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HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 14, 1999
CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MEMBERS PRESENT: Richard Carlson, Frank Gersh, Mike Gunn, Sue Licht, Pam Michaud,
Linda Shope
MEMBERS ABSENT: Lars Anderson, Doris Malkmus, Marc Mills, Michaelanne Widness
STAFF PRESENT:
Scott Kugler
OTHERS PRESENT: Joni Kinsey, Jim Enloe
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice-Chairperson Licht called the meeting to order at 5:33 p.m.
PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF ANY ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA:
There was none.
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS REVIEWS:
325 Brown Street.
Kugler distributed originals of the photographs in the packet. He said this project involves
changing a kitchen window at the back of the house from a slider window to a double hung
window that will more closely match the windows on the rest of the house. Kugler said there is
another slider window and a door that were put in when a rear porch was enclosed. He said the
proposal includes removal of those and replacement with French doors.
Kinsey said she was available to answer any questions the Commission might have. Kugler
noted the French doors shown in the packet do not have the transom up above as shown in the
drawings. Kinsey said the doors would take up pretty much the same space as the window and
door do now.
Licht asked how large the double hung replacement window would be. Kinsey said it would not
go much lower than the window is now because of an existing counter, but it would be higher.
She said it would be lined up outside so that the trim and everything would be in the same
proportion.
Kugler asked if the 36 by 44 dimension is for the window to be installed. Kinsey said she had
not yet found the right window. She said the dimensions on the other windows on the house are
taller than the 44 inch dimension. Kinsey said the window will not be dramatically larger than the
dimensions given, because that is all the space she has to put the window in.
Gunn said, as a member of the review committee, he felt the replacement of the sliding windows
would be an improvement. He said he did not have a problem with this. Gunn said a small
concern is that there is not a lot of precedent for the double French doors on the home's
exterior. He said the transom and trim is a plus for the project. Gersh said this is on the back of
the building and not visible from the street. Kugler stated that the Commission has jurisdiction
over anything exterior; it is a judgment call on the Commission's part as to how far the
guidelines should be carried regarding the rear of the home.
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Carlson said since this replaces work done in the 1970s, it does not really matter to him that
much what it looks like, especially since it is not visible from the street. He said historical
material is not being removed to install the new items.
Licht said this is a well-designed alternative to the back of the house. Gunn said the French
doors were just noted as being unusual but were not considered a problem.
Motion: Gersh moved to approve a certificate of appropriateness for the project at 325
Brown Street, as presented. Gunn seconded the motion. The motion carried on a vote of
6-0.
1106 E. College Street.
Kugler said this is an application for the construction of a new garage. He said there is an
existing one-stall garage at the rear of the property, and the new garage, with dimensions of 18
feet by 30 feet, would be constructed three feet from that along the alley. Kugler referred to the
elevations of the garage, saying the revised application calls for the use of hardi-plank siding
instead of vinyl siding as in the original plan.
Enloe said there have recently been traffic calming measures installed on College Street,
necessitating the need for off-street parking for residents. He said he is proposing the new
garage to meet his needs; he owns several cars from the 1950s and 60s that he is working on.
Enloe said he keeps them stored Off-site but would like to build a space to enable to him to keep
and work on his cars on his property.
Enloe said he has spoken with members of the Commission, trying to find a reasonable
compromise to meet his needs as well as the needs of the historic district. He said he designed
the garage to be harmonious in appearance, although the garage would be back on the alley
and would not be visible from the street.
Shope asked how deep the property is. Enloe said the property is 158 feet deep by 40 feet
wide. Shope asked if the ten-foot setback was from the edge of the alley or the center. Enloe
said it is ten feet back from the edge of the alley. Licht referred to the Sanborn map showing
where the other outbuildings in the area are located. Kugler said the map is from the 1960s and
has not been recently updated. Shope asked how long Enloe has lived in the house, and Enloe
responded he has lived there since 1996.
Kugler said the review committee worked with the applicant on a number of issues. Licht said
there are two basic issues: that of size and scale and the matter of the materials to be used.
Regarding the size and scale, Licht said the lot is quite narrow and tight. She said Enloe has
laid out his new garage exactly according to zoning regulations. Licht said the garage would not
be any bigger than a normal two-car garage. She said there is another two-car garage two or
three doors up facing the street. She added that there is also a large carriage house in the area.
Licht said everyone in the area who has a small garage like Enloe's, almost without exception,
has modified it in some way to accommodate more vehicles, so that there is quite an eclectic
mix in the alley. She said there are lots of pluses and minuses to the project.
Gersh said this is not 1910, and people do have more cars. He added, however, that no other
property there has more than one garage, and this project would put two garages on the
property. Gersh said the materials issues have been resolved since the vinyl siding is no longer
being proposed. Gunn agreed that the primary concern in terms of materials was the use of
vinyl, and that is no longer an issue.
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Gersh said the Iowa City Historic Preservation ordinance, Section 14-4C-2, states that any
change or alteration of the exterior features of a landmark, or change or alteration of the
appearance of a property within an historic or conservation district is something the Historic
Preservation Commission has jurisdiction over. He said the Secretary of the Interior Standards
(Guidelines for rehabilitating historic buildings) on pages 48 and 49 regarding "recommended"
and "not recommended" practices, include in the non-recommended column: introducing new
construction onto the building site which is visually incompatible in terms of size, scale, design,
materials, color and texture or which destroys historic relationships on its site. Gersh said also
not recommended is removing or radically changing those features of the district or
neighborhood which are important in defining the overall historic character, so that as a result
the character is diminished. He said those sections seem relevant in this case.
Licht said number ten of the Standards states that new additions and adjacent or related new
construction shall be undertaken in such a manner that if removed in the future, the essential
form and integrity of the historic property and its environment would be unimpaired. She said the
fact that this is a freestanding garage and could be completely removed at some point in time
also has relevance here.
Shope said standards one and two also apply. She said the first of the Secretary of the Interior
Standards for rehabilitation states that the property shall be used for its historic purpose or be
placed in a new use that requires minimal change to the defining characteristics of the building
and its site and environment. Shope said the second standard states the historic character of a
property shall be retained and preserved, and the removal of historic material or alterations of
features and spaces that characterize a property shall be avoided.
Licht said the section from the local guidelines regarding outbuildings states that garages and
other outbuildings should be located in positions relative to the main building which are similar
to the other garages and outbuildings in the historic district and to the extent such placement is
possible under the zoning ordinance. She said it also states that double-wide garage door
openings are discouraged if visible from the public right-of-way. Kugler said other sections call
for outbuildings to be subordinate to and compatible with the main building, in this case the
house.
Shope said she was having a difficult time with the area in total, with the construction of the
other homes and garages. She said the others are mainly single-car garages, and she felt that
in the interests of preserving an historic area and its uniqueness, another double-wide garage
would not fit in, even though down the block some larger garages were put in before this was an
historic district. Shope said the Commission can only move forward, not back.
Carlson said under the general guidelines, it states that compatibility and harmony will be
measured as those actually relate to the historic structures, not non-contributing structures. He
said that in a sense, the Commission should not be looking at the other garages there, the ones
that are the same size as the proposed garage. Carlson said if this application were just for an
additional garage the same size as the existing one, he would probably not have a problem with
it. He said he is mostly concerned about the scale of the proposed garage, since it is more than
twice as big as the existing garage and more than half as big as the house in footprint size.
Carlson said the scale is what seems most out of character about this project.
Enloe said the alternative is the demolition of the existing garage. Shope said Enloe would need
the Commission's permission to do that also. Enloe said before the area became an historic
district, he was assured he would have no problem with such a project and was told that the
Commission had never denied an application. Kugler said that at the time of those
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neighborhood meetings, to that point, the Commission had not denied any applications and had
always worked with property owners to allow them to use their properties in a manner
compatible with the district. He said former chair, Doug Russell, typically pointed out that the
Commission would change over time and that no guarantees can be made ahead of time.
Kugler said the procedures encourage attempts to work with the applicant to come up with a
design that is compatible and meets the applicant's needs. He said he didn't recall any
Commission member ever providing a guarantee about any project
Gersh said the review committee discussed alternatives with Enloe, such as adding to the
existing garage, constructing a smaller garage, or altering the proposed garage to make it more
compatible, but Enloe felt that would not give him enough room. He said the issue remains as to
whether or not there should be more than one garage.
Licht said the big issue for her is the scale and mass of the building compared to the other
buildings there. She said it takes a lot of room to house cars, so that when one looks at this as
an isolated garage, it seems reasonable to have this size of garage. However, Licht said in
relationship to the small garage on the site, the proposed garage seems out of proportion,
although it doesn't seem out of proportion for what it does.
Michaud asked if the building could be constructed to be like the coach house down the block.
Licht said the carriage house is really the only other large outbuilding. She said there would still
be two garages on the site, even if the new one were designed as a carriage house. Gersh
stated that the two big garages on' the block are way up the block, not in the immediate vicinity.
Shope asked how many cam the new garage would hold. Enloe said it would hold four small
cars or two normal-sized care. Gunn said it would not be as wide as a standard two-car garage,
although it would be longer than a standard two-car garage.
Enloe said he had discussed attaching the new garage to the existing garage but was
discouraged from doing so because that would modify the existing structure. He said an
unattached garage has to be at least three feet from the existing structure, resulting in the very
narrow garage. Gunn said at the initial visit to the site, he felt the large addition would be
inappropriate on a garage with half the square footage and a different height and setback.
Gersh said there were drawings of additions to the garage that would look reasonable, but they
would only house three cam. Enloe said that would not work for him. He said he has waited his
entire life to work on cars like this. Enloe said he is not a big developer. He said he owns the
home and lives there and does not think this is an unreasonable request.
Kugler pointed out that the historic designation does nothing in terms of the use of the property.
He said the Commission should base its consideration on design issues, as it has been.
Gunn said he has no doubt that the proposal is not compatible with the majority of the garages
on the block. He said there is language in two or three places that would allow the Commission
to deny the application. Gunn said, however, that all of the language is flexible enough to allow
the construction to go forward, as well. He said it would be a harsh decision to deny being able
to build anything on that spot. Gunn said while he agrees this is not compatible, he does not feel
there is enough in place, e.g. a track record and a consensus from the neighborhood, to say this
cannot be built here. He said he would not vote against this.
Gemh said he is the representative from that district, and he has not heard anyone in the district
speak against the proposed garage.
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Gunn said if the Commission had held guideline meetings that resulted in a neighborhood
consensus and proposed a limit on the size, scale, and number of garages, and therefore had
hard language to deny this, he would have a different opinion. He said he did not feel the
Commission would be supporting the neighborhood covenant if the construction were denied
altogether. Gunn said, however, that if the garage is permitted, it should be made compatible in
materials and appearance.
Licht said she had a similar opinion to Gunn's. She said her other fear is that if the garage is
allowed, it sets a precedent so that then the Commission will have to come up with some really,
good tight written guidelines between now and the next time someone proposes a garage that is
out of scale.
Kugler said the Commission may want to discuss details to improve the design, if Commission
members were at all open to approval. Licht said the siding issue has been resolved. She said
Enloe also agreed to increase the cornerboards on the proposed garage to match those on the
existing garage. Licht said, regarding the double car garage door, that it is almost impossible to
get two separate garage doom in an eighteen-foot dimension.
Licht stated that the low pitch of the garage roof gave it a 1950's ranch house look. She said a
steeper pitch might take some of that look away. Licht also suggested putting an architectural
element in the peak that would look similar to what is on the existing garage. Licht said because
the existing garage is narrow and tall, it appears to have a steeper pitch. Kugler said the
proposal is for a 4:12 pitched roof. Enloe said he would be willing to go to a 6:12 pitch - the
same as the existing garage.
Commission members discussed placing a window or possibly a vent of a size and scale to fit
the peak on each end of the garage. The consensus was to call for a window of approximately
12 inches by 12 inches, with appropriate trim, on each end.
Gersh asked for opinions on the material of the garage door. Kugler said the Commission
allowed double-wide doors with a flat finish in one instance on a house on Summit Street. He
said there was a case on Bella Vista where the garage was right on the street in which the
Commission required a wood paneled door with glass. Enloe said he was proposing a 16-foot
wide steel overhead door with a square cut simple white frame, including raised panels. Licht
said she would prefer to see a flat-paneled door with no raised or embossed panels.
Motion: Michaud moved to approve a certificate of appropriateness for the proposed
garage at 1106 East College Street subject to the following conditions: 1) the roof shall
be of a 6:12 pitch, 2) there shall be a window of approximately 12 x 12 at each end of the
garage in the peak, and 3) a flat-paneled garage door shall be used. Gunn seconded the
motion.
Enloe said he would be willing to make these changes if they were included as conditions for
approval.
Carlson said this project, as it stands with the conditions, would actually be acceptable to him.
He said however, that he is very concerned about setting a precedent with this project, so that
anyone can come along with an overscale garage meeting building codes and have it approved.
Carlson said the guidelines as read say this kind of thing should not be permitted. He said he
was concerned about setting a precedent and would be voting no on the motion.
Kugler said the adoption of the new guidelines could address the issue more specifically. He
said if this is approved, and until the guidelines are adopted, there will be a window in which
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someone could make the argument that a garage of this size and scale has already been
approved in an historic district. Licht said that the Commission has the opportunity to be much
more specific in the guidelines. Kugler agreed, saying the Commission can write them, and the
City Council can adopt them. Gunn estimated that it would be at least January before the
guidelines come before the Commission for revision and approval. He said the guidelines then
need to be taken to the neighborhoods for input, because each neighborhood would have its
own specific set of guidelines.
The motion carried on a vote of 3-2-1, with Carlson and Shope voting no, and Gersh
abstaining.
Kugler read from the Commission's by-laws that a majority of the votes cast at any meeting at
which a quorum is present shall be decisive of any motion or election. He said he believes that
the vote results in an approval of the motion, even though a quorum did not actually vote on the
item. He said he would follow up with the City Attorney's office to be sure before preparing a
certificate.
Section 106 Reviews:
Kugler said the Section 106 Reviews are for rehabilitation projects in which the City participates
using federal funds. He said the Commission needs to determine whether the buildings are
eligible for the National Register, and if so, the Commission is to look at the work plan to
determine whether the Secretary Of the Interior Standards are being met.
418 N. Gilbert Street.
Kugler said the survey of the area indicated that this property would be contributing to the
proposed historic district in that area. He suggested the Commission should therefore determine
the building to be eligible as part of the potential historic district. Licht said Marlys Svendsen's
site inventory form indicates that this is a key structure. Licht said she reviewed all of the
proposed work, and outside of installing new combination storms with the manufacture and style
to be appropriate for the age of the house, everything else was essentially to remove damaged
materials and repair and replace with a like kind. Gersh asked if the Commission should specify
that the windows be of wood. Kugler said in the past, the Commission found aluminum windows
to be acceptable, as long as they were a dark color. Licht pointed out that storm windows are
not permanent and can be removed without damage.
Kugler said the State Historical Society will review the plan and the Commission's determination
of eligibility and subsequent comments and either concur or not. He said the question of storm
windows has been raised in the past, and the response he has received from Ralph Christian is
that it is really a local decision whether or not the Commission wants to take the step to require
more historic material or a more historic look. Gunn suggested that the Commission at least
make a recommendation for wood windows. Licht suggested approving the plans with the
recommendation that they at least consider using wood storm windows.
Kugler said when Steve Schornhorst was the staff person, he emphasized the limited budget for
these projects and how in many cases, they are loans to low income individuals, rather than just
grants of money.
Motion: Gersh moved to find the property at 418 North Gilbert Street eligible for the
National Register and to find the proposed work to be compatible with the Secretary of
the Interior's Standards, with the recommendation that wood windows be considered.
L|cht seconded the motion. The motion carried on a vote of 6-0.
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917 Dearborn Street.
Kugler said the Longfellow survey indicated this was not an individually eligible property and
does not contribute to the conservation district that is proposed.
Motion: Gersh moved to find the property at 917 Dearborn Street not eligible for the
National Register. Gunn seconded the motion. The motion carried on a vote of 6-0.
625 4th Avenue.
Kugler said the Commission has surveyed this area, although the house was researched about
a year ago when a permit was applied for to do some emergency work on the roof. He said no
new information regarding the property has come to light since that time.
Motion: Gunn moved to find the property at 625 4t~ Avenue not eligible for the National
Register. Gersh seconded the motion. The motion carried on a vote of 6-0.
Discussion of Appeals Issue
Kugler said he has not yet received a memo from Anderson regarding the Commission's
decision not to pursue expanding the appeals issue. He said there is therefore nothing to
discuss at this time.
Update on Montgomery-Butler House Planning
Kugler said the PSF grant application for this has been filed on behalf of the Commission. He
added that the TEA-21 funding deadline is in three to four weeks and should be discussed in the
near future.
Reschedule Regular November Meeting
Because of the Veterans' Day holiday on November 11, the November meeting was
rescheduled to November 8.
Schedule Annual Planning Session
Kugler said it was important for all Commission members to be at the Annual Planning Session,
which would last approximately two hours. The session was tentatively scheduled for November
22 from 5:30 to 7:30, with a backup date of November 16.
Consideration of Minutes from the August 12. August 31. and September 9. meetings
August 12
Motion: Shope moved to approve the minutes of the August 12 Historic Preservation
Commission meeting, as written. Gersh seconded the motion. The motion carried on a
vote of 6-0.
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August 31
Motion: L|cht moved to approve the minutes of the August 31 Historic Preservation
Commission meeting, as written. Gersh seconded the motion. The motion carried on a
vote of 6-0.
September 9
On page two, in the second sentence on the page, the end of the sentence should read,
"window had to be done from the outside".
On page two, regarding the vote on the motion, the statement should read, "Shope and Carlson
against."
Motion: Carlson moved to approve the minutes of the September 9 Historic Preservation
Commission meeting, as amended. Gunn seconded the motion. The motion carried on a
vote of 6-0.
Commission Information/Discussion:
Commission Time
Licht said she would like to have an opportunity at some future meeting to make a presentation
on the restoration of existing window sashes. She said she would discuss the use of existing
windows in terms of both weatherization and economic incentive.
FY99 Annual Report
Kugler said the Commission's Annual Report was included in this month's packet of material.
Access to History: Design Review and the Americans with Disabfiities Act. November 8. 1999,
Des Moines. Iowa
Kugler said this is a free seminar regarding ADA issues and historic preservation design issues.
He asked anyone interested in attending the seminar to let him know.
Kugler said Lowell and Paula Brandt recently submitted an application regarding the railing they
wanted to put on their property. He said the Brandts have now changed their plans and would
like to remove the spindles from the railing as it goes down the steps. Licht said she would like
them to at least resubmit a drawing of how the new railing would look. Kugler suggested that
Commission review would be necessary to amend the certificate of appropriateness since the
Commission as a whole approved the original railing. He said he would find out if the application
can wait until the November 8 meeting or if a special meeting will need to be called.
Adjournment:
The meeting was adjourned at 7:24 p.m.
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MINUTES
IOWA CITY HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY NOVEMBER 8, 1999, 5:30 PM
SENIOR CENTER CLASSROOM
PRELIMINARY
Subject to Approval
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Lars Anderson, Frank Gersh, Richard Carlson, Michaelanne Widness,
Sue Licht, Mike Gunn, Marc Mills, Doris Malkmus, Pam Michaud,
Linda Shope
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT:
Scott Kugler
OTHERS PRESENT: Pam Ehrhardt, Ann Freerks, Lowell Brandt
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Anderson called the meeting to order at 5:29 p.m.
PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF ANY ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA
Pam Ehrhardt began by stating that there are a number of things happening in the Governor
Street area that concern residents. There was a historic survey done in the neighborhood and
one of the recommendations that came out of the survey was that Governor Street should be a
conservation district. She has inquired with the Department of Planning and Community
Development about the possibility of down-zoning the area. Ehrhardt went on to say that she
understands that the Commission is currently working on changes to its ordinance and
guidelines; however, residents are concerned about the future use of buildings and possible
demolition of homes. The residents would like to inquire about the possibility of expediting the
process to make the area a conservation district.
Ann Freerks said that the neighborhood is at a critical point now. There was discussion a few
years ago about making the area a conservation district. She noted that she feels it is important
to pursue this as quickly as possible now. There are many elderly people in the neighborhood
and when those properties come up for sale the neighbors would like to have some structure in
place to promote the homes for single family or to keep the structures intact. The integrity of the
neighborhood is of concern as she sees it changing very quickly if something is not done soon.
Freerks then offered assistance from the neighborhood to pursue conservation district
designation,
Malkmus asked Kugler to outline what it would take to have this designation. Kugler stated that
the ordinance requires that the Commission prepare a report that would describe the
neighborhood; what makes it worthy of preservation. A public hearing would have to be held
and the Commission would have to make the decision as to whether or not to nominate the
district. It will then go to the Planning and Zoning Commission for review and finally to the City
Council for a vote.
Gunn then asked if there is an ordinance that specifies a percentage of agreement for the
designation. Kugler said there is no percentage, but at least six members of the neighborhood
have to propose the conservation district, or the Commission on its own initiative can make the
proposal. There is no owner-consent requirement.
Widness then commented that as she saw it the designation that is being requested would not
offer the kind of protection that is being asked for. This does not preclude sales from owner-
occupied to rental property.
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Ehrhardt then explained that the neighborhood is not asking for this; rather they would like to
have more of a design review. There needs to be some kind of design review that will offer
continuity to the neighborhood.
Gersch then noted over a year ago guidelines were put together that were to be presented to
the neighborhood. This project never was completed and maybe they do not need to meet with
the 'neighborhood.
Ehrhardt then noted that last spring she was sent as a planning and zoning Commissioner to an
annual planning meeting in Seattle. One of seminars she went to was a session on conservation
in historic districts to preserve neighborhoods. The strongest thing that she got out of it was that
there really needs to be cooperation between the city and the neighborhood. It was the
neighborhood that made the designation of character that they wanted to preserve. There are
many things that the neighborhood could be doing to help achieve the designation. Their
neighborhood wants to take on this project with the city's guidance.
Freerks then commented that the Longfellow Neighborhood has a good track record in getting
things done when they need to be. They are anxious to work on this project. She reiterated that
they are at a critical point. The area is kind of a buffer zone and once things go in the other
direction there will not be a rebound. She believes this is an important time to take action.
Anderson said that having the neighborhood support makes it more feasible. There is a finite
amount of time and their support is important.
Malkmus inquired if it would maybe be beneficial to have someone from the Commission work
with members of the neighborhood to see what needs to be done for the planning meeting. This
would help determine what really needs to be done in terms of work to complete the project.
Gunn then asked for clarification of the area being discussed. Freerks said that it includes
Governor Street between Burlington and the railread tracks. This would be an opportunity to use
the guidelines and attempt to get the designation. It was agreed that Freerks would get the
proposed guidelines from Kugler and proceed in setting up a meeting.
Malkmus suggested that a Commission member should meet with the neighborhood. Michaud
said that there was some concern about the interpretation of the guidelines. She then offered to
meet with the neighborhood and work towards getting a start before the planning meeting on
November 22, 1999.
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS REVIEW
824 N. Gilbert-Request for amendment to approve certificate. Anderson noted that this is a
request to amend a previous approval.
Kugler said the Commission may remember the approval for the request for the replacement of
the steps and a rail on this property. The rail was to be located along the south side of the steps
leading from the top of the hill down to the sidewalk. The owner, Lowell Brandt, has now
indicated that they would like to change the plans. They now would like to move the rail to the
other side of the steps as it fits better with the way things have worked out on the site. The
original plan was to construct a rail similar to that on the porch, with spindles. Now they would
like to keep the posts and top rail the same, but the vertical spindles will be eliminated.
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Brandt said he appreciated the original approval; however once the steps were laid it became
apparent that something simpler would be more appropriate. This gets away from some of the
angles in the steps.
Michaud noted that it was suggested that a pipe rail be used and asked why the owner decided
against this. Brandt said that they visually had a problem with the concept of using a pipe rail.
Brandt said they were willing to deal with the maintenance of wood.
Carlson then said that he believed that a pipe railing would be more appropriate with concrete
steps. Brantit then said now that the concrete is poured some damage would be done to the
structure of it since it was a not allowed for originally, They do not want to drill holes in the
concrete to save the integrity of the concrete.
Anderson said that the first proposal was much busier and complicated than what is now being
requested. It is a move toward what the Commission initially suggested and a more elaborate
rail was originally approved. To go to the other direction now in his mind would be inappropriate.
MOTION: Widness moved to approve the amended certificate of appropriateness as
submitted for 824 N. Gilbert Street. Gersh seconded the motion. The motion carried on a
vote of 9-0.
SECTION 106 REVIEWS
1907 G. Street- Kugler began by stating that with the Section 106 reviews the Commission's
first job is to determine whether the property is eligible for the National Register, and if so, the
Commission should look at the work plan to determine if it meets the Secretary of the Interior's
Standards. He went on to say that with 1907 G Street; the staff has no information indicating
that it is eligible. A survey has not been completed there, but there is no historical information
available indicating that is eligible. Kugler indicated that he believes it was built in the 1940's.
Motion: Malkmus moved that the Commission find that the property is not eligible for the
National Register. Mills seconded the motion. The motion carried on a vote of 9-0.
418 E. Benton Street- Kugler stated that this home was built in the 1920s. He said that at one
time local consultant Jan Nash had raised some concerns when the city was looking at
changing the configuration of Gilbert Street and perhaps creating a one-way couplet in this area.
She noted that there were a number of homes that were originally occupied by African
Americans and that there may be some significance associated with this issue.
Malkmus then inquired if it was appropriate to vote that the historical significance is not known,
but the proposed alternations do meet the guidelines. Kugler said that staff does not plan to
conduct additional research, but the letter could state something regarding the potential
historical significance. He went on to say that in the submission to the State it could be said for
the purposes of this project that it will not be considered eligible, and then add a disclaimer that
until additional research is done it could not be said with certainty if it is eligible.
Motion: Carlson moved that the Commission find that for the purposes of this project it
is not being considered to be eligible for the National Register, but that additional
research may prove otherwise, at some point in the future. It was seconded by Shope.
The motion carried on a vote of 9-0.
Motion: Malkmus moved that the work that has been proposed in conformance with the
Secretary of the Interior's standards even if this building is not eligible. It was seconded
by Carlson. The vote carried on a vote of 9-0.
Iowa City Historic Preservation Commission Minutes
November 8, 1999
Page 4
DISCUSSION OF UPCOMING GRANT APPLICATION DEADLINES
Kugler began by saying the CLG and HRDP grant program deadlines are coming up. The CLG
is in December and the HRDP in January. He indicated that the Commission is late in getting
started and he noted the items in his memo to the Commission. This included a National
Register nomination for the Longfellow Historic District and additional survey work in Manville
Heights, Iowa Avenue and Kirkwood Avenue or elsewhere. It has'been recommended that a
survey be completed for fraternities and sororities. The other possibility is if the Montgomery-
Butler House professional services grant is not funded through the National Trust it could be
reapplied for as well. He went on to say that one change to the HRDP program is that if a
community is funded for an HRDP grant, they are then restricted from filing an application for
the following two years. He went on to say that in FY 98 and 99, although grant applications
were filed, they were not funded. Therefore, they can file this year. If they do file and are
successful they will need to understand that for the next two years this program will not be
available.
Malkmus inquired if any grant applications that have been filed and rejected for CLG and HRDP
and need to be reviewed and then re-submitted. She also asked if both these grants would
require totally new applications.
Licht joined the meeting at 6:15PM.
Kugler said last year's HRDP application to hire someone to review the ordinance and prepare
amendments for certain items was not funded.
Anderson noted that the deadline is December 15. He suggested the issue be postponed until
the November 22 planning meeting.
DISCUSSION OF APPEALS ISSUE
Anderson stated that two meetings ago he was asked to write a memo to the City Council and
he has it prepared now.
Widness commented on the item that stated "nationwide we were able to identify several
communities granting other property owners besides the applicant with right of appeal." She
then wondered if this represented a small percentage of people. Anderson explained that his
understanding that it is not unusual in the more established programs such as Savannah that
have advanced to a highly sophisticated ordinance, Widness thought this type of language
would give greater clarification.
Carlson asked what other cities' preservation Commission have to say about it. He would like
some feedback on this. Anderson said he did not contact communities directly to determine this.
Malkmus inquired about the statement saying "we were not able to identify any other Iowa
community that extended the right to appeal beyond the occupant." She said she remembered
that there were some communities that have this; however Kerry McGrath stated that she did
not know of any communities who did have it. Therefore, the information appeared to be very
ambiguous. Anderson noted that it was apparent that some of those communities did not fully
understand the question. There appears to be few, if any, Iowa communities that allow for an
appeal by neighbors.
Malkmus said she thought the letter was very organized and well written. It was agreed to make
the minor adjustments of language and send it to the City Council.
Iowa City Historic Preservation Commission Minutes
November 8, 1999
Page 5
REMINDER- NOVEMBER 22 ANNUAL PLANNING SESSION
CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 14, 1999, MEETING
Shope moved to approve the minutes with minor amendments and corrections. Carlson
seconded the motion. The motion carried on a vote of 10-0.
COMMISSION INFORMATION/DISCUSSION
Malkmus said that there was a meeting with the Parks and Recreation Commission to discuss
the plans to apply for grant money for the Butler-Montgomery House. The money that will be
applied for will be the TEA-21 grants that are being considered for the next three years. This
money will be used to extend a trail to the park below the hill. A comfort station will also be
installed. The plan calls to keep the driveway where it is currently. No landscaping will be
involved. The Parks and Recreation Commission gave their support for this project.
Widness said that she had spoken with a member of City Council regarding the Englert Theatre.
She was asked to ask the Commission to inquire if something could be done and once the
downtown survey is completed will there be any power in the ordinance to prevent what will
happen to the Englert from happening. Anderson stated that he understands that what is
proposed with the Englert has nothing to do with the exterior.
Kugler stated that as the ordinance currently reads, even if permits were needed for the interior
there is no review -- even if the building were designated as a landmark. Anderson further
commented that as long as nothing is done to the outside the Commission would have no say or
review to the issue. Anderson then stated that the Commission has not pursued the designation
of the building in the past. Gersh then said that the theatre has already been divided into two
movie theatres and there is not a lot of history left on the inside of the building.
Widness went on to say she also spoke to Mayor Lehman regarding this issue and he
suggested that the Commission write a letter to the prospective owner. Widness said that Mayor
Lehman suggested that the letter be written to the effect that the owner would be reminded of
the importance of the building to the history of downtown Iowa City and to gently prod him to do
the least amount of damage that he could possibly do.
Anderson then said he was not clear as to the present situation, but he does understand that
the present tenants in the upper floors have been asked to leave.
Malkmus commented that she is concerned with the theatre area of the building. Widness then
Said the Robert Hamel of the Iowa City Community Theatre called and he was very concerned
about the theatre part and staging area. He indicated that if these areas were altered
substantially then no theatre group would be able to use the facility.
Malkmus suggested that the Commission second this sentiment by sending a letter. Anderson
then suggested that an open letter in the newspaper be sent to the perspective owner stating
that the Commission is concerned about the potential change in the character of the building.
Licht then said she believed that this would put more pressure on the new owner to do the right
thing. The group agreed this letter would be a good idea. Widness said that she would draft a
letter for publication. She said she felt this letter could act as a catalyst for others to write letters.
This would possibly keep the issue in the forefront. It was agreed that the letter would be sent to
the Iowa City Gazette and the Press Citizen. The draft of the letter will be discussed at the
planning meeting.
Iowa City Historic Preservation Commission Minutes
November 8, 1999
Page 6
EMAIL FROM KERRY MCGRATH
Kugler noted that McGrath contacted the Commission regarding a design review training
oppodunity. Non/Winter is a well-known consultant who will be in the area doing some work.
This may be an opportunity for a program. Kugler then said that Oskaloosa has indicated that
they would like to hire him, but would need a partner to sponsor a program. It was decided that
Anderson would get clarification of the exact request and report back to the Commission.
ADJOURNMENT
Michaud moved to adjourn and Malkmus seconded the motion. The meeting adjourned at
6:40PM.
Submitted by Le Ann Dunne-Tyson
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MINUTES
HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 21, 1999
CIVIC CENTER LOBBY CONFERENCE ROOM
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Dan Coleman, Lucia-Mia Page, Jayne Moraski, Kathleen
Renquist, Bob Elliott, Denita Gadson, Rick House
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Bill Stewart, Gretchen Schmuch
STAFF PRESENT:
Maggie Grosvenor, Steve Long, Steve Nasby, Le Ann Dunne
OTHERS PRESENT:
Sarah Purcell
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Moraski called the meeting to order at 6:30 P.M.
CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES
Meeting minutes from September 16, 1999, were reviewed. Moraski requested a change to the
minutes. She noted that she voted against the Swenson extension. This will change the
approval for the extension to a vote of 5-3. Elliott moved to approve the minutes as amended
with Coleman seconding the motion. The motion was approved by a vote of 6-0.
REVIEW OF 2000-2005 CITY STEPS DOCUMENT
Nasby began by stating that two sections of the CITY STEPS document has been distributed to
the Commission in September. Section two contains demographics and the 1996 census was
used to update as many of the statistics as possible. Section three is the housing needs section.
Some of the 1990 census data had to be kept and updates to the section were done by using
the information from the Maxfield Study and Cook Appraisals Rental Study.
In response to a question, Nasby said that a draft needs to be to the public by November 5,
1999. At this time it will go to the public for a 30-day public comment period. Nasby asked the
Commission to review the document and contact staff with any changes or suggestions that
they may have. He went on to say that the Priorities and Strategies Committee has met twice to
review and update section four (strategies) and are making any necessary changes.
Suggestions for changes made in the document were based on the CITY STEPS public
meetings.
MONITORING REPORTS
Salvation Army- Moraski noted that Capt. Deon Oliver was out of town so there is no report.
Community Mental Health Center- Schmuch was not at the meeting to report.
City of Iowa City-First Home Program- Coleman reported that there have been five households
who have received assistance and $15K has been spent out of the $30K allocated. The lenders
are using the State IHAP grant funds when they can; rather than the City funds. Of the five
households assisted; two were assisted in 1998 and three were assisted in 1999. The average
home purchase price was $79,900. Three households were female head of households with all
five being Caucasian. One was low income and four were moderate-income families.
Mayor's Youth Employment Program- Elliott began by saying that he met with Diane Haggerry,
the Executive Director, This past year the program had requested $25K and was given $15.4K
for a job-training program. At the present time they are working with 15 persons who are 16
years of age and older. They do not have a cut-off age. She said it was difficult to say what they
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October 21, 1999
Page 2
were not able to do due to the reduction of funds, but it does mean that there is reduced time in
actually working with their clientele who need substantial handholding.
Elliott said Haggerry pointed out that one of the problems that she has seen take place over
time is the people who come to them have an increasing number of young people who have
multiple barriers to have successful job searches. It does take more time to serve this type of
client.
Elliott added that Haggerty also noted that there would be less funding from the State and
Federal sources in the future. She said that the lack of funds from the State is not a reduction in
funds; rather that the State will be making allocations on the basis of population as opposed to
need.
Elliott said that he and Haggerty discussed duplication of services. Haggerry agreed that there
could be some additional assistance available in a more efficient and cost effective operation if
some of the duplications could be eliminated. Elliott said he would follow-up on this issue,
OLD BUSINESS
Successful Living- Kopatich sent a letter to HCDC withdrawing the application. Nasby explained
that Kopatich could not obtain a satisfactory purchase arrangement. They had been working
with the current owner on lease arrangements; however the seller had gone ahead and finalized
some lease arrangements that were not up to Kopatich's expectations. This locked the property
in and Kopatich was not comfortable with making the purchase. She thanked the Commission
and apologized for putting them through the work that they had done on this project,
Swenson and Associates Project- Nasby began by saying that a letter was faxed to him on
October 20. He noted that the first deadline set by HCDC was September 30, 1999, which
required two homebuyers to have signed purchase agreements and financing in place. This was
not met as one household did not sign up which meant Swenson did not meet the deadline. In
response, Nasby and the City Attorney have sent letters to Swenson. Nasby said that the
contract can be terminated for convenience. The City is in the process of getting financial
information from the bank on the first home and doing a title search on the other two properties.
Disposition of the two lots will be made once the titles are clear. If everything goes well the City
should be in possession of these lots sometime in the next 30 days.
Nasby inquired what the Commission would like to do with the lots. He said that there are three
entities currently doing home ownership pregrams using CDBG or HOME funds. They are Iowa
City Housing Authority, Greater Iowa City Housing Fellowship and Habitat for Humanity. These
three have received funding before and have expressed interest in working with the two lots.
Elliott inquired about the need in the community. He said his church has funding for a Habitat
project and there have not been any takers. Long said Habitat has different guidelines for
homeowners. It has a lower income guideline and as an example in the Swenson project
someone had to quality for a $90K loan.
Nasby explained that with the Greater Iowa City Housing Fellowship Landlease the non-profit
owns the land and leases it to the homeowner. The Housing Authority sells the whole property
and carries a silent second mortgage on the property. The target population is the same for both
entities and the subsidy is approximately equal.
Elliott inquired about the possibility of using manufactured housing to continue what the
Swenson Project started. Nasby said that was a possibility.
Nasby said that with these two lots the properties could be given to one or more of the three
groups and they would put up the homes without additional funding. Moraski inquired about the
groups doing an application. Nasby said that it could be something with guidelines setout by the
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October 21, 1999
Page 3
Commission as opposed to a formal application process since these groups have done projects
in the past. It was agreed that applications would be requested and then discussed at the next
meeting.
Moraski inquired about the North District Planning Presentation. Nasby said that there will be
public meetings on November 10th and 17th.
NEW BUSINESS,
Formation of Subcommittee for Ranking Criteria and Application Review- Nasby stated that
applications are scheduled to be available in mid-December so the subcommittee may want to
meet in earlier November for recommendations. The final recommendations could then be
considered at the regular November HCDC meeting, finalized and forwarded to the Council.
Coleman suggested that perhaps the waters could be tested to see if there are any changes
that are needed. Elliott said that he thought the only concern that he remembers is that
Coleman was concerned about confidentiality of individual scores last year. Coleman confirmed
this and thanked Elliott for remembering the issue. Moraski suggested that confidentiality be
discussed at the next meeting. Renquist suggested that a sub-committee did not need to be
formed if the Commission was comfortable with the existing ranking sheet. The members
agreed that there was no need to form a sub-committee and to discuss the confidentiality issue
at the next meeting.
Annual Housing and Community Development Report- Nasby said that the report for the
Commission was in the annual booklet that was published with accomplishments and plans for
all commissions and committees for the City.
Nasby said that there was an open house for the Salvation Army, however the timing was not
good for the Commission since the notice was received on October 1 and the open house was
over on the 15th of the month. Long said he attended and the facility was very nice. A new
kitchen is being installed with $40K in new kitchen equipment paid for by CDBG Funds. Moraski
also had a memo inviting the Commission to visit at any time.
Grosvenor from the Iowa City Housing Authority was present. She spoke of the conversion of
certificates in the Section 8 Program. This will be a two-year process with certificate conversion
to vouchers. Grosvenor explained that certificates were bound by fair market rents. This meant
that landlords would have rent restrictions in regard to what they could charge. The vouchers
had the subsidy based on a payment standard subsidy. It was a two-step calculations process.
Now the programs are gone in regard to the calculation process. Now there is a housing
voucher choice. Now the restriction comes from tenant's income. Every tenant must pay 30% of
their income; with a cap at 40% of their income. This comes out the Quality Housing Work
Responsibility Act that was passed in 1998. This requires the tenant to meet the income
requirements. Everyone has two review phases to comply. Grosvenor said she is working on
landlord education at this point.
Page joined meeting- 7:10PM
ADJOURNMENT
Elliott moved to adjourn the meeting and Renquist seconded the motion. The meeting was
adjourned by unanimous consent at 7:15 P.M.
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COUNCIL
(LISA SINGLE SIDED)
MINUTES
IOWA CITY BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 3, 1999 - 5 P.M.
CIVIC CENTER- COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MEMBERS PRESENT: Susan Bender, Lowell Brandt, T. J. Brandt, Kate Corcoran, Michael Paul
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Melody Rockwell, Dennis Mitchell, LeAnn Dunne-Tyson
OTHERS PRESENT: Pastor Jong Koo Lee, IIkyu Yoon, Ken Polsley
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Bender called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
All members were present for roll call,
CONSIDERATION OF THE OCTOBER 13, 1999. BOARD MINUTES:
Motion: T.J. Brantit moved to approve the October 13, 1999, minutes of the Board of Adjustment,
as printed. Paul seconded. The motion carried on a vote of 5-0.
SPECIAL EXCEPTION ITEMS
EXC99-0021. Public hearing on an application submitted by the All Nations Baptist Church for a
special exception to permit the expansion of a religious institution, that is, the construction of a
fellowship and education addition to the main church building, for property located in a Low Density
Single-Family Residential (RS-5) zone at 1715 Mormon Trek Boulevard.
Rockwell noted that All Nations Baptist Church had been before the Board in the past to request
the establishment of the initial church building and a temporary addition. She said the church had
also requested additional time for the temporary addition to remain in place. The Board allowed the
temporary modular building to remain on-site until March 1, 2000. Rockwell explained that the
church had indicated the modular addition would be removed at the time a permanent addition was
constructed. She said the church requested more time to raise the funds to construct a permanent
addition. She said the church has now raised the funds, and is requesting approval of a special
exception to allow it to build a two-story structure to house a fellowship and education wing.
Rockwell said the church meets the minimum lot area and access requirements for religious
institutions in the RS-5 Zone. She said the initial application showed that the building addition
would be set too close to the Highway 218 right-of-way. She said the setback requirement is two
feet for every foot of height of the building. Rockwell said the building is 24 feet in height and the
setback was proposed to be 42 feet, not 48 feet. She said the revised plan shows the addition
being reconfigured to be a little wider and to extend less towards Highway 218 so that it would be
set back approximately 50 feet. She said the building would wrap around the original building
slightly, but extend more to the northwest instead of toward the west.
Iowa City Board of Adjustment Minutes
November 3, 1999
Page 2
Rockwell said in evaluating the appropriateness of the religious institution expansion in relationship
to the residential properties around it, staff noted that this building would have enormous setbacks
from property lines and any adjacent residential properties. She said the church has contributed to
the welfare of the community and neighborhood by allowing the church to be used as a center for
neighborhood and city meetings, a polling place, a day care center, a pre-school and for youth
outreach wor. k. She said staff recommends the installation of landscaping to soften the appearance
of the building. She noted that although traffic may be increased in the area, it would not pose a
problem for the adjoining segment of Mormon Trek Boulevard.
Rockwell stated that staff recommends approval of the special exception to permit the expansion of
a religious institution, that is, the construction of a fellowship and education addition to the main
church building, for property located in the RS-5 zone at 1715 Mormon Trek Boulevard, subject to
the exterior of the building addition being similar in style, color and materials as the existing
structure and a landscaping plan approved by city staff being planted and maintained on the site.
Public Hearing opened.
Pastor Lee spoke stating that the All Nations Baptist Church was built about eight years ago. He
said it started as a small Korean congregation and now has grown into an international church with
members from seven or eight countries. He noted that the church has helped evangelize the cities
of Iowa City and Coralville. He said the church has been doing its best to make contributions to the
community by allowing the church to be used as a voting station, for neighborhood meetings, and
also operating a daycare for a reasonable rate. He said in view of the growth of the church
membership and its programs, the facility needs to be expanded. He said in July 2000, the church
would be hosting a huge youth rally. He said it is the church's hope to finish the building addition by
that time. He asked the Board to grant the exception.
Ilkyu Yoon, a deacon at the church, said he joined the church about four years ago when moving to
the Cedar Rapids area for a job. He commented that this church has allowed him to grow in faith
and now he is the director of the college group. He said he realizes that the education offered by
the church is so important, especially for the college students. Yoon also noted that many students
come to Iowa City before the school terms starts and can not find affordable housing. He said the
church has offered these students a place to stay. He said the church also offers language courses
for ethnic groups as well. He said for these reasons, the educational building addition is necessary
for the work to continue.
Ken Polsiey, a church member, said he and his family joined the church about two years ago. He
said when he joined, there were about a half dozen people in the non-Korean portion of the
congregation and now there are about sixty members. He said his wife is a music minister and one
of the big problems is finding space for practicing music for the worship. He said that there is a real
need for additional space. Polsley said this church has benefited his children greatly and he
supports the expansion.
Rockwell then asked for clarification from Pastor Lee in regard to the building layout. Pastor Lee
said that aesthetically it would be better to go west with the design. L. Brantit said that the Board
would not be in the position today to reduce the setback for this design. Reverend Lee said that
they would like a decision at this meeting and will meet the design requirements based on the
decision of the Board at this meeting.
Public hearing closed.
Iowa City Board of Adjustment Minutes
November 3, 1999
Page 3
MOTION: L Brandt moved to approve EXC99-0021, a special exception to expand a religious
institution use, that is, to allow the construction of a two-story worship and education
addition on the northwest side of the existing All Nations Baptist Church building for
property located in a RS-5 zone at 1715 Mormon Trek Boulevard, subject to 1) the exterior of
the building addition being similar in color, style and materials to the existing structure and
2) a landscaping plan approved by city staff being planted and maintained on the site. In
addition, this special exception is approved with the understanding that it apl~lies to a more
westerly or more northwesterly extension of the structure than shown on the application, if
approved by City staff. Corcoran seconded the motion.
FINDINGS OF FACT
L. Brandt said that he sat on the Board dudng the previous two special exceptions that were
considered for the temporary addition. He said he recollected there was considerable discussion
for plans for a more permanent structure and he is pleased to see the church come before the
Board able to request the permanent addition. He said the impact of the addition would be rather
minimal because of the location of the property and location of the building adjacent to two major
thoroughfares. He noted that one of the things that makes this somewhat easier is that there was
foresight in the original purchase of the property that allows plenty of room for expansion. He said
the church has provided well for the parking and planned a good ingress/egress for the site. He
said he does not see any problems with the church meeting the standards for granting a special
exception and he supports the special exception with the conditions as stated in the Board's
motion.
T.J. Brandt noted that he too would vote in favor of the exception knowing the role the church plays
for the community and the number of people it serves. He felt that in the interests of justice, it
would serve the church and the community well to expand the facility and continue to meet and
serve the needs of churchgoers and neighbors. He commended the church for its efforts in getting
to this point and reiterated that he supports the exception.
Corcoran said she would vote in favor of the motion as the church appears to have been a very
helpful member of the community on the west side. She noted that the standards appear to be met
and the landscaping will soften the appearance. She said she will vote in favor of the motion.
Paul said he will vote in favor of the motion for the reasons previously mentioned. He said he
echoes the comments that were made about the purchase of property, which is strategically
located for such a facility and allows for its future growth. He said the proposed expansion will not
have a negative impact on the neighbors or the traffic in the area. He said he will vote in favor of
the motion.
Bender commented that she will vote in favor for many of the reasons stated. She said she would
have to admit that she is a neighbor and when the church was first being built that she had some
concerns about traffic congestion. She said she has not seen traffic as a problem and has been at
the church for community meetings. Bender said as has been stated, the church has been an
asset to the community, particularly in its educational outreach for children and youth. She said all
of the standards and regulations in Article L have been met. She said she will also vote in favor of
the motion.
The motion was approved 5-0.
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November 3, 1999
Page 4
OTHER BUSINESS
Rockwell stated that December 8, 1999, is the date for the brewell Board of Adjustment luncheon
for Susan Bender. She said the luncheon will be held at Givannis at noon.
ADJOURNMENT:
Corcoran ~oved to adjourn with the second by T.J. Brandt. The meeting adjourned at 5:35 p.m.
Susan Bender, Board Chairperson
Minutes submitted by LeAnn Tyson
Melody Rockwell, Board Secretary
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IOWA CITY BOARD OF ADJLIS'?'MEItlT MEET2'NG
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IOWA CITY BOARD OF APPEALS .......
MONDAY, JUNE 7, 1999 - 4:30 P.M.
SITE VISIT AT 403 SOUTH LUCAS STREET AND MEET AT LOBBY CONFERENCE ROOM
CITY CIVIC CENTER
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Anna Buss, Robert Carlson, Tim Fehr, Gary Haman, Wayne Maas,
John Roffman, Tom Werderitsch
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
STAFFPRESENT:
Tim Hennes, Gary Klinefelter, Roger Jensen, Dennis Mitchell
OTHERS PRESENT:
Casey Cook, Cal Fuoss, John Loomis
BOARD INSPECTION OF 403 S. LUCAS ST.:
The Board members performed a site inspection of the third floor bedroom. Owner Cal Fuoss,
Sr. Housing Inspector Gary Klinefelter, Sr. Building Inspector Tim Hennes and Asst. City
Attorney Dennis Mitchell also attended.
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Carlson called the meeting or order at 4:55 p.m.
CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES OF THE MARCH 1, 1999, MEETING:
MOTION: Buss moved to approve the March 1, 1999, meeting minutes as submitted. Roffman
seconded the motion. The motion carried by a vote of 7-0.
HEAR AN APPEAL OF NOTICE OF HOUSING CODE VIOLATION (403 S. LUCAS ST.):
Carlson noted that is the property that the Board just visited. Klinefelter said he tried to be fairly
thorough in the chronology, summary and recommendations. Roffman said #2 of the staff
recommendations said that the escape/rescue window should be installed, but then Klinefelter
said the door could be become the escape/rescue point and the window would not be needed.
Klinefelter said he thought they could consider that to all be one room if the wall section is
removed, so they could use the door to the west in lieu of an escape/rescue window. He said
the habitable area would be the east end and the west end would become the hallway.
Maas said he was concerned about not putting an escape/rescue window in because of the
hallway length. He said if a fire would start in the back of the room a person would not be able to
get from the habitable room to the outside stairway. Buss said if a fire would zoom up the stairs
the person would be completely out of luck. Klinefelter said there is a hard-wired smoke detector
at the top of the stairs. He said they are asking for an additional one to be installed in the
sleeping area. Carlson asked why this space was directed to be vacated in 1986, vacated and
now has become reoccupied, and they are now being asked to approve that this space be
rehabitable. Klinefelter said yes, with some modification. Carlson asked if the building was
converted from a single family house back to a duplex in 1987. Klinefelter said there was a
building permit and Certificate of Structural Compliance issued for that, but they did not have
any record of inspections. He said there is still an outstanding issue of utility separation for
electricity, but that is under the jurisdiction of the Iowa Utilities Board. Klinefelter said the whole
thing was kind of an embarrassing affair because a lot of mistakes were made.
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June 7,1999
Page 2
Werderitsch said that inspections were recorded from 1996-99 on the licensing, but no
observations of the attic being used as a separate sleeping room was made. He asked if he
could infer from that that an inspection was not made upstairs or that the attic was not being
used at those times. Klinefelter said he thought they could infer that the assumption was made
by the inspector that that area was nonconforming habitable space. He said no one had done
any research to go back and find out what had transpired previous to that. He said there is no
record of any appeal, but it probably wouldn't have taken much work to research that. He said
he would make the assumption that it was being used, observed by previous inspectors and
they thought that an appeal or variance had been granted. Werderitsch asked what triggered
the investigation. Klinefelter said the lack of utility split for the two dwelling units caused them to
start researching the file. He said there are a lot of entries and microfilm, but there are also a lot
of gaps in the file.
Carlson asked if they knew when the permit was issued to change the structure from single-
family to duplex, and asked if there was enough information there to see if at that time it was
intended for the third floor to be habitable space. Klinefelter said they do not know that. He said
there is a set of floor plans in the file from the previous building permit, and there are no drawn
plans of the attic space on those plans. Buss said she thought the Board came to a conclusion
about how wide interior stairs going up to habitable space had to be. Hennes said they took the
approach that if the building had another conforming set of stairs on the outside leading to the
habitable space they would be okay.
Klinefelter said that they measured the existing window to see if it would be possible to remove
the double-hung window and install a casement to meet escape and rescue, and it was only 4.8
square feet, so they can't use the existing opening for an escape/rescue window and would
need to make some modifications to do so. Werderitsch asked if a Certificate of Occupancy was
ever granted. Klinefelter said no. Carlson said the Board discussed the interior stairs issue, and
they established that the interior stairs had to be a certain width between two habitable floors
even if there was a conforming exterior set of stairs. Maas asked if the second floor and the attic
were the same residence. Hennes said yes. Klinefelter said the building code previously allowed
interior stairways serving a dwelling unit to be 30-inches wide. Buss said she was under the
impression that if a building owner had a space like this it had to be locked and the tenants
could not have access to it. Klinefelter said if they came down to obtain a building permit for this
property today they would end up with something that is much different than what is currently up
there, if at all. Buss said the interior stairs leading to the attic are 26.5 inches wide.
Jensen said he missed the site visit. He said they would obviously like to see everything
conform to the most modern building code so the closer the Board could get it to conforming to
the code they happier they would be. Buss asked how quickly a firefighter could get up 26.5-
inch wide stairs with all their equipment on. Jensen said it would be tough to do. Buss asked if
they removed the wall would they still meet the height requirements that figure up overall.
Hennes if the rest of the room is considered, the passage to that access is part of the room and
they would not. Klinefelter said not without major roof modifications.
Carlson asked when the attic was first reoccupied. Fuoss said he just received the brief
chronology earlier that afternoon. He said there was never any agreement as to this unit not
being occupied, and he said what lies before the Board is what the department has tolerated
over the years. He said in the last 14 years that he has owned the property he has followed the
advisement, recommendations and translations of the policies of the City based on the people in
the Housing Inspection Department. He said he has been reinspected, supervised and micro-
analyzed ever since he purchased the house. He said he bought the house in 1983 when he
was a sophomore at the University of Iowa, and soon met an inspector named Dave Malone. He
said when Klinefelter inspected the house in January, he said that the file on the house was
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very thin, and he didn't understand how that could be when he was inspected about every two
weeks. He said everything that is in front of the Board is what has been acceptable for the
Housing Inspection Department. He said he was issued rental and building permits in 1987, and
there was never any agreement as to anyone not occupying that east room on the third floor. He
said inspectors that came through the house advised him that room was conforming based
upon the ceiling height and the size being between 70 and 110 square feet. He said they said
the two windows in that room were enough to suffice based on the room's square footage. He
said every time the property was inspected it happened during January or February, and since
he rents to college students they would have been occupying that space during those months.
He said he has never covered anything up from the City and does not intend to do so now. He
said the property stands as he purchased it in 1983 with the exceptions of having to follow a
number of City recommendations. He said this property went though the HUD rehab program
because he could not afford the City's recommendations and created a lien on the property for
10 years at the expense of about $16,000, along with that $3,000 staircase. He said when this
happened he argued with the City to allow him to put a ladder out the east window on the third
floor because he noticed them on other similar properties around the City and he thought it
would be less expensive than a treated outdoor staircase. He said he lost the argument and had
to construct the staircase. He said every time an inspector went into that east room on the third
floor there was a bed in it, the closet was occupied, and the ceiling height has not changed as
the bottom of the tie rafters is 6'8". He said in the chronology there were some inspections in
1983 credited to a Richard Norton and he was not aware of those so he could not speak for
those.
Carlson asked when in 1983 did Fuoss purchase the house. Fuoss said in July or August.
Roffman noted than an emergency order was issued in 1985 not to use the third floor and the
issue went to court. Fuoss said the staircase was not built in 1985. He said the third floor had
always been occupied until then, and the door out to the west of the house and the staircase
was built in 1986. He said he remembered that that problem centered around egress issues, but
once the door was in everything was fine. Carlson asked if the building was ever used as a
single-family dwelling. Fuoss said when he first purchased the house in 1983 it was used as
single-family, and his first rental permit was issued as a single-family. He said in 1985 the
inspectors started insisting that the property be split as a duplex. He said his first argument was
to let it go as a rooming house because his understanding of the codes at the time was that it
allowed you have to have seven or eight people in the house. He said a couple inspectors
indicated that would not be allowable as far as a rooming house, so it was converted to a
duplex. He said all the major changes were implemented then and the parking areas were
installed. He said additional requirements were a new boiler unit, electrical service and adding a
second kitchen on the second floor. He said Klinefelter told him that he would now have a better
chance of having the property as a rooming house. Klinefelter said that would remove the utility
issue. He said there is no paper trail of any inspections to the house. He said since the staircase
was a rehab project they applied for a building permit, but there was not good communication
between building and rehab at the time. He said obviously no one ever addressed if there was
legal habitable space in the attic. He said Fuoss was probably told that if the exiting was there
that everything was fine. He said there was a building permit issued for the construction of the
exterior stairs alone. Maas asked why a permit would be issued for the stairway if it was not
considered habitable space. He said that made him think that somebody along the line told
Fuoss that he could occupy it, otherwise they wouldn't require the stairway. Buss asked what
can of worms would this open when the Board has refused to allow bigger spaces than this.
Werderitsch asked how Fuoss felt about the five issues that staff has recommended. Fuoss said
he would like to have his $16,000 back and then he would consider it. Werderitsch said Fuoss
had to understand that the codes changed and decisions vary over the period of five years, so
what was right then may not be right now and that is not necessarily a local decision. Fuoss said
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those are some of the issues that they have to live with, but he feels that this is a grandfather
issue due to the fact that he followed the advice of the department and the inspectors during the
entire process. He said to raise rafter ties to seven feet would be a very costly issue. He said
the window measured 2.33 by 2.5, which would be 5.82 square feet, so a casement window
would work for an escape/rescue window. He said he could go to the expense of installing a
casement window, but he would also have to deal with the steel ladder that he originally
intended on doing 14 years ago. Werderitsch said the ladder was not necessary, the window
just has to be accessible for the fire department.
Fuoss said Klinefelter did the rental inspections in 1990 and 1993 and this was never an issue
in his reports. He said creating an opening in the west wall of the east room, which is just north
of chimney, does not seem to be any more sensible than what the two doors are right now. He
said the chimney is a permanent fixture, and the removal of the wall would gain two feet. He
said the doors going from one half of the attic to the second half of the attic are wider than two
feet. He proposed to remove the doors if they want to make that one room. He said in prior
inspections, tenants had put locks on those doors and it was noted that there could not be locks
on those doors so there could be access to the installed egress. He said there is already a hard-
wired smoke detector with back-up batteries, which was one of the City requirements when he
went through the conversion process. He proposed to leave the room stand as it is and leave
the rafter ties as they are. He said being 6'1" and living in the property for two or three years, he
never had to duck in that room and was not concerned about getting out of it.
Buss said she is in the property management business and she is very adamant about siding
with the landlords in most cases, but she has a problem with this space. She said a fire is going
to breakout and a tenant is going to die up there. She said other appeals have come before the
Board that were not this small and they were rejected or required to make changes. She said
'what was then' had no bearing on those issues because this is now. She said she would have
serious problems renting that attic to someone because there is no electricity when the fire
breaks out, they are confused and don't know which way to go and if they can't get out the front
windows they will be in trouble. She said if they could get out of the front windows she would
feel a little bit better, but the walkway would not be considered even if the doors were taken out.
She said if the space was open and there were windows on the end she might think twice about
it, but as it sits now she had a problem with it.
Werderitsch said he did not agree with the two feet because you have to go all the way around
the closet and through, and that is more like a 10' run. He said taking that out (the wall) and the
window are the most important issues as a minimum to him. Maas said he thought the closet
should be removed if Fuoss wants to get closer to the required ceiling height. Fuoss asked if the
closest was counted as living square footage. Hennes said they originally considered that, but
when looking at the exiting pattern of the room he could see where they could want to remove it
and put it in the nonhabitable space. Werderitsch said he thought the most expensive issue
would be the window, and if a casement could fit in there it would save money.
Buss said before the Board would not have allowed this because of the steps. Fuoss said that it
was allowed 14 years ago, and while he knows that the Board is trying to right a wrong, he had
to live on the advisement of what was told to him a number of years ago and now he has to live
on this Board's advisement today. He said he was not pleased with the contradicting stories.
Buss said nobody is, but it is a basic fact of that space being a fire hazard. Fuoss said the space
was never locked to prevent an inspection. Buss said she didn't ask if it was locked to prevent
an inspection. She said that sometimes the City has a policy that if there is a space like this that
is nonconforming and the rest of the property is being rented out, it is acceptable, for a rental
permit, for the door to that space to be locked so the tenants do not have access to it. Fuoss
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said had that been the case he would not have put a door on the west side of the house or
construct the staircase.
Carlson said one reason they want the ceiling up higher is to give the smoke a place to go, but
rafter ties do not inhibit the movement of smoke. He said in a basement they allow ducts down
to 6'8", so the rafter ties being at 6'8" does not bother him. He said a person near that height
would probably not rent that property. He said he understood that the rafter ties should probably
be at 7', but he was more interested in getting an egress window and a connection through that
space so there is access to that west door. He said he had a problem with doing it, period, and
that it probably shouldn't have been allowed to be occupied, but it is rather obvious that Fuoss
was helped to the conclusion that that space could be occupied. Mitchell said it may seem
incredibly unfair, but if a permit is not legal issued at the time it is issued it can be revoked later,
and that does happen from time to time. Fuoss said he thought that spoke of the staff
downstairs at that time, and said the permits were signed at the time.
Klinefelter said they are trying to take a situation that is not very good and that has a bad
history, and offer some reasonable safety provisions for continued use. He said the only thing
about the rafter ties was if they were raised up it would make the space genuinely legal and
habitable. He said he didn't think this was any different than in some places where they have
granted variances for sub-standard ceiling height. He said it might not be as important as the
other issues, but they have tried to reach some compromise to provide reasonable safety
provisions for the use of the attic. Werderitsch asked if the Board was to agree with the
recommendations, with the exception of #1, and Fuoss carried them out, would this house be as
safe as it could be. Carlson said he can't do that because Council could rewrite the housing
code tomorrow and change the standards. Werderitsch said he understood that, and asked if
Fuoss would run into any more problems given today's standards. Klinefelter said if he makes
changes that the Board agrees upon it will be well documented and show a good history of the
changes made, and he could not see why anyone would want to raise this issue again.
Roffman said that part of the ceiling is waferboard and the rafter ties are wood. He asked if that
had to be fire-protected in a duplex. Hennes said he thought that would be classified as a type
V-N building, which would not be rated, so not necessarily. Klinefelter said the permit was
issued under the 1985 Building Code, and it was not until the 1988 UBC that they required a
one-hour separation between dwelling units. Carlson asked if the rest of the issues on the
violation list had been resolved. Klinefelter said the laundry equipment is stored down in the
basement and is not hooked up. He said other than just a few minor things the list has been
taken care of.
MOTION: Werderitsch moved to grant the appeal for the Housing Code Violation at 430 S.
Lucas Street, subject to the property owner completing items 2-5 of the staff recommendations
to get the space back into habitable condition with the thought that the rafter ties being at 6'8",
being that they are existing and that it is allowable headroom in a stair and duct.
Buss asked if this meant that the property owner would have to install an escape/rescue window
in the front and completely open up the space from front to back. Hennes said yes.
Buss seconded the motion.
Buss said she thought that the Board would be opening up a major can of worms because this
is not a dead issue. She said the Board has voted on this before, and fought it over and over.
She said they have fought the issues of the staircase not being wide enough, the rise to run not
being correct, the height only being a couple of inches off, and a twisting indoor staircase that
could not be corrected and the building had a staircase outside to get to the second floor. She
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said she thought this would come back to haunt everybody. Carlson said he agreed. Buss said
she has always voted with the landlord, but she has a problem with this one. Werderitsch asked
what the alternative was if this motion failed. Carlson said the third floor could not be occupied.
Buss said there would have to be a lock on the door to prevent the space from being used. She
said there are a lot of houses in the City that have spaces with higher ceilings, more clearance,
wider stairs that have to have that lock on the door.
Mitchell asked Hennes that if Fuoss did the things on the list, would the property be in
compliance. Hennes said staff felt this was a reasonable solution to the property in this
particular case, but he did not know the Board's history with similar cases. He said to the letter
of the code, this would not be compliant. Buss asked if Fuoss came today and said that he
wanted to make the third floor space habitable and he was willing to install the outside stairway
and the front window, but he wanted to leave the rest of it the way it was, would he be allowed a
permit. Hennes said no. Mitchell asked if these were things that he could get a modification for.
Hennes said no.
Carlson said the interior stairs are overly narrow, too steep and have winders at the bottom. He
said they have moved people out of space far better than that. He said he had a problem with
this whole case because staff helped him get where he is, but that doesn't mean that it is safe or
right.
Hennes called the roll. Werderitsch, Maas, Haman, Buss, Fehr, Roffman and Carlson all voted
no. The motion failed on a vote of 0-7.
Carlson said the space is not safe to be habitable. The outside stairs do not overcome the
problem of the inside stairs, even though they meet the housing code for an exit. He apologized
to Fuoss and said that maintaining the space would not make it right despite what staff had
previously done. Fuoss asked if complying with all of staff's recommendations would change the
vote. Carlson said no. Fuoss said he wished he would have known that decision 14 years ago.
Carlson said if this Board had been there 14 years ago, he would have gotten basically the
same answer. Fuoss said he relied on the professionalism of staff and took, followed and
adhered to their advice and didn't question it. Carlson said the Board does not feel the space is
safe to be inhabited, even with the modifications suggested by staff.
Fuoss asked if the other issues to make this a duplex had been addressed, such as parking.
Klinefelter said the parking is not an issue. He said there is still a violation with the Iowa Utilities
Board, but that is not this Board's purview. He said when the utility issue is resolved and the
attic is vacated and dealt with in a way that it is not accessible to the tenants, a rental permit
would be issued. Fuoss asked what his time frame to comply with the attic issue was. Buss
asked when his leases ran out. Fuoss said August. Buss said that is 45 days. Klinefelter said
that would be reasonable for staff in most situations. The Board decided to give Fuoss until
August 1 to comply with the attic issue. Maas asked if Fuoss could find a way to modify the
interior stairwell to 36 inches wide and 8 and 9 on the rise to run. Hennes said it would also take
some roof modifications because they would then have to ask for 50% required headroom in the
attic.
HEAR A REQUEST FOR A MODIFICATION OF SECTION 1003.3.3.4 QF THE UBC (115 S.
LUCAS ST.):
Loomis said the space complies with the 50% rule over five feet and the stairs are conforming,
except that he has to alter them to turn them up. He showed the plan for the modifications. Buss
asked if there was a landing there. Loomis said yes. He is centering it with the dormer. He said
he can get 6'6" for 16 inches and then it slopes down to about 5'8" with a 12-12 pitch. Buss
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asked about the windows. Loomis said he put in an egress window at the landing, and he
thought the landlord was going to put a fire escape out there. Hennes said it was his
understanding that there would be an egress window up on the third floor level without going to
the stairs and the landing. Loomis said he has not put them in yet on the front and he could do
that above the front porch of the house. Roffman asked what the ceiling height was within the
dotted line. Loomis said 8'6". Buss asked if the space was meant to be used as a bedroom.
Loomis said yes.
(Roffman left at 6:04 p.m.)
Hennes said it would follow rooming house regulations. Members discussed the required ceiling
height and the plans. Loomis said the stairs are 34 1/8" or 34 ~A" wide and there is plenty of
space with the altered stairs. He said he had to alter the steps below to conform to the winding
staircase rules. Werderitsch asked if there was a headroom problem coming down the stairs.
Loomis said he did not measure that. He said a person would have room, but within a foot from
the wall it would get pretty tight. He said that point is over 6'4" and goes up immediately at the
outside edge. Carlson said he saw less of a problem with day to day use, but when a firefighter
has a helmet and a.backpack on it might be more of a problem. Jensen said he did not like it,
but he did not see any alternatives. Werderitsch asked if the valley rafters were cut down.
Loomis said he had to lower the ceiling because he could not get enough insulation in there.
Hennes asked if Loomis could maintain the required height without the insulation. Loomis said
he did not think so. Buss said there are a lot of old houses that have had this problem, but this is
not as bad as what they have had before, so she did not have any problem with it. Loomis said
he would put an egress window on the front over the porch as well as on the landing with the
fire escape. Buss said as long as there was an egress window over the porch she did not-have
a problem with it.
MOTION: Buss moved to approve the modification, subject to an egress window being installed
in the front of the house over the porch and incorporation of the drawings. The additional egress
window would be a modification to the UBC that would allow the Board to approve an exception
for the width of the headroom over the stairs. Haman seconded the motion.
Hennes called the roll. Fehr, Carlson, Buss, Maas, Werderitsch and Haman voted yes. The
motion carried by a vote of 6-0.
HEAR A REQUEST FOR A MODIFICATION OF SECTION 310.6.1 & 2 OF THE UBC (1 OAK
PARK COURT):
Loomis said there was a correction for the appeal form because there is currently an office and
apartment there and they would like to improve the conditions by removing the kitchen,
remodeling the bathroom and upgrading the insulation. He said the ducting is currently at
6'6"with the trim and wrap on it, not the 6'8" as listed on the appeal form. He said from the
concrete floor to the tile ceiling is 7'¼". He said he applied for a 6'10 1/2" ceiling, but he was not
sure that would happen. He said they want to insulate the floor with a 1 ~/2" system and that
would reduce that amount. He said their two requests are a 6'10 ~" ceiling and the ducting at
6'6".
Werderitsch asked if the duct work could be modified. Loomis said he had not talked to the
heating contractor so he did not know what he could do, but said he seldom sees trunk lines
that are much less than six inches. He said they are going to reduce the amount, and he could
talk to the heating contractor. Haman said when they raise the floor it will be more around 6'4".
Loomis said he thought it would still be around 6'6" because he could change the trimming. He
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said the carpet currently down there reduces the ceiling height to 6'11 1/2" and the insulated floor
would definitely lower the ceiling.
Cook said one of the reasons they are remodeling the basement is because it is a damp, moldy
place. He said it was an apartment when the house was built in 1952 and it remained one until
about 1991 when they took it over and let the duplex status end. He said they are pressing this
because his wife has a terrible mold allergy, so they want to get as much carpet out of the
house as possible and put in insulated tiling. He said they have lived at the property for 14
years. Loomis said there is a 3'6" by 6' ¼" egress door. He said there is another exit to get to
the house, but none of the windows are egress windows.
Buss said she did not have a problem with approving this. Carlson said the Board has allowed
shorter ceilings. Cook said they would like to see the ducts kept as high as possible.
MOTION: Carlson moved to accept this as reasonable accommodation being that the floor has
adequate egress directly to the exterior plus egress to the upper floors and egress windows,
that the exception be granted to the ceiling height requirement with the understanding that the
ducts will be up tight to the joists to minimize the lack of height at that location. Buss seconded
the motion.
Hennes called the roll. Fehr, Carlson, Maas, Buss, Haman and Werderitsch voted yes. The
motion carried by a vote of 6-0.
OTHER BUSINESS:
There was none.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION: Maas moved to adjourned the meeting. Werderitsch seconded the motion. The
motion carried by a vote of 6-0, and the meeting was adjourned at 6:30 p.m.
Minutes submitted by Traci Wagner.
MINUTES
IOWA CITY PUBLIC ART ADVISORY COMMITTEE
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 1999, 3:30 PM
IOWA CITY LOBBY CONFERENCE ROOM
PRELIMINARY
Subject to Approval
MEMBERS PRESENT: Nancy Purington, Rick Fosse, Gary Nagle, Emily Vermillion, Sandra Hudson
MEMBERS ABSENT: Deb Galbraith, Terry Trueblood
STAFF PRESENT: Karin Franklin, Joyce Carroll
OTHERS PRESENT: Kevin Hanick, Larry Eckholt, Charles Read, Ann Reinhardt
CALL TO ORDER:
Franklin served as chair pending the election of officers. The meeting was called to order at 3:45 P.M.
She welcomed Vermillion and Hudson as new additions to the committee.
PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF ANY ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA:
None
CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 14 MEETING:
Fosse moved to approve the minutes of October 14 with a second made by Purington. The minutes
were approved by unanimous consent.
ELECTION OF OFFICERS
Franklin explained that new officers 'would need to be elected with the resignation of Kevin Hanick and
Lesley Wright. The first position'open was the chair and Fosse nominated Purington with Nagle
seconding the motion. Purington was elected by unanimous consent as chair of the committee.
The second position was for the vice-chair with Galbraith being nominated by Nagle and Fosse
seconding the motion. Galbraith was elected as vice-chair by unanimous consent.
Purington took over as chair of the meeting.
ARTS IOWA CITY PROPOSAL
Larry Eckholt and Charles Read were presented as members of the board for Arts Iowa City. Due to
Pudngton's association with Arts Iowa City she recused herself from this portion of the meeting.
Nagle asked for further explanation of the $15K requested by Ads Iowa City that would be used for
operating costs.
Eckholt explained that the issue had grown out of the ceramics exhibition that took place in the City
Plaza level of the location at 129 E. Washington. This location is a prime location in downtown Iowa
City. He explained that the attendance at this event was astonishing. There is no comparison to the
attendance at the normal location of Arts Iowa City in the lower level of the Jefferson Building. He said
this exhibit was the catalyst that spurred the Arts Iowa City group to begin looking at the City Plaza
location as a more permanent location; however there is a much higher rental cost that is set at
$4330/month for 4,000 sq. feet of space. Eckholt went on to explain that the bulk of the request would
allow the group to afford to pay rent in a prime location in downtown as well as a higher utility cost.
There is minimal staff with mostly volunteers serving the organization.
Arts Iowa City is now pursuing funding sources for these expenses. Eckholt said that they are now
asking for a one-time allocation of $15K that would go towards a $60K budget to keep the space.
They would like to see a commitment made for three years.
Read then explained that Godfather's Pizza is currently leasing, but not using the space. It is through
Purington's effort that they were able to get the space for two months initially and now they are
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looking for a longer time period. He went on to say that the lease that Godfather's has runs through
until July, 2002. This is why the three-year period is being sought.
Read also noted that the City Council granted $15K with the City Council asking that Arts Iowa City
come to this committee. Read said that he felt the Council saw that it is a good project and met the
downtown policy strategy. The city does support other arts projects such as Jazz Fest and Riverside
Theatre. Read noted that Purington has been able to get an additional .two months of free rent until
January 1, 2000. This then leaves two and one-half years that funding will have to be obtained.
Therefore, the $15K request will be part of the immediate solution.
Eckholt said that the owner is under pressure from Godfather's Pizza to rent the space, He indicated
things are happening very fast downtown in relationship to property.
Nagle then confirmed with Franklin that there are funds. Franklin then explained that when Arts Iowa
City approached the Council the request was for a three-year commitment of $30K per year. The
Council was not willing to make that commitment. The discussion lead to a $15K allocation to assure
that Arts Iowa City could stay in the space for at least three more months. Within that time the
expectation would be that the group would come back to Council with a business plan as to how to
keep the entity going.
Franklin then explained that during the Council discussion it was suggested that all of the funding
come from the Public Art source. The .City Manager suggested that $15K come from the general fund
and during this time Arts Iowa City 'Would come back to the Council with the financial plan. She went
on to say that if the Committee decides it is appropriate for an additional $15K to come from the
$100K a year allocation to the Public Art function then that would go back as a recommendation to
City Council. At that point the City Coundl may either go forward with the $15K or they may not
approve it, as they have the final approval. They may request the business plan before giving the
approval. Franklin suggested there will need to be some detail given to the City Council in regard to
the financial situation of the organization.
Vermillion inquired as to how the additional $30K would be obtained to meet the $60K revenue
expectation. Eckholt indicated that there would be more fund raising going on. There already has
been support shown to obtain these funds. He went on to say with one half a year funding in place it
will be easier to obtain the additional $30K.
Vermillion then said that she felt $30K was achievable in this time period. She inquired as to the
building owner's commitment to leasing the building to Arts Iowa City. Read explained that they can
not sign a three-year lease until it is determined where the funds will come from and determine the
exact cost.
Vermillion then said she does not see how the request could be turned down. She said she walked by
the building noting what a great opportunity it would be to have a gallery in the space.
She went on to say that it is very important for downtown to grow aesthetically and culturally. We need
to clue into the uniqueness of the downtown area.
Eckholt said he is a big downtown advocate. He commented that he works at the library and has seen
a lot of growth in businesses such as Fired Up Iowa City that promotes creativity. Soon to open will be
a new business called the Art Mission. He said that when adding Arts Iowa City to the current mix, a
unique environment is created.
Read then pointed out that we all are aware of the number of businesses closing up in the recent
past. There are a good number of people driving past Iowa City to go to the Amanas. He said the way
to draw people is to have a cultural district and Arts Iowa City will be an important part of this.
Hudson then commented that 'she is very excited about the idea; however she was concerned about
the authority of this committee to authorize the funds. She noted that in the resolution creating the
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Committee the authority had been broad enough to cover this area. She went on to say she has
concerns with the way the rules and bylaws were drafted.
Franklin then said that Hudson was making a good point. She said she felt that is was important that
the Committee make the decision based upon the mission statement and objectives. According to the
objectives there is a particular statement that says, "to contribute to the art education of the citizen's of
Iowa City." Franklin said she felt the Committee needed to find a place within the objectives if the
Committee intended to make an affirmative decision on this. It is very easy to say that one is
concerned about downtown, but this group needs to maintain focus on the mission or objectives of the
Committee.
Vermillion then commented that coming from a gallery background there is always the educational
component of any gallery. She felt that this gallery is very public and visible in the heart of downtown.
It truly serves an educational component in and of itself and that Arts Iowa City will need to fulfill its
mission in educating the public. It is one thing to put out the objects for objects' sake, but through their
marketing, teaching and lectures this would serve as a reason for approval.
Vermillion then noted a portion of Arts Iowa City bylaws. It read that it is to serve as a center for the
arts and to sponsor such art activities as educational programming, exhibitions, performances and
events in the Iowa City and Johnson County area and to serve as a resource center for artists seeking
information for organizations, institutions or businesses wanting to involve artists in their activities.
Nagle then asked if items in the gallery are for sale. Franklin stated that a portion of any sale does go
to Arts Iowa City, but it is a non-profit organization. This was a very important point as far as the City
Council was concerned. One thing that staff and Council struggled with was to distinguish it from other
gallery space. The difference is that Arts Iowa City is a non-profit organization as opposed to a for
profit business.
Nagle then inquired if this could be questioned with funding going to an organization that would be in
competition with other businesses. Read then explained that the business people feel that this
enhances the area. Businesses feel that this enhances their opportunities. Franklin also explained
that the educational component was another aspect that was discussed by the Council.
Eckholt noted that not all items in the gallery are for sale. It does vary from show to show. The space
being considered does allow for a gift shop that would allow local artists who do not have
representatives, or artists just getting into the business to have an outlet.
Hudson then said she agreed with all of this; however she wanted to be assured that the by-laws
allow for positive action on this. She suggested the by-laws could be amended. Franklin suggested
the authority wasgiven to oversee expenditures in the by-laws and then by using the mission
statement and objectives as the guide, specific expenditure decisions could be made. It could be
agreed that the Committee had the authority to recommend this expenditure. Franklin then re-iterated
that the Council does make the final decision.
Vermillion then asked when it would go before the Council. Franklin said the minutes will go to the
Council on November 23rd. Whether they chose at that point to authorize the $15K to Arts Iowa City is
a question because the Council may want to see the business plan before any additional allocation is
made. Franklin said the Council wanted to hear the Committee's recommendation on use of the public
art funds.
Nagle then inquired about the effect of an allocation on the budget. Franklin indicated that for the
current fiscal year there will be no impact. Money was carried over and at the start of the new year the
fund totaled $152K. Since then approximately $26K has been expended. The upcoming projects
include the sculpture call responses that will come in in December. The sculptures will probably not be
paid for until the spring. The Literary Walk will be a future expense in upcoming years.
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Nagle then went on to say that he thinks the project is a good idea, however he has a concern with
the city subsidizing a not for profit organization that is subsidizing for-profit artists. Franklin then said
this was done with Jazz Fest and other events.
Nagle then asked if this organization is set up the same as other galleries. He wondered if this gallery
perhaps pulls business away from other businesses. Eckholt commented that this has been
discussed. In typical galleries .at least fifty percent is taken and in this gallery thirty percent will
probably be the amount the gallery will be taking. Nagle then said this is his exact concern in that the
city may be subsidizing an entity that would take away from other businesses downtown.
Read then said Arts Fest is purely for profit and it is subsidized. Franklin then commented that there
are not a lot of outlets for artists in Iowa City. She does not see this happening in this case. She noted
the Council often looks at this issue in relationship to the private sector in projects they subsidize. She
went on to say that this concern is often overcome when a public benefit is derived from the event or
activity such as Jazz Fest and Arts Fest.
Eckholt then went on to say that this is not where the gallery makes their money. On a good year the
gallery makes about $400 by work sold of local artists. Read then said he had a one-man show at the
gallery last year with ten or twelve photographs in it and he did not sell any of them. Sales of displays
are unusual.
Hudson said that she was satisfied this issue does fall within the resolution. She did not see a strong
area within the by-laws, but there is an opportunity in the language that allows for such a project.
Nagle then asked what percentage of the budget would be used for educational purposes. Vermillion
noted it is very difficult to separate the educational component from the exhibition component. Eckholt
then said in his mind to display is to educate. This makes education at the top of the organization's
activities.
Fosse commented from his perspective that there is the technical means to make the commitment.
He then suggested that the approval be contingent upon approval of the business plan. The
committee agreed that this needed to be done to satisfy the Council's request.
Eckholt said the business plan will likely be in place by the end of the year. Having the commitment
from the committee will make putting the plan together more feasible.
Vermillion then made the motion as follows: This committee allocate $15K for the use of Ads Iowa
City for FY2000. Funding is conditional upon the business plan's approval by the City Council.
Hudson seconded the motion. The motion was approved by unanimous consent.
Purington re-joined the meeting.
DISCUSSION OF IOWA AVENUE LITERARY WALK
Kevin Hanick, speaking as a member of the public, presented an idea of a bronze plaque that was
used at a home in Johnson County. It was a rendition from Canterbury Tales. He also presented
some examples of opening paragraphs from novels by Iowa authors. One was a book called State's
Evidence by Steven Greenleaf of Centerville. Another one was Shoeless Joe by W.P. Kinsella and
Curtis Harnack's book called The Work of an Ancient Hand. He also presented a poem by Amy
Clampitt called What the Light Was Like. At some point types of work will be discussed and these are
simply ideas he suggested.
Ann Reinhart of Brian Clark and Associates presented to the committee a booklet of additional
examples and ideas for the project. She reviewed the booklet with the two best examples being in the
U.K. The first one is called The Fish Trail and did not limit the medium in the streets, with text in the
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streets, stamped bricks, etching in concrete, etc. This has the same theme throughout, but has
multiple types of work. The following pages showed varied types of work using different medium.
Ann also is working on another example that was done is Scotland that carried the theme throughout
an entire town. She is hoping to obtain some images to present in the future.
Franklin indicated that a concept needs to be ,decided by the committee so that when construction
plans are completed, proper material is planned for in the initial construction. Portions of the
pavement could be removed later to accommodate the inlay art pieces.
Franklin also suggested that the project start between Linn and Dubuque Streets in the 200 block,
rather than starting in the 300 block. The 300 block will be constructed next summer. Choosing the
200 block will take some time pressure off; however the committee does need to come up with a
concept.
Purington suggested that the committee look through the document that Reinhart presented and that
a timeline be established.
The committee agreed to start the project in the 200 block of Iowa Avenue. Fosse indicated that the
refined concept will need to be completed by 10/1/00 and the objects will need to be made by 2001.
The committee decided to identify for the next meeting a list of possibilities for the sub-committee that
will identify the literary artists to possibly use in the walk. In addition, twenty-five pavement artists will
be identified for the next meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS
Franklin posed the question of international artists being considered for cells. She has had an inquiry
from artists in Italy and Canada. Purington commented that boundaries have been a consideration in
past calls. Expense was a consideration. Fosse said that a set per diem is used for travel expense
and he felt the committee had nothing to lose in opening up a call. Hudson felt that there could be an
exciting concept that could originate internationally and that the fabrication could be done in the
States. Vermillion pointed out that the feet that walk the streets of Iowa City are from all around the
wodd. If Iowa City is going to establish itself as a cultural center then the committee may want to
consider opening the door. The committee agreed to not limit submissions and perhaps limit the
boundaries for certain projects in the future.
The next meeting was set for December 2, 1999.
ADJOURNMENT
Fosse moved to adjourn the meeting with Purington seconding the motion. The meeting adjourned at
5:20PM.
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SPECIAL MEETING - BOARD OF TRUSTEES
IOWA CITY PUBLIC LIBRARY
OCTOBER 20, 1999
2~;n FLOOR CONFERENCE ROOM
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Winston Barclay, Linda Dellsperger, Mary McMurray, Shaner Magalhfies, Mark Martin, Lisa Parker,
Linda Prybil, Jim Swaim,
STAFF PRESENT: Maeve Clark, Susan Craig, Larry Eckholt. Martha Lubaroff, Heidi Lauritzen, Liz
Nichols, Debb Green
Martin called the meeting to order at 5:10 pm
OLD BUSINESS:
FYO1 Budget Development
The purpose of this special meeting is to review FY01 budget request for the second time and approve
before it is submitted to the City. Craig clarified her cover memo. She answered questions about the
Personnel estimates. She asked for more in the overtime line to accomodate our part time permanent
people. This includes budgeting for overtime for the new Maintenance staff.
Substantial increases in supplies have to do with collection maintenance, computer supplies and new
programming goals.
Services. Craig used the City's projection for building maintenance since it is possible we will
need to spend substantial money to repair building. Other increased items remained as they were at the
September meeting. OCLC increases, copier rental and maintenance, and costs for new customer service
initiatives.
Parker moved approval of the budget. Barclay seconded. There was no discussion. Motion carried
unanimously.
Building Project
A discussion took place about the upcoming joint meeting with Council. Trustees discussed the criteria
developed at the first meeting with the architect by the staff, building committee, City staff and Council
representatives. Of the nine plans that currently exist, the architects will have put together enough
information to allow evaluation by the 15th. The goal is to select one or two plans and eliminate the rest.
Martin feels that City Council members will want to look at them all and understand why certain plans
should be eliminted, even if it is obvious. Architects suggested we develop some sort of objective scale
so that they could do an initial assessment of all the plans. Several criterion will be ranked that will be
shared with the Council members. The Board agreed that parking is an important criteria. Martin
remembered that in their previous meeting with architects adequate area, parking and functional
arrangement were ranked high. He does not see that these will change significantly. City staff felt that
impact on the Pedestrian Mall would be a significant criteria for them. Parking might not be a high
priority for the Board, however continuing to stress the need for parking options like read and park
programs was a high priority.
Impact on interim library operations would be a criterion that would affect the City greatly since the
public would be dissatisfied with closing the library. Reconfiguring this current building regardless of
how would be impossible to do without affecting service - some options would require closing. The
plan for expanding west to the Lenoch & Cilek building is now back on the drawing board. That plan
would not include additional parking. The attraction of that expansion means that some private enterprise
would be included. Our highest priority is 80,000 square feet, with some adaptability and expandability.
Parking and impact on interim operations are important to the success of the project. The consensus of
the Board is that either destroying or selling this current building could be a difficult idea to put forth.
The Board went on record as having indicated their support for the criteria developed by the Building
Committee and wished them well.
Adjoumment at 6:00 pm. McMurray/Swaim
MINUTES
IOWA CITY PUBLIC LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES
REGULAR MEETING OCTOBER 28, 1999
MEETING ROOM A
THURSDAY, - 5:00 PM
Members Present:
Winston Barclay, Linda Dellsperger, Mary McMurray, Mark Martin, Jim Swaim,
Lisa Parker, Linda Prybil, Shaner, Magalhfies, Jesse Singerman
Staff Present:
Maeve Clark, Barbara Black, Susan Craig, Larry Eckholt, Debb Green, Heidi
Lauritzen, Liz Nichols
CALL TO ORDER:
President Martin called the meeting to order at 5:00 pm
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Move approval of regular meeting of September 23, 1999. Magalh~es/Parker
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Building Project:
Martin reported on a recent meeting of the Building Committee. He reported that some preliminary
information on cost was received from the architects. Construction costs were not startlingly different
between proposals.
He then reported on a meeting earlier in the week with the architects, some City staff and the Mayor where
these preliminary costs were presented. An estimated cost on relocation was also developed. Craig quickly
reviewed the various plans for trustees. Retaining and using this current building does mean completely
gutting and redoing structurally the entire building. Essentially the building would be gone except for a shell.
Architects state it would be easier and less expensive to tear the building down and rebuild. Martin explained
that the standards for library buildings have changed requiring this extensive level of remodeling. At the
meeting, a great deal of time was spent on the evaluation chart that library staff worked on for functional
arrangement. The importance factors were worked on by the group, which included the Mayor, City manager
and City planners, who met during the aRemoon following the morning meeting between the architects and
library managers. There is some question as to the process and how and by whom it will be handled at the
joint meeting. Architects will present first, describing all the components, costs, etcs. They will explain the
evaluation process. Architects will complete
a chart that rates the proposals on a point scale based on the criteria developed. The City staff assigned
points based on economics, aesthetic impact on plaza, parking and impact on the downtown. Architects will
come up with the finished numbers. It would be safe to say that, as a Board, we wouldn't want to move out
of this building for 18 months. Board has stressed adequate parking, functionality, etc.
There was some consideration given to discussing the evaluation process to date more thoroughly at this
meeting; others felt we needed more information from the architects and could review it on the 15th prior to
the City Council joint meeting. A 4:00 meeting on the 15th was suggested. Martin felt strongly that we be
in agreement for the meeting on the 15th. Singerman is concerned that two hours prior to the Council meeting
may not give us enough time to come to this type of conclusion. Martin felt that with the architect's
assessment, which would not be available until the 15th, it should be an easier decision to arrive at before the
joint meeting. As a compromise, Martin proposed that the Building Committee meet earlier to look at the
final evaluations and prepare a presentation for the rest of the Board that might simplify the process. The
Committee will meet at 2:15 pm on Saturday, November 13. Craig will contact the architects and find out
how soon they can get us additional information in order to facilitate this plan. If it appears that the material
is much too complex, a special meeting will be called at a different time, otherwise a special Board meeting
will be held at 4:00 on October 15.
Park 'n Read
Craig neglected including a bus pass request in the proposal for the Board in terms of parking. She asked for
approval to include bus passes. Swaim moved that we amend the Park' n read approval to include bus
passes. Seconded by Dellsperger. Unanimous
NEW BUSINESS
None
STAFF REPORTS
New Web Page: The Board adjourned to Meeting Room D to have a hands-on demonstration of the new web
page. Craig asked members to use the page every chance they get and report corrections or make suggestions.
Community Reading Month and other programming. The celebrity booktalk lunch kicked off the series
with a record tumout of nearly 200 people yesterday. Three more are scheduled on November 3, 10 and 17th.
A visiting childrens author was hosted. "What makes it great", a series in partnership with Hancher kicked
off with a program featuring conductor and music director of the National Symphony Orchestra, Leonard
Slatkin. The Library Channel has expanded its automated hours. Logsden read excerpts from a letter received
from a jail patron who is reading "Harry Potter".
Return of Library materials: As a follow-up to a patron's dissatisfaction with the policy regarding the return
of library materials, Lauritzen wrote a memo for the packet outlining Circulation's policy for handling
returns. There has been a change since we have the new III system. The check in receipt addresses the needs
of a small number of borrowers; it is not necessary to publicize the feature unless people ask for it. Lauritzen
was complimented for her memo.
Development Office Report was included in packet. Mark your calendars for Book Gala on November 7 at
Prairie Lights. A question regarding the financial statement for the BookEnd was raised. For the first quarter
they cleared $3-4,000. Hope to clear about $20,000 this year. Changes in Friends Foundation Bylaws have
been finalized and approved.
Iowa Library Association. Craig reported on the conference attended by several staffmembers recently in
Dubuque. Next year it is in Ames. Trustees are invited.
Innovative Interfaces meeting for public librarians. Craig attended and felt it was informative to meet with
other directors of public libraries to discuss various issues with the III system.
Internet filtering legislation. Letter from Gina Milsap, current chair of Government Affairs Committee.
Included in Board packet
Inservice Day. Updated program was distributed at meeting. Trustees were encouraged to attend. Nichols
feels that this may be the strongest series of programs we've had. Difficult to choose which ones they want
to attend. All Board members are invited.
First ever Late Night at the Library. Black reported on this ovemight at the library for teens. Ended up with
forty 7th graders signing up. Media specialists in the junior high buildings encouraged students. They were
introduced to the building and staff, informed about library services and encouraged to read. Tours and
demonstrations of the catalog were offered as well as treasure hunt, games, dance and of course, pizza. Black
stated that this never could have been carried out without tremendous support and participation from staff.
Approximately 100 hours in volunteer time from staff were given.
PRESIDENT'S REPORT
Given in old business as part of the building report.
FINANCIAL REPORTS
Expenses in good shape for this time of year.
Receipts are down a little, particularly in fines and fees. Craig said that good public service results in less
fines. In particular, the remote book drops and the ability to renew from home computers have helped patrons
reduce their fines.
Receipts in Enterprise fund are up.
Gifts & Bequests Report
Circulation by Type and Format. Prim circulation is going down. Nonprint is going up. Balance makes us
pretty even.
Output Statistics were distributed at meeting. Meeting room use is up.
DISBURSEMENTS
Review VISA expenditures for September 1999.
Approve disbursements for September, 1999 McMurray/Parker
SET AGENDA ORDER FOR NOVEMBER MEETING
Special meeting on November 15, followed by joint meeting with Council.
Meeting in November will be the week before Thanksgiving. Martin will need to leave early.
ADJOURNMENT:
6:45 pm
Minutes recorded
Martha Lubaroff
MINUTES
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
NOVEMBER 18, 1999 - 7:30 P.M.
SENIOR CENTER CLASSROOM
MEMBERS PRESENT: Ann Bovbjerg, Benjamin Chait, Pam Ehrhardt, Dick Gibson, Marilyn
Schintler, Dean Shannon, Lea Supple
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Sarah Holecek, Scott Kugler, Bob Miklo, Melody Rockwell
OTHERS PRESENT: Bill Happel, Gary Watts, Larry Schnittjer, Steve Kohl, George Dane
RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL:
Recommended approval, by a vote of 5-1 with Ehrhardt voting no, of REZ99-0012, an
application submitted by Southpointe Padners to rezone 2.72 acres from Low Density Single-
Family Residential (RS-5) to Sensitive Areas Overlay-Low Density Residential (OSA-5) zone
and approval of a preliminary Sensitive Areas Development Plan for property located at the
north side of Rohret Road west of Highway 218.
Recommended approval, by a vote of 7-0, of REZ99-0011, an application submitted by
Arlington L.C. to rezone 13.26 acres from Low Density Multi-Family Residential (RM-12) and
Medium Density Single Family Residential (RS-8) to Planned Development Housing Overlay
(OPDH-12)-11.79 acres and (OPDH~8) 1.47 acres and approval of a preliminary OPDH plan for
Windsor Ridge, Part 15, a proposed 98-unit residential development located north of Court
Street at its eastern terminus.
Recommended approval, by a vote of 7-0, of SUB99-0008, a preliminary plat of South Pointe
Addition, Part Seven, an 8.08-acre, 25-1ot residential subdivision with two outlots located at the
west terminus of Langenberg Avenue and Hemingway Lane, subject to approval of a grading
plan prior to Council consideration of the plat.
Recommended approval, by a vote of 7-0, of SUB99-0024, a final plat of Westcott Heights Part
Two, a 24.99-acre, four-lot residential subdivision located in Johnson County at the west end of
Westcott Drive NE and Rose Bluff Circle NE, subject to the approval of legal papers prior to
Council consideration of the plat.
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Supple called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF ANY ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA:
There was none.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF VACANCIES ON CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS:
Supple invited those at the meeting to serve on a board or commission for the City of Iowa City.
She said it is an opportunity to have input into the City and learn how the City works and
progresses. Supple said the input would be invaluable, and she hoped those at the meeting
would consider serving in this way.
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REZONING ITEMS:
REZ99-0012. Public discussion of an application submitted by Southpointe Partners to rezone
2.72 acres from Low Density Single-Family Residential (RS-5) to Sensitive Areas Oveday-Low
Density Residential (OSA-5) zone for property located at the north side of Rohret Road west of
Highway 218. (45-day limitation period waived to November 18, 1999)
Rockwell referred .'.o correspondence in the Commission's packet from neighboring property
owners who are objecting to this rezoning and planned development. She said the Commission
is reviewing a revised plan submitted two weeks previously. The revised plan shows that trees
would not be planted within the critical slopes, but the plan is otherwise the same as was
presented before. Rockwell said the applicant has also submitted a letter explaining that his
experience with this type of unit over time has shown that it does not attract families with
children.
Holecek said she wished to state for the record that at the previous formal meeting of the
Commission, one of the neighboring property owners stated that she made a protest of her
property assessment to the Board of Review, based on the proposed rezoning on an adjacent
property by the Greater Iowa City Housing Fellowship. Holecek said she spoke with the tax
assessor, who informed her that the basis for the reduction in the tax assessment was that the
assessor had carried the property as having a fully finished basement, when in actuality it was
not fully finished. Holecek said based on that error, a correction was made to the assessed
value. She said the basis upon which an assessment can be protested is statutorily laid out, and
it would not be a basis to use speculative grounds to say what a possible rezoning to an
adjacent property would do this to the property. Holecek said what would have to happen would
be to document after a rezoning was approved and a project built that there was a reduction in
property values of other comparable properties in the area.
Public discussion:
Bill Happel. 2355 Willowbrooke Lane, said he was available to answer any questions. Schintler
said she looked at the property and noted on the plan that garages are shown on the back.
Happel said the garages would be the same as at Willowbrooke Point. He said the three-
bedroom units will have the double garage to the front and double garage to the side, and the
two single garages will go to the two bedroom units. Happel said people really want to have a
double garage. He said he felt this plan would provide that, and even though not all the garages
would be attached, every home would have two stalls in garages. Happel added that the
garages would also act as a noise buffer between the residential units and Highway 218.
Bovbjerg said the plan notes state that there is a nominal building height at 32 feet, plus or
minus. She said she was concerned about hovering buildings in an area where houses are
probably 25 to 30 feet high. Happel said these are two-story buildings. He said he did not know
what the height of the building was. Bovbjerg asked if the 35-foot maximum height for a building
would be enforced here. Rockwell confirmed this. She said the applicant has not asked for a
waiver for building height. Bovbjerg said unnecessarily tall, hovering buildings, especially with
other less tall buildings around, can be disturbing.
Happel said Willowbrooke Point has residential single-family houses on two sides. He said
single-family homes would only be on one side of the Duck Creek Condominiums. Happel said
ten years ago when he brought the Willowbrooke Point Condominiums plan to Iowa City, the
neighbors in that area objected, with as many people for it as against, even though people
usually do not come to speak out for a project. He said he has lived at the Willowbrooke Pointe
Condominiums for ten years, and many of the neighbors who complained initially have now told
him that it is a nice addition and they are satisfied with that addition to their neighborhood.
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Happel said traffic counts show that there are many fewer trips per day in and out of the
neighborhood for families without children. He said this development will really not be
compatible for families with children, and he really expects few, if any, children to live in this
development.
Ehrhardt said one of the arguments against this was the lack of a transition between RS-5 and
these four-plexes, which would not be allowed in the RS-8 zone, let along the RS-5 zone. She
said one compromise would be to have a duplex on the north, instead of the four-plex, so that
the transition would be more gradual. Ehrhardt asked Happel if he would consider that. Happel
said he would be against that; he said one reason is that you do not want to have different types
of units within a development.
Public discussion closed.
MOTION: Shannon moved to recommend approval of REZ99-0012, an application
submitted by Southpointe Partners to rezone 2.72 acres from Low Density Single-Family
Residential (RS-5) to Sensitive Areas Overlay-Low Density Residential (OSA-5) zone and
approval of a preliminary Sensitive Areas Development Plan for property located at the
north side of Rohret Road west of Highway 218. Chait seconded the motion.
Bovbjerg commended the designers of this development for working with the hill and said she
hoped all the dirt that can be left is left and that nothing washes down the hill. She wished the
applicant well and said this could be a good example of tucking in some "plexes."
Ehrhardt said one problem she had with the Greater Iowa City Housing Fellowship concept was
the transition between zones. She said she could see that type of development in a brand new
neighborhood; however, in an established RS-5 neighborhood, this is putting in a development,
even though this is a planned development, that is jumping one entire zone, because four°
plexes are not allowed in RS-8 zone, which would be the next higher zone. Ehrhardt said she
would like to see the north four-plex be a duplex to provide more transition between the single-
family RS-5 zone and an area that is actually RM-12. She said she liked the design of these
buildings in that they look much more like houses than in the previous application, but would not
vote in favor of this application because of the lack of transition.
Schintler said she would rather have seen the area left RS-5, but she felt because of the shape
of the property and other constraints, this property would keep coming back to the Commission
until something is approved. She said she really liked the design of this and would be voting in
favor.
Supple said she preferred this design to what was before the Commission the first time. She
said these buildings are less "in your face." Supple said in the previous design there was a wall
of townhouses along Rohret Road that seemed very uninviting. She said this plan overcomes
that objection a little more and is a little less of an invasion of the privacy of the neighbors
directly to the north. Supple said these are still massive buildings, and she is concerned about
that, but the appearance from the streets will be satisfactory. She said they are designed to look
like single-family homes, and so she finds this application acceptable and will vote in favor.
The motion carried on a vote of 5-1. with Ehrhardt voting no.
REZ99-0011. Public discussion of an application submitted by Arlington L.C. to rezone 13.26
acres from Low Density Multi-Family Residential (RM-12) and Medium Density Single Family
Residential (RS-8) to Planned Development Housing Overlay (OPDH-12)-11.79 acres and
(OPDH-8) 1.47 acres and approval of preliminary OPDH plan for Windsor Ridge, Part 15, a
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proposed 98-unit residential development located north of Court Street at its eastern terminus.
(45-day limitation period expires November 18, 1999)
Kugler said this was deferred at the Commission's last meeting, and since then additional
information has been submitted, including a couple of revisions to the development plan and
some missing elevations. He said the application has now been amended to include the
proposed outlot as part of the application. Kugler said the outlot area would be zoned PDH-8,
although it would not have a density assigned to it. He said the rezoning just makes, it part of
this application and ensures that the open space will be there as the property develops.
Regarding the revisions to the development plan, Kugler said all of the errors have now been
corrected, and the plan is ready to be voted on. He said there has been a change since the
informal meeting, at which there was discussion about the trail and whether it should be
extended to Court Street at this time or whether there should be an escrow for its construction in
order to build it when the property to the west comes in for development. Kugler said the
application has been amended so that the building in the southwest corner has been reduced
from a six-unit to a four-unit building. He said that would free up enough space along the west
edge of the property to get the grade established and also to extend the trail along the sanitary
sewer easement and on down to Court Street. Kugler said the applicant has indicated he will
extend the trail as the property develops, rather than deal with an escrow.
Regarding building elevations, Kugler showed rear and side elevations for the larger of the 12-
unit buildings at the two corners. He said the elevations show that the building materials to be
used on the front will be carried around all four sides of the building. Kugler showed elevations
for the four-plex townhouses proposed along the east side of Camden Road and the building at
the southwest corner that will now be of the same design, and elevations for the six-unit
building. He said staff feels the four-unit building will fit nicely along Camden Road as a
transition to the lower density area to the north. Kugler said the plan for the six-unit building was
revised to show an offset in the building to address what was previously a long, uninterrupted
roof plane. He said half of the building is set back an additional five feet to break up the longer
roof plane. Kugler said staff feels this is a successful way to handle that issue.
Kugler said staff recommends approval of this application with no conditions. He added that
staff has been assured by the applicant that the 35-foot building height limitation of the RM-12
zone would be met; therefore no waiver is needed. Kugler said that measurement would be at
the lowest point, in this case the rear elevation.
Bovbjerg asked about the grade of the two big buildings along Court Street relative to the
sidewalk. Kugler said the building height would be higher at the rear of the building. Kugler
pointed out that the windows on the front elevation are closer to the ground than in the back. He
said the side elevation shows the change of grade from front to back. Kugler said that permits
the first floor of the building to be accessible without requiring outside ramps or a lift. He said the
building height is measured from the lowest point around the building to the midpoint of the roof
between the eaveline and the ridgeline. Kugler said the applicant has assured staff that the
midpoint will be less than 35 feet above grade. He said since that requirement is not being
waived as part of the rezoning process, the applicant would have to demonstrate at the time of
requesting the building permit that the height requirement is being met, or a building permit
cannot be issued.
Bovbjerg said it appears that the ground slopes down from the road into the parcel. Kugler said
as you move back from Camden Road in each direction, the ground does slope down. Bovbjerg
asked about the grade from Court Street into the parcel of land. Kugler said Larry Schnittjer may
be able to give better details about the proposed grades.
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(Gibson arrived at the meeting at 8:00 p.m.)
Ehrhardt pointed out that windows were added to the garages on the side elevation of
Building A. Kugler said they were added and would help to break up the long plane of the
garage walls.
Supple asked if the trail would then be totally on this property. Kugler confirmed this and said
there is a note on the plan indicating that the d~veloper will install the trail and this will occur as
the property develops.
Public discussion:
Gary Watts. 4988 Lower West Branch Road, said he definitely is a proponent of trails and firmly
believes in them. He said there are over three miles of trails in Windsor Ridge, and he did not
want to leave development of the trail up to adjacent property owners or leave it to an escrow or
line of credit. Watts said he felt it was important enough to remove a couple of units. Watts
agreed that the former roofline design for the six-plex was long and extended and felt that
breaking that up and moving three of the units back five feet resulted in a better design.
Watts said he has worked eight to nine months on this plan and had a good working relationship
with staff. He said this has a nice streetscape. Watts said the corner twelve-plexes have been
turned at an angle and are designed as larger buildings with screened-in porches. He said the
four-plexes with the garages to the rear also look very good. Watts showed on the map an area
where the greenway/common space was expanded, because it gives a buffer from residents to
the west looking out the fronts of their homes into the backs of other units. He said that provides
for a better project with more open space in-between the buildings.
Bovbjerg asked a question regarding the grade, and Watts responded that the pads of the
twelve-plexes are fairly level. Watts said looking at the existing slope now shows that the ground
really goes up. He said in order to do the twelve-plexes, the area will have to be graded. Watts
said the four-plex would be adjacent to the trail, where a retaining wall will be constructed.
Bovbjerg asked how high the grade is relative to the street. Watts estimated it was four to five
feet higher than the street. Bovbjerg asked if that was the natural grade. Watts said he would
still have to move some dirt to get it to that level. Bovbjerg asked if the current grade would
then be made higher. Watts said it would not be made higher than the current grade. Kugler
said in the revised plan, the retaining wall has been removed along the west side, as it would
not be needed. He said that whether or not a small retaining wall will be needed to create a level
area for the trail will be dealt with at the time of the construction plans, but at this point, it would
not appear to be needed.
Watts said there would still need to be a level pad for the actual four-plex. Supple said it would
be level with itself, but asked how it would relate to the street. She asked if she were standing
on the street, if she would look up at, down at, or straight at the main entry door of the main floor
of the four-plex.
Larry Schnittjer. 1917 South Gilbert Street, said there are four entry doors on the four-plex. He
said the easterly one will be 18 inches to two feet above curb level, which is the design standard
for most residential structures. Schnittjer stated that the westerly one would be three to four feet
above the curb, because Court Street is going uphill at that point. With regard to the big twelve-
plexes, Schnittjer said the grade would slope up toward the unit in front and slope back to the
lower level in the back. He estimated that the northerly corners will be in the ground three feet or
so, because of the way the ground has to be shaped to make drainage and other factors work.
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Supple asked how this development would compare with Mormon Trek Village. Watts said that
Windsor Ridge would be a little more upscale. He said there is more open space to the north
where the ranch units are. Watts said there are a couple of buildings in this development similar
to what is in Mormon Trek Village, but some brick and stucco elements were added and some
columns were changed. He said the rest are all new designs. Watts said he feels the
streetscape in Windsor Ridge is also a little nicer.
Public ~iscussion closed.
MOTION: Schintler moved to recommend approval of REZ99-0011, an application
submitted by Arlington L.C. to rezone 13.26 acres from Low Density Multi-Family
Residential (RM-12) and Medium Density Single Family Residential (RS-8) to Planned
Development Housing Overlay (OPDH-12)-11.79 acres and (OPDH-8) 1.47 acres and
approval of preliminary OPDH plan for Windsor Ridge, Part 15, a proposed 98-unit
residential development located north of Court Street at its eastern terminus. Gibson
seconded the motion.
Ehrhardt said she was very pleased that the trail issue has been resolved. She said she had a
lot of reservations about having such a large chunk of RM-12 when the initial concept plan was
submitted; however this planned development does contain a lot of variety. Ehrhardt said she
still would like to see more open space here, but if this is what RM-12 is, she would be voting for
it. She appreciated the applicant working with staff and incorporating their suggestions.
Bovbjerg said she has groused about the density in the past, and she would still like to pluck
one of each of these types of buildings out. She appreciated the six-plex being reduced to a
four-plex and thought it seemed a very reasonable and easy thing to do. Bovbjerg said she
would like to see this development be less dense, but appreciated the thoughtfulness to the
streetscape and felt it would be okay.
Schintler said she would vote in favor of this application. She said she also was glad Watts
changed the six-plex to a four-plex to make the trail feasible. Supple said she appreciated Watts
being responsive to concerns. She said although she still had some concerns about the
massiveness, she would be voting yes.
The motion carried on a vote of 7-0.
DEVELOPMENT ITEMS:
SUB99-0008. Discussion of an application submitted by South Pointe Partners for a preliminary
plat of South Pointe Addition, Part Seven, an 8.08-acre, 25-1ot residential subdivision with two
outlots located at the west terminus of Langenberg Avenue and Hemingway Lane. (45-day
limitation period expires November 25)
Kugler said this is a request to replat portions of Parts Two and Three of the South Pointe
Additions, which were platted several years ago, but the streets and lots were never developed.
He said the current request refers to the portions of Parts Two and Three that are located west
of Russell Street and previously contained 37 single-family lots along the extension of
Hemingway Lane and Langenberg Avenue. Kugler said the revised plan includes 25 single-
family lots of essentially the same size and scale as the lots that are being removed. Kugler
said the stormwater management basins that were previously located at the rear of the lots
along the south end of Langenberg Avenue and the lots between Hemingway and Langenberg
are shown on the new plat as being removed and being replaced by one larger basin, which will
be located on a separate lot, Outlot A.
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Kugler said the preliminary plat is in conformance with the City subdivision regulations, and staff
recommends the plat be approved, subject to the submittal and approval of a grading plan prior
to City Council consideration of the plat. He said both Langenberg Avenue and Russell Drive
would be developed as collector streets, as included in the original plat.
Kugler said the stormwater management basin would be a wet bottom basin. He said water
coming off-site will flow into the basin along the west property line, and water that falls within the
subdivision will be directed through a storm sewer system into the basin. Kugler said there will
be an outflow through both an underground pipe and an overland swale through the extension
of Langenberg Avenue, under Langenberg, and then off the site to an existing drainageway.
In terms of the Sensitive Areas Ordinance, Kugler said grading that has occurred in the past has
basically removed any sensitive features that may have been on this property at one time. He
said staff feels the Sensitive Areas Ordinance no longer applies. Kugler added that grading
occurred here prior to the adoption of that ordinance. With regard to neighborhood open space,
Kugler said those obligations were satisfied when the original subdivision was platted. He said
there will be no requirements associated with this plat.
Bovbjerg asked if Outlot A, the wet bottom basin, would contain any playable or walkable area
or would be any more than just a visual open space. Kugler said until the grading plan is
reviewed, the exact contours will not be known, but the basin has not been designed as a play
area. Kugler said a dry bottom basin can often double as a play area, but that would not likely
occur here. Bovbjerg said she appreciated the applicant's reworking this and being sensitive to
drainage concerns.
Public discussion:
Steve Kohli. 3129 Dubuque Street NE, said he was available to answer any questions regarding
this subdivision.
Public discussion closed.
MOTION: Ehrhardt moved to recommend approval of SUB99-0008, a preliminary plat of
South Pointe Addition, Part Seven, an 8.08-acre, 25-1ot residential subdivision with two
outlots located at the west terminus of Langenberg Avenue and Hemingway Lane,
subject to approval of a grading plan prior to Council consideration of the plat. Shannon
seconded the motion.
Supple said she appreciated the developer's diligence. She said the Commission has seen
several plats for this property, and the developer has found a really good one.
The motion carried on a vote of 7-0.
SUB99-0024. Discussion of an application submitted by Jim Anderson and Tom Bender for a
final plat of Westcott Heights Part Two, a 24.99-acre, bur-lot residential subdivision located at
the west end of Westcott Drive NE and Rose Bluff Circle NE. (45-day limitation period expires
December 5, 1999)
Kugler stated that the preliminary plat for this property was approved earlier this year for four
large lots at the end of an existing subdivision. He said the plat is in conformance with the City's
subdivision regulations, and staff recommends approval subject to the approval of legal papers
prior to City Council consideration of the plat.
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Kugler said Rose Bluff Circle currently ends with a temporary cul-de-sac. He said that cul-de-
sac will be removed, the street will be extended, and a permanent cul-de-sac will be constructed
to serve Lots One, Two, and Three. Kugler said Westcott Drive was also platted with a
temporary turnaround. He said with this plat, that temporary turnaround will become permanent
and serve as access to Lot Four.
Public discussion:
There was none.
Public discussion closed.
MOTION: Ehrhardt moved to recommend approval of SUB99-0024, a final plat of Westcott
Heights Part Two, a 24.99-acre, four-lot residential subdivision located at the west end of
Westcott Drive NE and Rose Bluff Circle NE, subject to the approval of legal papers
before City Council consideration of the plat. Shannon seconded the motion. The
motion carried on a vote of 7-0.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ITEM:
Discussion of a public hearing on an amendment to the Comprehensive Plan to adopt and
incorporate the South Central District Plan for property generally located east of Highway 218,
south of Highway 1 and west of the Iowa River.
(Gibson left the meeting at 8:19 because of a conflict of allegiance with regard to this item.)
Rockwell provided the Commission with a letter from George Knorr discussing his views on the
extension of the trails. Rockwell said staff does not feel the trail along Highway 218 would be
incompatible with Knorr's plans for a buffer on his property.
Rockwell said the Commission has just received the EarthTech report concerning the proposed
alignment for the arterial street on the Dane and Willjams' properties. She said the EarthTech
consultant evaluated two more southerly routes. Rockwell said Jeff Davidson's memo notes
that the route N-1.1, which is shown at about the middle of the hill, would cost about $175,000
more to build than the originally proposed N~I alignment.
Rockwell said the more southerly alignment at the bottom of the hill has social and
environmental costs that staff feels would be unacceptable. She said it would displace some
housing and would be in a potential wetland area and a drainage area. Rockwell stated it would
also bring the road close to the housing that is aligned along the west side of Dane Road. She
said staff continues to recommend the original N-1 alignment. Rockwell said because the
Commission has just received the report, staff would recommend that the public hearing be
continued to the December 2 meeting, She added that the future land use scenario map should
be ready for review at the Commission's December 2 meeting.
Ehrhardt asked if the argument against moving the arterial down to the middle of the hill is
financial. Rockwell confirmed this and said it would also run closer to the Williams' home. She
showed the home on the map. Ehrhardt said the Commission was told that the markers erected
by George Dane on his property for the Commission's tour were not accurate. Rockwell said,
according to the EarthTech survey done by Bob Lentz, the markers should have been about
100 feet further to the south, down the hill. Rockwell said it was her understanding that Dane
had marked the north edge of the proposed road, so that the north edge would actually be 100
feet farther to the south. Ehrhardt said it would then be more at a level with Dane Road.
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Rockwell said there would be grading done in either case, but her understanding was that
moving the road south would require more grading and would therefore be more expensive.
Shannon asked if the N-1.1 alternative would cost more, but would miss both houses. Rockwell
confirmed that the N-1.1 alternative would cost more, and said both the N-1 alignment as well
as the N-1.1 alignment would miss the Dane and Williams residences, but the N-1.1 road would
come closer to the Williams' residence.
Bovbjerg said alternative N-1.2 seems unnecessarily destructive of the mobile home park.
Bovbjerg said there is a sweeping line that comes down between Dane Road and the
alternative. She said that would be a connector of Lower Dane Road and Upper Dane Road for
the people who live there. She asked if Upper Dane Road would be closed off. Rockwell said
when the airport runway is extended, the clear zone will interrupt Dane Road, and that portion
will be closed. She said there will be a temporary connecting road from Mormon Trek Boulevard
to Dane Road that will be built at County standards. Rockwell said the arterial street will
eventually be built, and will generally follow the N-1 alignment to provide access between
Highway 1 and Dane Road.
Ehrhardt said the summary of property owner input includes a comment from Tom Williams that
he believed the road serving his property would be positive in the long run. She asked if N-1
would serve his property. Rockwell said N-1 would go across his property.
Public discussion:
George Dane. 4120 Dane Road, thanked Rockwell for keeping him apprised of developments
regarding the proposed artedal road and providing him with a copy of EarthTech's evaluation
when it became available. He said he studied the report and made some sketches and was
pleased with what he saw. Dane said the map for this evaluation is to a larger scale than in the
original EarthTech report, and he found the original alignment for N-1 was further down the hill
from what he discerned from the earlier report.
Dane said the latest evaluation makes two alternative proposals: N-1.1 and N-1.2. He said N-
1.2 is a route south of Williams' lane and buildings and across the north part of the Lake Ridge
housing area. Dane concurred with EarthTech that it would not be a good route. Dane said
route N-1.1 is further down the hill, and this pleases him. He said N-1.1 pretty well addressed
the problems he foresaw with the original N-1. Dane said he repositioned the flags placed
earlier and located them on the west fence where N-1.1 would cross Dane Road. He said that
pleased him further, because N-1.1 is a little over half way down the hill, about 400 feet south of
the fence. Dane said he is not especially thrilled about having any road cross the hill, but
realizes roads have to go somewhere, and others have been inconvenienced for better and
safer roads in Iowa City. He said the alternate road N-1.1 is therefore acceptable to him.
Dane pointed out that if there were a way to move N-1.1 another 100 feet further south down
the hill, it would then avoid some of the steeper slope and be easier and cheaper to build. Dane
said, if prior to construction of the road, Tom and Karen Williams are finished with their building
site, the Commission might to revisit the routing. Dane said it might then be possible to move
even further south to take advantage of the existing County road right-of-way and have a direct
route east to South Riverside Drive.
Dane said he appreciated the Commission listening to his concerns, visiting his farm to see
things firsthand, and having an open mind to his suggestions. He said it is reassuring to find the
system and procedures work. Dane said he now has a better understanding of the tremendous
amount of time Commission members give to the City.
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Bovbjerg asked if the Commission members could revisit the site to see where the markers
have been placed. Dane said he would be happy for the Commission to visit. He said he
placed the markers where he was told the arterial would cross Dane Road and assumed that
was the center line.
Public discussion closed.
MOTION: Bovbjerg moved to continue the public hearing on the South Central District
Plan to the December 2, 1999 meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission. Ehrhardt
seconded the motion. The motion carried on a vote of 6-0.
Supple said the next formal meeting of the Commission would be held in the Civic Center.
CONSIDRATION OF THE NOVEMBER 4. 1999 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MEETING MINUTES:
MOTION: Bovbjerg moved to approve the minutes of the November 4, 1999 meeting, as
amended at the informal meeting. Ehrhardt seconded the motion. The motion carried on
a vote of 6-0.
OTHER:
Ehrhardt said she attended the first North District planning session and felt it was well done and
very organized.
Supple said she received an invitation to a tribute to Karen Kubby and would provide the
information to anyone interested in attending.
Ehrhardt said she could not attend the informal meeting on November 30. Bovbjerg said she
also could not attend that meeting.
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 8:40 p.m.
Dean Shannon, Secretary
Minutes submitted by Anne Schulte
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