did a video about it and I am not sure where that video will be available. Probably Public Library or Public Access-Government channel if anybody wants to see that. But this is another strategy to providing affordable housing within currently developed neighborhoods. Pigott/ And it is good because it helps scatter affordability with other areas. Horow/ You know, it is interesting though, the discussion that Doug Russell had this evening about the integrity of the neighborhood, appropriateness. This house fits into that neighborhood beautifully. They have done a very very good job on it. It is well worth looking at. Roll call-(yes). Resolution is adopted. This represents only a reasonably accurate transc.~iptlon of the Iowa City council meeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1, 1995 Page 15 ITEM NO. 11 - (b) Three vacancies for two-year terms ending September 1, 1997, (c) Three vacancies for three-year tsrms ending September 1, 1998. These appointments will be made at the August 29, 1995, meeting of th~ City Council. CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS. Consider an appointment to the Mayor's Youth Employment Board for a three-year term ending August 4, 1998. Comment: No applications have been received for this vacancy, Item No. 20 on this agenda rescinds the two resolutions esta. blishing the MYEP and approving their bylaws, If Council approves this resolution, there is no further action required for this appointment, Action: ~--~_~_,~~ ITEM NO. 12 - CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION. ITEM NO. 13 - REPORT ON ITEMS FROM THE CiTY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY. a. City Manager. #11 page 1 ITEM NOo 11 - CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS. Consider an appointment to the Mayor's Youth Employment Board for a three-year term ending August 4, 1998. Horow/ This item has been rescinded because we will be dealing with Item #20. Essentially rescinding the establishment of the Mayor's Youth Employment Program and approving their by-laws. We do not need any further action on this appointment, of course, we haven't rescinded it. Karr/ You can always come back to it if you don't. Horow/ Okay. This represents only a reasonably accurate t~anscrlptlon of the Iowa City council meeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 #12 page 1 ITEM NO. 12 - CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION. Kubby/ I wondered if people had a chance to look at some of the animal issues in the code and if people wanted to pass any of those, any or all of them, onto the Animal Control Advisory Committee. Baker/ I apologize. I have not looked at that. Kubby/ I will bring it up at our next informal. Baker/ I will be ready. Kubby/ Today was the first day that people in Iowa City and West Branch could call each other without it being a toll call and at 12:02 yesterday I received the first call with the new system from some people in West Branch and we were live on West Branch Public Access. So it was quite an honor. It will be easier for people in West Branch and Iowa City to communicate in an affordable manner. I also want to offer some congratulations to an Iowa City resident, Jan Corderman, who will probably no longer be an Iowa City resident but just a visiting guest. She will become president of AFSCME, which is the largest employees union in Iowa. She won that election by a 3-1 vote. She is the first women president. It is very exciting to have an Iowa City resident hold that. So, congratulations. Throg/ Well, Sue, I would like to mention two things. We have- The city has prepared, a city staff, has prepared a draft Economic Development Policy for the council to consider adopting and I understand that it will be on our agenda, formal agenda, maybe next meeting, the 15tho Maybe the meeting after that. I am not sure about that. 15th or 29th almost certainly and I would like to encourage anyone who is interested in our economic development policy to request a copy of it, read it and be prepared to come in and comment about it. The other thing I would like to mention is during our discussion of Saratoga Springs I referred to the complicated birth of my second son. That occurred on July 26, 1981. So I would like to do my best imitation of colleague Larry Baker and wish my wonderful son, Paul, happy birthday. Pigott/ Sue, we were discussing China and women's issues just a little while ago and I wanted to express thanks to our Congressman Jim Leach for something that he recently signed a letter demanding that an American citizen, Harry Wu, we This reprsse;tts only areasonably accurate transcription oftholowa City council meeting of August 1,1995. F080195 #12 page 2 released from China and I was really happy that he did that. Part of the reason that I gave him a call is that as a citizen I am concerned that Americans be held against their will in China and so I hope that this letter that is going to the Chinese government and to the President of the United States has some effect in negotiation for the release of Harry Wu. Anyway, it is good that our Congressman pays attention to its constituents and to welfare of American citizens abroad. Kubby/ We have a whole list of things we will have you call him about. You are pretty effective. Horow/ Anything else, Bruno? Baker/ Actually I got a call at 12:01 from West Branch. Some guy claimed to be Herbert Hoover but I didn't believe it, so- I have one serious thing first. Karen referred memo that I passed around last night and again, I don't need to discuss it but if there is indeed a sense that maybe we can do something in the future, a formal discussion. Kubby/ We have got to. Pigott/ I agree. Baker/ Again, no immediate-I don't think there is an urgency of something out there that is coming to us after Saratoga but (can't hear). Okay, I appreciate that. Now, Jim makes me feel- I was going to say that a year ago I would have said I was the only person on this council who was having fun. But I think you people have come a long way. Even Karen, a little rigid, but she is having a lot more fun it seems like. And the reason I bring that up is because my daughter- No, I am having more fun. Last night was extremely fun for me. You and I talked about that. Something came to the attention of one of my close family members and handed it over to me and said there is a recent-One of our alternative newspapers had the Best of Iowa City. We can't advertise for them. But it was not the Press citizen. Kubby/ It is not an alternative paper, it is our Iowa City- Baker/ It is smart news and entertainment. I am sorry. So, when they had the Best of Iowa City, I immediately looked for my name in there and discovered that I was not voted Iowa City's Best Politician and I called up my seven hard core supporters and asked them what they were doing wrong in getting the word This represents only a masonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City council meeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 #12 page 3 out on me and I made a promise to my daughter, my daughter Jennifer, that I would be much better in the coming year and will have a lot more competition for this honor next year. So, Jenny, I am going to work in that. So- Kubby/ You need to become more rigid in order to get that designation. Baker/ I have to be more flexible. Kubby/ You ask 20 people who know me at various levels and rigid is not a word that most people- Baker/ Oh, I can think of 20 more. Horow/ Okay, any other thing that you have, Mr. Baker? Baker/ No, I am glad that we are all having a good time. Horow/ Speaking of good times- Last week I had the pleasure of being on the Freshman orientation Reception at the IMU and as a parent of a new freshman at a different institution I can tell you, Iowa City really does it up right. We had volunteers greeting all the parents. The parents were dumbfounded that the Mayor would be there, #1. But they were dumbfounded that all the businessman and women and officials would be there. We talked about the city, laughed and joked with them. They had a good time and we fed them dinner and they really really appreciate that. Some next time, anybody asks you to volunteer for the Freshman Orientation Reception in the middle of the summer, do it. It is a lot of fun. Speaking about fun, I would also like to say Coralville, you pulled off a class act. That was #1. Joanne Hora, , and Kelly Hayworth, you are good. That was fun. Henry Herwig and I went around a little golf course wagon at 11:00 PM. We were trying to create a scandal but nobody really said- Kubby/ $39,000 worth of beer in six hours was sold. Horow/ Think of the property taxes that are going to needed to take care of the people when they are alcoholics. Sorry about that. Kubby/ Two beers is not an alcoholic. Pigott/ I thought the Iowa City Police did a good job out there. Horow/ Yeah, they did. They really did. It really was fantastic. I Thisrepresents only areesonably accur~etranscrlptlon ofthelowa Citycouncil meeting of August1,1995. F080195 #12 page 4 would like to read an article from our Human Rights Commission that appeared in the Press Citizen this week and it is A Reaction To Bigotry Is What Counts Most is the title of it. (Reads article). This was sent in by the Iowa City Human Rights Commission: Alison Ames Galstad, Patricia Harvey, Ann Shires, Mel Dautremont, Ken Gatlin, Joan Jehle, Dorothy Paul, Osha Gray Davidson, and Diane Martin. These are your representatives on the HP Commission appointed by council. And we appreciate their taking an immediate response. Kubby/ Thank you for reading that and I think the reason-You had asked our permission to read it tonight and I think the reason I gave permission is because I think council concurs with those sentiments and that we didn't need to write the same letter but really thank the HR Commission for expressing those views. Horow/ That is all. Thisrepresents only are~onabl¥ accuratetranscription ofthelowa City council meeting of August 1,1995. F080195 · Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1, 1995 Page 16 b. City Attorney. ITEM NO. 14 - RECOMMENDATIONS OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. Consider recommendations of the Committee on Community Needs: (1) That the bylaws for the new Housing and Community Development Commission be approved. The Council approved these bylaws at the July 18, 1995, meeting. (2) That the Council consider appointing all of the existing members of the Committee on Community Needs and the Housing Commission to the new Housing and Community Development Commission. These ap- pointments will be made at the August 29, 1995, Council meeting. Consider recommendations of the Committee on Community Needs (CC.N) and the Housing Commission from their joint meeting on June 14, 1995. These recommendations were included in the Housing and Community Development Com- mission bylaws which were approved at the July 18, 1995, Council meeting. (1) That the name of the joint commission be the Housing and Community Development Commission. (2) That the members of the joint commission be Iowa City residents, consisting of nine members who would be appointed for three-year staggering terms. (3) That the joint commission meet in the evening and that the actual day and number of meetings per month be left up to the commission once it is established. (4) · That the joint commission form a committee or board to make recommendations to Council regarding proposed changes to the Housing Code, #13b page 1 ITEM NO. 13 - REPORT ON ITEMS FROM THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY. City Attorney. Horow/ Ms. Woito- Woito/ I was in Madison this weekend and I was impressed with the portion of their roads that were dedicated to bicycles and buses. It was most impressive and I realize that it is a much newer town than Iowa City. Horow/ Thank you. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City council meeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 #14 page ITEM NO. 14 - RECOMMENDATIONS OF BOARD8 AND COMMISSIONS. Consider recommendations of the Committee on Community Needs: (1) That the bylaws for the new Housing and Community Development Commission be approved. The Council approved these bylaws at the July 18, 1995, meeting. (2) That the Council consider appointing all of the existing members of the Committee on Community Needs and the Housing Commission to the new Housing and community Development Commission. These ap- pointments will be made at the August 29, 1995, Council meeting. Consider recommendations of the Committee on community Needs (CCN) and the Housing Commission from their joint meeting on June 14, 1995. These recommendations were included in the Housing and Community Development Com- mission bylaws which were approved at the July 18, 1995, Council meeting. (1) That the name of the joint commission be the Housing and Community Development Commission. That the members of the joint commission be Iowa City residents, consisting of nine members who would be appointed for three-year staggering terms. (3) That the joint commission meet in the evening and that the actual day and number of meetings per month be left up to the commission once it is established. (4) That the joint commission form a committee or board to make recommendations to Council regarding proposed changes to the Housing Code. c. Consider recommendations of the Human Rights Commission: (1) That the amended bylaws of the Iowa City Human Rights Commission be approved. (2) That the City Council endorse CEDAW (Convention On Elimination of Discrimination Against Women). This r6presents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City council meeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 #14 page 2 Horow/ Moved by Pigott, seconded by Throg. Discussion. The by-laws for the new CCN or Housing commission and Community Development Commission have currently been reviewed by the Rules Committee and are going to council the next council meeting. Kubby/ (Can't hear). Horow/ Any other discussion? All those in favor signify by saying aye (ayes). This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City council mesting of August 1, 1995. F080195 Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1, 1995 Page 17 ITEM NO. 15 - zzz. ITEM NO. 16 - Consider recommendations of the Huenan Rights Commission: (1) That the amended bylaws of the Iowa City Human Rights Commission be approved. Comment: The Human Rights Commission has re- viewed and revised its Bylaws. The Commission vote was unanimous to approve these Bylaws and this vote was reflected in the minutes of its June 26, 1995, meeting which Council previously received. At its July 24, 1995, meeting, the Commission voted unanimously to recommend Council approval. This request should be forwarded to the Rules Committee for a recommendation. (2) That the City Council endorse CEDAW (Convention On Elimination of Discrimination Against Women). Comment: Representatives supporting C~DAW will be contacting the City Council regarding this endorse- ment. The Commission endorsement was reflected in the minutes of its meeting of May 22, 1995, which Council previously received. CONSIDER A RESOLUTIDN SUPPORTING THE' RATIFr~ATION OR ACCESSION BY THE UNITED STATES TO THE CONVENTION OF THE ELIMINATION OF ALL FORMS OF DISCRIMINATION AGAINST WOMEN. Comment: See recommendation of the Human Rights Commission above. Action: ' CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE DESIGN OF TIlE TIME AND TEMPERATURE SIGN LOCATED AT 118 S. DUBUQUE STREET. Comment: At its July 17, 1995, meeting, the Design Review Commit- tee, by a 6-1 vote (Quigley voting no), recommended that the City Council approve the design of the time and temperature sign as presented to the Committee. The Committee reviews the proposed sign because the sign will project into City Plaza. Action: #15 page ITEM NO. 15 - CONSIDER A RESOLUTION SUPPORTINS THE RATIFICATION OR ACCESSION BY THE UNITED STATES TO THE CONVENTION OF THE ELIMINATION OF ALL FORM8 OF DISCRIMINATION AGAINST WOMEN. Horow/ This recommendation came from the Human Rights commission which reviewed the Convention and Elimination of Discrimination Against Women and endorsed it at their meeting of May 22. Moved by Kubby, seconded by Pigott. Any discussion? Pigott/ Well, yeah, I think we should. Horow/ Well, at this time, Dorothy, since you are intimately involved in this whole thing, I would appreciate if you would address this. Dorothy Paul/ I live at 608 Larch Lane. I have lived in Iowa City since 1953. I am also an Iowa City Human Rights Commissioner. I have been for 6 years and I have been involved in revising the Iowa City Ordinance. So I am very proud of the work of the Iowa City Human Rights Commission and the City of Iowa City to support human l:~ghts. I am here this evening to ask you to endorse the U.N. Convention on the elimination of all forms of discrimination against women which is more commonly know as CEDAW. I want to briefly give you a little background. CEDAW was adopted by the U.N. in 1979. It is the only document to emerge from the U.N. Decade For Women. It carries legal weight. Countries that ratify the convention undertake the legal obligation to take all appropriate measures to improve the status of women and to change customs and the law that impedes women's advancement. CEDAW was signed by the U.S. and submitted for ratification by President Carter in 1980. It has languished in the Senate for 15 years. For the record, 140 countries, members of the U.N. and the Nation state members now number 185, have consented to be bound by CEDAW. The U.S. is one of the 44 countries that has not ratified this Convention. I know all too well that we have laws on our books in this community to protect human rights. But your endorsement adds the weight of the international community to our local laws and puts added weight on our government to ratify this document. Your endorsement, I also want to emphasize, that it does not have any legal implications to the City of Iowa City beyond the laws we already have on our books. This request is all really about consciousness raising and education and confronting the apathy and indifference Thisrepresents only areasonably accurate ~anscriptlon ofthelowa City council meeting of August 1,1995. F080195 #15 page 2 which I see is one of the biggest problems we face today. The Iowa Legislature, in 1991, through the efforts of Representative Minette Doderer, was the first state in the U.S. to endorse CEDAW. Massachusetts, California, SOuth Dakota, Connecticut, the lower House in Illinois, and New York State have followed. 50 U.S. national organizations have signed on from AARP, the American Bar Association, NOW, the Sisters of Humility in Davenport Iowa, the Amnesty International. I ask you this evening to become the first city in the United States to endorse CEDAW. Ellen Dorsey would also like to address you this evening. and I and we have organized this campaign, have already received requests from three other states, Massachusetts, California, and Washington, D.C. who ant to use Iowa City as the national model for the CEDAW state campaign. My request is based on the precedence already established in iowa City to use international law for a basis for community action. I was in this room many years ago when the then Iowa City council and then Mayor Mary Neuhauser said it is time to get off the dime and the city council voted to make Iowa City a Nuclear Free Zone. I am also proud of the fact that Iowa City has included in our city ordinance the endorsement of the U.N. Convention on all forms of discrimination, an action that followed a precedence established by the city government in Clinton, Grinnell, Ames, Iowa. I go to Beijing for the 4th World Conference on Women two weeks from today where I shall participate in a workshop on Women in the Heartland and that is really us. Do we as Mary Neuhauser said, get off the dime and make a commitment at our community level to CEDAW which will become only the first step but the most important step to formal implementation of the plan of action when we come home and the real work begins. I would also like entered into the record the fact that not only the Iowa City Human Rights Commission endorsed CEDAW, 28 Iowa city community organizations have endorsed the document, following the request of Ellen Dorsey originally to the Iowa city Human Rights Commission. I have brought with me copies of these endorsements as well as a letter from President Clinton which I received on November 30 who supports its prompt ratification. So I will turn these over to the Clerk and thank you. Pigott/ Dorothy, could I ask one question? I have had a lot of conversation recently about the 4th World Conference on Women, There has been a lot of controversy about it because some people are arguing that perhaps the U.S~ shouldn't attend and I just wanted to ask you for clarification. The 4th World Thl~represents only areasonablyaccuratetranscriptlon ofthelowa CIW council meetlngofAugust1,1995. F080195 #15 page 3 Conference on Women will discuss the issues surrounding women. Having this resolution will not endorse or not endorse the U.S. delegation going to the 4th World Conference on Women. It is a separate thing in a sense from this although the issues surrounding (can't hear). Kubby/ Could you please explain why it is controversial? Pigott/ Because, for one, there was an American citizen who has been held, detained, by the Chinese in China recently, Harry Wu, and there is a controversy about that as well as other issues surrounding access to China and bringing certain materials into China. But I just thought it was important to distinguish between that, because of this controversy, and this which is separate. Ellen Dorsey/ (Can't hear). Chinese politics which is separate from the 4th World Conference and needs to be kept separate. Horow/ Thank you very much. This is not a public discussion. Ellen, if you have something to say that is very very brief- You will have to sign in and speak into the microphone. Ellen Dorsey/ What I was wanting to address, just very briefly though, the question that is being raised is essentially what is the purpose of this for Iowa City to endorse CEDAW and doss it have any enforcement weight to it. No, absolutely (can't hear). I think the really important reason why we should endorse CEDAW is that we are affirming the importance of an international law. We are supporting global (can't hear) of women's human rights and I also think we can establish a set of standards for Iowa City that are part of a universal package that can serve as a guide for legislation, for public policy CHANGE TAPE TO REEL 95-93 SIDE 1 Ellen Dorsey/ And I think ultimately we are (can't hear). Horow/ Thank you very much. Don't forget to sign in. Kubby/ Sue, I would like to ask that that be stopped. I am assuming that this will pass unanimously and if not, I would hope people would talk about why they wouldn't for it. I don't think that is an issue. But what I would ask is that besides just sending this resolution to the people that we have outlined that we are going to send it to that we have a cover Thisrepresents only areasonably accurate transcdption ofthelowe Citycouncil meeting of August1,1995. F080195 #15 page 4 letter stating how strongly we believe in the local voice asking our national people to ratify this convention. And citing how strong our Human Rights Ordinance is and how important our Human Rights Commission in educating people about our laws, about hate crimes, about the enforcement that our local Commission helps provide is that is acceptable to people to have a cover letter go with it to talk about the local- Horow/ Cover letters to who? Kubby/ To the people we are sending this. The resolution outlines who this is being sent to and that oover letter should be attached. Not just the resolution that may not mean much in the form that it is written. Horow/ Okay. Any further discussion? Throg/ Yeah, I would like to convey a very brief story about a recent visit I made to Louisville, Kentucky when I was going to see my father. I had recently obtained a t-shirt from a friend of mind that says Women Hold Up Half of the World and so I walked into a gas station wearing that t-shirt and there was this heavy set young man sitting next to the counter and he looked at me and said a woman activist shirt, huh. And I am going to translate because his language was rather gruff. Bet you pick up a lot of women with that shirt on. Well, I turned rather cold to this fellow who I didn't know at all and just stared at him coldly and said you think so, huh. The atmosphere turned rather chilly. I just bring that up because some of the language in our resolution is that we seek to modify the patterns and conduct of men and women to eliminate the prejudice customs and all the practices based on the idea of inferiority or superiority of either sex. End of story. Horow/ Okay, thank you very much. With that, roll call- (yes). Resolution is adopted, 6-0, and I am sure Naomi would be proud to go along with it if she were here. Thank you very much. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City council meeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 #16 page ITEM NO. 16 CONSIDER ~ RRSOLUTION APPROVIN~ THE DESIGN OF THE TIME~NDTEMPERATURE $I~N LOCATED ~T 118 S. DUBUQUE STREET. Horow/ Moved by Lehman, seconded by Kubby. Discussion. Kubby/ Waste of time. Woito/ It is or. The Code is or. Throg/ Based on the documents in our packet I was a little bit confused as to what the final design would be. Would the final design be what the pictures that we saw in this packet? Kubby/ Those are pictures of the actual sign. Throg/ so it has Uncommon Grounds and then right next to it there is a thermometer? Woito/ Well, Laurie can tell you. Horow/ You will have to come up to the microphone, please. Laurie Tulchin/ The thermometer will fit inside the bracket. It will be three feet tall, probably be the world's tallest thermometer and I am having a guy build it and shipped. It is going to be filled with spirit liquid, not mercury. So no hazardous material and it will actually tell the temp. Horow/ Any discussion? Any questions? Baker/ Sue, this is not the most burning issue that will ever come in front of this council and you know, my first thoughts on it were no big deal but then I remembered I fought like crazy trying to keep the Burger King projecting sign out of the Plaza years ago and I think what I am going to do is take the position that no projecting signs should be in the plaza. Horow/ I appreciate your bringing that up because I feel that you have hit the nail right on the head and that this application, Laurie, is probably the best one could do to get around the rules and regulations and push it to the limits and I haven't appreciated that one and I will vote against it also. Franklin/ Can I just remind the council that you are reviewing design of the sign. This is a legal sign. This represents only ~ reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City counci~ meeting of August 1, 1995. F080195 #16 page 2 Horow/ We know. Baker/ I didn't mean to laugh but what is the distinction between reviewing anything? Franklin/ You are reviewing the design of it. That is the aesthetic characteristics of it. You may recommend against it based on design but it is a legal sign as a time and temperature sign and the remedy for this would be for you to either change the time and temperature designation in the Zoning Ordinance. Baker/ Okay. Horow/ Karin, I understand what you are saying and obviously it is something that will be approved. But I have to say right now that I have a lot of problems with this. I feel that you have deliberately pushed the limits of this and you know you are and this distresses me. Council/ (All talking). Woito/ Time out. Horow/ That is my personal opinion. Baker/ And my objections were based on the whole-I thought we were reviewing, approving or rejecting the sign and the design of it was irrelevant to me in the long run. If it is a question of just- Woito/ You authority is limited. Pigott/ I think the aesthetics of this design is good. I like the look of it. I like the thermometer within the- I, generally speaking, am not in favor of projecting signs and if that not the basis in which we can make our vote- Woito/ If that is the case you should change the ordinance but not now. Baker/ No, I understand now. I thought that is what we were doing. Pigott/ I understand. I don't see this as an attempt to get around the rules. Throg/ What is the rationale against projecting signs? Thisrepresents only a reasonably accurate transcription ofthelowa CI~ council mealrig ofAugustl, 1995. F080195 #16 page 3 Baker/ The original discussion was as soon- The fear was as soon as they start coming out what you have got is vision for that sign. It sticks out and you got pedestrian traffic. Well, the business behind it has a projecting sign and they feel they need a projecting sign. You sort of get into dueling signs, projecting signs and they get more elaborate and there are ways to work around the ordinance to get attention. That was the problem of projecting signs. Throg/ I was trying to understand what the objection- Horow/ It was the objection to the projection that this create a clutter. Especially in the mall. That it was not in keeping with what the-I want to say the historic aspect of that d.t. Iowa City was looking like. Baker/ I have no problem with how the sign looks. Horow/ I think the sign is pretty. I don't like the projection. Kubby/ I am anxious to see the steam coming out. Pigott/ That should be fun. Horow/ Oh, you will. Throg/ To be fair about our points of view here I think projecting signs-I don't have any problem with them at all in the pedestrian mall. It is literally a matter of design. Got to pay attention to the quality of design. If you have high quality design the projecting sign is going to enhance the character of the place. I think the best I can tell Laurie's design is really quite nice. Kubby/ So, I thought that the DR Co~unittee had asked that whoever would deal with this issue take another look at the whole issue of projecting signs. Franklin/ The DR Committee has not made a proposal to date. However, they are considering suggesting to the P/Z Commission and council a reevaluation of projected signs. Whether there would be a limitation on that just on City Plaza for instance because it is very pedestrian oriented as opposed to allowing projected signs throughout the community. Could have certain size limitations on it to get back to the issue that Larry is talking about. This all came from back in the 60's when we had a lot of signage in the d.t. The sign ordinance was adopted Thisrepresents only areasonably accuratetranscription ofthelowa City council meeting of August1,1995. F080195 #16 page 4 and there were a lot of people behind it at that time because of the clutter of signs d.t. But there was no regulation of them and so it came out with an absolute prohibition on projected signs but I think there is some that feel that that had gone to far. And there may be some way to do it. Baker/ My confusion. Are projecting signs legal or not legal in the plaza? Franklin/ Projecting signs are prohibited. However, you may have a time or temperature sign in which you have something that gives you time or the temperature in association with an identification sign. A bank. Okay. And I think that is what everybody has accepted and is a little unusual. Tulchin/ I would just like to add one thing. Do you believe that awnings project? Horow/ Sure. Tulchin/ Then every, almost every sign in the Plaza area that you like or that you allow is projecting. The only signs that don't project are fascia signs and if you are proposing everybody have a fascia sign-I mean, that doesn't make any sense. What you are doing is stifling anybody- Franklin/ (Can't hear) projecting canopy awning. Tulchin/ They all project. Kubby/ In a practical sense they come out away from the surface of the building. Tulchin/ Awnings project. The Burger King sign projects. Time/temperature sign projects. They all project. It just depends on semantics. It depends on whether or not you want to call my sign a projecting sign, a markee sign- Pigott/ I think it is more than semantics but I do understand your point about the blurring line between the awning and the- Tulchin/ First National Bank have a time/temperature sign which is not as creative or nice in any way. It is just informational. And that I cannot have a creative sign that I spent a lot of time designing and thinking about. Somebody thinks I am deliberately trying to get around the ordinance. The ordinance is (can't hear) and it is unfair and it is all a matter of- ThfsrepresentsonlyareasonablyaccuratetranscriptlonofthelowaClw council meetlngofAugust1,1995. F080195 #16 page 5 There is nothing deliberate about it. I will comply with whatever ordinance states. Kubby/ Although, you must admit that the original design of the sign didn't have a temperature gauge on it. Tulchin/ No, I don't admit that. Nobody knows what the original design of the sign was. The original design included a clock and a thermometer but it was cost prohibitive. Lehman/ Susan, I really like the design and I would like to vote on it. Horow/ Great. Any other questions? Pigott/ I like the design of this, too. If we are voting on the design of it, I- Baker/ It is clear what we can vote on. Horow/ Roll call-Resolution is adopted with Horow voting no. This represents only oreasonably accurate transcription ofthelowo Clty councilmeetlng of August 1,1995. F080195 Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1, 1995 Page 18 ITEM NO, 17 - CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT AND AUTHORIZ- ING MAYOR TO SIGN AND CITY CLERK TO ATTEST CONTRACT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FAIRVIEW AVENUE/HIGH STREET STORM SEWER PROJECT, Comment: This project involves construction of storm sewer improve- ments in the area between Fairview Avenue and High Street. The improvements are designed to reduce storm water flooding and associated property damage. Funding for this project is from General Obligation Bond proceeds. The bid opening for this project was August 1, 1995, and the following bids were received: B & D Construction, Iowa City Alternate bid for boring 9240,809.00 (342,824.00) Maxwell Construction, Iowa City Alternate bid for boring 9271,864.50 (356,310.50) Tschiggfrie Excavating, Dubuque Alternate bid for boring 9389,402.85 (434,822.25) Engineer's estimate 9323,944.00 [or (9477,244.00)-if the alternate bid for boring is selected] Public Works and Engineering recommend that the contract including Alternates 1A and 2A for boring, be awarded to B & D Construction of Iowa City. Action: ~17 page ITEM NO. 17 - CONSIDER h RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT AND AUTHORIZINg MAYOR TO SIGN AND CITY CLERK TO ATTEST CONTRACT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FAIRVIEW AVENUE/HIGH STREET STORM S~WER PROJECT. Horow/ Moved by Kubby, seconded Pigott. Discussion. Kubby/ B & D? Arkins/ Barker. Kubby/ So, one of the things my consciousness has been raised about making sure lines are in right and that since I have been on council things have always been incorrectly and recently we have had an issue where a sewer line wasn't done correctly and we have had to make some alternative arrangements with this company being that company. Because it is the lowest bid I feel comfortable doing this. But I guess what I would like us is some slightly higher degree of inspection from our Engineering Department to prevent whatever happened in Whispering Meadows so it doesn't happen. Rick Fosse/ It has already been discussed. Horow/ I concur. Any other amscusslon. Kubby/ Glad to see local people bidding on these things and being the two lowest bids are local folks. So I am glad they will be spending their money locally. Horow/ Okay. Roll call- (yes). This represents only a reasonably accuratetranscription of theIowa Citycouncil meeting of August 1,1995. F080195 Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1, 1995 Page 18 ITEM NO. 17 - CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AWARDIN UTHORIZ- ING MAYOR TO SION AND CITY CLERK TO ATTEST COl FOR · THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FAIRVIEW STREET }EWER PROJECT. ments associated Obligation 1, 1995, and This project involves construction area between Fairview Avenue are designed tg reduce ~perty damage. Funding for proceeds. The bid openi e following bids recei~ improve- High Street, The water flooding and prolect is from General project was August Engineer's estimate 8323,944,00 (or ~477,244,00 if the alternate bid for boring is selected) Public Works to recommend that the contract be awarded Action: Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1, 1995 Page 19 ITEM NO. 18 - CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT AND AUTHORIZ- ING MAYOR TO SIGN AND CITY CLERK TO ATTEST CONTRACT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE LONGFELLOW STORM AND SANITARY SEWER PROJECT. Comment: This project consists ofthe reconstruction of approximately 1,400 linear feet of sanitary sewer and 2,150 linear feet of storm sewer. The project also involves miscellaneous repairs to the sanitary sewer system. The Engineer's estimate is 9496,117.00. Funding is from General Obligation Bond proceeds. The bid opening for this project was August 1, 1995, and the following bids received: B & D Construction, Iowa City 9474,065.00 Maxwell Construction, Iowa City 9571,721.50 Engineer's estimate 9496,117.00 Public Works and Engineering recommend that the contract be awarded to B & D Construction of Iowa City. Action= ~/~:~' #18 page 1 ITEM NO. 18 - CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT 1%t~ AUTHORIZING MAYOR TO SIGN AND CITY CLERK TO ATTEST CONTRACT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE LONGFELLOW STORM AND SANITARY SEWER PROJECT. CHANGE TAPE TO REEL 95-93 SIDE 2 Horow/ Moved by Lehman, seconded by Pigott. Any discussion? Kubby/ Are we doing General Obligation Bond versus federal flood money for this project because we couldn't have the project done and thus encumber the money by August 157 Originally some of these projects were flood moneys. Atkins/ That was one of a number of reasons. Moving-the Greenview Project was pending. The peninsula purchase. Honestly don't recollect all the reasons but there was a timing issue and we switched this thing over. Kubby/ So we can't just have the contract signed by August 157 It would have had to have done the work and paid them for sections of the project by August 157 Atkins/ As I understand it we, if we encumber the money prior to the 15th we would have been okay. We were not guaranteed we could get these projects together in that timely fashion. Kubby/ I guess I want to and I don't need to talk about it tonight but I want to make sure that you understand clearly what the federal government means by the word encumbered and if it can be interpreted as a signed contract that we pay with federal flood moneys instead of return it. Atkins/ I can assure you that we I would make every every effort to make sure. Horow/ Any further discussion? Roll call-(yes). Resolution is adopted. Thisrepresents only a masonably accurate transcription of ~elowa Ci~ council meetingof August1,1995. F080195 Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1, 1995 Page 19 ITEM NO. 18 - CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT AND AUTHORIZ- ING MAYOR TO SIGN AND CITY CLERK TO ATTEST CONTRACT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE LONGFELLOW STORM AND SANITARY SEWER PROJECT. Comment: This project cons. ists of the recohstruction 1,400 feet of sanitary sewer and 2,150 sewer.~ The project also involves miscellaneous sewer The Engineer's estimate is 949, ~ral Obligation Bond proceeds. The bi¢ was 1, 1995, and the following bid., feet of storm to the sanitary 17.00. Funding is for this project Engineer's sstim~ Public to Action: za 9496,1-17.00 recommend that the contract be awarded Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1, 1995 Page 20 ITEM NO. 19 - '/5 ~ z~ ITEM NO. 20 - CONSIDER RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE LONGFELLOW AREA SANITARY SEWER REHABILITATION PROJECT. Comment: This project consists of root grinding and pressure grouting of 1,332 joints on 8" vitrified clay sewer pipe. The Engineer's estimate is 939,815.44. Funding is from General Obligation Bond proceeds. The bid opening for this project was August 1, 1995, and the following bids received: Visc-Sewer Clean & Seal, Inc., St. Louis Park, MN $27,990.60 Engineer's estimate 939,815.44 Public Works and Engineering recommends that the contract be awarded to Visc Sewer. CONSIDER RESOLUTION RESCINDING RESOLUTION 852 ESTABLISH- ING THE MAYOR'S YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM AND RESOLU- TION 92-28 ADOPTING BYLAWS FOR MAYOR'S YOUTH, AND IN LIEU THEREOF AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF IOWA CITY AND MAYOR'S YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM, A NOT-FOR-PROFIT CORPORATION. Comment: At the April 18, 1995 Mayor's Youth Board meeting, the Mayor's Youth Board of Directors voted (10-1 of 11 members present) to formally request separation from the City of Iowa City. The City Attorney had previously advised that if the Board chose to become independent, they incorporate under Iowa law as a "not-for-profit corporation" - which has now been done. The resolution rescinds the two resolutions establishing the Mayor's Youth and approving their bylaws, and authorizes entering into an agreement for providing in-kind bookkeeping services. #20 page 1 ITEM NO. 20 - CONSIDER RESOLUTION RESCINDING RESOLUTION 852 ESTABLISHING THE MAYOR'S YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM ~ RESOLUTION 92-Z8 ADOPTING BYLAWS FOR MAYOR'S YOUTH~ AND IN LIEU THEREOF AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF AN ~DMINISTRATIVE SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF IOWA CITY AND MAYOR'S YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAMt A NOT-FOR-PROFIT CORPORATION. Horow/ Moved by Pigott, seconded by Kubby. Discussion. Pigott/ Ben O'Meara is here and we talked a little bit about the agreement we have for the next year. Maybe we could have Ben come and talk for a second about that. Kubby/ Maybe we could outline the question really quick that was brought up and the question was if Mayor's Youth will be independent from the city and be a private not for profit, why we do bookkeeping services in the long run for the organization? Ben O'Meara/ The main reason for that is we attempted to establish banking independent from the community. One of the things that we would need to do is establish a line of credit. The banks that I spoke with required three years of sound financial documentation in order to establish that kind of credit which we don't have. Our recent history is kind of a financial nightmare. So, what we talked about and what the city Finance Department and Accounting Department suggested was that we continue to do our banking through the city for a period of time that would establish that financial credibility and then connect with a bank at some future date not to exceed three years. Kubby/ I guess I would describe it differently. That if you would use the word nightmare, that the past history has been a nightmare. But the recent history at Mayor's Youth-You have been very good in getting the organization back so you are not in debt. You have done an amazing job. You and your Board have made a commitment to get that agency back on target and you have done a great job. And if we can assist for three years in helping you establish that credit so that then you are totally independent I want to do that. O'Meara/ The city deserves a great amount of credit for that. The city Accounting Department. Craig Standish and Regina Schreiber who worked very closely with us to get things under control and taught me a lot about accounting. Thank you. Thisrepresents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa CiW council meeting of August 1,1995. F080195 #20 page 2 Pigott/ I just have a couple of quick other questions concerning employment. Layoffs are not going to happen or maybe? O'Meara/ For us? Pigott/ Yeah because of the separation, no different staff? Is that correct? O'Meara/ No. Pigott/ No effect on health or pension benefits? O'Meara/ The pension we have to switch from participating in IPERS that is available to city employees, to an independent pension plan which we are in the process of establishing. And the health and things were already separated from the city. Pigott/ Great. Kubby/ Thanks for staying so long to answer those questions. Horow/ Any other discussion? Roll call-(yes). Resolution is adopted. Kubby/ Although why not just do a three year contract? Woito/ I was going to suggest that except his Board has already signed it. Kubby/ Maybe next time they can get a two year. Woito/ I agree. Thisrepresents only areasonably accuratetranscription ofthelowa Ciw council meeting of August 1,1995, F080195 Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1~ 1995 Page 20 ITEM N0.19- CONSIDER RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT FOR OF THE LONGFELLOW AREA SANITARY SEWER PROJECT. :ONSTRUCTION Comm~nt: This project consists of root grindir of ints on 8" vitrified clay sewer is I15,44. Funding is from I opening for this project was August eived: pressure grouting Engineer's estimate proceeds, The and the following bids En{ imate tO Action: 939,815.44 recommend that the contract be awarded ITEM NO. 20 - CONSI£ TIO[ YOUTH CORPORATION. RESCINDING RESOLUTION 852 ESTABLISH- (OUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM AND RESOLU- G BYLAWS FOR MAYOR'S YOUTH, AND IN LIEU ING EXECUTION OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE BETWEEN THE CITY OF IOWA CITY AND /]ENT PROGRAM, A NOT-FOR-PROFIT Comment: At the April Mayor's Youth Board of to formally request Attorney had previously independent, they corporation" - which has now two resolutions establishing bylaws, and authorizes enterin bookkeeping services. 1995 Mayor's Youth Board meeting, the [10-1 of 11 members present) from the City of Iowa City. The City that if the Board chose to become under Iowa law as a "not-for-profit en done. The resolution rescinds the Youth and approving their an agreement for providing in-kind Action: Agenda Iowa City City Council Regular Council Meeting August 1, 1995 Page 21 ITEM NO. 21 - ITEM NO. 22 - CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST A SANITARY SEWER EASEMENT AGREEMENT, A WATER MAIN EASEMENT AGREEMENT AND A STORM WATER MANAGEMENT EASEMENT AGREEMENT FOR MEADOWLARK CONDOMINIUMS. Comment: Under the Iowa City City Code, C.B. Development, Ltd. submitted a site plan for the development known as Meadowlark Condominiums. City staff approved the site plan subject to the property owners entering into a Sanitary Sewer Easement Agreement, a Water Main Easement Agreement and a Storm Water Management Easement Agreement. This Resolution authorizes the execution of the necessary · Easement Agreements. Action: ?~'/~,~,L ~¢~x2 CONSIDER A RESOLUTION RESCINDING PRIOR RESOLUTION 94-253 AND IN LIEU THEREOF SETTING FEES AND CHARGES WITH RESPECT TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF REGULATIONS OF VEHICLES FOR HIRE. ITEM NO. 23 - Comment: This resolution increases Taxicab liability insurance amounts for personal injury from ~2.50,OO0/$500,000 to 8500,000/~) 1 ,OOO,O00 and also changes the combined liability amount from ,f, 500,OOO to 91,000,000, The Assistant Finance Director has recommended these changes and it is anticipated that the increase may raise liability premiums 20-30% for the insured. ADJOURNMENT. City of Iowa City MEMORANDUM DATE: July 28, 1995 TO: City Council FROM: City Manager RE: Work Session Agendas and Meeting Schedule July 31, 1995 6:30 P.M. 6:30 P.M. 7:30 P.M. 8:00 P.M. 8:20 P.M. 8:30 P.M.- 8:45 P.M. Monday City Council Work Session - Council Chambers Review zoning matters Fringe Area Agreement Community Networking Group Presentation Purchase of land adjacent to Weatherby Park Council agenda, Council time, Council committee reports Consider appointment to the Mayor's Youth Employment Board Tuesday - .Regular City Council Meeting - Council Chambers August 1, 1995 7:30 P.M. August 14, 1995 Monday 6:30 P.M. - City Council'Work Session - Council Chambers Agenda pending Tuesday - Regular City Coqncil Meeting - Council Chambers August 15, 1995 7:30 P.M. PENDING LIST Appointment to the Housing and Community Development Commission - August 29