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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2002-03-18 Transcription March 18, 2002 Special Work Session Page 1 March 18, 2002 Special Work Session 6:15 PM Council: Lehman, Champion, O'Donnell, Vanderhoef, Wilbum, Pfab, Kanner Staff: Atkins, Helling, Karr, Dilkes, Davidson, O'Malley, Miklo TAPES: 02-27 SIDE TWO, Tapes not available for remainder of meeting Planning & Zoning Jeff Davidson/Thank you Mr. Mayor, we have a number of things at the beginning of your agenda, in fact items A-F, we can just nm through these quickly but these are all setting public hearings so your not going to want to have much discussion tonight. A. CONSIDER A MOTION SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR APRIL 2 ON AMENDMENTS TO THE COMPREHENSiVE PLAN, SOUTH DISTRICT MAP TO SHOW THE GENERAL ALIGNMENT OF A FUTURE EAST-WEST ARTERIAL STREET AND TO AMEND THE TEXT OF THE PLAN TO REFER TO THE ALIGNMENT. Davidson/The first one is the comprehensive plan amendment to move the alignment of the south arterial street. Pfab/What number are you on? Lehman/Planning & Zoning A. Davidson/I'm on number 7A Irvin. And Item 7A as I said is comprehensive plan amendment to move the alignment of south arterial, your setting the public heating on this, any other discussion we need to have tonight Mr. Mayor. Lehman/Save it for the public hearing. Davidson/Okay. B. CONSIDER A MOTION SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR APRIL 2 ON AMENDMENTS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO PROVIDE FOR THE LOCATION OF LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND TO AMEND THE SOUTH DISTRICT PLAN LAND USE MAP TO DEPICT MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT ON THE EAST SIDE OF SOUTH GILBERT STREET EAST AND SOUTH OF NAPOLEON PARK. Davidson/Item B is the comprehensive plan amendments that will provide for large apartment complexes and to show multi-family development on the east and south This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City Council Meeting of March 18, 2002. March 18, 2002 Special Work Session Page 2 of Napoleon Park along South Gilbert Street, this is related to the Student apartment complex that I think your all familiar with. Also just setting public hearing. Kanner/Jeff. Davidson/Yes Steven. Kanner/In the minutes they talked about not having a need for amending the people who are proposing the development, made the claim that perhaps we don't need to amend the comprehensive plan in order to move forward with this. Davidson/That would refute that, I mean we failed that there's not the guidance in the comprehensive plan fight now to allow something of the scale that is being proposed and certainly the seven of your are welcome to decide if you feel that should be appropriately shown in the comprehensive plan but we would see the amendment being necessary Steven. Dilkes/I think also given the law that's required (can't hear). Steverff I'm sorry the state code, you're saying. Dilkes/The law that requires the zoning be (can't hear) comprehensive plan (can't hear). C. CONSIDER A MOTION SETT1NG A PUBLIC HEAR1NG FOR APRIL 2 ON AN ORDINANCE REZONING 17.64 ACRES FROM INTERIM DEVELOPMENT SINGLE FAMILY (ID-RS) AND INTERIM DEVELOPMENT MULTI-FAMILY (ID-RM) TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT HOUSING OVERLAY-12 (OPDH- 12) TO ALLOW 168 DWELLiNGS iN 18 BUILDiNGS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF GILBERT STREET SOUTH OF NAPOLEON LANE. (REZ01- 00024) Davidson/Item C is also setting a public hearing on the student apartment complex along South Gilbert Street. D. CONSIDER A MOTION SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR APRIL 2 ON AN ORDINANCE REZONING 5.45 ACRES FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL (RR- 1) AND iNTERIM DEVELOPMENT SiNGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL (D- RS) TO LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL (RS-5) LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF ROHRET ROAD AND PHOENIX DRIVE. (REZ02-00001) Davidson/Item D is again setting a public hearing on a rezoning from. RR-1 to, well from RR-1 and ID-RS to RS-5, this is a, this would allow a existing one acre lot to be subdivided into additional residential lots which is being proposed as two lots but This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City Council Meeting of March 18, 2002. March 18, 2002 Special Work Session Page 3 it could allow up to as many as five, here again setting a public heating, this is off Rohret Road. E. CONSIDER A MOTION SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR APRIL 2 ON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, CN-1, ZONE TO BROADEN THE USES ALLOWED AND TO REVISE THE DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND DESIGN PROVISIONS. Davidson/Item E is setting a public hearing on amendments to the neighborhood commercial CN-1 zone, it has to do with cap on retail and office uses, but once again your setting public hearing on that. F. CONSIDER A MOTION SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR APRIL 2 ON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING CODE, ARTICLE O, SIGN REGULATIONS, TO PERMIT PORTABLE SIGNS IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS SERVICE, CB-2, CENTRAL BUSINESS SUPPORT, CB-5, AND CENTRAL BUSINESS, CB-10, ZONES. Davidson/Item F is once again setting a public heating on changes to the zoning code pertaining to, well pertaining to permitting with certain conditions portable signs in the downtown area, the CB-10 zone and the associated zones around that. Any questions about any of those hearings that you'll be setting? G. PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE REZONING 18.2 ACRES FROM LOW DENSITY SINGLE-FAMiLY, (RS-5) TO SENSITIVE AREAS OVERLAY LOW DENSITY SINGLE-FAMILY (OSA-5) AND A PRELIMINARY SENSITiVE AREAS DEVELOPMENTAL PLAN FOR HICKORY HEIGHTS, A 20-LOT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION LOCATED WEST OF SCOTT BOULEVARD NEAR ITS INTERSECTION WITH DODGE STREET (REZ01- 00028/SUB01-00031) Davidson/Otherwise Item G is the first item which is more than setting a public heating, is a public heating on the sensitive areas rezoning. That is the location of the subdivision, it is and t his is a very key thing, an existing zoned RS-5 parcel of property, and I'm sure that will receive quite a bit of discussion, you will note that the Larson property directly, I guess I've got this gizmo don't I? Okay the Larson property here is zoned ID-RS so your consideration of any subsequent project on the Larson property will be different than your consideration of this property which has the existing zoning in place. To get into some of these specifics of the. Yes Irvin. Pfab/Go back and expand on what you said. Davidson/Well a key concept, this RS-5 property tight here is the only thing you are considering right now. But there has been and I believe will continue to be likely This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City Council Meeting of March 18, 2002. March 18, 2002 Special Work Session Page 4 at the City Council meeting discussion of the comprehensive plan guidance and has it pertains to this property and the impact on the park. Pfab/Okay. Davidson/And what you have the ability to require a developer to do is different with a parcel of property that has the existing zoning in place such as the one your considering now and the Larson property which also impacts the park which is zoned ID-RS. This will require a rezoning, this one does not other than the sensitive areas rezoning which we will get into here in a second. So that is a distinction that I think you need to be aware of as your considering this matter. To look at this specific plat then this is what it looks like, let me just run through a couple items in the staff report, it si a 20 lot residential subdivision, the property is currently zoned RS-5 as I mentioned, a couple of key things the kind of red orange area here is an area of protected slopes, and the yellow areas here and also some of the cross hatched areas that you see in this area are critical slopes and because of the existing, existence of those environmental features a sensitive areas overlay rezoning is required. The northeast district plan does consent, does contain as I mentioned recommendations on the development of property around Hickory Hill Park and conditions that should be replaced on rezonings. As I mentioned a second ago, this property does not require a rezoning, the developer is proposing it to be developed under the existing zoning of RS-5 so we have some constraints with respect to what we can require the developer to do. Based on the subdivision regulations and the guidelines of the sensitive areas ordinance which I'll get into a little more detail here, staff does believe that the plat is proposed does meet the city's requirements. There is a street, cul de sac right here, which will be called Hickory Heights Lane, it intersects with Scott Boulevard right there, that's generally if you've been out there it follows kind of the top of the ridge. There's quite a bit of variation in the lot sizes here, ranging from under a half acre to the large ones which are about 2 ½ acres. What you see here, these different colors in lines are basically what we worked out with the developer as proposed to you, this area here with the blue line around it is basically the build area, where there would be extensive grading and development of housing sites in this area. The yellow areas here which are the critical slopes may have some disruption to them, the developer is required then to put them back then with plantings and grasses and flowers and those sorts of things that would be typical for what is there currently. The area of protected slopes here includes both the areas of protected slopes and a buffer, and is basically a stay away area, there would be no disruption to the areas of protected slopes. And by the way the distinction there critical slopes are 25 to 39 percent grade and the protected slopes are more than a 40 percent grade. As I mentioned the, there has been an agreement worked out with the developer with respect to the critical slopes, as you can see the majority of the critical slopes are left in a protected state or will be restored to that state. In exchange for some of the areas up on the top part here being disrupted more substantial, staff feels that this consistent with what the sensitive area ordinance sets out to do. And I did This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City Council Meeting of March 18, 2002. March 18, 2002 Special Work Session Page 5 mention there is a buffer which the sensitive areas ordinance also calls for around the area of protected slopes. The neighborhood open space plan does call for a dedication of open space, what is being proposed is a strip between the two large lots here and a triangle down here which will be dedicated. Parks and Recreation Commission has not only expressed an interest in having that happen but asked for this area to be modified down here to get away, basically to bring this trail more in this direction and stay out some of these critical slopes and the developer was agreeable to that, and what you see proposed is basically what Parks and Rec. called for. The Parks and Recreation Commission did want to make clear that because of the pretty much undeveloped state of Hickory Hill Park in this area that they are not proposing, at least for the time being that this be a paved trail but it would be more of a foot path kind of trail which of course there are many in Hickory Hill Park and they just felt that was the appropriate level of development for the time being at least and wanted to make sure everyone was clear on that. The Engineering Division has determined that the regional storm water management system located within Hickory Hill Park has been designed to accommodate urban development of this type and so that no additional storm water basins are required for this subdivision. Yes Irvin. Pfab/That street will be a public street. Davidson/ Yes it will. Vanderhoef/Is that sewer and water easement there to the west or what is that dark area for the critical slope area? Davidson/That is, Dee I may have to check and determine, Larry do you? That is right, is that what that is okay, is a sewer easement. Vanderhoef/So we have an easement over that but not, would that be another access? Davidson/Right, no that's shown with the blue color because it will be obviously substantially grated and when the line is put in. Vanderhoef/So that could be a second path into the park? Davidson/Could be but I'm not aware that that's been discussed. Lehman/Probably. Vanderhoeff Okay. Davidson/Yea I was also going to say it will just exist as an easement between the two lots as opposed to a specific conidor such as the one you see. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City Council Meeting of March 18, 2002. March 18, 2002 Special Work Session Page 6 Vanderhoef/But that goes right down to the creek then doesn't it? Yea. The kids will find it. Davidson/Any other questions about what's proposed, all your have on your agenda tomorrow is the public heating. Lehman/Okay. H. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 2,800 SQUARE FEET FROM LOW DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, RM-12, TO HIGH DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY, RM-44, FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTH END OF WEST BENTON COURT. (REZ01~00027) (SECOND CONSIDERATION) Davidson/Moving on then Item H is second consideration of the Oaknoll, do you have to excuse yourself Mr. Mayor? Lehman/I do. Davidson/Item H is second consideration of the Oaknoll rezoning, any comments or questions, the applicant has requested expedited action? I. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND SECTION 14-6E OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE IN ORDER TO ALLOW GROCERY STORES IN THE INTENSiVE COMMERCIAL ZONE, CI-1, AS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION. (SECOND CONSIDERATION) Davidson/Item I, Tom would you ask the Mayor to come back in please? Vanderhoef/Ross you'll be in charge, the expedited tomorrow if you would. Wilburn/Gotcha. Davidson/Item I is second consideration of grocery stores in the CI-1 zone. Lehman/Expedited as well. Davidson/And they have also requested expedited action. J. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 0.63 ACRES LOCATED AT 707 N. DUBUQUE STREET FROM HIGH DENSITY MULTI- FAMILY, RM-44, TO HIGH DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY SENSITiVE AREAS OVERLAY, OSAYRM-44. (REZ01-00010) (PASS AND ADOPT) This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City Council Meeting of March 18, 2002. March 18, 2002 Special Work Session Page 7 Davidson/Item J is pass and adopt on the sensitive areas overlay for the apartment building on Dubuque Street. K. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE TO VACATE THE NORTHERN 182 FEET OF THE 20-FOOT WIDE ALLEY RIGHT-OF-WAY LOCATED SOUTH OF BURLINGTON STREET AND WEST OF DUBUQUE STREET. (VAC01- 0004) (PASS AND ADOPT) Davidson/Item K we are requesting deferral primarily because we want to have the pass and adopt on this to be concurrent with the conveyance and the conveyance is later in your agenda and we will be asking you to defer the conveyance because of the. Lehman/April 2nd. Davidson/Right, April 2nd so we will be asking for this to be deferred as well as the conveyance which is later in the agenda. L. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF NAPOLEON HEIGHTS, A 146.68 ACRE, 4-LOT SUBDiVISION LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF GILBERT STREET NORTH OF THE SOUTHERN CITY LIMITS. (SUB01-00024). Davidson/Item L is the preliminary plat for Napoleon Heights, yea there, oh excuse me, did I? Vanderhoef/Which one, J or K are we deferring? Lehman/K's tomorrow. Davidson/K's being deferring, however we're also asking you to defer Item L, there is an item, Item A under Planning & Zoning matters is setting the public heating on the comprehensive plan amendment to realign the street which this is contingent upon so we don't feel you should take action on this until you've considered the comprehensive plan amendment so we will be asking for it be deferred until then and the applicant's aware 0fthat. Vanderhoef/Is not L deferred until April 16th? Davidson/Yes. Lehman/16th not the 2nd. Davidson/Well the 2nd is where you'll have the hearing and the 16th is where it will be considered. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City Council Meeting of March 18, 2002. March 18, 2002 Special Work Session Page 8 Lehman/Right. M. CONSiDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE FINAL PLAT OF STONE BRIDGE ESTATES, PARTS 2-4, A 13.98 50-LOT RESiDENTIAL SUBDIVISION LOCATED EAST OF CAMDEN ROAD NORTH OF COURT STREET, (SUB02-00001) Davidson/Item M I was just informed as about 4:27 today that we're going to be asking for a deferral on that due to legal papers not being ready, Stonebridge Estates. Lehman/That's April 2nd as well. Davidson/Yes, for Stonebridge Estates. Kanner/Jeff. Davidson/Yes Steven. Kanner/Just on aside I was curious, when something's denied by Planning & Zoning does it automatically come to City Council for consideration or do you have to have request? Davidson/I believe it's only if the applicant request it to. Lehman/Right. Kanner/And then we have to consider it? Davidson/ Yes. N. CONSiDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE FINAL PLAT OF FIRST AND ROCHESTER, PART 4, A 24.25-ACRE, 40-LOT RESiDENTIAL SUBDIVISION, LOCATED AT THE EAST END OF HICKORY TRAIL. (SUB02-00003) Davidson/The final item, Item N we will also be asking, that's First and Rochester Part IV there, we will also be asking for deferral because of legal papers not being completed. Vanderhoef/And which is it in that one the? Pfab/ Is there a date? Davidson/Till April 2nd. Pardon me Dee. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City Council Meeting of March 18, 2002. March 18, 2002 Special Work Session Page 9 Vanderhoef/The note says 40 lot residential subdivision but everything in our packet says 36, which is it? Davidson/Larry do you happen to know the answer? Oh Bob's here, I'm sorry I didn't see Bob was in the audience. Vanderhoef/Okay so that will come back at 36. Lehman/When it appears on the 2nd it will be 36. Davidson/I believe so Mr. Mayor. Any other questions? Thank you. O'Dormell/Very good. Vanderhoef/Yea I have one more question on that one. Davidson/On First and Rochester. Vanderhoef/Out of curiosity, can they go ahead and build infrastructure this summer even though they don't have a building permit for? Davidson/I believe it was the building permits that are to be held up. Vanderhoef/But they can go ahead with infrastructure. Good. Lehman/Okay your timing is impeccable we are to have a meeting with P & Z and have a presentation at 6:30 and it's 6:29 ½. Davidson/Not bad. Lehman/Perfect. Clear Creek Southgate Proposal Planning & Zoning members present: Bovbjerg; Shannon; Chiat; Anciaux; Koppes; Freerks. Davidson/I'll just introduce this real quickly. Is Southgate here? Lehman/Yes. Davidson/There they are. Over the past several months, would you like to have P & Z move up? This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City Council Meeting of March 18, 2002. March 18, 2002 Special Work Session Page 10 Lehman/Yea let's wait until everybody gets sat down. Davidson/ Okay go ahead Jeff. Ann Bovbjerg/Excuse me Mr. Mayor could I introduce our newest Commissioner Anne Freerks, I think some of you haven't seen her. Lehman/Anne, welcome. Davidson/Over the past several months there has been a committee meeting, the committee has consisted of members of Southgate development company and project team for the Clear Creek master plan, and then staff persons from the City of Coralville, City of Iowa City and JCCOG have been meeting to discuss this project with Southgate. What is proposed is a rather substantial development project of approximately 462 acres, I'1i let the project team show you everything what it looks like and that. But essentially what we're here to do this evening is bring you up to speed on the project, I think your aware that one of the substantial elements of this project is the completion of the extension of Deer Creek Road between Coralville and Iowa City would allow the project to get started. This is kind of a unique project because when you see the development plan the area is currently about half in Iowa City the corporate limits of Iowa City and half in unincorporated Johnson County, according to the land use agreement that is in place between Coralville and Iowa City this would eventually be and with this development project would be almost exactly half and half in Iowa City and Coralville and so it requires the little bit more challenging of a project because it requires the cooperation of both city council's and both cities to have this take oft: With that I'm trying to think, I'll let the project team introduce themselves and if you, our intention is to bring you up to speed on the project since you don't really know much about it right now. There is eventually a memorandum of understanding concerning the construction of the road, the road is a relatively substantial project between $6 and $7 million dollars, a memorandum of understanding between Southgate, Coralville and Iowa City that would need to be executed. We don't really want to get into the subtlety and nuances of that this evening. What we would like you to do is get your questions answered about the project and then direct staff to continue the negotiations on the memorandum of understanding which will eventually come to you for authorizing the Mayor to enter into it then so, with that A1 are you going to make the presentation? A1 Bohling from Shive Hattery A1 Bohling/Yes. Davidson/And A1 whenever you and the project team speak you need to speak into a microphone. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City Council Meeting of March 18, 2002. March 18, 2002 Special Work Session Page ! 1 Bohling/Okay thank you. Just give us a couple minutes here to get set up. My name is A1 Bohling, I'm a landscape architect, and as Jeff said I'm with Shive Hattery, I have with me tonight Bill Cary, Bill is a Senior Transportation Engineer and Tred Schnoor, Tred is a Civil Engineer, the three of us are a part ora community development team in Shive Hattery Cedar Rapids office. And as Jeff said the purpose of tonight's meeting is to give a brief overview of the memorandum of understanding regarding the Clear Creek master plan and Camp Cardinal road. We were requested to, by Southgate Development to submit that memorandum to the two cities and did so on December 21, on 2001. Just to give you a brief orientation to the particular site, as Jeff said there's 462 acres and that's primarily the area you see in color here with the exception of Camp Cardinal Park. This angled highway is US Highway 218, the Avenue of the Saints, and along the southern part of the map is Melrose Avenue, and this is the Melrose Avenue US 218 intemhange. This blue line at the top represents Clear Creek and this area right here is their Clear Creek bridge that goes up and connects to US Highway 6. Those of you who are familiar with this piece of property know that it's a not only strategically located because of access to north south interstate highway but also east west on Interstate 80 and then also Melrose Avenue to downtown and U1HC. When we were first contacted and met with Southgate Mace Braverman looked at me and this was nearly two years ago and he said A1 I'm getting tired of doing 20 lot subdivision after 20 lot subdivision and getting down the road, a half mile wishing I had done something different. What he was talking about was making a plan for this area that looked out into the future and allowed for some kind of sequential development that made sense in the big picture. As Jeff mentioned there's an existing 28E Agreement which basically states that sometime in the future there will be a new city limits line between Iowa City and Coralville and that that line roughly would be the ridge that bisects the property east and west. So after we met with Southgate on a number of occasions and reviewed a number of options for the development of this ground we began a process of involving both cities so that they could have input into the master plan. The master plan that we set up we tried to consider about five things and evaluated them during the process, the first was just to go over and review Coralville and Iowa City's planning documents and ordinances, and then we looked at the topography and the mapping that was available and did some on site investigations. The third thing we did was we took a general look at the available general infrastructure in the area, and then we looked at the natural features on the site, the soil and vegetation and drainage ways. And the final fifth thing that we did was we looked at the public benefit of this project, just because of it's significance and the beauty of the land and the value of the land we felt that it was really important to make something that was affordable for the people that developed it but also important for the long range benefit of the public being able to maintain this in a sustainable fashion. When we looked at the master plan we were primarily looking at two things, basically we were looking at organization of land use and the other thing was the circulation on the site, and that being not only vehicular circulation but pedestrian circulation. Essentially because of the topography and the woods, This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City Council Meeting of March 18, 2002. March 18, 2002 Special Work Session Page 12 sensitive areas on site 30 percent of this site probably isn't even going to be touched so that means that with 60 percent of it being developed and there would be open spaces within that 60 percent 70 percent that's developed but there will be 30 percent of this site probably will not be touched. So this suggests that it would be a conservation type subdivision and in simple terms what we mean there is that we'll try to limit the piping of storm water nm off and also we will also minimize the cuts and fills in the earth work that is done on the project. We discussed the overall density of the residential development and what we concluded was that if we considered the property in it's entirety and looked at an overall average density in the residential property of eight units per acre, what that means is there may be some areas that are more dense than that and some that are less, but the overall density would not exceed eight units per acre. And in any single subdivision would not go beyond 20 units per acre and those are, those comments are in the memorandum and agreed to. The area that you see primarily in orange is the residential area, the darker burgundy area is what we call commercial, now that commercial could be anything from retail or it could be office space, we didn't really get into the fine tuning of different types of commercial or residential use. You can see that the circulation pattern than we tried to establish suggested that there would be a north south roadway or arterial through the property so that it could connect to areas adjacent to the development and we feel that connectivity is really an important issue, we really don't like a lot of dead end property from a safety standpoint and access, it's important to have things connected both from pedestrian and vehicular circulation. The future 965 then on the west side of the property indicated here, when that went in then there would probably be a commercial connector across here and we're looking at having some kind of a town center feature there and what that amounts to is rather than having a lot of commercial entities buying for that main intersection and having a lot of traffic backed up at driveways and so on what we're proposing is that we would bring back 500 feet from that a road that basically would service those so that businesses could front onto this intersection and have good image but maintain clean a flow of circulation at that intersection. We have shown several areas on the conceptual plan for the road where we would use road separation for traffic calming. So we come back to Mr. Braverman's comments, how do, how do we phase this? How do we make this so that it makes sense and it's not a piece meal type of development? Well one of the things we talk about is the completion of Camp Cardinal Road and use that project to start the development. Now the reason we came to that decision was on about meeting number two when we met with city stafffs we originally had Camp Cardinal Road come down and T-ing into Deer Creek Road and then coming down to Melrose. One of the things that came out of the meeting with the cities was the safety issue of related to Deer Creek Road so we came up with an alignment that Camp Cardinal Road would come down use the remainder of Deer Creek Road and then Deer Creek Road would actually T into Camp Cardinal Road, this would provide a safer route on Camp Cardinal Road. The other thing that we have done on Camp Cardinal Road here you can see Camp Cardinal Road in this exhibit overlaying with some aerial This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City Council Meeting of March 18, 2002. March 18, 2002 Special Work Session Page 13 photography. This preliminary conceptual plan we did several things, we reviewed the typical road section to make sure that it was as tight as it could be, I think we're using an 80 foot section right now and one of the reasons that we're trying to keep that fairly tight is to provide something that could go through this area without disturbing a lot of trees and vegetation and the alignment we've shown as done that. The areas you see patched in green are the areas that actually would be required to be disturbed to place the road with this alignment. We have a total I think of six intersections that relate pretty much to the master plan. The, we talked about the speed and the cross section, I think what we're looking at right now is an undivided two lane so there would be a median and that would create a safer situation and both sides we have a five foot sidewalk on the east side and we're showing a 10 foot trail on the west side that would be a part of the road development. So if we're going to start off with this project by building a or completing 1.6 mile road how would this get financed? Well we, what we looked at was basically three components to this road. There's a component down here that's in Iowa City, the component that goes through Clear Creek master plan area and then a connecting component in Coralville. We felt that a benefit to the public by having this roadway even without any development since it would be an arterial connection between Melrose and Highway 6 that if it was a typical Federal Aid Highway project you might expect to pay 20 percent of that and have the remaining 80 percent financed. We divided that up and assigned a value of 15 percent to each of the communities, interestingly enough that equates to about a 30 percent more than a typical 31 foot street would be so that 30 percent also corresponds with the 30 percent that we assigned. And then we did a cost opinion for the roadway that basically looked at grading costs, storm water costs and cost of the walkway and came up with about $6.7 million dollars. The, this chart basically represents the. Pfab/We're not able to see it. Bohling/Okay, kind of small. This chart basically represents the way the project would be funded then. Southgate would finance $3.7 million, Iowa City a little under $2 million and Coralville a little over $1 million. Now the way that we have talked about funding the project would be that it would be a single project, the whole thing would be constructed as one project, that is good way for Mace to not have to do this piece meal. And so the project would be a single project, it would be a joint project between Iowa City and Coralville and let me tell you we've gotten together the two communities eight times during the process and there's been a lot of concurrence on how this would be done. The Southgate portion of that the $3.7 million at the conclusion of the construction of the project would be a special assessment project and they would be assessed at the end and would have 10 years to pay their portion of the project as the area developed. I think that we've attempted to come up with a project here that makes all three players winners, we have the next step for this particular Camp Cardinal Road project would be to initiate a continuation of the planning project so that some of the issues involving This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City Council Meeting of March 18, 2002. March 18, 2002 Special Work Session Page 14 that like some environmental issues, some geotechnical investigation, public awareness and further refinement to the cross section, the alignment and the finalize the cost opinion. And I think as I've said the, I think the, all three people needed, or all three entities need to participate in this without any of these entities the project probably will not go forward. Bill, Tred have I, how many important points have I missed? Lehman/What's your time frame? Or do you have a time frame? Bohling/The memorandum has a time frame that shows construction being complete at the end of 2003, at the start of 2004. Pfab/I have a question that, the little chart you put up is pretty good, details the (can't hear) out of it. Bohling/Okay. Pfab/In other words. Bohling/ Here I'll let you look at the chart some more. Pfab/I know, it will be awful hard to build a road, it will be awful hard to build a road from the chart. It looks to me like the benefits are kind of lopsided, anyway that's my opening statement. Lehman/What do you mean by that? Pfab/It looks like, well it reminds me of something else that's happening here in town about a building being named but that's another thing. It looks to me like the city ends up financing it and then at the end we'll collect as we way down at the end of the road and we'll be the bank and build a road and if as things come along we'll, and it's way ahead of our projections of what we want to do when we want to do it. O'Donnell/We would also be the benefactor of a large tax base because there will be much building out there. Lehman/A1 this is not fair to involve you in this. Pfab/No. O'Donnell/No. Lehman/This is a policy decision that Council will deal with. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City Council Meeting of March 18, 2002. March 18, 2002 Special Work Session Page 15 Bohling/Well these discussions are discussions that we had during the planning meetings. Pfab/I just said that was my opening statement. Kauner/Well that leads to the question, maybe I missed this. What's the infrastructure that the cities would need to provide besides the street? And do you have an estimate of cost on those also? Bohling/We have some general idea and we've been discussing with the City Engineer's in each of the areas, there's some portions of the master plan area that could be served with the existing water and sewer but not all the area so I think both city's are looking into what the future holds in terms of upgrading infrastructure that would serve not only this but other land in this vicinity. Kanner/Do you have a rough? What's the rough estimate for some of the cost for Iowa City? Bohling/I don't have it, a number. Katmer/Because when we look at possible benefits of tax money coming in we want to know what costs are going out and it's good to see that kind of flow chart. We've got $2 million for road, who knows what for water and sewer plus other possible infrastructure. Bohling/Right, that's being looked into. Champion/Can you just remind me, how many dwellings would be on this 8 per acre, how many acres did we have here? Lehman/32 1 think. Bohling/462 acres, there's approximately 100 acres that's indicated in the burgundy commercial. Champion/ Okay. Bovbjerg/The money that your showing on the charts is going to go for exactly what structures on the map there? I mean is it just the concrete on some of those roads or what? Bohling/It's the Camp Cardinal Roadway from the intersection at Melrose to the Clear Creek Bridge, it's the paving of the roadway and the walks on either side of the road, and the grading associated with it and surface restoration. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City Council Meeting of March 18, 2002. March 18, 2002 Special Work Session Page 16 Bovbjerg/So it's that road that's going up then to the top? Bohling/Yes. Bovbjerg/But as you've indicated the, (can't hear) the preparation and the grading and everything for that road but any sewers or any other kinds of things that are being laying in that path are not included is that right? Bohling/That's correct. Lehman/What's the procedure, obviously I suspect your presenting that this to us to get some sort ora thumbs up or out of here or whatever, but at some point in the process I'm sure that the calculations and figures as far as sewer and water, I mean I'm sure that we as a city, I'm sure Comlville's the same way and our Commissions will want to see just what we're looking at total investment over what period of time. When would we could we accept those kinds of calculations providing we tell you to move forward? Bohling/I would think in the real near future, I know we've been getting questions from both City Engineer's regarding the anticipated use and so on, the, I will say that we do know that Camp Cardinal Road, this roadway that where talking about would probably have at a minimum of 12 inch water main, at it's construction and there probably would be a gate valve between the two cities that would be closed and in an event that there would be emergency situations in either one of the cities they could benefit from it. If based on what's happening to other areas adjacent to this property, there may be an upgrading in the size of that 12 inch water main. Twelve inch water main will serve this particular development but perhaps not other adjacent areas that the city may want to serve at the same time. The sanitary sewer probably based on the grades, the only place there probably will be sanitary sewer in the roadway will be from about this point north. The rest of this will be served by sewer trunk line that comes down here, it's an extension of one that exists. Vanderhoef/Is there any place that needs a lift station? Bohting/No, no. Isn't that true? Lehman/Down hill. Vanderhoef/Coralville, well it splits with Coralville on the (can't hear) line. Bohling/And that was one of the reasons that I think that originally the 28E Agreement described this ridge here if you will the separation between the two cities. Pfab/Okay would you get your little chart up again if you'd be kind enough to do that. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City Council Meeting of March 18, 2002. March 18, 2002 Special Work Session Page 17 Bohling/Would you like to take that home? Pfab/No I don't want no part of it. Okay now it looks like go over those numbers again that's on your graph. Bohling/Okay Southgate's portion in red is $3.73 million. Pfab/Okay next one's Iowa City's. Bohling/The next one is Iowa City just under $2 million, $1.94. Pfab/Okay and the. Bohling/And Coralville's $1.1. Pfab/And you want to build it all in one piece and who pays it when? Bohling/Okay we were going to have, one of the other things, I'm going to back up just a minute here and cover that. One of the things that was discussed was the sale of the bonds and the need to place those bonds or have an indication of the sale of the bonds up front prior to the beginning of the project and so Southgate has been working and has secured that so the bonds that would be used at the end of, completion of the project would be sold to finance the, or to complete the interim financing, and then Southgate would be assessed that over the 10 year period. Pfab/But how do? It looks to me like that should start at the same time the cities start. Bohling/Well I think the project like this would use an interim financing, in other words like a home construction loan you don't start paying for everything as they go along, you set up an account where there'd be charges would be drawn against, there's a budget for the project and at the conclusion of it when everything's paid off then the bonds are sold which rests that kind of financing. Pfab/But does the City of Iowa City need that street now? Bohling/Jeff Davidson indicated that there may be in the, with no development happening in this particular master plan there may be from 10,000 to 14,000 vehicles a day in the 10 year period. Davidson/Yea I'll just elaborate on what A1 was saying, I guess ultimately Irvin the answer to that question is you know a political one that you all will decide. The area proposed for development is in the city's growth area. Pfab/Okay. This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City Council Meeting of March 18, 2002. March 18, 2002 Special Work Session Page 18 Davidson/The road system with a little bit of variation is in the arterial street plan which is part of the city's comprehensive plan. The alignment of Camp Cardinal is not exactly what's shown here and probably would want to do an amendment if this is the alignment that we eventually land on. The notion of whether or not the road is needed if you look at the traffic volume certainly the traffic volume certainly on US Highway 6 in Coralville you would have to say another connection between Iowa City and Coralville is warranted. They're not as high on Melrose but they are definitely high on US Highway 6 in Coralville, but that's kind of the technical answer to it, you all have to answer the political question. Pfab/Well now let me ask you this. Now your saying, now we're putting in a lot of highway or not. (END OF 02-27 SIDE TWO) [Due to tape problems, no tapes or transcriptions are available for the remainder of the meeting.] This represents only a reasonable accurate transcription of the Iowa City Council Meeting of March 18, 2002.