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AGENDA
REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF AUGUST 1, 1995
7:30 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CIVIC CENTER
410 EAST WASHINGTON
Subject to change as finalized by the City Clerk,
Clerk's Office, 356-5040.
AGENDA
IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING - AUGUST 1, 1995
7:30 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
ITEM NO. 1 -
CALL TO ORDER.
ROLL CALL.
ITEM NO. 2-
For a final official copy, contact the City
MAYOR'S PROCLAMATIONS.
ITEM NO. 3 -
a. Month of Recognition of the 50th Anniversary of the End of
World War II - August 1995. ~
CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED
OR AMENDED,
Approval of Official Council actions of the special meetings of
July 11,1995, and July 18, 1995, and of the regular meeting
of July 18, 1995, as published, subject to corrections, as
recommended by the City Clerk.
Minutes of Boards and Commissions.
(1) Airport Commission meeting of June 15, 1995.
(2)
Mayor's Youth Employment Board meeting of April
25, 1995.
(3)
Mayor's Youth Employment Board meeting of May 23,
1995.
(4)
Mayor's Youth Employment Board meeting of June
27, 1995.
(5)
Housing Commission and Committee on Community
Needs joint meeting of June 14, 1995.
(6)
Committee on Community Needs meeting of June 14,
1995.
{7)
Committee on Community Needs meeting of July 13,
1995.
(8) Human Rights Commission meeting of July 24, 1995.
(9) Design Review Committee meeting of July 17, 1995.
(10)
Planning and Zoning Commission meeting of July 20,
1995.
Agenda
Iowa City City Council
Regular Council Meeting
August 1, '1995
Page 2
Permit Motions and Resolutions as Recommended by the City
Clerk.
(1)
Consider a motion approving a Class "C" Liquor
License for 6:20, Inc., dba 6:20, 620 S. Madison.
(Renewal)
(2)
Consider a motion approving a Special Class "C"
Liquor License for High Energy Food Concepts, Inc.,
dba Bushnell's Turtle, 127 E. College St. (Renewal)
(3)
Consider a motion approving an Outdoor Service .Area
for High Energy Food Concepts, Inc., dba Bushnell's
Turtle, 127 E. College St. (Renewal)
(4)
Consider a motion approving a Class "C" Liquor
License for Micky's of Iowa City, Inc., dba Micky's,
11 S. Dubuque St. (Renewal)
(5)
Consider a motion approving a Class "C" Liquor
License for G.A. Malone's L.C., dba G.A. Malone's
L.C., 121-123 Iowa Ave. (New)
(6) Consider a resolution issuing a dancing permit to
Setting Public Hearings.
(1)
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEAR-
ING FORAUGUST 15, 1905~ ON PLANS, SPECIFICA-
TIONS, FORM OF CONTRACT AND ESTIMATED
COST OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE 1995 CURB
RAMP PROJECT.
Comment:. This project consists of the construction
and reconstruction of sidewalk curb ramps to Ameri-
cans with Disabilities Act standards along routes
prioritized by JCCOG and special interest groups.
This is the second of four contracts to bring Iowa
City's sidewalk system in substantial compliance with
the Americans with Disabilities Act, The estimated
construction cost of the 1995 Curb Ramp Project is
approximately $100,000. This project will be funded
by road use taxes & bond proceeds.
City of Iowa City
MEMORANDUM
DATE:
TO:
FROM:
REF:
July 31, 1995
Mayor, City Council, General Public
City Clerk
Additions to Consent Calendar
3 c. (6)
Consider a resolution issuing a dancing permit to Iowa City Fall
Fun Festival, 2150 Rochester Avenue.
3 c. (7)
Consider a motion approving a Special 5-Day Beer Permit for Iowa
City Fall Fun Festival, Inc., dba Iowa City Fall Fun Festival, Inc,
2150 Rochester Ave. (New)
Consider a motion approving a Temporary Outdoor Service Area for
Iowa City Fall Fun Festival, Inc., dba Iowa City Fall Fun Festival,
Inc., 2150 Rochester Ave. (New)
Agenda
Iowa City City Council
Regular Council Meeting
August 1, 1995
Page 3
Resolutions.
(1)
(2)
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE WORK
FOR THE SANITARY SEWER, STORM SEWER, WA-
TER MAIN AND PAVING PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS
FOR LOTS 72-95, 137, 138 AND 157-174 FOR
WHISPERING MEADOWS SUBDIVISION - PART 2;
Comment: See Engineer's Report.
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE WORK
FOR THE SANITARY SEWER, STORM SEWER, TILE
LINE, WATER MAIN AND PAVING PUBLIC IMPROVE-
MENTS FOR VILLAGE GREEN SOUTH - PART 3A
(LOTS 1 & 12-15), PART 3B, PART 4A AND PART 4B
(LOTS 51-54 & 65-68).
Cornmerit: See Engineer's Report.
(3)
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE WORK
FOR THE SANITARY SEWER, STORM SEWER, WA-
TER MAIN AND PAVING pUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS
FOR WINDSOR RIDGE - PART 5.
Comment: See Engineer's Report.
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE WORK
FOR SANITARY SEWER, STORM SEWER, WATER
MAIN AND PAVING PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR-
VILLAGE GREEN SUBDIVISION, PART XIII.
Comment: See Engineer's Report.
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE WORK
FOR THE MAIDEN LANE PAVING AND SANITARY
SEWER PROJECT.
Comment: This is the special assessment paving and
sanitary sewer portion of the Maiden Lane Area
Improvements. The pedestrian bridge is not comp{ete.
The final construction cost is $264,838.64. The
amount to be assessed to property owners is
$301,562.15 which includes construction, engineer-
ing, legal and administrative costs.
Agenda
Iowa City City Council
Regular Council Meeting
August 1, 1995
Page 4
(6)
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ORDERING PREPARATION
OF FINAL PLAT AND SCHEDULE OF ASSESSMENTS
FOR THE MAIDEN LANE PAVING AND SANITARY
SEWER PROJECT.
Comment: Tills resolution directs the engineer to
prepare the final plat and schedule of assessments in
preparation for levying the final assessments for the
Maiden Lane Paving and Sanitary Sewer Project.
Correspondence.
(1)
Letter from John Forrest. regarding public access
television.
(2)
Letter from Brandon D, Ray regarding public a. ccess
television.
(3)
Memorandum from the Traffic Engineer regarding
removal of parking prohibition on the east side of the
100 block of North Linn Street.
Applications for the Use of Streets and Public Grounds.
(1)
Application from George Karr for the use of public
streets on September 3, 1995, for the Regina Fall Fun
Festival Walk/Run. (approved)
(2)
Application from the American Diabetes Association
for the use of public sidewalks for the Walktoberfest
on October 1, 1995. (approved)
(3)
Application from the Downtown Association for the
use of public sidewalks on July 20 through 23, 1995,
for Summer Sidewalk Days. (approved)
(4)
Application from Craig Carney for the use of the
public sidewalk adjacent to the Racquet Master during
the period of July 20 through 23, 1995, for sidewalk
sales. (approved)
(5)
Application from The University of Iowa Homecoming
Council for the use of public streets for the Homecom-
ing Parade on October 13, 1995. (approved)
Agenda
Iowa City City Council
Regular Council .Meeting
August 1, 1995
Page 5
ITEM NO. 4 -
Applications for City Plaza Use Permits.
(1)
Application from the Friends of Spartacus Youth Club
for permission to set up a table on July 21 and 29,
1995, for the purpose of distributing literature.
(approved)
(2)
Application from the Evert Conner Rights and Resourc-
es Center for Independent Living for the use of the
stage area on July 26, 1995, for the Americans with
Disability Act Celebration. (approved)
(3)
Application from the Dbwntown Association for the
use of the stage area on August 26, 1995, for the
Abilities Awareness Day. (approved)
(4)
Application from Chris Randall for the use of the stage
area on July 26, 1995, for the purpose of announcing
the candidacy of J. Johr~ston for City Council.
(approved)
(5)-
Application from Rebecca Thomas for permission to
set up a table on July 22, 1995, for the purpose of
distributing information. (approved)
(6)
tion about ~e clinic./am~pproved)
END OF CONSENT CALENDAR
Application from the Emma Goldman Clinic for permis-
sion to set up a table for the distribution of informa-
PUBLIC DISCUSSION (ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA).
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ITEM NO. 3 - CONSIDER ~,DOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR
PRESENTED OR AMENDED.
Horow/ We have added a number of items under Item C, Fall Fun
Festival items. C(6), (7) & (8). A beer permit for the
festival and also dancing. We have deleted resolution E(1).
This is to delete and defer to August 15. This has to do with
the storm sewer, sanitary sewer, water main and paving
improvements for Whispering Meadows Subdivision.
Moved by Pigott, seconded by Throg. Discussion. Roll call-
(yes) .
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ITEM NO. 4 - PUBLIC DISCUSSION (ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA).
Horow/ Public Discussion. Items that are not on the agenda. Anyone
that wishes to address council on an item that is not on the
agenda. Please come forward, sign in, state your name. We
would ask that you keep your comments to not more than five
minutes.
Davey Moore/ Hi. Do I sign in here?
Kubby/ Will we get a song tonight?
Throg/ It is worth noting that Davey Moore is one of the most
outstanding singers this city has seen in a long time.
Moore/ We will see how I do as a public speaker. I just stopped by.
I guess I had the option of writing the council or stopping by
and it was just simpler to stop by. I am a renter on Davenport
Street and we were out, my wife and me and an eight year old,
we out of the country for about two and a half months last
winter and we had a subletter there who seemed to do a pretty
good job. Anyway, when we got back, about a month and a half
after we got back we ended up getting in the mail a utility
bill for $1,000 and at first I thought it was a mistake. The
break down on it was about I think $300 and some for water and
$600 and some for utilities for sewage and I talked to the
subletter who is not in a position of being able to pay it and
he said he remembered two or three days when the water might
have been running on the toilet but other than that he
couldn't explain the 30,000 cubic feet that went through the
system. So I was just about ready to realize well, this must
be a mistake. I talked to the city. They checked the meter and
it was not a mistake and so I came in and I ran into a Realtor
friend of mine and said that he thought the water end of it
seemed fairly fair but $600 and some for sewage when it was
all clean water seemed a little extreme. He thought I should
check with the Utility people here. So I talked to a Don
Yucuis and maybe I caught him in a good mood. He is a great
guy anyway. He said yeah, this seems reasonable. Maybe we can-
You pay the water and we can work out something on the sewage
and go from there. In the meantime I paid $100 as an act of
goodwill. Anyway, he suggested I write a letter to the sewage
adjustment board which I did and he thought it was going to go
pretty well. So, anyway, that was rejected. We got a letter
from them a couple of weeks ago that they had rejected that
and I thought okay, what do we do next.
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Kubby/ Wait a minute. I never knew we had a Sewage Adjustment
Board.
Throg/ Who did you go to, Davey?
Arkins/ I am suspecting then that Mr. Moore may have gone to the
staff committee that reviews. It has been called a number of
things. Close enough. I know what you mean.
Moore/ You know what I mean. Somebody by the name of Dianna wrote
me a letter back. She was to the effect that all the water
that goes through the system whether it is clean or dirty
still goes the same way. So I was about ready to give up on it
and then I thought well, I will take one more shot at it. I
did talk to Don and Ed Moreno one time. They said that in the
future at some point there is going to be some meeting where
they may look at strange cases like this and so I am on a
payment plan with the city at $50-75 a month but this may
change if they change their mind. Anyway, I didn't come here
for charity. You know, if we screwed up, we screwed up and we
will pile up some money and figure out a way to deal with this
but I wanted to make a couple of points on int. One the fact
of the previous two months billing procedures makes it pretty
difficult to catch something like this. So really I think-I
don't know what the negatives are on the one month billing
procedures but as far as that is a will good positive on that.
The second thing here somehow I find it a little difficult to
believe that there is not some kind of relationship between
clean water and the amount of work that is done to it when it
is not 30,000 cubic feet of sewage as opposed to 30,000 cubic
feet of clean water. I don't know enough about the science of
it but somewhere along the process I would think that the
maintenance or something would be less expensive when we are
dealing with clean water. I don't know that but I want to
throw it out.
Kubby/ The problem is is when that water goes down your sink or
down your commode and it gets mixed up with everything else
that is in the sewer pipe and it maybe dilutes what is in
there a little bit but we still have to clean it out.
Moore/ Are there some communities that charge their sewage rate
according to the size?
Woito/ According to the size of the what?
Moore/ According to the size of the family. They bill you according
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to the amount of cubic feet of water but when it comes to the
sewage itself they deal with that according to how many
people.
Woito/ There are some communities that do adjustments based on
household income.
Kubby/ Family size does not necessarily dictate water or sewer
usage.
Moore/ The only other thing I would say is I don't know if someone
told me and I don't know who it was that this is one of the
highest residential utility bills that there have been in a
long time. Is there any kind of a flexibility in this process
at all for extreme cases like this?
Horow/ I think the next thing to do really would be to talk to the
staff about this because we don't have facts and figures in
front of us to help you one way or another. I think-I have
appreciated you telling us your story because it is true. If
you can't catch a leak you do pay for it and we have had
complaints about going to the one month bill but I am saying
in your case it has proven the value of having a one month
bill. Not to your benefit.
Throg/ I thoroughly agree with you about your point about the one
month bill. To just delegate this to the staff is to push the
policy question to them. The policy question is basically what
should be done when someone has an extraordinarily high bill
when it comes out of the blue.
Horow/ My point for that is that this is a public discussion period
for other people to talk about this and I don't think we can
solve it this evening. That is the point that I think we will
have to take this up later and I would like you to talk with
Don Yucuis (can't hear). And what Jim's point is that this
would have to be a discussion during a work session of council
to look at the policies we have. They may be reaffirmed or
they may be (can't hear). But this isn't the place.
Kubby/ But we have-We did vote and it was a 7-0 vote to have a
resolution to have a policy for low income households with the
new water and sewer bills but we haven't finalized what that
means and it may be part of that discussion if there is a
household who has an aberration in their water usage because
of a leak, is there some way to deal with that within that
policy as well. That should be probably added to that list of
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discussion.
Horow/ Thank you very much.
Moore/ All right. I hope I didn't come at the wrong time.
Horow/ It is perfectly okay.
Kubby/ I hope you will go back to your subletter, too, and see if
you can arrange a payment plan between you and the subletter.
Moore/ Thank you very much.
Horow/ Anybody like to try to follow that act? This is public
discussion and we ask if anyone wants address council on an
issue that is not on the agenda, please do feel free to come
forward.
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Agenda
Iowa City City Council
Regular Council Meeting
August 1, 1995
Page 6
ITEM NO. 5 -
PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS,
at
Consider setting a public hearing for August 15, 1995, on a
resolution to annex a 3,05 acre tract located north of Ameri-
can Legion Road and west of Arlington Drive. (ANN94-0008}
Comment: At its July 18, meeting, by a vote of 5-2, with
Gibson and Scott voting no, the Planning and Zoning Commis-
sion recommended approval of this annexation. The
Commission's recommendation is consistent with the staff
recommendation.
Action:
Consider setting a public hearing for August 1.5, 1995, on an
ordinance amending the Zoning Ordinance by amending the
use regulations of a 3.05 acre tract located north of American
Legion Road and west of Arlington Drive from County RS,
Suburban Residential, to RS-5, Low Density Single-Family
Residential. (REZ94-0013)
Comment: At its July 18, meeting, by a vote of 6-1, with
Scott voting in the negative, the Planning and Zoning Commis-
sion recommended approval of this rezoning. 'The
Commission's recommendation is consistent with the staff
recommendation.
Action:
Public hearing on a resolution to annex an approximate 250
acre propar~y located north of 1-80 and west of N. Dubuque
Street. (ANN94-OO09)
Comment: At its July 6, meeting, by a vote of 6-0, the
Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of
the annexation of this property, which is the site of the
proposed water treatment plant. The Commission's recom-
mendation is consistent with the staff recommendation
contained in the .~taff report dated January 19.
Action ('ZT~,/L ( ~/~
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Regular Council Meeting
August 1, 1995
Page 7
Public hearing on an ordinance amending the Zoning Ordi-
nance by amending the use regulations of an approximate 2,50
acre property located north of 1-80 and west of N. Dubuque
Street from County A1, Rural; RS, Suburban Residential; and
R3A, Suburban Residential; to P, Public. (REZ94-0018)~/~
Comment: At its July 6, meeting, by a vote of 6-0, the
Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of
this rezoning. The Commission's recommendation is consis-
tent with the staff recommendation contained in the January
19 staff report.
Action:_ "~,~ ~'~. ~~
Public hearing or~ an ordinance amending Title 14, Chapter 4,
"Land Control and Development," Article C, "Historic Preser-
vation Regulations," and Chapter 6, "Zoning," Article J,
"Overlay Zones" to allow the City to designate historic
landmarks and conservation districts.
Comment: At its July 6, meeting, by a vote of 4-2, with
Jakobsen and Starr voting no, the Planning and Zoning
Commission recommended approval of the amendments to
allow the designation of conservation districts and, by a vote
of 6-0, recommended approval of the amendments to allow
the designation of historic landmarks. The Historic Preserva-
tion Commission, by a vote of 5-0, also recommended
approval of the amendments at its May 9, meeting.
Action:
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ITEM NO. $e.
Public hearing on an ordinance amending Title 14,
Chapter 4, "Land Control and Development," Article
C, "Historic Preservation Regulations," and Chapter
6, "Zoning," Article J, "Overlay Zones" to allow
the City to designate historic landmarks and
conservation districts.
Horow/ Declare the p.h. open.
Doug
Russell/ I am here representing the Historic Preservation
Commission. I thank you for your time considering these
ordinance changes and I would like to make a brief
presentation to outline them and I would be glad to answer any
questions you may have about them. There are two things we are
proposing to do. Both of these were recommended in the HP Plan
of 1992. All of the ten focus areas of town mentioned in the
HP Plan could be affected by this legislation. There are
possible landmarks in all ten of these neighborhoods or areas
and conservation districts may be appropriate in eight of the
ten. So this could have some wide spread effect. The first
thing we intend to do is to ask for authority for the council
to designate landmarks. A landmark would be an individual
building or site or a small group of buildings that is not
appropriate to be an historic district. The procedures for
designating landmarks would be the same as for historic
districts. The protections provided by the statute would be
the same. The standards for review of changes in building
permits for landmarks would be the same. What is new is the
coverage. This will give us an opportunity to designate
something that couldn't be a historic district by itself like
Old Brick or the Johnson County Court House or the Close
Mansion or the former Press Citizen building or the College
Block Building which houses Bushnell's or the original airport
hangar or the Englert Theater or the old log cabins in city
park. Something along those lines. Or a small grouping of
buildings like Barbara's Bake Shop and Rentertainment where it
wouldn't be a district but could be a landmark. So that would
be new. Also you would be giving the authority to designate
something that is not a building. A landscape architecture
area or an archaeological site. Another new thing would be
that this ordinance would create a registry of historic
districts and landmarks so that information would be available
in one place for historians and citizens. The other new thing
would be that the ordinance would create a historic landmark
placque program so that we would have some form of brass
placque available to be placed on these buildings so the
public 6ould be educated about the history. We think the end
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result of a landmark ordinance would be the same as the HP
Ordinance. It will allow important buildings in our district
to be preserved. We are only 156 years old or so and we would
like to see some of these same buildings make it for the next
century and a half. The Conservation District Ordinance is the
second thing that we are asking you to create. The statute
contains the definition. A thumb nail sketch definition of a
conservation district is an area of buildings the majority of
which are more than 50 years old which reflect the traditional
character of an Iowa City neighborhood, say Rundell Street
would be an example of that or Jefferson Street just north of
the University campus or say the Longfellow School
Neighborhood. It would be an area that might have too few
buildings of an historic character to qualify to be a historic
district but still have a compatibility of structures or
design. Say, Ronald Street or perhaps North Dubuque Street or
it could be a neighborhood or an area where there is a pattern
of neighborhood settlement that is relevant to Iowa City
districts. Say Goosetown or the Longfellow Neighborhood, again
or it could be an area of unique character or distinctiveness.
This could be perhaps the market street commercial district.
It could be fraternity row on North Dubuque Street. There are
all kinds of possibilities. And what would actually be
proposed as a conservation district would be subject to survey
and study and reports to you. The procedures for designating
a conservation district are very similar to those for historic
districts except that a group of citizens may initiate the
process. It doesn't just require the preservation to act. Once
the process begins, the new step for conservation districts
would be that a conservation district report would be prepared
and that would be the basis for designating the conservation
district and it would include historic facts, architectural
surveys, information about the character of the neighborhood
relevant to having it designated in the first place. It would
also contain specific design review guidelines for that
neighborhood and it would be expected that design review would
vary from neighborhood to neighborhood. What is appropriate in
Goosetown might not be appropriate in Manville Heights and so
forth. Each step of the procedure in designated a conservation
district would have safe guards for the property owners and
for the residents. As we do now, there would be notice. There
would be p.h.s at every step of the process including the HP
Commission, P/Z Commission and city council. With notice and
adequate opportunity for hearing we think that the citizens
needs will be met. If a district is created there will be
design review within that conservation district with specific
standards for which will be established in the ordinance that
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you will be asked to vote upon. There is in the conservation
district report a big role for a neighborhood residents and
property owners to be heard on what the standards should be
and what the regulations should be. The goals of this
ordinance are to conserve neighborhoods integrity. We want to
avoid incremental demolition of neighborhoods. It has happened
to the Near Southside Neighborhood which in affect, no longer
exists. We want to avoid incompatible infill which is
something that happened on East College Street, for example.
Something that is happening now on North Dubuque Street. We
want to protect older buildings from demolition by pieces.
First the porch comes off, then the carriage house comes down.
Pretty soon it is just such an old shabby house it is not
worth saving. We want to protect these areas that may not be
appropriate as historic districts now but that they will have
the integrity to become historic districts 50-100 years from
now. Think again of the Longfellow Neighborhood for example.
What we are trying to avoid is things in the neighborhood
which are intact. The kind of mansion-plexes that invaded
College Street. The kind of mansion want to be-s that invaded
Bowery Street. We don't want to put a stainless steel silo
next to a wood frame house. And we don't want to put a multi-
unit apartment building with no front door on Dubuque Street
as has already happened. The goal is to try and preserve the
context of the neighborhoods and I know the question have
arisen what is the tradition neighborhood and I hope that the
examples that I have given you would be some answer to that
question. I would be glad to address any questions that you
may have for us.
Pigott/ Doug, could I ask if you were in a conservation district
and you wanted to make a change to your house and you were not
happy with the decisions that came down about the change you
wanted to make, what kind of appeal would you have as a
homeowner under the conservation?
Russell/ There is a right of appeal and the final appeal goes to
the, I believe, to the city council. Maybe the staff can
correct me on that. It is either to the Board of Adjustment or
the to the city council.
Woito/ Board of Adjustment.
Russell/ It would be like other zoning matters that go to the Board
of Adjustment and that would be the right of recourse. And of
course, if they are not satisfied with the administrative
process, they can always sue us. No one has sued the city
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under the HP Ordinance since it was inaugurated in-
Throg/ Doug, you made a reference right near the end of your talk
about defining characteristics of traditional neighborhoods
and I noticed that, I don't remember what page it is, that
somewhere in the definition of conservation districts it says
that it would define the traditional character of Iowa City
neighborhoods in terms of architectural characteristics,
building scales, building setbacks and streetscape design. And
what I wondered about last night and wonder about now is
whether those characteristics are defined in the HP Plan or
whether there are sketches in the plan or any other location
that neighborhoods understand what those characteristics mean
in terms of traditional neighborhoods.
Russell/ There are plenty of graphic illustrations about what we
mean. They don't really fit in a city ordinance but they would
fit appropriately in a conservation district report and for
historic districts we have prepared the Design Review and
Guideline Book which says preferred, not preferred, do this,
don't do that and so forth. And this would have something
similar for conservation districts. But to give you an
example: You have a row of houses of modest scale, wood and
stone construction on say Rundell Street which I take as a
good example. You don't really want to put a big brick
apartment building in there. You don't want to put a stainless
steel round art deco building in there. We moved-The city
moved an American four square clapboard house from Bowery
Street to Rundell Street and that worked just fine. That is an
example of what we would like to do. If you had a row of
houses that were prairie architecture style and there was a
vacant lot the design review would say don't build an A-frame
there. That is the kind of thing we have in mind. If you have
a neighborhood that is full of porches, you don't want to
build an apartment building that has no front door. That is
sort of what we had in mind. We also would say that we don't
define terms like setback. They may be defined elsewhere in
the code. But if you have a neighborhood of houses, take South
Summit Street, where the houses are fairly far back from the
street, to place a building right on the sidewalk would be
inappropriate. I think it would destroy the whole streetscape.
So it is that kind of compatibility with other structures that
we are aiming for.
Throg/ Suppose the task is more difficult for situation that are of
the type of conservation district proposal that is directed
towards where you have a mixture of housing types, housing
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sizes, some apartment units, some other s.f. units. A real mix
of styles and types and so on and I guess that is the reason
for having unique conservation reports written for each of the
conservation districts. Is that correct?
Russell/ Yeah, I think that is right and we would not say that
because we have small size houses on Rundell Street, for
example, you can't build a ranch house or that you can't build
a bungalow or that you can't build a brick house as opposed to
a wood house. But certain things don't fit and the goal would
be the allow people to maximum freedom while protecting the
rights of all the neighborhood and the neighbors and trying to
preserve the fabric and the texture of that particular
neighborhood and I think the important thing at this point
about these standards and just exactly what is going to be
regulated and how, this is where the citizen input will come
in. The citizens will be participating in the writing of the
design review guidelines and if there is any portion of the
citizenry in the neighborhood that doesn't like them I am sure
they will be here to talk about them.
Pigott/ For each conservation district, is that correct?
Russell/ Each conservation district would have its own set of
guidelines because different things may be important. Mass of
buildings or setbacks or whatever.
Pigott/ So in other words, the neighborhoods gets a right in say in
this process.
Russell/ They have a say in this process. They have a say in what
we pass to present to you. Then, of course, the Commission and
the P/Z Conumission and the city council have the right to say
yea or nay. And each stage, citizens have a right to comment
further. So it is subject to amendment all the way through but
our goal is to try and have citizen input at the most
meaningful point.
Horow/ Thank you, Doug.
Kubby/ Would it be in the ordinance or in each conservation
district report for continuing to amend the report of each
conservation district. If as neighborhoods get older the
concerns might where we felt more strongly or be in a
different direction and there needs to be some process for
amendment once it is set up. Where is the process laid out?
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Russell/ It is not laid out in the present ordinance. I would
expect it would be in the conservation district report and the
rules for that district. I don't really anticipate that once
designated, a conservation district will be undone.
Kubby/ I was thinking more of the details of what the tradition is
for that conservation district may shift over time or get
added onto over time.
Russell/ I understand and I think that would be subject to
amendment over time because these neighborhoods are going to
evolve in ways we can't even contemplate right now.
Throg/ One other brief point that I have got is the ordinance talks
in terms of neighborhoods of which are the built portions are
more than 50 years of age and I am just making an observation
here, in another ten years from now, post WWII subdivisions
will become eligible to be conservation districts and yet in
know way could they be defined as having the characteristics
of traditional neighborhoods in Iowa City. So, about ten years
from now, we are going to face an interesting question.
Russell/ We are and I think all of these definitions change and I
am sure there are a lot of buildings that today we would prize
as National Register Historic Properties that were torn down
because there were old junk. We are just lucky that some of
them are kept as long as we did. I think you are right. I mean
some question arose when one of the early McDonald Hamburger
Stands with the garish arches and white tiles was proposed to
the National Register. People said my God, that is ugly and
the response was it is history. It is not really an aesthetic
judgement as much as an architectural and historic one and in
this context the neighborhood judgement about what the
character is as it evolves.
Horow/ Thank you very much. Anyone else care to address council
about the ordinance for the conservation district or historic
landmark designation?
Paula Brandt/ 824 North Gilbert and I am here representing Friends
of HP. Good evening to all of you. We hope very sincerely that
the council will pass both of these ordinances. They are good
for buildings, they are good for neighborhoods and they are
good for the community because they link us to our past and to
our history and to what is special about Iowa City. What is
special about Iowa City is not South Johnson Street though. It
is all of our other neighborhoods that really reflects the
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past and what really judge to be the future of this town.
we hope that you pass this. Thank you.
So
Horow/ Anyone else care to address council on this? Declare the
p~h. closed.
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Iowa City City Council
Regular Council Meeting
August 1, 1995
Page 8
Public hearing on an ordinance amending the Zoning Ordi-
nance by conditionally amending the use re{lulations of an
approximate 7,8 acres located east of Old Dubuque Road and
north of Dodge Street from RS-5, Low Density Single-Family
Residential, to OPDH-8, Planned Development Housing
Overlay, and RS-8, Medium Density Single-Family, (REZ95-
00401
Comment: At its July 6, meeting, by a vote of 6-0, the
Planning and Zoning Commission recommended denial of this
rezoning. This recommendation is inconsistent with the staff
recommendation, In the June 1 5, staff report, staff recom-
mended approva! o:[ the p(oposed rezoning, ..~,~.. ,¢~'~.)
Consider a resolution to annex approximately 103,86 acres, ~,
which includes the Highway 218/Highway 1 interchange and ~
propeAy located in the southwest quadrant of the inter-
change. (ANNe5-0001) ~~~
Comment: At its June 15, meeting, by a vote of 6-0, the
Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of
this annexation. This recommendation is consistent with the
City staff recommendation contained in the staff report dated
Jun~ 15. No public comments were received at the July 18
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ITEM NO. 5f.
Public hearing on an ordinance amending the Zoning
Ordinance by conditionally amending the use regula-
tions of an approximate 7.8 acres located east of
Old Dubuque Road and north of Dodge Street from RS-
5, Low Density Single-Family Residential, to OPDH-
8, Planned Development Housing Overlay, and RS-8,
Medium Density Single-Family. (REZ95-0010)
Horow/ Last evening council discussed this and ¢ouncil's discussion
was an intent to refer this-We gave an indication to refer
this back to P/Z Commission for a decrease in the density and
to provide somehow for the controlling of the development from
the southerly (can't hear). We will have a public hearing on
this and take the comments, close the p.h. and then there will
be a vote to council whether to refer back to P/Z.
Declare the p.h. open. I ask you to state your name and keep
your comment to five minutes and we have learned there is no
delegation to one spokesperson that can then speak for 15-20
minutes for four people. So this is no more than five minutes.
Mary
Losch/ 1252 Oakes Drive and if I am truly only going to have
five minutes I will have to break the statement up because I
am here representing 86 households and they will not all speak
tonight if I make my full statement. Many of them will, most
of them will be up here if I don't. I am just letting you know
that and have a two minute videotape that is part of this. But
We are trying to-this is a consensus of the neighborhood. The
attached statement include the signature of every household.
Horow/ Would you like to start with the video?
Losch/ No, it in part of the traffic portion. So it wouldn't fit
exactly at the beginning.
[Reads August letter to City Council from Residents of Old
Dubuque Road, Bristol Drive, Oakes Drive, Quincent Street and
Quincent Court.] [Presents Video of Traffic.]
Horow/ Mary, your time unfortunately has expired. Is there anyone
else that would be able to-?
Losch/ I have two more pages and I will finish up otherwise we will
have people tripping up here to try to finish it. If you would
prefer I will read the conclusion. [Reads letter.]
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Losch/ Because we were curious about what in fact would be
available if this were not constructed. And that includes some
openings at Villa Garden which was Mr. Burns last project
which I thought was particularly noteworthy. [Reads Conclusion
of letter.] And I have a copy of this statement for you with
the appended signatures.
Horow/ Thank you, Mary. Are there any questions from council?
Anyone else that cares to address council on this issue?
Jim Holwerda/ I represent certain individuals of the Ecumenical
Consultation of Christian Churches. At the Ecumenical
Consultation we have long had an interest and put a lot of
energy into the provision of housing and our interest is in
the providing of affordable and diversified housing for people
of Iowa City. After examining the issue on July 19, we the
undersigned make the following resolution: We the undersigned
of the Ecumenical Consultation of Christian Churches, Iowa
City, Iowa, meeting July 19, 1995, urge rezoning of the parcel
of land located off North Dubuque Road which has been proposed
by the Greater Iowa City Housing Fellowship in partnership
with Mr. Robert Burns. It should be pointed out that the
adoption of this is done by us as individuals of the
Consultation and not by the Consultation as an organization.
The individuals who have signed are the Rev. Bruce Fisher,
Father Kenneth Kuntz, Mrs. Jackie Finn, Mr. Billy Howell-
Sinnard, Father Dennis Hoffman, The Rev. Patricia Halverson,
Mrs. Ann Shires, Mrs. Pat Brandt, Mrs. Etta Rasmussen, Father
David Hitch, The Rev. Bob Dean, The Rev. John McKinstry, and
The Rev. Jim Holwerda.
Pigott/ Thank you.
Horow/ Anyone else care to address council on this issue?
Linda Murray/ Chair CCN. As you know, CCN has not met yet to
discuss this specific project and we won't be meeting until
next week, on the ninth I think. I've been following this
project fairly closely both out of personal interest and I
think that it's part of my responsibility as chair. It's in
that viewpoint that I'm speaking to you tonight. CCN has not
adopted an official position on this project but I have.
Finding a way to provide decent affordable housing for Iowa
City's low income residents is and issue that both council and
CCN struggle with on an ongoing basis and not just when it
touches our individual lives. You are as aware as I am of the
difficulty that Mr. Burns and the fellowship have had in
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acquiring land to build this kind of project. I don't need to
remind you of the discussions that took place just a few
months ago as to whether or not additional funds should be
allocated for this purpose when the funds from the previous
year had not been expended. In the end however, based on CCN's
recommendation, you did allocate an additional $100,000 to the
Burns-Fellowship Partnership. Because I believe the strong
philosophical commitment to the goals of this partnership. Now
it is time for both of us, CCN and Council, to back up this
philosophical commitment with aotion. We can do that with this
project which is a valid and workable project. Yes, there are
some concerns but I haven't heard anything that can't be
worked out if the will to do so exists and I continue to
believe it does. So my question to you tonight is if this is
not the kind of project that we have allocated approximately
$500,000 in CDBG and Home funds in the past to Mr. Burns and
the Fellowship to do, then what is? I think we need to know
that. Thank you.
Horow/ Thank you.
Sharon Raffensperger/ I live on the south side of Iowa City and I
teach on the south side of Iowa City so I was very excited
when the Housing Fellowship came up with this project on the
north side of Iowa City for affordable housing. I'm also a
member of the Board of Trustees for the Housing Fellowship and
we spent many many many hours discussing whether we wanted to
take on a multiple housing project like this. But our goal is
to provide decent affordable housing for people in Iowa City
and we knew the goals was to provide decent affordable housing
and this seemed to be one of the fastest ways to do it, go
into a multiple housing project. I hope you'll give it a lot
of consideration before you vote.
Throg/ Thanks Sharon. Jim, it's always good to see a colleague from
the University.
Jim Stoner/ 1212 Oakes Drive. Both myself and my students have been
out taking traffic counts along Dodge Street for a number of
years. And I realize that the last thing City Council needs
tonight is probably a five minute traffic engineering lecture
so I'll try not to do that but I think in my opinion rezoning
to allow high density multifamily housing without allowing for
safe adequate access both for existing and future residents
isn't appropriate especially when there are really no plans to
address the traffic problems that a change in zoning would
create. In my view, the enthusiasm of some staff and other
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people for the project is not balanced by the recognition of
the problems created. First of all I'm sure you've all seen-
Horow/ Mr. Stoner, you're going to have to move that mic over a
tad.
Stoner/ That's fine. I'm sure you all recognize the (can't hear)
Dodge Street. Dodge Street is a radial community corridor,
provides 1-80 access and serves major employers and commuting
traffic from the north. It's also important I think to point
out that the top portion of Dubuque Road is a seal coated
road. It's not a hard surfaced city street. It's the only
major two lane corridors with direct access to the city. Peak
hour volumes approach that of Dubuque Street primarily because
you have ACT, NCS, Press-Citizen, and other commercial
development along Dodge Street. Off peak traffic is not
currently a problem but peak hour traffic is considerable.
Peak hour traffic on Dodge Street, this is just one one hour
traffic count I happened to do in June, I realize you probably
can't even see the numbers, but the numbers are very very
high. And with it the fifteen minute interval on southbound
traffic you see 265 vehicles and that primarily reflects the
traffic from ACT at that time. If the intersection is left
with the Dubuque roadway controlled by a stop sign, you have
peak hour level of service up will occur. And this means that
you'll have an average of greater than sixty seconds delay on
this stop sign controlled leg of the intersection. It's going
to be virtually impossible to get out of there. Currently
operates at approximately level of service C which means it's
acceptable and has less than twenty-five seconds average
delay. It'll take less than forty additional vehicles per hour
on Dubuque Road to reach this condition. Installing a light at
the intersection is not a solution. For one reason, the delays
on Dodge Street will become excessive. It's a state highway.
The state DOT would not allow it. Estimated annual increase in
fuel costs alone would be over a quarter of a million dollars
just for putting tke light in. This may help Dubuque Road
traffic but it would cause major problems on Dodge. Dubuque
Road is in some Ways similar to Prairie du Chien except that
residents do not have access to a secondary intersection like
Kimball to gain access to Dodge Street. A three phase light
with turning lanes would be appropriate and could be done, but
this improvement would probably require acquisition of land
for r.o.w. from 1406 Dubuque Road which is the second property
being considered for rezoning and consequently would increase
the acquisition costs for that property. The improvements that
to this intersection are not part of the proposal, Dodge
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Street improvements that are in the '97-'98, potentially in
the '97-'98 CIP, and as reported by staff, gaps will not be
created in the traffic stream that will allow safe access for
left turning traffic off of Dodge Street. The intersection
would continue to operate at level of service set up and
become a significant safety hazard. Pedestrian actuated cross
walks would also be required at Dodge and Dubuque Road and
this would complicate signalization but would possibly
increase safety. And so finally I just think this rezoning to
make this federally funded land acquisition worked out is not
really planning. Thank you.
Horow/ Thank you very much.
Throg/ Jim, oould I ask you a question? I think I heard you say
that even an additional forty vehicles would cause excessive
delay.
Stoner/ On Dubuque Road.
Throg/ Right. Okay.
Stoner/ If it remains a stop sign controlled intersection.
Throg/ How many housing units does that translate into if you make
standard assumptions in terms of trips per housing unit?
Stoner/ That's just in the peak hour, Jim, so you're probably
talking 20-25 housing units bringing it up to that level.
Throg/ Okay, so if the area develops to a single family density of
three to five units for all of the open space that could be
developed single family at that density, would we end up with
the same kind of problem in terms of excessive delays?
Stoner/ Eventually, yeah. I mean even if you look at them and
there's additional land platted at the present time that
that's you know it's fourteen additional housing units. I'm
not sure how many total would be, but they would potentially
be in the lots located. But I think it's very important if you
have a very huge multi-density unit that housing gets out of
control pretty quickly.
Throg/ You really mean to say huge multifamily unit in this
particular instance.
Stoner/ I mean any multifamily.
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Throg/ Okay.
Horow/ Any other questions?
Baker/ Yeah. Can I ask a variation on Jim's questionwhich I think
is a question which, there are two parts to your traffic
analysis. One is density and the other essentially
infrastructure. The traffic generation seems to at a point,
you seem to be saying, the road width, the access, the lights,
all the infrastructure questions are not actually handling and
any additional density will dramatically exacerbate that
problem so is the- I'm trying to see if the real solution here
in your mind is simply not any increased density.
Stoner/ That's one solution. The other option is for significant,
when the re-do the Dodge Street corridor, I think you're
talking about a more significant project than you currently
have before you.
Baker/ But by the same token, could infrastructure changes also
potential solve an increased density?
Stoner/ If the - If the state DOT would allow you to add additional
traffic signals and a light on Dodge.
Baker/ I'm trying to understand if there's any sense in your own
mind or the neighborhood's mind about an acceptable density.
Thirty two units which would be the Comp Plan density as is.
Is that acceptable?
Stoner/ You have to see the site plan, and in any event, even with
thirty-two units, you'll have a significant increase in
traffic. I have to say that, who's to say.
Baker/ Okay.
Stoner/ You're going to have significantly greater delays whether
people would find alternative traffic paths, maybe they will,
maybe they won't.
Kubby/ What we just approved off of Quincent street. There were
fourteen lots there, plus there's more land to be developed
and I guess I see the same concerns are there for the single
family detached for any more traffic period.
Audience/ (Can't hear).
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Horow/ We can't pick this up if you're going to speak away from the
mic. The answer was yes, they are concerned about that. Any
other specific questions for Jim?
Throg/ Yeah, unless Ernie did you want to? The core problem is
Dodge Street isn't it? I mean, it's not traffic on Old
Dubuque. What you're pointing to is that the raise encountered
in trying to get on to Dodge Street from Old Dubuque, right?
Stoner/ Right. Or in getting off of Dodge Street to turn left on
Dubuque Road.
Throg/ Both of which are a function of the traffic volume on Dodge
Street. Right?
Stoner/ Dodge Street. That is correct.
Throg/ Now would you agree that if we have additional development
farther out on North Dodge, either a commercial or office
development or in fact single family units at a lower ~ensity
farther out, that we will in fact see significant increases in
traffic on North Dodge regardless of what we do in this
particular instance?
Stoner/ Yes.
Throg/ Now in this instance, if we have a choice between providing
low density development for forty-one units farther out
somewhere, either out North Dodge or out Kirkwood or out
Melrose or out somewhere, would you agree that the literature
basically says that those forty~one units will generate more
trips and longer trips than would multifamily units closer in
toward town?
stoner/ That's true. But you're still going to have the queuing
problem on Dubuque Road.
Throg/ Sure.
Stoner/ That's just where probably the greatest problem is going to
be encountered.
Throg/ That queuing problem's going to exist, isn't it, regardless
because of increases in traffic problems on North Dodge?
Stoner/ It'd be increased but the biggest concern is still going to
be what your traffic arrival rate is going to be at the end of
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the queue on Dubuque Road. That's what's going to determine
what the delays are. But it's a relatively smaller number of
vehicles overall.
Kubby/ What's the acceptable level of delay? Is that sixty seconds
or less?
Stoner/ No. Typically~ at level of service C is what most of your
subdivisions requirements.
Kubby/ And what is that level of delay.
Stoner/ For a stop sign controlled intersection you are talking
less than 25 seconds.
Kubby/ Okay, thanks.
Throg/ Thanks, Jim.
Horow/ Anyone else that cares to address council?
Liz Allen/ I just wanted to say that I sat through as many City
STEPS meetings as you did, Mayor Horow, and we all know that
we are in need of low income housing. I do agree with the
front page of the Press Citizen tonight when council members
had stated that the council should write a policy that spells
out exactly what you are looking for in low income housing
proposals and as a member of the Board-As a Board member of
the Greater Iowa City Housing Fellowship I feel that our
Fellowship is trying to help the needs and there are a need of
over 2000 units and not letting this pass and not giving us a
chance to help the needs of Iowa City is only stopping us from
bringing that need down to 1959. Thanks.
Horow/ Is there anyone else who cares to address council on this
issue?
Kathy Folk/ 1241 Oakes Drive. My comment is very simple. Where is
our neighborhood park? Where is our open green space? You are
taking more land away from us. We are becoming land locked. We
are going to be this island inside of roadways. Where is our
neighborhood park for children and adults to meet? Isn't that
part of what the city is suppose to provide us?
Kubby/ This property is not public property at this time. It is
private property.
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Horow/ It does have the right to be subdivided.
Kubby/ It is public knowledge that there is a deficit of parkland
in that area. We definitely know where our deficits are and
whenever there is a development, we have a group of people
that looks at should we take land from this particular
development as designed and or should we have fee in lieu of
the land because it is not an appropriate place for public
space. And in this particular instance that group of people
said it is best to have a lieu in fee of as this was laid out°
Folk/ Who said that? Who made-
Kubby/ An Open Space Subcommittee of P/R Commission.
Folk/ That means we don't have a park, though.
Horow/ In this particular site.
Kubby/ It is not one particular development's responsibility to
provide parking for the whole area. It is as the area develops
it is an acknowledged part of the city's infrastructure and
the value that we have is to have open space in each part of
town. But it is not one development's responsibility to
provide it for the rest of the neighborhood. It is a
compilation as the area develops to create the space.
Folk/ Then I misunderstood that we were missing a green space. We
don't-
Kubby/ You have a deficit of around five acres of open space for
the whole neighborhood and as individual lost in the areas in
the whole neighborhood develop we look at is that particular
space appropriate to provide money to buy open space in
another area or to provide the space in that area. In this
particular instance that subcommittee said we would rather
have the money than the space because it is not appropriate to
have the open space for the whole neighborhood in that
location.
Folk/ But it doesn't make any sense. You mean if we live in the
neighborhood we will have to go across town to go to our
neighborhood park?
Kubby/ No, I don't think I am being clear. Maybe someone else could
describe this.
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Horow/ If the land that is up for sale right now were of a nature
that it was more appropriate for a park the Neighborhood Open
Space Committee might have considered this and voted against
this. But they took a look at it in terms of the ravines that
were there, in terms of the nature of the topography of the
land and felt that it was marginal at best for what is needed
in that area. Our ordinances have-are written so that the
developer has the ability to either set aside land
specifically for a park, part of a park, or give money in lieu
of that set aside so that at some point those moneys can
purchase parcels of land put them together in your area and
create a park. Does that make sense?
Pigott/ So future developments may, if future developments occur in
that area, those developers maybe asked-may have that choice
of providing land or a fee as well.
Horow/ Let me get a little more specific. If Mr. Oakes were
approached by the P/R Commission in terms of an area that they
had looked at that would be appropriate for a park, then they
would negotiate with him to purchase that land. The way they
get the money for that is this in lieu of aspect about the
ordinance.
Kubby/ The goal was that you can walk to your neighborhood park.
You are absolutely correct but it is not this particular
development's responsibility to provide open space for the
whole neighborhood.
Pigott/ And maybe it will be a combination of other developments
should other spaces develop in that area in the future. That
in combination how to develop that open space that you are
talking about.
Folk/ It sounds like you are taking away more and more of our open
space. There won't be any space left for an open space park.
Throg/ Here is another way to say it, Kathy. At least my effort to
say it. Right now the folks that live on Quincent and Oakes
and so on are surrounded by open space and it is pretty neat.
I mean I have been out there quite a few times. There is
plenty of open space around those subdivisions. It is all
privately owned. And the only way that you can have a
neighborhood park is if the city buys some land or if one of
the landowners chooses, out of goodwill, to donate land to the
city for a private park.
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Folk/ I understand that. Why doesn't thecity buy some of that land
instead of making it into apartment buildings?
Horow/ Because in the Open Space Plan there are other areas that
also need parks. There are designated priorities in terms of
who needs and who has more density and which neighborhoods
need more open space. It comes downto that. The city doesn't
have enough money to buy open space for all neighborhoods.
That is the way it is.
Folk/ But I would just like you to consider that because my
daughter is now ten years old and we have lived there for
twelve years and she has missed a lot of chances to go to a
park in the neighborhood. It is going to be too late for her
and for us-
Horow/ My daughter has graduated from high school and she has not
had that chance either. We live 0n Kirkwood Avenue. Not all
neighborhoods have neighborhood open spaces right adjacent to
them. We are trying to rectify that as well as we can.
Folk/ I appreciate that. I just hope thut¥ou would also balance if
you are taking something away fromus I fell we are still due
something in terms of open space and safeness and a place for
children to play and people to meet safely.
Horow/ Would anyone else care to address council?
Rite Arora/ 1262 Oakes Drive. And what I am here to say is that we
all, the whole neighborhood, is behind the idea of affordable
housing. We know there is a need and we know that it should be
done. What I have been hearing is these great big apartment
buildings where the kids and there are going to be a number of
kids that is going to be playing out there are going to have
parking lots to play in. They are going to walk over the HyVee
and they are going to play in the HyVee parking lot or they
are going to-The street that we are talking about, on Dubuque
Road, they are going to be playing on Dubuque Road. This is
the future that we envision for our kids. I mean why can't we
do s.f. housing or duplexes where they gave have green space
to play in front of them and don't have to go into the parking
lots to play. I mean these are little kids that are going to
be there for a long time. And they deserve that. They deserve
to have open spaces. They deserve to have some areas to play
in rather than be out on the streets playing where we are
already staying and we see by the traffic counts that it is
unsafe to play. The issue is not affordable housing. The issue
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is density and the amount and what are we giving them. They
are going to build these huge complexes which everybody has
shown don't work.
Kubby/ We are not talking about South Chicago and 32 levels of
apartments. We are talking about two story apartment buildings
that are what? 8-plexes in some instances. We are not talking
about the projects and we are not talking about a development.
This makes me very frustrated because I hear what you are
saying but it is not the affordability or the people who will
live there but it is the density. But I do want to make sure
that we are all talking about the same project and it might be
useful if Mr. Burns could show what we are talking about so
that there is not mis-information because this is not high
density. This is not big apartment buildings and there are
open spaces for people to play in in this development.
Arora/ Where? Where?
Kubby/ There is a whole outlot behind the buildings-
Arora/ The ravine? There is a ravine at the back and also-
Kubby/ It is. It is a form of open space but-
Arora/ I understand what you are saying.
Kubby/ Make sure that people are talking about the same project and
for some of us tonight I feel like we are not.
Arora/ I understand that and we understand that it is not Chicago
but the concept that you are going to provide for them where
you are taking away parking spaces. You are saying we don't
have adequate parking spaces so we cut down on the number of
lots that you are required to park on. We don't have ample
space even to provide parking. So that is where they are going
to be playing. So the concept is the same.
Kubby/ There is a rationale behind the variance for reducing the
parking because people don't need to make as many trips
because they are near a commercial area because a household
that we are talking about is not going to be having 2-3 cars.
We are talking about families who are working full time who
don't have 2-3 vehicles.
Arora/ They have no neighborhood center to play in. They are going
to have not area to play in.They don't have enough land to put
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the parking lots in. So this is where they are going to be
playing. These are the playgrounds. So the idea and the
concept even though you say that it is not-We understand that
it is not big high rises and stuff but the concept is the
same.
Kubby/ I want to make sure that the language is right.
Arora/ Okay. All right.
Kubby/ You can make whatever point you want but don't say these are
high density because it is not. It is higher than you want.
Arora/ It is not higher than we want. It is higher than what is bad
for the area. It is not higher than-
Kubby/ That is okay to make your point but when people- A couple of
times people tonight have said high density apartments, big
apartment complexes. I am disagreeing with that.
Arora/ When there are more than one 8-plex put side by side it
becomes high density. Anytime you put 8-plexes side by side in
an area that does not call for that kind of zoning, it is high
density and that is the concept that is written into our
zoning ordinances. I didn't make it up.
Kubby/ RS-8 is medium density.
Arora/ But you are going to (can't hear).
Kubby/ Agreed, the facts are there.
Arora/ I am just telling you the facts. I mean that's the way it
IS.
Kubby/ Can you find a way to make it?
Arora/ Well maybe I have a problem with the language. It's
possible, but the concept that I'm trying to present is the
meaning of what you're saying. We're just talking about the
fact that these are little kids. And the safety, if there
should be an accident, any kid, any adult die over there or
anything happen over there, it's on our heads. It's dangerous.
We can see it even now and it will happen in the future. And
it's been on my conscience. It's something I wanted to bring
up.
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Horow/ Thank you very much. Anyone care to address council on this
issue?
Baker/ Sue can I ask a question?
Horow/ Oh, do you have a question?
Baker/ I was wondering if Bob had the scale of the site plan
itself. Not for this audience, but for the audience that might
be watching this meeting, because I would suspect that the
neighbors have seen the plans, so we don't need to show them
again. But if you have something that we could-
Burns/ Could put on the overhead?
Baker/ Overhead or would work in front of a camera.
Horow/ I assume that the neighborhood has been briefed by Mr.
Burns. They know the size of these complexes. They know the
issues that we're talking about here, okay.
Baker/ Because the site plan I looked at had recreation space.
Pigott/ Some space.
Mary Losch/ I think most everyone in the neighborhood is extremely
familiar with the site plan. We know the number of buildings
and we know the square footage of the play area. And that's
the basis for our concerns.
Baker/ All right. I think that a lot of people who are watching
this meeting tonight do not know it so it's not really for
anybody here and Bob could give us some more details on that.
Burns/ (Can't hear).
Baker/ Sure go ahead.
Horow/ Is there anyone else who cares to address council on this
issue right now?
Dean
Thornberry/ When one desires to build or buy a home in a
certain area and does all their home work regarding zoning,
density, land uses and so on, and then goes ahead and locates
to that area, they expect certain things. They know if there's
a playground or not a playground in the area. They know what
the density is for that area. They know what the land uses
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are. And all of a sudden a developer comes and puts a project
in there having to change the zoning that you've already
researched after the fact, there's just nothing you can count
on then. My suggestion for this entire area is for the
developer to explore the available land and it is available
that is already zoned appropriately and is for sale for this
project in the north side of Iowa City. Don't necessarily
rezone land in a single family dwelling neighborhood when
there is land available and for sale that is zoned
appropriately for this project. Now I have to read this,
Karen. But still, building high density affordable apartment
units is unfair to the resident. And this high density thing
is for Iowa City. No, it's no Cabrini Green. But it's high
density to the area that they're putting it in which is single
family area. That's what we're saying as far as high density.
There are no apartments in that area. There's not even any
duplexes in the area.
Kubby/ Let's see a ratio of units per land. This is a medium
density, even if we took it down to eight, it's medium.
Thornberry/ There are no duplexes in the area.
plexes in the area. And they're wanting
don't know.
There are no four-
to put in what? I
Audience/ (Can't hear).
Thornberry/ Many, many. Of two and three bedroom apartments. That's
what we're saying as far as high density compared to what's
already there.
Audience/ (Can't hear).
Thornberry/ A duplex, zero lot line or similar would be far more
favorable instead of rezoning a long standing single family
area. Thank you.
Horow/ Thank you.
Throg/ Dean, can I ask you a question?
Thornberry/ Sure. Yes, I am running.
Throg/ What would it matter to me? I understood you to say that
home owners should expect that zoning in their neighborhood
should remain constant so that they have a sense of some
durability of current zoning so that when they buy a house
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they know what the zoning around the house is going to be. Did
I hear you say that?
Thornberry/ I'm saying that when you buy or build a house, it's the
largest expenditure you'll ever make in your lifetime. And
when you do it and do it properly, you look at the area that
you want to be in~ not necessarily who the neighbors are but
the way it's zoned, etc. Yes.
Throg/ Okay. So are you saying then that developers should never
apply to council for rezoning?
Thornberry/ On a very infrequent basis. I've been before this
council and the previous council for rezoning possibility and-
I'm sorry. It never got to the council. It went to P/Z. And
along with staff, they recommended that I not apply for a
rezoning because they did not really want to fezone the land
that had already been rezoned one way. That's why I built my
Burger King on land that was already zoned commercial. I have
done things, built a apartment building that was already zoned
for that. I have not rezoned any land in Iowa City and very
very infrequently, I think, should land be rezoned.
Throg/ Of course I wasn't trying to peg you.
Thornberry/ In every single council meeting, I believe without
exception, rezoning issues have come before this council. And
I don't understand if we had a good zoning plan for the city
of Iowa City, why the rezoning needs to.
Throg/ But I'm simply trying to understand
that developers should not apply, in
apply to council to rezone their land.
whether you're saying
principle, should not
Thornberry/ Well, when the land is vacant. You say developers. I'm
saying for example, a farm. It's got to be rezoned from farm
land to anything else. True. When the city of Iowa City was
planned and as has got the old plan, sure, it needs to be
revised periodically in area by area. But once a neighborhood
is solidified, I think it should remain a neighborhood.
don't think you should tear down old houses and put up fast
food joints. I don't think we should tear down an old school
and make a mall. I don't think that should be done. I really
don't.
Throg/ Okay. Thanks.
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Horow/ Thank you very much. Any one else care to address council?
Bob, do you have something to say at this point?
Bob
Burns/ I'm a local architect. I have a great deal of
information with me tonight and I've been collecting my
thoughts here and working as you have. But I did want to point
out to start out by saying that back in May, before we even
submitted a request for rezoning, we contacted the
neighborhood by contacting the neighbors within the first 200
feet within the boundary of our property and shared with them
our plan. This project started out as a 66 unit multi-family
housing project which is the lowest density permitted for
apartments in Iowa City, RM-12, 66 units. That's what the
zoning ordinance provides for. That's what we were submitting.
You can see on this overhead the meeting that we had through
may and into June. The problem now is that we keep hearing the
same thing from the neighborhood. We've reduced the units,
first to 41 units after the staff review and after input from
the community, and after last night's meeting with the
informal meeting with the city council, we can see that the 41
units which is at a density of 10 units per acre, is not
acceptable to two of the council members. And since a super
majority is required, we realized that it's not going to pass,
so we are willing to accept a lower density and we have a
plan. [Shows plan] This plan is for 32 apartments, office, one
manager's apartment as part of a community building/core house
which we are proposing for the residents for their own use and
for their guests. At this point, we think it's going to be
difficult to finance the community building and the manager's
apartment, but we'd like you to consider that in your
deliberation and we'd like P/Z to consider it if you consider
this back to them.
Baker/ Bob, is it the same number of buildings?
Burns/ No.
Baker/ It's one less building?
Burns/ There's four eight-plexes.
Baker/ Versus, what was the?
Burns/ (Can't hear).
Pigott/ Four eight-plexes.
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Throg/ Let's have the northeast one.
Burns/ This is the community one.
Kubby/ Marian has a laser thing so you can stand by the mic. We
have a special gadget so you can stand by the mic and point.
Baker/ It will burn holes in cloth.
Burns/ The community building. This two bedroom eight-plex is the
same location 41 unit project. To show the council what the
exterior elevations of the eight-plex look like, they're two
story.
Pigott/ Bob, the camera's are-
Burns/ That's a three bedroom eight-plex, two story. Another three
bedroom eight-plex, two story. And another three eight-plex,
two story. The children's play area east of the community
building has been enlarged by moving this building farther to
the east.
Pigott/ How big is that, Bob? How big in the play area now?
Burns/ This dimension would be about a 70 feet from the patio to
the building and it would be about 100 feet from the sidewalk
to the sidewalk. This will give you an idea of scale. What we
have been able to gain by eliminating one of the 8-plexes is
more open space in the northeast part of the site and that-
What we were showing there is hard surface play area which is
the size of a regulation half court junior high basketball
court. So we have done this so we can separate the smaller
children's play area from the older kids. Now this has been in
the project since the beginning is a gazebo which will be a
screened in gazebo for just __ recreation and a barbecue
area in the center court yard. ~-~h these kind of amenities I
challenge anybody to go find a project that has these kinds of
amenities for 32 units in Iowa City. So there is our plan.
Horow/ Okay, thank you very much.
Throg/ Thanks, Bob.
Horow/ We will refrain from asking you detailed questions because
this particular p.h. is on the rezoning. And so that I would
prefer that this does not get into smaller details.
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Burns/ I have one issue on open space. Can I bring that up to you?
I think it is important. We went to the Assessor's Office and
calculated the 70 s.f. residences in along Bristol Drive and
the three Oakes subdivisions and compared them to our site.
Our site area is 178,808 square feet. The total floor area of
our buildings is 38,977 square feet or what we call a green
space ratio of 4.5:1.
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Bob Burns/ For the data with me. But just to give you an example,
this is Hills Addition.
Baker/ Why don't you move the thing over so the names don't show.
Yeah. I think that is better.
Burns/ This is an example of Hills Addition where we
calculated the site area and the floor area from the
Assessor's data and you can see the green space ratio that is
lower that ours would be an example of a s.f. lot that has
less open space than we have on our property and of the 70
lots, we have more than 46 of them.
Kubby/ Bob, I had a question about- A couple of people have brought
up the issue that there, on the north side, are some areas
that would be big enough for this kind of development that are
currently zoned appropriately and that they are available for
sale. Could you address that?
Burns/ Yes.
Kubby/ Why aren't you purchasing those properties or one of those
properties?
Burns/ We are always open to anyone who is interested in selling
their properties but to my knowledge, the one that they are
talking about is Bruce Glasgow's property between Prairie du
Chien and Dubuque Street and we have talked to Bruce Glasgow,
we being the Fellowship and I. Met with them in my office,
toured the site, talked about a location where we might be
able to build a project but there is no street, there is no
water, there is no sewer and there is no possibility of
developing a private site that has none of those services. It
is just not-He hasn't subdivided it and in fact, he doesn't
own all of the property that he has to have access to get an
access between Dubuque Street and Prairie du Chien. So-
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Kubby/ So it is ].and that the infrastructure is not and that would
increase the cost to develop.
Horow/ This is an issue about the rezoning of this particular
parcel. I don't want to get this particular p.h. mixed up with
other aspects of what ifs. Let's stick strictly with this
rezoning. Thank you, Bob. Are there any other questions for
Bob? Okay, thank you.
Throg/ I guess I would like to ask one. I guess in the spirit of
fairness I asked Jim Stoner some pointed questions. I would
like to ask you one. The information you just gave us about
green space ratio was not done on a per capita basis and I
think maybe if you did that on a per capita basis it would
look differently.
Burns/ In terms of- We are not talking about density, we are
talking about open space. It was an issue that came up at the
p.h.
Throg/ I understand but if you have a s.f. house on a s.f. lot with
3-4 people living in the building that would help you
calculate a per capita green space ratio. It is getting too
complicated here. Where if you are doing the same thing for 41
units or 32 units with 3-4 people in each of the units then
you would end up with a different per capita green space
ratio.
Burns/ I understand what you are saying, Jim. We were trying to
give an example of this is not a large scale high rise type
Chicago type project as it was being referred to as.
Throg/ Thanks, Bob.
Horow/ Does anyone else care to address council on this issue?
Kubby/ While people are signing in and out I want to apologize to
the audience for maybe seeming argumentative. I do think-
especially to Rita. But I do think it is important that our
language reflect what we really mean even though we know what
we are talking about here, people who are listening in don't
know. So forme my language is very important and I think we
got that all cleared up. But I just wanted to apologize for
the tone.
Bill Sueppel/ I wasn't going to speak because I thought everything
had been said. But we didn't come down here to talk about a
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new 32 unit plan. I think it is a disgrace. I think it is an
insult to city council and it is an insult to the 86
residents. They started out with 66 units. You said you talked
to somebody on May 24th. I don't know whom you talked to but
I know I was never contacted until after I had spoken at a
previous meeting which was in early June. I don't know who in
our area was contacted but he says he contacted people within
200 feet. If you look at the map, people within 200 feet are
probably 5 out of the 86. Maybe he talked to them, I don't
know. But we fought the 66 when we heard about it. Then we
came up with 41 which is way too high a density. Totally
contrary to any concept of zoning in Iowa City with what we
have adopted over the years. Forget about low rent housing. I
am talking strictly zoning and comprehensive planning. It is
totally contrary. Now we are down to 32. Is this the plan in
the first place and if so, why didn't they come up with that
plan in the first place so we could have talked reasonably
about that type of a plan? I think this is an insult to the
council and to the people and a terrible waste of time. I want
to talk one other issue. I was shown here publicly that having
a house apparently with 4978 square feet. Now my house is not
4978 square feet. I don't know where Bob got these figures. My
house is 53 by 30 or something like that with a garage on it.
Now maybe they are counting the driveway. Maybe they are
counting my sidewalks that I have to put in to come up with
4900 feet. But addition to that, since there were no parks in
that area, several of the people who initially started out
there bought extra lots so we would have some place for the
kids to play. I still have a vacant lot. So I really have
30~000 square feet out there for a house of about 2300 square
feet. I am not sure what it is. I tell you what we did. When
we see somebody looking at the lot next door we would send all
of our children out there to start playing. Nobody wanted to
move in. Own little playground as did several people at that
time. We are talking in the mid-60's land was comparatively
very cheap compared to today. And was the only reason I wanted
to talk today. Jim made a very good point about per capita. I
wasn't going to get into that. I mean even on the bare facts
they are talking 4900 square feet homes out there. I don't
want the people- 4900 square feet is a big home, folks. That
is 70 by 70 if my math is correct. My home isn't 70 by 70.
Further what we are doing talking about this new proposal when
you have a proposal here that you are suppose to vote up or
downy
Horow/ We are not voting on it this evening. This evening we are
taking the p.h. on. That is okay.
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Sueppel/ Eventually you are suppose to vote
Horow/ Right. Are there any questions for Bill Sueppel?
Baker/ I just wanted to point out that indeed I we have all I think
said that we were going to direct this back to P/Z- Decide
whether we are going to take it back to P/Z but P/Z will have
to talk about this new proposal before it comes back to us to
evaluate. We are not evaluating this proposal tonight.
Kubby/ Butwhere that came from though was a discussion last night
about needing six votes to make this happen and part of the
conversation was what would it take to make this happen with
six votes. And one of the things was that Ernie said it has
got to meet that Comp Plan which is a very legitimate
statement to make and what that means is going down to 32
units and that is where it is coming from.
Sueppel/ Thank you.
Throg/ I guess I would like to make a brief observation in response
to some of what Bill said. And that is I don't think I have
met a more decent and honorable man than Bob Burns and there
is no way on earth that he is trying to manipulate the people
in this audience or the neighbors up there by starting off
with 66 in order to weasel down to some lower number. He is a
very decent and honorable person and trying to do what is
right.
Sueppel/ I wasn't indicating that he wasn't that but if that is
what happened tonight, that is what we have got. The proposal
was 66. It was proposed at 41 and tonight after everything
talked about the 41 we suddenly come up with the 32.
Throg/ It often happens because the initial figure proves to be
totally unacceptable for enough people to make it not be
viable.
sueppel/ So you start high and hope you can settle low?
Lehman/ I don't really think- There is no 32 proposal. He has drawn
something which he may present to the P/Z Commission. But I
think this is informational tonight because of last night's
discussion but we are not considering a 32 unit.
Sueppel/ Thank you.
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Burns/ To answer Mr. Lehman's question. The site plan I showed you
tonight, the 32 units, we came up with the design today in our
office. The sketches are up in my office if you would like to
go see them. With respect to the Assessor's data I took the
information off of the cards and would be glad to correct them
if they are wrong.
Horow/ Thank you. Would anyone else care to address council on this
issue?
Joanne Schoenwald/ 1149 Oakes Drive. And what I want to say really
addresses not only the 41 units but the 32 that he just
showed. I know that the city council and other city council's
across the country are under great pressure to find affordable
housing in their communities. But before you do something here
that is irreversible please remember that the P/Z Commission
has heard all of the particulars and all of the details and in
spite of their desire to approve low income affordable
housing, decided unanimously that this was not the right
location. Now we would need to integrate these families into
our neighborhood and because their children would be going to
school with our children and so fourth and that would be a
very difficult thing to do if there are in 8-plexes and we are
in s.f. dwellings. Now, I have delivered meals to the elderly
for a number of years all over Iowa City and I have seen in
neighborhoods where low income dwellings are interspersed, low
income s.f. dwellings are interspersed with more expensive
homes. I have seen neighbors looking out for each other and
showing concern if a family needs help. For those less
fortunate who live in high density apartments and by high
density it could be 8-plexes, it is a very different story.
The neighbors near by are rarely aware that these people
exist. If they need help they call for volunteers or to city
agencies. We are a group of concerned neighbors in a city that
has prided itself on helping less fortunate individuals. but
I would just ask the council this do you think that this
approach will work any better in the northeast side of Iowa
City than it has in other parts of the country?
Horow/ Is there anyone else that cares to address council?
Lyone Fein/ I apologize for speaking but I feel really compelled to
speak on behalf of people who aren't here tonight and whose
voices haven't been heard and that is the people who would
potentially live in- My name is Lyone Fein and I live in an
apartment in d.t. area and I can't afford a s.f. place with a
big lawn and trees on it and I feel like I have to speak for
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the other people who also can't afford that. I feel like
tonight I have heard these people say, although I hate talking
like that- Tonight I have heard the people in this
neighborhood who are concerned about this development say that
they are for affordable housing but I think what they are
saying is that they are for it as long as it is not in their
neighborhood. They are concerned about children playing in
parking lots but if you can't afford to buy a s.f. dwelling in
your neighborhood then people like myself who have to live in
d.t. while our children can just play on Burlington Street or
something like that. I think that these are some of the things
that are intimated by the things that were said tonight and I
just found myself getting more and more upset by it. I think
people who can't afford s.f. houses have a right to live in
places where there is grass and trees. Where they are not
constantly hearing fire and police sirens going by at all
times of the night. Where they are not being woken up in the
middle of the night by drunken college students walking past
and they have to put their children to sleep again at that,
you know, 2:00 in the morning. I don't know. I guess that is
all I have to say.
Throg/ Thanks, Lyone.
Horow/ All right, I would ask if there is anyone who wishes to
address council about any other aspect of this that has not
already been discussed. Otherwise we will be closing the p.h.
Kubby/ Shouldn't we continue the p.h?
Horow/ I think this is at the point where we can close it and take
the comments and I would ask council to refer this back to
P/Z.
Karr/ Could we accept correspondence?
Horow/ Moved by Kubby, seconded by Baker, to accept correspondence.
Any discussion? There is a motion on the floor about
correspondence acceptance. All those in favor signify by
saying aye (ayes).
Kubby/ Linda, if we refer this back to P/Z asking them to look at
a lower density project, is that considered a significant
change going from 41 to 31 that we need to re-advertise a p.h?
Woito/ Yes. Basically you will be starting over. So you can either
close the p.h. and have a motion to refer it back. You close
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the p.h. and have a vote.
Horow/ Declare the p.h. closed. The Chair would entertain a motion
to refer the subject under discussion right now back to P/Z
Commission with the intent to investigate decrease in density
as well as discussed last evening the provision in some way of
controlling development on the southerly three acres. This is
the discussion that we had last evening.
Moved by Kubby, seconded by Baker. Discussion.
Kubby/ I think it is important to explain why the second item and
that was a concern that Ernie brought to the table to say if
the land south of where this development is proposed is going
to be rezoned we need to have some controls over the zoning
and one way to have more control over the what actually
happens in the development even down to where trees are is to
have it also be OPDH-8 and that way we have to go through a
public process, it has to come through council and they is
recourse for public that if what actually gets developed is
not what is on that OPDH plan our H.I.S. has some power to
rectify that. So it is the (can't hear) for the neighborhood.
Lehman/ Yeah, I am concerned about that because it would be
possible to put at the 41 level a 70 units on that corner. I
think that is absolutely inappropriate. I did say last night
that I am not opposed to referring this back to P/Z but I
don't want that to be interpreted that I will vote in favor of
a lesser density. I am willing to look at it. I think there is
a lot of things about this plan that staff did that we asked
them to do. We asked them to find different locations around
town. They did that. There are a lot of things about it that
are good. There are things about it that aren't so good. I
feel kind of sorry for staff. All of the work that has been
done basically on our direction and now we have a problem
about that. but,just because it goes back to P/Z I don't want
that to be interpreted that I will favor a lesser density.
Horow/ But you are not willing to say no at this point?
Lehman/ I am willing to look at it.
Pigott/ But that is frustrating in a way. I feel frustrated by that
because what could happen is we continue a process which I
don't know what your likelihood is, Ernie, But if we continue
a process, the neighbors are going to come down again. They
are going to be put through agony of fighting something that
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I fear them saying they are not in favor of even at a lower
density. That is going to be another 6-1 majority we are
looking at. Mr. Burns is going to be put through a process
which, you know, it may be something that he is not going to
enjoy and delays him from looking at other property. I am in
favor of sending it back to P/Z. I just want to state that.
But I also think that I don't want to waste the staff time or
the neighbors time or Mr. Burn's time if what is going to
happen and I know you are saying you can't guarantee one way
or the other that we come at the end.
Horow/ And the way to do that is to defeat the referral back to P/Z
and take the vote on whether or not there is an extraordinary
majority for this this evening.
Woito/ It will have to be the following meeting.
Throg/ Sue, I would think it is not a good idea to refer this to
P/Z if in fact we could get a super-majority. I think we
should have a super-majority and I want to explain why because
it is clear we are not going to have it. I want to explain
why. It seems two main questions come to mind as I think about
this particular proposal. One is do we want to insure safety
and affordable housing is provided for our lower income
neighbORS. ~nd secondly, if so, then where shall that housing
be located. Some argue that the people of the community acting
through their government have no housing responsibility
towards their low income counterparts and they say we ought to
kind of just leave this to the market. Well, the record is
clear that the market is not going to provide the kind of
housing that is needed unless it is provided with incentives.
Without governmental action, therefore, lower income people
will either be left homeless or else forced to find housing in
towns outside of Iowa City. And I believe that just as the
government should help people own s.f. homes by permitting
income tax deductions for home mortgages. So, too, should the
people of the community help the low income neighbors have
access to housing they can afford. so how to do that. Once
approach which Mary Losch rightly notes has not worked well
and has been turned away from is to build concentrated ghettos
of high rise apartments populated by very low income people.
Bad idea. People are moving away from that. Robert homes
in Chicago is a good example. A second approach is to disperse
lower income families throughout the community. Either by
providing rental subsidies or by providing people or by
letting people live in scattered site s.f. housing owned by
the local government. This approach has proven more effective
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than the first by often encounters opposition from wealthier
communities that don't want lower income people living near
them. Of course we could let those families just wonder the
streets looking for a place to live. Saratoga Springs, in my
judgement, is clearly not a concentrated ghetto of low income
people living in high rise apartments. Clearly not. It is only
41 units. About ten units per acre rather than the 1000 or
more units typically found in what we call the projects. Very
different. It is also clearly not an instance of concentrated
lower income citizens in one area. It is only 41 families out
of about 2000 families in the community that need affordable
housing. Several months ago we rightly chose not to continue
concentrating lower income families in the southeast part of
town. If not in the southeast part of town, then where? I
think this particular location is very well suited for
development of this type. I also remember a moment when my
second son was born. I lived in a 48 unit apartment complex in
Los Angeles, right. And that morning my wife awoke and said oh
my gosh, I am bleeding and you women know what I am talking
about when she said that. She was nine months pregnant and we
were terrified. We thought this child was dead inside her. So
I ran down the hallway, not the hallway. I ran down the garden
pathway to the next apartment unit over and got my friend, Dr.
Tony, that is his first name, Tony, and said help, help, help,
you know, Mary is bleeding. He came down and helped us work
through that and turned out I now have this wonderful 14 year
old son. This doesn't strike me as the kind of place where,
you know, there is (can't hear) where nobody knows each other
just because they are low income people and we were low income
people at the time and just because we lived in an apartment
unit, it wasn't a bad place to live. So, what I want to say is
from my own experience and from my heart I think it is just
great for some people to live in multi-family units and this
is a good location for it. Thanks.
Horow/ Does anyone else care to address-
Kubby/ Jim, you had said kind of at the beginning that you didn't
think it was good to refer it back to P/Z. I am still unclear
why.
Throg/ Well, I mean I think we should vote and have- I think all of
us should support it. I am trying to encourage all of us to
support it but that is not going to happen so when-It ought to
go back to P/Z and things will happen the way they are going
to happen.
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Horow/ But from my point of view, by referring it back to P/Z we
are really only delaying a decision to be made.
Kubby/ Ernie at this point can't say no.
Baker/ I would rather delay the decision than have a decision I
disagree with which is the way it looks right now. Okay, I
want to get clear what we are asking P/Z to look at because
there were other issues raised here tonight and if it was
density and control of the undeveloped portion of this total
area. Are we saying once we get those resolved comfortably the
other issues fall into place.
Horow/ I guess I have faith enough in P/Z that when they take this
issue they look at all the aspects of ito They are looking at
land use and land use certainly, to me, brings in many of the
issues that were raised here.
Throg/ But it doesn't have anything to say about the income status
of the people who might be living there.
Kubby/ Bring up a traffic issue that Larry might be getting at.
Baker/ What I am trying to get at is that we can reach some
resolution because we have narrowed down the point of
disagreement where we can't agree. At least six people can't
agree. And if we can get those issues resolved - I mean we
can't say right now it is going to pass with 6 votes in the
future. But I am trying to figure out if something is going to
pop up.
Horow/ That is interesting because for me I would like to ask CCN
to address the issue that there will be no, to our
understanding as of lat evening when the neighborhood center
board has not had the ability to have a housed program and
staff there for the low income families. We have done this in
the Broadway Apartments and the Pheasant Ridge.
Kubby/ Those are many more units.
Horow/ We are talking- We went from mixed units. Do you remember
last night, my concern was that this project went from 66
units of a mixed nature, of mixed incomes, down to a
concentrated 41 of just low income and that to me is a very
real problem based on the various boards and commissions that
I sit on and listen to the problems that come out of that.
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Kubby/ Not all people who are 50% median income are on welfare or
have fragile situations in their households.
Horow/ You still can have enough of a problem presented that the
programs that we have at the neighborhood centers are able to
alleviate. This remains a problem for me. I would ask CCN to
address this issue.
Murray/ I realize that this is a problem for you and I will be
happy to bring this up at our meeting next week and I will
notify you and have you sit down to talk with you about what
CCN decides on this issue.
Baker/ (Can't hear) because of the financing issue as well.
Kubby/ That is their purview. Not really services.
Council/ (All talking).
Horow/ Wait a minute, Karin-
Franklin/ In terms of the Housing Commission and CCN meeting that
is scheduled for next week, those are looking at the 41 unit
project. Until we have a project they can't do their
evaluation of the specific project. So I think in terms of
those meetings next week, we will have to reconsider them. If
this is going to go back to the P/Z Commission, if that is
your decision tonight, then we will reschedule those meetings
to look at the specific project.
Horow/ I think your point is well taken and a referral back to P/Z
is what we had the p.h. on. That of the 41 units. There is no
proposal into P/Z for 32.
Kubby/ But how this came about is the question targeted to people
who were saying this is not acceptable. To say what would it
take to make this acceptable and your answer was basically you
can't fix this. I can't support this which (can't hear). And
Ernie said these are a couple of things that would make me not
say no but I need to think about it and so really Larry's
question is really to Ernie saying are there any other issues
because now is the time to speak.
Lehman/ When does Naomi get back?
Kubby/ Ernie, it is you.
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Lehman/ I am just saying that if Naomi has a strong feeling against
this there is no point in going any further.
Kubby/ But we don't know that so we need to move ahead with the
information that is available.
Horow/ She doesn't get back until the 8th of August.
Kubby/ A week.
Horow/ There is a motion on the floor to refer this back to P/Z.
Kubby/ I guess I just want to hear Ernie say there aren't other
issues or that-
Lehman/ Those are the two that concern me the most.
Throg/ Is one of the two the point about neighborhood
(can't hear)?
centers
Lehman/ No, density and control of the adjacent property.
Kubby/ That helps me know that we are being clear as we can be at
the moment.
Horow/ Okay, there is a motion on the floor. All those in favor of
referral back to P/Z please indicate by saying aye (ayes).
Opposed (aye-Horow). Back to P/Z, 5-1, with Horow voting no.
Kubby/ I also want to thank Larry for his note to us yesterday
saying-For me the message from Larry was if we are going to be
serious about helping-providing affordable housing ourselves
through zoning, through incentives, through direct subsidies,
we need to get it together here to know what is acceptable to
a majority and maybe a majority so that we can help facilitate
the lion-profits and for-profits coming together and whatever
kinds of entities happen. I know that there are some people
from the neighborhood who are talking about getting involved
in this issue as a result of these discussions saying how can
we get involved in these affordable housing which I think is
very commendable in the neighborhood. To say our conscience
has been raised, that this is an issue, we want to get
involved in helping provide some solutions for the community.
Horow/ I would say the other neighborhoods throughout the city
should equally get involved in this. It has distressed me that
at p.h.s that we have had, both for the CHAs and STEPS, those
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people who have been there in full have been the people who
are in need. Not the people in whose neighborhoods they might
fill up. And I think this is something that the city of Iowa
City really is going to have to take seriously. Either you do
or you don't and you elect people who think your way or not.
It is a very frustrating situation.
Kubby/ I appreciate your memo to us and think we should act on what
Larry suggested.
Horow/ Thank you very much.
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NO. $g.
Consider a resolution to annex approximately 103.86
acres, which includes the Highway 218/Highway 1
interchange and property located in the southwest
quadrant of the interchange. (ANN95-0001)
Horow/ Moved by Lehman, seconded by Baker. Discussion.
Kubby/ I have a few questions about Kitty Lee Road and it is on a
letter from Regina Alatalo. Anyway, Regina wrote us a letter
and I know that we have heard from the Board of Supervisors
about Seeley Road in the past and after annexation will the
intersection of Kitty Lee Road and Highway 1 be in the
jurisdiction of the county or the city?
Franklin/ It will continue to be in the jurisdiction of the county.
This annexation has nothing to do with Kitty Lee Road.
Kubby/ I am sorry to ask the question. It is the appropriate time.
Franklin/ No, I think what she was referring to was the traffic on
Highway 1 and indicating there was a problem now that she felt
with too much traffic on Highway 1. It was addressing the
intersection of Kitty Lee Road and Highway 1 and traffic
coming out of Kitty Lee Road onto Highway 1.
Kubby/ Right. Right.
Franklin/ But I think what she was concerned about was that the
annexation for Winebrenner's was going to increase the traffic
on Highway 1.
Kubby/ Right but my question-To me the issue is traffic flows down
on Highway i to turn onto Kitty Lee Road and that when there
are businesses near this area that as the traffic flows down
to get into this business near the commercial area that that
causes traffic problems. So there may need to be some turning
lanes to get into the area. That is kind of a deduction I am
making-
Franklin/ Into the Winebrenner's area?
Kubby/ Right. What issues do we need to think about in terms of
safe turn on into this commercial area once it is annexed?
Franklin/ Okay because the Kitty Lee Road is a residential area.
Kubby/ Okay. Let me start over. How far away is Kitty Lee Road, the
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turn off from Highway 1 from the interchange?
Franklin/ I don't know that precisely. Kitty Lee road is west of
Naples I believe. There may at some point as this area
develops on both sides of Naples Avenue, there may be a need
at some future time for either right turn lane or left turn
lane. But this would be considerably in the future.
Kubby/ For this commercial area having four or five car
dealerships, P/Z didn't think that we needed to do anything
with traffic as part of the conditional rezoning to make sure
that traffic could flow down and safely get in ?
Franklin/ No, there was never a question of the capacity of Highway
1 at all.
Horow/ Any other issues?
Kubby/ I guess I should have asked-
Throg/ Karin, I understand that we have site plan review authority
over this particular annexation. Is that right?
Franklin/ Yes.
Throg/ What does that consist of and can you give us and the
audience some sense of what authority we have and what kind of
factors we would look at in a site plan? I guess I want to
urge us to be pretty aggressive in what we look for.
Franklin/ When the building permit comes in for whatever they wish
to develop on the property, presumably they will have some
office and display area, auto repair, the things that normally
go with car dealerships. There will be a site plan submitted
which will be reviewed by H.I.S. and Engineering and Planning
and we will look at the layout of this site, the traffic
circulation on the site, access to it,screening, lighting.
Lighting may be of particular concern because the proximity of
the airport. But we also look at that very closely with auto
dealerships, too. We will be looking somewhat at the building
but not at design for the building. Primarily circulation on
the site, screening and lighting and the usual zoning
requirements of setback type (can't hear).
Throg/ So, I guess I would like to urge you and council and the
owners to think in terms of a contribution to the city. Not
just in terms of economically but in terms of providing an
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attractive and appealing part of
I am sure the owners have that
like to (can't hear). Thank you.
an entryway to the
in mind anyhow. But
city and
I would
Horow/ Thank you. Any more questions?
Pigott/ Without annexation, the county would-this is going in under
the county's jurisdiction. Do they have the same sort of site
plan review in the county.
Franklin/ No. You have to get a building permit but there is not
inspections afterwards and they did not have site plan review
as we know it. They have a planned commercial zone. However
that is not what was being pursued with the county as far as
the zoning was concerned. The review would not be of the type
that we would give it.
Horow/ Any other issues? Roll call-(yes).
Karr/ Madam Mayor, could we except correspondence on this one also?
Horow/ Moved by Kubby, seconded by Lehman. Any alscusslon. All
those in favor signify by saying aye (ayes).
The Mayor would like to take the prerogative of moving the
agenda over to Item #15 at this late hour-
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Regular Council Meeting
August 1. 1995
Page 9
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Consider an ordinance amending the Zoning Ordinance by
amending the use regulations of an approximate 103.86
acres, which includes the Highway 218/Highway I inter-
change and property located in the southwest quadrant of the
interchange from County RS, Suburban Residential. to C1-1,
Intensive Commercial. (REZ95-0011) (First consideration)
Comment: At its June 1 §, meeting, by a vote of 6-0, the
Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of
this rezoning. This recommendation is consistent with the
staff recom .m. endation contained in the staff report dated June /~o,o~
15. No pubhc comments were received at the J~ly 18 public
hear,ng on his item. ?t.~/~,'.~-~l :
Consider an ~rdinance amending the Zoning Ordinance by
amending the use regulations of an approximate 0.82 acre
tract of land. the north portion of Lot 4. Highlander First
Addition. which is located on Northgate Drive from RDP,
Research Development Park, to CO-1. Commercial Office.
(REZ95-0008) (First consideration)
Comment: At its June 15, meeting, by a vote of 6-0, the
Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of
the requested Northgate Drive rezoning. This recommendation
is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in a
staff memorandum dated June 15. The applicant has request-
ed expedited consideration of this item. No public comments
were received at the July 18 public hearing.
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ITEM NO. 5i.
Consider an ordinance amending the Zoning Ordinance
by amending the use regulations of an approximate
0.82 acre tract of land, the north portion of Lot
4, Highlander First Addition, which is located on
Northgate Drive from RDP, Research Development
Park, to CO-i, Commercial Office. (REZ95-0008)
(First consideration)
Horow/ Moved by Kubby, seconded by Pigott, first consideration.
Any comments? Roll call- (yes). First consideration. Next
meeting if council wishes to consider the expedited
consideration, we will take it up at that point.
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Consider an ordinance amending the conditional zoning agree-
ment for Lots 4-17, Highlander First Addition, revising the
development standard pertaining to rooflines and parapet
walls. (REZ95-0008) (First consideration)
Comment: At its June 15, meeting, by a vote of 6-(~, the
Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of
revising the development standards for Northgate Corporate
Park by repealing Section 10.30.3 which required flat rooflines
and replacing it with language that supports consistency, but
does not specify a required design for rooflines and parapet
walls throughout the corporate park. This recommendation is
consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the
staff memorandum dated June 15, No public comments were
received at the July 18 public hearing on his item.
Action:
Consider an ordinance vacating a 20-foot wide alley located
east of Gilbert Court and immediately north of Lot 4 of Block
3, Lyon's Addition. (VAC95-0002) (First consideration) )'~4~¢_.~
Comment: At its June 15, meeting, by a vote of 5-(~, the
Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of
the requested alley vacation, subject to the retention of a five-
foot easement along the north edge of the subject alle~ for
storm sewer and ditch maintenance, and subject to the
retention of easements for any utility that may exist within
this right-of-way. This recommendation is consistent with the
staff recommendation set forth in the June 15 staff report.
No utilities exist within the right-of-way, so no easements are
needed. No public comments were received at the July 18
public hearing on his item.
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ITEM NO. $j.
Consider an ordinance amending the conditional
zoning agreement for Lots 4-17, Highlander First
Addition, revising the development standard
pertaining to rooflines and parapet walls. (REZ95-
0008) (First consideration)
Horow/ Moved by Kubby, seconded by Throg.
Throg/ I think we need flat roof lines.
Horow/ Comments have to do with flat roof lines. After all the time
we spent putting together the standards for this Northgate
Corporate Park, I tend to agree with you.
Kubby/ But this doesn't negate the need for compatibility among our
buildings. It just says your options are greater than just
flat roof lines. So I don't think that that spirit has been
negated at all. It provides more flexibility.
Horow/ Any other real discussion?
Kubby/ That was real for me.
Horow/ Roll call- (yes). First consideration is adopted, 6-0.
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Consider an ordinance amending City Code Title 14, Chapter
6, entitled "Zoning," Article S, entitled "Performance Stan-
dards," Sections 108 and 10C, concerning the location of
underground storage tanks. (First consideration)
Comment: At its June 15, meeting, by a vote of 5-0, the
Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of
amending Section 14-6S-10B by repealing all references to
underground storage tanks, and amending Section 14-6S-10C
by including all underground flammable and combustible liquid
storage tanks, not just those associated with filling stations
under the governance of the Iowa City Uniform Fire 'Code,
except the minimum distance between underground bulk
storage tanks and any residential zone boundary shall be at
least ten feet. This recommendation is consistent with the
staff recommendation contained in the staff memorandum
dated June 15. No public comments were received at the
July 18 public hearing on his item.
A c t ion: ~-~,~.~.,)/'/~.~~2
Consider a resolution approving a Chapter 28E agreement
between the City of Iowa City and the City of Hills establish-
ing a boundary governing extraterritorial review authority and
annexations,
Comment: At its July 20 meeting, by a vote of 7-0, the
Planning .and Zoning Commission recommended approval of
this agreement. The Commission's recommendation is
consistent with the staff recommendation,
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NO. Sin.
Consider a resolution approving a Chapter 28E
agreement between the City of Iowa City and the
City of Hills establishing a boundary governing
extraterritorial review authority and annexations.
Horow/ Moved by Pigott, seconded by Throg.
this-It would be helpful if staff,
explains what this is all about.
Discussion. I think at
Ms. Franklin, kind of
Franklin/ This pertains to the city's ability to review
subdivisions in a two mile territorial area. Hills and Iowa
city both have the authority to review subdivisions within two
miles of their boundaries and these areas overlap. We are
mutually agreeing with Hills that we will review subdivisions
north of the line. They will review subdivisions south of the
line so that we don't (can't hear).
Horow/ Thank you very much. Any questions? Roll call-(yes). Thanks.
Resolution is adopted.
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Page 12
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Consider a resolution vacating Fox Hollow Subdivision, a 31-
lot, 62.21 acre subdivision located north of Herbert Hoover
Highway and west of Taft Avenue, (VAC95-0003)
Comment: At its June 15 meeting, by a vote of 5-O, the
Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of
vacating the Fox Hollow Subdivision, This recommendation
is consistent with the staff recommendation contained in the
staff report dated June 15, No pufilic comments were
received at the July 18 public hearing on his item.
Consider a resolution approving the final plat of Boyrum
Subdiv. ision, Part 4-, a 3-lot, 11.67 acre commercial subdivi-
sion located south of Highway 6 between Boyrum Street and
Waterfront Drive. ~
Comment: At its July'6 meeting, by a vote of 6-0, the
Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of
the final plat of Boyrum Subdivision, subject to approval of
legal. papers by the City Attorney's Office and construction
plans by the Public Works Department prior to City Council
consideration of the plat. The leg'al papers and the construc-
tion plans have been approved, The Commission's recommen-
dation is consistent with the staff recommendation contained
in the staff report dated July 6.
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August 1, 1995
Page 13
ITEM NO. 6 -
Consider a resolution approving the final plat of Longfellow
Manor, a 7.64 acre, 20 lot, residential subdivision located on
the south side of the 1300 block of Sheridan Avenue. (60-
day limitation period: waived.) (SUB94-0012)
Comment: At its September ~, 1994, meeting, by a vote of
6-0, the Planning & Zoning Commission recommended
approval of the final plat of Longfellow Manor, subject to 1)
approval of the legal papers by the City Attorney;s office prior
to Council consideration of the final plat, 2) placement of a
note on the final plat and incorporation of language into the
subdivider's agreement permitting use of the private drive for
maintenance vehicles, pedestrians and bicyclists, and 3)
appropriate grading and seeding of Outlot 1 prior to City
acceptance of the public open space. The Commission's
recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation
contained in the staff report dated September 1, 1994. On
October 11, 1994, the Council deferred this item indefinitely.
The plat could not be approved at that time because a County
Treasurer's certificate had not been submitted. A County
Treasureds certificate has now been submitted and the final
plat is in order for approval.
PUBLIC HEARING ON PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS, FORM OFCONTRACT,
AND ESTIMATE OF COST FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE IOWA CITY
LANDFILL LEACHATE LIFT STATION CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
Comment: This project will provide a new lift station with improved
capacity to pump leachate from the landfill to the wastewater treatment
plant to meet all state and federal regulations. The Engineer's construc-
tion cost estimate is t~545,600. Funding for this project will be provided
by landfill ~evenues.
Action:
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consider a resolution approving the final plat of
Longfellow Manor, a 7.64 acre, 20 lot, residential
subdivision located on the south side of the 1300
block of Sheridan Avenue. (60-day limitation
period: waived.) (SUB94-0012)
Horow/ This is a resolution approving Longfellow Manor. However,
the legal papers are not in order and the applicant has asked
to defer to August 15.
Moved by Kubby, seconded by Lehman. Discussion. All those in
favor signify by saying aye (ayes). Wow.
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ITEM NO. 6 -
PUBLIC HEARING ON PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS, FORM OF
CONTP, ACT~ AND ESTI~TE OF COST FOR CONSTRUCTION OF
THE IOWA CITY LANDFILL LEACHATE LIFT STATION
CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
Horow/ Declare the p.h. open. Declare the p.h. closed.
Kubby/ We were talking about one little part of our landfill
operation. Doing an upgrade on it is $500,000. It just
emphasizes how costly waste is.
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ITEM NO, 7 -
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ITEM NO. 8 -
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS, ·
FORM OF CONTRACT, AND ESTIMATE OF COST FOR CONSTRUCTION
OF THE IOWA CITY LANDFILL LEACHATE LIFT STATION CONSTRUC-
TION PROJECT, ESTABLISHING AMOUNT OF BID SECURITY TO
ACCOMPANY EACH BID, DIRECTING CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH
ADVERTISEMENT FOR BIDS, AND FIXING TIME AND PLACE FOR
RECEIPT OF BIDS AT 10:30 A.M., AUGUST 22, 1995.
Comment: See comment above.
Action: :~'~.~.// ~)~/~ ~'-~J'/ ~
PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CONVEYANCE OF CITY-OWNED PROPERTY
AT 1109 FIFTH AVENUE,
Comment: This is a continuation of the Public Hearing on July 18,
1995. Staff has selected eligible low to moderate income buyers for the
property, subject to approval by a local lending institution. The property
will be sold at the appraised value of 985,000 and the City will hold a
second mortgage to maintain affordability. A resale agreement will
ensure that this home will remain affordable to a low to moderate
income household for fifteen years.
Action: .~'~ ~
ITEM NO. 9 -
ITEM NO. 10 -
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CONVEYANCE OF CITY-
OWNED PROPERTY AT 1109 FIFTH AVENUE TO BRADLEY AND
ELIZABETH JOHNSON.
Comment: See Item above.
Action=
Previously announced vacancies.
(1) Housing and Community Development Commission:
(a)
Three vacancies for one-year terms ending
September 1, 1996.
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ITEM NO. 8 - PUBLIC HF2~RING ON THE CONVEYANCE OF CITY-OWNED
PROPERTY AT 1109 FIFTH AVENUE.
Horow/ P.h. is now in session. Anyone wish to address council on
this?
Lyone Fein/ Can I just ask- My name is Lyone Fein, thanks for
reminding me of that. I just wanted to ask if somebody could
define what low and moderate income levels. Numbers-
Horow/ Right, there are numbers and we throw them around from time
to time. Karin, do you have them at the tip of your tongue?
Franklin/ Low to moderate income is defined by the median income
for a particular geographical area. Low to moderate is 80% of
median income or less and that figure of the income level
varies with the number of people in the family. I don't have
those income levels but I can get them for you.
Throg/ There is a formal definition for a particular program.
Franklin/ They are formal definitions that are set by the
Department of Housing and Urban Development.
Horow/ (Can't hear). Any other comments? Okay. Close the p.h.
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ITEM NO. 9 -
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CONVEYANCE OF
CITY-OWNED PROPERTY AT 1109 FIFTH AVENUE TO BBADLEY
AND ELISABETH JOHNSON.
Horow/ Moved by Kubby, seconded by Pigott. Any discussion?
Kubby/ You know, earlier there was lots of discussion about
affordable housing and we talk about strategies. We need to
have lots of different strategies for providing different
kinds of housing. Having apartment complexes in a neighborhood
is one strategy that we have not been successful. We might be
successful in the future in doing. This is another strategy
where there are infill lots that we can purchase. The modular
home that was put together in the factory, taken to the site
and put together. Ann Bovbjerg is here as part of the crew
tonight and she did a video about it and I am not sure where
that video will be available. Probably Public Library or
Public Access-Government channel if anybody wants to see that.
But this is another strategy to providing affordable housing
within currently developed neighborhoods.
Pigott/ And it is good because it helps scatter affordability with
other areas.
Horow/ You know, it is interesting though, the discussion that Doug
Russell had this evening about the integrity of the
neighborhood, appropriateness. This house fits into that
neighborhood beautifully. They have done a very very good job
on it. It is well worth looking at. Roll call-(yes).
Resolution is adopted.
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ITEM NO. 11 -
(b)
Three vacancies for two-year terms ending
September 1, 1997,
(c)
Three vacancies for three-year tsrms ending
September 1, 1998.
These appointments will be made at the August 29, 1995,
meeting of th~ City Council.
CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS.
Consider an appointment to the Mayor's Youth Employment
Board for a three-year term ending August 4, 1998.
Comment: No applications have been received for this
vacancy, Item No. 20 on this agenda rescinds the two
resolutions esta. blishing the MYEP and approving their bylaws,
If Council approves this resolution, there is no further action
required for this appointment,
Action: ~--~_~_,~~
ITEM NO. 12 - CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION.
ITEM NO. 13 -
REPORT ON ITEMS FROM THE CiTY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY.
a. City Manager.
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ITEM NOo 11 - CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS.
Consider an appointment to the Mayor's Youth Employment
Board for a three-year term ending August 4, 1998.
Horow/ This item has been rescinded because we will be dealing with
Item #20. Essentially rescinding the establishment of the
Mayor's Youth Employment Program and approving their by-laws.
We do not need any further action on this appointment, of
course, we haven't rescinded it.
Karr/ You can always come back to it if you don't.
Horow/ Okay.
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ITEM NO. 12 - CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION.
Kubby/ I wondered if people had a chance to look at some of the
animal issues in the code and if people wanted to pass any of
those, any or all of them, onto the Animal Control Advisory
Committee.
Baker/ I apologize. I have not looked at that.
Kubby/ I will bring it up at our next informal.
Baker/ I will be ready.
Kubby/ Today was the first day that people in Iowa City and West
Branch could call each other without it being a toll call and
at 12:02 yesterday I received the first call with the new
system from some people in West Branch and we were live on
West Branch Public Access. So it was quite an honor. It will
be easier for people in West Branch and Iowa City to
communicate in an affordable manner. I also want to offer some
congratulations to an Iowa City resident, Jan Corderman, who
will probably no longer be an Iowa City resident but just a
visiting guest. She will become president of AFSCME, which is
the largest employees union in Iowa. She won that election by
a 3-1 vote. She is the first women president. It is very
exciting to have an Iowa City resident hold that. So,
congratulations.
Throg/ Well, Sue, I would like to mention two things. We have- The
city has prepared, a city staff, has prepared a draft Economic
Development Policy for the council to consider adopting and I
understand that it will be on our agenda, formal agenda, maybe
next meeting, the 15tho Maybe the meeting after that. I am not
sure about that. 15th or 29th almost certainly and I would
like to encourage anyone who is interested in our economic
development policy to request a copy of it, read it and be
prepared to come in and comment about it. The other thing I
would like to mention is during our discussion of Saratoga
Springs I referred to the complicated birth of my second son.
That occurred on July 26, 1981. So I would like to do my best
imitation of colleague Larry Baker and wish my wonderful son,
Paul, happy birthday.
Pigott/ Sue, we were discussing China and women's issues just a
little while ago and I wanted to express thanks to our
Congressman Jim Leach for something that he recently signed a
letter demanding that an American citizen, Harry Wu, we
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released from China and I was really happy that he did that.
Part of the reason that I gave him a call is that as a citizen
I am concerned that Americans be held against their will in
China and so I hope that this letter that is going to the
Chinese government and to the President of the United States
has some effect in negotiation for the release of Harry Wu.
Anyway, it is good that our Congressman pays attention to its
constituents and to welfare of American citizens abroad.
Kubby/ We have a whole list of things we will have you call him
about. You are pretty effective.
Horow/ Anything else, Bruno?
Baker/ Actually I got a call at 12:01 from West Branch. Some guy
claimed to be Herbert Hoover but I didn't believe it, so- I
have one serious thing first. Karen referred memo that I
passed around last night and again, I don't need to discuss it
but if there is indeed a sense that maybe we can do something
in the future, a formal discussion.
Kubby/ We have got to.
Pigott/ I agree.
Baker/ Again, no immediate-I don't think there is an urgency of
something out there that is coming to us after Saratoga but
(can't hear). Okay, I appreciate that. Now, Jim makes me feel-
I was going to say that a year ago I would have said I was the
only person on this council who was having fun. But I think
you people have come a long way. Even Karen, a little rigid,
but she is having a lot more fun it seems like. And the reason
I bring that up is because my daughter- No, I am having more
fun. Last night was extremely fun for me. You and I talked
about that. Something came to the attention of one of my close
family members and handed it over to me and said there is a
recent-One of our alternative newspapers had the Best of Iowa
City. We can't advertise for them. But it was not the Press
citizen.
Kubby/ It is not an alternative paper, it is our Iowa City-
Baker/ It is smart news and entertainment. I am sorry. So, when
they had the Best of Iowa City, I immediately looked for my
name in there and discovered that I was not voted Iowa City's
Best Politician and I called up my seven hard core supporters
and asked them what they were doing wrong in getting the word
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out on me and I made a promise to my daughter, my daughter
Jennifer, that I would be much better in the coming year and
will have a lot more competition for this honor next year. So,
Jenny, I am going to work in that. So-
Kubby/ You need to become more rigid in order to get that
designation.
Baker/ I have to be more flexible.
Kubby/ You ask 20 people who know me at various levels and rigid is
not a word that most people-
Baker/ Oh, I can think of 20 more.
Horow/ Okay, any other thing that you have, Mr. Baker?
Baker/ No, I am glad that we are all having a good time.
Horow/ Speaking of good times- Last week I had the pleasure of
being on the Freshman orientation Reception at the IMU and as
a parent of a new freshman at a different institution I can
tell you, Iowa City really does it up right. We had volunteers
greeting all the parents. The parents were dumbfounded that
the Mayor would be there, #1. But they were dumbfounded that
all the businessman and women and officials would be there. We
talked about the city, laughed and joked with them. They had
a good time and we fed them dinner and they really really
appreciate that. Some next time, anybody asks you to volunteer
for the Freshman Orientation Reception in the middle of the
summer, do it. It is a lot of fun. Speaking about fun, I would
also like to say Coralville, you pulled off a class act. That
was #1. Joanne Hora, , and Kelly Hayworth, you are good.
That was fun. Henry Herwig and I went around a little golf
course wagon at 11:00 PM. We were trying to create a scandal
but nobody really said-
Kubby/ $39,000 worth of beer in six hours was sold.
Horow/ Think of the property taxes that are going to needed to take
care of the people when they are alcoholics. Sorry about that.
Kubby/ Two beers is not an alcoholic.
Pigott/ I thought the Iowa City Police did a good job out there.
Horow/ Yeah, they did. They really did. It really was fantastic. I
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would like to read an article from our Human Rights Commission
that appeared in the Press Citizen this week and it is A
Reaction To Bigotry Is What Counts Most is the title of it.
(Reads article). This was sent in by the Iowa City Human
Rights Commission: Alison Ames Galstad, Patricia Harvey, Ann
Shires, Mel Dautremont, Ken Gatlin, Joan Jehle, Dorothy Paul,
Osha Gray Davidson, and Diane Martin. These are your
representatives on the HP Commission appointed by council. And
we appreciate their taking an immediate response.
Kubby/ Thank you for reading that and I think the reason-You had
asked our permission to read it tonight and I think the reason
I gave permission is because I think council concurs with
those sentiments and that we didn't need to write the same
letter but really thank the HR Commission for expressing those
views.
Horow/ That is all.
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b. City Attorney.
ITEM NO. 14 -
RECOMMENDATIONS OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
Consider recommendations of the Committee on Community
Needs:
(1)
That the bylaws for the new Housing and Community
Development Commission be approved. The Council
approved these bylaws at the July 18, 1995, meeting.
(2)
That the Council consider appointing all of the existing
members of the Committee on Community Needs and
the Housing Commission to the new Housing and
Community Development Commission. These ap-
pointments will be made at the August 29, 1995,
Council meeting.
Consider recommendations of the Committee on Community
Needs (CC.N) and the Housing Commission from their joint
meeting on June 14, 1995. These recommendations were
included in the Housing and Community Development Com-
mission bylaws which were approved at the July 18, 1995,
Council meeting.
(1)
That the name of the joint commission be the Housing
and Community Development Commission.
(2)
That the members of the joint commission be Iowa
City residents, consisting of nine members who would
be appointed for three-year staggering terms.
(3)
That the joint commission meet in the evening and
that the actual day and number of meetings per month
be left up to the commission once it is established.
(4) ·
That the joint commission form a committee or board
to make recommendations to Council regarding
proposed changes to the Housing Code,
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ITEM NO. 13 -
REPORT ON ITEMS FROM THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY
ATTORNEY.
City Attorney.
Horow/ Ms. Woito-
Woito/ I was in Madison this weekend and I was impressed with the
portion of their roads that were dedicated to bicycles and
buses. It was most impressive and I realize that it is a much
newer town than Iowa City.
Horow/ Thank you.
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ITEM NO. 14 - RECOMMENDATIONS OF BOARD8 AND COMMISSIONS.
Consider recommendations of the Committee on Community
Needs:
(1)
That the bylaws for the new Housing and Community
Development Commission be approved. The Council
approved these bylaws at the July 18, 1995,
meeting.
(2)
That the Council consider appointing all of the
existing members of the Committee on Community
Needs and the Housing Commission to the new Housing
and community Development Commission. These ap-
pointments will be made at the August 29, 1995,
Council meeting.
Consider recommendations of the Committee on community
Needs (CCN) and the Housing Commission from their joint
meeting on June 14, 1995. These recommendations were
included in the Housing and Community Development Com-
mission bylaws which were approved at the July 18, 1995,
Council meeting.
(1) That the name of the joint commission be the
Housing and Community Development Commission.
That the members of the joint commission be Iowa
City residents, consisting of nine members who
would be appointed for three-year staggering terms.
(3)
That the joint commission meet in the evening and
that the actual day and number of meetings per
month be left up to the commission once it is
established.
(4)
That the joint commission form a committee or board
to make recommendations to Council regarding
proposed changes to the Housing Code.
c. Consider recommendations of the Human Rights Commission:
(1) That the amended bylaws of the Iowa City Human
Rights Commission be approved.
(2) That the City Council endorse CEDAW (Convention On
Elimination of Discrimination Against Women).
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Horow/ Moved by Pigott, seconded by Throg. Discussion. The by-laws
for the new CCN or Housing commission and Community
Development Commission have currently been reviewed by the
Rules Committee and are going to council the next council
meeting.
Kubby/ (Can't hear).
Horow/ Any other discussion? All those in favor signify by saying
aye (ayes).
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ITEM NO. 15 -
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ITEM NO. 16 -
Consider recommendations of the Huenan Rights Commission:
(1)
That the amended bylaws of the Iowa City Human
Rights Commission be approved.
Comment: The Human Rights Commission has re-
viewed and revised its Bylaws. The Commission vote
was unanimous to approve these Bylaws and this vote
was reflected in the minutes of its June 26, 1995,
meeting which Council previously received. At its
July 24, 1995, meeting, the Commission voted
unanimously to recommend Council approval. This
request should be forwarded to the Rules Committee
for a recommendation.
(2)
That the City Council endorse CEDAW (Convention
On Elimination of Discrimination Against Women).
Comment: Representatives supporting C~DAW will
be contacting the City Council regarding this endorse-
ment. The Commission endorsement was reflected in
the minutes of its meeting of May 22, 1995, which
Council previously received.
CONSIDER A RESOLUTIDN SUPPORTING THE' RATIFr~ATION OR
ACCESSION BY THE UNITED STATES TO THE CONVENTION OF THE
ELIMINATION OF ALL FORMS OF DISCRIMINATION AGAINST WOMEN.
Comment: See recommendation of the Human Rights Commission
above.
Action: '
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE DESIGN OF TIlE TIME
AND TEMPERATURE SIGN LOCATED AT 118 S. DUBUQUE STREET.
Comment: At its July 17, 1995, meeting, the Design Review Commit-
tee, by a 6-1 vote (Quigley voting no), recommended that the City
Council approve the design of the time and temperature sign as
presented to the Committee. The Committee reviews the proposed sign
because the sign will project into City Plaza.
Action:
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ITEM NO. 15 -
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION SUPPORTINS THE RATIFICATION
OR ACCESSION BY THE UNITED STATES TO THE CONVENTION
OF THE ELIMINATION OF ALL FORM8 OF DISCRIMINATION
AGAINST WOMEN.
Horow/ This recommendation came from the Human Rights commission
which reviewed the Convention and Elimination of
Discrimination Against Women and endorsed it at their meeting
of May 22.
Moved by Kubby, seconded by Pigott. Any discussion?
Pigott/ Well, yeah, I think we should.
Horow/ Well, at this time, Dorothy, since you are intimately
involved in this whole thing, I would appreciate if you would
address this.
Dorothy Paul/ I live at 608 Larch Lane. I have lived in Iowa City
since 1953. I am also an Iowa City Human Rights Commissioner.
I have been for 6 years and I have been involved in revising
the Iowa City Ordinance. So I am very proud of the work of the
Iowa City Human Rights Commission and the City of Iowa City to
support human l:~ghts. I am here this evening to ask you to
endorse the U.N. Convention on the elimination of all forms of
discrimination against women which is more commonly know as
CEDAW. I want to briefly give you a little background. CEDAW
was adopted by the U.N. in 1979. It is the only document to
emerge from the U.N. Decade For Women. It carries legal
weight. Countries that ratify the convention undertake the
legal obligation to take all appropriate measures to improve
the status of women and to change customs and the law that
impedes women's advancement. CEDAW was signed by the U.S. and
submitted for ratification by President Carter in 1980. It has
languished in the Senate for 15 years. For the record, 140
countries, members of the U.N. and the Nation state members
now number 185, have consented to be bound by CEDAW. The U.S.
is one of the 44 countries that has not ratified this
Convention. I know all too well that we have laws on our books
in this community to protect human rights. But your
endorsement adds the weight of the international community to
our local laws and puts added weight on our government to
ratify this document. Your endorsement, I also want to
emphasize, that it does not have any legal implications to the
City of Iowa City beyond the laws we already have on our
books. This request is all really about consciousness raising
and education and confronting the apathy and indifference
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which I see is one of the biggest problems we face today. The
Iowa Legislature, in 1991, through the efforts of
Representative Minette Doderer, was the first state in the
U.S. to endorse CEDAW. Massachusetts, California, SOuth
Dakota, Connecticut, the lower House in Illinois, and New York
State have followed. 50 U.S. national organizations have
signed on from AARP, the American Bar Association, NOW, the
Sisters of Humility in Davenport Iowa, the Amnesty
International. I ask you this evening to become the first city
in the United States to endorse CEDAW. Ellen Dorsey would also
like to address you this evening. and I and we
have organized this campaign, have already received requests
from three other states, Massachusetts, California, and
Washington, D.C. who ant to use Iowa City as the national
model for the CEDAW state campaign. My request is based on the
precedence already established in iowa City to use
international law for a basis for community action. I was in
this room many years ago when the then Iowa City council and
then Mayor Mary Neuhauser said it is time to get off the dime
and the city council voted to make Iowa City a Nuclear Free
Zone. I am also proud of the fact that Iowa City has included
in our city ordinance the endorsement of the U.N. Convention
on all forms of discrimination, an action that followed a
precedence established by the city government in Clinton,
Grinnell, Ames, Iowa. I go to Beijing for the 4th World
Conference on Women two weeks from today where I shall
participate in a workshop on Women in the Heartland and that
is really us. Do we as Mary Neuhauser said, get off the dime
and make a commitment at our community level to CEDAW which
will become only the first step but the most important step to
formal implementation of the plan of action when we come home
and the real work begins. I would also like entered into the
record the fact that not only the Iowa City Human Rights
Commission endorsed CEDAW, 28 Iowa city community
organizations have endorsed the document, following the
request of Ellen Dorsey originally to the Iowa city Human
Rights Commission. I have brought with me copies of these
endorsements as well as a letter from President Clinton which
I received on November 30 who supports its prompt
ratification. So I will turn these over to the Clerk and thank
you.
Pigott/ Dorothy, could I ask one question? I have had a lot of
conversation recently about the 4th World Conference on Women,
There has been a lot of controversy about it because some
people are arguing that perhaps the U.S~ shouldn't attend and
I just wanted to ask you for clarification. The 4th World
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Conference on Women will discuss the issues surrounding women.
Having this resolution will not endorse or not endorse the
U.S. delegation going to the 4th World Conference on Women. It
is a separate thing in a sense from this although the issues
surrounding (can't hear).
Kubby/ Could you please explain why it is controversial?
Pigott/ Because, for one, there was an American citizen who has
been held, detained, by the Chinese in China recently, Harry
Wu, and there is a controversy about that as well as other
issues surrounding access to China and bringing certain
materials into China. But I just thought it was important to
distinguish between that, because of this controversy, and
this which is separate.
Ellen Dorsey/ (Can't hear). Chinese politics which is separate from
the 4th World Conference and needs to be kept separate.
Horow/ Thank you very much. This is not a public discussion. Ellen,
if you have something to say that is very very brief- You will
have to sign in and speak into the microphone.
Ellen Dorsey/ What I was wanting to address, just very briefly
though, the question that is being raised is essentially what
is the purpose of this for Iowa City to endorse CEDAW and doss
it have any enforcement weight to it. No, absolutely (can't
hear). I think the really important reason why we should
endorse CEDAW is that we are affirming the importance of an
international law. We are supporting global (can't hear) of
women's human rights and I also think we can establish a set
of standards for Iowa City that are part of a universal
package that can serve as a guide for legislation, for public
policy
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Ellen Dorsey/ And I think ultimately we are (can't hear).
Horow/ Thank you very much. Don't forget to sign in.
Kubby/ Sue, I would like to ask that that be stopped. I am assuming
that this will pass unanimously and if not, I would hope
people would talk about why they wouldn't for it. I don't
think that is an issue. But what I would ask is that besides
just sending this resolution to the people that we have
outlined that we are going to send it to that we have a cover
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letter stating how strongly we believe in the local voice
asking our national people to ratify this convention. And
citing how strong our Human Rights Ordinance is and how
important our Human Rights Commission in educating people
about our laws, about hate crimes, about the enforcement that
our local Commission helps provide is that is acceptable to
people to have a cover letter go with it to talk about the
local-
Horow/ Cover letters to who?
Kubby/ To the people we are sending this. The resolution outlines
who this is being sent to and that oover letter should be
attached. Not just the resolution that may not mean much in
the form that it is written.
Horow/ Okay. Any further discussion?
Throg/ Yeah, I would like to convey a very brief story about a
recent visit I made to Louisville, Kentucky when I was going
to see my father. I had recently obtained a t-shirt from a
friend of mind that says Women Hold Up Half of the World and
so I walked into a gas station wearing that t-shirt and there
was this heavy set young man sitting next to the counter and
he looked at me and said a woman activist shirt, huh. And I am
going to translate because his language was rather gruff. Bet
you pick up a lot of women with that shirt on. Well, I turned
rather cold to this fellow who I didn't know at all and just
stared at him coldly and said you think so, huh. The
atmosphere turned rather chilly. I just bring that up because
some of the language in our resolution is that we seek to
modify the patterns and conduct of men and women to eliminate
the prejudice customs and all the practices based on the idea
of inferiority or superiority of either sex. End of story.
Horow/ Okay, thank you very much. With that, roll call- (yes).
Resolution is adopted, 6-0, and I am sure Naomi would be proud
to go along with it if she were here. Thank you very much.
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ITEM NO. 16
CONSIDER ~ RRSOLUTION APPROVIN~ THE DESIGN OF THE
TIME~NDTEMPERATURE $I~N LOCATED ~T 118 S. DUBUQUE
STREET.
Horow/ Moved by Lehman, seconded by Kubby. Discussion.
Kubby/ Waste of time.
Woito/ It is or. The Code is or.
Throg/ Based on the documents in our packet I was a little bit
confused as to what the final design would be. Would the final
design be what the pictures that we saw in this packet?
Kubby/ Those are pictures of the actual sign.
Throg/ so it has Uncommon Grounds and then right next to it there
is a thermometer?
Woito/ Well, Laurie can tell you.
Horow/ You will have to come up to the microphone, please.
Laurie Tulchin/ The thermometer will fit inside the bracket. It
will be three feet tall, probably be the world's tallest
thermometer and I am having a guy build it and shipped. It is
going to be filled with spirit liquid, not mercury. So no
hazardous material and it will actually tell the temp.
Horow/ Any discussion? Any questions?
Baker/ Sue, this is not the most burning issue that will ever come
in front of this council and you know, my first thoughts on it
were no big deal but then I remembered I fought like crazy
trying to keep the Burger King projecting sign out of the
Plaza years ago and I think what I am going to do is take the
position that no projecting signs should be in the plaza.
Horow/ I appreciate your bringing that up because I feel that you
have hit the nail right on the head and that this application,
Laurie, is probably the best one could do to get around the
rules and regulations and push it to the limits and I haven't
appreciated that one and I will vote against it also.
Franklin/ Can I just remind the council that you are reviewing
design of the sign. This is a legal sign.
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Horow/ We know.
Baker/ I didn't mean to laugh but what is the distinction between
reviewing anything?
Franklin/ You are reviewing the design of it. That is the aesthetic
characteristics of it. You may recommend against it based on
design but it is a legal sign as a time and temperature sign
and the remedy for this would be for you to either change the
time and temperature designation in the Zoning Ordinance.
Baker/ Okay.
Horow/ Karin, I understand what you are saying and obviously it is
something that will be approved. But I have to say right now
that I have a lot of problems with this. I feel that you have
deliberately pushed the limits of this and you know you are
and this distresses me.
Council/ (All talking).
Woito/ Time out.
Horow/ That is my personal opinion.
Baker/ And my objections were based on the whole-I thought we were
reviewing, approving or rejecting the sign and the design of
it was irrelevant to me in the long run. If it is a question
of just-
Woito/ You authority is limited.
Pigott/ I think the aesthetics of this design is good. I like the
look of it. I like the thermometer within the- I, generally
speaking, am not in favor of projecting signs and if that not
the basis in which we can make our vote-
Woito/ If that is the case you should change the ordinance but not
now.
Baker/ No, I understand now. I thought that is what we were doing.
Pigott/ I understand. I don't see this as an attempt to get around
the rules.
Throg/ What is the rationale against projecting signs?
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Baker/ The original discussion was as soon- The fear was as soon as
they start coming out what you have got is vision for that
sign. It sticks out and you got pedestrian traffic. Well, the
business behind it has a projecting sign and they feel they
need a projecting sign. You sort of get into dueling signs,
projecting signs and they get more elaborate and there are
ways to work around the ordinance to get attention. That was
the problem of projecting signs.
Throg/ I was trying to understand what the objection-
Horow/ It was the objection to the projection that this create a
clutter. Especially in the mall. That it was not in keeping
with what the-I want to say the historic aspect of that d.t.
Iowa City was looking like.
Baker/ I have no problem with how the sign looks.
Horow/ I think the sign is pretty. I don't like the projection.
Kubby/ I am anxious to see the steam coming out.
Pigott/ That should be fun.
Horow/ Oh, you will.
Throg/ To be fair about our points of view here I think projecting
signs-I don't have any problem with them at all in the
pedestrian mall. It is literally a matter of design. Got to
pay attention to the quality of design. If you have high
quality design the projecting sign is going to enhance the
character of the place. I think the best I can tell Laurie's
design is really quite nice.
Kubby/ So, I thought that the DR Co~unittee had asked that whoever
would deal with this issue take another look at the whole
issue of projecting signs.
Franklin/ The DR Committee has not made a proposal to date.
However, they are considering suggesting to the P/Z Commission
and council a reevaluation of projected signs. Whether there
would be a limitation on that just on City Plaza for instance
because it is very pedestrian oriented as opposed to allowing
projected signs throughout the community. Could have certain
size limitations on it to get back to the issue that Larry is
talking about. This all came from back in the 60's when we had
a lot of signage in the d.t. The sign ordinance was adopted
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and there were a lot of people behind it at that time because
of the clutter of signs d.t. But there was no regulation of
them and so it came out with an absolute prohibition on
projected signs but I think there is some that feel that that
had gone to far. And there may be some way to do it.
Baker/ My confusion. Are projecting signs legal or not legal in the
plaza?
Franklin/ Projecting signs are prohibited. However, you may have a
time or temperature sign in which you have something that
gives you time or the temperature in association with an
identification sign. A bank. Okay. And I think that is what
everybody has accepted and is a little unusual.
Tulchin/ I would just like to add one thing. Do you believe that
awnings project?
Horow/ Sure.
Tulchin/ Then every, almost every sign in the Plaza area that you
like or that you allow is projecting. The only signs that
don't project are fascia signs and if you are proposing
everybody have a fascia sign-I mean, that doesn't make any
sense. What you are doing is stifling anybody-
Franklin/ (Can't hear) projecting canopy awning.
Tulchin/ They all project.
Kubby/ In a practical sense they come out away from the surface of
the building.
Tulchin/ Awnings project. The Burger King sign projects.
Time/temperature sign projects. They all project. It just
depends on semantics. It depends on whether or not you want to
call my sign a projecting sign, a markee sign-
Pigott/ I think it is more than semantics but I do understand your
point about the blurring line between the awning and the-
Tulchin/ First National Bank have a time/temperature sign which is
not as creative or nice in any way. It is just informational.
And that I cannot have a creative sign that I spent a lot of
time designing and thinking about. Somebody thinks I am
deliberately trying to get around the ordinance. The ordinance
is (can't hear) and it is unfair and it is all a matter of-
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There is nothing deliberate about it. I will comply with
whatever ordinance states.
Kubby/ Although, you must admit that the original design of the
sign didn't have a temperature gauge on it.
Tulchin/ No, I don't admit that. Nobody knows what the original
design of the sign was. The original design included a clock
and a thermometer but it was cost prohibitive.
Lehman/ Susan, I really like the design and I would like to vote on
it.
Horow/ Great. Any other questions?
Pigott/ I like the design of this, too. If we are voting on the
design of it, I-
Baker/ It is clear what we can vote on.
Horow/ Roll call-Resolution is adopted with Horow voting no.
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Regular Council Meeting
August 1, 1995
Page 18
ITEM NO, 17 -
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT AND AUTHORIZ-
ING MAYOR TO SIGN AND CITY CLERK TO ATTEST CONTRACT FOR
THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FAIRVIEW AVENUE/HIGH STREET
STORM SEWER PROJECT,
Comment: This project involves construction of storm sewer improve-
ments in the area between Fairview Avenue and High Street. The
improvements are designed to reduce storm water flooding and
associated property damage. Funding for this project is from General
Obligation Bond proceeds. The bid opening for this project was August
1, 1995, and the following bids were received:
B & D Construction, Iowa City
Alternate bid for boring
9240,809.00
(342,824.00)
Maxwell Construction, Iowa City
Alternate bid for boring
9271,864.50
(356,310.50)
Tschiggfrie Excavating, Dubuque
Alternate bid for boring
9389,402.85
(434,822.25)
Engineer's estimate
9323,944.00
[or (9477,244.00)-if the
alternate bid for
boring is selected]
Public Works and Engineering recommend that the contract including
Alternates 1A and 2A for boring, be awarded to B & D Construction of
Iowa City.
Action:
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ITEM NO. 17 -
CONSIDER h RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT AND
AUTHORIZINg MAYOR TO SIGN AND CITY CLERK TO ATTEST
CONTRACT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FAIRVIEW
AVENUE/HIGH STREET STORM S~WER PROJECT.
Horow/ Moved by Kubby, seconded Pigott. Discussion.
Kubby/ B & D?
Arkins/ Barker.
Kubby/ So, one of the things my consciousness has been raised about
making sure lines are in right and that since I have been on
council things have always been incorrectly and recently we
have had an issue where a sewer line wasn't done correctly and
we have had to make some alternative arrangements with this
company being that company. Because it is the lowest bid I
feel comfortable doing this. But I guess what I would like us
is some slightly higher degree of inspection from our
Engineering Department to prevent whatever happened in
Whispering Meadows so it doesn't happen.
Rick Fosse/ It has already been discussed.
Horow/ I concur. Any other amscusslon.
Kubby/ Glad to see local people bidding on these things and being
the two lowest bids are local folks. So I am glad they will be
spending their money locally.
Horow/ Okay. Roll call- (yes).
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August 1, 1995
Page 18
ITEM NO. 17 -
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AWARDIN UTHORIZ-
ING MAYOR TO SION AND CITY CLERK TO ATTEST COl FOR
· THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FAIRVIEW STREET
}EWER PROJECT.
ments
associated
Obligation
1, 1995, and
This project involves construction
area between Fairview Avenue
are designed tg reduce
~perty damage. Funding for
proceeds. The bid openi
e following bids recei~
improve-
High Street, The
water flooding and
prolect is from General
project was August
Engineer's estimate
8323,944,00
(or ~477,244,00 if the
alternate bid for
boring is selected)
Public Works
to
recommend that the contract be awarded
Action:
Agenda
Iowa City City Council
Regular Council Meeting
August 1, 1995
Page 19
ITEM NO. 18 -
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT AND AUTHORIZ-
ING MAYOR TO SIGN AND CITY CLERK TO ATTEST CONTRACT FOR
THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE LONGFELLOW STORM AND SANITARY
SEWER PROJECT.
Comment: This project consists ofthe reconstruction of approximately
1,400 linear feet of sanitary sewer and 2,150 linear feet of storm
sewer. The project also involves miscellaneous repairs to the sanitary
sewer system. The Engineer's estimate is 9496,117.00. Funding is
from General Obligation Bond proceeds. The bid opening for this project
was August 1, 1995, and the following bids received:
B & D Construction, Iowa City
9474,065.00
Maxwell Construction, Iowa City
9571,721.50
Engineer's estimate 9496,117.00
Public Works and Engineering recommend that the contract be awarded
to B & D Construction of Iowa City.
Action= ~/~:~'
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ITEM NO. 18 -
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT 1%t~
AUTHORIZING MAYOR TO SIGN AND CITY CLERK TO ATTEST
CONTRACT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE LONGFELLOW
STORM AND SANITARY SEWER PROJECT.
CHANGE TAPE TO REEL 95-93 SIDE 2
Horow/ Moved by Lehman, seconded by Pigott. Any discussion?
Kubby/ Are we doing General Obligation Bond versus federal flood
money for this project because we couldn't have the project
done and thus encumber the money by August 157 Originally some
of these projects were flood moneys.
Atkins/ That was one of a number of reasons. Moving-the Greenview
Project was pending. The peninsula purchase. Honestly don't
recollect all the reasons but there was a timing issue and we
switched this thing over.
Kubby/ So we can't just have the contract signed by August 157 It
would have had to have done the work and paid them for
sections of the project by August 157
Atkins/ As I understand it we, if we encumber the money prior to
the 15th we would have been okay. We were not guaranteed we
could get these projects together in that timely fashion.
Kubby/ I guess I want to and I don't need to talk about it tonight
but I want to make sure that you understand clearly what the
federal government means by the word encumbered and if it can
be interpreted as a signed contract that we pay with federal
flood moneys instead of return it.
Atkins/ I can assure you that we I would make every every effort to
make sure.
Horow/ Any further discussion? Roll call-(yes). Resolution is
adopted.
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Regular Council Meeting
August 1, 1995
Page 19
ITEM NO. 18 -
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT AND AUTHORIZ-
ING MAYOR TO SIGN AND CITY CLERK TO ATTEST CONTRACT FOR
THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE LONGFELLOW STORM AND SANITARY
SEWER PROJECT.
Comment: This project cons. ists of the recohstruction
1,400 feet of sanitary sewer and 2,150
sewer.~ The project also involves miscellaneous
sewer The Engineer's estimate is 949,
~ral Obligation Bond proceeds. The bi¢
was 1, 1995, and the following bid.,
feet of storm
to the sanitary
17.00. Funding is
for this project
Engineer's sstim~
Public
to
Action:
za
9496,1-17.00
recommend that the contract be awarded
Agenda
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Regular Council Meeting
August 1, 1995
Page 20
ITEM NO. 19 -
'/5 ~ z~
ITEM NO. 20 -
CONSIDER RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION
OF THE LONGFELLOW AREA SANITARY SEWER REHABILITATION
PROJECT.
Comment: This project consists of root grinding and pressure grouting
of 1,332 joints on 8" vitrified clay sewer pipe. The Engineer's estimate
is 939,815.44. Funding is from General Obligation Bond proceeds. The
bid opening for this project was August 1, 1995, and the following bids
received:
Visc-Sewer Clean & Seal, Inc.,
St. Louis Park, MN
$27,990.60
Engineer's estimate
939,815.44
Public Works and Engineering recommends that the contract be awarded
to Visc Sewer.
CONSIDER RESOLUTION RESCINDING RESOLUTION 852 ESTABLISH-
ING THE MAYOR'S YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM AND RESOLU-
TION 92-28 ADOPTING BYLAWS FOR MAYOR'S YOUTH, AND IN LIEU
THEREOF AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE
SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF IOWA CITY AND
MAYOR'S YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM, A NOT-FOR-PROFIT
CORPORATION.
Comment: At the April 18, 1995 Mayor's Youth Board meeting, the
Mayor's Youth Board of Directors voted (10-1 of 11 members present)
to formally request separation from the City of Iowa City. The City
Attorney had previously advised that if the Board chose to become
independent, they incorporate under Iowa law as a "not-for-profit
corporation" - which has now been done. The resolution rescinds the
two resolutions establishing the Mayor's Youth and approving their
bylaws, and authorizes entering into an agreement for providing in-kind
bookkeeping services.
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ITEM NO. 20 -
CONSIDER RESOLUTION RESCINDING RESOLUTION 852
ESTABLISHING THE MAYOR'S YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM
~ RESOLUTION 92-Z8 ADOPTING BYLAWS FOR MAYOR'S
YOUTH~ AND IN LIEU THEREOF AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF
AN ~DMINISTRATIVE SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE
CITY OF IOWA CITY AND MAYOR'S YOUTH EMPLOYMENT
PROGRAMt A NOT-FOR-PROFIT CORPORATION.
Horow/ Moved by Pigott, seconded by Kubby. Discussion.
Pigott/ Ben O'Meara is here and we talked a little bit about the
agreement we have for the next year. Maybe we could have Ben
come and talk for a second about that.
Kubby/ Maybe we could outline the question really quick that was
brought up and the question was if Mayor's Youth will be
independent from the city and be a private not for profit, why
we do bookkeeping services in the long run for the
organization?
Ben O'Meara/ The main reason for that is we attempted to establish
banking independent from the community. One of the things that
we would need to do is establish a line of credit. The banks
that I spoke with required three years of sound financial
documentation in order to establish that kind of credit which
we don't have. Our recent history is kind of a financial
nightmare. So, what we talked about and what the city Finance
Department and Accounting Department suggested was that we
continue to do our banking through the city for a period of
time that would establish that financial credibility and then
connect with a bank at some future date not to exceed three
years.
Kubby/ I guess I would describe it differently. That if you would
use the word nightmare, that the past history has been a
nightmare. But the recent history at Mayor's Youth-You have
been very good in getting the organization back so you are not
in debt. You have done an amazing job. You and your Board have
made a commitment to get that agency back on target and you
have done a great job. And if we can assist for three years in
helping you establish that credit so that then you are totally
independent I want to do that.
O'Meara/ The city deserves a great amount of credit for that. The
city Accounting Department. Craig Standish and Regina
Schreiber who worked very closely with us to get things under
control and taught me a lot about accounting. Thank you.
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Pigott/ I just have a couple of quick other questions concerning
employment. Layoffs are not going to happen or maybe?
O'Meara/ For us?
Pigott/ Yeah because of the separation, no different staff? Is that
correct?
O'Meara/ No.
Pigott/ No effect on health or pension benefits?
O'Meara/ The pension we have to switch from participating in IPERS
that is available to city employees, to an independent pension
plan which we are in the process of establishing. And the
health and things were already separated from the city.
Pigott/ Great.
Kubby/ Thanks for staying so long to answer those questions.
Horow/ Any other discussion? Roll call-(yes). Resolution is
adopted.
Kubby/ Although why not just do a three year contract?
Woito/ I was going to suggest that except his Board has already
signed it.
Kubby/ Maybe next time they can get a two year.
Woito/ I agree.
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Agenda
Iowa City City Council
Regular Council Meeting
August 1~ 1995
Page 20
ITEM N0.19-
CONSIDER RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT FOR
OF THE LONGFELLOW AREA SANITARY SEWER
PROJECT.
:ONSTRUCTION
Comm~nt: This project consists of root grindir
of ints on 8" vitrified clay sewer
is I15,44. Funding is from
I opening for this project was August
eived:
pressure grouting
Engineer's estimate
proceeds, The
and the following bids
En{ imate
tO
Action:
939,815.44
recommend that the contract be awarded
ITEM NO. 20 -
CONSI£
TIO[
YOUTH
CORPORATION.
RESCINDING RESOLUTION 852 ESTABLISH-
(OUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM AND RESOLU-
G BYLAWS FOR MAYOR'S YOUTH, AND IN LIEU
ING EXECUTION OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE
BETWEEN THE CITY OF IOWA CITY AND
/]ENT PROGRAM, A NOT-FOR-PROFIT
Comment: At the April
Mayor's Youth Board of
to formally request
Attorney had previously
independent, they
corporation" - which has now
two resolutions establishing
bylaws, and authorizes enterin
bookkeeping services.
1995 Mayor's Youth Board meeting, the
[10-1 of 11 members present)
from the City of Iowa City. The City
that if the Board chose to become
under Iowa law as a "not-for-profit
en done. The resolution rescinds the
Youth and approving their
an agreement for providing in-kind
Action:
Agenda
Iowa City City Council
Regular Council Meeting
August 1, 1995
Page 21
ITEM NO. 21 -
ITEM NO. 22 -
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND
THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST A SANITARY SEWER EASEMENT
AGREEMENT, A WATER MAIN EASEMENT AGREEMENT AND A
STORM WATER MANAGEMENT EASEMENT AGREEMENT FOR
MEADOWLARK CONDOMINIUMS.
Comment: Under the Iowa City City Code, C.B. Development, Ltd.
submitted a site plan for the development known as Meadowlark
Condominiums. City staff approved the site plan subject to the property
owners entering into a Sanitary Sewer Easement Agreement, a Water
Main Easement Agreement and a Storm Water Management Easement
Agreement. This Resolution authorizes the execution of the necessary
· Easement Agreements.
Action: ?~'/~,~,L ~¢~x2
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION RESCINDING PRIOR RESOLUTION 94-253
AND IN LIEU THEREOF SETTING FEES AND CHARGES WITH RESPECT
TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF REGULATIONS OF VEHICLES FOR HIRE.
ITEM NO. 23 -
Comment: This resolution increases Taxicab liability insurance amounts
for personal injury from ~2.50,OO0/$500,000 to 8500,000/~) 1 ,OOO,O00
and also changes the combined liability amount from ,f, 500,OOO to
91,000,000, The Assistant Finance Director has recommended these
changes and it is anticipated that the increase may raise liability
premiums 20-30% for the insured.
ADJOURNMENT.
City of Iowa City
MEMORANDUM
DATE: July 28, 1995
TO: City Council
FROM: City Manager
RE: Work Session Agendas and Meeting Schedule
July 31, 1995
6:30 P.M.
6:30 P.M.
7:30 P.M.
8:00 P.M.
8:20 P.M.
8:30 P.M.-
8:45 P.M.
Monday
City Council Work Session - Council Chambers
Review zoning matters
Fringe Area Agreement
Community Networking Group Presentation
Purchase of land adjacent to Weatherby Park
Council agenda, Council time, Council committee reports
Consider appointment to the Mayor's Youth Employment Board
Tuesday
- .Regular City Council Meeting - Council Chambers
August 1, 1995
7:30 P.M.
August 14, 1995 Monday
6:30 P.M. - City Council'Work Session - Council Chambers
Agenda pending
Tuesday
- Regular City Coqncil Meeting - Council Chambers
August 15, 1995
7:30 P.M.
PENDING LIST
Appointment to the Housing and Community Development Commission - August 29