HomeMy WebLinkAbout2011-10-18 TranscriptionOctober 18, 2011 Iowa City City Council Work Session
Council Present: Bailey, Champion, Dickens, Hayek, Mims, Wilburn, Wright
Staff Present: Markus, Dilkes, Karr, Hennes, Boothroy, Davidson, Bentley, Yapp,
Havel, Helling
Others Present: Graham, UISG
Board of Appeals Bylaws ( #14):
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ITEM 14. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE AMENDED BY -LAWS
OF THE BOARD OF APPEALS.
Hayek/ Okay, well why don't we get started with our work session. Welcome, everyone! First
bullet item is the, uh, bylaw changes, uh, proposed by the Board of Appeals.
Karr/ Mr. Mayor and Council, we put that on to clarify ... that the agenda item, um ... did reflect a
split vote. The resolution itself does reflect all three changes, if... as requested by the
Board of Appeals. Staff is recommending two of the three, and the Rules Committee was
split 1 to I on the third one, as well, the dealing with non - residency appointments. So we
wanted to single that out to allow discussion and to have staff here for questions if
anyone did have them prior to your vote tonight. So to adopt the resolution would be to
adopt all three changes as requested by the Board of Appeals, and ... if you wish to do
anything other than that, you would amend it on the floor.
Hayek/ Okay.
Champion/ Well I was the person who (mumbled) of opening up to non - residents, after three
months, because there is a way to fulfill this.
Hayek/ Was or was not?
Champion/ I'm not in (both talking)
Hayek/ Okay.
Champion/ Period!
Hayek/ Right! (laughter) Couldn't hear you! (several talking and laughing)
Champion/ Uh, because there is a way to fill this position after the three month period by anyone
who applies. Am I correct? So it's not like the position can't be filled in some other
manner. I just object to somebody from out ... that doesn't live in Iowa City making
decisions for this community. If they want to make decisions for this community, I guess
they better move here! That was my philosophy.
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Dickens/ (both talking) my thought was that, uh, a lot of these people that have applied on
businesses within the city, but have choose to live outside the city. So I think they do
have a... a vested interest in Iowa City. I know ... I don't know how many people on our
city staff live within Iowa City, and they're making decisions, and I look at it kind of the
same way that, if this person has a business and owns property in Iowa City that they
should be able to, uh, fulfill this.
Champion/ (mumbled) of your rules going to be that you have to own a business to be an outside
person? Cause that's another rule. That's another part of...
Dickens/ That was the way I looked at it.
Champion/ But that would make another rule. (both talking)
Wright/ I'm sorry (several talking) I have a difficult time with people who are not residents
sitting on a City board, urn ... and of course staff or department heads have to live within
city limits, as well. (several talking) supposed to, I thought. (several talking) So, um...
just because we have not had ready applicants, doesn't ... just doesn't sit well with me to
open it up, um, we could have had, uh ... you know, for the Youth Advisory Commission,
there was somebody from Amanda Clear Creek that wanted to be ... Amanda Clear Creek!
I did it again! Clear Creek Amana! (laughter) ...on the Youth Advisory Commission. It
just doesn't work for me!
Hayek/ So I ... I'm sympathetic to the ... to the notion that someone who owns a business in Iowa
City, you know, is kept from the table, so to speak, uh, but I started thinking about this
and coming up with other examples where, um ... this could lead us to if.. if we adopt
this. I mean, you mentioned the Youth Advisory Commission. If...if a student at West
High lives in North Liberty, he or she is not eligible for our commission, I believe. If a
senior who's a patron to our Senior Center, uh, Senior Center, you know, but lives in
Solon, that person can't serve on our commission, and so if we're going to go down that
road, I think we need to consider it as a policy matter for all of our commissions.
That's... that's what tripped me up on this. I ... I'm, you know, there are plenty of good
people who live outside of Iowa City and own and operate fantastic businesses, but if
we're going to open it up for that, we need to talk about it for everything.
Dickens/ That was my biggest concern, was that, you know, are we losing very good qualified
people that do have a very vested interest in Iowa City if ... that live outside the (both
talking)
Bailey/ ... should have a vested interest in Iowa City! (laughter)
Dickens/ Exactly!
Bailey/ Especially if you do business here, but ... I think the point is well taken and, I mean,
people use our parks and why wouldn't you want to have some input on that? So ... it
would open up the potential.
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Mims/ Agree!
Hayek/ Okay, so ... and, our two staff people on this issue are here. Is there anything you guys
want to add ... Doug or Tim?
Hennes/ (mumbled) debating the issue as it was discussed in the Commission. I think the ... the
example that, uh, Terry used was Brandt Heating has been a long -time business in Iowa
City.
Hayek/ Right.
Hennes/ But now, uh, Mueller Plumbing the same way.
Hayek/ Uh -huh.
Hennes/ Um ... but we would lose; we wouldn't be able to use their expertise, if they were
allowed to be (mumbled). Um... staff isn't recommending that. Um, our proposal was
just to reduce the members and to allow some more flexibility by not requiring the trade
specific, after a certain period of time.
Champion/ But wouldn't it also be true if someone from Mueller Plumbing or Brandt Heating
were on this commission they would not be able to bid on City projects. Isn't that
correct?
Hennes/ That is true, and that's been one of the issues on, uh, maintaining (both talking). That's
been one of the issues (mumbled)
Dickens/ (mumbled) people from...
Hennes/ Pardon?
Dickens/ Well it keeps people from stepping up because (both talking)
Hennes/ It does, yes it does!
Dickens/ Connie, they could competitively bid on City projects.
Champion/ Oh, okay. I thought they couldn't.
Hayek/ Okay, so ... staff s not recommending the third, uh, component. The other two you are.
Hennes/ Yes. Definitely.
Hayek/ And... and... Connie and Terry (several talking) it's just that third piece so...
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Dickens/ We just had to wrestle off that third one (laughter)
Hayek/ So, uh, then someone will need to ... well, if there's sufficient interest to carve out that
third one, there'll have to be a motion on the floor...
Karr/ To amend it.
Hayek/ ... to amend it.
Karr/ By deleting it.
Hayek/ Okay. Okay. Anything else on that item? Okay. Uh, agenda items.
Agenda Items:
ITEM 18. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE BUDGETED
POSITIONS IN THE CABLE TV DIVISION OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE
OFFICES DEPARTMENT AND THE AFSCME AND ADMINISTRATIVE
PAY PLANS BY RECLASSIFYING THE COMMUNITY PROGRAMMER
POSITION, AFSCME GRADE 9, TO MEDIA PRODUCTION SERVICES
COORDINATOR, ADMINISTRATIVE GRADE 26.
Wright/ I've got a question on, um ... #18, the change in the cable TV administrative. It's about a
$5,000 difference in salary and I just wondered where that was being funded.
Helling/ It's just the difference in the range, in the, uh, in the bargain unit range where the
individual is now and they'll be moving into the administrative pay plan.
Wright/ And we've ... we've got significant budget to take that out of the personnel line for that
or...
Helling/ Oh yeah, in ... in the cable budget, yeah!
Champion/ It doesn't come out of our General Fund.
ITEM 9. DETERMINING THE RIVERFRONT CROSSINGS URBAN RENEWAL
AREA OF THE CITY TO HAVE CONDITIONS OF BLIGHT AND THAT
THE REHABILITATION, CONSERVATION, REDEVELOPMENT,
DEVELOPMENT, OR A COMBINATION THEREOF, OF SUCH AREA IS
NECESSARY IN THE INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY
OR WELFARE OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY; DESIGNATING
SUCH AREA AS APPROPRIATE FOR AN URBAN RENEWAL
PROJECT; AND ADOPTING THE RIVERFRONT CROSSINGS URBAN
RENEWAL PLAN THEREFORE.
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Mims/ Um, #9 on the, uh, memo on the urban renewal district for Riverfront Crossings.
Urn ... just appears to me in the actual memo that, uh, maybe there's a little bit of a
recreation of a former document. The, it refers to Riverfront Crossings but the majority
of the text of the document refers to Towncrest.
Davidson/ That must have slipped through on a previous addition! (laughter) (several talking)
Thank you for noting that, Susan. Obviously none of us did. Yes, this pertains to the
Riverfront Crossings district which is basically the Riverside Drive area.
Mims/ I got a little confused as I started reading. I started seeing Towncrest in there. It was
like...
Davidson/ Yeah!
Mims/ I think it was just a previous addition that didn't get...
Davidson/ It was!
Mims/ ... fully edited.
Davidson/ Thank you for noting that. Apologize for the mistake!
ITEM 17. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT AND
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO
ATTEST A CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE WATER
WORKS PRAIRIE PARK FLOOD MITIGATION IMPROVEMENTS
PROJECT.
Karr/ Mr. Mayor, staff is recommending and asking that you defer til November 1St, your next
meeting, item #17, the award of contract on the Water Works Prairie Park, to allow State
review of the application.
Hayek/#17?
Karr/ # 17.
Hayek/ Til November 1 St?
Karr/ Til November 1 st, please.
Hayek/ Okay, so we'll need a motion on that.
Karr/ Thank you.
Hayek/ Other agenda items?
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ITEM 4. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED OR AMENDED.
e) Correspondence:
10. Steve Smith; James & LeAnne Dreier: Increased vandalism &
problems in the north end
Bailey/ I had a question on 4.e) 10., the letter ... let's see, increased vandalism and problems from,
um (mumbled). When the 21- ordinance initially passed, we heard that we were doing
increased police patrols in the neighborhoods. Is that continuing, because it has been
quite noisy, and as I was explaining it to somebody, it seems, um, it's a difficult kind of
noise. It's just...it's groups of people in the neighborhoods, kind of looking for parties.
Markus/ Right.
Bailey/ And so that's a difficult thing to call in, so patrolling and... and um, presence would
probably help, may help, address some of that. I don't think neighbors on the northside
are shy about calling in disturbances. So I'm just wondering (both talking)
Markus/ ...there is increased patrol, and it is supposed to be continuing. Uh, one of your fellow
Councilors asked that very question and I posed it to the Chief and he indicated...
Bailey/ Okay.
Markus/ ... stepping up patrols.
Champion/ It's even become a problem in our neighborhood, Regenia, but not as much.
Bailey/ Pardon me?
Champion/ It's a problem also in our neighborhood.
Bailey/ Well...
Champion/ People walking up and down the street looking for parties.
Bailey/ Yeah.
Champion/ But it's not as much of a problem.
Bailey/ Well, and there's a particular house and I think they're very close to this particular
house.... particular house in our neighborhood that ... that I think is a ... a frat annex and
it's very active and so ... it would help a little bit.
Wright/ Van Buren is getting the worst of it (mumbled)
Champion/ Which end of Van Buren?
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Bailey/ The north.
Wright/ North...
Bailey/ I mean, the 400, 500, 600, 700 blocks.
Wright/ Yeah.
Bailey/ I mean, that's... that's kind of party -row central, from one to another, is what I hear. So,
okay, thank you!
Mims/ Regenia, from what you've heard from people, if you've heard more than what we have,
is there ... is it worse on the weekends or are they getting it all through the week?
Bailey/ Well, I mean, weekends, you know, starting Thursday night of course, um ... yeah, I
mean, it is. It's weekends and ... think there was also an ambulance call to t his, uh, house
in the neighborhood for a party, with the late start of the football game on Saturday. I
wasn't around, but yeah. So...
Wright/ The worst of it's Friday night and Saturday (several talking) and especially...
Mims/ That's what I assumed in terms of...
Bailey/ Well, Thursday's, yeah...
Wright/ Thursday's when it...it starts a little bit. I think this past weekend was worse because of
the late game.
Bailey/ Yeah, I do too! And, I know that it's... it's ... I mean, it's a matter of having enough
people, but I mean I think that we have got to continue our commitment to the
neighborhoods. Connie's neighborhood, the northside, because ... the intent was not to
move it.
Champion/ Right.
Bailey/ The intent was to address it, and so...
Markus/ There should be adequate staff as they, uh, our police are not actively, as I understand it,
involved in the, uh, inside of the stadium itself. There should be staff to serve that ... that
concern, in the neighborhood.
Bailey/ Well...
Hayek/ I also think some of the neighborhood groups are more proactive than others in terms of
encouraging, uh, utilization of the nuisance ordinance. And uh, perhaps we could
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reiterate that message to the neighborhood groups. That we've got something in place; it
has shown to work. Been shown to work, um...
Bailey/ Well most people will call at any time, you know, if it's 4:00 in the afternoon and the
noise is ... is difficult, people will call, but it's ... it's the looking for the parties that I think
becomes problematic. Cause that's a harder thing to call in.
Hayek/ Uh -huh.
Bailey/ Cause you can't (both talking)
Markus/ ...bring it up to the Chief's attention again tomorrow.
Bailey/ Thank you.
Hayek/ Thanks!
Dickens/ Weather should help a little bit, but still, they're still looking for parties when it's cold
out.
Bailey/ Just faster hopefully!
ITEM 4. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED OR AMENDED.
e) Correspondence:
8. Paula Swygard; Mark Cannon: Hwy. 1 Trail and Sidewalks
Project - Miller- Orchard Neighborhood
Hayek/ There's a letter at, um, 4.8., on the Miller Orchard sidewalk project. Um, I can't
remember ... I can't recall where exactly we are in this process, um ... but could somebody
answer the question about 5 -foot versus 8 -foot sidewalks. That appears to be the
question raised in this letter, and I've heard that from other residents.
Davidson/ Yeah, I'm sorry, Matt. Can you paraphrase what the ... the question is for us?
Hayek/ Uh ... (both talking) I believe we're using 8 -foot sidewalks on ... on one side.
Davidson/ A highway and on one side of Orchard.
Hayek/ On one side of Orchard, and I ... the concern ... what I've heard is, you know, why 8 -foot
sidewalks on Orchard. Couldn't we use something a little narrower?
Davidson/ Yeah, I think the notion there was, uh, that it was on the one side only, so that you
would have two -way traffic rather than traffic on each side and ... and that's kind of the
minimum standard for a two -way traffic type sidewalk, and an issue ... one question that
came up at the neighborhood meeting that was ... it was indicated that in terms of the
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snow removal ordinance, and um, Doug's here so correct me if I'm wrong, but that
generally if a person clears the at least the 4 -foot width, they generally will not be, uh,
cited for not having it ... basically they ... they need to, uh, clear the 4 -foot width, is that
accurate, Doug? (unable to hear person away from mic)
Yapp/ Actually for these sidewalks, we've been requiring the full 8 -feet.
Davidson/ Okay, well that ... that may need to be clarified, because I'm not sure that was given
accurately at the meeting.
Hayek/ Yeah.
Mims/ That's a lot of sidewalk!
Champion/ That's a lot of sidewalk! (several talking) I don't, I mean, I would be upset if I had
to start shoveling 8 -feet of sidewalk when I never had one before. And some of those
people are elderly!
Markus/ I am familiar with places that require a path to be shoveled, uh, not necessarily full
dimension of even a 5 -foot sidewalk, so ... most people I think go out, clear the full path,
but I would agree that 8 -feet is...
Mims/ That's excessive!
Markus/ ...maybe if you just defer, or referred that to staff we could have that discussion (both
talking)
Davidson/ ...when we have the discussion at the November 1St meeting one of the things we
want you to do is indicate if you'd like any changes in those widths, the other request
that's been made is to reduce the, uh, Miller, Hudson, I guess it's Miller and Hudson
sidewalks from 5 -feet to 4 -feet so we would like you to basically direct us. Now's the
time to direct us on that, as well, at the November 1 meeting.
Mims/ Okay.
Hayek/ And the rationale again behind, uh, doing it only on one side of the street, versus the
other on, I think it's Orchard? Do you recall? And I forget what's on the other side.
Yapp/ The other side has a number of commercial driveways and not as much right -of -way.
Hayek/ Okay, that makes sense.
Dilkes/ It's my understanding that this is going to be scheduled for your November 1St (both
talking)
Hayek/ So let's not get into issues (both talking)
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Dilkes/ ...probably it's a good ... idea (both talking)
Hayek/ Well we'll have questions about sidewalks.
Davidson/ Yeah, and we'll notify the neighborhood association that that's been scheduled for
November 1St
Hayek/ Got it! Okay.
Champion/ And just clarify for me so I don't have to go out and measure. What's the width of
my sidewalk in my whole neighborhood? (laughter)
Boothroy/ Probably 4 -feet, yeah.
Champion/ Okay.
ITEM 4. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED OR AMENDED.
e) Correspondence:
9. James Surratt: Traffic Light
Mims/ While we're on, uh ... um, correspondence, urn ... trying to find the number. The traffic
light, number, uh ... 4.e)9. Is ... is that an accurate portrayal of what happens with that
light on Boyrum and 6, that the camera is not picking up certain color vehicles, cause I
know...
Yapp/ During ... yes, there's some accuracy to that, uh, during wintertime, uh, and when
the ... when the sun shines ... is shining directly into the video. We use video detection for
the traffic signals.
Mims/ Uh -huh.
Yapp/ So when the sun does shine directly into the camera, and also during snow events, uh, the
cameras do have trouble picking up white vehicles. Um, and the concern is that the buses
are ... are white or light gray on the top and, uh, our Transit Department is looking into
changes that would assist in the detection...
Mims/ Just get up on top with a spray can of red paint and put a red bull's eye on top! (laughter)
Well, I've sat at that Boyrum intersection coming from, past the Burger King and
wanting to go straight across, and sat and sat and ... you can get very, very frustrated
sitting there, so if there's any other ... as he said at the end of his letter, any other ideas or
suggestions, I think that would be appropriate to look at. I understand money but...
Champion/ Don't buy white cars! (laughter)
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Mims/ Mine's gray! (several talking)
Hayek/ Thanks, John. Any other... other agenda items?
Champion/ That's too bad!
Information Packets (10/6 and 10/13):
Hayek/ Going once, going twice ... okay. Info packets. October 6th, the first one. Anything on
that? Okay. Uh ... info packet from October 13th. Tom, can you talk to us about Court
Street, where we are.
Markus/ Actually, uh, I just spoke with John about that and John can give you kind of the update
about what happened with, uh, neighborhood meetings because it is a little different than
I think when this Council last spoke about that issue. It has changed somewhat.
Yapp/ Um, we did start the formal traffic calming process with, uh, Court Street residents
between Summit Street and Muscatine Avenue. Uh, held a neighborhood meeting a
couple weeks ago, uh, in this room, uh, and about 20 residents attended, which is pretty
good attendance for one of these meetings. Uh, a majority of the, uh, people at the
meeting did not want to, uh, consider on- street parking on both sides of street. Uh, but
did want to consider physical traffic calming changes, uh, to the street. Their number one
request, well, their number one request was to convert the street to a brick street
(laughter) um, but we did explain that that would have to be a... a fairly large capital
project. Um, but beyond that, the number one request was, uh, speed humps or curb
bump -outs, uh, we explained that we as staff could not recommend speed humps in this
case because they are concerned that it would divert traffic, uh, to other nearby streets in
the Longfellow Neighborhood. Um, but that we are considering curb bump -outs and
what are called chokers, which are essentially curb bump -outs mid - block, but not at
intersections. Um, so at this point in the process our next step is to develop preliminary
designs and cost estimates with the Engineering Department. Um, and then ultimately
conduct a more formal neighborhood survey, uh, which re ... which requires a 60%
approval before we would bring the project to Council for consideration.
Champion/ When you're talking about bump -outs, what actually are those? They're not what we
put on that one street, that was a disaster! (mumbled) ...what they were called?
Yapp/ Oh, on Highland Avenue, years ago?
Champion/ Yes!
Yapp/ No, they're not ... they're not that, no. (laughter and several talking) Chicanes are, uh,
where traffic is forced to drive in ... in a slalom... fashion, moving from one side of the
street to the other. No, curb bump -outs are similar to what's on Market Street.
Champion/ Okay.
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Yapp/ Where there's a ... a bump -out at the intersection, which shortens the distance pedestrians
have to cross the street, um, and defines the on- street parking bay. Uh, which there is on-
street parking on the one side of Court Street right now. One of the issues we're looking
at is the storm sewer intakes and ... and where driveways are located and ... and physical
issues like that.
Dickens/ And you said nothing at the intersections. It'd be mid?
Yapp/ Uh, we're looking at (both talking)
Dickens/ ...concern that I got. Someone called me and said, you know, it's hard enough and
when you get up to Summit Street there, if you narrow that, people turning on to Court
Street, that makes it very tough to make that turn, if you're going to squeeze it any
tight... so it might cause people to use a different way if they have trouble getting around
that corner so you're talking mid -block more than...
Yapp/ We're looking at both, in the, uh, in the initial evaluation. But, turning movements is also
a concern that we've had from the School District, for the ... for the buses.
Hayek/ Would this come out of our traffic calming budget or would this be a ... okay.
Yapp/ Yeah, our intent is it would ... this would come out of the existing traffic calming budget.
Hayek/ Okay. Well, I guess we'll get a sense of cost. You know, what we had talked about
before ... and I want to do something and ... and it looks like we will, I mean, that's... that's
positive, you know, could take a while to get to ... the kind of options you're talking
about, what we had discussed a few ... a couple months ago, whenever that was,
with ... with the neighborhood was ... an interim measure maybe involving double -sided
parking, and ... which would certainly be a more cost - effective approach.
Yapp/ Certainly!
Hayek/ So ... that ... that's what caught my attention when I read this, that that option was absent
from the list. But I see why. They don't want it.
Markus/ Well, let me just comment. I think part of the way the policy is set up, uh, I think you
kind of drive people to those options because we pay for all of it. And, I'm not
suggesting that there be a cost - sharing, but it seems like if there are less expensive
options, that maybe we have to have some sort of waiting criteria built in to this so that
we don't drive people, no pun intended, right to, uh, chokers or bulb -outs or some more
expensive option.
Hayek/ Yeah.
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Markus/ Because I think there are other options that may have worked in this particular case.
Less expensive options.
Hayek/ Well, we'll have a chance to discuss that when we ... get the information back from staff,
I would have to think. Okay.
Yapp/ We'd be happy to reach out again, with the on- street parking option, but at the meeting
that was not something the residents were interested in.
Bailey/ Even if it came sooner, I mean, even if they got traffic calming more quickly?
Yapp/ That's... that's correct. We ... we did indicate that that could be done fairly quickly. I
mean, essentially it's removing signs (both talking)
Bailey/ ...would be my question.
Yapp/ I'm sorry?
Bailey/ How concerned are they really?
Hayek/ Well, I think one thing we'll want to note when we forward is, you know, what's the
realistic timeframe to fund and install the bump -outs?
Yapp/ Oh, it will be spring.
Hayek/ Oh, that soon? If... okay.
Yapp/ Spring, early summer. Next ... next construction season.
Hayek/ Yeah. Okay.
Wilburn/ (several talking) ...presumption that they hit the 60% mark (several talking)
(male)/ Correct, yes.
Mims/ What was the, did they indicate their reason for not wanting both side, parking on both
sides of the street?
Yapp/ Um ... yes. They already have concerns with too many people using the street as street
storage. Due to the, uh, nearby multi - family and sorority buildings. And, did not want
more of that.
Bailey/ We can address that. (several talking)
Wright/ ...easy to address.
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Bailey/ Yes!
Wright/ Discussion with folks, you know, there's a 48 -hour limit that...
Champion/ The other thing though is that if you drive down Court Street, the parking from
Summit to kind of that alley by that apartment complex is filled, but there's never any
problems parking on Court Street. So, I think that would have happened already if it's
going to happen. There's tons of parking on Court Street, once you get past that
commercial apartment. I don't ... I've never seen... seen that full. But, I don't know.
Markus/ We haven't priced these out yet, John?
Yapp/ No, we haven't. No.
Hayek/ Well, we'll have a better sense when that occurs, and continue the conversation. Okay,
anything else on that item? Thanks, John. Anything else on the info packet for October
13th?
Karr / KXIC radio show. IP6. For November.
Hayek/ I can do that first one I think.
Karr/ The 2nd?
Mims/ I can do the 16tH
Karr/ Thank you. IP6. So we have the 9th, the 23rd, and the 30th.
Dickens/ I can do the 9tH
Karr/ Thank you.
Champion/ I can do any of `em. I mean, whatever one we need. Are they all filled already?
Wright/ 30tH
Karr/ 30th? Uh, 23 rd, ll be Connie. And the 30tn'11 be Mike. Thank you. I'll firm it up in a
memo.
Hayek/ Okay.
Karr/ Thanks.
Hayek/ Thanks, Marian. Uh, pending work session issues? It's the next item. Anything on that?
Pending Work Session Issues (02):
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Champion/ One of the ... when we discussed the, um, alcohol recommendations from that
committee, that you're on ... (mumbled) (several talking)
Hayek/ ...Partnership.
Champion/ Partnership ... a question that I would like answered, if we don't have it now, uh,
is ... when we talk, if we talk about that, the exemption has to maintain a certain PAULA
rate, like we do the music venues, uh, is that going to include statistics from the Iowa
City Police and the Campus Police? That's just ... it wasn't clear to me.
Upcoming Events / Council Invites:
Hayek/ Okay. Fair question. Okay. Uh, moving on, upcoming events, Council invites? I'll be
in Des Moines on Monday for this, uh, passenger rail event that, uh, Greater Des Moines
Alliance or one of the umbrella Chamber groups is putting on, uh, for passenger rail, and
they're bringing in a State senator from Michigan. They're bringing in the Mayor of
Normal, Illinois, which has an Amtrak, uh, station and a college, um ... and other people
to ... to talk about this, but ... Des Moines is, uh, really picking up a lot of slack on ... on
this issue and being (several talking) yeah, they're advocating pretty aggressively, so I'll
do that on Monday morning. (several commenting) Anything else? Okay. Well, we've
got a nice little break here. I'll see you back in half an hour.
This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work
session of October 18, 2011.