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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2011-10-18 TranscriptionOctober 18, 2011 Iowa City City Council Work Session Council Present: Bailey, Champion, Dickens, Hayek, Mims, Wilburn, Wright Staff Present: Markus, Dilkes, Karr, Hennes, Boothroy, Davidson, Bentley, Yapp, Havel, Helling Others Present: Graham, UISG Board of Appeals Bylaws ( #14): Page I ITEM 14. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE AMENDED BY -LAWS OF THE BOARD OF APPEALS. Hayek/ Okay, well why don't we get started with our work session. Welcome, everyone! First bullet item is the, uh, bylaw changes, uh, proposed by the Board of Appeals. Karr/ Mr. Mayor and Council, we put that on to clarify ... that the agenda item, um ... did reflect a split vote. The resolution itself does reflect all three changes, if... as requested by the Board of Appeals. Staff is recommending two of the three, and the Rules Committee was split 1 to I on the third one, as well, the dealing with non - residency appointments. So we wanted to single that out to allow discussion and to have staff here for questions if anyone did have them prior to your vote tonight. So to adopt the resolution would be to adopt all three changes as requested by the Board of Appeals, and ... if you wish to do anything other than that, you would amend it on the floor. Hayek/ Okay. Champion/ Well I was the person who (mumbled) of opening up to non - residents, after three months, because there is a way to fulfill this. Hayek/ Was or was not? Champion/ I'm not in (both talking) Hayek/ Okay. Champion/ Period! Hayek/ Right! (laughter) Couldn't hear you! (several talking and laughing) Champion/ Uh, because there is a way to fill this position after the three month period by anyone who applies. Am I correct? So it's not like the position can't be filled in some other manner. I just object to somebody from out ... that doesn't live in Iowa City making decisions for this community. If they want to make decisions for this community, I guess they better move here! That was my philosophy. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of October 18, 2011. October 18, 2011 Iowa City City Council Work Session Page 2 Dickens/ (both talking) my thought was that, uh, a lot of these people that have applied on businesses within the city, but have choose to live outside the city. So I think they do have a... a vested interest in Iowa City. I know ... I don't know how many people on our city staff live within Iowa City, and they're making decisions, and I look at it kind of the same way that, if this person has a business and owns property in Iowa City that they should be able to, uh, fulfill this. Champion/ (mumbled) of your rules going to be that you have to own a business to be an outside person? Cause that's another rule. That's another part of... Dickens/ That was the way I looked at it. Champion/ But that would make another rule. (both talking) Wright/ I'm sorry (several talking) I have a difficult time with people who are not residents sitting on a City board, urn ... and of course staff or department heads have to live within city limits, as well. (several talking) supposed to, I thought. (several talking) So, um... just because we have not had ready applicants, doesn't ... just doesn't sit well with me to open it up, um, we could have had, uh ... you know, for the Youth Advisory Commission, there was somebody from Amanda Clear Creek that wanted to be ... Amanda Clear Creek! I did it again! Clear Creek Amana! (laughter) ...on the Youth Advisory Commission. It just doesn't work for me! Hayek/ So I ... I'm sympathetic to the ... to the notion that someone who owns a business in Iowa City, you know, is kept from the table, so to speak, uh, but I started thinking about this and coming up with other examples where, um ... this could lead us to if.. if we adopt this. I mean, you mentioned the Youth Advisory Commission. If...if a student at West High lives in North Liberty, he or she is not eligible for our commission, I believe. If a senior who's a patron to our Senior Center, uh, Senior Center, you know, but lives in Solon, that person can't serve on our commission, and so if we're going to go down that road, I think we need to consider it as a policy matter for all of our commissions. That's... that's what tripped me up on this. I ... I'm, you know, there are plenty of good people who live outside of Iowa City and own and operate fantastic businesses, but if we're going to open it up for that, we need to talk about it for everything. Dickens/ That was my biggest concern, was that, you know, are we losing very good qualified people that do have a very vested interest in Iowa City if ... that live outside the (both talking) Bailey/ ... should have a vested interest in Iowa City! (laughter) Dickens/ Exactly! Bailey/ Especially if you do business here, but ... I think the point is well taken and, I mean, people use our parks and why wouldn't you want to have some input on that? So ... it would open up the potential. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of October 18, 2011. October 18, 2011 Iowa City City Council Work Session Page 3 Mims/ Agree! Hayek/ Okay, so ... and, our two staff people on this issue are here. Is there anything you guys want to add ... Doug or Tim? Hennes/ (mumbled) debating the issue as it was discussed in the Commission. I think the ... the example that, uh, Terry used was Brandt Heating has been a long -time business in Iowa City. Hayek/ Right. Hennes/ But now, uh, Mueller Plumbing the same way. Hayek/ Uh -huh. Hennes/ Um ... but we would lose; we wouldn't be able to use their expertise, if they were allowed to be (mumbled). Um... staff isn't recommending that. Um, our proposal was just to reduce the members and to allow some more flexibility by not requiring the trade specific, after a certain period of time. Champion/ But wouldn't it also be true if someone from Mueller Plumbing or Brandt Heating were on this commission they would not be able to bid on City projects. Isn't that correct? Hennes/ That is true, and that's been one of the issues on, uh, maintaining (both talking). That's been one of the issues (mumbled) Dickens/ (mumbled) people from... Hennes/ Pardon? Dickens/ Well it keeps people from stepping up because (both talking) Hennes/ It does, yes it does! Dickens/ Connie, they could competitively bid on City projects. Champion/ Oh, okay. I thought they couldn't. Hayek/ Okay, so ... staff s not recommending the third, uh, component. The other two you are. Hennes/ Yes. Definitely. Hayek/ And... and... Connie and Terry (several talking) it's just that third piece so... This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of October 18, 2011. October 18, 2011 Iowa City City Council Work Session Page 4 Dickens/ We just had to wrestle off that third one (laughter) Hayek/ So, uh, then someone will need to ... well, if there's sufficient interest to carve out that third one, there'll have to be a motion on the floor... Karr/ To amend it. Hayek/ ... to amend it. Karr/ By deleting it. Hayek/ Okay. Okay. Anything else on that item? Okay. Uh, agenda items. Agenda Items: ITEM 18. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE BUDGETED POSITIONS IN THE CABLE TV DIVISION OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES DEPARTMENT AND THE AFSCME AND ADMINISTRATIVE PAY PLANS BY RECLASSIFYING THE COMMUNITY PROGRAMMER POSITION, AFSCME GRADE 9, TO MEDIA PRODUCTION SERVICES COORDINATOR, ADMINISTRATIVE GRADE 26. Wright/ I've got a question on, um ... #18, the change in the cable TV administrative. It's about a $5,000 difference in salary and I just wondered where that was being funded. Helling/ It's just the difference in the range, in the, uh, in the bargain unit range where the individual is now and they'll be moving into the administrative pay plan. Wright/ And we've ... we've got significant budget to take that out of the personnel line for that or... Helling/ Oh yeah, in ... in the cable budget, yeah! Champion/ It doesn't come out of our General Fund. ITEM 9. DETERMINING THE RIVERFRONT CROSSINGS URBAN RENEWAL AREA OF THE CITY TO HAVE CONDITIONS OF BLIGHT AND THAT THE REHABILITATION, CONSERVATION, REDEVELOPMENT, DEVELOPMENT, OR A COMBINATION THEREOF, OF SUCH AREA IS NECESSARY IN THE INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY; DESIGNATING SUCH AREA AS APPROPRIATE FOR AN URBAN RENEWAL PROJECT; AND ADOPTING THE RIVERFRONT CROSSINGS URBAN RENEWAL PLAN THEREFORE. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of October 18, 2011. October 18, 2011 Iowa City City Council Work Session Page 5 Mims/ Um, #9 on the, uh, memo on the urban renewal district for Riverfront Crossings. Urn ... just appears to me in the actual memo that, uh, maybe there's a little bit of a recreation of a former document. The, it refers to Riverfront Crossings but the majority of the text of the document refers to Towncrest. Davidson/ That must have slipped through on a previous addition! (laughter) (several talking) Thank you for noting that, Susan. Obviously none of us did. Yes, this pertains to the Riverfront Crossings district which is basically the Riverside Drive area. Mims/ I got a little confused as I started reading. I started seeing Towncrest in there. It was like... Davidson/ Yeah! Mims/ I think it was just a previous addition that didn't get... Davidson/ It was! Mims/ ... fully edited. Davidson/ Thank you for noting that. Apologize for the mistake! ITEM 17. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AWARDING CONTRACT AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST A CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE WATER WORKS PRAIRIE PARK FLOOD MITIGATION IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT. Karr/ Mr. Mayor, staff is recommending and asking that you defer til November 1St, your next meeting, item #17, the award of contract on the Water Works Prairie Park, to allow State review of the application. Hayek/#17? Karr/ # 17. Hayek/ Til November 1 St? Karr/ Til November 1 st, please. Hayek/ Okay, so we'll need a motion on that. Karr/ Thank you. Hayek/ Other agenda items? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of October 18, 2011. October 18, 2011 Iowa City City Council Work Session Page 6 ITEM 4. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED OR AMENDED. e) Correspondence: 10. Steve Smith; James & LeAnne Dreier: Increased vandalism & problems in the north end Bailey/ I had a question on 4.e) 10., the letter ... let's see, increased vandalism and problems from, um (mumbled). When the 21- ordinance initially passed, we heard that we were doing increased police patrols in the neighborhoods. Is that continuing, because it has been quite noisy, and as I was explaining it to somebody, it seems, um, it's a difficult kind of noise. It's just...it's groups of people in the neighborhoods, kind of looking for parties. Markus/ Right. Bailey/ And so that's a difficult thing to call in, so patrolling and... and um, presence would probably help, may help, address some of that. I don't think neighbors on the northside are shy about calling in disturbances. So I'm just wondering (both talking) Markus/ ...there is increased patrol, and it is supposed to be continuing. Uh, one of your fellow Councilors asked that very question and I posed it to the Chief and he indicated... Bailey/ Okay. Markus/ ... stepping up patrols. Champion/ It's even become a problem in our neighborhood, Regenia, but not as much. Bailey/ Pardon me? Champion/ It's a problem also in our neighborhood. Bailey/ Well... Champion/ People walking up and down the street looking for parties. Bailey/ Yeah. Champion/ But it's not as much of a problem. Bailey/ Well, and there's a particular house and I think they're very close to this particular house.... particular house in our neighborhood that ... that I think is a ... a frat annex and it's very active and so ... it would help a little bit. Wright/ Van Buren is getting the worst of it (mumbled) Champion/ Which end of Van Buren? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of October 18, 2011. October 18, 2011 Iowa City City Council Work Session Page 7 Bailey/ The north. Wright/ North... Bailey/ I mean, the 400, 500, 600, 700 blocks. Wright/ Yeah. Bailey/ I mean, that's... that's kind of party -row central, from one to another, is what I hear. So, okay, thank you! Mims/ Regenia, from what you've heard from people, if you've heard more than what we have, is there ... is it worse on the weekends or are they getting it all through the week? Bailey/ Well, I mean, weekends, you know, starting Thursday night of course, um ... yeah, I mean, it is. It's weekends and ... think there was also an ambulance call to t his, uh, house in the neighborhood for a party, with the late start of the football game on Saturday. I wasn't around, but yeah. So... Wright/ The worst of it's Friday night and Saturday (several talking) and especially... Mims/ That's what I assumed in terms of... Bailey/ Well, Thursday's, yeah... Wright/ Thursday's when it...it starts a little bit. I think this past weekend was worse because of the late game. Bailey/ Yeah, I do too! And, I know that it's... it's ... I mean, it's a matter of having enough people, but I mean I think that we have got to continue our commitment to the neighborhoods. Connie's neighborhood, the northside, because ... the intent was not to move it. Champion/ Right. Bailey/ The intent was to address it, and so... Markus/ There should be adequate staff as they, uh, our police are not actively, as I understand it, involved in the, uh, inside of the stadium itself. There should be staff to serve that ... that concern, in the neighborhood. Bailey/ Well... Hayek/ I also think some of the neighborhood groups are more proactive than others in terms of encouraging, uh, utilization of the nuisance ordinance. And uh, perhaps we could This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of October 18, 2011. October 18, 2011 Iowa City City Council Work Session Page 8 reiterate that message to the neighborhood groups. That we've got something in place; it has shown to work. Been shown to work, um... Bailey/ Well most people will call at any time, you know, if it's 4:00 in the afternoon and the noise is ... is difficult, people will call, but it's ... it's the looking for the parties that I think becomes problematic. Cause that's a harder thing to call in. Hayek/ Uh -huh. Bailey/ Cause you can't (both talking) Markus/ ...bring it up to the Chief's attention again tomorrow. Bailey/ Thank you. Hayek/ Thanks! Dickens/ Weather should help a little bit, but still, they're still looking for parties when it's cold out. Bailey/ Just faster hopefully! ITEM 4. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED OR AMENDED. e) Correspondence: 8. Paula Swygard; Mark Cannon: Hwy. 1 Trail and Sidewalks Project - Miller- Orchard Neighborhood Hayek/ There's a letter at, um, 4.8., on the Miller Orchard sidewalk project. Um, I can't remember ... I can't recall where exactly we are in this process, um ... but could somebody answer the question about 5 -foot versus 8 -foot sidewalks. That appears to be the question raised in this letter, and I've heard that from other residents. Davidson/ Yeah, I'm sorry, Matt. Can you paraphrase what the ... the question is for us? Hayek/ Uh ... (both talking) I believe we're using 8 -foot sidewalks on ... on one side. Davidson/ A highway and on one side of Orchard. Hayek/ On one side of Orchard, and I ... the concern ... what I've heard is, you know, why 8 -foot sidewalks on Orchard. Couldn't we use something a little narrower? Davidson/ Yeah, I think the notion there was, uh, that it was on the one side only, so that you would have two -way traffic rather than traffic on each side and ... and that's kind of the minimum standard for a two -way traffic type sidewalk, and an issue ... one question that came up at the neighborhood meeting that was ... it was indicated that in terms of the This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of October 18, 2011. October 18, 2011 Iowa City City Council Work Session Page 9 snow removal ordinance, and um, Doug's here so correct me if I'm wrong, but that generally if a person clears the at least the 4 -foot width, they generally will not be, uh, cited for not having it ... basically they ... they need to, uh, clear the 4 -foot width, is that accurate, Doug? (unable to hear person away from mic) Yapp/ Actually for these sidewalks, we've been requiring the full 8 -feet. Davidson/ Okay, well that ... that may need to be clarified, because I'm not sure that was given accurately at the meeting. Hayek/ Yeah. Mims/ That's a lot of sidewalk! Champion/ That's a lot of sidewalk! (several talking) I don't, I mean, I would be upset if I had to start shoveling 8 -feet of sidewalk when I never had one before. And some of those people are elderly! Markus/ I am familiar with places that require a path to be shoveled, uh, not necessarily full dimension of even a 5 -foot sidewalk, so ... most people I think go out, clear the full path, but I would agree that 8 -feet is... Mims/ That's excessive! Markus/ ...maybe if you just defer, or referred that to staff we could have that discussion (both talking) Davidson/ ...when we have the discussion at the November 1St meeting one of the things we want you to do is indicate if you'd like any changes in those widths, the other request that's been made is to reduce the, uh, Miller, Hudson, I guess it's Miller and Hudson sidewalks from 5 -feet to 4 -feet so we would like you to basically direct us. Now's the time to direct us on that, as well, at the November 1 meeting. Mims/ Okay. Hayek/ And the rationale again behind, uh, doing it only on one side of the street, versus the other on, I think it's Orchard? Do you recall? And I forget what's on the other side. Yapp/ The other side has a number of commercial driveways and not as much right -of -way. Hayek/ Okay, that makes sense. Dilkes/ It's my understanding that this is going to be scheduled for your November 1St (both talking) Hayek/ So let's not get into issues (both talking) This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of October 18, 2011. October 18, 2011 Iowa City City Council Work Session Page 10 Dilkes/ ...probably it's a good ... idea (both talking) Hayek/ Well we'll have questions about sidewalks. Davidson/ Yeah, and we'll notify the neighborhood association that that's been scheduled for November 1St Hayek/ Got it! Okay. Champion/ And just clarify for me so I don't have to go out and measure. What's the width of my sidewalk in my whole neighborhood? (laughter) Boothroy/ Probably 4 -feet, yeah. Champion/ Okay. ITEM 4. CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED OR AMENDED. e) Correspondence: 9. James Surratt: Traffic Light Mims/ While we're on, uh ... um, correspondence, urn ... trying to find the number. The traffic light, number, uh ... 4.e)9. Is ... is that an accurate portrayal of what happens with that light on Boyrum and 6, that the camera is not picking up certain color vehicles, cause I know... Yapp/ During ... yes, there's some accuracy to that, uh, during wintertime, uh, and when the ... when the sun shines ... is shining directly into the video. We use video detection for the traffic signals. Mims/ Uh -huh. Yapp/ So when the sun does shine directly into the camera, and also during snow events, uh, the cameras do have trouble picking up white vehicles. Um, and the concern is that the buses are ... are white or light gray on the top and, uh, our Transit Department is looking into changes that would assist in the detection... Mims/ Just get up on top with a spray can of red paint and put a red bull's eye on top! (laughter) Well, I've sat at that Boyrum intersection coming from, past the Burger King and wanting to go straight across, and sat and sat and ... you can get very, very frustrated sitting there, so if there's any other ... as he said at the end of his letter, any other ideas or suggestions, I think that would be appropriate to look at. I understand money but... Champion/ Don't buy white cars! (laughter) This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of October 18, 2011. October 18, 2011 Iowa City City Council Work Session Page I 1 Mims/ Mine's gray! (several talking) Hayek/ Thanks, John. Any other... other agenda items? Champion/ That's too bad! Information Packets (10/6 and 10/13): Hayek/ Going once, going twice ... okay. Info packets. October 6th, the first one. Anything on that? Okay. Uh ... info packet from October 13th. Tom, can you talk to us about Court Street, where we are. Markus/ Actually, uh, I just spoke with John about that and John can give you kind of the update about what happened with, uh, neighborhood meetings because it is a little different than I think when this Council last spoke about that issue. It has changed somewhat. Yapp/ Um, we did start the formal traffic calming process with, uh, Court Street residents between Summit Street and Muscatine Avenue. Uh, held a neighborhood meeting a couple weeks ago, uh, in this room, uh, and about 20 residents attended, which is pretty good attendance for one of these meetings. Uh, a majority of the, uh, people at the meeting did not want to, uh, consider on- street parking on both sides of street. Uh, but did want to consider physical traffic calming changes, uh, to the street. Their number one request, well, their number one request was to convert the street to a brick street (laughter) um, but we did explain that that would have to be a... a fairly large capital project. Um, but beyond that, the number one request was, uh, speed humps or curb bump -outs, uh, we explained that we as staff could not recommend speed humps in this case because they are concerned that it would divert traffic, uh, to other nearby streets in the Longfellow Neighborhood. Um, but that we are considering curb bump -outs and what are called chokers, which are essentially curb bump -outs mid - block, but not at intersections. Um, so at this point in the process our next step is to develop preliminary designs and cost estimates with the Engineering Department. Um, and then ultimately conduct a more formal neighborhood survey, uh, which re ... which requires a 60% approval before we would bring the project to Council for consideration. Champion/ When you're talking about bump -outs, what actually are those? They're not what we put on that one street, that was a disaster! (mumbled) ...what they were called? Yapp/ Oh, on Highland Avenue, years ago? Champion/ Yes! Yapp/ No, they're not ... they're not that, no. (laughter and several talking) Chicanes are, uh, where traffic is forced to drive in ... in a slalom... fashion, moving from one side of the street to the other. No, curb bump -outs are similar to what's on Market Street. Champion/ Okay. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of October 18, 2011. October 18, 2011 Iowa City City Council Work Session Page 12 Yapp/ Where there's a ... a bump -out at the intersection, which shortens the distance pedestrians have to cross the street, um, and defines the on- street parking bay. Uh, which there is on- street parking on the one side of Court Street right now. One of the issues we're looking at is the storm sewer intakes and ... and where driveways are located and ... and physical issues like that. Dickens/ And you said nothing at the intersections. It'd be mid? Yapp/ Uh, we're looking at (both talking) Dickens/ ...concern that I got. Someone called me and said, you know, it's hard enough and when you get up to Summit Street there, if you narrow that, people turning on to Court Street, that makes it very tough to make that turn, if you're going to squeeze it any tight... so it might cause people to use a different way if they have trouble getting around that corner so you're talking mid -block more than... Yapp/ We're looking at both, in the, uh, in the initial evaluation. But, turning movements is also a concern that we've had from the School District, for the ... for the buses. Hayek/ Would this come out of our traffic calming budget or would this be a ... okay. Yapp/ Yeah, our intent is it would ... this would come out of the existing traffic calming budget. Hayek/ Okay. Well, I guess we'll get a sense of cost. You know, what we had talked about before ... and I want to do something and ... and it looks like we will, I mean, that's... that's positive, you know, could take a while to get to ... the kind of options you're talking about, what we had discussed a few ... a couple months ago, whenever that was, with ... with the neighborhood was ... an interim measure maybe involving double -sided parking, and ... which would certainly be a more cost - effective approach. Yapp/ Certainly! Hayek/ So ... that ... that's what caught my attention when I read this, that that option was absent from the list. But I see why. They don't want it. Markus/ Well, let me just comment. I think part of the way the policy is set up, uh, I think you kind of drive people to those options because we pay for all of it. And, I'm not suggesting that there be a cost - sharing, but it seems like if there are less expensive options, that maybe we have to have some sort of waiting criteria built in to this so that we don't drive people, no pun intended, right to, uh, chokers or bulb -outs or some more expensive option. Hayek/ Yeah. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of October 18, 2011. October 18, 2011 Iowa City City Council Work Session Page 13 Markus/ Because I think there are other options that may have worked in this particular case. Less expensive options. Hayek/ Well, we'll have a chance to discuss that when we ... get the information back from staff, I would have to think. Okay. Yapp/ We'd be happy to reach out again, with the on- street parking option, but at the meeting that was not something the residents were interested in. Bailey/ Even if it came sooner, I mean, even if they got traffic calming more quickly? Yapp/ That's... that's correct. We ... we did indicate that that could be done fairly quickly. I mean, essentially it's removing signs (both talking) Bailey/ ...would be my question. Yapp/ I'm sorry? Bailey/ How concerned are they really? Hayek/ Well, I think one thing we'll want to note when we forward is, you know, what's the realistic timeframe to fund and install the bump -outs? Yapp/ Oh, it will be spring. Hayek/ Oh, that soon? If... okay. Yapp/ Spring, early summer. Next ... next construction season. Hayek/ Yeah. Okay. Wilburn/ (several talking) ...presumption that they hit the 60% mark (several talking) (male)/ Correct, yes. Mims/ What was the, did they indicate their reason for not wanting both side, parking on both sides of the street? Yapp/ Um ... yes. They already have concerns with too many people using the street as street storage. Due to the, uh, nearby multi - family and sorority buildings. And, did not want more of that. Bailey/ We can address that. (several talking) Wright/ ...easy to address. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of October 18, 2011. October 18, 2011 Iowa City City Council Work Session Page 14 Bailey/ Yes! Wright/ Discussion with folks, you know, there's a 48 -hour limit that... Champion/ The other thing though is that if you drive down Court Street, the parking from Summit to kind of that alley by that apartment complex is filled, but there's never any problems parking on Court Street. So, I think that would have happened already if it's going to happen. There's tons of parking on Court Street, once you get past that commercial apartment. I don't ... I've never seen... seen that full. But, I don't know. Markus/ We haven't priced these out yet, John? Yapp/ No, we haven't. No. Hayek/ Well, we'll have a better sense when that occurs, and continue the conversation. Okay, anything else on that item? Thanks, John. Anything else on the info packet for October 13th? Karr / KXIC radio show. IP6. For November. Hayek/ I can do that first one I think. Karr/ The 2nd? Mims/ I can do the 16tH Karr/ Thank you. IP6. So we have the 9th, the 23rd, and the 30th. Dickens/ I can do the 9tH Karr/ Thank you. Champion/ I can do any of `em. I mean, whatever one we need. Are they all filled already? Wright/ 30tH Karr/ 30th? Uh, 23 rd, ll be Connie. And the 30tn'11 be Mike. Thank you. I'll firm it up in a memo. Hayek/ Okay. Karr/ Thanks. Hayek/ Thanks, Marian. Uh, pending work session issues? It's the next item. Anything on that? Pending Work Session Issues (02): This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of October 18, 2011. October 18, 2011 Iowa City City Council Work Session Page 15 Champion/ One of the ... when we discussed the, um, alcohol recommendations from that committee, that you're on ... (mumbled) (several talking) Hayek/ ...Partnership. Champion/ Partnership ... a question that I would like answered, if we don't have it now, uh, is ... when we talk, if we talk about that, the exemption has to maintain a certain PAULA rate, like we do the music venues, uh, is that going to include statistics from the Iowa City Police and the Campus Police? That's just ... it wasn't clear to me. Upcoming Events / Council Invites: Hayek/ Okay. Fair question. Okay. Uh, moving on, upcoming events, Council invites? I'll be in Des Moines on Monday for this, uh, passenger rail event that, uh, Greater Des Moines Alliance or one of the umbrella Chamber groups is putting on, uh, for passenger rail, and they're bringing in a State senator from Michigan. They're bringing in the Mayor of Normal, Illinois, which has an Amtrak, uh, station and a college, um ... and other people to ... to talk about this, but ... Des Moines is, uh, really picking up a lot of slack on ... on this issue and being (several talking) yeah, they're advocating pretty aggressively, so I'll do that on Monday morning. (several commenting) Anything else? Okay. Well, we've got a nice little break here. I'll see you back in half an hour. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of October 18, 2011.