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1. Call to Order
Throgmorton: I'm gonna take the liberty of doing something unfamiliar, which will take about, at
the most, two minutes. Beginning in 2002, Iowa City's Public Art Program has
been sponsoring Poetry in the Public. This activity celebrates Iowa City's rich
literary tradition and local writing talent by displaying poems by writers of all
ages. This year's poems have been available for viewing in various locations,
including inside City buses, at the Iowa City Public Library, and at Iowa City
Recreation Centers, as well as other public facilities. Students and adults were
invited to submit short poems. Twenty students ... uh, sorry, 20 students and 24
adults responded. So I'd like to thank everyone who participated, and also take
this opportunity to read a couple of the poems that were submitted. I've drawn
two poems at random and I'll read them. First one's from, uh, represents the
student group and the second represents the adult group. So the first poem comes
from Sam Piper, age seven, Regina Elementary, first grade. The title of his poem
is "Snowy Days," sorry! "Snowy Day" (reads poem) The second comes from an
adult. It comes from Carol Tyx. The title of her poem is "What We All Want."
(reads poem) So, I wanna congratulate all those who submitted poems to Poetry
in Public and especially Carol Tyx and Sam Piper for their particular poems.
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7. Community Comment (items not on the agenda)
Throgmorton: This is for items not on the formal meeting agenda. So .... if you have something
you wanna bring to our attention, please feel free to come up and comment, and
take preferably about three minutes, and absolutely not more than five minutes to
say what's on your mind. Hi, come on up! State your name though when you
come up please and write it down too as well.
Zeithamel: My name (clears throat) pardon me, my name is Sheila Zeithamel.
Throginorton: Thank you, Sheila.
Zeithamel: Um, so I wanted to thank you for your work, um, for declaring, for the resolution
declaring the climate crisis. Thank you for that. And number two, I wanted to
say thank you for the effort and the work that's going into this 100 -day report,
because I think that's going to be a lot of work, um, on many individuals' part,
and .... and the last thing I just wanna call out is I think we noted, um, when we
declared this emergency that, you know, 50%, 57% of the emissions for the City
is brought about by Mid America and the University of Iowa, and... and while I
think .... and, Jim, you had mentioned that we don't have direct control of that.
I .... I think we don't want to underestimate, um, the influence that we can have as
a team that we can influence others, um, that.... that..... that they just don't have
the right, uh, to continue to do what they're doing. Coal is not .... a part of
mainstream energy sources any longer. It shouldn't be for the damage it does.
Um, we also talk about, uh, natural gas. Natural gas we know, um, when you
obtain natural gas that there's some methane emissions that go along with it, and
we know that methane is 21% more climate warming than.... than.... than carbon.
Sol....I just wanna make that note, and that we can work as a team to kind of
make some in .... influence those two groups, that they need to .... to get in line,
because to sustain ourselves and to survive on this planet, it's .... it's going to
require that. So, just thank you for your time.
Throgmorton: Great. Thank you, Sheila. Good evening!
Dorfman: My name is Lorraine Dorfman and I'm here to represent the Senior Center. I'm
one of the seven, as some of you know, I'm one of the seven, uh, Senior Center
Commissioners, and I really came to sort of give an update for what's been
happening recently, and I first of all want to thank the Council for its great support
of the Center. Um, a couple things I think are important to note, there ....there's
really been some movement in a couple of directions in the .... in the last year or
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so, but most notably in the last month or two, and that is, uh, one of them is the
inter -generational emphasis. So even though we serve older people, there's an
attempt to include other generations. Let me give you an example. Um, the
children were allowed to come, were encouraged to come free for lunch, all
summer, and a number of them did, and um, that was a real innovation. Um, the
Center sponsored, uh, a .... an event at the Film Scene. A, um, a film, uh, called,
uh, The Farewell. It really dealt with inter -generational relations in China and
families were encouraged to come and free popcorn was provided. Uh, so those
are just, you know, all that stuff adds up. Another important direction is outreach.
Uh, we're now giving courses out of the building, uh, for instance in West
Lib ... uh, in North Liberty, uh, there are a gamut of courses that are offered and
opportunities there. Um .... part of this was precipitated by not only interest, but
the pretty severe parking problem (laughs) adjacent to the Center. Uh, so we're
doing that. The other thing that I think is, one other thing I think is really
important is the Food Pantry. That has been open, running for the last year and in
that... anyone can come in and use it. Uh, there are non-perishable food items, um,
obviously we can't have perishable stuff. So people can donate and people can
take. Uh, so those are some directions. Also we're very concerned about the....
the facilities in general, but particularly the kitchen, and you got a proposal
recently, uh, from LaTasha, um, DeLoach, who is our Coordinator, about
possibilities for that and we really need, with your approval, uh, some kind of an
assessment of the facility. The building itself, the facilities and the kitchen, which
is very underutilized, very underutilized. It could be used for classes, for nutrition
education, and it could serve the larger community. There have been a number of
inquiries about using the kitchen. Now it's only used for a couple hours a day. It
needs to be updated. A lot of stuff needs to be replaced, and so forth. Urn .... uh,
another thing I really want to point out is our membership has grown. It is larger
than it has ever been. It's now over 1,700 people and again that has happened in
the last year, and I'm very pleased about that. So, we are really looking forward to
among other things getting an afternoon receptionist because our staff is small
and, uh, right now we don't have anyone for the afternoon, so the very small staff
is having to be at the front desk and manage the receptionist duties. So, um,
again, I want to, uh, thank you for your support and remind you that in planning,
in terms of housing, in terms of park development, in terms of building in general,
and in terms of making this a more walkable community, it's important that we
keep older people in mind, because it's a rapidly growing population. Are there
any questions?
Throgmorton: No, ma'am, but thanks for the update.
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Dorfman: Oh you're quite welcome.
Throgmorton: Great to see you! Anyone else? Good evening.
Mosher: Hi! Put my sticker on the book. So I'm Craig Mosher. Uh... and I grew up here in
Iowa City, uh.... taught up at Luther and here at Iowa and stuff and worked on
sustainability up there. Um .... I ..... uh.....am delighted that I was able to plug in
my Nissan Leaf at the ramp across the street (laughs) so that was kinda nice.
Thanks to the City! Um, and I also live at Prairie Hill Iowa City Co -Housing,
where we're trying to build, uh....uh, LEED-certified, super energy efficient
housing with no fossil fuels. I'm speaking for a couple of groups. One is the
Johnson Clean Energy District, which is a new organization that's really trying to
help the City meet the climate action plan goals of, uh, making the housing stock
much more energy efficient, and you'll be hearing more about that from us, uh, in
the coming year. Also I'm representing a group that's putting on an electric car
fair, uh, here at the Farmers Market on the 14th of September, on Saturday
morning. So we urge people to come down. We'll have electric vehicles for
people to, uh, see and talk with the drivers, owners and stuff. Last year we had
three Teslas show up from the Quad Cities at the last minute, so that was kind of
exciting (laughs) Urn .... so, I really appreciate some things that the City's been
doing. Um, you got a dozen, uh, electric cars, uh, vehicles. Um, the charging
stations of course in all of the parking, almost all the parking ramps. And the
State grant to do the regional readiness planning, um, is a wonderful opportunity
for us to work on this, and I really hope that you'll be able to give us an
opportunity to provide some input, uh, citizens to that, some of that process. Um,
and finally, it's wonderful to hear that Brenda Nations is, um, working with this
national group, uh, trying to develop some readiness for .... for planning for
electric vehicles and so forth. So, we'd be glad to help out in any way that we can
to sort of provide information or whatever to ... to those procedures. I also would
like to ask several things. One is, of course, continuing to electrify as much of the
City fleet as possible. Um, that's really become much more financially doable
these days and I understand that some school districts in Iowa are now using some
of the Volkswagen settlement money to buy electric school buses, which makes a
lot of sense for a school bus. And they're not that much more, but the money
makes the difference and hopefully there will be some City buses that'll be
possible, uh, in the not too distant future that the City could purchase and move us
towards the goal of an all -electric transportation system, which is where we have
to go at this point. Uh, also of course more charging stations would be really
helpful, uh, particularly the fast charging stations that Kum n' Go is starting to put
in around the state. That would draw people in off the interstate to shop and have
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coffee and eat while their car charges for 30 minutes and they can get back on the
road. So I hope that some of those kind of things will be possible, um, and of
course we need to watch out for this upcoming tax on electric vehicle charging
that I know you're all thinking about too, so .... but thank you for all that you've
done and we look forward to working with you. Thank you.
Throgmorton: Thanks, Greg. It's nice to see you again. Anyone else? Hi, Brandon.
Ross: First of all I wanna thank the City Council, uh, the seven of you, uh, of course
there's only five of you, uh, two are on vacation, uh, I wonder if it's with each
other. Uh, I wanna thank this particular City Council because this City Council,
you seven, uh, have actually changed things, uh, from the, uh, day-to-day business
as usual kind of, ub, matters. Uh, and you deserve some credit, uh, so I would
like to start there. You really do deserve some credit. Uh, I think that it was very
hard, I think over the past 30 to 40 years that we've had a kind of Chamber of
Commerce, very friendly and open, accessible, Council, but the people were
kinda left behind in that period, and I think that you have done a good job of
shifting, and asking the questions, the important questions, and having the
debates, whether you're all on the same side or not. Most of you have
disagreements with each other, but I think this Council is, uh, was refreshing. Uh,
and I'm just gonna say that. I'm not gonna say you're perfect, cause you know I'm
gonna have a complaint. So, uh, I don't like to call it a complaint. It's just a
disagreement maybe. So anyway, uh, so I also hope that people will come and
vote, uh, for the elections that are coming up, where, uh... uh, Mayor Throgmorton
is retiring from the Council, and so is, uh, Councilman Rockne Cole, and uh, I
hope that, uh, you will just kind of leave all the presidential circus in the back of
your mind somewhere cause we still have, I don't know, umpteen months to go,
and think about local politics and come here, because you know, folks, you
can ... you can do a lot more in your own city than you can in a presidential
election, which has been shown over and over and over again. So .... and if, uh,
and when you vote, I hope that you'll vote ... that people who come into the
Council will .... will also be socially conscious people, and that people who come
into the Council will be willing to give power to the ... to the .... to the bottom three-
quarters say, uh, keep working those issues. We have problems here that I see, uh,
that have to do with inequality and you know, even the seven goals that are
proposed, uh, they sound very reasonable. I mean they are, but they all have
something to do with money, getting money — everything's fine, at the end it says
advance social justice and racial equity. Now is that supposed to mean equality,
or is it equity, like you're making a financial transaction? What does that mean?
Were we afraid of the word equality? Racial equality is something that should
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exist, and on that chart of seven, perhaps there should be an eighth, which says we
will bring more equality. We will raise people up. You know there was a woman
who talked before me who talked about, uh, senior citizen's issues, and uh, senior
citizens, the handicapped, the people working regular jobs, those are big issues.
Housing is inex... is unaffordable in Iowa City and, uh.... landlords collude to
make a false market. How do we fight against that, and the City Council is our
protector! It's our buffer against that. So, you know, I know....I have a friend
who's a landlord. I know that will make some of you really quizzical. He is a
landlord, and he had a certain price on his units. He doesn't have many. And he
got a call from somebody. He didn't even really, he knew'em but he barely knew
'em, and he said, 'What are you doing charging that ... that rater and he .... they
wanted him to raise his rates so that people wouldn't think you could get lower
rates in town. So don't think .... don't think that I'm ... this is some conspiracy. This
is .... landlords collude and make a false market. The City Council helps people to
be able to afford to live where they work, and most of the workers downtown,
they can't afford The Chauncey, they can't afford the new buildings going up, and
they can't afford most of everything else. So I wanna encourage people, I wanna
encourage the Council to continue to ask the good questions, continue to have the
debates, and please keep in mind that you oughta call it the 99% or the 75%, but
most of the people down here really need to have affordable housing, we need to
have affordable downtown. Thank you .... and not only the downtown, but the
south side. I know I make everything downtown, cause the seven goals actually
seem to be talking a lot about the downtown. South side. So, I hope that, uh,
whoever comes in I hope that people will vote and that our future Councilors will
be earnest in ... in helping people to be able to afford, uh, to live in this city.
Thanks... thanks again, City Council.
Throgmorton: Great! Thank you, Brandon. Anyone else?
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8. Planning and Zoning Matters
8.a. Rezoning south of Scott Blvd and north of Tamarack Trail — Ordinance
conditionally rezoning approximately 36.81 acres of land located south of
Scott Boulevard and north of Tamarack Trail, from Interim Development
Single -Family Residential (ID -RS) to Low Density Single -Family Residential
(RS -5). (Second Consideration)
Throgmorton: Could I have a motion for second consideration please?
Mims: So moved.
Thomas: Second.
Throgmorton: Moved by Mims and seconded by Thomas. Let's take a brief moment here, we're
waiting to connect with Rockne Cole. Uh, as I indicated at the start of our
meeting he would be phoning in and we'd be having... he'd be participating from a
distance. (phone call being made) Hey, Rockne, this is Jim. So, hi, we're just,
uh, we've just opened the second consideration of the Tamarack Trail rezoning.
Cole: Perfect!
Throgmorton:Okay, and Danielle is on the verge of speaking. Hi, Danielle!
Sitzman: Good evening, Mayor, City Council. Danielle Sitzman, NDS. Um, this is the
second reading so this'll be brief. I just wanted to draw attention to a couple, uh,
to an amendment that was added to your packet following the last meeting on
August 20th. There were some questions or discussion about the impact of
existing traffic and vehicle speeds on Hickory Trail, and whether the existing and
proposed sections of Tamarack Trail should connect. Staff did prepare that memo
that was in your packet tonight. It did include an estimate of the traffic to be
generated by the development of 60 single-family lots, uh, using the Institute of
Traffic Engineers' Trip Generation Manual, 9th Edition. So there was a table in
your memo that looked like this one, uh, showing you the increased, uh, trip
generation based on those 60 lots added to the existing total. There were also...
also several scenarios that staff prepared to assign the travel paths to those, uh,
additional trips. Um, at the previous meeting, Kent Ralston had mentioned a
60/40 split, but he did also provide in your memo three other splits, um, dividing
up that traffic, uh, either more conservatively or more liberally between, uh,
taking a path along Hickory or Tamarack. Um, as you can see if...in your memo,
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even if the, assuming the heaviest split between the so ... the two, uh, entrances,
that would be scenario one where 80% is going to Hickory Trail and 20% to
Tamarack; and assuming the heaviest time of day for travel, which would be the
peak hours — either morning or afternoon — very little additional traffic is
expected, only one additional vehicle for every three minutes. Um, that would...
hardly discernible to the average, uh, person observing traffic, um, and it's not, uh,
expected to impact level of service at the intersection of Hickory Trail and First
Avenue. Um, the memo did also mention the, um, street network connections
being regulated through the subdivision code in reference to a particular part of
the subdivision code dealing with cul-de-sacs. Um, staff does not see any
compelling demonstration of why the existing and proposed sections of Tamarack
Trail should not be connected as proposed, or required by our subdivision code at
this time. Um, so in summary, staff continues to feel that the proposed conditions
that were endorsed by the Planning Commission adequately address any traffic -
related concerns at this time. During the consideration of the rezoning of the
property to RS -5, RS -5 is our least dense district, to provide housing for
individual households within city limits, where utilities are available. Um, these
are the two conditions that were placed on the, or recommended to you by the
Planning Commission when this case came to you at first reading. I will just
provide one other update. Staff did host a meeting this afternoon here at City Hall
with, um, the developer and some of the neighbors and City staff, um, to .... to
continue to discuss the neighborhood's concerns about this development. Um, the
neighborhood may speak tonight, but our take -away from that meeting as staff
was that, um, they were concerned about compatibility and we're asking the
developer to continue to consider, um, changes to their subdivision plan, that
would come to you at a meeting in the future. Um, encouraging the developer to
continue to consider wider, larger lots, uh, fewer lots, greater set -backs between
the houses on those lots, and the physical separation between the extension of
Tamarack from its current, um, to the new, uh, Tamarack Trail. So that really
concludes staff report as far as the memo goes. Kent is also here tonight to
answer questions if you have them.
Throgmorton: Thank you, Danielle.
Salih: I have a question for you, Danielle, if you go back to the ... table that .... yeah.
(unable to understand) between existing and proposed trip (unable to understand)
access. It is like those one, plus 20. What kind of data you use to come up with
this?
Sitzman: So Kent can speak to that!
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Ralston: Yeah. Thank you, good evening, Mayor, Council. Kent Ralston, Transportation
Planner. So this table uses Institute of Traffic Engineers', uh, Trip Generation
Manual is what we use. So any developer in town, any traffic engineer, any
transportation planner, uh, across the country would use basically the same
information. It's pretty much the only information we have, uh, to actually look at
a proposed development and actually estimate the amount of trips that it will
produce.
Salih: Okay. Oh, you have like standard.
Ralston: Correct.
Salih: Okay. Sure. Thanks.
Throgmorton: No other questions for Danielle?
Thomas: (clears throat) I had a question the last time around regar.... I thought I'd asked
the, uh, you know, what the existing speeds were, you know, you .... staff has
given us the, um, estimates as to how there might be a split in the additional trips
generated. Do we have a .... an understanding of what the actual existing speeds
are?
Ralston: We don't. Uh, I had mentioned at the last meeting, however, that we have a
traffic, uh, a valid traffic calming petition and staff will begin working through
that this fall.
Thomas: But we don't have it now.
Ralston: Correct.
Throgmorton: Kent, that petition has to do with Hickory Trail?
Ralston: Correct.
Throgmorton: Yeah, so (both talking)
Ralston: And we would look at Tamarack Trail as well, just as part of that, kind of the
package, but um, yes, Hickory Trail I think was the primary concern.
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Throgmorton: Okay.
Thomas: Then my other question, um, Danielle, you had mentioned at our last meeting
that, uh, the concept for placing the circles was derived from language in our
subdivision ordinance, which identified lang.... or distances between intersections,
based on intersection design.
Sitzman: Uh huh.
Thomas: And you I think mentioned 600 feet. And so I ... I was looking that up. It's ... the
language there that I found was that there's a ... a recommendation that the
distances be anywhere between 300 feet and 600 feet. Is that right?
Sitzman: Yeah, that would be correct.
Thomas: Right. So it's.... there.... minimum, maximum, so you had mentioned the
maximum and there is a minimum dimish... uh, dimension as well. Um .... I think
that's it.
Throgmorton: Okay. Thanks! Would anybody else like to address this topic? Sort of reminds
me of an old TV show where, uh, a person was supposed to stand up when
somebody's name was given and everybody pretend to be standing up (laughs)
And then finally the right person was standin'. Okay, well seeing no one else,
we'll just tum to Council discussion.
Salih: Yes.
Throgmorton: This is the time to do it, please.
Protextor: My name is Terry Protextor. I live at 1007 Tamarack Trail. Uh....
Throgmorton: Terry, could you hold on for a second?
Protextor: Absolutely!
Throgmorton: Bruce, can you hear Terry right now? (noises in background)
Teague: (several talking) Yes I can. (several talking)
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Protextor: Basically we had a chance after the last Council meeting, uh.... uh, to go back and
look at the, uh, comprehensive plan that you folks are using for your reference
points for a lot of decisions, and we went back and looked at it, and reproduced a
little bit so you could really make out the street. Uh, this is coming off the
comprehensive plan for the Bluffwood, uh, division, and just to give some people
some bearings, uh, you can see First Avenue. This is ... this is a 20 -year-old map,
so keep in mind some of this doesn't even exist yet today. Uh, First Avenue
wonders up that way and then Scott Boulevard around to the east, etc., and then
Hickory Trail, uh (mumbled) circle. I should probably have a pointer,
uh.... (mumbled) Um .... this is, uh, basically, uh, Hickory Trail (mumbled)
Tamarack Trail right now. So, um, if you look at that and then you go ahead and
take a look at, urn .... what we added to that was the new development, and again I
have... wanna repeat for Council's benefit that we are not against rezoning of this.
We just have concerns about (mumbled) issues, uh, subsequent to that. We also
plugged in the, uh, Harvest Preserve, and if you look at these, this .... this is the
(laughs) uh, comprehensive plan. This isn't on the table any more. And this
probably the, uh, slope of the land and all the, uh, wooded areas, probably will
never be developed. So our question really is, this just shows the current, um...
um, map from the .... (mumbled) question is, when you go back and look at the
whole idea of the comprehensive plan, it talks about the fact that due to its limited
training, etc., etc., uh, land owners, uh.... you have to be careful about .... they
were suggesting that (mumbled) be careful about how you, uh, develop that area.
(mumbled) skip over this, uh.... also advancing the idea of, uh, traffic patterns for
calming, etc., and I appreciate the City staff working on that with us, uh, and the
developer. Uh, an interesting thing, designing collector streets so they're not
contiguous through the streets, but are off -set at the middle of the neighborhood.
So in other words .... we're suggesting to slow down traffic, there's a different way
to handle it. And then you go back to cul-de-sacs. Everybody says cul-de-sacs
are off the table. Interestingly enough, they're not off the table, if you looked at
your comprehensive plan. Uh.....if you look at conservation issues, go back and
carefully read that, and I won't read it for ya due to the limitation of my time here,
but really it's concerned about how the subdivision gets developed or the
subdivisions get developed over time, and then specifically to us, uh, key point is
cul-de-sacs are proposed where appropriate. So again, going back to the fact that
open cul-de-sac, I'm not talking about closed cul-de-sac, I'm talking about open
one. Uh, and then being sensitive to ... to, uh, the natural green space, etc., and
with initiative, uh, young lady spoke earlier about (mumbled) climate and
concerns, uh, the more you build on property that used to be (laughs) used to be
prairie grass, the less you have for, uh.... CO2, if you read your botany textbooks.
And this also talks about neighborhoods moving around and not, uh, not as a
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through -put, uh, as well if you read it carefully. So I'm not going to belabor this,
but if you go back and look at each one of these points, uh, we're .... we're really
concerned about .... um, how the comprehensive plan is used to make decisions.
Has probably nothing to do with the discussion tonight per se, but please go back
and look at that. I know (mumbled) brought that up the other night and he's
concerned and I think some of the other Council Members are concerned about
how that is used as the benchmark for your decisions. I caution you, as a citizen,
who really got entrenched in this unbeknownst to me about two months ago
(laughs) got entrenched in this, uh, you really have to look at that and realize that
comprehensive plan, it's 20 years out of date. Yeah, it's 20 years out of date.
What's being proposed for Bluffwood doesn't even exist and probably won't exist,
except for this one development. So ... please keep that in mind as you're, uh,
pondering some of these issues down the road. Thank you.
Throgmorton: Thank you, Terry. Would any other neighbors or anyone else like to speak? Hi
there!
Rude: I'm Scott Rude, 1035 Tamarack Trail. Um, anyway, uh, Terry made some good
points, and again, very quickly, we are not, uh, objecting to the zoning. Um, we
believe it is appropriate to zone there. We believe that it's appropriate to develop
there. Um, and I think Danielle led off with what we're hoping we can
accomplish in that area, from the standpoint of compatibility with us. Um, and
the neighborhoods. Uh, but going back to the comp plan that Terry's talking
about, just real quickly. Um, you know it talks in there about the erodible soils,
about the conservation efforts that need to be taken in Bluffwood. Um, on page
13 of the Northeast District it talks directly to preserving natural features,
sensitive areas, um, keeping sensitive areas as natural green spaces. Um, it goes
on and on, and as Terry said, no the current, um, plan that's out there, the
comprehensive plan, does not fit this, and what I would ask is maybe we take a
look at that. Where are we on the comprehensive plan and what is it really going
to be in the future. Look at it strategically as to what do we need it to be. What
do we need it to look like. Um, is the program changed so much that we need to
think about something different? Um, based on the fact that the comprehensive
plan is not going to be achieved as it was written. Um, so .... that's it. Thank you.
Throgmorton: Scott. Anyone else? Okay, I'm not seeing anybody else. So we're gonna turn to
Council discussion, and remember what we're doing here is second consideration
of the ordinance. There'll be a third reading two weeks from tonight, depending
on how this vote goes tonight. Council discussion?
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Thomas: I'll just pick up on, urn .... my questions, uh, to staff, and .... to .... to repeat what my
position was two weeks ago on .... on this project was that in general I .... I support
the application, uh, with .... with my concerns really focusing on what I .... what I
would say would be the speeds of the .... of the, uh, vehicles running through the,
um, you know, the extension of Tamarack Trail onto Hickory Hill Trail, and when
I look at the .... the current street layout of the Bluffwood area with First Avenue,
Scott Boulevard, and Rochester defining the boundaries of that ... that area, from
what I can tell, all of the development is reached with cul-de-sacs. There aren't
any through streets. Uh, so by .... by creating the Tamarack Trail, uh, addition, uh,
that will provide the one through street, which will run from one arterial to
another. Now we .... we've said that, um, we don't expect to see through traffic, at
least this is my impression based on the discussion. We're not expecting based on
....where those points of, uh, connection are on First Avenue and Scott Boulevard,
that there will be any through traffic. Um, my concern is, like the budget (laughs)
traffic systems are also complex systems. We just don't know. Uh, I don't know.
I .... I would be unwilling to say with .... with great confidence that there might not
be over time, um, the use of this (noises on mic, difficult to hear at times)
connection between.... through the neighborhood and thus generating not simply
additional trips due to the addition, but also .... uh, trips coming from other
desti... uh, points of, uh....you know, going through the neighborhood on their way
somewhere else. So ... the .... the concern I have then is with the speeds. I
mentioned before, uh, and ... and so I was, Danielle mentioned that the basis for the
traffic circles, which are a traffic calming concept, were derived from the
distances, uh, provided in the subdivision standards, which call for, uh,
intersections every 300 to 500 feet, uh, and what I've .... based on my calculations,
the, uh, that more or less supplies, uh, with the one exception being from the
existing, uh, cul-de-sac at the end of Tamarack Trail to the first proposed traffic
circle at, urn .... Buckledown Circle. So that .... that distance is approximately 800
feet. So my .... my recommendation, or, uh, request would be that, uh, since that
exceeds the 600 foot maximum dimension, that a .... additional circle be installed
at the mid -point between those two traffic circles, which would result in a .... a
distance between them of about 400 feet, which is approximately what you see,
uh, intersection .... or block lengths in the original layout of Iowa City are roughly
400 feet. So to give everyone an idea of what that (noises on mic, difficult to hear
speaker) uh, so that .... that's really the only change I'm suggesting at this time. I
have concerns with the through traffic. Um, I think the .... the concept... potential
for that, I, you know, I'm sympathetic to the .... the idea of in the future if we find
that there is additional traffic being generated by this connection that a remedy be
sought, um, along the lines of putting in some kind of diverter, which would allow
emergency vehicles, bicyclists and pedestrians to pass through, but would, uh,
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restrict vehicular traffic. I don't see that being necessary now, but I .... it is
something I could ... could see, depending upon what .... what might happen, the
need to try to limit the number of vehicles that drive on this particular stretch of
road.
Throgmorton: And, John, you know in recommending that, it's a change that would require, uh,
agreement on the part of the developer. Is that correct, Eleanor?
Dilkes: We've included that in the conditional zoning agreement, the .... the existing ones
on the concept plan.
Throgmorton: I understand, but John's suggesting (both talking)
Dilkes: Yes, we would have to change the conditional zoning agreement, unless we have
the ability within the subdivision standards to impose that (both talking) which is
why we imposed it as a condition. So, yes.
Throgmorton: So I'm just trying to be clear about that, not stifle conversation or anything.
Anybody else wanna.... offer observations or .... questions or whatever.
Mims: Yeah I mean I....I supported this before and I will continue to, and I .... I'm
concerned about the traffic and speeds, potential, um, but we have a....we have a
lot of long residential streets in this community and one of the first ones that
struck my mind is Friendship Street. I mean Friendship Street is very long. Yes it
does have more side streets off it, I grant you that, but .... I have to believe an
awful lot of that traffic that comes in onto Friendship comes all the way to First
Avenue, if it's coming from the east. And I think .... in trying to concentrate on the
actual issue before us tonight, it is rezoning, and both members of the community
who live in that area said they are not against the rezoning. So I think it's
important that number one we support the rezoning tonight. Number two, I think
it's important as we go forward that .... we keep track of what's happening in that
neighborhood, and I realize it's a downward hill, you know, coming down from
Scott, so potential for greater speeds. I think we need to definitely keep an eye on
that. I'm sure the neighborhood will let us know. We already have a .... an
approved proposal or request so that we'll do some traffic calming and
investigation, and we na... may need to do more of that, and I think just like any
street in our city, and particularly new streets where we don't necessarily know
what all the traffic ramifications are, we need to keep looking at that, as....as time
goes by and traffic patterns change. I'm .... I personally am not real concerned
about cut -through traffic. I think when you've got a 35 -mile -an -hour speed limit
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on Scott, 25 which most people don't go (laughs) on First Avenue with no houses
on it, that they're going to take that path versus cutting through a neighborhood
with house after house after house in a .... in a 25 -mile -an -hour speed limit. So
I ... I really doubt that cut -through traffic is going to be an issue. Um, but again,
coming back to the focus of what we are here to vote on tonight and even having
the neighbors say they're not against the rezoning, I think we need to rezone and
then keep our eyes on the traffic issues as we go forward.
Teague: Other than the traffic, you know (difficult to understand) but definitely not in this
part, um, right now we're really lookin' at the rezonin' and, um, there was some
things mentioned tonight, which I've mentioned in the past. Our comprehensive
plan, we need to look at it, we need to redo it for, um, because a lot of it is
outdated. We need, um, the community to come forward and talk about the comp
plan and that type stuff, but again we're not talkin' about that tonight. We're just
rezoning. So I will continue to support this. I think it's, uh, kinda nice to see that
neighbors are supporting the, this development, uh, per se, um, and so I will
support it tonight. (noises on mic, difficult to hear at times)
Throgmorton: Thanks, Bruce. Rockne, are you still there?
Cole: Yep, I'm still here. So .... (difficult to hear) I did have concerns about the density,
um, I .... I do feel as a community, at some point in the future, we're going to have
to really seriously evaluate whether we ever have in the future sort of a purely
single-family development. Um, I'm a big fan of single-family. I think it can be
an extraordinarily important part of a .... of a development, but I also think there
should be different housing types, but .... Jim, as you, or Mayor, as you had
pointed out, um, I do think that that is a discussion for another day. Um, I think
it's important that we don't have, um, you know, expectations that aren't clearly set
out in our planning documents, and uh, because we also need to be as predictable
as we can, and we try our best to do that, um, and so I am gonna support it, um,
and you know, I...1, primarily because I think we need to be as predictable as we
can, and I am persuaded that this discussion about what type of single-family, ub,
zones we have is really something for another day. Uh, so that is gonna be my
position at this point, uh, but I do think that's a conversation that we do need to
have, and as I indicated to the neighbors, um, last night, uh, be careful what you
wish for because if I had my preference and we were (unable to understand)
Council, uh, I would really want a more, uh, denser, uh, development. So I think,
you know, it may be a blessing in disguise in terms of other development that we
have here, but otherwise I think it looks good, so I am gonna support it.
Throgmorton: Okay. Thanks, Rockne.
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Salih: I just ... I did not support this last time, but I really wanna ask you question here,
because last time (unable to understand) by any means a rezoning and now just
Susan Mims saying this is just for the rezoning, and again the same question I
raised last time and you told me that we cannot change anything later, because
this will be major change or something like that I remember, and that's why I did
not support it because... even if I support the rezoning now and all this question
come by the residents, if we kept it for later (noises on mic, difficult to hear
speaker) can we talk about it. We can't, right, because this is like we have to
change like the whole plan I guess, the .... that what was last time.
Throgmorton: Eleanor, why don't you respond to that cause it's kind of a legal question about
what we can change at what time (both talking)
Salih: Like all the concern that the resident have right now. I'm not, I'm just saying that
I'm not objecting to the rezoning, but uh, you know, Susan just said this is only
the rezoning, and even the residents are not objecting about it. If that means
whatever concern the resident have right now, it could be addressed later. If we
pass the rezoning tonight.
Dilkes: The rezoning is about density, and if you are .... you believe it's in accordance with
the comprehensive plan, and it should be RS -5 zoned, then you need to approve
the rezoning. That all ... I can't tell you that all the residents' concerns can be dealt
with at a later date. There may be some agreements that can be reached with the
developer. There may be some wiggle room within our subdivision standards,
although the availability of a cul-de-sac seems very slim to me, when I look at
those standards. So .... I can't tell you that if you .... I .... I think you need to legally
vote for the rezoning, but I can't tell you that down the road you can do that and
that all the residents' issues are going to be dealt with.
Salih: Yeah, I .... I really not objecting to rezoning but as long as we can address the
concern of the resident (mumbled) what it is.
Fruin: Maybe I can elaborate on that. I .... I don't think you can effectively address what
they're.... they're asking for. Um, wider lots, is ... if you want .... if you want our
single-family homes to have wider lots, you'd have to get .... you'd have to adjust
that standard with a text amendment to the code. The .... the lot sizes that they're
proposing are permitted by our code. So your developer cannot be compelled to
adjust ... the widths of lots.
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Salih: I understand, but even if the developer and the resident come with agreement.
Fruin: Oh sure! Sure.
Salih: They can come and (mumbled)
Fruin: Sure, absolutely. It's a .... it's a minimum standard. Uh, for lot size. So, yes, the
developer could choose to increase the width of the lots. I don't think that's
probably likely. I think they've put forward the, a concept plan that meets our city
standards, and that's probably what their intention is (noises on mic, difficult to
hear speaker) uh, likewise the I don't think we could compel them to install
additional traffic circle or other traffic calming measures that someone may think
up. We did that upfront with the conditions. We identified this as a potential
issue, as ... when the application was first received by staff. We worked with the
developer (noises on mic, difficult to hear) process to put in those traffic calming
measures, street trees, traffic circles, um, and to me that's .... that time has .... has
come and gone. So you're probably very likely to go through the platting process
and see exactly what your .... you're looking at here. So, um, we are focused on
the rezoning, but I don't wanna give false hope to anybody out there that it's
gonna be drastically different when it comes back, and when it comes back and it
meets all the code requirements, I don't think you have a choice but to ... to
approve that.
Salih: (both talking) can I ask the resident question? I .... I just wanna ask you if you
really like have a meeting with the developer and you gonna continue having
meeting to discuss all that meets that ... that you are referring to, because as he
said, if we approve this, there is really no (unable to understand) to change
anything, unless you come, developer, and you come with agreement, and bring it
to us. That's gonna be the case, right? Yeah.
Throgmorton: Yes. Please state your name and write it down too.
Thiel: Hi, good evening, Kristi Thiel, thank you for the opportunity to address you and
answer your question. Um, so several of the neighbors this afternoon had a
meeting with the developer, Joe Clark, as well as the land owner, Doug Paul, and
um, several members of the City staff included here. You wanna raise your hand
if you were there. Um, so, uh, we tried, the neighbors tried very hard to have an
open discussion with the developer regarding the lot sizes. Um, some of the
comments (noises on mic, difficult to hear) repeat that Mr. Clark made were, um
....I didn't propose this as a multi -family development. Um, if I would of come in
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with that design, then you'd be happy with what I'm proposing how as a single-
family home. Um, once the houses are .... I'm just here to develop the land. I'm
not selling the, I'm selling the plots — I'm not the builder, so whatever the builder
decides to do on the land is the builder's choice and I .... I will have no input in
that. Um, Doug Paul said that the residents, keep in mind I've only been there two
months, he said the residents, especially those on Tamarack Trail for the last
almost 20 years have enjoyed country living, but we need to recognize that we
live in Iowa City, and if we want country living we should move to the country.
Um, so, uh, I found that there was a great deal of, um.....immovability on the part
of the developer, as well as the land owner, to come to any kind of compromise
with the neighbors. And upon reflection, I realized, um, as Joe Clark said, he has,
um, ticked all the boxes by the Planning and Zoning Commission and made
amendments to the platting to accommodate their request. He's, um,
accommodated the City staffs request. But nowhere in there do I see there's any
kind of accommodation of the neighbor request, and I'd actually like to suggest
that that be an amendment to the code when neighborhoods are being added to
existing neighborhoods, um, that the current neighbors actually have a voice in
the process. Um, perhaps even a vote at the table, not just as we're here today,
discussing with the Council. Um .... but yeah overall there seemed to be, um....
uh, no wiggle room. Thank you.
Salih: Okay.
Throgmorton: Thank you.
Salih: I just think I heard this, even though my vote is not going to make the difference,
if I voted no or, you know, today, but I'm going to continue voting no because I
really wanna see that developer come and negotiate with the residents, because
they are the current residents and I always (unable to understand) he's not like
breaking anything, he's just proposing something that consistent with the like
comprehense plan, but I always care about the value of not only the law. (noises
on mic, difficult to hear) There is a high to the law too, not only that, that's why I
have .... I was hoping that you guys like negotiated together and it seemed like this
not going to happen, that's why I'm going to continue voting no for this project.
Throgmorton: Okay, thanks. Pauline?
Taylor: I'll just, like the last time I .... I had voted for this because the, uh, residents had
said that they didn't have a problem with the rezoning, which is what we are
allegedly voting on today, but it is distressing to me to hear this young woman say
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that they feel like they have no voice and, uh, there's no compromise, and
basically it's a done deal, um, because I think what, uh, Congress, uh, Mazahir
was trying to get at was at what point can they have some say and what point can
we as Councilors have a say in, uh, what this development's going to look like.
So that is concerning to me, but since we've given .... been given the direction that
what we're truly voting on is the rezoning, uh, but I did have, uh, some concerns
about that as, uh, John had mentioned the speeds, and uh, in .... in several of your
letters that you had sent to us, you talked about the speeds on your .... on your
current, uh, street, and so there was talk of the traffic calming measures and .... and
what to do about that, and I had a question because at one point in the P&Z
minutes it talked about 90 trees being planted, but then in the, um, I mean it seems
like a small detail, but then in the conditional zoning agreement and in other, uh,
point was mentioned, um, 75 trees. Uh, Danielle, do you know.....the answer to
that?
Sitzman: Sure! We were giving some leeway to kind of negotiate the exact arrangement
and what the result was is that the trees will be planted on Tamarack, but not the
spur, I think it's called.... something with a B, the little side street. That .... those
will not have trees planted. The .... the traffic calming, it was more important for
the main north -south street than the spur to the west. So it reduced the number of
trees in the total.
Taylor: Okay! That's how the reduction came about, okay, and also what I wanted to
point out was that, uh, whatever's decided, I think it's going to be important that,
uh, that First Avenue, Scott Boulevard proposal that was mentioned also a couple
times in the discussion, ub, that it is in our budget 2020, 21, uh, for intersection
improvement and I think we .... we need to make that a priority on our list of
things to get done, if this development goes through, cause it's going to be
important I think.
Fruin: If I could Mayor, could I make .... could I make one comment? Uh (both talking)
Throgmorton: Sure!
Fruin: ....I hope, um, that .... that the Council realizes that when staff gets an initial
application for a development, um, we don't just send it through to the Planning
and Zoning Commission as is. Rarely, if ever, does it .... does it get through staff
without some type of modification. We try to anticipate, um, through.... through
our experiences, um, what the impacts to the neighborhood would be and then we
look to mitigate those issues. Um, so what you're seeing before you isn't
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necessarily what the developer's first choice was. Um, he .... he probably
submitted an application that checked all the boxes, but ... but then staff, um,
wouldn't support without those additional conditions and changes, which were the
traffic circles and the .... and the, the, uh, narrower road width, and the, uh, tree
planting. Those are things that we thought that would.... would.... enhance the
application and be better for the overall environment. So a lot of that negotiation
and what is best for the neighborhood, um, takes place here in the .... in the walls
of City Hall. Now, clearly we don't know the neighborhood as well as the
neighbors themselves, but you know we do a lot of this and I hope you recognize
that's part of our role is to push forward applications that not only meet the code,
but that are going to be found to be compatible in the long run with the existing
neighborhood.
Throgmorton: If I could translate just a little bit. Do I understand correctly that the developer
would have been within his right to submit a proposed rezoning that had wider
streets, had no cul-de-sacs, or not cul-de-sacs. Had no traffic circles, had no street
trees, and the staff could have said, 'Sure!'
Fruin: Yes.
Throgmorton: Yeah, but that's not what happened.
Fruin: Right.
Throgmorton: Right. So I think, you know, the point is that there's already been adjustment that
acknowledges many of the concerns of. ... of the neighbors who live in that area.
Not all of'em, that's for sure, but many of'em. So (clears throat) I ... did you want
to say something else, Maz?
Salih: But have you said something?
Throgmorton: No, I'm just gonna conclude, but go ahead.
Salih: No, I just wanna just tell you that, yeah, I understand that the staff could had done
some adjustment, uh, but that's staff and we as the Council, we have the final say,
even if they check all the boxes, and it was really (unable to understand)
everything right, as it should be, but at the end of the day it's us. We can just put a
little pressure so they can compromise something that will meet the resident
needs, you know. I just wanna say yes they do everything right. The developer
having done something (unable to understand) I understand that. But we are the
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final decision maker, and we been elected by the people, and we have to listen to
the people! That what I always ... not to the developer. I guess we have to listen to
(unable to understand) people who elected us.
Throgmorton: So I wanna introduce another fact that, uh, and if I'm wrong about what I say,
Eleanor, would you please correct me, cause I'm going to make sort of a legal
statement. It's my understanding that .... if we chose to deny this rezoning, even
though it is a proposed rezoning to the lowest residential zoning in the city, we
would be opening the City up to a, uh, a takings claim by the developer, saying in
other words, a claim that we have taken private property without due
compensation, and this is a .... these are words and concepts that come out of the
U.S. Constitution and years of adjudication. So .... we can't really reject the
proposed rezoning, given the fact that it's proposed to rezone the property to the
lowest possible residential density. The only question that could .... could be
resolved in some other fashion has to do with whether the roadway would be
broken, if you will, you know, cul-de-sac at both ends, and I don't, personally
don't think that's wise for all sorts of reasons and one of the reasons has to do with
the pretty small amount of traffic that is gonna be generated by the ... by the
proposed, uh, subdivision, and .... so given those points, you know, I'm gonna
support the rezoning, but I wanna ask Danielle another question. So maybe you
could come up and, you know, the answer surely will be pretty brief. So if. ... if
after we vote tonight and if after we vote similarly next time and approve the
rezoning, what are the next steps, and are there any ways that the residents, the
neighbors, can, uh, have input into those, especially the first next step.
Sitzman: So the next step is the preliminary plat. Um, that application has actually already
gone through the Planning Commission. So they've already had an opportunity to
speak before the Planning Commission, the neighbors have, on the preliminary
plat. Um, that will come to you on or about the time of the third reading of the
rezoning. Um, it may come shortly after that, just depending on paperwork and
when things get finally filed. Then there's a final plat that comes in that does not
go to the Planning Commission. Goes just to your body and is generally under
consent agenda and does not receive comment. So those'd be the next steps in the
approval.
Throgmorton: Okay. Thank you. All right, well I think we've heard what people needed to say,
and .... unless there's some objection from the Council, it's time to vote.
Thomas: I just wanted to .... to follow up on Geoff s comment. I .... I really appreciate the
approach staff has taken on trying to address what I see to be one of the
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uncertainties with respect to the project, and that is the vehicle speeds going
through the proposed development. Um, my concern is, you know, following up
on what Susan said, is if we do find that, um, there are higher vehicle speeds on
this stretch of roadway, uh.... the .... the ability to address that issue
intra... integrally with a traffic circle of past, and so what we will most likely see
would be a speed hump. So it ... it's that kind of consequence that I'm concerned
with and why I, you know, was suggesting that we .... look at, in looking at the
subdivision ordinance, which was ... which was the ref..reference point for the
spacing, uh, consider that. Uh, you know, it's a refinement in my view, uh, you
know, I really like the concept as developed. It just seemed to me there was
concern that when you have an 800 -foot spacing, uh, the likelihood or possibility
of speeds accelerating is as also mentioned, this is a down slope, um, increase
because of the distance between the deflections at the circles. So, anyway, um, I
just wanna make it clear that I think the concept is really sound.
Throgmorton: I ... I have a question for the staff, uh, basically, maybe Kent's the person to answer
it, but really has to do with speed bumps, as a traffic calming measure. They
work pretty well. I tend to slow down (laughs) every time I encounter a speed
bump. So it would seem, I don't... this is my question really. Is .... is the idea of
installing a speed bump near the southern boundary of the proposed subdivision,
could that be something incorporated into a preliminary plat, assuming the
developer supports it, or is that something the City itself has to do?
Ralston: Uh, I think the ... I think legal.... legally, uh, he has the ability, the developer, the
developers have the ability to bring back a plat that has that incorporated into it.
Uh, whether or not we could require that, um, I don't know the answer to that. I
don't really believe we could require it. We could just suggest that that's .... a good
idea.
Throgmorton: That's what I thought you'd say (both talking)
Dilkes: You're right, the street will be dedicated to the City, and if there was a need for
speed hump down the road, that could be put in. At .... at the City's discretion
(both talking)
Throgmorton: I understood that, yeah, the City could do that on its own, after it's dedicated to
the City, but I was wondering about the preliminary moment when the
preliminary plat is being prepared. So it's something (noise on mic, difficult to
hear speaker)
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Ralston: And the only issue, I .... that I'm not perfectly clear on is if the preliminary plant's
already gone through P&Z, there might be a bit of a disconnect there. I'd have to
ask Danielle about that, but if the preliminary plat has gone through P&Z and it
didn't have that incorporated into it, uh, it may have to go back to P&Z, but that's
somethin' Danielle could answer.
Throgmorton: It'd be worth looking into, it seems to me.
Dilkes: I think what the conversation reflects though is that these are all issues that really
need to be dealt with either at the subdivision stage, or at ... in the conditions,
which you've already approved, or at a subsequent time when the City ..when the
property's been dedicated to the City or the City has control of the right-of-way.
Not at a rezoning stage, because you're looking at denying them the use of the
property at the lowest density the City offers.
Throgmorton: Right. Okay.
Mims: And I would also, just from a timing standpoint, discourage trying to make
changes to the preliminary plat. That speed hump, if it's needed, is certainly
something that the City can do after the street's been dedicated. And I don't think
it warrants potentially holding up the process.
Throgmorton: Okay, any further conversation? Rockne, Bruce, either one of ya wanna add
anything else?
Cole: Nope, I'm ready to vote!
Throgmorton: Yeah. How bout you, Bruce (both talking) Okay. Roll call please. Motion
carries, what's that, 5-2? (several talking) No, it wouldn't be 6-2 (laughs)
(several talking) Yeah, 5-2 in favor, right? Okay. Thank you, everybody. Could
I have a motion to accept correspondence please?
Salih: Move.
Mims: Second.
Throgmorton: Moved by Salih, seconded by Mims. All in favor say aye. Opposed. Motion
carries.
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9. FY2020 Budget Amendment Public Bearing — Resolution Amending the
Current Budget for Fiscal Year Ending June 30, 2020
1. Public Hearing
Throgmorton: I'll open the public hearing. (bangs gavel)
Cole: Jim, I am gonna have to go, okay?
Throgmorton: Sure, I understand. Thanks, Rockne.
Cole: Thank you, everyone. All right, take care.
Budding: Jacklyn Budding, Finance Admin. So this is the first amendment for the fiscal
year 2020. Budget amendment is made up of three main components. The first
being carry -forward requests from FYI budget, um, the requests are submitted
by departments and reviewed by the City Manager's office and the Finance
Department. Um, the second component being CIP carry -forwards (mumbled)
calendar year versus the fiscal year and some are multi-year projects. The third
component being other small various amendments. Um, the revenues, some of
the larger amendments include inter -governmental revenues, about 5.7 million.
Uh, vast majority made up of state and federal grant carry -forwards on CIP
projects, and Home and CDBG carry -forwards. Um, other financing services
(mumbled) amended by about 1.7 million for UniverCity home sales and sale of
land, and then.... transfers (mumbled) 2.8 million, um, for CIP project carry-
forwards, and increase (mumbled) Uh, in the expenditure side, uh, one of the
larger increases for governmental and capital projects for about 40 million, um,
made up of various CIP projects, with the Public Works' facility, um, McCollister
Boulevard, and Myrtle -Riverside intersection. Um, also business type and
enterprise activities for 11 million, uh, major CIP projects include, ub, generator
relocation and sewer projects. Um, another large amendment was for community
and economic development for about two million. Includes cant' -forwards for
CDBG and Home, and UniverCity program. Um ... and in conclusion, uh, also
mention this is the first budget amendment for fiscal year 20. The overall total
impact to fund balance is a decrease of 46,478,000, which is covered through
excess fund balances and bonds, and will not affect property tax levies.
Questions?
Throgmorton: Thank you, Jacklyn.
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Frain: Do you all understand what a carry -forward is? I don't know if we've used that
(both talking) you before but a carry -forward is a .... essentially when, uh, you
have a expense or a revenue that you received in a particular year, but because
that project is not complete, uh, in ... in that fiscal year, you have to carry it forward
to the next fiscal year. So if you think of a project like Gateway, we may have
received federal funds, uh, a year before the Gateway project started or in the first
year of Gateway project, but we had to carry those forward, carry those funds
forward, you think about like our local option sales tax dollars, right? We
collected those from 09 to 13, and then every year we had to carry those dollars
forward as we expended them on the projects. So it's very common, uh, term that
we use, uh, as staff in City Hall, but it's again just recognizing that you don't
always spend or, uh, the money that you receive doesn't always get spent in
the .... in the year it's received and you have to push that forward.
Throgmorton: Great. Thanks! Did anybody have any questions for Jacklyn? Me neither. Uh,
anybody else like to address this topic? Seeing no one I'm going to close the
public hearing.....or not. What are you doin' there, Charlie, are you leavin'?
Okay (laughter) I'm going to close the public hearing. (bangs gavel) Could I
have a motion to approve please?
2. Consider a Resolution
Salih: Move.
Mims: (both talking)
Throgmorton: Moved by Mims, seconded by Salih. Yes, is that right? (several responding)
Discussion? Hearing none, roll call please. Motion carries 6-0, uh, Cole .... urn,
what's the right word? Absent?
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10. E -bikes & E -scooters in Parks — Ordinance amending Title 10, entitled
"Public Ways and Property," Chapter 9, entitled "Parks and Recreation
Regulations," to provide for the operation of electric assist bicycles, electric
scooters and electric skateboards in parks. (First Consideration)
Throgmorton: Could I have a motion for first consideration?
Mims: Move first consideration.
Thomas: Second.
Throgmorton: Moved by Mims, seconded by Thomas. Discussion?
Mims: You got staff.
Throgmorton: Oh! Darian, hi!
Nagle-Gamm: Hi there (both talking) Darian Nagle-Gamm, Transportation Services. Just really
briefly, um, you recently have, uh, we've come to the Council with ordinance
amendments to enable the use of electric assist bicycles, electric scooters, and
electric skateboards, so you might wonder why you see this on your agenda this
evening. Um, we had previously brought those items to you to clarify that they
should be allowed and to legally enable them to operate in the public right-of-way
on streets and on sidewalks where appropriate. This is just to clarify that that also
includes park land where bicycles are also allowed.
Throgmorton: Great! Any questions for Darian?
Salih: No. Exciting!
Throgmorton: I have a question for you, which perhaps you can answer, and maybe Geoff or
someone else, but .... I wonder if you could let us know what the plans are for
installing bike racks in City parks. I .... in most that I've gone into recently, there
aren't any bike racks. So I started thinking, eh, why is that?
Fruin: I can handle that! (laughs) Um, we've been doing it with our park renovations on
a park -by -park basis. So, um, you mentioned you visited Creekside Park today.
If you were to go out there you'd see the bike racks, and some... sometimes we
have fix -it stations, uh, there as well. So it's really a park -by -park basis, if we're
gonna go in there, um, and do renovations, we'll add the bike racks and then we'll
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also do 'em upon request if we, uh, get a resident, uh... um, or a group that would
like to see'em or more of'em in a park, we'll .... we'll add'em.
Throgmorton: Yeah, good. I ... well, I'll follow up. I, this afternoon I was driving back from
having a conversation with Maz, uh, along .... and I was coming back on
Muscatine, and I just looked to my left and saw Creekside Park and thought, 'Oh,
what the heck, it looks to me like it's done. I understood it was done. I'm gonna
go take a look.' So I did and it looks great! So the, one of the first things I
noticed, other than the ensemble, was bike racks (laughs) and then the .... the fix -it
station and tire pump thing, and then a big, beautiful basketball court. My gosh, if
I ... I would have given an arm and a leg as a youth to be able to have a basketball
court like that near where I lived, and .... what else, I mean.... everything about it
looks .... oh yeah! Recycling containers too. I've wondered the same thing about
our parks, why .... why don't they all have recycling containers. So the answer is,
they're being rolled in, basically, right, by the renovations.
Fruin: Yeah. Now the recycling containers should.... we're not waiting on those. Those
should be all out. Um, I'm not sure if every small neighborhood park has them
but, um, certainly the major parks should have recycling containers by now.
Throgmorton: Okay.
Salih: Sure.
Throgmorton: Great! Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll call please. Motion carries 6-
0.
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11. Council Liaison to CPRB — Ordinance amending Title 8, entitled "Police
Regulations," Chapter 8, entitled "Community Police Review Board," to
create a City Council liaison. (Pass & Adopt)
Throgmorton: Could I have a motion please?
Salih: Move.
Thomas: Second.
Throgmorton: Moved by Salih, seconded by Thomas. Discussion?
Mims: Well I'll just reiterate very quickly, um, my position from before. I think I'm
probably the only one voting against this. I .... I don't like the precedent this is
setting. I think people should feel free, and I think most people do on these
commissions, to come talk to people, um, and I don't in particular the language,
and I emphasized that Ion .... that last time, that .... and even Mr. Townsend, I think,
recognized that the language of the ordinance, or the resolution, is not ... of the
ordinance, excuse me. Um, they .... CPRB I think wrote it and, um, would suggest
that they would.... either having input or selecting replacements and ... and implies
that the Council would get involved in .... problems, if there's issues with the, um,
with the way the Coon ... the commission is working, and I don't think that's an
appropriate role for the Council. So I'll be voting against it.
Throgmorton: Anyone else?
Salih: I support it and I'm happily to support it again!
Taylor: As I'd said before, initially I was not in favor of this cause I didn't really
understand the purpose either, but uh, giving it more thought, I thought, uh,
we ... we could give it a try, sort of a trial, uh, for the first year and see how it goes.
If it's not utilized, then it's probably not necessary.
Throgmorton: Bruce or John, do either one of you wanna say anything? Bruce, do you wanna
say anything?
Teague: I supported it before and again I think that, urn .... what's bein' asked, uh, we can
certainly, um, put an end to the ordinance and again I think what all of us are
going to be monitoring it, who's ever on Council, but I .... I think it's an
opportunity, uh, for the .... this is a pretty important board, you know, that would
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be had and I think it's vital that we give it a shot and we go from there. So I am
gonna support it tonight.
Throgmorton: Thank you. So I have voted against this ordinance twice, in the two previous
meetings, for reasons very similar to yours, Susan, and I articulated 'em as clearly
as I can. In general I thought we could find a better way to accomplish the
admirable objectives associated with this, uh, this particular proposal. Tonight,
however, I will vote in favor of it, out of respect for the CPRB members and their
unique concerns that come before the board. So I will vote in favor. Any further
discussion?
Salih: I .... I just wanna point out because I just hear the, uh, Pauline said to give it a try,
and we go from there. I .... we, I guess we are voting to implement it. Not like
(several talking) or two year. (several talking) Okay. Thank you.
Throgmorton: Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll call please. Motion carries 5-1, and
passes 5-1.
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12. Electric -Assist Bike Share Agreement — Resolution authorizing the Mayor to
sign and the City Clerk to attest a contract for Bike Sharing Services
between the City of Iowa City and Gotcha Mobility, LLC.
Throgmorton: Okay! Who's Gotcha and why (laughter)
Nagle-Gamm: (several talking) ....Gotcha in the future (several talking and laughing) around
town. It's a clever name! Clever name! Um, so tonight you'll be considering
authorizing an agreement with Gotcha Mobility for the provision of a dockless,
electric assist bike share for public use in Iowa City, and of course the goal of the
bike share is to provide a healthy, safe, affordable, and easily accessible
transportation options for residents and visitors to reduce, uh, demand on our
roadways, vehicle congestion, um, greenhouse gas emissions, um, so, you know
introducing this bike share is going to really help us reach those goals that have
been articulated in our bike master plan, and also in the climate action plan, which
of course calls for a shift of 55% of vehicle trips with sustainable options, such as
public transportation, bicycles, or pedestrian trips by 2050 in order to meet our
greenhouse gas emission goals. And as I mentioned, the bike share is going to be
comprised of electric assist bicycles. We've been talking a lot about electric assist
bicycles over the last couple months and just a reminder, it's.... it's.... it's nothing
that requires a big learning curve, there's no throttle, um, it's simply a pedal assist
activated, uh, electric assist, so the harder that you press into the pedals, um, the
more assistance you get. So for example if you're climbing a hill, you'll get more
electric assistance from the motor than you would if you're on a flat road. Um,
they're gaining popularity. Um, as you might imagine it makes, um, riding a
bicycle a breeze to do really, and much more enjoyable. It makes the distance that
people can travel, um, more reasonable, and it can provide a real alternative to an
automobile. So we're excited to bring this, uh, partnership into town. The public
is going to be able to locate and access, um, checkout the vehicles, the electric
assist bikes, if you will, using a smart phone app. Um, you can either pay per
ride, or there's monthly programs, monthly fee programs. You can pay by month,
or you can pay for an annual fee too. You can have a subscription for the whole
year. That's included with a certain amount of ride time each day, uh, and a small
per cost fee if you go over say an hour per day. Um, there is an income qualified
equity program, um, that will be initiating with this as well, and there is also is a
way, um, that's, uh, users can access it without a smart phone. So we haven't left
those behind who don't have access to smart phones, but certainly the smart phone
will be the easiest way you will be able to .... to find a bike and, um, and take a
ride. A question we often get about, um, bike shares in general is the parking.
How do you encourage the orderly parking? One of the reasons, um, this vendor I
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think will be a particularly good fit in this community is because they use GO
fencing technology and the old bike share systems were docked, where you
literally would park a bike into a system that was at one location and, um, the
benefit was everybody knew where to put the bikes and everybody knew where to
get them at. A dockless system allows for rnore flexibility and that's really the
type of system we're looking at, but with, um, but with this GO fencing
technology, we can literally identify, um, in our city the places we want to have
them parked at, we want to designate them to be parked at spatially and the GPS,
um, transponders will know if they are parked within an area that we have
identified as a place where these .... where they should be parked at. So it really
helps encourage orderly parking and making sure, um, that people know where
they're at. They're not blocking the pedestrian paths and so on. Ulr, another
question we get often is, you know, who will be responsible for moving the bikes
around. This is really a Gotcha operation, but we are, uh, we're enabling them to
operate in our right-of-way, and we'll certainly be working with them, but the day-
to-day operations are .... are, will be the vendor, um, what they do is called
rebalance. They go out every day and they move the bikes from areas of lower
demand to, back to the areas of where the maximum demand is, and of course
because of, uh, this technology, the GPS receiver, they always know where the
bikes are at, and they know where people are going. So they have this sort of
infinite data set of...and understanding for how people are using their system.
Um, the initial focus, um, is going to be in the downtown and near -downtown
areas where we perceive is going to be the greatest demand, and then our goal is
to work with the vendor on strategies to sort of build out the access through the
neighborhoods and the other commercial areas throughout the community. And
following the approval of this agreement, uh, staff will host a kick-off meeting
with the vendor and we'll out line the steps towards the launch, uh, which is a 90 -
day window as outlined in the contract, and we expect it'll be towards the tail end
of that. So I'm here to answer any questions you may have about the upcoming
bike share!
Salih: I just wanna ask you, first when this will be starting, do you know? Have any
(both talking)
Nagle-Gamm: Well the contract states a 90 -day window and we've been given indications it will
likely be towards the end of that, so .... that's the best, we don't have a launch date
settled yet, but we'll be discussing more soon.
Salih: And is this like around like the whole city or just downtown?
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Nagle -Lamm: I think we'll start in the downtown and near -downtown areas, um, and then
determine how best to, um, enable areas where the bicycles can be parked at more
or less in the neighborhoods, and figure out how to integrate the entire
community. I think it's .... I think we should start in the downtown and really get
our processes, um, down and then just start, um, basically radiating outward and
providing more and more access.
Salih: Yeah. And how the people will know there is income qualify? Do you have like
a way you can advertise this or...
Nagle -Gamin: Yes, there will be, as part of the launch, there's going to be a pretty, uh, robust
marketing education, um, campaign to let the public know about this
transportation option. We haven't determined yet what the qualifiers are. We'll do
that after we, uh, after we meet with the vendor team as a customer. Um, but uh,
we have expressed that ... and we put language in the ... into the agreement that it
must be a mutually agreed upon, urn .... uh, set of qualifiers, set of criteria to
qualify for that ... for the low-income equity program.
Salih: I .... I really encourage the people to like (unable to understand) downtown and
like the places near downtown, but really this is will be like much need at the low
income neighborhood, and the people who really need of this because they can
use it and, especially if they have discount on the like, as you said, there is some
kind of discount for low income, and uh, I hope if you will like when you start
expanding you will like really identify the community that needs or the area that's
really people will need it. So it can .... start with that area.
Mims: Yeah, I was really pleased to see the .... the low income qualification, I mean $5.00
annually, that is fantastic, and um, yeah, hopefully there's not a big problem in
terms of coming to that mutual agreement on the qualifier. That is my only
concern (laughs) and I would agree with Mazahir, I mean I .... I understand and
agree with starting it downtown, where you think you have the most demand, but
I think it's essential that as quickly as possible we can start trying to get them out
into the neighborhoods and I would agree, you know, with the low income
neighborhoods, where they would probably have the most demand, um, but trying
to get the bearings and get processes figured out, I understand makes sense, and
here we are at the beginning of September, and the contract isn't quite yet signed
and they're talking 90 days. Let's be realistic, September, October, November,
we're getting into the cold weather where we're not necessarily going to see a lot
of demand for a few months. So actually that might be good in terms of figuring
out some things and maybe it'll just delay figuring those out, I'm not sure.
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Thomas: When you say greater downtown, what ... what does that mean?
Nagle-Gamm: Well we haven't specified exactly, we haven't had those acute launch
conversations yet about where and when. Um, we just know that we're probably
going to see the most demand, and we wanna keep the initial area manageable so
that we can observe it, but certainly our goal is to expand it and make it available
throughout downtown. So we don't have a certain neighborhood in mind or, you
know, a certain .... we just.....we just imagine that downtown and near -downtown
will be the places where we sort of get things situated. We start understanding
how to operate with these new, uh, vehicles in the .... in the right-of-way, and then
our goal is to really expand it and provide that, improve the access for the entire
community.
Salih: Yeah. I .... I guess like when you say downtown, near -downtown, like it will come
up to me that will be used by student (unable to understand) but (laughs) we need
other people on the community, and the resident of Iowa City, to be using it too.
Yeah.
Taylor: I think, uh, a strong point on that is the, it would be considered the, like the
neighborhood associations, the South District Neighborhood Association has very
strong membership now, uh, and they have the Broadway Center there, as well as
the Pheasant Ridge has a very nice neighborhood center there, so I think
considering those kinds of areas that have strong centers. I did have a question,
uh, in your memo it mentioned it's gonna coordinate with the University e -bike
launch. Are they using the same company?
Nagle-Gamm: Yeah. The goal is for us to all .... we've been sort of working through this effort
together, with the University. So the goal is that we have a coordinated launch,
um, all together. So yes, we have been working with them, and um, and we're
launching with the same ... the plan is to launch with the same company. I don't
think they're quite as far along as .... as we are today.
Taylor: And is there plans for the company to have like a brick and mortar location in
town somewhere?
Nagle -Gamin: That's a great .... that's a great question. I ... yes, they....they, I don't know if it'll be
storefront, but um, they do have space. They usually acquire physical space in the
communities. They hire staff from the community. Um, that'll be part of their
launch process, but they do need space to, uh, work on the bicycles, um, to, you
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know, just to maintain them, to store them. Um, the .... the amount of bicycles on
the road can change seasonally, so they need a place to put them for, you know, if
it's an ice storm comes in, they take'em, they actually will take them off the
roads. You will see thein disappear from the right-of-way when it's unsafe to ride.
That sort of situation. So they do need some physical space.
Taylor: (mumbled) also, uh, had thought they would probably need something if they're,
uh, they .... said there would be access for those with no smart phone or credit
card, that they'd be able to use cash, so there would have to be some means for
somebody, a body, to ... to help them out.
Nagle-Gamm: Yeah, it's usually done through a partnership, um, and the par.... partnerships, I
haven't seen all the specifics of this program with gotcha, but I know in other
programs, um, there... there's ways that, um, services are offered through drug
stores and they partnered with them. So I'm not, I don't know all the details, but I
know it was CVS or Walgreens was, uh, would enable (mumbled) would enable
those transactions to happen.
Taylor: Okay. Thank you.
Throgmorton: Any other discussion? Bruce, did you wanna say anything?
Teague: No, I .... very excited to have this in our community.
Throgmorton: Okay, well, Darian, I'm sure you did a fair amount of work on this, so thanks for
all your efforts and whoever else was involved with .... was involved on the part of
City government. Uh, it's a great initiative. I really look forward to seeing it
work well and I absolutely hope that it does. Yeah. So ... and I'm confident it will.
So thanks for everything you've done. But I do wanna ask you a question. Sorry,
I shouldn't have left you in the lurch like that. Uh.... a few days ago I saw three
students riding bright yellow, new bicycles downtown. And I was wondering if
you know what, I mean they were identical, you know, so .... (laughter) they
looked like .... it looked like some coordinated effort, and I was wondering if you
knew anything about that.
Nagle -Gamin: I do not. You may have stumped me, and the fact that there was three of them
does lead me to believe that they were somehow connected by some program, but
I'm not aware of the yellow bike program, but I will keep an eye out.
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Throgmorton: Okay. Good deal. Thanks. It's not gonna affect my vote (laughter) Okay, thank
you. Any further discussion? (several talking in background) What, do we have
a motion? We didn't do a motion? (both talking)
Salih: We did!
Throgmorton: Oh, I'm sorry, my bad. Uh, so could I have a motion to approve please?
Mims: So moved.
Salih: Second.
Throgmorton: Uh, moved by Mims, seconded by Salih. Dis... and we've had a discussion. Any
further discussion?
Salih: No.
Throgmorton: Hearing none, roll call please. Motion carries 6-0.
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14. Community Comment
Throgmorton: Austin?
Wu: Hello there, everyone, uh, Austin Wu, UI Student Government, uh, City Liaison.
Um, first I just warm say the first week of classes has wrapped up, so um,
congratulations to everyone, um, who's made it through that. Um, I'm excited
about the return of football season last weekend and the fall weather. Broken out
the cardigans. It's wonderful, and then I have two points to make about the
bicycles. First on the yellow ones, I wonder ...I've seen by the Graduate Hotel,
they have some bikes for rental. So the bikes you saw had baskets out front and
they kind of looked like Dutch Roadsters. They might be from there.
Throgmorton: I ... I don't remember.... their appearance that well, just bright yellow (both talking)
Wu: Okay. So that's.... that's one theory, and then the second is on the, um, bike share.
I'm glad it's finally happening. The electric assist will be helpful on these hills,
but um, I also would like to second the statements made by certain Councilors
about the need to expand to, um, other neighborhoods outside the downtown as
soon as possible. The downtown's pretty compact and I think it's .... it's at a scale
where walking is still, um .... fulfills most people's needs certainly. Um, I guess
I'm .... I'm thinking of the theory where.... people are generally inclined to
commute about 30 minutes each way from their home. So expanding to those
neighborhoods that are about a 30 minutes walk away from the downtown areas
as quickly as possible (mumbled) far northside or on the Bowery area, uh,
students who live on the west side, especially medical students or grad students,
um, expanding bike shares to those areas as soon as possible, um, would be really
helpful for those students who, um, for them a bicycle would make a substantial
difference in the time they, uh, need to commute. All right, that's all. Thanks!
Throgmorton: Great. Thanks, Austin.
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15. City Council Information
Throgmorton: Why don't we start with .... let's see, Mazahir! And move to the right.
Salih: Nothing really (mumbled) and the only thing is like, yeah, we went to the Labor
Day yesterday. Was very nice, a lot people came and was very successful day.
That's it!
Throgmorton: Okay! John?
Thomas: Uh, one ... one item. I attended the ice cream social gran ... grand opening I guess
you might say for Lincoln Elementary, um, the day after our last meeting and, um,
it sure is nice to see these elementary schools, uh, seeing the additions after years
and years of (laughs) of, uh, not having them (laughs) so it was a great event.
Lots of fun at the event itself.
Mims: Yeah, those are a long time in my past (laughing) doing those with the kids, but
um, yeah, it is. It's great to see those. I drive down Dodge Street and see Horace
Mann and it just, you know, just looks wonderful and serving our students, um, so
much better. I think that ... that bond referendum is one of the best things this
overall community has done in a long time, and that's not just Iowa City. Um,
since our last meeting, I .... did a helped with a strategic planning meeting for the
Johnson Clean Energy District. Uh, it's a group of individual starting a non-profit
to, um, really I think help us and help the community in terms of ways and
strategies of dealing with our emissions and, um, I think a lot of it focused on
housing, but their gettin' their .... gettin' their feet under'em and trying to figure
out, uh, you know, how to do it and how to launch, and so I think it'll be a few
months before we see a whole lot because they wanna.... they wanna do it right,
but uh, good group of people and had a lot of fun.
Throgmorton: Great! Pauline?
Taylor: Um, August 27th we met with the Mobile Home Task Force again. We'll be
meeting every month, so we'll be meeting again on the 24th of September. Uh, at
the last meeting we talked about the possibilities, uh, on the City level that, uh, we
can do to discourage these out of state companies that buy up these mobile home
communities, uh, but we also realize that there are important things that need to
be done on the state level to protect these very vulnerable, uh, people, uh, cause
it's happening all over our state currently. Uh, of course that last Saturday I didn't
go, uh, many folks went to the Hawkeye football game, as was mentioned. It was
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a night game, which is nice, and weather was good. Little sprinkly, and as far as I
know went well. Didn't hear about any problems, so go Hawks! And, uh, as
Mazahir mentioned, the Labor Day picnic, which is held at City Park. Uh, the
crowd included people from all over, including some presidential candidates, so...
but I was happy with ... I was very proud of our gateway, uh, entrance to the area,
cause all these folks would have had to come in that way into town and I think it
just left a nice impression on them, on .... on what our community looks like and
feels. Uh, coming up, uh, Thursday, talking about the schools, Thursday the 12th
at 5:00 is the Mann ribbon cutting, so that will be exciting to see that. And that
evening there's a childcare symposium and there's been a lot of talk about that
being one of the largest impediment for workers, that their, uh, not only the cost
of it, but just the availability of it, so I'll be looking forward to hear what they
have to discuss about that. That's all.
Throgmorton: Bruce, did you want to say anything?
Teague: Yes, so I'll leave the Iowa Public Radio, um, report to the Mayor, who, uh, we
attended together. On the 22nd of August I was able to go to Kirk Ferentz
Childrens Hospital luncheon and that was a spectacular event. Um, that is I think
they're in their 20th year, something like that, of holdin' that event, um, and it was
at the Coralville Marriott, and that was awesome to be a part of, and then on that
Friday at 8:00 A.M., August 23rd, the Housin' Trust Fund of Johnson County
celebrated their 15th year, and there was some excitin' things comin' from that, uh,
report and uh, there's some things that the City could be very proud of, um,
because we got a rousing ovation for our involvement with the Housing Trust
Fund and those funds are critical in really keeping the housing stock available and
affordable within Iowa City. So kudos to all of the Councilors, as well as the
staff, for their involvement there. That's all I wanted to report on (mumbled) on
today!
Throgmorton: Okay, great. Thanks, Bruce. So as Bruce indicated, he and I were interviewed,
uh, about our climate crisis resolution for the August 22nd version of Ben Keifer's
"River to River" show, and Ben asked some really stimulating questions. I hope
we, Bruce and 1, responded well. I hope it was a fruitful thing from, uh, from, uh,
the listener's point of view. It was fun to do, I know that. Uh, lots of other
things. I attended the Women League of Voters reception and membership drive
week and a half ago. Went to Alexander Elementary's welcome back students
event on the 23rd. Greatly enjoyed the Latino festival. That was so much fun. It
was better than last year, and a lot of happy people out there. It was really great.
Uh, I attended a Women Build fundraiser for Habitat for Humanity. That was
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very good to do. Had an opportunity to meet the director of the National
Aeronautic and Space Administration, and a couple high level officials that work
in NASA, and uh, heard them praise U of I researchers in the Psychics and
Astronomy Department. It was really fun to do! I learned a lot. You want me to
talk about the moon and mars? (laughs) (several talking in background) Yeah,
okay! I can take a hint! Tomorrow, uh, Geoff, Simon, I think Tracy, and I are
going to the Housing Iowa Conference in Cedar Rapids, where Shelter House is
gonna get an award for Cross Park Place. Is that correct? I hope I said that right.
Fruin: Yes!
Throgmorton: Yeah, but I .... gotta be here at 6:45 (laughs) to catch a ride with Geoff. Oh no!
Oh well!
Salih: (mumbled) ride bike, Jim! (laughter)
Throgmorton: So, everybody needs to know that C -Span and its bus are going to be at the
Farmers Market, tomorrow afternoon, from 5:00 to 7:00, so one can just drop by
and next thing ya know, you're gonna be on national television, on C -Span, and I
don't know what they do except interview people and say, hey, how ya doin' and
everybody starts talkin' and havin' a good time. Also, I'm gonna be sharing dinner
with Josh Schamberger of our Convention and Visitors Bureau and other directors
of CVB in a couple or three days. Uh, apparently those directors are coming
together and Josh is feeling very good about the fact that they're meeting here this
year. Last, I s hold mention Cyclocross and the UCI World Cup. They're gonna
be taking place on the 13th through the 15th, and if I remember rightly, on the
14th is when the World Cup event is gonna take place. Does that sound right?
Frain: Yeah.
Throgmorton: Yeah. Okay, well that's plenty. Enough for me!
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