HomeMy WebLinkAbout2013-07-23 TranscriptionJuly 23, 2013 Iowa City City Council Work Session Page 1
Council Present: Champion, Dickens, Dobyns, Hayek, Mims, Payne, Throgmorton
Staff Present: Markus, Fruin, Dulek, Karr, Howard, Hightshoe, Havel, Fosse, Hardy,
Boothroy, Gannon, Yapp, Bentley, Davidson
Others Present: Bramel (UISG)
Consult With Planning and Zoning Commission:
Hayek/ (recording starts here) ...um, suspend the work session. The Council has to go into
Executive, uh, Session on some legal matters. Um, so want to alert you to that. Uh, but
the, uh, first item this evening, uh, will be our consultation with Planning and Zoning
Commission on the, uh, drinking establishment spacing issue, um, and I want to welcome
our Members of the Planning and Zoning Commission to the meeting. We appreciate
you being here. Um, before we get into, uh, the staff and... and our discussion on it, I
think we should go around and introduce ourselves, uh, not only for introduction's sake
but also so that our transcriptionist can get proper names. So, John, if we could start over
on your end, please.
Thomas/ John Thomas.
Theobald/ Jodi Theobald.
Eastham/ Charlie Eastham.
Martin/ Phoebe Martin.
Throgmorton/ Jim Throgmorton.
Champion/ Connie Champion.
Mims/ Susan Mims.
Hayek/ Matt Hayek.
Dickens/ Terry Dickens.
Payne/ Michelle Payne.
Dobyns/ Rick Dobyns.
Swygard/ Paula Swygard.
Freerks, Ann Freerks.
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Dyer/ Carolyn Dyer.
Hayek/ Great, thanks! Do you want to ... tee us up here?
Howard/ Hi, I'm Karen Howard from the Planning Department. I'll just give a brief background
to this issue. Um, in 2009 due to the concentration of, uh, drinking establishments in
downtown Iowa City, in proximity to the University campus, you adopted a 500 -foot
spacing rule between bars, and basically since the passage in 2009, um, that drinking
establishment rule has ... has achieved the goal — preventing further concentration of bars
in the downtown area. Um, however, it has come to staff's attention, um, that the broad
application of this 500 -foot spacing requirement in outlying commercial areas may be
undueling ... unduly restricting economic development opportunities in the outlying
commercial areas, where an unhealthy concentration of drinking establishments is
unlikely to occur. Um, therefore staff recommended to the Commission, and we had a
Planning and Zoning Commission meeting, um, that staff's recommendation was given
the low risk that outlying commercial areas will experience the same market conditions
that created the concentration of bars downtown, staff is remak ... recommended
amending the zoning ordinance so that the 500 -foot spacing rule would only apply in
certain areas close to the downtown and the University campus. Um, we defined those
areas using, um ... designations that we already have in the zoning ordinance. One is the
University impact area that's shown on the map here, which basically shows a fairly large
area of, uh, including downtown Iowa City, uh, and portions of the Riverfront Crossings
district. Um, the second map here is ... is the Riverfront Crossings district itself, because
the University impact area did not include, uh, the portion of Riverfront Crossings that's
south of the Iowa Interstate Railroad, um, we felt like that ... because that area is a future
development area that could contain commercial that's within walking distance of
downtown and... and the University campus, that that should be, uh, should continue to
have the 500 -foot spacing rule. Um ... on a ... these are some of the areas outside the
University impact area and the Riverfront Crossings district that are commercial areas,
um, that also have the 500 -foot spacing rule now that are fairly distant. Just to give you
an idea — Highway 1 west; uh, Pepperwood Plaza along Highway, uh 6; Sycamore Mall;
the Towncrest area; Old Towne Village on the far east side of town; and Walden Square,
which is along Mormon Trek are some of the outlying commercial areas that would be
affected by this ordinance amendment. So on a 2 to 4 vote, the Commission voted
against amending the ordinance and Members of the Commission are here to ... tonight to
discuss, uh, why they voted the way they did, and I believe representing the majority,
Charlie Eastham, um, the Vice Chair of the Commission is going to start off.
Eastham/ Sure! Uh, Ann, do you want to say anything as Chair before we...
Freerks/ Um, no, I mean I ... I was in the minority so if you have any questions about, uh, that
was I believe, uh, Phoebe and myself and John was absent at that meeting, just so you
kind of get the way that it lays out, but I'll let you go ahead, Charlie, and ... as long as
everyone who voted, um, has something to say about it, I think that's a good idea.
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Eastham/ Okay. That'd be great. Uh ... our plan tonight is to ask, uh, Jodi to, uh, give the
rationale or the, uh, major thinking on the part of Commission Members who voted, uh,
against changing the 500, uh, or reducing, altering the 500 -foot rule in all areas of the
community. Um, and then the other Members of the Commission will make some
additional comments too.
Theobald/ Um, I guess I become very passionate about this, um, having taught `Alcohol and
Your College Experience' at the University. Um, I feel that Iowa City is a fairly, um,
while we think we're very cosmopolitan, it's still just a small town. And one of the
things that I tried to get across to my students is the connectedness. Both among the
University community and urn ... among the other residents of the town. I see the
University impact area as being the entire community. Um, it's very walkable. I see
students... students have lived in every neighborhood I've lived in on the west side. Um,
I see this having very adverse... could potentially very adverse impact on, um,
neighborhoods, such as ... you know, when I look at it there and look at, um, Waldon
Square. I look at the impact of all the apartments and all the young families around there
and what having a drinking establishment that stays open until 2:00 would do in that area.
Um, I also know that from looking at the research, that the environment and the number
of outlets is one of the major factors in determining drinking behavior. Um, and it
becomes more and more so as you look at current research, and not only binge drinking
behavior, but you look at the research as it (mumbled) the entire, uh, level of drinking,
um, so I think that that was, does that kind of sum up? I listened to a lot of horror stories.
The first time I taught the course, students had to relay a, uh, just an experience and we
were going to categorize them. And we were going to ... I expected them to be things like
`my roommate kept me up all night,' or `I got very sick,' and so we started out with a
category, our largest category was near -death experience. So in my mind, um, I felt we
were failing them as a community in providing a safe environment for them. I think we
have taken major steps on, um, heading in that direction with positive results and I don't
feel that we should change ... at this time. If ever!
Eastham/ (several talking) ...go through the rest of the Commission Members and then Council
may want to ask questions. Is that okay? Uh, Mayor Hayek (mumbled)
Hayek/ Sure! Absolutely!
Eastham/ Uh, Carolyn, did you have anything to add?
Dyer/ Um, I voted against exempting parts of the city from this for similar reasons to those that
Jodi has mentioned. Part of the problem that occurred in the downtown was an
unintended consequence of businesses leaving when the, uh, Coralville Mall opened.
Um, right now we can't ... we don't know what unintended consequences of extending,
uh, the ... or permitting... liquor licenses in more ... greater concentration in other parts of,
um, the community, and ... and all of those areas, except maybe Highway 1 west they're
adjacent to, uh, a substantial amount of residential, um, development and ... that fact alone
seems to indicate that there are people who will be annoyed at... at a minimum by an
extension of the drinking culture that occurs downtown.
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Hayek/ Thank you.
Eastham/ Paula?
Swygard/ When you look at those areas and what I am particularly interested in Highway 1 west
is that's an area that I am very familiar with. Highway 1 west, Pepperwood Plaza,
Towncrest, Walden Square all have pockets of housing, residential housing, that are
neighborhoods in need of stabilization. And I ... I firmly believe that having drinking
establishments open ... til 2:00 A.M. in those areas puts them further at risk. It does not
help stabilize them at all. We do have a little pocket of, uh, drinking establishments
opened until 2:00 A.M. on Highway 1 west, next to Fin and Feather, that area. We've
had some difficulties with that. And I just don't think that it would be a good idea to
establish that in other parts of town. Um, I would be in favor of, uh, considering different
types of regulations, if you wanted to consider... amending the 500 -foot to something
different or special exemptions, kinds of those things, but I think as a general rule we
don't know what possibly might cluster, although it's unlikely, I'm not sure we can
predict that.
Hayek/ Thank you.
Eastham/ And, then, uh, I would just add that in considering my vote on this proposal, uh, it
occurred to me that earlier, and uh, when we had considered the original, uh ... uh,
regulation, there was considerable input from the, uh, from the community, especially
people from the University who had done ... who have done research on the relationship
between concentrations of drinking, uh, access and, um ... um, undesirable or ... uh, good
idea to avoid drinking behavior, and I didn't ... when we were considering the current, the
current (mumbled) of that, the requirement, I didn't hear much, um, comment or input
from those, uh, sources and so I personally would like to, uh ... um, if the Council and I
(mumbled) disagreeing, I'd like to have a chance for the, uh, to hear from those sources
to see what they would have to say about this, uh, reduction of the, or actually the
increase the number of, uh, available outlets in the community as a whole, as opposed to
particular, uh, places in the community. Um, so I think that kind of covers everything.
So, I mean, the Council may have questions for individuals or for other, uh, peop...
people on the Commission as well.
Throgmorton/ (several talking) ...hear from the minority, uh, and also I have a question for
Karen but maybe hear from the minority first.
Freerks/ Uh, sure! Um, I took some time to kind of go through and read through the notes from
2009 — there were three meetings that we had that were public, one informal, two formal,
um, a lot of discussion and, you know, discussion was needed I think about something. It
was a big change like this. And ... um, what it really was about was about, um,
controlling excess — what it comes down to when we ... when we did this, and I guess for
me, um, adding, uh, one or two bars or restaurants that probably stay open as bars.
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They're officially called bars if they stay open between 12:00 and 2:00, um, in some of
these areas doesn't equate to excess for me, and um...
Hayek/ Excess or access?
Freerks/ Excess... excess drinking. I mean, it is access. You could probably use either word, I
guess (several talking and laughing)
Hayek/ Access to excess!
Freerks/ Yes, yes! Um, so, um ... you know we ... the phrase used often was `the concentration of
and I'm not sure that allowing, um, a few more in this area, and perhaps something about
what Paula said, you know, talking about distances or special exception would be a way
to kind of prevent something which might occur which I personally don't think probably
will occur, a proliferation of, uh, bars in areas outside of the downtown area. It took a lot
of years to make what happened in downtown, and we ... and we didn't address it for a lot
of years, and really that's what it came down to. Um, we did apply, um ... different
standards for liquors... liquor outlets than we did for bars and there was some discussion
about that, but urn ... the bottom line is the goal was about reducing, um, concentration
and creating change in the downtown area. And uh, we took a stab at it by throwing the
net wider, and I think what we've always done in the past is if we find that, um,
sometimes an issue arises with the wide net that we've pitched out with a Planning and
Zoning issue that we, um, look at it carefully and we, urn ... have a chance to fine -tune it
and create change, and for me that's what this was about probably, and um, I guess I'm
just in the minority. I ... I don't feel that, um, it probably would become an excess o
...over time, but ... I'm in the minority. (several talking)
Martin/ I... feel similar to Ann in that I don't ... I personally don't see it the correlation between,
um ... adding one or two to excess, um, you know, it's sort of seems to me if somebody
wants something, they will find it, they will get it. Um ... does convenience make a
difference? This is a small town. It's all actually pretty convenient. Um ... it was
interesting that the night that this was brought up recently the ... the code amendment right
before that was to allow schools, um, and education facilities in sort of interesting areas,
and in my mind I was thinking, `Great, education! Yes!' Well, that actually plays
directly into this, because .... I mean ultimately education is the key. I mean, there are
these classes and there is constant education, I mean ... I think bringing up the idea of
alcoholism and how this ... this amendment could affect that, I think is ... a little out of
...out of proportion, but ... again, that's my opinion of it, but ... so, that's kind of where
I'm coming from.
Hayek/ Thank you! Jim, do you have a question for Karen? (noises on mic)
Throgmorton/ Yeah, Matt, if I could. Karen, am I right in understanding that there was no 500 -
foot rule prior to what, 2009, is that the year that...
Howard/ Yes, that's right. There were no (both talking)
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Throgmorton/ All right. Did we have a problem with excess drinking in areas outside the
downtown back then?
Howard/ Um, I don't believe we had the same concentration of, uh, establishments that we have
had in downtown. I mean, we kind of know what's there now and what there was in the
past. I guess it's a matter of opinion whether there's a concentration, but I don't believe
that there was a concentration (both talking)
Throgmorton/ No, I'm asking did we have a problem with excess drinking ... in areas outside the
downtown back in the period prior to 2009 when this 500 -foot rule was adopted? To the
best of your knowledge.
Howard/ To the best of my knowledge, no not to the extent that we had downtown. I don't know
if there was specific incidences, uh, particular places, cause I can't speak to every
instance of problems, but urn ... I don't believe that the 500 -foot spacing rule would have
come up unless there was the concentration (both talking)
Throgmorton/ ...because I'm thinking, and I may be wrong (mumbled) stand to be corrected.
I'm thinking that there was no excess drinking problem, at least not anything out of the
ordinary. Nothing like the downtown in those areas prior to 2009.
Howard/ I ... I would say that characterization is correct.
Dobyns/ Karen, since 2009, since the 21- ordinance went into effect in its current status, how
many times has City staff gotten some, um... concerns from bars that want open within
500 -feet of another bar? Have we had any bites in areas outside the proposed impact
area?
Howard/ I ... I've only heard anecdotal. We haven't received any applications that I'm aware of.
Now the Housing Inspection Services staff may have more information about if there's
actually been people inquiring. Um, the area that I've heard specifically is the Olde
Town Village area, um ... that there's one popular, uh, restaurant in that area and, um,
there may be an interest in more restaurants in that area, and most of the restaurants want
to have a liquor license and ... and uh, would like to have the opportunity to stay open
during bar hours.
Dobyns/ But none from the other five bulleted, uh, commercial area up there?
Howard/ I'm not aware of any.
Dobyns/ Okay.
(female)/ I guess I have another comment because I ... I think that this whole discussion about
(mumbled) do not have problems with excess drinking in other parts of the community.
We have to look at just in being residents of the State of Iowa, we have a higher drinking
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rate than a lot of other parts of the country. Um, when you look at it from a public health
standpoint, um, my husband works in the Towncrest area. Um, he deals with people with
major substance abuse problems, including drinking in that area, and to increase, either
on- premise or off - premise alcohol within these areas is potentially going to contribute to
a problem that already exists. Um, so I guess that's... that's my feeling, that the problem
does exist for us to say `there's a problem' in an area, and then there's not a problem in
other areas, drinking is a part of our culture and the level that we're drinking at, um, it's
not just the students in this community either. I think that's something that's very
important, and when we look at, you know (both talking)
(Theobald)/ and that really wasn't ... I just want to say, we weren't talking just about students.
That was part of the equation, but it was more about this huge concentration, and I think,
um, there was a memo from March 27, 2009. We asked about, um, the year, starting in
1999 and then the number of liquor license and the increase, and it started at 30 in 1999,
uh, peaked at 52 in 2006, and then went to 46 in 2008. That was the last (mumbled) So
that's what we were talking about in terms of concentration, you know, anybody can
drink alcohol downtown and it really was an attraction for lots and lots and lots of people,
just because it was such a small area with so many outlets. I did have a question for you,
if I may, Karen, and that is ... we ... we did something different with liquor es ... with um,
places that sell liquor in terms of like liquor stores. It was a ... have there been a greater
increase in liquor stores in the areas then, cause that would be one way to look at it, you
know.
Howard/ I'm not aware of any...
(Freerks)/ Because we had a different standard and so, I mean, if that... if we saw a great
increase, then I might have some concerns (both talking)
Howard/ Right, I don't believe that there's been a great increase in liquor outlets outside the
downtown.
(female)/ Okay.
Champion/ (several talking) I have a question about that ordinance. It seems to me that we
defined bars and restaurants as different entities. Isn't that true? I mean, if you were a
restaurant you would not be denied a liquor permit. Isn't that correct?
Howard/ In the zoning ordinance ... for this particular regulation in the zoning ordinance, it's a
little bit confusing cause the ... the liquor license regulations are in a different part of the
City code, and there is a different definition of what a restaurant is. But for the purposes
of this particular 500 -foot spacing rule, which is the only rule we have in the zoning
ordinance about liquor establishments, um, we defined, uh, restaurants very simply, or
uh, drinking establishments very simply. They had to meet three characteristics — one,
they had to have a liquor license; two, their primary business had to be eating and
drinking. So things like theaters and um, you know, like the Englert Theater. Other
things that weren't... their primary business they're not categorized so ... so eating and
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drinking is the second and uh, um ... the third is they had to be open during bar hours on a
regular basis between midnight and 2:00. So, restaurants that were open during the week
until midnight but were open all the ... all weekend between midnight and 2:00 were still
considered open on a regular basis, between... during bar hours. So they'd be categorized
as drinking establishments.
Hayek/ Are there any other questions for ... P &Z?
Martin/ I just have one more comment. I think that you also need to consider not just the
concentration of drinking establishments, but also the affect that that concentration has on
neighborhood crime. Um, for example, Highway 1 west area, there are a lot of calls
regarding intox ... intoxicated pedestrian, uh, public intox, um, I ... because there is a little
concentration over there, I don't know if that impacts that or if the same thing would
happen if it was just one ... one establishment. But, it does impact that ... that part of town.
Hayek/ Well I ... I appreciate, uh, these comments very much. I ... I was part of the council when
we made, uh, that move in 2009 and... and um, and I think you're right. I think ... I mean.
as I recall, the genesis was the issues we were facing downtown and our frustration with,
um, with ... with the fact that things weren't improving. Uh, we had not gone to 21 yet.
We had been shut down on an attempt to tie PAULAs to ... to what the City can do
locally, and that has to do with State supremacy over ... over local control, and ... and um,
so we embarked on a series of, uh, measures, this being one of them, to address the ... the
concentration issues downtown, and I remember at the time having a concern that this
was potentially too wide a net, um, but we ... but we went for it, uh, anyway, um, because
of the issues downtown, um .... I ... I think this Council's been very, uh, aggressive on
alcohol issues, uh, over the last, uh, four or five years, um ... and ... and continues to be.
We're about to take up another, uh ... uh... petition to overturn 21 and I ... pretty confident
in what the council will ... will choose to do this evening. Um, and we work closely with
Partnership for Alcohol Safety and we do lots of other things, um ... so I'm inclined
to ... to support, um, what the staff recommendation is, but these perspectives are
important ones. I'm glad we're hearing them. That's the purpose of this process, um,
and ... and these are valid arguments on both sides of the issue.
Champion/ John, you didn't make any comments.
Thompson/ No, I wasn't there that evening.
Champion/ Oh, okay. Do you have an opinion?
Thompson/ Um, I tend to support the majority. I ... I do think that, um, and I'm relatively new to
Iowa City, and I do think, you know, I've heard it said that Iowa City is a drinking town
with a college problem. You know, there's (laughter and several talking) of the usual
line. Um, so I ... I am concerned about drinking establishments as defined. This certainly
doesn't preclude serving alcohol til midnight. Um, the other thing that I don't think was
mentioned is I ... I would tend to think that these outlying areas, there would be more of a
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linkage between driving and drinking. Um, more so than in the center of town. So...
that ... that aspect of it, I think, would be more prominent.
Hayek/ Okay.
Payne/ I ... I have one comment, and it really isn't ... it's more toward their meeting minutes and
Jeff and I had some emails back and forth about this. But, the meeting minutes actually
say a vote was taken and the motion was denied 2 to 4 with Freerks and Martin opposed.
I think it should say that they were in favor, the two ... the two were in favor, not opposed.
Because it was stated positively, so ... okay. I ... I had to get that out (laughter)
Eastham/ We appreciate your continued (mumbled) (laughter) attention to the things that I
somewhat overlook (several talking and laughing)
Hayek/ She's the grammatical, typographical (both talking)
Champion/ (mumbled)
Hayek/ ...of the Council so ... (several talking and laughing)
Throgmorton/ What are the requirements when we have consultation like this?
Hayek/ I don't (both talking)
Throgmorton/ Two - thirds majority or majority vote on the Council? I ... I don't know what the
requirements are.
Hayek/ I don't think there is a requirement per se. I think there' simply a requirement for a
consultation which this meeting fulfills, and then we'll go and take it up at our formal
meeting this evening.
Mims/ Sue is nodding her head yes.
Hayek/ Sue's nod ... yes, our City Attorney's office is ... is nodding in agreement. If that answers
your question, Jim. Okay, well thank you and thank you for your service (both talking)
Mims/ Yes, thank you!
Hayek/ P &Z is a... a tough Commission. It takes a lot of time and uh, we're grateful that you do
the work.
Dobyns/ Unless you want to stick around (mumbled) (several talking)
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Council Appointments:
Hayek/ Why don't we ... well, we'll let `em get out of here. I wanted to ... if we can knock off
like one thing before 5:30 that'd be great! Yeah why don't we take up Council
appointments, uh, that may be something we can accomplish pretty quickly here. Um,
we have multiple appointments to make, and why don't we start with the Airport Zoning
Commission. We have, uh ... two applications for one spot.
Champion/ I think they are both very qualified, but of course I'd just (mumbled)
Mims/ Yeah, I don't know anything about either. They both looked good. I don't know if
anybody knows...
Dobyns/ No. On paper I agree with Connie — Christine.
Hayek/ Christine Douglas? (several responding) Okay. Um, next one is Parks and Recreation.
This should be an easy one — one spot, one application.
Champion/ She's very qualified.
Hayek/ Yep! And just in the interest of disclosure, she's the spouse of Steve Long on City staff,
but I ... I know Suzanne. I think she's fantastic. And she ... I talked to her and she wants
to get involved but chose this in part because it has the most separation from what Steve
does.
Dobyns/ That's okay. That's enough degrees of separation. (laughter) Okay.
Hayek/ Apparently! Um ... but, but I think she'd be very good.
Mims/ Actually, family members of staff can't!
Champion/ What is that (both talking)
Dobyns/ That's what I mean, degrees of separation. I mean there's (several talking)
Mims/ I think it may be a little foolish, but I think there's a (several talking)
Karr/ We have a resolution. I just haven't looked at that.
Champion/ What's on top of that application says about who can't ... who can't be on the
Conditional (mumbled)
Dulek/ Yeah, I thought we'd looked in our office about that, uh...
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Hayek/ Yeah, here it is. Spouses and relatives of City Council Members and members of
comparable County boards and commissions are not eligible for appointment to City
boards and commissions.
Mims/ Okay.
Champion/ Right.
Dobyns/ Okay.
Payne/ Not staff (several talking)
Hayek/ Good catch! (several responding) Is everyone okay with Suzanne Bentler?
Mims/ Sure.
Champion/ Yes!
Hayek/ Okay, next up is urn ... Housing and Community Development Commission.
Throgmorton/ So (mumbled)
Dickens/ Peter Mathis.
Throgmorton/ I'd like to raise a general point, which we're not going to be able to discuss at this
moment. I think we need to achieve much greater racial and ethnic diversity on our com
...boards and commissions, and in order to do that we've got to do some outreach. Uh,
it's not going to happen unless we do that, and I looked at this great set of applicants and
thought, not a single person of color is among the applicants for this commission or for
the Human Rights Commission, I think, I mean I hope I'm not wrong about that. And
we've got to change that! So...
Mims/ I would agree. I think we need to do some outreach.
Throgmorton/ But it's a great set of applicants too so and (several talking)
Dickens/ I just ... after reading `em, I thought Peter Matthes kind of rose to the top, at least on my
list (mumbled)
Champion/ I have him down too.
Throgmorton/ Yeah, he looks great.
Dickens/ Very qualified... all of `em are great, but he just seemed to step up.
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Mims/ Well, and I thought on two males, uh, I thought David Hacker looked fine and Charles
Drum has done two terms and so to ... do some turnover.
Payne/ I thought it was interesting that in the ... printout it says Charles Drum is serving his
second three -year term, but he says he's serving his third three -year term.
Champion/ Oh, wow!
Hayek/ ...noticed that!
Champion/ We don't usually (mumbled)
Hayek/ He might be mistaken or we might be mistaken! (laughter and several talking)
Champion/ ...partial term (both talking)
Dobyns/ I agree with Susan. I think David joining Peter (several responding)
Hayek/ Okay.
Dobyns/ I know Susan and Dorothy. I guess talking with City staff, my ... my sense of knowing
them both, I think, uh, Dottie, uh, Dorothy would be a better (mumbled) but I think Susan
or Dorothy would be ... are pretty close. I don't know what (both talking)
Mims/ Yeah, I don't know any of `em but Dorothy was kind of my pick on the (mumbled)
Champion/ Dorothy had a resume that was longer than my...
Mims/ It doesn't disqualify her. (laughter)
Champion/ I mean (laughter)
Dickens/ You just had to read a little more! (laughter)
Hayek/ You're such a townie! (laughter)
Dobyns/ And ... and I don't know (mumbled) I'm sure she'd be good too but...
Champion/ They all sounded really great!
Dobyns/ Yeah, but ... but I know the other two and I ... I'd lean toward, uh, Dottie.
Champion/ Okay!
Hayek/ Okay, so Matthes, Hacker, and is it Persson? Okay. And ... uh, Human Rights
Commission.
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Throgmorton/ I spoke with Andrea Cohen, uh, on ... on the phone. I think, Rick (both talking)
you did too. Uh, I had a, uh, really good conversation with her. I was impressed by the
way she responded to my questions. She had submitted a letter to us, as well.
Hayek/ Yeah.
Throgmorton/ I ... I think she'd probably be a good appointee.
Hayek/ I'd be happy with that (several responding)
Mims/ ... sounds fine.
Hayek/ ...she'd bring some youth to the commission, as well. Uh, and then 9h, PCRB, is the last
one, 9h. One applicant. Everybody okay with reappointing, uh, Joe Treloar? (several
responding) Probably killing his name there. Okay. So I think we've got that taken care
of Good! Got that done! Uh, let's uh ... take up our special meeting here. So we will...
we will, uh, pause the work session and we'll go into a special formal.
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Council Agenda Items:
Hayek/ Let's take up the second bullet point, uh, which is questions from Council regarding
agenda items.
ITEM 2d(17) AGREEMENT WITH PUBLIC ACCESS TELEVISION - AUTHORIZING
THE MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST AN
AGREEMENT WITH PUBLIC ACCESS TELEVISION, INC. FOR
FUNDING, OPERATION, AND MANAGEMENT OF THE LOCAL
PUBLIC ACCESS FUNCTION.
Throgmorton/ Item 2d(17), the PATV contract. Uh, I'm thinking that should be pulled from the
consent calendar so that probably Bob Hardy, uh, could explain, briefly explain for the
public what, uh, what the change in the negotiated contract implies. (several talking)
Markus/ He wants to do that at the (both talking)
Throgmorton/ Yeah, dur ... during the formal meeting, Bob, is what I'm saying.
Dobyns/ 2d(7)?
Dickens/ 2d(17)
Hayek/ 2d(17)
Throgmorton/ 2d(17), yeah.
Hayek/ Jim, why don't you make the motion for that, if you would.
Throgmorton/ All right!
ITEM 2d(16) SIDEWALKS ALONG BARBER'S PLACE - AUTHORIZING THE
MAYOR TO SIGN AND THE CITY CLERK TO ATTEST THE RELEASE
OF THE OBLIGATION TO INSTALL SIDEWALKS ALONG BARBER'S
PLACE, PENINSULA NEIGHBORHOOD, PHASE 2A, IOWA CITY,
IOWA.
Payne/ I have a question on 2d(16), which is the, uh, sidewalk on Barber Place. My question is,
why? Why would we have the ... design something that we can't put a sidewalk on?
Davidson/ Good question! (laughter) The... obviously this is the Peninsula neighborhood,
and ... and everybody's aware we have a complete streets policy where we always have
sidewalks everywhere. This ... this, Barber Place ... I don't know if you've been out here.
This is kind of the ... the edge, uh, that overlooks the river, and Iowa River Landing is
over here. Urn ... this is just been building out. This is a ... a separate cul -de -sac. This is,
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this ... this "street" is really more like a driveway. It's really, really tight. The original
development did not have sidewalks. And then as they were platting this, they decided to
add sidewalks because they wanted to have sidewalks. When they physically got out to
the site and built the street, they realized there's not enough room for sidewalks and it's
basically, Michelle, a driveway (noises on mic) um, so that's why the request to take the
sidewalks off. They ... they simply don't physically have room once they got in the field
constructing it to have the sidewalks. They even suggested putting them off the back of
curb and there wasn't even room to put `em off the back of the curb (noises on mic)
Payne/ Even if like three foot instead of four...
Davidson/ Uh, well I imagine they used our regulation width. I don't know for sure.
Payne/ Didn't we change our sidewalk width to four feet from three feet or something?
Davidson/ We changed it from four to five, actually.
Dobyns/ Do you have a picture of this by any chance, Jeff?
Davidson/ This is all I have. Yeah. I mean, it's under construction. It's been kind of under
construction. They're just starting to build the ... the first houses out here, but it's ... I
guess to...if there's ... if there's a possible reassurance here is that this is a very out of the
way street. It doesn't have any traffic on it, except for the houses that live on this street.
Payne/ Other than people going for walks, I mean, I live on what I would call an out of the way
street too and people walk on it all the time.
Davidson/ Yeah, and obviously the main street here, where people are more likely to be walking,
um, I mean, I suppose you could scoop the loop here if you were walking (laughter) but
um, otherwise these ... these streets all have sidewalks and it would just be Barber Place
right here that would not have one. You ... you can see that the frontage of these lots are
just really small, and by the time you ... you put a driveway in, these ... you know, because
of the bluff back here, these are front... there's hardly any front-loaded ... very few I
should say, front - loaded streets, uh, with the driveway in the front in the Peninsula, but
because of the topography back here, you have to ... you have to have the driveway in the
front and ... and you can see the lot widths are just so small here, uh, where they hit the
street. Uh, that's... that's basically the reason you can't fit any sidewalk in (noises on
mic)
Markus/ Some of those are shared driveways in there, too.
Davidson/ I am not aware of that, but that certainly could be. Any other questions about what's
being asked for here? Thank you.
Hayek/ Thanks, Jeff.
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Champion/ Jeff, how do they, um, I ... I just (mumbled) I don't care about the fact that area
doesn't have any sidewalks. That road is very narrow so there will be no parking, cause
how are emergency vehicles going to get (both talking)
Davidson/ I would imagine... John, do you happen to know ... if there's no parking on this street?
I would imagine ... with the driveways, Connie, practically speaking, I don't even know if
you could fit a car in there. Um ... but...
Champion/ Oh, I see what you're saying... because there's no space.
Davidson/ Because there's no space to ... to put a car. My guess is that there'd be no parking.
ITEM 2f(14) Joe Younker and Parks & Recreation Commission: Chauncey Park
Hayek/ Thanks, Jeff. Uh, I've got an item ... 2f(14) is the letter from the Parks and Rec
Commission to the City.
Champion/ Oh, right!
Hayek/ Um...
Mims/ Uh huh.
Hayek/ ...requesting involvement in design and other issues relating to Chauncey Park, if we
move forward with ... with that redevelopment. Um ... what's the appropriate step on that?
Markus/ Uh, refer it to staff. We, um, we have a staff team that's, uh, working on that
development with the developer and we'll take a look at that, uh, report and then respond
back to that on behalf of the Council.
Hayek/ Okay. I just want to make sure we do that.
Champion/ Well, my ... part of that letter said they thought the park would be destroyed, but...
part of it was the thing about the new building will be ... they'll have to replace the park to
its original condition. Isn't that true
Markus/ It will be impacted during the construction (both talking)
Champion/ ...during the construction (both talking) be restored.
Markus/ ...but it will be restored. In fact, what ... what we're talking about is a planning effort as
to what, you know, we ... we're looking at all of our parks over time and doing
comprehensive plans on each park as we go through them, so that's the approach we'll
take with this, uh, park as well. So ... it will be restored as a part of the development.
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Throgmorton/ I do think it's important to respond, uh, directly to the Commission, because it's a
request from the Commission. We appointed `em, we've asked them to do work for us.
So, you know, as an act of respect we need to do that.
Markus/ Yeah, and... and our thoughts and discussions so far have been that obviously whatever
plan we come up with has to be vetted through the Parks Commission and get their
blessing as a part of all this so ... uh, that's... that's in the discussions but we're not at a
point of, you know, a serious recommendation at this point.
ITEM 2f(5) Larry Baker: SCOTUS land -use decision - A Legal Blow to Sustainable
Development.
Throgmorton/ I ... I have an item I'd like to very quickly bring up — Item 2f(5). I ... I hope my
notes are right — the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in Koontz vs St. John's, the one
where we got that email from Larry Baker about. I'd just like to make sure we... that
Eleanor knows. We've talked about this briefly in, I don't know ... one of our previous
meetings, that Eleanor knows that we would like to receive an opinion from her about its
relevance to Iowa City and our zoning, rezoning kinds of decisions.
Dulek/ Yes, she's uh .... having one, uh, somebody in her office addressed that. I think there
were two or three other, uh ... land use decisions made by the Supreme Court, uh, in their
last session. So that memo will be forthcoming.
Throgmorton/ Great.
Hayek/ Thanks, Sue.
ITEM 2e(1) SOLID WASTE COLLECTION FEES - SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING
FOR AUGUST 6, 2013, ON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 3
ENTITLED "FINANCES, TAXATION & FEES," CHAPTER 4 ENTITLED
"SCHEDULE OF FEES, RATES, CHARGES, BONDS, FINES AND
PENALTIES," SECTION 5 ENTITLED "SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL," OF
THE CITY CODE TO INCREASE OR CHANGE RESIDENTIAL SOLID
WASTE COLLECTION FEES.
Payne/ I have a question on 2e(1). Solid waste collection fees. Says that the fees for the garbage
stickers and tires were not specifically identified in the proposed budget document, but
nowhere can I find where it says what the fees are going to be. Do we know what the
fees are going to be?
Markus / Rick.
Hayek/ There's the fee man!
Fosse/ (laughter) I can't tell you from memory but I can follow up with that information for you.
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Payne/ Yeah, and... if it's in the document I couldn't find it. I don't... so maybe it is in here and I
just couldn't find it.
Fosse/ I'll follow up with that for you.
Payne/ Okay, thanks! (laughs) Well I was hopin' somebody else found it!
ITEM 4a HIERONYMUS / KUM AND GO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN -
AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN - SOUTHEAST DISTRICT
PLAN TO CHANGE THE LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM MULTI-
FAMILY TO COMMERCIAL FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE
NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF MUSCATINE
AVENUE AND SCOTT BOULEVARD. (CPA13- 00002) [Discussion only at
formal meeting]
ITEM 4b HIERONYMUS / KUM AND GO REZONING - REZONING 0.85 -ACRES
FROM LOW DENSITY SINGLE - FAMILY (RS -5) ZONE AND 2.87 -
ACRES FROM LOW DENSITY MULTI - FAMILY (RM -12) ZONE TO
COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL (CC -2) ZONE FOR PROPERTY
LOCATED NORTH OF MUSCATINE AVENUE, WEST OF SCOTT
BOULEVARD. (REZ13- 00012) [Discussion only at formal meeting]
Hayek/ By the way, um ... Items 4a and 4b, we'll open up the public hearing. There's a request to
defer those items until August 20th. Um ... so I'll open up the public hearing, but if
somebody could make a motion as soon as we...
Mims/ To continue the public hearing?
Hayek/ To cont ... yeah, to continue the public hearing. Open it up and then continue it to (both
talking) August 20th, yeah.
Mims/ Okay.
Hayek/ 4a, 4b.
Karr / And defer the ordinances.
Mims / And defer the ordinances (both talking)
Hayek/ Yeah.
Mims/ Resolutions.
ITEM 4g HICKORY POINTE, 2nd ADDITION — RESOLUTION APPROVING
FINAL PLAT.
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Hayek/ And then I will, um, on 4g, which is a final plat for Hickory Pointe, I'll ... I need to recuse
myself. Somebody in my office had involvement with ... that paperwork. So ... Susan'll
take over.
ITEM 2b(8) Housing and Community Development Commission Minutes — May 7
Payne/ Um, I had another... question. It's on the Housing and Community Development
Commission meeting minutes of May 7th. It's on page 2 of 5, which is really on page 109
of our... document. It says, um ... let's see ... review of the FYI Annual Action Plan.
Said the Commission allocated them $20,000. They requested $250, or $2,500 to $5,000
be used for them to put up more exterior lighting. The original project was for lower
level improvements to their facility. Consensus was not to grant or recommend the
request. Why?
Hightshoe/ I think the consensus on the Commission was that the applicant applied for lower
level, um, renovations and that's what HCDC awarded them funding for. So they
basically were going to make no recommendation and they basically said they'd have to
take it up with Council if Council wanted to approve it, but they weren't going to ... make
recommendations.
Payne/ Okay. So it's just because they didn't want to reallocate what the funds were for.
Hightshoe/ Yeah! They felt it was a sufficient change in scope that that's not what they allocated
the money originally for.
Payne/ Thank you.
Hayek/ Thanks, Tracy, and congratulations to your daughter. Very nice press coverage!
ITEM 2f(12) Atty. James Houghton, rep. C & C Investments: Stevens Drive / South
Gilbert Street Flooding.
Mims/ On 2f(12), uh, that was, uh, the flooding on Stevens Drive and south Gilbert Street. Just
asking if there's been any staff response to that or anything.
Fosse/ Not yet, but we'll get that out.
Mims/ Okay. Okay.
Fosse/ That was ... just for your information, that was during the period of time when the storm
sewers were closed to prevent back -flow from the...
Mims/ Okay.
Fosse/ ...Iowa River and we had a pump failure that night.
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Mims/ Oh, okay.
Fosse/ So that was the primary cause. We'll get that (both talking)
Mims/ ...was the pump failure?
Fosse/ Yes.
Mims/ Okay. All right, thank you!
Fosse/ Uh huh.
Hayek/ Other agenda items?
ITEM 2b(9) Human Rights Commission — May 21
Payne/ Um ... I had a question on the ... it's the ... it's 2b(9), the memorandum from the, um...
Human Rights Commission. And it's a ... it's a recommendation, but it says, "Yes, but
Council action is not needed at this time, as further recommendations are forthcoming
relating to the same recommendation." So how can they have a recommendation that's
not a recommendation?
Dulek/ It was two parts, uh, to the issue and at the one meeting they approved staff's, uh ... uh,
recommendation or staff's suggestions, but they wanted some tweaking on the second
part of it, and so it wasn't a vote until the following meeting. So they did it in two parts
and they were dependent on each other. So that's kind of...
Payne/ So we'll get the recommendation...
Dulek/ All together, yes.
Payne/ (both talking)
Dulek/ Yes! Yes! As soon as they, uh, approve their final minutes. Stephanie's waiting til ...til
that but ... that's right.
Payne/ Okay! Thanks!
Hayek/ Anything else? Okay, so again, Jim, you'll do a motion, uh, to remove 2d(17)...
Throgmorton/ Uh huh.
Hayek/ ... for separate consideration.
Karr/ Just FYI, you can do that as part of a motion to adopt, removing it. As one. Adopting it...
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Hayek/ Why don't ... why don't I just read it. And then we'll do it (noises on mic) and then we'll
take up 2d(17) separately. So you don't... I'll... I'll tee it up, Jim. Okay. Um ... all right!
Next item is, uh, FY15 Aid to Agencies allocation process.
FY15 Aid to Agencies Allocation Process (IP3 of 7/18/13):
Hightshoe/ Hello! Um, Iowa City has historically allocated operational funding to non - profit
agencies in ... in the area that serve Iowa City residents. Up until about three years ago,
uh, Linda Severson, uh, the former, um, Human Service ... Human Service Planner for
JCCOG used to review the applications with a couple Members from Council and they
would allocate the funds and then present that recommendation to Council. Um, three
years ago the Council directed the Housing and Community Development Commission to
review the applications and to formulate a recommendation for your review. Since that
time there's always been concerns about who gets allocated the money and how much
money gets allocated. So the Commission... or the Council directed staff to come up with
some guidelines because so far ... HCDC has not had any Council guidelines on how to
allocate the funds. So what we did is we met with a subcommittee of the Housing and
Community Development Commission and then presented their recommendations to the
full Commission at their last meeting, and I drafted that ... this memo for you that
basically said what they recommend on how we allocate the money, and staff did approve
that. It's going from a process of basically allocating funds based on the old way and the
certain percentage of increase or decrease of how much money we had. Um, we do get
the money through Community Development Block Grant funds, general fund and utility
user fees. That's the money that we used to allocate out. And so we wanted to, and the
Commission supported, moving our allocation priorities to more those that we already
have a planning document for public service funds, and so to moving more of our
planning to ... to be similar to the City STEPS or Consolidate Plan document, and fund at
least 80% of our funds to high priorities in City STEPS, um ... basically we're still ... they
recommended open process, so that anyone can still apply, um, but 80% of the money —
could be a new applicant, could be non, could be existing agency, but 80% of the funds
would be dedicated to agencies that meet one of those high priority needs, and then 20%
would be available for agencies that meet a lower, medium City STEPS priority need.
We also discussed the impact the funds and um, there have been some Council and
HCDC Commission Member concerns about allocating too little and what an impact that
can make, so ... they set $5,000 as a minimum allocation award. So out of that funds, we
would allow anybody to apply, but minimum allocation is $5,000 cause there's three or
four agencies that get $1,500, $2,000, and we question about what type of impact that
actually makes to the agency in addressing the needs that we identify. Um. ... we
encourage innovative, collaborative, um, projects that avoid duplication of services so
that when we allocate money we're not duplicating service among agencies that basically
serve the same clientele or with the same project. Um, our high priorities in City STEPS
are crime prevention awareness, childcare, youth services, financial literacy, substance
abuse, mental health services, life skills, employment training, and homeless services,
especially as it relates to housing. Um, those were the recommendations that were made.
Um, and we're hoping that the Council set some direction, approve or tweak. Um, we
wanted your input, and then United Way ... when agencies apply, they're applying
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through the United Way Joint Funding process, so they're not only applying for Iowa
City funds but they're also applying for United Way, Johnson County, and Coralville
funding. Um, United Way wanted an earlier process this year, so they want to start
advertising those funds as of July 24, as of tomorrow. So that's why we were kind of
rushed to get these recommendations for you so that we could, when we start accepting
applications, applicants know that if they're applying for Iowa City money, these are the
funding priorities and the criteria that we're looking at.
Champion/ Well I'm really pleased that they are setting some criteria and I like the idea of
starting with a larger amount, has a low limit or a high... whatever you call it, but a limit.
Hightshoe/ Minimum allocation?
Champion/ $5,000 allocation. I do really like the part of duplication of services cause that was
really part of my problem with your last allocation. I wasn't really ... and I also don't like
the idea just because you receive money the last time you should get more money this
time. And I'm glad to see they're willing to look at that.
Hightshoe/ It'll be a change, and there might be some agencies that are upset by the new...
Champion/ Oh I'm sure. There's always people upset anyway, but I do ... those were things that I
thought were important when I was sitting on that group (mumbled) Council people to
allocate that money. Uh, I also... however, do think that's something you didn't cover
was I don't think if you don't qualify for United Way, I don't think they should qualify
for these funds. Cause there's usually a pretty good reason why they don't qualify for
United Way. Just something I'm throwing out there! Some of those agencies do not
qualify for United Way, mainly because of duplication of services.
Dobyns/ Tracy, is there some language in these, um, rec ... recommendations that would
preference groups that don't have an established track record of grantsmanship, grant
writing, um...
Hightshoe/ Just because there (mumbled) priority we would look at impact and um, capacity.
There's some organizations that just don't have the capacity to ... they might address a
high need, but if we feel there's been pro ... past problems, staff 11 bring out those
concerns. So just because you're a high priority doesn't mean ... or you're addressing a
high priority need doesn't mean you're going to get full funding or any funding,
especially if we've had documented problems in the past.
Dobyns/ I ... I'm thinking of groups, organizations that might be applying for a first or second
time, don't have an established record of successional granting. Because they ... they're
naive to the process, they're not very fis... sophisticated, but the intention would be bring
new blood into the process and give them that experience and a chance that they too don't
...you know, if it's reasonable.
Hightshoe/ Uh huh.
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Dobyns/ And I was reading through this and I ... I didn't see a sense that there might be that
opportunity, to preference groups, um ... in a small way.
Hightshoe/ We didn't set aside funds for... for new applicants or ones that haven't received
funding, um, for several years. But it is an open process, so they would consider it,
um ... there's no guarantee that they're just gonna ... you have to be in that funding, um,
cycle for so long and keep getting money. So I think this Commission really likes new,
innovative ideas and they would consider it and they would fund it. We just don't have a
set aside amount for new agencies or...
Dobyns/ But new, innovative ideas sometimes come from new people.
Hightshoe/ Uh huh.
Dobyns/ As opposed to people who've been in the process for a while. I mean it's not
necessarily that way but (both talking)
Champion/ Well they're leaving 20% on ... they're leaving 20 %.
Hightshoe/ Oh, no, anybody. A new agency could be part of-the 80% are just for those projects
that address a high priority need.
Champion/ Okay. Okay.
Hightshoe/ 20% of those projects that are medium or low, that means anybody. Doesn't ... you
could be a new or existing agency.
Dobyns/ Like Jim was talking about diversity in commissions, this would bring diversity into
granting opportunities.
Hightshoe/ Uh huh.
Mims/ I think, Rick, one of the important things is, I mean I think it's important for new people
to have the opportunity and one of the things ... I know Jim and I were both at the ... the,
uh, the Racial Justice thing this afternoon, and listened to that - the Coalition for Racial
Justice. And one of their comments was about, you know, some of this money going to
organizations that are actually run by minorities for minorities in the community, and I
think that's a real positive thing. I think what's important for anybody who's putting
forth an application, is that whether they're new or have been doing it before that it is
well put together and they have a good "business plan" of how, you know, how they're
going to utilize that money, and I don't care whether they're black, white, pink or purple,
I mean, we're talking about giving out tax dollars, whether it's Iowa City, state, federal,
whatever that ... if they're going to ask for the money, whether they're new or old to the
process, they need to have a good plan in place that we can look at and feel like it has a
pretty good chance of...of success in terms of having some impact. Um, I think what that
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also lends itself to, just as Jim brought up earlier about reaching out in terms of, um, you
know, membership on commissions and stuff, you know, as we start getting into some of
these other discussions, more, uh, outreach and... and this is a whole bigger picture, but
some leadership training and stuff for people who haven't done these sorts of things
before, on how to do it and how to get involved.
Dobyns/ And I'm suggest ... my suggestion is that ... and I think the majority of money should go
toward those sorts of efforts, but the impact isn't necessarily in the, um, actual, you
know, the project. It's sometimes in the people ... that put it forth, even if the project isn't
...and I'm not saying we should go after something that's really poor. But, just some
preferencing, because I think that's ... (mumbled) diversify the opportunities, um, for
these sorts of things. And I didn't...
Hightshoe/ Well since we're putting guidelines, and tomorrow they'll be advertised, uh, is there
a certain percentage that Council wants to see dedicated just to new only... applicants?
Mims/ No (several responding) I don't ... cause I want to see the quality, I mean, I want to make
sure the quality is there, as well.
Hayek/ I think this is... a... a modest, uh... ef... you know, improvement in terms of... imposing
some discipline and ... and structure to the process, and you know, it ... based on my
experience on HCDC years ago, and maybe things have changed since then, there were a
lot of categories that are classified as high need, um, and so ... you know, it really runs the
gamut, and I don't think it'd be very hard for a particular agency, I mean, odds are any
agency involved in this sector of the community is doing something that already... checks
a box.
Hightshoe/ We did put a caveat that 50% of your agency budget (mumbled) (noise on mic)
address any...
Hayek/ Yeah!
Hightshoe/ ... cause we were worried about that, that you know because they have one program
offered, two hours of programming a year, and saying that they're high priority.
Hayek/ And I liked to see that but ... but I think this is a good step, and if we need more structure
and discipline going forward, we can always revisit this.
Throgmorton/ (mumbled)
Champion/ I really appreciate the Commission doing this!
Hayek/ Jim?
Throgmorton/ Like to echo some points that have been made. I agree with Rick about
recognizing that, uh, our popu ... the population of Iowa City's changed significantly over
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the last 15 -plus years, and we need to be adapting to that change. Uh, also agree with
Susan that we need to think about the efficiency with which we use the limited resources
we have. So ... completely on -board with both of those things. Uh, and I'm really pleased
to see that the staff has worked with the Commission to come up with recommended
guidelines, uh, that it would follow. I am aware from conversations with commission
members that .... and reading the minutes, that ... they were feeling some considerable
frustration. So, it's a good thing! Uh, I do have one question that has to do with, uh,
well, the question is, I wonder what ... no, what ... what's the relationship between the
guidelines and the strategic plan? Or the strategic planning priorities that, uh, we have
adopted, and adopt every two years. I ... I'm aware that the ... the guidelines as currently
drafted refer to City STEPS and so on. But I don't see any direct connection to the
strategic planning priorities. So I wonder if there's...
Markus/ There's certainly a statement that could be added to them.
Throgmorton/ Sorry?
Markus/ There ... there is ... certainly a statement could be added to them that makes reference to
the strategic plan. How do they ... how do they respond to that?
Hightshoe/ There is a sentence in the application that says `how do you address the strategic,' or
when we do CDBG and Home applications of how it addresses the strategic plan. Most
say through neighborhood stabilization or through just in general community and
economic development efforts.
Mims/ That's what I was going to say, as I look at these high priorities, the bulk of them, I think,
you could easily say have to do with neighborhood stabilization.
Hayek/ And the consolidated plan is really a function of the federal requirements.
Hightshoe/ Yes, you have to have a consolidated plan to get the CDBG and Home funds. It's a
requirement by HUD (both talking)
Mims/ ...point, Jim, in terms of (both talking)
Hayek/ Yeah!
Mims/ ...try and tie more and more stuff to the City's strategic plan, to make that more clear.
Throgmorton/ Yeah.
Hayek/ Okay! Let's keep moving here. Thank you, Tracy! (several responding)
Hightshoe/ So these are the guidelines that we send to the United Way to put in the ... okay!
Hayek/ Go for it!
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Mims/ Sounds good!
Hayek/ Next item — discuss petition related to bar entry age, IP #4.
Referendum Seeking Repeal of Ord. No. 10 -4388 Which Changed the Bar Entry Age From
Nineteen (19) to Twenty -One (21) (IP4 of 7/18/13):
Mims/ Put it on the November ballot!
Champion/ Put it in the November ballot.
Payne/ Ditto!
Dickens/ Ditto!
Dobyns/ Yes!
Champion/ Done!
Karr/ We'll have the resolution on your August 6th meeting. Would you like to articulate
anything to include in the resolution?
Dulek/ Right, cause there's two issues, right? The question is whether you want to put it on the
ballot, and then the question is whether you want to pass a resolution to that effect.
Um... in support or against.
Mims/ Against.
Champion/ Against.
Dulek/ Right, but I ... you, what Marian was saying is there some, um, direction you can give us
in drafting the recitals for that resolution as to what it is that you want to say in that
resolution.
Mims/ That the 21, uh, the 19 -entry age has been very successful, that as you look at a lot of the
statistics, uh, it has decreased the drinking...
Payne/ Downtown!
Mims/ ... downtown (both talking)
Payne/ (laughs) ...everywhere, but downtown it has!
Mims/ Uh, no longer as much of a destination community for underage drinkers. Urn ... I don't
know if...I don't know if we want to go to the extent of saying that this whole thing is
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premised by the bar owners who want to make more money. (several responding)
(laughs)
Dobyns/ I think we should say that.
Champion/ Yeah, say it, cause it's true!
Mims/ The ... the Student Government is against it. The ... the DI editorial page is against it.
And ... we think it is better for our community to continue it. So it's some pretty rough
language but those are some of the key ideas that I think are important.
Dobyns/ And the rough language, I mean, it's not about student welfare. Uh, it's about students
and their money, and that's what it's about.
Throgmorton/ Yeah, I ... I personally don't think we need to have, uh, any accusatory language or
whatever (both talking)
Mims/ I know (laughs)
Throgmorton/ ...but we need to accentuate the positive features associated with what's been
accomplished so far and ... and to be as clear as possible about those particular effects.
Dobyns/ Well one of the positive features, I think, is that um, this Council has modified the 21-
ordinance, um, where it needs to be modified. This is not one of those areas. (several
responding)
Champion/ You can say whatever you want. I'm going to support it! (laughter)
Hayek/ Sue, I think you got ... I think you probably got more...
Dulek/ Yes! (laughter) Thank you!
Hayek/ ...uh, but I think we would all defer to...
Mims/ To Legal.
Hayek/ ...a reasonable, appropriate, um ... resolution that ... that focuses on ... on these positive
aspects and talks about the stability and safety, and I think you can look to the fairly
recent report from the Partnership for Alcohol Safety, which has some, uh, I think some
language there so...
Dobyns/ That enough direction for you, Sue?
Dulek/ Yes! (several talking and laughing)
Mims/ ...more than she wanted!
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Hayek/ Okay, review of succession plan! IP5.
Review of City's Draft Succession Plan (IP5 of 7/18/13):
Champion/ It didn't include Council Members in that (mumbled)
Hayek/ All right!
Mims/ Those are called elections! (laughter)
Markus/ That'll be in the appendix!
Bentley/ Members of the City Council, my name is Adam Bentley. I'm with the City Manager's
office in Iowa City. Uh, one of the priorities that we've been working on in the City
Manager's office is to develop a succession plan for the city organization. Um, it's
something that I think, uh, you chatted about with Tom, um, many of you remember
chatting about with Tom when he first started here and it's been a priority of his and our
office, um, since. Uh, we've been working on it for about the last eight months or so, and
um, while we don't necessarily expect that you'd have any, uh, actionable items to work
on, um, a resolution per se, uh, we would be interested in your feedback since this is
currently a draft copy of ... of what the succession plan is. Um, so that should look better
than what it does, so I will go ahead and... and use what I have here. (laughter) Um...
Payne/ You shouldn't be in a succession plan then! (laughter)
Bentley/ Uh ... think about a succession plan essentially as just a strategic plan for ensuring that
we have the right people filling, uh, the right jobs. It allows us to, um, integrate
organizational values. It allows us to evaluate employees, based on those values, and not
just essentially off of some of the things that we've done in the past, like just how long
they've been with us. Um, succession plans can be as simple as something as creating
professional development tools for employees but they can be as complex as creating
classes and training opportunities within the organization itself. Um, and so what we did
is we looked at, uh, different models across the country and tried to fit what we thought
was best for Iowa City, um, given our current cir ... circumstances. Um, it's important to
note the demographics of our employees before we kind of get into, um ... uh, why these
demographics matter. Uh, the average age of any given Iowa City employee is about 45,
median age 46. Um ... if you look at the age distribution there in the center, you'll see
that roughly those 60 or above represent about 10% of our organization. Uh, 55 or above
represent 23% of our organization. Uh, those 50 or older, 256, and those 45 ... are 40% of
our organization, and those 45 or older represent about 53% of our organization. The
average years of service is about 13.6 years, median about 11.7, and a maximum of about
42.4, and I do not know who that is but that's a ... that's a good chunk of time (several
talking and laughing)
Hayek/ Not you Adam!
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Bentley/ Marian?
Karr/ Not quite! (laughter) But thank you! (laughter)
Bentley/ So when we looked at, uh, re ... retirement eligibility, you really need to keep in mind
with the ... with those demographics in mind, you really need to think about essentially the
three ways someone can retire, uh, normally retire within the IPERS system. Essentially
it's, uh, the 55 -plus service rule to get to the magic 88, uh, so that would be your age plus
your service must equal 88. Um, the number 88. The second way to do it is your age
must be 62 and you must have 20 years of service in, or you must be at age 65. So if you
think about those demographics, you'd have ... this slide essentially sows... shows, and
was calculated, based on which of the three requirements would be achieved first. So,
23% of our city employees are currently able to meet one of those requirements. Right
now. Almost a quarter of our employees can do that right now. 40% of our city
employees are retirement eligible or will meet one of those requirements within the next
five years and the average city employee within ten years will be able to meet that req...
one of those requirements. Uh, specifically, we have three areas that are, um, are kind of
our strategic or immediate challenges. Um, Public Works has a number of... of, uh,
positions in their ... in their department that, uh, are retirement or will be retirement
eligible, uh, within a, uh, short duration of time. Our department heads, uh, have been
here for 15 or plus, 20, 15 to plus years or so, um, many of them have been, and certainly
the same goes for our division heads. And so we need a way to be able to organize our
internal staff, to be able to orient them, um, so that we can have future leaders in our
organization take these important positions. Um, so there's two steps to our succession
plan that we went through. First was developing a set of organization values that we
think, uh, the future employee of Iowa City should express. Um ... we ... this ... City staff
went through, and by City staff I mean executive team, our department heads, the City
Manager's office, and certain division heads were, um ... uh, chosen to participate in a, in
a facilitated process by, uh, with a company known as the Pacific Institute, and uh, as a
staff we ... we came up with, uh, specific, uh, values that we thought the future employee,
Iowa City employee, should espouse to have, should ... the minimum standards
essentially. They should show integrity. They should do essentially as they say. They
should be honest. They should be clear. They should be reflective. So they should be
able to communicate. Uh, they should show leadership, meaning that they should see the
whole picture or they should empower others. They should show inspiration by showing
faith in their team and ... and they don't quit before they start. Uh, and they should
practice what they learn, and they should evaluate and adjust, which would be life -long
learning. And so when you look at that chart to the right -hand side, you see that those
values, uh, are pointing towards a chart that says like, for instance, recruitment and
selection, new hire orientation, performance review process. It's our goal over the course
of the integration period to integrate these values into the different components of our
organization so that all the employees know what these values mean, that they'll be
evaluated on them, and that they are expected to meet those values and have those
minimum... those minimum value thresholds, essentially. Um ... let's see ... another part,
the second part of the succession plan is creating an approach for employee development.
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That offers the employee opportunities for professional development oriented toward the
individual employee's career goals. Um, currently there hasn't really been a system to do
that. It's been very ... I would say it's been very fractured across the organization with
departments using their own performance review processes, their own ways of
establishing their goals, and so one of the things that we needed to do was we needed to,
um, standardize that process, and make sure that everyone was on the same page. And so
we created ... what we did is we identified all of the competencies in every position. We
have that already actually, and um, we integrate those values into their position
descriptions over time. Um, we created a professional development tool which allows
employees to, if they chose to participate in this program, um, they can set their own
goals for professional development, working with their supervisor, which allows them the
opportunity to orient their professional development towards whatever their goal is
and ... and so, uh, that was ... they participate in that process at step 2. At step 3, they
ensure ... we ensure that this is a living document, that that process is reviewed on an
annual basis, typically with their performance review process, uh, so that they know, and
that we know, that they're advancing in their ... in their career, and that they're advancing,
uh, and growing as a professional. And then of course step 4 is we evaluate our
succession plan, the strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats, to that plan for...
for not only the organization but also for each individual department. So, uh, just to kind
of give you a little bit of an overview, uh, it hasn't been finalized yet. Uh, review by
Council. We expect that Tom will approve the plan, uh, after we hear from, um, what
you have to say in your comments, um, the idea to .....would be to create a succession
plan task force to help begin the integration process and then, um, begin formal
implementation of our plan and ... and uh, start ... start with it. So other than that, uh,
hopefully that was quick enough (several talking) If you have any questions, um, be
more than happy to answer `em.
Payne/ So as part of this plan, will you take each position and say there's somebody within the
organization that could fill this position, and they're either ready, they need more
development, or they aren't ... they aren't eligible for this position for whatever reason.
Bentley/ I don't think anything as specific as that. Um, what essentially... each position will
have, uh, its own position description, which it currently does now. Each position has its
own core competency that you have to have. Um, the values will be integrated into
position descriptions, and because employees are going to be evaluated on those values,
that will give, uh, I would say the interviewers or... or those who are reviewing the
position a better idea of how that employee has, um ... how they have interacted within the
organization, rather than just currently a lot of it is how long they've been here. And we
need ... we need to look at more than just the timeframe they've been here. So it's not...
it's not a situation where they ... will either get it or they won't. It ... it could just ... it just
kind of gives you a better feel of how each employee will fit within that position.
Markus/ Talk about the evaluation form itself and how that's being upgraded.
Bentley/ So like I was, uh, like I said, each department for the most part has had their own
evaluation process. Um, and so what we've seen is we've seen a very fractured system
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within the organization. And so what ... what we've done is we've, like I said, we've
looked at a number of different communities and we've standardized that process. So
that every department is working on the same form with the same information on it. And
it covers... it's... it's the same form but each position has its own individual core
competency, and that is how we customize that form. We look at the core competency
of, you know, my position, what ... the five things that I know I have to do, and that goes
into the form and I'm evaluated on those five things. But I'm also evaluated on standard
things. Like things like the strategic plan, uh, customer service, communication, things
like the values that we just talked about, um, and then I'm also within that document, I'm
also given professional ... I ... I can also develop my own professional development goals
and I can t ... discuss that with Tom or Geoff, um, and then every annual, uh, professional
review, I can go and review my professional development goals with Tom and it's a
living and breathing document.
Champion/ So, Adam, it was my understanding that this'd be done for everybody. What is your
kind of goal? Do you have a future goal?
Bentley/ Yeah, the goal is ... (both talking)
Champion/ ...you will help them achieve that if it's possible.
Bentley/ The...
Champion/ I mean, you provide...
Bentley/ (mumbled) for our goal, for the organization's goal, is to ensure that we have a strong
group of candidates (both talking)
Champion/ Right!
Bentley/ ...to select from when we're looking at key positions. Um, for the employee's goal, for
the individual, you know ... you can't obviously tell the individual that they're guaranteed
a j ob.
Champion/ Oh no! But they might have a (both talking)
Bentley/ ...you can prepare them ... you can prepare them to ... for their goals by helping them
grow.
Champion/ Right! They might ... right, they might ... their goal might be to improve something
they're doing in their job.
Bentley/ Exactly!
Champion/ (both talking) ...particular job.
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Bentley/ Or ... if I'm talking with Tom (both talking)
Champion/ I'm sorry! I would hope we'd provide them the opportunity to do that improvement.
Bentley/ Yes! Yep, so if I'm talking with Tom and he says to me, Adam, you need to work on
your presentation skills like your PowerPoint skills (laughter) urn ... then it would be one
of my professional development goals to, um, improve those skills, and I would be
offered maybe three opportunities or a training class to do that...
Champion/ Okay, okay!
Bentley/ ... and then I would be reviewed on that, over the next year, so... essentially.
Throgmorton/ Maybe I could pick up on that point about your presentation skills, Adam (laughs)
I'm only kidding!
Bentley/ I know!
Throgmorton/ Um, I ... with regard to the draft, I'd like to see you on ... sort of clarify what...
what's meant by communication, as a value. I ... I don't know what it means to
communicate as a value. I do know what it means to communicate skillfully, as ... as a
value. I ... much as you do, even though I was joking about your presentation skills. So
uh, I would encourage you to kind of revise it to talk about communicating skillfully,
and ... and then I'd really ... under the category of communicating skillfully, I'd really
want to see it emphasized the ability to listen actively, instead of just listen. You know,
it's ... there's a huge difference between doing the two. So that's just a couple
suggestions I'd like to toss your way. One other one, it's ... this is more in the line of, uh,
of some of the suggestions that Michelle occasionally makes. On page five you write, the
supervisor will meet with each direct report to review development needs and
opportunities. And it took me a while to in ... infer what a direct report was. (laughter
and several talking) All right, so ... I ... I'd suggest you revise that a little bit.
Bentley/ Okay!
Payne/ You don't call `em that at the University?
Throgmorton/ I don't! No! (laughter)
Champion/ I do like Jim's comment about communication and what is ... what it is, I like that
extra, what'd you call it?
Throgmorton/ Communicate skillfully or actively listen (several talking)
Champion/ I do like that!
Mims/ The only other ... I know we're running short of time. The only other thing...
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Hayek/ Got about ten minutes here.
Mims/ ...I would add to this, and I understand completely that ... that this is a succession
document, okay? It does not ... and it addresses what we're doing with our current
employees, and I don't know what's being done ... I know I've talked with you a little bit,
Tom, off and on, but ... I think it ... we also kind of need a companion document or
processes and procedures as to what we are doing in terms of recruiting for more
diversity within our City staff. Because ... in my opinion while this is a great document, if
we continue to have a 99% white staff for the next 20 years, then this succession plan is
not good because we're not representing our community. And so it's great for the staff
that's in place, but we need that companion document that is really going to give us an
action plan through internships, through whatever we can do to start bringing in some
people and getting some training for a more diverse, uh, workforce going forward, and so
I'd ... would really like to see that as kind of a companion piece at some point.
Markus/ One of the things that we've had quite a bit of discussion about is, uh, with the Police
and Fire department, and developing some of the youth connections and then progressing,
um ... minority candidates potentially into the process. It's a challenge, uh, quite frankly
to ... to get, uh, minority candidates into the ... into the cycle to begin with. And we
thought if you get to the youth, maybe you have a better chance of getting, uh, the youth,
uh, interested in those professions and ... and jobs, um ... and then potentially getting them
to the point where they apply and are successful in the process. You'd be surprised how
little, through civil service and through the recruitment efforts, um, minority candidates
we do get.
Mims / And that's why I think we have to take a very, uh... (both talking)
Markus/ Some of the efforts right now are pretty aggressive in terms of that, and... and quite
frankly if we can ... we can get some suggestions and advice on where to reach out. I
think to ... that some of the, urn ... provisions in how you hire in the state, um ... quite
frankly need to be changed or tweaked a little bit so that we have an opportunity to bring
in more minority candidates.
Mims/ Couple other things, and I ... I know we're, as I said, short but ... the related to that is, um,
taking a `grow your own' approach and I think, you know, the academy type thing that
you're talking about with Police and Fire, do that, and, um... somebody with the
University just asked me a couple days ago, does the City do any kind of internship
program, and you know, that might be another way that we could start...
Hayek/ There's one right there!
Mims/ Yeah.
Markus/ We have interns run throughout the entire operation.
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Hayek/ Yeah, that's a good point.
Markus/ Planning, uh, Manager's office, uh, there's a number of...I think there's an intern down
in Legal. So...
Mims/ So...
Throgmorton/ Well I certainly agree with the point that Susan was making, that the ... the main
point, and uh, I ... a suggestion I would make is to reach out to minority members of our
community that we already have very good contacts with and ask them for advice. You
know, maybe that's already been done. I'm not...
Markus/ We've had communications in that regard.
Throgmorton/ ...yeah.
Payne/ And... one other...
Markus / Any suggestions we'll take!
Payne/ Sorry! One other comment that I have, does the City have a mentoring program? Where
...where somebody like in your position is assigned somebody else and they're your
mentor and...
Bentley/ You know, not ... not, I've seen it done in other, in larger communities I've seen it done.
Um, I ... I, we don't have one here. It's certainly a part of the, um, it's certainly a part of
the integration process, coaching and mentoring, um, but we don't currently have a
program.
Markus/ I think that's a role that many of the department heads and administrative staff already
play, and I think you'll find that the, um ... department heads — it isn't just a one -way
street where individuals kind of determine that, you know, they might like to accede to a
higher position in the operation. I think your department heads and your administrative
staff are constantly looking at their staff about who would, you know, who has that kind
of leadership knack and ... and could that skill be developed, uh, with ... with some of our
current employees. Potentially moving them up in the organization. But I ... again, if...if
we're gonna ... if we're gonna be successful in diversifying the staff, we have to find ways
at the entry level, to be more successful at the entry level and get that base staff
established (several responding) in a diversified way.
Throgmorton/ Right.
Markus/ We have not had success in that, and I can tell you... other places in the country have
more discretion in how they go about bringing employees in. We have a fairly rigid
system in this state, in terms of civil service, and some other provisions, which I think
probably should be looked at, maybe on a statewide basis, as well.
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Hayek/ Okay.
Markus/ We could have that discussion at... and, uh, have Karen Jennings come in and talk about
that a little. That has posed some challenges for us.
Hayek/ Okay.
Champion/ I never thought about it.
Hayek/ Well, thanks for this in... input and presentation. Interesting discussion.
Champion/ Yes, thank you.
Information Packets:
Hayek/ We've got six minutes and then we need to disband. Um, so let's �et through the Info
Packets if we can, uh ... there are five of them. First one is June 20 . Any questions
regarding that one?
Throgmorton/ Think I read something about ... it's IP3, Badges for Baseball program.
Mims/ Yep.
Throgmorton/ And I'd just like to ... it sounds like a great initiative and I want to praise the Police
department and the Chief for participating in it.
Hayek/ Okay, uh, June 27th. Anything there? Okay. July 3`d. Anything on that one?
Markus/ Nobody had any comments on the `rent a chicken ?' (laughter)
Champion/ Oh! (laughter)
Dobyns/ In the interest of time I just did want to mention that, uh (several talking and laughing)
and I are both, uh, calling them up and... (several talking)
Hayek/ Uh ... July 10th. It's actually July 11th
Mims/ Just interesting, IP3 on the multi - family recycling and...
Hayek/ Yeah!
Mims/ ...how much interest there is in that and so hope we can see that grow.
Hayek/ Okay, and then July, uh, 18th
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Markus/ Backing up to what Susan just commented on, we were touring a multi - family
development in the downtown today, and they talked about implementing a recycling
program in their building as a marketing tool. (several responding) People, they see that
as a positive in bringing people (several talking)
Hayek/ Marian, should we do the KXIC right now since (both talking)
Karr/ Uh, yes, and Council Member Throgmorton had indicated he was interested in the 21St, so
we have the 7th of August of 31 st of July.
Hayek/ The only one I can do is the 21St, but if Jim wants it, that's fine. I can't do, uh, the other
ones. (several talking and laughing)
Champion/ You can have it! (laughs)
Hayek/ So we need someone for the 31St of July and the 7th of August.
Champion/ I can do either one. I'm ... I'm really flexible, so I don't usually (both talking)
Mims/ I can do the 31 st
Champion/ ...I don't usually speak up. I just wait for what's ever left over.
Karr/ August 7th Champion.
Payne/ I have a ... on ... on August 31St, that won't interfere with our Executive Session we're
going to have?
Hayek/ July 31St you mean?
Payne/ I mean July, yeah, sorry.
Karr/ I don't know yet. We'll have to see.
Payne/ So we'll just have to skip it if...
Karr/ I'll have to ... (several talking) we'll have to see (several talking)
Dickens/ ...double teamed it since I showed up (several talking) so we had quite the duo going
on there so.
Champion/ August 7th, is that when ... what I volunteered for?
Karr/ Yes.
Hayek/ Okay. Got `em?
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Dickens/ I'm there tomorrow.
Hayek/ All right.
Dobyns/ Do you want company?
Hayek/ Council time. Okay.
Council Time:
Bramel/ I've got a little something for you, real ... I'll make it as fast as possible. Uh, I just
wanted to clarify something real fast. Um, the, uh, UIC Student Government has not
made a, uh, any, um, we're staying neutral on the 21 subject, for right now. Uh, that vote
will come when the Senate, when the time ... when the time comes. As of right now, we
are, um, neutral on the subject, but we do have the luxury, obviously, of knowing what
the Council thinks, so we're thankful for that, so ... but we just wanted to make that clear.
Mims/ Okay, thanks for clarifying that!
Bramel/ No problem. (several talking)
Hayek/ Meeting schedule.
Throgmorton/ What happened to Council time?
Hayek/ Plenty of `em. We already had Council time, but if some...
Throgmorton/ Did we? (several talking)
Hayek/ Go ahead! Yeah. He was part of it. Any other Council time?
Throgmorton/ ...kind of blew right past me. Like Susan and Adam, uh, and maybe some others,
I went to the Coalition for Racial Justice meeting today and I ... I found it quite
enlightening and instructive and, uh, I'm sure there'll be substantial coverage of it in the
Gazette and the Press - Citizen and some TV, as well, right? The other thing is, uh, it's a
question I'm just going to toss out to Tom or somebody. It doesn't have to be answered
right now. I ... I'm noticing the new outdoor seating on the Linn Street side of Formosa,
and the spacing is might narrow for people on the sidewalk, and I'm puzzled by that.
Markus/ We'll take a look at it.
Throgmorton/ ...take a look.
Hayek/ Thanks, Jim. Any other Council items? Okay, meeting schedule. You'll get back to us
on the...
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Karr/ Uh huh.
Hayek/ ... Executive?
Karr/ Uh huh.
Hayek/ Okay.
Karr/ Then, Mr. Mayor, do you want, you wanted to be reminded about the request from Council
Member Throgmorton to schedule low income housing discussion, on the pending list?
Hayek/ Oh, right! Uh ... so ... you had suggested for the joint agenda that we take up with the
other local governments the ongoing issue with which we continue to be frustrated,
regarding... subsidized housing and... and participation by the various local municipalities
toward addressing those needs and things like that, and we discussed having the Council
take it up at a work session, get a message straight, maybe get some data, and then going
back to future joint meetings. So if everybody's all right with that...
Dobyns/ Is that MPOJC we're talking about?
Hayek/ No, it's joint meeting next week, but we're not proposing to do it next week, but instead
at the ... not at the next joint meeting but the following one, after the Council has talked.
So what we're asking is can we get it on a work session?
Payne/ Yes.
Karr/ Put it on the pending list.
Throgmorton/ Yeah, and just great, and just to be clear, I ... I didn't mean to limit it, simply to
subsidized housing, but to low to moderate income housing, which could include... would
include subsidized housing.
Pending Work Session Topics [IP #71:
Hayek/ Yeah. Okay! Okay, uh, pending work session topics — we just talked about that, unless
there's anything anyone else wants to add.
Upcoming Events /Invites
Hayek/ Upcoming events, invites.
Mims/ ICAD annual meeting, if people ... it was in our packet, if anybody's interested make sure
you let Marian know. I've ... (mumbled)
Payne/ (mumbled) date is that again, do you remember?
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Dickens/ August 2 9thq .
Mims/ August 291h
Karr/ I believe it's the 29th, yeah.
Hayek/ Great. Okay. We made it. Let's take a ten - minute break and come back for the formal.
Thank you!
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