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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2020-09-01 TranscriptionPage I Council Present: Bergus, Mims, Salih, Teague, Taylor, Thomas, Weiner Staff Present: Fruin, Monroe, Kilburg, Dilkes, Fruehling, Bockenstedt, Hightshoe, Fleagle, Nagle -Gamin, Knoche Others Present: Longenecker, Van Heukelom (UISG) FY2022 Budget Discussion (IP3): Teague/ All right, well welcome to everybody and we are about to enter into our work session for Tuesday, September 1St. Uh, this is the City of Iowa City City Council meeting, and the first item we're going to be discussing is going to be the fiscal year, uh, 2020 budget decisions, uh, which is a part of IP3, and um, again if anybody is, um, watching on various, uh, avenues, we're in our work session today at 5:00 P.M. and then we'll be back at 7:00 P.M. for our formal meeting. So I'm gonna have the discussion for the fiscal, uh, 2022 budget discussion to start, I'm gonna start that discussion with our City Manager Geoff Fruin. Fruin/ Thank you, Mayor and Council. Um, this is an annual work session we do this time of year. It's ... it always sneaks up on us pretty quick, but uh, even though you just approved your, uh, fiscal year 21 budget in March, um, we're already working on the fiscal year 22 budget right now. Uh, that is a budget that, um, you will first see in December and first discuss in January before you're asked to adopt it for next year. Uh, so this time of year while we're still compiling the budget, um, it's always nice to identify any major new initiatives, uh, that we need to be, uh, looking at as staff as we compile that budget. Um, it's always a lot more difficult for us to make large-scale changes in January and February than it is, uh, this fall as we are putting those, uh, budgets together from our various departments. Um, so what we assume, um, is, uh, that our budget needs to be guided by your adopted master plans, your adopted resolutions, certainly your strategic plan, and as we compile our budget and .... and prioritize, um, submissions from our departments, we use those as guiding documents. So we really don't need to get into the areas that, uh, are encompassed by those various plans, resolutions, and urn .... your strategic plan, um, however, if there is anything new, um, that you want staff to investigate, it would be good to get .... to get that on the table, uh, tonight. Uh, if not tonight, shortly thereafter. So this is really a chance for us as staff to listen, to answer questions, uh, so with that I'm going to turn it back over to you, Mayor, and ... and, uh, see if there's anything that the Council would like to, um, offer tonight. Salih/ I just wanna talk about since .... oh, Mayor, you wanna say something? Teague/ No, go right ahead! Salih/ Yeah, LA just wanna, you know, talk about affordable housing, uh, because you know since on the master plan or strategic plan, we had that we going ... we said we want to This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 2 create a plan for affordable housing. So we ... we wanna be like more serious about it in creating something that, uh, really going to solve some, uh, of the crisis of affordable (garbled) I ... I really, because this budget is like .... if we come up later with this, uh, with the money, uh, if we approve this budget as it is without like thinking of ways of, uh, funding the affordable housing, uh, that means we have to wait after we approve this. I don't know what you think, Geoff, uh, if there is a way we can find some funding for affordable housing if we come up with like strong plan, solid plan, for that or...can we... (mumbled) for it or .... what you think? Fruin/ Um, sure, your, urn .... the plan that you intend, uh, to pursue was included in your Black Lives Matter resolutions. So, um, with the funding allocation that you provided along with that resolution, there's certainly ample dollars to pursue a plan if ..if you need outside funding to help you get there. Um, in terms of incorporating new monies into the budget, um, there's always.... there's always prioritization of resources and ultimately that's your .... that's your call. Um, our intention without any guidance from you would be to continue to provide, um, a million dollars in general fund, urn.... assistance for our affordable housing efforts. Um, as you know that's certainly not all encompassing of all our affordable housing efforts because we use state and federal resources, uh, to accomplish some of those objectives as well. And later this month you'll get an annual report from staff that provides you a comprehensive view of how we're using affordable housing dollars. But this is a good time, if you warm allocate more dollars towards affordable housing, uh, it would be good to know the ... the magnitude, the scope of what you're looking to invest, and then as staff we would do our best certainly to, um, get you as close to that goal as, uh, as we can, and we'd have to outline for you, um, what some of those, urn .... cuts may need to be or .... or, um, reductions in service may need to be depending on how large of an increase you wanna seek. Weiner/ I mean I'm really happy that you brought that up, uh, Mazahir, because I think that ... that now in alignment with some of, lot of the other things we're working on, including, um, the Black Lives Matter and what we .... what we set forth in our strategic plan, would be a really good time, uh, for a .... for a small group to sit down and try and ... and outline a serious way forward on this to, um, to .... to take what the City has done before but look at maybe other ways of converting existing housing or(mumbled) whatever the.... whatever the possibilities are, but this ... urn, I'm, anyway I'm glad you brought it up now. Salih/ I really want to, like to hear from other Council because this is, uh, we ... we going to create soon the committee for affordable housing, and uh.... housing is not going to come just like that. We need money for it, and if there is a way if we can, uh, work with our staff right now to figure out ways ... uh, I thinks will be great. Uh, I really wanna see what you guys think. Teague/ For me personally I was hoping, um, to actually go through some of the, uh.... some of our 17 points to ... just to kinda see where we are along the way, and then make some tentative plans, uh, for creatin' those, urn .... uh.....more committees or more meeting... whatever we need to do to move forward. So, um, I ... I believe that we do need to look at that big plan for affordable housin', which we've been wantin' to do, and uh, been talkin' This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 3 about. I ... I think that conversation does need to be had, because urn... we're.... we're still at the starting point, uh, with housin', and so we need to move forward with that. Taylor/ I think our, the last time our ...our staff, our City staff, did an admirable job of putting together that 15 -point affordable housing plan, and a lot of good things came out of that, uh, including that South District duplex plan, uh, so I think they are an excellent resource. I mean that's the Neighborhood and Development Services, that's part of their job, uh, to look for resources for affordable housing options, as well as we've got excellent resources out there. The aff..we have the Affordable Housing Coalition for heaven's sake. Sara Barron, she's probably on the line now. She's always there for us, she's always got a lot of ideas, um, she knows what's out there and what needs to be done as well as Crissy over at Shelter House knows what's needed. So I think we've got a lot of those resources that we ... we need to utilize, as well as forming our own committee. Thomas/ One ... one thing I would add is with the, you know, the 15 points that Pauline just mentioned, is I recall, uh, we never .... we never completed the 151' point. I believe it had to do with rezoning, you know, ways in which our zoning ordinance could be revised, uh, tweaked, what ... what have you, to, urn .... to improve the affor...(garbled) Um, both infill as well as new development, and ... and that seemed to me a pretty strong point, um, you know, that could potentially, uh, allow for considerably more cost-efficient housing should we revise our codes to allow for, uh, that ... that higher level of affordability. Frain/ You know that ... that item is still in progress. We have .... we have made some good headway with that. We've received great input from the Home Builder's Association, and the Affordable Homes Coalition, and uh, we just need to spin that up and get that goin'. So that ... that definitely is in progress, and one of the things I wanna emphasize, um, with our ...our current, um, plan is just because we were able to check those 14 boxes or whatever the number was, uh, doesn't mean that, you know, nothing else is happening. Um, a lot of those items were just .... we're kicking off new programs, um, and ... and those programs are ... are, you k now, forever in motion, uh, until we .... until we change direction. So hopefully you'll see that, and I think, um, I don't know the exact date it'll come out in the information packet, but I know that, uh, Tracy and Erika and staff are working hard on an annual report, that'll be very comprehensive and show you, uh, exactly where we have invested those affordable housing dollars, and I think that would be a good launching point into a Council work session on, okay, this is what we've done and here's, uh, perhaps where we need to go in terms of elevating, um, the resources needed. So, um, we'll definitely be prepared to get you started with that conversation. Mims/ I think for me, um, you know, as we look at this budget for 22, given COVID, um, given, you know, the concerns that we've heard from staff about potential reductions in property taxes, um, we know that our hotel/motel tax is ... has been basically non-existence here... non-existent for six months, we know our road use tax has been way down. I'm ... really reluctant to .... look at this point in terms of increasing any specific spending. Um, I think we've been, you know, been really fortunate to be able to get the affordable housing up to the million dollars. I'm certainly comfortable keeping it there. I think has kinda.... has that pretty well line itemed, and I think once we get that report, um, and have maybe This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 4 more specific ideas, then that might give us, um, maybe more detail as to where we can have a really, you know, big impact on some of this more affordable, um .... how do I wanna say it? Affordable housing is not costing us as much, you know, because whether it's, you know, reusing, reutilizing, um, older housing that we know is ... is cheaper to do than building new, um, and trying to get the biggest bang for our buck, um, and at that point if we feel like there's some specific projects that really, uh, are worthwhile in terms of, urn.... elevating or...or getting more money, leveraging more money I guess is the term I want, and I'm certainly open to adding to that pot, but .... um, until then I ... I guess.. I'm really not comfortable with adding any specific big dollar amounts or projects to this budget yet. Thomas/ Well I'll introduce, uh, I think I had three items that I wanted to bring up. Uh, I'd brought them up before. I think I'm kind of in some ways looking at them with slightly different eyes insofar as we've been going through COVID-19 and Black Lives Matter, because I think, uh, they .... they play a factor in these three. Uh, but I'll run through them (clears throat) The ... the first is addressing the equity gaps in the park facilities that were identified in the park master plan for, uh, park facilities. Uh, that was a plan that we developed in September, or adopted in September of 2017. So it's almost been three years, and um, that plan identified three locations, uh.... east, the east edge of the west district and portions of the west -central and central districts as defined in that plan. Um, sol...I do think, we're almost three years past when the plan was adopted. Uh, with the emphasis on Black Lives Matter, I think it's important that we take an opportunity to address those inequities, and then what I found, uh, with COVID-19, where we were and in fact still are in some respects, sheltering in place, urn .... the need for readily accessible park facilities really was emphasized over the last several months for me and I know for our neighbors, uh, and so .... we haven't seen the last of the COVIDs, I'm afraid. I think they will be back and in any event, um, I think it's important to strengthen our neighborhoods so that, uh, we ... we do have them well distributed across Iowa City. So that's one. Uh, the second would be, uh, restoring our urban tree canopy. Uh, we roughly a year or so ago, I think it must have been the last budget cycle, we were talking about, and Project GREEN was a part of this conversation, uh, planting 10,000 trees, uh, both on public and private property, as I recall. Part of that was I think in response to Emerald Ash Borer, which I think we lost roughly 3,000 trees to ... to Emerald Ash Borer. Uh, since then, uh, we had a derecho pass through and lost another thousand or so trees. Um .... I've been hearing from a number of people that are really .... both concerned with what the state of our urban forest and really view it as an opportunity for community engagement, uh, and... and achieving something that will be a very strong, positive action to take as a city and as a community. Uh, there's been lots of discussion that I've been hearing in hopes to truly use a ... an urban forestry replanting as an opportunity for the community to volunteer in that experience, uh, that it wouldn't be reliant strictly on staff. As Susan mentioned, you know, funding is going to be an issue. So how can we leverage the community, um, so to speak and help with the planting. I was just talking with Janice earlier today, uh, I think we .... we might find interest among our students ... to participate in such a program. And I think volunteering, uh, on a tree planting, I think we can accomplish that social distancing while doing it. So it's something we can move forward on, uh, in a group. It could be a group volunteer effort while still maintaining the safe This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 5 distance. Uh, so that would be number two. And the third has to do with ... issues of traffic safety, you know ...you know how interested I am in that. Uh, but the new wrinkle there for me was in discussions over Black Lives Matter and realizing that .... uh.... as we know, our .... our streets in some.....some areas are conducive to speeds higher than our speed limits. That results in ... a situation where, you know, you have such a high degree of speeding that it's really the discretion of the police officer as to how to enforce those speeds. So ... with that discretion, as we have ... have seen, uh, we often see disproportionate contact with ... with our black residents. So through.... aligning, uh, better alignment of our traffic, actual speeds with the ... what we want the speeds to be through road diets and other measures, uh, I ... and by dropping the speeds, uh, we will take away some of that discretion, because it will no longer be necessary. The traffic will be moving at the appropriate speed. So I'm ... I'm hoping we can, uh.... utilize, you know, this may not be a high cost measure because in many cases with road diets, as we've seen, uh, we're not moving, necessarily moving curb alignments. We're just simply reallocating the, um, right-of-way. Uh, so I ... I do think we would not only improve traffic safety, advance our, uh, you know, enhance mobility for walking and bicycling. It would also have a social equity aspect to it. Um .... so that .... that's the third item, um, that I would like to, uh, put before you. Bergus/ I'll just respond to the .... I'm sorry, Mayor! Um, the ... the affordable housing question. Um, I think that, yeah, we need to absolutely look at that in the context of our, um, current focus on our 17 -point resolution. When I looked at the memo asking for additional thoughts on guidance for budgeting, I ... I reviewed the strategic plan goals that we set forth just so recently and am still totally onboard with those, and when I think about maybe some tweaks that have happened since we approved that, the conversation about affordable housing certainly has come, um, more into focus, and the idea of having the plan. So, I think some.... some acknowledgment of elevating that in recognition to ... and what we've done with our 17 -point resolution since the adoption of our strategic plan for the coming years makes a lot of sense to me. Um, and I think that having a... getting that work session conversation from staff on the current state of things and sort of the, um, not just where all the funds are allocated currently but also that the last item of the 15 -point plan and where we are with that and directions we might go. So ... I .... I think that's great. Um, and more generally my only other comment was just to, you know, when we look at the goals from our strategic plan, and I know Geoff said let's just focus on new things, but for myself you know just making sure that the social justice and racial equity continue to be in the forefront in our, um, budget process for the coming year. Salih/ Okay, just the last thing I wanna say on this affordable housing. So I know that maybe we gonna have, uh, a work session about it, uh, but uh.... I really I'm not like budget experience, like the staff of course, but just like by looking at the budget and seeing that sometime we .... we borrow money to do some project, I'm just gonna ask Geoff if we can do the same thing and using the affordable housing money (mumbled) because I know that 50% of the million will go to the Housing Trust Fund, I understand that, but there is another like 50% with the like land banking money or any of the money (garbled) for affordable housing if we can borrow money and .... and use that money to pay, uh, for that, that's could be an option. I really don't know, but sometime I just look at it and see This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 6 that, but I thinks you can come up with ... the staff can come with a creative, uh, you know, solution for this, or creative ideas that we can use, uh, to find some fund for affordable housing. I'm really looking forward to have a work session just specifically for that, and also just encouraging the staff to come up with ideas, because you guys have the experience on this things and if we ... you can ... you can find out like some creative solution. Fruin/ Yes, um, the short answer is yes you can bond for affordable housing projects, and if that's desired by the Council, um, you'll just need to consider, um, you know, where you wanna position the City in tennis of, uh, the amount of debt that we carry. Uh, so do you want to reduce bonding for other items or do you wanna bond additional dollars, and if so you may have to raise your debt service tax levy, but we can walk you through those scenarios and talk to you about the limitations that might accompany a bond for... for, uh.... um, affordable housing. Um, one of the .... one of the big points of the plan that we, um, presented a few years ago was to make sure that, uh, the funding for affordable housing was, um, kind of permanently inserted into the budget, and I think we've gotten to that point, uh, absent major financial crisis where we feel really good that ... that we have these stable funds in there, but you all know that one of the other things we've been working on is identifying other funding sources for affordable housing as well. So, um, you know an example of that is the, uh, tax increment financing project we did on the Foster Road extension. Um, a lot of the increment that is developed from the senior housing project that was completed up there and any future development that .... that comes from that area in the next 10 years, um, that will spin off additional dollars for affordable housing that can be added to the million dollars and invested in the community. Um, similar we have the fee in lieu of provisions in our Riverfrom Crossings District too. Those are monies that we have collected and we can put to use. So, um, just keep in mind that there are other revenue sources that are slowly developing, um, as...as, um, as these things take a little bit of time to accumulate. Um, but those revenue sources will be ... will be increasing over time, um, and we can look at new ones as well, whether that's bonding or utility taxes or any number of alternative revenues that could be available for you. Salih/ Thank you. Teague/ Yeah, I ... I'll be lookin' forward to that opportunity that Council will have to get that report and hear from staff. All right, any other ...uh, thoughts for budget items that people wanna put out there? Salih/ (mumbled) talk to us about, am .... the budget for policing. Frain/ Well we'll.... we'll, um, part of the reason that your resolution has a preliminary plan date of September 15`h is so that we can try to anticipate any changes you wanna make to the police budget. Um, we, uh... uh, you know, until we get really moving forward, um, on that restructuring plan, um, there is no ... there is no, urn... direction in place to ... to significantly alter that police department budget. Um, I could tell you we have some ideas, and you see one of those on your agenda tonight, uh, for some new, uh, civilian This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 7 positions in the ... in the police department, and we'd like to get to the point where we can present those to you, but uh, certainly want to allow you and the community to have some more conversation and for some more ideas to be shared, um, about, um .... uh, ways in which the City can respond, either um ... uh, inside of the department, uh, with different approaches or investments we can make outside of the department that would, um, also assist our .... our, um, officers in some way. Salih/ Okay. Thank you very much! Teague/ Geoff, I have a question for you related to .... are there, oftentimes we know the departments have been, um, kinda asking for things, uh, either staff or, um, programs that may not have been funded. Is there anything that you or...and I would actually extend this to any other, uh, City staff that are here, um, puttin' ya on the spot, but is there anything that you can think of that Council should be thinkin' about for consideration, um, that can ... um, of course it would be something significant, potentially. Fruin/ Well, um, yeah, I'll jump in. I think one of the major, um ... um, Councilor Mims mentioned earlier, we're entering a ... a period of uncertainty with our finances. Uh, with COVID we don't know how quickly we're going to emerge financially from the COVID crisis. Um, we've had to cut significant dollars already out of this year's current budget, um, to ... to manage through the COVID crisis, and we don't know how quickly that'll re- emerge, and then we also, um, have the last few years of the, uh, property tax reform which we're, uh, which we are anticipating to be the most, uh, significant in terms of the financial impact to the City. So, one, we're operating in a context where we have, um, a strain on our resources. In addition, uh, we're not gonna see our tax base grow like we've seen in the last five to seven years. Um, you get ... you get the, uh, building permit reports once a month in your information packets, and urn ... uh, you can see, if you were to look and compare those to previous years, the .... the, um, development activity this year, uh, is .... is quite suppressed compared to .... to past years. Uh, we're probably going to end up at a valuation, uh, of permits that, uh, we haven't seen in ... in 10 or more years. That's how low it's gonna be, and so the .... you have to anticipate what that impact is, and it's not .... it's not an immediate impact, but two or three years from now, um, when those taxes come on, uh... um, they're gonna be a lot lower and we're gonna be more constrained. So we just have to keep that in mind, but to your specific question, Mayor, I think the biggest challenge that we're going to find is with the transit study. Um, and ... and you're gonna be lookin' at that on October 6'. That's our plan, at your work session, is to present to you, uh, the recommendations from that transit study, and right now we're operating in an environment where our ridership is down 60 to 70%, uh, and that has a significant impact on our revenue. Um, and I think the community has high expectations for what we're going to be able to do with ... with transit, and ... and we never anticipated finishing up this report with ridership down this low, and uh, even if. ... even if COVID ... COVID is behind us, in ... in 2021, we don't know if that ridership will return. Um, people are finding other ways to move about. Um, they may not be comfortable with public transit because of the ... their COVID experience, and so we have to really be careful with how we're projecting transit revenue going forward. Um (clears throat) we were also really, um, banking on the idea that we could use parking funds to help This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 8 supplement transit, and ... and really move some.... some excess parking funds into the transit fund, um, to ... to bolster those services. And as you know, parking has been the hardest hit area of operations that we have with COVID. So our two biggest funding sources that were gonna support our transit investment are ... are down, and ... and there's some tough decisions, uh, coming a ... uh, coming up ahead on how we're gonna fund Sunday service, how we're gonna fund expanded, uh, night and weekend service, if that's what we wanna do, and that could require, um, an investment, um, from other sources that we weren't anticipating, whether that's general fund, again utility taxes, sales taxes, things like that that ... that we really weren't banking on for that idea. So, Mayor, that's probably the biggest item that .... that gives me concern headed into this budget prep is how are we gonna meet those community expectations with ... with those two, uh, revenue sources, um, currently just bein' clobbered by this COVID pandemic. Teague/ I do know that it's been a challenge, of course, for the City, um, resources. Um, hotel/ motel tax is down, um, that we get. Um .... as far as the transit study and some of the hopes that Council, um, I don't know if I'm speakin' for everybody, but one of the hopes that I think we had was for there to be some type of submission for zero fare, um, as an option. What .... what would that entail? And it sounds like of course that, um, do you still think we'll get that as an option ... in what will be presented? Fruin/ I mean we'll have kind of a menu of...of options that can be pursued. Um, at the time (mumbled) little bit off memory here but I think moving to zero option is ... or I'm sorry, zero fare option was somewhere in the neighborhood of $1.5 to $2 million. That's the revenue loss that we would have to replace to do that, and um, again we were kinda gonna lean on parking, uh, to hopefully be a big ... be a big part of that solution, and so I don't know right now where ... where we're .... where we could find $2 million, for example, to go fare free. Um, I think that's gonna probably take, urn .... um .... I'm not su... I don't even know what that would take right now. You know, the type of funding source that we would need for that is ... is probably your local option sales tax, um, and, uh... uh, that's of course a tough decision for ...for Council to contemplate, um, during a, you know, during a time where... where, uh, folks are struggling so much. So, uh, Mayor, yes it will be an option. We'll present you with those numbers, uh, we'll kinda walk you through, um, how we might get there. Um .... but making decisions this fall and even this winter on ... on transit's going to be very difficult because we won't know what that ridership rebound is and we certainly won't know what the parking rebound is, uh, so, urn .... we'll navigate those discussions the best we can, but they're.... they're definitely going to be tricky. Teague/ Yeah, I'm .... I'm personally looking forward to that because I do know that there's still need out there and, uh, the community has really come out, I ... I think strongly, um, and.... and talked about their need for Sunday service, and uh (laughs) evening service, late-night service. The Harrison Street, uh, parkin' ramp, when we spent some of that money, um, some of those reserves, could that have gone towards transit? Fruin/ No, not ... not the...not those reserves. That ... that, those could not have been dedicated, uh, towards transit. Um, what we were contemplating initially with the, uh, with the parking This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 9 fund, um, would be a increase in meter and permit fees. And using that increase in those fees to generate, um, operational dollars to, uh, to pay for that, because, um, one of the things .... one of the things you have to consider, um, and this would apply to our general fund reserves. If...if you know that we need $2 million for fare -free and you just took $2 million from our reserves, well that buys you one year of fare -free and now you gotta figure out how ya gonna pay for year two of fare -free and if you keep takin' from reserves, eventually that bank account runs dry. So we really look to .... to make sure that we have sustainable funds for an initiative like that, unless the intention of Council is really to do a pilot program, where the community knows there's an expiration date, um, you really need to find operational dollars, and that's why an increase in permits would still be there year after year, or an increase in meter fees, uh, would still be there year... uh, year after year. Urn ... uh, whereas reserves, you know, eventually would... would dry up, so that ... that's what makes that .... that a little bit more difficult. COVID-19 Update: Teague/ Thank you! Any other budget items? All right! Hearing none, well I think we'll move on to COVID-19 updates. We, uh, are certainly seeing some increases in our community. Um .... I .... I wonder if, um, is there anyone that wanted to say anything about COVID- 19? Thomas/ I had, uh, one comment on that, and it's, um, it's, again, related to traffic. Um, that, you know, I believe we had in place, uh.... a change to our .... uh, traffic stop policy, kinda taking a soft approach to ... to lower the, um, number of...of stops, uh, due to ... due to COVID, and uh, as I understand it, I think we've lifted that to some degree. Um, I would .... I would suggest if we haven't already to go back to a more restricted, uh, policy with respect to the stops and only... only, um, enforce what we felt was really critical for public safety issues, um, so that we do sort of avoid ... uh, you know, the unnecessary, the unessential stops. Fruin/ I might provide some context for other Councilors or the public that may be listening. When .... when the COVID pandemic, uh... urn .... uh, really hit us in mid-March, um, we pulled back on, uh, not just traffic enforcement, but a lot of enforcement activities to ... to try to make sure that we limited officer contact with the public, keep our department healthy, uh, keep the public healthy, and really just focus in on those, uh, urgent public safety matters. Um, we have not returned to, uh, pre-COVID enforcement, um, but certainly as we saw, uh, more and more people, uh, coming downtown and enjoying nightlife, um, we felt, um, it was really needed, particularly around, uh, OWI enforcement. And so we have, um ... uh, started looking for, uh, you know, um, enforcement opportunities. You know, if we see, you k now, if we see issues related to that, but really focusing in on that drunk and impaired driving, that's where ... that's where that focus is. Um, any stop we make we ... we should feel that there's a pressing, you know, a public safety issue. Urn .... uh, so, um, while we're not necessarily running radar, um, like we would have been, uh, in a normal year, we still are, um ... uh, identifying reckless driving and things like that and making stops, as .... as needed. We're just not This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 10 doing the proactive, again running radar, uh... uh, type of enforcement that ... that we normally would. Weiner/ Um, I'd actually just like to speak to the severity (goes silent) Iowa has the worst COVID outbreak in the nation right now, basically the third worst in the world, if we were a country all by ourselves. And Iowa City and Ames, um, are ... are leading the pack, which is not a place where any of us wanted to be. Um, the ... I know that the Faculty Senate was meeting this afternoon to give recommendations to University President Harreld. I'm hoping that all levels of government are really going to work together, uh, really swiftly on whatever we need to, but I wanted to give you a little perspective, um, of what, sort of basically what we're doing right now with the numbers that have been coming out of..of positive cases, we're looking somewhat... they're all lagging indicators, we're looking in the rearview mirror. Um, and there's a .... there's sort of a .... there are, the weeks of COVID and the rule of weeks goes that if you're infected today, um, within—within a week, if you're going to have symptoms, you'll have symptoms. It's two weeks, it's basically two weeks from infection that you'll end up in hospital if you're going to end up in hospital. A week after that, if you have to be transferred to the ICU and a week after that, um, ends up with mortality. So we have no idea right now what the burden is going to be on our healthcare facilities and, um, it's really incumbent on everyone in this city, and everyone in Johnson County, to continue using face coverings to ... to do social distancing, to stay home if you can, to sanitize, to do whatever you can, because whether we realize it or not, the measures we've taken to date are actually... are actually, if we hadn't taken the measures, the situation would be even worse than it is. So the ... this is, um, I ... I would like to see, personally, the University go all online, like now, um, and we're also going to have many, many students, um, stay here regardless of what the University does. So they're all part of our community. We need to work together, and everyone needs to take care of everyone else. Teague/ I did wanna mention, um, the Governor's order in relationship to, uh, the six counties that were, uh, closed. Um, that ... there is some bar and restaurant closures. Um, and so that happened on the... September 20`h. Um, Johnson County was a part of that closure, um, and so ... urn, I ... and I'm ... I'm gonna try to find, um, because the ... the, um, the Alcohol and Beverage Division, uh, as well as the Department of Inspections and Appeals are a part of the ... um .... the, I guess what you would call the ... to ensure enforcement, um, or to assist with compliance, um, even during the day, and so I actually had a conversation with them on Monday, on Monday and um, the Alcoholic and Beverage Division does have, um, some ways that they've been engagin' with people in the community, um, when there is an incident, that they notice. They're tryin' to be non- punitive, of course, where they're tryin' to engage in conversation, uh, to ensure that people understand what it means to, um, operate under the current guidance of the Governor. And so I would encourage any of the businesses out there that are still operating, uh, to reach out to the website of the, uh, the Alcohol and (mumbled) Alcohol and Beverages Division, because they do have some great resources. There are some questions and answers, uh, where people can go and just ask some questions, um, or...or find some answers to how they can... effectively operate durin' COVID. So it is abd.iowa.gov/coronavirus,um,/COVID-19. So, um, if they reach out through that This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 11 website they'll be able to get some information, um, and again I know that it's a challenge in our community to have to have some closures, um, within our community, uh, and even (mumbled) of alcohol at 10:00 P.M. I know that for a lot of businesses that's a huge part of their revenue, and so we know, uh, there ... there are people that are challenged by that, and some entities, they can't open at all because their entire operation is after 10:00 P.M. Um, so ... uh, my heart goes out especially to our local businesses that are havin' some challenges there, uh, but just wanted to make mention of the ... the closin' of the bars, which ultimately the hope is safety, and to get the numbers down in our community. Taylor/ I echo what you just (garbled) Mayor, uh, I ... I too am sorry that it came to that, and of course it was the Governor's plan to .... to shut down those bars and just in those six counties, which noticeably it was college towns, university towns, and ... and that's sad, cause it will affect our economy, uh, but I think that stresses to people, uh, please, please avoid large crowds, uh, don't ... since the bars are closed, don't ... don't have the large gatherings, the large parties, uh, and if you do, uh, at least maintain social distance and... and wear a mask. It is serious. This is getting very serious. When our numbers, uh, at first when we did the mask mandate, thank you for that, a while back, Mayor, uh, we were in maybe 10 to 12 to 14 new cases a day, but then we started rising, 70, 80, 90, 100s, uh, that's.... that's scary. This is very serious. People need to pay attention and... and follow some guidelines. Continue discussion of Resolution (20-159) of Initial Council Commitments addressing the Black Lives Matter Movement and Systemic Racism in the wake of the murder of George Floyd by the Minneapolis Police and calls for action from protesters and residents (IP4): Teague/ All right! Well, we're gonna move on if no one else has any more comments. And we're gonna continue our discussion on our resolution with, uh, Black Lives Matter Movement and systemic racism, and so ... um, well .... we'll have at it! I, and ... and maybe if we can, one thing that I do hope today is to bring up, um, IP4, which actually has, uh, the resolution itself and kinda the matrix of where we are. I think it could be helpful if we can look at that during this discussion. And so I would have to rely on Kellie or someone from the IT team to bring that up. I should have pre -prepared you (laughs) that that was gonna happen, from IP4. (several talking, garbled) Mims/ I'm sorry, if I could while she's trying to do that. One of the, actually one of the first items on there is, um, developing our preliminary plan to restructure the Iowa City Police Department. And one of the things we've talked about (clears throat) excuse me, talked about a few times is the need for public input, and we, you know, we talked about scheduling some dates, and I think we ... we've just been busy. We've kind of worked around this or kind of glossed it over as we've, you know, kind of been busy and moving from meeting to meeting. So I looked at the calendar today and I apologize, I didn't have a chance to get this out to everybody, um, ahead of time, but what ... and I can send it into Kellie later so she can get it out to everybody, but I'll just throw out six dates that I came up with and I thought maybe we could get on the calendar, um, in the next six weeks or so, and then ... uh, everybody could kind of let Kellie know which one or ones might work This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 12 for them. So I'll just run through them real quickly, and like I say, I'll send them to Kellie so she can get `em out to everybody and .... but if you know right away you see issues. Uh, in order to actually have some time to ... to announce these, I ... first one I put out was Wednesday, um, September 16' potentially at Mercer. Then going to Tuesday, September 22nd, doing a Zoom meeting. Um, Saturday, September 261i at Pheasant Ridge. At 10:00 A.M. Uh, the evening ones I was suggesting 5:30 was just my idea. Tuesday the 291i at Wetherby. Monday, October 51', either at Robert A. Lee Recreation Center or out in the Chauncey Park, depending, you know, maybe on weather. Um, and Thursday, October 8", again a Zoom meeting. So, I mean if you see any problems with those right away, um, I'm glad to hear it, or if once you actually get it in writing, um, if you see any conflicts that ... with major, you know, events in the community that I've overlooked then maybe let Kellie know that and we can make some adjustments. Um, 1. I've tried to kinda go east and west side on a couple of these, as well as Zoom meetings. Um, Pheasant Ridge is really kind of the only one on the west side. If you think there's another, uh, good location, I .... and I put one downtown. I don't know for sure if that's the best place, um, depending on who we're trying to get and everything, but I.Yrn certainly open for any ideas and suggestions. I just was concerned that time kept going by and we weren't getting anything on the calendar. So I wanted to at least throw out a tentative schedule, uh, with locations, urn ... for feedback so we can get started with this. Salih/ (mumbled) thinking about like, um, physical meeting? Mims/ I am, and that's why I was looking like at Mercer. Um, if the weather's okay we could do it outside and be physically distanced. If not, if the weather's not good, um, potentially if the gym would be available and still be able to do physical distancing, that's why I was also looking at, um, Robert A. Lee or the Chauncey. I ... but that's also why I've included a couple of Zoom.... suggesting a couple of Zoom ones. So if people aren't comfortable coming in person and socially distancing with masks and face coverings that they could do a Zoom one. So to give people, uh, different opportunities, depending on what they're comfortable with. And I ... I'm certainly open to suggestion. I just wanted to at least get something on the table because we've been talking about this for quite a while and December's going to be here before we know it, and need to get some public input! So... Teague/ Yeah, I ... I mean I certainly know the need to really engage people in our community. Um, I ... I, one of the questions that I would have is what .... what do we need to do in preparation? Um, I know that we have, um, we're waitin' for the military -grade equipment inventory review.... report, um .... transparent and accessible. I, you know, uh, budget details ... I'm not sure that's, you know, if that's all that we want to have ready before we do that. The question will be will that be ready. Um, but I am ... I mean I think it'd be...what you proposed as far as like timing -wise, I think it's, um, it could be ... uh, potentially a good time. I just wonder what is it that we wanna have out there, or is it really just listenin' to the community and hearin' input from the community about (both talking) Mims/ Mayor, I think that's a really good question, and my suggestion on that, um, I know Laura and Janice and I have talked a little bit about this, urn .... is I think we need to, um, and I This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 13 think, you know, everybody can kind of send in ideas. I think to go to a meeting like this and simply ask people, um, how do you think we should restructure the police department is ... is a really big question and one that I think is gonna be really, really difficult for people to necessarily give constructive input to if they don't understand, you know, a lot about policing and how it works. So I would think that if we could ... um, come up with a list of potential ideas, um, for people to react to and at least be a starting point in the conversations. For example, John has proposed, and he did this on our .... our Zoom meeting last week with a couple members of IFR, the whole idea of, you know, being able to reduce interactions, um, in the traffic stops by using cameras. Now ...I'm probably the only one that was on Council when we actually had a .... uh.... a signed, not a petition, I can't remember the word, but anyways, from the public to ban the use of cameras. So we'll have some heavy lifting to do if we're going to do that, but to start with some ideas like that, you know, would you rather see cameras used for, you know, running red lights or things like that, rather than have police doing those stops. What do you think about, um, hiring mental health professionals or maybe expanding, um, the, uh, I am sorry tonight! My mind is ... going blank here on my terminology. Uh, mobile crisis! You know, expanding agencies like mobile crisis who can respond alongside police officers, etc. I think any ideas that we can come up with to, um, kind of put on a list and give to people, just kind of start that conversation, would be really helpful, because I think otherwise people are sitting there like, uh, what do you mean? We just don't want `em to be racist and we don't want `em to be biased and we don't want `em to target people and we don't want `em to be violent, and I mean, so I think starting that conversation with some ideas would be helpful. Taylor/ I think that's an excellent idea, Susan. I mean we could even do it the sa... similar to how the Climate Action Commission originally did it, with the little stickies and the priorities, you know, people could, uh, like itemize which ones from one to six, what ... what they feel are the most important and where we should really start, and back to John's idea about the traffic cameras, and I appreciate your historical perspective, um, but I think, uh, the climate's kinda different now and I think John has stressed all along that ... that those cameras don't see color, and so that ... that's, uh, kind of the important thing on that as far as to stress that, uh, that it wouldn't necessarily be stopping a person of color. Uh, the light wouldn't see. All it sees is the, uh, or the camera wouldn't see (mumbled) sees is the license plate. It doesn't see the driver or the color of the driver. So I think stressing that point might help sell the cameras. Teague/ One .... one thing I will say is, uh, I've been amazed to some of the conversations I've been engaged with, in ... in terms of reimaginin' police, um ... there are, uh, various people out there that, um, have some background on what... community policin' could look like or just certain aspects of, um, policing. Um, so we might be highly surprised at the information that we get in this type of....in this type of a setting. Bergus/ I think two work sessions ago maybe we had some really good ideas about the kind of information we might want to have available also. So even I would say maybe before we are presenting, or concurrent with presenting ideas, um, just the ... the current state of affairs, like the current statistics, and as we have different areas of town where we hope This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 14 to be talking with people, having available that data. Um, I think Geoff had indicated that that would be definitely doable to ... to have there in terms of, um, you know, what are the kinds of interactions that occur with police in this neighborhood, um, so that we can maybe help identify those areas for improvement that would be specific to different parts of town. And then also having available for us the current state of policies. Um, where, you know, we've done, I think we've done a really good job of making more transparent on the website, um, what current policies are, but just also, you know, sort of, uh, preparing ourselves as we're going into these meetings with what the current policies are and that the really immediate changes that we've made and the changes underway. So we can be talking contextually with what we've... what we already kind of know is happening and then have this big, um, more open conversation about what can happen. Fruin/ One thing I would, uh, encourage, and (clears throat) I ... I agree with, uh, Councilor Mims in that as you ... as you hear people talk about, um, reimagining the police department, um, a lot of the same themes come through, and ... and people may state `em different ways, but it's a lot of -how as a community do we wanna address homelessness, how do we wanna address mental health, how do we wanna address addiction services or youth services. If..if you have themes around, uh, if you decide to have themes around your listening posts, I just really encourage you to ... to bring in some of your ...your local social service providers, non-profit providers, that have that expertise, and almost treat it as a... as a roundtable discussion, where .... where not only the community can provide input, but they can hear from those providers, and they can maybe, uh, even learn about some of the efforts that are .... that are underway. I ... I don't think there's very many people in the community that know about the mobile crisis unit and what it does here. Um, it would be very beneficial, I think, to .... to bring in the staff that works on that, 365 days a year, and... and talk, uh, to them about what it is and, um, how they see that type of service expanding and ... and how they collaborate with law enforcement and how they could enhance collaborations with law enforcement going forward, to ensure that best outcomes for folks. Um, I think you'll have a lot more productive conversations that way in these listening posts and I ... and I think it'll go a long way towards community education as well. Teague/ All right, any other thoughts on that? Fruin/ Would you like us to go ahead and... and work with Council offline to get the dates that Susan mentioned scheduled... with each of ya and ... and find various Council Members to look ... look at those dates. Is that ... somethin' we should follow up on? Teague/ I guess my question would be is how many Councilors, um, and maybe Eleanor can chime in on this, are we gonna be limited to how many Councilors can be present? Mims/ I would assume three. Salih/Yeah, three. Dilkes/ Okay! (laughs) Yes, three! This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 15 Teague/ Okay. All right. I didn't know if there was any way we could be present and listening or...but we can go with three. Dilkes/ Well, you could... actually, you know, it's the old (mumbled) stump rule, um, that we refer to, meaning if you go and you sit and you don't say anything or participate at all, then you can have more than three. That's hard to do ... that's hard to do when the conversation is about something that is so within your purview. Taylor/ Eleanor, does that still hold true if it's posted as a Zoom meeting and ... and that's the agenda on the Zoom meeting, does that still hold true that we couldn't all be on that Zoom? Dilkes/ Well I think .... I think the same rules apply. I mean if you're on the Zoom meeting and you're being like a tree stump, sure! If you're on the Zoom meeting and you're participating in the conversation, no. Mims/ But ... but the problem, Eleanor, if...if I'm understanding this correctly, if there's four of us there, all four of us have to act like a tree stump, correct? We can't have three participating and one act like a stump. Correct? Dilkes/ Correct. Mims/ Yeah, so in that case, I would strongly urge that we do not go over three because I think it's really important that we are there as Council Members actively engaging with the community. I think they're going to be very frustrated if they have four of us there and we say, `Oh well sorry, there's four of us; we can't talk to you.' If I were a community member, I would not be happy! (several talking) Weiner/ I think there are going to be enough meetings that, um, that find ... that it's, that three will be just plenty as we spread ourselves out. Teague/ I wonder if, um, since we're all together right now, if we wouldn't take maybe the next three minutes or less to look at our calendars and, uh, try to assign who's gonna be where, preliminarily. We have Wednesday the 16`h, Tuesday the 22 ad, Saturday the 27', Monday the 29`h, correct me if I'm wrong (laughs) And then October 5`h. I don't know what day of the week that is. (several talking, garbled) Salih/ What was the first one? Teague/ Uh... um, September 16`h. Wednesday. Salih/ Laura, do you wanna do that with me? Bergus/ Yeah, that would be great! This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 16 Salih/ Okay. Bergus/ Thank you! Teague/ And I think we have, um, I think we have the opportunity of, uh, people, some people doin' it three times or...or twice if we want three people. Or are people thinkin' just two individuals? Mims/ I mean I think if people wanna be there, everybody gets, you know, at least two to three opportunities to do it, then I say the more the merrier, so we can all get as much input as possible. Teague/ Okay. Taylor/ Janice, would you be able to do the Saturday the 26`h at Pheasant Ridge, since that's kinda in our neck of the woods, our neighborhood? Would you be able to do that? And I would do it with you? Weiner/ Um ... sure! Teague/ What day of the week? I mean, which .... which date? Taylor/ The Saturday the 26`h, at, uh, Pheasant Ridge. I think you ... you said two times, Susan. I think you said a 10 or a 5:30, which ... which one was for that, Susan? Mims/ I guess I was thinking 10:00 on Saturday and 5:30 for the ones during the week, was just my suggestion. Taylor/ Okay. Sounds good! Weiner/ Did somebody else wanna join on the 26`h9 Teague/ Um, I can certainly join! Salih/ And, Laura, do you wanna do the South District? Bergus/ Yeah, I'd like to do the Wetherby one also. Salih/ The Wetherby? Bergus/ Yeah, Wetherby the 291h. Salih/ Oh! Is the Wetherby the 29`h? I saw the Wetherby is the one, is the first one? Bergus/ I think the first one is Mercer, which I'm also interested in. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 17 Salih/ Okay, I can ... yeah! Okay. Fruin/ Folks, just to remind, uh, Wetherby's under construction right now, um .... and I don't know if I would .... 29th the trail project will also be under construction. Um, it's a big park and there's probably ample opportunities to sit, but just to let you know that, um, you might deal with some construction traffic while you're there. Teague/ Okay, so (both talking) Mims/ ...were you going to do the 29`h also with Laura? Salih/ Yeah, I can do that, no problem. Teague/ And I .... I can jump on there, at Wetherby. Salih/ Yes! Okay. Teague/ So it seems that we have.... Weiner/ How bout the Tuesday, September 22"d Zoom, I would also volunteer to do that. Mims/ I'll do that with you, Janice. Thomas/ I can do that one too. Teague/ All right (both talking) Mims/ ...Monday the 5`h. Bergus/ I can do that one too. Salih/ Where is that at, Susan? Mims/ Uh, it's either at Robert A. Lee or the Chauncey Park. Um ... so we need to kinda get that figured out. Taylor/ I could do that too. This is Pauline. Mims/ So Laura and Pauline and myself. Salih/ Okay. Teague/ Um, one .... one thought came to mind. I don't know if, um, we can do some special efforts to get some of the youth involved. Mims/ Okay! This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 18 Teague/ To come out. Salih/ Well if we can do one at the Dream Center. Mims/ (mumbled) that's a possibility! Taylor/ That's an excellent idea. Weiner/ It's a really good idea. Longenecker/ We can also advertise the USG for students in the area that would like to come, and post that through our social media channels and so on, um, if that would help. Teague/ Awesome! Thank you. So.... Mims/ (both talking) don't have anybody (garbled) do we? Teague/ No one on the 8`h. Thomas/ I can do the 8`h. Salih/ I guess one of the Zoom meeting, do we have two Zoom meetings, Susan? Mims/ Yeah, I did one on the 22"d, and then the one on the 8°i. Salih/ (both talking, garbled) can be at the Dream Center. Mims/ Pardon? Salih/ I said one of the Zoom meeting can be at the Dream Center maybe? Mims/ I don't care. (several talking, garbled) Thomas/ If the 8`h were .... I'm not up for any of the, um, the ones out ... out in the field. So yeah, if we ... if we made the 8' on the Dream Center I could .... I could do that. Salih/ Okay, great! Mims/ So you wanna make the 8`h at the Dream Center and have just one Zoom meeting, is what I'm hearing then. Is that.... Teague/ Is it possible that we, cause I ... urn, maybe for (mumbled) um .... maybe we can use both of the Zoom meetings as an option for him. (several talking) It's early enough, um ... if .. if there's a challenge I think, um, Kellie can try to reach out to whoever to make some changes. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 19 Salih/ Uh huh. Definitely! Teague/ So then at the Dream Center, um, we have John. Um, I would certainly be happy to go. Salih/ And I can be there too. Teague/ Okay! All right, so .... um, Kellie, I hope you were helpin' us out by recording everything (laughs) Fruehling/ Yes! You wanna recap? Teague/Please! Fruehling/ So on September 16`h I have Bergus and Salih; September 22nd I have Weiner, Mims, and Thomas; September 20h I have Taylor, Weiner, and Teague; September 29`h I have Bergus, Salih, and Teague; October 5`h I have Mims, Bergus, and Taylor; and October 8' I have Thomas, Teague, and Salih. (several talking, garbled) Mims/ (laughs) Janice, you and I were both gonna add our name to the 16`h. Go ahead, that's fine (laughs) Teague/ And I think I'm on four different ones. Is that correct, one, two (both talking) Fruehling/ Three. Teague/ Okay. All right. Um, so if anyone feels like they're missin' out on an opportunity and they wanna go somewhere, just let me know. Um....I.... I would be willin' to share... share the love, but I'm also happy to go! Mims/ Well I'm really (garbled) to see that everybody's got at least two, some people have three, um, and we actually have three Councilors signed up for every single one of `em, and I think that's absolutely fantastic, and we have different combinations, um, of Councilors together, and I think that's really important too. And the ... the only final thing I would just strongly suggest is if something comes up at the last minute, somebody can't make it, please try and reach out to the rest of Council so that somebody else can try and sub in if they want to, so that everybody can, you know, take full advantage of, um, getting the input from the public. So.... Teague/ Full disclosure, I haven't looked at my calendar for any of these dates (laughter) so I might be rearrangin' a little bit. We'll ... we'll navigate through it! All right! Um, so, uh, well I wanna thank you, Councilor Mims, for that proposal. I think that is a, certainly a step, uh, forward, um, in ... in the efforts we're doin' as a community, and so .... uh, Kellie, is it possible that you can pull up our progress summary? Great! This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 20 Mims/ Can I add just one real quick thing there and that would just (mumbled) I think staff kind of understands some of the information that we would like to have prior to going into these meetings. So if...if they can maybe let us know what that is, and then I would encourage all of Council Members, and I don't know, probably, Kellie, if you're the point person, maybe to get her a list of ideas or suggestions that we might want in a list that we would be able to take out with us. Um, again I think trying to start a conversation with simply how ... how do you see reimagining the police department is a tough one, and may... I think Kellie, either between Kellie and Geoff and the Mayor or somebody, we need to be thinking about who do we want.... cause I believe Geoff asked, suggested a really good thing of asking some of the non-profit providers. So that needs to be coordinated as well. So, urn .... if staff, can we dump that on staff (laughs) to help coordinate maybe some of the non-profit providers to be with us. Fruin/ Yeah, I think that's very doable, and what we might do is, um .... focus in on a key, one key issue per event, and it doesn't mean that entire event has to be dedicated to say a ... addiction issues or, uh, or services I should say, um, but that could be the focus and then there can be an open portion to the event too and we just make sure that we have some field experts at each one. So I'll work with the Clerk's office and we'll try to do that. If there is any specific location that you want, uh, a theme to, uh, just reach out to me or to Kellie and we'll work on that. Otherwise we'll, you know, we'll assume you're at Dream Center, for example, we'll focus maybe on some youth, uh, issues and invite youth providers and... and so forth. Mims/ Thank you, Geoff. Teague/ I know that one thing that Mayor Pro Tem and I had talked about was just that, um, havin' one item, um, per event, and so I think that plays right into the thought process of, um, how to be most productive. I do wonder just with, um, some of the suggestions that we'll be given by the community, will there be staff or someone present to kinda just take that information? Gather it? Froin/ Yeah, we .... we can have somebody present to do that. We have also created ... it's up on our website now, an online submission form. I know it's on the Black Lives Matter website, where you can find the status report, but I believe it's also on the police, um... um, web page too. So we'll make sure that you have directions on how to get ... you know, how to allow people to submit electronically in addition to whatever we might take in the in-person events. Teague/ All right, thank you. Um, so ... I ... I think, urn .... we're gonna go through this list a little bit. Now there might be some things that are gonna be on our agenda comin' up, so those we'll just kind of defer until then. Um, so, uh, the next one would be .... receive a report of Iowa City police involvement in the gas and flash bang devices. So that's gonna be comin' up on our next event (mumbled) um, at 7:00 P.M., and so we're.... that's on our formal agenda, so we're gonna talk about that then. So we'll defer that. Um, for the accountability authority of the CPRB, uh, is there ... um, I know that we've seen, um, and I've read the ... some minutes from the CPRB, but is there any update, uh, formally on, This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 21 um, any movement with them findin' either a ... a private, uh, lawyer that they chose or anything of that nature, at least from my perspective. (garbled) Weiner/ My understanding is they would ... is, and they could change, they could have changed at a subsequent meeting or they could change is that they were probably going to retain their current attorney, uh, and use him for that, but I did warm point out that, um, speaking of (mumbled) just organizing, they are doing their community, their community forum on September 21' at 5:30 P.M. by a Zoom, with a focus on, um, police policies, practices, and procedures, and we're asking people to submit questions in advance. So that might actually be really interesting for some of us to ... a couple of us to sit in on if we have the time. I plan to try, um, to ... to sort of see, preview a little bit, even though one of our ...two of ours will already have taken place, but to preview a little bit what they are hearing as well. Teague/ Any other thoughts on the CPRB? And I've talked to, urn ... uh, a ... a member from the CPRB and so I do know that they are, uh, happy for this opportunity, they really are! So.... Weiner/ Yeah, I also know that they've sent out, they're in the process of or they've already sent out, um, the questionnaires to pre ... to previous members, uh, and are ... are putting in ideas from their own members as well. Teague/ Great! Improve transparency and accessibility of detail ICPD budget expenditures. Frain/ Mayor, we do have, um, some additional budget information on the, uh, Iowa City Police Department website and then we'll have a ... a kind of a keen eye on this as we develop the fiscal year, uh, 22 budget as well, and we'll ... we'll make sure that, uh, we provide expanded, uh, materials in the budget document and on the website. Teague/ All right, so ... and because at the end of this, hopefully, we'll have time to go to the bottom and kinda, uh, see where we are on the checklist. I'm not sure if anything moves down there or not. Um (mumbled) inventory of military -grade equipment in the ICPD. Frain/ Um, that ... the, uh, military -grade equipment should be in your information packet on September l Ott'. Um, the evaluation of federal contracts is in your, uh, August 20' information packet, which you ... you have the ability to discuss later today, and then the, um, letter to the Johnson County Sheriff's Office has already been sent, Mayor, so um... two out of three on that, um, have been provided and one in the works. Teague/ Okay. All right, two out of three! And then four, enact ICPD general order expressly ban the use of chokeholds and any maneuver that cuts off oxygen or blood flow. Frain/ That general order has been updated. It's been reviewed by the CPRB and is available to view on our website. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 22 Teague/ So then will that .... and I don't .... let me see ..... so as far as like the order itself, would that move toward bein' finished? Frain/ Yes, that's, uh, that's one item, um, that needs to be updated on our next issuance of this report. Um, the, um, this item will shift over to the green column and will be complete. Teague/ Great! All right! And then we have... ah, lose my place! Continue ICPD policy and practice to be consistent with the Iowa House File 2647, ensurin' police officers in Iowa have not committed serious misconduct. Frain/ Uh, so this is in reference to the State reform bill that passed earlier this year. Uh, it's already been our practice to not hire officers with serious misconduct. Um, as the, uh, law was passed, the next step is for the State to draft rules, uh, how they're going to administer this law. When those rules come out we will certainly make sure that, uh... uh, we are compliant with ... with, um ... um, and that includes both how we hire new officers, but if officers leave our employment because of misconduct, you know, ensuring that we have the systems in place that properly report those to the State so that other departments, uh, so not, uh, hire that individual. Teague/ So we're... we're almost there! Frain/ Correct. The, uh..um, really there's nothing we can do to speed up this process right now. The rule-making process at the State has to take place and then we may have to adjust some of our internal human resources policies just to make sure that we're consistent, but until those rules are done at the State level, um, there's nothing we can do to get that over to the green column. Teague/All right! So compliance and evaluate, uh, investigate compliance and evaluate disciplinary action related to property use (mumbled) body cameras and vehicle recording devices. . Fruin/ So this general.... this is the third general order, uh, that we'll update as a part of this resolution, um, and this one is scheduled to be on the next, urn ... um ... uh, Community Police Review Board, um, meeting, and that is, uh, September 31. So that's Thursday of this week. (mumbled) be on the CPRB agenda and then per your request or your direction with this, um, resolution, you will also see this one. So this ... this then will go from CPRB to City Council before it's fully adopted by the department. Teague/ Okay. Frain/ Um, the next one is the duty to intervene and stop excessive force. That has already been completed. You can view that general order on our website as well, and if you'd click... if you pull up this report these are all hyper -linked and so you can kinda drill down and get links to those. Uh, prohibit use of teargas, rubber bullets, and flash bangs against peaceful protesters, uh, we anticipate, um, an update to a general order. Um, we're gonna wait for the independent review to be complete on ... on that one, because that independent This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 23 review, uh, may guide discussions on how best to update our policies. So, um, that one is still pending and will be taken up after the, urn .... uh, after that independent review. If you go forward with it, if you decide not to go forward with that, then we'll have to, um, make our own changes and discuss those, um ... uh, changes, urn .... uh, with the CPRB and with ... with you. The legislative priorities, the Council typically adopts those in, uh, November, December. Uh, so our office, uh, will be, um, drafting, um, reform, um... priorities for you to consider. We'll ask that you adopt those and then we plan to host a meeting with our State delegation, uh, to discuss those prior to the commencement of the legislative session. Teague/ Great! Fruin/ The Truth and Reconciliation Commission is on your agenda for further discussion, uh, tonight. The one million, uh, dollars is, um, identified in the budget and that will just await your direction on how that is allocated. The, uh... uh, if I'm going too fast or you wanna discuss, please stop, but the artistic expression, you had the, um, recommendation from the Public Art Advisory Committee, uh, on your last agenda, I believe, so that is a work in progress. Um, we have not initiated, and would like to have some discussions with Council on, um, artistic expression beyond, um, the mural. So we've talked about festivals or other, uh, engagement opportunities, and we'd just like to get that, uh... uh, get that discussion with you before we set forth any plans. Juneteenth as an official City holiday, I've initiated discussions with our three bargaining units, urn .... uh, holidays are, um ... uh, bargained in our union contracts and thus it will take, uh... um, a, uh... uh, agreement with those unions to be able to accomplish this. I'm confident we'll get there, but urn ... uh, we have not completed that yet. The, urn ... uh, report on the diversity of our City workforce, as well as what we have done in past years to expand equitable recruiting efforts and to, um, offer training to our employees. That is in your information packet on 8/20. Uh, hope you had a chance to read that. You'll have an opportunity to discuss that tonight if you'd like. There's also recommendations in there about how we might continue that effort going forward. And then finally the toolkit. Um, we continue to, uh, employ that toolkit. I believe we have a public hearing on tonight's agenda that, uh, will give you a preview of, uh, one application of that toolkit related to our, uh, water fees, and then, urn .... uh, the training to the community has begun, and we've done one community training, uh, focused on the business community. On September 9' we have an additional, uh, community training opportunity, um, that's targeted towards landlords and property owners, but is also available for the general community as well. So those... those efforts are being coordinated by our Human Rights office and uh, we'll continue, urn ... uh, certainly through this year and next. Teague/ Okay! Fruin/ So this is the snapshot on ... on kinda where things stand right now, um, with the exception, uh, that this item here, which is the general order on chokeholds, is ... is now in the completed column. Um, so you see some of these that are both completed and underway, um, that's just recognizing that there were multiple, uh, objections in that ... in that item. So, um, for example, the military -grade equipment is still under review. You have sent This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 24 the MRAP letter, and you now have the federal contract information, um, in front of you. So there are some.... some kind of partially completed indicators there. The only two that we've listed as ... as waiting Council action would be the allocation of the million dollars, uh, which, um, I trust will .... will come as you get deeper into some of the, urn ... uh, the other items here, and then, uh, this, uh... uh, artistic, um, opportunities for artistic expression, again, beyond the mural. We'd just like to have a short conversation with you about, uh, some of your thoughts before we, uh, really engage some of the, um, the art's community on how to move forward on that. Teague/ All right! Council.... thoughts? Bergus/ I'll jump in, Mayor, if that's okay. Um ... I just, first of all thank you for the overview and pulling this all together in one list. I think that's incredibly helpful, you know, we're looking at this all the time and ... and seeing the updates, you know, in our information packets, and I think it's really good for us to do that also as a group and to look at it. Um, a couple of things that jumped out to me, um, being able to review, it was in our ...as Geoff mentioned, August 20" information packet, IP3, the report on employee demographics and, uh, diversity, and I just wanted to .... to raise something we mentioned before but maybe haven't picked back up, which is training for City Council, um, and opportunities for that. I know ... I think John Thomas and I, uh, participated in ... in, um, one, urn .... that was put on by Lauren Gray. I don't recall even when that was (laughs) um, that was directed towards.... towards City staff and other, um, I think mostly government employees, but if there's something that we could do as a group. I know that the City Council previously had engaged, um, GARS, or the Government Association of Racial Equity, for some really concerted, um, training and discussion. I just wanted to bring that back up and see if...there's an appetite among the group for that. Fruin/ Funny you should mention that. We do have an opportunity. We just haven't, uh, I haven't, uh, pushed that out to you yet, but there is a .... a GARE-related training that, uh, Stephanie Bowers made me aware of today, uh, coming up in November, and I plan just to review kind of the agenda for that and... and if it looks like it fits well for elected officials, uh, we'll connect ya to that opportunity, and then I believe I've mentioned to you that, uh, as City staff, um, right now we are, um .... uh, pushing to our employees a 21 -day equity challenge. Um, that is being run through East Central Iowa United Way. Uh, and uh, that ... that challenge, uh, is designed by, uh, Dr. Eddie Moore, who's done some City training with us before, and this is really just a .... a phenomenal resource for us. Um, that's certainly a training that, uh, that the City Council can participate in. Um, that's kind of on your own, it's not necessarily a gather together, uh, type of training. Uh, but you make that commitment yourself and you go about it at your pace, uh, over the course of those 21 days. So, if you'd like that information I'd be happy to share it again with ya, um, and we'll continue to, uh, provide those opportunities to you as well, but I do concur that having something you can all attend and then maybe after that, you know, at a work session or public meeting discuss what your ...what your takeaways are and how those might influence your deliberations and decisions going forward would be ... would be pretty impactful. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 25 Teague/ Okay. Weiner/ Thanks for raising that. Teague/ Great! Well ... um, seem like we are, um, movin' along, um, not as fast as we certainly hope, but, um, definitely bein' very intentional, um, at ... right now reviewing and tryin' to get to the next steps, urn ... because we are committed, at least myself and I know I've talked to the Councilors, uh, we are committed to, uh, these, uh, 17, uh, points, uh, in... in the Black Lives Matter and Systemic Racism, uh, resolution that was created. So, uh, thanks to the Councilors for all of your work that you've been doin', and thanks to the City staff, and even everyone in the community that's been a part of, um, recommendations and lettin' your voice be heard on these matters, and it ... and, so that we can move forward together as a community, um, it's .... thank you! All right! Can we move on to the next item on our agenda? Which is gonna be clarfe... clarification of agenda items. And this is from the formal agenda. Clarification of Agenda Items: 8.c. David Etre (x2): Homeless Harassment 8.d. Bob Oppliger, Create Bike Advocacy Committee (Staff response Included) Thomas/ I have a couple of, um .... things that come ... came out of the correspondence that I wanted to ask about. Uh, one had to do with, urn .... the situation downtown. I think the downtown harassment may have been, in my notes anyway, how it was described and uh, I don't know, Geoff, there's some question as to ... the, urn ... the manner of police presence in the downtown, uh, that .... I'm not clear where this ... where this ended up. It sounded like there were differences of opinion on this, but uh, whether we have someone who's kind of dedicated to the downtown in the way that say David Schwent was at...at one point. Um, there was some concerns about the, uh, from what I've heard, the ... the time lapse from an incident beginning and when a police presence was actually, uh, there on the scene to respond to that incident. So I just wanted to ask about that. And ... maybe I'll just mention the other, uh, as well. Um, Bo ... Bob Oppliger's, uh, correspondence related to the bike advos.... Bike Advocacy Commission, or Committee. Um .... I .... I do hope we can, my hope in reading this exchange between Bob and ... and, urn .... uh.... oh, Kent, um, regarding how to move forward on these .... this question of the structure for advising staff, uh, and also just engaging on the question of advancing our ...our bike.... culture. Um, my hope was that there might be an opportunity for staff to meet with Bob, uh, members of this, uh, the current, uh.... uh, Bicycle Advisory Committee and others as necessary, to try to ... you know, go through what Bob was suggesting, um, to see if we can't do a better job of addressing all the aspects of the, urn... advancing our bike culture, um, which seemed, if I understood it, it seemed like the engagement was primarily on a project -driven basis, you know, with ... with when we were proposing bike lanes and things of that sort, and Bob was suggesting it could be an expanded role, um, but my hope is that might .... we might have that meeting, uh, to just see how we want to move forward, um, more productively, uh, with one of the stated goals reaching the gold status, which, uh... I was noting with Pauline the other day that, urn ... that was something that we This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 26 brought up probably four and a half years ago was ... is our hope to achieve that and we're still not quite there. So if...if making any changes to the advocacy for our bike culture, um, would help us achieve that, as well as just on the ground, promote culture in Iowa City for biking, um, perhaps having that conversation would be useful. Taylor/ I ... like John I also had concerns that correspondence, I think that was 8.c. about the downtown. So I think... because I had gotten phone calls about these issues too, about what was going on downtown, uh, with certain individuals and, urn .... so I think we just kind of needed a clarification about the status of...of a downtown liaison officer, if that still exists or where we are with that. Fruin/ (garbled) Teague/ Hey, Geoff ..uh, for whatever reason your mic is really fuzzy. Or is it just my speaker (laughs) Fruin/ (garbled) (several talking) Taylor/ No, the audio's terrible! Fruin/ (garbled) Teague/ Gotta love Zoom (both talking) Weiner/ ...fine earlier. Teague/ It was! Well he wasn't totally robotic. That's typically what happens (laughs) Fruin/ Okay, I'm going to pretend to be Ashley for a moment (laughs) Teague/ All right! Fruin/ Um ... uh, on the, uh, downtown issue, we do .... we do still have a downtown liaison officer. Uh, Officer Fowler, uh, continues to do that work with us. However, we're probably I think four or five, uh, police officer positions down right now from our budgeted amount, and um, that means that those officers on specialty positions are often called to regular patrol calls. Um, it's ... it's very common, uh, no matter if you're on days, evenings, or nights that you're gonna go call to call to call, and when we don't, um, have full staff, uh, we can't dedicate as much time to those, um, those specialty, uh, o ... um, assignments like the downtown patrol. So that's one of the things that we're struggling about right now. Um, we did hear these complaints, um, we did make sure that Officer Fowler, and others, could, um, respond as they do, uh, with ... with compassion and... and eye towards connecting individuals with .... with services they need, and I think, uh, we've received some good comments from the business community to ... to say thank you for ...for that assistance. Um, but I imagine that's something we'll continue to struggle with as long as we stay down, uh, those police officer positions. Um, regarding the bike, This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 27 uh, advocacy, um, the ... the...the, um, goal for gold, um, is still very much, uh... urn .... urn, our target and well within reach. Uh, the nature of that program is that you only apply, I think, every three years or so. That's why that goal's been hanging out there. We applied immediately after Council established that goal, probably three or four years ago, and fell just short of that, um, with ... with the biggest knock on us bein' that we don't have enough on -street bike facilities. Uh, we feel that after all the, uh, additions of bike lanes that the ... that the Council has authorized in the last few years that we'll have a really good shot of getting gold and I believe that application's in process right now. I'd have to verify that with ... with Kent and his team, but urn .... that's .... that's underway. Um, you saw Kent's response to ... to Mr. Oppliger's, uh, request there and I'm happy to follow up with ... with Kent, but uh, we feel like we are executing on that master plan as it was designed and ... and we feel like we have good input. Can always be better and... and perhaps a restructuring makes sense, but we'd certainly want to get the impact of..or get the input of. ... of. ... of the other advocates that have been helpin' us, uh ....um, make those decisions. 61. Willow Creek Park Improvements Taylor/ Thank you, Geoff. Um, I had a question about Item 6.f., uh, that was with the Willow Creek Park completion. Can somebody clarify what happens again when a company goes beyond the expected project completion date? I mean I understand that there were a lot of extenuating circumstances with this project, um, but it was delayed for a really long time, and I might have misunderstood, but I thought there was something about, uh, instead of a fine or a penalty, an amount was just deducted from the final payment. So is that reflected in those figures that we got on this item? Do you know? Fruin/ I'm not sure if...I see Ron is on the call. Um, Ron, if you have any information if we had liquidated damages on the Willow Creek Project? Knoche/ I ... I don't know if we ... if..if we have liquidated damages on that, uh, project or not. We'll double-check that before the Council meeting and we'll have that information for you, uh, at the meeting. Taylor/ Thank you! Knoche/ Yep! Teague/ All right, anything else from the agenda? 7.a. Amend Water Collection Ordinance FY20 Weiner/ I was just looking for a little bit of clarification on 7.a., which is the water collection ordinance to ex ... explain a little bit the background of that and ... when I saw the numbers in there and how it brings it down, it just, uh... the ... uh, for some reason it .... confused me some. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 28 Fruin/ Sure, uh, Dennis, you wanna handle that one? Bockenstedt/ I can ... I can try and answer that question for you and, um, you know, this goes back to the racial equity and toolkit that the Finance Department did several years ago, and we took a look at the impact of, uh, the water collection process on, um, minority community, and we did a, uh, through our GIS system, an analysis of where those past - due accounts were taking place across the city. And we found that it was really, uh, disproportionately impacting the south-central portion of the community. And so at that time, um, we found that the, uh, low income, uh, program, the discount program, was very effective, and we decided to put more resources into that program at that time. Um, since then, um, and that's been working and we've been getting higher participation, but we went back and took another look, uh, at that program and what we were doing. And, uh, at that ... at the initial time we were a little reluctant to eliminate the carding fee or, um, you know, all the fees associated with that collection process. Um, but after lookin' at that again, we decided, uh, perhaps that was the better way to go, um, and eliminate that carding fee and then, uh, in lieu of that, try to do more things electronically, like send text message notices and email notices to people and... and because we really felt that fee was a rather high fee comparably to the other communities, and it was really primarily impacting, uh, those residents in the south-central portion of the community that really ultimately the better way to go was to eliminate that fee. Um, and then alter our collection process a little bit. So we really this is what this ordinance does is it just authorizes, uh, the reduction or the elimination of that $45 carding fee. It does increase the, uh, initial late fee a little bit, um, and that's because we're in the process of purchasing software that will allow us to send email, text message, and other electronic notices, uh, so there is an additional cost associated with that, uh, particular program. However, when you ... when you do the math it turns out that in .... rather than that $45 fee they might pay an extra $4.50 late fee. Um, so, you know, there's ultimately a much lower cost, uh, or lower charges on that collection fee that is levied on those past -due accounts. And we're hopin' that, one, this might help people from getting their water shut off or helping them to pay those bills once they get behind, uh, but also then, um... allowing us more ways to communicate those late bills to people, other than just somebody, uh, driving up and putting a notice on their door. And so that's kind of, you k now, the background of that and ... and ultimately it's going to be a much lower cost for those individuals that are ... that are behind on their water bills. Fruin/ And ... and just a point of clarification, uh, this is assuming normal times. We are still not shutting off water during the COVID period. Uh, so we're actually looking ahead to where we resume normal collections. Weiner/ Thanks very much! Teague/ Any other agenda items? From the formal agenda (both talking) Salih/ I just ... is that on the Consent Agenda? The water item. I'm sorry I ... I wasn't like lookin' at the (both talking) This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 29 Teague/ Yep, it's on the Consent Agenda. Salih/ Yeah, I really wanna talk about that .... also. Uh, because you know I ... I just believe that to begin with, uh, as long as we using, you know, employees of the City to go and shut down the water, why we charging people 45 even before it's shut? I understand that you are working to take out that. I'm in the right, uh... the right item or I'm off? Okay. Teague/ You're on the right item! Salih/ Okay! You know, I'm ... I'm just thinking that, uh, I know that you are now working on waiving the 45. I agree. Uh, but you are increasing the fee (garbled) like you are saying, oh we are waiving the 45 because to begin with it's not like... yeah, we saw it is not okay, but instead we gonna increase the ... the fee so we can ... you know, just like ... what my point is, just to begin with, you sending somebody from the City to go and do that and put that notice on the door, and you charge the people 45, uh, dollar. That by itself it was wrong. I know that you are changing it, but you don't need to increase the fee. You just correct (mumbled) that was to begin with is wrong. We using the (garbled) the people who go there and put this, uh, you know, who go there and shut down the water, the people who go there and put the notice, are a City employee and we pay them a salary. We are not giving them more money because they ...we sending them out, and also, uh, the other thing is like ma ... it snakes sense to me during the weekend because you have (garbled) the water for those people. It makes us completely to charge that person extra if they request their water to be back on the weekend, but on weekdays, why we do that, if we using a City employees and my question to you, Dennis, do we pay ..extra money for those people who go and put the notice, do we pay extra fee for those people who go and shut down the water or turn it back on or anything? Bockenstedt/ We do not pay them extra in that sense (mumbled) overtime. Um, there is a cost associated because anytime we would send out an employee to card a property or shut off a water, they're doing that in lieu of something else, like replacing somebody's broken water meter or going out and reading meters or, uh, doing some other form of repair. So there is a cost because it does take time for those individuals and ... and the individuals that are doing these activities are funded from the water system, which is a self-funded business operation. So it's ... it's not bein' funded from property taxes or other, uh, other forms of...of revenue, so that the revenue that is generated by the water fees pays those employees that (mumbled) this work. Um, so although.... there is no really additional cost, there is a cost associated to have the additional... additional time on staff to be able to do that work. Salih/ No, but if...if nobody....if nobody have this problem and everybody pay their fee on time, we still pay the same salary to those individual who do this work. You know, I ... I really just don't understand that why we charge the people. I understand that we canjust do it if you ... you do it over times, you giving people over time to do that, after hours, and also if you doing it in the weekend, I understand that you can (garbled) fee to the person in their bills, but just if you doing it during the day and you doing it, why we do that? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 30 Bockenstedt/ I guess ... are you talking about the $45 carding fee? Salih/ Uh huh! Bockenstedt/ And that's the fee that we're eliminating. Salih/ (both talking) Okay, but what you adding? Bockenstedt/ Well, there's a ... there's a late fee, like when you do not pay your bill on time, right now it's a 5% late charge. And so the average bill's about $95. And so the average late charge on that bill is about $4.50. And so (both talking) Salih/ ...what you are increasing it? Bockenstedt/ And we're raisin' that essentially to a 10% fee, which'11 go from $4.50 to $9.00, and that's because we're purchasing software that will allow us to notify people of their late bills and late fees through email, text, and other forms of electronic communication, in lieu of havin' to ... to do it manually through labor, which we were charging $45 for. Salih/ Do you know who the people who really get this char ...late fees and ... (garbled) water always shut down? It's the low income people who are not even check their emails most of the time, because they don't have time for that. I ... I guess you are putting a lot of burden on those people. You don't even need, to me you don't even need to buy the software if you decide not to charge the people, uh, like fee. So I ... I really don't know, but I think this is wrong, and it have to be corrected, and uh, also like turning on the water, if somebody came. If you are charging them late fee, also you charge them turn on fee? Bockenstedt/ There is a fee to restore the water. So if somebody's water is shut off, there is a $45 fee, actually it's $47.25. We're reducing that to $45 to have an employee come out, because they have to physically turn the water off and then come back and physically turn the water back on. So it takes roughly two hours of staff time, and equipment time, to ... to shut the water off and shut it back on. So there is a cost associated with that actual behavior. (both talking) Salih/ But during the ... during the normal hours you are not paying them extra. Bockenstedt/ Well (both talking) they are salaried .... or they are paid hourly. Um, they are union employees. Um, the amount of staff time it would take, with or without those activities, I guess that would have to be evaluated, how much of their time is ... is required to handle those accounts that required shutting off and carding. Salih/ That means we charging them 45 ... we still charging them $45 if we turn on the water, and we adding to the late fee because we going to purchase this software that will remind them. Most of the people are not going to see this reminder. Who are... you k now, maybe the people who really pay their bill on time and they have, you know, they have This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 31 access to pay their... their bill on time because they always do that, they have good job. Those people who are still going to see the reminder if you send it to them, but not the low income people, and ... and I just think buying this equipment, you getting... and adding more late fee, you getting a lot of burden on the low income people, and you still charging them if they come and say, okay, I'm paying it. Even though I'm paying fee for late fee, you still charging me $45 to turn my water back. This is ridiculous (several talking) Frain/ May I make a suggestion, Mayor, um, tonight you're bein' asked to set the public hearing on this, um, so you're not ... you're not takin' a vote on the ordinance tonight, and I don't have the agenda in front of me, but that's my recollection. Dennis, is that correct? Bockenstedt/ Yeah, tonight is just setting the hearing. Actually September 15a', uh, your meeting will be the actual hearing itself. Fruin/ So we can go through this. I mean I think what's .... what we're arguing here, what we're... what we're hearing is, um, a .... a degree to which we want to lower the fees, cause staff is coming to you saying let's lower the fees, uh, to reduce the burden, and what I'm hearing from Councilor Salih is let's lower that even more, and so we can have that degree of, uh, you know, how far do we wanna move with this, and staff ...this has been an informative conversation and staff can kinda walk you through these various elements, but I think that's probably important to do at the public hearing. Um, and tonight you're just setting that public hearing. You're not voting on this item. Salih/ Still, I just wanna say my two cents! Teague/ (laughs) All right! Salih/ Okay, thank you! Teague/ We ... we will reconvene, uh, our work session after, uh, the formal agenda, and so for now, um, I'm going to bring this meeting to a close (recording ends) (BREAK FOR FORMAL) (RECONVENE WORK SESSION) Information Packet Discussion (August 20, August 27): Teague/ All right we are, um, goin' back to our work session, which started yesterday, uh, the first of September, um, at 5:00 P.M., and so, um, we have finished our clarification of agenda items. Um, wanted to just allow an opportunity for any information packet, um, An .... August 20°i. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020. Page 32 Mims/ (mumbled) quick comment on IP3, the ... the staff demographics, um, recruiting and training. There's, I think there's an awful lot of training going on that people aren't aware of. It's a long, long list. Um, so I think really good information, uh, from staff. Weiner/ And then (mumbled) the fire department do more. Seems like everyone was going a lot. Teague/ Any other items? Okay, we're gonna go to .... IP, um, 8/27. Hearin' none there. Um... well, I think we can probably consider ourselves adjourned. Unless there's somethin' else people wanna bring up right now. Bergus/ Um, Mayor (garbled) I'm sorry, one quick update from the, uh, City of Literature Board, because we talked about it at our last meeting. The possibility of renaming a park, um, in honor of James Allen McPherson. Um, gotten a couple of comments, one of which may have gone to all of Council as well, about the possibility of maybe more significant space than the very small green space that was being considered. So I just wanted to bring that forward and I certainly agree with that ... that sentiment. And then I maybe should have said it during regular Council updates, but I just wanted to take five seconds and say ...I'm really, really proud of us. I know we've let down a lot of people in the community on a lot of different things in the last few months, but I see all of your hearts. I know we're trying. Um, I know we're going to continue to try. We're not gonna walk away from any of the really, really, really hard stuff that we're dealing with. So I just wanna say thanks for this opportunity to be your colleague, cause I ... think we're... we're doin' all right. Teague /Great! Weiner/ And I apologize for adding to this but I wanted to make one note about Item 6 in the August 27a' packet. Um, it's amazing what we're able to do with these CDBG funds and 3,000 of our own funds to fund all these, um, requests, over $260,000 in requests for homeless prevention, childcare, mental health, food assistance — that are all under the CARES act, that are all caused by COVID. So the ... the fact that we ended up with the funds to do that is, um, is ... is a real positive, and I just wanted to note that. Teague/ Anything else? All right! We're adjourned! (laughs) Long night! (laughs) Yes, all right. Bye! (several responding) This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council work session of September 1, 2020.