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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2018-12-04 Transcription Page 1 7. Community Comment(items not on the agenda) Throgmorton: This is a moment when anyone who would like to address us about any topic that's not on the formal meeting agenda should feel free to come up.:..come up to the podium, state your name, address that topic, and please do not take more than five minutes to do so. Jaynes: Hello! Throgmorton: Good evening! Jaynes: I'm Allison Jaynes,um, Iowa City resident and I'm going to bring up the matter of the,um, control of the deer population once again. Uh, we have a few representatives here from Iowa City Deer Friends and I just wanted to ask again since we've heard,uh, silence from the Council, if there's anything more that we needed to provide to you, um,that would maybe get a response in terms of moving forward with non-lethal methods of deer population control, i.e. sterilization. Um,we've provided a lot of information, entire correspondence, many pages of information, and.we're willing to do the work. We have several people here,but we have a lot more people that don't,show up to these meetings because they're,um,.not able to. We're just more the face of it. And so we're hopingto hear something from you so that we can get a yes, move forward with, um, making a larger plan so that we can provide that to you for consideration, or you know, I know that we're gonna go ahead with different means of population control. Throgmorton: Geoff,have we reached out to the State in terms of,uh, determining the details about whether we can do sharpshooting or can do bow and arrow....must do bow and row or anything like that that pertains to this topic? Frain: We are going to be on the December agenda, and I don't have a specific date,but I'd be happy to get it to you. The...the December agenda for the,uh, State board that,um,would license us,um, for sharpshooting. So we've applied for a sharpshooting authorization or permit. Um,we should hear in December whether that's granted or not. Jaynes: Okay,let me also say that in parallel we can also be working,uh, to make a plan for the non-lethal means of population control,urn, from our side,that we can present to you for consideration for maybe, urn, a future,um, implementation in This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4,2018. Page 2 addition to if you're definitely settled on the sharpshooting to control the population this season. Maybe for the future we can provide that to you. Throgmorton: Well it would seem, uh, I wanna see if there's concurrence among the Council. It seems to me if you want to provide us with some information about(mumbled) complementary approach that we could use, uh.....knowing that we intend to do some....culling of the herd. Jaynes: Uh huh. Throgmorton: Um, that that would be reasonable. I don't know, does that sound reasonable from a staff point of view? Fruin: Yeah, in, uh, keep in mind there is a Deer Commission, uh, that is not only going to be looking at, you know,the....the short-term needs, but also the long-term needs. So it'd be appropriate to work with that group too. Jaynes: Okay. Thank you. Throgmorton: Thank you, Allison. Would anyone else like to address us on any topic that's not on the formal meeting agenda? Good evening, Brandon! Ross: Good evening, Council, Mayor. I, uh, I come here tonight and, uh, I see a.....I see a flag at half-mast and.....I see a flag at half-mast. I see a flag at half-mast for children who are in poverty and have nothing to eat. I see a flag at half-mast.... for the cuts in education and programs, so that tax money may be cut and the money can be given to the rich. I see a flag in half-mast for those who are walking our streets without a home. I see a flag at half-mast for....those with not enough food. For the black people who have been shot, for the simple reason of the color of their skin. For the Jewish people who have been shot in this country, for the simple belief that they have in their religion. I see the flag at half-mast, I see the flag at half-mast for all the children who have had to suffer....by the hundreds of thousands.....by the bombs which have been manufactured in the United States, and deployed by the people we consider our government. I see the flag at half-mast....for the unevenness of the wealth in this country that we call a democracy. I see the flag at half-mast for that democracy. I see the flag at half- mast for those who cannot get from one place to the other because of a handicap or because there's no....there's no transportation. I see the flag at half-mast for the women who suffer without programs to help them,who cannot take care of their children.....who cannot feed their children. I see the flag at half-mast. I see This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4, 2018. Page 3 the flag at half-mast for all the language that is said, about how great a country and a community can be,but whose words from its own people fall on deaf ears. I see the flag at half-mast. I see the flag at half-mast and I ask myself....whose flag is this? For whom is the flag lowered? I see the flag at half-mast for all of us, in this time. I see the flag at half-mast for those who are suffering in the fires of California. Those who have died already, because....of the interests of a small group of oil companies and others encouraging global warming. I see the flag at half-mast.....for the un-inhumane ways that people are treated. The flag should be at half-mast. The human beings should be considered, whether they are in our borders or outside. Until those....until these things are corrected, in some small past, some small part, I see the flat at half-mast. And I ask myself, whose flag is it? Thank you. Throgmorton: Thank you, Brandon. Would anyone else like to address us? All right, seeing no one else,we'll move to Item 8, Planning and Zoning Matters. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4, 2018. Page 4 8. Planning and Zoning Matters 8.a.Behavioral Health Urgent Care Center Rezoning- Ordinance conditionally rezoning approximately 5.82 acres of property located at 1914 S. Gilbert Street, 1805 Waterfront Drive,260,306,&346 Southgate Avenue, from Intensive Commercial(CI-1) to Neighborhood Public(P-1). (REZ18- 00018) (Second Consideration) Throgmorton: This is second consideration,but the applicant has requested expedited action. Mims: I move that the rule requiring that ordinances must be considered and voted on for passage at two Council meetings prior to the meeting at which it is to be finally passed be suspended,that the second consideration and vote be waived, and that the ordinance be voted on for final passage at this lime. Taylor: Second. Throgmorton: Moved by Mims, seconded by Taylor. Discussion? Seeing none,roll call please. Motion carries 7-0. Mims: Move final con....minal (laughs)move final approval at this time(laughter) Taylor: Second. Throgmorton: Moved by Mims, seconded by Taylor. Discussion? Mims: I would just say there's going to be a lot of people that are really happy to get this piece done,uh, the rezoning for the Access Center and condensing this tonight will allow the County to go ahead with the originally planned closing date of December 14th. They will take possession of the land as soon as, uh, the weather. works for them. They will start putting fill in so that construction can start next spring or summer. Cole: Terrific! Throgmorton: Anyone else? Uh, I'm very excited that we're moving ahead on this, uh, for all the reasons that have been discussed previously,but some of you may not know, um....several of us have gone to San Antonio and seen the restoration center, Haven of Hope,the use of crisis intervention training down there that really enables....uh,people to receive the kinds of services they need immediately when This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4,2018. Page 5 they're in crisis, for whatever reason, and....to do so in a way that helps them get back on their feet, so to speak. So I'm really pleased, uh, to col...collaborate with the County,with the University, with Shelter House, with....a whole range of other entities to move ahead on this. Coralville too! Right, they're (both talking) Mims: Coralville's contributing money as well. Throgmorton: Yeah. Okay, anyone else? Taylor: Along with that, Jim, I'd like to thank all those folks you listed, including Susan. She's been on the planning stages, uh, for planning this, it seems like it's been forever, and finally coming to fruition and...and, uh, it's going to be wonderful. Throgmorton: Absolutely! Mims: Lot more planning to do too! (laughter) Taylor: Still more planning! Throgmorton: Yeah. Teague: And there is, um, low barrier shelters.... Taylor: Yes! Teague: ...um, associated with this as well so....excellent! Mims: Yeah, gave us a permanent location for that, which'll be great. Teague: Yes. Throgmorton: Yeah. So....yeah! Roll call please. Mims: (both talking) I'm sorry, did anybody from the audience want to address this (mumbled) Okay! (mumbled) Throgmorton: Motion carries 7-0. Could I have a motion to accept correspondence please? Thomas: So moved. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4, 2018. Page 6 Mims: Second. Throgmorton: Moved by Thomas, seconded by Mims. All in favor say aye. Opposed. Motion carries. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4,2018. Page 7 8.b.Rezoning at 4643 Herbert Hoover Highway- Ordinance conditionally rezoning approximately 5.49 acres of property located at 4643 Herbert Hoover Highway, from Interim Development Multi-Family Residential(ID- RM)to Medium Density Multi-Family Residential(RM-20) and Low Density Multi-Family Residential (RM-12) . (REZ18-00020) (Second Consideration) Throgmorton: This is second consideration,but the applicant has requested expedited action. Mims: I move that the rule requiring that ordinances must be considered and voted on for passage at two Council meetings prior to the meeting at which it is to be finally passed be suspended,that the second consideration and vote be waived, and that the ordinance be voted on for final passage at this time. Taylor: Second. Throgmorton: Moved by Mims, seconded by Taylor. Discussion? Geoff, I wonder if someone could explain why the applicant's requesting. Fruin: Uh,there's a Iowa Finance Authority deadline,uh, for phase two of the project, which is,uh, has been talked about as the senior housing portion of it. Uh, they need to have that rezoning,uh, done, uh,before the first of the year in order to, uh,have the application,urn(clears throat) considered complete. Throgmorton: Thanks. Uh, any Council discussion? Seeing none,roll call please. Well I....I should ask(mumbled) (laughs) Would anybody like to address this topic? All right, seeing no one, disc...uh, roll call please. Motion carries 6-1. Could I have a motion to pass and adopt please? Mims: So moved. Cole: Second. Throgmorton: Moved by Mims, seconded by Cole. Discussion? Cole: I would just like to briefly mention one thing. One of the things I'm really thrilled with is something that we're not seeing. I think what the City of Iowa City is saying is 'yes in my backyard' and I think that's terrific. Urn,there's not a lot of low-income housing in the northeast part of our community. This is gonna be additional, several units that are gonna be part of that, and I'm just really thrilled that we seem to have reached....as much as we can in a city like Iowa This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4,2018. Page 8 City, where we like to disagree in dialogue from time to time, and we seem to have widespread community support, um, so I'm really thrilled that we don't have a lot of people speakin' up against this, and that this is gonna be an important step forward to improve affordable housing throughout the community. Throgmorton: Anyone else? Teague: I love that it's movin' to that, uh,part of town because we don't, um, it's been developed over the years but it....this is a great,uh,projectmovin' to that part of town. Throgmorton: Okie doke. Roll call please. Motion carries 6 to,uh, 6-1. Could I have a motion to accept correspondence please? Mims: So moved. Salih: Second. Throgmorton: Moved by Mims, seconded by Salih. All in favor say aye. Opposed. Motion carries. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4,2018. Page 9 8.c. Zoning code amendment related to transfer of development rights for historic properties - Ordinance amending Title 14, Zoning Code of the Iowa City Code related to Transfer of Development Rights for certain historic properties. (ZCA18-00003) 1. Public hearing [Continued from 11/20 meeting] Throgmorton: I'm gonna open the public hearing. (bangs gavel) Would anyone like to address this topic please? Good evening, Pam! Michaud: Pam Michaud, urn....in Iowa City, and I'm sorry I haven't been attending these meetings. Uh, I'm kind of wondering....I don't know if this includes the, uh, 12 W. Court project. Throgmorton: Well....no. (several responding) Michaud: No, not really? So is that....on this agenda or not? Throgmorton: No, it's not. Michaud: Okay, that's simple then. All right so then this is just in general, X number of floors might be transferred to different parts of town(both talking) Throgmorton: Floors or density. Michaud: ...or density. Okay. All right, so there is part of this that I'd like to address. Urn....uh.....density's good. I guess, um....noting.....how projects are represented at times and how they are executed is not always straightforward. Urn.....so I've noticed a difference in a discrepancy in, urn, height represented in some....a project something like including The Chauncey. So this is if....if there's a public perception that 15 stories is so many feet, urn....were if....if the five stories, let's say somebody wants to...instead of a three-story building in a certain area. They want to add two stories, how...how large are those stories going to be? What is the exact foot height elevation or meter elevation of the proposed project? Because it's a little disingenuous to say, oh, it's just a five- story building, when we might think 'oh well there's maybe 10 or 12 feet per story and it's going to be so tall.' It's good to have exact numbers on the elevation proposed. Urn, because otherwise people are taken aback when lo and behold, instead of 15 there are 16 stories. There're not 16 floors in The Chauncey, but there are 16 stories because there's not a 16th floor. So there is a This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4, 2018. Page 10 huge bump up of 14 feet on the stop of a 15-story building. So what does that mean practically for a place like College Green? On a very large scale,projects such as this, it's just that much more of the sky that's blocked off for the enjoyment of the whole east side. So when there's Planning and Zoning adjustment for comprehensive plan,which would be in the future for 12 W. Court, um, there oughta be an exact measurement on the proposal,not just some,you know, cocktail sketch that we're....maybe mistaken about....the height because of our own private residence experience,because a hotel was going to be much larger with 20-foot ceilings. So...uh, I would....so this does kinda relate to the increased height, um....and it would be good to hear some, if there's a proposal for increased height or zoning change, that,um, a height limitation should be more in yards, meters, feet,miles—not just stories,because those stories are.... shall we say fiction, you know, so we don't wanna get too literary here in Iowa City,but um(laughs) We wanna be more precise with our requirements when there's a zoning change and(mumbled)requirements should also be exact height that we're presenting to the public in a very straightforward,honest,transparent, etc.,way. Throgmorton: Okay, thank(both talking) Michaud: Thank you. Throgmorton: Thanks. Ann, would....would you be able to talk about the....the heights of stories. Russett: Um, I guess I could say that they generally vary,but for the purposes of the proposed transfer of development rights ordinance,we are saying that 10-feet equal one story for the purposes of calculating any potential transfer. Throgmorton: Great, thank you! Would anybody else like to address this topic? Okay, seeing no one else, I wanna remind you that the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval. So I need to ask you if you are inclined to vote in accordance with the Commission's recommendation to approve the ordinance. If not,we would continue the public hearing to allow the,uh,the Commission with an opportunity to consult about it. So....point of clarification I guess here. We had extensive discussion about this at our last meeting, and I....my personal sense was that we should not move ahead. I don't know what the rest of you think in terms of voting but if....if we decide not to move ahead, then we would need to consult with the Commission, or offer to consult with the Commission,but we could also....have, use this as a moment to reflect on maybe a couple or three This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4, 2018. Page 11 suggestions, or whatever, we have about....what the staff could do, cause you... you didn't, uh,there's none....no paperwork mentioning that, uh, what the....the developer had to say, is there, or did I overlook(both talking) Frain: No,there's not. So a quick update. Um,the,uh....the owner of the property on Clinton that prompted us to....to go down this path, urn,has verbally agreed to extend the deadline that we set for the end of January,uh,to June or July. Um, we would have to have a....a formal agreement to....to solidify that but(clears throat) I guess my message to the Council tonight is....we only need to extend it if there is further study that would help you make your decision, and a lot of the angst with this, uh, ordinance has been with the receiving sites and, urn,whether in the future we think that we're going to be willing to grant these on a....on a fairly consistent and regular basis. I don't think that concern's gonna go away with any amount of study. Uh....uh, you have some maps that are hopefully a little bit more clear to you in the packet. Hope you had a chance to look at those. I know for me they....they helped me think about those sites and for me personally they kind of amplified the concerns. So, we can extend it,but I wouldn't just do it to continue the conversation. I....I wanna hear from you exactly what further study that we could provide you as staff, uh, that would,uh, research that we could provide you that would help you make your policy decision. Throgmorton: Okay, so...this'd be a moment when we could suggest some possibilities of....of ....uh, I don't know, information that the staff could compile in the next six months if we think it might be fruitful and if it might influence our judgment about what to do. I wanna raise a couple or three possibilities. I....I don't know that they're gonna sway me, but I just wanna get 'em out there. Uh, one is, might there be some criteria that would enable the staff to narrow the,uh, the number of possible receiving sites or the types of possible receiving sites while simultaneously enabled...enabling desired developments in specific neighborhoods. You know, cause as it is now, I...we have this map kinda showing places all over the....all over the city, and I'm thinkin' if we could target ....this,uh, transfer of density in a way that would accomplish other objectives, then I....I'd be interested. So I'm....I'm just wondering, maybe over the next several months, staff could investigate that. The other thing is, in order for this to work,there'd have to be willing buyers, right? It doesn't matter if there are 150 sites that are potentially possible. The owners have to be willing to say I'll be involved and buy the density or transfer the density to their property. So, how... how would we go about identifying the willing buyers, if I'm understanding the process correctly. So those two questions come to my mind, and then I wonder, This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4,2018. Page 12 does it make any.....does it make good sense to have staff spend more time on this, despite the (laughs) two questions I just asked? You know, so hope I'm bein' clear about this, you know, and I see two possibilities that the staff could explore, but I'm not sure it's really worth asking the staff to spend the time to do it. Mims: My response would be no. Um....number one, I wanna say I really appreciate the staff's time and effort in this, cause I can't imagine how many hours (laughs) you guys spent in trying to pull this stuff together and give us, you know, what we had asked to have to consider,urn,based on that,uh, property owner's request. But for me....and I.....got a sense that at least some other Councilors and maybe everybody kinda agree with this last time. This is an incredibly complex,um, situation and....and program to put into place. I think it's gonna be very complex for people to understand and...there's....with that complexity is also going to be a considerable amount of uncertainty as to whether the transfer of development rights would even be allowed, since every single one of those applications would come back to the City Council. Um,when I looked at the maps, and again,thank you very much for the more detailed maps (laughs) I don't know how much time that took,but it really helped me a lot. Um, I would concur with Geoff's comments—it just raised my level of concern even more. Because as I looked at so many of those, I could just kind of envision neighbors in those areas saying, wait a minute, it's already dense enough here. We don't need or want more density. What's that gonna do to parking, you know, all other kinds of things, and then immediately that is coming back to a Council. Now, five years, 10 years, 20 years from now to have to make decisions on those. Urn....we started with the premise of trying to solve a problem, or make it easier to address preservation of historic property. My concern in trying to address that issue,which I....I think is a real issue, and how do we find ways to incentivize it and make it happen, I....I think we're almost....I think we're coming up with a solution that is going to cause more problems than what we're trying to solve. And so my position at this point would be to vote against it,urn, if we were to vote tonight. So.... Cole: I would guess I was sort of a solitary voice before in terms of wanting to move forward with it, so I'd hopefully try to persuade and get some votes into that position. Urn, Susan's absolutely right—it is an incredibly complex issue,but as I see it, it does come down to,um, Council does have control both over the landmarking process and making a historic district. So there would be that public feedback at that stage, and you're right. There would be essentially potential controversies on the back end for deciding where the receiving sites are,but I think the underlying concern of all of this is us somehow losing control over This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4, 2018. Page 13 unintended density in places that we don't necessarily want, and so to me we have that level of control through the landmark process, in terms of I would hope that through that discussion, if there was a developer wanting to landmark,that there would be a related discussion of where you would wanna use that...that density in terms of the receiving site. I know that that wouldn't happen in all those cases, like for example with Tate Arms. They're still looking where....where they can actually send that,but I think we have that level of control,urn,both at the sending site and the receiving site. The second thing is, it's not as if, although we don't wanna do tweaks, you know, all the time,that we can't make some additional modifications over the next two, three, four, five years,whoever's on the Council at that time. Final point would be, I don't think there's any chance at all of ever getting historic preservation downtown unless there's some sort of quid pro quo for the district to be able to get some of the value out for the historic designation. Um, I just bring that up in terms of,urn, I don't think that's gonna be able to happen,uh, and so...if we ever do get to that point, it would be nice to tell that district that, hey, if you do get this historic designation, you'll be able to transfer some of that value in terms of other parts of the downtown. So I would like to see us moving through,um, it did go through Planning and Zoning. Um, I believe the Historic Preservation Commission,were they unanimous? Throgmorton: Um, no, I think the answer's no but.... Fruin: I don't recall. Cole: It passed them, so at least two different bodies that are....that are...have expertise in that area, and I'm always reluctant.....of course we'll hear from the Planning and Zoning if I don't persuade people,um, but....but I'm reluctant to overturn their judgment unless I believe there's a clear reason to depart,urn, from their careful consideration. So I'll be a yes. Throgmorton: I....a yes for what in particular, for approving the (both talking) Cole: For approving it as is. Yes. Throgmorton: Okay. Thomas: (both talking) I'm willing to, urn, also give my support to it. I....you know, I...and in part it's....I understand that in the big macro picture this thing seems very unwieldy,uh, and problematic. Um, at the same time I'm looking at the immediate issues that we're facing, which are the, urn,preservation of the This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4,2018. Page 14 property on Clinton and....and there's another,uh,property on Bloomington,both of which seem to me in the staff's presentation, at least the Clinton and I think it would apply at Bloomington,the....the amount of transfer that we're talking about is a very modest amount. Um, I...unless I'm misunderstood something,uh, and.....and staff could correct me on this, but it seemed to me that in those sorts of situations the process,uh, would not be as complex because the amount of transfer is not that great. Urn, and so I would....I would want(laughs) you know, we're so pleased with the preservation of Tate Arms. That was one property, uh, I'm willing to approve this so that at least one property at a time and those...and those conditions where it would apply and...and be a workable,uh,remedy,uh, can move forward. And other....other issues or other strategies may be necessary, uh,you know,to complement this,but I do think if....if we save at a minimum one or two properties, uh, I think it's worthwhile moving forward. Throgmorton: Other discussion? Teague: I...I think the...um, theory of this,um,up front is really good,uh, as far as like the historic preservation piece. Um, I think it would be great to have,uh, a...a....a, in the toolkit, uh, somethin' that developers would want to reserve. Um, some..... and...and make some properties historic, except I think on the back end,um, as Susan has mentioned, um,there's so much uncertainty. Right now we, you know (laughs) in our work session earlier, you know, there's master plans, form based code, Capitol Street height bonuses and this other stuff that sometimes I think Councilors may want to, um, get away from. Um, and....not....you know, abide by what the....legislatively what's been written in directives,urn,for the Council to take on. So for me, this is somethin' that I....I don't think on the back end is good,urn, it's gonna cause a lot of distress, I believe, um, for some individuals, if they want to place a property, uh, some place where the Council doesn't agree, and so I would not vote for this. Throgmorton: Anyone else? I wanna say somethin' but I wanna get my note correctly here. Okay, Ann, could you come up please? Thank you. I wanna make sure I'm correct in stating something. Uh, do I understand correctly that the ordinance as currently written would enable property owners to transfer density to the downtown? Russett: Yes. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4,2018. Page 15 Throgmorton: Yes, and do I understand correctly that if an historic preservation district is created in the downtown, owners would be able to transfer density from the downtown? Russett: If they were contributing properties (both talking) Throgmorton: Yeah. Russell: ...district. Throgmorton: Yeah, so...thank you. That's...that's, I just wanted to make sure I knew about that. Well that makes no sense,to have the downtown be both a receiving and a sending area. So there's something just pretty wacky with that. Uh, I think....I think transferring density to the...to the downtown would worsen the conflict over preservation and development. So there's that. I think transferring density from the downtown would potentially involve massive transfers of density. Where would they go? Where would these massive transfers go? Also, transferring density to different area, to the Riverfront Crossings District is not necessary given the existing height bonuses that already exist there. So we already know the den...the Riverfront Crossings District has received a massive upzoning for anyone who....gets rezoned to Riverfront Crossings District. So transferring density into that district is just....and they have height bonuses and transferring more density into that district? I....I don't understand why that would be reasonable. So, I think none of those make any sense,nor does it generally make sense to transfer density to the Northside neighborhood, John. I mean it, you know,the map shows all sorts of sites in the Northside neighborhood that....could be,uh,you know,possible receiving areas. So that doesn't make any sense to me, and then the bottom line though is what,uh, you....you've already mentioned, Susan. I'll use my own words though,uh, basically every one of those receiving sites on the map is a flash point for political conflict....involving resistance from neighbors for....for, you know, completely legitimate reasons. So I don't wanna get into that....that kind of set of conflicts. And I can say more but I think that's plenty. So L...L...I cannot support the....the, um, proposed ordinance for those reasons and others,much as I admire the great work that our staff has done on it. Any other discussion about this? Mims: Well I think we have to hear from Pauline and Mazahir to know what our numbers are. Throgmorton: Yeah we do. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4,2018. Page 16 Taylor: I was just trying to scroll through, cause you'd asked about the Historic Preservation Commission,uh,looks like they did vote unanimus...unanimously (both talking) Throgmorton: ...but Planning and Zoning Commission. Taylor: ...but yeah, uh,but both the Planning and Zoning and the Historic Preservation still had concerns. So I....I don't understand voting in favor if...if you have concerns and....and as I do, I have some concerns about it too, and don't really understand the necessity of it and uh,mostly on the part of the receiving units as....as has already been mentioned. We don't wanna get in the middle of that battle in the neighborhoods. So, uh, I...I would probably not be in favor of it. Throgmorton: Do you wanna say somethin', Maz? Salih: I guess the same thing, this is really complicated to me and I think,uh,we,need to look into a lot of things. We need to reach out to lot people on this and....I....I think we need time to decide on this. That why for now I will vote no. Throgmorton: All right, so that means we need to offer....uh, a consultation with the Planning and Zoning Commission and we need to continue the public hearing until we learn what they say. So....could I have a motion,right,to continue the public hearing? Salih: So move. Throgmorton: So what,help me with the date? Would I say two weeks from now or...indefinite or.... Dilkes: We'll get ya a definite date. Well...probably the 18th. I think if we can fit the... when does Planning and Zoning meet next? (talking in background) Thursday. Okay. Well we can either do it to the...the December 18th or January 8th. Frain: If we keep it on the 18th,we could possibly do it at the work session. That's short notice on P&Z. If they can't do it we'll just defer it again. Throgmorton: Yeah. Okay. Cole: Makes sense. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4,2018. Page 17 Throgmorton: So the motion would be to defer the public hearing until the 18th of December and to offer a consult. Salih: Move. Mims: Second. Throgmorton: Moved by Salih, seconded by Mims. All in favor say aye. Opposed. Motion carries. 2. Consider an Ordinance (First Consideration) [Deferred from 11/20 meeting] This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4,2018. Page 18 9. Council Compensation Ordinance Amending Title 1 "Administration", Chapter 5 "City Council", Section 3 "Compensation" of the City Code to increase the salary and health insurance benefit of the Mayor and Members of the City Council effective January 1,2020. (Pass and Adopt) Throgmorton: Could I have a motion to pass and adopt please? Cole: So moved. Teague: Second. Throgmorton: Moved by Cole and seconded by Teague. Discussion? Teague: Again I think this is a great opportunity for the Councilors to, um, allow, um, individuals with less means to totally be a part of the Council. Um, if someone has a full-time job or....and they have to go to part-time or whatever the case may be, I....I....I think that, um, this is the time to make that opportunity, and we're talking....if we're talking about like, you know, $15 an hour, this of course doesn't incr...equate to that at all, but when we're talkin' about, um, ensurin' that, um, workers and (laughs) you know have,um,really wages that will help them, uh, be successful in our community, I think that Council position,um, is....is.... is a part of that as well, a part of that equation. We're not doing anything that other Councilors throughout the....throughout our state and throughout the nation does already, and so I really do feel that this is a step in the right direction, urn, for our community and will allow others in our community the ability to be a part of this,uh, team up here, um, so I....I 100% support this. Cole: Yeah, I agree, Bruce. I think really what we're trying to find as I see it is the Goldilocks amount, not too high, not too low,but just right. I think if we get too high then we start getting the people who say,hey, then all of a sudden it becomes a permanent position, and I don't think any of us want people who view council as a career. Urn, I think we want to view it as service, right, and so...but there's the practical reality, um, Susan, I think you raised a very legitimate point, I mean will this really do what we think it will do. Well I....I think there's a good shot, I mean cause if you're talking about, if you're making, you know, 8, $9 an hour, and I think total that'd be about 15,000 to 18,000 a year, and if you're talkin' about a council salary, given what we work, at roughly commensurate with that, that may tip the scales in terms of being able to open up some opportunities. Um, you know,the nice thing about this is by statute,uh, we're accountable to the...the, uh,public in terms of this cannot go into effect until there's an This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4,2018. Page 19 intervening election, so for those of us that, urn, intend to run again, if we do, every single one of us will have to be 100% accountable and if people think this is unfair, unreasonable, uh, they're, uh, entitled to register their opposition at the ballot box. Uh, so to me, and this....as Jim points out, this is not a huge increase. Um, and it has not happened in about 20 years. So I....I'm very comfortable, urn, in terms of making this recommendation. I think it's a very sensible number that we've picked at and I think it is the, uh, the Goldilocks amount,just.right. Taylor: I'm often asked how much time do ya spend, uh, with Council business and that really varies, and I think we had a very lengthy discussion about that and as I pointed out,uh, we're not really thinking of it as an hourly salary. It's salary. It's just a salary that's given, uh, to, urn, serve on the Council. So I think we have to continue to think of it that way. Thomas: And (mumbled) the last aspect of this that I would mention is, you know it's.... we're trying to establish parody with other cities of comparable size and complexity. So this will do that as well, which I think is, you know,just right. It's sort of tied, uh, to what other cities are doing as well. Salih: I voted no for this last time and I'm gonna continue voting no, not because I don't ...I disagree with you all, you know, the concept that this is encouraging the low- income people to run for Council. That's true. Completely I believe on this but you know I don't think we have to do it now. Uh, since day one I was just saying that we need to increase the seasonal City employees, uh, you know, income (mumbled) wages first to $15 an hour before we can move forward and increase our own salary. That's why I'm gonna still continue saying no to this. Throgmorton: Anyone else? Okay, I'd like to mention one thing, uh, an additional....I've already laid out several justifications for increasing the salaries by...incidentally, by a total of approximately$30,000 per year,total, for seven people. So it's not a very large increase. So here's my additional justification. As somebody who served on this Council 20 years ago, I can tell you the job's a lot harder, a lot more demanding than it was 20 years ago, and the bottom line is I think we need to realize we're a larger city facing a lot more complicated array of challenges than we did then. And....that's just a fact. So....uh, I think that's....that's justification for at least$10 a year more(laughs) I think it, uh,really warrants it. Anyone else? Okay, hearing no one, uh, no further comment, uh,roll call please. Motion carries 5-2. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4, 2018. Page 20 10. Council Appointments 10.a. Parks and Recreation Conunission Throgmorton: We have one vacancy to fill a four-year term and the gender re....there is no gender requirement. So we have four applications from Jessica Brass, Clayton Claussen, Sarah Urion, and Brianna Wills. What's your pleasure, folks? Mims: I would support Brianna. I think, I mean I think we talked about Clay last time and I, you know, I indicated my support and even though he'd been...he's been on a long time, he's been off a year and it certainly seemed to be the consensus of Council that we didn't wanna go that direction. So given that, I think when I look at the other three, I think Brianna shows maybe the longest and most,um, distinctive involvement with the parks and visiting all the parks and studying all the parks, in helping her neighborhood,um, develop a park in...in that neighborhood. So I think she's....shows through that her interest and....and love of and compassion and care about the parks in Iowa City. So I would support Brianna. Cole: Well not only that. I think her experience in the non-profit world now that she has Old Brick(mumbled) she could bring that directly to the fore,but I know a lot of the non-profits use a lot of our facilities. I think that'd be a great asset to have that connection. So yeah, I...I'm a....a huge fan of Brianna and I would definitely support her. Salih: I will support her too. Thomas: Me too. Mims: Great! Throgmorton: There you go! Sounds (mumbled) could I have a motion to appoint,uh, Brianna Wills to the Parks and Recreation Commission? Salih: So move. Cole: Second. Throgmorton: Moved by Salih, seconded by Cole. All in favor say aye. Opposed. Motion carries. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4,2018. Page 21 13. Community Comment Throgmorton: Anybody who wants to address a topic on....da, da, da....hi, Gustave! Stewart: Gustave Stewart, uh, Student Liaison. Urn, all I'm gonna say is if you know of any students, urn, that is looking for a ride to the airport, uh, UISG is facilitating, urn, a shuttle service, urn, from the campus to,uh, the Cedar Rapids Airport. Um, yeah,pretty much it! Thank you! Throgmorton: Great, and when does that start? Stewart: Urn....I believe it is the Friday of finals week, but I might....it's around then. Throgmorton: Is it just for the holiday break or what? Stewart: Yes,just for the holiday break and, urn, I believe, uh, we did it for Thanksgiving break and I think we plan on doing it for, uh, the spring break period as well. Throgmorton: Okay, great! Stewart: Thank you! Throgmorton: Thanks, Gustave. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4,2018. Page 22 14. City Council Information Throgmorton: I wanna....I wanna distinguish between what we're gonna do right now and what we do during the work session. In the work session,uh, what I was hoping to get is reports on what boards, commissions, etc.,that we're assigned to, have been doing. For this, it's just about....pending work session topics, upcoming community events, Council invitations, what you've done, meeting schedule, I mean stuff like that. So, let's start with Rockne and move to the right. Cole: Um,just a few different things in terms of various events going on in the community. Um, there is an annual....my daughter just started trumpet in fifth grade, so I'm much more into brass and interested in those issues. There is an annual holiday tuba concert at the University of Iowa Old Capitol Museum. Uh, the UI Tuba and Euphonium Ensemble will be bringing seasonal music and cheer to the University of Iowa. Takes place Friday, December 7th, from 12:30 to 1:00 P.M. on the steps of the Old Capitol Museum. That sounds like a lot of fun to me so...I....I might actually go to that. Uh,there's also a 2018 Holiday Market, um, the Holiday Market will take place from 8:00 A.M. to 1:00 P.M. on Saturday, December 8th at Robert A. Recreation Center, um, 220 S. Gilbert Street. Uh, the market will be held in the recreation center's first floor gymnasium and second floor social hall. Uh, Farmers Market vendors will make homemade home craft and seasonal goods. And then finally, um, we're getting up to the winter solstice. Um, you can celebrate the winter solstice with friends and family at the Winter Solstice Festival of Light. The celebration will take place from 6:00, uh, 6:00 to 8:00 P.M. on Friday, December 215t, 2018 at the Robert A. Lee Recreation Center. That's all I have! Thomas: I'll just mention Susan Craig retired, is retiring. I'm not sure exactly when her last day is but, uh....there was a....an event at the Library, uh, Room A, urn, celebrating her 40....41 years of service. It was a really nice event, urn, Library....the folks who love libraries, it's kinda fun to be around those people, and uh, so it was...it was a real pleasure to be there. Throgmorton: Yep! Susan? Mims: Just, urn, you know we're coming up on a major break in our community. You know we have the summer when all the students leave and we have this next month or so when the town kind of empties out and so I would just wish everybody, uh, safe travels, especially in this winter weather. Urn,hope their planes, trains, cars, whatever mode of transportation (laughs) you're using, urn, This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4,2018. Page 23 get there safely and don't get delayed, um, by terrible winter weather. So just hope everybody enjoys the break, the holidays, and comes back invigorated, uh, for their second semester, for those who are on the academic calendar and you know hopefully things will slow down a little bit for us over that time too and we'll come back and hit budget season! (laughter) Throgmorton: Oh, thanks! (laughter) Pauline? Taylor: Uh,just to echo on John's comments about, uh, the retirement reception for Susan Craig. It really was a nice event. Very well attended. Uh, it was great to see Marian Karr was there and it was good to see her smiling face again and to chat with her and catch up with, uh, what she's been doing in her retirement, urn, and allow the comments made by people, uh, about Susan were just spot on for what she's done for, uh, our literary community. So it was a really nice event. Urn, Jim and I, uh, I think it was in the, uh, late packet, the listening post summary. Uh, attended that out at Weber Elementary. That was very nice and pretty well attended. Good comments from the folks. Urn.....in the past week I've attended two events that are related to,urn, University, uh, dealings. Uh, the SCIU, the union that represents the healthcare workers presented their contract to the union, or to the hospital, and uh, also then there was a 'Save the Labor Center' summit, uh, the other day, uh, regarding the Labor Center, and I know we don't, we're not in the business to tell the University how to do their business and they don't tell us, uh,how to do ours, um....but uh....how the University chooses to handle both of these situations will ultimately affect, uh, members of our community and we should pay, uh, close attention to how each of those, uh, play out. That's all. Teague: On, urn, the 30th of November, urn, there was a....a,the readin' of names from sunrise at 6:45 A.M. until 4:40 P.M. and I was, urn, very fortunate to be a part of that day, where we read, urn, the names of individuals that have passed away from, urn, HIV/AIDS. Urn, and it really did,urn, humanize,urn, all of these individuals by readin' their names and they had a....a quilt that was dedicated to, urn....um, that was made by....I'm not sure if it was actually made by, urn, IC RED committee members or from....yes. Come on up! Wu: Urn, it was actually a panel from the AIDS Memorial Quilt, urn, so each year IC RED, or I guess Red Week in the past, urn,has brought it over from Atlanta. Teague: Thank you! Throgmorton: State your name again, please. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4,2018. Page 24 Wu: I'm Austin Wu, uh, should I put my address down or.... Throgmorton: No. (laughter) Teague: So that was a, urn....it was actually a very emotional day. Um,just to be up there, bein' a part of that. Um, I....on December Pt, after the rain stopped,urn, I took my two nieces downtown and we got on the trolley, um, and that was fun. We actually sang about three carols, which I think they only wanted to do one,but uh, we had a singing group on our(laughs) on our trolley, so that was fun! Throgmorton: I bet you did! (laughter) Teague: And then my, now my niece....nieces are 9 and 11, wait....l 1 and 13, so I took them over to sit on Santa's lap, but that did not happen (laughter) so we did go on the Film Scene and look at Santa,but they were like we are too big to do that (laughter) so, urn, it was a fun weekend, urn,with them, walkin' around, urn, downtown Iowa City. Even went to see all of the bears, which was in the Hilton Garden Inn. Urn, the....the teddy bears, and that room was beautiful. It was decorated very nicely with all the teddy bears that was there. Urn, a few things that'll be corrin' up. Uh, will be the choir, urn, in the LGBT community on the 15t of December. They're gonna be havin' a concert and that's gonna be at 7:30 P.M. at Zion Lutheran Church. Urn, other than that, there's a few things that I'm gonna be goin' to, urn, it's gonna be Think Iowa, urn, and that's gonna be on the 11th. Urn, and that'll be a City luncheon, um, with Think Iowa. Urn, other than that, um we. we have students that are gettin' ready to take finals and I wish all of them the best during this time. I remember those days,but they're over (laughter) Throgmorton: Maz? Salih: I really don't remember anything. I don't have anything (mumbled) Thursday I, uh, I....am going to the (mumbled) dinner, something like that, with Little Village. Uh,because I been voted at best elected official with,uh, Stacey Walker and we have like I guess breakfast(mumbled) everybody invited. (laughter) Throgmorton: Congratulations! Salih: Thanks! This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4, 2018. Page 25 Throgmorton: Is that it? You've been outta town though. Where'd you go? Salih: Yeah, I....I went to Sudan,to bring my mother. She's sick and she's here right now,yeah, even though she don't like the cold but....I promise her only one month and she can leave. Yeah. Throgmorton: Well welcome back! So I would like to wish all of our Jewish residents and friends a Happy Hanukkah. I would also like to mention about the listening post, Pauline, that one of the things we heard was concerns expressed about the encroachment of CAFO's in the southern part of Johnson County and the potential health risks in Iowa City associated with CAFO's. And a CAFO (Concentrated Animal Feeding Operation) is (several talking) so the....and the health of,uh, public health concern that was expressed has to do with,um, airborne or water borne spread of community MRSA, which is a highly infectious,urn,bacteria,right? And, Pauline knows a lot more about that than I do,but....yeah, so they....they wanted us to be aware of their concerns and about how there's a new organization that's formed, what is it, Save Our.....Iowa Land? I don't remember the exact name now. Anyhow, we did that. Like Bruce I read names at the World's AID....World AIDS Day. I went aboutnoon and the told me you'd already been there,that you were there like 7:00 or something like that in the morning(laughs) I thought, okay, good for you! I don't wanna do it. I also, uh, I'm sure some people would like to know that there's a supervisor candidate forum tomorrow night,which is Wednesday, December the 5th,right here in City Hall, starting at 7:00....7:00 P.M. Uh, I'm also going to be at Little Village's breakfast of champions on Thursday to accept an award on behalf of Iowa City,the City of Iowa City. That'll be fun. I'm gonna participate in a Chamber Community Leadership Roundtable,which our fine City Manager organized, on Friday the 7th, over in the Coralville Library,right? Yeah. And, let's see....the Convention and Visitors Bureau annual awards luncheon will take place on December l lth, the 1 1th, in the Graduate Hotel. So I'm gonna participate in that as well. And, let's see, you and I, Bruce, are gonna meet with the University's,uh, Government Relations Committee on the 12th of December. Yeah. That'll be a fun thing to do. And I wanna....uh,this is the last thing I wanna mention. I wanna alert you to an opportunity and see if any of you are potentially interested in going,taking advantage of this opportunity, and that is the Mayors Innovation Project is holding its winter meeting in Washington, D.C. on the 25th and 26th of January. So if you're interested, let me know, uh,there's no registration for member cities,people coming from member cities. So,uh, and you know if....if you're interested and can do it, you know,that'd be a pretty valuable thing to do. I think the topic....I don't have the list in front of me,but This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4, 2018. Page 26 the topics (mumbled) discussing are spot on, so....that'd be a good reason to do it. Okay, I think that's it for us. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4, 2018. Page 27 15. Reports from City Staff c. City Clerk Throgmorton: Kellie? Fruehling: Just one clarification, your summary for the listening post will be in this Thursday's info packet, so on the 6`s. Throgmorton: Okay. Good deal! This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council regular formal meeting of December 4, 2018.