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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2006-02-13 Transcription February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page I February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session 6:30 PM Council: Bailey, Champion, Correia, Elliott, O'Donnell, Vanderhoef, Wilburn Staff: Atkins, Dilkes, Franklin, Helling, Karr, Miklo TAPE: 06-22, A & B Plannin!! and Zonin!! Items Franklin: Franklin: Franklin: a) CONSIDER A MOTION SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR FEBRUARY 28 ON AN ORDINANCE REZONING 9.72-ACRES OF LAND LOCATED WEST OF FOSTER ROAD FROM INTERIM DEVELOPMENT-RESIDENTIAL (10- RS) TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT HOUSING-LOW DENSITY SINGLE- FAMILY (OPD-5) First item is setting a public hearing for 2/28 on an ordinance to rezone 9.72 acres ofland. This is the area that used to be hole #2 on the Elks golf course. And it's on the NW side of Foster Road you just make that turn before you go into the Peninsula neighborhood. The proposal is for two 12 unit buildings. b) CONSIDER A MOTION SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR FEBRUARY 28 ON A RESOLUTION TO ANNEX A 0.35-ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED ON CAMP CARDINAL ROAD (ANN06-00001). Also item B, you have setting public hearing for 2/28 on a resolution to annex .35 acres located on Camp Cardinal Road. This is kind of a cleanup. After we did the Cardinal Ridge development it became clear that with the engineering that was done with that that Camp Cardinal Road ~ now, not the boulevard but the road - that a portion of that would be in Coralville. So what we're doing here is just cleaning that up and using the legal description from the engineering that was done for the road in that subdivision to get this clear. Coralville will have severed it by the time you annex it. c) REZONING 1.02 ACRES FROM LOW ~ENSITY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL (RS-5) ZONE TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL (CC-2) ZONE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3405 ROCHESTER AVENUE. (REZ05-00024) Item C is a public hearing and first consideration if you choose on the rezoning 1.02 acres from RS 5 to community commercial CC-2 at 3405 Rochester Avenue As you can see on the site map this is that piece that was previously owned by Zajicek. It is now owned by Three Bulls. The proposal is to, as it notes, rezone it to CC-2 community commercial to continue with the commercial development. Oh. Ok. To continue with the commercial development at. I guess that's all I have. That we have with the Olde Towne Village that This represents only a reasonably accnrate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 2 Elliott: Franklin: Elliott: Franklin: Elliott: Franklin: Franklin: Franklin: Franklin: was already approved. The site plan for that the concept plan for old town village is included with your packets. Ok moving on then to Item D, unless you have questions about that one. Oh I should say there is a conditional zoning agreement with the Three Bulls project in which they have agreed that there will be no direct access to Rochester Avenue and that development of the project will be consistent with the comprehensive plan principles the northeast district plan and will be compatible with the approved concept plan for Olde Towne Village. Where is the entrance? The entrance will be from Westbury Drive. Off of Scott? No. Right here. This will have no access directly to Scott or directly to Rochester. It will come off of the interior road westward. So this will be a main entrance, Bob, into this commercial area. That will include all of this. But that drive is off of Scott. That's what I was saying. Yes. This drive right here is off of Rochester. This one down here is off of Scott. So you can come in this way and up Westbury or you could come in off of Rochester and into this area. Ok? d) CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE REZONING APPROXIMATELY 10.41 ACRES FROM LOW DENSITY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONE (RS-S) TO SENSITIVE AREAS OVERLAY/LOW DENSITY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONE (OSAlRS-S) FOR PROPERTY LOCATED EAST OF HIGHWAY 218 AND SOUTH OF MELROSE AVENUE. WASS AND ADOPT) Item D is the pass and adopt on the rezoning for Galway Hills Part Four. e) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF GALWAY HILLS SUBDIVISION PART FOUR, IOWA CITY, IOWA (SUBOS- 00030). Item E is a preliminary plat for Galway Hills Part Four. I) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE FINAL PLAT OF GALWAY HILLS PART SUBDIVISION PART FOUR, IOWA CITY, IOWA (SUBOS- 00032). F we had a request from the applicant for you to defer that to 2/28 so that they can get their legal papers together. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 3 g) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE FINAL PLAT OF JJR DAVIS FOURTH ADDITION, IOWA CITY, IOWA. (SUB05-00027) (DEFERRED FROM 1/23) Franklin: Likewise Item G the final plat of JJR Davis. The request is from the applicant to defer to 2/28 again, to get all the legal papers signed. And that's it for me. Franklin: Ok. Disregard the screen. (laughter) And the man making motions behind the curtain. District Planninl! Priorities Wilburn: District Planning Priorities Franklin: Ok, actually, that's not it for me. If you recall, we had some discussion about what we were going to do next with District Planning and the council, I think Dee you had raised the question of looking at the Southeast district plan next. This was taken to the Planning and Zoning Commission and there is a memorandum in your packet from Bob Brooks, chair of the Commission and Bob is here tonight if you want to talk about this. They have agreed that it would be prudent to look at the Southeast Planning District given the changes that may occur there whether we plan for it or not but they are still very concerned that the Central Planning District not be forgotten and not be put off too long. And so I guess I'll just, if you'd like to have a conversation with Bob, have Bob come up or. Correia: Karin how long have we been waiting to do the Central Planning District? Franklin: Central Planning District - ah, I can't say. . . do you know the number of years? We put it off because of the zoning code. So it's probably three or four years anyway. Correia: Ok. I've gotten quite a few calls from people who are concerned with putting it off wondering about sort of the detrimental effects of that, given all of the activity that's been going on down there and some other activity. Wilburn: I'm not willing to put it off. Vanderhoef: I have a question, I guess or an idea. We have talked about or mentioned previously that there's probably several sections to that Central Planning District. Franklin: Yes, Vanderhoef: And I was wondering if it would be possible to do concurrently the Southeast Planning District and the near southside the part south of Burlington between Gilbert and the river down to Highway 6 since we have development pressures there not necessarily from our This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Couucil meetiug of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 4 own doing but with the county doing some new things down in there and the University doing some things down there I would like to get that planning part looked at. Franklin: We can do whatever you direct, obviously. I think first of all, the near southside is not in the Central Planning District the Central Planning District starts at the railroad tracks. It does include the county where the work is going on that the county is looking at and goes down to Highway 6 from the railroad tracks to Highway 6 along the river and Gilbert Street there. I think it would be very difficult for us to do the southeast district plan in house and even parts of the Central Planning District concurrently. We are also doing the subdivision regulations concurrently. Those are in process right now. We hope to get them to the Commission by the beginning of the summer. So to do two district plans at the same time would be very challenging Vanderhoef: I understand that. Franklin: Because the way that we do it requires a lot of public involvement. We do it from a grass- roots perspective of bringing people in to accomplish these plans and I would hope that we wouldn't stray from that process because I think it is a valuable one to get people engaged in the process and get them buying into the whole. . . Wilburn: Well, like you said, it's not as if nothing else is going on. The subdivision process. . . I mean, we just finished the code and so the subdivision process is done. Vanderhoef: I guess the thing to think about is where the pressures are. And that as you think about the Central Planning District, specifically what are the issues that would come up with that, specifically what are the issues that would come up with the Southeast Planning District. Bailey: It was my understanding though when we had the CB-2 discussion that that would be addressed this year and that seems that its part of the Central Planning District and that's why I would prefer to see that first. Franklin: Yes. Correia: I don't dispute what Dee is saying or what any of you have said about the Southeast District but I think that I think that it was our intent to get that taken care of as soon as possible. At least that was my understanding. So I would just like to see those flipped. I would like to get a Central District to move up in priority. Elliott: Dee I understand your concerns about and I certainly don't disagree with your concerns but I think with the number of things that the county is looking at and planning for and discussing in that area that ranges from the river the University and the post office I think we need to look at that Central District there. Correia: I agree. This represents only a reasonably accnrate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 5 Franklin: Champion: Franklin: Champion: Correia: Wilburn: Franklin: Atkins Franklin: Wilburn: Franklin: Correia: Franklin: Correia: Franklin: Champion: Franklin: Atkins: Franklin: I think I've heard 4 people say Central Planning District. It will be the more complex. It will take us probably a little bit more time to do that because of the complexity of it. But ok . . . that's our orders. Can you just get me the boundaries again? The CPD is roughly around the downtown. The downtown proper and then the near southside. So it wraps around in kind of a semi-circle and goes from the river, Highway 6, the east boundary I" A venue and then goes up to the north side. Wow. It's huge. Yeah. I'm sorry. Walk me through the boundaries of the Southeast Plan. The southeast is between Highway 6 and Court Street from I" A venue east. It includes the Industrial Park it includes the undeveloped property that the Prybils own. It goes out into our growth area - Taft Avenue. You talk I'll point. Ok. It's better than PowerPoint. Ok, Vanna. You've got to find I" Avenue. That's Scott Blvd. Ok, maybe not. There's Court Street South from I" Avenue down. . . it goes beyond Scott Blvd., though. Maybe Bob can come up. I" A venue all the way out to You've been laid off from the job. A pie shaped piece from I" A venue down Highway 6 . . . Bob, Bob, don't talk. Bob quiet. Shhh. Highway 6 on the South, Court Street on the north and all the way out to our growth area This represents only a reasonably accnrate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 6 which goes out past Taft. Champion: Wow. Correia: Are there ways we can utilize the University if we wanted to do some work on the Southeast Plan? Is there anything students could do that would give a jump uo for when we're ready to go more into the meat of it? Bailey: We don't want to choose, I think. Correia: I don't mean that. I mean that while we're doing the CPO if there's University resources that might be able to get that other one started. . . I don't know if that would work as urban regional planning. Franklin: The way we do it now is that we start out with doing research on what exists in the area and we use interns for that, well, mostly from the planning department at the University. We could request that a Field Problems class look at doing some ofthat background work. Obviously it all takes oversight. But we could look at those possibilities. Vanderhoef: The time frame that I heard the P&Z talk about was that the Southeast District has fewer perhaps problems and would go, ah, more quickly? Franklin: It's not as complex because there isn't as much development in a lot of the area that we would be talking about. Vanderhoef: So I'm inclined to think like the P&Z that we need to whip into that Southeast area before we get requests for annexation and zoning and we don't have an idea about how we're going to do that down there. Franklin: We do have development companies that have purchased property on the east side of Taft A venue near Windsor Ridge and east of Taft between American Legion Road and the railroad tracks. Vanderhoef: And those are critical in my mind that we have to preserve the natural infrastructure that's already there of the railroad track and be sure that we can use it for industrial based kinds of development and the infrastructure of Scott is there, the infrastructure of Highway 6 is there. Franklin: The big challenge in the Southeast is the interface between industrial development along the railroad tracks and any residential development that will likely occur there. The developers that have purchased properties are residential developers and so it's how we maintain some of our resources for economic development along the rail corridor. . . Vanderhoef: That's my fear. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 7 Franklin: . .. and still accept that some purchases have already been made there. Bailey: Can we do that part? I mean, can we focus on that part concurrently? I mean, I know that that's a huge task but I agree with Dee there's some concern but once again I don't want to put off the Central District because I believed that we would get the CB-2 question settled this year. Vanderhoef: It's a toughy and it's a strain on staff. Franklin: It's a matter of whether you do it well or not. Bailey: Right. Well, we want that too. Vanderhoef: We always expect that. Wilburn: I think that I would. - going off the Central. If there's any major issues that come up in the Southeast District if there is some particular development came up or some particular piece of infrastructure came up we certainly will bring that to the Council. Franklin: Oh, sure, yeah. Because we'll be looking at annexations and zonings. Wilburn: What's the time frame for the Central District? Franklin: The Central Planning District will probably take us a good 18 months and that's not knowing exactly what the issues are going to be there, which has been one of the puzzles for me so far, as to identify exactly what the issues are. I mean obviously the county development is one of them, urn the Gilbert Street corridor and you all have discussed that before. We've got a plan for it but it requires property acquisition and some upset. Vanderhoef: Would the use of a moratorium on zoning in that undeveloped area of southeast Iowa City - I know that that's a six month, ifI'm not mistaken. Franklin: The area in the Southeast Planning District that we're talking about in terms of development is all in the county. Vanderhoef: At this point. Franklin: Right. It is governed by the Fringe Agreement. Vanderhoef: Walk me through - the annexation process comes first. Franklin: Yes. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 8 Vanderhoef: And then after that, they usually, when they ask to be annexed, they're asking at the same time for zoning. Franklin: Always. That's required. Vanderhoef: And so then if we zone we don't have any options after that. Franklin: No. And moratoria are not usually put in place without some deficiency in infrastructure or I mean, that's been my experience. The last time we had a moratorium in Iowa City it was because we had sewer problems and we put a moratorium on that area served by a sewer that was problematic, and I would be a little bit nervous about any moratoria on zoning because we just couldn't plan. Dilkes: There's a whole body of case law on the whole moratorium issue that we'd have to look at if you wanted to do that. We're not going to make that decision tonight. Vanderhoef: You know I'm not in favor of slowing it down out there but if! see come across the desk the request for annexation with residential in the area that I'm thinking personally it ought to come in as industrial or at least buffer to industrial I'm going to be hard pressed to make a decision at that time. Franklin: Sure. Understand. And that's where you have the ability to say wait, we need to do something here, we need to plan for something here, we have to have a larger discussion about land use here. O'Donnell: And we have that ability. Franklin: You do have that ability. You have in the past requested that we not bring things to you that require a large policy decision that circulate around a particular development project or particular applicant so that's what we're trying to avoid. Champion: How will we deal with it when it comes up? Franklin: Well, the direction I have right now is that we are to do the CPO first and try to do the Southeast Planning District at the same time. Champion: No. Others No. No you don't. Champion: It's not possible. Franklin: Agree to that. I mean I can't promise you that we can do that. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006, February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 9 Wilburn: Franklin: Bailey: Wilburn: Bailey: Correia: Franklin: Elliott: Franklin: Elliott: Dilkes: Correia: Dilkes: Well there's clearly 4 that want to do the central. I got 4 for the central. Can we have a broad policy discussion without a comprehensive plan about this potential industrial area? I mean I know that it's probably not the way things are done. And I'd be interested in hearing what Bob Brooks had to say about that. I mean, I share Dee's concerns about that, don't get me wrong, but, there are things happening in the Central District that I think feel even more immediate which is kind of frustrating. Well, I really think, again, if we didn't have the subdivision going on, division regulations going on, then I wouldn't be as concerned, but do we have that not done well or paid attention to I would have a problem with that. But I'm just asking about a policy discussion about a very specific area that, a fringe area, I don't know if that's possible. It's not something that the economic development committee is worth thinking about the specific issues related to the southeast side related to economic development industrial. Is that something that could ~ could that piece of just policy around an area related to economic development policy? Well, what happens then if you decided then to put aside the process of grass roots involvement in district planning then because what you're doing is you're creating a policy then, potentially, that is top down. Just to be very frank about it. If you wish to do that, that is your choice. Isn't the major concern as you said how to handle the railroad with commercial and residential? It's not so much how to handle the railroad. It's to see the railroad as a resource, in that we would want to use that resource for industrial development, then how do you, how much industrial development do you have there how far north does it go, what kind of transition do you do before you get into the single family neighborhoods. I don't see what's wrong with us talking about that. Well, you can talk about it, but when it comes to zoning decisions you have to zone pursuant to a comprehensive plan, so you would have to . . . That was fundamentally my question. Your plan has to be in place in some manner, whether you do it top down or you do it in This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 Wilburn: Champion: Correia: All talking: Correia: Bailey: Correia: Franklin: Champion: Franklin: Vanderhoef: Correia: Vanderhoef: Correia: Elliott: Champion: Vanderhoef: City Council Work Session Page 10 the way that we've traditionally done it, but you can't just have a policy discussion and think that is gonna do it. So, are folks wanting to go ahead and have a top down set of discussions with the understanding that when the Central District is done it will be reopened again to the regular process? We are the public. We have zoning there, though, right? No. That's the problem. No. Oh, we don't have zoning in the places that we don't have. Right. Ok. If we annex, and residential development, residential developers who are owning this, you know exactly what. . . So that could be part of decision making around annexation. Yes, it could be, it could be. We really have no control over it until we have it anyway. You have control over whether it is annexed when it's annexed, what it's zoned, when that happens. It's just a matter of whether you want to plan for that before it happens or you want to do it as a consequence of somebody coming before you with a development project. It can be done both ways. However. However. The process takes quite a bit of time. I understand that. And, when the annexation requests come in it usually comes with a specific development project to put on that land. And that's a concern. I understand that from this conversation. And we would deal with that as our time allowed us to deal with it. But we really can't make the decision. . . But can we slow down the county development? This represents only a reasonably accnrate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 11 Correia: Franklin: Bailey: Franklin: Bailey: Franklin: Wilburn: Franklin: Wilburn: Bailey: And we also can't make decisions based on what might happen when we have been putting the Central Planning District on hold for so long and I think people are concerned about that and want to be involved. . I still have a strong 3 . . . Miss Bailey? I want everything. I understand that. And so you're saying you can't do that, so I'd have to go back to my position on getting the Central District done. OK. Well good. We're done. What are we doing? We're doing the Central Planning District. As quickly as we can. That popping sound meant, that was it for the transcriber. Ok. It was my understanding when we did the CB-2 that that wasn't on the table. We would have taken care of that with the zoning. Housin!! Fellowship-Site Location Review Franklin: Wilburn: Elliott: Franklin: OK the Housing Fellowship, you ready for that? This actually is quite simple. Well. I think it's simple. You just jinxed us. Famous last words. We have over the years had changing parameters on projects that come before HCDC that get CDBG and HOME funds. In terms of when approval was needed by city council for location. This particular project by The Housing Fellowship was. . . they received money FY06. In FY06 you did not have a location at the time in which the money was allocated a requirement was put in our process that the location be approved by HCDC and/or the council. HCDC is deferred to the council on these matters. And so, the question for you is whether The Housing Fellowship's purchase ofa property at 1150 Chamberlain Drive is appropriate. It is in Census Tract 14. Census Tract 14, by the way, is one of those tracts which was deemed under-served by the scattered site housing taskforce. And this is where, I think, it becomes simple for you. In that, those parameters that you are likely to use as applications come before you this year it would be consistent with those parameters This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 12 in that it is an under-served tract. Elliott: But. Wilburn: I'm sorry. Before you go, Bob, I have a conflict of interest with this site and I will not be participating in this discussion. Elliott: What school would those people go to? If there were children. Franklin: Lucas. Elliott: I'm more concerned about what schools they go to then the specific individual tracts within a larger entity. Franklin: Ok. This is a single family house which will be owner-occupied. Champion: Oh. OK. Correia: Well, I support this request for location. Franklin: I'm seeing at least 4 nods. Ok. Thank you. Al!enda Items ITEM II. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF lOW A CITY AND THE ARTIST FOR THE SYCAMORE GREENWAY TRAIL AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST THE SAME. Franklin: Can I just show you a picture? Vanderhoef: Your grandbaby? Franklin: No. This is one of your other agenda items. Correia: Oh. Good. Where is the Sycamore Greenway? Franklin: It is South. Bailey: Right across from Grant Wood. Atkins: Never again. (can't hear) Bailey: It starts right across from Grant Wood, doesn't it circle. . . This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 Franklin: Correia: Franklin: Correia: Franklin: Correia: Franklin; Karr: Champion: Franklin: Correia: Franklin: Correia: Champion Vanderhoef: Franklin: Vanderhoef: City Council Work Session Page 13 Yeah. If you go down Sycamore Street there's a path that goes off to your left as you get down into the area that feels like it's in the county. If you take that path it takes you down through the Greenway, which is a series of detention basins that are stepped down to . . . I'm not still in my car. No. Get out of your car. I'm on my bike. A trail. You went down there on your bike and you took a left onto this trail and you go down through this Greenway and it takes you all the way down to the soccer court. Ok. Ok, this is the piece that is on your agenda that is to be considered and it's called Birds in Flight. It's Item II. Right. And these are these bird figures that are on these poles that will be stuck in, probably the swampy area and in a line and the poles move a little bit and the birds move too. And these are just some renditions of it. This is just a model, it's not at the actual height. But it's high and it'll be fun. Ijust wanted you to see that. We didn't have a mock-up. I had a question, when I was looking at this is there a way to have signs, public art signs, not at the location, but, so people know where they are. Ok. Well, we've talked about doing a public art map. And we just need to do it. Yeah. Ok. I feel like we need public art more than a map right now. If it takes public art money. Could we have a map ready and also have discussion at the public art committee about having either walking tours or bus tour available during the Arts Fest and the Jazz Fest? We have talked about that. I'd like to see it. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 14 Council Appointments Wilburn: Ok. Council appointments. We have one applicant for the airport commission. Bailey: Great. Champion: Totally. (can't hear) Wilburn: That's four, ok, so John Staley. Vanderhoef: By the time we switch over what's her name will still be advertising for one. Correia: Right. Vanderhoef: (can't hear) How to get that filled? Correia: I had somebody, but she hasn't applied. Wilburn: Are we done with the airport? O'Donnell: We're done with the airport. Wilburn: Youth Advisory Committee. O'Donnell I'm prepared to take Amy's recommendation. Champion: Well, I'm prepared to, also. I think they're really good. There was a lot of really good applicants. Correia: It was so hard. Champion: When did you do all these interviews? Correia: Over two different days. Wilburn: It was a nice summary that you put in about each one of them, and again, it was a really good pool of applicants. Did you want to say anything? Schreiber: [just figured I'd stand up in case there was anything [needed to do. Wilburn: Want to add anything? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 Schreiber: Correia: Elliott: Wilburn: Elliott: Champion: City Council Work Session Page IS I agree, I was incredibly impressed, especially with the 15-17 year olds - the depth and amount of experience - it was incredible. It's a shame that there weren't enough positions for all the qualified applicants. I could have requested more seats, but I thought there weren't enough (can't hear) I'm disappointed that one of the people who had a part time job ~ we weren't able to interview that person, but that was not our fault. She apparently did not have time to make available. I was also very much impressed with Caitlin Leehey, with whom I had talked, but I think Amy has interviewed these people comprehensively, and I certainly would be happy to go along with your recommendation. Well hopefully the balance of the folks who won't be selected will keep in touch with what the community is up to and if they're looking for some assistance with whatever they decide they want to get into, and maybe next year with some folks a job that they would be applicants. And there's four to. . . And Amy, thank you very much. You did a lot of work. AGENDA ITEMS (continued) ITEM 12. Wilburn: O'Donnell: Correia: O'Donnell: Atkins: Karr: Atkins: O'Donnell: CONSIDER A RESOLUTION REPEALING RESOLUTION NO. 05-216 AND ADOPTING A NEW PERMIT SYSTEM FOR SOLID WASTE CONTAINERS IN THE DOWNTOWN ALLEYS INCLUDING PROVISIONS FOR APPLICA nON, ISSUANCE, DURATION, INSPECTION, SUSPENSION, REVOCATION, REMOVAL, FEES, AND INSURANCE. Ok - Agenda. I have one. Which item? #12 (can't hear) Solid waste containers in a downtown alley (can't hear) I'm sorry, Mike, I didn't catch the front end of what you're saying. Mike, could you move your mike up? Ok, go. Item 12, where we're now going to charge $50 per container downtown This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 Atkins: O'Donnell: Atkins: O'Donnell: Champion: Atkins: Champion: Correia: O'Donnell: Champion: Atkins: Karr: Atkins: Champion: Atkins: Champion: Atkins: O'Donnell: City Council Work Session Page 16 Yes. And have containers be unlocked. Yes. I think being unlocked is certainly a bad idea. You haven't walked down the alleys. You will probably find a bunch of people who would agree with you. I'm going to circulate something. Here is the dilemma and I've talked to Fire and Fire are not hapy about this. However, what we're experiencing is that they're not opening the container, they're piling it up outside. So the fire hazard is just as bad. It's just terrible. Well, yeah. They're going to be overfilled, I believe. They're overfilled now. They're overfilled now. I believe what you'll see there in that picture is it's not full. The container is empty. They just didn't bring the lock to unlock it, so they're stacking it on top. Mike, we very much agree with you. The Fire Department. was not thrilled, in fact, I was almost ready to pull this off the agenda because we were talking about it the other day, but there is a real strong concern that we're not getting anywhere. It's worse, I think. It is. Yeah. The other thing is, I - it amazes me that, sorry, that people are such slobs. It really, it's terrible. And I don't object to the $50.00 fee, because we're cleaning up those alleys all the time because people are too lazy to throw things into a trash compactor. Yes, we are. I don't object to the $50.00 fee, either, I object to not locking them. As somebody who This represents only a reasonably accurate trauscriptiou of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 Atkins: Champion: O'Donnell: Champion: Atkins: Champion: Bailey: Atkins: Elliott: Bailey: Atkins: Bailey: Atkins: O'Donnell: Atkins: Bailey: City Council Wark Session Page 17 has had one of those dumpsters for a downtown business, you can go out in the morning and everything in the dumpster is outside and laying in the alley. Yeah. And, if you have a locked dumpster like [did, downtown, you come out and it's covered with other people's trash because they couldn't get into your compactor. But you have a system for that. You can call on that, and there's a fine on that. [fyou know whose trash it is. That's been the problem. Well, in Iowa it's the University. Can we look at this in three, four months? [promise you we will. That's part of the deal. We're going to try this and if it doesn't work, well, quite frankly, I'm not sure what we're going to do next. This is one of the reasons why [ really would like to have anything that the city can do to strengthen the Downtown Association would be beneficial. Because all of this - this should never have come to pass. [fthey were active and productive and effective with the Downtown Association this wouldn't be a problem, we wouldn't be having to deal with it. In a way Mike, [ don't like it either. Well, have you talked to the DTA, such as it is, about this resolution? [didn't. [suspect other members of staff probably did, but I didn't. We haven't expected much from the DT A on this, [ mean, Well if we don't expect much we're not going to get much. Yeah, but they really have little authority, other than peer pressure. Well, we need to look at this, in 4 to 6 months and see how it goes. Fine, [have no trouble with that, Mike. If this doesn't work, I promise you, we'll be back, because I prefer the locking. And could you or somebody contact the DTA and let them know about this and indicate that we expect them to be showing some leadership in this area. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 18 Atkins: Champion: Correia: Atkins: Correia: Wilburn: ITEM 11. Elliott: Bailey: Elliott: Atkins: Elliott: Atkins: Elliott: Wilburn: ITEM 8. ITEM 9. Yes. I'm fine with that. I think part of the problem is there's a lot of businesses who are putting the garbage unlocked in the DTA. Well, you're probably right. we can also talk to the Alcohol Boards. I mean we can talk to whatever groups we have downtown. Right. What we see is people in the apartments, they head downstairs with their trash. Oh I forgot the key. Am I gonna put the trash down and go back and get the key? No. They need coats. Any other agenda items? CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF IOWA CITY AND THE ARTIST FOR THE SYCAMORE GREENWAY TRAIL AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST THE SAME. Just a request. 1 did kind of informally before say Item 11, where we're talking about the public art, I would like the cost included in this information so it is absolutely readily available. I thought it was there. The cost is in a memo. Oh, you want it in a notation on the agenda, oh. The cost is in a memo that, if you look for it and find it, you know what the cost is. I understand. But whenever there's a cost on something I'd certainly like it to be right up front. Ok. ASSESSING A $300.00 CIVIL PENALTY AGAINST DAN'S SHORT STOP CORP., PURSUANT TO IOWA CODE SECTION 453A.22(2) (2005) ASSESSING A $300.00 CIVIL PENALTY AGAINST KUM & GO LC, PURSUANT TO IOWA CODE SECTION 453A.22(2) (2005) This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 19 ITEM 10. ASSESSING EITHER A 30 DAY RETAIL CIGARETTE PERMIT SUSPENSION OR $1500.00 CIVIL PENALTY AGAINST HARTIG DRUG COMPANY D/B/A HARTIG DRUG STORE, PURSUANT TO IOWA CODE SECTION 453A.22(2) (2005) ITEM 4f(9). CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING PAYMENT OF $300.00 CIVIL PENALTY AND WAIVER OF RIGHT TO HEARING FROM HY- VEE, INC. D/B/A DRUG TOWN, PURSUANT TO lOW A CODE SECTION 453A.22(2) (2005) ITEM 4f(1O). CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING PAYMENT OF $300.00 CIVIL PENALTY AND WAIVER OF RIGHT TO HEARING FROM AMERICAN DRUG STORES, INC., D/B/A OS CO DRUG, PURSUANT TO IOWA CODE SECTION 453A.22(2) (2005) Correia: I have a question, oh. Next person. I have a question about the fines. Atkins: Sorry I didn't hear. . . Correia: The fines for selling cigarettes to underage. Those moneys go into just the general fund? Wilburn: That's a good question. Correia: Ijust know in. . . Karr: No, I believe they go into enforcement, and that is by code, and I would have to check on it. Atkins: They go into enforcement. Elliott: They're diverted to the police budget? Is thai what you're saying? Atkins: No, I'm not saying that. Karr: I have to check on that. Dilkes: I know they come to the city I don't know where they go after that. Atkins: I'm assuming it's deposited into the general fund. Just a routine item. Champion: Maybe we can find out some time. And also what happens to PAULA money. Correia: Well, the reason why I was asking is some, well, tobacco settlements for Iowa, the money is diverted to public health programs and programs to help reduce youth smoking, so I was just wondering if that was something we wanted to consider or we could divert some of This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 20 Atkins: Vanderhoef: Atkins: Correia: Dilkes: Correia: Vanderhoef: Correia: Champion: Correia: Bailey: Wilburn: Council Time Correia: Atkins: Correia: Bailey: the money to the Youth Advisory Commission cause I'm not sure if we have any budget. I guess the question is could you earmark. . . Good politician. . . . the tobacco fine for a specific purpose? The answer would be yes. I don't think you're talking about a lot of money. No, I know. But I mean, some money for the Youth Advisory Commission would be good. We have to check the code to make sure, to see if it has some restrictions. The fine is coming from the businesses that are From an action ofthe business. Right. Oh, I think youths try to buy everything they can that they're not supposed to have. Sure. Absolutely. Other agenda items. Going to do council time? Take a break? Well, Ijust had a couple of things. Ok, we've had a few things in our packet, on the efforts of the Iowa Cultural Alliance, do we have a city staff person that is a member of that, or is going to those things, functions? I know there's a number of people that go, more than just one, and, as far as a membership, I don't know if. . . I do know that a number of people have gone - Karen Franklin has gone, Steve Nasby, there's been a number of folks. Anybody else from your shop that's gone? Well, since we're a cultural corridor, just to make sure we're in the loop of, ifthere's special things that you may be able to access, pots of money, that we'd have somebody. . . They don't have any money. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13,2006 City Council Work Session Page 21 Correia: Well, if they ever did, we'd want to make sure we were there. Atkins: If they ever did we'd go after it. Correia: But we'd need to know about it, so if we were involved. Atkins: I'm on the routine mailing list. I suppose a number of folks receive that information. IP4 of Februarv 2 Info Packet Correia: and we had the memo on the emergency brake issue, the jake brake. Is that? Atkins: It's up to you all. Correia I'm in favor of moving forward, talking about enacting an ordinance and doing it in a way that the memo said - as complaint based, maybe having signs in particular areas, like Scott Boulevard, so that the truckers know? Vanderhoef: Well, I'm with you, because I brought it up the previous time and there weren't four votes at that time and I don' know whether there are now. Champion: That was several years ago. Correia Yeab, but I think there's more development over there, more trucks. Wilburn: Can we discuss this (can't hear) Correia: No, Ok, so maybe it will come up then. Should we put it in a work session? Ok. Bailey: Put it on a work session. Atkins: Jake break in work session? Wilburn: Jake break in work session. Dilkes: Engine break ordinance. Correia: Engine break ordinance. Vanderhoef: Thank you, madam lawyer. Wilburn: And, quickly, we've got a couple requests put in our packet here. One is grand reopening of Bruegger's on S. Riverside. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Couucil meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 22 Karr: Elliott: Wilburn: Vanderhoef: Bailey: Wilburn: Elliott: Wilburn: Correia: No, that isn't in their packet, it's only in your packet. That's one of those (can't hear) Reopening? Ok, not in your packets, but, we had a request for VIP sneak preview party at Bruegger's on Feb. 22"d, at 5:00 and then on Feb. 23, it's a Thursday, at 9 am their having a ribbon- cutting. I will be at the Employee Service Awards on the 23,d and can't make that, so, I don't know, Regenia, if you're available for that or if anyone else could? That's blocked out for several councilors at this point until we know more. I was gonna go to the awards. Is anyone else interested? The ribbon-cutting? That's the same time as the employee awards? Ok, what about the, I'll just put it out there, anyone who wants to go to the February 22'd, in the evening they're having a sneak-preview party, if someone's interested, let me know, I'll give you this information and you can follow up with that. Let them know you're coming. The second item I can do this one, but if there' s someone who's interested in health issues, they're welcome to do it. The med students. . . oh, that one is in your packet. Congressman Leach couldn't go, if there's someone who's interested in health issues, would you want to do this, otherwise I would just go ahead and do it. No takers? Ok. I'll do it. Well, you're the closest thing to Jim Leach sitting at this dais. IP7 of Februarv 9 Iufo Packet Vanderhoef: I have a question that was in our Info. Packet. We have a letter IP7 from Steve Moss to the City Manager Atkins: Yes. Vanderhoef: Looking to come into the city and I wondered if we had any idea what kind of development he's looking at and what infrastructure? Atkins: Just the question I asked him. And we got the Jetter. It's the proper immediately west of Pearson's campus. There is. Pearson's, NCS, Pearson's. I've spoken with his realtor and asked he could give me something that allows me to bring it back to you, here's what they have in mind, and also is in the position of making the call as to whether you proceed . with this or not. Do you have - I needed to have something more substantive (can't hear) and Harry Wolf, who is representing him, Harry said they would prepare something and This represents only a reasonably accnrate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of Febrnary 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 23 bring it back to us. Elliott: Even the question of access is something to be dealt with, is it not? Atkins: That's correct. As soon as we have something I'll have it back on your agenda. Vanderhoef: And, and Harry Atkins: As soon as we have something I'll have it back on your agenda. Wilburn: Good, good. Vanderhoef: And that's in that area where we have some (can't hear) for water and sewer that we Atkins: Correct. Vanderhoef: haven't decided which area to go into. Atkins: You've got Oakdale Boulevard to the north. (can't hear) Because we know we'll bring it back to you. IP6 of Februarv 2 Info Packet Vanderhoef: Something else. Oh. I'd just like to say thank you to Budget Manager for our letter about the use of the city assessor in working through Deb - did a nice job Atkins: Oh, yeah. Let me ask a couple staff people. So if you have some opinions on this, put something out, put something together for me and next thing I'll just share it directly with you and that's what we've done. I was not aware of the extensive nature of the relationship that Deb and the assessor have in gathering data. It was an important, it's important to her. Vanderhoef: It was in the February 2nd packet, the off-week packet. IP9 of Februarv 2 Info Packet Vanderhoef: And just a question I have about the farmer's market, which was IP 9 on the February 2nd packet, where they are going to increase the number of stalls. Atkins: They'd like to. That's correct. Vanderhoef: At the farmer's market. It was pretty astounding to me how many of those folks had more than one stall, therefore the limited number of vendors for the number of stalls that we have presently have, and has there ever been any discussion on if we have people waiting. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 24 Atkins: Duplicates? Vanderhoef: How many duplicate stalls do we have? Atkins: To my knowledge, we have not. There are Vanderhoef: They're just having a double (can't hear) Atkins: Well, there are some folks at the farmer's market who aren't real thrilled about us expanding it. Vanderhoef: I know. Atkins: We try to explain that it's called competition, and that we're trying to get a broader selection at the market. I'll check on that. I wasn't aware of it. Champion: The other thing is though, when you're selling that kind of product, if you have several products to sell, you probably want a pretty big space to sell it in, because it isn't cost effective to go over there and set up and go through it. Bailey: And I also think consumers like the table that's long so they can see things. I think that's one of the reasons. Atkins: Yes they do. We'd like to take a run at it this year and see what happens. I think we'll do ok. Champion: I have to say something. Is it my turn? Wilburn: Sure. Champion: I have to say something. The old bus depot has become a real eyesore. Although I love it. (laughter) Correia: I was going to bring that up too. Atkins: Yea. Champion: But can we do something to make it look better? Bailey: Christo could wrap it. Wilburn: Christo. This represents only a reasonably accnrate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of Febrnary 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 Correia: Atkins: Correia: Atkins: O'Donnell: Atkins: Bailey: Atkins: Wilburn: Atkins: Champion: O'Donnell: Correia: Atkins: Correia: Champion: Correia: Atkins: Correia: Atkins: Bailey: City Council Work Session Page 25 And I was wondering, I was wondering, if we could go back and consider that request from the Moving Crew that came in, it was before the end of. It was thirty to forty thousand dollars to bring it up to code to put somebody in the building. So it wasn't up to code when the bus depot was in there? No, no, that's where we're getting them out. And we've had how many requests to rent it? Oh, a number, oh yeah. To rent it? Yeah. Good location. Good comer, Good location. What has to be done to bring it up to code? Tear it down. Well, what about something with [ share Mike's sentiments, but some public art murals? Oh, no, no - you can't - you'll ruin the fayade. But maybe the windows could be painted. Isn't it just bricks? We could clean it up and make it look better with white paint and plywood. Plywood? But you can't - Yeah. Just cover the outside and clean it up and make it look tidier. Well, like if we've had inquiries about renting it are we just going to wait? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 26 Atkins: Bailey: Wilburn: Bailey: Champion: Wilburn: Bailey: Correia: Atkins: Wilburn: Bailey: Wilburn: Bailey: Wilburn: Correia: I have told everyone that I couldn't comprehend the council spending the kind of money that would have to be spent to bring it up to code in order for us to rent for a short period of time when we're going to tear it down anyway. Well, I mean, it depends upon how long we can rent and how much we can get, and (can't hear) We should put it on the work session. Work session. Here's what I say. Maybe we can ask some other people or I'd be happy to ask around about how we can make it look better without tearing it down. So, would you like to put it on a work session? Yes. Yes. Wark session it is. All right. I have an item. Ok. Sorry. I guess you all lied to me earlier. We just got going, you know. Consent Calendar #42(11) Bailey: There's a letter in our packet about a citizen's summary of the budget and I'd like to see if that would be something we could move forward on. I loved the citizen's summary of the charter - that was very good, and having done that budget teach-in, I think that the citizen's summary currently, it's a great thing, but what people look at are bottom-line numbers and those don't match up to the budget, and then they're all thrown off, so maybe there needs to be something. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 27 Atkins: What's happened, Regenia, is that over the years, initially, when I first arrived, I did that the first year I was here, it was very simple. I mean, 8 or 10 pages. But then people kept saying, can I have this, can I have this? It kept getting bigger and bigger. Bailey: So maybe it's time to look at it again. Atkins: Oh, I'm fine with that. Any ideas on Bailey: I've got lots of ideas. Atkins: how we can trick it Vanderhoef: Can we do, take a look again at that one that West Des Moines puts out that I brought back? Atkins: Oh, yeah. It's glossy and expensive and we Wilburn: No. Atkins: No. Bailey: We don't need glossy and expensive. Vanderhoef: Well, non-glossy. They sell advertising in theirs. Bailey: Now, we did see (can't hear) three months that people can easily read and it doesn't weigh five pounds to carry around. And, I mean, wouldn't you say, that that would be helpful? Elliott: Yes, something like that, I would be delighted, I think the earlier the better, to let people know what. Wilburn: I think Steve has the answer. Atkins: I'm all for tricking it. Elliott: Ross, let the record show, I did not lie. I have nothing to add. Wilburn: Ok. ScheduIin!! Karr: Did you want to talk to me about the schedule for summer, or not? Bailey: Oh, yes, thank you. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006, February 13, 2006 Champion: Bailey: O'Donnell: Wilburn: Atkins: Correia: Champion: Karr: Champion: Karr: Champion: Correia: Bailey: O'Donnell: Wilburn: Bailey: Champion: Vanderhoef: Elliott: Wilburn: City Council Work Session Page 28 I might want to talk about that too. I have some dates. Let me get my calendar. Wait a minute. I'm going to go get mine. Call me whenever you want, Marian. What are our regular meeting dates in June? It's in your packet, I put a calendar in your packet. I didn't see it. It's IPI O. Oh. Can we start in April? A question - the April 3'd work session, can we combine that on the 4th? I'm trying to balance the kids activities. Go to it. I think that's a good idea. Say that again. April 3'" work session, can we once again collapse on the 4th and I want to do this with another meeting in May, so if you want to choose. I think it's fine. I don't have any problem with this. I have a problem because of the work list. That is the only reason why I have problems, because we don't get to some of the work list items when we do a collapsed meeting. Can we start at 4:30 or so? On which day? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 29 Correia: Which day? Elliott: If you want to double up, start the work session at 4:30 and the council meeting at 7. Champion: Are you talking about that Tuesday or Monday? O'Donnell: I don't think we've ever had a problem dealing with all the issues. I don't have any trouble starting earlier, you know 6, 6:30, if we start at 5:30 that seems to be ample time. Wilburn: So, on the 4th is when you're talking about? Bailey: Yes. Moving the 3"' to Correia: Should we start at 5:00? Would that? Bailey: I am completely flexible with. You guys are going to Vanderhoef: The whole point is. It depends on what the work item is, but as we look at our list of work items. Wilburn: Didn't we just add in a couple? Karr: Well, may I say, with all due respect, everything is tentative until the week before anyway, so if you agree to combine it, then, as it gets closer, then you would set your time differently, if there was something that popped up, because everything is tentative until the week the agenda goes out. Champion: Or, if we get way behind, we could always schedule a special work session for catch-up. Bailey: Or, if it turns out that that's not going to work, then, we could go back to it. I'm just trying to Champion: We try to be flexible with each other. Bailey: Thank you. V anderhoef: Yeah. That, that part is good. Bailey: So,5:30? Vanderhoef: Those of you who have regular office hours, what's the earliest Bailey: Well, 5:00. This represents only a reasonably accnrate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 Elliott: Wilburn: Karr: Wilburn: Karr: Bailey: Karr: Bailey: Champion: Wilburn: Champion: Karr: Bailey: Karr: Champion: Karr: Champion: Vanderhoef: Karr: City Council Work Session Page 30 5:00. 5 :00 can work. So, do you want me to put it tentative, 5:00 on the 4th? Yes. Ok. Thank you. And, quite frankly, we can do that all tentatively for everyone if there are more coming up. No, actually, the May one, I'm not going to ask for that one, cause that, that's too much of a switch. The problem I have, I have a problem, and I'm hoping we can be flexible and change one for me. In June I will not be here for the 6"" and in August I will not be here for the IS"" so I'm hoping we can either only have one meeting in August or so I don't miss two meetings in the summer. So June which one? I won't be here for the 6"'. Not to go back, but the fact that we may have to reschedule the 6th, does that effect at all, do you want to go back and reschedule around May? No, actually, I looked at that and I changed my mind, I'm not going to ask for that one. So the question is, June, we can I think you need two meetings in June. What I'm asking, I don't want to miss both, two meetings I was just wondering if you want to go to 13th and 27th? Well, that would be good for me, but. Well, when you look at the 4th of July, we always are trying to That's what I was getting to. So, if we go to the 13th and the 27th, we can move July to the II ", and 25"' and miss those, and potentially drop one in August, if you still want to keep This represents only a reasonably accurate trauscription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13,2006 City Council Work Session Page 31 Correia: Bailey: Karr: Correia: Karr: Elliott: Karr: Champion: Correia: Karr: Elliott: Karr: Bailey: Elliott: Bailey: Champion: Bailey: Karr: Vanderhoef: two in June and July. So we'd still have the work session on the day before. Although, I noticed July doesn't seem as busy as August. August we seem to be gearing up like the rest of the town again, so maybe we should. I don't know. There are not even 5 Tuesdays in August too though. Could you say again - I'm sorry, I was looking at my calendar. I was just - you wanted to maintain two meetings in June, and if so, do you want to switch June to the 13th and 27"'? 13th and 27"'? Fine. June 13 and 27'h Thank you. And then, July And then July, if you switch it to 11 and 25 for instance, you avoid the 4th Then in August. Excuse me. July is 11 and 25? Yes. When are you going to Nova Scotia? Ah, we haven't laid that out. I'll try to work around it, but if! don't, I'lljust have to miss a meeting. I carne with a question. Do we need two meetings in July? I mean, I know, I think that we did it this past summer. We've done it with one meeting. Right. My first year in council I know we did. So, do you just want to leave the IS"' and cancel. Leave the IS"' in, I think. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 32 Champion: Bailey: Karr: Atkins: Elliott: Karr: Bailey: Wilburn: Atkins: Elliott: Karr: Champion: Karr: Bailey: Correia: O'Donnell: Bailey: Karr: Vanderhoef: Karr: Bailey: Yeab, it gives everyone a little vacation. It gives the public a little vacation from us. So then August. So I didn't hear July. July again. IS'h IS'h only. Only. Only. So are we talking then about the 17th and ISth? Ok. Yes, and I'll send out a revised schedule. August you've got I and 15 now and a council member who has a conflict - on the I;t Connie, or the 15th? The IS'h. S .. I;t d h 2"d o you can mamtam your an go to t e 2 . That's the first week of school. Is that a problem for anybody? Let's do it. We're all out of school. Some of us will be back in. So in August then we have the l;t and the 22"d. So there are five Tuesdays. Right, there is five, so we have l;t and 22"d and then, if we could just push our luck for one more and you've got Labor Day. Combine the work session. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Work Session Page 33 Karr: Combine it to the 5th? Elliott: Are we done about September? Karr: Yes. Bailey: I'd say combine it. Wilburn: Yeah. Karr: Combine on the 5th and start at 5:00? Ok, I'm done. Champion: Ifwe don't have time for the work session, Dee, your concern was like tonight, we don't have a heavy agenda. We could continue the work session after the meeting if it's not a heavy agenda. Vanderhoef: That's true. Elliott: Marian. Karr: Yes. Elliott: Can we recap that? April 4 is 5 and 7, June 13 and 27, July lS'h, Aug. 1;t and 22nd Karr: Right. Elliott: and September 5th to combine, 5 and 7. Ok. Karr: And I'll do a memo. Elliott: Good. Thank you. Correia: So April is the 4th and the IS"', with the 4th as the work session combined. Karr: Yes. The 4th is combined and the 17'h and IS"' retained Correia: Regular. And then May is still the 2nd and 16"'. Bailey: They'll do a memo. Elliott: Now, Ross? Wilburn: He's done. This represents only a reasonably accnrate transcription of the Iowa City City Conncil meeting of Febrnary 13, 2006. February 13, 2006 City Council Wark Session Page 34 Bailey: When's the graduation party? Wilburn: Ok. See you at 7:00. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 13, 2006.