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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2010-10-20 TranscriptionOctober 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Council Present: Bailey, Champion, Hayek, Wilburn, Wright Council Absent: Dickens, Mims Staff Present: Helling, Fosse, Karr, Davidson, Newmann, Baldridge Others Present: UISG -Higgins, Swearingen North Liberty -Chipman, Salm, Donahue Mulcahey, Heiar Johnson County -Harney, Rettig, Sullivan, Neuzil, Stutsman Staff present -Johnson, Greazel, School District -Fields Staff present - Murley Tiffin -Phillips Welcome and Introductions: Page 1 Hayek/ Let's go ahead and get started, and uh...hold our joint meeting. This is the joint meeting of October 20, 2010. I want to welcome everyone around the table, as well as, uh, staff and other electeds from the cities and the School District and the County who are...are also here, as well as members of the public. Um, I think, uh...what we should do initially is, um, just go around the table here and do some quick introductions so everyone knows who is at the table. I' 11 start with me and we' 11... we' 11 start... then we' 11 go Tom's way. Uh, I'm Matt Hayek, uh, Mayor of Iowa City. Salm/ Tom Salm, Mayor of North Liberty. Harney/Pat Harney, Johnson County Supervisor. Chipman/ Colleen Chipman, City Council, North Liberty. Wright/ Mike Wright, Iowa City Council. Wilburn/ Ross Wilburn, Iowa City Council. Neuzil/ Terrence Neuzil, Member of the Johnson County Board of Supervisors. Fields/ Patti Fields, the Iowa City Community School District School Board. Stutsman/ Sally Stutsman, Chair of the Johnson County Board of Supervisors. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council Joint Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Sullivan/ Rod Sullivan, Board of Supervisors. Rettig/ Janelle Rettig, Board of Supervisors. Champion/ Connie Champion, Iowa City Council. Higgins/ Elliott Higgins, uh, University of Iowa Student Government. Swearingen/ John Swearingen, also UISG. Phillips/ Royce Phillips, Mayor of Tiffin. Page 2 Donahue/ Terry Donahue, a poor substitute for Gerry Kuhl, who's on funny pills with his foot surgeries (laughter). Hayek/ Is that what they call `em? Okay, uh, we'll try to do this in under an hour. There are a lot of items, but I think we can move along pretty swiftly. Uh, fourth would be an update from the County and City Assessors. Update From the County and City Assessors (Johnson County): Stutsman/ I will speak to this. Uh, at the County we have a finance committee that, uh, meets on a monthly basis to kind of talk about issues dealing with, uh, County and finances, and part of that, uh, committee make-up is, uh, two assessors, the City Assessor and the County Assessor, and at, uh, last, uh, meeting, uh, we had a real good presentation by the Assessors, as far as their predictions, uh, about, um, taxable values in the...in the County. And so we thought it might be good for this group to hear that same kind of information. You know, it's, uh, timely. This is time we're all... starting to work on our budget, and it might be, uh, helpful to kind of hear from them about incomes and...being that all of us depend largely on property taxes for our...our budgets. So with that I'll introduce Bill Greazel, County Assessor, and Denny Baldridge, who is the City Assessor, and I don't (mumbled) decided to go first. (several talking) Karr/ ...need to come to (several talking) Hayek/ Got a spot there in the corner! (unable to hear person away from mic) (several talking) Greazel/ Well, what Denny and I thought...the Supervisors being interested in it, and they thought you would be interested in was...when you start the budgeting process, usually what the Supervisors want to know is, how much did we grow, how much can we tax without raising anybody's taxes, and that would be the growth of what the County grew. So, uh, historically we've had about 3.5 to 4% growth. That means that new value came in. Uh, the last couple years have been kind of slow, and this next year's going to be slow. So, what we did was put together some numbers to show the effect of the rollback. The rollback's going to change this year. The rollback's going to increase, so you can This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council Joint Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 3 actually tax more, but what we're trying to show is, even though you can tax more...how much can you tax without raising anybody's taxes. So that way you can set some sort of a target and say, we think the public has an appetite for 1 %, 2%, 2.5%, but if you don't have these base numbers you really won't know until the very end when it's too late (coughing) raising taxes on the average person. But remember, this only takes into account, uh...this doesn't take into account any TIFs or, uh, any other special exemptions. Um...so I will start off, and if you look at the Johnson County part on the first, on the top. Sullivan/ Just for clarification. Greazel/ Sure! Sullivan/ Tell them...what you mean when you say Johnson County, who you represent and who Denny does. Greazel/ Right. Everything outside of Iowa City, that's the... Swisher, Shueyville, Oxford, Coralville, that's...that's what I assess. Denny does everything inside the city limits. That's why we broke it into two parts because there's actually a difference in what the growth was between inside and outside of town. So if you start at the top, that includes...those calculations include ag land, and I put `em in there just to show you that, uh, there isn't really any growth in ag land. There isn't any more land than there was last year. So that...therefore there isn't any growth, but we do raise and lower ag land values, but then that's pretty much offset by the rollbacks. So the rollback changes, we raise 28%, but the rollback brings it down to where it's neutral. We just happen to be average here. Some counties they actually do gain value from increasing ag. We just don't. Uh, it just happens to work out that we're average. So, the first number, the 4.21, that's how much taxable value there's going to be extra in the County. So without changing the levy rate, you can spend 4.21% more money. Nobody's taxes go up. But...the next figure is 1.92. That's how much actual growth there was. If the rollback wouldn't have changed, you could only tax 1.92% more. Uh, and still no one's taxes would change...if you...your tax would the same as they were last year, as far as the County part of the levy. That doesn't include the School, or the Municipal levies. So, because ag is kind of complicated, the next column I took ag out, and it makes a little bit of difference. The 4.22 is how much taxable value is going to go up, with the rollback calculated in. So, the Supervisors can spend 4.2...2% more money and if that's all they spend, uh, the, uh, levy rate won't change, the millage rate. But, if they don't really want to change anybody's taxes, that's the next line, that's 2.06%. So, a couple percent of that is just the rollback. It's just the numbers. So it depends on how you present it. You can say, you can raise your taxes 4% and say, you know, we didn't change the levy rate, but (coughing) increase taxes. If you go with the 2%, then everybody's taxes stay the same. So, that's all we're trying to represent is the difference between what's available tax wise, and then really how much is available without changing anybody's taxes. Is...any questions on that? Do you kind of understand the two? One includes the rollback, but the rollback increases the taxable value, but it isn't all growth. It's just the rollback's changed. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council Joint Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 4 Champion/ You said the rollback increases the tax...I thought it decreased? Does it take off of the.. . Greazel/ Right. The taxable value. The amount that's taxable, the rollback is going to change in favor of increasing taxes (both talking) Champion/ Oh, I see! Okay. Greazel/ In favor of it... increasing the taxable value. If you want to break it down, you can look at the top line. Our residential increased 3.2%. That's the very top line. Uh, commercial, we really had only growth .2%. In Coralville, Coralville's commercial area, Solon, and a few...add a little bit. They're just not doing anything out there. You look around, most of the big projects we have going on are tax-exempt or if you took the TIFs out of there, there probably wouldn't be even 2%...point 2%, if you took what is going to be TIF'd. So there's really no growth, real growth, new money coming in commercial. It's all coming in in the residential at 3.2. And the ag just, it doesn't grow. Ag dwelling grew about 1.8%. Uh, and...and ag dwelling, uh, that's people that put a million dollar house on 60 acres and probably not really farmers, but we include them in the ag dwelling part. Okay, so any questions? So you can see where the growth is. We've had some residential growth that wasn't just inflation, it was really people building houses. New...new construction. And 3.2% statewide is a pretty good, is a pretty healthy number for the County, but because commercial doesn't get any rollback, and it's about a third of the total value, then that drags that 3.2% down to where it's 1.9 cause it didn't grow at all. Harney/ Bill, on...on these, is the...appeals where the value deductions have been put into place and... and annexations and so forth, is that all figured in to this, or is that something that's out there? Greazel/ No. That's all...that's all done. I mean, we have...the Property Assessment Appeal Board, there's a number of commercial properties that are still hanging out there and that's really where...you're going to take a hit, uh, there's...the commercial people appeal a lot because they're dealing with big numbers and they get no rollbacks so you're talking big dollars, so we have a number of appeals here, but it's still such...it's a relatively small amount of the total value, uh...but we gave up a lot of value in commercial property at the Board of Review last spring because the...the market just wasn't there. So we had to back off on values. One warehouse went down $5 million just in one fell swoop because it's been empty two years. So...so on the commercial side, uh, we just don't see...we've been giving up as much as we've been gaining because vacant land, vacant commercial ground in North Liberty is... it isn't worth what it was two years ago. Any other questions? Other than that I'll turn it over to Denny. Champion/ Very helpful! Thanks! Baldridge/ Well, I really don't have a lot to add. Uh, I would, uh, mention that the rollbacks are preliminary figures, but expected to be very close. Uh, they should be out later, well, This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council Joint Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 5 sometime in November, I believe. Uh, the...the top portion, as Bill said, was Johnson County outside of Iowa City. Bottom part is, uh, just Iowa City. It'd be addressed, I guess, only to the City Council. Um...they're showing, he's showing two, uh, separate calculations for...for each, uh, jurisdiction. Uh, I think that was mainly to...to show the difference that agricultural value makes, and you can see that Iowa City has very little agricultural values, so there's really not much difference between those two portions of the...of the Iowa City section. Um, I think our...our, uh...residential value did not increase quite as much as...as the County's, uh, County I think does some revaluation even in the non-reassessment year. So, that accounts for some of that, I think. Um, other than that I guess we would just take any questions that you might have. Hayek/ Any questions for either? (several talking) No, this is very helpful! Very helpful. Thanks, guys! Appreciate this information! (several talking) And I, uh, for some reason skipped us over the third point, which was (several talking) School District, yeah, and (several talking) yeah (laughter). Wanted to keep you guys on your toes! Uh, why don't we circle back to that, and...and uh, get the update from the School District on facility planning and the Roosevelt Task Force. Update From School Districts (North Liberty & Iowa City): Fields/ Before I...I guess before I turn it over to our Superintendent, I...I guess I'm curious as to how this item got on the agenda... cause it didn't come from us, um... so.. . Hayek/ Uh... Champion/ It came from Iowa City. (unable to hear person away from mic) Fields/ Okay. So maybe for the future though we could make sure that we're well prepared, to let us know if you're going to put an item that regards to us, before we (unable to hear) Hayek/ Sure. Fields/ ...we can bring the information that you want (mumbled) going to let Steve go ahead and address (mumbled) haven't met Steve, he's our new Superintendent, Steve Murley. (several talking) Murley/ Just real quickly a couple things for you. I'm going to start out in reverse order and talk about the Roosevelt, uh, study committee, study group. We're working on a title for it! Uh, we have a, um, collection of people that have gathered, uh, to talk about what happens with Roosevelt Elementary School when it no longer houses students. Um, they're working under some parameters that are laid out in the minutes, which were part of the, uh, the handouts there, uh, from the meeting that took place on October 18th, um, just real quickly if you look to the bottom of that sheet under item #5, talks about it being revenue neutral. Uh, it talks about the connection with the neighborhood, uh, focusing to some degree on an educational purpose, if appropriate, and then, uh, on a larger scale having a positive impact on the community. And as we transition those students out of This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council Joint Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 6 Roosevelt and to the new elementary which will be in place at the Crossings, uh; the question of what to do with that property in terms of whether it has merit for the School District to hold onto it or whether there are other greater community interests, uh, that may serve a better purpose for that building is essentially the reason that that groin is together. Uh, and they drew some pretty big parameters when they met on the 18t ,and talked about what possible, uh, outcomes could, uh, result from repurposing that building, and their goal is to go through those discussions, uh, to take into consideration the current state of the building, the cost for remodeling it, uh, and then considerations for what else it might house, and how much it might cost to deal with remodeling in order to accommodate those, uh, the new needs in that building. Uh, there were representatives from the County, from the City, uh, from the neighborhood, from several other entities present at that meeting, uh, and their goal then is to bring back to me, uh, a variety of options for what to consider and then I will take that and synthesize that and bring that forward to the School Board for their consideration. So I'll stop and ask if anybody has any questions about that process, uh, or the intent of that group as they meet. Hayek/ Any questions on that point? Murley/ That leads right into the next one, which is why I started with that one, uh, we are working on, uh, from a new building standpoint, we're working on the elementary school at the Crossings development. Uh, and uh, we're working with both the City and, uh, of Iowa City and Coralville because we sit right on the border there. Uh, the Mayor's been very helpful in making sure I get to the right people to get some questions answered, so thank you very much for that. Uh, we're coming along well with that. Uh, the planning process is in place, uh, and we are approaching step four, uh, in our School Board planning process, and we'll be back in front of the Board, uh, at the November meeting to talk about that stage in development. Uh, we are working within a budget that was established by the Board, uh, and working with teachers, uh, and other faculty members to ensure that the learning space that we create meets the needs of those kids who are fortunate here in the District that having built several elementary schools in the last few years. We've got quite a bit of experience in this planning process, and it's, uh, going very quickly and very well. So, we're looking forward to that. I know that the developer out there is looking to put, uh, some signage out there to help people identify where the school will be and who it will serve and, uh, that, uh, I believe will be up shortly. Questions I can about that? Fields/ I would just add for the new elementary school coming online, as we get farther along in the process (mumbled) school building is something that we take as (mumbled) and so we're putting together a committee and we have a Board process for that, so... Murley/ Again, the process of forming that naming committee at the next Communication's Committee meeting, which takes place October 26th. Since we didn't put this on there might be a facility question. I'd be more than happy to try to answer any other questions about facilities, if there were things I didn't touch on. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council Joint Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 7 Hayek/ Any other questions on...on that item? Well, speaking for the City, I appreciate the, uh, invitation on the Roosevelt Task Force and, uh, obviously you've had a good initial meeting, and we're glad to have a seat at that table. So...okay. That's it for that item. Why don't we move on to, uh, road construction projects. Who wants to start? Road Construction Proiects Current and Future (North Liberty): Salm/ Well, why don't we start, North Liberty, since we put it on there. As Terry said, Jerry's at home, had foot surgery. He's enjoying his pain medications, and he...he had this on the, uh, agenda but...basically, I'm sure you guys all know, uh, 965, we've been under construction on the south end of town. That phase one should be completed mid- November is what we're shooting for, so that'll help considerably getting traffic flowing through there. Our, uh, phasing of this is going to be every other year we're going to have construction. So, next year we'll be doing the design work on the Scales Bend intersection, which is on the north end of town, and then again the following year we'll start construction on that. Um, some of our other major streets, Penn Street from 965 to Jones Boulevard, we're going to be adding turning lanes this next year on that, and that'll also include signalization at Jones and Penn. We're also going to do an urban section of paving from Penn Street south to, uh, 270' on Jones Boulevard. That'll include the intersection as well. So we're going to have quite a bit of construction activity through that area, and that'll kind of be a pain in everybody's rear for six months or so, but it'll really work out pretty well. We have a piece of roadway, uh, Golfview Drive. We're doing the intersection as part of phase one right now, but there's a connector that's going to go over a trail, the railroad tracks, and the culvert that'll connect the two ends of this. We'll have another east-west connector on Golfview Drive, so for next year that'll...that's essentially the bulk of our projects, and then, uh...we're just going to keep plugging away every other year on 965 until we get that finished. Stutsman/ What you've done so far has just been tremendous improvement. Salm/ Well, we're trying to get caught up. We need to get the traffic flowing smoothly. You know the goal is to get it through town, but also give people the opportunity to stop in town. I think we're going to achieve that. Hayek/ Thanks, Tom. Rick, you want to jump in...for Iowa City? Fosse/ Sure! Uh, our projects going on this summer, our major transportation projects are 420tH Street. We're converting from a rural to an urban section out there by our new industrial park. Uh, similar project on south Sycamore Street from Burns to the city limits to the south. Both of those we hope to complete yet this year if we have good weather for us. Uh, we also have a pedestrian bridge going over I-80 at Dodge Street that's under construction right now and that'll finish up next year. Uh, looking into 2011, we'll begin the reconstruction of Lower Muscatine Road from Kirkwood Avenue to First Avenue, and we also have three, uh, significant pedestrian projects going on that year, as well, and that is putting the pedestrian component on the Butler bridge, uh, that is part of the Iowa River Corridor Trail system, and then also extending the Iowa River Corridor Trail This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council Jomt Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 8 system south down to the Terry Trueblood Recreation area. So we're working on both ends of that coming out of Iowa City, and then we'll also extend the Court Hill trail system out through Scott Park, uh, in 2011. Looking out to 2012, we'll begin construction of the First Avenue railroad grade separation project. That'll be a big one that a lot of people are looking forward to, including myself! Um, we have two intersection improvements on Burlington Street. One at Clinton Street intersection and also down at Madison Street. Both of those are in partnership with the University of Iowa and uh, we'll also reconstruct the Rochester Avenue bridge over Ralston Creek, the north branch of Ralston Creek that summer, as well. Uh, looking out to 2013 is when we hope to begin construction of the Dubuque Street-Park Road bridge project. Um, and also a... another second pedestrian bridge over interstate 80 at Dubuque Street. Again, part of the Iowa River Corridor Trail system, and then in, uh, also looking at working, partnering with the DOT, uh, for rehabilitation of Highway 6 from Riverside east to Lakeside Drive. I'd be happy to entertain any questions on those projects. Stutsman/ I...couple of questions on...that weren't on that list. Are you going to signal McCollister Boulevard, and (mumbled) Fosse/ Yes! That's in the program. Stutsman/ Uh, and any plans to look at Gilbert Street and Highway 6? Fosse/ Not in the current 5-year capital program. It's out on the unfunded at this point. Champion/ It's a very hot subject (mumbled) Stutsman/ I know, I know, but it's a very needed subject. I (mumbled) (laughter) Champion/ It's not my problem (laughter and both talking) Wilburn/ There have been twice anon-majority of Council Members, um, not interested in doing that project so ... Stutsman/ Want me to talk about the County? Hayek/ Love to, yeah! Stutsman/ Anybody have any... Hayek/ Any other questions for Mr. Fosse? Fosse/ Thank you. Hayek/ Thanks, Rick. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council Joint Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 9 Stutsman/ I'll just start, and if other Board Members want to, uh, chime in that'd be great. Um, we finished the 965, 120t" Street project. Uh, the four corners there at Swisher, and if you haven't been up there, it's a vast, vast improvement to that intersection (mumbled) please to have that done, uh, north (mumbled) Street trail. It is completed. The, uh, the section from over...west Overlook to 275t", and then we'll be working on the section from 275t" into North Liberty next year. Um, we, um, have been any...major roads that we redo we do put wide shoulders on them, so I guess I could just make a request from cities, you know, if you're connecting to, uh, County roads, um, you know, it's...we noticed that in, um, other adjoining counties, you know, we have the wide shoulders which are great for bicycling and for walking and things, and then they stop when you hit the county line and so we realize that we probably should have discussions with surrounding counties and surround entities so that we can kind of, uh, have some planning as far as the wide shoulders and things. Um, I think those are the major roads, I think that would impact, you know, we're doing a lot of overlays or...out in the unincorporated area, and improvements to roads but those are the main things (mumbled) still, uh, waiting for permits on Oakdale Boulevard, uh, hopefully that we'll get that, um, in process hopefully by next construction season. Anybody... Hayek/ Any questions for Sally? Salm/ I'd just like to comment that Swisher four-way really is nice. Igo through there many times a day and that's...is a vast improvement. Stutsman/ Yeah, it sure is! Hayek/ Anyone else want to chime in on this issue? Champion/ Well, Sally, have you done any more studies...I know, um, JCCOG was looking at studying Dubuque Street and how many more cars it could actually carry and still be safe. Has anything ever come of that? (mumbled) Okay. Sullivan/ I think that the JCCOG had to wait until Coralville and North Liberty had determined where the boundaries were going to be. Does that sound familiar to anybody from...no Coralville people here, just North Liberty. Salm/ I think that's (both talking) correct, right. We do...we do some studies in town and we kind of know where things are going but...that little piece is sort of in limbo still. Rettig/ I just heard some news I thought I would share. It's kind of bad news, but it's okay, I think. But, um, Coralville, Tiffin, the County, and the Johnson County Conservation Board applied with JCCOG's help for aTIGER-2 grant to complete the trail from Coralville, basically to Oxford and beyond, using wide-paved shoulders on the highway. We found out today we weren't approved for that. We thought it was a long shot. It's actually too small of project for aTIGER-2 grant. I think the only trails' project that was funded countrywide is like $10.5 million or something. But, in the middle of that, um, Johnson County Conservation Board got a REAP grant last week for half a million to do This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council ~omt Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 10 a section they have. So coming out of Tiffin, using the paved shoulder, which isn't great, we'll have a trail to Half Moon, and then chipseal, and then paved shoulders, and then Tiffin is marching that way, and Coralville's applied for some more grants, so we're all working on that together and I...I think that experience was good and then on the same note, uh, REAP, uh, the Terry Trueblood Recreation area got a REAP grant of $200,000 last week so congratulations. Phillips/ Half Moon (mumbled) on the shoulder? Rettig/ No, we'll go...we'll go to Half Moon Avenue, and chipseal it, so between Ireland and...no, that will be a real trail. Then you will be on chipseal up to the highway, where you'll be on a paved shoulder once they redo Highway 6 next two years. Phillips/ My understanding (mumbled) the creek, Clear Creek, and the railroad. Rettig/ Right. That will be a real trail (mumbled) Hayek/ Okay, anyone else, uh, want to give an update on this? Hearing none, why don't we move along. Next are, uh, various IJOBS projects in the area. Johnson County, you guys put this on first (both talking) Update on Area IJOBS Proiects (Johnson Countyl: Rettig/ Okay, I'll take that one. We put it on. I think we just thought it would be a good idea with all the IJOBS discussion going around to hear what everyone's using the money for and how it's coming along, and we have one project and that is the, uh, removal and redevelopment of the Armory, uh, location. The demolition is done. The site grading is done. Uh, the concrete is nearly done, and then they will do our pervious concrete next week, and uh, it will have a bioswell. So the parking spots will have pervious concrete with a bioswell. We expect to be able to slow down and, uh, reduce the sedimentation off of that entire space. The rest of it will be green space, uh, with a 16-bicycle parking, little shelter and a sidewalk going around, and a future location for, uh, geothermaling, uh, the Administration Building. The IJOBS funding was $975,000 and change, and the total project is $1.2 million, uh, we expect to have all the construction done in December, and some of the green work will need to be finished in the spring. And that's where we are! Hayek/ Still can't get used to driving down there and not seeing the building. It's, uh... Rettig/ The rafters are, uh, amazingly out at Conservation Board for our future use, and however many years they've been in there, I think they're sturdier than anything we could possibly build today, and so to see the Amish working on that was very fascinating. They had straw hats on the first day, and I think our facilities director fought very hard to get them out of their straw hats and into hard hats and by the end of the first week I think he succeeded, but it might have broke some religious, um...uh, concern about hard hats. But to see them working on the project was cool. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council Jomt Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 11 Hayek/ You did a nice job of salvaging those materials and the embedded, uh, imprints and signage and things like that. It's very nice...very nice job! Anyone want to go next? Dale Helling our Interim City Manager's here. He can give an Iowa City IJOBS update. Dale? Helling/ Yeah, we have several projects that have IJOBS money in them, uh, one of them you may be familiar with is the UniverCity project, which is basically to acquire properties...in various areas of town that are in close to the University primarily, um, rehab those properties and then sell them at a cost that, uh, folks who work at the University, or other areas downtown, can afford, um, so they're not the most expensive, uh, properties in that...in those areas, um, and the idea in the areas close to campus is to try to strike a better balance between owner-occupied, um, properties versus rental properties, which the multi-family rental properties which a lot have been turned into. So this is in a way trying to turn the tide back a little bit and maintain that balance. Um, we actually have 200, or $2.25 million total, uh, part of that was out of, uh, the IJOBS one and then there was some other funds that I think came out of the IJOBS two, uh, allocation, um, so...and then we're in partnership with the University on that, and they have funds invested in it as well, along with the community. Um, Fire Station #4, I think probably everybody knows where that is by now. Um, that's about a $4.5 million project and that's 50% IJOBS funding. So we'll see exactly what that amount is when we...when we, uh, finish construction of the fire station. Something similar for the moving the, uh, waste water treatment plant, the old waste water treatment plant, um, we got, out of IJOBS one we got $10 million allocated, but we were on the cusp, and so there was only about $3.5 million left so we stand to get up to $6.5 million additional from funds that come back in to the...to the IJOBS one project, or program, either because, uh, other projects may not go through, or there may be enough savings given the, uh, atmosphere of low, uh, low bids coming in on a lot of those projects. So we're hoping to get some or all of that additional $6.5 million, and then we've also had an additional $2 million allocated from IJOBS. So that's...a total of up to $12 million we'll get for the wastewater treatment plant project. Um, in addition to that, there's some money, IJOBS money in Jumpstart three allocations that we got, and uh, that's mainly to assist about thirty-five, uh, residents with, or households, with, uh, disaster repair assistance, and interim mortgage assistance, that's from the flood. The, uh, and this...also is not a City project, but about $2.6 million of IJOBS money came to Shelter House. Um...and then from the, uh, Great Places, which is IJOBS funding, we...we got about $70,000 there and that's to extend the Literary Walk, um, sort of...what's the word I'm looking for? I guess that whole idea of the Literary Walk...to the North Linn Street, uh, in the streetscaping project there. So there'll be more probably plagues in the sidewalk like you see downtown, uh, quotes from authors and so forth and writers that have lived here or have connection to Iowa City. And, uh... (mumbled) Hayek/ Any questions on those projects? Okay. Anyone else...on the subject? Pass? Okay. Thanks, Dale. City Manager Hiring This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City Crty Councu Jomt Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 12 Hayek/LJh, next item is Iowa City's City Manager, this is news...not news I'm sure to...to most if not all of you, but uh, we just completed a really successful search process, I think, and uh, we'll be bringing to town Tom Markus who, um, is a native of southern Minnesota, uh, who has a long tenure in city management, both in Minnesota and uh, suburban Chicago, and also for the last couple of decades in Birmingham, Michigan. Uh, he, uh, we're very excited to have him, uh, come to Iowa City, and he will be starting about the first of December. Uh, and I know he's eager to, uh, reach out to all of the area entities, the School District, the County, and the cities, and so we will hold a function when he shows up, sort of similar to what you folks did at the School District, and make sure he does the rounds. So, and if you played a role or gave us some input during the process, I...I thank you for ...for that, that was very helpful. So...just wanted to mention that. Um, next item is issues and priorities for the 2011 legislative session, and I think the County raised that. Issues/Priorities for the 2011 Legislative Session (Johnson County): Stutsman/ Uh-huh. Uh, we have been working on, uh, what we call legislative priorities to, uh, to bring to the attention of the legislature. We're going to plan to meet with our legislators. We've... probably the last of November, first of December, depending on their schedules. Uh, so what we were wondering if, uh, and I'll briefly go through some of the issues that we plan to address, and see if there would be any interest from any of the other entities in, um, working with us on some of these issues. Sometimes it has more clout if there's more people involved in things. Um, let's see, one of the things that we wanted to talk...address was the unfunded mandates, you know, making sure that the legislature doesn't give us, uh, things, and then, um, doesn't, um, give us funding to...to take care of them. Uh, you know, across the board cuts and future revenue cuts, um, property tax credits that we deal with. We also want to talk about tax increment finance with the legislature, um, none of us on the Board are interested in doing away with TIF, but we just think that it's time for some, uh, some modifications in...in the TIF, TIF, um, legislation. Uh, also, um...the other part we had was, uh, the state permitting fees, uh, felt that it's time for a lot of those permitting fees to be looked at and uh, you know, what'd you say, Janelle, one fee hasn't been raised since 1990... Rettig/ 91. Stutsman/ 91, and so we're just saying it's time for that to be done. Uh, food licensing fees, lot of that stuff hasn't been raised for a number of years, and our costs go up, and yet we don't have the...the revenues to carry, uh, cover that. And then the other issue (both talking) oh, I'm sorry. Rettig/ I think the one that might concern the cities, this actually came up from Kelly Hayworth, um, when we did the JCCOG legislative forum last year, and that's that everyone's having trouble getting their envirorunental permitting process through, and a lot of those permitting don't require fees, so Kelly and...we've been told, our people have been told, that we can expect some of our projects to have athree-year delay in making it through the environmental permitting. We've also had indication that construction costs this year This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City Crty c;ouncii ~omt Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 13 versus next year might be up as high as 10%. So Kelly had raised that because environmental services of DNR are so inadequately funded that they....the staff is...that people might be willing to pay fees for some of these, to have it adequately staffed because we would save enormous amounts of money in construction costs, you know, this year versus three years from now. And so, we're actually working on the language on that and we can share it with whoever wants, but...for that to be consideration, and Kelly had raised it last year with the legislators. Stutsman/ And then the, uh, our last issue, uh, major issue is mobile home parks, and uh, asking for some, uh, revision of Iowa Code, Section 555. I think we're all pretty familiar with the, uh, issues, um, that the County dealt with, with the Regency Park and so we just feel that there needs to be some...some changes in...in that code. So we will bring this, uh, these issues forth to the legislature and like we said, if any of you would like, uh, to have input or help in talking about these things, we'll probably bring them up at the ECICOG legislative, um, session as well as, uh (mumbled) Phillips/ I would be interested in at least three of those issues. Stutsman/ Right. (mumbled) Do you want to let me know (mumbled) (both talking) Pardon me? Phillips/ Which issues or... Stutsman/ Yeah! Phillips/ The TIF, the mobile home, and the environmental fees. Stutsman/ Okay. We'll be in touch. Wilburn/ Sally, it would be helpful to know if, uh, as you all talk if you could take a look at how Iowa City has utilized TIF. The restrictions, the requirements. If you are in support of those type of (both talking) or against, those would be helpful to know. That way it wouldn't turn into a for or against (both talking) that's not a position...we've taken a position that we support them, uh, correct me if I'm wrong from Iowa City Council, because of the way that we put requirements on them and, um...I think that we had the sense or approach that if there was movement towards, uh, the stronger restrictions at the State level, then at that point we would push our package or our type of, you know, the duration, etc. Does that sound familiar... yeah. Hayek/ Yeah. Wilburn/ So it would be helpful to know, are you, you know, uh, if you, and if or counties collectively decide to make that effort at the state level (coughing) see if they would be interested in change...altering their argument towards a specific type of restriction on TIF, as opposed to a blanket, um... This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council Joint Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 14 Sullivan/ Ross, I had the opportunity the other day to share a draft, and it was only a draft, of what we had with, uh, Jeff Davidson and uh...what's that? Wendy Ford. Was trying to remember what I was doing here. (laughter) Uh, yeah, with the two of them, so they...they have that and will probably share that with you. Again, it's a draft. We haven't voted to approve it, but it gives you the idea. Champion/ Yeah, I'd be (several talking) Wright/ Good to see. Hayek/ Along the same vein, I...probably would help if...if you would like the Councils to take these issues up and try to give you some feedback before the legislative get-together to...to receive something with a little more detail on those issues. What the County tentatively is (both talking) Stutsman/ And that's what we're working on right now. We are, um, we've identified the issues that we'd like to address, and so now we're putting it in a format, background, problem and solution, and so when we get that finished, we'll certainly send it on to the Councils and School District (mumbled) Hayek/ Yeah, and I suspect Iowa City can...we'll make a best effort to look at that stuff and give you feedback in advance. Neuzil/ And it may be the other end as well, your local entities may want to actively get involved in some of these issues, as well, I mean, I would assume the School District would have some concern if the Iowa Legislature chooses not to fund, uh, the back...to backfill the dollars that are lost from TIF, uh...same thing with county's perspective on timetables for TIFs, the extension of just TIF districts and some of the other things that were pointed out. The other thing that, uh, would be helpful to have everyone kind of keep an eye on, and I think a lot of it depends on who's going to be our next governor, but there are a lot of proposals that are going to start coming out, uh, particularly from the Governor's office, if that's the case if it does change, and potentially from the Iowa Legislature to, uh, change...either the, uh, the ability for county and city and schools as far as our taxing limitation, to potentially alter that. Um, that is one concern. And, another concern is, um, to potentially take away, uh, commercial property taxes, and the impact that could have on all of us, uh, for our governmental entities, uh, there's some fairly significant, strong proposals out there that would reduce commercial taxes simply by 15% or more. So commercial taxes would pay 85% instead of 100, and...what kind of impact would that have on all of us as far as what we just had a discussion with our assessors. So, um, those potential proposals are out there, and I think the League of Municipalities (coughing) Association of Counties and the School Districts across the state are going to have to keep its eye on the ball here, because some of those proposals could be very, very real in this upcoming session. Hayek/ Okay. Let's move on to number nine, alcohol violations and policies. (mumbled) right here. You want to take this away, Tom? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council Joint Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 15 Alcohol Violations & Policies/Unified Policy (North Liberty): Salm/ Blame Jerry again since he's not here (laughter). Um, I think what he's getting at is just wanting to know if anybody's interested in having sort of, um, common goals with the different rules and regulations, as far as maybe drink specials and that sort of thing. Terry, do you know any more than that? Is he... Donahue/ Um...basically interested in knowing if the broader community has an interest in a community or countywide policy. Uh, one example might be, uh, (mumbled) servers be required to take training before allowed to serve, as we did recently with a local establishment. Uh, granting all new bars asix-month conditional license with some form of monitoring from experienced owners, eliminating drink specials... Sullivan/ I mean, from the county perspective we've got...you know, five or six golf courses, Windham and Sutliff, so you know it's not a...it's not something that's just a big...big issue for us. We don't have a lot of liquor licenses period. Stutsman/ We certainly wouldn't be opposed to, you know, a (both talking) but it's... Sullivan/ Not a high priority, I guess; we just have so little alcohol sales. Salm/ You know, North Liberty we don't, you know, everybody has some problems, of course, but we don't have the problems that Matt's had (mumbled) Hayek/ It's not a controversial issue right now or anything (laughter) Stutsman/ We should wait until after the November election and... Hayek/ Yeah. Stutsman/ Revisit this. Cause somebody approached me, um, too if there could be a countywide ordinance related to, um, alcohol sales, you know, what you're doing in the City, we do for the whole county. Now the previous county attorney said we couldn't do that, and so...we have a different county attorney and maybe we need to... Neuzil/ I think after some discussion, the County would have the ability to set a countywide ordinance, but the cities have the right to repeal that, uh, with council vote. So, it wouldn't take much, uh, for us to be able to pass something, to be able to rescind that fairly quickly (mumbled) but there is some value to...if the City of Iowa City and its residents choose to keep the 21 ordinance and vote no, uh, in the upcoming election, I think there would be some value of... of kind of sending the message countywide that if you're 19 and 20 years old you're not going to come into a bar, and maybe we could work collectively on the county's perspective, city of North Liberty, city of Coralville. don't know if there's even bars that have, uh, patrons come in after a certain period of time or not if there's 21 only. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council .lomt Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 16 Salm/ I think the other thing Jerry was thinking about is, uh, they call it the TIPS training for... you know, if that were more of a countywide requirement, cause I know you can go into some of the small towns (noise on mic) pretty lax. Stutsman/ I think there's some real possibility for future discussion. Wright/ I...I think there's actually room to discuss this, whether or not the 21 ordinance stays...to be honest, cause these are...some of these issues are going to still be there if we have 21 or if we don't. And... Champion/ If the referendum passes and we have to go back to 19, can the County pass a 21 law? Sullivan/ I think the...I think the issue that...this is back to when Pat White was County Attorney. Pat thought that it would be an issue that might go all the way to the Iowa Supreme Court because when you get into these jurisdictional issues, um, if you argue health, well counties have the right to legislate health because we have a Department of Public Health, and he thought you could make that argument, but he also thought that since alcohol sales were specifically to cities that you would have...a clash between two ordinances, two sections of code, and that it would have to be sorted out at the highest levels and he just...he didn't really want to go there, but that was sort of his feeling. I don't know; we've got another attorney in the room. I don't know... Hayek/ No, not that I know anything about that, but um...uh, I mean, there are so many legal and...uh, legislative limitations and parameters on this. I mean, when you talk about drink specials you have certain First Amendment considerations. When you talk about restrictions you have certain state restrictions through the ABD and, I mean, we would need input from...from staff to know what we really could even consider. Um, and I...I agree with Mike though, it might be a nice conversation, productive conversation, regardless of the outcome. Stutsman/ I guess I agree cause I can't vote on the issue, and yet I feel it impacts me too. You know, even though I live in the unincorporated area, and so I think it is an opportunity for us to address some of these issues, hopefully, countywide. It's just not Iowa City's problem. Hayek/ Yeah. Well, how do we want to proceed on that? Stutsman/ ...agenda for the next meeting? Neuzil/ And in the interim to look at, uh, maybe dissecting some of the issues that could be potentially what we can work together on, and I do like the idea of maybe some...some training. I think there's some strengths of, uh, what Iowa City has done over the last several years to, uh, teach its, uh, its owners and (mumbled) bartenders and such some of the limitations and things. Maybe that can be something...spread around. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council Joint Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 17 Hayek/ Okay. Great! Wright/ Thanks for bringing that one up! Hayek/ Thanks, Tom. Or Jerry! (laughter and several talking) Stutsman/ He' 11 take all the credit. Hayek/ Poor Jerry's suffering at home! (several talking) Uh, next item, County dwelling inspection update. County Dwelling Inspection Update (Johnson County): Rettig/ Um, this is the County's, although it says Iowa City. I think we put it on, so...um, we just wanted to make you all aware if you didn't read the newspaper that we are considering a county property maintenance and housing code. Uh, we've been working on this, actually since last winter, uh, and I think we might be into draft 14...I...I'm kind of blurry-eyed having read them all, um, but we have a...we're narrowing it down. If we were to pass something like this, it would not be Iowa City's code. It is much less, uh, more directed to life and safety and...and a lot less in appearance, although some of those issues, um, will also be handled by the Health Department. So, uh, tomorrow we have on our informal agenda a more, uh, thorough look at this and in the coming weeks we'll be putting it out for public comment. Uh, whatever route we decide to go on, I'm not sure that we have a...we haven't voted on it, so um...I...we just wanted to make you aware that we would put it out for public comment and there would be a series of three, uh, three hearings, meetings, on it and so...we would appreciate input and...and really should have a draft soon, that uh...could obviously read it now, but it's being changed as we speak, so...go right ahead! Sullivan/ I was just going to suggest that for, uh, for the cities whoever you use, I know Iowa City has their own division of housing inspections, uh, but...but for Tiffin and North Liberty, you may want to think about having whoever does that for you check in with the County Health Department because they are updating their regulations and there's a lot of places where there's overlap, and there are places where I think, um, housing kind of relies on Public Health to do things in places where public health relies on housing to do things and so it'd be good if your folks checked with the local Health Department to just make sure everybody's clear about changes. Hayek/ Great! Thank you. Thanks for your work on that. Next item is Justice Center planning. Justice Center Planning (Johnson County): Neuzil/ I'll take...go ahead and start with the lead on this (mumbled) follow up. Um, the Criminal Justice Coordinating Committee, uh, (mumbled) Justice Center planning has created an objectives document or a timeline of where we want to work towards, uh, the This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council ~omt Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 18 completion of a Justice Center, um, so we're in the process right now of...of hiring an architect, um, in part to create options for the Justice Center, in particular to prioritize the needs of, uh, both security, safety, and space, and that's really the emphasis here. Um... so along with the timeline, some of the things that, um, we anticipate working on includes, um, working with the potential of a communications firm, in part to help us define what the message would be, but also to get a feel for where the community is, um...and where we think that, uh, the timing would be right to ask voters to approve the potential for a bond referendum. So, um, so we just wanted to give you a quick report that the process continues to move forward. We do meet on a monthly basis and we certainly encourage, uh, all the communities, appreciate Iowa City having a representative, but we really would like to see all the communities consider joining in as this is not just a County issue -this is a community issue of a...of a Justice Center, the fact that our courthouse and our jail, uh, are inadequate, uh, and need improvement, and timing of when to ask voters for that, how much money it's going to take, uh, are all the questions that we have out there. As far as its location, I think Pat's going to lead some of that effort there where we are with that. Harney/ Well, as everyone knows, we're looking at the area surround the courthouse...where it presently sits. The Bar Association is pretty adamant about wanting to keep it downtown. The County Attorney, I think the Board is...is in agreement it should stay in a particular downtown area. The issue we're running into is space. Uh, the University is unwilling to give up any property around the jail for expansion off of the present jail area. So we're looking at purchasing those houses on the east side of Madison Street, uh, that may...or Capital Street that, excuse me, that...that may add to some of the space for us. (mumbled) work with GSA, the Government Services Agency, to trade some space off of their parking lot four. Uh, their...GSA is very adamant about wanting at least 200, 218 parking spaces because that's what they have in their present lot. Um, we've discussed the possibility of sharing a parking ramp nearby the courthouse, or the, uh, the Post Office so they could have space there, and then perhaps we could get a portion of their lot to add for building on to, uh, the Justice Center. And...they...they have no provisions in there, uh, I think it's called their 581C, GSA Rules and Regulations, that allows...it only allows for trading space for space. Nothing allows for trading improved property such as a parking ramp for a vacant lot. And their issue is the possibility of can they put a building on a space. In...in other words, if we put a parking ramp on part of the GSA lot, they would want to have control at some point that they could tear that down and put a building, if they needed it. And that's part of the problem of trying to get a, uh, the adjustment to trade space within a parking lot. We're thinking perhaps, and I've talked to them, matter of fact just today again, about uh, the possibility of...of trading parking ramp space and they keep portion of the lot where they could possibly put a building at a later date, and that would give us room to grow on the south side of Harris and then tie in with the courthouse area. One of the issues we're going to really...we need to really look at and that's...is more directed towards the City of Iowa City. If we do anything in that area, it appears whatever we do we're going to probably need to talk with you folks about the Harrison Street issue, whether we could vacate that and use part of that as a...a development, uh, portion of the street and access that particular area, and work in parking and so forth in some...some manner. We spoke with Jeff Davidson a little bit about, and This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council Joint Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 19 naturally it's the City Council's, uh, decision to make. Um... and I guess that's pretty much where we're at, uh, unless you folks have any questions. Champion/ It's been a constant struggle to find enough space to...to do our Justice Center, and we originally thought that the parking lot, the goverrunent parking lot, would be ideal if we could work with them, but it seems pretty hopeless, don't you think, Pat? Harney/ They said that it's going to take (both talking) Champion/ Seven years. Harney/Three...three years if we were just trading property for property, and they're talking five, five maybe seven if we try to do this, uh, parking lot, uh, parking ramp issue, cause it has to go through so many channels within the government, um, and...and we talked to the legislators and...and GSA had mentioned that to them, and they...they say, well, they can help, but it doesn't really speed up because it has to go through so many channels and through so many people for approval, so they said it's going to take at least that long, so...the problem we're running into is if we're going to hire someone to give us options on how we can build, we need to know where a building's going to go. We're not at the point where we're going to really design at this point, but we need to have an idea of the landscape, how it's going to sit, and where we want it to go, so we really kind of need to know where we're going to go, as is, you know, possibility perhaps we could in fact if we could get Harrison Street design something behind the courthouse, wrap it around, bring it partially up and still work in the meantime with the GSA for future expansion space and parking space. So...there's a lot of options out there that they're...they are willing to work with us. They're not saying no. It's just...it takes...the process takes so long. Champion/ And we're also looking, um, at possibility of staging the whole thing so it's not...cause it's going to be really very expensive and it's even more expensive than the last jail that was turned down by the voters, but I think Pat's done a great job working with the federal government (mumbled) not too much fun! (laughter) Hayek/ Tough issue, but an extremely important one. Okay. Thanks, Pat. Phillips/ I do have a question for Terrence. I didn't quite follow what exactly you were talking about with the City's participation. Neuzil/ Well, eventually, this is going to be a countywide vote. And with it being a countywide vote, I think it's imperative that we have city buy-in to this project, and to get city buy-in to this project, we really would like you folks to be in it from the beginning, rather than kind of at the end, and we're in that process right now, from now until at least July of this coming year of really putting this, uh, this timeline in place, and so if we can get, uh, someone from each of your communities, maybe it's staff, maybe it's an elected official, to join us either on a subcommittee. Um, it can be into the area of alternatives and treatments; it can be, uh, public information and outreach; it can be on our grants, our financial part; or it could be on the facilities, but somewhere in there, um, eventually as we go through and we start to develop the message, and we start to spread the word about the need for this facility, uh, I think we're really going to need buy-in from all the This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council Joint Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 20 communities around to share with their residents and to all their constituents throughout the community that this is a community problem, uh, and so we would really like, uh, like you folks to be a part of that decision-making early on. Sullivan/ One of the big pieces of buy-in...is what else is on the ballot. Because if people are given a choice between voting for say a new school...or a jail...the choice is pretty easy. You know, everybody benefits from the schools. The jails are sort of...hidden, most people don't go there, they don't see it, they don't know anybody that goes there, but it's still a really important part of the community. I mean, you can't have a justice system without it, and so part of the buy-in I think is just simply acknowledging that when this is on the ballot, anything that goes on the ballot with it...presents a big challenge. Harney/ And the other comment I would make is...is and the Sheriff would tell you up front is, the costs just keep going up. As many alternative methods have been put into place and trying to release people and so forth and (mumbled) it still tends to increase. We're approaching fast $1... $1.5 million plus, uh, just for shipping, and the Sheriff had to spend almost $80,000 for transport vehicles so they could haul more than just a few people to alternative sites. So, it's really becoming costly to do this, when that money could be going into a facility. And the safety portion of the courthouse is (mumbled) making that safe and running people through, uh, metal detectors and so forth. Hayek/ Thank you. Let's move on to the Board of Supervisors request for action concerning issues with JECC. (several talking) Board of Supervisors Request for Action Re• Issues/Concerns with Joint Emergency Communications Center (Johnson County): Sullivan/ Um, there's a handout going around that's a little bit rough so, uh, apologize for that, but I think it gets to the basics. Um, there are a handful of issues, five or six perhaps, that the County has, um, brought forward to the Joint Emergency Communication Center Board. Um, the problem with that approach is that that board, uh, is really made up of all the different entities, and so the board can't, um, really do anything. The board needs the individual entities to do anything if anything were to change. So, uh, before you you have a list of some of the issues that the County Board of Supervisors has had, and what we would like to do is...is I guess formally ask the other signatories, that would be Iowa City, Coralville, North Liberty, and the, uh, Emergency Management Association, to consider these, uh, in their individual... entities, and uh, basically let us know if you support any of these. We'd like to try to move `em forward. So, basically asking each individual... signatory to that 28E to consider these. Hayek/ So take these back to our respective entities, have the discussion internally, and give you an answer? Sullivan/ And I think...obviously i£..if there were one or two that...that your individual councils felt were worthy and one or two that you didn't, we'd want to know that too. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council Joint Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 21 Neuzil/ And the JECC Board, um, or at least the way that the 28E contract is put in place does require four out of the five entities to, uh, really, uh, make....make a change, and so I think...these are the issues that the County has identified as concerns and if there are four out of the five entities that have concerns with us, three others if you will, then um, then I think then it's imperative the JECC Board would...would, uh, work to make that change in that...in that 28E (mumbled) Hayek/ Okay, we will do so! Thank you. Okay, any other business? Other Business: Harney/ There's one thing I wanted to bring up. I didn't actually want to put it on as an agenda item. It's just for everyone's information. Uh, and the Sheriff is very interested in this as well, is...is the new weapon's law where they have to issue permits to people that actually, uh, request them. He can't be as restrictive as he once was. And I've asked the County Attorney to take a look at that on... on, uh, how we can make that illegal to bring them into county buildings and into the, onto the county properties and so forth. There is a provision in there that allows communities and businesses and so forth put signs on their doors and windows, saying they're not allowed. It's just food for thought, uh, communities might want to begin thinking about that, because that's...that's going to become pretty active here pretty soon. Neuzil/ You're talking concealed weapons permits? Harney/ Yes. Stutsman/ Matt, I just wanted to mention that the Board's been working on our strategic plan, and we just about have, um, the draft ready for public comment, so we are going to put that on our web page and ask people, um, to, uh, to comment on that before we pass the final (mumbled). Andy, what was...when were we tentatively...in about a week...it'll be up on the County web site. So take a look and see what you think! (several talking) Hayek/ Thank you. Any other business? All right. Schedule Next Meeting Hayek/Why don't we schedule the next meeting. County hosts next? (several talking) Based on this it is. Rettig/ Terrence will bake cookies! (laughter) Pie! Hayek/ I want a pig roast! (laughter) Rettig/ A pig roast, not a bad idea! (several talking) Are we supposed to meet every three months or what are we supposed to do? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council Joint Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Hayek/ Quarterly. (several talking) Rettig/ So we're talking about January? Hayek/ It's not a busy time for budgets or anything (laughter) (several talking) Rettig/ Today is the third Wednesday. Sullivan/ Be January 19t"~ Page 22 Hayek/ I'm getting some, uh, I'm getting suggestions from our end to look into February, given what we've got going on in January. (several talking) Oh yeah, for budget reasons! Wright/ Just a little thing! Rettig/ So the third Wednesday is February 16t". (several talking) Hayek/ Second or fourth week of February? Stutsman/ February 8t", or February 9`"~ Neuzil/ Look at the fourth Wednesday in February. (several talking) How about the 23`a, everyone? (several talking) Hayek/ Is that a Wednesday? Phillips/ Work session night for us but as long as we get done at this time... Rettig/ So February 23`a at 4:30? (several talking) Hayek/ Okay, so February 23`a at, uh, 4:30 at the County. (several talking) Okay. You'll let us know. Rettig/ And before you pack up, this "A" here is ours. Um, JCCOG re-did their bylaws and in those meetings, Royce, Jerry, and Brad and John Yapp, uh, we all talked about how valuable these meetings are, but people were being left out, including Royce, who found out about the last one from, uh, Mayor Fausett. Phillips/ At a ribbon cutting. Rettig/ At a ribbon cutting earlier that morning. So we proposed, um, that this be opened up to any of the governmental bodies in Johnson County. We don't think they'll actually come, but Clear Creek Amana is much...they're building schools as quickly as Iowa City, it seems like, and so that's what this is on here is that, uh, the three main...the three school district...the three additional school districts (person talking away from mic) yeah, cause Lone Tree, Clear Creek, Solon...one's...small but...but they're not necessarily This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council Joint Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 23 building schools in our county that would impact the roads and... and that the eleven small cities be invited. That doesn't mean they're going to come. There was some discussion we'd need bigger meeting rooms and I don't think that's actually going to happen cause, um, but anyway...I think we just wanted to bring it to everyone's attention and see if we're all right with this. I was interested to know the history of why these meetings occur and it had to do with a specific road and one school, and everybody thought they should get together and talk about it, and from that has become what 1 think is a very valuable (mumbled) opportunity to exchange what's going on. Phillips/ (several talking) board meetings are limited in what they can do, just from the (mumbled), and I think a broader scope is beneficial. Rettig/ Everybody think that's okay to invite everyone? (several talking) Bailey/ ... you can invite whoever you want, you're hosting it. Rettig/ Well then the city clerk's would take over the next one, I mean, we'd just... Hayek/ I think we should be prepared for what could be a big response, and uh, facilitate, you know, facilities wise have something else to deal with, but... Champion/ ...make `em drive into the... Hayek/ I mean, that could... (both talking) Champion/ ...might not show up. Rettig/ So if that's all right I'm...we would plan on inviting all the governmental bodies and if they show we'll know, so by the time someone else hosts we'd have an idea of where it needs to be. (several talking) Champion/ There's not a space there big enough to hold us! (male)/ Unless you do something bad, Connie! (laughter) Hayek/ Do we need a motion to...adjourn? Higgins/ Oh, Mr. Mayor, one thing I'd like to interject about, um, additions, um...is a, I think that it'd potentially be beneficial to have a University official, um, like someone from the Administration. I would like to say I appreciate you allowing us to sit here, um, it means the world to us, but I think that, um, it might be more beneficial, perhaps, to have an Administration official here. Um, seeing as they do make a big impact to not only Iowa City, but to Johnson County, um, I understand that...I think everyone that I see invited is an elected official, um, I don't know if that'd be a hang-up, but I'd just like to make that recommendation and... This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council Jomt Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 24 Hayek/ Someone from a particular department within the University? Higgins/ Well, I was thinking, uh, the President of the University perhaps, just someone in the Administration. Rettig/ Well they have a representative on JCCOG so...it makes sense. (several talking) Yeah. Neuzil/ Representative on the Chamber. Hayek/ Yeah. Rettig/ We could leave that up to them about who they want to have on the email list but...I mean, it is a public meeting, but I mean...(several talking) Wright/ I just have to say that my only concern about opening this up to everybody is that we, in theory, we could end up with a group that's unwieldy and useless. Because when it becomes so large the agenda's not going to be functional. Champion/ I think that's a really valid point, cause groups get large and then nothing gets done. Wright/ Yeah! Anybody can come! But if we want...if we really open this up, I'm afraid we're going to dilute the purpose of this group so much that it really becomes a pointless exercise. Chipman/ Or my concern would be that you have a meeting that's two and a half hours long because everybody has so many things that they put on the agenda, that...you know, your time is not being used wisely. (male)/ You got to balance how broad you want to make it. If you want to just have three or four people then... Bailey/ Well, there are items on these agendas that warrant input, and there are items that are more of an, of a reporting nature, and I think the host entity could identify those that are more appropriately memo'd and more appropriately discussed, and control that agenda a little bit more rigorously, if that's a concern. I'm very interested. I'm not speaking for the rest of my colleagues, and I agree with Elliott that a University person should be invited. I'm very interested in hearing from the other communities in Johnson County. I mean, increasingly, um, you know, we're very connected, and our metro area is doing very well because of the region, and I think hearing from other entities is...is important. So, I think it's...I think it's a great step and let's try it and see what happens. That's what I would personally say. Champion/ If they all decide to join, I say let them get their own group (laughter) no, but if... Rettig/ Are we throwing Royce out or not (several talking and laughing). It's the first time he's actually been invited! (laughter) This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council Joint Meeting of October 20, 2010. October 20, 2010 City Council Joint Meeting Page 25 Phillips/ Get dis-invited the second meeting? Wright/ You've behaved fairly well. I think you can come back! Rettig/ We don't...actually we don't expect very many will show up, but there is one or two cities that are growing in such a way that they may have come and sharing of information. I think we would see very quickly if this was going to get unruly and... Sullivan/ Well, and we're...we're hosting the next one, and we've got a space that's plenty big enough, even if everybody did show up, and so we can see what kind of response we get, and see if the meeting becomes a problem in terms of either size or length, and we can make a decision based on that. Wright/ That'd probably be the best choice. I wasn't saying that as a reason not to do it; I was just throwing it out there as a concern if we had everybody take us up on an offer. Champion/ And if they all do decide to join us, then we might have to go with where we have delegates. Chipman/ And Johnson County would be responsible for extending this invitation to all these other entities and... (several talking) Rettig/ Well, Andy, he's our city clerk. (laughter and several talking) Champion/ All right. Hayek/ So it sounds Pike there's consensus to give that a shot. Okay. Okay. Thanks for that, Elliott, that was an excellent suggestion. Do we need a motion to adjourn, or can we just break up the party? All right, well, thank you for coming. Productive meeting. We'll see you all soon! This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa (;ity City council ~olnt Meeting of October 20, 2010.