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Home My WebLink About01-08-2009 Historic Preservation Commission IOWA CITY HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION Thursday, January 8, 2009 City Hall, 410 E. Washington Street Emma J. Harvat Hall 6:00 p.m. A. Call to Order B. Public discussion of anything not on the agenda c. Certificate of Appropriateness: 1. 712 Ronalds Street D. Virtual Forum Update E. Consideration of minutes for December 11,2008 F. Other G. Adjournment Iovva City I-listoric Preservation Cotnmission City HaIL 410 E \Vashington Street. Iowa City. Ii\. 52240 11EMORANDUM Date: January 2, 2009 To: Historic Preservation Commission From: Christina Kuecker, Associate Planner Re: 712 Ronalds Street The application was deferred at the December 11 meeting of the Commission as some of the members sought additional information about the project and wanted to be able to have a discussion with the applicant regarding several questions. The applicant has indicated that he will attend the January 8 meeting to discuss the project with the Commission. Please refer to last month's packet for the staff report, application, and supporting documents. MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION THURSDAY, DECEMBER 11, 2008 EMMA J. HARVAT HALL PRELIMINARY MEMBERS PRESENT: Thomas Baldridge, Lindsay Bunting Eubanks, Pam Michaud, Jim Ponto, Alicia Trimble, Frank Wagner MEMBERS ABSENT: Esther Baker, William Downing, Ginalie Swaim STAFF PRESENT: Christina Kuecker, Robert Anderson OTHERS PRESENT: Helen Burford, Judith Pascoe, Keith Venter CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Bunting Eubanks called the meeting to order at 6:04 p.m. PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF ANYTHING NOT ON THE AGENDA: There was none. CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS: 652 S. Governor Street. Kuecker said that this property is located on the southernmost part of Governor Street, south of Bowery, almost to the railroad tracks. She said the owner is proposing to replace the five windows in the front and the two windows on the side with windows are more in keeping with the other windows on the side and the windows on the back. Kuecker said the back windows are likely the original windows, and the windows to be replaced are likely replacement windows of not very good quality. She stated that in staff's opinion, the larger windows would make this appear more accurate as a Greek revival house, for which windows are generally taller than they are wide. Kuecker said staff recommends approval of a certificate as presented in the application. Baldridge said that it doesn't appear that the siding is different around the windows and asked if the siding was changed. Kuecker responded that the siding was changed. She stated that at the time of the survey and in the site inventory, the house had aluminum siding on it. Kuecker said the siding at some point was taken back to the wood siding, but she did not know at what point it was changed. MOTION: Ponto moved to approve a certificate of appropriateness for the project at 652 South Governor Street as proposed, with the addition stipulation of trim to match. Baldridge seconded the motion. The motion carried on a vote of 6-0. 712 Ronalds Street. Kuecker said that there are three parts of this proposed project on this non- contributing house in the Brown Street Historic District. She said the first proposal is to replace the windows on the second story. Kuecker stated that the back stretch has an addition approved and built in 2007. She said the owner would like to use the same windows as on the addition on the second story. Kuecker said the second part of the application concerns the enclosure of a small portion of the porch with a screened-in porch. Kuecker said that it is set back from the edge of the porch about two and one- half to three feet. She said there is a walkway between the railing and the screened wall. Kuecker said the application presents a suitable solution. She said that this has a configuration a 30-inch base that is sided. Kuecker said that other options include having the screens going all the way from ceiling to floor rather than having the base. She said another option would be to bring the screen wall out to the edge behind the railing rather than having the walkway. Kuecker said she is assuming the applicant needs the walkway to get from the back of the porch to the front of the porch, and in that case, one would go out a second screened door. She stated that the guidelines do allow portions of porches to be screened in, as long as it is not enclosing the front door, which this is not. Historic Preservation Commission Minutes December 11, 2008 Page 2 of 10 Kuecker said the third portion of the project refers to the addition of windows to one fayade of the garage. She stated that the windows the owner proposes to use are the ones that would be removed from the second floor of the house. Bunting Eubanks asked if the windows need to be replaced. Kuecker did not know. She said that photographs showing deterioration of the windows were not provided. Kuecker said that the garage is a shared garage, and this property owner only owns one-half of the garage. She also said that there is another structure very close to it. Ponto said that above the porch there appear to be short windows and said the owner wants to replace those with windows like those on the addition. Kuecker said the owner wants to use the same model of window but would replace with the existing size. Ponto said the removed windows would then be placed on the garage, and he asked for the size of those existing windows versus what is on the garage now. Kuecker replied that, based on the submitted drawing, they are the same size. Wagner asked if the owner is taking four windows out of the house to use on the garage. Baldridge said that what is there is a very small window. He said he thinks the owner is using the opening and enlarging it and having four windows that came from the house. Ponto said he thinks that is correct after looking at the drawing, which says, "existing window to be replaced." Michaud said she was considering the proposal to put a screened door in the back to make it more flexible. She said that maybe one of the reasons the owner wanted lower siding was because he had pets or kids. Michaud said that she used a pet-guard mesh for her screened door. Bunting Eubanks said that a lot of questions remain with regard to this application. She asked if there were any other concerns to be discussed. MOTION: Michaud moved to defer consideration of an application for a certificate of appropriateness for the projects at 712 Ronalds Street until the Commission's January meeting, when the owner is available to answer questions regarding the project. Wagner seconded the motion. Ponto said that for a non-contributing property, these things are not huge items. He said that he would feel comfortable with staff making some of the final decisions. Ponto said he did not feel strongly that this needs to be deferred but would feel comfortable letting staff review final details. Baldridge said that while this is a non-contributing structure, he would like to be as personally friendly with the applicants as possible. He said that there doesn't seem to be any urgency to the project, because the owner is out of town. Baldridge said he would feel more comfortable after some dialogue with the owner. Bunting Eubanks said that she would be interested in having more communication. She said that there could be problems, since the Commission doesn't know exactly what the owner is intending. The motion carried on a vote of 6-0. 734 Oakland Avenue. Kuecker said that there are several parts to this proposal. She said some of the work was done without a permit. Kuecker said that this property is on Oakland Avenue just north of Sheridan Street. She said the portions of the project that need approval are window replacement, construction of a fence, and alterations to the front steps. Kuecker said the window replacement has not been done, but the other two projects have been started. Kuecker said the owner has purchased windows at sales to replace the windows in the house. Kuecker said that these are very unique windows, as they only have the divided lights on the top quarter of the window, which one would not be able to buy off the shelf at a window store. She said that without knowing what windows the owner proposes; as well as the materials, specifications, and degree of deterioration of the present windows; staff is reluctant to approve window replacement. Historic Preservation Commission Minutes December 11 , 2008 Page 3 of 10 Kuecker stated staff is recommending that if significant window deterioration is shown and the specifications of the proposed windows match the current windows, then the window replacement may be approved. Regarding the porch steps, Kuecker said the owner replaced a simple, wooden front step with a stone and brick stoop. Kuecker said the new stoop does meet the guidelines and does match the house. She said, however, it is not certain whether the new stoop meets the building code. Kuecker said the code states that the two steps have to be the same, but the photographs show that they are not. She said that will be something the owner has to work out with the Building Department. Kuecker said staff recommends approval of the brick and stone steps, provided they meet the building code requirement. Kuecker said the third portion of the project concerns the fence on the north side of the property. She said the packet contains a drawing presenting the fence for which the owner wants approval. Kuecker said staff feels the drawing does not represent the fence that has been constructed. Kuecker said that the fence as built does not meet the guidelines, although the fence as drawn probably could. Kuecker said that fences typically do not come before the Commission, and there are not a lot of guidelines about them. She said that a fence only requires a building permit if it is over six feet tall. Kuecker stated that this fence is six feet tall, but it is on top of a two-foot retaining wall. She said, therefore, that the measurement from grade would be eight feet, so that is why it is before the Commission. Kuecker said the Building Department also has asked for a condition to be placed on the recommendation in that the applicant cannot get a building permit for a new fence until the old fence has been demolished. She said that way we're sure that this fence comes down and a new appropriate fence is installed. Michaud suggested discussing whether or not the proposed fence and gate would work with the front door. Kuecker said that if one looks at the two difference drawings of the house, the fence in one is different from the fence in the other, so she was not certain if the owner had a definite plan. Michaud said that she looked at the fence in the back. She said there are so many motifs going on there. She said there is a plow at the front door and a kind of fancy gate proposed. Bunting Eubanks said the drawings are slightly different from what the owner is planning on doing. Venter, the property owner, said that, regarding the gate, the drawing was just an illustration of the way it is kind of sitting right now. He said that right now all it has is the panels on it, but he has the boards going back. Bunting Eubanks asked Venter if he is going to fill it in with panels on top of the plywood. Venter confirmed this and said then the trim boards will go across that. He had pictures to show that side of the house. Bunting Eubanks asked Venter to address the City's concern that the fence line is on his neighbor's property. Venter said that actually it is on his own. He said that he went by his old plat that came with his abstract. Bunting Eubanks asked, for the sake of harmony, how hard it would be for Venter to move this over. Venter replied that it is set in concrete, and those six by six reclaim posts are set in three feet deep. He said that in the spring, he could possibly use a come-along and dig out on one side and pull it in. Venter said that actually it would be three quarters of an inch more. Kuecker said that the property line issue is a private one that the City would not get involved in. She said it would need to be worked out between the neighbors. Venter said that below that is the stone retaining wall, underneath the trellis. He said that goes all throughout there. Venter said the most that that will extend now would be three quarters of an inch more. He said that is all treated plywood, probably to be painted either white or brown. Venter said that he plans to paint the trim on the house white. Historic Preservation Commission Minutes December 11, 2008 Page 4 of 10 Venter said that when he gets a chance to get over there, the bottom will be ripped off, for the next 16 feet beyond there, and that will expose that stone. He said then he'll have a nice trim board that will match up. Bunting Eubanks asked if the plan is to do the panels all the way back. Venter confirmed this. Venter said that is a retaining wall that has to be there. He said that the property goes downhill for just a little ways. Venter said the back hill in his yard dives down pretty fast and in the neighbors' house is pretty much flat. Venter said that 16 feet from where it begins there, and then it'll drop down and then it would just be that paneled look from then on. He said then he might put a top flat plane on it with just a little bit of crown around the edge just to give it a finished edge. Bunting Eubanks said the Commission's main concern is just the design itself, to make sure it is historically correct. She said there was one concern about the variety around the house, including the wrought iron, the paneling, and other materials. Bunting Eubanks said it has been pointed out that the windows are very unique with a unique divided light on the top but not the bottom. She said that is a very important characteristic of the house. Bunting Eubanks asked if the windows on the house are really in bad shape. Venter said the previous owners didn't have any money for maintenance, although they lived there about 40 years. He said some of the windows were painted often and always had storm windows of some type on them, which helped protect them. Venter said the attic windows were not painted often, so they have just rotted. He said they rattle when the wind blows, because they are so loose. Venter said there is a big enough crack between the sash and whatnot that wasps can come and go freely. Bunting Eubanks asked what windows Venter has purchased as replacement windows. Venter replied that they were pretty upscale, but they were the ones that were used for display or whatever one that would go on sale. He said that he would grab up the window that would fit in his window hole and had the six lights. Kuecker asked Venter which windows on the house he plans to replace. Venter responded that he only has enough to do the front one, the side one, and the one that faces out the back. Kuecker asked if it is just the attic windows, and Venter confirmed this. He said that the ones down below are just fine, and in time he would get to that project and do replacement storm windows. Bunting Eubanks asked if the windows are metal clad wood. Venter said they are not vinyl windows. He said they have aluminum casing on the outside and wood to stain whatever color he wants on the inside. Venter said that the muntins are inside the glass. Bunting Eubanks said it would be helpful to have the window pamphlet to show staff so they know it is the same kind. She said that the windows really add to the character of the house. Venter said Commission members are welcome to come over to see the windows. Regarding the back window, Venter said that it will have to be a rollout one, because he is hoping that in time that can be a deck up above. He said eventually he would like to do a railing around that. Bunting Eubanks said that it helps a lot to have discussions with Kuecker before doing any projects, even if they are small. Bunting Eubanks said Kuecker can help an owner know what will look nice and what will probably be acceptable to the Commission. She said Venter is planning a lot of projects for the future, and it would be beneficial to talk them over with Kuecker to see what she recommends. Venter said that he built the front stoop in 1996 or 1997. He said his father got a building permit for that, as he remembers it was hanging on the front door on the glass. Venter said all he did for that was to dig down about two feet around it and use big stones that he salvaged there for footings on it so it wouldn't sink. He said that it is not even attached to the house. Venter said all he did was to put the stone around it and then brick over the deck that was already there. He said that it was only brick veneer. Historic Preservation Commission Minutes December 11, 2008 Page 5 of 10 Bunting Eubanks said that the stoop is not an issue for historical reasons. Kuecker said the issue is to meet the building code requirements for rise and run. Bunting Eubanks said the steps are not the same height. Venter said that actually he was pretty sure that it comes out the same, but he would measure it. Bunting Eubanks pointed out that it is not really the Commission's concern. Venter agreed it looks off in the picture, because the brick that sits down in there is away from the stone about three inches, and that is why it looks so different in height. He said he is sure that the measurement will come out the same. Michaud asked about the age of the photos. She said the lower right shows a retaining wall. He said the photographs are pretty recent. Michaud asked if the latticework would stay there. Venter stated that it would. Bunting Eubanks said that whenever a material is changed, like from wood to brick, that is an alteration that would have to be reviewed. She said the City has to make sure it is safe and that the steps are not uneven. Bunting Eubanks said that the motion that has been suggested to the Commission suggests that the project be approved with staff working with the owner. Michaud asked about the paneling on the fence and if it would be wood trim. Venter said he thought he would go with a cement siding. He said it is five to six inches wide. He said that it would look like wood. Michaud asked if that would just be the trim work or if it would be entirely fiber cementboard Venter said that would be kind of like the backdrop and that it would all be painted. He said it is a good primer, and he would probably go every sixteen inches, wherever it falls within 16 feet to have the same size panels all the way; he would make each one an individual panel. Venter said that he might use the three quarter inch boards with the cement boards and put a little piece of coating in each square to trim that out better. Venter said he did not understand why this would even be written up or under dispute until he is finished. He said that once he gets that bottom board cut out, that all it takes is the time to do it right. Venter said once that gets cut out, that will help its appearance, and then the trim work will be done. He said the bottom board will stick out like a ledge over the retaining wall. Kuecker said the recommended motion is to approve the certificate of appropriateness for the application with the following conditions: evidence of window deterioration being provided to staff. If deterioration is substantial, the new windows must be approved and must be wood or metal-clad wood that replicates the type, size, sash, width, trim, use of divided lights and overall appearance of the historic windows. Kuecker said that the divided lights may be created with muntin bars that are adhered to both sides of the glass but not with snap-in muntin bars, and only windows that meet these specifications will be approved by staff. She said the brick stairs must meet all relevant building codes to be determined by the building inspectors, and the fence is to be constructed of wood to appear as shown in the drawing, with final specifications subject to staff approval. Kuecker said that for future reference, anything that has a stair involved requires a building permit. She said that is why the stairs became a building code issue. Bunting Eubanks said there is a concern about the gate and the door on the gate matching the half circle on the front door. She asked if that would be possible. Venter said that it would. He said he has a round decorated that has vines on it and is pretty intricate and would make a nice privacy gate. Venter said that he has a half round too. Venter said there are so many people who have put up six-foot tall fences just recently who have used whatever kind of gate they wanted. Bunting Eubanks said the measurement is from the base of the retaining wall. Kuecker agreed that the building department measures from the adjacent grade. Venter asked if, because the gate is on grade level at only six feet, something is required. Bunting Eubanks said that the measurement is from the retaining wall. She said if Venter made his fence two feet shorter, the Commission would have no say as to how it is done. Venter stated that where the gate is and going from the fence to the house, that is on the same level of property without retaining walls around that. Bunting Eubanks said that is sort of a technical issue. She said it is attached to the other fence. Historic Preservation Commission Minutes December 11, 2008 Page 6 of 10 Venter asked how tall a gate can be. Kuecker was not certain. She said that if it was left under six feet, one probably wouldn't put a top on it. Bunting Eubanks said the City has people to help with design. She suggested Venter make use of those services to help him out. Ponto asked if the gate where it is adjacent to the house will be attached to the house or if there will be a post on each side at the corner of the house. Venter said he thinks he will put a post there. He said that if he attaches it to the house, he would make it a sliding deal for the frost heave. Venter said the post goes two feet in the ground, and there were so many big trees there. He said he is still dealing with the roots there. Ponto recommended that it not be attached to the house. Venter said the only reason he was considering the other way is that there is some stone fill there. He said that now that it is so cold out, it would be difficult to make a post hole there. Venter said he would actually rather have it not attached to the house. He said perhaps he could do something temporary and then put in a post after the thaw. MOTION: Ponto moved to approve a certificate of appropriateness for the project at 734 Oakland Avenue as presented in the application, with the following conditions: 1) evidence of window deterioration being provided to staff. If deterioration is substantial, the new windows must be . approved by staff and must be wood or metal-clad solid wood that replicate the type, size, sash, width, trim, use of divided lights, and overall appearance of the historic windows. The divided lights may be created with muntin bars that are adhered to both sides of the glass but not with snap-in muntin bars. Only windows that meet these specifications will be approved; 2) the brick stairs meeting all relevant building codes; 3) the fence being constructed of wood or fiber cement board to appear as shown in the drawing, with final specifications subject to staff approval; and 4) the gate design to be approved by staff with the Commission's recommendation that it reflect the style of the front of the house. Baldridge seconded the motion. The motion carried on a vote of 6- Q. DISCUSSION WITH NORTHSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ABOUT POTENTIAL NORTHSIDE HISTORIC DISTRICT. Kuecker said that this area was nominated several years ago for the National Register, and part of the area was approved as a National Register District. She said it then went in front of City Council for local district designation but was defeated, primarily because there were quite a few property owners opposed to it. Kuecker said that when 20% or more of property owners are opposed, a supermajority vote of the City Council is required. Kuecker said that many of those property owners owned property in a section that was eliminated from the National Register District. She said the National Register District ended up being smaller than was originally proposed, and the local district was defeated. Kuecker said that some property owners in the neighborhood would like to reopen the discussion of having a local district with boundary changes from the original proposal. Pascoe, representing the Northside Neighborhood Association, said that there has always been a large contingent of the neighborhood that is interested in this, because of historic preservation and also for neighborhood stabilization. She said the neighborhood has a huge number of very important, historical and significant properties. Pascoe said the neighborhood should have that historic designation, although this is made complex by the fact that a good chunk of property in the neighborhood is owned by people who don't live in the neighborhood or the City and don't have any interest in historic preservation and in some cases are constitutionally opposed to any kind of government control. Pascoe said she did not think there would be a big change this time in that suddenly there will be a vast majority of people in favor. She said she hoped the Commission could show how landlords benefited from being part of a historic district to change the opinions of those who may have been against this in the past. Historic Preservation Commission Minutes December 11 , 2008 Page 7 of 10 Pascoe said the neighborhood association wants to move ahead with this and do so quickly. She said the feeling is that the current City Council would be more favorably disposed to having this happen than in the past. Pascoe said the association is looking for the Commission's advice as to how this should go forward. Bunting Eubanks asked if the neighbors have been surveyed. She asked if the neighborhood association could possibly make the boundaries so that 80% were in favor. Kuecker commented that any district would have to be contiguous. Pascoe said they would never get 80% in favor but could expect to get about 50%. She said the neighborhood association has discussed having a smaller historic district and a larger conservation district around it but is open to suggestions. Pascoe said that there are many properties within the neighborhood that are National Register properties. Bunting Eubanks asked if there could be just a whole conservation district and no historic district. Wagner said that the landlord owners would think that a conservation district is just as bad. Bunting Eubanks said that a case could be made that a conservation district has less controls. Pascoe said that the last time this was proposed, there was one very active person in opposition. She said if there was a way to not have that kind of activism, that would make the process easier. Pascoe said that others in the neighborhood are concerned about cutting out any area that would give up property across from Mercy Hospital, as these people are concerned about Mercy encroaching on the neighborhood more. Pascoe said that, as she understands it, historic preservation doesn't stop people from demolishing properties. Kuecker said that the National Register designation doesn't keep people from knocking properties down, but a local designation would. Bunting Eubanks said that a property has to be deteriorated beyond repair or be a non-contributing structure in a local district before it is allowed to be demolished. Bunting Eubanks said that she feels it is better to save a small area than to lose it all. Pascoe said that she believes that is true as well. Bunting Eubanks said that if something more modest is proposed, City Council might be more receptive to a local district. She said that in the future, as property owners change, the district could potentially be added onto. Ponto pointed out that the original Brown Street District at one time had an addition to designate a larger area. He said it is certainly possible to add more properties later. Pascoe asked if it is up to the Neighborhood Association to find its boundaries and if it should work with the Commission to do that. Kuecker said that perhaps the best way to proceed would be to come up with what the boundaries should be and perhaps work with Kuecker to determine that. She said that the whole area has already been surveyed. Kuecker said those surveys could be gone through to make sure there are legitimate boundaries. Kuecker said that .in the past, the locally designated area has mirrored the National Register area, but it doesn't have to. She said that if the Neighborhood Association wants to work with her to come up with boundaries, she would be glad to help. Kuecker said the procedure is a rezoning so that it first comes to the Historic Preservation Commission, with the State weighing in, then it goes to the Planning and Zoning Commission, and then the City Council votes. Pascoe said that there are several tornado damaged properties that look great now that have been restored. She asked if landlords were happy with the results and if any would be a person who would be able to show how this has helped them. Kuecker said that some had received some grant money. Bunting Eubanks suggested that it would be a good idea to have a landlord who could give testimony to the benefits of designation to quell opposition. Pascoe asked what the initial steps should be. Kuecker said that notification is an important step. She said that in the past, a meeting has been held to which every property owner is invited to discuss the procedure and designation. Historic Preservation Commission Minutes December 11 , 2008 Page 8 of 10 Pascoe asked what would happen if the meeting is held and more people seem to be against this than in favor. Kuecker said then it would be up to the property owners in favor and the HPC as to whether they want to go forward or not. Michaud said that it would also be helpful to have an architect extol the benefits of designation, especially if there is an architect who lives in the neighborhood. Kuecker said that notification of property owners is important and cannot simply happen by including notice in the neighborhood newsletter or utility bills. Pascoe said the property owners in favor of local designation would figure out their end of it and hopefully have a meeting in January. She said that they would report back to the Commission. Michaud asked how the new ordinance changing the number of unrelated people allowed to live in a single-family house from five to three would affect this area. Kuecker stated that if a property currently has a rental permit, the number of unrelated residents allowed stays as it has been. She said that for a property owner newly applying for a rental permit or for new construction, the property cannot be rented to more than three unrelated people. VIRTUAL FORUM UPDATE: Bunting Eubanks said that she doesn't want everyone to be overwhelmed, and she plans to do most of the writing for the forum. She said that this month she is going to work on a PowerPoint presentation. Bunting Eubanks said that she is not as good at the common repairs, how-to guide type of thing. She asked if Wagner could send a few suggestions and tips to Kuecker to help out with that, and he agreed. Bunting Eubanks said she could also use some help with the success stories, as she is not a long-term resident of the City. She said the Mansion might be a good example and asked if anyone knows the owners. Bunting Eubanks said that a testimonial of sorts from the owners could be used in the forum. Kuecker said the Commission wanted to hold the forum in the winter. She said that because of other work, she doesn't have the time to put forth getting photographs, contacts, or notes put together. Kuecker said that if Commissioners could each take one thing, such as making a contact with someone willing to help out or taking photographs of houses that are good examples of the different styles, that would move the process forward. Burford stated that the Mount Vernon Historic Preservation Commission sponsors a public luncheon every year. She said that they hire a specialist, such as Marlys Svendsen, to give a lecture on a particular topic. Burford said they have built up a library over the years, which includes lectures on tuck pointing, mortar, paint, etc. She said that body of work is available, and the Commission might be interested in using something like that. Bunting Eubanks said that initially she wanted to do this to educate people regarding the guidelines. She stated, however, that a 20-minute lecture on the guidelines will not keep people's attention. Bunting Eubanks said she therefore personally envisioned more sound bytes, to hold people's attention, than lecturing. She said she would like to have quick, small items to keep people's attention, but the main point is to communicate the basic things. Bunting Eubanks suggested using PowerPoint by stating the guideline and then showing the visual example. Bunting Eubanks said the Commission has a lot of things on its plate, and she did not know if there was energy to do something any more in-depth. She said she envisioned this as being about 30 minutes long, 20 minutes by the Commission and 10 minutes of questions. Bunting Eubanks said that Kuecker has produced film of the Wetherby House to fill in where needed. Wagner said he likes the idea of discussing common repairs. He said that while Bunting Eubanks is working on different items, she could e-mail him and he will check around and try to get a photograph of the process while it is going on. Bunting Eubanks said she is looking for tips to give people regarding home repairs. Bunting Eubanks said that she would be working on the forum over winter break. CONSIDERATION OF MINUTES FOR NOVEMBER 13. 2008. Historic Preservation Commission Minutes December 11 , 2008 Page 9 of 10 MOTION: Wagner moved to approve the minutes of the Historic Preservation Commission's November 13, 2008 meeting, as written. Baldridge seconded the motion. The motion carried on a vote of 6-0. OTHER: Wagner said that he talked to Kevin O'Brien, who did the house on Hutchinson - the Tudor-style house at the end before the ravine. Wagner said he was asked why the house didn't receive a historic preservation award, but he said that he didn't know about it. Wagner suggested that this and other ongoing projects could be eligible for an award next year. Robert Anderson, the intern, said that he was in the process of working on the CLG Annual Report and had some things for new Commission members to fill out. He said he can e-mail the documents to people, but the City needs the information for its report. Kuecker said there would be a draft for the Commission to review at its next meeting. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 7:50 p.m. Minutes submitted by Anne Schulte c o I/) .~ E E o (.) c o ;0 CO c= G,) I/) ! D.. o 'i: o - .~ J: "E o o G,) a:: G,) CO o c c c CO N "'C C G,) - <C ... 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