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AGENDA
REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF AUGUST 29, 1995
7:30 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CIVIC CENTER
410 EAST WASHINGTON
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AGENDA
IOWA CITY CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING - AUGUST 29, 1995
7:30 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
ITEM NO. 1 - CALL TO ORDER.
ROLL CALL.
ITEM NO. 2 -
MAYOR'S PROCLAMATIONS.
Coldten Retirement Residence Week- September 3-10, 1995.
ITEM NO.* 3 -
CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED
OR A[VlENDED,
Approval of Official Council actions of the special meetings of
August 14, August 17, and August 24, 1995, and of the
regular meeting of August 15, 1995, as published, subject to
corrections, as recommended by the City Clerk.
Minutes of Boards and Commissions.
(1) Design Review Committee meeting of July 31, 1995.
(2)
Broadband Telecommunications Commission meeting
of July 24, 1995.
(3)
Riverfront and Natural Areas Commission meeting of
July 19, 1995.
(4) Airport Commission meeting of July 13, 1995.
(5) Board of Library Trustees meeting of July 27, 1995,
(6) Planning and Zoning Commission meeting of August
17, 1995,
Permit Motions as Recommended by the City Clerk,
(1)
Consider a motion approving a Class "C" Liquor
License for Diamond Dave's Taco Company, Inc,, dba
Diamond Dave's Taco Company, 201 S, Clinton St.,
Suite 279. (Renewal)
(2)
Consider a motion approving a Class "C" Beer Permit
for Doc's Standard, Inc., dba Doc's Standard, Inc.,
801 S. Riverside Dr. {Renewal)
City of iowa City
MEMORANDUM
To:
From:
Date:
Re:
Mayor, City Council and General Public
City Clerk
August 25, 1995
Addition to the Consent Calendar
Item No.3b(7) Minutes of Rules Committee of July 31, 19.95.
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(3)
(4)
Consider a motion approving a Class "C" Beer Permit
for FAP Enterprises dba Gasby's, 1310 S. Gilbert St.
(Renewal)
Consider a motion approving a Class "E" Beer Permit
for Nash-Finch Company dba Econofoods//473, 1987
Broadway St. (Renewal)
Setting Public Hearings.
~- Z51 (1)
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION SETTING A PUBLIC
HEARING FOR SEPTEMBER 12, 1995 ON PLANS,
SPECIFICATIONS, FORM OF CONTRACT, AND
ESTIMATE OF COST FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A
PRODUCTION WELL IN THE JORDAN AQUIFER AT
THE WATER FACILITY SITE, DIRECTING THE CITY
CLERK TO PUBLISH NOTICE OF SAID HEARING, AND
DIRECTING THE CITY ENGINEER TO PLACE SAID
PLANS ON FILE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION.
Comment: This work involves the construction and
test pumping of a Jordan well at the Water Facility
site. A 16 inch diameter well will be installed to an
estimated depth of ±1600 feet. Estimated wall
capacity is 1000 gallons per minute. Finish site
grading, placement of the permanent pump and
construction of the well house are not included in this
work. This work will be financed from Water Revenue
Bond proceeds.
(2)
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION SETTING A PUBLIC
HEARING FOR SEPTEMBER 12, 1995 ON PLANS,
SPECIFICATIONS, FORM OF CONTRACT, AND
ESTIMATE OF COST FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF
GROUND STORAGE RESERVOIR PUMP SYSTEM
IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT.
Comment: This project involves the renovation of
pumps, motors, piping and controls together with
other related work at the three 2 million gallon ground
storage reservoir/booster stations. This work will
improve the City's ability to control pressure and flow
throughout the water distribution system. This work
will be financed from Water Revenue Bond proceeds.
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Regular Council Meeting
August 29,1995
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(3)
(4)
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION SETTING A PUBLIC
HEARING FOR SEPTEMBER 12. 1995 ON THE
PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS, FORM OF CONTRACT
AND ESTIMATE OF COST FOR CONSTRUCTION OF
THE IOWA RIVER CORRIDOR TRAIL, IOWA MEMORI-
AL UNION BRIDGE TO IOWA AVENUE, PROJECT,
Comment: This project will extend the Iowa River
Corridor Trail from the Iowa Memorial Union Bridge to
Iowa Avenue and will include tunneling under the
CRANDIC Railroad embankment. The construction
cost estimate is ~ 1 58,682, of which up to $111,700
will be funded by Federal Surface Transportation
Program Enhancement Funds. The remainder will be
funded by the General Fund, Road Use Tax revenues,
and possible cost sharing with the University of Iowa.
CONSIDER SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR SEP-
TEMBER 12 ON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE
14, CHAPTER 4, "LAND CONTROL AND DEVELOP-
MENT," ARTICLE C, "HISTORIC PRESERVATION
REGULATIONS," SECTION 3, "HISTORIC PRESERVA-
TION COMMISSION," BY INCREASING THE RE-
QUIRED NUMBER OF AT LARGE APPOINTMENTS TO
THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, AND
BY AMENDING THE PROVISIONS FOR FILLING
VACATED, UNEXPIRED TERMS.
Comment: The Historic Preservation Commission, at
its August 8 meeting, by a vote of 4-0, recommended
approval of the proposed amendments. This ordi-
nance will be accompanied by a resolution amending
the Commission's by-laws with regard to the filling of
vacated, unexpired terms as suggested by the Rules
Committee.
Resolutions.
(1)
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE OFFI-
CIAL FINANCIAL REPORT FOR CITY STREETS AND
· PARKING PROGRAM PROJECT STATUS REPORT FOR
THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING JUNE 30, 1995,
Comment: The Iowa Department of Transportation
requires all municipalities to submit these reports
annually on or before September 30.
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August 29, 1995
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(2)
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE
MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST
A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT EASEMENT AGREE-
MENT WITH BUNCriER CO. FOR PROPERTY LOCAT-
ED AT HEINZ ROAD AND HIGHWAY 6.
Comment: Pursuant to Title 14, Chapter 5, Article H
of the Code of Ordinances of the City of Iowa City,
Iowa, Buncher Co. submitted a site plan for a develop-
ment located at Heinz Road and Highway 6. City
staff approved the site plan subject to the property
owners entering into a Storm Water Management
Easement Agreement. This Resolution authorizes the
execution of the Stormwater Management Easement
Agreement.
Correspondence.
(1) Letter from Joy Brown regarding the East Loop bus.
Letter from Evelyn Krall regarding Des Moines'
scooper law.
(3) Letter from Regina Alatalo regarding traffic problems
at intersection of Highway 1 and Kitty Lee Road.
Applications for City Plaza Use Permits.
(1) Application from John Timmers to set up a table on
August 24 and 25, 1995, for the purpose of distribut-
ing literature regarding the campaign to organize
graduate students. {approved)
(2)
Application from Grace Trifaro to set up a table on
September 9, 1995, for the purpose of distributing
literature for the Coalition Against the Contract.
(approved)
(3)
Application from Grace Trifaro for permission to set
up a table on August 19, 1995, for the purpose of
distributing literature regarding pet overpopulation,
and also for the use of the stage area for a vigil.
(approved)
(4)
Application from Rebecca Thomas to set up a table on
August 26 and September 2, 1 995, for the purpose of
distributing information regarding her church. (ap-
proved)
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August 29,' 1995
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ITEM NO. 4-
Applications for Use of Streets and Public Grounds.
(1)
Dash. (approved)
Application from Todd Pentico for the use of public
sidewalks on September 8, 1995, for the D.O.C,
END OF CONSENT CALENDAR
PUI~LIC DISCUSSION (ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA).
ITEM NO. 5 -
PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS,
Consider setting a public hearing for September 12 on an
ordinance amending the Zoning Chapter by changing the use
regulations on an approximate 2,02 acre tract of land located
east of Lakeside Drive and south of Highway 6 from D-RS,
Interim Development Single-Family Residential, to RM-12, Low
Density, Multi-Family Residential. (REZ95-0012)
Comment: At its August 3 meeting, by a vote of 5-2, with
Scott and Starr voting no, the Planning and Zoning Commis-
sion recommended denial of the requested rezoning. The
Commission's recommendation is inconsistent with the staff
recommendation to approve the rezoning subject to a condi-
tional zoning agreement. At its August 17 meeting, by a vote
of 4-2, Gibson and Jakobsen voting no, the Commission
approved a motion to reconsider its recommendation, If the
commission revises its recommendation, it will be available for
the public hearing.
Action=
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August 29, 1995
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Public hearing on a resolution to annex a 3.05 acre tract
located north of American Legion Road and west of Arlington
Drive. (ANN94-0008) /.,.]~
Comment: At its July 18, meeting, by a v.ote of 5-2, with
Gibson and Scott voting no, the Planning and Zoning Commis-
sion recommended approval of this annexation. The Commis-
sion's recommendation is consistent with the staff recommen-
dation contained in the staff report dated October 20, 1994
and the staff memoranda dated November 1, 1994 and
August 3, 1995. Comments were received at the Council's
August 15 public hearing on this item. The public hearing
was continued to ,A~.ust 29.
Consider a resolution to annex a 3.05 acre tract located north
of American Legion Road and west of Arlington Drive.
(ANN94-0008) ~
Comment: See item b.
Public hearing on an ordinance amending the Zoning Chapter
by changing the use regulations of a 3.05 acre tract located
noah of American Legion Road and west of Arlington Drive
from County RS, Suburban ~esidential, to RS-5, Low Density
Single-Family Residential. (REZ94-0013)
Comment: At its July 18, meeting, by a vote of 6-1, with
Scott voting in the negative, the Planning and Zoning Commis-
sion recommended approval of this rezoning. T~e Commis-
sion's recommendation is consistent with the staff recommen-
dation contained in the staff repo~ dated October 20, 1994
and the staff memoranda dated November 1, 1994 and
August 3, 1995. Comments were received at the Council's
August 15 public hearing on this item. The public hearing
was continued to August 29.
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ITEM ~O. 5c. Consider a resolution to annex a 3.05 acre tract
located north of American Legion Road and west of
Arlington Drive. (ANN94-0008)
Horow/ Chair would entertain a motion to approve the resolution.
Moved by Baker seconded by Kubby. Discussion.
Kubby/ Usually I don't like to support an annexation that's so
small, but this is part of the original tract of Windsor Ridge
and we should put this back into the project before the whole
project is developed and people start viewing this as open
space because the original intent was there to be houses on
this land. And so we should rectify the process that we've
recently gone through to make sure this goes back into the
project.
Throg/ I guess I'd like to say to that the one property owner
objected, opposed annexation fears that his property will
become an island fully encircled by the city. But that's not
what would happen as a result of this annexation. There'd
still be a connection between the county and his property so
that objection doesn't go anywhere.
Horow/ Anyone else care to make a- Roll call- (ayes).
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Consider an ordinance amending the Zoning Chapter by
changing the use regulations of a 3,05 acre tract located north
of American Legion Road and west of Arlington Drive from
County RS, Suburban Residential, to RS-5, Low Density
Single-Family Residential, (REZ94-0013) (FIRST CONSIDER-
ATION) ~/~
Comment: See item d,
Public hearing on an ordinance amending the Zoning Chapter
by changing the use regulations of an approximate 29 acre
tract of land located west of Mormon Trek Boulevard and
south of Rohret Road from RS-5, Low Density Single-Family
Residential, to OPDH-8, Planned Development Housing
Overlay. (REZ95-0009)
Comment: At its August 3 meeting, by a vote of 6-1 with
Dierks voting no, the Planning and Zoning Commission
recommended approval of the requested rezoning, conditioned
upon: 1) limitation of building permits to 150 dwelling units
until the Abbey Lane sanitary sewer line is upgraded; 2) a
provision in the legal papers indicating the homeowner's
association's responsibility for snow removal from sidewalks
on the private streets; 3) payment of fees in lieu of construct-
ing the sidewalk on Rohret Road; and 4) phasing of develop-
ment according to the phasing schedule shown on the OPDH
plan. The Commission's recommendation is consistent with
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ITEM NO. 5f.
Public hearing on an ordinance amending the Zoning
Chapter by changing the use regulations of an
approximate 29 acre tract of land located west of
Mormon Trek Boulevard and south of Rohret Road from
RS-5, Low Density Single-Family Residential, to
OPDH-8, Planned Development Housing Overlay.
(REZ95-0009)
Horow/ Declare the p.h. open. I would ask you to sign in, state
your name and keep your comments to no more than five minutes.
Gary
Watts/ I'm developer of this piece. I would like to start out
tonight and I'd like to give the council if I could, I've got
some aerial photos of the area where we're trying to develop
and also the surrounding neighborhoods to see what kind of
housing's integrated in that area. So I'd like to hand that
out to the council. Also I have eight important factors that
I'd like you to consider in Mormon Trek Village so I'd like to
hand that to the council also if I could.
Kubby/ Would you make sure the city clerk gets a copy if you have
enough for her?
Watts/ I think I have ten of these things. (Refers to handout). I
think the first thing I'd like to comment on is our plan today
meets the Comp Plan of Iowa City. Our first go around with
staff, I think we were around 286 units or so. Currently
today, we're 232 and that does meet the Comp Plan of Iowa
City. I'd also like to commend staff and P/Z Commission. I
think they did a good job with us. We did a lot of negotiation
and a lot of thought process went through in the last six to
eight months through that process with staff and also P/Z.
Number two, the Planned Area Development and City Review
Process, this is a 29 acre tract and it also brings to the
city where you can plan the whole project down to the garage
doors. We have 4-5 different elevation. We have some 12
plexes, 18 plexes, and it does give you a planned area
development where you can look at, you know, how the mail
boxes are designed in the streets and everything. So I think
it's important for the city to see a development that's
totally planned out. Number three, proper land use. It's an
infilled development. It's between two arterial streets and
Highway 218 which eventually will be the Avenue of Saints.
Also it's walking distance to two commercial. I believe to the
north is the Fareway Center, Braverman Center. And to the
south, Moreland has some areas, and First National Bank has a
bank and what not. So it's between two commercial areas. It
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offers a range of housing styles and prices, entry level to
retirement. We've got buildings with elevators in them. Indoor
garages. We've got price ranges anywhere from $65,000 to
$120,000, so it offers a lot of different types of family
situation, empty nesters and retirees housing. Tax base
increase. It's amazing to me. The current taxes on the piece
of real estate there is $1500 roughly, $1528. Fully developed,
approximately $650,000 will come into the city of Iowa City in
tax base. Six, the economic effects- construction industry,
approximate build out over time is around $30 million in that
little piece of real estate. Seven, current city
infrastructure expenses. Obviously we all know through a tax
base we paid for Weber School. Also we're paying for Rohret
Road right now and city bus route, it's right on city bus
route. Also the Abbey Lane sewer line I believe is coming up
in '97. That's a trunk line sewer that will open up I believe
a 5-6 acre watershed west of this site, so I just want to
point that out too. And I believe that Abbey Lane sewer is
approximately $800,000. And last, I have future water
retention west of Mormon Trek. If we do with the city
regulation on storm water retention on this site, that will
help with future water retention if things develop west of
this site. That's all I have and I'd appreciate your vote on
this matter. Do you have any questions?
Kubby/ The point of these pictures is that this neighborhood has a
real diversity of housing currently. That there are single
family detached. There are apartment buildings. There are
condos, fourplexes. There are duplexes. Is that your message?
Watts/ That's true. Yes.
Kubby/ I just wanted to make sure I got it.
Watts/ Yes.
Kubby/ Okay.
Horow/ Anybody have any questions? Thank you.
Watts/ Thank you.
Judy Pfohl/ I'd like everybody in the audience who's against the
rezoning to please stand up. And there's people outside, if
you can't see them. Okay. I've been the Ty'n Cae
representative for three of the past years. We've been working
on this for the past year, going through the different
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rezoning ideas with P/Z. We have a few things that we'd like
to hand up to council at this point. We have some petitions
that we'd like to give to the clerk. We also have a letter
signed by the pastor of the church that is adjacent to it that
we'd like a copy for each of the council members which
basically says that they're concerned because they do have a
childcare there. That it would be right next to the road where
all of this would be exiting. And we have an overhead map of
the city. If you could run those around, Barb. An overhead map
of the city where we've colored in the RS-5 areas currently
and the areas that are higher density. If you look at- We have
to have it checked with the clerk. Okay. If you look at the
map when you get it, the red zones are the single family. If
you notice on Mormon Trek, and you follow it down from
Melrose, it's green all the way down. The area that we're
trying to change is one of the last areas that's left single
family. We also have books that we're handing you and if you
notice, we have a density analysis and on the map, there's a
map within that too. One is a verbal density analysis
describing each of the areas the number of units. Another is
a map defining each of the pictures where we have pictures of
each of the units. The area from Melrose down to the highway
along Mormon Trek has a total of 1,585 non-single family
t~nits. That's 87% of it. Total single family units is 238 or
13% of it. We represent the Tae n Cae area which is numbers
13, 14, 15, and 16. Out of that we have 63 single family
units, 54 townhouse basically they're rental and 32 condos and
then another 18 of off Cambria Court townhouse and condos that
exit on Mormon Trek.
Kubby/ Judy, are all these areas built out fully?
Pfohl/ Those are, the green ones off of Mormon Trek everything is
build except up by the Honda dealer there's still a section
between New Life Fitness that's zoned. That's planned does not
have the units in. And then there's the commercial areas that
aren't finished at this point. I'd also have some pictures
we'd like to show of the units that are next to the Quik Trip
on the corner of Benton and Mormon Trek. You can see that sort
of right in the middle of your map. And if you could pass
those pictures around, that is an area that was originally
presented as single family, as purchase as they came up for
sale, they were purchased back. They're now all rentals,
almost all rentals. And there's pictures of the parking
problem in that area. You'd recognize them as the yellow units
right next to the Quik Trip, and you can see the double and
triple parking in that area because of it being rental. We've
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already handed in petitions. We've handed in a couple hundred
petitions. We've handed in the 24% signatures which is
signatures of all land, neighbors landowners around it except
two home owners who have been out of town and unable to be
contacted except the city, because they own part of the land,
except the state because of the interstate, and except the
Brad Houser's three duplexes which he owns across the street
because he's a partner with Mr. Watts, we didn't ask at that,
whether he would vote against his partner. But he does own the
duplexes there. The density in the booklet I think if you look
through that and if you drive through you'll see, we already
have density. This is not a question of mixing neighborhoods.
We already have a lot of diversity in the area. At this point
to add diversity, we need single family. Currently it's RS-5,
even though the Comp plan says 2-8, if you consider eight
being usually build 65-85% of that land being buildable, that
would still only be 186 units. We're looking at 232. We are
requesting it to be at the RS-5 which at 65-80% buildable
since it has a major gas line through it and the water area,
it would 0nly be 94-116 units. Questions narrow streets, we're
concerned about the emergency vehicles and other vehicles
access. If you notice how dense those parking areas, even
though it's technically private road and theoretically has
access to vehicles, with that many cars through that much
area, and the density of the apartment complexes right at the
end, if you have that much cars, you won't be able to get any
safety vehicles through there. The other question on parking,
if parking's available, if parking is across the streets from
the apartment areas, where's the extra parking if somebody has
a party, if somebody has visitors, if you're having 12-18,
four 12 and 18 plex units, there's not enough extra parking
for them to have three, two, four cars based on a unit if it's
three four bedroom. And any multilevel building that we found
in the area of Iowa City in a similar type zoning, is rented.
The majority of small condos in town are rented. If you
include Dolan Place, the three duplexes owned by Brad Houser
again, those basically, it's all rental area. If you include
the yellow condos by Quik Trip. Those are all rental. Again
saying that it's initially set up as for individual buying and
individual owners for affordable housing, if you look at the
statistics and what's happening, those become rental units
with high density parking and higher density cars than an
individual owner. So it's not affordable property. It's not
affordable housing as an issue. The other issues, it's
diminished buying power if somebody does go in and buy a
duplex because of paying condo fees on top of what they would
pay for the unit. If you go in and try to buy something at 90
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to 100,000, 120,000, you're adding another 6-10,000
theoretically in the cost assuming you might have to pay $50-
$100 a month because it is all private, private roads. You're
going to have to take care of the whole area. The other is in
Colorado and other areas, we've heard over time, and this is
looking at 20 years, after areas have been set up, large
associations have defaulted, have decided why pay the fees and
it has deferred back to the city, in which case the city has
to maintain the narrow private roads and maintain the other
transportation problems which it's not wide enough for buses
or any other access through it. The traffic at Mormon Trek,
four lanes from Rohret and heading up to Melrose is considered
19-20,000 a day cars. ~o lane from Abbey toward the highway
right now is considered 10-11,000 cars per day. There's no
plans at this point for widening that. At this point we have
almost 8,000 cars on account going through that. Once Rohret
is open, it has developed more. It only has currently 3,000
cars this spring before they did the construction. It has
3,000 cars coming out of that. We assume it will go up. If it
goes up another 1,000 and we're looking at another 2,000 cars
coming out of this area, we're definitely overloading what's
supposedly is the main access road from there toward the
highway. The other is, if you look at 232 units times just
five exits per day, that would be another 1160 exits out onto
Mormon Trek, because people don't usually go Rohret and go
left. They go, if they're coming off the intersection off of
the opposite Hall Drive, they would be coming out Mormon Trek,
they would be going down Benton or out to the highway. If
they're going to be going to the city, the main part of the
city, you're going to add another probably 8 or 900 trips per
day of cars down Benton. If this was single family, even at
120 homes, which would be pushing what we would expect, it
would only be 600 exits. You'd be cutting it in half for the
number of cars coming out affecting Benton and going down a
two lane road. At this point there is no date for Rohret Road
lights. We've been told some time there will be one. It could
not, maybe we will not even get those lights until they've
built the first 100 and some units. There's no, there is no
date for lights on Rohret and Mormon Trek, even when Rohret is
finished being developed. It's not listed at this point. Also
again, you have the letter about the daycare and the exit at
that point. The exit also is where it goes from four lane to
two lane on Mormon Trek where there already are three signs
warning you coming from Benton Street heading towards the
highway down Mormon Trek. About the road narrowing and about
the danger of the curve at the point where all these would be
exiting. Miscellaneous, the flooding concern. Again, they are
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going to have to do some sort of holding pond which they have
in their plan. We need the storm water retention because we're
covering something like 500 acres on the other side of, anyway
quite a few acres on the other side of the interstate that
that water's coming through. Anytime you're doing additional
building, you're going to have trouble with water. These are
the points you have. We've created the booklets. Hopefully
I've spoken for most of the people and covered most of the
issues. We've tried to keep it down but I know that some
people will still add more issues. Are there any questions?
Horow/ No. I would make a comment though that the council has been
very concerned about the traffic light at Mormon and that is
scheduled to be put in upon completion of that project.
Pfohl/ We do have a date, great.
Horow/ That's what we're hoping for. Are there any questions?
Pfohl/ Any more questions to me?
Kubby/ It wasn't really on the completion of the road. It was going
to be spring or fall. So within the year.
Horow/ Yeah. Within the year.
Pfohl/ So it will be when,
can be putting it in.
right now.
as they're doing the construction they
Because they're putting the gravel on
Kubby/ That would it seems to me to make the most sense. But money
and timing don't always make.
Horow/ Any other questions for Judy? Thank you.
Richard Carey/ Walden Court. I'm a spokesperson for the 26 units on
Walden Court. This is an association. It's a group of duplexes
and it's located on the north side of Rohret Road. The 26
homeowners in the Walden Court Association want to protest the
density of this complex, especially the multi-unit complexes
which I will call apartments. Over the past four years, I have
spoken at about ten P/Z meetings regarding problems with the
southwest part of Iowa city. I've spoken to many staff
members. I've spoken to some past and present members of the
city council. It's been my observation that the city has a
policy of let the home buyer beware. When the city staff and
other people are asked about water runoff from adjoining
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properties, they say file a law suit. When they pass a grading
ordinance and it doesn't apply to areas that are known to
flood, they say that it's too bad. They require too few
parking spaces per unit. Anyone that's known that many of
these units are going to be occupied by many cars. They
encourage apartment units in the middle of an area that has a
lot of single family and duplex units. If you look at the
surrounding units that immediately surround this, they're
single family and they're duplex. There aren't any apartments
that immediately surround the area. Mormon Trek village is a
good example of the policy of Let the Homeowner Beware. This
applies not only to the home buyers in the surrounding areas
but the home buyers that will be in Mormon Trek Village.
There's not enough parking around the apartments. these units
will be purchased by investors and rented out for $500-$800
per unit. Only multi-person groups of five or more will be
able to afford to use them. They'll have many cars. This is
what happened to the yellow condos on Quik Trip. They were all
sold individually and now they're owned by investors and
rented out. The apartments don't fit in with the surrounding
single family homes, the church and duplex. The three story
units which are much taller. They're much more massive. There
aren't any natural boundaries like trees in in the area and it
will take fifty years to get the trees. Other problems like
traffic, possible flooding of Abbey Lane which has happened in
the past and will get worse because this units taking up the
absorbency of the land. Narrow roads known to cause danger. In
summary we protest the density of the apartments. And if you
pass this you're sending the message to the people of Iowa
City, let the home buyer beware.
Horow/ Any questions? Thank you.
Kubby/ Thank you, Richard.
Horow/ Anyone else care Go address council?
Bob Livingston/ One of the things that I'm very much concerned
about and wondering if the developer has ever done any study
on the increase of crime and multi-housing units like this
with the high density. If no study has been done on this, then
I believe it should be done. This will put an extra strain on
the police force which is a public agency. There will be more
tax dollars paid because of all of those things. I've been
also, I've been concerned that if this development has private
streets, does that mean that the owners of the property own
the streets? And if it does, then they can limit the access of
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police and fire fighting equipment should they so desire in
case violence erupts in that particular area. Will the police
need special permission to come on private roads?
Horow/ Mr. Livingston, that was a good question but I'd like to
have it answered right now by our attorney.
Woito/ No. They can't limit, they have to provide public access for
public safety purposes to police and fire. And you asked the
first question, are they privately owned. In they're in the
homeowners association, they're owned by the whole property
owners, not individually. They each own 1/100 or whatever.
Livingston/ All right. But if the association decides that they
will not allow police on to their private property then the
police are going to have to have a search warrant even to
drive through the street to police it. Is that correct?
Woito/ No, that's not correct.
Kubby/ Will there be a public easement?
Woito/ There will be a public easement that requires public access.
Otherwise we have a serious problem with the health and safety
of the residents.
Kubby/ So it's not just a matter of safety personal, but I could
drive or bike or walk down that street.
Woito/ Of course.
Kubby/ Because it's a public easement.
Woito/ It's not a closed community as you're seeing in some other
states in the nation like California, Florida, and on the East
Coast. It's not a closed community. Iowa City has not yet gone
for any closed communities.
Livingston/ What is our guarantee that that is true?
Woito/ The legal papers.
Livingston/ And the legal papers state that that will not in any
way at any time in the future be a closed community?
Woito/ Yes. They will be recorded in the Recorder's Office.
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Livingston/ Okay. The other question that I had was, had to do with
the same thing along with private streets. What about access
to fire vehicles, and so on, if the roads are narrow and all
the access is blocked by extra cars that are in there? This is
one of the great concerns that we have, because we're right
next to this particular property.
Woito/ I think probably Karin Franklin would be a better one to
address that in terms of the Fire Marshall's review of it.
Livingston/ Okay. But I believe that our main concern is the
increase in crime in that area. And violence. Statistically,
I don't have any, I should say, I don't have any statistics to
prove that high density areas are more open to crime and
violence, but if we look around Iowa City and see some of the
different areas where I have friends living in apartment
buildings from the different stories that they relate to me,
they're afraid to walk out at night because of the people who
are living in those areas and getting together in gangs and so
on. And I believe this will be a very huge detriment to west,
southwestern Iowa City and to us personally and to the whole
neighborhood. Therefore I'm very concerned about the crime.
And I believe some study needs to be done before any
permission is given to go ahead with this project, not just in
a small city like Iowa City, but also in some of the high
density areas even in some of the larger cities. Because we
know from the newspapers and television if we can ever believe
them that these gangs are coming in from other parts of the
states, other parts of the United States, to take up residence
in these high density areas. And that's a very great concern
on all of our parts that this could happen to our area.
Horow/ Thank you. Ms. Franklin, would you please address the issue
of the width of the streets and the fire safety?
Franklin/ The entire project, as is routine procedure, was reviewed
by the Fire Marshall and streets have been approved for access
by fire vehicles.
Horow/ Anyone else who cares to address council?
Larry Svoboda/ I thought I'd just stop down and listen tonight, but
after listening to the last two or three speakers, I thought
I felt compelled to say something about this project. I had an
opportunity to take a look at this project a year or two ago
and I went out and stood on a hill there for about half an
hour and I decided that I didn't think I would have any
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interest in doing anything in this project. And one of the
reasons that I felt that way was because 1-380 right behind
the project and the noise that the cars and the traffic
creates going up and down the interstate 24 hours a day. I'll
try to make my point brief. I've seen some of the drawing that
Mr. Watts has put together on this project, and I don't think
you're ever going to get a better opportunity to put a better
project together in that neighborhood than what he's proposed.
It's in my opinion, it's no way is a single family
neighborhood because of the noise problem and I think that the
idea that he's putting the apartment units along back edge of
the project is going to help screen the interstate and also
act as a great traffic buffer. Quite frankly my opinion of the
neighborhood is that it should be anything from light
manufacturing to whatever because it's not suited in my
opinion for single family housing. So I think with the
aesthetic buildings that Gary has put together on this
project, incidentally, I have no vested interest in this thing
one way or another. I think you've got the best deal you're
ever going to get laid before you as far as that little
triangular piece of ground goes and I think that's something
you really ought to strongly consider approving. Thank you.
Janus/ I also oppose the current zoning change for this
development but for different reasons. The entire site has not
been properly evaluated for wetland sites according to Tim
Thompson who I talked with, who is wildlife biologist with the
DNR. The last soil evaluation of this area was performed
before the US 218 four lane extension was built. He states
that on those surveys, there may be soils that would qualify
under the wetland provisions of the DNR and the Corps of
Engineers. And he specifically mentioned Coli-ealy Complex
Wetland soils in this. If this were true, then this needs to
be evaluated for the possibility of wetlands. He suggested
that I request an application 41-404 wetland application be
requested to be filed by the city planning department
regarding this. He further indicated that as a private
citizen, I could request this to be done and completed before
any construction was performed. There are several areas in
this tract of land including the stream on the south end of
the property bordering the Korean Baptist Church which I think
in fact are wetlands. Before any further development of this
property is done, I request that the property be cleared from
the wetland standpoint. Giving the pending city council
actions on environmentally delicate locations around the area,
I respectfully suggest that at least a vote on this zoning
change be delayed until this considered legislation is
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completed. I think it would be unfortunate that this
development would destroy precious wetlands within the city
boundaries. In addition I think that this area should be
developed at the current R-5 value as single lot affordable
housing. Indeed, the current proposal's developer's engineers
in my opinion admitted at the last P/Z committee meeting that
houses qualifying under RS-5 could be built for approximately
$95,000 per unit at five per acre. Thank you very much for
your attention. I'll be happy to answer any questions.
Baker/ Mr. Janus, have you brought this issue to the attention of
the planning staff or is it just recent work?
Janus/ I just contacted Mr. Thompson last Tuesday, a week ago
today. Then I talked with him later this afternoon just to
make sure that number one, I had his permission to bring these
comments forward. And number two that I had my facts correct
according to what he had indicated.
Baker/ It's just very hard to respond to that short notice like
this. Thank you.
Kubby/ Karin, do you know if this area is delineated on our
sensitive areas map? Although we know that some areas on there
after field inspection may need to be added and deleted.
Franklin/ We have done an analysis since the analysis Mr. Janus
refers to which is evidenced in the map that's hanging on the
wall there which looks at all of the soils and the potential
for wetlands. There are no potential wetlands that are shown
on this particular site. Now there may be some soil types, I
think Mr. Thompson said they could be indicative of wetlands
in the drainage area which is south of the project where the
storm water detention would be. But we show no potential
wetlands on our sensitive areas map, and that was done by a
consulting engineer.
Kubby/ When did our technical advisory committee that looks at
environmentally sensitive areas do a field inspections to
verify that there were no wetlands? or didn't we do that
because it wasn't indicated?
Franklin/ We didn't do it because it's not indicated that there's
an environmentally sensitive feature on the map.
Kubby/ Is that something that we could do in a two week time frame
to have so those people from that community could go just to
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verify that the map is correct?
Franklin/ I think we probably could, yeah.
Kubby/ Would people object to that happening? It's important to
follow through on those kind of comments because they have a
commitment to (can't hear) that are deemed wetlands.
Janus/ My response to that is, why was this information withheld
and not communicated to the state DNR people if an interim
soil analysis sample was performed in this area?
Franklin/ It was not withheld from the DNR. Tim Thompson is very
aware of our sensitive areas research. So I can't answer the
question of what exactly he said and why.
Janus/ I told you exactly what he said to me and why and I'd just
request once again that a form 401-44 be submitted so that
this can be approved by the Iowa State DNR as well as possibly
the Corps of Engineers before any further construction is
done. I think that it is possible that there are some vested
interests within the planning department and that therefore
they've made decisions unilaterally without consulting the
appropriate people involved. Thank you.
Horow/ I think that what we will do is take the ad hoc committee
that we've already constituted to look into this situaiton and
upon their recommendation go further if necessary or it not
(can't hear).
Janus/ Thank you. I appreciate it.
Franklin/ On behalf of my staff, there's no vested interest in this
project.
Horow/ And none was intended.
Kubby/ I guess to be clear what our protocol is, what we
traditionally do is we look to see on the map if an area that
someone wants to develop is a sensitive area. We have our
technical advisory committee do field inspection and then,
especially for wetlands, then if they say there are wetlands,
then the next step is then to have the Corps verify and
exactly delineate where the wetlands appear. Is that correct,
Karin? She's nodding yes. (Can't hear) about protocol.
Horow/ Would you care to address council?
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Larry Schnittjer/ MMS Consultants. We've done part of the design
work on this. It's been a team project from day 1. There's
been a lot of discussion on the difference between the streets
in the project and the streets in the rest of the city, the
public streets. The real difference between this project and
the public streets is this does not have a public right of way
over the top of the street. There are many streets in this
community that are 25 feet wide and narrower in areas all
over town. Friendship Street is one of the longest streets in
town and it's 25 foot for a good portion of its distance. And
a lot of the streets in the southeast part of Iowa City in the
Plum Grove area are 25 feet wide and various other areas. Mr.
Jameson made some comment that I'd said we could get houses
out there for 95,000. I do not recall that. I don't think it's
possible to put single family houses on the lots out there for
that, because by the time we put the improvements in or a
subdivided lot, it's just not possible. Last night's work
session, Mr. Throgmorton asked what the cost differential was
for twenty foot street versus a 25 foot street. That cost
differential is really insignificant compared to the cost of
the development. The actual cost is about $6 a lineal foot for
the pavement which if we were doing subdivided lots would be
$180-300 per lot when you include the corner lots and etc. We
are now seeing development costs for residential properties
ranging from $50,000-$80,000 per acre, so this street
improvement cost is minuscule. Are there any other questions
that I may help you with? On the wetland issue, if there is a
wetland there, and if it works out that there's no problem
converting our storm water basin to an enhanced wetland
facility, I don't think there will be any problem with the
whole project.
Thorg/ Thanks for looking into teh development costs.
Horow/ Anyone else care to address council?
Casey Cook/ I live at ~1 Oak Park Court. It's on the west side of
Iowa City. I'm a former member of the P/Z Commission. I've got
a terrible cold. As a former member of the P/Z Commission, the
neighbors concerns are very familiar to me. They worry about
the safety of their children and worry about too much traffic.
And they worry about too much traffic. And they worry about
losing value in their homes. I'm not here to challenge them,
but to respectfully offer another viewpoint. I recently served
on the Vision 2000 Project. I was on the on the land use
subcommittee. At that time we questioned whether our work
would be taken seriously by the council. I'm here this
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evening. I'm here this evening because of that concern. The
group that I was part of, there were nine of us on the group.
They included Michael Bryer, who was a student; John Casko,
Judy Champ who you may know from her involvement in the
Melrose road widening; myself; Steve Draw who is a father of
two, he's in the real estate business; Nancy Ostrogny; Douglas
Russell, Doug Russell is the chair of the Historic
Preservation Commission; Bob Saunders who is the chair of the
Johnson County P/Z Commission; and Dee Vanderhoef who is the
chair of the Parks and Recreation
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These are folks of different perspectives, different parts of
town, different concerns. We hammered out a consensus about
how we felt we'd like the city look. And I quote, a well
planned neighborhood welcomes all people and includes both
owner occupied and rentals, single family and multi-family
housing. And the goals that we outlined include to ensure that
an appropriate supply of adequate, accessible, and affordable
housing is available for all, that the city take an active
role to ensure diversity of housing types in future growth
areas. And that the city develop planned neighborhoods that
support the principal of diversity of both housing types and
households, and provide opportunities for interactions among
neighbors. We were one of nine task forces involved in the
Vision 2000 statement. Each one of those task forces had nine
people on them. The second task force to focus more
specifically on housing was the Housing Task Force. It
included Paula Brandt, Robert Carlson, Jason Chen, carolyn
Corbin, Susan Dulek, Charles Eastham, Mark Kamps, Eddie Kelly,
and Eric Neilhausen. They went through pretty much the same
process we did from very different perspectives and their
consensus was as follows: A well planned neighborhood, I
already read their consensus. What I didn't read was our
consensus. Future growth and development of the community
should be guided and managed to create a city which is
accessible to all, humane, inclusive, diverse in land uses,
employment, and housing opportunities. It was also decided
that affordable housing is for those who making 65% or less of
the median family income. In Iowa City that's about $30,000,
which translates into housing for under $90,000. Our median
home currently is about $110,000. It costs 30% per unit more
to develop single family houses at three units per acre than
it costs to build at ten units per acre. Density and
affordability are closely related. It's naive and misleading
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to say affordable housing is okay as long as it's single
family. To find out who suffers from the lack of housing under
$90,000, ask who in Iowa City makes less than $30,000. The
people who make less than $30,000 are the ones who work in our
stores. They're the ones who fix our cars, they're the ones
who serve our meals, and they're the ones who care for our
children. Communities which exclude these people are called
drawbridge towns. The drawbridge community is a community
attitude that says, we've got ours and shuts out newcomers.
It's supported by absurd laws imposed on the state level which
require a supermajority for zoning change. In effect it allows
half a dozen land owners to thwart an entire city. Can you
imagine requiring an 85% majority to pass a school bond issue?
I talked about people who make less than $30,000. I think
we'll also find our own children and our own parents among
that group. And if we look closer, I think we'll find
ourselves. We'll find ourselves when we were 25 years old and
we just landed our first job and we wanted to find a place to
live in the community where we worked. I think we'd find
ourselves five years after retirement or our health started to
go. And I think we'd find ourselves if we lost our spouse
either through death our marriage broke up. So I think there
are voices that aren't here tonight. They include the 80 plus
people who developed the Vision 2000 and asked to be taken
seriously. They include us. They include us as we were and as
we will become. We are a city with a pro-active responsibility
to create a community rich, and I'm quoting now, from a
consensus of these groups in the Vision plan. Quote, we'll be
an inclusive a~cessible and safe community to all its
citizens, embracing persons with disabilities and all races,
cultures, lifestyles, ages, and socio-economic groups. You can
find that quote on the first page of the Vision 2000 report.
We put it in there because we believe it. You'll be supporting
that vision by supporting your staff and supporting your P/Z
commission and I urge you to vote in favor of this
subdivision.
Horow/ Thank you.
Throg/ Casey, are you going to give us a copy of that statement?
Cook/ Sure.
Barb Standish/ I live on Abbey Lane. I have the quick 60 second
question. Why are we discussing the rezoning of a current
zoned property? And that's my question.
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Horow/ Because the developer who has come has asked for it to be
rezoned. That is their right.
Standish/ I appreciate that. The reason the folks are here tonight
is that we're not opposed to developing. We're not. It's just
keep it at what it's zoned at. That's all I have to say. Thank
you.
Doug
Eltoft/ I live on Burry Drive. I have to say, I lived in this
area for some years and the people there support this concept
of diversity and they like the housing. We're not against the
development per se. I think it is not a good characterization
of us to say that we are against the plan that Project 2000
and the statements that it made. We support those
dramatically. What we feel, what I personally feel is that if
there were some changes made to this that would affect things
like street width, the fact that the sidewalks are right up
against the street, the fact that that will affect the
standard of living for people in this co~tunity that choose to
live there, everything from school bus access to getting your
mail at the end of the subdivision to having on street parking
for visitors. What I'd like to see when approve this type of
plan, it's really nice housing but get the streets wider, get
the access in there, what the density comes out to be, fine,
you know, I'm not opposed to the apartment houses. I'm not
opposed to the types of really good looking buildings that he
wants to put in there. We have a community that was put in by
Moreland behind New Life, looks really nice. But they have
wide streets. They have parkways. They can plant trees. It's
going to be a much nicer looking area if it's developed with
wider streets and parkways. I'd like to see the density be
what it ends up to be with those improvements. So I would urge
you to vote this down and say look what density can we have in
there when we have those wider streets. Also one other thing.
I'd like to see a sidewalk along Mormon Trek. I feel paying a
fee to not put that sidewalk in, is just not a good idea. I
don't know how you can alter the plan if you have the option
to.
Horow/ Excuse me but the fee that is being paid is for the city to
complete the sidewalk on Rohret. The developer does have to
put the sidewalk in on Mormon.
Eltoft/ Okay. I misunderstood that.
Horow/ Thank you.
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Wendy Molof/ Cae Drive. I also oppose this but sort of just second
what already has been said, that I think that when you address
this area as being affordable, the other word that continues
to go along with that is accessible. And I think that when you
look at 25 foot private streets, that you are not talking
about city bus or school buses and when you are talking about
addressing the people who are looking into this affordable
housing, they may not be the people who have the two cars.
They may not, they are going to have younger that don't have
good accessibility to get up to the bus stops that probably
will be up on Rohret Road. That's quite a hill that comes up
from the bottom of this development up to Mormon Trek. When
you start to look at the people who would fit into affordable
housing, I think you have to address the need that this is not
acceptable housing when you have private streets.
Horow/ Are there some other people who like to address this because
at this point-Okay.
Jong
Koo Lee/ Pastor of All Nations Baptist church. I'm one of
opposed to rezoning. I would like to cite two reasons why I'm
opposed to the proposed rezoning. Well the first reason why I
oppose rezoning the land is for security reasons. As everybody
knows, we are running a preschool and Mormon Trek Road, there
are four lanes and then it changes into two lanes and right
now we have traffic problems, but if they develop the area as
high density multifamily housing, dramatically increase the
traffic volume and you would create problems. And I think it
is important for the city council to look far ahead in taking
action. If it is certain or probable that problems will arise
as a result of something, I think it is better to prevent
problems than try to solve them when those problems arise.
I've been to Paris and Paris is well know for good city
planning. It was planned at least 100 years ahead. I mean the
mayor of the city looked at least 100 years ahead and tell
himself, choose sewage system, the streets are very wide. And
when it was developed, many citizens protested. But he had a
vision. He looked ahead. He looked ahead to the problems which
others could not see. And at the moment for practical reasons
and safety reasons, it's almost certain that many problems
will arise. I think it is wise not to allow the development of
high density multi-family housing at this moment. And I have
a question on one of the four conditions. Number one,
limitation of building permits to 150 dwelling units until the
Abbey Lane sanitary sewer line is upgraded. I think something
is wrong with this condition, because until Abbey Lane sewer
is upgraded no more than 150 dwelling units can be built.
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Horow/ The existing sanitary sewer can take the 150 increased
number. It just can't take more than.
Lee/ Right, but if we translate this sentence literally, many
people can argue that this sentence will suggest that more
housing units can be developed after.
Horow/ That's exactly why it's in there.
Throg/ Another 82 units.
Lee/ Yeah. So I think while something seems to be wrong condition
one. If you read it carefully, until the sanitary sewer line
is upgraded, 150 dwelling units willo
Horow/ Right.
Lee/ Be limited. And then after that it can be, more housing units
can be built.
Horow/ Yes.
Lee/ So.
Nov/ 232. It's not unlimited.
Horow/ There is a specific number for this particular parcel, and
after the sewer line is upgraded, there can be up to, how
may?
Nov/ I say it's 232.
Horow/ Okay. So there is a total that can be put in, only now can
they put 150, giving the existing sanitary sewer line. After
that is upgraded, they put more in, up to 232.
Lee/ So when they, when the zoning commission examined their
request, it seems like they didn't take traffic volume and
other issues into account. That's one of my major concerns.
Thanks.
Horow/ Thank you very much.
Pigott/ Thank you.
Horow/ Is there anyone else who would like to address council?
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Sharon MacDonald/ Walden Woods Neighborhood Association. I have a
whole bunch of things to say, but I know that you guys are
getting tired so I'm going to try to keep it short.
Horow/ You've got five minutes just like everybody else, Karen, go
right ahead.
MacDonald/ I have the feeling that sometimes we're talking we're
talking about apples and oranges here. We are talking about
affordable family housing and our commitment to that. I don't
think anybody in this room is against affordable, accessible
family housing. I think everybody in this room is tricking
themselves if they think that Mr. Watts is wanting to provide
this I think what he wants to do is make some money. And I
think the way to make money is to put as many units as
possible on this property. We are in an area that is
incredibly heavily already. Everybody in my neighborhood is
panicked about this. One of the exit points from this
developments is going to go right in to our development and
we're positive that cars are going to come whipping through
Walden Woods as people try to avoid the intersection either
with or without a light, because right now people whip through
Walden Woods to avoid Rohret Road's intersection with Mormon
Trek. So I don't think that we should, if the city wants to do
affordable family housing, we start some kind of a loan
process. We should do some sort of low interest financing. But
that's a separate issue, I think, from developing land. Mr.
Watts is not a social worker. He's a developer. And I think we
need to keep that very clear in our minds that his primary
motivation has got to be financial. I haven't heard him say
anything else and I can't imagine that it would be. We're all
here asking for your help. This is the second time around for
us. The first time he proposed 300 units. Now it's gone down
to 232. Most of us would like to see it hover somewhere around
100, because we feel that would be an acceptable number. If
you drive there, if you look at those pictures, you're going
to see it's a teeny, tiny little piece of land. It just
doesn't look like 232 units could go in there. And on a more
personal note. I've lived in these units that are supposed to
be affordable family housing. I spent six years in the
infamous yellow townhouses beside QT on Mormon Trek while we
saved money to buy our first house. I can tell you it's not
affordable family housing. It's cheap, crummy units, poorly
made that cost $675 a month for a two bedroom. We were one of
the only families that ever lived there for a long period of
time. We were there for six years. The rest of the occupants
are students and they add more students. Every time rent went
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up, they move another student in, so you have 6-7 people
living in each unit. For them it's affordable. It's $100
apiece. My kids don't pay me any rent, so it was hard for us.
Buying a house for $120,000 only upped payments by you know,
like $250. So for us it was very affordable. We're not in this
high income bracket. We're regular Iowa City people. We were
able to save. We were able to scrape and we made it. I think
it's possible to do. We live in a house that was made by
Bishop Ward. We felt it was made well. It's not real creative.
It's a very simple house plan. It's a very simple house. But
it's perfect for our needs. It's 1,800 sq. ft. Some of these
units that Mr. Watts is going to build are a little bit bigger
than our garages. I think we need to think about quality of
life. People, sure they might jump at the chance of buying a
$65,000 apartment, but how are they ever going to re-sell it?
Do you want to buy somebody's old hovel? No. You'll just buy
a new one of your own. It's not going to work out the way
we're thinking. It's not as glamorous or grandiose plan as
being proposed. It's a simple business plan and I don't think
it's fair to the neighborhood. You have a ton of people here
begging you to stop it and we're going to come every time.
He's rich and powerful and we're stubborn. The more times he
proposes it, the more times we'll be back. I don't think it's
ever going to go away unless we can get some kind of an
understanding that we're not opposed to this vision. We're not
opposed to the 2000 plan. We're not opposed to integrated,
diverse accessible, affordable housing. I like to I know be
able to afford my house. It was great. So no one's opposed to
that. But we are opposed to just weird dinghy little places.
They're going to awful in 5-10 years.
Horow/ Thank you.
Nov/
I have to comment on that. I hope everyone would understand
that when we are dealing with a plan that must be approved by
this council, we will not approve something awful, dinghy.
Please give us credit for a little better sense.
Horow/ Anyone else care to address council? If not, I'd like to ask
Mr. Davidson to step up to the mic. There have been comments
about the width of the street, the accessibility, buses,
school buses. Because I live in a part of town where there are
25 foot streets, I'm a little bit baffled as to the concern
about accessibility here. Mr. Davidson, would you comment on
this?
Davidson/ The issue of the street width is one that we have taken
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very seriously because we are starting to see more and more
development projects where there is an interest in essentially
recreating something that as one of the previous speakers
said, exists all over Iowa City, exists in some places with on
street parking which we would not necessarily recommend but in
fact it happens. In fact it does work. It does have some spin
off effects of slowing traffic down if there is on-street
parking that we feel are positive aspects and are the things
that we find in some of our older neighborhoods in Iowa City
that are considered very valuable places to live.
Horow/ And the buses are able to get through?
Davidson/ Yes. Buses, we do have 25 foot streets, Friendship Street
is a bus route. I'm sure you might have people on Friendship
Street that would indicate they didn't feel it was the most
positive situation but a bus can physically do it. Now we do
not initially or ever possibly see a bus going through this
development. We feel that with the bus stopping right across
the street, the existing route will provide access to this
development.
Nov/ Buses could fit. We would like to have a bus within a half
mile or something like that for accessibility? We're not
looking for buses on every corner.
Davidson/ No. We do feel that with the mix of units in this
development as it is proposed, that we would get some fairly
decent transit ridership possibly out of it. We have a lot of
people who live in this area who work at University Hospitals
who consider that a real nice bus trip because its almost as
fast as driving a car and parking in the University facility
because you don't have to go clear across the river to
downtown. So we think that it has the potential for some
pretty good transit ridership out of this area.
Horow/ Thank you very much.
Kubby/ I had a question for Gary. It's about the elevations.
Horow/ Mr. Watts, would you please come up to the mic?
Kubby/ And there's some things I really appreciated about the
different elevations, that there's different styles of
housing. It's not one model that's just slightly modified.
There are real significant differences. But one of the things
that we talk about a lot is the prominence of the garages. It
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just kind of perpetuates the value that cars are one of the
most important things in our lives and it's kind of shown in
the facade of the building is largely garage in some of these.
And was there any attempt to put garages on the side or in the
back or did you look at any other plans? I mean that's one of
the my major concerns about the design of the building is the
frontage.
Watts/ Well first of all, we did look at trying to come around from
the side but the slope of the land and what not is very
difficult to make that work. We did look at that. On some of
garages we left on some of them, one huge garage door. And we
did split those up right down the middle to make two separate
ones. It should be reflected I think, Karen, on our ranch
plan. Obviously on our 18 plex plan in which, I don't know if
you have in your packets. If you don't, I do have a large copy
here. That does have underground parking. So if you don't
mind, I'd like to show you that.
Pigott/ Sure.
Nov/ I think this probably.
Watts/ This is 18 units all brick. I'd be glad to turn this around
too after the council sees it. But I think it's a very
appealing building and then all the parking, Karen, you go
around to the back and then enter into your parking. It has
two garages doors and you go underground basically. It's not
really underground but it's the first level. As far as.
Kubby/ You have to wait to speak into the mic, Gary.
Watts/ Yes. As far as our other garages, what we tried to do in our
two story plan, if I could show you that briefly. We did
adjust this, Karen, and we had a two story plan here that
shows a lot more bases up through the two story too. And with
the balconies here and windows, it takes that emphasis away.
And then we added windows to the garages. So we tried to
deemphasize the garages through P/Z and some comments that
were made. Then on our ranches, what we did instead of one
large garage door, we ended up putting in two with brick down
the middle to break that up. So those concerns were voiced to
us and we did address that through P/Z commission.
Kubby/ It's helpful to know where you began and where you ended.
Horow/ Anything else?
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Kubby/ One more question for Jeff. I keep getting you up and down.
Sorry. I apologize. I go down that way once in a while but
where exactly does Mormon Trek begin and end with two lanes,
because it seems like it's four lanes on one end and it's four
lanes on the other end, and there's a stretch.
Davidson/ Yeah. From approximately the Abbey Lane/ Korean Church
area it tapers to two lanes. This was something that was at
the time the new freeway was put through, I believe there was
even a court case over it that actually resulted in the design
of the road being that way. That's why it's two lanes and the
rest of the street's four lanes. And then I believe it remains
two lane until you get to the intersection of Highway 1.
Kubby/ It's just so wide, it feels. But it is two lane.
Davidson/ It is two lane. Yeah.
Horow/ Is there anyone else who cares to address council? Is there
any correspondence to be accepted? The chair would entertain
a motion to so do. Moved by Pigott, seconded by Nov. Any
discussion. All those in favor signify by saying aye (ayes).
Kubby/ Is there any value in continuing the public hearing because
there's so much interest in it as an issue? Items of
discussion that we might potentially find to be-
Throg/ What would we be likely to hear two weeks along probably?
Horow/ The report from the ad hoc.
Kubby/ And if we wanted to make a condition about the wetlands if
they were to be delineated, it might be within the zoning
conditions that we would want to place as we've done with
other developments. That's kind of our protocol for dealing
with just that. I guess I want to keep that option open so
that we can confirm that before we close the p.h.
Horow/ Would council be interested in leaving the p.h. open if you
also took first consideration next week?
Kubby/ That's what I would suggest.
Nov/ If we'd do first consideration next time I would consider the
hearing.
Horow/ Would someone care to make a motion?
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Kubby/ I move to continue the p.h. to September 12.
Horow/ And also to have first consideration.
Kubby/ Yeah. I don't need to move that.
Horow/ Is there a second? Made by Kubby, seconded by Throg. Any
discussion? Does this, Mr. Watts, does this place undo
difficulty on plans that you have? All those in favor, signify
by saying aye (ayes) P.h. continued to September 12.
Throg/ can we discuss some of what we heard? Would it be
appropriate to do that now and think about it?
Horow/ Why not later?
Throg/ I want to.
Horow/ Oh. All right4
Throg/ So I guess I'll ask my question. I've got to say, I disagree
pretty fundamentally with some of the characterizations I've
heard with regard to some of the staff, with regard to Gary
Watts who I do not know well at all, with regard to the likely
occupants of the proposed development. Whether we approve it
or not, first of all, I'm pretty confident from a few
conversations with gary Watts, that he doesn't feel rich and
powerful. He has I assume a fair amount of money. I have no
idea because I have never talked to him about this, but he
surely does not feel powerful. I guarantee that. He feels like
this project is likely to go the drain and he's just spent a
lot of money trying to get it approved. So that's one thing.
And to talk about dinghy and crummy units and that are going
to occur five years from now, I just don't agree with that at
all. I think it's likely that they would be pretty good units
and the important thing is that they might be affordable units
as well which people need in this town. Another thing, a quote
that I wrote down, it said "high density areas are more open
to crime and violence." That implies that the occupants of
this development are going to be crime prone, violence prone.
I don't see any reason to believe that is the case at all. I
don't know how we could know that just because we might live
in a 24 unit apartment and even 24 units in a condo. So, I
just disagree with some of the characterization I have geard
this evening.
Horow/ The p.h. has been closed. We move onto to item g.
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Agenda
Iowa City City Council
Regular Council Meeting
August 29, 1995
Page 8
Public hearing on an amendment to City Code Title 14,
Chapter 6, Article V, "Minor Modification Procedures," to
allow parking for persons with disabilities in the front yard of
a commercial zone ~mm~when located adjacent to a residential
zone.
Comment: At its August 3 meeting, by a vote of 5-2 with
Jakobsen and Scott voting no, the Planning and Zoning
Commission recommended approval of the requested text
amendment, The Commission's recommendation is consistent
with the staff recommendation contained in the staff memo-
randum dated August 3,
Action: ~ ~./
Consider an ordinance amending the Zoning Chapter by
changing the use regulations of an approximate 250 acre
property located north of 1-80 and west of N. Dubuque Street
from County A1, Rural, RS, Suburban, and RS3, Suburban
Residential, to P, Public. (REZ94-0018) (Second consider-
ation) ~ ~
Comment: At its July 6 meeting, by a vote of 6-0, the
Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of
this rezoning. The Commission's recommendation is consis-
tent with the staff recommendation contained in the January
19 staff report. No comments were received at the Council's
August 1 public hearing on this item.
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ITEM NO. 5g.
Public hearing on an amendment to City Code Title
14, Chapter 6, Article V, "Minor Modification
Procedures," to allow parking for persons with
disabilities in the front yard of a commercial zone
even when located adjacent to a residential zone.
Horow/ Declare the p.h. open. I would ask you to sign in, state
your name and keep your comments to at least less than five
minutes or there abouts.
Lyone Fein/ I am wondering if there is information available about
why or what objections Jacobson and Scott had to this.
Horow/ Karin- Larry has been to so many P/Z meetings. Larry, do you
remember?
Larry Schnittjer/ (Can't hear in the audience).
Franklin/ I think the concern was that there might be a
proliferation of this. But I think they were also concerned
about a particular instance which was an impetus for this, a
property which compelled us to bring this even before the
council and they looked at that particular property and also
I know one of the things that they were concerned about was
the ability to enforce it which is a reality. These would be
spaces on private property and so it would require the
complaint of the property owner, I believe, unless there is
some special reason because they are persons with disabilities
that we could enforce it on private property.
Woito/ I can't answer that right now.
Franklin/ That the painting on the space that indicates that it is
for a person with a disability would wear off over time, that
the sign would be not visible. They just didn't like it.
Nov/ We do have those kids of designations on private parking lots.
How do we enforce those?
Franklin/ Parking lots, now, usually by complaint to the property
owner which would probably be compelled by a person who
couldn't find a parking space that was their customer usually
in a commercial zone.
Kubby/ For example, at Eoonofoods, if a police officer doesn't
regularly go through that lot to look for that kind of thing.
That could be a complaint basis.
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Franklin/ Right.
Nov/ So this would have to be a complaint basis also.
Franklin/ Yeah. I think they had misgivings about it and just
decided that they couldn't support it.
Nov/ But this kind of parking is allowed in other commercial zones
which are not adjacent to residential zones.
Franklin/ Yeaho In other commercial zones you can park in the front
yard. So, it really is not an issue in other commercial zones.
But the issue here has to do with requirement for keeping a
front yard comparable to the abutting property.
Kubby/ So the exception would only be allowed under certain
restricted conditions?
Franklin/ Yes and it is only when the topography and the
configuration of the lot or the size of the lot precludes
providing this either in the backyard or the sideyard. So, I
think the application is going to be fairly limited.
Kubby/ I mean one example would be a two story building where the
bottom was commercial and the top was residential on a hill
and so the parking for the whole building is in the back which
is on the upper level of the ill. So someone with a disability
couldn't park and then get around.
Horow/ Anyone else care to address this issue? Declare the p.h.
closed.
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Regular Council Meeting
August 29, 1995
Page 9
Consider an ordinance amending Title 14, Chapter 4, "Land
Control and Development," Article C, "Historic Preservation
Regulations," and Chapter 6, "Zoning," Article J, "Overlay
Zones" to allow the City to designate historic landmarks and
conservation districts, (Second consideration)
Comment: At its July 6 meeting, by a vote of 4-2, with
Jakobsen and Starr voting no, the Planning and Zoning
Commission recommended approval of the amendments
concerning conservation districts, and by a vote of 6-0,
recommended approval of the amendments on historic
landmarks. The Historic Preservation Commission, by a vote
of 5-0, also recommended approval of the amendments at its
May 9 meeting, Comments were received from the public at
the Council's August 1 public he3ring.
Action:
Consider an ordinance vacating a 20-foot
east of Gilbert Court and immediately north of Lot 4 of Block
3, Lyon's Addition. (VAC95-0002) (Pass and adopt)
Comment: At its June 15 meeting, by a vote of 5-0, the
Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of
the requested alley vacation. This recommendation is
consistent with the staff recommendation. No public com-
ments were received at the July 18 public hearing.
Consider an ordinance amending City Code Title 14, Chapter
6, entitled "Zoning," Article S, entitled "Performance Stan-
dards," Sections lOB and 10C, concerning the location of
underground storage tanks. (Pass and adopt)
Comment: At its June 15 meeting, by a vote of 5-0, the
Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of
the amendments concerning underground storage tanks. This
recommendation is consistent with the staff recommendation
contained in the staff memorandum. No public comments
were received at the .July 18 public hearing.
Agenda
Iowa City City Council
Regular Council Meeting
August 29, 1995
Page 10
ITEM NO, 6 -
Consider an ordinance amending tha Zoning Ordinance by
amending the use regulations of an approximate 103.86
acres, which includes the Highway 218/Highway I inter-
change and property located in the southwest quadrant of the
interchange from County RS, Suburban Residential, to C~-1,
Intensive Commercial. (REZ95-0011) (Pass and adopt)
Comment: At its June 15, meeting, by a vote of 6-0, the
Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of
this rezoning. This recommendation is consistent with the
staff recommendation contained in the staff report dated June
15. No public comments were received at the July 18 public
hearing on his item. The final reading of this ordinance should
be deferred until word is received from the City Development
Board.
Action= ~z/,~. / ~,~
m. Consider a resolution approving amendments to the by-laws
of the Planning and Zoning Commissio .~.~ ,.~
Comment: At its August 17 meeting, by a vote of 6-0, the
Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of
amendments to its by-laws. The changes involve amend-
ments to update and clarify the by-laws, and provide for
combining up to six months of an unexpired term with a full
term for one appointment to the Commission,
PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF A RESOLUTION ADOP I~NG'~"'ECO~
DEVELOPMENT POLICIES, STRATEGIES, AND ACTIONS FOR THE CITY
OF IOWA CITY."
Comment: Upon adoption of this resolution, this policy document will
be used by the City Council and staff to guide the City's economic
development activities. This item was deferred from the Council's
August 15, 1995, meeting.
Action: ~ ~
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ITBM NO. $ -
PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF A RESOLUTION ADOPTING
"ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICIES~ STRATEGIES, AND
ACTIONS FOR THE CITY OF IOWA CITY."
Horow/ So, at this point we would open public discussion and ask
you to sign in, and as with p.h.s, please keep your comments
to no more than five minutes.
John
Beckord/ Good evening. I am the president of the Chamber of
Commerce and I would like to say a few words about the
policies that have been presented. But first I would like to
congratulate you with finally coming to a consensus on these
issues. I know it has been a struggle. But I come tonight to
suggest that perhaps your job has just begun. Now we need to
walk our talk. The area Chamber strongly endorses a proactive
posture towards quality growth and economic diversification.
As a community we are either progressing or we are regressing.
We are either investing or we are divesting. A static state is
just not a viable option. I urge you to adopt a proactive
attitude and emphasize the desirability of economic
development to the welfare of the community. Use your public
voice to explain how diversification is a buffer against the
affects of business cycles. Help citizens understand that
industrial products and service companies have choices when it
comes to site locations and decisions. I would like to put
industrial business and development in perspective a little
bit and I would like to pass out and distribute some
statistics that are real easy to digest, I promise. What I
have done is complied some statistics from various economic
development journals about the factors that businesses look at
when they choose a location. I would also like to offer up two
or three statistics that kind of help put some perspective on
just how many companies are out there. First of all there is
about 22,000 development corporations, community based
development organizations that are out there chasing jobs and
projects. In 1993 there were 4,000 new corporate facilities
and expansions. So as a universe in the 1993 year, 4,000
projects that are out there for those 22,000 organizations who
are marketing and courting. In the ten states comprising he
midwest there were 1,286 projects in 1993. In Iowa there were
66. One thing I want you to note about these surveys from
Expansion Management Magazine, International Association of
Corporate Real Estate Executives, Site Selection Magazine is
that favorable local government attitude towards business
appears on most of them. The second page breaks them out: key
location factors by facility type. This is particularly
relevant to the discussion about targeting and it lets you
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know what companies typically look at when they look for
location. I urge you to carefully consider how competing
communities position themselves. You have no doubt read about
some of the things along this line in articles written in the
local press. What is the price and availability of land in
competing communities? Do they assess impact fees? How do they
use tax abatement and tax increment financing? Is the project
approval process swift and accommodating? And even if you
eventually decide not to compete in this game, I think it
informs you what your competition is doing as a relevant place
to start. You got to know your competition. You might note
that on this list incentives does not appear. There is an
awful lot of talk about incentives. And I think ICAD would
agree with me that if a firm solely chooses a location on the
basis of incentives, they are probably not the kind of firm
you want anyway. Incentives are deal breakers. They are the
things that differentiate communities that are equally
qualified for a project. In the case of financial incentives,
like community economic betterment account, economic
development set aside program and the RISE application, a
simple statement which pledges the council's full cooperation
in the application for financial assistance tells the prospect
you will do all you can to insure incentive funding.
Guidelines are already established by the state. In fact, you
may have read last week where the state has proposed
increasing the threshold whereby the community can qualify for
CEBA funds to 100% of the average wage in the community rather
than 85%. A move that I applaud. How can you move wealth in a
community up if you reward jobs that pay below the average in
a community. So the state is on the right track there and I
think the relevant point here for you is that those guidelines
are already in place. If there are additional local funded
incentives that you want to offer to reward companies who go
beyond state guidelines, package them as a bonus, a reward for
exceeding expectations. Perhaps inadvertently you have given
an impression throughout this process that you are inclined to
hold an applicant for financial assistance up to a new and
more rigid council standard. By micro-managing this process in
this way you have put yourself in a considerable competitive
disadvantage. And I don't really think that was your
intention. I would like to say a few words about targeting.
Even with considerable analysis and special assistance,
targeting is an imperfect science. Remember targeting is not
just industrial targeting. You might target technology. You
might target geography. A lot of development corporations
target a state or even Canada or something like that where
they perceive there is a competitive advantage. There are just
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so many variables, it is very difficult to control. But still
it is the best game in town. Everybody does it because it is
the best strategy available. But you need flexibility. You
need to be able to respond to shifts in capital spending
plans, new technologies, and comparative advantages to those
other communities. Everything is a moving target. It makes it
very difficult. If all of a sudden there is a surge in capital
spending in SIC-3621 Security Equipment due to a crime wave,
there is a lot of companies spending money on new capital
equipment. You need to evaluate whether that is a good
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Beckord/ Assessed with a slightly shifted perspective. And Bruno,
you have indicated you are aware of new creative thinking in
the field of economic development. I welcome your input. Let's
talk about it. Encouraging citizens to become more informed or
even provide leads to ICAD is instructive suggestion. Please
be careful, again, not to micromanage the process and waste
precious time and resources on hyperdemocracy. Also ICAD to
explain their targeting strategies. Let's open up a new
channel of communication between the council, the area
Chamber, ICAD and the University. Prospect and client
perception is very critical part of marketing a community. I
have one more piece of information that is relevant to this
point. The Chamber recently mailed a brief survey to its
membership. About 850 businesses were surveyed. We are just
getting the returns back now. We have 220 back. So this is in
process. Statistically I think it is relevant to bring this
point up. The caveat here is this is not a complete thing. I
do not have complete set of statistics. But for this purpose
tonight I did pull out a couple of numbers that I think are
relevant. I draw your attention to question #4 in second page
which said, "Please indicate the extent to which the following
factors are impediments to what you consider to be desire
growth, development and diversification." Under the foil of
attitude of city councilor of City of Iowa city a disturbing
68% of those responded that the Iowa City council is a serious
impediment to desirable growth and diversification. And
additional 25% indicated that they thought you were somewhat
of an impediment. This is 93%. Folks, we really need to work
on this. I didn't come here to criticize. I came here to
inform that we have a job to do, to turn the community around
about your position on growth because unfortunately you have
managed to create the perception in the business community
that your attitude about economic development is a serious
impediment. There is an important difference between managing
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growth in insure orderly infrastructure development and
environmental protection and controlling growth imposing a
council defined social and economic framework on all
development activity. I ask that you look at this problem
because Iowa City needs a healthy dose of enthusiastic
leadership and I am looking to you for it.
Baker/ John, would you happen to have the statistics for the other
three communities listed there?
Beckord/ Not with me but I will be happy to provide them to you
tomorrow.
Kubby/ Actually the results of the whole survey would be-
Beckord/ Absolutely. All the results will be forthcoming. Again,
this is one of these things that is coming in at the time. I
pulled those numbers out for tonight.
Horow/ Anyone else care to address council?
Colin Gordon/ The council gave me the courtesy of speaking to an
earlier draft of this before deferring your vote. I would like
to speak briefly to this draft as well. This draft I think is
a great improvement. It addresses many of my original concerns
and comes very close to sort of creative thinking that was
referred to by the last speaker. The idea of creating a social
compact between investors and other groups in the community
and not merely promoting investment for its own sake. I have
a few concerns with this draft, relatively minor concerns. In
part reflected in particular policies and in part reflecting
the difficulty of this sort of document which has a necessary
vagueness to it which is because it is sort of a vision
statement. I will just run through these in the order that
they appear in the draft. Starting with Policy 1, the header
in b01d face, I think given the work the council has done on
it that the goal of diversifying and increasing the property
tax base in not the first goal of this document. It is one of
things that you are doing but the document is really about
building employment and building a healthier and ore
sustainable economy and I think it might be nice to have that
upfront especially sort of given this vision statement that
you want. In Strategy B of Policy 1, Action 2, even watered
down in this draft strikes me as unnecessary°
Kubby/ Could you repeat which one?
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Gordon/ Strategy B, Action 2. It strikes me that it is the job of
the Chamber of Commerce to educate people ae to the role of
business in the community. Skipping over to page 5 on Policy
4, this is a slight inconsistency in the redrafting with the
addition of labor, consumer and citizen groups under the
header of Strategy C, I think those gr0upe should also be
included under one of the Actions below Strategy C so you have
entrepreneurs, business, government and education and those
are listed respectively in Action 1, 2, 3, and 4. But perhaps
there should be an Action 5 facilitating the input of other
groups otherwise it is a weaker commitment in that sentence.
Turning to page 7, many respects the real core of this
document is contained in Strategy B, Action 1 that is not the
creation of the committee but the designation of what
industries are targeted because this is where you put some
teeth behind what is cited under Policy 1 it is targeting. My
only concern here is that I wish that this strategy B, Action
1 was linked more consistently to other elements of the
document. For example is says nothing here about what
industries will be targeted and yet elsewhere, Policy 6,
Strategy-Action 1, for example, you talk about wages. Under
Policy 5 you talk about certain environmental standards. And
I take it these are givens throughout the document. Everyone
is agreeing that we want high wages, sustainable development
and I think you can say that here that this is what we are
going to look for and make a stronger commitment to it. I
finally like to address a couple of points made by the
previous speaker which I think speak to the sort of basic
disagreement over what this policy is about. I don't think
that the council should have to take the position of pursuing
what is called a proactive strategy of encouraging investment
when that consists of doing all it can to promote investment
but then forswearing its responsibility to shape or regulate
that investment. It is not micro-management or interference.
It is, in fact, this council's responsibility. Experienced
(can't hear) despite what business polling showed that these
sorts of policies do not deter investment. they merely pressed
it into certain channels. To the degree that they do deter
investment they are of course deterring the kinds of companies
we don't want because they are not meeting standards that are
set forth. Finally, I think, in a policy like this, we are not
marketing a community but we are charting a future for
economic growth and development. And so this policy, although
it necessarily takes the interests and the incentives and
disincentives pertaining to investors seriously, it is not
really a policy by and for business interest. It is by and for
the entire community. And I applaud the council because I
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think this draft takes that mission very seriously. Thank you.
Horow/ Anyone else care to address council on this? I appreciate
you taking the time to come out.
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Page 11
ITEM NO. 7 -
ITEM NO. 8 -
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ADOPTING "ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
POLICIES, STRATEGIES, AND ACTIONS FOR THE CITY OF IOWA
CITY."
Comment: See previous item.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF VACANCIES.
Previously announced vacancies.
(1)
Historic Preservation Commission - One vacancy for a
Summit Street representative to fill an unexpired term
ending March 29, 1998. (John Shaw resigned.) (¢
females and 2 males presently serving on the Com-
mission.) This appointment will be made at the
September 26, 1995, meeting of the City Council.
Current vacancies.
ITEM NO. 9 -
(2)
Riverfront and Natural Areas Commission - Two
vacancies for three-year terms ending December 1,
1998. (Terms of Jessica Neary and Richard Hoppin
end.) (4 females and 5 males currently serving on the
Commission.) These appdintments will be made at
the October 10, 1995, meeting of the City Council.
CONSIDER RESOLUTION APPROVING THE BY-LAWS OF THE IOWA
CITY HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
Comment: The by-laws for this Commission have been approved by the
Rules Committee pending the clarification of an item regarding the
al~pointment of a Council representative to the Commission. Council is
making inaugural appointments to this Commission under Item No. 10
on this agenda.
Action:
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ITEM NO. 7
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ~DOPTING "ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT POLICIESt STRATEGIESt AND ACTIONS FOR
THE CITY OF IOWA CITY."
Horow/ Moved by Pigott, seconded by Throg. Any discussion?
Lehman/ Sue, I think that probably there is no one sitting here
that agrees with every single word and the way we did it. I
think conceptually we are trying to tell the City of Iowa City
and the people who live here and potential investors that we
want to be a friendly environment for good development to take
place. This is just to be a statement of philosophy and
hopefully it can counteract somewhat the 68% that view us as
anti-business. I don't think we really are but I think that
sometime we come off as appearing that way. I think this is
just a first step. It is a positive step. True, it obviously
isn't perfect. It will be changed and I hope it becomes kind
of a living sort of policy. As times change we can change this
and I am very happy to support this as a positive action.
Horow/ Anyone else care to come up?
Pigott/ I think the perception that this council is anti-business
and not probusiness and doesn't want to be proactive about it
through these policies is a sadly mistaken perception and
perhaps a group of people, a wide variety of people and a
narrow group of people support or believe that. But I think we
could tick off any number of instances over the last two years
where this council has been very active, proactive, in the
role of the city in this community. I can think of a couple
right off the top of my head very easily that come up. Many of
the annexations in town that helped us promote businesses by
developing. Didn't we just pass an annexation tonight or have
been talking about it for several weeks now to help develop an
auto dealership on the southwest corner of town. Just last
year we worked on a vision for our future for the Near South
Side commercial development of our d.t. While it wasn't one
way, in the discussion of that I think it was a very (can't
hear) and very probusiness development. I think that what I
like about this vision is it is probusiness and proactive and
most important, it includes the citizens. I think that vision
statements like this should include the citizens and we
shouldn't be scared to include them in our consideration.
Ernie, you are right, maybe this manifesto will help us
counter the terrible wrong impression that this council has
been by any stretch of the imagination.
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Horow/ Thank you very much. Anyone else care to make a statement?
Throg/ I would like to praise the other folks on the council for
working so well together. It was a pretty impressive
performance. I think we should feel very good about it. It is
difficult and anybody who say our previous council knows there
were touchy moments but it went quite well. And so I praise
the quality myself. I would also like to point out a few things
in the policy. One is that the Preamble states, among other
things, that as a matter of policy, we seek to promote a
quality of life that is ecological sustainable. I think that
is not trivial. We need to do that and we had better get on
with ito Secondly, the Policy #6 contains a few elements that
are pretty important, one of which has to do with
infrastructure which basically says there are moments when the
city would assume a portion of development costs for
infrastructure having to do with particular J. ndustrial
development but that that wouldn't always occur depending on
what the nature of investment. And another factor is on again
Policy 6, Strategy B, Action 1 where, as Bruno said, we intend
to create an ad hoc committee consisting of diverse
organizations that would designate targeted industries and
develop criteria to be used when the city considers granting
or participating incentives. Those are important steps I think
and I echo something that Colin Gordon said having to do with
the fact that we want to have an economic development policy
that represents desires, hopes, aspirations and so on for the
people of the city in all of its diversity. That is very good.
And the last thing I would like to point to is that Strategy
B, Action 1 also contains a repayment element which means if
a firm does not complete its commitment, then we would ask
that that money be reimbursed as appropriate. So all and all,
I think it is a good policy and I am very happy to support it
and congratulate everybody for their work.
Horow/ I think that we have worked long over the past oh couple of
years. I think we have worked way to long on this and it has
been a long time (can't hear) and I am glad that we have
finally come through with this and perhaps as John has said we
will now walk the talk. It is high time we actually took some
positive appearances, positive actions and got more involved
with the business industry in the community. I think all of us
have a lot to learn from what we have written here and what is
going on out there and what is not going out there. So I would
appreciate as much input from the Chamber and from ICAD and we
will put more input into it. Thank you very much. Roll call-
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Kubby/ I would like to (can't hear). Part of it is a recent
historic perspective of when in the recent past ICAD has done
its job of recruiting businesses and there has been some
questions about the whole process or about the lack of
direction and it was kind of conscious policy direction of
council to say that the role of economic development for the
city is going to be a very very downplay one and that ICAD and
the Chamber's purpose is to take on that role and that in
living out that de-emphasized emphasis of the city found that
we needed to play a slightly higher role in terms of giving
more clear direction to ICAD. So it was something that we need
to work on. It wasn't appropriate to just say no, ICAD, we
don't like what you are doing. That is not fair to them. We
needed to look in house and say what is it that we want from
them. We needed to give them direction and so that where a lot
of this discussion came from and I think it is an important
step that we have taken and it is definitely just a first
step. I mean there are lots of strategies, actions and
actually it is not attached to this, I don't think, but there
was a plan of what was going to happen next year attached to
this so that we saw in the next FY what was going to happen in
the short term after passing this. I guess I would like to
have that, whenever this goes out to people, to have that
action or the next new work program on these issues attached
to it. There are a couple of-I agree with Colin about the
order of the policies. I meant to bring that up last night. I
had it on a little note but it didn't seem as important as
talking through the issues and at this point I don't think I
am interested in suggesting what the order should be but we
will kind of think about that because I think this will be a
very dynamic document and if we need to change and evolve and
that is actually built into the document in one of the
strategies or one of the actions, I can't remember where.
There will be periodic review of the document. We will see
what has actually come about that is different because of this
document and what hasn't and use that as feedback. There is a
change I would like to the changes we made last night. I think
there was an overt omission on page 7. Not an overt one I-It
shouldn't be left unnoticed. In the list of organizations that
says, "Through creation of an ad hoc committee consisting of
diverse organizations" and then in parenthesis it describes
those organizations. It says "industries, labor, citizen and
environmental groups, University of Iowa and others." But what
isn't in there that needs to be in there is economic
development organizations meaning ICAD, Chamber of Commerce,
the Convention of Visitors Bureau and that category of
organizations that is doing this work on a day to day basis I
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would like to move that we-
Horow/ Okay.
Throg/ It was sort of understood that they were included.
Nov/ That we had them included in another sentence somewhere but I
can't find it right now.
Kubby/ Well, it seems important to me that economic development
organizations be specifically mentioned as part of that
committee and I would like to move that economic organizations
be added to that section.
Horow/ Is there a second?
Pigott/ Yeah, I would second that.
Kubby/ It was intended to be an amendment.
Horow/ Moved by Kubby, seconded by Pigott, to include the words
economic development organizations under Policy 6, Strategy B,
Action 1, third line down. Any discussion on this? All those
in favor signify by saying aye (ayes).
Kubby/ The other thing that I think some people may be concerned
about is that if we implement many of these things that we are
at a competitive disadvantage to those communities adjacent to
us that are in our region and I know that we think about
economic development in a regional way. I know that we
understand and agree that that is how ICAD works. That that is
how the Chambers actually work and that I think we need to go
out and promote these concepts to our neighbors in a very
active way and that should be part of the promoting public
awareness of the role of this. And if we believe part of that
role is some of these items that we need to be vocal about it.
Take a larger role ourselves as individuals as well as
institution (can't hear). And my last comment is that really
whenever the word financial incentives appear in here, in my
mind I think public assistance and I don't read that in a
negative way. We have lots of programs for public assistance
where the community comes together and pools their resources
and directs them in a certain way. That is a positive thing
and we are talking about is targeting where that public
resource or that public assistance happens and I would prefer
that language although financial incentives is quite
acceptable or it is not objectionable. I would prefer the term
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public assistance because I think it is more appropriate. But
what this does for me as an individual council member and
member of my community is make me more excited about these
issues. It makes me want to get more involved in this area of
the vitality of our co~uunity and so look for that.
Horow/ Any more discussion?
Nov/
I think we pretty well have said it but I would like to say
that when we said Policy 1, Policy 2 we are not necessarily
saying priority 1, priority 2. We may choose to act on Policy
5 before Policy 1 if we get to point of acting and setting
criteria.
Kubby/ But your structure can evoke value.
Nov/ I just felt that they didn't in this case.
Horow/ Roll call-
Baker/ Sue-
Horow/ Larry- I guess what I am feeling is that we need to not talk
about this document and actually do something with it. And so-
Kubby/ I think it is appropriate for people to speak their peace-
Horow/ Larry, go right ahead.
Baker/ Thanks, Susan.
Horow/ You are welcome.
Baker/ Um, I hadn't intended on talking on this particular issue
because I knew most of the points would be covered by other
very competent articulate council members. But two things
jumped out at me. One, I forget who used the phrase historic
context or historical record and then connected with John's
statement about the survey on public perception of council's
attitude and I understand where this comes form. I disagree
with it. This 68% serious impediment attitude of city
councilors in economic development. I understand it. I think
I disagree with it. But what is interesting to me is that
historically I look back 10-12 years ago when I just got
involved in city politics on a much more, I am going to use
the phrase but I hate it, a much more conservative council.
And event hen one of the complaints against that particular
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council was that it was not probusiness enough. I mean they
passed the package of whatever was necessary but there was
still a perception that the city was overregulated and
unenthusiastic about economic development years ago. It is not
unique to this present council. What is more interesting to me
is that looking back and looking at this particular council,
this group of people, is the most diverse group of people we
have probably had on the city council in 15 years at least and
that is far as my memory goes. But that is a reflection of
this community. If there is not a compelling consensus to
these sort of tunnel vision pro-development I think that that
is the perception of us that is a reflection of this community
and part of that comes from the fact that we are a community
blessed by a large public institution that is the engine
driving our development and a great number of people
associated with that public institution do not necessarily see
the direct connection between the fact that outside of an
environment like Iowa City the thing that provides our quality
of living is a business community state wide, nation wide,
that allows us many of the comforts that we have here in this
conumunity. So, when Jim talks about what we went through last
night and how pleased he was with our cooperation. That is a
reflection of his community. This is not a document that is
anti-business or it does not give a blank check to business
development. But it is a document that I think reflects the
real concerns of this community and that is something that we
carl be proud of and that we all ought to work to implement the
goals of this document and with that, thank you.
Kubby/ It is not a matter of being probusiness or anti-business. It
is about what is the best thing for this community and it
means a whole range of things. So I have a hard time thinking
about myself or this document or this body as being
probusiness or anti-business. It is what is best for this
community.
Baker/ I think that is what I tried to say-
Horow/ Larry-
Baker/ The consensus that we have come to is this is good for the
community.
Nov/
If your memory goes back far enough, think about urban
renewal. Anybody who remembers that knows how controversial a
council and a business community can be.
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Horow/ On that note I would like to take a roll call- (yes). Great,
our economic development policy.
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ITEM NO.
CONSIDER RESOLUTION APPROVING THE BY-LAWS OF THE
IOWA CITY HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
COMMISSION.
Horow/ Moved by Nov, seconded by Baker. Discussion. Council
considered the bylaws last evening and have made the changes
(can't hear). Any further discussion? Roll call- (yes).
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August 29, 1995
Page 12
ITEM NO. 10 -
ITEM NO. 11-
CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS.
Consider appointments to the Housing and Community
Development C(Jmmission:
(1) Three vacancies for one-year terms ending September
1, 1996,
Action', ~?~1~..) '~.,/Z.4z~'/ ,-~/~? ~' ~ "~
(2)Three vacancies for two-year terms enaing ~eptem~er
I, 1997,
Action: ~ ~~ //~' ~
(3) Three vacancies for three-year terms ending Septem-
ber 1, 1998,
Action: ~ ~1 /¢¢~ ¢~ ~
CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION.
ITEM NO. 12-
REPORT ON ITEMS FROM THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY.
a. City Manager.
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ITEM NO. 11 - CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION.
Horow/ city council Information.
Baker/ Last time I started first I got into trouble so I will make
this very brief. I got new proposals this time. I just have a
series of very quick items. One, in the last statement about
economic development I forgot and I am sorry but I meant to
thank the staff. They did a lion's share of the work and with
the public input and what the staff did was a very good job.
I also want to express my congratulations to NCS for the
contract they just recently received in connection with
economic development. I want to-there was a series of events
the past weekend in which new students at the University of
Iowa did volunteer work all across the community and I want to
thank them for that. I think that is a good introduction for
them to us and us to them. I want to thank Karen for the
inclusion of that memo on sustainable environment and I found
it interesting and wondering if perhaps that it be appropriate
to request that a copy of that be given to verified council
candidates to help understand the concept that we talked about
probably in the campaign. And I want to congratulate Doug
Boothroy for a memo here about the money he is getting for
housing. There is a nothing statement right there. Doug, you
know what I mean. Doug Boothroy is the department head of the
Housing Department and has done an extraordinary job of
getting money for subsidized housing the past few years.
Finally, Madam Mayor, I note with some sense of irony the memo
about parking ramp lighting costs, potentially going up-
Kubby/ Six-fold.
Baker/ I don't think 46 to 313, we are going up 250 something to
330 something. But I was going to ask regardless of this memo,
I was going to ask when that was going to come to us for a
vote because I was going to enjoy voting no on that and just
hammering the rest of you for your refusal to-I am getting
serious here. I want to keep pointing out that when we do
this, if you do it, let's consider generating the money to pay
for the additional yearly cost of those lights. So, Steve, are
we going to get this back soon?
Atkins/ I wouldn't count on it. I don't mean to ruin your- They
have to do a lot more work for us.
Baker/ Okay, thank you, that is all.
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Pigott/ Two short things, Madam Mayor. One is that I will be
running in the upcoming fall classic road race and I will be
turning in a pledge form-
Horow/ You mean the Hospice Road Race?
Pigott/ Yeah, the Hospice Road Race and I will expect you all to
donate large sums of money (can't hear). I hope to run the
half marathon (can't hear). Secondly, I read an interesting
article in N.Y. Times (can't hear) by a fellow named John
Hookenberry. I don't know if any of you know that he was a
reporter for National Public Radio. But he also, and he is a
very excellent reporter. Also he is a wheelchair. He wrote
this article on Friday morning was about life in a wheelchair
and (can't hear) and the great part of getting around New
York. It was perfect timing because on Sunday we had our
Disabilities Awareness Day where there was a great celebration
and I just wanted to say what a wonderful (can't hear). That
is all I had.
Horow/ He had a book out right now.
Pigott/ I just want to thank people who organized Abilities
Awareness Day.
Throg/ I want to pick up with the Abilities Awareness Day and say
that I spent a couple of hours down there Sunday. Oh, what a
wonderful afternoon it was. I mean it was really a sultry day,
wonderful music including by David Moore who spoke to us about
his big water bill a couple of weeks ago. My friend Tom Davey
and many others and people enjoying cool drinks in front of
the Java House and Blimpies and I am also thinking about the
Friday Night Concert Series where I think it was Big Dog on
Skis for the last concert of the season and I can recall
walking above the fountain looking over a sea of about 500-
1,000 people and seeing how much they were enjoying that music
and place. It was really quite a stunning evening. And then
later on that night or earlier in the day I went in front of
Ginsbergs and listen to Shade of Blue sing to a crowd of about
50 people including some of whom are sitting at the outdoor
cafe and sidewalk cafe in front of Pancheros. So all and all,
those events made me really proud to be a citizen of Iowa City
and to be a member of city council that helps makes some of
these things happen. So, it is a good place.
Horow/ As a matter of fact, next June, there is going to be a
meeting of 300 people, economatrisionists, at the University
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of Iowa and I was talking to organizers in terms of Friday
night- Get them down to the pedestrian mall-
Throg/ What do economatrisions do?
Horow/ They think about future problems that aren't even brought up
yet. They are working- I had better stop right where I am
right now. Naomi-
Nov/ Nothing.
Horow/ Boy, am I going to get it when Joel gets home.
Kubby/ Two things. We started out silurian pumping, out test
pumping, and I hope we will get updates as soon as they are
available.
Arkins/ It will be awhile.
Kubby/ Secondly, the creek by my house is dry. It is so dry that a
dog walks on it and there are no foot prints. The dog rolls
around in it and there is no mud on the dog and it is kind of
scary because it means that it is so dry. But it is also an
opportunity for people who live next to creeks to clean up
without as much hassle. So, you know, my neighbor across the
creek, Craig Schrock, did a great job taking out concrete,
plastic, just all sorts of weird stuff that you can't really
see or get to as easily when there is water in the creek. So
I encourage you to use this dryness as an opportunity to make
the clean up faster and easier if you live next door to one.
That is all.
Lehman/ (Can't hear) I got a couple of things. I received a phone
call from Joe Fowler today. As you recall, about a year ago we
talked about the possibility of putting meters in the loading
zones, particularly the commercial ones where people really
don't read the word commercial and get $5.00 tickets. It makes
them very frustrated. Joe has indicated that he favors this
because from an enforcement standpoint he doesn't have to go
along chalking tires or whatever. And he needs to know from us
if we still are interested in doing it. Because without our
action nothing is going to happen.
Nov/ Are you talking about 15 minute meters?
Lehman/ I don't know, 15 or 30. I am not sure.
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Atkins/ Official 30 minute loading zones as I recall. I don't know
what Joe's thinking was but metering it was the issue.
Kubby/ I think we need to be reminded of the issue and schedule it
for discussion.
Lehman/ I think-
Nov/ Let's schedule it with a list of locations and available
meters and that sort of thing.
Lehman/ Also I asked, I was at a JCCOG meeting, I ask and talked to
I guess the Finance Director from Cedar Rapids. He indicated
to me that they have a provision in their code that comes with
bids that they give credit for local contractors and local
providers of service. In fact they have a leeway of up to 5%.
Now, in a few minutes we are going to let a contract and
excess of $500,000. If we had this sort of policy, that
contract would have stayed in Iowa City. That money would have
been circulating in Iowa City with Iowa City contractors and
Iowa City workers. Now I am sure there are positive and there
are minuses in this and I would like us to ask Steve to give
us a report, not terribly detailed, but just what are some of
the pluses and minuses of this and is this something that we
have for Iowa City.
Kubby/ It is important that we have that list.
Nov/ We considered this for a while a couple of years ago and then
decided it wasn't something that we were going to do. It is
okay to revise the memo.
Arkins/ I will prepare a report for you.
Horow/ Anything else?
Lehman/ That is it.
Horow/ I have been representing, working with the CVB and the ICAD,
on the upcoming Midwest U.S. Japan Economic Conference on
September 11-14. I just decided that the tours and activities
that were going on before the conference that are going to
take place on Sunday September 10 are focusing primarily on
(Can't hear) And I felt that well, that was perfectly all
right, I would like to see something focus on Iowa City where
if there was investment (can't hear) their homes, people would
be interested in Iowa City as well. So, to make a long story
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short, Iowa City is going to have a tour on Sunday, September
10. It will start up on Templin Road at the home of Chris Roy,
hosta gardens and work its way down through the north end,
down Dodge Street, across Burlington, down to Summit over to
Longfellow where during lunch the visitors and there will be
about 20 Japanese visitors will be observing the teaching of
Japanese at Longfellow School. This is being assisted by the
parents of the students who are taking Japanese and New
Pioneer is providing a lunch for us. They are then coming down
over Walnut and I am mentioning the route because I am asking
our citizens along this route to pick up the weeks in your
sidewalk, spruce the place up a tad. They are going down then
Kirkwood Avenue to my home where they are opening a home to
show what a home looks like, the number of bedrooms, the
square feet, the kitchen, the whatever, and then into the
backyard in both a shade and sun garden. And then we are going
through my backyard to the neighbors backyard, down their
driveway, down to Pickard Street to Friendly which is nestled
with Moffit homes down there. The tour bus will then pick them
up down there and take them out Kirkwood, up Clinton to the
Old Capitol and then over Burlington, up through the
University complex and out. A fast tour but it is very
exciting and a lot of enthusiasm has been generated. The whole
city is essentially to please go watch, be kind to the
visitors, be friendly, and they usually are. The University
will be hosting them at Oakdale. But this is the coo for the
State of Iowa to hold this conference, number one, and to the
economic corridor between cedar Rapids and Iowa City is even
a bigger coo. So congratulations on the people who were
actually able to pull this off. But stay in touch with those
of us who are still working. And I would also like to give
kudos to our media crew and the Water Division. Today, on
Channel 4, I happen to watch H20, the Story of Water. Our
water Division has done an excellent program on explaining
what we do with the water, where the charges are, how they can
be adjusted. The media has done an excellent job on this. The
music is weird. But I finally realized it was making me think
about using water and I assume this is what they wanted me to
do. Otherwise- You are to be congratulated, our Media
Department, of pulling this one off.
Nov/ Speaking of water, did you read of Winterset last week?
Horow/ Yes, I did. Winterset-
Nov/ If we are talking about real water bills, then go to
Winterset.
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Horow/ Unfortunately we will all be faced with this. Tomorrow I
have a meeting in Des Moines, the Local Government
Environmental Resource Council, and the legislature, as you
know, can maintain (can't hear) to make sure the Environmental
Protection Commission does not come into the state and do the
enforcement of the Clean Water Act. The state legislature has
said to the DNR, you must hire more people, you must increase
the fees and so, we, the Local Government Environmental
Resource Council, lovingly know as LGERC, has been working on
a formula to essentially done ourselves for more money. So,
everyone's water is going to be going up, not just in Iowa
City but all over Iowa. Public water systems are many. Smaller
ones are the ones primarily that need the work but
unfortunately the larger ones are going to share the burden of
paying for those smaller water systems until we come to a
point where we think regionally coalesce other water systems.
It is cheaper to produce more water. But Winterset is just the
beginning.
Nov/ The small towns are really facing some huge bills.
Pigott/ You mentioned September 10. If I could just quickly say
that September 10th is also the 4th Annual Bike and Hike and
I just want to let everyone know.
Horow/ I appreciate that. There are some fantastic things going on
September 10.
Nov/ The Coldten House Open House is also (can't hear).
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ITEM NO. 12a- REPORT ON ITEMS FROM THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY.
a. City Manager.
Horow/ Mr. Atkins.
Atkins/ Nothing.
Baker/ Sue, I forgot to ask Steve but we had talked about you
alerting- There is a story in here about the information you
got from the federal government about Iowa City being selected
as a possible test city for financial analysis.
Atkins/ Okay. With the passage of the Unfunded Mandates Act the
president signed, one of the elements is Congress has a
requirement now when they propose any new regulations that
they must seek the advice of and secure information as to what
the actual cost would be of the proposed mandate. In doing
that the Congressional Budget Office contacted the National
League of cities. The National League of cities then in turn
contacted the State Municipal Leagues. In our case the Iowa
League of Cities. What Congress, through the Congressional
Budget Office has chosen to do is they are going to select 36
cities and school districts throughout the United States and
as legislation is proposed by Congress, they will contact this
network of cities and school districts and ask for an analysis
of what this particular law might actually cost the local
government and as of the other day we were asked to
participate and I agreed. So, Iowa City will be one of those
36 communities.
Baker/ 36 out of the entire country.
Arkins/ Entire country.
Throg/ Very good job, Steve.
Baker/ There be some sort of press release or information. The
public out to know.
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b. City Attorney.
ITEM NO, 13 -
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ITEM NO, 14 -
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND
THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST AN IOWA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPOR-
TATION FUNDING AGREEMENT FOR THE RECONSTRUCTION OF
MELROSE AVENUE FROM WEST HIGH SCHOOL TO DEER CREEK
ROAD.
Comment: This agreement provides for an 80% Federal / 20% City
funding split up to a maximum amount in Federal funds of 91,720,000.
Federal funds will be administered by the Iowa Department of Transpor-
tation. The project involves reconstructing and widening of Melrose
Avenue from Deer Creek Road easterly through the intersection at the
West High School entrance. The preliminary estimated construction
cost is 92,480,000. The local share of this project will be funded with
General Obligation Bond proceeds and Road Use Tax revenues.
Action:
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION FOR THE MAIDEN LANE IMPROVEMENT
PROJECT ADOPTING AND LEVYING FINAL SCHEDULE OF ASSESS-
MENTS, AND PROVIDING FOR THE PAYMENT THEREOF,
Comment: This is the special assessment paving and sanitary sewer
portion of the Maiden Lane Improvements. The amount to be assessed
to property owners is 9254,621.66, which represents a portion of the
construction, engineering, legal and administrative costs. The total
assessment has been reduced by 945,000 to reflect 50% of the
anticipated parking meter revenues over the next ten (10) years which
represents the City's financial commitment to the project.
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ITEM NO. 13 -
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TEEMAYOR TO SIGN
AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST i~N IOWA DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION FUNDING AGREEMENT FOR THE
RECONSTRUCTION OF MELROSE AVENUE FROM WEST HIGH
SCHOOL TO DEER CREEK ROAD.
Horow/ Moved by Baker, seconded by Throg. Discussion.
Kubby/ I think we need to read again that this is the widening of
Melrose from Dear Creek through the intersection of West High
School entrance area.
Nov/ The far west end.
Horow/ Okay, roll call- (yes).
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ITEM NO. 14 -
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION FOR THE MAIDEN LANE
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT ADOPTING AND LEVYING FINAL
SCHEDULE OF ASSESSMENTS~ AND PROVIDING FOR THE
PAYMENT THEREOF.
Horow/ Moved by Kubby, seconded by Pigott. Discussion.
Kubby/ Is the bridge part of the paving and sanitary sewer costs or
is that separate?
Rick Fosse/ That was a separate project paid entirely by the city
and is not a part of this assessment.
Horow/ Any further discussion? Roll call- (yes).
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ITEM NO. 15 -
~5- ~.
ITEN] NO, 16 -
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT AND AUTHORIZ-
ING MAYOR TO SIGN AND CITY CLERK TO ATTEST CONTRACT FOR
THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE IOWA CITY LANDFILL LEACHATE LIFT
STATION CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
Comment: This project will provide a new lift station with improved
capacity to pump leachate from the landfill to the wastewater treatment
plant for treatment. Funding will be provided by landfill revenues. The
bid opening was August 22, 1 995, and following bids received:
SuEberger Excavating, Inc., Muscatine, IA
Maxwell Construction Co., Iowa City, IA
Denver Construction Co., Denver, IA
Engineer's estimate
553,513.00
565,681.00
592,908.00
590,000.00
Public Works and Engineering recommend that the contract be awarded
to Sulzberger Excavating, Inc. of Muscatine, IA.
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE FILING OF AN APPLICA-
TION WITH THE IOWA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR
STATEWIDE TRANSPORTATION ENHANCEI~IENT FUNDS.
Comment: This resolution authorizes filing of an application for
Statewide Transportation Enhancement Funds to design and construct
a segment of the Iowa River Corridor Trail from Highway 6 to Napoleon
Park. The City also commits to maintain the facility for a minimum of
20 years if funding is approved. The estimated cost of the project is
9600,000. Transportation enhancement funds require a minimum 20%
local match. The resulting breakdown of funding would .be t~480,000
transportation enhancement and $1 20,000 local match.
Action:
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ITEM NO, 17 -
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION OF INTENT TO CONVEY, BY QUIT CLAIM
DEED, CITY-OWNED PROPERTY IN SAINT MATTHIAS ADDITION
ABUTTING ROBERTS HOME TOWN DAIRY PROPERTY TO ROBERTS
HOME TOWN DAIRY AND SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING THEREON FOR
SEPTEMBER 12, 1995.
ITEM NO. 18 -
Comment: Roberts Home Town Dairy has offered to purchase 433.83
square feet of vacant, landlocked, city-owned property at a price of
$6.00 per square foot for a total sum of ~2,603.OO abutting their dairy
processing facility at Dodge Street and Prairie du Chien Road, This
purchase would provide the space needed to erect a proposed receiv-
ing/storage building for the diary processing facility.
CONSIDER RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO PLACE THE
QUE-~"'T~ON OF A PRESIDENTIAL ADVISORY BALLOT ("STRAW [
BEFORE~C..ITIZENRY AND VOTERS OF IOWA CITY, IO~/-A~ [r THE
GENERAL ClTY~.,.CTION OF NOVEMBER 7, 1995,~D'BE CON?UCT-
ED AS A SEPARA~i~-.~OLUNTARY AND I=FICIAL ADVISORY
BALLOT IN COOPERATI~THE JC COUNTY AUDITOR,
Comment: At the City Council of August 15, 1995, Council
directed staff to prepare a res for a special straw vote or
advisory ballot presidenti~ to be co'~ted at the ~ame time
as the regular City el~ of November 7, 1~ Two proposed
resolutions are' ..J~,_e.d..!n the packet. Additional inf~q.~tion will be
available at ~y s work session concerning the two veins. The
list of in each version are recommend de for incl~jsion by
The final decision for ballot inclusion will be made by the City
by adding specific names based on certain criteria, or removing
names based on stated criteria.
Action:
City of Iowa City
MEMORANDUM
Date:
To:
From:
Re:
August 29, 1 995
City Clerk
Linda Newman Woito
Amended Agenda Item #18
CONSIDER RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE JOHNSON COUNTY AUDITOR TO PLACE
THE QUESTION OF A PRESIDENTIAL ADVISORY BALLOT BEFORE THE QUALIFIED
ELECTORS OF IOWA CITY, IOWA AS A PUBLIC MEASURE, TO BE VOTED UPON AT
THE GENERAL CITY ELECTION OF NOVEMBER 7, 1995.
Comment: At the City Council meeting of August 15, 1995, Council directed staff
to prepare a resolution calling for a special straw vote or advisory ballot presidential
election, to be conducted at the same time as the regular City election of November
7, 1995. After discussion, a proposed resolution is included in the packet. The list
of candidates in this version is recommended for inclusion by CityVote. The final
decision for ballot inclusion will be made by the City Council by adding specific names
based on certain criteria, or removing names based on stated criteria.
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ITF-~ NO. 28 -
CONSIDleR RESOLUTION DIRECTIN~ THE CITY CLERK TO
PLACE THE QUESTION OF A PRESIDENTI~J~ ADVISORY
BALLOT ("STI~AW POLL") BEFORE THE CITIZENRY AND
VOTERS OF IOWA CITY~ IOWA AT THE GENERAL CITY
ELECTION OF NOVEMBER ?, 1995, TO BE CONDUCTED AS A
SEPAR~TE~ VOLUNTARY AND UNOFFICIAL ADVISORY BALLOT
II~ COOPERATION WITH THE JOHNSON COUNTY AUDITOR.
Horow/ Moved by Baker, seconded by Throg. Discussion.
Baker/ How do you want to approach this? I don't think we need to
talk an hour on it but probably some background would be
appropriate. And if you don't mind, I will certainly condense
everything I said last night.
Horow/ That would be appreciated. We are timing you, Larry.
Baker/ Okay, notice there are one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven members of the press, two members of the public and the
staff here and we've killed their deadlines by having it after
10:00.
Horow/ Talk already.
Pigott/ Gee, do you want to make it tomorrow?
Baker/ No hurry, this is a record for us, come on. There are, there
have been in the last week or so, I think some
misunderstandings and even in some cases maybe just
misinformation about this particular issue. I can very briefly
go back and say how it started. And if the CityVote people had
contacted us a year ago, much of the compressed debate that
we're going through now could be stretched out and clarity
could be added to a lot of different things. But about three
weeks ago, I noticed a Newsweek magazine and that old
political co-worker, former Irvine, California mayor, Larry
Agran who's in charge of a group called CityVote. It's a three
year project and what Agran had put together was a
presidential advisory ballot, straw poll ballot, on the
ballots of selected cities across the country ranging in
population from 7,000 to 600,000. And his purpose was very
clear and the purpose of his organization was that most people
in America live in urban areas and very often political
campaigns do not focus on the issues relevant to those
populations. And this was an effort to bring together
candidates with the public and make a connection and let the
public look at people's positions and voice their sentiments
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about how they stood. Now in particular, if you look at Iowa
City, like most other cities in America, we do have a
connection with the federal government. We recently received
a memo from the city manager outlining possible, probable, or
inevitable cuts in our budget based upon decisions made by the
federal government. Cuts that would effect our transit system,
our housing rehabilitation program, our subsidized housing
program, and our CDBG program. And that is typical across the
country so it does make a difference who is in office at the
federal level. I looked at that proposal and thought also that
it was a way to generate more interest in local elections
which we have historically talked about being lowly or a low
participation. And that is when I brought it to the council.
As soon as I was able to contact Mr. Agran, get some more
details, I brought it to the council. Um, one of the most
serious misunderstandings that developed very quickly was that
this was a straw poll of only one particular parties
candidates. It never was. It never was intended to be and it
was always include major party candidates announced,
independents announce, and probably independents or party
candidates based upon criteria that the CityVote people put
together. Now there are reasonable questions to be raised
about this project. Questions about how does it affect a local
turnout? What is the connection between a presidential straw
poll and city business? In Iowa, in particular, how does it
affect or does it have a relationship to our status as a
caucus state? Those are all reasonable questions and I could
certainly talk about them tonight if you want to but one of
the things that I would suggest is that somebody out there,
whether it is the press, whether it is people in Public Access
Television, local other news outlets-I know one magazine in
particular is doing a long story and they are to be
congratulated because they are doing a lot of leg work on this
and trying to get out to the public as much information as
possible. We could talk about those particular questions if
necessary but I would hope that basically that we could agree
on this point that Iowa City has the right to determine what
its ballot questions ought to be. We have been told by the
State Attorney General, the State Elections office, the County
Auditor, the County Attorney that indeed the city has not
authority for such a ballot. It has never been tested in court
as far as I know. It is an Attorney General's interpretation
of what we can or cannot do based upon our Charter, based upon
our state election laws. All across the country, however,
other communities either through enabling legislation or
through cooperation with election officials are able to
participate in this project. I feel very strongly that people
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of this community through their elected representatives or
through citizen signature initiative petition process, either
one, have the right to determine what goes on our ballot. Now
we can make mistakes, we can make silly choices in the long
run, we can do all sorts of things wrong but we ought to be
very clear that we have the right to do that. And I would hope
that the council would adopt this measure tonight. We can
discuss the particular names on it. But I would hope that
council would adopt this particular measure tonight saying
this is our position, we believe this, and if the County
Auditor or State Attorney General disagree they will go on
record. They have said this informally. I think they are quite
prepared to do it formally and once that happens we can come
back together again and talk about how far you want to pursue
this in this forum and any other forum. The County Auditor, to
his credit, has offered alternatives and we can talk about
those alternatives in general. But at this moment I think we
ought to proceed with this resolution as our first choice and
then discuss alternatives when necessary.
Horow/ Any other discussion?
Lehman/ Yes, I concur with you Larry. I guess we have talked about
this before. If, in fact, this is something that will enhance
voter turnout for our council election, I think it is
legitimate. On the other hand, if the County Auditor and State
Attorney General, whatever, deems this is not legal, I would
not favor spending one nickel of the city's money pursuing it
any further.
Baker/ Keep in mind that we haven't spent a nickel.
Lehman/ No, I know that.
Kubby/ Well, we have spent staff time which is money.
Baker/ But we did that discussing whether or not to give the
Jaycees $1,000 for fireworks. We spent staff time doing that,
too. I mean we spend staff time all of the time and Ernie, the
question of is it a legitimate city expense is a key question
and I think we will have to talk about that.
Nov/
I had an interesting phone call. A very quiet gentle lady who
protested this idea based on the fact that presidential
elections are partisans and city elections are non-partisan
and combining the two of them is not good for the reputation
of the city and maintaining our non-partisan status. And I
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felt she had a legitimate concern and this kind of concern, if
it were truly on the ballot, would be very difficult.
Baker/ I can certainly respond to that but I don't know that-
Horow/ I mean I feel like responding that that-because of our non-
partisan government that we are so proud of that we would have
better profile in having this particular straw poll. It
certainly would be better than what our sister city did in
tel-ms of recent straw poll where people were truoked in who
did not preside there.
Nov/ I have to say that had nothing to do with the city government.
That was a political party-
Horow/ No, it does reflect on the city. It reflects on the city and
I think I think the people who would be taking part in this
because obviously they can only vote if they (can't hear). It
was very interesting the way that person would take this. I
would take this in the opposite way.
Nov/
This was a person who felt strongly that non-partisan
government and partisan government should not be intermingled
and I said okay, I will bring this up for discussion.
Baker/ I want to emphasize again this is an advisory ballot. It is
not binding in the sense we do not choose these people. This
is an expression of sentiment at this time and I would again,
as I was talking last night, you don't just do this in a
vacuum. It is in the context of a debate about this
relationship between federal and local governments. And there
are all sorts of things we could have done or might still be
able to do to generate that sort of discussion.
Nov/
And I understand all that. I also understand that it could be
a list of federal finance issues rather than people. All kinds
of things are potentially a city concern and particularly a
city government concern which may not be partisan.
Baker/ Again, the list is everybody that we can think of that is
appropriate for this. It is not just parties.
Nov/
And the main reason that we should consider voting on this
kind of thing is the fact that somebody told us that we aren't
allowed to do it and the fact that a city government with a
Charter has been told that they are not allowed to put
something on the ballot is a bit disturbing.
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Baker/ To sort of explain the Attorney General's position is unless
it is specifically written into your Charter, you don't have
the authority. It is not prohibited so much as authorized and
that is a key difference.
Nov/ Well, the state law authorizes the following items for a city
election and it is a very narrow list.
Horow/ Any other discussion? Roll call-
Throg/ Well, I thought I heard Karen.
Nov/ You did. I heard Karen wanted to talk also.
Kubby/ Yeah, I do and for me the whole issue has shifted because it
has been told to us that it won't be accepted by the County
Auditor. It won't be seen as legal. So, for me, what we are
really talking about is not about CityVote or the issues
around CityVote. We are talking about a Home Rule question and
there are lots of Home Rule battles to be fought in the State
of Iowa and there are lots of local ways because the original
intent of all of this was to say let's increase participation
in local elections and there are many ways to do that. I guess
if circumstances were different I would prefer to say the
value behind CityVote is increasing local turnout and then to
say what are ways the city can get involved in doing that
although I think it is kind of challenging when there are a
majority of council seats that are going to be filled to have
the city be involved. But there are lots of things that city
can do that are very creative and that I am not sure, for me,
I am hearing people say not just Ernie but last night I heard
other people saying I don't want to spend any money or more
staff time on this once we are told officially no. So I think
it is kind of a half baked way to deal with this issue and our
City Attorney has told us that this is kind of a weak legal
argument using this strategy. That there is another way that
our legal argument to get to this same battle about Home Rule
and that is encouraging the community to do a citizen
initiative. That is a lot more strenuous to make to get it on
the ballot and I just-I just don't feel like-We know that we
are going to get rejected. We-I know that there is some
sentiment on council to not spend money on this once we are
told no. I just don't understand why we should go through this
process. I am, at this point, not supportive of the resolution
even though I agree with the Home Rule issue. I think there
are lots of them to fight and different ways to go about it.
This doesn't seem very strong to me.
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Lehman/ A lot like the pesticide ordinance.
Kubby/ To beat the date, the deadline.
Baker/ Let me see if I understand your concerns, Karen. Is the
concern with the conflict between the city and state over Home
Rule or is it concern about even if this were legal concern
that the CityVote Project is inappropriate? Is that clear?
Kubby/ I don't know exactly how I feel about CityVote. I think it
is a really complicated thing and actually when it says at the
meeting of August 15 that council directed staff to prepare a
resolution, I didn't know that I was agreeing to that when I
said yeah, I am interested in this idea. And so, I think the
issue is more complicated than it seems and that there is a
lot of community sentiment out there that I have received over
the past two weeks from people that I don't normally interact
with. It is not my circle of friends or people that I work
with saying straw poll, I am not interested. And so that made
it seem more complicated to me because my gut reaction was of
course put something on the ballot to let people talk about
it. So, I don't know how I come down specifically on City
Vote. I do have some concern about-The intent I agree with.
Getting more people, that is what I do all of the time is to
try to get people involved. But it seems a little
contradictory to have national people and national campaigns
coming in to convince people to vote a certain way in a straw
poll to get people involved who have-That whole process has
taken away focus on local issues by local people who we are
going to be electing. So it really-I don't know what my
thoughts are in conclusion of that. But those are the kinds of
thoughts that time and more discussion might help me sort out.
But then I realized last night that the real issue for me in
front of us at this moment is not about putting CityVote on
the ballot in the form that was presented to us. It is a
shift-the issue has shifted for me.
Baker/ I do remember something-I
first response was. Let's
voter turnout.
think this is what you said, your
go for it, anything to increase
Kubby/ Right and I guess-because our normal process is you bring an
idea to council. Then a majority of people interested in
thinking and talking about it. We have it at an informal
meeting and then we decide if we are going to do something
official. Even though I made those statements and I don't
disagree that I made them, you say things and sometimes you
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don't think before you speak and I didn't know that I was
saying I am ready to do this officially.
Baker/ And sure, in an ideal situation we would have had much
longer to do this. But we did have-When I saw the Newsweek
article a very narrow time constraints and that particular
concern about how-when you introduce national issues into a
local environment, how does it affect the local environment
debate is an extremely serious question. It is a question that
I think is not unique to Iowa City, did not certainly
originate here and has been debated at length in the other
cities that have chosen to deliberate this, I mean to
participate in this project. So Like I said, there are very
reasonable responses to a to of these concerns and we can talk
about those at length in other forums in other ways. But this
will indeed generate more interest in people getting to the
polls. And then it places an obligation on the part of the
city government and the city council that the candidates, the
press to make that connection between what are we talking
about in this race. One of the things, regardless of whether
we do the CityVote, one of the things that candidates have got
to be talking about, is if we lose a million dollars over the
next two or three years, what are you going to do. Are you
going to cut, are you going to increase taxes, you going to
shift things around. What are you going to do?
Kubby/ But that's not the issue for me right now. And it may be
still for most on council because this resolution will not put
CityVote on the ballot. We've been told that. And so if we're
interested in CityVote, we should talk about other ways to
make CityVote happen. But this resolution's intent for me is
to provide the basis for a legal battle about that home rule
question. I think it's, our city attorney's told us it's a
weak position. I'm not interested in.
Baker/ There are degrees of strength on this issue, you now, which
issue do you choose to debate. And I don't want to speak for
Linda.
Nov/ I would like to give Linda a chance to speak however.
' 9
Baker/ Sure. I mean, Linda, do you want to, what's the question.
Woito/ Anybody, yeah, anybody else want to jump in before I do.
Horow/ I guess I would like to jump in and say that I have become
more than luke warm. I have become very very supportive of
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this. I think there is definitely a connection between the
national and the local scene in having those people who
normally would come out just for national candidates be more
aware through the newspapers and the media of the connection
between local candidates and national issues. And I can't
fault that. And I think, we talk about the state being angry
with the feds in terms of primacy, well frankly I'm a little
bit angry with the state for their withholding this ability
for us, for our flexibility. And Karen, I guess I see this,
you know, I recognize your historical ability to protest
whatever it is that you find not acceptable. In my way, I find
this particular aspect of the Charter to how we could
something on the ballot, I accept that. I think putting this
resolution to the test, having it come back, saying you can't
do this-We are challenging-
Kubby/ The City Attorney told us last night that a stronger legal
argument is a citizen initiative so an organization to start
a citizen initiative.
Horow/ Karen, I guess what I'm saying is, this is the first step.
If the because of our steps citizens would take them, then I
would get right behind them. And I guess for me, it is a
positive action on the part of council rather than just
waiting to see what happens. We're making (can't hear).
Throg/ Could I ask a practical question? We have a resolution, so
we can vote it up or down.
Woito/ Correct.
Throg/ Let's say we vote to approve the resolution, and then ask
the auditor to certify the ballot. Are there any down sides to
the fact that he will refuse to certify it? And we
understand that he will refuse to certify it. Are there any
adverse implications associated with it? Are we goin9- to be
hurt in any fashion by a simple act of approving the
resolution and having him refuse to certify the ballot?
Woito/ No, other than the practical of doing something that you
know is going to be futile. Except it won't be entirely futile
because you will have made a statement about what you believe
is a First Amendment right the US Constitution and the Iowa
Constitution to present issues to your electorate at a city
election. And you will be focusing some attention on the First
Amendment and local home rule and home rule authority in our
charter, etc. As opposed to the attorney general and, you
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know, I would like to go through some of my legal thinking,
but.
Throg/ Let me ask you the following question.
Woito/ But in terms of effecting the election, your attempts will
be futile because it will not be placed on the ballot.
Baker/ The other ballot will not be affected.
Woito/ Right.
Throg/ Some other action-
Woito/ So my concerns about protecting the integrity of your city
election are not high. I mean, they aren't raised.
Throg/ I understand. I also understand that the resolution before
us that you changed it when you drafted it for us last night.
You changed it in order to strengthen our hand should we
choose to make the First Amendment case for it.
Woito/ Correct. Yes, I did.
Throg/ Thank you for (can't hear). I guess I'm willing to support
the resolution on those grounds given the fact that there
might be merit in pursuing First Amendment. I do not expect it
to be approved or certified, the ballot certified by Tom
Slockett. And I also would have many more questions to ask
about what we actually will do if anything once we discover
that Slockett can not certify it and then the questions would
have to do with, first of all, whether CityVote or an
approximation of it is, in fact, a good or the best way to
increase participation in local election. And then secondly
what the likely implication might be for made in a local
election here. In other words, what effect would it have on
the attention that council candidates get and on what they
have to talk about, and the attention of what they say. What
effects would it have on the attention given to what they
actually say.
Horow/ Anyone else?
Baker/ I have to answer the first question very quickly. Is this
the best way? No. Is it a good way? Yes. It's the best way
because it's a one time thing. It's not something you can
consistently rely on to increase voter turnout.
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Woito/ Well, there are better ways.
Nov/ There are better ways to increase voter turnout. There's no
question about that. And that's not the basic issue.
Baker/ That's not the basic issue.
Horow/ Any other?
Pigott/ Yeah. I support the CityVote idea. It's interesting that
Attorney General- But one of the thing's that I really like
about it is it brings national campaign's down to the local
level. I understand there's concern about, and I am concerned
about, it affecting the election. I do think there is that
connection between the local election's important. I support
the CityVote because I think it's an important way to get the
candidates to answer some of the concerns the cities have. And
I'm willing to support the resolution on the First Amendment
grounds that Jim mentioned. But beyond that I think we need to
discuss what we'd do once that happens, in terms of not only
what next steps in terms of the CityVote but also what about
a legal challenge. I mean is it worth it. Do we go for it for
long? Those are all questions which are nebulous but in terms
of the cityVote and this resolution (can't hear).
Baker/ One more thing I'd like to say, Bruno said the advantage of
having access to this long, it's an 80 page document put out
by the CityVote people. If we had two copies, I just thought
I'd mail one to Karen, I mentioned to you the other night.
Horow/ I'd appreciate it if you'd read it.
Baker/ Yeah. It's the history. It's the legal, what they consider
the legal background, the legal justifications for it and what
they consider the legal issues. And the benefits to
participating cities. It's a very thorough document. you can
disagree with it, but it's at least their position, a position
which I strongly agree with. And it's available.
Kubby/ So I assume that's what I'll get passed or read at some
point.
Baker/ Marian's got a copy. Linda's got a copy.
Karr/ I've got a copy too.
Woito/ Mine's marked up.
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Baker/ And Tom's has it sitting around back.
Karr/ But I can get copies.
Baker/ So I'd be glad to let you have it when I get it back.
Horow/ Anything further?
Nov/ I'd like to hear if Linda's for or against.
Woito/ Well I think you understand that whatever concerns I might
have about you going ahead and voting on something that there
are a number of questions, legal questions about the
ramifications about it, knowing that it's not going to go
anywhere means that I'm not going, I'm not as concerned about
protecting the integrity of the election, because it will not
be on the ballot. And I think you understand that there are
two ways that you can present a public measure for
consideration on the official ballot. It's either by virtue of
substantive laws such as the library levy. In this case the
only substantive law that you can would be relying on would be
the Iowa Constitution and the First A~mendment to the US
Constitution. Your second basis is the home rule authority
which the Iowa Supreme Court has not yet been asked the
question whether cities can present advisory straw poll
ballots to their electorate. that has yet to be decided by the
Iowa Supreme Court and there's no federal court and there's no
Iowa law prohibiting advisory ballots. And so with that in
mind, I will probably save my discussion for after the refusal
of the county auditor when you come back and decide what you
want to do.
Baker/ It may be that you don't need to pursue that in depth
research of those issues because there may be alternatives
that we can do that are- Again, the important thing is time
right now. If we could resolve this legally get something on
the ballot when, get it on the ballot by November 7, that
would be my first inclination. But if time is a problem and
there are other alternatives, let's work on the alternatives
so we can talk about it.
Horow/ I wanted to ask you something.
W0ito/ The fastest way to get the legal issues narrowed would be to
amend your charter, to provide in the charter for initiative
and referendum for advisory ballots.
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Baker/ As far as this particular election?
Karr/ You don't have time for it.
Horow/ But the CityVote, this is not the first year that this was
voted. Has CityVote been in the process for many years?
Baker/ They've been working on it for three years. This was the
first year that they have actually got the network together,
the cities involved. They've got about 5,000,000 people who
are eligible to vote in this thing now.
Horow/ What are there projections for future years, did you see? Is
it continuing?
Baker/ A national urban primary.
Horow/ In effect, if we on objection, decided to challenge this and
eventually went to the Iowa Supreme Court, then the potential
would be, if we won, that we would be able to participate in
future years. Isn't that right?
Woito/ Yes.
Horow/ We need to start somewhere.
Woito/ Yes.
Horow/ And just the resolution being rejected, we would use it as
the basis of upon going forward to challenge that law.
Woito/ That will get you talking about what you wanted to-
Horow/ Without sending the resolution, we really can't start the
mechanism for challenging the law. Is that what I understand?
Woito/ No.
Horow/ We can challenge it without starting a resolution?
Woito/ You mean challenging the attorney general's opinion? Well,
in a way, if you were to try and get an initiative going
without changing our charter, Tom Slockett indicated he would
put that on the ballot, and maybe I have just talked myself
out of that, because if it were legally challenged, I don't
want four council offices sitting vacant January 1 when you're
sworn in. I mean if it would interfere with the integrity of
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the ballot after Tom Slockett put it on, I would caution in
some ways.
Baker/ There is some, I don't know if it's
word, but between the attorney general
about what he would be comfortable with.
disagreement is the
an Tom's statements
Woito/ Right.
Baker/ And how you read some of the attorney general's statements.
Woito/ Right.
Baker/ They wouldn't be comfortable with same thing that he'd be
comfortable with.
Woito/ And I think you can make the argument and if all seven of
you are very articulate, and I assume you would make the
articulate it, that there is, it seems to me the city council
ought to be deciding what is a local affair, and therefore I
strongly agree with the attorney general in saying this is not
a local affair. I think that's up to the council to decide
that in terms of home ruleo But I would feel more comfortable
eventually if we had more basis for that.
Horow/ All right. Is there any further? Roll call. Resolution's
adopted, Kubby voting no.
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Agenda
Iowa City City Council
Regular Council Meeting
August 29, 1995
Page 16
ITEM NO. 19-
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CONSIDER A RESOLUTION SETTING SALARIES FOR CITY MANAGER,
CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY CLERK.
Comments: This resolution sets the salaries for the City Manager, City
Attorney and City Clerk. All three Council appointees were evaluated
during Council executive sessions held on August 17 and August 24,
1995.
ITEM NO. 20 -
ADJOURNMENT.
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City of iowa City
MEMORANDUM
DATE:
TO:
FROM:
RE:
August 25, 1995
City Council
City Manager
Work Session Agendas and Meeting Schedule
August 28, 1995
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Monday
City Council Work Session - Council Chambers
Times approximate
Review zoning matters
Housing and Community Development Commission Bylaws
Broadway Street Housing Project Update
Economic Development Policies, Strategies, and Action
Presidential Straw Poll
Sidewalk Cafes
Council agenda, Council time, Council committee reports
Consider appointments to the Housing and Community
Development Commission
Tuesday
Regular City Council Neeting - Council Chambers
Tuesday
City Council Work Session - Council Chambers
Meeting with representatives from University Heights
a. Melrose Avenue Project
b. Neuzil Tract
c. Other business
Monday
City CouncilWork Session - Council Chambers
Tuesday
Regular City Council Meeting - Council Chambers
PENDING LIST
Appointment to the Historic Preservation Commission - September 26, 1995
Appointments to the Riverfront and Natural Areas Commission - October 10, 1995