HomeMy WebLinkAboutdraft 3 4 2021 Truth and ReconciliationMarch 4, 2021
Draft Ad Hoc Truth and Reconciliation Commission Minutes
(Electronic) Zoom Platform
Regular Meeting
Commissioners present: Ali, Currin, Harrington, Navarre-Jackson, Porter,
Hamad, Harris, Rivera, Traore.
Staff present: Stefanie Bowers, Eleanor Dilkes.
(Electronic Meeting Pursuant to Iowa Code section 21.8)
An electronic meeting was held because a meeting in person was impossible
or impractical due to concerns for the health and safety of commission
members, staff, and the public presented by COVID-19.
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Stefanie Bowers: An electronic meeting is being held.
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Stefanie Bowers: Because the meeting in person.
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Stefanie Bowers: Is.
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Stefanie Bowers: impossible or impractical due to concerns for the
health.
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Stefanie Bowers: and safety of Commission.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Members staff.
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Stefanie Bowers: and the public.
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Stefanie Bowers: Presented side COPA.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: To participate in the meeting.
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Stefanie Bowers: And to comment on an agenda item, you can either raise
your hand.
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Stefanie Bowers: or press star nine.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: On your phone.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you stephanie.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: All right, um let's do a roll call and call this
meeting to order, please, I will start with Commissioner Ali.
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Commissioner Curry.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner Navarro Jackson.
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Commissioner Navarre-Jackson: present.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Airport.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Airport you're muted.
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Commissioner, Hamas.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: wasn't.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner Troy.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Moving to the second item on the agenda is approval
of meeting minutes from our Monday meeting our special oh i'm sorry my
bad I apologize.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Are our last formal.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: mission of February 18 2021 can I get a motion in
the second, please.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): i'd like to motion to approve the
Minutes, this is, Commissioner.
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Anthony Currin: Commissioner current, I would like to second that motion.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: And let's get a roll call, please for that
Commissioner Ali.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Yes.
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Commissioner.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner Navarro Jackson yes.
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He said that one more time.
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Royceann Porter: Yes.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: i'm Commissioner come on.
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Raneem Hamad: Yes.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner Harris, yes.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner Rivera yes.
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Commissioner Troy.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Yes.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: And I will count myself as well, and giving it yes
sorry about the last one.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: The next item on the meeting agenda is public
comments of items, not on the agenda, I would like to remind members of
the public who wish to speak.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: That you have five minutes to do so in also remind
fellow Commissioners, they are not to engage with the public on any items
that are spoke on so, if any, members of the public wishes to raise their
hand.
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And we will continue.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Is there anyone in the public.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: That was to make a comment.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: No okay well.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Okay Nicholas.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Tyson.
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Nicholas Theisen: So it's a little bit more confusing with this format,
because you have to like raise your hand and, like the participants
screen, so I.
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Nicholas Theisen: Apologies I didn't mean to delay that.
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Nicholas Theisen: Good evening everyone.
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Nicholas Theisen: And i'm actually very happy to see that the overall
temperature of the cpt has been lowered.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: quite a bit from.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Previous excursions so that seems to.
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Nicholas Theisen: be a positive development.
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Nicholas Theisen: I suppose I have a question series of questions,
actually, but the first and most important one is what is the mayor doing
here I mean Okay, I can read the agenda, it says.
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routing protocol.
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Nicholas Theisen: But I can also see that the question that was left
lingering from the previous CRC meeting, which is you know whether to
change leadership of the.
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Nicholas Theisen: Commission has been shunted.
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Nicholas Theisen: To basically the bottom of the list, so I guess i'm
wondering, is the mirror huge to advise us on the routing protocol, and
if he is.
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Nicholas Theisen: seems a little.
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Nicholas Theisen: silly to me, considering you know in Tuesday nights
Council session.
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Nicholas Theisen: is actually the obvious violation of the protocol in
the mirror didn't have anything to say about that.
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Nicholas Theisen: i'm also kind of wondering why his marks have been
shown to the forefront when the, the question that actually desperately
needs to be resolved, right now, which is finding a neutral dispassionate
chair it's actually been moved to the back of the line.
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Nicholas Theisen: I guess i'm just confused and.
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Nicholas Theisen: wasn't bad it looks to be out of the blue, like this,
you know if I even shoes i'd actually kind of worried that people would
assume that i'm hearing we would provide cover for a personal friend.
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Nicholas Theisen: Are you ready, but people might think i'm using my
authority, as an elected official to make sure she is not held
responsible for the actions like I said earlier, i'm glad that soon, but
the sort of temperature has.
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Nicholas Theisen: started off a little bit lower.
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Nicholas Theisen: But you know, like what has happened in the past couple
weeks has been egregious not the least of which.
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Nicholas Theisen: Using her own power and authority is chaired the train
passes totally spurious motion attacking Monday night so i'm not really
sure why you'd want to be associated with telling members of the public
to just get over the brutality that was perpetrated by ICP on June 3 or
with bring.
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Nicholas Theisen: The children who friends into tears means to harass
other Members look like I would he want to be associated to the hospital
she has fostered.
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Nicholas Theisen: European.
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Nicholas Theisen: commission's are actually trying to direct your
attention this have been defined here for some time, and the reason why I
wanted to point out the news but it's because it's.
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Nicholas Theisen: like this will actually will perpetuate the chaos, the
Commissioners themselves are sick of not sure to be coddled summarily
board, and I also see the on the.
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Nicholas Theisen: On the call as well, this is directly to the bearish X
adults who's political opinions just happen to differ, we shouldn't work
out those differences in the way, etc.
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Nicholas Theisen: So.
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Amaar Samel: Thank you, thank you.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you Nicholas, are there any other members of
the public that wish to.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: address us before.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: One last call.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: No okay we're going to move on to the next agenda
item Thank you again Nicholas for your time.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: So I would like to invite both the mayor and
miracle TIM.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: To discuss meeting protocol for agenda item number
four.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : Well Hello everybody i'm excited to be here with you
tonight I don't see mayor pro tem, can you tell me.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: If any anywhere.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: awesome great great alright.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : Well, good evening everybody, and especially to the
iowa city Truth and Reconciliation Commissioners, it is a pleasure to be
in your presence, virtually.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Of course.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : i'm thanks for your willingness to serve and really
to be a part of that.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: five.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: fact finding truth.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : talon reconciliation mission that.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : was set by Council.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : And by the people of this.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : Community I just last year just a little while ago,
and so I know the journey.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : you're on and.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: When I when I think about when the Council voted.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : unanimously to have each of you serve on the
Commission, I believe it was because we saw.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : The contributions each of you.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : Make towards this.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : Commission it's a novel Commission.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : When we think about our city.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : Having a truth and reconciliation commission I.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : think many of us know that.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : doesn't is not a popular Commission around the
around the nation.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : Even though there is more and more talk about it.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : happening and so and i'm also excited that has
happened, and during the time when mayor pro tem and I are in leadership.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : It really does mean a lot, you know when I think of
the group of kind of this group uniqueness I you know I think of.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: All the various.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : That touch points that are being shared and and of
course we want those voices to be continued to be heard, is actually is
very important.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: And, as I think about.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : You know just some of the recent past process does
become important, as well as well because it's kind of a vehicle to
allow.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : All those involved.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : to know what to expect and and and protocols in
place just gives us all something to go off of.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : Personally, I wanted to pause.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: The tlc.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : To allow a joint meeting with counselors because I
saw some of the growing pains and I thought you know, maybe it might be
nice for there to be.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : An interaction between us so that we can have a
conversation and see how we can help you along this process.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : Tonight mayor pro tem and I we decided we just
wanted to come and just you know say hello, let you know that we're
really rooting for you all.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : We know this journey she and I, we were both
counselors new counselors at one point, and all the protocols and and
kind of how things went and learning all about.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : You know some of the things that Council have come
before them it's a lot to learn and even when you think about some of the
things that.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : will be coming forth before you all you're gonna
have to learn quite a you know some things that you think you might have
a lot of knowledge on.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : and come to find out that you don't so challenging
yourself to learn other aspects of some of the things put before you I
know you're up for the challenge when I thought.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : I did.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: um.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : You know I looked at black lives matter online.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Just their mission.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : Because this this was really developed out of that
black lives matter and.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: One of the things I wanted to read.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : Was black lives matter we know it was founded in
2013 and response to the.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : acquittal of trayvon.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : martin's murder this mission was to eradicate white
supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on
Black communities by the state and vigilantes by combat and and
counteract and acts of violence, creating space for black imagination to
innovation.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: And Center in black joy.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : We are winning immediate improvements in our lives,
I read that because I know that the Truth and Reconciliation as for the
bike park.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : Community it really a roll this.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : Out of the black lives matter movement that started
long ago but definitely George floyd ignited within our Community.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : I desire to really create some actions towards.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : The end the end of systemic racism, and so I am so
privileged that each of you are serving on the truth and reconciliation
and I.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : Just really am looking forward to the outputs that
you that you will have, and I have great hope continued hope for this
truth and reconciliation commission mayor pro to.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: Anything you study, though you didn't let anything for me
to say, but hi everyone i'm very glad to be here.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: First, I want to tell you that i'm really proud of
everyone who is here in this commissions and when we appointed you with
rescue, we know that you're going to do this.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: So, even though, if you had a struggle, a little bit there
is no problem you're going to i'm sure I have a thread that you got
you're going to get togethers and you're going to put this to visit
later, so I really encourage everyone to like to still have that you know
kind of.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: You know, like.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: let's just say you don't like this character, you still
have to keep that courage, because I know you will do it, and you know,
let me also acknowledge that.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: Yes, having a Commission legs is in iowa city that he used
and bigger and also let me acknowledge that this commissions came for is
from.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: Born as a result of a black lives matter movement way,
which is led by ifr, I would like really to thank them because.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: we've been waiting for this kind of Commission for years.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: And we try hard everybody be able in this Commission us
we've been fighting in this Community, but let us acknowledge the fact
that, because you come and you find that that's why we end up by this
Commission.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: Really, I would like to thank you, I would like to thank
everyone who said when this come commissions, we have just to acknowledge
the fact that having this condition is huge.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: And let us I you know, maybe you are struggling a little
bit, but i'm sure I trust you all, I trust all the nine Members that they
will be lagging great job through a you know with this commissions to
come up with a fact, and with the throws and make our Community even
better.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: Thank you.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you mayor mayor pro tem.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Those words are those sentiments are really
encouraging for us here right and then having some growing pains.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: So to say as we've been formed, but the invitation
to to truly understand like meaning protocol in in learning all the ropes
I I i'm eager to to to if that's available to do so.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: To get for me, we got Mr Ali ration hold on one
second.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: If you don't mind.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: I since we just.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: would like to follow up by some advice Meyer, if you can
start, please, and after that we can.
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Open it to questions.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : i'm sorry so.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: Say that I said we just went to give them some advice you
know for the.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: You know.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: You can.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: take it or leave it, but this is advised that.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: We are here.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: To give you we glad my.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : new faces well, certainly as, as I mentioned, I we
we are well aware of some of the growing pains that's happening we've
been we've been paying attention we've been in in attendance.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : What we really want to do is encourage you all, and
also extend an offer an offering to any of the Commissioners, if you
ever.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : want to reach out to your counselors many of you may
not have ever interacted with us, we are available we'd like to meet with
you, if that's what you choose to do.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : individually or if you decide to do that, as a group
that's your choice again if that's something that you want to reach out
to the Council about, but I.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : i'm really excited about this Commission, it is as
the mayor pro tem said i'm very unique in our Community needed in our
Community and, of course, who would do it, but iowa city and the state of
iowa, and so we are.
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Mayor Bruce Teague : trailblazers and you all are in the in the seats
leading this mission, so thank you so much, yes.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: And I want to add a little bit here to you know I, I can
only one meeting and I have been there, the last meeting I have been the
only for 15 minutes.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: I just comparing last meeting with this meeting, I think
you already in track.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: This is this is great today, the way that you start the
meeting, thank you, Vice chair I guess urine the meeting is Mosley and
you have this meeting also go to the end it's mostly by following your
agenda and everything.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: Giving cans to the public, because we need to hear the
public the public are very important, we need to hear from them, but you
know just think of our.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: To have like a by know i'm political for your for your
room meeting will be great and the Commissioners themselves, they can
call a come up with those bylaws and use it, so you can control your
meeting.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: is so you can do the job that you need because sometimes
if you're being distracted.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: You know, and not following like every single thing that
you've been and like hearing that interacting with the public and the
same time, this is with tape from your time.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: And you are not going to do a lot of same to do that badly
convenience is really important, it could be doing public comment for
something that is not on the agenda and same way that you're doing it
right now.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: But if you end up with during discussion of setting item
on the agenda also have been public common before you, Commissioner,
discuss it.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: So you give the public cons to talk about the issue, and
after that come to a Commissioner discussion so you can discuss the
issue.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: Because many times, I will come to, for example, to the
Council meeting with an idea two votes they're going away in an issue.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: But when I hear from the public dealing the public hearing
or public comment I wouldn't care my mind many time but licking my mind
that's why you need to hear from the public.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: Those some yes advice when for here just to give you some
of our experience and some of the advice and to tell you that we are
behind you, we support you, as the mayor said.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: anytime you need to read you know read shower don't
hesitate to reach out and we will support you, I never went to a
Commission before and i'm not going to come to your commission's but I
will support you, you know I because I trust you you're going to do the
right thing.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: Thank you.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: Any question.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you, thank you, I believe i'm Commissioner, a
male at her hands free.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): yeah I had my hand raised, but actually
when they were giving their advice.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): And said to reach out to them, I that
was.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I was going to say they all have their
phone numbers are online so.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: i'm sure most.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): of them are extremely pleasant.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): People and i've had.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: To.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): pick brains with them on multiple
occasions so yeah, thank you for opening that door to us and just you
know letting us know that you guys are always there because I think Eric
variances important.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: Yes.
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MAZAHIR SALIH: yeah anytime and also, I want to just tell you that you
guys are making history don't forget that that's why I work as much as
you can to King everything that we don't like and iowa city, so you can
do that, I trust you all.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you mayor mayor pro tem we really appreciate
your encouraging words and the advice that you have given us on how to
move forward.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: So I will be moving on to the next agenda item and.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you stephanie, and that is agenda item number
five request to city council for vision of budget submission Jesse.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: facilitator Jessie J, would you like to speak on
this.
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Jesse Case: um well, I speak on this.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Specifically, I just like to.
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Jesse Case: thank everybody for.
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Jesse Case: Being here and thank the city council for your Nana spoke to.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: me as a facilitator.
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Jesse Case: I know that there are some questions about the order of the
agenda, and I know ultimately it's up to.
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Jesse Case: The Commission.
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I had made a couple recommendations.
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Jesse Case: You.
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Jesse Case: So that.
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Jesse Case: I think what we're, seeing as.
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Jesse Case: They some business items at the beginning of the agenda
because.
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Jesse Case: There needs to be worked on between meetings like city itself
does a lot of work and staff there's a lot of work between meetings, not
just at the Council meetings.
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Jesse Case: Real work happens between meetings and i've talked to ml and
i've talked to Holland Tony and some other Commissioners i'm going to
hopefully be reaching out to everybody in the next couple of days to get
input on how you want.
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Jesse Case: You know how just to evolve my role as a facilitator, but
the.
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Jesse Case: One thing is clear is that you know with there's a lot of
work to be done in the coming months and.
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Jesse Case: We, we have to start now to get organized in order to move
these things forward whether it's the police review reviewing the police
report or the budget itself which we've already missed a deadline we
missed missed the first benchmark.
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Jesse Case: Of the resolution which I don't have magical be a problem,
asking for an extension, but we have missed that first benchmark of of
the resolution, so we just need to get some work done.
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Jesse Case: And I think it's at the end, the agenda because they're
explosive things at the end of the agenda and if the meeting blows up, we
still have to end the meeting and get work done between meetings.
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Jesse Case: Because if we start with the controversial things and then,
if the meeting blows up and we don't get any work done then we're going
to go another two weeks without getting any more work done.
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Jesse Case: And we're we're here without a Budget Committee asking,
probably to postpone a timeline and I really appreciate the
Commissioners.
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Jesse Case: interest and work he's put on on this budget, but we got we
got, we have to move things forward and he worked on, so I would like you
know.
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Jesse Case: love to see would recommend different committees forming in
order to meet offline between meetings and get some work done it and it
will also.
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Jesse Case: lend itself to getting public input those committees can
reach out to different people in the public and get input for budgets or
or review on on certain items.
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Jesse Case: The committee needs to recognize and identify areas of
expertise or areas that they wanted this Commission to work on, there
should maybe be a Commission or a subcommittee working with that, but
then reports at the next.
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Zachary Smith: meeting you know.
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Jesse Case: Well, how it gets a couple people that really dig into the
budget and talk I don't know what how you're going to do it tonight, but.
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Jesse Case: For example, you know there just needs to be people meeting
offline to look into these topics and then reporting back to the
Commission with their work for larger discussion, because if we put
everything if we started zero for every discussion in front of the large
group.
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Jesse Case: it's very hard to get things done and and by consensus and.
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Jesse Case: Through the democratic process, so if you know we can move a
lot of things quickly and we have to be able to do more than one thing at
once.
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Jesse Case: So that's why I think you know what i'm hoping is we leave
tonight, regardless of what happens.
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Jesse Case: Politically, or or what with leadership or anything else we
just have to leave with some assignments between meetings that we can
move the agenda forward, we have to identify there's very specific items
in the resolution.
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Jesse Case: That that we're tasked with and.
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Jesse Case: You know, stimulate different difficult conversations.
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Jesse Case: You know we're certainly checking that, but there are other
things like you know really researching and and recording the history of
systemic racism, there are some big.
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Jesse Case: tasks that you've all been assigned with and i'm concerned
that, if we don't get some business done during the meeting and in
between the meetings that that it's going to not we're going to run out
of time on every issue so that's that's all I like to say I.
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Jesse Case: would just recommend that that we we have people working
together offline between meetings on the budget on whatever other items
you all.
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Jesse Case: identifying them, so we have reports and that way at every
meeting, there are also reports of something that's happened in between
meetings and that's that's generally how it's done is the real work
doesn't come.
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Jesse Case: meeting itself.
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Jesse Case: Our work comes through small group.
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Jesse Case: really just elbow grease between the meetings, so I would
just hopefully see that between this meeting and the next week, the next
meeting, there are committees meeting on issues to move the agenda items
forward.
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Jesse Case: let's i'll turn it back over to you.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: No, thank you Jessie for those words, I think it is
you articulated it pretty well that it's important for us to.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Do the grunt work in between meetings and then
simply report back on we find in have those discussions types of
discussions and not have to have their butt heads on information that
we're trying to find out.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: I do want to let.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Mohammed speak on his budget.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Like outline proposal, but before I do that, I
would like to open it up to all the other Commissioners if they have any
comments or concerns about extending the budget permission to the city
council.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: know.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): And I just my only this is Commissioner
Ali.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): i'm my only.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: question is, is it.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: just going to be like one.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): person writing it out and then.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): submitting the.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): proposal to counsel How does that
process work.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): i'm asking.
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Jesse Case: I think you could either.
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Jesse Case: Vote vote to.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: To.
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Jesse Case: extend it and then, if you and and part of that could make
them part of that motion could be to have the facilitator, make a request
to the Council or or one of the Commissioners itself.
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Jesse Case: But I would say just one email from one person, the facility,
I think, part of the facilitators rose to make recommendations to the
Council, so I think that would be appropriate, but.
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Jesse Case: I would think that if you think feel like you need more time,
make emotion somebody should make emotion and then voted and then the
email would go out tomorrow.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): And this is Commissioner Ali speaking
Can I make a motion to have Jesse send an email to Council tomorrow
regarding extension says budget.
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Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): Is a slow motion clarification
question, for this is Commissioner Rivera how long of a extension to be
requesting.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): you're still muted.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Vice chair.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: run you can go ahead, Commissioner, come on.
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Raneem Hamad: Yes, so I think a minimum of two weeks.
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Raneem Hamad: is good but i'm open to others.
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Stefanie Bowers: And let everybody know that the actual due date.
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Stefanie Bowers: From 90 days from your first meeting, which would have
been December 21 actually the the current due date would be march 22 so
when you're discussing this, you may want to keep that in mind.
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Jesse Case: that there may be some clarification needed on.
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Jesse Case: budget itself the month at least have a.
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Jesse Case: Question and maybe it's just.
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Jesse Case: In my mind, but resolution says funds funds needed to carry
out the.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: charge of the key RC.
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Jesse Case: beyond what existing city staff programs and services, we can
provide is the budgets posted this is maybe for Ellen or somebody.
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Jesse Case: Is the budget that we're putting together supposed to be.
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Jesse Case: A million dollar budget on how this Commission is going to
spend a million dollars it's been recommended for to fight systemic
racism and that or is it to.
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Jesse Case: put together a budget on what we need to get to that final
report that then deals with the million dollars are the recommendations I
use a million dollars loosely but.
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Jesse Case: So is it is it like you know we're going to bring in you know
Eduardo in Dallas and to talk about CRC so we maybe he charges or maybe
there's somebody that.
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Jesse Case: Expert witness that you want to bring in and they charge
webinar what a training partner training budget so, is it is the budget
that is referenced here specific to operations of this Commission, or the
overall pot of money that been allocated by the city.
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Mohamed Traore: Oh sorry all go after you.
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Eleanor Dilkes: This is ELENA dogs, the city attorney.
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Eleanor Dilkes: The the resolution.
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Eleanor Dilkes: provides that the budget will be to execute the charges
of the Commission, so I think you're thinking on that as right, I think I
need to mention, too, that.
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Eleanor Dilkes: A million dollars, is not just for this Commission, if
you look at the resolution that the Council initially passed and you look
at.
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Eleanor Dilkes: The resolution establishing the Commission and i'll just
read from it, the city council to allocate city funds have a million
dollars during the present fiscal year to support resolution 20 dash.
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Eleanor Dilkes: that's the the black lives matter resolution that had a
number of items on an APP that the Council passed which includes a
variety of initiatives, among them the truth and reconciliation
commission.
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Anthony Currin: Yes.
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Anthony Currin: I have a question.
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Anthony Currin: Thank you, this is commissioned to current.
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Anthony Currin: Would it be possible for us to request a 90 day extension
that would give us actually time to go over it makes up committees and
really get into the weeds of it.
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Anthony Currin: And we can come together and and do it, I mean.
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Anthony Currin: We what counselor the counselor adults has informed us
there's got to be other things that we don't know also I mean we're all
just learning to do this there's it's never been done before, and I was
city, so we don't want to rush it.
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Anthony Currin: And we want to make a good foundation, so that you know
we have a strong platform on which to stand wouldn't we couldn't we all
agree to that.
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Mohamed Traore: mission attorneys are you still on.
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Anthony Currin: i'm done.
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Anthony Currin: I think that's something we could all pretty much rally
around let's get a good strong, solid foundation and a firm understanding
of.
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Anthony Currin: What we're what we have to work with for our starter
material and really build a good strong platform.
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Mohamed Traore: So this is monetary or here I just like to say that I do
think we need an extension, but I think 90 days is a bit much as, as Mr
Casey said in.
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Mohamed Traore: In during his interview process and, as I said, previous
times for that he believes that we will need to pay experts to come in.
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Mohamed Traore: And if we were to extend this 90 days by that point we
would be to June 4 and if we extend this to June 4 and at that point we
have have.
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Mohamed Traore: Just under 400 days to bring in experts and to do this
entire fact funding process, so I don't think we need an entire 90 days.
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Mohamed Traore: But I think we may need about 45 days that would give us
three four meetings, after this and as well if we're going to have
budgets.
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Mohamed Traore: subcommittees that would also give us the week between
and the days between to do these things.
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Mohamed Traore: And i'm willing to meet with members of the community at
any time where i'm not at work, one days off of zoom meetings, whatever
it takes to get this process completed in the 45 days.
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Mohamed Traore: So that we can begin to bring in these experts and we can
begin to bring in people from the Community.
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Mohamed Traore: By way of having these experts available to us to truly
you know get started on our mission, and I would like to say as well that
when it comes to the current items my budget proposal.
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Mohamed Traore: I did include the fact that towards the bottom, that
there would be over meaning fun pool of about $337,500 and I talked about
in there, how that money can be used to pay for experts historians
facilitator stuff.
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Mohamed Traore: South payments, etc, and it's not that these things have
been thought of, but rather that I didn't want to just outline that part
completely because I would like to hear from the public as well.
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Mohamed Traore: But there are some things such as mural commission's that
can be giving or language interpretation services victims legal Defense
funds public hearings and procedures so fun fun those things are
transformative justice education materials printing and mailing services.
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Mohamed Traore: language interpretation services.
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Mohamed Traore: Victim transportation fund if victims are needed to come
to iowa city.
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Mohamed Traore: In case you know the whole kogan protocols get better
going into the future and the process so that we can have them actually
present with us.
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Mohamed Traore: So they aren't just so we can actually see them while
they're speaking like right in front of us, because I believe that that
that will be very key going forward as well it's harder to convey.
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Mohamed Traore: True emotion through just a screen and when it comes to
the things that are included for designated money to Community programs
and scholarships and of the like I do see that in our duties.
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Mohamed Traore: fact finding truth telling but also the main part is also
reconciliation, so we want to have.
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Mohamed Traore: The opportunity to facilitate direct conversation and to
create a replicable model.
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Mohamed Traore: And if we're going to have a record a replicable model, I
do believe that we will need to fund some of these programs in the
Community with this money because I truly do not believe we needed.
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Mohamed Traore: A full million dollars, just to pay for some experts and
things of that nature, and there are a lot of things that the city does
currently need and I, and I know as well from.
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Mohamed Traore: My past and the way I grew up that when people are
insecure in terms of food or the amount of money they have in their bank
account, they may have issues with being able to truly stay attentive to
other things, and maybe very busy, and if we have Community programs,
such as.
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Mohamed Traore: These and financial literacy programs and things like.
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Mohamed Traore: It would really help build trust in the Community for the
Truth and Reconciliation commission's mission, and I think it would
really help to bring.
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Mohamed Traore: People from all races and backgrounds into the fold as
well if they know that this Commission is dedicated to putting forth
resolutions that will truly benefit everyone going forward and.
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Mohamed Traore: The city is would be welcome to adopt some of these
things into the into the permanent budget for other fiscal years as well
there's this whole thing is supposed to be.
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Mohamed Traore: An entire fact funding process and to see basically like
a research, study of what works, so if we don't put any funds towards
these things, to see if they work and truly benefit the community.
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Mohamed Traore: In this 16 month period in time that I wouldn't feel
comfortable recommending to the city hey you need to throw money at this
if.
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Mohamed Traore: We haven't even tested out whether it works, because I
mean people would not like their tax dollars to be wasted four years, at
a time and if we're going to create a replicable model, we should.
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Mohamed Traore: Truly test whether these things are going to work and
benefit the people of the city, the Community and those that come to
visit and with that are you the floor, thank you.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Now, your handout with your hand was up next.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I think it was just an order running you
can go ahead, I think you've been raising your hand longer than I am.
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Raneem Hamad: Thank you mo.
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Raneem Hamad: um so I actually.
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Raneem Hamad: sent in a budget proposal with Bahamas proposal but, for I
guess formatting reasons it wasn't it was an excel.
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Raneem Hamad: sheet, so it wasn't able to be.
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Raneem Hamad: included into the agenda pocket for formatting issues, but
it should be for next meeting, but if I could share the screen I.
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Raneem Hamad: Would, but I just wanted to outline a couple of things.
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Raneem Hamad: From my budget proposal.
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Raneem Hamad: So just from a little bit from my.
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Raneem Hamad: Think personal thinking so.
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Raneem Hamad: Far, I would like, I was thinking that it would be best
that we do use the full million.
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Raneem Hamad: dollars with allocated by the city for Racial justice work.
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Raneem Hamad: With the idea or the goal of 60 to 80%.
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of that money.
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Raneem Hamad: going to reparations following about following a fact
finding mission of almost I guess like that I budgeted for $50,000.
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Raneem Hamad: For so following this fact finding mission, we, I believe
that it's really important that we use as much a majority of our funds to
support reparations initiatives for whatever we find out from our fact.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Finding Mission.
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Raneem Hamad: And then, a couple other things that I budgeted for would
also be like 50,000 for mural commissions and 30,000 for multimedia
recordings, in the sense that we really need to make sure that we're able
to create a visual historical.
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Raneem Hamad: record of the things we find out from the fact finding
mission.
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Raneem Hamad: As well as creating you know various different avenues.
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For.
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Raneem Hamad: The reconciliation.
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Raneem Hamad: process and then two other things that I was also wanted to
like point out, as things that we would also need funding for would be.
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Raneem Hamad: language interpretation services like most said as.
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Raneem Hamad: Possible victims Defense fund.
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Raneem Hamad: For victims who do face retaliation from.
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Raneem Hamad: Institutions that they speak out against.
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Raneem Hamad: or and legal services funds, also for victims who don't
have access to legal services and a victim transportation fund as well
because folks aren't always going to be able to.
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Raneem Hamad: be able to access our meetings if their physical if they're
being held physical in the future, physically in the future.
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Raneem Hamad: But yeah Those are just wanted to speak a little bit on
those ideas and see what folks thing, but I will be sending full budget
proposal and.
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Jesse Case: also be helpful to look at the budgets of other try to see
what you know we don't necessarily have to reinvent the wheel, and we can
learn a lot from other from other people who've gone through this before
and I, and I would.
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Jesse Case: love to see a committee formed and works with stephanie
myself.
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Jesse Case: And as a subcommittee to work with whoever's interested in
being on that committee.
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Jesse Case: That brings bring back you know but census budget to release
for discussion.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): That was gonna be kind of you know what
I.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Was gonna say was that I feel like we're
kind of moving from the topic of what we're requesting the Council from
the Council to.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Like the next agenda item.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): um so does everyone think that 45 days
is good.
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Jesse Case: listener rivera's hands.
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Raneem Hamad: Oh sorry one second.
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Raneem Hamad: i'm just gonna I think I do have, I do have the option to
share the screen So if you guys are interested in me sharing the screen.
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Raneem Hamad: And let me know I can say I was.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: I would.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: like to go back to what the method, but that that's
a little jumping up ahead on Mexico gender idol revealing anything and.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Also.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: To.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: piggyback off of what Jeff you've mentioned, I
think these discussions are good to be within a subcommittee about like
what you're proposing bar and things like that.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Point of order.
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Jesse Case: Commissioner rivera's had his hand up for quite a while, and
then, if.
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Jesse Case: If i'm.
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Jesse Case: wishing her home on.
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Jesse Case: As long as we've already gone down that path and she's
referenced showing us her screen I would I would err on the side of that.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: And then.
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Jesse Case: And then move towards ending discussion and movement.
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Jesse Case: Towards a committee process, but I.
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Jesse Case: Just my recommendation.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: I know Commissioner various his hand up.
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Jesse Case: very patient.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: yeah you would like to speak Kevin.
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Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): he's chillin I just really appreciate
mohammed's.
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Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): reasoning behind the.
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Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): Number of the 45 day extension and
that would be in supportive that proposal, I also just.
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Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): Really, a jazz to see the initiative
that mo and rename have put into their own budget proposals I.
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Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): I look forward to reviewing some more
of the ideas that come out of any of the Commissioners, including those
on that budget subcommittee you know, to invite members of the public to
review.
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Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): The what's what will be included in
our agenda items, so that you can provide some comment as we, as we move
forward.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: towards developing this.
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Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): Budget as well.
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Thank you feel the floor.
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Raneem Hamad: Yes, i'm just trying to figure out the screen thing.
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Raneem Hamad: All right, can you guys see the screen.
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or.
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Raneem Hamad: Alright perfect.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: So here is the breakdown, I have so far.
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Raneem Hamad: And again.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: 50 30,000.
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Raneem Hamad: For mural commissions and multimedia recordings and then
again 60 to 80% of the budget being used to reparations is that it's what
is.
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Raneem Hamad: really crucial following.
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Raneem Hamad: The fact finding mission and, here are some other like
education and outreach categories that I kind of wrote that we kind of
broke down as well, but I really do think it's really important that we
make sure that we support victims in every way we.
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Raneem Hamad: Can, as this is a very traumatic process to.
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Raneem Hamad: ask people to be involved, and we need to make sure that
we're supporting them and that's why, hence the categories of victim
transportation fund legal Defense and the legal services.
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Raneem Hamad: And then the interpretation services as well, but that's
all I will share those again to the whole Commission, via the next
agenda, but thank you.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you all right um.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: So let's make a decision on the the synagogue
extension to city council.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: As well correct me if i'm wrong, did you put
emotion our own portland, though.
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hey.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): put in motion out on the floor, and
someone did second it, but Commissioner Rivera wanted um he wanted more
specifics on it so.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): step is it Okay, if I.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Like re say it.
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Anthony Currin: But, Commissioner.
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Anthony Currin: Commissioner, I actually.
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Anthony Currin: was the one who were here, and so I can get it.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): um.
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Anthony Currin: Well, that and do our seconds.
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Eleanor Dilkes: You don't have to you don't.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: I think the.
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Eleanor Dilkes: What you can do here is simply with raw that.
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Eleanor Dilkes: Motion make a new motion for a 45 day extension get a
second.
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Eleanor Dilkes: and move from there.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): um, so this is mission or le speaking I.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): want to withdraw my past motion that I
made and I am going to put forth.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): A motion to have.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Our facilitator REACH.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: out to the city council.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): and asked for a 45 day extension.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: period proposal.
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Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): This is Commissioner there I second
that motion.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: All right, definitely, I would like to take a roll,
I will start.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner current.
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Anthony Currin: Yes.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner, in the bar Jackson.
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Commissioner Navarre-Jackson: Yes.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: chair quarter yes.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner, Hamas yes.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner Harris, yes.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner reveal yes.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner or.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Yes.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: and definitely I vote yes as well.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: All right, and I believe we kind of alluded to
agenda item six, but before we have a formal discussion I wouldn't like
eat the advice of mayor and mayor pro tem of opening the agenda item to
the public, before we discussed so, are there any members of the public
that wish to.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: me make a comment on starts to shrink.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: The formation of budgets, secondly.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: If you have any please raise your hand and we will
call them.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: No, no.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: So in our last night's dinner party we kind of
alluded to it about creating.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: A million other hand up.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Go ahead and say what you're gonna say I
have a question just oh yeah.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Later in this Commission, I just wanted
to make sure I put my hand up so.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I remember to ask it sorry.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Okay, no you're good you're good.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: So.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: goes back to getting like initial comments about
let's get some work done in these in these subcommittees like let's
let's.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: band together a small group of three four
Commissioners to a committee, however, we like decide that looks and
let's let's get the work done in like bring these reports back to our
formal meetings.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Outside in the news is my personal thoughts on
Bobby outside of the budget subcommittee or in also the next agenda item
law subcommittee to review the police department development So besides
those two, I think it, it would be important to also create committees
about.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Who are the.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Experts are the national experts, we wish to see,
and things like that, but, and I think those conversations own like what
other committees can be formed grows out of US spending time having.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: sessions to do some stuff.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Some strategic planning i'm sorry about the way in
which we see.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: How we how we execute the charges that the
Commission has has set before us, we have, we have the three overarching.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: goal, a fact finding and witness testimony and
things like that, but how do we wish to do that we, I think we need to
create a infrastructure or per se on how how we have those expectations
and that may be the bylaws as well, but if we do strategic planning then
from that we can.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Have subcommittees and have to discussions about.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: What what topics and things that we want to look
at.
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But.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: We have no Henry I will do, Commissioner Ali and
then.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner, Hamas and then we'll discuss the
formation of a budget budget subcommittee.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Can you guys all hear me.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I can okay so um my only thing as it
pertains to the Budget Committee um i'll be honest that's not where my
heart is you know i'm not good with numbers I don't like looking at excel
spreadsheets do not give me joy.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): So I just hope that or i'm wondering,
that if we do have like a budget subcommittee and I know they meet
outside of this are the things that are important to me as far as the
budget goes, you know, do you think that.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): there's still a way that we can
communicate with them is that is would it be okay to.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Once we decide who this committee is
correspond with them outside of these meetings and say hey you know, like
for me personally My big thing about the budget is, I just want a lot of
things invested back into our Community.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): um I would really like to utilize and
put money into iowa city and not try to use outside of Johnson county
entities.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): But I don't really have a passion for
making you know the spreadsheets and figuring out what money goes where
so.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): um with committees in in this Commission
is that still going to be something that you know you perceive as being
able to do well, like there'd be like a leader in charge of the committee
and then we kind of just kind of what a committee looks like in general.
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Jesse Case: structurally recommended chair of the committee.
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Jesse Case: Of the subcommittee so somebody.
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Jesse Case: The information flows.
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Jesse Case: Some some direction, and then I don't and this might be
another question for legal but I don't unless as long as you don't have a
majority of the counselors right that, then it becomes a formal meeting
in a in a public.
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Jesse Case: Meeting, but I don't think there's anything that would
prevent you from communication if I think the city council has
conversations all the time right.
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Jesse Case: Whether it's in the hallway or an informal meeting or people
have to communicate between meetings, if the only time there's
communication is you know.
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Jesse Case: Three hours every couple of weeks, while we're on TV here
that it's not it's not productive and is is conducive to getting things
done so unless Eleanor has a different opinion, I think that absolutely
people can.
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Jesse Case: You know connect with you, or you can send them, you know
thoughts or whatever even attend the meeting just caution that and people
could be on more than one committee I just caution that anytime you get a
majority together to formal.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): yeah it has a.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): notice meal.
507
00:54:17.520 --> 00:54:18.840
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): For last right.
508
00:54:20.640 --> 00:54:20.970
Eleanor Dilkes: yeah.
509
00:54:21.570 --> 00:54:34.110
Eleanor Dilkes: that's right, I mean we talked about that early on, it is
if there's five of you, together a quorum, then, that has to be an
official meeting, and it has to be Minutes have to be taken, etc.
510
00:54:35.850 --> 00:54:42.000
Eleanor Dilkes: But in also subcommittees of an advisory committee, the
Council are not considered.
511
00:54:43.020 --> 00:54:52.290
Eleanor Dilkes: governmental bodies so that subcommittee as long as it's
less than five can communicate together without a problem.
512
00:54:59.010 --> 00:54:59.640
Jesse Case: named James.
513
00:55:02.550 --> 00:55:16.320
Raneem Hamad: hi um this is running speaking I brought this up almost
like think three meetings ago or two meetings ago but I really think it's
important, I agree that we do need to have subcommittees.
514
00:55:17.790 --> 00:55:21.120
Raneem Hamad: For just for the purpose of structure and I don't agree
with that.
515
00:55:22.410 --> 00:55:28.260
Raneem Hamad: But I think it's really important that before we even break
up into subcommittees that we have a discussion.
516
00:55:28.710 --> 00:55:38.610
Raneem Hamad: Like on the you know we have a foundational discussion on
just transformative justice and our visions for transformative justice
and how that is going to.
517
00:55:38.910 --> 00:55:52.500
Raneem Hamad: Be through what initiatives are we going to like aim for
this goal of transformative justice because I don't think that there's a
common ground idea of what projects and what initiatives we even want to
have as a Commission that are based.
518
00:55:52.530 --> 00:55:54.210
T'Shailyn Harrington: Around the ideas of transitional.
519
00:55:54.570 --> 00:56:05.490
Raneem Hamad: or transformative justice um I think it's really important
that we have a discussion on what we envision ourselves to do as a
Commission, what initiatives we actually want to.
520
00:56:05.490 --> 00:56:07.230
Raneem Hamad: pursue and then break.
521
00:56:07.290 --> 00:56:09.480
Raneem Hamad: up into subcommittees with those.
522
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:14.550
Raneem Hamad: You know, with that structure and, like the common idea
vision goal and.
523
00:56:14.970 --> 00:56:21.810
Raneem Hamad: Like already created beforehand, so that we know what
committees were breaking up to understand the budget one is obviously
common sense, we need a Budget Committee.
524
00:56:22.260 --> 00:56:33.870
Raneem Hamad: But before we break off into other things we need to have
specific like what are the substantial like physical manifestations of
transformative justice that we plan for as a Commission.
525
00:56:34.290 --> 00:56:36.210
T'Shailyn Harrington: And I see people in the public arm.
526
00:56:36.300 --> 00:56:37.290
Raneem Hamad: want to speak well.
527
00:56:38.010 --> 00:56:38.640
Jesse Case: I think that.
528
00:56:38.670 --> 00:56:41.310
Jesse Case: that's right, I think we need to do more than one thing at a
time.
529
00:56:42.450 --> 00:56:44.760
Jesse Case: If we're going to have conversations on.
530
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:45.570
Yolanda Spears: i'm seeing.
531
00:56:47.010 --> 00:56:51.240
Stefanie Bowers: And formerly have everybody muted if they're not
speaking, please.
532
00:56:51.570 --> 00:56:58.020
Jesse Case: I would recommend that we get bring in an expert to lead that
discussion, because unless somebody hears comfortable leaving that
discussion, we.
533
00:56:58.470 --> 00:57:08.280
Jesse Case: There are people out there and then in the country that
actually do this for a living as lead, those discussions, so I would like
to see the committee's meeting, if the Commission decides.
534
00:57:09.030 --> 00:57:21.150
Jesse Case: To have a conversation on transformative justice we bring in
somebody to workshop that for us, that would be my recommendation, and
you can you can do that and also just review our mission very, very
closely with.
535
00:57:22.260 --> 00:57:30.870
Jesse Case: stephanie do you have that document to remind us what our
mission is it and it's and I don't mean this very quickly, but.
536
00:57:31.650 --> 00:57:46.470
Jesse Case: You know that this tells us what committees and what you know
kind of the direction this is the direction from the city council that
looked comprehensively into its past and bear witness the truth of racial
injustice, how are we going to do that and who's going to work on that.
537
00:57:47.760 --> 00:58:01.290
Jesse Case: stimulate difficult conversations and reach and engage a full
cross section community and including those in the Community, not find
engaging resist are resistant to the agent who's going to work on that
and somebody's got to be thinking about that between me.
538
00:58:01.350 --> 00:58:02.220
Raneem Hamad: I think.
539
00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:16.410
Raneem Hamad: yeah I agree with that, but I think we need you to be more
specific, like not just look at these ideas and break things like themes
into three things we really need to sit down and have discussions on what
are the programs that we want to have.
540
00:58:17.040 --> 00:58:19.890
Raneem Hamad: Like what do we see happening, and I see joe's hand.
541
00:58:21.870 --> 00:58:22.710
Raneem Hamad: Joe go ahead.
542
00:58:23.610 --> 00:58:34.230
Eleanor Dilkes: Can I just interrupt here for a minute I think this is a
really good example of of how you're going to choose to control your
meetings, there was a decision made to ask for public comment at the
beginning of the meeting.
543
00:58:34.500 --> 00:58:44.760
Eleanor Dilkes: or the beginning of the item public comment was asked for
and it's now it's time for Commission discussion as i've said before, if
you want to take public comment anytime.
544
00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:51.330
Eleanor Dilkes: The public wants to comment you can do that, but you as a
group, need to decide what what that rule is.
545
00:58:55.410 --> 00:58:57.540
Raneem Hamad: I personally would like to hear what Joe has to say.
546
00:58:58.170 --> 00:59:01.800
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): yeah I also would like to hear what Joe
has to say.
547
00:59:02.220 --> 00:59:11.910
Mohamed Traore: same as well and going forward let's just be sure to ask
for public comment before we continue on with each agenda item will first
discussion.
548
00:59:12.750 --> 00:59:13.170
yeah.
549
00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:18.600
Mr Joe.
550
00:59:28.140 --> 00:59:28.710
Eric Harris: he's muted.
551
00:59:29.070 --> 00:59:30.150
Raneem Hamad: you're muted.
552
00:59:37.410 --> 00:59:40.470
Joe Coulter: I apologize for interjecting this.
553
00:59:42.210 --> 00:59:45.000
Joe Coulter: The wrong place for public comment but.
554
00:59:46.110 --> 00:59:49.290
Joe Coulter: I am part native American and.
555
00:59:50.850 --> 00:59:56.970
Joe Coulter: I have served on the ad hoc diversity committee for the city
of iowa city.
556
00:59:57.570 --> 00:59:59.130
Joe Coulter: And I have served.
557
00:59:59.550 --> 01:00:06.360
Joe Coulter: Six years have been partly is chairman of the Human Rights
Commission in iowa city.
558
01:00:08.040 --> 01:00:11.880
Joe Coulter: And the suggestion that I would make and i'll keep this
brief.
559
01:00:13.620 --> 01:00:15.450
Joe Coulter: Is that you.
560
01:00:17.220 --> 01:00:20.100
Joe Coulter: That the ad hoc tr see.
561
01:00:22.140 --> 01:00:23.010
Joe Coulter: Think about.
562
01:00:23.430 --> 01:00:24.420
T'Shailyn Harrington: breaking up.
563
01:00:24.540 --> 01:00:26.070
Joe Coulter: into four member.
564
01:00:28.350 --> 01:00:29.010
T'Shailyn Harrington: committees.
565
01:00:30.270 --> 01:00:30.390
T'Shailyn Harrington: and
566
01:00:30.510 --> 01:00:32.190
Joe Coulter: subcommittees if you wish.
567
01:00:34.560 --> 01:00:35.790
T'Shailyn Harrington: Law enforcement.
568
01:00:36.570 --> 01:00:38.100
Joe Coulter: That deal with housing and.
569
01:00:38.100 --> 01:00:42.360
Joe Coulter: homelessness that deal with education issues.
570
01:00:43.380 --> 01:00:56.340
Joe Coulter: and deal with the budget and there may be another committee,
and if you do this in such a way, where you have only four members of
that.
571
01:00:57.990 --> 01:01:00.750
Joe Coulter: committee or that sub committee.
572
01:01:02.520 --> 01:01:05.730
Joe Coulter: You will be able to hold public.
573
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:14.760
Joe Coulter: forums and and me, and without violating the law or the the
rules.
574
01:01:16.530 --> 01:01:19.050
Joe Coulter: The public law rules.
575
01:01:20.190 --> 01:01:24.750
Joe Coulter: about things so i'm just suggesting that.
576
01:01:26.100 --> 01:01:31.620
Joe Coulter: You put on the agenda for next time is what kind of
committees do you want.
577
01:01:32.730 --> 01:01:36.030
Joe Coulter: And limit them to four people and.
578
01:01:38.670 --> 01:01:54.000
Joe Coulter: Get recommendations at each meeting from each of those
committees that the whole Commission, then, can consider and decide
whether they need to be modified or to go ahead, or whatever.
579
01:01:55.230 --> 01:01:55.650
Joe Coulter: Thank you.
580
01:01:56.490 --> 01:01:57.240
Raneem Hamad: Thank you, Joe.
581
01:01:58.080 --> 01:01:59.610
Joe Coulter: I say bye mommy na.
582
01:01:59.640 --> 01:02:00.690
T'Shailyn Harrington: gwathmey num.
583
01:02:01.590 --> 01:02:05.640
Joe Coulter: Later, again, I will see you Indians and never say goodbye.
584
01:02:06.780 --> 01:02:07.920
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Thank you so much.
585
01:02:12.420 --> 01:02:14.310
T'Shailyn Harrington: I think i'm.
586
01:02:16.260 --> 01:02:16.980
T'Shailyn Harrington: In a way, that.
587
01:02:17.010 --> 01:02:21.480
T'Shailyn Harrington: Each Commissioner has been dancing around the same
understanding and the same desire.
588
01:02:24.450 --> 01:02:32.940
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner hermano wishing for to have
conversations about transformative justice and what that truly means me
saying.
589
01:02:33.990 --> 01:02:39.870
T'Shailyn Harrington: There, there should be a structure in place in
focusing on.
590
01:02:41.880 --> 01:02:50.670
T'Shailyn Harrington: institution that was was the first term that I have
thrown out many, many meetings ago was like focusing on different
institutions and.
591
01:02:51.840 --> 01:03:06.210
T'Shailyn Harrington: And joe's comment of like looking at low looking at
housing looking at this match, I think that that goes into and it's the
same across the board, that we all wish to like client focus areas.
592
01:03:07.290 --> 01:03:13.410
T'Shailyn Harrington: To to see to cover the truth of thing and.
593
01:03:14.850 --> 01:03:20.910
T'Shailyn Harrington: And we do so, we must need to have a structure
infrastructure, all in place in.
594
01:03:22.410 --> 01:03:24.420
T'Shailyn Harrington: that's great yes, Commission.
595
01:03:26.160 --> 01:03:28.920
Raneem Hamad: So, could we possibly have a discussion.
596
01:03:28.950 --> 01:03:30.480
Raneem Hamad: Of visions.
597
01:03:30.510 --> 01:03:39.390
Raneem Hamad: For transitional slash transformative justice to be added
to next meetings agenda and then also like how that breakdown created
like you said as well.
598
01:03:43.560 --> 01:03:44.880
Mohamed Traore: I would like to second that motion.
599
01:03:46.110 --> 01:03:46.830
Royceann Porter: I would like to say.
600
01:03:51.690 --> 01:03:52.080
Royceann Porter: Hello.
601
01:03:52.560 --> 01:03:53.730
T'Shailyn Harrington: yeah yeah.
602
01:03:54.750 --> 01:03:57.360
Royceann Porter: I actually will agree with me, because of the simple.
603
01:03:57.360 --> 01:03:57.750
Royceann Porter: fact.
604
01:03:58.470 --> 01:03:59.010
T'Shailyn Harrington: I think.
605
01:03:59.190 --> 01:04:07.710
Royceann Porter: In order to get something on the budget, we can
literally request it in our meetings for it to be put on the next agenda
item.
606
01:04:13.620 --> 01:04:15.060
Jesse Case: and definitely do you have those.
607
01:04:15.060 --> 01:04:16.800
T'Shailyn Harrington: Two things that are ronnie.
608
01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:20.610
Stefanie Bowers: I do thank you.
609
01:04:23.850 --> 01:04:24.930
T'Shailyn Harrington: My name is ronnie.
610
01:04:25.290 --> 01:04:26.970
Raneem Hamad: Not raw like.
611
01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:29.580
T'Shailyn Harrington: it's just running running yeah.
612
01:04:33.360 --> 01:04:33.720
T'Shailyn Harrington: Would.
613
01:04:34.560 --> 01:04:35.130
Mohamed Traore: would be hard.
614
01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:36.750
Mohamed Traore: For me, to send the roll call vote.
615
01:04:37.080 --> 01:04:37.890
Mohamed Traore: Due to the second.
616
01:04:39.030 --> 01:04:41.280
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): yeah I was gonna say was it wasn't very
clear any.
617
01:04:42.750 --> 01:04:43.470
T'Shailyn Harrington: motion.
618
01:04:43.590 --> 01:04:45.870
Raneem Hamad: i'll make a motion to have.
619
01:04:46.170 --> 01:05:00.180
Raneem Hamad: visions of transitional transformative justice be added to
the next meetings agenda and followed by a creation of like the four
categories of committees.
620
01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:03.990
Mohamed Traore: Oh it's like the second that motion.
621
01:05:06.300 --> 01:05:07.680
T'Shailyn Harrington: stephanie i'll take roll call.
622
01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:12.240
Stefanie Bowers: Okay, thank you.
623
01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:16.590
T'Shailyn Harrington: hold on one second when we get those lists.
624
01:05:18.150 --> 01:05:19.230
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner Ali.
625
01:05:20.730 --> 01:05:21.270
T'Shailyn Harrington: Yes.
626
01:05:23.460 --> 01:05:25.560
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner current yes.
627
01:05:29.010 --> 01:05:30.360
Commissioner Navarro Jackson.
628
01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:32.010
T'Shailyn Harrington: Yes.
629
01:05:33.780 --> 01:05:36.270
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner porter or care for their i'm sorry.
630
01:05:37.200 --> 01:05:37.650
Yes.
631
01:05:40.590 --> 01:05:41.760
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner Hammad.
632
01:05:42.840 --> 01:05:43.470
T'Shailyn Harrington: Yes.
633
01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:47.490
T'Shailyn Harrington: missionary hair yes.
634
01:05:49.080 --> 01:05:51.180
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner Rivera yes.
635
01:05:53.070 --> 01:05:54.120
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner Troy.
636
01:05:55.740 --> 01:05:56.220
Mohamed Traore: Yes.
637
01:05:58.230 --> 01:06:00.570
T'Shailyn Harrington: Definitely helped me as a yes as well.
638
01:06:01.380 --> 01:06:02.010
T'Shailyn Harrington: Okay, thank you.
639
01:06:03.180 --> 01:06:04.230
Jesse Case: who's going to lead that.
640
01:06:05.700 --> 01:06:07.320
Jesse Case: Do we need to reach out to.
641
01:06:07.380 --> 01:06:09.360
Jesse Case: Do we need, would you like me to.
642
01:06:11.370 --> 01:06:13.440
Jesse Case: touch basis how many meetings by.
643
01:06:14.610 --> 01:06:19.200
Jesse Case: lead that discussion, I know we were contact, this is going
to bring this up later by.
644
01:06:20.580 --> 01:06:28.020
Jesse Case: Eduardo Gonzales was has reached out he I think he reached
out to his Commission before he's.
645
01:06:29.040 --> 01:06:33.210
Jesse Case: We want to get a couple people experts on thc tlc.
646
01:06:33.960 --> 01:06:34.920
T'Shailyn Harrington: He did.
647
01:06:36.150 --> 01:06:36.390
Jesse Case: That.
648
01:06:36.510 --> 01:06:41.640
Jesse Case: to lead that discussion or do I, how do you want to proceed
and what do you want me to do to facilitate that.
649
01:06:43.470 --> 01:06:52.170
Jesse Case: We want to just bring him in or do you want to get other
people that then we just review their bios between meetings and hopefully
somebody can make it next week or do we want.
650
01:06:52.740 --> 01:06:53.250
Raneem Hamad: I can.
651
01:06:53.640 --> 01:06:56.700
Raneem Hamad: Also, possibly have some time to I have a lot of materials
on.
652
01:06:56.700 --> 01:06:58.350
Raneem Hamad: transformative justice that I can also.
653
01:06:58.350 --> 01:06:59.550
Raneem Hamad: Like prepare and send.
654
01:06:59.550 --> 01:07:00.120
Anthony Currin: out to.
655
01:07:00.510 --> 01:07:02.310
Raneem Hamad: Commissioners and videos that we can play.
656
01:07:02.310 --> 01:07:02.670
Raneem Hamad: During.
657
01:07:02.700 --> 01:07:03.870
Raneem Hamad: Commission meeting possibly as.
658
01:07:03.870 --> 01:07:08.490
Raneem Hamad: Well, so I just would just need some time to like collect
all my resources together.
659
01:07:12.330 --> 01:07:14.610
Stefanie Bowers: Okay, can you see me in that to.
660
01:07:14.640 --> 01:07:16.440
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner, of my just so I can make sure.
661
01:07:16.440 --> 01:07:17.940
Stefanie Bowers: That we have a proper setup.
662
01:07:20.100 --> 01:07:20.580
Stefanie Bowers: Thank you.
663
01:07:24.690 --> 01:07:28.050
Jesse Case: So what allows you to prepare for this discussion we're
having.
664
01:07:28.080 --> 01:07:28.530
T'Shailyn Harrington: Oh yeah.
665
01:07:29.790 --> 01:07:31.650
T'Shailyn Harrington: I personally think that.
666
01:07:33.030 --> 01:07:35.760
T'Shailyn Harrington: it's best to have a.
667
01:07:37.350 --> 01:07:40.830
T'Shailyn Harrington: Think professional is the long term, but to have.
668
01:07:43.290 --> 01:07:49.560
T'Shailyn Harrington: Someone with the the the knowledge and about racial
equity in.
669
01:07:50.580 --> 01:07:51.450
T'Shailyn Harrington: Any quality.
670
01:07:53.100 --> 01:07:58.230
T'Shailyn Harrington: To to pretty much guide us through the
understanding of.
671
01:08:00.720 --> 01:08:02.280
T'Shailyn Harrington: The agenda items.
672
01:08:03.300 --> 01:08:05.700
T'Shailyn Harrington: And I personally think.
673
01:08:07.050 --> 01:08:09.360
T'Shailyn Harrington: Eduardo would be a great resource.
674
01:08:10.620 --> 01:08:21.600
T'Shailyn Harrington: To reach out to but also, I think there's been
mentioned been mentioned in meetings prior but royston in mind, we.
675
01:08:23.100 --> 01:08:37.800
T'Shailyn Harrington: attended like an all day long webinar that was
hosted by many, many, many individuals around the country and I will say
around the world, there are people from Ireland and South Africa on the
call.
676
01:08:38.520 --> 01:08:53.010
T'Shailyn Harrington: That had knowledge of your see in things like that,
so I think it would be worth also reaching out to one or two of those
names as well and asking them what they be interested but.
677
01:08:53.670 --> 01:09:06.480
T'Shailyn Harrington: Aside from finding the people who can join arm or
four meetings to have the conversation it's also what questions do we
want to know the answers to.
678
01:09:07.950 --> 01:09:15.720
T'Shailyn Harrington: To help to help us have a baseline and common
understanding to go for forward so.
679
01:09:17.790 --> 01:09:19.740
T'Shailyn Harrington: I think yeah yeah.
680
01:09:21.150 --> 01:09:23.280
Jesse Case: Do you want to do in racing want to reach out to the.
681
01:09:23.280 --> 01:09:32.310
Jesse Case: People that sponsor the webinar to see if they can, if
they're in you know just to get more information on that and people want
me to reach upward Eduardo and do people want to.
682
01:09:33.900 --> 01:09:39.060
Jesse Case: How do you want to facilitate the questions that people have
do you want to send them stuff me or me or.
683
01:09:39.180 --> 01:09:40.800
Raneem Hamad: I have an idea let's see.
684
01:09:42.360 --> 01:09:51.900
Raneem Hamad: i'm a commotion for this as well that we have that we
basically have send an invite out invitations out to anyone.
685
01:09:53.430 --> 01:10:05.370
Raneem Hamad: To come basically and give five minute presentations on
transformative justice, I know the working group with the University of
iowa Center for human rights, who helped us helped me create the mandate.
686
01:10:05.370 --> 01:10:06.030
Raneem Hamad: itself would.
687
01:10:06.090 --> 01:10:06.510
Be.
688
01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:10.410
Raneem Hamad: would be willing to come and speak and do a presentation as
well.
689
01:10:11.010 --> 01:10:13.350
Raneem Hamad: Under like like Eduardo could come in and give a.
690
01:10:13.350 --> 01:10:16.170
Raneem Hamad: five minute presentation and we can just share that
invitation out.
691
01:10:16.470 --> 01:10:19.560
Raneem Hamad: With folks and just have presenters.
692
01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:19.980
Raneem Hamad: In.
693
01:10:20.100 --> 01:10:20.670
T'Shailyn Harrington: come in and.
694
01:10:20.790 --> 01:10:21.540
Raneem Hamad: Like give quick.
695
01:10:21.630 --> 01:10:32.220
Raneem Hamad: five minute presentations on historical examples of tr
sees, whether in South Africa or Latin America and then also just like
key concepts about transformative.
696
01:10:32.220 --> 01:10:32.970
justice.
697
01:10:47.040 --> 01:10:48.360
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I just was gonna.
698
01:10:49.980 --> 01:10:58.470
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Ask if we were still we're kind of
talking about like the historical context of PRC wanted to make sure that
we kind of stayed.
699
01:10:58.950 --> 01:10:59.400
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: Actually.
700
01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:01.080
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): We were forming a.
701
01:11:01.230 --> 01:11:01.980
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Budget.
702
01:11:02.280 --> 01:11:11.640
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): committee or if we're kind of more
towards agenda item number a which is finding national experts.
703
01:11:12.720 --> 01:11:25.380
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): that are on the subject matter it's just
it's just kind of a little frustrating just because I had questions about
the formation of the Subcommittee, but then I also do have a vested
interest in the formation of the other Subcommittee, so I just.
704
01:11:25.380 --> 01:11:26.040
wanted to know.
705
01:11:27.270 --> 01:11:32.670
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): If we could get yeah where we're at
figured out a little bit better.
706
01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:37.800
Jesse Case: So these are connected rights as we talked.
707
01:11:38.430 --> 01:11:40.740
Jesse Case: About subcommittees and then need experts in order.
708
01:11:40.740 --> 01:11:44.970
Jesse Case: Good what I, I agree, I think you might want to get back, I
think.
709
01:11:46.320 --> 01:11:54.030
Jesse Case: Again, it goes back to doing more than one thing at a time, I
think we can form subcommittees move forward while we're planning next
week's agenda so we're.
710
01:11:54.120 --> 01:11:57.330
Jesse Case: So there's some movement between meetings, while we're
planning.
711
01:11:57.360 --> 01:11:59.520
T'Shailyn Harrington: Education and training.
712
01:12:01.230 --> 01:12:10.800
Jesse Case: So maybe maybe for and I apologize if i'm making people jump
around i'm not i'm just trying to get a handle on to, but if maybe we can
go back and form a couple committees.
713
01:12:10.860 --> 01:12:11.970
So at least there are.
714
01:12:14.040 --> 01:12:15.240
Jesse Case: We at least something's going to.
715
01:12:15.240 --> 01:12:16.500
happen between meetings.
716
01:12:20.610 --> 01:12:23.820
T'Shailyn Harrington: i'm Jessie How would you suggest that we proceed
with.
717
01:12:26.430 --> 01:12:26.880
T'Shailyn Harrington: This.
718
01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:36.390
T'Shailyn Harrington: agenda item with the subcommittee's should we just
go ahead and form form one or yeah I would take volunteers.
719
01:12:38.250 --> 01:12:40.890
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Running head Oh yes, yes.
720
01:12:42.810 --> 01:12:47.460
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Nina emotion and I wanted to second it,
but I just didn't know if steph got that.
721
01:12:47.490 --> 01:12:48.150
T'Shailyn Harrington: In her.
722
01:12:49.170 --> 01:12:50.490
Stefanie Bowers: Yes, I have, I have it.
723
01:12:51.150 --> 01:12:54.450
Stefanie Bowers: And I have you noted a second Thank you.
724
01:12:57.180 --> 01:12:58.560
T'Shailyn Harrington: Can you read the motion again, please.
725
01:13:02.430 --> 01:13:03.510
Stefanie Bowers: Do invite.
726
01:13:05.100 --> 01:13:06.000
Stefanie Bowers: I think you said.
727
01:13:06.030 --> 01:13:08.820
Stefanie Bowers: Anyone to come to a meeting.
728
01:13:08.910 --> 01:13:11.730
Stefanie Bowers: Of the tr see to give five.
729
01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:12.300
Stefanie Bowers: minute.
730
01:13:12.930 --> 01:13:15.480
Stefanie Bowers: presentations on transformative justice.
731
01:13:17.550 --> 01:13:18.750
Stefanie Bowers: conditioner him out is that.
732
01:13:19.110 --> 01:13:19.530
Correct.
733
01:13:29.610 --> 01:13:31.410
Mohamed Traore: Oh, Commissioner, modern muted.
734
01:13:31.500 --> 01:13:32.820
Raneem Hamad: Oh yes, yes, sorry.
735
01:13:34.110 --> 01:13:34.740
Thank you.
736
01:13:42.540 --> 01:13:43.740
T'Shailyn Harrington: I will take roll call.
737
01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:47.130
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner.
738
01:13:48.510 --> 01:13:49.080
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Yes.
739
01:13:50.370 --> 01:13:50.730
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner.
740
01:14:01.200 --> 01:14:01.590
Commissioner.
741
01:14:06.570 --> 01:14:09.270
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner Navarro Jackson yes.
742
01:14:13.350 --> 01:14:15.030
T'Shailyn Harrington: reporter yes.
743
01:14:18.360 --> 01:14:19.200
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner hermano.
744
01:14:21.030 --> 01:14:21.810
Raneem Hamad: Yes.
745
01:14:23.490 --> 01:14:24.240
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner hair.
746
01:14:25.320 --> 01:14:25.800
T'Shailyn Harrington: Yes.
747
01:14:27.330 --> 01:14:29.370
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner Rivera yes.
748
01:14:31.230 --> 01:14:32.430
Commissioner trey lori.
749
01:14:35.190 --> 01:14:35.640
Mohamed Traore: Yes.
750
01:14:37.290 --> 01:14:39.660
T'Shailyn Harrington: And stephanie you can vote me as as as well.
751
01:14:43.980 --> 01:14:44.730
Stefanie Bowers: Okay, thank you.
752
01:14:45.330 --> 01:14:46.650
Jesse Case: Go back to the committee's that.
753
01:14:47.040 --> 01:14:47.280
Jesse Case: If.
754
01:14:47.580 --> 01:14:51.720
Jesse Case: Muhammad or wants to share committee or somebody should
volunteer the.
755
01:14:51.720 --> 01:14:53.190
Jesse Case: chair committee that's.
756
01:14:53.640 --> 01:14:54.870
Jesse Case: has an interest in that.
757
01:14:54.930 --> 01:14:57.690
Jesse Case: And then we get a couple volunteers and then you just.
758
01:14:58.200 --> 01:14:59.430
Jesse Case: go and meet and talk.
759
01:14:59.910 --> 01:15:04.230
Jesse Case: need offline to meet tomorrow meet next week, whenever and
talk about it and bring back.
760
01:15:04.260 --> 01:15:05.130
Jesse Case: Some discussion.
761
01:15:06.150 --> 01:15:06.870
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): and
762
01:15:06.900 --> 01:15:08.160
T'Shailyn Harrington: This is Muhammad here.
763
01:15:08.190 --> 01:15:09.330
Mohamed Traore: I would just like to ask if.
764
01:15:09.330 --> 01:15:11.160
Mohamed Traore: we're going to be a suggestion.
765
01:15:11.190 --> 01:15:12.060
T'Shailyn Harrington: chairs for committees.
766
01:15:12.300 --> 01:15:14.760
Mohamed Traore: Would this be something we'd motion and then vote on or
we.
767
01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:16.020
Mohamed Traore: Just be picking that.
768
01:15:20.640 --> 01:15:21.840
Jesse Case: Thank you, I think you.
769
01:15:22.500 --> 01:15:23.700
Jesse Case: know you can volunteer.
770
01:15:24.210 --> 01:15:24.480
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): yeah.
771
01:15:24.750 --> 01:15:26.310
Jesse Case: No one wants to chair.
772
01:15:26.370 --> 01:15:28.200
Jesse Case: You can work it out informally or.
773
01:15:28.290 --> 01:15:29.580
Jesse Case: If it goes to a vote it goes.
774
01:15:30.060 --> 01:15:31.530
T'Shailyn Harrington: But I mean.
775
01:15:31.680 --> 01:15:35.130
Jesse Case: Unless somebody else wants to share the Budget Committee.
776
01:15:35.910 --> 01:15:36.960
Eric Harris: Know he'd done all the work.
777
01:15:37.710 --> 01:15:44.910
Mohamed Traore: it's time actually at this time, I would like to say that
I would like to have a commissioner macho the Budget Committee.
778
01:15:49.380 --> 01:15:49.740
Commissioner.
779
01:15:50.970 --> 01:15:53.670
Raneem Hamad: Sure, I don't mind sharing the Budget Committee.
780
01:15:54.090 --> 01:16:03.210
Raneem Hamad: But is that in the police and committee so i'm not really
sure can I have some time to think about the position I guess.
781
01:16:04.410 --> 01:16:06.870
Jesse Case: Why don't you form a committee and then you can decide who
chairs are.
782
01:16:06.900 --> 01:16:07.380
yeah.
783
01:16:08.400 --> 01:16:09.360
Raneem Hamad: I don't mind being.
784
01:16:09.480 --> 01:16:10.920
Raneem Hamad: And I don't mind being in that yeah.
785
01:16:11.400 --> 01:16:13.290
Jesse Case: just get three or four people who are.
786
01:16:13.470 --> 01:16:13.950
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): willing to.
787
01:16:14.460 --> 01:16:20.640
Jesse Case: Talk about it in the next couple weeks and flesh out some
ideas and you can maybe you don't need a chair, maybe it's just a group.
788
01:16:20.790 --> 01:16:27.150
Raneem Hamad: yeah honestly I prefer non hierarchical leadership, so I
don't I prefer not to be a chair, but yes.
789
01:16:27.330 --> 01:16:31.320
Jesse Case: Some somebody just needs to be a point person for stephanie
and me so.
790
01:16:32.400 --> 01:16:34.080
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): How would you like to do that.
791
01:16:34.740 --> 01:16:36.060
Mohamed Traore: i'll do that, then, in that case.
792
01:16:36.780 --> 01:16:43.260
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Who else wants to be on the committee
for the budget is anyone.
793
01:16:49.620 --> 01:16:50.430
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Beyond on it.
794
01:16:51.000 --> 01:17:07.110
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): um I just don't want to be in charge of
it my interest realizing the police department, so I would be happy to
give my input and help facilitate conversations um but yeah I don't want
to be in charge of it by any means.
795
01:17:11.760 --> 01:17:14.580
Mohamed Traore: I wanted, we end up I don't want to be in the budget.
796
01:17:15.570 --> 01:17:17.850
Mohamed Traore: If we end up with fewer members, then for.
797
01:17:17.940 --> 01:17:23.400
Mohamed Traore: On a Budget Committee as well, this could be a situation
where we could really look tab public comment and.
798
01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:28.650
Mohamed Traore: People from the public participating in that and also
trying to bring in like Community business leaders.
799
01:17:29.130 --> 01:17:33.570
Mohamed Traore: And people in the school district as well in these
conversations and meetings.
800
01:17:34.830 --> 01:17:41.280
Jesse Case: and extending the budget if the Council approves extending
the timeline 45 days it gives you some time to look at other budgets and.
801
01:17:42.720 --> 01:17:44.550
Jesse Case: So I think we're not under the.
802
01:17:45.210 --> 01:17:46.440
Jesse Case: pressures we were.
803
01:17:48.420 --> 01:17:49.020
Jesse Case: Going into this.
804
01:17:49.920 --> 01:17:50.340
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): yeah.
805
01:17:50.430 --> 01:17:51.690
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): And Mohammed and.
806
01:17:51.720 --> 01:17:53.460
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I know i'm.
807
01:17:53.700 --> 01:18:01.620
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Some contacts and the Human Rights
Commission that have done a lot of work with grants and working with
budgets and stuff like that, so I can help get those.
808
01:18:01.770 --> 01:18:04.260
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): conversation started and maybe we can
have.
809
01:18:04.260 --> 01:18:08.190
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): something substantial to come up with by
the next meeting.
810
01:18:10.050 --> 01:18:13.200
Jesse Case: I know i'm speaking a lot this meeting I hope not too.
811
01:18:14.370 --> 01:18:24.450
Jesse Case: much information form other committees, whatever you can form
one committee, you can form three committees, you could go slows long as
some things are moving forward only.
812
01:18:27.510 --> 01:18:28.080
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): had his hand.
813
01:18:28.890 --> 01:18:29.760
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): yeah this is.
814
01:18:30.960 --> 01:18:34.440
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): absent other interested Commissioners
also train the Budget Committee.
815
01:18:39.420 --> 01:18:50.670
T'Shailyn Harrington: So just to review we have Commissioner MOD
Commissioner tree or a Commissioner hourly and Commissioner Rivera for
the budget Commission committee subcommittee.
816
01:18:51.630 --> 01:18:53.160
T'Shailyn Harrington: that's correct okay sounds good.
817
01:18:55.530 --> 01:18:59.910
T'Shailyn Harrington: Are there any other comments from Commissioners on
this agenda item.
818
01:19:02.910 --> 01:19:03.090
Now.
819
01:19:05.460 --> 01:19:06.600
T'Shailyn Harrington: We will be moving.
820
01:19:08.790 --> 01:19:09.840
T'Shailyn Harrington: What about the police.
821
01:19:12.930 --> 01:19:13.440
Eric Harris: Left next.
822
01:19:15.450 --> 01:19:16.260
T'Shailyn Harrington: that's the next one.
823
01:19:19.140 --> 01:19:36.840
T'Shailyn Harrington: So, the next item on the agenda is the creation of
a subcommittee to review the preliminary plan to restructure the iowa
city police department, I would like to open this up to the public, is
there any members of the public that wish to comment on this agenda item.
824
01:19:41.700 --> 01:19:42.870
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): I see Mr coulter's hand.
825
01:19:55.320 --> 01:19:57.660
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): Mr coulter i'd like to invite you to
speak for there you go.
826
01:19:58.110 --> 01:20:01.830
Joe Coulter: i'm sorry i'm a little slow and i'm muting myself.
827
01:20:02.970 --> 01:20:08.190
Joe Coulter: Yes, I think what you're doing is very good you've got a
Budget Committee now.
828
01:20:08.670 --> 01:20:09.720
T'Shailyn Harrington: And you.
829
01:20:09.930 --> 01:20:17.250
Joe Coulter: need to keep the membership below five people it's got to be
for people okay.
830
01:20:18.960 --> 01:20:27.060
Joe Coulter: That allows you to go out and meet together and collect
public input and all kinds of things.
831
01:20:28.230 --> 01:20:32.370
Joe Coulter: Which if you got five you're going to be in trouble so.
832
01:20:33.300 --> 01:20:34.350
T'Shailyn Harrington: Make it for.
833
01:20:37.110 --> 01:20:38.820
Joe Coulter: People can serve on multiple.
834
01:20:38.820 --> 01:20:40.410
Joe Coulter: committees and.
835
01:20:41.310 --> 01:20:44.490
Joe Coulter: I think you all, are doing good so Keep it up.
836
01:20:45.840 --> 01:20:46.740
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Thank you, Joe.
837
01:20:47.130 --> 01:20:47.520
Eric Harris: Thank you.
838
01:20:48.630 --> 01:20:50.310
T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you Nicholas.
839
01:20:59.940 --> 01:21:01.470
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): you're still muted Nicholas.
840
01:21:07.020 --> 01:21:09.420
Nicholas Theisen: Sorry, I wasn't able to unmute myself.
841
01:21:11.850 --> 01:21:16.680
Nicholas Theisen: So, specifically with regard to a committee around on.
842
01:21:17.490 --> 01:21:29.250
Nicholas Theisen: city managers plan, I just want to strongly suggest to
whoever I have no objection to it, I think it's a good idea, but I do
want to strongly suggest to whoever does end up on that committee.
843
01:21:29.820 --> 01:21:38.190
Nicholas Theisen: But one of the major problems with the entire like
feedback system so far for the city managers plan is that.
844
01:21:38.730 --> 01:21:49.230
Nicholas Theisen: It kind of hasn't been responsive to Community feedback
really at all, I mean the So if you look at the document that the city
manager produced it's it contains.
845
01:21:50.190 --> 01:21:56.820
Nicholas Theisen: Both a sort of summary and then also an actual like
typescript of all the comments that people gave at the listening
sessions.
846
01:21:57.300 --> 01:22:02.640
Nicholas Theisen: And the picture that that paints versus the picture
that the report itself paints.
847
01:22:03.300 --> 01:22:10.290
Nicholas Theisen: Like they're completely different things, and so I
think it's really important when you're getting public feedback.
848
01:22:10.740 --> 01:22:22.470
Nicholas Theisen: To find a way to actually get that into the proposal
because there seems to be a real disconnect there that's my only
suggestion like I said, the committee itself seems like a very good idea,
so thank you.
849
01:22:25.440 --> 01:22:26.520
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Thanks Nicholas.
850
01:22:27.930 --> 01:22:28.230
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): and
851
01:22:28.260 --> 01:22:31.980
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): It looks like Emilia Roberts Can you see
that to shaolin.
852
01:22:38.280 --> 01:22:39.090
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): amelia.
853
01:22:41.700 --> 01:22:42.570
Emilia Roberts: hi sorry.
854
01:22:43.470 --> 01:22:45.810
Emilia Roberts: I would just like to second everything that Nicholas.
855
01:22:45.900 --> 01:22:49.590
Emilia Roberts: On just said, I still would like to give Joe a huge thank
you because I think.
856
01:22:49.650 --> 01:22:51.300
T'Shailyn Harrington: These are really good ideas, especially.
857
01:22:51.720 --> 01:23:04.440
Emilia Roberts: surrounding like the housing issues and policing be I
really just want a second i'm with Nicholas second kind of add on to how
flawed the firm plan even is to begin with.
858
01:23:05.130 --> 01:23:10.470
Emilia Roberts: I think that's something that really needs to be looked
at, especially regarding the public feedback, because we know.
859
01:23:10.950 --> 01:23:13.470
Emilia Roberts: We very much know look feedback was not.
860
01:23:13.560 --> 01:23:22.050
Emilia Roberts: included at all in this making the budget and I also I,
this will probably happen anyways but also really like to see her name on
that.
861
01:23:23.100 --> 01:23:30.060
Emilia Roberts: In that kind of group just somebody that is an ifr REP
that I think is really important to me to have on there, so thank you.
862
01:23:38.160 --> 01:23:38.520
T'Shailyn Harrington: and
863
01:23:40.200 --> 01:23:40.590
T'Shailyn Harrington: Lena.
864
01:23:42.030 --> 01:23:42.690
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): angie.
865
01:23:50.790 --> 01:23:52.110
Angelina Rae Jordan: Okay, can you guys hear me.
866
01:23:52.710 --> 01:23:53.610
T'Shailyn Harrington: yeah yeah.
867
01:23:54.300 --> 01:23:55.290
T'Shailyn Harrington: Okay um.
868
01:23:55.680 --> 01:23:59.370
Angelina Rae Jordan: i'm not 100% sure, but I just wanted to bring it
into tier sees.
869
01:23:59.370 --> 01:24:00.780
Angelina Rae Jordan: A kind of radar.
870
01:24:00.810 --> 01:24:08.160
Angelina Rae Jordan: I believe the City Council is working with
nonprofits you know the organizations to do contracted.
871
01:24:08.190 --> 01:24:09.450
T'Shailyn Harrington: out outreach.
872
01:24:10.200 --> 01:24:11.400
Angelina Rae Jordan: On this topic.
873
01:24:11.880 --> 01:24:24.120
Angelina Rae Jordan: So just just putting that into your awareness again
i'm not 100% sure what that looks like or where they're at but they might
already have contracted or spoken with you know folks at dream city or
neighborhood centers that can have.
874
01:24:24.150 --> 01:24:25.110
T'Shailyn Harrington: A direct pulse.
875
01:24:25.440 --> 01:24:27.390
Angelina Rae Jordan: On folks in gaining.
876
01:24:27.810 --> 01:24:30.120
T'Shailyn Harrington: Information so just find that out, I think you.
877
01:24:32.490 --> 01:24:33.390
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Thanks angie.
878
01:24:34.500 --> 01:24:35.340
T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you angie.
879
01:24:38.250 --> 01:24:43.170
T'Shailyn Harrington: Alright i'm Nicholas you have your hand up again,
did you want to comment again.
880
01:24:47.460 --> 01:24:48.090
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Then same with the.
881
01:24:52.170 --> 01:24:53.160
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner ali's.
882
01:24:55.980 --> 01:24:56.910
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Can you guys hear me.
883
01:24:58.590 --> 01:25:01.260
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): hmm um so.
884
01:25:02.700 --> 01:25:22.080
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): The, this is about the preliminary plan
to restructure the police department, and I would like to ask to either
like be in charge of this committee or also work with running to lead
this committee i've already like outside of this condition i've already
started doing the work.
885
01:25:22.110 --> 01:25:23.550
T'Shailyn Harrington: and engaging with.
886
01:25:24.900 --> 01:25:30.360
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Male black males that are my age that
grew up in this Community.
887
01:25:31.080 --> 01:25:32.880
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): As well as Mohammed was also involved.
888
01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:34.320
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): In that conversation.
889
01:25:34.650 --> 01:25:36.750
T'Shailyn Harrington: I facilitated conversations.
890
01:25:36.840 --> 01:25:38.370
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Between like the Council REP.
891
01:25:39.420 --> 01:25:41.040
T'Shailyn Harrington: Who has also worked with.
892
01:25:41.040 --> 01:25:41.430
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): The.
893
01:25:41.460 --> 01:25:44.580
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Johnson county emergency communications.
894
01:25:46.470 --> 01:25:47.100
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): area.
895
01:25:47.160 --> 01:25:49.410
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): And i've reached out to.
896
01:25:50.250 --> 01:25:52.470
T'Shailyn Harrington: A few people within the.
897
01:25:54.420 --> 01:25:57.090
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I was city like public defender's
office.
898
01:25:57.150 --> 01:25:58.290
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): i've been working on this.
899
01:25:58.290 --> 01:26:05.640
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): extensively outside of the tlc and
really passionate about it, and I think that.
900
01:26:06.720 --> 01:26:07.770
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): We really.
901
01:26:07.800 --> 01:26:08.790
need to get.
902
01:26:09.870 --> 01:26:11.850
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): A statement made regarding these.
903
01:26:11.850 --> 01:26:25.110
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Not only the preliminary plan to
restructure the police department, because that's not the only vein there
also is an ocr report from the things that happened on June third that
they haven't even really began discussing.
904
01:26:26.880 --> 01:26:27.330
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): and
905
01:26:27.360 --> 01:26:28.290
T'Shailyn Harrington: So I just I.
906
01:26:28.320 --> 01:26:31.560
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): think that these are all extremely
important things I would love to be.
907
01:26:31.560 --> 01:26:37.110
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): On this committee, because this is other
than the Community school district.
908
01:26:37.140 --> 01:26:38.100
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): This is your.
909
01:26:38.550 --> 01:26:44.220
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): heart is at as far as helping make
positive change in iowa city and.
910
01:26:44.430 --> 01:26:48.000
T'Shailyn Harrington: You know, I do have a direct line to the new.
911
01:26:49.860 --> 01:26:51.180
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): police chief and we have a good.
912
01:26:51.480 --> 01:26:54.030
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): honest relationship where I can.
913
01:26:54.030 --> 01:26:55.530
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): say things and.
914
01:26:57.000 --> 01:27:07.860
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): None of us, neither of us would get take
offense to it, and we can have that very open dialect, which I appreciate
with him and I think that that's important so i'm going to yield to the
floor with that.
915
01:27:11.190 --> 01:27:11.550
T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you.
916
01:27:13.020 --> 01:27:13.470
T'Shailyn Harrington: Eric.
917
01:27:15.360 --> 01:27:17.400
Eric Harris: yeah I want to be on the.
918
01:27:18.270 --> 01:27:20.100
Eric Harris: restructure one as well um.
919
01:27:20.880 --> 01:27:21.870
Eric Harris: I don't just have.
920
01:27:22.560 --> 01:27:23.130
Eric Harris: Our respect.
921
01:27:23.250 --> 01:27:31.020
Eric Harris: You know that was a bad thing that happened on June 3, but I
have 20 plus years as a person was spans watching a broken law
enforcement system.
922
01:27:31.950 --> 01:27:42.030
Eric Harris: And that affected me personally that still affects me to
this day on i've spent time you know get my life cleaned up from the
cause and effect of.
923
01:27:42.060 --> 01:27:43.890
Eric Harris: going through a broken law enforcement system.
924
01:27:45.390 --> 01:27:55.290
Eric Harris: Especially especially you know is bad now, but in the 90s,
it was religious incarcerating people for no apparent reason and still
today things happen um.
925
01:27:55.980 --> 01:27:57.330
T'Shailyn Harrington: so good.
926
01:27:57.690 --> 01:27:58.500
Eric Harris: With that are you to flip.
927
01:28:06.750 --> 01:28:11.820
Raneem Hamad: This is renamed speaking i'm first of all i'd like to make
a motion to change the name of this.
928
01:28:11.850 --> 01:28:14.730
Raneem Hamad: committee of the subcommittee to be policing committee.
929
01:28:14.790 --> 01:28:15.750
And not just.
930
01:28:17.730 --> 01:28:27.210
Raneem Hamad: The whatever the name is right now, but she needs to the so
yeah I want to make it much, much easier to policing committee and also
would like to be in this.
931
01:28:27.600 --> 01:28:29.370
T'Shailyn Harrington: committee and then also again recommend.
932
01:28:29.370 --> 01:28:31.680
Raneem Hamad: That we don't have a chair and we just have.
933
01:28:31.710 --> 01:28:33.060
Raneem Hamad: collective action, and we all.
934
01:28:33.060 --> 01:28:35.070
Raneem Hamad: work as a group, and we don't.
935
01:28:35.100 --> 01:28:39.930
Raneem Hamad: Have hierarchical leadership within the Chair with the
within the subcommittee I mean.
936
01:28:41.850 --> 01:28:42.240
T'Shailyn Harrington: I agree, I.
937
01:28:42.420 --> 01:28:46.830
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): definitely agree and I would like to
second that motion if we can change that name and want us.
938
01:28:47.370 --> 01:28:48.060
to shop.
939
01:28:51.330 --> 01:28:56.220
T'Shailyn Harrington: I was gonna say there's no name associated with
this commit.
940
01:28:58.950 --> 01:29:02.970
T'Shailyn Harrington: To a subcommittee to review, so I mean.
941
01:29:04.470 --> 01:29:07.320
Raneem Hamad: I take that that motion and make a motion to name.
942
01:29:07.440 --> 01:29:08.340
To make a policing.
943
01:29:12.210 --> 01:29:13.620
T'Shailyn Harrington: Also, is the part that is not.
944
01:29:14.010 --> 01:29:18.630
Eric Harris: That is not a leader of it just everybody okay yeah.
945
01:29:20.820 --> 01:29:21.570
Mohamed Traore: i'd like a second.
946
01:29:24.450 --> 01:29:25.620
T'Shailyn Harrington: I think mill second.
947
01:29:27.990 --> 01:29:28.770
that's what I have.
948
01:29:31.440 --> 01:29:32.610
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Sorry.
949
01:29:34.620 --> 01:29:38.220
T'Shailyn Harrington: All right, um before before we go to vote.
950
01:29:39.240 --> 01:29:40.740
T'Shailyn Harrington: I do see a couple hands up.
951
01:29:41.790 --> 01:29:43.470
T'Shailyn Harrington: chair porter Mohammed.
952
01:29:45.150 --> 01:29:45.720
T'Shailyn Harrington: and
953
01:29:49.230 --> 01:29:49.590
reporter.
954
01:29:50.700 --> 01:29:51.780
T'Shailyn Harrington: Yes, I also would.
955
01:29:51.780 --> 01:29:54.210
Royceann Porter: like to add another committee, which will be housing.
956
01:29:54.570 --> 01:30:13.200
Royceann Porter: I think there should be a housing Committee, as well as
education committee with the school district, so I would suggest that we
add the housing committee Commission Subcommittee, as well as the school
district, with the education piece, and they don't just have to be.
957
01:30:13.410 --> 01:30:14.910
T'Shailyn Harrington: The city Community school district can.
958
01:30:14.940 --> 01:30:19.350
Royceann Porter: also be the University of iowa and kirkwood so just to
education piece.
959
01:30:20.400 --> 01:30:20.700
T'Shailyn Harrington: Okay.
960
01:30:22.800 --> 01:30:23.280
T'Shailyn Harrington: mama.
961
01:30:25.200 --> 01:30:31.680
Mohamed Traore: mama trailer here, I would like to echo the words of
share porter and also.
962
01:30:31.980 --> 01:30:35.970
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): emotion i'm sorry to interrupt was that
did share Puerto Rican making.
963
01:30:35.970 --> 01:30:37.740
Royceann Porter: emotion, yes.
964
01:30:38.220 --> 01:30:39.900
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Okay, and I second that motion.
965
01:30:39.990 --> 01:30:41.280
Jesse Case: or we'd have already met.
966
01:30:42.330 --> 01:30:42.660
Mohamed Traore: With.
967
01:30:42.720 --> 01:30:43.080
After.
968
01:30:45.180 --> 01:30:48.000
Jesse Case: I think I think we have two motions on the floor one.
969
01:30:48.000 --> 01:30:49.170
Mohamed Traore: Is a with speaking.
970
01:30:49.170 --> 01:30:49.590
After.
971
01:30:50.730 --> 01:30:52.980
Jesse Case: You create a police commit policing Commission.
972
01:30:53.760 --> 01:30:54.240
T'Shailyn Harrington: And then.
973
01:30:54.360 --> 01:30:55.470
Jesse Case: emotion, to create.
974
01:30:56.010 --> 01:30:59.220
Jesse Case: Really three motion maybe a housing Commission and in
education.
975
01:30:59.220 --> 01:31:00.480
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Commission yeah.
976
01:31:00.780 --> 01:31:05.370
Jesse Case: Budget, please, housing and education, now, these can all
change to you can.
977
01:31:05.370 --> 01:31:07.500
Jesse Case: abolish a Commission in a week, you can add another.
978
01:31:07.500 --> 01:31:07.800
Jesse Case: one.
979
01:31:07.830 --> 01:31:08.730
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): This is yeah.
980
01:31:08.970 --> 01:31:15.450
Jesse Case: we're just getting started so it's all fluid it's all you
know could solve changeable it's all you know we might bring.
981
01:31:15.600 --> 01:31:16.560
Jesse Case: In experts in real.
982
01:31:17.370 --> 01:31:18.240
Jesse Case: On the wrong path.
983
01:31:18.270 --> 01:31:20.250
Jesse Case: and have to regroup so I.
984
01:31:20.520 --> 01:31:20.820
Jesse Case: Think.
985
01:31:21.120 --> 01:31:24.360
Jesse Case: And I don't want you to share a job or a sans job either so
i'm just.
986
01:31:24.930 --> 01:31:25.740
T'Shailyn Harrington: Putting in here to.
987
01:31:25.770 --> 01:31:29.940
Jesse Case: Tell me to shut up anytime you want, but I think there's a
bunch of motion on the floor.
988
01:31:30.420 --> 01:31:31.860
T'Shailyn Harrington: In a second for.
989
01:31:31.920 --> 01:31:32.940
to form a police.
990
01:31:35.730 --> 01:31:37.230
T'Shailyn Harrington: Committee subcommittee.
991
01:31:38.040 --> 01:31:38.670
Jesse Case: And then.
992
01:31:38.820 --> 01:31:40.590
Jesse Case: And then, a housing subcommittee.
993
01:31:42.240 --> 01:31:44.670
T'Shailyn Harrington: Education education yeah.
994
01:31:45.720 --> 01:31:49.440
T'Shailyn Harrington: We will will vote on all three of those motions.
995
01:31:50.850 --> 01:31:53.280
T'Shailyn Harrington: But prior but just before we do that.
996
01:31:54.360 --> 01:31:56.790
T'Shailyn Harrington: Care porter do you have anything else to say and
then Muhammad.
997
01:31:57.450 --> 01:31:58.200
T'Shailyn Harrington: No i'm doing.
998
01:32:00.180 --> 01:32:01.230
T'Shailyn Harrington: chemo your hand, please.
999
01:32:06.030 --> 01:32:06.660
T'Shailyn Harrington: Mohammed.
1000
01:32:07.980 --> 01:32:15.420
Mohamed Traore: Muhammad trailer here, I just want to say that after i'm
done speaking out and also like to give all of the island and amelia
Roberts opportunity to speak before we go.
1001
01:32:16.020 --> 01:32:30.450
Mohamed Traore: Just in case they have anything that may be very helpful
for us to hear on this agenda item but a one also say that I do agree
with the thoughts of share porter Commissioner MOD and also Commissioner
Harris.
1002
01:32:30.900 --> 01:32:33.690
Mohamed Traore: Especially identify with what Commissioner said.
1003
01:32:34.200 --> 01:32:44.790
Mohamed Traore: In relation to the effects that law enforcement can have
on people and that when it comes to this aspect of policing and I just
want to state that I would also really like to.
1004
01:32:45.570 --> 01:32:51.690
Mohamed Traore: serve on that policing Commission, but if it ends up
being four people are more than I would be okay with education but.
1005
01:32:52.140 --> 01:32:59.760
Mohamed Traore: I would just like to offer my thoughts on that one
because I was someone that was born in brooklyn New York and when he
talks about a things in the 90s, yet.
1006
01:33:00.180 --> 01:33:06.060
Mohamed Traore: The main reason my family moved to iowa city was because
of how the 90s work in New York and.
1007
01:33:06.900 --> 01:33:12.570
Mohamed Traore: I just want to offer like so my perspectives on some of
the things I do remember from that and how.
1008
01:33:13.350 --> 01:33:20.460
Mohamed Traore: Our situations like that may affect the kids throughout
their lives there's other trauma from it is very lasting.
1009
01:33:21.090 --> 01:33:33.270
Mohamed Traore: To this day, i'm someone that feels so much more
comfortable when there's only a wall behind me, and nothing else, and
when i'm in a smaller room because that's just what I really remember
from when I lived in New York.
1010
01:33:34.410 --> 01:33:41.580
Mohamed Traore: Everything and just just having so much anxiety like in
being bigger groups of people from not really understanding what's around
me.
1011
01:33:42.210 --> 01:33:50.730
Mohamed Traore: And yeah I would just like to thank Commissioners for
bringing that up because it's just very important and I would like to
also say that I think it's also important that we.
1012
01:33:51.120 --> 01:33:59.460
Mohamed Traore: talk to people within the current Johnson county jail and
see and hear their thoughts on how the system works and hear from people
that have.
1013
01:34:00.180 --> 01:34:14.070
Mohamed Traore: gotten out of the system and clean their lives up and see
how exactly they did it and talk to people that are also in prison, have
been often the fort dodge area and hear about how they think that that is
affecting them and.
1014
01:34:14.940 --> 01:34:16.290
T'Shailyn Harrington: Maybe some of the grievances as.
1015
01:34:16.290 --> 01:34:18.570
Mohamed Traore: Well, to see if we can recommend some things to change.
1016
01:34:19.020 --> 01:34:19.650
Mohamed Traore: And with that I.
1017
01:34:20.970 --> 01:34:24.510
Eric Harris: think you would be the fourth person if that's the thing you
want to be so.
1018
01:34:25.020 --> 01:34:30.300
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): yeah you would yeah you'd be the fourth
it's Ali rename Harris and true story.
1019
01:34:36.360 --> 01:34:37.770
T'Shailyn Harrington: i'd like to get a.
1020
01:34:38.100 --> 01:34:39.300
Mohamed Traore: chance to speak, followed by.
1021
01:34:39.570 --> 01:34:40.050
amelia.
1022
01:34:50.970 --> 01:34:51.450
Oliver Weilein: Hello.
1023
01:34:52.530 --> 01:34:54.870
Oliver Weilein: My name is Oliver wireline I was a resident.
1024
01:34:56.400 --> 01:35:06.600
Oliver Weilein: board member of the iowa city tenants Union, I would just
like to say that I am excited about there being a housing subcommittee
and I would just like to say that.
1025
01:35:07.620 --> 01:35:11.460
Oliver Weilein: Personally, I think that it's not a secret that.
1026
01:35:12.990 --> 01:35:15.690
Oliver Weilein: tenants in iowa city have it really rough.
1027
01:35:16.950 --> 01:35:21.810
Oliver Weilein: People who are experiencing homelessness had a really
rough, so I would really like.
1028
01:35:23.820 --> 01:35:30.240
Oliver Weilein: To offer the subcommittee to participate, the iowa city
tenants Union to collaborate.
1029
01:35:31.380 --> 01:35:32.490
Oliver Weilein: into make it a space.
1030
01:35:33.960 --> 01:35:35.250
Oliver Weilein: That is free from.
1031
01:35:37.680 --> 01:35:46.440
Oliver Weilein: landlords in the people who are at the other end or at
the top of the power dynamic here and I was city and everywhere else you
know city has enough.
1032
01:35:48.180 --> 01:35:56.610
Oliver Weilein: To see has enough areas for landlords to come and talk in
the city panders to landlords, so I would really like a place for.
1033
01:35:59.460 --> 01:36:07.230
Oliver Weilein: I really have a place for the people who are actually
suffering under the landlords to have you know their voices heard so with
that.
1034
01:36:09.420 --> 01:36:13.020
Raneem Hamad: Thank you Oliver I agree with all the sentence T shirt for
sure.
1035
01:36:17.790 --> 01:36:18.390
T'Shailyn Harrington: amelia.
1036
01:36:25.110 --> 01:36:29.790
Emilia Roberts: hi I would just really like to second with all of our
side from good to great idea.
1037
01:36:29.940 --> 01:36:30.930
T'Shailyn Harrington: When I was pretending.
1038
01:36:30.960 --> 01:36:31.950
T'Shailyn Harrington: To run into things.
1039
01:36:32.310 --> 01:36:46.620
Emilia Roberts: And everything I just kind of want to make a suggestion
i'm not sure how many like committees are going to be doing, but I think
it would be a really good idea to have it like sustainability committee
or kind of like a committee centered around how.
1040
01:36:47.700 --> 01:36:52.920
Emilia Roberts: climate justice and because we truly can't have climate
justice without racial justice at all.
1041
01:36:53.580 --> 01:37:06.900
Emilia Roberts: that's not an option, so I think that's um I think to an
effect climate justice is a huge thing that a lot of people care about
here, and I have a city, so I think that would be a good idea, but yeah
Thank you.
1042
01:37:15.090 --> 01:37:17.010
Raneem Hamad: Joe did you want to speak.
1043
01:37:32.310 --> 01:37:32.790
Joe Coulter: Yes.
1044
01:37:34.230 --> 01:37:47.400
Joe Coulter: I think you may need or would be wise to take a look at the
Community police review Board and the recommendations that they have been
making.
1045
01:37:48.750 --> 01:37:54.090
Joe Coulter: that's a that's something maybe another little subcommittee
and.
1046
01:37:56.430 --> 01:37:57.270
T'Shailyn Harrington: Secondly.
1047
01:37:57.690 --> 01:37:58.260
I think.
1048
01:38:00.300 --> 01:38:15.600
Joe Coulter: To have a small group that would become knowledgeable about
the guide to link Center that the county has established here in iowa
city to look after people who.
1049
01:38:17.580 --> 01:38:22.470
Joe Coulter: Really don't need to be arrested and don't need to be sent
to the emergency room.
1050
01:38:22.920 --> 01:38:24.360
Joe Coulter: But have significant.
1051
01:38:24.960 --> 01:38:26.190
Joe Coulter: health issues.
1052
01:38:27.240 --> 01:38:27.600
Joe Coulter: and
1053
01:38:29.040 --> 01:38:29.880
Joe Coulter: I think.
1054
01:38:31.110 --> 01:38:36.540
Joe Coulter: Some guidance from the T RC would be invaluable.
1055
01:38:38.940 --> 01:38:40.110
Joe Coulter: Thank you so much.
1056
01:38:41.310 --> 01:38:42.240
T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you, thank you.
1057
01:38:44.850 --> 01:38:54.000
T'Shailyn Harrington: Mohammed and Ahmad will have you guys speak and
then after that I would like to do roll call, please um.
1058
01:38:54.120 --> 01:38:57.270
Raneem Hamad: So I just wanted this is running speaking, I just wanted to
add.
1059
01:38:57.780 --> 01:39:03.540
Raneem Hamad: also proposed healthcare committee policy, possibly because
there's a lot of stuff.
1060
01:39:03.540 --> 01:39:05.790
Raneem Hamad: Within the institution that is.
1061
01:39:05.850 --> 01:39:07.950
Raneem Hamad: You are a healthcare that can also possibly.
1062
01:39:07.950 --> 01:39:08.520
T'Shailyn Harrington: Be.
1063
01:39:08.790 --> 01:39:10.290
Raneem Hamad: of interest to this.
1064
01:39:10.650 --> 01:39:13.380
Raneem Hamad: Commission, so we don't do that today, but I just wanted to
put that idea.
1065
01:39:13.380 --> 01:39:14.220
Out there as well.
1066
01:39:19.440 --> 01:39:20.070
T'Shailyn Harrington: Just.
1067
01:39:20.130 --> 01:39:21.570
Mohamed Traore: like to say that I do think.
1068
01:39:21.990 --> 01:39:25.710
Mohamed Traore: We should also look at the sustainability committee is
i'm.
1069
01:39:26.190 --> 01:39:30.240
Mohamed Traore: i'm someone where I actually worked at the University of
iowa water plant for.
1070
01:39:30.450 --> 01:39:33.810
Mohamed Traore: Almost five years, and in my time there I.
1071
01:39:33.900 --> 01:39:35.820
T'Shailyn Harrington: saw a year after year as.
1072
01:39:35.910 --> 01:39:40.800
Mohamed Traore: I tested the water quality there, how it consistently
degraded and also watched.
1073
01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:50.970
Mohamed Traore: As when the last President got an office as an EPA
website literally changed and was completely different and all the
information taken off of there.
1074
01:39:51.360 --> 01:40:03.180
Mohamed Traore: And during the time of administration as well how the
Governor of this state repeatedly stifled efforts to improve water
regulations and other environments regulations, such as the situation
where.
1075
01:40:03.180 --> 01:40:03.960
Mohamed Traore: The wind.
1076
01:40:04.950 --> 01:40:16.920
Mohamed Traore: The wind waterworks was working to sue counties above
them for a runoff issues, and it was costing them so much money and
forcing them to charge citizens more for water and I don't think.
1077
01:40:17.460 --> 01:40:26.490
Mohamed Traore: So many citizens realize how profitable the water
industry can be and how they can be taken advantage of.
1078
01:40:26.490 --> 01:40:26.700
T'Shailyn Harrington: In.
1079
01:40:26.790 --> 01:40:27.600
T'Shailyn Harrington: The future if.
1080
01:40:27.780 --> 01:40:34.800
Mohamed Traore: Water the water quality continues to be great and I just
think if the sustainability is something we just have we need to focus
on.
1081
01:40:34.830 --> 01:40:36.090
T'Shailyn Harrington: Because it is not talked.
1082
01:40:36.090 --> 01:40:40.890
Mohamed Traore: About nearly enough and there's so much building going on
in the city in areas that are.
1083
01:40:41.100 --> 01:40:43.950
Mohamed Traore: floodplains and known to be floodplains.
1084
01:40:44.400 --> 01:40:48.810
Mohamed Traore: And people are just not aware of these things and it's
just really sad to see.
1085
01:40:49.920 --> 01:41:06.360
Mohamed Traore: I remember one of my professors frank wire talking about
how he repeatedly went into Council meetings to talk about things such as
this and Congress got shot down sometimes and, finally, he was hard on
some of these issues, but yeah I would I would really agree with.
1086
01:41:07.260 --> 01:41:08.670
T'Shailyn Harrington: Some people in the public eye set on.
1087
01:41:08.670 --> 01:41:12.450
Mohamed Traore: That, and I think we should talk about it, the next
meeting was that are you before.
1088
01:41:15.180 --> 01:41:24.870
T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you everyone for their comments i'm stephanie
Allah wants to take a role on all though, I think the best thing to.
1089
01:41:24.870 --> 01:41:37.890
Stefanie Bowers: do here is because you had a few different motions, you
had the original motion by Commissioner have MOD that was seconded by
Commissioner of the on establishing a policing committee that would not
have a chair and.
1090
01:41:37.890 --> 01:41:39.090
Stefanie Bowers: That, Commissioner, Hammad would.
1091
01:41:39.090 --> 01:41:50.700
Stefanie Bowers: serve on that committee and then the the other motion
that I have noted was made by chair porter on creating a housing
subcommittee and education stuff committee in that motion.
1092
01:41:50.700 --> 01:41:52.350
Stefanie Bowers: Was seconded by.
1093
01:41:52.380 --> 01:41:58.890
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner tree already, so I think those should be
considered separately and not as one group yeah.
1094
01:42:00.780 --> 01:42:01.080
yeah.
1095
01:42:02.310 --> 01:42:03.540
T'Shailyn Harrington: Just do.
1096
01:42:04.080 --> 01:42:05.190
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Just stephanie have.
1097
01:42:05.250 --> 01:42:10.320
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): The pete the other people were in down
for the policing committee because that.
1098
01:42:10.350 --> 01:42:14.790
Stefanie Bowers: That wasn't in the motion that Commissioner mountain
Bade that was seconded.
1099
01:42:18.300 --> 01:42:20.070
T'Shailyn Harrington: So let's take role on.
1100
01:42:21.930 --> 01:42:24.720
T'Shailyn Harrington: The creation of a policing subcommittee.
1101
01:42:27.690 --> 01:42:30.180
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner Ali yes.
1102
01:42:32.460 --> 01:42:33.270
Commissioner current.
1103
01:42:34.320 --> 01:42:35.310
Commissioner Tony Currin: Yes.
1104
01:42:37.230 --> 01:42:38.820
Commissioner Navarro Jackson.
1105
01:42:39.840 --> 01:42:40.650
T'Shailyn Harrington: Yes.
1106
01:42:42.660 --> 01:42:44.550
T'Shailyn Harrington: Care porter yes.
1107
01:42:47.100 --> 01:42:49.560
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner, Hamas yes.
1108
01:42:52.410 --> 01:42:55.080
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner Harry yes.
1109
01:42:56.640 --> 01:42:58.860
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner Reebok Rivera.
1110
01:42:59.400 --> 01:42:59.850
Yes.
1111
01:43:01.800 --> 01:43:02.880
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner trey lori.
1112
01:43:03.450 --> 01:43:03.870
Yes.
1113
01:43:05.760 --> 01:43:09.270
T'Shailyn Harrington: Definitely, you can also include me as a yes as
well.
1114
01:43:10.050 --> 01:43:10.710
T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you.
1115
01:43:14.280 --> 01:43:22.170
T'Shailyn Harrington: So next our architect role on chair porter's
motion, and that was as a reminder.
1116
01:43:23.190 --> 01:43:31.680
T'Shailyn Harrington: To do do a subcommittee on housing, as well as a
subcommittee on education, yes.
1117
01:43:35.370 --> 01:43:35.820
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner.
1118
01:43:39.870 --> 01:43:40.320
Commissioner.
1119
01:43:44.970 --> 01:43:46.410
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner Navarro Jackson.
1120
01:43:47.370 --> 01:43:47.970
Yes.
1121
01:43:49.500 --> 01:43:51.360
T'Shailyn Harrington: Care porter yes.
1122
01:43:53.760 --> 01:43:54.180
Commissioner.
1123
01:43:56.010 --> 01:43:57.120
T'Shailyn Harrington: Yes.
1124
01:43:59.430 --> 01:44:01.440
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner Harris, yes.
1125
01:44:03.390 --> 01:44:05.550
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner Rivera yes.
1126
01:44:08.130 --> 01:44:09.060
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner Troy.
1127
01:44:10.350 --> 01:44:10.710
Mohamed Traore: Yes.
1128
01:44:12.750 --> 01:44:17.340
T'Shailyn Harrington: stephanie you can also include me yes Okay, thank
you.
1129
01:44:17.460 --> 01:44:17.820
T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you.
1130
01:44:20.760 --> 01:44:22.290
T'Shailyn Harrington: And we're those all the motions.
1131
01:44:25.980 --> 01:44:26.310
Definitely.
1132
01:44:30.780 --> 01:44:33.570
Stefanie Bowers: Yes, those are the ones that I had had noted.
1133
01:44:34.890 --> 01:44:37.110
T'Shailyn Harrington: Okay, I heard there was discussion of.
1134
01:44:37.110 --> 01:44:42.150
Stefanie Bowers: Creating a sustainability committee, but I mean it was
just discussed I don't have it being.
1135
01:44:42.960 --> 01:44:53.340
Mohamed Traore: True or here, I was, I was just saying that I think we
should think about discussing it, but I would, I would just like to
formally make an agenda request for that by emailing.
1136
01:44:53.550 --> 01:44:54.720
T'Shailyn Harrington: Staff after this meeting.
1137
01:44:56.490 --> 01:44:57.090
Eric Harris: I appreciate.
1138
01:44:57.480 --> 01:44:58.920
T'Shailyn Harrington: I appreciate it, thank you.
1139
01:45:01.110 --> 01:45:05.130
T'Shailyn Harrington: Now, moving on to the next item on the agenda.
1140
01:45:06.690 --> 01:45:09.720
T'Shailyn Harrington: agenda item number nine is the.
1141
01:45:11.850 --> 01:45:12.930
T'Shailyn Harrington: sorry to interrupt you.
1142
01:45:13.500 --> 01:45:14.460
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): And it was wondering if.
1143
01:45:14.850 --> 01:45:17.670
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): We were going to discuss who would be.
1144
01:45:18.180 --> 01:45:22.410
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): On those Commissioners who voted on
her subcommittees.
1145
01:45:22.470 --> 01:45:23.460
T'Shailyn Harrington: you're right at.
1146
01:45:23.970 --> 01:45:24.900
Eric Harris: School in the House.
1147
01:45:26.940 --> 01:45:37.440
T'Shailyn Harrington: I thought I knew everybody was on board, for the
first one, the first totally missed that yeah let's have a who would like
to volunteer for.
1148
01:45:38.490 --> 01:45:46.560
T'Shailyn Harrington: This one or multiple of the three proposed or newly
formed Commission subcommittee i'm sorry.
1149
01:45:47.580 --> 01:45:48.780
T'Shailyn Harrington: I let's start with.
1150
01:45:50.460 --> 01:45:53.700
T'Shailyn Harrington: we've been talking about so much somebody refresh
my memory.
1151
01:45:56.460 --> 01:46:01.200
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): housing and education, were the two that
I was looking at.
1152
01:46:03.180 --> 01:46:04.680
T'Shailyn Harrington: I just I wanted to.
1153
01:46:05.160 --> 01:46:12.660
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Is it Okay, if I say something about
education before we go ahead and start talking about it or suggesting, to
be honest, that okay.
1154
01:46:13.890 --> 01:46:16.230
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): something brief yes yeah yeah.
1155
01:46:18.090 --> 01:46:37.650
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): No, I just I never really good contact
that's working with the University of iowa sociology department and
they're working with the DPP and with the district on like a lot of their
equity stuff there's a lot of really, really good statistics and data
that.
1156
01:46:38.070 --> 01:46:38.850
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): got in.
1157
01:46:39.270 --> 01:46:42.330
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): For the 2019 2020 school year.
1158
01:46:43.470 --> 01:46:45.120
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): And i'll send you a course on.
1159
01:46:45.150 --> 01:46:47.070
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): In email, but I think that if.
1160
01:46:47.130 --> 01:46:48.570
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Education is something that we do.
1161
01:46:48.570 --> 01:46:49.800
T'Shailyn Harrington: want to focus on which makes me.
1162
01:46:49.800 --> 01:46:58.980
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): extremely happy because growing up in
the I was to the Community school districts there's a lot that I would
love to change about it, and I think that it's important that.
1163
01:46:59.640 --> 01:47:10.710
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): We might want to have her present on
some of the research that she is doing, because some of the research is
very, very like it would probably be hard.
1164
01:47:10.740 --> 01:47:11.820
T'Shailyn Harrington: To like.
1165
01:47:12.270 --> 01:47:13.080
T'Shailyn Harrington: know this, the like.
1166
01:47:13.140 --> 01:47:23.910
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): iowa is I will city Community school
district is one of the worst in the state of iowa as far as racial
disparities go and I think that that's really important, and she has a
lot of knowledge and.
1167
01:47:24.960 --> 01:47:25.500
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): So.
1168
01:47:25.530 --> 01:47:27.420
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): i'll probably bring that up in an email,
but I think.
1169
01:47:27.420 --> 01:47:36.840
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): it's good that we hear from people who
are already doing that research for our Community and use the stuff that
they've already gotten and done in the.
1170
01:47:36.840 --> 01:47:37.860
T'Shailyn Harrington: Work that they've done.
1171
01:47:38.790 --> 01:47:41.370
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): To help us with our process moving
forward.
1172
01:47:45.090 --> 01:47:46.440
T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you for your brief comment.
1173
01:47:55.680 --> 01:47:56.580
Royceann Porter: yeah, I would like to say.
1174
01:48:01.980 --> 01:48:04.200
T'Shailyn Harrington: Well, we have, as well as Tony.
1175
01:48:08.010 --> 01:48:09.150
Commissioner Tony Currin: I would like to volunteer.
1176
01:48:13.230 --> 01:48:13.950
T'Shailyn Harrington: And so we have.
1177
01:48:15.840 --> 01:48:19.530
T'Shailyn Harrington: To not create a form we have two more available.
1178
01:48:21.600 --> 01:48:27.900
T'Shailyn Harrington: seats, I guess, are there are two other individuals
that are interested on the housing.
1179
01:48:29.040 --> 01:48:29.580
T'Shailyn Harrington: subcommittee.
1180
01:48:30.870 --> 01:48:31.800
there's three right.
1181
01:48:33.420 --> 01:48:34.470
Eric Harris: Now it's just one song.
1182
01:48:35.220 --> 01:48:35.580
Oh would.
1183
01:48:36.930 --> 01:48:37.770
Eric Harris: Be number three which.
1184
01:48:38.550 --> 01:48:38.910
Okay.
1185
01:48:40.950 --> 01:48:41.850
Eric Harris: cuz I got the.
1186
01:48:42.060 --> 01:48:44.430
Eric Harris: Because I got the inside out contacts plus you know.
1187
01:48:44.850 --> 01:48:45.600
Eric Harris: I came from.
1188
01:48:46.560 --> 01:48:50.910
Eric Harris: You know, dealing with crazy landlords that forced me to buy
a house, so I could definitely.
1189
01:48:51.600 --> 01:48:52.770
T'Shailyn Harrington: Definitely know a lot of stuff.
1190
01:48:54.150 --> 01:48:55.020
Commissioner Tony Currin: In a trailer court.
1191
01:49:00.960 --> 01:49:03.600
T'Shailyn Harrington: Alright, so that if.
1192
01:49:05.070 --> 01:49:11.820
T'Shailyn Harrington: If i'm counting correctly, this will be a
subcommittee that will have three individual serve on it right.
1193
01:49:13.980 --> 01:49:21.210
T'Shailyn Harrington: We can always add more there's no is what is a lie
fluid Subcommittee, we can always add more.
1194
01:49:22.410 --> 01:49:23.880
T'Shailyn Harrington: or one more I guess.
1195
01:49:24.930 --> 01:49:28.980
T'Shailyn Harrington: Okay, a male other brief comments you got.
1196
01:49:30.810 --> 01:49:32.700
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): me no No, sorry I didn't.
1197
01:49:34.830 --> 01:49:36.150
T'Shailyn Harrington: know that sorry.
1198
01:49:38.160 --> 01:49:39.660
T'Shailyn Harrington: lot of good okay.
1199
01:49:41.340 --> 01:49:41.820
T'Shailyn Harrington: chair for.
1200
01:49:45.570 --> 01:49:46.860
T'Shailyn Harrington: her hands raised or.
1201
01:49:49.440 --> 01:49:50.100
Commissioner Tony Currin: Service was.
1202
01:49:50.640 --> 01:49:51.420
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): There it went by.
1203
01:49:52.050 --> 01:49:56.640
T'Shailyn Harrington: Just know okay sounds good Okay, so we have.
1204
01:49:58.050 --> 01:49:58.800
T'Shailyn Harrington: The housing.
1205
01:49:59.910 --> 01:50:03.690
T'Shailyn Harrington: subcommittee form now I believe it's education.
1206
01:50:06.180 --> 01:50:07.470
T'Shailyn Harrington: yeah, I would like to.
1207
01:50:07.740 --> 01:50:09.540
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I would like to be on the education.
1208
01:50:10.320 --> 01:50:12.060
T'Shailyn Harrington: Committee is now if.
1209
01:50:12.090 --> 01:50:15.240
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): We still need to find out more about
education i'm.
1210
01:50:15.240 --> 01:50:16.650
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Totally fine with.
1211
01:50:18.480 --> 01:50:31.620
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): asking if my contact would be willing to
come speak to us on the research that she has done that way we don't have
to like jump into every you know jumping on this before we know all the
facts, just because.
1212
01:50:32.340 --> 01:50:40.230
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I don't want to put too many
subcommittees and every in our you know thing to deal with today, just in
case so.
1213
01:50:41.250 --> 01:50:44.640
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): But if anyone else is super passionate
about education, I guess.
1214
01:50:47.520 --> 01:50:49.230
T'Shailyn Harrington: Commissioner JESSICA.
1215
01:50:51.720 --> 01:50:54.180
Commissioner Navarre-Jackson: i'd like to also be on that committee.
1216
01:50:54.390 --> 01:50:57.540
T'Shailyn Harrington: On that subcommittee yay.
1217
01:50:58.980 --> 01:50:59.880
T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you, so we have.
1218
01:51:01.260 --> 01:51:05.760
T'Shailyn Harrington: I think it may be best to also Tony are you also
interested.
1219
01:51:06.330 --> 01:51:07.320
Commissioner Tony Currin: Or you gonna say.
1220
01:51:10.770 --> 01:51:13.260
Commissioner Tony Currin: You said you think you would maybe best what
were you gonna say.
1221
01:51:14.670 --> 01:51:16.830
T'Shailyn Harrington: I have three as opposed to just two.
1222
01:51:17.940 --> 01:51:22.110
T'Shailyn Harrington: individuals on the subcommittee So do I have
another volunteer.
1223
01:51:23.640 --> 01:51:24.330
T'Shailyn Harrington: to join.
1224
01:51:26.700 --> 01:51:29.850
T'Shailyn Harrington: So Tony you want to join me woe.
1225
01:51:30.240 --> 01:51:30.810
Is.
1226
01:51:33.180 --> 01:51:39.360
Commissioner Tony Currin: me, you know little crazy, but I can still work
on education, slow slow.
1227
01:51:40.530 --> 01:51:41.310
Commissioner Tony Currin: I can tell you.
1228
01:51:44.760 --> 01:51:50.130
T'Shailyn Harrington: Okay, thank you, I believe that we have volunteers
and Members for.
1229
01:51:53.790 --> 01:51:54.090
T'Shailyn Harrington: me.
1230
01:51:55.140 --> 01:52:03.030
T'Shailyn Harrington: that's great great job guys really proud of us,
just as I can you hear me right, I.
1231
01:52:03.810 --> 01:52:05.190
Jesse Case: Take my I don't know how to.
1232
01:52:05.610 --> 01:52:07.620
T'Shailyn Harrington: kind of came around with the way my screens
looking.
1233
01:52:07.620 --> 01:52:13.560
Jesse Case: Right now, because we're sharing the screen, but just as a
word of caution, these, we have a lot of moving parts now.
1234
01:52:15.180 --> 01:52:16.500
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): And let me see if I can.
1235
01:52:17.160 --> 01:52:19.740
Jesse Case: And these, and we have a lot of committees.
1236
01:52:19.800 --> 01:52:21.420
Jesse Case: And a lot of activity that's.
1237
01:52:21.480 --> 01:52:22.290
Jesse Case: That needs to be done.
1238
01:52:22.560 --> 01:52:33.780
Jesse Case: it's not all going to move, you know, at the same speed it's
not all by the time we have the next meeting, there might there may be
some reports from some committees or maybe some committees that haven't.
1239
01:52:34.590 --> 01:52:49.260
Jesse Case: met, yet there may be different levels of whatever but, but
the the what I see a lot is is you know if you know momentum if if people
feel like committees have lost momentum it's okay.
1240
01:52:49.950 --> 01:52:57.420
Jesse Case: Sometimes you're going to have momentum and sometimes your
committees, not because you're waiting on information or people are busy
and don't have time to me so just.
1241
01:52:57.960 --> 01:53:10.710
Jesse Case: You know just realize that not everything is going to move at
the same speed and some things will be dormant until we come alive again
so just it can be very frustrating process so just know that mine.
1242
01:53:14.370 --> 01:53:14.850
T'Shailyn Harrington: alright.
1243
01:53:15.900 --> 01:53:16.680
i've been Joe has.
1244
01:53:20.250 --> 01:53:20.550
T'Shailyn Harrington: yeah.
1245
01:53:22.440 --> 01:53:22.920
he's muted.
1246
01:53:24.030 --> 01:53:24.600
T'Shailyn Harrington: you're muted.
1247
01:53:32.670 --> 01:53:33.150
There you go.
1248
01:53:35.610 --> 01:53:37.680
Joe Coulter: We have two other areas.
1249
01:53:38.160 --> 01:53:39.390
Joe Coulter: That you could cover.
1250
01:53:40.470 --> 01:53:43.230
Joe Coulter: In your in your review.
1251
01:53:43.530 --> 01:53:44.700
Joe Coulter: That, I think are important.
1252
01:53:45.540 --> 01:53:46.290
T'Shailyn Harrington: How about.
1253
01:53:46.320 --> 01:53:47.160
A committee.
1254
01:53:48.870 --> 01:53:58.080
Joe Coulter: needs only 343 or four people on no more than four of the
Community police review board.
1255
01:54:00.240 --> 01:54:01.320
that's important.
1256
01:54:03.360 --> 01:54:07.740
Joe Coulter: what's going on at the guide the link Center.
1257
01:54:10.290 --> 01:54:13.710
Joe Coulter: Those are important issues in our Community.
1258
01:54:14.430 --> 01:54:19.200
Joe Coulter: And I think the PRC should be involved in these.
1259
01:54:21.480 --> 01:54:23.100
Joe Coulter: I think there's a lot of times like.
1260
01:54:23.700 --> 01:54:38.400
Jesse Case: We gotta walk before we crawl there, I would say after these
committees, you might add 10 more committees, as some of these wind down
or wind up I don't know, so I think just because you haven't talked about
it tonight doesn't mean you're not necessarily going to.
1261
01:54:38.400 --> 01:54:40.290
T'Shailyn Harrington: address it later it's just.
1262
01:54:40.320 --> 01:54:57.750
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): yeah I kind of wanted to um he Joe had
mentioned a couple of times reaching out to these other committees and I
had spoken earlier about the outside work that I had been doing in
regards to the restructuring of the police department.
1263
01:54:58.950 --> 01:55:14.730
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Just just so I can be more give Joe a
little bit more clarification I actually have had discussions with people
in the cpr be along with Council members like going through and
discussing.
1264
01:55:14.790 --> 01:55:17.160
T'Shailyn Harrington: Every single point.
1265
01:55:17.430 --> 01:55:19.200
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): and using the Council member, not as.
1266
01:55:19.200 --> 01:55:22.500
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Someone as a Council member, but just
someone that can like.
1267
01:55:22.950 --> 01:55:31.680
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Explain more of what each actual point
meetings, and I do plan on having more of those conversations.
1268
01:55:31.920 --> 01:55:35.400
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): And I do plan to look at this cpr bees.
1269
01:55:36.360 --> 01:55:47.220
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Proposals or recommendations to the City
Council I was just told that there are certain recommendations by law
that they cannot.
1270
01:55:48.060 --> 01:55:57.480
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Act on and there's certain
recommendations that the city would be able to act on and so i'm just
waiting for the city to kind of either the cpr be or the city give.
1271
01:55:57.510 --> 01:55:59.820
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): me Okay, on which of those.
1272
01:56:00.060 --> 01:56:02.370
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): laws or recommendations that they're
going.
1273
01:56:02.370 --> 01:56:08.640
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): To go forward with it's not that we
aren't communicating with them it's just there's a lot of different.
1274
01:56:09.420 --> 01:56:10.860
T'Shailyn Harrington: Processes of their.
1275
01:56:11.160 --> 01:56:14.430
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): of how they go about their
recommendations and what we're allowed.
1276
01:56:15.060 --> 01:56:16.470
T'Shailyn Harrington: In as far as that goes.
1277
01:56:16.680 --> 01:56:22.680
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): So I hope that was just a little bit of
an explanation or clarification for that aspect of things.
1278
01:56:24.840 --> 01:56:31.290
T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you everyone for your comments on the agenda
item we will be moving down to agenda item number nine.
1279
01:56:32.340 --> 01:56:38.700
T'Shailyn Harrington: This is discussion of creation of bylaws and a
process for mission members to follow during meetings.
1280
01:56:40.110 --> 01:56:52.500
T'Shailyn Harrington: Before Commission members district and Jesse bleed
this conversation I would like to open it to the public and also try to
get into the habit of.
1281
01:56:54.150 --> 01:57:01.170
T'Shailyn Harrington: Having the public comment prior to us having a
discussion if that would please work.
1282
01:57:02.490 --> 01:57:06.120
T'Shailyn Harrington: So, if anyone in the public interested in.
1283
01:57:07.290 --> 01:57:08.490
T'Shailyn Harrington: commenting on this.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: agenda item.
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01:57:14.220 --> 01:57:15.300
T'Shailyn Harrington: I see no hands raised.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: All right.
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01:57:18.450 --> 01:57:20.790
T'Shailyn Harrington: Jesse, I would like to pass it along to you.
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01:57:24.930 --> 01:57:25.290
Jesse Case: Sorry.
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01:57:25.590 --> 01:57:25.980
Joe.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: If you would unmute yourself.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Go you can unmute yourself.
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01:57:48.600 --> 01:57:50.160
Joe Coulter: yeah it's kind of a complicated.
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01:57:50.160 --> 01:57:54.240
Joe Coulter: process, I wanted to compliment the Commission.
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01:57:55.110 --> 01:57:57.300
Joe Coulter: for their work and.
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01:57:58.470 --> 01:58:02.760
Joe Coulter: and say that I think they are moving forward now.
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01:58:04.800 --> 01:58:08.550
Joe Coulter: Making progress, I think you're having.
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01:58:09.660 --> 01:58:16.890
Joe Coulter: The smaller groups who can go out and work with the
Community and and.
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01:58:17.040 --> 01:58:17.370
Joe Coulter: and
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01:58:18.240 --> 01:58:24.120
Joe Coulter: collect information are important what's the whole
Commission really can't do.
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01:58:26.670 --> 01:58:27.150
Joe Coulter: and
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01:58:27.390 --> 01:58:29.310
Joe Coulter: getting more community.
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01:58:29.310 --> 01:58:29.880
Joe Coulter: input.
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01:58:30.270 --> 01:58:31.170
Joe Coulter: is important.
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01:58:31.620 --> 01:58:32.730
Very important.
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Joe Coulter: And I.
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01:58:35.790 --> 01:58:37.170
Joe Coulter: congratulate.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: The.
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01:58:38.880 --> 01:58:40.050
T'Shailyn Harrington: The teen RC.
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01:58:40.710 --> 01:58:41.130
Joe Coulter: For the.
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01:58:41.160 --> 01:58:42.660
Joe Coulter: Work that you're doing.
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01:58:43.050 --> 01:58:49.410
Joe Coulter: And now it looks like you are really moving forward.
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Joe Coulter: Thank you.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Miss angie Jordan.
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01:59:05.340 --> 01:59:06.270
T'Shailyn Harrington: Can you guys hear me.
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We can.
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Angelina Rae Jordan: Okay.
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01:59:09.540 --> 01:59:10.860
Angelina Rae Jordan: Just determine.
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Angelina Rae Jordan: That piece on i'm number nine, the creation of
bylaws and a process for Commission members to follow during meetings, I
just want to put it out there.
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01:59:21.930 --> 01:59:39.930
Angelina Rae Jordan: From Commission work on a city to parent teacher
organizations, I get very confused and I have to relearn things and
practice and practice, and I just want to just just share with you guys
that again from like the small grassroots level two organizations, it is
really helpful to have.
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01:59:39.960 --> 01:59:42.000
Angelina Rae Jordan: These in place, and also to know.
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01:59:42.000 --> 01:59:52.530
Angelina Rae Jordan: That you can make changes to them, so I just I just
want to put that out there, and second, what Joe said y'all are doing
awesome Keep it up man all around women and everybody okay.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Are there Thank you angie oh em.
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02:00:03.510 --> 02:00:06.480
T'Shailyn Harrington: You have your hand raised also and you put your
hand down.
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Em Domingues: hi everybody can you hear me.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Yes, perfect.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you.
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Em Domingues: um so just chiming in on the topic of bylaws my name is m
domingos I work at the university i'm actually coincidentally, the chair
of the bylaws committee for staff Council.
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Em Domingues: I just wanted to share very briefly that.
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Em Domingues: bylaws are very, very useful, but my piece of advice from
working.
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Em Domingues: With them closely, is that I would suggest not.
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02:00:35.430 --> 02:00:38.910
Em Domingues: being overly prescriptive, because these.
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Em Domingues: Are the.
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02:00:40.680 --> 02:00:48.930
Em Domingues: Really rules and regulations that guide how you operate,
you want to give yourself sufficient flexibility so that you're not
hemmed in by a decision you made early.
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Em Domingues: Lest you end up having to later revised.
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Em Domingues: Your major bite loss so that's all thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Are there any other members of the public who wish
to comment on this agenda item prior to the Commission mission urs
discussing it.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: enhance.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: know.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Jesse, I would like to have the conversation over
here just.
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Jesse Case: Briefly, and then back to the listeners is, I think this can
ended up on the agenda by accident, because stephanie thought we'd
referenced it last week and maybe we did, but then.
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02:01:38.310 --> 02:01:45.480
Jesse Case: If people ever heard a lot of people say we need violence,
and I think sorry I think it's good it's on here, because we need some
rules.
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02:01:46.950 --> 02:02:03.480
Jesse Case: And I think it is you know it becomes less important, the
more respectful we are, because if we're if we're doing business and
respecting each other's space and and that we have a little more time to
do it right, you know you can go slower and do it right, but I think some
of us here.
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02:02:03.510 --> 02:02:04.770
T'Shailyn Harrington: worked on by law, Commission.
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Jesse Case: committees together and.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: I.
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Jesse Case: I saw Charlie.
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02:02:07.320 --> 02:02:09.060
Jesse Case: use the money earlier, I think he was on.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: The bylaws committee with Center for.
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02:02:11.280 --> 02:02:15.180
Jesse Case: Justice years ago with me and maybe mozzi here and some other
people.
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02:02:16.110 --> 02:02:18.150
Jesse Case: We some of us have put together bylaws for.
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02:02:18.150 --> 02:02:19.620
Jesse Case: Several organizations, some of you.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: have also.
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Jesse Case: But I just.
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02:02:21.990 --> 02:02:31.980
Jesse Case: Did maybe expedite the process wondering if you'd like me to
bring back sample bylaws from different organizations that we could
review and then have a discussion.
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02:02:35.550 --> 02:02:40.620
Jesse Case: On you know, put it on the agenda of a future meeting and and
really kind of dig in on.
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02:02:40.710 --> 02:02:43.860
Jesse Case: On what's in bylaws and review what's in bylaws and if what.
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02:02:43.860 --> 02:02:51.690
Jesse Case: If you wanted me to bring you three or four samples, or if
anyone else has samples, you could send them and I could get them up to
every all the Commissioners.
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02:02:53.670 --> 02:02:56.220
Jesse Case: But however you want to proceed is it's just a suggestion.
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Jesse Case: Because if we had a.
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Jesse Case: conversation now that could.
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02:03:01.560 --> 02:03:05.040
Jesse Case: be a four hour conversation just fine too.
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02:03:06.480 --> 02:03:07.740
Eric Harris: yeah I agree, I.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: I personally think that having.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: Examples are like templates to work off of what
help us understand how we want to operate how we want to what structure
we want for our for ourselves, so thank you for that suggestion Jesse
cheer quarter.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: No.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: yeah.
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i'm.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: going to say.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): If jesse's going to be kind of doing
like the research on some bias beforehand and then sending them to us Is
this something that you.
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02:03:55.140 --> 02:03:57.120
T'Shailyn Harrington: would be able to send to us before next week's.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Meeting, so we can possibly like you
know just get like a little bit of a head start and be able to read them
and kind of.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): discuss among ourselves and just read
them and figure out what it is, is that kind of what you mean.
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02:04:12.480 --> 02:04:25.560
Jesse Case: I think that's it I would need an opinion, out of the city,
to see if i'm allowed to even to mail out or email out materials between
meetings I assume I am, but I also don't want to violate any states that
you yeah.
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02:04:25.740 --> 02:04:26.880
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): And if you find out that.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): You can.
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Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I would appreciate that going forward
just.
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02:04:30.630 --> 02:04:33.060
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): emailing stuff as you get it that way
you know.
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02:04:33.570 --> 02:04:38.100
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): i'm at you know when we have time to
look at it, we can that way it's not.
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02:04:38.100 --> 02:04:39.390
T'Shailyn Harrington: just looking at it for the first.
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02:04:39.390 --> 02:04:42.660
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Time at you know the meeting to
Thursdays from now.
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02:04:43.260 --> 02:04:45.330
Jesse Case: Somebody just brought up a good comment in the chat.
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02:04:45.360 --> 02:04:48.720
Jesse Case: About you're already some bylaw some commissions paid and
then.
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02:04:49.050 --> 02:04:55.170
Jesse Case: This one's a little tricky because it's my understanding that
ad hoc commissions for the city usually don't have bylaws only permanent.
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02:04:56.010 --> 02:05:08.070
Jesse Case: committees do, but if but it's I think bylaws are good, so we
can put it in those samples, are examples I can pull from city
commission's that already exists.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: yeah.
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Eleanor Dilkes: i'm Jesse in response to your question about sending out
you certainly can send out material to the group.
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Eleanor Dilkes: You probably want to make sure all the material is
included in the.
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02:05:19.620 --> 02:05:19.950
Eleanor Dilkes: In the.
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02:05:19.980 --> 02:05:21.330
Eleanor Dilkes: packet that goes out.
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02:05:21.570 --> 02:05:23.370
Eleanor Dilkes: To the public when you're going to talk about the.
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02:05:23.370 --> 02:05:29.850
Eleanor Dilkes: Item and then just you know the caution idea at the first
meeting about being.
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02:05:29.910 --> 02:05:32.760
Eleanor Dilkes: careful not to engage in discussion over those emails.
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02:05:33.360 --> 02:05:35.400
Eleanor Dilkes: and create a potential.
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open meetings violation.
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Jesse Case: So.
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Jesse Case: Try to be I don't reply all i'll send them out to something
and then and then this is a little off topic, and this may just show my
age, but I, you know I have this binder because everything's online.
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02:05:50.460 --> 02:05:51.660
Jesse Case: Right, but sometimes it's just.
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02:05:51.690 --> 02:05:53.760
T'Shailyn Harrington: easier if you're looking for examples to.
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02:05:54.450 --> 02:06:04.560
Jesse Case: buy start emailing you things, or if I start like the police
report, which is 245 pages so some people prefer it online some people
would rather have.
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T'Shailyn Harrington: You know paper copies to.
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02:06:08.220 --> 02:06:09.960
Jesse Case: highlight and things like that so just.
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02:06:11.100 --> 02:06:13.860
Jesse Case: Just know that this you know, by the time we get to have.
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02:06:13.890 --> 02:06:14.280
T'Shailyn Harrington: A lot of.
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02:06:14.640 --> 02:06:15.660
Jesse Case: A lot of paper and a lot of.
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02:06:15.690 --> 02:06:16.200
emails.
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Eleanor Dilkes: Jesse you might want to you might want to funnel that
information fruit through stephanie so that we know we've got one person
who knows what all the documentation as that's gone out, etc.
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02:06:29.310 --> 02:06:30.090
Jesse Case: I love that idea.
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02:06:34.890 --> 02:06:41.670
T'Shailyn Harrington: You all right, why I think this is, I think that's
a great plan Jesse collecting.
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02:06:42.870 --> 02:06:51.540
T'Shailyn Harrington: The examples for us and then us revealing outside
of the next meeting so, but this.
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02:06:52.020 --> 02:06:53.340
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): agenda item on the next.
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02:06:53.340 --> 02:06:55.320
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Meeting, so that we can discuss it.
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02:06:56.190 --> 02:06:57.840
T'Shailyn Harrington: Okay, yes, yes.
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02:06:59.040 --> 02:07:05.220
T'Shailyn Harrington: um, are there any other questions or comments from
Commissioners on this agenda topic.
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02:07:08.940 --> 02:07:14.850
T'Shailyn Harrington: Now okay sounds good um, the next item on the
agenda is.
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02:07:15.990 --> 02:07:18.810
T'Shailyn Harrington: A consideration of nope have a no confidence.
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02:07:20.070 --> 02:07:21.000
T'Shailyn Harrington: In new leadership.
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02:07:22.680 --> 02:07:23.250
T'Shailyn Harrington: And this was.
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02:07:24.660 --> 02:07:28.950
T'Shailyn Harrington: emotion made at our Monday special meeting.
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02:07:30.660 --> 02:07:33.360
T'Shailyn Harrington: And prior to.
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02:07:35.580 --> 02:07:49.350
T'Shailyn Harrington: conversations between the Commission about it, I
would like to open the floor to members of the public, and I want to
remind Commissioners that they're not to engage.
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02:07:50.730 --> 02:08:00.030
T'Shailyn Harrington: With the public in their comments and also would
like to remind members of the public to keep their comments.
1424
02:08:01.290 --> 02:08:02.520
T'Shailyn Harrington: Five minutes or less.
1425
02:08:04.020 --> 02:08:04.980
T'Shailyn Harrington: do I have any hands.
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02:08:11.520 --> 02:08:12.360
T'Shailyn Harrington: from the public.
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02:08:13.770 --> 02:08:17.880
Royceann Porter: No cuz literally I think before the public can respond,
they need to know.
1428
02:08:17.880 --> 02:08:19.200
Royceann Porter: What they responding to.
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02:08:25.140 --> 02:08:25.590
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Go.
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02:08:26.370 --> 02:08:28.140
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Is that Okay, that we do that.
1431
02:08:28.140 --> 02:08:30.780
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): And then maybe asked for the public's
response.
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02:08:31.140 --> 02:08:34.260
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): After we've kind of discussed what.
1433
02:08:35.490 --> 02:08:36.420
Jesse Case: The reason our.
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02:08:36.570 --> 02:08:37.770
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Agenda is, I think.
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02:08:39.030 --> 02:08:57.240
Jesse Case: Just doesn't it, this will be maybe the only thing I say on
this is this question got off to a very rocky start and there, there are
a lot of people who feel very disrespected and I think i'm really glad to
see work going I you know just meeting could have gone a couple.
1436
02:08:57.270 --> 02:08:58.920
Eric Harris: couple different ways tonight and I.
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02:08:59.130 --> 02:09:13.140
Jesse Case: Really appreciative of professionalism people brought we're
going to have disagreements we're going to have fights we're going to
have arguments we're going to but, at the end of the day, we have a
responsibility to move the mission of this Commission forward so I so.
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02:09:14.220 --> 02:09:24.060
Jesse Case: And then I, you know that just has to be space for everybody,
we have to remain respectful, even if we don't you do what you want, but
I recommend it to be more functional.
1439
02:09:24.510 --> 02:09:38.640
Jesse Case: If everyone remains respectful and not and then also just
keep in mind that this should be a beginning and not you know not we're
not, we need to move forward and we're doing a good job and the term
reconciliation is in.
1440
02:09:39.000 --> 02:09:40.320
T'Shailyn Harrington: The name of the Commission.
1441
02:09:40.560 --> 02:09:41.640
T'Shailyn Harrington: So if.
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02:09:42.810 --> 02:09:53.160
Jesse Case: So I would just ask people to keep it in mind if this is
going to be a new day people have to decide if this is going to be a new
day with this Commission and move forward or or not.
1443
02:09:53.250 --> 02:09:53.670
T'Shailyn Harrington: and
1444
02:09:53.880 --> 02:09:55.110
Jesse Case: I think this is a very good.
1445
02:09:56.820 --> 02:09:57.090
T'Shailyn Harrington: and
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02:09:58.140 --> 02:10:05.640
Jesse Case: I would just like to say that word reconciliation is
literally in the name of this Commission.
1447
02:10:08.790 --> 02:10:11.070
Mohamed Traore: This is Commissioner trailer your.
1448
02:10:11.160 --> 02:10:13.350
T'Shailyn Harrington: mom actually Mohammed.
1449
02:10:13.380 --> 02:10:16.560
Raneem Hamad: Sorry, to cut you off, but those hands up to.
1450
02:10:16.680 --> 02:10:22.800
T'Shailyn Harrington: Unless you wanted to have him speak before, yes, I
would like to have members of the public first.
1451
02:10:25.380 --> 02:10:29.730
T'Shailyn Harrington: Before we have the Commission Members speak so Joe
if you want them yourself.
1452
02:10:39.480 --> 02:10:45.450
Joe Coulter: yeah so thank you all, are doing a very good job, and I know
many of you.
1453
02:10:46.470 --> 02:10:54.780
Joe Coulter: And I know raleigh saying I think she's an excellent person
to lead the Commission.
1454
02:10:56.580 --> 02:10:58.080
T'Shailyn Harrington: is well acquainted.
1455
02:10:58.290 --> 02:11:13.680
Joe Coulter: With robert's rules of order if you wish, and all of the
protocol that goes along with keeping a meeting moving and doing their
work.
1456
02:11:14.700 --> 02:11:21.120
Joe Coulter: And, which I think in your case is extremely important, and
I think.
1457
02:11:22.350 --> 02:11:23.610
Joe Coulter: After this meeting.
1458
02:11:25.350 --> 02:11:30.450
Joe Coulter: I would say you're doing darn good so Keep it up.
1459
02:11:33.000 --> 02:11:33.390
Joe Coulter: Thank you.
1460
02:11:34.770 --> 02:11:35.370
Joe Coulter: Thank you, Joe.
1461
02:11:36.000 --> 02:11:40.500
T'Shailyn Harrington: I think I saw another member of the public's hand
go up but I.
1462
02:11:45.390 --> 02:11:45.930
T'Shailyn Harrington: leticia.
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02:11:49.560 --> 02:12:00.150
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: hi good evening i'm just going to take a few
minutes because I work third shift so so it's a privilege for anyone of
me working second and third shift actually attend this meeting, which is.
1464
02:12:00.390 --> 02:12:01.740
T'Shailyn Harrington: Also, a problem which we can.
1465
02:12:02.130 --> 02:12:03.420
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: Totally get into in another.
1466
02:12:03.510 --> 02:12:16.920
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: session but i'm part of the part of me, being a
third shift worker is knowing that all my roles of leadership and, as a
person of the Community, doing the leadership doing the activism that I
used to do.
1467
02:12:17.520 --> 02:12:19.110
T'Shailyn Harrington: I can, I can no longer do it.
1468
02:12:20.010 --> 02:12:24.000
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: So I had to grapple with the fact that you know.
1469
02:12:25.140 --> 02:12:28.980
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: What I was doing as a leader, I have to now
depend on other people.
1470
02:12:29.400 --> 02:12:31.740
T'Shailyn Harrington: That we have to read it redistribute power.
1471
02:12:32.160 --> 02:12:50.370
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: And that I can't be everywhere, for everything
and so and and I go by the model now it's like i'm just because I can
doesn't mean I should, and so, with this Commission we've gotten off to a
rocky start with actually two incidents where there were where it's
people doing.
1472
02:12:50.550 --> 02:12:51.810
T'Shailyn Harrington: Something because they can.
1473
02:12:52.260 --> 02:12:53.520
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: But not because they should.
1474
02:12:54.210 --> 02:12:56.610
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: Like example as far as with.
1475
02:12:56.910 --> 02:13:07.650
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: Mr case being the facilitator i'm he's doing a
great job I think and he's totally qualified to do this position, but
there should have been a thought in his mind about.
1476
02:13:08.760 --> 02:13:13.140
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: Just because I can doesn't doesn't mean I should
you know, should this job you going.
1477
02:13:13.140 --> 02:13:14.010
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: Someone who.
1478
02:13:14.040 --> 02:13:15.360
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: Is you know.
1479
02:13:15.720 --> 02:13:24.150
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: You know more from marginalized population
someone who you know, this is a stout, this is a salary job is one of the
first salary jobs for Commission.
1480
02:13:24.480 --> 02:13:31.410
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: just go to someone who comes from a marginalized
population, and that should have been a thought in his mind when when he
thought about applying.
1481
02:13:32.160 --> 02:13:39.240
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: So, and that was the first incident and so, and
now the second incident is with the leadership of race, and who is.
1482
02:13:40.230 --> 02:13:46.380
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: amazing person does has been in this Community
for over 30 years has been doing the work for over 30 years.
1483
02:13:46.980 --> 02:13:51.570
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: You know she has been doing the work a lot longer
than most of the people who are you know protesting now.
1484
02:13:52.170 --> 02:14:02.190
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: But the thing is, is that, just because she can
be a leader doesn't mean that that leadership should not be redistributed
to other people to do or people to fresher ideas to fresher people.
1485
02:14:02.760 --> 02:14:10.770
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: You know just be like I said just because you can
doesn't mean you should, and so I think when the Commission came up with
nominating her for chair.
1486
02:14:11.430 --> 02:14:18.600
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: If I was very sad, I would have thought you know
what i'm already evolved, a lot of things i'm already on the you know
board of supervisors.
1487
02:14:18.870 --> 02:14:31.890
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: i'm already a really vocal person in the
Community, and I should you know that you know step back from this
position, and maybe just redistribute the power to people who are not
very well known in the Community, people who don't have leadership.
1488
02:14:34.080 --> 02:14:39.960
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: roles already so I mean so that's my kind of
comment and just.
1489
02:14:41.160 --> 02:14:55.620
Latisha McDaniel-Grife: Opinions on what's going on with the Commission
now and just something to think about, for you know everyone, and
especially for people who you know who have been in leadership roles for
many, many years you know when should we step up and when, should we step
back and so thank you.
1490
02:14:57.750 --> 02:14:58.230
Thank you.
1491
02:14:59.790 --> 02:15:00.360
T'Shailyn Harrington: accountant.
1492
02:15:21.780 --> 02:15:22.830
T'Shailyn Harrington: Oh, you guys are muted.
1493
02:15:23.490 --> 02:15:24.060
T'Shailyn Harrington: I know you.
1494
02:15:24.150 --> 02:15:24.540
don't take.
1495
02:15:26.760 --> 02:15:27.450
T'Shailyn Harrington: yourself again.
1496
02:15:37.050 --> 02:15:38.490
Billie and Orville Townsend: Okay yeah okay.
1497
02:15:38.820 --> 02:15:42.090
Billie and Orville Townsend: yeah, I just wanted to say in terms of.
1498
02:15:42.390 --> 02:15:51.000
Billie and Orville Townsend: feel very strongly that if a public input
has any value, then I think it, it should have the option of speaking.
1499
02:15:51.690 --> 02:16:04.950
Billie and Orville Townsend: Before after but you know you arbitrarily
saying it public input will be asked, will be before and actually if it
has the value, then it should, I think she should be after.
1500
02:16:05.490 --> 02:16:15.510
Billie and Orville Townsend: All the facts and everything had been
presented, then, basically, you know if you have a feeling so bad about
it, that would be a time to present.
1501
02:16:21.720 --> 02:16:22.260
T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you.
1502
02:16:25.350 --> 02:16:25.920
T'Shailyn Harrington: amelia.
1503
02:16:30.240 --> 02:16:31.230
T'Shailyn Harrington: I see your hand is raised.
1504
02:16:39.630 --> 02:16:41.910
Emilia Roberts: Sorry, I would like to just.
1505
02:16:41.910 --> 02:16:46.410
Emilia Roberts: wholeheartedly just really, really second what leticia
just said.
1506
02:16:47.310 --> 02:16:48.960
T'Shailyn Harrington: I think that just gave myself.
1507
02:16:49.020 --> 02:16:50.100
Emilia Roberts: A lot of insight and.
1508
02:16:50.490 --> 02:16:52.290
Emilia Roberts: kind of just took the words right out of my mouth.
1509
02:16:53.850 --> 02:16:57.360
Emilia Roberts: yeah I would just really like to second what she has to
say and I also think that.
1510
02:16:57.390 --> 02:16:58.350
Emilia Roberts: there's to be comment.
1511
02:16:58.380 --> 02:17:03.930
Emilia Roberts: Probably before and after just kind of give everybody a
fair shot and whenever they want to talk.
1512
02:17:05.610 --> 02:17:11.010
Emilia Roberts: But yeah I really, really agree with kind of passing on
United mean.
1513
02:17:11.040 --> 02:17:12.540
T'Shailyn Harrington: kind of taking a step back for.
1514
02:17:13.530 --> 02:17:26.160
Emilia Roberts: younger people in the Community to kind of step up so not
only that they can learn and get opportunities in these leadership
positions so that can further the process of everything yeah that's all I
have to say.
1515
02:17:30.990 --> 02:17:35.400
T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you, and one more member of the public, I see
him.
1516
02:17:36.360 --> 02:17:37.830
lujayn h: yeah I was just wondering.
1517
02:17:37.860 --> 02:17:39.690
lujayn h: Are we, being limited to only.
1518
02:17:39.720 --> 02:17:42.000
lujayn h: Speaking before like we can't speak after.
1519
02:17:43.380 --> 02:17:44.670
lujayn h: I just wanted clarification.
1520
02:17:47.430 --> 02:17:49.350
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I think we could vote on it can't be.
1521
02:17:49.890 --> 02:17:53.400
lujayn h: Nice to you, I mean I feel like that would be a good idea, just
because.
1522
02:17:53.400 --> 02:17:56.880
lujayn h: Several members of the public have mentioned that they would
like to add.
1523
02:17:57.360 --> 02:17:59.580
T'Shailyn Harrington: comments or speak after.
1524
02:17:59.760 --> 02:18:00.690
lujayn h: or during or whatever.
1525
02:18:01.980 --> 02:18:17.940
Mohamed Traore: um what I remember from what miss Bowers told us in the
last few meetings, created the situation was that anyone from the
Commission can request public comment to be open back up after we speak
on the topic So yes, we can have a public speaker and after we discuss.
1526
02:18:19.830 --> 02:18:22.890
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): You yeah we're planning to do that for
the towns and.
1527
02:18:22.890 --> 02:18:24.510
Stefanie Bowers: So I think.
1528
02:18:24.570 --> 02:18:33.840
Stefanie Bowers: Just to clarify I think what i've said in the past that
majority of Commissioners agree to do that, so I just want to clarify
that so okay Okay, thank you.
1529
02:18:34.890 --> 02:18:35.430
Stefanie Bowers: Thanks john.
1530
02:18:36.540 --> 02:18:36.870
Thank you.
1531
02:18:38.850 --> 02:18:42.330
T'Shailyn Harrington: Are there any other members of the public that wish
to comment at this time.
1532
02:18:47.130 --> 02:18:47.460
T'Shailyn Harrington: Not.
1533
02:18:50.670 --> 02:18:56.430
T'Shailyn Harrington: Mohammed I do want to mention that resend had her
hand raised before I opened it up to the public.
1534
02:18:58.260 --> 02:19:03.870
T'Shailyn Harrington: Are you okay with allowing her to go first or would
you like to speak first or sandy have a preference no.
1535
02:19:04.530 --> 02:19:07.500
Royceann Porter: I didn't know my hand was still up i'ma removing I
needed to no.
1536
02:19:08.700 --> 02:19:10.830
T'Shailyn Harrington: No, no, your hands, not out but I.
1537
02:19:14.550 --> 02:19:20.250
T'Shailyn Harrington: Would you like to talk, or would you like Muhammad
no I want it, I want to listen to the Commission tell me what it is that
I did.
1538
02:19:20.250 --> 02:19:24.630
Royceann Porter: For that I don't even know what i'm being accused, so I
need to hear from the Commission.
1539
02:19:26.730 --> 02:19:27.300
T'Shailyn Harrington: Mohammed, please.
1540
02:19:28.740 --> 02:19:30.930
T'Shailyn Harrington: Okay, so or ronnie yeah.
1541
02:19:32.220 --> 02:19:33.690
T'Shailyn Harrington: This is mama trail here so.
1542
02:19:34.020 --> 02:19:40.830
Mohamed Traore: bear with me everyone, but a few things I need to address
prior to bringing up the allegations against you sure porter.
1543
02:19:41.490 --> 02:19:49.050
Mohamed Traore: But first and foremost I just like to say that they're
having meetings in the past, where this Commission has been in a bit of
disarray.
1544
02:19:49.470 --> 02:19:59.010
Mohamed Traore: And I once again like to apologize to the public for
that, and I would just like to note again how much how much more civil
This meeting has been.
1545
02:19:59.460 --> 02:20:13.860
Mohamed Traore: and point out just the difference in that our actual
chair has not really been chairing the meeting and that just kind of
seems a little odd of the first time that that happened that this meeting
has run so much more smoothly.
1546
02:20:14.160 --> 02:20:16.170
Mohamed Traore: And I just also want to say as well.
1547
02:20:16.500 --> 02:20:24.600
Mohamed Traore: That a few meetings ago when there was a bit of a back
and forth between the members of the Commission, specifically the Chair
being involved in that.
1548
02:20:25.230 --> 02:20:33.900
Mohamed Traore: It seemed that I mean myself is etiquette chair and
speaking about how we were all supposed to be respected, each other
talked about how.
1549
02:20:34.590 --> 02:20:43.200
Mohamed Traore: The temperature needed to come down, and I was yelled
over by the Chair and basically silenced, and that was very upsetting and
I feel like that set a bad precedent.
1550
02:20:44.340 --> 02:20:45.840
Mohamed Traore: There, it also been a situation.
1551
02:20:46.260 --> 02:20:57.270
Mohamed Traore: I had heard of in a city council meeting earlier in that
week where the current chair at Braden or remember the public for
something he had said and made him feel very uncomfortable.
1552
02:20:57.690 --> 02:21:02.340
Mohamed Traore: And just someone sitting here and knowing that this
supposed to be truth and reconciliation commission.
1553
02:21:02.790 --> 02:21:09.240
Mohamed Traore: And from the history that I know it'd be original Truth
and Reconciliation Commission I just don't think it's a proper
environment.
1554
02:21:09.690 --> 02:21:18.990
Mohamed Traore: To have something to have things like that just go and
check and I just want to bring up as well that the Chair in a meeting.
1555
02:21:19.860 --> 02:21:25.350
Mohamed Traore: felt the need to basically silence public towards the end
of a meeting and I asked to hear from the public.
1556
02:21:25.620 --> 02:21:33.750
Mohamed Traore: And there was a bit of a backlash at that and people on
the Commission scoffing and use that was very upsetting as well, because
I just don't think that.
1557
02:21:34.410 --> 02:21:41.610
Mohamed Traore: is the right thing to be doing, we need to be welcoming
the public in any way, shape or form if they don't like what we're doing
fine they can say so.
1558
02:21:41.880 --> 02:21:47.880
Mohamed Traore: If they do like what we're doing fine they can say so, at
the end of the day, what they say what they think matters.
1559
02:21:48.480 --> 02:21:58.230
Mohamed Traore: So then that's going to help us get closer to the best
solutions for the most amount of people there may be nine of us in this
Commission, but there are over 80,000 people that live in a city alone.
1560
02:21:59.610 --> 02:22:07.200
Mohamed Traore: So if we're going to be making these decisions that
affect all of these people need to make sure we actually listen to them
and we don't just sit here and think.
1561
02:22:07.530 --> 02:22:17.490
Mohamed Traore: That just because we are on this Commission everything
that we say ghosts and in, and then there was also some members of the
public in our meeting on Monday.
1562
02:22:18.570 --> 02:22:26.400
Mohamed Traore: That it seemed like they're basically threatening some of
us with some kind of information dumps or something like that and.
1563
02:22:28.170 --> 02:22:30.630
Mohamed Traore: I will just be very general about this to be careful,
but.
1564
02:22:32.340 --> 02:22:42.840
Mohamed Traore: I don't scare easily so if there's anything that you
would like to bring against myself or anyone else on this condition, but
especially against me go ahead on i'm ready for it.
1565
02:22:43.800 --> 02:22:55.050
Mohamed Traore: I I really have no fear, when it comes to that and i'm
not joking when I say that, if you would like to threaten me you you best
bring everything you've gotten better and for the edges.
1566
02:22:55.380 --> 02:22:56.460
i'm not going down.
1567
02:22:57.930 --> 02:23:07.350
Mohamed Traore: And when and thank you, whoever left there but i'm dead
serious um and I would also like to say that that was a very upsetting as
well to hear that.
1568
02:23:07.650 --> 02:23:16.170
Mohamed Traore: From people that are elders in this Community, because
there were also speaking about respecting people that are older than you
and that i've been there and done that well.
1569
02:23:16.620 --> 02:23:19.380
Mohamed Traore: At one time have I disrespected any of you.
1570
02:23:20.160 --> 02:23:32.430
Mohamed Traore: In fact, threatening me was very, very disrespectful, I
would like to say, and if you're all the ones that we should be learning
from, I would like to ask why did it take a youth led movement to get
this Commission started.
1571
02:23:33.030 --> 02:23:41.520
Mohamed Traore: Why is it that you many of you are alive for a lot of the
civil rights movements and things going on in the past year we're still
dealing with a lot of these problems and worse.
1572
02:23:41.850 --> 02:23:50.550
Mohamed Traore: Why is it that when I get on social media sites such as
Facebook I watch people's parents and grandparents fighting back and
forth and yelling at each other and.
1573
02:23:50.910 --> 02:23:58.770
Mohamed Traore: In unfriended each other, and it is just seems absolutely
ridiculous to me because we are one people in one country.
1574
02:23:59.640 --> 02:24:05.970
Mohamed Traore: And if we are going to come together, we need to continue
speaking to one another, and we need to continue trusting one another.
1575
02:24:06.810 --> 02:24:15.390
Mohamed Traore: And it is, it is not okay to act as if someone's voice
doesn't matter just because they vote a certain way, or just because they
believe in a certain thing or just because they.
1576
02:24:16.200 --> 02:24:22.830
Mohamed Traore: Vote for a certain party in this is these things have
been upsetting me for years I have been.
1577
02:24:23.310 --> 02:24:32.160
Mohamed Traore: A registered independent since 2015 I was 20 years old,
at the time, and as someone that's not supposed to know better, how is it
that I was able to see that far back.
1578
02:24:32.550 --> 02:24:42.660
Mohamed Traore: That we're at a time in this country, where we had become
so divided that people would start to hate each other, just because they
vote for a democrat, or just because they vote for republican.
1579
02:24:43.110 --> 02:24:50.370
Mohamed Traore: And I also just want to bring up the fact that, if we
want to keep talking about how wise elders are, why is it that we have
the oldest Congress in history.
1580
02:24:50.700 --> 02:25:02.040
Mohamed Traore: Where the average age of a house someone in the House of
Representatives and 58 the average age of a senator is 63 our President
is 78 a last President was 73 is that normal.
1581
02:25:02.460 --> 02:25:12.630
Mohamed Traore: And why is it that we have so many of these issues still
to this day, we are told to step aside because we're so young, and we
don't understand we are told that oh you.
1582
02:25:13.050 --> 02:25:26.760
Mohamed Traore: think you care and you think you know which you don't
really know what you're going to do, are you sure, because you haven't
given us the opportunity to truly show you continue to tell us to step
aside and let you show us the way when is it our turn.
1583
02:25:28.800 --> 02:25:37.410
Mohamed Traore: Are you, is it going to take till the day that the
current that the older generations dire retire, finally, that we finally
get our chances.
1584
02:25:37.890 --> 02:25:47.760
Mohamed Traore: The average age of a CEO right now is 5620 years ago, the
average age of the CEO was 36 what does that mean that the same
generation had all the same positions.
1585
02:25:48.690 --> 02:26:09.030
Mohamed Traore: Why why, why are we not getting our opportunity when we
are leading these movements and why is it that people are told to get
over things that was also something upsetting to me when it came to the
car situation downtown because my sister was also in that protest.
1586
02:26:10.590 --> 02:26:11.910
Mohamed Traore: When it comes to my family.
1587
02:26:13.740 --> 02:26:26.280
Mohamed Traore: I don't take things like that lightly don't don't say
just get over that that's been my sister that have been hidden affected,
I would have just blown up in this meeting, to be honest, if I were to
purchase get over it.
1588
02:26:27.780 --> 02:26:32.100
Royceann Porter: What you're what you're talking about when you say get
over it, what are you talking about please tell me.
1589
02:26:32.670 --> 02:26:45.000
Mohamed Traore: um there was a was a meeting, I believe it was the second
or third meeting when we talked about the situation where the individual
that I run his car through the protesters and it seemed as if i'm.
1590
02:26:46.080 --> 02:26:55.830
Mohamed Traore: yourself as long as some other older members of this
Commission were basically trying to get us past the point of you know,
the if our conversation and.
1591
02:26:56.310 --> 02:27:09.120
Mohamed Traore: The ire held for ifr I mean while you may not agree with
them once again this condition exists because of the work they did, and I
mean i'm a person, where I will call out a proxy or whatever it is.
1592
02:27:09.510 --> 02:27:10.470
Mohamed Traore: Wherever I see it.
1593
02:27:10.500 --> 02:27:23.280
Royceann Porter: You should and you should, but my point is I keep
hearing get over it, where where is it that when the car ran through the
the guy ran through the car literally where did you get I said get over
it.
1594
02:27:23.820 --> 02:27:30.090
Mohamed Traore: You might not have said it in this exact words but I mean
we can flip back to the meeting minutes mean at some point if you'd like
to I know.
1595
02:27:31.320 --> 02:27:35.820
Raneem Hamad: I can clarify this was said during a city council during
public comment.
1596
02:27:36.780 --> 02:27:39.450
Royceann Porter: And what did I say I said it to.
1597
02:27:39.510 --> 02:27:45.090
Raneem Hamad: Yes, you make comments that you can go back to the City
Council meeting Minutes that state that.
1598
02:27:46.530 --> 02:27:50.610
Raneem Hamad: Nicholson just put a comment in the chat saying I can speak
on it, so I will.
1599
02:27:50.850 --> 02:27:51.240
wow.
1600
02:27:52.410 --> 02:27:54.600
Raneem Hamad: invite him to speak so you can speak on it.
1601
02:27:54.720 --> 02:28:03.810
Mohamed Traore: off for now have up the floor to, and if the rest of the
Commissioners would, if anyone else would like to speak before Mr Tyson
does go ahead, but.
1602
02:28:04.170 --> 02:28:04.470
We can.
1603
02:28:05.730 --> 02:28:06.300
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): speak.
1604
02:28:12.900 --> 02:28:15.900
Mohamed Traore: All right, sorry Thank you Nicholas and.
1605
02:28:17.610 --> 02:28:24.390
Mohamed Traore: and leisure, but I would also just like to finish with
when it comes to these allegations, the person that.
1606
02:28:24.900 --> 02:28:32.190
Mohamed Traore: made the specific allegations against you, is in this
meeting tonight Okay, he is prepared to say what he has to say if needed.
1607
02:28:32.700 --> 02:28:39.090
Mohamed Traore: And personally, I would like to have it not come to that,
and I would have liked to have just come to you directly.
1608
02:28:39.540 --> 02:28:47.010
Mohamed Traore: But when we talk about things such as robert's rules, I
did read through them extensively and I took good notes on them, and I do
know that when it comes to.
1609
02:28:47.280 --> 02:28:55.050
Mohamed Traore: Private and personal information such as this, the
individual and question has to clear that information being released
prior to it being discussed.
1610
02:28:55.290 --> 02:29:06.690
Mohamed Traore: And I would have been under legal scrutiny, had I just
spoken to you about it just out of the blue, because you were the one
being accused in this situation, but if you would like to know what it
centers around it is once again.
1611
02:29:07.860 --> 02:29:15.270
Mohamed Traore: An environment of basically bullying people that would
like to speak up and speak their mind, and I mean you can scoff again if
you'd like but.
1612
02:29:15.330 --> 02:29:16.560
Royceann Porter: yeah because I need to.
1613
02:29:16.560 --> 02:29:18.510
Mohamed Traore: Like he doesn't have the phone record of it.
1614
02:29:18.720 --> 02:29:20.970
Mohamed Traore: And it's not like he didn't immediately talk about it.
1615
02:29:21.270 --> 02:29:22.500
Mohamed Traore: Okay, with that.
1616
02:29:22.770 --> 02:29:32.640
Royceann Porter: We need to hear it, because if i'm going to be accused
us after I got every right baby to sit here and tell you I know me, and I
know I know me and I haven't really I haven't believed anybody.
1617
02:29:34.770 --> 02:29:38.400
Mohamed Traore: Okay, with that oh you're the floor and allowing.
1618
02:29:39.900 --> 02:29:40.740
Mohamed Traore: Your chair.
1619
02:29:42.300 --> 02:29:46.920
Mohamed Traore: i'm you know Commissioner Ali or a modest speaker if they
would like to have a public go ahead, we can have.
1620
02:29:47.070 --> 02:29:50.370
Raneem Hamad: Yes, can we have Nicholas please Nicholas do you can you
share.
1621
02:29:53.310 --> 02:29:53.670
Raneem Hamad: Once I.
1622
02:29:59.550 --> 02:30:00.000
Nicholas Theisen: can remember.
1623
02:30:02.430 --> 02:30:03.540
Royceann Porter: You can have staticky.
1624
02:30:04.050 --> 02:30:05.520
Nicholas Theisen: Oh i'm really sorry i'm sorry.
1625
02:30:07.530 --> 02:30:12.720
Nicholas Theisen: Well, if I mean I mean I can submit the I can submit in
your writing if you prefer.
1626
02:30:13.470 --> 02:30:20.100
Nicholas Theisen: I mean I don't really have to characterize much I mean
it's in the Minutes from not the most recent City Council meeting, but
from the previous one.
1627
02:30:20.940 --> 02:30:24.390
Nicholas Theisen: Just to characterize it as quickly as possible because
I don't want to take up too much time.
1628
02:30:25.320 --> 02:30:31.740
Nicholas Theisen: Basically I and several other people had addressed so
you can't say again, not the most recent one, the previous one.
1629
02:30:32.430 --> 02:30:39.300
Nicholas Theisen: So we cancelled during public comment time and I
believe I had mentioned something to the effect of city council members
being cowards.
1630
02:30:40.260 --> 02:30:49.830
Nicholas Theisen: And I, I have a feeling, this must have actually said
i've chair porter because you specifically referenced it surely after I
spoke with you and Mr Harris spoke.
1631
02:30:50.430 --> 02:30:59.040
Nicholas Theisen: And in the context of that not only did you lavish
praise on each individual City Council member and also the city manager,
as well as the city attorney.
1632
02:30:59.940 --> 02:31:13.080
Nicholas Theisen: You explicitly said that people have got to get over
June 3 it's literally in minutes and I will forward the Minutes to the
caution if people want to see it so even if you don't remember it doesn't
you can shake your head on, you want it's literally transcribed.
1633
02:31:13.500 --> 02:31:18.300
Nicholas Theisen: So i'm sorry but it's there you did say it and we said
it publicly so that's all I have to say.
1634
02:31:18.810 --> 02:31:41.730
Royceann Porter: Okay, and you know what i'll come back and say i'm
literally listening to that city council meeting I spoke after Eric
esteem and one of the things that I sit there and watch you do was you,
you spoke of the O R O our report and you literally was calling and city
council.
1635
02:31:43.260 --> 02:31:57.840
Royceann Porter: powers, so I spoke up because when I raised my hand I
live in really spoke up to listening to I somebody from ifr a white guy
literally talking about.
1636
02:31:58.770 --> 02:32:19.080
Royceann Porter: disrespecting the black leadership of city council and
that's what I said to you, that is what I said you literally said, and my
thought here you are a coward to if you let this happen so that's what I
was, like you, are using your White privilege to disrespect our black
leadership.
1637
02:32:20.220 --> 02:32:32.850
Royceann Porter: So for me to sit here and tell you how to get over Jim
third that's a damn lie because i've never once told john to get over
June 3 on June 3 when June 3 happen, let me tell you where I was.
1638
02:32:33.330 --> 02:32:50.370
Royceann Porter: me my side here and a mayor Bruce was downtown when it
happened when it happened, the next morning, I called the Sheriff
department, I came back to my job here at Johnson county to find out who
made that call.
1639
02:32:51.390 --> 02:32:55.020
Royceann Porter: So for y'all to act like i'm not concerned about what
had happened.
1640
02:32:55.530 --> 02:33:12.450
Royceann Porter: When it came to Nicholas talking I not one time said get
over June 3 not one time because I literally spoke to the Sheriff
department I literally came back asking, who made that call and I was
told that the governor made that call.
1641
02:33:14.490 --> 02:33:28.440
Royceann Porter: So I don't understand how y'all gonna sit and tell me
what I said I know what I said i'm not going to go back and forth with
this, but i'ma tell you one thing, yes i've been in this Community, for a
very long time, a very long time and i've been doing the.
1642
02:33:28.440 --> 02:33:28.800
Royceann Porter: work.
1643
02:33:29.040 --> 02:33:30.900
Royceann Porter: For y'all to sit and say.
1644
02:33:31.080 --> 02:33:33.000
Royceann Porter: We are the younger generation like we.
1645
02:33:33.000 --> 02:33:45.300
Royceann Porter: supposed to us the older ones who already doing the work
is supposed to just disappear and that child go to work, yes, when George
floyd died and y'all came with your movement, I still that I was at the
beginning of the.
1646
02:33:45.300 --> 02:33:49.800
Royceann Porter: movement with you when you started, and when I was there
when you are.
1647
02:33:49.830 --> 02:33:53.310
Royceann Porter: march with you, but when you went to doing the
vandalism.
1648
02:33:53.490 --> 02:33:54.780
Royceann Porter: And when you went to.
1649
02:33:56.100 --> 02:33:59.880
Royceann Porter: Wanting to go to the highway y'all know I did not agree
with it.
1650
02:34:00.000 --> 02:34:00.300
Royceann Porter: You.
1651
02:34:00.330 --> 02:34:04.350
Royceann Porter: know that, and you know that I did not agree with the
tactics.
1652
02:34:04.350 --> 02:34:11.670
Royceann Porter: That you did when you showed up off and all the
counselors houses I didn't agree with that I didn't agree with the
tactics that.
1653
02:34:11.790 --> 02:34:12.960
Royceann Porter: You guys said that you.
1654
02:34:12.960 --> 02:34:14.310
T'Shailyn Harrington: use a.
1655
02:34:14.520 --> 02:34:27.210
Royceann Porter: harassment and bullying and pushing people to the edge
just pushing pushing pushing but i'm not that type of person because i'm
not gonna let nobody pushed me up to the wall, I know how to stand up and
advocate for myself that's what I did.
1656
02:34:27.690 --> 02:34:30.990
T'Shailyn Harrington: As far as this Commission, I am.
1657
02:34:31.230 --> 02:34:32.940
Royceann Porter: yacht whether you.
1658
02:34:32.970 --> 02:34:33.840
Royceann Porter: know me or not.
1659
02:34:33.990 --> 02:34:35.310
Royceann Porter: you're don't have to vote me.
1660
02:34:35.310 --> 02:34:38.670
Royceann Porter: down, I am happy to step down because.
1661
02:34:39.060 --> 02:34:41.010
Royceann Porter: This meeting is the first time that we.
1662
02:34:41.010 --> 02:34:41.820
T'Shailyn Harrington: have ever.
1663
02:34:41.910 --> 02:34:44.520
Royceann Porter: gotten through anything when I ran the meeting.
1664
02:34:44.580 --> 02:34:49.440
Royceann Porter: I was deliberately it was deliberately ran the way it
was ran because.
1665
02:34:49.770 --> 02:34:55.320
Royceann Porter: You didn't want me there, so I literally asked to shaman
to run this meeting tonight.
1666
02:34:55.410 --> 02:34:56.850
Royceann Porter: I am happy to turn this.
1667
02:34:56.880 --> 02:35:01.380
Royceann Porter: Over to her, because, in order for us to get any work
done on this.
1668
02:35:01.830 --> 02:35:03.870
Royceann Porter: In this group, but.
1669
02:35:04.440 --> 02:35:05.910
Royceann Porter: leticia you absolutely.
1670
02:35:05.910 --> 02:35:07.440
Royceann Porter: Right, I am.
1671
02:35:07.500 --> 02:35:09.300
Royceann Porter: So involved with so.
1672
02:35:09.300 --> 02:35:11.430
Royceann Porter: Much and JESSICA, I am the Johnson.
1673
02:35:11.430 --> 02:35:12.750
Royceann Porter: county vice chair.
1674
02:35:13.080 --> 02:35:15.480
Royceann Porter: I don't have to be the Chair of.
1675
02:35:16.620 --> 02:35:17.670
T'Shailyn Harrington: I am the chair for.
1676
02:35:17.670 --> 02:35:19.140
Royceann Porter: The black voices community.
1677
02:35:19.260 --> 02:35:21.120
Royceann Porter: I serve on a six do this your.
1678
02:35:21.150 --> 02:35:23.940
Royceann Porter: Courts i'm on the England and financing.
1679
02:35:24.150 --> 02:35:26.670
Royceann Porter: i'm on the inside our board of directors.
1680
02:35:26.940 --> 02:35:28.560
Royceann Porter: emily's liaison.
1681
02:35:28.590 --> 02:35:32.070
Royceann Porter: To planning and zoning to the medical examiner to the.
1682
02:35:32.220 --> 02:35:33.780
Royceann Porter: IMA liaison to the.
1683
02:35:33.990 --> 02:35:36.210
Royceann Porter: mls department i'm so full.
1684
02:35:36.270 --> 02:35:37.800
Royceann Porter: I don't know what to do so.
1685
02:35:37.800 --> 02:35:38.910
Royceann Porter: To give this up.
1686
02:35:39.150 --> 02:35:42.240
Royceann Porter: y'all don't have to come and make allegations against me
that's.
1687
02:35:42.240 --> 02:35:45.030
Royceann Porter: Not true anyone y'all could have come to.
1688
02:35:45.030 --> 02:35:46.290
Royceann Porter: me and talk to me.
1689
02:35:46.470 --> 02:35:47.850
Royceann Porter: about anything.
1690
02:35:48.030 --> 02:35:51.420
Royceann Porter: That any one of y'all but to sit here and.
1691
02:35:51.420 --> 02:35:52.350
Royceann Porter: falsely accused.
1692
02:35:52.470 --> 02:35:54.510
T'Shailyn Harrington: me of some stuff and tell me that.
1693
02:35:54.750 --> 02:35:55.980
Royceann Porter: This is what I did.
1694
02:35:56.040 --> 02:35:58.020
Royceann Porter: it's okay if that's how y'all feel.
1695
02:35:58.050 --> 02:36:00.780
Royceann Porter: i'm okay with i'm not leaving this board.
1696
02:36:00.870 --> 02:36:02.100
Royceann Porter: I got to do.
1697
02:36:02.220 --> 02:36:03.540
Royceann Porter: And that's what i'm gonna do well.
1698
02:36:03.570 --> 02:36:05.550
Royceann Porter: it's time for us to stop the.
1699
02:36:06.720 --> 02:36:13.320
Royceann Porter: lead on this mess go let your hatred go and let's roll
our sleeves up and do the work that's what time it is.
1700
02:36:14.430 --> 02:36:28.740
T'Shailyn Harrington: No, yes, most definitely um I want to, I want to
reset her dissertation real quick, I see that we have several people with
their hands, and no one, second, please, please, so we our I resigned as
the Chair.
1701
02:36:29.340 --> 02:36:39.180
Royceann Porter: Damien got it I they could come back with more
accusations, or whatever i'm gonna defend myself, but I would like to see
you step up as the vice chair and do this work.
1702
02:36:40.260 --> 02:36:42.120
T'Shailyn Harrington: I will have a.
1703
02:36:43.260 --> 02:36:43.710
T'Shailyn Harrington: condition.
1704
02:36:45.690 --> 02:36:47.070
Raneem Hamad: I would like to speak if.
1705
02:36:47.370 --> 02:36:48.060
possible.
1706
02:36:50.250 --> 02:36:51.180
Raneem Hamad: Can we please.
1707
02:36:51.690 --> 02:36:52.560
Raneem Hamad: i'm requesting.
1708
02:36:52.680 --> 02:37:01.290
T'Shailyn Harrington: emotion, to go for leadership moves me please allow
me to re Center this conversation that is all that i'm asking.
1709
02:37:01.350 --> 02:37:01.710
yeah.
1710
02:37:03.150 --> 02:37:06.210
T'Shailyn Harrington: I do wish to resend of the summer session.
1711
02:37:09.060 --> 02:37:15.390
T'Shailyn Harrington: Before Orson began speaking and before Nicholas
shared about.
1712
02:37:16.890 --> 02:37:18.570
T'Shailyn Harrington: Two meetings prior for city council.
1713
02:37:21.180 --> 02:37:26.940
T'Shailyn Harrington: Mohammed was about to bring forward the allegations
right.
1714
02:37:28.830 --> 02:37:29.970
T'Shailyn Harrington: But we went over.
1715
02:37:30.120 --> 02:37:41.040
T'Shailyn Harrington: To these comments for from City Council I before we
have all these five people with their hands up I do want to know further
what Muhammad.
1716
02:37:42.180 --> 02:37:43.350
T'Shailyn Harrington: Before we review.
1717
02:37:44.100 --> 02:37:46.410
T'Shailyn Harrington: That happens, there are two things that I want to
clarify.
1718
02:37:46.410 --> 02:37:49.230
Raneem Hamad: From Royce and Chair porter's.
1719
02:37:49.290 --> 02:37:52.080
Raneem Hamad: Special there's two things that I really need to pair I.
1720
02:37:52.080 --> 02:37:53.280
Raneem Hamad: know I have.
1721
02:37:54.480 --> 02:37:54.930
Eric Harris: An order.
1722
02:37:56.520 --> 02:37:57.120
T'Shailyn Harrington: You can say.
1723
02:37:59.610 --> 02:38:00.210
You can say that.
1724
02:38:06.480 --> 02:38:08.010
Mohamed Traore: All make this very.
1725
02:38:08.040 --> 02:38:09.540
T'Shailyn Harrington: Quick um.
1726
02:38:09.630 --> 02:38:14.310
Mohamed Traore: I would like to defer the rest, I was going to say to
allow Commissioner speak.
1727
02:38:15.120 --> 02:38:17.040
T'Shailyn Harrington: For why what was.
1728
02:38:19.530 --> 02:38:20.460
Raneem Hamad: The topic that I want to.
1729
02:38:23.070 --> 02:38:24.810
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Wait i'm confused hold on.
1730
02:38:25.020 --> 02:38:25.920
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): hold on hold on.
1731
02:38:27.300 --> 02:38:29.670
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Okay, just chillin say what you need to
say.
1732
02:38:29.940 --> 02:38:30.390
T'Shailyn Harrington: Please.
1733
02:38:30.780 --> 02:38:38.190
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Can you please say what you need to say,
then you can speak and then i'll speak that can be like to shale and
finish her thought, please.
1734
02:38:39.690 --> 02:38:47.070
T'Shailyn Harrington: Thank you all I wanted to do was because the
conversation was becoming a back and forth over zoom.
1735
02:38:48.420 --> 02:38:54.690
T'Shailyn Harrington: Meeting everyone to take a break and stop for a
second and understand how we after that point.
1736
02:38:55.920 --> 02:38:58.890
T'Shailyn Harrington: Mohammed run up to city council right.
1737
02:39:00.120 --> 02:39:08.070
T'Shailyn Harrington: Nicholas in the comment said I can I can verify
feature, the example, whatever your voice and commented that's where we
went.
1738
02:39:08.670 --> 02:39:19.410
T'Shailyn Harrington: But Mohammed never finished his train of thought
her or his what he was going to say so, I Muhammad if you could please
finish that before you defer anything I was.
1739
02:39:19.560 --> 02:39:20.490
T'Shailyn Harrington: going to be.
1740
02:39:20.640 --> 02:39:23.460
Mohamed Traore: it's going to be that important, I would just like to
say.
1741
02:39:23.970 --> 02:39:24.210
Yes.
1742
02:39:25.830 --> 02:39:26.520
Mohamed Traore: yeah yeah.
1743
02:39:27.000 --> 02:39:28.110
Mohamed Traore: I mean the whole point of the.
1744
02:39:28.140 --> 02:39:29.970
Mohamed Traore: No conference code and everything was.
1745
02:39:29.970 --> 02:39:30.540
T'Shailyn Harrington: To.
1746
02:39:30.720 --> 02:39:31.890
Mohamed Traore: get new leadership and.
1747
02:39:32.160 --> 02:39:34.710
Mohamed Traore: It seems to me that the former.
1748
02:39:35.070 --> 02:39:36.540
T'Shailyn Harrington: Now, former chair, because she has.
1749
02:39:36.540 --> 02:39:43.140
Mohamed Traore: resigned her position as Chair has done so, I mean if she
would really like to still hear the allegations then.
1750
02:39:44.220 --> 02:39:44.730
T'Shailyn Harrington: i'm.
1751
02:39:46.590 --> 02:39:47.430
T'Shailyn Harrington: Not case.
1752
02:39:47.520 --> 02:39:48.900
T'Shailyn Harrington: i'm Mr.
1753
02:39:48.960 --> 02:39:49.800
T'Shailyn Harrington: Mr cable with.
1754
02:39:49.860 --> 02:39:50.820
Mohamed Traore: You would like to speak.
1755
02:39:51.390 --> 02:39:54.000
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Is it Okay, if I just like say something
before.
1756
02:39:54.270 --> 02:39:55.410
Mohamed Traore: Know for first and foremost.
1757
02:39:56.220 --> 02:39:58.440
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): For this I just I just want.
1758
02:39:59.760 --> 02:40:03.750
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Is there something you want to say,
Commissioner, Harris, I feel like i'm upsetting you.
1759
02:40:04.740 --> 02:40:16.530
Eric Harris: Know i'm Cuban X to finish what he has to say he was
talking, just like the vice chair sit let him present his evidence,
because i've seen it and heard about it.
1760
02:40:17.760 --> 02:40:20.640
Eric Harris: And this is what the kindle confidence voters about it's not
about.
1761
02:40:22.170 --> 02:40:22.860
Eric Harris: The other thing.
1762
02:40:23.400 --> 02:40:23.730
About.
1763
02:40:26.370 --> 02:40:26.700
T'Shailyn Harrington: here's a.
1764
02:40:28.770 --> 02:40:30.000
Jesse Case: here's a genuine somebody.
1765
02:40:30.180 --> 02:40:32.370
Jesse Case: very wise put something in the comments about.
1766
02:40:32.940 --> 02:40:38.160
Jesse Case: You know the conflict serve no purpose, but some of this
should be worked out behind closed doors, because there's a certain
element.
1767
02:40:38.160 --> 02:40:39.090
Jesse Case: of character says.
1768
02:40:39.750 --> 02:40:39.960
A.
1769
02:40:41.400 --> 02:40:43.290
Raneem Hamad: lot about character assassination and i'm literally.
1770
02:40:43.290 --> 02:40:45.630
Raneem Hamad: Trying to speak it up had been trying to speak to the past.
1771
02:40:45.930 --> 02:40:50.100
Raneem Hamad: As well help us move forward, but no one wants to.
1772
02:40:51.990 --> 02:40:52.260
T'Shailyn Harrington: Get.
1773
02:40:52.590 --> 02:40:53.220
T'Shailyn Harrington: The one thing.
1774
02:40:53.310 --> 02:40:54.840
Raneem Hamad: Two things I wanted to clarify from what chip.
1775
02:40:54.870 --> 02:40:56.400
Raneem Hamad: porter has spoken about earlier.
1776
02:40:56.550 --> 02:41:00.960
Raneem Hamad: One she was not President, when we got to your gas, I was
there tear gas happened.
1777
02:41:01.200 --> 02:41:02.940
Raneem Hamad: I way after 11pm.
1778
02:41:03.420 --> 02:41:05.160
T'Shailyn Harrington: She was not present to.
1779
02:41:05.550 --> 02:41:07.260
Raneem Hamad: meet the discussions.
1780
02:41:07.290 --> 02:41:11.010
Raneem Hamad: of her saying that she did not say what she said during the
City Council meeting.
1781
02:41:11.430 --> 02:41:15.360
T'Shailyn Harrington: there's multiple people who have confirmed this in
the chat that instead of it's in the meeting.
1782
02:41:15.360 --> 02:41:20.640
Raneem Hamad: minutes, so those are the two things I want to first
clarify second of all the when the person who.
1783
02:41:20.670 --> 02:41:25.980
Raneem Hamad: Was with regards to the issues of what happened there, what
are the allegations the elegant and the reason.
1784
02:41:26.040 --> 02:41:27.840
Raneem Hamad: Why we didn't want to bring the witness into this.
1785
02:41:27.840 --> 02:41:29.190
Raneem Hamad: conversation is because.
1786
02:41:29.310 --> 02:41:30.930
Raneem Hamad: This person was literally harassed.
1787
02:41:30.990 --> 02:41:41.280
Raneem Hamad: by our former chair and we did not want to subject them to
further harassment by forcing him to be in a space that is not safe, that
is not following its mandate of making sure that the public is put.
1788
02:41:41.670 --> 02:41:50.580
Raneem Hamad: Put at the Center of every color every discussion so Why
would it be and it's in their best interest to put them in this position,
where he would they would have to talk about their.
1789
02:41:51.000 --> 02:41:53.310
Raneem Hamad: trauma to their harasser and force.
1790
02:41:53.310 --> 02:41:53.520
T'Shailyn Harrington: them.
1791
02:41:53.610 --> 02:41:54.990
Raneem Hamad: To be subject to further harm.
1792
02:41:55.140 --> 02:41:56.670
Raneem Hamad: But something that we were not interested to.
1793
02:41:56.850 --> 02:42:00.570
Raneem Hamad: The evidence of the allegations was presented to everyone
and then within the.
1794
02:42:00.570 --> 02:42:03.600
Raneem Hamad: Commission and I sent an email that was President.
1795
02:42:03.900 --> 02:42:08.220
Raneem Hamad: Gender that informed everyone all the Commissioners of the
evidence that I had had.
1796
02:42:08.490 --> 02:42:09.780
T'Shailyn Harrington: In fact Eric.
1797
02:42:09.840 --> 02:42:12.450
Raneem Hamad: reached out to me personally so and that's how he.
1798
02:42:12.480 --> 02:42:14.430
T'Shailyn Harrington: got the evidence of the.
1799
02:42:14.610 --> 02:42:16.170
Raneem Hamad: Allegations able to listen.
1800
02:42:16.980 --> 02:42:18.210
Jesse Case: She just resign.
1801
02:42:18.270 --> 02:42:21.150
Jesse Case: Why is it necessary to continue down this.
1802
02:42:21.180 --> 02:42:22.350
Raneem Hamad: path we need.
1803
02:42:23.940 --> 02:42:24.360
T'Shailyn Harrington: Is.
1804
02:42:25.110 --> 02:42:28.020
Raneem Hamad: necessary because the public needs to know, and second, of
all, I.
1805
02:42:29.790 --> 02:42:37.170
Raneem Hamad: would like to speak and I would like them again to Center
what their wants are, and I would like to victim, the victim of this
harassment.
1806
02:42:37.200 --> 02:42:37.800
T'Shailyn Harrington: To speak.
1807
02:42:38.040 --> 02:42:40.320
Raneem Hamad: So jalen if you're willing to speak and you feel
comfortable.
1808
02:42:40.320 --> 02:42:42.600
Raneem Hamad: Speaking and sharing your story I would love to.
1809
02:42:43.050 --> 02:42:43.890
T'Shailyn Harrington: hear your thoughts.
1810
02:42:48.150 --> 02:42:53.610
T'Shailyn Harrington: On if you would be and I do want to mention that
this is what i've been wanting to happen.
1811
02:42:56.640 --> 02:43:00.450
T'Shailyn Harrington: Okay day one, if you want, you can you hear me.
1812
02:43:01.770 --> 02:43:02.040
T'Shailyn Harrington: feel.
1813
02:43:03.090 --> 02:43:03.450
Jaylen Cavil: yeah.
1814
02:43:03.990 --> 02:43:04.950
Jaylen Cavil: yeah I don't want to be like.
1815
02:43:05.010 --> 02:43:05.880
T'Shailyn Harrington: You know, to Jimmy.
1816
02:43:06.030 --> 02:43:10.590
Jaylen Cavil: I feel like things are a little bit too dramatic right now
i'm honestly but.
1817
02:43:11.310 --> 02:43:23.610
Jaylen Cavil: I will speak on what happened um you know, so it folks
remember I spoke at a meeting, two weeks ago, I think that was a yeah
February 18 so i've been attending some of these meetings.
1818
02:43:24.330 --> 02:43:29.790
Jaylen Cavil: And I did speak up last time just letting folks know that I
do live in des moines i'm you know i'm.
1819
02:43:30.360 --> 02:43:39.210
Jaylen Cavil: an activist and organizer who is yeah just interested in
all types of ways that racial justice can be advanced and I was
interested in this PRC, which is why i've been tuning into it.
1820
02:43:39.870 --> 02:43:47.910
Jaylen Cavil: Since it began, for the most part um yeah just trying to
see how how y'all are doing it and seeing if it can be like replicated in
you know, possibly the morning.
1821
02:43:48.210 --> 02:43:59.970
Jaylen Cavil: So yeah I just spoke up at a meeting, two weeks ago
February 18 i'm just kind of expressing like what I just said why I was
watching the meeting and kind of expressing my disappointment for the.
1822
02:44:00.690 --> 02:44:13.230
Jaylen Cavil: Just just how messy it was honestly, like everyone knows
who's been watching like it's been a mess, for the most part and and I
just expressed that when I spoke up i'm not router one out.
1823
02:44:14.880 --> 02:44:15.840
T'Shailyn Harrington: That I was disappointed.
1824
02:44:16.080 --> 02:44:22.650
Jaylen Cavil: And I see folks together and I the yeah work towards the
things that you're supposed to be working on.
1825
02:44:23.340 --> 02:44:27.210
Jaylen Cavil: So that's that's all I said, really, for the most part, I
do want to say, the reason I did speak up.
1826
02:44:27.810 --> 02:44:33.750
Jaylen Cavil: was just and I think that the meetings were so
dysfunctional for the most part, was probably because we're saying was
the chair.
1827
02:44:34.290 --> 02:44:42.870
Jaylen Cavil: But I didn't say that when I spoke up I didn't single
single anyone out and then you know the next day I got a call from
Maurice and i'm to my cell phone.
1828
02:44:43.470 --> 02:44:52.230
Jaylen Cavil: i'm good I entered it, you know hello, how are you doing or
saying politely she immediately was very hostile told me, I heard that
you have a problem with me and we need to talk.
1829
02:44:53.250 --> 02:45:02.970
Jaylen Cavil: And I was like I have no problem with you, I don't know
what you're referring to, and she began to you know tell me how I don't
know anything you know I don't know anything and i'm.
1830
02:45:03.270 --> 02:45:06.750
Jaylen Cavil: So young people don't know anything, and it was very much
like.
1831
02:45:06.900 --> 02:45:17.070
Jaylen Cavil: Like literally me and questioning my intelligence she kept
saying over and over again that I was an ifr and me, and all the ifr
people don't know anything I kept telling her i'm not an ifr.
1832
02:45:17.700 --> 02:45:23.010
Jaylen Cavil: You know I know people and if i'm friends with folks and I
have far, but I am not a member, by far, I live in the morning.
1833
02:45:23.790 --> 02:45:27.420
Jaylen Cavil: And you know she kept saying I was an ifr I was like i'm
not an ifr she kept saying you know.
1834
02:45:27.720 --> 02:45:34.020
Jaylen Cavil: Basically, questioning why intelligence saying I don't
really know what's going on, telling me I don't know what's going on at
the state House at the legislature, you know.
1835
02:45:34.260 --> 02:45:46.020
Jaylen Cavil: Well, a bunch of other things, it was a 20 minute
conversation of us going back and forth of me, you know, trying to be as
respectful as possible, because I do have respect for worse than I do,
where is the importer and you know her accomplishments in the work she's
done.
1836
02:45:47.910 --> 02:45:48.420
Jaylen Cavil: and
1837
02:45:50.160 --> 02:46:00.120
Jaylen Cavil: Fishing for about 20 minutes, I express I felt like she was
being disrespectful to me and I didn't know why she was being
disrespectful to me because I felt like I had always been respectful to
her um.
1838
02:46:00.870 --> 02:46:06.690
Jaylen Cavil: And you know she kind of use any of the conversation I was
just very, very hostile conversation and.
1839
02:46:07.200 --> 02:46:12.720
Jaylen Cavil: It just made me feel uncomfortable I don't want to say I
was like traumatized by it, or anything like that, like it was I can
handle the.
1840
02:46:13.140 --> 02:46:27.480
Jaylen Cavil: Intense conversation or someone coming at me i'm i'm very
used to people being hostile towards me, you know it's it comes with you
know the things that I do right, I like to speak out so i'm used to
people speaking back at me, but I just felt uncomfortable I guess being
as her.
1841
02:46:27.690 --> 02:46:29.490
Jaylen Cavil: Being the Chair of the Commission and me.
1842
02:46:30.270 --> 02:46:36.780
Jaylen Cavil: I felt like she had called me because I gave a public
comment that at the meeting the day before, so you know it makes me think
like, though.
1843
02:46:37.650 --> 02:46:44.520
Jaylen Cavil: Are Am I should I keep getting can I give a public comment,
without having to worry about like hearing from the Chair, you know my
cell phone or.
1844
02:46:44.880 --> 02:46:55.020
Jaylen Cavil: or other people who are given public comments that are you
know criticizing the Commission also receiving phone calls from the Chair
or other people in the Commission that are that are hostile um so yeah I
just.
1845
02:46:55.650 --> 02:47:05.370
Jaylen Cavil: Let other folks who I know who are on the Commission or
folks who are you know acquaintances or colleagues with people on the
Commission know about this interaction, I had with tori saying and.
1846
02:47:06.510 --> 02:47:19.410
Jaylen Cavil: I guess it was shared with other folks on the Commission
and is now i'm being used as a reason for rentable makes honestly um you
know you cannot say I was traumatized feel like.
1847
02:47:20.520 --> 02:47:20.880
Jaylen Cavil: Saying.
1848
02:47:22.860 --> 02:47:29.940
Jaylen Cavil: I don't know I again I have respect by this conversation or
action with her hope that you know.
1849
02:47:31.110 --> 02:47:35.340
Jaylen Cavil: does not feel as if i'm like trying to assassinate your
character like I know Jesse said.
1850
02:47:35.340 --> 02:47:35.970
T'Shailyn Harrington: Earlier, whether.
1851
02:47:36.210 --> 02:47:37.410
Jaylen Cavil: This is a personal attack him.
1852
02:47:37.410 --> 02:47:42.240
Jaylen Cavil: Sir i'm just explaining what happened because I think that
it sounds like everyone was interested in hearing it.
1853
02:47:42.900 --> 02:47:51.030
Jaylen Cavil: Also, say, I guess, while i'm just talking um what's the
point of even having a chair when Jesse cases really acting like the
chair and kind of running the whole meaning, so I just.
1854
02:47:51.330 --> 02:47:58.920
Jaylen Cavil: feel like there's too much involvement from this white man
in the CRC but that's just my own personal opinion on the matter um I
guess that's all say.
1855
02:47:59.670 --> 02:48:00.180
Royceann Porter: yay land.
1856
02:48:02.430 --> 02:48:04.050
Royceann Porter: Can you can you tell the.
1857
02:48:05.070 --> 02:48:08.430
Royceann Porter: People on this call, how we ended the conversation.
1858
02:48:10.380 --> 02:48:10.740
Jaylen Cavil: um.
1859
02:48:11.040 --> 02:48:13.140
Jaylen Cavil: How did you don't have to speak, if you don't feel.
1860
02:48:13.140 --> 02:48:14.760
Royceann Porter: comfortable when you.
1861
02:48:16.050 --> 02:48:20.040
Jaylen Cavil: How do you how do you how do you recall that we ended the
conversation or saying.
1862
02:48:20.280 --> 02:48:23.460
Royceann Porter: I want to, I want to tell it from start to finish.
1863
02:48:24.150 --> 02:48:26.430
Jaylen Cavil: I mean you refute the things that I said.
1864
02:48:26.790 --> 02:48:31.440
Raneem Hamad: Absolutely, and if you don't feel comfortable with this
conversation you don't have to continue this conversation.
1865
02:48:31.470 --> 02:48:41.430
Jaylen Cavil: Okay i'll just say that everything that I said was truthful
I was not exaggerating I could have you been I could have went in more
about some of the things that she said, and I did not, I didn't mention
was.
1866
02:48:42.840 --> 02:48:43.410
Royceann Porter: Gaining.
1867
02:48:43.860 --> 02:48:46.650
Jaylen Cavil: Because i'm passwords, but I just you know I didn't.
1868
02:48:46.710 --> 02:48:48.750
Royceann Porter: mean it How did we end the conversation.
1869
02:48:48.750 --> 02:49:00.330
Royceann Porter: Because me and you literally had a whole conversation
what you're telling these people on this phone is totally different yes,
I called you and, at the very beginning of our conversation jalen.
1870
02:49:00.600 --> 02:49:04.110
Royceann Porter: I know you personally, I called you up and I ax two.
1871
02:49:04.380 --> 02:49:07.020
Royceann Porter: jalen what the Fuck is your problem with.
1872
02:49:07.020 --> 02:49:09.660
Royceann Porter: me, those who are my words to you.
1873
02:49:10.380 --> 02:49:10.740
Jaylen Cavil: And I.
1874
02:49:11.010 --> 02:49:11.790
Jaylen Cavil: told you, I don't have a.
1875
02:49:12.150 --> 02:49:17.370
Royceann Porter: Bad your turn I want to be able, you can come back, but
I want to be able to tell my side of the story okay.
1876
02:49:18.510 --> 02:49:22.770
Royceann Porter: Because you've told yours and when when when when I
spoke to you that.
1877
02:49:22.770 --> 02:49:32.160
Royceann Porter: was the first thing I said and you said, Miss Royce and
I don't have a problem with you, I said what is going on, the first thing
you said to me, was.
1878
02:49:32.670 --> 02:49:49.410
Royceann Porter: I wish you would sit down with ifr he said, I wish you
can sit down with ifr that's what you said to me and I told you Jane and
I tried that I said I did that from day one, I literally you told me miss
ya sayin.
1879
02:49:49.800 --> 02:49:53.760
Royceann Porter: i'm not with the ifr you tell me you with with the
black.
1880
02:49:54.870 --> 02:49:55.380
Mohamed Traore: National.
1881
02:49:56.880 --> 02:49:57.630
Jaylen Cavil: movement is.
1882
02:49:57.690 --> 02:49:59.910
Mohamed Traore: yeah yeah yeahs Commissioner porter and jalen.
1883
02:50:00.300 --> 02:50:02.460
Mohamed Traore: In the interest of everyone's time in here.
1884
02:50:02.670 --> 02:50:07.020
Royceann Porter: I don't know we can't talk about nobody time if i'm
being accused of.
1885
02:50:07.020 --> 02:50:07.470
Something.
1886
02:50:11.010 --> 02:50:11.970
Mohamed Traore: From what I was told.
1887
02:50:12.420 --> 02:50:19.500
Mohamed Traore: We were supposed to have the person making the accusation
speak and talk about them um I don't.
1888
02:50:20.520 --> 02:50:23.880
Royceann Porter: I can't respond somebody can just somebody could just
come.
1889
02:50:26.400 --> 02:50:28.440
Mohamed Traore: guys are currently having a back and forth.
1890
02:50:30.510 --> 02:50:31.050
Mohamed Traore: Monday
1891
02:50:32.940 --> 02:50:33.420
Mohamed Traore: Okay.
1892
02:50:34.650 --> 02:50:35.160
Mohamed Traore: Monday
1893
02:50:43.980 --> 02:50:44.430
Royceann Porter: fan.
1894
02:50:44.610 --> 02:50:47.670
T'Shailyn Harrington: Yes, yes, and we just.
1895
02:50:48.780 --> 02:50:54.810
T'Shailyn Harrington: Go for it but but listen after after both sides of
the story is laid out.
1896
02:50:55.440 --> 02:50:56.040
Royceann Porter: i'm done.
1897
02:50:57.060 --> 02:51:00.120
Royceann Porter: i'm done, but I need to be able to tell my story.
1898
02:51:00.120 --> 02:51:01.590
T'Shailyn Harrington: Go no yeah.
1899
02:51:01.650 --> 02:51:04.740
T'Shailyn Harrington: that's one thing you know your side and.
1900
02:51:06.510 --> 02:51:08.430
T'Shailyn Harrington: done and it's up to interpretation of what.
1901
02:51:08.940 --> 02:51:09.540
T'Shailyn Harrington: From he says.
1902
02:51:10.470 --> 02:51:11.520
T'Shailyn Harrington: He say.
1903
02:51:11.970 --> 02:51:15.390
Royceann Porter: What is he say she say this say no.
1904
02:51:15.570 --> 02:51:17.670
Royceann Porter: You don't got no record they don't have.
1905
02:51:17.700 --> 02:51:29.490
Royceann Porter: Anything nobody did anything to even see if it's true
it's just that he came and told us this what you did I did call him, yes
I call him and he told me he was.
1906
02:51:29.490 --> 02:51:30.060
Royceann Porter: Not with.
1907
02:51:30.120 --> 02:51:30.240
us.
1908
02:51:32.250 --> 02:51:32.730
to share.
1909
02:51:34.350 --> 02:51:34.680
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I don't.
1910
02:51:34.710 --> 02:51:45.090
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Think I don't think that you should be
saying this is a he said she said thing, because if people are going to
be coming on to this platform later and telling their truths about.
1911
02:51:45.570 --> 02:51:46.410
Exactly.
1912
02:51:52.980 --> 02:52:07.800
T'Shailyn Harrington: I understand, not yeah that importance of
supporting people who come and share their vulnerability, I understand
how ever I do see the importance of their being that.
1913
02:52:10.770 --> 02:52:11.340
T'Shailyn Harrington: They don't yeah.
1914
02:52:12.060 --> 02:52:14.400
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): They don't think this is more like.
1915
02:52:15.210 --> 02:52:15.960
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I don't want to make.
1916
02:52:17.490 --> 02:52:20.190
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): yeah I don't want to make rice and feel
like she's sitting on this.
1917
02:52:21.630 --> 02:52:22.860
Commissioner Tony Currin: She stepped down.
1918
02:52:31.230 --> 02:52:31.530
T'Shailyn Harrington: well.
1919
02:52:31.770 --> 02:52:33.660
Royceann Porter: I can tell my story is just.
1920
02:52:36.150 --> 02:52:36.450
Eric Harris: Do we.
1921
02:52:37.260 --> 02:52:41.670
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): want to hear your story, I just want I
do want to hear your story i'm just saying.
1922
02:52:41.700 --> 02:52:42.840
Mohamed Traore: Can we have our.
1923
02:52:42.840 --> 02:52:44.700
Mohamed Traore: Acting chair, Commissioner.
1924
02:52:44.820 --> 02:52:50.220
Mohamed Traore: I can just call this to order so we can continue with
however we're going to do this we don't have.
1925
02:52:50.580 --> 02:52:50.790
Mohamed Traore: Like.
1926
02:52:50.850 --> 02:52:51.870
T'Shailyn Harrington: eight different people speak.
1927
02:52:53.040 --> 02:52:53.400
T'Shailyn Harrington: Yes.
1928
02:52:54.030 --> 02:53:05.250
T'Shailyn Harrington: Yes, part of that is not everybody speak it or I
say finish what you're saying, and then we will be done with this agenda
item, because there is no vote.
1929
02:53:06.900 --> 02:53:13.710
T'Shailyn Harrington: there's no need for a vote of no confidence because
she has resigned and I am now assuming role of chair okay.
1930
02:53:14.850 --> 02:53:15.360
T'Shailyn Harrington: Yes.
1931
02:53:15.750 --> 02:53:16.590
T'Shailyn Harrington: Okay, as.
1932
02:53:17.580 --> 02:53:20.850
Royceann Porter: Long as i'm able to get my story i'm okay I don't care
about nothing else.
1933
02:53:21.360 --> 02:53:30.840
Royceann Porter: To what goes on, so when he told me that he was with the
group he was in he said we're going to.
1934
02:53:32.430 --> 02:53:35.280
Royceann Porter: abolish the police we're going to.
1935
02:53:36.240 --> 02:53:39.690
Royceann Porter: defund the police, and I said.
1936
02:53:39.750 --> 02:53:42.810
Royceann Porter: Jamie do you know what's on the state.
1937
02:53:42.840 --> 02:53:44.550
Royceann Porter: legislature floor.
1938
02:53:45.060 --> 02:53:46.410
Royceann Porter: Right now, in the morning.
1939
02:53:46.740 --> 02:53:59.130
Royceann Porter: And he told me I said the governor has made a statement
that if anybody defund the police they're going to cut our funding so
then he said we're going to.
1940
02:53:59.400 --> 02:54:00.420
Royceann Porter: Get rid of.
1941
02:54:00.840 --> 02:54:08.970
Royceann Porter: i'm systemic racism and I said oh Okay, and so I asked
him I said Jamie what are you doing.
1942
02:54:09.210 --> 02:54:10.890
Royceann Porter: Positive what are you doing.
1943
02:54:10.890 --> 02:54:19.410
Royceann Porter: Positive in your Community he said well with the
blistering cold last week, he said, we were able to raise money.
1944
02:54:19.650 --> 02:54:22.740
Royceann Porter: To put up 175.
1945
02:54:22.770 --> 02:54:26.850
Royceann Porter: People in a hotel and homeless people.
1946
02:54:27.090 --> 02:54:30.180
Royceann Porter: And I said Okay, I said what guess what Jamie.
1947
02:54:30.210 --> 02:54:31.140
Royceann Porter: He said yes.
1948
02:54:31.410 --> 02:54:33.300
Royceann Porter: I said, we have the guy link.
1949
02:54:33.300 --> 02:54:35.640
Royceann Porter: Center I said we got a brand new.
1950
02:54:35.670 --> 02:54:37.800
Royceann Porter: guys links in an open right now.
1951
02:54:37.980 --> 02:54:39.810
T'Shailyn Harrington: That we are hosting homeless.
1952
02:54:39.810 --> 02:54:41.970
Royceann Porter: People in I said not only.
1953
02:54:42.000 --> 02:54:42.420
T'Shailyn Harrington: That.
1954
02:54:42.720 --> 02:54:46.530
Royceann Porter: City Council has approved a.
1955
02:54:46.560 --> 02:54:48.060
T'Shailyn Harrington: Mental health person.
1956
02:54:48.240 --> 02:54:49.680
Royceann Porter: To go out with the police.
1957
02:54:49.920 --> 02:54:52.020
Royceann Porter: I said and hold on not only that.
1958
02:54:52.260 --> 02:54:53.340
Royceann Porter: I said Jamie.
1959
02:54:53.550 --> 02:54:54.510
We have.
1960
02:54:55.830 --> 02:54:56.370
Royceann Porter: A.
1961
02:54:57.450 --> 02:55:05.520
Royceann Porter: We don't have to worry about our college kids getting
all w eyes and duis because they the police now can take them to the guy
link Center.
1962
02:55:06.900 --> 02:55:08.100
T'Shailyn Harrington: And they can detox.
1963
02:55:08.100 --> 02:55:11.400
Royceann Porter: For 24 hours, so how inhale was I.
1964
02:55:11.400 --> 02:55:12.900
Royceann Porter: Intimidation when me and this.
1965
02:55:12.900 --> 02:55:13.140
Royceann Porter: boy.
1966
02:55:13.170 --> 02:55:13.980
T'Shailyn Harrington: was calling me.
1967
02:55:14.010 --> 02:55:15.810
Royceann Porter: this young man was going.
1968
02:55:15.840 --> 02:55:21.510
Raneem Hamad: back and forth i'm going to have to interject I will have
to leave this meeting and the victim of this issue.
1969
02:55:21.780 --> 02:55:22.290
T'Shailyn Harrington: Where you need.
1970
02:55:22.650 --> 02:55:28.440
Royceann Porter: sweetie, I just wanted to tell my story, and that was
the end of my story somebody come in.
1971
02:55:28.680 --> 02:55:31.380
Royceann Porter: I don't even know how this is even happening.
1972
02:55:31.650 --> 02:55:33.120
Royceann Porter: When we talk about truth and.
1973
02:55:33.120 --> 02:55:35.160
Royceann Porter: Reconciliation i'm not even.
1974
02:55:35.280 --> 02:55:36.750
able to tell my truth.
1975
02:55:37.800 --> 02:55:42.990
Royceann Porter: I just got to just listen to Somebody tell me, I did
some yeah I don't even want to hear my.
1976
02:55:42.990 --> 02:55:43.530
T'Shailyn Harrington: truth.
1977
02:55:43.740 --> 02:55:44.550
Royceann Porter: I had a whole.
1978
02:55:45.330 --> 02:55:46.890
Raneem Hamad: there's a difference between telling.
1979
02:55:46.890 --> 02:55:48.360
Raneem Hamad: Your truth and also for me.
1980
02:55:49.770 --> 02:55:52.500
Royceann Porter: Know it's not a different tiny is the truth.
1981
02:55:55.380 --> 02:55:55.740
T'Shailyn Harrington: Oh.
1982
02:56:02.160 --> 02:56:12.390
T'Shailyn Harrington: But I didn't want to be because of the nature of it
being that, as I said, being chair in a vote of no confidence and.
1983
02:56:13.410 --> 02:56:30.210
T'Shailyn Harrington: Running email saying like do the open meetings
policy I can't I can't discuss it, you know info in this was the only
time that anyone could could hear what was going on, up until this point,
I did I didn't know it's clear that.
1984
02:56:31.920 --> 02:56:33.150
T'Shailyn Harrington: Several of them we let the Pope.
1985
02:56:34.680 --> 02:56:41.700
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I I feel like I would like to speak on
things before we let the public speak i've been waiting.
1986
02:56:41.850 --> 02:56:48.210
T'Shailyn Harrington: Okay, I okay listen I I i'm going to allow the
several.
1987
02:56:49.350 --> 02:56:52.230
T'Shailyn Harrington: members of the public to make their comments.
1988
02:56:53.430 --> 02:57:01.650
T'Shailyn Harrington: But I do want to let everyone know, since at the
top of this agenda item we're saying.
1989
02:57:02.940 --> 02:57:15.060
T'Shailyn Harrington: step down from from share so there's no the agenda
item to there's no need to do this, like motion to to remove a vote of no
confidence.
1990
02:57:17.790 --> 02:57:19.050
Raneem Hamad: leadership and not just.
1991
02:57:19.740 --> 02:57:20.550
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): The fight and just.
1992
02:57:21.000 --> 02:57:21.480
T'Shailyn Harrington: Two years.
1993
02:57:22.320 --> 02:57:25.080
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): that's what my questions for like I
need.
1994
02:57:25.350 --> 02:57:26.910
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I need confirmation if she.
1995
02:57:26.910 --> 02:57:30.630
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): steps down does that change the rules
like that this is what.
1996
02:57:30.630 --> 02:57:31.620
T'Shailyn Harrington: i'm raising my hand.
1997
02:57:33.360 --> 02:57:35.430
Commissioner Tony Currin: there's a clear line of secession.
1998
02:57:35.760 --> 02:57:36.480
Commissioner Tony Currin: We already.
1999
02:57:39.450 --> 02:57:43.350
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): yeah no but Commissioner current there's
different rules if this was robert's rules.
2000
02:57:43.350 --> 02:57:46.350
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Then, yes to shale in harrington would
be our new chair.
2001
02:57:46.350 --> 02:57:48.840
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): But since we haven't decided that we're
officially going to.
2002
02:57:48.870 --> 02:57:54.510
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Go by robert's rules it's actually
whatever we want it to be, I believe, if.
2003
02:57:57.120 --> 02:57:57.990
T'Shailyn Harrington: attorney still on.
2004
02:57:58.050 --> 02:57:58.740
Jesse Case: The city attorney.
2005
02:57:59.700 --> 02:58:01.200
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Unless i'm reading the jargon.
2006
02:58:01.200 --> 02:58:07.350
Raneem Hamad: incorrectly go and we don't have robert's rules as our
bylaws we have the right to do whatever we.
2007
02:58:07.350 --> 02:58:10.440
Mohamed Traore: want and we just had the city attorney speak, please.
2008
02:58:11.160 --> 02:58:25.050
Eleanor Dilkes: Eleanor yes Eleanor elk city attorney I think it's it's
not just robert's rules that would say it succeeds, to the vice vice
chair it's it's common understanding.
2009
02:58:25.500 --> 02:58:37.260
Eleanor Dilkes: it's the case with every Commission that this city has,
if you want it, if you want to make that not be the case, then you know
how to do that.
2010
02:58:37.740 --> 02:58:53.130
Eleanor Dilkes: But if you want to make a motion have to remove the vice
chair, who is now succeeded to exceed it to the Chair that's within your
power to do, but I think it's not reasonable to suggest that the vice
chair does not.
2011
02:58:53.460 --> 02:58:55.440
Raneem Hamad: i'm making a motion to go for new.
2012
02:58:55.440 --> 02:58:56.100
leadership.
2013
02:58:59.520 --> 02:59:00.720
T'Shailyn Harrington: Second, that motion.
2014
02:59:02.880 --> 02:59:04.680
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): right there isn't that the same thing.
2015
02:59:04.680 --> 02:59:07.950
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): isn't that what we're doing right now
that's why i'm wondering.
2016
02:59:08.280 --> 02:59:10.470
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Like that's why I don't understand.
2017
02:59:11.280 --> 02:59:11.700
exist.
2018
02:59:14.010 --> 02:59:28.020
T'Shailyn Harrington: And Eleanor correct me if i'm wrong is there even a
need for there to be a motion for new leadership is the, the question was
for me I don't know what.
2019
02:59:28.140 --> 02:59:29.940
Eleanor Dilkes: I don't know what that motions.
2020
02:59:30.060 --> 02:59:31.050
Raneem Hamad: Your notion with me.
2021
02:59:31.200 --> 02:59:32.280
Raneem Hamad: A second already.
2022
02:59:32.340 --> 02:59:33.660
Eleanor Dilkes: If I can finish, please.
2023
02:59:34.710 --> 02:59:53.250
Eleanor Dilkes: The motion for new I don't know what that means, you need
to be specific, you need to say, for instance, we move to remove the vice
chair and nominee, and then, if that passes, then you can vote, you can
make a motion to.
2024
02:59:54.270 --> 02:59:58.710
Eleanor Dilkes: To put a new chair in place and a new Vice chair in
place.
2025
02:59:59.400 --> 03:00:00.330
Eleanor Dilkes: I have Members.
2026
03:00:00.810 --> 03:00:11.610
Raneem Hamad: In with motion means so we can we can I feel like we can
proceed with the motion if a majority of the Members on this Commission
understand what the motion means and there's emotion to.
2027
03:00:13.230 --> 03:00:13.650
T'Shailyn Harrington: Second.
2028
03:00:14.700 --> 03:00:16.170
Commissioner Tony Currin: I don't understand what the emotion.
2029
03:00:16.170 --> 03:00:16.560
Commissioner Tony Currin: man.
2030
03:00:16.950 --> 03:00:19.470
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Let me make sure you understand, with
emotion means because.
2031
03:00:19.470 --> 03:00:20.220
Frankly.
2032
03:00:22.380 --> 03:00:22.980
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I.
2033
03:00:23.910 --> 03:00:28.260
Raneem Hamad: is to vote for new leadership and that motion has been
seconded so.
2034
03:00:28.530 --> 03:00:29.790
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): But new leadership.
2035
03:00:29.880 --> 03:00:32.790
Raneem Hamad: Does that vote for a new chair.
2036
03:00:33.000 --> 03:00:35.070
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): New chair new Vice chair.
2037
03:00:35.520 --> 03:00:35.880
Commissioner Tony Currin: of a new.
2038
03:00:36.660 --> 03:00:38.430
Commissioner Tony Currin: New revenue share.
2039
03:00:39.030 --> 03:00:40.470
that's what i'm wondering.
2040
03:00:42.540 --> 03:00:45.150
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Are we, what are we voting for overall.
2041
03:00:45.180 --> 03:00:49.560
Mohamed Traore: Nobody freaking know let the originator of the motion
clarify their motion.
2042
03:00:49.650 --> 03:00:53.970
Raneem Hamad: Before we continue, we are voting for a chair, that is not
the current vice chair.
2043
03:00:54.390 --> 03:00:55.800
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Okay, and then are rebuilding.
2044
03:00:56.820 --> 03:01:04.140
Raneem Hamad: Nice chair, because we get to choose to vote and nominate
people, since there are no bylaws that we have already accepted.
2045
03:01:04.260 --> 03:01:04.440
We.
2046
03:01:06.780 --> 03:01:11.940
Mohamed Traore: Just have emotion that is very clear and explicit and
exactly.
2047
03:01:14.700 --> 03:01:16.320
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): we're gonna have to have a discussion
about.
2048
03:01:16.320 --> 03:01:18.270
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): This Eric doesn't understand why.
2049
03:01:18.420 --> 03:01:18.990
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): And Tony.
2050
03:01:19.050 --> 03:01:20.100
Her and doesn't understand.
2051
03:01:21.510 --> 03:01:22.260
Eric Harris: understand why.
2052
03:01:22.350 --> 03:01:27.150
Eric Harris: that's what it seems like leave me out of you don't
understand why are we, including what.
2053
03:01:29.970 --> 03:01:31.350
Jesse Case: The Commission that really.
2054
03:01:31.350 --> 03:01:31.950
T'Shailyn Harrington: Good work.
2055
03:01:31.980 --> 03:01:36.930
Jesse Case: And then there's been some conflict, which is part of this
Commission because it's very uncomfortable everything.
2056
03:01:37.350 --> 03:01:39.090
Jesse Case: But now we have a new chair and I.
2057
03:01:39.180 --> 03:01:39.810
Jesse Case: You may want to.
2058
03:01:42.120 --> 03:01:42.480
Raneem Hamad: know.
2059
03:01:43.320 --> 03:01:45.480
Raneem Hamad: Mel This is my fault i'll clarify this.
2060
03:01:45.510 --> 03:01:48.390
Raneem Hamad: i'll clarify this, and so again, this is me rename.
2061
03:01:48.780 --> 03:01:50.370
Raneem Hamad: I am making emotion to.
2062
03:01:50.370 --> 03:01:50.970
T'Shailyn Harrington: Remove.
2063
03:01:51.000 --> 03:01:52.170
Raneem Hamad: The current vice chair.
2064
03:01:52.350 --> 03:01:54.600
Raneem Hamad: And to vote for new leadership and to be.
2065
03:01:54.630 --> 03:01:56.910
Raneem Hamad: able to nominate new leadership and vote on it.
2066
03:01:57.150 --> 03:01:57.330
Raneem Hamad: On.
2067
03:01:57.540 --> 03:01:58.950
T'Shailyn Harrington: On that new leadership tonight.
2068
03:02:01.500 --> 03:02:05.730
T'Shailyn Harrington: And they'll do second level murder motion I second
that motion.
2069
03:02:08.190 --> 03:02:10.350
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Are we gonna nominate people are we
gonna i'm.
2070
03:02:10.680 --> 03:02:13.170
Raneem Hamad: Fine nominate Mohammed, to be the new chair.
2071
03:02:13.440 --> 03:02:15.930
Commissioner Tony Currin: Oh wait a minute, nobody had a vote yeah.
2072
03:02:18.480 --> 03:02:21.600
Eleanor Dilkes: let's let's vote on the motion that is on the floor.
2073
03:02:23.820 --> 03:02:24.540
Stefanie Bowers: Okay, so.
2074
03:02:24.660 --> 03:02:29.670
Stefanie Bowers: i'll i'll just do roll call here so Commissioner Ali.
2075
03:02:30.450 --> 03:02:32.970
Stefanie Bowers: Yes, Commissioner, current.
2076
03:02:33.720 --> 03:02:34.500
know.
2077
03:02:37.410 --> 03:02:38.670
Stefanie Bowers: Vice chair harrington.
2078
03:02:39.870 --> 03:02:40.470
T'Shailyn Harrington: No.
2079
03:02:42.240 --> 03:02:43.800
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner Navarro Jackson.
2080
03:02:44.640 --> 03:02:45.240
Yes.
2081
03:02:46.710 --> 03:02:47.670
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner porter.
2082
03:02:48.090 --> 03:02:48.630
know.
2083
03:02:51.450 --> 03:02:52.470
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner Hammad.
2084
03:02:53.100 --> 03:02:53.940
Stefanie Bowers: Yes.
2085
03:02:54.720 --> 03:02:56.850
Eric Harris: Commissioner Harris, yes.
2086
03:03:00.600 --> 03:03:02.160
Stefanie Bowers: A Commissioner Rivera.
2087
03:03:02.760 --> 03:03:05.370
Stefanie Bowers: Yes, and commissioning are.
2088
03:03:05.520 --> 03:03:06.270
True you're right.
2089
03:03:07.290 --> 03:03:07.710
Mohamed Traore: Yes.
2090
03:03:10.890 --> 03:03:17.580
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): i'm sorry, Commissioner Harris, I was
not trying to get frustrated or anything I just was very confused at.
2091
03:03:17.760 --> 03:03:18.660
what's needed.
2092
03:03:19.680 --> 03:03:21.180
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): For so I apologize.
2093
03:03:21.360 --> 03:03:22.410
Eric Harris: apology is not needed.
2094
03:03:23.070 --> 03:03:25.740
Raneem Hamad: I would like to nominate Muhammad as the new share.
2095
03:03:26.940 --> 03:03:29.520
T'Shailyn Harrington: I would like to see myself as a new chair.
2096
03:03:31.890 --> 03:03:32.370
Commissioner Tony Currin: awesome.
2097
03:03:33.150 --> 03:03:33.780
Commissioner Tony Currin: I would like to.
2098
03:03:34.170 --> 03:03:36.150
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): meet Mohamed as the new chair.
2099
03:03:37.980 --> 03:03:38.430
Raneem Hamad: Second.
2100
03:03:41.130 --> 03:03:50.460
Stefanie Bowers: Okay, so just to clarify I had Commissioner him on
making that motion, and then it sounded like Commissioner i'll leave made
the same motion and Commissioner Ahmad.
2101
03:03:50.460 --> 03:03:50.850
T'Shailyn Harrington: Second.
2102
03:03:51.120 --> 03:03:52.950
Raneem Hamad: So well received my original one.
2103
03:03:53.160 --> 03:03:53.910
Stefanie Bowers: Thank you, I was.
2104
03:03:57.120 --> 03:04:03.060
Commissioner Tony Currin: I, I would like to suck at the motion of shale
and Harrison.
2105
03:04:05.940 --> 03:04:07.350
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): or Mohammed for chair.
2106
03:04:08.400 --> 03:04:08.910
Eleanor Dilkes: Okay.
2107
03:04:09.510 --> 03:04:11.340
Eleanor Dilkes: we're gonna go to nominations.
2108
03:04:11.850 --> 03:04:14.850
Eleanor Dilkes: And then I think you just get the nominations.
2109
03:04:14.850 --> 03:04:15.720
T'Shailyn Harrington: On the floor.
2110
03:04:16.980 --> 03:04:17.490
And then you.
2111
03:04:18.510 --> 03:04:19.440
T'Shailyn Harrington: Then you vote.
2112
03:04:19.740 --> 03:04:24.870
Eleanor Dilkes: On each each person, and the first gets a majority is
your chair.
2113
03:04:25.410 --> 03:04:27.540
Eleanor Dilkes: yeah a nomination does not need a.
2114
03:04:27.540 --> 03:04:28.920
Raneem Hamad: Second, one first.
2115
03:04:28.980 --> 03:04:31.830
T'Shailyn Harrington: So I went first my nomination went first so.
2116
03:04:31.860 --> 03:04:38.100
Eleanor Dilkes: What does that mean that will just okay so trey already
has been nominated, are there any other nominations.
2117
03:04:38.220 --> 03:04:39.120
harrington.
2118
03:04:41.460 --> 03:04:42.810
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): To stay on harrington.
2119
03:04:44.160 --> 03:04:46.170
Eleanor Dilkes: Okay, any other nominations.
2120
03:04:51.930 --> 03:04:58.830
Eleanor Dilkes: Okay, and then then we'll close nominations and will
vote.
2121
03:05:01.290 --> 03:05:07.380
Eleanor Dilkes: So you're voting on whether to elect Mohammed trey ori as
your new chair.
2122
03:05:07.860 --> 03:05:08.430
Yes.
2123
03:05:09.660 --> 03:05:10.110
Stefanie Bowers: Okay.
2124
03:05:12.630 --> 03:05:13.830
Stefanie Bowers: Is there any discussion or.
2125
03:05:13.830 --> 03:05:14.670
Stefanie Bowers: Just do roll call.
2126
03:05:16.860 --> 03:05:17.280
Stefanie Bowers: Okay.
2127
03:05:17.370 --> 03:05:18.690
T'Shailyn Harrington: i'll proceed with all.
2128
03:05:19.740 --> 03:05:22.230
T'Shailyn Harrington: yeah okay um.
2129
03:05:22.320 --> 03:05:23.760
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner Ali.
2130
03:05:24.540 --> 03:05:25.050
Yes.
2131
03:05:26.280 --> 03:05:27.210
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner current.
2132
03:05:28.890 --> 03:05:29.370
Commissioner Tony Currin: know.
2133
03:05:32.460 --> 03:05:33.660
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner harrington.
2134
03:05:35.160 --> 03:05:35.490
T'Shailyn Harrington: Not.
2135
03:05:37.200 --> 03:05:38.700
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner Navarro Jackson.
2136
03:05:39.960 --> 03:05:40.560
Commissioner Navarre-Jackson: Yes.
2137
03:05:43.320 --> 03:05:44.400
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner porter.
2138
03:05:46.320 --> 03:05:47.220
Royceann Porter: Will we will know.
2139
03:05:47.790 --> 03:05:48.750
Stefanie Bowers: On on.
2140
03:05:48.870 --> 03:05:50.370
Whether or not to.
2141
03:05:51.570 --> 03:05:54.360
Stefanie Bowers: appoint Commissioners nori as the new chair.
2142
03:05:54.570 --> 03:05:54.960
yeah.
2143
03:05:56.430 --> 03:05:57.720
Royceann Porter: No okay.
2144
03:05:58.140 --> 03:06:00.240
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner Ahmad.
2145
03:06:00.630 --> 03:06:01.380
Yes.
2146
03:06:06.210 --> 03:06:07.080
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner.
2147
03:06:07.110 --> 03:06:08.730
T'Shailyn Harrington: Harris, yes.
2148
03:06:10.650 --> 03:06:11.340
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): laughing.
2149
03:06:11.400 --> 03:06:12.900
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner Rivera.
2150
03:06:22.290 --> 03:06:24.060
T'Shailyn Harrington: and Commissioner Troy.
2151
03:06:25.950 --> 03:06:26.370
Mohamed Traore: Yes.
2152
03:06:32.940 --> 03:06:35.520
Stefanie Bowers: Okay, so I have that passing 623.
2153
03:06:36.270 --> 03:06:38.730
Raneem Hamad: I would like to nominate Commissioner Ali as vice.
2154
03:06:38.730 --> 03:06:39.120
chair.
2155
03:06:45.120 --> 03:06:49.200
Stefanie Bowers: Okay, is further discussion, if not, I will take roll
call.
2156
03:06:50.580 --> 03:06:52.650
Eleanor Dilkes: Are there any other nominations for vice.
2157
03:06:52.650 --> 03:06:53.040
chair.
2158
03:06:56.670 --> 03:06:59.490
Eleanor Dilkes: Now okay go ahead with roll call stephanie.
2159
03:07:00.090 --> 03:07:01.230
Stefanie Bowers: Okay, Commissioner Ali.
2160
03:07:02.190 --> 03:07:02.850
Yes.
2161
03:07:04.200 --> 03:07:05.160
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner current.
2162
03:07:06.570 --> 03:07:07.050
Commissioner Tony Currin: know.
2163
03:07:08.850 --> 03:07:09.990
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner harrington.
2164
03:07:11.190 --> 03:07:11.580
T'Shailyn Harrington: nope.
2165
03:07:13.530 --> 03:07:15.150
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner and abroad Jackson.
2166
03:07:16.230 --> 03:07:16.770
T'Shailyn Harrington: Yes.
2167
03:07:19.200 --> 03:07:20.190
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner porter.
2168
03:07:21.120 --> 03:07:21.990
T'Shailyn Harrington: Well we've all know.
2169
03:07:25.020 --> 03:07:26.040
Stefanie Bowers: Who is willing to.
2170
03:07:26.670 --> 03:07:27.030
Let.
2171
03:07:28.080 --> 03:07:28.170
T'Shailyn Harrington: me.
2172
03:07:29.520 --> 03:07:29.970
Royceann Porter: know.
2173
03:07:32.790 --> 03:07:35.430
Stefanie Bowers: Okay i'm Commissioner hamada.
2174
03:07:36.540 --> 03:07:37.290
Raneem Hamad: Yes.
2175
03:07:39.660 --> 03:07:40.830
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner Harris.
2176
03:07:41.130 --> 03:07:41.640
know.
2177
03:07:44.070 --> 03:07:45.000
Stefanie Bowers: mission Rivera.
2178
03:07:46.140 --> 03:07:46.710
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): Yes.
2179
03:07:48.600 --> 03:07:50.160
Stefanie Bowers: and Commissioner treorchy.
2180
03:07:51.510 --> 03:07:56.520
Stefanie Bowers: Yes, Okay, so I have that passing five to four Thank
you.
2181
03:07:58.110 --> 03:08:00.720
Eleanor Dilkes: stephanie Can we just clarify what what.
2182
03:08:05.190 --> 03:08:11.700
Eleanor Dilkes: i'm not sure i've got them the numbers on the the tree or
a vote was it six three or five four.
2183
03:08:14.310 --> 03:08:15.990
Stefanie Bowers: It was six three okay.
2184
03:08:17.280 --> 03:08:20.010
Stefanie Bowers: And the most recent list by four for vice chair.
2185
03:08:28.020 --> 03:08:30.060
Raneem Hamad: Could we please have the public speak know.
2186
03:08:36.780 --> 03:08:38.910
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): as well, maybe amelia you can start.
2187
03:08:42.180 --> 03:08:44.490
Emilia Roberts: To say congrats to chair.
2188
03:08:45.000 --> 03:08:49.590
Emilia Roberts: trailer and vice chair, I know I hate to kind of
backtrack.
2189
03:08:49.590 --> 03:08:51.030
Emilia Roberts: But public Columbia was in a route.
2190
03:08:51.810 --> 03:08:57.900
Emilia Roberts: And kind of the back and forth was happening, but this
doesn't need any public comment back to me, the main thing that I want
to.
2191
03:08:57.900 --> 03:08:58.980
T'Shailyn Harrington: say is that.
2192
03:08:59.670 --> 03:09:01.620
Emilia Roberts: The whole point why we didn't need.
2193
03:09:01.710 --> 03:09:02.220
Emilia Roberts: Your.
2194
03:09:02.250 --> 03:09:03.390
T'Shailyn Harrington: own voice since.
2195
03:09:03.870 --> 03:09:05.520
Emilia Roberts: rebuttal That is because the.
2196
03:09:05.520 --> 03:09:06.690
Emilia Roberts: call should have never had.
2197
03:09:08.550 --> 03:09:18.870
Emilia Roberts: It should have never happened, it was a complete
unprofessional breach of privacy and just unacceptable to begin with,
this is something that I was not aware happened at all so i'm just not
hearing about it.
2198
03:09:19.440 --> 03:09:26.400
Emilia Roberts: But that's really, the main thing I want to say it's yeah
it doesn't really matter what happened after the fact, or during the call
the call should never have been made.
2199
03:09:28.170 --> 03:09:36.900
Emilia Roberts: And then the other thing I was kind of going to i'll just
do anyways I wasn't gonna come back and share why I didn't want while I
wanted a new chair.
2200
03:09:37.560 --> 03:09:46.170
Emilia Roberts: But I think the biggest thing for me was during or that I
would like to second when Nicholas said about that being true because I
was President at that City Council meeting.
2201
03:09:46.560 --> 03:09:59.820
Emilia Roberts: And part of what her response was was disrespecting and
response to what I had said also prior to Nicholas or after but what they
had told so me is, I think it was Commissioner Harris and.
2202
03:10:01.170 --> 03:10:08.370
Emilia Roberts: Commissioner resend is they were like you know come to
tlc meetings come talk come here I mean come talk with us because.
2203
03:10:09.360 --> 03:10:25.920
Emilia Roberts: Clearly you're I mean the City Council meetings weren't
the right place to be kind of bringing up the tlc there which I
completely agreed so then when I did come to the tier see meeting both
meetings I had been present for I was completely disrespected by not
only.
2204
03:10:27.090 --> 03:10:41.670
Emilia Roberts: Commissioners, but also the public and whoever let the
public disrespect me, you know what I mean but that's kind of just all I
wanted to say, and I would yeah like to move forward forward from this
and congratulate the new chair and vice chair, once again, thank you.
2205
03:10:59.400 --> 03:11:02.760
Oliver Weilein: Hello i'm Oliver here again um.
2206
03:11:03.840 --> 03:11:04.410
Oliver Weilein: I.
2207
03:11:05.880 --> 03:11:10.260
Oliver Weilein: I just wanted to say that i'm really happy to see and i'm
really proud of.
2208
03:11:11.970 --> 03:11:20.040
Oliver Weilein: You know all the Commissioners who have, in the face of
weird threats in the face of the little man in the face of.
2209
03:11:21.330 --> 03:11:29.520
Oliver Weilein: You know, trying to desperately claw their ways out of
business as usual and facing all the usual roadblocks that happened.
2210
03:11:31.860 --> 03:11:36.030
Oliver Weilein: I would just like to you know I mean this, I would just
like to.
2211
03:11:36.570 --> 03:11:51.990
Oliver Weilein: You know, congratulate you on actually doing it not being
intimidated, not being threatened essentially by people literally
screaming at you i'm unable to handle criticism um I think that you did
the right thing and I just wanted to say that, thank you very much.
2212
03:11:55.350 --> 03:12:01.380
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): Thank you very much i'm invite ma T
know want to mispronounce your name but God is because.
2213
03:12:01.680 --> 03:12:04.590
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): enjoy Joe we see you to just know that
we see.
2214
03:12:08.130 --> 03:12:09.540
Commissioner Tony Currin: Why, you can.
2215
03:12:09.630 --> 03:12:17.370
Mat? Muhammad: write anyways um yes Well, my name is Mateo actually do
appreciate that spelling the name and just letting me.
2216
03:12:20.370 --> 03:12:29.970
Mat? Muhammad: letting me pronounce that he am they pronouns muscle the
field operations director for des moines blm Moscow a close friend and
colleague to Jane and Cabo.
2217
03:12:30.360 --> 03:12:39.090
Mat? Muhammad: And I was also, I believe I was either at urban dreams,
when this call happened or very shortly after I think I was one of the
first people that Jen and talk to.
2218
03:12:39.330 --> 03:12:52.860
Mat? Muhammad: and on, I want to say that I will first, before I get into
this congratulations to ifr congratulations to all their supporters
congratulations to everybody who is fighting for real freedom for real
abolition, for the real.
2219
03:12:53.760 --> 03:13:03.150
Mat? Muhammad: dismantling of violent fastest deceptive systems that's
what we're talking about we're talking about dismantling of war machine
right now and.
2220
03:13:03.900 --> 03:13:08.160
Mat? Muhammad: When we're talking about dismantling that war machine
intimidation is part of that machine.
2221
03:13:09.000 --> 03:13:22.170
Mat? Muhammad: Bullying is part of that machine harassment is part of
that machine so not only did y'all stand up to policing by creating this
Commission and fighting to see it through, but you you stood up to
policing through the harassment as well, that is, harassment.
2222
03:13:23.160 --> 03:13:27.420
Mat? Muhammad: And I just want to shortly briefly give my testimony as
to.
2223
03:13:28.140 --> 03:13:38.550
Mat? Muhammad: The similar harassment, that I faced not from people
defending the police state in iowa city, but the police state itself, I
like to remind everybody that I personally was victimized.
2224
03:13:39.030 --> 03:13:50.250
Mat? Muhammad: By the ui PD I cpd the state patrol they spied on me and
targeted me was watching me through surveillance cameras was watching me
through tat traffic lights.
2225
03:13:50.700 --> 03:14:00.780
Mat? Muhammad: Was tracking my phone in trapped in cornered me as if I
was an animal and arrested me in trumped up charges that have now been
dropped on nine felony charges that have now been dropped.
2226
03:14:01.710 --> 03:14:08.790
Mat? Muhammad: And I faced six more unjust misdemeanors, I believe, and
so I want to thank everybody here that's fighting for me that's fighting.
2227
03:14:10.170 --> 03:14:20.310
Mat? Muhammad: to write the narrative that people tried to build, which
is that activists who do police work against BAE Systems are criminals
are.
2228
03:14:20.820 --> 03:14:32.250
Mat? Muhammad: You know misbehave are agitators are up at all of those
things that Royce and tried to put on my friend jalen that's not us
that's the police and so thank you for everyone that's.
2229
03:14:32.280 --> 03:14:33.270
Mat? Muhammad: Fighting real fight.
2230
03:14:36.960 --> 03:14:42.870
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I see Joe your can Joe go before the J
en he had his hand up first.
2231
03:14:44.250 --> 03:14:47.040
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): So whenever you get a chance to unmute
yourself Joe.
2232
03:14:56.970 --> 03:14:57.390
Joe Coulter: Think.
2233
03:14:58.650 --> 03:14:58.920
Nicholas Theisen: you're.
2234
03:14:59.760 --> 03:15:05.940
Joe Coulter: doing well, but I want all of you to think of each other.
2235
03:15:07.770 --> 03:15:09.030
Joe Coulter: To get together.
2236
03:15:10.110 --> 03:15:12.180
Joe Coulter: and work together.
2237
03:15:14.820 --> 03:15:24.180
Joe Coulter: Fighting amongst yourselves about leadership and other
things is not productive it doesn't work.
2238
03:15:25.320 --> 03:15:30.330
Joe Coulter: Listen to Jesse case he knows how to do these things.
2239
03:15:32.010 --> 03:15:44.610
Joe Coulter: I want you to go forward and to come out with real
accomplished months, and not just be nothing.
2240
03:15:45.810 --> 03:15:54.540
Joe Coulter: which you risk with your controversies and contradicting
each other and your other.
2241
03:15:55.590 --> 03:15:56.460
Joe Coulter: kinds of.
2242
03:15:57.750 --> 03:16:16.860
Joe Coulter: mannerisms those aren't productive you've got to work
together for the city of iowa city and the issues that you have before
you please do this by mommy nah he walked me down.
2243
03:16:18.030 --> 03:16:20.460
Joe Coulter: Later, again, I will see you.
2244
03:16:30.060 --> 03:16:36.120
lujayn h: hi everyone, my name is eugene kind of going off what
everybody's been saying, I think that.
2245
03:16:36.840 --> 03:16:41.370
lujayn h: all the work he has been putting in especially you know the
young folk we feel like we've been going through a lot of.
2246
03:16:41.910 --> 03:16:48.900
lujayn h: roadblocks and fishing, a lot of issues here and there, and not
only from the system itself, but from you know I feel like the people
who.
2247
03:16:49.530 --> 03:16:57.390
lujayn h: We rely on for support and for guidance, or whatever, but um I
was fun to is to know that you're seeing your head you're like supported
were behind you all of that.
2248
03:16:57.780 --> 03:17:07.890
lujayn h: I also want to really create a stark difference between
accountability and like assassination of character or slander defamation,
or whatever you want to call it.
2249
03:17:08.220 --> 03:17:23.670
lujayn h: You know, I think that it's important that we hold the people
in our Community, who have power accountable when they are wrong, and I
think it's completely wrong to invalidate the people who were you know
victimized by by the actions of these people in power, and I think it's
kind of.
2250
03:17:25.140 --> 03:17:33.780
lujayn h: backwards and kind of undoes everything that we're doing when
we try to intimidate people into not speaking up and we try to invalidate
what others have been saying when we try to.
2251
03:17:34.770 --> 03:17:44.670
lujayn h: belittle and demean the work of others, you know we're all like
trying to get to this thing goal, but I really, really do want to
appreciate and like really emphasize that.
2252
03:17:47.070 --> 03:17:54.120
lujayn h: We really do need to listen to a lot of people that we try to
like overlook a lot of the young people in the Community, you know, and I
do.
2253
03:17:54.510 --> 03:18:02.400
lujayn h: appreciate and respect and all of that all of the older folks
is our guidance, but like this movement, as has been said, multiple times
before, was kind of.
2254
03:18:02.820 --> 03:18:12.870
lujayn h: uprooted and started, because if ours work last year, a little
bit over a year ago, or whatever, so I feel like we need to pay respect
and come back to that and realize that we're all really.
2255
03:18:13.890 --> 03:18:24.660
lujayn h: Hopefully, trying to get to the same point, and yeah I just
thought really stark difference between accountability and like
defamation of character, I think that we really needed to put that out
there, I think we needed to hold.
2256
03:18:26.010 --> 03:18:29.910
lujayn h: People in our Community accountable, but yeah.
2257
03:18:31.080 --> 03:18:42.270
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Children just seen, and I appreciate, I
appreciate your public comment and Commissioner Rivera Okay, if I have
angie speak before you do.
2258
03:18:43.530 --> 03:18:46.380
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Okay Andy do you want to go ahead and
unmute yourself.
2259
03:18:47.370 --> 03:19:02.040
Angelina Rae Jordan: Can you guys hear me yes okay so again I just I want
to take a breath and I want to breathe with you guys here i'm still so
excited for this tlc i'm still so appreciative of you guys stepping into
this vulnerable space.
2260
03:19:03.990 --> 03:19:09.450
Angelina Rae Jordan: And i'm oftentimes confused, but I like to take a
minute and that confusion, because it can help give me light.
2261
03:19:11.070 --> 03:19:12.480
Angelina Rae Jordan: So I just I just wanna I just want to.
2262
03:19:14.490 --> 03:19:16.290
Angelina Rae Jordan: have exactly what I say, but I.
2263
03:19:17.880 --> 03:19:26.340
Angelina Rae Jordan: feel like there are pieces that just don't make the
space, safe and I think you guys are moving towards a safe space, which
is really exciting, I also think that.
2264
03:19:26.850 --> 03:19:34.860
Angelina Rae Jordan: For the work that y'all are wanting to get done, the
first part of this meeting was really exciting to see you guys, creating
a safe space, I just want to really encourage that.
2265
03:19:35.160 --> 03:19:53.880
Angelina Rae Jordan: and new leadership, I hope that you take lessons and
learn because you're still on the same team as those that were in former
leadership I just also want to highlight and I know, everybody here knows
this from firsthand experience, but other thing, whether it's age
division status.
2266
03:19:55.530 --> 03:20:07.560
Angelina Rae Jordan: You know those who speak out more than those who
don't you know just those divisions, those are so dangerous that leads us
away from collaboration and that's where our powers that's where your
powers so.
2267
03:20:08.370 --> 03:20:26.790
Angelina Rae Jordan: The visions are out there disagreement is out there
and that's good but for a safe space to exist, you got to put forth a lot
of effort to create and bring in those that are farther out from the
peripheries, for whatever reason, so I just I just want to again
encourage you guys.
2268
03:20:28.200 --> 03:20:38.280
Angelina Rae Jordan: To create the safe space and to protect and maintain
it so that includes everyone includes everyone, and like I said before, I
don't know exactly what i'm trying to say here but.
2269
03:20:38.880 --> 03:20:56.340
Angelina Rae Jordan: i'm ready on deck i'm waiting there's a lot of us
waiting to do a lot of the work, to put it off your shoulders to put it
back on our shoulders, so I think it's it is we're ready on deck here in
the public we're ready, thank you, thank you angie appreciate it.
2270
03:20:58.380 --> 03:21:12.960
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): um Okay, do we since Kevin has something
to say there's nobody else from the public, he wants to speak on can we
move on to the next agenda item that would be like Commissioner
announcements, then.
2271
03:21:14.880 --> 03:21:17.490
Mohamed Traore: feel comfortable doing that I can.
2272
03:21:19.050 --> 03:21:22.380
Mohamed Traore: um first we'll go with Commissioner Rivera see.
2273
03:21:23.430 --> 03:21:27.330
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): yeah and it's also there's a
correspondence before, Commissioner, and I know.
2274
03:21:27.360 --> 03:21:30.990
Mohamed Traore: For sure yeah correspondence so agenda item number 11.
2275
03:21:32.370 --> 03:21:36.150
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): So before that yeah conditioner very do
you want to go ahead and chat.
2276
03:21:37.620 --> 03:21:45.150
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): I think this is highly just echoing
what angie had to say and I appreciate all the comments so thus far Thank
you everyone i'm combo.
2277
03:21:45.600 --> 03:21:54.450
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): i'd like to start by thanking each of
my fellow Commissioners for just continuing to stay engaged in the work
of this Commission, despite how hard it has been.
2278
03:21:54.900 --> 03:22:02.430
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): i'm also really grateful for the
members of the public, for showing up their attention and their
contributions that our meetings, thus far.
2279
03:22:02.820 --> 03:22:10.320
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): i'm still very, very excited to see
what work this Commission will be able to carry out in the next year in
some.
2280
03:22:11.010 --> 03:22:19.740
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): And I remain dedicated to my position
that the at the core of what we do, it has to be informed by the voices
of the most marginalized in our Community.
2281
03:22:20.490 --> 03:22:33.210
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): And our mission statement we express
that we are committed to Community centered truth telling processes and
we needed to establish this regular meeting in any other events we host
has a safe space.
2282
03:22:33.750 --> 03:22:42.450
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): For individuals in our Community, to
bring up their concerns without fear that they will be chastised
dismissed or operated by anyone on this Commission or any other members
of the public.
2283
03:22:43.290 --> 03:22:53.130
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): During our special meeting earlier
this week and tonight, members of the public express their concerns that
this Commission was ignoring the activism and wisdom of older voices in
our Community.
2284
03:22:54.000 --> 03:23:00.210
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): I hope that they do not take my
position on this matter of new leadership as a dismissal of their
concerns.
2285
03:23:00.540 --> 03:23:10.290
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): My desire for new leadership on on
this Commission was again directly related to my commitment to providing
a safe space i'm inviting all marginalized voices to be heard.
2286
03:23:10.920 --> 03:23:21.990
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): This Commission has plenty of work to
do to reconcile itself to the members of to you with members of the
public who have already felt ostracized whether young or old.
2287
03:23:22.590 --> 03:23:32.790
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): Critical or encouraging hopeful or
hurt it's going to be really hard for us, I think, but that's Okay,
because I still think that we can get there.
2288
03:23:33.120 --> 03:23:43.050
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): And it starts with making sure that
you know we we move forward and we continue to work at this and improve
and that that's you guys sharpening us as we move forward.
2289
03:23:44.190 --> 03:23:46.770
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): So our work continues, thank you and I
yield the floor.
2290
03:23:48.480 --> 03:23:51.060
Mohamed Traore: i'm Commissioner Ahmad before you continue.
2291
03:23:51.090 --> 03:23:57.270
Mohamed Traore: yeah I can wait for announcement with with your part yeah
let's go move on our agenda item number 11 correspondence, please.
2292
03:24:02.190 --> 03:24:04.260
Stefanie Bowers: I have the first correspondence on the screen.
2293
03:24:04.590 --> 03:24:06.540
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): yeah I was just gonna say is that.
2294
03:24:09.420 --> 03:24:11.130
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): worth the duties so.
2295
03:24:12.660 --> 03:24:14.670
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): This looks like it's a letter.
2296
03:24:15.990 --> 03:24:25.710
Mohamed Traore: Losses of angels native people in this region, be
acknowledged i'm hopeful, the Commission knowledge knowledge to this
issue in some way oh stephanie would you just like us to read it aloud
for everyone here or.
2297
03:24:27.060 --> 03:24:37.500
Stefanie Bowers: I mean I don't think you necessarily need to read it
aloud I think it's whether or not you want to have any you know
discussion in terms of the the correspondence in any follow up.
2298
03:24:37.890 --> 03:24:45.420
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I think we should discuss this Mohammed
and I I believe you'd probably agree with me, I think that it is
important.
2299
03:24:45.960 --> 03:24:53.820
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): That we acknowledge the losses of the
native peoples in this region, and I know that that's something Cabo.
2300
03:24:54.540 --> 03:25:05.010
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): has been extremely passionate about and
like well i'm you know, probably a little bit embarrassed to admit this I
don't have that much knowledge, so if Kevin.
2301
03:25:05.850 --> 03:25:20.040
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Has any more knowledge or if someone
else on the Commission has more knowledge on this type of correspondence
I would love to hear from you and learn more from you just because I
don't think that i'm probably the best person to speak on.
2302
03:25:21.630 --> 03:25:25.980
Stefanie Bowers: It and just to further clarify what I meant was whether
or not.
2303
03:25:30.240 --> 03:25:31.260
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): You muted yourself.
2304
03:25:31.350 --> 03:25:32.640
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): you've muted yourself.
2305
03:25:38.610 --> 03:25:51.000
Stefanie Bowers: Oh sorry Okay, so I mean if you want to further discuss
this, then it probably needs to be voted on and placed on an agenda for
future meeting and there's correspondence, you want to discuss in further
detail than then.
2306
03:25:51.000 --> 03:25:58.560
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Actually yeah yeah I think there might
be I know Cabo I don't know if this speaks to you if you'd like.
2307
03:25:58.710 --> 03:25:59.250
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): I can just.
2308
03:25:59.340 --> 03:26:00.690
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): I can just speak in general.
2309
03:26:00.720 --> 03:26:10.020
Mohamed Traore: generalities, I will not continue, can we proceed with
the with the established procedure earlier of having the public speak
first.
2310
03:26:15.810 --> 03:26:19.320
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): It looks like it's amelia has something
to say about this.
2311
03:26:20.880 --> 03:26:21.480
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): amelia.
2312
03:26:22.320 --> 03:26:30.960
Emilia Roberts: hi if it's Okay, I did it after like like later on, so if
it's Okay, I can make a comment after Michelle Rivera speaks I would love
to hear it, what do you say.
2313
03:26:31.590 --> 03:26:33.180
Emilia Roberts: Okay, thank you.
2314
03:26:37.290 --> 03:26:38.310
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): St joe's hand up.
2315
03:26:40.260 --> 03:26:41.430
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Joe.
2316
03:26:43.530 --> 03:26:46.710
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Not me mute yourself and give us a
little yeah.
2317
03:26:48.810 --> 03:26:50.460
Joe Coulter: I am native.
2318
03:26:52.800 --> 03:26:57.480
Joe Coulter: belong to the citizen pot of water me nation.
2319
03:26:58.680 --> 03:27:11.040
Joe Coulter: Which is located in Oklahoma and I strongly endorse the land
acknowledgement, which involves many, many tribes.
2320
03:27:12.960 --> 03:27:15.750
Joe Coulter: That have been here in iowa.
2321
03:27:16.560 --> 03:27:16.950
yeah.
2322
03:27:18.690 --> 03:27:29.070
Joe Coulter: Mr Rivera a member of your Commission knows about this and
can help you in getting to this.
2323
03:27:31.980 --> 03:27:34.080
Joe Coulter: We have, of course, the.
2324
03:27:35.790 --> 03:27:43.650
Joe Coulter: Day, of course, the Apollo me what is my tribe, and the
ojibwe.
2325
03:27:44.910 --> 03:27:45.390
Joe Coulter: The.
2326
03:27:49.200 --> 03:27:49.890
Joe Coulter: The.
2327
03:27:51.150 --> 03:27:55.860
Joe Coulter: Many tribes of the sioux nation, the.
2328
03:27:57.180 --> 03:28:02.370
Joe Coulter: lakota Dakota and love not coder and.
2329
03:28:03.510 --> 03:28:13.200
Joe Coulter: The winnebago and many others yeah, of course, the state is
named after the iowa.
2330
03:28:14.610 --> 03:28:15.600
Joe Coulter: And, of course.
2331
03:28:16.710 --> 03:28:23.460
Joe Coulter: they're located down in Kansas right now lance foster knows
much about this.
2332
03:28:25.110 --> 03:28:25.770
Joe Coulter: and
2333
03:28:27.480 --> 03:28:29.370
Joe Coulter: We are many other nations.
2334
03:28:31.770 --> 03:28:51.030
Joe Coulter: Then, that have been occupant survival and it is important
that you recognize the native people and recognize them at the begin
beginning of every session that you have.
2335
03:28:52.230 --> 03:28:56.220
Joe Coulter: To have a brief statement about this, thank you.
2336
03:28:57.660 --> 03:28:58.080
Joe Coulter: mama.
2337
03:28:59.820 --> 03:29:00.300
Joe Coulter: Thank you.
2338
03:29:02.550 --> 03:29:03.150
Mohamed Traore: Thank you so.
2339
03:29:03.600 --> 03:29:04.980
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Thank you so much.
2340
03:29:06.060 --> 03:29:15.210
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): i'm Commissioner Rivera do you want to
speak kind of on on that are in response to like that public comment kind
of.
2341
03:29:15.660 --> 03:29:18.840
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): Not at length, I do hope that we get
to discuss this more at our next.
2342
03:29:19.530 --> 03:29:29.130
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): meeting and I plan to make a motion
for that, I just wanted to point out that there was a link provided by
JESSICA, and you know, in the chat that direct everyone to a really
solid.
2343
03:29:29.850 --> 03:29:38.880
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): Land acknowledgement that was
developed by the native American Council by the University of iowa I do
want to thank the native American council which i'm really helped walk me
through developing.
2344
03:29:40.800 --> 03:29:55.230
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): A customized land acknowledgement that
I thought that we could use for this Commission and that might we might
be able to recommend to other commissions and bodies with this city of
iowa city, I have prepared a document that i've sent in previously.
2345
03:29:57.120 --> 03:30:16.920
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): With the purpose and with with the
land acknowledgement itself, and so I will send that again as
correspondence to our Chair and vice chair and stephanie and I would like
to make a motion for us to add a discussion about lamp acknowledgement
during our next meeting as an agenda item.
2346
03:30:18.510 --> 03:30:19.080
Commissioner Navarre-Jackson: i'd like to.
2347
03:30:26.610 --> 03:30:29.370
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Do was that someone just cut off.
2348
03:30:29.820 --> 03:30:37.680
Eleanor Dilkes: Oh i'm sorry this is Eleanor jokes the city attorney if,
if I can just make a suggestion you might want it, and this is probably
as part of your.
2349
03:30:38.130 --> 03:30:48.120
Eleanor Dilkes: you're thinking about how you're going to conduct
yourselves it really isn't necessary to do a roll call vote on putting
something on the agenda you might want to just establish kick.
2350
03:30:48.420 --> 03:30:48.810
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I would.
2351
03:30:49.050 --> 03:30:51.330
Eleanor Dilkes: If there are three of you or four of you that.
2352
03:30:52.530 --> 03:30:55.260
Eleanor Dilkes: say you want to put something, then you can do that.
2353
03:30:56.040 --> 03:31:06.630
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): So um and going forward, I also wanted
to discuss this and hopefully i'm Commissioner tree or a church, or he
has like the same idea, as I do.
2354
03:31:06.960 --> 03:31:20.790
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): And if there is anything that you want
to add to the agenda, I feel like, if you want to send that to Jesse or
to send that to Mohammed and I um that's fine i'm thinking um.
2355
03:31:21.480 --> 03:31:30.480
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): And we can all talk about this more at
the next meeting, I think that Jesse should just be in charge of like the
correspondence between the tlc.
2356
03:31:30.840 --> 03:31:49.140
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): And we're given him a good amount of
money you know, so we might as well put him give him a little bit of work
to do you know um, so I think that may be going through Jesse I don't
know if it's a good idea to have you send everyone an email, just so that
you have everyone's email um.
2357
03:31:50.460 --> 03:31:53.610
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I just think that if we went through you
that just might be.
2358
03:31:54.420 --> 03:32:06.900
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): kind of like the safest and best way to
make sure that everything's getting put on that needs to that we're
getting you know you can hold us accountable for the things that maybe we
wanted to chat about that you didn't get a chance to.
2359
03:32:09.570 --> 03:32:21.510
Jesse Case: Maybe we're getting stephanie's opinion on this because yeah
you know some things might make sense of flow through me and i'm fine
with everything flowing through me, but the agenda, I think stephanie.
2360
03:32:22.440 --> 03:32:27.690
Jesse Case: It might be more make more sense to have the chair and
stephanie be in charge of the agenda.
2361
03:32:27.870 --> 03:32:42.720
Jesse Case: yeah i'll be glad to play a part in that process if you want
me to but it's going to go through three sets of hands to get to the to
the agendas if it goes through me, but we can, I think, maybe we can talk
offline and.
2362
03:32:42.960 --> 03:32:45.390
Jesse Case: figure out a system to it's gonna work.
2363
03:32:46.110 --> 03:32:58.470
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): yeah that might be a good idea I just I
want to be able to have a process where everyone feels like they're being
heard and the things that they feel like are important to discuss during
these meetings are being discussed.
2364
03:33:00.210 --> 03:33:00.510
By.
2365
03:33:02.010 --> 03:33:02.370
yeah.
2366
03:33:06.870 --> 03:33:09.840
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Jimmy mama do you want to go on to the
next agenda item or.
2367
03:33:11.040 --> 03:33:12.810
Jesse Case: To discuss the corresponding.
2368
03:33:13.470 --> 03:33:13.830
yeah.
2369
03:33:15.270 --> 03:33:22.560
Mohamed Traore: Sorry, one more piece of correspondence and that i'd like
to give amelia the opportunity to continue with her comments from
earlier.
2370
03:33:29.160 --> 03:33:42.570
Mohamed Traore: So this item of correspondence is about the hero that we
had spoken about about not the monday's meeting, but about two weeks
before that, so we had voted on the current.
2371
03:33:44.070 --> 03:33:52.230
Mohamed Traore: Proposals for the murals and, from what I remember it was
pretty close to unanimous that we were okay with how they had currently
looked.
2372
03:33:52.560 --> 03:34:05.850
Mohamed Traore: But it seems like they're looking for feedback from the
Community as well, and if anyone would like to give feedback on this
item, this is, in our current agenda, and you can go to the city privacy
website and the CRC page.
2373
03:34:06.360 --> 03:34:18.960
Mohamed Traore: Go to public space one.com slash oracle's dash ic dash
survey, and please give your give any of your thoughts that you'd like
and post on your social media is if you'd like as well, to see if anyone
else that you know would.
2374
03:34:19.230 --> 03:34:20.790
Mohamed Traore: Like to give their input as well.
2375
03:34:21.060 --> 03:34:30.690
Mohamed Traore: Because we want to make sure that we do respect the
wishes of the people going to this length of putting arrows up in do
truly give them input, so they don't feel like they're just putting
something up.
2376
03:34:31.470 --> 03:34:35.910
Mohamed Traore: Just because a few people said yes, but rather that the
whole community is truly involved in it.
2377
03:34:36.960 --> 03:34:37.350
Mohamed Traore: and
2378
03:34:37.530 --> 03:34:41.100
Royceann Porter: Everybody can respond to that survey.
2379
03:34:43.140 --> 03:34:45.960
Mohamed Traore: Yes, oh yeah no way I understand okay.
2380
03:34:47.430 --> 03:34:51.300
Mohamed Traore: And with that, I would like to give me the opportunity to
speak.
2381
03:34:57.240 --> 03:35:02.970
Emilia Roberts: hi sorry for putting a nickel, I would just like to fully
support everything that Commissioner Rivera.
2382
03:35:03.780 --> 03:35:14.730
Emilia Roberts: said, and the acknowledgement of land and everything like
that that's something that I have in this past year and learned a lot
about and gone really invested in and i'm really, really happy to see
that.
2383
03:35:15.390 --> 03:35:24.960
Emilia Roberts: And that was kind of my idea with like the sustainability
like Subcommittee on bringing in I think like it's called the great plan
society looking into more into really.
2384
03:35:25.830 --> 03:35:35.370
Emilia Roberts: useful in have taught me a lot personally and also just
bring people in to kind of teach us about these things are really
important, I mean there's a.
2385
03:35:37.350 --> 03:35:48.240
Emilia Roberts: New study done among the other horrible things are
happening to our environment here in iowa done showing fertile soil is
gone from midwestern farms, among other things, so.
2386
03:35:48.900 --> 03:35:55.920
Emilia Roberts: that's just kind of all, I was saying, if that were to be
something I would love to see Commissioner Rivera kind of.
2387
03:35:57.300 --> 03:36:07.650
Emilia Roberts: Bring to attention in the subcommittee for sustainability
so in just I think I was city has a huge huge huge huge problem and white
washing climate change here.
2388
03:36:08.370 --> 03:36:19.350
Emilia Roberts: This has been something I feel like growing up that was
like the number one thing that like activists here we're kind of like
doing that was in the light, I mean when Greg I came here over the
summer, a few years ago, I think.
2389
03:36:20.010 --> 03:36:24.720
Emilia Roberts: Just a huge problem, so I think that's something that
could be useful, but thank you.
2390
03:36:27.330 --> 03:36:28.800
Mohamed Traore: Thank you Maya and.
2391
03:36:29.820 --> 03:36:33.690
Mohamed Traore: Does anyone else have anything else and of
correspondence.
2392
03:36:34.740 --> 03:36:49.560
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Just i'm not even and I Eleanor you can
tell me if i'm wrong in this, but if the last public comment or has like
any resources or anything that the TMC could use.
2393
03:36:50.310 --> 03:37:01.500
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): To be more knowledgeable about all of
that stuff please send it to us in an email um I, I would like to be more
knowledgeable about that stuff, I would like to.
2394
03:37:01.920 --> 03:37:18.690
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): um you know, be more aware of what land
i'm using and wetland reusing and I think that it's important to be
respectful of the people who've been here before us, so if you could send
any of that our way we would definitely really appreciate it.
2395
03:37:19.440 --> 03:37:23.910
Mohamed Traore: And as a reminder as well be sure to address the email to
spowers.
2396
03:37:24.180 --> 03:37:25.620
Mohamed Traore: To ensure that we follow.
2397
03:37:25.770 --> 03:37:28.290
Mohamed Traore: Open records requirements.
2398
03:37:29.820 --> 03:37:32.160
Mohamed Traore: And no one has anything else and.
2399
03:37:33.180 --> 03:37:41.220
Mohamed Traore: We can move on to the Commission announcements portion
and Commissioner modest had her hand up for quite some time, so you can
proceed.
2400
03:37:41.700 --> 03:37:46.350
Raneem Hamad: Yes, um, I just wanted to let the public know that.
2401
03:37:47.550 --> 03:37:58.890
Raneem Hamad: From like today onward that we are going as Commissioners
are going to work to do our best to make sure that we are not failing our
mandate with respect to making sure that this Commission is a space
where.
2402
03:38:00.150 --> 03:38:09.240
Raneem Hamad: All participants and victims are heard and are able to be
vulnerable and not fear retaliation in any way.
2403
03:38:10.560 --> 03:38:19.650
Raneem Hamad: We will work to uphold this mandate and make sure that not
only are we maintaining, are we not making a safe space, but also
maintaining the safe space like angie.
2404
03:38:20.130 --> 03:38:26.220
Raneem Hamad: said earlier, and I also wanted my other announcement my
other I guess and that's what I wanted to make is that.
2405
03:38:26.820 --> 03:38:37.410
Raneem Hamad: It is not racist well this, this is a announcement to the
white people of iowa city or any person, that is not black and I was
city, it is not racist to call out black.
2406
03:38:37.770 --> 03:38:51.060
Raneem Hamad: leaders like if someone is a leader and they are not being
held accountable and they are doing something that you know is wrong and
is not fair and it's not just you can call them out, that is not racist.
2407
03:38:51.990 --> 03:38:56.490
Raneem Hamad: Anyone who is in a power position of power can deserves to
be critiqued.
2408
03:38:57.270 --> 03:39:04.860
Raneem Hamad: I don't know why a lot of people think that that's they're
afraid to call out black leaders in the Community, if you think the mayor
is doing something wrong.
2409
03:39:05.310 --> 03:39:15.000
Raneem Hamad: And you don't agree with it, calling them out that's not
racist, if you think i'm doing something wrong as your blood,
Commissioner, and you don't agree with it call me out hold me
accountable.
2410
03:39:15.540 --> 03:39:26.850
Raneem Hamad: that's what that's how we get to true justice and how
that's how we do this collective work, we all have to work to hold each
other accountable, but that was that I just that's all I want to say
thank you.
2411
03:39:30.570 --> 03:39:33.720
Mohamed Traore: i'm Commissioner Ali before you.
2412
03:39:34.830 --> 03:39:40.800
Mohamed Traore: proceed since the two of us have been speaking a lot more
recently, would you be okay with giving Commissioners chance to speak
first.
2413
03:39:41.130 --> 03:39:46.470
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): yeah Of course I think there was no
hairs is probably gonna ECHO on what I have to say, anyway, so.
2414
03:39:50.100 --> 03:40:04.860
Eric Harris: No, no i'm actually something positive so um this past
winter in the past, you know few months they've been going back I streets
and our neighborhoods because snow and is dirt and all type of stuff.
2415
03:40:06.120 --> 03:40:17.820
Eric Harris: I neighborhoods need to be cleaned up so, especially when
all the snow melts is it's going to be sloppy in a mess so every year,
the South district, they have a team up to clean up.
2416
03:40:18.690 --> 03:40:28.890
Eric Harris: And that is going to happen on April 25 from 9am till noon
it's going to be at the faith Academy, which is on cross park.
2417
03:40:30.030 --> 03:40:43.530
Eric Harris: Is next to the bro eighth street neuro i'm all ages, I
welcome i'm just make sure you know, if you bring a kid that they at
least four years old and I need an adult with them, obviously, because we
don't you know i'm.
2418
03:40:44.490 --> 03:40:51.750
Eric Harris: And everybody knows angie everybody knows about the south
district, if you want, if you want more information just give the south
district a holler.
2419
03:40:53.220 --> 03:40:57.780
Eric Harris: I think that's something positive that we can know that some
things that we need to start focusing on since we.
2420
03:40:58.170 --> 03:41:08.160
Eric Harris: You know, get over a couple speed bumps that we had to go
through and it'll teach people to take care of that neighborhood is the
south district is a neighborhood that you know, wants to snow melts
you're going to see.
2421
03:41:09.360 --> 03:41:12.420
Eric Harris: Beer bottles and all type of stuff in the neighborhood and
so.
2422
03:41:13.590 --> 03:41:19.920
Eric Harris: If people want more more information just just either
contact me or contact Angela with that are you.
2423
03:41:20.430 --> 03:41:21.690
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Can you repeat.
2424
03:41:22.740 --> 03:41:26.340
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Can you repeat the cleanup time and
date, one more time.
2425
03:41:27.270 --> 03:41:31.290
Eric Harris: It is Sunday April, the 25th 9am until know.
2426
03:41:32.580 --> 03:41:36.600
Eric Harris: It is at 1030 cross park that's next to the broadway street
mural.
2427
03:41:37.800 --> 03:41:44.880
Eric Harris: And the best place to park over that is in that paperwork
closet perfect Thank you.
2428
03:41:50.310 --> 03:41:53.040
Mohamed Traore: Mr Ali if you'd like to go ahead yeah.
2429
03:41:53.760 --> 03:42:00.630
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): So this is actually i'm going to kind of
piggyback off of what Eric said about the things going on in the south
district neighborhood.
2430
03:42:01.080 --> 03:42:19.920
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): And I know that Commissioner porter and
Commissioner Harris are probably already aware of this, but you know, I
just want to put this in the ears of not only Commissioner tree or a but
also our facilitator Jesse caves on.
2431
03:42:21.030 --> 03:42:22.050
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): The.
2432
03:42:23.100 --> 03:42:31.620
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): The gas station that is in the south
district, the casey's does have an armed guard.
2433
03:42:32.220 --> 03:42:40.140
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): officer they hire outside of the company
it's like an arm someone who's there, and he has a gun.
2434
03:42:40.560 --> 03:42:50.010
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): And he's sitting at that casey's general
store that's right there on the South district right in front of broadway
across from subway um.
2435
03:42:50.820 --> 03:43:00.930
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): You know that makes me feel really
uneasy that's probably not only the gas station that my parents probably
visit most frequently as i've lived on the South district my entire life.
2436
03:43:01.740 --> 03:43:19.770
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): But you know, Mohammed, a lot of your co
workers, probably drive to that casey's because I know i've seen a ton of
Amazon drivers in that casey's around the nighttime getting their gas for
the night, so that they can be ready to go the next morning.
2437
03:43:21.060 --> 03:43:27.000
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I don't like the idea of having an armed
guard there I don't think that that's necessary.
2438
03:43:28.050 --> 03:43:31.770
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): To my knowledge there's not a lot that
warrants having.
2439
03:43:33.390 --> 03:43:44.160
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Some security guard with a frickin gun
at like the casey's general store that's right there, so I just want that
to be like on everyone's.
2440
03:43:45.780 --> 03:43:58.350
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Mind just thinking about that I don't
really know what there is that we can do about that specific guard or how
we can reach out to casey's i'm going to do more research on it, but I
don't like that idea.
2441
03:43:58.830 --> 03:44:18.030
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): um it doesn't make me feel safer living
in that area or doesn't make my parents feel safer it's actually really
terrifying because a lot of kids use that casey's to just like use their
you know money to get candy and stuff so i'm I feel really bad.
2442
03:44:19.800 --> 03:44:23.940
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Knowing that that's going on in that
case is general store on that side of town and.
2443
03:44:24.990 --> 03:44:35.520
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I know that it is specific to that
casey's because i've been to other cases around the area at different
times and they don't have an armed guard that.
2444
03:44:35.910 --> 03:44:47.160
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): stands in there, you know the casey's
that's over in coral ville on birds doesn't have an armed guards, so I
think that this is something that specifically you know the police.
2445
03:44:47.460 --> 03:44:51.450
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): The police thing committee could look
at, but just all of us to just think about how.
2446
03:44:52.110 --> 03:44:59.970
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Maybe some of these neighborhoods that
we maybe would not face it would not ever like walk around or anything
how they're being policed and how those.
2447
03:45:00.420 --> 03:45:15.780
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): The people in those communities are
being watched because that goes along with you know this this awful
history of just being watched and having like them and on your back and
stuff like that, and I just think that this.
2448
03:45:16.320 --> 03:45:31.500
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Specific you know person at caseys who
has this like feels like he needs a gun out this specific cases, rather
than like none of the other ones around here, it just makes me so mad.
2449
03:45:32.580 --> 03:45:36.630
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): And yeah I think that that's something
that we need to be thinking about and.
2450
03:45:36.990 --> 03:45:47.100
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): You know, demanding that high be figure
something out because high V has those contracts high visa and des moines
ivy's in cedar rapids he is an iowa city, we got to like.
2451
03:45:47.370 --> 03:46:06.300
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Tell these communities, and I know,
maybe Jesse might have more experience and talking to like a CEO or the
CFO or whatever of high V, but, like you, I don't like the idea of these
companies working together and then like they're hiring bards that have
lethal force in.
2452
03:46:07.500 --> 03:46:11.040
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): On some of their locations, but not all
of them, but just some.
2453
03:46:11.220 --> 03:46:16.890
Jesse Case: may want to just as a fact finding mission, which is also or
the mission here.
2454
03:46:17.940 --> 03:46:28.380
Jesse Case: You can put together a delegation, then you know approach
cases and ask them what's going on, or how you know you may get you do
what you want, but it's.
2455
03:46:30.600 --> 03:46:34.890
Jesse Case: Just I know angie Jordan is not as knowledgeable about this.
2456
03:46:36.960 --> 03:46:37.200
Jesse Case: But.
2457
03:46:38.730 --> 03:46:42.720
Jesse Case: They wanted somebody who should ask them why.
2458
03:46:43.260 --> 03:46:53.580
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): yeah, of course, and I can reach out to
you outside of this meeting and figure out, who I may be need to ask why
is this happening at this specific location, but I think that we should
be.
2459
03:46:54.180 --> 03:47:06.750
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): concerned that one specific cases is
getting targeted by like where it is rather than all of the other cases
in iowa city and horrible surrounding areas, why is it that casey's.
2460
03:47:08.010 --> 03:47:08.430
Mohamed Traore: Very.
2461
03:47:08.580 --> 03:47:09.000
Yes.
2462
03:47:10.200 --> 03:47:20.880
Eric Harris: Yes, so the south, so the south district on the South
district has been engaged with this full wow we want and also does he
does not only have a.
2463
03:47:21.150 --> 03:47:22.560
Eric Harris: gun, he has a dog.
2464
03:47:23.610 --> 03:47:24.390
Mohamed Traore: The dog is.
2465
03:47:24.690 --> 03:47:27.900
Mohamed Traore: Michelle wie I just want to remind you that you can
engage with one another.
2466
03:47:28.200 --> 03:47:31.890
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): yeah sorry, Commissioner Harris will
talk about this outside of.
2467
03:47:33.300 --> 03:47:34.350
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Their yeah I just want.
2468
03:47:35.100 --> 03:47:40.230
Eric Harris: To piggyback on, I just want to make sure she has the whole
thing because they also have a dog that just a gun.
2469
03:47:40.740 --> 03:47:47.070
Eric Harris: And, just like she said, is that's the only cases that I
know of that has that they're also.
2470
03:47:47.610 --> 03:47:57.780
Eric Harris: we're going to approach i'm just going to start getting warm
again and last summit in the south district, and this will be one of the
first things that I want to talk about when we do.
2471
03:47:58.290 --> 03:48:11.550
Eric Harris: Our subcommittee things is the gun violence that's in the
south district, and not only the gun violence, but the response by law
enforcement, the aggressive responses to the gun violence, so is
aggressive response.
2472
03:48:12.810 --> 03:48:22.650
Eric Harris: With gun violence and it's also a dog and a cop at their
cases all in about two square block area and Oh, this has been.
2473
03:48:22.920 --> 03:48:26.010
Eric Harris: just been an issue that they've been dealing with for years
so.
2474
03:48:26.370 --> 03:48:36.720
Eleanor Dilkes: i'm going to interrupt you, this is a good, this is kind
of a good I hate to be a wet blanket, but this is what happens when at
staff and Eric Commission announcements you start talking.
2475
03:48:37.950 --> 03:48:48.360
Eleanor Dilkes: It becomes a subject of discussion that hasn't been
noticed to the public and that's a problem so and then then if if we step
in and say you can't do that anymore than some.
2476
03:48:48.360 --> 03:48:48.870
Commissioners.
2477
03:48:49.920 --> 03:48:52.050
Eleanor Dilkes: and allowed to talk and others can't so.
2478
03:48:52.920 --> 03:48:53.280
Eleanor Dilkes: you're really.
2479
03:48:53.940 --> 03:48:54.690
Eleanor Dilkes: stick to them.
2480
03:48:56.160 --> 03:48:56.490
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Where.
2481
03:48:57.000 --> 03:48:59.340
Jesse Case: To put it on the agenda for future meeting.
2482
03:48:59.580 --> 03:49:01.830
Eric Harris: yeah like I do some more research.
2483
03:49:01.890 --> 03:49:05.370
Eric Harris: and get put on the agenda and that's that seems like the
right thing to do.
2484
03:49:05.970 --> 03:49:09.030
Jesse Case: Maybe have somebody from the neighborhood association come
and speak.
2485
03:49:10.440 --> 03:49:10.890
Jesse Case: To us.
2486
03:49:11.880 --> 03:49:14.580
Eric Harris: yeah meet me or angie so you know.
2487
03:49:14.670 --> 03:49:14.880
hey.
2488
03:49:16.500 --> 03:49:18.240
Mohamed Traore: Mr case that be.
2489
03:49:21.240 --> 03:49:28.080
Jesse Case: For the next agenda guide I don't know how many items you put
on the next two genders at some future gender the next agenda.
2490
03:49:31.110 --> 03:49:37.560
Mohamed Traore: We do have a policing Subcommittee, we are creating so we
could that we could also look at adding it to the agenda.
2491
03:49:37.680 --> 03:49:42.990
Eric Harris: And where does have to have more discussions about it and
see what we want to add on the agenda so i'll get with on.
2492
03:49:45.030 --> 03:49:52.470
Eric Harris: A meal and Mohammed in the next couple of days, and we have
more discussions outside of this meeting, and then with make a decision.
2493
03:49:52.890 --> 03:49:58.920
Jesse Case: Maybe a presentation on it, the next meeting, and then you
can talk about action actions going forward.
2494
03:49:59.400 --> 03:50:03.150
Mohamed Traore: yeah do we have any other members of the Commission that
have any other announcements.
2495
03:50:06.420 --> 03:50:07.020
Mohamed Traore: i'm.
2496
03:50:07.110 --> 03:50:09.270
Mohamed Traore: holy continue on a staff announcements.
2497
03:50:09.330 --> 03:50:14.160
Mohamed Traore: I would just like to thank everyone again for
participating I know this meeting has been very long but.
2498
03:50:15.180 --> 03:50:21.090
Mohamed Traore: In the future, with the Faculty not facilitator, we will
be working very, very hard to make sure that we kind of.
2499
03:50:22.020 --> 03:50:32.940
Mohamed Traore: bring these meetings down to like just more subject based
so that people are more aware of what's going on and it's not really
jumping from subject to subject and, now that we also have.
2500
03:50:33.360 --> 03:50:40.440
Mohamed Traore: subcommittee thing that we're doing it, it seems like
that should help a lot as well, and also want to thank everyone for
bearing with us through.
2501
03:50:41.010 --> 03:50:48.690
Mohamed Traore: The tougher aspect of the meeting, a little earlier and I
just want to apologize if anyone felt offended by what had occurred.
2502
03:50:49.140 --> 03:50:58.950
Mohamed Traore: And I want to apologize if anyone's feelings have been
hurt by what is gone on as well, that was not my intention, and I hope
that wasn't the attention of anyone else on this Commission.
2503
03:50:59.460 --> 03:51:12.930
Mohamed Traore: At the end of the day we just want everyone to feel like
they're truly being heard and public feel like they're being respected
and I just want to say to you, Commission reporter that I hold no ill
will or anything like that against you.
2504
03:51:14.400 --> 03:51:28.020
Mohamed Traore: At the end of the day, like the way I was raised is that
everyone you meet is like an extension to family to you and I still see
you as basically a mother to me, and everyone on this dimension as family
and everyone in this town is family as well.
2505
03:51:28.470 --> 03:51:30.300
Mohamed Traore: And also like to say.
2506
03:51:30.540 --> 03:51:47.400
Mohamed Traore: directly to Commissioner harrington that no, it will
against you either, and I believe that you are a great leader in this
Community and ensure wise beyond your years and as you're very smart and
you can do anything in this life that you ever want to and.
2507
03:51:48.720 --> 03:51:57.030
Mohamed Traore: also want to just make sure that everyone on this
Commission knows that going forward if you don't feel like you're being
heard, please say so and.
2508
03:51:57.480 --> 03:52:04.770
Mohamed Traore: I will try to do everything I can as well, to make sure
that you do feel hurt, because at the end of the day that having a title
chair vice chair.
2509
03:52:05.250 --> 03:52:13.020
Mohamed Traore: means nothing because I can't supersede your vote it's a
democracy democratic process there's nine of us.
2510
03:52:13.710 --> 03:52:20.310
Mohamed Traore: These votes have to go by the way of the majority, my
vote means no more than yours my opinions me no more than yours so.
2511
03:52:20.730 --> 03:52:25.560
Mohamed Traore: let's just be sure to respect each other and respect the
public and make sure that we do everything we can to.
2512
03:52:25.890 --> 03:52:39.120
Mohamed Traore: walk away in June 2022 if that's when we end this
Commission and give the best set of recommendations for everyone, we can,
and thank you for listening, I feel, and is that if we have nothing else
i'd like.
2513
03:52:39.120 --> 03:52:39.360
To.
2514
03:52:41.130 --> 03:52:54.930
Jesse Case: Be want to meet again in two weeks or do you need more time
because you're having for Commission or subcommittee meetings is that is
that all doable in that time period period and I don't know how the group
decided to meet your schedule, but i'm just throwing that out there
because.
2515
03:52:56.070 --> 03:53:13.770
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): there's a possible So for me, I know who
is in my committees that i'm going to be working with so for the Budget
Committee, I can start a chat between Mohammed how mad Rivera and I the
policing Committee, I can start a chat The thing is just.
2516
03:53:15.510 --> 03:53:21.450
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Someone within porter current and
Harris, will have to start a chat between the housing.
2517
03:53:22.890 --> 03:53:28.440
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): And then I can start a chat between the
education policing and budget.
2518
03:53:28.920 --> 03:53:46.920
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): All of those have for less Commission
members, so we can decide a time, I would say, probably, it would be the
best interest of all of these separate committees to meet at least one
time before the next meeting into Thursdays so.
2519
03:53:48.270 --> 03:53:51.060
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): We can discuss that privately right.
2520
03:53:53.130 --> 03:53:59.880
Commissioner Tony Currin: Are we on time, as I understand that we're
still going to keep our regular meeting schedule, when I can expand it
out.
2521
03:54:01.230 --> 03:54:14.310
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Unless last year and a committee so
let's say Tony we're in the education committee together if we decide
that next Wednesday we want to meet it's your obligation to make it to
that meeting, but that's not a part.
2522
03:54:14.340 --> 03:54:15.360
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): of coal and.
2523
03:54:15.510 --> 03:54:17.160
Mohamed Traore: You want to make sure we all continue with the.
2524
03:54:17.430 --> 03:54:20.820
Mohamed Traore: Just the discussion at this time as this isn't on the
agenda.
2525
03:54:21.120 --> 03:54:22.320
Mohamed Traore: But let's just make sure that.
2526
03:54:22.680 --> 03:54:33.750
Mohamed Traore: We get an email chain going on just send your email
directly to this Bowers and we can just make sure to clear things up that
way yeah one also make sure respect everyone's time that has come in and.
2527
03:54:36.150 --> 03:54:49.830
Royceann Porter: um I think this, this is the last thing I think Tony was
talking about from us going from at the very beginning, we discussed two
weeks to get started, and then going into once a month, so will we stay.
2528
03:54:51.840 --> 03:54:53.160
Royceann Porter: On the two week course.
2529
03:54:56.370 --> 03:55:00.180
Mohamed Traore: um does anyone on the Commission have any objections to.
2530
03:55:01.050 --> 03:55:04.140
Royceann Porter: it on the agenda, put it on them for the next agenda
item that we have.
2531
03:55:04.980 --> 03:55:05.640
Royceann Porter: Tonight all right.
2532
03:55:05.820 --> 03:55:06.060
Mohamed Traore: yeah.
2533
03:55:06.450 --> 03:55:08.040
Mohamed Traore: let's be sure to do that, the next meeting.
2534
03:55:08.610 --> 03:55:15.840
Eleanor Dilkes: But let me just tell you, though, and we do whatever you
want tonight, but you can talk about scheduling whatever you want to.
2535
03:55:16.500 --> 03:55:26.010
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I think I think honestly I think after
we get that budget in I think that's where most of our like then maybe we
can shoot to me for.
2536
03:55:26.820 --> 03:55:39.570
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): once a month that's where I feel like
the issue comes in, is like we just got to get this budget everyone's and
I feel like everyone's opinion is so important in this like especially
like you know quarter, I have no idea.
2537
03:55:39.900 --> 03:55:45.780
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): about how like housing looks like here,
and I know that we're supposed to get some big.
2538
03:55:45.990 --> 03:55:57.120
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): $20 million grant but, like, I have no
idea what that looks like who qualifies for that who gets that whatever,
so I think that we should still meet bi weekly because there are parts of
this that.
2539
03:55:57.300 --> 03:56:04.860
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): You know i'm i'm not really sure about,
especially as it pertains to like getting all this code relief and stuff
like that so.
2540
03:56:07.110 --> 03:56:27.120
Eric Harris: um yeah i'm going to be discussing some about scheduling
issue that I have like wow i'm because I know that if we meet again in
two weeks, I might be at work yeah so we can talk about that a different
time we got a couple weeks, but oh yeah.
2541
03:56:28.860 --> 03:56:33.330
Mohamed Traore: let's just make sure that we try to get that part settled
within the next week.
2542
03:56:33.720 --> 03:56:37.770
Mohamed Traore: In case we end this meeting to another day, so we can
inform the public.
2543
03:56:38.400 --> 03:56:38.640
yeah.
2544
03:56:40.920 --> 03:56:45.750
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Now we got Commission or after
Convention announcements has ever been done, making an announcement staff
and.
2545
03:56:47.430 --> 03:56:48.690
Stefanie Bowers: I have nothing, thank you.
2546
03:56:50.460 --> 03:56:53.280
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): hey okay wait wait wait wait, I have one
more, I have one more I want more.
2547
03:56:54.030 --> 03:57:08.880
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): Of the University of iowa police
department is looking at a plan currently um as far as and running, you
can maybe help me out because I know that I have far has been more
involved in this, and I have just because.
2548
03:57:09.480 --> 03:57:19.890
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): My friend is running like the study and
stuff but they have three different approaches, as it pertains to how
they want to run the University of iowa police department.
2549
03:57:20.250 --> 03:57:39.210
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): and the one that I agree with and I love
the most is the holistic approach which takes the money from the police
department and puts it at invest it into other entities that would help
students and I can I will send that to stephanie and maybe remain will be
able to.
2550
03:57:40.020 --> 03:57:40.890
Raneem Hamad: talk a little bit.
2551
03:57:41.430 --> 03:57:43.770
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): You can tell me more information about
it.
2552
03:57:44.790 --> 03:57:45.750
Raneem Hamad: So um.
2553
03:57:45.810 --> 03:57:56.670
Eleanor Dilkes: there's a wait hold on a minute, this is what we just
talked about you, if you want to talk about the University of iowa police
department or plan then put it on your next agenda but it's.
2554
03:57:56.670 --> 03:57:58.290
Raneem Hamad: Not just.
2555
03:57:58.830 --> 03:58:02.610
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): An announcement emission announcement
it's an open actual like.
2556
03:58:03.960 --> 03:58:05.610
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): You can go into and suggest.
2557
03:58:05.640 --> 03:58:08.250
Raneem Hamad: Like boat folks make the announcement real quick.
2558
03:58:08.370 --> 03:58:16.350
Raneem Hamad: um, so there is a survey there they're finally allowing
Community feedback for the reimagining campus safety.
2559
03:58:17.700 --> 03:58:21.210
Raneem Hamad: project that the University of iowa has been doing and.
2560
03:58:22.200 --> 03:58:31.230
Raneem Hamad: We if you want to find out more information about the
holistic model I have far has been doing a series of instagram posts
describing different models.
2561
03:58:31.560 --> 03:58:40.980
Raneem Hamad: That are there and describing why the holistic model is the
most beneficial for our Community and most actually going to work towards
a more just.
2562
03:58:41.730 --> 03:58:46.590
Raneem Hamad: and safer system for our Community, especially with respect
to the fact that the ui PD.
2563
03:58:47.520 --> 03:58:54.060
Raneem Hamad: Almost the majority of their arrests are to iowa city
residents and not even University of iowa students.
2564
03:58:54.600 --> 03:59:10.680
Raneem Hamad: So we really hope, I really hope that a lot of people can
go on this Community survey response survey and show their support for
the holistic safety model but yeah there's more information on I far as
instagram page that you can have, with all the details.
2565
03:59:16.560 --> 03:59:20.430
Mohamed Traore: But no one has anything else, and I get a motion to
adjourn in a second.
2566
03:59:24.000 --> 03:59:25.740
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): This question are very much in
Twitter.
2567
03:59:28.110 --> 03:59:30.060
Commissioner Ali (she/her/hers): I would like to second Commissioner Ali.
2568
03:59:35.340 --> 03:59:37.410
Mohamed Traore: This is ours, can you please get a roll call vote.
2569
03:59:38.580 --> 03:59:39.690
Stefanie Bowers: conditioner alley.
2570
03:59:43.800 --> 03:59:44.370
T'Shailyn Harrington: yeah yes.
2571
03:59:46.470 --> 03:59:47.340
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner current.
2572
03:59:48.210 --> 03:59:49.020
Yes.
2573
03:59:50.520 --> 03:59:51.390
pensioner harrington.
2574
03:59:52.860 --> 03:59:53.250
T'Shailyn Harrington: yep.
2575
03:59:54.510 --> 03:59:55.890
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner Navarro Jackson.
2576
03:59:56.760 --> 03:59:57.270
Yes.
2577
03:59:58.410 --> 03:59:59.850
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner porter.
2578
04:00:00.660 --> 04:00:02.490
Stefanie Bowers: Yes, Commissioner Ahmad.
2579
04:00:03.240 --> 04:00:05.340
Stefanie Bowers: Yes, sure Harris.
2580
04:00:06.570 --> 04:00:07.500
Stefanie Bowers: Harris okay.
2581
04:00:07.710 --> 04:00:08.610
Stefanie Bowers: Commissioner and Eric.
2582
04:00:09.630 --> 04:00:10.380
Commissioner Rivera (he|she|they): Yes.
2583
04:00:10.560 --> 04:00:11.550
Stefanie Bowers: And chair Troy.
2584
04:00:13.230 --> 04:00:13.740
Mohamed Traore: Yes.
2585
04:00:14.190 --> 04:00:14.670
Stefanie Bowers: Thank you.
2586
04:00:15.900 --> 04:00:18.600
Mohamed Traore: And was that we're doing Thank you everyone.