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Council Present:
Staff Present:
Others Present:
Astenda Items:
Bailey, Champion, Dickens, Hayek, Mims, Wright, Wilburn (arrived at
6:27 P.M.)
Markus, Helling, Dilkes, Karr, Fosse, Boelk, Moran, Davidson, Dulek,
Morris
Patel, UISG
Hayek/ Okay, welcome to the work session, everyone! Got just a few minutes so let's try to
work through things as quickly as we can. First up is agenda items.
3e(5) CONSIDER A RESOLUTION SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR
JUNE 21, 2011, REGARDING THE INTENT TO ENTER INTO A LEASE
AGREEMENT WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF IOWA.
Karr/ Just like to note real quickly, we're going to be amending the Consent Calendar to add
3.e.5, which is setting a public hearing on the lease agreement with the Library. Deleting
3, um, 7, which was authorizing the resolution and deferring that until the 21St, after your
public hearing. And then, uh, pulling Cindy Roberts' letter under correspondence, 3.g.5,
to accept for the PIN grant. So we'll be adopting it as amended.
Hayek/ Thanks! Um, why don't you guys come up on ... on the Gilbert Street, Item 24,
uh ... could address us on that.
ITEM 24. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT AND
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO
ATTEST A CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE GILBERT
STREET STREETSCAPE PROJECT.
Boelk/ Sure. Good evening, Council! I'm Brian Boelk, Senior Civil Engineer. I just wanted to
let you know you should have a memo there with regards to the Gilbert Street streetscape
project, uh, which you're well aware of, and we've gone over in work sessions before.
We took bids on May 26th, and as you can see, uh, all three bids did come in considerably
higher than the engineer's estimate. However, they were ranged, uh, in a pretty close
range, which, um, after looking at that tells us that that's the cost it's going to be at this
time to get this work done. We did a little bit investigative, uh, and the consultant did as
well, and it seems like the costs were mainly in the electrical. That has gone up
considerably in the last one to two months, and in talking with other communities,
they've seen the same thing, and with University projects. With that being known, uh,
we took a look at the project and wanted to see if we could still fit it in within our budget
by reducing something in the project that would, uh, handle that. And in doing so we
took away the five light fixtures on the east side of Gilbert Street between Burlington and
the creek, and then all the, um, circuitry that goes with that. That reduces, uh, the project
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by roughly 60...$63,000, I believe, uh, which gets us right back ... very close to within the
original engineer's estimate and the budget. So, uh, at this time, uh, Engineering and
Public Works still recommends that we award to the low bidder, and I should say that by
making those adjustments in the contract, the low bidder still remains the same low
bidder. Uh, we recommend awarding still to the low bidder by taking that out of the
contract and proceeding with the project. Any questions?
Champion/ My question is, what lights are there now? I think ... I don't know if this is
(mumbled) to take those lights away at this point.
Boelk/ Sure, no, that's a good question, um, and with ... with that is ... is the proposed 15 lights is
what we had proposed for going in with the project, similar to the ones that are already
along Gilbert and Burlington Street with the decorative lighting. Uh, we would still keep
ten of them in the project; just take the five out along that east side. Uh, for a couple
reasons. One being, it's one joint section there with the same electrical feeder line.
Another is there is street lights currently along there, and then a third being, um, that ... we
didn't see it as much of a ... uh, busy area with regards to the commercial area and the
students and everything walking there as much as on the other side. But there are a
couple streetlights there currently.
Champion/ Okay. (mumbled)
Boelk/ (unable to hear other person) Yes, correct, those would stay!
Wright/ Will this have the effect of ... (noise on mic) Sorry! Will this have the effect of making
it look like we ran out of money? (laughter) Frankly?
Boelk/ Good question. I think ... I don't think as much because we'll have the whole west side
will still be continuous lights, and I think will be broken up by the creek there, where,
you know, we'll just have a ... really just a couple lights there in front of the Mansion and
Clark's apartments' area there, where we're going to also be doing some other
streetscape. So really the lighting will be going in where we're doing predominantly the
rest of the streetscape area, uh, whereas this part on the east side was kind of stand alone,
just lights. There was nothing else being done there, so ... I think in that ... (mumbled) it's
going to be okay.
Wright/ All right. Thank you!
Dickens/ Are we going to have to upgrade the current lights at all, when they're doing that work
or...
Boelk/ No ... we ... no. For the existing streetlights there? No, that should not be an issue.
Champion/ How does everybody else feel about this? I mean (mumbled) bids on all of our
projects this year, and I kind of hate to see this kind of half done. It's ... how,
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$63,000 ... uh, $41,000 for the light fixtures, and $23,000 for the electrical? I'd kind of
like to see `em stay in there.
Bailey/ I'd kind of like to see (mumbled) I think that was the concern, I mean, we had a really
nice streetscape design, and that didn't. So ... I mean, I appreciate staff looking at
what ... what can be reduced so we can.
Wright/ And ... I guess (mumbled) fact that it's that section between Burlington and the creek.
Bailey/ (mumbled)
Wright/ On the east side (both talking) might be a little less visible (mumbled)
Dickens/ (mumbled) residential (mumbled)
Boelk/ It is ... it would leave you open too, you know, if we came in with another phase sometime
in the future that you could streetscape that area and bring in the lights at that time, as
well.
Fosse/ I just wanted to be clear on the procedure for tonight, if we want to go that route. Is we
would award the entire project, as it has been bid, and then we would eliminate those
items by change order later. Just so you understand the procedure on that.
Hayek/ So we ... we pass the, assuming there's support, what's on the agenda, and then make
these changes (both talking)
Fosse/ Yes!
Hayek/ ... subsequent (mumbled)
Fosse/ That's correct!
Mims/ Yeah, I'd like to see it come in on budget. I mean, I know we've gotten some good bids
on other stuff, but ... we've just got so much out there and uncertainty overall in budget.
I ... and the fact that this is a ... defined section, um ... I'd rather (mumbled)
Hayek/ Okay. Okay, thanks, Brian.
Boelk/ Thank you.
Hayek/ Thanks, Rick. Other agenda items?
ITEM 3. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED OR AMENDED.
g) Correspondence.
6. Steve Fugate: I -Renew solar cell phone charging
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Bailey/ I had a question about the letter in 3.g.6, about the cell phone charging downtown and
why it's not, I mean, I'm just curious if anybody's gotten back to him and what the
issue...
Helling/ Yes, I have talked to him.
Bailey/ Right! Okay, and what is the ... how does that fall in our ordinances?
Helling/ Um, it...it would be under the definitions ... I ... commercial activity.
Bailey/ Ah, okay!
Helling/ Um ... it ... and ... or something more than simply informational. That's the ... that's the
whole issue. He wanted to do a demonstration, have a piece of equipment out there and
so forth, and then it starts to get into that realm of maybe it's commercial, maybe there's
a product that will be for sale, you know, that type of thing, so it really goes
beyond ... well beyond what we (mumbled)
Bailey/ Okay. It's just helpful to have that language so if we get calls about it (both talking)
Helling/ Right! Yes.
Bailey/ ...we can use that. Thanks!
3. Steve Smith: "Dude" housing... growing cancer for the Near Northside
Mims/ I had a question, or just ... is it something that we want to bring up for discussion at some
other time on 3.g ... uh, number 3, the ... the "dude housing" letter. Um ... just that
whole ... you know, what's happening in some of these near ... near neighborhoods and
what can be done, what, you know, what do we want to look at, are there ways that we as
a city can be proactive in ways that we're not now, um, to help maintain those.
Bailey/ And I did correspond with him because the original letter came to me and ... and pointed
them in the direction of our nuisance ordinance and the University program, but um ... if
there are other ideas that everybody has, I think it would be helpful.
Mims/ (both talking)
Bailey/ ...talking about something that is currently...
Markus/ Staff hasn't come up with anything so far. I think, urn ... I think it might be a good
discussion, an open discussion, at some point. I think there are those concerns that exist
in the neighborhoods, and probably having an open discussion might be of some benefit.
Hayek/ (mumbled)
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Mims/ ...work session item at some point?
Wright/ I think that would be good!
Hayek/ Okay (mumbled)
Markus/ Give us some time to think about it and see if we can't create some... possible solutions.
Mims/ I ... I didn't have any particular solutions, but just (both talking)
Markus/ Most people I've talked to have an idea about how to resolve this issue.
Champion/ Well one of the rules is that you can't...
Dilkes/ Well, it sounds to me like ... I mean, at least... some of the examples being given were
examples of over occupancy.
Champion/ Right!
Bailey/ Right, and I (both talking)
Dilkes/ So presumably that would be one of the enforcement (several talking)
Bailey/ ...walk them through. I think a lot of our neighborhoods, or ... or maybe we need to take
out the neighborhood ordinances that we passed a couple years ago and that flyer again,
because I think people have forgotten what's available to them. They see problems and
think, `We need new solutions,' when (both talking)
Mims/ Maybe they're already there!
Bailey/ Yeah, they might be already there. They're just unaware.
7. John Moreland, Jr.: Stone Bridge Preliminary Plat
Mims/ Okay. Also in that correspondence, um, the Stone Bridge preliminary plat. I
don't ... know the history of things like this when plats expire after two years. Are they
ever extended or...
Dilkes/ Yes, we do that.
Mims/ Okay. So is this something that staff is responding to and will bring to us or ... what's the
thought?
Davidson/ Staff has no problem with you extending it, but it's up to you ultimately.
Mims/ Okay. So, are other people interested in...
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Bailey/ Which item are you on? I'm sorry, I don't...
Mims/ It was 3.g.7, from John Moreland, Stone Bridge (both talking)
Davidson/ We told Mr. Moreland he needed to make a formal request to the City Council to have
it extended.
Bailey/ Oh!
Mims/ Okay! So he's aware of that then.
Davidson/ He's aware of that.
Mims/ Okay. Thank you!
Dilkes/ (several talking) agenda.
Hayek/ Okay. All right.
Dilkes/ It'll appear on the agenda, I assume.
Mims/ So we'll just wait for him to make that formal request. Okay.
ITEM 7. APPROVING PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS, FORM OF CONTRACT, AND
ESTIMATE OF COST FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FY 2012
ASPHALT RESURFACING PROJECT, ESTABLISHING AMOUNT OF
BID SECURITY TO ACCOMPANY EACH BID, DIRECTING CITY
CLERK TO PUBLISH NOTICE TO BIDDERS, AND FIXING TIME AND
PLACE FOR RECEIPT OF BIDS.
Bailey/ I had one (both talking) if you're looking. Um, Item number 7, we're doing some
median repair, and I'm just curious because a lot of our ... Connie brought this up a couple
weeks ago, a lot of our medians aren't looking very good. What does that entail?
Fosse/ Uh, there's a couple areas where we have medians that are filled with asphalt.
Bailey/ Right.
Fosse/ Uh, on State highway routes, and those just aren't holding up well. So that asphalt will be
removed and then it'll be replaced with new material there.
Bailey/ So it'll... it'll still be filled in essentially.
Fosse/ Yes, yes it will be.
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Bailey/ Okay. Thanks!
Fosse/ Uh -huh.
Council Appointments:
Hayek/ Before I forget, let me just ... uh, bring up a couple of Council appointments and get those
out of the way, if we could. Um, one there's a, uh, recommendation from the County for,
uh, someone to the Board of the Library Trustees. Is there general support for that?
Champion/ Sure!
Bailey/ Yeah (several responding)
Hayek/ Okay. And of no less importance is our nominee to the Seats Paratransit Advisory
Committee. What our, uh, esteemed Council Member Dickens (mumbled) (several
talking)
Dickens/ (mumbled) (laughter) a month ago so (mumbled)
Hayek/ Perfect attendance record!
Dickens/ Yes!
Hayek/ Good!
Bailey/ (mumbled)
Hayek/ Okay. Thank you!
Agenda Items (cont.)
ITEM 11. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 6, ENTITLED
"PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, CHAPTER 4, ENTITLED, "NOISE
CONTROL," AND TITLE 10 OF THE CITY CODE, ENTITLED "PUBLIC
WAYS AND PROPERTY," CHAPTERS 1 AND 5, TO ESTABLISH A
PERMIT SYSTEM FOR AMPLIFIED SOUND ON CITY PLAZA, TO
ESTABLISH A PERMIT SYSTEM FOR INFORMATION TABLES ON
CITY PLAZA, AND TO ALLOW CERTAIN PUBLIC
ASSEMBLY/PARADE PERMITTEES TO SELL GOODS AND SERVICES
AND USE AMPLIFIED SOUND. (FIRST CONSIDERATION)
Bailey/ I have some questions on Item 11, but I wonder if we want to leave that to the meeting?
Mims/ I was just thinking the same thing. Yeah, that's what I was thinking, just wait til the
formal (both talking)
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ITEM 18. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREEMENT
BETWEEN THE CITY OF IOWA CITY AND JOHNSON COUNTY
DOGPAC FOR JOINT MAINTENANCE OF THE THORNBERRY AND
RITA'S RANCH OFF -LEASH DOG PARKS.
Wright/ I was just going to bring up something related to Item 18 that I just ... I mentioned to the
City Manager before we got started, um ... just that I ... I think at some point we may want
to consider the fee structure that we have for the dog park. Apparently all who visit the
dog park pay the same fees (both talking) Iowa City or not?
Markus/ (mumbled)
Wright/ Something that, uh ... Park and Rec (mumbled) again. (mumbled) City is subsidizing it.
Bailey/ Right, so you think that residents should pay (both talking)
Wright/ Non - residents should pay a little extra.
Bailey/ Yeah, I agree!
Hayek/ Anybody want to proceed ... you want to look at that? Do we need to...
Bailey/ Can Parks and Rec look at that?
Markus/ Do we have any legal issues with resident and non - resident rates?
Dilkes/ I ... I don't know ... I haven't heard the whole conversation.
Markus/ On the dog parks, there's a question of whether we should charge a different rate for
non - resident use of the dog park, versus a resident?
Dilkes/ No, I think we could. We do with (both talking)
Moran/ ...currently now with most of our recreation programs. And it's just based on the
address they give us, so we would have to go back to the address of the dog they licensed.
Wright/ Certain amount of trust comes in ... comes in to play there, but...
Moran/ Right. Yeah.
Bailey/ Should Parks and Rec look at it first and bring it to us? Is that possible (several talking)
on your schedule?
Moran/ Yeah, we meet tomorrow, so I'll bring that up to them and get that started.
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Bailey/ Okay.
Wright/ Thank you, Mike.
Hayek/ Other agenda items?
ITEM 12. CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 8, POLICE
REGULATIONS, CHAPTER 5, MISCELLANEOUS OFFENSES, TO ADD
A NEW SECTION 12, ENTITLED "FIREWORKS." (FIRST
CONSIDERATION)
Wright/ This is truly a category of `I simply don't know what the case is.' We had the fireworks
ordinance, number 12, Item 12. Aren't fireworks already banned under State law?
Bailey/ I thought they were in Iowa, but...
Dilkes/ I'm not sure! (laughter) Um ... I mean, the reason for this was because we prosecute `em
under, as Municipal Infractions under City code ... um...
Wright/ Okay.
Dilkes/ Um ... and we want to be able to do it simply, um, I don't know if it's a question of just
having a city code provision or ... I don't know. I'd have to ... check.
Wright/ I just...
Dilkes/ (mumbled) give it first reading and then I'll get that answer for ya!
Wright/ Okay, that's fine.
Dilkes/ Yeah.
Bailey/ That'd be good.
Wright/ Thank you.
ITEM 17. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INSTALLATION OF
SPEED HUMPS ON TIPPERARY ROAD BETWEEN SHANNON DRIVE
AND DUBLIN DRIVE
Mims/ I just had a question on number 17, the ... the traffic calming on Tipperary Road. And I
guess my question became... looking at the number of people who were surveyed and
responded, it looked like there were very few houses in that section of road that are being
affected, and also with the fact that we are going to take another look at our traffic
calming policy, I think on a work session maybe in August the schedule looked like.
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Davidson/ Uh -huh.
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Mims/ And the fact that there were at least some correspondence against it, if there was any
interest in ... deferring this until we reviewed the traffic calming policy?
Davidson/ And just to clarify, um ... there were, uh, let's see, there was 100% approval from the
survey respondents, four of the six households responded. And for the unoccupied lots,
the survey went to the property owner, subdivision owner, um, and as, um, Susan has
noted, there was correspondence opposing it, but the survey was 100% in favor. And
yes, it is scheduled for August, tentatively the August meeting is when you'll be
discussing the overall policy, and you've heard us say before, it is strictly your policy.
You can do whatever you like with it.
Mims/ (several talking) throw that out...
Wright/ Four respondents and three letters of complaint, or three letters against, I should say.
Champion/ I don't have any problems with it. I think frankly those, whatever they call those
bumps, humps, whatever they are.
Wright/ Speed humps?
Champion/ Right. If you ... if you aren't speeding you really don't have to slow down for them.
Davidson/ There's already one speed hump just down the street over the creek, and this would
add two to the ... to the loop that connects Dublin with Shannon.
Hayek/ Correct me if I'm ... my memory is bad on this, but wasn't the discussion behind taking
this policy up for another look more aimed at the trigger points?
Champion/ Yes!
Davidson/ I think it was related almost 100 %, Matt, to the collector street threshold of 3,000
vehicles a day. Uh, the ... the block, or the couple of blocks of Court Street, between
Muscatine and Summit are over that threshold, and the neighborhood has been quite
emphatic about you changing that threshold so that they would be eligible for, uh, traffic
calming on their street.
Hayek/ I'm okay proceeding with this tonight, but ... but...
Bailey/ I am too ... I mean, I would hate to catch... they're meeting all the qualifications. I would
hate to catch them in some kind of...in our problem (both talking)
Mims/ I just thought I'd raise it.
Bailey/ That's fine.
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8. Veronica Tessler: Opening new business on ped. mall.
Wright/ Um, 3.g.8 in the correspondence, that was the ... issue with the small business that was
trying to come in, and (mumbled) came with that. I just ... it's really an unfortunate
situation, but I don't... there's... we really... there's not anything we can do, in terms of...
Dilkes/ No.
Wright/ Yeah.
Hayek/ Short of changing the law.
Dilkes/ Short of changing...
Wright/ I'm really not interested in changing that proximity ordinance. That's been very useful.
Bailey/ One of the things I think we do need to explore from an economic development
perspective, I mean, she needs a very ... I spoke with her, and I know others spoke with
her as well, she needs a very small space, and I think that there would be opportunity
downtown for some of those building owners to divide their spaces, but how can we
make that easy and ... and are we proceeding with something or are we discussing that,
and I think that that's ... that should be something just sort of in a proactive, not to address
this, but what we're seeing for people needing space downtown, and it's really much
smaller spaces than are becoming available.
Wright/ Some of those places are huge right now!
Hayek/ You know, this ... this could be a small component of the discussion we anticipate having,
um, which staff is working on now with ... with development downtown and things of that
nature, and I ... I speak from personal experience when ... when, uh, the building that my
partners and I own was trying to reconfigure our first floor space and preserve some
office space for us. There's a ... there's a maximum square footage you can have, uh,
without triggering a requirement to have a second egress and...
Bailey/ ADA compliant and...
Hayek/ Those are ... this would fit into that discussion.
Bailey/ Uh -huh.
Hayek/ So...
Champion/ There has been demand for small spaces downtown as long as I've been in business,
which is ... 34 or 5 years, yeah, so this is not a new problem and it's a good time to start
addressing it, and I agree.
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Bailey/ Well, when some large spaces are coming open and there is opportunity, yeah.
Wright/ Yeah, the actual problem here was not our ordinance. It was just a very unfortunate
mistake.
Bailey/ (mumbled) sometimes we (mumbled)
Wright/ Yes we do!
Champion/ (mumbled)
Hayek/ Other agenda items? Do we want to reserve all of 11 for, uh, the open meeting? We've
got a little time here.
Karr/ Mr. Mayor? We would like to talk about the meeting schedule too.
Hayek/ Okay, so let's (both talking)
Karr/ ...meeting schedule afterwards too. Doesn't make any difference (noises on mic)
Wright/ Why don't we save 11 for (several talking)
Hayek/ Okay. Are there any other, uh, agenda items then that we haven't touched upon yet?
Bailey/ We've done most of `em!
Information Packet Discussion:
Hayek/ Okay. Info packet discussion. First packet from May 26th. Okay, hearing none on that.
I'll move us to the June 2nd info packet.
Karr/ Can we go back, May 26th I've got the KXIC radio show.
Hayek/ I'm tomorrow.
Karr/ Right (both talking)
Hayek/ ... next week?
Mims/ Yep. Got it on my calendar.
Hayek/ And they'll call me tomorrow. Marian, do you have that set up?
Karr/ And I think we are also ready, because of your scheduling, talk about ... I see you're the
15t " ... okay. Everybody's got it through the 15th. Okay.
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Hayek/ All right. Uh, anything on the June 2nd packet? Okay. Council...
Wright/ I'm sorry. We had the meeting schedule. (several talking) Oh, that is a
separate... sorry!
Hayek/ Separate, yeah.
Wright/ (mumbled)
Council Time:
Hayek/ Council time?
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Champion/ I have a question for Parks and Rec, as long as we have a representative here! Um,
I've had three weeks of a lot of grandchildren at my house (laughter) and I thank
goodness for the City's recreational facilities, but I was wondering about the rides at City
Park, which I dearly love, I mean, they're obviously intended for small children, and yet
they don't open til noon, and they all take naps! Everybody talks about opening early in
the morning? Earlier? Or is it just not good?
Moran/ We haven't had much discussion about that, and those hours have been established based
on people attending, and that just seems to be better. The noon was the earliest because
ball games and stuff start at 5:00 and so we used to get an influx of people before the
games and (both talking) and then after the games as well. And then the pool schedule
was set, especially this year, for later on so that we would encourage kids to go
swimming at a cheaper rate, up at City Park pool after 5:00.
Champion/ Okay. (mumbled) change it just for me? (laughter) No!
Moran/ Uh, maybe, but I doubt it (both talking)
Champion/ ... seriously! They love it! Thank you!
Budget:
Hayek/ Other council time? All right. Budget? Okay. Pending work session issues?
Pending Work Session Issues:
Hayek/ That's in your, uh, June 2nd packet. Anything to add on that?
Champion/ (several talking) the neighborhood concerns.
Hayek/ Right, yeah.
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Karr/ I'm sorry, Connie, add ... over occupancy from the...
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Hayek/ You know, I'd love to bootstrap into that, uh, a renewed discussion on, um, yards, grass,
yards, just general... we've talked about this before, but we're back into summer and
there are ... plenty of front yards that are in pretty bad shape, not being attended to. We
went down this road a year ago and didn't get very far.
Bailey/ I guess I haven't seen a lot of front yards not attended to but...
Hayek/ You think they are being, is that your... sense?
Bailey/ Maybe we have different standards. (both talking)
Hayek/ ...this shorter re- ordinance. Maybe I'll just cool my jets and see how that plays out.
(several talking) Okay, any other Council, uh, or pending work session items? Okay.
Upcoming events, Council invitations? Okay. Meeting schedules.
Meeting Schedules:
Karr/ IP3 in your 6/2 packet proposes a change to the summer schedule by reducing the first and
third in July and August to one, and then also proposes, uh, September, October,
November, December schedule.
Bailey/ How did we come up with that August date? (laughter)
Karr/ Uh, that August date was based on, uh ... two people, or three people being gone the second
and third weeks in August.
Bailey/ Okay. Cause that's...
Karr/ Yeah, your preference...
Bailey/ No, yeah...
Karr/ The preference...
Bailey/ Okay.
Karr/ Um, if schedules have changed, we certainly can take a look ... I know Connie was going to
be gone, um...
Champion/ The 71n
Karr/ The week of the 7th, uh, Terry is gone the week of the 15 /16th, and I don't have my
schedule with me, there was someone else going to be...
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Mims/ I'm probably going to be gone the Stn, Monday the Stn
Karr/ The Stn was one of ... I know Terry does not mind if we proceed on the 15/16 1h without him.
Bailey/ Well, I (mumbled) (laughter) ...you can proceed on the (laughter). That's not what I
meant, Terry! (laughter) You should be here!
Dickens/ (mumbled)
Bailey/ Yeah! And I don't know for sure when ... but, yeah. (several talking)
Karr/ It's totally your decision on which ones, or if you'd like to...
Bailey/ That's fine, I mean ... I just wondered, you know, I figured it was everybody traveling,
so...
Mims/ Looks fine to me!
Champion/ Good to me.
Wright/ Yeah.
Karr/ What about September, October, November, December? As much as anyone knows at the
present time? (several responding)
Champion/ Um, well, the only problem I have with December is the 19th and 20th. I mean, that is
a crazy week for retail anyway. And...
Dickens/ It's a little late, cause we're open (both talking)
Champion/ Yeah, it's very difficult.
Karr/ Do you wish to go down to, uh, just the 5th and Oh and do our best with that, and if we need
a special meeting call it?
Champion/ That'd be fine with me, but I think Terry and I probably won't make it... on the 19th
and 20tH
Karr/ Should we just... should we do the...
Hayek/ Go with one meeting in December?
Bailey/ We always do ... it always comes down to the, I mean, we always...
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Karr/ I could move the 12 /131H but we've got that strategic plan preliminary set for the 5tH. We
could move that to the 12th as well, but I'm not sure closer to the holiday ... for retail it's
helping your issues at all.
Champion/ Yeah, and I already have (mumbled)
Karr/ So shall we leave 5 and 6 and do our very best to work with that ... as a staff, and if we need
a special meeting we'll come back to you, we'll revisit the December schedule?
Hayek/ Sure! Okay? Any other ... input as to meetings?
Karr/ What I don't have on here, now that I'm thinking about it, is I don't have ... and I'll have to
take a look, um, orientation for, uh, joint council ... for the new council, the incoming and
the outgoing that we try to do as soon after the election as we can.
Champion/ Right.
Hayek/ Oh, yeah!
Karr/ But I can ... I'll come back to you (mumbled) I'll take a look at the open dates.
Champion/ When is the, uh, election?
Karr/ Uh, November Stn
Champion/ Oh!
Wright/ It says `election day' there! (laughter)
Hayek/ Could you combine that, or won't they be part of the strategic planning?
Karr/ They will be part of the strategic plan, but we need that block of four hours without...
Hayek/ Yeah, okay. Well, why don't you...
Karr/ We'll take a look at see if we can ... okay. I'll come back with a proposal on that.
Hayek/ Anything else? Okay. Why don't we take a break and we'll come back for the formal
meeting in 15 minutes.
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